The WAN Show - PS4 slightly LESS underpowered, Amazon Drones are REAL! - Dec 4, 2015

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2016-05-06 · 16,335 words · ~81 min read
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0:01 Hello. Okay. Welcome to the WAN Show, guys. We
0:06 are a little late. We're No, we're right. Do they even
0:09 I was talking in the Twitch chat. We're right. We are now a top shelf wine.
0:12 Do they even want to hear why at this
0:15 point? Is it Is it just Is it Is it Are they just tired of my excuses?
0:19 I don't think we should bother anymore cuz like is it actually really any
0:22 different? How about just a short summary? Sure. We don't touch the computer from
0:28 week to week and yet it doesn't work when we sit back down in front of it.
0:32 Capture cards are a giant steaming pile of garbage.
0:36 Basically all of them as far as I can tell. And uh what was the other what was
0:41 the other other bit this week? Uh well yeah uh we Okay. Okay. I had to give
0:45 back the XLR audio interface that I had borrowed for the last couple of weeks to
0:50 find out if that would work with our external compressor and and so I had to
0:54 give that back. So I had to reconfigure that. But I knew that was coming. That part was actually fine. It was the part
0:59 that really bothers me is the part where I literally do not touch this entire
1:06 corner of the building for a week and I come back and it doesn't work.
1:10 The camera does get taken down every week. Yeah, but that's not the issue,
1:15 right? But you are unplugging things. It's not like it was just running for
1:18 the whole week. I didn't.
1:22 But it doesn't matter if you do. And actually, the camera did not get
1:25 unplugged this week. It wasn't here. What do you mean it wasn't here?
1:29 You said the camera wasn't You told me it wasn't set up. What camera? Well, no, it was it was
1:32 sitting here. Just like it didn't have a lens on it. Oh, yeah. But a lens does not affect the
1:37 connection between the SDI cable and the converter and the capture card.
1:41 So, like I don't understand. I I feel like we need to just simplify things.
1:46 Like uh I used to do a lot of Wii U streams using a media cards, which is
1:50 like a video capture off of something. Y and never had a single problem with any
1:54 of those streams. Yep. And yet here we are with a media
1:58 cards and other cards. We're trying to use Blackmagic ones and we still have them in the computer which
2:03 is probably causing problem. Yeah. No, I don't think that's causing the problem today.
2:06 Sure. That was that was definitely part of the issue. That was definitely part of the
2:10 issue, but nothing to do with the fact that our live gamer portable um all of a
2:14 sudden needs a bunch of audio delayed. Anyway, so let's get right into what
2:18 topics we have today. We got one of them. What?
2:21 We said one of them, didn't we? Uh no, we didn't even get to one of them.
2:25 No. All right, that's a classic.
2:29 Go for it. Amazon drone service is there's no other
2:33 notes other than that. So, there's probably some information about the Amazon drone service.
2:37 More details. Also, Radeon Fury X2 is on the way.
2:43 Something we kind of knew. Uh, Just Cause 3 runs like garbage on the
2:46 consoles, which we probably could have guessed. Yeah.
2:50 Even if we didn't already know. And VTEC
2:53 basically just I mean, not because they not because
2:56 they had any kind of a choice in the matter, but they admit that their tablet
3:01 was recording personal data and that they were storing it. And this was a toy tablet, right? Yes.
3:05 So, without going super deep into the topic, is it worse because it's for
3:09 kids? Yes. It is way worse. It is many, many, many
3:12 times worse because they are minors. I had to ask him because he's a parent.
3:16 I already had that opinion, but his matters more. I didn't think I was that obvious.
3:20 I think it's pretty obvious that it matters more if it's a No, you called me a parent.
3:33 Settle
3:52 first base.
3:57 All right, guys. So, uh Oh, everyone's
4:01 uh everyone's all everyone's all upset about my about my fantastic dad jokes.
4:07 I liked it. It was good. Especially because I was saying that I had to ask
4:11 that because you were a dad. So, the timing was good and the quality was
4:15 good. Haters going to hate. Yo. All right. So, this is this is about the least expected
4:21 use of Jeremy Clarkson's talents that I
4:24 could have possibly seen coming over over there at Amazon. But um
4:28 is it muted? Do you want it to be muted? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Muted is fine because
4:32 basically they just have him explain that Junior here needs some cleats or
4:37 something and then whatever. If only there were some way that Amazon could
4:40 send it to you. I wonder how much Puma paid for this product placement.
4:44 Uh cuz he says the name of the specific cleat literally like it felt like six
4:48 times in the video. So this is cool. So this is a V tall V tall drone which
4:53 means vertical takeoff and landing. Actual flight footage not simulated
4:58 apparently. And then what it does is because you can see it's kind of got a
5:01 weird shape to it here. It actually converts to auge it converts to a
5:05 forward flight craft. What the crap?
5:09 Just like that. So it has a range of I think they were figuring something to the tune of around 18 miles. It uses
5:14 sensors to sense things, you know, flight data like speed and whatever.
5:20 That that looks kind of simulated. And then basically it finds a suitable
5:23 landing point delivery zone. And I think
5:27 there's actually like a little like like print out tag you put in your yard.
5:31 Oh, okay. That it that it goes and finds. Then they actually show it landing right on
5:34 it. Now, I was one of those people who was
5:39 in the camp of this is pure this is pure
5:43 uh April Fool's joke. They are messing around with us. Um I I was of the
5:49 mindset that they were just messing with us when they originally announced that
5:52 they would deliver packages by drone. But it looks like they are actually
5:57 serious about this. uh they have done a fair bit of R&D presumably uh based on
6:03 what they're saying in the video about you know how the drones have sensors to
6:06 go around you know hot air balloons or whatever else. So they're working on it
6:10 and they they seem to be like for real about making this happened. Apparently
6:14 it is designed to safely get packages to
6:17 customers in 30 minutes or less making it actually faster for a small item. Um
6:23 Mr. Clarkson works in a little joke about how the dog who chewed up the shoe
6:27 is now getting a chew toy along with the new shoes.
6:31 Um, so as long as they are small, lightweight items in under 30 minutes,
6:36 there is no launch date. The drone in the video can fly for 15
6:40 miles. 15 miles. Sorry, I said 18 miles, I think. My bad. 15 miles.
6:44 Um, so that that means that not everyone's
6:48 really going to be able to get this. And I wonder how widespread this is actually
6:51 going to be considering the Amazon Fresh campaign. Is that still only in Seattle?
6:56 Amazon Fresh I thought they were in New York too.
6:59 They might be. I'm not sure. I I haven't looked this up. I was just thinking about that right now. Um Amazon seems to
7:04 do things but then not necessarily spread them out actually all that well.
7:08 Yeah, Amazon Fresh subsidiary company in Seattle, Washington. It revived the
7:13 business model of ordering groceries online and bippity boppity bippity
7:16 boppity product lines. uh selected parts of center city, Philadelphia,
7:21 Pennsylvania, New York City on October 17th, 2014. So yeah, it's a San
7:25 Francisco, San Diego. Still kind of taking some time to spread out. Yes, it's doing okay though.
7:29 Yeah, we're we're obviously this is not something where it's like, yes, this is
7:33 driving 18% of our annual revenue. Uh
7:36 yeah, nothing like that. But um
7:39 and and there's still problems just like there was last time where putting Prime
7:43 Air into service will this is a quote, putting Prime Air into service will take
7:46 some time, but we will deploy when we have the regulatory support needed to
7:51 realize our vision. That's huge. Yeah, it's going to take a while. And I
7:55 mean, this doesn't address a lot of the other issues as well. So the drones that
7:58 the drone they showed off there apparently flies at about 400 ft. So for
8:03 the um for the metric people it's about 130 m
8:07 uh which it's it's not very high.
8:11 No actually. So if if the whole thing that people are joking about online and you
8:16 know if someone jokes about it the hunting the drones thing
8:19 if if a thousand people joke about it online
8:22 one person's going to do it. One will do it. And that's kind of all it's going to
8:26 take is for one person to shoot like a net gun at a drone,
8:30 have it come down, peg some kid in the head, kill them, and then
8:34 I was just going to say the first one that falls is going to be really
8:38 interesting. Yep. Can Amazon just peg its way out of
8:42 this, you know, like here's $6 million. Sorry your kid's dead or whatever. Like
8:48 I don't know. Will they will they keep the program going at that point? How important is it
8:53 for people to get things in 30 minutes? Currently about airplanes like reg
8:57 regulatory maintenance issues where they're they're repairing the planes out
9:02 of the states because there's lower uh I
9:06 don't know what the right word for it is. Uh you don't have to be as careful
9:10 when you're doing maintenance when you do it outside of the states. So
9:13 seriously, airplane people like airlines. Yes, looser regulations.
9:18 That's what I was looking for. Uh there's lower amounts of regulations, looser regulations for repairing
9:22 airplanes. So they're doing it outside of the states. Uh they're already
9:26 sketchy about airplanes. Think about drones. Are they going to be doing maintenance checks on these things like
9:30 every trip or every couple trips? I
9:33 doubt it. Yeah, unless Amazon has like robots that are
9:37 going to do that, but then I don't know.
9:42 It's a really cool idea. People are saying that the the limit for drones is 400 feet and that's why. Yeah,
9:47 but that's not really the point. The point is that people will be bringing them down.
9:51 Yes. So yeah, I mean if the US changes the
9:55 regulations and allows Amazon to fly them higher, then that's that opens up a
10:00 whole other can of worms because someone in the chat said, "So I guess
10:04 we're all wondering if Amazon Prime Air is gonna take off."
10:12 Um, probably sounded horrible.
10:16 Sorry everyone. Um, so I there was one other comment
10:20 that I wanted to make about it. Uh, right. Yeah. One of the first one of
10:24 the top comments on the on the video was from someone saying like, "Oh, you know,
10:28 the the couriers must be must be really worried about this." To which I would
10:33 reply, I really don't think so. Amazon even now is positioning this and and
10:38 intelligently so is positioning this as a as a premium service.
10:43 Yeah. So, this is not like you need to have a mark. Like, if you
10:47 saw in the video, you need to have a little like drop the package here thing
10:50 in your yard. I don't know how many people are going to actually do that.
10:54 Well, no. I think you just you just like print it when you place your order and you chuck it there.
10:57 Oh, yeah. I don't think it's It looked like it was down in the grass. I don't think it's permanent.
11:01 It It looks I don't know in the video. Okay. But maybe they like did a heavy
11:06 one so that it wouldn't like get blown away. It would probably look better.
11:09 Yet yet another concern. It ends up in your neighbor's yard. and
11:12 they're like, "Nope, my property now." Um,
11:16 what? Yeah. What happens when it screws up a delivery? Yeah. So, so, okay, there's a lot of
11:22 concerns. Okay. So, A, it's expensive. B, this is going to be for lightweight
11:26 items only, small orders only. I'm pretty sure
11:29 they were doing cleats. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that UPS is not
11:34 worried at this point about, you know, all the people ordering like half the I
11:38 I'm just trying to think what percentage of the stuff we order off of Amazon
11:42 would fit in a little drone like that. Us? Not much.
11:45 Yeah, not not much. It's like if you order a computer case, I don't think
11:48 there's going to be the like the jumbo drone. With that said, for the like books and stuff, if you can
11:52 carry cleats, you might be able to carry a book or two. And Zeppelin technology is coming back.
11:57 That's awesome. Zeppelin are coming back, my friend. So
12:01 if they can get the Zeppelin drone going, as long as they don't make the
12:05 like a crane lower out of it and drop your package off like crane lowers out
12:09 and then it just like tilts up and just slides off. Yeah. I mean, okay. As long as they
12:12 don't make the zeppelins out of hydrogen or lead, then we're in really good
12:16 shape. Yeah. There you go.
12:19 All right. Uh let's just see if there's anything else to really say about it.
12:22 Probably Probably not. I don't know. We've talked about this thing like three times. Almost nothing's
12:26 changed except there's a video now. Well, the smart the the video changes a
12:31 lot for me because seeing seeing such an elegant design for a V tall plane um
12:37 Oh, the drone the drone itself is super cool. Makes a big difference to me because
12:40 when they originally did the April Fool's joke, they were using a
12:43 quadcopter drone or or a six copter drone if I recall correctly. And that's
12:48 like some of the stuff out of China, right? where we've seen like, you know,
12:51 early attempts to it's all like these six copter like
12:56 just total like disaster over long
12:59 distances designs whereas yeah if you can go all plane all plane
13:05 uh you know forward flying on it then it
13:08 might actually work. Very very cool. I want to know what prevents people from
13:13 capturing them when they land in their yard. Like
13:16 I'm sure they have sensors, cameras, whatever.
13:20 Yeah, I I'm I'm fairly sure that I could order something to anyone's address for
13:25 one thing. I could put on a ski mask or whatever and like capture the drone when
13:30 it lands, put it in a lead box and you know take it away to I don't know like
13:35 I'm sure I'm someone's if something is valuable someone will come up with a way
13:39 to steal it. Yeah. Period. Someone will probably get one.
13:43 Yeah. or it'll land and drop off its thing and then
13:48 and then not really be able to leave. Like I don't know, something's going to happen.
13:52 I guess it's funny. You have people are worried about like automation and
13:56 rightfully so. But uh I mean that creates a new job, right? The guy whose
14:00 job it is to get in his car and drive to drive to the customer's house be like,
14:04 "Hey, yeah, sorry. The drone's in the backyard. Can I just
14:07 Here's a here's a here's a gift card. I'm going to go get that.
14:12 Thanks for that. Um, so that was posted on the forum by
14:18 uh, Pixel Density. Thank you for that. Uh, next article today posted by PCBond
14:23 on the forum. YouTube Beyond seeks to compete with Netflix. Original
14:28 article here is from rstechnica.co.uk.
14:32 And I think YouTube's intentions of, you
14:36 know, getting movie deals and TV show deals, um, and wanting more more
14:41 professionally made premium content is not exactly new. But what is new is that
14:47 there's some more details about them being perhaps a little bit more serious
14:51 about it than last time around. So, the Wall Street Journal reported that
14:54 YouTube is looking to bolster YouTube Red specifically with TV shows and
14:59 movies because YouTube Premium or whatever they called it before, you
15:03 could rent movies on YouTube before. That's not new. And you've been able to watch like UFC
15:07 fights and Yep. But so, but but that was pay-per-view
15:10 and rentals. Yeah. Whereas this would be a like basically a direct shot across
15:14 the bow of Netflix by saying, "Okay, no, we want to have a monthly subscription
15:19 that also includes TV shows and movies." And if they pull this off, I mean,
15:24 YouTube Red effectively becomes your Spotify,
15:28 your Netflix, and your adree YouTube.
15:32 Like, the adast free YouTube for 10 bucks a month is
15:35 already a compelling enough value that I'm probably going to do it. And then you get music, and you might
15:39 get movies as well. And you might get movies and and TV shows. And TV shows
15:43 and TV shows. I mean, ad free adree YouTube
15:47 from a purely I need my kids to shut up for half an hour while I get a little
15:51 bit more sleep in the morning is already enough for me to spend the $10 a month
15:55 on it. Because let me tell you, a one-year-old is super interested in, you
16:00 know, A is for Apple. A a apple. And
16:03 then when some ad for like bor skin
16:07 cream comes on, she starts she starts
16:10 mashing at it. She starts throwing it. She starts making noise. I'm like, "No,
16:16 I'm still sleeping. A is for Apple, please."
16:23 And and snoozing in the morning when you get woken up every literally every three
16:27 and a half minutes when the ad comes on. And you know, it's amazing how much the
16:32 way that YouTube has monetized kids content has changed in the last two
16:36 years. Because when my son was one and I
16:39 wanted to sleep in in the morning, like kids TV 123 had almost no ads on it.
16:43 Like one out of every 30 videos that played was going to be monetized. Now
16:47 it's like every single one.
16:51 Well, it's a huge percentage of YouTube at this point. Yep. Yeah. But I just I thought that
16:56 the, you know, kids advertising kids advertising laws were a little
17:01 complicated, which isn't to Yeah. Which
17:05 then again, I guess, you know, TV does it too.
17:08 Yeah, TV does it too. Yeah, but there's like rules depending on the country.
17:11 Like in Canada, this is interesting. I have no idea about any of this.
17:14 Yeah, in Canada a commercial can't start with, "Hey kids, do you want to buy the
17:19 new Wild, wacky amazing adventure pack?"
17:23 It has to be like, "Hey parents, do you
17:26 want to buy for your kids the Wild Wacky Amazing Action Pack? Look at how amazing
17:30 this thing is." Yeah. So, it has it's the voice that it's
17:35 speaking. It has to address a different audience. Um, but I guess that leads us
17:39 that actually leads us pretty well into this post by Z Mule on the forum. The
17:43 original article here is Kit Guru and VTEC. VTEC got
17:48 Oh jeez. Nailed son.
17:51 So, if you you guys do you guys know VTEC? Like I only really know them from
17:56 like clear plastic uh cordless, you know, phones.
18:00 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back when we had a landline. Yeah. A lot of people have those as
18:04 landlines. At least at least here anyway. Like I'm pretty sure like future shop in the
18:08 source. You walked in, you wanted a cordless phone, you walked up and
18:11 you wanted and you wanted a relatively cheap one. 900 megahertz. Yeah.
18:16 2.4 GHz. So remember how they wrote the V? Like
18:20 there's tons of these. Yeah. So So basically they admit their
18:24 toy hack affected 6.4
18:28 million children. And this is this is great their statement about it. So I'll
18:32 give you a bit more details after but regrettably our database was not as
18:37 secure as it should have been.
18:45 So in a nutshell um on the 14th of November it's learning lodge app store
18:49 was broken into giving a hacker access to the customer database and kid connect
18:54 services. So what's that the worst thing about this is that
18:58 servers. Yeah. Um so this hack actually allowed
19:04 them to get access not only to just like
19:08 uh you know uh login and login and password but they actually were able to
19:13 figure out the exact uh the exact
19:16 accounts that they were tied to giving them access to way more personal
19:20 information than just that. And they had a bunch of other stuff in their data in
19:24 their uh in their system, including the hackers were able to access more than
19:28 190 gigs of photos and audio logs off of
19:33 these devices that can then be traced back to usernames and account details,
19:37 which makes the security threat much more worrisome, especially considering
19:41 this is a childfriendly marketed device. The Into Tab Max, our
19:48 fastest tablet featuring Vsex VSX. Whoops. No, it doesn't have that on it.
19:53 VTEC selected Android apps and games.
19:59 That's really sketchy. I'm not a huge fan of it. Also, um, compromised other
20:04 sites as well. One of them I can't even really say. Lumibo XRevs.
20:10 I don't know. Probably said that super wrong. vmilelink.com. Sleepy Bear
20:13 Lullaby Time, which is the greatest name for a website ever.
20:17 Yeah, I kind of want to buy that site now. It reminds me of Channel Super Fun.
20:22 Sleepy Bear Lullaby Time.com.
20:25 So great. Anyways, so these are all VTEC uh owned entities.
20:30 Yeah. So I guess uh I guess I don't know. What is
20:34 there to really say? By the way, Zil posted this on the forum. Thanks for that. What is there to really say other
20:39 than, you know, lock up your lock up your kids and keep them away from all
20:43 internet? Hide your hide your what? It's hide your kids. Hide your kids.
20:47 Lock up your kids. Lock up your daughters. That's the Oh,
20:50 yeah. I thought you were going for internet meme. No, no, no, no.
20:53 Hide your kids. Hide your wife. Yeah, cuz they hacking everybody out here.
20:58 Yeah. Nothing. Nothing's safe. Eh,
21:01 not really. I think I own VTEC stuff.
21:04 Nothing. Nothing that collects any personal information. It's like I don't because the only thing I ever
21:08 knew that they made were like relatively cheap phones.
21:12 That's the only reason why I don't know. Yeah. No, I'm pretty sure they make lots of kids stuff cuz I have like this uh I
21:17 have like this goofy um it's got like a keyboard on it and it's got like just
21:21 kind of games like fill in the letter blank. Okay. And there's like a there's like a happy
21:26 bear that asks you to fill in the letter, create a letter bridge.
21:29 Uh yeah. No, not a sleeping bear. I love that website name. Um,
21:34 sleepy bear by time. This is kind of a big deal. Posted by
21:39 Commission. I don't know how to pronounce that, but uh on the forum. So,
21:43 this is from geek.com. Sony unlocks the PlayStation 4's seventh
21:49 processing core for developers. So, in a
21:52 nutshell, this is something Microsoft already did a little while back um in
21:57 order to get a little more competitive with the PlayStation 4 is the the AMD
22:02 custom processor that they're actually both using, although different slightly
22:06 slightly different versions of it, but the the actual CPU cores themselves,
22:10 they're both using an 8 core APU of sorts. And uh so the Xbone was reserving
22:16 two of its cores for things like uh connect, say, for example. Um,
22:22 so Microsoft kind of went, "Oh, shoot. We're kind of losing the performance war." Because Microsoft went with a
22:26 slightly slower tuned version. So they unlocked a seventh core which means that
22:31 in games that need to leverage that extra horsepower. You can't access some
22:37 background processes such as menus and and connect say such as sorry excuse me
22:42 menus uh such as connect which is good which is which is which is fine because
22:47 if the game wasn't going to leverage connect at all anyway then it can use the processing power
22:51 that would have been locked and unused. Yes. Um, and with, you know, if you're
22:55 making, you know, Happy Dance Party Time X or whatever game,
22:59 Happy Bear, Sleepy Time. Yeah. Then you you frankly don't need the seven cores anyway. So that that
23:03 seems like a pretty good compromise to me. So place uh so Sony has now I think
23:08 we're Yeah. So this was back in January that Microsoft did it. So almost a year
23:12 later, they have now done the same thing, allowing
23:16 the PlayStation 4 to basically get as close to its potential maximum as it
23:20 can, which is going to be brutal for Xbox One because they already did this and like
23:25 we're up still losing to PlayStation. So now PlayStation will be even more ahead.
23:30 Yeah. with I guess the um the the the
23:33 main this the discussion point here because that news in and of itself is
23:38 not actually terribly exciting. The consoles this generation are
23:41 underpowered. Yeah. Whoopde freaking do. Here's what I want to know and I want to
23:46 hear from you guys. We're going to straw pull this up in here. Nice. I'm excited. I like straw holes.
23:51 If you think back to Microsoft's Xbox One launch event, their whole thing
23:56 the server thing. Is that what you're talking about? No, I'm not going to talk about that.
24:00 That's that's a whole other ball of wax. Still drives me insane. That might not that might just never see
24:03 the light of day. I don't think so. Um, so did
24:07 we're going to use cloud servers to render things for your thing and it's
24:11 going to make it easier and better and faster and that'll never happen.
24:16 All right. Uh, hold on. I'm just going to create I'm going to create the um
24:20 It's like skiing in World of Warcraft. How many times have they said they were going to put skiing in the game? Nope.
24:26 Have they? Yeah. It was on the is on the back of the box for Wrath of Lich King.
24:30 Excellent. All right. Well, at any rate, there's the straw pull. Um,
24:36 random facts that don't matter. There you go. I did not know that. So, if you think
24:40 back to the you guys, I didn't even ask the question. I haven't clarified yet.
24:46 Well, keep keep the tab open so you can fix it in case you change your mind. So,
24:50 if you think back to the Xbox One launch event, Microsoft's whole spiel was that
24:54 the Xbox One is not a game console. It
24:59 is like your family living room hub. It
25:03 is your entertainment hub. It is your it you watch TV on it. You, you know, wave
25:08 at it and you're like, "Hey, Xbox. Wow. Wake up and let's play some games." Or,
25:13 "Oh, well, not just games. Maybe we're going to look at our photos
25:18 or access our Sky Drive or I guess they still called it Sky Drive
25:22 at that point. I don't know. Anyway, the point is it was supposed to be more than
25:25 just a game console, a game machine, but
25:29 not a PC. It wasn't a PC. Make it an entertainment system. Yeah. They didn't know what the hell it
25:33 was. So, did they learn their lesson? Is that
25:38 what we're figuring out here now that Microsoft and Sony have both kind of
25:43 gone, "Oh people don't really care other than like their Netflix app. They
25:50 they don't really care about doing anything on this other than playing
25:53 video games." I don't think they have. It turns out a game console is just a
25:57 console. Or are they going to come back with the Xbox 2 and the PlayStation 5?
26:03 And are they gonna be like, "If they call it the two, I'm gonna I'm gonna
26:06 like crap a brick." Okay. If they call it the Xbox,
26:11 that would be so horrible. Um, so are they going to come back with
26:14 that and go, "Yeah, we added way more power this time for way better gaming
26:19 and also we cordined off a bit of it again
26:23 for like we're going to still try and do that other stuff again." So, I want to
26:26 know I want to know from you guys. So, let's let's head over to my screen. Let's have a look at straw poll results.
26:30 We've got a whopping 58% of you, most of whom didn't even wait for me to explain
26:34 the question, saying no, they did not learn their lesson.
26:38 A 31% of you are voting for turnip the
26:41 way you should, throwing away your votes. I love the timing of our whole
26:45 vote for turnup thing and then Donald Trump running for president.
26:50 Every time I wear that shirt,
26:53 every time I wear that shirt, people are like, "Ah, it's a Donald Trump joke
26:58 because you might as well just vote for a turnip." and it kind of looks like it.
27:02 Um, and then 11% of you go, "Yes, they're
27:08 going to treat a game console like a game console next time."
27:12 I don't think so. What do you Okay. Well, I was about to ask what you think, but I guess way to
27:16 interrupt me. Whoa. You better this whole stream. There's
27:21 been I hate that you're interrupting multiple stories of stream. I'm like,
27:25 okay. Anyways, I don't think that they have.
27:29 Uh, reasons for why I don't think that they have are largely based in the past.
27:33 I know things have changed, but still, um, this was the first time that they've
27:36 made money by selling their console. Mhm. So, I feel like
27:40 not much. I know, but still. Before they were losing, now they're making some. That's
27:43 actually a pretty significant difference when you're selling that much volume. So, you're saying we're still going to
27:47 get underpowered consoles because they got used to the idea of making money
27:51 selling the console. I get it. Before it was like accessories and
27:54 whatever and we'll make it and it'll be awesome. Now it's like experience and we
27:58 want to make more money because it's more premium or not really.
28:02 And $160 accessories. Yeah. Yeah, that too. Elite controller.
28:06 Yeah. Um so I don't really think so. And
28:10 this honestly should have been in there from the start even if it was um still
28:16 aimed to not be as gamy of a game console as it is,
28:20 right? Um because why not? Yeah. Why force a developer?
28:24 Yeah. So, I don't think that actually has anything to do about them learning
28:29 that it should be just a game console. I think that has them has more to do with
28:33 that should have just been a thing. Why lock it off? That's just stupid. I will explain why. And actually, you
28:39 know what? Because they're trying to force people to use the thing. I was going to say, no, it's it's deeper
28:43 than that. Okay. I was going to say that I was going to disagree with you. I was gonna say that
28:47 I think they learned their lesson and I think they're gonna come back focused on
28:51 gaming and gamers, but I actually realized as you were
28:56 talking that I'm with you, but for a slightly different reason. Okay. because I think they are still
29:02 going to try to force the game developers to use the gimmick and
29:06 they're still going to try and create the gimmick because at the end of the day 900p versus 720p is something that
29:14 the PC audience cares about but that the console audience is frankly many of them
29:21 not that interested in. Whereas when you create a marketing video, look at how
29:26 many Wii still fun. Look at how many Wii Nintendo sold from
29:31 showing people waggling sticks around. Honestly though, that was legitimately
29:34 fun. And the Connect isn't. But that's what the marketing that's
29:38 that's the marketing engine. That's why they're going to keep forcing game
29:41 they're going to come up with a gimmick. Yeah. Yeah. And they're going to force game devs to
29:45 use the gimmick and they're going to they're going to they're going to punish
29:48 game devs who don't use the gimmick. And they're going to do it again and again and again because that's visually
29:52 interesting. Whereas 300 FPS at 4K,
29:58 well, actually 4K they might be able to sell, but but not for a long time
30:01 because 4K TVs are only now just barely approaching
30:05 affordability. Okay, first off, I am a Nintendo fanboy, so
30:09 just going to get that like fairly across the board. We know. Um
30:12 even though they're despicable in so many ways, they're pretty bad, but it's okay. It's
30:16 okay. It's fine. Zelda's coming out soon. Yoshi's adorable. I have the woolly one,
30:20 the little toy, because I bought Yoshi's Woolly World, which is just the best
30:24 game. It's so much fun. If you complete a level with 100%, you get another
30:30 Yoshi, and he comes in like you can get like a cow Yoshi or like a forest Yoshi,
30:33 and they're hilarious, and they're super cute. Anyways, moving forward. With the
30:39 Wii, when they make some crazy gimmick thing, you can just ignore it. The
30:44 developer can just ignore it. With the Gamepad thing, you don't have to use it. Unless the developer is Nintendo and
30:48 they're making Twilight Princess and then they're going to do some stupid crap. Yeah, sure. But
30:53 I had to buy a classic controller just to play that stupid game.
30:57 Yes. Yes. Carry on though. But they can. They don't force people to
31:00 use their gimmicky things. Like you can just turn the controller sideways
31:04 turning into a more retro style controller. Use none of the motion stuff. The least ergonomic retro controller
31:08 ever. Pretty rough, but still use none of the motion stuff and
31:12 put a condom on the end. You don't have to. You can take that
31:16 off. You can go rock. But that's not safe. It's That's true.
31:20 Bearback is not the kind of we use that we To be fair though, that's the only way I
31:25 use my controllers. Because you trust yourself not to throw
31:29 them at your TV. I mean, I remember.
31:33 Okay, this is Okay. Sorry. Do Do you still have your train of thought? Will
31:36 you be able to come back to it? Because I can go for it. Okay. Okay. So,
31:41 I was sitting at work. Okay. I was at my desk. Uh, so I was working at NCIX back
31:46 when the Wii came out. So I was sitting at my desk and I had gotten the Wii for
31:50 myself for Christmas for my family, but it was for me. So I had gotten the Wii
31:55 for myself for Christmas and I we my
31:58 like uh my my in-laws and my now wife then girlfriend and I had spent like the
32:03 entire holiday season bowling and like playing tennis with each other.
32:07 And it was great. So, I read I start reading
32:11 the articles about people breaking their TVs, flinging weotes into them,
32:16 and I'm at I'm at my my in-laws house and I'm talking to my now girl then
32:21 girlfriend, now wife, I don't now have a girlfriend. Um, and I'm like, what kind
32:27 of flipping idiot? Oh, no. Throws a Weimo at the TV.
32:34 So, she kind of goes ashen, right?
32:38 And like she's just just like she kind of changes the subject and I'm like
32:42 meanwhile I want to talk about this forever. I'm like you got to be freaking
32:45 kidding me. Like if you're that sweaty
32:48 take a take a break, okay?
32:51 Stop flinging your arms around. Just take a breather, okay? The Wii even
32:55 interrupts you every like 20 minutes or whatever. Go outside.
32:58 It's like, yeah, hey, you know, everyone just stop playing Wii Sports for 10
33:01 minutes. Okay. So later on I'm talking to her and she's like, "So yeah, my dad
33:07 like threw the Wii remote today." He was in the room when I'm talking about this.
33:11 She's like, "Yeah, my dad threw the Wii remote at the TV today. He almost broke it."
33:15 And I was just like, "What? That is so brutal." I I thought you were
33:19 talking about the like gel sleeve that No, they didn't exist yet.
33:22 Oh, this was in the early days. I'm like OG wee.
33:26 Yeah. No, no, I know. I actually I got That was what I was talking about. Yeah,
33:29 that was what I was talking about when I talked about the Wii condom. But I got one I was super lucky. You
33:33 remember how the stock was super bad? Yeah. You couldn't find them anywhere. I camped out twice.
33:37 I didn't camp out at all. I walked into my local Best Buy and like some employee
33:42 that didn't know that they were backstocked or whatever just put one on the shelf and I was like, "Uh, okay."
33:47 Picked it up and bought it. The person at the till was like, "What?" I was
33:51 like, "Yep, cool." Just walked out and got one. I think it was probably someone
33:55 else's order. So after I realized that, I felt kind of bad, but I was like, it's
33:59 on the shelf, so I didn't felt kind of bad all the way to the
34:02 bank. Oh, well, the it was kind of expensive
34:05 at the time. Well, yeah. What was it like $400? I don't remember, but I remember like I
34:10 had saved up for for it for a bit and I think my mom like helped contribute because she wanted the the fitness
34:15 deputy pack. I ended up with four of them before Christmas.
34:18 Yeah. Well, my wife my wife and I camped twice. Okay. And so my boss, the owner
34:23 of NCIX, needed one. So that got a hefty markup.
34:28 Yeah. Um my other boss, uh who was actually he
34:32 actually visited our studio the other day. He's like, uh he I would consider
34:35 him a friend, not just like a former boss. Um
34:39 so my other boss got one. He got a less hefty, but definitely, you know, there
34:44 well they're going for this much on eBay, so you know,
34:47 relatively close to that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I actually made so much selling a
34:52 couple of them that mine were effectively like a couple hundred bucks
34:55 for two. There you go. Yeah.
34:58 And I bought some Weimotes. So, uh, so yeah, that that worked out pretty well
35:02 for me. With that said, I don't have the kind of time to do stuff like that. Although, I have exciting news. When are
35:08 you seeing Star Wars? Uh, I'm waiting. I want to go with
35:11 Brandon because he's good to talk to movies about afterwards and stuff. So, I
35:15 don't actually have a ticket yet because he doesn't have a ticket yet. So, I This
35:18 is a major This is a big shout out. This is a huge massive like
35:22 Wait, do you have opening day tickets? Well, not quite. Okay.
35:26 But this is a massive shout out to Anthony over at NCX who thanks to I'm
35:32 not going to say how he got them, but it's something to do with like a
35:36 purchase that he made recently and like an owners club website that probably no
35:41 one will ever visit ever. There's a special non-public screening at 9:00 am
35:47 on the Saturday. Wow. 9:00 am the day after it launches.
35:52 So, he has two tickets and he was kind
35:55 of shopping them around like and Jack was like, "Yeah, I'm going with, you
35:59 know, someone else and blah blah blah and like and he and and I was like and
36:04 then he was like, "Oh, well, I don't know, Lionus. Do you want to come? Do you have tickets yet?" I'm like,
36:07 actually, no, because I have children and so going to see like a late night
36:11 screening is not always the easiest thing for me and stuff like that. So, I was I was planning I was literally
36:16 planning to spend three weeks with my eyes closed and my fingers in my ears
36:21 until I was going to be able to see it. Nope, I am seeing it 9:00 a.m. So, so Anthony
36:26 and I have a master plan to show up at like 7:30. It's first come, first
36:30 served. So, we have a master plan to show up at like 7:30 in the morning uh
36:34 at the theater and it's going to be freaking awesome and I'm going to see it on time pretty much for the first
36:38 first come first serve and you're showing up at 7:30 for 9:00 a.m.
36:42 But remember, this is not a public screening probably. No one knows about it. There
36:46 wasn't even an email newsletter. Nothing. If you happen to sign into like the owner's portal.
36:50 Wow. That's unlikely. Yeah. So, I'm expecting to be sitting
36:55 like dead theater center. Wow.
36:58 For Star Wars the day after launch. I'm super super excited.
37:01 I'm assuming Brandon is going to be waiting a little while because I think
37:05 he wants really good seats, too. Yeah. So, I'm probably going to be waiting a
37:10 while. All I can say is it better not disappoint because the last movie that I
37:14 like freaked out and saw right away was The Hobbit Part One. Have you heard about the Darth Jar Jar
37:18 Binks? I have. I love it. It's actually pretty good.
37:22 I actually love it. If you haven't seen the conspiracy theory that
37:25 it's pretty solid that Jar Jar is actually the Sith master
37:30 orchestrating everything behind the scenes, uh, check it out. It was a great
37:34 post on Reddit. It's really good. It's really good. There's like it's it
37:37 goes all kind of like, well, hold on. Yeah. Yeah.
37:41 What if Jar Jar was all like like drunken kung fu master kind of thing
37:45 like when he's like jumping around going a missile clumsy boom knocking out drone
37:50 droids and killing them all over the place.
37:53 What if it's all an act? And then he's like inexplicably in the second movie,
37:58 he's like a member of the Senate. Yeah. Or something like what?
38:02 Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. It actually like he must have been using mind control.
38:06 I still don't That's a huge part of it. That's a huge part of it. Yeah. And they have clips where he's
38:10 like doing the handwavy thing all the time. Super interesting.
38:14 I don't know. It's It's ridiculous and it's Yeah. But it's fun and it makes you not
38:20 hate so much those series of movies. If you go back and I I haven't done it
38:25 yet, but if you rewatch with that in mind, I plan to re I'm going to reread the
38:29 whole spiel because it's like a couple pages long. Yeah. I'm going to reread the whole spiel. I'm
38:32 going to watch Phantom Menace again thinking Jar Jar is a mastermind
38:37 and trying to mind control and pretend that he's crappy when he's not.
38:40 Yeah. And he got he got kicked out of the underground city. We know this. He caused all kinds of problems. Stupid
38:45 viewer. We assumed that, you know, he
38:49 knocked over the, you know, prince's daffodil plant or whatever, but, you
38:53 know, daffodils would be pretty valuable underwater. Oh,
38:56 yeah. Wow. It' probably be a rare rare commodity. Yeah. Probably imported imported
39:01 daffodils. So, so you know, was George Lucas
39:05 planning, and this is the this is the theory. Was George Lucas planning a a
39:08 Luke I am your father moment for the end of Attack of the Clones?
39:13 No, it was me the whole time. that never happened because he bailed. Um, and
39:17 obviously not, but yeah, it's fun. Anyways,
39:21 it's it's really fun. Yeah. Speaking of things that are fun,
39:25 oh, Scott, our good buddy over at
39:30 AMD and not Tech Report.
39:34 Didn't see that one coming. Did not see that one coming. Is no
39:37 longer is no longer going. I wonder if we'll get cards on time now.
39:41 Maybe this is a good thing. No, he's not in that role.
39:45 Oh, yeah. Sorry. Um, so, so I I actually
39:49 I've spoken on the phone with Scott since the announcement and I don't know
39:54 how much of what was said was public knowledge versus what wasn't.
39:58 So, I will give a summary of what's in in his blog post and and not much more,
40:04 but I'm gonna I'm going to be connecting with him uh at CES and I'll probably
40:08 talk in some more depth. But, um, just for those of you who don't know, I
40:11 respect Scott a lot. He's super smart. He's been doing this whole tech
40:16 journalism thing. He's he's just such a respectable guy. He's been doing this
40:19 for over 15 years. And um you know what
40:23 we actually like we have uh we have a partnership with Tech Report on a couple
40:27 things like we've worked together on a couple things in the past. Y
40:30 um and this just he kind of like I I
40:35 sent him a tweet that was like, you know, we we can't bleep things on Wan
40:38 show, so I'm not going to use the exact words that I did, but it was just
40:42 basically like what the and you can kind of fill in the blanks for yourself. And
40:46 yeah, like seriously. Um and he kind of
40:50 sends back the message. He's like, "Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, dude. I
40:54 super meant to tell you, but this just like happened really fast." And you
40:59 know, AMD hosted an event um some months ago.
41:03 No, no, some some months ago the phone call happened. But then what happened
41:08 really suddenly was the deal got inked and AMD had an event that they did
41:12 earlier this week where they announced actually a bunch of really cool stuff. We'll talk about that a bit more later,
41:16 some Zen architecture stuff. Um and they were like, well, you're going
41:21 to be at this event with an AMD badge on, so that's tomorrow. So, I guess up
41:26 goes a blog post at 10:43 p.m. on December the 2nd.
41:31 Oh my goodness. Okay, that's pretty aggressive. So, that's what happened. And um so,
41:36 pretty much he's going to be working at AMD to help implement the frame
41:41 timebased testing methods for game performance that he's been championing
41:46 at tech report. And um he'll have an
41:49 opportunity to and I'm kind of summarizing his words in the thing because I don't want to say anything that he didn't say in his post to move
41:53 across organizational lines and help ensure that the Radon Technologies Group
41:57 creates the best possible experience for gamers. So he'll have access to
42:00 engineering to marketing to pretty much
42:03 whatever with the intention of making
42:06 the gaming experience in the Radon Technologies group, which I kind of
42:11 looked at that announcement of Radeon Technologies Group and kind of went, "Oh, okay." Okay, so they're kind of
42:15 going, "Okay, uh, we're going back to AMD and ATI now." And I kind of figured
42:19 it would just kind of all be under the same management. It wouldn't really be different. Apparently, no, they're, you
42:25 know, refocused, renewed vision and focus with under Raja Kadori's
42:30 leadership and this is going to be a real thing. And they've managed they've
42:34 managed to get Scott to drink the Kool-Aid. So, I am inclined to take a
42:38 sip of the Kool-Aid myself. Radio technology. So, is it RTG now
42:41 instead of ATI? I don't know.
42:44 The new RTG 3 or 490. They should have just called it ATI. It
42:49 would have been super cool. That would have been so sick. I actually would have loved that.
42:53 Like like if it like if they called it like the like oh like AMD, you know, uh
43:00 how do we work like a visual or graphics or like
43:06 ATIX1000? Yeah. Or like something something like
43:10 that. Anyway, so yeah, that was that was that kind of
43:14 that kind of that kind of shook me up earlier this week because between
43:18 between Scott and Anan Baling and uh
43:22 that's that's a couple that's a couple like pretty big that's a couple pretty
43:25 big names and one of the only really couple of the the hardcore written guys
43:30 that I'm that close to who's no longer in the space. Speaking of which, I
43:34 haven't talked to Shrout in a long time. I was just going to say Ryan. Um I asked Scott what's going to happen
43:39 to Tech Report. Obviously, he'll be stepping down as editor-inchief, but I I
43:43 don't know if you guys know this, Scott also owns the Tech Report. So, um it
43:50 doesn't take a genius to figure out that he can't work for AMD and also run an
43:55 editorial website and own an editorial website at the same time. So, uh
43:59 something's going to have to happen there. Um I I asked him about it. I
44:02 can't say anything that he said, but like
44:06 yeah, something will have to happen. Yeah. I mean, basically there's only a
44:09 few options. He sells it, he dissolves
44:12 it, he uh shuts it down.
44:16 Wait, I guess the two of those are the same. From the knowledge that we have from the post, I don't think he's going to shut
44:20 it down or dissolve it because it says tech report will continue under Jeff
44:24 Kapman Campman, managing editor for the last year and a half. So, and they're
44:29 looking for writers to fill his role on CPU and graphics cards.
44:32 Yeah. So, there you go. What a thing.
44:36 Hopefully, this will help them avoid things like the driver problem. AMD
44:41 drivers locking fan speeds at 20% and killing some CPUs. It's been patched.
44:45 GPUs. GPUs. Sorry. It's been patched. Um I
44:49 don't usually like talking about these rumory kind of things until they're like
44:52 done so we know if they're actually a thing or not. Yeah. or or like confirmed that it's an
44:57 actual issue because I mean two people on a forum can like
45:03 have their GTX 980 die after a
45:07 and I'm not really going to want to test it. I really want mine to die.
45:10 Yeah. So like I don't know. We're just going
45:14 to wait till it's official and then we'll talk about it. So yeah, we I had some people messaging us messaging me
45:19 asking about why we haven't been talking about the driver thing. It's because like
45:22 anyway, it was a thing. It is fixed now. So, it is safe to update your drivers.
45:26 But basically, the fan speed was locking way too low. The
45:29 GP 20% or some people apparently having it go up to 100%. So, things were weird.
45:36 I don't know. Yeah. So, it's it's fixed now. New So, we all know who to yell at. Next
45:42 time this happens, you now have a public figure. Yeah. Go for it.
45:45 I don't know how how forward facing he's gonna be.
45:49 Yeah, but I'm sure his Twitter and stuff is still gonna survive. I don't know. Maybe not. I mean,
45:54 is he going to delete his Twitter? Okay, so here's a couple things. Like,
45:58 you look at uh you look at Roy Taylor. Yeah.
46:01 From AMD, whose Twitter disappeared off the face of the earth overnight and
46:05 seems to be back. I think he's back on Twitter, but under
46:09 a different handle. Oh, yeah. It's Roy
46:13 Techwood. Whoa. And I I had sort of I had sort of like I
46:22 my initial reaction when I saw this a fair amount of tweets.
46:25 Yeah. No, no, this is this is new, but he's only got like 4,000 followers. He
46:28 had like like over 100,000 followers before. Yeah.
46:32 So site is still AMD.com. Like I I I
46:36 I don't really understand I don't really understand what happened here.
46:40 Um I don't know. Anyway, so it seems like
46:43 someone at AMD learned their lesson about just letting employees talk on
46:48 Twitter. Um or or maybe didn't because he's back. Like I don't I don't I don't
46:52 know I don't know the backstory of what happened there. And you know there's
46:57 just because someone is good at being public facing doesn't mean that they'll be public facing. I mean you look at
47:02 I don't think you can ban someone from having a Twitter account though. If you
47:07 you can tell them not to post uh
47:10 like Okay. Have you heard have you heard anything from Anan since he left anch?
47:14 No, but that's I don't think he's at Apple though. I don't think Yeah, but I don't think
47:19 Apple is even able to tell you to not have a personal Twitter account. Of
47:23 course, they could fire you for they could fire you for saying things about
47:27 Apple. Okay, that's that's possible. They I don't think they can fire you for
47:31 just using Twitter. Um but at the same
47:35 time, like what I'm saying here is Scott might not reply to people, but if you're
47:39 like, "Oh my god, what the hell?" You could message him and then he could maybe forward that internally. You might
47:43 never hear about it, but he still would probably be able to be contacted.
47:47 Maybe. Maybe. It's possible. Unless he deletes his Twitter, which
47:50 unless he deletes his Twitter. Very also possible. Um, speaking of deleting Twitter,
47:56 uh, actually not related to deleting Twitter at all, Squarespace, one of our
48:01 sponsors for today. You can have a Twitter feed on your Squarespace page,
48:04 which you can actually. We know this from firsthand experience. Yeah, we're working on We're working on
48:08 a special Squarespace page for our CES coverage because Squarespace is going to
48:11 be our sponsor, our main sponsor for CES
48:15 this year. Oh, apparently the video feed is frozen.
48:19 Oh. Oh, great. Wow, that's a great freeze frame.
48:22 We should just do the still image. Wow. It's fine. Don't worry. But don't don't
48:26 even bother fix it. Just It's cool.
48:29 I wonder if they can see that. Oh, yeah.
48:33 Add. See, this is the kind of this is the kind of crap that we go through. Oh
48:37 wow. If you just add a whole bunch of them, if you were able to change the
48:42 still frame, you could rap rapidly add them and then we could have like a
48:46 moving picture like one maybe less than one FPS. Okay. So, let's find out if this is
48:50 going to blue screen. You're a blue screen. I'm about to be potentially.
48:56 Uh, okay. Did you ever play Magicka?
49:02 We'll be right back after these messages. No, wait. It was the messages
49:06 that got interrupted. We'll be right back after we I don't
49:09 know. We're doing something. Hold on. We might have an idea.
49:12 I'm going to keep talking to you guys. How's your day going? Before the show
49:15 started, I did two quizzes. Um, one of them was, "What is your favorite type of
49:19 apple?" And the other one was waffles or pancakes. Uh, I'm going to actually make
49:24 a straw poll right now and I'm going to post that in the Twitch feed. I want you
49:28 guys to answer both questions. Both questions are going to be on one straw
49:32 poll. I know this is pretty like next level, but we're going to do this right
49:35 now. So, give me one second. Straw pole.me, right?
49:39 That's interesting. Yeah. Whoa. Nope. Not straw.me.
49:43 Okay. Um
49:47 Wait, what it is? Let's try the old I'm confused. Plug it back in.
49:52 Apples and breakfast foods.
49:57 Uh, wow. How do I ask what people's favorite type of apple is on Straw Pole?
50:02 Would I have to list all of them? I think so. I think you have to do a Twitter blitz
50:06 if you wanted to. Uh, okay. We can do both at the same time.
50:10 So, I'm going to straw poll uh waffles or pancakes. And I'm going to Twitter
50:13 blitz favorite apple. Okay. Twitter blitz favorite apple. I I
50:18 don't think we're going to get this back up and running. This is uh this is this
50:22 is a thing that happened that is that is not making me super happy right now.
50:27 Video input. No signal. Wait,
50:30 I did the camera turn off.
50:34 No one plugged in the power adapter for the camera. Holy hell.
50:39 I mean, uh, Diablo, uh, what, uh,
50:42 really, you guys? Today, camera setup was a problem.
50:49 Camera setup was a huge problem. Like all over the place. Just saying. That
50:54 was brutal.
50:57 in the middle of my show. Yes. I'm in the middle of your show.
51:02 I don't know what that means. Is that work now? You're going to work now.
51:08 And we're back. I hope. Are we back?
51:13 Hello. Hello. Oh. Oh, wow. That's derpy
51:17 looking. Yeah. Without even losing it. Okay. So, let's
51:22 finish your uh let's finish your Twitter blitz here. All right. And then we'll
51:25 get back to our sponsors. There we go. All right. Waffles and
51:28 Golden Delicious because they are waffle. Excuse me. Delicious.
51:33 Granny Smith. Granny Smith is like the most boring name for the most like sour intense
51:39 apple that there is. I love Granny Smith apples. Granny Smith was covered in caramel.
51:43 Those were And those were also the best candy apples that I've ever had.
51:47 Yeah. Yeah. My wife made candy apples this Halloween.
51:50 It was like like by a lot too. To die for. Yeah. to that and you'd
51:54 think there's nothing to it. Like what?
51:58 It's caramel, which is basically sugar.
52:01 Yeah. And you dip a freaking apple in it. How complic. But the thing is, she did caramel and
52:05 then she did chocolate and then she did Smarties.
52:09 Just decorative candies or something. Lots of different candies. Like it was it was a lot. Your mouth was
52:14 just like whoa, dude. Like the whole time. Favorite Apple iPad Pro with full NDME
52:18 SSD and running Windows or Granny's. That's actually pretty legit.
52:22 Gotcha. that I would actually I would be into that. I'd be super down with that.
52:25 Is for Apple. Thank you, Kids TV123. Granny Smith all the way. Granny Smith
52:29 and Waffles. Probably Fuji Galler Brabburn. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm I'm into
52:34 the Fuji apples. I'm into the Fuji apples. All right. So,
52:37 let's get back to
52:42 Squarespace. It only works on my side.
52:46 Squarespace. There's four linuses to only one Luke.
52:49 No, my chest is here. Look at this. Oh, yeah. That's true. We get all the
52:53 Luke boobage. Um, okay. So, I'm going to
52:56 fix that. I don't really know what I was thinking when I did that. I was a little confused. I thought you
53:00 were just trying to make a joke. I was I was just around. Yeah.
53:03 Um, okay. So, Squarespace is actually going to be our sponsor at CES this
53:07 year. Oh my god. How many times I didn't How many times we get to say build a
53:11 beautiful Are they on every video? Yeah.
53:15 Yes. I can I can feel the dankness of the
53:21 memes already on PC master race.
53:24 Last year was mine is dropping things. This year it's going to be build it
53:28 beautiful. I'm going to be way too happy to say that every time.
53:32 Okay. So, what is Squarespace if you don't already know from watching the W
53:36 show faithfully every week like you probably do. Yeah.
53:40 Yeah. Maybe not. Um is that it is for building a beautiful website. It's
53:45 simple to use. It's powerful. They've got a web gooey. You just kind of build
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54:21 Tunnel bear. I actually saw a really
54:24 funny parody. It was like me doing a presidential speech. Someone grabbed
54:30 like a like a a still frame of our background.
54:33 You found those funny? And then like animated. I found I found
54:36 the one funny because uh I the the part
54:39 about my my plan for Canada. Oh, like all the sponsorships that like
54:43 everyone will have wipes and everything. So Canada will be Canada
54:46 will be corporate sponsored instead of charging it citizens taxes.
54:50 Yeah. Which you know what is actually really
54:54 if we took all the money that gets paid to the government in like lobbying and
54:59 actually just spent it on something useful.
55:02 That'd be pretty sick. Hold on a minute. We might be on to
55:05 something here anyway. The problem is then the people that are
55:08 receiving the lobbying money wouldn't get paid so that would never happen,
55:12 right? Because it's all about them being super rich. I know. I know. But like
55:17 you're basically like if people weren't dick holes about making excessive
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56:51 All right. So, um, now that Nick has Oh,
56:55 he has informed me that he is not that likely to suffer from heart disease. So,
57:00 if he's to get some kind of disease from us messing up our sponsor integrations
57:05 all the time, it will probably be cancer. Oh, yeah.
57:09 Okay. So, uh I I've been corrected. So,
57:13 I don't know. I don't know what's worse. I Well, they're both terrible.
57:17 Yeah. Yeah. They're both like absolutely Are they both just like at the full
57:21 volume level? Like it's just they're both you can't really get any more than
57:24 that. I don't know because there's like Oh, speaking of heart disease, I found out
57:28 Rocket has a heart murmur. What? Yeah. So, he might have to be on like
57:31 blood thinners for the rest of his life. That's interesting. Whoa. Yeah. So, like pet insurance, kids,
57:37 that's a thing. No, I don't have it. Oh, so that's going to be expensive.
57:42 Cuz I'm pretty sure you can't buy pet insurance for in case he develops a
57:45 heart murmur when he already has one. That said, my vets's a family friend.
57:49 Maybe they could discover it has not developed yet.
57:58 I recommend using an honest vet.
58:03 It's probably a good idea. Yeah. Um, so this was posted on the forum by
58:07 evil Emir Tiger Direct to Oops, wrong
58:11 scene. Tiger Direct to lay off 241
58:14 workers in January. They were recently
58:17 sold to PC Mall for $14 million. You know
58:21 what's crazy about this is like my memories of Tiger Direct are
58:26 like back in the days at NCIX, you know,
58:30 eight to eight to three years ago when
58:33 they were like a legit competitor in the PC space and it was like the big three
58:39 was your Newegg, your Tiger and like I'm
58:43 just trying to think who else was like a big I don't even think Amazon was
58:46 I was going to say I don't not not quite yet but they definitely are now
58:49 but like Tiger Tiger came. No, it would have been uh Zip Zoom.
58:53 Zip Zoom Fly. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They've gone gone forever. So, so it was like back when
58:58 like, you know, Yeah. Tiger Direct and
59:01 uh and and and and uh Comp USA, who who
59:05 was actually acquired by Tiger Direct. Like, that's what a big deal they were. They were just like running around
59:08 buying up Comp USA stores. So, they've
59:12 closed a bunch of stores a while ago and they they have gotten rid of um they
59:16 have they've sold to uh PC Mall, which I have actually discovered only recently
59:21 that the reason that they probably liquidated all those assets is actually
59:25 to do with um taxation purposes because
59:29 if you if you sell a company and you
59:33 more than less than 10% or something to
59:36 do with being like active active assets
59:39 or something like that. Like if it's like just sitting there, if you have
59:43 like a bunch of money sitting there or a bunch of buildings sitting there, then you get taxed a lot more on that or
59:47 something. That's okay. That's Yeah.
59:51 Things I would never know. Yeah.
59:54 Uh All right. Why don't we blow through some of these sort of boring things?
59:58 Tweak Town article. NVIDIA rumored to be preparing a GeForce GTX 960Ti. It'll be
60:03 faster than a 960 but slower than a 970.
60:08 and you can take that to the bank. Uh Sam Streker posted that on the forum. Uh
60:12 the Radeon Fury X2 Gemini could be paper
60:16 launching later this month according to WCCF tech. Availability in Q1 2016.
60:20 Could face potential delays. I think that says everything we need to know.
60:24 Right in the headline, what will Gemini be? It will be two Fury GPUs on a single
60:29 card. NVIDIA seems to have kind of just bailed on the whole dual GPU thing.
60:34 Good. Oh god.
60:39 So done with it. Don't want it.
60:43 Oh, there's a new gate. There's a new gate.
60:46 There's a new gate. It's bend gate again. Oh,
60:50 but this time, check this out. It's CPU bend gate.
60:55 So, Intel I've heard about this. Ah, Intel's looking into reports, but says
60:59 there could be several variables at play.
61:03 But apparently using the rated mounting pressure aftermarket CPU coolers, which
61:09 by the way, if you bought a Skylake K series processor is all you're going to
61:12 be using since there is no stock cooler that comes in the box. Well, you could
61:16 buy a box cooler from someone else who
61:19 isn't using it. And speaking of which, we need to get some box coolers. We have
61:24 like two 1151 box coolers left in the
61:27 entire building. I don't know what happened to that. What happened to the one I painted black? Remember the pyramid?
61:31 Yeah, we had like we had a literal pyramid of them. What happened to I made a pyramid cuz I was like I have
61:35 too many of these in my office. So, I built a pyramid on someone else's desk as a joke and then like didn't want them
61:39 back. Yeah, they're like all gone. And now there's one that I can't figure out what
61:43 it's for cuz it's not 775. It's not 13. It's like smaller than 1155 but bigger
61:49 than 775. I don't know what the crap it is. It's an Intel box cooler. So, like
61:54 I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, um so yeah. Uh
61:59 where's the black one? I don't know. I liked that one. Actually used it quite
62:03 a few times. And we even because it looked really nice in B-roll. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know what?
62:07 There's probably one in this box. But isn't that
62:11 Yep. That's the black one. Oh,
62:14 okay. Well, there it is. We found that one. It's in the street machine. Um maybe that's what's causing
62:19 all the problems. Take it out. Take out the painted the painted CPU
62:23 cooler. It's getting paint flakes on everything. Um, so right. So, Haswell
62:29 CPUs apparently had a thicker substrate that caused them to not bend. And that's
62:34 that's the allegation, but Intel has obviously neither confirmed nor denied
62:38 that this is the case up until this point.
62:41 Yeah. Um, Scythe has offered a solution
62:45 offering new screws for their coolers to reduce the mounting pressure. I didn't
62:49 even know Scythe was still in business. Neither did I. Okay. Do you remember their crazy one that
62:54 like went across your entire computer? Yes, I do. I forget what it was called
62:58 though. Like a Mugan.
63:01 Sure. Uh Scythe giant CPU.
63:06 This will probably work. I know that Cooler Master had a redonk
63:09 one that um that's not the one. Oh yeah, there it is.
63:12 Yeah, there you go. So, this picture is from Silent PC review. Uh, just making sure
63:17 I'm giving credit where credit is due. So, yep. It's probably not all that silent.
63:22 No, it probably is. Oh, you just turn them all super slow. Yeah, if you run the fans at like 400
63:26 RPM or something stupid like that, then here it is installed in the case.
63:32 I love that thing. It's like, yeah, if you want to just, you know, heat up
63:35 your graphics card more, no, look, it's going to blow air on top of
63:39 it. Okay. Yeah, but like the surface area of
63:43 this thing is so huge that the actual heating up of the air that's being done.
63:48 This is actually something that I that I've been meaning we should find a way to tackle this in a video because a lot
63:53 of people have this misconception that
63:56 like when when you got to okay when your
63:59 CPU is 70° your heat sink is going to be less than
64:05 that. Let's say your heat sink is 40 degrees or something like that. And
64:09 people have this misconception that when 25 degree air runs through those fins,
64:13 it's 40 degrees on the other side and and you're and you're now you're heating
64:18 up the components on the other side. This is not how it works
64:22 at all. A little bit. A little. Not much.
64:26 Slightly warmer air flow that came through a heat sink is still better than
64:31 than no air. Nothing. Yeah. And so I've seen people go, "Oh,
64:35 but goodness, Lionus, you you mounted that CP that all-in-one liquid cooler
64:39 backwards drawing air into the system. You're now you're just you're heating
64:43 your graphics card." No, the air that comes through that
64:47 cooler is still cooler than my graphics card.
64:51 I was mostly joking. No, I know, but No, but people aren't.
64:55 No, I know you know. No, but but people don't know this. People are like, "Oh,
64:59 you've got two radiators in series." Well, we were going to do that other the
65:02 the I don't know. I want I don't want to say too much the cable. No. Yeah. No. Uh that's that's
65:06 different. I think we should tackle this separate. No, I know. But it's it's a it's another
65:10 one of those like people think it's the worst thing in the world. Yeah, that's true. It's not really that big. It's not
65:13 really that big of a deal. Um John had another interesting idea which I don't know if there's enough
65:17 interest in. Um but with the thing that I was recently checking out, that's all
65:21 I'm going to say. Um I actually don't know what he's talking
65:24 about either. So you guys are on the same page as me. Motherboard orientation cooling
65:28 efficiency. That's a like those Silverstone ones where it's like up and the IO goes out like how
65:34 well does it cool different things compared to it being rotated? Used to be a bigger deal back in the
65:38 earlier days of heat pipes um they were only really effective in a certain
65:42 direction. So inverted motherboards would have
65:46 issues where if you mounted the heat the if you mounted the cooler wrong the um
65:51 the the the liquid wouldn't condense properly down to the hottest down to the
65:55 CPU part of the heat sink and then it wouldn't actually cycle properly. But
65:58 it's it's not really a concern anymore. Um I wanted to jump back to the things
66:02 don't you know a cooling medium doesn't get instantly hot after it touches
66:07 something in the loop that's warm. Uh people who freak out if you've got your
66:11 CPU and then your GPU in series in a water cooling loop. The difference
66:16 between the temperature of the water at the hottest point in a loop and the
66:19 coldest point in the loop is un except in very extreme situations with very low
66:24 air flow or excuse me very low water flow probably in the neighborhood of
66:28 about 0.1 to 0.2 degrees. Seriously,
66:32 it's a thing. Unless you're running like quarter inch tubing on a pump that you
66:37 like found in your, you know, grandma where you got all your stuff for
66:41 scrapard. Yeah. Unless you found it in a back alley somewhere. Um, so so no, the
66:47 system reaches pretty much equilibrium. This is a fluid. This is flowing
66:51 extremely quickly. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the channels are
66:54 like really narrow. Yeah. It goes really far.
66:57 And water does water does more than just
67:01 uh cool by convection when it's running around in a loop like that. Like water
67:04 can conduct heat within itself as well.
67:08 Like it it's it spreads really quickly. It's It's kind of amazing. Um, all
67:12 right. So, what else we got? AC mechanical engineer can confirm in
67:16 chat. Boom. Thank you. Thank you.
67:22 You know, it's really funny because the fact that he's backing me up on this
67:26 means that I'm going, "Thank you." But 98% of the time when someone's like,
67:30 "I'm actually a mechanical engineer." and the blah. It's it's probably it's
67:34 probably nonsense on the internet because everyone like as soon as we
67:38 start doing whole room water cooling, our entire audience is plumbers.
67:41 So many so many plumbers apparently watch us.
67:44 And my favorite part was okay, there was definitely some information in there
67:48 that was like, "Okay, we probably should have done that." There's some great information. There was also a ton of people claiming
67:53 to be experts that had no idea what they were saying.
67:57 And yes, we know we screwed up whole group. Oh yeah,
68:00 it was a disaster. Oh yeah, but not for the reasons that most people
68:04 think it was a disaster. Like there was a lot of stuff that we did that was fine
68:09 and a lot of stuff we did that was super not okay. Um, speaking of super not okay
68:14 or maybe fine. Gez, I don't know. I am Dark Yoshi posted this on the forum. The
68:18 original post here is from f.org. Your printer
68:23 could be spying on you. Well, which it sounds more ominous than it probably is
68:27 because the way that they're using this technology, at least we think, I mean, at least we
68:32 would have no reason to think they would be using it in any other way, is to
68:35 track um counterfeiting. So, now that
68:39 affordable, high quality printers are so
68:42 affordable and high quality. I want to jump in here real quick. Ant
68:45 Venom, he's in the chat right now. Remember how he did the basement water cooling thing? Still running perfectly
68:50 cuz he did it right by not using a a steel reservoir. I thought stainless
68:54 would be fine. I was wrong twice.
68:57 I thought anti-corrosive agents would make it okay. I was wrong twice.
69:03 Um, okay. So, so basically uh right here
69:07 you've got a list of the printers that do or do not display tracking dots. But
69:11 the the summary of this is basically
69:14 um and this goes back like way to when like Xerox invented the laser printer.
69:20 What they do is they actually use scattered pale yellow dots all over the
69:26 document that they printed to give the serial number of the machine as well as
69:30 I think there's some other information as well. The number Yeah. So Zerox rep
69:35 says they put the number of each machine coded into the yellow dots. The dots
69:38 cover less than a thousandth of a page and they can't be seen by the naked eye
69:43 because it's usually yellow on white. So, what you have to do is you have to
69:47 print a page and use a blue LED flashlight and a magnifier to see if
69:51 they're there. And there's pretty much I mean, where there's a will, there's a
69:54 way, but there's pretty much no way to block this from happening because the
69:58 yellow dots are actually something like
70:01 20,000th of a second blah blah blah before before the actual printing
70:06 happens. They're like injected. So, what if you don't feel yellow?
70:13 I don't know. Great question.
70:16 Huh? I don't know. Or like fill it with something else.
70:22 Yeah, I don't know.
70:25 So, uh there you go. Anyway, so
70:32 something something interesting. How does that actually help them, I guess,
70:36 for counterfeiting stuff? Yes. So, if you get a bunch of
70:39 counterfeit bills and you're kind of wondering, okay, where'd the come from? Where did these come from? You can
70:43 inspect it. Try to see if the yellow dots are there. Figure out what printer it was from. But like having the serial
70:46 number of the printer, is that really going to help you? Yeah, that'll tell you what distributor it went through. It'll tell you what
70:50 retailer it was sold through. Okay. So, you could narrow it down to an area, I guess.
70:54 Yep. So, now you can So, you know, it can tell you when it was sold, so you
70:58 can see a purchase pattern. If it was Amazon, you could probably have the person's address.
71:01 Yep. Yep. So, there No, no, it's like a big deal. Or even even a lot of other
71:06 stores. Like, there's lots of stores that collect customer profiles. I mean, I would hope that a counterfeitter would
71:09 be smart enough not to fill out the customer satisfaction survey or whatever. that they weren't.
71:13 Yeah. Okay. I would hope that they weren't, but I would, you know,
71:16 I I know what you were saying. Yeah. I was going to say to restore my
71:20 faith in humanity, except the fact that the counterfeits are running out there making fake money doesn't restore any of
71:24 my faith in humanity. So, not really my point. You don't want it to happen, but you would hope that someone wouldn't be that
71:28 stupid. Someone made a case for you. So, this was supposed to buy Numlock 21.
71:32 What? You were talking about this just the other week. Oh, yeah. But they didn't know about
71:36 that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, someone actually made a DIY Mac Pro
71:39 case. I was talking to Lionus about maybe doing a video where I went and
71:43 tried to buy like a a bin or garbage can or whatever that looked kind of like it
71:47 and trying to make like a the curved top thing and all this kind of stuff to make
71:50 it look like a Mac Pro and building a computer into it and then literally what
71:54 the next WAN Show. Yeah. It's like, hey, they made a case.
71:58 Now, to be clear, you can't put dual Fire Pro cards in it or anything like
72:02 that. It holds an SFX power supply and ITX motherboard and I think like one 120
72:08 mil fan or something like that. But uh yeah, Deb, hey, there you go.
72:12 Cool. I think we should try and get one for review if we can. That'd be fun.
72:15 I'd love to just like check it out here. Maybe I'll make that your problem.
72:18 Oh, great. Get for review
72:22 because it's like only available in like Japan or something. So, if we send a
72:26 message and they ignore it, then we won't uh we won't we won't go to we
72:29 won't go. So, don't expect it. Yeah, don't don't expect it. But I am
72:32 trying to get that flip phone. Actually, Dbrand is trying to get that flip phone
72:36 for me cuz they have all the contacts to like get all the phones.
72:41 So, um, even though it's not a device, are they going to Are they going to put
72:44 like a more expensive skin than the actual phone on it? No, they they actually they aren't
72:48 planning to support it. They're just like being bros. Makes sense. Yep. They're they're they're kind of
72:52 bros, so we're into their their broness. Um, let's see. Oh, yeah. Just Cause 3
72:59 suffers from terrible frame rates on the consoles. This is posted over at the
73:04 gamesc cabin.com and basically yeah the headline here is
73:09 bloody awful which I guess pretty much says all you really need to know about
73:12 it. It was a matter of Oh dang it.
73:17 Did we just take them down? I don't think so because I Yeah, there you go. Um, so yeah, basically they're
73:23 saying, yeah, you know, it's like especially bad when there's an
73:27 explosion. Yes.
73:31 Yep. Lots of effects on screen. That is how frame rate dips work. Oh crap, I
73:35 just moved the thing around before I charged it. Anyways, okay. Um, but the
73:38 the worst part they're actually saying, too, is that load screens?
73:43 Yeah. Anywhere from 30 seconds to what was the what was?
73:48 Yeah. Two and a half minutes. Two and a half minutes. Yeah, on the PlayStation 4.
73:52 That's like Morwind Xbox One level. Yeah, that is a bummer.
73:57 Apparently though, the game's lots of fun. So, yeah, I've heard really good things. We
74:00 probably should have done a performance review. Probably. I didn't even know it came out.
74:05 Yeah, I I've been so head down working on stuff. I didn't Yeah.
74:10 Someone was like, "Yeah, it's tons of fun. Are you guys making video?" I was like, "Oh crap, if it's already out,
74:15 it's probably a little late now." Yeah. Oops.
74:20 bad. All right. What else we got here?
74:24 Is uh about like 10 minutes left. No, I was going to kind of wrap it up
74:29 actually. All right. Um Yeah. No, that's kind of boring
74:34 actually. Yeah, I don't really care. Uh there was No, there was something else I wanted to do. Where is it?
74:38 I'm doing an afterparty. Are you? Yeah. All right.
74:41 Can I come? Sure. I mean,
74:48 oh, oh, nope. Can't talk about that.
74:52 Uh, Konami Konami banned Hideio Khajima from
74:57 accepting the Metal Gear Award. Yeah, this was like not cool.
75:01 It's like they It's like they desperately want to be the least popular
75:04 company on the entire internet. Just what?
75:08 Like, or you could not. That would be super awesome. Um,
75:13 not allowed to attend tonight's Game Awards. Yep. So, I don't really have anything to
75:18 say about that other than that it's Konami being Konami. And oh, this is
75:23 interesting. More Just Cause 3 news. This is off the off GeForce.com.
75:27 Just Cause 3 apparently straight up not
75:32 compatible with multi-GPU solutions.
75:36 In other words, a game update would be required for multi-GPU support. This is
75:42 straight from Andrew Burns from NVIDIA. Um, which is sort of a sort of a bummer.
75:47 So, it's like they couldn't get it right on the consoles. Remember that card that like I I laughed
75:53 when he was like, "Yeah, NVIDIA stopped doing this a while ago when they put two
75:56 GPUs on the same card and charged you twice as much for it.
76:00 There's reasons." Yeah, but you're running SLI now for VR.
76:04 Yeah. Okay. I really hope no VR dev is
76:08 stupid enough to not properly support They're going to be able to
76:11 I think VRS SLI is like rendering the the different eye views
76:16 per card. Yes. But but wouldn't that interface with the
76:19 headset more than the game? I don't know because I really would have
76:22 thought I'm not sure. I don't know how they I would have thought if it was that
76:25 simple, we would have seen perfect scaling with 3D vision with SLI. Like
76:30 I'd have thought if it was as simple as like, yeah, I'll just render each eye with one GPU and boom, perfect scaling.
76:35 I don't think it's simple, but I'm assuming that it has more to do with the
76:39 interface between the graphics cards and the headset than
76:42 Oh, I believe it's not simple. I just think NVIDIA is pretty smart and they've
76:46 been kind of they they were beating that 3D vision drum pretty hard for a long
76:49 time. Yeah. And if it was like if it was as simple
76:53 as GPU one renders the right eye, GPU 2 renders the left eye.
76:56 I'd have thought they would have just figured that out back then. But I I
77:00 don't know. I don't know. I am not a driver. my my VR or my SLI is off.
77:06 I just don't run it because there's so many problems and I just don't mo
77:10 basically every single game that I play even like even pretty intense games
77:14 don't need more than one 1980. Yeah, I haven't run it since uh GTX 260.
77:19 Yeah, that was the last time I was in a daily driver and like we stopped benchmarking
77:24 SLI probably what two and a half years ago just because it was like you know what
77:30 there's tons of problems. It's hard enough to get a video review
77:34 video card review out without forcing ourselves to suffer.
77:38 Yeah. And like just like have games not work and not run properly and stuff. So I
77:42 mean it's one of those things. Nothing against NVIDIA, nothing against AMD.
77:48 I just I run a single graphics card because frankly there's single GPU
77:52 solutions that are so powerful now. Someone's like, "Yo, can I have your unused 980?" Then it's not gonna be
77:57 unused. VRS SLI from NVIDIA. It's like I'm
78:01 stoked for that. I really hope it works well. A thing
78:04 and I'm going to be playing the crap out of VR games if Valkyrie is like any
78:09 Okay, I almost don't even care that much about any games outside of what CCP is
78:13 making. I don't I haven't talked about this a ton on the show, but their disc
78:17 throwing Tron game is so much fun.
78:21 Like you would love it. No joke. You You stand You stand It's Have you seen the
78:26 Tron where they stand on the platforms and throw discs at each other and block with shields? It's exactly that.
78:31 And it's like pretty good tracking because they use connects for body
78:34 tracking and stuff, right? And like the disc can bounce behind you and you can hear them. So you have to like spin
78:38 around and block it and then throw and like it's really active. Tons of fun.
78:42 and I played against Colton just wrecked him. It would be fun to have a more
78:46 athletic opponent. Um, sorry, Colton. He
78:49 admittedly doesn't think he's very good at sports. I don't know. Sorry, buddy.
78:53 Um, but it it was like 29 to four or something. So, like I don't know what to
78:57 say, but so much fun. And then Valkyrie is super fun and Gunjack is super fun.
79:03 And then like there there was some demo of another game there where you just
79:07 like slowly walk up a mountain. Okay.
79:10 And look at birds. And I'm like,
79:13 that's really cool. And I'm sure some people will super enjoy that. I
79:17 definitely there is a market for that for sure. It's just not me,
79:21 right? I don't care. All right. Well, I think that's pretty
79:24 much it for the show for today. So, I'm the last thing I'll do is I will drop
79:28 this link in here. If you haven't already, go watch this video. It is
79:34 finally out on YouTube. It was actually I thought it was supposed to be a week
79:38 earlier. We actually totally screwed up our production schedule.
79:42 Thought it was we screwed up our production schedule on
79:45 um on the super fun jousting video where
79:48 we thought that for Awesome Stuff Week
79:52 for YouTube, we thought we had to have it done a week earlier than we did. So
79:57 we thought Awesome Stuff Week was a week earlier than it was. So we released it
80:01 on Vessel timed to come out a week later on YouTube for Awesome Stuff Week, but
80:05 that was actually the following week. So, we had to do a simultaneous vessel
80:08 release of Odius lists and then delay
80:12 the uh Sweway Jousting video by another week. Um, oh yeah, I was going to talk
80:18 more about Zen and some of the stuff that they talked about. Right. So, AM4 motherboards rumored to launch as early
80:23 as March 2016 and they're going to be, you know, DDR4 like fully modernized and
80:28 it have both CPUs and APUs uh on the
80:31 platform. So, if you guys haven't checked it out already, I just linked it
80:35 in the chat, but this video is absolutely sick. I mean, this should
80:39 give you some idea of what uh what's in store for you.
80:46 Okay. Well, that one that one's kind of lame because it's me versus Terran, but
80:50 uh Okay. Yeah, there we go. There's a good
80:54 moment. This is like way too much fun and way
80:59 too dangerous. I would not recommend anybody do this. I'd love to do it
81:03 again. Yeah, me too.
81:11 So, uh, yeah, you guys are going to want to you guys are going to want to check
81:15 that out. I'll post the link one more time. If you're not subscribe to channel
81:18 Super Fun, holy crap. Get subscribed, you guys, and share it. We can't figure
81:23 out why more people aren't watching these bloody videos. I really don't understand.
81:26 I don't get it. All right. So, thanks
81:29 guys. We'll see you again next week. Same bat time. Same bat channel.
81:34 Bye. There's a channel that has like
81:37 25,000 subscribers that did a medieval
81:40 weapons fighting on Spreadways video. I found it on YouTube somehow. Um, and
81:45 they don't even put full armor on. They were They have like the worst swords
81:48 ever. They did a stand room and like
81:52 And it has like 250 and our like super sick crazy probably
81:58 wearing full armor and slamming to each other.
82:03 Oh,
82:06 are we doing an after party? I was kind of just going to go home.
82:09 Okay, I'm going to go home and do my after party. Okay, good night, guys. Bye.