The WAN Show - Galaxy Note 7 & Titan XP!! - August 5th, 2016
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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welcome to the W show I'm hoping that everything is working I
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hate it when burkel is Left unsupervised
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in the warehouse and does and pushes things around and uh just you know does
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whatever it is that he's doing right now I don't I don't even know what their
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Channel Super Fun thing is but it involves an electric bike or something
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and uh I'm not going to worry too much about it yes the W show is less than 20
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minutes late because I actually came down at 1:00 today and started working
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on making sure that everything was functioning correctly so that's why we
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are less late than we otherwise would have been yeah and Colton was like oh
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man the W might be on time today lonus is working on it at like 1:00 Colton is
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Young and naive stupid no just that's
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that was rude stupid he's not stupid he just hasn't learned yet that the way and
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Show's never on time you know that's just the way it is
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all right so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today Luke's actually on vacation he's over in London
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working on some kind of high technology
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product launch I'm fairly certain we signed an NDA so I'm just not going to
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say yeah don't don't talk about that anything about it nothing about it other
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than that he's there he's doing a thing and I'm sure if your Google fu is strong
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you can figure out out what he's doing and what it has to do with but he's
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taking a few days off before the event and in the meantime I am stuck back here
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in Canada literally unplugging and
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plugging in USB connections thousands of
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times that is what I spent the last hour and a half or so working on is it micro
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b yes so oh so that's your own personal hell that is yes basically well it's
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only half hell because the other half is Type C so I tease this on social Med a
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little while ago but I'm actually going to be doing a head-to-head comparison of
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how many plugs before micro or typc
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break at least it's not non-reversible a
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cuz then before every plug you'd have to flip it over three
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times so we got a lot of great topics for you guys today uh first up the
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Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has been announced
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and uh this one's a shocker the screen is
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big wow the NVIDIA Titan XP has been
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reviewed and benchmarked that is to say
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by other Publications not by us so it's
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it's not called the XP right it's just the X right no it's called the Titan
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XP anyway um so Microsoft pitches
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technology that can read facial expressions at political rallies so uh
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you know we're that much closer to Skynet I guess we're that much closer to
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do okay so uh question do they aim them at the politicians or at the audience at
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the audience oh cuz I was thinking aiming them at the politicians might
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actually be a lot more useful it' be like a lie detector that would be like
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an actual you know Boon to society
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whereas this is just let's figure out who doesn't agree with dear leader and
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uh and we'll get him out of here actually would it be helpful to tell us
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that politicians are just lying the whole time I mean we already know that
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in theory I mean what else we got what else we got we'll talk about it in more
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depth later um the world's first programmable quantum computer is
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apparently a thing I haven't actually read anything about this topic so uh
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we'll see what happens yay
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Colton I checked it I think it's the right one it works there's no
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weirdness yeah
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I think they should actually change their slogan to that it should just be
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like squar
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space Linda
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wo all right all right guys so why don't we
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jump right into our first topic here today the Galaxy S7 has launched our
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original article here did I say Galaxy S7 see this is where I run into trouble
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this is where or this is where Samsung gets me into trouble by having multiple
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devices that are very very similar so
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the original article here is from Anon Tech at least I think it is it's hard to
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tell with all the soft layer ads on all
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sides of the uh on all sides of the website dang I'm pretty sure I'm pretty
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sure it's an ontech shot shots shots fired although those those who those who
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uh what is it live in Glass Houses something something Rock don't don't
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those who live in Glass Houses sink ships or something yeah I'm pretty sure
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it goes something along those lines and especially with our resident ad man
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literally sitting next to
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me it probably doesn't make sense for us to be to be too critical of ads but uh
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so what is there to say but oh so usually the co-host job is to take the
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link to the original article and posted in the twitch chat wait you actually
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expect me to do stuff while I'm sitting here yeah that's what I thought I sign
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up for that that's what I thought was going to happen I thought you were going to say things and do things I didn't
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sign up for that um so basically it's
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about as similar to any S Class product
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that we have pretty much ever seen so spec-wise you're getting a Snapdragon
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820 in the US anyway uh for RAM 4 gigs
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of lpddr4 for storage you're getting 6 4 gigs plus micro SD expansion I mean
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having micro SD expansion on the Note series was I think a bigger deal when it
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was not notably absent from the S Series
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but it has kind of Gone full circle now and is is back on the S on the S7 um the
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screen is 5.7 in it's 1440p it's uh sa
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AMOLED or S AMOLED okay uh dual Edge
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display it's got a 12 megapixel rear camera 5 megapixel front camera I mean
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I'm just getting bored talking about this a 3500 milliamp power battery I
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think the more interesting aspect of the conversation is that Samsung apparently
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learned how to count from everyone else in
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technology wait yeah we missed the Note 6 yeah I just realized that you didn't
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realize no I actually I I I pay so little attention to the note lineup
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because it's kind of like okay let's say
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were me yeah and like Trojan godamn
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releases a new line of like Magnum condoms okay so they've got like the
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Magnum X and they've got the Magnum XL and they've got the Magnum XP or
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whatever are you really paying attention the Titan Magnum
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XP so for me the note series and I will
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be reviewing the Note 7 um at some point
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at some point uh over the next little bit here and I'll say my usual thing I'm
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going to say it's a big Galaxy S7 and it's too big literally now they called
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it the Note 7 to line up with the S7 um
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so stay tuned for that or don't bother it's totally up to you uh but there are
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some unique things so the SP pen now
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allows you to turn videos into gifs which if you're a frequent Twitter
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is going to be a huge Boon for you so your tweets can now have 70% more GIF
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and not just the canned ones when you click the thing you can make your own um
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you cannot put the Spen into the phone backwards anymore which isn't to say you
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which isn't to say you couldn't before the problem wasn't putting it in it was
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say you couldn't get it back up
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yes this is cool it's ip68 so that's uh
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dust and water resistant yeah um with
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the S Pen attached or detached that's
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pretty cool anytime you open up a large hole in an object you are
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significantly um reducing its Ingress
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Protection ability so that's pretty cool and this is the big one Samsung has
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introduced Iris authentication with the
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node 7 so I obviously haven't used it I
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haven't seen it in action I will definitely be commenting on that but I
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do have an initial important question
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and we will debate this and I want to hear from you guys on this I'm going to
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go ahead and create a straw pole right now do you feel like Irish
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protection hold on I'm just going to
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type as I go do you feel like Iris protection is a any more convenient or
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B any more secure than fingerprint
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protection which we already have
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H do you want me to give my opinion now or should we wait for the hit it I
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mean I feel like there has to
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be more issues with Iris protection at least at first right because at this
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point the sample size from the public on fingerprint is so massive mhm so obvious
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viously Iris has to be at a certain level in order for them to even have it
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on this but I mean I would be a little
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bit hesitant at least at first like first generation of it for the public
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obviously it's been on other stuff in the past um but in terms of something as
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ubiquitous as a note series
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smartphone my my take on it is that
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anything anything camera Reliant from my
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experience you know going back and Sam Samsung Samsung does this kind of thing
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to themselves um anything camera reliant on a Samsung
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phone and whether you want to talk Smart Stay uh where the screen stays on if
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you're looking at it or if you want to talk about um what was it I think they
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had like uh like hand gestures that you could do to take pictures with the
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selfie camera Samsung's had a Samsung's had a lot of motion and Camera
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controlled features most of which have been abs abolute garbage and just plane
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haven't worked very well and people are saying it is a sensor on its own so it
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uses IR as well so that's good see this is why it's important for me to read
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twitch chat instead of just going on and on forever but anything okay so with the
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exception of the touch sensor anything Samsung's done that's like like a a a
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biometric or or natural human interaction thing has been either cludy
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or basically not worked at all from my EXP experience so I am
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both excited and also very skeptical to
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see how well this works because it's all fine and good if it works on you know a
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brightly lit show floor or if it works in at during the day but is this the
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kind of thing that's going to work dur at night and if it doesn't I so it
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should theoretically it should theoretically um or is it going to work
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when there or is it going to work I mean that's here that's another interesting
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point of part of the conversation is it going to work where there's a lot of ir
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pollution yeah like let's say you're on the CES show floor is there going to be
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too much pollution I don't know I don't know so and the question that I have
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that we have to answer then is if it doesn't work all the time if it isn't
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bulletproof and quite frankly I'd say the first generation of touch ID was
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pretty good and now it's gotten to the point where phones are coming out
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whether it's the axm 7 uh whether it's the Galaxy S7 uh whether it's the iPhone
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6s phone are coming out now where fingerprint detection is so fast and so
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accurate like even if your fingers are a little bit damp that I almost always use
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it I use it all the time I don't have to think about it until Iris detection gets
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that good I don't personally feel like it is going to be more secure or more
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convenient because as it is you could make the argument that
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someone could steal your fingerprints I mean they did it on MythBusters you could make the argument someone can
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steal your fingerprint they create um a
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rubber mold and then or a silicone mold and then they can they can spoof it in
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fact I believe it's been faked on uh on phones already
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so arguably fingerprint is not the most
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secure thing it's much more difficult to extract someone's eyeball right however there there have
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to be other spoofing measures though that's still pretty difficult that's
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still pretty difficult to do the fingerprint sort of creation thing I
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think if someone is that determined they're probably just going to put a gun
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to your head and tell you to unlock the phone anyway so I don't personally
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believe it adds a lot of security and I also don't personally believe it adds
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any convenience if anything I see that being less convenient because I don't
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know about you but my phone's already unlocked by the time I get it in front
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of my face yeah a lot of the time not
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this one because the ax 7 you can't use the fingerprint sensor as a lock button
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actually wait yes you can okay sorry I was wrong it didn't do it a second ago
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there you just have to wait a little bit longer when you do that but it's really
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fast when you press the lock button initially um but on the S7 where the
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lock button is on the front and it is like what I reach for first when I pull
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it out of my pocket it's unlocked well before it ever reaches my face in the
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first place so I don't really see that being a huge factor for me let's go
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ahead and check out the results here's a bit of a tangent but
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what what if they were to use something like an IR sensor to try to inhibit
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stuff like texting and driving
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where like if there's some type of a gyrometer or Gyro or whatever in your
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phone yeah that is like you're moving at a certain speed you have to use your IR
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sensor so you can't just unlock your phone when it's like down here by your
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side I mean I I can't see I can't see
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phone manufacturer because okay so the cold hard truth is that people are going
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to they're going to do it okay okay the cold hard truth is that phone
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manufacturers aren't going to start interfering with dangerous user
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practices that inconvenience the user that wants to do it unless they're
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mandated by law yeah so I don't see that happening I don't see it happening
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either that was just like what if like I'm just trying to think of a scenario
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where this could be potentially positive like I could see that being an app that
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like a parent might install but I mean okay you know I'm I'm sure twitch chat
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is telling us like stuff like this exists where it knows if you're driving
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that uh the phone shouldn't work like it's the kind of thing I could see parents installing on their kids phones
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yeah so that's something I could also see it being useful and uh we so we've
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got uh we've got the results from our straw pole here where people are saying
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for the most part uh not more convenient or more secure with about 40% of you
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saying it's either more convenient or more secure and only 14% of you saying
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that they think it will be more convenient and more secure so one way
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that it could add security would be if Samsung allows us to require both a
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fingerprint and an iris scan yeah but I'm again I haven't had my
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hands on the phone I haven't looked into this a lot um so stay tuned I I will be
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covering it that will come later we'll see how it goes all right the uh Titan XP reviews
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and benchmarks have arrived for some hey
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Outlets don't don't hate on my Titan XP naming all right oh these guys spelled
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it wrong they missed they missed the PE on it they missed the PE dude ah they
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missed the PE all right so did you copy that into the twitch chat thank you so
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all right I actually talked about this um PC perr was live streaming on their
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way down to like Quake con or something I actually forget where they were going
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so I'm just naming a random land Quake con right now I don't know think so I
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have no idea anyway the point is PC per was on their way down to a land event
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and they randomly shout randomly called me and uh speaking of using your phone
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and driving he had one phone that he was using to talk to me and he had the
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speaker of that phone held up against the microphone of another phone that he
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was periscoping from that he was he was actually he was only streaming audio so
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he was okay audio streaming from that one and I didn't know this until the end
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of the of the talk let's let's give sh the benefit of the dope maybe he had a
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hands-free solution going on we don't have video proof of any of this and
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maybe someone else was driving maybe someone else was driving someone else
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was holding the phones maybe PC per makes so much that he has a dedicated
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chauffeur okay maybe that's it maybe shrout's just a baller all right could
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be so anyway I was talking to shroud about this and the way that NVIDIA
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handled the Titan X launch I was kind of
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I pitched this to him and he kind of went yeah I don't know sounds plausible
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enough but I doubt he knows one way or the other and if he did I'm sure it
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would get someone at NVIDIA in trouble for him knowing uh but I was just like
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you know what it seems like happened here Jensen basically woke up poured a
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bowl of cereal for breakfast or whatever it is that bazillion eat yeah was
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sitting there eating it went I'm going to launch the Titan X today yeah yeah I
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I said that to you earlier this week yes that's kind of how it looks like to me
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that this went down because there was
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there were no materials sent to reviewers we got an email I think like
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10 minutes before being like hey just FYI Titan X is going on in 10
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minutes good luck we didn't get an NDA
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nope we actually I don't think we ever signed an NDA nope it was 10 minutes
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before launch um so so but but well the announcement the announcement prior to
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the lunch the announc announ so we never had an NDA at any point prior to the
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lunch and there's a reason for that and the reason for that is that um so some
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people got their Titan XPS the morning
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of the launch that night at 9:00 p.m. Pacific time we didn't get ours until
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noon about or Tuesday after the day of
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the launch and I'm kind of sitting here going like honestly I haven't talked to
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anyone at NVIDIA about this yet but when I do it's not going to be a happy
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conversation I'm going to kind of explain a little something I'm going to
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say okay so look you gave us nine hours of which only six of them are working
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hours because we're running a real company we're not like a guy in a
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basement with nothing to do until NVIDIA
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you know decides to bestow upon us a
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graphics card that we have the privilege of covering um and and I mean to be
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clear yes we do appreciate getting Hardware from manufacturers so that we
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can have timely coverage of it but the way that that normally works is we get
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it with enough time to do coverage of it so in this case we got six actual
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working hours of which let's do the math backwards okay of which I'd say about 15
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minutes of it goes into actually like filling out all the fields on YouTube
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yeah okay about 5 minutes of it goes into uploading it about half an hour to
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45 minutes of it is exporting it from Premiere assuming we only have to do
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that once which sometimes we don't like 20 minutes waiting for it to process on
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YouTube yep 20 minutes waiting for it to process on YouTube so we've already we've already used up well over an hour
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of our of our six hours okay so just saying the these are things that
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happened um editing it takes about 6
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hours okay benchmarking it takes another
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you know probably four to six depending
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on the depth and for something like XP we would have liked to do more
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benchmarks because NVIDIA has come out and said this is not just a gaming card
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it's like machine learning deep learning that stuff yeah so we've never
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benchmarked a card for deep learning before it's never come up so it's the
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kind of thing where there's a bit of a learning curve so let's say there's a few hours of actually figuring out how
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to Benchmark the thing in the first place um aside from that there's
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actually you know usually attending a briefing call so that you have some idea
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what the crap is going on not that I think there was get like a white paper
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or anything no I don't believe there was a reviewer guide for it um you know so
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usually there's some time spent reviewing the reviewer guide actually no
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maybe he got it the morning of something like that anyway the point is it was not
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actually possible oh yeah oh yeah shooting b-roll so this is another
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challenge because theoretically you could shoot
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Boll like on the Fly while someone is working on editing in a linear fashion
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through the video and we've actually done that before yeah the is that there
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is absolutely no way to shoot Boll of the card while it's being
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benchmarked well you could get Boll of it on the on the test
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bench Brandon how long does it take to do b-roll of a graphics card uh if I'm
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doing it quickly four hours so Brandon figures he
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could speed through one in four hours but that probably assumes that Brandon's
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working on one of those uh endless streams of identical cards do you
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remember when we did like three wind Force cards in a span of two weeks I've
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seen the Force card more than they think I've seen anything yeah good old
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windforce so basically NVIDIA gave us a
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literally impossible goal of having a video up on time for this launch it was
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very frustrating but there's good news now
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that I'm done renting about how they really should organize themselves a
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little bit better I mean it's funny because between them and AMD actually um
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I I don't think I can't talk about that one yet or is that one launched I don't
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know when the NDA is for that it might have been I don't know
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like the last couple weeks of graphics
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cards deliveries and stuff has been like
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okay yeah the rx470 Embargo is lifted so that was another one where our rx470
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arrived today our official one we actually already had one from someone
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else but we didn't have our rever guide and we didn't have a driver yet so this
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is funny to me 1080 rx480
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very organized events around them yeah yeah
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relatively speaking like they were talking to us about rx480 launch a month
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before three weeks or three weeks before like we were we were organizing stuff um
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that's three weeks before the event which was a month and a half or something before the launch yes and then
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1080 uh to a lesser degree NVIDIA does the whole like Cloak and Dagger we are
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NVIDIA we are like super secret business
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bro they they do that a little bit more than AMD does um at least intentionally
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so in the case of both titanex and rx470
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it's just amazing the contrast it's like did they spend all the budget or spend
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all the time organizing these launches and then just kind of go oh yeah I guess
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there's like other stuff too like I really decide I really don't understand
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this launch sequence like it almost feels
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like I don't know it almost feels like r x480 was
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announced and then they were like oh crap like we got to do 1080 very soon
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then and then it wasn't rx40 wasn't what they were expecting so then just this
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Landslide happened because like there was misinformation or something and
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someone thought they were going to be competing with someone else in a similar price point and then they weren't so
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then they had to match up which then caused the other team to keep going
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forward if that makes sense like it just feels very disorganized this time around
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all all right so let's talk facts about Titan XP it features a 16 NM gp102 GPU so this
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is very close to the Pascal GPU we've
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been introduced to in the Tesla lineup but not quite the same thing it's got
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3584 Cuda course so when you compare that to the Titan X the previous card uh
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when you compare that to the titanex it had 2560 so this is a very significant
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uptick in Cuda cor and that pretty much comes from the process node TR I think
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that may have supposed to be that that was probably supposed to be GTX 1080 I
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think oh is that 1080 I believe so o I can't remember anyway it has 224 texture
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units 96 RS a base clock of 1417 MHz and
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a boost clock of 1531 with Hardware Canucks actually managing to get it to
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overclock to a continuous like holding steady frequency of 1923 MHz yeah the
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old old Titan X had 3072 3072 thank you
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yeah all right so it's got 12 gigs of GDDR 5x RAM so we
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did not see hbm2 again this is a downgrade from the Tesla card and it's
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clocked at 10 GHz quad data rate and a 384-bit memory bus for a total of 480
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gabes per second of memory bandwidth and a 250 watt TDP so once again NVIDIA has
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one of the hottest cards on the market it's funny people give AMD a lot of crap
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for having really hot cards y the difference is that when comes to
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Performance per watt uh the Titan X
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really does come through so it's about 20% faster than even non-reference 1080s
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in some titles and as far as single gpus go it is King I was actually talking to
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shred about this too but it's gotten to the point where on the like performance
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charts in their reviews it's like Nidia land and then
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like a like it's gotten to the point where AMD
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has like it's you give it enough if they
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keep up the way that they're going you give it another couple of generations
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like this AMD may find themselves a full
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generation behind Invidia while NVIDIA sells graphics cards at a whopping
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$1,200 a pop that's insane lining their
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pockets stuffing the coffers and giving
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them more money to spend on R&D to cycle
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faster and faster and faster this is a troubling time a very
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troubling time because NVIDIA could
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easily slash the pricing of their lineup
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and make it very difficult to recommend buying an AMD card but NVIDIA is not
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really not really prone to do that they tend to wait until AMD puts actual
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pressure on them to drop the price so instead they're sitting there
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accumulating massive amounts of money to spend on basically you know whatever is
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the next technology they're going to introduce whether it's gam stream or
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gsync or whatever else that makes it so that at least some gamers are going to
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look at this card versus that card and go well this isn't even a decision
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because AMD straight up doesn't have feature X Y or Z I love how
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like you say things like NVIDIA cards are performing better right now and
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people in twitch chat call you an NVIDIA shell that's just the facts I don't make
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the rules yo we're not saying like they're better in performance per dollar
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although in some cases I think the no no no the rx40 was better than 1060 in
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performance per dollar I can't remember um but it's just the facts
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like yeah some people so uh rage
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something in twitch chat says NVIDIA won't let AMD go bankrupt I'm actually
28:20
not convinced that's anything to do with the motivation at this point um I think
28:26
it's just a matter of not not wanting to sell computer hardware at low margins um
28:32
not wanting to constantly iterate on new silicon as fast as they possibly can the
28:37
way that they were doing you know back in the mid 2000s and it's a matter of
28:42
just being happy to sit and make ample
28:45
margin and happy to have AMD sit there
28:49
as a measuring stick for why Enid's
28:52
graphics cards are worth a lot
28:56
more trouble in time
28:59
so yeah just the the $200 price hike is
29:03
what really gets me it's just it's the same as the 6950x it's like we're
29:08
charging this because we can so I actually thought that there was some
29:12
justification for the $200 price hike yeah and I went back in time I may have
29:16
actually done this on W show when the Titan XP was first announced um so I
29:21
went back in time and adjusted for inflation like I found super crazy
29:25
stupid Halo products from you know 15
29:28
years ago and compared them and the $200
29:31
price hike was definitely still unjustified but it's not as unjustified
29:37
as the $700 price hike on the 6950x but
29:41
I can talk more about that one actually now I've I've been working on a pretty
29:44
interesting video that that okay that does don't spoil anything but I won't
29:49
but that does put that price hike into a
29:53
more yeah it puts it into a different perspective for me so anyway one thing
29:58
that we're ignoring when we say NVIDIA is jacking the price etc etc is that R&D
30:02
costs are going up Generation by generation R&D processes are going up at
30:08
the manufacturing level so at Global foundaries tsmc Intel and at the chip
30:13
design level Pascal is a more
30:16
complicated more difficult to design product than Maxwell than keer and etc
30:23
etc etc um back to Intel's price hike on
30:27
the 10 Core Extreme
30:30
Edition basically it's a
30:34
Zeon so where it comes from is not
30:38
wanting to cannibalize Zeon because when I was working on my what CPU should I
30:43
buy video MH I actually worked into my
30:47
comparative sheet I worked all the everything from cerons all the way up to
30:52
the $7,000 four-way uh E5 or or E7 series
30:58
zon or is it E5 4000 any I forget I
31:02
forget the nomencl is either way don't worry about it anyway I worked in the
31:05
whole thing and what I realized is that aside from the
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6800k which is priced more like a
31:13
desktop chip and I think the reason for that is because they kneecapped its PCI
31:16
Express Lanes making it suitable for desktop use even to a SLI which is all
31:21
we recommend around here but not really suitable for Server use where many many
31:27
expansion cards is much more likely to be a thing except for the 6800k there is
31:32
basically an equivalent Zeon in the current generation and you can look back
31:36
at the previous generation and go yeah that was kind of the one that that was a successor to too okay so they pretty
31:41
much pric them like overclockable zons that don't have ECC
31:47
and you are paying a slight premium for the Zeon because it has ECC so it can
31:52
handle server memory okay and that's it that's basically that was the logic do I
31:57
like it no yeah the issue is now is that they're
32:02
labeling it as a core i7 and they're trying to sell it to Consumers obviously
32:06
very high end consumer at a server price at a server price and the other thing
32:10
that bothers me here too is not necessarily what they've done on the
32:14
extreme Edition side because quite frankly I've never recommended an
32:17
extreme Edition to anyone I've never recommended that someone buy an extreme
32:21
Edition it has not happened and that was true when they were $1,000 and it's true
32:25
today now that they're $1,700
32:28
so doesn't matter to me it didn't make it any more or less likely that I would
32:33
recommend one um to me the part that I find more objectionable is that Intel
32:38
has been in in in the range that I
32:42
actually expect people to buy so that's on the consumer platform the consumer
32:46
chipset and socket M they've been selling us quad cores for 10
32:52
years q6600 turned
32:55
10 or actually no not quite sorry sorry not quite 10 we'll turn 10 within a year
33:01
and that's like still a sort of relevant
33:05
ship sort of it's like somewhat usable so q6600 was launched at around
33:10
$700 but within about again about a year
33:13
was down to pretty similar to what you'd pay for a 6700k today so you could get a
33:20
kind of not quite Enthusiast blah blah extremo Edition quad core for basically
33:27
you're paying for it today almost 10 years ago I think consumers should be
33:32
getting a six core I don't see a reason
33:35
why the Enthusiast range goes from six to eight and consumers are still stuck
33:38
with aqu quad I mean I do see a reason because they've had more emphasis on
33:42
better onboard Graphics which I could end up completely eating my words you
33:47
know 5 years from now when those chips with the better onboard Graphics are
33:51
just you know blowing through video rendering or or you know uh encryp tasks
33:58
or whatever the case may be using that GPU power but for now putting onboard
34:04
graphics on a 6700k just makes me kind of feel bad
34:09
when it could have just had more cores or more
34:12
cash yeah you got to remember your perspective though as someone who always
34:16
puts a dedicated graphics in a machine yeah like a lot of people a lot of
34:21
people don't need more than four cores for the little amount of gaming and you
34:26
know voice Comm and and music that they're going to be running right that's
34:29
true and especially when you factor in hyperthreading yeah I just feel like if
34:32
they could give us four cores nine years ago then why can't they give us a couple
34:37
more today I'm sure that they could I mean and they are higher performance
34:40
cores actually Anon Tech did a great article comparing modern CPUs to uh
34:45
conro okay it's worth having a look at you guys should check it out anyway but
34:48
go ahead yeah I just I don't know I feel like they're trying to Target someone
34:53
who isn't you with the foure which is probably Smart in all
34:59
honesty so it so so basically what you're saying is that it's no freaking
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article here is originally from
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politico.com digital campaigns how can
40:20
Democrats win with tech that looks like
40:23
a fascinating discussion that they're having right now I've been tagged in hi
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everyone hey how's it going welcome to the show it's good so in Cleveland Ohio
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I'm going to do this one on my own while you figure out what the next topic you want to do is in Cleveland Ohio
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Microsoft's research division advertised a technology that can read facial
40:41
expressions in a massive crowd so they can analyze emotions and report back in
40:46
real time so they're calling this realtime crowd insights hang on what's
40:50
the resolution of the camera they're using probably uh like NSA megapixels oh
40:57
so the small camera scans the room there
41:00
you go while a monitor displays the captured image and there's actually a
41:04
picture from the test here so we'll go ahead and pop this up
41:07
mhm check this out this is like scary stuff right here 59y old male whoa 38
41:13
male happy 37 female happy 27 male
41:17
neutral have you ever done one of those age test thingies where it tries to guess your age based on your face and
41:21
notice how it's not really that accurate um maybe there's more accurate
41:25
technology out there but that's a doctor
41:29
image you think that's a doctor image this is from a demo this is a screen
41:32
grab they Pro they then then then Sherry picked the one where the Ages were
41:36
pretty much okay well here hold on okay do you think those are probably pretty
41:40
much correct I think she's that girl looks younger than that oh I she looks
41:44
it's kind of low resolution it's hard to tell yeah I think this looks about right
41:49
59 for that guy yeah 59 gr gray hair it's hard to
41:54
it's hard to tell he's got a big nose that's not enough resolution there to be
41:57
able to tell that did you know that your nose grows your whole life and so do
42:00
your ears that sounds like a myth no then you must be very
42:12
old shows over yeah and that's the end
42:16
of that chapter um okay so anyway anyway
42:20
okay so I'm going to finish going through this while you find a topic that did you do the NASA one yet no so every
42:26
5 Seconds a New Image would appear with data annotated for each face so they
42:31
assigned a serial number this is great assigned a serial number gender
42:36
estimated age and any emotions detected in the facial expression and they keep
42:40
track of the serial number and can identify the same person hours later no
42:44
way so a Microsoft spokesperson said for example that you could use this Tech at
42:48
a trump Rally or even the Super Bowl to find out how the audience what on Earth
42:53
are you doing I'm too short at tall for this as is right now now yeah now it's
43:01
good okay um so anyway okay so so let's talk about
43:07
how I expect this technology to be used mhm
43:12
basically we are giving politicians a
43:16
tool to lie to us more effectively really yes wait who who is this
43:21
technology for for them well the way it's being pitched is that it could be
43:25
used at a campaign rally uh-huh so that way through you could actually look like
43:30
imagine this this is this is like some next LEL stuff right here you could look
43:35
you could scrub through the campaign speech and you could see a Hots spot or
43:40
you could see like like a heat map of
43:43
viewer sentiment during the speech every
43:47
time so every time the politician says anything you can Pander to viewers in
43:51
real time yes just like that onion skit which is a really funny video that you
43:55
should watch instead of the wi no I'm just kidding no let's keep uh
44:00
yeah Panda to viewers in real in real time I me can you imagine if the L show
44:06
if if I had real life sentiment monitoring like say for example twitch
44:11
chat when they're like Taran I love you
44:15
you just ate that sweet so damn
44:18
fabulously so there you go yeah in real time yeah cuz we can watch this but it's
44:23
like really annoying to do so yeah and not as trustworthy so if we just had
44:28
like so it's it's basically taking people sad angry mad and turning them
44:33
into a a sentiment value that's cool so
44:36
you could have a sentiment percentage in the crowd so the second that you know
44:41
let's say uh Mrs Trump you know pulls
44:44
part of a speech from Michelle Obama or the second that Hillary Dodges a
44:49
question about you know the fact that she's being investigated in the middle
44:53
of a presidential campaign you know I'm not taking I'm not quite frankly I'm not
44:57
taking sides at all in this one now that I know who the two candidates are I'm
45:00
just kind of yay I'm Canadian this is not my problem at
45:05
all can you even vote yeah I'm still an
45:08
American citizen yeah but can you vote if you're not living in America I think
45:11
you vote based on the last state you lived in which for me is Colorado oh
45:15
okay so there there you go so enjoy that
45:18
um but like you could be saying something like bro the most important
45:23
thing to us is jobs and and then you
45:26
could see like dip and you could go but that's not as important as the
45:31
environment yeah it it's something comedians are
45:35
good at this where they'll start a series of jokes and if the audience
45:39
reaction is really positive they'll continue with that series but if not
45:43
they go on to the next joke but now we can have it for politics and have robots
45:48
figuring it out and then you create a robot that's good enough at pandering
45:52
and we won't even need politicians anymore that's also another onion skit
45:56
we'll just put robot in charge perfect brilliant president
46:01
execut so there you go that's kind of
46:04
that's kind of my take on this there's that picture by the way you guys can you
46:07
guys can check that out
46:11
um wow I just it's a Brave New World lus
46:15
yeah I I don't really have anything else to say other than well but the thing is
46:19
like we we've heard of all of these like interesting pieces of tech that sound
46:22
scary but then we never really hear anything else yeah that's cuz it's all
46:25
happening behind closed doors course I I've heard that like the
46:30
security cameras at I forget what it was maybe Sears or Target or something like
46:34
they're extremely good have I told you this on the show before I think it's
46:37
Target like extremely good to the point where they know what you've purchased
46:41
before you go to the check they've actually already I think it's Target
46:44
where they've already rung you up before you actually walk because the cameras
46:47
are so high resolution they track everything it's amazing and like that's
46:53
just the stuff we know about yeah I mean I'm sure Professor Zuckerberg over there
46:58
has plenty going on that we don't know about and then like there were NSA
47:01
satellites that were decrepit and they're like oh these are obsolete now
47:05
here NASA you can have these and NASA's like holy crap these are amazing
47:08
satellites what have you guys been using them for and then NASA's basically like
47:12
okay turn them around to point at the
47:15
stars instead of all the people
47:18
everywhere cuz that's frankly a better use for satellites hey for people like
47:23
me as far as I'm concerned they're one and the same
47:28
you're not a star maybe a a very dim one all right so
47:33
let's talk about NASA's training program that involves consumer grade VR and
47:39
quote unquote NVIDIA GPU technology I'm
47:42
assuming this is like the perfect lonus and Teran topic all right so let's pull
47:46
up the uh let's pull up the NVIDIA blog
47:49
here Invidia reported this uh yeah well
47:53
NVIDIA is always bragging about anything you can use a GP are especially fond of
47:57
bragging about things that you can use a GPU for that are not gaming oh yeah well
48:03
yeah yeah I can see that so let's uh run
48:07
through the notes here once I get that switch back so they're embarking on a
48:11
15-year Journey to Mars and VR is going to play a key role so they're actually
48:15
going to be using NVIDIA GPU technology combined with Unreal Engine 4 mhm
48:21
consumer grade VR physical mockups and models wearable Technologies and room
48:26
scale tracking and they're going to create what they're calling a hybrid
48:29
reality system very very cool they want to
48:34
create an extremely immersive and realistic training facility at a lower
48:39
cost than traditional analog test Fields hang on this says a 15-year Journey to
48:43
Mars it only takes like 9 months to a year to get to Mars preparation yeah
48:49
training for sure but it's worded oddly in this document okay fine let's
48:53
continue so uh Frank Delgado and Matthew
48:57
noise at NASA's Johnson Space Center hybrid reality lab have the goal to
49:01
create this lowcost scalable platform to enable an Out ofthe World Experience so
49:08
it's about incorporating the best elements of physical and virtual
49:11
realities to get the best of both worlds and there are already I mean it's a good
49:14
thing they've given themselves 15 years for this because there are already ways
49:19
to incorporate physical objects into a
49:22
VR space uh one of the ways I've seen it done is with tracking dots oh yeah yeah
49:27
yeah so you put these uh um there was actually a demo that I saw at the
49:31
Samsung developer conference where you basically put these like wire things
49:35
with reflective IR reflective dots on them so that the VR uh so like the room
49:40
scale VR cameras that are tracking you interesting can also track these objects
49:45
and know what they're supposed to be so the puzzle I solved was like an Indiana
49:49
Jones style you've done this move yeah um move the like move the stone idle
49:55
onto the correct and it was a real Stone Idol and also in the game yes that's
50:00
very cool like it felt like what I was looking at in VR why do they need
50:03
virtual reality for this um I mean I
50:07
mean they can't simulate uh zero gravity obviously unless you go on the vomit
50:11
Comet and then it's only like 90 seconds what are they simulating exactly so what
50:16
they're simulating is well they're making it more immersive because you
50:20
could make the argument but do you need that um yeah I think so well what I just
50:25
I don't know what they're doing with it so it's more versatile for one thing so
50:29
if you were to create a physical training set oh like a Hol deck oh now I
50:33
understand yeah so now you can do you
50:36
know Hol deck yeah there well the
50:40
explanation well if anybody hasn't watched Star Trek then why are you
50:43
watching the W show you're not enough of a nerd and as long as they have props
50:47
that are a reasonable fa simile of whatever it is they're trying to do a
50:50
training session on then they can actually change the functionality of the
50:54
room very easily and very quickly interesting there's there is a lot of potential here for sure so cool they
51:01
said that they're going to okay they said that the Johnson Space Center's
51:04
active response gravity offload system
51:07
Argos is um an excellent candidate to
51:11
combine this VR system with a way of creating a sense of weightlessness which
51:16
would be much easier when a user is in a
51:19
virtual environment than when they're in a room is that when they're swimming
51:23
around in the water um I'm actually it does to
51:27
simulate a no I think this is a different one so here we go this is a
51:30
picture of Argos right here a small robotic crane oh yeah yeah yeah I've
51:35
always wanted to to like jump around
51:38
with a small robotic crane getting rid of most of my body weight so in VR very
51:44
cool that'd be so so so awesome I would
51:47
I wish can we rig one of these up we we have we have beams up there I mean I
51:52
know NASA's budget has been cut it's still a lot more than ours we could
51:57
we could get a grant from NASA and let the astronauts come here to uh Siri BC
52:04
Siri BC quite a quite a ways from Houston let's see John uh John told me
52:09
he was going to Mark some of the topics that uh that he wanted to jump in on but
52:13
it looks like he actually did not well did not do that
52:17
well okay I have uh was there anything else that you wanted to that you want to
52:21
talk about NASA or just about other I
52:25
I'll look for one shall I but that that NASA thing is very cool I'd love to like
52:29
see like training videos of that to see what they do with it you know be very
52:35
cool I'm stoked on that kind of stuff all right so d d OnePlus is back in the
52:44
news H so the invite system is gone but
52:48
uh lo and behold original article here is from phonearena.com the phone sold so
52:55
well without the invite system that they actually have to Halt sales of the
53:01
OnePlus 3 for more than a month in 24
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countries so in order to build inventory back up sales will be halted starting
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August 9th at 6 p.m. eastern Daylight time until September 12th for Austria
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Belgium Bulgaria Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Estonia France Greece Hong Kong
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Hungary Ireland Italy laia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Portugal
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Poland Romania Slovakia Slovenia and Spain oh that's fascinating so if you
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place an order before the sales halt your phone will go out on the estimated
53:34
shipping date but uh in the meantime
53:38
they're just like yeah sorry we straight up do not have enough but we have one
53:43
don't we a OnePlus 3 yep yeah they sent us a review
53:47
sample um what you got oh oh sorry I wasn't paying attention uh you
53:52
to I was listening to you talk I I can't it's hard to listen to someone talk and
53:57
read at the same time which is why when you're editing a video you put as little
54:00
text on the screen as possible fun fact
54:03
all right our next story here is from DSL reports Comcast says it wants to
54:08
charge bron bron band Bron band I don't
54:13
even know what that accent was Broadband users more for privacy so Comcast this
54:18
week informed the FCC that it should be able to charge Broadband users looking
54:23
to protect their privacy
54:27
wow so the FCC has been crafting new privacy rules for Broadband that would
54:31
force isps to disclose exactly what they're collecting and selling it's
54:36
almost like the FCC is on the consumer side for a change oh wow imagine that um
54:42
and also working to provide optout tools
54:45
for customers can you just use a VPN and just get around all this
54:50
nonsense um it'll be a bit slower yes
54:53
and no more I'm not sure that it's a
54:56
perfect solution but yes it would get around a lot but then you're basically
55:00
paying for internet and then also extra internet on top of your internet so
55:03
basically you are paying more for additional privacy right but I wouldn't
55:08
trust Comcast at all ever so they're
55:12
going to say oh you have more privacy now because you pay more we'll be fine
55:17
like every time you see Comcast's name in the news it's something that they've
55:22
done to screw over their customers right so basically in the news today is them
55:28
saying it's well within our rights to screw over our customers so what they're
55:32
saying they're arguing that charging consumers more money to opt out of Snoop
55:37
advertising so collecting user data and selling it to advertisers should be
55:41
considered a perfectly acceptable business practice what I want to know is
55:45
where it came from in the first place like like when did I ever aside from you
55:51
know at the bottom of your statement oh by the way our terms of service have been updated yeah when did I ever say it
55:55
was in the first place when did this ever become the status quo no but that's
55:59
that you just explained it your their terms of service are sitting somewhere
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and you're just supposed to read them every time they've been updated and uh
56:08
and then be mad and then do nothing because Comcast is the only prider in
56:11
your area because they pushed out all the little guys so this is great and
56:14
then hope for Google Fiber they go on to say thanks Comcast a bargained for
56:19
exchange of information for service is a perfectly acceptable and widely used
56:23
model throughout the US economy including the internet e system here's
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what I want to know when did the bargaining take place and and where was
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the part where I got offered a
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discount oh that's what they're calling it now no no no no that's not what
56:39
they're calling it oh yeah oh yeah where was the part where I got offered a
56:43
discount in the first placeing when they started augmenting their revenue stream
56:48
that is the bill that I pay which I don't cuz I don't use Comcast it so it
56:54
would cost more without this exactly exctly which it wouldn't by the way yeah
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it's like it I I think about big picture
57:03
things like this sometimes where it's like a company can exist it it seems it
57:09
it feels like CU this is only the ones that you hear of in in two different
57:13
like diametrically opposed States either completely screwing over their customers
57:17
for as much money as they can possibly get and forcing their way into you know
57:23
politics and whatever or being really nice to their customers and customers
57:26
really like them and that's why they make a lot of money it seems like it's
57:29
only ever one or the other again probably because that's the only ones
57:32
you hear of but it's like how does a company like Comcast continue to exist
57:38
when all you ever hear about them is just pissed off people is it because
57:42
they have their fingers in all the politics where you have like it's
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ah it's like the human race makes
57:51
progress 10 steps forward nine steps back we're getting
57:56
there eventually but it's so frustrating to see the obvious answers to things
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just be ignored and it's like you know what don't screw over your customers and
58:06
they'll it'll be fine they'll be fine
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everything will work out in the end long term Comcast isn't even the first one to
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do this uh AT&T actually launched uh as a $30 or more premium if you wanted to
58:19
uh opt out of their internet preferences which is a deep packet inspection
58:23
program that tracks your bring Behavior around the internet so that was back in
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Austin in late 2014 when they launched their gigabit internet
58:37
service um oh I had picked something let
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me see here um the next Google Maps update could
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show how bad parking is yeah that would be actually very very useful uh I'm
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going to go ahead and pull up the original article here which is from Daily Mail while you go through this fun
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fact from my father who is a city planner
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every car that you add to like the
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general like a city requires seven parking spaces you don't have to justify
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that I know we we've had this conversation distributed across across
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the city because you have to park at home you have to park at the supermarket you have to park at the movie theater
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you have to park at the bar it's like seven on average like kind of moving
59:18
around a little bit you should be parking at the bar I don't carry on yes anyway uh leure
59:25
Center it that's just that's just a fun fact I actually haven't looked much into
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it I just believe my father when he says these things but I'll get more info on
59:32
that if it's disputed anyway let's see if Taran learns not to listen to his dad
59:37
before he turns 30 so I plan to lie to my kids about all
59:41
kinds of hilarious stuff you're a h okay
59:44
pull up the thing so people can look at it okay next Google Maps update can show
59:49
how bad parking is it's per currently in beta could include text based alerts
59:53
informing users to parking shortages at their Des destination oh that's great
59:57
cuz it already tells you if the store is going to be closed by the time you get there yep it's not always accurate but
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sure we'll allow for you to just these
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little comments man will allow for you to account for both traffic and parking
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scarcity at your destination service will likely be based on total number of
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spaces available in a given area taking into account time of day and nearby
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public events oh yeah cuz I went to the laundromat one day and it's like where's
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all the parking oh my goodness I can't get through um update also includes is a
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feature that will fix when you accidentally reorient the direction of
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the map what whatever keeping it always
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in point keeping it in always Point North mode no whatever more details to
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come I like that cuz I freaking hate that yeah yeah when I pinch to zoom in
60:42
or out and it's like no that's not how I
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want to look at it that's not just for the parking that's for the whole map
60:48
yeah okay well then that's great I was like why is it just for parking so I'm
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really interested to see how this impacts businesses m because in the in
60:57
the analog age people would just have to like remember oh there's not much
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parking on Robson during evening and on Sunday Costco in the evening is nuts
61:07
right you would just have to remember stuff like that but you know what if you
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drive a bike you never ever have these problems no one on earth drives a bike
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ride a bike um but now what you'll be
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able to do as a consumer so so like the digital consumer the millennial consumer
61:23
is going to all of a sudden start shifting business away like just Google
61:29
making this one update the millennial consumer is going to start going
61:34
somewhere else in the first place yeah for the sake of finding
61:38
easier parking I see it happening well you know what I do whenever I drive
61:43
anywhere which isn't often because I bike and whatever whatever but I will
61:47
always do Google Map instructions to my destination because it routes you around
61:52
traffic blockages in theory well I've had very good
61:56
luck with it for the most part I've had some experiences not that long ago
62:00
sitting in traffic with a red line
62:04
completely between me and my destination um do you remember that day tell you to
62:08
get off do you remember the day you guys did the Hot Dog Channel Super Fun hot
62:12
dog Olympics no I did wasn't I didn't participate in that oh okay well I was
62:16
trying to get back to the office and there was a massive accident oh yeah and
62:20
so I fired up Google Maps as I realized it was slowing down and it didn't I saw
62:24
a red line all the way so it knew it was taking a long time but my update like or
62:30
sorry my estimated time of arrival only ticked one minute for every minute that
62:34
passed like it didn't update to say that it was going to take longer you know
62:38
what at all the system is in in progress
62:42
they're working on it what can I say it
62:45
works better to have it open than to not have it so I'll always check I'll always
62:50
check with it avoided lots of congestion
62:53
that way jazz hands um I do have an update this
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is really important um Jaz because we
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talked about this on a previous WAN Show
63:05
and the facts of the matter are a little bit more complicated than they
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originally made out to be by some uh Western media Publications using vpns
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what UAE residents need to know so it's
63:21
not always illegal to be very clear that is not what happened sorry about that
63:26
um the legality actually hasn't changed and not all residents in the UAE who use
63:31
the technology could face imprisonment and fines so the confusion surrounding
63:36
the impact of the law stemmed from inaccurate reporting by Foreign news
63:39
websites according to a UAE based lawyer
63:42
so what has been amended in the cyber crime law is the amount of fines that
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offenders will face in addition to the existing provision on
63:53
imprisonment so senior associate at C Co
63:56
suggested so as a lawyer suggested that private individuals aside from corporate
63:59
organizations don't run the risk of going to jail and paying a fine as long as they don't use a VPN to commit a
64:04
crime oh that's all how would you know misuse of the technology may still be
64:09
punishable well basically what they're saying it basically what they're doing
64:13
is they're taking something that's very difficult to track and putting a
64:18
horrendous punishment on it oh good so they can make an example out of whoever
64:21
gets caught cuz it fines up to like half a million US Dollars and imprisonment
64:25
for like years so you just have to find a VPN that does not keep logs or at
64:31
least says that they does not keep logs
64:35
and who really knows with all the gag orders going around would you would you
64:39
how knowledgeable I am about something sort of would you bet half a million
64:43
dollars on any of that that's what they're that's what they're half a
64:46
million dollar fine that's what they want you to consider when you're like I
64:50
just want to you know pirat some movies or I could you know be in The Slammer
64:54
and I I mean there's been a lot of million there's been a lot of uh debate
64:59
about the sort of creating very very
65:03
harsh punishments for crimes um and
65:06
whether that makes more sense than Correctional Facilities especially
65:09
around the death penalty and and also just like a general little bit of a
65:13
punishment for everyone rather than a huge punishment for some people yeah but
65:17
the issue is catching them I guess so so there's been a lot of debate as to
65:21
whether a whether stiffer penalties
65:24
actually serve as a deterr
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well it's been it's been sort of demonstrated either way and it's an
65:37
ongoing debate because it especially centers around the death penalty right
65:41
yeah cuz yeah because there's no hope for rehabilitation with the death
65:44
penalty yeah like that's it so and basically they're saying that there's
65:48
you know oh well you should just make it the death penalty for everything because then no one will commit crimes because
65:53
they'll die there's a Star Trek episode about that exactly so this has been a
65:56
debate for decades literally decades um so I'm not sure if it'll end up working
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out for them in this case but I guess we shall find
66:04
out this gives me some Hope For Humanity Facebook has tweaked their algorithm to
66:09
show you less clickbait
66:12
woo so the original article here is from the BBC Facebook to suppress clickbait
66:18
stories and Facebook let me tell you when they want to suppress something man
66:24
do they know how to do that they suppress something so they created new
66:29
guidelines around sponsored posts that
66:32
make it so that we have to put hasht ad and we have to which was already the
66:36
case yeah we already did that but we also have to tag on Facebook the company
66:40
that sponsored it we have to tag their Facebook page okay and this is so that
66:44
Facebook can basically turn around and offer that company a chance to promote
66:49
that post oh yeah and what they do is
66:52
they bury those posts like just oh
66:56
because you put ad on them and because you put yeah yeah so they're making it
67:00
oh yeah so their terms of service is that we have to identify it we have to
67:04
identify who paid for it to them in a way that they can act on and then they
67:09
will just crush the reach of it there is a whole there's two videos by Derek of
67:15
veritasium that you can watch about it's called Facebook fraud where he talks
67:20
about promoting a a page promoting a
67:23
fake page and promoting his real page and how the more you pay in the more you
67:27
need to pay in uh there's just a huge
67:30
number of problems with this whole like Facebook incentivizing you having to pay
67:34
them money to get any kind of visibility it reminds me a lot of
67:39
microtransactions in games like Pokemon go for example where once you start
67:45
paying to play you pretty much are stuck paying forever and it's just like more
67:50
money and every single thing that you do pushes you more towards giving them
67:55
money and it's like that's not fun for anybody we paid for Facebook reach once
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did we y why did we do that I decided to try it what happened um we got a few
68:05
more views on the post and then it prompted me to pay more to get more
68:08
views oh what a surprise I just said that um and honestly compared to
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creating I mean this is something that I think for for Soulless imagination lless
68:18
companies might make sense to pay for reach but for Content creators where our
68:24
entire our entire business is making content that people actually care about
68:29
for Content creators it is much much cheaper and more effective to just make
68:34
good content yes uh the SEO thing for
68:38
this is content is King but it doesn't help us when they intentionally Crush
68:43
certain posts oh yeah well of course they will I mean they're just it's just
68:47
I mean I stopped doing Facebook stuff like ages ago like they're not cool I'm
68:52
surprised you ever Facebook used to be cool
68:56
in the chat tell us about when Facebook was cool it used to be cool hold on
69:01
we're going to just this nonsense we're going to St this hold on we're going to
69:05
stra pull this and they slow I don't remember what update it was I think it
69:09
was like the timeline update where I was like okay I'm I'm sick of this now I'm
69:13
not going to keep on going it was a great way to keep in contact with your
69:17
high school buddies like if you watch the movie um what is it called social
69:22
network or maybe the social network boom all right guys check it out check it out
69:26
Facebook used to be cool very cool in that movie twitch chat says
69:31
1990 uh icq was cool Myspace was cool it
69:36
was cool it was also stupid but it was also cool um 2006 2009 year 1800 this is
69:43
why we never consult twitch chat about anything by the way this is what you're
69:46
learning the hard way well what a they today what what do you know what do I
69:51
know I know not to ask twitch chat anything I was looking at the camera and
69:54
asking that all right 55% of people are saying Facebook was
69:59
cool ah with 45% on my team oh well you
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didn't add turnup in there so I think all the trolls are on your team the
70:07
trolls are not on my team yeah they they like trolls are never on my team yeah
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they do not like me well okay the trolls love to hate on me it was
70:17
cool all right well thank you very much do you want to throw uh John in here cuz
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there were a couple of things that I wanted presumably
70:26
I'm bringing my m& I'm going to jump right into our next topic here Euro oh
70:30
thank you look it's like it's like a little &m
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Santa the M&M are a little salty I can't tell if that's like sweat or
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not
70:43
anyway original article here is from eurogamer.net Hi l hey how's it going
70:49
hey everyone we have so many hosts today I actually like this which one am my
70:53
number three you're number three yeah
70:56
the Xbox One S has a performance boost and it has
71:01
been revealed and it has apparently been benchmarked by eurogamer.net have you
71:06
looked into this one at all no I haven't I think all the most of the topics I
71:10
wanted to do you do with tan so you didn't mark them I said I put them near
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the top oh I yeah I I didn't know if
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near the top meant at the top or like at the top next time put John I'm sorry John
71:24
it's fine that's fine and we can talk about the Xbox One S let's do it so it
71:28
was released August 2nd has a GPU clock speed of 914
71:32
MHz wow how many wow Vancouver 914 MHz
71:39
okay that's up from 853 on the older version it supports 4K as well as HDR
71:45
media and gaming it's amazing what you can do with uh what is that 61 MHz these
71:52
days who made the GPU do we know uh it's still still AMD okay uh 4K Ultra HD
71:58
Blu-ray and 4K video streaming are supported that's a positive that's a
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plus HDR supported for games and video I just said that I okay notes are
72:07
redundant important Note HDMI 2.0 will
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not be included so 4K is only available and up to 30 FPS so still even now
72:16
they're not putting HDMI 2 no when is this coming out so the thing to bear in
72:21
mind is that this is based on an
72:24
AMD oh I forget what the architecture it's but it's gcn whatever whatever
72:29
revision uh which did not support so it's like a generation too old so it's a
72:33
generation it's a gener yeah I think it's two two architectural Generations
72:38
old but depending on how you divide up AMD's lineup given that they have
72:43
products that are literally three generations old still in their lineup and they've been rebadged that have been
72:47
rebadged it's really really hard to draw a clear a clear line it upscales 1080P
72:53
or other content to 4K and Microsoft say some games ones that utilize Dynamic
72:58
resolution and or unlocked frame rates may see a very minor performance
73:02
Improvement our testing internally has shown this to be pretty minor and is
73:06
only measurable on certain games so we didn't want to make it a selling point
73:09
for the new console so yeah upscaling hasn't been a selling
73:14
point for a while on basically anything so
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consoles is
73:23
this what do you think of the Xbox One
73:26
S what's the price point do we know yeah
73:30
it's out isn't it I don't know I don't care I have no idea what the price point
73:33
is I'm sorry I pay I pay so little
73:36
attention dbrand actually contacted me
73:39
um recently asking if I wanted an Xbox One S with their skin on it for a review
73:44
and I was like oh when's it coming he was like like I have it I'm like oh okay
73:51
sorry so are we just giving this a gigantic a gigantic shrug and then I
73:56
move on to there was one that I really wanted to talk to you about it was the
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6% Netflix tax for Pennsylvania right
74:04
well I mean you know people compare the console
74:07
and the PC space so much but I mean I really feel like consoles or for a
74:11
different type of consumer they just want to plug something in and go for it
74:15
and they don't care whoa oh that is so much better why was this up here Taran
74:19
put it there yeah thank you jeez what
74:23
are we going to do with that guy you tell me but he I don't know but uh so I
74:28
mean in that vein I guess it would make I I think if you're in the console
74:33
Market the price it might matter like a little bit less like oh you can get so
74:37
much more performance on a PC for this amount of money but at the same time if
74:40
you're saying oh I just want something I can plug in and go with and not have to
74:44
worry about drivers or putting anything together and I want it to do 4K then
74:49
there we go so basically the Xbox One S is just another console to you it
74:53
doesn't matter that it's smaller or or like 60 MHz faster all right serious
74:59
question let's move on to this one's pretty
75:02
interesting there will be a 6% Netflix
75:06
tax for citizens of
75:10
Pennsylvania USA so you want to want to walk us
75:14
through this the doc's here by the way so it's Netflix it's Hulu it's Spotify
75:19
if you have a um if you have like a Spotify Premium subscription so
75:24
basically all stuff is going to get taxed now any kind of streaming media
75:28
thing so see what I want to understand is what
75:33
would be the justification for attacks on streaming
75:38
media the state might be broke like a lot of the states
75:41
are hey here's an easy way to make money let's just tax this thing that everyone
75:45
else is watching instead of paying for cable so really that do you think it's
75:50
that simple so do you think it's as simple as them not get okay a cable
75:55
subscription is closer to $100 a month right do you think it's as simple as
76:00
them not getting there and I'm going to throw an arbitrary number because sales
76:03
tax varies wildly from state to state and even within Canada actually we'll
76:07
real quick for you that it says right here done to help offset a$ 1.3 billion
76:11
hole in the state budget okay there you have it but please continue so do you
76:15
think this is as simple enough a calculation that we could just go okay
76:19
so a cable bill used to be $100 a month and let's say they had a
76:23
10% uh you know know sales tax and so they get 10 bucks for your cable bill so
76:28
as people stop spending money on cable and they start buying Netflix subscriptions for $7 or $8 a month now
76:34
they have to just charge like a $7 or $8 Levy to make up the difference I mean is
76:39
that what's happening here I don't know I mean you already get
76:43
stuck with like however many SE charges on your cable bill they might not call
76:47
them taxes but they're often like government fees or like something or
76:51
another so I don't know I think I think
76:55
States recently have gotten very very upset when there's certain things that
76:59
people just buy just like you would buy anything else with or just how you would
77:02
buy anything else and they don't get don't get a cut of the taxes for it like
77:07
crossb shopping yes online yeah back in North Carolina where I'm from they
77:11
recently started having the Amazon tax they call it a use tax but it's really
77:15
just another sales tax where if you get an Amazon receipt and they didn't charge
77:19
you tax on it you're supposed to supposed to every year say oh I bought
77:25
$30 worth of Widgets or toilet paper or
77:28
whatever else from Amazon and and so you owe the state like you know a dollar or
77:33
two on your tax return but almost Nobody Does it it's kind of a joke but they
77:36
still try I mean that's the thing that's going to make that that makes law so
77:41
complicated in the United States because that's what it is it's a United States
77:46
it's not it it's okay don't take this the wrong way but it's not as much of a
77:52
country as it is you're a glomerate of
77:56
like city states but but like actual States cities that's part of part of why
78:01
the Civil War happened talking about it for a long time so yeah it's not like
78:05
America's happy about this situation either so so I mean here in Canada it
78:11
got as it was as simple as the federal government said no this will not fly
78:17
this happened about four or five 5 years ago oh they tried to attack streaming
78:20
services up here did that happen no not streaming services um crossb uh crossb
78:25
online and basically what they did is
78:28
they put Theus on the retailer they said okay well fine NCI you're located in
78:33
British Columbia good for you you are now responsible for collecting
78:37
provincial sales tax from every Province and submitting that to those provinces
78:43
done and it was implemented within I think about a year that seems a lot
78:48
simpler but I don't know I don't know if it's just because we have so many more
78:52
people or what but um but I I also
78:56
understand what you're saying you know the federal character of the US and oh
78:59
like every state needs to decide how they're going to try to get their cut so
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very very interesting to me yeah it's not going to come out to be a ton of
79:06
money like if you pay for you know if you send what like 10 bucks a month on a
79:09
Netflix subscription over the course of a year that doesn't work out to be a
79:12
whole lot but still you know there's going to be people who are angry about
79:16
that you know so all right well I actually don't have
79:20
that much left I'm I'm sorry I screwed up and did the topics that you wanted to
79:24
help earli on in the show next time we do this I'll I'll make it more clear is
79:29
there anything else you wanted to jump through did we talk about the set top box thing from the cop no we didn't
79:33
actually we can do that one as our last topic sure uh hold on let me just pull
79:37
it up here set oh crap contrl F set is
79:42
not the best um offset set toop there we go all right so the original article
79:46
here is from RS Technica I'm just going to pull this up while John walks you
79:49
guys through what's going on with this this baby right here oh gra as soon as
79:52
you said it my like Google doc jumped everywhere but let's find it again okay
79:57
so I'll start oh there we go okay okay go ahead okay so right now there's a
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dispute between the SEC and the US copyright office about whether cable
80:07
companies should be forced to unlock their set toop boxes so right now if you
80:11
have a cable subscription at least in the US you get like a little box that sits either above or below your TV you
80:16
hook it up with an HDMI cable but everything that comes into the box is
80:20
copy protected in some form or another so it's not like in the good old days
80:24
where we could just have a VCR record anything you want to onto a blank tape
80:28
um is you can't just you know plug in a USB sticker a computer and say okay
80:32
record to be clear there are ways around it there are ways around it but if
80:35
you're just trying to do it without implementing any kind of you know
80:39
subversion mechanism or whatever then yeah you can't do it so and it is
80:42
illegal to copy encrypted content but
80:45
that's a whole other conversation yes it is okay so basically what's so what's
80:49
going on now so they're trying to Wrangle over whether they're going to
80:54
adopt this this um SEC rule um the SEC
80:57
is being a little bit more Pro consumer in this case they want to force the
81:00
cable companies to say yo you have to unlock your setti boxes so if a paying
81:05
customer wants to watch whatever it is Game of Thrones whatever else um and
81:10
they're not in front of their TV at the time it's being shown but they also they
81:15
want to watch it like somewhere else they don't want to DVR it they have to
81:18
let the consumer be able to do that right and the copyright office is saying
81:22
no we can't because Zer just going to crap all over the copyright owner's
81:26
rights and there's no way there's no way to like license us out correctly and all
81:30
this other stuff um so they're try they're trying to figure that out right
81:33
now so ah and I mean you got to remember too
81:38
that the cable providers are obviously going to be putting pressure on anyone
81:43
that they possibly can to salvage more ways for them to make Revenue I mean if
81:47
they could sell the ability to stream it to your phone to yourself while it's
81:52
happening while you're on the bus I'm sure theyd love to do that don't don't
81:55
some of them already do that I believe so yes yeah like the on demand video and all that but they're trying to they're
81:59
trying to like increase or the SEC rule is designed to try to increase
82:03
flexibility for cable customers and I remember that well I don't remember
82:07
because I was either not alive or very young with this happened but we actually
82:11
studied this a little bit in law school when the uh VCR came out and that was
82:16
like the latest and greatest thing uh TV
82:19
TV studios and movie studios and cable providers were concerned that oh this is
82:24
going to lead incredibly rampant copyright infringement this is going to
82:27
just you know undermine the entire system so it end up going to court and
82:32
we all kind of know how that turned out people used VCRs anyway to record URL or
82:37
whatever people watched back in the 90s and everything was okay the show is
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called Family Matters and people were still buying cable subscriptions so this
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is this is kind of similar but I think here the concern might be a bit
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different because back in the '90s you weren't just going to send out 2 million
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free copies of a TV show because you felt like it but these days it takes
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that amount of time to upload something onto the internet so and it's also a lot
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more user friendly to record these days um like back then you had to you had to
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hover over your VCR and what's the difference between LP and EP I don't
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know what this is oh no Long play versus
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extended play why are they named like
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this um so I think that's pretty much it
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for the W show then guys thank you very much for tuning in thanks to our special
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guest joined us John Taran and Nick
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actually I don't want to thank Taran thanks to our special guests who joined us John and Nick and uh Taran was here
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too and we will see you again next week there goes the train same bat Time same
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bat
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Channel there goes that training fantastic always it is really
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nice uh it is really nice streaming
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without any technical difficulties I'm really
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yeah I can't believe closer to on time than I have
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expl why say
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that and just like I've got everything working now and the stream computer
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isn't being flaky so like volume is all leveled correctly before the show starts
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that's good good