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another examination of the 3570k versus

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the fx8350 Intel versus AMD with a

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different spin on it we're going to be looking at Windows 7 and Windows 8

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performance and showing you not only which is the best hardware platform for

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your gaming today but also which is the best soft software platform with a

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variety of games so I'd like to introduce you to our two test platforms

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first of all we've got the Crosshair 5 formula with an fx8350 at 4.6 GHz and 8

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gigs of Blackline mushkin memory 1600 MHz nothing special about it cl9 memory

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I know it looks special but that Copperhead spreader is just for looks

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then our other bench is a 3570k at 4.2

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GHz a Maximus 5 formula 8 gigs of that

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same memory for consistency and we're running a 660 Ti overclocked in both of

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the systems so we've got a Windows 8 and Windows 7 SSD and then we're running on

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an ax850 with an h100 for our cooling

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now the reason we went with those overclocks on the CPUs is that they are

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overclocked but conservatively anyone with these chips should be able to

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attain these overclocks we've also overclocked them proportionally close to

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their maximums typically people are getting anywhere from 4.8 to 4.9 on an

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8350 and anywhere from around 4.4 to 4.5

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on a 3570k so the real question here is why are we testing this and the reason

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for it is that you guys asked us to you asked us to do an in-depth examination

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of the 3570k versus the 8350 and we want

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to look at it from every angle possible so we're we've got a baby touching the

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mic can you let go of that sir all right so we're going to be looking at it with

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antialiasing without anti-aliasing on Windows 8 on Windows 7 we're also going

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to be looking at some different scenarios like running higher speed memory on both platforms to see how that

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affects it so guys stay tuned make sure

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you're subscribed so that you're going to see all of our coverage of this

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another thing that I'd like to bring up on this one is the cost difference

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between these chips this was brought up on the last video they don't cost

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exactly the same especially when you factor in the different costs of the

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platforms so we ran a quick cost analysis here showing you guys that the

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platforms are not really quite equal so

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the 3570k is around 220 to 240 bucks and

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the 8350 is around 200 to 220 bucks depending where you're shopping so

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there's already about a $20 difference um however we always factor in

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overclocking because we believe we've done enough guides on overclocking that

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any Enthusiast should be doing it but you cannot overclock an Intel platform

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unless you have an overclocking friendly chipset like a z68 or z77 chipset

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however on AMD you can buy a cheapo 970 board and you can overclock your chip so

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our cheapest z77 board is 120 bucks that

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we found whereas our cheapest not even quite the cheapest but the cheapest one

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I'd be confident putting an 8 core on was around 80 bucks so there is

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potentially up to a $60 difference in the prices between these platforms but

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you might say you don't like to see us compare uh you know non-equal chipset

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tiers but even if you take boards that we would consider pretty equivalent like

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the Crosshair 5 formula and the Maximus 5 formula there's a $50 difference in

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price between these boards now arguably the Intel board does have more bells and

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whistles so it has lighting effects on it and it

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has you know more onboard buttons and

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doodads and better onboard sound yes it does have things the AMD board doesn't

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but these are similar class of products

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and so you're looking at as much as a $70 difference then between the two

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platforms so bear that in mind as you look at the performance results that

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we're about to present in our first game Far Cry 3 which you can check out our

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benchmarking procedure for by clicking the link below we saw a significant

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performance improve Improvement going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 it was a

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little less than 10% but it was reproducible and it was anywhere from

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about 5 to 8% for both platforms we didn't really see any changes in the

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positioning with the I mean with both of them being within margin of error we'd

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say this is a tie between the 8350 and the 3570k in terms of performance

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remembering the 8350 platform could be cheaper with Crisis 3 we saw something

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really cool in Windows 7 when slick

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fires the explosive Arrow at the turret we've seen this time and time again on

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the AMD platform the FPS dips to around

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20 frames per second with whatever optimizations Microsoft has made in

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terms of leveraging more cores better in Windows 8 we don't see it anymore both

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platforms dip to a minimum of around 30 FPS at that particular segment although

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they don't on average actually perform any better on Windows 8 than Windows 7

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so what that means to me is although minimums have smoothed out on both

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platforms just more uh noticeably on the AMD one the averages are not really any

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higher which means maximums are down a little bit that does deliver a better

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gaming experience though lower averages with higher minimums is better than huge

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averages with low dips our next game is Battlefield 3 and in this one we really

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just didn't see much change in terms of averages but both platforms improved in

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terms of their minimum frames per second so the 8350 went from 35 to 43 and the

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3570k went all the way from 37 to 51 FPS

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delivering a much smoother gaming experience moving from Windows 7 to

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Windows 8 in Skyrim Intel maintains its

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dominance however it should be noted that our Skyrim install has 18 mods from

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the workshop so we're not really 100% sure how those affect the performance on

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individual chips but we just kind of added mods until the game looked great

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and went with it so For Better or For Worse that's what we do in that game the

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Intel chip did see about a 20% uplift in

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minimum FPS resulting in better overall performance even so even compared to

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Windows 7 so Windows 8 once again wins as the gaming platform here Dirt 3 is a

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bit of a different story where the 3570k drops in performance both in terms of

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minimums and in terms of averages in Windows 7 it was a clear win for the

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3570k whereas in Windows 8 the 3570k is

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about a dead tie however it should be noted that when you're running at 150

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plus frames per second unless you're running some kind of Space Age LCD

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monitor that does 240 frames per second then you're probably not going to notice

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so there you go guys in Witcher 2 we didn't see much in the way of um strange

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Behavior but we did see improvements again going from Windows 7 to Windows 8

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so the 8350 particularly went from 51 minimum to 59 minimum although the

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averages didn't change much so we're seeing another one of those situations

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where minimums improve averages don't really improve much which gives you

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smoother overall gameplay whereas the 3570k only improved about 5% um and

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we're going to call this one pretty much a tile though the 3570k does Edge out

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the 8350 in Metro 2033 we see another

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huge Improvement for the 8350 with the 3570k holding steady so it was about a

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10% Improvement in minimum frames per second which drove up the average

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delivering a smoother gameplay experience than Windows 7 and bringing

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it actually slightly ahead of the 3570k although it should be noted that this is

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within the margin of error for our tests in crisis 2 we saw pretty much no change

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across the board which makes sense because this is a much older title and

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we shouldn't be seeing too many new optimizations that are implemented for

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it so guys while we showed you all the performance numbers here there are some

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things that you didn't see so Windows 8 looks like the stronger platform in

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terms of gaming performance but we did have to jump through some hoops to get

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some of the games working at all so for example there were games that wouldn't

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work until you installed games for Windows Live uninstalled the game having

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already tried to install it once and then completely reinstalled the game the

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other thing that you don't see is that while the performance of the 8350 and

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the 3570k is quite similar there's that price difference I talked about before

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and also the fact that the 8350 does run hotter so if your room is above say for

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example a garage and it's not air conditioned and it gets hot in the

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summer and you're on the south side of the house then heat output May matter to

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you and it does consume more power so this comes down to the individual user

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whether that's important to you or not so it's that cost performance and other

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intangibles tradeoff thanks for checking out this video on lineus Tech tips and

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