The WAN Show: Titan-Z Delayed, ET Dumping Ground Found! - May 2nd, 2014
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2014-05-07
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welcome to the WAN Show guys you know what's funny because i actually received
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a complaint from one of our sponsors earlier this
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week um where well well it's not so much that
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i received a complaint as they received a complaint it was a major sponsor of
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ours so one of our one of our long-term
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relationships that we've had for a long time that's how long-term relationships
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work they last a long time i mean unless it's
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you know ah there's no good place this can go so it's a long-term sponsor and
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what happened was they actually received a complaint about the obscene content of
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a friday stream that was sponsored by
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said sponsor so i freaked out i'm like
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oh man i'm not always the most politically correct guy in the world i
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think we can all we can all agree on this uh slenderman definitely knows
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that i'm not always the most appropriate boss you know when it comes to touching
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and and words that i say but
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i was like okay well it must have been something particularly horrible if
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someone's complaining about it sounded really bad what sometimes i'm not an appropriate
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boss when it comes to touching and words that i say well like you know
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poopsicle okay
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that's what i meant so basically i'm freaking out i'm running
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around trying to download the archive twitch isn't working i can barely load a
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page on the site and i just want to watch the archive and i go oh no hold on
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youtube so i go on the youtube when i'm like oh this doesn't look that bad and then i go
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after party maybe something happened on the after party and so i'm like trying
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to get on twitch again i'm like i can't see this show i don't want to admit to
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guilt before i figure out if i did something wrong so at the end of it all
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get this i'm like still running around i get this
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email thank goodness for the pebble because i knew about the email
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immediately and it's like oh upon getting further clarification it
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was actually one of the participants in the chat
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of your show that said something obscene
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and i was just kind of sitting there going i was like
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really really the obscene content of my show is
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someone in twitch chat i don't think the public internet has a
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proper esrb rating i really don't think it does
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come on guys so that that was where my upset ended
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that was where my stress ended make bombs thank you for whoever's in
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the twitch chat doing that speaking of twitch chat being inappropriate um so so
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i was just they were like oh well you know do you think you could like get
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moderators i'm like yeah we're on it okay we've got this we've got this under
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control we are going to add so many moderators that you're not going to be
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able we're going to moderate well we moderate what would happen if we made
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everything can can moderators time out other moderators i don't think so
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okay so i was going to say if we made every single person a moderator i yeah
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that creates more problems than it is i know i know
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so we've got a great show for you today guys we've got a number of topics number
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one is the titan z or titan zed if you
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prefer from NVIDIA has allegedly been postponed and by allegedly i mean it was
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supposed to launch three days ago and it's not here so
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yeah the word on the street is actually well
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you'll have to wait for the word on the street why don't you just watch the show for a change you know how many people
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tune in for the intro and then leave i've been watching the twitch numbers
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really they're just like what did what do Linus and luke think no i'm totally
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messy i'm gonna say i'm pretty sure it goes up nobody does that
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like you push it goes up like for a while people watch the show to stare at
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your hunky good looks not because they want to watch the intro and then leave
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that's cute um also google is
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rumored to be launching the Android silver program and we've got a few
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details of what that would be but it sounds like some kind of a mishmash of
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the nexus program and google play edition phones and the love child that
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exists from that sort of pairing and actually people were freaking out
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initially when rumors started to swirl about nexus phones going away but in my
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mind this could be a very good thing more on that later we have china
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building an esports station i love saying more on that later
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because it's like it implies that whatever we say about it will be stupid
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more on that later anyway sorry
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oh man and nissan is developing a paint that
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will resist both water and oil more on that later
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that's a smart idea but i'm just that's not stupid you're
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done you're not even doing it right i'm gonna play the intro
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so
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uh
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we've actually recently done a fair bit of talking about the g750 on the show
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and we're gonna keep doing that today because we are both powered by the ASUS
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g750jz i still need nutrition to some point and he's talking about a rapper so
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nutrition yeah you said we're both powered by it but we're not we're more
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powered by like stuff that we eat and drink not necessarily the laptop
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were you thinking of that all week no actually
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i was thinking about jay-z the whole way okay well then put more effort into it
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next time if you're gonna say something stupid when i talk about the g750jz
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i want some premeditation so i'm gonna pre i'm i will do this i will plan out
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some sort of thing focused around jay-z for next week
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you're awful all right so let's move on to our first topic of the day
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nissan develops water repellent technology for their cars now that's a
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bit of a that's a bit of an oversimplification it's not actually
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nissan that developed this uh hydrophobic and oleophobic coating
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forward for clarification hydrophobic is water water repellent and uh oil phobic
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is oil repellent yes so but
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but they have developed the idea of putting such a coating on a car which to
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me like isn't that big of a deal but you know
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either way this video is freaking cool
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so we're gonna go ahead and watch it together and there's no sound so i will be the
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narrator nissan is this the world's first self-cleaning car
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driven by batman look at us painting it this is how paint
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works sometimes the paint has a hose that contains paint
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and you decide to turn the light off sometimes cars go on the road
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this is a windshield this is rain on the ground
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it's like backwards rain it starts on the ground it goes up your
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car and it contains sometimes mud this
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backwards rain evaporation repels water and spraying
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spray spray i was thinking of my shoulder because it hurts
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everyday dirt not just some day's dirt this is really impressive though okay so
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check this out check this out this final shot if the video is to be believed
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has not been doctored so you can actually find like a couple little
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things on it like there's a little thing here see that
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um and then down here this piece of plastic has actually clearly gone through the
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same treatment as the other piece of plastic one thing to note is that this
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is a left side vehicle so it means whenever they are like driving off the
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side of the road a little bit it'll be on this side so they did abuse the more
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you can kind of tell in the plastic yeah so you can tell in the plastic that they
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they abused this side more to make their
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point i think but that doesn't change the fact that the hydrophobic oleophobic
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coating everywhere where it isn't applied um or everywhere where it's been
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applied like on the paint here on the windshield is really really impressive i
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mean look at that we're just gonna here let's reframe on that for a second so
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you can see the way that the dirt and water just
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come right off of it now it's not the first time we've seen this when i saw
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nissan's video i went looking around for for other ones and i saw some really
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cool demos like taking a concrete cinder block and coating one
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side of it and just like trying to make it wet taking a glove yeah yeah and just
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like taking the two gloves and then putting them down on like paper towel
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and there's like like one drop there's really cool stuff where if you get a
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really nice camera and you like coat someone's finger in it and then put it
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in the water you can see like the layer around your finger where the water is
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not touching huh it's really interesting i'll try and
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find a video for you later um but some of my favorite ones is literally when
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someone just coats a shirt in it wears the shirt and then the other dude like sprays mustard or ketchup on them right
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and then just instead of going bl it hits them and then just falls off
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it's really it it like hurts the brain
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for the first few seconds so this was posted on the forum by probe nja so huge
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shout out to you for doing that and i think that's pretty much all there
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is to say about it nissan has said already that they have no plans to offer
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the paint as standard equipment but we'll consider making it an option you
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know what it to me is kind of funny what do you mean consider making it an
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option they have to be they have to talk like
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that i know because like what if something happens
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what if some patent comes out and then they're like oh there's no way this is
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gonna work because they didn't like you said at the beginning they didn't invent this this has existed that's why there's
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videos right like what we were just talking about people doing it um i can't
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remember the name but there's a brand that sells it just in spray cans and you
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can spray it on pretty much everything so
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yeah if you want to do this to whatever you do have to kind of worry like you
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don't want to eat this stuff i'm not even gonna bother read the label
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but something that's gonna repel liquids should probably not be ingested right
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well i mean the whole thing with scotchgard like you know why scotchguard
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sucks now right because they had to nerf it right yeah they had to completely
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change the formula the original scotchgard like my mum was under the
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impression that scotchgard was amazing so i went and like sprayed all of my ski
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equipment with it and like the first day i was like yeah i'm soaked this stuff is
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crap mom what on earth are you talking about she's like no no it's great it's
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great it's great Linus just put on all your stuff like
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okay disconnected
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um not working but then i actually looked into it and the reason they had
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to change the formula was because in the town where they manufactured it all the
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birth defect rate was like right right yeah so it was like a huge
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problem so yeah sure there could be some kind of environmental concern some kind
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of health concern that comes along with this type of a coating but at the end of
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the day if they are figuring out how to apply it to cars okay i guess the thing
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that i hate seeing is artificial segmentation like on our premium model
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we'll offer this option to have this oleophobic coating it's like you know
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what why don't you just paint the other car with it please just cover cover any
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car with it yeah because why not if you're buying it in mass it's probably
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not going to cost that much in the end and you wonder why consumers are sick of
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your crap when you artificially segment your
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products that way so i hope that nissan and anyone for that matter develops this
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the amount of water that gets wasted washing cars the amount of soap and
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cleaning chemicals that go down storm drains because not everyone is using
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environmentally friendly soaps when they clean their cars at least here in north
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america is pretty astounding i actually noticed the the culture seems a little
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bit in the places in europe that i've gone the culture about car washing seems
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very different so for example um i spent my honeymoon
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on the greek islands and i don't think i saw a single car that had probably been
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washed in the last two months like it just wasn't a thing whereas
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around here it's fairly rare to find a dirty car yeah and uh and that was just
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it was just a bit of an enlightening moment for me and i was just but then on
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on the polar opposite of that in france every single washroom you go into is
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going to be super pristine and here every single public washroom you go into
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is absolutely disgusting monstrosity
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another interesting thing is that i previous models of iphones i'm not sure
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if the current ones do but they have uh oleophobic coating on the screen the
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blackberry z10 could have probably used that yeah that screen was not very good
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i remember the problem you had with it with that said you do have particularly
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gross hands yes that is true but that phone was
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particularly bad at dealing with it like i i like i i even like fist bumping him
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no i'm sometimes i'm just like yeah
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it's pretty bad all right i'm not judging though i am
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you're gross you beat me to the punch on that one
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so this is right up your alley this next story here
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the famous fabled
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dumping ground for e.t the video game
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has been found so despite this being reportedly
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one of the worst games that anyone who's ever played it has ever played um people
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want to find it so badly because it's been kind of hidden away and it's really
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really really really hard to get your hands on so what happened was they dumped it in some
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landfill in new mexico and then never looked back and never yeah like they
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printed way too many copies of it way too many copies it was a total piece
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of garbage terrible so they just dumped it dumped it forgot about it it's
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in a landfill don't worry about it ever since then the internet has kind of gone
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insane it's had its ups and downs with this story but it's kind of gone insane
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the video game nerd also known as the cinemassacre group has been working on a
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video on it since i think 2007 there's a documentary going on right now and the
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people working on the documentary actually dug up the site and actually
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have found i've seen pictures of two or three of them now they look pretty
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smashed so i don't think any of them are actually going to work but we'll see who
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knows the last i heard none of the ones they had unearthed worked yet yeah but
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then that being said they might be able to remount chips right and make it work
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that way like maybe that cartridge doesn't work but that feels like cheating to me
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it kind of is but if you do want to get the game back um it might work in some
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form if you want original cartridge though i don't think they've unearthed one yet the the movie that uh cinemaska
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is making with angry video game nerd is gonna be like a science fiction
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adventure based movie so it's not really based around
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that much so kind of like e.t will there be an alien
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i'm sure there's going to be an alien i've seen parts of it um shoot me but it
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really doesn't look that good so
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i don't know we'll see someone will someone will attack me for that um but
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yeah that's honestly about it it's interesting i'm excited to see what
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comes with it i'm excited for the first one to hit ebay
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right that's that's what i'm and i'm excited to figure out what atari decides
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to do about this because they probably still technically own that land i don't think they've
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commented on any of this yet yeah so atari is just kind of
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but once someone starts making money off of this exactly i think the story
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changes a little bit i mean if you're atari you must be pretty desperate at
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this point yeah because like the angry video game nerd his is science fiction
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adventure based thing so i'm not too worried about that he's making a story
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and that's just based on the buried games it's not like yeah he's not planning to sell the
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cartridges or anything like that i imagine
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video game collectors would pay oh yeah
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and like especially to get one from the dig yeah so like i think it uh at the
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end of the day they're gonna i mean they're gonna excavate these and i suspect there's enough of them that
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something's gotta work unless they specifically smashed them before they
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put them down right right but i mean so i think there will be there
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will be tears right there will be the ones that are in basically like pristine condition and work there'll be ones that
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look good but don't work and there will be broken ones there's that game rating system have you heard
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of it before no you can you can ship in your unboxed game i can't remember the
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name of it right now but i'm sure someone in the chat will bring it up you can ship in your
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your like new inbox game and they'll rate
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how good condition it's in it's like any
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dents on the corners any rips anything like that they'll put it in a shell
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casing and they'll stamp an official rating on it
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so like if you get like a 95 rated nes game you can sell it for incredible
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amounts of money and it costs like 100 bucks just to get the service done
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so like if you get a high rating et that's from the dig
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it's gonna be worth tons and then atari might be like we
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technically own those so nope our money
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or they could just say nope they all go to us i'm really interested to see what
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atari does or if they just do nothing i guess we'll have to see they might just
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do nothing i wouldn't be super surprised if they did nothing to be completely
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honest oh well we'll see i guess Android silver
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yeah let's move on to Android silver so let's do a twitter blitz soon i'm sorry
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should we do twitter soon sure about what i don't know we just haven't i don't think we did a twitter blitz the
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last two weeks okay why don't we just do a random one guys hit us at linustech on
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twitter let us know if you have anything
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fascinating to ask us or comment on anything that we've talked about so far
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we're going to do a twitter blitz in a little bit here all right so our next topic is Android silver it was posted
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originally on the Linus tech tips forum by red round two and then the source
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article was on Android authority so this
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is a report going around right now that the nexus
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program so you know the nexus 5 the nexus 7 you know i really did wonder
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what they were going to do when they ran out of screen sizes to make it bigger
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that would also correspond to increasingly
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model numbers that didn't seem like the greatest plan
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from the get-go it's just discontinued
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it's gone don't worry about it we're not using the word one at least we came up
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with something else imagine they did that
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that would be three different Android phones that would be called one silver
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one
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if they at least had the next iteration be a silver two
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so for two and like from there on i'd probably be
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okay with it when cell phones go down enough in price
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can we have the silver dollar
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i don't think that'll happen how about the uh how about the silver
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and sterling conflict
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you don't follow sports right not much oh do you know what's going on
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right now with the the the coach that just got fired no no the
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clippers owner oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i felt like i follow it enough yeah
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i just that's that's kind of the thing right now i i don't know i've been i
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actually had a really interesting conversation with uh with uh iago and
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the ncix tech tips crew when we were having lunch today
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and uh they brought up some interesting points what he says in the privacy of
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his own home no matter how foul and disgusting it is is not illegal
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um so to
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my conversation probably shouldn't have been leaked my thing is he's done way
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worse stuff in the past and and honestly
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like again because what he's done right now actually isn't illegal and and he's
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probably on the right side of of any law that could possibly exist
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to protect people who say things to people in public and then just have that
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turn into like a gigantic spiel he's probably on the right side of whatever
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that is but if you actually look at any of the media articles about this whole
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controversy right now people aren't even really going after him about
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the recording they're going after him for being an
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allegedly supremely foul human being
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and a lot of them well as far as i know he is i'm not entirely sure but just
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digging up a ton of the history and kind of going you know what this is just the
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cherry on top that we needed to catalyze
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what's going on right now because you're
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like the recording like again i don't like
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the fact that someone published a private recording i don't like that but
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then from what i've read he does seem like an extremely following movie and
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and i don't mean it's okay i don't like someone
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saying to someone i don't want you bringing a person of that ethnic
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persuasion no that is that is horrendous yes
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but um i also don't want that's
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even though it's wrong it's not illegal what happened
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you're you're it's not illegal to tell someone in private that like if i okay
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if i give you tickets to a play and i'm like look i don't want you bringing um
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say it correctly so this doesn't get taken out of context yeah i don't even i don't want you bringing a white person
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there that's probably the safest thing i can say don't bring any white people i'm
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allowed to say that it's not illegal because
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okay as your employer i probably can't say that but let's say it wasn't oh yeah
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you know i i disconnected that yeah yeah i just i still don't know
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and you could make the argument based on how old he is and the kind of
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relationship they probably had he might have been her employer so maybe
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it was wrong but that's a whole other ball of wax
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anyway i i don't remember where i was going with this anyway that's happening
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um the vga rating vga grader.com okay i'm
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jumping back to this because i don't want to talk about racist old guys
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anymore um but yeah see they put it in this jewel point at your screen i know
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they can't see it but i'm trying to show you really quickly they put it in a jewel case and they put it they stamp a
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rating on it it costs like a hundred bucks so it's basically
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gia except for games vga rating vgg
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vgg rating dot reader vgg raider substituting yeah okay raider
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oh bing is so useless okay here oh oh good
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they're screen sharing with me already so vggrating.com brings up g detox plus
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herbal capsule um okay
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so vgg raider all right google no i'm
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going to try searching for that i'm going to see if google manages to bring
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up what i'm actually looking for
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it's like you know what i give i give
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bing a chance time and time again i give bing a chance
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did you use uh Windows updates to download the bing desktop and bing
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toolbar no that's so frustrating
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no i didn't i'm like i'm actually looking for Windows upgrades i keep
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giving bing a chance and like okay
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i don't use google because i'm married to google and love google my love for
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google skin deep it works it's a it's a working relationship i
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tried to go to duckduckgo and then i was like this doesn't really work me and google we do our best here
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and we we fight through the problems but you stay together but we stay together
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man yeah bing because it's the default on
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internet explorer and i reinstall operating systems so often
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i often am lazy about installing my alternate browsers and i'll use ie and
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the default will be bing for a while and the only time i actually turn around
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and like get off my lazy butt and install my alternate browsers that i'll
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use google as a default is when bing just can't find anyone that
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does something like that when it does something like this look at those bing
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results okay office of quality of performance ssa.gov
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some patent for flame laminate polyether urethane
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i mean they're not even close genetics
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diamondbring.com and like what is this does that say fellatio book
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oh teleco book sorry how did you possibly i'm not they have books about
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that anyway do you have an idiot's guide v
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g grader.com so google managed to find it
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bing did not and that is incredibly disappointing anyway why don't we
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actually get onto our next topic here so from Android authority the nexus program
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retiring next year Android silver allegedly to take its place so what
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Android silver is going to be is a bit of a of a mishmash of the nexus program
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so nexus the idea was they support the phone with software for two years
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correct i believe i don't think there was a cap
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on it i believe there was there was well there was a guarantee yeah i think
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there's a minimum yeah let us know in the chat if you guys can uh if you guys
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can remember how long nexus devices get so anyway so a nexus device has to be
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this it has to be at an aggressive price it has to be from a well-established
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manufacturer and uh it has to be stock
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vanilla Android then on the other side we've got google
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play edition devices so we saw this with the htc one the galaxy s4 and we've seen
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it again with the htc one m8 in the galaxy s5 but what's interesting to me
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about silver is that i really think it takes the best of both worlds because
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right now you've got those play edition devices which for the htc one m8 for
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example the one that i think people should be buying if they're buying a play edition device the htc one m8 it's
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extremely expensive if silver could take the concept of play
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edition that is to say and what's cool about the play edition phones that are
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coming out now is how they come with
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basically stock Android but all of those cool
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vendor created customizations that can be added within a special subset of the
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play store so i love that approach i think that's
26:37
great but if that could meet nexus halfway and be implemented instead of
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only on flagship devices that you have to pay full pop out of pocket for
26:48
i forget where that sentence started if that could be instead of on just
26:52
flagship devices that you have to pay full pop for if we could see that on
26:55
mid-range devices or and this is the other big bomb
26:59
carrier subsidized devices i think that's an incredibly positive thing
27:03
because the cold hard truth and phone enthusiasts
27:07
get over yourself not everyone
27:12
buys a phone outright
27:15
some people lock into a contract because quite
27:19
frankly who cares you're going to pay
27:22
your carrier anyway yeah
27:26
it's not like you get a huge discount with a lot of carriers even if you say
27:30
no to the phone they make you lock into a contract anyways
27:33
at least here in canada yeah i don't know elsewhere but so so
27:38
especially the tier one carriers a lot of the like tier two carriers you can
27:42
just do like basically pay as you go yeah but but you're good i mean you're
27:45
gonna you're gonna pay for a phone contract anyway
27:49
so who cares not everyone upgrades their phone every year not everyone roots
27:54
their device so for some people
27:57
being able to get a high-end device for 199 on contract with a phone plan that
28:03
they're gonna buy anyway is great so if we can have Android silver fill
28:09
that gap by giving us more mid-range devices that deliver a basically stock
28:14
google experience um where this is this is not quite like the google play
28:18
edition one so the idea is that a silver device will come with the customizations
28:21
off it but you can remove basically all of them yeah as opposed to coming
28:25
without them but you can add them i'm totally okay with that what a fantastic
28:29
middle ground yeah silver sounds amazing and one thing i really like is that um
28:34
just i think you kind of already said this but the the subsidizing google is
28:38
going to subsidize it and help make it cheap because i'm in a weird position
28:41
right now well the rumor is google may subsidize the phones oh okay i thought
28:45
it was a natural thing so rumor i think this is all rumors so far right okay
28:49
yeah yeah um i'm in a weird spot because i'm done my contract but just sitting
28:55
still paying the contract your carrier is a bunch of terrible people as well
28:58
i'm not going to name anyone really bad so i'm looking to switch but then
29:02
there's possibly new plans coming out so i don't want to switch right now so i can't get a subsidized phone in that way
29:06
i don't have a phone right now i don't want to buy one because if i
29:10
bought one then i'm gonna probably buy nexus five but then why wouldn't i wait
29:14
for one plus one which is coming out soon which might be
29:18
good which might be good but who knows they're an unproven manufacturer at this
29:22
point so i'm in a really weird spot
29:25
so i'm happy to see things speaking of really weird spots you just said you
29:28
don't have a phone but i think you do
29:32
show us your phone oh okay
29:35
so i don't even want to show it so this is Linus's old iphone 4. so
29:41
so i don't even have working yet luke was like uh oh hey um yo dawg could i
29:46
borrow the uh the moto x and i was like ah you know i might switch to the moto x
29:51
at some point plus it's got a nano sim and you have a micro set that's easy to
29:55
fix but and you know what guys okay twitch chat
29:58
back me up on this because what i've heard is that cutting down from micro to
30:03
nano there's actually a lot more room for error than there is cutting down
30:08
from full size sim to micro for example because the the plastic is so close to
30:12
the contact so i didn't recommend that he do that especially because his
30:16
terrible carrier charges him ten dollars for a new sim
30:20
whereas mine i walked into the store i was like yo i got a new phone they're like yo you need a new sim
30:25
let me set that up for you his carrier is the one that i'm trying to move to i'm just waiting for new plans and they
30:30
didn't even set up your new sim for you no you had to like call right so yeah
30:34
because on the website when i try to set it up for myself um it was a locked off portals like you
30:39
do not have permission to do this i was like why is the button even there if
30:43
it's if i can't do it whereas my carrier it's like here are the two phones and
30:47
they like they like take the sim out for me put it
30:50
in the other phone they make all the calls then like he hands it back to me
30:53
he's like oh hold on hold on uh what's your number and he does like a test call
30:57
from his own cell phone to make sure it's worked i'm like yo man you're
31:01
awesome yeah you're cool as much as i hate giving you all of my money at least
31:06
you're trying to make me not feel terrible if they make the experience not
31:10
horrible i'd be happier paying the same amount that i'm gonna pay someone else
31:14
to them because i'm gonna i'm paying my carrier
31:18
whoever they are i hate your kids the same amount that you would be everything
31:22
about your carrier my 500 megabyte data every month fall in oh people are
31:27
asking i'm on bell so uh bell bell canada from my experience has been one
31:33
of the two lesser of all of the evils and i used to be on rogers and they
31:37
weren't bad either so i think that leaves one
31:42
yeah pretty much yeah so people can probably figure it out now so for the
31:46
first time ever luke is going to be using an iphone i
31:49
have no idea what i'm doing until he de-cheapifies enough to buy a phone and
31:54
that is going to be an interesting experience and you know what it's funny
31:58
because the timing is going to be really good because i recently switched back to
32:01
iOS i've been using an iphone 5s for the
32:05
last wow but you're happy about a week and a half i don't even like i can't do
32:09
anything i know but it's a learning experience okay so no hold on hold on
32:12
this is important for you i switched back to the iphone 5s not because i'm
32:17
unhappy with the one m8 i've seen a couple people notice that i pulled out a
32:21
5s in the middle of my videos i love the 1m8 fantastic phone i switched back to
32:26
the 5s because i think the upcoming iphone 6 is going to be absolutely
32:30
groundbreaking why does pressing the little button not
32:33
turn the screen on oh it did uh it's glitchy it's broken oh yeah you gotta
32:37
press it pretty hard okay yeah sorry i should have told you that um so i think
32:42
the upcoming iphone 6 with its larger screen size is going to be
32:45
groundbreaking not not because a larger screen is innovative but because apple's
32:49
going to have to make some serious changes to iOS in order to make a larger
32:54
screen size work just little things like for example
32:57
within apps the standard placement for
33:01
back is at the very top left corner of the screen which i think for people who
33:05
have normal sized hands isn't a problem right now but when you go and throw that
33:09
design onto a much larger phone they're going to start having the same problem
33:13
people like me with little hands have where in order to go back within an app
33:17
you're going to have to shift your your grip on your phone and people are going
33:21
to drop a lot of iphones unless they change that design so so i wanted to
33:25
refresh myself on iOS again
33:28
before i jump into the iphone 6 and it's
33:32
also it's also been exactly a year when i did my htc one m8 review was
33:37
basically one year from when i switched to Android so i wanted to go back for a
33:40
refresher and you know see how iOS has evolved in
33:44
the last little while so it was it was for a reason that i was doing that and so this i think is important for you to
33:49
actually get some perspective on the other side because i'm going to be doing
33:53
a review of the 5s i know i'm super late i don't care but the point is not going
33:57
to be the 5s the point is going to be i switched back to iOS what was it like
34:02
and the conclusion just to spoil it for you guys is you know what it's not that
34:06
bad there's stuff i miss about Android and there's stuff i'm gonna miss about iOS
34:11
when i switch back to Android siri is so much better than google now that it's
34:14
not even funny and make whatever arguments you want you're wrong siri is
34:19
better than google now right now that will change in the future in all
34:22
likelihood some of your claims were wrong i have a some of them were right i
34:26
have and the actual experience of using it is better i do
34:31
like the fingerprint thing too the fingerprint unlock
34:34
is really well implemented is it a bulletproof piece of security hardware
34:39
no no no it's nice and fast though but it's
34:43
very convenient um so so there's things i'm gonna miss about iOS but um at the
34:48
end of the day the conclusion that i came to is you know what it's trade-offs
34:51
one way or the other and i think if someone just put a gun to your head as
34:56
an Android lover or as an iOS lover and said use the other one for a year for
35:01
the first couple weeks or months you'd be like
35:07
and then you'd be fine it would be fine you wouldn't die that's
35:11
the point you wouldn't die
35:16
that took a lot longer
35:20
now people might watch the video though because they're gonna be able to get that in a more formalized form and for
35:25
even longer yeah and the conclusion
35:29
will be the same yeah but i do make some more specific points
35:33
i actually have a pretty long bullet list it's going to be it's going to be i
35:37
think a pretty interesting video someone suggested that i buy a 3310 can you even
35:40
buy those still is that possible i don't think so it
35:44
wouldn't maybe used and how could you get one on a carrier the battery would
35:47
be super poopy yeah i don't think you would need the carrier subsidy
35:53
watch them pay you to take it like here's here's 50 cash if you take this
35:58
phone on a plan that's fine same same plan cost though because it's my carrier
36:02
so they wouldn't you know what hold on
36:05
that was amazing time my phone just started it's tell us
36:10
what hold on i think that's who it is
36:13
that's them right yeah
36:17
what answer and answer no no that's
36:20
right come on come on no you have to that'll be amazing no i
36:24
don't want to talk to telus it's probably their customer set okay
36:27
it's probably the customer set up hello
36:33
hello
36:37
oh no it's ups it's ups uh okay oh i think telus is 310 not 210. that's a
36:42
really close anyway okay okay okay
36:45
i think you just stumbled on
36:48
actually a brilliant idea which really really low-end phones with
36:52
cashback yes so a recycling program for
36:56
phones imagine okay like there's so many
37:00
different facets of this so the carrier can probably get some kind of
37:04
governmental credit probably for implementing a regimen like this okay
37:10
um it all of a sudden opens up more premium
37:15
carriers to people who can't afford a phone at all or are even a little bit
37:19
tight on cash if you go okay look we had someone trade in this phone
37:25
or whatever and we will not only hand
37:28
you this phone to use but we're gonna give you two months credit if you lock
37:32
in for like six months tell you what just give us a try we're
37:37
going to be making our money back because we're going to lock you in for a
37:40
very short period of time subsidize at some point or something we're going to make this super accessible for everyone
37:45
we're going to have a positive environmental impact and what the way
37:48
that phone hardware is not changing in the same way that it used to the one m8
37:52
is faster than the one m7 but not the way the one m7 was faster than the
37:55
previous flagship like it's slowing down yeah how brilliant is that
38:00
you actually subsidize people to take
38:03
used phones and use them that does kind of make sense because i know a lot of
38:07
people that get rid of phones that are still working and like trade-in level
38:11
get rid of like not not even trying to sell it or anything like that because
38:14
like uh what am i trying to think of right now samsung s3s at t apparently gives you
38:20
store credit on your recycled phone i don't even uh what what about not store
38:24
credit what about the other way around someone on that phone yeah
38:28
because that's not solving the store credit isn't solving the recycling problem which is i think the main reason
38:33
why Linus is excited is the the recycling problem you're
38:36
giving people these phones that would just end up landfilled or
38:40
yeah because i don't know how much of a phone you can actually properly recycle
38:43
yeah so i want them to just like hand you a phone and cash
38:47
that's how i want it to work and you can like go buy a burger with your cash if
38:51
you really want to if you're willing to lock into a very short term i think that
38:54
would be really neat yeah i don't expect it to be a ton of money or me i liked
38:57
what you said about the what we'll pay your first two months kind of idea yeah
39:01
or something like that yeah like that's actually pretty cool you can get a phone
39:04
you don't have to pay for it for a while the phone is free imagine if carriers
39:07
were confident enough in their service that they were willing to offer a try
39:11
before you buy
39:14
maybe this is just a fantastic i would i would only be scared of people running
39:17
away with the phones but then if you're doing like low-end used phones
39:20
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is that hulu is cracking down on vpn users in general
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has there been an update to that i don't know if there's been an update to that but that was definitely a thing yeah i
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don't think netflix wasn't a part of that netflix wasn't part of that so you can definitely still use a lot of video
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streaming services with hotspot shield you can decide oh i want to be from
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guys do give it a try i've had people try it and say hey lioness it's load down my internet
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like you don't use hot spot shield when you're gaming it's a one button to turn
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will be terrible because you are intentionally redirecting all of the
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it goes to wherever it needs to go i mean the server could be down the street from you you could normally get like
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three millisecond pings and and you're redirecting it to like the uk and back
41:54
the amount of people that are convinced that i i play counter strike in valve
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headquarters is amazing because i somehow get five ping when playing
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counter-strike right so everyone's just like oh my god if i'm ping and i'm like
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yeah i'm on land i'm at valve hq like whoa cool i've convinced so many people
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could you get a slightly better value for your dollar with a gaming desktop in
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terms of sheer FPS per money spent out of your pocket yes but the point is that
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inside here i mean we've known forever
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that the m version is not the same
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no as the not m version that goes in a desktop machine but what we've never
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seen before is only a one generational gap
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between the m version and the desktop version
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this is almost equivalent other than the memory clock speed to a gtx 770 so
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you're getting a very satisfactory gaming experience in recent titles like
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bioshock infinite battlefield 4 on a notebook because it's actually clocked
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at almost the same speed as a 770 desktop card which if you guys remember
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is about equivalent to a gtx 680 so
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that's only flagship wise one end and an
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increment because we got the 780 and then the 780 ti so like one increment
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and then one full generation back from a current flagship desktop card which i
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think is really really cool it also runs cool enough that we can actually survive
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this show with them on our lap yeah they're actually not bad no sweat marks
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on the bottom i've i've had laptops before that if like because i'm wearing
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shorts right now you're wearing jeans so you might have survived but like it's sitting on my bare knees and if it was
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yeah yeah uh one thing that i want to bring up really quickly i don't have this as a
44:39
topic because one i don't live in the states in two this is a very deep topic
44:42
and i don't have time to fully research it but fcc chairman whatever his name is
44:46
something wheeler people are trying to get him kicked out because he's doing a whole bunch of bull
44:50
crap and there's stuff going on so if you live in the states and you're
44:53
interested in net neutrality and all that kind of stuff maybe do some research on fcc chairman tom wheeler
44:59
someone just said it in the chat yeah chat is so useful except when it's just
45:03
a bunch of nonsense yeah and like gets me angry calls from sponsors about how
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like our content is obscene yeah all right so
45:12
let's go ahead and do that twitter blitz we promised you guys professor nick butler can you comment on
45:17
a hypothetical Corsair RGB keyboard release date oh man
45:21
i'm sorry i can't what i will tell you
45:25
is that i okay they didn't show off RGB at pax
45:31
no but i believe they are planning to show
45:34
it at computex that is all that i know i know that
45:39
barrington one of the watchers of the wine show and the after party has
45:42
apparently won one of them they had that contest thing going on really so he's
45:46
getting it whenever it comes out i guess so barrington will probably be a good
45:50
person to ask because when he or she him
45:53
him when he gets his tracking number well
45:57
we'll know yeah we'll know that either Corsair is shipping him a brick
46:02
watch oh my god that would be the best troll ever if they shipped everyone like membrane
46:06
keyboards and they're like you can use these until the new one shows up is just
46:10
a trick would that be like a good viral
46:13
thing okay like remember when microsoft did the whole like uh xbox one in the
46:18
shark tank thing yeah if it turned out that that xbox was
46:22
actually full of like lizard on trails or something like is that funny or is
46:27
that just them like like does that get
46:30
i think the sharks would eat it right
46:33
okay let's just move on in portugal carrier locked and no contract a bunch
46:37
of phone pricing in dollars that probably i can't relate to oh that looks
46:42
like corrected is that us lg g2 for 622 isn't that cheap
46:48
no that galaxy s5 for 900 bucks actually
46:51
i'm gonna do my thoughts on the galaxy s5 as well as the gear fit later on in
46:54
the show so how much did g2s cost then uh i don't know less than that i think
46:59
any chance biosubject for example that devil's canyon k
47:02
cpus will work on d87 motherboards and if not why um i doubt it um often aside
47:09
from updating the chipset even when there's no socket change Intel will
47:13
update the electrical specifications of the socket to be capable of things like
47:18
tighter voltage regulation for example so a lot of the time you'll get newer
47:22
motherboards so for example very late lga 775 motherboards could
47:28
work with almost every previous lga 775
47:31
CPU but then the later lga 775 cpus were
47:35
like barely backwards compatible if at all and that that was probably the best
47:39
example of a very long-lasting socket whose compatibility actually
47:44
forward and backward wasn't very strong so it's 650 bucks
47:49
are you gonna make a video about the april updates to shield uh there is some
47:52
really cool stuff i had not planned on a dedicated video we have talked about
47:55
them on WAN Show before apparently something about a recipe from
48:00
canada thank you barnacles silver makes me wonder what the gold
48:03
tier would be if they add one you know what i don't think there's any rumored
48:08
gold tier i think the the the Android program is just called silver
48:13
but who knows i guess they're leaving themselves flexibility up and down
48:17
yeah seriously platinum deer will you guys ever come to
48:21
dreamhack we're not really planning on it right
48:24
now but that's not to say that anything's impossible yeah watching lan show on a toilet
48:32
okay touch screens are the work of the devil
48:36
we've we've gotten off topic a little bit something about not liking maple
48:40
syrup barnacles get off my twitter feed
48:43
i don't even know if that guy's watching in sweden there's a 14-day free trial
48:48
for phones and contracts can only be used once per person but it's great why
48:51
is sweden so progressive about everything because they're awesome
48:55
and they're from scandinavian scandinavia is awesome um i'm in a
48:59
dilemma you can't cameras i think the 12 hertz thing is a troll from the new egg
49:04
guys ah because our equipment is so much better
49:09
than theirs and the skill the operators using them
49:13
and the people in front of them i know everything about our operations is just
49:18
vastly superior you know what's funny you know what's funny is they were
49:21
closing in on the ncix tech tips channel in terms of subscribers like they were
49:26
they got really close and then all of a sudden a completely untrained group of
49:31
people came into the nci ex tech tips
49:34
of whom there are about a third as many as the newegg tv team and then with me
49:38
coming in like five hours a week they took off again
49:43
and now they're growing way faster than new egg tv again so you know if we oh
49:47
that's the new paul eat it kyle eat it
49:51
joanne you're not there anymore but you can eat it too steve was steve can eat
49:55
it what i mean steve can eat something pleasant
49:58
like cake yeah there we go but he can still eat it actually paul's really nice
50:02
too but still still eat it eat it uh most companies second second-hand
50:07
phones to emerging countries and send yeah yeah that's that's i actually had
50:11
no idea that's pretty cool yeah i'm aware of that but it's usually like
50:14
super old crappy stuff like what i would like to see is a program more like hey
50:19
here's the last gen one that's like i'm saying like threes yeah stuff like that or whatever
50:25
it seems i've been banned from talking about 12 hertz master race yeah that sounds about right
50:29
um sasktel will give you 250 for anything including their tv internet and
50:34
phone but that's got to be like if you sign up for a new one that's not helping
50:38
the recycling thing again this transitions well into one of our topics
50:42
we're actually going to be talking about google class as bond cost being 80 so
50:45
why don't we why don't we move on to our next topic for now
50:50
what do we have well next is the heartbleed criminal
50:53
data thing and then something something something i'm so
50:57
excited about harrison ford and mark hamill and carrie fisher
51:02
and like ah everyone's gonna be in the new movie i just hope they don't screwed
51:06
up you know
51:09
with all the stuff see this is why it scares me with everything that i've seen
51:13
so far it looks awesome with everything
51:16
that i had seen at a certain point in time with elder
51:19
scrolls online it looks awesome and now i won't touch it or even be within a
51:23
vicinity of it because it's disgusting in my personal opinion if you like it
51:27
i'm sorry but i don't like it okay well okay just let's all just back
51:31
up first there's a high possibility of things screwing up kingdom of the
51:35
crystal skull poopy you know i think it could have been good
51:40
but george lucas was involved
51:43
and therefore yeah um now
51:46
the whole throwing out the expanded universe thing i i have mixed feelings
51:51
on because there was a lot of stuff from the expanded universe that was quite
51:54
frankly a hundred times better than anything
51:57
in that was canon really good a lot of it was fantastic i i do see that even
52:04
though they've thrown it out they it's not like they haven't left in the
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possibility to adopt parts of it
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which i think is great but to me it's a little bit frustrating
52:16
that they that they basically went okay no the whole thing is scrapped and they
52:20
kind of just they all that's all they've told us when there is so much lore that is so
52:26
plausible and so good and really doesn't need to be reimagined
52:30
that they could have just left alone but right now i think what is it clone
52:35
wars tv show which i i saw a little bit of once and
52:39
holy cow was it ever terrible i never watched it clone wars animated
52:44
series prequels and then the three original movies means that of the body
52:48
of work that is now considered canon most of it isn't very good
52:52
yeah that's why i'm scared which is a real shame but like they do they are
52:56
lining up the right things like you said they have the actors back and so as far
53:01
as i've heard so far um ford is like the
53:04
main focus is he not i don't know han solo i'm not sure as
53:08
far as i've heard he's the main focus of the movie which actually could be kind
53:13
of good i don't i don't know i mean okay i uh
53:17
maybe and maybe this is me being kind of crazy but i would actually like for
53:22
episode seven to be the last time we see
53:25
mark hamill carrie fisher harrison yeah but it could be a really good transition
53:29
like they could introduce new characters with it or do something i mean
53:34
one possibility and i'd love it if this is what they're doing i don't i don't
53:37
know what they're doing i mean what i would love to see because they are they
53:41
have a system like they have a team of people that are dedicated to curating
53:45
content and making it deciding what's canon and what's not what i would love
53:49
to see them do is actually skip a bunch
53:53
again because if you look at the original at the original first movie you have to do
53:57
yeah but but like skip skip a lot oh oh
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yeah so actually create an intermediary story that could easily be filled in by
54:06
having the original people do voice acting for example for digital
54:10
representations of themselves so through video games or or through animated
54:15
series series because even if their voice is gonna sound a little bit older it'll be
54:20
easier to portray that on a younger character and that would be believable and you can do a whole lot with
54:25
editing with editing and so so i mean that's what i would like to see them do
54:28
because you look at even the original three movies there's a there's a pretty significant chunk of time
54:33
between even those movies it's like the rebellion goes from existing on like
54:39
yavin 4 like that's the entire rebel
54:42
alliance to like all of a sudden now they've got a fleet and then like all of
54:46
a sudden well now they have like a badass fleet and like salmon piloting
54:50
their ships and they can win a major battle yeah so
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there's a lot of room here for a lot of the expanded universe stuff to still
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work if they skip forward enough
55:03
if you see what i mean yeah no i actually definitely agree with that i like that idea they've already done it
55:07
once so like i don't think anyone's gonna protest too much
55:11
so that's what i want but i i don't know i don't know i just i
55:16
i don't want to get my hopes up too much because exactly i i used to be
55:21
a pretty hardcore star wars buff like knew everything i think compared to the
55:26
vast majority of people you still would be so
55:29
i just i really want it to be good i loved what abrams did with star trek yep
55:35
really liked it for sure but i was never a huge star trek guy i was never a
55:40
trekkie i think we were both on the star wars bandwagon more than this so the
55:44
potential here for me to be disappointed is it's like phantom menace all over
55:48
again potentially i really don't think abrams could make a movie that i don't think so
55:53
which is like that helps a lot and the actors coming in helps a lot and
55:58
everything that i've gotten so far helps a lot i'm just still trying to disengage
56:02
as much as i can i mean okay okay the one part of me is like who's in florida
56:07
but then one part of me too is like the fact that they brought in all of them
56:11
were either gonna end up with this weird like fan service thing where they bring
56:15
them in just to give them like a little bit of screen time or we're gonna end up
56:19
with this thing where they give them way too much screen time and it just doesn't make any sense because they're all
56:23
decrepit now i wouldn't mind just like closures on certain parts like like fan
56:28
service but like closure that makes sense or
56:32
flashback style stuff what if like movie number one opening scene
56:36
they kill luke skywalker how do you feel about that what if mark
56:40
hamill comes back in for just long enough to say there is another sky walk
56:45
up and dies like if they do it in a way
56:48
that makes sense i would be okay with it because i mean i think there's a lot of
56:51
potential for us to see an obi-wan kenobi type role for him yeah where
56:57
maybe okay maybe they don't kill them in the opening scene but i think there's a lot of potential for i definitely i
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don't mind uh especially when it's been this long
57:05
like because okay i have to draw this in sorry everyone but firefly people have
57:10
talked about
57:14
that was awkward yeah people have talked about um firefly sequels and what could
57:18
possibly happen if they brought into season two and all kinds of stuff in the past so i've seen some of this
57:22
theorizing and you kind of need to either kill people
57:26
yeah or move them off to the side in some way yeah or get rid of them or just
57:31
put them in weird auxiliary auxiliary roles or something like that maybe keep
57:34
one or two but you can't necessarily keep the whole group because people will have grown up and changed and their
57:39
acting styles can change how how their mannerisms work can change and it won't
57:43
feel the same so but if they moved him into like you had just said um
57:48
a obi-wan kenobi type role i actually think that could work really well
57:52
someone just said they can't kill luke because he exists in a lot of the expanded universe stuff and not all of
57:56
it was scrapped except if they skipped forward far enough to his death then
57:59
there's plenty of time to fill in the intermediary stuff which is what he was saying before which is exactly what i
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was talking about yeah um anyway so moving on to our next actual topic
58:08
because i don't know how we ended up talking about that i actually was going
58:12
to ask you how we got there i i don't remember no clue dylan's delons will
58:17
know shout out to delons we never do that he
58:20
actually does the timetable that goes in the archive on youtube shout out to
58:24
ghost because the doc yeah because helping us work on the doc we actually
58:27
have some pretty cool community helpers helping us with the show it helps with the land show a lot lately pretty
58:32
fantastic people overall all right so let's talk about this article on bbc
58:36
heartbleed used to uncover data from cyber criminals
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are you a crime middle are you a criminal
58:44
i'm not a criminal you don't get the reference it's okay i
58:48
only hate you a little bit for not getting it is that all right spaceballs go ahead
58:52
i'm not sure um so heartbleed has apparently been used to track down black
58:56
hat hackers black hat hackers are like the ones that are maliciously trying to
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hurt people like steal credit card data and all that kind of stuff gray hat is
59:04
when they kind of float on both sides and white hat is when people are trying
59:07
to hack but for the greater good um so
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they've been using this to access closed forums such as dark ode and damage lab
59:17
and according to wired smart devices such as home routers cctv cameras baby
59:22
monitors and home management gadgets were now known to be vulnerable
59:29
i always feel such awkwardly on the fence with this kind of stuff because
59:33
it's like i don't want you guys to use this to track people
59:36
but then you stopped bad people potentially but that's the whole argument
59:42
that's how the nsa starts monitoring us yeah
59:46
bad people i wouldn't be surprised is why this article even came out in the
59:50
first place because they're like no we're not terrible so just
59:55
remember that when listening to this article or if you read it later or
59:59
anything like well no this was anti-malware researchers after hartley
60:02
was exposed i think yes yeah so i don't know so they were
60:06
using it to track people
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i don't know i could make terrible analogies i'm not going to bother of any things that exist that you could use in
60:17
bad ways and that doesn't mean that government entities should be able to go
60:21
around the law to be able to use them and all kind of stuff
60:25
and also cyber law is really confusing and weird anyways and a lot of it
60:29
doesn't even exist can you break the law to stop lawbreakers
60:33
it's i mean it's you can turn this into a whole long
60:36
conversation about capital punishment yeah can you murder someone to stop
60:40
murdering this is a really big topic right now isn't it yeah it's a huge deal because
60:44
of the lethal injection like yeah and then they screw what's
60:47
going on right now so the supplier of what they were using
60:52
for lethal injections and this is all paraphrasing my wife's been following it really closely because she's a
60:56
pharmacist so the the drug aspect of all this is fascinating to her because
61:00
pharmacists anyway those things are interesting i
61:03
guess uh so so the drug supplier that was supplying the the drugs for lethal
61:08
injections was getting threatened to the point where they were like okay look
61:12
we're not going to supply it anymore so they had to source alternate drugs from
61:16
alternate sources that they were keeping secret and then basically what was
61:20
happening was you were supposed to do one drug and then another one and then
61:23
there was a collapsed vein somewhere in the mix and the first drug is supposed
61:27
to make the patient
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victim um
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prisoner
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uh anyway the person the cute the sure executed thank you um cutie
61:43
it doesn't really work you can't spell execute e without cutie um so so
61:48
supposed to make them unconscious and then the subsequent injection or
61:52
injections were supposed to do the deed so to speak but there have been cases
61:56
where they appear to be trying to get out of the chair
62:00
which would imply that the pain that they're undergoing is also accompanied
62:04
by some level of consciousness so
62:07
i actually don't understand how we got on this topic again anyway that's like a
62:11
huge deal right now people were also wondering if it was intentional i really
62:16
don't know the details of the story very well this was not a planned discussion
62:19
so sorry if i'm wrong but apparently he took a very long prolonged time to kill
62:24
someone so like watched them suffer so people
62:28
were like well maybe someone set it up so that he was suffering
62:33
which like i don't know it all starts to sound like
62:36
a movie plot it does which is part of the problem which isn't to say that that
62:40
movie won't be based on a true story of what's happening right now yeah
62:44
again i i don't i just like i might have heard this on the radio i don't even
62:48
remember where i got it from this was not a planned topic sorry if i'm wrong i could definitely be wrong don't take
62:52
that as um that's about as disclaimed as
62:55
anything has ever been ever yeah exactly yeah so huge thanks to rainfall within
62:59
for posting the heartbleed cybercriminal thing on the forum that's what we were
63:03
talking about um apple iwatch production has allegedly begun and this was posted
63:08
by alex goes high thank you very much for that original article is from next
63:12
powerup so we're gonna go ahead and head over there this is a concept by the way
63:17
this is not actually what it's going to look like
63:21
fortunately because i don't wouldn't buy that so the china times has reported
63:25
that apple has gone into production so the rumor is that during the first
63:30
quarter of product availability there's going to be anywhere from two and a half to three and a half million units of
63:35
iwatch so that's in q2 and in the second quarter production is rumored to be
63:41
going to leap to 14 to 15 million units
63:44
i plan to buy one i plan to try it
63:48
and i will see what i think about it is there is there plans for like a
63:52
blackberry watch and a Windows watch i i know microsoft microsoft has
63:57
acknowledged the wearable market i don't know that there's an actual plan okay or
64:00
anything i think something interesting that we could do is a whole ecosystem
64:04
comparison video right get our hands on a Windows phone actually nokia has
64:07
offered to send us a Windows phone to try out i actually need to get back to them um because i would definitely do
64:12
that if you are ingrained in an ecosystem so you have their watch you
64:15
have their phone you have their os how well does it all work together how not
64:20
necessarily comparing like the os because we know a lot of people
64:23
including myself and a lot of the viewers aren't going to like um os 10
64:27
but like comparing how well they sync together and all that stuff like if
64:32
there's if there's ihome or whatever like getting that kind of stuff too i think that could be pretty interesting
64:36
speaking of uh how well things within the same ecosystem work together i think
64:39
i'll use this as an opportunity to give my thoughts on the galaxy s5 so samsung
64:44
sent me a galaxy s5 as well as a gear
64:47
fit i didn't have long enough with them i only had them for about a week so i
64:50
didn't have long enough with them to do a full review but what i told samsung is
64:54
uh um okay sure send it to me for a week
64:58
i'm not gonna do a review but i'll talk about it on my show so um i'm just this
65:02
is just my here just to give you guys oh sorry just to give you guys some idea
65:06
this is what my notes look like before i turn it into a script that
65:10
makes any kind of sense they're not in any particular order these are just
65:14
notes that i make to myself as i observe them so i apologize if this is a little
65:17
bit disjointed um i was impressed that even though the plastickiness of the
65:22
galaxy series is still very much there the actual flex to the phone is much
65:26
less than the previous generation s4 and i don't think samsung got enough credit
65:30
for that they managed to make the phone a lot more rigid without actually making
65:35
it you know out of a solid piece of metal the same way that other premium
65:39
phone makers do which isn't to say that i necessarily think that justifies
65:43
making all your phones out of plastic but whatever um i hate the positioning
65:47
of the lock button directly opposed to volume
65:50
it just seems like nobody can get this right nobody can find two spots on a
65:55
phone to put volume and lock where you don't have to press all of them apple
66:00
gets it more right than most g2 yes apple gets it more right than most
66:05
because their buttons are stiff enough that you won't accidentally press them
66:08
when you're trying to press one or the other but on the galaxy s5 i was
66:13
constantly accidentally mashing the volume when i was trying to lock or
66:16
unlock the phone an issue i don't have nearly as much with the one because you
66:20
can wake it up by tapping on the screen another thing that the g2 which you
66:23
don't have anymore does really well back to the going back
66:27
to a hardware home button really felt like a step backwards um when i did my
66:32
1m8 review i talked about how i felt like it was a mixed bag
66:36
but i had never tried to go from my 1m7
66:39
to my 1m8 and then back to the 1m7 with its hardware buttons and what i realized
66:44
is that going back after having used the 1m8 for so long
66:49
really felt like a last generation implementation i've gotten used to them
66:54
now the extra width is more noticeable
66:58
than you would think due to the thicker edges so that's the width of the phone
67:02
physically itself i couldn't figure out what i was talking about until the end there um so
67:06
even though the htc one m8 is quite long in order to accommodate those boom sound
67:10
speakers i i really like the speakers i'm willing to make that trade-off and
67:14
on the s5 that width really made it challenging for me to use it because of
67:17
my small hands but um
67:21
the shape and all that basically it was not it was not easy for me to handle
67:24
compared to the one i made um with that said everyone's making fun of the
67:28
backing material on the s5 i like it it reminds me of the first gen nexus 7 and
67:33
i think it's great that's that grippiness is probably the one thing that made the phone somewhat manageable
67:39
for me because i really didn't find the shape that easy for me to hold the one
67:42
m8 by contrast especially the
67:46
titanium version the one that i have is quite slippery
67:50
another contrast between the one i made and the galaxy s5 is the crummy speaker
67:54
positioning it is so noticeable coming from a device with
67:59
front-facing speakers going to something like the iphone 5 with them bottom
68:03
mounted speakers or something like the galaxy s5 with that horrendous
68:08
rear-mounted speaker implementation that was one thing that i wanted to bring up
68:11
actually is you you scalded it slightly for the hardware home button yes do you
68:16
feel the same way about that one no the thing that i don't like about the i
68:21
because this button has other functionality even if it's just a
68:25
fingerprint reader okay and having the you know okay so
68:30
it's not the home button i guess that bothered me it was the multitasking and
68:33
the back because i like the way that things shift
68:37
around contextually when i rotate the phone whereas with this it's just one
68:40
button it's just always one button whereas if it's things that can actually
68:44
change a little bit and can indicate oh hey right now you're going to be lowering your keyboard versus right now
68:48
you're going to be going back within your program i like that and i've gotten
68:52
used to that right um anyway rear mounted speakers are
68:56
terrible they need to go away um
68:59
prompting about default oh oh this is good i originally had this down as a
69:03
really positive point about the phone because i had to look up not that long
69:06
ago how to unbind default applications
69:10
for actions within Android because it's pretty hidden samsung
69:14
this the when you actually bind something by default says hey here's how
69:17
you undo it and the only issue is it comes up every time
69:22
and i was like really like there's no go away there's probably a way to disable
69:26
the notification somewhere within the touchwiz settings but i was just i was
69:29
amazed because or something yeah but it came up every time um i don't mind
69:34
samsung's keyboard but like so many things in touch with i really feel like it takes up too much of the precious
69:38
screen real estate uh gesture based smartwatch waking is still terrible i
69:42
guess i'm shifting gears to the gear fit now so i the whole time i was using the
69:46
s5 i switched from my pebble to the gear fit and there are some things about it
69:50
that i like the screen is beautiful i think the industrial design is a lot
69:54
better than the pebble but gesture base waking is terrible and if you're gonna
70:00
have gesture-based waking make it a flick like pebble to turn on the
70:03
backlight don't make it this contrived thing
70:07
samsung had every opportunity to just make it so i can flick it or tap it in
70:11
order to see what's on the screen and they didn't do it it's just asinine and
70:16
the battery life on it is good enough that they should at least give you the
70:19
option because it lasted a good five or six days in the default scheme where the
70:22
screen was barely ever on and if it was on more often when i'm just waving
70:26
around and i only got two or three days out of it i could probably live with
70:31
that a lot more than i could you know having the screen on all the time and
70:35
having it get having only getting like one day out of it
70:39
um i understand the htc chin bar now
70:43
the back button on the s5 is so low that
70:47
it's actually uncomfortable to reach so having that chin bar on the one is a
70:52
more natural position for the hand versus trying to force your thumb and
70:56
contort it down here so as much as the chin bar was something i complained
71:00
about in my one m8 review a couple of things so number one is i get it now and
71:05
number two is when i complained about the unevenness of the keyboard in
71:09
landscape mode someone pointed out hey Linus if you just went this way then
71:12
you'd have your software contextual buttons moved to here and the chin bar
71:16
here and it would actually be centered again so
71:19
good design on the one i realize i'm bringing up a lot of good things about
71:23
the one m8 in my s5 impressions that's five review the one m8 love story
71:29
um i figured out what i don't like about touchwiz because it's really not that
71:33
slow anymore oh yeah so this was the note that goes along with that
71:36
information density thing information density is so low the stock messaging
71:40
app makes me crazy in spite of the larger screen and no on-screen buttons
71:45
there are actually fewer texts on screen compared to sense ui
71:50
why and i mean you look at the way that they've talked about some of the things
71:55
that they do how it's like old people optimized maybe that's what it is maybe
71:58
that's why i don't like it i like really high information density on my screen i
72:02
like to use the real estate because i can see just fine and i can i can press
72:06
things accurately but maybe touchwiz just isn't made for me if you if you're
72:10
on your samsung phone can you go to google default keyboard instead of the samsung keyboard yeah yeah yeah but that
72:16
doesn't change the fact that your text app just everything takes up too much space
72:21
yeah and and you can get a different text app too of course but why load it
72:24
with these things it's in my well not for this one but it's in my default
72:28
download programs for another one a custom text app so um text size scaling
72:32
doesn't even help much because in things like the settings menu um ui elements
72:37
are still huge they don't resize only the labels do right right uh i love the idea of the
72:42
gear fit i hate the gesture thing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the strap
72:46
on the gear fit is janky it's not that easy to put on it's actually did i show
72:50
it to you it's just two little nubbins that go into the other side there's no
72:53
actual like like just go with the tried and true on
72:57
that one like why i like i understood with the original galaxy gear they
73:02
wanted to put like a camera and a microphone and it's like okay i don't agree with you but i understand what
73:06
you're doing with the gear fit just put a watch strap
73:09
on it don't reinvent the wheel this is
73:13
literally like like that is the most perfect use of don't reinvent the wheel
73:17
that i have ever managed to come up with
73:20
you're in reinventing something that's been around for hundreds of years and is
73:24
tried and true it attaches here and here
73:27
and clasps here that is all
73:30
um oh yeah and the the uh the vertical
73:35
design of the of the gear fit is terrible because most of the schemes for
73:39
it are right side up like this
73:43
there's two watch faces for it that are right side up like this and once again
73:47
information density they don't take advantage of all that screen real estate
73:52
what i would like to see is time here weather here the date here and like use
73:56
up all that space instead it just puts like massive tall numbers like this i'm
74:02
just like so you're gonna have to you're gonna have to do your like huh
74:05
yeah it's gonna be like a like a martial arts
74:09
like training
74:12
club secretly
74:16
secretly the koreans are building an army
74:21
oh my goodness um that'd be epic don't
74:25
do the nod thing the setup process for the gear is great when you pair it the
74:28
app just installs automatic jiggly automagically i think that's fantastic
74:32
there's no share to youtube by default in the gallery on the s5 what which for
74:36
a youtuber like me is just infuriating and you know what within the youtube app
74:41
on iOS you can't just upload you can only upload to youtube from the gallery
74:45
so i'm just like how are these things so broken so that'll be something from my iphone
74:50
5s review right i think that is pretty much it that
74:56
those are my thoughts on the galaxy s5 i really don't think the build quality is
74:59
as bad as people are making it out to be it's just that the industry has moved on
75:04
and samsung's small improvement is not
75:07
enough when you compare it to sony's latest phones htc's latest phones and
75:12
anything apple's made in the last since the iphone 4 i guess so in like the last
75:17
four or five years right all right speaking of phones this is so
75:21
fantastic i love it oh yeah yeah this is
75:24
really cool you gotta go back up when you're done this one okay but yeah i
75:28
don't even think i care that much about that bluetooth ring i just want to talk about uh
75:32
the the creation that ghost and i came up with which we both think is vastly
75:35
superior sure um okay so this is the pie phone it was
75:39
created by a software engineer really cool
75:42
so cool so it's made out of a raspberry pi here do you want to walk because i
75:46
got this playing for them sure uh so it's made of a raspberry pi a
75:50
touchscreen which he gives the name of inside the video a 2
75:55
500 milliamp hour lipo battery uh gsm
75:59
gprs module and the total cost is around 158 dollars that being said
76:04
he just like got it working yeah these are zip ties yeah like like
76:10
yeah like literally it's zip tied together i think this is
76:13
more of a like look this works you can do this not necessarily this is the best
76:18
possible situation there's also some issues one of the reasons why it's not
76:21
in a case is because without heat sinks on it the thing gets really hot and if
76:25
it was actually in an enclosed case you might have problems with it so
76:30
like it's not there yet right now it only supports calling so he shows here
76:34
he actually does call someone unfortunately the number shows on screen and now it's blowing up but i love
76:39
engineers because check this out he built a cell phone
76:43
and then it's presumably his wife in the background
76:47
and he's uh calling the he so he calls himself he calls his own landline check
76:50
this out
76:55
hold on a second what's my number again
76:58
engineers man engineers man
77:02
that's funny whatever man i love engineering it's really cool i had to
77:06
show taran this immediately scratch builds cell phone can't remember phone
77:10
number whoever you are what's what's the what's
77:13
the guy dude hunt david hunt you are so awesome like you are so awesome i love
77:17
people that are just that into what they do yeah that what they do is more
77:22
important than their own phone number yes like you are cool and it's actually pretty
77:26
awesome i thought this was super cool i hope it goes further because we need to
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get away from the ultra attractness of everything right now because it's kind
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of horrible and yeah that's about it for that one an
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actually open source os yes unlike what Android has turned into yeah seriously
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but then it's just a matter of time until someone turns it into not open source again so whatever uh
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where are we moving on to okay so the the nod the nod
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so this was posted by topwar gamer originally on the forum and this is a
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bluetooth ring um should we should we just show the video of this because we
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can demonstrates it pretty well we can show all the that probably doesn't work
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that wayness of the video
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my biggest problem with this is actually that it's based around bluetooth oh
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shoot i'm not screenshot because bluetooth is just like the biggest thing that doesn't work very
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well in my opinion there's there's so many problems with it pairs but they decide
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not to talk to each other or it won't pair or something else is paired to it i
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know but it's still kind of rough it's gotten a lot better it's still kind of
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rough i don't know you like it roughly i don't think you can switch in between devices
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easily enough for a ring to be what i'm going to want to use and
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i i don't i don't i wouldn't how much is it 150 bucks 150 yeah 140 yeah 150 bucks
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i don't think i would pay 150 for something that looks very elegant
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because of how well photographed it is here but it's actually
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super chunky yeah like this is a finger that's not even a
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skinny finger this is a third the width of a finger
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like sticking out of the inside of your hand it's really big it's it's
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they show a guy in the video like playing halo i'm like no man
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here's the video we'll just we'll let you guys it's really short so do you
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want to talk about what your concept is while they check out the video okay so
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not just mine definitely ghost is in this as well i we we started arguing
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about the merits of this ring and we ended up coming up with the thing that
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we would rather it was right so this actually totally worked out so we would
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get rid of almost everything in this ring we would leave it with just the
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swiped texting kind of idea yeah but remove the actual ability to
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like do that on a tv it now only pairs with your smartwatch yeah when a text
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opens up you can read it and then
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come up with different shapes like you could bind shapes to different words or
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you could go with a keyboard mapping so like yes on a keyboard is probably not
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going to be any other word if you're one word texting so if you went like this
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it types here right now okay so if you waved your hand in a shape if you wave
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your hand in a shape that correlates with either a keyboard design you could you could set it up however you want a
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keyboard design or maybe you bound it to a circle so yes is a circle
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so you get a message on your smart watch and you just go whoop
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and you can reply that way i don't like your idea i think the
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functionality is too limited if it was like 20 bucks no that's that's why oh so
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you want it to be cheap that's why we're moving everything because it's supposed to be dirt cheap
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and nice and much much much smaller hopefully embeddable in an actual ring
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right i think we're a few generations of technology away from a smart ring that
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actually makes an ounce of sense yes this one isn't it to me i might order
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one just to try it so that i can tell you guys how stupid it is um i like the
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idea just like that huge like wrist like
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uh wrist communicator size smartwatch the neptune pine uh yeah it'll come at
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some point i i ordered it they're they're still progressing so sure why
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not uh in the thread where this was posted by topwar gamer he he said that i
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would be super interested because i'm interested in interacting with things in different ways and he was totally right
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and i do find this interesting i just do not think this is the one i mean in
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theory it allows a bunch of different stuff it can be a universal controller
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allowing effortless communication with all of your smart devices and your
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connected life including phones tablets google glass watches home appliances tvs
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computers and more you can use it as a media controller you can use it for
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selfies to answer calls so you could like use it as like a remote you know
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camera shutter for example you can the flat surface of the ring so
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it's meant to be worn on the inside the way that they're wearing it which would just make it uncomfortable to work your
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fist the worst possible um so the flat surface of the ring is meant to be um if
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it has a tiny capacitive touch panel with two programmable buttons on either
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side and then you can type in the air similar to swipe and the battery lasts
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for a day
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yeah i'm not really interested in this one but like imagine you took almost all
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those features out and just made it made it work with your smart watch in some
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sort of way that's the only thing it has to pair with do because i'm not really going to want to use this for much else
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anyways right um that's the only thing it has to pair to so you're not going to
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screw around with bluetooth that much when bluetooth is only trying to do one
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thing like if you're not repeatedly trying to pair it with a billion different things throughout your day
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it's actually usually pretty okay so if you pair the ring and the
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smartwatch and just leave it it's probably fine and then if you came up
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with stuff like gesture controls for doing certain things i think that could be cool because smart watches are really
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interesting and i would like to be able to interact with them more but when
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we're seeing stuff like the google what is it called
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is it google watch i don't remember but it's essentially google now but it's the watch level
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oh yeah i remember reading about that yeah um that kind of stuff is a lot of voice
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controlled interaction which like if you're in a meeting yep
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you don't want to talk to your watch yeah text message mom yes that's fine
82:45
when you could just be like oh it's up spin done right i mean i think really
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for me if it's super cheap the the the holy grail is going to be
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some kind of eye tracking technology that i can use to control things
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so you know some a google glass type device
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that is way better and way cheaper oh yeah um that i can use to
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just kind of like do stuff quietly while people aren't paying attention
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yeah speaking of google okay hold on we got oh it's gonna have to be way better
83:14
again two more topics that we really need to get to the teardown so one
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posted originally by nice hat i want to do this one first because i have a poll
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question that i wanted oh yeah can we create a poll in the meantime sure um so
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businessweek.com has an article about china's plan to
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build a massive gaming
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like um they're calling it like a park but they
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mean park like industrial park as far as i can tell like not like with slides so
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the idea is that the centerpiece is going to be a massive gaming stadium
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for things like live tournaments and then around it they want to attract oops
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i haven't actually shown around it they want to attract
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game companies to set up their their offices there and turn this into
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like a like a video gaming sort of hub
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um fascinating
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my my my only problem with this is like a lot of my i have a lot of friends that
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watch esports like my main core group of friends pretty much everybody watches
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esports at some level right maybe not that much but they do watch it and the
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main common theme i find is it's nice that you can watch it on a tablet or
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your computer and while i think a lot of our group
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would go out to these events to see these things i don't actually see a
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crazy amount of people doing it and one thing is that i know that when i was in korea
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i went to the starcraft finals it was
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being streamed in two places the arena that it was in and uh gum tv which is
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another one when i was at gome tv there was four people there
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and they had live casters two of the most famous casters in the world live
84:54
casting it there's four people there right um okay where the actual tournament
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actually was with the players so you're gonna expect to see a lot more people
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there that make sense there was a lot more people but until the actual final
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round there was a few empty chairs and the there was none of the standing
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room was taken up the final round boom full and then everyone disappeared
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so basically you're saying that live attendees for esports events are like
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vancouver canucks fans
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i see that correlation and like the thing is i'm sure i'm sure it will be
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attended i just and like there's been league of legends ones where they're
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freaking huge right my only thing is i
85:36
mean they filled the staples center yeah with a tournament at that point so i
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just they need to make it more um how do i even say it i think one of
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the problems with the one korean one is it wasn't very accessible so they need to make this very accessible so they're
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going to have a heart so your your issue is they're going to have a hard time
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keeping the seats full often enough to justify a facility that for the big game
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yeah this phase alone is going to be costing i think it was 480 million big
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games and big tournaments and stuff i totally see them filling it
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yeah so so uh 480 million just for the
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arena and the first phase um and then 2.8 billion total
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and if you can only fill it up with you know 15 000 fans like
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you know but then again 15 000 is honestly not
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that high of a number yeah so they might be able to fill this thing up all the
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time because that's not that high of a number
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i just don't know i'm talking about like big crazy stable center level
86:36
uh stadiums i don't know if you can fill that up on like a weekly basis okay so
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if it's part of a wider gaming themed park like facility would you consider
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traveling there for like a trip as a tourist attraction
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china scares me a little bit well okay if let's say it wasn't in
86:53
china would you consider traveling to something like that i went to korea to
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see this starcraft okay so there you go honestly i this it it works for me i
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would want to go see this i would go there every once in like if it was local
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i'd love to go see games i just i worry
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about so i want to hear from you guys is this
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another crazy building project in china
87:14
where there's going to be entire ghost well they've already got ghost
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cities over in china entire cities of basically
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unpopulated buildings because they built all this stuff assuming that the money
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and the people were coming and then they they just kind of didn't is this going
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to be another one of those projects or is this a stroke of genius and it's
87:36
amazing no one did it sooner and is this going to turn into an esports mecca
87:40
personally i think this post yeah okay personally i think this one will work
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will it become a mecca yes or no um will it will it be will it be a success
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okay there uh so slick's gonna post the luke i
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haven't called you slick in a long time luke's gonna be posting the uh the straw
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poll into the chat very very shortly here in
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the meantime there was one other topic oh yes titan z
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has been postponed i think this one will work that's my vote um so brown ninja 97
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posted this on the forum
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here we go i'm just going to share with you guys while you guys vote
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so titan z was supposedly going to be released on april 29th but according to
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sweet clockers plans have changed the only thing we don't know is why
88:32
we do apparently have some more details about the titan z so we were looking at
88:37
a 180 megahertz frequency drop compared to the original 780 ti so
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yeah and we were looking at a cooling system that was going to be a triple
88:48
slot cooler the first time we've ever seen a triple slot reference cooler out
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of NVIDIA and i think AMD i don't think anyone's ever done a triple slot
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reference yeah so it was um it was the
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rumor that the speculation and i haven't heard anything about it one way or the
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other is that titan z was was delayed because it's not going
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to be competitive with the r9 295 x2
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which is a liquid-cooled card that runs at the same speed as the full-fledged r9
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290x except two of them on a single card
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and that the titan z was going to be incredibly expensive i don't know if i
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necessarily buy that because the titan z was not meant to go head to head
89:30
against the 295 x2 it's a compute card
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with 12 gigs of memory and full double
89:37
precision unlockedness like it it's it's it's more
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of a developer card i think part of the problem is their marketing was a little
89:45
bit confusing on that you could be right because they they did talk about it in
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the in the sense and they always have with titan despite it not really being
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that they have always marketed it on some level as a gamer well original
89:57
titan was launched as the fastest gaming gp on the planet yeah that was how it
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was positioned for better or for worse um and then they they talked a lot
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during the briefing call i remember my briefing call for titan because i was i
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was late for my badminton ladder because i had to sit on a briefing call for
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titan and then i had to leave the briefing call for titan make up some
90:16
and bull story about how my phone got disconnected so i could attend a
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different briefing for like a different region that wasn't one of my original
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options so i could actually hear what they were saying because i had to go get on a badminton court but anyway um okay
90:29
that's pretty funny uh but the branding was was to the reviewers it was very
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clear this is about double precision this is about cuda development and if
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gamers want to buy them then great but the way that it was positioned on like
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GeForce.com was not very clear and there was a lot of the symbol the same
90:44
confusion about titan z so maybe because it wasn't going to be
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competitive with a card that it was never really created to compete with
90:52
they're put in a bit of an awkward position yeah i think they might have dug their
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own hole here i think the bigger story here
90:59
is i think this is maybe the end of the
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line of dual GPU top end cards
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i've never liked them you look at what AMD AMD resorted to
91:12
a prefab liquid cooler to make theirs work NVIDIA the the kings in my mind of
91:19
cool quiet elegant solutions not
91:23
compromising on like well not obviously not going back
91:27
to like the fx 5800 days but but of late
91:31
the NVIDIA that doesn't compromise on the overall experience to deliver more
91:35
frames per second resorted to a triple slot cooler in order to make this thing
91:39
function is that where we're at now is this is this the end of the line are we
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at the physical limitations of the heat that we can remove and the power that we
91:48
can deliver to these cards and is it just the end now
91:51
i'm i'm i even have a different point but i do agree with you on that um
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although i wouldn't be surprised if it did work i just bet you that they're looking into
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triple slot coolers and stuff now because of results from 295x2
92:05
i wouldn't be surprised there because i do suspect it probably did work with the
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dual slot cooler um but
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i'm i'm surprised that like i i never liked them even when cases were huge
92:17
right it made more sense to have a billion graphics cards now a lot of
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people are going to much smaller cases and smaller motherboards and smaller
92:24
situations so it even makes more sense now
92:27
and it's still not catching on
92:30
right and one thing that i need i think gpus are going really slow actually
92:34
we've seen this like we've seen a little bit iteration for a long time and you're
92:38
starting to see where like that card and even the 295x2 when
92:43
things are fully set up on really really high resolutions which are coming down
92:47
in price fast so people are going to start running them at really high settings
92:52
games at those resolutions are it's it's not that impressive
92:57
like barely over 60 FPS so then isn't that an argument for
93:03
more dual GPU solutions it is but it's also an argument for stronger single GPU
93:07
solutions i know this is hard to build slow iteration it's hard to build videos
93:12
sits on stuff well
93:16
you can make the argument either way i don't think anyone outside of NVIDIA
93:20
really knows what's happened over the last little while but what we do know is
93:24
that tsmc is not delivering
93:27
smaller process nodes so there's only so much you can do by
93:31
tweaking the design with something like maxwell to go okay it's more efficient
93:35
per watt and it does perform better but look guys this is all we can really do
93:39
if it's colder and more efficient per watt and performs better and all that kind of stuff then it should be easier
93:43
to make these dual GPU so then you want them to deliver a larger GPU
93:48
or that because even though it's more expensive or that right they're making a
93:52
lot of their but we should talk about GPU bomb costs if we're gonna talk about google glass bomb
93:57
costs uh it's not about the bond i know i know i
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know okay let's talk let's talk about google glass should we talk about the
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poll results yeah uh yeah let's do the poll results so guys the results are in
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will china's gaming centric like
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thing will it be a success most of you think
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no i actually disagree i disagree wholeheartedly i think that particularly
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because it's in asia and i think that because it's on the forefront it's going
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to be the first one it is going to have the support of guys like mlg where
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they're going to be like yeah we want to have every event there from now on
94:37
and once you make something into the default destination
94:42
then you kind of won at least for a while at least until competing
94:46
facilities start to show up and there is something to be said even if you're
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watching on the screen i mean think about going to a concert unless you're
94:54
in like the first few dozen rows it's not like you can see the pores on the
94:58
singer's face and a lot of the time you're gonna end up watching the big
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screen anyway so even though a gaming tournament is
95:06
very much like that you're not really looking at the players most of the time
95:10
you're looking at the screen it's more about people attend live events for the
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atmosphere i personally don't like having lots of people around me they're
95:17
loud and they smell bad but lots of people like the atmosphere of
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concerts and sporting events and that's what this will be unless you're still
95:25
watching on a screen it's it's about being around the other
95:29
people and cheering when the thing happens and the crowd going
95:33
and i think something like this can be a big success and i i think the timing is
95:38
right yeah three years ago i would have
95:42
laughed at it yeah me too and like with with china getting behind league of
95:46
legends so heavily i could totally see this because league
95:49
of legends is gonna be a huge big deal there this arena and league of legends
95:52
are gonna have to come together if that doesn't work then i don't think the
95:55
arena is going to work 100 they they have to work together or else
96:00
it's just no big deal so google glass costs 80 bucks to build this was
96:04
originally posted on the forum by shadow captain that's fine so the processor
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costs 13.96 with the wi-fi and blue shift
96:13
bluetooth chips coming in at our bluetooth chip coming in at 10.79 and
96:17
the camera 5.66
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if they increase the bom cost they could put in a way better camera they could do
96:24
all kinds of interesting stuff and still make a profit but something that people
96:29
need to understand so anyone who is like upset about the bomb cost of a product
96:34
like this it is not about the bomb cost it is
96:37
about and for oh sorry bomb means bill of materials so the actual like list of
96:41
things on a spreadsheet that go into it and the the 80 includes assembly
96:45
apparently yeah but it's not about that it's about the extremely expensive
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engineers that you have to employ for a long period of time before you can
96:54
actually release it that all needs salaries
96:58
so there's there seems to be a fair bit of outrage that google's charging 1500 for
97:04
because i mean it's something to remember guys is they don't want people to buy it not really they only want
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people to buy it who are serious business like developers and stuff and
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going to develop for it or or uh provide
97:15
like massive media coverage for it or people who can afford to spend 1500 on
97:19
something to try it to be one of the first ones that's who they they don't
97:24
want everyone to have one because they know it's not ready yet it's like oculus
97:27
developer kits yeah they don't want everyone to buy it they say outright
97:32
they kind of did kind of but they wanted developers to buy it they don't want
97:37
every joe to buy it and then like do a review of how it the pixels are big yeah
97:42
you don't want people to have a bad experience with the product you'd rather
97:45
just not have them have it at all it's fairly and that's an interesting uh
97:49
point because it's fairly well documented that oculus looks like a
97:52
screen door and the google glass experience is really not that good yeah
97:56
and that's because they're both not what those companies want them to be yet
98:00
that's right so you're going to pay you're going to pay more and then there's even a lot of
98:04
speculation that cv1 consumer version one of oculus rift is going to be
98:08
cheaper than some of the development kits have been or all of the development kits have been
98:12
interesting if you think about it the mass manufacturing possibilities behind
98:16
a consumer version are much higher than the development version if you're only
98:20
making a very small amount of something like
98:23
development kit one wasn't a huge amount so if you're only making that much it
98:26
could cost more all right so unless you have something
98:31
else that you feel is incredibly important we do have a few more things
98:34
on here but i think that like needs to be done i think that's pretty much it for the
98:39
lanchow we thank you guys very much for tuning in the weather's beautiful so i'm
98:43
not doing a garage sale today i will do one again at some point it's just
98:46
honestly you guys fridays are very tiring at the end of
98:50
very tiring weeks so he does a lot of stuff on friday and this morning was
98:54
worse than usual i had to go to uh see an accountant about our like Linus media
98:59
group tax filing and stuff
99:02
yeah that doesn't sound fun at all
99:05
so i had to i yeah today was awesome
99:09
i noticed you you got back to the office later than you normally do
99:14
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99:18
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that should help peace out guys um