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another examination of the 3570k versus
the fx8350 Intel versus AMD with a
different spin on it we're going to be looking at Windows 7 and Windows 8
performance and showing you not only which is the best hardware platform for
your gaming today but also which is the best soft software platform with a
variety of games so I'd like to introduce you to our two test platforms
first of all we've got the Crosshair 5 formula with an fx8350 at 4.6 GHz and 8
gigs of Blackline mushkin memory 1600 MHz nothing special about it cl9 memory
I know it looks special but that Copperhead spreader is just for looks
then our other bench is a 3570k at 4.2
GHz a Maximus 5 formula 8 gigs of that
same memory for consistency and we're running a 660 Ti overclocked in both of
the systems so we've got a Windows 8 and Windows 7 SSD and then we're running on
an ax850 with an h100 for our cooling
now the reason we went with those overclocks on the CPUs is that they are
overclocked but conservatively anyone with these chips should be able to
attain these overclocks we've also overclocked them proportionally close to
their maximums typically people are getting anywhere from 4.8 to 4.9 on an
8350 and anywhere from around 4.4 to 4.5
on a 3570k so the real question here is why are we testing this and the reason
for it is that you guys asked us to you asked us to do an in-depth examination
of the 3570k versus the 8350 and we want
to look at it from every angle possible so we're we've got a baby touching the
mic can you let go of that sir all right so we're going to be looking at it with
antialiasing without anti-aliasing on Windows 8 on Windows 7 we're also going
to be looking at some different scenarios like running higher speed memory on both platforms to see how that
affects it so guys stay tuned make sure
you're subscribed so that you're going to see all of our coverage of this
another thing that I'd like to bring up on this one is the cost difference
between these chips this was brought up on the last video they don't cost
exactly the same especially when you factor in the different costs of the
platforms so we ran a quick cost analysis here showing you guys that the
platforms are not really quite equal so
the 3570k is around 220 to 240 bucks and
the 8350 is around 200 to 220 bucks depending where you're shopping so
there's already about a $20 difference um however we always factor in
overclocking because we believe we've done enough guides on overclocking that
any Enthusiast should be doing it but you cannot overclock an Intel platform
unless you have an overclocking friendly chipset like a z68 or z77 chipset
however on AMD you can buy a cheapo 970 board and you can overclock your chip so
our cheapest z77 board is 120 bucks that
we found whereas our cheapest not even quite the cheapest but the cheapest one
I'd be confident putting an 8 core on was around 80 bucks so there is
potentially up to a $60 difference in the prices between these platforms but
you might say you don't like to see us compare uh you know non-equal chipset
tiers but even if you take boards that we would consider pretty equivalent like
the Crosshair 5 formula and the Maximus 5 formula there's a $50 difference in
price between these boards now arguably the Intel board does have more bells and
whistles so it has lighting effects on it and it
has you know more onboard buttons and
doodads and better onboard sound yes it does have things the AMD board doesn't
but these are similar class of products
and so you're looking at as much as a $70 difference then between the two
platforms so bear that in mind as you look at the performance results that
we're about to present in our first game Far Cry 3 which you can check out our
benchmarking procedure for by clicking the link below we saw a significant
performance improve Improvement going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 it was a
little less than 10% but it was reproducible and it was anywhere from
about 5 to 8% for both platforms we didn't really see any changes in the
positioning with the I mean with both of them being within margin of error we'd
say this is a tie between the 8350 and the 3570k in terms of performance
remembering the 8350 platform could be cheaper with Crisis 3 we saw something
really cool in Windows 7 when slick
fires the explosive Arrow at the turret we've seen this time and time again on
the AMD platform the FPS dips to around
20 frames per second with whatever optimizations Microsoft has made in
terms of leveraging more cores better in Windows 8 we don't see it anymore both
platforms dip to a minimum of around 30 FPS at that particular segment although
they don't on average actually perform any better on Windows 8 than Windows 7
so what that means to me is although minimums have smoothed out on both
platforms just more uh noticeably on the AMD one the averages are not really any
higher which means maximums are down a little bit that does deliver a better
gaming experience though lower averages with higher minimums is better than huge
averages with low dips our next game is Battlefield 3 and in this one we really
just didn't see much change in terms of averages but both platforms improved in
terms of their minimum frames per second so the 8350 went from 35 to 43 and the
3570k went all the way from 37 to 51 FPS
delivering a much smoother gaming experience moving from Windows 7 to
Windows 8 in Skyrim Intel maintains its
dominance however it should be noted that our Skyrim install has 18 mods from
the workshop so we're not really 100% sure how those affect the performance on
individual chips but we just kind of added mods until the game looked great
and went with it so For Better or For Worse that's what we do in that game the
Intel chip did see about a 20% uplift in
minimum FPS resulting in better overall performance even so even compared to
Windows 7 so Windows 8 once again wins as the gaming platform here Dirt 3 is a
bit of a different story where the 3570k drops in performance both in terms of
minimums and in terms of averages in Windows 7 it was a clear win for the
3570k whereas in Windows 8 the 3570k is
about a dead tie however it should be noted that when you're running at 150
plus frames per second unless you're running some kind of Space Age LCD
monitor that does 240 frames per second then you're probably not going to notice
so there you go guys in Witcher 2 we didn't see much in the way of um strange
Behavior but we did see improvements again going from Windows 7 to Windows 8
so the 8350 particularly went from 51 minimum to 59 minimum although the
averages didn't change much so we're seeing another one of those situations
where minimums improve averages don't really improve much which gives you
smoother overall gameplay whereas the 3570k only improved about 5% um and
we're going to call this one pretty much a tile though the 3570k does Edge out
the 8350 in Metro 2033 we see another
huge Improvement for the 8350 with the 3570k holding steady so it was about a
10% Improvement in minimum frames per second which drove up the average
delivering a smoother gameplay experience than Windows 7 and bringing
it actually slightly ahead of the 3570k although it should be noted that this is
within the margin of error for our tests in crisis 2 we saw pretty much no change
across the board which makes sense because this is a much older title and
we shouldn't be seeing too many new optimizations that are implemented for
it so guys while we showed you all the performance numbers here there are some
things that you didn't see so Windows 8 looks like the stronger platform in
terms of gaming performance but we did have to jump through some hoops to get
some of the games working at all so for example there were games that wouldn't
work until you installed games for Windows Live uninstalled the game having
already tried to install it once and then completely reinstalled the game the
other thing that you don't see is that while the performance of the 8350 and
the 3570k is quite similar there's that price difference I talked about before
and also the fact that the 8350 does run hotter so if your room is above say for
example a garage and it's not air conditioned and it gets hot in the
summer and you're on the south side of the house then heat output May matter to
you and it does consume more power so this comes down to the individual user
whether that's important to you or not so it's that cost performance and other
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