Google Makes YouTube MORE Confusing!! - WAN Show May.18 2018
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2019-05-06
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10,438 words · ~52 min read
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are you ready are you ready for the show wait it's
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good because we're live oh that whole time
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no no no just oh just just now i've been saying are are you
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ready for for a while it's not like an impression or anything it's just like uh
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oh i thought you said it you said it so many times that i just assumed it was
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something i didn't get i thought it was like muppets or something no no no no no
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if i was gonna do muppets i'd probably go like four committee frog here maybe
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we're going to do the rancho like this oh that's a great jordan peterson impression jordan peterson i don't even
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know who that is is that a reference that i should get is he famous yeah or she i guess jordan's
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one of those names that can go either way uh all right so we've got a great
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show for you guys today um
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well i mean james is here so it'll be an adequate show for you guys today uh
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we've got new google glasses
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evga is apparently ditching cds next
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week a mop just
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we do actually we didn't even have a mock we had a broom we didn't have a mob we had a broom
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handle with a wig on it almost as good
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uh a dozen employees quit google in protest against a military project and
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what else we got possibly new google glasses
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it's still prototype phase and evga
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not giving new dvds anymore gonna give you usb sticks instead wait how do you
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not have the youtube red thing in here that is like the biggest news of this
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week i go to our forum i look what's on the front page of the
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forum then when i exhaust the forum i go to my other favorite
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ours tech crunch the verge bloomberg
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that must be on there it's not okay well we're gonna talk
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about that too you're gonna wing it and i'm gonna sit back and just take it in
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he's good yeah music
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yeah you're just you're just talking over the music
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it's good it's terrible no it's good no it's terrible people hate it no they
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love it have you ever watched you ever not been on the land show and
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watched it because i lived my life before i worked here doing that
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and i liked it i liked when you guys talked during that
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p.i.a i think you were the only one oh yeah we probably should have had that on
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the screening before we hired people like do you like it or dislike it when
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we talk over the intro music on the WAN Show and that so
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that's disqualifying if you like it so here's the thing
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when we hire we usually do some kind of a skill
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testing quiz and there are answers that if you get
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them wrong your application gets immediately put
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into a bin this guy likes the matrix sequels
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i was younger than you when they came out for one
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and it might only be three years but that makes a difference when you're talking about like a 14 year old no
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they were so bad
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they should have okay they're they're different they're they're different okay
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what were there were there two sequels or three sequels well there are three
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movies so two sequels okay so which hold on a
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second so reloaded and revolutions both came
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out in 2003 and is reloaded the one with the two
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weird twins yes well they're in both movies okay so
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don't take this the wrong way but i didn't even make it
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through the second one let alone watch the third one which i heard was
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much worse the third one is worse okay
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you're throwing the baby out with the bath water because yes
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hear me out okay what's the baby the baby is like one of the best car chases
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in cinema history kick-ass fight scenes like there's parts of the matrix that
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aren't just the like counter culture and cool story
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there's parts of it that are making a good movie like the kung fu and the fight choreography
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choreography or sweet and they're really sweet in that movie yeah so the is the
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photography good too the photography the lithography what about the
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cinematography the cinomatic wow i can't even do that
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one i had to think about it also okay there's a part where he fights a pile of
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cg agent smith that looks like dog junk now
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but that was good when it came out it was
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cutting edge oh cool lordy um so
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okay i'll admit that watching that then
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i didn't get that because okay honestly
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the worst the worst instances of like
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cgi aging badly and it really
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taking you out of the experience are when you see the evolution of
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computer graphics over the course of a series of movies
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yeah okay so i think like lord of the rings did a pretty good job of this
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where even though the movies were released years ago i felt them at the same time did they film all the time
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they would have done the like post-processing later though
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like i know for a fact that scene in return of the king where they're like
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surrounded by the entire army of like orcs and stuff
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i know for a fact that was done like towards the end and that scene probably
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wouldn't have even been possible with the computer hardware that was available
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when fellowship came out like that was a really really demanding
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thing because every single one of those had like some kind of like reactionary
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ai or something so i i heard they i remember reading this article where they
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had a really hard time getting the um the heroes to not like
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try to break out and run away or something like they had to force them to stay
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inside this ring because they because there were like
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self-preservation things anyway apparently it was part of the way that they did like the really large scale uh
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like overviews of the battlefield anyway um
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so one of the series that really suffered from this for me
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is uh oh oh oh oh oh oh people are
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people are spoilers we're talking about the lord of the rin and the matrix 1999
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people um uh people are mad because we're not
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talking about tech okay we are talking about technology and movies
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technically that is tech also like the venn diagram
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is almost completely overlapped with this audience and lord of the rings and
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these movies like how can you anyway anyway okay so uh where was i going
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there's right the harry potter movies because not only were the first two and
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especially the first one done like before the later ones because
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obviously that's how it works um
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except star wars so okay that's the thing uh
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shut up not only that but they were way lower
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budget like you can really tell looking up and you're like oh wow they like
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weren't even really trying with some of this stuff i remember being a child and
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seeing the first one and thinking that it was pretty good me too control came
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on screen but like it's cutting edge for the time that's in the second one but oh
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wait is that no you're right that isn't the first one yeah so so yeah it was no
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no i don't even think that was top of the line at the time but it was like pretty good so they were lower budget
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they were done earlier and i went back and re-watched the entire thing because
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they had like a box at costco with the whole thing and i bought it because i'm
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an idiot um and i was like wow these are kids movies
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and then prisoner of azkaban rolls around you're like oh
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yeah now the best one yeah now they're like real movies all of a sudden
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um so do you think they should do a re-release like they do with star wars
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when they up like remaster it make the graphics better you know what
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because aside from daniel ratcliffe
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emma whatever her name is watson thank you and then
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redhead whatever yeah if anyone knows universal ginge the most famous ginger
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ever yeah what does he like drive a bus now or something what yeah i heard you
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like got out of show business and you just wanted to like drive a bus that'd
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be sweet yeah daniel day lewis moved to italy for like five years just make shoes at one point yeah anyway um
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because aside from their acting getting markedly better also
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like you could probably you could you could re-cgi and i think you could
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actually make it a significantly more immersive movie she had george lucas on it he should be
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on the team just oversee it you know he's got experience in this he
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does a good job he does a hell of a job but he undertakes those projects anyway
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back to agent smith um i will agree with you that at the time that didn't pull me
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out of the movie like i felt like that's pretty cool wow it really looks like
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he's fighting a bunch of agent smiths that was still a terrible movie well
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that's the thing is a lot of people with the immersion not being broken for me a lot of people just hate the fact that he
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fought a bunch of agents oh i was actually okay with that because i was also a kid okay yeah
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no it was i don't that's like far from the worst part of that movie it was just
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what is the worst part is that when he has powers outside of the matrix at the
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end spoiler uh because that's i think like the biggest
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division between the first one and the sequels you know what i'm gonna be honest with
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you i don't remember it well enough i just remember it being freaky you're
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just bandwagoning all the people who hate it you should watch it again
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the cards okay look i watched the first one again
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like a couple years ago that last weekend and it's so bad oh it's awesome
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no it's not moving on no it is so bad
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like there's no way i would like the second one if the first one has aged
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that poorly it's so cheesy the leather like the leather is not cool anymore no
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oh no it's not and the worst part is that like i've seen keanu keanu keanu
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actually act reasonably well i'm sure of it can't recall it right now can you say
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woe as good as he says woe in that movie
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i feel like i have to try
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i just i just jumped i just jumped from the building we're standing on to
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another skyscraper across the way whoa
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it wasn't bad that wasn't bad what a dick i know what you remind me of
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this pickle ad that i'm looking at you know what that's you an angry green dick
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right there that's you which one left or right uh
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you know what you're the shorter one huh there
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a little bit a little girthier though take that
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all right all right why don't we do an actual tech topic at some point here so
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uh the verge has an article here on a
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reported google glass it'll be an ar headset and
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oh wow i was going to say it looks just as bad no no that's not that's the
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original i wait no that's i hesitate to even call it a new google
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glass because i suspect that they're going to change it all together
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that probably wouldn't be a terrible thing because it is impossible not to
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look like a complete jackass wearing that thing
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yeah so my theories about why the first one failed have to do exactly with
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the things that they they thought were highlights they thought it was so good
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that the camera was up and out of your eye so you had to
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look up at it to see it you mean the screen the camera around the screen but i mean
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the screen you're right um but that makes it so useless because
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what you want is like a mixed reality you want all the digital stuff to be
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right there superimposed that's what they're doing with this one it's more
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like hololens okay but it's untethered
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self-contained it'll have cameras and microphones and it'll use the same new
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qualcomm chips as the upcoming hololens so it's a qsc603 four core chip based on
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an ARM architecture it'll be built by taiwanese computer maker quanta and is
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apparently still in the prototyping stage so is that all we know about it
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right now i think so i think that's that's basically i would say it's
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probably on the same bit of production cycle as the the rumored apple what's it
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called project titan their glasses hmm
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whose do you think will be better
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because google will have a much better ai i mean siri i swear siri has actually
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gotten dumber over the last few years
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i would think that apples would maybe be a better hardware product and their ar
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their ar kit ar stuff is quite good but
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it will certainly be tethered with the iphone because apple now makes products
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to squeeze more money out of iphone users whereas this being purportedly
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untethered like i'm reading that as completely
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standalone device you don't even need to have a phone if that's true
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then it has the assistant on it to be useful right
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and that's a whole different game that's apples and oranges at that point
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man i don't even like i don't i'm just trying to here okay here's my issue with
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augmented reality is like
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you know what i actually this is unusual but i want to hear from twitch chat
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i want you guys to start throwing some some some messages in the twitch chat
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let me know what
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and you can't you can't hedge you can't hedge okay you gotta pick one
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what is one thing that you want
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ar glasses to do that would make you buy
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and i'm gonna throw a price point at you let's say they're not cheap i'm gonna
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say 500 us dollars oh i thought you're gonna say a thousand no 500 i think 500
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is reasonable so 500 us dollars and you
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pull the trigger immediately what's the feature
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go so are you ready with one because i've got one if you're right you go you let
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me go first okay so for me
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one of the things that i have like i i can't think of anything personally that
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would inspire me to spend that kind of money because my entire life pretty much
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revolves around my phone screen or my computer screen
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and i've i don't find myself having a desire to overlay information on top of
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a screen with a screen like that's not really a thing i get up in the morning i
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like check the news on my phone i ate my breakfast i take my kids to school i
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drive so i'm driving then i get to work i sit down in front of my computer or
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i'm shooting in which case i'll have my phone with me if i need to like send out
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a quick tweet or whatever something you won't be able to do with glasses anyway
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then i drive home then i spend time with my kids then i am on a screen or or not
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on a screen ideally that that's it so i'm never that far away if i like really
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need to you know look something up and i've smartwatched too of course
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for me the justification would be
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business okay so when i'm traveling if i had the
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ability to be at like a um
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some kind of a cocktail mixer or something or if i walked into a business
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meeting um or like the suite at computex
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for ASUS and this thing starts recognizing people
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that are on my social networks so then all i have to do is like add people to
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facebook or linkedin yes there's an app that does something like that yeah okay
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but here's the thing it needs to do it well so it needs to be able to go okay here's
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their name here's uh a couple things about them
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here's the last email that you exchanged with them if applicable like it needs to
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be able to aggregate all of this data and help me avoid embarrassing
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situations where like i'm like yeah it was really nice to meet you and
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they're like we've had three meetings over the last
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you know eight years i'm just like well that's enough meetings that i should
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feel really bad but in my defense
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when i go to these types of shows i usually meet anywhere from 200 to 500
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people in a span of a week and i'm sorry but unless you you have like bright
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orange hair on one side and bright purple hair on the other side i'm
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probably not going to remember you that's how max got hired by the way she
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was the most memorable applicant no i'm just kidding i actually wasn't involved in the
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problem what you're describing sounds to me like what the facebook app for that
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form factor would be yeah and it's consistent with google's
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ultimate vision which is not only like here can i jump in because
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these are these are going away too quickly can i jump in with some other
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people's things uh sorry hold hold that so oh man
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some people are asking for unreasonable things like complete replacement of your
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smartphone and smartwatch input there's no the input isn't there i don't think
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that makes any sense okay google maps with ar
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yeah i can see that having a value that would be sweet the navigation is just
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right over top of the road yeah all right but really 500 bucks
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you'd buy it for that like how often do you really navigate somewhere exactly if
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i was an uber driver maybe yeah so again that's a professional use though
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um google search info
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okay wow holy crap this is respecting
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women way too fast if this device respected women i'd buy it like that
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dash cam feature like shadow play being able to go back
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and record any moment in your life just recording everything there's an episode
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of dark mirror like that or black mirror you don't want that
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yeah i could see it being useful but it's also a big problem when does that
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oh wow relationship status
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i could see a lot of people buying it for that that would be sweet like if
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basically like the the tinder app for that form factor you walk around it's
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just like yep that's a tinder user oh wow that okay
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imagine like real world tinder people walking around with these headsets just
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like oh wow and you could swipe with your head so you just look at people and be
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like no no
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nope like you're walking up to someone you like you see them there's a thing
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over your head you both know the others on tinder they're looking at you going like this you're like nah like you make
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eye contact across the room and you're both just like
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yeah um a lot of people are saying what a desk though nope a lot of people are
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saying porn but like why like why do you who would want to be
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walking around with like a raging erection
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because they're like watching porn while they're on the bus like what is the
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point of that like i know i know okay so here's the thing it's like i
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think most people are probably just saying that to be funny
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but i'm sure at least a handful of you
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i'm sure at least a handful of you will legitimately would watch porn on a plane
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or on a bus or whatever if you could
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and to those people i would say really like
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really like i i think i think
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you know what i think i'm not going to get into imagine all the extensions you could get all the hilarious filters you
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could get where like someone's talking to you and you just see objects around
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their head like okay wang's coming at you wangs around Linus
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viewing schematics and diagrams like large scale schematics and diagrams like
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if you could have whatever you're working on and then
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you could just like have a picture in picture effectively
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over your vision of of like a manual or something along those lines that's
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actually what i would pick what i would pick as a collaborative
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like virtual object app where you and i could sit we could be having a
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conversation you have an idea you want to describe the idea to me instead of
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using limited language you just say okay here's a cube and you rotate it and it
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tracks your hand so you can manipulate it aristaka has another commercial
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purpose if you worked at a car dealership and the client comes in and
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asks you a question about like that used car
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like you know who was the previous owner how many kilometers does it have on it
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all of a sudden you could just be like bippity boppity sir i've got all those
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answers for you give me one minute i just have to stare at the car for a
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second hold on hold on yeah okay it's all loaded all right so here's what we got
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for you i mean i can see that again another professional application so i
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see this being a professional device initially
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much like hololens but that's consistent with google's google lens right google's
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ultimate aim was to bring information to you before you query it you don't even
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have to search it comes to you as you need it and that's what lens is if you
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looked at google i o last week they had demos where you're you're basically walking around
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chicago and you look at a historic building and yeah up comes the wikipedia page for
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it and it's an ar so it's got the nice depth to it
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that's that's exactly what you're talking about you look at an object of
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relevance to you and like that yeah but i guess yes i just
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you know i'm not much of a like information about this building buff
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like for me okay you walk by a restaurant yeah that kind of looks okay and then there's the four-star rating
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the reviews okay that would be useful but here's the problem it has to
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actually work like i was in london this week and i'm i'm i'm standing where i'm
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standing i got my little you know blue dot facing whatever direction it thinks
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i'm facing that seems to be just kind of like a
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yeah come on baby you know like i agree with you yeah it's
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not accurate at all um and i searched for food which i would think would bring
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up restaurants or restaurant or whatever i searched for something and it just
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it's just random like like i walked past
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an italian restaurant that looked fine and had a good rating
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when i like manually searched for it
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on my way to the italian restaurant that it brought up in the search result i'm
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just kind of sitting here going italian was right in the name
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and it was on my way like it was closer to me than the thing that you found like
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it just seems arbitrary sometimes and so it's it's frustrating for me to for
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google to come out and say we're going to have this amazing technology your
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phone is going to call your hair stylist and make an appointment for you you're
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going to put on these glasses and they're going to dynamically tell you everything you need to know about
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everything you're looking at when they don't even have the basic
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i wanted pizza okay
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that is get full i did that for you oh thank you i did forgot ice but no i
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almost almost forget it this year there's a
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cage yeah casey was like nine out of ten uh multi-headed
26:39
vr will be there uh 12k ultrawide gaming and we've got more stuff on the way
26:43
there's going to be food music cool systems to look at um
26:49
extra room to stand in more games more swag special guests i
26:53
believe uh jay is planning to be there so that's
26:56
gonna be pretty sweet uh we have some people who are like committed on paper
27:01
but like don't wanna necessarily 100 lock it down
27:05
so they don't want us to like talk about it but there there should be other
27:08
celebrity guests obama is it is obama obama going to be there obama's not
27:12
going to be there um so tickets started 35 canadian you can get them at
27:16
ltxexpo.com Colton i'm done the spot for ltx expo you're not allowed to talk
27:19
about it anymore he doesn't even know that obama's gonna be there ltx obama's
27:24
not gonna be there uh no yeah no he could be no no
27:28
unless it's like some other obama like if you go in the phone book and you look
27:31
up obama like are there other obamas that's possible is that a common name i
27:35
don't think so right yeah i don't think so barack is
27:38
is that a common name no yeah of course during his
27:42
presidency a lot of people say there's a bunch of like seven-year-olds named barack yeah and here
27:48
that would explain why i keep encountering more and more linuses it's
27:52
because like i inspired parents i don't think the
27:56
plural of Linus is linuses i think when you have multiple Linus it's just Linus
28:00
no i think we've no no no it would be like Linus eye or something no oh yeah
28:04
nexus or line eye would be like line eye nexus
28:08
like like like penis is penis
28:11
that's true you have a point there uh evga ditches cds for usb sticks this was
28:18
originally posted on the forum by vegetable stew and the original i love
28:21
that guy's name by the way it's from yeah it's stu ha ha ha ha ha what um
28:26
yeah well yeah okay stew like it that's his name his name is dude dang it a
28:30
non-tech how do i get rid of this thank you uh so this is actually something i asked
28:34
you i asked you as a noob i was like why are they giving discs
28:39
when i don't i and everyone else doesn't
28:42
have yeah drink it doesn't have a dvd
28:46
player anymore and you told me it's because
28:50
it's way more expensive to give away flash drives
28:55
and evga actually confirmed that even though evga is ditching dvds for their
29:00
all the drivers and giving you an eight Gigabyte flash drive instead
29:04
they actually did admit that it's 20 times more expensive to give you a flash
29:08
drive but they're still doing it so 20 times more expensive would be like
29:13
because how much do i think i think a disc costs like on the order of like
29:18
three cents or something like that like i like basically it's probably
29:22
costing them a few bucks though for each one with that said evga has a bit of an
29:27
advantage here compared to other motherboard makers because they don't
29:30
really make any entry-level boards so
29:33
every motherboard that they sell will have enough margin in it that they could
29:38
probably afford to throw in a usb drive and there have been high-end boards
29:42
before that came with usb drives yeah they're not the first to it that's
29:45
freaking awesome though especially because flash like nand flash has gotten to the
29:51
point where it's not any more cost effective to make like a a one gig usb
29:57
drive than it is to do an eight gig usb drive like eight gigs is the size they
30:01
start at so that's what evga is providing and what's cool about that is
30:04
eight gigs is exactly the right size for you to be able to use it for um and it's
30:09
uh install iso a dvd iso oh i thought you're gonna say two blu-rays
30:14
no because it's not enough for that uh bluetooth is like four gigs no dvds four
30:18
gigs blu-rays dvds were like 700 megabytes no that's
30:23
cds cds are 650 or 700 dvds are 4.7 and then
30:29
blu-rays are like 40 and 80 like they go
30:32
up they go up much higher like 20 40 80 or something like that when i used to be
30:36
a scumbag torrented movies they were always about 700 megabytes
30:41
yeah that's because they were 720p seriously downscaled so that scrubs like
30:47
you yeah who were too cheap not only to buy movies but also to pay for more
30:51
internet download definitely yep
30:55
didn't go over their data limits so blu-rays are 25 and 50.
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eight gigs okay yeah um well you can put some word
31:05
documents on it how about that uh wait eight gigs
31:09
no you can put a dvd you can put an iso on it that's what i'm trying to say
31:13
so they say the cost increase will not trickle down to the consumer which is of
31:18
course nonsense
31:23
i think all that means is they're not adjusting the pricing of their current
31:27
generation of boards but that doesn't mean that when they consider the bomb
31:31
costs the bill of materials for their next generation
31:34
that they won't consider that that's another two or
31:38
three dollars this could have been two dollars cheaper this whole time
31:43
um okay this was originally posted over on
31:47
gizmodo um it was posted on the forum by pyrie
31:53
pyrite pi pyriai i think and dozens of employees have quit google
31:59
in protest against a military project what is this project maven okay wait a
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second a dozen not dozens yeah sorry a dozen so
32:08
far so project maven is a project that
32:13
google's working on in collaboration really a project they called it project
32:16
maven and it's a project it's an undertaking
32:20
wow okay you do it do tell me more no no actually you have to do it because i'm
32:24
checking on notes on the youtube premium thing that you didn't put in here
32:28
despite protests from employees why would an employee ever protest
32:34
google is charging ahead with the department of defense collaboration to produce machine learning software
32:39
for american military drones project maven aims to speed up the
32:43
analysis of drone footage by automatically classifying images of
32:46
objects and people and now a dozen people google employees
32:51
are resigning in protests over the company's continued involvement and this
32:54
is in addition to about 4 000 employees who have voice concern and a petition
32:58
that was circulated internally yeah so basically project maven is a way
33:04
of using ai to identify targets in
33:08
for and okay it doesn't say explicitly but the
33:13
the assumption so this is all like allegedly but the assumption is that the
33:17
technology is going to be used to identify targets for drone strikes
33:21
is ultimately what people are mostly upset about uh google has emphasized
33:26
though google claims it is only providing open source software to
33:29
project maven which means the military would be able to still use the
33:33
technology even if google didn't accept payment or offer technical assistant and
33:36
they have emphasized that its ai is not being used to kill the technology is
33:41
used to flag images for human review and
33:44
is intended to save lives and save people from having to do highly tedious
33:48
work and of course i mean you could see the the objections to this their mission
33:53
statement from the beginning was don't be evil yeah but that's nowhere in their
33:57
documentation anymore as far as i know but it's still baked into the company
34:01
ethos and a lot of people who work there make it's
34:05
possible that you worked there for a long time and that was the mission statement when you were hired for a
34:10
large part of your career second part of it is that
34:15
google it's been argued that google has is mandated to protect all of its users and
34:20
they have a global user base so this is
34:24
this project serves the interest of the us
34:27
and the weaponry that's developed from it could be used
34:32
to harm google users who are not in the us right so where does their
34:35
responsibility lie this is great frontal on the uh in
34:39
twitch chat deciding whether or not to kill someone equals highly tedious work
34:46
dang so there are other american companies major tech companies including
34:51
ibm and amazon that have refused to work
34:54
with the u.s defense department um
34:59
but the counter argument to that i don't think you read that correctly
35:02
sorry what's that in addition to the petition circulating inside google the title launched the
35:07
position sorry there was another petition that tried to get other companies like ibm and amazon and to
35:12
work together to refuse to work with the u.s defense department so the counter
35:16
argument to that is like well don't you want
35:20
the united don't you want america to you know
35:23
keep up with you know other countries like you know
35:27
it is it's like do you think that the engineers at baidu are quitting because
35:32
they don't want to do defense contracts with the chinese government
35:36
do you think that's happening the engineers at yandex and russia do you
35:39
want the us to be overpowered by other nations that that
35:43
get this kind of work done from the private sector
35:46
well private sector i mean what do you is baidu private
35:50
sector technically i don't know uh well that's the other thing what
35:54
happens to you if you protest i'm not even going there so
35:59
if it's going to be happening anyway then who do you want to hold this kind of
36:04
technology
36:08
announced that it's hella trying to i could see why you wouldn't want to be
36:11
the one working on it but you should probably understand that when you walk away there's another engineer is going
36:16
to work on it and if that engine and then if that injury's not at google that engine will
36:20
be either from a different company in the us or another
36:23
company in different country baidu apparently not state-owned as of this
36:27
article from 2015 i don't know if it's uh i don't know if that's up to date but
36:31
i was just curious oh that's not what i thought you meant explicitly but all
36:34
right um all right so let's move on then
36:38
to youtube complete dog's breakfast um
36:42
oh sorry excuse me uh youtube premium so the original article here is from the
36:47
verge and basically so how much do you know about youtube red
36:52
very little okay so right now
36:55
um
36:58
okay i'm just trying to i'm trying to remember what youtube music is oh yeah
37:03
you're right crap what is youtube music
37:07
oh google always does this i know it's
37:10
so frustrating okay no no so that one's coming soon okay okay so google so okay
37:15
so on the play store you can like get music
37:20
okay but i think
37:25
ah trying to remember all the different like whatever let's just go with how it
37:29
was up until now so google play music lets you stream music
37:33
and like download music to your device okay it's like i forget it's like ten dollars
37:38
a month or eight dollars a month or fifteen for the family plan but those are crazy so i have the family plan um
37:44
and yeah i pay like 15 canadian or 16 canadian or something like that
37:49
okay so then for a few us dollars more
37:52
than google play music you can get youtube red which strips the ads
37:57
out of youtube videos that is the like the google supplied the adsense supplied
38:02
ads and and gives you access to google play
38:05
music it also gives you additional benefits within the youtube app so the
38:09
ability to play song videos for example with the screen off with the phone in
38:14
your pocket is this how it works now because i thought before it was like if
38:17
you bought google play music you just got youtube red
38:20
and i think it was the other way around and now i know because i i got music and
38:24
i was super stoked on that and then i found out that i wasn't in the that was not in canada
38:28
i was like ah this whole thing has been so messy okay let's just let's just
38:32
let's just do how it's gonna work now okay all right so so youtube red is gone
38:37
apparently they were tired of being called red tube no kidding you idiot
38:41
yeah i know i know right how could they have possibly red tube's been around
38:44
since like 2007 or something like that no something like
38:48
that well look at him covering covering him no because youtube itself came out
38:51
in 2007 so redtube must have been no youtube was 2005. that's fine um okay so
38:57
youtube red is being replaced sort of by
39:01
youtube premium which gives you ad-free music
39:04
the ability to listen in the background you're correct and downloads
39:09
as well as ad-free video the ability to play in the background this is cool
39:14
downloads on youtube videos so you will
39:17
now be able to load up youtube videos on your phone before a flight or whatever
39:22
not have to use one of those ripping tools when i want to rip something off
39:25
um sweet i can finally get them in there
39:29
i mean compensate the artist is that that what you mean anyway um also all
39:33
youtube originals so youtube red
39:37
originals or whatever they were calling those are now just called youtube
39:40
originals and then youtube music premium
39:45
for just two dollars less so this is like a
39:48
pretty terrible deal as far as i can tell just gives you ad-free music so other
39:54
other videos will have ads and the ability to listen in the background and
39:57
download music specifically and then how google play music figures
40:02
into all this i can't remember yes right if you have a google play music
40:06
subscription you get youtube music as part of that membership play music is
40:11
not going away yet but um it'll be hard play music what's that
40:20
in other news youtube premium is finally coming to
40:24
canada so i plan to get it immediately because
40:27
i am so totally editors can rip off i am so
40:30
tired no it's nothing to do with that it's because youtube forces me to break
40:35
their own terms of service every day because what do you mean you are not
40:39
allowed according to google's terms of service to watch your own ads or
40:46
interact with your own ads
40:49
because it inflates your viewership numbers it's like being an amazon
40:53
affiliate and sending getting your friends to buy the thing you're an affiliate for no that's fine no you
40:57
can't do that you can't no
41:00
i can't be like hey guys i here's my affiliate link to buy this t-shirt all
41:05
my friends and family if you're gonna buy this t-shirt use my link you can't do that
41:08
oh oh i see what you mean okay well it's a little i think it's a little bit
41:11
different from that because it's like actually like it's it's it's it amounts
41:15
to it's like it's a holdover from the days of click fraud where written
41:19
websites would have banners up on their sites and then they'd like
41:24
just click on their own ads all day so that they could get a bunch of money but
41:28
but no one ever actually looked at that so any time i watch a video like an
41:32
unskipable video unskippable ad for example might show up and then
41:36
i sit through it i have effectively fraudulently
41:41
given an impression to that video don't they know the
41:44
ip of the uploader but if they know that and no it's a little more complicated
41:48
than that because i could be using a different device but we're talking when
41:51
i'm logged in so i've been asking google for this for
41:55
ages when i'm logged in don't serve an ad on
41:59
my video but they cannot figure this out or
42:04
they just don't care that's the second one is more likely one so finally i
42:09
won't have to break google's terms of service
42:12
just by being a youtuber and that's wonderful
42:16
that makes my heart fuzzy
42:20
um they're like stop we all know you use
42:24
adblocker no i don't
42:28
um all right so what else what else do
42:31
we have today do we have anything interesting oh oh oh yeah okay so for
42:35
anyone who was sort of speculating that maybe ASUS really wanted to do the ares
42:41
brand um
42:44
no they did not they as of now
42:48
now that uh now that uh GeForce partner program is officially dead erez is gone
42:54
rog is back so that's good glad that's all behind
42:58
you that's conclusive yeah
43:01
do you think there's gonna are there any errors
43:05
uh cards out there this could be like a larabee thing if we
43:09
can get our hands on one that'd be cool i don't think so i mean if there's an
43:12
employee out there who has one that'd be really cool to get our hands on that
43:15
um all right according to wccf texas posted
43:19
by black gup on the forum we've got rumors of a gtx his name wasn't 70.
43:23
black gupp no it's a up let's buck up oh oh buck up you need to buck up oh
43:28
sorry i don't know black gup look
43:32
i come from a home covered in black cup
43:36
i come from eight time zones away right now i landed
43:41
back in this country like 24 hours ago
43:45
the people who are still in that time zone feel so according to the leaks the gtx 1170
43:50
will be powered by a 104 class GPU codenamed gt 104 what would t be
43:57
so it's not volta what was it um
44:00
oh i don't remember what the rumored t code name was going to be it'll be
44:04
approximately 400 millimeters square so that's a pretty big chip okay
44:09
2688 cuda cores 256 bit ddr6 memory
44:13
interface 8 to 16 gigs of gddr6 memory well that's
44:17
good that it has an interface that matches the amount of or the the type of
44:20
memory it's rumored to have so the rumor managed to get hopefully at least that
44:24
much right uh clocks of 1.5 to 1.8
44:27
gigahertz depending on boost um
44:31
so this would put it in the same league as the existing gtx 1080 ti so once
44:36
again if you invested
44:41
infested because of crypto haha uh if you invested not invested if you plunked
44:47
down the money for a top tier card a top-tier ti card you are once again
44:53
going to have to wait two generations in order to get any kind of significant
44:57
upgrade from NVIDIA so we've seen this a
45:00
lot of times now where the gtx 680 ti
45:04
was the last time they uh was it the 680 ti
45:09
yeah the wait gtx 16 no they never did a 680
45:12
ti so the gtx 680 was the top tier of that generation
45:17
and then in the next gen there was a 770
45:20
that was exactly the same thing and then
45:24
no 780 maybe it's 700 series that i'm thinking of so 700 series
45:29
yeah then you've got a 980 that didn't then the 980 ti didn't come till later
45:34
that's right so 780 ti was very similar in performance to the gtx 980. so when
45:39
the 900 series rolled around if you had a top-tier card there was basically no
45:43
upgrade for you until the 980 ti came or
45:46
the um yeah the 980 ti came quite some time later then the 980 ti was actually
45:51
quite similar to a 1070 or 1080 so there wasn't much of an upgrade there until
45:56
the 1080 ti came quite a bit later so you actually have to kind of
45:59
wait at least a half generation in order to get an upgrade if you bought the top
46:03
tier card from last time around so
46:06
that combined with the fact that the 10 series launched like when did the 10
46:10
series launch so gtx 10 when did the 1080 ti launch
46:14
let's find out the ti yeah um so that was back in march of
46:19
2017 so it's been a full year you will still have no upgrade path from that
46:28
so the only people who will be upgrading are probably people who bought 1080s
46:34
or before so that was way back in may
46:37
2016. people who bought 1080s and who've been
46:40
waiting for a significant upgrade at that same price tier
46:45
and we don't actually don't even know anything about pricing because while the
46:48
credit no there is one there is one tidbit about the pricing here oh okay
46:52
it's going to cost more than it did last generation 500 bucks sure that's that's
46:56
what is being guest apparently for the 1170 specifically
47:02
all right and that's a super rumor that's just like whispers around the industry
47:07
indicate yeah NVIDIA's been known to mislead
47:10
people like i still remember there was a launch it might have been the 580 or
47:13
something like that where they literally changed the pricing on us the day before
47:18
and like no one knew their own partners by a lot or
47:21
it was like a hundred dollars or something like that was pretty significant up or down um down yeah yeah
47:27
can't complain though right yeah that's old news though NVIDIA like surprising
47:30
the industry with great pricing that's not a thing anymore uh sc2 mitch posted
47:35
this one on the forum this was uh originally posted on inside games.biz
47:40
and i gotta say this shouldn't surprise me but it does
47:45
it shouldn't because it's been on the lan show before well whatever i probably skipped it
47:50
because i was like oh that's boring so the ioc is to host an esports summit in
47:55
whatever however you pronounce that lausanne
47:59
lausanne in july you're supposed to be a french
48:02
speaker oh is it french it's in switzerland
48:06
all right so basically this is just to continue the organization's
48:11
dialogue with the gaming industry it's just a one day meeting
48:15
and in due course
48:18
approach the stakeholders of the olympic movement again
48:24
never gonna happen man esports will never be in the olympics and i argue
48:28
that they don't belong in the olympics
48:31
i'm not gonna disagree with you i'm not even gonna play devil's advocate here because i don't think it makes a ton of
48:35
sense but with that said there is stuff in the olympics that i don't necessarily
48:39
think belongs in the olympics sure
48:42
sure there's i mean here you know what let's bring up
48:46
the full list the speed walking and stuff olympic i mean the stuff's hard
48:50
but the point is that it's athletic the way i look at it is
48:54
in athletics there's something you intend to do
48:59
there's an action you want to carry out you see that action in your mind and
49:02
then because your body has crappy tolerances even though you
49:06
want to throw that ball into that particular spot you just
49:10
can't do it but in a video game for the most part you can you want your units to
49:14
move right there you click there and they move there so i think the fact that
49:18
there's greater tolerances that you don't have much control over on your own body that's what really separates i mean
49:24
you could make the argument that moving the mouse very precisely is a pretty
49:28
a pretty good analog for that sure but that's only a part of the game
49:33
and not the whole game there are actually a lot fewer olympic
49:37
events than i thought actually most of these aren't that stupid that's winter though no no i got both of them okay
49:42
okay hand ball are you gonna put on the screen really handball handball is huge
49:46
in europe man there's a bunch of people yelling at you right now huge
49:50
pretty ba too all right well then fine so so is there
49:56
is there anything here that we really think is pretty dumb
50:00
football the guy's kicking the buzz and make any sense joking
50:05
joking equestrian that's kind of weird
50:09
what is dressage a dressage it's like uh fancy walking on horses
50:16
it's but again this is like the horse
50:20
i guess their skill in training a horse
50:23
and i'm sure there's skill as a rider but
50:27
you're telling me that if your rider gets hurt that day and you still got the
50:30
good horse you're not going to send someone else on top of that good horse and still maybe win
50:34
i don't know anything about this sport okay here's another angle that john
50:39
martin here the writer of Techquickie told me when we discussed this all those
50:43
months ago or maybe it was someone on the forum they basically said an
50:46
interesting angle is the fact that
50:49
video games are commercial products so you're going to go on to the olympics
50:53
and you're going to broadcast something that blizzard owns or something for example so you think
50:58
there's a potential like licensing issue here or just like the ioc
51:03
wanting to be paid ultimately maybe
51:07
someone wanting to get paid or at least it being free advertising right it's
51:11
bizarre and then there's another quote here that says that they're not going to
51:14
do anything they said killer games but the guy has a
51:18
has an accent so but violent games and that's like half the games half the comp
51:24
like the competitive ones especially yeah like what what games are
51:28
competitive that don't involve killing i mean i guess like dota is a lot better
51:33
than call of duty okay yeah okay like cartoony or
51:38
something but that's a fair point like you're not gonna want direct or something you're not gonna watch
51:41
civilization six in the olympics yeah
51:46
i mean all right
51:51
they're games they're not sports i don't want to see them there oh man so
51:56
they're like there's stuff that you could like shooting is shooting a sport
52:00
then was it a game what
52:04
why not like just shooting a target like it's
52:07
super physical or like archery
52:11
where's your argument that it's not well you okay games are in the mind you think
52:14
games are in the mind they're in the mind chess is a quintessential game
52:18
you you compute what you want to happen and the the action of carrying out that
52:22
task yeah is a non-issue you just pick it up and put it there that's not the
52:26
hard part of the game it's the computation that's the hard part of the game in sports it's the carrying out of
52:31
the task that's difficult everybody wants to get the ball across the line it's doing that is hard
52:37
i would argue that i would argue that video games sit in between though i
52:42
agree like i agree it's just a grey area i agree with that but you say it'll
52:46
never happen i think they're way closer to the game end i'm sure twitch chat is
52:49
hitting us up with some games that aren't uh that don't have killing okay
52:53
rocket league i can't rocket league is just soccer
52:58
yeah i can't imagine watching rocket league like in the olympics i
53:04
just i like oh man i just i have a hard time like it's such
53:09
a ridiculous concept i think the like
53:12
these cars running around and like using their butts to hit a giant ball
53:16
into a thing like i just you know what you're hitting on right now is the level
53:20
of abstraction with video games compared to real sports because
53:24
what happens everyone has a common experience when the olympics come on street fighter okay super uh smash
53:29
there's another one that'd be great street fighter and smash okay okay the lights come on you've never watched pole
53:33
vaulting in your life you've never watched the sport in your life but you're sitting there and you just
53:37
instantly get it you can appreciate when someone does a good job you're like that
53:40
was amazing yeah that will never happen with esports someone puts on a starcraft
53:44
2 match you don't know that they have all these battle cruises
53:48
you're just like oh that guy has chips okay like it's too abstracted from a
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visceral feeling that we can all share and experience i agree with you i think
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it's far more likely that they'll just form make their own olympics i agree
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with blackjack they should have that and you know well we all know friends line
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yeah from close friends that you pay to hang out with you employees hey friends i've got
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those i'm out of here all right
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so uh i think that's pretty much it for the lan show today we will see you guys
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again next week same bat time same bat channel
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let's roll that no guarantee on the time don't talk i'm
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can sing on the intro all right fine never gonna turn around
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deserve you
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how weird is that guy's voice though
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yeah this guy was talking to me dude i gotta put this thing here put it that way yeah and that one and
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that one bye