1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,680 okay there you people happy we 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:13,840 focused the camera before the show before the show not during the show and 3 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:15,519 i'm pretty sure that we got it right but 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,320 then again this is coming from the same person who was pretty sure we had it 5 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:22,000 right all those other times so welcome to the 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:26,480 lan show guys we've got a great show for you guys today i'm going to be having uh 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:31,279 james and potentially some of the other writers join me one of them is actually 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:36,399 working on the review of something really really exciting 9 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:38,879 that's me and you're not working on anything exciting 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,920 are you someone finally said it 11 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:50,079 you get you get all the like monitors and stuff i got good stuff 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:54,320 i like like what i like working on the bixby thing 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:57,120 yes okay yes actually that is going to be a good topic for later we're going to 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:02,960 be talking about um Linus showcase tips which is not the 15 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:08,240 internal code word for it but is definitely what we're going to be calling it externally you made me delete 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:13,040 that i did i made you delete i made you delete the internal code word lest it 17 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:17,280 lest it leak from our from our facility here um and james can talk about sort of 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,600 what he's working on i can talk about what all that's gonna mean uh we also 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:26,640 have some updates on legitimately exciting products or at least rumors on 20 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:30,960 them including Intel's upcoming z370 chipset and 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:34,000 coffee lake cpus and in other news 22 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:40,960 okay you do one let's see if you can do it right this time AMD is killing crossfire done single 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,920 card only from now on not true that's not the news it's not 24 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:48,880 true that's not the news it's not the news excuse me look when luke and i get 25 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,920 this crap wrong the excuse is that we haven't actually looked at the document 26 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,000 yet you worked on it it's a joke it's called 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,240 the joke they're still gonna have multi GPU they're just not calling across you've 28 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:04,560 seen the comments on our writing lately our writers shouldn't be making jokes i 29 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:08,080 didn't see the comments oh you know it's funny though too because 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,360 a lot of the time you guys actually get crap for stuff that i added to your 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:17,080 scripts after the fact oh you're the worst 32 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,080 that's really a drill 33 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:35,120 everyone says luke looks weird but it's weird because you're not luke 34 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:37,519 not yet not yet 35 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,760 not yet what the hell does that even mean like 36 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:46,800 it's one thing if designer babies man crisper designer babies 37 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:51,680 i could get into that all right as someone who has a baby yeah 38 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,519 like if i could like make my children slightly better 39 00:02:54,319 --> 00:03:00,319 wouldn't i you're you're lucky your kids are likely to not 40 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:04,640 ever watch this yeah it's it is the odds of them watching this episode of the wan 41 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:08,800 show are pretty low then again i mean i i i don't really um maybe this is the 42 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:12,000 wrong place to talk about this but i don't really get why people watch the 43 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:17,200 lan show have did you ever watch the lan show before you worked here yeah a little bit 44 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,840 really okay why did you watch the WAN Show 45 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:28,800 well good question i was scrolling through the list of LTT uploads and i 46 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:32,720 accidentally and then and then i suffered from partial 47 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:35,840 paralysis for 30 minutes honestly i watched it for luke so it's just gone to 48 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,680 [ __ ] now 49 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,519 yeah you and everyone else all right so why don't we jump into our first topic 50 00:03:43,519 --> 00:03:48,080 today um you know what 51 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,920 i'm sure this one has got everybody wondering what the hell it is we're 52 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:58,239 talking about this was posted on the forum by syntax vgm and the original 53 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:02,799 article here is from pc world 54 00:03:58,239 --> 00:04:05,120 and naturally i didn't uh check my oh i 55 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:10,080 didn't oh didn't plug in my 56 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:14,720 hd oh i'm sorry i just hit the mic oh oh bad people everyone with 57 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:19,199 headphones yeah rip rip everyone with headphones i'm sorry you guys 58 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:25,040 um there we go boom that's what it looks like so 59 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:28,800 AMD Radeon phases out 60 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,639 crossfire the crossfire brand that is 61 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:35,600 as multi-GPU gets more complicated 62 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,360 so in a nutshell what's going on here 63 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:45,120 they're just not saying crossfire anymore instead they're saying mgpu for 64 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,919 multi-GPU not to be confused with mobile GPU 65 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:52,400 and they're doing this for a reason related to directx 66 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:57,680 because apparently crossfire relates specifically to dx11 67 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:03,919 applications do you know about that yeah so i can can you drop this on us okay so 68 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:08,720 first of all crossfire uh the branding has always been confusing AMD has used 69 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:13,840 the crossfire brand for everything from 70 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:18,720 ancient x-800 class cards with like these weird 71 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,080 master slave dvi dongle nonsense things 72 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:25,680 hooked up to them all the way to um 73 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:27,919 no master slave relationship two three 74 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:31,520 or even four cards running in tandem with these bridges connected to them 75 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,120 it's more progressive and then and then they added an x 76 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:42,160 for like you know it's the usual thing x for 77 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:43,840 extreme x for that x factor x4 cross 78 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,600 fire again more crosses 79 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:53,120 you don't like this you know what try this you know what i don't even i don't even i don't even need i don't even need 80 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:57,520 all the comments about how i should get rid of you and bring back luke i want to 81 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:02,639 get look trust me we all want luke to be we all want luke to be here okay j james 82 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,960 more than anyone because he gets to be in the same building as luke when luke 83 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:11,440 is here doing the show oh um but one in 20 of those comments say 84 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:16,319 i'm okay thank you and there's still a chance and 85 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:19,759 if my doctor got five percent on his exam 86 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,039 well gee i wouldn't be here to tell you about what if my doctor got five percent 87 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:26,720 on his exam discount luke discount luke Yvonne's 88 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:32,080 pregnant again um okay so 89 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:35,120 wow that would be complicated um okay so basically they've branded a bunch of 90 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:40,639 different things a bunch of different ways crossfire has even been used to 91 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,720 describe running a craptastic 92 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:49,120 AMD add-in card with the onboard graphics on your 93 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:52,479 motherboard to make it slightly less 94 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,120 craptastic and it never made any sense 95 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:58,160 it was always stupid but not that's not to say that all crossfire was always 96 00:06:56,639 --> 00:07:04,000 stupid that particular one was always stupid but this branding has always been 97 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,599 really confusing so now 98 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:10,479 they're getting rid of the crossfire brand and if you want my honest opinion 99 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,919 um i think it's just because they don't want to take responsibility for it when 100 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:17,360 it just doesn't work but what does it have to do with apis okay so what it has 101 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:22,520 to do with apis is that directx 12 and vulkan are going 102 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:29,759 to support multi-GPU rendering in a different way 103 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:32,800 than previous apis so with directx's 9 104 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:35,919 to 11 the way that sli and crossfire 105 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,400 worked was via proprietary means enabled 106 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:42,639 through the graphics card manufacturer so the game engine 107 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:46,880 did have to support it but it didn't actually have to be explicitly coded in 108 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:51,520 by the game developer so you could actually take a game let's 109 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:56,400 say it used the unreal engine for example you could take some random game 110 00:07:54,080 --> 00:08:01,680 by some indie developer using the unreal engine and even if you had two cards and 111 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:06,639 you got no performance benefit from sli or crossfire whatsoever no scaling no 112 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,400 scaling at all what you could do is a lot of the time you could go into your 113 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:16,160 NVIDIA control panel you could manually enable some form of multi GPU rendering 114 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:19,440 rendering rendering be it alternate frame rendering or 115 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,199 i mean that's the most that's the most common one um 116 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,840 and you could apply it or you could apply a profile from a similar game also 117 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,960 using the unreal engine and boom you would have sli or crossfire scaling 118 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:38,080 it a lot of the time it would actually work okay to the extent that it worked 119 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:42,479 when it comes to directx 12 that's just not a thing so the way that 120 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:47,680 it's meant to be implemented with directx 12 in particular is by the game 121 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:53,600 developer so they are supposed to actually code into the game how it would 122 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:56,000 utilize multiple gpus in theory this 123 00:08:53,600 --> 00:09:00,640 would actually give you the flexibility to mix and match graphics cards 124 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,560 in practice i 125 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:08,720 personally think that this is basically the end 126 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:14,080 of multi-GPU outside of a very small number of of niche games 127 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:16,399 where the developer bothers to code it in 128 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:20,800 because that's how it is that's how it is right now there's only 129 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:25,120 ash is a singularity tomb raider there's only a handful does tomb raider even 130 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,240 scale well with mgpu i don't even know well it does better on directx 12 than 131 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:34,399 11. okay well there's only a few that do that so 132 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:38,959 so so pretty much there'll be those games that are as much benchmarks as 133 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:44,399 they are games where they actually put all of this support into it because what 134 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:48,240 they're trying to do is get like tech publications to use their game 135 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:52,640 as a benchmark which is basically free advertising for the game so as far as i 136 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:57,360 can tell a lot of game developers have finally clued in to the idea that 137 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:02,959 putting a baked in benchmark in the game is pretty much getting marketing for a 138 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:07,200 small investment in development time not to mention that it's just convenient for 139 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,720 the user no kidding um doom is the only newish game that we're featuring at all 140 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:16,640 in all of our videos we're still showing deus ex in 2014. yep so 141 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,839 so basically that's what i think i think AMD is changing the branding because 142 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,200 they just don't want to be associated with it not 143 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:28,720 working and but is mgpu really even new branding 144 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:33,839 or multi gp um it seems just more like the name for it 145 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:38,320 well that's exactly it is they're they're almost they're almost de-branding it 146 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:44,800 speaking of d brand this episode is brought to you by no actually 147 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,600 um so it's almost like they're just removing all their branding from it so 148 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:52,800 that they have to take no responsibility whatsoever when the experience sucks because game 149 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,320 developers don't bother because even now with the relatively 150 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:00,959 and to be clear i'm not saying that it's not a lot of work to like make a game or 151 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,440 whatever even with the relatively small amount of work that a developer has to 152 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,800 put in in order to have sli or crossfire work 153 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:11,040 properly a lot of games it's like really broken 154 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:17,200 so asking them to go several steps further and code it right 155 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,200 into the game yeah we'll see 156 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:23,519 i think you're right it's just gonna be over if everyone's not doing it there's no 157 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,880 when would you ever make that investment since it's the same cost as upgrading 158 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:30,320 your card you need me for two minutes 159 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:34,560 oh wow apparently you're on your own for two minutes oh again uh why don't you 160 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,800 talk about uh oh microsoft officially kills off 161 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:41,120 no you don't want to talk about microsoft killing this is your baby i'm 162 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:45,200 talking about wechat and the chinese government we chat in the chinese 163 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:49,120 government don't get political no no i don't need to get political you put this 164 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:54,240 in you we have the we have the best non-political podcast the best i called 165 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,720 up my friends they told me we had that's huge it was the best terrific the best 166 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,880 the greatest tremendous huge political content 167 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:08,000 earlier this week wechat confirmed wechat is a giant app 168 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:11,680 in the in china it's like whatsapp a bit but it's more of a super app 169 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,639 you can buy stuff on it i think it has mapping and a marketplace and stuff like 170 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:18,800 that huge in china wechat this week confirmed 171 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:24,480 what everyone was already thinking and that is that it actually sends a lot of 172 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:29,120 its users personal data right to the ruling regime the chinese government 173 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:35,360 so reading from the page here which i didn't do last week to awful effect 174 00:12:32,079 --> 00:12:38,000 wechat has over 662 million users 175 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:41,120 and in a recent privacy statement confirmed that virtually all of the 176 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,560 private user information will be disclosed to the chinese authorities 177 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:49,519 this became known during a recent update to the app users were required to accept 178 00:12:46,959 --> 00:12:53,519 the update or to accept the privacy policy in order to get the update and in 179 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:56,160 that policy it basically says all your bases are belong 180 00:12:55,279 --> 00:13:02,000 to us now there's a couple of scary parts to this hey max you sit down yeah 181 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,120 get in here okay i'm back no we don't want you you know what this is 182 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,880 the post line of scenario let's just get rid of james okay let's see okay no 183 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,639 we're still don't do this to me no no we're not gonna do it yet we're not gonna do it how dare you we're gonna 184 00:13:10,959 --> 00:13:15,600 straw pull it we're gonna straw pull it i didn't agree with the comments last 185 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:21,760 week that said Linus was a harsh mean boss but i'm on your side now 186 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:26,720 james you're max okay so it's uh 187 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 i'm out of here 188 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,079 um you're lucky it's not 5 45. 189 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:37,120 uh okay um 190 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,240 okay let's go ahead and create this poll here 191 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:43,760 okay let me just say one thing i'm dropping this dropping this in twitch 192 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:47,760 chat dropping this twitch show okay guys guys hold on you gotta you guys gotta 193 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:50,720 you guys gotta hit the uh the straw pool for me here okay let's drop pull straw 194 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:56,000 pull okay i can't believe he was a real girl 195 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:56,000 talk about the wechat thing 196 00:13:56,079 --> 00:13:58,800 so flaccid 197 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:05,519 here's the weird thing about this beijing aka the chinese government has 198 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:10,079 announced that their regulations will mandate that wechat users will be liable 199 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:13,040 and prosecuted for any information posted in the group 200 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:18,560 that the government considers objectionable i.e if you send a message to your buddy 201 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:22,800 about some something the government does not agree with oh 202 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:27,040 and that gets read by the authorities you can just go to jail 203 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,360 that's pretty dope hey have you heard about tiananmen square i just like 204 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:35,120 stumbled apost across this website that i shouldn't have been on and learned 205 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,720 about it the authorities find that out you're just 206 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,000 black helicopters going to jail i mean 207 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,440 theoretically it could happen it's a little tin foil hattie but is it we're 208 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:51,199 not guaranteeing that it would happen but uh i i think that to say 209 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:56,160 that this is anything other than deeply disturbing would be um 210 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,519 would be objectively incorrect it may not happen but if the language is vague 211 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,800 then it could happen and that's what's scary yep 212 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:07,120 all right so let's go ahead and have a look at the results here no so let's uh 213 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:16,160 screen share wow 76 max 24 Linus so james gets zero votes 214 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:18,320 with zero votes whatsoever zero percent 215 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:23,519 you done goof can you believe james got zero percent of the vote how much of a 216 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:28,079 percent does it count for one vote you voted james you are clearly full of 217 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,959 crap because there is no james option on the poll 218 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:33,760 which i did on purpose it's all james okay okay max come on in you're doing a 219 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:39,680 topic yes i know so many things about topics 75 75 of the audience wants max to come 220 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:44,240 in okay let's see do you want do you wanna no no no you're 221 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,920 out you're up okay so max do you want do you want like a softball topic or do you 222 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,320 want like a uh no i don't mean literally softball 223 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:56,480 because i don't know anything about sports either okay no i mean like i meant like an easy topic not actually 224 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:01,440 like you know i do you know that kind of thing uh or do you 225 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:03,040 want like a hardcore tech topic oh nope 226 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:09,680 nope you really don't okay you want a softball yes okay uh how about um 227 00:16:07,839 --> 00:16:14,880 let's see razer confirms development of a 228 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:18,639 gamer-oriented mobile device so what he said 229 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:23,600 okay hold on hold on okay what about like the amazon echo okay 230 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:28,560 i literally d how does this format work 231 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:31,199 okay um usb group announced us announces 232 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:35,360 usb 3.2 where are you seeing all of this okay so 233 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:40,000 okay so she's more of a camera person uh here why don't we go with um let's go 234 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:43,360 with polaroid's new camera okay okay let's talk about polaroid's new 235 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:47,680 camera it's not actually on the dock but we can we can discuss this okay okay the 236 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,920 original article here is from the verge the first polaroid instinct camera in a 237 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:54,639 decade is according to the verge adorable 238 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:59,360 this is it this is the polaroid camera can you 239 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:04,720 imagine in this day and age spending a hundred dollars on a polaroid camera 240 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:07,839 bearing in mind that we're not talking it looks like a polaroid camera by the 241 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:12,160 way you should come a little closer do i smell that though no i'm just like you're just you're out of the frame uh 242 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,679 she's a camera person but the frame concept she's still working behind the 243 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:20,480 camera yeah i i know it's confusing isn't it yeah okay so bearing in mind it 244 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:25,439 doesn't just look like a polaroid camera like an adorable digital camera this is 245 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:30,880 actually a polaroid camera the eye type film packets are 16 per 246 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,200 pack for eight color or black and white 247 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:40,720 exposures that's rough 248 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:42,240 does this have a place in 2017 okay well 249 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:46,880 film is huge now like i have a film camera it costs 16 250 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:51,840 for you to develop and get digital prints like emailed to you or whatever 251 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:55,919 why would you do that okay i'm glad we are talking about this what the hell 252 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,520 uh yeah i don't know it's just like it's a look you know what i mean like it has 253 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,480 like a specific like feel to it and there's like 254 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,480 it's just it's just a thing it's just a thing that you do 255 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:09,760 so it's like an artsy artsy nerd thing i get 256 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:14,240 i guess yeah okay okay so then but what about the polaroid camera that's really 257 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:19,120 expensive sixteen dollars two dollars a photo 258 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:22,080 uh yeah and that's probably us dollars so we're 259 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:27,600 talking like two dollars and thirty canadian rupees 260 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:31,760 that's too much 240 2.4 canadian rupees whatever it works out to yeah no see 261 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,520 that's like okay but what about the okay because if 262 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:41,039 we're going to talk about taking a picture with a specific type of camera 263 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:43,280 just to get like a a a filmic aesthetic 264 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:47,679 that like all the cool kids are doing don't you think all the cool kids could 265 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,640 get into polaroid cameras instant we instant cameras have been around like 266 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,400 literally always we have those little cute ones you know the little like color 267 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,120 pastel ones and they come out with like the tiny you know i hate you young 268 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:03,360 people instant cameras have been around literally always 269 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,640 do you know how much that hurts i'm sorry i mean like 270 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,799 literally always for like a really long time 271 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:14,400 since i was born anyway brandon and i actually like went half seas on this 272 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:17,760 polaroid printer that he's gonna go get 273 00:19:15,919 --> 00:19:22,160 okay all right okay tell me about it okay so you have like this app on your 274 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:26,559 phone and you can choose any photo from this app 275 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:32,880 unbox therapy did it and uh thanks vanna yeah thank you 276 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,559 uh yeah carry on so yeah you basically like connect us to your phone via 277 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,480 bluetooth okay and then you choose any photo you want on your phone 278 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:43,679 and then you like you can even like add filters like they're little things that 279 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,600 you can do you can print straight from your instagram on that thing 280 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:54,320 and it's incredible and it has like it's those little ones it's like the half size ones yeah so you called it polaroid 281 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:56,480 but it's actually made by fujifilm 282 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:00,320 gotta go okay so so basically how much does this 283 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:05,120 cost is this it's just an inkjet printer or like is it 150 284 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:11,280 200. so 200 bucks and then how much are the refills 10 bucks 285 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:13,120 10 for 12. 10 for it's like yeah 286 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:17,200 and is that canadian rupees or is that okay so so about eight dollars u.s for 287 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:22,240 what 10 or 12 exposures whatever it is so okay so as long as you're going to 288 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:24,960 print more than 120 pictures this is a 289 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:29,280 better value yeah plus you get to choose which one you want to like print so you 290 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,679 can take like a million selfies on your phone right and then you pick the right 291 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:37,360 one and you print it out and you're like oh i casually first try but nobody has to you know you 292 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,559 can add filters and whatever like i said so so if i'm to understand the sort of 293 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:46,960 the the artsy person perspective on this the problem with the polaroid camera is 294 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:50,799 that you might frame your selfie wrong and that's the advantage of this 295 00:20:53,280 --> 00:21:00,840 it's just like i don't know i think it's better it's definitely more portable as well then like you know 296 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:06,240 like when is vhs coming back never are you sure 297 00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:10,080 like how sure are you that vhs is not because because if if we need little 298 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:14,640 mini photo printers like this and if polaroid is releasing a new instant film 299 00:21:12,159 --> 00:21:17,280 camera but like that's you can decorate with that and it's like 300 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:22,640 physical memories that you can give to your friends you're not going to give your friend a vhs 301 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:24,640 tape because then they need a vhs player 302 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,840 you know this is just tiny little it's like the player is your 303 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:36,799 eyeballs right yeah i've had enough of your crap Colton you know what a vhs is 304 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:40,720 all right oh i dropped your uh printer thing that you went half season um okay 305 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:45,360 all right well thank you max that was fun and uh basically no polaroid camera 306 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:51,440 no right no well you're thinking about it now 307 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:54,799 it's growing on you i i knew it i knew this was going to happen they have ones 308 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,799 that you can get at like nordstrom can i say that something yeah sure driver that 309 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:03,120 you can like buy that they're like uh refurbished they're about 150 us 310 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:08,559 and those are like legitimate if you're really gonna go hipster you shouldn't buy like the new old because it looks 311 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:12,720 like a toy if you're gonna get a polaroid camera so 312 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:18,159 you don't so the issue is not the polaroid camera it looks kind of silly 313 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:19,039 the issue is the look of the camera 314 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:24,640 yeah that too because if you want to do it you gotta look cool and it genuinely 315 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:28,799 does look like like one of those fake ones that you would give to a three-year-old yeah oh yeah sure take 316 00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:34,080 photos see this this is why this is why i don't 317 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:40,400 get it a lot of the time i get all wrapped up in like specs and 318 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:42,480 megapixels and like camera launch time 319 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:47,919 and and i ignore things like well this 320 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:53,440 trendy retro camera is sort of real retro and this trendy retro 321 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,480 camera is like not real retro so 322 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,760 cool yeah did you just destroy me i don't i think 323 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,919 we're both destroyed at this point thank you max james you can come back 324 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:11,600 Linus doesn't get it confirmed says twitch chat perfect 325 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:17,280 that's what i need on my friday thanks max you're welcome 326 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:21,039 not to out hipster max but i don't think you can buy a hipster camera at 327 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:23,919 nordstrom a corporate chain you need to go to a vintage store to be a real 328 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:29,679 hipster she doesn't live in vancouver she lives 329 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:32,640 who cares 330 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:36,559 oh go lordy okay all right let's move on to our next topic um what did you want 331 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:40,159 to talk about oh you wanted to talk about microsoft officially killing off 332 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:44,080 skype for business okay the original article here is from 333 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:47,360 the verge i know you were really passionate about 334 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:52,720 this topic james microsoft teams is replacing skype for 335 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:57,760 business to put more pressure on competitor slack all right fill us in 336 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,559 i know this this one was really dear to your heart can't even find it do you 337 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:04,320 have you used teams question number one no i haven't used 338 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:09,360 teams okay our office is not moving to teams i 339 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:11,600 don't think no it's not okay 340 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:16,480 do you have a burning hatred for skype for business i do i do yes i do 341 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:21,520 why is that okay so the problem with skype for business 342 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,880 is that it's not actually skype is that okay yes there's that one it is for 343 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:29,440 business so they have that going for them are we 344 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:35,279 a business we are a business but we are a business that actually has 345 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:42,080 office 365 subscriptions for all of its members 346 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,559 but the office 365 doesn't include skype 347 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:49,840 for business unless you get the stupid premium one so skype for business was 348 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:54,080 kind of like the social network 349 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,440 that requires everyone else to be on the same social 350 00:24:56,159 --> 00:25:03,919 network except it was expensive 351 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,159 and it had no benefit as far as i could tell 352 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:11,039 over other options 353 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:13,840 apparently teams is giving slack some sweat 354 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,360 yeah slack is they're actually giving them sweat i 355 00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:21,919 don't think they're really sweating and then they're going over to the the slack 356 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:27,080 office and they're like here's our sweat that is disgusting you are disgusting 357 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,799 okay so i think that slack basically had all the market share 358 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:36,720 and when i say that they're sweating i don't mean that like it's 50 50. now 359 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,760 that microsoft teams exists because like let's be honest 360 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:44,880 but it's enough and they're getting some cool new features so the ability to hold calls 361 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:49,840 the ability to transfer calls they're getting voicemail which is like 362 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:54,799 it's like it's like when are we gonna do away with voicemail and go back to 363 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:58,799 little analog tapes that fit in your answering machine when will my apple 364 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:02,720 watch be a watch um and audio conferencing 365 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,559 so i don't think i've never used slack that way maybe the 366 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:11,279 group checking does does slack have voice calling or i've only ever used the 367 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:15,520 chatting and there's there's bots to my knowledge slack doesn't have voice 368 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:21,279 calling so this is sounds like it's like skype plus slack so if they outstrip 369 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:27,840 slack in lots of ways they claimed at their unveil to have 125 370 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:31,919 000 businesses using teams like in the first six months of rollout 371 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:35,440 okay so no they apparently um apparently you can make calls and slacks so i know 372 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,880 luke uses slack i actually i wish 373 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:43,279 far more than i already did that luke was here because luke actually has 374 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:47,840 extensive experience with slack um and he has been using it with the float 375 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:50,000 plane team for quite some time but um 376 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,919 yeah there you go you can make calls and pretty much the problem with skype for 377 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:58,159 business aside from just not really having a compelling value ad 378 00:26:55,919 --> 00:27:01,760 and not being intercompatible with skype that's the biggest thing like the fact 379 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:06,080 that you had to go and install skype for business on your computer then the the 380 00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:09,440 login didn't cross over either and how confusing is that when they share the 381 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,880 same name if you've never used or heard of skype for business before and someone 382 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:17,120 says they're gonna call you on it yeah you the time for the meeting arrives you log 383 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,760 into your skype and you're like where are they that literally happened here 384 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:25,600 that literally has happened to me quite a few times because 385 00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:30,080 using skype for business would only ever come up if the other business 386 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:35,360 happened to be like stuck on skype for business 387 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:38,640 like everyone else just uses something 388 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:40,400 that you can call into like uh what's um 389 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,559 what's their like go-to meeting or whatever yeah where you can just call in 390 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,480 with a landline or you can call in with whatever but skype for 391 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,000 business to do that so yeah so teams is looking like so it's 392 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,520 actually using the same back end as skype for business um but it's going to 393 00:27:54,080 --> 00:28:00,559 be losing the skype branding and it's gonna be getting some some fun new features so skype for business is gonna 394 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,159 be around for the next one year yeah october 2018 and it's going to be 395 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,039 interoperable with teams throughout that period 396 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:12,320 so that's kind of nice for like the 10 people who use skype for business 397 00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:17,120 what the heck are people talking about oh everyone wants max back by the way of 398 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:22,720 course um he's better looking than me stream for youtube is down stream for 399 00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:23,840 youtube is down 400 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:28,799 what i'm so confused 401 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:34,000 i am so very confused right now you know you twitch chat people 402 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:39,279 you guys are adorable all right let's talk about something james really wants 403 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:44,559 to talk about the snes mini so this was originally posted overall by 404 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:51,120 wm groom ak on the forum and the original article is from overclock3d.net 405 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:54,960 it looks like nintendo's snes mini 406 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,679 may actually use the same hardware as 407 00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:04,080 the nest mini the exact same so we might be just getting a new shell 408 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:06,000 some new game roms and actually the same 409 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,320 hardware check out this picture 410 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:13,679 like wow people are upset 411 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:16,799 so why are they upset two reasons 412 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:20,480 okay number one everything here makes sense from 413 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:24,240 nintendo's perspective yes but just doesn't make sense according to the laws 414 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:29,679 of the universe the nes the snes no the nest mini 415 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,039 classic like the last one got cancelled 416 00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:36,159 now we know that that didn't actually have to happen because they obviously are they're still making the same parts 417 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,080 on the same fabs they didn't have to make it an exclusive limited time only 418 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,039 thing but they did they just hate money as far as i can tell no this makes you 419 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:48,640 more money it's like why doesn't mcdonald's have the rib which all the time no it doesn't make you more money 420 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:53,679 it has influxes of demand when it comes out well yeah but that assumes that they're 421 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:57,440 gonna re-release the nest mini i think it says that they will 422 00:29:55,679 --> 00:30:01,200 it may not be in the notes but i think like next summer they're going to do 423 00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,200 that again 424 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,600 the second reason is that they could have made the super nests all the time 425 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:11,760 the whole time they had the hardware requisite to make the superintendent and 426 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:15,039 only now they're giving it to us okay so a thing we wanted for all the 427 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:20,799 time we could have had and the thing we still want now we can't have any more but nintendo has the power and we're 428 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,360 like they're prisoners okay so i'm gonna okay i'm gonna play devil's advocate a 429 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,440 little bit here what was your first argument again i don't remember i wasn't really paying 430 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,919 attention they cancelled production uh yes they so they stopped production of 431 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:36,080 the nes minion so i i uh okay yeah i really don't have a 432 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,320 justification for that one okay as for the snes mini not being released right 433 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:44,320 away that makes a ton of sense because from a marketing perspective you want to 434 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:47,679 you want it yeah you want to have products to roll out you want people to 435 00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:52,080 have something to spend their disposable income on this month and then if you 436 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:57,279 release you're basically fighting yourself don't make them choose yeah don't make them 437 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,000 choose you know wait till they've gotten a few more paychecks and then release 438 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:06,640 something else the other side of that argument that i'm going to devil's advocate a little bit 439 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,799 here is that while obviously 440 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,640 nintendo didn't run out and like develop a bunch of new games for this nest mini 441 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,159 because that would be besides the point 442 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:21,600 um it's not like there wasn't going to be some development they had to do 443 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:24,399 because this is now this is not a janky 444 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,480 rom running on zed snazz on your old laptop 445 00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:31,360 that doesn't even have a modem in it so 446 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:36,320 literally copying like roms over on that 16 meg thumb 447 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:42,399 drive that one of your friends in high school gave you because he's a super cool dude and he like you know went back 448 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:47,039 to china before we had usb thumb drives here in north america 449 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:52,000 um well because uh uh anyway the point is you know this 450 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:56,080 this is not some you know and oh right so then you have to use your usb drive 451 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:59,120 on your desktop to copy your roms over to this laptop and then you take the 452 00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:02,799 laptop around with you but it actually doesn't really have like a working battery anymore so you have to be 453 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:09,840 plugged in you know totally hypothetical story um so it's 454 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:15,039 gonna work good it's supposed to work properly so they actually do need to 455 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:20,159 spend some time presumably doing some testing 456 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,399 making sure everything is smooth now 457 00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:28,960 to be clear it's not like you know ness or snes emulators running 458 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,799 on you know armed cpus is anything new 459 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,760 at all but there's just some validation to be done before they can actually 460 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:39,919 release a product like this they've gotta create box art which you know you might 461 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:42,559 not think about as a consumer in terms of 462 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,960 like whatever it's it's box art who cares you 463 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:52,399 throw some art on a box like what's wrong with you but you actually have to 464 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:58,000 factor in okay you know which company is producing it what colors and 465 00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:59,760 what can they put the the nintendo seal 466 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,120 foil on it can they do this can they do that when can when can they meet the 467 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,200 order when can they print them when will that be delivered to the factory to be 468 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:11,360 packaged to like there's a lot and if you're a business entity with limited 469 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:15,600 resources and you're just going to take this workload and spread it out over 470 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:19,279 time so the way to do that is have the old one and then the next one not to 471 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,440 mention that there's things like fcc validation that you or ul certification 472 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:27,440 that you have to go through for any electronic device and you're gonna 473 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:34,159 you're just gonna kill yourself trying to do everything all at once and then like 474 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,720 so try to like design all the hardware all at once and then try to build all 475 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:40,960 those software well they did do all the harder ones okay yes that they did and 476 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,000 then try to build all the software and all the ui crap and do all the 477 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,559 validation at once and then they're marketing deal with all the submissions 478 00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:51,840 for like regulatory approval all at once then do all the marketing all at once no 479 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,399 it's stupid so they're working on 480 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:59,519 a little tiny n64 i hope so 481 00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:02,880 and the 24 would be pretty cool 482 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:05,039 although snes is as the as sort of the 483 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:09,119 console of my childhood actually that is my favorite concept but there are other 484 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:14,560 childhoods that came after yours yeah but i don't care about those 485 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,159 so my my nostalgia has been totally 486 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,760 taken care of at this point follow-up question if they did a re-release of a 487 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:22,639 little n64 which means they're manufacturing new controllers do you 488 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,000 think they would still have the joystick that had this string 489 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:29,119 that got loose you know the n64 controller joystick got loose 490 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:33,679 over time and it sucked or do you think that they would modernize that in 491 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,800 that implementation and if they did would it change how you 492 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,599 played those old games 493 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:46,560 you know what i don't know if nintendo would admit 494 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,560 they ever did it wrong 495 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:53,119 and if they did it differently wouldn't it kill the nostalgia 496 00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:00,400 like i okay so this is really going to be polarizing this is almost drawable 497 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,800 okay let's let's hit this i think this is going to be divisive 498 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:08,079 like if you're going to nostalgia out on n64 do you want to go to your buddy's 499 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,520 house and he gives you the crappier controller that's loose and you're like oh 500 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,400 or do you want to be on even playing field like you should have been in 501 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,079 all the time okay so i'm creating the poll 502 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:28,359 and then while we wait for people to respond to the poll why don't we go ahead and uh hit them with some sponsors 503 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:38,640 i just spammed that chat like nobody's gonna get banned sponsor number one 504 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:45,599 today oh wow that's my favorite one your favorite freshbooks yes books so 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would have taken any port in a storm 526 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,160 how how how 527 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:24,160 how much regret do you have for eating that enormous 528 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:30,480 piece of i think it was the uh the was it the 529 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,880 ghost pepper or the reaper 530 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:37,359 i just thought it was the hottest one and the answer to either one is no 531 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,200 regrets no regrets it's a sponsor and people are supposed to buy this stuff 532 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:44,240 because you were you were relatively okay at the here you can have something 533 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:47,440 all right you're okay at the time no you don't want any 534 00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:52,960 oh that's right you're vegetarian aren't you mostly mostly all right all right 535 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:58,240 all right so um i'm going for the team some my wife's 536 00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:01,440 dad's a hunter he shoots moose i eat them that's good 537 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:05,520 he doesn't make jerky though you did the ghost pepper yeah why not is 538 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,839 that the hottest one or is that the reaper it's the second hottest one 539 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:15,200 it's got quite a kick though the problem though was not eating it 540 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:20,160 the problem was that enormous peace that you ate at one time because i got a text 541 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:23,599 message from this guy hours later i think it might even the next morning 542 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,480 actually that savage jerky though 543 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,520 yeah it was actually the way it sat in my stomach 544 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:36,800 i felt pretty bad until i put a bunch of food in there after leaving 545 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,720 so savage jerky it's 546 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:42,320 savage it's spicy it's like 547 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:47,920 real deal like you were like yeah i can handle spicy was that spicy it was spicy 548 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:51,599 it was the spiciest jerky i've ever had it's made with the great ingredients 549 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,520 without nitrates or preservatives the goal was to create a snack that was full 550 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:59,359 of flavor full of flavor is spicy flavor 551 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,359 you can't taste it when it's that spicy but okay one of these days i rest 552 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:08,480 assured the other flavors are tasty a lot of them are really tasty the uh the 553 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,680 maple bacon is really good um 554 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,680 the uh oh man the uh what's the green one 555 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:19,280 whatever the green one is i highly recommend the green one um 556 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,280 but anyway they've got uh broccoli what the green one no not the the green 557 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,359 jerky um they've got 13 different flavors so 558 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:32,640 go check them out and also they make barbecue sauce hot 559 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,400 sauce and a spice rub so their carolina reaper hot sauce uses one of the hottest 560 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:41,119 peppers in the world the uh 561 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,720 the james the the bell pepper no the carolina reaper pepper so use offer code 562 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:52,640 LTT and get 10 off over at savage jerky.com 563 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,880 now let's go back to our straw pool i am 564 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,320 really interested to see these results i'm betting on don't fix it 565 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:03,280 fix it wow sweet 566 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:07,760 okay so you're with them right yeah i think if they refresh it they 567 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:11,760 should just use the same joystick mechanism using 568 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:15,280 like a gamecube controller for example interesting even though 569 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:19,760 you know if you're firing up some perfect dark or whatever 570 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,240 it might be a slightly different experience 571 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,920 i would hope i have never like side by side a b test 572 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:31,200 of this but i would hope that a fresh 64 controller the feel of that joystick is 573 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:36,960 similar to like a normal playstation or gamecube or xbox controller's joystick 574 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:41,520 so do you think that's pretty loose from the beginning no when you got a new 575 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,160 snappy one it was like yes when you got like get one for your 576 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,880 birthday or something like that but how they degraded so poorly over time it 577 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,160 was sometimes unplayable and if you're player four you always got that one and 578 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,800 then you have to buy another one and like if they could just avoid that whole thing again that'd be great james tell 579 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:01,760 me something tell me about your childhood 580 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:04,960 were you player four do you look if you don't want to talk 581 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:08,800 about it buddy it's okay but but were you player four 582 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,280 sometimes 583 00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:20,319 i had two friends who are exceptionally good gamers and uh i got slayed every single time at 584 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,160 smash bros and goldeneye but i was good 585 00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:25,440 at perfect dark okay so that 586 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:29,040 that's a big load of bull crap oh someone mixed them up again 587 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,480 was i not not actually hmm that's a really 588 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:39,200 tasty one actually now i don't even know what i'm eating though dang it 589 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,720 they're all good so my friend you know what 590 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,640 i'm gonna use his name because he's a dick um 591 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:51,359 and he deserves it so my friend tyson in high school 592 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:54,960 this guy would have me over to his house the guy had a playstation one 593 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,400 playstation two oh yeah right that's the camping battle 594 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,839 station's house okay so guys got a playstation one gotta 595 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:07,359 play station i was living with my mom 596 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:10,160 we didn't own a game console at all 597 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:14,839 computer yes game console no um don't you have like six brothers and sisters 598 00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:18,800 yeah and you shared one pc yes i was the nerd though like no one 599 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:24,079 else really wanted to use it that much until my until my little sister discovered habbo hotel you guys wouldn't 600 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:28,640 like this i love to have a hotel for a time terrible anyway 601 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,160 so i um so i go over to his house all the time 602 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,720 he's got playstations i got no console at all 603 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,400 this guy he sits and plays tekken 604 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:44,800 like all the time and like what was that um what was that 605 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:46,720 uh car game that a twisted metal twist 606 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,240 tekken okay so he plays these games all the time 607 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:53,920 i show up i'm clearly already at a disadvantage because i i barely play 608 00:42:52,560 --> 00:43:00,079 them i only play when i'm over at his house and like with him so he clearly 609 00:42:56,839 --> 00:43:01,920 has my if my experience is x he clearly 610 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:07,359 has x plus y yeah he's a big nerd so i'm pretty sure 611 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:12,480 his y is quite large um and he gives me 612 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:15,520 not just a worn out controller he gives 613 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,480 me this like total [ __ ] mode 614 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:23,359 like third party controller uh like a madcatz or something with an ant no not 615 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:28,800 even a mad cat no not even dollar store like the brand broke dick doesn't exist 616 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:34,160 okay not only that but it has the analog stick broken off so what do you mean 617 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,920 broken so one of the analog sticks is a stump 618 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:42,560 and the entire thing is like the least like it's like this wide and my hands 619 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:46,160 like even now my hands couldn't fit on it you're talking about ps1 620 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:49,280 where analog was optional the default control didn't have sticks i don't 621 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:54,319 remember yeah it must be because twisted middle must be ps2 then 622 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:58,560 the point is he makes me use this [ __ ] controller because he doesn't want to 623 00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,680 invest in another playstation controller which i get he's a child he should give 624 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:08,560 me the good one and he was not a child he was like 13. 625 00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:10,000 did he have a paper route 626 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,520 no but he should give me the good controller all right but he can't invest 627 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:16,560 investing when your kid is like my birthday is here 628 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,359 he should still give me the better controller i'm a guest in his house 629 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,560 and i suck at the game he should play with the crappy control that's an adult 630 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,960 perspective as a kid you're basically a little animal 631 00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:32,079 well and it's way of the road but yeah 632 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:36,560 get nerfed do you think when you played uh bond 633 00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:40,640 goldeneye when you choose your characters obviously you have an advantage if your odd job because he's 634 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,480 really small and people have to crouch to hit him or aim down and aiming down sucked because they only had one 635 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:48,000 joystick do you think other than odd job that the 636 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,720 characters that you chose in goldeneye were actually balanced or that bond had 637 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:57,119 just a slight edge bond had a one more health bar it was a 638 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,839 little faster do you think bond was different only one of my friends had 639 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,200 golden eye um getting better friends man yeah i 640 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,240 know one of my friends had goldeneye and i didn't go over to his house very much 641 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:11,680 and as you know i didn't own any consoles during that time straw poll so 642 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:16,480 um well no i actually am straw pulling a far more important question should the 643 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,560 guest get the better controller this is far more important not if you want to 644 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:23,760 win if you're the host no of course you're going to win anyway you play 645 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:30,240 like i went through this with luke when um mario kart launched for the wii u 646 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:35,760 and we played it together like once like pretty early on i think and then 647 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,880 the guy's like playing it constantly and he goes and he pulls this whole telling 648 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,640 himself that he's unlocking all the characters and everyone should be 649 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,800 grateful but then you can't play with him because he's one of those hopeless 650 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:51,200 people that plays like party games by themselves so they can kick everybody's 651 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,920 butt at the party that's not fun that's not a party 652 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,760 the best party gaming experience 653 00:45:56,079 --> 00:46:02,800 the best party gaming experience has come when nobody is good at the game 654 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,960 when everybody's playing some crap game that nobody ever heard i once won a 655 00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:10,960 mario party mario party competition at a real party and it was the mario party 656 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,880 game where you have to shake the pop did you get invited to real time as much 657 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,079 you gotta shake the most like this it's funny he called it a real party that's 658 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,640 sad it was a real party because it was hosted by girls it was a real party it 659 00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:27,280 was real this is why it was real it was in college one it was in residence no 660 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:32,240 parents it was hosted by women and because at the end of the tournament 661 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,680 it was me against the girl and i won the whole time throughout the tournament i 662 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:42,400 was using my right hand i'm left-handed took her out special weapon 663 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,400 so you princess brightened her boom if 664 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,839 she if she beat all the guys at that do you not get the reference i've seen the 665 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,240 movie no no no no no this is how you feel when 666 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:58,800 i do wayne's world references no you do this every friday you can't have 667 00:46:55,119 --> 00:47:01,280 seen the princess bride 668 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,920 the princess bride is a fundamental cornerstone of our culture 669 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:09,200 you okay you're three or four years older than me 670 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:14,079 i don't remember yeah when you get older your memory 671 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:14,079 starts to that's the difference 672 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:20,400 all right you know what why don't we just do a tech topic because i've had enough of your bull crap can we do 673 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:26,000 amazon they surprised everyone this week six new hardware products out of nowhere 674 00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:28,000 who cares it's just more like digital 675 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:32,640 assistance it's because you're in canada and you can't use them no you don't care 676 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,280 right we should so are you we should have someone in the states who 677 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:41,040 just has this stuff and just just reviews amazon corresponding 678 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,640 all right so the original article here is from techcrunch 679 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:49,760 um so there's there's more echo hardware 680 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:53,040 there's more echo hardware echo hardware echo hardware 681 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:58,960 uh the new echo is a refresher the original it's smaller it's a hundred dollars it's got a cloth covered body it 682 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,960 has a dedicated woofer and tweeter but this is okay aside from the products 683 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:06,079 that they introduced it's so interesting in the in their business model and the 684 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:10,000 way that amazon works which is completely different to how any other 685 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:14,079 hardware manufacturer works there's not six google homes there will 686 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,760 be another one next week but you know what i mean 687 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:22,880 they just launched six there's like one with a screen one without a screen this big one a tall one there's there's so 688 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:27,280 many and they're all dirt cheap why do they do that how do they do that why 689 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:27,280 doesn't anyone else do that 690 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:34,480 i know why they do that go ahead let me tell you 691 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:37,760 it's because amazon has so many different parts to their business all 692 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:41,760 these parts are interconnected and actually create a positive feedback loop 693 00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:45,760 with each other so they can sell these hardware products dirt cheap because the 694 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:49,359 point isn't to make all their revenue from selling these hardware products 695 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:52,880 their point is to get people using amazon echo to order things on prime to 696 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:56,319 spend more money in their core business which is selling stuff on amazon.com i'm 697 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,839 not actually convinced that their core business is selling stuff on amazon.com 698 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,680 aren't they still losing money on that like with prime 699 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:09,119 i only have to order like two things here in canada to just like 700 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:13,280 wreck amazon on prime but you're an outlier because amazon's 701 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:18,400 data shows that prime customers on average spend twelve hundred dollars a 702 00:49:14,839 --> 00:49:20,880 year 1200 a year yeah but that doesn't 703 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:24,880 change that that prime customer could be 704 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,559 like they could be losing a ton of money on that prime membership on just 1200 of 705 00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:33,760 orders like you order a couple computer cases and they're like they're done like 706 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:37,920 they're done for what they're charging for prime um 707 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:42,000 i mean i think honestly i think they're core business from the shipping cost 708 00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:45,280 data you're getting free shipping aws is a huge part of the business i think it's 709 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:48,880 like a third of it now and they have all the market share in that space and not 710 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:53,760 just aws but just knowing what people are buying 711 00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:59,200 understanding the consumer because right now like amazon is like 712 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,880 it's like the silicon valley startup which they are of course but like the 713 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,359 silicon valley startup like on steroids well they're the one that made it 714 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:10,720 through the dot-com bubble yeah where they just they just never actually exit 715 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:14,000 startup mode oh yeah they just keep making their business like worth 716 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:18,000 more and more and more and it doesn't actually matter how much money they make 717 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,839 because it's sort of irrelevant and then once they've just crowded out everybody 718 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:24,880 else then they just 719 00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:29,520 crank all the prices and they're like yep how's that 720 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:32,079 come at me i know it will it might i mean right now they're still in startup 721 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:36,800 mode so they go and acquire whole foods and i slash all the prices 722 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:42,160 but it benefits consumers for now for now 723 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:44,480 for the time yeah until like 724 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:48,319 when amazon merges with costco then we're all done for it um 725 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:52,240 that'll be the that'll actually be the end the end of time 726 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:56,240 you know the end times whatever it's called the dark times into something 727 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,920 down the reckoning so there's a new echo there's an echo plus 728 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:04,319 which is the same as the original but now it's a smart home hub it's beefed up 729 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:07,359 how many people have smart home crap well that's the thing so what amazon 730 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:11,920 does is they they put a little fishing line out that 731 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,680 was the echo they see how well it does and then if it makes money or there's 732 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:19,200 interest or a market's developing they just hammer it and that's what they're 733 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,079 doing now with these race to the bottom priced 734 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:26,720 like deluge of products there's six of them they're beating apple and google to 735 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:30,160 the punch here at the at the google event which we're gonna cover next 736 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:34,319 wednesday morning i think google is planning on 737 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:38,079 we know they're announcing a small google home but there's speculation that 738 00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:41,760 they are also going to release one with a screen on it that can make 739 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:46,240 video calls and watch netflix which is a direct response to the echo show 740 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:50,640 so this is a hardware tech space 741 00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:54,400 other than ebooks i guess our e-readers where amazon actually has a lead over 742 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:57,920 like the biggest players so they're trying to grab market share it's a land 743 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:03,040 grab yeah so pricing wise everything from 99 to 744 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:07,119 130 for the echo spot which is kind of like a crossover 745 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:10,720 between the dot and the show smart alarm clock that can make video 746 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,599 calls i mean basically yeah so the idea is they want these things all over your 747 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:18,720 house echo button is 20 bucks a pair hockey puck sized 748 00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:23,599 pairs with the echo and it's like an interplay for like trivia games 749 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:26,640 yeah so you can interact with it it's 10 bucks 750 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:34,000 i just i really do think i'm losing touch like i'm getting old-fashioned 751 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,960 check out the echo spot though or which one of these 752 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,200 there's one that has a speaker on it that's oh it's the fire tv now i can't 753 00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:45,040 believe that being willing to take your phone out of your pocket to look 754 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:50,319 something up is old-fashioned now don't you want to be able to use it when 755 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,319 you're cooking and your hands are wet 756 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:58,240 my phone's waterproof get on my level but you can't swipe 757 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,240 it's called an apron 758 00:52:58,839 --> 00:53:05,680 apron i can picture you in or a tea towel who 759 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:09,119 cares oh it's so annoying because bixby as you'll see in our upcoming video you 760 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:12,240 can control the actual interface like bixby swipe left how sweet is it just 761 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:17,200 have your recipe up there your chocolate stuff bixby scroll down you can see the 762 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,760 next part of the recipe awesome hey siri 763 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:26,400 oh for crying out loud see this this is why 764 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:30,319 this is this is the problem with all this stuff none of it works the way you 765 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,040 expect okay here's something you like a little 766 00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:38,960 you like you have an opinion on this right the fire siri apologized 767 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:44,240 i don't need friends who apologize they got a new fire t 4k it's 70. 768 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:51,599 that's a hundred dollars less than the apple tv 4k wow get rekt apple 100 less 769 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:55,040 it's the same price as a chromecast 4k okay 770 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,480 all right i just i have such a hard time caring 771 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:02,559 about that um speaking of things i have a hard time caring about 772 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:06,880 um numlock21 posted this on the forum the original article is from guru 3d you 773 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,440 don't care about this is this is exactly the kind of thing that gets your blood 774 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:15,599 russian actually no what am i supposed to do with 20 gigabit 775 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:20,319 usb stuff fast 776 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,400 yeah like what do stuff fast 777 00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:26,480 what what stuff am i doing taking stuff off of external stuff 778 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,240 putting out other stuff why would i be doing that you're a camera person i have 779 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:35,440 a nas you're a camera person okay 780 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,720 what am i okay okay okay okay in the 781 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:41,920 future so can we just introduce this this is 782 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:45,839 pretty cool so basically it's an update to the usb 3 spec 783 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:50,640 that will allow what would be a 5 gigabit line to carry 784 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:56,400 10 gigabit per second and what would be 10 to carry up to 20. so it is a 785 00:54:53,440 --> 00:55:01,119 doubling of the bandwidth this will be done by adding two lane 786 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,720 operation over existing usbc cables so 787 00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:05,680 provided the cables have been certified for 10 gigabit per second super speed 788 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,480 usb then this will work however both the 789 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:15,240 host and the client need to be compatible with the new standard so theoretically 790 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:21,839 20 gigabit per second we're talking like 2500 megabytes per second so let's say 791 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:24,480 hypothetically that some you know camera 792 00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:28,800 manufacturer that thinks they're just way too good to charge reasonable prices 793 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:34,720 for their gear were to actually release recording media that is actually faster 794 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:36,640 than just an off-the-shelf mcada SSD 795 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:41,760 let's say that they were recording to NVMe ssds 796 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:43,440 if i had a reader that could read at you 797 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,480 know 2 798 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:53,119 20 gigabit then i guess if i also had a 20 gigabit 799 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:58,079 you know network then i could copy over to that 800 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:03,200 if i had a a Thunderbolt 801 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,440 what am i doing with this why do you care so much about 802 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:09,359 Thunderbolt that you don't care about this well Thunderbolt's cool because it's 803 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,520 daisy chainable it carries displayport 804 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:18,720 which okay usbc displayport as well but it can okay but 805 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:22,400 it can carry displayport and data at the same time 806 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:27,119 it's a pci express connection wait are you saying that usbc you can't do data 807 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,040 and displayport at the same time not that i'm aware of 808 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,000 okay um 809 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:37,280 okay the other the other thing about Thunderbolt is that because it is 810 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:43,440 essentially pci express over a wire 811 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,280 without like janky adapters you can 812 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:49,520 actually run basically internal cards 813 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,359 so if you wanted to have a usb graphics card for example you need some like 814 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:59,119 craptastic you know usb 815 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,559 3d accelerator with the freaking 2d crap 816 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:05,520 on it is complicated they're over a hundred dollars if you wanted a 817 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:10,880 Thunderbolt graphics card you could just use a real graphics card and you don't 818 00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:15,520 have to go and spend 600 on a razer core or 500 or whatever it is you can get 819 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,480 something like that beast thing from banggood we got one we never got it 820 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:25,920 working but that's a whole other issue the point is that there's the potential for it 821 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:30,480 daisy chainable pci express regardless of the actual rated speeds of either of 822 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:34,720 them is cooler that's cooler but let's back this up a bit obviously you can't 823 00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:38,160 be mad that this is getting faster no and that it uses the same cord 824 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:44,319 i just jumped for some of the cool i don't have a single thing that benefits from 10 gigabit usb let alone 20. we we 825 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,280 all want the technology to move forward but here here's a couple questions first 826 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:51,920 question when are we going to expect these things to any devices like this to actually hit 827 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:57,119 the market well i don't care you don't even see gen 2 really yet i think uh 828 00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:04,319 barely does the z270 chipset i think 829 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,760 i think z270 finally got usb 3.1 gen 2. 830 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:11,280 no i don't think it has it i think AMD's chipsets have it yeah 3.99 831 00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:14,319 does yeah i think that's um that that's the next gen until feature so we're 832 00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:17,920 probably like maybe they'll leapfrog it no two three 833 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,760 years away but we'll see second question i could be 834 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:25,680 wrong is the clarification you said when you introduced this topic that it will 835 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:29,520 double the speed of either your five gigabit cable or your 10 836 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:34,839 gigabit cable so it means you'll be able to use the same i thought it was only for only the 837 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:39,200 10 gigabit cables could do it um so no it's basically they're just 838 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:43,520 they're they're doubling up on what could be carried by the existing cables 839 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:48,720 so right now you can and that i mean the cable certifications are like 840 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,920 uh you know you can get a 5 gigabit cable and the chances of it doing 10 841 00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:57,040 gigabit are probably pretty good if it was a good cable in the first place so i 842 00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,040 don't stress too much about that stuff 843 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:04,240 how about this what else we got iphone 8 swollen 844 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:08,240 battery have you seen this have you heard about this i have hardwarezone.com 845 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:12,160 the original poster on the forum was vegetable stew great name 846 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:18,720 reports of swollen batteries inside the new iphone surface online 847 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:22,720 like i know this isn't gonna matter or make a dent in anything either their 848 00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:26,480 perception or their sales but i still just it's a little win i like when this 849 00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:29,839 happens to apple why i don't know someone bought an expensive 850 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,880 thing and it broke well they're gonna be fine they're gonna get another one that's it is a drag it might take a 851 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:38,880 couple weeks for them but i think it's just you know what it 852 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:43,760 is wow it's not to anti-fanboy it's just that some people are so hardcore like i 853 00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:47,760 try not to fanboy anything try to be scientific about things 854 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:51,680 when people fanboy really hard as many apple people do it's just nice to have 855 00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:55,680 something to point to be like they're not perfect okay 856 00:59:53,520 --> 01:00:01,079 they're not the iphones aren't mana from heaven they screw up sometimes 857 00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:01,079 okay 858 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:07,520 so this happened in taiwan and japan um 859 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:13,040 after three days using the original charger apparently one of them's uh body 860 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,200 and screen split from the bloat 861 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:18,880 i made a half centimeter gap yeah that's how much it swelled wow 862 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,319 that's a lot there are unconfirmed reports coming in 863 01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:25,440 that the iphone 8 plus uses the same battery manufacturer amperax 864 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:29,680 technologies limited as the samsung galaxy note 7. we're in baby burn herpa 865 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:34,319 derp now if that's true 866 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:37,200 then that looks pretty bad on apple and samsung 867 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,119 well no not samsung because i don't think i mean samsung has sort of fixed their 868 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:46,400 crap i don't think i've seen any reports of note 8s having any issues 869 01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:50,480 razer confirmed development of a gamer oriented mobile device 870 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:54,960 the company confirmed earlier this year a 15 million dollar acquisition of all 871 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,400 shares of mobile startup next bit who had previously produced the next bit 872 01:00:56,559 --> 01:01:01,119 robin's smartphone and they canceled it when they bought them 873 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,160 okay found it in singapore blah blah blah et cetera wow they really did 874 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,680 there's not much to say about it so i want to speculate though sure what does 875 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:16,000 it mean to make a gamer's phone 876 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:20,000 other than black with green accents definitely that's a given probably 877 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,119 really boxy and lots of like angles on it but aside from that 878 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,680 um high refresh rate screen i would love to see a high refresh rate 879 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,359 screen but given that that's a bare minimum given that razer still doesn't 880 01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:36,400 have a high refresh rate screen on the latest blade i wouldn't get my hopes up 881 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:41,040 if an ipad pro exists already and that review is still coming by the way if an 882 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:43,200 ipad pro exists for a year before this 883 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:46,160 gamer phone comes out and one of the things gamers care about is 884 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:49,280 high refresh rate screens if if that already exists and 885 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:53,920 then this phone comes out and doesn't have that lights out i don't think a lot of gamers 886 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,880 know that they care about high refresh rate screens 887 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,839 to be perfectly honest with like our audience i think is more educated when 888 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:05,440 it comes to that console gamers 889 01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:08,559 console gamers yeah console gamers like i think you know what razer is 890 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:12,720 though i think they think that 60 hertz is pretty good 891 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:16,400 well if you're if everyone has the same hardware it's like 892 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,280 having a console the phone will be basically like a console because everyone's using the same hardware so 893 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:25,040 they could lock the frame right i just mean like nobody's necessarily demanding 894 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:29,280 this right or are they because as per another news 895 01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:33,200 item in here the head of the of playstation was like yeah we're not 896 01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:37,599 doing mobile gaming anymore yeah i know because smartphones 897 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:41,520 so they're still selling the vita within um 898 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,720 what is it japan i think is that it i think it was like japan and somewhere 899 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:49,440 um but yeah so sony's basically like yeah 900 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:53,359 nobody wants handhelds anymore we have not seen that as being a huge market 901 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:57,119 opportunity outside of japan and asia you might say what about the switch but 902 01:02:55,359 --> 01:03:00,880 that's like a hybrid it's kind of like an exception i think they made market 903 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,319 share for themselves because well yeah because they made 904 01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:08,400 market share for mobile devices because it replaced their 905 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:13,680 tv console so yeah exactly yeah you had no choice 906 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,680 but to buy a mobile gaming console 907 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:21,039 so if you have a phone already for gaming i kind of think that makes sense 908 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:24,480 to have a gaming phone yeah but what is it 909 01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:28,400 okay so high refresh rate what else makes it gaming 910 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:32,400 maybe they'll just sacrifice like you won't care so much about camera 911 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,760 it'll give you more room to have bigger beefier components 912 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:39,119 but the camera doesn't take up almost any room like it's all processing driven 913 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:44,319 these days anyway and i would make the argument that if you're 914 01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:48,079 gonna try and sell me a gaming phone if anything it should have a better camera 915 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:51,839 it should have a great front-facing camera so i can like stream mobile games 916 01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:54,799 maybe it'll only have a front-facing camera oh lordy 917 01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:01,520 maybe it'll have like a joystick people are like battery life okay 918 01:03:59,359 --> 01:04:06,000 if razer came out and they were like yep it's a flagship class phone it has like 919 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:09,760 a 6 000 milliamp hour battery i'd be like okay 920 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:13,599 sure because now you can actually go and play your clash of the clans for 921 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,599 like five eight hours uninterrupted on a 922 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:21,520 device well it'll probably be and i'm kidding i know it's clash of clans it'll 923 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:25,680 probably be free i would i would expect it to be like double thick 924 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,640 because under this like gaming moniker you can get away with certain things 925 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:31,920 that people don't normally allow in a normal phone 926 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,039 it might be fat and have a huge battery 927 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:41,280 see there it is there it is they're like clash of the clans 928 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:45,440 oh apparently it's dead too i don't know that's the joke 929 01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:50,400 um grab of cash 930 01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:55,680 oh man i always know i can set these guys off with my outdated uh 931 01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:58,720 and like incorrect gaming references anyway what about this uh this angle 932 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,400 here okay what do you got 933 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:07,520 the creation of an original mobile device also opens up the potential for 934 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:10,240 razer to invest in mobile esports a growing space 935 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:16,720 so is razer actually like trying to build products that people want to buy 936 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,920 and make money or are they just trying to like 937 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:25,039 pull a silicon valley and make their business worth a lot so 938 01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:26,480 that they can get acquired um 939 01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:30,559 don't they what are they doing with the like that 940 01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:32,640 currency i don't remember but they're like 941 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,240 dabbling they're dabbling like everything 942 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:40,880 like they did an Android console for the living room like what happened to that thing 943 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:44,559 no idea maybe they're just trying to have like a fully integrated ecosystem i 944 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:49,280 remember they were really excited about their competitor for like NVIDIA game 945 01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:52,000 stream and steam in home streaming they showed it to me back at ces like i 946 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,599 don't know two years ago or something like that i was like yeah this isn't very good they're like oh yeah but it'll 947 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,520 be like way better and then i don't think i've heard about it since 948 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:05,680 um elon musk wants to use his rockets just 949 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:08,799 to fly around earth like go from 950 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:11,039 here to london in 30 minutes 951 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:15,359 30 minutes same price as an economy airline ticket price somehow no wonder 952 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,559 he bailed on the hyperloop because that's like way better 953 01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:24,079 not for the environment no but it's faster hell yeah it's faster 954 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:28,559 it'll shoot you into space like low earth orbit and then you'll just go 955 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:34,160 at 18 000 miles an hour i think it is like an order of magnitude faster than 956 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:36,319 anything humanity's ever done 957 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:41,680 and they're building this in this next six to nine months they're starting it 958 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:47,760 well he's crazy and it's after six and uh 959 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:51,680 tgi friday baby one comment though the question on everybody's mind if you are 960 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:55,359 gonna fly to your business trip in shanghai on this thing what kind of g's 961 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,520 are you pulling on the launch pad are you 962 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:03,440 like do you know what i mean i looked it up it turns out the human body can 963 01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:08,079 withstand nine g's and that gravitron game at the at the 964 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:13,280 yeah like playland or whatever yeah where it sticks you to the wall and like your phone goes flying that's like two 965 01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:16,720 and a half to three g's and wow yeah so that's only a third of 966 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:20,960 what your body can take like in fighter jet but there's that other gravitron there's the uh it's not called the 967 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:27,440 gravitron it's called like zendar or something the one that flips up on the side oh yeah so on that one it spins 968 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:31,039 about as fast as the gravitron i think uh because it has to keep you stuck to 969 01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:34,799 the seat when you're upside down but then when you're down at the bottom 970 01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:38,160 like it's it's stronger you're like shot in you're like slingshotted into the 971 01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:41,760 pool yeah yeah oh yeah regardless anyway 972 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,559 it's apparently a typical rocket launch is like three g's so similar to the 973 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:50,400 gravitronic oh that's not too bad yeah oh you could totally do that yeah 974 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:55,119 i could do that every day maybe i'll just commute from my house in 975 01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:58,319 a rocket boom boom boom indeed you would literally boom you 976 01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:03,359 would go to every conference you go to computex you go to the microsoft event to see the new surface whatever yeah 977 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,400 half an hour for the day so yeah see you tonight 978 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:10,880 especially if it's that cheap i don't know how he's gonna make it that cheap i don't think he's gonna make it that 979 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:15,200 cheap yeah well all right well thanks for tuning in you guys see you next week 980 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:18,480 same bad time same bad channel bye-bye 981 01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:22,400 thanks for stopping by do you know that meme 982 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:28,880 like the first meme oh i thought you were old 983 01:08:25,759 --> 01:08:28,880 i'm old i'm also dumb 984 01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:38,239 luke died for this luke died for this 985 01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:41,679 how dare you stand where he stood oh during the break when max was on here 986 01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:43,679 mape tweeted at me he was like i like james 987 01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:48,880 so there you go there's your one in 20. hey 988 01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:54,159 i got a couple last time exactly that's your couple in 40. like 989 01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,159 tweets yeah