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Jayz, Louis Rossmann, Wendell - WAN Show July 13 2018

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2019-05-06 · 15,924 words · ~79 min read

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0:01 boom we should be live on the WAN Show i'm going to yet again pull it up on my

0:06 phone because because of the should that i just did you get them no

0:11 okay you guys are going to witness some fly hunting throughout the show because

0:14 there's one that just will not leave us alone and i believe lewis is going to murder it before we're done uh but to to

0:19 introduce people here louis rossman um

0:23 fighter of apple repairer of everything

0:26 uh what's your like channel and stuff what various callouts uh rossman group

0:30 with two s's and two ends that's a good way to do that uh level

0:35 one text wendell how's it going Linux masterman if you oh don't hit me

0:40 now where'd it go

0:44 this will be a recurring theme it's a big one too

0:48 oh it's it's it's been feeding it would be well it would be an honor to be assaulted by lewis rossman

0:57 yeah he'll repair it afterwards i am also down to be a target just go for

1:00 gold let's go

1:05 right on the face i love how you're like i'll take it and

1:09 then it goes okay here we go right here yeah okay yeah uh channel level one text

1:14 any other callouts you want to do how's it going yeah there we go wendell

1:18 jay's two cents you guys probably know jay uh

1:22 everywhere yeah with a z it's not jay-z on twitter no but if

1:26 you're gonna tag me tag beyonce too yeah i might as well include it uh and this

1:31 WAN Show will probably not be super standard we have some news topics i

1:34 don't know what almost any of them are we know that the uh there's some

1:38 updates to the macbook pro uh chrome is

1:42 using more RAM wow that's surprising and some other stuff but i doubt we'll get

1:45 to a ton of it because we'll probably go into crazy tangents and we might kill a

1:48 fly i'm gonna roll the intro and we'll be back in a second

2:20 you're probably either okay or not um private internet access vpn

2:25 and savage jerky are the sponsors for this show i'm gonna

2:30 try to reset this and then go back to maine

2:33 so new macbook pros coming out um they have replaced the keyboard

2:38 uh but as we were talking before the show it's not gonna fail anymore

2:42 wrong it is a third generation butterfly

2:47 keyboard however this design was was not

2:50 intended to solve the recently highlighted butterfly keyboard issues

2:54 that's a direct quote from apple isn't it i i believe so it's not in quotes

2:58 here but i believe so well not well i mean there was no problem with it to

3:02 begin with right you're just typing too hard so what what was theatrica i generally

3:07 stay away from from those but what was the actual problem well people would say

3:11 that the key is either not working or it'll type 20 times when you press it

3:15 once and usually people would show up and say i didn't get any water on it it

3:19 just happened that i'd open it and it would be yellow and brown and ugly but

3:23 some of these look like they're just new out of the box and the keys just don't

3:26 work on them and then it started to be something where once a day somebody would show up

3:30 then five people a day would show up then when we had like 20 to 40 people

3:33 showing up a day with the same problem and calling and emailing about it i

3:37 realized this is going to be a thing yeah yeah

3:41 that's the super shallow flat real thin key yes the thin key that goes

3:45 like every time you type it that really obnoxious annoying one it's not like a

3:48 nice mechanical keyboard noise it's a mechanical keyboard noise without any of

3:52 the mechanic part yeah there's no bass to it it's just

3:55 yeah they just have like i was not a fan of that keyboard

3:59 at all like i couldn't type on it yeah the throw is just so short

4:03 but basically what i'm hearing here is we got a new keyboard but

4:06 it could potentially have all the same problems as the other one well yeah they

4:10 they specifically didn't even roll this keyboard out to fix the

4:14 problem so i assume i assume there will because it was never a problem

4:18 right i got i got to put the apple hat back on do you have a sense that if it

4:22 it's more than like a year old it's exponentially more likely to fail

4:25 unnaturally or is it is it age related at all

4:28 i don't know i think it's even age related because some people showing up at this have had it for six or eight

4:32 months and they'll show up and ask if we can fix it because they don't want to wait a week or two for the apple store

4:36 to do it weird

4:39 not good well just like iphone 4 just don't hold it that way yeah

4:43 it's just this really weird level of utopianism where i think like if

4:47 it honestly reminds me what my history teacher used to talk about with the with

4:51 uh russia and the soviet union where somebody would be we called the counter

4:55 revolutionary because they did something wrong and they would that guy would get thrown in prison and then the guy that

5:00 was throwing him in prison would wind up getting thrown in prison by somebody else it's like somebody will say my

5:04 machine is getting really hot and i get lines on the screen and they'll say why

5:07 don't you get applicant if you had apple care then it would it would have been covered and then the guy and then the

5:12 guy that says that winds up one day out of applecare uh with a machine where

5:16 like it'll just start randomly crashing and he's like oh my god maybe that other

5:19 person was right but then he'll post in the forum and they'll go why didn't you

5:22 get they released the replacement program for it why didn't you get it and

5:26 one of the funny things was the 2010 macbook where they it had a crashing

5:30 problem because they used the wrong capacitor they released the replacement program in 2013 that only covered the

5:35 machine three years from the date of purchase and the machine was manufactured in two thousand twenty two

5:39 so if you were sitting there going f5 f5 f5 f5 on their warranty page maybe you

5:43 would be able to get it but but if you believe that apple products are this

5:47 great because in some ways they are you know they're easy to use they use pci

5:50 express ssds in 2013. um they have really great screens they don't crash as

5:55 often if you're comparing its older Windows and something goes wrong you

5:58 really don't want to believe that the product is bad yeah so you either have

6:02 to admit that they have faults or you have to deny your own experience and

6:05 what drives me nuts is when people will actually believe i'm typing on it wrong

6:09 i'm holding it wrong i'm encoding video on it wrong and that's what drives me

6:13 nuts it's not that the product itself is terrible it's that when something goes

6:17 wrong with it people will just treat themselves as if they did something wrong

6:20 rather than if the company did something because they truly believe the product

6:23 is fail-proof yeah it's like you know it's not like other companies don't have

6:26 faults too it's just if somebody buys an hp and that happens they will yell at hp

6:31 they won't but if something happens with an apple product and it's the same fault

6:34 they'll just believe that they did something wrong and it drives me up a

6:38 wall yeah and it's it's it's

6:42 it's a frustrating experience too because like i i've generally liked

6:45 apple's ecosystem because i will send certain people there uh like like for

6:50 instance my mom i tried to get her to get an iphone then she got used to

6:53 Android so there's no point trying to flip that over again but i try to get her to get an iphone because like you

6:57 said they're they're quite easy to use they're usually fairly intuitive all

7:01 that kind of stuff but then when you start having these problems it's like oh

7:04 okay you're spending with this new macbook up to like seven thousand

7:08 dollars if you want to get the crazy max to your oh they they get pretty

7:11 expensive what you can get six cores 32 gigs of RAM uh like four terabyte ssds

7:18 so you can get the specs ridiculously high which is i guess part of the factor because

7:22 anytime you tear up anything in apple's customizer it's really expensive and

7:26 there's things that they do well you know if david bowie was coming back to life for 20 minutes and i had one chance

7:30 to record you've been around again i would want to do it on a mac not Windows

7:34 10. right it's just i don't want to deal with all these other problems Windows 10

7:38 might try to you know like you update in the middle or yeah

7:41 nonsense like that man okay so for ltx which is tomorrow uh

7:46 we have we have two guests here from the forum two guys that i've never met

7:49 before which i think is actually really cool that they're coming i haven't seen them yet uh but two admins on the forum

7:54 and one of them came over here with his business laptop and he had a Windows

7:58 update hit him while he was here and it bricked his Windows i don't remember the

8:02 exact details but he had to rush here in the morning and borrow a computer in a

8:06 flash drive so he could get Windows onto a flash drive so he could completely

8:10 reformat everything so he could keep working microsoft genuinely earned the reputation that they have and they

8:14 earned the people that will put up with this nonsense from apple just to escape

8:17 it i completely understand it well i've had two systems completely fail on

8:20 update to the point to where it was the system was completely unstable and i i

8:24 remember getting Windows vista with a new machine where when it first came out

8:28 you couldn't even run programs without running an update you would just try to

8:31 open a new browser and it would just sit there and then 20 minutes later it would

8:35 open yeah there's a i don't know

8:38 really bad my what my computer was one of the

8:41 admittedly i guess probably over the overall spectrum of the amount of people

8:45 that had this happen to them not that high percentage but my computer was one of the ones that when they forced the

8:49 upgrade to Windows 10 i wasn't even at home i had denied the upgrade so many

8:53 times then i was at work and while i was at work my computer upgraded from

8:57 Windows 7 to Windows 10 and bricked itself that was when they implemented the like click here now before this

9:01 countdown's gone if you don't want it yeah because they knew people were leaving their systems on walking away

9:05 going to work yeah whatever you come back suddenly in mid update and i had

9:08 even ran the scripts that are supposed to stop it but then they'd release some

9:12 update that would get around that and it was just very frustrating i one thing i've

9:16 enjoyed this entire conversation uh is that wendell has been almost silent

9:22 if wendell hasn't said anything yet we're not wrong

9:26 well no yeah okay yeah i agree with that but it's just the Linux man it's just

9:30 like Linux uh there are systems that i have

9:34 that have up times of like 600 days which is actually really bad because

9:37 there are kernel updates and security updates and stuff like that so those

9:41 machines are potentially a typhoid mary but yeah 600 days of uptime

9:45 yeah i like running Windows in a virtual machine because then it's

9:49 it's like oh look Windows update itself i can just hit a button and it's like oh

9:52 look it's the way that it was yesterday nice try microsoft you failed one of the

9:57 things we're actually working on back in my studio right now is um he landed on

10:01 my hand right now so we're gonna we're gonna get him okay okay um he's back we

10:04 will actually we're actually gonna do some rollbacks and force updates we're

10:08 gonna do comparative benchmarks to see how much it actually impacts your system

10:12 both high end and low end because there's times we're doing benchmarks and we're like what the heck suddenly

10:16 something's weird like we start going you know really super stuttery or

10:19 something we realize like oh look a background process update's happening

10:23 it's eating 25 percent of our resources yeah anatec ran into that with their um

10:27 their zen plus coverage yeah um the like

10:31 rise of the tomb raider and a whole bunch of games were running as good or slightly better on AMD than

10:36 Intel and it was because they had the high precision timer which reading and

10:40 writing from hardware registers triggers the meltdown spectrum mitigations more i

10:44 guess yeah so depending on what you're doing you could have a significant reduction in

10:48 performance right it's an interesting situation uh do you

10:52 want to talk a little bit about not too much because we got a video to release

10:56 but you want to talk a little bit about what you're doing here with Anthony it was exciting

11:00 yeah i spent i spent monday and tuesday with Anthony doing Linux stuff and it's

11:05 Linux on gaming gaming on Linux and so we look at native Linux on gaming which

11:09 is pretty cool basically works and then gaming through wrappers like wine and

11:15 all the various flavors of that running 12 different versions of wine at the same time easily

11:19 and then finally virtualization and the horizon for doing everything through a

11:23 virtual machine and not really sacrificing anything in terms of performance so i'm really looking

11:27 forward to that that'll be really good we'll have companion guides and stuff on the forum for

11:31 like really nitty gritty step by step if you want to do fedora or ubuntu or you

11:35 know arch or whatever and everything he just said is why we were talking earlier

11:40 about how apple is sometimes more uh easily accessible

11:45 like 12 different versions of wine uh yeah oh so you're writing a game for mac

11:49 well you're going to have to do the metal API sorry

11:52 it's gotten a lot better now like compared to let's say 15 years ago if you wanted to do a digital audio

11:56 workstation Linux was terrible for it but it's gotten a lot better yeah it's

12:00 not you know yeah it's still got some rough edges i

12:04 extremely rarely uh do do the hip things

12:07 and go to clubs and stuff but uh the only time i ever will is for one

12:11 of my friends and on his birthday and we went to one place and i noticed that the

12:15 dj had a giant MSI laptop with an art full RGB keyboard

12:21 and stuff and i was even thinking like that's just like weird

12:24 like i took a photo because i was like oh it's cool yeah usually but it's it's usually a macbook and even

12:29 just it was one of the like thick ones because it had the i believe it was one

12:33 of the mechanical keyboard ones so like this is huge yeah it's a massive massive

12:38 cumbersome laptop that he brings to shows

12:41 i firmly believe that this like we want laptops to stand as paper i don't think

12:44 that a lot of consumers really want that i think consumers like thin and light

12:48 but i think if you tell a consumer hey you can get five more years out of this

12:51 machine if it's got a replaceable keyboard and it's just a hair thicker

12:55 that doesn't seem unreasonable you've talked about this a bunch with phones uh

12:58 not to admit that i watch a huge amount of your content and have since way before i made videos but um you're

13:04 talking about how you see a lot of reviewers review a phone and it's different than consumers

13:09 looking at a phone yeah because thickness plastic backs all that kind of stuff there's this big disconnect when i

13:13 read a review and then when i talk to people who come in and say what they want on a phone just well you know let's

13:17 say we're fixing somebody's phone we can have a 15-minute conversation i've never

13:21 heard a normal person that i've met in real life talk about the bezel of a

13:25 phone every single reviewer they'll spend two or three paragraphs talking

13:29 about the bezel and like you know how it goes out to the end and now we find no

13:32 casing at all i've never heard somebody talk about that or care you know in real

13:36 life they think you know it would be nice if i drop my phone from here to

13:39 hear that it not break they don't care about the bezel or they'll say the back

13:42 is made of premium materials but the regular person will say i can see

13:45 fingerprints that's ugly yeah or they're going to stick it in the case anyway

13:49 yeah and it has to you know like a phone like this has to go in a case because it's it'll crack if i go from here to

13:54 here yeah and the back of it looks nice but if i actually touch it you can feel

13:58 the only thing i care about with bezel is whether or not it's slippery but

14:01 without a case yeah and the things are getting more slick over time you know

14:04 and that's that's always bugged me but other than that's why you don't really see

14:07 phone reviews on my channel because i'm one of those people that just don't care about any of that yeah if you sold the

14:11 phone imagine if you i think that if you put it in a bullet point two years from

14:16 now it will still work the battery can be replaced and it's not gonna slow down

14:19 too terribly that somebody may actually consider buying it over something else

14:23 you know you have an extra eighth of a millimeter but you can replace the

14:27 battery i have a lg g5 for just that reason it's you know ancient by today's

14:31 standards but removable battery and metal back and still has a fingerprint

14:35 sensor and it's not like super heavy and i see a lot of people say yeah but in two years you're going to get a new

14:39 phone anyway it's okay you may get a new phone anyway in two years but somebody

14:42 that doesn't want to spend an extra two or four hundred dollars isn't it yeah i think i used to be i'm sorry i didn't i

14:48 used to be an annual upgrader but not anymore like i'll go i'll go two years

14:52 plus and usually the only thing that will make me upgrade is if i start seeing battery degradation that's only

14:57 because i've been on iphone for the longest time now it's because it's super simple and that's only because it's not

15:01 easy to service battery swaps you know for an average end user i think so i

15:06 think that design kind of peaked around probably the galaxy s3

15:10 because removable battery upgradable storage and it still had a plastic back

15:14 yeah and there were cases for that you could replace the back like you got you

15:18 could take the back off and have like a leather back if you wanted to well and

15:21 when i was still working in it we had an entire fleet of s3s out there and you

15:25 could do the extended battery with the extended back cover you know we were sending those out into the field yeah i

15:29 don't i don't know why that went out of vote yeah a lot of people said well the battery life on modern phones is good

15:34 enough that you don't need a second battery to get through the day but that totally ignores that

15:37 yeah after it's not even that that's not even the issue so much as it is one year

15:41 or two years later when it barely has any battery life i want i'm going to keep this thing for longer than two

15:46 years no reason to buy it and i think more

15:49 people would buy it if you actually advertise that and i haven't seen anybody advertise longevity as a feature

15:55 no but it could be one thing in twitch chat i posted a poll uh because i'm i'm

16:00 interested on the exact percentages at least for our audience which is a

16:04 terrible uh section if we want to be scientific but whatever i want to see

16:08 the exact percentages of people that care about ultra thin bezels so check

16:11 straw poll in the chat and uh s3 specifically i have one interesting

16:16 story with that that ties into what you're talking about with it should be able to fall right

16:20 i was i was at university and i was late for class so i was sprinting and i ran

16:25 down a huge set of steps and i had too much momentum and there was one of those like uh poles that stopped cars from

16:30 going into areas so i decided i'll just hop over it and i jump and i remember

16:34 that my as i'm mid-air remember that my phone is in my sweater pocket not in my

16:38 jeans pocket it goes flying smacks into

16:41 the ground the battery goes one way the bat goes the other way the rest of the

16:44 phone goes the other way tiny chip in the corner put everything back together

16:47 turn it back on works perfectly what phone was that s3 seriously that was a

16:51 hard phone to break yeah and like i think one of the things that actually

16:54 helps is that it kind of explodes and it like says it's i can't remember

16:58 the correct terminology for it but the force of the impact goes with each part

17:02 and lets it blow out the s3 one of the earlier gorilla glass yeah

17:07 yeah yeah when that actually meant something yeah before they kept making the grill gas

17:11 thinner which then just made it as brittle as anything else yeah yeah well

17:14 the with the g5 where it's got the replaceable battery and still kind of

17:17 modern i've replaced the battery in it twice yeah i mean it was basically a

17:22 launch day phone and it's you just slide it out and slide a new battery in it's

17:25 eight bucks from china yeah yeah that's the other thing you can get those

17:28 batteries so cheap if you buy them third-party so the the poll results for

17:32 people that didn't click on results when they ended is about 78 of people do not

17:37 care about ultra thin bezels and 28 well

17:40 i guess yeah 22 percent of people do that's the audience about people

17:43 watching a tech in tech review channel yeah yeah

17:46 so it's skewed but i don't necessarily know in what

17:50 direction it's still it's such a high percentage that like we've seen it

17:53 though we've seen these early polls you let them go for five minutes or five days it tends to

17:58 whatever like the first few minutes ratio it won't change a ton

18:01 yeah it will generally stay there yeah yeah so like i and well the thing is if

18:06 you if you expose that pole to a much different audience yeah it might shift

18:10 it a bit more but i i kind of doubt it i i've had a

18:14 similar experience i'm sure you've talked to more people about it but i've had a similar experience talking to just

18:17 friends and family yeah like what would you want in a phone i remember reading

18:21 so many phone reviews for this and i saw one eli the computer guy clip of a video

18:24 very you know with his 500 camera pointing at it saying this is me loading

18:29 google maps this is it not lagging and i just thought sold yeah cause that's all

18:33 i really care about the things that i do every day when i go to you know hell and

18:36 uber is it going to take forever when i want to scroll around is it going to

18:39 take forever is the does the battery last you know things like that with

18:43 phones these days that can like play

18:46 relatively decent uh graphic fidelity games at relatively decent frame rates

18:51 like they can probably open uber and google

18:54 maps relatively i just feel like we've progressed so far in the mobile

18:58 computing uh biologies and the passings are like the early days of smartphones

19:02 back when i had my blackberry storm and and the droid one was out and the the

19:06 iphone 3 and 3g or 3gs you know it's like

19:09 back then it was a big deal like this one scroll smoother where the Android

19:12 was choppy and stuff where obviously there was big variants between the

19:15 devices but now everything's so damn close yeah it's really hard to

19:19 differentiate a winner it really comes down to the to the interface i think the

19:23 interface battle is the thing that keeps Android iphone and then i think like i'm

19:28 surprised blackberry is even still around but the only other person i've met that had a storm that was i had a

19:33 storm because you feel about the first generation storm it was terrible

19:38 i never used i never used the uh because i think i had a physical keyboard too if

19:42 i remember correctly that was no that there was no physical that was the one that clicked that's right it had the the

19:47 click like the whole screen yeah but it only had one button in the middle right

19:50 as you got further out to the edge you got weaker a little bit more detail

19:54 i got it because i mean i was on verizon and we didn't have any other options at

19:57 the time yeah you know iphone obviously didn't come to verizon until the the 4s

20:00 was out and then um it lagged so badly

20:04 right and then seven minutes so as soon as the droid one the original droid came

20:07 out i replaced the blackberry with that um and then i carried both iphone and

20:12 samsung at work for quite a while so i've got a very unique perspective of at

20:16 least back in 2013 what it was like to

20:19 be a dual wielder you know yeah yeah i never had any experience on the other

20:23 side of the road back then but i remember when like the first Android butter update came out that like that

20:28 was the biggest deal i had seen in a while because it massively i think was

20:32 like one of the first ones i was on oh yeah yeah yeah okay you know what phone

20:36 was massively underrated was the uh last generation t-mobile sidekick

20:41 i heard a lot of people really liked it yeah it ran java which is like you would

20:44 think it would be a pile of garbage because java especially in those days

20:47 because that was before Android but the thing with the phone is that if it

20:51 does what you want it to do really well that it's a really good phone it doesn't

20:55 need to be a status symbol the sidekick was kind of like it looked like a toy

20:59 but had a good keyboard and the screen was decent but it also had a color lcd

21:03 that was reflective so you're not going to get like photorealistic color but you

21:07 could get color and so the battery life would last forever like days

21:12 because it wasn't actually having a backlight unless it was dark outside you

21:16 mentioned status symbol too here's a here's a straw poll it might be interesting how many people choose a

21:20 phone based on it being an accessory or a status thing

21:25 yeah right because i i think a lot of people choose their phone based on where

21:28 people gonna think of my phone i think it's kind of sad but i feel like there's a good percentage of people that care

21:33 about that how many people are gonna admit to that though probably very few

21:37 it's not really much of a problem anymore but there was a there was a

21:40 while there where like the the pricey phones couldn't connect to like

21:45 corporate email and stuff like that properly and so i was on the receiving end of that and it's like you need to

21:49 get this phone or this phone if you wanted to work properly with your email system and they're like i'm gonna buy

21:53 this because it looks like i'm wealthy and it's just that was one of the

21:56 reasons why i had the blackberry to begin with because when i was working in software at the time in our it

22:00 department um we had you know all of our own mail servers and stuff it wasn't

22:03 through standard pop or any of that stuff so it was the phone that could connect to

22:06 it um but i'll be the first to admit that one of the reasons why i got iphone back

22:11 when it first came to verizon was simply because it was something i couldn't get

22:15 before and suddenly i could and everyone had it and i wanted it because of that

22:19 and i literally it's just stayed with it ever since because i got used to it and

22:23 i'm comfortable i'm not really a mobile power user and i don't need well nothing

22:27 crazy but iphone 4 it was not completely unusable but the iphone one that didn't

22:31 have copy paste i just can't imagine that world yeah see i joined long after that

22:35 obviously but speaking of not being able to imagine that world uh we'll start from over here

22:40 and go across what was your favorite phone

22:43 like at that point in time i guess at that point in time i think the htc

22:47 incredible in 2010 because the other Android phones were slow and clunky i

22:50 was coming from a blackberry storm so six minute boot time opening browser

22:54 takes a minute every time you do something it stutters and i got that phone and when i would tap something it

22:58 just opened immediately there was no lag i'm sure if i upgraded to a new version

23:02 of Android with it or a newer i shouldn't say new yeah

23:05 and it also actually fit in your hand comfortably right very few phones will

23:08 fit in my hand comfortably now because they're large just really big yeah Linus yeah Linus

23:14 has a similar problem to that he likes uh old iphones because they're much

23:18 smaller what about you i've never had a phone that i like for more than six

23:21 months like it'll it's okay for six months and then with the software updates and

23:25 whatever i'm doing to it it starts to run really bad okay what phone had the

23:29 best six month period then probably the t-mobile sidekick yeah like the very

23:33 last generation one because you could really quickly but switch between a

23:36 bunch of tasks the web browsing wasn't terrible instant messaging wasn't

23:40 terrible email was pretty good there was a there was one device before

23:44 that that was like really it was a little before that arrows the there was

23:48 like a motorola pager thing it was not a phone that thing was awesome i don't

23:53 remember what it was i had that before i had a cell phone and that was like because then people

23:57 couldn't call me it was great i uh mine would probably be my s3 i'm

24:03 going to be easy basically that story yeah um s3 was awesome

24:08 the thing was a tank i had it for so long i think it still works

24:12 we got close it's on your shoe i know um we i had that phone for a very very

24:17 long time i hit him did you see it hit the ground and he spiraled and he came back up you won't actually hit him

24:22 you've got him but he's not dead he spiraled and he keep flew back up i think we're at one

24:26 level he's gonna get sucked into that machine and be on one of the fans with all the friends

24:31 you guys can't see that but that that uh that fangirl is pretty nice

24:34 yeah he's right there there's another over there wait there's another one yeah there's two there's

24:38 three i was so excited i felt like my leg was

24:41 gonna be the death platform for this fly and i was i was stoked uh but yeah my s3

24:46 what about you i really liked the s3 just because it was a good size

24:49 improvement but i don't want to copy your answer so probably my original

24:52 droid because i i actually played around back then with a lot of rooting

24:56 different roms actually wrote it my own soundboard app

25:00 back then for like playing my daughter's first words and i wrote that for my wife

25:04 so she could have it on her phone and so it was a lot of fun um

25:08 but then i think back then obviously there was a lot of limitations to their

25:12 first moto droid and battery life kind of sucked and early Android wasn't as smooth it was

25:17 clunky it took them like a year to make touch wiz not a giant polygon

25:22 right but my problem with the samsung phones was the amount of bloatware they came with yeah so that drives me nuts

25:27 yeah i've never i've i've that's one reason why i'm on a pixel right now it's

25:31 just the stock experience is always preferred for me most most other phones

25:35 that i've had i've tried as hard as i possibly can to revert it to a

25:39 stock-based experience i do not like any

25:42 of the custom uis i don't like any of that kind of stuff it's all it's all

25:45 garbage this phone's too amazing let's crap it up boys yeah

25:49 i don't think i've never seen somebody ask you know say i would like this phone

25:53 to run slower please add your own software to it yeah you've never seen

25:56 anybody ask for the bixby i would like a little bit more lag well it's kind of

25:59 like it's kind of like laptops now we're like MSI is notorious for a crap ton of

26:03 dashboards and bloatware and stuff you know it's like you get rid of all that stuff it's a good experience but

26:06 otherwise when you work in a shop that sells not necessarily a pair

26:12 repair shop but when you work in a shop that sells laptops and one of your main

26:15 services is making them not junk out of the box that's that's like a weird weird

26:20 place to be we have poll results for the the question not surprising um i don't

26:26 think it's true at all

26:29 oh yeah definitely most people are lying well it might be a little bit of lying

26:34 it might be a little bit of subconscious shifting where you've decided that you

26:38 want that phone because of status anyways and you'll justify it because of performance or future reasons

26:43 and i think probably the strongest factor is that the audience that we have

26:48 well there's smartphone mvt right if you have a crappy phone the guy next to you

26:51 pulls out the latest version you're kind of like oh right i want that and the same thing if you got the latest one you

26:55 kind of want to be like everyone look at my phone you know i mean because it's

26:58 it's sad but it really is like an accessory yeah yeah yeah but like again with our

27:03 audience though it's it's a bunch of pc performance freaks i'm not that

27:07 surprised that pc performance freaks want high performance and high feature

27:12 phones if we did this survey across everyone

27:16 on the planet and everyone answered honestly i bet you status would probably

27:20 be higher than anything else probably but with this audience and with natural

27:24 skewing i'm not surprised it was 95 would people really admit that because

27:28 then they have to admit to themselves i spent an extra 400 for status and that's

27:32 not a pill that i think most people would swallow

27:36 yeah it's it's it's an interesting question like the do you buy things for

27:42 for like like functionality over aesthetic or aesthetic over

27:45 functionality i think a lot of people will say that they buy something for

27:49 functionality but they might even be buying the aesthetic of functionality if

27:54 that makes sense if something looks like it's highly functional then they want

27:57 that thing it's it's a really interesting mind game scenario because

28:01 you might be convincing yourself of something and not even realizing there's a

28:04 there's a dimension of that that's sort of uh related which is

28:10 taking your customizations and your settings and stuff and that has always

28:13 been like if you spend a lot of time customizing your phone or customizing

28:17 whatever it is to make it exactly just so you will be punished because every

28:20 time there's an update or every time you switch phones it is super difficult to

28:24 get all those customizations from one device to another and it shouldn't be

28:28 yeah that's one of the few things i liked about apple's operating system is that when you use migration assistant

28:32 and time machine it just copies everything every app even the

28:36 settings within your applications will get all even your third-party

28:39 applications all get copied over perfectly it's really one of the reasons why i stayed on excuse me iOS for so

28:44 long was simply because new phone copy from previous backup you know

28:49 restore up and running and everything's exactly how i left it i don't even use

28:52 the ecosystem i don't have a watch i don't have an air i don't have an apple

28:55 or what's the apple tv thing i don't have anything i have no other part of the

28:59 ecosystem i even have a macbook but even they aren't connected yeah yeah

29:02 microsoft really screwed the pooch with the registry because the registry was

29:06 supposed to be that and also your application data folder and like theoretically you can move that between

29:10 machines but in reality you can't it ends badly every time yeah

29:15 you can copy certain features of certain applications but not everything and you

29:18 have to reinstall the applications yourself i noticed that when when you

29:22 upgrade to a new phone new device right it doesn't save the apps or anything it

29:26 saves the app data and then re-downloads the apps fresh and then re repopulates

29:29 the data yeah which before it used to be like you said a direct copy which was

29:34 even i believe in the earlier days was even copying the battery data which was making new batteries perform like four

29:38 batteries because of that efficiency scale yeah so i did notice that when i

29:42 upgraded this one yeah that was one of the worst things like uh

29:46 working in a like computer shop and you'd be doing

29:49 services and you someone would buy a new computer and they'd want a data transfer

29:53 and i try to because i tried to be at least somewhat honest i would try to explain to them

29:58 this is pretty easy to do on your own but if they wanted it anyways sure

30:01 whatever sounds good and you go to do it and then you have to tell them that they

30:04 can't bring any of their programs and there's just that kind of

30:08 that's a 20-minute conversation and there's like this ratio where like as

30:12 the customer is older the conversation is longer yeah yeah yeah

30:16 there's yeah and then you have to explain well you have to remember your own wi-fi password and you'll have to do

30:20 this and that because we do data recovery and sometimes we can recover it

30:23 to where you can do a you can use migration assistant when you

30:27 get older programs and sometimes you can't and i'm just copying your data

30:30 folder from here to here and a lot of people even if i explain to them you

30:33 have to reinstall your programs your settings will not be the same when they

30:36 show up they go where's my where's my stuff yeah wait it's all in this folder

30:41 i'm like yeah your music is in the music folder okay but where's the library

30:47 and it's like well no it's in there you just got a little bite

30:51 and it's just i mean yeah i've had people actually break down with tears

30:55 because they didn't remember their email password yeah your email password was in

30:59 the i'm like i can't get you that it's like

31:02 yeah and the email password's an interesting one too because one of the biggest things is

31:07 is uh like they won't have a password manager they won't have written their

31:11 passwords down which i guess that's good but they won't know how to log into

31:14 anything yeah and it's just like it's

31:18 painful carrying those sessions over would be super nice yeah what they're

31:21 paying for is not for you to transfer the data they're paying for the half hour conversation you're going to have

31:25 about every single program yeah yeah there's some people that it's it's literally it's just not even worth

31:30 uh upgrading the computer because they would just lose all their stuff yeah

31:33 it's like okay well i guess i'll deal with a slow terrible experience because

31:37 it's better than losing all my programs and all my settings and

31:40 all my logins and all that kind of thing yeah and that especially winds up being true in broadcast or in the music

31:44 business because people will have certain plugins and if you upgrade to a

31:48 new operating system they won't they won't work anymore and you'll have to find alternatives or this program like

31:52 once they get a rig that works it works and they just they want to keep it as is

31:55 and that stuff can cost a lot like a new operating system will mess up this is

32:00 always used to happen with os 10 in pro tools new os pro tools wouldn't work

32:03 right or it's just that stuff can be a nightmare for people

32:06 yeah the copy protection they bury things

32:10 somewhere on the system uh and sometimes it's just a software

32:13 compatibility thing both of those things are terrible

32:17 what is it like on Linux because i've never actually tried every single Linux

32:22 version that i've had has been full pure from scratch every time so that's a

32:26 that's an interesting question i've never tried to migrate from machines

32:29 mostly it's okay so like i have um i have a file that

32:34 customizes the command line and provides some aliases and shortcuts

32:38 and stuff like that and i've been working on that for 20 years and i've never lost it and it's great and it's

32:42 just like the best thing ever so it's like literally 20 years of preferences

32:46 in that file other stuff that's the most Linux thing i've ever heard

32:51 other stuff not so good like other stuff the migration is a little bit more of a

32:54 pain one of the things that ubuntu has done

32:58 recently is they have this thing called snaps and so because you you like you

33:02 have this version of this library that this program needs and you need a

33:05 slightly different version of that library for some older program that can

33:09 be problematic to run those combinations of things and so one of the things that

33:13 snaps does for you is that it packages all of your dependencies inside this

33:17 file which uses more space but makes it aware that you have to worry about being

33:21 able to run those things less so in terms of like i want to migrate all my programs and just be able

33:26 to run it with those kinds of technologies generally you're a lot more

33:29 successful but like a lot of the things with like caden live caden live is a

33:33 great example because we get lots of support requests for caden live on our forum cadenlab is a great program but 90

33:39 of the problems with caden live not actually caden live it's the libraries there are bugs in the libraries and so

33:43 you can have audio sync issues and things like that and that is just the

33:47 libraries on the system and so snaps can help with stuff like that on ubuntu cool

33:51 and other technologies on other distros can help with that so

33:54 it's very user respecting but it's still not quite

33:58 as slick of a solution as it could be right i am going to

34:03 take this slight intermission to do

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35:02 tips there we go uh next up we've got savage jerky which we have a box of beef

35:07 jerky here so you guys don't have to talk but if you want free beef jerky um

35:12 just go ahead and i'm in the original oh i ended up with cabernet this is not

35:16 good you can get a different one if you had the habanero or the mojo habanero

35:20 earlier wasn't that bad what happened yeah that's what three or four is it uh

35:24 i don't remember we're gonna go for a nice safe teriyaki there you go are we gonna try this now

35:29 you can if you want i don't care you can also just take it home if you want it

35:32 doesn't really matter uh their jerky is made with the best ingredients without

35:36 nitrates or preservatives their goal is to create a snack that is full of flavor

35:39 and spice that isn't bad for you they've got 13 different flavors of jerky we've

35:43 got which one is this teriyaki and

35:46 original here um well teriyaki is pretty

35:49 good yeah teriyaki

35:53 my favorite one is mojo jalapeno if i remember correctly

35:57 um that one's that one's actually pretty good they have sauces which i don't

36:01 think we've shown on the show before but this one is reaper hot sauce so that's

36:04 made with carolina reaper careful with that one and then this one is mojo

36:08 jalapeno so that's my favorite jerky and now they have a sauce for it so that's

36:12 pretty cool um original is my fiber

36:15 it's pretty good there you go use offer code LTT to save 10 off on all of their

36:20 products at savage jerky.com and then the last sponsor i

36:25 really wonder what the notes are for this it's in all capital letters it says it's

36:30 going to be dope it's tomorrow july 14th get your tickets now we will have

36:34 tickets at the door but the quantity will be limited smiley face ltx expo.com

36:40 uh so yeah if you live like within range of richmond bc um and you weren't

36:46 already planning to come to ltx come come hang out it's gonna be awesome

36:49 there's gonna be people there

36:52 i don't know i don't know if there are badges you want a badge i want a badge

36:56 we'll make you a badge yeah we'll make sure you get a badge you don't need a mattress

37:01 start playing the badger the only video and

37:05 10 hours of badger that's it no more no more sponsory stuff

37:10 um i'm still gonna enjoy your sponsor for a minute oh do it go ahead yeah i've

37:13 done that for the entire rest of the show sometimes before are you gonna be at ltx are you coming cool yeah yeah

37:19 cool i wasn't sure he's gonna offer to break your iphone and then fix it

37:22 oh boy i don't have an iphone or anyone now i want to go get one because that

37:26 would be cool

37:29 he'll smash your screen and replace it on site nice that would be great are you

37:33 doing something at a booth are you just kind of wandering around

37:36 i wasn't even informed uh anyone sitting here was going to be here until like the

37:41 beginning of this week and then i only knew you were going to be here until today so i'm actually quite excited we

37:46 talked about that earlier i actually knew for three months yeah

37:51 communication around these parts is just absolutely fantastic yeah i just thought

37:55 i knew how to open or close an imac oh

38:00 was that his whole okay i told him like yeah you realize i've had employees to

38:03 like put those back together for the past five years

38:08 you don't know how to open or close this and i used to

38:11 figure it out yeah i'll just grab the board and go blink and he goes

38:17 and then the whole thing started chipping that was about oh yeah when i was just oh i don't think it's fitting

38:21 and i'm like yeah let me just push it hard

38:24 no spoilers but i legit got anxiety watching you guys work on that imac i

38:27 turned around and sat down on the wall like i didn't even like i was out of

38:32 eyesight because i was getting anxious watching i gave him the same service

38:35 that would give every customer

38:39 that's the uh that's the best ad i think i've ever heard no i've had like a store

38:44 manager come to me and say can you stop like showing us reading the letters that

38:47 customers write on screen because i'll be sitting there fixing a board and i'll

38:50 go oh this Thunderbolt doesn't look viewing or the other usb circuit looks

38:54 messed that we can always put that stuff back on later you don't really need that

38:57 and i'm saying it's kind of a joke because i'm going to get rid of that circuit and i'll put it back on once it

39:01 turns on but there'll be people watching going oh my god what is he doing to my

39:04 board they don't call them and say is that my word on the screen that you just ripped all that stuff off

39:10 you should know what you were getting

39:15 that's fantastic why is everyone spamming numbers i don't understand

39:19 i'm just going to mass ban people oh some people type f i don't know what that's terrible either that is f is pay

39:24 respects right yeah yeah people keep doing this so that's a that's a call of

39:28 duty meme where uh you you like walk up to i believe

39:33 they're lowering the coffin of your like friend into the ground you're your

39:36 friend and fellow soldier um and you

39:40 like you have to press f on your keyboard type r for respect

39:44 what is f i think f is just like it's like an easy macro key so if your

39:48 fingers are on like what yeah you can well usually the two interact keys on

39:51 the game on a computer yeah i've never played

39:56 oh everyone's spanning f i thought everyone was doing numbers and i was like all right i'm just going to go

39:59 start banning people but you know what f is okay is it because the stream died

40:04 no it's just not showing here this is oh okay yeah

40:07 my eyes aren't great so i'm like trying to monitor the chat from here you have good enough internet that you could

40:11 watch your own stream while you're streaming it that's on two different devices oh yeah you're experiencing new

40:15 york internet i'm so sorry if somebody if i play the stream while i'm watching

40:19 it i'll get dropped frames this guy from rush actually maybe a little plug-in for

40:22 open broadcast or it'll say this many frames stolen by time warner with a

40:25 little logo and it'll go up and it matches the open broadcast account why

40:29 is internet in new york pat oh it's real bad it's right we've done news stories

40:33 on it it's so controlled it's such like there's so many little agreements from

40:37 all the little isps there that they don't compete with one another that

40:40 there's basically no service or infrastructure upgrades last 15 20 years

40:44 you either have verizon dsl in my location which is three megabit down and

40:48 point seven megabit up for or you get uh

40:51 time warner which is 20 megabit up half the time for 409 plus tax the hotel i'm

40:56 staying at the hotel i'm staying at enrichment right now gives me 0.6 down 0.1 up oh i

41:00 went to upload a video today using the connection upstairs and i thought oh it

41:04 says six minutes remaining i must have uploaded the wrong file

41:07 audio by itself and it's like no that's 18 gigabytes and it says six minutes

41:11 remaining it's like at home and it'll say yeah 14 hours your video will be

41:14 yeah wow that's weird because like we have i couldn't operate

41:18 australia is horrible for internet and i've been learning that doing the flow

41:22 plane stuff that i've been doing speaking of which sponsorspot Floatplane.com heck yeah scrappy awards

41:26 this weekend okay i'm done um but uh

41:29 it's like even just getting servers like renting a server in australia is

41:33 ludicrously expensive because the internet's so crazy expensive and canada

41:37 has uh a similar problem of one of the problems

41:41 that australia has which is large landmass not a ton of people they also

41:45 have the problem of being kind of isolated and kind of off the main path

41:48 of most of the undersea cables but uh canada's problem were all extremely

41:53 spread out we all of canada has less population than just the state of

41:56 california and then a massive country so you put

42:00 those two together and it's not a really great combination luckily we're all

42:04 mostly nestled in these like cities that dot around the country so like vancouver

42:08 itself does pretty well this place has 1000 down 1 000 up uh my house

42:14 my like random suburbia house has fiber

42:17 uh 150 down 150 up

42:20 and i pay significantly less than you do

42:24 409 a month is like it's 4.67

42:27 409 a month for what 460 after time it's 20 megabit up 300 megabit down but the

42:32 20 megabit up it's like sometimes 20 sometimes 10 sometimes five sometimes i

42:36 actually had to get verizon dsl along with the time warner because the

42:40 time warner goes down so often that i got a pfsense router that will

42:44 automatically switch over to the hundred dollar a month verizon dsl when it dies

42:47 so that i can still process credit cards wow that's pretty typical for new york

42:51 yeah so i expect the time warner that costs 409 a month to go down often

42:55 enough that it's worth it to have another connection like me my studio is

42:58 in the greater la area and i've got 300 by 300 fiber for 99.

43:04 it's pretty yeah i'm paying i believe it's 99 uh but

43:08 i had like a signing bonus lowered for a temporary period of time thing for a

43:13 while now uh for my one there's a new construction

43:16 a little bit like 30 minutes south of where i live and there were big old

43:20 billboards as they were like you know getting the land ready that it's going

43:24 to be it was a fiber community or gigabit community

43:27 and it's like it was like 59 bucks a month the other thing is uh on the

43:31 commercial side so like a lot of commercial internet is often much worse

43:35 than residential internet at the lower tier just because vra's in the time

43:39 warner in those companies they want at least twenty five hundred dollars a month for the internet connection even

43:43 if the companies like and they try and guarantee that ninety nine point nine percent up time which is absolutely

43:49 pg with something yeah

43:55 yeah i've had to put a sign up on the door enough time to say cash only no

43:58 internet yeah that is so aggravating when you know that you're spending over 450 dollars on

44:03 internet i'm going to say with both of those internet connections that's insane

44:06 oh right uh is this

44:09 local to ltx only or can you buy this stuff online

44:15 can you buy it online no no none of it

44:19 okay so if you're watching this and are going to be at ltx nice little combo you

44:23 can get a TechLinked pin an ltx lanyard which has like uh some

44:29 actually pretty cool graphics and stuff on it and a little quick disconnect thing at the back oh my um

44:34 this shirt which i've never seen before

44:38 oh yeah i have this is pretty cool this is just like a straight up Linus

44:42 tech tips shirt uh

44:46 what no notice there's guys oh okay okay okay this one's one of my favorite i

44:51 don't really understand why we did this but i think it's awesome

44:55 it's it's one of the editors uh so this is one of the editors dennis just

45:00 making a face on a shirt it's great i i personally love it but i

45:04 can understand how uh some people might think it's a little a little funky uh

45:09 then i think we just have two other yeah these this is the Linus tech tips like

45:13 circuit logo shirt so there's basically different earlier edition graphics being given out

45:18 or being sold to ltx i believe so yeah this is another one of the circuit

45:22 designs um i thought there was another shirt as well but that might have been

45:26 only for the vip people i'm not really sure uh but yeah you can buy cool shirts

45:32 at ltx uh if you are watching this and

45:35 going to be there and didn't notice that you could buy shirts

45:39 and happen to see this there we go best ad spot ever

45:44 yeah um what was i going to say next one thing

45:48 that i wanted to get through and i think we we might have time is because i always

45:52 find this quite interesting and we'll again actually we'll switch it we'll go

45:55 from this way over uh what got you into

45:59 computers and technology in general my dad my dad after the military he was a

46:03 project manager and he was one of the he was one of the first

46:07 i don't say pioneers but he was a vp a senior vp for a company that was

46:12 building mainframes and and doing you know crazy old-school tape drive backups

46:16 and stuff and he basically talked to the company was like guys we need to get off

46:19 the mainframe and we need to get into computer uh project management

46:24 computer-based stuff pc stuff and this was back in like

46:27 80 and they didn't listen to him and of course

46:31 that company went belly up because they were one of the leaders in the mainframe and everyone was getting off the

46:34 mainframe and but he uh so when when that happened he ended up going to

46:38 business for himself writing project management software and from my

46:43 earliest memories i was always on his lap while he was on the computer doing

46:46 his thing and he had no that he said the best thing he ever did for me was when i

46:50 would try and touch the computer he never was like no no don't touch don't touch he was always like he would save

46:54 his work and just be like have fun just type away and mash on the keyboard so he

46:58 never once told me i couldn't touch anything right so i've always done that

47:02 with my kids it's kind of gone you know three generations or two

47:07 generations at this point now my youngest daughter now is she's three and

47:10 a half and showing interest in the computer which is i think is fantastic sure um so yeah it was it was just my

47:16 dad and that was just life was computers and

47:20 as long as i remember so it's that simple i think i've told my story a

47:24 million times so i'll i'll do a very brief version of it uh but i i just

47:28 wanted to play diablo and the computer stopped working so i learned how to fix

47:32 it so i could keep playing diablo um and it's gone from there uh there's there's

47:37 longer versions but you've probably heard a million times it's i i don't really i mean i don't

47:42 really know where to start there was i find yours kind of interesting because you were like super in the middle of

47:45 nowhere right yeah i was i was super in the the the first event

47:50 really that led to that was uh there was this old guy and well i was sort of

47:55 bored in school and they were trying to figure out how to deal with that because

47:59 it was like kindergarten or first grade or something and there was an old guy

48:03 visiting from the stevens institute and he's like all right let's figure this

48:06 out so we set up an apple ii to with like a wooden break to measure

48:11 your reaction time when like you hit the thing it would it was like a basic

48:15 program that would run and tell you what your reaction time was for like breaking in a car and so he walked me through

48:20 soldering wires into something inside the apple ii and then writing a program

48:25 on the apple ii and doing all the stuff and i was like i have to learn more and so when you were in kindergarten in

48:29 grade one i was very young yeah that's quite because that's a project because i

48:32 like took everything apart i got in trouble for taking apart like the tv

48:35 yeah in school which is what led to that

48:40 okay i was i needed a machine to work on some

48:44 sessions in logic pro and the studio that i was working at it closed down so

48:48 i bought a macbook because i was broke used on ebay and it arrived broken i got

48:52 a discount on it so i bought uh the screen that i needed to fix it and then

48:56 when i didn't need it anymore i sold it and i realized i made a profit of two or

48:59 three hundred dollars so i thought let me do this again so i was buying and reselling them for a month or two then i

49:04 wanted to i started offering the services to other people i didn't think it was economically viable but then i

49:08 realized the part is 80 to 90 and apple charges 1200 at the time to replace the

49:13 entire screen assembly so i just kept doing that over and over again people

49:17 started bringing liquid damaged ones eventually so i started sending them off

49:20 to a company in china that would fix them they were doing worse and worse job

49:24 as time went on so i figured if i've been working on recording studio

49:27 equipment and consoles at component level let me see if i can figure out how

49:30 to do this so after a lot of i think a few years of painfully messing around

49:34 and bailing a lot and recording a lot of it for youtube i got decent enough at it

49:38 that i could offer it to regular customers and that was that i think the youtube thing

49:42 started from uh making a video because reseller ratings was trying to up the

49:46 rate by about a thousand percent so i did a video on their process that got

49:50 120 000 views that i thought would get 10 and

49:53 that was that cool and you you've mentioned audio stuff a few times

49:58 uh this way in show so what what was your involvement in the music

50:02 industry i worked at i went to avatar studios and i said that i would i

50:06 remember saying something like i would rather wash the toilets here than work at any

50:10 other place for money and i remember i showed up from my interview and the guy

50:14 asked what is this thing that i had in my pocket and it was a semi headphone amplifier that i put together myself

50:19 from stuff that i bought on ebay and he said you're hired i think that was roy

50:22 hendrickson that hired me so i worked there and i cleaned the toilets and i

50:25 cleaned the you know all the the floors and the consoles and everything

50:29 for three months and then i uh after working there for free after three

50:32 months i got to work in the tech room with the other people working on ssl

50:36 consoles and eve consoles to retape machines and that was that cool sweet it

50:41 was fun i think with that we are oh no we have about 10 minutes

50:46 left let's see if there's any actual topics to talk about

50:50 uh no topics no no turns out recycling

50:53 garbage in like the poor part of the thing that's also a really good way to

50:56 get technology that's how i got most of my first computers it's like let's

51:00 frankenstein stuff together i think i feel like

51:04 most people that are into computers have a similar story that like my favorite

51:07 one is uh i went to a like a country high school we didn't have very much

51:11 money especially not in the tech departments and uh

51:16 the way that we built a new computer lab because we needed one really badly because there's a lot of kids in the

51:20 school that were interested in computers it was just designed as a country school

51:23 so it was the most trades and stuff the way we built a new computer lab was

51:26 my teacher waited for the truck that went to all

51:30 the different schools and picked up all their broken computers because they did it once every like few years and called

51:34 him the guy directly i don't know how you got his number and diverted him to

51:37 our school which i really originally what he wasn't planning to go to because we had no computers to give up and he

51:42 was like yeah we got some stuff just like leave the truck for a little while

51:46 and he left the truck and we offloaded everything that was on there which was

51:49 like not supposed to happen i'm not going to say your name but thank you very much teacher um because i think the

51:54 hard drives and stuff that were on there yeah but we took everything we shoved it all in

51:58 one room and then my teacher was just like okay bye thank you leave now um and

52:02 we spent the next few months that whole computer class

52:05 just like we would like oh my goodness okay this motherboard actually works

52:09 let's find all the cpus and all the RAM and everything that can go into this

52:12 board and test all of it and mark everything as good or bad and like find

52:16 all the use those to find all the motherboards that work and like

52:19 we ended up building like one and a half computer Labs out of it that was a

52:23 really really cool project we had uh i was accused by the time i

52:28 made it to high school i was accused of black magic because the local repair

52:31 place would always replace the motherboard whenever a ps2 whenever a

52:34 kid would something the ps2 ports were really bad because like if you pulled

52:37 the keyboard the wrong way blow the fuse on the motherboard and so it was not

52:41 surface mount it was through hole it was really easy to replace and i would be

52:44 like well let's just crack it open take the motherboard out and replace the

52:47 the through-hole fuse and the local computer repair company was like black

52:50 magic witchcraft burn him burn him at the stake

52:54 we got to replace the motherboard we can't just repair them that's like three cents we can't do it

52:59 so yeah that was not fun in a poor high school where they can't afford a thousand bucks a machine

53:03 to replace stuff and you i'm just i don't know why i'm

53:07 jumping back to this now i kind of skimmed over it when you were first telling the story but uh you built a

53:12 amplifier you said it was a semoy means they have all these guides online and

53:15 how to build them it's a headphone amplifier that you build into an altoids can that's powered off a nine volt

53:19 battery so what got you into that though i just enjoyed hi-fi audio okay yeah

53:24 yeah yeah so you wanted to like kind of build something yeah i just thought it was something cool to do in my spare

53:28 time and i've seen uh if i remember correctly you have those like the i'm

53:31 going to use the wrong term but the sound dampening panels yeah those sound

53:35 dampening piles uh panels yeah yeah yeah piles of cat yeah in my office and at

53:41 home yeah are you still into custom hi-fi stuff yeah yeah cool what's what's

53:45 like the most recent custom hi-fi project you've done uh like just the

53:48 vanderstein set of speakers that i have at home you really don't need really expensive stuff to make it sound good

53:53 you can find new stuff online like vanderstein speakers for four hundred

53:56 dollars a cheap amplifier and some of those uh corning 703 panels and it'll

54:00 sound amazing yeah i've i've actually been for a while now i've wanted to copy

54:04 your your sound dampening panel project you just can't have a cat because if you

54:07 have a cat then yeah yeah

54:11 they use it as a scratching post they've made it that entire section of my apartment look like garbage

54:16 that's right the cat is cute so it gets away you worked in it for quite a while

54:21 um i had several hats in that company um but i worked

54:26 very close well i started actually doing energy audits and stuff

54:29 within the company and we also wrote our own software to run on various devices

54:33 either ipads or the samsung devices i mentioned

54:37 and we had major contracts with the power companies and then

54:41 rit department was extremely overworked and supporting all these devices

54:44 upgrading getting ready to go repairing them

54:47 and we also had our in-house you know a software development team and then the

54:51 more they realized that i was the guy that was actually going around

54:55 in the field helping other people people so get a problem you have to call in to

54:59 the help desk right and our help desk was three guys trying to support a

55:02 company of 350 field agents and it was like that could get overworked really

55:06 easy yeah and that was the same rit department of three was the same guys

55:10 also building and managing our um three country-wide six major cities

55:16 vpn that kept all of our offices in communication so if they were doing that

55:20 or they were out at a data center or something we were just like

55:23 down in person yeah so i was the guy that everyone started calling out in the

55:26 field to come help them if they had tech problems with their equipment or something was broken needed it fixed

55:31 when the company realized i was doing that then they were like hey do you want

55:34 to manage our help desk and i was like i don't know we'll see so

55:37 because i knew i had all the end user experience as well as the technical

55:41 know-how to keep it all working well once i got into that role they realized

55:45 i also knew an okay amount of uh coding and design

55:49 from my dad being a project a software developer so then they were like you

55:53 want to be a part of our qcqa team if you're part of our automated testing and i'm like wait so you want me to do help

55:57 desk management and this so basically i ended up having like these three hats at

56:01 one time um which really burned me out to be honest

56:05 because i did that for almost 10 years right and then that was when i started

56:08 doing the youtube thing and just kind of moved out of there but it was fun i learned a lot um obviously it was unique

56:14 to have this kind of a venn diagram of experience right all three of those

56:18 aspects you know development support and then end user

56:22 which uh really gave me a unique understanding of what it's like from top

56:26 to bottom when it comes to product testing and use yeah so i i try and take

56:31 everything from a very practical perspective of how i approach tech

56:34 but i do have a a very high level knowledge too on where a lot

56:38 of it starts and but i try not to really go into any of that in my content

56:42 because i leave stuff for that like wendell and gamer's nexus yeah the guys

56:46 who can actually communicate in that in a manner which people can understand

56:49 because i'm very good at practical use but i'm very bad at technical

56:53 explanation okay so and i'm going to take something that you

56:57 said and something that you explained uh but so you you got into youtube because

57:02 you wanted to kind of express annoyance from who was it customer reseller rating

57:07 resellers.com uh and you mentioned that you started to get

57:11 into youtube at that time but why did you start to get into youtube it was a

57:15 dare oh someone dared me okay um so i

57:18 was live yeah well i was live streaming um

57:22 call of duty three close co close quarters when it launched because nick

57:26 coconut monkey and i were good friends we played that all the time and i had

57:29 started live streaming it because when when it dropped for um premium access

57:34 early access he was like with a family on vacation he couldn't play it so he's

57:38 all butthurt so i basically was like okay i'll find out how to stream it so you can watch and see the early access

57:42 um another gentleman by the name of holiday doc came in and just randomly

57:46 found my stream and he was a pretty well known like call of duty codcaster for

57:49 like mlg and he just thought that i was funny and entertaining and we became

57:53 friends and after a couple of months he's like you should do youtube people would find

57:57 like this tech stuff interesting because i became like the guy he asked pc

58:00 questions to because he didn't know anything about pcs and then he was like you should do stuff

58:05 like this on youtube i said and then and at the time i didn't know Linus tech

58:09 tips i didn't know people made livings on youtube i was this is 2012 i was

58:13 super ignorant to what was going on i was like who the heck would watch a

58:16 channel about computers that sounds like the most boring thing

58:20 anyone would ever spend their time doing he's like well just try it so he i

58:24 basically told him i'll i'll try it but what it fails will you leave me alone

58:28 he kept bugging me about doing it and so i was like fine i'll try it and then of

58:32 course it just sort of steadily took off and i've since like built him a computer

58:35 and sent him parts yes you're pushing me it's it's one of

58:39 those things where i only did it to show that it would not work yeah and fast

58:45 forward six years it's now my it's not incorporated and it's now

58:49 helping other people pay their bills because now i have employees so it's crazy

58:53 i uh that's that's actually really cool and i like the part where you sent them

58:57 a computer and parts and stuff that's kind of cool to pay it back i i

59:01 got into youtube because uh i was like really really into

59:05 mechanical keyboards like before america really had very many

59:10 mechanics that sounds rare but people are like really into that yeah it it

59:14 there there's there's forums dedicated to it and stuff it's just not that big

59:17 of a community um and i had like i had my own like

59:20 imported from taiwan keyboard and all this kind of stuff and i wanted to show

59:24 it off because i was proud that i had finally actually gotten a mechanical keyboard instead of just researching

59:28 them online all the time uh so i filmed a video of that and then never released

59:32 it and now there's uh some people have watching this have probably seen it but

59:35 there's a video of lioness and i watching that video both just

59:39 essentially maybe yeah because that was when it was like critiquing your first video like that a

59:43 lot of people were doing that yeah yeah so we we critiqued a video that no one

59:47 had seen because it was never released anywhere right um so that the director's

59:52 commentary thing we were talking about like as it's airing and then you're so embarrassed because you're like oh my

59:55 god i can't believe i said that yeah by the time you think like you nailed this video you go back and you look and

59:59 you're like wow i'm an idiot especially because i said something that was like

60:02 factually incorrect what was your first mechanical keyboard uh dk 9008 g2

60:08 from ducky oh see i mean ducky's announcement it's still the keyboard that i yes

60:12 my first was a razer black widow oh yeah

60:15 okay i remember i mean it was nothing super special but it was a blue switch

60:19 without that was super cool until i started streaming

60:22 i still stream with it i don't even care people are going to deal with it m or

60:26 bust do you use one i do okay i've got a

60:29 black model m actually actually that's cool a fairly impressive collection of

60:33 the uh ssk model amps as well the numpadless ones yeah i have a mask i

60:37 should be able to make it until i'm about 80 if i only use

60:40 the ssks because that's pretty sweet the model and the you know comp still makes

60:45 the model m but it's a little lighter it's not quite construction yeah um the

60:49 the earlier ones are better the later ones they've gotten a lot of money from

60:53 like the healthcare industry and stuff so unicomp is making higher quality products than they were even a couple of

60:57 years ago and uh there it's almost as good but

61:02 man those assets like it's nice the only thing i really missed

61:06 are the extra keys so i've had to like remap my keys for things on the right

61:09 side of the keyboard but it's not bad yeah i i have one properly functioning

61:14 model m but i generally don't use it

61:18 um i've got a bunch of the ones with the num lock you can totally have one

61:22 or with like the number pad yeah yeah that's fine that'd be cool i can even

61:25 give you new inbox i've got like four of those of like the original yeah holy cow

61:29 that would be pretty cool i will uh we'll we'll talk later

61:33 but uh how do you get into youtube um the very first video that i made was

61:37 actually even before the thing but like i used to well it's a long story but

61:42 even before all of that there is a video that i'm surprised that no one found and

61:47 it was when uh Windows vista came out i was so angry

61:53 i probably should have been medicated and i was really worried about privacy

61:57 and things like that but i made a driver showing how NVIDIA had completely

62:01 screwed the pooch on 64-bit drivers under 64-bit vista they literally took

62:06 their 32-bit driver and pasted it into a

62:09 64-bit uh wrapper i was so mad i could

62:13 not see straight i was seething with anger because it was like you know right

62:17 up to the beta launching video was like really come out with a driver and then after vista went into production they

62:23 were like okay cool here's a real driver and it was still the same garbage that

62:26 had been for like the last six months before that and so there's a video on

62:30 youtube of me losing my mind and ranting about this

62:34 horrible pile of garbage driver that doesn't work and it'll work for five

62:37 minutes and then crash and the whole reason was that as soon as a program

62:41 would try to do anything outside of that 32-bit address space with that 64-bit

62:45 driver it would crash because it wasn't really a 64-bit driver

62:49 so there's that and that's the very first thing i did on youtube technically

62:53 i guess yeah if i want to be specific the very first stuff i did on youtube

62:56 was uh again this is the only reason why i thought of it even i usually forget

63:01 about this but you mentioned no one found it so far no one has found this i

63:05 checked a little while ago and it was still there i don't know why the titles are so bad it's probably why people

63:09 can't find it but no click bait here but uh this was i

63:13 used to do guides on how to get 100 sync

63:16 in like assassin's creed levels

63:20 and like no one cared it was great um so

63:24 what another thing i want to ask you about is you recently developed and

63:27 started selling why am i forgetting the name of them right now

63:31 yes you uh like multi-port kvms with

63:34 really really really high-end features so that was another thing that was made

63:38 me almost as mad but not quite as mad as the NVIDIA driver thing that's why i

63:42 brought it up and it was like all right i can do something about this this is

63:46 the thing that i can fix because the world of kvms for like 4k and like

63:50 displayport 60 hertz it's terrible it's really terrible

63:55 and most i know of even now are still like vga stuff yeah yeah and like the

63:59 usb functionality is like it's designed for like the five dollar usb keyboard

64:05 which has like one of three of the cheapest usb chips known to man but if

64:08 you get an RGB keyboard it doesn't work or if you've got like the Corsair

64:12 keyboards once the driver loads it's not even really a keyboard anymore and so

64:16 good luck getting that to work with the kvm and so i just i found

64:21 i found somebody in taiwan that had basically the hardware that i needed but

64:24 i got them to tweet the hardware for me and i got to do software that solves the

64:30 problems for people like us that would be trying to do things with a kvm that

64:34 has you know a 4k displayport 1.2 whatever and

64:38 i basically already had a customer lined up for them so i was just sort of selling the seconds but they sold so

64:43 well that we did two other runs and it is shocking the people that have come

64:47 out of the woodwork to buy the kvms and generally it's done really well uh

64:50 interestingly macs are the things that uh have the biggest problem like the the

64:54 trashcan mac pros don't actually follow the displayport spec at all no way yeah

64:59 so that's the most surprised no way i've

65:03 ever heard

65:06 so they're a little problematic with max the modern max you have to use like a

65:10 Thunderbolt dock that has like a displayport socket you can't just use a

65:13 cheap cable and i don't know what that's about so i'm looking i'm working on that

65:16 yeah i know that the to every macbook with the since the touch bar with the dongle

65:21 if you use a dongle it's not the apple dongle your devices won't work yeah it's

65:25 a rule i plan to do a real review of that and once i got to the point where i

65:28 plugged it in and i realized the dongle didn't work unless you use the 80 one

65:32 and the 30 one worked and the two other machines i had i just couldn't stop that

65:36 well the one of the design choices on the kvm is that it does not have a

65:40 repeater and so a lot of the signal is like a lot of the

65:45 signal out of that displayport cable is just barely enough that if it's going

65:49 into the monitor it's fine but if you send it in through the

65:54 connector and then into the kvm which is like another four inches of cable and

65:57 then back out again the signal noise ratio is not high enough for it to do a

66:01 proper digital sync or whatever on that cable and

66:05 it's infuriating because the spec says that it should be able to

66:09 push an unamplified cable that's like eight meters or something like that and

66:14 it you're lucky to get four i'd be interested in what chip sets the the

66:17 trash can one uses because i think i've only opened one of those ever it's a

66:20 d300 but it goes through i think it goes through the board in the bottom and then

66:24 back out the connector in the back and so they have a repeater or something

66:28 in the board in the bottom and that's the problem oh yeah because if i like

66:31 just solder a little dongle directly on the

66:34 d300 it's fine so you'd have to tell your customers to solder it directly to

66:38 the mac pro yeah it's some some of the witchcraft

66:41 after the d300 before it makes it out of the mac because i'm assembling

66:45 yeah the you mentioned the like i think it was like four inches or whatever of

66:50 cable within the within the box that was a i'm going to tangent here a fair

66:53 amount but that was a really interesting situation when usb 3 start first started

66:57 becoming popular and you'd have those cases that have front i o usb 3 but that

67:02 were just cable extensions that would go all the way out the back of the case and

67:05 plug into the back your motherboard and then you'd have people with really long

67:08 usb 3 cables so you'd have people with like 15 feet worth of total actual

67:12 distance for usb 3 and then it won't charge their freaking devices that

67:16 remains a problem on cases i mean the front panel usb 3 is still hit and miss

67:20 it's still really a lot of cases yeah it's it's it's it's frustrating too when

67:24 you we're finally in the era where it isn't those weird extensions that have to go

67:28 out the case and then into the motherboard in order to make it so you can plug in usb but they some cases will

67:34 still have usb just like header cables for usb 3 that you could plug into a

67:38 different case like it's like why is it so long this is actually really bad but

67:43 yeah most people most people don't know about that that being said though i think we're going to cut it here because

67:47 you have to grab a plane i have a flight yeah he has to get out of here uh thanks

67:51 for watching the WAN Show this was a bit of a bit of a different way to do the

67:54 WAN Show uh we half covered one topic uh

67:58 but i think it was good it was fun to talk about a whole bunch of different stuff i'm going to let people shout out

68:03 their channels again uh so lewis rossman

68:06 group guesses 2 s's

68:12 perfect there we go i will see you guys next week i will possibly see you guys

68:16 at ltx i'm gonna enjoy some more of this savage i'll be there tomorrow do it

68:33 uh

68:49 yay private internet access for all your privates yeah ltx

68:59 i need to get shilling scenes in open broadcaster dude it's great that's great

69:03 i have to do it manually it sucks