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welcome to the W show I'm hoping that everything is working I

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hate it when burkel is Left unsupervised

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in the warehouse and does and pushes things around and uh just you know does

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whatever it is that he's doing right now I don't I don't even know what their

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Channel Super Fun thing is but it involves an electric bike or something

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and uh I'm not going to worry too much about it yes the W show is less than 20

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minutes late because I actually came down at 1:00 today and started working

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on making sure that everything was functioning correctly so that's why we

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are less late than we otherwise would have been yeah and Colton was like oh

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man the W might be on time today lonus is working on it at like 1:00 Colton is

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Young and naive stupid no just that's

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that was rude stupid he's not stupid he just hasn't learned yet that the way and

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Show's never on time you know that's just the way it is

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all right so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today Luke's actually on vacation he's over in London

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working on some kind of high technology

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product launch I'm fairly certain we signed an NDA so I'm just not going to

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say yeah don't don't talk about that anything about it nothing about it other

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than that he's there he's doing a thing and I'm sure if your Google fu is strong

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you can figure out out what he's doing and what it has to do with but he's

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taking a few days off before the event and in the meantime I am stuck back here

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in Canada literally unplugging and

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plugging in USB connections thousands of

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times that is what I spent the last hour and a half or so working on is it micro

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b yes so oh so that's your own personal hell that is yes basically well it's

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only half hell because the other half is Type C so I tease this on social Med a

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little while ago but I'm actually going to be doing a head-to-head comparison of

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how many plugs before micro or typc

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break at least it's not non-reversible a

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cuz then before every plug you'd have to flip it over three

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times so we got a lot of great topics for you guys today uh first up the

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Samsung Galaxy Note 7 has been announced

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and uh this one's a shocker the screen is

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big wow the NVIDIA Titan XP has been

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reviewed and benchmarked that is to say

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by other Publications not by us so it's

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it's not called the XP right it's just the X right no it's called the Titan

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XP anyway um so Microsoft pitches

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technology that can read facial expressions at political rallies so uh

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you know we're that much closer to Skynet I guess we're that much closer to

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do okay so uh question do they aim them at the politicians or at the audience at

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the audience oh cuz I was thinking aiming them at the politicians might

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actually be a lot more useful it' be like a lie detector that would be like

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an actual you know Boon to society

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whereas this is just let's figure out who doesn't agree with dear leader and

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uh and we'll get him out of here actually would it be helpful to tell us

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that politicians are just lying the whole time I mean we already know that

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in theory I mean what else we got what else we got we'll talk about it in more

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depth later um the world's first programmable quantum computer is

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apparently a thing I haven't actually read anything about this topic so uh

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we'll see what happens yay

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Colton I checked it I think it's the right one it works there's no

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weirdness yeah

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I think they should actually change their slogan to that it should just be

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like squar

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space Linda

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wo all right all right guys so why don't we

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jump right into our first topic here today the Galaxy S7 has launched our

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original article here did I say Galaxy S7 see this is where I run into trouble

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this is where or this is where Samsung gets me into trouble by having multiple

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devices that are very very similar so

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the original article here is from Anon Tech at least I think it is it's hard to

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tell with all the soft layer ads on all

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sides of the uh on all sides of the website dang I'm pretty sure I'm pretty

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sure it's an ontech shot shots shots fired although those those who those who

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uh what is it live in Glass Houses something something Rock don't don't

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those who live in Glass Houses sink ships or something yeah I'm pretty sure

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it goes something along those lines and especially with our resident ad man

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literally sitting next to

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me it probably doesn't make sense for us to be to be too critical of ads but uh

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so what is there to say but oh so usually the co-host job is to take the

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link to the original article and posted in the twitch chat wait you actually

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expect me to do stuff while I'm sitting here yeah that's what I thought I sign

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up for that that's what I thought was going to happen I thought you were going to say things and do things I didn't

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sign up for that um so basically it's

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about as similar to any S Class product

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that we have pretty much ever seen so spec-wise you're getting a Snapdragon

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820 in the US anyway uh for RAM 4 gigs

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of lpddr4 for storage you're getting 6 4 gigs plus micro SD expansion I mean

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having micro SD expansion on the Note series was I think a bigger deal when it

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was not notably absent from the S Series

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but it has kind of Gone full circle now and is is back on the S on the S7 um the

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screen is 5.7 in it's 1440p it's uh sa

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AMOLED or S AMOLED okay uh dual Edge

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display it's got a 12 megapixel rear camera 5 megapixel front camera I mean

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I'm just getting bored talking about this a 3500 milliamp power battery I

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think the more interesting aspect of the conversation is that Samsung apparently

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learned how to count from everyone else in

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technology wait yeah we missed the Note 6 yeah I just realized that you didn't

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realize no I actually I I I pay so little attention to the note lineup

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because it's kind of like okay let's say

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were me yeah and like Trojan godamn

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releases a new line of like Magnum condoms okay so they've got like the

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Magnum X and they've got the Magnum XL and they've got the Magnum XP or

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whatever are you really paying attention the Titan Magnum

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XP so for me the note series and I will

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be reviewing the Note 7 um at some point

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at some point uh over the next little bit here and I'll say my usual thing I'm

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going to say it's a big Galaxy S7 and it's too big literally now they called

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it the Note 7 to line up with the S7 um

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so stay tuned for that or don't bother it's totally up to you uh but there are

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some unique things so the SP pen now

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allows you to turn videos into gifs which if you're a frequent Twitter

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is going to be a huge Boon for you so your tweets can now have 70% more GIF

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and not just the canned ones when you click the thing you can make your own um

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you cannot put the Spen into the phone backwards anymore which isn't to say you

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which isn't to say you couldn't before the problem wasn't putting it in it was

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say you couldn't get it back up

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yes this is cool it's ip68 so that's uh

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dust and water resistant yeah um with

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the S Pen attached or detached that's

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pretty cool anytime you open up a large hole in an object you are

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significantly um reducing its Ingress

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Protection ability so that's pretty cool and this is the big one Samsung has

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introduced Iris authentication with the

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node 7 so I obviously haven't used it I

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haven't seen it in action I will definitely be commenting on that but I

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do have an initial important question

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and we will debate this and I want to hear from you guys on this I'm going to

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go ahead and create a straw pole right now do you feel like Irish

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protection hold on I'm just going to

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type as I go do you feel like Iris protection is a any more convenient or

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B any more secure than fingerprint

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protection which we already have

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H do you want me to give my opinion now or should we wait for the hit it I

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mean I feel like there has to

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be more issues with Iris protection at least at first right because at this

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point the sample size from the public on fingerprint is so massive mhm so obvious

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viously Iris has to be at a certain level in order for them to even have it

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on this but I mean I would be a little

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bit hesitant at least at first like first generation of it for the public

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obviously it's been on other stuff in the past um but in terms of something as

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ubiquitous as a note series

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smartphone my my take on it is that

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anything anything camera Reliant from my

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experience you know going back and Sam Samsung Samsung does this kind of thing

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to themselves um anything camera reliant on a Samsung

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phone and whether you want to talk Smart Stay uh where the screen stays on if

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you're looking at it or if you want to talk about um what was it I think they

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had like uh like hand gestures that you could do to take pictures with the

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selfie camera Samsung's had a Samsung's had a lot of motion and Camera

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controlled features most of which have been abs abolute garbage and just plane

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haven't worked very well and people are saying it is a sensor on its own so it

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uses IR as well so that's good see this is why it's important for me to read

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twitch chat instead of just going on and on forever but anything okay so with the

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exception of the touch sensor anything Samsung's done that's like like a a a

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biometric or or natural human interaction thing has been either cludy

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or basically not worked at all from my EXP experience so I am

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both excited and also very skeptical to

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see how well this works because it's all fine and good if it works on you know a

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brightly lit show floor or if it works in at during the day but is this the

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kind of thing that's going to work dur at night and if it doesn't I so it

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should theoretically it should theoretically um or is it going to work

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when there or is it going to work I mean that's here that's another interesting

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point of part of the conversation is it going to work where there's a lot of ir

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pollution yeah like let's say you're on the CES show floor is there going to be

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too much pollution I don't know I don't know so and the question that I have

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that we have to answer then is if it doesn't work all the time if it isn't

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bulletproof and quite frankly I'd say the first generation of touch ID was

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pretty good and now it's gotten to the point where phones are coming out

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whether it's the axm 7 uh whether it's the Galaxy S7 uh whether it's the iPhone

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6s phone are coming out now where fingerprint detection is so fast and so

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accurate like even if your fingers are a little bit damp that I almost always use

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it I use it all the time I don't have to think about it until Iris detection gets

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that good I don't personally feel like it is going to be more secure or more

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convenient because as it is you could make the argument that

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someone could steal your fingerprints I mean they did it on MythBusters you could make the argument someone can

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steal your fingerprint they create um a

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rubber mold and then or a silicone mold and then they can they can spoof it in

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fact I believe it's been faked on uh on phones already

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so arguably fingerprint is not the most

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secure thing it's much more difficult to extract someone's eyeball right however there there have

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to be other spoofing measures though that's still pretty difficult that's

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still pretty difficult to do the fingerprint sort of creation thing I

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think if someone is that determined they're probably just going to put a gun

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to your head and tell you to unlock the phone anyway so I don't personally

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believe it adds a lot of security and I also don't personally believe it adds

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any convenience if anything I see that being less convenient because I don't

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know about you but my phone's already unlocked by the time I get it in front

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of my face yeah a lot of the time not

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this one because the ax 7 you can't use the fingerprint sensor as a lock button

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actually wait yes you can okay sorry I was wrong it didn't do it a second ago

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there you just have to wait a little bit longer when you do that but it's really

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fast when you press the lock button initially um but on the S7 where the

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lock button is on the front and it is like what I reach for first when I pull

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it out of my pocket it's unlocked well before it ever reaches my face in the

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first place so I don't really see that being a huge factor for me let's go

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ahead and check out the results here's a bit of a tangent but

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what what if they were to use something like an IR sensor to try to inhibit

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stuff like texting and driving

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where like if there's some type of a gyrometer or Gyro or whatever in your

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phone yeah that is like you're moving at a certain speed you have to use your IR

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sensor so you can't just unlock your phone when it's like down here by your

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side I mean I I can't see I can't see

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phone manufacturer because okay so the cold hard truth is that people are going

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to they're going to do it okay okay the cold hard truth is that phone

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manufacturers aren't going to start interfering with dangerous user

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practices that inconvenience the user that wants to do it unless they're

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mandated by law yeah so I don't see that happening I don't see it happening

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either that was just like what if like I'm just trying to think of a scenario

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where this could be potentially positive like I could see that being an app that

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like a parent might install but I mean okay you know I'm I'm sure twitch chat

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is telling us like stuff like this exists where it knows if you're driving

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that uh the phone shouldn't work like it's the kind of thing I could see parents installing on their kids phones

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yeah so that's something I could also see it being useful and uh we so we've

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got uh we've got the results from our straw pole here where people are saying

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for the most part uh not more convenient or more secure with about 40% of you

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saying it's either more convenient or more secure and only 14% of you saying

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that they think it will be more convenient and more secure so one way

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that it could add security would be if Samsung allows us to require both a

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fingerprint and an iris scan yeah but I'm again I haven't had my

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hands on the phone I haven't looked into this a lot um so stay tuned I I will be

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covering it that will come later we'll see how it goes all right the uh Titan XP reviews

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and benchmarks have arrived for some hey

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Outlets don't don't hate on my Titan XP naming all right oh these guys spelled

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it wrong they missed they missed the PE on it they missed the PE dude ah they

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missed the PE all right so did you copy that into the twitch chat thank you so

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all right I actually talked about this um PC perr was live streaming on their

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way down to like Quake con or something I actually forget where they were going

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so I'm just naming a random land Quake con right now I don't know think so I

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have no idea anyway the point is PC per was on their way down to a land event

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and they randomly shout randomly called me and uh speaking of using your phone

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and driving he had one phone that he was using to talk to me and he had the

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speaker of that phone held up against the microphone of another phone that he

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was periscoping from that he was he was actually he was only streaming audio so

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he was okay audio streaming from that one and I didn't know this until the end

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of the of the talk let's let's give sh the benefit of the dope maybe he had a

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hands-free solution going on we don't have video proof of any of this and

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maybe someone else was driving maybe someone else was driving someone else

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was holding the phones maybe PC per makes so much that he has a dedicated

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chauffeur okay maybe that's it maybe shrout's just a baller all right could

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be so anyway I was talking to shroud about this and the way that NVIDIA

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handled the Titan X launch I was kind of

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I pitched this to him and he kind of went yeah I don't know sounds plausible

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enough but I doubt he knows one way or the other and if he did I'm sure it

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would get someone at NVIDIA in trouble for him knowing uh but I was just like

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you know what it seems like happened here Jensen basically woke up poured a

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bowl of cereal for breakfast or whatever it is that bazillion eat yeah was

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sitting there eating it went I'm going to launch the Titan X today yeah yeah I

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I said that to you earlier this week yes that's kind of how it looks like to me

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that this went down because there was

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there were no materials sent to reviewers we got an email I think like

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10 minutes before being like hey just FYI Titan X is going on in 10

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minutes good luck we didn't get an NDA

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nope we actually I don't think we ever signed an NDA nope it was 10 minutes

00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:35.600
before launch um so so but but well the announcement the announcement prior to

00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:38.760
the lunch the announc announ so we never had an NDA at any point prior to the

00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:45.200
lunch and there's a reason for that and the reason for that is that um so some

00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:46.919
people got their Titan XPS the morning

00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:55.559
of the launch that night at 9:00 p.m. Pacific time we didn't get ours until

00:18:50.520 --> 00:18:58.039
noon about or Tuesday after the day of

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the launch and I'm kind of sitting here going like honestly I haven't talked to

00:18:59.919 --> 00:19:05.919
anyone at NVIDIA about this yet but when I do it's not going to be a happy

00:19:04.159 --> 00:19:10.200
conversation I'm going to kind of explain a little something I'm going to

00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:14.480
say okay so look you gave us nine hours of which only six of them are working

00:19:12.320 --> 00:19:20.559
hours because we're running a real company we're not like a guy in a

00:19:17.120 --> 00:19:24.840
basement with nothing to do until NVIDIA

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you know decides to bestow upon us a

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graphics card that we have the privilege of covering um and and I mean to be

00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:34.720
clear yes we do appreciate getting Hardware from manufacturers so that we

00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:39.400
can have timely coverage of it but the way that that normally works is we get

00:19:36.520 --> 00:19:44.520
it with enough time to do coverage of it so in this case we got six actual

00:19:42.080 --> 00:19:50.080
working hours of which let's do the math backwards okay of which I'd say about 15

00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:54.840
minutes of it goes into actually like filling out all the fields on YouTube

00:19:51.960 --> 00:20:00.640
yeah okay about 5 minutes of it goes into uploading it about half an hour to

00:19:57.840 --> 00:20:04.120
45 minutes of it is exporting it from Premiere assuming we only have to do

00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:07.320
that once which sometimes we don't like 20 minutes waiting for it to process on

00:20:05.679 --> 00:20:13.080
YouTube yep 20 minutes waiting for it to process on YouTube so we've already we've already used up well over an hour

00:20:10.520 --> 00:20:18.120
of our of our six hours okay so just saying the these are things that

00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:23.120
happened um editing it takes about 6

00:20:18.120 --> 00:20:26.679
hours okay benchmarking it takes another

00:20:23.120 --> 00:20:29.559
you know probably four to six depending

00:20:26.679 --> 00:20:32.760
on the depth and for something like XP we would have liked to do more

00:20:31.280 --> 00:20:36.679
benchmarks because NVIDIA has come out and said this is not just a gaming card

00:20:34.520 --> 00:20:42.000
it's like machine learning deep learning that stuff yeah so we've never

00:20:39.840 --> 00:20:45.200
benchmarked a card for deep learning before it's never come up so it's the

00:20:44.080 --> 00:20:49.559
kind of thing where there's a bit of a learning curve so let's say there's a few hours of actually figuring out how

00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.799
to Benchmark the thing in the first place um aside from that there's

00:20:52.120 --> 00:20:57.120
actually you know usually attending a briefing call so that you have some idea

00:20:55.520 --> 00:21:00.600
what the crap is going on not that I think there was get like a white paper

00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:04.000
or anything no I don't believe there was a reviewer guide for it um you know so

00:21:02.840 --> 00:21:08.240
usually there's some time spent reviewing the reviewer guide actually no

00:21:06.080 --> 00:21:13.799
maybe he got it the morning of something like that anyway the point is it was not

00:21:11.840 --> 00:21:18.120
actually possible oh yeah oh yeah shooting b-roll so this is another

00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:23.640
challenge because theoretically you could shoot

00:21:20.760 --> 00:21:26.559
Boll like on the Fly while someone is working on editing in a linear fashion

00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:31.200
through the video and we've actually done that before yeah the is that there

00:21:29.080 --> 00:21:36.080
is absolutely no way to shoot Boll of the card while it's being

00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:39.919
benchmarked well you could get Boll of it on the on the test

00:21:37.760 --> 00:21:43.840
bench Brandon how long does it take to do b-roll of a graphics card uh if I'm

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:48.799
doing it quickly four hours so Brandon figures he

00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:52.240
could speed through one in four hours but that probably assumes that Brandon's

00:21:50.320 --> 00:21:55.679
working on one of those uh endless streams of identical cards do you

00:21:54.159 --> 00:21:59.799
remember when we did like three wind Force cards in a span of two weeks I've

00:21:58.120 --> 00:22:05.919
seen the Force card more than they think I've seen anything yeah good old

00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:08.320
windforce so basically NVIDIA gave us a

00:22:05.919 --> 00:22:11.080
literally impossible goal of having a video up on time for this launch it was

00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:16.520
very frustrating but there's good news now

00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:20.279
that I'm done renting about how they really should organize themselves a

00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:25.600
little bit better I mean it's funny because between them and AMD actually um

00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:28.840
I I don't think I can't talk about that one yet or is that one launched I don't

00:22:27.159 --> 00:22:35.600
know when the NDA is for that it might have been I don't know

00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:38.840
like the last couple weeks of graphics

00:22:35.600 --> 00:22:41.720
cards deliveries and stuff has been like

00:22:38.840 --> 00:22:46.120
okay yeah the rx470 Embargo is lifted so that was another one where our rx470

00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:50.120
arrived today our official one we actually already had one from someone

00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:58.679
else but we didn't have our rever guide and we didn't have a driver yet so this

00:22:53.600 --> 00:23:00.640
is funny to me 1080 rx480

00:22:58.679 --> 00:23:06.159
very organized events around them yeah yeah

00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:11.840
relatively speaking like they were talking to us about rx480 launch a month

00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:16.159
before three weeks or three weeks before like we were we were organizing stuff um

00:23:14.760 --> 00:23:22.760
that's three weeks before the event which was a month and a half or something before the launch yes and then

00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:29.279
1080 uh to a lesser degree NVIDIA does the whole like Cloak and Dagger we are

00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:31.080
NVIDIA we are like super secret business

00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:37.960
bro they they do that a little bit more than AMD does um at least intentionally

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:40.799
so in the case of both titanex and rx470

00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:44.799
it's just amazing the contrast it's like did they spend all the budget or spend

00:23:42.760 --> 00:23:48.840
all the time organizing these launches and then just kind of go oh yeah I guess

00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:52.080
there's like other stuff too like I really decide I really don't understand

00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:58.480
this launch sequence like it almost feels

00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:02.679
like I don't know it almost feels like r x480 was

00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:07.960
announced and then they were like oh crap like we got to do 1080 very soon

00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:12.240
then and then it wasn't rx40 wasn't what they were expecting so then just this

00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:16.960
Landslide happened because like there was misinformation or something and

00:24:15.919 --> 00:24:21.200
someone thought they were going to be competing with someone else in a similar price point and then they weren't so

00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:26.279
then they had to match up which then caused the other team to keep going

00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:29.760
forward if that makes sense like it just feels very disorganized this time around

00:24:28.159 --> 00:24:39.480
all all right so let's talk facts about Titan XP it features a 16 NM gp102 GPU so this

00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:42.320
is very close to the Pascal GPU we've

00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:46.679
been introduced to in the Tesla lineup but not quite the same thing it's got

00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:53.159
3584 Cuda course so when you compare that to the Titan X the previous card uh

00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:58.679
when you compare that to the titanex it had 2560 so this is a very significant

00:24:56.360 --> 00:25:02.760
uptick in Cuda cor and that pretty much comes from the process node TR I think

00:25:00.520 --> 00:25:07.679
that may have supposed to be that that was probably supposed to be GTX 1080 I

00:25:04.760 --> 00:25:13.520
think oh is that 1080 I believe so o I can't remember anyway it has 224 texture

00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:16.039
units 96 RS a base clock of 1417 MHz and

00:25:13.520 --> 00:25:20.240
a boost clock of 1531 with Hardware Canucks actually managing to get it to

00:25:17.760 --> 00:25:27.360
overclock to a continuous like holding steady frequency of 1923 MHz yeah the

00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:29.760
old old Titan X had 3072 3072 thank you

00:25:27.360 --> 00:25:36.520
yeah all right so it's got 12 gigs of GDDR 5x RAM so we

00:25:33.919 --> 00:25:41.200
did not see hbm2 again this is a downgrade from the Tesla card and it's

00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:45.880
clocked at 10 GHz quad data rate and a 384-bit memory bus for a total of 480

00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:52.200
gabes per second of memory bandwidth and a 250 watt TDP so once again NVIDIA has

00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:57.080
one of the hottest cards on the market it's funny people give AMD a lot of crap

00:25:54.159 --> 00:26:02.919
for having really hot cards y the difference is that when comes to

00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:05.640
Performance per watt uh the Titan X

00:26:02.919 --> 00:26:12.840
really does come through so it's about 20% faster than even non-reference 1080s

00:26:09.919 --> 00:26:17.520
in some titles and as far as single gpus go it is King I was actually talking to

00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:22.679
shred about this too but it's gotten to the point where on the like performance

00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:29.080
charts in their reviews it's like Nidia land and then

00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:36.120
like a like it's gotten to the point where AMD

00:26:32.760 --> 00:26:37.760
has like it's you give it enough if they

00:26:36.120 --> 00:26:42.960
keep up the way that they're going you give it another couple of generations

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:45.679
like this AMD may find themselves a full

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:52.200
generation behind Invidia while NVIDIA sells graphics cards at a whopping

00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:55.240
$1,200 a pop that's insane lining their

00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:58.279
pockets stuffing the coffers and giving

00:26:55.240 --> 00:27:00.200
them more money to spend on R&D to cycle

00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:07.600
faster and faster and faster this is a troubling time a very

00:27:04.120 --> 00:27:10.600
troubling time because NVIDIA could

00:27:07.600 --> 00:27:12.640
easily slash the pricing of their lineup

00:27:10.600 --> 00:27:18.159
and make it very difficult to recommend buying an AMD card but NVIDIA is not

00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:21.720
really not really prone to do that they tend to wait until AMD puts actual

00:27:19.840 --> 00:27:25.240
pressure on them to drop the price so instead they're sitting there

00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:29.320
accumulating massive amounts of money to spend on basically you know whatever is

00:27:27.760 --> 00:27:33.559
the next technology they're going to introduce whether it's gam stream or

00:27:30.840 --> 00:27:38.120
gsync or whatever else that makes it so that at least some gamers are going to

00:27:35.840 --> 00:27:42.240
look at this card versus that card and go well this isn't even a decision

00:27:40.080 --> 00:27:48.399
because AMD straight up doesn't have feature X Y or Z I love how

00:27:45.600 --> 00:27:51.880
like you say things like NVIDIA cards are performing better right now and

00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:58.320
people in twitch chat call you an NVIDIA shell that's just the facts I don't make

00:27:55.919 --> 00:28:03.120
the rules yo we're not saying like they're better in performance per dollar

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:07.880
although in some cases I think the no no no the rx40 was better than 1060 in

00:28:04.919 --> 00:28:12.320
performance per dollar I can't remember um but it's just the facts

00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:18.799
like yeah some people so uh rage

00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:23.000
something in twitch chat says NVIDIA won't let AMD go bankrupt I'm actually

00:28:20.840 --> 00:28:28.760
not convinced that's anything to do with the motivation at this point um I think

00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:35.240
it's just a matter of not not wanting to sell computer hardware at low margins um

00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:38.960
not wanting to constantly iterate on new silicon as fast as they possibly can the

00:28:37.399 --> 00:28:45.399
way that they were doing you know back in the mid 2000s and it's a matter of

00:28:42.080 --> 00:28:49.080
just being happy to sit and make ample

00:28:45.399 --> 00:28:52.440
margin and happy to have AMD sit there

00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:55.679
as a measuring stick for why Enid's

00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.679
graphics cards are worth a lot

00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:03.440
more trouble in time

00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:05.840
so yeah just the the $200 price hike is

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:10.960
what really gets me it's just it's the same as the 6950x it's like we're

00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:14.760
charging this because we can so I actually thought that there was some

00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:18.720
justification for the $200 price hike yeah and I went back in time I may have

00:29:16.919 --> 00:29:23.159
actually done this on W show when the Titan XP was first announced um so I

00:29:21.399 --> 00:29:28.600
went back in time and adjusted for inflation like I found super crazy

00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:31.960
stupid Halo products from you know 15

00:29:28.600 --> 00:29:34.880
years ago and compared them and the $200

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:41.559
price hike was definitely still unjustified but it's not as unjustified

00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:43.159
as the $700 price hike on the 6950x but

00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:47.200
I can talk more about that one actually now I've I've been working on a pretty

00:29:44.600 --> 00:29:53.159
interesting video that that okay that does don't spoil anything but I won't

00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:55.200
but that does put that price hike into a

00:29:53.159 --> 00:29:59.760
more yeah it puts it into a different perspective for me so anyway one thing

00:29:58.080 --> 00:30:05.600
that we're ignoring when we say NVIDIA is jacking the price etc etc is that R&D

00:30:02.679 --> 00:30:10.080
costs are going up Generation by generation R&D processes are going up at

00:30:08.360 --> 00:30:16.760
the manufacturing level so at Global foundaries tsmc Intel and at the chip

00:30:13.360 --> 00:30:19.399
design level Pascal is a more

00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:27.840
complicated more difficult to design product than Maxwell than keer and etc

00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:30.799
etc etc um back to Intel's price hike on

00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:30.799
the 10 Core Extreme

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:38.360
Edition basically it's a

00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:41.279
Zeon so where it comes from is not

00:30:38.360 --> 00:30:47.320
wanting to cannibalize Zeon because when I was working on my what CPU should I

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:49.760
buy video MH I actually worked into my

00:30:47.320 --> 00:30:53.440
comparative sheet I worked all the everything from cerons all the way up to

00:30:52.480 --> 00:31:02.480
the $7,000 four-way uh E5 or or E7 series

00:30:58.840 --> 00:31:04.039
zon or is it E5 4000 any I forget I

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:08.120
forget the nomencl is either way don't worry about it anyway I worked in the

00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:13.159
whole thing and what I realized is that aside from the

00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.880
6800k which is priced more like a

00:31:13.159 --> 00:31:19.440
desktop chip and I think the reason for that is because they kneecapped its PCI

00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:23.960
Express Lanes making it suitable for desktop use even to a SLI which is all

00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:29.159
we recommend around here but not really suitable for Server use where many many

00:31:27.159 --> 00:31:34.600
expansion cards is much more likely to be a thing except for the 6800k there is

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.799
basically an equivalent Zeon in the current generation and you can look back

00:31:36.320 --> 00:31:44.000
at the previous generation and go yeah that was kind of the one that that was a successor to too okay so they pretty

00:31:41.320 --> 00:31:49.440
much pric them like overclockable zons that don't have ECC

00:31:47.760 --> 00:31:55.279
and you are paying a slight premium for the Zeon because it has ECC so it can

00:31:52.679 --> 00:31:58.960
handle server memory okay and that's it that's basically that was the logic do I

00:31:57.360 --> 00:32:04.200
like it no yeah the issue is now is that they're

00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:08.519
labeling it as a core i7 and they're trying to sell it to Consumers obviously

00:32:06.399 --> 00:32:12.320
very high end consumer at a server price at a server price and the other thing

00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:15.480
that bothers me here too is not necessarily what they've done on the

00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:19.519
extreme Edition side because quite frankly I've never recommended an

00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:23.320
extreme Edition to anyone I've never recommended that someone buy an extreme

00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:28.960
Edition it has not happened and that was true when they were $1,000 and it's true

00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.960
today now that they're $1,700

00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:35.880
so doesn't matter to me it didn't make it any more or less likely that I would

00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:42.679
recommend one um to me the part that I find more objectionable is that Intel

00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:44.679
has been in in in the range that I

00:32:42.679 --> 00:32:49.279
actually expect people to buy so that's on the consumer platform the consumer

00:32:46.679 --> 00:32:55.399
chipset and socket M they've been selling us quad cores for 10

00:32:52.120 --> 00:32:58.200
years q6600 turned

00:32:55.399 --> 00:33:05.159
10 or actually no not quite sorry sorry not quite 10 we'll turn 10 within a year

00:33:01.399 --> 00:33:07.440
and that's like still a sort of relevant

00:33:05.159 --> 00:33:13.639
ship sort of it's like somewhat usable so q6600 was launched at around

00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.799
$700 but within about again about a year

00:33:13.639 --> 00:33:23.279
was down to pretty similar to what you'd pay for a 6700k today so you could get a

00:33:20.320 --> 00:33:29.840
kind of not quite Enthusiast blah blah extremo Edition quad core for basically

00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:35.440
you're paying for it today almost 10 years ago I think consumers should be

00:33:32.360 --> 00:33:37.320
getting a six core I don't see a reason

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:40.720
why the Enthusiast range goes from six to eight and consumers are still stuck

00:33:38.840 --> 00:33:44.919
with aqu quad I mean I do see a reason because they've had more emphasis on

00:33:42.639 --> 00:33:49.200
better onboard Graphics which I could end up completely eating my words you

00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:53.679
know 5 years from now when those chips with the better onboard Graphics are

00:33:51.120 --> 00:34:00.120
just you know blowing through video rendering or or you know uh encryp tasks

00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:05.840
or whatever the case may be using that GPU power but for now putting onboard

00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:10.839
graphics on a 6700k just makes me kind of feel bad

00:34:09.399 --> 00:34:14.839
when it could have just had more cores or more

00:34:12.879 --> 00:34:18.960
cash yeah you got to remember your perspective though as someone who always

00:34:16.879 --> 00:34:23.800
puts a dedicated graphics in a machine yeah like a lot of people a lot of

00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:28.560
people don't need more than four cores for the little amount of gaming and you

00:34:26.240 --> 00:34:30.839
know voice Comm and and music that they're going to be running right that's

00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:35.119
true and especially when you factor in hyperthreading yeah I just feel like if

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:39.480
they could give us four cores nine years ago then why can't they give us a couple

00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.560
more today I'm sure that they could I mean and they are higher performance

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:47.480
cores actually Anon Tech did a great article comparing modern CPUs to uh

00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.960
conro okay it's worth having a look at you guys should check it out anyway but

00:34:48.839 --> 00:34:56.320
go ahead yeah I just I don't know I feel like they're trying to Target someone

00:34:53.960 --> 00:35:01.560
who isn't you with the foure which is probably Smart in all

00:34:59.040 --> 00:35:05.520
honesty so it so so basically what you're saying is that it's no freaking

00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:11.119
mystery that I'm salty because I'm not the target market for the reasonably

00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:14.560
priced one essentially yeah

00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:20.240
essentially well all righty

00:35:14.560 --> 00:35:21.599
then um so speaking of uh you know money

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purposes it should not be considered a real source of news

00:39:40.359 --> 00:39:45.640
yeah um speaking of real source of news I think Taran had wanted to jump onto

00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:50.960
the show do you want to see he wants to talk about space and weird stuff like

00:39:48.680 --> 00:39:58.079
that so oh okay so I'll go get I'll go get tan um okay you do that uh you do

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the the uh the topics and stuff goodbye

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all right all right thanks Nick we've decided to make this more of a thing

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where like random LMG people Sub in whenever Luke or I are not here I think

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it's it's been pretty fun so far I've been enjoying it all right so our next

00:40:11.359 --> 00:40:15.200
article here is originally from

00:40:16.640 --> 00:40:23.520
politico.com digital campaigns how can

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:25.200
Democrats win with tech that looks like

00:40:23.520 --> 00:40:30.040
a fascinating discussion that they're having right now I've been tagged in hi

00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:33.920
everyone hey how's it going welcome to the show it's good so in Cleveland Ohio

00:40:32.680 --> 00:40:38.760
I'm going to do this one on my own while you figure out what the next topic you want to do is in Cleveland Ohio

00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:43.960
Microsoft's research division advertised a technology that can read facial

00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:48.240
expressions in a massive crowd so they can analyze emotions and report back in

00:40:46.359 --> 00:40:52.119
real time so they're calling this realtime crowd insights hang on what's

00:40:50.440 --> 00:41:00.400
the resolution of the camera they're using probably uh like NSA megapixels oh

00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:02.560
so the small camera scans the room there

00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.599
you go while a monitor displays the captured image and there's actually a

00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:10.240
picture from the test here so we'll go ahead and pop this up

00:41:07.560 --> 00:41:17.280
mhm check this out this is like scary stuff right here 59y old male whoa 38

00:41:13.839 --> 00:41:18.720
male happy 37 female happy 27 male

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neutral have you ever done one of those age test thingies where it tries to guess your age based on your face and

00:41:21.720 --> 00:41:29.079
notice how it's not really that accurate um maybe there's more accurate

00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:31.440
technology out there but that's a doctor

00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:35.119
image you think that's a doctor image this is from a demo this is a screen

00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:38.440
grab they Pro they then then then Sherry picked the one where the Ages were

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:41.440
pretty much okay well here hold on okay do you think those are probably pretty

00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.400
much correct I think she's that girl looks younger than that oh I she looks

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:50.640
it's kind of low resolution it's hard to tell yeah I think this looks about right

00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:56.200
59 for that guy yeah 59 gr gray hair it's hard to

00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:59.040
it's hard to tell he's got a big nose that's not enough resolution there to be

00:41:57.640 --> 00:42:03.520
able to tell that did you know that your nose grows your whole life and so do

00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:06.359
your ears that sounds like a myth no then you must be very

00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:20.559
old shows over yeah and that's the end

00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.559
of that chapter um okay so anyway anyway

00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:28.599
okay so I'm going to finish going through this while you find a topic that did you do the NASA one yet no so every

00:42:26.200 --> 00:42:33.400
5 Seconds a New Image would appear with data annotated for each face so they

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:38.040
assigned a serial number this is great assigned a serial number gender

00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:41.359
estimated age and any emotions detected in the facial expression and they keep

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:46.880
track of the serial number and can identify the same person hours later no

00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:51.359
way so a Microsoft spokesperson said for example that you could use this Tech at

00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:56.319
a trump Rally or even the Super Bowl to find out how the audience what on Earth

00:42:53.599 --> 00:43:03.839
are you doing I'm too short at tall for this as is right now now yeah now it's

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:10.400
good okay um so anyway okay so so let's talk about

00:43:07.520 --> 00:43:16.960
how I expect this technology to be used mhm

00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:19.880
basically we are giving politicians a

00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:24.119
tool to lie to us more effectively really yes wait who who is this

00:43:21.839 --> 00:43:27.839
technology for for them well the way it's being pitched is that it could be

00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:32.920
used at a campaign rally uh-huh so that way through you could actually look like

00:43:30.200 --> 00:43:37.640
imagine this this is this is like some next LEL stuff right here you could look

00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:43.880
you could scrub through the campaign speech and you could see a Hots spot or

00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:47.599
you could see like like a heat map of

00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:50.040
viewer sentiment during the speech every

00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:54.240
time so every time the politician says anything you can Pander to viewers in

00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:57.599
real time yes just like that onion skit which is a really funny video that you

00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:03.599
should watch instead of the wi no I'm just kidding no let's keep uh

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:09.599
yeah Panda to viewers in real in real time I me can you imagine if the L show

00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:15.160
if if I had real life sentiment monitoring like say for example twitch

00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:18.880
chat when they're like Taran I love you

00:44:15.160 --> 00:44:21.680
you just ate that sweet so damn

00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:26.119
fabulously so there you go yeah in real time yeah cuz we can watch this but it's

00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:30.359
like really annoying to do so yeah and not as trustworthy so if we just had

00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:36.640
like so it's it's basically taking people sad angry mad and turning them

00:44:33.520 --> 00:44:38.240
into a a sentiment value that's cool so

00:44:36.640 --> 00:44:44.440
you could have a sentiment percentage in the crowd so the second that you know

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:47.400
let's say uh Mrs Trump you know pulls

00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:51.480
part of a speech from Michelle Obama or the second that Hillary Dodges a

00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:55.599
question about you know the fact that she's being investigated in the middle

00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:59.079
of a presidential campaign you know I'm not taking I'm not quite frankly I'm not

00:44:57.359 --> 00:45:02.839
taking sides at all in this one now that I know who the two candidates are I'm

00:45:00.680 --> 00:45:08.680
just kind of yay I'm Canadian this is not my problem at

00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:10.359
all can you even vote yeah I'm still an

00:45:08.680 --> 00:45:13.400
American citizen yeah but can you vote if you're not living in America I think

00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:18.440
you vote based on the last state you lived in which for me is Colorado oh

00:45:15.160 --> 00:45:21.160
okay so there there you go so enjoy that

00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:26.280
um but like you could be saying something like bro the most important

00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.079
thing to us is jobs and and then you

00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:32.920
could see like dip and you could go but that's not as important as the

00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:37.720
environment yeah it it's something comedians are

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:41.000
good at this where they'll start a series of jokes and if the audience

00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:45.559
reaction is really positive they'll continue with that series but if not

00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:50.480
they go on to the next joke but now we can have it for politics and have robots

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:54.160
figuring it out and then you create a robot that's good enough at pandering

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:59.359
and we won't even need politicians anymore that's also another onion skit

00:45:56.520 --> 00:46:04.640
we'll just put robot in charge perfect brilliant president

00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:06.200
execut so there you go that's kind of

00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:11.000
that's kind of my take on this there's that picture by the way you guys can you

00:46:07.720 --> 00:46:15.400
guys can check that out

00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:16.880
um wow I just it's a Brave New World lus

00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:21.079
yeah I I don't really have anything else to say other than well but the thing is

00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:24.319
like we we've heard of all of these like interesting pieces of tech that sound

00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.880
scary but then we never really hear anything else yeah that's cuz it's all

00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:32.079
happening behind closed doors course I I've heard that like the

00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:36.440
security cameras at I forget what it was maybe Sears or Target or something like

00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:39.599
they're extremely good have I told you this on the show before I think it's

00:46:37.640 --> 00:46:42.960
Target like extremely good to the point where they know what you've purchased

00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:46.359
before you go to the check they've actually already I think it's Target

00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:50.720
where they've already rung you up before you actually walk because the cameras

00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:56.079
are so high resolution they track everything it's amazing and like that's

00:46:53.240 --> 00:47:00.160
just the stuff we know about yeah I mean I'm sure Professor Zuckerberg over there

00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:03.559
has plenty going on that we don't know about and then like there were NSA

00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.000
satellites that were decrepit and they're like oh these are obsolete now

00:47:05.319 --> 00:47:10.520
here NASA you can have these and NASA's like holy crap these are amazing

00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:15.800
satellites what have you guys been using them for and then NASA's basically like

00:47:12.680 --> 00:47:18.960
okay turn them around to point at the

00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:21.839
stars instead of all the people

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:25.359
everywhere cuz that's frankly a better use for satellites hey for people like

00:47:23.680 --> 00:47:28.720
me as far as I'm concerned they're one and the same

00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:36.240
you're not a star maybe a a very dim one all right so

00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:42.400
let's talk about NASA's training program that involves consumer grade VR and

00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:44.200
quote unquote NVIDIA GPU technology I'm

00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:49.640
assuming this is like the perfect lonus and Teran topic all right so let's pull

00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:53.200
up the uh let's pull up the NVIDIA blog

00:47:49.640 --> 00:47:54.960
here Invidia reported this uh yeah well

00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:59.280
NVIDIA is always bragging about anything you can use a GP are especially fond of

00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:07.079
bragging about things that you can use a GPU for that are not gaming oh yeah well

00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:08.880
yeah yeah I can see that so let's uh run

00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:14.000
through the notes here once I get that switch back so they're embarking on a

00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:18.160
15-year Journey to Mars and VR is going to play a key role so they're actually

00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:23.760
going to be using NVIDIA GPU technology combined with Unreal Engine 4 mhm

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:28.000
consumer grade VR physical mockups and models wearable Technologies and room

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.920
scale tracking and they're going to create what they're calling a hybrid

00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:36.680
reality system very very cool they want to

00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:42.119
create an extremely immersive and realistic training facility at a lower

00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:46.200
cost than traditional analog test Fields hang on this says a 15-year Journey to

00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:51.960
Mars it only takes like 9 months to a year to get to Mars preparation yeah

00:48:49.040 --> 00:48:57.079
training for sure but it's worded oddly in this document okay fine let's

00:48:53.799 --> 00:48:58.960
continue so uh Frank Delgado and Matthew

00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:03.960
noise at NASA's Johnson Space Center hybrid reality lab have the goal to

00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:09.760
create this lowcost scalable platform to enable an Out ofthe World Experience so

00:49:08.359 --> 00:49:13.280
it's about incorporating the best elements of physical and virtual

00:49:11.680 --> 00:49:16.319
realities to get the best of both worlds and there are already I mean it's a good

00:49:14.680 --> 00:49:22.160
thing they've given themselves 15 years for this because there are already ways

00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:24.520
to incorporate physical objects into a

00:49:22.160 --> 00:49:30.160
VR space uh one of the ways I've seen it done is with tracking dots oh yeah yeah

00:49:27.319 --> 00:49:32.640
yeah so you put these uh um there was actually a demo that I saw at the

00:49:31.319 --> 00:49:37.880
Samsung developer conference where you basically put these like wire things

00:49:35.359 --> 00:49:43.520
with reflective IR reflective dots on them so that the VR uh so like the room

00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:47.240
scale VR cameras that are tracking you interesting can also track these objects

00:49:45.680 --> 00:49:51.640
and know what they're supposed to be so the puzzle I solved was like an Indiana

00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:58.200
Jones style you've done this move yeah um move the like move the stone idle

00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:02.520
onto the correct and it was a real Stone Idol and also in the game yes that's

00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.079
very cool like it felt like what I was looking at in VR why do they need

00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:10.000
virtual reality for this um I mean I

00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:14.280
mean they can't simulate uh zero gravity obviously unless you go on the vomit

00:50:11.520 --> 00:50:18.480
Comet and then it's only like 90 seconds what are they simulating exactly so what

00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:22.280
they're simulating is well they're making it more immersive because you

00:50:20.240 --> 00:50:27.160
could make the argument but do you need that um yeah I think so well what I just

00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:31.000
I don't know what they're doing with it so it's more versatile for one thing so

00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:36.960
if you were to create a physical training set oh like a Hol deck oh now I

00:50:33.640 --> 00:50:40.280
understand yeah so now you can do you

00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:41.880
know Hol deck yeah there well the

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.799
explanation well if anybody hasn't watched Star Trek then why are you

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:48.920
watching the W show you're not enough of a nerd and as long as they have props

00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.440
that are a reasonable fa simile of whatever it is they're trying to do a

00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:55.720
training session on then they can actually change the functionality of the

00:50:54.200 --> 00:51:02.960
room very easily and very quickly interesting there's there is a lot of potential here for sure so cool they

00:51:01.359 --> 00:51:07.599
said that they're going to okay they said that the Johnson Space Center's

00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:11.640
active response gravity offload system

00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:14.119
Argos is um an excellent candidate to

00:51:11.640 --> 00:51:19.960
combine this VR system with a way of creating a sense of weightlessness which

00:51:16.680 --> 00:51:21.640
would be much easier when a user is in a

00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.440
virtual environment than when they're in a room is that when they're swimming

00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:28.599
around in the water um I'm actually it does to

00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:33.000
simulate a no I think this is a different one so here we go this is a

00:51:30.240 --> 00:51:38.319
picture of Argos right here a small robotic crane oh yeah yeah yeah I've

00:51:35.160 --> 00:51:40.280
always wanted to to like jump around

00:51:38.319 --> 00:51:47.079
with a small robotic crane getting rid of most of my body weight so in VR very

00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:49.440
cool that'd be so so so awesome I would

00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:54.920
I wish can we rig one of these up we we have we have beams up there I mean I

00:51:52.319 --> 00:51:59.240
know NASA's budget has been cut it's still a lot more than ours we could

00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:06.920
we could get a grant from NASA and let the astronauts come here to uh Siri BC

00:52:04.160 --> 00:52:11.280
Siri BC quite a quite a ways from Houston let's see John uh John told me

00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:15.920
he was going to Mark some of the topics that uh that he wanted to jump in on but

00:52:13.319 --> 00:52:20.280
it looks like he actually did not well did not do that

00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:25.520
well okay I have uh was there anything else that you wanted to that you want to

00:52:21.839 --> 00:52:28.079
talk about NASA or just about other I

00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:32.640
I'll look for one shall I but that that NASA thing is very cool I'd love to like

00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:37.960
see like training videos of that to see what they do with it you know be very

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:48.880
cool I'm stoked on that kind of stuff all right so d d OnePlus is back in the

00:52:44.640 --> 00:52:51.400
news H so the invite system is gone but

00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:58.680
uh lo and behold original article here is from phonearena.com the phone sold so

00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:06.400
well without the invite system that they actually have to Halt sales of the

00:53:01.240 --> 00:53:09.000
OnePlus 3 for more than a month in 24

00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:14.760
countries so in order to build inventory back up sales will be halted starting

00:53:11.799 --> 00:53:18.920
August 9th at 6 p.m. eastern Daylight time until September 12th for Austria

00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:22.960
Belgium Bulgaria Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Estonia France Greece Hong Kong

00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:28.280
Hungary Ireland Italy laia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Portugal

00:53:25.319 --> 00:53:32.839
Poland Romania Slovakia Slovenia and Spain oh that's fascinating so if you

00:53:30.640 --> 00:53:38.000
place an order before the sales halt your phone will go out on the estimated

00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:40.480
shipping date but uh in the meantime

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:45.359
they're just like yeah sorry we straight up do not have enough but we have one

00:53:43.160 --> 00:53:50.079
don't we a OnePlus 3 yep yeah they sent us a review

00:53:47.240 --> 00:53:55.040
sample um what you got oh oh sorry I wasn't paying attention uh you

00:53:52.160 --> 00:53:58.799
to I was listening to you talk I I can't it's hard to listen to someone talk and

00:53:57.040 --> 00:54:03.640
read at the same time which is why when you're editing a video you put as little

00:54:00.319 --> 00:54:05.480
text on the screen as possible fun fact

00:54:03.640 --> 00:54:13.119
all right our next story here is from DSL reports Comcast says it wants to

00:54:08.160 --> 00:54:14.640
charge bron bron band Bron band I don't

00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:20.440
even know what that accent was Broadband users more for privacy so Comcast this

00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:27.160
week informed the FCC that it should be able to charge Broadband users looking

00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.160
to protect their privacy

00:54:27.640 --> 00:54:34.559
wow so the FCC has been crafting new privacy rules for Broadband that would

00:54:31.720 --> 00:54:38.520
force isps to disclose exactly what they're collecting and selling it's

00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:45.079
almost like the FCC is on the consumer side for a change oh wow imagine that um

00:54:42.040 --> 00:54:47.880
and also working to provide optout tools

00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:53.480
for customers can you just use a VPN and just get around all this

00:54:50.200 --> 00:54:56.760
nonsense um it'll be a bit slower yes

00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:58.640
and no more I'm not sure that it's a

00:54:56.760 --> 00:55:02.079
perfect solution but yes it would get around a lot but then you're basically

00:55:00.200 --> 00:55:05.240
paying for internet and then also extra internet on top of your internet so

00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:12.760
basically you are paying more for additional privacy right but I wouldn't

00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:15.240
trust Comcast at all ever so they're

00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:20.920
going to say oh you have more privacy now because you pay more we'll be fine

00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:25.240
like every time you see Comcast's name in the news it's something that they've

00:55:22.319 --> 00:55:30.280
done to screw over their customers right so basically in the news today is them

00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:33.839
saying it's well within our rights to screw over our customers so what they're

00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:39.240
saying they're arguing that charging consumers more money to opt out of Snoop

00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:43.000
advertising so collecting user data and selling it to advertisers should be

00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:47.599
considered a perfectly acceptable business practice what I want to know is

00:55:45.520 --> 00:55:52.559
where it came from in the first place like like when did I ever aside from you

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:57.599
know at the bottom of your statement oh by the way our terms of service have been updated yeah when did I ever say it

00:55:55.960 --> 00:56:01.960
was in the first place when did this ever become the status quo no but that's

00:55:59.720 --> 00:56:05.640
that you just explained it your their terms of service are sitting somewhere

00:56:04.319 --> 00:56:10.119
and you're just supposed to read them every time they've been updated and uh

00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:13.160
and then be mad and then do nothing because Comcast is the only prider in

00:56:11.680 --> 00:56:16.640
your area because they pushed out all the little guys so this is great and

00:56:14.680 --> 00:56:22.200
then hope for Google Fiber they go on to say thanks Comcast a bargained for

00:56:19.359 --> 00:56:25.240
exchange of information for service is a perfectly acceptable and widely used

00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:29.319
model throughout the US economy including the internet e system here's

00:56:27.680 --> 00:56:36.200
what I want to know when did the bargaining take place and and where was

00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.960
the part where I got offered a

00:56:36.200 --> 00:56:41.160
discount oh that's what they're calling it now no no no no that's not what

00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:45.559
they're calling it oh yeah oh yeah where was the part where I got offered a

00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:50.039
discount in the first placeing when they started augmenting their revenue stream

00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:56.319
that is the bill that I pay which I don't cuz I don't use Comcast it so it

00:56:54.160 --> 00:57:03.440
would cost more without this exactly exctly which it wouldn't by the way yeah

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:05.720
it's like it I I think about big picture

00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:10.599
things like this sometimes where it's like a company can exist it it seems it

00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:15.760
it feels like CU this is only the ones that you hear of in in two different

00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:19.680
like diametrically opposed States either completely screwing over their customers

00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:25.319
for as much money as they can possibly get and forcing their way into you know

00:57:23.200 --> 00:57:27.720
politics and whatever or being really nice to their customers and customers

00:57:26.799 --> 00:57:31.920
really like them and that's why they make a lot of money it seems like it's

00:57:29.839 --> 00:57:34.559
only ever one or the other again probably because that's the only ones

00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:40.240
you hear of but it's like how does a company like Comcast continue to exist

00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:44.280
when all you ever hear about them is just pissed off people is it because

00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:51.920
they have their fingers in all the politics where you have like it's

00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:54.760
ah it's like the human race makes

00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:59.599
progress 10 steps forward nine steps back we're getting

00:57:56.720 --> 00:58:03.960
there eventually but it's so frustrating to see the obvious answers to things

00:58:02.319 --> 00:58:09.799
just be ignored and it's like you know what don't screw over your customers and

00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:11.319
they'll it'll be fine they'll be fine

00:58:09.799 --> 00:58:15.960
everything will work out in the end long term Comcast isn't even the first one to

00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:21.599
do this uh AT&T actually launched uh as a $30 or more premium if you wanted to

00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:24.839
uh opt out of their internet preferences which is a deep packet inspection

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:29.400
program that tracks your bring Behavior around the internet so that was back in

00:58:27.359 --> 00:58:32.559
Austin in late 2014 when they launched their gigabit internet

00:58:37.160 --> 00:58:42.520
service um oh I had picked something let

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:47.720
me see here um the next Google Maps update could

00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:50.920
show how bad parking is yeah that would be actually very very useful uh I'm

00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:55.680
going to go ahead and pull up the original article here which is from Daily Mail while you go through this fun

00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.960
fact from my father who is a city planner

00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:03.160
every car that you add to like the

00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:07.039
general like a city requires seven parking spaces you don't have to justify

00:59:05.680 --> 00:59:10.559
that I know we we've had this conversation distributed across across

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:16.640
the city because you have to park at home you have to park at the supermarket you have to park at the movie theater

00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:19.400
you have to park at the bar it's like seven on average like kind of moving

00:59:18.520 --> 00:59:27.400
around a little bit you should be parking at the bar I don't carry on yes anyway uh leure

00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:31.039
Center it that's just that's just a fun fact I actually haven't looked much into

00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:34.559
it I just believe my father when he says these things but I'll get more info on

00:59:32.839 --> 00:59:38.880
that if it's disputed anyway let's see if Taran learns not to listen to his dad

00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:44.720
before he turns 30 so I plan to lie to my kids about all

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:46.480
kinds of hilarious stuff you're a h okay

00:59:44.720 --> 00:59:51.119
pull up the thing so people can look at it okay next Google Maps update can show

00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:55.559
how bad parking is it's per currently in beta could include text based alerts

00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:58.520
informing users to parking shortages at their Des destination oh that's great

00:59:57.240 --> 01:00:05.280
cuz it already tells you if the store is going to be closed by the time you get there yep it's not always accurate but

01:00:01.720 --> 01:00:07.400
sure we'll allow for you to just these

01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:11.760
little comments man will allow for you to account for both traffic and parking

01:00:09.319 --> 01:00:15.799
scarcity at your destination service will likely be based on total number of

01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:20.039
spaces available in a given area taking into account time of day and nearby

01:00:17.640 --> 01:00:23.640
public events oh yeah cuz I went to the laundromat one day and it's like where's

01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:27.799
all the parking oh my goodness I can't get through um update also includes is a

01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:33.079
feature that will fix when you accidentally reorient the direction of

01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:35.599
the map what whatever keeping it always

01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:40.119
in point keeping it in always Point North mode no whatever more details to

01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:45.680
come I like that cuz I freaking hate that yeah yeah when I pinch to zoom in

01:00:42.319 --> 01:00:47.440
or out and it's like no that's not how I

01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:50.480
want to look at it that's not just for the parking that's for the whole map

01:00:48.839 --> 01:00:54.400
yeah okay well then that's great I was like why is it just for parking so I'm

01:00:52.839 --> 01:01:00.480
really interested to see how this impacts businesses m because in the in

01:00:57.680 --> 01:01:04.799
the analog age people would just have to like remember oh there's not much

01:01:02.520 --> 01:01:09.160
parking on Robson during evening and on Sunday Costco in the evening is nuts

01:01:07.720 --> 01:01:13.680
right you would just have to remember stuff like that but you know what if you

01:01:10.839 --> 01:01:18.920
drive a bike you never ever have these problems no one on earth drives a bike

01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:21.240
ride a bike um but now what you'll be

01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:26.559
able to do as a consumer so so like the digital consumer the millennial consumer

01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:32.319
is going to all of a sudden start shifting business away like just Google

01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:36.240
making this one update the millennial consumer is going to start going

01:01:34.319 --> 01:01:41.599
somewhere else in the first place yeah for the sake of finding

01:01:38.720 --> 01:01:45.119
easier parking I see it happening well you know what I do whenever I drive

01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:49.720
anywhere which isn't often because I bike and whatever whatever but I will

01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:55.119
always do Google Map instructions to my destination because it routes you around

01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.599
traffic blockages in theory well I've had very good

01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:04.240
luck with it for the most part I've had some experiences not that long ago

01:02:00.680 --> 01:02:06.680
sitting in traffic with a red line

01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:10.039
completely between me and my destination um do you remember that day tell you to

01:02:08.680 --> 01:02:15.000
get off do you remember the day you guys did the Hot Dog Channel Super Fun hot

01:02:12.640 --> 01:02:18.000
dog Olympics no I did wasn't I didn't participate in that oh okay well I was

01:02:16.279 --> 01:02:22.760
trying to get back to the office and there was a massive accident oh yeah and

01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:26.799
so I fired up Google Maps as I realized it was slowing down and it didn't I saw

01:02:24.520 --> 01:02:32.839
a red line all the way so it knew it was taking a long time but my update like or

01:02:30.200 --> 01:02:36.920
sorry my estimated time of arrival only ticked one minute for every minute that

01:02:34.680 --> 01:02:42.480
passed like it didn't update to say that it was going to take longer you know

01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:45.480
what at all the system is in in progress

01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:47.520
they're working on it what can I say it

01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:53.520
works better to have it open than to not have it so I'll always check I'll always

01:02:50.279 --> 01:02:56.000
check with it avoided lots of congestion

01:02:53.520 --> 01:03:02.680
that way jazz hands um I do have an update this

01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:05.920
is really important um Jaz because we

01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:07.880
talked about this on a previous WAN Show

01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:12.039
and the facts of the matter are a little bit more complicated than they

01:03:09.520 --> 01:03:21.079
originally made out to be by some uh Western media Publications using vpns

01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:23.640
what UAE residents need to know so it's

01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:29.400
not always illegal to be very clear that is not what happened sorry about that

01:03:26.640 --> 01:03:33.799
um the legality actually hasn't changed and not all residents in the UAE who use

01:03:31.839 --> 01:03:38.079
the technology could face imprisonment and fines so the confusion surrounding

01:03:36.279 --> 01:03:42.799
the impact of the law stemmed from inaccurate reporting by Foreign news

01:03:39.720 --> 01:03:44.400
websites according to a UAE based lawyer

01:03:42.799 --> 01:03:49.559
so what has been amended in the cyber crime law is the amount of fines that

01:03:46.680 --> 01:03:56.200
offenders will face in addition to the existing provision on

01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:58.000
imprisonment so senior associate at C Co

01:03:56.200 --> 01:04:01.240
suggested so as a lawyer suggested that private individuals aside from corporate

01:03:59.720 --> 01:04:07.319
organizations don't run the risk of going to jail and paying a fine as long as they don't use a VPN to commit a

01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:11.440
crime oh that's all how would you know misuse of the technology may still be

01:04:09.799 --> 01:04:16.279
punishable well basically what they're saying it basically what they're doing

01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:20.119
is they're taking something that's very difficult to track and putting a

01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:23.880
horrendous punishment on it oh good so they can make an example out of whoever

01:04:21.520 --> 01:04:27.960
gets caught cuz it fines up to like half a million US Dollars and imprisonment

01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:35.279
for like years so you just have to find a VPN that does not keep logs or at

01:04:31.720 --> 01:04:37.200
least says that they does not keep logs

01:04:35.279 --> 01:04:41.319
and who really knows with all the gag orders going around would you would you

01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:45.200
how knowledgeable I am about something sort of would you bet half a million

01:04:43.319 --> 01:04:48.119
dollars on any of that that's what they're that's what they're half a

01:04:46.799 --> 01:04:52.119
million dollar fine that's what they want you to consider when you're like I

01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:57.359
just want to you know pirat some movies or I could you know be in The Slammer

01:04:54.480 --> 01:05:03.079
and I I mean there's been a lot of million there's been a lot of uh debate

01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:06.279
about the sort of creating very very

01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:07.960
harsh punishments for crimes um and

01:05:06.279 --> 01:05:11.480
whether that makes more sense than Correctional Facilities especially

01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:15.279
around the death penalty and and also just like a general little bit of a

01:05:13.520 --> 01:05:19.640
punishment for everyone rather than a huge punishment for some people yeah but

01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:24.520
the issue is catching them I guess so so there's been a lot of debate as to

01:05:21.359 --> 01:05:27.640
whether a whether stiffer penalties

01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:27.640
actually serve as a deterr

01:05:34.279 --> 01:05:39.200
well it's been it's been sort of demonstrated either way and it's an

01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:43.039
ongoing debate because it especially centers around the death penalty right

01:05:41.480 --> 01:05:46.400
yeah cuz yeah because there's no hope for rehabilitation with the death

01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:49.480
penalty yeah like that's it so and basically they're saying that there's

01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:54.880
you know oh well you should just make it the death penalty for everything because then no one will commit crimes because

01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:59.000
they'll die there's a Star Trek episode about that exactly so this has been a

01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:02.640
debate for decades literally decades um so I'm not sure if it'll end up working

01:06:00.640 --> 01:06:07.400
out for them in this case but I guess we shall find

01:06:04.720 --> 01:06:12.440
out this gives me some Hope For Humanity Facebook has tweaked their algorithm to

01:06:09.240 --> 01:06:15.000
show you less clickbait

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:21.079
woo so the original article here is from the BBC Facebook to suppress clickbait

01:06:18.359 --> 01:06:25.960
stories and Facebook let me tell you when they want to suppress something man

01:06:24.319 --> 01:06:32.319
do they know how to do that they suppress something so they created new

01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:34.760
guidelines around sponsored posts that

01:06:32.319 --> 01:06:37.480
make it so that we have to put hasht ad and we have to which was already the

01:06:36.240 --> 01:06:42.400
case yeah we already did that but we also have to tag on Facebook the company

01:06:40.799 --> 01:06:46.720
that sponsored it we have to tag their Facebook page okay and this is so that

01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:52.799
Facebook can basically turn around and offer that company a chance to promote

01:06:49.160 --> 01:06:56.520
that post oh yeah and what they do is

01:06:52.799 --> 01:06:58.079
they bury those posts like just oh

01:06:56.520 --> 01:07:02.119
because you put ad on them and because you put yeah yeah so they're making it

01:07:00.319 --> 01:07:06.760
oh yeah so their terms of service is that we have to identify it we have to

01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:12.160
identify who paid for it to them in a way that they can act on and then they

01:07:09.240 --> 01:07:17.760
will just crush the reach of it there is a whole there's two videos by Derek of

01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:23.039
veritasium that you can watch about it's called Facebook fraud where he talks

01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:24.640
about promoting a a page promoting a

01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:30.359
fake page and promoting his real page and how the more you pay in the more you

01:07:27.319 --> 01:07:32.480
need to pay in uh there's just a huge

01:07:30.359 --> 01:07:37.319
number of problems with this whole like Facebook incentivizing you having to pay

01:07:34.720 --> 01:07:41.920
them money to get any kind of visibility it reminds me a lot of

01:07:39.319 --> 01:07:48.000
microtransactions in games like Pokemon go for example where once you start

01:07:45.240 --> 01:07:52.880
paying to play you pretty much are stuck paying forever and it's just like more

01:07:50.279 --> 01:07:57.680
money and every single thing that you do pushes you more towards giving them

01:07:55.720 --> 01:08:02.119
money and it's like that's not fun for anybody we paid for Facebook reach once

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:07.039
did we y why did we do that I decided to try it what happened um we got a few

01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:10.760
more views on the post and then it prompted me to pay more to get more

01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:15.640
views oh what a surprise I just said that um and honestly compared to

01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:21.080
creating I mean this is something that I think for for Soulless imagination lless

01:08:18.719 --> 01:08:27.120
companies might make sense to pay for reach but for Content creators where our

01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:32.080
entire our entire business is making content that people actually care about

01:08:29.719 --> 01:08:38.440
for Content creators it is much much cheaper and more effective to just make

01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:41.279
good content yes uh the SEO thing for

01:08:38.440 --> 01:08:45.040
this is content is King but it doesn't help us when they intentionally Crush

01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:49.520
certain posts oh yeah well of course they will I mean they're just it's just

01:08:47.040 --> 01:08:53.440
I mean I stopped doing Facebook stuff like ages ago like they're not cool I'm

01:08:52.080 --> 01:08:59.600
surprised you ever Facebook used to be cool

01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:03.600
in the chat tell us about when Facebook was cool it used to be cool hold on

01:09:01.440 --> 01:09:07.440
we're going to just this nonsense we're going to St this hold on we're going to

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:11.279
stra pull this and they slow I don't remember what update it was I think it

01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:14.799
was like the timeline update where I was like okay I'm I'm sick of this now I'm

01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:19.400
not going to keep on going it was a great way to keep in contact with your

01:09:17.080 --> 01:09:25.040
high school buddies like if you watch the movie um what is it called social

01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:29.199
network or maybe the social network boom all right guys check it out check it out

01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:36.199
Facebook used to be cool very cool in that movie twitch chat says

01:09:31.839 --> 01:09:38.239
1990 uh icq was cool Myspace was cool it

01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:45.000
was cool it was also stupid but it was also cool um 2006 2009 year 1800 this is

01:09:43.440 --> 01:09:49.080
why we never consult twitch chat about anything by the way this is what you're

01:09:46.799 --> 01:09:52.719
learning the hard way well what a they today what what do you know what do I

01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:56.320
know I know not to ask twitch chat anything I was looking at the camera and

01:09:54.279 --> 01:10:03.840
asking that all right 55% of people are saying Facebook was

01:09:59.719 --> 01:10:05.520
cool ah with 45% on my team oh well you

01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:09.320
didn't add turnup in there so I think all the trolls are on your team the

01:10:07.400 --> 01:10:14.159
trolls are not on my team yeah they they like trolls are never on my team yeah

01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:20.360
they do not like me well okay the trolls love to hate on me it was

01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:23.560
cool all right well thank you very much do you want to throw uh John in here cuz

01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:28.520
there were a couple of things that I wanted presumably

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:32.440
I'm bringing my m& I'm going to jump right into our next topic here Euro oh

01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:37.239
thank you look it's like it's like a little &m

01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:43.840
Santa the M&M are a little salty I can't tell if that's like sweat or

01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:43.840
not

01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:51.760
anyway original article here is from eurogamer.net Hi l hey how's it going

01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:56.199
hey everyone we have so many hosts today I actually like this which one am my

01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:58.199
number three you're number three yeah

01:10:56.199 --> 01:11:04.159
the Xbox One S has a performance boost and it has

01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:08.320
been revealed and it has apparently been benchmarked by eurogamer.net have you

01:11:06.440 --> 01:11:12.120
looked into this one at all no I haven't I think all the most of the topics I

01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:17.960
wanted to do you do with tan so you didn't mark them I said I put them near

01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:19.920
the top oh I yeah I I didn't know if

01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:25.679
near the top meant at the top or like at the top next time put John I'm sorry John

01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:30.320
it's fine that's fine and we can talk about the Xbox One S let's do it so it

01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:39.080
was released August 2nd has a GPU clock speed of 914

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:42.040
MHz wow how many wow Vancouver 914 MHz

01:11:39.080 --> 01:11:48.400
okay that's up from 853 on the older version it supports 4K as well as HDR

01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:54.800
media and gaming it's amazing what you can do with uh what is that 61 MHz these

01:11:52.120 --> 01:12:00.719
days who made the GPU do we know uh it's still still AMD okay uh 4K Ultra HD

01:11:58.480 --> 01:12:05.639
Blu-ray and 4K video streaming are supported that's a positive that's a

01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:11.199
plus HDR supported for games and video I just said that I okay notes are

01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:13.400
redundant important Note HDMI 2.0 will

01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:19.400
not be included so 4K is only available and up to 30 FPS so still even now

01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:24.159
they're not putting HDMI 2 no when is this coming out so the thing to bear in

01:12:21.120 --> 01:12:26.360
mind is that this is based on an

01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:31.520
AMD oh I forget what the architecture it's but it's gcn whatever whatever

01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:35.719
revision uh which did not support so it's like a generation too old so it's a

01:12:33.639 --> 01:12:40.880
generation it's a gener yeah I think it's two two architectural Generations

01:12:38.280 --> 01:12:44.280
old but depending on how you divide up AMD's lineup given that they have

01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:49.480
products that are literally three generations old still in their lineup and they've been rebadged that have been

01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:55.920
rebadged it's really really hard to draw a clear a clear line it upscales 1080P

01:12:53.159 --> 01:13:00.480
or other content to 4K and Microsoft say some games ones that utilize Dynamic

01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:04.560
resolution and or unlocked frame rates may see a very minor performance

01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:07.679
Improvement our testing internally has shown this to be pretty minor and is

01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:11.840
only measurable on certain games so we didn't want to make it a selling point

01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:16.239
for the new console so yeah upscaling hasn't been a selling

01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:18.880
point for a while on basically anything so

01:13:19.080 --> 01:13:22.400
consoles is

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:30.000
this what do you think of the Xbox One

01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:31.280
S what's the price point do we know yeah

01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:36.360
it's out isn't it I don't know I don't care I have no idea what the price point

01:13:33.080 --> 01:13:39.400
is I'm sorry I pay I pay so little

01:13:36.360 --> 01:13:41.880
attention dbrand actually contacted me

01:13:39.400 --> 01:13:46.080
um recently asking if I wanted an Xbox One S with their skin on it for a review

01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:54.239
and I was like oh when's it coming he was like like I have it I'm like oh okay

01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:58.320
sorry so are we just giving this a gigantic a gigantic shrug and then I

01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:04.080
move on to there was one that I really wanted to talk to you about it was the

01:14:00.320 --> 01:14:05.280
6% Netflix tax for Pennsylvania right

01:14:04.080 --> 01:14:10.159
well I mean you know people compare the console

01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:13.199
and the PC space so much but I mean I really feel like consoles or for a

01:14:11.719 --> 01:14:17.480
different type of consumer they just want to plug something in and go for it

01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:23.239
and they don't care whoa oh that is so much better why was this up here Taran

01:14:19.639 --> 01:14:25.159
put it there yeah thank you jeez what

01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:30.600
are we going to do with that guy you tell me but he I don't know but uh so I

01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:36.040
mean in that vein I guess it would make I I think if you're in the console

01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:38.840
Market the price it might matter like a little bit less like oh you can get so

01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:42.600
much more performance on a PC for this amount of money but at the same time if

01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:46.679
you're saying oh I just want something I can plug in and go with and not have to

01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:51.560
worry about drivers or putting anything together and I want it to do 4K then

01:14:49.400 --> 01:14:55.600
there we go so basically the Xbox One S is just another console to you it

01:14:53.520 --> 01:15:01.800
doesn't matter that it's smaller or or like 60 MHz faster all right serious

01:14:59.679 --> 01:15:06.679
question let's move on to this one's pretty

01:15:02.679 --> 01:15:10.960
interesting there will be a 6% Netflix

01:15:06.679 --> 01:15:12.520
tax for citizens of

01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:16.480
Pennsylvania USA so you want to want to walk us

01:15:14.719 --> 01:15:22.120
through this the doc's here by the way so it's Netflix it's Hulu it's Spotify

01:15:19.360 --> 01:15:25.760
if you have a um if you have like a Spotify Premium subscription so

01:15:24.360 --> 01:15:29.480
basically all stuff is going to get taxed now any kind of streaming media

01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:35.280
thing so see what I want to understand is what

01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:39.960
would be the justification for attacks on streaming

01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:44.120
media the state might be broke like a lot of the states

01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:48.360
are hey here's an easy way to make money let's just tax this thing that everyone

01:15:45.480 --> 01:15:52.760
else is watching instead of paying for cable so really that do you think it's

01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:58.000
that simple so do you think it's as simple as them not get okay a cable

01:15:55.360 --> 01:16:01.120
subscription is closer to $100 a month right do you think it's as simple as

01:16:00.080 --> 01:16:05.400
them not getting there and I'm going to throw an arbitrary number because sales

01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:08.480
tax varies wildly from state to state and even within Canada actually we'll

01:16:07.120 --> 01:16:13.520
real quick for you that it says right here done to help offset a$ 1.3 billion

01:16:11.360 --> 01:16:16.880
hole in the state budget okay there you have it but please continue so do you

01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:22.280
think this is as simple enough a calculation that we could just go okay

01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:26.560
so a cable bill used to be $100 a month and let's say they had a

01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:30.520
10% uh you know know sales tax and so they get 10 bucks for your cable bill so

01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:37.719
as people stop spending money on cable and they start buying Netflix subscriptions for $7 or $8 a month now

01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:40.880
they have to just charge like a $7 or $8 Levy to make up the difference I mean is

01:16:39.040 --> 01:16:46.280
that what's happening here I don't know I mean you already get

01:16:43.719 --> 01:16:49.719
stuck with like however many SE charges on your cable bill they might not call

01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:55.159
them taxes but they're often like government fees or like something or

01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:57.239
another so I don't know I think I think

01:16:55.159 --> 01:17:00.840
States recently have gotten very very upset when there's certain things that

01:16:59.080 --> 01:17:04.760
people just buy just like you would buy anything else with or just how you would

01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:09.840
buy anything else and they don't get don't get a cut of the taxes for it like

01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:13.679
crossb shopping yes online yeah back in North Carolina where I'm from they

01:17:11.480 --> 01:17:17.639
recently started having the Amazon tax they call it a use tax but it's really

01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:22.480
just another sales tax where if you get an Amazon receipt and they didn't charge

01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:28.800
you tax on it you're supposed to supposed to every year say oh I bought

01:17:25.639 --> 01:17:31.199
$30 worth of Widgets or toilet paper or

01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:34.719
whatever else from Amazon and and so you owe the state like you know a dollar or

01:17:33.040 --> 01:17:38.400
two on your tax return but almost Nobody Does it it's kind of a joke but they

01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:43.440
still try I mean that's the thing that's going to make that that makes law so

01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:49.320
complicated in the United States because that's what it is it's a United States

01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:56.679
it's not it it's okay don't take this the wrong way but it's not as much of a

01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:58.960
country as it is you're a glomerate of

01:17:56.679 --> 01:18:03.679
like city states but but like actual States cities that's part of part of why

01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:07.239
the Civil War happened talking about it for a long time so yeah it's not like

01:18:05.639 --> 01:18:13.440
America's happy about this situation either so so I mean here in Canada it

01:18:11.040 --> 01:18:19.239
got as it was as simple as the federal government said no this will not fly

01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:21.920
this happened about four or five 5 years ago oh they tried to attack streaming

01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:28.880
services up here did that happen no not streaming services um crossb uh crossb

01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:31.360
online and basically what they did is

01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:35.719
they put Theus on the retailer they said okay well fine NCI you're located in

01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:39.960
British Columbia good for you you are now responsible for collecting

01:18:37.080 --> 01:18:46.000
provincial sales tax from every Province and submitting that to those provinces

01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:51.159
done and it was implemented within I think about a year that seems a lot

01:18:48.400 --> 01:18:56.239
simpler but I don't know I don't know if it's just because we have so many more

01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:57.840
people or what but um but I I also

01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:01.159
understand what you're saying you know the federal character of the US and oh

01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:05.159
like every state needs to decide how they're going to try to get their cut so

01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:08.239
very very interesting to me yeah it's not going to come out to be a ton of

01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:11.520
money like if you pay for you know if you send what like 10 bucks a month on a

01:19:09.679 --> 01:19:14.800
Netflix subscription over the course of a year that doesn't work out to be a

01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:18.480
whole lot but still you know there's going to be people who are angry about

01:19:16.080 --> 01:19:22.920
that you know so all right well I actually don't have

01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:25.480
that much left I'm I'm sorry I screwed up and did the topics that you wanted to

01:19:24.440 --> 01:19:30.600
help earli on in the show next time we do this I'll I'll make it more clear is

01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:34.760
there anything else you wanted to jump through did we talk about the set top box thing from the cop no we didn't

01:19:33.440 --> 01:19:42.040
actually we can do that one as our last topic sure uh hold on let me just pull

01:19:37.120 --> 01:19:45.000
it up here set oh crap contrl F set is

01:19:42.040 --> 01:19:48.080
not the best um offset set toop there we go all right so the original article

01:19:46.639 --> 01:19:51.080
here is from RS Technica I'm just going to pull this up while John walks you

01:19:49.639 --> 01:19:55.040
guys through what's going on with this this baby right here oh gra as soon as

01:19:52.920 --> 01:20:00.000
you said it my like Google doc jumped everywhere but let's find it again okay

01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:05.199
so I'll start oh there we go okay okay go ahead okay so right now there's a

01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:10.080
dispute between the SEC and the US copyright office about whether cable

01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:13.199
companies should be forced to unlock their set toop boxes so right now if you

01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:18.320
have a cable subscription at least in the US you get like a little box that sits either above or below your TV you

01:20:16.679 --> 01:20:22.400
hook it up with an HDMI cable but everything that comes into the box is

01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:25.920
copy protected in some form or another so it's not like in the good old days

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.880
where we could just have a VCR record anything you want to onto a blank tape

01:20:28.040 --> 01:20:33.840
um is you can't just you know plug in a USB sticker a computer and say okay

01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:36.960
record to be clear there are ways around it there are ways around it but if

01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:40.960
you're just trying to do it without implementing any kind of you know

01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:45.719
subversion mechanism or whatever then yeah you can't do it so and it is

01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:47.199
illegal to copy encrypted content but

01:20:45.719 --> 01:20:52.280
that's a whole other conversation yes it is okay so basically what's so what's

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:57.320
going on now so they're trying to Wrangle over whether they're going to

01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:59.120
adopt this this um SEC rule um the SEC

01:20:57.320 --> 01:21:03.040
is being a little bit more Pro consumer in this case they want to force the

01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:08.360
cable companies to say yo you have to unlock your setti boxes so if a paying

01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:12.600
customer wants to watch whatever it is Game of Thrones whatever else um and

01:21:10.440 --> 01:21:16.520
they're not in front of their TV at the time it's being shown but they also they

01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:20.679
want to watch it like somewhere else they don't want to DVR it they have to

01:21:18.719 --> 01:21:24.800
let the consumer be able to do that right and the copyright office is saying

01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:28.880
no we can't because Zer just going to crap all over the copyright owner's

01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:32.440
rights and there's no way there's no way to like license us out correctly and all

01:21:30.639 --> 01:21:35.159
this other stuff um so they're try they're trying to figure that out right

01:21:33.679 --> 01:21:41.320
now so ah and I mean you got to remember too

01:21:38.400 --> 01:21:46.080
that the cable providers are obviously going to be putting pressure on anyone

01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:50.080
that they possibly can to salvage more ways for them to make Revenue I mean if

01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:54.040
they could sell the ability to stream it to your phone to yourself while it's

01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:56.840
happening while you're on the bus I'm sure theyd love to do that don't don't

01:21:55.560 --> 01:22:01.520
some of them already do that I believe so yes yeah like the on demand video and all that but they're trying to they're

01:21:59.679 --> 01:22:06.440
trying to like increase or the SEC rule is designed to try to increase

01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:10.280
flexibility for cable customers and I remember that well I don't remember

01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:13.360
because I was either not alive or very young with this happened but we actually

01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:19.560
studied this a little bit in law school when the uh VCR came out and that was

01:22:16.120 --> 01:22:22.040
like the latest and greatest thing uh TV

01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:25.960
TV studios and movie studios and cable providers were concerned that oh this is

01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.679
going to lead incredibly rampant copyright infringement this is going to

01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:34.199
just you know undermine the entire system so it end up going to court and

01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:39.960
we all kind of know how that turned out people used VCRs anyway to record URL or

01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:44.400
whatever people watched back in the 90s and everything was okay the show is

01:22:42.120 --> 01:22:49.360
called Family Matters and people were still buying cable subscriptions so this

01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:53.159
is this is kind of similar but I think here the concern might be a bit

01:22:50.679 --> 01:22:57.239
different because back in the '90s you weren't just going to send out 2 million

01:22:55.679 --> 01:23:00.120
free copies of a TV show because you felt like it but these days it takes

01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:04.679
that amount of time to upload something onto the internet so and it's also a lot

01:23:02.120 --> 01:23:09.280
more user friendly to record these days um like back then you had to you had to

01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:14.159
hover over your VCR and what's the difference between LP and EP I don't

01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:17.239
know what this is oh no Long play versus

01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:20.480
extended play why are they named like

01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:22.280
this um so I think that's pretty much it

01:23:20.480 --> 01:23:27.360
for the W show then guys thank you very much for tuning in thanks to our special

01:23:24.040 --> 01:23:28.480
guest joined us John Taran and Nick

01:23:27.360 --> 01:23:36.239
actually I don't want to thank Taran thanks to our special guests who joined us John and Nick and uh Taran was here

01:23:33.719 --> 01:23:40.880
too and we will see you again next week there goes the train same bat Time same

01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:42.880
bat

01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:52.400
Channel there goes that training fantastic always it is really

01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:54.199
nice uh it is really nice streaming

01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:56.150
without any technical difficulties I'm really

01:23:55.719 --> 01:24:03.600
yeah I can't believe closer to on time than I have

01:24:00.480 --> 01:24:03.600
expl why say

01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:11.920
that and just like I've got everything working now and the stream computer

01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:16.719
isn't being flaky so like volume is all leveled correctly before the show starts

01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:16.719
that's good good