The WAN Show: R9 295 X2 Rumours, Windows 8.1 Getting BETTER - April 4th, 2014
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2014-05-07
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and like that's not really doing all right so those of you who are just
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joining us now uh we're live those of
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you who were here before well we're live but the show is kind of starting over so
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just bear with us for a couple minutes here while we go through our headline
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topics for the day and all of that other good stuff so Yahoo is allegedly making
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their own YouTube something that we kind of talked about mostly already so we're
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not going to get into too much depth with it the
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R9295 allegedly rumored has been leaked
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that is AMD's upcoming dual GPU graphics card allegedly allegedly allegedly uh
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we've also got some other interesting stuff this week so Mozilla CEO has
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resigned over an anti-gay marriage
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controversy something that I would like for us to try to take a balanced
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approach to rather than take one side or the other it's definitely something
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that's a hot topic right now there's about a 13page thread on the Linus Tech
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Tips forum about it and then something I really wanted to talk about it's just
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that's an observation of mine is whether or not the gaming laptop is dead as a
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product category so without further ado let's go ahead and get a quick you know
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as well so let's jump into our first topic and we're going to blitz through
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this one pretty quick since some of you have probably already seen it and that
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is that Yahoo is rumored to be working on their own YouTube i don't think
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they're going to call it Yahoo Tube yat yat yat
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yat is kind of like it's like even more casual than YouTube yeah yeah y i'm just
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gonna go watch on Y yeah y okay anyway
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um I I think either the Nordics or the
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uh you know who else would like it maybe the Jamaicans would like it it's like
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targeted at these particular regions
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it's like we're going to go after the Jamaican and Nordic market it's
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brilliant genius absolutely genius um so
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the rumor the word on the street and the original article that oh this was posted
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on the forum by no tech and um so the
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article that we were looking at from Guardian LV is says that Yahoo's CEO
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Marissa Mayor allegedly has been contacting YouTube content providers
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star talents and network channels with the promise of more money if they switch
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to the Yahoo service mind you to me the
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big challenge is of course the chicken and egg you can't have an audience
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without content creators you can't incentivize content creators unless you
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have a ginormous audience that you can drive traffic to their content with and
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I don't know if their approach of going after the premium content creators is
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necessarily right because that's part of what made YouTube so big and so hard to
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beat by competing well I mean Vimeo doesn't even really try to compete with them but that's what makes them so hard
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to surpass in terms of size by other
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video sharing services is the fact that they have this enormous mainstream
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appeal so you could take all the music videos all the Vivos of the world and
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move them over to Yahoo but then you've just basically turned yourself into a
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video streaming service unless you also have that community and if you create a
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community interaction model then it might go all Google+ on you and blow up
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in your face anyway and like if they if they try to buy people out and make it
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so they can't post on YouTube that would bring content over that you'd want to watch there but then that's really
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aggressive and is going to create some really awkward situations and if you
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don't do that people are just probably going to want to watch it on YouTube
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instead of YouTube anyways so I mean from my perspective actually this is
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something I didn't cover before so as a content creator what does Yahoo have to
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overcome to appeal to me just going to move the mic a little bit closer here i
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see a couple people saying the audio is a bit low it's not adjustable that probably
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sounded great whatever okay so what do they have to overcome number
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one is that even though YouTube takes
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45% right off the top of the advertising
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revenue that's generated by something like a True View instream ad before a
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video plays what YouTube is able to do
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is probably about I'd say double to triple my
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overall viewership by driving new
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viewers to old videos so when you look
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at a new video that we upload within the first let's say week that's probably
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unless it's something that really has legs in the long term something like our
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Xbox 3 or Xbox One versus PS4 image
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quality comparison unless it's something people are really going to be looking
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for in the longer term that's about 90%
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of what that video is ever going to get in terms of views yeah what YouTube does
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is it takes that video and drives people
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to it in the background compared to you
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know just us blasting it out to our subscribers now YouTube makes a lot of
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mistakes they don't send our videos to all of our subscribers there's a lot of
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stuff with the YouTube model but they
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kind of make up for it by
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keeping our content as prolific as possible and spreading it out so that
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even older content that we're not focused on anymore is still maybe making
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us two cents that day from the 40 people
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who watched it which adds up when you have 2,000 videos uploaded to the
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platform so if Yahoo's approach is going to be trying to get exclusivity deals
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with premium content creators without
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necessarily a plan for having that huge mass of viewers like on YouTube I I'm
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going to I'm going to go find something that's like like an ancient motherboard
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unboxing or something youtube has so
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much reach that even super old videos So
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motherboard unboxing let's try to find that even super old videos can generate
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revenue for you um so I I guess you know what's
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interesting is the I've I've been subscribed to our own channel on my
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private YouTube just so I know what we're releasing because a lot of the
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times I just don't film or work on something and then
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finish it and then it's like oh all right we'll see when that comes out I
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guess um so I subscribe to our own channel so I know what's even going on
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because people will talk to me about things that have released and I'll
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they'll be like in your most recent video blah blah blah and I'll be like I
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have no idea what you're talking about uh so yeah subscribe to our own channel
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the only thing that I get in my subscription feed is the WAN Show right
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i don't get anything else i have to go to the channel directly to get anything
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else in my subscription so on the flip side here's a motherboard unboxing from
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August 2011 here actually I can screen share here from August 2011 that has got
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a couple views you know let's say one view per day over the last month like
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how how is that even possible does anyone care about the Sniper 2Z68 board
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so without having that mainstream appeal
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you uh Yahoo Tube may suffer y Y if they
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call it Yub we want to cut we want to cut 10% cut that's the Linus Media Group
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cut that's the Linus Media Group cut 10% cut that's all we ask it's actually very
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reasonable it is y y
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terrible i love it all right let's move into our next headline topic we're going
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to try and compress the show a little bit because we started so late we're really sorry for that guys uh we are on
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a brand new dedicated line for the show
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so there you go all right uh over to my
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screen boom leaked this is allegedly and I can
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neither confirm nor deny a picture of the R9295X2
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AMD's rumored upcoming rumored to be
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dual GPU graphics card with what is rumored to be 8 gigs of GDDDR5 memory is
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rumored to have a radiator attached to
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it rumored rumored allegedly now we've seen implementations like this before
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with lowprofile like um you know guys
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like Coolit or Asetch make these things lowprofile pump block combo units on
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each GPU and then a fan to take care of
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cooling the rest of the components the memory the VRM and all of that good
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stuff but this would be the first time that we've seen a I mean it's going to
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be pretty niche but this would be the first time that we've seen a mass-
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prodduced product implement something like this right out of the box i mean
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it's happened yeah guys like Sapphire have done this kind of stuff was like
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here's a liquid cooled graphics card out of the box and Yeah yeah but this is the
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first time we've seen a reference design that's what I was Yeah I was going to
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say there's actually been like a few but not reference ones all right and when
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you say massproduced like I don't know how many of these are actually going to make either i have no idea i mean I do I
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could definitely see it being limited i do know that some of the I'm just going
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to move this again i do know that some of the dual GPU cards in the past have
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actually been fairly limited production run and they have intentionally kept the
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supply constrained because they know that if they just flooded the market
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with them there's no way they could sell them all anyway and uh so that may be
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AMD's strategy here keep it as a niche appeal item so the rumored suggested
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retail price is over
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$1,500 and when did this happen
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cuz it was always like a grand wasn't it yes and then it was like Titan Z nope
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well no no what started this actually I
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think we have NVIDIA to blame for this well we do titan but not Titan Z because
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Titan how much was Titan $1,000 for a
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single GPU card so they came in and they
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went "Okay we've got the 690 which is a dual GPU card we're going to put another
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card at that price point Titan at $1,000
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and that is our thousand tier card now that's a single GPU card
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if you want two of those which by the way is a miracle of engineering
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depending on the clock speeds that NVIDIA and AMD like both of them
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miraculous engineering but if you want two of these things on a card you got to
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pay more than a grand now like what happened
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i don't know cuz like it wasn't that long ago like personally who cares just
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buy two of the other one it's going to be so much better anyways and cheaper
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well we don't have a clear idea of what the clock speeds will be on this card
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but what is rumored allegedly is that it will have a total of
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5,632 stream processors making it two fullyfledged Hawaii XT cores boom did
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you say boo or boom boom boom boom like like boom as in like Yeah
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we should have sound effects on this show like on radio you probably haven't seen this but the Battlefield 4 Easter
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egg if you happen to make that water thing
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if you look close enough right when he hits the water there's like a fire
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explosion then it instantly switches to water if you look close enough it's
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there and if you follow the people's camera when they're in the water it's
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like it blows up but like only for a second it's how they're simulating the
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Yeah that's fascinating
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that is a cheap hack and I love it yeah
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taking advantage of the excellent water physics they already have in the game
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and a mechanic they've already built y
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if go look at that footage again pay attention and look for the the the like
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yellowy fire explosion that would happen from like a bomb in Battlefield 4 and
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watch it just disappear like right away touche dice touche yep i don't know how
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many people have actually noticed that but I love it i I had to segue to that
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because I was like "This somehow connects." And there we go done speaking
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of Connect lots lots of great Microsoft news this
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week although very little of it is to do with Connect if at all nothing's to do
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with Connect all right well hold on you could make the argument that Cortana
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could potentially be connected at some point yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah because
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I I don't see Microsoft putting a bunch of resources into an excellent voice
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control mechanism and then not putting it on the Xbox One which desperately
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needs it all right so Windows 8 will be free on
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devices under 9 in this is amazing and
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it pretty much makes me forgive Microsoft but not Google for that whole
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thing with not allowing tablets that run both OSS so our original source here is
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the Verge and the idea is that with
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phones and tablets this has been a huge
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roadblock for Microsoft gaining any market share because let me tell you
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from talking to guys like HTC about the
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kinds of constraints that they are under
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when building a cell phone they basically are at the mercy of the
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providers who say "Look we're going to sell it for this much under contract
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so whatever it costs you we don't care figure it out
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that is how that business works so for
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Microsoft to take some of the burden off of the handset makers to where they have
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to pay for the OS compared to Android which is free and iOS which Apple is
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obviously subsidizing in enough ways that they can just say okay well you
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know we don't have to charge ourselves for the OS because we're going to make
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money on the 30% cut we take on the app store we're going to make money on any
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kinds of purchases off of iTunes that
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this ecosystem builds they don't have to worry about the cost of the OS where now
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Microsoft is making Windows free on devices with screens under 9 in i love
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it it's very cool uh I saw a lot of people in the comments celebrating
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saying that they were going to install it i don't know yeah it's not that
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simple no I think this is more awesome because you're going to see it on more
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devices hopefully at a cheaper price point and stuff not necessarily because you're going to be able to like hack
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hack and doze your phone although that would be cool that would be pretty cool
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that would be really cool and like maybe that becomes a thing i don't know but right now it's like not so because I
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mean that's one of the big problems with Windows Phone it's the very limited
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hardware that's available that's another thing actually to segue into another
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topic which I don't even know where it is um but they're encouraging people to
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make cross-platform apps now so they're making it so if you make an app for the
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Windows Store on a Windows 8.1 PC it
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should hopefully also work on the phone right yeah no they're they're they're
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pushing much tighter integration across the platforms overall in fact I've got a
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YouTube video here that we can just go ahead and have a quick quick boo at this
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video is awesome yeah the video's super No it's not that one it's a different
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one uh the video is super short Windows
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and Windows Phone together and basically um Joe Belior just talks about how they
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want them to be better integrated and he shows a quick example okay he talks for
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a bit
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bloop bloop okay so he shows an example
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bloop come on bloop
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where he changes the background desktop
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wallpaper color so the theme on his
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phone and a few seconds later although they've edited the video so I have no
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idea how many seconds it actually took a few seconds later the the Windows
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desktop changes color as well and then
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of course they're going to work with um what do they call it now one drive the
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rebranding of Sky Drive so their cloud storage is going to be tightly
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integrated they want the apps to be tightly integrated so that you're having
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more of an ecosystem experience and that is ultimately how they're going to make
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this strategy work microsoft is making a big bet here because this is such a huge
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departure from their traditional business of selling you the OS upfront
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whereas now you look at the new strategy they're going to go "Okay
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well we still want you to buy Windows." Mind you they're slashing prices on
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Windows on Windows 8.1 for desktops as well by 70% for makers for device makers
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not for standalone so they're basically going "Okay look we're going to sell you
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much cheaper Windows for your desktop machine we're going to give it to you
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for your phone and your tablet and then
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we need to find other ways to make up that revenue." But I'm looking at some
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of the ways that they're doing it going "Wow this is really smart." So let's
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talk about Office for iPad for a moment here yep definitely office for iPad
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downloads reached 12 million
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collectively massive that is a big number i mean the number of iPads out
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there I think is estimated to be somewhere in the 150 million to 250
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million sort of range so if you look at that and go okay let's say even you know
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the higher number is more accurate that means that like 5% of iPad users are so
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tired of the other productivity solutions that they want Microsoft
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Office which let's face it is probably the only reason that a Surface RT ever
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sold a single unit two two quick questions before we keep going forward
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how long do you think until they rename it Office One instead of Office 365 and
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two what do you think the next word is going to be because right now everyone is naming everything something one well
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hopefully not Word one i I want word no
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I I don't mean word as in Oh that's confusing i don't mean word as in the program i mean word is in how everyone's
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using the word one like everyone's going to switch at some point
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they I hope I want I want word up
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it's worth a shot word up is the subscription one because it just constantly gets better yes okay tim Tim
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from Microsoft man I hope you're watching please like
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like send some emails okay it needs to be called Word Up like the step up model
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okay so anyway the free version of
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Office for iPad actually only supports a
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very limited set of features and the way that Microsoft wants you to give them
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money is by going for an Office 365
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subscription so it's $99 or more for a
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year and let's talk frankly about this for a moment does Office 365 make sense
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to you um I think we were we were
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talking earlier did my whole computer just lock up why do I have so many problems with laptops no it's all good
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um called about about No it's not it's
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called my previous laptop is really really old now and has problems and this
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one and do you like this laptop no
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anyway um uh was I going to say yeah we were
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talking about doing it for the business but it's really expensive because of how
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many subs we'd have to get y um for But it allows five devices and collaborative
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tools i mean but is it five different users no five devices per user so as a
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as a company that's a lot of subscriptions okay but if I want people
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to be able to work out of office more easily if I want them to be able to
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definitely do if I want them to like Okay no I mean great example of this is
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if I want to share um like a B-roll shot
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list with someone really easily that I
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kind of created but I need to finish up if I could edit that on my phone share
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it with the group and send a push notification how great does that make
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that would be really nice or if you can if you have your laptop and you want to
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be able to uh you know do a PowerPoint presentation on some other machine just
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being able to grab it the advantages are tangible and the cost compared to
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something like Creative Cloud which we already subscribed to for how much is
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Creative Cloud $80 a month per user I think excuse me not sure something like
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that and the cost is actually not that high if you look at it from a monthly
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perspective uh yeah Office 365 is five
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computers and five devices there you go so that's from someone in Twitch chat
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here and like that's cool and I can definitely see it for university kids
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because cuz I'm just so tired of other solutions although at the same time if
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you just bought whatever release version of Word was released at the beginning of
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your university life you could probably use it the entire time through but then
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it doesn't have all the integration and the live editing and collaboration
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honestly I see this being more of a feature for people that are going to have to like maybe business kids they're
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going to have to do a lot of collaborative work on big documents and
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and offices i don't know if it necessarily makes as much sense for us
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because we're going to spend a lot more of our time NVIDIA editing software i
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don't think any I don't think everyone here needs it no I think you need it and
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I need it probably but I think that Okay
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like how tired are you of Dropbox and
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like I've gotten to the point where because sometimes it doesn't sync
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correctly with Dropbox and you resave it and then it doesn't go elsewhere and
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like it's and even though I save on the server my massive massive Excel sheet
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which like I understand why it's crashing because it's massive because I
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keep everything in there but it can still crash and then that's catastrophic
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and it just doesn't work that well whereas if I can have something that
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just syncs correctly all the time I would pay money for that the problem and
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but again this is where Microsoft is still needs to get your money from you
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somehow is that it is only going to work with one drive so right now the iPad app
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has no integration with other services like Google Drive or Dropbox so they
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want to sell you cloud storage they want to sell you a subscription to their
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software but they're going to give you the OS for free
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it sounds crazy because it's Microsoft but is it really any different from what
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other guys are doing i just saw someone type in Twitch chat it It's not free
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because it's a subscription you idiots i have no idea what that guy means Windows
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will be free that's not a subscription oh is that what he interpreted from what
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we were saying yeah cuz we know we know Office 365 isn't free we I just spent
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like a while talking about how it might be too expensive for the company to
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adopt to it um but yeah I just like h I
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don't know all right so let's move on to Oh actually no there was more good
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Microsoft news I wanted to Ah yes the Windows 8.1 update so I think you're a
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big fan of everything that's going on here so maybe I'll play the video for
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them and you can kind of kind of talk while Joe talks or doesn't talk because
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he's muted so okay so go hard so I saw I
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saw a leak on The Verge i saw a leak on a bunch of other things new York Times
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which I was really scared of going to because of what they've done to me lately i feel like an abused child when
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it comes to the New York Times um some people will get that not everyone but
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this is a leak about different well not really a leak it's official uh about
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different things that are coming to Windows 8.1 update 1 they should have
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just called it Windows 8.2 but or Service Pack one or Service Pack one or
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something that they've done before but whatever everyone sucks at naming
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nowadays i know right so we'll just take it I guess um but they're stepping back
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and doing some things that they should have done for a long time and they're doing some of them in very interesting
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ways so they're doing stuff like you can boot and resume directly to your desktop
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yay super cool but then at the same time
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this is very easy to hack in yourself and why wasn't that a feature before anyway why wasn't that a feature before
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straight to desktop no modern UI seriously uh Windows Store apps can now
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open as Windows and can be pinned to the taskbar that is very cool because it's
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super frustrating when I open something and like the default program which I
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know I can change but still is a Windows app and then it's like how do I even get
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out of this how do I get back to what I was doing why is it my full screen all
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this other junk so now it can open as as as Windows on your desktop which is nice
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i mean I think the most offensive one there had to be the picture viewing app
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the default one oh my god it is the giantest steamingiest pile of garbage
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ever like it really is so I'm going to go ahead i'm just going to open up like
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one of my thumbnails and I'm going to intentionally open it with this terrible
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terrible application why you photos who knows why you would ever want to use it
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i have no idea okay so photos so I open
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it in this thing and it's like okay what can I do oh okay it's
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actually managing to switch between I've rarely even seen it be able to do that
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before i know so half the time it doesn't even do that how do I How do I
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make it full screen okay and then but then one thing is you're doing all this
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with a touchcreen as well and I'm doing this with a touchcreen it's it's a lot
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worse without a touch screen like I hate that thing a lot a lot worse it's the
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first thing that I that makes me realize that I'm on Windows 8 is see and then
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you're trying to press the escape button cuz you're like I want to out because it's a full screen application escape
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should make it not full screen cuz you're supposed to escape the application but anyways uh yeah now a
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thing going to be in Windows that's very nice they're also going to have minimize
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and close buttons in the top right hand corner which is going to be nice so if
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you're in full screen you can actually minimize it now it'll minimize it now
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although we're we just barely cut off so they can't see it awesome anyway that's
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great but yeah that that's there now which is awesome and again should have
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been there for a really really long time um they added media control to store
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apps in the taskbar although this was definitely already a thing in Windows 7
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but like they added it to the store apps which is like K well okay i don't that
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definitely should have just been like an automatic knee-jerk we need this to be a
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thing not a added feature but you can shut down the computer without dragging
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your mouse to the bottom corner carefully moving it up so you don't go
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outside of the little the little band there and then yeah so that's good happy
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that's back happy the search is there as well and then there's also now a tile
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icon for PC settings so there's like almost no reason to swipe in from the
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right anymore because that was super dumb so luckily that's no longer a thing
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um there's now right-click context menu for things in the modern UI junk which
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hopefully will never be in there anyways um and you can like move groups of
27:11
things around because you can now multi select by holding control again hopefully it'll just never be in there
27:15
anyways one thing about that though is that's not intuitive at all for people
27:20
who are like touchscreen computer operators it's like yeah you can
27:24
rearrange like that to me holding control to multi select is a power user
27:29
thing that's not something my mom does
27:32
so like even implementing features like that in modern UI it's like why are you
27:35
even spending the time yeah in modern UI yeah yeah definitely agree in in the
27:40
rest of the computer it's like okay that makes sense but that's already a thing yeah it's already a thing um so yeah I
27:44
hear you on that but then again hopefully you're just never going to use it anyways so who cares let them
27:48
innovate as much as they want um in the all apps section things are now
27:52
highlighted as you guys can probably see on screen nope he's not showing it
27:55
anyways um now if you go to all apps newly installed applications will be
27:58
highlighted so you can find them easily which is like all right cool I guess and
28:02
then what everyone actually cares about which we are still can't see is the new
28:07
start menu which I'm not very good at this it's just if you now click on the
28:11
start menu it shows a more classic styled start menu and then it has
28:15
Metroled um things on the right which is I
28:18
actually think is pretty cool um and the only place in here where I wasn't like
28:24
okay well I either hate modern UI and don't use it so don't care about any of
28:28
these changes or um I just installed
28:32
classic start or some other form of start button and got all these things
28:36
like directly to desktop anyways so why does any of this matter the start menu
28:40
looks really good um it has the old style can you share that if you click
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there oh my god I hate Windows 8 nope
28:50
doesn't work really you have it set up like that you don't have a start menu
28:53
set up i use touch okay i guess it makes sense you have touch um and I don't use
28:59
the start menu i pin everything i haven't touched the start menu on my
29:02
desktop in month you just pin everything yeah that's true but now you can pin I
29:07
can show you guys my setup yeah I could pin modern apps if I wanted to why you
29:11
even would want to no one knows but now you can do it now we can do it my thing
29:14
is now you not pinning them but now they open in Windows so they don't disrupt
29:18
you as much at least if you accidentally happen to open a modern app you can just
29:22
close it i mean you know what the funny thing is is when they tried to simplify
29:27
um when they try okay when when Microsoft realized that most people are
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only running probably a couple dozen apps on a daily basis on their computers
29:36
and they went okay well let's create this modern UI where there's like nice big clickable buttons for them all or
29:41
touchable or whatever they are um what
29:45
they screwed up was probably just the
29:48
fact that you that it completely took over your screen and stuff like that
29:51
because I actually agree with the approach which is why I like the new
29:55
start menu which if you have showed it yet i can't find it in the video okay
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anyways uh maybe Google image search
30:03
because I can plug into you okay
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um but but I realized at that time that
30:09
I'm already like that anyway i only have I mean now that I don't need a separate
30:14
launcher for every one of my games and I
30:17
can just launch everything through Steam i I only use like maybe 20 programs yep
30:24
so there you go and like the nice thing about the new start menu which I think I
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finally found don't plug it in yet it won't switch to it anyway and close that
30:32
okay it Whoa yeah don't worry about it i know okay so can we show this now yep
30:37
should be fine but you can't see that
30:41
here hold on hold on hold on there's the thing
30:45
wow this thing is so poopy i hate this laptop i know i don't like it either
30:51
we've been through this we've been through so very many things all right
30:54
just just Google image search this just
30:57
Windows 8.1 update one start menu that's all you need to do wow you make my life
31:01
anyways it's it's has the more classicy style start menu with this I it has an
31:06
all apps thing but I believe that's essentially the search button then on
31:09
the right it has Metro style buttons i'm don't even know why I'm describing this
31:13
one you're just going to pull it up that's not it
31:19
where is it this one no what did you even type in this one that must be it i
31:24
don't think so oh no well why didn't you
31:29
just link me to horrible you're horrible update one what oh all right
31:39
i don't even know what you're talking about that's one I think is this it are
31:43
you sure that's not the one I have on my screen but that's one of them no
31:47
no no no
31:50
there there there there there okay we
31:54
finally all right so this is from ours Technica oh you guys have been watching
31:59
this whole thing i was screen sharing the whole time okay there we go so so
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you can see it has a more classic style start menu on the left side and it has
32:07
more um I almost said metro tiles that makes so much more sense to me modern UI
32:12
tiles on the right which is actually totally fine because you can even see
32:15
here there's a feed and I like that a lot cuz you can have feed style all I'm
32:19
going to put in there really is feed style stuff y so that I can just like
32:23
click there figure out what's going on right now youtube and stuff like that i want to
32:27
put all my feed style things in there just so I can if I'm going for apps I
32:31
can see all these other things happening which I think this is actually great and
32:34
that's why I'm super stoked about this because I think this is actually the
32:37
direction they should have gone in the first place i think they figured it out
32:41
this is so much better in my opinion than any of the ones that at least I
32:44
have tried maybe there's one out there because I haven't tried anything on Windows 8.1 in a very long time because
32:49
I'm just using Windows 7 because I'm more used to it and I like it um but
32:53
that's the direction I'm hoping for so I'm excited for Windows 9 because I hope
32:56
they keep doing stuff like this or Windows whatever it's going to be but
33:00
don't worry gamers you will not have to update to Windows 8.1 or Windows 9
33:05
because DirectX12 has been confirmed for
33:08
Windows 7 and up the only version that
33:12
is that is not getting DirectX12 is starter edition which let's face it you
33:17
weren't running DirectX12 ready hardware anyway no this is like netbooks and
33:21
stuff so don't worry about it so that's great news love it thank you for Undead
33:26
Mike 18 for posting that on the forum and this tying in with like all of the
33:30
other Microsoft news ties into the death of the strategy tax conversation um
33:36
which is where Microsoft had an internal thing where you couldn't do anything
33:40
that was competitive with anything else in Microsoft's ecosystem within your own
33:44
ecosystem so if you were developing for some sort of platform if you wanted to
33:48
do something if it conflicted with anything else you couldn't do it which I
33:52
think you should probably give an example or two i was just going to you
33:57
okay that's good so like if you were trying to release DirectX 12 it should
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be on new operating systems to drive
34:05
people to adopt new operating systems not Windows 7 because then you're not
34:11
you're you're actually creating a competing platform essentially because you're you're making an older something
34:15
better which they're not trying to sell anymore they're now trying to sell
34:18
Windows 8.1 and possibly Windows 9 in the future so if they were like coming
34:23
to Windows 8.1 that would drive their new goal not Windows 7 another example
34:28
would be um you know if the Internet Explorer team was trying to uh
34:33
dramatically update or fix the way that web-based word processors that aren't
34:38
made by Microsoft work within the browser that might get the old "Hey hold
34:42
on what are you doing you're you're not helping us sell Word you're you're
34:47
you're you're just doing your own thing i was gonna try and come up with some example that wasn't in the article yeah
34:52
whatever um it's a good example it is a
34:55
pretty good example but and like that's they're they're both examples of that's
34:58
not good for the users that might be good for sales numbers maybe in the
35:02
short term but that's not good for the users and it's really frustrating
35:05
because you're like well I have Windows 7 i like Windows 7 i want to be able to
35:09
use DirectX12 well I have this browser i like this browser i want to be able to
35:13
do basic word editing stuff in this browser i don't want to have to use Word
35:17
right and that it makes your products just inferior and then no one wants any
35:21
of them exactly so in the long term it makes things everything bad instead of
35:26
one or two things bad so hopefully we're done with that at least for the time
35:29
being and DirectX12 yay i can play Star
35:32
Citizen in all its DirectX12 glory assuming they support Direct i'm sure
35:36
they will um and I don't have to upgrade
35:39
sweet yeah that's actually a really interesting thing because everyone's talking about how they have to upgrade
35:43
so much for Star C and stuff maybe it won't be as big of a deal at least not
35:46
the OS okay so without further ado let's get
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into our sponsor
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Intel and Corsair without Intel and Corsair he wouldn't be going because I'm
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not going to pay for it nope neither am I because that's actually pretty
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expensive nope yep yep so Luke will be in Boston guys make sure you say hi to
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him if you see him on the show floor but tell tell the tell the people we're
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gonna be doing a bunch of different things one of them is we're going to
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have a buildoff competition with Paul from uh Newegg so And there will be no
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shenanigans that is a rule that was what Paul said today he
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said no shenanigans paul said no shenanigans
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Paul that's a rule paul did rules are
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rules paul Paul said that rule yes he did yep okay moving on i will also be
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covering tons of gaming content i'll be releasing some stuff that's going on
36:51
around the Intel booth and I'm probably going to be focusing on stuff like the
36:54
indie mega booth um because indie games are awesome really you're going to talk
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about indie games
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uh because indie games are awesome and there's going to be 10 billion other publications that talk about all the AAA
37:07
games that are there so we're just going to cover indie games and maybe a few
37:11
other ones but probably mainly just I actually don't care what he does no nope
37:17
he doesn't even know what's going to be there probably nope i have no idea so
37:22
basically from my perspective I've asked him we have to do a few things for our
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sponsors so we have to make sure that we got we're bringing you the very best
37:30
coverage of what Intel's got going on there which is some pretty cool stuff
37:33
which helps a lot we're also going to have a pretty sweet giveaway that we're
37:36
supporting that's going to involve some kind of ASUS tablet i don't know exactly
37:40
what yet so that's going to be pretty possibly another thing pretty freaking
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Smurf possibly other things as well um so we're going to have that going on so
37:47
we're going to be promoting that but other than that I basically went "Okay
37:51
uh Luke Brandon it's B team all the way you guys decide what kind of coverage
37:56
you want to create and there's no pressure to make like a billion videos
38:00
so I just want them to bring you guys the best like summarized tight content
38:05
that they can from the show so it should be really great well also uh Brandon and
38:09
I both got into the Star Citizen show on Thursday night um although I don't know
38:15
what the terms are for that because our team didn't get into the meeting with
38:19
Chris Roberts so we don't know if we like try to take a camera in if they're
38:22
just going to be like no or if they're going to let us film stuff there like we
38:26
have no idea but we're going to try and gorilla film as much as we can while
38:30
we're there i emailed Mr roberts personally and got no reply about our
38:35
lack of invitation i know he's arguably
38:40
probably very busy yeah but Oh my god and imagine his inbox i Oh
38:47
god I don't even want to think about that like mine actually scares me
38:52
imagine speaking of things that are scary
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that another popular tech YouTuber who does a long format news show similar to
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what we're doing but we weren't copy him i swear um did I say copying him i we
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weren't copying him i swear uh I heard
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sorry but I think we got the point across we like Squarespace we use it
41:08
it's good stuff you guys should try it too in fact Squarespace out of all of
41:12
our sponsors is I think the one that I got the most positive feedback about
41:16
last time I asked people to tell us about their positive experiences with
41:20
our sponsors during the show my biggest problem now legitimately is people will
41:24
like a buddy of mine I'm not going to drop names but a buddy of mine is
41:27
starting a tax service so you can do your taxes for you what not what should
41:31
I be leaving my Squarespace lower third are you still talking about I'm still talking about Squarespace yeah a buddy
41:35
of mine started doing a tax service thing and he's like hey can I get you to help me with my website I was like sure
41:40
yeah then like look into it he's hosting on GoDaddy I was like oh okay well we
41:44
can move your domain over oh no you have a WordPress site and you bought a year
41:49
of hosting from GoDaddy and Like I'm like "Well it looks pretty good can you
41:52
use the template?" And then like things just start breaking all over the place
41:56
and I'm just like "Uh um I guess I guess we can revisit this in a year when when
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your current subscription dies then we'll move to Squarespace." And at that
42:05
time it's such an obvious solution it really is because and like it's easier
42:09
for me that's my thing cuz like it's so much easier for me to set up a
42:13
Squarespace site than it is a WordPress site i know because you set up our
42:17
WordPress site and it was a total nightmare in itself because I'm not a designer it worked when I was messing
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with it it just there was nothing on it
42:26
so that's one of the things that's easier about Squarespace as well you
42:29
don't have to be a designer to make it look good all right so moving into our
42:35
next topic here guys i think that was our longest Squarespace integration ever
42:38
hopefully we made up for it with quantity over quality
42:42
it's all about that over here um ah yes
42:46
apple patents what appears to be a mount
42:49
for swappable phone lenses this is
42:53
legitimately exciting because one of the biggest challenges to making an awesome
42:59
phone on a camera is the sheer physics
43:02
an awesome camera on a phone whatever or phone on a camera i don't care i'm okay
43:08
with something like a Galaxy camera that it says a phone on a camera so just calm
43:13
your boobs boobs is a much nicer word for web
43:17
streaming than tits unappealing word well so that it didn't
43:21
actually say anything you backed me into a corner no I didn't by laughing at my
43:24
use of the word boobs anyway one of the problems with creating an excellent
43:28
camera on a phone is the fact that consumers demand thinner and thinner
43:32
devices and but do they i don't actually
43:35
really think so i kind of like it but like have you seen an iPad Air but is it
43:41
really driving stuff that much that's an iPad not a phone it's like sexy but the
43:44
but the upcoming iPhone 6 is rumored to be air thin and like I think it might
43:49
get to the point where it's it's like too thin and becomes awkward i think
43:54
that when we reach that point I will not
43:57
reach that point yet and you will because you have sausage fingers it's
44:00
I'm already at that point anyway one of
44:04
the biggest challenges is that there simply isn't enough thickness to
44:08
properly create a lens system that can do all the things they want it to do
44:13
optical image stabilization putting a big sensor behind it so you can get
44:17
really nice depth of field effects when you're taking pictures and if Apple can
44:21
get around this by going okay look we're going to have the stock lens on there
44:25
and that'll do what it does and we can do all the software processing in the
44:28
world and ultimately there will be a limit to what can be done but we're
44:33
going to build in a standard so you could actually put much larger or much
44:37
more complicated or more specialized lenses because that's a big part of the
44:41
problem too is that it's one sizefits-all and you could put specialized lenses on your phone i mean
44:46
the iPhone is already according to a
44:50
crap what site was it i think it's in I think it's in our notes i think it's in
44:53
our notes talking about the camera yeah flicker's data shows that the iPhone is
44:57
already a more popular camera than anything that Canon or Nikon makes so if
45:02
you could take better pictures with it a lot of people would be pretty darn
45:05
interested makes a lot of sense though because then just more uploads are going to come from a phone it's easier yeah oh
45:11
I know like I get it yeah I'm just saying if what is obviously a popular
45:15
photo taking device gets a significant upgrade in image quality and I know a
45:19
lot of people buy these lenses and you could charge a lot for them and they
45:22
would still buy them because like it's just going to be so much easier well it's the same shutter bugs that are
45:26
spending a lot on other lenses no exactly yeah and even even people that
45:30
aren't necessarily getting really high-end nice cameras because maybe they
45:34
can't afford the whole package but take a lot of photos and enjoy taking their
45:38
photos could buy a lens for their phone which isn't buying into a whole
45:42
different ecosystem and probably a lot cheaper in the end even if that one lens
45:45
is really expensive mhm i could definitely see quite a few people that
45:48
I'm friends with like the Instagram nuts um Yep getting this super smart move and
45:54
I super love it all right so this has
45:59
caused waves this week posted originally on the forum by Colonel Mortis mosilla
46:05
CEO resigns over anti-gay marriage
46:09
controversy so what happened was he made
46:14
a $1,000 donation to an anti-gay marriage ballot proposal in California
46:20
proposition 8 yes so this was a personal
46:25
contribution not like he was using Mosilla's resources in order to to
46:30
contribute to a political cause that
46:33
however you may feel about it is legal
46:38
right now it's technically Yeah it is well it's not even technically legal
46:42
it's legal whatever you might think about it you're allowed to contribute to
46:46
Oh I thought you were saying Okay never mind i thought I'm talking about something else give me No no no no
46:50
you're so you're you're allowed to contribute to causes that that you
46:54
believe in whatever other people might think about you doing that um that's a
46:59
free speech thing yes so we all know what resigned means i
47:06
mean three other board members resigned
47:10
around the time that he was appointed CEO we already know this before before
47:15
this whole thing went down so we we know
47:19
that we know that there's no official word that those resignations were
47:24
directly related to this or his views or
47:28
him being before he even was Yeah it was before he was publicly announced as CEO
47:33
was right around that time yeah
47:36
um so I would like to hear from you
47:41
guys if we you know hired a new employee
47:47
for example and we were to discover that that employee uh participated in an
47:53
anti-gay marriage protest or even a
47:57
pro-gay marriage protest can we put pressure on them to
48:02
resign is that the right thing to do so I'm going to create a straw poll here i
48:07
think these are going to be two different situations because there
48:11
there's two there's two different arguments I can think of let's go with they participate in an anti-gay marriage
48:16
protest so let's go with the one scenario so you could have different
48:20
options let's just go with one let's go with one to start on the employee to
48:26
leave the company okay so one answer one
48:30
is yes answer two is
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um no I guess i mean is that about all there is
48:41
to it i was trying to find something in between come up with something else too
48:46
yeah it's like uh no
48:50
okay so I'm going to post this a few times you know what guys there's two
48:53
things that come in conflict with this already hold on hold on hold on i'm going to go ahead i'm going to put the
48:56
chat in slow mode temporarily that's probably just so that my uh my links
49:00
don't get lost or covered in the floods of other links that aren't related to it
49:04
um right okay guys remind me like tweet me or something remind me to uh to go
49:08
ahead and take it out of slow mode after yeah that's a good point we might
49:12
definitely forget so there's two two slight problems with this already one
49:15
he's not going to be in like a CEO position that's true so that's that's a
49:21
big difference especially when you're looking at a company because if he's not running the company his personal views
49:26
probably wouldn't uh influence the company as strongly yeah so you've got
49:30
that situation no matter this is these these sides that I'm trying to bring in
49:34
are completely not related to the opinion it's just like differences in
49:38
the situation um and the other one is still ties into how publicly available
49:44
that person is if you become the CEO of Mozilla everyone knows who you are
49:48
everyone's going to look into who you are uh it's it's like when the new guy
49:51
took over Microsoft y there was a massive thing of everyone like tearing
49:55
apart his entire history exactly and that's going to happen when you take
49:58
over a company that's not going to happen when you become an employee of a
50:02
company unless you're someone like Carmarmac who joins Oculus and then
50:06
everyone's like yeah but even then I mean he's CTO if I recall correctly or
50:11
science officer something like he's in an executive position yes he's extremely
50:15
high up so it's it's very different again what even is this oh okay that's
50:22
annoying um yeah so there's there's just
50:25
some differences to what we're looking at now okay well this is interesting
50:29
because on our forum a lot of the discussion has been around um sort of
50:35
where one person's rights end and another person's begin and that that
50:41
that to me is a very important part of
50:44
this issue because a lot of the arguments being made are well okay what
50:50
if he was um progay marriage then is it
50:54
is it okay to persecute someone for that if that's not something that the other
50:59
people within the company believe like should we allow something that is
51:03
effectively still whether we agree with it or not still a religious freedom of
51:09
freedom of religion freedom of free speech issue whether it should be or not
51:15
um still happens to be that should we allow that to affect someone's
51:19
employability any more than we should allow someone being gay for example to
51:23
affect someone's employability it's it's interesting one thing that I want to
51:26
bring up before I even go into this which I'll get into that in a second is that I was very proud of the forum i
51:32
didn't have to take this thread down 13 pages and we didn't have to take it down
51:36
and there was there was each side of the debate and neither side of the debate
51:39
pulled out nuclear bombs which is good which is very good then we have to take
51:43
it away yeah and that happens sometimes but every everyone was really good in
51:47
this thread so thank you everybody for having a very civil discussion that was
51:51
awesome um but I don't I don't know i I like the
51:56
free speech angle i think we should stay out every everyone's thing and one thing
52:00
that I couldn't find anywhere but this was in support of Proposition 8 I guess
52:04
so wasn't that a long time ago i think so yeah I think it was so
52:08
someone had to like dig back and find something that this guy did a long time
52:12
ago and pressure him for it like that's
52:16
I don't know you'd think that acquiring a new
52:20
position your actions would now be based on what you do now
52:24
but is it ever really as simple as being judged by our work no of course not
52:31
i get messages all the time where people say they love to watch our content
52:36
because they appreciate like what down to earth guys we are about whatever it
52:42
is that we're doing whether it's you know a CPU or whether it's even some of
52:46
the commercial productions that we've done they say they watch it because they want to support us and they like us is
52:53
Mosilla handicapping themselves by
52:56
putting someone who is as far as internet culture goes very unlike
53:00
likable in a leadership position so hold
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on so hold that thought i want you to I want you to have that thought but I just
53:06
need a moment here so I created a new straw poll guys and this one is what if
53:12
the employee was in a leadership position and I'd like to see how the
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answers compare here we go to if they were just
53:21
an employee okay so my point was another
53:24
thing that has to be taken into account here is that Mozilla is an extremely
53:29
public company y they talk about everything they're doing and we don't
53:32
mean public like publicly traded no like like open yeah and like they try to
53:36
bring in the community as much as possible and they they take donations
53:40
which is another big part of it so I've seen people I don't I didn't necessarily
53:44
see this on the forum but I've seen people saying like is my donation part
53:48
of that amount of money that was donated to that because even if it's his
53:52
personal funds if he's being paid by Mosilla that you could make the argument
53:57
that if you don't support what the individuals
54:00
do yeah so that became an interesting thing
54:04
uh that got fairly shot down because a way bigger part of Mozilla's income is
54:10
like from Google because of Google search being the default not from
54:14
donations they don't make nearly as much on donations as a lot of people I think
54:18
think they do make a lot more off of that Google search um and like there's a
54:23
lot going back and forth because of that but when you're in a company like this
54:26
every single move you have is scrutinized and like he probably should
54:30
have known that but then again he wasn't CEO then so he probably didn't care all
54:35
right let's go ahead and uh I can't find
54:38
it there it is let's go ahead and have a look at the results for that one okay so
54:42
we can see that you guys are giving us very very different answers this time so
54:48
if the employees in a leadership position so just an employee so you know
54:53
like if we were to hire someone that does something that I don't think is a
54:57
good idea like say for example um I don't think smoking is a great idea as
55:02
an employer I'm not convened by allowing
55:06
someone to take smoke breaks which I am legally obligated to allow them to do we
55:10
don't even have anyone that does i don't think we have one person who smokes
55:13
occasionally occasionally but not that often i'm just saying so so I as as as
55:19
someone who's in a leadership position it seems like most of you agree that I
55:24
should not be allowed to discriminate based on something that I don't agree
55:27
with and I agree with you guys yeah I was just going to say but it looks like
55:31
the a huge number more of you about another 25% of you or more say that if
55:37
that person is in a leadership position whatever leadership means to you whether
55:42
that is the effect it has on the culture of the office or the company or whether
55:47
that is the external visibility of what they're doing that yes it matters and
55:53
that person should be pressured to leave to be completely honest I back that a
55:56
little bit mhm i don't know if I back it 100% but I back it a little bit because
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like in this position you're now jeopardizing the entire company
56:04
something that you've done you know I mean we've had conversations i mean you
56:07
guys don't see this on W show because we're not gonna have it out about things
56:12
like the direction of Linus Media Group in front of you guys but we've had
56:16
conversations where there's something you don't like or there's something you
56:19
don't agree with and or you or anyone else or anyone else like I like to feel
56:24
like I'm very approachable here and if someone doesn't like something they can
56:28
say "Linus that is a bloody stupid idea." you do and you do exercise that
56:34
that privilege not a right that privilege does get used and I think
56:40
that's important and I think that me being in a position where I can be
56:45
questioned and I want people to be on
56:49
the same page as me creates a culture here where we agree and we work together
56:54
as opposed to feeling like if we're working with this person we are
56:59
furthering something that we don't believe And I think that if we were to hire
57:05
someone who doesn't fit with our culture
57:09
that is a big problem whatever it happens to be i actually think that
57:12
that's one of the reason why we can be so productive is even if there's been
57:16
certain things that we've done that I don't agree with i think there's been certain things that we've done that everyone in the company hasn't agreed
57:20
with on some level um but we always find good compromises yep and we always find
57:25
something that works really well but the problem is that to me the only
57:30
compromise on the gay marriage issue Yeah is that's not that's not a Yeah
57:36
ignore it yeah but that's not a problem
57:40
that we really then that's not a solution at all and neither party will
57:44
be happy at all and that's not that's not a compromise to me but then as a as
57:48
a company your standing is probably going to have to be ignoring it right
57:52
but if you rely on donations then you're
57:56
in a different But then they don't Oh oh I see what you mean by ignoring it but
57:59
then uh but then uh like it ties in
58:02
because they're not ignoring it at that point like maybe the I've sort of what I
58:06
meant more was the solution to the problem at all i now figured like if we
58:09
just let people do whatever they want and ignore what they're doing yeah i I I
58:12
thought you meant more like the company ignoring it externally um because I
58:16
think as a company you need to kind of back off of these things because it's very personal opinion and your company
58:21
is made up of a large group of people and speaking outward unless that's the
58:25
whole goal of your company then that makes a lot more sense in my
58:30
opinion it comes down to how you want to run everything like isn't it Chick-fil-A
58:35
is really religious or whatever y but then you're going into that knowing that
58:38
that's what you're getting a part of this problem too is uh Firefox is very
58:43
always been very very open and accepting of everything and then that position is
58:47
not open and accepting so then it goes against the companies more like what
58:52
people envision the company as not necessarily what the company has said
58:56
they are but what people envision the company as and what some like everyone
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views these big companies as people yep
59:03
i think we even get viewed that way a lot and you know what honestly yeah i
59:07
might create another straw pull for this because we don't take a public stance on
59:12
almost anything no I don't I don't know
59:16
that we've ever taken a public stance on really anything unless it has to do with
59:19
computer hardware yeah unless it has to do with computer hardware but my
59:23
response to people when they've asked me you know what do you think about you
59:27
know abortion or what do you think about this or what do you think about that is
59:31
look I'm a tech personality my personal life is my personal life and then when
59:36
I'm at work I talk about tech and it is my job to be opinionated about tech but
59:41
it is not my job to be opinionated about all this stuff and the response um when
59:47
people press me is look I'm not an expert I actually don't know the ins and
59:52
outs of a lot of these things and not
59:55
enough don't know enough about any of them including me and I'm not uh you
59:59
know I'm not personally acquainted with every person who's ever been afflicted
60:03
with any of these um with any of these terrible situations that can occur on
60:08
either side of the fence so and and I'm
60:12
not talking specifically about gay marriage i just mean in general we don't really take a stance on things that
60:16
aren't technology so would you like us to is the is the
60:22
question no I'm gonna go vote on this you can
60:27
vote on the straw poll you can vote on the straw pull this is an interesting
60:31
discussion topic yep
60:36
i'm definitely clicking no though because that's just scary oh my god it's
60:39
not in slow mode i'm turning slow mode back on i'm turning slow mode back on no
60:42
okay so guys here's the link slow mode is back on i'm spamming the link so that
60:46
y'all can y'all can see it there and for those of you replying in the Twitch chat
60:51
guys I'm not looking at that it doesn't count you have to reply to the straw
60:55
pole how is it how are we supposed like at all how are we supposed to do things
60:58
here all right so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic while we wait
61:02
for the replies to roll in on that one which happens to be technology
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i forgot to update this with all the
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points NVIDIA Shield temporarily wait did we talk about this last week i
61:16
thought we talked about this last week i'm sure we did i was something else oh
61:21
I was going to talk about it ah so game stream working remotely i was going to
61:25
try it i This happens with some of your topics sometimes you're just like "What
61:29
i don't know what this is about." I know i know i know i know okay so I meant to
61:33
try remote game stream i haven't had a chance yet okay i've been too busy
61:37
playing uh Bravely Default i'll try this weekend my problem is finding places
61:40
that like cuz my parents have a crappy internet connection cuz we're like
61:44
borderline Farmville all right so speaking of me taking a stance on
61:50
technology junk boom stance being taken
61:53
i didn't even know I was clicking on this link because it was mislabeled
61:57
this is a stupid solution okay this is
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USB 3.1 type-C and I will give them
62:07
this like this is this is not finalized
62:11
but it's final enough that they're willing to show renders now and I will
62:15
give them this USB 3.1 type-C is very
62:18
beautiful it's very elegant it is even
62:22
smaller than MicroB and is going to give
62:25
you up to 10 Gbit per second connectivity wait wait for
62:29
Congratulations everything he's doing right now is when you're like walking up
62:33
to the guy in a dining hall and you're hiding the knife and you're trying to like shake his hand so you can stab him
62:38
in the ribs that go right so you can get to the heart that's what he's he's
62:41
carefully walking to the person right now now he's going to stab them what the
62:47
hell were you thinking it still doesn't lock it's still tiny and fragile i mean
62:55
I don't like the lightning connector it's not perfect it's still USB 2 i mean
63:00
come on really Apple it's still USB 2 but at least it managed to be less
63:06
fragile than the probably the worst
63:09
connector on anything any modern piece of electronics which is micro USB we're
63:14
talking about something that goes beyond
63:18
just you know plugging it in on your nightstand every night because cell
63:22
phones they don't last all day so a lot
63:26
of the time if you look at it and you go okay this connector is rated for I
63:29
forget how many it is i think it's like 3,000 or 5,000 or something like that i
63:33
think it's 10,000 no I don't know about the new one but micro USB micro USB 2 is
63:37
rated for 3,000 or 5,000 or 8,000 or something like that something on the
63:40
order of like not tens of thousands so
63:44
we're talking like a perfect scenario where
63:49
like this happens and then you like put
63:52
it down okay that's not how these things get used you carry this every day you're
63:59
carrying portable battery banks how popular are those these days you carry
64:03
portable battery banks around and you kind of go "Oh crap I'm down to 5%
64:07
battery." And you jam the thing in there and you're like "Oh what am I going to do with this i have to be on a call." So
64:11
you put like a portable battery in your shirt pocket and you got your phone here
64:14
and the connectors hanging off of it that is why small connectors are
64:18
terrible and that is why we needed something more robust not just something
64:23
that is reversible and there's a there's a render of it on a laptop or something
64:28
like that and I hope that wireless charging is going to save me from these
64:33
broken connectors that are stupid but there you go there's a render of what it
64:38
looks like next to a USB3 connector maybe I'm wrong maybe it's the smartest
64:43
thing ever and it's amazing but every
64:46
tiny connector with a ton of pins that's super thin that I've seen so far looking
64:51
at you mini HDMI is a gigantic piece of
64:54
garbage that weighs out weighs out wears
64:57
out extremely easily so reversible great not that big of a
65:05
deal on a micro connector what am I going to Are we going to Are we going to
65:09
replace all the connectors on the back of my computer with these with these
65:13
micro connectors is that going to be better having tiny tiny plugs okay like
65:18
at least I could find it with my finger how hard is it
65:21
to how hard is it to memorize which way
65:24
the micro USB connector in your phone goes on and put a dot with a marker on
65:28
the one that goes up or something like that like this this is not that big of a
65:32
deal reversible i I think reversible is great i think that is one of the cooler
65:35
innovations of the lightning connector but I think that having reversible at
65:40
the cost of durability which is another assumption I can't quite judge it until
65:44
it arrives until I hold it in my hands and break one because I will in all
65:48
likelihood look at it um I'm done here
65:52
let's talk about my next We should do a video when they first release we should do like Lionus kills
65:58
all the time and have like a like a like a deep dark torture scene where you just
66:04
kill a cable that's kind of creepy actually it would
66:08
be kind of awesome probably cuz you could make it like deep dark torture
66:11
scene but then also funny so that it loses the edge now I wouldn't actually
66:16
care that much about micro USB if
66:21
um you know if wireless charging were more ubiquitous and this this is what
66:27
kind of blew me away did Did you find some of the comments i was I did I ended
66:31
up searching okay i don't remember where they are but if wireless charging was
66:36
more widespread I actually wouldn't care because if I only had to plug it in once
66:41
every I don't know couple of months when
66:45
I'm trying to load a custom ROM on the phone or something like if that was the
66:49
only time I ever had to use the connector fine make it as tiny and
66:52
fragile as possible i don't care because I'm going to be offloading all of my
66:56
pictures automatically with Bit Torrent sync anyway i'm gonna be syncing all of
67:00
my songs with some other solution well probably Bit Torrent bit Torrent syncs
67:03
awesome yeah so I'm gonna be doing all of this wirelessly anyway give me
67:07
wireless charging so I don't have to worry about it and and this is this is
67:11
what blew me away because I've already had a conversation i already told HTC
67:15
that I will be slamming the fact that the M8 doesn't have wireless charging in
67:19
my review because it can it's not the metal backing it's not really anything
67:23
they might have to make it a hair thicker or whatever else but it could
67:26
have had wireless charging maybe it would have been more expensive to make all all that stuff but I already told
67:30
them I'm going to be slamming it and their response was "Does it really
67:34
matter?" And I was like "Well yeah of course it matters." And he kind of went
67:39
"Well I I don't know does it i mean lots of other major players don't have it
67:42
yet." And I'm like "Well yeah but if you're going to call it a Cadillac
67:46
ultimate you wonderful device phone and it really is it's a fantastic phone then
67:52
it shouldn't be missing something that phones that cost half as much have." And
67:56
then I read the comments on this USB article and I've got people just being
68:01
like "Well isn't wireless charging slow?" I'm like "Wireless charging will
68:07
not replace a cable connection." I'm like "Okay that has for someone in this
68:11
office already." Yeah I know that for a fact um where where are some of the
68:15
other ones it's it's really long comment section look how look where your scroll
68:18
bar is that's why I couldn't find stuff very quickly the issue is not the speed
68:23
but that it creates more heat loss and that's bad for this or that and I had no
68:29
idea that there was so much negative sentiment towards wireless charging and
68:34
I understand HTC's PR guys or it does
68:38
social media for them I think so not PR technically but I understand his
68:41
perspective now because here I am thinking it's obvious that wireless
68:46
charging is fantastic and many people are opposed to
68:50
I don't get the people being like "Oh but cables are so much better." It's
68:54
like "Yeah well you can use both." Like Ethernet is amazingly better than
68:59
wireless but you like both of them because they both are better in
69:03
different situations obviously that's not exactly the same because for wireless charging you have to put it on
69:07
a block or whatever but if you can just like toss your phone somewhere and have
69:11
it charging immediately instead of fighting with a cable all the time is
69:14
that not a good thing we have someone in the office that I don't think has
69:18
plugged in his phone since he got it because why would he he just has these
69:22
wireless charging pads everywhere like $25 on eBay so he just puts them all
69:26
over the place and then he's like "Oh click
69:29
whatever." Puts it puts wherever he has one down in the shoot this is Brandon he
69:32
has one down in the shooting area one at his desk and one at home and it's like
69:36
whenever he sits down at his desk boop whenever he's filming boop his phone's
69:41
never even close to being dead but I just had no idea that people
69:46
thought it was bad and to the people saying you know what about the heat what
69:49
about that it's slow it's not like it doesn't have a connector on it still
69:54
don't use it
69:58
or or I love our compressor i didn't even peek it's fantastic you like peaked
70:04
in real life yeah I know i was like shrieking and I'm sorry for that yeah
70:08
whatever all right let's go back to our uh let's go back to our straw poll this
70:12
is interesting so I always had a feeling this was the case only less than 30% of
70:18
you want us to take a public stance on anything that isn't technology and you
70:23
know what that sounds about right to me and that's that's I don't want us to take a public stance on anything that
70:27
isn't technology that's the reason that I've always just completely avoided
70:32
engaging in any type of conversation on that stuff because the way that I see it
70:36
we should form opinions about the things that we are experts on and and not not
70:41
even that but in that kind of stuff it's a lot more personal opinion based stuff
70:45
and we can give them information and then they can come up with their own
70:49
opinion and that's how it should work anyways and I guess if someone you know
70:52
dug up my thousand contribution to the
70:55
you know End Kittens Foundation or something like that and was unhappy
70:59
about it then I see you picked like the the most opposite thing as to what you
71:03
would ever do i love kittens and that's but this is an
71:08
example of me avoiding giving really I don't think it's really funny because I
71:12
don't think anyone has any idea what I think about much of anything um I like
71:18
I've I've seen people I've I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how
71:23
religious I am and I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how
71:26
anti-religious I am so that's to me the
71:30
indication that people just have no idea i've never heard you say a religious
71:34
comment on a show at any point in time ever so how would someone come up with
71:38
that i don't talk about it at all um so I think this this reinforces Oh I'm not
71:42
even showing them the poll results okay well this reinforces what I thought and
71:46
that's that we just shouldn't get involved in things so oh right so if someone digs up like a contribution then
71:51
I guess I would have to deal with the fallout and I guess if we lost viewers
71:55
over it or you know lost people wanting
71:58
to support what we're doing over it then that would be that but ultimately I
72:02
think that what we do should be about the work that we do and if you guys want
72:05
to support what we're doing in terms of reviewing notebooks or I actually have
72:09
Oh I have a really cool topic coming up soon that I don't want to talk about
72:13
because I'm sure someone else would make a video about it people were like "It's
72:16
going to be a short show." I know right nope no no short um anyway I think we're
72:21
done with that the the people have spoken they don't want to know what I think and that's fine by me i completely
72:27
agree um we weren't going to start doing it
72:30
anyway even if you didn't matter just so you know
72:34
oh uh Amazon Dash do you know anything
72:38
about this cuz I think this was added like during the show by by Dominic so
72:43
yeah uh I think that was added by me and
72:46
then I did none of the notes because I didn't have any time so he did all All right let's talk about Amazon Fire TV
72:51
then so this is Amazon's entry into the
72:56
very Oh Fire TV i thought you were talking about Dash no I thought you just
73:00
said Dash yeah I don't know anything about Dash though i I didn't look into it i I hadn't seen the topic so okay I'm
73:05
gonna talk about Fire TV since I know something about that so Fire TV is their
73:09
$99 set top box available now and the
73:13
reviews are pretty much already in it is
73:17
a streaming device so it supports uh you know Hulu Netflix Amazon's video
73:22
streaming service of course it is a relatively powerful device so it has a
73:28
quad-core processor and 2 gigs of RAM at $99.99 no less mind you I would make the
73:34
argument that something like an NVIDIA Shield makes a ton of sense for twice
73:37
the price given that it is also portable yep just throwing that out there it has
73:42
wireless N it has support for Oh yeah in addition to what I already said it has
73:46
support for Vimeo MLB.tv and NBA um it
73:51
is probably according to user reviews it looks like it is pretty much the best
73:55
solution hands down for Amazon's own instant video streaming service i would
74:00
hope so but much like every other
74:03
streaming device on the market and holy cow are there a lot of them it lacks a
74:09
certain level of polish at launch and a certain level of integration with
74:13
popular apps that people are using so one of the big features that they're
74:16
talking about here is the voice control that you can use to search for content
74:20
and play it back voice control that only works within Amazon's library
74:26
but the word on the street is that it's
74:29
actually at Netflix's own request that
74:33
their voice control is not searching Netflix's own library and that's kind of
74:38
weird to me um one of the other things that Amazon So so right now whatever the
74:42
reason is that feature is not necessarily it's kind of halfbaked and
74:47
then the other thing that's supposed to be really cool about it is it's supposed to help you do all of your comparative
74:52
shopping without you having to actually look up each of the individual services
74:56
so if you want to watch something then you search for it and it should tell you
75:00
where you can watch it for cheapest you know what's getting frustrating i I
75:04
don't see this on the supported list here and as far as I know there could
75:07
have been an update or something but as far as I know it doesn't work on uh
75:10
Chcast either but Twitch where's Twitch
75:15
twitch is not on the radar for like
75:19
executives who don't understand streaming twitch needs to push and get
75:23
themselves on the radar do they i want
75:26
them to be on the radar i mean okay because right now it's like the only
75:31
thing I really watch on my TV is they have an iOS app they have an Android app
75:37
okay so they made those themselves yes so anything running on a platform
75:43
like iOS or Android which let's face it is lots of stuff
75:48
with the exception of things like Apple TV which it still baffles me can't
75:51
install apps anyway
75:55
um doesn't that take care of most people
76:00
yes and no because a lot of the people that are going to be buying chcasts are
76:04
going to be fairly technical but they could just push from their Android or
76:08
their browser it's not as good though yeah I know it's not like nearly as good
76:13
you need to be able to actually work with the chcast screen streaming is not
76:16
nearly as strong as just pushing through the app i don't like Come on i want this to
76:22
work someone someone might be proving me wrong maybe there's an update for chcast
76:26
as of now twitch works with XBMC yeah
76:29
okay that's not XBMC is kind of a big deal though xbmc runs on some of these
76:35
other devices within their own operating systems like for example Pivos's uh
76:39
streamers you can run XBMC either natively right on the device or you can
76:44
run it as an app within Android personally the only one I really care about this might even sound kind of bad
76:48
but the only one I really care about is Chcast though because I'm not interested in really playing Android games on my TV
76:53
and if I am I'm just going to use my Shield um because that makes sense and
76:58
the Chcast is 35 bucks it's so hard to compete with it's
77:02
$35 like it's super cheap and you get free shipping from Amazon so it's like
77:07
it's actually just 35 bucks so back to
77:10
back to Amazon speaking of Amazon um
77:13
they are they are touting it as a gaming platform as well and you can get a game
77:18
pad for $39.99 although and I haven't verified this one of the reviews seems
77:22
to indicate that you can't use third party game pads with it which is a
77:26
disaster it should just work with any Bluetooth game pad because by the time I
77:31
buy this for $99.99 plus a $40 game pad
77:34
I could pick up a Shield for $200 use any old Bluetooth controller and I've
77:38
paid maybe a hundred bucks for something that is runs on batteries is much more
77:43
flexible and as in like console mode is
77:46
actually pretty usable with a powered USB hub which you can get on Amazon for
77:50
like eight bucks and an onthe-go connector I was able to set it up so
77:56
that my Shield can be perpetually powered and perpetually have all my
77:59
peripherals plugged into it yay fantastic like it just kind of works
78:04
i know I pimp Shield a lot but it really is a fantastic device i'm excited for
78:08
the second one i'm super excited for whatever Shield 2 ends up being i'm
78:12
still not sold on the way you hold it
78:16
okay fair enough your hands are not the same as my hands yeah and like but and
78:20
like that could change and number two or it can't and I'll just get used to it i
78:24
don't know it's fine and one thing that's uh that I'm not super sold on as
78:28
well is a lot of games for Android this is not on the game streaming front but
78:32
the Android gaming front are not designed to be able to control with the
78:36
controller no but they do have the remapping yeah but a lot of them like you have to
78:40
tap on the screen really quickly you need the screen tapping ability i don't
78:44
care because I haven't really found any
78:47
Android games that light my light my fire so to speak i' Yeah yeah I found a
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few but like I ended up playing through one and I found myself holding the shield in the weirdest way possible
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because I had to hold the screen of the shield like a phone yeah I know to be
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able to So I was like this is really weird that's really awkward and I made
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it work but it was like okay this is weird i mean for me it's one of those
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things where 95% of what I do on Shield is watching videos or using Gamestream
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yeah and then and then and it's a great device for that but then that brings
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back the point that I was talking about where I I don't really understand or
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agree with the fact that it has all this Android Android in it and then all of
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the stuff that has to be in there like the hardware to support Android they
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could have made a way cheaper device that just supports Gamestream but
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then who cares it's now only 200 bucks anyways yeah 200 bucks is very
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reasonable for it okay so let's get into
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um not game stream but uh game streaming
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technologies in general um laptop conversation yeah yeah whether the game
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or is there anything else that we're missing that we There's just Dash but I
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don't know if anyone really cares yeah whatever okay so is the gaming laptop
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dead i did a review this week of the MSI GS60 and gaming laptops have come so far
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contrasting that with my GX 660 I think
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is the model um MSI gaming laptop so I I
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was able to look like snapshot MSI three years ago gaming laptop MSI today gaming
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laptop the old one ran hotter way hotter
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was much slower was like twice the overall thickness looked stupid as all
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hell and the new one is this slim sexy
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cool running design with better battery life um and just is better display is
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better in every possible way and I ran a
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game on it to test NVIDIA's new battery saving feature for mobile GPUs that what
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it does is it limits your frame rate so
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if your notebook is on battery and it's still powerful enough to run a game at a
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you 60 frames per second and you kind of go "Well no hold on a second i'd rather
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have longer battery life and turn down my GPU and I'm okay with 30 frames per
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second to get more battery life sorry blasphemous blasph i know right but if
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you did okay well okay how I'll give you a different example if it runs at 120
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frames per second and your display is only 60 hertz then whatever you might as
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well turn it down so you can you can save that extra battery life and NVIDIA
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is claiming up to 2x improvements in battery life by using this feature so I
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set to work trying out the feature and I ran with it on and then I ran without it
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on and not only did I only get about 2 minutes of extra battery life which is
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within margin of error at that point pretty much um but I only got less than
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an hour of battery life out of both of them so I kind of looked at it and I
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went well hold on a second i mean what is a gaming laptop a gaming laptop to me
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is a portable machine that is capable of
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gaming but suffers from battery life
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that is just abysmal when you're actually trying to use it for gaming
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could they make a gaming laptop that has the power the hardware of the GS60 and
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like doubles the size and just fills it with battery i guess so but the battery
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technology hasn't gotten to the point yet where we'd be able to charge that
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laptop in a reasonable amount of time even battery technology is lagging
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behind like everything by a lot and it's holding things back and then I realized
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something do I need a powerful GPU in my
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laptop anymore because with game stream
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you can use a hardwarebased decoder that's already in your onboard graphics
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and when you're at home you can stream that game to
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yourself with low enough latency that
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with my last experience with it although I haven't gone wireless yet I actually
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just bought Where is it don't want to step on that again i actually just
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bought an AC wireless card for my for my Ultrabook so that I can um try Steam in
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home streaming with AC um but if I can
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stream the games to myself at home do I
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need it that badly when I'm on the go and if I'm on the go what are the odds
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I'll be somewhere where I can get a hardline connection and I can stream it
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to myself remotely because I know we haven't tried remote streaming for
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Shield yet neither of us have no but I've tried Grid Beta yeah which is far
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enough away that
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it's
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surprising down when you're doing that they're saying you want five megabit up
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and down both ways there's a lot of situations maybe not you so maybe you
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don't need one but I think there's a lot of situations where now personally I've
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never bought a gaming laptop yeah exactly but I like But I've never been
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interested in gaming laptops that's not because I could replace it before for
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it's cuz I just was I hated that experience and was just like nope uh but
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everyone that I know that would buy a gaming laptop or has bought a gaming
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laptop would still buy one because they're a lot of the places that they're
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using it they're not able to get that 5 megabit connection fair enough maybe in
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certain city hubs and stuff like that you're able to get it a lot of times but I noticed a lot of school connections
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they're going to throttle individual connections totally fuar you're not
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going to be able to get it when you're at school um a lot of the time you're not going to be able to get it when
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you're at the coffee shop um all these kind of things so you still want So you
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want to be able to game when you only
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have power because ultimately it's not like you can game on the thing when you
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don't have a power outlet i mean 40 minutes is that you can't even play a round of League of Legends necessarily
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in 40 minutes no and I've actually seen people have problems with that um but it
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it's I find it easier to get a power connection than it is to get internet
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connection and like say you're in a car and you're going on a road trip this is not as common as the other scenarios I
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was giving you but if you're chilling in the back of the car on a road trip it is potential that you could trickle off of
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the car yeah you can yeah absolutely and you're not going to be able to get get a
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couple hours out of it or whatever yeah and you're going to be moving too quickly that you're probably going to
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get a craptastic mobile connection if one at all terrible yeah so like there I
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think there's still situations for it but then everything that I just laid out
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is things that are going to be again not me and and probably not you and things
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that are going to probably very soon no
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longer be problems right um whether it's the the school scenarios that I was
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talking about where those connections are probably just going to get faster as they have been and then that's not going
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to matter or if it comes down to the the car scenario that I talked about where
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Korea is already working on that creating that insane mobile wireless
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standard which will make it so you could be moving as fast as a bullet train and
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it won't even matter so at one point in time in the hopefully not super long
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future all of my holdbacks are not going to matter but as of right now I I can
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still see the merits i never see myself gaming on the go and when I'm at home
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like even if I'm at home like I'm on the couch or whatever I don't feel like going and getting my charger no would I
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use Steam in Home Streaming or would I play natively on the device the heat
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output when you're playing on it and the additional battery life that you can get
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by streaming using this instead of a GPU
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is tangible in your house definitely for sure i I definitely agree with that and
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like honestly you said um on the run
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like even if you're going to game and all that kind of stuff and even in your house uh
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2DS it's cheap as all crap i can play it
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anywhere um Austin Evans is video
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calling me should I just like Should I just take it sure is there
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like 10 billion people apparently it was
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probably a misclick man i'll be like "Sup."
86:36
It was probably a misclick he probably just tried to video call like everyone
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on his contacts because that's a lot of people kind of is anyway I think we're
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pretty much done with the show for today um this was fantastic for me anyway i
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hope it was as good for you
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but um that awkward moment after
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on that disturbing note peace out guys thank you for tuning in we're sorry we
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were late once again we will have the for those of you who didn't catch the
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entire show we will have the archive up fairly shortly and I think that's pretty
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much it bye guys bye everyone
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apparently miss
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i love how you know that you're talking and the mic is on and you still do it
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you do it too well I'm quiet