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in the warehouse and does and pushes things around and uh just you know does

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whatever it is that he's doing right now I don't I don't even know what their

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and uh I'm not going to worry too much about it yes the W show is less than 20

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on making sure that everything was functioning correctly so that's why we

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are less late than we otherwise would have been yeah and Colton was like oh

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man the W might be on time today lonus is working on it at like 1:00 Colton is

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Young and naive stupid no just that's

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that was rude stupid he's not stupid he just hasn't learned yet that the way and

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all right so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today Luke's actually on vacation he's over in London

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working on some kind of high technology

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product launch I'm fairly certain we signed an NDA so I'm just not going to

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say yeah don't don't talk about that anything about it nothing about it other

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than that he's there he's doing a thing and I'm sure if your Google fu is strong

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you can figure out out what he's doing and what it has to do with but he's

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taking a few days off before the event and in the meantime I am stuck back here

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in Canada literally unplugging and

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plugging in USB connections thousands of

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times that is what I spent the last hour and a half or so working on is it micro

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b yes so oh so that's your own personal hell that is yes basically well it's

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only half hell because the other half is Type C so I tease this on social Med a

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little while ago but I'm actually going to be doing a head-to-head comparison of

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times so we got a lot of great topics for you guys today uh first up the

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Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has been announced

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reviewed and benchmarked that is to say

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it's not called the XP right it's just the X right no it's called the Titan

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XP anyway um so Microsoft pitches

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technology that can read facial expressions at political rallies so uh

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do okay so uh question do they aim them at the politicians or at the audience at

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the audience oh cuz I was thinking aiming them at the politicians might

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actually be a lot more useful it' be like a lie detector that would be like

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an actual you know Boon to society

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whereas this is just let's figure out who doesn't agree with dear leader and

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uh and we'll get him out of here actually would it be helpful to tell us

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that politicians are just lying the whole time I mean we already know that

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in theory I mean what else we got what else we got we'll talk about it in more

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depth later um the world's first programmable quantum computer is

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apparently a thing I haven't actually read anything about this topic so uh

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Colton I checked it I think it's the right one it works there's no

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weirdness yeah

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I think they should actually change their slogan to that it should just be

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wo all right all right guys so why don't we

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jump right into our first topic here today the Galaxy S7 has launched our

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original article here did I say Galaxy S7 see this is where I run into trouble

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this is where or this is where Samsung gets me into trouble by having multiple

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devices that are very very similar so

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the original article here is from Anon Tech at least I think it is it's hard to

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tell with all the soft layer ads on all

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sides of the uh on all sides of the website dang I'm pretty sure I'm pretty

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sure it's an ontech shot shots shots fired although those those who those who

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uh what is it live in Glass Houses something something Rock don't don't

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those who live in Glass Houses sink ships or something yeah I'm pretty sure

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it goes something along those lines and especially with our resident ad man

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me it probably doesn't make sense for us to be to be too critical of ads but uh

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so what is there to say but oh so usually the co-host job is to take the

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link to the original article and posted in the twitch chat wait you actually

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expect me to do stuff while I'm sitting here yeah that's what I thought I sign

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up for that that's what I thought was going to happen I thought you were going to say things and do things I didn't

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sign up for that um so basically it's

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about as similar to any S Class product

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that we have pretty much ever seen so spec-wise you're getting a Snapdragon

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technology wait yeah we missed the Note 6 yeah I just realized that you didn't

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realize no I actually I I I pay so little attention to the note lineup

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releases a new line of like Magnum condoms okay so they've got like the

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Magnum X and they've got the Magnum XL and they've got the Magnum XP or

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whatever are you really paying attention the Titan Magnum

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at some point uh over the next little bit here and I'll say my usual thing I'm

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going to say it's a big Galaxy S7 and it's too big literally now they called

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it the Note 7 to line up with the S7 um

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so stay tuned for that or don't bother it's totally up to you uh but there are

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some unique things so the SP pen now

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and not just the canned ones when you click the thing you can make your own um

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you cannot put the Spen into the phone backwards anymore which isn't to say you

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which isn't to say you couldn't before the problem wasn't putting it in it was

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say you couldn't get it back up

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yes this is cool it's ip68 so that's uh

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dust and water resistant yeah um with

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pretty cool anytime you open up a large hole in an object you are

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significantly um reducing its Ingress

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Protection ability so that's pretty cool and this is the big one Samsung has

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introduced Iris authentication with the

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node 7 so I obviously haven't used it I

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haven't seen it in action I will definitely be commenting on that but I

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do have an initial important question

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and we will debate this and I want to hear from you guys on this I'm going to

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go ahead and create a straw pole right now do you feel like Irish

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protection hold on I'm just going to

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type as I go do you feel like Iris protection is a any more convenient or

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B any more secure than fingerprint

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H do you want me to give my opinion now or should we wait for the hit it I

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be more issues with Iris protection at least at first right because at this

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point the sample size from the public on fingerprint is so massive mhm so obvious

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viously Iris has to be at a certain level in order for them to even have it

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on this but I mean I would be a little

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bit hesitant at least at first like first generation of it for the public

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obviously it's been on other stuff in the past um but in terms of something as

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ubiquitous as a note series

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smartphone my my take on it is that

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anything anything camera Reliant from my

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experience you know going back and Sam Samsung Samsung does this kind of thing

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to themselves um anything camera reliant on a Samsung

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phone and whether you want to talk Smart Stay uh where the screen stays on if

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you're looking at it or if you want to talk about um what was it I think they

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had like uh like hand gestures that you could do to take pictures with the

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selfie camera Samsung's had a Samsung's had a lot of motion and Camera

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controlled features most of which have been abs abolute garbage and just plane

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haven't worked very well and people are saying it is a sensor on its own so it

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uses IR as well so that's good see this is why it's important for me to read

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twitch chat instead of just going on and on forever but anything okay so with the

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exception of the touch sensor anything Samsung's done that's like like a a a

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biometric or or natural human interaction thing has been either cludy

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or basically not worked at all from my EXP experience so I am

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both excited and also very skeptical to

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see how well this works because it's all fine and good if it works on you know a

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brightly lit show floor or if it works in at during the day but is this the

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kind of thing that's going to work dur at night and if it doesn't I so it

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should theoretically it should theoretically um or is it going to work

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when there or is it going to work I mean that's here that's another interesting

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point of part of the conversation is it going to work where there's a lot of ir

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pollution yeah like let's say you're on the CES show floor is there going to be

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too much pollution I don't know I don't know so and the question that I have

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that we have to answer then is if it doesn't work all the time if it isn't

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bulletproof and quite frankly I'd say the first generation of touch ID was

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pretty good and now it's gotten to the point where phones are coming out

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whether it's the axm 7 uh whether it's the Galaxy S7 uh whether it's the iPhone

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6s phone are coming out now where fingerprint detection is so fast and so

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accurate like even if your fingers are a little bit damp that I almost always use

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it I use it all the time I don't have to think about it until Iris detection gets

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that good I don't personally feel like it is going to be more secure or more

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convenient because as it is you could make the argument that

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someone could steal your fingerprints I mean they did it on MythBusters you could make the argument someone can

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steal your fingerprint they create um a

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rubber mold and then or a silicone mold and then they can they can spoof it in

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fact I believe it's been faked on uh on phones already

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so arguably fingerprint is not the most

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secure thing it's much more difficult to extract someone's eyeball right however there there have

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to be other spoofing measures though that's still pretty difficult that's

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still pretty difficult to do the fingerprint sort of creation thing I

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think if someone is that determined they're probably just going to put a gun

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to your head and tell you to unlock the phone anyway so I don't personally

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believe it adds a lot of security and I also don't personally believe it adds

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any convenience if anything I see that being less convenient because I don't

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know about you but my phone's already unlocked by the time I get it in front

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of my face yeah a lot of the time not

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this one because the ax 7 you can't use the fingerprint sensor as a lock button

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actually wait yes you can okay sorry I was wrong it didn't do it a second ago

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there you just have to wait a little bit longer when you do that but it's really

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fast when you press the lock button initially um but on the S7 where the

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lock button is on the front and it is like what I reach for first when I pull

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it out of my pocket it's unlocked well before it ever reaches my face in the

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first place so I don't really see that being a huge factor for me let's go

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ahead and check out the results here's a bit of a tangent but

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what what if they were to use something like an IR sensor to try to inhibit

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stuff like texting and driving

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where like if there's some type of a gyrometer or Gyro or whatever in your

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phone yeah that is like you're moving at a certain speed you have to use your IR

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sensor so you can't just unlock your phone when it's like down here by your

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phone manufacturer because okay so the cold hard truth is that people are going

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to they're going to do it okay okay the cold hard truth is that phone

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manufacturers aren't going to start interfering with dangerous user

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practices that inconvenience the user that wants to do it unless they're

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mandated by law yeah so I don't see that happening I don't see it happening

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either that was just like what if like I'm just trying to think of a scenario

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where this could be potentially positive like I could see that being an app that

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like a parent might install but I mean okay you know I'm I'm sure twitch chat

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is telling us like stuff like this exists where it knows if you're driving

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that uh the phone shouldn't work like it's the kind of thing I could see parents installing on their kids phones

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yeah so that's something I could also see it being useful and uh we so we've

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got uh we've got the results from our straw pole here where people are saying

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for the most part uh not more convenient or more secure with about 40% of you

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that they think it will be more convenient and more secure so one way

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that it could add security would be if Samsung allows us to require both a

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fingerprint and an iris scan yeah but I'm again I haven't had my

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hands on the phone I haven't looked into this a lot um so stay tuned I I will be

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covering it that will come later we'll see how it goes all right the uh Titan XP reviews

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it wrong they missed they missed the PE on it they missed the PE dude ah they

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missed the PE all right so did you copy that into the twitch chat thank you so

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all right I actually talked about this um PC perr was live streaming on their

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way down to like Quake con or something I actually forget where they were going

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have no idea anyway the point is PC per was on their way down to a land event

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and they randomly shout randomly called me and uh speaking of using your phone

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speaker of that phone held up against the microphone of another phone that he

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was periscoping from that he was he was actually he was only streaming audio so

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he was okay audio streaming from that one and I didn't know this until the end

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of the of the talk let's let's give sh the benefit of the dope maybe he had a

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hands-free solution going on we don't have video proof of any of this and

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maybe someone else was driving maybe someone else was driving someone else

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was holding the phones maybe PC per makes so much that he has a dedicated

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chauffeur okay maybe that's it maybe shrout's just a baller all right could

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be so anyway I was talking to shroud about this and the way that NVIDIA

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handled the Titan X launch I was kind of

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I pitched this to him and he kind of went yeah I don't know sounds plausible

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enough but I doubt he knows one way or the other and if he did I'm sure it

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would get someone at NVIDIA in trouble for him knowing uh but I was just like

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you know what it seems like happened here Jensen basically woke up poured a

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bowl of cereal for breakfast or whatever it is that bazillion eat yeah was

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sitting there eating it went I'm going to launch the Titan X today yeah yeah I

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I said that to you earlier this week yes that's kind of how it looks like to me

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that this went down because there was

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there were no materials sent to reviewers we got an email I think like

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10 minutes before being like hey just FYI Titan X is going on in 10

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minutes good luck we didn't get an NDA

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nope we actually I don't think we ever signed an NDA nope it was 10 minutes

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before launch um so so but but well the announcement the announcement prior to

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the lunch the announc announ so we never had an NDA at any point prior to the

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lunch and there's a reason for that and the reason for that is that um so some

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people got their Titan XPS the morning

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of the launch that night at 9:00 p.m. Pacific time we didn't get ours until

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noon about or Tuesday after the day of

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the launch and I'm kind of sitting here going like honestly I haven't talked to

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anyone at NVIDIA about this yet but when I do it's not going to be a happy

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conversation I'm going to kind of explain a little something I'm going to

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say okay so look you gave us nine hours of which only six of them are working

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hours because we're running a real company we're not like a guy in a

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basement with nothing to do until NVIDIA

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you know decides to bestow upon us a

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graphics card that we have the privilege of covering um and and I mean to be

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clear yes we do appreciate getting Hardware from manufacturers so that we

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can have timely coverage of it but the way that that normally works is we get

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it with enough time to do coverage of it so in this case we got six actual

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working hours of which let's do the math backwards okay of which I'd say about 15

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minutes of it goes into actually like filling out all the fields on YouTube

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yeah okay about 5 minutes of it goes into uploading it about half an hour to

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45 minutes of it is exporting it from Premiere assuming we only have to do

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that once which sometimes we don't like 20 minutes waiting for it to process on

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YouTube yep 20 minutes waiting for it to process on YouTube so we've already we've already used up well over an hour

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of our of our six hours okay so just saying the these are things that

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happened um editing it takes about 6

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hours okay benchmarking it takes another

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you know probably four to six depending

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on the depth and for something like XP we would have liked to do more

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benchmarks because NVIDIA has come out and said this is not just a gaming card

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it's like machine learning deep learning that stuff yeah so we've never

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benchmarked a card for deep learning before it's never come up so it's the

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kind of thing where there's a bit of a learning curve so let's say there's a few hours of actually figuring out how

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to Benchmark the thing in the first place um aside from that there's

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actually you know usually attending a briefing call so that you have some idea

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what the crap is going on not that I think there was get like a white paper

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or anything no I don't believe there was a reviewer guide for it um you know so

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usually there's some time spent reviewing the reviewer guide actually no

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maybe he got it the morning of something like that anyway the point is it was not

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actually possible oh yeah oh yeah shooting b-roll so this is another

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challenge because theoretically you could shoot

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Boll like on the Fly while someone is working on editing in a linear fashion

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through the video and we've actually done that before yeah the is that there

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is absolutely no way to shoot Boll of the card while it's being

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benchmarked well you could get Boll of it on the on the test

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bench Brandon how long does it take to do b-roll of a graphics card uh if I'm

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doing it quickly four hours so Brandon figures he

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could speed through one in four hours but that probably assumes that Brandon's

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working on one of those uh endless streams of identical cards do you

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remember when we did like three wind Force cards in a span of two weeks I've

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seen the Force card more than they think I've seen anything yeah good old

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windforce so basically NVIDIA gave us a

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literally impossible goal of having a video up on time for this launch it was

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very frustrating but there's good news now

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that I'm done renting about how they really should organize themselves a

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little bit better I mean it's funny because between them and AMD actually um

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I I don't think I can't talk about that one yet or is that one launched I don't

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know when the NDA is for that it might have been I don't know

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like the last couple weeks of graphics

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cards deliveries and stuff has been like

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okay yeah the rx470 Embargo is lifted so that was another one where our rx470

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arrived today our official one we actually already had one from someone

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else but we didn't have our rever guide and we didn't have a driver yet so this

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is funny to me 1080 rx480

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very organized events around them yeah yeah

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relatively speaking like they were talking to us about rx480 launch a month

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before three weeks or three weeks before like we were we were organizing stuff um

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that's three weeks before the event which was a month and a half or something before the launch yes and then

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1080 uh to a lesser degree NVIDIA does the whole like Cloak and Dagger we are

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NVIDIA we are like super secret business

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bro they they do that a little bit more than AMD does um at least intentionally

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so in the case of both titanex and rx470

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it's just amazing the contrast it's like did they spend all the budget or spend

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all the time organizing these launches and then just kind of go oh yeah I guess

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there's like other stuff too like I really decide I really don't understand

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this launch sequence like it almost feels

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like I don't know it almost feels like r x480 was

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announced and then they were like oh crap like we got to do 1080 very soon

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then and then it wasn't rx40 wasn't what they were expecting so then just this

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Landslide happened because like there was misinformation or something and

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someone thought they were going to be competing with someone else in a similar price point and then they weren't so

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then they had to match up which then caused the other team to keep going

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forward if that makes sense like it just feels very disorganized this time around

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all all right so let's talk facts about Titan XP it features a 16 NM gp102 GPU so this

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is very close to the Pascal GPU we've

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been introduced to in the Tesla lineup but not quite the same thing it's got

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3584 Cuda course so when you compare that to the Titan X the previous card uh

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when you compare that to the titanex it had 2560 so this is a very significant

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uptick in Cuda cor and that pretty much comes from the process node TR I think

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that may have supposed to be that that was probably supposed to be GTX 1080 I

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think oh is that 1080 I believe so o I can't remember anyway it has 224 texture

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units 96 RS a base clock of 1417 MHz and

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a boost clock of 1531 with Hardware Canucks actually managing to get it to

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overclock to a continuous like holding steady frequency of 1923 MHz yeah the

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old old Titan X had 3072 3072 thank you

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yeah all right so it's got 12 gigs of GDDR 5x RAM so we

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did not see hbm2 again this is a downgrade from the Tesla card and it's

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clocked at 10 GHz quad data rate and a 384-bit memory bus for a total of 480

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gabes per second of memory bandwidth and a 250 watt TDP so once again NVIDIA has

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one of the hottest cards on the market it's funny people give AMD a lot of crap

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for having really hot cards y the difference is that when comes to

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Performance per watt uh the Titan X

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really does come through so it's about 20% faster than even non-reference 1080s

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in some titles and as far as single gpus go it is King I was actually talking to

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shred about this too but it's gotten to the point where on the like performance

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charts in their reviews it's like Nidia land and then

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like a like it's gotten to the point where AMD

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has like it's you give it enough if they

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keep up the way that they're going you give it another couple of generations

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like this AMD may find themselves a full

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generation behind Invidia while NVIDIA sells graphics cards at a whopping

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$1,200 a pop that's insane lining their

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pockets stuffing the coffers and giving

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them more money to spend on R&D to cycle

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faster and faster and faster this is a troubling time a very

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troubling time because NVIDIA could

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easily slash the pricing of their lineup

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and make it very difficult to recommend buying an AMD card but NVIDIA is not

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really not really prone to do that they tend to wait until AMD puts actual

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pressure on them to drop the price so instead they're sitting there

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accumulating massive amounts of money to spend on basically you know whatever is

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the next technology they're going to introduce whether it's gam stream or

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gsync or whatever else that makes it so that at least some gamers are going to

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look at this card versus that card and go well this isn't even a decision

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because AMD straight up doesn't have feature X Y or Z I love how

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like you say things like NVIDIA cards are performing better right now and

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people in twitch chat call you an NVIDIA shell that's just the facts I don't make

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the rules yo we're not saying like they're better in performance per dollar

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although in some cases I think the no no no the rx40 was better than 1060 in

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performance per dollar I can't remember um but it's just the facts

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like yeah some people so uh rage

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something in twitch chat says NVIDIA won't let AMD go bankrupt I'm actually

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not convinced that's anything to do with the motivation at this point um I think

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it's just a matter of not not wanting to sell computer hardware at low margins um

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not wanting to constantly iterate on new silicon as fast as they possibly can the

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way that they were doing you know back in the mid 2000s and it's a matter of

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just being happy to sit and make ample

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margin and happy to have AMD sit there

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as a measuring stick for why Enid's

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graphics cards are worth a lot

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more trouble in time

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so yeah just the the $200 price hike is

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what really gets me it's just it's the same as the 6950x it's like we're

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charging this because we can so I actually thought that there was some

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justification for the $200 price hike yeah and I went back in time I may have

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actually done this on W show when the Titan XP was first announced um so I

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went back in time and adjusted for inflation like I found super crazy

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stupid Halo products from you know 15

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years ago and compared them and the $200

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price hike was definitely still unjustified but it's not as unjustified

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as the $700 price hike on the 6950x but

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I can talk more about that one actually now I've I've been working on a pretty

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interesting video that that okay that does don't spoil anything but I won't

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but that does put that price hike into a

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more yeah it puts it into a different perspective for me so anyway one thing

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that we're ignoring when we say NVIDIA is jacking the price etc etc is that R&D

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costs are going up Generation by generation R&D processes are going up at

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the manufacturing level so at Global foundaries tsmc Intel and at the chip

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design level Pascal is a more

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complicated more difficult to design product than Maxwell than keer and etc

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etc etc um back to Intel's price hike on

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the 10 Core Extreme

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Edition basically it's a

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Zeon so where it comes from is not

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wanting to cannibalize Zeon because when I was working on my what CPU should I

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buy video MH I actually worked into my

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comparative sheet I worked all the everything from cerons all the way up to

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the $7,000 four-way uh E5 or or E7 series

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zon or is it E5 4000 any I forget I

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forget the nomencl is either way don't worry about it anyway I worked in the

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whole thing and what I realized is that aside from the

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6800k which is priced more like a

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desktop chip and I think the reason for that is because they kneecapped its PCI

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Express Lanes making it suitable for desktop use even to a SLI which is all

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we recommend around here but not really suitable for Server use where many many

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expansion cards is much more likely to be a thing except for the 6800k there is

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basically an equivalent Zeon in the current generation and you can look back

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at the previous generation and go yeah that was kind of the one that that was a successor to too okay so they pretty

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much pric them like overclockable zons that don't have ECC

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and you are paying a slight premium for the Zeon because it has ECC so it can

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handle server memory okay and that's it that's basically that was the logic do I

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like it no yeah the issue is now is that they're

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labeling it as a core i7 and they're trying to sell it to Consumers obviously

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very high end consumer at a server price at a server price and the other thing

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that bothers me here too is not necessarily what they've done on the

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extreme Edition side because quite frankly I've never recommended an

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extreme Edition to anyone I've never recommended that someone buy an extreme

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Edition it has not happened and that was true when they were $1,000 and it's true

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today now that they're $1,700

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so doesn't matter to me it didn't make it any more or less likely that I would

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recommend one um to me the part that I find more objectionable is that Intel

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has been in in in the range that I

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actually expect people to buy so that's on the consumer platform the consumer

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chipset and socket M they've been selling us quad cores for 10

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years q6600 turned

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10 or actually no not quite sorry sorry not quite 10 we'll turn 10 within a year

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and that's like still a sort of relevant

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ship sort of it's like somewhat usable so q6600 was launched at around

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$700 but within about again about a year

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was down to pretty similar to what you'd pay for a 6700k today so you could get a

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kind of not quite Enthusiast blah blah extremo Edition quad core for basically

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you're paying for it today almost 10 years ago I think consumers should be

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getting a six core I don't see a reason

447
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,720
why the Enthusiast range goes from six to eight and consumers are still stuck

448
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,919
with aqu quad I mean I do see a reason because they've had more emphasis on

449
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better onboard Graphics which I could end up completely eating my words you

450
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know 5 years from now when those chips with the better onboard Graphics are

451
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just you know blowing through video rendering or or you know uh encryp tasks

452
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:05,840
or whatever the case may be using that GPU power but for now putting onboard

453
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:10,839
graphics on a 6700k just makes me kind of feel bad

454
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:14,839
when it could have just had more cores or more

455
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:18,960
cash yeah you got to remember your perspective though as someone who always

456
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:23,800
puts a dedicated graphics in a machine yeah like a lot of people a lot of

457
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:28,560
people don't need more than four cores for the little amount of gaming and you

458
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:30,839
know voice Comm and and music that they're going to be running right that's

459
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true and especially when you factor in hyperthreading yeah I just feel like if

460
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,480
they could give us four cores nine years ago then why can't they give us a couple

461
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,560
more today I'm sure that they could I mean and they are higher performance

462
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:47,480
cores actually Anon Tech did a great article comparing modern CPUs to uh

463
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,960
conro okay it's worth having a look at you guys should check it out anyway but

464
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go ahead yeah I just I don't know I feel like they're trying to Target someone

465
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who isn't you with the foure which is probably Smart in all

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honesty so it so so basically what you're saying is that it's no freaking

467
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mystery that I'm salty because I'm not the target market for the reasonably

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priced one essentially yeah

469
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essentially well all righty

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then um so speaking of uh you know money

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pull up my Squarespace integration notes because can't just you know talk crap

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know blah blah blah I don't care what Nick has to say about my sponsor spots

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you don't up slogans you just use old slogans that they don't use

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anymore I only did it because someone told me I should I hate you all right

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moving on to linda.com Linda is used by more than Millions more than Millions

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more than Millions why do I even try this is what happens when I spend the

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clarify how many millions so there they're multiple Millions so three

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Photoshop sorry one of the things you can learn on Linda is a sponsor conflict

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at only $25 a month month if you decide yeah Linda's awesome which many many of

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our viewers have given that Linda's been advertising with us for like two years

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now yeah about that something like that yeah and uh they continue to get lots

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and lots of signups and we continue to not get complaints about Linda which're

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awesome because they're awesome disclaimer using linda.com does not

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guarantee that you will get a job at lonus Media Group lonus Sebastian's

528
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comments and slor statements on the L show are not always accurate that's true

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we should have that disclaimer just at the B W show

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warning L of Sebastian's comments maybe

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warning W show should be is for entertainment

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purposes it should not be considered a real source of news

533
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yeah um speaking of real source of news I think Taran had wanted to jump onto

534
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the show do you want to see he wants to talk about space and weird stuff like

535
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that so oh okay so I'll go get I'll go get tan um okay you do that uh you do

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the the uh the topics and stuff goodbye

537
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all right all right thanks Nick we've decided to make this more of a thing

538
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where like random LMG people Sub in whenever Luke or I are not here I think

539
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it's it's been pretty fun so far I've been enjoying it all right so our next

540
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article here is originally from

541
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politico.com digital campaigns how can

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Democrats win with tech that looks like

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a fascinating discussion that they're having right now I've been tagged in hi

544
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,920
everyone hey how's it going welcome to the show it's good so in Cleveland Ohio

545
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I'm going to do this one on my own while you figure out what the next topic you want to do is in Cleveland Ohio

546
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:43,960
Microsoft's research division advertised a technology that can read facial

547
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expressions in a massive crowd so they can analyze emotions and report back in

548
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real time so they're calling this realtime crowd insights hang on what's

549
00:40:50,440 --> 00:41:00,400
the resolution of the camera they're using probably uh like NSA megapixels oh

550
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so the small camera scans the room there

551
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,599
you go while a monitor displays the captured image and there's actually a

552
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:10,240
picture from the test here so we'll go ahead and pop this up

553
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:17,280
mhm check this out this is like scary stuff right here 59y old male whoa 38

554
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:18,720
male happy 37 female happy 27 male

555
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neutral have you ever done one of those age test thingies where it tries to guess your age based on your face and

556
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:29,079
notice how it's not really that accurate um maybe there's more accurate

557
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,440
technology out there but that's a doctor

558
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:35,119
image you think that's a doctor image this is from a demo this is a screen

559
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grab they Pro they then then then Sherry picked the one where the Ages were

560
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pretty much okay well here hold on okay do you think those are probably pretty

561
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,400
much correct I think she's that girl looks younger than that oh I she looks

562
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it's kind of low resolution it's hard to tell yeah I think this looks about right

563
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59 for that guy yeah 59 gr gray hair it's hard to

564
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it's hard to tell he's got a big nose that's not enough resolution there to be

565
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,520
able to tell that did you know that your nose grows your whole life and so do

566
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,359
your ears that sounds like a myth no then you must be very

567
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:20,559
old shows over yeah and that's the end

568
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:21,559
of that chapter um okay so anyway anyway

569
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okay so I'm going to finish going through this while you find a topic that did you do the NASA one yet no so every

570
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5 Seconds a New Image would appear with data annotated for each face so they

571
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assigned a serial number this is great assigned a serial number gender

572
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estimated age and any emotions detected in the facial expression and they keep

573
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track of the serial number and can identify the same person hours later no

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way so a Microsoft spokesperson said for example that you could use this Tech at

575
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a trump Rally or even the Super Bowl to find out how the audience what on Earth

576
00:42:53,599 --> 00:43:03,839
are you doing I'm too short at tall for this as is right now now yeah now it's

577
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:10,400
good okay um so anyway okay so so let's talk about

578
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:16,960
how I expect this technology to be used mhm

579
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:19,880
basically we are giving politicians a

580
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:24,119
tool to lie to us more effectively really yes wait who who is this

581
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:27,839
technology for for them well the way it's being pitched is that it could be

582
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used at a campaign rally uh-huh so that way through you could actually look like

583
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:37,640
imagine this this is this is like some next LEL stuff right here you could look

584
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:43,880
you could scrub through the campaign speech and you could see a Hots spot or

585
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:47,599
you could see like like a heat map of

586
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viewer sentiment during the speech every

587
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time so every time the politician says anything you can Pander to viewers in

588
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,599
real time yes just like that onion skit which is a really funny video that you

589
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:03,599
should watch instead of the wi no I'm just kidding no let's keep uh

590
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:09,599
yeah Panda to viewers in real in real time I me can you imagine if the L show

591
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:15,160
if if I had real life sentiment monitoring like say for example twitch

592
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:18,880
chat when they're like Taran I love you

593
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:21,680
you just ate that sweet so damn

594
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:26,119
fabulously so there you go yeah in real time yeah cuz we can watch this but it's

595
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:30,359
like really annoying to do so yeah and not as trustworthy so if we just had

596
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like so it's it's basically taking people sad angry mad and turning them

597
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into a a sentiment value that's cool so

598
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you could have a sentiment percentage in the crowd so the second that you know

599
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,400
let's say uh Mrs Trump you know pulls

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part of a speech from Michelle Obama or the second that Hillary Dodges a

601
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:55,599
question about you know the fact that she's being investigated in the middle

602
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:59,079
of a presidential campaign you know I'm not taking I'm not quite frankly I'm not

603
00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:02,839
taking sides at all in this one now that I know who the two candidates are I'm

604
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:08,680
just kind of yay I'm Canadian this is not my problem at

605
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,359
all can you even vote yeah I'm still an

606
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,400
American citizen yeah but can you vote if you're not living in America I think

607
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:18,440
you vote based on the last state you lived in which for me is Colorado oh

608
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okay so there there you go so enjoy that

609
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:26,280
um but like you could be saying something like bro the most important

610
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:29,079
thing to us is jobs and and then you

611
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:32,920
could see like dip and you could go but that's not as important as the

612
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:37,720
environment yeah it it's something comedians are

613
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:41,000
good at this where they'll start a series of jokes and if the audience

614
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:45,559
reaction is really positive they'll continue with that series but if not

615
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:50,480
they go on to the next joke but now we can have it for politics and have robots

616
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,160
figuring it out and then you create a robot that's good enough at pandering

617
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:59,359
and we won't even need politicians anymore that's also another onion skit

618
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:04,640
we'll just put robot in charge perfect brilliant president

619
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:06,200
execut so there you go that's kind of

620
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,000
that's kind of my take on this there's that picture by the way you guys can you

621
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:15,400
guys can check that out

622
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:16,880
um wow I just it's a Brave New World lus

623
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,079
yeah I I don't really have anything else to say other than well but the thing is

624
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:24,319
like we we've heard of all of these like interesting pieces of tech that sound

625
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,880
scary but then we never really hear anything else yeah that's cuz it's all

626
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:32,079
happening behind closed doors course I I've heard that like the

627
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,440
security cameras at I forget what it was maybe Sears or Target or something like

628
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:39,599
they're extremely good have I told you this on the show before I think it's

629
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,960
Target like extremely good to the point where they know what you've purchased

630
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,359
before you go to the check they've actually already I think it's Target

631
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:50,720
where they've already rung you up before you actually walk because the cameras

632
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:56,079
are so high resolution they track everything it's amazing and like that's

633
00:46:53,240 --> 00:47:00,160
just the stuff we know about yeah I mean I'm sure Professor Zuckerberg over there

634
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,559
has plenty going on that we don't know about and then like there were NSA

635
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,000
satellites that were decrepit and they're like oh these are obsolete now

636
00:47:05,319 --> 00:47:10,520
here NASA you can have these and NASA's like holy crap these are amazing

637
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:15,800
satellites what have you guys been using them for and then NASA's basically like

638
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:18,960
okay turn them around to point at the

639
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:21,839
stars instead of all the people

640
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:25,359
everywhere cuz that's frankly a better use for satellites hey for people like

641
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,720
me as far as I'm concerned they're one and the same

642
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:36,240
you're not a star maybe a a very dim one all right so

643
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:42,400
let's talk about NASA's training program that involves consumer grade VR and

644
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:44,200
quote unquote NVIDIA GPU technology I'm

645
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:49,640
assuming this is like the perfect lonus and Teran topic all right so let's pull

646
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:53,200
up the uh let's pull up the NVIDIA blog

647
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,960
here Invidia reported this uh yeah well

648
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:59,280
NVIDIA is always bragging about anything you can use a GP are especially fond of

649
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:07,079
bragging about things that you can use a GPU for that are not gaming oh yeah well

650
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:08,880
yeah yeah I can see that so let's uh run

651
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:14,000
through the notes here once I get that switch back so they're embarking on a

652
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:18,160
15-year Journey to Mars and VR is going to play a key role so they're actually

653
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:23,760
going to be using NVIDIA GPU technology combined with Unreal Engine 4 mhm

654
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:28,000
consumer grade VR physical mockups and models wearable Technologies and room

655
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,920
scale tracking and they're going to create what they're calling a hybrid

656
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:36,680
reality system very very cool they want to

657
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:42,119
create an extremely immersive and realistic training facility at a lower

658
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:46,200
cost than traditional analog test Fields hang on this says a 15-year Journey to

659
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Mars it only takes like 9 months to a year to get to Mars preparation yeah

660
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:57,079
training for sure but it's worded oddly in this document okay fine let's

661
00:48:53,799 --> 00:48:58,960
continue so uh Frank Delgado and Matthew

662
00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:03,960
noise at NASA's Johnson Space Center hybrid reality lab have the goal to

663
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:09,760
create this lowcost scalable platform to enable an Out ofthe World Experience so

664
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it's about incorporating the best elements of physical and virtual

665
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,319
realities to get the best of both worlds and there are already I mean it's a good

666
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:22,160
thing they've given themselves 15 years for this because there are already ways

667
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to incorporate physical objects into a

668
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VR space uh one of the ways I've seen it done is with tracking dots oh yeah yeah

669
00:49:27,319 --> 00:49:32,640
yeah so you put these uh um there was actually a demo that I saw at the

670
00:49:31,319 --> 00:49:37,880
Samsung developer conference where you basically put these like wire things

671
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:43,520
with reflective IR reflective dots on them so that the VR uh so like the room

672
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:47,240
scale VR cameras that are tracking you interesting can also track these objects

673
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,640
and know what they're supposed to be so the puzzle I solved was like an Indiana

674
00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:58,200
Jones style you've done this move yeah um move the like move the stone idle

675
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:02,520
onto the correct and it was a real Stone Idol and also in the game yes that's

676
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:07,079
very cool like it felt like what I was looking at in VR why do they need

677
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:10,000
virtual reality for this um I mean I

678
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:14,280
mean they can't simulate uh zero gravity obviously unless you go on the vomit

679
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:18,480
Comet and then it's only like 90 seconds what are they simulating exactly so what

680
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:22,280
they're simulating is well they're making it more immersive because you

681
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:27,160
could make the argument but do you need that um yeah I think so well what I just

682
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:31,000
I don't know what they're doing with it so it's more versatile for one thing so

683
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:36,960
if you were to create a physical training set oh like a Hol deck oh now I

684
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:40,280
understand yeah so now you can do you

685
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,880
know Hol deck yeah there well the

686
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,799
explanation well if anybody hasn't watched Star Trek then why are you

687
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,920
watching the W show you're not enough of a nerd and as long as they have props

688
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:52,440
that are a reasonable fa simile of whatever it is they're trying to do a

689
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,720
training session on then they can actually change the functionality of the

690
00:50:54,200 --> 00:51:02,960
room very easily and very quickly interesting there's there is a lot of potential here for sure so cool they

691
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:07,599
said that they're going to okay they said that the Johnson Space Center's

692
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:11,640
active response gravity offload system

693
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:14,119
Argos is um an excellent candidate to

694
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:19,960
combine this VR system with a way of creating a sense of weightlessness which

695
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,640
would be much easier when a user is in a

696
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,440
virtual environment than when they're in a room is that when they're swimming

697
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,599
around in the water um I'm actually it does to

698
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:33,000
simulate a no I think this is a different one so here we go this is a

699
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:38,319
picture of Argos right here a small robotic crane oh yeah yeah yeah I've

700
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,280
always wanted to to like jump around

701
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:47,079
with a small robotic crane getting rid of most of my body weight so in VR very

702
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:49,440
cool that'd be so so so awesome I would

703
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:54,920
I wish can we rig one of these up we we have we have beams up there I mean I

704
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:59,240
know NASA's budget has been cut it's still a lot more than ours we could

705
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:06,920
we could get a grant from NASA and let the astronauts come here to uh Siri BC

706
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:11,280
Siri BC quite a quite a ways from Houston let's see John uh John told me

707
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:15,920
he was going to Mark some of the topics that uh that he wanted to jump in on but

708
00:52:13,319 --> 00:52:20,280
it looks like he actually did not well did not do that

709
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:25,520
well okay I have uh was there anything else that you wanted to that you want to

710
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:28,079
talk about NASA or just about other I

711
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:32,640
I'll look for one shall I but that that NASA thing is very cool I'd love to like

712
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:37,960
see like training videos of that to see what they do with it you know be very

713
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:48,880
cool I'm stoked on that kind of stuff all right so d d OnePlus is back in the

714
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:51,400
news H so the invite system is gone but

715
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:58,680
uh lo and behold original article here is from phonearena.com the phone sold so

716
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:06,400
well without the invite system that they actually have to Halt sales of the

717
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:09,000
OnePlus 3 for more than a month in 24

718
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:14,760
countries so in order to build inventory back up sales will be halted starting

719
00:53:11,799 --> 00:53:18,920
August 9th at 6 p.m. eastern Daylight time until September 12th for Austria

720
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:22,960
Belgium Bulgaria Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Estonia France Greece Hong Kong

721
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:28,280
Hungary Ireland Italy laia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Portugal

722
00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:32,839
Poland Romania Slovakia Slovenia and Spain oh that's fascinating so if you

723
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:38,000
place an order before the sales halt your phone will go out on the estimated

724
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:40,480
shipping date but uh in the meantime

725
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:45,359
they're just like yeah sorry we straight up do not have enough but we have one

726
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:50,079
don't we a OnePlus 3 yep yeah they sent us a review

727
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:55,040
sample um what you got oh oh sorry I wasn't paying attention uh you

728
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:58,799
to I was listening to you talk I I can't it's hard to listen to someone talk and

729
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:03,640
read at the same time which is why when you're editing a video you put as little

730
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:05,480
text on the screen as possible fun fact

731
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:13,119
all right our next story here is from DSL reports Comcast says it wants to

732
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:14,640
charge bron bron band Bron band I don't

733
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:20,440
even know what that accent was Broadband users more for privacy so Comcast this

734
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:27,160
week informed the FCC that it should be able to charge Broadband users looking

735
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,160
to protect their privacy

736
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:34,559
wow so the FCC has been crafting new privacy rules for Broadband that would

737
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:38,520
force isps to disclose exactly what they're collecting and selling it's

738
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:45,079
almost like the FCC is on the consumer side for a change oh wow imagine that um

739
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:47,880
and also working to provide optout tools

740
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:53,480
for customers can you just use a VPN and just get around all this

741
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:56,760
nonsense um it'll be a bit slower yes

742
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,640
and no more I'm not sure that it's a

743
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:02,079
perfect solution but yes it would get around a lot but then you're basically

744
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,240
paying for internet and then also extra internet on top of your internet so

745
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:12,760
basically you are paying more for additional privacy right but I wouldn't

746
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:15,240
trust Comcast at all ever so they're

747
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:20,920
going to say oh you have more privacy now because you pay more we'll be fine

748
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:25,240
like every time you see Comcast's name in the news it's something that they've

749
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:30,280
done to screw over their customers right so basically in the news today is them

750
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:33,839
saying it's well within our rights to screw over our customers so what they're

751
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:39,240
saying they're arguing that charging consumers more money to opt out of Snoop

752
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:43,000
advertising so collecting user data and selling it to advertisers should be

753
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:47,599
considered a perfectly acceptable business practice what I want to know is

754
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:52,559
where it came from in the first place like like when did I ever aside from you

755
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:57,599
know at the bottom of your statement oh by the way our terms of service have been updated yeah when did I ever say it

756
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:01,960
was in the first place when did this ever become the status quo no but that's

757
00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:05,640
that you just explained it your their terms of service are sitting somewhere

758
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:10,119
and you're just supposed to read them every time they've been updated and uh

759
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,160
and then be mad and then do nothing because Comcast is the only prider in

760
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,640
your area because they pushed out all the little guys so this is great and

761
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:22,200
then hope for Google Fiber they go on to say thanks Comcast a bargained for

762
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:25,240
exchange of information for service is a perfectly acceptable and widely used

763
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:29,319
model throughout the US economy including the internet e system here's

764
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:36,200
what I want to know when did the bargaining take place and and where was

765
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,960
the part where I got offered a

766
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,160
discount oh that's what they're calling it now no no no no that's not what

767
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:45,559
they're calling it oh yeah oh yeah where was the part where I got offered a

768
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:50,039
discount in the first placeing when they started augmenting their revenue stream

769
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:56,319
that is the bill that I pay which I don't cuz I don't use Comcast it so it

770
00:56:54,160 --> 00:57:03,440
would cost more without this exactly exctly which it wouldn't by the way yeah

771
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,720
it's like it I I think about big picture

772
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:10,599
things like this sometimes where it's like a company can exist it it seems it

773
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:15,760
it feels like CU this is only the ones that you hear of in in two different

774
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:19,680
like diametrically opposed States either completely screwing over their customers

775
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:25,319
for as much money as they can possibly get and forcing their way into you know

776
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,720
politics and whatever or being really nice to their customers and customers

777
00:57:26,799 --> 00:57:31,920
really like them and that's why they make a lot of money it seems like it's

778
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:34,559
only ever one or the other again probably because that's the only ones

779
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:40,240
you hear of but it's like how does a company like Comcast continue to exist

780
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:44,280
when all you ever hear about them is just pissed off people is it because

781
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:51,920
they have their fingers in all the politics where you have like it's

782
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:54,760
ah it's like the human race makes

783
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:59,599
progress 10 steps forward nine steps back we're getting

784
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:03,960
there eventually but it's so frustrating to see the obvious answers to things

785
00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:09,799
just be ignored and it's like you know what don't screw over your customers and

786
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:11,319
they'll it'll be fine they'll be fine

787
00:58:09,799 --> 00:58:15,960
everything will work out in the end long term Comcast isn't even the first one to

788
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:21,599
do this uh AT&T actually launched uh as a $30 or more premium if you wanted to

789
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:24,839
uh opt out of their internet preferences which is a deep packet inspection

790
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:29,400
program that tracks your bring Behavior around the internet so that was back in

791
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:32,559
Austin in late 2014 when they launched their gigabit internet

792
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:42,520
service um oh I had picked something let

793
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:47,720
me see here um the next Google Maps update could

794
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,920
show how bad parking is yeah that would be actually very very useful uh I'm

795
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:55,680
going to go ahead and pull up the original article here which is from Daily Mail while you go through this fun

796
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,960
fact from my father who is a city planner

797
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,160
every car that you add to like the

798
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:07,039
general like a city requires seven parking spaces you don't have to justify

799
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,559
that I know we we've had this conversation distributed across across

800
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:16,640
the city because you have to park at home you have to park at the supermarket you have to park at the movie theater

801
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,400
you have to park at the bar it's like seven on average like kind of moving

802
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:27,400
around a little bit you should be parking at the bar I don't carry on yes anyway uh leure

803
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:31,039
Center it that's just that's just a fun fact I actually haven't looked much into

804
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,559
it I just believe my father when he says these things but I'll get more info on

805
00:59:32,839 --> 00:59:38,880
that if it's disputed anyway let's see if Taran learns not to listen to his dad

806
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:44,720
before he turns 30 so I plan to lie to my kids about all

807
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,480
kinds of hilarious stuff you're a h okay

808
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:51,119
pull up the thing so people can look at it okay next Google Maps update can show

809
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:55,559
how bad parking is it's per currently in beta could include text based alerts

810
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:58,520
informing users to parking shortages at their Des destination oh that's great

811
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:05,280
cuz it already tells you if the store is going to be closed by the time you get there yep it's not always accurate but

812
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:07,400
sure we'll allow for you to just these

813
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:11,760
little comments man will allow for you to account for both traffic and parking

814
01:00:09,319 --> 01:00:15,799
scarcity at your destination service will likely be based on total number of

815
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:20,039
spaces available in a given area taking into account time of day and nearby

816
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:23,640
public events oh yeah cuz I went to the laundromat one day and it's like where's

817
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:27,799
all the parking oh my goodness I can't get through um update also includes is a

818
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:33,079
feature that will fix when you accidentally reorient the direction of

819
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:35,599
the map what whatever keeping it always

820
01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:40,119
in point keeping it in always Point North mode no whatever more details to

821
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:45,680
come I like that cuz I freaking hate that yeah yeah when I pinch to zoom in

822
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:47,440
or out and it's like no that's not how I

823
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,480
want to look at it that's not just for the parking that's for the whole map

824
01:00:48,839 --> 01:00:54,400
yeah okay well then that's great I was like why is it just for parking so I'm

825
01:00:52,839 --> 01:01:00,480
really interested to see how this impacts businesses m because in the in

826
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:04,799
the analog age people would just have to like remember oh there's not much

827
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:09,160
parking on Robson during evening and on Sunday Costco in the evening is nuts

828
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:13,680
right you would just have to remember stuff like that but you know what if you

829
01:01:10,839 --> 01:01:18,920
drive a bike you never ever have these problems no one on earth drives a bike

830
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,240
ride a bike um but now what you'll be

831
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:26,559
able to do as a consumer so so like the digital consumer the millennial consumer

832
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:32,319
is going to all of a sudden start shifting business away like just Google

833
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:36,240
making this one update the millennial consumer is going to start going

834
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:41,599
somewhere else in the first place yeah for the sake of finding

835
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:45,119
easier parking I see it happening well you know what I do whenever I drive

836
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:49,720
anywhere which isn't often because I bike and whatever whatever but I will

837
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:55,119
always do Google Map instructions to my destination because it routes you around

838
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:58,599
traffic blockages in theory well I've had very good

839
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:04,240
luck with it for the most part I've had some experiences not that long ago

840
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:06,680
sitting in traffic with a red line

841
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:10,039
completely between me and my destination um do you remember that day tell you to

842
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:15,000
get off do you remember the day you guys did the Hot Dog Channel Super Fun hot

843
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:18,000
dog Olympics no I did wasn't I didn't participate in that oh okay well I was

844
01:02:16,279 --> 01:02:22,760
trying to get back to the office and there was a massive accident oh yeah and

845
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:26,799
so I fired up Google Maps as I realized it was slowing down and it didn't I saw

846
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,839
a red line all the way so it knew it was taking a long time but my update like or

847
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:36,920
sorry my estimated time of arrival only ticked one minute for every minute that

848
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:42,480
passed like it didn't update to say that it was going to take longer you know

849
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:45,480
what at all the system is in in progress

850
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,520
they're working on it what can I say it

851
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:53,520
works better to have it open than to not have it so I'll always check I'll always

852
01:02:50,279 --> 01:02:56,000
check with it avoided lots of congestion

853
01:02:53,520 --> 01:03:02,680
that way jazz hands um I do have an update this

854
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:05,920
is really important um Jaz because we

855
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,880
talked about this on a previous WAN Show

856
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:12,039
and the facts of the matter are a little bit more complicated than they

857
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:21,079
originally made out to be by some uh Western media Publications using vpns

858
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:23,640
what UAE residents need to know so it's

859
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:29,400
not always illegal to be very clear that is not what happened sorry about that

860
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:33,799
um the legality actually hasn't changed and not all residents in the UAE who use

861
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:38,079
the technology could face imprisonment and fines so the confusion surrounding

862
01:03:36,279 --> 01:03:42,799
the impact of the law stemmed from inaccurate reporting by Foreign news

863
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,400
websites according to a UAE based lawyer

864
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:49,559
so what has been amended in the cyber crime law is the amount of fines that

865
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:56,200
offenders will face in addition to the existing provision on

866
01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:58,000
imprisonment so senior associate at C Co

867
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:01,240
suggested so as a lawyer suggested that private individuals aside from corporate

868
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:07,319
organizations don't run the risk of going to jail and paying a fine as long as they don't use a VPN to commit a

869
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:11,440
crime oh that's all how would you know misuse of the technology may still be

870
01:04:09,799 --> 01:04:16,279
punishable well basically what they're saying it basically what they're doing

871
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:20,119
is they're taking something that's very difficult to track and putting a

872
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:23,880
horrendous punishment on it oh good so they can make an example out of whoever

873
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:27,960
gets caught cuz it fines up to like half a million US Dollars and imprisonment

874
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:35,279
for like years so you just have to find a VPN that does not keep logs or at

875
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:37,200
least says that they does not keep logs

876
01:04:35,279 --> 01:04:41,319
and who really knows with all the gag orders going around would you would you

877
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:45,200
how knowledgeable I am about something sort of would you bet half a million

878
01:04:43,319 --> 01:04:48,119
dollars on any of that that's what they're that's what they're half a

879
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:52,119
million dollar fine that's what they want you to consider when you're like I

880
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:57,359
just want to you know pirat some movies or I could you know be in The Slammer

881
01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:03,079
and I I mean there's been a lot of million there's been a lot of uh debate

882
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:06,279
about the sort of creating very very

883
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:07,960
harsh punishments for crimes um and

884
01:05:06,279 --> 01:05:11,480
whether that makes more sense than Correctional Facilities especially

885
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,279
around the death penalty and and also just like a general little bit of a

886
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:19,640
punishment for everyone rather than a huge punishment for some people yeah but

887
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:24,520
the issue is catching them I guess so so there's been a lot of debate as to

888
01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:27,640
whether a whether stiffer penalties

889
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,640
actually serve as a deterr

890
01:05:34,279 --> 01:05:39,200
well it's been it's been sort of demonstrated either way and it's an

891
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:43,039
ongoing debate because it especially centers around the death penalty right

892
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,400
yeah cuz yeah because there's no hope for rehabilitation with the death

893
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:49,480
penalty yeah like that's it so and basically they're saying that there's

894
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:54,880
you know oh well you should just make it the death penalty for everything because then no one will commit crimes because

895
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:59,000
they'll die there's a Star Trek episode about that exactly so this has been a

896
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:02,640
debate for decades literally decades um so I'm not sure if it'll end up working

897
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:07,400
out for them in this case but I guess we shall find

898
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:12,440
out this gives me some Hope For Humanity Facebook has tweaked their algorithm to

899
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:15,000
show you less clickbait

900
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:21,079
woo so the original article here is from the BBC Facebook to suppress clickbait

901
01:06:18,359 --> 01:06:25,960
stories and Facebook let me tell you when they want to suppress something man

902
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:32,319
do they know how to do that they suppress something so they created new

903
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,760
guidelines around sponsored posts that

904
01:06:32,319 --> 01:06:37,480
make it so that we have to put hasht ad and we have to which was already the

905
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:42,400
case yeah we already did that but we also have to tag on Facebook the company

906
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:46,720
that sponsored it we have to tag their Facebook page okay and this is so that

907
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:52,799
Facebook can basically turn around and offer that company a chance to promote

908
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:56,520
that post oh yeah and what they do is

909
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:58,079
they bury those posts like just oh

910
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:02,119
because you put ad on them and because you put yeah yeah so they're making it

911
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:06,760
oh yeah so their terms of service is that we have to identify it we have to

912
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:12,160
identify who paid for it to them in a way that they can act on and then they

913
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:17,760
will just crush the reach of it there is a whole there's two videos by Derek of

914
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:23,039
veritasium that you can watch about it's called Facebook fraud where he talks

915
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:24,640
about promoting a a page promoting a

916
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:30,359
fake page and promoting his real page and how the more you pay in the more you

917
01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:32,480
need to pay in uh there's just a huge

918
01:07:30,359 --> 01:07:37,319
number of problems with this whole like Facebook incentivizing you having to pay

919
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:41,920
them money to get any kind of visibility it reminds me a lot of

920
01:07:39,319 --> 01:07:48,000
microtransactions in games like Pokemon go for example where once you start

921
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:52,880
paying to play you pretty much are stuck paying forever and it's just like more

922
01:07:50,279 --> 01:07:57,680
money and every single thing that you do pushes you more towards giving them

923
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:02,119
money and it's like that's not fun for anybody we paid for Facebook reach once

924
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:07,039
did we y why did we do that I decided to try it what happened um we got a few

925
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:10,760
more views on the post and then it prompted me to pay more to get more

926
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:15,640
views oh what a surprise I just said that um and honestly compared to

927
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:21,080
creating I mean this is something that I think for for Soulless imagination lless

928
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:27,120
companies might make sense to pay for reach but for Content creators where our

929
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:32,080
entire our entire business is making content that people actually care about

930
01:08:29,719 --> 01:08:38,440
for Content creators it is much much cheaper and more effective to just make

931
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:41,279
good content yes uh the SEO thing for

932
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:45,040
this is content is King but it doesn't help us when they intentionally Crush

933
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:49,520
certain posts oh yeah well of course they will I mean they're just it's just

934
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:53,440
I mean I stopped doing Facebook stuff like ages ago like they're not cool I'm

935
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:59,600
surprised you ever Facebook used to be cool

936
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:03,600
in the chat tell us about when Facebook was cool it used to be cool hold on

937
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:07,440
we're going to just this nonsense we're going to St this hold on we're going to

938
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:11,279
stra pull this and they slow I don't remember what update it was I think it

939
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:14,799
was like the timeline update where I was like okay I'm I'm sick of this now I'm

940
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:19,400
not going to keep on going it was a great way to keep in contact with your

941
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:25,040
high school buddies like if you watch the movie um what is it called social

942
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:29,199
network or maybe the social network boom all right guys check it out check it out

943
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:36,199
Facebook used to be cool very cool in that movie twitch chat says

944
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:38,239
1990 uh icq was cool Myspace was cool it

945
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:45,000
was cool it was also stupid but it was also cool um 2006 2009 year 1800 this is

946
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:49,080
why we never consult twitch chat about anything by the way this is what you're

947
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:52,719
learning the hard way well what a they today what what do you know what do I

948
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:56,320
know I know not to ask twitch chat anything I was looking at the camera and

949
01:09:54,279 --> 01:10:03,840
asking that all right 55% of people are saying Facebook was

950
01:09:59,719 --> 01:10:05,520
cool ah with 45% on my team oh well you

951
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:09,320
didn't add turnup in there so I think all the trolls are on your team the

952
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:14,159
trolls are not on my team yeah they they like trolls are never on my team yeah

953
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:20,360
they do not like me well okay the trolls love to hate on me it was

954
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:23,560
cool all right well thank you very much do you want to throw uh John in here cuz

955
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:28,520
there were a couple of things that I wanted presumably

956
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:32,440
I'm bringing my m& I'm going to jump right into our next topic here Euro oh

957
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:37,239
thank you look it's like it's like a little &m

958
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:43,840
Santa the M&M are a little salty I can't tell if that's like sweat or

959
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,840
not

960
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:51,760
anyway original article here is from eurogamer.net Hi l hey how's it going

961
01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:56,199
hey everyone we have so many hosts today I actually like this which one am my

962
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:58,199
number three you're number three yeah

963
01:10:56,199 --> 01:11:04,159
the Xbox One S has a performance boost and it has

964
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:08,320
been revealed and it has apparently been benchmarked by eurogamer.net have you

965
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:12,120
looked into this one at all no I haven't I think all the most of the topics I

966
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:17,960
wanted to do you do with tan so you didn't mark them I said I put them near

967
01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:19,920
the top oh I yeah I I didn't know if

968
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:25,679
near the top meant at the top or like at the top next time put John I'm sorry John

969
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:30,320
it's fine that's fine and we can talk about the Xbox One S let's do it so it

970
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:39,080
was released August 2nd has a GPU clock speed of 914

971
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:42,040
MHz wow how many wow Vancouver 914 MHz

972
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:48,400
okay that's up from 853 on the older version it supports 4K as well as HDR

973
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:54,800
media and gaming it's amazing what you can do with uh what is that 61 MHz these

974
01:11:52,120 --> 01:12:00,719
days who made the GPU do we know uh it's still still AMD okay uh 4K Ultra HD

975
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:05,639
Blu-ray and 4K video streaming are supported that's a positive that's a

976
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:11,199
plus HDR supported for games and video I just said that I okay notes are

977
01:12:07,239 --> 01:12:13,400
redundant important Note HDMI 2.0 will

978
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:19,400
not be included so 4K is only available and up to 30 FPS so still even now

979
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:24,159
they're not putting HDMI 2 no when is this coming out so the thing to bear in

980
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:26,360
mind is that this is based on an

981
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:31,520
AMD oh I forget what the architecture it's but it's gcn whatever whatever

982
01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:35,719
revision uh which did not support so it's like a generation too old so it's a

983
01:12:33,639 --> 01:12:40,880
generation it's a gener yeah I think it's two two architectural Generations

984
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:44,280
old but depending on how you divide up AMD's lineup given that they have

985
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:49,480
products that are literally three generations old still in their lineup and they've been rebadged that have been

986
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:55,920
rebadged it's really really hard to draw a clear a clear line it upscales 1080P

987
01:12:53,159 --> 01:13:00,480
or other content to 4K and Microsoft say some games ones that utilize Dynamic

988
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:04,560
resolution and or unlocked frame rates may see a very minor performance

989
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,679
Improvement our testing internally has shown this to be pretty minor and is

990
01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:11,840
only measurable on certain games so we didn't want to make it a selling point

991
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:16,239
for the new console so yeah upscaling hasn't been a selling

992
01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:18,880
point for a while on basically anything so

993
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,400
consoles is

994
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:30,000
this what do you think of the Xbox One

995
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,280
S what's the price point do we know yeah

996
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:36,360
it's out isn't it I don't know I don't care I have no idea what the price point

997
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:39,400
is I'm sorry I pay I pay so little

998
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:41,880
attention dbrand actually contacted me

999
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:46,080
um recently asking if I wanted an Xbox One S with their skin on it for a review

1000
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:54,239
and I was like oh when's it coming he was like like I have it I'm like oh okay

1001
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:58,320
sorry so are we just giving this a gigantic a gigantic shrug and then I

1002
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:04,080
move on to there was one that I really wanted to talk to you about it was the

1003
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:05,280
6% Netflix tax for Pennsylvania right

1004
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:10,159
well I mean you know people compare the console

1005
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:13,199
and the PC space so much but I mean I really feel like consoles or for a

1006
01:14:11,719 --> 01:14:17,480
different type of consumer they just want to plug something in and go for it

1007
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:23,239
and they don't care whoa oh that is so much better why was this up here Taran

1008
01:14:19,639 --> 01:14:25,159
put it there yeah thank you jeez what

1009
01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:30,600
are we going to do with that guy you tell me but he I don't know but uh so I

1010
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:36,040
mean in that vein I guess it would make I I think if you're in the console

1011
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:38,840
Market the price it might matter like a little bit less like oh you can get so

1012
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:42,600
much more performance on a PC for this amount of money but at the same time if

1013
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:46,679
you're saying oh I just want something I can plug in and go with and not have to

1014
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:51,560
worry about drivers or putting anything together and I want it to do 4K then

1015
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:55,600
there we go so basically the Xbox One S is just another console to you it

1016
01:14:53,520 --> 01:15:01,800
doesn't matter that it's smaller or or like 60 MHz faster all right serious

1017
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:06,679
question let's move on to this one's pretty

1018
01:15:02,679 --> 01:15:10,960
interesting there will be a 6% Netflix

1019
01:15:06,679 --> 01:15:12,520
tax for citizens of

1020
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:16,480
Pennsylvania USA so you want to want to walk us

1021
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:22,120
through this the doc's here by the way so it's Netflix it's Hulu it's Spotify

1022
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:25,760
if you have a um if you have like a Spotify Premium subscription so

1023
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:29,480
basically all stuff is going to get taxed now any kind of streaming media

1024
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:35,280
thing so see what I want to understand is what

1025
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:39,960
would be the justification for attacks on streaming

1026
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:44,120
media the state might be broke like a lot of the states

1027
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:48,360
are hey here's an easy way to make money let's just tax this thing that everyone

1028
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:52,760
else is watching instead of paying for cable so really that do you think it's

1029
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:58,000
that simple so do you think it's as simple as them not get okay a cable

1030
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:01,120
subscription is closer to $100 a month right do you think it's as simple as

1031
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,400
them not getting there and I'm going to throw an arbitrary number because sales

1032
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,480
tax varies wildly from state to state and even within Canada actually we'll

1033
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:13,520
real quick for you that it says right here done to help offset a$ 1.3 billion

1034
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,880
hole in the state budget okay there you have it but please continue so do you

1035
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:22,280
think this is as simple enough a calculation that we could just go okay

1036
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:26,560
so a cable bill used to be $100 a month and let's say they had a

1037
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:30,520
10% uh you know know sales tax and so they get 10 bucks for your cable bill so

1038
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:37,719
as people stop spending money on cable and they start buying Netflix subscriptions for $7 or $8 a month now

1039
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:40,880
they have to just charge like a $7 or $8 Levy to make up the difference I mean is

1040
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:46,280
that what's happening here I don't know I mean you already get

1041
01:16:43,719 --> 01:16:49,719
stuck with like however many SE charges on your cable bill they might not call

1042
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:55,159
them taxes but they're often like government fees or like something or

1043
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:57,239
another so I don't know I think I think

1044
01:16:55,159 --> 01:17:00,840
States recently have gotten very very upset when there's certain things that

1045
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:04,760
people just buy just like you would buy anything else with or just how you would

1046
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:09,840
buy anything else and they don't get don't get a cut of the taxes for it like

1047
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:13,679
crossb shopping yes online yeah back in North Carolina where I'm from they

1048
01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:17,639
recently started having the Amazon tax they call it a use tax but it's really

1049
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:22,480
just another sales tax where if you get an Amazon receipt and they didn't charge

1050
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:28,800
you tax on it you're supposed to supposed to every year say oh I bought

1051
01:17:25,639 --> 01:17:31,199
$30 worth of Widgets or toilet paper or

1052
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:34,719
whatever else from Amazon and and so you owe the state like you know a dollar or

1053
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:38,400
two on your tax return but almost Nobody Does it it's kind of a joke but they

1054
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:43,440
still try I mean that's the thing that's going to make that that makes law so

1055
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:49,320
complicated in the United States because that's what it is it's a United States

1056
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:56,679
it's not it it's okay don't take this the wrong way but it's not as much of a

1057
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:58,960
country as it is you're a glomerate of

1058
01:17:56,679 --> 01:18:03,679
like city states but but like actual States cities that's part of part of why

1059
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:07,239
the Civil War happened talking about it for a long time so yeah it's not like

1060
01:18:05,639 --> 01:18:13,440
America's happy about this situation either so so I mean here in Canada it

1061
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:19,239
got as it was as simple as the federal government said no this will not fly

1062
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,920
this happened about four or five 5 years ago oh they tried to attack streaming

1063
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:28,880
services up here did that happen no not streaming services um crossb uh crossb

1064
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:31,360
online and basically what they did is

1065
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:35,719
they put Theus on the retailer they said okay well fine NCI you're located in

1066
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:39,960
British Columbia good for you you are now responsible for collecting

1067
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:46,000
provincial sales tax from every Province and submitting that to those provinces

1068
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:51,159
done and it was implemented within I think about a year that seems a lot

1069
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:56,239
simpler but I don't know I don't know if it's just because we have so many more

1070
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,840
people or what but um but I I also

1071
01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:01,159
understand what you're saying you know the federal character of the US and oh

1072
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:05,159
like every state needs to decide how they're going to try to get their cut so

1073
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:08,239
very very interesting to me yeah it's not going to come out to be a ton of

1074
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:11,520
money like if you pay for you know if you send what like 10 bucks a month on a

1075
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:14,800
Netflix subscription over the course of a year that doesn't work out to be a

1076
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:18,480
whole lot but still you know there's going to be people who are angry about

1077
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:22,920
that you know so all right well I actually don't have

1078
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,480
that much left I'm I'm sorry I screwed up and did the topics that you wanted to

1079
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:30,600
help earli on in the show next time we do this I'll I'll make it more clear is

1080
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:34,760
there anything else you wanted to jump through did we talk about the set top box thing from the cop no we didn't

1081
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:42,040
actually we can do that one as our last topic sure uh hold on let me just pull

1082
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:45,000
it up here set oh crap contrl F set is

1083
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:48,080
not the best um offset set toop there we go all right so the original article

1084
01:19:46,639 --> 01:19:51,080
here is from RS Technica I'm just going to pull this up while John walks you

1085
01:19:49,639 --> 01:19:55,040
guys through what's going on with this this baby right here oh gra as soon as

1086
01:19:52,920 --> 01:20:00,000
you said it my like Google doc jumped everywhere but let's find it again okay

1087
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:05,199
so I'll start oh there we go okay okay go ahead okay so right now there's a

1088
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:10,080
dispute between the SEC and the US copyright office about whether cable

1089
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:13,199
companies should be forced to unlock their set toop boxes so right now if you

1090
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:18,320
have a cable subscription at least in the US you get like a little box that sits either above or below your TV you

1091
01:20:16,679 --> 01:20:22,400
hook it up with an HDMI cable but everything that comes into the box is

1092
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:25,920
copy protected in some form or another so it's not like in the good old days

1093
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:29,880
where we could just have a VCR record anything you want to onto a blank tape

1094
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:33,840
um is you can't just you know plug in a USB sticker a computer and say okay

1095
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,960
record to be clear there are ways around it there are ways around it but if

1096
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:40,960
you're just trying to do it without implementing any kind of you know

1097
01:20:39,159 --> 01:20:45,719
subversion mechanism or whatever then yeah you can't do it so and it is

1098
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:47,199
illegal to copy encrypted content but

1099
01:20:45,719 --> 01:20:52,280
that's a whole other conversation yes it is okay so basically what's so what's

1100
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:57,320
going on now so they're trying to Wrangle over whether they're going to

1101
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:59,120
adopt this this um SEC rule um the SEC

1102
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:03,040
is being a little bit more Pro consumer in this case they want to force the

1103
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:08,360
cable companies to say yo you have to unlock your setti boxes so if a paying

1104
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:12,600
customer wants to watch whatever it is Game of Thrones whatever else um and

1105
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:16,520
they're not in front of their TV at the time it's being shown but they also they

1106
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:20,679
want to watch it like somewhere else they don't want to DVR it they have to

1107
01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:24,800
let the consumer be able to do that right and the copyright office is saying

1108
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:28,880
no we can't because Zer just going to crap all over the copyright owner's

1109
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:32,440
rights and there's no way there's no way to like license us out correctly and all

1110
01:21:30,639 --> 01:21:35,159
this other stuff um so they're try they're trying to figure that out right

1111
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:41,320
now so ah and I mean you got to remember too

1112
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:46,080
that the cable providers are obviously going to be putting pressure on anyone

1113
01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:50,080
that they possibly can to salvage more ways for them to make Revenue I mean if

1114
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:54,040
they could sell the ability to stream it to your phone to yourself while it's

1115
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:56,840
happening while you're on the bus I'm sure theyd love to do that don't don't

1116
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:01,520
some of them already do that I believe so yes yeah like the on demand video and all that but they're trying to they're

1117
01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:06,440
trying to like increase or the SEC rule is designed to try to increase

1118
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:10,280
flexibility for cable customers and I remember that well I don't remember

1119
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:13,360
because I was either not alive or very young with this happened but we actually

1120
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:19,560
studied this a little bit in law school when the uh VCR came out and that was

1121
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:22,040
like the latest and greatest thing uh TV

1122
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:25,960
TV studios and movie studios and cable providers were concerned that oh this is

1123
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,679
going to lead incredibly rampant copyright infringement this is going to

1124
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:34,199
just you know undermine the entire system so it end up going to court and

1125
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:39,960
we all kind of know how that turned out people used VCRs anyway to record URL or

1126
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:44,400
whatever people watched back in the 90s and everything was okay the show is

1127
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:49,360
called Family Matters and people were still buying cable subscriptions so this

1128
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:53,159
is this is kind of similar but I think here the concern might be a bit

1129
01:22:50,679 --> 01:22:57,239
different because back in the '90s you weren't just going to send out 2 million

1130
01:22:55,679 --> 01:23:00,120
free copies of a TV show because you felt like it but these days it takes

1131
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:04,679
that amount of time to upload something onto the internet so and it's also a lot

1132
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:09,280
more user friendly to record these days um like back then you had to you had to

1133
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:14,159
hover over your VCR and what's the difference between LP and EP I don't

1134
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:17,239
know what this is oh no Long play versus

1135
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:20,480
extended play why are they named like

1136
01:23:17,239 --> 01:23:22,280
this um so I think that's pretty much it

1137
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:27,360
for the W show then guys thank you very much for tuning in thanks to our special

1138
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,480
guest joined us John Taran and Nick

1139
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:36,239
actually I don't want to thank Taran thanks to our special guests who joined us John and Nick and uh Taran was here

1140
01:23:33,719 --> 01:23:40,880
too and we will see you again next week there goes the train same bat Time same

1141
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,880
bat

1142
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:52,400
Channel there goes that training fantastic always it is really

1143
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:54,199
nice uh it is really nice streaming

1144
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,150
without any technical difficulties I'm really

1145
01:23:55,719 --> 01:24:03,600
yeah I can't believe closer to on time than I have

1146
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:03,600
expl why say

1147
01:24:05,159 --> 01:24:11,920
that and just like I've got everything working now and the stream computer

1148
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:16,719
isn't being flaky so like volume is all leveled correctly before the show starts

1149
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,719
that's good good