Hello. Okay. Welcome to the WAN Show, guys. We
are a little late. We're No, we're right. Do they even
I was talking in the Twitch chat. We're right. We are now a top shelf wine.
Do they even want to hear why at this
point? Is it Is it just Is it Is it Are they just tired of my excuses?
I don't think we should bother anymore cuz like is it actually really any
different? How about just a short summary? Sure. We don't touch the computer from
week to week and yet it doesn't work when we sit back down in front of it.
Capture cards are a giant steaming pile of garbage.
Basically all of them as far as I can tell. And uh what was the other what was
the other other bit this week? Uh well yeah uh we Okay. Okay. I had to give
back the XLR audio interface that I had borrowed for the last couple of weeks to
find out if that would work with our external compressor and and so I had to
give that back. So I had to reconfigure that. But I knew that was coming. That part was actually fine. It was the part
that really bothers me is the part where I literally do not touch this entire
corner of the building for a week and I come back and it doesn't work.
The camera does get taken down every week. Yeah, but that's not the issue,
right? But you are unplugging things. It's not like it was just running for
the whole week. I didn't.
But it doesn't matter if you do. And actually, the camera did not get
unplugged this week. It wasn't here. What do you mean it wasn't here?
You said the camera wasn't You told me it wasn't set up. What camera? Well, no, it was it was
sitting here. Just like it didn't have a lens on it. Oh, yeah. But a lens does not affect the
connection between the SDI cable and the converter and the capture card.
So, like I don't understand. I I feel like we need to just simplify things.
Like uh I used to do a lot of Wii U streams using a media cards, which is
like a video capture off of something. Y and never had a single problem with any
of those streams. Yep. And yet here we are with a media
cards and other cards. We're trying to use Blackmagic ones and we still have them in the computer which
is probably causing problem. Yeah. No, I don't think that's causing the problem today.
Sure. That was that was definitely part of the issue. That was definitely part of the
issue, but nothing to do with the fact that our live gamer portable um all of a
sudden needs a bunch of audio delayed. Anyway, so let's get right into what
topics we have today. We got one of them. What?
We said one of them, didn't we? Uh no, we didn't even get to one of them.
No. All right, that's a classic.
Go for it. Amazon drone service is there's no other
notes other than that. So, there's probably some information about the Amazon drone service.
More details. Also, Radeon Fury X2 is on the way.
Something we kind of knew. Uh, Just Cause 3 runs like garbage on the
consoles, which we probably could have guessed. Yeah.
Even if we didn't already know. And VTEC
basically just I mean, not because they not because
they had any kind of a choice in the matter, but they admit that their tablet
was recording personal data and that they were storing it. And this was a toy tablet, right? Yes.
So, without going super deep into the topic, is it worse because it's for
kids? Yes. It is way worse. It is many, many, many
times worse because they are minors. I had to ask him because he's a parent.
I already had that opinion, but his matters more. I didn't think I was that obvious.
I think it's pretty obvious that it matters more if it's a No, you called me a parent.
Settle
first base.
All right, guys. So, uh Oh, everyone's
uh everyone's all everyone's all upset about my about my fantastic dad jokes.
I liked it. It was good. Especially because I was saying that I had to ask
that because you were a dad. So, the timing was good and the quality was
good. Haters going to hate. Yo. All right. So, this is this is about the least expected
use of Jeremy Clarkson's talents that I
could have possibly seen coming over over there at Amazon. But um
is it muted? Do you want it to be muted? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Muted is fine because
basically they just have him explain that Junior here needs some cleats or
something and then whatever. If only there were some way that Amazon could
send it to you. I wonder how much Puma paid for this product placement.
Uh cuz he says the name of the specific cleat literally like it felt like six
times in the video. So this is cool. So this is a V tall V tall drone which
means vertical takeoff and landing. Actual flight footage not simulated
apparently. And then what it does is because you can see it's kind of got a
weird shape to it here. It actually converts to auge it converts to a
forward flight craft. What the crap?
Just like that. So it has a range of I think they were figuring something to the tune of around 18 miles. It uses
sensors to sense things, you know, flight data like speed and whatever.
That that looks kind of simulated. And then basically it finds a suitable
landing point delivery zone. And I think
there's actually like a little like like print out tag you put in your yard.
Oh, okay. That it that it goes and finds. Then they actually show it landing right on
it. Now, I was one of those people who was
in the camp of this is pure this is pure
uh April Fool's joke. They are messing around with us. Um I I was of the
mindset that they were just messing with us when they originally announced that
they would deliver packages by drone. But it looks like they are actually
serious about this. uh they have done a fair bit of R&D presumably uh based on
what they're saying in the video about you know how the drones have sensors to
go around you know hot air balloons or whatever else. So they're working on it
and they they seem to be like for real about making this happened. Apparently
it is designed to safely get packages to
customers in 30 minutes or less making it actually faster for a small item. Um
Mr. Clarkson works in a little joke about how the dog who chewed up the shoe
is now getting a chew toy along with the new shoes.
Um, so as long as they are small, lightweight items in under 30 minutes,
there is no launch date. The drone in the video can fly for 15
miles. 15 miles. Sorry, I said 18 miles, I think. My bad. 15 miles.
Um, so that that means that not everyone's
really going to be able to get this. And I wonder how widespread this is actually
going to be considering the Amazon Fresh campaign. Is that still only in Seattle?
Amazon Fresh I thought they were in New York too.
They might be. I'm not sure. I I haven't looked this up. I was just thinking about that right now. Um Amazon seems to
do things but then not necessarily spread them out actually all that well.
Yeah, Amazon Fresh subsidiary company in Seattle, Washington. It revived the
business model of ordering groceries online and bippity boppity bippity
boppity product lines. uh selected parts of center city, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania, New York City on October 17th, 2014. So yeah, it's a San
Francisco, San Diego. Still kind of taking some time to spread out. Yes, it's doing okay though.
Yeah, we're we're obviously this is not something where it's like, yes, this is
driving 18% of our annual revenue. Uh
yeah, nothing like that. But um
and and there's still problems just like there was last time where putting Prime
Air into service will this is a quote, putting Prime Air into service will take
some time, but we will deploy when we have the regulatory support needed to
realize our vision. That's huge. Yeah, it's going to take a while. And I
mean, this doesn't address a lot of the other issues as well. So the drones that
the drone they showed off there apparently flies at about 400 ft. So for
the um for the metric people it's about 130 m
uh which it's it's not very high.
No actually. So if if the whole thing that people are joking about online and you
know if someone jokes about it the hunting the drones thing
if if a thousand people joke about it online
one person's going to do it. One will do it. And that's kind of all it's going to
take is for one person to shoot like a net gun at a drone,
have it come down, peg some kid in the head, kill them, and then
I was just going to say the first one that falls is going to be really
interesting. Yep. Can Amazon just peg its way out of
this, you know, like here's $6 million. Sorry your kid's dead or whatever. Like
I don't know. Will they will they keep the program going at that point? How important is it
for people to get things in 30 minutes? Currently about airplanes like reg
regulatory maintenance issues where they're they're repairing the planes out
of the states because there's lower uh I
don't know what the right word for it is. Uh you don't have to be as careful
when you're doing maintenance when you do it outside of the states. So
seriously, airplane people like airlines. Yes, looser regulations.
That's what I was looking for. Uh there's lower amounts of regulations, looser regulations for repairing
airplanes. So they're doing it outside of the states. Uh they're already
sketchy about airplanes. Think about drones. Are they going to be doing maintenance checks on these things like
every trip or every couple trips? I
doubt it. Yeah, unless Amazon has like robots that are
going to do that, but then I don't know.
It's a really cool idea. People are saying that the the limit for drones is 400 feet and that's why. Yeah,
but that's not really the point. The point is that people will be bringing them down.
Yes. So yeah, I mean if the US changes the
regulations and allows Amazon to fly them higher, then that's that opens up a
whole other can of worms because someone in the chat said, "So I guess
we're all wondering if Amazon Prime Air is gonna take off."
Um, probably sounded horrible.
Sorry everyone. Um, so I there was one other comment
that I wanted to make about it. Uh, right. Yeah. One of the first one of
the top comments on the on the video was from someone saying like, "Oh, you know,
the the couriers must be must be really worried about this." To which I would
reply, I really don't think so. Amazon even now is positioning this and and
intelligently so is positioning this as a as a premium service.
Yeah. So, this is not like you need to have a mark. Like, if you
saw in the video, you need to have a little like drop the package here thing
in your yard. I don't know how many people are going to actually do that.
Well, no. I think you just you just like print it when you place your order and you chuck it there.
Oh, yeah. I don't think it's It looked like it was down in the grass. I don't think it's permanent.
It It looks I don't know in the video. Okay. But maybe they like did a heavy
one so that it wouldn't like get blown away. It would probably look better.
Yet yet another concern. It ends up in your neighbor's yard. and
they're like, "Nope, my property now." Um,
what? Yeah. What happens when it screws up a delivery? Yeah. So, so, okay, there's a lot of
concerns. Okay. So, A, it's expensive. B, this is going to be for lightweight
items only, small orders only. I'm pretty sure
they were doing cleats. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that UPS is not
worried at this point about, you know, all the people ordering like half the I
I'm just trying to think what percentage of the stuff we order off of Amazon
would fit in a little drone like that. Us? Not much.
Yeah, not not much. It's like if you order a computer case, I don't think
there's going to be the like the jumbo drone. With that said, for the like books and stuff, if you can
carry cleats, you might be able to carry a book or two. And Zeppelin technology is coming back.
That's awesome. Zeppelin are coming back, my friend. So
if they can get the Zeppelin drone going, as long as they don't make the
like a crane lower out of it and drop your package off like crane lowers out
and then it just like tilts up and just slides off. Yeah. I mean, okay. As long as they
don't make the zeppelins out of hydrogen or lead, then we're in really good
shape. Yeah. There you go.
All right. Uh let's just see if there's anything else to really say about it.
Probably Probably not. I don't know. We've talked about this thing like three times. Almost nothing's
changed except there's a video now. Well, the smart the the video changes a
lot for me because seeing seeing such an elegant design for a V tall plane um
Oh, the drone the drone itself is super cool. Makes a big difference to me because
when they originally did the April Fool's joke, they were using a
quadcopter drone or or a six copter drone if I recall correctly. And that's
like some of the stuff out of China, right? where we've seen like, you know,
early attempts to it's all like these six copter like
just total like disaster over long
distances designs whereas yeah if you can go all plane all plane
uh you know forward flying on it then it
might actually work. Very very cool. I want to know what prevents people from
capturing them when they land in their yard. Like
I'm sure they have sensors, cameras, whatever.
Yeah, I I'm I'm fairly sure that I could order something to anyone's address for
one thing. I could put on a ski mask or whatever and like capture the drone when
it lands, put it in a lead box and you know take it away to I don't know like
I'm sure I'm someone's if something is valuable someone will come up with a way
to steal it. Yeah. Period. Someone will probably get one.
Yeah. or it'll land and drop off its thing and then
and then not really be able to leave. Like I don't know, something's going to happen.
I guess it's funny. You have people are worried about like automation and
rightfully so. But uh I mean that creates a new job, right? The guy whose
job it is to get in his car and drive to drive to the customer's house be like,
"Hey, yeah, sorry. The drone's in the backyard. Can I just
Here's a here's a here's a gift card. I'm going to go get that.
Thanks for that. Um, so that was posted on the forum by
uh, Pixel Density. Thank you for that. Uh, next article today posted by PCBond
on the forum. YouTube Beyond seeks to compete with Netflix. Original
article here is from rstechnica.co.uk.
And I think YouTube's intentions of, you
know, getting movie deals and TV show deals, um, and wanting more more
professionally made premium content is not exactly new. But what is new is that
there's some more details about them being perhaps a little bit more serious
about it than last time around. So, the Wall Street Journal reported that
YouTube is looking to bolster YouTube Red specifically with TV shows and
movies because YouTube Premium or whatever they called it before, you
could rent movies on YouTube before. That's not new. And you've been able to watch like UFC
fights and Yep. But so, but but that was pay-per-view
and rentals. Yeah. Whereas this would be a like basically a direct shot across
the bow of Netflix by saying, "Okay, no, we want to have a monthly subscription
that also includes TV shows and movies." And if they pull this off, I mean,
YouTube Red effectively becomes your Spotify,
your Netflix, and your adree YouTube.
Like, the adast free YouTube for 10 bucks a month is
already a compelling enough value that I'm probably going to do it. And then you get music, and you might
get movies as well. And you might get movies and and TV shows. And TV shows
and TV shows. I mean, ad free adree YouTube
from a purely I need my kids to shut up for half an hour while I get a little
bit more sleep in the morning is already enough for me to spend the $10 a month
on it. Because let me tell you, a one-year-old is super interested in, you
know, A is for Apple. A a apple. And
then when some ad for like bor skin
cream comes on, she starts she starts
mashing at it. She starts throwing it. She starts making noise. I'm like, "No,
I'm still sleeping. A is for Apple, please."
And and snoozing in the morning when you get woken up every literally every three
and a half minutes when the ad comes on. And you know, it's amazing how much the
way that YouTube has monetized kids content has changed in the last two
years. Because when my son was one and I
wanted to sleep in in the morning, like kids TV 123 had almost no ads on it.
Like one out of every 30 videos that played was going to be monetized. Now
it's like every single one.
Well, it's a huge percentage of YouTube at this point. Yep. Yeah. But I just I thought that
the, you know, kids advertising kids advertising laws were a little
complicated, which isn't to Yeah. Which
then again, I guess, you know, TV does it too.
Yeah, TV does it too. Yeah, but there's like rules depending on the country.
Like in Canada, this is interesting. I have no idea about any of this.
Yeah, in Canada a commercial can't start with, "Hey kids, do you want to buy the
new Wild, wacky amazing adventure pack?"
It has to be like, "Hey parents, do you
want to buy for your kids the Wild Wacky Amazing Action Pack? Look at how amazing
this thing is." Yeah. So, it has it's the voice that it's
speaking. It has to address a different audience. Um, but I guess that leads us
that actually leads us pretty well into this post by Z Mule on the forum. The
original article here is Kit Guru and VTEC. VTEC got
Oh jeez. Nailed son.
So, if you you guys do you guys know VTEC? Like I only really know them from
like clear plastic uh cordless, you know, phones.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back when we had a landline. Yeah. A lot of people have those as
landlines. At least at least here anyway. Like I'm pretty sure like future shop in the
source. You walked in, you wanted a cordless phone, you walked up and
you wanted and you wanted a relatively cheap one. 900 megahertz. Yeah.
2.4 GHz. So remember how they wrote the V? Like
there's tons of these. Yeah. So So basically they admit their
toy hack affected 6.4
million children. And this is this is great their statement about it. So I'll
give you a bit more details after but regrettably our database was not as
secure as it should have been.
So in a nutshell um on the 14th of November it's learning lodge app store
was broken into giving a hacker access to the customer database and kid connect
services. So what's that the worst thing about this is that
servers. Yeah. Um so this hack actually allowed
them to get access not only to just like
uh you know uh login and login and password but they actually were able to
figure out the exact uh the exact
accounts that they were tied to giving them access to way more personal
information than just that. And they had a bunch of other stuff in their data in
their uh in their system, including the hackers were able to access more than
190 gigs of photos and audio logs off of
these devices that can then be traced back to usernames and account details,
which makes the security threat much more worrisome, especially considering
this is a childfriendly marketed device. The Into Tab Max, our
fastest tablet featuring Vsex VSX. Whoops. No, it doesn't have that on it.
VTEC selected Android apps and games.
That's really sketchy. I'm not a huge fan of it. Also, um, compromised other
sites as well. One of them I can't even really say. Lumibo XRevs.
I don't know. Probably said that super wrong. vmilelink.com. Sleepy Bear
Lullaby Time, which is the greatest name for a website ever.
Yeah, I kind of want to buy that site now. It reminds me of Channel Super Fun.
Sleepy Bear Lullaby Time.com.
So great. Anyways, so these are all VTEC uh owned entities.
Yeah. So I guess uh I guess I don't know. What is
there to really say? By the way, Zil posted this on the forum. Thanks for that. What is there to really say other
than, you know, lock up your lock up your kids and keep them away from all
internet? Hide your hide your what? It's hide your kids. Hide your kids.
Lock up your kids. Lock up your daughters. That's the Oh,
yeah. I thought you were going for internet meme. No, no, no, no.
Hide your kids. Hide your wife. Yeah, cuz they hacking everybody out here.
Yeah. Nothing. Nothing's safe. Eh,
not really. I think I own VTEC stuff.
Nothing. Nothing that collects any personal information. It's like I don't because the only thing I ever
knew that they made were like relatively cheap phones.
That's the only reason why I don't know. Yeah. No, I'm pretty sure they make lots of kids stuff cuz I have like this uh I
have like this goofy um it's got like a keyboard on it and it's got like just
kind of games like fill in the letter blank. Okay. And there's like a there's like a happy
bear that asks you to fill in the letter, create a letter bridge.
Uh yeah. No, not a sleeping bear. I love that website name. Um,
sleepy bear by time. This is kind of a big deal. Posted by
Commission. I don't know how to pronounce that, but uh on the forum. So,
this is from geek.com. Sony unlocks the PlayStation 4's seventh
processing core for developers. So, in a
nutshell, this is something Microsoft already did a little while back um in
order to get a little more competitive with the PlayStation 4 is the the AMD
custom processor that they're actually both using, although different slightly
slightly different versions of it, but the the actual CPU cores themselves,
they're both using an 8 core APU of sorts. And uh so the Xbone was reserving
two of its cores for things like uh connect, say, for example. Um,
so Microsoft kind of went, "Oh, shoot. We're kind of losing the performance war." Because Microsoft went with a
slightly slower tuned version. So they unlocked a seventh core which means that
in games that need to leverage that extra horsepower. You can't access some
background processes such as menus and and connect say such as sorry excuse me
menus uh such as connect which is good which is which is which is fine because
if the game wasn't going to leverage connect at all anyway then it can use the processing power
that would have been locked and unused. Yes. Um, and with, you know, if you're
making, you know, Happy Dance Party Time X or whatever game,
Happy Bear, Sleepy Time. Yeah. Then you you frankly don't need the seven cores anyway. So that that
seems like a pretty good compromise to me. So place uh so Sony has now I think
we're Yeah. So this was back in January that Microsoft did it. So almost a year
later, they have now done the same thing, allowing
the PlayStation 4 to basically get as close to its potential maximum as it
can, which is going to be brutal for Xbox One because they already did this and like
we're up still losing to PlayStation. So now PlayStation will be even more ahead.
Yeah. with I guess the um the the the
main this the discussion point here because that news in and of itself is
not actually terribly exciting. The consoles this generation are
underpowered. Yeah. Whoopde freaking do. Here's what I want to know and I want to
hear from you guys. We're going to straw pull this up in here. Nice. I'm excited. I like straw holes.
If you think back to Microsoft's Xbox One launch event, their whole thing
the server thing. Is that what you're talking about? No, I'm not going to talk about that.
That's that's a whole other ball of wax. Still drives me insane. That might not that might just never see
the light of day. I don't think so. Um, so did
we're going to use cloud servers to render things for your thing and it's
going to make it easier and better and faster and that'll never happen.
All right. Uh, hold on. I'm just going to create I'm going to create the um
It's like skiing in World of Warcraft. How many times have they said they were going to put skiing in the game? Nope.
Have they? Yeah. It was on the is on the back of the box for Wrath of Lich King.
Excellent. All right. Well, at any rate, there's the straw pull. Um,
random facts that don't matter. There you go. I did not know that. So, if you think
back to the you guys, I didn't even ask the question. I haven't clarified yet.
Well, keep keep the tab open so you can fix it in case you change your mind. So,
if you think back to the Xbox One launch event, Microsoft's whole spiel was that
the Xbox One is not a game console. It
is like your family living room hub. It
is your entertainment hub. It is your it you watch TV on it. You, you know, wave
at it and you're like, "Hey, Xbox. Wow. Wake up and let's play some games." Or,
"Oh, well, not just games. Maybe we're going to look at our photos
or access our Sky Drive or I guess they still called it Sky Drive
at that point. I don't know. Anyway, the point is it was supposed to be more than
just a game console, a game machine, but
not a PC. It wasn't a PC. Make it an entertainment system. Yeah. They didn't know what the hell it
was. So, did they learn their lesson? Is that
what we're figuring out here now that Microsoft and Sony have both kind of
gone, "Oh people don't really care other than like their Netflix app. They
they don't really care about doing anything on this other than playing
video games." I don't think they have. It turns out a game console is just a
console. Or are they going to come back with the Xbox 2 and the PlayStation 5?
And are they gonna be like, "If they call it the two, I'm gonna I'm gonna
like crap a brick." Okay. If they call it the Xbox,
that would be so horrible. Um, so are they going to come back with
that and go, "Yeah, we added way more power this time for way better gaming
and also we cordined off a bit of it again
for like we're going to still try and do that other stuff again." So, I want to
know I want to know from you guys. So, let's let's head over to my screen. Let's have a look at straw poll results.
We've got a whopping 58% of you, most of whom didn't even wait for me to explain
the question, saying no, they did not learn their lesson.
A 31% of you are voting for turnip the
way you should, throwing away your votes. I love the timing of our whole
vote for turnup thing and then Donald Trump running for president.
Every time I wear that shirt,
every time I wear that shirt, people are like, "Ah, it's a Donald Trump joke
because you might as well just vote for a turnip." and it kind of looks like it.
Um, and then 11% of you go, "Yes, they're
going to treat a game console like a game console next time."
I don't think so. What do you Okay. Well, I was about to ask what you think, but I guess way to
interrupt me. Whoa. You better this whole stream. There's
been I hate that you're interrupting multiple stories of stream. I'm like,
okay. Anyways, I don't think that they have.
Uh, reasons for why I don't think that they have are largely based in the past.
I know things have changed, but still, um, this was the first time that they've
made money by selling their console. Mhm. So, I feel like
not much. I know, but still. Before they were losing, now they're making some. That's
actually a pretty significant difference when you're selling that much volume. So, you're saying we're still going to
get underpowered consoles because they got used to the idea of making money
selling the console. I get it. Before it was like accessories and
whatever and we'll make it and it'll be awesome. Now it's like experience and we
want to make more money because it's more premium or not really.
And $160 accessories. Yeah. Yeah, that too. Elite controller.
Yeah. Um so I don't really think so. And
this honestly should have been in there from the start even if it was um still
aimed to not be as gamy of a game console as it is,
right? Um because why not? Yeah. Why force a developer?
Yeah. So, I don't think that actually has anything to do about them learning
that it should be just a game console. I think that has them has more to do with
that should have just been a thing. Why lock it off? That's just stupid. I will explain why. And actually, you
know what? Because they're trying to force people to use the thing. I was going to say, no, it's it's deeper
than that. Okay. I was going to say that I was going to disagree with you. I was gonna say that
I think they learned their lesson and I think they're gonna come back focused on
gaming and gamers, but I actually realized as you were
talking that I'm with you, but for a slightly different reason. Okay. because I think they are still
going to try to force the game developers to use the gimmick and
they're still going to try and create the gimmick because at the end of the day 900p versus 720p is something that
the PC audience cares about but that the console audience is frankly many of them
not that interested in. Whereas when you create a marketing video, look at how
many Wii still fun. Look at how many Wii Nintendo sold from
showing people waggling sticks around. Honestly though, that was legitimately
fun. And the Connect isn't. But that's what the marketing that's
that's the marketing engine. That's why they're going to keep forcing game
they're going to come up with a gimmick. Yeah. Yeah. And they're going to force game devs to
use the gimmick and they're going to they're going to they're going to punish
game devs who don't use the gimmick. And they're going to do it again and again and again because that's visually
interesting. Whereas 300 FPS at 4K,
well, actually 4K they might be able to sell, but but not for a long time
because 4K TVs are only now just barely approaching
affordability. Okay, first off, I am a Nintendo fanboy, so
just going to get that like fairly across the board. We know. Um
even though they're despicable in so many ways, they're pretty bad, but it's okay. It's
okay. It's fine. Zelda's coming out soon. Yoshi's adorable. I have the woolly one,
the little toy, because I bought Yoshi's Woolly World, which is just the best
game. It's so much fun. If you complete a level with 100%, you get another
Yoshi, and he comes in like you can get like a cow Yoshi or like a forest Yoshi,
and they're hilarious, and they're super cute. Anyways, moving forward. With the
Wii, when they make some crazy gimmick thing, you can just ignore it. The
developer can just ignore it. With the Gamepad thing, you don't have to use it. Unless the developer is Nintendo and
they're making Twilight Princess and then they're going to do some stupid crap. Yeah, sure. But
I had to buy a classic controller just to play that stupid game.
Yes. Yes. Carry on though. But they can. They don't force people to
use their gimmicky things. Like you can just turn the controller sideways
turning into a more retro style controller. Use none of the motion stuff. The least ergonomic retro controller
ever. Pretty rough, but still use none of the motion stuff and
put a condom on the end. You don't have to. You can take that
off. You can go rock. But that's not safe. It's That's true.
Bearback is not the kind of we use that we To be fair though, that's the only way I
use my controllers. Because you trust yourself not to throw
them at your TV. I mean, I remember.
Okay, this is Okay. Sorry. Do Do you still have your train of thought? Will
you be able to come back to it? Because I can go for it. Okay. Okay. So,
I was sitting at work. Okay. I was at my desk. Uh, so I was working at NCIX back
when the Wii came out. So I was sitting at my desk and I had gotten the Wii for
myself for Christmas for my family, but it was for me. So I had gotten the Wii
for myself for Christmas and I we my
like uh my my in-laws and my now wife then girlfriend and I had spent like the
entire holiday season bowling and like playing tennis with each other.
And it was great. So, I read I start reading
the articles about people breaking their TVs, flinging weotes into them,
and I'm at I'm at my my in-laws house and I'm talking to my now girl then
girlfriend, now wife, I don't now have a girlfriend. Um, and I'm like, what kind
of flipping idiot? Oh, no. Throws a Weimo at the TV.
So, she kind of goes ashen, right?
And like she's just just like she kind of changes the subject and I'm like
meanwhile I want to talk about this forever. I'm like you got to be freaking
kidding me. Like if you're that sweaty
take a take a break, okay?
Stop flinging your arms around. Just take a breather, okay? The Wii even
interrupts you every like 20 minutes or whatever. Go outside.
It's like, yeah, hey, you know, everyone just stop playing Wii Sports for 10
minutes. Okay. So later on I'm talking to her and she's like, "So yeah, my dad
like threw the Wii remote today." He was in the room when I'm talking about this.
She's like, "Yeah, my dad threw the Wii remote at the TV today. He almost broke it."
And I was just like, "What? That is so brutal." I I thought you were
talking about the like gel sleeve that No, they didn't exist yet.
Oh, this was in the early days. I'm like OG wee.
Yeah. No, no, I know. I actually I got That was what I was talking about. Yeah,
that was what I was talking about when I talked about the Wii condom. But I got one I was super lucky. You
remember how the stock was super bad? Yeah. You couldn't find them anywhere. I camped out twice.
I didn't camp out at all. I walked into my local Best Buy and like some employee
that didn't know that they were backstocked or whatever just put one on the shelf and I was like, "Uh, okay."
Picked it up and bought it. The person at the till was like, "What?" I was
like, "Yep, cool." Just walked out and got one. I think it was probably someone
else's order. So after I realized that, I felt kind of bad, but I was like, it's
on the shelf, so I didn't felt kind of bad all the way to the
bank. Oh, well, the it was kind of expensive
at the time. Well, yeah. What was it like $400? I don't remember, but I remember like I
had saved up for for it for a bit and I think my mom like helped contribute because she wanted the the fitness
deputy pack. I ended up with four of them before Christmas.
Yeah. Well, my wife my wife and I camped twice. Okay. And so my boss, the owner
of NCIX, needed one. So that got a hefty markup.
Yeah. Um my other boss, uh who was actually he
actually visited our studio the other day. He's like, uh he I would consider
him a friend, not just like a former boss. Um
so my other boss got one. He got a less hefty, but definitely, you know, there
well they're going for this much on eBay, so you know,
relatively close to that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I actually made so much selling a
couple of them that mine were effectively like a couple hundred bucks
for two. There you go. Yeah.
And I bought some Weimotes. So, uh, so yeah, that that worked out pretty well
for me. With that said, I don't have the kind of time to do stuff like that. Although, I have exciting news. When are
you seeing Star Wars? Uh, I'm waiting. I want to go with
Brandon because he's good to talk to movies about afterwards and stuff. So, I
don't actually have a ticket yet because he doesn't have a ticket yet. So, I This
is a major This is a big shout out. This is a huge massive like
Wait, do you have opening day tickets? Well, not quite. Okay.
But this is a massive shout out to Anthony over at NCX who thanks to I'm
not going to say how he got them, but it's something to do with like a
purchase that he made recently and like an owners club website that probably no
one will ever visit ever. There's a special non-public screening at 9:00 am
on the Saturday. Wow. 9:00 am the day after it launches.
So, he has two tickets and he was kind
of shopping them around like and Jack was like, "Yeah, I'm going with, you
know, someone else and blah blah blah and like and he and and I was like and
then he was like, "Oh, well, I don't know, Lionus. Do you want to come? Do you have tickets yet?" I'm like,
actually, no, because I have children and so going to see like a late night
screening is not always the easiest thing for me and stuff like that. So, I was I was planning I was literally
planning to spend three weeks with my eyes closed and my fingers in my ears
until I was going to be able to see it. Nope, I am seeing it 9:00 a.m. So, so Anthony
and I have a master plan to show up at like 7:30. It's first come, first
served. So, we have a master plan to show up at like 7:30 in the morning uh
at the theater and it's going to be freaking awesome and I'm going to see it on time pretty much for the first
first come first serve and you're showing up at 7:30 for 9:00 a.m.
But remember, this is not a public screening probably. No one knows about it. There
wasn't even an email newsletter. Nothing. If you happen to sign into like the owner's portal.
Wow. That's unlikely. Yeah. So, I'm expecting to be sitting
like dead theater center. Wow.
For Star Wars the day after launch. I'm super super excited.
I'm assuming Brandon is going to be waiting a little while because I think
he wants really good seats, too. Yeah. So, I'm probably going to be waiting a
while. All I can say is it better not disappoint because the last movie that I
like freaked out and saw right away was The Hobbit Part One. Have you heard about the Darth Jar Jar
Binks? I have. I love it. It's actually pretty good.
I actually love it. If you haven't seen the conspiracy theory that
it's pretty solid that Jar Jar is actually the Sith master
orchestrating everything behind the scenes, uh, check it out. It was a great
post on Reddit. It's really good. It's really good. There's like it's it
goes all kind of like, well, hold on. Yeah. Yeah.
What if Jar Jar was all like like drunken kung fu master kind of thing
like when he's like jumping around going a missile clumsy boom knocking out drone
droids and killing them all over the place.
What if it's all an act? And then he's like inexplicably in the second movie,
he's like a member of the Senate. Yeah. Or something like what?
Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. It actually like he must have been using mind control.
I still don't That's a huge part of it. That's a huge part of it. Yeah. And they have clips where he's
like doing the handwavy thing all the time. Super interesting.
I don't know. It's It's ridiculous and it's Yeah. But it's fun and it makes you not
hate so much those series of movies. If you go back and I I haven't done it
yet, but if you rewatch with that in mind, I plan to re I'm going to reread the
whole spiel because it's like a couple pages long. Yeah. I'm going to reread the whole spiel. I'm
going to watch Phantom Menace again thinking Jar Jar is a mastermind
and trying to mind control and pretend that he's crappy when he's not.
Yeah. And he got he got kicked out of the underground city. We know this. He caused all kinds of problems. Stupid
viewer. We assumed that, you know, he
knocked over the, you know, prince's daffodil plant or whatever, but, you
know, daffodils would be pretty valuable underwater. Oh,
yeah. Wow. It' probably be a rare rare commodity. Yeah. Probably imported imported
daffodils. So, so you know, was George Lucas
planning, and this is the this is the theory. Was George Lucas planning a a
Luke I am your father moment for the end of Attack of the Clones?
No, it was me the whole time. that never happened because he bailed. Um, and
obviously not, but yeah, it's fun. Anyways,
it's it's really fun. Yeah. Speaking of things that are fun,
oh, Scott, our good buddy over at
AMD and not Tech Report.
Didn't see that one coming. Did not see that one coming. Is no
longer is no longer going. I wonder if we'll get cards on time now.
Maybe this is a good thing. No, he's not in that role.
Oh, yeah. Sorry. Um, so, so I I actually
I've spoken on the phone with Scott since the announcement and I don't know
how much of what was said was public knowledge versus what wasn't.
So, I will give a summary of what's in in his blog post and and not much more,
but I'm gonna I'm going to be connecting with him uh at CES and I'll probably
talk in some more depth. But, um, just for those of you who don't know, I
respect Scott a lot. He's super smart. He's been doing this whole tech
journalism thing. He's he's just such a respectable guy. He's been doing this
for over 15 years. And um you know what
we actually like we have uh we have a partnership with Tech Report on a couple
things like we've worked together on a couple things in the past. Y
um and this just he kind of like I I
sent him a tweet that was like, you know, we we can't bleep things on Wan
show, so I'm not going to use the exact words that I did, but it was just
basically like what the and you can kind of fill in the blanks for yourself. And
yeah, like seriously. Um and he kind of
sends back the message. He's like, "Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, dude. I
super meant to tell you, but this just like happened really fast." And you
know, AMD hosted an event um some months ago.
No, no, some some months ago the phone call happened. But then what happened
really suddenly was the deal got inked and AMD had an event that they did
earlier this week where they announced actually a bunch of really cool stuff. We'll talk about that a bit more later,
some Zen architecture stuff. Um and they were like, well, you're going
to be at this event with an AMD badge on, so that's tomorrow. So, I guess up
goes a blog post at 10:43 p.m. on December the 2nd.
Oh my goodness. Okay, that's pretty aggressive. So, that's what happened. And um so,
pretty much he's going to be working at AMD to help implement the frame
timebased testing methods for game performance that he's been championing
at tech report. And um he'll have an
opportunity to and I'm kind of summarizing his words in the thing because I don't want to say anything that he didn't say in his post to move
across organizational lines and help ensure that the Radon Technologies Group
creates the best possible experience for gamers. So he'll have access to
engineering to marketing to pretty much
whatever with the intention of making
the gaming experience in the Radon Technologies group, which I kind of
looked at that announcement of Radeon Technologies Group and kind of went, "Oh, okay." Okay, so they're kind of
going, "Okay, uh, we're going back to AMD and ATI now." And I kind of figured
it would just kind of all be under the same management. It wouldn't really be different. Apparently, no, they're, you
know, refocused, renewed vision and focus with under Raja Kadori's
leadership and this is going to be a real thing. And they've managed they've
managed to get Scott to drink the Kool-Aid. So, I am inclined to take a
sip of the Kool-Aid myself. Radio technology. So, is it RTG now
instead of ATI? I don't know.
The new RTG 3 or 490. They should have just called it ATI. It
would have been super cool. That would have been so sick. I actually would have loved that.
Like like if it like if they called it like the like oh like AMD, you know, uh
how do we work like a visual or graphics or like
ATIX1000? Yeah. Or like something something like
that. Anyway, so yeah, that was that was that kind of
that kind of that kind of shook me up earlier this week because between
between Scott and Anan Baling and uh
that's that's a couple that's a couple like pretty big that's a couple pretty
big names and one of the only really couple of the the hardcore written guys
that I'm that close to who's no longer in the space. Speaking of which, I
haven't talked to Shrout in a long time. I was just going to say Ryan. Um I asked Scott what's going to happen
to Tech Report. Obviously, he'll be stepping down as editor-inchief, but I I
don't know if you guys know this, Scott also owns the Tech Report. So, um it
doesn't take a genius to figure out that he can't work for AMD and also run an
editorial website and own an editorial website at the same time. So, uh
something's going to have to happen there. Um I I asked him about it. I
can't say anything that he said, but like
yeah, something will have to happen. Yeah. I mean, basically there's only a
few options. He sells it, he dissolves
it, he uh shuts it down.
Wait, I guess the two of those are the same. From the knowledge that we have from the post, I don't think he's going to shut
it down or dissolve it because it says tech report will continue under Jeff
Kapman Campman, managing editor for the last year and a half. So, and they're
looking for writers to fill his role on CPU and graphics cards.
Yeah. So, there you go. What a thing.
Hopefully, this will help them avoid things like the driver problem. AMD
drivers locking fan speeds at 20% and killing some CPUs. It's been patched.
GPUs. GPUs. Sorry. It's been patched. Um I
don't usually like talking about these rumory kind of things until they're like
done so we know if they're actually a thing or not. Yeah. or or like confirmed that it's an
actual issue because I mean two people on a forum can like
have their GTX 980 die after a
and I'm not really going to want to test it. I really want mine to die.
Yeah. So like I don't know. We're just going
to wait till it's official and then we'll talk about it. So yeah, we I had some people messaging us messaging me
asking about why we haven't been talking about the driver thing. It's because like
anyway, it was a thing. It is fixed now. So, it is safe to update your drivers.
But basically, the fan speed was locking way too low. The
GP 20% or some people apparently having it go up to 100%. So, things were weird.
I don't know. Yeah. So, it's it's fixed now. New So, we all know who to yell at. Next
time this happens, you now have a public figure. Yeah. Go for it.
I don't know how how forward facing he's gonna be.
Yeah, but I'm sure his Twitter and stuff is still gonna survive. I don't know. Maybe not. I mean,
is he going to delete his Twitter? Okay, so here's a couple things. Like,
you look at uh you look at Roy Taylor. Yeah.
From AMD, whose Twitter disappeared off the face of the earth overnight and
seems to be back. I think he's back on Twitter, but under
a different handle. Oh, yeah. It's Roy
Techwood. Whoa. And I I had sort of I had sort of like I
my initial reaction when I saw this a fair amount of tweets.
Yeah. No, no, this is this is new, but he's only got like 4,000 followers. He
had like like over 100,000 followers before. Yeah.
So site is still AMD.com. Like I I I
I don't really understand I don't really understand what happened here.
Um I don't know. Anyway, so it seems like
someone at AMD learned their lesson about just letting employees talk on
Twitter. Um or or maybe didn't because he's back. Like I don't I don't I don't
know I don't know the backstory of what happened there. And you know there's
just because someone is good at being public facing doesn't mean that they'll be public facing. I mean you look at
I don't think you can ban someone from having a Twitter account though. If you
you can tell them not to post uh
like Okay. Have you heard have you heard anything from Anan since he left anch?
No, but that's I don't think he's at Apple though. I don't think Yeah, but I don't think
Apple is even able to tell you to not have a personal Twitter account. Of
course, they could fire you for they could fire you for saying things about
Apple. Okay, that's that's possible. They I don't think they can fire you for
just using Twitter. Um but at the same
time, like what I'm saying here is Scott might not reply to people, but if you're
like, "Oh my god, what the hell?" You could message him and then he could maybe forward that internally. You might
never hear about it, but he still would probably be able to be contacted.
Maybe. Maybe. It's possible. Unless he deletes his Twitter, which
unless he deletes his Twitter. Very also possible. Um, speaking of deleting Twitter,
uh, actually not related to deleting Twitter at all, Squarespace, one of our
sponsors for today. You can have a Twitter feed on your Squarespace page,
which you can actually. We know this from firsthand experience. Yeah, we're working on We're working on
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this year. Oh, apparently the video feed is frozen.
Oh. Oh, great. Wow, that's a great freeze frame.
We should just do the still image. Wow. It's fine. Don't worry. But don't don't
even bother fix it. Just It's cool.
I wonder if they can see that. Oh, yeah.
Add. See, this is the kind of this is the kind of crap that we go through. Oh
wow. If you just add a whole bunch of them, if you were able to change the
still frame, you could rap rapidly add them and then we could have like a
moving picture like one maybe less than one FPS. Okay. So, let's find out if this is
going to blue screen. You're a blue screen. I'm about to be potentially.
Uh, okay. Did you ever play Magicka?
We'll be right back after these messages. No, wait. It was the messages
that got interrupted. We'll be right back after we I don't
know. We're doing something. Hold on. We might have an idea.
I'm going to keep talking to you guys. How's your day going? Before the show
started, I did two quizzes. Um, one of them was, "What is your favorite type of
apple?" And the other one was waffles or pancakes. Uh, I'm going to actually make
a straw poll right now and I'm going to post that in the Twitch feed. I want you
guys to answer both questions. Both questions are going to be on one straw
poll. I know this is pretty like next level, but we're going to do this right
now. So, give me one second. Straw pole.me, right?
That's interesting. Yeah. Whoa. Nope. Not straw.me.
Okay. Um
Wait, what it is? Let's try the old I'm confused. Plug it back in.
Apples and breakfast foods.
Uh, wow. How do I ask what people's favorite type of apple is on Straw Pole?
Would I have to list all of them? I think so. I think you have to do a Twitter blitz
if you wanted to. Uh, okay. We can do both at the same time.
So, I'm going to straw poll uh waffles or pancakes. And I'm going to Twitter
blitz favorite apple. Okay. Twitter blitz favorite apple. I I
don't think we're going to get this back up and running. This is uh this is this
is a thing that happened that is that is not making me super happy right now.
Video input. No signal. Wait,
I did the camera turn off.
No one plugged in the power adapter for the camera. Holy hell.
I mean, uh, Diablo, uh, what, uh,
really, you guys? Today, camera setup was a problem.
Camera setup was a huge problem. Like all over the place. Just saying. That
was brutal.
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I don't know what that means. Is that work now? You're going to work now.
And we're back. I hope. Are we back?
Hello. Hello. Oh. Oh, wow. That's derpy
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Those were And those were also the best candy apples that I've ever had.
Yeah. Yeah. My wife made candy apples this Halloween.
It was like like by a lot too. To die for. Yeah. to that and you'd
think there's nothing to it. Like what?
It's caramel, which is basically sugar.
Yeah. And you dip a freaking apple in it. How complic. But the thing is, she did caramel and
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were just trying to make a joke. I was I was just around. Yeah.
Um, okay. So, Squarespace is actually going to be our sponsor at CES this
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Yes. I can I can feel the dankness of the
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Last year was mine is dropping things. This year it's going to be build it
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Yeah. Which you know what is actually really
if we took all the money that gets paid to the government in like lobbying and
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That'd be pretty sick. Hold on a minute. We might be on to
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right? Because it's all about them being super rich. I know. I know. But like
you're basically like if people weren't dick holes about making excessive
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I don't know. I don't know what's worse. I Well, they're both terrible.
Yeah. Yeah. They're both like absolutely Are they both just like at the full
volume level? Like it's just they're both you can't really get any more than
that. I don't know because there's like Oh, speaking of heart disease, I found out
Rocket has a heart murmur. What? Yeah. So, he might have to be on like
blood thinners for the rest of his life. That's interesting. Whoa. Yeah. So, like pet insurance, kids,
that's a thing. No, I don't have it. Oh, so that's going to be expensive.
Cuz I'm pretty sure you can't buy pet insurance for in case he develops a
heart murmur when he already has one. That said, my vets's a family friend.
Maybe they could discover it has not developed yet.
I recommend using an honest vet.
It's probably a good idea. Yeah. Um, so this was posted on the forum by
evil Emir Tiger Direct to Oops, wrong
scene. Tiger Direct to lay off 241
workers in January. They were recently
sold to PC Mall for $14 million. You know
what's crazy about this is like my memories of Tiger Direct are
like back in the days at NCIX, you know,
eight to eight to three years ago when
they were like a legit competitor in the PC space and it was like the big three
was your Newegg, your Tiger and like I'm
just trying to think who else was like a big I don't even think Amazon was
I was going to say I don't not not quite yet but they definitely are now
but like Tiger Tiger came. No, it would have been uh Zip Zoom.
Zip Zoom Fly. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They've gone gone forever. So, so it was like back when
like, you know, Yeah. Tiger Direct and
uh and and and and uh Comp USA, who who
was actually acquired by Tiger Direct. Like, that's what a big deal they were. They were just like running around
buying up Comp USA stores. So, they've
closed a bunch of stores a while ago and they they have gotten rid of um they
have they've sold to uh PC Mall, which I have actually discovered only recently
that the reason that they probably liquidated all those assets is actually
to do with um taxation purposes because
if you if you sell a company and you
more than less than 10% or something to
do with being like active active assets
or something like that. Like if it's like just sitting there, if you have
like a bunch of money sitting there or a bunch of buildings sitting there, then you get taxed a lot more on that or
something. That's okay. That's Yeah.
Things I would never know. Yeah.
Uh All right. Why don't we blow through some of these sort of boring things?
Tweak Town article. NVIDIA rumored to be preparing a GeForce GTX 960Ti. It'll be
faster than a 960 but slower than a 970.
and you can take that to the bank. Uh Sam Streker posted that on the forum. Uh
the Radeon Fury X2 Gemini could be paper
launching later this month according to WCCF tech. Availability in Q1 2016.
Could face potential delays. I think that says everything we need to know.
Right in the headline, what will Gemini be? It will be two Fury GPUs on a single
card. NVIDIA seems to have kind of just bailed on the whole dual GPU thing.
Good. Oh god.
So done with it. Don't want it.
Oh, there's a new gate. There's a new gate.
There's a new gate. It's bend gate again. Oh,
but this time, check this out. It's CPU bend gate.
So, Intel I've heard about this. Ah, Intel's looking into reports, but says
there could be several variables at play.
But apparently using the rated mounting pressure aftermarket CPU coolers, which
by the way, if you bought a Skylake K series processor is all you're going to
be using since there is no stock cooler that comes in the box. Well, you could
buy a box cooler from someone else who
isn't using it. And speaking of which, we need to get some box coolers. We have
like two 1151 box coolers left in the
entire building. I don't know what happened to that. What happened to the one I painted black? Remember the pyramid?
Yeah, we had like we had a literal pyramid of them. What happened to I made a pyramid cuz I was like I have
too many of these in my office. So, I built a pyramid on someone else's desk as a joke and then like didn't want them
back. Yeah, they're like all gone. And now there's one that I can't figure out what
it's for cuz it's not 775. It's not 13. It's like smaller than 1155 but bigger
than 775. I don't know what the crap it is. It's an Intel box cooler. So, like
I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, um so yeah. Uh
where's the black one? I don't know. I liked that one. Actually used it quite
a few times. And we even because it looked really nice in B-roll. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know what?
There's probably one in this box. But isn't that
Yep. That's the black one. Oh,
okay. Well, there it is. We found that one. It's in the street machine. Um maybe that's what's causing
all the problems. Take it out. Take out the painted the painted CPU
cooler. It's getting paint flakes on everything. Um, so right. So, Haswell
CPUs apparently had a thicker substrate that caused them to not bend. And that's
that's the allegation, but Intel has obviously neither confirmed nor denied
that this is the case up until this point.
Yeah. Um, Scythe has offered a solution
offering new screws for their coolers to reduce the mounting pressure. I didn't
even know Scythe was still in business. Neither did I. Okay. Do you remember their crazy one that
like went across your entire computer? Yes, I do. I forget what it was called
though. Like a Mugan.
Sure. Uh Scythe giant CPU.
This will probably work. I know that Cooler Master had a redonk
one that um that's not the one. Oh yeah, there it is.
Yeah, there you go. So, this picture is from Silent PC review. Uh, just making sure
I'm giving credit where credit is due. So, yep. It's probably not all that silent.
No, it probably is. Oh, you just turn them all super slow. Yeah, if you run the fans at like 400
RPM or something stupid like that, then here it is installed in the case.
I love that thing. It's like, yeah, if you want to just, you know, heat up
your graphics card more, no, look, it's going to blow air on top of
it. Okay. Yeah, but like the surface area of
this thing is so huge that the actual heating up of the air that's being done.
This is actually something that I that I've been meaning we should find a way to tackle this in a video because a lot
of people have this misconception that
like when when you got to okay when your
CPU is 70° your heat sink is going to be less than
that. Let's say your heat sink is 40 degrees or something like that. And
people have this misconception that when 25 degree air runs through those fins,
it's 40 degrees on the other side and and you're and you're now you're heating
up the components on the other side. This is not how it works
at all. A little bit. A little. Not much.
Slightly warmer air flow that came through a heat sink is still better than
than no air. Nothing. Yeah. And so I've seen people go, "Oh,
but goodness, Lionus, you you mounted that CP that all-in-one liquid cooler
backwards drawing air into the system. You're now you're just you're heating
your graphics card." No, the air that comes through that
cooler is still cooler than my graphics card.
I was mostly joking. No, I know, but No, but people aren't.
No, I know you know. No, but but people don't know this. People are like, "Oh,
you've got two radiators in series." Well, we were going to do that other the
the I don't know. I want I don't want to say too much the cable. No. Yeah. No. Uh that's that's
different. I think we should tackle this separate. No, I know. But it's it's a it's another
one of those like people think it's the worst thing in the world. Yeah, that's true. It's not really that big. It's not
really that big of a deal. Um John had another interesting idea which I don't know if there's enough
interest in. Um but with the thing that I was recently checking out, that's all
I'm going to say. Um I actually don't know what he's talking
about either. So you guys are on the same page as me. Motherboard orientation cooling
efficiency. That's a like those Silverstone ones where it's like up and the IO goes out like how
well does it cool different things compared to it being rotated? Used to be a bigger deal back in the
earlier days of heat pipes um they were only really effective in a certain
direction. So inverted motherboards would have
issues where if you mounted the heat the if you mounted the cooler wrong the um
the the the liquid wouldn't condense properly down to the hottest down to the
CPU part of the heat sink and then it wouldn't actually cycle properly. But
it's it's not really a concern anymore. Um I wanted to jump back to the things
don't you know a cooling medium doesn't get instantly hot after it touches
something in the loop that's warm. Uh people who freak out if you've got your
CPU and then your GPU in series in a water cooling loop. The difference
between the temperature of the water at the hottest point in a loop and the
coldest point in the loop is un except in very extreme situations with very low
air flow or excuse me very low water flow probably in the neighborhood of
about 0.1 to 0.2 degrees. Seriously,
it's a thing. Unless you're running like quarter inch tubing on a pump that you
like found in your, you know, grandma where you got all your stuff for
scrapard. Yeah. Unless you found it in a back alley somewhere. Um, so so no, the
system reaches pretty much equilibrium. This is a fluid. This is flowing
extremely quickly. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the channels are
like really narrow. Yeah. It goes really far.
And water does water does more than just
uh cool by convection when it's running around in a loop like that. Like water
can conduct heat within itself as well.
Like it it's it spreads really quickly. It's It's kind of amazing. Um, all
right. So, what else we got? AC mechanical engineer can confirm in
chat. Boom. Thank you. Thank you.
You know, it's really funny because the fact that he's backing me up on this
means that I'm going, "Thank you." But 98% of the time when someone's like,
"I'm actually a mechanical engineer." and the blah. It's it's probably it's
probably nonsense on the internet because everyone like as soon as we
start doing whole room water cooling, our entire audience is plumbers.
So many so many plumbers apparently watch us.
And my favorite part was okay, there was definitely some information in there
that was like, "Okay, we probably should have done that." There's some great information. There was also a ton of people claiming
to be experts that had no idea what they were saying.
And yes, we know we screwed up whole group. Oh yeah,
it was a disaster. Oh yeah, but not for the reasons that most people
think it was a disaster. Like there was a lot of stuff that we did that was fine
and a lot of stuff we did that was super not okay. Um, speaking of super not okay
or maybe fine. Gez, I don't know. I am Dark Yoshi posted this on the forum. The
original post here is from f.org. Your printer
could be spying on you. Well, which it sounds more ominous than it probably is
because the way that they're using this technology, at least we think, I mean, at least we
would have no reason to think they would be using it in any other way, is to
track um counterfeiting. So, now that
affordable, high quality printers are so
affordable and high quality. I want to jump in here real quick. Ant
Venom, he's in the chat right now. Remember how he did the basement water cooling thing? Still running perfectly
cuz he did it right by not using a a steel reservoir. I thought stainless
would be fine. I was wrong twice.
I thought anti-corrosive agents would make it okay. I was wrong twice.
Um, okay. So, so basically uh right here
you've got a list of the printers that do or do not display tracking dots. But
the the summary of this is basically
um and this goes back like way to when like Xerox invented the laser printer.
What they do is they actually use scattered pale yellow dots all over the
document that they printed to give the serial number of the machine as well as
I think there's some other information as well. The number Yeah. So Zerox rep
says they put the number of each machine coded into the yellow dots. The dots
cover less than a thousandth of a page and they can't be seen by the naked eye
because it's usually yellow on white. So, what you have to do is you have to
print a page and use a blue LED flashlight and a magnifier to see if
they're there. And there's pretty much I mean, where there's a will, there's a
way, but there's pretty much no way to block this from happening because the
yellow dots are actually something like
20,000th of a second blah blah blah before before the actual printing
happens. They're like injected. So, what if you don't feel yellow?
I don't know. Great question.
Huh? I don't know. Or like fill it with something else.
Yeah, I don't know.
So, uh there you go. Anyway, so
something something interesting. How does that actually help them, I guess,
for counterfeiting stuff? Yes. So, if you get a bunch of
counterfeit bills and you're kind of wondering, okay, where'd the come from? Where did these come from? You can
inspect it. Try to see if the yellow dots are there. Figure out what printer it was from. But like having the serial
number of the printer, is that really going to help you? Yeah, that'll tell you what distributor it went through. It'll tell you what
retailer it was sold through. Okay. So, you could narrow it down to an area, I guess.
Yep. So, now you can So, you know, it can tell you when it was sold, so you
can see a purchase pattern. If it was Amazon, you could probably have the person's address.
Yep. Yep. So, there No, no, it's like a big deal. Or even even a lot of other
stores. Like, there's lots of stores that collect customer profiles. I mean, I would hope that a counterfeitter would
be smart enough not to fill out the customer satisfaction survey or whatever. that they weren't.
Yeah. Okay. I would hope that they weren't, but I would, you know,
I I know what you were saying. Yeah. I was going to say to restore my
faith in humanity, except the fact that the counterfeits are running out there making fake money doesn't restore any of
my faith in humanity. So, not really my point. You don't want it to happen, but you would hope that someone wouldn't be that
stupid. Someone made a case for you. So, this was supposed to buy Numlock 21.
What? You were talking about this just the other week. Oh, yeah. But they didn't know about
that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, someone actually made a DIY Mac Pro
case. I was talking to Lionus about maybe doing a video where I went and
tried to buy like a a bin or garbage can or whatever that looked kind of like it
and trying to make like a the curved top thing and all this kind of stuff to make
it look like a Mac Pro and building a computer into it and then literally what
the next WAN Show. Yeah. It's like, hey, they made a case.
Now, to be clear, you can't put dual Fire Pro cards in it or anything like
that. It holds an SFX power supply and ITX motherboard and I think like one 120
mil fan or something like that. But uh yeah, Deb, hey, there you go.
Cool. I think we should try and get one for review if we can. That'd be fun.
I'd love to just like check it out here. Maybe I'll make that your problem.
Oh, great. Get for review
because it's like only available in like Japan or something. So, if we send a
message and they ignore it, then we won't uh we won't we won't go to we
won't go. So, don't expect it. Yeah, don't don't expect it. But I am
trying to get that flip phone. Actually, Dbrand is trying to get that flip phone
for me cuz they have all the contacts to like get all the phones.
So, um, even though it's not a device, are they going to Are they going to put
like a more expensive skin than the actual phone on it? No, they they actually they aren't
planning to support it. They're just like being bros. Makes sense. Yep. They're they're they're kind of
bros, so we're into their their broness. Um, let's see. Oh, yeah. Just Cause 3
suffers from terrible frame rates on the consoles. This is posted over at the
gamesc cabin.com and basically yeah the headline here is
bloody awful which I guess pretty much says all you really need to know about
it. It was a matter of Oh dang it.
Did we just take them down? I don't think so because I Yeah, there you go. Um, so yeah, basically they're
saying, yeah, you know, it's like especially bad when there's an
explosion. Yes.
Yep. Lots of effects on screen. That is how frame rate dips work. Oh crap, I
just moved the thing around before I charged it. Anyways, okay. Um, but the
the worst part they're actually saying, too, is that load screens?
Yeah. Anywhere from 30 seconds to what was the what was?
Yeah. Two and a half minutes. Two and a half minutes. Yeah, on the PlayStation 4.
That's like Morwind Xbox One level. Yeah, that is a bummer.
Apparently though, the game's lots of fun. So, yeah, I've heard really good things. We
probably should have done a performance review. Probably. I didn't even know it came out.
Yeah, I I've been so head down working on stuff. I didn't Yeah.
Someone was like, "Yeah, it's tons of fun. Are you guys making video?" I was like, "Oh crap, if it's already out,
it's probably a little late now." Yeah. Oops.
bad. All right. What else we got here?
Is uh about like 10 minutes left. No, I was going to kind of wrap it up
actually. All right. Um Yeah. No, that's kind of boring
actually. Yeah, I don't really care. Uh there was No, there was something else I wanted to do. Where is it?
I'm doing an afterparty. Are you? Yeah. All right.
Can I come? Sure. I mean,
oh, oh, nope. Can't talk about that.
Uh, Konami Konami banned Hideio Khajima from
accepting the Metal Gear Award. Yeah, this was like not cool.
It's like they It's like they desperately want to be the least popular
company on the entire internet. Just what?
Like, or you could not. That would be super awesome. Um,
not allowed to attend tonight's Game Awards. Yep. So, I don't really have anything to
say about that other than that it's Konami being Konami. And oh, this is
interesting. More Just Cause 3 news. This is off the off GeForce.com.
Just Cause 3 apparently straight up not
compatible with multi-GPU solutions.
In other words, a game update would be required for multi-GPU support. This is
straight from Andrew Burns from NVIDIA. Um, which is sort of a sort of a bummer.
So, it's like they couldn't get it right on the consoles. Remember that card that like I I laughed
when he was like, "Yeah, NVIDIA stopped doing this a while ago when they put two
GPUs on the same card and charged you twice as much for it.
There's reasons." Yeah, but you're running SLI now for VR.
Yeah. Okay. I really hope no VR dev is
stupid enough to not properly support They're going to be able to
I think VRS SLI is like rendering the the different eye views
per card. Yes. But but wouldn't that interface with the
headset more than the game? I don't know because I really would have
thought I'm not sure. I don't know how they I would have thought if it was that
simple, we would have seen perfect scaling with 3D vision with SLI. Like
I'd have thought if it was as simple as like, yeah, I'll just render each eye with one GPU and boom, perfect scaling.
I don't think it's simple, but I'm assuming that it has more to do with the
interface between the graphics cards and the headset than
Oh, I believe it's not simple. I just think NVIDIA is pretty smart and they've
been kind of they they were beating that 3D vision drum pretty hard for a long
time. Yeah. And if it was like if it was as simple
as GPU one renders the right eye, GPU 2 renders the left eye.
I'd have thought they would have just figured that out back then. But I I
don't know. I don't know. I am not a driver. my my VR or my SLI is off.
I just don't run it because there's so many problems and I just don't mo
basically every single game that I play even like even pretty intense games
don't need more than one 1980. Yeah, I haven't run it since uh GTX 260.
Yeah, that was the last time I was in a daily driver and like we stopped benchmarking
SLI probably what two and a half years ago just because it was like you know what
there's tons of problems. It's hard enough to get a video review
video card review out without forcing ourselves to suffer.
Yeah. And like just like have games not work and not run properly and stuff. So I
mean it's one of those things. Nothing against NVIDIA, nothing against AMD.
I just I run a single graphics card because frankly there's single GPU
solutions that are so powerful now. Someone's like, "Yo, can I have your unused 980?" Then it's not gonna be
unused. VRS SLI from NVIDIA. It's like I'm
stoked for that. I really hope it works well. A thing
and I'm going to be playing the crap out of VR games if Valkyrie is like any
Okay, I almost don't even care that much about any games outside of what CCP is
making. I don't I haven't talked about this a ton on the show, but their disc
throwing Tron game is so much fun.
Like you would love it. No joke. You You stand You stand It's Have you seen the
Tron where they stand on the platforms and throw discs at each other and block with shields? It's exactly that.
And it's like pretty good tracking because they use connects for body
tracking and stuff, right? And like the disc can bounce behind you and you can hear them. So you have to like spin
around and block it and then throw and like it's really active. Tons of fun.
and I played against Colton just wrecked him. It would be fun to have a more
athletic opponent. Um, sorry, Colton. He
admittedly doesn't think he's very good at sports. I don't know. Sorry, buddy.
Um, but it it was like 29 to four or something. So, like I don't know what to
say, but so much fun. And then Valkyrie is super fun and Gunjack is super fun.
And then like there there was some demo of another game there where you just
like slowly walk up a mountain. Okay.
And look at birds. And I'm like,
that's really cool. And I'm sure some people will super enjoy that. I
definitely there is a market for that for sure. It's just not me,
right? I don't care. All right. Well, I think that's pretty
much it for the show for today. So, I'm the last thing I'll do is I will drop
this link in here. If you haven't already, go watch this video. It is
finally out on YouTube. It was actually I thought it was supposed to be a week
earlier. We actually totally screwed up our production schedule.
Thought it was we screwed up our production schedule on
um on the super fun jousting video where
we thought that for Awesome Stuff Week
for YouTube, we thought we had to have it done a week earlier than we did. So
we thought Awesome Stuff Week was a week earlier than it was. So we released it
on Vessel timed to come out a week later on YouTube for Awesome Stuff Week, but
that was actually the following week. So, we had to do a simultaneous vessel
release of Odius lists and then delay
the uh Sweway Jousting video by another week. Um, oh yeah, I was going to talk
more about Zen and some of the stuff that they talked about. Right. So, AM4 motherboards rumored to launch as early
as March 2016 and they're going to be, you know, DDR4 like fully modernized and
it have both CPUs and APUs uh on the
platform. So, if you guys haven't checked it out already, I just linked it
in the chat, but this video is absolutely sick. I mean, this should
give you some idea of what uh what's in store for you.
Okay. Well, that one that one's kind of lame because it's me versus Terran, but
uh Okay. Yeah, there we go. There's a good
moment. This is like way too much fun and way
too dangerous. I would not recommend anybody do this. I'd love to do it
again. Yeah, me too.
So, uh, yeah, you guys are going to want to you guys are going to want to check
that out. I'll post the link one more time. If you're not subscribe to channel
Super Fun, holy crap. Get subscribed, you guys, and share it. We can't figure
out why more people aren't watching these bloody videos. I really don't understand.
I don't get it. All right. So, thanks
guys. We'll see you again next week. Same bat time. Same bat channel.
Bye. There's a channel that has like
25,000 subscribers that did a medieval
weapons fighting on Spreadways video. I found it on YouTube somehow. Um, and
they don't even put full armor on. They were They have like the worst swords
ever. They did a stand room and like
And it has like 250 and our like super sick crazy probably
wearing full armor and slamming to each other.
Oh,
are we doing an after party? I was kind of just going to go home.
Okay, I'm going to go home and do my after party. Okay, good night, guys. Bye.