welcome to the live stream guys we've got a ton of cool topics tonight
including uh I don't know what are our topics tonight I have a thing with
topics but we've we've got some blackberry juice
we've got um we've got one of the most incendiary things I think I've ever
heard which is apparently some game developers are running around saying the
PlayStation 4 will outperform PCS for years to come which app he doesn't
understand anything about performance or hardware at all about anything although
although uh it's funny because this was going to be one of our featured news
items from the Linus Tech tips forum and I have to like the guy who who posted
this one I give him props for posting in our news section because that's great
and that is appreciated but he was a little bit sensationalist about his
headline so I will uh we we'll clarify that once we once we move into that so
why don't we start with something a little bit uh actually we've got a lot
of crazy stuff to talk about we're going to talk about your Windows 8 downgrade
uh we're going to talk about how I'm actually not going to be moving to
Windows 8 on my personal rig I hope that
uh Twitter managed to where the heck is the where's the uh the here it is I got
it I got it I got it it's always behind you just always assume that it's behind
you NOP I refuse to do that that is clearly Incorrect and a bad thing that I
will not be doing at all always behind you oh did I leave the twitch stream on
they came from behind yes oh yeah we'll be talking
Starcraft Heart of the Swarm because we have an actual gamer on the show this
week him they fit that in there by the way in the campaign there's a they came
from behind yeah I was so stoked oh I love that so stoked when I heard it they
also fit a Wilhelm scream into the trailer oh no way yeah a marine gets
stepped on or I can't I can't do the willhelm
scream hold on oh a no it's like
impossible to recreate it's awesome though if you don't know what will Helm
scream is YouTube it not now because it's in like every movie ever yeah
especially Star Wars anything to do with Lucas Arts every Star War every Luca
every Indiana Jones every Star Wars video video movie movie we make videos
George Lucas makes movies or at least he did in the 70s and
80s and you could argue he made they
don't count those are videos oh that's okay I'm not going to get into
original trilogy versus new Trilogy that would be an interesting live topic
though uh we're going to talk batteries we're going to talk about oh okay so
this is this okay here let's kick it off so the we've only got 20 oh okay the
viewers are going up a little bit I'm just a little bit confused because I I'm
never quite sure if the live stream starting now thing do you have to
actually specifically announce on Twitch that you're
streaming because I think there's like an announce button but I don't know how
exactly that works you know what I'm not going to worry about it too much have no
idea a few people said NOP or not really not really okay I got to get on this
stream chat so let's uh let's get started with the belon link linkx
acquisition is pretty much done so I got an email from my lyx contact today
saying that his email is changing from his name at cisco.com to his name at I
think I think it's going to be a linkis email now so Belin has come out and said
okay we're keeping the two different uh streams of products separate so product
development is still going to be separate um product uh branding is still
going to be separate okay so when Cisco did the linkis acquisition in fact if I
could find a Cisco I see I called it a Cisco router if I could find a linkis
router lying around here somewhere I'd be able to show you they actually say Cisco right on the top yeah in
fact that's what happened when lynis
asked us to change cuz we originally oh
yeah had our CES content branded Cisco because we couldn't find the linkis
brand in use anywhere they probably already knew that
it was coming soon so they were like oh yeah we saw your first video and we'd
actually uh we'd really like you to change that to a linkis
brand and stuff call taking that out someone
complaining about it uh might have been audible no I heard it anyway so uh so
yeah that's probably what happened there so anyway they're going to keep them separate and it's going to be pretty
much business as usual for lynus as a
separate good though I think so too because there's nothing wrong with the
product no like we actually we did some
really interesting testing with the EA was it the 42 or the 45 45 45 versus the
N900 uh versus the N900 from WD and we
found that without any optimization or tweaking of the qos at all it was just
such a beast for very heavy Network like we did we did crazier stuff that we do
on that Network like ever that was
probably the hardest load we ever put on it and multiple Netflix streams a Skype
call a game stream um and torrenting and
torrenting yeah and we had like six or seven computers going so it was like
crazy and it was like a lot of Torrance because we were pushing back and forth from school yeah so even things like the
website are going to stay the same so you're not going to actually not I mean
I don't think someone like Belin acquiring a very strong networking brand
like linkis really wants to mess with it too much whereas with Cisco where they
have that more premium branding I can understand why they'd want some trickle
down effect and it's like oh so it should be worth more of a premium because we're we're Cisco and honestly
like to most consumers they will probably have no
idea that the sale and acquisition even occurred and that's probably a good
thing yeah if they just nope nobody
knows and that's exactly what we want yeah absolutely Ely I think not many
people are watching yet so uh hopefully this has blasted on Twitter or Y there
it is live stream starting now I see it so hopefully people uh tune in pretty
quickly here because otherwise it's just us and our 400 most loyal viewers
whatever man thank you guys for apparently planning your lives around
being here to watch us live on our Friday night when we could otherwise be
dating attractive women or or eating bacon or eating yeah slick I actually
haven't even had one LT sandwich and
it's not even going to be hot by the time I eat it it's already not yeah oh
even mine was like room so so disappoint
all right so I don't remember what hot Keys we use for um for switching scenes
anymore is it like Shi fys is it f
Keys oh yeah there we go yay Twitter okay so it's 2 a.m. in Argentina thank
you for tuning in can you do live stream at a sensible time for us British
European types we will change it eventually yeah the plan is to change it
the plan is to change it probably time and probably day not probably day I
don't want to do it on Friday nights I I don't think most people want to do it on Friday nights because most people like
even if you're not going out you're probably wanting to game with your buds
so like I want to game with my buds I'm
pretty sure they want to game with their buds yeah I'm pretty sure they want to game with their buds too someone's
asking uh where happened to the Acer laptop oh it's still here slicks on my
old MSI um like sort of gaming ready
model that I try not to use cuz man it's heavy but it's kind of awesome because
it's like quad core and stuff but uh there we go let's go ahead and go back
to our can you please do a video on the
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far I think they won all of them and then like tied one or something yeah I
think uh Battlefield 3 was more more of a tie and then Crisis 3 Ste red but
still the top two spots in Battlefield 3 if you look at the overall chart which
is poked in at the End by a little bit cuz there isn't really a good vocal
segue for me to Overlay the overall chart but it is there so if you guys are
watching the Battlefield 3 video go somewhere near the end and it just kind
of goes hello and then leaves after a little while but check it out that's
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can't even go that wrong I've got a quickfire TK upstairs that I use like
whenever whenever your ducky was dead whenever my ducky was dead yeah or when
I was swapping the key caps out of my ducky or like I bring it home if I go to
my parents host for weekend easier to travel with like it's yeah it's nice and
like it's pretty ruged too so cooler Master's on board now which we're really
excited about and in addition to that we also just signed with twitch.tv as a
YouTube Network so we won't have to rely on Google's ad sales anymore so twitch
is actually going to be responsible for filling our videos the like the regular
YouTube pre-rolls with hopefully more relevant ads which I think is important
um as well as hopefully you know not making us rely strictly on Google which
I mean even now we rely on Google in huge ways just for the infrastructure uh
delivering the videos to you guys they make all kinds of mistakes that honestly
cost us a lot of money and a lot of headache um not not delivering our
videos to our subscribers yeah subscription box I have um my personal
YouTube account gets like less than a quarter of the lion Tech tips uploads
I'm like what I should be getting all of
these very frustrating I mean there's that there's the fact that uh YouTube
screws up on things like we had a set to
private and it went public so we we accidentally broke embargo on the GTX
Titan launch which was not cool and they've had I mean that's been broken
for months at a time in the past to the point where it's just kind
of ridiculous so uh so yeah we still rely on them in a big way but we're not
going to rely on them for our livelihoods which is sort of exciting
well not entirely for our livelihoods we'll still rely on them yeah if anyone
from Google's watching we'd still love you please don't shut off our Channel
Don't Close Our Channel yes we like our Channel um okay so let's talk Galaxy S4
actually you know what no let's go to let's go to Twitter for for a little bit of Q&A here let's see what you guys have
to say about the show so far I'm just going to go ahead sorry if people notice
that I'm looking down a lot I'm trying to get on Twitch but I can't log into my
account so I'm oh I'm on Twitch over here yeah but I want to be able to
monitor it here yeah okay we should just be monitoring it we should be monitoring
the chat at all s because you guys notice when anything's wrong right away
which is good uh Johnny blae says you should try the new BlackBerry Zed 10
when you're done with the HTC1 I would love to if anyone from Blackberry is
watching we'd love to hear from you we'd love to have an opportunity to try it
out I mean it's funny because we've said
that enough times like kind of joking but then there was that guy from Belle
who watched and we called them we said that their customer support with butt
heads so he called us and fixed it like fixed everything everything's perfect
now and then um we called though rul sud
y formerly a voodoo who apparently left a comment on our video um because we
said that we weren't sure if any of the solid gold cases is sold yes and he was
like yes we sold at least one $50,000 for that gold case which is just
unbelievable um and you know what's what uh I checked it is him I had Josh follow
up with him and find out if it was actually him and it actually was Raul if
you're wondering where that comment came from on YouTube you can just set whatever name you want
we hadama com I'm like I'm
pretty prry has uh some other videos to
watch that are not related to technology and whatnot pretty sure if he wanted a
really good computer he would just kind of have a really good computer do you think the 7970 is better for Battlefield
3 Call of Duty and Tomb Raider you know what we have to do Tomb Raider yeah I
want to wait I want to wait till driver optim optimization I don't want to do
too many beta drivers anymore because all the weird stuff that in a couple
weeks so what we're going to do is we're going to wait till AMD and NVIDIA both
drop pretty good driver optimization revisions okay then I'll run all the
test test benches for that bench benchmarks not test benches yeah um run
all run it on all the test benches every test bench we have U I'll run all the
benchmarks for that and then we'll release a video on that right away and then you'll have your BF3 and Tomb
Raider did he mention another game uh Battlefield 3 Cod and Tomb Raider so I
mean Cod runs on like an atar I wouldn't worry about it man you're probably fine
yeah it's probably okay just don't stress don't stress Jason it's cool all
right speaking of which someone asked for a shout out to a Jason but a different Jason slick could you tell us
about your personal rig maybe we'll cover that when we talk about your Windows 8 downgrade right someone asks
is Razer really that bad because from what I hear in the Internet it's the
worst branding in the world no I don't think that's true at all I mean like any
company not every product is perfect but I mean the um orb weaver is by far the
best game pad that we've ever encountered uh what was the name of that
uh that controller the Sabertooth the one we saw
at CES it's not tournament ready or is it tournament ready and the other one's
not tournament ready oh that I don't remember it's either the previous razor
the or Xbox controll I think it's no orca's a headset I know the one you Anza
onza yeah um it's I can't remember if it was the Anza or the new saber tooth well
the new one has those button on the bottom but they're removable are they
not oh no and they're not macro ready right so the new one is tourament ready
one right cuz you can't rebind all the buttons all over the place yeah so I
mean and the build quality of it was outstanding especially compared to the
to the older one which wasn't as good I mean that black widow ultimate is a very
solid mechanical keyboard I mean guys I
guess oh yeah and the blade the blade is
probably right up there with guys like apple in terms of the build quality of
that notebook All I'm gonna say I've owned two razor leosa or
leus neither of them work okay so I
think it's a mi mixed bag when you have people that have a bad experience then
they're much more likely to talk about that than a good experience that's also
very true and talking from my NC
experience where I know what the sales numbers look like I can tell you right
now if you see five complaints about Razer compared to some other gaming
brand it might have something to do with the fact that they're selling five times
more than them or more right so that's
definitely a very valid and very large point I mean it was like that with ocz
and ssds for the longest time where people like all the complaints I see
about ssds are ocz well yeah all the ssds that are selling are ocz so what do
you want me to say like yeah whatever
man uh okay so let's go back I'm working on a prodigy build what does your wife
think about you using the living room as a workshop for your personal rake I actually am not anymore my personal rig
is almost done I'm working on a prodigy
build I thought you finished well I still have to my uh the power adapter I
made myself I made a left angle power adapter for my optical drive but I used
wires that were too thin and they didn't bite into the thing enough so I have to
replace that I have to fix the extension wire I was using for my four fans on the
bottom cuz it like broke or something decrep it somehow I have to remount the
top LED strip because the included adhesive with the phobias is not holding
it in place so I'm going to use my double-sided velcro yeah and then I have
to figure out how to bleed that Bloody T Virus so pretty close was it not it's
getting there but I'm thinking if I stick like something in there and just kind of swirl it around that might help
you can do that then you got to take those caps off and that's not always the easiest no no it's easy with the fill
Port yeah you can just stick it through the fill Port I think it should be would
you get tied up in the uh maybe in the
Helix I don't know I haven't tried yet either way if you want to do shake this
is like totally has nothing to do with the stream I don't want to shake the computer but if you want to do Shake we
can lift it up and I can stabilize it you can shake oh I shudder to think
because there's enough things that just are broken enough about it um we're not
going to talk about bit torrent on the show we like to keep things clean but
feel free to talk about bit torrant somewhere else uh thoughts on El joining
the new egg crew I think it's I think it's a huge benefit for the new egg TV
guys I mean he brings with him an enormous audience yeah he's he's got his
crew basically like he's got all the guys that are going to follow him which is he's been around forever I mean you
look at how quickly Tech of Tomorrow grew when he departed from motherboards
org and channel pro it's going to be interesting departing from
motherboards.org channelpro going to check of tomorrow which he was already
kind of he was already kind of running on his own but like boosting it up and
then ditch boost up he may I I don't
know what his plan is I haven't talked to him he may maintain it because I know
Kyle and Paul at least have their own channels do awesome sauce news and
Paul's Hardware if you guys want to check them out Paul did a really good video review of the leonitis 30in IPS uh
monitor that's available for like 600 700 bucks on eBay yeah um so guys check
out his video of that if you're looking at a large format display which it
happens I am because mine's broken
now if you want the story on that because he probably doesn't want to
reiterate it personal build personal rig update 15 has the it's pretty much the
most depressing video I think either of us have ever filmed
yeah yeah oh spring break is it spring
break yes it's been so long since I've been in school I don't even think about
it anymore maybe that's why no one's watching Linus please enable 240p
viewing option I have no idea how to enable or
disable different viewing options I think that's handled by twitch we stream
at 1080p but I believe you can downscale it to whatever you want yeah I have no
idea how to do that no
idea um all right so let's move into our
next discussion topic should we just let's just let's just hit the Galaxy S4
now shall we boom so we cheated a little bit in our teaser video for the live
stream where we said we had a Galaxy S4
but actually we don't this is just a Galaxy S3 which should give you guys
some idea of how different we think the S4 is from the S3 if you look at the
front of the S4 the camera and these two
little LEDs go slightly more vertical
and this little indicator LED is now visible just like these ones no goes
slight more hold on slow down slow down you're blowing my mind man it's visible
you can see it's got the black ring just like the other ones it goes slightly
more vertical and it comes all the way over here to go right beside the speaker
no way hold on beside the speaker fan freaking tastic Game Changer I don't
even know who could have possibly thought about that the button is like
slightly more squared off hold on there's a
button one button one button you can't
put more than one button okay although with that said the HTC1 does not have a
button I don't know if you noticed that I did there is no middle button there's
an HTC I'm not sure what to think because
you I you double tap home to get to your recent apps which is fine which is fine
I'm okay with a double tap it's fast and the haptic feedback on this thing is
outstanding okay holy crap let's stay focused on S4 focused on S4 okay okay
physical changes carry on take it off and show what the inside different is
okay so here I'll hold this one so the back from here all the way up to there
is pretty much the same okay and then
the flashlight Goes Down Under the camera
and this disappears okay and that is innovation
and it's do you have the specs up on your computer I can get it up in a
moment get the full specs up cuz I'm going to start I'm going to talk about
sort of the the philosophy behind what might have driven Samsung to go with a a
very similar to Galaxy S3 design so no
matter how much I rag on it it does kind of make sense yeah it kind of makes sense okay cuz when you looked at Galaxy
1 honestly it wasn't a great phone no my
wife has one it has not really served
her well no not I'm not going to rag on them
or anything but they knew it wasn't great Galaxy S2 came out pretty quick
and revamped everything it went Amed it
went uh way faster way faster it had a
way better screen it was just better in every possible way and they completely
reinvented it with the Galaxy S2 then Galaxy S3 came along and went okay we're
going to turn every take everything that was good about the S2 and keep it we're
going to go with a shape that's much nicer to hold did the screen get bigger
I don't remember I think so I think it did I can't I can't remember Galaxy S2
again though pretty sure it did didn't last that long and was replaced by a
phone that was significantly better in every possible way and replaced it now
Galaxy S3 hung around with us for a long time I mean this launched we did a video
back around uh around launch so that's going to give me some idea of when it
was but ncixcom
Galaxy someone's probably already uh oh
Galaxy video card eight months ago so so this launched almost a year ago like 9
10 months ago and here we are finally
Samsung's replacing it with the S4 which
is similar but remember this time they're
not replacing a phone that was fundamentally flawed in any way they're
replacing a phone that was that did
really well the number one selling smartphone yeah if you're
Samsung do you reinvent the wheel when the wheels spinning really
good one thing thing I brought up when we were origin talking this up yeah go
ahead um um sorry that was funny uh we were in
the car talking about it and I was like okay well if it's really similar form
factor and just like awesome sauce specs compared to before why don't they take
the Apple approach and just call it like
not an S because it's already s because of Samsung but like the Samsung GS X
right GS 3x or something like add another thing to the end because they're
not changing not really really changing the form factor of the phone not
changing stuff like that and then you I mean that's something apples gets away
with though because they've been doing it for so long yeah I mean you know what
an s means an s means an evolutionary
change um I mean they've done this with iPad as well where they don't even
Rebrand the damn thing anymore no they just go iPad IP with retina display so
you when you buy an iPad you're buying an IP ad unless it's an iPad 2 so there
was iPad iPad 2 and iPad yeah with Retina and I I mean maybe something like
that would have been appropriate here as a Galaxy S3 Uber Edition or like
whatever the brand like better branding than that but um but then branding
consolidation is a really really big deal and that brings this into play okay
let's talk about that later hold on I want to talk specs on this first so okay
okay so Samsung's either going to have um a what is it Snapdragon S600 is it
called S600 something something Snapdragon 600 something or other um so
that's going to be a 1.9 GHz quad core
which is pretty similar to the 1.7 GHz
uh uh Snapdragon 600 that's in the HTC1
a little bit faster although it has a beier battery 2600 milliamp hours
compared to 2300 or 2350 or something like that um but there's going to be
another version that's an octacore exus or whatever they call their thing uh
that's an octacore that has 4 A7 cores and 4 a15 cores now would go as far as
to say if their intention is to use
those four cores either for power saving or performance it's still kind of a quad
core can NVIDIA get away with calling Tegra 3 a five core cuz they kind of
tried it at first and then they backed off on it cuz they have that that low
power core and then the four performance on is that exactly how it's supposed to work switching for power saving my
understanding is that's how the octacore is supposed to work cuz come on you're not going to benefit from an octacore
like four equal cores and the Octor is clocked at 1.6 GHz so it's going to vary
depending on region what spec you get so the HTC1 by contrast you're going to get
the same spec regardless of region but there's six different versions
supporting different bands for different regions that makes sense but you get the
same CPU regardless um what else have they changed spec-wise so they've added
so it's a 5 in 1080P I keep holding this because for all intents ofp I'll hold
this far enough away that you can't tell uh it's a 5 in 1080P display Amed with
the room rumors were that the Amed uh production line wasn't ready yet and it
was going to be LCD but very exciting so you're going to get those deep deep rich
blacks power savings assuming you're not looking at really bright stuff all the
time that's really exciting um it's going to come with 4.2.2 Jelly Bean
ridiculous 12 megapixel camera 13 13 yeah 13 megapixel camera with two on the
front Cam and that leads us to another sort of comparison point between the
we're not even going to be able to talk about the one cuz we're blending it here
so HTC went for a bold departure from what
everyone very bold instead of a high megapixel rear camera they have a 4
megapixel rear camera hold on I'm G let that snc in for a moment there and you
know what's kind of stupid is I had all my notes for the
HTC um unboxing that we did earlier deleted them and I deleted them as we
went but you for undo I think I've got it they're calling it Ultra pixel Ultra
pixel camera sensor so this is is a 4 megapixel 3 in sensor with an f2.0 lens
and Optical image stabilization that they're saying because of the larger
pixels and the large sensors is actually able to capture more light and more
detail even though the resolution that will appear when you right click
properties resolution is actually lower
and you were dinking around with it a little bit in the car on the way back and it looks like and also based on
reviews that we're seeing of the phone that might be true it looks really good
more megapixels may not be the solution so anyway Samsung has a 13 megapixel
camera on this bad boy um it's available on a variety of
different internal storage configurations and it does have a micro
SD slot which the one does not that to me is so confusing the way HTC continues
to not Implement micro SD in their high-end phones I personally never
actually filled my iPhone 416 gig and you don't like but not everyone's like
me some people want more storage there's a spot like they could have put spot
right on the bottom there put a Micro SD slot there for crying out loud guys like
you can't take off the back okay you can't replace the battery okay okay make
an external plugin for it's a really small chip with that said the one only
comes in 32 gig and 64 gig configurations going to be big so I
would never manage to fill 30 I know that I actually will both of us won't I
stream video to myself over my data plan I have a pretty generous data plan so I
don't worry about it too much okay what else they got oh yeah so there you can
interact with the touch screen without quite touching it although I don't know how valuable that is uh it apparently
pauses video If You Look Away although their camera based eye tracking features
have never necessarily worked for everyone so I don't know about that uh s
Travel Trip Advisor oh they're adding some of the
cool features from the Galaxy camera which we shot an NC Tech tips of today
and is actually really cool yeah it's actually pretty awesome I just wish it
had a phone in it yeah okay we were talking about this the galaxy C camera
is running Android yes and Android Jelly Bean and we were thinking if you just
add like a speaker and a mic yeah it
supports it supports um it supports data
it supports data already with a micro SIM yeah yeah so if you're going to have
a plan for the stupid thing and you don't actually and and if you're one of
the I mean let's face it there are people out there who don't care about a
thin phone these people exist and the Galaxy camera is not that thick like
it's probably if I took look at all the Samsung product placement here Samsung
ssds like if you took sort of a phone and a couple ssds it's kind of like that
without the lens sticking out expand your storage today strap an SSD to your
phone I might be the kind of person who would actually say you know what for the
sake of having an awesome camera and video camera as a
vlogger maybe I don't care about a slim phone anymore if I'm going somewhere
I've got my backpack that's right would you actually mind putting your phone SL
camera in like a drink pouch or something on your
backpack you can play games on it it would be cool if it had the
functionality so that I could bounce my sim right or just get you can get a
supplementary Sim yeah or do something like that something like that if I could
share the plan that would be awesome like a self family plan for your camera
and your phone and your tablet or something and your notebook or something
like that yeah because there's sometimes that I'm going to go and I don't have my
bag cuz that's probably where we're headed and I see no reason why I
shouldn't be able to take a phone call on my notebook if I feel like it yeah or
on my camera if I feel like it why not and while everyone's talking about
everything getting smaller and stuff and like phones Getting Thinner cameras like
you need the sensor you need the lenses you need the distance you have to have
that distance while neither of us are actually experts on cameras we know
basic physics we know Diesel and we know Diesel and we knew this before we knew
dies yes that's true and making the pixels small enough to the point where
like uh like the the the I forget what it's called whatever this I don't know
light light wavelengths yeah where the light wavelength actually is not even
going to be able to hit yeah cuz if pixel's too small you're trying to go
into a box this big with wavelengths like this you're just oversampling so so
yeah that's that's an exciting departure what else we got from Samsung's phone so
they amped up the battery life they amped up the GPU in a big way much more
powerful should be much more competitive uh Samsung nox will be supported so if
you want to bring own device BYOD is a big Trend right now um so you'll have
like a safety spot vers like where your your uh your your work can um sort of
admit it for you and you can DPN and then you'll have like a consumer one
where your Facebook pictures aren't not going to be accessible to your office or
anything like that however Blackberry is moving their secure workstation over to
iOS and Android or secure workspace yeah secure workspace so maybe nox is coming
along at a time when it may not even even end up mattering although this is
interesting because in my opinion if Blackberry did this two maybe three
years ago I think they would be in a way better position because blackberry's
whole thing is workplace yep like it's
it's always been like they they are the business phone or at least they were
they were that's the problem a lot of people started moving their Blackberry
servers out and their Blackberry security and all that kind of stuff because people weren't using
blackberries anymore if Blackberry rolled this out so that people all
businesses kept their Blackberry infrastructure so your theory is that
then when Blackberry got competitive on Hardware again again they'd be instantly
easier to reintegrate everywhere right whereas if there's an infrastructure
change yeah because now people is a very
competitive phone oh yeah for sure um now people that ditched businesses that
ditched are going to have to if they want to roll out blackberries again go
back again and doing another change is going to be hard to push through
management and you look at how long iOS and Android were Superior to blackberry
and yet how long it took businesses to move away from Blackberry because it was
so good like how how how Superior you
have to be to drive someone to your solution versus how mediocre you can be
and Coast on it yeah it's ridiculous and
like at the same time it's not battle but I'm kind of rooting for them yeah I
want Blackberry to live I really want Blackberry live the Z 10's an awesome
phone I want to actually use one it's super light it's kind of like iPhone 5
light like just super I like
uh along those lines the S4 is getting lighter than the S3 and the HTC1 has
some heft to it with its like sexy uh
aluminum 200 minutes on a machine uh
shell that is just well it's like very premium compared to this was an
interesting one quick thing to add Blackberry I think if they still like
just to bounce back on this again if they still had their servers in place so
if they gave out their software what they could have done with the Z 10
release is say look now we have another awesome phone with some added features
for Blackberry secure workspace so they could have differentiated and been a
been a standardized platform which would have driven more sales anyways continue
right uh okay what else we got here uh S
Voice blah blah blah have we missed anything oh it has wireless wireless AC
although I have no idea what performance is going to be like because based on our
experience with like a USB AC adapter it probably won't be any different from in
it's that's my guess and like power power hungry I mean the actual full
performance AC Solutions we run into have heat sinks as big as a phone on
them a little bit bigger actually yeah so uh we don't have it here do we
available 1632 or 64 gigs with plus the
micro SD slot and I think that's pretty
much it so let's wrap up with some of the highlights of the HTC1 so this has
got the same uh the same Snapdragon 600
processor in it 2 gigs of RAM just like the S4 it's got that Ultra pixel camera
it's got the ability to take crap zo zo
Z zois is that zo or zo Z Zoe so it's a
four to five still frames at a time while recording 1080p video which is
very cool I think yeah and the idea is that you'll have kind of like little
talking talking Snippets uh like motion
Snippets kind of like uh like the newspapers and the portraits in Harry
Potter daily profit yeah like in the daily profit and I think it's it's
either going to be really neat or it's going to be kind of gimmicky and I won't
end up using it but I actually don't know it's not one of those things like
um where you you look at it and you're just like ah skip through this stuff
tell me the spec of this stupid thing because I don't care about these gimmicky features so I'm actually
willing to give that a shot um boom sound is a huge Innovation and that's
something that Samsung could have done front-facing speakers come on guys why
did this take so long every tablet and every smartphone from now on should have
front-facing speakers you can write me down as having said that because it
matters if you actually expect this to be a Content consumption device music
movies games all of them benefit from front-facing speakers because cupping
your hand around the back of a phone to hear it properly is stupid and all the
complaints I get from people and it's funny I get a lot of complaints about
the audio levels being too low which is why we boosted them up tonight uh people
are like oh I can't hear it because I'm on my phone and I'm like oh it's because
of your stupid crappy Ultrabook or phone
speaker that doesn't actually go loud enough and people who reply to those
people and say oh just turn your volume up they don't understand you guys are on
a phone not on like a desktop computer where you can just crank it up so we're
trying to get that addressed in recent videos and I hope we've done a pretty
good job of that so uh there's that they have an infrared emitter and uh receiver
built into the power button which I think is a really elegant way to do that so you can use it as a as a universal
remote and of course I mean the chassis just outstanding it's really easy to
hold in spite of the fact that it is 4.7 in and I do have small hands uh it goes
almost Ed to Edge and it is 1080p just like the S4 so this is
basically I guess it's also not out yet but I think it's going to be out first
it's basically like a higher end S4 and then slightly lower clocks much better
build quality right talking about release dates um Samsung S4 is I believe
April 20th um so coming soon exciting about a
month August no it is August it is no that's nope that's something completely
different okay so I don't know the release dates oh that was Saints Row
four by the way we don't know so forget
it we have no idea okay so the last bit about phones we're not going to talk
about phones anymore after this I don't think is that HTC's CMO actually came
out I don't think I told you this yet fight fight in words came out and said
Samsung's Galaxy S4 is quote unquote more of the
same whoa looking to grab some headlines there hey
boss that might be a good tactic for them right now that might be the way to
form of marketing sort of ride on the coattails of the Samsung marketing
engine which exists now for the mobile products so okay last thing last thing
actual last thing so guys for those of you who have been asking me to do an I
switched for Android I am doing it I'm going to be using the HTC1 as my Android
weapon of choice I'm done with Windows Phone 8 we'll be giving away the 8S soon
actually as well as a bunch of phones on the Forum uh soon uh hopefully next week I
guess think we can launch it it depends let's try and lach we're going we're
going to try and launch it next week um but yeah I'm going to do an Android eye
switch and if there's anyone from Blackberry watching please let me know and I'd love to do a Blackberry I
switched after that so I can give you guys that noobs perspective I've used
Android pretty extensively on tablet but I haven't used it much on a phone so
this should be this should be fun uh why don't we do a little bit of Twitter and
then let's move into your down unless you had something you really wanted to do uh no but considering we peeped at it
a second ago Saints Row 4 is announced I think this is one of if not the one of
the first games to be announced since the
THQ since THQ was dissolved people are asking me to do an os10 I switched yeah
Over My Dead Body you can quote me on that too yeah seriously um Saints R 4
release date August 20th in the states August 23rd in Europe oh awesome so I I
think that's the first game that has been announced since the since THQ was
dissolved I might be wrong so don't quote me on that but okay cool
yeah um blah blah blah blah blah blah
like first game announced that was a part of THQ
obviously can neither of you guys
recommend that what's that CM Storm Mouse we use at the
office spawn oh it's a spawn okay sorry I we haven't tried the Sentinel Advance
2 Mouse but the spawn is actually better way better than I thought it was nice
for really nice for claw yeah really nice claw tracks well tracks on a
variety of surfaces we've used it extensively now cuz it's hooked up to our display computer in the ncx tech tip
studio so um yeah let's move into I
don't see anything that interesting on Twitter so uh let's move on to your
downgrade so why don't you start can I actually just steal that sandwich from
you and then you can make a new one and I'm going to take a couple bites while you talk about your experience with
Windows 8 I'd like you to cover it from a number of different angles I actually
um Swit to my laptop just throw it on top
of there and I'm going to go now down on your sandwich here how long using for it
each how long using it for each yeah in
like each of those different scenarios so you used it on Notebook desktop and
you haven't really spent much time with it on touch but
Laptop touch okay I've spent basically a
completely negligible amount start with why you started on Windows 8 okay I
started on Windows 8 because uh my laptop was a development laptop and I
got Windows 8 from school so I was like Hey might as well do it so I started
with the developer preview um it was for a laptop though and all I really did on
that laptop was basic coding which is invi inside an environment so Windows 8
isn't really going to mess with that that much and then I was exporting that and testing it on other machines not my
own machine um and
then basic web browsing like I wasn't doing very much with that laptop at all
so didn't really get tons of usage out of that and that was not a touch screen
laptop you had some frustrations at the beginning like shutting down I okay I
had some frustrations a lot of frustrations shutting down I find
getting to the charms menu if you don't have like this is a touchcreen Windows 8
laptop that I'm on right now if you have a touchcreen you just swipe in and it
comes in very nicely and you swipe out and it goes out very nicely and that's
awesome if you don't have a touchcreen it sucks um that's mainly to do with when
it first came out I've noticed it got a little bit better but I still don't like
it I don't like putting my mouse there and like waiting
then having it just not come up and then I'm like guys I want to can I can I shut
down please and then Metro like or I
guess not Metro modern UI is that it's official name modern UI is not for me at
all I don't like it um again maybe a lot better for touchscreen almost definitely
a lot better for touchcreen but I'm not into it as a desktop user experience it
looks amazing it feels really good
but it takes too long like I'm I just
want to press Start type in my stuff and go for it that was resolved by uh
Windows 8 classic start which I downloaded through 9ite can I uh can I
chime in on Modern UI so one of the issues with modern UI and you look at
even other popular touchscreen interfaces like iOS and Android they are
very touchy very swipy but they don't actually get rid of the folder structure
yeah they still have it and it's still and that was one of the frustrations I
had with Windows Phone 8 and I think is similar to your frustration with modern
UI because if modern UI had tiles but
you could actually have sub tiles you probably would use it it would probably
be fine carry on that probably would not be a big deal at all um I'm kind of a
sucker for having cool backgrounds um so
I like seeing my desktop and I like having a clean desktop I always go uh
view don't show icons so I can have nice very very clean backgrounds even on my
phone the home screen of my phone is
completely blank
um if I can get past all these popups the home screen of my phone is
completely blank you can't really see very well right there but there's no icons except for the mandatory ones at
the bottom which I can probably get rid of if I ROM it with something weird but
it is not currently romed with something weird so there's mandatory icons on the
bottom um okay so those are like the
initial feelings with my laptop although
not a big deal and I just kind of left it there because that was not a high
usage laptop file copy is amazing I I'll go into that but I didn't
really do that way too much on my laptop anyways um then I'm like okay Windows 8
is released I have an official version I'm going to try and dive in because I I
had to reinstall uh my Windows 7 installation on my desktop was pretty
messed up and was probably going to stop booting pretty soon because of how
messed up it was that was my fault by the way um I'm not going to go way too
into it but yeah um I had to reinstall
so I was like okay I might as well dive in and try Windows 8 I've got everything
on my data drive anyways I'm just reinstalling an operating system and
basically ning my program so it's not really that big of a deal um Nite by the
way if you're wondering why I keep saying this weird word it's n i nit T
and then just that.com and you can go to the website it's really awesome way to
install a whole bucket full of programs that you usually install when you're
setting up a new computer anyways anyways okay so user experience
with my desktop a few random problems that I haven't seen a ton of people
complain about um but I know it's not my Hardware because I've tried it with
other installs with Windows 8 and another uh no I mean other installs with
Windows 7 sorry it's I get random screen
flickers where it will just like in about a quarter of a second
it'll just invert my screen and then flip it back and I'm like whoa what just
happened and then other times it'll just go completely black screen but only on
my main Monitor and it's not my driver I
re like like I've done tons of troubleshooting for it um then I've got
other problems like just just weird like
things won't really work very well like have a lot of problems with USB 3 um
really you had told me about that one I kind of got it working but like it's
still just like sometimes it won't detect things um and just like just
weird problems with that some games like I can't play crisis Warhead speaking of
games not being we played over here you
guys can kind of see it this test bench is I'm doing 8350 versus 3570k I've done
pretty much all actually yeah all of the Windows 7 testing that didn't take me
very long because everything worked and then I had to set up a new SSD I knew
everything with Windows 8 and the idea was we're going to do Windows 8 versus
Windows 7 we're going to do Windows 8 on its own we're going to do like like
we're going to try and do a whole bunch of stuff to add on to Logan's testing
with 3570k versus 8350 so I to do a whole bunch of scenarios that he may not
have done yet so we can just add to the discussion because that's a really interesting really good discussion um I
couldn't play Witcher 2 wouldn't play
Metro 2033 would not pull any save files
from the ice cuzy for who knows why um
Dirt 3 wouldn't play like all this stuff would not run at all so I tried
reinstalling just absolutely everything and I think I'm going to be
trying that again on Monday hopefully if I have some time I'll probably have some
time um so hopefully that will actually work this time and that's not my own
personal rig but that is something I've directly worked on so that is a personal
experience um ah what were some of the
other problems certain programs have weird permission requirements like for
steam to be able to run you need to run it as an administrator why it's steam
come on for xfire to be able to run on Startup it needs to be always run as an
administrator why why right like why
that's so weird and like a lot of these problems were like okay I guess I'll go
change that and allow this program to have administrator rights for whatever
reason um but it's just bizarre it wasn't that big of a deal but it was the
screen problems that I had which finally booted me off did we get into the bit
where we assumed Windows 7 and Windows 8 would have equal gaming performance
because they're based on the same kernel using the same driver pretty much wasn't
even going to talk about those numbers we can bring it up if you don't mind talking about it before the video yeah
well we're not let's not go into depth but guys we have a Windows 7 versus
Windows 8 using Intel and AMD I told
them set of gaming comparisons coming and we are seeing some pretty
interesting weird stuff 20% performance drops going from Windows 7 to Windows 8
and then sometimes where sometimes equal and then sometimes where there's a huge
drop but then that's without anti-aliasing and then I add
anti-aliasing and nothing changes for frame rates like exact same frame ratees
running these to replicate to see if we can replicate it and it's just like
Bizarro land kind of stuff and rerunning them like a lot more than I normally do
because I'm like no no no no this is weird so with all of that said I think
you and I can both still agree Windows 8 is optimal for a device like this it's
awesome for touch it's great for touch it's great for tablets it's awesome for
all that kind of stuff I mean if you want a mobile x86 platform so this is
the Iconia w700 we have an unboxing that's going to be uploaded soon
outstanding something like a touch notebook would you go Windows 7 or
Windows 8 um for most my use cases for a
notebook I'm not gaming whoa I totally missed that I'm not
gaming for most my use cases for a notebook so not gaming um web browsing
work in Excel work in PowerPoint work in word all that kind of stuff yeah yeah
honestly I love this notebook so much in fact I'll take it back from you now um
and Windows 8 is part of it the touch screen touch screen is one of those
things where people say oh I can scroll just as easily with my keyboard and
mouse you know what you don't necessarily want to sit with your hands on your computer while you read an
article so maybe you want to rest them and maybe it's faster to just go scroll
scroll scroll and sometimes the user experience of just being able to go uh
that or I want to do this and just like touch the things is kind of nice instead
of using these interfaces um so yeah
just to recap I don't hate Windows 8 I don't even dislike it it's just not
perfect for my desktop user experience I will probably stick with it on my laptop
um and I don't have a tablet so yeah so I probably won't be moving to Windows 8
on my desktop um I just installed Windows 7 last night on my personal rig
I had to reformat because of a an a situation where I accidentally unplugged
half of my RAID array uh while the computer was powered on and that doesn't
really work so well with raid zero yeah raid zero it's not a good thing um so
anyway I went Windows 7 partly because
of the gaming experience that we're having on the test band chair although I don't know how much of that could be
just we need to we need to do a lot more
we haven't replicated it on a second machine yet yeah do that as well so you
know take all that with a grain of salt um but aside from that spending some
more time with it on the notebook here I mean I don't like having things like
control panel moved around on me I don't like having things like search moved
around on me um and the search is weird cuz it can only search in like files
settings what I meant the categories of search I find frustrating like why um
the start menu fixes a lot of the issues but not necessarily quite all of them
and it has its own kind of problems classic star has its own problems and I
really like arog glass yeah which is kind of dorky but I like being able to
see through the top of things and like you know what's weird you can make a
transparency for some of the stuff but not all but not everything like the
Bottom bar the Tas bar will go transparent but then the top bar top
bars will not and like at first he
brought that up he's like oh I miss AOG glass and I like no big deal and then
I'm like oh well I use it I kind of want
it back I use it I use it to see what's under stuff like even just that top bar
that little sliver and it just looks right oh I know it looks so good like
you should be able to see through it like no I don't know not a big deal one
thing that I'm going to miss a lot which you again don't care about no wait no
not the file copy not okay file copy amazing so good I wish I could just like
download the file copy UI I mean Terra copy is okay but it's not well
integrated with Windows no not very well and like yeah whatever um and then and
then task manager the new task manager is really no no I agree 100% new task
manager is outstanding so I'm going to miss those two things and then one thing that you don't care about at all but if
you are running a whole bunch of backgrounds and you have them switching
if you have multiple monitors each one can have its own background there has to
be some third party utility there is third party utility is it one you have
to pay for it okay two it just sucks
okay so like H I don't know all right
then um yeah so there you go
guys what are your impressions of Heart of the
Swarm okay so I haven't played enough multiplayer yet the campaign is awesome
um if you like RTS campaigns especially if you like star I suggest going and
playing it and play it all the way through because the story wraps up kind
of nicely there's a few times where I'm like really did you really just do that
why did you just do that but it ends up wrapping us wrapping up very nicely um
multiplayer some of the new units that came out are really cool interesting fun
all that kind of stuff balance I think might be a little bit odd right now were
they weren't they thinking of removing carriers they were going to remove carriers which was going to remove me
from the game because I just have that's like classic I love carriers man and
like whenever I get to late game it's always fun to just like play normally
and then all a sudden be like carriers because they never expect it oh so much
fun um anyways so and like okay the
unbalanced thing is coming from a person
that plays protos and is finding certain units on protos unbalanced in a way that
they're slightly overpowered so I'm not being biased being like Oh Taran and
zerich are overpowered like there's certain units on my team that are kind
of nuts um there's one flyer unit that has a whole bunch of abilities but you
can change its mode talk as if you're talking to them and they know what you're talking about you you can change
its mode which makes it constantly use energy but that means that it can now
shoot it can't normally Auto attack um but it's really fast moving and it
doesn't cost nearly as much as say a a
void Ray um so you can get it in behind
Minal Lin is you can get it in behind
mineral lines really really quickly activate this energy ability and just de
imate mineral lines and then fly them away the energy will constantly go down
even if you're not shooting so you have to be careful with toggling it and stuff
but just the speed at which you can clear minion lines or uh mineral lines
is insane and they're really fast and they're not that expensive so you can
pump out three and then jump behind the guy's miral line and just like clear it
and that's game over and just be like sup GG Noob have fun making a little bit
more money not being able to afford anti-air turrets and having me just rewipe your mineral every time it's
they're really good and now like I've only played a couple multiplayer games I
honestly don't even really know the new units for the other races um so I'm
probably not the best person to talk to about this and there might be really good counters for them and realistically
they might suck um but every time I've used them it's just been kind of
ridiculous I've just disallowed the other team from having workers at all so
I don't know that's kind of cool but not fair so yeah really really fun I need to
get more used to it I've been out of Starcraft for a while I haven't played
for a really long time ladder matches last night was like the first time I've
done ladder matches in months right so I'm pretty out of it but maybe next
stream I'll be able to come back with a much more knowledgeable opinion on it on
the multiplayer side at least so overall recommended for 39 I was surprised to
see a $ 39.99 price point it's not a full price expansion yeah that's awesome
that is cool and especially from someone like blizzard who who's like yeah
release full price expansions all the time but then yeah it's not a full price
expansion the campaign is not short I beat it in two days but that was like
that was two pretty intense days I had to saw yeah I like would disappear after
work and then stay up until like 5 or 6 in the morning and then come
back to work the next day you were so crabby in a couple of those
mornings um like you're baned I was going to I was tempted to be like look
you can't play Starcraft until that late at night and come to work cranky like
that but that's what was important um
yeah that is the important thing I suppose beating a video game they they
added a lot of really cool changes now um there's levels so you're
like your person levels up I guess I think you gain levels depending on what
race you're playing so like I'm a whatever level protos and I could be a
different levels Z I think and while you're playing like as you spawn units
as you kill units as you build buildings you gain experience and then you gain
experience depending on like how long the game was and all this kind of stuff which add a cool Dynamic which is more
fun for not the extremely hardcore players which is like oh cool I'm
leveling upov more stats stats and
achievements exactly there's way more of that kind of stuff in the game which
honestly it it is kind of cheesy but I just love it it's cool I like leveling
up in Starcraft I like getting experience in Star cuz just like oh
that's cool like I I built this unit and then killed this dude so I got
experience for building the unit and I got experience for killing him like I
don't know it's kind of cool it is cheesy but it's kind of cool I like it
did you ever uh yes we do have a build log of the week okay I'll have to I'll
have to open that up on there when we get a minute next time you're talking for a bit but um why don't we move to
Twitter we've still got a lot here why don't we burn through some of the quick
some of the quick discussion topics okay so corer released 3 gigahertz that's
3,000 mahz memory um did you you see
this yet no okay curiously enough they released it under the Vengeance branding
rather than Dominator yeah so they're Vengeance modules so they're not using
the custom PCB they're not using or they might be using a custom PCB okay that I
don't know don't quote me on that but they're Vengeance modules they are going
to be extremely limited production and
extreme overclockers only need apply
because not only do you have to have the 3 gigz memory which is going to be
really expensive for two 4 gig dims but you will also need to have a CPU that
can actually handle 3 GHz on the uh
integrated memory controller and will that they can't all do that will that
like actually heat up DDR3 probably I
can't imagine this is like a stock voltage there's no way that's like cuz
DDR3 doesn't heat up that much no but the binning process that's going into oh
God 3 GHz I don't even want to know that's probably why they're Vengeance
modules because the volume of modules
that they would have to build to bin enough 3 GHz kits to ship because
Vengeance are a higher volume part compared to dominators that's probably what happened so there you go there's
the answer to the question that I couldn't figure out by me yeah yeah
someone just commented in the twitch chat he's like finally he said something
you actually need liquid cooling for but I was like yeah you don't really need to cool RAM so maybe you will actually have
to cool your RAM I mean these are intended for like liquid nitrogen
cooling yeah so expecting people to push these well beyond 3 gz oh yeah so that's
kind of neat if you're into memory overclocking I think very few people are
these days though no as far as I know not so much so there's a rumored oh okay
this uh oh you know what I wanted to do this I'm going to uh I'm going to go to
the Linus Tech tips forum and I'm going to go to the news section because I do
like to check our Tech news and reviews section on the Forum and uh pick out
guys who posted news threads that I thought were interesting so our 3 GHz
memory News Post was from seai Bell I
don't know whatever I don't know what that is so at only $749.99 uh this was
uh this was posted by one of the members of our Forum also there was a post on
the AMD 7790 and NVIDIA GTX 655 TI that
are rumored to be released at some point point so I don't know uh I don't know
anything about these cards to be perfectly honest I don't know if they're real I don't know if they're actually
coming but what I would imagine that they are because I don't think there's
any new architectures coming right now um what I'd imagine they are is they're
just overclocked 7770 and uh 650 TI
probably that makes sense because they both overclock well um like 7 7770
particularly is like yeah a beast overclocker so they could just go okay
higher power envelope turn the clock speed up 7770 is one of my favorite cars
to overclock CU it's just like um so that's probably what's coming
on that side they're likely to line up
sort of perfectly with each other because they're going to be speed bumps
of cards that compare reasonably well although I'd expect the 7790 to continue
to beat the 655 TI um if that's what they end up
being called all this is complete speculation and rumors I know nothing
about them which is why I can talk about them right if I knew I wouldn't be able
to talk about it um because of our
results where our overclocked
7770 competes very favorably against the overclocked 650 TI so that's what leads
me to believe that a higher bin of both versions right would favor AMD so right
uh so there's that one so that one was posted by
artorius on the Forum so let's go ahead and I'm going to S Like a Warrior all
arus sorus so he's got some Sapphire's
official Facebook announcement as well as so he's got references to other sites
which is good we don't want just random rumors that don't refer to anything so
that's uh that's exciting so there was another one this one was the one aha so
game developers say PlayStation 4 will
outow most PCS for years to come now
when we actually click on it this was started by Dragon Tale Dragon Tale that
was a bit of a tionalist headline there
because what the game devs actually said if we read a little bit further here is
recent debate about new console something something has developers
starting to come out and say that the PS4 will outperform entry level Hardware
in the PC market that includes graphics
cards around 4 gigs of RAM for years to
come so okay couple of things here um
number one is entrylevel PC Hardware is
so far behind high-end PC Hardware I
mean you look at entry-level graphics cards things like a 610 a 610 is still
basically a lowend firmy like that was is a six I
don't think 610 is even Kepler I think so and and even like back when in the
400 series I think they rebadged 210 at
some point point and made those 400 series like there's a lot of rebadging
that goes reing happens all the time on the lowend stuff because quite frankly
they sell them for so little that it's hardly even worth the R&D to redevelop
the chips the people who are buying these cards are more interested in
features like multim monitor than gaming
um I I maintain you shouldn't buy a graphics card that's less than $100 if
you're spending less than $100 on a graphics card you might as well put it in a piggy bank and save up for a
platform upgrade because you can get Apu platforms you buy new CPU memory and
motherboard for a couple hundred bucks that are going to outperform an
entry-level graphics card from either NVIDIA or AMD we have videos from quite
a while ago now actually but Apu videos
they do really well y like surprisingly well if you want entry-level gaming
performance don't buy an entry-level gaming graphics card because that isn't
what it is buy an APU just do it uh CPU performance is decent it's not it's not
on par with Intel but the graphics core
is way ahead of what Intel's delivering right now although Haswell May shift
things around a little bit because I was looking at the um the amount of core
space that Intel is allocating to GPU
CPU is like not going up at all in terms of the actual size like it's going to be
just optimizations from what I can tell but then what they're doing on the GPU
is they're like doubling it wow like way more die space so that's that's exciting
well they needed to compete there a bit more to be honest so so anyway so yeah I
mean saying something like it they'll be competitive with entry I mean Xbox 360
is probably still competitive with entry-level PCS that's like a
six-year-old console it's like wow how far into your crystal ball did you have
to look for that with that said the vast
majority of people out there are not running gaming computers and that's
something that we enthusiasts forget about sometimes there's a lot of 8800s
there's a lot of 260s there's a lot of stuff that's way crappier than that
that's true there's a lot of like you know 8600 GTS still out there there's a
lot of 8500s still out there lot of previous stuff still out there there's a
lot of Gamers who are still living at home with their parents using whatever
computer their parents bought from a big box store one of my like they want to
play games but one of my really really really good buddies is running an an
eco-friendly 8800 that only has one uh
PCI Express power plugin that's exactly the same as the
regular 8800 there's a little tidbit for you it was just a it was just a revision
to the core that made it slightly more power efficient it's power its
performance is exactly the same as a non-co well we've benched it and they
were different that's very maybe that's binning or something that happened there
that's very strange we'll have to look I'll have to
look into that one more outside of the stream um but yeah he still plays
absolutely everything yep and you know the the reality of it is uh the PCS sort
of you know the greatest thing about about it and the worst thing about it is
the flexibility of the hardware so you can make a game for PC and if you make a
game for 90% of the PCS out there the way blizzard does you end up with games
like Diablo II that look like they're 10 years old but the reality of it is that's
still a PC game and consoles Next
Generation consoles will be ahead of that level for a long time yeah because
you you can develop for exactly the spec Y which is nice so there's that
optimization that goes on as well um if we don't have anything we should
jump on Twitter we haven't really been on Twitter at all yeah sure let's jump on Twitter for a little bit see if uh
see if anyone's got any Twitter things if I could actually get the window open
that would be great there we go I do so
love this little uh keyboard mouse thing LOL my friend got ripped off at fries
they said 800 watt power supply water cooling Etc nope he wasted money on a
gt640 3 gig and that's another thing about that statement from the game DS
what do you mean a 4 gab graphics card that doesn't mean anything you could put
4 GB in fact I think someone did put 4 gigs of memory on a low-end uh gt600
series I'm just looking at that come on
that card is going to be bottlenecked by the time it fills up 512 Megs of vram
because any modern game that actually has highres textures a turn them off
because they're not going to run on that card and B you're going to be running at
such a low resolution you're not going to need the vram
anyway um we usually mean competitive in terms of performance I think re in that
3200 integrated GPU I think that's an older one from like the express chipsets
that's not quite the same as an APU just throwing that out there it's me playing
games with a 9800 yep 650 TI with one or
two gigs vram one one gig vram is fine
for 650 TI is it interesting the T balancer T balancer
next one can you talk about your tea balancer uh I've talked about this on the live streams before so I don't want
saying recommended he's asking if he should buy one we've talked about why we
liked it we haven't talked about why we don't like it it's really hard to configure it's such a pain it's hard to
even find an English version of the stupid software last time I did it which
was like a couple years ago mind you I tried to do it more recently and could not get an English version working I
think you have to get the German version and then you have to figure out how to
change it to English within the German version reading the German menus and
apparently that works so like like there's a lot of usability things that
are kind of weird but once you have it set up it's set and forget you never
touch it again I I didn't touch it for literally years and it just
automatically configured everything through multiple rebuilds of my computer
I just didn't change anything about my T balanc or just remembered which fans
kind of plugged into what and like it's awesome but you're going to have to fight with it a bit that's all okay we
are going to have a featured rig from the forums a featured build log but I
don't I don't want to click on anything in Twitter right now just in case it's
like goatsy or something I'm trying to OC my 777s but can only get a small over
clock you got way higher try turning up the voltage that might be
something oh oh you know what I think I might have made a mistake PC computer
geek might be right we usually line up 7770 with the non-ti don't
we yes TI is lined up with do we even I
don't remember okay you'll have to check that out I'll get that one
sec um no we yeah no he's right because
it's 650 I'm just do we even run 650 TI I don't think we do so there you go we
were totally wrong in that whole discussion about that any giveaways
today probably no giveaways today yeah we run 650 660 660 Ti and 670 is the
Aries 2 all sold probably ATI can only
use physx by running calculations off the CPU how much of an impact on FPS is
this well a lot of games it's like kneecapped by the way that FSX is
implemented so yeah you never explained
Cherry MX green switches in your mechanical keyboard Techquickie video
can you explain its advantages and disadvantages it's basically heavier
blue and the reason we didn't talk about it was because find a keyboard that
actually has okay I know there are some but they're very well yeah but that's
not even out yet we're not they're not even supposed to be talking to us about
that you're going to get them in trouble sh I they previewed at CIS they
previewed it at CES but there are very few keyboards out there with Cherry MX
green and it may gain some popularity moving forward but they are more
expensive and they are much less rare than the usual blue red brown black key
switches they have it on their website as new for 99 bucks okay well there you
go okay apparent 99 Only is that a 10 keyless oh yeah that's an expensive 10
key list then yeah that's still keyboard with green switches all right exciting
he he just said they're heavier Blues they also have a more accurate actuation
Point Blues have a slight problem that people and like okay this I use
exclusively Blues on everything um but Blues have a slight problem where if you
float right under the click you can um
hit the actuation Point repeatedly so there's double tapping issues that
people will have if they're trying to click really really quickly where they'll accidentally go back down before
they click and they'll actuate it too many times so the actuation point is not
exactly on the click greens is way more
accurate in that aspect than Blues now in saying this Blues are pretty darn
accurate like you're not going to have you're not going to have this problem
that often but that is a notable difference is the greens do have a more
accurate click an actuation Point level okay little bit more Twitter uh is
it worth it to oh uh corser 200 R is a good good budget case uh we're using one
for our video capture PC that we're running on right now is it worth it to
get a big bang 2 that supports 128 GB of RAM I don't know if I would run wait
where are you going to get 128 gigs of RAM on an x79 you need 16 gig dims so
good luck with that rumors of those are they coming soon coming out soon non ECC
16 gig dims rumors okay I don't know
I've just read You' be spending a fortune on it by the time you spent that
much on 16 gig dims if this is for a video editing and rendering station get
yourself a dual socket super micro board throw a couple of zons in there and then
get lower density 8 gig dims and fill it up just fill it up and then you can get
your 128 gigs of RAM and get more processing power and a proper
workstation platform at the same time probably for a fairly uh not at the
price 16 gig dims will probably be probably a fairly competitive price
cheaper yeah yeah to be honest lus wanted to get your opinion should I wait
for the 900d or get something now like a phantom 630 Phantom 630 is not very
comparable to the 900d I mean 900d is a monster 630 is quite like it's a mid
Tower almost it's like full steel and aluminum isn't it yeah it's like full
metal for the 900d whereas a very plastic design for the 630 I think you
need to decide exactly what you want and then decide what to buy I'd probably go
with a 7950 or a 60 TI I mean that's a
good M oh 347 maybe a 660 660 is a great value or a
7870 or 7850 when is slick going to upload
videos to his YouTube channel that is for that channel that you see when I
comment on YouTube videos is for replying to comments on YouTube videos I
am not planning on releasing anything on that channel uh Slick's personal rig has
been updated yep uh people asked you to talk about your personal rig and we never
talked about it during the Windows 8 thing okay um I'm running I'm water
cooling with a t- virus and a 12.3
um PA 12.3 donated by someone very
gracious um I'm running a 2600k and
moving to a GTX 670 water cooled this
one's very very short yeah it's really short very short mini card it's
literally about this looks really small in the 800 it's a little bit ridiculous
um but it actually kind of works for my water loop yeah cuz it'll be in the right
position to so you won't have to re replum and buy you tubing so it actually
kind of works um I have a lot of I don't
want to do a personal rig update video because I have a lot of work on that rig
that I need to do before I want to release a personal update video uh the
mineral oil rig had enough novelty in it that it was just kind of awesome um but
like currently I love the power that's there's like junk growing in his Loop
and he doesn't want to show you guys actually that goes away and comes back
because of the silver fittings right now it's not there is it not there right now
no it's not oh that's weird but it comes back it's the silver fittings it cleans
it and then gets dirty it's because I don't think I have enough if I had
silver fittings on my D5 okay I think it would be
enough like eight silver fittings in it yeah have six yeah okay um if and adding
in that graphics card might actually solve it okay if I add two more silver
fittings there that might actually fix my problem okay or I can just add a kill
coil or something but anyways uh I still need to like lik seve my power supply um
yeah your power supply looks ghetto it's a high current ugly it's awesome power
supply yeah High current Pro 1200 wat or something ridic it's beast and like
unnecessary but whatever um but totally
beast and ugly super ugly so I need to
sleeve that um I'm in an 800d but like
the front looks horrible it's a little bit broken there's some scratches like I
I need to so beat up like it's really beat up um one of my roommates that I
had who was often Under the Influence
utilized the cardboard panels from the
box for my 800d to build
something I was I came home and I'm just
like what and this is like weeks afterwards cuz I just had the box for it
in the back room and never really thought about it right and I'm like K well I can't transport my 800d in a box
anymore it's just so heavy which is insanely really hard to move around and
like have it not like if it SL like once it gain momentum if it starts moving in
the back of a car it's going to smack and then that creates scratches so like
it's it's an 800d but it's like probably one of the least attractive 800 DS in
existence not really um but it's it's
not doing so it's down there it's definitely down there so that needs to
be replaced I need to leave my cables like there's work that needs to be done before I want to release but you're
saving for a car I'm saving up for a car he's saving for a car so he can drive me
around for a change instead of the other way around yeah so like it's going to be
a while but yeah that's that's my rig can we put like um like benchmarker SL
programmer SL shofur on your business cards when we have them printed oh my
God we got to do that that would be so amazing that would be perfect we have to
have chauffeur on we should have leaky chauffeur you'll have to Leaky chauffeur
yeah his car now actually the roof leaks it's a Pontiac which should be all you
it's a convertible in BC it got cold and it cracked it's an old car PTI old
probably leaked at the beginning no no no it's an old car why do you defend the
Pontiac cuz I like that car what is good
everything about it is terrible it doesn't even have cup holders that's
stupid it's convertible you don't need cup what do you mean it's a convertible
you don't need cup holders nothing slides with you I was
hoping you wouldn't notice that that's that's like I can't even compare that to
anything that's like saying it's a it's a it's a it's it's a Rancher it doesn't
need it was my first car it's gotten me around and it's awesome in the summer
it's amazingly awesome in the summer you know the cruise around with the top down
in the summer when it's hot is just kind
of awesome okay Pontiac whatever your car
be Leaf runs oh I need to change
gears okay we're still moving well maybe if I wasn't driving your huge ass around
everywhere my car would still run it was broken weigh about double what I do what
I thought we figured out actually no it's not
bad whatever you look like you weigh um twice as hard to look at there
Bam Bam um what was I going to say I don't
care I can't even remember whatever something about your stupid car I like
my car um something about your personal
rig oh yeah you're saving up for a car so you're not going to do all the
upgrades right away that's right away yeah but I am planning like eventually
all this will happen and then I will eventually release a rig update but like
I wouldn't I wouldn't hold up for it uh new slore fans for my PC or save
up for a GTX 680 lightning I don't know if your computer's really loud I've done
cooling upgrades as opposed to performance upgrades but it really depends what video card you're running
now although 680 lightning isn't necessarily the best choice unless you
want to run 3D Vision or NVIDIA um or rather um 3D Vision or fiz X orud go
what games you play and then check out some of our videos yeah 7970 may end up
being a better choice for you like something like a um sh what's that ASUS
one The Matrix one Matrix 7970 is awesome card we did an NCI Tech tips
quite a while ago showing that even without the never settle driver it was
already the fastest single card went overclock to the Max and we ran into
gains to 680 lightning and the never settle driver is like kind of a big deal
yeah kind of a huge deal Sean contributes that Windows 8 has been
super Shady on his Grand mother's new computer apparently to run some
Microsoft games in Windows 8 you need a new app and steam's not providing it so
that might be something for you to look into I uh we're probably not going to do
a video on OC Basics because we do specific videos on NC Tech tips for
every new platform anyway so just go check out our overclocking guides over
there and you should pick up pretty much most of what you need to know my mouse
isn't working oh there it goes yay it's
back and honestly the Windows 8 comments like the usability of different things
is like I was able to deal with that it's the monitor randomly inverting and
going black right that I'm not able to deal with because like I've died so many
times in games just cuz I'm like oh I have a black screen and I can't do anything for six or seven seconds and in
a lot of games when you can't do anything for six or seven seconds you're
kind of scream um okay a little bit more Twitter Q&A so Robert asks if his fx8350
showing four physical cores and eight logical cores and task manager is normal
and it I don't know is that normal because pile driver cor P pile driver
modules have are sort of like a core and a half yeah they're they're funky but
it's not quite like not a core at all the way hyperthreading is so it's
probably normal as long as it shows eight logical then it should be fine by
the way slick defense fer kindly so
basically my car is a Ferrari it's a Pontiac Ferrari built by Pontiac
Ferrari slick can drive to wreck beach in his convertible Pontiac exactly that
is how classy a convertible Pontiac
is Bam and welcome lime fire the Lexus
LFA has no cup holders and it's an amazing car don't judge a car by its cup
holders okay okay how about this how about the fact that the Pontiac has no
cup holders and isn't an amazing car how
about the cup holders are just one thing for me to pick on in in like 20 years
all it's needed is new spark plugs okay
bam and pretty good runs great and a serious like non suckitude
makeover uh is slick a family member how is he always with you he works me way
too much yeah that's pretty much it I'm not getting paid right now actually
you're not no no although you're salaried so technically you are getting
paid right now just not very
much like really
small are you planning a project car I can't imagine you you're not that
mechanically inclined are you I do okay
I do I right my dad is okay and then I
kind of get some from there my dad's kind of a wizard when it comes to
anything so um Chris I don't think we need more heat sink manufacturers I
think Scythe exiting the North American Market was sort of all we needed to know
they had for that yeah good unique products and couldn't make it over here
because we have enough heat SN manufacturers be quiet! recently moved
over even yeah they did recently is um I have a blah blah blah blah yep
definitely go for it Richard do you think Samsung's features are actually
useful or just bloat Weare ruining Android what monitor are you going to
use now that your old one broke my mother always told me if you
don't have anything nice to say do say anything at all skip over it and address
the next question um I am I don't know he's thinking about
a leonitis yeah I'm looking into the leonitis I'm thinking about getting
repaired I would love to drop like five
grand on Sharp's 32 in 4k monitor but I
think my wife would kill me like absolutely kill me so
um yeah I don't know yet if I can repair
the 305t for a reasonable price then I'll do that in all likelihood just
tuned in from England yay hi England uh my main question with the tea balancers
can it actually switch the fans off absolutely the fan curves are fully
configurable and fully actually work although I'd recommend using voltage
control and I probably wouldn't recommend using WM fans have you thought
of combining forces with 10 Syndicate or do you plan to continue to be
competitors 10 Syndicate well Logan's on the east coast and we're on the west
coast so unless yeah unless one of us was planning to move I don't think we'd
be like merging our companies because he's running his own business now too
much the same way that I am um however I really don't see us as competitors
Logan's awesome we like Logan yeah we like Logan like a lot I mean we've
emailed him we've like Twitter chatted with him I've never met him in person
unfortunately that I'm hoping to at some point but uh yeah we guys hey go
subscribe raise the world with a zero not to no um on YouTube Tech Syndicate
go subscribe because Logan's a good guy and his format is so different from ours
it's good I mean I like it we both do benchmarks but his news show is much
more structured it's more of a recorded show whereas our news show is like live
Q&A um subscribing to both channels you
have that much of a Content style overlap and you would probably if and
you'll get a couple different perspectives yeah it's cool get M slicks
Logan uh subscribe to Paul Hardware as well as well as uh awesome sauce news
that's Kyle from Newegg yeah all good all good
guys uh okay let's see 520 watt 80 plus
Platinum is that the uh the passive one if so good work Melvin because the pass
is boss you know what I figured out I think that one is built on the
same plat form as the XFX th000 watt Platinum that I'm using yeah yeah you
told me about that and the fans on my radiator are air penetrators so they're
directed air flow so if I at least have that one running a little bit I will can
have no fan at all in my power supply because 520 watts is lots for what I'm
doing in fact is it 520 or
550 5 520 yeah I can see it it's over
there uh how about how is pump rattle in
the h100 uh neither of our h100s is bad
yeah I I owned an IBM model M for a little while and then someone took it
back from me after I cleaned it up how many Canadian viewers do you have I I
don't know
400 42 five six first time I watched the
stream in real time all right can't pronounce your name but that's cool whoa
is an SLI config of 660 non TI okay you
know what probably not a bad idea 660 is not that far behind the TI and as long
as you don't need the extra vram of getting a higher end card with more
video memory you should be able to get a pretty significant performance boost to
the tune of of better than you would do by selling a 660 and getting a 670 or
something like that um dark genin it's
not N Night classic start I just
download classic start I think it's Classic Shell for Windows 8 from the N
Night website just want to clarify that
uh I'm only 13 I'm not posting strange pictures yeah I was a perfect angel on
the internet when I was 13 too either way we don't want to risk it
because we've clicked on stuff that kind of killed people's ears before Tim
already knows the answer
n12 Logan likes one of your CES he likes one of our CES we did like 50 what a
jerk good enough don't subscribe to Logan I take back everything I said
before about subscribing to Logan I don't even care I still like Logan
whatever man okay let's see if we've got oh EVGA released their utility for
changing the lighting yes 690 and Titan
so you can uh lower the brightness increase the brightness you can set it
to breathing breathing mode which is like I love breathing mode for LEDs it's
just awesome although what I think I would probably do if I was balling
enough to have a Titan is I would set it up depending on GPU load it can go
brighter or dimmer so cool so cool that's the kind of stuff that really
makes me geek out that's awesome I love stuff like that that's why I like
um uh tactical tracers crucial tactical tracers RAM I tried to install the
application on my computer it just says unsupported motherboard I haven't done a
BIOS update though it's still running BIOS V1 and it's running that weird Zeon
chipset it's running a workstation chipset so I might try taking the
modules putting them in an x79 or like a z68 board or something and then moving
them and moving them back over cuz I think it saved on the modules themselves
I think so but I think so I don't don't quote either on that yeah we don't we
don't actually know so there what was I going to say yeah and
in combination that would actually be pretty cool oh that'd be so
cool probably want to do like an LED color swap on the Titan though like if
there you could probably do it cuz you could take the green out of the cooler and probably put in blue I bet it's not
even a colored LED looking at that color that's not a green LED color that would
be that would look so good like blue GTX
wo that would be cool uh speaking of
like mods and Rigs and stuff like that I'm actually just you should probably
not have your sending myself oh yeah guys please don't read my
emails uh I don't think there's anything here that's that bad but you've got
stuff from like from people so their names are there and stuff yeah that they
might care about that that email from that guy is like the most bizarre thing
that uh that I've seen in a while I don't even see it it's uh they want us
to promote some contest or something to win like a TV or something we talk about
the the I have no idea what you're talking about I don't know if I can talk
about here I'll type it one sec are you drunk no I just don't know how to
describe this sure yeah go for it um I don't even
know who it is it's um your it's uh oh
crap you know what let's just save it then cuz I can't remember who makes now they're all going to be like what H
we'll talk we'll talk about it later okay okay so let's do our featured build
blog of the week from the lonus tech tips Forum so our featured build log is
from joric wait a minute didn't we already feature this did
we uh oh what you talking about Willis did
we you have to log in all right I have
to log in to see images uh I can't change that I'm sorry I think we already
featured this one okay well jorck you're on again because it's too late for me to
fix it now um uh uh uh I had other
competitors okay live stream was very rush today
okay I don't remember my password for the Forum right now so we're not at our
best right now here
guys there we go I'm logged in was this the first one I think yeah I we
definitely featured this crap none of those were the completed pictures
anyways way to go did you show the wrong pictures when we actually featured it
oh I might not have showed I might not have showed all the pictures okay fine
just we're just going to feature yoro again go to the very last and we're
going to go to the very end of his build blog why you go
okay all right it's
not there it goes okay so we're going to
look at his build properly this time so
slick why don't you cover everything that's good about it here you can use
this to uh yeah this was apparently feature before sorry guys
guys this was very last minute we didn't have internet in the office today that
was so fail like so fail I had to try
and find a build log so I was trying to find build logs without
pictures which is like kind of hard to do you just have to go based on memory
of build logs you've seen before that are good so I was I was well I was
reading the comments and trying to figure out what was going on with this
one and I was like this sounds awesome so went with this and that apparently
didn't work out too great um tell us about the rig though that looks awesome
it looks amazing it's based on like crop circles that's why it's called
phenomenon so kind of cool cool naming to go along with your style a lot of
planning that went into this if you look into earlier posts like he gets into
actually um what uh like I think it's
called drafting I don't know if that's the official name for what he did
specifically but he drafted out like what he was going to do for this crop
circle and like the rest of the design of the case um a lot of really really
cool maet window this it's very clean
like you can even see that picture right there that is incredibly clean that's
outstanding this I never saw so there you go um he uses M&D PC sleeving MD MD
PC U oh I'm thinking million dollar PC
um like just insanely clean everything
about it is clean the I love the white fittings yeah I was just going to say
the white fittings are awesome um the the sleeving situation he has going on
is really interesting because a lot of people go with nice patterns and stuff
like one one or two two or like half and
half but he kind seen a lot of people do like one accent one or one accent one
but he kind of flipped it around a little bit and that's scary because you
can flip it around a little bit and it might not look very good and then you just sleeved everything doesn't look
very good but this looks really good we have a visitor
hi oh no okay well live stream's over
guys my cats are apparently outside so I need to go chase them they are uh
they're indoor cats because they're expensive and I don't want them to get
stolen and they're stupid and I don't want them to get dead so um thank you
guys for joining the live stream tonight I hope you enjoyed it we'll have the
archive up hopefully pretty soon and uh
good night everybody good night