welcome to the WAN Show guys you know what's funny because i actually received
a complaint from one of our sponsors earlier this
week um where well well it's not so much that
i received a complaint as they received a complaint it was a major sponsor of
ours so one of our one of our long-term
relationships that we've had for a long time that's how long-term relationships
work they last a long time i mean unless it's
you know ah there's no good place this can go so it's a long-term sponsor and
what happened was they actually received a complaint about the obscene content of
a friday stream that was sponsored by
said sponsor so i freaked out i'm like
oh man i'm not always the most politically correct guy in the world i
think we can all we can all agree on this uh slenderman definitely knows
that i'm not always the most appropriate boss you know when it comes to touching
and and words that i say but
i was like okay well it must have been something particularly horrible if
someone's complaining about it sounded really bad what sometimes i'm not an appropriate
boss when it comes to touching and words that i say well like you know
poopsicle okay
that's what i meant so basically i'm freaking out i'm running
around trying to download the archive twitch isn't working i can barely load a
page on the site and i just want to watch the archive and i go oh no hold on
youtube so i go on the youtube when i'm like oh this doesn't look that bad and then i go
after party maybe something happened on the after party and so i'm like trying
to get on twitch again i'm like i can't see this show i don't want to admit to
guilt before i figure out if i did something wrong so at the end of it all
get this i'm like still running around i get this
email thank goodness for the pebble because i knew about the email
immediately and it's like oh upon getting further clarification it
was actually one of the participants in the chat
of your show that said something obscene
and i was just kind of sitting there going i was like
really really the obscene content of my show is
someone in twitch chat i don't think the public internet has a
proper esrb rating i really don't think it does
come on guys so that that was where my upset ended
that was where my stress ended make bombs thank you for whoever's in
the twitch chat doing that speaking of twitch chat being inappropriate um so so
i was just they were like oh well you know do you think you could like get
moderators i'm like yeah we're on it okay we've got this we've got this under
control we are going to add so many moderators that you're not going to be
able we're going to moderate well we moderate what would happen if we made
everything can can moderators time out other moderators i don't think so
okay so i was going to say if we made every single person a moderator i yeah
that creates more problems than it is i know i know
so we've got a great show for you today guys we've got a number of topics number
one is the titan z or titan zed if you
prefer from NVIDIA has allegedly been postponed and by allegedly i mean it was
supposed to launch three days ago and it's not here so
yeah the word on the street is actually well
you'll have to wait for the word on the street why don't you just watch the show for a change you know how many people
tune in for the intro and then leave i've been watching the twitch numbers
really they're just like what did what do Linus and luke think no i'm totally
messy i'm gonna say i'm pretty sure it goes up nobody does that
like you push it goes up like for a while people watch the show to stare at
your hunky good looks not because they want to watch the intro and then leave
that's cute um also google is
rumored to be launching the Android silver program and we've got a few
details of what that would be but it sounds like some kind of a mishmash of
the nexus program and google play edition phones and the love child that
exists from that sort of pairing and actually people were freaking out
initially when rumors started to swirl about nexus phones going away but in my
mind this could be a very good thing more on that later we have china
building an esports station i love saying more on that later
because it's like it implies that whatever we say about it will be stupid
more on that later anyway sorry
oh man and nissan is developing a paint that
will resist both water and oil more on that later
that's a smart idea but i'm just that's not stupid you're
done you're not even doing it right i'm gonna play the intro
so
uh
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you're awful all right so let's move on to our first topic of the day
nissan develops water repellent technology for their cars now that's a
bit of a that's a bit of an oversimplification it's not actually
nissan that developed this uh hydrophobic and oleophobic coating
forward for clarification hydrophobic is water water repellent and uh oil phobic
is oil repellent yes so but
but they have developed the idea of putting such a coating on a car which to
me like isn't that big of a deal but you know
either way this video is freaking cool
so we're gonna go ahead and watch it together and there's no sound so i will be the
narrator nissan is this the world's first self-cleaning car
driven by batman look at us painting it this is how paint
works sometimes the paint has a hose that contains paint
and you decide to turn the light off sometimes cars go on the road
this is a windshield this is rain on the ground
it's like backwards rain it starts on the ground it goes up your
car and it contains sometimes mud this
backwards rain evaporation repels water and spraying
spray spray i was thinking of my shoulder because it hurts
everyday dirt not just some day's dirt this is really impressive though okay so
check this out check this out this final shot if the video is to be believed
has not been doctored so you can actually find like a couple little
things on it like there's a little thing here see that
um and then down here this piece of plastic has actually clearly gone through the
same treatment as the other piece of plastic one thing to note is that this
is a left side vehicle so it means whenever they are like driving off the
side of the road a little bit it'll be on this side so they did abuse the more
you can kind of tell in the plastic yeah so you can tell in the plastic that they
they abused this side more to make their
point i think but that doesn't change the fact that the hydrophobic oleophobic
coating everywhere where it isn't applied um or everywhere where it's been
applied like on the paint here on the windshield is really really impressive i
mean look at that we're just gonna here let's reframe on that for a second so
you can see the way that the dirt and water just
come right off of it now it's not the first time we've seen this when i saw
nissan's video i went looking around for for other ones and i saw some really
cool demos like taking a concrete cinder block and coating one
side of it and just like trying to make it wet taking a glove yeah yeah and just
like taking the two gloves and then putting them down on like paper towel
and there's like like one drop there's really cool stuff where if you get a
really nice camera and you like coat someone's finger in it and then put it
in the water you can see like the layer around your finger where the water is
not touching huh it's really interesting i'll try and
find a video for you later um but some of my favorite ones is literally when
someone just coats a shirt in it wears the shirt and then the other dude like sprays mustard or ketchup on them right
and then just instead of going bl it hits them and then just falls off
it's really it it like hurts the brain
for the first few seconds so this was posted on the forum by probe nja so huge
shout out to you for doing that and i think that's pretty much all there
is to say about it nissan has said already that they have no plans to offer
the paint as standard equipment but we'll consider making it an option you
know what it to me is kind of funny what do you mean consider making it an
option they have to be they have to talk like
that i know because like what if something happens
what if some patent comes out and then they're like oh there's no way this is
gonna work because they didn't like you said at the beginning they didn't invent this this has existed that's why there's
videos right like what we were just talking about people doing it um i can't
remember the name but there's a brand that sells it just in spray cans and you
can spray it on pretty much everything so
yeah if you want to do this to whatever you do have to kind of worry like you
don't want to eat this stuff i'm not even gonna bother read the label
but something that's gonna repel liquids should probably not be ingested right
well i mean the whole thing with scotchgard like you know why scotchguard
sucks now right because they had to nerf it right yeah they had to completely
change the formula the original scotchgard like my mum was under the
impression that scotchgard was amazing so i went and like sprayed all of my ski
equipment with it and like the first day i was like yeah i'm soaked this stuff is
crap mom what on earth are you talking about she's like no no it's great it's
great it's great Linus just put on all your stuff like
okay disconnected
um not working but then i actually looked into it and the reason they had
to change the formula was because in the town where they manufactured it all the
birth defect rate was like right right yeah so it was like a huge
problem so yeah sure there could be some kind of environmental concern some kind
of health concern that comes along with this type of a coating but at the end of
the day if they are figuring out how to apply it to cars okay i guess the thing
that i hate seeing is artificial segmentation like on our premium model
we'll offer this option to have this oleophobic coating it's like you know
what why don't you just paint the other car with it please just cover cover any
car with it yeah because why not if you're buying it in mass it's probably
not going to cost that much in the end and you wonder why consumers are sick of
your crap when you artificially segment your
products that way so i hope that nissan and anyone for that matter develops this
the amount of water that gets wasted washing cars the amount of soap and
cleaning chemicals that go down storm drains because not everyone is using
environmentally friendly soaps when they clean their cars at least here in north
america is pretty astounding i actually noticed the the culture seems a little
bit in the places in europe that i've gone the culture about car washing seems
very different so for example um i spent my honeymoon
on the greek islands and i don't think i saw a single car that had probably been
washed in the last two months like it just wasn't a thing whereas
around here it's fairly rare to find a dirty car yeah and uh and that was just
it was just a bit of an enlightening moment for me and i was just but then on
on the polar opposite of that in france every single washroom you go into is
going to be super pristine and here every single public washroom you go into
is absolutely disgusting monstrosity
another interesting thing is that i previous models of iphones i'm not sure
if the current ones do but they have uh oleophobic coating on the screen the
blackberry z10 could have probably used that yeah that screen was not very good
i remember the problem you had with it with that said you do have particularly
gross hands yes that is true but that phone was
particularly bad at dealing with it like i i like i i even like fist bumping him
no i'm sometimes i'm just like yeah
it's pretty bad all right i'm not judging though i am
you're gross you beat me to the punch on that one
so this is right up your alley this next story here
the famous fabled
dumping ground for e.t the video game
has been found so despite this being reportedly
one of the worst games that anyone who's ever played it has ever played um people
want to find it so badly because it's been kind of hidden away and it's really
really really really hard to get your hands on so what happened was they dumped it in some
landfill in new mexico and then never looked back and never yeah like they
printed way too many copies of it way too many copies it was a total piece
of garbage terrible so they just dumped it dumped it forgot about it it's
in a landfill don't worry about it ever since then the internet has kind of gone
insane it's had its ups and downs with this story but it's kind of gone insane
the video game nerd also known as the cinemassacre group has been working on a
video on it since i think 2007 there's a documentary going on right now and the
people working on the documentary actually dug up the site and actually
have found i've seen pictures of two or three of them now they look pretty
smashed so i don't think any of them are actually going to work but we'll see who
knows the last i heard none of the ones they had unearthed worked yet yeah but
then that being said they might be able to remount chips right and make it work
that way like maybe that cartridge doesn't work but that feels like cheating to me
it kind of is but if you do want to get the game back um it might work in some
form if you want original cartridge though i don't think they've unearthed one yet the the movie that uh cinemaska
is making with angry video game nerd is gonna be like a science fiction
adventure based movie so it's not really based around
that much so kind of like e.t will there be an alien
i'm sure there's going to be an alien i've seen parts of it um shoot me but it
really doesn't look that good so
i don't know we'll see someone will someone will attack me for that um but
yeah that's honestly about it it's interesting i'm excited to see what
comes with it i'm excited for the first one to hit ebay
right that's that's what i'm and i'm excited to figure out what atari decides
to do about this because they probably still technically own that land i don't think they've
commented on any of this yet yeah so atari is just kind of
but once someone starts making money off of this exactly i think the story
changes a little bit i mean if you're atari you must be pretty desperate at
this point yeah because like the angry video game nerd his is science fiction
adventure based thing so i'm not too worried about that he's making a story
and that's just based on the buried games it's not like yeah he's not planning to sell the
cartridges or anything like that i imagine
video game collectors would pay oh yeah
and like especially to get one from the dig yeah so like i think it uh at the
end of the day they're gonna i mean they're gonna excavate these and i suspect there's enough of them that
something's gotta work unless they specifically smashed them before they
put them down right right but i mean so i think there will be there
will be tears right there will be the ones that are in basically like pristine condition and work there'll be ones that
look good but don't work and there will be broken ones there's that game rating system have you heard
of it before no you can you can ship in your unboxed game i can't remember the
name of it right now but i'm sure someone in the chat will bring it up you can ship in your
your like new inbox game and they'll rate
how good condition it's in it's like any
dents on the corners any rips anything like that they'll put it in a shell
casing and they'll stamp an official rating on it
so like if you get like a 95 rated nes game you can sell it for incredible
amounts of money and it costs like 100 bucks just to get the service done
so like if you get a high rating et that's from the dig
it's gonna be worth tons and then atari might be like we
technically own those so nope our money
or they could just say nope they all go to us i'm really interested to see what
atari does or if they just do nothing i guess we'll have to see they might just
do nothing i wouldn't be super surprised if they did nothing to be completely
honest oh well we'll see i guess Android silver
yeah let's move on to Android silver so let's do a twitter blitz soon i'm sorry
should we do twitter soon sure about what i don't know we just haven't i don't think we did a twitter blitz the
last two weeks okay why don't we just do a random one guys hit us at linustech on
twitter let us know if you have anything
fascinating to ask us or comment on anything that we've talked about so far
we're going to do a twitter blitz in a little bit here all right so our next topic is Android silver it was posted
originally on the Linus tech tips forum by red round two and then the source
article was on Android authority so this
is a report going around right now that the nexus
program so you know the nexus 5 the nexus 7 you know i really did wonder
what they were going to do when they ran out of screen sizes to make it bigger
that would also correspond to increasingly
model numbers that didn't seem like the greatest plan
from the get-go it's just discontinued
it's gone don't worry about it we're not using the word one at least we came up
with something else imagine they did that
that would be three different Android phones that would be called one silver
one
if they at least had the next iteration be a silver two
so for two and like from there on i'd probably be
okay with it when cell phones go down enough in price
can we have the silver dollar
i don't think that'll happen how about the uh how about the silver
and sterling conflict
you don't follow sports right not much oh do you know what's going on
right now with the the the coach that just got fired no no the
clippers owner oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i felt like i follow it enough yeah
i just that's that's kind of the thing right now i i don't know i've been i
actually had a really interesting conversation with uh with uh iago and
the ncix tech tips crew when we were having lunch today
and uh they brought up some interesting points what he says in the privacy of
his own home no matter how foul and disgusting it is is not illegal
um so to
my conversation probably shouldn't have been leaked my thing is he's done way
worse stuff in the past and and honestly
like again because what he's done right now actually isn't illegal and and he's
probably on the right side of of any law that could possibly exist
to protect people who say things to people in public and then just have that
turn into like a gigantic spiel he's probably on the right side of whatever
that is but if you actually look at any of the media articles about this whole
controversy right now people aren't even really going after him about
the recording they're going after him for being an
allegedly supremely foul human being
and a lot of them well as far as i know he is i'm not entirely sure but just
digging up a ton of the history and kind of going you know what this is just the
cherry on top that we needed to catalyze
what's going on right now because you're
like the recording like again i don't like
the fact that someone published a private recording i don't like that but
then from what i've read he does seem like an extremely following movie and
and i don't mean it's okay i don't like someone
saying to someone i don't want you bringing a person of that ethnic
persuasion no that is that is horrendous yes
but um i also don't want that's
even though it's wrong it's not illegal what happened
you're you're it's not illegal to tell someone in private that like if i okay
if i give you tickets to a play and i'm like look i don't want you bringing um
say it correctly so this doesn't get taken out of context yeah i don't even i don't want you bringing a white person
there that's probably the safest thing i can say don't bring any white people i'm
allowed to say that it's not illegal because
okay as your employer i probably can't say that but let's say it wasn't oh yeah
you know i i disconnected that yeah yeah i just i still don't know
and you could make the argument based on how old he is and the kind of
relationship they probably had he might have been her employer so maybe
it was wrong but that's a whole other ball of wax
anyway i i don't remember where i was going with this anyway that's happening
um the vga rating vga grader.com okay i'm
jumping back to this because i don't want to talk about racist old guys
anymore um but yeah see they put it in this jewel point at your screen i know
they can't see it but i'm trying to show you really quickly they put it in a jewel case and they put it they stamp a
rating on it it costs like a hundred bucks so it's basically
gia except for games vga rating vgg
vgg rating dot reader vgg raider substituting yeah okay raider
oh bing is so useless okay here oh oh good
they're screen sharing with me already so vggrating.com brings up g detox plus
herbal capsule um okay
so vgg raider all right google no i'm
going to try searching for that i'm going to see if google manages to bring
up what i'm actually looking for
it's like you know what i give i give
bing a chance time and time again i give bing a chance
did you use uh Windows updates to download the bing desktop and bing
toolbar no that's so frustrating
no i didn't i'm like i'm actually looking for Windows upgrades i keep
giving bing a chance and like okay
i don't use google because i'm married to google and love google my love for
google skin deep it works it's a it's a working relationship i
tried to go to duckduckgo and then i was like this doesn't really work me and google we do our best here
and we we fight through the problems but you stay together but we stay together
man yeah bing because it's the default on
internet explorer and i reinstall operating systems so often
i often am lazy about installing my alternate browsers and i'll use ie and
the default will be bing for a while and the only time i actually turn around
and like get off my lazy butt and install my alternate browsers that i'll
use google as a default is when bing just can't find anyone that
does something like that when it does something like this look at those bing
results okay office of quality of performance ssa.gov
some patent for flame laminate polyether urethane
i mean they're not even close genetics
diamondbring.com and like what is this does that say fellatio book
oh teleco book sorry how did you possibly i'm not they have books about
that anyway do you have an idiot's guide v
g grader.com so google managed to find it
bing did not and that is incredibly disappointing anyway why don't we
actually get onto our next topic here so from Android authority the nexus program
retiring next year Android silver allegedly to take its place so what
Android silver is going to be is a bit of a of a mishmash of the nexus program
so nexus the idea was they support the phone with software for two years
correct i believe i don't think there was a cap
on it i believe there was there was well there was a guarantee yeah i think
there's a minimum yeah let us know in the chat if you guys can uh if you guys
can remember how long nexus devices get so anyway so a nexus device has to be
this it has to be at an aggressive price it has to be from a well-established
manufacturer and uh it has to be stock
vanilla Android then on the other side we've got google
play edition devices so we saw this with the htc one the galaxy s4 and we've seen
it again with the htc one m8 in the galaxy s5 but what's interesting to me
about silver is that i really think it takes the best of both worlds because
right now you've got those play edition devices which for the htc one m8 for
example the one that i think people should be buying if they're buying a play edition device the htc one m8 it's
extremely expensive if silver could take the concept of play
edition that is to say and what's cool about the play edition phones that are
coming out now is how they come with
basically stock Android but all of those cool
vendor created customizations that can be added within a special subset of the
play store so i love that approach i think that's
great but if that could meet nexus halfway and be implemented instead of
only on flagship devices that you have to pay full pop out of pocket for
i forget where that sentence started if that could be instead of on just
flagship devices that you have to pay full pop for if we could see that on
mid-range devices or and this is the other big bomb
carrier subsidized devices i think that's an incredibly positive thing
because the cold hard truth and phone enthusiasts
get over yourself not everyone
buys a phone outright
some people lock into a contract because quite
frankly who cares you're going to pay
your carrier anyway yeah
it's not like you get a huge discount with a lot of carriers even if you say
no to the phone they make you lock into a contract anyways
at least here in canada yeah i don't know elsewhere but so so
especially the tier one carriers a lot of the like tier two carriers you can
just do like basically pay as you go yeah but but you're good i mean you're
gonna you're gonna pay for a phone contract anyway
so who cares not everyone upgrades their phone every year not everyone roots
their device so for some people
being able to get a high-end device for 199 on contract with a phone plan that
they're gonna buy anyway is great so if we can have Android silver fill
that gap by giving us more mid-range devices that deliver a basically stock
google experience um where this is this is not quite like the google play
edition one so the idea is that a silver device will come with the customizations
off it but you can remove basically all of them yeah as opposed to coming
without them but you can add them i'm totally okay with that what a fantastic
middle ground yeah silver sounds amazing and one thing i really like is that um
just i think you kind of already said this but the the subsidizing google is
going to subsidize it and help make it cheap because i'm in a weird position
right now well the rumor is google may subsidize the phones oh okay i thought
it was a natural thing so rumor i think this is all rumors so far right okay
yeah yeah um i'm in a weird spot because i'm done my contract but just sitting
still paying the contract your carrier is a bunch of terrible people as well
i'm not going to name anyone really bad so i'm looking to switch but then
there's possibly new plans coming out so i don't want to switch right now so i can't get a subsidized phone in that way
i don't have a phone right now i don't want to buy one because if i
bought one then i'm gonna probably buy nexus five but then why wouldn't i wait
for one plus one which is coming out soon which might be
good which might be good but who knows they're an unproven manufacturer at this
point so i'm in a really weird spot
so i'm happy to see things speaking of really weird spots you just said you
don't have a phone but i think you do
show us your phone oh okay
so i don't even want to show it so this is Linus's old iphone 4. so
so i don't even have working yet luke was like uh oh hey um yo dawg could i
borrow the uh the moto x and i was like ah you know i might switch to the moto x
at some point plus it's got a nano sim and you have a micro set that's easy to
fix but and you know what guys okay twitch chat
back me up on this because what i've heard is that cutting down from micro to
nano there's actually a lot more room for error than there is cutting down
from full size sim to micro for example because the the plastic is so close to
the contact so i didn't recommend that he do that especially because his
terrible carrier charges him ten dollars for a new sim
whereas mine i walked into the store i was like yo i got a new phone they're like yo you need a new sim
let me set that up for you his carrier is the one that i'm trying to move to i'm just waiting for new plans and they
didn't even set up your new sim for you no you had to like call right so yeah
because on the website when i try to set it up for myself um it was a locked off portals like you
do not have permission to do this i was like why is the button even there if
it's if i can't do it whereas my carrier it's like here are the two phones and
they like they like take the sim out for me put it
in the other phone they make all the calls then like he hands it back to me
he's like oh hold on hold on uh what's your number and he does like a test call
from his own cell phone to make sure it's worked i'm like yo man you're
awesome yeah you're cool as much as i hate giving you all of my money at least
you're trying to make me not feel terrible if they make the experience not
horrible i'd be happier paying the same amount that i'm gonna pay someone else
to them because i'm gonna i'm paying my carrier
whoever they are i hate your kids the same amount that you would be everything
about your carrier my 500 megabyte data every month fall in oh people are
asking i'm on bell so uh bell bell canada from my experience has been one
of the two lesser of all of the evils and i used to be on rogers and they
weren't bad either so i think that leaves one
yeah pretty much yeah so people can probably figure it out now so for the
first time ever luke is going to be using an iphone i
have no idea what i'm doing until he de-cheapifies enough to buy a phone and
that is going to be an interesting experience and you know what it's funny
because the timing is going to be really good because i recently switched back to
iOS i've been using an iphone 5s for the
last wow but you're happy about a week and a half i don't even like i can't do
anything i know but it's a learning experience okay so no hold on hold on
this is important for you i switched back to the iphone 5s not because i'm
unhappy with the one m8 i've seen a couple people notice that i pulled out a
5s in the middle of my videos i love the 1m8 fantastic phone i switched back to
the 5s because i think the upcoming iphone 6 is going to be absolutely
groundbreaking why does pressing the little button not
turn the screen on oh it did uh it's glitchy it's broken oh yeah you gotta
press it pretty hard okay yeah sorry i should have told you that um so i think
the upcoming iphone 6 with its larger screen size is going to be
groundbreaking not not because a larger screen is innovative but because apple's
going to have to make some serious changes to iOS in order to make a larger
screen size work just little things like for example
within apps the standard placement for
back is at the very top left corner of the screen which i think for people who
have normal sized hands isn't a problem right now but when you go and throw that
design onto a much larger phone they're going to start having the same problem
people like me with little hands have where in order to go back within an app
you're going to have to shift your your grip on your phone and people are going
to drop a lot of iphones unless they change that design so so i wanted to
refresh myself on iOS again
before i jump into the iphone 6 and it's
also it's also been exactly a year when i did my htc one m8 review was
basically one year from when i switched to Android so i wanted to go back for a
refresher and you know see how iOS has evolved in
the last little while so it was it was for a reason that i was doing that and so this i think is important for you to
actually get some perspective on the other side because i'm going to be doing
a review of the 5s i know i'm super late i don't care but the point is not going
to be the 5s the point is going to be i switched back to iOS what was it like
and the conclusion just to spoil it for you guys is you know what it's not that
bad there's stuff i miss about Android and there's stuff i'm gonna miss about iOS
when i switch back to Android siri is so much better than google now that it's
not even funny and make whatever arguments you want you're wrong siri is
better than google now right now that will change in the future in all
likelihood some of your claims were wrong i have a some of them were right i
have and the actual experience of using it is better i do
like the fingerprint thing too the fingerprint unlock
is really well implemented is it a bulletproof piece of security hardware
no no no it's nice and fast though but it's
very convenient um so so there's things i'm gonna miss about iOS but um at the
end of the day the conclusion that i came to is you know what it's trade-offs
one way or the other and i think if someone just put a gun to your head as
an Android lover or as an iOS lover and said use the other one for a year for
the first couple weeks or months you'd be like
and then you'd be fine it would be fine you wouldn't die that's
the point you wouldn't die
that took a lot longer
now people might watch the video though because they're gonna be able to get that in a more formalized form and for
even longer yeah and the conclusion
will be the same yeah but i do make some more specific points
i actually have a pretty long bullet list it's going to be it's going to be i
think a pretty interesting video someone suggested that i buy a 3310 can you even
buy those still is that possible i don't think so it
wouldn't maybe used and how could you get one on a carrier the battery would
be super poopy yeah i don't think you would need the carrier subsidy
watch them pay you to take it like here's here's 50 cash if you take this
phone on a plan that's fine same same plan cost though because it's my carrier
so they wouldn't you know what hold on
that was amazing time my phone just started it's tell us
what hold on i think that's who it is
that's them right yeah
what answer and answer no no that's
right come on come on no you have to that'll be amazing no i
don't want to talk to telus it's probably their customer set okay
it's probably the customer set up hello
hello
oh no it's ups it's ups uh okay oh i think telus is 310 not 210. that's a
really close anyway okay okay okay
i think you just stumbled on
actually a brilliant idea which really really low-end phones with
cashback yes so a recycling program for
phones imagine okay like there's so many
different facets of this so the carrier can probably get some kind of
governmental credit probably for implementing a regimen like this okay
um it all of a sudden opens up more premium
carriers to people who can't afford a phone at all or are even a little bit
tight on cash if you go okay look we had someone trade in this phone
or whatever and we will not only hand
you this phone to use but we're gonna give you two months credit if you lock
in for like six months tell you what just give us a try we're
going to be making our money back because we're going to lock you in for a
very short period of time subsidize at some point or something we're going to make this super accessible for everyone
we're going to have a positive environmental impact and what the way
that phone hardware is not changing in the same way that it used to the one m8
is faster than the one m7 but not the way the one m7 was faster than the
previous flagship like it's slowing down yeah how brilliant is that
you actually subsidize people to take
used phones and use them that does kind of make sense because i know a lot of
people that get rid of phones that are still working and like trade-in level
get rid of like not not even trying to sell it or anything like that because
like uh what am i trying to think of right now samsung s3s at t apparently gives you
store credit on your recycled phone i don't even uh what what about not store
credit what about the other way around someone on that phone yeah
because that's not solving the store credit isn't solving the recycling problem which is i think the main reason
why Linus is excited is the the recycling problem you're
giving people these phones that would just end up landfilled or
yeah because i don't know how much of a phone you can actually properly recycle
yeah so i want them to just like hand you a phone and cash
that's how i want it to work and you can like go buy a burger with your cash if
you really want to if you're willing to lock into a very short term i think that
would be really neat yeah i don't expect it to be a ton of money or me i liked
what you said about the what we'll pay your first two months kind of idea yeah
or something like that yeah like that's actually pretty cool you can get a phone
you don't have to pay for it for a while the phone is free imagine if carriers
were confident enough in their service that they were willing to offer a try
before you buy
maybe this is just a fantastic i would i would only be scared of people running
away with the phones but then if you're doing like low-end used phones
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yeah yeah uh one thing that i want to bring up really quickly i don't have this as a
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interested in net neutrality and all that kind of stuff maybe do some research on fcc chairman tom wheeler
someone just said it in the chat yeah chat is so useful except when it's just
a bunch of nonsense yeah and like gets me angry calls from sponsors about how
like our content is obscene yeah all right so
let's go ahead and do that twitter blitz we promised you guys professor nick butler can you comment on
a hypothetical Corsair RGB keyboard release date oh man
i'm sorry i can't what i will tell you
is that i okay they didn't show off RGB at pax
no but i believe they are planning to show
it at computex that is all that i know i know that
barrington one of the watchers of the wine show and the after party has
apparently won one of them they had that contest thing going on really so he's
getting it whenever it comes out i guess so barrington will probably be a good
person to ask because when he or she him
him when he gets his tracking number well
we'll know yeah we'll know that either Corsair is shipping him a brick
watch oh my god that would be the best troll ever if they shipped everyone like membrane
keyboards and they're like you can use these until the new one shows up is just
a trick would that be like a good viral
thing okay like remember when microsoft did the whole like uh xbox one in the
shark tank thing yeah if it turned out that that xbox was
actually full of like lizard on trails or something like is that funny or is
that just them like like does that get
i think the sharks would eat it right
okay let's just move on in portugal carrier locked and no contract a bunch
of phone pricing in dollars that probably i can't relate to oh that looks
like corrected is that us lg g2 for 622 isn't that cheap
no that galaxy s5 for 900 bucks actually
i'm gonna do my thoughts on the galaxy s5 as well as the gear fit later on in
the show so how much did g2s cost then uh i don't know less than that i think
any chance biosubject for example that devil's canyon k
cpus will work on d87 motherboards and if not why um i doubt it um often aside
from updating the chipset even when there's no socket change Intel will
update the electrical specifications of the socket to be capable of things like
tighter voltage regulation for example so a lot of the time you'll get newer
motherboards so for example very late lga 775 motherboards could
work with almost every previous lga 775
CPU but then the later lga 775 cpus were
like barely backwards compatible if at all and that that was probably the best
example of a very long-lasting socket whose compatibility actually
forward and backward wasn't very strong so it's 650 bucks
are you gonna make a video about the april updates to shield uh there is some
really cool stuff i had not planned on a dedicated video we have talked about
them on WAN Show before apparently something about a recipe from
canada thank you barnacles silver makes me wonder what the gold
tier would be if they add one you know what i don't think there's any rumored
gold tier i think the the the Android program is just called silver
but who knows i guess they're leaving themselves flexibility up and down
yeah seriously platinum deer will you guys ever come to
dreamhack we're not really planning on it right
now but that's not to say that anything's impossible yeah watching lan show on a toilet
okay touch screens are the work of the devil
we've we've gotten off topic a little bit something about not liking maple
syrup barnacles get off my twitter feed
i don't even know if that guy's watching in sweden there's a 14-day free trial
for phones and contracts can only be used once per person but it's great why
is sweden so progressive about everything because they're awesome
and they're from scandinavian scandinavia is awesome um i'm in a
dilemma you can't cameras i think the 12 hertz thing is a troll from the new egg
guys ah because our equipment is so much better
than theirs and the skill the operators using them
and the people in front of them i know everything about our operations is just
vastly superior you know what's funny you know what's funny is they were
closing in on the ncix tech tips channel in terms of subscribers like they were
they got really close and then all of a sudden a completely untrained group of
people came into the nci ex tech tips
of whom there are about a third as many as the newegg tv team and then with me
coming in like five hours a week they took off again
and now they're growing way faster than new egg tv again so you know if we oh
that's the new paul eat it kyle eat it
joanne you're not there anymore but you can eat it too steve was steve can eat
it what i mean steve can eat something pleasant
like cake yeah there we go but he can still eat it actually paul's really nice
too but still still eat it eat it uh most companies second second-hand
phones to emerging countries and send yeah yeah that's that's i actually had
no idea that's pretty cool yeah i'm aware of that but it's usually like
super old crappy stuff like what i would like to see is a program more like hey
here's the last gen one that's like i'm saying like threes yeah stuff like that or whatever
it seems i've been banned from talking about 12 hertz master race yeah that sounds about right
um sasktel will give you 250 for anything including their tv internet and
phone but that's got to be like if you sign up for a new one that's not helping
the recycling thing again this transitions well into one of our topics
we're actually going to be talking about google class as bond cost being 80 so
why don't we why don't we move on to our next topic for now
what do we have well next is the heartbleed criminal
data thing and then something something something i'm so
excited about harrison ford and mark hamill and carrie fisher
and like ah everyone's gonna be in the new movie i just hope they don't screwed
up you know
with all the stuff see this is why it scares me with everything that i've seen
so far it looks awesome with everything
that i had seen at a certain point in time with elder
scrolls online it looks awesome and now i won't touch it or even be within a
vicinity of it because it's disgusting in my personal opinion if you like it
i'm sorry but i don't like it okay well okay just let's all just back
up first there's a high possibility of things screwing up kingdom of the
crystal skull poopy you know i think it could have been good
but george lucas was involved
and therefore yeah um now
the whole throwing out the expanded universe thing i i have mixed feelings
on because there was a lot of stuff from the expanded universe that was quite
frankly a hundred times better than anything
in that was canon really good a lot of it was fantastic i i do see that even
though they've thrown it out they it's not like they haven't left in the
possibility to adopt parts of it
which i think is great but to me it's a little bit frustrating
that they that they basically went okay no the whole thing is scrapped and they
kind of just they all that's all they've told us when there is so much lore that is so
plausible and so good and really doesn't need to be reimagined
that they could have just left alone but right now i think what is it clone
wars tv show which i i saw a little bit of once and
holy cow was it ever terrible i never watched it clone wars animated
series prequels and then the three original movies means that of the body
of work that is now considered canon most of it isn't very good
yeah that's why i'm scared which is a real shame but like they do they are
lining up the right things like you said they have the actors back and so as far
as i've heard so far um ford is like the
main focus is he not i don't know han solo i'm not sure as
far as i've heard he's the main focus of the movie which actually could be kind
of good i don't i don't know i mean okay i uh
maybe and maybe this is me being kind of crazy but i would actually like for
episode seven to be the last time we see
mark hamill carrie fisher harrison yeah but it could be a really good transition
like they could introduce new characters with it or do something i mean
one possibility and i'd love it if this is what they're doing i don't i don't
know what they're doing i mean what i would love to see because they are they
have a system like they have a team of people that are dedicated to curating
content and making it deciding what's canon and what's not what i would love
to see them do is actually skip a bunch
again because if you look at the original at the original first movie you have to do
yeah but but like skip skip a lot oh oh
yeah so actually create an intermediary story that could easily be filled in by
having the original people do voice acting for example for digital
representations of themselves so through video games or or through animated
series series because even if their voice is gonna sound a little bit older it'll be
easier to portray that on a younger character and that would be believable and you can do a whole lot with
editing with editing and so so i mean that's what i would like to see them do
because you look at even the original three movies there's a there's a pretty significant chunk of time
between even those movies it's like the rebellion goes from existing on like
yavin 4 like that's the entire rebel
alliance to like all of a sudden now they've got a fleet and then like all of
a sudden well now they have like a badass fleet and like salmon piloting
their ships and they can win a major battle yeah so
there's a lot of room here for a lot of the expanded universe stuff to still
work if they skip forward enough
if you see what i mean yeah no i actually definitely agree with that i like that idea they've already done it
once so like i don't think anyone's gonna protest too much
so that's what i want but i i don't know i don't know i just i
i don't want to get my hopes up too much because exactly i i used to be
a pretty hardcore star wars buff like knew everything i think compared to the
vast majority of people you still would be so
i just i really want it to be good i loved what abrams did with star trek yep
really liked it for sure but i was never a huge star trek guy i was never a
trekkie i think we were both on the star wars bandwagon more than this so the
potential here for me to be disappointed is it's like phantom menace all over
again potentially i really don't think abrams could make a movie that i don't think so
which is like that helps a lot and the actors coming in helps a lot and
everything that i've gotten so far helps a lot i'm just still trying to disengage
as much as i can i mean okay okay the one part of me is like who's in florida
but then one part of me too is like the fact that they brought in all of them
were either gonna end up with this weird like fan service thing where they bring
them in just to give them like a little bit of screen time or we're gonna end up
with this thing where they give them way too much screen time and it just doesn't make any sense because they're all
decrepit now i wouldn't mind just like closures on certain parts like like fan
service but like closure that makes sense or
flashback style stuff what if like movie number one opening scene
they kill luke skywalker how do you feel about that what if mark
hamill comes back in for just long enough to say there is another sky walk
up and dies like if they do it in a way
that makes sense i would be okay with it because i mean i think there's a lot of
potential for us to see an obi-wan kenobi type role for him yeah where
maybe okay maybe they don't kill them in the opening scene but i think there's a lot of potential for i definitely i
don't mind uh especially when it's been this long
like because okay i have to draw this in sorry everyone but firefly people have
talked about
that was awkward yeah people have talked about um firefly sequels and what could
possibly happen if they brought into season two and all kinds of stuff in the past so i've seen some of this
theorizing and you kind of need to either kill people
yeah or move them off to the side in some way yeah or get rid of them or just
put them in weird auxiliary auxiliary roles or something like that maybe keep
one or two but you can't necessarily keep the whole group because people will have grown up and changed and their
acting styles can change how how their mannerisms work can change and it won't
feel the same so but if they moved him into like you had just said um
a obi-wan kenobi type role i actually think that could work really well
someone just said they can't kill luke because he exists in a lot of the expanded universe stuff and not all of
it was scrapped except if they skipped forward far enough to his death then
there's plenty of time to fill in the intermediary stuff which is what he was saying before which is exactly what i
was talking about yeah um anyway so moving on to our next actual topic
because i don't know how we ended up talking about that i actually was going
to ask you how we got there i i don't remember no clue dylan's delons will
know shout out to delons we never do that he
actually does the timetable that goes in the archive on youtube shout out to
ghost because the doc yeah because helping us work on the doc we actually
have some pretty cool community helpers helping us with the show it helps with the land show a lot lately pretty
fantastic people overall all right so let's talk about this article on bbc
heartbleed used to uncover data from cyber criminals
are you a crime middle are you a criminal
i'm not a criminal you don't get the reference it's okay i
only hate you a little bit for not getting it is that all right spaceballs go ahead
i'm not sure um so heartbleed has apparently been used to track down black
hat hackers black hat hackers are like the ones that are maliciously trying to
hurt people like steal credit card data and all that kind of stuff gray hat is
when they kind of float on both sides and white hat is when people are trying
to hack but for the greater good um so
they've been using this to access closed forums such as dark ode and damage lab
and according to wired smart devices such as home routers cctv cameras baby
monitors and home management gadgets were now known to be vulnerable
i always feel such awkwardly on the fence with this kind of stuff because
it's like i don't want you guys to use this to track people
but then you stopped bad people potentially but that's the whole argument
that's how the nsa starts monitoring us yeah
bad people i wouldn't be surprised is why this article even came out in the
first place because they're like no we're not terrible so just
remember that when listening to this article or if you read it later or
anything like well no this was anti-malware researchers after hartley
was exposed i think yes yeah so i don't know so they were
using it to track people
i don't know i could make terrible analogies i'm not going to bother of any things that exist that you could use in
bad ways and that doesn't mean that government entities should be able to go
around the law to be able to use them and all kind of stuff
and also cyber law is really confusing and weird anyways and a lot of it
doesn't even exist can you break the law to stop lawbreakers
it's i mean it's you can turn this into a whole long
conversation about capital punishment yeah can you murder someone to stop
murdering this is a really big topic right now isn't it yeah it's a huge deal because
of the lethal injection like yeah and then they screw what's
going on right now so the supplier of what they were using
for lethal injections and this is all paraphrasing my wife's been following it really closely because she's a
pharmacist so the the drug aspect of all this is fascinating to her because
pharmacists anyway those things are interesting i
guess uh so so the drug supplier that was supplying the the drugs for lethal
injections was getting threatened to the point where they were like okay look
we're not going to supply it anymore so they had to source alternate drugs from
alternate sources that they were keeping secret and then basically what was
happening was you were supposed to do one drug and then another one and then
there was a collapsed vein somewhere in the mix and the first drug is supposed
to make the patient
victim um
prisoner
uh anyway the person the cute the sure executed thank you um cutie
it doesn't really work you can't spell execute e without cutie um so so
supposed to make them unconscious and then the subsequent injection or
injections were supposed to do the deed so to speak but there have been cases
where they appear to be trying to get out of the chair
which would imply that the pain that they're undergoing is also accompanied
by some level of consciousness so
i actually don't understand how we got on this topic again anyway that's like a
huge deal right now people were also wondering if it was intentional i really
don't know the details of the story very well this was not a planned discussion
so sorry if i'm wrong but apparently he took a very long prolonged time to kill
someone so like watched them suffer so people
were like well maybe someone set it up so that he was suffering
which like i don't know it all starts to sound like
a movie plot it does which is part of the problem which isn't to say that that
movie won't be based on a true story of what's happening right now yeah
again i i don't i just like i might have heard this on the radio i don't even
remember where i got it from this was not a planned topic sorry if i'm wrong i could definitely be wrong don't take
that as um that's about as disclaimed as
anything has ever been ever yeah exactly yeah so huge thanks to rainfall within
for posting the heartbleed cybercriminal thing on the forum that's what we were
talking about um apple iwatch production has allegedly begun and this was posted
by alex goes high thank you very much for that original article is from next
powerup so we're gonna go ahead and head over there this is a concept by the way
this is not actually what it's going to look like
fortunately because i don't wouldn't buy that so the china times has reported
that apple has gone into production so the rumor is that during the first
quarter of product availability there's going to be anywhere from two and a half to three and a half million units of
iwatch so that's in q2 and in the second quarter production is rumored to be
going to leap to 14 to 15 million units
i plan to buy one i plan to try it
and i will see what i think about it is there is there plans for like a
blackberry watch and a Windows watch i i know microsoft microsoft has
acknowledged the wearable market i don't know that there's an actual plan okay or
anything i think something interesting that we could do is a whole ecosystem
comparison video right get our hands on a Windows phone actually nokia has
offered to send us a Windows phone to try out i actually need to get back to them um because i would definitely do
that if you are ingrained in an ecosystem so you have their watch you
have their phone you have their os how well does it all work together how not
necessarily comparing like the os because we know a lot of people
including myself and a lot of the viewers aren't going to like um os 10
but like comparing how well they sync together and all that stuff like if
there's if there's ihome or whatever like getting that kind of stuff too i think that could be pretty interesting
speaking of uh how well things within the same ecosystem work together i think
i'll use this as an opportunity to give my thoughts on the galaxy s5 so samsung
sent me a galaxy s5 as well as a gear
fit i didn't have long enough with them i only had them for about a week so i
didn't have long enough with them to do a full review but what i told samsung is
uh um okay sure send it to me for a week
i'm not gonna do a review but i'll talk about it on my show so um i'm just this
is just my here just to give you guys oh sorry just to give you guys some idea
this is what my notes look like before i turn it into a script that
makes any kind of sense they're not in any particular order these are just
notes that i make to myself as i observe them so i apologize if this is a little
bit disjointed um i was impressed that even though the plastickiness of the
galaxy series is still very much there the actual flex to the phone is much
less than the previous generation s4 and i don't think samsung got enough credit
for that they managed to make the phone a lot more rigid without actually making
it you know out of a solid piece of metal the same way that other premium
phone makers do which isn't to say that i necessarily think that justifies
making all your phones out of plastic but whatever um i hate the positioning
of the lock button directly opposed to volume
it just seems like nobody can get this right nobody can find two spots on a
phone to put volume and lock where you don't have to press all of them apple
gets it more right than most g2 yes apple gets it more right than most
because their buttons are stiff enough that you won't accidentally press them
when you're trying to press one or the other but on the galaxy s5 i was
constantly accidentally mashing the volume when i was trying to lock or
unlock the phone an issue i don't have nearly as much with the one because you
can wake it up by tapping on the screen another thing that the g2 which you
don't have anymore does really well back to the going back
to a hardware home button really felt like a step backwards um when i did my
1m8 review i talked about how i felt like it was a mixed bag
but i had never tried to go from my 1m7
to my 1m8 and then back to the 1m7 with its hardware buttons and what i realized
is that going back after having used the 1m8 for so long
really felt like a last generation implementation i've gotten used to them
now the extra width is more noticeable
than you would think due to the thicker edges so that's the width of the phone
physically itself i couldn't figure out what i was talking about until the end there um so
even though the htc one m8 is quite long in order to accommodate those boom sound
speakers i i really like the speakers i'm willing to make that trade-off and
on the s5 that width really made it challenging for me to use it because of
my small hands but um
the shape and all that basically it was not it was not easy for me to handle
compared to the one i made um with that said everyone's making fun of the
backing material on the s5 i like it it reminds me of the first gen nexus 7 and
i think it's great that's that grippiness is probably the one thing that made the phone somewhat manageable
for me because i really didn't find the shape that easy for me to hold the one
m8 by contrast especially the
titanium version the one that i have is quite slippery
another contrast between the one i made and the galaxy s5 is the crummy speaker
positioning it is so noticeable coming from a device with
front-facing speakers going to something like the iphone 5 with them bottom
mounted speakers or something like the galaxy s5 with that horrendous
rear-mounted speaker implementation that was one thing that i wanted to bring up
actually is you you scalded it slightly for the hardware home button yes do you
feel the same way about that one no the thing that i don't like about the i
because this button has other functionality even if it's just a
fingerprint reader okay and having the you know okay so
it's not the home button i guess that bothered me it was the multitasking and
the back because i like the way that things shift
around contextually when i rotate the phone whereas with this it's just one
button it's just always one button whereas if it's things that can actually
change a little bit and can indicate oh hey right now you're going to be lowering your keyboard versus right now
you're going to be going back within your program i like that and i've gotten
used to that right um anyway rear mounted speakers are
terrible they need to go away um
prompting about default oh oh this is good i originally had this down as a
really positive point about the phone because i had to look up not that long
ago how to unbind default applications
for actions within Android because it's pretty hidden samsung
this the when you actually bind something by default says hey here's how
you undo it and the only issue is it comes up every time
and i was like really like there's no go away there's probably a way to disable
the notification somewhere within the touchwiz settings but i was just i was
amazed because or something yeah but it came up every time um i don't mind
samsung's keyboard but like so many things in touch with i really feel like it takes up too much of the precious
screen real estate uh gesture based smartwatch waking is still terrible i
guess i'm shifting gears to the gear fit now so i the whole time i was using the
s5 i switched from my pebble to the gear fit and there are some things about it
that i like the screen is beautiful i think the industrial design is a lot
better than the pebble but gesture base waking is terrible and if you're gonna
have gesture-based waking make it a flick like pebble to turn on the
backlight don't make it this contrived thing
samsung had every opportunity to just make it so i can flick it or tap it in
order to see what's on the screen and they didn't do it it's just asinine and
the battery life on it is good enough that they should at least give you the
option because it lasted a good five or six days in the default scheme where the
screen was barely ever on and if it was on more often when i'm just waving
around and i only got two or three days out of it i could probably live with
that a lot more than i could you know having the screen on all the time and
having it get having only getting like one day out of it
um i understand the htc chin bar now
the back button on the s5 is so low that
it's actually uncomfortable to reach so having that chin bar on the one is a
more natural position for the hand versus trying to force your thumb and
contort it down here so as much as the chin bar was something i complained
about in my one m8 review a couple of things so number one is i get it now and
number two is when i complained about the unevenness of the keyboard in
landscape mode someone pointed out hey Linus if you just went this way then
you'd have your software contextual buttons moved to here and the chin bar
here and it would actually be centered again so
good design on the one i realize i'm bringing up a lot of good things about
the one m8 in my s5 impressions that's five review the one m8 love story
um i figured out what i don't like about touchwiz because it's really not that
slow anymore oh yeah so this was the note that goes along with that
information density thing information density is so low the stock messaging
app makes me crazy in spite of the larger screen and no on-screen buttons
there are actually fewer texts on screen compared to sense ui
why and i mean you look at the way that they've talked about some of the things
that they do how it's like old people optimized maybe that's what it is maybe
that's why i don't like it i like really high information density on my screen i
like to use the real estate because i can see just fine and i can i can press
things accurately but maybe touchwiz just isn't made for me if you if you're
on your samsung phone can you go to google default keyboard instead of the samsung keyboard yeah yeah yeah but that
doesn't change the fact that your text app just everything takes up too much space
yeah and and you can get a different text app too of course but why load it
with these things it's in my well not for this one but it's in my default
download programs for another one a custom text app so um text size scaling
doesn't even help much because in things like the settings menu um ui elements
are still huge they don't resize only the labels do right right uh i love the idea of the
gear fit i hate the gesture thing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the strap
on the gear fit is janky it's not that easy to put on it's actually did i show
it to you it's just two little nubbins that go into the other side there's no
actual like like just go with the tried and true on
that one like why i like i understood with the original galaxy gear they
wanted to put like a camera and a microphone and it's like okay i don't agree with you but i understand what
you're doing with the gear fit just put a watch strap
on it don't reinvent the wheel this is
literally like like that is the most perfect use of don't reinvent the wheel
that i have ever managed to come up with
you're in reinventing something that's been around for hundreds of years and is
tried and true it attaches here and here
and clasps here that is all
um oh yeah and the the uh the vertical
design of the of the gear fit is terrible because most of the schemes for
it are right side up like this
there's two watch faces for it that are right side up like this and once again
information density they don't take advantage of all that screen real estate
what i would like to see is time here weather here the date here and like use
up all that space instead it just puts like massive tall numbers like this i'm
just like so you're gonna have to you're gonna have to do your like huh
yeah it's gonna be like a like a martial arts
like training
club secretly
secretly the koreans are building an army
oh my goodness um that'd be epic don't
do the nod thing the setup process for the gear is great when you pair it the
app just installs automatic jiggly automagically i think that's fantastic
there's no share to youtube by default in the gallery on the s5 what which for
a youtuber like me is just infuriating and you know what within the youtube app
on iOS you can't just upload you can only upload to youtube from the gallery
so i'm just like how are these things so broken so that'll be something from my iphone
5s review right i think that is pretty much it that
those are my thoughts on the galaxy s5 i really don't think the build quality is
as bad as people are making it out to be it's just that the industry has moved on
and samsung's small improvement is not
enough when you compare it to sony's latest phones htc's latest phones and
anything apple's made in the last since the iphone 4 i guess so in like the last
four or five years right all right speaking of phones this is so
fantastic i love it oh yeah yeah this is
really cool you gotta go back up when you're done this one okay but yeah i
don't even think i care that much about that bluetooth ring i just want to talk about uh
the the creation that ghost and i came up with which we both think is vastly
superior sure um okay so this is the pie phone it was
created by a software engineer really cool
so cool so it's made out of a raspberry pi here do you want to walk because i
got this playing for them sure uh so it's made of a raspberry pi a
touchscreen which he gives the name of inside the video a 2
500 milliamp hour lipo battery uh gsm
gprs module and the total cost is around 158 dollars that being said
he just like got it working yeah these are zip ties yeah like like
yeah like literally it's zip tied together i think this is
more of a like look this works you can do this not necessarily this is the best
possible situation there's also some issues one of the reasons why it's not
in a case is because without heat sinks on it the thing gets really hot and if
it was actually in an enclosed case you might have problems with it so
like it's not there yet right now it only supports calling so he shows here
he actually does call someone unfortunately the number shows on screen and now it's blowing up but i love
engineers because check this out he built a cell phone
and then it's presumably his wife in the background
and he's uh calling the he so he calls himself he calls his own landline check
this out
hold on a second what's my number again
engineers man engineers man
that's funny whatever man i love engineering it's really cool i had to
show taran this immediately scratch builds cell phone can't remember phone
number whoever you are what's what's the what's
the guy dude hunt david hunt you are so awesome like you are so awesome i love
people that are just that into what they do yeah that what they do is more
important than their own phone number yes like you are cool and it's actually pretty
awesome i thought this was super cool i hope it goes further because we need to
get away from the ultra attractness of everything right now because it's kind
of horrible and yeah that's about it for that one an
actually open source os yes unlike what Android has turned into yeah seriously
but then it's just a matter of time until someone turns it into not open source again so whatever uh
where are we moving on to okay so the the nod the nod
so this was posted by topwar gamer originally on the forum and this is a
bluetooth ring um should we should we just show the video of this because we
can demonstrates it pretty well we can show all the that probably doesn't work
that wayness of the video
my biggest problem with this is actually that it's based around bluetooth oh
shoot i'm not screenshot because bluetooth is just like the biggest thing that doesn't work very
well in my opinion there's there's so many problems with it pairs but they decide
not to talk to each other or it won't pair or something else is paired to it i
know but it's still kind of rough it's gotten a lot better it's still kind of
rough i don't know you like it roughly i don't think you can switch in between devices
easily enough for a ring to be what i'm going to want to use and
i i don't i don't i wouldn't how much is it 150 bucks 150 yeah 140 yeah 150 bucks
i don't think i would pay 150 for something that looks very elegant
because of how well photographed it is here but it's actually
super chunky yeah like this is a finger that's not even a
skinny finger this is a third the width of a finger
like sticking out of the inside of your hand it's really big it's it's
they show a guy in the video like playing halo i'm like no man
here's the video we'll just we'll let you guys it's really short so do you
want to talk about what your concept is while they check out the video okay so
not just mine definitely ghost is in this as well i we we started arguing
about the merits of this ring and we ended up coming up with the thing that
we would rather it was right so this actually totally worked out so we would
get rid of almost everything in this ring we would leave it with just the
swiped texting kind of idea yeah but remove the actual ability to
like do that on a tv it now only pairs with your smartwatch yeah when a text
opens up you can read it and then
come up with different shapes like you could bind shapes to different words or
you could go with a keyboard mapping so like yes on a keyboard is probably not
going to be any other word if you're one word texting so if you went like this
it types here right now okay so if you waved your hand in a shape if you wave
your hand in a shape that correlates with either a keyboard design you could you could set it up however you want a
keyboard design or maybe you bound it to a circle so yes is a circle
so you get a message on your smart watch and you just go whoop
and you can reply that way i don't like your idea i think the
functionality is too limited if it was like 20 bucks no that's that's why oh so
you want it to be cheap that's why we're moving everything because it's supposed to be dirt cheap
and nice and much much much smaller hopefully embeddable in an actual ring
right i think we're a few generations of technology away from a smart ring that
actually makes an ounce of sense yes this one isn't it to me i might order
one just to try it so that i can tell you guys how stupid it is um i like the
idea just like that huge like wrist like
uh wrist communicator size smartwatch the neptune pine uh yeah it'll come at
some point i i ordered it they're they're still progressing so sure why
not uh in the thread where this was posted by topwar gamer he he said that i
would be super interested because i'm interested in interacting with things in different ways and he was totally right
and i do find this interesting i just do not think this is the one i mean in
theory it allows a bunch of different stuff it can be a universal controller
allowing effortless communication with all of your smart devices and your
connected life including phones tablets google glass watches home appliances tvs
computers and more you can use it as a media controller you can use it for
selfies to answer calls so you could like use it as like a remote you know
camera shutter for example you can the flat surface of the ring so
it's meant to be worn on the inside the way that they're wearing it which would just make it uncomfortable to work your
fist the worst possible um so the flat surface of the ring is meant to be um if
it has a tiny capacitive touch panel with two programmable buttons on either
side and then you can type in the air similar to swipe and the battery lasts
for a day
yeah i'm not really interested in this one but like imagine you took almost all
those features out and just made it made it work with your smart watch in some
sort of way that's the only thing it has to pair with do because i'm not really going to want to use this for much else
anyways right um that's the only thing it has to pair to so you're not going to
screw around with bluetooth that much when bluetooth is only trying to do one
thing like if you're not repeatedly trying to pair it with a billion different things throughout your day
it's actually usually pretty okay so if you pair the ring and the
smartwatch and just leave it it's probably fine and then if you came up
with stuff like gesture controls for doing certain things i think that could be cool because smart watches are really
interesting and i would like to be able to interact with them more but when
we're seeing stuff like the google what is it called
is it google watch i don't remember but it's essentially google now but it's the watch level
oh yeah i remember reading about that yeah um that kind of stuff is a lot of voice
controlled interaction which like if you're in a meeting yep
you don't want to talk to your watch yeah text message mom yes that's fine
when you could just be like oh it's up spin done right i mean i think really
for me if it's super cheap the the the holy grail is going to be
some kind of eye tracking technology that i can use to control things
so you know some a google glass type device
that is way better and way cheaper oh yeah um that i can use to
just kind of like do stuff quietly while people aren't paying attention
yeah speaking of google okay hold on we got oh it's gonna have to be way better
again two more topics that we really need to get to the teardown so one
posted originally by nice hat i want to do this one first because i have a poll
question that i wanted oh yeah can we create a poll in the meantime sure um so
businessweek.com has an article about china's plan to
build a massive gaming
like um they're calling it like a park but they
mean park like industrial park as far as i can tell like not like with slides so
the idea is that the centerpiece is going to be a massive gaming stadium
for things like live tournaments and then around it they want to attract oops
i haven't actually shown around it they want to attract
game companies to set up their their offices there and turn this into
like a like a video gaming sort of hub
um fascinating
my my my only problem with this is like a lot of my i have a lot of friends that
watch esports like my main core group of friends pretty much everybody watches
esports at some level right maybe not that much but they do watch it and the
main common theme i find is it's nice that you can watch it on a tablet or
your computer and while i think a lot of our group
would go out to these events to see these things i don't actually see a
crazy amount of people doing it and one thing is that i know that when i was in korea
i went to the starcraft finals it was
being streamed in two places the arena that it was in and uh gum tv which is
another one when i was at gome tv there was four people there
and they had live casters two of the most famous casters in the world live
casting it there's four people there right um okay where the actual tournament
actually was with the players so you're gonna expect to see a lot more people
there that make sense there was a lot more people but until the actual final
round there was a few empty chairs and the there was none of the standing
room was taken up the final round boom full and then everyone disappeared
so basically you're saying that live attendees for esports events are like
vancouver canucks fans
i see that correlation and like the thing is i'm sure i'm sure it will be
attended i just and like there's been league of legends ones where they're
freaking huge right my only thing is i
mean they filled the staples center yeah with a tournament at that point so i
just they need to make it more um how do i even say it i think one of
the problems with the one korean one is it wasn't very accessible so they need to make this very accessible so they're
going to have a heart so your your issue is they're going to have a hard time
keeping the seats full often enough to justify a facility that for the big game
yeah this phase alone is going to be costing i think it was 480 million big
games and big tournaments and stuff i totally see them filling it
yeah so so uh 480 million just for the
arena and the first phase um and then 2.8 billion total
and if you can only fill it up with you know 15 000 fans like
you know but then again 15 000 is honestly not
that high of a number yeah so they might be able to fill this thing up all the
time because that's not that high of a number
i just don't know i'm talking about like big crazy stable center level
uh stadiums i don't know if you can fill that up on like a weekly basis okay so
if it's part of a wider gaming themed park like facility would you consider
traveling there for like a trip as a tourist attraction
china scares me a little bit well okay if let's say it wasn't in
china would you consider traveling to something like that i went to korea to
see this starcraft okay so there you go honestly i this it it works for me i
would want to go see this i would go there every once in like if it was local
i'd love to go see games i just i worry
about so i want to hear from you guys is this
another crazy building project in china
where there's going to be entire ghost well they've already got ghost
cities over in china entire cities of basically
unpopulated buildings because they built all this stuff assuming that the money
and the people were coming and then they they just kind of didn't is this going
to be another one of those projects or is this a stroke of genius and it's
amazing no one did it sooner and is this going to turn into an esports mecca
personally i think this post yeah okay personally i think this one will work
will it become a mecca yes or no um will it will it be will it be a success
okay there uh so slick's gonna post the luke i
haven't called you slick in a long time luke's gonna be posting the uh the straw
poll into the chat very very shortly here in
the meantime there was one other topic oh yes titan z
has been postponed i think this one will work that's my vote um so brown ninja 97
posted this on the forum
here we go i'm just going to share with you guys while you guys vote
so titan z was supposedly going to be released on april 29th but according to
sweet clockers plans have changed the only thing we don't know is why
we do apparently have some more details about the titan z so we were looking at
a 180 megahertz frequency drop compared to the original 780 ti so
yeah and we were looking at a cooling system that was going to be a triple
slot cooler the first time we've ever seen a triple slot reference cooler out
of NVIDIA and i think AMD i don't think anyone's ever done a triple slot
reference yeah so it was um it was the
rumor that the speculation and i haven't heard anything about it one way or the
other is that titan z was was delayed because it's not going
to be competitive with the r9 295 x2
which is a liquid-cooled card that runs at the same speed as the full-fledged r9
290x except two of them on a single card
and that the titan z was going to be incredibly expensive i don't know if i
necessarily buy that because the titan z was not meant to go head to head
against the 295 x2 it's a compute card
with 12 gigs of memory and full double
precision unlockedness like it it's it's it's more
of a developer card i think part of the problem is their marketing was a little
bit confusing on that you could be right because they they did talk about it in
the in the sense and they always have with titan despite it not really being
that they have always marketed it on some level as a gamer well original
titan was launched as the fastest gaming gp on the planet yeah that was how it
was positioned for better or for worse um and then they they talked a lot
during the briefing call i remember my briefing call for titan because i was i
was late for my badminton ladder because i had to sit on a briefing call for
titan and then i had to leave the briefing call for titan make up some
and bull story about how my phone got disconnected so i could attend a
different briefing for like a different region that wasn't one of my original
options so i could actually hear what they were saying because i had to go get on a badminton court but anyway um okay
that's pretty funny uh but the branding was was to the reviewers it was very
clear this is about double precision this is about cuda development and if
gamers want to buy them then great but the way that it was positioned on like
GeForce.com was not very clear and there was a lot of the symbol the same
confusion about titan z so maybe because it wasn't going to be
competitive with a card that it was never really created to compete with
they're put in a bit of an awkward position yeah i think they might have dug their
own hole here i think the bigger story here
is i think this is maybe the end of the
line of dual GPU top end cards
i've never liked them you look at what AMD AMD resorted to
a prefab liquid cooler to make theirs work NVIDIA the the kings in my mind of
cool quiet elegant solutions not
compromising on like well not obviously not going back
to like the fx 5800 days but but of late
the NVIDIA that doesn't compromise on the overall experience to deliver more
frames per second resorted to a triple slot cooler in order to make this thing
function is that where we're at now is this is this the end of the line are we
at the physical limitations of the heat that we can remove and the power that we
can deliver to these cards and is it just the end now
i'm i'm i even have a different point but i do agree with you on that um
although i wouldn't be surprised if it did work i just bet you that they're looking into
triple slot coolers and stuff now because of results from 295x2
i wouldn't be surprised there because i do suspect it probably did work with the
dual slot cooler um but
i'm i'm surprised that like i i never liked them even when cases were huge
right it made more sense to have a billion graphics cards now a lot of
people are going to much smaller cases and smaller motherboards and smaller
situations so it even makes more sense now
and it's still not catching on
right and one thing that i need i think gpus are going really slow actually
we've seen this like we've seen a little bit iteration for a long time and you're
starting to see where like that card and even the 295x2 when
things are fully set up on really really high resolutions which are coming down
in price fast so people are going to start running them at really high settings
games at those resolutions are it's it's not that impressive
like barely over 60 FPS so then isn't that an argument for
more dual GPU solutions it is but it's also an argument for stronger single GPU
solutions i know this is hard to build slow iteration it's hard to build videos
sits on stuff well
you can make the argument either way i don't think anyone outside of NVIDIA
really knows what's happened over the last little while but what we do know is
that tsmc is not delivering
smaller process nodes so there's only so much you can do by
tweaking the design with something like maxwell to go okay it's more efficient
per watt and it does perform better but look guys this is all we can really do
if it's colder and more efficient per watt and performs better and all that kind of stuff then it should be easier
to make these dual GPU so then you want them to deliver a larger GPU
or that because even though it's more expensive or that right they're making a
lot of their but we should talk about GPU bomb costs if we're gonna talk about google glass bomb
costs uh it's not about the bond i know i know i
know okay let's talk let's talk about google glass should we talk about the
poll results yeah uh yeah let's do the poll results so guys the results are in
will china's gaming centric like
thing will it be a success most of you think
no i actually disagree i disagree wholeheartedly i think that particularly
because it's in asia and i think that because it's on the forefront it's going
to be the first one it is going to have the support of guys like mlg where
they're going to be like yeah we want to have every event there from now on
and once you make something into the default destination
then you kind of won at least for a while at least until competing
facilities start to show up and there is something to be said even if you're
watching on the screen i mean think about going to a concert unless you're
in like the first few dozen rows it's not like you can see the pores on the
singer's face and a lot of the time you're gonna end up watching the big
screen anyway so even though a gaming tournament is
very much like that you're not really looking at the players most of the time
you're looking at the screen it's more about people attend live events for the
atmosphere i personally don't like having lots of people around me they're
loud and they smell bad but lots of people like the atmosphere of
concerts and sporting events and that's what this will be unless you're still
watching on a screen it's it's about being around the other
people and cheering when the thing happens and the crowd going
and i think something like this can be a big success and i i think the timing is
right yeah three years ago i would have
laughed at it yeah me too and like with with china getting behind league of
legends so heavily i could totally see this because league
of legends is gonna be a huge big deal there this arena and league of legends
are gonna have to come together if that doesn't work then i don't think the
arena is going to work 100 they they have to work together or else
it's just no big deal so google glass costs 80 bucks to build this was
originally posted on the forum by shadow captain that's fine so the processor
costs 13.96 with the wi-fi and blue shift
bluetooth chips coming in at our bluetooth chip coming in at 10.79 and
the camera 5.66
if they increase the bom cost they could put in a way better camera they could do
all kinds of interesting stuff and still make a profit but something that people
need to understand so anyone who is like upset about the bomb cost of a product
like this it is not about the bomb cost it is
about and for oh sorry bomb means bill of materials so the actual like list of
things on a spreadsheet that go into it and the the 80 includes assembly
apparently yeah but it's not about that it's about the extremely expensive
engineers that you have to employ for a long period of time before you can
actually release it that all needs salaries
so there's there seems to be a fair bit of outrage that google's charging 1500 for
because i mean it's something to remember guys is they don't want people to buy it not really they only want
people to buy it who are serious business like developers and stuff and
going to develop for it or or uh provide
like massive media coverage for it or people who can afford to spend 1500 on
something to try it to be one of the first ones that's who they they don't
want everyone to have one because they know it's not ready yet it's like oculus
developer kits yeah they don't want everyone to buy it they say outright
they kind of did kind of but they wanted developers to buy it they don't want
every joe to buy it and then like do a review of how it the pixels are big yeah
you don't want people to have a bad experience with the product you'd rather
just not have them have it at all it's fairly and that's an interesting uh
point because it's fairly well documented that oculus looks like a
screen door and the google glass experience is really not that good yeah
and that's because they're both not what those companies want them to be yet
that's right so you're going to pay you're going to pay more and then there's even a lot of
speculation that cv1 consumer version one of oculus rift is going to be
cheaper than some of the development kits have been or all of the development kits have been
interesting if you think about it the mass manufacturing possibilities behind
a consumer version are much higher than the development version if you're only
making a very small amount of something like
development kit one wasn't a huge amount so if you're only making that much it
could cost more all right so unless you have something
else that you feel is incredibly important we do have a few more things
on here but i think that like needs to be done i think that's pretty much it for the
lanchow we thank you guys very much for tuning in the weather's beautiful so i'm
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honestly you guys fridays are very tiring at the end of
very tiring weeks so he does a lot of stuff on friday and this morning was
worse than usual i had to go to uh see an accountant about our like Linus media
group tax filing and stuff
yeah that doesn't sound fun at all
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