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welcome to the live stream guys we've got a ton of cool topics tonight

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including uh I don't know what are our topics tonight I have a thing with

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topics but we've we've got some blackberry juice

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we've got um we've got one of the most incendiary things I think I've ever

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heard which is apparently some game developers are running around saying the

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PlayStation 4 will outperform PCS for years to come which app he doesn't

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understand anything about performance or hardware at all about anything although

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although uh it's funny because this was going to be one of our featured news

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items from the Linus Tech tips forum and I have to like the guy who who posted

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this one I give him props for posting in our news section because that's great

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and that is appreciated but he was a little bit sensationalist about his

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headline so I will uh we we'll clarify that once we once we move into that so

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why don't we start with something a little bit uh actually we've got a lot

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of crazy stuff to talk about we're going to talk about your Windows 8 downgrade

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uh we're going to talk about how I'm actually not going to be moving to

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Windows 8 on my personal rig I hope that

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uh Twitter managed to where the heck is the where's the uh the here it is I got

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it I got it I got it it's always behind you just always assume that it's behind

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you NOP I refuse to do that that is clearly Incorrect and a bad thing that I

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will not be doing at all always behind you oh did I leave the twitch stream on

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they came from behind yes oh yeah we'll be talking

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Starcraft Heart of the Swarm because we have an actual gamer on the show this

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week him they fit that in there by the way in the campaign there's a they came

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from behind yeah I was so stoked oh I love that so stoked when I heard it they

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also fit a Wilhelm scream into the trailer oh no way yeah a marine gets

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stepped on or I can't I can't do the willhelm

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scream hold on oh a no it's like

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impossible to recreate it's awesome though if you don't know what will Helm

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scream is YouTube it not now because it's in like every movie ever yeah

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especially Star Wars anything to do with Lucas Arts every Star War every Luca

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every Indiana Jones every Star Wars video video movie movie we make videos

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George Lucas makes movies or at least he did in the 70s and

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80s and you could argue he made they

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don't count those are videos oh that's okay I'm not going to get into

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original trilogy versus new Trilogy that would be an interesting live topic

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though uh we're going to talk batteries we're going to talk about oh okay so

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this is this okay here let's kick it off so the we've only got 20 oh okay the

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viewers are going up a little bit I'm just a little bit confused because I I'm

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never quite sure if the live stream starting now thing do you have to

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actually specifically announce on Twitch that you're

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streaming because I think there's like an announce button but I don't know how

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exactly that works you know what I'm not going to worry about it too much have no

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idea a few people said NOP or not really not really okay I got to get on this

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stream chat so let's uh let's get started with the belon link linkx

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acquisition is pretty much done so I got an email from my lyx contact today

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saying that his email is changing from his name at cisco.com to his name at I

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think I think it's going to be a linkis email now so Belin has come out and said

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okay we're keeping the two different uh streams of products separate so product

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development is still going to be separate um product uh branding is still

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going to be separate okay so when Cisco did the linkis acquisition in fact if I

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could find a Cisco I see I called it a Cisco router if I could find a linkis

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router lying around here somewhere I'd be able to show you they actually say Cisco right on the top yeah in

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fact that's what happened when lynis

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asked us to change cuz we originally oh

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yeah had our CES content branded Cisco because we couldn't find the linkis

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brand in use anywhere they probably already knew that

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it was coming soon so they were like oh yeah we saw your first video and we'd

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actually uh we'd really like you to change that to a linkis

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brand and stuff call taking that out someone

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complaining about it uh might have been audible no I heard it anyway so uh so

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yeah that's probably what happened there so anyway they're going to keep them separate and it's going to be pretty

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much business as usual for lynus as a

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separate good though I think so too because there's nothing wrong with the

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product no like we actually we did some

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really interesting testing with the EA was it the 42 or the 45 45 45 versus the

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N900 uh versus the N900 from WD and we

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found that without any optimization or tweaking of the qos at all it was just

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such a beast for very heavy Network like we did we did crazier stuff that we do

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on that Network like ever that was

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probably the hardest load we ever put on it and multiple Netflix streams a Skype

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call a game stream um and torrenting and

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torrenting yeah and we had like six or seven computers going so it was like

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crazy and it was like a lot of Torrance because we were pushing back and forth from school yeah so even things like the

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website are going to stay the same so you're not going to actually not I mean

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like linkis really wants to mess with it too much whereas with Cisco where they

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have that more premium branding I can understand why they'd want some trickle

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down effect and it's like oh so it should be worth more of a premium because we're we're Cisco and honestly

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like to most consumers they will probably have no

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idea that the sale and acquisition even occurred and that's probably a good

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thing yeah if they just nope nobody

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knows and that's exactly what we want yeah absolutely Ely I think not many

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people are watching yet so uh hopefully this has blasted on Twitter or Y there

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it is live stream starting now I see it so hopefully people uh tune in pretty

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quickly here because otherwise it's just us and our 400 most loyal viewers

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whatever man thank you guys for apparently planning your lives around

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being here to watch us live on our Friday night when we could otherwise be

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dating attractive women or or eating bacon or eating yeah slick I actually

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all right so I don't remember what hot Keys we use for um for switching scenes

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Keys oh yeah there we go yay Twitter okay so it's 2 a.m. in Argentina thank

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you for tuning in can you do live stream at a sensible time for us British

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European types we will change it eventually yeah the plan is to change it

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the plan is to change it probably time and probably day not probably day I

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don't want to do it on Friday nights I I don't think most people want to do it on Friday nights because most people like

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even if you're not going out you're probably wanting to game with your buds

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pretty sure they want to game with their buds yeah I'm pretty sure they want to game with their buds too someone's

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asking uh where happened to the Acer laptop oh it's still here slicks on my

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old MSI um like sort of gaming ready

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model that I try not to use cuz man it's heavy but it's kind of awesome because

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it's like quad core and stuff but uh there we go let's go ahead and go back

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to our can you please do a video on the

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his 7970 GHz Edition 3 gig what do you

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think of this GPU I think it's a 7970 GHz Edition and I think it has 3 gigs of

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RAM and I think his put their sticker on it that's what I think bam does it were

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you that Google has control over your job with AdSense have you thought of

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setting a paid subscription for your site there is no way we are implementing

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any kind of paid subscription for our content bye-bye every single viewer we

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have yeah I mean we love you guys and we know that you love us too but we're

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pretty sure that we we're all like nope

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premium content $5 monthly subscription you guys are going to be like yeah I'll

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just go watch someone else's unboxing video so um I mean we think we make good

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content and all that good stuff but for us I mean our value ad that will allow

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us to no longer give Google complete control over our livelihoods is our

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audience and if we alienate the audience then like we suck and on that note a

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like sponsors that we trust that we actually use so if you go you know line

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us what CPU you using in your computer I'm using an Intel CPU like at the same

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time and I've been using it for years not because because Intel sponsoring

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not hating on AMD in fact AMD particularly on the GPU side has been

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getting a lot of love Lately from us check out the what was the most recent

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one we did I think I'm of what's released okay Battlefield 3 yeah they

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won Battlefield 3 they won I think they've won every single GPU Showdown so

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far I think they won all of them and then like tied one or something yeah I

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think uh Battlefield 3 was more more of a tie and then Crisis 3 Ste red but

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still the top two spots in Battlefield 3 if you look at the overall chart which

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is poked in at the End by a little bit cuz there isn't really a good vocal

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segue for me to Overlay the overall chart but it is there so if you guys are

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watching the Battlefield 3 video go somewhere near the end and it just kind

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of goes hello and then leaves after a little while but check it out that's

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like the whole like all the cards on one big chart you can see the top two spots

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are actually MD cards there you go um although we have a new sponsor so Cooler

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can't even go that wrong I've got a quickfire TK upstairs that I use like

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whenever whenever your ducky was dead whenever my ducky was dead yeah or when

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my parents host for weekend easier to travel with like it's yeah it's nice and

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like it's pretty ruged too so cooler Master's on board now which we're really

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excited about and in addition to that we also just signed with twitch.tv as a

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um as well as hopefully you know not making us rely strictly on Google which

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delivering the videos to you guys they make all kinds of mistakes that honestly

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cost us a lot of money and a lot of headache um not not delivering our

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videos to our subscribers yeah subscription box I have um my personal

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private and it went public so we we accidentally broke embargo on the GTX

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of ridiculous so uh so yeah we still rely on them in a big way but we're not

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from Google's watching we'd still love you please don't shut off our Channel

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Don't Close Our Channel yes we like our Channel um okay so let's talk Galaxy S4

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actually you know what no let's go to let's go to Twitter for for a little bit of Q&A here let's see what you guys have

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to say about the show so far I'm just going to go ahead sorry if people notice

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that I'm looking down a lot I'm trying to get on Twitch but I can't log into my

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account so I'm oh I'm on Twitch over here yeah but I want to be able to

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monitor it here yeah okay we should just be monitoring it we should be monitoring

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the chat at all s because you guys notice when anything's wrong right away

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which is good uh Johnny blae says you should try the new BlackBerry Zed 10

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when you're done with the HTC1 I would love to if anyone from Blackberry is

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watching we'd love to hear from you we'd love to have an opportunity to try it

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out I mean it's funny because we've said

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that enough times like kind of joking but then there was that guy from Belle

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who watched and we called them we said that their customer support with butt

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heads so he called us and fixed it like fixed everything everything's perfect

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now and then um we called though rul sud

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y formerly a voodoo who apparently left a comment on our video um because we

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said that we weren't sure if any of the solid gold cases is sold yes and he was

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like yes we sold at least one $50,000 for that gold case which is just

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unbelievable um and you know what's what uh I checked it is him I had Josh follow

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up with him and find out if it was actually him and it actually was Raul if

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you're wondering where that comment came from on YouTube you can just set whatever name you want

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we hadama com I'm like I'm

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pretty prry has uh some other videos to

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watch that are not related to technology and whatnot pretty sure if he wanted a

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really good computer he would just kind of have a really good computer do you think the 7970 is better for Battlefield

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3 Call of Duty and Tomb Raider you know what we have to do Tomb Raider yeah I

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want to wait I want to wait till driver optim optimization I don't want to do

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too many beta drivers anymore because all the weird stuff that in a couple

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weeks so what we're going to do is we're going to wait till AMD and NVIDIA both

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drop pretty good driver optimization revisions okay then I'll run all the

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test test benches for that bench benchmarks not test benches yeah um run

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all run it on all the test benches every test bench we have U I'll run all the

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benchmarks for that and then we'll release a video on that right away and then you'll have your BF3 and Tomb

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Raider did he mention another game uh Battlefield 3 Cod and Tomb Raider so I

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mean Cod runs on like an atar I wouldn't worry about it man you're probably fine

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yeah it's probably okay just don't stress don't stress Jason it's cool all

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right speaking of which someone asked for a shout out to a Jason but a different Jason slick could you tell us

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about your personal rig maybe we'll cover that when we talk about your Windows 8 downgrade right someone asks

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is Razer really that bad because from what I hear in the Internet it's the

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worst branding in the world no I don't think that's true at all I mean like any

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company not every product is perfect but I mean the um orb weaver is by far the

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best game pad that we've ever encountered uh what was the name of that

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uh that controller the Sabertooth the one we saw

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at CES it's not tournament ready or is it tournament ready and the other one's

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not tournament ready oh that I don't remember it's either the previous razor

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the or Xbox controll I think it's no orca's a headset I know the one you Anza

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onza yeah um it's I can't remember if it was the Anza or the new saber tooth well

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the new one has those button on the bottom but they're removable are they

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not oh no and they're not macro ready right so the new one is tourament ready

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one right cuz you can't rebind all the buttons all over the place yeah so I

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mean and the build quality of it was outstanding especially compared to the

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to the older one which wasn't as good I mean that black widow ultimate is a very

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solid mechanical keyboard I mean guys I

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guess oh yeah and the blade the blade is

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probably right up there with guys like apple in terms of the build quality of

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that notebook All I'm gonna say I've owned two razor leosa or

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leus neither of them work okay so I

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think it's a mi mixed bag when you have people that have a bad experience then

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they're much more likely to talk about that than a good experience that's also

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very true and talking from my NC

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experience where I know what the sales numbers look like I can tell you right

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now if you see five complaints about Razer compared to some other gaming

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brand it might have something to do with the fact that they're selling five times

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more than them or more right so that's

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definitely a very valid and very large point I mean it was like that with ocz

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and ssds for the longest time where people like all the complaints I see

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about ssds are ocz well yeah all the ssds that are selling are ocz so what do

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you want me to say like yeah whatever

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man uh okay so let's go back I'm working on a prodigy build what does your wife

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think about you using the living room as a workshop for your personal rake I actually am not anymore my personal rig

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is almost done I'm working on a prodigy

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build I thought you finished well I still have to my uh the power adapter I

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made myself I made a left angle power adapter for my optical drive but I used

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wires that were too thin and they didn't bite into the thing enough so I have to

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replace that I have to fix the extension wire I was using for my four fans on the

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bottom cuz it like broke or something decrep it somehow I have to remount the

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top LED strip because the included adhesive with the phobias is not holding

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it in place so I'm going to use my double-sided velcro yeah and then I have

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to figure out how to bleed that Bloody T Virus so pretty close was it not it's

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getting there but I'm thinking if I stick like something in there and just kind of swirl it around that might help

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you can do that then you got to take those caps off and that's not always the easiest no no it's easy with the fill

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Port yeah you can just stick it through the fill Port I think it should be would

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you get tied up in the uh maybe in the

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Helix I don't know I haven't tried yet either way if you want to do shake this

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is like totally has nothing to do with the stream I don't want to shake the computer but if you want to do Shake we

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can lift it up and I can stabilize it you can shake oh I shudder to think

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because there's enough things that just are broken enough about it um we're not

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going to talk about bit torrent on the show we like to keep things clean but

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feel free to talk about bit torrant somewhere else uh thoughts on El joining

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the new egg crew I think it's I think it's a huge benefit for the new egg TV

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guys I mean he brings with him an enormous audience yeah he's he's got his

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crew basically like he's got all the guys that are going to follow him which is he's been around forever I mean you

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look at how quickly Tech of Tomorrow grew when he departed from motherboards

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org and channel pro it's going to be interesting departing from

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motherboards.org channelpro going to check of tomorrow which he was already

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kind of he was already kind of running on his own but like boosting it up and

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then ditch boost up he may I I don't

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know what his plan is I haven't talked to him he may maintain it because I know

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Kyle and Paul at least have their own channels do awesome sauce news and

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Paul's Hardware if you guys want to check them out Paul did a really good video review of the leonitis 30in IPS uh

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monitor that's available for like 600 700 bucks on eBay yeah um so guys check

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out his video of that if you're looking at a large format display which it

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happens I am because mine's broken

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now if you want the story on that because he probably doesn't want to

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reiterate it personal build personal rig update 15 has the it's pretty much the

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most depressing video I think either of us have ever filmed

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yeah yeah oh spring break is it spring

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break yes it's been so long since I've been in school I don't even think about

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it anymore maybe that's why no one's watching Linus please enable 240p

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viewing option I have no idea how to enable or

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disable different viewing options I think that's handled by twitch we stream

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at 1080p but I believe you can downscale it to whatever you want yeah I have no

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idea how to do that no

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idea um all right so let's move into our

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next discussion topic should we just let's just let's just hit the Galaxy S4

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now shall we boom so we cheated a little bit in our teaser video for the live

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stream where we said we had a Galaxy S4

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but actually we don't this is just a Galaxy S3 which should give you guys

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some idea of how different we think the S4 is from the S3 if you look at the

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front of the S4 the camera and these two

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little LEDs go slightly more vertical

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and this little indicator LED is now visible just like these ones no goes

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slight more hold on slow down slow down you're blowing my mind man it's visible

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you can see it's got the black ring just like the other ones it goes slightly

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more vertical and it comes all the way over here to go right beside the speaker

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no way hold on beside the speaker fan freaking tastic Game Changer I don't

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even know who could have possibly thought about that the button is like

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slightly more squared off hold on there's a

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button one button one button you can't

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put more than one button okay although with that said the HTC1 does not have a

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button I don't know if you noticed that I did there is no middle button there's

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an HTC I'm not sure what to think because

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you I you double tap home to get to your recent apps which is fine which is fine

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I'm okay with a double tap it's fast and the haptic feedback on this thing is

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outstanding okay holy crap let's stay focused on S4 focused on S4 okay okay

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physical changes carry on take it off and show what the inside different is

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okay so here I'll hold this one so the back from here all the way up to there

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is pretty much the same okay and then

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the flashlight Goes Down Under the camera

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and this disappears okay and that is innovation

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and it's do you have the specs up on your computer I can get it up in a

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moment get the full specs up cuz I'm going to start I'm going to talk about

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sort of the the philosophy behind what might have driven Samsung to go with a a

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very similar to Galaxy S3 design so no

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matter how much I rag on it it does kind of make sense yeah it kind of makes sense okay cuz when you looked at Galaxy

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1 honestly it wasn't a great phone no my

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wife has one it has not really served

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her well no not I'm not going to rag on them

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or anything but they knew it wasn't great Galaxy S2 came out pretty quick

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and revamped everything it went Amed it

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went uh way faster way faster it had a

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way better screen it was just better in every possible way and they completely

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reinvented it with the Galaxy S2 then Galaxy S3 came along and went okay we're

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going to turn every take everything that was good about the S2 and keep it we're

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going to go with a shape that's much nicer to hold did the screen get bigger

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I don't remember I think so I think it did I can't I can't remember Galaxy S2

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again though pretty sure it did didn't last that long and was replaced by a

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phone that was significantly better in every possible way and replaced it now

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Galaxy S3 hung around with us for a long time I mean this launched we did a video

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back around uh around launch so that's going to give me some idea of when it

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was but ncixcom

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Galaxy someone's probably already uh oh

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Galaxy video card eight months ago so so this launched almost a year ago like 9

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10 months ago and here we are finally

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Samsung's replacing it with the S4 which

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is similar but remember this time they're

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not replacing a phone that was fundamentally flawed in any way they're

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replacing a phone that was that did

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really well the number one selling smartphone yeah if you're

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Samsung do you reinvent the wheel when the wheels spinning really

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good one thing thing I brought up when we were origin talking this up yeah go

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ahead um um sorry that was funny uh we were in

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the car talking about it and I was like okay well if it's really similar form

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factor and just like awesome sauce specs compared to before why don't they take

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the Apple approach and just call it like

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not an S because it's already s because of Samsung but like the Samsung GS X

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right GS 3x or something like add another thing to the end because they're

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not changing not really really changing the form factor of the phone not

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changing stuff like that and then you I mean that's something apples gets away

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with though because they've been doing it for so long yeah I mean you know what

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an s means an s means an evolutionary

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change um I mean they've done this with iPad as well where they don't even

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Rebrand the damn thing anymore no they just go iPad IP with retina display so

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you when you buy an iPad you're buying an IP ad unless it's an iPad 2 so there

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was iPad iPad 2 and iPad yeah with Retina and I I mean maybe something like

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that would have been appropriate here as a Galaxy S3 Uber Edition or like

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whatever the brand like better branding than that but um but then branding

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consolidation is a really really big deal and that brings this into play okay

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let's talk about that later hold on I want to talk specs on this first so okay

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okay so Samsung's either going to have um a what is it Snapdragon S600 is it

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called S600 something something Snapdragon 600 something or other um so

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that's going to be a 1.9 GHz quad core

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which is pretty similar to the 1.7 GHz

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uh uh Snapdragon 600 that's in the HTC1

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a little bit faster although it has a beier battery 2600 milliamp hours

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compared to 2300 or 2350 or something like that um but there's going to be

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another version that's an octacore exus or whatever they call their thing uh

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that's an octacore that has 4 A7 cores and 4 a15 cores now would go as far as

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to say if their intention is to use

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those four cores either for power saving or performance it's still kind of a quad

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core can NVIDIA get away with calling Tegra 3 a five core cuz they kind of

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tried it at first and then they backed off on it cuz they have that that low

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power core and then the four performance on is that exactly how it's supposed to work switching for power saving my

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understanding is that's how the octacore is supposed to work cuz come on you're not going to benefit from an octacore

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like four equal cores and the Octor is clocked at 1.6 GHz so it's going to vary

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depending on region what spec you get so the HTC1 by contrast you're going to get

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the same spec regardless of region but there's six different versions

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supporting different bands for different regions that makes sense but you get the

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same CPU regardless um what else have they changed spec-wise so they've added

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so it's a 5 in 1080P I keep holding this because for all intents ofp I'll hold

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this far enough away that you can't tell uh it's a 5 in 1080P display Amed with

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the room rumors were that the Amed uh production line wasn't ready yet and it

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was going to be LCD but very exciting so you're going to get those deep deep rich

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blacks power savings assuming you're not looking at really bright stuff all the

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time that's really exciting um it's going to come with 4.2.2 Jelly Bean

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ridiculous 12 megapixel camera 13 13 yeah 13 megapixel camera with two on the

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front Cam and that leads us to another sort of comparison point between the

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we're not even going to be able to talk about the one cuz we're blending it here

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so HTC went for a bold departure from what

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everyone very bold instead of a high megapixel rear camera they have a 4

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megapixel rear camera hold on I'm G let that snc in for a moment there and you

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know what's kind of stupid is I had all my notes for the

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HTC um unboxing that we did earlier deleted them and I deleted them as we

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went but you for undo I think I've got it they're calling it Ultra pixel Ultra

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pixel camera sensor so this is is a 4 megapixel 3 in sensor with an f2.0 lens

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and Optical image stabilization that they're saying because of the larger

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pixels and the large sensors is actually able to capture more light and more

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detail even though the resolution that will appear when you right click

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properties resolution is actually lower

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and you were dinking around with it a little bit in the car on the way back and it looks like and also based on

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reviews that we're seeing of the phone that might be true it looks really good

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more megapixels may not be the solution so anyway Samsung has a 13 megapixel

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camera on this bad boy um it's available on a variety of

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different internal storage configurations and it does have a micro

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SD slot which the one does not that to me is so confusing the way HTC continues

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to not Implement micro SD in their high-end phones I personally never

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actually filled my iPhone 416 gig and you don't like but not everyone's like

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me some people want more storage there's a spot like they could have put spot

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right on the bottom there put a Micro SD slot there for crying out loud guys like

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you can't take off the back okay you can't replace the battery okay okay make

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an external plugin for it's a really small chip with that said the one only

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comes in 32 gig and 64 gig configurations going to be big so I

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would never manage to fill 30 I know that I actually will both of us won't I

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stream video to myself over my data plan I have a pretty generous data plan so I

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don't worry about it too much okay what else they got oh yeah so there you can

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interact with the touch screen without quite touching it although I don't know how valuable that is uh it apparently

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pauses video If You Look Away although their camera based eye tracking features

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have never necessarily worked for everyone so I don't know about that uh s

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Travel Trip Advisor oh they're adding some of the

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cool features from the Galaxy camera which we shot an NC Tech tips of today

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and is actually really cool yeah it's actually pretty awesome I just wish it

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had a phone in it yeah okay we were talking about this the galaxy C camera

432
00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:37,440
is running Android yes and Android Jelly Bean and we were thinking if you just

433
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:41,039
add like a speaker and a mic yeah it

434
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,360
supports it supports um it supports data

435
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:46,919
it supports data already with a micro SIM yeah yeah so if you're going to have

436
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,799
a plan for the stupid thing and you don't actually and and if you're one of

437
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:55,240
the I mean let's face it there are people out there who don't care about a

438
00:31:52,519 --> 00:32:00,039
thin phone these people exist and the Galaxy camera is not that thick like

439
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,240
it's probably if I took look at all the Samsung product placement here Samsung

440
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,559
ssds like if you took sort of a phone and a couple ssds it's kind of like that

441
00:32:05,639 --> 00:32:11,600
without the lens sticking out expand your storage today strap an SSD to your

442
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,960
phone I might be the kind of person who would actually say you know what for the

443
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:19,440
sake of having an awesome camera and video camera as a

444
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:23,039
vlogger maybe I don't care about a slim phone anymore if I'm going somewhere

445
00:32:20,919 --> 00:32:27,679
I've got my backpack that's right would you actually mind putting your phone SL

446
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,880
camera in like a drink pouch or something on your

447
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,760
backpack you can play games on it it would be cool if it had the

448
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:41,559
functionality so that I could bounce my sim right or just get you can get a

449
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,880
supplementary Sim yeah or do something like that something like that if I could

450
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,639
share the plan that would be awesome like a self family plan for your camera

451
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,360
and your phone and your tablet or something and your notebook or something

452
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,519
like that yeah because there's sometimes that I'm going to go and I don't have my

453
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:59,399
bag cuz that's probably where we're headed and I see no reason why I

454
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:04,200
shouldn't be able to take a phone call on my notebook if I feel like it yeah or

455
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,159
on my camera if I feel like it why not and while everyone's talking about

456
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:12,480
everything getting smaller and stuff and like phones Getting Thinner cameras like

457
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:16,200
you need the sensor you need the lenses you need the distance you have to have

458
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:21,039
that distance while neither of us are actually experts on cameras we know

459
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:25,480
basic physics we know Diesel and we know Diesel and we knew this before we knew

460
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:30,720
dies yes that's true and making the pixels small enough to the point where

461
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:35,360
like uh like the the the I forget what it's called whatever this I don't know

462
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:39,320
light light wavelengths yeah where the light wavelength actually is not even

463
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,120
going to be able to hit yeah cuz if pixel's too small you're trying to go

464
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:47,360
into a box this big with wavelengths like this you're just oversampling so so

465
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,840
yeah that's that's an exciting departure what else we got from Samsung's phone so

466
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:55,440
they amped up the battery life they amped up the GPU in a big way much more

467
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,360
powerful should be much more competitive uh Samsung nox will be supported so if

468
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:04,480
you want to bring own device BYOD is a big Trend right now um so you'll have

469
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:09,639
like a safety spot vers like where your your uh your your work can um sort of

470
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,839
admit it for you and you can DPN and then you'll have like a consumer one

471
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:18,040
where your Facebook pictures aren't not going to be accessible to your office or

472
00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:22,720
anything like that however Blackberry is moving their secure workstation over to

473
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,760
iOS and Android or secure workspace yeah secure workspace so maybe nox is coming

474
00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:31,599
along at a time when it may not even even end up mattering although this is

475
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:36,480
interesting because in my opinion if Blackberry did this two maybe three

476
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:42,320
years ago I think they would be in a way better position because blackberry's

477
00:34:38,359 --> 00:34:43,919
whole thing is workplace yep like it's

478
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,800
it's always been like they they are the business phone or at least they were

479
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:50,720
they were that's the problem a lot of people started moving their Blackberry

480
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:54,359
servers out and their Blackberry security and all that kind of stuff because people weren't using

481
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:58,240
blackberries anymore if Blackberry rolled this out so that people all

482
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,680
businesses kept their Blackberry infrastructure so your theory is that

483
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:08,280
then when Blackberry got competitive on Hardware again again they'd be instantly

484
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:13,720
easier to reintegrate everywhere right whereas if there's an infrastructure

485
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,040
change yeah because now people is a very

486
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:19,119
competitive phone oh yeah for sure um now people that ditched businesses that

487
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:23,839
ditched are going to have to if they want to roll out blackberries again go

488
00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:27,359
back again and doing another change is going to be hard to push through

489
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:31,880
management and you look at how long iOS and Android were Superior to blackberry

490
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:37,400
and yet how long it took businesses to move away from Blackberry because it was

491
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:40,119
so good like how how how Superior you

492
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:46,640
have to be to drive someone to your solution versus how mediocre you can be

493
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,280
and Coast on it yeah it's ridiculous and

494
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,319
like at the same time it's not battle but I'm kind of rooting for them yeah I

495
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,200
want Blackberry to live I really want Blackberry live the Z 10's an awesome

496
00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:00,400
phone I want to actually use one it's super light it's kind of like iPhone 5

497
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:03,200
light like just super I like

498
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:09,400
uh along those lines the S4 is getting lighter than the S3 and the HTC1 has

499
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:12,640
some heft to it with its like sexy uh

500
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:15,520
aluminum 200 minutes on a machine uh

501
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:20,240
shell that is just well it's like very premium compared to this was an

502
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:24,280
interesting one quick thing to add Blackberry I think if they still like

503
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,720
just to bounce back on this again if they still had their servers in place so

504
00:36:26,359 --> 00:36:31,400
if they gave out their software what they could have done with the Z 10

505
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:36,480
release is say look now we have another awesome phone with some added features

506
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:40,319
for Blackberry secure workspace so they could have differentiated and been a

507
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:46,640
been a standardized platform which would have driven more sales anyways continue

508
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:48,200
right uh okay what else we got here uh S

509
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:52,040
Voice blah blah blah have we missed anything oh it has wireless wireless AC

510
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:56,119
although I have no idea what performance is going to be like because based on our

511
00:36:53,400 --> 00:37:00,160
experience with like a USB AC adapter it probably won't be any different from in

512
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:05,480
it's that's my guess and like power power hungry I mean the actual full

513
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:09,839
performance AC Solutions we run into have heat sinks as big as a phone on

514
00:37:07,319 --> 00:37:14,920
them a little bit bigger actually yeah so uh we don't have it here do we

515
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:18,240
available 1632 or 64 gigs with plus the

516
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,480
micro SD slot and I think that's pretty

517
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:26,240
much it so let's wrap up with some of the highlights of the HTC1 so this has

518
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,319
got the same uh the same Snapdragon 600

519
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:34,760
processor in it 2 gigs of RAM just like the S4 it's got that Ultra pixel camera

520
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:39,079
it's got the ability to take crap zo zo

521
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:41,440
Z zois is that zo or zo Z Zoe so it's a

522
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:46,640
four to five still frames at a time while recording 1080p video which is

523
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:51,280
very cool I think yeah and the idea is that you'll have kind of like little

524
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,839
talking talking Snippets uh like motion

525
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,520
Snippets kind of like uh like the newspapers and the portraits in Harry

526
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,920
Potter daily profit yeah like in the daily profit and I think it's it's

527
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,280
either going to be really neat or it's going to be kind of gimmicky and I won't

528
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,119
end up using it but I actually don't know it's not one of those things like

529
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,400
um where you you look at it and you're just like ah skip through this stuff

530
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,119
tell me the spec of this stupid thing because I don't care about these gimmicky features so I'm actually

531
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:20,560
willing to give that a shot um boom sound is a huge Innovation and that's

532
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:25,079
something that Samsung could have done front-facing speakers come on guys why

533
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,560
did this take so long every tablet and every smartphone from now on should have

534
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:33,400
front-facing speakers you can write me down as having said that because it

535
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:39,960
matters if you actually expect this to be a Content consumption device music

536
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:42,960
movies games all of them benefit from front-facing speakers because cupping

537
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:47,839
your hand around the back of a phone to hear it properly is stupid and all the

538
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,720
complaints I get from people and it's funny I get a lot of complaints about

539
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:54,240
the audio levels being too low which is why we boosted them up tonight uh people

540
00:38:52,920 --> 00:39:00,119
are like oh I can't hear it because I'm on my phone and I'm like oh it's because

541
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,640
of your stupid crappy Ultrabook or phone

542
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:04,560
speaker that doesn't actually go loud enough and people who reply to those

543
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,400
people and say oh just turn your volume up they don't understand you guys are on

544
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,640
a phone not on like a desktop computer where you can just crank it up so we're

545
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:15,440
trying to get that addressed in recent videos and I hope we've done a pretty

546
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:19,319
good job of that so uh there's that they have an infrared emitter and uh receiver

547
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:26,599
built into the power button which I think is a really elegant way to do that so you can use it as a as a universal

548
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:30,920
remote and of course I mean the chassis just outstanding it's really easy to

549
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:35,480
hold in spite of the fact that it is 4.7 in and I do have small hands uh it goes

550
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:39,480
almost Ed to Edge and it is 1080p just like the S4 so this is

551
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:44,079
basically I guess it's also not out yet but I think it's going to be out first

552
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:47,800
it's basically like a higher end S4 and then slightly lower clocks much better

553
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:53,960
build quality right talking about release dates um Samsung S4 is I believe

554
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,560
April 20th um so coming soon exciting about a

555
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:02,400
month August no it is August it is no that's nope that's something completely

556
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,760
different okay so I don't know the release dates oh that was Saints Row

557
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:10,400
four by the way we don't know so forget

558
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,560
it we have no idea okay so the last bit about phones we're not going to talk

559
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:18,920
about phones anymore after this I don't think is that HTC's CMO actually came

560
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:24,520
out I don't think I told you this yet fight fight in words came out and said

561
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,880
Samsung's Galaxy S4 is quote unquote more of the

562
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:32,480
same whoa looking to grab some headlines there hey

563
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:36,240
boss that might be a good tactic for them right now that might be the way to

564
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:41,000
form of marketing sort of ride on the coattails of the Samsung marketing

565
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:44,720
engine which exists now for the mobile products so okay last thing last thing

566
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:49,160
actual last thing so guys for those of you who have been asking me to do an I

567
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:54,520
switched for Android I am doing it I'm going to be using the HTC1 as my Android

568
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,880
weapon of choice I'm done with Windows Phone 8 we'll be giving away the 8S soon

569
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:05,520
actually as well as a bunch of phones on the Forum uh soon uh hopefully next week I

570
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:09,119
guess think we can launch it it depends let's try and lach we're going we're

571
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,319
going to try and launch it next week um but yeah I'm going to do an Android eye

572
00:41:10,359 --> 00:41:15,520
switch and if there's anyone from Blackberry watching please let me know and I'd love to do a Blackberry I

573
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,560
switched after that so I can give you guys that noobs perspective I've used

574
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:25,119
Android pretty extensively on tablet but I haven't used it much on a phone so

575
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,680
this should be this should be fun uh why don't we do a little bit of Twitter and

576
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:33,520
then let's move into your down unless you had something you really wanted to do uh no but considering we peeped at it

577
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:39,079
a second ago Saints Row 4 is announced I think this is one of if not the one of

578
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:42,880
the first games to be announced since the

579
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:47,880
THQ since THQ was dissolved people are asking me to do an os10 I switched yeah

580
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Over My Dead Body you can quote me on that too yeah seriously um Saints R 4

581
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:58,079
release date August 20th in the states August 23rd in Europe oh awesome so I I

582
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:03,000
think that's the first game that has been announced since the since THQ was

583
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:08,480
dissolved I might be wrong so don't quote me on that but okay cool

584
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,800
yeah um blah blah blah blah blah blah

585
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:15,119
like first game announced that was a part of THQ

586
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,119
obviously can neither of you guys

587
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:21,480
recommend that what's that CM Storm Mouse we use at the

588
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:24,800
office spawn oh it's a spawn okay sorry I we haven't tried the Sentinel Advance

589
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,680
2 Mouse but the spawn is actually better way better than I thought it was nice

590
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,640
for really nice for claw yeah really nice claw tracks well tracks on a

591
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:38,720
variety of surfaces we've used it extensively now cuz it's hooked up to our display computer in the ncx tech tip

592
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,079
studio so um yeah let's move into I

593
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:45,800
don't see anything that interesting on Twitter so uh let's move on to your

594
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:48,960
downgrade so why don't you start can I actually just steal that sandwich from

595
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,920
you and then you can make a new one and I'm going to take a couple bites while you talk about your experience with

596
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,520
Windows 8 I'd like you to cover it from a number of different angles I actually

597
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,760
um Swit to my laptop just throw it on top

598
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:07,880
of there and I'm going to go now down on your sandwich here how long using for it

599
00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:09,319
each how long using it for each yeah in

600
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,440
like each of those different scenarios so you used it on Notebook desktop and

601
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:17,880
you haven't really spent much time with it on touch but

602
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:19,960
Laptop touch okay I've spent basically a

603
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:24,079
completely negligible amount start with why you started on Windows 8 okay I

604
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,839
started on Windows 8 because uh my laptop was a development laptop and I

605
00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:32,440
got Windows 8 from school so I was like Hey might as well do it so I started

606
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:37,760
with the developer preview um it was for a laptop though and all I really did on

607
00:43:34,839 --> 00:43:42,800
that laptop was basic coding which is invi inside an environment so Windows 8

608
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:49,319
isn't really going to mess with that that much and then I was exporting that and testing it on other machines not my

609
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:51,599
own machine um and

610
00:43:49,319 --> 00:43:55,920
then basic web browsing like I wasn't doing very much with that laptop at all

611
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,119
so didn't really get tons of usage out of that and that was not a touch screen

612
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,000
laptop you had some frustrations at the beginning like shutting down I okay I

613
00:44:01,319 --> 00:44:07,200
had some frustrations a lot of frustrations shutting down I find

614
00:44:04,839 --> 00:44:10,760
getting to the charms menu if you don't have like this is a touchcreen Windows 8

615
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,960
laptop that I'm on right now if you have a touchcreen you just swipe in and it

616
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,520
comes in very nicely and you swipe out and it goes out very nicely and that's

617
00:44:16,359 --> 00:44:22,880
awesome if you don't have a touchcreen it sucks um that's mainly to do with when

618
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:26,359
it first came out I've noticed it got a little bit better but I still don't like

619
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:30,680
it I don't like putting my mouse there and like waiting

620
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:38,079
then having it just not come up and then I'm like guys I want to can I can I shut

621
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:40,800
down please and then Metro like or I

622
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:47,000
guess not Metro modern UI is that it's official name modern UI is not for me at

623
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:51,760
all I don't like it um again maybe a lot better for touchscreen almost definitely

624
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:57,599
a lot better for touchcreen but I'm not into it as a desktop user experience it

625
00:44:53,599 --> 00:45:00,760
looks amazing it feels really good

626
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:02,440
but it takes too long like I'm I just

627
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:08,160
want to press Start type in my stuff and go for it that was resolved by uh

628
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,880
Windows 8 classic start which I downloaded through 9ite can I uh can I

629
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,800
chime in on Modern UI so one of the issues with modern UI and you look at

630
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:22,599
even other popular touchscreen interfaces like iOS and Android they are

631
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:27,400
very touchy very swipy but they don't actually get rid of the folder structure

632
00:45:25,319 --> 00:45:31,040
yeah they still have it and it's still and that was one of the frustrations I

633
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:35,960
had with Windows Phone 8 and I think is similar to your frustration with modern

634
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,880
UI because if modern UI had tiles but

635
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,559
you could actually have sub tiles you probably would use it it would probably

636
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:47,720
be fine carry on that probably would not be a big deal at all um I'm kind of a

637
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:49,200
sucker for having cool backgrounds um so

638
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:53,800
I like seeing my desktop and I like having a clean desktop I always go uh

639
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:59,000
view don't show icons so I can have nice very very clean backgrounds even on my

640
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:02,280
phone the home screen of my phone is

641
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:05,040
completely blank

642
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,760
um if I can get past all these popups the home screen of my phone is

643
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,559
completely blank you can't really see very well right there but there's no icons except for the mandatory ones at

644
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:14,960
the bottom which I can probably get rid of if I ROM it with something weird but

645
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:20,800
it is not currently romed with something weird so there's mandatory icons on the

646
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:23,800
bottom um okay so those are like the

647
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,280
initial feelings with my laptop although

648
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,960
not a big deal and I just kind of left it there because that was not a high

649
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,839
usage laptop file copy is amazing I I'll go into that but I didn't

650
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:38,280
really do that way too much on my laptop anyways um then I'm like okay Windows 8

651
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:42,440
is released I have an official version I'm going to try and dive in because I I

652
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:46,000
had to reinstall uh my Windows 7 installation on my desktop was pretty

653
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:50,040
messed up and was probably going to stop booting pretty soon because of how

654
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:55,680
messed up it was that was my fault by the way um I'm not going to go way too

655
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,200
into it but yeah um I had to reinstall

656
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,839
so I was like okay I might as well dive in and try Windows 8 I've got everything

657
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,000
on my data drive anyways I'm just reinstalling an operating system and

658
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,920
basically ning my program so it's not really that big of a deal um Nite by the

659
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:13,200
way if you're wondering why I keep saying this weird word it's n i nit T

660
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,800
and then just that.com and you can go to the website it's really awesome way to

661
00:47:14,839 --> 00:47:19,680
install a whole bucket full of programs that you usually install when you're

662
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:25,200
setting up a new computer anyways anyways okay so user experience

663
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,760
with my desktop a few random problems that I haven't seen a ton of people

664
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:32,040
complain about um but I know it's not my Hardware because I've tried it with

665
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:37,800
other installs with Windows 8 and another uh no I mean other installs with

666
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,680
Windows 7 sorry it's I get random screen

667
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:45,559
flickers where it will just like in about a quarter of a second

668
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:50,520
it'll just invert my screen and then flip it back and I'm like whoa what just

669
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:56,000
happened and then other times it'll just go completely black screen but only on

670
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,359
my main Monitor and it's not my driver I

671
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:05,480
re like like I've done tons of troubleshooting for it um then I've got

672
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,920
other problems like just just weird like

673
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,520
things won't really work very well like have a lot of problems with USB 3 um

674
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:15,280
really you had told me about that one I kind of got it working but like it's

675
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:22,920
still just like sometimes it won't detect things um and just like just

676
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:29,040
weird problems with that some games like I can't play crisis Warhead speaking of

677
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:31,119
games not being we played over here you

678
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:36,760
guys can kind of see it this test bench is I'm doing 8350 versus 3570k I've done

679
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:41,079
pretty much all actually yeah all of the Windows 7 testing that didn't take me

680
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:45,559
very long because everything worked and then I had to set up a new SSD I knew

681
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:48,280
everything with Windows 8 and the idea was we're going to do Windows 8 versus

682
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Windows 7 we're going to do Windows 8 on its own we're going to do like like

683
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:57,119
we're going to try and do a whole bunch of stuff to add on to Logan's testing

684
00:48:54,280 --> 00:49:00,040
with 3570k versus 8350 so I to do a whole bunch of scenarios that he may not

685
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:07,920
have done yet so we can just add to the discussion because that's a really interesting really good discussion um I

686
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:11,359
couldn't play Witcher 2 wouldn't play

687
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:16,280
Metro 2033 would not pull any save files

688
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:19,200
from the ice cuzy for who knows why um

689
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:25,720
Dirt 3 wouldn't play like all this stuff would not run at all so I tried

690
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:29,680
reinstalling just absolutely everything and I think I'm going to be

691
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,400
trying that again on Monday hopefully if I have some time I'll probably have some

692
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:36,559
time um so hopefully that will actually work this time and that's not my own

693
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:42,680
personal rig but that is something I've directly worked on so that is a personal

694
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,000
experience um ah what were some of the

695
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:49,319
other problems certain programs have weird permission requirements like for

696
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:55,440
steam to be able to run you need to run it as an administrator why it's steam

697
00:49:52,960 --> 00:50:02,480
come on for xfire to be able to run on Startup it needs to be always run as an

698
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,280
administrator why why right like why

699
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:08,319
that's so weird and like a lot of these problems were like okay I guess I'll go

700
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:12,799
change that and allow this program to have administrator rights for whatever

701
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:16,079
reason um but it's just bizarre it wasn't that big of a deal but it was the

702
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,000
screen problems that I had which finally booted me off did we get into the bit

703
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:23,640
where we assumed Windows 7 and Windows 8 would have equal gaming performance

704
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:26,799
because they're based on the same kernel using the same driver pretty much wasn't

705
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,760
even going to talk about those numbers we can bring it up if you don't mind talking about it before the video yeah

706
00:50:29,319 --> 00:50:36,319
well we're not let's not go into depth but guys we have a Windows 7 versus

707
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:39,000
Windows 8 using Intel and AMD I told

708
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:43,920
them set of gaming comparisons coming and we are seeing some pretty

709
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,520
interesting weird stuff 20% performance drops going from Windows 7 to Windows 8

710
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:52,000
and then sometimes where sometimes equal and then sometimes where there's a huge

711
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:56,000
drop but then that's without anti-aliasing and then I add

712
00:50:53,640 --> 00:51:00,960
anti-aliasing and nothing changes for frame rates like exact same frame ratees

713
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,640
running these to replicate to see if we can replicate it and it's just like

714
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Bizarro land kind of stuff and rerunning them like a lot more than I normally do

715
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:12,799
because I'm like no no no no this is weird so with all of that said I think

716
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:17,880
you and I can both still agree Windows 8 is optimal for a device like this it's

717
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:20,319
awesome for touch it's great for touch it's great for tablets it's awesome for

718
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,400
all that kind of stuff I mean if you want a mobile x86 platform so this is

719
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:29,119
the Iconia w700 we have an unboxing that's going to be uploaded soon

720
00:51:27,319 --> 00:51:33,640
outstanding something like a touch notebook would you go Windows 7 or

721
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:35,880
Windows 8 um for most my use cases for a

722
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,880
notebook I'm not gaming whoa I totally missed that I'm not

723
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:47,760
gaming for most my use cases for a notebook so not gaming um web browsing

724
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:53,160
work in Excel work in PowerPoint work in word all that kind of stuff yeah yeah

725
00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:56,640
honestly I love this notebook so much in fact I'll take it back from you now um

726
00:51:54,799 --> 00:51:59,640
and Windows 8 is part of it the touch screen touch screen is one of those

727
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,280
things where people say oh I can scroll just as easily with my keyboard and

728
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:08,200
mouse you know what you don't necessarily want to sit with your hands on your computer while you read an

729
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:12,200
article so maybe you want to rest them and maybe it's faster to just go scroll

730
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:17,200
scroll scroll and sometimes the user experience of just being able to go uh

731
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:22,680
that or I want to do this and just like touch the things is kind of nice instead

732
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:25,200
of using these interfaces um so yeah

733
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:28,799
just to recap I don't hate Windows 8 I don't even dislike it it's just not

734
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:33,520
perfect for my desktop user experience I will probably stick with it on my laptop

735
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,599
um and I don't have a tablet so yeah so I probably won't be moving to Windows 8

736
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:42,640
on my desktop um I just installed Windows 7 last night on my personal rig

737
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:46,559
I had to reformat because of a an a situation where I accidentally unplugged

738
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:49,400
half of my RAID array uh while the computer was powered on and that doesn't

739
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:55,200
really work so well with raid zero yeah raid zero it's not a good thing um so

740
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,640
anyway I went Windows 7 partly because

741
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:03,680
of the gaming experience that we're having on the test band chair although I don't know how much of that could be

742
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:05,200
just we need to we need to do a lot more

743
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:10,839
we haven't replicated it on a second machine yet yeah do that as well so you

744
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:15,440
know take all that with a grain of salt um but aside from that spending some

745
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,359
more time with it on the notebook here I mean I don't like having things like

746
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,640
control panel moved around on me I don't like having things like search moved

747
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:28,200
around on me um and the search is weird cuz it can only search in like files

748
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:34,599
settings what I meant the categories of search I find frustrating like why um

749
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:38,720
the start menu fixes a lot of the issues but not necessarily quite all of them

750
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:43,319
and it has its own kind of problems classic star has its own problems and I

751
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:47,040
really like arog glass yeah which is kind of dorky but I like being able to

752
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:51,960
see through the top of things and like you know what's weird you can make a

753
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:55,720
transparency for some of the stuff but not all but not everything like the

754
00:53:53,680 --> 00:54:01,920
Bottom bar the Tas bar will go transparent but then the top bar top

755
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:03,319
bars will not and like at first he

756
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:09,200
brought that up he's like oh I miss AOG glass and I like no big deal and then

757
00:54:05,799 --> 00:54:11,119
I'm like oh well I use it I kind of want

758
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:16,000
it back I use it I use it to see what's under stuff like even just that top bar

759
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,480
that little sliver and it just looks right oh I know it looks so good like

760
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:23,640
you should be able to see through it like no I don't know not a big deal one

761
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:28,160
thing that I'm going to miss a lot which you again don't care about no wait no

762
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:33,280
not the file copy not okay file copy amazing so good I wish I could just like

763
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:37,520
download the file copy UI I mean Terra copy is okay but it's not well

764
00:54:34,839 --> 00:54:43,119
integrated with Windows no not very well and like yeah whatever um and then and

765
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,200
then task manager the new task manager is really no no I agree 100% new task

766
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:52,319
manager is outstanding so I'm going to miss those two things and then one thing that you don't care about at all but if

767
00:54:50,359 --> 00:54:56,400
you are running a whole bunch of backgrounds and you have them switching

768
00:54:54,079 --> 00:55:00,040
if you have multiple monitors each one can have its own background there has to

769
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:05,720
be some third party utility there is third party utility is it one you have

770
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:09,240
to pay for it okay two it just sucks

771
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:13,480
okay so like H I don't know all right

772
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:16,240
then um yeah so there you go

773
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:19,960
guys what are your impressions of Heart of the

774
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:25,680
Swarm okay so I haven't played enough multiplayer yet the campaign is awesome

775
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,000
um if you like RTS campaigns especially if you like star I suggest going and

776
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,480
playing it and play it all the way through because the story wraps up kind

777
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:37,720
of nicely there's a few times where I'm like really did you really just do that

778
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:42,720
why did you just do that but it ends up wrapping us wrapping up very nicely um

779
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:48,599
multiplayer some of the new units that came out are really cool interesting fun

780
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:52,039
all that kind of stuff balance I think might be a little bit odd right now were

781
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:57,680
they weren't they thinking of removing carriers they were going to remove carriers which was going to remove me

782
00:55:54,839 --> 00:56:02,079
from the game because I just have that's like classic I love carriers man and

783
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,640
like whenever I get to late game it's always fun to just like play normally

784
00:56:03,799 --> 00:56:11,200
and then all a sudden be like carriers because they never expect it oh so much

785
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:14,400
fun um anyways so and like okay the

786
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,200
unbalanced thing is coming from a person

787
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,880
that plays protos and is finding certain units on protos unbalanced in a way that

788
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:24,960
they're slightly overpowered so I'm not being biased being like Oh Taran and

789
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:30,319
zerich are overpowered like there's certain units on my team that are kind

790
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:33,039
of nuts um there's one flyer unit that has a whole bunch of abilities but you

791
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:37,319
can change its mode talk as if you're talking to them and they know what you're talking about you you can change

792
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:41,799
its mode which makes it constantly use energy but that means that it can now

793
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:46,520
shoot it can't normally Auto attack um but it's really fast moving and it

794
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:49,520
doesn't cost nearly as much as say a a

795
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,520
void Ray um so you can get it in behind

796
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:54,240
Minal Lin is you can get it in behind

797
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:58,039
mineral lines really really quickly activate this energy ability and just de

798
00:56:56,359 --> 00:57:02,319
imate mineral lines and then fly them away the energy will constantly go down

799
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:06,760
even if you're not shooting so you have to be careful with toggling it and stuff

800
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:12,079
but just the speed at which you can clear minion lines or uh mineral lines

801
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:15,680
is insane and they're really fast and they're not that expensive so you can

802
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:19,720
pump out three and then jump behind the guy's miral line and just like clear it

803
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:24,119
and that's game over and just be like sup GG Noob have fun making a little bit

804
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:29,520
more money not being able to afford anti-air turrets and having me just rewipe your mineral every time it's

805
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,559
they're really good and now like I've only played a couple multiplayer games I

806
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:37,200
honestly don't even really know the new units for the other races um so I'm

807
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:42,799
probably not the best person to talk to about this and there might be really good counters for them and realistically

808
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:47,400
they might suck um but every time I've used them it's just been kind of

809
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:53,359
ridiculous I've just disallowed the other team from having workers at all so

810
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:58,520
I don't know that's kind of cool but not fair so yeah really really fun I need to

811
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:02,920
get more used to it I've been out of Starcraft for a while I haven't played

812
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:07,640
for a really long time ladder matches last night was like the first time I've

813
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:12,280
done ladder matches in months right so I'm pretty out of it but maybe next

814
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:16,559
stream I'll be able to come back with a much more knowledgeable opinion on it on

815
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:20,599
the multiplayer side at least so overall recommended for 39 I was surprised to

816
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:24,359
see a $ 39.99 price point it's not a full price expansion yeah that's awesome

817
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:28,559
that is cool and especially from someone like blizzard who who's like yeah

818
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,280
release full price expansions all the time but then yeah it's not a full price

819
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:36,799
expansion the campaign is not short I beat it in two days but that was like

820
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:42,520
that was two pretty intense days I had to saw yeah I like would disappear after

821
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:47,839
work and then stay up until like 5 or 6 in the morning and then come

822
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:52,880
back to work the next day you were so crabby in a couple of those

823
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:55,720
mornings um like you're baned I was going to I was tempted to be like look

824
00:58:54,039 --> 00:59:01,200
you can't play Starcraft until that late at night and come to work cranky like

825
00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:02,480
that but that's what was important um

826
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,839
yeah that is the important thing I suppose beating a video game they they

827
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:14,440
added a lot of really cool changes now um there's levels so you're

828
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,920
like your person levels up I guess I think you gain levels depending on what

829
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:22,119
race you're playing so like I'm a whatever level protos and I could be a

830
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:26,640
different levels Z I think and while you're playing like as you spawn units

831
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:29,920
as you kill units as you build buildings you gain experience and then you gain

832
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:36,240
experience depending on like how long the game was and all this kind of stuff which add a cool Dynamic which is more

833
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:41,160
fun for not the extremely hardcore players which is like oh cool I'm

834
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,240
leveling upov more stats stats and

835
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:48,480
achievements exactly there's way more of that kind of stuff in the game which

836
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:52,280
honestly it it is kind of cheesy but I just love it it's cool I like leveling

837
00:59:50,839 --> 00:59:56,440
up in Starcraft I like getting experience in Star cuz just like oh

838
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:59,480
that's cool like I I built this unit and then killed this dude so I got

839
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,280
experience for building the unit and I got experience for killing him like I

840
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:07,160
don't know it's kind of cool it is cheesy but it's kind of cool I like it

841
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:10,160
did you ever uh yes we do have a build log of the week okay I'll have to I'll

842
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:16,680
have to open that up on there when we get a minute next time you're talking for a bit but um why don't we move to

843
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:20,079
Twitter we've still got a lot here why don't we burn through some of the quick

844
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:26,280
some of the quick discussion topics okay so corer released 3 gigahertz that's

845
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,640
3,000 mahz memory um did you you see

846
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:33,680
this yet no okay curiously enough they released it under the Vengeance branding

847
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:39,240
rather than Dominator yeah so they're Vengeance modules so they're not using

848
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,559
the custom PCB they're not using or they might be using a custom PCB okay that I

849
01:00:40,839 --> 01:00:47,960
don't know don't quote me on that but they're Vengeance modules they are going

850
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:51,000
to be extremely limited production and

851
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,160
extreme overclockers only need apply

852
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:57,480
because not only do you have to have the 3 gigz memory which is going to be

853
01:00:54,839 --> 01:01:02,839
really expensive for two 4 gig dims but you will also need to have a CPU that

854
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:05,039
can actually handle 3 GHz on the uh

855
01:01:02,839 --> 01:01:11,039
integrated memory controller and will that they can't all do that will that

856
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:12,760
like actually heat up DDR3 probably I

857
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:17,839
can't imagine this is like a stock voltage there's no way that's like cuz

858
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:23,280
DDR3 doesn't heat up that much no but the binning process that's going into oh

859
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:28,640
God 3 GHz I don't even want to know that's probably why they're Vengeance

860
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:31,039
modules because the volume of modules

861
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:35,640
that they would have to build to bin enough 3 GHz kits to ship because

862
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:40,240
Vengeance are a higher volume part compared to dominators that's probably what happened so there you go there's

863
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,720
the answer to the question that I couldn't figure out by me yeah yeah

864
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:48,520
someone just commented in the twitch chat he's like finally he said something

865
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:53,440
you actually need liquid cooling for but I was like yeah you don't really need to cool RAM so maybe you will actually have

866
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,240
to cool your RAM I mean these are intended for like liquid nitrogen

867
01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:01,880
cooling yeah so expecting people to push these well beyond 3 gz oh yeah so that's

868
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:06,400
kind of neat if you're into memory overclocking I think very few people are

869
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:12,240
these days though no as far as I know not so much so there's a rumored oh okay

870
01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:17,319
this uh oh you know what I wanted to do this I'm going to uh I'm going to go to

871
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:23,640
the Linus Tech tips forum and I'm going to go to the news section because I do

872
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:29,559
like to check our Tech news and reviews section on the Forum and uh pick out

873
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:37,240
guys who posted news threads that I thought were interesting so our 3 GHz

874
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:38,400
memory News Post was from seai Bell I

875
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:44,000
don't know whatever I don't know what that is so at only $749.99 uh this was

876
01:02:42,279 --> 01:02:53,440
uh this was posted by one of the members of our Forum also there was a post on

877
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:55,880
the AMD 7790 and NVIDIA GTX 655 TI that

878
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:59,839
are rumored to be released at some point point so I don't know uh I don't know

879
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:04,440
anything about these cards to be perfectly honest I don't know if they're real I don't know if they're actually

880
01:03:02,359 --> 01:03:08,400
coming but what I would imagine that they are because I don't think there's

881
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:14,760
any new architectures coming right now um what I'd imagine they are is they're

882
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:16,079
just overclocked 7770 and uh 650 TI

883
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:22,599
probably that makes sense because they both overclock well um like 7 7770

884
01:03:20,359 --> 01:03:27,760
particularly is like yeah a beast overclocker so they could just go okay

885
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:33,039
higher power envelope turn the clock speed up 7770 is one of my favorite cars

886
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:38,319
to overclock CU it's just like um so that's probably what's coming

887
01:03:35,319 --> 01:03:39,799
on that side they're likely to line up

888
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:42,920
sort of perfectly with each other because they're going to be speed bumps

889
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:47,760
of cards that compare reasonably well although I'd expect the 7790 to continue

890
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:53,079
to beat the 655 TI um if that's what they end up

891
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:56,480
being called all this is complete speculation and rumors I know nothing

892
01:03:54,599 --> 01:04:02,839
about them which is why I can talk about them right if I knew I wouldn't be able

893
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:05,839
to talk about it um because of our

894
01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:08,559
results where our overclocked

895
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:13,720
7770 competes very favorably against the overclocked 650 TI so that's what leads

896
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:18,599
me to believe that a higher bin of both versions right would favor AMD so right

897
01:04:16,839 --> 01:04:23,920
uh so there's that one so that one was posted by

898
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:29,160
artorius on the Forum so let's go ahead and I'm going to S Like a Warrior all

899
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,960
arus sorus so he's got some Sapphire's

900
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:35,839
official Facebook announcement as well as so he's got references to other sites

901
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:40,480
which is good we don't want just random rumors that don't refer to anything so

902
01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:46,520
that's uh that's exciting so there was another one this one was the one aha so

903
01:04:43,279 --> 01:04:49,839
game developers say PlayStation 4 will

904
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,839
outow most PCS for years to come now

905
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:58,039
when we actually click on it this was started by Dragon Tale Dragon Tale that

906
01:04:54,520 --> 01:05:00,599
was a bit of a tionalist headline there

907
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:06,279
because what the game devs actually said if we read a little bit further here is

908
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:09,880
recent debate about new console something something has developers

909
01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:16,160
starting to come out and say that the PS4 will outperform entry level Hardware

910
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:19,839
in the PC market that includes graphics

911
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:25,799
cards around 4 gigs of RAM for years to

912
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:30,599
come so okay couple of things here um

913
01:05:25,799 --> 01:05:34,119
number one is entrylevel PC Hardware is

914
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:35,920
so far behind high-end PC Hardware I

915
01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:42,400
mean you look at entry-level graphics cards things like a 610 a 610 is still

916
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:47,880
basically a lowend firmy like that was is a six I

917
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:55,279
don't think 610 is even Kepler I think so and and even like back when in the

918
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:57,119
400 series I think they rebadged 210 at

919
01:05:55,279 --> 01:06:00,279
some point point and made those 400 series like there's a lot of rebadging

920
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,799
that goes reing happens all the time on the lowend stuff because quite frankly

921
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:07,599
they sell them for so little that it's hardly even worth the R&D to redevelop

922
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:12,960
the chips the people who are buying these cards are more interested in

923
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:15,240
features like multim monitor than gaming

924
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:19,400
um I I maintain you shouldn't buy a graphics card that's less than $100 if

925
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:25,079
you're spending less than $100 on a graphics card you might as well put it in a piggy bank and save up for a

926
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:30,880
platform upgrade because you can get Apu platforms you buy new CPU memory and

927
01:06:28,839 --> 01:06:33,359
motherboard for a couple hundred bucks that are going to outperform an

928
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:39,000
entry-level graphics card from either NVIDIA or AMD we have videos from quite

929
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:41,920
a while ago now actually but Apu videos

930
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:44,599
they do really well y like surprisingly well if you want entry-level gaming

931
01:06:43,319 --> 01:06:49,359
performance don't buy an entry-level gaming graphics card because that isn't

932
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:54,599
what it is buy an APU just do it uh CPU performance is decent it's not it's not

933
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,760
on par with Intel but the graphics core

934
01:06:54,599 --> 01:07:00,760
is way ahead of what Intel's delivering right now although Haswell May shift

935
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:07,200
things around a little bit because I was looking at the um the amount of core

936
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:09,720
space that Intel is allocating to GPU

937
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:13,520
CPU is like not going up at all in terms of the actual size like it's going to be

938
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:17,599
just optimizations from what I can tell but then what they're doing on the GPU

939
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:21,799
is they're like doubling it wow like way more die space so that's that's exciting

940
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:26,079
well they needed to compete there a bit more to be honest so so anyway so yeah I

941
01:07:24,279 --> 01:07:29,520
mean saying something like it they'll be competitive with entry I mean Xbox 360

942
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,680
is probably still competitive with entry-level PCS that's like a

943
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:38,799
six-year-old console it's like wow how far into your crystal ball did you have

944
01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:40,640
to look for that with that said the vast

945
01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:43,640
majority of people out there are not running gaming computers and that's

946
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:47,839
something that we enthusiasts forget about sometimes there's a lot of 8800s

947
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:52,680
there's a lot of 260s there's a lot of stuff that's way crappier than that

948
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:58,880
that's true there's a lot of like you know 8600 GTS still out there there's a

949
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:02,920
lot of 8500s still out there lot of previous stuff still out there there's a

950
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:06,839
lot of Gamers who are still living at home with their parents using whatever

951
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:11,520
computer their parents bought from a big box store one of my like they want to

952
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:17,679
play games but one of my really really really good buddies is running an an

953
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:19,799
eco-friendly 8800 that only has one uh

954
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:23,759
PCI Express power plugin that's exactly the same as the

955
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:29,040
regular 8800 there's a little tidbit for you it was just a it was just a revision

956
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:32,640
to the core that made it slightly more power efficient it's power its

957
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:36,799
performance is exactly the same as a non-co well we've benched it and they

958
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:40,400
were different that's very maybe that's binning or something that happened there

959
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:44,080
that's very strange we'll have to look I'll have to

960
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:49,719
look into that one more outside of the stream um but yeah he still plays

961
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:55,520
absolutely everything yep and you know the the reality of it is uh the PCS sort

962
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:59,440
of you know the greatest thing about about it and the worst thing about it is

963
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:05,199
the flexibility of the hardware so you can make a game for PC and if you make a

964
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:09,000
game for 90% of the PCS out there the way blizzard does you end up with games

965
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:16,520
like Diablo II that look like they're 10 years old but the reality of it is that's

966
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,920
still a PC game and consoles Next

967
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:22,239
Generation consoles will be ahead of that level for a long time yeah because

968
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:26,480
you you can develop for exactly the spec Y which is nice so there's that

969
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:29,000
optimization that goes on as well um if we don't have anything we should

970
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:35,279
jump on Twitter we haven't really been on Twitter at all yeah sure let's jump on Twitter for a little bit see if uh

971
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:40,520
see if anyone's got any Twitter things if I could actually get the window open

972
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:43,239
that would be great there we go I do so

973
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:46,960
love this little uh keyboard mouse thing LOL my friend got ripped off at fries

974
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:51,759
they said 800 watt power supply water cooling Etc nope he wasted money on a

975
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:55,400
gt640 3 gig and that's another thing about that statement from the game DS

976
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:59,560
what do you mean a 4 gab graphics card that doesn't mean anything you could put

977
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:06,920
4 GB in fact I think someone did put 4 gigs of memory on a low-end uh gt600

978
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:08,679
series I'm just looking at that come on

979
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:13,960
that card is going to be bottlenecked by the time it fills up 512 Megs of vram

980
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:18,000
because any modern game that actually has highres textures a turn them off

981
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:21,960
because they're not going to run on that card and B you're going to be running at

982
01:10:20,719 --> 01:10:27,000
such a low resolution you're not going to need the vram

983
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:32,679
anyway um we usually mean competitive in terms of performance I think re in that

984
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:37,520
3200 integrated GPU I think that's an older one from like the express chipsets

985
01:10:35,719 --> 01:10:42,400
that's not quite the same as an APU just throwing that out there it's me playing

986
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:45,480
games with a 9800 yep 650 TI with one or

987
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:48,320
two gigs vram one one gig vram is fine

988
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:52,080
for 650 TI is it interesting the T balancer T balancer

989
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:58,960
next one can you talk about your tea balancer uh I've talked about this on the live streams before so I don't want

990
01:10:56,480 --> 01:11:01,880
saying recommended he's asking if he should buy one we've talked about why we

991
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:07,280
liked it we haven't talked about why we don't like it it's really hard to configure it's such a pain it's hard to

992
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,199
even find an English version of the stupid software last time I did it which

993
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:15,679
was like a couple years ago mind you I tried to do it more recently and could not get an English version working I

994
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,480
think you have to get the German version and then you have to figure out how to

995
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:22,560
change it to English within the German version reading the German menus and

996
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:25,640
apparently that works so like like there's a lot of usability things that

997
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:30,600
are kind of weird but once you have it set up it's set and forget you never

998
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:33,679
touch it again I I didn't touch it for literally years and it just

999
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,040
automatically configured everything through multiple rebuilds of my computer

1000
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:40,440
I just didn't change anything about my T balanc or just remembered which fans

1001
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:45,080
kind of plugged into what and like it's awesome but you're going to have to fight with it a bit that's all okay we

1002
01:11:43,639 --> 01:11:48,679
are going to have a featured rig from the forums a featured build log but I

1003
01:11:46,679 --> 01:11:52,440
don't I don't want to click on anything in Twitter right now just in case it's

1004
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:56,719
like goatsy or something I'm trying to OC my 777s but can only get a small over

1005
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:02,120
clock you got way higher try turning up the voltage that might be

1006
01:11:59,719 --> 01:12:05,360
something oh oh you know what I think I might have made a mistake PC computer

1007
01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:13,320
geek might be right we usually line up 7770 with the non-ti don't

1008
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:14,880
we yes TI is lined up with do we even I

1009
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:21,000
don't remember okay you'll have to check that out I'll get that one

1010
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:23,360
sec um no we yeah no he's right because

1011
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,159
it's 650 I'm just do we even run 650 TI I don't think we do so there you go we

1012
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,880
were totally wrong in that whole discussion about that any giveaways

1013
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:37,199
today probably no giveaways today yeah we run 650 660 660 Ti and 670 is the

1014
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,639
Aries 2 all sold probably ATI can only

1015
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:42,280
use physx by running calculations off the CPU how much of an impact on FPS is

1016
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:48,120
this well a lot of games it's like kneecapped by the way that FSX is

1017
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:50,360
implemented so yeah you never explained

1018
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:53,520
Cherry MX green switches in your mechanical keyboard Techquickie video

1019
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:57,480
can you explain its advantages and disadvantages it's basically heavier

1020
01:12:55,719 --> 01:13:02,719
blue and the reason we didn't talk about it was because find a keyboard that

1021
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:06,679
actually has okay I know there are some but they're very well yeah but that's

1022
01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:09,000
not even out yet we're not they're not even supposed to be talking to us about

1023
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:13,920
that you're going to get them in trouble sh I they previewed at CIS they

1024
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:18,159
previewed it at CES but there are very few keyboards out there with Cherry MX

1025
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:21,600
green and it may gain some popularity moving forward but they are more

1026
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:26,639
expensive and they are much less rare than the usual blue red brown black key

1027
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:31,719
switches they have it on their website as new for 99 bucks okay well there you

1028
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:36,159
go okay apparent 99 Only is that a 10 keyless oh yeah that's an expensive 10

1029
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:39,639
key list then yeah that's still keyboard with green switches all right exciting

1030
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:44,280
he he just said they're heavier Blues they also have a more accurate actuation

1031
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:48,800
Point Blues have a slight problem that people and like okay this I use

1032
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:54,679
exclusively Blues on everything um but Blues have a slight problem where if you

1033
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:57,239
float right under the click you can um

1034
01:13:54,679 --> 01:13:59,679
hit the actuation Point repeatedly so there's double tapping issues that

1035
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:05,400
people will have if they're trying to click really really quickly where they'll accidentally go back down before

1036
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:11,880
they click and they'll actuate it too many times so the actuation point is not

1037
01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:14,159
exactly on the click greens is way more

1038
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:18,360
accurate in that aspect than Blues now in saying this Blues are pretty darn

1039
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:21,960
accurate like you're not going to have you're not going to have this problem

1040
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:26,960
that often but that is a notable difference is the greens do have a more

1041
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:32,719
accurate click an actuation Point level okay little bit more Twitter uh is

1042
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:36,360
it worth it to oh uh corser 200 R is a good good budget case uh we're using one

1043
01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:40,520
for our video capture PC that we're running on right now is it worth it to

1044
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:44,080
get a big bang 2 that supports 128 GB of RAM I don't know if I would run wait

1045
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:50,000
where are you going to get 128 gigs of RAM on an x79 you need 16 gig dims so

1046
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:55,840
good luck with that rumors of those are they coming soon coming out soon non ECC

1047
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:57,159
16 gig dims rumors okay I don't know

1048
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:01,440
I've just read You' be spending a fortune on it by the time you spent that

1049
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:06,040
much on 16 gig dims if this is for a video editing and rendering station get

1050
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:10,800
yourself a dual socket super micro board throw a couple of zons in there and then

1051
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:14,480
get lower density 8 gig dims and fill it up just fill it up and then you can get

1052
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:18,159
your 128 gigs of RAM and get more processing power and a proper

1053
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:22,719
workstation platform at the same time probably for a fairly uh not at the

1054
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:27,800
price 16 gig dims will probably be probably a fairly competitive price

1055
01:15:25,199 --> 01:15:30,960
cheaper yeah yeah to be honest lus wanted to get your opinion should I wait

1056
01:15:29,239 --> 01:15:35,920
for the 900d or get something now like a phantom 630 Phantom 630 is not very

1057
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:40,159
comparable to the 900d I mean 900d is a monster 630 is quite like it's a mid

1058
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,560
Tower almost it's like full steel and aluminum isn't it yeah it's like full

1059
01:15:41,719 --> 01:15:48,000
metal for the 900d whereas a very plastic design for the 630 I think you

1060
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:53,600
need to decide exactly what you want and then decide what to buy I'd probably go

1061
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:55,520
with a 7950 or a 60 TI I mean that's a

1062
01:15:53,600 --> 01:16:00,000
good M oh 347 maybe a 660 660 is a great value or a

1063
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:03,840
7870 or 7850 when is slick going to upload

1064
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:07,960
videos to his YouTube channel that is for that channel that you see when I

1065
01:16:05,719 --> 01:16:11,800
comment on YouTube videos is for replying to comments on YouTube videos I

1066
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,239
am not planning on releasing anything on that channel uh Slick's personal rig has

1067
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:18,719
been updated yep uh people asked you to talk about your personal rig and we never

1068
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:26,120
talked about it during the Windows 8 thing okay um I'm running I'm water

1069
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:31,159
cooling with a t- virus and a 12.3

1070
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:35,520
um PA 12.3 donated by someone very

1071
01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:39,639
gracious um I'm running a 2600k and

1072
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:41,760
moving to a GTX 670 water cooled this

1073
01:16:39,639 --> 01:16:45,120
one's very very short yeah it's really short very short mini card it's

1074
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:50,639
literally about this looks really small in the 800 it's a little bit ridiculous

1075
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:55,719
um but it actually kind of works for my water loop yeah cuz it'll be in the right

1076
01:16:53,480 --> 01:17:01,360
position to so you won't have to re replum and buy you tubing so it actually

1077
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:03,120
kind of works um I have a lot of I don't

1078
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:06,840
want to do a personal rig update video because I have a lot of work on that rig

1079
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:10,800
that I need to do before I want to release a personal update video uh the

1080
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:16,520
mineral oil rig had enough novelty in it that it was just kind of awesome um but

1081
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:19,520
like currently I love the power that's there's like junk growing in his Loop

1082
01:17:17,639 --> 01:17:24,480
and he doesn't want to show you guys actually that goes away and comes back

1083
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:28,000
because of the silver fittings right now it's not there is it not there right now

1084
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,840
no it's not oh that's weird but it comes back it's the silver fittings it cleans

1085
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:35,880
it and then gets dirty it's because I don't think I have enough if I had

1086
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:41,840
silver fittings on my D5 okay I think it would be

1087
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:46,080
enough like eight silver fittings in it yeah have six yeah okay um if and adding

1088
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,280
in that graphics card might actually solve it okay if I add two more silver

1089
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:54,480
fittings there that might actually fix my problem okay or I can just add a kill

1090
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:58,080
coil or something but anyways uh I still need to like lik seve my power supply um

1091
01:17:56,639 --> 01:18:02,280
yeah your power supply looks ghetto it's a high current ugly it's awesome power

1092
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:07,960
supply yeah High current Pro 1200 wat or something ridic it's beast and like

1093
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:11,120
unnecessary but whatever um but totally

1094
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:15,040
beast and ugly super ugly so I need to

1095
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:17,159
sleeve that um I'm in an 800d but like

1096
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:21,400
the front looks horrible it's a little bit broken there's some scratches like I

1097
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:27,199
I need to so beat up like it's really beat up um one of my roommates that I

1098
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:30,320
had who was often Under the Influence

1099
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:33,440
utilized the cardboard panels from the

1100
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:37,080
box for my 800d to build

1101
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:39,320
something I was I came home and I'm just

1102
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:42,679
like what and this is like weeks afterwards cuz I just had the box for it

1103
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:49,440
in the back room and never really thought about it right and I'm like K well I can't transport my 800d in a box

1104
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:54,360
anymore it's just so heavy which is insanely really hard to move around and

1105
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:58,960
like have it not like if it SL like once it gain momentum if it starts moving in

1106
01:18:56,199 --> 01:19:03,080
the back of a car it's going to smack and then that creates scratches so like

1107
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:08,280
it's it's an 800d but it's like probably one of the least attractive 800 DS in

1108
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:10,320
existence not really um but it's it's

1109
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,800
not doing so it's down there it's definitely down there so that needs to

1110
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:17,800
be replaced I need to leave my cables like there's work that needs to be done before I want to release but you're

1111
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:20,920
saving for a car I'm saving up for a car he's saving for a car so he can drive me

1112
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:26,679
around for a change instead of the other way around yeah so like it's going to be

1113
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:33,159
a while but yeah that's that's my rig can we put like um like benchmarker SL

1114
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:36,480
programmer SL shofur on your business cards when we have them printed oh my

1115
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:40,840
God we got to do that that would be so amazing that would be perfect we have to

1116
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:45,639
have chauffeur on we should have leaky chauffeur you'll have to Leaky chauffeur

1117
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:49,760
yeah his car now actually the roof leaks it's a Pontiac which should be all you

1118
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:54,199
it's a convertible in BC it got cold and it cracked it's an old car PTI old

1119
01:19:52,520 --> 01:20:00,199
probably leaked at the beginning no no no it's an old car why do you defend the

1120
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:02,320
Pontiac cuz I like that car what is good

1121
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:07,120
everything about it is terrible it doesn't even have cup holders that's

1122
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:11,800
stupid it's convertible you don't need cup what do you mean it's a convertible

1123
01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:16,800
you don't need cup holders nothing slides with you I was

1124
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:20,920
hoping you wouldn't notice that that's that's like I can't even compare that to

1125
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:25,280
anything that's like saying it's a it's a it's a it's it's a Rancher it doesn't

1126
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:32,080
need it was my first car it's gotten me around and it's awesome in the summer

1127
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:36,400
it's amazingly awesome in the summer you know the cruise around with the top down

1128
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,239
in the summer when it's hot is just kind

1129
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:44,800
of awesome okay Pontiac whatever your car

1130
01:20:40,679 --> 01:20:44,800
be Leaf runs oh I need to change

1131
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:54,040
gears okay we're still moving well maybe if I wasn't driving your huge ass around

1132
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:59,400
everywhere my car would still run it was broken weigh about double what I do what

1133
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:03,000
I thought we figured out actually no it's not

1134
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:08,239
bad whatever you look like you weigh um twice as hard to look at there

1135
01:21:06,679 --> 01:21:13,679
Bam Bam um what was I going to say I don't

1136
01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:19,120
care I can't even remember whatever something about your stupid car I like

1137
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:21,400
my car um something about your personal

1138
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,600
rig oh yeah you're saving up for a car so you're not going to do all the

1139
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:26,960
upgrades right away that's right away yeah but I am planning like eventually

1140
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:32,280
all this will happen and then I will eventually release a rig update but like

1141
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:38,199
I wouldn't I wouldn't hold up for it uh new slore fans for my PC or save

1142
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:41,360
up for a GTX 680 lightning I don't know if your computer's really loud I've done

1143
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:46,880
cooling upgrades as opposed to performance upgrades but it really depends what video card you're running

1144
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:50,800
now although 680 lightning isn't necessarily the best choice unless you

1145
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:56,360
want to run 3D Vision or NVIDIA um or rather um 3D Vision or fiz X orud go

1146
01:21:54,880 --> 01:22:00,000
what games you play and then check out some of our videos yeah 7970 may end up

1147
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:05,320
being a better choice for you like something like a um sh what's that ASUS

1148
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:09,840
one The Matrix one Matrix 7970 is awesome card we did an NCI Tech tips

1149
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:13,760
quite a while ago showing that even without the never settle driver it was

1150
01:22:11,719 --> 01:22:17,040
already the fastest single card went overclock to the Max and we ran into

1151
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:21,920
gains to 680 lightning and the never settle driver is like kind of a big deal

1152
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:25,239
yeah kind of a huge deal Sean contributes that Windows 8 has been

1153
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:28,960
super Shady on his Grand mother's new computer apparently to run some

1154
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:32,320
Microsoft games in Windows 8 you need a new app and steam's not providing it so

1155
01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:37,840
that might be something for you to look into I uh we're probably not going to do

1156
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:42,280
a video on OC Basics because we do specific videos on NC Tech tips for

1157
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:46,760
every new platform anyway so just go check out our overclocking guides over

1158
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:52,199
there and you should pick up pretty much most of what you need to know my mouse

1159
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:54,280
isn't working oh there it goes yay it's

1160
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:58,199
back and honestly the Windows 8 comments like the usability of different things

1161
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:03,080
is like I was able to deal with that it's the monitor randomly inverting and

1162
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:06,679
going black right that I'm not able to deal with because like I've died so many

1163
01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:11,440
times in games just cuz I'm like oh I have a black screen and I can't do anything for six or seven seconds and in

1164
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:16,000
a lot of games when you can't do anything for six or seven seconds you're

1165
01:23:13,719 --> 01:23:20,480
kind of scream um okay a little bit more Twitter Q&A so Robert asks if his fx8350

1166
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:25,440
showing four physical cores and eight logical cores and task manager is normal

1167
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:30,239
and it I don't know is that normal because pile driver cor P pile driver

1168
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:34,679
modules have are sort of like a core and a half yeah they're they're funky but

1169
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:38,040
it's not quite like not a core at all the way hyperthreading is so it's

1170
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:43,600
probably normal as long as it shows eight logical then it should be fine by

1171
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:45,639
the way slick defense fer kindly so

1172
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:52,000
basically my car is a Ferrari it's a Pontiac Ferrari built by Pontiac

1173
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:58,719
Ferrari slick can drive to wreck beach in his convertible Pontiac exactly that

1174
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:03,520
is how classy a convertible Pontiac

1175
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:05,560
is Bam and welcome lime fire the Lexus

1176
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:09,520
LFA has no cup holders and it's an amazing car don't judge a car by its cup

1177
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:14,600
holders okay okay how about this how about the fact that the Pontiac has no

1178
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:16,040
cup holders and isn't an amazing car how

1179
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:23,360
about the cup holders are just one thing for me to pick on in in like 20 years

1180
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:26,239
all it's needed is new spark plugs okay

1181
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:31,280
bam and pretty good runs great and a serious like non suckitude

1182
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:34,600
makeover uh is slick a family member how is he always with you he works me way

1183
01:24:32,679 --> 01:24:38,880
too much yeah that's pretty much it I'm not getting paid right now actually

1184
01:24:36,679 --> 01:24:43,010
you're not no no although you're salaried so technically you are getting

1185
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,920
paid right now just not very

1186
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:50,480
much like really

1187
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:54,800
small are you planning a project car I can't imagine you you're not that

1188
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:57,800
mechanically inclined are you I do okay

1189
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,360
I do I right my dad is okay and then I

1190
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:03,280
kind of get some from there my dad's kind of a wizard when it comes to

1191
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:07,719
anything so um Chris I don't think we need more heat sink manufacturers I

1192
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:11,960
think Scythe exiting the North American Market was sort of all we needed to know

1193
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:16,320
they had for that yeah good unique products and couldn't make it over here

1194
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:21,639
because we have enough heat SN manufacturers be quiet! recently moved

1195
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:27,199
over even yeah they did recently is um I have a blah blah blah blah yep

1196
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:30,199
definitely go for it Richard do you think Samsung's features are actually

1197
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:33,600
useful or just bloat Weare ruining Android what monitor are you going to

1198
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:38,159
use now that your old one broke my mother always told me if you

1199
01:25:35,719 --> 01:25:41,960
don't have anything nice to say do say anything at all skip over it and address

1200
01:25:39,719 --> 01:25:48,760
the next question um I am I don't know he's thinking about

1201
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:53,679
a leonitis yeah I'm looking into the leonitis I'm thinking about getting

1202
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:57,159
repaired I would love to drop like five

1203
01:25:53,679 --> 01:26:00,040
grand on Sharp's 32 in 4k monitor but I

1204
01:25:57,159 --> 01:26:07,360
think my wife would kill me like absolutely kill me so

1205
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:09,119
um yeah I don't know yet if I can repair

1206
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:13,320
the 305t for a reasonable price then I'll do that in all likelihood just

1207
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:16,000
tuned in from England yay hi England uh my main question with the tea balancers

1208
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:20,719
can it actually switch the fans off absolutely the fan curves are fully

1209
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,520
configurable and fully actually work although I'd recommend using voltage

1210
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:28,600
control and I probably wouldn't recommend using WM fans have you thought

1211
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:31,920
of combining forces with 10 Syndicate or do you plan to continue to be

1212
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:35,960
competitors 10 Syndicate well Logan's on the east coast and we're on the west

1213
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:40,560
coast so unless yeah unless one of us was planning to move I don't think we'd

1214
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:44,840
be like merging our companies because he's running his own business now too

1215
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:48,520
much the same way that I am um however I really don't see us as competitors

1216
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:52,360
Logan's awesome we like Logan yeah we like Logan like a lot I mean we've

1217
01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:55,199
emailed him we've like Twitter chatted with him I've never met him in person

1218
01:26:53,600 --> 01:27:01,440
unfortunately that I'm hoping to at some point but uh yeah we guys hey go

1219
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:06,520
subscribe raise the world with a zero not to no um on YouTube Tech Syndicate

1220
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:10,880
go subscribe because Logan's a good guy and his format is so different from ours

1221
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:15,320
it's good I mean I like it we both do benchmarks but his news show is much

1222
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:23,800
more structured it's more of a recorded show whereas our news show is like live

1223
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:25,679
Q&A um subscribing to both channels you

1224
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:28,719
have that much of a Content style overlap and you would probably if and

1225
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:33,960
you'll get a couple different perspectives yeah it's cool get M slicks

1226
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:37,159
Logan uh subscribe to Paul Hardware as well as well as uh awesome sauce news

1227
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:44,199
that's Kyle from Newegg yeah all good all good

1228
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:46,400
guys uh okay let's see 520 watt 80 plus

1229
01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:51,080
Platinum is that the uh the passive one if so good work Melvin because the pass

1230
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:56,119
is boss you know what I figured out I think that one is built on the

1231
01:27:53,560 --> 01:28:00,520
same plat form as the XFX th000 watt Platinum that I'm using yeah yeah you

1232
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:05,600
told me about that and the fans on my radiator are air penetrators so they're

1233
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:09,440
directed air flow so if I at least have that one running a little bit I will can

1234
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:14,159
have no fan at all in my power supply because 520 watts is lots for what I'm

1235
01:28:11,159 --> 01:28:17,639
doing in fact is it 520 or

1236
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:21,239
550 5 520 yeah I can see it it's over

1237
01:28:17,639 --> 01:28:24,880
there uh how about how is pump rattle in

1238
01:28:21,239 --> 01:28:27,840
the h100 uh neither of our h100s is bad

1239
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:32,719
yeah I I owned an IBM model M for a little while and then someone took it

1240
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:37,880
back from me after I cleaned it up how many Canadian viewers do you have I I

1241
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,880
don't know

1242
01:28:39,119 --> 01:28:46,159
400 42 five six first time I watched the

1243
01:28:44,199 --> 01:28:51,239
stream in real time all right can't pronounce your name but that's cool whoa

1244
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:53,840
is an SLI config of 660 non TI okay you

1245
01:28:51,239 --> 01:28:58,040
know what probably not a bad idea 660 is not that far behind the TI and as long

1246
01:28:56,199 --> 01:29:01,440
as you don't need the extra vram of getting a higher end card with more

1247
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:06,280
video memory you should be able to get a pretty significant performance boost to

1248
01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:12,560
the tune of of better than you would do by selling a 660 and getting a 670 or

1249
01:29:08,719 --> 01:29:15,679
something like that um dark genin it's

1250
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:17,760
not N Night classic start I just

1251
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:23,920
download classic start I think it's Classic Shell for Windows 8 from the N

1252
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:25,960
Night website just want to clarify that

1253
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:30,840
uh I'm only 13 I'm not posting strange pictures yeah I was a perfect angel on

1254
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:36,360
the internet when I was 13 too either way we don't want to risk it

1255
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:40,920
because we've clicked on stuff that kind of killed people's ears before Tim

1256
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:43,719
already knows the answer

1257
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:47,920
n12 Logan likes one of your CES he likes one of our CES we did like 50 what a

1258
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:51,239
jerk good enough don't subscribe to Logan I take back everything I said

1259
01:29:49,639 --> 01:29:54,840
before about subscribing to Logan I don't even care I still like Logan

1260
01:29:52,800 --> 01:30:00,840
whatever man okay let's see if we've got oh EVGA released their utility for

1261
01:29:57,239 --> 01:30:03,400
changing the lighting yes 690 and Titan

1262
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:07,000
so you can uh lower the brightness increase the brightness you can set it

1263
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:11,199
to breathing breathing mode which is like I love breathing mode for LEDs it's

1264
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:15,480
just awesome although what I think I would probably do if I was balling

1265
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:21,239
enough to have a Titan is I would set it up depending on GPU load it can go

1266
01:30:18,440 --> 01:30:24,639
brighter or dimmer so cool so cool that's the kind of stuff that really

1267
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:30,000
makes me geek out that's awesome I love stuff like that that's why I like

1268
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:33,600
um uh tactical tracers crucial tactical tracers RAM I tried to install the

1269
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:37,159
application on my computer it just says unsupported motherboard I haven't done a

1270
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:41,360
BIOS update though it's still running BIOS V1 and it's running that weird Zeon

1271
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:46,080
chipset it's running a workstation chipset so I might try taking the

1272
01:30:43,239 --> 01:30:49,440
modules putting them in an x79 or like a z68 board or something and then moving

1273
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:53,440
them and moving them back over cuz I think it saved on the modules themselves

1274
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:58,000
I think so but I think so I don't don't quote either on that yeah we don't we

1275
01:30:55,320 --> 01:31:02,159
don't actually know so there what was I going to say yeah and

1276
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:07,880
in combination that would actually be pretty cool oh that'd be so

1277
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:11,520
cool probably want to do like an LED color swap on the Titan though like if

1278
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:17,000
there you could probably do it cuz you could take the green out of the cooler and probably put in blue I bet it's not

1279
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:24,679
even a colored LED looking at that color that's not a green LED color that would

1280
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:27,920
be that would look so good like blue GTX

1281
01:31:24,679 --> 01:31:29,960
wo that would be cool uh speaking of

1282
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:33,960
like mods and Rigs and stuff like that I'm actually just you should probably

1283
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:37,800
not have your sending myself oh yeah guys please don't read my

1284
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:41,159
emails uh I don't think there's anything here that's that bad but you've got

1285
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:45,000
stuff from like from people so their names are there and stuff yeah that they

1286
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:49,080
might care about that that email from that guy is like the most bizarre thing

1287
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:53,480
that uh that I've seen in a while I don't even see it it's uh they want us

1288
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:58,239
to promote some contest or something to win like a TV or something we talk about

1289
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:01,679
the the I have no idea what you're talking about I don't know if I can talk

1290
01:31:59,679 --> 01:32:05,520
about here I'll type it one sec are you drunk no I just don't know how to

1291
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:12,040
describe this sure yeah go for it um I don't even

1292
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:13,480
know who it is it's um your it's uh oh

1293
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:18,600
crap you know what let's just save it then cuz I can't remember who makes now they're all going to be like what H

1294
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:23,440
we'll talk we'll talk about it later okay okay so let's do our featured build

1295
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:29,719
blog of the week from the lonus tech tips Forum so our featured build log is

1296
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:34,840
from joric wait a minute didn't we already feature this did

1297
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:39,159
we uh oh what you talking about Willis did

1298
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:42,040
we you have to log in all right I have

1299
01:32:39,159 --> 01:32:46,840
to log in to see images uh I can't change that I'm sorry I think we already

1300
01:32:44,679 --> 01:32:51,320
featured this one okay well jorck you're on again because it's too late for me to

1301
01:32:50,199 --> 01:32:58,320
fix it now um uh uh uh I had other

1302
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:03,719
competitors okay live stream was very rush today

1303
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:09,000
okay I don't remember my password for the Forum right now so we're not at our

1304
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,000
best right now here

1305
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:18,920
guys there we go I'm logged in was this the first one I think yeah I we

1306
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:22,360
definitely featured this crap none of those were the completed pictures

1307
01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:27,119
anyways way to go did you show the wrong pictures when we actually featured it

1308
01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:30,920
oh I might not have showed I might not have showed all the pictures okay fine

1309
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,280
just we're just going to feature yoro again go to the very last and we're

1310
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:39,760
going to go to the very end of his build blog why you go

1311
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:43,000
okay all right it's

1312
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:46,600
not there it goes okay so we're going to

1313
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:48,280
look at his build properly this time so

1314
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:52,360
slick why don't you cover everything that's good about it here you can use

1315
01:33:49,639 --> 01:33:56,679
this to uh yeah this was apparently feature before sorry guys

1316
01:33:54,320 --> 01:34:01,400
guys this was very last minute we didn't have internet in the office today that

1317
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:03,080
was so fail like so fail I had to try

1318
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:07,639
and find a build log so I was trying to find build logs without

1319
01:34:05,239 --> 01:34:10,800
pictures which is like kind of hard to do you just have to go based on memory

1320
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:14,320
of build logs you've seen before that are good so I was I was well I was

1321
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:18,400
reading the comments and trying to figure out what was going on with this

1322
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:23,080
one and I was like this sounds awesome so went with this and that apparently

1323
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:26,800
didn't work out too great um tell us about the rig though that looks awesome

1324
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:31,600
it looks amazing it's based on like crop circles that's why it's called

1325
01:34:28,679 --> 01:34:34,560
phenomenon so kind of cool cool naming to go along with your style a lot of

1326
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:41,080
planning that went into this if you look into earlier posts like he gets into

1327
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:42,920
actually um what uh like I think it's

1328
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:46,480
called drafting I don't know if that's the official name for what he did

1329
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:49,840
specifically but he drafted out like what he was going to do for this crop

1330
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:56,400
circle and like the rest of the design of the case um a lot of really really

1331
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:58,040
cool maet window this it's very clean

1332
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:01,920
like you can even see that picture right there that is incredibly clean that's

1333
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:10,520
outstanding this I never saw so there you go um he uses M&D PC sleeving MD MD

1334
01:35:07,119 --> 01:35:13,719
PC U oh I'm thinking million dollar PC

1335
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:15,639
um like just insanely clean everything

1336
01:35:13,719 --> 01:35:19,639
about it is clean the I love the white fittings yeah I was just going to say

1337
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:22,920
the white fittings are awesome um the the sleeving situation he has going on

1338
01:35:21,639 --> 01:35:27,920
is really interesting because a lot of people go with nice patterns and stuff

1339
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:29,560
like one one or two two or like half and

1340
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:33,960
half but he kind seen a lot of people do like one accent one or one accent one

1341
01:35:32,639 --> 01:35:37,360
but he kind of flipped it around a little bit and that's scary because you

1342
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:42,840
can flip it around a little bit and it might not look very good and then you just sleeved everything doesn't look

1343
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:45,880
very good but this looks really good we have a visitor

1344
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:51,840
hi oh no okay well live stream's over

1345
01:35:49,719 --> 01:35:57,000
guys my cats are apparently outside so I need to go chase them they are uh

1346
01:35:54,400 --> 01:36:00,600
they're indoor cats because they're expensive and I don't want them to get

1347
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:05,000
stolen and they're stupid and I don't want them to get dead so um thank you

1348
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:10,360
guys for joining the live stream tonight I hope you enjoyed it we'll have the

1349
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:12,199
archive up hopefully pretty soon and uh

1350
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:16,400
good night everybody good night
