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good because we're live oh that whole time

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no no no just oh just just now i've been saying are are you

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ready for for a while it's not like an impression or anything it's just like uh

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something i didn't get i thought it was like muppets or something no no no no no

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if i was gonna do muppets i'd probably go like four committee frog here maybe

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we're going to do the rancho like this oh that's a great jordan peterson impression jordan peterson i don't even

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know who that is is that a reference that i should get is he famous yeah or she i guess jordan's

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one of those names that can go either way uh all right so we've got a great

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show for you guys today um

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well i mean james is here so it'll be an adequate show for you guys today uh

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we've got new google glasses

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evga is apparently ditching cds next

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week a mop just

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we do actually we didn't even have a mock we had a broom we didn't have a mob we had a broom

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handle with a wig on it almost as good

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uh a dozen employees quit google in protest against a military project and

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what else we got possibly new google glasses

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it's still prototype phase and evga

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not giving new dvds anymore gonna give you usb sticks instead wait how do you

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not have the youtube red thing in here that is like the biggest news of this

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week i go to our forum i look what's on the front page of the

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forum then when i exhaust the forum i go to my other favorite

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ours tech crunch the verge bloomberg

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that must be on there it's not okay well we're gonna talk

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about that too you're gonna wing it and i'm gonna sit back and just take it in

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he's good yeah music

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yeah you're just you're just talking over the music

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it's good it's terrible no it's good no it's terrible people hate it no they

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love it have you ever watched you ever not been on the land show and

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watched it because i lived my life before i worked here doing that

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and i liked it i liked when you guys talked during that

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p.i.a i think you were the only one oh yeah we probably should have had that on

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the screening before we hired people like do you like it or dislike it when

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we talk over the intro music on the WAN Show and that so

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that's disqualifying if you like it so here's the thing

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when we hire we usually do some kind of a skill

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testing quiz and there are answers that if you get

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them wrong your application gets immediately put

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into a bin this guy likes the matrix sequels

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i was younger than you when they came out for one

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and it might only be three years but that makes a difference when you're talking about like a 14 year old no

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they were so bad

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they should have okay they're they're different they're they're different okay

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what were there were there two sequels or three sequels well there are three

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movies so two sequels okay so which hold on a

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second so reloaded and revolutions both came

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out in 2003 and is reloaded the one with the two

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weird twins yes well they're in both movies okay so

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don't take this the wrong way but i didn't even make it

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through the second one let alone watch the third one which i heard was

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much worse the third one is worse okay

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you're throwing the baby out with the bath water because yes

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hear me out okay what's the baby the baby is like one of the best car chases

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in cinema history kick-ass fight scenes like there's parts of the matrix that

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aren't just the like counter culture and cool story

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there's parts of it that are making a good movie like the kung fu and the fight choreography

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choreography or sweet and they're really sweet in that movie yeah so the is the

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photography good too the photography the lithography what about the

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cinematography the cinomatic wow i can't even do that

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one i had to think about it also okay there's a part where he fights a pile of

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cg agent smith that looks like dog junk now

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but that was good when it came out it was

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cutting edge oh cool lordy um so

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okay i'll admit that watching that then

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i didn't get that because okay honestly

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the worst the worst instances of like

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cgi aging badly and it really

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taking you out of the experience are when you see the evolution of

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computer graphics over the course of a series of movies

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yeah okay so i think like lord of the rings did a pretty good job of this

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where even though the movies were released years ago i felt them at the same time did they film all the time

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they would have done the like post-processing later though

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like i know for a fact that scene in return of the king where they're like

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surrounded by the entire army of like orcs and stuff

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i know for a fact that was done like towards the end and that scene probably

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wouldn't have even been possible with the computer hardware that was available

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when fellowship came out like that was a really really demanding

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thing because every single one of those had like some kind of like reactionary

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had a really hard time getting the um the heroes to not like

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try to break out and run away or something like they had to force them to stay

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inside this ring because they because there were like

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self-preservation things anyway apparently it was part of the way that they did like the really large scale uh

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like overviews of the battlefield anyway um

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so one of the series that really suffered from this for me

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is uh oh oh oh oh oh oh people are

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people are spoilers we're talking about the lord of the rin and the matrix 1999

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people um uh people are mad because we're not

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talking about tech okay we are talking about technology and movies

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technically that is tech also like the venn diagram

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is almost completely overlapped with this audience and lord of the rings and

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these movies like how can you anyway anyway okay so uh where was i going

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there's right the harry potter movies because not only were the first two and

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especially the first one done like before the later ones because

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obviously that's how it works um

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except star wars so okay that's the thing uh

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shut up not only that but they were way lower

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budget like you can really tell looking up and you're like oh wow they like

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weren't even really trying with some of this stuff i remember being a child and

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seeing the first one and thinking that it was pretty good me too control came

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on screen but like it's cutting edge for the time that's in the second one but oh

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wait is that no you're right that isn't the first one yeah so so yeah it was no

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no i don't even think that was top of the line at the time but it was like pretty good so they were lower budget

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they were done earlier and i went back and re-watched the entire thing because

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they had like a box at costco with the whole thing and i bought it because i'm

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an idiot um and i was like wow these are kids movies

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and then prisoner of azkaban rolls around you're like oh

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yeah now the best one yeah now they're like real movies all of a sudden

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um so do you think they should do a re-release like they do with star wars

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when they up like remaster it make the graphics better you know what

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because aside from daniel ratcliffe

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emma whatever her name is watson thank you and then

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redhead whatever yeah if anyone knows universal ginge the most famous ginger

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ever yeah what does he like drive a bus now or something what yeah i heard you

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like got out of show business and you just wanted to like drive a bus that'd

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be sweet yeah daniel day lewis moved to italy for like five years just make shoes at one point yeah anyway um

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because aside from their acting getting markedly better also

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like you could probably you could you could re-cgi and i think you could

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actually make it a significantly more immersive movie she had george lucas on it he should be

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on the team just oversee it you know he's got experience in this he

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does a good job he does a hell of a job but he undertakes those projects anyway

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back to agent smith um i will agree with you that at the time that didn't pull me

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out of the movie like i felt like that's pretty cool wow it really looks like

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he's fighting a bunch of agent smiths that was still a terrible movie well

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that's the thing is a lot of people with the immersion not being broken for me a lot of people just hate the fact that he

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fought a bunch of agents oh i was actually okay with that because i was also a kid okay yeah

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no it was i don't that's like far from the worst part of that movie it was just

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what is the worst part is that when he has powers outside of the matrix at the

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end spoiler uh because that's i think like the biggest

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division between the first one and the sequels you know what i'm gonna be honest with

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you i don't remember it well enough i just remember it being freaky you're

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just bandwagoning all the people who hate it you should watch it again

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the cards okay look i watched the first one again

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like a couple years ago that last weekend and it's so bad oh it's awesome

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no it's not moving on no it is so bad

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like there's no way i would like the second one if the first one has aged

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that poorly it's so cheesy the leather like the leather is not cool anymore no

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oh no it's not and the worst part is that like i've seen keanu keanu keanu

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actually act reasonably well i'm sure of it can't recall it right now can you say

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woe as good as he says woe in that movie

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i feel like i have to try

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i just i just jumped i just jumped from the building we're standing on to

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another skyscraper across the way whoa

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it wasn't bad that wasn't bad what a dick i know what you remind me of

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this pickle ad that i'm looking at you know what that's you an angry green dick

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right there that's you which one left or right uh

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you know what you're the shorter one huh there

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a little bit a little girthier though take that

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all right all right why don't we do an actual tech topic at some point here so

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uh the verge has an article here on a

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reported google glass it'll be an ar headset and

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oh wow i was going to say it looks just as bad no no that's not that's the

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original i wait no that's i hesitate to even call it a new google

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glass because i suspect that they're going to change it all together

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that probably wouldn't be a terrible thing because it is impossible not to

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look like a complete jackass wearing that thing

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yeah so my theories about why the first one failed have to do exactly with

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the things that they they thought were highlights they thought it was so good

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that the camera was up and out of your eye so you had to

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look up at it to see it you mean the screen the camera around the screen but i mean

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the screen you're right um but that makes it so useless because

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what you want is like a mixed reality you want all the digital stuff to be

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right there superimposed that's what they're doing with this one it's more

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like hololens okay but it's untethered

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self-contained it'll have cameras and microphones and it'll use the same new

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qualcomm chips as the upcoming hololens so it's a qsc603 four core chip based on

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an ARM architecture it'll be built by taiwanese computer maker quanta and is

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apparently still in the prototyping stage so is that all we know about it

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right now i think so i think that's that's basically i would say it's

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probably on the same bit of production cycle as the the rumored apple what's it

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called project titan their glasses hmm

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whose do you think will be better

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because google will have a much better ai i mean siri i swear siri has actually

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gotten dumber over the last few years

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i would think that apples would maybe be a better hardware product and their ar

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their ar kit ar stuff is quite good but

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it will certainly be tethered with the iphone because apple now makes products

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to squeeze more money out of iphone users whereas this being purportedly

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untethered like i'm reading that as completely

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standalone device you don't even need to have a phone if that's true

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then it has the assistant on it to be useful right

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and that's a whole different game that's apples and oranges at that point

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man i don't even like i don't i'm just trying to here okay here's my issue with

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augmented reality is like

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you know what i actually this is unusual but i want to hear from twitch chat

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i want you guys to start throwing some some some messages in the twitch chat

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let me know what

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and you can't you can't hedge you can't hedge okay you gotta pick one

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what is one thing that you want

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ar glasses to do that would make you buy

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and i'm gonna throw a price point at you let's say they're not cheap i'm gonna

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say 500 us dollars oh i thought you're gonna say a thousand no 500 i think 500

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is reasonable so 500 us dollars and you

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pull the trigger immediately what's the feature

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go so are you ready with one because i've got one if you're right you go you let

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me go first okay so for me

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one of the things that i have like i i can't think of anything personally that

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would inspire me to spend that kind of money because my entire life pretty much

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revolves around my phone screen or my computer screen

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and i've i don't find myself having a desire to overlay information on top of

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a screen with a screen like that's not really a thing i get up in the morning i

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like check the news on my phone i ate my breakfast i take my kids to school i

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drive so i'm driving then i get to work i sit down in front of my computer or

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i'm shooting in which case i'll have my phone with me if i need to like send out

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a quick tweet or whatever something you won't be able to do with glasses anyway

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then i drive home then i spend time with my kids then i am on a screen or or not

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on a screen ideally that that's it so i'm never that far away if i like really

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need to you know look something up and i've smartwatched too of course

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for me the justification would be

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business okay so when i'm traveling if i had the

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ability to be at like a um

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some kind of a cocktail mixer or something or if i walked into a business

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meeting um or like the suite at computex

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for ASUS and this thing starts recognizing people

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that are on my social networks so then all i have to do is like add people to

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facebook or linkedin yes there's an app that does something like that yeah okay

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but here's the thing it needs to do it well so it needs to be able to go okay here's

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their name here's uh a couple things about them

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here's the last email that you exchanged with them if applicable like it needs to

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be able to aggregate all of this data and help me avoid embarrassing

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situations where like i'm like yeah it was really nice to meet you and

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they're like we've had three meetings over the last

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you know eight years i'm just like well that's enough meetings that i should

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feel really bad but in my defense

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when i go to these types of shows i usually meet anywhere from 200 to 500

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people in a span of a week and i'm sorry but unless you you have like bright

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orange hair on one side and bright purple hair on the other side i'm

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probably not going to remember you that's how max got hired by the way she

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was the most memorable applicant no i'm just kidding i actually wasn't involved in the

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problem what you're describing sounds to me like what the facebook app for that

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form factor would be yeah and it's consistent with google's

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ultimate vision which is not only like here can i jump in because

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these are these are going away too quickly can i jump in with some other

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people's things uh sorry hold hold that so oh man

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some people are asking for unreasonable things like complete replacement of your

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smartphone and smartwatch input there's no the input isn't there i don't think

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that makes any sense okay google maps with ar

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yeah i can see that having a value that would be sweet the navigation is just

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right over top of the road yeah all right but really 500 bucks

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you'd buy it for that like how often do you really navigate somewhere exactly if

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i was an uber driver maybe yeah so again that's a professional use though

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um google search info

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okay wow holy crap this is respecting

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women way too fast if this device respected women i'd buy it like that

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dash cam feature like shadow play being able to go back

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and record any moment in your life just recording everything there's an episode

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of dark mirror like that or black mirror you don't want that

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yeah i could see it being useful but it's also a big problem when does that

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oh wow relationship status

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i could see a lot of people buying it for that that would be sweet like if

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basically like the the tinder app for that form factor you walk around it's

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just like yep that's a tinder user oh wow that okay

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imagine like real world tinder people walking around with these headsets just

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like oh wow and you could swipe with your head so you just look at people and be

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like no no

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nope like you're walking up to someone you like you see them there's a thing

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over your head you both know the others on tinder they're looking at you going like this you're like nah like you make

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eye contact across the room and you're both just like

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yeah um a lot of people are saying what a desk though nope a lot of people are

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saying porn but like why like why do you who would want to be

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walking around with like a raging erection

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because they're like watching porn while they're on the bus like what is the

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point of that like i know i know okay so here's the thing it's like i

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think most people are probably just saying that to be funny

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but i'm sure at least a handful of you

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i'm sure at least a handful of you will legitimately would watch porn on a plane

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or on a bus or whatever if you could

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and to those people i would say really like

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really like i i think i think

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you know what i think i'm not going to get into imagine all the extensions you could get all the hilarious filters you

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could get where like someone's talking to you and you just see objects around

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their head like okay wang's coming at you wangs around Linus

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viewing schematics and diagrams like large scale schematics and diagrams like

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if you could have whatever you're working on and then

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you could just like have a picture in picture effectively

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over your vision of of like a manual or something along those lines that's

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actually what i would pick what i would pick as a collaborative

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like virtual object app where you and i could sit we could be having a

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conversation you have an idea you want to describe the idea to me instead of

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using limited language you just say okay here's a cube and you rotate it and it

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tracks your hand so you can manipulate it aristaka has another commercial

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purpose if you worked at a car dealership and the client comes in and

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asks you a question about like that used car

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like you know who was the previous owner how many kilometers does it have on it

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all of a sudden you could just be like bippity boppity sir i've got all those

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answers for you give me one minute i just have to stare at the car for a

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second hold on hold on yeah okay it's all loaded all right so here's what we got

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for you i mean i can see that again another professional application so i

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see this being a professional device initially

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much like hololens but that's consistent with google's google lens right google's

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ultimate aim was to bring information to you before you query it you don't even

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have to search it comes to you as you need it and that's what lens is if you

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looked at google i o last week they had demos where you're you're basically walking around

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chicago and you look at a historic building and yeah up comes the wikipedia page for

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it and it's an ar so it's got the nice depth to it

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that's that's exactly what you're talking about you look at an object of

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relevance to you and like that yeah but i guess yes i just

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you know i'm not much of a like information about this building buff

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like for me okay you walk by a restaurant yeah that kind of looks okay and then there's the four-star rating

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the reviews okay that would be useful but here's the problem it has to

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actually work like i was in london this week and i'm i'm i'm standing where i'm

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standing i got my little you know blue dot facing whatever direction it thinks

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i'm facing that seems to be just kind of like a

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yeah come on baby you know like i agree with you yeah it's

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not accurate at all um and i searched for food which i would think would bring

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up restaurants or restaurant or whatever i searched for something and it just

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it's just random like like i walked past

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an italian restaurant that looked fine and had a good rating

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when i like manually searched for it

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on my way to the italian restaurant that it brought up in the search result i'm

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just kind of sitting here going italian was right in the name

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and it was on my way like it was closer to me than the thing that you found like

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it just seems arbitrary sometimes and so it's it's frustrating for me to for

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google to come out and say we're going to have this amazing technology your

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phone is going to call your hair stylist and make an appointment for you you're

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going to put on these glasses and they're going to dynamically tell you everything you need to know about

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everything you're looking at when they don't even have the basic

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stuff working right now italian

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freaking restaurant oh there's a problem right there handle that

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i wanted pizza okay

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i actually didn't want pizza wanted anything that my wife would also

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eat that's what i wanted

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that is get full i did that for you oh thank you i did forgot ice but no i

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intentionally didn't put icing because when you have ice in your water bottle you drink it weird

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you contort your mouth so that the ice doesn't come out i just don't like the way your face looks when you do it i

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don't like warm water though it's not warm

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you know what just just for you i'm gonna drink my water like that all the

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give you permission to charge his credit card right like that's if he works for

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me then the money ultimately i'm your slave yeah so um

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believe uh jay is planning to be there so that's

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gonna be pretty sweet uh we have some people who are like committed on paper

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but like don't wanna necessarily 100 lock it down

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so they don't want us to like talk about it but there there should be other

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celebrity guests obama is it is obama obama going to be there obama's not

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going to be there um so tickets started 35 canadian you can get them at

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about it anymore he doesn't even know that obama's gonna be there ltx obama's

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not gonna be there uh no yeah no he could be no no

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unless it's like some other obama like if you go in the phone book and you look

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up obama like are there other obamas that's possible is that a common name i

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don't think so right yeah i don't think so barack is

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is that a common name no yeah of course during his

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presidency a lot of people say there's a bunch of like seven-year-olds named barack yeah and here

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that would explain why i keep encountering more and more linuses it's

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because like i inspired parents i don't think the

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plural of Linus is linuses i think when you have multiple Linus it's just Linus

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no i think we've no no no it would be like Linus eye or something no oh yeah

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nexus or line eye would be like line eye nexus

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like like like penis is penis

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that's true you have a point there uh evga ditches cds for usb sticks this was

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originally posted on the forum by vegetable stew and the original i love

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that guy's name by the way it's from yeah it's stu ha ha ha ha ha what um

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yeah well yeah okay stew like it that's his name his name is dude dang it a

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non-tech how do i get rid of this thank you uh so this is actually something i asked

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you i asked you as a noob i was like why are they giving discs

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when i don't i and everyone else doesn't

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have yeah drink it doesn't have a dvd

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player anymore and you told me it's because

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it's way more expensive to give away flash drives

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and evga actually confirmed that even though evga is ditching dvds for their

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all the drivers and giving you an eight Gigabyte flash drive instead

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they actually did admit that it's 20 times more expensive to give you a flash

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drive but they're still doing it so 20 times more expensive would be like

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because how much do i think i think a disc costs like on the order of like

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three cents or something like that like i like basically it's probably

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costing them a few bucks though for each one with that said evga has a bit of an

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advantage here compared to other motherboard makers because they don't

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really make any entry-level boards so

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every motherboard that they sell will have enough margin in it that they could

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probably afford to throw in a usb drive and there have been high-end boards

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before that came with usb drives yeah they're not the first to it that's

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freaking awesome though especially because flash like nand flash has gotten to the

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point where it's not any more cost effective to make like a a one gig usb

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drive than it is to do an eight gig usb drive like eight gigs is the size they

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start at so that's what evga is providing and what's cool about that is

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eight gigs is exactly the right size for you to be able to use it for um and it's

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uh install iso a dvd iso oh i thought you're gonna say two blu-rays

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no because it's not enough for that uh bluetooth is like four gigs no dvds four

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gigs blu-rays dvds were like 700 megabytes no that's

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cds cds are 650 or 700 dvds are 4.7 and then

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blu-rays are like 40 and 80 like they go

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up they go up much higher like 20 40 80 or something like that when i used to be

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a scumbag torrented movies they were always about 700 megabytes

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yeah that's because they were 720p seriously downscaled so that scrubs like

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you yeah who were too cheap not only to buy movies but also to pay for more

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internet download definitely yep

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didn't go over their data limits so blu-rays are 25 and 50.

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eight gigs okay yeah um well you can put some word

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documents on it how about that uh wait eight gigs

446
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no you can put a dvd you can put an iso on it that's what i'm trying to say

447
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:20,880
so they say the cost increase will not trickle down to the consumer which is of

448
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,880
course nonsense

449
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,200
i think all that means is they're not adjusting the pricing of their current

450
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:33,360
generation of boards but that doesn't mean that when they consider the bomb

451
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,480
costs the bill of materials for their next generation

452
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,279
that they won't consider that that's another two or

453
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:44,559
three dollars this could have been two dollars cheaper this whole time

454
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:50,240
um okay this was originally posted over on

455
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:55,679
gizmodo um it was posted on the forum by pyrie

456
00:31:53,120 --> 00:32:01,840
pyrite pi pyriai i think and dozens of employees have quit google

457
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,200
in protest against a military project what is this project maven okay wait a

458
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,399
second a dozen not dozens yeah sorry a dozen so

459
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:14,640
far so project maven is a project that

460
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:19,039
google's working on in collaboration really a project they called it project

461
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:23,360
maven and it's a project it's an undertaking

462
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,799
wow okay you do it do tell me more no no actually you have to do it because i'm

463
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:31,600
checking on notes on the youtube premium thing that you didn't put in here

464
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:35,360
despite protests from employees why would an employee ever protest

465
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:41,600
google is charging ahead with the department of defense collaboration to produce machine learning software

466
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,960
for american military drones project maven aims to speed up the

467
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:48,640
analysis of drone footage by automatically classifying images of

468
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,120
objects and people and now a dozen people google employees

469
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:57,039
are resigning in protests over the company's continued involvement and this

470
00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:01,200
is in addition to about 4 000 employees who have voice concern and a petition

471
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:08,840
that was circulated internally yeah so basically project maven is a way

472
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:10,640
of using ai to identify targets in

473
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,440
for and okay it doesn't say explicitly but the

474
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:19,120
the assumption so this is all like allegedly but the assumption is that the

475
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,840
technology is going to be used to identify targets for drone strikes

476
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:28,080
is ultimately what people are mostly upset about uh google has emphasized

477
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:32,080
though google claims it is only providing open source software to

478
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:35,200
project maven which means the military would be able to still use the

479
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,880
technology even if google didn't accept payment or offer technical assistant and

480
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:44,480
they have emphasized that its ai is not being used to kill the technology is

481
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,880
used to flag images for human review and

482
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,159
is intended to save lives and save people from having to do highly tedious

483
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,799
work and of course i mean you could see the the objections to this their mission

484
00:33:53,679 --> 00:34:00,399
statement from the beginning was don't be evil yeah but that's nowhere in their

485
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:04,399
documentation anymore as far as i know but it's still baked into the company

486
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,039
ethos and a lot of people who work there make it's

487
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:12,960
possible that you worked there for a long time and that was the mission statement when you were hired for a

488
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,079
large part of your career second part of it is that

489
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:23,599
google it's been argued that google has is mandated to protect all of its users and

490
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:26,320
they have a global user base so this is

491
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,040
this project serves the interest of the us

492
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:33,679
and the weaponry that's developed from it could be used

493
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,679
to harm google users who are not in the us right so where does their

494
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,679
responsibility lie this is great frontal on the uh in

495
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:45,839
twitch chat deciding whether or not to kill someone equals highly tedious work

496
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:54,240
dang so there are other american companies major tech companies including

497
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:56,639
ibm and amazon that have refused to work

498
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:58,960
with the u.s defense department um

499
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,240
but the counter argument to that i don't think you read that correctly

500
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,119
sorry what's that in addition to the petition circulating inside google the title launched the

501
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,800
position sorry there was another petition that tried to get other companies like ibm and amazon and to

502
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,560
work together to refuse to work with the u.s defense department so the counter

503
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,480
argument to that is like well don't you want

504
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:25,119
the united don't you want america to you know

505
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,240
keep up with you know other countries like you know

506
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:34,000
it is it's like do you think that the engineers at baidu are quitting because

507
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:37,359
they don't want to do defense contracts with the chinese government

508
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:41,280
do you think that's happening the engineers at yandex and russia do you

509
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,800
want the us to be overpowered by other nations that that

510
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:48,400
get this kind of work done from the private sector

511
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,640
well private sector i mean what do you is baidu private

512
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,400
sector technically i don't know uh well that's the other thing what

513
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,960
happens to you if you protest i'm not even going there so

514
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:06,800
if it's going to be happening anyway then who do you want to hold this kind of

515
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,800
technology

516
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,119
announced that it's hella trying to i could see why you wouldn't want to be

517
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:17,599
the one working on it but you should probably understand that when you walk away there's another engineer is going

518
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,280
to work on it and if that engine and then if that injury's not at google that engine will

519
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,440
be either from a different company in the us or another

520
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:29,520
company in different country baidu apparently not state-owned as of this

521
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,960
article from 2015 i don't know if it's uh i don't know if that's up to date but

522
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:38,240
i was just curious oh that's not what i thought you meant explicitly but all

523
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:42,800
right um all right so let's move on then

524
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:45,760
to youtube complete dog's breakfast um

525
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:50,079
oh sorry excuse me uh youtube premium so the original article here is from the

526
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:53,760
verge and basically so how much do you know about youtube red

527
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:57,839
very little okay so right now

528
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,839
um

529
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:07,119
okay i'm just trying to i'm trying to remember what youtube music is oh yeah

530
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:10,240
you're right crap what is youtube music

531
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:12,000
oh google always does this i know it's

532
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:18,560
so frustrating okay no no so that one's coming soon okay okay so google so okay

533
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,880
so on the play store you can like get music

534
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,160
okay but i think

535
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,920
ah trying to remember all the different like whatever let's just go with how it

536
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,720
was up until now so google play music lets you stream music

537
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:40,320
and like download music to your device okay it's like i forget it's like ten dollars

538
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:47,280
a month or eight dollars a month or fifteen for the family plan but those are crazy so i have the family plan um

539
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:52,560
and yeah i pay like 15 canadian or 16 canadian or something like that

540
00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:54,400
okay so then for a few us dollars more

541
00:37:52,560 --> 00:38:00,320
than google play music you can get youtube red which strips the ads

542
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:03,200
out of youtube videos that is the like the google supplied the adsense supplied

543
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:07,760
ads and and gives you access to google play

544
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:12,640
music it also gives you additional benefits within the youtube app so the

545
00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:15,520
ability to play song videos for example with the screen off with the phone in

546
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:18,800
your pocket is this how it works now because i thought before it was like if

547
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:22,160
you bought google play music you just got youtube red

548
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,520
and i think it was the other way around and now i know because i i got music and

549
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,480
i was super stoked on that and then i found out that i wasn't in the that was not in canada

550
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,320
i was like ah this whole thing has been so messy okay let's just let's just

551
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,720
let's just do how it's gonna work now okay all right so so youtube red is gone

552
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:43,359
apparently they were tired of being called red tube no kidding you idiot

553
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,640
yeah i know i know right how could they have possibly red tube's been around

554
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,160
since like 2007 or something like that no something like

555
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,520
that well look at him covering covering him no because youtube itself came out

556
00:38:51,599 --> 00:39:01,040
in 2007 so redtube must have been no youtube was 2005. that's fine um okay so

557
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,920
youtube red is being replaced sort of by

558
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,720
youtube premium which gives you ad-free music

559
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:11,839
the ability to listen in the background you're correct and downloads

560
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:17,599
as well as ad-free video the ability to play in the background this is cool

561
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,839
downloads on youtube videos so you will

562
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:23,839
now be able to load up youtube videos on your phone before a flight or whatever

563
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,800
not have to use one of those ripping tools when i want to rip something off

564
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,040
um sweet i can finally get them in there

565
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:37,040
i mean compensate the artist is that that what you mean anyway um also all

566
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,560
youtube originals so youtube red

567
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,520
originals or whatever they were calling those are now just called youtube

568
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:47,520
originals and then youtube music premium

569
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,480
for just two dollars less so this is like a

570
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:56,400
pretty terrible deal as far as i can tell just gives you ad-free music so other

571
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,880
other videos will have ads and the ability to listen in the background and

572
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:05,599
download music specifically and then how google play music figures

573
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:09,119
into all this i can't remember yes right if you have a google play music

574
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:13,760
subscription you get youtube music as part of that membership play music is

575
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:18,560
not going away yet but um it'll be hard play music what's that

576
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,200
in other news youtube premium is finally coming to

577
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:29,920
canada so i plan to get it immediately because

578
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:32,960
i am so totally editors can rip off i am so

579
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:38,320
tired no it's nothing to do with that it's because youtube forces me to break

580
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:42,640
their own terms of service every day because what do you mean you are not

581
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:49,680
allowed according to google's terms of service to watch your own ads or

582
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,760
interact with your own ads

583
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,720
because it inflates your viewership numbers it's like being an amazon

584
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:59,200
affiliate and sending getting your friends to buy the thing you're an affiliate for no that's fine no you

585
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,599
can't do that you can't no

586
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,480
i can't be like hey guys i here's my affiliate link to buy this t-shirt all

587
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:10,560
my friends and family if you're gonna buy this t-shirt use my link you can't do that

588
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,280
oh oh i see what you mean okay well it's a little i think it's a little bit

589
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,359
different from that because it's like actually like it's it's it's it amounts

590
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,760
to it's like it's a holdover from the days of click fraud where written

591
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:26,400
websites would have banners up on their sites and then they'd like

592
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,240
just click on their own ads all day so that they could get a bunch of money but

593
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,640
but no one ever actually looked at that so any time i watch a video like an

594
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,599
unskipable video unskippable ad for example might show up and then

595
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:43,280
i sit through it i have effectively fraudulently

596
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:46,880
given an impression to that video don't they know the

597
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,760
ip of the uploader but if they know that and no it's a little more complicated

598
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:53,280
than that because i could be using a different device but we're talking when

599
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,240
i'm logged in so i've been asking google for this for

600
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,839
ages when i'm logged in don't serve an ad on

601
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:06,800
my video but they cannot figure this out or

602
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:11,920
they just don't care that's the second one is more likely one so finally i

603
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,000
won't have to break google's terms of service

604
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:19,520
just by being a youtuber and that's wonderful

605
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,520
that makes my heart fuzzy

606
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:27,760
um they're like stop we all know you use

607
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,760
adblocker no i don't

608
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:32,560
um all right so what else what else do

609
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:38,240
we have today do we have anything interesting oh oh oh yeah okay so for

610
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:42,800
anyone who was sort of speculating that maybe ASUS really wanted to do the ares

611
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:48,640
brand um

612
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:51,520
no they did not they as of now

613
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:56,400
now that uh now that uh GeForce partner program is officially dead erez is gone

614
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,240
rog is back so that's good glad that's all behind

615
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:03,200
you that's conclusive yeah

616
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:07,599
do you think there's gonna are there any errors

617
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,480
uh cards out there this could be like a larabee thing if we

618
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,599
can get our hands on one that'd be cool i don't think so i mean if there's an

619
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:17,040
employee out there who has one that'd be really cool to get our hands on that

620
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,119
um all right according to wccf texas posted

621
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,920
by black gup on the forum we've got rumors of a gtx his name wasn't 70.

622
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:30,240
black gupp no it's a up let's buck up oh oh buck up you need to buck up oh

623
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:36,400
sorry i don't know black gup look

624
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,839
i come from a home covered in black cup

625
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:43,280
i come from eight time zones away right now i landed

626
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:46,480
back in this country like 24 hours ago

627
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:53,680
the people who are still in that time zone feel so according to the leaks the gtx 1170

628
00:43:50,720 --> 00:44:00,880
will be powered by a 104 class GPU codenamed gt 104 what would t be

629
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,440
so it's not volta what was it um

630
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,040
oh i don't remember what the rumored t code name was going to be it'll be

631
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:13,040
approximately 400 millimeters square so that's a pretty big chip okay

632
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,319
2688 cuda cores 256 bit ddr6 memory

633
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,720
interface 8 to 16 gigs of gddr6 memory well that's

634
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:22,720
good that it has an interface that matches the amount of or the the type of

635
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:27,440
memory it's rumored to have so the rumor managed to get hopefully at least that

636
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:29,440
much right uh clocks of 1.5 to 1.8

637
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,880
gigahertz depending on boost um

638
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:37,680
so this would put it in the same league as the existing gtx 1080 ti so once

639
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:41,760
again if you invested

640
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:49,599
infested because of crypto haha uh if you invested not invested if you plunked

641
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:55,200
down the money for a top tier card a top-tier ti card you are once again

642
00:44:53,040 --> 00:45:00,400
going to have to wait two generations in order to get any kind of significant

643
00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:04,079
upgrade from NVIDIA so we've seen this a

644
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,839
lot of times now where the gtx 680 ti

645
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:09,440
was the last time they uh was it the 680 ti

646
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:15,839
yeah the wait gtx 16 no they never did a 680

647
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:20,880
ti so the gtx 680 was the top tier of that generation

648
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:24,160
and then in the next gen there was a 770

649
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,720
that was exactly the same thing and then

650
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:32,480
no 780 maybe it's 700 series that i'm thinking of so 700 series

651
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:36,640
yeah then you've got a 980 that didn't then the 980 ti didn't come till later

652
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:41,200
that's right so 780 ti was very similar in performance to the gtx 980. so when

653
00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:46,960
the 900 series rolled around if you had a top-tier card there was basically no

654
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:49,599
upgrade for you until the 980 ti came or

655
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:54,800
the um yeah the 980 ti came quite some time later then the 980 ti was actually

656
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:58,240
quite similar to a 1070 or 1080 so there wasn't much of an upgrade there until

657
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,839
the 1080 ti came quite a bit later so you actually have to kind of

658
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:06,560
wait at least a half generation in order to get an upgrade if you bought the top

659
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,560
tier card from last time around so

660
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,760
that combined with the fact that the 10 series launched like when did the 10

661
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:16,480
series launch so gtx 10 when did the 1080 ti launch

662
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:22,480
let's find out the ti yeah um so that was back in march of

663
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:30,480
2017 so it's been a full year you will still have no upgrade path from that

664
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:37,440
so the only people who will be upgrading are probably people who bought 1080s

665
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,280
or before so that was way back in may

666
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,960
2016. people who bought 1080s and who've been

667
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,480
waiting for a significant upgrade at that same price tier

668
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,560
and we don't actually don't even know anything about pricing because while the

669
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:54,079
credit no there is one there is one tidbit about the pricing here oh okay

670
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:59,040
it's going to cost more than it did last generation 500 bucks sure that's that's

671
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:03,119
what is being guest apparently for the 1170 specifically

672
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:08,480
all right and that's a super rumor that's just like whispers around the industry

673
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,079
indicate yeah NVIDIA's been known to mislead

674
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,359
people like i still remember there was a launch it might have been the 580 or

675
00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:20,240
something like that where they literally changed the pricing on us the day before

676
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,720
and like no one knew their own partners by a lot or

677
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:28,800
it was like a hundred dollars or something like that was pretty significant up or down um down yeah yeah

678
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,720
can't complain though right yeah that's old news though NVIDIA like surprising

679
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:37,200
the industry with great pricing that's not a thing anymore uh sc2 mitch posted

680
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:42,640
this one on the forum this was uh originally posted on inside games.biz

681
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,480
and i gotta say this shouldn't surprise me but it does

682
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:52,000
it shouldn't because it's been on the lan show before well whatever i probably skipped it

683
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:57,920
because i was like oh that's boring so the ioc is to host an esports summit in

684
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,480
whatever however you pronounce that lausanne

685
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:03,760
lausanne in july you're supposed to be a french

686
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:08,960
speaker oh is it french it's in switzerland

687
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:13,200
all right so basically this is just to continue the organization's

688
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:17,200
dialogue with the gaming industry it's just a one day meeting

689
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:21,520
and in due course

690
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:26,079
approach the stakeholders of the olympic movement again

691
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:31,200
never gonna happen man esports will never be in the olympics and i argue

692
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,400
that they don't belong in the olympics

693
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,599
i'm not gonna disagree with you i'm not even gonna play devil's advocate here because i don't think it makes a ton of

694
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:42,480
sense but with that said there is stuff in the olympics that i don't necessarily

695
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,839
think belongs in the olympics sure

696
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,599
sure there's i mean here you know what let's bring up

697
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:52,480
the full list the speed walking and stuff olympic i mean the stuff's hard

698
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,520
but the point is that it's athletic the way i look at it is

699
00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:00,880
in athletics there's something you intend to do

700
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,480
there's an action you want to carry out you see that action in your mind and

701
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:08,000
then because your body has crappy tolerances even though you

702
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,400
want to throw that ball into that particular spot you just

703
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,319
can't do it but in a video game for the most part you can you want your units to

704
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:20,319
move right there you click there and they move there so i think the fact that

705
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:25,760
there's greater tolerances that you don't have much control over on your own body that's what really separates i mean

706
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:31,440
you could make the argument that moving the mouse very precisely is a pretty

707
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:35,359
a pretty good analog for that sure but that's only a part of the game

708
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:39,040
and not the whole game there are actually a lot fewer olympic

709
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:43,920
events than i thought actually most of these aren't that stupid that's winter though no no i got both of them okay

710
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,680
okay hand ball are you gonna put on the screen really handball handball is huge

711
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:53,200
in europe man there's a bunch of people yelling at you right now huge

712
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:58,160
pretty ba too all right well then fine so so is there

713
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,000
is there anything here that we really think is pretty dumb

714
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:07,520
football the guy's kicking the buzz and make any sense joking

715
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:12,480
joking equestrian that's kind of weird

716
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:18,319
what is dressage a dressage it's like uh fancy walking on horses

717
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:23,760
it's but again this is like the horse

718
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,760
i guess their skill in training a horse

719
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:28,480
and i'm sure there's skill as a rider but

720
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:31,359
you're telling me that if your rider gets hurt that day and you still got the

721
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:36,720
good horse you're not going to send someone else on top of that good horse and still maybe win

722
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:41,839
i don't know anything about this sport okay here's another angle that john

723
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:45,119
martin here the writer of Techquickie told me when we discussed this all those

724
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:49,920
months ago or maybe it was someone on the forum they basically said an

725
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:52,160
interesting angle is the fact that

726
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,960
video games are commercial products so you're going to go on to the olympics

727
00:50:53,599 --> 00:51:00,000
and you're going to broadcast something that blizzard owns or something for example so you think

728
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:06,480
there's a potential like licensing issue here or just like the ioc

729
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,359
wanting to be paid ultimately maybe

730
00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:13,119
someone wanting to get paid or at least it being free advertising right it's

731
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,960
bizarre and then there's another quote here that says that they're not going to

732
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:21,520
do anything they said killer games but the guy has a

733
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:26,480
has an accent so but violent games and that's like half the games half the comp

734
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:31,200
like the competitive ones especially yeah like what what games are

735
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:36,000
competitive that don't involve killing i mean i guess like dota is a lot better

736
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,920
than call of duty okay yeah okay like cartoony or

737
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:44,559
something but that's a fair point like you're not gonna want direct or something you're not gonna watch

738
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:48,960
civilization six in the olympics yeah

739
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:54,160
i mean all right

740
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:58,160
they're games they're not sports i don't want to see them there oh man so

741
00:51:56,559 --> 00:52:02,720
they're like there's stuff that you could like shooting is shooting a sport

742
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:05,920
then was it a game what

743
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,119
why not like just shooting a target like it's

744
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,880
super physical or like archery

745
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:16,000
where's your argument that it's not well you okay games are in the mind you think

746
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,040
games are in the mind they're in the mind chess is a quintessential game

747
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,880
you you compute what you want to happen and the the action of carrying out that

748
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,680
task yeah is a non-issue you just pick it up and put it there that's not the

749
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:32,559
hard part of the game it's the computation that's the hard part of the game in sports it's the carrying out of

750
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:37,440
the task that's difficult everybody wants to get the ball across the line it's doing that is hard

751
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:44,640
i would argue that i would argue that video games sit in between though i

752
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:47,599
agree like i agree it's just a grey area i agree with that but you say it'll

753
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:51,680
never happen i think they're way closer to the game end i'm sure twitch chat is

754
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,280
hitting us up with some games that aren't uh that don't have killing okay

755
00:52:53,440 --> 00:53:01,440
rocket league i can't rocket league is just soccer

756
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:06,640
yeah i can't imagine watching rocket league like in the olympics i

757
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:12,640
just i like oh man i just i have a hard time like it's such

758
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:14,880
a ridiculous concept i think the like

759
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,400
these cars running around and like using their butts to hit a giant ball

760
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,319
into a thing like i just you know what you're hitting on right now is the level

761
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,520
of abstraction with video games compared to real sports because

762
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:30,240
what happens everyone has a common experience when the olympics come on street fighter okay super uh smash

763
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,880
there's another one that'd be great street fighter and smash okay okay the lights come on you've never watched pole

764
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:39,359
vaulting in your life you've never watched the sport in your life but you're sitting there and you just

765
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:43,040
instantly get it you can appreciate when someone does a good job you're like that

766
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:46,079
was amazing yeah that will never happen with esports someone puts on a starcraft

767
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,800
2 match you don't know that they have all these battle cruises

768
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:55,200
you're just like oh that guy has chips okay like it's too abstracted from a

769
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,040
visceral feeling that we can all share and experience i agree with you i think

770
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:03,200
it's far more likely that they'll just form make their own olympics i agree

771
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,760
with blackjack they should have that and you know well we all know friends line

772
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:14,000
yeah from close friends that you pay to hang out with you employees hey friends i've got

773
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,839
those i'm out of here all right

774
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,520
so uh i think that's pretty much it for the lan show today we will see you guys

775
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,160
again next week same bat time same bat channel

776
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,960
let's roll that no guarantee on the time don't talk i'm

777
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:36,800
can sing on the intro all right fine never gonna turn around

778
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,800
deserve you

779
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:40,640
how weird is that guy's voice though

780
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:52,240
yeah this guy was talking to me dude i gotta put this thing here put it that way yeah and that one and

781
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,240
that one bye
