WEBVTT 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:07.839 welcome to the WAN Show guys you know what's funny because i actually received 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:11.280 a complaint from one of our sponsors earlier this 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:16.160 week um where well well it's not so much that 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:21.439 i received a complaint as they received a complaint it was a major sponsor of 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:23.920 ours so one of our one of our long-term 00:00:21.439 --> 00:00:28.640 relationships that we've had for a long time that's how long-term relationships 00:00:25.840 --> 00:00:31.039 work they last a long time i mean unless it's 00:00:29.439 --> 00:00:35.120 you know ah there's no good place this can go so it's a long-term sponsor and 00:00:33.120 --> 00:00:42.160 what happened was they actually received a complaint about the obscene content of 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:45.200 a friday stream that was sponsored by 00:00:42.160 --> 00:00:47.120 said sponsor so i freaked out i'm like 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:50.960 oh man i'm not always the most politically correct guy in the world i 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:56.559 think we can all we can all agree on this uh slenderman definitely knows 00:00:53.920 --> 00:01:02.160 that i'm not always the most appropriate boss you know when it comes to touching 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:04.000 and and words that i say but 00:01:02.160 --> 00:01:07.439 i was like okay well it must have been something particularly horrible if 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:12.479 someone's complaining about it sounded really bad what sometimes i'm not an appropriate 00:01:10.479 --> 00:01:17.759 boss when it comes to touching and words that i say well like you know 00:01:15.600 --> 00:01:20.479 poopsicle okay 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:24.320 that's what i meant so basically i'm freaking out i'm running 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:28.400 around trying to download the archive twitch isn't working i can barely load a 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:31.840 page on the site and i just want to watch the archive and i go oh no hold on 00:01:30.479 --> 00:01:37.200 youtube so i go on the youtube when i'm like oh this doesn't look that bad and then i go 00:01:34.720 --> 00:01:41.920 after party maybe something happened on the after party and so i'm like trying 00:01:40.240 --> 00:01:46.720 to get on twitch again i'm like i can't see this show i don't want to admit to 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:50.799 guilt before i figure out if i did something wrong so at the end of it all 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:54.640 get this i'm like still running around i get this 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:57.759 email thank goodness for the pebble because i knew about the email 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:03.520 immediately and it's like oh upon getting further clarification it 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:08.080 was actually one of the participants in the chat 00:02:04.960 --> 00:02:09.360 of your show that said something obscene 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.080 and i was just kind of sitting there going i was like 00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:19.920 really really the obscene content of my show is 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:23.200 someone in twitch chat i don't think the public internet has a 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:27.599 proper esrb rating i really don't think it does 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:33.440 come on guys so that that was where my upset ended 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:36.800 that was where my stress ended make bombs thank you for whoever's in 00:02:35.200 --> 00:02:42.080 the twitch chat doing that speaking of twitch chat being inappropriate um so so 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:45.360 i was just they were like oh well you know do you think you could like get 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:49.440 moderators i'm like yeah we're on it okay we've got this we've got this under 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:53.120 control we are going to add so many moderators that you're not going to be 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:57.120 able we're going to moderate well we moderate what would happen if we made 00:02:55.200 --> 00:03:00.720 everything can can moderators time out other moderators i don't think so 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:04.800 okay so i was going to say if we made every single person a moderator i yeah 00:03:02.959 --> 00:03:08.400 that creates more problems than it is i know i know 00:03:06.720 --> 00:03:13.680 so we've got a great show for you today guys we've got a number of topics number 00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:16.560 one is the titan z or titan zed if you 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:20.159 prefer from NVIDIA has allegedly been postponed and by allegedly i mean it was 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:24.159 supposed to launch three days ago and it's not here so 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:27.840 yeah the word on the street is actually well 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:33.120 you'll have to wait for the word on the street why don't you just watch the show for a change you know how many people 00:03:31.440 --> 00:03:36.239 tune in for the intro and then leave i've been watching the twitch numbers 00:03:34.799 --> 00:03:39.280 really they're just like what did what do Linus and luke think no i'm totally 00:03:38.239 --> 00:03:42.879 messy i'm gonna say i'm pretty sure it goes up nobody does that 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:47.040 like you push it goes up like for a while people watch the show to stare at 00:03:45.200 --> 00:03:52.080 your hunky good looks not because they want to watch the intro and then leave 00:03:49.519 --> 00:03:55.760 that's cute um also google is 00:03:53.599 --> 00:04:00.159 rumored to be launching the Android silver program and we've got a few 00:03:57.920 --> 00:04:04.959 details of what that would be but it sounds like some kind of a mishmash of 00:04:02.799 --> 00:04:10.319 the nexus program and google play edition phones and the love child that 00:04:07.920 --> 00:04:13.920 exists from that sort of pairing and actually people were freaking out 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:18.000 initially when rumors started to swirl about nexus phones going away but in my 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:21.440 mind this could be a very good thing more on that later we have china 00:04:19.840 --> 00:04:25.199 building an esports station i love saying more on that later 00:04:23.520 --> 00:04:29.600 because it's like it implies that whatever we say about it will be stupid 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:31.810 more on that later anyway sorry 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:37.919 oh man and nissan is developing a paint that 00:04:35.280 --> 00:04:41.120 will resist both water and oil more on that later 00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:45.440 that's a smart idea but i'm just that's not stupid you're 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:49.400 done you're not even doing it right i'm gonna play the intro 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:54.729 so 00:05:03.919 --> 00:05:10.160 uh 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:16.880 so we got a couple of sponsors here for you guys hotspot shield is the fast easy 00:05:15.280 --> 00:05:22.080 inexpensive way to set yourself up with a vpn you can save 20 off an elite 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:28.160 membership by using offer code Linus and ASUS republic of gamers gaming notebooks 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:32.400 we've actually recently done a fair bit of talking about the g750 on the show 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:39.759 and we're gonna keep doing that today because we are both powered by the ASUS 00:05:36.840 --> 00:05:43.680 g750jz i still need nutrition to some point and he's talking about a rapper so 00:05:41.840 --> 00:05:47.360 nutrition yeah you said we're both powered by it but we're not we're more 00:05:45.520 --> 00:05:52.440 powered by like stuff that we eat and drink not necessarily the laptop 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.880 were you thinking of that all week no actually 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:02.880 i was thinking about jay-z the whole way okay well then put more effort into it 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:07.680 next time if you're gonna say something stupid when i talk about the g750jz 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:12.080 i want some premeditation so i'm gonna pre i'm i will do this i will plan out 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:15.919 some sort of thing focused around jay-z for next week 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:21.680 you're awful all right so let's move on to our first topic of the day 00:06:19.039 --> 00:06:25.759 nissan develops water repellent technology for their cars now that's a 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:30.160 bit of a that's a bit of an oversimplification it's not actually 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:34.720 nissan that developed this uh hydrophobic and oleophobic coating 00:06:32.880 --> 00:06:39.600 forward for clarification hydrophobic is water water repellent and uh oil phobic 00:06:37.840 --> 00:06:44.080 is oil repellent yes so but 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:47.840 but they have developed the idea of putting such a coating on a car which to 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:53.199 me like isn't that big of a deal but you know 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.400 either way this video is freaking cool 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:59.919 so we're gonna go ahead and watch it together and there's no sound so i will be the 00:06:57.440 --> 00:07:05.440 narrator nissan is this the world's first self-cleaning car 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:09.039 driven by batman look at us painting it this is how paint 00:07:07.520 --> 00:07:15.360 works sometimes the paint has a hose that contains paint 00:07:12.960 --> 00:07:20.639 and you decide to turn the light off sometimes cars go on the road 00:07:17.919 --> 00:07:24.880 this is a windshield this is rain on the ground 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:27.520 it's like backwards rain it starts on the ground it goes up your 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:31.680 car and it contains sometimes mud this 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:34.880 backwards rain evaporation repels water and spraying 00:07:32.880 --> 00:07:40.400 spray spray i was thinking of my shoulder because it hurts 00:07:37.599 --> 00:07:43.360 everyday dirt not just some day's dirt this is really impressive though okay so 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:49.039 check this out check this out this final shot if the video is to be believed 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:52.080 has not been doctored so you can actually find like a couple little 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:55.919 things on it like there's a little thing here see that 00:07:54.319 --> 00:08:00.479 um and then down here this piece of plastic has actually clearly gone through the 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:05.520 same treatment as the other piece of plastic one thing to note is that this 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:09.680 is a left side vehicle so it means whenever they are like driving off the 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:14.879 side of the road a little bit it'll be on this side so they did abuse the more 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:20.080 you can kind of tell in the plastic yeah so you can tell in the plastic that they 00:08:17.039 --> 00:08:22.080 they abused this side more to make their 00:08:20.080 --> 00:08:26.639 point i think but that doesn't change the fact that the hydrophobic oleophobic 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:31.120 coating everywhere where it isn't applied um or everywhere where it's been 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:36.399 applied like on the paint here on the windshield is really really impressive i 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:40.479 mean look at that we're just gonna here let's reframe on that for a second so 00:08:37.760 --> 00:08:43.680 you can see the way that the dirt and water just 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:48.160 come right off of it now it's not the first time we've seen this when i saw 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:52.560 nissan's video i went looking around for for other ones and i saw some really 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:57.680 cool demos like taking a concrete cinder block and coating one 00:08:55.680 --> 00:09:03.200 side of it and just like trying to make it wet taking a glove yeah yeah and just 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:07.360 like taking the two gloves and then putting them down on like paper towel 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:10.160 and there's like like one drop there's really cool stuff where if you get a 00:09:08.560 --> 00:09:14.160 really nice camera and you like coat someone's finger in it and then put it 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:17.360 in the water you can see like the layer around your finger where the water is 00:09:15.839 --> 00:09:21.440 not touching huh it's really interesting i'll try and 00:09:19.040 --> 00:09:24.240 find a video for you later um but some of my favorite ones is literally when 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:30.560 someone just coats a shirt in it wears the shirt and then the other dude like sprays mustard or ketchup on them right 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:36.240 and then just instead of going bl it hits them and then just falls off 00:09:32.959 --> 00:09:37.760 it's really it it like hurts the brain 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:42.880 for the first few seconds so this was posted on the forum by probe nja so huge 00:09:40.959 --> 00:09:47.200 shout out to you for doing that and i think that's pretty much all there 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:51.200 is to say about it nissan has said already that they have no plans to offer 00:09:48.959 --> 00:09:55.839 the paint as standard equipment but we'll consider making it an option you 00:09:53.279 --> 00:10:00.080 know what it to me is kind of funny what do you mean consider making it an 00:09:57.760 --> 00:10:03.200 option they have to be they have to talk like 00:10:01.920 --> 00:10:07.440 that i know because like what if something happens 00:10:05.760 --> 00:10:10.640 what if some patent comes out and then they're like oh there's no way this is 00:10:08.880 --> 00:10:15.120 gonna work because they didn't like you said at the beginning they didn't invent this this has existed that's why there's 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:18.720 videos right like what we were just talking about people doing it um i can't 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:23.680 remember the name but there's a brand that sells it just in spray cans and you 00:10:20.800 --> 00:10:26.160 can spray it on pretty much everything so 00:10:24.560 --> 00:10:29.440 yeah if you want to do this to whatever you do have to kind of worry like you 00:10:27.760 --> 00:10:33.200 don't want to eat this stuff i'm not even gonna bother read the label 00:10:30.959 --> 00:10:36.480 but something that's gonna repel liquids should probably not be ingested right 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:40.480 well i mean the whole thing with scotchgard like you know why scotchguard 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:44.000 sucks now right because they had to nerf it right yeah they had to completely 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:48.880 change the formula the original scotchgard like my mum was under the 00:10:46.800 --> 00:10:53.440 impression that scotchgard was amazing so i went and like sprayed all of my ski 00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:56.800 equipment with it and like the first day i was like yeah i'm soaked this stuff is 00:10:55.279 --> 00:11:00.560 crap mom what on earth are you talking about she's like no no it's great it's 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:04.320 great it's great Linus just put on all your stuff like 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:08.160 okay disconnected 00:11:05.760 --> 00:11:12.000 um not working but then i actually looked into it and the reason they had 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:16.000 to change the formula was because in the town where they manufactured it all the 00:11:13.920 --> 00:11:19.279 birth defect rate was like right right yeah so it was like a huge 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:22.959 problem so yeah sure there could be some kind of environmental concern some kind 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:28.079 of health concern that comes along with this type of a coating but at the end of 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:33.040 the day if they are figuring out how to apply it to cars okay i guess the thing 00:11:30.560 --> 00:11:38.079 that i hate seeing is artificial segmentation like on our premium model 00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:41.120 we'll offer this option to have this oleophobic coating it's like you know 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:45.839 what why don't you just paint the other car with it please just cover cover any 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.880 car with it yeah because why not if you're buying it in mass it's probably 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:52.720 not going to cost that much in the end and you wonder why consumers are sick of 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:57.040 your crap when you artificially segment your 00:11:54.560 --> 00:12:01.839 products that way so i hope that nissan and anyone for that matter develops this 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:05.839 the amount of water that gets wasted washing cars the amount of soap and 00:12:04.160 --> 00:12:09.600 cleaning chemicals that go down storm drains because not everyone is using 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:14.240 environmentally friendly soaps when they clean their cars at least here in north 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:18.480 america is pretty astounding i actually noticed the the culture seems a little 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:22.639 bit in the places in europe that i've gone the culture about car washing seems 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:27.920 very different so for example um i spent my honeymoon 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:32.480 on the greek islands and i don't think i saw a single car that had probably been 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:35.680 washed in the last two months like it just wasn't a thing whereas 00:12:33.839 --> 00:12:40.480 around here it's fairly rare to find a dirty car yeah and uh and that was just 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:44.240 it was just a bit of an enlightening moment for me and i was just but then on 00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:47.760 on the polar opposite of that in france every single washroom you go into is 00:12:45.680 --> 00:12:51.040 going to be super pristine and here every single public washroom you go into 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:55.519 is absolutely disgusting monstrosity 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:59.279 another interesting thing is that i previous models of iphones i'm not sure 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:03.040 if the current ones do but they have uh oleophobic coating on the screen the 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:07.440 blackberry z10 could have probably used that yeah that screen was not very good 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:10.959 i remember the problem you had with it with that said you do have particularly 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:14.880 gross hands yes that is true but that phone was 00:13:12.800 --> 00:13:21.120 particularly bad at dealing with it like i i like i i even like fist bumping him 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:26.240 no i'm sometimes i'm just like yeah 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:30.720 it's pretty bad all right i'm not judging though i am 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:36.560 you're gross you beat me to the punch on that one 00:13:34.079 --> 00:13:39.120 so this is right up your alley this next story here 00:13:37.680 --> 00:13:45.200 the famous fabled 00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:46.399 dumping ground for e.t the video game 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:51.200 has been found so despite this being reportedly 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:55.600 one of the worst games that anyone who's ever played it has ever played um people 00:13:53.760 --> 00:13:59.440 want to find it so badly because it's been kind of hidden away and it's really 00:13:58.160 --> 00:14:05.360 really really really hard to get your hands on so what happened was they dumped it in some 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:10.000 landfill in new mexico and then never looked back and never yeah like they 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:14.880 printed way too many copies of it way too many copies it was a total piece 00:14:12.560 --> 00:14:19.360 of garbage terrible so they just dumped it dumped it forgot about it it's 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:23.440 in a landfill don't worry about it ever since then the internet has kind of gone 00:14:21.839 --> 00:14:26.959 insane it's had its ups and downs with this story but it's kind of gone insane 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:31.440 the video game nerd also known as the cinemassacre group has been working on a 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:34.800 video on it since i think 2007 there's a documentary going on right now and the 00:14:33.199 --> 00:14:39.519 people working on the documentary actually dug up the site and actually 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:42.560 have found i've seen pictures of two or three of them now they look pretty 00:14:40.959 --> 00:14:46.079 smashed so i don't think any of them are actually going to work but we'll see who 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:49.680 knows the last i heard none of the ones they had unearthed worked yet yeah but 00:14:48.160 --> 00:14:53.360 then that being said they might be able to remount chips right and make it work 00:14:51.839 --> 00:14:57.760 that way like maybe that cartridge doesn't work but that feels like cheating to me 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:02.079 it kind of is but if you do want to get the game back um it might work in some 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:08.000 form if you want original cartridge though i don't think they've unearthed one yet the the movie that uh cinemaska 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:11.760 is making with angry video game nerd is gonna be like a science fiction 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:15.120 adventure based movie so it's not really based around 00:15:13.040 --> 00:15:18.000 that much so kind of like e.t will there be an alien 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:22.240 i'm sure there's going to be an alien i've seen parts of it um shoot me but it 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:25.519 really doesn't look that good so 00:15:23.760 --> 00:15:30.399 i don't know we'll see someone will someone will attack me for that um but 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:33.760 yeah that's honestly about it it's interesting i'm excited to see what 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:37.440 comes with it i'm excited for the first one to hit ebay 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:40.399 right that's that's what i'm and i'm excited to figure out what atari decides 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:47.120 to do about this because they probably still technically own that land i don't think they've 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:51.920 commented on any of this yet yeah so atari is just kind of 00:15:49.839 --> 00:15:55.759 but once someone starts making money off of this exactly i think the story 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:59.519 changes a little bit i mean if you're atari you must be pretty desperate at 00:15:57.680 --> 00:16:03.199 this point yeah because like the angry video game nerd his is science fiction 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:05.839 adventure based thing so i'm not too worried about that he's making a story 00:16:04.560 --> 00:16:11.519 and that's just based on the buried games it's not like yeah he's not planning to sell the 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:15.920 cartridges or anything like that i imagine 00:16:12.880 --> 00:16:17.759 video game collectors would pay oh yeah 00:16:15.920 --> 00:16:21.040 and like especially to get one from the dig yeah so like i think it uh at the 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:25.759 end of the day they're gonna i mean they're gonna excavate these and i suspect there's enough of them that 00:16:23.839 --> 00:16:29.360 something's gotta work unless they specifically smashed them before they 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:32.959 put them down right right but i mean so i think there will be there 00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:37.920 will be tears right there will be the ones that are in basically like pristine condition and work there'll be ones that 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:43.519 look good but don't work and there will be broken ones there's that game rating system have you heard 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:46.160 of it before no you can you can ship in your unboxed game i can't remember the 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:52.079 name of it right now but i'm sure someone in the chat will bring it up you can ship in your 00:16:49.920 --> 00:16:54.399 your like new inbox game and they'll rate 00:16:53.040 --> 00:16:57.759 how good condition it's in it's like any 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:02.240 dents on the corners any rips anything like that they'll put it in a shell 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:06.400 casing and they'll stamp an official rating on it 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:10.240 so like if you get like a 95 rated nes game you can sell it for incredible 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:15.280 amounts of money and it costs like 100 bucks just to get the service done 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:20.079 so like if you get a high rating et that's from the dig 00:17:17.439 --> 00:17:24.640 it's gonna be worth tons and then atari might be like we 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:29.120 technically own those so nope our money 00:17:27.360 --> 00:17:32.720 or they could just say nope they all go to us i'm really interested to see what 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:36.799 atari does or if they just do nothing i guess we'll have to see they might just 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:40.160 do nothing i wouldn't be super surprised if they did nothing to be completely 00:17:38.320 --> 00:17:45.600 honest oh well we'll see i guess Android silver 00:17:43.520 --> 00:17:49.120 yeah let's move on to Android silver so let's do a twitter blitz soon i'm sorry 00:17:47.600 --> 00:17:53.840 should we do twitter soon sure about what i don't know we just haven't i don't think we did a twitter blitz the 00:17:51.679 --> 00:18:00.240 last two weeks okay why don't we just do a random one guys hit us at linustech on 00:17:57.120 --> 00:18:02.960 twitter let us know if you have anything 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:05.600 fascinating to ask us or comment on anything that we've talked about so far 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.960 we're going to do a twitter blitz in a little bit here all right so our next topic is Android silver it was posted 00:18:09.360 --> 00:18:17.039 originally on the Linus tech tips forum by red round two and then the source 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.640 article was on Android authority so this 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:23.200 is a report going around right now that the nexus 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:27.039 program so you know the nexus 5 the nexus 7 you know i really did wonder 00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:31.919 what they were going to do when they ran out of screen sizes to make it bigger 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:35.280 that would also correspond to increasingly 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:39.900 model numbers that didn't seem like the greatest plan 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:43.100 from the get-go it's just discontinued 00:18:43.840 --> 00:18:49.919 it's gone don't worry about it we're not using the word one at least we came up 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:53.039 with something else imagine they did that 00:18:51.600 --> 00:18:57.640 that would be three different Android phones that would be called one silver 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.640 one 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:03.120 if they at least had the next iteration be a silver two 00:19:01.840 --> 00:19:06.400 so for two and like from there on i'd probably be 00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:12.080 okay with it when cell phones go down enough in price 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:14.000 can we have the silver dollar 00:19:12.080 --> 00:19:20.080 i don't think that'll happen how about the uh how about the silver 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:20.080 and sterling conflict 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:24.720 you don't follow sports right not much oh do you know what's going on 00:19:23.760 --> 00:19:29.919 right now with the the the coach that just got fired no no the 00:19:27.840 --> 00:19:33.840 clippers owner oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i felt like i follow it enough yeah 00:19:32.320 --> 00:19:37.360 i just that's that's kind of the thing right now i i don't know i've been i 00:19:36.320 --> 00:19:42.559 actually had a really interesting conversation with uh with uh iago and 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.760 the ncix tech tips crew when we were having lunch today 00:19:43.919 --> 00:19:50.160 and uh they brought up some interesting points what he says in the privacy of 00:19:47.919 --> 00:19:53.530 his own home no matter how foul and disgusting it is is not illegal 00:19:53.120 --> 00:19:58.080 um so to 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:03.360 my conversation probably shouldn't have been leaked my thing is he's done way 00:19:59.919 --> 00:20:06.080 worse stuff in the past and and honestly 00:20:03.360 --> 00:20:11.760 like again because what he's done right now actually isn't illegal and and he's 00:20:09.120 --> 00:20:18.160 probably on the right side of of any law that could possibly exist 00:20:15.520 --> 00:20:22.320 to protect people who say things to people in public and then just have that 00:20:19.919 --> 00:20:26.640 turn into like a gigantic spiel he's probably on the right side of whatever 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:31.840 that is but if you actually look at any of the media articles about this whole 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:35.840 controversy right now people aren't even really going after him about 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:39.280 the recording they're going after him for being an 00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:43.520 allegedly supremely foul human being 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:47.520 and a lot of them well as far as i know he is i'm not entirely sure but just 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:52.720 digging up a ton of the history and kind of going you know what this is just the 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:54.400 cherry on top that we needed to catalyze 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:57.039 what's going on right now because you're 00:20:56.159 --> 00:21:00.640 like the recording like again i don't like 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:04.640 the fact that someone published a private recording i don't like that but 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:08.799 then from what i've read he does seem like an extremely following movie and 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:12.159 and i don't mean it's okay i don't like someone 00:21:09.919 --> 00:21:16.640 saying to someone i don't want you bringing a person of that ethnic 00:21:14.080 --> 00:21:20.720 persuasion no that is that is horrendous yes 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:25.679 but um i also don't want that's 00:21:23.360 --> 00:21:30.159 even though it's wrong it's not illegal what happened 00:21:27.840 --> 00:21:35.039 you're you're it's not illegal to tell someone in private that like if i okay 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:39.360 if i give you tickets to a play and i'm like look i don't want you bringing um 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:43.679 say it correctly so this doesn't get taken out of context yeah i don't even i don't want you bringing a white person 00:21:42.320 --> 00:21:49.360 there that's probably the safest thing i can say don't bring any white people i'm 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:52.880 allowed to say that it's not illegal because 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:56.559 okay as your employer i probably can't say that but let's say it wasn't oh yeah 00:21:54.400 --> 00:22:01.120 you know i i disconnected that yeah yeah i just i still don't know 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:05.200 and you could make the argument based on how old he is and the kind of 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:09.039 relationship they probably had he might have been her employer so maybe 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:12.320 it was wrong but that's a whole other ball of wax 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:15.440 anyway i i don't remember where i was going with this anyway that's happening 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:21.039 um the vga rating vga grader.com okay i'm 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:25.440 jumping back to this because i don't want to talk about racist old guys 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:28.640 anymore um but yeah see they put it in this jewel point at your screen i know 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:33.280 they can't see it but i'm trying to show you really quickly they put it in a jewel case and they put it they stamp a 00:22:31.600 --> 00:22:38.480 rating on it it costs like a hundred bucks so it's basically 00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:43.200 gia except for games vga rating vgg 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:48.240 vgg rating dot reader vgg raider substituting yeah okay raider 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:52.799 oh bing is so useless okay here oh oh good 00:22:51.280 --> 00:22:58.880 they're screen sharing with me already so vggrating.com brings up g detox plus 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:03.840 herbal capsule um okay 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:05.200 so vgg raider all right google no i'm 00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:10.320 going to try searching for that i'm going to see if google manages to bring 00:23:07.360 --> 00:23:10.320 up what i'm actually looking for 00:23:11.120 --> 00:23:15.679 it's like you know what i give i give 00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:22.320 bing a chance time and time again i give bing a chance 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:27.200 did you use uh Windows updates to download the bing desktop and bing 00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:28.720 toolbar no that's so frustrating 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:34.000 no i didn't i'm like i'm actually looking for Windows upgrades i keep 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:36.480 giving bing a chance and like okay 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:42.080 i don't use google because i'm married to google and love google my love for 00:23:39.120 --> 00:23:45.520 google skin deep it works it's a it's a working relationship i 00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:51.520 tried to go to duckduckgo and then i was like this doesn't really work me and google we do our best here 00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:54.799 and we we fight through the problems but you stay together but we stay together 00:23:53.280 --> 00:23:58.080 man yeah bing because it's the default on 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:02.400 internet explorer and i reinstall operating systems so often 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:06.559 i often am lazy about installing my alternate browsers and i'll use ie and 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:11.679 the default will be bing for a while and the only time i actually turn around 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:15.279 and like get off my lazy butt and install my alternate browsers that i'll 00:24:13.360 --> 00:24:18.640 use google as a default is when bing just can't find anyone that 00:24:17.360 --> 00:24:22.000 does something like that when it does something like this look at those bing 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:28.559 results okay office of quality of performance ssa.gov 00:24:25.679 --> 00:24:32.559 some patent for flame laminate polyether urethane 00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:36.000 i mean they're not even close genetics 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:40.960 diamondbring.com and like what is this does that say fellatio book 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:44.880 oh teleco book sorry how did you possibly i'm not they have books about 00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:49.080 that anyway do you have an idiot's guide v 00:24:47.760 --> 00:24:53.919 g grader.com so google managed to find it 00:24:51.919 --> 00:24:57.440 bing did not and that is incredibly disappointing anyway why don't we 00:24:55.039 --> 00:25:02.400 actually get onto our next topic here so from Android authority the nexus program 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:07.520 retiring next year Android silver allegedly to take its place so what 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:13.200 Android silver is going to be is a bit of a of a mishmash of the nexus program 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:16.480 so nexus the idea was they support the phone with software for two years 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:20.320 correct i believe i don't think there was a cap 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:24.159 on it i believe there was there was well there was a guarantee yeah i think 00:25:21.840 --> 00:25:28.640 there's a minimum yeah let us know in the chat if you guys can uh if you guys 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:33.679 can remember how long nexus devices get so anyway so a nexus device has to be 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:40.880 this it has to be at an aggressive price it has to be from a well-established 00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:42.400 manufacturer and uh it has to be stock 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:46.320 vanilla Android then on the other side we've got google 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:51.360 play edition devices so we saw this with the htc one the galaxy s4 and we've seen 00:25:49.120 --> 00:25:57.760 it again with the htc one m8 in the galaxy s5 but what's interesting to me 00:25:55.600 --> 00:26:01.679 about silver is that i really think it takes the best of both worlds because 00:25:59.840 --> 00:26:05.360 right now you've got those play edition devices which for the htc one m8 for 00:26:03.919 --> 00:26:12.000 example the one that i think people should be buying if they're buying a play edition device the htc one m8 it's 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:17.360 extremely expensive if silver could take the concept of play 00:26:15.520 --> 00:26:20.640 edition that is to say and what's cool about the play edition phones that are 00:26:19.360 --> 00:26:26.320 coming out now is how they come with 00:26:23.520 --> 00:26:31.279 basically stock Android but all of those cool 00:26:28.320 --> 00:26:34.799 vendor created customizations that can be added within a special subset of the 00:26:33.760 --> 00:26:40.000 play store so i love that approach i think that's 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:45.360 great but if that could meet nexus halfway and be implemented instead of 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:50.720 only on flagship devices that you have to pay full pop out of pocket for 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:53.279 i forget where that sentence started if that could be instead of on just 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:58.000 flagship devices that you have to pay full pop for if we could see that on 00:26:55.520 --> 00:27:02.159 mid-range devices or and this is the other big bomb 00:26:59.520 --> 00:27:06.559 carrier subsidized devices i think that's an incredibly positive thing 00:27:03.679 --> 00:27:10.240 because the cold hard truth and phone enthusiasts 00:27:07.919 --> 00:27:15.520 get over yourself not everyone 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:17.440 buys a phone outright 00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:22.720 some people lock into a contract because quite 00:27:19.679 --> 00:27:26.400 frankly who cares you're going to pay 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:28.960 your carrier anyway yeah 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:31.440 it's not like you get a huge discount with a lot of carriers even if you say 00:27:30.159 --> 00:27:35.039 no to the phone they make you lock into a contract anyways 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:39.919 at least here in canada yeah i don't know elsewhere but so so 00:27:38.159 --> 00:27:43.679 especially the tier one carriers a lot of the like tier two carriers you can 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:47.360 just do like basically pay as you go yeah but but you're good i mean you're 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.840 gonna you're gonna pay for a phone contract anyway 00:27:49.360 --> 00:27:56.000 so who cares not everyone upgrades their phone every year not everyone roots 00:27:54.559 --> 00:28:00.640 their device so for some people 00:27:57.840 --> 00:28:06.720 being able to get a high-end device for 199 on contract with a phone plan that 00:28:03.919 --> 00:28:11.039 they're gonna buy anyway is great so if we can have Android silver fill 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:16.799 that gap by giving us more mid-range devices that deliver a basically stock 00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:20.000 google experience um where this is this is not quite like the google play 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:23.919 edition one so the idea is that a silver device will come with the customizations 00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:27.039 off it but you can remove basically all of them yeah as opposed to coming 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:32.080 without them but you can add them i'm totally okay with that what a fantastic 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:36.640 middle ground yeah silver sounds amazing and one thing i really like is that um 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:40.000 just i think you kind of already said this but the the subsidizing google is 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:43.840 going to subsidize it and help make it cheap because i'm in a weird position 00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:47.440 right now well the rumor is google may subsidize the phones oh okay i thought 00:28:45.520 --> 00:28:52.399 it was a natural thing so rumor i think this is all rumors so far right okay 00:28:49.919 --> 00:28:57.120 yeah yeah um i'm in a weird spot because i'm done my contract but just sitting 00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:00.799 still paying the contract your carrier is a bunch of terrible people as well 00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:03.840 i'm not going to name anyone really bad so i'm looking to switch but then 00:29:02.159 --> 00:29:09.039 there's possibly new plans coming out so i don't want to switch right now so i can't get a subsidized phone in that way 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:12.399 i don't have a phone right now i don't want to buy one because if i 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:16.799 bought one then i'm gonna probably buy nexus five but then why wouldn't i wait 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:20.640 for one plus one which is coming out soon which might be 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:23.120 good which might be good but who knows they're an unproven manufacturer at this 00:29:22.159 --> 00:29:27.039 point so i'm in a really weird spot 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:30.559 so i'm happy to see things speaking of really weird spots you just said you 00:29:28.320 --> 00:29:34.159 don't have a phone but i think you do 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:36.480 show us your phone oh okay 00:29:35.600 --> 00:29:43.200 so i don't even want to show it so this is Linus's old iphone 4. so 00:29:41.120 --> 00:29:49.360 so i don't even have working yet luke was like uh oh hey um yo dawg could i 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:53.840 borrow the uh the moto x and i was like ah you know i might switch to the moto x 00:29:51.520 --> 00:29:56.880 at some point plus it's got a nano sim and you have a micro set that's easy to 00:29:55.679 --> 00:30:00.640 fix but and you know what guys okay twitch chat 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:06.000 back me up on this because what i've heard is that cutting down from micro to 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:10.640 nano there's actually a lot more room for error than there is cutting down 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:14.480 from full size sim to micro for example because the the plastic is so close to 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:19.039 the contact so i didn't recommend that he do that especially because his 00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:22.000 terrible carrier charges him ten dollars for a new sim 00:30:20.399 --> 00:30:27.679 whereas mine i walked into the store i was like yo i got a new phone they're like yo you need a new sim 00:30:25.840 --> 00:30:32.159 let me set that up for you his carrier is the one that i'm trying to move to i'm just waiting for new plans and they 00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:36.000 didn't even set up your new sim for you no you had to like call right so yeah 00:30:34.399 --> 00:30:40.960 because on the website when i try to set it up for myself um it was a locked off portals like you 00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:45.679 do not have permission to do this i was like why is the button even there if 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:48.559 it's if i can't do it whereas my carrier it's like here are the two phones and 00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:52.000 they like they like take the sim out for me put it 00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:56.000 in the other phone they make all the calls then like he hands it back to me 00:30:53.919 --> 00:30:59.279 he's like oh hold on hold on uh what's your number and he does like a test call 00:30:57.760 --> 00:31:03.520 from his own cell phone to make sure it's worked i'm like yo man you're 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:08.880 awesome yeah you're cool as much as i hate giving you all of my money at least 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:12.960 you're trying to make me not feel terrible if they make the experience not 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:17.120 horrible i'd be happier paying the same amount that i'm gonna pay someone else 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:20.559 to them because i'm gonna i'm paying my carrier 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:25.440 whoever they are i hate your kids the same amount that you would be everything 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:30.240 about your carrier my 500 megabyte data every month fall in oh people are 00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:35.760 asking i'm on bell so uh bell bell canada from my experience has been one 00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:38.640 of the two lesser of all of the evils and i used to be on rogers and they 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.200 weren't bad either so i think that leaves one 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:47.600 yeah pretty much yeah so people can probably figure it out now so for the 00:31:46.159 --> 00:31:51.600 first time ever luke is going to be using an iphone i 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:56.159 have no idea what i'm doing until he de-cheapifies enough to buy a phone and 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:59.360 that is going to be an interesting experience and you know what it's funny 00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:05.039 because the timing is going to be really good because i recently switched back to 00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:07.519 iOS i've been using an iphone 5s for the 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:10.960 last wow but you're happy about a week and a half i don't even like i can't do 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.399 anything i know but it's a learning experience okay so no hold on hold on 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:19.760 this is important for you i switched back to the iphone 5s not because i'm 00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:23.360 unhappy with the one m8 i've seen a couple people notice that i pulled out a 00:32:21.360 --> 00:32:28.480 5s in the middle of my videos i love the 1m8 fantastic phone i switched back to 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:32.480 the 5s because i think the upcoming iphone 6 is going to be absolutely 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.600 groundbreaking why does pressing the little button not 00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:39.760 turn the screen on oh it did uh it's glitchy it's broken oh yeah you gotta 00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:43.919 press it pretty hard okay yeah sorry i should have told you that um so i think 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.880 the upcoming iphone 6 with its larger screen size is going to be 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:51.200 groundbreaking not not because a larger screen is innovative but because apple's 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:56.159 going to have to make some serious changes to iOS in order to make a larger 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:01.039 screen size work just little things like for example 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:03.039 within apps the standard placement for 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:07.760 back is at the very top left corner of the screen which i think for people who 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:12.320 have normal sized hands isn't a problem right now but when you go and throw that 00:33:09.840 --> 00:33:15.279 design onto a much larger phone they're going to start having the same problem 00:33:13.679 --> 00:33:20.559 people like me with little hands have where in order to go back within an app 00:33:17.840 --> 00:33:23.360 you're going to have to shift your your grip on your phone and people are going 00:33:21.840 --> 00:33:28.559 to drop a lot of iphones unless they change that design so so i wanted to 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:32.000 refresh myself on iOS again 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:34.799 before i jump into the iphone 6 and it's 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.640 also it's also been exactly a year when i did my htc one m8 review was 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.320 basically one year from when i switched to Android so i wanted to go back for a 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:46.080 refresher and you know see how iOS has evolved in 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:51.519 the last little while so it was it was for a reason that i was doing that and so this i think is important for you to 00:33:49.760 --> 00:33:55.760 actually get some perspective on the other side because i'm going to be doing 00:33:53.600 --> 00:33:59.519 a review of the 5s i know i'm super late i don't care but the point is not going 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:04.399 to be the 5s the point is going to be i switched back to iOS what was it like 00:34:02.080 --> 00:34:07.360 and the conclusion just to spoil it for you guys is you know what it's not that 00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:12.960 bad there's stuff i miss about Android and there's stuff i'm gonna miss about iOS 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:16.720 when i switch back to Android siri is so much better than google now that it's 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:21.119 not even funny and make whatever arguments you want you're wrong siri is 00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:24.240 better than google now right now that will change in the future in all 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:29.119 likelihood some of your claims were wrong i have a some of them were right i 00:34:26.720 --> 00:34:32.960 have and the actual experience of using it is better i do 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.960 like the fingerprint thing too the fingerprint unlock 00:34:34.560 --> 00:34:40.639 is really well implemented is it a bulletproof piece of security hardware 00:34:39.520 --> 00:34:45.520 no no no it's nice and fast though but it's 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:50.079 very convenient um so so there's things i'm gonna miss about iOS but um at the 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:54.159 end of the day the conclusion that i came to is you know what it's trade-offs 00:34:51.839 --> 00:34:58.960 one way or the other and i think if someone just put a gun to your head as 00:34:56.399 --> 00:35:03.040 an Android lover or as an iOS lover and said use the other one for a year for 00:35:01.680 --> 00:35:06.880 the first couple weeks or months you'd be like 00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:12.800 and then you'd be fine it would be fine you wouldn't die that's 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:18.880 the point you wouldn't die 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.880 that took a lot longer 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:27.920 now people might watch the video though because they're gonna be able to get that in a more formalized form and for 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:31.680 even longer yeah and the conclusion 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:36.000 will be the same yeah but i do make some more specific points 00:35:33.839 --> 00:35:38.960 i actually have a pretty long bullet list it's going to be it's going to be i 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.640 think a pretty interesting video someone suggested that i buy a 3310 can you even 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.920 buy those still is that possible i don't think so it 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:49.119 wouldn't maybe used and how could you get one on a carrier the battery would 00:35:47.359 --> 00:35:52.960 be super poopy yeah i don't think you would need the carrier subsidy 00:35:53.680 --> 00:36:00.400 watch them pay you to take it like here's here's 50 cash if you take this 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:05.599 phone on a plan that's fine same same plan cost though because it's my carrier 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.440 so they wouldn't you know what hold on 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:13.520 that was amazing time my phone just started it's tell us 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:15.520 what hold on i think that's who it is 00:36:13.520 --> 00:36:20.160 that's them right yeah 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:22.240 what answer and answer no no that's 00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:26.480 right come on come on no you have to that'll be amazing no i 00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:31.920 don't want to talk to telus it's probably their customer set okay 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.920 it's probably the customer set up hello 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.440 hello 00:36:37.359 --> 00:36:43.760 oh no it's ups it's ups uh okay oh i think telus is 310 not 210. that's a 00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:48.000 really close anyway okay okay okay 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:51.599 i think you just stumbled on 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:56.800 actually a brilliant idea which really really low-end phones with 00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:58.800 cashback yes so a recycling program for 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:03.520 phones imagine okay like there's so many 00:37:00.720 --> 00:37:07.440 different facets of this so the carrier can probably get some kind of 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:11.599 governmental credit probably for implementing a regimen like this okay 00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:17.520 um it all of a sudden opens up more premium 00:37:15.040 --> 00:37:22.720 carriers to people who can't afford a phone at all or are even a little bit 00:37:19.839 --> 00:37:28.720 tight on cash if you go okay look we had someone trade in this phone 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:30.720 or whatever and we will not only hand 00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:34.079 you this phone to use but we're gonna give you two months credit if you lock 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:39.440 in for like six months tell you what just give us a try we're 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.480 going to be making our money back because we're going to lock you in for a 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:46.960 very short period of time subsidize at some point or something we're going to make this super accessible for everyone 00:37:45.839 --> 00:37:50.640 we're going to have a positive environmental impact and what the way 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:53.760 that phone hardware is not changing in the same way that it used to the one m8 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:56.960 is faster than the one m7 but not the way the one m7 was faster than the 00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:03.440 previous flagship like it's slowing down yeah how brilliant is that 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.920 you actually subsidize people to take 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:09.119 used phones and use them that does kind of make sense because i know a lot of 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.960 people that get rid of phones that are still working and like trade-in level 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:16.400 get rid of like not not even trying to sell it or anything like that because 00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:22.160 like uh what am i trying to think of right now samsung s3s at t apparently gives you 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:26.160 store credit on your recycled phone i don't even uh what what about not store 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:30.160 credit what about the other way around someone on that phone yeah 00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:34.960 because that's not solving the store credit isn't solving the recycling problem which is i think the main reason 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:37.680 why Linus is excited is the the recycling problem you're 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:41.680 giving people these phones that would just end up landfilled or 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.440 yeah because i don't know how much of a phone you can actually properly recycle 00:38:43.520 --> 00:38:49.359 yeah so i want them to just like hand you a phone and cash 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.400 that's how i want it to work and you can like go buy a burger with your cash if 00:38:51.200 --> 00:38:55.920 you really want to if you're willing to lock into a very short term i think that 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.520 would be really neat yeah i don't expect it to be a ton of money or me i liked 00:38:57.520 --> 00:39:02.480 what you said about the what we'll pay your first two months kind of idea yeah 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:05.520 or something like that yeah like that's actually pretty cool you can get a phone 00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:09.599 you don't have to pay for it for a while the phone is free imagine if carriers 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:14.320 were confident enough in their service that they were willing to offer a try 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:16.000 before you buy 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:18.480 maybe this is just a fantastic i would i would only be scared of people running 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:22.560 away with the phones but then if you're doing like low-end used phones 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:27.920 speaking of trying before you buy we should probably do our sponsor segment 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:29.359 here so hotspot shield has their trial 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:34.720 of their elite service which you can go ahead and head over to bit dot please 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:37.280 slash hs share go there download the 00:39:34.720 --> 00:39:40.960 elite trial and give it a shot we actually had to use hotspot shield for 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:46.560 something not that long ago we have a new sponsor that asked us to go on their 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:48.240 website and and uh pick out some like 00:39:46.560 --> 00:39:54.320 like a try at home thing but the canadian site doesn't offer that service 00:39:50.720 --> 00:39:56.000 and they have the most bulletproof geo 00:39:54.320 --> 00:40:00.480 lock that i think i have ever encountered and like i bought a google 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:05.760 glass from canada they were more hardcore than google 00:40:02.720 --> 00:40:07.280 glass which was really difficult like to 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:11.119 to figure out how to buy one if you weren't in the us so anyway we were 00:40:09.040 --> 00:40:14.480 trying to like pick out these things and the only way we could get on their site 00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:18.160 was to use hotspot shields so hotspot shield allows you to fake your location 00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:21.839 which is great for all kinds of things you can access content that otherwise 00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:26.079 might be firewalled in your country it's funny we've actually had quite a few 00:40:23.359 --> 00:40:30.480 people comment that hotspot shield's website is blocked in their country 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:34.160 don't worry there are other websites where you can download hotspot shield 00:40:32.720 --> 00:40:37.839 you won't be able to use our link but you can oh man because they don't want 00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:41.520 people using hotspot shield to circumvent censorship 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:45.440 so you can circumvent those kinds of things you can also use it with also 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:48.880 it's not hotspot shield blocking them no oh 00:40:46.240 --> 00:40:52.880 yeah it's the actual firewall blocking people from circumventing the firewall 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:56.240 with hotspot shields so so a hotspot shield works on your desktop on your 00:40:54.640 --> 00:41:00.160 phone on your tablet on whatever else the case may be allows you to circumvent 00:40:58.319 --> 00:41:03.520 those kinds of pesky blocks as well as circumvent other geo restrictions like 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.520 from video streaming services like netflix although the word on the street 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:10.960 is that hulu is cracking down on vpn users in general 00:41:09.359 --> 00:41:15.280 has there been an update to that i don't know if there's been an update to that but that was definitely a thing yeah i 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:20.160 don't think netflix wasn't a part of that netflix wasn't part of that so you can definitely still use a lot of video 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:23.839 streaming services with hotspot shield you can decide oh i want to be from 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.200 great britain i want to be from us i've had people who tried hot spot shields so 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.960 guys do give it a try i've had people try it and say hey lioness it's load down my internet 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.920 like you don't use hot spot shield when you're gaming it's a one button to turn 00:41:34.240 --> 00:41:39.760 it on and off you don't use it when you're gaming because your ping times 00:41:37.359 --> 00:41:45.359 will be terrible because you are intentionally redirecting all of the 00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:46.960 data to a different country yeah before 00:41:45.359 --> 00:41:52.160 it goes to wherever it needs to go i mean the server could be down the street from you you could normally get like 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:56.640 three millisecond pings and and you're redirecting it to like the uk and back 00:41:54.800 --> 00:42:00.960 the amount of people that are convinced that i i play counter strike in valve 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:05.119 headquarters is amazing because i somehow get five ping when playing 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.920 counter-strike right so everyone's just like oh my god if i'm ping and i'm like 00:42:06.319 --> 00:42:12.560 yeah i'm on land i'm at valve hq like whoa cool i've convinced so many people 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:16.640 that's totally off topic but fantastic i thought it was awesome all right our 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:20.960 other sponsor of the show today is ASUS with the g750jz 00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:25.520 you can see that both luke and i are powered by this particular gaming 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:28.079 notebook and food 00:42:25.520 --> 00:42:33.599 we're also powered by food and basically what this is it is is it is is it is is 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:39.599 it is a cream of the cream gaming notebook with a gtx 8adm and the big 00:42:36.319 --> 00:42:42.160 thing here is that it exists within a 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:48.880 pricing realm that is actually not that different from something like a 00:42:45.040 --> 00:42:50.560 gaming desktop is it exactly the same no 00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:54.640 could you get a slightly better value for your dollar with a gaming desktop in 00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:59.520 terms of sheer FPS per money spent out of your pocket yes but the point is that 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:03.359 it's not completely out to lunch anymore and it does have the added benefit of 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:09.280 being portable the coolest thing i think about it is the fact that the gtx 880m 00:43:06.240 --> 00:43:13.599 inside here i mean we've known forever 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:16.000 that the m version is not the same 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:19.520 no as the not m version that goes in a desktop machine but what we've never 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:25.200 seen before is only a one generational gap 00:43:23.359 --> 00:43:29.040 between the m version and the desktop version 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:33.760 this is almost equivalent other than the memory clock speed to a gtx 770 so 00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:38.640 you're getting a very satisfactory gaming experience in recent titles like 00:43:35.839 --> 00:43:43.200 bioshock infinite battlefield 4 on a notebook because it's actually clocked 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:48.560 at almost the same speed as a 770 desktop card which if you guys remember 00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:52.319 is about equivalent to a gtx 680 so 00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:54.160 that's only flagship wise one end and an 00:43:52.319 --> 00:43:58.079 increment because we got the 780 and then the 780 ti so like one increment 00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:01.920 and then one full generation back from a current flagship desktop card which i 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:05.440 think is really really cool it also runs cool enough that we can actually survive 00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:09.680 this show with them on our lap yeah they're actually not bad no sweat marks 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:12.880 on the bottom i've i've had laptops before that if like because i'm wearing 00:44:11.359 --> 00:44:19.040 shorts right now you're wearing jeans so you might have survived but like it's sitting on my bare knees and if it was 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:23.119 bad i i would not be comfortable right now and it's totally fine so there you 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:26.079 go guys thank you huge thank you to our sponsors hotspot shield and ASUS who 00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:32.640 also happens to be the presenting sponsor that's why that laptop sits there uh for providing us with these 00:44:30.319 --> 00:44:37.119 notebooks and these vpns that we legitimately need to do our jobs 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:41.040 yeah yeah uh one thing that i want to bring up really quickly i don't have this as a 00:44:39.520 --> 00:44:44.079 topic because one i don't live in the states in two this is a very deep topic 00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:47.680 and i don't have time to fully research it but fcc chairman whatever his name is 00:44:46.319 --> 00:44:52.400 something wheeler people are trying to get him kicked out because he's doing a whole bunch of bull 00:44:50.319 --> 00:44:55.359 crap and there's stuff going on so if you live in the states and you're 00:44:53.599 --> 00:45:01.200 interested in net neutrality and all that kind of stuff maybe do some research on fcc chairman tom wheeler 00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:06.160 someone just said it in the chat yeah chat is so useful except when it's just 00:45:03.520 --> 00:45:09.760 a bunch of nonsense yeah and like gets me angry calls from sponsors about how 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.680 like our content is obscene yeah all right so 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:18.400 let's go ahead and do that twitter blitz we promised you guys professor nick butler can you comment on 00:45:17.359 --> 00:45:25.119 a hypothetical Corsair RGB keyboard release date oh man 00:45:21.520 --> 00:45:26.880 i'm sorry i can't what i will tell you 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:31.760 is that i okay they didn't show off RGB at pax 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:36.160 no but i believe they are planning to show 00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:40.800 it at computex that is all that i know i know that 00:45:39.040 --> 00:45:44.960 barrington one of the watchers of the wine show and the after party has 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:49.200 apparently won one of them they had that contest thing going on really so he's 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:53.839 getting it whenever it comes out i guess so barrington will probably be a good 00:45:50.720 --> 00:45:56.560 person to ask because when he or she him 00:45:53.839 --> 00:45:59.040 him when he gets his tracking number well 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:03.680 we'll know yeah we'll know that either Corsair is shipping him a brick 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.599 watch oh my god that would be the best troll ever if they shipped everyone like membrane 00:46:06.319 --> 00:46:13.280 keyboards and they're like you can use these until the new one shows up is just 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.760 a trick would that be like a good viral 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:19.680 thing okay like remember when microsoft did the whole like uh xbox one in the 00:46:18.240 --> 00:46:24.480 shark tank thing yeah if it turned out that that xbox was 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:30.319 actually full of like lizard on trails or something like is that funny or is 00:46:27.040 --> 00:46:32.640 that just them like like does that get 00:46:30.319 --> 00:46:36.000 i think the sharks would eat it right 00:46:33.839 --> 00:46:39.440 okay let's just move on in portugal carrier locked and no contract a bunch 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:44.560 of phone pricing in dollars that probably i can't relate to oh that looks 00:46:42.160 --> 00:46:49.280 like corrected is that us lg g2 for 622 isn't that cheap 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:53.200 no that galaxy s5 for 900 bucks actually 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:57.359 i'm gonna do my thoughts on the galaxy s5 as well as the gear fit later on in 00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.960 the show so how much did g2s cost then uh i don't know less than that i think 00:46:59.200 --> 00:47:05.359 any chance biosubject for example that devil's canyon k 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:11.119 cpus will work on d87 motherboards and if not why um i doubt it um often aside 00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:15.760 from updating the chipset even when there's no socket change Intel will 00:47:13.040 --> 00:47:20.960 update the electrical specifications of the socket to be capable of things like 00:47:18.640 --> 00:47:24.560 tighter voltage regulation for example so a lot of the time you'll get newer 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:31.359 motherboards so for example very late lga 775 motherboards could 00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:32.640 work with almost every previous lga 775 00:47:31.359 --> 00:47:37.200 CPU but then the later lga 775 cpus were 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:42.240 like barely backwards compatible if at all and that that was probably the best 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:46.720 example of a very long-lasting socket whose compatibility actually 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:50.160 forward and backward wasn't very strong so it's 650 bucks 00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:54.079 are you gonna make a video about the april updates to shield uh there is some 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:58.240 really cool stuff i had not planned on a dedicated video we have talked about 00:47:55.680 --> 00:48:02.160 them on WAN Show before apparently something about a recipe from 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.599 canada thank you barnacles silver makes me wonder what the gold 00:48:03.839 --> 00:48:10.960 tier would be if they add one you know what i don't think there's any rumored 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:14.960 gold tier i think the the the Android program is just called silver 00:48:13.359 --> 00:48:19.440 but who knows i guess they're leaving themselves flexibility up and down 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:23.280 yeah seriously platinum deer will you guys ever come to 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.920 dreamhack we're not really planning on it right 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:31.680 now but that's not to say that anything's impossible yeah watching lan show on a toilet 00:48:32.839 --> 00:48:38.160 okay touch screens are the work of the devil 00:48:36.240 --> 00:48:41.840 we've we've gotten off topic a little bit something about not liking maple 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.760 syrup barnacles get off my twitter feed 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:49.599 i don't even know if that guy's watching in sweden there's a 14-day free trial 00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:53.359 for phones and contracts can only be used once per person but it's great why 00:48:51.680 --> 00:48:57.119 is sweden so progressive about everything because they're awesome 00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:02.079 and they're from scandinavian scandinavia is awesome um i'm in a 00:48:59.520 --> 00:49:05.599 dilemma you can't cameras i think the 12 hertz thing is a troll from the new egg 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:11.280 guys ah because our equipment is so much better 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:16.000 than theirs and the skill the operators using them 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:19.839 and the people in front of them i know everything about our operations is just 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:23.920 vastly superior you know what's funny you know what's funny is they were 00:49:21.520 --> 00:49:28.480 closing in on the ncix tech tips channel in terms of subscribers like they were 00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:34.240 they got really close and then all of a sudden a completely untrained group of 00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:36.400 people came into the nci ex tech tips 00:49:34.240 --> 00:49:41.839 of whom there are about a third as many as the newegg tv team and then with me 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:44.640 coming in like five hours a week they took off again 00:49:43.359 --> 00:49:49.920 and now they're growing way faster than new egg tv again so you know if we oh 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:53.200 that's the new paul eat it kyle eat it 00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:56.800 joanne you're not there anymore but you can eat it too steve was steve can eat 00:49:55.200 --> 00:50:00.720 it what i mean steve can eat something pleasant 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:05.040 like cake yeah there we go but he can still eat it actually paul's really nice 00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:08.960 too but still still eat it eat it uh most companies second second-hand 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.480 phones to emerging countries and send yeah yeah that's that's i actually had 00:50:11.200 --> 00:50:17.200 no idea that's pretty cool yeah i'm aware of that but it's usually like 00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:21.280 super old crappy stuff like what i would like to see is a program more like hey 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:26.960 here's the last gen one that's like i'm saying like threes yeah stuff like that or whatever 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:32.240 it seems i've been banned from talking about 12 hertz master race yeah that sounds about right 00:50:29.680 --> 00:50:36.880 um sasktel will give you 250 for anything including their tv internet and 00:50:34.240 --> 00:50:40.160 phone but that's got to be like if you sign up for a new one that's not helping 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.200 the recycling thing again this transitions well into one of our topics 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:47.280 we're actually going to be talking about google class as bond cost being 80 so 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:51.839 why don't we why don't we move on to our next topic for now 00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:55.280 what do we have well next is the heartbleed criminal 00:50:53.520 --> 00:50:59.839 data thing and then something something something i'm so 00:50:57.040 --> 00:51:04.880 excited about harrison ford and mark hamill and carrie fisher 00:51:02.160 --> 00:51:08.480 and like ah everyone's gonna be in the new movie i just hope they don't screwed 00:51:06.720 --> 00:51:11.440 up you know 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:16.160 with all the stuff see this is why it scares me with everything that i've seen 00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:17.440 so far it looks awesome with everything 00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:21.680 that i had seen at a certain point in time with elder 00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:26.240 scrolls online it looks awesome and now i won't touch it or even be within a 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:29.280 vicinity of it because it's disgusting in my personal opinion if you like it 00:51:27.520 --> 00:51:34.160 i'm sorry but i don't like it okay well okay just let's all just back 00:51:31.839 --> 00:51:36.720 up first there's a high possibility of things screwing up kingdom of the 00:51:35.359 --> 00:51:40.800 crystal skull poopy you know i think it could have been good 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:44.640 but george lucas was involved 00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:48.720 and therefore yeah um now 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:52.720 the whole throwing out the expanded universe thing i i have mixed feelings 00:51:51.200 --> 00:51:56.079 on because there was a lot of stuff from the expanded universe that was quite 00:51:54.319 --> 00:51:59.920 frankly a hundred times better than anything 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:06.000 in that was canon really good a lot of it was fantastic i i do see that even 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:09.680 though they've thrown it out they it's not like they haven't left in the 00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:13.680 possibility to adopt parts of it 00:52:11.680 --> 00:52:18.960 which i think is great but to me it's a little bit frustrating 00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:22.079 that they that they basically went okay no the whole thing is scrapped and they 00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:28.559 kind of just they all that's all they've told us when there is so much lore that is so 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:33.359 plausible and so good and really doesn't need to be reimagined 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:37.040 that they could have just left alone but right now i think what is it clone 00:52:35.040 --> 00:52:42.319 wars tv show which i i saw a little bit of once and 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:46.319 holy cow was it ever terrible i never watched it clone wars animated 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:50.800 series prequels and then the three original movies means that of the body 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:54.720 of work that is now considered canon most of it isn't very good 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:58.559 yeah that's why i'm scared which is a real shame but like they do they are 00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:04.559 lining up the right things like you said they have the actors back and so as far 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:06.559 as i've heard so far um ford is like the 00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:10.720 main focus is he not i don't know han solo i'm not sure as 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:15.760 far as i've heard he's the main focus of the movie which actually could be kind 00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:19.599 of good i don't i don't know i mean okay i uh 00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:25.520 maybe and maybe this is me being kind of crazy but i would actually like for 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:27.280 episode seven to be the last time we see 00:53:25.520 --> 00:53:31.280 mark hamill carrie fisher harrison yeah but it could be a really good transition 00:53:29.520 --> 00:53:36.160 like they could introduce new characters with it or do something i mean 00:53:34.319 --> 00:53:39.200 one possibility and i'd love it if this is what they're doing i don't i don't 00:53:37.680 --> 00:53:43.280 know what they're doing i mean what i would love to see because they are they 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:47.839 have a system like they have a team of people that are dedicated to curating 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:53.200 content and making it deciding what's canon and what's not what i would love 00:53:49.839 --> 00:53:54.160 to see them do is actually skip a bunch 00:53:53.200 --> 00:54:00.880 again because if you look at the original at the original first movie you have to do 00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:03.760 yeah but but like skip skip a lot oh oh 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:08.640 yeah so actually create an intermediary story that could easily be filled in by 00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:12.480 having the original people do voice acting for example for digital 00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:16.319 representations of themselves so through video games or or through animated 00:54:15.359 --> 00:54:21.680 series series because even if their voice is gonna sound a little bit older it'll be 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:27.280 easier to portray that on a younger character and that would be believable and you can do a whole lot with 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:29.599 editing with editing and so so i mean that's what i would like to see them do 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:36.079 because you look at even the original three movies there's a there's a pretty significant chunk of time 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:42.640 between even those movies it's like the rebellion goes from existing on like 00:54:39.520 --> 00:54:44.880 yavin 4 like that's the entire rebel 00:54:42.640 --> 00:54:47.760 alliance to like all of a sudden now they've got a fleet and then like all of 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.839 a sudden well now they have like a badass fleet and like salmon piloting 00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:57.920 their ships and they can win a major battle yeah so 00:54:55.359 --> 00:55:01.359 there's a lot of room here for a lot of the expanded universe stuff to still 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:05.200 work if they skip forward enough 00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:09.680 if you see what i mean yeah no i actually definitely agree with that i like that idea they've already done it 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:13.280 once so like i don't think anyone's gonna protest too much 00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:17.920 so that's what i want but i i don't know i don't know i just i 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:23.839 i don't want to get my hopes up too much because exactly i i used to be 00:55:21.359 --> 00:55:28.000 a pretty hardcore star wars buff like knew everything i think compared to the 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:32.480 vast majority of people you still would be so 00:55:29.839 --> 00:55:38.160 i just i really want it to be good i loved what abrams did with star trek yep 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:41.920 really liked it for sure but i was never a huge star trek guy i was never a 00:55:40.640 --> 00:55:47.119 trekkie i think we were both on the star wars bandwagon more than this so the 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:49.520 potential here for me to be disappointed is it's like phantom menace all over 00:55:48.720 --> 00:55:55.839 again potentially i really don't think abrams could make a movie that i don't think so 00:55:53.680 --> 00:56:00.000 which is like that helps a lot and the actors coming in helps a lot and 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:04.400 everything that i've gotten so far helps a lot i'm just still trying to disengage 00:56:02.640 --> 00:56:09.520 as much as i can i mean okay okay the one part of me is like who's in florida 00:56:07.520 --> 00:56:13.200 but then one part of me too is like the fact that they brought in all of them 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:17.040 were either gonna end up with this weird like fan service thing where they bring 00:56:15.680 --> 00:56:20.720 them in just to give them like a little bit of screen time or we're gonna end up 00:56:19.200 --> 00:56:25.839 with this thing where they give them way too much screen time and it just doesn't make any sense because they're all 00:56:23.200 --> 00:56:30.559 decrepit now i wouldn't mind just like closures on certain parts like like fan 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:34.640 service but like closure that makes sense or 00:56:32.160 --> 00:56:38.720 flashback style stuff what if like movie number one opening scene 00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:42.319 they kill luke skywalker how do you feel about that what if mark 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:48.559 hamill comes back in for just long enough to say there is another sky walk 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.480 up and dies like if they do it in a way 00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:54.079 that makes sense i would be okay with it because i mean i think there's a lot of 00:56:51.680 --> 00:56:58.480 potential for us to see an obi-wan kenobi type role for him yeah where 00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:02.880 maybe okay maybe they don't kill them in the opening scene but i think there's a lot of potential for i definitely i 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.280 don't mind uh especially when it's been this long 00:57:05.040 --> 00:57:13.480 like because okay i have to draw this in sorry everyone but firefly people have 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.480 talked about 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:19.839 that was awkward yeah people have talked about um firefly sequels and what could 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:23.839 possibly happen if they brought into season two and all kinds of stuff in the past so i've seen some of this 00:57:22.319 --> 00:57:28.480 theorizing and you kind of need to either kill people 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:33.680 yeah or move them off to the side in some way yeah or get rid of them or just 00:57:31.359 --> 00:57:36.160 put them in weird auxiliary auxiliary roles or something like that maybe keep 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:41.599 one or two but you can't necessarily keep the whole group because people will have grown up and changed and their 00:57:39.200 --> 00:57:45.760 acting styles can change how how their mannerisms work can change and it won't 00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:51.040 feel the same so but if they moved him into like you had just said um 00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:53.680 a obi-wan kenobi type role i actually think that could work really well 00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:58.000 someone just said they can't kill luke because he exists in a lot of the expanded universe stuff and not all of 00:57:56.240 --> 00:58:00.960 it was scrapped except if they skipped forward far enough to his death then 00:57:59.680 --> 00:58:06.319 there's plenty of time to fill in the intermediary stuff which is what he was saying before which is exactly what i 00:58:03.839 --> 00:58:10.799 was talking about yeah um anyway so moving on to our next actual topic 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:14.880 because i don't know how we ended up talking about that i actually was going 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:18.640 to ask you how we got there i i don't remember no clue dylan's delons will 00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:22.720 know shout out to delons we never do that he 00:58:20.799 --> 00:58:26.480 actually does the timetable that goes in the archive on youtube shout out to 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:29.760 ghost because the doc yeah because helping us work on the doc we actually 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:34.400 have some pretty cool community helpers helping us with the show it helps with the land show a lot lately pretty 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:39.040 fantastic people overall all right so let's talk about this article on bbc 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:43.280 heartbleed used to uncover data from cyber criminals 00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:46.319 are you a crime middle are you a criminal 00:58:44.720 --> 00:58:49.599 i'm not a criminal you don't get the reference it's okay i 00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:54.799 only hate you a little bit for not getting it is that all right spaceballs go ahead 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:58.880 i'm not sure um so heartbleed has apparently been used to track down black 00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:02.400 hat hackers black hat hackers are like the ones that are maliciously trying to 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:06.400 hurt people like steal credit card data and all that kind of stuff gray hat is 00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:11.119 when they kind of float on both sides and white hat is when people are trying 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:13.760 to hack but for the greater good um so 00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:19.839 they've been using this to access closed forums such as dark ode and damage lab 00:59:17.359 --> 00:59:24.640 and according to wired smart devices such as home routers cctv cameras baby 00:59:22.240 --> 00:59:29.839 monitors and home management gadgets were now known to be vulnerable 00:59:29.839 --> 00:59:35.040 i always feel such awkwardly on the fence with this kind of stuff because 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:38.640 it's like i don't want you guys to use this to track people 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:45.040 but then you stopped bad people potentially but that's the whole argument 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:49.359 that's how the nsa starts monitoring us yeah 00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:52.240 bad people i wouldn't be surprised is why this article even came out in the 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:58.000 first place because they're like no we're not terrible so just 00:59:55.839 --> 01:00:00.559 remember that when listening to this article or if you read it later or 00:59:59.359 --> 01:00:04.400 anything like well no this was anti-malware researchers after hartley 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:10.559 was exposed i think yes yeah so i don't know so they were 01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:10.559 using it to track people 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:19.680 i don't know i could make terrible analogies i'm not going to bother of any things that exist that you could use in 01:00:17.839 --> 01:00:22.640 bad ways and that doesn't mean that government entities should be able to go 01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:27.599 around the law to be able to use them and all kind of stuff 01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:31.440 and also cyber law is really confusing and weird anyways and a lot of it 01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:34.880 doesn't even exist can you break the law to stop lawbreakers 01:00:33.359 --> 01:00:38.160 it's i mean it's you can turn this into a whole long 01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:41.839 conversation about capital punishment yeah can you murder someone to stop 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:46.240 murdering this is a really big topic right now isn't it yeah it's a huge deal because 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:49.440 of the lethal injection like yeah and then they screw what's 01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:53.520 going on right now so the supplier of what they were using 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:58.640 for lethal injections and this is all paraphrasing my wife's been following it really closely because she's a 01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:02.000 pharmacist so the the drug aspect of all this is fascinating to her because 01:01:00.319 --> 01:01:06.240 pharmacists anyway those things are interesting i 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:10.799 guess uh so so the drug supplier that was supplying the the drugs for lethal 01:01:08.319 --> 01:01:14.640 injections was getting threatened to the point where they were like okay look 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:18.640 we're not going to supply it anymore so they had to source alternate drugs from 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:22.240 alternate sources that they were keeping secret and then basically what was 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:25.599 happening was you were supposed to do one drug and then another one and then 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:30.400 there was a collapsed vein somewhere in the mix and the first drug is supposed 01:01:27.359 --> 01:01:30.400 to make the patient 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:36.319 victim um 01:01:33.839 --> 01:01:36.319 prisoner 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:44.880 uh anyway the person the cute the sure executed thank you um cutie 01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:50.079 it doesn't really work you can't spell execute e without cutie um so so 01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:54.319 supposed to make them unconscious and then the subsequent injection or 01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:58.960 injections were supposed to do the deed so to speak but there have been cases 01:01:56.720 --> 01:02:02.319 where they appear to be trying to get out of the chair 01:02:00.319 --> 01:02:06.559 which would imply that the pain that they're undergoing is also accompanied 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:09.680 by some level of consciousness so 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:13.520 i actually don't understand how we got on this topic again anyway that's like a 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:17.920 huge deal right now people were also wondering if it was intentional i really 01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:22.319 don't know the details of the story very well this was not a planned discussion 01:02:19.839 --> 01:02:25.839 so sorry if i'm wrong but apparently he took a very long prolonged time to kill 01:02:24.720 --> 01:02:29.680 someone so like watched them suffer so people 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:34.720 were like well maybe someone set it up so that he was suffering 01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:38.720 which like i don't know it all starts to sound like 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:41.680 a movie plot it does which is part of the problem which isn't to say that that 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:46.960 movie won't be based on a true story of what's happening right now yeah 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:49.200 again i i don't i just like i might have heard this on the radio i don't even 01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:53.200 remember where i got it from this was not a planned topic sorry if i'm wrong i could definitely be wrong don't take 01:02:52.160 --> 01:02:57.760 that as um that's about as disclaimed as 01:02:55.359 --> 01:03:01.760 anything has ever been ever yeah exactly yeah so huge thanks to rainfall within 01:02:59.680 --> 01:03:06.000 for posting the heartbleed cybercriminal thing on the forum that's what we were 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:10.720 talking about um apple iwatch production has allegedly begun and this was posted 01:03:08.720 --> 01:03:14.880 by alex goes high thank you very much for that original article is from next 01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:20.000 powerup so we're gonna go ahead and head over there this is a concept by the way 01:03:17.839 --> 01:03:22.640 this is not actually what it's going to look like 01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:28.079 fortunately because i don't wouldn't buy that so the china times has reported 01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:32.079 that apple has gone into production so the rumor is that during the first 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:38.319 quarter of product availability there's going to be anywhere from two and a half to three and a half million units of 01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:44.960 iwatch so that's in q2 and in the second quarter production is rumored to be 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:48.559 going to leap to 14 to 15 million units 01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:50.960 i plan to buy one i plan to try it 01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:54.559 and i will see what i think about it is there is there plans for like a 01:03:52.319 --> 01:03:58.720 blackberry watch and a Windows watch i i know microsoft microsoft has 01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:02.480 acknowledged the wearable market i don't know that there's an actual plan okay or 01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:06.319 anything i think something interesting that we could do is a whole ecosystem 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:09.200 comparison video right get our hands on a Windows phone actually nokia has 01:04:07.680 --> 01:04:14.240 offered to send us a Windows phone to try out i actually need to get back to them um because i would definitely do 01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:18.000 that if you are ingrained in an ecosystem so you have their watch you 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:21.920 have their phone you have their os how well does it all work together how not 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:24.400 necessarily comparing like the os because we know a lot of people 01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:30.160 including myself and a lot of the viewers aren't going to like um os 10 01:04:27.839 --> 01:04:33.680 but like comparing how well they sync together and all that stuff like if 01:04:32.160 --> 01:04:38.160 there's if there's ihome or whatever like getting that kind of stuff too i think that could be pretty interesting 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:41.200 speaking of uh how well things within the same ecosystem work together i think 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:47.119 i'll use this as an opportunity to give my thoughts on the galaxy s5 so samsung 01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.920 sent me a galaxy s5 as well as a gear 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:52.400 fit i didn't have long enough with them i only had them for about a week so i 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.680 didn't have long enough with them to do a full review but what i told samsung is 01:04:54.799 --> 01:04:59.760 uh um okay sure send it to me for a week 01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:04.559 i'm not gonna do a review but i'll talk about it on my show so um i'm just this 01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:08.640 is just my here just to give you guys oh sorry just to give you guys some idea 01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:12.400 this is what my notes look like before i turn it into a script that 01:05:10.799 --> 01:05:16.000 makes any kind of sense they're not in any particular order these are just 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:20.640 notes that i make to myself as i observe them so i apologize if this is a little 01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:24.880 bit disjointed um i was impressed that even though the plastickiness of the 01:05:22.799 --> 01:05:28.640 galaxy series is still very much there the actual flex to the phone is much 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:32.319 less than the previous generation s4 and i don't think samsung got enough credit 01:05:30.319 --> 01:05:37.520 for that they managed to make the phone a lot more rigid without actually making 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:41.440 it you know out of a solid piece of metal the same way that other premium 01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:44.880 phone makers do which isn't to say that i necessarily think that justifies 01:05:43.520 --> 01:05:49.920 making all your phones out of plastic but whatever um i hate the positioning 01:05:47.680 --> 01:05:53.039 of the lock button directly opposed to volume 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:58.559 it just seems like nobody can get this right nobody can find two spots on a 01:05:55.920 --> 01:06:03.039 phone to put volume and lock where you don't have to press all of them apple 01:06:00.319 --> 01:06:07.119 gets it more right than most g2 yes apple gets it more right than most 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:10.079 because their buttons are stiff enough that you won't accidentally press them 01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:14.880 when you're trying to press one or the other but on the galaxy s5 i was 01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:18.400 constantly accidentally mashing the volume when i was trying to lock or 01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:22.160 unlock the phone an issue i don't have nearly as much with the one because you 01:06:20.160 --> 01:06:25.280 can wake it up by tapping on the screen another thing that the g2 which you 01:06:23.680 --> 01:06:29.599 don't have anymore does really well back to the going back 01:06:27.839 --> 01:06:34.720 to a hardware home button really felt like a step backwards um when i did my 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:39.760 1m8 review i talked about how i felt like it was a mixed bag 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:42.240 but i had never tried to go from my 1m7 01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:47.599 to my 1m8 and then back to the 1m7 with its hardware buttons and what i realized 01:06:44.799 --> 01:06:52.400 is that going back after having used the 1m8 for so long 01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:55.119 really felt like a last generation implementation i've gotten used to them 01:06:54.240 --> 01:07:00.000 now the extra width is more noticeable 01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:03.280 than you would think due to the thicker edges so that's the width of the phone 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:08.559 physically itself i couldn't figure out what i was talking about until the end there um so 01:07:06.240 --> 01:07:12.559 even though the htc one m8 is quite long in order to accommodate those boom sound 01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:16.480 speakers i i really like the speakers i'm willing to make that trade-off and 01:07:14.319 --> 01:07:21.039 on the s5 that width really made it challenging for me to use it because of 01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:23.119 my small hands but um 01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:27.119 the shape and all that basically it was not it was not easy for me to handle 01:07:24.799 --> 01:07:31.520 compared to the one i made um with that said everyone's making fun of the 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:35.200 backing material on the s5 i like it it reminds me of the first gen nexus 7 and 01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:41.039 i think it's great that's that grippiness is probably the one thing that made the phone somewhat manageable 01:07:39.359 --> 01:07:46.400 for me because i really didn't find the shape that easy for me to hold the one 01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:48.160 m8 by contrast especially the 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:52.079 titanium version the one that i have is quite slippery 01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:56.960 another contrast between the one i made and the galaxy s5 is the crummy speaker 01:07:54.640 --> 01:08:01.760 positioning it is so noticeable coming from a device with 01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:05.119 front-facing speakers going to something like the iphone 5 with them bottom 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:10.640 mounted speakers or something like the galaxy s5 with that horrendous 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:14.240 rear-mounted speaker implementation that was one thing that i wanted to bring up 01:08:11.680 --> 01:08:18.400 actually is you you scalded it slightly for the hardware home button yes do you 01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:23.520 feel the same way about that one no the thing that i don't like about the i 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:27.040 because this button has other functionality even if it's just a 01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:31.359 fingerprint reader okay and having the you know okay so 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.960 it's not the home button i guess that bothered me it was the multitasking and 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:38.960 the back because i like the way that things shift 01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:42.319 around contextually when i rotate the phone whereas with this it's just one 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:46.159 button it's just always one button whereas if it's things that can actually 01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:50.000 change a little bit and can indicate oh hey right now you're going to be lowering your keyboard versus right now 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:54.640 you're going to be going back within your program i like that and i've gotten 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:59.359 used to that right um anyway rear mounted speakers are 01:08:56.080 --> 01:09:01.440 terrible they need to go away um 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:05.199 prompting about default oh oh this is good i originally had this down as a 01:09:03.679 --> 01:09:10.480 really positive point about the phone because i had to look up not that long 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:12.080 ago how to unbind default applications 01:09:10.480 --> 01:09:15.679 for actions within Android because it's pretty hidden samsung 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:19.600 this the when you actually bind something by default says hey here's how 01:09:17.839 --> 01:09:24.080 you undo it and the only issue is it comes up every time 01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:27.920 and i was like really like there's no go away there's probably a way to disable 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:32.159 the notification somewhere within the touchwiz settings but i was just i was 01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:35.759 amazed because or something yeah but it came up every time um i don't mind 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:40.880 samsung's keyboard but like so many things in touch with i really feel like it takes up too much of the precious 01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:44.640 screen real estate uh gesture based smartwatch waking is still terrible i 01:09:42.719 --> 01:09:48.640 guess i'm shifting gears to the gear fit now so i the whole time i was using the 01:09:46.719 --> 01:09:52.880 s5 i switched from my pebble to the gear fit and there are some things about it 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:57.440 that i like the screen is beautiful i think the industrial design is a lot 01:09:54.719 --> 01:10:02.400 better than the pebble but gesture base waking is terrible and if you're gonna 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:06.640 have gesture-based waking make it a flick like pebble to turn on the 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:10.000 backlight don't make it this contrived thing 01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:13.600 samsung had every opportunity to just make it so i can flick it or tap it in 01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:18.159 order to see what's on the screen and they didn't do it it's just asinine and 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:21.120 the battery life on it is good enough that they should at least give you the 01:10:19.360 --> 01:10:24.880 option because it lasted a good five or six days in the default scheme where the 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:28.719 screen was barely ever on and if it was on more often when i'm just waving 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:33.120 around and i only got two or three days out of it i could probably live with 01:10:31.120 --> 01:10:36.480 that a lot more than i could you know having the screen on all the time and 01:10:35.360 --> 01:10:43.440 having it get having only getting like one day out of it 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:47.520 um i understand the htc chin bar now 01:10:43.440 --> 01:10:50.320 the back button on the s5 is so low that 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:54.560 it's actually uncomfortable to reach so having that chin bar on the one is a 01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:59.120 more natural position for the hand versus trying to force your thumb and 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:03.040 contort it down here so as much as the chin bar was something i complained 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:07.520 about in my one m8 review a couple of things so number one is i get it now and 01:11:05.280 --> 01:11:10.880 number two is when i complained about the unevenness of the keyboard in 01:11:09.120 --> 01:11:14.400 landscape mode someone pointed out hey Linus if you just went this way then 01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:17.920 you'd have your software contextual buttons moved to here and the chin bar 01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:21.840 here and it would actually be centered again so 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:25.679 good design on the one i realize i'm bringing up a lot of good things about 01:11:23.120 --> 01:11:31.679 the one m8 in my s5 impressions that's five review the one m8 love story 01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:35.360 um i figured out what i don't like about touchwiz because it's really not that 01:11:33.360 --> 01:11:37.920 slow anymore oh yeah so this was the note that goes along with that 01:11:36.400 --> 01:11:42.800 information density thing information density is so low the stock messaging 01:11:40.400 --> 01:11:48.400 app makes me crazy in spite of the larger screen and no on-screen buttons 01:11:45.679 --> 01:11:51.679 there are actually fewer texts on screen compared to sense ui 01:11:50.719 --> 01:11:56.640 why and i mean you look at the way that they've talked about some of the things 01:11:55.040 --> 01:12:00.719 that they do how it's like old people optimized maybe that's what it is maybe 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:03.920 that's why i don't like it i like really high information density on my screen i 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:08.640 like to use the real estate because i can see just fine and i can i can press 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:12.480 things accurately but maybe touchwiz just isn't made for me if you if you're 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:18.320 on your samsung phone can you go to google default keyboard instead of the samsung keyboard yeah yeah yeah but that 01:12:16.719 --> 01:12:22.400 doesn't change the fact that your text app just everything takes up too much space 01:12:21.040 --> 01:12:26.560 yeah and and you can get a different text app too of course but why load it 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:29.920 with these things it's in my well not for this one but it's in my default 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:34.480 download programs for another one a custom text app so um text size scaling 01:12:32.480 --> 01:12:38.400 doesn't even help much because in things like the settings menu um ui elements 01:12:37.280 --> 01:12:44.400 are still huge they don't resize only the labels do right right uh i love the idea of the 01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:48.480 gear fit i hate the gesture thing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the strap 01:12:46.400 --> 01:12:52.159 on the gear fit is janky it's not that easy to put on it's actually did i show 01:12:50.320 --> 01:12:55.760 it to you it's just two little nubbins that go into the other side there's no 01:12:53.920 --> 01:13:00.560 actual like like just go with the tried and true on 01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:03.280 that one like why i like i understood with the original galaxy gear they 01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:07.120 wanted to put like a camera and a microphone and it's like okay i don't agree with you but i understand what 01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:10.960 you're doing with the gear fit just put a watch strap 01:13:09.679 --> 01:13:15.040 on it don't reinvent the wheel this is 01:13:13.360 --> 01:13:18.480 literally like like that is the most perfect use of don't reinvent the wheel 01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:22.239 that i have ever managed to come up with 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:27.520 you're in reinventing something that's been around for hundreds of years and is 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:29.440 tried and true it attaches here and here 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:33.360 and clasps here that is all 01:13:30.719 --> 01:13:36.960 um oh yeah and the the uh the vertical 01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:43.360 design of the of the gear fit is terrible because most of the schemes for 01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:45.440 it are right side up like this 01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:49.600 there's two watch faces for it that are right side up like this and once again 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:54.560 information density they don't take advantage of all that screen real estate 01:13:52.480 --> 01:13:59.199 what i would like to see is time here weather here the date here and like use 01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:03.360 up all that space instead it just puts like massive tall numbers like this i'm 01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:07.440 just like so you're gonna have to you're gonna have to do your like huh 01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:10.350 yeah it's gonna be like a like a martial arts 01:14:09.120 --> 01:14:12.840 like training 01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:18.000 club secretly 01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:21.920 secretly the koreans are building an army 01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:26.880 oh my goodness um that'd be epic don't 01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:30.320 do the nod thing the setup process for the gear is great when you pair it the 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:34.400 app just installs automatic jiggly automagically i think that's fantastic 01:14:32.400 --> 01:14:38.560 there's no share to youtube by default in the gallery on the s5 what which for 01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:44.000 a youtuber like me is just infuriating and you know what within the youtube app 01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:47.199 on iOS you can't just upload you can only upload to youtube from the gallery 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:53.280 so i'm just like how are these things so broken so that'll be something from my iphone 01:14:50.719 --> 01:14:58.320 5s review right i think that is pretty much it that 01:14:56.320 --> 01:15:01.840 those are my thoughts on the galaxy s5 i really don't think the build quality is 01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:07.840 as bad as people are making it out to be it's just that the industry has moved on 01:15:04.719 --> 01:15:10.480 and samsung's small improvement is not 01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:15.440 enough when you compare it to sony's latest phones htc's latest phones and 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:19.120 anything apple's made in the last since the iphone 4 i guess so in like the last 01:15:17.040 --> 01:15:24.640 four or five years right all right speaking of phones this is so 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:26.080 fantastic i love it oh yeah yeah this is 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:29.520 really cool you gotta go back up when you're done this one okay but yeah i 01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:33.840 don't even think i care that much about that bluetooth ring i just want to talk about uh 01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:37.120 the the creation that ghost and i came up with which we both think is vastly 01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:42.080 superior sure um okay so this is the pie phone it was 01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:45.040 created by a software engineer really cool 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:48.640 so cool so it's made out of a raspberry pi here do you want to walk because i 01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:52.800 got this playing for them sure uh so it's made of a raspberry pi a 01:15:50.320 --> 01:15:59.840 touchscreen which he gives the name of inside the video a 2 01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:02.080 500 milliamp hour lipo battery uh gsm 01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:07.360 gprs module and the total cost is around 158 dollars that being said 01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:12.080 he just like got it working yeah these are zip ties yeah like like 01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:16.480 yeah like literally it's zip tied together i think this is 01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:20.640 more of a like look this works you can do this not necessarily this is the best 01:16:18.480 --> 01:16:23.679 possible situation there's also some issues one of the reasons why it's not 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:27.920 in a case is because without heat sinks on it the thing gets really hot and if 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:32.320 it was actually in an enclosed case you might have problems with it so 01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:35.679 like it's not there yet right now it only supports calling so he shows here 01:16:34.400 --> 01:16:41.840 he actually does call someone unfortunately the number shows on screen and now it's blowing up but i love 01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:46.320 engineers because check this out he built a cell phone 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:49.520 and then it's presumably his wife in the background 01:16:47.440 --> 01:16:53.280 and he's uh calling the he so he calls himself he calls his own landline check 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:53.280 this out 01:16:55.120 --> 01:17:02.560 hold on a second what's my number again 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:04.640 engineers man engineers man 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:07.760 that's funny whatever man i love engineering it's really cool i had to 01:17:06.080 --> 01:17:10.960 show taran this immediately scratch builds cell phone can't remember phone 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:15.440 number whoever you are what's what's the what's 01:17:13.040 --> 01:17:20.400 the guy dude hunt david hunt you are so awesome like you are so awesome i love 01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:23.520 people that are just that into what they do yeah that what they do is more 01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:27.840 important than their own phone number yes like you are cool and it's actually pretty 01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:32.159 awesome i thought this was super cool i hope it goes further because we need to 01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:34.640 get away from the ultra attractness of everything right now because it's kind 01:17:33.440 --> 01:17:38.880 of horrible and yeah that's about it for that one an 01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:42.800 actually open source os yes unlike what Android has turned into yeah seriously 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:48.400 but then it's just a matter of time until someone turns it into not open source again so whatever uh 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:52.480 where are we moving on to okay so the the nod the nod 01:17:50.719 --> 01:17:58.080 so this was posted by topwar gamer originally on the forum and this is a 01:17:55.600 --> 01:18:01.600 bluetooth ring um should we should we just show the video of this because we 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:06.719 can demonstrates it pretty well we can show all the that probably doesn't work 01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:06.719 that wayness of the video 01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:12.560 my biggest problem with this is actually that it's based around bluetooth oh 01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:17.199 shoot i'm not screenshot because bluetooth is just like the biggest thing that doesn't work very 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:22.880 well in my opinion there's there's so many problems with it pairs but they decide 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:26.560 not to talk to each other or it won't pair or something else is paired to it i 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:29.120 know but it's still kind of rough it's gotten a lot better it's still kind of 01:18:28.080 --> 01:18:35.600 rough i don't know you like it roughly i don't think you can switch in between devices 01:18:33.280 --> 01:18:39.920 easily enough for a ring to be what i'm going to want to use and 01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:45.360 i i don't i don't i wouldn't how much is it 150 bucks 150 yeah 140 yeah 150 bucks 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:49.040 i don't think i would pay 150 for something that looks very elegant 01:18:47.360 --> 01:18:53.600 because of how well photographed it is here but it's actually 01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:56.960 super chunky yeah like this is a finger that's not even a 01:18:55.679 --> 01:19:01.440 skinny finger this is a third the width of a finger 01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:05.840 like sticking out of the inside of your hand it's really big it's it's 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:10.159 they show a guy in the video like playing halo i'm like no man 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:13.440 here's the video we'll just we'll let you guys it's really short so do you 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:17.120 want to talk about what your concept is while they check out the video okay so 01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:21.440 not just mine definitely ghost is in this as well i we we started arguing 01:19:19.440 --> 01:19:25.199 about the merits of this ring and we ended up coming up with the thing that 01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:29.520 we would rather it was right so this actually totally worked out so we would 01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:33.920 get rid of almost everything in this ring we would leave it with just the 01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:39.120 swiped texting kind of idea yeah but remove the actual ability to 01:19:36.480 --> 01:19:43.760 like do that on a tv it now only pairs with your smartwatch yeah when a text 01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.480 opens up you can read it and then 01:19:45.120 --> 01:19:50.719 come up with different shapes like you could bind shapes to different words or 01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:54.560 you could go with a keyboard mapping so like yes on a keyboard is probably not 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:59.440 going to be any other word if you're one word texting so if you went like this 01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:02.640 it types here right now okay so if you waved your hand in a shape if you wave 01:20:01.360 --> 01:20:06.800 your hand in a shape that correlates with either a keyboard design you could you could set it up however you want a 01:20:05.040 --> 01:20:10.719 keyboard design or maybe you bound it to a circle so yes is a circle 01:20:09.360 --> 01:20:14.159 so you get a message on your smart watch and you just go whoop 01:20:12.480 --> 01:20:17.120 and you can reply that way i don't like your idea i think the 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:20.880 functionality is too limited if it was like 20 bucks no that's that's why oh so 01:20:19.679 --> 01:20:26.960 you want it to be cheap that's why we're moving everything because it's supposed to be dirt cheap 01:20:24.400 --> 01:20:31.520 and nice and much much much smaller hopefully embeddable in an actual ring 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:35.360 right i think we're a few generations of technology away from a smart ring that 01:20:33.679 --> 01:20:39.840 actually makes an ounce of sense yes this one isn't it to me i might order 01:20:37.360 --> 01:20:45.920 one just to try it so that i can tell you guys how stupid it is um i like the 01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:48.480 idea just like that huge like wrist like 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:52.159 uh wrist communicator size smartwatch the neptune pine uh yeah it'll come at 01:20:50.320 --> 01:20:56.239 some point i i ordered it they're they're still progressing so sure why 01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:59.679 not uh in the thread where this was posted by topwar gamer he he said that i 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:05.360 would be super interested because i'm interested in interacting with things in different ways and he was totally right 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:08.159 and i do find this interesting i just do not think this is the one i mean in 01:21:07.040 --> 01:21:11.760 theory it allows a bunch of different stuff it can be a universal controller 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:14.880 allowing effortless communication with all of your smart devices and your 01:21:13.280 --> 01:21:18.400 connected life including phones tablets google glass watches home appliances tvs 01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:21.840 computers and more you can use it as a media controller you can use it for 01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:25.760 selfies to answer calls so you could like use it as like a remote you know 01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:28.880 camera shutter for example you can the flat surface of the ring so 01:21:27.440 --> 01:21:33.199 it's meant to be worn on the inside the way that they're wearing it which would just make it uncomfortable to work your 01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:37.280 fist the worst possible um so the flat surface of the ring is meant to be um if 01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:40.080 it has a tiny capacitive touch panel with two programmable buttons on either 01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:44.719 side and then you can type in the air similar to swipe and the battery lasts 01:21:42.080 --> 01:21:44.719 for a day 01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:51.120 yeah i'm not really interested in this one but like imagine you took almost all 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:54.480 those features out and just made it made it work with your smart watch in some 01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:59.440 sort of way that's the only thing it has to pair with do because i'm not really going to want to use this for much else 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:02.239 anyways right um that's the only thing it has to pair to so you're not going to 01:22:00.639 --> 01:22:05.679 screw around with bluetooth that much when bluetooth is only trying to do one 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:10.639 thing like if you're not repeatedly trying to pair it with a billion different things throughout your day 01:22:08.639 --> 01:22:13.679 it's actually usually pretty okay so if you pair the ring and the 01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:16.880 smartwatch and just leave it it's probably fine and then if you came up 01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:21.520 with stuff like gesture controls for doing certain things i think that could be cool because smart watches are really 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:25.679 interesting and i would like to be able to interact with them more but when 01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:28.719 we're seeing stuff like the google what is it called 01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:34.000 is it google watch i don't remember but it's essentially google now but it's the watch level 01:22:32.719 --> 01:22:38.960 oh yeah i remember reading about that yeah um that kind of stuff is a lot of voice 01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:43.120 controlled interaction which like if you're in a meeting yep 01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:48.159 you don't want to talk to your watch yeah text message mom yes that's fine 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:53.199 when you could just be like oh it's up spin done right i mean i think really 01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:57.120 for me if it's super cheap the the the holy grail is going to be 01:22:55.360 --> 01:22:59.760 some kind of eye tracking technology that i can use to control things 01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:04.480 so you know some a google glass type device 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:09.760 that is way better and way cheaper oh yeah um that i can use to 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:13.040 just kind of like do stuff quietly while people aren't paying attention 01:23:11.120 --> 01:23:16.960 yeah speaking of google okay hold on we got oh it's gonna have to be way better 01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:20.880 again two more topics that we really need to get to the teardown so one 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:23.760 posted originally by nice hat i want to do this one first because i have a poll 01:23:22.320 --> 01:23:28.320 question that i wanted oh yeah can we create a poll in the meantime sure um so 01:23:25.679 --> 01:23:35.040 businessweek.com has an article about china's plan to 01:23:31.440 --> 01:23:36.320 build a massive gaming 01:23:35.040 --> 01:23:40.560 like um they're calling it like a park but they 01:23:38.480 --> 01:23:45.920 mean park like industrial park as far as i can tell like not like with slides so 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:52.000 the idea is that the centerpiece is going to be a massive gaming stadium 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:56.400 for things like live tournaments and then around it they want to attract oops 01:23:54.239 --> 01:24:00.960 i haven't actually shown around it they want to attract 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:05.360 game companies to set up their their offices there and turn this into 01:24:03.120 --> 01:24:08.560 like a like a video gaming sort of hub 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:13.360 um fascinating 01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:17.120 my my my only problem with this is like a lot of my i have a lot of friends that 01:24:15.040 --> 01:24:20.639 watch esports like my main core group of friends pretty much everybody watches 01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:25.280 esports at some level right maybe not that much but they do watch it and the 01:24:22.719 --> 01:24:28.400 main common theme i find is it's nice that you can watch it on a tablet or 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:32.400 your computer and while i think a lot of our group 01:24:30.639 --> 01:24:35.679 would go out to these events to see these things i don't actually see a 01:24:34.080 --> 01:24:41.920 crazy amount of people doing it and one thing is that i know that when i was in korea 01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:43.520 i went to the starcraft finals it was 01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:47.920 being streamed in two places the arena that it was in and uh gum tv which is 01:24:46.400 --> 01:24:51.760 another one when i was at gome tv there was four people there 01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:55.600 and they had live casters two of the most famous casters in the world live 01:24:54.000 --> 01:25:00.239 casting it there's four people there right um okay where the actual tournament 01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:03.440 actually was with the players so you're gonna expect to see a lot more people 01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:08.560 there that make sense there was a lot more people but until the actual final 01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:13.280 round there was a few empty chairs and the there was none of the standing 01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:18.480 room was taken up the final round boom full and then everyone disappeared 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:25.120 so basically you're saying that live attendees for esports events are like 01:25:21.280 --> 01:25:25.120 vancouver canucks fans 01:25:25.679 --> 01:25:31.840 i see that correlation and like the thing is i'm sure i'm sure it will be 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:36.800 attended i just and like there's been league of legends ones where they're 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:39.199 freaking huge right my only thing is i 01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:43.360 mean they filled the staples center yeah with a tournament at that point so i 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:47.360 just they need to make it more um how do i even say it i think one of 01:25:45.679 --> 01:25:51.760 the problems with the one korean one is it wasn't very accessible so they need to make this very accessible so they're 01:25:50.080 --> 01:25:55.040 going to have a heart so your your issue is they're going to have a hard time 01:25:53.280 --> 01:26:00.560 keeping the seats full often enough to justify a facility that for the big game 01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:04.960 yeah this phase alone is going to be costing i think it was 480 million big 01:26:03.360 --> 01:26:10.239 games and big tournaments and stuff i totally see them filling it 01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:12.400 yeah so so uh 480 million just for the 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:18.400 arena and the first phase um and then 2.8 billion total 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:22.639 and if you can only fill it up with you know 15 000 fans like 01:26:21.280 --> 01:26:26.719 you know but then again 15 000 is honestly not 01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:29.600 that high of a number yeah so they might be able to fill this thing up all the 01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:33.520 time because that's not that high of a number 01:26:31.440 --> 01:26:38.719 i just don't know i'm talking about like big crazy stable center level 01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:43.520 uh stadiums i don't know if you can fill that up on like a weekly basis okay so 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:48.000 if it's part of a wider gaming themed park like facility would you consider 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:51.920 traveling there for like a trip as a tourist attraction 01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:54.960 china scares me a little bit well okay if let's say it wasn't in 01:26:53.440 --> 01:26:58.880 china would you consider traveling to something like that i went to korea to 01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:03.199 see this starcraft okay so there you go honestly i this it it works for me i 01:27:01.679 --> 01:27:08.400 would want to go see this i would go there every once in like if it was local 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:09.280 i'd love to go see games i just i worry 01:27:08.400 --> 01:27:14.560 about so i want to hear from you guys is this 01:27:11.440 --> 01:27:17.199 another crazy building project in china 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:20.159 where there's going to be entire ghost well they've already got ghost 01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:25.840 cities over in china entire cities of basically 01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:29.840 unpopulated buildings because they built all this stuff assuming that the money 01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:34.159 and the people were coming and then they they just kind of didn't is this going 01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:38.400 to be another one of those projects or is this a stroke of genius and it's 01:27:36.400 --> 01:27:42.880 amazing no one did it sooner and is this going to turn into an esports mecca 01:27:40.639 --> 01:27:47.679 personally i think this post yeah okay personally i think this one will work 01:27:45.280 --> 01:27:51.920 will it become a mecca yes or no um will it will it be will it be a success 01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:57.600 okay there uh so slick's gonna post the luke i 01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:01.520 haven't called you slick in a long time luke's gonna be posting the uh the straw 01:28:00.639 --> 01:28:05.440 poll into the chat very very shortly here in 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:10.639 the meantime there was one other topic oh yes titan z 01:28:08.719 --> 01:28:18.159 has been postponed i think this one will work that's my vote um so brown ninja 97 01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:18.159 posted this on the forum 01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:23.600 here we go i'm just going to share with you guys while you guys vote 01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:30.159 so titan z was supposedly going to be released on april 29th but according to 01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:35.360 sweet clockers plans have changed the only thing we don't know is why 01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:40.080 we do apparently have some more details about the titan z so we were looking at 01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:44.000 a 180 megahertz frequency drop compared to the original 780 ti so 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:50.639 yeah and we were looking at a cooling system that was going to be a triple 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:54.719 slot cooler the first time we've ever seen a triple slot reference cooler out 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:57.280 of NVIDIA and i think AMD i don't think anyone's ever done a triple slot 01:28:55.920 --> 01:29:02.880 reference yeah so it was um it was the 01:29:00.719 --> 01:29:07.040 rumor that the speculation and i haven't heard anything about it one way or the 01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:13.280 other is that titan z was was delayed because it's not going 01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:15.280 to be competitive with the r9 295 x2 01:29:13.280 --> 01:29:22.000 which is a liquid-cooled card that runs at the same speed as the full-fledged r9 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:22.880 290x except two of them on a single card 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:28.320 and that the titan z was going to be incredibly expensive i don't know if i 01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:34.320 necessarily buy that because the titan z was not meant to go head to head 01:29:30.639 --> 01:29:37.520 against the 295 x2 it's a compute card 01:29:34.320 --> 01:29:39.280 with 12 gigs of memory and full double 01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:43.920 precision unlockedness like it it's it's it's more 01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:47.920 of a developer card i think part of the problem is their marketing was a little 01:29:45.280 --> 01:29:52.000 bit confusing on that you could be right because they they did talk about it in 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:55.840 the in the sense and they always have with titan despite it not really being 01:29:54.080 --> 01:30:00.000 that they have always marketed it on some level as a gamer well original 01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:03.840 titan was launched as the fastest gaming gp on the planet yeah that was how it 01:30:01.679 --> 01:30:08.000 was positioned for better or for worse um and then they they talked a lot 01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:12.080 during the briefing call i remember my briefing call for titan because i was i 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:15.040 was late for my badminton ladder because i had to sit on a briefing call for 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:18.719 titan and then i had to leave the briefing call for titan make up some 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:22.159 and bull story about how my phone got disconnected so i could attend a 01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:25.120 different briefing for like a different region that wasn't one of my original 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:31.360 options so i could actually hear what they were saying because i had to go get on a badminton court but anyway um okay 01:30:29.040 --> 01:30:35.120 that's pretty funny uh but the branding was was to the reviewers it was very 01:30:33.440 --> 01:30:38.880 clear this is about double precision this is about cuda development and if 01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:43.199 gamers want to buy them then great but the way that it was positioned on like 01:30:40.400 --> 01:30:47.360 GeForce.com was not very clear and there was a lot of the symbol the same 01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:50.400 confusion about titan z so maybe because it wasn't going to be 01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:53.760 competitive with a card that it was never really created to compete with 01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:58.719 they're put in a bit of an awkward position yeah i think they might have dug their 01:30:56.320 --> 01:31:02.719 own hole here i think the bigger story here 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:06.480 is i think this is maybe the end of the 01:31:02.719 --> 01:31:08.960 line of dual GPU top end cards 01:31:06.480 --> 01:31:14.960 i've never liked them you look at what AMD AMD resorted to 01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:23.120 a prefab liquid cooler to make theirs work NVIDIA the the kings in my mind of 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:24.639 cool quiet elegant solutions not 01:31:23.120 --> 01:31:31.120 compromising on like well not obviously not going back 01:31:27.679 --> 01:31:33.120 to like the fx 5800 days but but of late 01:31:31.120 --> 01:31:38.320 the NVIDIA that doesn't compromise on the overall experience to deliver more 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:41.840 frames per second resorted to a triple slot cooler in order to make this thing 01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:46.159 function is that where we're at now is this is this the end of the line are we 01:31:43.440 --> 01:31:50.320 at the physical limitations of the heat that we can remove and the power that we 01:31:48.320 --> 01:31:53.920 can deliver to these cards and is it just the end now 01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:58.000 i'm i'm i even have a different point but i do agree with you on that um 01:31:56.480 --> 01:32:02.400 although i wouldn't be surprised if it did work i just bet you that they're looking into 01:32:01.120 --> 01:32:07.440 triple slot coolers and stuff now because of results from 295x2 01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:10.880 i wouldn't be surprised there because i do suspect it probably did work with the 01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:15.360 dual slot cooler um but 01:32:13.360 --> 01:32:19.040 i'm i'm surprised that like i i never liked them even when cases were huge 01:32:17.679 --> 01:32:22.880 right it made more sense to have a billion graphics cards now a lot of 01:32:21.120 --> 01:32:26.880 people are going to much smaller cases and smaller motherboards and smaller 01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:28.560 situations so it even makes more sense now 01:32:27.679 --> 01:32:32.800 and it's still not catching on 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:36.560 right and one thing that i need i think gpus are going really slow actually 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:40.480 we've seen this like we've seen a little bit iteration for a long time and you're 01:32:38.719 --> 01:32:46.239 starting to see where like that card and even the 295x2 when 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:48.800 things are fully set up on really really high resolutions which are coming down 01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:55.120 in price fast so people are going to start running them at really high settings 01:32:52.159 --> 01:33:00.080 games at those resolutions are it's it's not that impressive 01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:05.360 like barely over 60 FPS so then isn't that an argument for 01:33:03.280 --> 01:33:09.360 more dual GPU solutions it is but it's also an argument for stronger single GPU 01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:13.520 solutions i know this is hard to build slow iteration it's hard to build videos 01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:15.760 sits on stuff well 01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:21.679 you can make the argument either way i don't think anyone outside of NVIDIA 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:27.840 really knows what's happened over the last little while but what we do know is 01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:29.679 that tsmc is not delivering 01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:33.440 smaller process nodes so there's only so much you can do by 01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:37.280 tweaking the design with something like maxwell to go okay it's more efficient 01:33:35.280 --> 01:33:40.800 per watt and it does perform better but look guys this is all we can really do 01:33:39.280 --> 01:33:45.199 if it's colder and more efficient per watt and performs better and all that kind of stuff then it should be easier 01:33:43.120 --> 01:33:49.920 to make these dual GPU so then you want them to deliver a larger GPU 01:33:48.480 --> 01:33:53.679 or that because even though it's more expensive or that right they're making a 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:58.080 lot of their but we should talk about GPU bomb costs if we're gonna talk about google glass bomb 01:33:57.040 --> 01:34:03.679 costs uh it's not about the bond i know i know i 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:07.199 know okay let's talk let's talk about google glass should we talk about the 01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:14.320 poll results yeah uh yeah let's do the poll results so guys the results are in 01:34:10.080 --> 01:34:15.360 will china's gaming centric like 01:34:14.320 --> 01:34:20.320 thing will it be a success most of you think 01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:25.120 no i actually disagree i disagree wholeheartedly i think that particularly 01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:29.840 because it's in asia and i think that because it's on the forefront it's going 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:34.320 to be the first one it is going to have the support of guys like mlg where 01:34:32.480 --> 01:34:40.080 they're going to be like yeah we want to have every event there from now on 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:44.639 and once you make something into the default destination 01:34:42.639 --> 01:34:49.120 then you kind of won at least for a while at least until competing 01:34:46.639 --> 01:34:52.080 facilities start to show up and there is something to be said even if you're 01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:56.960 watching on the screen i mean think about going to a concert unless you're 01:34:54.000 --> 01:35:00.880 in like the first few dozen rows it's not like you can see the pores on the 01:34:58.719 --> 01:35:04.239 singer's face and a lot of the time you're gonna end up watching the big 01:35:02.400 --> 01:35:08.239 screen anyway so even though a gaming tournament is 01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:11.920 very much like that you're not really looking at the players most of the time 01:35:10.080 --> 01:35:15.760 you're looking at the screen it's more about people attend live events for the 01:35:13.679 --> 01:35:19.440 atmosphere i personally don't like having lots of people around me they're 01:35:17.360 --> 01:35:24.159 loud and they smell bad but lots of people like the atmosphere of 01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:27.520 concerts and sporting events and that's what this will be unless you're still 01:35:25.679 --> 01:35:30.560 watching on a screen it's it's about being around the other 01:35:29.040 --> 01:35:35.679 people and cheering when the thing happens and the crowd going 01:35:33.679 --> 01:35:39.600 and i think something like this can be a big success and i i think the timing is 01:35:38.400 --> 01:35:44.800 right yeah three years ago i would have 01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:47.920 laughed at it yeah me too and like with with china getting behind league of 01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:50.800 legends so heavily i could totally see this because league 01:35:49.360 --> 01:35:54.560 of legends is gonna be a huge big deal there this arena and league of legends 01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:58.480 are gonna have to come together if that doesn't work then i don't think the 01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:02.960 arena is going to work 100 they they have to work together or else 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:06.719 it's just no big deal so google glass costs 80 bucks to build this was 01:36:04.800 --> 01:36:11.239 originally posted on the forum by shadow captain that's fine so the processor 01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:15.679 costs 13.96 with the wi-fi and blue shift 01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:19.239 bluetooth chips coming in at our bluetooth chip coming in at 10.79 and 01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:23.280 the camera 5.66 01:36:21.120 --> 01:36:26.639 if they increase the bom cost they could put in a way better camera they could do 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:32.080 all kinds of interesting stuff and still make a profit but something that people 01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:35.520 need to understand so anyone who is like upset about the bomb cost of a product 01:36:34.480 --> 01:36:39.600 like this it is not about the bomb cost it is 01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:43.520 about and for oh sorry bomb means bill of materials so the actual like list of 01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:47.840 things on a spreadsheet that go into it and the the 80 includes assembly 01:36:45.679 --> 01:36:52.560 apparently yeah but it's not about that it's about the extremely expensive 01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:56.639 engineers that you have to employ for a long period of time before you can 01:36:54.639 --> 01:37:00.000 actually release it that all needs salaries 01:36:58.719 --> 01:37:04.880 so there's there seems to be a fair bit of outrage that google's charging 1500 for 01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:09.840 because i mean it's something to remember guys is they don't want people to buy it not really they only want 01:37:08.400 --> 01:37:15.360 people to buy it who are serious business like developers and stuff and 01:37:12.320 --> 01:37:17.520 going to develop for it or or uh provide 01:37:15.360 --> 01:37:22.080 like massive media coverage for it or people who can afford to spend 1500 on 01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:25.920 something to try it to be one of the first ones that's who they they don't 01:37:24.080 --> 01:37:30.239 want everyone to have one because they know it's not ready yet it's like oculus 01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:35.440 developer kits yeah they don't want everyone to buy it they say outright 01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:39.520 they kind of did kind of but they wanted developers to buy it they don't want 01:37:37.040 --> 01:37:44.080 every joe to buy it and then like do a review of how it the pixels are big yeah 01:37:42.639 --> 01:37:47.600 you don't want people to have a bad experience with the product you'd rather 01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:50.480 just not have them have it at all it's fairly and that's an interesting uh 01:37:49.280 --> 01:37:54.080 point because it's fairly well documented that oculus looks like a 01:37:52.400 --> 01:37:58.400 screen door and the google glass experience is really not that good yeah 01:37:56.239 --> 01:38:01.360 and that's because they're both not what those companies want them to be yet 01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:06.800 that's right so you're going to pay you're going to pay more and then there's even a lot of 01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:09.280 speculation that cv1 consumer version one of oculus rift is going to be 01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:14.320 cheaper than some of the development kits have been or all of the development kits have been 01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:18.880 interesting if you think about it the mass manufacturing possibilities behind 01:38:16.719 --> 01:38:21.280 a consumer version are much higher than the development version if you're only 01:38:20.080 --> 01:38:25.360 making a very small amount of something like 01:38:23.360 --> 01:38:28.800 development kit one wasn't a huge amount so if you're only making that much it 01:38:26.480 --> 01:38:33.520 could cost more all right so unless you have something 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:36.800 else that you feel is incredibly important we do have a few more things 01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:41.600 on here but i think that like needs to be done i think that's pretty much it for the 01:38:39.040 --> 01:38:45.360 lanchow we thank you guys very much for tuning in the weather's beautiful so i'm 01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:48.320 not doing a garage sale today i will do one again at some point it's just 01:38:46.639 --> 01:38:52.480 honestly you guys fridays are very tiring at the end of 01:38:50.480 --> 01:38:56.480 very tiring weeks so he does a lot of stuff on friday and this morning was 01:38:54.400 --> 01:39:02.480 worse than usual i had to go to uh see an accountant about our like Linus media 01:38:59.280 --> 01:39:05.679 group tax filing and stuff 01:39:02.480 --> 01:39:09.679 yeah that doesn't sound fun at all 01:39:05.679 --> 01:39:11.920 so i had to i yeah today was awesome 01:39:09.679 --> 01:39:16.719 i noticed you you got back to the office later than you normally do 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:19.760 yeah so i assumed something i was late to ncix and then i was late getting back 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:24.880 here but uh thank you guys very much for tuning in we hope you enjoyed the wen 01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:29.760 show as much as we enjoy making it thanks again to our sponsors hotspot 01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:33.840 shield and ASUS we 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