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welcome to the WAN Show guys you know what's funny because i actually received

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a complaint from one of our sponsors earlier this

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week um where well well it's not so much that

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i received a complaint as they received a complaint it was a major sponsor of

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ours so one of our one of our long-term

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relationships that we've had for a long time that's how long-term relationships

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work they last a long time i mean unless it's

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you know ah there's no good place this can go so it's a long-term sponsor and

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what happened was they actually received a complaint about the obscene content of

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a friday stream that was sponsored by

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said sponsor so i freaked out i'm like

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oh man i'm not always the most politically correct guy in the world i

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think we can all we can all agree on this uh slenderman definitely knows

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that i'm not always the most appropriate boss you know when it comes to touching

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and and words that i say but

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i was like okay well it must have been something particularly horrible if

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someone's complaining about it sounded really bad what sometimes i'm not an appropriate

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boss when it comes to touching and words that i say well like you know

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poopsicle okay

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that's what i meant so basically i'm freaking out i'm running

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around trying to download the archive twitch isn't working i can barely load a

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page on the site and i just want to watch the archive and i go oh no hold on

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youtube so i go on the youtube when i'm like oh this doesn't look that bad and then i go

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after party maybe something happened on the after party and so i'm like trying

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to get on twitch again i'm like i can't see this show i don't want to admit to

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guilt before i figure out if i did something wrong so at the end of it all

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get this i'm like still running around i get this

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email thank goodness for the pebble because i knew about the email

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immediately and it's like oh upon getting further clarification it

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was actually one of the participants in the chat

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of your show that said something obscene

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and i was just kind of sitting there going i was like

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really really the obscene content of my show is

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someone in twitch chat i don't think the public internet has a

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proper esrb rating i really don't think it does

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come on guys so that that was where my upset ended

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that was where my stress ended make bombs thank you for whoever's in

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the twitch chat doing that speaking of twitch chat being inappropriate um so so

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i was just they were like oh well you know do you think you could like get

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moderators i'm like yeah we're on it okay we've got this we've got this under

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control we are going to add so many moderators that you're not going to be

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able we're going to moderate well we moderate what would happen if we made

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everything can can moderators time out other moderators i don't think so

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okay so i was going to say if we made every single person a moderator i yeah

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that creates more problems than it is i know i know

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so we've got a great show for you today guys we've got a number of topics number

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one is the titan z or titan zed if you

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prefer from NVIDIA has allegedly been postponed and by allegedly i mean it was

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supposed to launch three days ago and it's not here so

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yeah the word on the street is actually well

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you'll have to wait for the word on the street why don't you just watch the show for a change you know how many people

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tune in for the intro and then leave i've been watching the twitch numbers

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really they're just like what did what do Linus and luke think no i'm totally

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messy i'm gonna say i'm pretty sure it goes up nobody does that

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like you push it goes up like for a while people watch the show to stare at

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your hunky good looks not because they want to watch the intro and then leave

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that's cute um also google is

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rumored to be launching the Android silver program and we've got a few

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details of what that would be but it sounds like some kind of a mishmash of

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the nexus program and google play edition phones and the love child that

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exists from that sort of pairing and actually people were freaking out

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initially when rumors started to swirl about nexus phones going away but in my

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mind this could be a very good thing more on that later we have china

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building an esports station i love saying more on that later

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because it's like it implies that whatever we say about it will be stupid

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more on that later anyway sorry

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oh man and nissan is developing a paint that

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will resist both water and oil more on that later

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that's a smart idea but i'm just that's not stupid you're

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done you're not even doing it right i'm gonna play the intro

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uh

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so we got a couple of sponsors here for you guys hotspot shield is the fast easy

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we've actually recently done a fair bit of talking about the g750 on the show

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and we're gonna keep doing that today because we are both powered by the ASUS

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g750jz i still need nutrition to some point and he's talking about a rapper so

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nutrition yeah you said we're both powered by it but we're not we're more

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powered by like stuff that we eat and drink not necessarily the laptop

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were you thinking of that all week no actually

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i was thinking about jay-z the whole way okay well then put more effort into it

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next time if you're gonna say something stupid when i talk about the g750jz

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i want some premeditation so i'm gonna pre i'm i will do this i will plan out

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some sort of thing focused around jay-z for next week

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you're awful all right so let's move on to our first topic of the day

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nissan develops water repellent technology for their cars now that's a

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bit of a that's a bit of an oversimplification it's not actually

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nissan that developed this uh hydrophobic and oleophobic coating

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forward for clarification hydrophobic is water water repellent and uh oil phobic

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is oil repellent yes so but

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but they have developed the idea of putting such a coating on a car which to

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me like isn't that big of a deal but you know

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either way this video is freaking cool

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so we're gonna go ahead and watch it together and there's no sound so i will be the

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narrator nissan is this the world's first self-cleaning car

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driven by batman look at us painting it this is how paint

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works sometimes the paint has a hose that contains paint

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and you decide to turn the light off sometimes cars go on the road

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this is a windshield this is rain on the ground

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it's like backwards rain it starts on the ground it goes up your

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car and it contains sometimes mud this

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backwards rain evaporation repels water and spraying

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spray spray i was thinking of my shoulder because it hurts

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everyday dirt not just some day's dirt this is really impressive though okay so

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check this out check this out this final shot if the video is to be believed

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has not been doctored so you can actually find like a couple little

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things on it like there's a little thing here see that

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um and then down here this piece of plastic has actually clearly gone through the

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same treatment as the other piece of plastic one thing to note is that this

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is a left side vehicle so it means whenever they are like driving off the

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side of the road a little bit it'll be on this side so they did abuse the more

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you can kind of tell in the plastic yeah so you can tell in the plastic that they

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they abused this side more to make their

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point i think but that doesn't change the fact that the hydrophobic oleophobic

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coating everywhere where it isn't applied um or everywhere where it's been

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applied like on the paint here on the windshield is really really impressive i

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mean look at that we're just gonna here let's reframe on that for a second so

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you can see the way that the dirt and water just

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come right off of it now it's not the first time we've seen this when i saw

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nissan's video i went looking around for for other ones and i saw some really

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cool demos like taking a concrete cinder block and coating one

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side of it and just like trying to make it wet taking a glove yeah yeah and just

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like taking the two gloves and then putting them down on like paper towel

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and there's like like one drop there's really cool stuff where if you get a

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really nice camera and you like coat someone's finger in it and then put it

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in the water you can see like the layer around your finger where the water is

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not touching huh it's really interesting i'll try and

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find a video for you later um but some of my favorite ones is literally when

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someone just coats a shirt in it wears the shirt and then the other dude like sprays mustard or ketchup on them right

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and then just instead of going bl it hits them and then just falls off

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it's really it it like hurts the brain

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for the first few seconds so this was posted on the forum by probe nja so huge

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shout out to you for doing that and i think that's pretty much all there

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is to say about it nissan has said already that they have no plans to offer

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the paint as standard equipment but we'll consider making it an option you

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know what it to me is kind of funny what do you mean consider making it an

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option they have to be they have to talk like

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that i know because like what if something happens

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what if some patent comes out and then they're like oh there's no way this is

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gonna work because they didn't like you said at the beginning they didn't invent this this has existed that's why there's

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videos right like what we were just talking about people doing it um i can't

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remember the name but there's a brand that sells it just in spray cans and you

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can spray it on pretty much everything so

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yeah if you want to do this to whatever you do have to kind of worry like you

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don't want to eat this stuff i'm not even gonna bother read the label

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but something that's gonna repel liquids should probably not be ingested right

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well i mean the whole thing with scotchgard like you know why scotchguard

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sucks now right because they had to nerf it right yeah they had to completely

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change the formula the original scotchgard like my mum was under the

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impression that scotchgard was amazing so i went and like sprayed all of my ski

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equipment with it and like the first day i was like yeah i'm soaked this stuff is

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crap mom what on earth are you talking about she's like no no it's great it's

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great it's great Linus just put on all your stuff like

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okay disconnected

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um not working but then i actually looked into it and the reason they had

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to change the formula was because in the town where they manufactured it all the

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birth defect rate was like right right yeah so it was like a huge

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problem so yeah sure there could be some kind of environmental concern some kind

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of health concern that comes along with this type of a coating but at the end of

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the day if they are figuring out how to apply it to cars okay i guess the thing

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that i hate seeing is artificial segmentation like on our premium model

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we'll offer this option to have this oleophobic coating it's like you know

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what why don't you just paint the other car with it please just cover cover any

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car with it yeah because why not if you're buying it in mass it's probably

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not going to cost that much in the end and you wonder why consumers are sick of

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your crap when you artificially segment your

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products that way so i hope that nissan and anyone for that matter develops this

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the amount of water that gets wasted washing cars the amount of soap and

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cleaning chemicals that go down storm drains because not everyone is using

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environmentally friendly soaps when they clean their cars at least here in north

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america is pretty astounding i actually noticed the the culture seems a little

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bit in the places in europe that i've gone the culture about car washing seems

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very different so for example um i spent my honeymoon

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on the greek islands and i don't think i saw a single car that had probably been

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washed in the last two months like it just wasn't a thing whereas

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around here it's fairly rare to find a dirty car yeah and uh and that was just

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it was just a bit of an enlightening moment for me and i was just but then on

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on the polar opposite of that in france every single washroom you go into is

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going to be super pristine and here every single public washroom you go into

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is absolutely disgusting monstrosity

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another interesting thing is that i previous models of iphones i'm not sure

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if the current ones do but they have uh oleophobic coating on the screen the

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blackberry z10 could have probably used that yeah that screen was not very good

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i remember the problem you had with it with that said you do have particularly

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gross hands yes that is true but that phone was

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particularly bad at dealing with it like i i like i i even like fist bumping him

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no i'm sometimes i'm just like yeah

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it's pretty bad all right i'm not judging though i am

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you're gross you beat me to the punch on that one

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so this is right up your alley this next story here

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the famous fabled

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dumping ground for e.t the video game

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has been found so despite this being reportedly

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one of the worst games that anyone who's ever played it has ever played um people

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want to find it so badly because it's been kind of hidden away and it's really

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really really really hard to get your hands on so what happened was they dumped it in some

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landfill in new mexico and then never looked back and never yeah like they

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printed way too many copies of it way too many copies it was a total piece

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of garbage terrible so they just dumped it dumped it forgot about it it's

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in a landfill don't worry about it ever since then the internet has kind of gone

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insane it's had its ups and downs with this story but it's kind of gone insane

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the video game nerd also known as the cinemassacre group has been working on a

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video on it since i think 2007 there's a documentary going on right now and the

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people working on the documentary actually dug up the site and actually

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have found i've seen pictures of two or three of them now they look pretty

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smashed so i don't think any of them are actually going to work but we'll see who

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knows the last i heard none of the ones they had unearthed worked yet yeah but

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then that being said they might be able to remount chips right and make it work

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that way like maybe that cartridge doesn't work but that feels like cheating to me

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it kind of is but if you do want to get the game back um it might work in some

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form if you want original cartridge though i don't think they've unearthed one yet the the movie that uh cinemaska

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is making with angry video game nerd is gonna be like a science fiction

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adventure based movie so it's not really based around

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that much so kind of like e.t will there be an alien

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i'm sure there's going to be an alien i've seen parts of it um shoot me but it

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really doesn't look that good so

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i don't know we'll see someone will someone will attack me for that um but

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yeah that's honestly about it it's interesting i'm excited to see what

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comes with it i'm excited for the first one to hit ebay

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right that's that's what i'm and i'm excited to figure out what atari decides

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to do about this because they probably still technically own that land i don't think they've

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commented on any of this yet yeah so atari is just kind of

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but once someone starts making money off of this exactly i think the story

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changes a little bit i mean if you're atari you must be pretty desperate at

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this point yeah because like the angry video game nerd his is science fiction

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adventure based thing so i'm not too worried about that he's making a story

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and that's just based on the buried games it's not like yeah he's not planning to sell the

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cartridges or anything like that i imagine

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video game collectors would pay oh yeah

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and like especially to get one from the dig yeah so like i think it uh at the

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end of the day they're gonna i mean they're gonna excavate these and i suspect there's enough of them that

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something's gotta work unless they specifically smashed them before they

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put them down right right but i mean so i think there will be there

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will be tears right there will be the ones that are in basically like pristine condition and work there'll be ones that

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look good but don't work and there will be broken ones there's that game rating system have you heard

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of it before no you can you can ship in your unboxed game i can't remember the

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name of it right now but i'm sure someone in the chat will bring it up you can ship in your

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your like new inbox game and they'll rate

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how good condition it's in it's like any

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dents on the corners any rips anything like that they'll put it in a shell

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casing and they'll stamp an official rating on it

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so like if you get like a 95 rated nes game you can sell it for incredible

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amounts of money and it costs like 100 bucks just to get the service done

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so like if you get a high rating et that's from the dig

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it's gonna be worth tons and then atari might be like we

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technically own those so nope our money

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or they could just say nope they all go to us i'm really interested to see what

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atari does or if they just do nothing i guess we'll have to see they might just

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do nothing i wouldn't be super surprised if they did nothing to be completely

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honest oh well we'll see i guess Android silver

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yeah let's move on to Android silver so let's do a twitter blitz soon i'm sorry

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should we do twitter soon sure about what i don't know we just haven't i don't think we did a twitter blitz the

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last two weeks okay why don't we just do a random one guys hit us at linustech on

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twitter let us know if you have anything

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fascinating to ask us or comment on anything that we've talked about so far

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we're going to do a twitter blitz in a little bit here all right so our next topic is Android silver it was posted

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originally on the Linus tech tips forum by red round two and then the source

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article was on Android authority so this

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is a report going around right now that the nexus

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program so you know the nexus 5 the nexus 7 you know i really did wonder

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what they were going to do when they ran out of screen sizes to make it bigger

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that would also correspond to increasingly

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model numbers that didn't seem like the greatest plan

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from the get-go it's just discontinued

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it's gone don't worry about it we're not using the word one at least we came up

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with something else imagine they did that

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that would be three different Android phones that would be called one silver

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if they at least had the next iteration be a silver two

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so for two and like from there on i'd probably be

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okay with it when cell phones go down enough in price

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can we have the silver dollar

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i don't think that'll happen how about the uh how about the silver

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and sterling conflict

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you don't follow sports right not much oh do you know what's going on

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right now with the the the coach that just got fired no no the

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clippers owner oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i felt like i follow it enough yeah

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i just that's that's kind of the thing right now i i don't know i've been i

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actually had a really interesting conversation with uh with uh iago and

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the ncix tech tips crew when we were having lunch today

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and uh they brought up some interesting points what he says in the privacy of

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his own home no matter how foul and disgusting it is is not illegal

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um so to

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my conversation probably shouldn't have been leaked my thing is he's done way

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worse stuff in the past and and honestly

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like again because what he's done right now actually isn't illegal and and he's

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probably on the right side of of any law that could possibly exist

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to protect people who say things to people in public and then just have that

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turn into like a gigantic spiel he's probably on the right side of whatever

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that is but if you actually look at any of the media articles about this whole

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controversy right now people aren't even really going after him about

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the recording they're going after him for being an

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allegedly supremely foul human being

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and a lot of them well as far as i know he is i'm not entirely sure but just

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digging up a ton of the history and kind of going you know what this is just the

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cherry on top that we needed to catalyze

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what's going on right now because you're

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like the recording like again i don't like

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the fact that someone published a private recording i don't like that but

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then from what i've read he does seem like an extremely following movie and

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and i don't mean it's okay i don't like someone

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saying to someone i don't want you bringing a person of that ethnic

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persuasion no that is that is horrendous yes

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but um i also don't want that's

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even though it's wrong it's not illegal what happened

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you're you're it's not illegal to tell someone in private that like if i okay

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if i give you tickets to a play and i'm like look i don't want you bringing um

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say it correctly so this doesn't get taken out of context yeah i don't even i don't want you bringing a white person

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there that's probably the safest thing i can say don't bring any white people i'm

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allowed to say that it's not illegal because

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okay as your employer i probably can't say that but let's say it wasn't oh yeah

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you know i i disconnected that yeah yeah i just i still don't know

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and you could make the argument based on how old he is and the kind of

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relationship they probably had he might have been her employer so maybe

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it was wrong but that's a whole other ball of wax

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anyway i i don't remember where i was going with this anyway that's happening

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um the vga rating vga grader.com okay i'm

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jumping back to this because i don't want to talk about racist old guys

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anymore um but yeah see they put it in this jewel point at your screen i know

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they can't see it but i'm trying to show you really quickly they put it in a jewel case and they put it they stamp a

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rating on it it costs like a hundred bucks so it's basically

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gia except for games vga rating vgg

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vgg rating dot reader vgg raider substituting yeah okay raider

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oh bing is so useless okay here oh oh good

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they're screen sharing with me already so vggrating.com brings up g detox plus

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herbal capsule um okay

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so vgg raider all right google no i'm

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going to try searching for that i'm going to see if google manages to bring

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up what i'm actually looking for

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it's like you know what i give i give

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bing a chance time and time again i give bing a chance

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did you use uh Windows updates to download the bing desktop and bing

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toolbar no that's so frustrating

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no i didn't i'm like i'm actually looking for Windows upgrades i keep

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giving bing a chance and like okay

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i don't use google because i'm married to google and love google my love for

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google skin deep it works it's a it's a working relationship i

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tried to go to duckduckgo and then i was like this doesn't really work me and google we do our best here

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and we we fight through the problems but you stay together but we stay together

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man yeah bing because it's the default on

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internet explorer and i reinstall operating systems so often

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i often am lazy about installing my alternate browsers and i'll use ie and

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the default will be bing for a while and the only time i actually turn around

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and like get off my lazy butt and install my alternate browsers that i'll

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use google as a default is when bing just can't find anyone that

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does something like that when it does something like this look at those bing

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results okay office of quality of performance ssa.gov

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some patent for flame laminate polyether urethane

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i mean they're not even close genetics

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diamondbring.com and like what is this does that say fellatio book

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oh teleco book sorry how did you possibly i'm not they have books about

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that anyway do you have an idiot's guide v

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g grader.com so google managed to find it

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bing did not and that is incredibly disappointing anyway why don't we

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actually get onto our next topic here so from Android authority the nexus program

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retiring next year Android silver allegedly to take its place so what

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Android silver is going to be is a bit of a of a mishmash of the nexus program

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so nexus the idea was they support the phone with software for two years

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correct i believe i don't think there was a cap

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on it i believe there was there was well there was a guarantee yeah i think

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there's a minimum yeah let us know in the chat if you guys can uh if you guys

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can remember how long nexus devices get so anyway so a nexus device has to be

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this it has to be at an aggressive price it has to be from a well-established

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manufacturer and uh it has to be stock

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vanilla Android then on the other side we've got google

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play edition devices so we saw this with the htc one the galaxy s4 and we've seen

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it again with the htc one m8 in the galaxy s5 but what's interesting to me

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about silver is that i really think it takes the best of both worlds because

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right now you've got those play edition devices which for the htc one m8 for

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example the one that i think people should be buying if they're buying a play edition device the htc one m8 it's

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extremely expensive if silver could take the concept of play

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edition that is to say and what's cool about the play edition phones that are

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coming out now is how they come with

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basically stock Android but all of those cool

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vendor created customizations that can be added within a special subset of the

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play store so i love that approach i think that's

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great but if that could meet nexus halfway and be implemented instead of

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only on flagship devices that you have to pay full pop out of pocket for

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i forget where that sentence started if that could be instead of on just

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flagship devices that you have to pay full pop for if we could see that on

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mid-range devices or and this is the other big bomb

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carrier subsidized devices i think that's an incredibly positive thing

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because the cold hard truth and phone enthusiasts

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get over yourself not everyone

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buys a phone outright

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some people lock into a contract because quite

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frankly who cares you're going to pay

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your carrier anyway yeah

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it's not like you get a huge discount with a lot of carriers even if you say

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no to the phone they make you lock into a contract anyways

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at least here in canada yeah i don't know elsewhere but so so

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especially the tier one carriers a lot of the like tier two carriers you can

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just do like basically pay as you go yeah but but you're good i mean you're

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gonna you're gonna pay for a phone contract anyway

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so who cares not everyone upgrades their phone every year not everyone roots

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their device so for some people

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being able to get a high-end device for 199 on contract with a phone plan that

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they're gonna buy anyway is great so if we can have Android silver fill

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that gap by giving us more mid-range devices that deliver a basically stock

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google experience um where this is this is not quite like the google play

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edition one so the idea is that a silver device will come with the customizations

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off it but you can remove basically all of them yeah as opposed to coming

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without them but you can add them i'm totally okay with that what a fantastic

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middle ground yeah silver sounds amazing and one thing i really like is that um

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just i think you kind of already said this but the the subsidizing google is

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going to subsidize it and help make it cheap because i'm in a weird position

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right now well the rumor is google may subsidize the phones oh okay i thought

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it was a natural thing so rumor i think this is all rumors so far right okay

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yeah yeah um i'm in a weird spot because i'm done my contract but just sitting

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still paying the contract your carrier is a bunch of terrible people as well

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i'm not going to name anyone really bad so i'm looking to switch but then

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there's possibly new plans coming out so i don't want to switch right now so i can't get a subsidized phone in that way

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i don't have a phone right now i don't want to buy one because if i

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bought one then i'm gonna probably buy nexus five but then why wouldn't i wait

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for one plus one which is coming out soon which might be

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good which might be good but who knows they're an unproven manufacturer at this

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point so i'm in a really weird spot

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so i'm happy to see things speaking of really weird spots you just said you

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don't have a phone but i think you do

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show us your phone oh okay

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so i don't even want to show it so this is Linus's old iphone 4. so

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so i don't even have working yet luke was like uh oh hey um yo dawg could i

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borrow the uh the moto x and i was like ah you know i might switch to the moto x

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at some point plus it's got a nano sim and you have a micro set that's easy to

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fix but and you know what guys okay twitch chat

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back me up on this because what i've heard is that cutting down from micro to

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nano there's actually a lot more room for error than there is cutting down

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from full size sim to micro for example because the the plastic is so close to

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the contact so i didn't recommend that he do that especially because his

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terrible carrier charges him ten dollars for a new sim

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whereas mine i walked into the store i was like yo i got a new phone they're like yo you need a new sim

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let me set that up for you his carrier is the one that i'm trying to move to i'm just waiting for new plans and they

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didn't even set up your new sim for you no you had to like call right so yeah

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because on the website when i try to set it up for myself um it was a locked off portals like you

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do not have permission to do this i was like why is the button even there if

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it's if i can't do it whereas my carrier it's like here are the two phones and

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they like they like take the sim out for me put it

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in the other phone they make all the calls then like he hands it back to me

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he's like oh hold on hold on uh what's your number and he does like a test call

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from his own cell phone to make sure it's worked i'm like yo man you're

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awesome yeah you're cool as much as i hate giving you all of my money at least

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you're trying to make me not feel terrible if they make the experience not

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horrible i'd be happier paying the same amount that i'm gonna pay someone else

445
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:20,559
to them because i'm gonna i'm paying my carrier

446
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:25,440
whoever they are i hate your kids the same amount that you would be everything

447
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:30,240
about your carrier my 500 megabyte data every month fall in oh people are

448
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:35,760
asking i'm on bell so uh bell bell canada from my experience has been one

449
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,640
of the two lesser of all of the evils and i used to be on rogers and they

450
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,200
weren't bad either so i think that leaves one

451
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,600
yeah pretty much yeah so people can probably figure it out now so for the

452
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:51,600
first time ever luke is going to be using an iphone i

453
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:56,159
have no idea what i'm doing until he de-cheapifies enough to buy a phone and

454
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:59,360
that is going to be an interesting experience and you know what it's funny

455
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:05,039
because the timing is going to be really good because i recently switched back to

456
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,519
iOS i've been using an iphone 5s for the

457
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:10,960
last wow but you're happy about a week and a half i don't even like i can't do

458
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:14,399
anything i know but it's a learning experience okay so no hold on hold on

459
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:19,760
this is important for you i switched back to the iphone 5s not because i'm

460
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,360
unhappy with the one m8 i've seen a couple people notice that i pulled out a

461
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:28,480
5s in the middle of my videos i love the 1m8 fantastic phone i switched back to

462
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:32,480
the 5s because i think the upcoming iphone 6 is going to be absolutely

463
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,600
groundbreaking why does pressing the little button not

464
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,760
turn the screen on oh it did uh it's glitchy it's broken oh yeah you gotta

465
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:43,919
press it pretty hard okay yeah sorry i should have told you that um so i think

466
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,880
the upcoming iphone 6 with its larger screen size is going to be

467
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:51,200
groundbreaking not not because a larger screen is innovative but because apple's

468
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:56,159
going to have to make some serious changes to iOS in order to make a larger

469
00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:01,039
screen size work just little things like for example

470
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:03,039
within apps the standard placement for

471
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:07,760
back is at the very top left corner of the screen which i think for people who

472
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:12,320
have normal sized hands isn't a problem right now but when you go and throw that

473
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,279
design onto a much larger phone they're going to start having the same problem

474
00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:20,559
people like me with little hands have where in order to go back within an app

475
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,360
you're going to have to shift your your grip on your phone and people are going

476
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:28,559
to drop a lot of iphones unless they change that design so so i wanted to

477
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:32,000
refresh myself on iOS again

478
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:34,799
before i jump into the iphone 6 and it's

479
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:38,640
also it's also been exactly a year when i did my htc one m8 review was

480
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:42,320
basically one year from when i switched to Android so i wanted to go back for a

481
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:46,080
refresher and you know see how iOS has evolved in

482
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:51,519
the last little while so it was it was for a reason that i was doing that and so this i think is important for you to

483
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,760
actually get some perspective on the other side because i'm going to be doing

484
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,519
a review of the 5s i know i'm super late i don't care but the point is not going

485
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:04,399
to be the 5s the point is going to be i switched back to iOS what was it like

486
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,360
and the conclusion just to spoil it for you guys is you know what it's not that

487
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,960
bad there's stuff i miss about Android and there's stuff i'm gonna miss about iOS

488
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:16,720
when i switch back to Android siri is so much better than google now that it's

489
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,119
not even funny and make whatever arguments you want you're wrong siri is

490
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,240
better than google now right now that will change in the future in all

491
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,119
likelihood some of your claims were wrong i have a some of them were right i

492
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:32,960
have and the actual experience of using it is better i do

493
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,960
like the fingerprint thing too the fingerprint unlock

494
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,639
is really well implemented is it a bulletproof piece of security hardware

495
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,520
no no no it's nice and fast though but it's

496
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:50,079
very convenient um so so there's things i'm gonna miss about iOS but um at the

497
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:54,159
end of the day the conclusion that i came to is you know what it's trade-offs

498
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:58,960
one way or the other and i think if someone just put a gun to your head as

499
00:34:56,399 --> 00:35:03,040
an Android lover or as an iOS lover and said use the other one for a year for

500
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,880
the first couple weeks or months you'd be like

501
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,800
and then you'd be fine it would be fine you wouldn't die that's

502
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:18,880
the point you wouldn't die

503
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,880
that took a lot longer

504
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:27,920
now people might watch the video though because they're gonna be able to get that in a more formalized form and for

505
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,680
even longer yeah and the conclusion

506
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:36,000
will be the same yeah but i do make some more specific points

507
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:38,960
i actually have a pretty long bullet list it's going to be it's going to be i

508
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,640
think a pretty interesting video someone suggested that i buy a 3310 can you even

509
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,920
buy those still is that possible i don't think so it

510
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,119
wouldn't maybe used and how could you get one on a carrier the battery would

511
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:52,960
be super poopy yeah i don't think you would need the carrier subsidy

512
00:35:53,680 --> 00:36:00,400
watch them pay you to take it like here's here's 50 cash if you take this

513
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,599
phone on a plan that's fine same same plan cost though because it's my carrier

514
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,440
so they wouldn't you know what hold on

515
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:13,520
that was amazing time my phone just started it's tell us

516
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:15,520
what hold on i think that's who it is

517
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:20,160
that's them right yeah

518
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:22,240
what answer and answer no no that's

519
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,480
right come on come on no you have to that'll be amazing no i

520
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:31,920
don't want to talk to telus it's probably their customer set okay

521
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,920
it's probably the customer set up hello

522
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,440
hello

523
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:43,760
oh no it's ups it's ups uh okay oh i think telus is 310 not 210. that's a

524
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,000
really close anyway okay okay okay

525
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,599
i think you just stumbled on

526
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:56,800
actually a brilliant idea which really really low-end phones with

527
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:58,800
cashback yes so a recycling program for

528
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:03,520
phones imagine okay like there's so many

529
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:07,440
different facets of this so the carrier can probably get some kind of

530
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:11,599
governmental credit probably for implementing a regimen like this okay

531
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:17,520
um it all of a sudden opens up more premium

532
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:22,720
carriers to people who can't afford a phone at all or are even a little bit

533
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:28,720
tight on cash if you go okay look we had someone trade in this phone

534
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,720
or whatever and we will not only hand

535
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:34,079
you this phone to use but we're gonna give you two months credit if you lock

536
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:39,440
in for like six months tell you what just give us a try we're

537
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,480
going to be making our money back because we're going to lock you in for a

538
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,960
very short period of time subsidize at some point or something we're going to make this super accessible for everyone

539
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:50,640
we're going to have a positive environmental impact and what the way

540
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,760
that phone hardware is not changing in the same way that it used to the one m8

541
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:56,960
is faster than the one m7 but not the way the one m7 was faster than the

542
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:03,440
previous flagship like it's slowing down yeah how brilliant is that

543
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,920
you actually subsidize people to take

544
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:09,119
used phones and use them that does kind of make sense because i know a lot of

545
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,960
people that get rid of phones that are still working and like trade-in level

546
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:16,400
get rid of like not not even trying to sell it or anything like that because

547
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:22,160
like uh what am i trying to think of right now samsung s3s at t apparently gives you

548
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:26,160
store credit on your recycled phone i don't even uh what what about not store

549
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:30,160
credit what about the other way around someone on that phone yeah

550
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,960
because that's not solving the store credit isn't solving the recycling problem which is i think the main reason

551
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:37,680
why Linus is excited is the the recycling problem you're

552
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,680
giving people these phones that would just end up landfilled or

553
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,440
yeah because i don't know how much of a phone you can actually properly recycle

554
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,359
yeah so i want them to just like hand you a phone and cash

555
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,400
that's how i want it to work and you can like go buy a burger with your cash if

556
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,920
you really want to if you're willing to lock into a very short term i think that

557
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,520
would be really neat yeah i don't expect it to be a ton of money or me i liked

558
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,480
what you said about the what we'll pay your first two months kind of idea yeah

559
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:05,520
or something like that yeah like that's actually pretty cool you can get a phone

560
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:09,599
you don't have to pay for it for a while the phone is free imagine if carriers

561
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:14,320
were confident enough in their service that they were willing to offer a try

562
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:16,000
before you buy

563
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,480
maybe this is just a fantastic i would i would only be scared of people running

564
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,560
away with the phones but then if you're doing like low-end used phones

565
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:27,920
speaking of trying before you buy we should probably do our sponsor segment

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569
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570
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something not that long ago we have a new sponsor that asked us to go on their

571
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website and and uh pick out some like

572
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like a try at home thing but the canadian site doesn't offer that service

573
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and they have the most bulletproof geo

574
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575
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glass from canada they were more hardcore than google

576
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glass which was really difficult like to

577
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578
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trying to like pick out these things and the only way we could get on their site

579
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was to use hotspot shields so hotspot shield allows you to fake your location

580
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which is great for all kinds of things you can access content that otherwise

581
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might be firewalled in your country it's funny we've actually had quite a few

582
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people comment that hotspot shield's website is blocked in their country

583
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don't worry there are other websites where you can download hotspot shield

584
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you won't be able to use our link but you can oh man because they don't want

585
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people using hotspot shield to circumvent censorship

586
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so you can circumvent those kinds of things you can also use it with also

587
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it's not hotspot shield blocking them no oh

588
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589
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with hotspot shields so so a hotspot shield works on your desktop on your

590
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phone on your tablet on whatever else the case may be allows you to circumvent

591
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those kinds of pesky blocks as well as circumvent other geo restrictions like

592
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from video streaming services like netflix although the word on the street

593
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:10,960
is that hulu is cracking down on vpn users in general

594
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:15,280
has there been an update to that i don't know if there's been an update to that but that was definitely a thing yeah i

595
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,160
don't think netflix wasn't a part of that netflix wasn't part of that so you can definitely still use a lot of video

596
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streaming services with hotspot shield you can decide oh i want to be from

597
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great britain i want to be from us i've had people who tried hot spot shields so

598
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guys do give it a try i've had people try it and say hey lioness it's load down my internet

599
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like you don't use hot spot shield when you're gaming it's a one button to turn

600
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601
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will be terrible because you are intentionally redirecting all of the

602
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603
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it goes to wherever it needs to go i mean the server could be down the street from you you could normally get like

604
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three millisecond pings and and you're redirecting it to like the uk and back

605
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,960
the amount of people that are convinced that i i play counter strike in valve

606
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:05,119
headquarters is amazing because i somehow get five ping when playing

607
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,920
counter-strike right so everyone's just like oh my god if i'm ping and i'm like

608
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:12,560
yeah i'm on land i'm at valve hq like whoa cool i've convinced so many people

609
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:16,640
that's totally off topic but fantastic i thought it was awesome all right our

610
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other sponsor of the show today is ASUS with the g750jz

611
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614
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it is a cream of the cream gaming notebook with a gtx 8adm and the big

615
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thing here is that it exists within a

616
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pricing realm that is actually not that different from something like a

617
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,560
gaming desktop is it exactly the same no

618
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could you get a slightly better value for your dollar with a gaming desktop in

619
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:59,520
terms of sheer FPS per money spent out of your pocket yes but the point is that

620
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it's not completely out to lunch anymore and it does have the added benefit of

621
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being portable the coolest thing i think about it is the fact that the gtx 880m

622
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inside here i mean we've known forever

623
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:16,000
that the m version is not the same

624
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:19,520
no as the not m version that goes in a desktop machine but what we've never

625
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:25,200
seen before is only a one generational gap

626
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:29,040
between the m version and the desktop version

627
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this is almost equivalent other than the memory clock speed to a gtx 770 so

628
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:38,640
you're getting a very satisfactory gaming experience in recent titles like

629
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:43,200
bioshock infinite battlefield 4 on a notebook because it's actually clocked

630
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at almost the same speed as a 770 desktop card which if you guys remember

631
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:52,319
is about equivalent to a gtx 680 so

632
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,160
that's only flagship wise one end and an

633
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:58,079
increment because we got the 780 and then the 780 ti so like one increment

634
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,920
and then one full generation back from a current flagship desktop card which i

635
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,440
think is really really cool it also runs cool enough that we can actually survive

636
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:09,680
this show with them on our lap yeah they're actually not bad no sweat marks

637
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:12,880
on the bottom i've i've had laptops before that if like because i'm wearing

638
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:19,040
shorts right now you're wearing jeans so you might have survived but like it's sitting on my bare knees and if it was

639
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:23,119
bad i i would not be comfortable right now and it's totally fine so there you

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go guys thank you huge thank you to our sponsors hotspot shield and ASUS who

641
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also happens to be the presenting sponsor that's why that laptop sits there uh for providing us with these

642
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notebooks and these vpns that we legitimately need to do our jobs

643
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:41,040
yeah yeah uh one thing that i want to bring up really quickly i don't have this as a

644
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,079
topic because one i don't live in the states in two this is a very deep topic

645
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:47,680
and i don't have time to fully research it but fcc chairman whatever his name is

646
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:52,400
something wheeler people are trying to get him kicked out because he's doing a whole bunch of bull

647
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:55,359
crap and there's stuff going on so if you live in the states and you're

648
00:44:53,599 --> 00:45:01,200
interested in net neutrality and all that kind of stuff maybe do some research on fcc chairman tom wheeler

649
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:06,160
someone just said it in the chat yeah chat is so useful except when it's just

650
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,760
a bunch of nonsense yeah and like gets me angry calls from sponsors about how

651
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,680
like our content is obscene yeah all right so

652
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:18,400
let's go ahead and do that twitter blitz we promised you guys professor nick butler can you comment on

653
00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:25,119
a hypothetical Corsair RGB keyboard release date oh man

654
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,880
i'm sorry i can't what i will tell you

655
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:31,760
is that i okay they didn't show off RGB at pax

656
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,160
no but i believe they are planning to show

657
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:40,800
it at computex that is all that i know i know that

658
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,960
barrington one of the watchers of the wine show and the after party has

659
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:49,200
apparently won one of them they had that contest thing going on really so he's

660
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:53,839
getting it whenever it comes out i guess so barrington will probably be a good

661
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:56,560
person to ask because when he or she him

662
00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:59,040
him when he gets his tracking number well

663
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,680
we'll know yeah we'll know that either Corsair is shipping him a brick

664
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,599
watch oh my god that would be the best troll ever if they shipped everyone like membrane

665
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:13,280
keyboards and they're like you can use these until the new one shows up is just

666
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:15,760
a trick would that be like a good viral

667
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:19,680
thing okay like remember when microsoft did the whole like uh xbox one in the

668
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:24,480
shark tank thing yeah if it turned out that that xbox was

669
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:30,319
actually full of like lizard on trails or something like is that funny or is

670
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:32,640
that just them like like does that get

671
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:36,000
i think the sharks would eat it right

672
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:39,440
okay let's just move on in portugal carrier locked and no contract a bunch

673
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:44,560
of phone pricing in dollars that probably i can't relate to oh that looks

674
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:49,280
like corrected is that us lg g2 for 622 isn't that cheap

675
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:53,200
no that galaxy s5 for 900 bucks actually

676
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:57,359
i'm gonna do my thoughts on the galaxy s5 as well as the gear fit later on in

677
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,960
the show so how much did g2s cost then uh i don't know less than that i think

678
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:05,359
any chance biosubject for example that devil's canyon k

679
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:11,119
cpus will work on d87 motherboards and if not why um i doubt it um often aside

680
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:15,760
from updating the chipset even when there's no socket change Intel will

681
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:20,960
update the electrical specifications of the socket to be capable of things like

682
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,560
tighter voltage regulation for example so a lot of the time you'll get newer

683
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:31,359
motherboards so for example very late lga 775 motherboards could

684
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:32,640
work with almost every previous lga 775

685
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:37,200
CPU but then the later lga 775 cpus were

686
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:42,240
like barely backwards compatible if at all and that that was probably the best

687
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:46,720
example of a very long-lasting socket whose compatibility actually

688
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,160
forward and backward wasn't very strong so it's 650 bucks

689
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:54,079
are you gonna make a video about the april updates to shield uh there is some

690
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:58,240
really cool stuff i had not planned on a dedicated video we have talked about

691
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:02,160
them on WAN Show before apparently something about a recipe from

692
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,599
canada thank you barnacles silver makes me wonder what the gold

693
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:10,960
tier would be if they add one you know what i don't think there's any rumored

694
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:14,960
gold tier i think the the the Android program is just called silver

695
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:19,440
but who knows i guess they're leaving themselves flexibility up and down

696
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,280
yeah seriously platinum deer will you guys ever come to

697
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:25,920
dreamhack we're not really planning on it right

698
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:31,680
now but that's not to say that anything's impossible yeah watching lan show on a toilet

699
00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:38,160
okay touch screens are the work of the devil

700
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:41,840
we've we've gotten off topic a little bit something about not liking maple

701
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,760
syrup barnacles get off my twitter feed

702
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,599
i don't even know if that guy's watching in sweden there's a 14-day free trial

703
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:53,359
for phones and contracts can only be used once per person but it's great why

704
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:57,119
is sweden so progressive about everything because they're awesome

705
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:02,079
and they're from scandinavian scandinavia is awesome um i'm in a

706
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,599
dilemma you can't cameras i think the 12 hertz thing is a troll from the new egg

707
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:11,280
guys ah because our equipment is so much better

708
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:16,000
than theirs and the skill the operators using them

709
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:19,839
and the people in front of them i know everything about our operations is just

710
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:23,920
vastly superior you know what's funny you know what's funny is they were

711
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:28,480
closing in on the ncix tech tips channel in terms of subscribers like they were

712
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:34,240
they got really close and then all of a sudden a completely untrained group of

713
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,400
people came into the nci ex tech tips

714
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:41,839
of whom there are about a third as many as the newegg tv team and then with me

715
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,640
coming in like five hours a week they took off again

716
00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:49,920
and now they're growing way faster than new egg tv again so you know if we oh

717
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,200
that's the new paul eat it kyle eat it

718
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,800
joanne you're not there anymore but you can eat it too steve was steve can eat

719
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,720
it what i mean steve can eat something pleasant

720
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:05,040
like cake yeah there we go but he can still eat it actually paul's really nice

721
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:08,960
too but still still eat it eat it uh most companies second second-hand

722
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:12,480
phones to emerging countries and send yeah yeah that's that's i actually had

723
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:17,200
no idea that's pretty cool yeah i'm aware of that but it's usually like

724
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:21,280
super old crappy stuff like what i would like to see is a program more like hey

725
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:26,960
here's the last gen one that's like i'm saying like threes yeah stuff like that or whatever

726
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:32,240
it seems i've been banned from talking about 12 hertz master race yeah that sounds about right

727
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:36,880
um sasktel will give you 250 for anything including their tv internet and

728
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:40,160
phone but that's got to be like if you sign up for a new one that's not helping

729
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:43,200
the recycling thing again this transitions well into one of our topics

730
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:47,280
we're actually going to be talking about google class as bond cost being 80 so

731
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,839
why don't we why don't we move on to our next topic for now

732
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:55,280
what do we have well next is the heartbleed criminal

733
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:59,839
data thing and then something something something i'm so

734
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:04,880
excited about harrison ford and mark hamill and carrie fisher

735
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:08,480
and like ah everyone's gonna be in the new movie i just hope they don't screwed

736
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:11,440
up you know

737
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:16,160
with all the stuff see this is why it scares me with everything that i've seen

738
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,440
so far it looks awesome with everything

739
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,680
that i had seen at a certain point in time with elder

740
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:26,240
scrolls online it looks awesome and now i won't touch it or even be within a

741
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:29,280
vicinity of it because it's disgusting in my personal opinion if you like it

742
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:34,160
i'm sorry but i don't like it okay well okay just let's all just back

743
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:36,720
up first there's a high possibility of things screwing up kingdom of the

744
00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:40,800
crystal skull poopy you know i think it could have been good

745
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:44,640
but george lucas was involved

746
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,720
and therefore yeah um now

747
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,720
the whole throwing out the expanded universe thing i i have mixed feelings

748
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,079
on because there was a lot of stuff from the expanded universe that was quite

749
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:59,920
frankly a hundred times better than anything

750
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:06,000
in that was canon really good a lot of it was fantastic i i do see that even

751
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:09,680
though they've thrown it out they it's not like they haven't left in the

752
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,680
possibility to adopt parts of it

753
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:18,960
which i think is great but to me it's a little bit frustrating

754
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,079
that they that they basically went okay no the whole thing is scrapped and they

755
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:28,559
kind of just they all that's all they've told us when there is so much lore that is so

756
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:33,359
plausible and so good and really doesn't need to be reimagined

757
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:37,040
that they could have just left alone but right now i think what is it clone

758
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:42,319
wars tv show which i i saw a little bit of once and

759
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:46,319
holy cow was it ever terrible i never watched it clone wars animated

760
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:50,800
series prequels and then the three original movies means that of the body

761
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:54,720
of work that is now considered canon most of it isn't very good

762
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,559
yeah that's why i'm scared which is a real shame but like they do they are

763
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:04,559
lining up the right things like you said they have the actors back and so as far

764
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,559
as i've heard so far um ford is like the

765
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:10,720
main focus is he not i don't know han solo i'm not sure as

766
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:15,760
far as i've heard he's the main focus of the movie which actually could be kind

767
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:19,599
of good i don't i don't know i mean okay i uh

768
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:25,520
maybe and maybe this is me being kind of crazy but i would actually like for

769
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:27,280
episode seven to be the last time we see

770
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:31,280
mark hamill carrie fisher harrison yeah but it could be a really good transition

771
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:36,160
like they could introduce new characters with it or do something i mean

772
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:39,200
one possibility and i'd love it if this is what they're doing i don't i don't

773
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,280
know what they're doing i mean what i would love to see because they are they

774
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:47,839
have a system like they have a team of people that are dedicated to curating

775
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:53,200
content and making it deciding what's canon and what's not what i would love

776
00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:54,160
to see them do is actually skip a bunch

777
00:53:53,200 --> 00:54:00,880
again because if you look at the original at the original first movie you have to do

778
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:03,760
yeah but but like skip skip a lot oh oh

779
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:08,640
yeah so actually create an intermediary story that could easily be filled in by

780
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:12,480
having the original people do voice acting for example for digital

781
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:16,319
representations of themselves so through video games or or through animated

782
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:21,680
series series because even if their voice is gonna sound a little bit older it'll be

783
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:27,280
easier to portray that on a younger character and that would be believable and you can do a whole lot with

784
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:29,599
editing with editing and so so i mean that's what i would like to see them do

785
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:36,079
because you look at even the original three movies there's a there's a pretty significant chunk of time

786
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:42,640
between even those movies it's like the rebellion goes from existing on like

787
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,880
yavin 4 like that's the entire rebel

788
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,760
alliance to like all of a sudden now they've got a fleet and then like all of

789
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:50,839
a sudden well now they have like a badass fleet and like salmon piloting

790
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:57,920
their ships and they can win a major battle yeah so

791
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:01,359
there's a lot of room here for a lot of the expanded universe stuff to still

792
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,200
work if they skip forward enough

793
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:09,680
if you see what i mean yeah no i actually definitely agree with that i like that idea they've already done it

794
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,280
once so like i don't think anyone's gonna protest too much

795
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:17,920
so that's what i want but i i don't know i don't know i just i

796
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:23,839
i don't want to get my hopes up too much because exactly i i used to be

797
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:28,000
a pretty hardcore star wars buff like knew everything i think compared to the

798
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:32,480
vast majority of people you still would be so

799
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:38,160
i just i really want it to be good i loved what abrams did with star trek yep

800
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:41,920
really liked it for sure but i was never a huge star trek guy i was never a

801
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:47,119
trekkie i think we were both on the star wars bandwagon more than this so the

802
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:49,520
potential here for me to be disappointed is it's like phantom menace all over

803
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,839
again potentially i really don't think abrams could make a movie that i don't think so

804
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,000
which is like that helps a lot and the actors coming in helps a lot and

805
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:04,400
everything that i've gotten so far helps a lot i'm just still trying to disengage

806
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:09,520
as much as i can i mean okay okay the one part of me is like who's in florida

807
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,200
but then one part of me too is like the fact that they brought in all of them

808
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,040
were either gonna end up with this weird like fan service thing where they bring

809
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,720
them in just to give them like a little bit of screen time or we're gonna end up

810
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:25,839
with this thing where they give them way too much screen time and it just doesn't make any sense because they're all

811
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:30,559
decrepit now i wouldn't mind just like closures on certain parts like like fan

812
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:34,640
service but like closure that makes sense or

813
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:38,720
flashback style stuff what if like movie number one opening scene

814
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,319
they kill luke skywalker how do you feel about that what if mark

815
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:48,559
hamill comes back in for just long enough to say there is another sky walk

816
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:50,480
up and dies like if they do it in a way

817
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:54,079
that makes sense i would be okay with it because i mean i think there's a lot of

818
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:58,480
potential for us to see an obi-wan kenobi type role for him yeah where

819
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,880
maybe okay maybe they don't kill them in the opening scene but i think there's a lot of potential for i definitely i

820
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:07,280
don't mind uh especially when it's been this long

821
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:13,480
like because okay i have to draw this in sorry everyone but firefly people have

822
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:13,480
talked about

823
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:19,839
that was awkward yeah people have talked about um firefly sequels and what could

824
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:23,839
possibly happen if they brought into season two and all kinds of stuff in the past so i've seen some of this

825
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:28,480
theorizing and you kind of need to either kill people

826
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:33,680
yeah or move them off to the side in some way yeah or get rid of them or just

827
00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:36,160
put them in weird auxiliary auxiliary roles or something like that maybe keep

828
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,599
one or two but you can't necessarily keep the whole group because people will have grown up and changed and their

829
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,760
acting styles can change how how their mannerisms work can change and it won't

830
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:51,040
feel the same so but if they moved him into like you had just said um

831
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:53,680
a obi-wan kenobi type role i actually think that could work really well

832
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:58,000
someone just said they can't kill luke because he exists in a lot of the expanded universe stuff and not all of

833
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,960
it was scrapped except if they skipped forward far enough to his death then

834
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:06,319
there's plenty of time to fill in the intermediary stuff which is what he was saying before which is exactly what i

835
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:10,799
was talking about yeah um anyway so moving on to our next actual topic

836
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:14,880
because i don't know how we ended up talking about that i actually was going

837
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:18,640
to ask you how we got there i i don't remember no clue dylan's delons will

838
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,720
know shout out to delons we never do that he

839
00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:26,480
actually does the timetable that goes in the archive on youtube shout out to

840
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:29,760
ghost because the doc yeah because helping us work on the doc we actually

841
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:34,400
have some pretty cool community helpers helping us with the show it helps with the land show a lot lately pretty

842
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:39,040
fantastic people overall all right so let's talk about this article on bbc

843
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:43,280
heartbleed used to uncover data from cyber criminals

844
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:46,319
are you a crime middle are you a criminal

845
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,599
i'm not a criminal you don't get the reference it's okay i

846
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:54,799
only hate you a little bit for not getting it is that all right spaceballs go ahead

847
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:58,880
i'm not sure um so heartbleed has apparently been used to track down black

848
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,400
hat hackers black hat hackers are like the ones that are maliciously trying to

849
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,400
hurt people like steal credit card data and all that kind of stuff gray hat is

850
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:11,119
when they kind of float on both sides and white hat is when people are trying

851
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:13,760
to hack but for the greater good um so

852
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:19,839
they've been using this to access closed forums such as dark ode and damage lab

853
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:24,640
and according to wired smart devices such as home routers cctv cameras baby

854
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:29,839
monitors and home management gadgets were now known to be vulnerable

855
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:35,040
i always feel such awkwardly on the fence with this kind of stuff because

856
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,640
it's like i don't want you guys to use this to track people

857
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:45,040
but then you stopped bad people potentially but that's the whole argument

858
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:49,359
that's how the nsa starts monitoring us yeah

859
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:52,240
bad people i wouldn't be surprised is why this article even came out in the

860
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:58,000
first place because they're like no we're not terrible so just

861
00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:00,559
remember that when listening to this article or if you read it later or

862
00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:04,400
anything like well no this was anti-malware researchers after hartley

863
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:10,559
was exposed i think yes yeah so i don't know so they were

864
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,559
using it to track people

865
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:19,680
i don't know i could make terrible analogies i'm not going to bother of any things that exist that you could use in

866
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:22,640
bad ways and that doesn't mean that government entities should be able to go

867
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:27,599
around the law to be able to use them and all kind of stuff

868
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:31,440
and also cyber law is really confusing and weird anyways and a lot of it

869
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,880
doesn't even exist can you break the law to stop lawbreakers

870
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:38,160
it's i mean it's you can turn this into a whole long

871
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,839
conversation about capital punishment yeah can you murder someone to stop

872
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:46,240
murdering this is a really big topic right now isn't it yeah it's a huge deal because

873
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:49,440
of the lethal injection like yeah and then they screw what's

874
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,520
going on right now so the supplier of what they were using

875
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:58,640
for lethal injections and this is all paraphrasing my wife's been following it really closely because she's a

876
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:02,000
pharmacist so the the drug aspect of all this is fascinating to her because

877
01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:06,240
pharmacists anyway those things are interesting i

878
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:10,799
guess uh so so the drug supplier that was supplying the the drugs for lethal

879
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:14,640
injections was getting threatened to the point where they were like okay look

880
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,640
we're not going to supply it anymore so they had to source alternate drugs from

881
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:22,240
alternate sources that they were keeping secret and then basically what was

882
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,599
happening was you were supposed to do one drug and then another one and then

883
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:30,400
there was a collapsed vein somewhere in the mix and the first drug is supposed

884
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:30,400
to make the patient

885
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:36,319
victim um

886
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:36,319
prisoner

887
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:44,880
uh anyway the person the cute the sure executed thank you um cutie

888
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:50,079
it doesn't really work you can't spell execute e without cutie um so so

889
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:54,319
supposed to make them unconscious and then the subsequent injection or

890
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:58,960
injections were supposed to do the deed so to speak but there have been cases

891
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:02,319
where they appear to be trying to get out of the chair

892
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:06,559
which would imply that the pain that they're undergoing is also accompanied

893
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,680
by some level of consciousness so

894
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:13,520
i actually don't understand how we got on this topic again anyway that's like a

895
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:17,920
huge deal right now people were also wondering if it was intentional i really

896
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:22,319
don't know the details of the story very well this was not a planned discussion

897
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:25,839
so sorry if i'm wrong but apparently he took a very long prolonged time to kill

898
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,680
someone so like watched them suffer so people

899
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:34,720
were like well maybe someone set it up so that he was suffering

900
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:38,720
which like i don't know it all starts to sound like

901
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,680
a movie plot it does which is part of the problem which isn't to say that that

902
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:46,960
movie won't be based on a true story of what's happening right now yeah

903
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,200
again i i don't i just like i might have heard this on the radio i don't even

904
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:53,200
remember where i got it from this was not a planned topic sorry if i'm wrong i could definitely be wrong don't take

905
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,760
that as um that's about as disclaimed as

906
01:02:55,359 --> 01:03:01,760
anything has ever been ever yeah exactly yeah so huge thanks to rainfall within

907
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:06,000
for posting the heartbleed cybercriminal thing on the forum that's what we were

908
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:10,720
talking about um apple iwatch production has allegedly begun and this was posted

909
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:14,880
by alex goes high thank you very much for that original article is from next

910
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:20,000
powerup so we're gonna go ahead and head over there this is a concept by the way

911
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:22,640
this is not actually what it's going to look like

912
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:28,079
fortunately because i don't wouldn't buy that so the china times has reported

913
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:32,079
that apple has gone into production so the rumor is that during the first

914
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:38,319
quarter of product availability there's going to be anywhere from two and a half to three and a half million units of

915
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:44,960
iwatch so that's in q2 and in the second quarter production is rumored to be

916
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:48,559
going to leap to 14 to 15 million units

917
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,960
i plan to buy one i plan to try it

918
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:54,559
and i will see what i think about it is there is there plans for like a

919
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:58,720
blackberry watch and a Windows watch i i know microsoft microsoft has

920
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:02,480
acknowledged the wearable market i don't know that there's an actual plan okay or

921
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,319
anything i think something interesting that we could do is a whole ecosystem

922
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:09,200
comparison video right get our hands on a Windows phone actually nokia has

923
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:14,240
offered to send us a Windows phone to try out i actually need to get back to them um because i would definitely do

924
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:18,000
that if you are ingrained in an ecosystem so you have their watch you

925
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:21,920
have their phone you have their os how well does it all work together how not

926
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:24,400
necessarily comparing like the os because we know a lot of people

927
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:30,160
including myself and a lot of the viewers aren't going to like um os 10

928
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:33,680
but like comparing how well they sync together and all that stuff like if

929
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:38,160
there's if there's ihome or whatever like getting that kind of stuff too i think that could be pretty interesting

930
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:41,200
speaking of uh how well things within the same ecosystem work together i think

931
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:47,119
i'll use this as an opportunity to give my thoughts on the galaxy s5 so samsung

932
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:47,920
sent me a galaxy s5 as well as a gear

933
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:52,400
fit i didn't have long enough with them i only had them for about a week so i

934
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,680
didn't have long enough with them to do a full review but what i told samsung is

935
01:04:54,799 --> 01:04:59,760
uh um okay sure send it to me for a week

936
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:04,559
i'm not gonna do a review but i'll talk about it on my show so um i'm just this

937
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:08,640
is just my here just to give you guys oh sorry just to give you guys some idea

938
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:12,400
this is what my notes look like before i turn it into a script that

939
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:16,000
makes any kind of sense they're not in any particular order these are just

940
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:20,640
notes that i make to myself as i observe them so i apologize if this is a little

941
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:24,880
bit disjointed um i was impressed that even though the plastickiness of the

942
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:28,640
galaxy series is still very much there the actual flex to the phone is much

943
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:32,319
less than the previous generation s4 and i don't think samsung got enough credit

944
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:37,520
for that they managed to make the phone a lot more rigid without actually making

945
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:41,440
it you know out of a solid piece of metal the same way that other premium

946
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,880
phone makers do which isn't to say that i necessarily think that justifies

947
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:49,920
making all your phones out of plastic but whatever um i hate the positioning

948
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,039
of the lock button directly opposed to volume

949
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:58,559
it just seems like nobody can get this right nobody can find two spots on a

950
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:03,039
phone to put volume and lock where you don't have to press all of them apple

951
01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:07,119
gets it more right than most g2 yes apple gets it more right than most

952
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:10,079
because their buttons are stiff enough that you won't accidentally press them

953
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:14,880
when you're trying to press one or the other but on the galaxy s5 i was

954
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:18,400
constantly accidentally mashing the volume when i was trying to lock or

955
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:22,160
unlock the phone an issue i don't have nearly as much with the one because you

956
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:25,280
can wake it up by tapping on the screen another thing that the g2 which you

957
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:29,599
don't have anymore does really well back to the going back

958
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:34,720
to a hardware home button really felt like a step backwards um when i did my

959
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:39,760
1m8 review i talked about how i felt like it was a mixed bag

960
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:42,240
but i had never tried to go from my 1m7

961
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:47,599
to my 1m8 and then back to the 1m7 with its hardware buttons and what i realized

962
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:52,400
is that going back after having used the 1m8 for so long

963
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:55,119
really felt like a last generation implementation i've gotten used to them

964
01:06:54,240 --> 01:07:00,000
now the extra width is more noticeable

965
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:03,280
than you would think due to the thicker edges so that's the width of the phone

966
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:08,559
physically itself i couldn't figure out what i was talking about until the end there um so

967
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:12,559
even though the htc one m8 is quite long in order to accommodate those boom sound

968
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:16,480
speakers i i really like the speakers i'm willing to make that trade-off and

969
01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:21,039
on the s5 that width really made it challenging for me to use it because of

970
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:23,119
my small hands but um

971
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:27,119
the shape and all that basically it was not it was not easy for me to handle

972
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:31,520
compared to the one i made um with that said everyone's making fun of the

973
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:35,200
backing material on the s5 i like it it reminds me of the first gen nexus 7 and

974
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:41,039
i think it's great that's that grippiness is probably the one thing that made the phone somewhat manageable

975
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:46,400
for me because i really didn't find the shape that easy for me to hold the one

976
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:48,160
m8 by contrast especially the

977
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:52,079
titanium version the one that i have is quite slippery

978
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:56,960
another contrast between the one i made and the galaxy s5 is the crummy speaker

979
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:01,760
positioning it is so noticeable coming from a device with

980
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:05,119
front-facing speakers going to something like the iphone 5 with them bottom

981
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:10,640
mounted speakers or something like the galaxy s5 with that horrendous

982
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:14,240
rear-mounted speaker implementation that was one thing that i wanted to bring up

983
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:18,400
actually is you you scalded it slightly for the hardware home button yes do you

984
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:23,520
feel the same way about that one no the thing that i don't like about the i

985
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:27,040
because this button has other functionality even if it's just a

986
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:31,359
fingerprint reader okay and having the you know okay so

987
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,960
it's not the home button i guess that bothered me it was the multitasking and

988
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:38,960
the back because i like the way that things shift

989
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:42,319
around contextually when i rotate the phone whereas with this it's just one

990
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:46,159
button it's just always one button whereas if it's things that can actually

991
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:50,000
change a little bit and can indicate oh hey right now you're going to be lowering your keyboard versus right now

992
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,640
you're going to be going back within your program i like that and i've gotten

993
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:59,359
used to that right um anyway rear mounted speakers are

994
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:01,440
terrible they need to go away um

995
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:05,199
prompting about default oh oh this is good i originally had this down as a

996
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:10,480
really positive point about the phone because i had to look up not that long

997
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:12,080
ago how to unbind default applications

998
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:15,679
for actions within Android because it's pretty hidden samsung

999
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:19,600
this the when you actually bind something by default says hey here's how

1000
01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:24,080
you undo it and the only issue is it comes up every time

1001
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:27,920
and i was like really like there's no go away there's probably a way to disable

1002
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:32,159
the notification somewhere within the touchwiz settings but i was just i was

1003
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:35,759
amazed because or something yeah but it came up every time um i don't mind

1004
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:40,880
samsung's keyboard but like so many things in touch with i really feel like it takes up too much of the precious

1005
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:44,640
screen real estate uh gesture based smartwatch waking is still terrible i

1006
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:48,640
guess i'm shifting gears to the gear fit now so i the whole time i was using the

1007
01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:52,880
s5 i switched from my pebble to the gear fit and there are some things about it

1008
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:57,440
that i like the screen is beautiful i think the industrial design is a lot

1009
01:09:54,719 --> 01:10:02,400
better than the pebble but gesture base waking is terrible and if you're gonna

1010
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:06,640
have gesture-based waking make it a flick like pebble to turn on the

1011
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:10,000
backlight don't make it this contrived thing

1012
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:13,600
samsung had every opportunity to just make it so i can flick it or tap it in

1013
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:18,159
order to see what's on the screen and they didn't do it it's just asinine and

1014
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:21,120
the battery life on it is good enough that they should at least give you the

1015
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,880
option because it lasted a good five or six days in the default scheme where the

1016
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:28,719
screen was barely ever on and if it was on more often when i'm just waving

1017
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:33,120
around and i only got two or three days out of it i could probably live with

1018
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:36,480
that a lot more than i could you know having the screen on all the time and

1019
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:43,440
having it get having only getting like one day out of it

1020
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:47,520
um i understand the htc chin bar now

1021
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:50,320
the back button on the s5 is so low that

1022
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:54,560
it's actually uncomfortable to reach so having that chin bar on the one is a

1023
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:59,120
more natural position for the hand versus trying to force your thumb and

1024
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:03,040
contort it down here so as much as the chin bar was something i complained

1025
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:07,520
about in my one m8 review a couple of things so number one is i get it now and

1026
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:10,880
number two is when i complained about the unevenness of the keyboard in

1027
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:14,400
landscape mode someone pointed out hey Linus if you just went this way then

1028
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:17,920
you'd have your software contextual buttons moved to here and the chin bar

1029
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,840
here and it would actually be centered again so

1030
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:25,679
good design on the one i realize i'm bringing up a lot of good things about

1031
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:31,679
the one m8 in my s5 impressions that's five review the one m8 love story

1032
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:35,360
um i figured out what i don't like about touchwiz because it's really not that

1033
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,920
slow anymore oh yeah so this was the note that goes along with that

1034
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:42,800
information density thing information density is so low the stock messaging

1035
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:48,400
app makes me crazy in spite of the larger screen and no on-screen buttons

1036
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:51,679
there are actually fewer texts on screen compared to sense ui

1037
01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:56,640
why and i mean you look at the way that they've talked about some of the things

1038
01:11:55,040 --> 01:12:00,719
that they do how it's like old people optimized maybe that's what it is maybe

1039
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,920
that's why i don't like it i like really high information density on my screen i

1040
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,640
like to use the real estate because i can see just fine and i can i can press

1041
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:12,480
things accurately but maybe touchwiz just isn't made for me if you if you're

1042
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:18,320
on your samsung phone can you go to google default keyboard instead of the samsung keyboard yeah yeah yeah but that

1043
01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:22,400
doesn't change the fact that your text app just everything takes up too much space

1044
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:26,560
yeah and and you can get a different text app too of course but why load it

1045
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,920
with these things it's in my well not for this one but it's in my default

1046
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:34,480
download programs for another one a custom text app so um text size scaling

1047
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:38,400
doesn't even help much because in things like the settings menu um ui elements

1048
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:44,400
are still huge they don't resize only the labels do right right uh i love the idea of the

1049
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:48,480
gear fit i hate the gesture thing blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the strap

1050
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:52,159
on the gear fit is janky it's not that easy to put on it's actually did i show

1051
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,760
it to you it's just two little nubbins that go into the other side there's no

1052
01:12:53,920 --> 01:13:00,560
actual like like just go with the tried and true on

1053
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:03,280
that one like why i like i understood with the original galaxy gear they

1054
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:07,120
wanted to put like a camera and a microphone and it's like okay i don't agree with you but i understand what

1055
01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:10,960
you're doing with the gear fit just put a watch strap

1056
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:15,040
on it don't reinvent the wheel this is

1057
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:18,480
literally like like that is the most perfect use of don't reinvent the wheel

1058
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:22,239
that i have ever managed to come up with

1059
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:27,520
you're in reinventing something that's been around for hundreds of years and is

1060
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:29,440
tried and true it attaches here and here

1061
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:33,360
and clasps here that is all

1062
01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:36,960
um oh yeah and the the uh the vertical

1063
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:43,360
design of the of the gear fit is terrible because most of the schemes for

1064
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:45,440
it are right side up like this

1065
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:49,600
there's two watch faces for it that are right side up like this and once again

1066
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:54,560
information density they don't take advantage of all that screen real estate

1067
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:59,199
what i would like to see is time here weather here the date here and like use

1068
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:03,360
up all that space instead it just puts like massive tall numbers like this i'm

1069
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:07,440
just like so you're gonna have to you're gonna have to do your like huh

1070
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,350
yeah it's gonna be like a like a martial arts

1071
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,840
like training

1072
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:18,000
club secretly

1073
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:21,920
secretly the koreans are building an army

1074
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,880
oh my goodness um that'd be epic don't

1075
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:30,320
do the nod thing the setup process for the gear is great when you pair it the

1076
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:34,400
app just installs automatic jiggly automagically i think that's fantastic

1077
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:38,560
there's no share to youtube by default in the gallery on the s5 what which for

1078
01:14:36,719 --> 01:14:44,000
a youtuber like me is just infuriating and you know what within the youtube app

1079
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:47,199
on iOS you can't just upload you can only upload to youtube from the gallery

1080
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:53,280
so i'm just like how are these things so broken so that'll be something from my iphone

1081
01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:58,320
5s review right i think that is pretty much it that

1082
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:01,840
those are my thoughts on the galaxy s5 i really don't think the build quality is

1083
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:07,840
as bad as people are making it out to be it's just that the industry has moved on

1084
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:10,480
and samsung's small improvement is not

1085
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:15,440
enough when you compare it to sony's latest phones htc's latest phones and

1086
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:19,120
anything apple's made in the last since the iphone 4 i guess so in like the last

1087
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:24,640
four or five years right all right speaking of phones this is so

1088
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,080
fantastic i love it oh yeah yeah this is

1089
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:29,520
really cool you gotta go back up when you're done this one okay but yeah i

1090
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:33,840
don't even think i care that much about that bluetooth ring i just want to talk about uh

1091
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:37,120
the the creation that ghost and i came up with which we both think is vastly

1092
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:42,080
superior sure um okay so this is the pie phone it was

1093
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:45,040
created by a software engineer really cool

1094
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:48,640
so cool so it's made out of a raspberry pi here do you want to walk because i

1095
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:52,800
got this playing for them sure uh so it's made of a raspberry pi a

1096
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:59,840
touchscreen which he gives the name of inside the video a 2

1097
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:02,080
500 milliamp hour lipo battery uh gsm

1098
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:07,360
gprs module and the total cost is around 158 dollars that being said

1099
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:12,080
he just like got it working yeah these are zip ties yeah like like

1100
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:16,480
yeah like literally it's zip tied together i think this is

1101
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:20,640
more of a like look this works you can do this not necessarily this is the best

1102
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:23,679
possible situation there's also some issues one of the reasons why it's not

1103
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:27,920
in a case is because without heat sinks on it the thing gets really hot and if

1104
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:32,320
it was actually in an enclosed case you might have problems with it so

1105
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,679
like it's not there yet right now it only supports calling so he shows here

1106
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:41,840
he actually does call someone unfortunately the number shows on screen and now it's blowing up but i love

1107
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:46,320
engineers because check this out he built a cell phone

1108
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,520
and then it's presumably his wife in the background

1109
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:53,280
and he's uh calling the he so he calls himself he calls his own landline check

1110
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,280
this out

1111
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:02,560
hold on a second what's my number again

1112
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:04,640
engineers man engineers man

1113
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:07,760
that's funny whatever man i love engineering it's really cool i had to

1114
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,960
show taran this immediately scratch builds cell phone can't remember phone

1115
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:15,440
number whoever you are what's what's the what's

1116
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:20,400
the guy dude hunt david hunt you are so awesome like you are so awesome i love

1117
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:23,520
people that are just that into what they do yeah that what they do is more

1118
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:27,840
important than their own phone number yes like you are cool and it's actually pretty

1119
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:32,159
awesome i thought this was super cool i hope it goes further because we need to

1120
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:34,640
get away from the ultra attractness of everything right now because it's kind

1121
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:38,880
of horrible and yeah that's about it for that one an

1122
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:42,800
actually open source os yes unlike what Android has turned into yeah seriously

1123
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:48,400
but then it's just a matter of time until someone turns it into not open source again so whatever uh

1124
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:52,480
where are we moving on to okay so the the nod the nod

1125
01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:58,080
so this was posted by topwar gamer originally on the forum and this is a

1126
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:01,600
bluetooth ring um should we should we just show the video of this because we

1127
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:06,719
can demonstrates it pretty well we can show all the that probably doesn't work

1128
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:06,719
that wayness of the video

1129
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,560
my biggest problem with this is actually that it's based around bluetooth oh

1130
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:17,199
shoot i'm not screenshot because bluetooth is just like the biggest thing that doesn't work very

1131
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:22,880
well in my opinion there's there's so many problems with it pairs but they decide

1132
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:26,560
not to talk to each other or it won't pair or something else is paired to it i

1133
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,120
know but it's still kind of rough it's gotten a lot better it's still kind of

1134
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:35,600
rough i don't know you like it roughly i don't think you can switch in between devices

1135
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:39,920
easily enough for a ring to be what i'm going to want to use and

1136
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:45,360
i i don't i don't i wouldn't how much is it 150 bucks 150 yeah 140 yeah 150 bucks

1137
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,040
i don't think i would pay 150 for something that looks very elegant

1138
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:53,600
because of how well photographed it is here but it's actually

1139
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:56,960
super chunky yeah like this is a finger that's not even a

1140
01:18:55,679 --> 01:19:01,440
skinny finger this is a third the width of a finger

1141
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:05,840
like sticking out of the inside of your hand it's really big it's it's

1142
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:10,159
they show a guy in the video like playing halo i'm like no man

1143
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,440
here's the video we'll just we'll let you guys it's really short so do you

1144
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:17,120
want to talk about what your concept is while they check out the video okay so

1145
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:21,440
not just mine definitely ghost is in this as well i we we started arguing

1146
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:25,199
about the merits of this ring and we ended up coming up with the thing that

1147
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:29,520
we would rather it was right so this actually totally worked out so we would

1148
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:33,920
get rid of almost everything in this ring we would leave it with just the

1149
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:39,120
swiped texting kind of idea yeah but remove the actual ability to

1150
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:43,760
like do that on a tv it now only pairs with your smartwatch yeah when a text

1151
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:46,480
opens up you can read it and then

1152
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:50,719
come up with different shapes like you could bind shapes to different words or

1153
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:54,560
you could go with a keyboard mapping so like yes on a keyboard is probably not

1154
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:59,440
going to be any other word if you're one word texting so if you went like this

1155
01:19:57,199 --> 01:20:02,640
it types here right now okay so if you waved your hand in a shape if you wave

1156
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:06,800
your hand in a shape that correlates with either a keyboard design you could you could set it up however you want a

1157
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:10,719
keyboard design or maybe you bound it to a circle so yes is a circle

1158
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:14,159
so you get a message on your smart watch and you just go whoop

1159
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:17,120
and you can reply that way i don't like your idea i think the

1160
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,880
functionality is too limited if it was like 20 bucks no that's that's why oh so

1161
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:26,960
you want it to be cheap that's why we're moving everything because it's supposed to be dirt cheap

1162
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:31,520
and nice and much much much smaller hopefully embeddable in an actual ring

1163
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:35,360
right i think we're a few generations of technology away from a smart ring that

1164
01:20:33,679 --> 01:20:39,840
actually makes an ounce of sense yes this one isn't it to me i might order

1165
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:45,920
one just to try it so that i can tell you guys how stupid it is um i like the

1166
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:48,480
idea just like that huge like wrist like

1167
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:52,159
uh wrist communicator size smartwatch the neptune pine uh yeah it'll come at

1168
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:56,239
some point i i ordered it they're they're still progressing so sure why

1169
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:59,679
not uh in the thread where this was posted by topwar gamer he he said that i

1170
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:05,360
would be super interested because i'm interested in interacting with things in different ways and he was totally right

1171
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:08,159
and i do find this interesting i just do not think this is the one i mean in

1172
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,760
theory it allows a bunch of different stuff it can be a universal controller

1173
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:14,880
allowing effortless communication with all of your smart devices and your

1174
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:18,400
connected life including phones tablets google glass watches home appliances tvs

1175
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:21,840
computers and more you can use it as a media controller you can use it for

1176
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:25,760
selfies to answer calls so you could like use it as like a remote you know

1177
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:28,880
camera shutter for example you can the flat surface of the ring so

1178
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:33,199
it's meant to be worn on the inside the way that they're wearing it which would just make it uncomfortable to work your

1179
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:37,280
fist the worst possible um so the flat surface of the ring is meant to be um if

1180
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:40,080
it has a tiny capacitive touch panel with two programmable buttons on either

1181
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:44,719
side and then you can type in the air similar to swipe and the battery lasts

1182
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,719
for a day

1183
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:51,120
yeah i'm not really interested in this one but like imagine you took almost all

1184
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:54,480
those features out and just made it made it work with your smart watch in some

1185
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:59,440
sort of way that's the only thing it has to pair with do because i'm not really going to want to use this for much else

1186
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:02,239
anyways right um that's the only thing it has to pair to so you're not going to

1187
01:22:00,639 --> 01:22:05,679
screw around with bluetooth that much when bluetooth is only trying to do one

1188
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:10,639
thing like if you're not repeatedly trying to pair it with a billion different things throughout your day

1189
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:13,679
it's actually usually pretty okay so if you pair the ring and the

1190
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,880
smartwatch and just leave it it's probably fine and then if you came up

1191
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:21,520
with stuff like gesture controls for doing certain things i think that could be cool because smart watches are really

1192
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,679
interesting and i would like to be able to interact with them more but when

1193
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:28,719
we're seeing stuff like the google what is it called

1194
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:34,000
is it google watch i don't remember but it's essentially google now but it's the watch level

1195
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:38,960
oh yeah i remember reading about that yeah um that kind of stuff is a lot of voice

1196
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:43,120
controlled interaction which like if you're in a meeting yep

1197
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:48,159
you don't want to talk to your watch yeah text message mom yes that's fine

1198
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:53,199
when you could just be like oh it's up spin done right i mean i think really

1199
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:57,120
for me if it's super cheap the the the holy grail is going to be

1200
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,760
some kind of eye tracking technology that i can use to control things

1201
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:04,480
so you know some a google glass type device

1202
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:09,760
that is way better and way cheaper oh yeah um that i can use to

1203
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:13,040
just kind of like do stuff quietly while people aren't paying attention

1204
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:16,960
yeah speaking of google okay hold on we got oh it's gonna have to be way better

1205
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:20,880
again two more topics that we really need to get to the teardown so one

1206
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:23,760
posted originally by nice hat i want to do this one first because i have a poll

1207
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:28,320
question that i wanted oh yeah can we create a poll in the meantime sure um so

1208
01:23:25,679 --> 01:23:35,040
businessweek.com has an article about china's plan to

1209
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:36,320
build a massive gaming

1210
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:40,560
like um they're calling it like a park but they

1211
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:45,920
mean park like industrial park as far as i can tell like not like with slides so

1212
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:52,000
the idea is that the centerpiece is going to be a massive gaming stadium

1213
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:56,400
for things like live tournaments and then around it they want to attract oops

1214
01:23:54,239 --> 01:24:00,960
i haven't actually shown around it they want to attract

1215
01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:05,360
game companies to set up their their offices there and turn this into

1216
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:08,560
like a like a video gaming sort of hub

1217
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:13,360
um fascinating

1218
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:17,120
my my my only problem with this is like a lot of my i have a lot of friends that

1219
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,639
watch esports like my main core group of friends pretty much everybody watches

1220
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:25,280
esports at some level right maybe not that much but they do watch it and the

1221
01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:28,400
main common theme i find is it's nice that you can watch it on a tablet or

1222
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:32,400
your computer and while i think a lot of our group

1223
01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:35,679
would go out to these events to see these things i don't actually see a

1224
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:41,920
crazy amount of people doing it and one thing is that i know that when i was in korea

1225
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:43,520
i went to the starcraft finals it was

1226
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:47,920
being streamed in two places the arena that it was in and uh gum tv which is

1227
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:51,760
another one when i was at gome tv there was four people there

1228
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:55,600
and they had live casters two of the most famous casters in the world live

1229
01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:00,239
casting it there's four people there right um okay where the actual tournament

1230
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:03,440
actually was with the players so you're gonna expect to see a lot more people

1231
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:08,560
there that make sense there was a lot more people but until the actual final

1232
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:13,280
round there was a few empty chairs and the there was none of the standing

1233
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:18,480
room was taken up the final round boom full and then everyone disappeared

1234
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:25,120
so basically you're saying that live attendees for esports events are like

1235
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,120
vancouver canucks fans

1236
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:31,840
i see that correlation and like the thing is i'm sure i'm sure it will be

1237
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:36,800
attended i just and like there's been league of legends ones where they're

1238
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:39,199
freaking huge right my only thing is i

1239
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:43,360
mean they filled the staples center yeah with a tournament at that point so i

1240
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:47,360
just they need to make it more um how do i even say it i think one of

1241
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:51,760
the problems with the one korean one is it wasn't very accessible so they need to make this very accessible so they're

1242
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:55,040
going to have a heart so your your issue is they're going to have a hard time

1243
01:25:53,280 --> 01:26:00,560
keeping the seats full often enough to justify a facility that for the big game

1244
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:04,960
yeah this phase alone is going to be costing i think it was 480 million big

1245
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:10,239
games and big tournaments and stuff i totally see them filling it

1246
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:12,400
yeah so so uh 480 million just for the

1247
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:18,400
arena and the first phase um and then 2.8 billion total

1248
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:22,639
and if you can only fill it up with you know 15 000 fans like

1249
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:26,719
you know but then again 15 000 is honestly not

1250
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,600
that high of a number yeah so they might be able to fill this thing up all the

1251
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:33,520
time because that's not that high of a number

1252
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:38,719
i just don't know i'm talking about like big crazy stable center level

1253
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:43,520
uh stadiums i don't know if you can fill that up on like a weekly basis okay so

1254
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:48,000
if it's part of a wider gaming themed park like facility would you consider

1255
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:51,920
traveling there for like a trip as a tourist attraction

1256
01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:54,960
china scares me a little bit well okay if let's say it wasn't in

1257
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:58,880
china would you consider traveling to something like that i went to korea to

1258
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:03,199
see this starcraft okay so there you go honestly i this it it works for me i

1259
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:08,400
would want to go see this i would go there every once in like if it was local

1260
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,280
i'd love to go see games i just i worry

1261
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:14,560
about so i want to hear from you guys is this

1262
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:17,199
another crazy building project in china

1263
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:20,159
where there's going to be entire ghost well they've already got ghost

1264
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:25,840
cities over in china entire cities of basically

1265
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:29,840
unpopulated buildings because they built all this stuff assuming that the money

1266
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:34,159
and the people were coming and then they they just kind of didn't is this going

1267
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:38,400
to be another one of those projects or is this a stroke of genius and it's

1268
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:42,880
amazing no one did it sooner and is this going to turn into an esports mecca

1269
01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:47,679
personally i think this post yeah okay personally i think this one will work

1270
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:51,920
will it become a mecca yes or no um will it will it be will it be a success

1271
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,600
okay there uh so slick's gonna post the luke i

1272
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:01,520
haven't called you slick in a long time luke's gonna be posting the uh the straw

1273
01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:05,440
poll into the chat very very shortly here in

1274
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:10,639
the meantime there was one other topic oh yes titan z

1275
01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:18,159
has been postponed i think this one will work that's my vote um so brown ninja 97

1276
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,159
posted this on the forum

1277
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,600
here we go i'm just going to share with you guys while you guys vote

1278
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,159
so titan z was supposedly going to be released on april 29th but according to

1279
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:35,360
sweet clockers plans have changed the only thing we don't know is why

1280
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:40,080
we do apparently have some more details about the titan z so we were looking at

1281
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:44,000
a 180 megahertz frequency drop compared to the original 780 ti so

1282
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:50,639
yeah and we were looking at a cooling system that was going to be a triple

1283
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:54,719
slot cooler the first time we've ever seen a triple slot reference cooler out

1284
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,280
of NVIDIA and i think AMD i don't think anyone's ever done a triple slot

1285
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:02,880
reference yeah so it was um it was the

1286
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:07,040
rumor that the speculation and i haven't heard anything about it one way or the

1287
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:13,280
other is that titan z was was delayed because it's not going

1288
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:15,280
to be competitive with the r9 295 x2

1289
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:22,000
which is a liquid-cooled card that runs at the same speed as the full-fledged r9

1290
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,880
290x except two of them on a single card

1291
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:28,320
and that the titan z was going to be incredibly expensive i don't know if i

1292
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:34,320
necessarily buy that because the titan z was not meant to go head to head

1293
01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:37,520
against the 295 x2 it's a compute card

1294
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:39,280
with 12 gigs of memory and full double

1295
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:43,920
precision unlockedness like it it's it's it's more

1296
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:47,920
of a developer card i think part of the problem is their marketing was a little

1297
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:52,000
bit confusing on that you could be right because they they did talk about it in

1298
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:55,840
the in the sense and they always have with titan despite it not really being

1299
01:29:54,080 --> 01:30:00,000
that they have always marketed it on some level as a gamer well original

1300
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:03,840
titan was launched as the fastest gaming gp on the planet yeah that was how it

1301
01:30:01,679 --> 01:30:08,000
was positioned for better or for worse um and then they they talked a lot

1302
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:12,080
during the briefing call i remember my briefing call for titan because i was i

1303
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:15,040
was late for my badminton ladder because i had to sit on a briefing call for

1304
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,719
titan and then i had to leave the briefing call for titan make up some

1305
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:22,159
and bull story about how my phone got disconnected so i could attend a

1306
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:25,120
different briefing for like a different region that wasn't one of my original

1307
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:31,360
options so i could actually hear what they were saying because i had to go get on a badminton court but anyway um okay

1308
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:35,120
that's pretty funny uh but the branding was was to the reviewers it was very

1309
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:38,880
clear this is about double precision this is about cuda development and if

1310
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:43,199
gamers want to buy them then great but the way that it was positioned on like

1311
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:47,360
GeForce.com was not very clear and there was a lot of the symbol the same

1312
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:50,400
confusion about titan z so maybe because it wasn't going to be

1313
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competitive with a card that it was never really created to compete with

1314
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:58,719
they're put in a bit of an awkward position yeah i think they might have dug their

1315
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:02,719
own hole here i think the bigger story here

1316
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is i think this is maybe the end of the

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line of dual GPU top end cards

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01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:14,960
i've never liked them you look at what AMD AMD resorted to

1319
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:23,120
a prefab liquid cooler to make theirs work NVIDIA the the kings in my mind of

1320
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:24,639
cool quiet elegant solutions not

1321
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:31,120
compromising on like well not obviously not going back

1322
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:33,120
to like the fx 5800 days but but of late

1323
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:38,320
the NVIDIA that doesn't compromise on the overall experience to deliver more

1324
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:41,840
frames per second resorted to a triple slot cooler in order to make this thing

1325
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:46,159
function is that where we're at now is this is this the end of the line are we

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at the physical limitations of the heat that we can remove and the power that we

1327
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:53,920
can deliver to these cards and is it just the end now

1328
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:58,000
i'm i'm i even have a different point but i do agree with you on that um

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01:31:56,480 --> 01:32:02,400
although i wouldn't be surprised if it did work i just bet you that they're looking into

1330
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:07,440
triple slot coolers and stuff now because of results from 295x2

1331
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:10,880
i wouldn't be surprised there because i do suspect it probably did work with the

1332
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dual slot cooler um but

1333
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:19,040
i'm i'm surprised that like i i never liked them even when cases were huge

1334
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:22,880
right it made more sense to have a billion graphics cards now a lot of

1335
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:26,880
people are going to much smaller cases and smaller motherboards and smaller

1336
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:28,560
situations so it even makes more sense now

1337
01:32:27,679 --> 01:32:32,800
and it's still not catching on

1338
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:36,560
right and one thing that i need i think gpus are going really slow actually

1339
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:40,480
we've seen this like we've seen a little bit iteration for a long time and you're

1340
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:46,239
starting to see where like that card and even the 295x2 when

1341
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:48,800
things are fully set up on really really high resolutions which are coming down

1342
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:55,120
in price fast so people are going to start running them at really high settings

1343
01:32:52,159 --> 01:33:00,080
games at those resolutions are it's it's not that impressive

1344
01:32:57,199 --> 01:33:05,360
like barely over 60 FPS so then isn't that an argument for

1345
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:09,360
more dual GPU solutions it is but it's also an argument for stronger single GPU

1346
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:13,520
solutions i know this is hard to build slow iteration it's hard to build videos

1347
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:15,760
sits on stuff well

1348
01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:21,679
you can make the argument either way i don't think anyone outside of NVIDIA

1349
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:27,840
really knows what's happened over the last little while but what we do know is

1350
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:29,679
that tsmc is not delivering

1351
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:33,440
smaller process nodes so there's only so much you can do by

1352
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:37,280
tweaking the design with something like maxwell to go okay it's more efficient

1353
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:40,800
per watt and it does perform better but look guys this is all we can really do

1354
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:45,199
if it's colder and more efficient per watt and performs better and all that kind of stuff then it should be easier

1355
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:49,920
to make these dual GPU so then you want them to deliver a larger GPU

1356
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:53,679
or that because even though it's more expensive or that right they're making a

1357
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:58,080
lot of their but we should talk about GPU bomb costs if we're gonna talk about google glass bomb

1358
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:03,679
costs uh it's not about the bond i know i know i

1359
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:07,199
know okay let's talk let's talk about google glass should we talk about the

1360
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:14,320
poll results yeah uh yeah let's do the poll results so guys the results are in

1361
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:15,360
will china's gaming centric like

1362
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:20,320
thing will it be a success most of you think

1363
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:25,120
no i actually disagree i disagree wholeheartedly i think that particularly

1364
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:29,840
because it's in asia and i think that because it's on the forefront it's going

1365
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:34,320
to be the first one it is going to have the support of guys like mlg where

1366
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:40,080
they're going to be like yeah we want to have every event there from now on

1367
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:44,639
and once you make something into the default destination

1368
01:34:42,639 --> 01:34:49,120
then you kind of won at least for a while at least until competing

1369
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:52,080
facilities start to show up and there is something to be said even if you're

1370
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:56,960
watching on the screen i mean think about going to a concert unless you're

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01:34:54,000 --> 01:35:00,880
in like the first few dozen rows it's not like you can see the pores on the

1372
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:04,239
singer's face and a lot of the time you're gonna end up watching the big

1373
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:08,239
screen anyway so even though a gaming tournament is

1374
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:11,920
very much like that you're not really looking at the players most of the time

1375
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:15,760
you're looking at the screen it's more about people attend live events for the

1376
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:19,440
atmosphere i personally don't like having lots of people around me they're

1377
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:24,159
loud and they smell bad but lots of people like the atmosphere of

1378
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:27,520
concerts and sporting events and that's what this will be unless you're still

1379
01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:30,560
watching on a screen it's it's about being around the other

1380
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:35,679
people and cheering when the thing happens and the crowd going

1381
01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:39,600
and i think something like this can be a big success and i i think the timing is

1382
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:44,800
right yeah three years ago i would have

1383
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,920
laughed at it yeah me too and like with with china getting behind league of

1384
01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:50,800
legends so heavily i could totally see this because league

1385
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:54,560
of legends is gonna be a huge big deal there this arena and league of legends

1386
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,480
are gonna have to come together if that doesn't work then i don't think the

1387
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:02,960
arena is going to work 100 they they have to work together or else

1388
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:06,719
it's just no big deal so google glass costs 80 bucks to build this was

1389
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:11,239
originally posted on the forum by shadow captain that's fine so the processor

1390
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:15,679
costs 13.96 with the wi-fi and blue shift

1391
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:19,239
bluetooth chips coming in at our bluetooth chip coming in at 10.79 and

1392
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:23,280
the camera 5.66

1393
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:26,639
if they increase the bom cost they could put in a way better camera they could do

1394
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:32,080
all kinds of interesting stuff and still make a profit but something that people

1395
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:35,520
need to understand so anyone who is like upset about the bomb cost of a product

1396
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:39,600
like this it is not about the bomb cost it is

1397
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:43,520
about and for oh sorry bomb means bill of materials so the actual like list of

1398
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:47,840
things on a spreadsheet that go into it and the the 80 includes assembly

1399
01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:52,560
apparently yeah but it's not about that it's about the extremely expensive

1400
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:56,639
engineers that you have to employ for a long period of time before you can

1401
01:36:54,639 --> 01:37:00,000
actually release it that all needs salaries

1402
01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:04,880
so there's there seems to be a fair bit of outrage that google's charging 1500 for

1403
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:09,840
because i mean it's something to remember guys is they don't want people to buy it not really they only want

1404
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:15,360
people to buy it who are serious business like developers and stuff and

1405
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:17,520
going to develop for it or or uh provide

1406
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:22,080
like massive media coverage for it or people who can afford to spend 1500 on

1407
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:25,920
something to try it to be one of the first ones that's who they they don't

1408
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:30,239
want everyone to have one because they know it's not ready yet it's like oculus

1409
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:35,440
developer kits yeah they don't want everyone to buy it they say outright

1410
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:39,520
they kind of did kind of but they wanted developers to buy it they don't want

1411
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:44,080
every joe to buy it and then like do a review of how it the pixels are big yeah

1412
01:37:42,639 --> 01:37:47,600
you don't want people to have a bad experience with the product you'd rather

1413
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:50,480
just not have them have it at all it's fairly and that's an interesting uh

1414
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:54,080
point because it's fairly well documented that oculus looks like a

1415
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:58,400
screen door and the google glass experience is really not that good yeah

1416
01:37:56,239 --> 01:38:01,360
and that's because they're both not what those companies want them to be yet

1417
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:06,800
that's right so you're going to pay you're going to pay more and then there's even a lot of

1418
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:09,280
speculation that cv1 consumer version one of oculus rift is going to be

1419
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:14,320
cheaper than some of the development kits have been or all of the development kits have been

1420
01:38:12,159 --> 01:38:18,880
interesting if you think about it the mass manufacturing possibilities behind

1421
01:38:16,719 --> 01:38:21,280
a consumer version are much higher than the development version if you're only

1422
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:25,360
making a very small amount of something like

1423
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:28,800
development kit one wasn't a huge amount so if you're only making that much it

1424
01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:33,520
could cost more all right so unless you have something

1425
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:36,800
else that you feel is incredibly important we do have a few more things

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01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:41,600
on here but i think that like needs to be done i think that's pretty much it for the

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lanchow we thank you guys very much for tuning in the weather's beautiful so i'm

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not doing a garage sale today i will do one again at some point it's just

1429
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:52,480
honestly you guys fridays are very tiring at the end of

1430
01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:56,480
very tiring weeks so he does a lot of stuff on friday and this morning was

1431
01:38:54,400 --> 01:39:02,480
worse than usual i had to go to uh see an accountant about our like Linus media

1432
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:05,679
group tax filing and stuff

1433
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:09,679
yeah that doesn't sound fun at all

1434
01:39:05,679 --> 01:39:11,920
so i had to i yeah today was awesome

1435
01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:16,719
i noticed you you got back to the office later than you normally do

1436
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:19,760
yeah so i assumed something i was late to ncix and then i was late getting back

1437
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:24,880
here but uh thank you guys very much for tuning in we hope you enjoyed the wen

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01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:29,760
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shield and ASUS we gotta like synchronize that better

1440
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:37,760
should be like um thank you to ASUS for uh for

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01:39:36,159 --> 01:39:41,360
sponsoring the show today i don't know how many times i've said thank you for watching but i really am

1442
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:45,520
thankful that you guys watch if you're tuning in late we will have the archive

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01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:48,800
up on the youtube sometime hopefully in the next sort of few hours if not it'll

1444
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:52,560
be tomorrow morning it's going to be when we get a chance yes i was going to

1445
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:59,560
say it didn't break in half this time yeah that always helps so that my that

1446
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:59,560
that should help peace out guys um