AMD Killing Crossfire! Intel Killing Compatibility! - WAN Show September 29, 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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12,711 words · ~63 min read
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okay there you people happy we
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focused the camera before the show before the show not during the show and
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i'm pretty sure that we got it right but
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then again this is coming from the same person who was pretty sure we had it
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right all those other times so welcome to the
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lan show guys we've got a great show for you guys today i'm going to be having uh
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james and potentially some of the other writers join me one of them is actually
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working on the review of something really really exciting
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that's me and you're not working on anything exciting
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are you someone finally said it
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you get you get all the like monitors and stuff i got good stuff
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i like like what i like working on the bixby thing
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yes okay yes actually that is going to be a good topic for later we're going to
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be talking about um Linus showcase tips which is not the
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internal code word for it but is definitely what we're going to be calling it externally you made me delete
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that i did i made you delete i made you delete the internal code word lest it
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lest it leak from our from our facility here um and james can talk about sort of
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what he's working on i can talk about what all that's gonna mean uh we also
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have some updates on legitimately exciting products or at least rumors on
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them including Intel's upcoming z370 chipset and
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coffee lake cpus and in other news
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okay you do one let's see if you can do it right this time AMD is killing crossfire done single
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card only from now on not true that's not the news it's not
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true that's not the news it's not the news excuse me look when luke and i get
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this crap wrong the excuse is that we haven't actually looked at the document
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yet you worked on it it's a joke it's called
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the joke they're still gonna have multi GPU they're just not calling across you've
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seen the comments on our writing lately our writers shouldn't be making jokes i
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didn't see the comments oh you know it's funny though too because
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a lot of the time you guys actually get crap for stuff that i added to your
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scripts after the fact oh you're the worst
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that's really a drill
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everyone says luke looks weird but it's weird because you're not luke
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not yet not yet
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not yet what the hell does that even mean like
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it's one thing if designer babies man crisper designer babies
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i could get into that all right as someone who has a baby yeah
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like if i could like make my children slightly better
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wouldn't i you're you're lucky your kids are likely to not
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ever watch this yeah it's it is the odds of them watching this episode of the wan
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show are pretty low then again i mean i i i don't really um maybe this is the
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wrong place to talk about this but i don't really get why people watch the
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lan show have did you ever watch the lan show before you worked here yeah a little bit
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really okay why did you watch the WAN Show
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well good question i was scrolling through the list of LTT uploads and i
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accidentally and then and then i suffered from partial
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paralysis for 30 minutes honestly i watched it for luke so it's just gone to
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[ __ ] now
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yeah you and everyone else all right so why don't we jump into our first topic
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today um you know what
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i'm sure this one has got everybody wondering what the hell it is we're
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talking about this was posted on the forum by syntax vgm and the original
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article here is from pc world
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and naturally i didn't uh check my oh i
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didn't oh didn't plug in my
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hd oh i'm sorry i just hit the mic oh oh bad people everyone with
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headphones yeah rip rip everyone with headphones i'm sorry you guys
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um there we go boom that's what it looks like so
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AMD Radeon phases out
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crossfire the crossfire brand that is
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as multi-GPU gets more complicated
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so in a nutshell what's going on here
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they're just not saying crossfire anymore instead they're saying mgpu for
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multi-GPU not to be confused with mobile GPU
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and they're doing this for a reason related to directx
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because apparently crossfire relates specifically to dx11
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applications do you know about that yeah so i can can you drop this on us okay so
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first of all crossfire uh the branding has always been confusing AMD has used
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the crossfire brand for everything from
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ancient x-800 class cards with like these weird
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master slave dvi dongle nonsense things
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hooked up to them all the way to um
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no master slave relationship two three
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or even four cards running in tandem with these bridges connected to them
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it's more progressive and then and then they added an x
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for like you know it's the usual thing x for
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extreme x for that x factor x4 cross
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fire again more crosses
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you don't like this you know what try this you know what i don't even i don't even i don't even need i don't even need
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all the comments about how i should get rid of you and bring back luke i want to
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get look trust me we all want luke to be we all want luke to be here okay j james
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more than anyone because he gets to be in the same building as luke when luke
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is here doing the show oh um but one in 20 of those comments say
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i'm okay thank you and there's still a chance and
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if my doctor got five percent on his exam
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well gee i wouldn't be here to tell you about what if my doctor got five percent
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on his exam discount luke discount luke Yvonne's
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pregnant again um okay so
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wow that would be complicated um okay so basically they've branded a bunch of
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different things a bunch of different ways crossfire has even been used to
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describe running a craptastic
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AMD add-in card with the onboard graphics on your
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motherboard to make it slightly less
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craptastic and it never made any sense
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it was always stupid but not that's not to say that all crossfire was always
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stupid that particular one was always stupid but this branding has always been
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really confusing so now
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they're getting rid of the crossfire brand and if you want my honest opinion
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um i think it's just because they don't want to take responsibility for it when
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it just doesn't work but what does it have to do with apis okay so what it has
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to do with apis is that directx 12 and vulkan are going
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to support multi-GPU rendering in a different way
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than previous apis so with directx's 9
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to 11 the way that sli and crossfire
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worked was via proprietary means enabled
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through the graphics card manufacturer so the game engine
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did have to support it but it didn't actually have to be explicitly coded in
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by the game developer so you could actually take a game let's
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say it used the unreal engine for example you could take some random game
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by some indie developer using the unreal engine and even if you had two cards and
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you got no performance benefit from sli or crossfire whatsoever no scaling no
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scaling at all what you could do is a lot of the time you could go into your
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NVIDIA control panel you could manually enable some form of multi GPU rendering
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rendering rendering be it alternate frame rendering or
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i mean that's the most that's the most common one um
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and you could apply it or you could apply a profile from a similar game also
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using the unreal engine and boom you would have sli or crossfire scaling
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it a lot of the time it would actually work okay to the extent that it worked
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when it comes to directx 12 that's just not a thing so the way that
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it's meant to be implemented with directx 12 in particular is by the game
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developer so they are supposed to actually code into the game how it would
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utilize multiple gpus in theory this
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would actually give you the flexibility to mix and match graphics cards
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in practice i
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personally think that this is basically the end
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of multi-GPU outside of a very small number of of niche games
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where the developer bothers to code it in
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because that's how it is that's how it is right now there's only
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ash is a singularity tomb raider there's only a handful does tomb raider even
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scale well with mgpu i don't even know well it does better on directx 12 than
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11. okay well there's only a few that do that so
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so so pretty much there'll be those games that are as much benchmarks as
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they are games where they actually put all of this support into it because what
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they're trying to do is get like tech publications to use their game
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as a benchmark which is basically free advertising for the game so as far as i
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can tell a lot of game developers have finally clued in to the idea that
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putting a baked in benchmark in the game is pretty much getting marketing for a
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small investment in development time not to mention that it's just convenient for
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the user no kidding um doom is the only newish game that we're featuring at all
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in all of our videos we're still showing deus ex in 2014. yep so
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so basically that's what i think i think AMD is changing the branding because
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they just don't want to be associated with it not
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working and but is mgpu really even new branding
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or multi gp um it seems just more like the name for it
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well that's exactly it is they're they're almost they're almost de-branding it
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speaking of d brand this episode is brought to you by no actually
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um so it's almost like they're just removing all their branding from it so
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that they have to take no responsibility whatsoever when the experience sucks because game
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developers don't bother because even now with the relatively
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and to be clear i'm not saying that it's not a lot of work to like make a game or
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whatever even with the relatively small amount of work that a developer has to
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put in in order to have sli or crossfire work
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properly a lot of games it's like really broken
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so asking them to go several steps further and code it right
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into the game yeah we'll see
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i think you're right it's just gonna be over if everyone's not doing it there's no
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when would you ever make that investment since it's the same cost as upgrading
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your card you need me for two minutes
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oh wow apparently you're on your own for two minutes oh again uh why don't you
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talk about uh oh microsoft officially kills off
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no you don't want to talk about microsoft killing this is your baby i'm
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talking about wechat and the chinese government we chat in the chinese
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government don't get political no no i don't need to get political you put this
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in you we have the we have the best non-political podcast the best i called
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up my friends they told me we had that's huge it was the best terrific the best
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the greatest tremendous huge political content
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earlier this week wechat confirmed wechat is a giant app
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in the in china it's like whatsapp a bit but it's more of a super app
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you can buy stuff on it i think it has mapping and a marketplace and stuff like
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that huge in china wechat this week confirmed
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what everyone was already thinking and that is that it actually sends a lot of
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its users personal data right to the ruling regime the chinese government
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so reading from the page here which i didn't do last week to awful effect
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wechat has over 662 million users
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and in a recent privacy statement confirmed that virtually all of the
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private user information will be disclosed to the chinese authorities
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this became known during a recent update to the app users were required to accept
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the update or to accept the privacy policy in order to get the update and in
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that policy it basically says all your bases are belong
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to us now there's a couple of scary parts to this hey max you sit down yeah
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get in here okay i'm back no we don't want you you know what this is
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the post line of scenario let's just get rid of james okay let's see okay no
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we're still don't do this to me no no we're not gonna do it yet we're not gonna do it how dare you we're gonna
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straw pull it we're gonna straw pull it i didn't agree with the comments last
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week that said Linus was a harsh mean boss but i'm on your side now
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james you're max okay so it's uh
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i'm out of here
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um you're lucky it's not 5 45.
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uh okay um
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okay let's go ahead and create this poll here
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okay let me just say one thing i'm dropping this dropping this in twitch
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chat dropping this twitch show okay guys guys hold on you gotta you guys gotta
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you guys gotta hit the uh the straw pool for me here okay let's drop pull straw
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pull okay i can't believe he was a real girl
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talk about the wechat thing
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so flaccid
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here's the weird thing about this beijing aka the chinese government has
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announced that their regulations will mandate that wechat users will be liable
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and prosecuted for any information posted in the group
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that the government considers objectionable i.e if you send a message to your buddy
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about some something the government does not agree with oh
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and that gets read by the authorities you can just go to jail
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that's pretty dope hey have you heard about tiananmen square i just like
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stumbled apost across this website that i shouldn't have been on and learned
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about it the authorities find that out you're just
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black helicopters going to jail i mean
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theoretically it could happen it's a little tin foil hattie but is it we're
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not guaranteeing that it would happen but uh i i think that to say
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that this is anything other than deeply disturbing would be um
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would be objectively incorrect it may not happen but if the language is vague
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then it could happen and that's what's scary yep
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all right so let's go ahead and have a look at the results here no so let's uh
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screen share wow 76 max 24 Linus so james gets zero votes
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with zero votes whatsoever zero percent
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you done goof can you believe james got zero percent of the vote how much of a
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percent does it count for one vote you voted james you are clearly full of
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crap because there is no james option on the poll
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which i did on purpose it's all james okay okay max come on in you're doing a
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topic yes i know so many things about topics 75 75 of the audience wants max to come
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in okay let's see do you want do you wanna no no no you're
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out you're up okay so max do you want do you want like a softball topic or do you
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want like a uh no i don't mean literally softball
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because i don't know anything about sports either okay no i mean like i meant like an easy topic not actually
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like you know i do you know that kind of thing uh or do you
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want like a hardcore tech topic oh nope
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nope you really don't okay you want a softball yes okay uh how about um
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let's see razer confirms development of a
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gamer-oriented mobile device so what he said
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okay hold on hold on okay what about like the amazon echo okay
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i literally d how does this format work
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okay um usb group announced us announces
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usb 3.2 where are you seeing all of this okay so
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okay so she's more of a camera person uh here why don't we go with um let's go
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with polaroid's new camera okay okay let's talk about polaroid's new
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camera it's not actually on the dock but we can we can discuss this okay okay the
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original article here is from the verge the first polaroid instinct camera in a
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decade is according to the verge adorable
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this is it this is the polaroid camera can you
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imagine in this day and age spending a hundred dollars on a polaroid camera
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bearing in mind that we're not talking it looks like a polaroid camera by the
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way you should come a little closer do i smell that though no i'm just like you're just you're out of the frame uh
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she's a camera person but the frame concept she's still working behind the
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camera yeah i i know it's confusing isn't it yeah okay so bearing in mind it
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doesn't just look like a polaroid camera like an adorable digital camera this is
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actually a polaroid camera the eye type film packets are 16 per
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pack for eight color or black and white
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exposures that's rough
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does this have a place in 2017 okay well
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film is huge now like i have a film camera it costs 16
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for you to develop and get digital prints like emailed to you or whatever
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why would you do that okay i'm glad we are talking about this what the hell
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uh yeah i don't know it's just like it's a look you know what i mean like it has
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like a specific like feel to it and there's like
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it's just it's just a thing it's just a thing that you do
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so it's like an artsy artsy nerd thing i get
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i guess yeah okay okay so then but what about the polaroid camera that's really
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expensive sixteen dollars two dollars a photo
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uh yeah and that's probably us dollars so we're
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talking like two dollars and thirty canadian rupees
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that's too much 240 2.4 canadian rupees whatever it works out to yeah no see
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that's like okay but what about the okay because if
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we're going to talk about taking a picture with a specific type of camera
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just to get like a a a filmic aesthetic
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that like all the cool kids are doing don't you think all the cool kids could
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get into polaroid cameras instant we instant cameras have been around like
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literally always we have those little cute ones you know the little like color
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pastel ones and they come out with like the tiny you know i hate you young
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people instant cameras have been around literally always
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do you know how much that hurts i'm sorry i mean like
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literally always for like a really long time
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since i was born anyway brandon and i actually like went half seas on this
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polaroid printer that he's gonna go get
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okay all right okay tell me about it okay so you have like this app on your
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phone and you can choose any photo from this app
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unbox therapy did it and uh thanks vanna yeah thank you
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uh yeah carry on so yeah you basically like connect us to your phone via
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bluetooth okay and then you choose any photo you want on your phone
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and then you like you can even like add filters like they're little things that
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you can do you can print straight from your instagram on that thing
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and it's incredible and it has like it's those little ones it's like the half size ones yeah so you called it polaroid
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but it's actually made by fujifilm
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gotta go okay so so basically how much does this
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cost is this it's just an inkjet printer or like is it 150
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200. so 200 bucks and then how much are the refills 10 bucks
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10 for 12. 10 for it's like yeah
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and is that canadian rupees or is that okay so so about eight dollars u.s for
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what 10 or 12 exposures whatever it is so okay so as long as you're going to
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print more than 120 pictures this is a
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better value yeah plus you get to choose which one you want to like print so you
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can take like a million selfies on your phone right and then you pick the right
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one and you print it out and you're like oh i casually first try but nobody has to you know you
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can add filters and whatever like i said so so if i'm to understand the sort of
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the the artsy person perspective on this the problem with the polaroid camera is
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that you might frame your selfie wrong and that's the advantage of this
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it's just like i don't know i think it's better it's definitely more portable as well then like you know
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like when is vhs coming back never are you sure
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like how sure are you that vhs is not because because if if we need little
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mini photo printers like this and if polaroid is releasing a new instant film
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camera but like that's you can decorate with that and it's like
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physical memories that you can give to your friends you're not going to give your friend a vhs
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tape because then they need a vhs player
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you know this is just tiny little it's like the player is your
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eyeballs right yeah i've had enough of your crap Colton you know what a vhs is
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all right oh i dropped your uh printer thing that you went half season um okay
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all right well thank you max that was fun and uh basically no polaroid camera
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no right no well you're thinking about it now
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it's growing on you i i knew it i knew this was going to happen they have ones
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that you can get at like nordstrom can i say that something yeah sure driver that
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you can like buy that they're like uh refurbished they're about 150 us
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and those are like legitimate if you're really gonna go hipster you shouldn't buy like the new old because it looks
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like a toy if you're gonna get a polaroid camera so
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you don't so the issue is not the polaroid camera it looks kind of silly
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the issue is the look of the camera
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yeah that too because if you want to do it you gotta look cool and it genuinely
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does look like like one of those fake ones that you would give to a three-year-old yeah oh yeah sure take
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photos see this this is why this is why i don't
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get it a lot of the time i get all wrapped up in like specs and
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megapixels and like camera launch time
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and and i ignore things like well this
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trendy retro camera is sort of real retro and this trendy retro
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camera is like not real retro so
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cool yeah did you just destroy me i don't i think
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we're both destroyed at this point thank you max james you can come back
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Linus doesn't get it confirmed says twitch chat perfect
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that's what i need on my friday thanks max you're welcome
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not to out hipster max but i don't think you can buy a hipster camera at
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nordstrom a corporate chain you need to go to a vintage store to be a real
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hipster she doesn't live in vancouver she lives
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who cares
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oh go lordy okay all right let's move on to our next topic um what did you want
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to talk about oh you wanted to talk about microsoft officially killing off
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skype for business okay the original article here is from
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the verge i know you were really passionate about
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this topic james microsoft teams is replacing skype for
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business to put more pressure on competitor slack all right fill us in
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i know this this one was really dear to your heart can't even find it do you
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have you used teams question number one no i haven't used
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teams okay our office is not moving to teams i
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don't think no it's not okay
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do you have a burning hatred for skype for business i do i do yes i do
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why is that okay so the problem with skype for business
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is that it's not actually skype is that okay yes there's that one it is for
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business so they have that going for them are we
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a business we are a business but we are a business that actually has
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office 365 subscriptions for all of its members
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but the office 365 doesn't include skype
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for business unless you get the stupid premium one so skype for business was
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kind of like the social network
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that requires everyone else to be on the same social
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network except it was expensive
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and it had no benefit as far as i could tell
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over other options
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apparently teams is giving slack some sweat
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yeah slack is they're actually giving them sweat i
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don't think they're really sweating and then they're going over to the the slack
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office and they're like here's our sweat that is disgusting you are disgusting
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okay so i think that slack basically had all the market share
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and when i say that they're sweating i don't mean that like it's 50 50. now
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that microsoft teams exists because like let's be honest
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but it's enough and they're getting some cool new features so the ability to hold calls
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the ability to transfer calls they're getting voicemail which is like
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it's like it's like when are we gonna do away with voicemail and go back to
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little analog tapes that fit in your answering machine when will my apple
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watch be a watch um and audio conferencing
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so i don't think i've never used slack that way maybe the
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group checking does does slack have voice calling or i've only ever used the
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chatting and there's there's bots to my knowledge slack doesn't have voice
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calling so this is sounds like it's like skype plus slack so if they outstrip
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slack in lots of ways they claimed at their unveil to have 125
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000 businesses using teams like in the first six months of rollout
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okay so no they apparently um apparently you can make calls and slacks so i know
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luke uses slack i actually i wish
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far more than i already did that luke was here because luke actually has
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extensive experience with slack um and he has been using it with the float
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plane team for quite some time but um
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yeah there you go you can make calls and pretty much the problem with skype for
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business aside from just not really having a compelling value ad
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and not being intercompatible with skype that's the biggest thing like the fact
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that you had to go and install skype for business on your computer then the the
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login didn't cross over either and how confusing is that when they share the
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same name if you've never used or heard of skype for business before and someone
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says they're gonna call you on it yeah you the time for the meeting arrives you log
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into your skype and you're like where are they that literally happened here
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that literally has happened to me quite a few times because
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using skype for business would only ever come up if the other business
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happened to be like stuck on skype for business
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like everyone else just uses something
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that you can call into like uh what's um
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what's their like go-to meeting or whatever yeah where you can just call in
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with a landline or you can call in with whatever but skype for
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business to do that so yeah so teams is looking like so it's
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actually using the same back end as skype for business um but it's going to
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be losing the skype branding and it's gonna be getting some some fun new features so skype for business is gonna
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be around for the next one year yeah october 2018 and it's going to be
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interoperable with teams throughout that period
28:05
so that's kind of nice for like the 10 people who use skype for business
28:10
what the heck are people talking about oh everyone wants max back by the way of
28:14
course um he's better looking than me stream for youtube is down stream for
28:19
youtube is down
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what i'm so confused
28:26
i am so very confused right now you know you twitch chat people
28:31
you guys are adorable all right let's talk about something james really wants
28:36
to talk about the snes mini so this was originally posted overall by
28:41
wm groom ak on the forum and the original article is from overclock3d.net
28:47
it looks like nintendo's snes mini
28:51
may actually use the same hardware as
28:54
the nest mini the exact same so we might be just getting a new shell
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some new game roms and actually the same
29:04
hardware check out this picture
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like wow people are upset
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so why are they upset two reasons
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okay number one everything here makes sense from
29:18
nintendo's perspective yes but just doesn't make sense according to the laws
29:22
of the universe the nes the snes no the nest mini
29:26
classic like the last one got cancelled
29:29
now we know that that didn't actually have to happen because they obviously are they're still making the same parts
29:34
on the same fabs they didn't have to make it an exclusive limited time only
29:38
thing but they did they just hate money as far as i can tell no this makes you
29:41
more money it's like why doesn't mcdonald's have the rib which all the time no it doesn't make you more money
29:46
it has influxes of demand when it comes out well yeah but that assumes that they're
29:51
gonna re-release the nest mini i think it says that they will
29:55
it may not be in the notes but i think like next summer they're going to do
29:58
that again
30:02
the second reason is that they could have made the super nests all the time
30:05
the whole time they had the hardware requisite to make the superintendent and
30:09
only now they're giving it to us okay so a thing we wanted for all the
30:13
time we could have had and the thing we still want now we can't have any more but nintendo has the power and we're
30:18
like they're prisoners okay so i'm gonna okay i'm gonna play devil's advocate a
30:22
little bit here what was your first argument again i don't remember i wasn't really paying
30:25
attention they cancelled production uh yes they so they stopped production of
30:29
the nes minion so i i uh okay yeah i really don't have a
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justification for that one okay as for the snes mini not being released right
30:37
away that makes a ton of sense because from a marketing perspective you want to
30:42
you want it yeah you want to have products to roll out you want people to
30:45
have something to spend their disposable income on this month and then if you
30:51
release you're basically fighting yourself don't make them choose yeah don't make them
30:55
choose you know wait till they've gotten a few more paychecks and then release
30:58
something else the other side of that argument that i'm going to devil's advocate a little bit
31:02
here is that while obviously
31:06
nintendo didn't run out and like develop a bunch of new games for this nest mini
31:10
because that would be besides the point
31:14
um it's not like there wasn't going to be some development they had to do
31:18
because this is now this is not a janky
31:21
rom running on zed snazz on your old laptop
31:25
that doesn't even have a modem in it so
31:29
literally copying like roms over on that 16 meg thumb
31:34
drive that one of your friends in high school gave you because he's a super cool dude and he like you know went back
31:39
to china before we had usb thumb drives here in north america
31:44
um well because uh uh anyway the point is you know this
31:50
this is not some you know and oh right so then you have to use your usb drive
31:53
on your desktop to copy your roms over to this laptop and then you take the
31:57
laptop around with you but it actually doesn't really have like a working battery anymore so you have to be
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plugged in you know totally hypothetical story um so it's
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gonna work good it's supposed to work properly so they actually do need to
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spend some time presumably doing some testing
32:16
making sure everything is smooth now
32:20
to be clear it's not like you know ness or snes emulators running
32:24
on you know armed cpus is anything new
32:28
at all but there's just some validation to be done before they can actually
32:32
release a product like this they've gotta create box art which you know you might
32:37
not think about as a consumer in terms of
32:40
like whatever it's it's box art who cares you
32:45
throw some art on a box like what's wrong with you but you actually have to
32:50
factor in okay you know which company is producing it what colors and
32:54
what can they put the the nintendo seal
32:58
foil on it can they do this can they do that when can when can they meet the
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order when can they print them when will that be delivered to the factory to be
33:05
packaged to like there's a lot and if you're a business entity with limited
33:09
resources and you're just going to take this workload and spread it out over
33:12
time so the way to do that is have the old one and then the next one not to
33:17
mention that there's things like fcc validation that you or ul certification
33:22
that you have to go through for any electronic device and you're gonna
33:25
you're just gonna kill yourself trying to do everything all at once and then like
33:31
so try to like design all the hardware all at once and then try to build all
33:35
those software well they did do all the harder ones okay yes that they did and
33:39
then try to build all the software and all the ui crap and do all the
33:42
validation at once and then they're marketing deal with all the submissions
33:45
for like regulatory approval all at once then do all the marketing all at once no
33:49
it's stupid so they're working on
33:53
a little tiny n64 i hope so
33:56
and the 24 would be pretty cool
33:59
although snes is as the as sort of the
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console of my childhood actually that is my favorite concept but there are other
34:06
childhoods that came after yours yeah but i don't care about those
34:10
so my my nostalgia has been totally
34:14
taken care of at this point follow-up question if they did a re-release of a
34:17
little n64 which means they're manufacturing new controllers do you
34:21
think they would still have the joystick that had this string
34:24
that got loose you know the n64 controller joystick got loose
34:27
over time and it sucked or do you think that they would modernize that in
34:32
that implementation and if they did would it change how you
34:35
played those old games
34:40
you know what i don't know if nintendo would admit
34:43
they ever did it wrong
34:46
and if they did it differently wouldn't it kill the nostalgia
34:54
like i okay so this is really going to be polarizing this is almost drawable
34:58
okay let's let's hit this i think this is going to be divisive
35:03
like if you're going to nostalgia out on n64 do you want to go to your buddy's
35:06
house and he gives you the crappier controller that's loose and you're like oh
35:11
or do you want to be on even playing field like you should have been in
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all the time okay so i'm creating the poll
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them that didn't exist in high school i would have taken any port in a storm
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how how how
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how much regret do you have for eating that enormous
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i just thought it was the hottest one and the answer to either one is no
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all right you're okay at the time no you don't want any
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oh that's right you're vegetarian aren't you mostly mostly all right all right
37:50
all right so um i'm going for the team some my wife's
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dad's a hunter he shoots moose i eat them that's good
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he doesn't make jerky though you did the ghost pepper yeah why not is
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that the hottest one or is that the reaper it's the second hottest one
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it's got quite a kick though the problem though was not eating it
38:13
the problem was that enormous peace that you ate at one time because i got a text
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message from this guy hours later i think it might even the next morning
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actually that savage jerky though
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yeah it was actually the way it sat in my stomach
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i felt pretty bad until i put a bunch of food in there after leaving
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so savage jerky it's
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you can't taste it when it's that spicy but okay one of these days i rest
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maple bacon is really good um
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the uh oh man the uh what's the green one
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now let's go back to our straw pool i am
39:52
really interested to see these results i'm betting on don't fix it
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fix it wow sweet
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okay so you're with them right yeah i think if they refresh it they
40:06
should just use the same joystick mechanism using
40:09
like a gamecube controller for example interesting even though
40:14
you know if you're firing up some perfect dark or whatever
40:18
it might be a slightly different experience
40:22
i would hope i have never like side by side a b test
40:25
of this but i would hope that a fresh 64 controller the feel of that joystick is
40:30
similar to like a normal playstation or gamecube or xbox controller's joystick
40:35
so do you think that's pretty loose from the beginning no when you got a new
40:38
snappy one it was like yes when you got like get one for your
40:42
birthday or something like that but how they degraded so poorly over time it
40:46
was sometimes unplayable and if you're player four you always got that one and
40:50
then you have to buy another one and like if they could just avoid that whole thing again that'd be great james tell
40:55
me something tell me about your childhood
40:59
were you player four do you look if you don't want to talk
41:03
about it buddy it's okay but but were you player four
41:08
sometimes
41:11
i had two friends who are exceptionally good gamers and uh i got slayed every single time at
41:17
smash bros and goldeneye but i was good
41:20
at perfect dark okay so that
41:23
that's a big load of bull crap oh someone mixed them up again
41:29
was i not not actually hmm that's a really
41:33
tasty one actually now i don't even know what i'm eating though dang it
41:36
they're all good so my friend you know what
41:40
i'm gonna use his name because he's a dick um
41:44
and he deserves it so my friend tyson in high school
41:48
this guy would have me over to his house the guy had a playstation one
41:53
playstation two oh yeah right that's the camping battle
41:56
station's house okay so guys got a playstation one gotta
42:00
play station i was living with my mom
42:03
we didn't own a game console at all
42:07
computer yes game console no um don't you have like six brothers and sisters
42:12
yeah and you shared one pc yes i was the nerd though like no one
42:17
else really wanted to use it that much until my until my little sister discovered habbo hotel you guys wouldn't
42:21
like this i love to have a hotel for a time terrible anyway
42:26
so i um so i go over to his house all the time
42:30
he's got playstations i got no console at all
42:33
this guy he sits and plays tekken
42:36
like all the time and like what was that um what was that
42:40
uh car game that a twisted metal twist
42:44
tekken okay so he plays these games all the time
42:48
i show up i'm clearly already at a disadvantage because i i barely play
42:52
them i only play when i'm over at his house and like with him so he clearly
42:56
has my if my experience is x he clearly
43:00
has x plus y yeah he's a big nerd so i'm pretty sure
43:04
his y is quite large um and he gives me
43:09
not just a worn out controller he gives
43:12
me this like total [ __ ] mode
43:15
like third party controller uh like a madcatz or something with an ant no not
43:20
even a mad cat no not even dollar store like the brand broke dick doesn't exist
43:26
okay not only that but it has the analog stick broken off so what do you mean
43:31
broken so one of the analog sticks is a stump
43:36
and the entire thing is like the least like it's like this wide and my hands
43:40
like even now my hands couldn't fit on it you're talking about ps1
43:44
where analog was optional the default control didn't have sticks i don't
43:47
remember yeah it must be because twisted middle must be ps2 then
43:51
the point is he makes me use this [ __ ] controller because he doesn't want to
43:56
invest in another playstation controller which i get he's a child he should give
44:00
me the good one and he was not a child he was like 13.
44:05
did he have a paper route
44:08
no but he should give me the good controller all right but he can't invest
44:12
investing when your kid is like my birthday is here
44:15
he should still give me the better controller i'm a guest in his house
44:19
and i suck at the game he should play with the crappy control that's an adult
44:22
perspective as a kid you're basically a little animal
44:26
well and it's way of the road but yeah
44:30
get nerfed do you think when you played uh bond
44:34
goldeneye when you choose your characters obviously you have an advantage if your odd job because he's
44:39
really small and people have to crouch to hit him or aim down and aiming down sucked because they only had one
44:43
joystick do you think other than odd job that the
44:46
characters that you chose in goldeneye were actually balanced or that bond had
44:50
just a slight edge bond had a one more health bar it was a
44:55
little faster do you think bond was different only one of my friends had
44:58
golden eye um getting better friends man yeah i
45:01
know one of my friends had goldeneye and i didn't go over to his house very much
45:04
and as you know i didn't own any consoles during that time straw poll so
45:09
um well no i actually am straw pulling a far more important question should the
45:13
guest get the better controller this is far more important not if you want to
45:17
win if you're the host no of course you're going to win anyway you play
45:22
like i went through this with luke when um mario kart launched for the wii u
45:27
and we played it together like once like pretty early on i think and then
45:33
the guy's like playing it constantly and he goes and he pulls this whole telling
45:37
himself that he's unlocking all the characters and everyone should be
45:40
grateful but then you can't play with him because he's one of those hopeless
45:44
people that plays like party games by themselves so they can kick everybody's
45:49
butt at the party that's not fun that's not a party
45:52
the best party gaming experience
45:56
the best party gaming experience has come when nobody is good at the game
46:00
when everybody's playing some crap game that nobody ever heard i once won a
46:04
mario party mario party competition at a real party and it was the mario party
46:09
game where you have to shake the pop did you get invited to real time as much
46:12
you gotta shake the most like this it's funny he called it a real party that's
46:16
sad it was a real party because it was hosted by girls it was a real party it
46:20
was real this is why it was real it was in college one it was in residence no
46:25
parents it was hosted by women and because at the end of the tournament
46:29
it was me against the girl and i won the whole time throughout the tournament i
46:33
was using my right hand i'm left-handed took her out special weapon
46:39
so you princess brightened her boom if
46:42
she if she beat all the guys at that do you not get the reference i've seen the
46:46
movie no no no no no this is how you feel when
46:49
i do wayne's world references no you do this every friday you can't have
46:55
seen the princess bride
46:58
the princess bride is a fundamental cornerstone of our culture
47:04
you okay you're three or four years older than me
47:07
i don't remember yeah when you get older your memory
47:10
starts to that's the difference
47:14
all right you know what why don't we just do a tech topic because i've had enough of your bull crap can we do
47:18
amazon they surprised everyone this week six new hardware products out of nowhere
47:22
who cares it's just more like digital
47:26
assistance it's because you're in canada and you can't use them no you don't care
47:30
right we should so are you we should have someone in the states who
47:34
just has this stuff and just just reviews amazon corresponding
47:39
all right so the original article here is from techcrunch
47:42
um so there's there's more echo hardware
47:47
there's more echo hardware echo hardware echo hardware
47:51
uh the new echo is a refresher the original it's smaller it's a hundred dollars it's got a cloth covered body it
47:56
has a dedicated woofer and tweeter but this is okay aside from the products
48:01
that they introduced it's so interesting in the in their business model and the
48:04
way that amazon works which is completely different to how any other
48:08
hardware manufacturer works there's not six google homes there will
48:12
be another one next week but you know what i mean
48:16
they just launched six there's like one with a screen one without a screen this big one a tall one there's there's so
48:20
many and they're all dirt cheap why do they do that how do they do that why
48:24
doesn't anyone else do that
48:28
i know why they do that go ahead let me tell you
48:32
it's because amazon has so many different parts to their business all
48:36
these parts are interconnected and actually create a positive feedback loop
48:39
with each other so they can sell these hardware products dirt cheap because the
48:43
point isn't to make all their revenue from selling these hardware products
48:47
their point is to get people using amazon echo to order things on prime to
48:51
spend more money in their core business which is selling stuff on amazon.com i'm
48:54
not actually convinced that their core business is selling stuff on amazon.com
48:58
aren't they still losing money on that like with prime
49:01
i only have to order like two things here in canada to just like
49:06
wreck amazon on prime but you're an outlier because amazon's
49:11
data shows that prime customers on average spend twelve hundred dollars a
49:14
year 1200 a year yeah but that doesn't
49:18
change that that prime customer could be
49:22
like they could be losing a ton of money on that prime membership on just 1200 of
49:27
orders like you order a couple computer cases and they're like they're done like
49:32
they're done for what they're charging for prime um
49:35
i mean i think honestly i think they're core business from the shipping cost
49:39
data you're getting free shipping aws is a huge part of the business i think it's
49:43
like a third of it now and they have all the market share in that space and not
49:46
just aws but just knowing what people are buying
49:51
understanding the consumer because right now like amazon is like
49:56
it's like the silicon valley startup which they are of course but like the
50:00
silicon valley startup like on steroids well they're the one that made it
50:04
through the dot-com bubble yeah where they just they just never actually exit
50:08
startup mode oh yeah they just keep making their business like worth
50:12
more and more and more and it doesn't actually matter how much money they make
50:16
because it's sort of irrelevant and then once they've just crowded out everybody
50:20
else then they just
50:23
crank all the prices and they're like yep how's that
50:27
come at me i know it will it might i mean right now they're still in startup
50:30
mode so they go and acquire whole foods and i slash all the prices
50:34
but it benefits consumers for now for now
50:38
for the time yeah until like
50:42
when amazon merges with costco then we're all done for it um
50:46
that'll be the that'll actually be the end the end of time
50:50
you know the end times whatever it's called the dark times into something
50:54
down the reckoning so there's a new echo there's an echo plus
50:58
which is the same as the original but now it's a smart home hub it's beefed up
51:02
how many people have smart home crap well that's the thing so what amazon
51:06
does is they they put a little fishing line out that
51:09
was the echo they see how well it does and then if it makes money or there's
51:13
interest or a market's developing they just hammer it and that's what they're
51:16
doing now with these race to the bottom priced
51:20
like deluge of products there's six of them they're beating apple and google to
51:24
the punch here at the at the google event which we're gonna cover next
51:28
wednesday morning i think google is planning on
51:32
we know they're announcing a small google home but there's speculation that
51:36
they are also going to release one with a screen on it that can make
51:39
video calls and watch netflix which is a direct response to the echo show
51:44
so this is a hardware tech space
51:48
other than ebooks i guess our e-readers where amazon actually has a lead over
51:52
like the biggest players so they're trying to grab market share it's a land
51:56
grab yeah so pricing wise everything from 99 to
52:00
130 for the echo spot which is kind of like a crossover
52:04
between the dot and the show smart alarm clock that can make video
52:08
calls i mean basically yeah so the idea is they want these things all over your
52:12
house echo button is 20 bucks a pair hockey puck sized
52:17
pairs with the echo and it's like an interplay for like trivia games
52:21
yeah so you can interact with it it's 10 bucks
52:27
i just i really do think i'm losing touch like i'm getting old-fashioned
52:31
check out the echo spot though or which one of these
52:35
there's one that has a speaker on it that's oh it's the fire tv now i can't
52:39
believe that being willing to take your phone out of your pocket to look
52:42
something up is old-fashioned now don't you want to be able to use it when
52:46
you're cooking and your hands are wet
52:50
my phone's waterproof get on my level but you can't swipe
52:55
it's called an apron
52:58
apron i can picture you in or a tea towel who
53:02
cares oh it's so annoying because bixby as you'll see in our upcoming video you
53:07
can control the actual interface like bixby swipe left how sweet is it just
53:11
have your recipe up there your chocolate stuff bixby scroll down you can see the
53:15
next part of the recipe awesome hey siri
53:20
oh for crying out loud see this this is why
53:24
this is this is the problem with all this stuff none of it works the way you
53:28
expect okay here's something you like a little
53:31
you like you have an opinion on this right the fire siri apologized
53:36
i don't need friends who apologize they got a new fire t 4k it's 70.
53:42
that's a hundred dollars less than the apple tv 4k wow get rekt apple 100 less
53:48
it's the same price as a chromecast 4k okay
53:52
all right i just i have such a hard time caring
53:56
about that um speaking of things i have a hard time caring about
54:00
um numlock21 posted this on the forum the original article is from guru 3d you
54:04
don't care about this is this is exactly the kind of thing that gets your blood
54:08
russian actually no what am i supposed to do with 20 gigabit
54:13
usb stuff fast
54:17
yeah like what do stuff fast
54:20
what what stuff am i doing taking stuff off of external stuff
54:24
putting out other stuff why would i be doing that you're a camera person i have
54:28
a nas you're a camera person okay
54:32
what am i okay okay okay okay in the
54:35
future so can we just introduce this this is
54:39
pretty cool so basically it's an update to the usb 3 spec
54:44
that will allow what would be a 5 gigabit line to carry
54:48
10 gigabit per second and what would be 10 to carry up to 20. so it is a
54:53
doubling of the bandwidth this will be done by adding two lane
54:58
operation over existing usbc cables so
55:01
provided the cables have been certified for 10 gigabit per second super speed
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usb then this will work however both the
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host and the client need to be compatible with the new standard so theoretically
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20 gigabit per second we're talking like 2500 megabytes per second so let's say
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hypothetically that some you know camera
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manufacturer that thinks they're just way too good to charge reasonable prices
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for their gear were to actually release recording media that is actually faster
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than just an off-the-shelf mcada SSD
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let's say that they were recording to NVMe ssds
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if i had a reader that could read at you
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know 2
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20 gigabit then i guess if i also had a 20 gigabit
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you know network then i could copy over to that
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if i had a a Thunderbolt
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what am i doing with this why do you care so much about
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Thunderbolt that you don't care about this well Thunderbolt's cool because it's
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daisy chainable it carries displayport
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which okay usbc displayport as well but it can okay but
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it can carry displayport and data at the same time
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it's a pci express connection wait are you saying that usbc you can't do data
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and displayport at the same time not that i'm aware of
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okay um
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okay the other the other thing about Thunderbolt is that because it is
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essentially pci express over a wire
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without like janky adapters you can
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actually run basically internal cards
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so if you wanted to have a usb graphics card for example you need some like
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craptastic you know usb
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3d accelerator with the freaking 2d crap
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on it is complicated they're over a hundred dollars if you wanted a
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Thunderbolt graphics card you could just use a real graphics card and you don't
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have to go and spend 600 on a razer core or 500 or whatever it is you can get
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something like that beast thing from banggood we got one we never got it
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working but that's a whole other issue the point is that there's the potential for it
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daisy chainable pci express regardless of the actual rated speeds of either of
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them is cooler that's cooler but let's back this up a bit obviously you can't
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be mad that this is getting faster no and that it uses the same cord
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i just jumped for some of the cool i don't have a single thing that benefits from 10 gigabit usb let alone 20. we we
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all want the technology to move forward but here here's a couple questions first
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question when are we going to expect these things to any devices like this to actually hit
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the market well i don't care you don't even see gen 2 really yet i think uh
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barely does the z270 chipset i think
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i think z270 finally got usb 3.1 gen 2.
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no i don't think it has it i think AMD's chipsets have it yeah 3.99
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does yeah i think that's um that that's the next gen until feature so we're
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probably like maybe they'll leapfrog it no two three
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years away but we'll see second question i could be
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wrong is the clarification you said when you introduced this topic that it will
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double the speed of either your five gigabit cable or your 10
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gigabit cable so it means you'll be able to use the same i thought it was only for only the
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10 gigabit cables could do it um so no it's basically they're just
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they're they're doubling up on what could be carried by the existing cables
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so right now you can and that i mean the cable certifications are like
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uh you know you can get a 5 gigabit cable and the chances of it doing 10
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gigabit are probably pretty good if it was a good cable in the first place so i
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don't stress too much about that stuff
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how about this what else we got iphone 8 swollen
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battery have you seen this have you heard about this i have hardwarezone.com
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the original poster on the forum was vegetable stew great name
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reports of swollen batteries inside the new iphone surface online
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like i know this isn't gonna matter or make a dent in anything either their
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perception or their sales but i still just it's a little win i like when this
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happens to apple why i don't know someone bought an expensive
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thing and it broke well they're gonna be fine they're gonna get another one that's it is a drag it might take a
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couple weeks for them but i think it's just you know what it
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is wow it's not to anti-fanboy it's just that some people are so hardcore like i
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try not to fanboy anything try to be scientific about things
59:45
when people fanboy really hard as many apple people do it's just nice to have
59:49
something to point to be like they're not perfect okay
59:53
they're not the iphones aren't mana from heaven they screw up sometimes
59:58
okay
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so this happened in taiwan and japan um
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after three days using the original charger apparently one of them's uh body
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and screen split from the bloat
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i made a half centimeter gap yeah that's how much it swelled wow
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that's a lot there are unconfirmed reports coming in
60:20
that the iphone 8 plus uses the same battery manufacturer amperax
60:24
technologies limited as the samsung galaxy note 7. we're in baby burn herpa
60:28
derp now if that's true
60:31
then that looks pretty bad on apple and samsung
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well no not samsung because i don't think i mean samsung has sort of fixed their
60:39
crap i don't think i've seen any reports of note 8s having any issues
60:43
razer confirmed development of a gamer oriented mobile device
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the company confirmed earlier this year a 15 million dollar acquisition of all
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shares of mobile startup next bit who had previously produced the next bit
60:56
robin's smartphone and they canceled it when they bought them
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okay found it in singapore blah blah blah et cetera wow they really did
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there's not much to say about it so i want to speculate though sure what does
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it mean to make a gamer's phone
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other than black with green accents definitely that's a given probably
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really boxy and lots of like angles on it but aside from that
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um high refresh rate screen i would love to see a high refresh rate
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screen but given that that's a bare minimum given that razer still doesn't
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have a high refresh rate screen on the latest blade i wouldn't get my hopes up
61:33
if an ipad pro exists already and that review is still coming by the way if an
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ipad pro exists for a year before this
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gamer phone comes out and one of the things gamers care about is
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high refresh rate screens if if that already exists and
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then this phone comes out and doesn't have that lights out i don't think a lot of gamers
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know that they care about high refresh rate screens
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to be perfectly honest with like our audience i think is more educated when
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it comes to that console gamers
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console gamers yeah console gamers like i think you know what razer is
62:06
though i think they think that 60 hertz is pretty good
62:10
well if you're if everyone has the same hardware it's like
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having a console the phone will be basically like a console because everyone's using the same hardware so
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they could lock the frame right i just mean like nobody's necessarily demanding
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this right or are they because as per another news
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item in here the head of the of playstation was like yeah we're not
62:30
doing mobile gaming anymore yeah i know because smartphones
62:35
so they're still selling the vita within um
62:38
what is it japan i think is that it i think it was like japan and somewhere
62:43
um but yeah so sony's basically like yeah
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nobody wants handhelds anymore we have not seen that as being a huge market
62:51
opportunity outside of japan and asia you might say what about the switch but
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that's like a hybrid it's kind of like an exception i think they made market
62:58
share for themselves because well yeah because they made
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market share for mobile devices because it replaced their
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tv console so yeah exactly yeah you had no choice
63:10
but to buy a mobile gaming console
63:13
so if you have a phone already for gaming i kind of think that makes sense
63:18
to have a gaming phone yeah but what is it
63:23
okay so high refresh rate what else makes it gaming
63:26
maybe they'll just sacrifice like you won't care so much about camera
63:30
it'll give you more room to have bigger beefier components
63:34
but the camera doesn't take up almost any room like it's all processing driven
63:37
these days anyway and i would make the argument that if you're
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gonna try and sell me a gaming phone if anything it should have a better camera
63:46
it should have a great front-facing camera so i can like stream mobile games
63:50
maybe it'll only have a front-facing camera oh lordy
63:55
maybe it'll have like a joystick people are like battery life okay
63:59
if razer came out and they were like yep it's a flagship class phone it has like
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a 6 000 milliamp hour battery i'd be like okay
64:07
sure because now you can actually go and play your clash of the clans for
64:12
like five eight hours uninterrupted on a
64:15
device well it'll probably be and i'm kidding i know it's clash of clans it'll
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probably be free i would i would expect it to be like double thick
64:23
because under this like gaming moniker you can get away with certain things
64:26
that people don't normally allow in a normal phone
64:30
it might be fat and have a huge battery
64:35
see there it is there it is they're like clash of the clans
64:38
oh apparently it's dead too i don't know that's the joke
64:43
um grab of cash
64:48
oh man i always know i can set these guys off with my outdated uh
64:52
and like incorrect gaming references anyway what about this uh this angle
64:57
here okay what do you got
65:00
the creation of an original mobile device also opens up the potential for
65:04
razer to invest in mobile esports a growing space
65:11
so is razer actually like trying to build products that people want to buy
65:14
and make money or are they just trying to like
65:18
pull a silicon valley and make their business worth a lot so
65:21
that they can get acquired um
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don't they what are they doing with the like that
65:28
currency i don't remember but they're like
65:31
dabbling they're dabbling like everything
65:34
like they did an Android console for the living room like what happened to that thing
65:39
no idea maybe they're just trying to have like a fully integrated ecosystem i
65:43
remember they were really excited about their competitor for like NVIDIA game
65:46
stream and steam in home streaming they showed it to me back at ces like i
65:50
don't know two years ago or something like that i was like yeah this isn't very good they're like oh yeah but it'll
65:54
be like way better and then i don't think i've heard about it since
65:58
um elon musk wants to use his rockets just
66:02
to fly around earth like go from
66:05
here to london in 30 minutes
66:08
30 minutes same price as an economy airline ticket price somehow no wonder
66:13
he bailed on the hyperloop because that's like way better
66:16
not for the environment no but it's faster hell yeah it's faster
66:22
it'll shoot you into space like low earth orbit and then you'll just go
66:26
at 18 000 miles an hour i think it is like an order of magnitude faster than
66:30
anything humanity's ever done
66:34
and they're building this in this next six to nine months they're starting it
66:39
well he's crazy and it's after six and uh
66:44
tgi friday baby one comment though the question on everybody's mind if you are
66:49
gonna fly to your business trip in shanghai on this thing what kind of g's
66:53
are you pulling on the launch pad are you
66:57
like do you know what i mean i looked it up it turns out the human body can
67:01
withstand nine g's and that gravitron game at the at the
67:06
yeah like playland or whatever yeah where it sticks you to the wall and like your phone goes flying that's like two
67:11
and a half to three g's and wow yeah so that's only a third of
67:15
what your body can take like in fighter jet but there's that other gravitron there's the uh it's not called the
67:19
gravitron it's called like zendar or something the one that flips up on the side oh yeah so on that one it spins
67:24
about as fast as the gravitron i think uh because it has to keep you stuck to
67:29
the seat when you're upside down but then when you're down at the bottom
67:32
like it's it's stronger you're like shot in you're like slingshotted into the
67:36
pool yeah yeah oh yeah regardless anyway
67:40
it's apparently a typical rocket launch is like three g's so similar to the
67:44
gravitronic oh that's not too bad yeah oh you could totally do that yeah
67:48
i could do that every day maybe i'll just commute from my house in
67:52
a rocket boom boom boom indeed you would literally boom you
67:57
would go to every conference you go to computex you go to the microsoft event to see the new surface whatever yeah
68:01
half an hour for the day so yeah see you tonight
68:05
especially if it's that cheap i don't know how he's gonna make it that cheap i don't think he's gonna make it that
68:08
cheap yeah well all right well thanks for tuning in you guys see you next week
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same bad time same bad channel bye-bye
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thanks for stopping by do you know that meme
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like the first meme oh i thought you were old
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i'm old i'm also dumb
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luke died for this luke died for this
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how dare you stand where he stood oh during the break when max was on here
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mape tweeted at me he was like i like james
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so there you go there's your one in 20. hey
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i got a couple last time exactly that's your couple in 40. like
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tweets yeah