PART 3 - Core i5 3570k vs FX-8350 Gaming Windows 8 vs Windows 7 Linus Tech Tips
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·2013-05-07
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another examination of the 3570k versus
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the fx8350 Intel versus AMD with a
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different spin on it we're going to be looking at Windows 7 and Windows 8
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performance and showing you not only which is the best hardware platform for
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your gaming today but also which is the best soft software platform with a
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variety of games so I'd like to introduce you to our two test platforms
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first of all we've got the Crosshair 5 formula with an fx8350 at 4.6 GHz and 8
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gigs of Blackline mushkin memory 1600 MHz nothing special about it cl9 memory
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I know it looks special but that Copperhead spreader is just for looks
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then our other bench is a 3570k at 4.2
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GHz a Maximus 5 formula 8 gigs of that
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same memory for consistency and we're running a 660 Ti overclocked in both of
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the systems so we've got a Windows 8 and Windows 7 SSD and then we're running on
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an ax850 with an h100 for our cooling
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now the reason we went with those overclocks on the CPUs is that they are
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overclocked but conservatively anyone with these chips should be able to
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attain these overclocks we've also overclocked them proportionally close to
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their maximums typically people are getting anywhere from 4.8 to 4.9 on an
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8350 and anywhere from around 4.4 to 4.5
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on a 3570k so the real question here is why are we testing this and the reason
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for it is that you guys asked us to you asked us to do an in-depth examination
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of the 3570k versus the 8350 and we want
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to look at it from every angle possible so we're we've got a baby touching the
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mic can you let go of that sir all right so we're going to be looking at it with
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antialiasing without anti-aliasing on Windows 8 on Windows 7 we're also going
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to be looking at some different scenarios like running higher speed memory on both platforms to see how that
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affects it so guys stay tuned make sure
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you're subscribed so that you're going to see all of our coverage of this
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another thing that I'd like to bring up on this one is the cost difference
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between these chips this was brought up on the last video they don't cost
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exactly the same especially when you factor in the different costs of the
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platforms so we ran a quick cost analysis here showing you guys that the
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platforms are not really quite equal so
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the 3570k is around 220 to 240 bucks and
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the 8350 is around 200 to 220 bucks depending where you're shopping so
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there's already about a $20 difference um however we always factor in
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overclocking because we believe we've done enough guides on overclocking that
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any Enthusiast should be doing it but you cannot overclock an Intel platform
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unless you have an overclocking friendly chipset like a z68 or z77 chipset
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however on AMD you can buy a cheapo 970 board and you can overclock your chip so
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our cheapest z77 board is 120 bucks that
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we found whereas our cheapest not even quite the cheapest but the cheapest one
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I'd be confident putting an 8 core on was around 80 bucks so there is
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potentially up to a $60 difference in the prices between these platforms but
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you might say you don't like to see us compare uh you know non-equal chipset
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tiers but even if you take boards that we would consider pretty equivalent like
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the Crosshair 5 formula and the Maximus 5 formula there's a $50 difference in
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price between these boards now arguably the Intel board does have more bells and
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whistles so it has lighting effects on it and it
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has you know more onboard buttons and
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doodads and better onboard sound yes it does have things the AMD board doesn't
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but these are similar class of products
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and so you're looking at as much as a $70 difference then between the two
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platforms so bear that in mind as you look at the performance results that
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we're about to present in our first game Far Cry 3 which you can check out our
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benchmarking procedure for by clicking the link below we saw a significant
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performance improve Improvement going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 it was a
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little less than 10% but it was reproducible and it was anywhere from
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about 5 to 8% for both platforms we didn't really see any changes in the
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positioning with the I mean with both of them being within margin of error we'd
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say this is a tie between the 8350 and the 3570k in terms of performance
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remembering the 8350 platform could be cheaper with Crisis 3 we saw something
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really cool in Windows 7 when slick
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fires the explosive Arrow at the turret we've seen this time and time again on
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the AMD platform the FPS dips to around
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20 frames per second with whatever optimizations Microsoft has made in
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terms of leveraging more cores better in Windows 8 we don't see it anymore both
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platforms dip to a minimum of around 30 FPS at that particular segment although
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they don't on average actually perform any better on Windows 8 than Windows 7
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so what that means to me is although minimums have smoothed out on both
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platforms just more uh noticeably on the AMD one the averages are not really any
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higher which means maximums are down a little bit that does deliver a better
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gaming experience though lower averages with higher minimums is better than huge
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averages with low dips our next game is Battlefield 3 and in this one we really
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just didn't see much change in terms of averages but both platforms improved in
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terms of their minimum frames per second so the 8350 went from 35 to 43 and the
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3570k went all the way from 37 to 51 FPS
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delivering a much smoother gaming experience moving from Windows 7 to
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Windows 8 in Skyrim Intel maintains its
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dominance however it should be noted that our Skyrim install has 18 mods from
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the workshop so we're not really 100% sure how those affect the performance on
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individual chips but we just kind of added mods until the game looked great
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and went with it so For Better or For Worse that's what we do in that game the
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Intel chip did see about a 20% uplift in
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minimum FPS resulting in better overall performance even so even compared to
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Windows 7 so Windows 8 once again wins as the gaming platform here Dirt 3 is a
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bit of a different story where the 3570k drops in performance both in terms of
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minimums and in terms of averages in Windows 7 it was a clear win for the
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3570k whereas in Windows 8 the 3570k is
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about a dead tie however it should be noted that when you're running at 150
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plus frames per second unless you're running some kind of Space Age LCD
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monitor that does 240 frames per second then you're probably not going to notice
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so there you go guys in Witcher 2 we didn't see much in the way of um strange
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Behavior but we did see improvements again going from Windows 7 to Windows 8
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so the 8350 particularly went from 51 minimum to 59 minimum although the
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averages didn't change much so we're seeing another one of those situations
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where minimums improve averages don't really improve much which gives you
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smoother overall gameplay whereas the 3570k only improved about 5% um and
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we're going to call this one pretty much a tile though the 3570k does Edge out
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the 8350 in Metro 2033 we see another
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huge Improvement for the 8350 with the 3570k holding steady so it was about a
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10% Improvement in minimum frames per second which drove up the average
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delivering a smoother gameplay experience than Windows 7 and bringing
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it actually slightly ahead of the 3570k although it should be noted that this is
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within the margin of error for our tests in crisis 2 we saw pretty much no change
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across the board which makes sense because this is a much older title and
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we shouldn't be seeing too many new optimizations that are implemented for
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it so guys while we showed you all the performance numbers here there are some
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things that you didn't see so Windows 8 looks like the stronger platform in
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terms of gaming performance but we did have to jump through some hoops to get
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some of the games working at all so for example there were games that wouldn't
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work until you installed games for Windows Live uninstalled the game having
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already tried to install it once and then completely reinstalled the game the
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other thing that you don't see is that while the performance of the 8350 and
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the 3570k is quite similar there's that price difference I talked about before
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and also the fact that the 8350 does run hotter so if your room is above say for
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example a garage and it's not air conditioned and it gets hot in the
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summer and you're on the south side of the house then heat output May matter to
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you and it does consume more power so this comes down to the individual user
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whether that's important to you or not so it's that cost performance and other
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intangibles tradeoff thanks for checking out this video on lineus Tech tips and
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