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Linus Tech Tips Live Show Archive - March 15, 2013

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0:02 welcome to the live stream guys we've got a ton of cool topics tonight

0:07 including uh I don't know what are our topics tonight I have a thing with

0:12 topics but we've we've got some blackberry juice

0:16 we've got um we've got one of the most incendiary things I think I've ever

0:20 heard which is apparently some game developers are running around saying the

0:24 PlayStation 4 will outperform PCS for years to come which app he doesn't

0:28 understand anything about performance or hardware at all about anything although

0:33 although uh it's funny because this was going to be one of our featured news

0:38 items from the Linus Tech tips forum and I have to like the guy who who posted

0:43 this one I give him props for posting in our news section because that's great

0:47 and that is appreciated but he was a little bit sensationalist about his

0:51 headline so I will uh we we'll clarify that once we once we move into that so

0:56 why don't we start with something a little bit uh actually we've got a lot

1:02 of crazy stuff to talk about we're going to talk about your Windows 8 downgrade

1:07 uh we're going to talk about how I'm actually not going to be moving to

1:10 Windows 8 on my personal rig I hope that

1:14 uh Twitter managed to where the heck is the where's the uh the here it is I got

1:20 it I got it I got it it's always behind you just always assume that it's behind

1:23 you NOP I refuse to do that that is clearly Incorrect and a bad thing that I

1:28 will not be doing at all always behind you oh did I leave the twitch stream on

1:31 they came from behind yes oh yeah we'll be talking

1:37 Starcraft Heart of the Swarm because we have an actual gamer on the show this

1:41 week him they fit that in there by the way in the campaign there's a they came

1:45 from behind yeah I was so stoked oh I love that so stoked when I heard it they

1:50 also fit a Wilhelm scream into the trailer oh no way yeah a marine gets

1:54 stepped on or I can't I can't do the willhelm

1:58 scream hold on oh a no it's like

2:02 impossible to recreate it's awesome though if you don't know what will Helm

2:05 scream is YouTube it not now because it's in like every movie ever yeah

2:10 especially Star Wars anything to do with Lucas Arts every Star War every Luca

2:14 every Indiana Jones every Star Wars video video movie movie we make videos

2:20 George Lucas makes movies or at least he did in the 70s and

2:25 80s and you could argue he made they

2:29 don't count those are videos oh that's okay I'm not going to get into

2:33 original trilogy versus new Trilogy that would be an interesting live topic

2:37 though uh we're going to talk batteries we're going to talk about oh okay so

2:41 this is this okay here let's kick it off so the we've only got 20 oh okay the

2:46 viewers are going up a little bit I'm just a little bit confused because I I'm

2:49 never quite sure if the live stream starting now thing do you have to

2:54 actually specifically announce on Twitch that you're

2:57 streaming because I think there's like an announce button but I don't know how

3:02 exactly that works you know what I'm not going to worry about it too much have no

3:06 idea a few people said NOP or not really not really okay I got to get on this

3:11 stream chat so let's uh let's get started with the belon link linkx

3:15 acquisition is pretty much done so I got an email from my lyx contact today

3:20 saying that his email is changing from his name at cisco.com to his name at I

3:27 think I think it's going to be a linkis email now so Belin has come out and said

3:31 okay we're keeping the two different uh streams of products separate so product

3:37 development is still going to be separate um product uh branding is still

3:41 going to be separate okay so when Cisco did the linkis acquisition in fact if I

3:45 could find a Cisco I see I called it a Cisco router if I could find a linkis

3:50 router lying around here somewhere I'd be able to show you they actually say Cisco right on the top yeah in

3:55 fact that's what happened when lynis

3:59 asked us to change cuz we originally oh

4:02 yeah had our CES content branded Cisco because we couldn't find the linkis

4:06 brand in use anywhere they probably already knew that

4:11 it was coming soon so they were like oh yeah we saw your first video and we'd

4:15 actually uh we'd really like you to change that to a linkis

4:20 brand and stuff call taking that out someone

4:25 complaining about it uh might have been audible no I heard it anyway so uh so

4:30 yeah that's probably what happened there so anyway they're going to keep them separate and it's going to be pretty

4:35 much business as usual for lynus as a

4:38 separate good though I think so too because there's nothing wrong with the

4:41 product no like we actually we did some

4:44 really interesting testing with the EA was it the 42 or the 45 45 45 versus the

4:49 N900 uh versus the N900 from WD and we

4:53 found that without any optimization or tweaking of the qos at all it was just

4:57 such a beast for very heavy Network like we did we did crazier stuff that we do

5:02 on that Network like ever that was

5:06 probably the hardest load we ever put on it and multiple Netflix streams a Skype

5:10 call a game stream um and torrenting and

5:14 torrenting yeah and we had like six or seven computers going so it was like

5:18 crazy and it was like a lot of Torrance because we were pushing back and forth from school yeah so even things like the

5:23 website are going to stay the same so you're not going to actually not I mean

5:27 I don't think someone like Belin acquiring a very strong networking brand

5:33 like linkis really wants to mess with it too much whereas with Cisco where they

5:37 have that more premium branding I can understand why they'd want some trickle

5:41 down effect and it's like oh so it should be worth more of a premium because we're we're Cisco and honestly

5:46 like to most consumers they will probably have no

5:50 idea that the sale and acquisition even occurred and that's probably a good

5:54 thing yeah if they just nope nobody

5:57 knows and that's exactly what we want yeah absolutely Ely I think not many

6:00 people are watching yet so uh hopefully this has blasted on Twitter or Y there

6:06 it is live stream starting now I see it so hopefully people uh tune in pretty

6:10 quickly here because otherwise it's just us and our 400 most loyal viewers

6:15 whatever man thank you guys for apparently planning your lives around

6:19 being here to watch us live on our Friday night when we could otherwise be

6:23 dating attractive women or or eating bacon or eating yeah slick I actually

6:28 haven't even had one LT sandwich and

6:31 it's not even going to be hot by the time I eat it it's already not yeah oh

6:36 even mine was like room so so disappoint

6:40 all right so I don't remember what hot Keys we use for um for switching scenes

6:46 anymore is it like Shi fys is it f

6:50 Keys oh yeah there we go yay Twitter okay so it's 2 a.m. in Argentina thank

6:55 you for tuning in can you do live stream at a sensible time for us British

7:00 European types we will change it eventually yeah the plan is to change it

7:04 the plan is to change it probably time and probably day not probably day I

7:10 don't want to do it on Friday nights I I don't think most people want to do it on Friday nights because most people like

7:15 even if you're not going out you're probably wanting to game with your buds

7:19 so like I want to game with my buds I'm

7:22 pretty sure they want to game with their buds yeah I'm pretty sure they want to game with their buds too someone's

7:26 asking uh where happened to the Acer laptop oh it's still here slicks on my

7:30 old MSI um like sort of gaming ready

7:33 model that I try not to use cuz man it's heavy but it's kind of awesome because

7:37 it's like quad core and stuff but uh there we go let's go ahead and go back

7:41 to our can you please do a video on the

7:44 his 7970 GHz Edition 3 gig what do you

7:47 think of this GPU I think it's a 7970 GHz Edition and I think it has 3 gigs of

7:53 RAM and I think his put their sticker on it that's what I think bam does it were

7:59 you that Google has control over your job with AdSense have you thought of

8:02 setting a paid subscription for your site there is no way we are implementing

8:06 any kind of paid subscription for our content bye-bye every single viewer we

8:11 have yeah I mean we love you guys and we know that you love us too but we're

8:15 pretty sure that we we're all like nope

8:19 premium content $5 monthly subscription you guys are going to be like yeah I'll

8:23 just go watch someone else's unboxing video so um I mean we think we make good

8:28 content and all that good stuff but for us I mean our value ad that will allow

8:33 us to no longer give Google complete control over our livelihoods is our

8:38 audience and if we alienate the audience then like we suck and on that note a

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10:02 you might not want to see it anymore hey we have another sponsor So speaking of

10:06 sponsors and not relying on Google forever that's a big part of the reason

10:11 why we did two things so number one is we're reaching out and getting sponsors

10:15 like sponsors that we trust that we actually use so if you go you know line

10:20 us what CPU you using in your computer I'm using an Intel CPU like at the same

10:26 time and I've been using it for years not because because Intel sponsoring

10:30 Tech tips at the same time we're not hating on AMD and at the same time we're

10:34 not hating on AMD in fact AMD particularly on the GPU side has been

10:38 getting a lot of love Lately from us check out the what was the most recent

10:42 one we did I think I'm of what's released okay Battlefield 3 yeah they

10:47 won Battlefield 3 they won I think they've won every single GPU Showdown so

10:51 far I think they won all of them and then like tied one or something yeah I

10:54 think uh Battlefield 3 was more more of a tie and then Crisis 3 Ste red but

11:00 still the top two spots in Battlefield 3 if you look at the overall chart which

11:04 is poked in at the End by a little bit cuz there isn't really a good vocal

11:07 segue for me to Overlay the overall chart but it is there so if you guys are

11:11 watching the Battlefield 3 video go somewhere near the end and it just kind

11:14 of goes hello and then leaves after a little while but check it out that's

11:18 like the whole like all the cards on one big chart you can see the top two spots

11:22 are actually MD cards there you go um although we have a new sponsor so Cooler

11:26 Master particularly CM Storm game peripherals which I think both you and I

11:31 have been pretty raw raw raw about same

11:35 Factory is filco like you can't really that's all you really need to know you

11:38 can't even go that wrong I've got a quickfire TK upstairs that I use like

11:44 whenever whenever your ducky was dead whenever my ducky was dead yeah or when

11:49 I was swapping the key caps out of my ducky or like I bring it home if I go to

11:53 my parents host for weekend easier to travel with like it's yeah it's nice and

11:58 like it's pretty ruged too so cooler Master's on board now which we're really

12:02 excited about and in addition to that we also just signed with twitch.tv as a

12:06 YouTube Network so we won't have to rely on Google's ad sales anymore so twitch

12:12 is actually going to be responsible for filling our videos the like the regular

12:15 YouTube pre-rolls with hopefully more relevant ads which I think is important

12:21 um as well as hopefully you know not making us rely strictly on Google which

12:26 I mean even now we rely on Google in huge ways just for the infrastructure uh

12:31 delivering the videos to you guys they make all kinds of mistakes that honestly

12:35 cost us a lot of money and a lot of headache um not not delivering our

12:39 videos to our subscribers yeah subscription box I have um my personal

12:44 YouTube account gets like less than a quarter of the lion Tech tips uploads

12:49 I'm like what I should be getting all of

12:52 these very frustrating I mean there's that there's the fact that uh YouTube

12:57 screws up on things like we had a set to

13:00 private and it went public so we we accidentally broke embargo on the GTX

13:04 Titan launch which was not cool and they've had I mean that's been broken

13:08 for months at a time in the past to the point where it's just kind

13:13 of ridiculous so uh so yeah we still rely on them in a big way but we're not

13:16 going to rely on them for our livelihoods which is sort of exciting

13:21 well not entirely for our livelihoods we'll still rely on them yeah if anyone

13:25 from Google's watching we'd still love you please don't shut off our Channel

13:30 Don't Close Our Channel yes we like our Channel um okay so let's talk Galaxy S4

13:38 actually you know what no let's go to let's go to Twitter for for a little bit of Q&A here let's see what you guys have

13:44 to say about the show so far I'm just going to go ahead sorry if people notice

13:47 that I'm looking down a lot I'm trying to get on Twitch but I can't log into my

13:51 account so I'm oh I'm on Twitch over here yeah but I want to be able to

13:55 monitor it here yeah okay we should just be monitoring it we should be monitoring

13:58 the chat at all s because you guys notice when anything's wrong right away

14:01 which is good uh Johnny blae says you should try the new BlackBerry Zed 10

14:05 when you're done with the HTC1 I would love to if anyone from Blackberry is

14:09 watching we'd love to hear from you we'd love to have an opportunity to try it

14:12 out I mean it's funny because we've said

14:15 that enough times like kind of joking but then there was that guy from Belle

14:19 who watched and we called them we said that their customer support with butt

14:22 heads so he called us and fixed it like fixed everything everything's perfect

14:26 now and then um we called though rul sud

14:31 y formerly a voodoo who apparently left a comment on our video um because we

14:35 said that we weren't sure if any of the solid gold cases is sold yes and he was

14:39 like yes we sold at least one $50,000 for that gold case which is just

14:45 unbelievable um and you know what's what uh I checked it is him I had Josh follow

14:52 up with him and find out if it was actually him and it actually was Raul if

14:55 you're wondering where that comment came from on YouTube you can just set whatever name you want

14:59 we hadama com I'm like I'm

15:04 pretty prry has uh some other videos to

15:08 watch that are not related to technology and whatnot pretty sure if he wanted a

15:13 really good computer he would just kind of have a really good computer do you think the 7970 is better for Battlefield

15:18 3 Call of Duty and Tomb Raider you know what we have to do Tomb Raider yeah I

15:22 want to wait I want to wait till driver optim optimization I don't want to do

15:26 too many beta drivers anymore because all the weird stuff that in a couple

15:29 weeks so what we're going to do is we're going to wait till AMD and NVIDIA both

15:34 drop pretty good driver optimization revisions okay then I'll run all the

15:39 test test benches for that bench benchmarks not test benches yeah um run

15:43 all run it on all the test benches every test bench we have U I'll run all the

15:48 benchmarks for that and then we'll release a video on that right away and then you'll have your BF3 and Tomb

15:53 Raider did he mention another game uh Battlefield 3 Cod and Tomb Raider so I

15:57 mean Cod runs on like an atar I wouldn't worry about it man you're probably fine

16:01 yeah it's probably okay just don't stress don't stress Jason it's cool all

16:06 right speaking of which someone asked for a shout out to a Jason but a different Jason slick could you tell us

16:10 about your personal rig maybe we'll cover that when we talk about your Windows 8 downgrade right someone asks

16:15 is Razer really that bad because from what I hear in the Internet it's the

16:19 worst branding in the world no I don't think that's true at all I mean like any

16:22 company not every product is perfect but I mean the um orb weaver is by far the

16:30 best game pad that we've ever encountered uh what was the name of that

16:34 uh that controller the Sabertooth the one we saw

16:38 at CES it's not tournament ready or is it tournament ready and the other one's

16:42 not tournament ready oh that I don't remember it's either the previous razor

16:47 the or Xbox controll I think it's no orca's a headset I know the one you Anza

16:52 onza yeah um it's I can't remember if it was the Anza or the new saber tooth well

16:57 the new one has those button on the bottom but they're removable are they

17:00 not oh no and they're not macro ready right so the new one is tourament ready

17:05 one right cuz you can't rebind all the buttons all over the place yeah so I

17:09 mean and the build quality of it was outstanding especially compared to the

17:13 to the older one which wasn't as good I mean that black widow ultimate is a very

17:18 solid mechanical keyboard I mean guys I

17:21 guess oh yeah and the blade the blade is

17:24 probably right up there with guys like apple in terms of the build quality of

17:27 that notebook All I'm gonna say I've owned two razor leosa or

17:34 leus neither of them work okay so I

17:38 think it's a mi mixed bag when you have people that have a bad experience then

17:42 they're much more likely to talk about that than a good experience that's also

17:46 very true and talking from my NC

17:49 experience where I know what the sales numbers look like I can tell you right

17:53 now if you see five complaints about Razer compared to some other gaming

17:58 brand it might have something to do with the fact that they're selling five times

18:02 more than them or more right so that's

18:06 definitely a very valid and very large point I mean it was like that with ocz

18:10 and ssds for the longest time where people like all the complaints I see

18:13 about ssds are ocz well yeah all the ssds that are selling are ocz so what do

18:18 you want me to say like yeah whatever

18:21 man uh okay so let's go back I'm working on a prodigy build what does your wife

18:25 think about you using the living room as a workshop for your personal rake I actually am not anymore my personal rig

18:30 is almost done I'm working on a prodigy

18:33 build I thought you finished well I still have to my uh the power adapter I

18:37 made myself I made a left angle power adapter for my optical drive but I used

18:41 wires that were too thin and they didn't bite into the thing enough so I have to

18:45 replace that I have to fix the extension wire I was using for my four fans on the

18:49 bottom cuz it like broke or something decrep it somehow I have to remount the

18:55 top LED strip because the included adhesive with the phobias is not holding

18:59 it in place so I'm going to use my double-sided velcro yeah and then I have

19:02 to figure out how to bleed that Bloody T Virus so pretty close was it not it's

19:08 getting there but I'm thinking if I stick like something in there and just kind of swirl it around that might help

19:12 you can do that then you got to take those caps off and that's not always the easiest no no it's easy with the fill

19:17 Port yeah you can just stick it through the fill Port I think it should be would

19:20 you get tied up in the uh maybe in the

19:23 Helix I don't know I haven't tried yet either way if you want to do shake this

19:27 is like totally has nothing to do with the stream I don't want to shake the computer but if you want to do Shake we

19:32 can lift it up and I can stabilize it you can shake oh I shudder to think

19:36 because there's enough things that just are broken enough about it um we're not

19:39 going to talk about bit torrent on the show we like to keep things clean but

19:43 feel free to talk about bit torrant somewhere else uh thoughts on El joining

19:47 the new egg crew I think it's I think it's a huge benefit for the new egg TV

19:52 guys I mean he brings with him an enormous audience yeah he's he's got his

19:57 crew basically like he's got all the guys that are going to follow him which is he's been around forever I mean you

20:02 look at how quickly Tech of Tomorrow grew when he departed from motherboards

20:06 org and channel pro it's going to be interesting departing from

20:10 motherboards.org channelpro going to check of tomorrow which he was already

20:14 kind of he was already kind of running on his own but like boosting it up and

20:18 then ditch boost up he may I I don't

20:21 know what his plan is I haven't talked to him he may maintain it because I know

20:25 Kyle and Paul at least have their own channels do awesome sauce news and

20:30 Paul's Hardware if you guys want to check them out Paul did a really good video review of the leonitis 30in IPS uh

20:37 monitor that's available for like 600 700 bucks on eBay yeah um so guys check

20:42 out his video of that if you're looking at a large format display which it

20:45 happens I am because mine's broken

20:48 now if you want the story on that because he probably doesn't want to

20:51 reiterate it personal build personal rig update 15 has the it's pretty much the

20:56 most depressing video I think either of us have ever filmed

21:01 yeah yeah oh spring break is it spring

21:04 break yes it's been so long since I've been in school I don't even think about

21:08 it anymore maybe that's why no one's watching Linus please enable 240p

21:12 viewing option I have no idea how to enable or

21:16 disable different viewing options I think that's handled by twitch we stream

21:20 at 1080p but I believe you can downscale it to whatever you want yeah I have no

21:23 idea how to do that no

21:27 idea um all right so let's move into our

21:31 next discussion topic should we just let's just let's just hit the Galaxy S4

21:35 now shall we boom so we cheated a little bit in our teaser video for the live

21:40 stream where we said we had a Galaxy S4

21:43 but actually we don't this is just a Galaxy S3 which should give you guys

21:47 some idea of how different we think the S4 is from the S3 if you look at the

21:51 front of the S4 the camera and these two

21:55 little LEDs go slightly more vertical

21:58 and this little indicator LED is now visible just like these ones no goes

22:03 slight more hold on slow down slow down you're blowing my mind man it's visible

22:08 you can see it's got the black ring just like the other ones it goes slightly

22:11 more vertical and it comes all the way over here to go right beside the speaker

22:17 no way hold on beside the speaker fan freaking tastic Game Changer I don't

22:21 even know who could have possibly thought about that the button is like

22:25 slightly more squared off hold on there's a

22:29 button one button one button you can't

22:32 put more than one button okay although with that said the HTC1 does not have a

22:37 button I don't know if you noticed that I did there is no middle button there's

22:40 an HTC I'm not sure what to think because

22:44 you I you double tap home to get to your recent apps which is fine which is fine

22:49 I'm okay with a double tap it's fast and the haptic feedback on this thing is

22:53 outstanding okay holy crap let's stay focused on S4 focused on S4 okay okay

22:58 physical changes carry on take it off and show what the inside different is

23:03 okay so here I'll hold this one so the back from here all the way up to there

23:09 is pretty much the same okay and then

23:13 the flashlight Goes Down Under the camera

23:17 and this disappears okay and that is innovation

23:22 and it's do you have the specs up on your computer I can get it up in a

23:25 moment get the full specs up cuz I'm going to start I'm going to talk about

23:29 sort of the the philosophy behind what might have driven Samsung to go with a a

23:35 very similar to Galaxy S3 design so no

23:39 matter how much I rag on it it does kind of make sense yeah it kind of makes sense okay cuz when you looked at Galaxy

23:44 1 honestly it wasn't a great phone no my

23:47 wife has one it has not really served

23:50 her well no not I'm not going to rag on them

23:54 or anything but they knew it wasn't great Galaxy S2 came out pretty quick

23:59 and revamped everything it went Amed it

24:03 went uh way faster way faster it had a

24:07 way better screen it was just better in every possible way and they completely

24:11 reinvented it with the Galaxy S2 then Galaxy S3 came along and went okay we're

24:16 going to turn every take everything that was good about the S2 and keep it we're

24:19 going to go with a shape that's much nicer to hold did the screen get bigger

24:23 I don't remember I think so I think it did I can't I can't remember Galaxy S2

24:28 again though pretty sure it did didn't last that long and was replaced by a

24:31 phone that was significantly better in every possible way and replaced it now

24:36 Galaxy S3 hung around with us for a long time I mean this launched we did a video

24:42 back around uh around launch so that's going to give me some idea of when it

24:47 was but ncixcom

24:51 Galaxy someone's probably already uh oh

24:54 Galaxy video card eight months ago so so this launched almost a year ago like 9

24:59 10 months ago and here we are finally

25:02 Samsung's replacing it with the S4 which

25:07 is similar but remember this time they're

25:11 not replacing a phone that was fundamentally flawed in any way they're

25:14 replacing a phone that was that did

25:17 really well the number one selling smartphone yeah if you're

25:22 Samsung do you reinvent the wheel when the wheels spinning really

25:27 good one thing thing I brought up when we were origin talking this up yeah go

25:31 ahead um um sorry that was funny uh we were in

25:36 the car talking about it and I was like okay well if it's really similar form

25:40 factor and just like awesome sauce specs compared to before why don't they take

25:45 the Apple approach and just call it like

25:48 not an S because it's already s because of Samsung but like the Samsung GS X

25:56 right GS 3x or something like add another thing to the end because they're

26:00 not changing not really really changing the form factor of the phone not

26:04 changing stuff like that and then you I mean that's something apples gets away

26:09 with though because they've been doing it for so long yeah I mean you know what

26:12 an s means an s means an evolutionary

26:16 change um I mean they've done this with iPad as well where they don't even

26:20 Rebrand the damn thing anymore no they just go iPad IP with retina display so

26:26 you when you buy an iPad you're buying an IP ad unless it's an iPad 2 so there

26:29 was iPad iPad 2 and iPad yeah with Retina and I I mean maybe something like

26:35 that would have been appropriate here as a Galaxy S3 Uber Edition or like

26:39 whatever the brand like better branding than that but um but then branding

26:43 consolidation is a really really big deal and that brings this into play okay

26:47 let's talk about that later hold on I want to talk specs on this first so okay

26:51 okay so Samsung's either going to have um a what is it Snapdragon S600 is it

26:56 called S600 something something Snapdragon 600 something or other um so

27:01 that's going to be a 1.9 GHz quad core

27:04 which is pretty similar to the 1.7 GHz

27:08 uh uh Snapdragon 600 that's in the HTC1

27:11 a little bit faster although it has a beier battery 2600 milliamp hours

27:15 compared to 2300 or 2350 or something like that um but there's going to be

27:19 another version that's an octacore exus or whatever they call their thing uh

27:24 that's an octacore that has 4 A7 cores and 4 a15 cores now would go as far as

27:29 to say if their intention is to use

27:32 those four cores either for power saving or performance it's still kind of a quad

27:37 core can NVIDIA get away with calling Tegra 3 a five core cuz they kind of

27:42 tried it at first and then they backed off on it cuz they have that that low

27:45 power core and then the four performance on is that exactly how it's supposed to work switching for power saving my

27:51 understanding is that's how the octacore is supposed to work cuz come on you're not going to benefit from an octacore

27:56 like four equal cores and the Octor is clocked at 1.6 GHz so it's going to vary

28:01 depending on region what spec you get so the HTC1 by contrast you're going to get

28:05 the same spec regardless of region but there's six different versions

28:10 supporting different bands for different regions that makes sense but you get the

28:13 same CPU regardless um what else have they changed spec-wise so they've added

28:18 so it's a 5 in 1080P I keep holding this because for all intents ofp I'll hold

28:22 this far enough away that you can't tell uh it's a 5 in 1080P display Amed with

28:27 the room rumors were that the Amed uh production line wasn't ready yet and it

28:32 was going to be LCD but very exciting so you're going to get those deep deep rich

28:36 blacks power savings assuming you're not looking at really bright stuff all the

28:40 time that's really exciting um it's going to come with 4.2.2 Jelly Bean

28:45 ridiculous 12 megapixel camera 13 13 yeah 13 megapixel camera with two on the

28:51 front Cam and that leads us to another sort of comparison point between the

28:55 we're not even going to be able to talk about the one cuz we're blending it here

28:58 so HTC went for a bold departure from what

29:03 everyone very bold instead of a high megapixel rear camera they have a 4

29:07 megapixel rear camera hold on I'm G let that snc in for a moment there and you

29:12 know what's kind of stupid is I had all my notes for the

29:17 HTC um unboxing that we did earlier deleted them and I deleted them as we

29:21 went but you for undo I think I've got it they're calling it Ultra pixel Ultra

29:26 pixel camera sensor so this is is a 4 megapixel 3 in sensor with an f2.0 lens

29:31 and Optical image stabilization that they're saying because of the larger

29:36 pixels and the large sensors is actually able to capture more light and more

29:40 detail even though the resolution that will appear when you right click

29:44 properties resolution is actually lower

29:47 and you were dinking around with it a little bit in the car on the way back and it looks like and also based on

29:52 reviews that we're seeing of the phone that might be true it looks really good

29:55 more megapixels may not be the solution so anyway Samsung has a 13 megapixel

30:00 camera on this bad boy um it's available on a variety of

30:05 different internal storage configurations and it does have a micro

30:08 SD slot which the one does not that to me is so confusing the way HTC continues

30:14 to not Implement micro SD in their high-end phones I personally never

30:18 actually filled my iPhone 416 gig and you don't like but not everyone's like

30:22 me some people want more storage there's a spot like they could have put spot

30:27 right on the bottom there put a Micro SD slot there for crying out loud guys like

30:30 you can't take off the back okay you can't replace the battery okay okay make

30:36 an external plugin for it's a really small chip with that said the one only

30:40 comes in 32 gig and 64 gig configurations going to be big so I

30:44 would never manage to fill 30 I know that I actually will both of us won't I

30:48 stream video to myself over my data plan I have a pretty generous data plan so I

30:52 don't worry about it too much okay what else they got oh yeah so there you can

30:56 interact with the touch screen without quite touching it although I don't know how valuable that is uh it apparently

31:01 pauses video If You Look Away although their camera based eye tracking features

31:05 have never necessarily worked for everyone so I don't know about that uh s

31:12 Travel Trip Advisor oh they're adding some of the

31:16 cool features from the Galaxy camera which we shot an NC Tech tips of today

31:20 and is actually really cool yeah it's actually pretty awesome I just wish it

31:23 had a phone in it yeah okay we were talking about this the galaxy C camera

31:28 is running Android yes and Android Jelly Bean and we were thinking if you just

31:33 add like a speaker and a mic yeah it

31:37 supports it supports um it supports data

31:41 it supports data already with a micro SIM yeah yeah so if you're going to have

31:44 a plan for the stupid thing and you don't actually and and if you're one of

31:48 the I mean let's face it there are people out there who don't care about a

31:52 thin phone these people exist and the Galaxy camera is not that thick like

31:58 it's probably if I took look at all the Samsung product placement here Samsung

32:01 ssds like if you took sort of a phone and a couple ssds it's kind of like that

32:05 without the lens sticking out expand your storage today strap an SSD to your

32:09 phone I might be the kind of person who would actually say you know what for the

32:13 sake of having an awesome camera and video camera as a

32:16 vlogger maybe I don't care about a slim phone anymore if I'm going somewhere

32:20 I've got my backpack that's right would you actually mind putting your phone SL

32:26 camera in like a drink pouch or something on your

32:30 backpack you can play games on it it would be cool if it had the

32:34 functionality so that I could bounce my sim right or just get you can get a

32:39 supplementary Sim yeah or do something like that something like that if I could

32:43 share the plan that would be awesome like a self family plan for your camera

32:47 and your phone and your tablet or something and your notebook or something

32:50 like that yeah because there's sometimes that I'm going to go and I don't have my

32:53 bag cuz that's probably where we're headed and I see no reason why I

32:57 shouldn't be able to take a phone call on my notebook if I feel like it yeah or

33:01 on my camera if I feel like it why not and while everyone's talking about

33:05 everything getting smaller and stuff and like phones Getting Thinner cameras like

33:10 you need the sensor you need the lenses you need the distance you have to have

33:14 that distance while neither of us are actually experts on cameras we know

33:18 basic physics we know Diesel and we know Diesel and we knew this before we knew

33:23 dies yes that's true and making the pixels small enough to the point where

33:28 like uh like the the the I forget what it's called whatever this I don't know

33:33 light light wavelengths yeah where the light wavelength actually is not even

33:37 going to be able to hit yeah cuz if pixel's too small you're trying to go

33:40 into a box this big with wavelengths like this you're just oversampling so so

33:45 yeah that's that's an exciting departure what else we got from Samsung's phone so

33:49 they amped up the battery life they amped up the GPU in a big way much more

33:53 powerful should be much more competitive uh Samsung nox will be supported so if

33:57 you want to bring own device BYOD is a big Trend right now um so you'll have

34:01 like a safety spot vers like where your your uh your your work can um sort of

34:07 admit it for you and you can DPN and then you'll have like a consumer one

34:11 where your Facebook pictures aren't not going to be accessible to your office or

34:15 anything like that however Blackberry is moving their secure workstation over to

34:20 iOS and Android or secure workspace yeah secure workspace so maybe nox is coming

34:25 along at a time when it may not even even end up mattering although this is

34:29 interesting because in my opinion if Blackberry did this two maybe three

34:34 years ago I think they would be in a way better position because blackberry's

34:38 whole thing is workplace yep like it's

34:42 it's always been like they they are the business phone or at least they were

34:45 they were that's the problem a lot of people started moving their Blackberry

34:49 servers out and their Blackberry security and all that kind of stuff because people weren't using

34:52 blackberries anymore if Blackberry rolled this out so that people all

34:56 businesses kept their Blackberry infrastructure so your theory is that

35:00 then when Blackberry got competitive on Hardware again again they'd be instantly

35:05 easier to reintegrate everywhere right whereas if there's an infrastructure

35:10 change yeah because now people is a very

35:13 competitive phone oh yeah for sure um now people that ditched businesses that

35:17 ditched are going to have to if they want to roll out blackberries again go

35:21 back again and doing another change is going to be hard to push through

35:24 management and you look at how long iOS and Android were Superior to blackberry

35:30 and yet how long it took businesses to move away from Blackberry because it was

35:33 so good like how how how Superior you

35:37 have to be to drive someone to your solution versus how mediocre you can be

35:42 and Coast on it yeah it's ridiculous and

35:46 like at the same time it's not battle but I'm kind of rooting for them yeah I

35:50 want Blackberry to live I really want Blackberry live the Z 10's an awesome

35:53 phone I want to actually use one it's super light it's kind of like iPhone 5

35:56 light like just super I like

36:00 uh along those lines the S4 is getting lighter than the S3 and the HTC1 has

36:05 some heft to it with its like sexy uh

36:09 aluminum 200 minutes on a machine uh

36:12 shell that is just well it's like very premium compared to this was an

36:18 interesting one quick thing to add Blackberry I think if they still like

36:22 just to bounce back on this again if they still had their servers in place so

36:26 if they gave out their software what they could have done with the Z 10

36:29 release is say look now we have another awesome phone with some added features

36:33 for Blackberry secure workspace so they could have differentiated and been a

36:38 been a standardized platform which would have driven more sales anyways continue

36:43 right uh okay what else we got here uh S

36:46 Voice blah blah blah have we missed anything oh it has wireless wireless AC

36:50 although I have no idea what performance is going to be like because based on our

36:53 experience with like a USB AC adapter it probably won't be any different from in

36:57 it's that's my guess and like power power hungry I mean the actual full

37:03 performance AC Solutions we run into have heat sinks as big as a phone on

37:07 them a little bit bigger actually yeah so uh we don't have it here do we

37:11 available 1632 or 64 gigs with plus the

37:14 micro SD slot and I think that's pretty

37:18 much it so let's wrap up with some of the highlights of the HTC1 so this has

37:22 got the same uh the same Snapdragon 600

37:26 processor in it 2 gigs of RAM just like the S4 it's got that Ultra pixel camera

37:31 it's got the ability to take crap zo zo

37:34 Z zois is that zo or zo Z Zoe so it's a

37:39 four to five still frames at a time while recording 1080p video which is

37:43 very cool I think yeah and the idea is that you'll have kind of like little

37:48 talking talking Snippets uh like motion

37:51 Snippets kind of like uh like the newspapers and the portraits in Harry

37:54 Potter daily profit yeah like in the daily profit and I think it's it's

37:58 either going to be really neat or it's going to be kind of gimmicky and I won't

38:01 end up using it but I actually don't know it's not one of those things like

38:05 um where you you look at it and you're just like ah skip through this stuff

38:09 tell me the spec of this stupid thing because I don't care about these gimmicky features so I'm actually

38:12 willing to give that a shot um boom sound is a huge Innovation and that's

38:18 something that Samsung could have done front-facing speakers come on guys why

38:22 did this take so long every tablet and every smartphone from now on should have

38:26 front-facing speakers you can write me down as having said that because it

38:31 matters if you actually expect this to be a Content consumption device music

38:37 movies games all of them benefit from front-facing speakers because cupping

38:41 your hand around the back of a phone to hear it properly is stupid and all the

38:45 complaints I get from people and it's funny I get a lot of complaints about

38:49 the audio levels being too low which is why we boosted them up tonight uh people

38:52 are like oh I can't hear it because I'm on my phone and I'm like oh it's because

38:57 of your stupid crappy Ultrabook or phone

39:00 speaker that doesn't actually go loud enough and people who reply to those

39:03 people and say oh just turn your volume up they don't understand you guys are on

39:06 a phone not on like a desktop computer where you can just crank it up so we're

39:10 trying to get that addressed in recent videos and I hope we've done a pretty

39:13 good job of that so uh there's that they have an infrared emitter and uh receiver

39:18 built into the power button which I think is a really elegant way to do that so you can use it as a as a universal

39:24 remote and of course I mean the chassis just outstanding it's really easy to

39:28 hold in spite of the fact that it is 4.7 in and I do have small hands uh it goes

39:33 almost Ed to Edge and it is 1080p just like the S4 so this is

39:37 basically I guess it's also not out yet but I think it's going to be out first

39:41 it's basically like a higher end S4 and then slightly lower clocks much better

39:46 build quality right talking about release dates um Samsung S4 is I believe

39:52 April 20th um so coming soon exciting about a

39:57 month August no it is August it is no that's nope that's something completely

40:01 different okay so I don't know the release dates oh that was Saints Row

40:04 four by the way we don't know so forget

40:07 it we have no idea okay so the last bit about phones we're not going to talk

40:11 about phones anymore after this I don't think is that HTC's CMO actually came

40:17 out I don't think I told you this yet fight fight in words came out and said

40:21 Samsung's Galaxy S4 is quote unquote more of the

40:26 same whoa looking to grab some headlines there hey

40:30 boss that might be a good tactic for them right now that might be the way to

40:34 form of marketing sort of ride on the coattails of the Samsung marketing

40:38 engine which exists now for the mobile products so okay last thing last thing

40:42 actual last thing so guys for those of you who have been asking me to do an I

40:46 switched for Android I am doing it I'm going to be using the HTC1 as my Android

40:52 weapon of choice I'm done with Windows Phone 8 we'll be giving away the 8S soon

40:56 actually as well as a bunch of phones on the Forum uh soon uh hopefully next week I

41:03 guess think we can launch it it depends let's try and lach we're going we're

41:06 going to try and launch it next week um but yeah I'm going to do an Android eye

41:10 switch and if there's anyone from Blackberry watching please let me know and I'd love to do a Blackberry I

41:13 switched after that so I can give you guys that noobs perspective I've used

41:17 Android pretty extensively on tablet but I haven't used it much on a phone so

41:23 this should be this should be fun uh why don't we do a little bit of Twitter and

41:26 then let's move into your down unless you had something you really wanted to do uh no but considering we peeped at it

41:31 a second ago Saints Row 4 is announced I think this is one of if not the one of

41:36 the first games to be announced since the

41:40 THQ since THQ was dissolved people are asking me to do an os10 I switched yeah

41:45 Over My Dead Body you can quote me on that too yeah seriously um Saints R 4

41:50 release date August 20th in the states August 23rd in Europe oh awesome so I I

41:56 think that's the first game that has been announced since the since THQ was

42:01 dissolved I might be wrong so don't quote me on that but okay cool

42:05 yeah um blah blah blah blah blah blah

42:08 like first game announced that was a part of THQ

42:12 obviously can neither of you guys

42:15 recommend that what's that CM Storm Mouse we use at the

42:18 office spawn oh it's a spawn okay sorry I we haven't tried the Sentinel Advance

42:23 2 Mouse but the spawn is actually better way better than I thought it was nice

42:26 for really nice for claw yeah really nice claw tracks well tracks on a

42:29 variety of surfaces we've used it extensively now cuz it's hooked up to our display computer in the ncx tech tip

42:35 studio so um yeah let's move into I

42:38 don't see anything that interesting on Twitter so uh let's move on to your

42:43 downgrade so why don't you start can I actually just steal that sandwich from

42:47 you and then you can make a new one and I'm going to take a couple bites while you talk about your experience with

42:52 Windows 8 I'd like you to cover it from a number of different angles I actually

42:56 um Swit to my laptop just throw it on top

43:00 of there and I'm going to go now down on your sandwich here how long using for it

43:04 each how long using it for each yeah in

43:07 like each of those different scenarios so you used it on Notebook desktop and

43:11 you haven't really spent much time with it on touch but

43:14 Laptop touch okay I've spent basically a

43:17 completely negligible amount start with why you started on Windows 8 okay I

43:21 started on Windows 8 because uh my laptop was a development laptop and I

43:25 got Windows 8 from school so I was like Hey might as well do it so I started

43:30 with the developer preview um it was for a laptop though and all I really did on

43:34 that laptop was basic coding which is invi inside an environment so Windows 8

43:41 isn't really going to mess with that that much and then I was exporting that and testing it on other machines not my

43:46 own machine um and

43:49 then basic web browsing like I wasn't doing very much with that laptop at all

43:54 so didn't really get tons of usage out of that and that was not a touch screen

43:57 laptop you had some frustrations at the beginning like shutting down I okay I

44:01 had some frustrations a lot of frustrations shutting down I find

44:04 getting to the charms menu if you don't have like this is a touchcreen Windows 8

44:08 laptop that I'm on right now if you have a touchcreen you just swipe in and it

44:13 comes in very nicely and you swipe out and it goes out very nicely and that's

44:16 awesome if you don't have a touchcreen it sucks um that's mainly to do with when

44:21 it first came out I've noticed it got a little bit better but I still don't like

44:24 it I don't like putting my mouse there and like waiting

44:28 then having it just not come up and then I'm like guys I want to can I can I shut

44:34 down please and then Metro like or I

44:38 guess not Metro modern UI is that it's official name modern UI is not for me at

44:44 all I don't like it um again maybe a lot better for touchscreen almost definitely

44:49 a lot better for touchcreen but I'm not into it as a desktop user experience it

44:53 looks amazing it feels really good

44:57 but it takes too long like I'm I just

45:00 want to press Start type in my stuff and go for it that was resolved by uh

45:05 Windows 8 classic start which I downloaded through 9ite can I uh can I

45:09 chime in on Modern UI so one of the issues with modern UI and you look at

45:14 even other popular touchscreen interfaces like iOS and Android they are

45:19 very touchy very swipy but they don't actually get rid of the folder structure

45:25 yeah they still have it and it's still and that was one of the frustrations I

45:28 had with Windows Phone 8 and I think is similar to your frustration with modern

45:32 UI because if modern UI had tiles but

45:35 you could actually have sub tiles you probably would use it it would probably

45:39 be fine carry on that probably would not be a big deal at all um I'm kind of a

45:44 sucker for having cool backgrounds um so

45:47 I like seeing my desktop and I like having a clean desktop I always go uh

45:51 view don't show icons so I can have nice very very clean backgrounds even on my

45:56 phone the home screen of my phone is

45:59 completely blank

46:02 um if I can get past all these popups the home screen of my phone is

46:05 completely blank you can't really see very well right there but there's no icons except for the mandatory ones at

46:10 the bottom which I can probably get rid of if I ROM it with something weird but

46:13 it is not currently romed with something weird so there's mandatory icons on the

46:16 bottom um okay so those are like the

46:20 initial feelings with my laptop although

46:23 not a big deal and I just kind of left it there because that was not a high

46:26 usage laptop file copy is amazing I I'll go into that but I didn't

46:31 really do that way too much on my laptop anyways um then I'm like okay Windows 8

46:35 is released I have an official version I'm going to try and dive in because I I

46:39 had to reinstall uh my Windows 7 installation on my desktop was pretty

46:44 messed up and was probably going to stop booting pretty soon because of how

46:47 messed up it was that was my fault by the way um I'm not going to go way too

46:51 into it but yeah um I had to reinstall

46:55 so I was like okay I might as well dive in and try Windows 8 I've got everything

46:58 on my data drive anyways I'm just reinstalling an operating system and

47:02 basically ning my program so it's not really that big of a deal um Nite by the

47:06 way if you're wondering why I keep saying this weird word it's n i nit T

47:10 and then just that.com and you can go to the website it's really awesome way to

47:14 install a whole bucket full of programs that you usually install when you're

47:18 setting up a new computer anyways anyways okay so user experience

47:22 with my desktop a few random problems that I haven't seen a ton of people

47:26 complain about um but I know it's not my Hardware because I've tried it with

47:30 other installs with Windows 8 and another uh no I mean other installs with

47:34 Windows 7 sorry it's I get random screen

47:37 flickers where it will just like in about a quarter of a second

47:44 it'll just invert my screen and then flip it back and I'm like whoa what just

47:48 happened and then other times it'll just go completely black screen but only on

47:52 my main Monitor and it's not my driver I

47:56 re like like I've done tons of troubleshooting for it um then I've got

48:02 other problems like just just weird like

48:05 things won't really work very well like have a lot of problems with USB 3 um

48:09 really you had told me about that one I kind of got it working but like it's

48:13 still just like sometimes it won't detect things um and just like just

48:20 weird problems with that some games like I can't play crisis Warhead speaking of

48:25 games not being we played over here you

48:29 guys can kind of see it this test bench is I'm doing 8350 versus 3570k I've done

48:34 pretty much all actually yeah all of the Windows 7 testing that didn't take me

48:38 very long because everything worked and then I had to set up a new SSD I knew

48:43 everything with Windows 8 and the idea was we're going to do Windows 8 versus

48:46 Windows 7 we're going to do Windows 8 on its own we're going to do like like

48:50 we're going to try and do a whole bunch of stuff to add on to Logan's testing

48:54 with 3570k versus 8350 so I to do a whole bunch of scenarios that he may not

48:58 have done yet so we can just add to the discussion because that's a really interesting really good discussion um I

49:04 couldn't play Witcher 2 wouldn't play

49:07 Metro 2033 would not pull any save files

49:11 from the ice cuzy for who knows why um

49:16 Dirt 3 wouldn't play like all this stuff would not run at all so I tried

49:22 reinstalling just absolutely everything and I think I'm going to be

49:27 trying that again on Monday hopefully if I have some time I'll probably have some

49:31 time um so hopefully that will actually work this time and that's not my own

49:34 personal rig but that is something I've directly worked on so that is a personal

49:39 experience um ah what were some of the

49:42 other problems certain programs have weird permission requirements like for

49:47 steam to be able to run you need to run it as an administrator why it's steam

49:52 come on for xfire to be able to run on Startup it needs to be always run as an

49:59 administrator why why right like why

50:02 that's so weird and like a lot of these problems were like okay I guess I'll go

50:06 change that and allow this program to have administrator rights for whatever

50:10 reason um but it's just bizarre it wasn't that big of a deal but it was the

50:14 screen problems that I had which finally booted me off did we get into the bit

50:17 where we assumed Windows 7 and Windows 8 would have equal gaming performance

50:22 because they're based on the same kernel using the same driver pretty much wasn't

50:25 even going to talk about those numbers we can bring it up if you don't mind talking about it before the video yeah

50:29 well we're not let's not go into depth but guys we have a Windows 7 versus

50:32 Windows 8 using Intel and AMD I told

50:36 them set of gaming comparisons coming and we are seeing some pretty

50:41 interesting weird stuff 20% performance drops going from Windows 7 to Windows 8

50:45 and then sometimes where sometimes equal and then sometimes where there's a huge

50:49 drop but then that's without anti-aliasing and then I add

50:53 anti-aliasing and nothing changes for frame rates like exact same frame ratees

50:58 running these to replicate to see if we can replicate it and it's just like

51:02 Bizarro land kind of stuff and rerunning them like a lot more than I normally do

51:06 because I'm like no no no no this is weird so with all of that said I think

51:10 you and I can both still agree Windows 8 is optimal for a device like this it's

51:15 awesome for touch it's great for touch it's great for tablets it's awesome for

51:19 all that kind of stuff I mean if you want a mobile x86 platform so this is

51:23 the Iconia w700 we have an unboxing that's going to be uploaded soon

51:27 outstanding something like a touch notebook would you go Windows 7 or

51:30 Windows 8 um for most my use cases for a

51:33 notebook I'm not gaming whoa I totally missed that I'm not

51:39 gaming for most my use cases for a notebook so not gaming um web browsing

51:45 work in Excel work in PowerPoint work in word all that kind of stuff yeah yeah

51:50 honestly I love this notebook so much in fact I'll take it back from you now um

51:54 and Windows 8 is part of it the touch screen touch screen is one of those

51:57 things where people say oh I can scroll just as easily with my keyboard and

52:00 mouse you know what you don't necessarily want to sit with your hands on your computer while you read an

52:05 article so maybe you want to rest them and maybe it's faster to just go scroll

52:10 scroll scroll and sometimes the user experience of just being able to go uh

52:14 that or I want to do this and just like touch the things is kind of nice instead

52:19 of using these interfaces um so yeah

52:22 just to recap I don't hate Windows 8 I don't even dislike it it's just not

52:26 perfect for my desktop user experience I will probably stick with it on my laptop

52:31 um and I don't have a tablet so yeah so I probably won't be moving to Windows 8

52:35 on my desktop um I just installed Windows 7 last night on my personal rig

52:39 I had to reformat because of a an a situation where I accidentally unplugged

52:44 half of my RAID array uh while the computer was powered on and that doesn't

52:48 really work so well with raid zero yeah raid zero it's not a good thing um so

52:52 anyway I went Windows 7 partly because

52:55 of the gaming experience that we're having on the test band chair although I don't know how much of that could be

53:00 just we need to we need to do a lot more

53:03 we haven't replicated it on a second machine yet yeah do that as well so you

53:08 know take all that with a grain of salt um but aside from that spending some

53:13 more time with it on the notebook here I mean I don't like having things like

53:17 control panel moved around on me I don't like having things like search moved

53:21 around on me um and the search is weird cuz it can only search in like files

53:25 settings what I meant the categories of search I find frustrating like why um

53:31 the start menu fixes a lot of the issues but not necessarily quite all of them

53:37 and it has its own kind of problems classic star has its own problems and I

53:40 really like arog glass yeah which is kind of dorky but I like being able to

53:44 see through the top of things and like you know what's weird you can make a

53:49 transparency for some of the stuff but not all but not everything like the

53:53 Bottom bar the Tas bar will go transparent but then the top bar top

53:58 bars will not and like at first he

54:01 brought that up he's like oh I miss AOG glass and I like no big deal and then

54:05 I'm like oh well I use it I kind of want

54:09 it back I use it I use it to see what's under stuff like even just that top bar

54:13 that little sliver and it just looks right oh I know it looks so good like

54:17 you should be able to see through it like no I don't know not a big deal one

54:21 thing that I'm going to miss a lot which you again don't care about no wait no

54:25 not the file copy not okay file copy amazing so good I wish I could just like

54:30 download the file copy UI I mean Terra copy is okay but it's not well

54:34 integrated with Windows no not very well and like yeah whatever um and then and

54:41 then task manager the new task manager is really no no I agree 100% new task

54:45 manager is outstanding so I'm going to miss those two things and then one thing that you don't care about at all but if

54:50 you are running a whole bunch of backgrounds and you have them switching

54:54 if you have multiple monitors each one can have its own background there has to

54:58 be some third party utility there is third party utility is it one you have

55:02 to pay for it okay two it just sucks

55:05 okay so like H I don't know all right

55:09 then um yeah so there you go

55:13 guys what are your impressions of Heart of the

55:17 Swarm okay so I haven't played enough multiplayer yet the campaign is awesome

55:23 um if you like RTS campaigns especially if you like star I suggest going and

55:27 playing it and play it all the way through because the story wraps up kind

55:31 of nicely there's a few times where I'm like really did you really just do that

55:35 why did you just do that but it ends up wrapping us wrapping up very nicely um

55:40 multiplayer some of the new units that came out are really cool interesting fun

55:46 all that kind of stuff balance I think might be a little bit odd right now were

55:50 they weren't they thinking of removing carriers they were going to remove carriers which was going to remove me

55:54 from the game because I just have that's like classic I love carriers man and

56:00 like whenever I get to late game it's always fun to just like play normally

56:03 and then all a sudden be like carriers because they never expect it oh so much

56:07 fun um anyways so and like okay the

56:11 unbalanced thing is coming from a person

56:14 that plays protos and is finding certain units on protos unbalanced in a way that

56:18 they're slightly overpowered so I'm not being biased being like Oh Taran and

56:23 zerich are overpowered like there's certain units on my team that are kind

56:27 of nuts um there's one flyer unit that has a whole bunch of abilities but you

56:31 can change its mode talk as if you're talking to them and they know what you're talking about you you can change

56:35 its mode which makes it constantly use energy but that means that it can now

56:39 shoot it can't normally Auto attack um but it's really fast moving and it

56:43 doesn't cost nearly as much as say a a

56:46 void Ray um so you can get it in behind

56:49 Minal Lin is you can get it in behind

56:52 mineral lines really really quickly activate this energy ability and just de

56:56 imate mineral lines and then fly them away the energy will constantly go down

57:00 even if you're not shooting so you have to be careful with toggling it and stuff

57:04 but just the speed at which you can clear minion lines or uh mineral lines

57:10 is insane and they're really fast and they're not that expensive so you can

57:13 pump out three and then jump behind the guy's miral line and just like clear it

57:18 and that's game over and just be like sup GG Noob have fun making a little bit

57:22 more money not being able to afford anti-air turrets and having me just rewipe your mineral every time it's

57:27 they're really good and now like I've only played a couple multiplayer games I

57:31 honestly don't even really know the new units for the other races um so I'm

57:35 probably not the best person to talk to about this and there might be really good counters for them and realistically

57:40 they might suck um but every time I've used them it's just been kind of

57:44 ridiculous I've just disallowed the other team from having workers at all so

57:51 I don't know that's kind of cool but not fair so yeah really really fun I need to

57:56 get more used to it I've been out of Starcraft for a while I haven't played

58:00 for a really long time ladder matches last night was like the first time I've

58:05 done ladder matches in months right so I'm pretty out of it but maybe next

58:09 stream I'll be able to come back with a much more knowledgeable opinion on it on

58:14 the multiplayer side at least so overall recommended for 39 I was surprised to

58:18 see a $ 39.99 price point it's not a full price expansion yeah that's awesome

58:22 that is cool and especially from someone like blizzard who who's like yeah

58:27 release full price expansions all the time but then yeah it's not a full price

58:30 expansion the campaign is not short I beat it in two days but that was like

58:35 that was two pretty intense days I had to saw yeah I like would disappear after

58:40 work and then stay up until like 5 or 6 in the morning and then come

58:45 back to work the next day you were so crabby in a couple of those

58:50 mornings um like you're baned I was going to I was tempted to be like look

58:54 you can't play Starcraft until that late at night and come to work cranky like

58:57 that but that's what was important um

59:01 yeah that is the important thing I suppose beating a video game they they

59:05 added a lot of really cool changes now um there's levels so you're

59:11 like your person levels up I guess I think you gain levels depending on what

59:15 race you're playing so like I'm a whatever level protos and I could be a

59:19 different levels Z I think and while you're playing like as you spawn units

59:24 as you kill units as you build buildings you gain experience and then you gain

59:28 experience depending on like how long the game was and all this kind of stuff which add a cool Dynamic which is more

59:33 fun for not the extremely hardcore players which is like oh cool I'm

59:37 leveling upov more stats stats and

59:41 achievements exactly there's way more of that kind of stuff in the game which

59:46 honestly it it is kind of cheesy but I just love it it's cool I like leveling

59:50 up in Starcraft I like getting experience in Star cuz just like oh

59:54 that's cool like I I built this unit and then killed this dude so I got

59:57 experience for building the unit and I got experience for killing him like I

60:01 don't know it's kind of cool it is cheesy but it's kind of cool I like it

60:05 did you ever uh yes we do have a build log of the week okay I'll have to I'll

60:08 have to open that up on there when we get a minute next time you're talking for a bit but um why don't we move to

60:14 Twitter we've still got a lot here why don't we burn through some of the quick

60:18 some of the quick discussion topics okay so corer released 3 gigahertz that's

60:23 3,000 mahz memory um did you you see

60:26 this yet no okay curiously enough they released it under the Vengeance branding

60:31 rather than Dominator yeah so they're Vengeance modules so they're not using

60:36 the custom PCB they're not using or they might be using a custom PCB okay that I

60:40 don't know don't quote me on that but they're Vengeance modules they are going

60:44 to be extremely limited production and

60:47 extreme overclockers only need apply

60:51 because not only do you have to have the 3 gigz memory which is going to be

60:54 really expensive for two 4 gig dims but you will also need to have a CPU that

60:59 can actually handle 3 GHz on the uh

61:02 integrated memory controller and will that they can't all do that will that

61:06 like actually heat up DDR3 probably I

61:11 can't imagine this is like a stock voltage there's no way that's like cuz

61:15 DDR3 doesn't heat up that much no but the binning process that's going into oh

61:20 God 3 GHz I don't even want to know that's probably why they're Vengeance

61:24 modules because the volume of modules

61:28 that they would have to build to bin enough 3 GHz kits to ship because

61:34 Vengeance are a higher volume part compared to dominators that's probably what happened so there you go there's

61:38 the answer to the question that I couldn't figure out by me yeah yeah

61:42 someone just commented in the twitch chat he's like finally he said something

61:46 you actually need liquid cooling for but I was like yeah you don't really need to cool RAM so maybe you will actually have

61:52 to cool your RAM I mean these are intended for like liquid nitrogen

61:55 cooling yeah so expecting people to push these well beyond 3 gz oh yeah so that's

62:00 kind of neat if you're into memory overclocking I think very few people are

62:03 these days though no as far as I know not so much so there's a rumored oh okay

62:09 this uh oh you know what I wanted to do this I'm going to uh I'm going to go to

62:15 the Linus Tech tips forum and I'm going to go to the news section because I do

62:21 like to check our Tech news and reviews section on the Forum and uh pick out

62:27 guys who posted news threads that I thought were interesting so our 3 GHz

62:32 memory News Post was from seai Bell I

62:37 don't know whatever I don't know what that is so at only $749.99 uh this was

62:42 uh this was posted by one of the members of our Forum also there was a post on

62:47 the AMD 7790 and NVIDIA GTX 655 TI that

62:53 are rumored to be released at some point point so I don't know uh I don't know

62:58 anything about these cards to be perfectly honest I don't know if they're real I don't know if they're actually

63:02 coming but what I would imagine that they are because I don't think there's

63:05 any new architectures coming right now um what I'd imagine they are is they're

63:10 just overclocked 7770 and uh 650 TI

63:14 probably that makes sense because they both overclock well um like 7 7770

63:20 particularly is like yeah a beast overclocker so they could just go okay

63:26 higher power envelope turn the clock speed up 7770 is one of my favorite cars

63:30 to overclock CU it's just like um so that's probably what's coming

63:35 on that side they're likely to line up

63:38 sort of perfectly with each other because they're going to be speed bumps

63:41 of cards that compare reasonably well although I'd expect the 7790 to continue

63:45 to beat the 655 TI um if that's what they end up

63:51 being called all this is complete speculation and rumors I know nothing

63:54 about them which is why I can talk about them right if I knew I wouldn't be able

63:58 to talk about it um because of our

64:02 results where our overclocked

64:05 7770 competes very favorably against the overclocked 650 TI so that's what leads

64:10 me to believe that a higher bin of both versions right would favor AMD so right

64:16 uh so there's that one so that one was posted by

64:21 artorius on the Forum so let's go ahead and I'm going to S Like a Warrior all

64:25 arus sorus so he's got some Sapphire's

64:29 official Facebook announcement as well as so he's got references to other sites

64:33 which is good we don't want just random rumors that don't refer to anything so

64:38 that's uh that's exciting so there was another one this one was the one aha so

64:43 game developers say PlayStation 4 will

64:46 outow most PCS for years to come now

64:49 when we actually click on it this was started by Dragon Tale Dragon Tale that

64:54 was a bit of a tionalist headline there

64:58 because what the game devs actually said if we read a little bit further here is

65:04 recent debate about new console something something has developers

65:08 starting to come out and say that the PS4 will outperform entry level Hardware

65:13 in the PC market that includes graphics

65:16 cards around 4 gigs of RAM for years to

65:19 come so okay couple of things here um

65:25 number one is entrylevel PC Hardware is

65:30 so far behind high-end PC Hardware I

65:34 mean you look at entry-level graphics cards things like a 610 a 610 is still

65:40 basically a lowend firmy like that was is a six I

65:46 don't think 610 is even Kepler I think so and and even like back when in the

65:50 400 series I think they rebadged 210 at

65:55 some point point and made those 400 series like there's a lot of rebadging

65:58 that goes reing happens all the time on the lowend stuff because quite frankly

66:02 they sell them for so little that it's hardly even worth the R&D to redevelop

66:05 the chips the people who are buying these cards are more interested in

66:08 features like multim monitor than gaming

66:12 um I I maintain you shouldn't buy a graphics card that's less than $100 if

66:17 you're spending less than $100 on a graphics card you might as well put it in a piggy bank and save up for a

66:22 platform upgrade because you can get Apu platforms you buy new CPU memory and

66:28 motherboard for a couple hundred bucks that are going to outperform an

66:32 entry-level graphics card from either NVIDIA or AMD we have videos from quite

66:35 a while ago now actually but Apu videos

66:39 they do really well y like surprisingly well if you want entry-level gaming

66:43 performance don't buy an entry-level gaming graphics card because that isn't

66:46 what it is buy an APU just do it uh CPU performance is decent it's not it's not

66:51 on par with Intel but the graphics core

66:54 is way ahead of what Intel's delivering right now although Haswell May shift

66:59 things around a little bit because I was looking at the um the amount of core

67:03 space that Intel is allocating to GPU

67:07 CPU is like not going up at all in terms of the actual size like it's going to be

67:11 just optimizations from what I can tell but then what they're doing on the GPU

67:15 is they're like doubling it wow like way more die space so that's that's exciting

67:20 well they needed to compete there a bit more to be honest so so anyway so yeah I

67:24 mean saying something like it they'll be competitive with entry I mean Xbox 360

67:28 is probably still competitive with entry-level PCS that's like a

67:31 six-year-old console it's like wow how far into your crystal ball did you have

67:35 to look for that with that said the vast

67:38 majority of people out there are not running gaming computers and that's

67:42 something that we enthusiasts forget about sometimes there's a lot of 8800s

67:45 there's a lot of 260s there's a lot of stuff that's way crappier than that

67:49 that's true there's a lot of like you know 8600 GTS still out there there's a

67:55 lot of 8500s still out there lot of previous stuff still out there there's a

68:00 lot of Gamers who are still living at home with their parents using whatever

68:05 computer their parents bought from a big box store one of my like they want to

68:08 play games but one of my really really really good buddies is running an an

68:13 eco-friendly 8800 that only has one uh

68:17 PCI Express power plugin that's exactly the same as the

68:21 regular 8800 there's a little tidbit for you it was just a it was just a revision

68:27 to the core that made it slightly more power efficient it's power its

68:31 performance is exactly the same as a non-co well we've benched it and they

68:34 were different that's very maybe that's binning or something that happened there

68:38 that's very strange we'll have to look I'll have to

68:42 look into that one more outside of the stream um but yeah he still plays

68:47 absolutely everything yep and you know the the reality of it is uh the PCS sort

68:53 of you know the greatest thing about about it and the worst thing about it is

68:57 the flexibility of the hardware so you can make a game for PC and if you make a

69:02 game for 90% of the PCS out there the way blizzard does you end up with games

69:07 like Diablo II that look like they're 10 years old but the reality of it is that's

69:13 still a PC game and consoles Next

69:16 Generation consoles will be ahead of that level for a long time yeah because

69:19 you you can develop for exactly the spec Y which is nice so there's that

69:23 optimization that goes on as well um if we don't have anything we should

69:27 jump on Twitter we haven't really been on Twitter at all yeah sure let's jump on Twitter for a little bit see if uh

69:32 see if anyone's got any Twitter things if I could actually get the window open

69:36 that would be great there we go I do so

69:40 love this little uh keyboard mouse thing LOL my friend got ripped off at fries

69:45 they said 800 watt power supply water cooling Etc nope he wasted money on a

69:49 gt640 3 gig and that's another thing about that statement from the game DS

69:53 what do you mean a 4 gab graphics card that doesn't mean anything you could put

69:57 4 GB in fact I think someone did put 4 gigs of memory on a low-end uh gt600

70:03 series I'm just looking at that come on

70:06 that card is going to be bottlenecked by the time it fills up 512 Megs of vram

70:12 because any modern game that actually has highres textures a turn them off

70:16 because they're not going to run on that card and B you're going to be running at

70:20 such a low resolution you're not going to need the vram

70:24 anyway um we usually mean competitive in terms of performance I think re in that

70:30 3200 integrated GPU I think that's an older one from like the express chipsets

70:35 that's not quite the same as an APU just throwing that out there it's me playing

70:39 games with a 9800 yep 650 TI with one or

70:42 two gigs vram one one gig vram is fine

70:45 for 650 TI is it interesting the T balancer T balancer

70:50 next one can you talk about your tea balancer uh I've talked about this on the live streams before so I don't want

70:56 saying recommended he's asking if he should buy one we've talked about why we

71:00 liked it we haven't talked about why we don't like it it's really hard to configure it's such a pain it's hard to

71:05 even find an English version of the stupid software last time I did it which

71:08 was like a couple years ago mind you I tried to do it more recently and could not get an English version working I

71:13 think you have to get the German version and then you have to figure out how to

71:17 change it to English within the German version reading the German menus and

71:20 apparently that works so like like there's a lot of usability things that

71:23 are kind of weird but once you have it set up it's set and forget you never

71:28 touch it again I I didn't touch it for literally years and it just

71:32 automatically configured everything through multiple rebuilds of my computer

71:35 I just didn't change anything about my T balanc or just remembered which fans

71:38 kind of plugged into what and like it's awesome but you're going to have to fight with it a bit that's all okay we

71:43 are going to have a featured rig from the forums a featured build log but I

71:46 don't I don't want to click on anything in Twitter right now just in case it's

71:50 like goatsy or something I'm trying to OC my 777s but can only get a small over

71:55 clock you got way higher try turning up the voltage that might be

71:59 something oh oh you know what I think I might have made a mistake PC computer

72:03 geek might be right we usually line up 7770 with the non-ti don't

72:08 we yes TI is lined up with do we even I

72:13 don't remember okay you'll have to check that out I'll get that one

72:17 sec um no we yeah no he's right because

72:21 it's 650 I'm just do we even run 650 TI I don't think we do so there you go we

72:24 were totally wrong in that whole discussion about that any giveaways

72:28 today probably no giveaways today yeah we run 650 660 660 Ti and 670 is the

72:34 Aries 2 all sold probably ATI can only

72:37 use physx by running calculations off the CPU how much of an impact on FPS is

72:40 this well a lot of games it's like kneecapped by the way that FSX is

72:44 implemented so yeah you never explained

72:48 Cherry MX green switches in your mechanical keyboard Techquickie video

72:51 can you explain its advantages and disadvantages it's basically heavier

72:55 blue and the reason we didn't talk about it was because find a keyboard that

73:00 actually has okay I know there are some but they're very well yeah but that's

73:04 not even out yet we're not they're not even supposed to be talking to us about

73:08 that you're going to get them in trouble sh I they previewed at CIS they

73:11 previewed it at CES but there are very few keyboards out there with Cherry MX

73:15 green and it may gain some popularity moving forward but they are more

73:19 expensive and they are much less rare than the usual blue red brown black key

73:24 switches they have it on their website as new for 99 bucks okay well there you

73:29 go okay apparent 99 Only is that a 10 keyless oh yeah that's an expensive 10

73:33 key list then yeah that's still keyboard with green switches all right exciting

73:38 he he just said they're heavier Blues they also have a more accurate actuation

73:41 Point Blues have a slight problem that people and like okay this I use

73:46 exclusively Blues on everything um but Blues have a slight problem where if you

73:50 float right under the click you can um

73:54 hit the actuation Point repeatedly so there's double tapping issues that

73:58 people will have if they're trying to click really really quickly where they'll accidentally go back down before

74:03 they click and they'll actuate it too many times so the actuation point is not

74:08 exactly on the click greens is way more

74:11 accurate in that aspect than Blues now in saying this Blues are pretty darn

74:16 accurate like you're not going to have you're not going to have this problem

74:19 that often but that is a notable difference is the greens do have a more

74:24 accurate click an actuation Point level okay little bit more Twitter uh is

74:30 it worth it to oh uh corser 200 R is a good good budget case uh we're using one

74:34 for our video capture PC that we're running on right now is it worth it to

74:38 get a big bang 2 that supports 128 GB of RAM I don't know if I would run wait

74:42 where are you going to get 128 gigs of RAM on an x79 you need 16 gig dims so

74:47 good luck with that rumors of those are they coming soon coming out soon non ECC

74:52 16 gig dims rumors okay I don't know

74:55 I've just read You' be spending a fortune on it by the time you spent that

74:59 much on 16 gig dims if this is for a video editing and rendering station get

75:03 yourself a dual socket super micro board throw a couple of zons in there and then

75:08 get lower density 8 gig dims and fill it up just fill it up and then you can get

75:12 your 128 gigs of RAM and get more processing power and a proper

75:15 workstation platform at the same time probably for a fairly uh not at the

75:21 price 16 gig dims will probably be probably a fairly competitive price

75:25 cheaper yeah yeah to be honest lus wanted to get your opinion should I wait

75:29 for the 900d or get something now like a phantom 630 Phantom 630 is not very

75:33 comparable to the 900d I mean 900d is a monster 630 is quite like it's a mid

75:38 Tower almost it's like full steel and aluminum isn't it yeah it's like full

75:41 metal for the 900d whereas a very plastic design for the 630 I think you

75:45 need to decide exactly what you want and then decide what to buy I'd probably go

75:50 with a 7950 or a 60 TI I mean that's a

75:53 good M oh 347 maybe a 660 660 is a great value or a

75:58 7870 or 7850 when is slick going to upload

76:02 videos to his YouTube channel that is for that channel that you see when I

76:05 comment on YouTube videos is for replying to comments on YouTube videos I

76:10 am not planning on releasing anything on that channel uh Slick's personal rig has

76:13 been updated yep uh people asked you to talk about your personal rig and we never

76:17 talked about it during the Windows 8 thing okay um I'm running I'm water

76:21 cooling with a t- virus and a 12.3

76:26 um PA 12.3 donated by someone very

76:31 gracious um I'm running a 2600k and

76:35 moving to a GTX 670 water cooled this

76:39 one's very very short yeah it's really short very short mini card it's

76:43 literally about this looks really small in the 800 it's a little bit ridiculous

76:48 um but it actually kind of works for my water loop yeah cuz it'll be in the right

76:53 position to so you won't have to re replum and buy you tubing so it actually

76:57 kind of works um I have a lot of I don't

77:01 want to do a personal rig update video because I have a lot of work on that rig

77:04 that I need to do before I want to release a personal update video uh the

77:08 mineral oil rig had enough novelty in it that it was just kind of awesome um but

77:14 like currently I love the power that's there's like junk growing in his Loop

77:17 and he doesn't want to show you guys actually that goes away and comes back

77:22 because of the silver fittings right now it's not there is it not there right now

77:26 no it's not oh that's weird but it comes back it's the silver fittings it cleans

77:29 it and then gets dirty it's because I don't think I have enough if I had

77:34 silver fittings on my D5 okay I think it would be

77:39 enough like eight silver fittings in it yeah have six yeah okay um if and adding

77:44 in that graphics card might actually solve it okay if I add two more silver

77:48 fittings there that might actually fix my problem okay or I can just add a kill

77:52 coil or something but anyways uh I still need to like lik seve my power supply um

77:56 yeah your power supply looks ghetto it's a high current ugly it's awesome power

78:00 supply yeah High current Pro 1200 wat or something ridic it's beast and like

78:04 unnecessary but whatever um but totally

78:07 beast and ugly super ugly so I need to

78:11 sleeve that um I'm in an 800d but like

78:15 the front looks horrible it's a little bit broken there's some scratches like I

78:19 I need to so beat up like it's really beat up um one of my roommates that I

78:23 had who was often Under the Influence

78:27 utilized the cardboard panels from the

78:30 box for my 800d to build

78:33 something I was I came home and I'm just

78:37 like what and this is like weeks afterwards cuz I just had the box for it

78:41 in the back room and never really thought about it right and I'm like K well I can't transport my 800d in a box

78:47 anymore it's just so heavy which is insanely really hard to move around and

78:51 like have it not like if it SL like once it gain momentum if it starts moving in

78:56 the back of a car it's going to smack and then that creates scratches so like

79:00 it's it's an 800d but it's like probably one of the least attractive 800 DS in

79:05 existence not really um but it's it's

79:08 not doing so it's down there it's definitely down there so that needs to

79:11 be replaced I need to leave my cables like there's work that needs to be done before I want to release but you're

79:15 saving for a car I'm saving up for a car he's saving for a car so he can drive me

79:19 around for a change instead of the other way around yeah so like it's going to be

79:23 a while but yeah that's that's my rig can we put like um like benchmarker SL

79:30 programmer SL shofur on your business cards when we have them printed oh my

79:34 God we got to do that that would be so amazing that would be perfect we have to

79:38 have chauffeur on we should have leaky chauffeur you'll have to Leaky chauffeur

79:43 yeah his car now actually the roof leaks it's a Pontiac which should be all you

79:47 it's a convertible in BC it got cold and it cracked it's an old car PTI old

79:52 probably leaked at the beginning no no no it's an old car why do you defend the

79:56 Pontiac cuz I like that car what is good

80:00 everything about it is terrible it doesn't even have cup holders that's

80:05 stupid it's convertible you don't need cup what do you mean it's a convertible

80:09 you don't need cup holders nothing slides with you I was

80:14 hoping you wouldn't notice that that's that's like I can't even compare that to

80:18 anything that's like saying it's a it's a it's a it's it's a Rancher it doesn't

80:24 need it was my first car it's gotten me around and it's awesome in the summer

80:29 it's amazingly awesome in the summer you know the cruise around with the top down

80:33 in the summer when it's hot is just kind

80:36 of awesome okay Pontiac whatever your car

80:40 be Leaf runs oh I need to change

80:45 gears okay we're still moving well maybe if I wasn't driving your huge ass around

80:51 everywhere my car would still run it was broken weigh about double what I do what

80:57 I thought we figured out actually no it's not

81:00 bad whatever you look like you weigh um twice as hard to look at there

81:06 Bam Bam um what was I going to say I don't

81:11 care I can't even remember whatever something about your stupid car I like

81:15 my car um something about your personal

81:19 rig oh yeah you're saving up for a car so you're not going to do all the

81:22 upgrades right away that's right away yeah but I am planning like eventually

81:25 all this will happen and then I will eventually release a rig update but like

81:30 I wouldn't I wouldn't hold up for it uh new slore fans for my PC or save

81:35 up for a GTX 680 lightning I don't know if your computer's really loud I've done

81:40 cooling upgrades as opposed to performance upgrades but it really depends what video card you're running

81:44 now although 680 lightning isn't necessarily the best choice unless you

81:48 want to run 3D Vision or NVIDIA um or rather um 3D Vision or fiz X orud go

81:54 what games you play and then check out some of our videos yeah 7970 may end up

81:58 being a better choice for you like something like a um sh what's that ASUS

82:03 one The Matrix one Matrix 7970 is awesome card we did an NCI Tech tips

82:08 quite a while ago showing that even without the never settle driver it was

82:11 already the fastest single card went overclock to the Max and we ran into

82:15 gains to 680 lightning and the never settle driver is like kind of a big deal

82:20 yeah kind of a huge deal Sean contributes that Windows 8 has been

82:23 super Shady on his Grand mother's new computer apparently to run some

82:27 Microsoft games in Windows 8 you need a new app and steam's not providing it so

82:31 that might be something for you to look into I uh we're probably not going to do

82:35 a video on OC Basics because we do specific videos on NC Tech tips for

82:39 every new platform anyway so just go check out our overclocking guides over

82:43 there and you should pick up pretty much most of what you need to know my mouse

82:48 isn't working oh there it goes yay it's

82:52 back and honestly the Windows 8 comments like the usability of different things

82:56 is like I was able to deal with that it's the monitor randomly inverting and

83:00 going black right that I'm not able to deal with because like I've died so many

83:05 times in games just cuz I'm like oh I have a black screen and I can't do anything for six or seven seconds and in

83:09 a lot of games when you can't do anything for six or seven seconds you're

83:13 kind of scream um okay a little bit more Twitter Q&A so Robert asks if his fx8350

83:19 showing four physical cores and eight logical cores and task manager is normal

83:22 and it I don't know is that normal because pile driver cor P pile driver

83:27 modules have are sort of like a core and a half yeah they're they're funky but

83:31 it's not quite like not a core at all the way hyperthreading is so it's

83:36 probably normal as long as it shows eight logical then it should be fine by

83:39 the way slick defense fer kindly so

83:43 basically my car is a Ferrari it's a Pontiac Ferrari built by Pontiac

83:49 Ferrari slick can drive to wreck beach in his convertible Pontiac exactly that

83:54 is how classy a convertible Pontiac

83:58 is Bam and welcome lime fire the Lexus

84:03 LFA has no cup holders and it's an amazing car don't judge a car by its cup

84:07 holders okay okay how about this how about the fact that the Pontiac has no

84:11 cup holders and isn't an amazing car how

84:14 about the cup holders are just one thing for me to pick on in in like 20 years

84:19 all it's needed is new spark plugs okay

84:23 bam and pretty good runs great and a serious like non suckitude

84:28 makeover uh is slick a family member how is he always with you he works me way

84:32 too much yeah that's pretty much it I'm not getting paid right now actually

84:36 you're not no no although you're salaried so technically you are getting

84:40 paid right now just not very

84:44 much like really

84:48 small are you planning a project car I can't imagine you you're not that

84:51 mechanically inclined are you I do okay

84:54 I do I right my dad is okay and then I

84:57 kind of get some from there my dad's kind of a wizard when it comes to

85:01 anything so um Chris I don't think we need more heat sink manufacturers I

85:05 think Scythe exiting the North American Market was sort of all we needed to know

85:09 they had for that yeah good unique products and couldn't make it over here

85:14 because we have enough heat SN manufacturers be quiet! recently moved

85:18 over even yeah they did recently is um I have a blah blah blah blah yep

85:25 definitely go for it Richard do you think Samsung's features are actually

85:28 useful or just bloat Weare ruining Android what monitor are you going to

85:32 use now that your old one broke my mother always told me if you

85:35 don't have anything nice to say do say anything at all skip over it and address

85:39 the next question um I am I don't know he's thinking about

85:46 a leonitis yeah I'm looking into the leonitis I'm thinking about getting

85:50 repaired I would love to drop like five

85:53 grand on Sharp's 32 in 4k monitor but I

85:57 think my wife would kill me like absolutely kill me so

86:03 um yeah I don't know yet if I can repair

86:07 the 305t for a reasonable price then I'll do that in all likelihood just

86:10 tuned in from England yay hi England uh my main question with the tea balancers

86:14 can it actually switch the fans off absolutely the fan curves are fully

86:18 configurable and fully actually work although I'd recommend using voltage

86:22 control and I probably wouldn't recommend using WM fans have you thought

86:26 of combining forces with 10 Syndicate or do you plan to continue to be

86:29 competitors 10 Syndicate well Logan's on the east coast and we're on the west

86:33 coast so unless yeah unless one of us was planning to move I don't think we'd

86:38 be like merging our companies because he's running his own business now too

86:42 much the same way that I am um however I really don't see us as competitors

86:46 Logan's awesome we like Logan yeah we like Logan like a lot I mean we've

86:50 emailed him we've like Twitter chatted with him I've never met him in person

86:53 unfortunately that I'm hoping to at some point but uh yeah we guys hey go

86:59 subscribe raise the world with a zero not to no um on YouTube Tech Syndicate

87:04 go subscribe because Logan's a good guy and his format is so different from ours

87:08 it's good I mean I like it we both do benchmarks but his news show is much

87:13 more structured it's more of a recorded show whereas our news show is like live

87:19 Q&A um subscribing to both channels you

87:23 have that much of a Content style overlap and you would probably if and

87:27 you'll get a couple different perspectives yeah it's cool get M slicks

87:31 Logan uh subscribe to Paul Hardware as well as well as uh awesome sauce news

87:35 that's Kyle from Newegg yeah all good all good

87:40 guys uh okay let's see 520 watt 80 plus

87:44 Platinum is that the uh the passive one if so good work Melvin because the pass

87:48 is boss you know what I figured out I think that one is built on the

87:53 same plat form as the XFX th000 watt Platinum that I'm using yeah yeah you

87:57 told me about that and the fans on my radiator are air penetrators so they're

88:03 directed air flow so if I at least have that one running a little bit I will can

88:07 have no fan at all in my power supply because 520 watts is lots for what I'm

88:11 doing in fact is it 520 or

88:14 550 5 520 yeah I can see it it's over

88:17 there uh how about how is pump rattle in

88:21 the h100 uh neither of our h100s is bad

88:24 yeah I I owned an IBM model M for a little while and then someone took it

88:30 back from me after I cleaned it up how many Canadian viewers do you have I I

88:35 don't know

88:39 400 42 five six first time I watched the

88:44 stream in real time all right can't pronounce your name but that's cool whoa

88:48 is an SLI config of 660 non TI okay you

88:51 know what probably not a bad idea 660 is not that far behind the TI and as long

88:56 as you don't need the extra vram of getting a higher end card with more

88:59 video memory you should be able to get a pretty significant performance boost to

89:03 the tune of of better than you would do by selling a 660 and getting a 670 or

89:08 something like that um dark genin it's

89:12 not N Night classic start I just

89:15 download classic start I think it's Classic Shell for Windows 8 from the N

89:20 Night website just want to clarify that

89:23 uh I'm only 13 I'm not posting strange pictures yeah I was a perfect angel on

89:28 the internet when I was 13 too either way we don't want to risk it

89:33 because we've clicked on stuff that kind of killed people's ears before Tim

89:37 already knows the answer

89:40 n12 Logan likes one of your CES he likes one of our CES we did like 50 what a

89:46 jerk good enough don't subscribe to Logan I take back everything I said

89:49 before about subscribing to Logan I don't even care I still like Logan

89:52 whatever man okay let's see if we've got oh EVGA released their utility for

89:57 changing the lighting yes 690 and Titan

90:00 so you can uh lower the brightness increase the brightness you can set it

90:05 to breathing breathing mode which is like I love breathing mode for LEDs it's

90:09 just awesome although what I think I would probably do if I was balling

90:13 enough to have a Titan is I would set it up depending on GPU load it can go

90:18 brighter or dimmer so cool so cool that's the kind of stuff that really

90:22 makes me geek out that's awesome I love stuff like that that's why I like

90:27 um uh tactical tracers crucial tactical tracers RAM I tried to install the

90:31 application on my computer it just says unsupported motherboard I haven't done a

90:35 BIOS update though it's still running BIOS V1 and it's running that weird Zeon

90:39 chipset it's running a workstation chipset so I might try taking the

90:43 modules putting them in an x79 or like a z68 board or something and then moving

90:48 them and moving them back over cuz I think it saved on the modules themselves

90:51 I think so but I think so I don't don't quote either on that yeah we don't we

90:55 don't actually know so there what was I going to say yeah and

91:00 in combination that would actually be pretty cool oh that'd be so

91:05 cool probably want to do like an LED color swap on the Titan though like if

91:10 there you could probably do it cuz you could take the green out of the cooler and probably put in blue I bet it's not

91:14 even a colored LED looking at that color that's not a green LED color that would

91:20 be that would look so good like blue GTX

91:24 wo that would be cool uh speaking of

91:27 like mods and Rigs and stuff like that I'm actually just you should probably

91:31 not have your sending myself oh yeah guys please don't read my

91:35 emails uh I don't think there's anything here that's that bad but you've got

91:39 stuff from like from people so their names are there and stuff yeah that they

91:43 might care about that that email from that guy is like the most bizarre thing

91:46 that uh that I've seen in a while I don't even see it it's uh they want us

91:50 to promote some contest or something to win like a TV or something we talk about

91:55 the the I have no idea what you're talking about I don't know if I can talk

91:59 about here I'll type it one sec are you drunk no I just don't know how to

92:03 describe this sure yeah go for it um I don't even

92:08 know who it is it's um your it's uh oh

92:12 crap you know what let's just save it then cuz I can't remember who makes now they're all going to be like what H

92:16 we'll talk we'll talk about it later okay okay so let's do our featured build

92:21 blog of the week from the lonus tech tips Forum so our featured build log is

92:26 from joric wait a minute didn't we already feature this did

92:32 we uh oh what you talking about Willis did

92:35 we you have to log in all right I have

92:39 to log in to see images uh I can't change that I'm sorry I think we already

92:44 featured this one okay well jorck you're on again because it's too late for me to

92:50 fix it now um uh uh uh I had other

92:56 competitors okay live stream was very rush today

93:01 okay I don't remember my password for the Forum right now so we're not at our

93:05 best right now here

93:09 guys there we go I'm logged in was this the first one I think yeah I we

93:15 definitely featured this crap none of those were the completed pictures

93:20 anyways way to go did you show the wrong pictures when we actually featured it

93:25 oh I might not have showed I might not have showed all the pictures okay fine

93:28 just we're just going to feature yoro again go to the very last and we're

93:32 going to go to the very end of his build blog why you go

93:36 okay all right it's

93:39 not there it goes okay so we're going to

93:43 look at his build properly this time so

93:46 slick why don't you cover everything that's good about it here you can use

93:49 this to uh yeah this was apparently feature before sorry guys

93:54 guys this was very last minute we didn't have internet in the office today that

93:58 was so fail like so fail I had to try

94:01 and find a build log so I was trying to find build logs without

94:05 pictures which is like kind of hard to do you just have to go based on memory

94:09 of build logs you've seen before that are good so I was I was well I was

94:12 reading the comments and trying to figure out what was going on with this

94:15 one and I was like this sounds awesome so went with this and that apparently

94:20 didn't work out too great um tell us about the rig though that looks awesome

94:25 it looks amazing it's based on like crop circles that's why it's called

94:28 phenomenon so kind of cool cool naming to go along with your style a lot of

94:33 planning that went into this if you look into earlier posts like he gets into

94:37 actually um what uh like I think it's

94:41 called drafting I don't know if that's the official name for what he did

94:44 specifically but he drafted out like what he was going to do for this crop

94:48 circle and like the rest of the design of the case um a lot of really really

94:52 cool maet window this it's very clean

94:56 like you can even see that picture right there that is incredibly clean that's

95:00 outstanding this I never saw so there you go um he uses M&D PC sleeving MD MD

95:07 PC U oh I'm thinking million dollar PC

95:10 um like just insanely clean everything

95:13 about it is clean the I love the white fittings yeah I was just going to say

95:16 the white fittings are awesome um the the sleeving situation he has going on

95:21 is really interesting because a lot of people go with nice patterns and stuff

95:24 like one one or two two or like half and

95:27 half but he kind seen a lot of people do like one accent one or one accent one

95:32 but he kind of flipped it around a little bit and that's scary because you

95:35 can flip it around a little bit and it might not look very good and then you just sleeved everything doesn't look

95:39 very good but this looks really good we have a visitor

95:46 hi oh no okay well live stream's over

95:49 guys my cats are apparently outside so I need to go chase them they are uh

95:54 they're indoor cats because they're expensive and I don't want them to get

95:58 stolen and they're stupid and I don't want them to get dead so um thank you

96:03 guys for joining the live stream tonight I hope you enjoyed it we'll have the

96:06 archive up hopefully pretty soon and uh

96:10 good night everybody good night