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welcome to the live stream guys we've got a ton of cool topics tonight

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including uh I don't know what are our topics tonight I have a thing with

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topics but we've we've got some blackberry juice

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we've got um we've got one of the most incendiary things I think I've ever

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heard which is apparently some game developers are running around saying the

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PlayStation 4 will outperform PCS for years to come which app he doesn't

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understand anything about performance or hardware at all about anything although

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although uh it's funny because this was going to be one of our featured news

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items from the Linus Tech tips forum and I have to like the guy who who posted

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this one I give him props for posting in our news section because that's great

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and that is appreciated but he was a little bit sensationalist about his

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headline so I will uh we we'll clarify that once we once we move into that so

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why don't we start with something a little bit uh actually we've got a lot

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of crazy stuff to talk about we're going to talk about your Windows 8 downgrade

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uh we're going to talk about how I'm actually not going to be moving to

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Windows 8 on my personal rig I hope that

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uh Twitter managed to where the heck is the where's the uh the here it is I got

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it I got it I got it it's always behind you just always assume that it's behind

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you NOP I refuse to do that that is clearly Incorrect and a bad thing that I

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will not be doing at all always behind you oh did I leave the twitch stream on

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they came from behind yes oh yeah we'll be talking

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Starcraft Heart of the Swarm because we have an actual gamer on the show this

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week him they fit that in there by the way in the campaign there's a they came

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from behind yeah I was so stoked oh I love that so stoked when I heard it they

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also fit a Wilhelm scream into the trailer oh no way yeah a marine gets

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stepped on or I can't I can't do the willhelm

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scream hold on oh a no it's like

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impossible to recreate it's awesome though if you don't know what will Helm

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scream is YouTube it not now because it's in like every movie ever yeah

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especially Star Wars anything to do with Lucas Arts every Star War every Luca

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every Indiana Jones every Star Wars video video movie movie we make videos

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George Lucas makes movies or at least he did in the 70s and

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80s and you could argue he made they

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don't count those are videos oh that's okay I'm not going to get into

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original trilogy versus new Trilogy that would be an interesting live topic

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though uh we're going to talk batteries we're going to talk about oh okay so

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this is this okay here let's kick it off so the we've only got 20 oh okay the

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viewers are going up a little bit I'm just a little bit confused because I I'm

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never quite sure if the live stream starting now thing do you have to

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actually specifically announce on Twitch that you're

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streaming because I think there's like an announce button but I don't know how

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exactly that works you know what I'm not going to worry about it too much have no

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idea a few people said NOP or not really not really okay I got to get on this

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stream chat so let's uh let's get started with the belon link linkx

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acquisition is pretty much done so I got an email from my lyx contact today

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saying that his email is changing from his name at cisco.com to his name at I

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think I think it's going to be a linkis email now so Belin has come out and said

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okay we're keeping the two different uh streams of products separate so product

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development is still going to be separate um product uh branding is still

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going to be separate okay so when Cisco did the linkis acquisition in fact if I

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could find a Cisco I see I called it a Cisco router if I could find a linkis

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router lying around here somewhere I'd be able to show you they actually say Cisco right on the top yeah in

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fact that's what happened when lynis

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asked us to change cuz we originally oh

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yeah had our CES content branded Cisco because we couldn't find the linkis

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brand in use anywhere they probably already knew that

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it was coming soon so they were like oh yeah we saw your first video and we'd

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actually uh we'd really like you to change that to a linkis

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brand and stuff call taking that out someone

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complaining about it uh might have been audible no I heard it anyway so uh so

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yeah that's probably what happened there so anyway they're going to keep them separate and it's going to be pretty

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much business as usual for lynus as a

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separate good though I think so too because there's nothing wrong with the

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product no like we actually we did some

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really interesting testing with the EA was it the 42 or the 45 45 45 versus the

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N900 uh versus the N900 from WD and we

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found that without any optimization or tweaking of the qos at all it was just

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such a beast for very heavy Network like we did we did crazier stuff that we do

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on that Network like ever that was

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probably the hardest load we ever put on it and multiple Netflix streams a Skype

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call a game stream um and torrenting and

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torrenting yeah and we had like six or seven computers going so it was like

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crazy and it was like a lot of Torrance because we were pushing back and forth from school yeah so even things like the

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website are going to stay the same so you're not going to actually not I mean

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I don't think someone like Belin acquiring a very strong networking brand

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like linkis really wants to mess with it too much whereas with Cisco where they

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have that more premium branding I can understand why they'd want some trickle

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down effect and it's like oh so it should be worth more of a premium because we're we're Cisco and honestly

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like to most consumers they will probably have no

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idea that the sale and acquisition even occurred and that's probably a good

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thing yeah if they just nope nobody

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knows and that's exactly what we want yeah absolutely Ely I think not many

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people are watching yet so uh hopefully this has blasted on Twitter or Y there

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it is live stream starting now I see it so hopefully people uh tune in pretty

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quickly here because otherwise it's just us and our 400 most loyal viewers

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whatever man thank you guys for apparently planning your lives around

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being here to watch us live on our Friday night when we could otherwise be

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dating attractive women or or eating bacon or eating yeah slick I actually

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haven't even had one LT sandwich and

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it's not even going to be hot by the time I eat it it's already not yeah oh

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even mine was like room so so disappoint

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all right so I don't remember what hot Keys we use for um for switching scenes

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anymore is it like Shi fys is it f

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Keys oh yeah there we go yay Twitter okay so it's 2 a.m. in Argentina thank

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you for tuning in can you do live stream at a sensible time for us British

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European types we will change it eventually yeah the plan is to change it

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the plan is to change it probably time and probably day not probably day I

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don't want to do it on Friday nights I I don't think most people want to do it on Friday nights because most people like

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even if you're not going out you're probably wanting to game with your buds

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so like I want to game with my buds I'm

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pretty sure they want to game with their buds yeah I'm pretty sure they want to game with their buds too someone's

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asking uh where happened to the Acer laptop oh it's still here slicks on my

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old MSI um like sort of gaming ready

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model that I try not to use cuz man it's heavy but it's kind of awesome because

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it's like quad core and stuff but uh there we go let's go ahead and go back

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to our can you please do a video on the

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his 7970 GHz Edition 3 gig what do you

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think of this GPU I think it's a 7970 GHz Edition and I think it has 3 gigs of

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RAM and I think his put their sticker on it that's what I think bam does it were

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you that Google has control over your job with AdSense have you thought of

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setting a paid subscription for your site there is no way we are implementing

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any kind of paid subscription for our content bye-bye every single viewer we

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have yeah I mean we love you guys and we know that you love us too but we're

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pretty sure that we we're all like nope

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premium content $5 monthly subscription you guys are going to be like yeah I'll

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just go watch someone else's unboxing video so um I mean we think we make good

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content and all that good stuff but for us I mean our value ad that will allow

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us to no longer give Google complete control over our livelihoods is our

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audience and if we alienate the audience then like we suck and on that note a

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sponsors and not relying on Google forever that's a big part of the reason

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like sponsors that we trust that we actually use so if you go you know line

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time and I've been using it for years not because because Intel sponsoring

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Tech tips at the same time we're not hating on AMD and at the same time we're

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not hating on AMD in fact AMD particularly on the GPU side has been

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getting a lot of love Lately from us check out the what was the most recent

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one we did I think I'm of what's released okay Battlefield 3 yeah they

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won Battlefield 3 they won I think they've won every single GPU Showdown so

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far I think they won all of them and then like tied one or something yeah I

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think uh Battlefield 3 was more more of a tie and then Crisis 3 Ste red but

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still the top two spots in Battlefield 3 if you look at the overall chart which

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is poked in at the End by a little bit cuz there isn't really a good vocal

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segue for me to Overlay the overall chart but it is there so if you guys are

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watching the Battlefield 3 video go somewhere near the end and it just kind

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of goes hello and then leaves after a little while but check it out that's

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like the whole like all the cards on one big chart you can see the top two spots

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are actually MD cards there you go um although we have a new sponsor so Cooler

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Master particularly CM Storm game peripherals which I think both you and I

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have been pretty raw raw raw about same

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Factory is filco like you can't really that's all you really need to know you

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can't even go that wrong I've got a quickfire TK upstairs that I use like

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whenever whenever your ducky was dead whenever my ducky was dead yeah or when

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I was swapping the key caps out of my ducky or like I bring it home if I go to

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my parents host for weekend easier to travel with like it's yeah it's nice and

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like it's pretty ruged too so cooler Master's on board now which we're really

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excited about and in addition to that we also just signed with twitch.tv as a

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YouTube Network so we won't have to rely on Google's ad sales anymore so twitch

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is actually going to be responsible for filling our videos the like the regular

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YouTube pre-rolls with hopefully more relevant ads which I think is important

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um as well as hopefully you know not making us rely strictly on Google which

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I mean even now we rely on Google in huge ways just for the infrastructure uh

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delivering the videos to you guys they make all kinds of mistakes that honestly

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cost us a lot of money and a lot of headache um not not delivering our

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videos to our subscribers yeah subscription box I have um my personal

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YouTube account gets like less than a quarter of the lion Tech tips uploads

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I'm like what I should be getting all of

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these very frustrating I mean there's that there's the fact that uh YouTube

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screws up on things like we had a set to

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private and it went public so we we accidentally broke embargo on the GTX

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Titan launch which was not cool and they've had I mean that's been broken

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for months at a time in the past to the point where it's just kind

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of ridiculous so uh so yeah we still rely on them in a big way but we're not

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going to rely on them for our livelihoods which is sort of exciting

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well not entirely for our livelihoods we'll still rely on them yeah if anyone

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from Google's watching we'd still love you please don't shut off our Channel

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Don't Close Our Channel yes we like our Channel um okay so let's talk Galaxy S4

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actually you know what no let's go to let's go to Twitter for for a little bit of Q&A here let's see what you guys have

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to say about the show so far I'm just going to go ahead sorry if people notice

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that I'm looking down a lot I'm trying to get on Twitch but I can't log into my

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account so I'm oh I'm on Twitch over here yeah but I want to be able to

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monitor it here yeah okay we should just be monitoring it we should be monitoring

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the chat at all s because you guys notice when anything's wrong right away

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which is good uh Johnny blae says you should try the new BlackBerry Zed 10

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when you're done with the HTC1 I would love to if anyone from Blackberry is

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watching we'd love to hear from you we'd love to have an opportunity to try it

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out I mean it's funny because we've said

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that enough times like kind of joking but then there was that guy from Belle

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who watched and we called them we said that their customer support with butt

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heads so he called us and fixed it like fixed everything everything's perfect

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now and then um we called though rul sud

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y formerly a voodoo who apparently left a comment on our video um because we

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said that we weren't sure if any of the solid gold cases is sold yes and he was

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like yes we sold at least one $50,000 for that gold case which is just

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unbelievable um and you know what's what uh I checked it is him I had Josh follow

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up with him and find out if it was actually him and it actually was Raul if

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you're wondering where that comment came from on YouTube you can just set whatever name you want

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we hadama com I'm like I'm

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pretty prry has uh some other videos to

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watch that are not related to technology and whatnot pretty sure if he wanted a

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really good computer he would just kind of have a really good computer do you think the 7970 is better for Battlefield

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3 Call of Duty and Tomb Raider you know what we have to do Tomb Raider yeah I

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want to wait I want to wait till driver optim optimization I don't want to do

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too many beta drivers anymore because all the weird stuff that in a couple

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weeks so what we're going to do is we're going to wait till AMD and NVIDIA both

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drop pretty good driver optimization revisions okay then I'll run all the

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test test benches for that bench benchmarks not test benches yeah um run

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all run it on all the test benches every test bench we have U I'll run all the

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benchmarks for that and then we'll release a video on that right away and then you'll have your BF3 and Tomb

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Raider did he mention another game uh Battlefield 3 Cod and Tomb Raider so I

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mean Cod runs on like an atar I wouldn't worry about it man you're probably fine

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yeah it's probably okay just don't stress don't stress Jason it's cool all

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right speaking of which someone asked for a shout out to a Jason but a different Jason slick could you tell us

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about your personal rig maybe we'll cover that when we talk about your Windows 8 downgrade right someone asks

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is Razer really that bad because from what I hear in the Internet it's the

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worst branding in the world no I don't think that's true at all I mean like any

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company not every product is perfect but I mean the um orb weaver is by far the

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best game pad that we've ever encountered uh what was the name of that

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uh that controller the Sabertooth the one we saw

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at CES it's not tournament ready or is it tournament ready and the other one's

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not tournament ready oh that I don't remember it's either the previous razor

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the or Xbox controll I think it's no orca's a headset I know the one you Anza

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onza yeah um it's I can't remember if it was the Anza or the new saber tooth well

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the new one has those button on the bottom but they're removable are they

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not oh no and they're not macro ready right so the new one is tourament ready

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one right cuz you can't rebind all the buttons all over the place yeah so I

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mean and the build quality of it was outstanding especially compared to the

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to the older one which wasn't as good I mean that black widow ultimate is a very

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solid mechanical keyboard I mean guys I

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guess oh yeah and the blade the blade is

00:17:24.760 --> 00:17:30.440
probably right up there with guys like apple in terms of the build quality of

00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:38.600
that notebook All I'm gonna say I've owned two razor leosa or

00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:40.360
leus neither of them work okay so I

00:17:38.600 --> 00:17:43.799
think it's a mi mixed bag when you have people that have a bad experience then

00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:49.440
they're much more likely to talk about that than a good experience that's also

00:17:46.080 --> 00:17:51.480
very true and talking from my NC

00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:56.240
experience where I know what the sales numbers look like I can tell you right

00:17:53.280 --> 00:18:00.240
now if you see five complaints about Razer compared to some other gaming

00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:06.440
brand it might have something to do with the fact that they're selling five times

00:18:02.520 --> 00:18:08.799
more than them or more right so that's

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definitely a very valid and very large point I mean it was like that with ocz

00:18:10.360 --> 00:18:16.360
and ssds for the longest time where people like all the complaints I see

00:18:13.840 --> 00:18:21.679
about ssds are ocz well yeah all the ssds that are selling are ocz so what do

00:18:18.159 --> 00:18:24.080
you want me to say like yeah whatever

00:18:21.679 --> 00:18:26.919
man uh okay so let's go back I'm working on a prodigy build what does your wife

00:18:25.679 --> 00:18:33.159
think about you using the living room as a workshop for your personal rake I actually am not anymore my personal rig

00:18:30.159 --> 00:18:35.400
is almost done I'm working on a prodigy

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build I thought you finished well I still have to my uh the power adapter I

00:18:37.679 --> 00:18:43.280
made myself I made a left angle power adapter for my optical drive but I used

00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:47.640
wires that were too thin and they didn't bite into the thing enough so I have to

00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:52.440
replace that I have to fix the extension wire I was using for my four fans on the

00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:57.440
bottom cuz it like broke or something decrep it somehow I have to remount the

00:18:55.000 --> 00:19:00.799
top LED strip because the included adhesive with the phobias is not holding

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it in place so I'm going to use my double-sided velcro yeah and then I have

00:19:02.840 --> 00:19:09.400
to figure out how to bleed that Bloody T Virus so pretty close was it not it's

00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:13.760
getting there but I'm thinking if I stick like something in there and just kind of swirl it around that might help

00:19:12.679 --> 00:19:18.880
you can do that then you got to take those caps off and that's not always the easiest no no it's easy with the fill

00:19:17.120 --> 00:19:23.880
Port yeah you can just stick it through the fill Port I think it should be would

00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:25.799
you get tied up in the uh maybe in the

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Helix I don't know I haven't tried yet either way if you want to do shake this

00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:33.840
is like totally has nothing to do with the stream I don't want to shake the computer but if you want to do Shake we

00:19:32.159 --> 00:19:38.039
can lift it up and I can stabilize it you can shake oh I shudder to think

00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:41.159
because there's enough things that just are broken enough about it um we're not

00:19:39.840 --> 00:19:45.000
going to talk about bit torrent on the show we like to keep things clean but

00:19:43.360 --> 00:19:50.200
feel free to talk about bit torrant somewhere else uh thoughts on El joining

00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:54.880
the new egg crew I think it's I think it's a huge benefit for the new egg TV

00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:58.919
guys I mean he brings with him an enormous audience yeah he's he's got his

00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:04.200
crew basically like he's got all the guys that are going to follow him which is he's been around forever I mean you

00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:09.039
look at how quickly Tech of Tomorrow grew when he departed from motherboards

00:20:06.760 --> 00:20:13.200
org and channel pro it's going to be interesting departing from

00:20:10.679 --> 00:20:16.520
motherboards.org channelpro going to check of tomorrow which he was already

00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:21.960
kind of he was already kind of running on his own but like boosting it up and

00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.200
then ditch boost up he may I I don't

00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:28.000
know what his plan is I haven't talked to him he may maintain it because I know

00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:31.520
Kyle and Paul at least have their own channels do awesome sauce news and

00:20:30.280 --> 00:20:39.320
Paul's Hardware if you guys want to check them out Paul did a really good video review of the leonitis 30in IPS uh

00:20:37.120 --> 00:20:43.559
monitor that's available for like 600 700 bucks on eBay yeah um so guys check

00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:48.320
out his video of that if you're looking at a large format display which it

00:20:45.120 --> 00:20:50.520
happens I am because mine's broken

00:20:48.320 --> 00:20:54.440
now if you want the story on that because he probably doesn't want to

00:20:51.600 --> 00:20:58.240
reiterate it personal build personal rig update 15 has the it's pretty much the

00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:04.480
most depressing video I think either of us have ever filmed

00:21:01.320 --> 00:21:06.799
yeah yeah oh spring break is it spring

00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:10.200
break yes it's been so long since I've been in school I don't even think about

00:21:08.159 --> 00:21:13.240
it anymore maybe that's why no one's watching Linus please enable 240p

00:21:12.320 --> 00:21:18.039
viewing option I have no idea how to enable or

00:21:16.600 --> 00:21:22.159
disable different viewing options I think that's handled by twitch we stream

00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:25.159
at 1080p but I believe you can downscale it to whatever you want yeah I have no

00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:31.039
idea how to do that no

00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:33.279
idea um all right so let's move into our

00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:38.000
next discussion topic should we just let's just let's just hit the Galaxy S4

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now shall we boom so we cheated a little bit in our teaser video for the live

00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:45.200
stream where we said we had a Galaxy S4

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but actually we don't this is just a Galaxy S3 which should give you guys

00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:55.520
some idea of how different we think the S4 is from the S3 if you look at the

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front of the S4 the camera and these two

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little LEDs go slightly more vertical

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and this little indicator LED is now visible just like these ones no goes

00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:10.039
slight more hold on slow down slow down you're blowing my mind man it's visible

00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:14.080
you can see it's got the black ring just like the other ones it goes slightly

00:22:11.679 --> 00:22:20.080
more vertical and it comes all the way over here to go right beside the speaker

00:22:17.600 --> 00:22:23.279
no way hold on beside the speaker fan freaking tastic Game Changer I don't

00:22:21.679 --> 00:22:27.520
even know who could have possibly thought about that the button is like

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slightly more squared off hold on there's a

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button one button one button you can't

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put more than one button okay although with that said the HTC1 does not have a

00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.880
button I don't know if you noticed that I did there is no middle button there's

00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:46.880
an HTC I'm not sure what to think because

00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:51.840
you I you double tap home to get to your recent apps which is fine which is fine

00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:55.120
I'm okay with a double tap it's fast and the haptic feedback on this thing is

00:22:53.320 --> 00:23:00.840
outstanding okay holy crap let's stay focused on S4 focused on S4 okay okay

00:22:58.520 --> 00:23:05.440
physical changes carry on take it off and show what the inside different is

00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:13.440
okay so here I'll hold this one so the back from here all the way up to there

00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:14.679
is pretty much the same okay and then

00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:18.760
the flashlight Goes Down Under the camera

00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:24.200
and this disappears okay and that is innovation

00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:27.320
and it's do you have the specs up on your computer I can get it up in a

00:23:25.919 --> 00:23:31.840
moment get the full specs up cuz I'm going to start I'm going to talk about

00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:39.720
sort of the the philosophy behind what might have driven Samsung to go with a a

00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:41.159
very similar to Galaxy S3 design so no

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matter how much I rag on it it does kind of make sense yeah it kind of makes sense okay cuz when you looked at Galaxy

00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:50.919
1 honestly it wasn't a great phone no my

00:23:47.600 --> 00:23:51.679
wife has one it has not really served

00:23:50.919 --> 00:23:56.159
her well no not I'm not going to rag on them

00:23:54.799 --> 00:24:03.000
or anything but they knew it wasn't great Galaxy S2 came out pretty quick

00:23:59.159 --> 00:24:07.200
and revamped everything it went Amed it

00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:08.960
went uh way faster way faster it had a

00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:13.799
way better screen it was just better in every possible way and they completely

00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:17.600
reinvented it with the Galaxy S2 then Galaxy S3 came along and went okay we're

00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:21.200
going to turn every take everything that was good about the S2 and keep it we're

00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:26.159
going to go with a shape that's much nicer to hold did the screen get bigger

00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:29.799
I don't remember I think so I think it did I can't I can't remember Galaxy S2

00:24:28.080 --> 00:24:33.840
again though pretty sure it did didn't last that long and was replaced by a

00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:39.600
phone that was significantly better in every possible way and replaced it now

00:24:36.840 --> 00:24:44.880
Galaxy S3 hung around with us for a long time I mean this launched we did a video

00:24:42.840 --> 00:24:51.159
back around uh around launch so that's going to give me some idea of when it

00:24:47.159 --> 00:24:54.480
was but ncixcom

00:24:51.159 --> 00:24:57.080
Galaxy someone's probably already uh oh

00:24:54.480 --> 00:25:02.559
Galaxy video card eight months ago so so this launched almost a year ago like 9

00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:07.039
10 months ago and here we are finally

00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:08.600
Samsung's replacing it with the S4 which

00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:12.399
is similar but remember this time they're

00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:17.559
not replacing a phone that was fundamentally flawed in any way they're

00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:19.520
replacing a phone that was that did

00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:25.159
really well the number one selling smartphone yeah if you're

00:25:22.360 --> 00:25:29.200
Samsung do you reinvent the wheel when the wheels spinning really

00:25:27.600 --> 00:25:33.360
good one thing thing I brought up when we were origin talking this up yeah go

00:25:31.159 --> 00:25:38.399
ahead um um sorry that was funny uh we were in

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:43.080
the car talking about it and I was like okay well if it's really similar form

00:25:40.120 --> 00:25:48.640
factor and just like awesome sauce specs compared to before why don't they take

00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:51.000
the Apple approach and just call it like

00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:58.960
not an S because it's already s because of Samsung but like the Samsung GS X

00:25:56.360 --> 00:26:02.960
right GS 3x or something like add another thing to the end because they're

00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:06.919
not changing not really really changing the form factor of the phone not

00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:10.520
changing stuff like that and then you I mean that's something apples gets away

00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:16.360
with though because they've been doing it for so long yeah I mean you know what

00:26:12.840 --> 00:26:18.880
an s means an s means an evolutionary

00:26:16.360 --> 00:26:22.559
change um I mean they've done this with iPad as well where they don't even

00:26:20.520 --> 00:26:27.880
Rebrand the damn thing anymore no they just go iPad IP with retina display so

00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:32.600
you when you buy an iPad you're buying an IP ad unless it's an iPad 2 so there

00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:36.799
was iPad iPad 2 and iPad yeah with Retina and I I mean maybe something like

00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:41.440
that would have been appropriate here as a Galaxy S3 Uber Edition or like

00:26:39.760 --> 00:26:44.520
whatever the brand like better branding than that but um but then branding

00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:49.279
consolidation is a really really big deal and that brings this into play okay

00:26:47.919 --> 00:26:53.960
let's talk about that later hold on I want to talk specs on this first so okay

00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:58.520
okay so Samsung's either going to have um a what is it Snapdragon S600 is it

00:26:56.840 --> 00:27:04.640
called S600 something something Snapdragon 600 something or other um so

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:08.120
that's going to be a 1.9 GHz quad core

00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:11.559
which is pretty similar to the 1.7 GHz

00:27:08.120 --> 00:27:13.240
uh uh Snapdragon 600 that's in the HTC1

00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:17.960
a little bit faster although it has a beier battery 2600 milliamp hours

00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:22.360
compared to 2300 or 2350 or something like that um but there's going to be

00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:26.840
another version that's an octacore exus or whatever they call their thing uh

00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:32.480
that's an octacore that has 4 A7 cores and 4 a15 cores now would go as far as

00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:34.600
to say if their intention is to use

00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:39.480
those four cores either for power saving or performance it's still kind of a quad

00:27:37.320 --> 00:27:43.840
core can NVIDIA get away with calling Tegra 3 a five core cuz they kind of

00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:47.360
tried it at first and then they backed off on it cuz they have that that low

00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:52.960
power core and then the four performance on is that exactly how it's supposed to work switching for power saving my

00:27:51.159 --> 00:27:59.240
understanding is that's how the octacore is supposed to work cuz come on you're not going to benefit from an octacore

00:27:56.360 --> 00:28:03.559
like four equal cores and the Octor is clocked at 1.6 GHz so it's going to vary

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:08.120
depending on region what spec you get so the HTC1 by contrast you're going to get

00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:11.840
the same spec regardless of region but there's six different versions

00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:16.279
supporting different bands for different regions that makes sense but you get the

00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:20.519
same CPU regardless um what else have they changed spec-wise so they've added

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:23.960
so it's a 5 in 1080P I keep holding this because for all intents ofp I'll hold

00:28:22.120 --> 00:28:30.480
this far enough away that you can't tell uh it's a 5 in 1080P display Amed with

00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:34.880
the room rumors were that the Amed uh production line wasn't ready yet and it

00:28:32.120 --> 00:28:39.000
was going to be LCD but very exciting so you're going to get those deep deep rich

00:28:36.840 --> 00:28:43.360
blacks power savings assuming you're not looking at really bright stuff all the

00:28:40.399 --> 00:28:48.760
time that's really exciting um it's going to come with 4.2.2 Jelly Bean

00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:53.760
ridiculous 12 megapixel camera 13 13 yeah 13 megapixel camera with two on the

00:28:51.080 --> 00:28:56.399
front Cam and that leads us to another sort of comparison point between the

00:28:55.399 --> 00:28:59.720
we're not even going to be able to talk about the one cuz we're blending it here

00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:05.799
so HTC went for a bold departure from what

00:29:03.360 --> 00:29:10.240
everyone very bold instead of a high megapixel rear camera they have a 4

00:29:07.760 --> 00:29:15.159
megapixel rear camera hold on I'm G let that snc in for a moment there and you

00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:19.679
know what's kind of stupid is I had all my notes for the

00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:23.799
HTC um unboxing that we did earlier deleted them and I deleted them as we

00:29:21.320 --> 00:29:28.720
went but you for undo I think I've got it they're calling it Ultra pixel Ultra

00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:34.440
pixel camera sensor so this is is a 4 megapixel 3 in sensor with an f2.0 lens

00:29:31.840 --> 00:29:38.200
and Optical image stabilization that they're saying because of the larger

00:29:36.159 --> 00:29:42.799
pixels and the large sensors is actually able to capture more light and more

00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:47.640
detail even though the resolution that will appear when you right click

00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:48.919
properties resolution is actually lower

00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:53.600
and you were dinking around with it a little bit in the car on the way back and it looks like and also based on

00:29:52.360 --> 00:29:57.679
reviews that we're seeing of the phone that might be true it looks really good

00:29:55.600 --> 00:30:02.200
more megapixels may not be the solution so anyway Samsung has a 13 megapixel

00:30:00.159 --> 00:30:06.679
camera on this bad boy um it's available on a variety of

00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:11.399
different internal storage configurations and it does have a micro

00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:15.640
SD slot which the one does not that to me is so confusing the way HTC continues

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:20.320
to not Implement micro SD in their high-end phones I personally never

00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:25.279
actually filled my iPhone 416 gig and you don't like but not everyone's like

00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:28.919
me some people want more storage there's a spot like they could have put spot

00:30:27.080 --> 00:30:32.360
right on the bottom there put a Micro SD slot there for crying out loud guys like

00:30:30.600 --> 00:30:38.320
you can't take off the back okay you can't replace the battery okay okay make

00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:42.320
an external plugin for it's a really small chip with that said the one only

00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.960
comes in 32 gig and 64 gig configurations going to be big so I

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:51.200
would never manage to fill 30 I know that I actually will both of us won't I

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:55.159
stream video to myself over my data plan I have a pretty generous data plan so I

00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:58.000
don't worry about it too much okay what else they got oh yeah so there you can

00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:03.240
interact with the touch screen without quite touching it although I don't know how valuable that is uh it apparently

00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:06.760
pauses video If You Look Away although their camera based eye tracking features

00:31:05.360 --> 00:31:13.799
have never necessarily worked for everyone so I don't know about that uh s

00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:18.200
Travel Trip Advisor oh they're adding some of the

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:22.360
cool features from the Galaxy camera which we shot an NC Tech tips of today

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:26.480
and is actually really cool yeah it's actually pretty awesome I just wish it

00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:31.120
had a phone in it yeah okay we were talking about this the galaxy C camera

00:31:28.159 --> 00:31:37.440
is running Android yes and Android Jelly Bean and we were thinking if you just

00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:41.039
add like a speaker and a mic yeah it

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.360
supports it supports um it supports data

00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:46.919
it supports data already with a micro SIM yeah yeah so if you're going to have

00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:49.799
a plan for the stupid thing and you don't actually and and if you're one of

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:55.240
the I mean let's face it there are people out there who don't care about a

00:31:52.519 --> 00:32:00.039
thin phone these people exist and the Galaxy camera is not that thick like

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:03.240
it's probably if I took look at all the Samsung product placement here Samsung

00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.559
ssds like if you took sort of a phone and a couple ssds it's kind of like that

00:32:05.639 --> 00:32:11.600
without the lens sticking out expand your storage today strap an SSD to your

00:32:09.600 --> 00:32:14.960
phone I might be the kind of person who would actually say you know what for the

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:19.440
sake of having an awesome camera and video camera as a

00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:23.039
vlogger maybe I don't care about a slim phone anymore if I'm going somewhere

00:32:20.919 --> 00:32:27.679
I've got my backpack that's right would you actually mind putting your phone SL

00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:32.880
camera in like a drink pouch or something on your

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:36.760
backpack you can play games on it it would be cool if it had the

00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:41.559
functionality so that I could bounce my sim right or just get you can get a

00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.880
supplementary Sim yeah or do something like that something like that if I could

00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:48.639
share the plan that would be awesome like a self family plan for your camera

00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.360
and your phone and your tablet or something and your notebook or something

00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.519
like that yeah because there's sometimes that I'm going to go and I don't have my

00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.399
bag cuz that's probably where we're headed and I see no reason why I

00:32:57.919 --> 00:33:04.200
shouldn't be able to take a phone call on my notebook if I feel like it yeah or

00:33:01.840 --> 00:33:07.159
on my camera if I feel like it why not and while everyone's talking about

00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:12.480
everything getting smaller and stuff and like phones Getting Thinner cameras like

00:33:10.399 --> 00:33:16.200
you need the sensor you need the lenses you need the distance you have to have

00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:21.039
that distance while neither of us are actually experts on cameras we know

00:33:18.760 --> 00:33:25.480
basic physics we know Diesel and we know Diesel and we knew this before we knew

00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:30.720
dies yes that's true and making the pixels small enough to the point where

00:33:28.120 --> 00:33:35.360
like uh like the the the I forget what it's called whatever this I don't know

00:33:33.360 --> 00:33:39.320
light light wavelengths yeah where the light wavelength actually is not even

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:43.120
going to be able to hit yeah cuz if pixel's too small you're trying to go

00:33:40.760 --> 00:33:47.360
into a box this big with wavelengths like this you're just oversampling so so

00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:50.840
yeah that's that's an exciting departure what else we got from Samsung's phone so

00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:55.440
they amped up the battery life they amped up the GPU in a big way much more

00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:59.360
powerful should be much more competitive uh Samsung nox will be supported so if

00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:04.480
you want to bring own device BYOD is a big Trend right now um so you'll have

00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:09.639
like a safety spot vers like where your your uh your your work can um sort of

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:13.839
admit it for you and you can DPN and then you'll have like a consumer one

00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:18.040
where your Facebook pictures aren't not going to be accessible to your office or

00:34:15.399 --> 00:34:22.720
anything like that however Blackberry is moving their secure workstation over to

00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:27.760
iOS and Android or secure workspace yeah secure workspace so maybe nox is coming

00:34:25.879 --> 00:34:31.599
along at a time when it may not even even end up mattering although this is

00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:36.480
interesting because in my opinion if Blackberry did this two maybe three

00:34:34.520 --> 00:34:42.320
years ago I think they would be in a way better position because blackberry's

00:34:38.359 --> 00:34:43.919
whole thing is workplace yep like it's

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:47.800
it's always been like they they are the business phone or at least they were

00:34:45.919 --> 00:34:50.720
they were that's the problem a lot of people started moving their Blackberry

00:34:49.359 --> 00:34:54.359
servers out and their Blackberry security and all that kind of stuff because people weren't using

00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:58.240
blackberries anymore if Blackberry rolled this out so that people all

00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:02.680
businesses kept their Blackberry infrastructure so your theory is that

00:35:00.680 --> 00:35:08.280
then when Blackberry got competitive on Hardware again again they'd be instantly

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:13.720
easier to reintegrate everywhere right whereas if there's an infrastructure

00:35:10.520 --> 00:35:16.040
change yeah because now people is a very

00:35:13.720 --> 00:35:19.119
competitive phone oh yeah for sure um now people that ditched businesses that

00:35:17.720 --> 00:35:23.839
ditched are going to have to if they want to roll out blackberries again go

00:35:21.359 --> 00:35:27.359
back again and doing another change is going to be hard to push through

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:31.880
management and you look at how long iOS and Android were Superior to blackberry

00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:37.400
and yet how long it took businesses to move away from Blackberry because it was

00:35:33.680 --> 00:35:40.119
so good like how how how Superior you

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:46.640
have to be to drive someone to your solution versus how mediocre you can be

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:48.280
and Coast on it yeah it's ridiculous and

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:51.319
like at the same time it's not battle but I'm kind of rooting for them yeah I

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:55.200
want Blackberry to live I really want Blackberry live the Z 10's an awesome

00:35:53.160 --> 00:36:00.400
phone I want to actually use one it's super light it's kind of like iPhone 5

00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:03.200
light like just super I like

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:09.400
uh along those lines the S4 is getting lighter than the S3 and the HTC1 has

00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:12.640
some heft to it with its like sexy uh

00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:15.520
aluminum 200 minutes on a machine uh

00:36:12.640 --> 00:36:20.240
shell that is just well it's like very premium compared to this was an

00:36:18.200 --> 00:36:24.280
interesting one quick thing to add Blackberry I think if they still like

00:36:22.680 --> 00:36:27.720
just to bounce back on this again if they still had their servers in place so

00:36:26.359 --> 00:36:31.400
if they gave out their software what they could have done with the Z 10

00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:36.480
release is say look now we have another awesome phone with some added features

00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:40.319
for Blackberry secure workspace so they could have differentiated and been a

00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:46.640
been a standardized platform which would have driven more sales anyways continue

00:36:43.240 --> 00:36:48.200
right uh okay what else we got here uh S

00:36:46.640 --> 00:36:52.040
Voice blah blah blah have we missed anything oh it has wireless wireless AC

00:36:50.200 --> 00:36:56.119
although I have no idea what performance is going to be like because based on our

00:36:53.400 --> 00:37:00.160
experience with like a USB AC adapter it probably won't be any different from in

00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:05.480
it's that's my guess and like power power hungry I mean the actual full

00:37:03.359 --> 00:37:09.839
performance AC Solutions we run into have heat sinks as big as a phone on

00:37:07.319 --> 00:37:14.920
them a little bit bigger actually yeah so uh we don't have it here do we

00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:18.240
available 1632 or 64 gigs with plus the

00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:20.480
micro SD slot and I think that's pretty

00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:26.240
much it so let's wrap up with some of the highlights of the HTC1 so this has

00:37:22.680 --> 00:37:28.319
got the same uh the same Snapdragon 600

00:37:26.240 --> 00:37:34.760
processor in it 2 gigs of RAM just like the S4 it's got that Ultra pixel camera

00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:39.079
it's got the ability to take crap zo zo

00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:41.440
Z zois is that zo or zo Z Zoe so it's a

00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:46.640
four to five still frames at a time while recording 1080p video which is

00:37:43.839 --> 00:37:51.280
very cool I think yeah and the idea is that you'll have kind of like little

00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.839
talking talking Snippets uh like motion

00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:56.520
Snippets kind of like uh like the newspapers and the portraits in Harry

00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:59.920
Potter daily profit yeah like in the daily profit and I think it's it's

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:03.280
either going to be really neat or it's going to be kind of gimmicky and I won't

00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:07.119
end up using it but I actually don't know it's not one of those things like

00:38:05.200 --> 00:38:10.400
um where you you look at it and you're just like ah skip through this stuff

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:15.119
tell me the spec of this stupid thing because I don't care about these gimmicky features so I'm actually

00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:20.560
willing to give that a shot um boom sound is a huge Innovation and that's

00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:25.079
something that Samsung could have done front-facing speakers come on guys why

00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:29.560
did this take so long every tablet and every smartphone from now on should have

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:33.400
front-facing speakers you can write me down as having said that because it

00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:39.960
matters if you actually expect this to be a Content consumption device music

00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.960
movies games all of them benefit from front-facing speakers because cupping

00:38:41.640 --> 00:38:47.839
your hand around the back of a phone to hear it properly is stupid and all the

00:38:45.560 --> 00:38:50.720
complaints I get from people and it's funny I get a lot of complaints about

00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:54.240
the audio levels being too low which is why we boosted them up tonight uh people

00:38:52.920 --> 00:39:00.119
are like oh I can't hear it because I'm on my phone and I'm like oh it's because

00:38:57.040 --> 00:39:01.640
of your stupid crappy Ultrabook or phone

00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.560
speaker that doesn't actually go loud enough and people who reply to those

00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:08.400
people and say oh just turn your volume up they don't understand you guys are on

00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:11.640
a phone not on like a desktop computer where you can just crank it up so we're

00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.440
trying to get that addressed in recent videos and I hope we've done a pretty

00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:19.319
good job of that so uh there's that they have an infrared emitter and uh receiver

00:39:18.040 --> 00:39:26.599
built into the power button which I think is a really elegant way to do that so you can use it as a as a universal

00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:30.920
remote and of course I mean the chassis just outstanding it's really easy to

00:39:28.200 --> 00:39:35.480
hold in spite of the fact that it is 4.7 in and I do have small hands uh it goes

00:39:33.560 --> 00:39:39.480
almost Ed to Edge and it is 1080p just like the S4 so this is

00:39:37.160 --> 00:39:44.079
basically I guess it's also not out yet but I think it's going to be out first

00:39:41.359 --> 00:39:47.800
it's basically like a higher end S4 and then slightly lower clocks much better

00:39:46.240 --> 00:39:53.960
build quality right talking about release dates um Samsung S4 is I believe

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:59.560
April 20th um so coming soon exciting about a

00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:02.400
month August no it is August it is no that's nope that's something completely

00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:07.760
different okay so I don't know the release dates oh that was Saints Row

00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:10.400
four by the way we don't know so forget

00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:13.560
it we have no idea okay so the last bit about phones we're not going to talk

00:40:11.560 --> 00:40:18.920
about phones anymore after this I don't think is that HTC's CMO actually came

00:40:17.160 --> 00:40:24.520
out I don't think I told you this yet fight fight in words came out and said

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:27.880
Samsung's Galaxy S4 is quote unquote more of the

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:32.480
same whoa looking to grab some headlines there hey

00:40:30.200 --> 00:40:36.240
boss that might be a good tactic for them right now that might be the way to

00:40:34.040 --> 00:40:41.000
form of marketing sort of ride on the coattails of the Samsung marketing

00:40:38.520 --> 00:40:44.720
engine which exists now for the mobile products so okay last thing last thing

00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:49.160
actual last thing so guys for those of you who have been asking me to do an I

00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:54.520
switched for Android I am doing it I'm going to be using the HTC1 as my Android

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.880
weapon of choice I'm done with Windows Phone 8 we'll be giving away the 8S soon

00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:05.520
actually as well as a bunch of phones on the Forum uh soon uh hopefully next week I

00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:09.119
guess think we can launch it it depends let's try and lach we're going we're

00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:11.319
going to try and launch it next week um but yeah I'm going to do an Android eye

00:41:10.359 --> 00:41:15.520
switch and if there's anyone from Blackberry watching please let me know and I'd love to do a Blackberry I

00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:20.560
switched after that so I can give you guys that noobs perspective I've used

00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:25.119
Android pretty extensively on tablet but I haven't used it much on a phone so

00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:27.680
this should be this should be fun uh why don't we do a little bit of Twitter and

00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:33.520
then let's move into your down unless you had something you really wanted to do uh no but considering we peeped at it

00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:39.079
a second ago Saints Row 4 is announced I think this is one of if not the one of

00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:42.880
the first games to be announced since the

00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:47.880
THQ since THQ was dissolved people are asking me to do an os10 I switched yeah

00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:53.000
Over My Dead Body you can quote me on that too yeah seriously um Saints R 4

00:41:50.720 --> 00:41:58.079
release date August 20th in the states August 23rd in Europe oh awesome so I I

00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:03.000
think that's the first game that has been announced since the since THQ was

00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:08.480
dissolved I might be wrong so don't quote me on that but okay cool

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.800
yeah um blah blah blah blah blah blah

00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:15.119
like first game announced that was a part of THQ

00:42:12.040 --> 00:42:17.119
obviously can neither of you guys

00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:21.480
recommend that what's that CM Storm Mouse we use at the

00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:24.800
office spawn oh it's a spawn okay sorry I we haven't tried the Sentinel Advance

00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.680
2 Mouse but the spawn is actually better way better than I thought it was nice

00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:30.640
for really nice for claw yeah really nice claw tracks well tracks on a

00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:38.720
variety of surfaces we've used it extensively now cuz it's hooked up to our display computer in the ncx tech tip

00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:40.079
studio so um yeah let's move into I

00:42:38.720 --> 00:42:45.800
don't see anything that interesting on Twitter so uh let's move on to your

00:42:43.240 --> 00:42:48.960
downgrade so why don't you start can I actually just steal that sandwich from

00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:53.920
you and then you can make a new one and I'm going to take a couple bites while you talk about your experience with

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:58.520
Windows 8 I'd like you to cover it from a number of different angles I actually

00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:01.760
um Swit to my laptop just throw it on top

00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:07.880
of there and I'm going to go now down on your sandwich here how long using for it

00:43:04.319 --> 00:43:09.319
each how long using it for each yeah in

00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.440
like each of those different scenarios so you used it on Notebook desktop and

00:43:11.160 --> 00:43:17.880
you haven't really spent much time with it on touch but

00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:19.960
Laptop touch okay I've spent basically a

00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:24.079
completely negligible amount start with why you started on Windows 8 okay I

00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:27.839
started on Windows 8 because uh my laptop was a development laptop and I

00:43:25.839 --> 00:43:32.440
got Windows 8 from school so I was like Hey might as well do it so I started

00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:37.760
with the developer preview um it was for a laptop though and all I really did on

00:43:34.839 --> 00:43:42.800
that laptop was basic coding which is invi inside an environment so Windows 8

00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:49.319
isn't really going to mess with that that much and then I was exporting that and testing it on other machines not my

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:51.599
own machine um and

00:43:49.319 --> 00:43:55.920
then basic web browsing like I wasn't doing very much with that laptop at all

00:43:54.240 --> 00:43:59.119
so didn't really get tons of usage out of that and that was not a touch screen

00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:03.000
laptop you had some frustrations at the beginning like shutting down I okay I

00:44:01.319 --> 00:44:07.200
had some frustrations a lot of frustrations shutting down I find

00:44:04.839 --> 00:44:10.760
getting to the charms menu if you don't have like this is a touchcreen Windows 8

00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:14.960
laptop that I'm on right now if you have a touchcreen you just swipe in and it

00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:17.520
comes in very nicely and you swipe out and it goes out very nicely and that's

00:44:16.359 --> 00:44:22.880
awesome if you don't have a touchcreen it sucks um that's mainly to do with when

00:44:21.359 --> 00:44:26.359
it first came out I've noticed it got a little bit better but I still don't like

00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:30.680
it I don't like putting my mouse there and like waiting

00:44:28.240 --> 00:44:38.079
then having it just not come up and then I'm like guys I want to can I can I shut

00:44:34.319 --> 00:44:40.800
down please and then Metro like or I

00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:47.000
guess not Metro modern UI is that it's official name modern UI is not for me at

00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:51.760
all I don't like it um again maybe a lot better for touchscreen almost definitely

00:44:49.359 --> 00:44:57.599
a lot better for touchcreen but I'm not into it as a desktop user experience it

00:44:53.599 --> 00:45:00.760
looks amazing it feels really good

00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:02.440
but it takes too long like I'm I just

00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:08.160
want to press Start type in my stuff and go for it that was resolved by uh

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:11.880
Windows 8 classic start which I downloaded through 9ite can I uh can I

00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.800
chime in on Modern UI so one of the issues with modern UI and you look at

00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:22.599
even other popular touchscreen interfaces like iOS and Android they are

00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:27.400
very touchy very swipy but they don't actually get rid of the folder structure

00:45:25.319 --> 00:45:31.040
yeah they still have it and it's still and that was one of the frustrations I

00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:35.960
had with Windows Phone 8 and I think is similar to your frustration with modern

00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:37.880
UI because if modern UI had tiles but

00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:41.559
you could actually have sub tiles you probably would use it it would probably

00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:47.720
be fine carry on that probably would not be a big deal at all um I'm kind of a

00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:49.200
sucker for having cool backgrounds um so

00:45:47.720 --> 00:45:53.800
I like seeing my desktop and I like having a clean desktop I always go uh

00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:59.000
view don't show icons so I can have nice very very clean backgrounds even on my

00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:02.280
phone the home screen of my phone is

00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:05.040
completely blank

00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.760
um if I can get past all these popups the home screen of my phone is

00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:11.559
completely blank you can't really see very well right there but there's no icons except for the mandatory ones at

00:46:10.240 --> 00:46:14.960
the bottom which I can probably get rid of if I ROM it with something weird but

00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:20.800
it is not currently romed with something weird so there's mandatory icons on the

00:46:16.520 --> 00:46:23.800
bottom um okay so those are like the

00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:25.280
initial feelings with my laptop although

00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:28.960
not a big deal and I just kind of left it there because that was not a high

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:32.839
usage laptop file copy is amazing I I'll go into that but I didn't

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:38.280
really do that way too much on my laptop anyways um then I'm like okay Windows 8

00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:42.440
is released I have an official version I'm going to try and dive in because I I

00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:46.000
had to reinstall uh my Windows 7 installation on my desktop was pretty

00:46:44.200 --> 00:46:50.040
messed up and was probably going to stop booting pretty soon because of how

00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:55.680
messed up it was that was my fault by the way um I'm not going to go way too

00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:57.200
into it but yeah um I had to reinstall

00:46:55.680 --> 00:47:00.839
so I was like okay I might as well dive in and try Windows 8 I've got everything

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:04.000
on my data drive anyways I'm just reinstalling an operating system and

00:47:02.240 --> 00:47:07.920
basically ning my program so it's not really that big of a deal um Nite by the

00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:13.200
way if you're wondering why I keep saying this weird word it's n i nit T

00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:16.800
and then just that.com and you can go to the website it's really awesome way to

00:47:14.839 --> 00:47:19.680
install a whole bucket full of programs that you usually install when you're

00:47:18.200 --> 00:47:25.200
setting up a new computer anyways anyways okay so user experience

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.760
with my desktop a few random problems that I haven't seen a ton of people

00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:32.040
complain about um but I know it's not my Hardware because I've tried it with

00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:37.800
other installs with Windows 8 and another uh no I mean other installs with

00:47:34.520 --> 00:47:40.680
Windows 7 sorry it's I get random screen

00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:45.559
flickers where it will just like in about a quarter of a second

00:47:44.160 --> 00:47:50.520
it'll just invert my screen and then flip it back and I'm like whoa what just

00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:56.000
happened and then other times it'll just go completely black screen but only on

00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.359
my main Monitor and it's not my driver I

00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:05.480
re like like I've done tons of troubleshooting for it um then I've got

00:48:02.160 --> 00:48:06.920
other problems like just just weird like

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:11.520
things won't really work very well like have a lot of problems with USB 3 um

00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:15.280
really you had told me about that one I kind of got it working but like it's

00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:22.920
still just like sometimes it won't detect things um and just like just

00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:29.040
weird problems with that some games like I can't play crisis Warhead speaking of

00:48:25.839 --> 00:48:31.119
games not being we played over here you

00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:36.760
guys can kind of see it this test bench is I'm doing 8350 versus 3570k I've done

00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:41.079
pretty much all actually yeah all of the Windows 7 testing that didn't take me

00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:45.559
very long because everything worked and then I had to set up a new SSD I knew

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:48.280
everything with Windows 8 and the idea was we're going to do Windows 8 versus

00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.440
Windows 7 we're going to do Windows 8 on its own we're going to do like like

00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:57.119
we're going to try and do a whole bunch of stuff to add on to Logan's testing

00:48:54.280 --> 00:49:00.040
with 3570k versus 8350 so I to do a whole bunch of scenarios that he may not

00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:07.920
have done yet so we can just add to the discussion because that's a really interesting really good discussion um I

00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:11.359
couldn't play Witcher 2 wouldn't play

00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:16.280
Metro 2033 would not pull any save files

00:49:11.359 --> 00:49:19.200
from the ice cuzy for who knows why um

00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:25.720
Dirt 3 wouldn't play like all this stuff would not run at all so I tried

00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:29.680
reinstalling just absolutely everything and I think I'm going to be

00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:33.400
trying that again on Monday hopefully if I have some time I'll probably have some

00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:36.559
time um so hopefully that will actually work this time and that's not my own

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:42.680
personal rig but that is something I've directly worked on so that is a personal

00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:45.000
experience um ah what were some of the

00:49:42.680 --> 00:49:49.319
other problems certain programs have weird permission requirements like for

00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:55.440
steam to be able to run you need to run it as an administrator why it's steam

00:49:52.960 --> 00:50:02.480
come on for xfire to be able to run on Startup it needs to be always run as an

00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:04.280
administrator why why right like why

00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:08.319
that's so weird and like a lot of these problems were like okay I guess I'll go

00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:12.799
change that and allow this program to have administrator rights for whatever

00:50:10.200 --> 00:50:16.079
reason um but it's just bizarre it wasn't that big of a deal but it was the

00:50:14.200 --> 00:50:20.000
screen problems that I had which finally booted me off did we get into the bit

00:50:17.640 --> 00:50:23.640
where we assumed Windows 7 and Windows 8 would have equal gaming performance

00:50:22.240 --> 00:50:26.799
because they're based on the same kernel using the same driver pretty much wasn't

00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.760
even going to talk about those numbers we can bring it up if you don't mind talking about it before the video yeah

00:50:29.319 --> 00:50:36.319
well we're not let's not go into depth but guys we have a Windows 7 versus

00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:39.000
Windows 8 using Intel and AMD I told

00:50:36.319 --> 00:50:43.920
them set of gaming comparisons coming and we are seeing some pretty

00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:48.520
interesting weird stuff 20% performance drops going from Windows 7 to Windows 8

00:50:45.720 --> 00:50:52.000
and then sometimes where sometimes equal and then sometimes where there's a huge

00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:56.000
drop but then that's without anti-aliasing and then I add

00:50:53.640 --> 00:51:00.960
anti-aliasing and nothing changes for frame rates like exact same frame ratees

00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:04.640
running these to replicate to see if we can replicate it and it's just like

00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:08.480
Bizarro land kind of stuff and rerunning them like a lot more than I normally do

00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:12.799
because I'm like no no no no this is weird so with all of that said I think

00:51:10.720 --> 00:51:17.880
you and I can both still agree Windows 8 is optimal for a device like this it's

00:51:15.720 --> 00:51:20.319
awesome for touch it's great for touch it's great for tablets it's awesome for

00:51:19.200 --> 00:51:25.400
all that kind of stuff I mean if you want a mobile x86 platform so this is

00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:29.119
the Iconia w700 we have an unboxing that's going to be uploaded soon

00:51:27.319 --> 00:51:33.640
outstanding something like a touch notebook would you go Windows 7 or

00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.880
Windows 8 um for most my use cases for a

00:51:33.640 --> 00:51:38.880
notebook I'm not gaming whoa I totally missed that I'm not

00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:47.760
gaming for most my use cases for a notebook so not gaming um web browsing

00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:53.160
work in Excel work in PowerPoint work in word all that kind of stuff yeah yeah

00:51:50.359 --> 00:51:56.640
honestly I love this notebook so much in fact I'll take it back from you now um

00:51:54.799 --> 00:51:59.640
and Windows 8 is part of it the touch screen touch screen is one of those

00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.280
things where people say oh I can scroll just as easily with my keyboard and

00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:08.200
mouse you know what you don't necessarily want to sit with your hands on your computer while you read an

00:52:05.680 --> 00:52:12.200
article so maybe you want to rest them and maybe it's faster to just go scroll

00:52:10.319 --> 00:52:17.200
scroll scroll and sometimes the user experience of just being able to go uh

00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:22.680
that or I want to do this and just like touch the things is kind of nice instead

00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:25.200
of using these interfaces um so yeah

00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:28.799
just to recap I don't hate Windows 8 I don't even dislike it it's just not

00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:33.520
perfect for my desktop user experience I will probably stick with it on my laptop

00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:37.599
um and I don't have a tablet so yeah so I probably won't be moving to Windows 8

00:52:35.359 --> 00:52:42.640
on my desktop um I just installed Windows 7 last night on my personal rig

00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:46.559
I had to reformat because of a an a situation where I accidentally unplugged

00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:49.400
half of my RAID array uh while the computer was powered on and that doesn't

00:52:48.200 --> 00:52:55.200
really work so well with raid zero yeah raid zero it's not a good thing um so

00:52:52.040 --> 00:52:56.640
anyway I went Windows 7 partly because

00:52:55.200 --> 00:53:03.680
of the gaming experience that we're having on the test band chair although I don't know how much of that could be

00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.200
just we need to we need to do a lot more

00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:10.839
we haven't replicated it on a second machine yet yeah do that as well so you

00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:15.440
know take all that with a grain of salt um but aside from that spending some

00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:19.359
more time with it on the notebook here I mean I don't like having things like

00:53:17.040 --> 00:53:23.640
control panel moved around on me I don't like having things like search moved

00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:28.200
around on me um and the search is weird cuz it can only search in like files

00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:34.599
settings what I meant the categories of search I find frustrating like why um

00:53:31.720 --> 00:53:38.720
the start menu fixes a lot of the issues but not necessarily quite all of them

00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:43.319
and it has its own kind of problems classic star has its own problems and I

00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:47.040
really like arog glass yeah which is kind of dorky but I like being able to

00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:51.960
see through the top of things and like you know what's weird you can make a

00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:55.720
transparency for some of the stuff but not all but not everything like the

00:53:53.680 --> 00:54:01.920
Bottom bar the Tas bar will go transparent but then the top bar top

00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:03.319
bars will not and like at first he

00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:09.200
brought that up he's like oh I miss AOG glass and I like no big deal and then

00:54:05.799 --> 00:54:11.119
I'm like oh well I use it I kind of want

00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:16.000
it back I use it I use it to see what's under stuff like even just that top bar

00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:18.480
that little sliver and it just looks right oh I know it looks so good like

00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:23.640
you should be able to see through it like no I don't know not a big deal one

00:54:21.040 --> 00:54:28.160
thing that I'm going to miss a lot which you again don't care about no wait no

00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:33.280
not the file copy not okay file copy amazing so good I wish I could just like

00:54:30.640 --> 00:54:37.520
download the file copy UI I mean Terra copy is okay but it's not well

00:54:34.839 --> 00:54:43.119
integrated with Windows no not very well and like yeah whatever um and then and

00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:46.200
then task manager the new task manager is really no no I agree 100% new task

00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:52.319
manager is outstanding so I'm going to miss those two things and then one thing that you don't care about at all but if

00:54:50.359 --> 00:54:56.400
you are running a whole bunch of backgrounds and you have them switching

00:54:54.079 --> 00:55:00.040
if you have multiple monitors each one can have its own background there has to

00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:05.720
be some third party utility there is third party utility is it one you have

00:55:02.520 --> 00:55:09.240
to pay for it okay two it just sucks

00:55:05.720 --> 00:55:13.480
okay so like H I don't know all right

00:55:09.240 --> 00:55:16.240
then um yeah so there you go

00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:19.960
guys what are your impressions of Heart of the

00:55:17.160 --> 00:55:25.680
Swarm okay so I haven't played enough multiplayer yet the campaign is awesome

00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:29.000
um if you like RTS campaigns especially if you like star I suggest going and

00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:32.480
playing it and play it all the way through because the story wraps up kind

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:37.720
of nicely there's a few times where I'm like really did you really just do that

00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:42.720
why did you just do that but it ends up wrapping us wrapping up very nicely um

00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:48.599
multiplayer some of the new units that came out are really cool interesting fun

00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:52.039
all that kind of stuff balance I think might be a little bit odd right now were

00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:57.680
they weren't they thinking of removing carriers they were going to remove carriers which was going to remove me

00:55:54.839 --> 00:56:02.079
from the game because I just have that's like classic I love carriers man and

00:56:00.520 --> 00:56:05.640
like whenever I get to late game it's always fun to just like play normally

00:56:03.799 --> 00:56:11.200
and then all a sudden be like carriers because they never expect it oh so much

00:56:07.839 --> 00:56:14.400
fun um anyways so and like okay the

00:56:11.200 --> 00:56:16.200
unbalanced thing is coming from a person

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:20.880
that plays protos and is finding certain units on protos unbalanced in a way that

00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:24.960
they're slightly overpowered so I'm not being biased being like Oh Taran and

00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:30.319
zerich are overpowered like there's certain units on my team that are kind

00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:33.039
of nuts um there's one flyer unit that has a whole bunch of abilities but you

00:56:31.680 --> 00:56:37.319
can change its mode talk as if you're talking to them and they know what you're talking about you you can change

00:56:35.720 --> 00:56:41.799
its mode which makes it constantly use energy but that means that it can now

00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:46.520
shoot it can't normally Auto attack um but it's really fast moving and it

00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:49.520
doesn't cost nearly as much as say a a

00:56:46.520 --> 00:56:52.520
void Ray um so you can get it in behind

00:56:49.520 --> 00:56:54.240
Minal Lin is you can get it in behind

00:56:52.520 --> 00:56:58.039
mineral lines really really quickly activate this energy ability and just de

00:56:56.359 --> 00:57:02.319
imate mineral lines and then fly them away the energy will constantly go down

00:57:00.799 --> 00:57:06.760
even if you're not shooting so you have to be careful with toggling it and stuff

00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:12.079
but just the speed at which you can clear minion lines or uh mineral lines

00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:15.680
is insane and they're really fast and they're not that expensive so you can

00:57:13.640 --> 00:57:19.720
pump out three and then jump behind the guy's miral line and just like clear it

00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:24.119
and that's game over and just be like sup GG Noob have fun making a little bit

00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:29.520
more money not being able to afford anti-air turrets and having me just rewipe your mineral every time it's

00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:33.559
they're really good and now like I've only played a couple multiplayer games I

00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:37.200
honestly don't even really know the new units for the other races um so I'm

00:57:35.839 --> 00:57:42.799
probably not the best person to talk to about this and there might be really good counters for them and realistically

00:57:40.160 --> 00:57:47.400
they might suck um but every time I've used them it's just been kind of

00:57:44.799 --> 00:57:53.359
ridiculous I've just disallowed the other team from having workers at all so

00:57:51.359 --> 00:57:58.520
I don't know that's kind of cool but not fair so yeah really really fun I need to

00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:02.920
get more used to it I've been out of Starcraft for a while I haven't played

00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:07.640
for a really long time ladder matches last night was like the first time I've

00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:12.280
done ladder matches in months right so I'm pretty out of it but maybe next

00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:16.559
stream I'll be able to come back with a much more knowledgeable opinion on it on

00:58:14.200 --> 00:58:20.599
the multiplayer side at least so overall recommended for 39 I was surprised to

00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:24.359
see a $ 39.99 price point it's not a full price expansion yeah that's awesome

00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.559
that is cool and especially from someone like blizzard who who's like yeah

00:58:27.160 --> 00:58:33.280
release full price expansions all the time but then yeah it's not a full price

00:58:30.520 --> 00:58:36.799
expansion the campaign is not short I beat it in two days but that was like

00:58:35.200 --> 00:58:42.520
that was two pretty intense days I had to saw yeah I like would disappear after

00:58:40.520 --> 00:58:47.839
work and then stay up until like 5 or 6 in the morning and then come

00:58:45.359 --> 00:58:52.880
back to work the next day you were so crabby in a couple of those

00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:55.720
mornings um like you're baned I was going to I was tempted to be like look

00:58:54.039 --> 00:59:01.200
you can't play Starcraft until that late at night and come to work cranky like

00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:02.480
that but that's what was important um

00:59:01.200 --> 00:59:07.839
yeah that is the important thing I suppose beating a video game they they

00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:14.440
added a lot of really cool changes now um there's levels so you're

00:59:11.520 --> 00:59:17.920
like your person levels up I guess I think you gain levels depending on what

00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:22.119
race you're playing so like I'm a whatever level protos and I could be a

00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:26.640
different levels Z I think and while you're playing like as you spawn units

00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:29.920
as you kill units as you build buildings you gain experience and then you gain

00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:36.240
experience depending on like how long the game was and all this kind of stuff which add a cool Dynamic which is more

00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:41.160
fun for not the extremely hardcore players which is like oh cool I'm

00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.240
leveling upov more stats stats and

00:59:41.160 --> 00:59:48.480
achievements exactly there's way more of that kind of stuff in the game which

00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:52.280
honestly it it is kind of cheesy but I just love it it's cool I like leveling

00:59:50.839 --> 00:59:56.440
up in Starcraft I like getting experience in Star cuz just like oh

00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:59.480
that's cool like I I built this unit and then killed this dude so I got

00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:03.280
experience for building the unit and I got experience for killing him like I

01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:07.160
don't know it's kind of cool it is cheesy but it's kind of cool I like it

01:00:05.240 --> 01:00:10.160
did you ever uh yes we do have a build log of the week okay I'll have to I'll

01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:16.680
have to open that up on there when we get a minute next time you're talking for a bit but um why don't we move to

01:00:14.720 --> 01:00:20.079
Twitter we've still got a lot here why don't we burn through some of the quick

01:00:18.319 --> 01:00:26.280
some of the quick discussion topics okay so corer released 3 gigahertz that's

01:00:23.200 --> 01:00:28.640
3,000 mahz memory um did you you see

01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:33.680
this yet no okay curiously enough they released it under the Vengeance branding

01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:39.240
rather than Dominator yeah so they're Vengeance modules so they're not using

01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:42.559
the custom PCB they're not using or they might be using a custom PCB okay that I

01:00:40.839 --> 01:00:47.960
don't know don't quote me on that but they're Vengeance modules they are going

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:51.000
to be extremely limited production and

01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:53.160
extreme overclockers only need apply

01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:57.480
because not only do you have to have the 3 gigz memory which is going to be

01:00:54.839 --> 01:01:02.839
really expensive for two 4 gig dims but you will also need to have a CPU that

01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:05.039
can actually handle 3 GHz on the uh

01:01:02.839 --> 01:01:11.039
integrated memory controller and will that they can't all do that will that

01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:12.760
like actually heat up DDR3 probably I

01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:17.839
can't imagine this is like a stock voltage there's no way that's like cuz

01:01:15.200 --> 01:01:23.280
DDR3 doesn't heat up that much no but the binning process that's going into oh

01:01:20.520 --> 01:01:28.640
God 3 GHz I don't even want to know that's probably why they're Vengeance

01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:31.039
modules because the volume of modules

01:01:28.640 --> 01:01:35.640
that they would have to build to bin enough 3 GHz kits to ship because

01:01:34.200 --> 01:01:40.240
Vengeance are a higher volume part compared to dominators that's probably what happened so there you go there's

01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:44.720
the answer to the question that I couldn't figure out by me yeah yeah

01:01:42.799 --> 01:01:48.520
someone just commented in the twitch chat he's like finally he said something

01:01:46.720 --> 01:01:53.440
you actually need liquid cooling for but I was like yeah you don't really need to cool RAM so maybe you will actually have

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:57.240
to cool your RAM I mean these are intended for like liquid nitrogen

01:01:55.000 --> 01:02:01.880
cooling yeah so expecting people to push these well beyond 3 gz oh yeah so that's

01:02:00.319 --> 01:02:06.400
kind of neat if you're into memory overclocking I think very few people are

01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:12.240
these days though no as far as I know not so much so there's a rumored oh okay

01:02:09.359 --> 01:02:17.319
this uh oh you know what I wanted to do this I'm going to uh I'm going to go to

01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:23.640
the Linus Tech tips forum and I'm going to go to the news section because I do

01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:29.559
like to check our Tech news and reviews section on the Forum and uh pick out

01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:37.240
guys who posted news threads that I thought were interesting so our 3 GHz

01:02:32.200 --> 01:02:38.400
memory News Post was from seai Bell I

01:02:37.240 --> 01:02:44.000
don't know whatever I don't know what that is so at only $749.99 uh this was

01:02:42.279 --> 01:02:53.440
uh this was posted by one of the members of our Forum also there was a post on

01:02:47.359 --> 01:02:55.880
the AMD 7790 and NVIDIA GTX 655 TI that

01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:59.839
are rumored to be released at some point point so I don't know uh I don't know

01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:04.440
anything about these cards to be perfectly honest I don't know if they're real I don't know if they're actually

01:03:02.359 --> 01:03:08.400
coming but what I would imagine that they are because I don't think there's

01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:14.760
any new architectures coming right now um what I'd imagine they are is they're

01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:16.079
just overclocked 7770 and uh 650 TI

01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:22.599
probably that makes sense because they both overclock well um like 7 7770

01:03:20.359 --> 01:03:27.760
particularly is like yeah a beast overclocker so they could just go okay

01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:33.039
higher power envelope turn the clock speed up 7770 is one of my favorite cars

01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:38.319
to overclock CU it's just like um so that's probably what's coming

01:03:35.319 --> 01:03:39.799
on that side they're likely to line up

01:03:38.319 --> 01:03:42.920
sort of perfectly with each other because they're going to be speed bumps

01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:47.760
of cards that compare reasonably well although I'd expect the 7790 to continue

01:03:45.640 --> 01:03:53.079
to beat the 655 TI um if that's what they end up

01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:56.480
being called all this is complete speculation and rumors I know nothing

01:03:54.599 --> 01:04:02.839
about them which is why I can talk about them right if I knew I wouldn't be able

01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:05.839
to talk about it um because of our

01:04:02.839 --> 01:04:08.559
results where our overclocked

01:04:05.839 --> 01:04:13.720
7770 competes very favorably against the overclocked 650 TI so that's what leads

01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:18.599
me to believe that a higher bin of both versions right would favor AMD so right

01:04:16.839 --> 01:04:23.920
uh so there's that one so that one was posted by

01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:29.160
artorius on the Forum so let's go ahead and I'm going to S Like a Warrior all

01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:30.960
arus sorus so he's got some Sapphire's

01:04:29.160 --> 01:04:35.839
official Facebook announcement as well as so he's got references to other sites

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:40.480
which is good we don't want just random rumors that don't refer to anything so

01:04:38.799 --> 01:04:46.520
that's uh that's exciting so there was another one this one was the one aha so

01:04:43.279 --> 01:04:49.839
game developers say PlayStation 4 will

01:04:46.520 --> 01:04:51.839
outow most PCS for years to come now

01:04:49.839 --> 01:04:58.039
when we actually click on it this was started by Dragon Tale Dragon Tale that

01:04:54.520 --> 01:05:00.599
was a bit of a tionalist headline there

01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:06.279
because what the game devs actually said if we read a little bit further here is

01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:09.880
recent debate about new console something something has developers

01:05:08.319 --> 01:05:16.160
starting to come out and say that the PS4 will outperform entry level Hardware

01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:19.839
in the PC market that includes graphics

01:05:16.160 --> 01:05:25.799
cards around 4 gigs of RAM for years to

01:05:19.839 --> 01:05:30.599
come so okay couple of things here um

01:05:25.799 --> 01:05:34.119
number one is entrylevel PC Hardware is

01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:35.920
so far behind high-end PC Hardware I

01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:42.400
mean you look at entry-level graphics cards things like a 610 a 610 is still

01:05:40.240 --> 01:05:47.880
basically a lowend firmy like that was is a six I

01:05:46.160 --> 01:05:55.279
don't think 610 is even Kepler I think so and and even like back when in the

01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:57.119
400 series I think they rebadged 210 at

01:05:55.279 --> 01:06:00.279
some point point and made those 400 series like there's a lot of rebadging

01:05:58.720 --> 01:06:03.799
that goes reing happens all the time on the lowend stuff because quite frankly

01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:07.599
they sell them for so little that it's hardly even worth the R&D to redevelop

01:06:05.839 --> 01:06:12.960
the chips the people who are buying these cards are more interested in

01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:15.240
features like multim monitor than gaming

01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:19.400
um I I maintain you shouldn't buy a graphics card that's less than $100 if

01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:25.079
you're spending less than $100 on a graphics card you might as well put it in a piggy bank and save up for a

01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:30.880
platform upgrade because you can get Apu platforms you buy new CPU memory and

01:06:28.839 --> 01:06:33.359
motherboard for a couple hundred bucks that are going to outperform an

01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:39.000
entry-level graphics card from either NVIDIA or AMD we have videos from quite

01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:41.920
a while ago now actually but Apu videos

01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.599
they do really well y like surprisingly well if you want entry-level gaming

01:06:43.319 --> 01:06:49.359
performance don't buy an entry-level gaming graphics card because that isn't

01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:54.599
what it is buy an APU just do it uh CPU performance is decent it's not it's not

01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:56.760
on par with Intel but the graphics core

01:06:54.599 --> 01:07:00.760
is way ahead of what Intel's delivering right now although Haswell May shift

01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:07.200
things around a little bit because I was looking at the um the amount of core

01:07:03.839 --> 01:07:09.720
space that Intel is allocating to GPU

01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:13.520
CPU is like not going up at all in terms of the actual size like it's going to be

01:07:11.240 --> 01:07:17.599
just optimizations from what I can tell but then what they're doing on the GPU

01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:21.799
is they're like doubling it wow like way more die space so that's that's exciting

01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:26.079
well they needed to compete there a bit more to be honest so so anyway so yeah I

01:07:24.279 --> 01:07:29.520
mean saying something like it they'll be competitive with entry I mean Xbox 360

01:07:28.200 --> 01:07:33.680
is probably still competitive with entry-level PCS that's like a

01:07:31.359 --> 01:07:38.799
six-year-old console it's like wow how far into your crystal ball did you have

01:07:35.359 --> 01:07:40.640
to look for that with that said the vast

01:07:38.799 --> 01:07:43.640
majority of people out there are not running gaming computers and that's

01:07:42.240 --> 01:07:47.839
something that we enthusiasts forget about sometimes there's a lot of 8800s

01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:52.680
there's a lot of 260s there's a lot of stuff that's way crappier than that

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:58.880
that's true there's a lot of like you know 8600 GTS still out there there's a

01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:02.920
lot of 8500s still out there lot of previous stuff still out there there's a

01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:06.839
lot of Gamers who are still living at home with their parents using whatever

01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:11.520
computer their parents bought from a big box store one of my like they want to

01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:17.679
play games but one of my really really really good buddies is running an an

01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:19.799
eco-friendly 8800 that only has one uh

01:08:17.679 --> 01:08:23.759
PCI Express power plugin that's exactly the same as the

01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:29.040
regular 8800 there's a little tidbit for you it was just a it was just a revision

01:08:27.040 --> 01:08:32.640
to the core that made it slightly more power efficient it's power its

01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:36.799
performance is exactly the same as a non-co well we've benched it and they

01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:40.400
were different that's very maybe that's binning or something that happened there

01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:44.080
that's very strange we'll have to look I'll have to

01:08:42.400 --> 01:08:49.719
look into that one more outside of the stream um but yeah he still plays

01:08:47.120 --> 01:08:55.520
absolutely everything yep and you know the the reality of it is uh the PCS sort

01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:59.440
of you know the greatest thing about about it and the worst thing about it is

01:08:57.080 --> 01:09:05.199
the flexibility of the hardware so you can make a game for PC and if you make a

01:09:02.719 --> 01:09:09.000
game for 90% of the PCS out there the way blizzard does you end up with games

01:09:07.440 --> 01:09:16.520
like Diablo II that look like they're 10 years old but the reality of it is that's

01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:17.920
still a PC game and consoles Next

01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:22.239
Generation consoles will be ahead of that level for a long time yeah because

01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:26.480
you you can develop for exactly the spec Y which is nice so there's that

01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:29.000
optimization that goes on as well um if we don't have anything we should

01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:35.279
jump on Twitter we haven't really been on Twitter at all yeah sure let's jump on Twitter for a little bit see if uh

01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:40.520
see if anyone's got any Twitter things if I could actually get the window open

01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:43.239
that would be great there we go I do so

01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:46.960
love this little uh keyboard mouse thing LOL my friend got ripped off at fries

01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:51.759
they said 800 watt power supply water cooling Etc nope he wasted money on a

01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:55.400
gt640 3 gig and that's another thing about that statement from the game DS

01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:59.560
what do you mean a 4 gab graphics card that doesn't mean anything you could put

01:09:57.360 --> 01:10:06.920
4 GB in fact I think someone did put 4 gigs of memory on a low-end uh gt600

01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.679
series I'm just looking at that come on

01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:13.960
that card is going to be bottlenecked by the time it fills up 512 Megs of vram

01:10:12.120 --> 01:10:18.000
because any modern game that actually has highres textures a turn them off

01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:21.960
because they're not going to run on that card and B you're going to be running at

01:10:20.719 --> 01:10:27.000
such a low resolution you're not going to need the vram

01:10:24.120 --> 01:10:32.679
anyway um we usually mean competitive in terms of performance I think re in that

01:10:30.120 --> 01:10:37.520
3200 integrated GPU I think that's an older one from like the express chipsets

01:10:35.719 --> 01:10:42.400
that's not quite the same as an APU just throwing that out there it's me playing

01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:45.480
games with a 9800 yep 650 TI with one or

01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:48.320
two gigs vram one one gig vram is fine

01:10:45.480 --> 01:10:52.080
for 650 TI is it interesting the T balancer T balancer

01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:58.960
next one can you talk about your tea balancer uh I've talked about this on the live streams before so I don't want

01:10:56.480 --> 01:11:01.880
saying recommended he's asking if he should buy one we've talked about why we

01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:07.280
liked it we haven't talked about why we don't like it it's really hard to configure it's such a pain it's hard to

01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:10.199
even find an English version of the stupid software last time I did it which

01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:15.679
was like a couple years ago mind you I tried to do it more recently and could not get an English version working I

01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:18.480
think you have to get the German version and then you have to figure out how to

01:11:17.040 --> 01:11:22.560
change it to English within the German version reading the German menus and

01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:25.640
apparently that works so like like there's a lot of usability things that

01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:30.600
are kind of weird but once you have it set up it's set and forget you never

01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:33.679
touch it again I I didn't touch it for literally years and it just

01:11:32.360 --> 01:11:37.040
automatically configured everything through multiple rebuilds of my computer

01:11:35.480 --> 01:11:40.440
I just didn't change anything about my T balanc or just remembered which fans

01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:45.080
kind of plugged into what and like it's awesome but you're going to have to fight with it a bit that's all okay we

01:11:43.639 --> 01:11:48.679
are going to have a featured rig from the forums a featured build log but I

01:11:46.679 --> 01:11:52.440
don't I don't want to click on anything in Twitter right now just in case it's

01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:56.719
like goatsy or something I'm trying to OC my 777s but can only get a small over

01:11:55.360 --> 01:12:02.120
clock you got way higher try turning up the voltage that might be

01:11:59.719 --> 01:12:05.360
something oh oh you know what I think I might have made a mistake PC computer

01:12:03.679 --> 01:12:13.320
geek might be right we usually line up 7770 with the non-ti don't

01:12:08.320 --> 01:12:14.880
we yes TI is lined up with do we even I

01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:21.000
don't remember okay you'll have to check that out I'll get that one

01:12:17.080 --> 01:12:23.360
sec um no we yeah no he's right because

01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:26.159
it's 650 I'm just do we even run 650 TI I don't think we do so there you go we

01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:29.880
were totally wrong in that whole discussion about that any giveaways

01:12:28.120 --> 01:12:37.199
today probably no giveaways today yeah we run 650 660 660 Ti and 670 is the

01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:38.639
Aries 2 all sold probably ATI can only

01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:42.280
use physx by running calculations off the CPU how much of an impact on FPS is

01:12:40.360 --> 01:12:48.120
this well a lot of games it's like kneecapped by the way that FSX is

01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:50.360
implemented so yeah you never explained

01:12:48.120 --> 01:12:53.520
Cherry MX green switches in your mechanical keyboard Techquickie video

01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:57.480
can you explain its advantages and disadvantages it's basically heavier

01:12:55.719 --> 01:13:02.719
blue and the reason we didn't talk about it was because find a keyboard that

01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:06.679
actually has okay I know there are some but they're very well yeah but that's

01:13:04.719 --> 01:13:09.000
not even out yet we're not they're not even supposed to be talking to us about

01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:13.920
that you're going to get them in trouble sh I they previewed at CIS they

01:13:11.320 --> 01:13:18.159
previewed it at CES but there are very few keyboards out there with Cherry MX

01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:21.600
green and it may gain some popularity moving forward but they are more

01:13:19.440 --> 01:13:26.639
expensive and they are much less rare than the usual blue red brown black key

01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:31.719
switches they have it on their website as new for 99 bucks okay well there you

01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:36.159
go okay apparent 99 Only is that a 10 keyless oh yeah that's an expensive 10

01:13:33.280 --> 01:13:39.639
key list then yeah that's still keyboard with green switches all right exciting

01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:44.280
he he just said they're heavier Blues they also have a more accurate actuation

01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:48.800
Point Blues have a slight problem that people and like okay this I use

01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:54.679
exclusively Blues on everything um but Blues have a slight problem where if you

01:13:50.719 --> 01:13:57.239
float right under the click you can um

01:13:54.679 --> 01:13:59.679
hit the actuation Point repeatedly so there's double tapping issues that

01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:05.400
people will have if they're trying to click really really quickly where they'll accidentally go back down before

01:14:03.280 --> 01:14:11.880
they click and they'll actuate it too many times so the actuation point is not

01:14:08.719 --> 01:14:14.159
exactly on the click greens is way more

01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:18.360
accurate in that aspect than Blues now in saying this Blues are pretty darn

01:14:16.480 --> 01:14:21.960
accurate like you're not going to have you're not going to have this problem

01:14:19.480 --> 01:14:26.960
that often but that is a notable difference is the greens do have a more

01:14:24.120 --> 01:14:32.719
accurate click an actuation Point level okay little bit more Twitter uh is

01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:36.360
it worth it to oh uh corser 200 R is a good good budget case uh we're using one

01:14:34.719 --> 01:14:40.520
for our video capture PC that we're running on right now is it worth it to

01:14:38.120 --> 01:14:44.080
get a big bang 2 that supports 128 GB of RAM I don't know if I would run wait

01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:50.000
where are you going to get 128 gigs of RAM on an x79 you need 16 gig dims so

01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:55.840
good luck with that rumors of those are they coming soon coming out soon non ECC

01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:57.159
16 gig dims rumors okay I don't know

01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:01.440
I've just read You' be spending a fortune on it by the time you spent that

01:14:59.080 --> 01:15:06.040
much on 16 gig dims if this is for a video editing and rendering station get

01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:10.800
yourself a dual socket super micro board throw a couple of zons in there and then

01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:14.480
get lower density 8 gig dims and fill it up just fill it up and then you can get

01:15:12.280 --> 01:15:18.159
your 128 gigs of RAM and get more processing power and a proper

01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:22.719
workstation platform at the same time probably for a fairly uh not at the

01:15:21.040 --> 01:15:27.800
price 16 gig dims will probably be probably a fairly competitive price

01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:30.960
cheaper yeah yeah to be honest lus wanted to get your opinion should I wait

01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:35.920
for the 900d or get something now like a phantom 630 Phantom 630 is not very

01:15:33.120 --> 01:15:40.159
comparable to the 900d I mean 900d is a monster 630 is quite like it's a mid

01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:43.560
Tower almost it's like full steel and aluminum isn't it yeah it's like full

01:15:41.719 --> 01:15:48.000
metal for the 900d whereas a very plastic design for the 630 I think you

01:15:45.400 --> 01:15:53.600
need to decide exactly what you want and then decide what to buy I'd probably go

01:15:50.280 --> 01:15:55.520
with a 7950 or a 60 TI I mean that's a

01:15:53.600 --> 01:16:00.000
good M oh 347 maybe a 660 660 is a great value or a

01:15:58.120 --> 01:16:03.840
7870 or 7850 when is slick going to upload

01:16:02.120 --> 01:16:07.960
videos to his YouTube channel that is for that channel that you see when I

01:16:05.719 --> 01:16:11.800
comment on YouTube videos is for replying to comments on YouTube videos I

01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:14.239
am not planning on releasing anything on that channel uh Slick's personal rig has

01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:18.719
been updated yep uh people asked you to talk about your personal rig and we never

01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:26.120
talked about it during the Windows 8 thing okay um I'm running I'm water

01:16:21.440 --> 01:16:31.159
cooling with a t- virus and a 12.3

01:16:26.120 --> 01:16:35.520
um PA 12.3 donated by someone very

01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:39.639
gracious um I'm running a 2600k and

01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:41.760
moving to a GTX 670 water cooled this

01:16:39.639 --> 01:16:45.120
one's very very short yeah it's really short very short mini card it's

01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:50.639
literally about this looks really small in the 800 it's a little bit ridiculous

01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:55.719
um but it actually kind of works for my water loop yeah cuz it'll be in the right

01:16:53.480 --> 01:17:01.360
position to so you won't have to re replum and buy you tubing so it actually

01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:03.120
kind of works um I have a lot of I don't

01:17:01.360 --> 01:17:06.840
want to do a personal rig update video because I have a lot of work on that rig

01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:10.800
that I need to do before I want to release a personal update video uh the

01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:16.520
mineral oil rig had enough novelty in it that it was just kind of awesome um but

01:17:14.040 --> 01:17:19.520
like currently I love the power that's there's like junk growing in his Loop

01:17:17.639 --> 01:17:24.480
and he doesn't want to show you guys actually that goes away and comes back

01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:28.000
because of the silver fittings right now it's not there is it not there right now

01:17:26.360 --> 01:17:31.840
no it's not oh that's weird but it comes back it's the silver fittings it cleans

01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:35.880
it and then gets dirty it's because I don't think I have enough if I had

01:17:34.120 --> 01:17:41.840
silver fittings on my D5 okay I think it would be

01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:46.080
enough like eight silver fittings in it yeah have six yeah okay um if and adding

01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:50.280
in that graphics card might actually solve it okay if I add two more silver

01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:54.480
fittings there that might actually fix my problem okay or I can just add a kill

01:17:52.040 --> 01:17:58.080
coil or something but anyways uh I still need to like lik seve my power supply um

01:17:56.639 --> 01:18:02.280
yeah your power supply looks ghetto it's a high current ugly it's awesome power

01:18:00.280 --> 01:18:07.960
supply yeah High current Pro 1200 wat or something ridic it's beast and like

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:11.120
unnecessary but whatever um but totally

01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:15.040
beast and ugly super ugly so I need to

01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:17.159
sleeve that um I'm in an 800d but like

01:18:15.040 --> 01:18:21.400
the front looks horrible it's a little bit broken there's some scratches like I

01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:27.199
I need to so beat up like it's really beat up um one of my roommates that I

01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:30.320
had who was often Under the Influence

01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:33.440
utilized the cardboard panels from the

01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:37.080
box for my 800d to build

01:18:33.440 --> 01:18:39.320
something I was I came home and I'm just

01:18:37.080 --> 01:18:42.679
like what and this is like weeks afterwards cuz I just had the box for it

01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:49.440
in the back room and never really thought about it right and I'm like K well I can't transport my 800d in a box

01:18:47.400 --> 01:18:54.360
anymore it's just so heavy which is insanely really hard to move around and

01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:58.960
like have it not like if it SL like once it gain momentum if it starts moving in

01:18:56.199 --> 01:19:03.080
the back of a car it's going to smack and then that creates scratches so like

01:19:00.719 --> 01:19:08.280
it's it's an 800d but it's like probably one of the least attractive 800 DS in

01:19:05.280 --> 01:19:10.320
existence not really um but it's it's

01:19:08.280 --> 01:19:12.800
not doing so it's down there it's definitely down there so that needs to

01:19:11.400 --> 01:19:17.800
be replaced I need to leave my cables like there's work that needs to be done before I want to release but you're

01:19:15.400 --> 01:19:20.920
saving for a car I'm saving up for a car he's saving for a car so he can drive me

01:19:19.440 --> 01:19:26.679
around for a change instead of the other way around yeah so like it's going to be

01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:33.159
a while but yeah that's that's my rig can we put like um like benchmarker SL

01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:36.480
programmer SL shofur on your business cards when we have them printed oh my

01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:40.840
God we got to do that that would be so amazing that would be perfect we have to

01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:45.639
have chauffeur on we should have leaky chauffeur you'll have to Leaky chauffeur

01:19:43.120 --> 01:19:49.760
yeah his car now actually the roof leaks it's a Pontiac which should be all you

01:19:47.280 --> 01:19:54.199
it's a convertible in BC it got cold and it cracked it's an old car PTI old

01:19:52.520 --> 01:20:00.199
probably leaked at the beginning no no no it's an old car why do you defend the

01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:02.320
Pontiac cuz I like that car what is good

01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:07.120
everything about it is terrible it doesn't even have cup holders that's

01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:11.800
stupid it's convertible you don't need cup what do you mean it's a convertible

01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:16.800
you don't need cup holders nothing slides with you I was

01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:20.920
hoping you wouldn't notice that that's that's like I can't even compare that to

01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:25.280
anything that's like saying it's a it's a it's a it's it's a Rancher it doesn't

01:20:24.320 --> 01:20:32.080
need it was my first car it's gotten me around and it's awesome in the summer

01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:36.400
it's amazingly awesome in the summer you know the cruise around with the top down

01:20:33.400 --> 01:20:37.239
in the summer when it's hot is just kind

01:20:36.400 --> 01:20:44.800
of awesome okay Pontiac whatever your car

01:20:40.679 --> 01:20:44.800
be Leaf runs oh I need to change

01:20:45.440 --> 01:20:54.040
gears okay we're still moving well maybe if I wasn't driving your huge ass around

01:20:51.080 --> 01:20:59.400
everywhere my car would still run it was broken weigh about double what I do what

01:20:57.400 --> 01:21:03.000
I thought we figured out actually no it's not

01:21:00.440 --> 01:21:08.239
bad whatever you look like you weigh um twice as hard to look at there

01:21:06.679 --> 01:21:13.679
Bam Bam um what was I going to say I don't

01:21:11.480 --> 01:21:19.120
care I can't even remember whatever something about your stupid car I like

01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:21.400
my car um something about your personal

01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:23.600
rig oh yeah you're saving up for a car so you're not going to do all the

01:21:22.239 --> 01:21:26.960
upgrades right away that's right away yeah but I am planning like eventually

01:21:25.360 --> 01:21:32.280
all this will happen and then I will eventually release a rig update but like

01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:38.199
I wouldn't I wouldn't hold up for it uh new slore fans for my PC or save

01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:41.360
up for a GTX 680 lightning I don't know if your computer's really loud I've done

01:21:40.040 --> 01:21:46.880
cooling upgrades as opposed to performance upgrades but it really depends what video card you're running

01:21:44.360 --> 01:21:50.800
now although 680 lightning isn't necessarily the best choice unless you

01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:56.360
want to run 3D Vision or NVIDIA um or rather um 3D Vision or fiz X orud go

01:21:54.880 --> 01:22:00.000
what games you play and then check out some of our videos yeah 7970 may end up

01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:05.320
being a better choice for you like something like a um sh what's that ASUS

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:09.840
one The Matrix one Matrix 7970 is awesome card we did an NCI Tech tips

01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:13.760
quite a while ago showing that even without the never settle driver it was

01:22:11.719 --> 01:22:17.040
already the fastest single card went overclock to the Max and we ran into

01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:21.920
gains to 680 lightning and the never settle driver is like kind of a big deal

01:22:20.360 --> 01:22:25.239
yeah kind of a huge deal Sean contributes that Windows 8 has been

01:22:23.440 --> 01:22:28.960
super Shady on his Grand mother's new computer apparently to run some

01:22:27.400 --> 01:22:32.320
Microsoft games in Windows 8 you need a new app and steam's not providing it so

01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:37.840
that might be something for you to look into I uh we're probably not going to do

01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:42.280
a video on OC Basics because we do specific videos on NC Tech tips for

01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:46.760
every new platform anyway so just go check out our overclocking guides over

01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:52.199
there and you should pick up pretty much most of what you need to know my mouse

01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:54.280
isn't working oh there it goes yay it's

01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:58.199
back and honestly the Windows 8 comments like the usability of different things

01:22:56.320 --> 01:23:03.080
is like I was able to deal with that it's the monitor randomly inverting and

01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:06.679
going black right that I'm not able to deal with because like I've died so many

01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:11.440
times in games just cuz I'm like oh I have a black screen and I can't do anything for six or seven seconds and in

01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:16.000
a lot of games when you can't do anything for six or seven seconds you're

01:23:13.719 --> 01:23:20.480
kind of scream um okay a little bit more Twitter Q&A so Robert asks if his fx8350

01:23:19.080 --> 01:23:25.440
showing four physical cores and eight logical cores and task manager is normal

01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:30.239
and it I don't know is that normal because pile driver cor P pile driver

01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:34.679
modules have are sort of like a core and a half yeah they're they're funky but

01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:38.040
it's not quite like not a core at all the way hyperthreading is so it's

01:23:36.719 --> 01:23:43.600
probably normal as long as it shows eight logical then it should be fine by

01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:45.639
the way slick defense fer kindly so

01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:52.000
basically my car is a Ferrari it's a Pontiac Ferrari built by Pontiac

01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:58.719
Ferrari slick can drive to wreck beach in his convertible Pontiac exactly that

01:23:54.880 --> 01:24:03.520
is how classy a convertible Pontiac

01:23:58.719 --> 01:24:05.560
is Bam and welcome lime fire the Lexus

01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:09.520
LFA has no cup holders and it's an amazing car don't judge a car by its cup

01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:14.600
holders okay okay how about this how about the fact that the Pontiac has no

01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:16.040
cup holders and isn't an amazing car how

01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:23.360
about the cup holders are just one thing for me to pick on in in like 20 years

01:24:19.320 --> 01:24:26.239
all it's needed is new spark plugs okay

01:24:23.360 --> 01:24:31.280
bam and pretty good runs great and a serious like non suckitude

01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:34.600
makeover uh is slick a family member how is he always with you he works me way

01:24:32.679 --> 01:24:38.880
too much yeah that's pretty much it I'm not getting paid right now actually

01:24:36.679 --> 01:24:43.010
you're not no no although you're salaried so technically you are getting

01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:44.920
paid right now just not very

01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:50.480
much like really

01:24:48.040 --> 01:24:54.800
small are you planning a project car I can't imagine you you're not that

01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:57.800
mechanically inclined are you I do okay

01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:59.360
I do I right my dad is okay and then I

01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:03.280
kind of get some from there my dad's kind of a wizard when it comes to

01:25:01.360 --> 01:25:07.719
anything so um Chris I don't think we need more heat sink manufacturers I

01:25:05.679 --> 01:25:11.960
think Scythe exiting the North American Market was sort of all we needed to know

01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:16.320
they had for that yeah good unique products and couldn't make it over here

01:25:14.040 --> 01:25:21.639
because we have enough heat SN manufacturers be quiet! recently moved

01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:27.199
over even yeah they did recently is um I have a blah blah blah blah yep

01:25:25.320 --> 01:25:30.199
definitely go for it Richard do you think Samsung's features are actually

01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:33.600
useful or just bloat Weare ruining Android what monitor are you going to

01:25:32.080 --> 01:25:38.159
use now that your old one broke my mother always told me if you

01:25:35.719 --> 01:25:41.960
don't have anything nice to say do say anything at all skip over it and address

01:25:39.719 --> 01:25:48.760
the next question um I am I don't know he's thinking about

01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:53.679
a leonitis yeah I'm looking into the leonitis I'm thinking about getting

01:25:50.440 --> 01:25:57.159
repaired I would love to drop like five

01:25:53.679 --> 01:26:00.040
grand on Sharp's 32 in 4k monitor but I

01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:07.360
think my wife would kill me like absolutely kill me so

01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:09.119
um yeah I don't know yet if I can repair

01:26:07.360 --> 01:26:13.320
the 305t for a reasonable price then I'll do that in all likelihood just

01:26:10.719 --> 01:26:16.000
tuned in from England yay hi England uh my main question with the tea balancers

01:26:14.719 --> 01:26:20.719
can it actually switch the fans off absolutely the fan curves are fully

01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:23.520
configurable and fully actually work although I'd recommend using voltage

01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:28.600
control and I probably wouldn't recommend using WM fans have you thought

01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:31.920
of combining forces with 10 Syndicate or do you plan to continue to be

01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:35.960
competitors 10 Syndicate well Logan's on the east coast and we're on the west

01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:40.560
coast so unless yeah unless one of us was planning to move I don't think we'd

01:26:38.360 --> 01:26:44.840
be like merging our companies because he's running his own business now too

01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:48.520
much the same way that I am um however I really don't see us as competitors

01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:52.360
Logan's awesome we like Logan yeah we like Logan like a lot I mean we've

01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:55.199
emailed him we've like Twitter chatted with him I've never met him in person

01:26:53.600 --> 01:27:01.440
unfortunately that I'm hoping to at some point but uh yeah we guys hey go

01:26:59.080 --> 01:27:06.520
subscribe raise the world with a zero not to no um on YouTube Tech Syndicate

01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:10.880
go subscribe because Logan's a good guy and his format is so different from ours

01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:15.320
it's good I mean I like it we both do benchmarks but his news show is much

01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:23.800
more structured it's more of a recorded show whereas our news show is like live

01:27:19.400 --> 01:27:25.679
Q&A um subscribing to both channels you

01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:28.719
have that much of a Content style overlap and you would probably if and

01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:33.960
you'll get a couple different perspectives yeah it's cool get M slicks

01:27:31.480 --> 01:27:37.159
Logan uh subscribe to Paul Hardware as well as well as uh awesome sauce news

01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:44.199
that's Kyle from Newegg yeah all good all good

01:27:40.040 --> 01:27:46.400
guys uh okay let's see 520 watt 80 plus

01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:51.080
Platinum is that the uh the passive one if so good work Melvin because the pass

01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:56.119
is boss you know what I figured out I think that one is built on the

01:27:53.560 --> 01:28:00.520
same plat form as the XFX th000 watt Platinum that I'm using yeah yeah you

01:27:57.679 --> 01:28:05.600
told me about that and the fans on my radiator are air penetrators so they're

01:28:03.320 --> 01:28:09.440
directed air flow so if I at least have that one running a little bit I will can

01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:14.159
have no fan at all in my power supply because 520 watts is lots for what I'm

01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:17.639
doing in fact is it 520 or

01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:21.239
550 5 520 yeah I can see it it's over

01:28:17.639 --> 01:28:24.880
there uh how about how is pump rattle in

01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:27.840
the h100 uh neither of our h100s is bad

01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:32.719
yeah I I owned an IBM model M for a little while and then someone took it

01:28:30.280 --> 01:28:37.880
back from me after I cleaned it up how many Canadian viewers do you have I I

01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:37.880
don't know

01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:46.159
400 42 five six first time I watched the

01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:51.239
stream in real time all right can't pronounce your name but that's cool whoa

01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:53.840
is an SLI config of 660 non TI okay you

01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:58.040
know what probably not a bad idea 660 is not that far behind the TI and as long

01:28:56.199 --> 01:29:01.440
as you don't need the extra vram of getting a higher end card with more

01:28:59.440 --> 01:29:06.280
video memory you should be able to get a pretty significant performance boost to

01:29:03.480 --> 01:29:12.560
the tune of of better than you would do by selling a 660 and getting a 670 or

01:29:08.719 --> 01:29:15.679
something like that um dark genin it's

01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:17.760
not N Night classic start I just

01:29:15.679 --> 01:29:23.920
download classic start I think it's Classic Shell for Windows 8 from the N

01:29:20.719 --> 01:29:25.960
Night website just want to clarify that

01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:30.840
uh I'm only 13 I'm not posting strange pictures yeah I was a perfect angel on

01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:36.360
the internet when I was 13 too either way we don't want to risk it

01:29:33.480 --> 01:29:40.920
because we've clicked on stuff that kind of killed people's ears before Tim

01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:43.719
already knows the answer

01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:47.920
n12 Logan likes one of your CES he likes one of our CES we did like 50 what a

01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:51.239
jerk good enough don't subscribe to Logan I take back everything I said

01:29:49.639 --> 01:29:54.840
before about subscribing to Logan I don't even care I still like Logan

01:29:52.800 --> 01:30:00.840
whatever man okay let's see if we've got oh EVGA released their utility for

01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:03.400
changing the lighting yes 690 and Titan

01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:07.000
so you can uh lower the brightness increase the brightness you can set it

01:30:05.040 --> 01:30:11.199
to breathing breathing mode which is like I love breathing mode for LEDs it's

01:30:09.080 --> 01:30:15.480
just awesome although what I think I would probably do if I was balling

01:30:13.040 --> 01:30:21.239
enough to have a Titan is I would set it up depending on GPU load it can go

01:30:18.440 --> 01:30:24.639
brighter or dimmer so cool so cool that's the kind of stuff that really

01:30:22.280 --> 01:30:30.000
makes me geek out that's awesome I love stuff like that that's why I like

01:30:27.080 --> 01:30:33.600
um uh tactical tracers crucial tactical tracers RAM I tried to install the

01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:37.159
application on my computer it just says unsupported motherboard I haven't done a

01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:41.360
BIOS update though it's still running BIOS V1 and it's running that weird Zeon

01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:46.080
chipset it's running a workstation chipset so I might try taking the

01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:49.440
modules putting them in an x79 or like a z68 board or something and then moving

01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:53.440
them and moving them back over cuz I think it saved on the modules themselves

01:30:51.440 --> 01:30:58.000
I think so but I think so I don't don't quote either on that yeah we don't we

01:30:55.320 --> 01:31:02.159
don't actually know so there what was I going to say yeah and

01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:07.880
in combination that would actually be pretty cool oh that'd be so

01:31:05.440 --> 01:31:11.520
cool probably want to do like an LED color swap on the Titan though like if

01:31:10.080 --> 01:31:17.000
there you could probably do it cuz you could take the green out of the cooler and probably put in blue I bet it's not

01:31:14.040 --> 01:31:24.679
even a colored LED looking at that color that's not a green LED color that would

01:31:20.360 --> 01:31:27.920
be that would look so good like blue GTX

01:31:24.679 --> 01:31:29.960
wo that would be cool uh speaking of

01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:33.960
like mods and Rigs and stuff like that I'm actually just you should probably

01:31:31.080 --> 01:31:37.800
not have your sending myself oh yeah guys please don't read my

01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:41.159
emails uh I don't think there's anything here that's that bad but you've got

01:31:39.360 --> 01:31:45.000
stuff from like from people so their names are there and stuff yeah that they

01:31:43.320 --> 01:31:49.080
might care about that that email from that guy is like the most bizarre thing

01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:53.480
that uh that I've seen in a while I don't even see it it's uh they want us

01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:58.239
to promote some contest or something to win like a TV or something we talk about

01:31:55.600 --> 01:32:01.679
the the I have no idea what you're talking about I don't know if I can talk

01:31:59.679 --> 01:32:05.520
about here I'll type it one sec are you drunk no I just don't know how to

01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:12.040
describe this sure yeah go for it um I don't even

01:32:08.400 --> 01:32:13.480
know who it is it's um your it's uh oh

01:32:12.040 --> 01:32:18.600
crap you know what let's just save it then cuz I can't remember who makes now they're all going to be like what H

01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:23.440
we'll talk we'll talk about it later okay okay so let's do our featured build

01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:29.719
blog of the week from the lonus tech tips Forum so our featured build log is

01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:34.840
from joric wait a minute didn't we already feature this did

01:32:32.040 --> 01:32:39.159
we uh oh what you talking about Willis did

01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:42.040
we you have to log in all right I have

01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:46.840
to log in to see images uh I can't change that I'm sorry I think we already

01:32:44.679 --> 01:32:51.320
featured this one okay well jorck you're on again because it's too late for me to

01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:58.320
fix it now um uh uh uh I had other

01:32:56.600 --> 01:33:03.719
competitors okay live stream was very rush today

01:33:01.040 --> 01:33:09.000
okay I don't remember my password for the Forum right now so we're not at our

01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:09.000
best right now here

01:33:09.280 --> 01:33:18.920
guys there we go I'm logged in was this the first one I think yeah I we

01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:22.360
definitely featured this crap none of those were the completed pictures

01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:27.119
anyways way to go did you show the wrong pictures when we actually featured it

01:33:25.480 --> 01:33:30.920
oh I might not have showed I might not have showed all the pictures okay fine

01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:34.280
just we're just going to feature yoro again go to the very last and we're

01:33:32.400 --> 01:33:39.760
going to go to the very end of his build blog why you go

01:33:36.480 --> 01:33:43.000
okay all right it's

01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:46.600
not there it goes okay so we're going to

01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:48.280
look at his build properly this time so

01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:52.360
slick why don't you cover everything that's good about it here you can use

01:33:49.639 --> 01:33:56.679
this to uh yeah this was apparently feature before sorry guys

01:33:54.320 --> 01:34:01.400
guys this was very last minute we didn't have internet in the office today that

01:33:58.320 --> 01:34:03.080
was so fail like so fail I had to try

01:34:01.400 --> 01:34:07.639
and find a build log so I was trying to find build logs without

01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:10.800
pictures which is like kind of hard to do you just have to go based on memory

01:34:09.280 --> 01:34:14.320
of build logs you've seen before that are good so I was I was well I was

01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:18.400
reading the comments and trying to figure out what was going on with this

01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:23.080
one and I was like this sounds awesome so went with this and that apparently

01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:26.800
didn't work out too great um tell us about the rig though that looks awesome

01:34:25.040 --> 01:34:31.600
it looks amazing it's based on like crop circles that's why it's called

01:34:28.679 --> 01:34:34.560
phenomenon so kind of cool cool naming to go along with your style a lot of

01:34:33.040 --> 01:34:41.080
planning that went into this if you look into earlier posts like he gets into

01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:42.920
actually um what uh like I think it's

01:34:41.080 --> 01:34:46.480
called drafting I don't know if that's the official name for what he did

01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:49.840
specifically but he drafted out like what he was going to do for this crop

01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:56.400
circle and like the rest of the design of the case um a lot of really really

01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:58.040
cool maet window this it's very clean

01:34:56.400 --> 01:35:01.920
like you can even see that picture right there that is incredibly clean that's

01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:10.520
outstanding this I never saw so there you go um he uses M&D PC sleeving MD MD

01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:13.719
PC U oh I'm thinking million dollar PC

01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:15.639
um like just insanely clean everything

01:35:13.719 --> 01:35:19.639
about it is clean the I love the white fittings yeah I was just going to say

01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:22.920
the white fittings are awesome um the the sleeving situation he has going on

01:35:21.639 --> 01:35:27.920
is really interesting because a lot of people go with nice patterns and stuff

01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:29.560
like one one or two two or like half and

01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:33.960
half but he kind seen a lot of people do like one accent one or one accent one

01:35:32.639 --> 01:35:37.360
but he kind of flipped it around a little bit and that's scary because you

01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:42.840
can flip it around a little bit and it might not look very good and then you just sleeved everything doesn't look

01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:45.880
very good but this looks really good we have a visitor

01:35:46.040 --> 01:35:51.840
hi oh no okay well live stream's over

01:35:49.719 --> 01:35:57.000
guys my cats are apparently outside so I need to go chase them they are uh

01:35:54.400 --> 01:36:00.600
they're indoor cats because they're expensive and I don't want them to get

01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:05.000
stolen and they're stupid and I don't want them to get dead so um thank you

01:36:03.480 --> 01:36:10.360
guys for joining the live stream tonight I hope you enjoyed it we'll have the

01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:12.199
archive up hopefully pretty soon and uh

01:36:10.360 --> 01:36:16.400
good night everybody good night