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boom we should be live on the WAN Show i'm going to yet again pull it up on my

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phone because because of the should that i just did you get them no

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okay you guys are going to witness some fly hunting throughout the show because

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there's one that just will not leave us alone and i believe lewis is going to murder it before we're done uh but to to

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introduce people here louis rossman um

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fighter of apple repairer of everything

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uh what's your like channel and stuff what various callouts uh rossman group

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with two s's and two ends that's a good way to do that uh level

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one text wendell how's it going Linux masterman if you oh don't hit me

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now where'd it go

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this will be a recurring theme it's a big one too

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oh it's it's it's been feeding it would be well it would be an honor to be assaulted by lewis rossman

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yeah he'll repair it afterwards i am also down to be a target just go for

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gold let's go

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right on the face i love how you're like i'll take it and

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then it goes okay here we go right here yeah okay yeah uh channel level one text

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any other callouts you want to do how's it going yeah there we go wendell

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jay's two cents you guys probably know jay uh

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everywhere yeah with a z it's not jay-z on twitter no but if

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you're gonna tag me tag beyonce too yeah i might as well include it uh and this

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don't know what almost any of them are we know that the uh there's some

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updates to the macbook pro uh chrome is

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using more RAM wow that's surprising and some other stuff but i doubt we'll get

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to a ton of it because we'll probably go into crazy tangents and we might kill a

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fly i'm gonna roll the intro and we'll be back in a second

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you're probably either okay or not um private internet access vpn

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and savage jerky are the sponsors for this show i'm gonna

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try to reset this and then go back to maine

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so new macbook pros coming out um they have replaced the keyboard

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uh but as we were talking before the show it's not gonna fail anymore

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wrong it is a third generation butterfly

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keyboard however this design was was not

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intended to solve the recently highlighted butterfly keyboard issues

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that's a direct quote from apple isn't it i i believe so it's not in quotes

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here but i believe so well not well i mean there was no problem with it to

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begin with right you're just typing too hard so what what was theatrica i generally

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stay away from from those but what was the actual problem well people would say

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that the key is either not working or it'll type 20 times when you press it

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once and usually people would show up and say i didn't get any water on it it

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just happened that i'd open it and it would be yellow and brown and ugly but

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some of these look like they're just new out of the box and the keys just don't

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work on them and then it started to be something where once a day somebody would show up

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then five people a day would show up then when we had like 20 to 40 people

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showing up a day with the same problem and calling and emailing about it i

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realized this is going to be a thing yeah yeah

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that's the super shallow flat real thin key yes the thin key that goes

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like every time you type it that really obnoxious annoying one it's not like a

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nice mechanical keyboard noise it's a mechanical keyboard noise without any of

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the mechanic part yeah there's no bass to it it's just

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yeah they just have like i was not a fan of that keyboard

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at all like i couldn't type on it yeah the throw is just so short

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but basically what i'm hearing here is we got a new keyboard but

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it could potentially have all the same problems as the other one well yeah they

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they specifically didn't even roll this keyboard out to fix the

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problem so i assume i assume there will because it was never a problem

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right i got i got to put the apple hat back on do you have a sense that if it

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it's more than like a year old it's exponentially more likely to fail

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unnaturally or is it is it age related at all

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i don't know i think it's even age related because some people showing up at this have had it for six or eight

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months and they'll show up and ask if we can fix it because they don't want to wait a week or two for the apple store

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to do it weird

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not good well just like iphone 4 just don't hold it that way yeah

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it's just this really weird level of utopianism where i think like if

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it honestly reminds me what my history teacher used to talk about with the with

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uh russia and the soviet union where somebody would be we called the counter

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revolutionary because they did something wrong and they would that guy would get thrown in prison and then the guy that

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was throwing him in prison would wind up getting thrown in prison by somebody else it's like somebody will say my

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machine is getting really hot and i get lines on the screen and they'll say why

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don't you get applicant if you had apple care then it would it would have been covered and then the guy and then the

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guy that says that winds up one day out of applecare uh with a machine where

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like it'll just start randomly crashing and he's like oh my god maybe that other

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person was right but then he'll post in the forum and they'll go why didn't you

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get they released the replacement program for it why didn't you get it and

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one of the funny things was the 2010 macbook where they it had a crashing

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problem because they used the wrong capacitor they released the replacement program in 2013 that only covered the

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machine three years from the date of purchase and the machine was manufactured in two thousand twenty two

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so if you were sitting there going f5 f5 f5 f5 on their warranty page maybe you

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would be able to get it but but if you believe that apple products are this

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great because in some ways they are you know they're easy to use they use pci

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express ssds in 2013. um they have really great screens they don't crash as

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really don't want to believe that the product is bad yeah so you either have

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to admit that they have faults or you have to deny your own experience and

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what drives me nuts is when people will actually believe i'm typing on it wrong

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i'm holding it wrong i'm encoding video on it wrong and that's what drives me

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nuts it's not that the product itself is terrible it's that when something goes

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wrong with it people will just treat themselves as if they did something wrong

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rather than if the company did something because they truly believe the product

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is fail-proof yeah it's like you know it's not like other companies don't have

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faults too it's just if somebody buys an hp and that happens they will yell at hp

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they won't but if something happens with an apple product and it's the same fault

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they'll just believe that they did something wrong and it drives me up a

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wall yeah and it's it's it's

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it's a frustrating experience too because like i i've generally liked

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apple's ecosystem because i will send certain people there uh like like for

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instance my mom i tried to get her to get an iphone then she got used to

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Android so there's no point trying to flip that over again but i try to get her to get an iphone because like you

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said they're they're quite easy to use they're usually fairly intuitive all

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that kind of stuff but then when you start having these problems it's like oh

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okay you're spending with this new macbook up to like seven thousand

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dollars if you want to get the crazy max to your oh they they get pretty

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expensive what you can get six cores 32 gigs of RAM uh like four terabyte ssds

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so you can get the specs ridiculously high which is i guess part of the factor because

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anytime you tear up anything in apple's customizer it's really expensive and

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there's things that they do well you know if david bowie was coming back to life for 20 minutes and i had one chance

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to record you've been around again i would want to do it on a mac not Windows

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10. right it's just i don't want to deal with all these other problems Windows 10

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might try to you know like you update in the middle or yeah

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nonsense like that man okay so for ltx which is tomorrow uh

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we have we have two guests here from the forum two guys that i've never met

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before which i think is actually really cool that they're coming i haven't seen them yet uh but two admins on the forum

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and one of them came over here with his business laptop and he had a Windows

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update hit him while he was here and it bricked his Windows i don't remember the

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exact details but he had to rush here in the morning and borrow a computer in a

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flash drive so he could get Windows onto a flash drive so he could completely

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reformat everything so he could keep working microsoft genuinely earned the reputation that they have and they

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earned the people that will put up with this nonsense from apple just to escape

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it i completely understand it well i've had two systems completely fail on

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update to the point to where it was the system was completely unstable and i i

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remember getting Windows vista with a new machine where when it first came out

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you couldn't even run programs without running an update you would just try to

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open a new browser and it would just sit there and then 20 minutes later it would

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open yeah there's a i don't know

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really bad my what my computer was one of the

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admittedly i guess probably over the overall spectrum of the amount of people

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that had this happen to them not that high percentage but my computer was one of the ones that when they forced the

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upgrade to Windows 10 i wasn't even at home i had denied the upgrade so many

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times then i was at work and while i was at work my computer upgraded from

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Windows 7 to Windows 10 and bricked itself that was when they implemented the like click here now before this

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countdown's gone if you don't want it yeah because they knew people were leaving their systems on walking away

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going to work yeah whatever you come back suddenly in mid update and i had

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even ran the scripts that are supposed to stop it but then they'd release some

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update that would get around that and it was just very frustrating i one thing i've

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enjoyed this entire conversation uh is that wendell has been almost silent

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if wendell hasn't said anything yet we're not wrong

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well no yeah okay yeah i agree with that but it's just the Linux man it's just

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like Linux uh there are systems that i have

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that have up times of like 600 days which is actually really bad because

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there are kernel updates and security updates and stuff like that so those

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machines are potentially a typhoid mary but yeah 600 days of uptime

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it's like oh look Windows update itself i can just hit a button and it's like oh

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look it's the way that it was yesterday nice try microsoft you failed one of the

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things we're actually working on back in my studio right now is um he landed on

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my hand right now so we're gonna we're gonna get him okay okay um he's back we

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will actually we're actually gonna do some rollbacks and force updates we're

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gonna do comparative benchmarks to see how much it actually impacts your system

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both high end and low end because there's times we're doing benchmarks and we're like what the heck suddenly

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something's weird like we start going you know really super stuttery or

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something we realize like oh look a background process update's happening

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it's eating 25 percent of our resources yeah anatec ran into that with their um

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their zen plus coverage yeah um the like

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rise of the tomb raider and a whole bunch of games were running as good or slightly better on AMD than

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Intel and it was because they had the high precision timer which reading and

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writing from hardware registers triggers the meltdown spectrum mitigations more i

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guess yeah so depending on what you're doing you could have a significant reduction in

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performance right it's an interesting situation uh do you

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want to talk a little bit about not too much because we got a video to release

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but you want to talk a little bit about what you're doing here with Anthony it was exciting

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yeah i spent i spent monday and tuesday with Anthony doing Linux stuff and it's

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Linux on gaming gaming on Linux and so we look at native Linux on gaming which

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is pretty cool basically works and then gaming through wrappers like wine and

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all the various flavors of that running 12 different versions of wine at the same time easily

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and then finally virtualization and the horizon for doing everything through a

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virtual machine and not really sacrificing anything in terms of performance so i'm really looking

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forward to that that'll be really good we'll have companion guides and stuff on the forum for

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like really nitty gritty step by step if you want to do fedora or ubuntu or you

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know arch or whatever and everything he just said is why we were talking earlier

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about how apple is sometimes more uh easily accessible

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like 12 different versions of wine uh yeah oh so you're writing a game for mac

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well you're going to have to do the metal API sorry

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it's gotten a lot better now like compared to let's say 15 years ago if you wanted to do a digital audio

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workstation Linux was terrible for it but it's gotten a lot better yeah it's

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not you know yeah it's still got some rough edges i

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extremely rarely uh do do the hip things

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and go to clubs and stuff but uh the only time i ever will is for one

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of my friends and on his birthday and we went to one place and i noticed that the

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dj had a giant MSI laptop with an art full RGB keyboard

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and stuff and i was even thinking like that's just like weird

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like i took a photo because i was like oh it's cool yeah usually but it's it's usually a macbook and even

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just it was one of the like thick ones because it had the i believe it was one

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of the mechanical keyboard ones so like this is huge yeah it's a massive massive

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cumbersome laptop that he brings to shows

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i firmly believe that this like we want laptops to stand as paper i don't think

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that a lot of consumers really want that i think consumers like thin and light

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but i think if you tell a consumer hey you can get five more years out of this

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machine if it's got a replaceable keyboard and it's just a hair thicker

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that doesn't seem unreasonable you've talked about this a bunch with phones uh

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not to admit that i watch a huge amount of your content and have since way before i made videos but um you're

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talking about how you see a lot of reviewers review a phone and it's different than consumers

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looking at a phone yeah because thickness plastic backs all that kind of stuff there's this big disconnect when i

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read a review and then when i talk to people who come in and say what they want on a phone just well you know let's

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say we're fixing somebody's phone we can have a 15-minute conversation i've never

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heard a normal person that i've met in real life talk about the bezel of a

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phone every single reviewer they'll spend two or three paragraphs talking

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about the bezel and like you know how it goes out to the end and now we find no

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casing at all i've never heard somebody talk about that or care you know in real

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life they think you know it would be nice if i drop my phone from here to

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hear that it not break they don't care about the bezel or they'll say the back

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is made of premium materials but the regular person will say i can see

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fingerprints that's ugly yeah or they're going to stick it in the case anyway

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yeah and it has to you know like a phone like this has to go in a case because it's it'll crack if i go from here to

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here yeah and the back of it looks nice but if i actually touch it you can feel

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the only thing i care about with bezel is whether or not it's slippery but

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without a case yeah and the things are getting more slick over time you know

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and that's that's always bugged me but other than that's why you don't really see

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phone reviews on my channel because i'm one of those people that just don't care about any of that yeah if you sold the

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phone imagine if you i think that if you put it in a bullet point two years from

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now it will still work the battery can be replaced and it's not gonna slow down

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too terribly that somebody may actually consider buying it over something else

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you know you have an extra eighth of a millimeter but you can replace the

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battery i have a lg g5 for just that reason it's you know ancient by today's

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standards but removable battery and metal back and still has a fingerprint

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sensor and it's not like super heavy and i see a lot of people say yeah but in two years you're going to get a new

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phone anyway it's okay you may get a new phone anyway in two years but somebody

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that doesn't want to spend an extra two or four hundred dollars isn't it yeah i think i used to be i'm sorry i didn't i

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used to be an annual upgrader but not anymore like i'll go i'll go two years

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plus and usually the only thing that will make me upgrade is if i start seeing battery degradation that's only

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because i've been on iphone for the longest time now it's because it's super simple and that's only because it's not

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easy to service battery swaps you know for an average end user i think so i

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think that design kind of peaked around probably the galaxy s3

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because removable battery upgradable storage and it still had a plastic back

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yeah and there were cases for that you could replace the back like you got you

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could take the back off and have like a leather back if you wanted to well and

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when i was still working in it we had an entire fleet of s3s out there and you

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could do the extended battery with the extended back cover you know we were sending those out into the field yeah i

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don't i don't know why that went out of vote yeah a lot of people said well the battery life on modern phones is good

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enough that you don't need a second battery to get through the day but that totally ignores that

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yeah after it's not even that that's not even the issue so much as it is one year

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or two years later when it barely has any battery life i want i'm going to keep this thing for longer than two

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years no reason to buy it and i think more

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people would buy it if you actually advertise that and i haven't seen anybody advertise longevity as a feature

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no but it could be one thing in twitch chat i posted a poll uh because i'm i'm

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interested on the exact percentages at least for our audience which is a

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terrible uh section if we want to be scientific but whatever i want to see

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the exact percentages of people that care about ultra thin bezels so check

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straw poll in the chat and uh s3 specifically i have one interesting

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story with that that ties into what you're talking about with it should be able to fall right

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i was i was at university and i was late for class so i was sprinting and i ran

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down a huge set of steps and i had too much momentum and there was one of those like uh poles that stopped cars from

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going into areas so i decided i'll just hop over it and i jump and i remember

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that my as i'm mid-air remember that my phone is in my sweater pocket not in my

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jeans pocket it goes flying smacks into

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the ground the battery goes one way the bat goes the other way the rest of the

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phone goes the other way tiny chip in the corner put everything back together

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turn it back on works perfectly what phone was that s3 seriously that was a

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hard phone to break yeah and like i think one of the things that actually

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helps is that it kind of explodes and it like says it's i can't remember

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the correct terminology for it but the force of the impact goes with each part

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and lets it blow out the s3 one of the earlier gorilla glass yeah

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yeah yeah when that actually meant something yeah before they kept making the grill gas

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thinner which then just made it as brittle as anything else yeah yeah well

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the with the g5 where it's got the replaceable battery and still kind of

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modern i've replaced the battery in it twice yeah i mean it was basically a

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launch day phone and it's you just slide it out and slide a new battery in it's

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eight bucks from china yeah yeah that's the other thing you can get those

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batteries so cheap if you buy them third-party so the the poll results for

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people that didn't click on results when they ended is about 78 of people do not

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care about ultra thin bezels and 28 well

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i guess yeah 22 percent of people do that's the audience about people

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watching a tech in tech review channel yeah yeah

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so it's skewed but i don't necessarily know in what

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direction it's still it's such a high percentage that like we've seen it

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though we've seen these early polls you let them go for five minutes or five days it tends to

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whatever like the first few minutes ratio it won't change a ton

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yeah it will generally stay there yeah yeah so like i and well the thing is if

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you if you expose that pole to a much different audience yeah it might shift

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it a bit more but i i kind of doubt it i i've had a

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similar experience i'm sure you've talked to more people about it but i've had a similar experience talking to just

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friends and family yeah like what would you want in a phone i remember reading

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so many phone reviews for this and i saw one eli the computer guy clip of a video

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very you know with his 500 camera pointing at it saying this is me loading

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google maps this is it not lagging and i just thought sold yeah cause that's all

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i really care about the things that i do every day when i go to you know hell and

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uber is it going to take forever when i want to scroll around is it going to

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take forever is the does the battery last you know things like that with

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phones these days that can like play

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relatively decent uh graphic fidelity games at relatively decent frame rates

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like they can probably open uber and google

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maps relatively i just feel like we've progressed so far in the mobile

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computing uh biologies and the passings are like the early days of smartphones

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back when i had my blackberry storm and and the droid one was out and the the

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iphone 3 and 3g or 3gs you know it's like

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back then it was a big deal like this one scroll smoother where the Android

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was choppy and stuff where obviously there was big variants between the

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devices but now everything's so damn close yeah it's really hard to

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differentiate a winner it really comes down to the to the interface i think the

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interface battle is the thing that keeps Android iphone and then i think like i'm

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surprised blackberry is even still around but the only other person i've met that had a storm that was i had a

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storm because you feel about the first generation storm it was terrible

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i never used i never used the uh because i think i had a physical keyboard too if

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i remember correctly that was no that there was no physical that was the one that clicked that's right it had the the

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click like the whole screen yeah but it only had one button in the middle right

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as you got further out to the edge you got weaker a little bit more detail

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i got it because i mean i was on verizon and we didn't have any other options at

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the time yeah you know iphone obviously didn't come to verizon until the the 4s

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was out and then um it lagged so badly

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right and then seven minutes so as soon as the droid one the original droid came

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out i replaced the blackberry with that um and then i carried both iphone and

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samsung at work for quite a while so i've got a very unique perspective of at

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least back in 2013 what it was like to

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be a dual wielder you know yeah yeah i never had any experience on the other

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side of the road back then but i remember when like the first Android butter update came out that like that

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was the biggest deal i had seen in a while because it massively i think was

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like one of the first ones i was on oh yeah yeah yeah okay you know what phone

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was massively underrated was the uh last generation t-mobile sidekick

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i heard a lot of people really liked it yeah it ran java which is like you would

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think it would be a pile of garbage because java especially in those days

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because that was before Android but the thing with the phone is that if it

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does what you want it to do really well that it's a really good phone it doesn't

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need to be a status symbol the sidekick was kind of like it looked like a toy

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but had a good keyboard and the screen was decent but it also had a color lcd

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that was reflective so you're not going to get like photorealistic color but you

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could get color and so the battery life would last forever like days

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because it wasn't actually having a backlight unless it was dark outside you

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mentioned status symbol too here's a here's a straw poll it might be interesting how many people choose a

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phone based on it being an accessory or a status thing

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yeah right because i i think a lot of people choose their phone based on where

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people gonna think of my phone i think it's kind of sad but i feel like there's a good percentage of people that care

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about that how many people are gonna admit to that though probably very few

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it's not really much of a problem anymore but there was a there was a

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while there where like the the pricey phones couldn't connect to like

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corporate email and stuff like that properly and so i was on the receiving end of that and it's like you need to

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get this phone or this phone if you wanted to work properly with your email system and they're like i'm gonna buy

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this because it looks like i'm wealthy and it's just that was one of the

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reasons why i had the blackberry to begin with because when i was working in software at the time in our it

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department um we had you know all of our own mail servers and stuff it wasn't

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through standard pop or any of that stuff so it was the phone that could connect to

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it um but i'll be the first to admit that one of the reasons why i got iphone back

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when it first came to verizon was simply because it was something i couldn't get

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before and suddenly i could and everyone had it and i wanted it because of that

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and i literally it's just stayed with it ever since because i got used to it and

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i'm comfortable i'm not really a mobile power user and i don't need well nothing

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crazy but iphone 4 it was not completely unusable but the iphone one that didn't

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have copy paste i just can't imagine that world yeah see i joined long after that

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obviously but speaking of not being able to imagine that world uh we'll start from over here

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and go across what was your favorite phone

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like at that point in time i guess at that point in time i think the htc

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incredible in 2010 because the other Android phones were slow and clunky i

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was coming from a blackberry storm so six minute boot time opening browser

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takes a minute every time you do something it stutters and i got that phone and when i would tap something it

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just opened immediately there was no lag i'm sure if i upgraded to a new version

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of Android with it or a newer i shouldn't say new yeah

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and it also actually fit in your hand comfortably right very few phones will

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fit in my hand comfortably now because they're large just really big yeah Linus yeah Linus

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has a similar problem to that he likes uh old iphones because they're much

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smaller what about you i've never had a phone that i like for more than six

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months like it'll it's okay for six months and then with the software updates and

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whatever i'm doing to it it starts to run really bad okay what phone had the

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best six month period then probably the t-mobile sidekick yeah like the very

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last generation one because you could really quickly but switch between a

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bunch of tasks the web browsing wasn't terrible instant messaging wasn't

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terrible email was pretty good there was a there was one device before

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that that was like really it was a little before that arrows the there was

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like a motorola pager thing it was not a phone that thing was awesome i don't

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remember what it was i had that before i had a cell phone and that was like because then people

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couldn't call me it was great i uh mine would probably be my s3 i'm

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going to be easy basically that story yeah um s3 was awesome

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the thing was a tank i had it for so long i think it still works

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we got close it's on your shoe i know um we i had that phone for a very very

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long time i hit him did you see it hit the ground and he spiraled and he came back up you won't actually hit him

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you've got him but he's not dead he spiraled and he keep flew back up i think we're at one

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level he's gonna get sucked into that machine and be on one of the fans with all the friends

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you guys can't see that but that that uh that fangirl is pretty nice

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yeah he's right there there's another over there wait there's another one yeah there's two there's

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three i was so excited i felt like my leg was

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gonna be the death platform for this fly and i was i was stoked uh but yeah my s3

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what about you i really liked the s3 just because it was a good size

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improvement but i don't want to copy your answer so probably my original

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droid because i i actually played around back then with a lot of rooting

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different roms actually wrote it my own soundboard app

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back then for like playing my daughter's first words and i wrote that for my wife

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so she could have it on her phone and so it was a lot of fun um

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but then i think back then obviously there was a lot of limitations to their

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first moto droid and battery life kind of sucked and early Android wasn't as smooth it was

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clunky it took them like a year to make touch wiz not a giant polygon

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right but my problem with the samsung phones was the amount of bloatware they came with yeah so that drives me nuts

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yeah i've never i've i've that's one reason why i'm on a pixel right now it's

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just the stock experience is always preferred for me most most other phones

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that i've had i've tried as hard as i possibly can to revert it to a

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stock-based experience i do not like any

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of the custom uis i don't like any of that kind of stuff it's all it's all

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garbage this phone's too amazing let's crap it up boys yeah

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i don't think i've never seen somebody ask you know say i would like this phone

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to run slower please add your own software to it yeah you've never seen

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anybody ask for the bixby i would like a little bit more lag well it's kind of

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like it's kind of like laptops now we're like MSI is notorious for a crap ton of

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dashboards and bloatware and stuff you know it's like you get rid of all that stuff it's a good experience but

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otherwise when you work in a shop that sells not necessarily a pair

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repair shop but when you work in a shop that sells laptops and one of your main

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services is making them not junk out of the box that's that's like a weird weird

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place to be we have poll results for the the question not surprising um i don't

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think it's true at all

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oh yeah definitely most people are lying well it might be a little bit of lying

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it might be a little bit of subconscious shifting where you've decided that you

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want that phone because of status anyways and you'll justify it because of performance or future reasons

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and i think probably the strongest factor is that the audience that we have

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well there's smartphone mvt right if you have a crappy phone the guy next to you

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pulls out the latest version you're kind of like oh right i want that and the same thing if you got the latest one you

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kind of want to be like everyone look at my phone you know i mean because it's

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it's sad but it really is like an accessory yeah yeah yeah but like again with our

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audience though it's it's a bunch of pc performance freaks i'm not that

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surprised that pc performance freaks want high performance and high feature

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phones if we did this survey across everyone

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on the planet and everyone answered honestly i bet you status would probably

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be higher than anything else probably but with this audience and with natural

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skewing i'm not surprised it was 95 would people really admit that because

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then they have to admit to themselves i spent an extra 400 for status and that's

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not a pill that i think most people would swallow

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yeah it's it's it's an interesting question like the do you buy things for

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for like like functionality over aesthetic or aesthetic over

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functionality i think a lot of people will say that they buy something for

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functionality but they might even be buying the aesthetic of functionality if

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that makes sense if something looks like it's highly functional then they want

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that thing it's it's a really interesting mind game scenario because

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you might be convincing yourself of something and not even realizing there's a

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there's a dimension of that that's sort of uh related which is

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taking your customizations and your settings and stuff and that has always

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been like if you spend a lot of time customizing your phone or customizing

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whatever it is to make it exactly just so you will be punished because every

422
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,240
time there's an update or every time you switch phones it is super difficult to

423
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,360
get all those customizations from one device to another and it shouldn't be

424
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:34,799
yeah that's one of the few things i liked about apple's operating system is that when you use migration assistant

425
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,559
and time machine it just copies everything every app even the

426
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:41,360
settings within your applications will get all even your third-party

427
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:47,279
applications all get copied over perfectly it's really one of the reasons why i stayed on excuse me iOS for so

428
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:51,440
long was simply because new phone copy from previous backup you know

429
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,159
restore up and running and everything's exactly how i left it i don't even use

430
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,640
the ecosystem i don't have a watch i don't have an air i don't have an apple

431
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,520
or what's the apple tv thing i don't have anything i have no other part of the

432
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,720
ecosystem i even have a macbook but even they aren't connected yeah yeah

433
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,840
microsoft really screwed the pooch with the registry because the registry was

434
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:12,799
supposed to be that and also your application data folder and like theoretically you can move that between

435
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,960
machines but in reality you can't it ends badly every time yeah

436
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,760
you can copy certain features of certain applications but not everything and you

437
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:24,080
have to reinstall the applications yourself i noticed that when when you

438
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,919
upgrade to a new phone new device right it doesn't save the apps or anything it

439
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:31,679
saves the app data and then re-downloads the apps fresh and then re repopulates

440
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,520
the data yeah which before it used to be like you said a direct copy which was

441
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:40,240
even i believe in the earlier days was even copying the battery data which was making new batteries perform like four

442
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,240
batteries because of that efficiency scale yeah so i did notice that when i

443
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,440
upgraded this one yeah that was one of the worst things like uh

444
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:51,919
working in a like computer shop and you'd be doing

445
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,440
services and you someone would buy a new computer and they'd want a data transfer

446
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:59,760
and i try to because i tried to be at least somewhat honest i would try to explain to them

447
00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:03,520
this is pretty easy to do on your own but if they wanted it anyways sure

448
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,559
whatever sounds good and you go to do it and then you have to tell them that they

449
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,320
can't bring any of their programs and there's just that kind of

450
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,159
that's a 20-minute conversation and there's like this ratio where like as

451
00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:17,279
the customer is older the conversation is longer yeah yeah yeah

452
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,159
there's yeah and then you have to explain well you have to remember your own wi-fi password and you'll have to do

453
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,600
this and that because we do data recovery and sometimes we can recover it

454
00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:28,720
to where you can do a you can use migration assistant when you

455
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:32,000
get older programs and sometimes you can't and i'm just copying your data

456
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,039
folder from here to here and a lot of people even if i explain to them you

457
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,880
have to reinstall your programs your settings will not be the same when they

458
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,720
show up they go where's my where's my stuff yeah wait it's all in this folder

459
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:48,799
i'm like yeah your music is in the music folder okay but where's the library

460
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,840
and it's like well no it's in there you just got a little bite

461
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:57,120
and it's just i mean yeah i've had people actually break down with tears

462
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,720
because they didn't remember their email password yeah your email password was in

463
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:04,320
the i'm like i can't get you that it's like

464
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:09,760
yeah and the email password's an interesting one too because one of the biggest things is

465
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,039
is uh like they won't have a password manager they won't have written their

466
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:18,080
passwords down which i guess that's good but they won't know how to log into

467
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,600
anything yeah and it's just like it's

468
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,720
painful carrying those sessions over would be super nice yeah what they're

469
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,960
paying for is not for you to transfer the data they're paying for the half hour conversation you're going to have

470
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:32,399
about every single program yeah yeah there's some people that it's it's literally it's just not even worth

471
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,200
uh upgrading the computer because they would just lose all their stuff yeah

472
00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:38,960
it's like okay well i guess i'll deal with a slow terrible experience because

473
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,919
it's better than losing all my programs and all my settings and

474
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,840
all my logins and all that kind of thing yeah and that especially winds up being true in broadcast or in the music

475
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:49,440
business because people will have certain plugins and if you upgrade to a

476
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:54,480
new operating system they won't they won't work anymore and you'll have to find alternatives or this program like

477
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:58,159
once they get a rig that works it works and they just they want to keep it as is

478
00:31:55,919 --> 00:32:01,360
and that stuff can cost a lot like a new operating system will mess up this is

479
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,159
always used to happen with os 10 in pro tools new os pro tools wouldn't work

480
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,000
right or it's just that stuff can be a nightmare for people

481
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:11,760
yeah the copy protection they bury things

482
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,200
somewhere on the system uh and sometimes it's just a software

483
00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:19,519
compatibility thing both of those things are terrible

484
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,840
what is it like on Linux because i've never actually tried every single Linux

485
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,919
version that i've had has been full pure from scratch every time so that's a

486
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,279
that's an interesting question i've never tried to migrate from machines

487
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:36,240
mostly it's okay so like i have um i have a file that

488
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,600
customizes the command line and provides some aliases and shortcuts

489
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,240
and stuff like that and i've been working on that for 20 years and i've never lost it and it's great and it's

490
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,519
just like the best thing ever so it's like literally 20 years of preferences

491
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:53,200
in that file other stuff that's the most Linux thing i've ever heard

492
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,720
other stuff not so good like other stuff the migration is a little bit more of a

493
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,600
pain one of the things that ubuntu has done

494
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,000
recently is they have this thing called snaps and so because you you like you

495
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,360
have this version of this library that this program needs and you need a

496
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,279
slightly different version of that library for some older program that can

497
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:15,600
be problematic to run those combinations of things and so one of the things that

498
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:20,000
snaps does for you is that it packages all of your dependencies inside this

499
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,440
file which uses more space but makes it aware that you have to worry about being

500
00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:27,760
able to run those things less so in terms of like i want to migrate all my programs and just be able

501
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,760
to run it with those kinds of technologies generally you're a lot more

502
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,399
successful but like a lot of the things with like caden live caden live is a

503
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:40,399
great example because we get lots of support requests for caden live on our forum cadenlab is a great program but 90

504
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:45,519
of the problems with caden live not actually caden live it's the libraries there are bugs in the libraries and so

505
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:49,360
you can have audio sync issues and things like that and that is just the

506
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:53,120
libraries on the system and so snaps can help with stuff like that on ubuntu cool

507
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,039
and other technologies on other distros can help with that so

508
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,799
it's very user respecting but it's still not quite

509
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:06,320
as slick of a solution as it could be right i am going to

510
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,840
take this slight intermission to do

511
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,480
something that i actually completely forgot that i had to do which is

512
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:15,679
sponsors so just give me a sec guys sorry

513
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:20,879
first up we have private internet access uh internet access uh is a vpn you guys

514
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:24,800
probably know what it is at this point uh it has encryption authentication

515
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,200
services it works for Windows macOS Android iOS Linux

516
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:34,320
again it still says Linus in the dock it drives me nuts it does not work on Linus

517
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,839
it works on google chrome and it has support for several other platforms

518
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,280
coming soon you can connect up to five devices under one account at the same

519
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:46,639
time so you can have like your phone and your laptop and your desktop and whatever else all connected uh it has an

520
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,079
internet kill switch so if your vpn disconnects for whatever reason it will

521
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:53,520
disconnect you from the internet so that you don't accidentally send any data

522
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,639
under a non-encrypted channel and you can check it out today in the

523
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:02,960
link in the video description or this thing here

524
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:05,680
pia.com pages Linus tech dot earth dash

525
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,680
tips there we go uh next up we've got savage jerky which we have a box of beef

526
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,800
jerky here so you guys don't have to talk but if you want free beef jerky um

527
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:18,560
just go ahead and i'm in the original oh i ended up with cabernet this is not

528
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:22,000
good you can get a different one if you had the habanero or the mojo habanero

529
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,839
earlier wasn't that bad what happened yeah that's what three or four is it uh

530
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,800
i don't remember we're gonna go for a nice safe teriyaki there you go are we gonna try this now

531
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,079
you can if you want i don't care you can also just take it home if you want it

532
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:37,839
doesn't really matter uh their jerky is made with the best ingredients without

533
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,880
nitrates or preservatives their goal is to create a snack that is full of flavor

534
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:46,160
and spice that isn't bad for you they've got 13 different flavors of jerky we've

535
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,200
got which one is this teriyaki and

536
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,480
original here um well teriyaki is pretty

537
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,960
good yeah teriyaki

538
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,040
my favorite one is mojo jalapeno if i remember correctly

539
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,119
um that one's that one's actually pretty good they have sauces which i don't

540
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,720
think we've shown on the show before but this one is reaper hot sauce so that's

541
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,720
made with carolina reaper careful with that one and then this one is mojo

542
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,040
jalapeno so that's my favorite jerky and now they have a sauce for it so that's

543
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:17,200
pretty cool um original is my fiber

544
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:22,280
it's pretty good there you go use offer code LTT to save 10 off on all of their

545
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:26,960
products at savage jerky.com and then the last sponsor i

546
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:33,280
really wonder what the notes are for this it's in all capital letters it says it's

547
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,800
going to be dope it's tomorrow july 14th get your tickets now we will have

548
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:43,760
tickets at the door but the quantity will be limited smiley face ltx expo.com

549
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:48,160
uh so yeah if you live like within range of richmond bc um and you weren't

550
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:52,880
already planning to come to ltx come come hang out it's gonna be awesome

551
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:54,720
there's gonna be people there

552
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,599
i don't know i don't know if there are badges you want a badge i want a badge

553
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:03,280
we'll make you a badge yeah we'll make sure you get a badge you don't need a mattress

554
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:06,800
start playing the badger the only video and

555
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:11,599
10 hours of badger that's it no more no more sponsory stuff

556
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,960
um i'm still gonna enjoy your sponsor for a minute oh do it go ahead yeah i've

557
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,800
done that for the entire rest of the show sometimes before are you gonna be at ltx are you coming cool yeah yeah

558
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,119
cool i wasn't sure he's gonna offer to break your iphone and then fix it

559
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,880
oh boy i don't have an iphone or anyone now i want to go get one because that

560
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,880
would be cool

561
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,960
he'll smash your screen and replace it on site nice that would be great are you

562
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,599
doing something at a booth are you just kind of wandering around

563
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,960
i wasn't even informed uh anyone sitting here was going to be here until like the

564
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,680
beginning of this week and then i only knew you were going to be here until today so i'm actually quite excited we

565
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:52,880
talked about that earlier i actually knew for three months yeah

566
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:57,599
communication around these parts is just absolutely fantastic yeah i just thought

567
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,839
i knew how to open or close an imac oh

568
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,880
was that his whole okay i told him like yeah you realize i've had employees to

569
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:08,079
like put those back together for the past five years

570
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:13,599
you don't know how to open or close this and i used to

571
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,720
figure it out yeah i'll just grab the board and go blink and he goes

572
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,079
and then the whole thing started chipping that was about oh yeah when i was just oh i don't think it's fitting

573
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,400
and i'm like yeah let me just push it hard

574
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,000
no spoilers but i legit got anxiety watching you guys work on that imac i

575
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:33,520
turned around and sat down on the wall like i didn't even like i was out of

576
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:38,079
eyesight because i was getting anxious watching i gave him the same service

577
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,079
that would give every customer

578
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,680
that's the uh that's the best ad i think i've ever heard no i've had like a store

579
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:49,440
manager come to me and say can you stop like showing us reading the letters that

580
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,640
customers write on screen because i'll be sitting there fixing a board and i'll

581
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,160
go oh this Thunderbolt doesn't look viewing or the other usb circuit looks

582
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,040
messed that we can always put that stuff back on later you don't really need that

583
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,200
and i'm saying it's kind of a joke because i'm going to get rid of that circuit and i'll put it back on once it

584
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,320
turns on but there'll be people watching going oh my god what is he doing to my

585
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,320
board they don't call them and say is that my word on the screen that you just ripped all that stuff off

586
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,599
you should know what you were getting

587
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,040
that's fantastic why is everyone spamming numbers i don't understand

588
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:26,880
i'm just going to mass ban people oh some people type f i don't know what that's terrible either that is f is pay

589
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,800
respects right yeah yeah people keep doing this so that's a that's a call of

590
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:34,720
duty meme where uh you you like walk up to i believe

591
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:40,160
they're lowering the coffin of your like friend into the ground you're your

592
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,760
friend and fellow soldier um and you

593
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,560
like you have to press f on your keyboard type r for respect

594
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:50,400
what is f i think f is just like it's like an easy macro key so if your

595
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,680
fingers are on like what yeah you can well usually the two interact keys on

596
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,680
the game on a computer yeah i've never played

597
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,359
oh everyone's spanning f i thought everyone was doing numbers and i was like all right i'm just going to go

598
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:06,000
start banning people but you know what f is okay is it because the stream died

599
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:08,960
no it's just not showing here this is oh okay yeah

600
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:12,320
my eyes aren't great so i'm like trying to monitor the chat from here you have good enough internet that you could

601
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:17,680
watch your own stream while you're streaming it that's on two different devices oh yeah you're experiencing new

602
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:20,800
york internet i'm so sorry if somebody if i play the stream while i'm watching

603
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,920
it i'll get dropped frames this guy from rush actually maybe a little plug-in for

604
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,200
open broadcast or it'll say this many frames stolen by time warner with a

605
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,040
little logo and it'll go up and it matches the open broadcast account why

606
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:36,079
is internet in new york pat oh it's real bad it's right we've done news stories

607
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:39,359
on it it's so controlled it's such like there's so many little agreements from

608
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,640
all the little isps there that they don't compete with one another that

609
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,160
there's basically no service or infrastructure upgrades last 15 20 years

610
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:51,359
you either have verizon dsl in my location which is three megabit down and

611
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,440
point seven megabit up for or you get uh

612
00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:57,119
time warner which is 20 megabit up half the time for 409 plus tax the hotel i'm

613
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,400
staying at the hotel i'm staying at enrichment right now gives me 0.6 down 0.1 up oh i

614
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,760
went to upload a video today using the connection upstairs and i thought oh it

615
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:09,040
says six minutes remaining i must have uploaded the wrong file

616
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,640
audio by itself and it's like no that's 18 gigabytes and it says six minutes

617
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:16,480
remaining it's like at home and it'll say yeah 14 hours your video will be

618
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:20,480
yeah wow that's weird because like we have i couldn't operate

619
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,200
australia is horrible for internet and i've been learning that doing the flow

620
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:29,760
plane stuff that i've been doing speaking of which sponsorspot Floatplane.com heck yeah scrappy awards

621
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,560
this weekend okay i'm done um but uh

622
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,560
it's like even just getting servers like renting a server in australia is

623
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,920
ludicrously expensive because the internet's so crazy expensive and canada

624
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:43,359
has uh a similar problem of one of the problems

625
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:46,480
that australia has which is large landmass not a ton of people they also

626
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:50,880
have the problem of being kind of isolated and kind of off the main path

627
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:55,599
of most of the undersea cables but uh canada's problem were all extremely

628
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:58,640
spread out we all of canada has less population than just the state of

629
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,160
california and then a massive country so you put

630
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:06,560
those two together and it's not a really great combination luckily we're all

631
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:10,560
mostly nestled in these like cities that dot around the country so like vancouver

632
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:17,440
itself does pretty well this place has 1000 down 1 000 up uh my house

633
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:20,720
my like random suburbia house has fiber

634
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:24,000
uh 150 down 150 up

635
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:27,680
and i pay significantly less than you do

636
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:30,319
409 a month is like it's 4.67

637
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:34,560
409 a month for what 460 after time it's 20 megabit up 300 megabit down but the

638
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:39,200
20 megabit up it's like sometimes 20 sometimes 10 sometimes five sometimes i

639
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,720
actually had to get verizon dsl along with the time warner because the

640
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,680
time warner goes down so often that i got a pfsense router that will

641
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:50,079
automatically switch over to the hundred dollar a month verizon dsl when it dies

642
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:53,520
so that i can still process credit cards wow that's pretty typical for new york

643
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,400
yeah so i expect the time warner that costs 409 a month to go down often

644
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:01,280
enough that it's worth it to have another connection like me my studio is

645
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:05,520
in the greater la area and i've got 300 by 300 fiber for 99.

646
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:11,520
it's pretty yeah i'm paying i believe it's 99 uh but

647
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:15,520
i had like a signing bonus lowered for a temporary period of time thing for a

648
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,400
while now uh for my one there's a new construction

649
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,160
a little bit like 30 minutes south of where i live and there were big old

650
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,040
billboards as they were like you know getting the land ready that it's going

651
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,520
to be it was a fiber community or gigabit community

652
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:33,040
and it's like it was like 59 bucks a month the other thing is uh on the

653
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:37,119
commercial side so like a lot of commercial internet is often much worse

654
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:41,119
than residential internet at the lower tier just because vra's in the time

655
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,960
warner in those companies they want at least twenty five hundred dollars a month for the internet connection even

656
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:53,480
if the companies like and they try and guarantee that ninety nine point nine percent up time which is absolutely

657
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:53,480
pg with something yeah

658
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,160
yeah i've had to put a sign up on the door enough time to say cash only no

659
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,319
internet yeah that is so aggravating when you know that you're spending over 450 dollars on

660
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:08,480
internet i'm going to say with both of those internet connections that's insane

661
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:11,520
oh right uh is this

662
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,800
local to ltx only or can you buy this stuff online

663
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:21,280
can you buy it online no no none of it

664
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:26,160
okay so if you're watching this and are going to be at ltx nice little combo you

665
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:30,720
can get a TechLinked pin an ltx lanyard which has like uh some

666
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:38,400
actually pretty cool graphics and stuff on it and a little quick disconnect thing at the back oh my um

667
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:40,640
this shirt which i've never seen before

668
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:45,520
oh yeah i have this is pretty cool this is just like a straight up Linus

669
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,520
tech tips shirt uh

670
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:53,599
what no notice there's guys oh okay okay okay this one's one of my favorite i

671
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:58,160
don't really understand why we did this but i think it's awesome

672
00:44:55,599 --> 00:45:02,640
it's it's one of the editors uh so this is one of the editors dennis just

673
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:07,040
making a face on a shirt it's great i i personally love it but i

674
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,920
can understand how uh some people might think it's a little a little funky uh

675
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,040
then i think we just have two other yeah these this is the Linus tech tips like

676
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:21,680
circuit logo shirt so there's basically different earlier edition graphics being given out

677
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:25,280
or being sold to ltx i believe so yeah this is another one of the circuit

678
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,760
designs um i thought there was another shirt as well but that might have been

679
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:35,680
only for the vip people i'm not really sure uh but yeah you can buy cool shirts

680
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,280
at ltx uh if you are watching this and

681
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:42,000
going to be there and didn't notice that you could buy shirts

682
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:46,800
and happen to see this there we go best ad spot ever

683
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:49,520
yeah um what was i going to say next one thing

684
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:53,760
that i wanted to get through and i think we we might have time is because i always

685
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:59,119
find this quite interesting and we'll again actually we'll switch it we'll go

686
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,960
from this way over uh what got you into

687
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:05,760
computers and technology in general my dad my dad after the military he was a

688
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:10,000
project manager and he was one of the he was one of the first

689
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:14,720
i don't say pioneers but he was a vp a senior vp for a company that was

690
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,480
building mainframes and and doing you know crazy old-school tape drive backups

691
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:22,160
and stuff and he basically talked to the company was like guys we need to get off

692
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:26,079
the mainframe and we need to get into computer uh project management

693
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,319
computer-based stuff pc stuff and this was back in like

694
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,640
80 and they didn't listen to him and of course

695
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:37,280
that company went belly up because they were one of the leaders in the mainframe and everyone was getting off the

696
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,319
mainframe and but he uh so when when that happened he ended up going to

697
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,040
business for himself writing project management software and from my

698
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:48,960
earliest memories i was always on his lap while he was on the computer doing

699
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,680
his thing and he had no that he said the best thing he ever did for me was when i

700
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,319
would try and touch the computer he never was like no no don't touch don't touch he was always like he would save

701
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,400
his work and just be like have fun just type away and mash on the keyboard so he

702
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,079
never once told me i couldn't touch anything right so i've always done that

703
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:09,119
with my kids it's kind of gone you know three generations or two

704
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:11,920
generations at this point now my youngest daughter now is she's three and

705
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:18,640
a half and showing interest in the computer which is i think is fantastic sure um so yeah it was it was just my

706
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:22,720
dad and that was just life was computers and

707
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:26,160
as long as i remember so it's that simple i think i've told my story a

708
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,640
million times so i'll i'll do a very brief version of it uh but i i just

709
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,800
wanted to play diablo and the computer stopped working so i learned how to fix

710
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:38,400
it so i could keep playing diablo um and it's gone from there uh there's there's

711
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:43,599
longer versions but you've probably heard a million times it's i i don't really i mean i don't

712
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:47,920
really know where to start there was i find yours kind of interesting because you were like super in the middle of

713
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:53,040
nowhere right yeah i was i was super in the the the first event

714
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:57,839
really that led to that was uh there was this old guy and well i was sort of

715
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,880
bored in school and they were trying to figure out how to deal with that because

716
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:05,280
it was like kindergarten or first grade or something and there was an old guy

717
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:08,640
visiting from the stevens institute and he's like all right let's figure this

718
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:14,000
out so we set up an apple ii to with like a wooden break to measure

719
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:16,880
your reaction time when like you hit the thing it would it was like a basic

720
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:23,280
program that would run and tell you what your reaction time was for like breaking in a car and so he walked me through

721
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:26,720
soldering wires into something inside the apple ii and then writing a program

722
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,280
on the apple ii and doing all the stuff and i was like i have to learn more and so when you were in kindergarten in

723
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,920
grade one i was very young yeah that's quite because that's a project because i

724
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,200
like took everything apart i got in trouble for taking apart like the tv

725
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,680
yeah in school which is what led to that

726
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:46,800
okay i was i needed a machine to work on some

727
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:50,640
sessions in logic pro and the studio that i was working at it closed down so

728
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:54,960
i bought a macbook because i was broke used on ebay and it arrived broken i got

729
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,000
a discount on it so i bought uh the screen that i needed to fix it and then

730
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,119
when i didn't need it anymore i sold it and i realized i made a profit of two or

731
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:05,839
three hundred dollars so i thought let me do this again so i was buying and reselling them for a month or two then i

732
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:11,520
wanted to i started offering the services to other people i didn't think it was economically viable but then i

733
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,280
realized the part is 80 to 90 and apple charges 1200 at the time to replace the

734
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,480
entire screen assembly so i just kept doing that over and over again people

735
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:21,680
started bringing liquid damaged ones eventually so i started sending them off

736
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,520
to a company in china that would fix them they were doing worse and worse job

737
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,359
as time went on so i figured if i've been working on recording studio

738
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:33,200
equipment and consoles at component level let me see if i can figure out how

739
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,559
to do this so after a lot of i think a few years of painfully messing around

740
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,000
and bailing a lot and recording a lot of it for youtube i got decent enough at it

741
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,280
that i could offer it to regular customers and that was that i think the youtube thing

742
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,880
started from uh making a video because reseller ratings was trying to up the

743
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,559
rate by about a thousand percent so i did a video on their process that got

744
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:56,160
120 000 views that i thought would get 10 and

745
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:01,040
that was that cool and you you've mentioned audio stuff a few times

746
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,400
uh this way in show so what what was your involvement in the music

747
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:07,680
industry i worked at i went to avatar studios and i said that i would i

748
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:12,800
remember saying something like i would rather wash the toilets here than work at any

749
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:15,839
other place for money and i remember i showed up from my interview and the guy

750
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:21,200
asked what is this thing that i had in my pocket and it was a semi headphone amplifier that i put together myself

751
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,400
from stuff that i bought on ebay and he said you're hired i think that was roy

752
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:28,240
hendrickson that hired me so i worked there and i cleaned the toilets and i

753
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,440
cleaned the you know all the the floors and the consoles and everything

754
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:34,160
for three months and then i uh after working there for free after three

755
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,920
months i got to work in the tech room with the other people working on ssl

756
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:42,480
consoles and eve consoles to retape machines and that was that cool sweet it

757
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,839
was fun i think with that we are oh no we have about 10 minutes

758
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:53,040
left let's see if there's any actual topics to talk about

759
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,280
uh no topics no no turns out recycling

760
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:58,240
garbage in like the poor part of the thing that's also a really good way to

761
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:02,880
get technology that's how i got most of my first computers it's like let's

762
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,839
frankenstein stuff together i think i feel like

763
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:10,400
most people that are into computers have a similar story that like my favorite

764
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:13,440
one is uh i went to a like a country high school we didn't have very much

765
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,079
money especially not in the tech departments and uh

766
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,839
the way that we built a new computer lab because we needed one really badly because there's a lot of kids in the

767
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:25,280
school that were interested in computers it was just designed as a country school

768
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,800
so it was the most trades and stuff the way we built a new computer lab was

769
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,359
my teacher waited for the truck that went to all

770
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:36,559
the different schools and picked up all their broken computers because they did it once every like few years and called

771
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,359
him the guy directly i don't know how you got his number and diverted him to

772
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:44,079
our school which i really originally what he wasn't planning to go to because we had no computers to give up and he

773
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,000
was like yeah we got some stuff just like leave the truck for a little while

774
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:51,119
and he left the truck and we offloaded everything that was on there which was

775
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:55,920
like not supposed to happen i'm not going to say your name but thank you very much teacher um because i think the

776
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,920
hard drives and stuff that were on there yeah but we took everything we shoved it all in

777
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,160
one room and then my teacher was just like okay bye thank you leave now um and

778
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:07,839
we spent the next few months that whole computer class

779
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,520
just like we would like oh my goodness okay this motherboard actually works

780
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,480
let's find all the cpus and all the RAM and everything that can go into this

781
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:17,920
board and test all of it and mark everything as good or bad and like find

782
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,839
all the use those to find all the motherboards that work and like

783
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:26,240
we ended up building like one and a half computer Labs out of it that was a

784
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:29,920
really really cool project we had uh i was accused by the time i

785
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:32,800
made it to high school i was accused of black magic because the local repair

786
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,800
place would always replace the motherboard whenever a ps2 whenever a

787
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,280
kid would something the ps2 ports were really bad because like if you pulled

788
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:42,880
the keyboard the wrong way blow the fuse on the motherboard and so it was not

789
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,760
surface mount it was through hole it was really easy to replace and i would be

790
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:49,520
like well let's just crack it open take the motherboard out and replace the

791
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,960
the through-hole fuse and the local computer repair company was like black

792
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,680
magic witchcraft burn him burn him at the stake

793
00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:00,800
we got to replace the motherboard we can't just repair them that's like three cents we can't do it

794
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:06,000
so yeah that was not fun in a poor high school where they can't afford a thousand bucks a machine

795
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,880
to replace stuff and you i'm just i don't know why i'm

796
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:14,720
jumping back to this now i kind of skimmed over it when you were first telling the story but uh you built a

797
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,800
amplifier you said it was a semoy means they have all these guides online and

798
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,920
how to build them it's a headphone amplifier that you build into an altoids can that's powered off a nine volt

799
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:25,599
battery so what got you into that though i just enjoyed hi-fi audio okay yeah

800
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:30,000
yeah yeah so you wanted to like kind of build something yeah i just thought it was something cool to do in my spare

801
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,680
time and i've seen uh if i remember correctly you have those like the i'm

802
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:38,319
going to use the wrong term but the sound dampening panels yeah those sound

803
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:43,280
dampening piles uh panels yeah yeah yeah piles of cat yeah in my office and at

804
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:47,359
home yeah are you still into custom hi-fi stuff yeah yeah cool what's what's

805
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,319
like the most recent custom hi-fi project you've done uh like just the

806
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:54,480
vanderstein set of speakers that i have at home you really don't need really expensive stuff to make it sound good

807
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:58,079
you can find new stuff online like vanderstein speakers for four hundred

808
00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:02,240
dollars a cheap amplifier and some of those uh corning 703 panels and it'll

809
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:06,559
sound amazing yeah i've i've actually been for a while now i've wanted to copy

810
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:11,040
your your sound dampening panel project you just can't have a cat because if you

811
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,040
have a cat then yeah yeah

812
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:18,000
they use it as a scratching post they've made it that entire section of my apartment look like garbage

813
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:24,400
that's right the cat is cute so it gets away you worked in it for quite a while

814
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:27,680
um i had several hats in that company um but i worked

815
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,280
very close well i started actually doing energy audits and stuff

816
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:36,160
within the company and we also wrote our own software to run on various devices

817
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,040
either ipads or the samsung devices i mentioned

818
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,040
and we had major contracts with the power companies and then

819
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:46,000
rit department was extremely overworked and supporting all these devices

820
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:49,680
upgrading getting ready to go repairing them

821
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:53,839
and we also had our in-house you know a software development team and then the

822
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:58,319
more they realized that i was the guy that was actually going around

823
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:01,119
in the field helping other people people so get a problem you have to call in to

824
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,880
the help desk right and our help desk was three guys trying to support a

825
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:08,400
company of 350 field agents and it was like that could get overworked really

826
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:12,720
easy yeah and that was the same rit department of three was the same guys

827
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:18,000
also building and managing our um three country-wide six major cities

828
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,760
vpn that kept all of our offices in communication so if they were doing that

829
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,440
or they were out at a data center or something we were just like

830
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,240
down in person yeah so i was the guy that everyone started calling out in the

831
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:32,480
field to come help them if they had tech problems with their equipment or something was broken needed it fixed

832
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,319
when the company realized i was doing that then they were like hey do you want

833
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:39,520
to manage our help desk and i was like i don't know we'll see so

834
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:42,960
because i knew i had all the end user experience as well as the technical

835
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:46,480
know-how to keep it all working well once i got into that role they realized

836
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:51,680
i also knew an okay amount of uh coding and design

837
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,440
from my dad being a project a software developer so then they were like you

838
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,599
want to be a part of our qcqa team if you're part of our automated testing and i'm like wait so you want me to do help

839
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,599
desk management and this so basically i ended up having like these three hats at

840
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,640
one time um which really burned me out to be honest

841
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,839
because i did that for almost 10 years right and then that was when i started

842
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:16,960
doing the youtube thing and just kind of moved out of there but it was fun i learned a lot um obviously it was unique

843
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:20,400
to have this kind of a venn diagram of experience right all three of those

844
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,799
aspects you know development support and then end user

845
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,079
which uh really gave me a unique understanding of what it's like from top

846
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:32,480
to bottom when it comes to product testing and use yeah so i i try and take

847
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:37,040
everything from a very practical perspective of how i approach tech

848
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,960
but i do have a a very high level knowledge too on where a lot

849
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:44,240
of it starts and but i try not to really go into any of that in my content

850
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:48,160
because i leave stuff for that like wendell and gamer's nexus yeah the guys

851
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:52,400
who can actually communicate in that in a manner which people can understand

852
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:56,079
because i'm very good at practical use but i'm very bad at technical

853
00:56:53,839 --> 00:57:00,400
explanation okay so and i'm going to take something that you

854
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:05,520
said and something that you explained uh but so you you got into youtube because

855
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:09,119
you wanted to kind of express annoyance from who was it customer reseller rating

856
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:13,760
resellers.com uh and you mentioned that you started to get

857
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:18,480
into youtube at that time but why did you start to get into youtube it was a

858
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,680
dare oh someone dared me okay um so i

859
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:24,400
was live yeah well i was live streaming um

860
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:27,680
call of duty three close co close quarters when it launched because nick

861
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,520
coconut monkey and i were good friends we played that all the time and i had

862
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:36,400
started live streaming it because when when it dropped for um premium access

863
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:39,440
early access he was like with a family on vacation he couldn't play it so he's

864
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:44,160
all butthurt so i basically was like okay i'll find out how to stream it so you can watch and see the early access

865
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:47,920
um another gentleman by the name of holiday doc came in and just randomly

866
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:52,000
found my stream and he was a pretty well known like call of duty codcaster for

867
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:54,640
like mlg and he just thought that i was funny and entertaining and we became

868
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,559
friends and after a couple of months he's like you should do youtube people would find

869
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,760
like this tech stuff interesting because i became like the guy he asked pc

870
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:07,200
questions to because he didn't know anything about pcs and then he was like you should do stuff

871
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,720
like this on youtube i said and then and at the time i didn't know Linus tech

872
00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:15,440
tips i didn't know people made livings on youtube i was this is 2012 i was

873
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:18,400
super ignorant to what was going on i was like who the heck would watch a

874
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:22,079
channel about computers that sounds like the most boring thing

875
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,599
anyone would ever spend their time doing he's like well just try it so he i

876
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,480
basically told him i'll i'll try it but what it fails will you leave me alone

877
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:34,319
he kept bugging me about doing it and so i was like fine i'll try it and then of

878
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:38,160
course it just sort of steadily took off and i've since like built him a computer

879
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:42,400
and sent him parts yes you're pushing me it's it's one of

880
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:47,760
those things where i only did it to show that it would not work yeah and fast

881
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,319
forward six years it's now my it's not incorporated and it's now

882
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:55,520
helping other people pay their bills because now i have employees so it's crazy

883
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:59,280
i uh that's that's actually really cool and i like the part where you sent them

884
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,119
a computer and parts and stuff that's kind of cool to pay it back i i

885
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:08,400
got into youtube because uh i was like really really into

886
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:12,079
mechanical keyboards like before america really had very many

887
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,079
mechanics that sounds rare but people are like really into that yeah it it

888
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:18,400
there there's there's forums dedicated to it and stuff it's just not that big

889
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:23,359
of a community um and i had like i had my own like

890
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,920
imported from taiwan keyboard and all this kind of stuff and i wanted to show

891
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:31,200
it off because i was proud that i had finally actually gotten a mechanical keyboard instead of just researching

892
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,720
them online all the time uh so i filmed a video of that and then never released

893
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,520
it and now there's uh some people have watching this have probably seen it but

894
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:40,880
there's a video of lioness and i watching that video both just

895
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,599
essentially maybe yeah because that was when it was like critiquing your first video like that a

896
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:49,599
lot of people were doing that yeah yeah so we we critiqued a video that no one

897
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:53,200
had seen because it was never released anywhere right um so that the director's

898
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,880
commentary thing we were talking about like as it's airing and then you're so embarrassed because you're like oh my

899
00:59:55,359 --> 01:00:00,880
god i can't believe i said that yeah by the time you think like you nailed this video you go back and you look and

900
00:59:59,359 --> 01:00:04,319
you're like wow i'm an idiot especially because i said something that was like

901
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:09,520
factually incorrect what was your first mechanical keyboard uh dk 9008 g2

902
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:15,920
from ducky oh see i mean ducky's announcement it's still the keyboard that i yes

903
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,520
my first was a razer black widow oh yeah

904
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,119
okay i remember i mean it was nothing super special but it was a blue switch

905
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:24,400
without that was super cool until i started streaming

906
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:27,359
i still stream with it i don't even care people are going to deal with it m or

907
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,440
bust do you use one i do okay i've got a

908
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:35,280
black model m actually actually that's cool a fairly impressive collection of

909
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:38,559
the uh ssk model amps as well the numpadless ones yeah i have a mask i

910
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,280
should be able to make it until i'm about 80 if i only use

911
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:46,720
the ssks because that's pretty sweet the model and the you know comp still makes

912
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:51,599
the model m but it's a little lighter it's not quite construction yeah um the

913
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,559
the earlier ones are better the later ones they've gotten a lot of money from

914
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,880
like the healthcare industry and stuff so unicomp is making higher quality products than they were even a couple of

915
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:04,480
years ago and uh there it's almost as good but

916
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,839
man those assets like it's nice the only thing i really missed

917
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,359
are the extra keys so i've had to like remap my keys for things on the right

918
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:18,480
side of the keyboard but it's not bad yeah i i have one properly functioning

919
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:20,000
model m but i generally don't use it

920
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,240
um i've got a bunch of the ones with the num lock you can totally have one

921
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,040
or with like the number pad yeah yeah that's fine that'd be cool i can even

922
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:31,599
give you new inbox i've got like four of those of like the original yeah holy cow

923
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:35,839
that would be pretty cool i will uh we'll we'll talk later

924
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:40,480
but uh how do you get into youtube um the very first video that i made was

925
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:45,520
actually even before the thing but like i used to well it's a long story but

926
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:48,799
even before all of that there is a video that i'm surprised that no one found and

927
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:55,440
it was when uh Windows vista came out i was so angry

928
01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:59,280
i probably should have been medicated and i was really worried about privacy

929
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:04,079
and things like that but i made a driver showing how NVIDIA had completely

930
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:09,680
screwed the pooch on 64-bit drivers under 64-bit vista they literally took

931
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:13,280
their 32-bit driver and pasted it into a

932
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:15,280
64-bit uh wrapper i was so mad i could

933
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,640
not see straight i was seething with anger because it was like you know right

934
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:25,200
up to the beta launching video was like really come out with a driver and then after vista went into production they

935
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:28,880
were like okay cool here's a real driver and it was still the same garbage that

936
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:32,000
had been for like the last six months before that and so there's a video on

937
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:36,559
youtube of me losing my mind and ranting about this

938
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,119
horrible pile of garbage driver that doesn't work and it'll work for five

939
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,359
minutes and then crash and the whole reason was that as soon as a program

940
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,960
would try to do anything outside of that 32-bit address space with that 64-bit

941
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:51,280
driver it would crash because it wasn't really a 64-bit driver

942
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:55,599
so there's that and that's the very first thing i did on youtube technically

943
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,760
i guess yeah if i want to be specific the very first stuff i did on youtube

944
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:03,280
was uh again this is the only reason why i thought of it even i usually forget

945
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:06,160
about this but you mentioned no one found it so far no one has found this i

946
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:10,559
checked a little while ago and it was still there i don't know why the titles are so bad it's probably why people

947
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:16,960
can't find it but no click bait here but uh this was i

948
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:19,039
used to do guides on how to get 100 sync

949
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:24,319
in like assassin's creed levels

950
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,520
and like no one cared it was great um so

951
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:29,599
what another thing i want to ask you about is you recently developed and

952
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:34,799
started selling why am i forgetting the name of them right now

953
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,720
yes you uh like multi-port kvms with

954
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:40,880
really really really high-end features so that was another thing that was made

955
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,319
me almost as mad but not quite as mad as the NVIDIA driver thing that's why i

956
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:47,920
brought it up and it was like all right i can do something about this this is

957
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:53,039
the thing that i can fix because the world of kvms for like 4k and like

958
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:57,280
displayport 60 hertz it's terrible it's really terrible

959
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:02,480
and most i know of even now are still like vga stuff yeah yeah and like the

960
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:07,200
usb functionality is like it's designed for like the five dollar usb keyboard

961
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:11,119
which has like one of three of the cheapest usb chips known to man but if

962
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,799
you get an RGB keyboard it doesn't work or if you've got like the Corsair

963
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,920
keyboards once the driver loads it's not even really a keyboard anymore and so

964
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:22,880
good luck getting that to work with the kvm and so i just i found

965
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,480
i found somebody in taiwan that had basically the hardware that i needed but

966
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:31,920
i got them to tweet the hardware for me and i got to do software that solves the

967
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:36,799
problems for people like us that would be trying to do things with a kvm that

968
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:40,319
has you know a 4k displayport 1.2 whatever and

969
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:45,440
i basically already had a customer lined up for them so i was just sort of selling the seconds but they sold so

970
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,559
well that we did two other runs and it is shocking the people that have come

971
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:52,319
out of the woodwork to buy the kvms and generally it's done really well uh

972
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:56,559
interestingly macs are the things that uh have the biggest problem like the the

973
01:04:54,559 --> 01:05:01,440
trashcan mac pros don't actually follow the displayport spec at all no way yeah

974
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:05,520
so that's the most surprised no way i've

975
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:05,520
ever heard

976
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,520
so they're a little problematic with max the modern max you have to use like a

977
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,720
Thunderbolt dock that has like a displayport socket you can't just use a

978
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,440
cheap cable and i don't know what that's about so i'm looking i'm working on that

979
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:23,119
yeah i know that the to every macbook with the since the touch bar with the dongle

980
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:27,359
if you use a dongle it's not the apple dongle your devices won't work yeah it's

981
01:05:25,359 --> 01:05:30,480
a rule i plan to do a real review of that and once i got to the point where i

982
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:34,160
plugged it in and i realized the dongle didn't work unless you use the 80 one

983
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:38,400
and the 30 one worked and the two other machines i had i just couldn't stop that

984
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:42,799
well the one of the design choices on the kvm is that it does not have a

985
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:47,200
repeater and so a lot of the signal is like a lot of the

986
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:52,079
signal out of that displayport cable is just barely enough that if it's going

987
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:56,240
into the monitor it's fine but if you send it in through the

988
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,839
connector and then into the kvm which is like another four inches of cable and

989
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:03,359
then back out again the signal noise ratio is not high enough for it to do a

990
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,760
proper digital sync or whatever on that cable and

991
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:11,920
it's infuriating because the spec says that it should be able to

992
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:15,839
push an unamplified cable that's like eight meters or something like that and

993
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,200
it you're lucky to get four i'd be interested in what chip sets the the

994
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:23,280
trash can one uses because i think i've only opened one of those ever it's a

995
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:26,160
d300 but it goes through i think it goes through the board in the bottom and then

996
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,920
back out the connector in the back and so they have a repeater or something

997
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:34,160
in the board in the bottom and that's the problem oh yeah because if i like

998
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:37,119
just solder a little dongle directly on the

999
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,000
d300 it's fine so you'd have to tell your customers to solder it directly to

1000
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,760
the mac pro yeah it's some some of the witchcraft

1001
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:48,880
after the d300 before it makes it out of the mac because i'm assembling

1002
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:52,559
yeah the you mentioned the like i think it was like four inches or whatever of

1003
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:55,280
cable within the within the box that was a i'm going to tangent here a fair

1004
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:59,200
amount but that was a really interesting situation when usb 3 start first started

1005
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:04,079
becoming popular and you'd have those cases that have front i o usb 3 but that

1006
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:06,799
were just cable extensions that would go all the way out the back of the case and

1007
01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:10,240
plug into the back your motherboard and then you'd have people with really long

1008
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,640
usb 3 cables so you'd have people with like 15 feet worth of total actual

1009
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:18,319
distance for usb 3 and then it won't charge their freaking devices that

1010
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:22,720
remains a problem on cases i mean the front panel usb 3 is still hit and miss

1011
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:25,440
it's still really a lot of cases yeah it's it's it's it's frustrating too when

1012
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:29,920
you we're finally in the era where it isn't those weird extensions that have to go

1013
01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:36,640
out the case and then into the motherboard in order to make it so you can plug in usb but they some cases will

1014
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:41,119
still have usb just like header cables for usb 3 that you could plug into a

1015
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,960
different case like it's like why is it so long this is actually really bad but

1016
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:49,280
yeah most people most people don't know about that that being said though i think we're going to cut it here because

1017
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,880
you have to grab a plane i have a flight yeah he has to get out of here uh thanks

1018
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:58,720
for watching the WAN Show this was a bit of a bit of a different way to do the

1019
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:00,720
WAN Show uh we half covered one topic uh

1020
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:06,160
but i think it was good it was fun to talk about a whole bunch of different stuff i'm going to let people shout out

1021
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:07,280
their channels again uh so lewis rossman

1022
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,760
group guesses 2 s's

1023
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,839
perfect there we go i will see you guys next week i will possibly see you guys

1024
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:24,930
at ltx i'm gonna enjoy some more of this savage i'll be there tomorrow do it

1025
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,679
uh

1026
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:56,239
yay private internet access for all your privates yeah ltx

1027
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:07,120
i need to get shilling scenes in open broadcaster dude it's great that's great

1028
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:07,120
i have to do it manually it sucks
