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are you ready are you ready for the show wait it's

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good because we're live oh that whole time

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no no no just oh just just now i've been saying are are you

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ready for for a while it's not like an impression or anything it's just like uh

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oh i thought you said it you said it so many times that i just assumed it was

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something i didn't get i thought it was like muppets or something no no no no no

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if i was gonna do muppets i'd probably go like four committee frog here maybe

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we're going to do the rancho like this oh that's a great jordan peterson impression jordan peterson i don't even

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know who that is is that a reference that i should get is he famous yeah or she i guess jordan's

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one of those names that can go either way uh all right so we've got a great

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show for you guys today um

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well i mean james is here so it'll be an adequate show for you guys today uh

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we've got new google glasses

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evga is apparently ditching cds next

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week a mop just

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we do actually we didn't even have a mock we had a broom we didn't have a mob we had a broom

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handle with a wig on it almost as good

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uh a dozen employees quit google in protest against a military project and

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what else we got possibly new google glasses

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it's still prototype phase and evga

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not giving new dvds anymore gonna give you usb sticks instead wait how do you

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not have the youtube red thing in here that is like the biggest news of this

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week i go to our forum i look what's on the front page of the

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forum then when i exhaust the forum i go to my other favorite

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ours tech crunch the verge bloomberg

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that must be on there it's not okay well we're gonna talk

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about that too you're gonna wing it and i'm gonna sit back and just take it in

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he's good yeah music

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yeah you're just you're just talking over the music

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it's good it's terrible no it's good no it's terrible people hate it no they

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love it have you ever watched you ever not been on the land show and

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watched it because i lived my life before i worked here doing that

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and i liked it i liked when you guys talked during that

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p.i.a i think you were the only one oh yeah we probably should have had that on

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the screening before we hired people like do you like it or dislike it when

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we talk over the intro music on the WAN Show and that so

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that's disqualifying if you like it so here's the thing

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when we hire we usually do some kind of a skill

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testing quiz and there are answers that if you get

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them wrong your application gets immediately put

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into a bin this guy likes the matrix sequels

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i was younger than you when they came out for one

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and it might only be three years but that makes a difference when you're talking about like a 14 year old no

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they were so bad

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they should have okay they're they're different they're they're different okay

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what were there were there two sequels or three sequels well there are three

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movies so two sequels okay so which hold on a

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second so reloaded and revolutions both came

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out in 2003 and is reloaded the one with the two

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weird twins yes well they're in both movies okay so

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don't take this the wrong way but i didn't even make it

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through the second one let alone watch the third one which i heard was

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much worse the third one is worse okay

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you're throwing the baby out with the bath water because yes

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hear me out okay what's the baby the baby is like one of the best car chases

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in cinema history kick-ass fight scenes like there's parts of the matrix that

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aren't just the like counter culture and cool story

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there's parts of it that are making a good movie like the kung fu and the fight choreography

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choreography or sweet and they're really sweet in that movie yeah so the is the

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photography good too the photography the lithography what about the

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cinematography the cinomatic wow i can't even do that

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one i had to think about it also okay there's a part where he fights a pile of

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cg agent smith that looks like dog junk now

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but that was good when it came out it was

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cutting edge oh cool lordy um so

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okay i'll admit that watching that then

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i didn't get that because okay honestly

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the worst the worst instances of like

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cgi aging badly and it really

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taking you out of the experience are when you see the evolution of

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computer graphics over the course of a series of movies

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yeah okay so i think like lord of the rings did a pretty good job of this

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where even though the movies were released years ago i felt them at the same time did they film all the time

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they would have done the like post-processing later though

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like i know for a fact that scene in return of the king where they're like

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surrounded by the entire army of like orcs and stuff

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i know for a fact that was done like towards the end and that scene probably

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wouldn't have even been possible with the computer hardware that was available

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when fellowship came out like that was a really really demanding

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thing because every single one of those had like some kind of like reactionary

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ai or something so i i heard they i remember reading this article where they

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had a really hard time getting the um the heroes to not like

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try to break out and run away or something like they had to force them to stay

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inside this ring because they because there were like

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self-preservation things anyway apparently it was part of the way that they did like the really large scale uh

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like overviews of the battlefield anyway um

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so one of the series that really suffered from this for me

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is uh oh oh oh oh oh oh people are

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people are spoilers we're talking about the lord of the rin and the matrix 1999

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people um uh people are mad because we're not

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talking about tech okay we are talking about technology and movies

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technically that is tech also like the venn diagram

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is almost completely overlapped with this audience and lord of the rings and

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these movies like how can you anyway anyway okay so uh where was i going

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there's right the harry potter movies because not only were the first two and

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especially the first one done like before the later ones because

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obviously that's how it works um

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except star wars so okay that's the thing uh

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shut up not only that but they were way lower

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budget like you can really tell looking up and you're like oh wow they like

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weren't even really trying with some of this stuff i remember being a child and

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seeing the first one and thinking that it was pretty good me too control came

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on screen but like it's cutting edge for the time that's in the second one but oh

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wait is that no you're right that isn't the first one yeah so so yeah it was no

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no i don't even think that was top of the line at the time but it was like pretty good so they were lower budget

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they were done earlier and i went back and re-watched the entire thing because

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they had like a box at costco with the whole thing and i bought it because i'm

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an idiot um and i was like wow these are kids movies

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and then prisoner of azkaban rolls around you're like oh

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yeah now the best one yeah now they're like real movies all of a sudden

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um so do you think they should do a re-release like they do with star wars

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when they up like remaster it make the graphics better you know what

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because aside from daniel ratcliffe

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emma whatever her name is watson thank you and then

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redhead whatever yeah if anyone knows universal ginge the most famous ginger

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ever yeah what does he like drive a bus now or something what yeah i heard you

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like got out of show business and you just wanted to like drive a bus that'd

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be sweet yeah daniel day lewis moved to italy for like five years just make shoes at one point yeah anyway um

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because aside from their acting getting markedly better also

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like you could probably you could you could re-cgi and i think you could

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actually make it a significantly more immersive movie she had george lucas on it he should be

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on the team just oversee it you know he's got experience in this he

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does a good job he does a hell of a job but he undertakes those projects anyway

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back to agent smith um i will agree with you that at the time that didn't pull me

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out of the movie like i felt like that's pretty cool wow it really looks like

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he's fighting a bunch of agent smiths that was still a terrible movie well

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that's the thing is a lot of people with the immersion not being broken for me a lot of people just hate the fact that he

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fought a bunch of agents oh i was actually okay with that because i was also a kid okay yeah

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no it was i don't that's like far from the worst part of that movie it was just

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what is the worst part is that when he has powers outside of the matrix at the

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end spoiler uh because that's i think like the biggest

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division between the first one and the sequels you know what i'm gonna be honest with

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you i don't remember it well enough i just remember it being freaky you're

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just bandwagoning all the people who hate it you should watch it again

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the cards okay look i watched the first one again

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like a couple years ago that last weekend and it's so bad oh it's awesome

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no it's not moving on no it is so bad

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like there's no way i would like the second one if the first one has aged

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that poorly it's so cheesy the leather like the leather is not cool anymore no

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oh no it's not and the worst part is that like i've seen keanu keanu keanu

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actually act reasonably well i'm sure of it can't recall it right now can you say

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woe as good as he says woe in that movie

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i feel like i have to try

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i just i just jumped i just jumped from the building we're standing on to

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another skyscraper across the way whoa

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it wasn't bad that wasn't bad what a dick i know what you remind me of

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this pickle ad that i'm looking at you know what that's you an angry green dick

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right there that's you which one left or right uh

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you know what you're the shorter one huh there

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a little bit a little girthier though take that

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all right all right why don't we do an actual tech topic at some point here so

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uh the verge has an article here on a

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reported google glass it'll be an ar headset and

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oh wow i was going to say it looks just as bad no no that's not that's the

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original i wait no that's i hesitate to even call it a new google

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glass because i suspect that they're going to change it all together

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that probably wouldn't be a terrible thing because it is impossible not to

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look like a complete jackass wearing that thing

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yeah so my theories about why the first one failed have to do exactly with

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the things that they they thought were highlights they thought it was so good

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that the camera was up and out of your eye so you had to

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look up at it to see it you mean the screen the camera around the screen but i mean

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the screen you're right um but that makes it so useless because

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what you want is like a mixed reality you want all the digital stuff to be

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right there superimposed that's what they're doing with this one it's more

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like hololens okay but it's untethered

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self-contained it'll have cameras and microphones and it'll use the same new

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qualcomm chips as the upcoming hololens so it's a qsc603 four core chip based on

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an ARM architecture it'll be built by taiwanese computer maker quanta and is

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apparently still in the prototyping stage so is that all we know about it

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right now i think so i think that's that's basically i would say it's

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probably on the same bit of production cycle as the the rumored apple what's it

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called project titan their glasses hmm

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whose do you think will be better

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because google will have a much better ai i mean siri i swear siri has actually

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gotten dumber over the last few years

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i would think that apples would maybe be a better hardware product and their ar

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their ar kit ar stuff is quite good but

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it will certainly be tethered with the iphone because apple now makes products

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to squeeze more money out of iphone users whereas this being purportedly

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untethered like i'm reading that as completely

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standalone device you don't even need to have a phone if that's true

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then it has the assistant on it to be useful right

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and that's a whole different game that's apples and oranges at that point

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man i don't even like i don't i'm just trying to here okay here's my issue with

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augmented reality is like

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you know what i actually this is unusual but i want to hear from twitch chat

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i want you guys to start throwing some some some messages in the twitch chat

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let me know what

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and you can't you can't hedge you can't hedge okay you gotta pick one

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what is one thing that you want

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ar glasses to do that would make you buy

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and i'm gonna throw a price point at you let's say they're not cheap i'm gonna

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say 500 us dollars oh i thought you're gonna say a thousand no 500 i think 500

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is reasonable so 500 us dollars and you

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pull the trigger immediately what's the feature

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go so are you ready with one because i've got one if you're right you go you let

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me go first okay so for me

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one of the things that i have like i i can't think of anything personally that

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would inspire me to spend that kind of money because my entire life pretty much

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revolves around my phone screen or my computer screen

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and i've i don't find myself having a desire to overlay information on top of

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a screen with a screen like that's not really a thing i get up in the morning i

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like check the news on my phone i ate my breakfast i take my kids to school i

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drive so i'm driving then i get to work i sit down in front of my computer or

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i'm shooting in which case i'll have my phone with me if i need to like send out

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a quick tweet or whatever something you won't be able to do with glasses anyway

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then i drive home then i spend time with my kids then i am on a screen or or not

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on a screen ideally that that's it so i'm never that far away if i like really

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need to you know look something up and i've smartwatched too of course

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for me the justification would be

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business okay so when i'm traveling if i had the

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ability to be at like a um

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some kind of a cocktail mixer or something or if i walked into a business

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meeting um or like the suite at computex

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for ASUS and this thing starts recognizing people

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that are on my social networks so then all i have to do is like add people to

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facebook or linkedin yes there's an app that does something like that yeah okay

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but here's the thing it needs to do it well so it needs to be able to go okay here's

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their name here's uh a couple things about them

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here's the last email that you exchanged with them if applicable like it needs to

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be able to aggregate all of this data and help me avoid embarrassing

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situations where like i'm like yeah it was really nice to meet you and

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they're like we've had three meetings over the last

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you know eight years i'm just like well that's enough meetings that i should

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feel really bad but in my defense

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when i go to these types of shows i usually meet anywhere from 200 to 500

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people in a span of a week and i'm sorry but unless you you have like bright

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orange hair on one side and bright purple hair on the other side i'm

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probably not going to remember you that's how max got hired by the way she

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was the most memorable applicant no i'm just kidding i actually wasn't involved in the

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problem what you're describing sounds to me like what the facebook app for that

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form factor would be yeah and it's consistent with google's

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ultimate vision which is not only like here can i jump in because

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these are these are going away too quickly can i jump in with some other

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people's things uh sorry hold hold that so oh man

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some people are asking for unreasonable things like complete replacement of your

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smartphone and smartwatch input there's no the input isn't there i don't think

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that makes any sense okay google maps with ar

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yeah i can see that having a value that would be sweet the navigation is just

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right over top of the road yeah all right but really 500 bucks

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you'd buy it for that like how often do you really navigate somewhere exactly if

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i was an uber driver maybe yeah so again that's a professional use though

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um google search info

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okay wow holy crap this is respecting

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women way too fast if this device respected women i'd buy it like that

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dash cam feature like shadow play being able to go back

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and record any moment in your life just recording everything there's an episode

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of dark mirror like that or black mirror you don't want that

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yeah i could see it being useful but it's also a big problem when does that

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oh wow relationship status

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i could see a lot of people buying it for that that would be sweet like if

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basically like the the tinder app for that form factor you walk around it's

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just like yep that's a tinder user oh wow that okay

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imagine like real world tinder people walking around with these headsets just

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like oh wow and you could swipe with your head so you just look at people and be

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like no no

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nope like you're walking up to someone you like you see them there's a thing

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over your head you both know the others on tinder they're looking at you going like this you're like nah like you make

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eye contact across the room and you're both just like

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yeah um a lot of people are saying what a desk though nope a lot of people are

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saying porn but like why like why do you who would want to be

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walking around with like a raging erection

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because they're like watching porn while they're on the bus like what is the

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point of that like i know i know okay so here's the thing it's like i

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think most people are probably just saying that to be funny

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but i'm sure at least a handful of you

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i'm sure at least a handful of you will legitimately would watch porn on a plane

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or on a bus or whatever if you could

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and to those people i would say really like

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really like i i think i think

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you know what i think i'm not going to get into imagine all the extensions you could get all the hilarious filters you

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could get where like someone's talking to you and you just see objects around

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their head like okay wang's coming at you wangs around Linus

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viewing schematics and diagrams like large scale schematics and diagrams like

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if you could have whatever you're working on and then

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you could just like have a picture in picture effectively

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over your vision of of like a manual or something along those lines that's

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actually what i would pick what i would pick as a collaborative

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like virtual object app where you and i could sit we could be having a

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conversation you have an idea you want to describe the idea to me instead of

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using limited language you just say okay here's a cube and you rotate it and it

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tracks your hand so you can manipulate it aristaka has another commercial

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purpose if you worked at a car dealership and the client comes in and

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asks you a question about like that used car

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like you know who was the previous owner how many kilometers does it have on it

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all of a sudden you could just be like bippity boppity sir i've got all those

00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.440
answers for you give me one minute i just have to stare at the car for a

00:20:12.320 --> 00:20:18.400
second hold on hold on yeah okay it's all loaded all right so here's what we got

00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:23.039
for you i mean i can see that again another professional application so i

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see this being a professional device initially

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much like hololens but that's consistent with google's google lens right google's

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ultimate aim was to bring information to you before you query it you don't even

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have to search it comes to you as you need it and that's what lens is if you

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looked at google i o last week they had demos where you're you're basically walking around

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chicago and you look at a historic building and yeah up comes the wikipedia page for

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it and it's an ar so it's got the nice depth to it

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that's that's exactly what you're talking about you look at an object of

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relevance to you and like that yeah but i guess yes i just

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you know i'm not much of a like information about this building buff

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like for me okay you walk by a restaurant yeah that kind of looks okay and then there's the four-star rating

00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:12.080
the reviews okay that would be useful but here's the problem it has to

00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:17.360
actually work like i was in london this week and i'm i'm i'm standing where i'm

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standing i got my little you know blue dot facing whatever direction it thinks

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i'm facing that seems to be just kind of like a

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yeah come on baby you know like i agree with you yeah it's

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not accurate at all um and i searched for food which i would think would bring

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up restaurants or restaurant or whatever i searched for something and it just

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it's just random like like i walked past

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an italian restaurant that looked fine and had a good rating

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when i like manually searched for it

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on my way to the italian restaurant that it brought up in the search result i'm

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just kind of sitting here going italian was right in the name

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and it was on my way like it was closer to me than the thing that you found like

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it just seems arbitrary sometimes and so it's it's frustrating for me to for

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google to come out and say we're going to have this amazing technology your

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phone is going to call your hair stylist and make an appointment for you you're

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going to put on these glasses and they're going to dynamically tell you everything you need to know about

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everything you're looking at when they don't even have the basic

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stuff working right now italian

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freaking restaurant oh there's a problem right there handle that

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i wanted pizza okay

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i actually didn't want pizza wanted anything that my wife would also

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eat that's what i wanted

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that is get full i did that for you oh thank you i did forgot ice but no i

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intentionally didn't put icing because when you have ice in your water bottle you drink it weird

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you contort your mouth so that the ice doesn't come out i just don't like the way your face looks when you do it i

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don't like warm water though it's not warm

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about it anymore he doesn't even know that obama's gonna be there ltx obama's

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not gonna be there uh no yeah no he could be no no

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unless it's like some other obama like if you go in the phone book and you look

00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:36.480
up obama like are there other obamas that's possible is that a common name i

00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:40.559
don't think so right yeah i don't think so barack is

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is that a common name no yeah of course during his

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presidency a lot of people say there's a bunch of like seven-year-olds named barack yeah and here

00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:54.559
that would explain why i keep encountering more and more linuses it's

00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:58.799
because like i inspired parents i don't think the

00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:02.480
plural of Linus is linuses i think when you have multiple Linus it's just Linus

00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:05.919
no i think we've no no no it would be like Linus eye or something no oh yeah

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:11.840
nexus or line eye would be like line eye nexus

00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:14.080
like like like penis is penis

00:28:11.840 --> 00:28:19.520
that's true you have a point there uh evga ditches cds for usb sticks this was

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:23.440
originally posted on the forum by vegetable stew and the original i love

00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:28.880
that guy's name by the way it's from yeah it's stu ha ha ha ha ha what um

00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:31.840
yeah well yeah okay stew like it that's his name his name is dude dang it a

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:37.279
non-tech how do i get rid of this thank you uh so this is actually something i asked

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:42.840
you i asked you as a noob i was like why are they giving discs

00:28:39.840 --> 00:28:46.720
when i don't i and everyone else doesn't

00:28:42.840 --> 00:28:49.200
have yeah drink it doesn't have a dvd

00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:53.200
player anymore and you told me it's because

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:56.960
it's way more expensive to give away flash drives

00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:01.760
and evga actually confirmed that even though evga is ditching dvds for their

00:29:00.159 --> 00:29:06.159
all the drivers and giving you an eight Gigabyte flash drive instead

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:10.320
they actually did admit that it's 20 times more expensive to give you a flash

00:29:08.320 --> 00:29:15.840
drive but they're still doing it so 20 times more expensive would be like

00:29:13.919 --> 00:29:21.120
because how much do i think i think a disc costs like on the order of like

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:24.880
three cents or something like that like i like basically it's probably

00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:28.480
costing them a few bucks though for each one with that said evga has a bit of an

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:33.840
advantage here compared to other motherboard makers because they don't

00:29:30.399 --> 00:29:36.399
really make any entry-level boards so

00:29:33.840 --> 00:29:40.960
every motherboard that they sell will have enough margin in it that they could

00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.080
probably afford to throw in a usb drive and there have been high-end boards

00:29:42.320 --> 00:29:47.440
before that came with usb drives yeah they're not the first to it that's

00:29:45.600 --> 00:29:53.840
freaking awesome though especially because flash like nand flash has gotten to the

00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:59.279
point where it's not any more cost effective to make like a a one gig usb

00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:02.559
drive than it is to do an eight gig usb drive like eight gigs is the size they

00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:07.039
start at so that's what evga is providing and what's cool about that is

00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:12.640
eight gigs is exactly the right size for you to be able to use it for um and it's

00:30:09.840 --> 00:30:16.399
uh install iso a dvd iso oh i thought you're gonna say two blu-rays

00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:21.520
no because it's not enough for that uh bluetooth is like four gigs no dvds four

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:25.600
gigs blu-rays dvds were like 700 megabytes no that's

00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:32.399
cds cds are 650 or 700 dvds are 4.7 and then

00:30:29.360 --> 00:30:34.240
blu-rays are like 40 and 80 like they go

00:30:32.399 --> 00:30:39.039
up they go up much higher like 20 40 80 or something like that when i used to be

00:30:36.320 --> 00:30:44.159
a scumbag torrented movies they were always about 700 megabytes

00:30:41.760 --> 00:30:49.600
yeah that's because they were 720p seriously downscaled so that scrubs like

00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:55.039
you yeah who were too cheap not only to buy movies but also to pay for more

00:30:51.919 --> 00:30:57.919
internet download definitely yep

00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:02.840
didn't go over their data limits so blu-rays are 25 and 50.

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:08.080
eight gigs okay yeah um well you can put some word

00:31:05.679 --> 00:31:11.760
documents on it how about that uh wait eight gigs

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:16.000
no you can put a dvd you can put an iso on it that's what i'm trying to say

00:31:13.600 --> 00:31:20.880
so they say the cost increase will not trickle down to the consumer which is of

00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.880
course nonsense

00:31:23.520 --> 00:31:29.200
i think all that means is they're not adjusting the pricing of their current

00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:33.360
generation of boards but that doesn't mean that when they consider the bomb

00:31:31.520 --> 00:31:36.480
costs the bill of materials for their next generation

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:39.279
that they won't consider that that's another two or

00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:44.559
three dollars this could have been two dollars cheaper this whole time

00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:50.240
um okay this was originally posted over on

00:31:47.679 --> 00:31:55.679
gizmodo um it was posted on the forum by pyrie

00:31:53.120 --> 00:32:01.840
pyrite pi pyriai i think and dozens of employees have quit google

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:05.200
in protest against a military project what is this project maven okay wait a

00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:10.399
second a dozen not dozens yeah sorry a dozen so

00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:14.640
far so project maven is a project that

00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:19.039
google's working on in collaboration really a project they called it project

00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:23.360
maven and it's a project it's an undertaking

00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.799
wow okay you do it do tell me more no no actually you have to do it because i'm

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:31.600
checking on notes on the youtube premium thing that you didn't put in here

00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:35.360
despite protests from employees why would an employee ever protest

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:41.600
google is charging ahead with the department of defense collaboration to produce machine learning software

00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.960
for american military drones project maven aims to speed up the

00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:48.640
analysis of drone footage by automatically classifying images of

00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:53.120
objects and people and now a dozen people google employees

00:32:51.679 --> 00:32:57.039
are resigning in protests over the company's continued involvement and this

00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:01.200
is in addition to about 4 000 employees who have voice concern and a petition

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:08.840
that was circulated internally yeah so basically project maven is a way

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:10.640
of using ai to identify targets in

00:33:08.840 --> 00:33:15.440
for and okay it doesn't say explicitly but the

00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:19.120
the assumption so this is all like allegedly but the assumption is that the

00:33:17.360 --> 00:33:23.840
technology is going to be used to identify targets for drone strikes

00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:28.080
is ultimately what people are mostly upset about uh google has emphasized

00:33:26.399 --> 00:33:32.080
though google claims it is only providing open source software to

00:33:29.919 --> 00:33:35.200
project maven which means the military would be able to still use the

00:33:33.360 --> 00:33:38.880
technology even if google didn't accept payment or offer technical assistant and

00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:44.480
they have emphasized that its ai is not being used to kill the technology is

00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:46.880
used to flag images for human review and

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:50.159
is intended to save lives and save people from having to do highly tedious

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:54.799
work and of course i mean you could see the the objections to this their mission

00:33:53.679 --> 00:34:00.399
statement from the beginning was don't be evil yeah but that's nowhere in their

00:33:57.840 --> 00:34:04.399
documentation anymore as far as i know but it's still baked into the company

00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:07.039
ethos and a lot of people who work there make it's

00:34:05.919 --> 00:34:12.960
possible that you worked there for a long time and that was the mission statement when you were hired for a

00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:16.079
large part of your career second part of it is that

00:34:15.040 --> 00:34:23.599
google it's been argued that google has is mandated to protect all of its users and

00:34:20.879 --> 00:34:26.320
they have a global user base so this is

00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.040
this project serves the interest of the us

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:33.679
and the weaponry that's developed from it could be used

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.679
to harm google users who are not in the us right so where does their

00:34:35.520 --> 00:34:41.679
responsibility lie this is great frontal on the uh in

00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.839
twitch chat deciding whether or not to kill someone equals highly tedious work

00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:54.240
dang so there are other american companies major tech companies including

00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:56.639
ibm and amazon that have refused to work

00:34:54.240 --> 00:34:58.960
with the u.s defense department um

00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:04.240
but the counter argument to that i don't think you read that correctly

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:09.119
sorry what's that in addition to the petition circulating inside google the title launched the

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:14.800
position sorry there was another petition that tried to get other companies like ibm and amazon and to

00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:18.560
work together to refuse to work with the u.s defense department so the counter

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.480
argument to that is like well don't you want

00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:25.119
the united don't you want america to you know

00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:28.240
keep up with you know other countries like you know

00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:34.000
it is it's like do you think that the engineers at baidu are quitting because

00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.359
they don't want to do defense contracts with the chinese government

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:41.280
do you think that's happening the engineers at yandex and russia do you

00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:44.800
want the us to be overpowered by other nations that that

00:35:43.359 --> 00:35:48.400
get this kind of work done from the private sector

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:52.640
well private sector i mean what do you is baidu private

00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:56.400
sector technically i don't know uh well that's the other thing what

00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.960
happens to you if you protest i'm not even going there so

00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:06.800
if it's going to be happening anyway then who do you want to hold this kind of

00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:06.800
technology

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.119
announced that it's hella trying to i could see why you wouldn't want to be

00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:17.599
the one working on it but you should probably understand that when you walk away there's another engineer is going

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.280
to work on it and if that engine and then if that injury's not at google that engine will

00:36:20.560 --> 00:36:25.440
be either from a different company in the us or another

00:36:23.839 --> 00:36:29.520
company in different country baidu apparently not state-owned as of this

00:36:27.520 --> 00:36:32.960
article from 2015 i don't know if it's uh i don't know if that's up to date but

00:36:31.359 --> 00:36:38.240
i was just curious oh that's not what i thought you meant explicitly but all

00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:42.800
right um all right so let's move on then

00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:45.760
to youtube complete dog's breakfast um

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:50.079
oh sorry excuse me uh youtube premium so the original article here is from the

00:36:47.359 --> 00:36:53.760
verge and basically so how much do you know about youtube red

00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:57.839
very little okay so right now

00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.839
um

00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:07.119
okay i'm just trying to i'm trying to remember what youtube music is oh yeah

00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:10.240
you're right crap what is youtube music

00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:12.000
oh google always does this i know it's

00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:18.560
so frustrating okay no no so that one's coming soon okay okay so google so okay

00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.880
so on the play store you can like get music

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.160
okay but i think

00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:31.920
ah trying to remember all the different like whatever let's just go with how it

00:37:29.520 --> 00:37:34.720
was up until now so google play music lets you stream music

00:37:33.839 --> 00:37:40.320
and like download music to your device okay it's like i forget it's like ten dollars

00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:47.280
a month or eight dollars a month or fifteen for the family plan but those are crazy so i have the family plan um

00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:52.560
and yeah i pay like 15 canadian or 16 canadian or something like that

00:37:49.359 --> 00:37:54.400
okay so then for a few us dollars more

00:37:52.560 --> 00:38:00.320
than google play music you can get youtube red which strips the ads

00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:03.200
out of youtube videos that is the like the google supplied the adsense supplied

00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:07.760
ads and and gives you access to google play

00:38:05.839 --> 00:38:12.640
music it also gives you additional benefits within the youtube app so the

00:38:09.839 --> 00:38:15.520
ability to play song videos for example with the screen off with the phone in

00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.800
your pocket is this how it works now because i thought before it was like if

00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:22.160
you bought google play music you just got youtube red

00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.520
and i think it was the other way around and now i know because i i got music and

00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:30.480
i was super stoked on that and then i found out that i wasn't in the that was not in canada

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:34.320
i was like ah this whole thing has been so messy okay let's just let's just

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:38.720
let's just do how it's gonna work now okay all right so so youtube red is gone

00:38:37.359 --> 00:38:43.359
apparently they were tired of being called red tube no kidding you idiot

00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:46.640
yeah i know i know right how could they have possibly red tube's been around

00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:50.160
since like 2007 or something like that no something like

00:38:48.160 --> 00:38:53.520
that well look at him covering covering him no because youtube itself came out

00:38:51.599 --> 00:39:01.040
in 2007 so redtube must have been no youtube was 2005. that's fine um okay so

00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:03.920
youtube red is being replaced sort of by

00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:06.720
youtube premium which gives you ad-free music

00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:11.839
the ability to listen in the background you're correct and downloads

00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:17.599
as well as ad-free video the ability to play in the background this is cool

00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:19.839
downloads on youtube videos so you will

00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:23.839
now be able to load up youtube videos on your phone before a flight or whatever

00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:26.800
not have to use one of those ripping tools when i want to rip something off

00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:31.040
um sweet i can finally get them in there

00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:37.040
i mean compensate the artist is that that what you mean anyway um also all

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.560
youtube originals so youtube red

00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:41.520
originals or whatever they were calling those are now just called youtube

00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:47.520
originals and then youtube music premium

00:39:45.040 --> 00:39:50.480
for just two dollars less so this is like a

00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:56.400
pretty terrible deal as far as i can tell just gives you ad-free music so other

00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.880
other videos will have ads and the ability to listen in the background and

00:39:57.839 --> 00:40:05.599
download music specifically and then how google play music figures

00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:09.119
into all this i can't remember yes right if you have a google play music

00:40:06.640 --> 00:40:13.760
subscription you get youtube music as part of that membership play music is

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:18.560
not going away yet but um it'll be hard play music what's that

00:40:20.720 --> 00:40:25.200
in other news youtube premium is finally coming to

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.920
canada so i plan to get it immediately because

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:32.960
i am so totally editors can rip off i am so

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:38.320
tired no it's nothing to do with that it's because youtube forces me to break

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:42.640
their own terms of service every day because what do you mean you are not

00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:49.680
allowed according to google's terms of service to watch your own ads or

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:51.760
interact with your own ads

00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:54.720
because it inflates your viewership numbers it's like being an amazon

00:40:53.200 --> 00:40:59.200
affiliate and sending getting your friends to buy the thing you're an affiliate for no that's fine no you

00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:03.599
can't do that you can't no

00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.480
i can't be like hey guys i here's my affiliate link to buy this t-shirt all

00:41:05.359 --> 00:41:10.560
my friends and family if you're gonna buy this t-shirt use my link you can't do that

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.280
oh oh i see what you mean okay well it's a little i think it's a little bit

00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:17.359
different from that because it's like actually like it's it's it's it amounts

00:41:15.680 --> 00:41:21.760
to it's like it's a holdover from the days of click fraud where written

00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:26.400
websites would have banners up on their sites and then they'd like

00:41:24.160 --> 00:41:30.240
just click on their own ads all day so that they could get a bunch of money but

00:41:28.160 --> 00:41:34.640
but no one ever actually looked at that so any time i watch a video like an

00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:39.599
unskipable video unskippable ad for example might show up and then

00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:43.280
i sit through it i have effectively fraudulently

00:41:41.359 --> 00:41:46.880
given an impression to that video don't they know the

00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.760
ip of the uploader but if they know that and no it's a little more complicated

00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:53.280
than that because i could be using a different device but we're talking when

00:41:51.520 --> 00:41:56.240
i'm logged in so i've been asking google for this for

00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.839
ages when i'm logged in don't serve an ad on

00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:06.800
my video but they cannot figure this out or

00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:11.920
they just don't care that's the second one is more likely one so finally i

00:42:09.680 --> 00:42:14.000
won't have to break google's terms of service

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:19.520
just by being a youtuber and that's wonderful

00:42:16.240 --> 00:42:19.520
that makes my heart fuzzy

00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:27.760
um they're like stop we all know you use

00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:27.760
adblocker no i don't

00:42:28.240 --> 00:42:32.560
um all right so what else what else do

00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:38.240
we have today do we have anything interesting oh oh oh yeah okay so for

00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:42.800
anyone who was sort of speculating that maybe ASUS really wanted to do the ares

00:42:41.680 --> 00:42:48.640
brand um

00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:51.520
no they did not they as of now

00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:56.400
now that uh now that uh GeForce partner program is officially dead erez is gone

00:42:54.800 --> 00:43:00.240
rog is back so that's good glad that's all behind

00:42:58.319 --> 00:43:03.200
you that's conclusive yeah

00:43:01.359 --> 00:43:07.599
do you think there's gonna are there any errors

00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:10.480
uh cards out there this could be like a larabee thing if we

00:43:09.040 --> 00:43:13.599
can get our hands on one that'd be cool i don't think so i mean if there's an

00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:17.040
employee out there who has one that'd be really cool to get our hands on that

00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.119
um all right according to wccf texas posted

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:25.920
by black gup on the forum we've got rumors of a gtx his name wasn't 70.

00:43:23.359 --> 00:43:30.240
black gupp no it's a up let's buck up oh oh buck up you need to buck up oh

00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:36.400
sorry i don't know black gup look

00:43:32.560 --> 00:43:38.839
i come from a home covered in black cup

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:43.280
i come from eight time zones away right now i landed

00:43:41.359 --> 00:43:46.480
back in this country like 24 hours ago

00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:53.680
the people who are still in that time zone feel so according to the leaks the gtx 1170

00:43:50.720 --> 00:44:00.880
will be powered by a 104 class GPU codenamed gt 104 what would t be

00:43:57.680 --> 00:44:03.440
so it's not volta what was it um

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.040
oh i don't remember what the rumored t code name was going to be it'll be

00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:13.040
approximately 400 millimeters square so that's a pretty big chip okay

00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:14.319
2688 cuda cores 256 bit ddr6 memory

00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:18.720
interface 8 to 16 gigs of gddr6 memory well that's

00:44:17.359 --> 00:44:22.720
good that it has an interface that matches the amount of or the the type of

00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:27.440
memory it's rumored to have so the rumor managed to get hopefully at least that

00:44:24.319 --> 00:44:29.440
much right uh clocks of 1.5 to 1.8

00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:32.880
gigahertz depending on boost um

00:44:31.359 --> 00:44:37.680
so this would put it in the same league as the existing gtx 1080 ti so once

00:44:36.720 --> 00:44:41.760
again if you invested

00:44:41.839 --> 00:44:49.599
infested because of crypto haha uh if you invested not invested if you plunked

00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:55.200
down the money for a top tier card a top-tier ti card you are once again

00:44:53.040 --> 00:45:00.400
going to have to wait two generations in order to get any kind of significant

00:44:57.359 --> 00:45:04.079
upgrade from NVIDIA so we've seen this a

00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.839
lot of times now where the gtx 680 ti

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:09.440
was the last time they uh was it the 680 ti

00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:15.839
yeah the wait gtx 16 no they never did a 680

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:20.880
ti so the gtx 680 was the top tier of that generation

00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:24.160
and then in the next gen there was a 770

00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:26.720
that was exactly the same thing and then

00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:32.480
no 780 maybe it's 700 series that i'm thinking of so 700 series

00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:36.640
yeah then you've got a 980 that didn't then the 980 ti didn't come till later

00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:41.200
that's right so 780 ti was very similar in performance to the gtx 980. so when

00:45:39.359 --> 00:45:46.960
the 900 series rolled around if you had a top-tier card there was basically no

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:49.599
upgrade for you until the 980 ti came or

00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:54.800
the um yeah the 980 ti came quite some time later then the 980 ti was actually

00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:58.240
quite similar to a 1070 or 1080 so there wasn't much of an upgrade there until

00:45:56.560 --> 00:46:01.839
the 1080 ti came quite a bit later so you actually have to kind of

00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:06.560
wait at least a half generation in order to get an upgrade if you bought the top

00:46:03.520 --> 00:46:08.560
tier card from last time around so

00:46:06.560 --> 00:46:11.760
that combined with the fact that the 10 series launched like when did the 10

00:46:10.319 --> 00:46:16.480
series launch so gtx 10 when did the 1080 ti launch

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:22.480
let's find out the ti yeah um so that was back in march of

00:46:19.839 --> 00:46:30.480
2017 so it's been a full year you will still have no upgrade path from that

00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:37.440
so the only people who will be upgrading are probably people who bought 1080s

00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.280
or before so that was way back in may

00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:42.960
2016. people who bought 1080s and who've been

00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:46.480
waiting for a significant upgrade at that same price tier

00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:50.560
and we don't actually don't even know anything about pricing because while the

00:46:48.240 --> 00:46:54.079
credit no there is one there is one tidbit about the pricing here oh okay

00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:59.040
it's going to cost more than it did last generation 500 bucks sure that's that's

00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:03.119
what is being guest apparently for the 1170 specifically

00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:08.480
all right and that's a super rumor that's just like whispers around the industry

00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:12.079
indicate yeah NVIDIA's been known to mislead

00:47:10.560 --> 00:47:15.359
people like i still remember there was a launch it might have been the 580 or

00:47:13.839 --> 00:47:20.240
something like that where they literally changed the pricing on us the day before

00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:22.720
and like no one knew their own partners by a lot or

00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:28.800
it was like a hundred dollars or something like that was pretty significant up or down um down yeah yeah

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:32.720
can't complain though right yeah that's old news though NVIDIA like surprising

00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:37.200
the industry with great pricing that's not a thing anymore uh sc2 mitch posted

00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:42.640
this one on the forum this was uh originally posted on inside games.biz

00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:46.480
and i gotta say this shouldn't surprise me but it does

00:47:45.359 --> 00:47:52.000
it shouldn't because it's been on the lan show before well whatever i probably skipped it

00:47:50.319 --> 00:47:57.920
because i was like oh that's boring so the ioc is to host an esports summit in

00:47:55.520 --> 00:48:00.480
whatever however you pronounce that lausanne

00:47:59.359 --> 00:48:03.760
lausanne in july you're supposed to be a french

00:48:02.720 --> 00:48:08.960
speaker oh is it french it's in switzerland

00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:13.200
all right so basically this is just to continue the organization's

00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:17.200
dialogue with the gaming industry it's just a one day meeting

00:48:15.839 --> 00:48:21.520
and in due course

00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:26.079
approach the stakeholders of the olympic movement again

00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:31.200
never gonna happen man esports will never be in the olympics and i argue

00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:32.400
that they don't belong in the olympics

00:48:31.200 --> 00:48:37.599
i'm not gonna disagree with you i'm not even gonna play devil's advocate here because i don't think it makes a ton of

00:48:35.359 --> 00:48:42.480
sense but with that said there is stuff in the olympics that i don't necessarily

00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.839
think belongs in the olympics sure

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:47.599
sure there's i mean here you know what let's bring up

00:48:46.240 --> 00:48:52.480
the full list the speed walking and stuff olympic i mean the stuff's hard

00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:55.520
but the point is that it's athletic the way i look at it is

00:48:54.720 --> 00:49:00.880
in athletics there's something you intend to do

00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:04.480
there's an action you want to carry out you see that action in your mind and

00:49:02.720 --> 00:49:08.000
then because your body has crappy tolerances even though you

00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:12.400
want to throw that ball into that particular spot you just

00:49:10.160 --> 00:49:16.319
can't do it but in a video game for the most part you can you want your units to

00:49:14.640 --> 00:49:20.319
move right there you click there and they move there so i think the fact that

00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:25.760
there's greater tolerances that you don't have much control over on your own body that's what really separates i mean

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:31.440
you could make the argument that moving the mouse very precisely is a pretty

00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:35.359
a pretty good analog for that sure but that's only a part of the game

00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:39.040
and not the whole game there are actually a lot fewer olympic

00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.920
events than i thought actually most of these aren't that stupid that's winter though no no i got both of them okay

00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:47.680
okay hand ball are you gonna put on the screen really handball handball is huge

00:49:46.319 --> 00:49:53.200
in europe man there's a bunch of people yelling at you right now huge

00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:58.160
pretty ba too all right well then fine so so is there

00:49:56.640 --> 00:50:02.000
is there anything here that we really think is pretty dumb

00:50:00.640 --> 00:50:07.520
football the guy's kicking the buzz and make any sense joking

00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:12.480
joking equestrian that's kind of weird

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:18.319
what is dressage a dressage it's like uh fancy walking on horses

00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:23.760
it's but again this is like the horse

00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.760
i guess their skill in training a horse

00:50:23.839 --> 00:50:28.480
and i'm sure there's skill as a rider but

00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.359
you're telling me that if your rider gets hurt that day and you still got the

00:50:30.240 --> 00:50:36.720
good horse you're not going to send someone else on top of that good horse and still maybe win

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:41.839
i don't know anything about this sport okay here's another angle that john

00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:45.119
martin here the writer of Techquickie told me when we discussed this all those

00:50:43.359 --> 00:50:49.920
months ago or maybe it was someone on the forum they basically said an

00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:52.160
interesting angle is the fact that

00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:54.960
video games are commercial products so you're going to go on to the olympics

00:50:53.599 --> 00:51:00.000
and you're going to broadcast something that blizzard owns or something for example so you think

00:50:58.319 --> 00:51:06.480
there's a potential like licensing issue here or just like the ioc

00:51:03.680 --> 00:51:09.359
wanting to be paid ultimately maybe

00:51:07.359 --> 00:51:13.119
someone wanting to get paid or at least it being free advertising right it's

00:51:11.680 --> 00:51:16.960
bizarre and then there's another quote here that says that they're not going to

00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:21.520
do anything they said killer games but the guy has a

00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:26.480
has an accent so but violent games and that's like half the games half the comp

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:31.200
like the competitive ones especially yeah like what what games are

00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:36.000
competitive that don't involve killing i mean i guess like dota is a lot better

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than call of duty okay yeah okay like cartoony or

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something but that's a fair point like you're not gonna want direct or something you're not gonna watch

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civilization six in the olympics yeah

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i mean all right

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they're games they're not sports i don't want to see them there oh man so

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they're like there's stuff that you could like shooting is shooting a sport

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then was it a game what

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why not like just shooting a target like it's

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super physical or like archery

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where's your argument that it's not well you okay games are in the mind you think

00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:21.040
games are in the mind they're in the mind chess is a quintessential game

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you you compute what you want to happen and the the action of carrying out that

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task yeah is a non-issue you just pick it up and put it there that's not the

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hard part of the game it's the computation that's the hard part of the game in sports it's the carrying out of

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:37.440
the task that's difficult everybody wants to get the ball across the line it's doing that is hard

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i would argue that i would argue that video games sit in between though i

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agree like i agree it's just a grey area i agree with that but you say it'll

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never happen i think they're way closer to the game end i'm sure twitch chat is

00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:55.280
hitting us up with some games that aren't uh that don't have killing okay

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rocket league i can't rocket league is just soccer

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yeah i can't imagine watching rocket league like in the olympics i

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just i like oh man i just i have a hard time like it's such

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a ridiculous concept i think the like

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these cars running around and like using their butts to hit a giant ball

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into a thing like i just you know what you're hitting on right now is the level

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of abstraction with video games compared to real sports because

00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:30.240
what happens everyone has a common experience when the olympics come on street fighter okay super uh smash

00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:34.880
there's another one that'd be great street fighter and smash okay okay the lights come on you've never watched pole

00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:39.359
vaulting in your life you've never watched the sport in your life but you're sitting there and you just

00:53:37.359 --> 00:53:43.040
instantly get it you can appreciate when someone does a good job you're like that

00:53:40.640 --> 00:53:46.079
was amazing yeah that will never happen with esports someone puts on a starcraft

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:50.800
2 match you don't know that they have all these battle cruises

00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:55.200
you're just like oh that guy has chips okay like it's too abstracted from a

00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:59.040
visceral feeling that we can all share and experience i agree with you i think

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it's far more likely that they'll just form make their own olympics i agree

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with blackjack they should have that and you know well we all know friends line

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yeah from close friends that you pay to hang out with you employees hey friends i've got

00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.839
those i'm out of here all right

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so uh i think that's pretty much it for the lan show today we will see you guys

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again next week same bat time same bat channel

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let's roll that no guarantee on the time don't talk i'm

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can sing on the intro all right fine never gonna turn around

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deserve you

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how weird is that guy's voice though

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yeah this guy was talking to me dude i gotta put this thing here put it that way yeah and that one and

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that one bye
