are you ready are you ready for the show wait it's
good because we're live oh that whole time
no no no just oh just just now i've been saying are are you
ready for for a while it's not like an impression or anything it's just like uh
oh i thought you said it you said it so many times that i just assumed it was
something i didn't get i thought it was like muppets or something no no no no no
if i was gonna do muppets i'd probably go like four committee frog here maybe
we're going to do the rancho like this oh that's a great jordan peterson impression jordan peterson i don't even
know who that is is that a reference that i should get is he famous yeah or she i guess jordan's
one of those names that can go either way uh all right so we've got a great
show for you guys today um
well i mean james is here so it'll be an adequate show for you guys today uh
we've got new google glasses
evga is apparently ditching cds next
week a mop just
we do actually we didn't even have a mock we had a broom we didn't have a mob we had a broom
handle with a wig on it almost as good
uh a dozen employees quit google in protest against a military project and
what else we got possibly new google glasses
it's still prototype phase and evga
not giving new dvds anymore gonna give you usb sticks instead wait how do you
not have the youtube red thing in here that is like the biggest news of this
week i go to our forum i look what's on the front page of the
forum then when i exhaust the forum i go to my other favorite
ours tech crunch the verge bloomberg
that must be on there it's not okay well we're gonna talk
about that too you're gonna wing it and i'm gonna sit back and just take it in
he's good yeah music
yeah you're just you're just talking over the music
it's good it's terrible no it's good no it's terrible people hate it no they
love it have you ever watched you ever not been on the land show and
watched it because i lived my life before i worked here doing that
and i liked it i liked when you guys talked during that
p.i.a i think you were the only one oh yeah we probably should have had that on
the screening before we hired people like do you like it or dislike it when
we talk over the intro music on the WAN Show and that so
that's disqualifying if you like it so here's the thing
when we hire we usually do some kind of a skill
testing quiz and there are answers that if you get
them wrong your application gets immediately put
into a bin this guy likes the matrix sequels
i was younger than you when they came out for one
and it might only be three years but that makes a difference when you're talking about like a 14 year old no
they were so bad
they should have okay they're they're different they're they're different okay
what were there were there two sequels or three sequels well there are three
movies so two sequels okay so which hold on a
second so reloaded and revolutions both came
out in 2003 and is reloaded the one with the two
weird twins yes well they're in both movies okay so
don't take this the wrong way but i didn't even make it
through the second one let alone watch the third one which i heard was
much worse the third one is worse okay
you're throwing the baby out with the bath water because yes
hear me out okay what's the baby the baby is like one of the best car chases
in cinema history kick-ass fight scenes like there's parts of the matrix that
aren't just the like counter culture and cool story
there's parts of it that are making a good movie like the kung fu and the fight choreography
choreography or sweet and they're really sweet in that movie yeah so the is the
photography good too the photography the lithography what about the
cinematography the cinomatic wow i can't even do that
one i had to think about it also okay there's a part where he fights a pile of
cg agent smith that looks like dog junk now
but that was good when it came out it was
cutting edge oh cool lordy um so
okay i'll admit that watching that then
i didn't get that because okay honestly
the worst the worst instances of like
cgi aging badly and it really
taking you out of the experience are when you see the evolution of
computer graphics over the course of a series of movies
yeah okay so i think like lord of the rings did a pretty good job of this
where even though the movies were released years ago i felt them at the same time did they film all the time
they would have done the like post-processing later though
like i know for a fact that scene in return of the king where they're like
surrounded by the entire army of like orcs and stuff
i know for a fact that was done like towards the end and that scene probably
wouldn't have even been possible with the computer hardware that was available
when fellowship came out like that was a really really demanding
thing because every single one of those had like some kind of like reactionary
ai or something so i i heard they i remember reading this article where they
had a really hard time getting the um the heroes to not like
try to break out and run away or something like they had to force them to stay
inside this ring because they because there were like
self-preservation things anyway apparently it was part of the way that they did like the really large scale uh
like overviews of the battlefield anyway um
so one of the series that really suffered from this for me
is uh oh oh oh oh oh oh people are
people are spoilers we're talking about the lord of the rin and the matrix 1999
people um uh people are mad because we're not
talking about tech okay we are talking about technology and movies
technically that is tech also like the venn diagram
is almost completely overlapped with this audience and lord of the rings and
these movies like how can you anyway anyway okay so uh where was i going
there's right the harry potter movies because not only were the first two and
especially the first one done like before the later ones because
obviously that's how it works um
except star wars so okay that's the thing uh
shut up not only that but they were way lower
budget like you can really tell looking up and you're like oh wow they like
weren't even really trying with some of this stuff i remember being a child and
seeing the first one and thinking that it was pretty good me too control came
on screen but like it's cutting edge for the time that's in the second one but oh
wait is that no you're right that isn't the first one yeah so so yeah it was no
no i don't even think that was top of the line at the time but it was like pretty good so they were lower budget
they were done earlier and i went back and re-watched the entire thing because
they had like a box at costco with the whole thing and i bought it because i'm
an idiot um and i was like wow these are kids movies
and then prisoner of azkaban rolls around you're like oh
yeah now the best one yeah now they're like real movies all of a sudden
um so do you think they should do a re-release like they do with star wars
when they up like remaster it make the graphics better you know what
because aside from daniel ratcliffe
emma whatever her name is watson thank you and then
redhead whatever yeah if anyone knows universal ginge the most famous ginger
ever yeah what does he like drive a bus now or something what yeah i heard you
like got out of show business and you just wanted to like drive a bus that'd
be sweet yeah daniel day lewis moved to italy for like five years just make shoes at one point yeah anyway um
because aside from their acting getting markedly better also
like you could probably you could you could re-cgi and i think you could
actually make it a significantly more immersive movie she had george lucas on it he should be
on the team just oversee it you know he's got experience in this he
does a good job he does a hell of a job but he undertakes those projects anyway
back to agent smith um i will agree with you that at the time that didn't pull me
out of the movie like i felt like that's pretty cool wow it really looks like
he's fighting a bunch of agent smiths that was still a terrible movie well
that's the thing is a lot of people with the immersion not being broken for me a lot of people just hate the fact that he
fought a bunch of agents oh i was actually okay with that because i was also a kid okay yeah
no it was i don't that's like far from the worst part of that movie it was just
what is the worst part is that when he has powers outside of the matrix at the
end spoiler uh because that's i think like the biggest
division between the first one and the sequels you know what i'm gonna be honest with
you i don't remember it well enough i just remember it being freaky you're
just bandwagoning all the people who hate it you should watch it again
the cards okay look i watched the first one again
like a couple years ago that last weekend and it's so bad oh it's awesome
no it's not moving on no it is so bad
like there's no way i would like the second one if the first one has aged
that poorly it's so cheesy the leather like the leather is not cool anymore no
oh no it's not and the worst part is that like i've seen keanu keanu keanu
actually act reasonably well i'm sure of it can't recall it right now can you say
woe as good as he says woe in that movie
i feel like i have to try
i just i just jumped i just jumped from the building we're standing on to
another skyscraper across the way whoa
it wasn't bad that wasn't bad what a dick i know what you remind me of
this pickle ad that i'm looking at you know what that's you an angry green dick
right there that's you which one left or right uh
you know what you're the shorter one huh there
a little bit a little girthier though take that
all right all right why don't we do an actual tech topic at some point here so
uh the verge has an article here on a
reported google glass it'll be an ar headset and
oh wow i was going to say it looks just as bad no no that's not that's the
original i wait no that's i hesitate to even call it a new google
glass because i suspect that they're going to change it all together
that probably wouldn't be a terrible thing because it is impossible not to
look like a complete jackass wearing that thing
yeah so my theories about why the first one failed have to do exactly with
the things that they they thought were highlights they thought it was so good
that the camera was up and out of your eye so you had to
look up at it to see it you mean the screen the camera around the screen but i mean
the screen you're right um but that makes it so useless because
what you want is like a mixed reality you want all the digital stuff to be
right there superimposed that's what they're doing with this one it's more
like hololens okay but it's untethered
self-contained it'll have cameras and microphones and it'll use the same new
qualcomm chips as the upcoming hololens so it's a qsc603 four core chip based on
an ARM architecture it'll be built by taiwanese computer maker quanta and is
apparently still in the prototyping stage so is that all we know about it
right now i think so i think that's that's basically i would say it's
probably on the same bit of production cycle as the the rumored apple what's it
called project titan their glasses hmm
whose do you think will be better
because google will have a much better ai i mean siri i swear siri has actually
gotten dumber over the last few years
i would think that apples would maybe be a better hardware product and their ar
their ar kit ar stuff is quite good but
it will certainly be tethered with the iphone because apple now makes products
to squeeze more money out of iphone users whereas this being purportedly
untethered like i'm reading that as completely
standalone device you don't even need to have a phone if that's true
then it has the assistant on it to be useful right
and that's a whole different game that's apples and oranges at that point
man i don't even like i don't i'm just trying to here okay here's my issue with
augmented reality is like
you know what i actually this is unusual but i want to hear from twitch chat
i want you guys to start throwing some some some messages in the twitch chat
let me know what
and you can't you can't hedge you can't hedge okay you gotta pick one
what is one thing that you want
ar glasses to do that would make you buy
and i'm gonna throw a price point at you let's say they're not cheap i'm gonna
say 500 us dollars oh i thought you're gonna say a thousand no 500 i think 500
is reasonable so 500 us dollars and you
pull the trigger immediately what's the feature
go so are you ready with one because i've got one if you're right you go you let
me go first okay so for me
one of the things that i have like i i can't think of anything personally that
would inspire me to spend that kind of money because my entire life pretty much
revolves around my phone screen or my computer screen
and i've i don't find myself having a desire to overlay information on top of
a screen with a screen like that's not really a thing i get up in the morning i
like check the news on my phone i ate my breakfast i take my kids to school i
drive so i'm driving then i get to work i sit down in front of my computer or
i'm shooting in which case i'll have my phone with me if i need to like send out
a quick tweet or whatever something you won't be able to do with glasses anyway
then i drive home then i spend time with my kids then i am on a screen or or not
on a screen ideally that that's it so i'm never that far away if i like really
need to you know look something up and i've smartwatched too of course
for me the justification would be
business okay so when i'm traveling if i had the
ability to be at like a um
some kind of a cocktail mixer or something or if i walked into a business
meeting um or like the suite at computex
for ASUS and this thing starts recognizing people
that are on my social networks so then all i have to do is like add people to
facebook or linkedin yes there's an app that does something like that yeah okay
but here's the thing it needs to do it well so it needs to be able to go okay here's
their name here's uh a couple things about them
here's the last email that you exchanged with them if applicable like it needs to
be able to aggregate all of this data and help me avoid embarrassing
situations where like i'm like yeah it was really nice to meet you and
they're like we've had three meetings over the last
you know eight years i'm just like well that's enough meetings that i should
feel really bad but in my defense
when i go to these types of shows i usually meet anywhere from 200 to 500
people in a span of a week and i'm sorry but unless you you have like bright
orange hair on one side and bright purple hair on the other side i'm
probably not going to remember you that's how max got hired by the way she
was the most memorable applicant no i'm just kidding i actually wasn't involved in the
problem what you're describing sounds to me like what the facebook app for that
form factor would be yeah and it's consistent with google's
ultimate vision which is not only like here can i jump in because
these are these are going away too quickly can i jump in with some other
people's things uh sorry hold hold that so oh man
some people are asking for unreasonable things like complete replacement of your
smartphone and smartwatch input there's no the input isn't there i don't think
that makes any sense okay google maps with ar
yeah i can see that having a value that would be sweet the navigation is just
right over top of the road yeah all right but really 500 bucks
you'd buy it for that like how often do you really navigate somewhere exactly if
i was an uber driver maybe yeah so again that's a professional use though
um google search info
okay wow holy crap this is respecting
women way too fast if this device respected women i'd buy it like that
dash cam feature like shadow play being able to go back
and record any moment in your life just recording everything there's an episode
of dark mirror like that or black mirror you don't want that
yeah i could see it being useful but it's also a big problem when does that
oh wow relationship status
i could see a lot of people buying it for that that would be sweet like if
basically like the the tinder app for that form factor you walk around it's
just like yep that's a tinder user oh wow that okay
imagine like real world tinder people walking around with these headsets just
like oh wow and you could swipe with your head so you just look at people and be
like no no
nope like you're walking up to someone you like you see them there's a thing
over your head you both know the others on tinder they're looking at you going like this you're like nah like you make
eye contact across the room and you're both just like
yeah um a lot of people are saying what a desk though nope a lot of people are
saying porn but like why like why do you who would want to be
walking around with like a raging erection
because they're like watching porn while they're on the bus like what is the
point of that like i know i know okay so here's the thing it's like i
think most people are probably just saying that to be funny
but i'm sure at least a handful of you
i'm sure at least a handful of you will legitimately would watch porn on a plane
or on a bus or whatever if you could
and to those people i would say really like
really like i i think i think
you know what i think i'm not going to get into imagine all the extensions you could get all the hilarious filters you
could get where like someone's talking to you and you just see objects around
their head like okay wang's coming at you wangs around Linus
viewing schematics and diagrams like large scale schematics and diagrams like
if you could have whatever you're working on and then
you could just like have a picture in picture effectively
over your vision of of like a manual or something along those lines that's
actually what i would pick what i would pick as a collaborative
like virtual object app where you and i could sit we could be having a
conversation you have an idea you want to describe the idea to me instead of
using limited language you just say okay here's a cube and you rotate it and it
tracks your hand so you can manipulate it aristaka has another commercial
purpose if you worked at a car dealership and the client comes in and
asks you a question about like that used car
like you know who was the previous owner how many kilometers does it have on it
all of a sudden you could just be like bippity boppity sir i've got all those
answers for you give me one minute i just have to stare at the car for a
second hold on hold on yeah okay it's all loaded all right so here's what we got
for you i mean i can see that again another professional application so i
see this being a professional device initially
much like hololens but that's consistent with google's google lens right google's
ultimate aim was to bring information to you before you query it you don't even
have to search it comes to you as you need it and that's what lens is if you
looked at google i o last week they had demos where you're you're basically walking around
chicago and you look at a historic building and yeah up comes the wikipedia page for
it and it's an ar so it's got the nice depth to it
that's that's exactly what you're talking about you look at an object of
relevance to you and like that yeah but i guess yes i just
you know i'm not much of a like information about this building buff
like for me okay you walk by a restaurant yeah that kind of looks okay and then there's the four-star rating
the reviews okay that would be useful but here's the problem it has to
actually work like i was in london this week and i'm i'm i'm standing where i'm
standing i got my little you know blue dot facing whatever direction it thinks
i'm facing that seems to be just kind of like a
yeah come on baby you know like i agree with you yeah it's
not accurate at all um and i searched for food which i would think would bring
up restaurants or restaurant or whatever i searched for something and it just
it's just random like like i walked past
an italian restaurant that looked fine and had a good rating
when i like manually searched for it
on my way to the italian restaurant that it brought up in the search result i'm
just kind of sitting here going italian was right in the name
and it was on my way like it was closer to me than the thing that you found like
it just seems arbitrary sometimes and so it's it's frustrating for me to for
google to come out and say we're going to have this amazing technology your
phone is going to call your hair stylist and make an appointment for you you're
going to put on these glasses and they're going to dynamically tell you everything you need to know about
everything you're looking at when they don't even have the basic
stuff working right now italian
freaking restaurant oh there's a problem right there handle that
i wanted pizza okay
i actually didn't want pizza wanted anything that my wife would also
eat that's what i wanted
that is get full i did that for you oh thank you i did forgot ice but no i
intentionally didn't put icing because when you have ice in your water bottle you drink it weird
you contort your mouth so that the ice doesn't come out i just don't like the way your face looks when you do it i
don't like warm water though it's not warm
you know what just just for you i'm gonna drink my water like that all the
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that's true you have a point there uh evga ditches cds for usb sticks this was
originally posted on the forum by vegetable stew and the original i love
that guy's name by the way it's from yeah it's stu ha ha ha ha ha what um
yeah well yeah okay stew like it that's his name his name is dude dang it a
non-tech how do i get rid of this thank you uh so this is actually something i asked
you i asked you as a noob i was like why are they giving discs
when i don't i and everyone else doesn't
have yeah drink it doesn't have a dvd
player anymore and you told me it's because
it's way more expensive to give away flash drives
and evga actually confirmed that even though evga is ditching dvds for their
all the drivers and giving you an eight Gigabyte flash drive instead
they actually did admit that it's 20 times more expensive to give you a flash
drive but they're still doing it so 20 times more expensive would be like
because how much do i think i think a disc costs like on the order of like
three cents or something like that like i like basically it's probably
costing them a few bucks though for each one with that said evga has a bit of an
advantage here compared to other motherboard makers because they don't
really make any entry-level boards so
every motherboard that they sell will have enough margin in it that they could
probably afford to throw in a usb drive and there have been high-end boards
before that came with usb drives yeah they're not the first to it that's
freaking awesome though especially because flash like nand flash has gotten to the
point where it's not any more cost effective to make like a a one gig usb
drive than it is to do an eight gig usb drive like eight gigs is the size they
start at so that's what evga is providing and what's cool about that is
eight gigs is exactly the right size for you to be able to use it for um and it's
uh install iso a dvd iso oh i thought you're gonna say two blu-rays
no because it's not enough for that uh bluetooth is like four gigs no dvds four
gigs blu-rays dvds were like 700 megabytes no that's
cds cds are 650 or 700 dvds are 4.7 and then
blu-rays are like 40 and 80 like they go
up they go up much higher like 20 40 80 or something like that when i used to be
a scumbag torrented movies they were always about 700 megabytes
yeah that's because they were 720p seriously downscaled so that scrubs like
you yeah who were too cheap not only to buy movies but also to pay for more
internet download definitely yep
didn't go over their data limits so blu-rays are 25 and 50.
eight gigs okay yeah um well you can put some word
documents on it how about that uh wait eight gigs
no you can put a dvd you can put an iso on it that's what i'm trying to say
so they say the cost increase will not trickle down to the consumer which is of
course nonsense
i think all that means is they're not adjusting the pricing of their current
generation of boards but that doesn't mean that when they consider the bomb
costs the bill of materials for their next generation
that they won't consider that that's another two or
three dollars this could have been two dollars cheaper this whole time
um okay this was originally posted over on
gizmodo um it was posted on the forum by pyrie
pyrite pi pyriai i think and dozens of employees have quit google
in protest against a military project what is this project maven okay wait a
second a dozen not dozens yeah sorry a dozen so
far so project maven is a project that
google's working on in collaboration really a project they called it project
maven and it's a project it's an undertaking
wow okay you do it do tell me more no no actually you have to do it because i'm
checking on notes on the youtube premium thing that you didn't put in here
despite protests from employees why would an employee ever protest
google is charging ahead with the department of defense collaboration to produce machine learning software
for american military drones project maven aims to speed up the
analysis of drone footage by automatically classifying images of
objects and people and now a dozen people google employees
are resigning in protests over the company's continued involvement and this
is in addition to about 4 000 employees who have voice concern and a petition
that was circulated internally yeah so basically project maven is a way
of using ai to identify targets in
for and okay it doesn't say explicitly but the
the assumption so this is all like allegedly but the assumption is that the
technology is going to be used to identify targets for drone strikes
is ultimately what people are mostly upset about uh google has emphasized
though google claims it is only providing open source software to
project maven which means the military would be able to still use the
technology even if google didn't accept payment or offer technical assistant and
they have emphasized that its ai is not being used to kill the technology is
used to flag images for human review and
is intended to save lives and save people from having to do highly tedious
work and of course i mean you could see the the objections to this their mission
statement from the beginning was don't be evil yeah but that's nowhere in their
documentation anymore as far as i know but it's still baked into the company
ethos and a lot of people who work there make it's
possible that you worked there for a long time and that was the mission statement when you were hired for a
large part of your career second part of it is that
google it's been argued that google has is mandated to protect all of its users and
they have a global user base so this is
this project serves the interest of the us
and the weaponry that's developed from it could be used
to harm google users who are not in the us right so where does their
responsibility lie this is great frontal on the uh in
twitch chat deciding whether or not to kill someone equals highly tedious work
dang so there are other american companies major tech companies including
ibm and amazon that have refused to work
with the u.s defense department um
but the counter argument to that i don't think you read that correctly
sorry what's that in addition to the petition circulating inside google the title launched the
position sorry there was another petition that tried to get other companies like ibm and amazon and to
work together to refuse to work with the u.s defense department so the counter
argument to that is like well don't you want
the united don't you want america to you know
keep up with you know other countries like you know
it is it's like do you think that the engineers at baidu are quitting because
they don't want to do defense contracts with the chinese government
do you think that's happening the engineers at yandex and russia do you
want the us to be overpowered by other nations that that
get this kind of work done from the private sector
well private sector i mean what do you is baidu private
sector technically i don't know uh well that's the other thing what
happens to you if you protest i'm not even going there so
if it's going to be happening anyway then who do you want to hold this kind of
technology
announced that it's hella trying to i could see why you wouldn't want to be
the one working on it but you should probably understand that when you walk away there's another engineer is going
to work on it and if that engine and then if that injury's not at google that engine will
be either from a different company in the us or another
company in different country baidu apparently not state-owned as of this
article from 2015 i don't know if it's uh i don't know if that's up to date but
i was just curious oh that's not what i thought you meant explicitly but all
right um all right so let's move on then
to youtube complete dog's breakfast um
oh sorry excuse me uh youtube premium so the original article here is from the
verge and basically so how much do you know about youtube red
very little okay so right now
um
okay i'm just trying to i'm trying to remember what youtube music is oh yeah
you're right crap what is youtube music
oh google always does this i know it's
so frustrating okay no no so that one's coming soon okay okay so google so okay
so on the play store you can like get music
okay but i think
ah trying to remember all the different like whatever let's just go with how it
was up until now so google play music lets you stream music
and like download music to your device okay it's like i forget it's like ten dollars
a month or eight dollars a month or fifteen for the family plan but those are crazy so i have the family plan um
and yeah i pay like 15 canadian or 16 canadian or something like that
okay so then for a few us dollars more
than google play music you can get youtube red which strips the ads
out of youtube videos that is the like the google supplied the adsense supplied
ads and and gives you access to google play
music it also gives you additional benefits within the youtube app so the
ability to play song videos for example with the screen off with the phone in
your pocket is this how it works now because i thought before it was like if
you bought google play music you just got youtube red
and i think it was the other way around and now i know because i i got music and
i was super stoked on that and then i found out that i wasn't in the that was not in canada
i was like ah this whole thing has been so messy okay let's just let's just
let's just do how it's gonna work now okay all right so so youtube red is gone
apparently they were tired of being called red tube no kidding you idiot
yeah i know i know right how could they have possibly red tube's been around
since like 2007 or something like that no something like
that well look at him covering covering him no because youtube itself came out
in 2007 so redtube must have been no youtube was 2005. that's fine um okay so
youtube red is being replaced sort of by
youtube premium which gives you ad-free music
the ability to listen in the background you're correct and downloads
as well as ad-free video the ability to play in the background this is cool
downloads on youtube videos so you will
now be able to load up youtube videos on your phone before a flight or whatever
not have to use one of those ripping tools when i want to rip something off
um sweet i can finally get them in there
i mean compensate the artist is that that what you mean anyway um also all
youtube originals so youtube red
originals or whatever they were calling those are now just called youtube
originals and then youtube music premium
for just two dollars less so this is like a
pretty terrible deal as far as i can tell just gives you ad-free music so other
other videos will have ads and the ability to listen in the background and
download music specifically and then how google play music figures
into all this i can't remember yes right if you have a google play music
subscription you get youtube music as part of that membership play music is
not going away yet but um it'll be hard play music what's that
in other news youtube premium is finally coming to
canada so i plan to get it immediately because
i am so totally editors can rip off i am so
tired no it's nothing to do with that it's because youtube forces me to break
their own terms of service every day because what do you mean you are not
allowed according to google's terms of service to watch your own ads or
interact with your own ads
because it inflates your viewership numbers it's like being an amazon
affiliate and sending getting your friends to buy the thing you're an affiliate for no that's fine no you
can't do that you can't no
i can't be like hey guys i here's my affiliate link to buy this t-shirt all
my friends and family if you're gonna buy this t-shirt use my link you can't do that
oh oh i see what you mean okay well it's a little i think it's a little bit
different from that because it's like actually like it's it's it's it amounts
to it's like it's a holdover from the days of click fraud where written
websites would have banners up on their sites and then they'd like
just click on their own ads all day so that they could get a bunch of money but
but no one ever actually looked at that so any time i watch a video like an
unskipable video unskippable ad for example might show up and then
i sit through it i have effectively fraudulently
given an impression to that video don't they know the
ip of the uploader but if they know that and no it's a little more complicated
than that because i could be using a different device but we're talking when
i'm logged in so i've been asking google for this for
ages when i'm logged in don't serve an ad on
my video but they cannot figure this out or
they just don't care that's the second one is more likely one so finally i
won't have to break google's terms of service
just by being a youtuber and that's wonderful
that makes my heart fuzzy
um they're like stop we all know you use
adblocker no i don't
um all right so what else what else do
we have today do we have anything interesting oh oh oh yeah okay so for
anyone who was sort of speculating that maybe ASUS really wanted to do the ares
brand um
no they did not they as of now
now that uh now that uh GeForce partner program is officially dead erez is gone
rog is back so that's good glad that's all behind
you that's conclusive yeah
do you think there's gonna are there any errors
uh cards out there this could be like a larabee thing if we
can get our hands on one that'd be cool i don't think so i mean if there's an
employee out there who has one that'd be really cool to get our hands on that
um all right according to wccf texas posted
by black gup on the forum we've got rumors of a gtx his name wasn't 70.
black gupp no it's a up let's buck up oh oh buck up you need to buck up oh
sorry i don't know black gup look
i come from a home covered in black cup
i come from eight time zones away right now i landed
back in this country like 24 hours ago
the people who are still in that time zone feel so according to the leaks the gtx 1170
will be powered by a 104 class GPU codenamed gt 104 what would t be
so it's not volta what was it um
oh i don't remember what the rumored t code name was going to be it'll be
approximately 400 millimeters square so that's a pretty big chip okay
2688 cuda cores 256 bit ddr6 memory
interface 8 to 16 gigs of gddr6 memory well that's
good that it has an interface that matches the amount of or the the type of
memory it's rumored to have so the rumor managed to get hopefully at least that
much right uh clocks of 1.5 to 1.8
gigahertz depending on boost um
so this would put it in the same league as the existing gtx 1080 ti so once
again if you invested
infested because of crypto haha uh if you invested not invested if you plunked
down the money for a top tier card a top-tier ti card you are once again
going to have to wait two generations in order to get any kind of significant
upgrade from NVIDIA so we've seen this a
lot of times now where the gtx 680 ti
was the last time they uh was it the 680 ti
yeah the wait gtx 16 no they never did a 680
ti so the gtx 680 was the top tier of that generation
and then in the next gen there was a 770
that was exactly the same thing and then
no 780 maybe it's 700 series that i'm thinking of so 700 series
yeah then you've got a 980 that didn't then the 980 ti didn't come till later
that's right so 780 ti was very similar in performance to the gtx 980. so when
the 900 series rolled around if you had a top-tier card there was basically no
upgrade for you until the 980 ti came or
the um yeah the 980 ti came quite some time later then the 980 ti was actually
quite similar to a 1070 or 1080 so there wasn't much of an upgrade there until
the 1080 ti came quite a bit later so you actually have to kind of
wait at least a half generation in order to get an upgrade if you bought the top
tier card from last time around so
that combined with the fact that the 10 series launched like when did the 10
series launch so gtx 10 when did the 1080 ti launch
let's find out the ti yeah um so that was back in march of
2017 so it's been a full year you will still have no upgrade path from that
so the only people who will be upgrading are probably people who bought 1080s
or before so that was way back in may
2016. people who bought 1080s and who've been
waiting for a significant upgrade at that same price tier
and we don't actually don't even know anything about pricing because while the
credit no there is one there is one tidbit about the pricing here oh okay
it's going to cost more than it did last generation 500 bucks sure that's that's
what is being guest apparently for the 1170 specifically
all right and that's a super rumor that's just like whispers around the industry
indicate yeah NVIDIA's been known to mislead
people like i still remember there was a launch it might have been the 580 or
something like that where they literally changed the pricing on us the day before
and like no one knew their own partners by a lot or
it was like a hundred dollars or something like that was pretty significant up or down um down yeah yeah
can't complain though right yeah that's old news though NVIDIA like surprising
the industry with great pricing that's not a thing anymore uh sc2 mitch posted
this one on the forum this was uh originally posted on inside games.biz
and i gotta say this shouldn't surprise me but it does
it shouldn't because it's been on the lan show before well whatever i probably skipped it
because i was like oh that's boring so the ioc is to host an esports summit in
whatever however you pronounce that lausanne
lausanne in july you're supposed to be a french
speaker oh is it french it's in switzerland
all right so basically this is just to continue the organization's
dialogue with the gaming industry it's just a one day meeting
and in due course
approach the stakeholders of the olympic movement again
never gonna happen man esports will never be in the olympics and i argue
that they don't belong in the olympics
i'm not gonna disagree with you i'm not even gonna play devil's advocate here because i don't think it makes a ton of
sense but with that said there is stuff in the olympics that i don't necessarily
think belongs in the olympics sure
sure there's i mean here you know what let's bring up
the full list the speed walking and stuff olympic i mean the stuff's hard
but the point is that it's athletic the way i look at it is
in athletics there's something you intend to do
there's an action you want to carry out you see that action in your mind and
then because your body has crappy tolerances even though you
want to throw that ball into that particular spot you just
can't do it but in a video game for the most part you can you want your units to
move right there you click there and they move there so i think the fact that
there's greater tolerances that you don't have much control over on your own body that's what really separates i mean
you could make the argument that moving the mouse very precisely is a pretty
a pretty good analog for that sure but that's only a part of the game
and not the whole game there are actually a lot fewer olympic
events than i thought actually most of these aren't that stupid that's winter though no no i got both of them okay
okay hand ball are you gonna put on the screen really handball handball is huge
in europe man there's a bunch of people yelling at you right now huge
pretty ba too all right well then fine so so is there
is there anything here that we really think is pretty dumb
football the guy's kicking the buzz and make any sense joking
joking equestrian that's kind of weird
what is dressage a dressage it's like uh fancy walking on horses
it's but again this is like the horse
i guess their skill in training a horse
and i'm sure there's skill as a rider but
you're telling me that if your rider gets hurt that day and you still got the
good horse you're not going to send someone else on top of that good horse and still maybe win
i don't know anything about this sport okay here's another angle that john
martin here the writer of Techquickie told me when we discussed this all those
months ago or maybe it was someone on the forum they basically said an
interesting angle is the fact that
video games are commercial products so you're going to go on to the olympics
and you're going to broadcast something that blizzard owns or something for example so you think
there's a potential like licensing issue here or just like the ioc
wanting to be paid ultimately maybe
someone wanting to get paid or at least it being free advertising right it's
bizarre and then there's another quote here that says that they're not going to
do anything they said killer games but the guy has a
has an accent so but violent games and that's like half the games half the comp
like the competitive ones especially yeah like what what games are
competitive that don't involve killing i mean i guess like dota is a lot better
than call of duty okay yeah okay like cartoony or
something but that's a fair point like you're not gonna want direct or something you're not gonna watch
civilization six in the olympics yeah
i mean all right
they're games they're not sports i don't want to see them there oh man so
they're like there's stuff that you could like shooting is shooting a sport
then was it a game what
why not like just shooting a target like it's
super physical or like archery
where's your argument that it's not well you okay games are in the mind you think
games are in the mind they're in the mind chess is a quintessential game
you you compute what you want to happen and the the action of carrying out that
task yeah is a non-issue you just pick it up and put it there that's not the
hard part of the game it's the computation that's the hard part of the game in sports it's the carrying out of
the task that's difficult everybody wants to get the ball across the line it's doing that is hard
i would argue that i would argue that video games sit in between though i
agree like i agree it's just a grey area i agree with that but you say it'll
never happen i think they're way closer to the game end i'm sure twitch chat is
hitting us up with some games that aren't uh that don't have killing okay
rocket league i can't rocket league is just soccer
yeah i can't imagine watching rocket league like in the olympics i
just i like oh man i just i have a hard time like it's such
a ridiculous concept i think the like
these cars running around and like using their butts to hit a giant ball
into a thing like i just you know what you're hitting on right now is the level
of abstraction with video games compared to real sports because
what happens everyone has a common experience when the olympics come on street fighter okay super uh smash
there's another one that'd be great street fighter and smash okay okay the lights come on you've never watched pole
vaulting in your life you've never watched the sport in your life but you're sitting there and you just
instantly get it you can appreciate when someone does a good job you're like that
was amazing yeah that will never happen with esports someone puts on a starcraft
2 match you don't know that they have all these battle cruises
you're just like oh that guy has chips okay like it's too abstracted from a
visceral feeling that we can all share and experience i agree with you i think
it's far more likely that they'll just form make their own olympics i agree
with blackjack they should have that and you know well we all know friends line
yeah from close friends that you pay to hang out with you employees hey friends i've got
those i'm out of here all right
so uh i think that's pretty much it for the lan show today we will see you guys
again next week same bat time same bat channel
let's roll that no guarantee on the time don't talk i'm
can sing on the intro all right fine never gonna turn around
deserve you
how weird is that guy's voice though
yeah this guy was talking to me dude i gotta put this thing here put it that way yeah and that one and
that one bye