WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:07.279 and like that's not really doing all right so those of you who are just 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:10.240 joining us now uh we're live those of 00:00:07.279 --> 00:00:13.920 you who were here before well we're live but the show is kind of starting over so 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:18.240 just bear with us for a couple minutes here while we go through our headline 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:22.800 topics for the day and all of that other good stuff so Yahoo is allegedly making 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:26.480 their own YouTube something that we kind of talked about mostly already so we're 00:00:24.720 --> 00:00:31.439 not going to get into too much depth with it the 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:34.320 R9295 allegedly rumored has been leaked 00:00:31.439 --> 00:00:39.200 that is AMD's upcoming dual GPU graphics card allegedly allegedly allegedly uh 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:45.360 we've also got some other interesting stuff this week so Mozilla CEO has 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:47.120 resigned over an anti-gay marriage 00:00:45.360 --> 00:00:51.840 controversy something that I would like for us to try to take a balanced 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:55.039 approach to rather than take one side or the other it's definitely something 00:00:53.280 --> 00:01:00.480 that's a hot topic right now there's about a 13page thread on the Linus Tech 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:04.640 Tips forum about it and then something I really wanted to talk about it's just 00:01:02.160 --> 00:01:11.040 that's an observation of mine is whether or not the gaming laptop is dead as a 00:01:08.240 --> 00:01:15.210 product category so without further ado let's go ahead and get a quick you know 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:21.110 intro going on here 00:01:37.119 --> 00:01:44.799 the show today is brought to you by Incel actually Corsair as well who are 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:48.399 both sponsoring us to go to PAX East more on that later as well as 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:53.439 squarespace.com the fast 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would like it it's like 00:02:33.040 --> 00:02:38.239 targeted at these particular regions 00:02:36.720 --> 00:02:43.840 it's like we're going to go after the Jamaican and Nordic market it's 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:46.080 brilliant genius absolutely genius um so 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:53.120 the rumor the word on the street and the original article that oh this was posted 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:54.800 on the forum by no tech and um so the 00:02:53.120 --> 00:03:01.360 article that we were looking at from Guardian LV is says that Yahoo's CEO 00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:05.120 Marissa Mayor allegedly has been contacting YouTube content providers 00:03:03.440 --> 00:03:10.159 star talents and network channels with the promise of more money if they switch 00:03:07.040 --> 00:03:12.080 to the Yahoo service mind you to me the 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:15.760 big challenge is of course the chicken and egg you can't have an audience 00:03:13.920 --> 00:03:20.959 without content creators you can't incentivize content creators unless you 00:03:18.239 --> 00:03:26.879 have a ginormous audience that you can drive traffic to their content with and 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:30.239 I don't know if their approach of going after the premium content creators is 00:03:28.720 --> 00:03:36.640 necessarily right because that's part of what made YouTube so big and so hard to 00:03:34.720 --> 00:03:42.400 beat by competing well I mean Vimeo doesn't even really try to compete with them but that's what makes them so hard 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:44.879 to surpass in terms of size by other 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:48.239 video sharing services is the fact that they have this enormous mainstream 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.799 appeal so you could take all the music videos all the Vivos of the world and 00:03:50.239 --> 00:03:57.760 move them over to Yahoo but then you've just basically turned yourself into a 00:03:54.959 --> 00:04:02.239 video streaming service unless you also have that community and if you create a 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:06.959 community interaction model then it might go all Google+ on you and blow up 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.920 in your face anyway and like if they if they try to buy people out and make it 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.920 so they can't post on YouTube that would bring content over that you'd want to watch there but then that's really 00:04:12.480 --> 00:04:18.400 aggressive and is going to create some really awkward situations and if you 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:22.720 don't do that people are just probably going to want to watch it on YouTube 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:26.160 instead of YouTube anyways so I mean from my perspective actually this is 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:31.440 something I didn't cover before so as a content creator what does Yahoo have to 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:34.320 overcome to appeal to me just going to move the mic a little bit closer here i 00:04:32.960 --> 00:04:40.600 see a couple people saying the audio is a bit low it's not adjustable that probably 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:47.960 sounded great whatever okay so what do they have to overcome number 00:04:44.880 --> 00:04:51.040 one is that even though YouTube takes 00:04:47.960 --> 00:04:52.639 45% right off the top of the advertising 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:58.880 revenue that's generated by something like a True View instream ad before a 00:04:55.120 --> 00:05:00.840 video plays what YouTube is able to do 00:04:58.880 --> 00:05:07.120 is probably about I'd say double to triple my 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:10.320 overall viewership by driving new 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:12.560 viewers to old videos so when you look 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:17.520 at a new video that we upload within the first let's say week that's probably 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:22.639 unless it's something that really has legs in the long term something like our 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:24.560 Xbox 3 or Xbox One versus PS4 image 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:28.960 quality comparison unless it's something people are really going to be looking 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:30.880 for in the longer term that's about 90% 00:05:28.960 --> 00:05:38.960 of what that video is ever going to get in terms of views yeah what YouTube does 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:42.240 is it takes that video and drives people 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:44.240 to it in the background compared to you 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:47.840 know just us blasting it out to our subscribers now YouTube makes a lot of 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:53.039 mistakes they don't send our videos to all of our subscribers there's a lot of 00:05:49.520 --> 00:05:56.160 stuff with the YouTube model but they 00:05:53.039 --> 00:05:58.479 kind of make up for it by 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:02.960 keeping our content as prolific as possible and spreading it out so that 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:09.440 even older content that we're not focused on anymore is still maybe making 00:06:05.440 --> 00:06:11.120 us two cents that day from the 40 people 00:06:09.440 --> 00:06:15.360 who watched it which adds up when you have 2,000 videos uploaded to the 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:20.560 platform so if Yahoo's approach is going to be trying to get exclusivity deals 00:06:17.280 --> 00:06:23.360 with premium content creators without 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:27.840 necessarily a plan for having that huge mass of viewers like on YouTube I I'm 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:33.919 going to I'm going to go find something that's like like an ancient motherboard 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:37.919 unboxing or something youtube has so 00:06:33.919 --> 00:06:40.160 much reach that even super old videos So 00:06:37.919 --> 00:06:43.880 motherboard unboxing let's try to find that even super old videos can generate 00:06:41.840 --> 00:06:48.319 revenue for you um so I I guess you know what's 00:06:46.479 --> 00:06:51.919 interesting is the I've I've been subscribed to our own channel on my 00:06:50.080 --> 00:06:54.520 private YouTube just so I know what we're releasing because a lot of the 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:58.880 times I just don't film or work on something and then 00:06:56.880 --> 00:07:02.800 finish it and then it's like oh all right we'll see when that comes out I 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.520 guess um so I subscribe to our own channel so I know what's even going on 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.560 because people will talk to me about things that have released and I'll 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:13.120 they'll be like in your most recent video blah blah blah and I'll be like I 00:07:10.479 --> 00:07:16.240 have no idea what you're talking about uh so yeah subscribe to our own channel 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:20.400 the only thing that I get in my subscription feed is the WAN Show right 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:23.280 i don't get anything else i have to go to the channel directly to get anything 00:07:21.840 --> 00:07:27.199 else in my subscription so on the flip side here's a motherboard unboxing from 00:07:25.039 --> 00:07:33.199 August 2011 here actually I can screen share here from August 2011 that has got 00:07:30.880 --> 00:07:39.360 a couple views you know let's say one view per day over the last month like 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:46.319 how how is that even possible does anyone care about the Sniper 2Z68 board 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:51.280 so without having that mainstream appeal 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:53.840 you uh Yahoo Tube may suffer y Y if they 00:07:51.280 --> 00:07:57.680 call it Yub we want to cut we want to cut 10% cut that's the Linus Media Group 00:07:55.599 --> 00:08:03.199 cut that's the Linus Media Group cut 10% cut that's all we ask it's actually very 00:07:59.440 --> 00:08:05.520 reasonable it is y y 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:08.479 terrible i love it all right let's move into our next headline topic we're going 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:15.560 to try and compress the show a little bit because we started so late we're really sorry for that guys uh we are on 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:20.240 a brand new dedicated line for the show 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:21.879 so there you go all right uh over to my 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:29.199 screen boom leaked this is allegedly and I can 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:32.520 neither confirm nor deny a picture of the R9295X2 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:39.039 AMD's rumored upcoming rumored to be 00:08:36.719 --> 00:08:46.160 dual GPU graphics card with what is rumored to be 8 gigs of GDDDR5 memory is 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:48.959 rumored to have a radiator attached to 00:08:46.160 --> 00:08:54.720 it rumored rumored allegedly now we've seen implementations like this before 00:08:51.680 --> 00:08:57.360 with lowprofile like um you know guys 00:08:54.720 --> 00:09:03.519 like Coolit or Asetch make these things lowprofile pump block combo units on 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:05.120 each GPU and then a fan to take care of 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:10.160 cooling the rest of the components the memory the VRM and all of that good 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:14.480 stuff but this would be the first time that we've seen a I mean it's going to 00:09:12.560 --> 00:09:18.480 be pretty niche but this would be the first time that we've seen a mass- 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:22.880 prodduced product implement something like this right out of the box i mean 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:26.160 it's happened yeah guys like Sapphire have done this kind of stuff was like 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:33.200 here's a liquid cooled graphics card out of the box and Yeah yeah but this is the 00:09:30.560 --> 00:09:35.839 first time we've seen a reference design that's what I was Yeah I was going to 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:39.040 say there's actually been like a few but not reference ones all right and when 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:45.040 you say massproduced like I don't know how many of these are actually going to make either i have no idea i mean I do I 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:50.320 could definitely see it being limited i do know that some of the I'm just going 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:54.800 to move this again i do know that some of the dual GPU cards in the past have 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:59.279 actually been fairly limited production run and they have intentionally kept the 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:02.160 supply constrained because they know that if they just flooded the market 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:08.440 with them there's no way they could sell them all anyway and uh so that may be 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:15.560 AMD's strategy here keep it as a niche appeal item so the rumored suggested 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:20.240 retail price is over 00:10:15.560 --> 00:10:22.160 $1,500 and when did this happen 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:28.399 cuz it was always like a grand wasn't it yes and then it was like Titan Z nope 00:10:24.959 --> 00:10:30.000 well no no what started this actually I 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:36.160 think we have NVIDIA to blame for this well we do titan but not Titan Z because 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:39.279 Titan how much was Titan $1,000 for a 00:10:36.160 --> 00:10:41.600 single GPU card so they came in and they 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:48.079 went "Okay we've got the 690 which is a dual GPU card we're going to put another 00:10:44.640 --> 00:10:50.240 card at that price point Titan at $1,000 00:10:48.079 --> 00:10:53.600 and that is our thousand tier card now that's a single GPU card 00:10:51.920 --> 00:10:57.519 if you want two of those which by the way is a miracle of engineering 00:10:56.160 --> 00:11:01.519 depending on the clock speeds that NVIDIA and AMD like both of them 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:05.160 miraculous engineering but if you want two of these things on a card you got to 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:10.640 pay more than a grand now like what happened 00:11:08.959 --> 00:11:14.720 i don't know cuz like it wasn't that long ago like personally who cares just 00:11:12.959 --> 00:11:20.560 buy two of the other one it's going to be so much better anyways and cheaper 00:11:17.920 --> 00:11:25.839 well we don't have a clear idea of what the clock speeds will be on this card 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:31.440 but what is rumored allegedly is that it will have a total of 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:37.839 5,632 stream processors making it two fullyfledged Hawaii XT cores boom did 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:42.959 you say boo or boom boom boom boom like like boom as in like Yeah 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:48.920 we should have sound effects on this show like on radio you probably haven't seen this but the Battlefield 4 Easter 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:54.800 egg if you happen to make that water thing 00:11:52.880 --> 00:11:58.640 if you look close enough right when he hits the water there's like a fire 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:02.000 explosion then it instantly switches to water if you look close enough it's 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:06.720 there and if you follow the people's camera when they're in the water it's 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:11.120 like it blows up but like only for a second it's how they're simulating the 00:12:08.079 --> 00:12:14.880 Yeah that's fascinating 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:17.519 that is a cheap hack and I love it yeah 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:23.120 taking advantage of the excellent water physics they already have in the game 00:12:19.760 --> 00:12:25.360 and a mechanic they've already built y 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:29.440 if go look at that footage again pay attention and look for the the the like 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:34.240 yellowy fire explosion that would happen from like a bomb in Battlefield 4 and 00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:38.959 watch it just disappear like right away touche dice touche yep i don't know how 00:12:37.839 --> 00:12:43.440 many people have actually noticed that but I love it i I had to segue to that 00:12:41.839 --> 00:12:48.360 because I was like "This somehow connects." And there we go done speaking 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:53.279 of Connect lots lots of great Microsoft news this 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:57.760 week although very little of it is to do with Connect if at all nothing's to do 00:12:55.200 --> 00:13:02.399 with Connect all right well hold on you could make the argument that Cortana 00:12:59.680 --> 00:13:07.920 could potentially be connected at some point yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah because 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:12.399 I I don't see Microsoft putting a bunch of resources into an excellent voice 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:15.680 control mechanism and then not putting it on the Xbox One which desperately 00:13:14.079 --> 00:13:24.480 needs it all right so Windows 8 will be free on 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:26.440 devices under 9 in this is amazing and 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:31.440 it pretty much makes me forgive Microsoft but not Google for that whole 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:36.560 thing with not allowing tablets that run both OSS so our original source here is 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:40.480 the Verge and the idea is that with 00:13:36.560 --> 00:13:42.560 phones and tablets this has been a huge 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:48.639 roadblock for Microsoft gaining any market share because let me tell you 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:51.839 from talking to guys like HTC about the 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:53.920 kinds of constraints that they are under 00:13:51.839 --> 00:13:58.560 when building a cell phone they basically are at the mercy of the 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:04.639 providers who say "Look we're going to sell it for this much under contract 00:14:01.959 --> 00:14:09.680 so whatever it costs you we don't care figure it out 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:12.480 that is how that business works so for 00:14:09.680 --> 00:14:17.199 Microsoft to take some of the burden off of the handset makers to where they have 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:22.639 to pay for the OS compared to Android which is free and iOS which Apple is 00:14:19.839 --> 00:14:26.480 obviously subsidizing in enough ways that they can just say okay well you 00:14:24.880 --> 00:14:31.040 know we don't have to charge ourselves for the OS because we're going to make 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:36.480 money on the 30% cut we take on the app store we're going to make money on any 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:38.320 kinds of purchases off of iTunes that 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:41.920 this ecosystem builds they don't have to worry about the cost of the OS where now 00:14:40.079 --> 00:14:45.440 Microsoft is making Windows free on devices with screens under 9 in i love 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:48.560 it it's very cool uh I saw a lot of people in the comments celebrating 00:14:47.199 --> 00:14:52.560 saying that they were going to install it i don't know yeah it's not that 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:55.120 simple no I think this is more awesome because you're going to see it on more 00:14:53.600 --> 00:15:01.040 devices hopefully at a cheaper price point and stuff not necessarily because you're going to be able to like hack 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:04.079 hack and doze your phone although that would be cool that would be pretty cool 00:15:02.880 --> 00:15:10.720 that would be really cool and like maybe that becomes a thing i don't know but right now it's like not so because I 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:14.160 mean that's one of the big problems with Windows Phone it's the very limited 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:17.440 hardware that's available that's another thing actually to segue into another 00:15:15.839 --> 00:15:22.959 topic which I don't even know where it is um but they're encouraging people to 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:29.440 make cross-platform apps now so they're making it so if you make an app for the 00:15:24.959 --> 00:15:31.600 Windows Store on a Windows 8.1 PC it 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:35.600 should hopefully also work on the phone right yeah no they're they're they're 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:39.519 pushing much tighter integration across the platforms overall in fact I've got a 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:44.399 YouTube video here that we can just go ahead and have a quick quick boo at this 00:15:41.839 --> 00:15:48.800 video is awesome yeah the video's super No it's not that one it's a different 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:51.759 one uh the video is super short Windows 00:15:48.800 --> 00:15:57.600 and Windows Phone together and basically um Joe Belior just talks about how they 00:15:55.600 --> 00:16:02.600 want them to be better integrated and he shows a quick example okay he talks for 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:07.670 a bit 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:08.920 bloop bloop okay so he shows an example 00:16:08.920 --> 00:16:15.279 bloop come on bloop 00:16:12.079 --> 00:16:18.320 where he changes the background desktop 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:20.720 wallpaper color so the theme on his 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:24.560 phone and a few seconds later although they've edited the video so I have no 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:29.839 idea how many seconds it actually took a few seconds later the the Windows 00:16:26.800 --> 00:16:31.759 desktop changes color as well and then 00:16:29.839 --> 00:16:36.480 of course they're going to work with um what do they call it now one drive the 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:39.120 rebranding of Sky Drive so their cloud storage is going to be tightly 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:44.399 integrated they want the apps to be tightly integrated so that you're having 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:48.639 more of an ecosystem experience and that is ultimately how they're going to make 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:54.399 this strategy work microsoft is making a big bet here because this is such a huge 00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:59.600 departure from their traditional business of selling you the OS upfront 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:04.079 whereas now you look at the new strategy they're going to go "Okay 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:09.280 well we still want you to buy Windows." Mind you they're slashing prices on 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:15.199 Windows on Windows 8.1 for desktops as well by 70% for makers for device makers 00:17:12.959 --> 00:17:18.720 not for standalone so they're basically going "Okay look we're going to sell you 00:17:16.959 --> 00:17:23.520 much cheaper Windows for your desktop machine we're going to give it to you 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:25.280 for your phone and your tablet and then 00:17:23.520 --> 00:17:28.720 we need to find other ways to make up that revenue." But I'm looking at some 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:32.880 of the ways that they're doing it going "Wow this is really smart." So let's 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:39.120 talk about Office for iPad for a moment here yep definitely office for iPad 00:17:35.760 --> 00:17:41.679 downloads reached 12 million 00:17:39.120 --> 00:17:47.520 collectively massive that is a big number i mean the number of iPads out 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:53.440 there I think is estimated to be somewhere in the 150 million to 250 00:17:51.120 --> 00:17:59.360 million sort of range so if you look at that and go okay let's say even you know 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:06.000 the higher number is more accurate that means that like 5% of iPad users are so 00:18:03.679 --> 00:18:10.559 tired of the other productivity solutions that they want Microsoft 00:18:08.320 --> 00:18:16.720 Office which let's face it is probably the only reason that a Surface RT ever 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:19.360 sold a single unit two two quick questions before we keep going forward 00:18:17.919 --> 00:18:24.000 how long do you think until they rename it Office One instead of Office 365 and 00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:31.440 two what do you think the next word is going to be because right now everyone is naming everything something one well 00:18:28.080 --> 00:18:32.880 hopefully not Word one i I want word no 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:38.640 I I don't mean word as in Oh that's confusing i don't mean word as in the program i mean word is in how everyone's 00:18:36.080 --> 00:18:45.440 using the word one like everyone's going to switch at some point 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:47.200 they I hope I want I want word up 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:54.160 it's worth a shot word up is the subscription one because it just constantly gets better yes okay tim Tim 00:18:52.080 --> 00:19:00.080 from Microsoft man I hope you're watching please like 00:18:57.280 --> 00:19:06.080 like send some emails okay it needs to be called Word Up like the step up model 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:09.360 okay so anyway the free version of 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:11.600 Office for iPad actually only supports a 00:19:09.360 --> 00:19:18.520 very limited set of features and the way that Microsoft wants you to give them 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:22.840 money is by going for an Office 365 00:19:18.520 --> 00:19:25.760 subscription so it's $99 or more for a 00:19:22.840 --> 00:19:32.080 year and let's talk frankly about this for a moment does Office 365 make sense 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:33.760 to you um I think we were we were 00:19:32.080 --> 00:19:41.200 talking earlier did my whole computer just lock up why do I have so many problems with laptops no it's all good 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:43.120 um called about about No it's not it's 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:49.600 called my previous laptop is really really old now and has problems and this 00:19:45.760 --> 00:19:51.840 one and do you like this laptop no 00:19:49.600 --> 00:19:55.200 anyway um uh was I going to say yeah we were 00:19:53.919 --> 00:20:00.080 talking about doing it for the business but it's really expensive because of how 00:19:57.760 --> 00:20:06.000 many subs we'd have to get y um for But it allows five devices and collaborative 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:11.039 tools i mean but is it five different users no five devices per user so as a 00:20:09.840 --> 00:20:15.840 as a company that's a lot of subscriptions okay but if I want people 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:19.919 to be able to work out of office more easily if I want them to be able to 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:25.520 definitely do if I want them to like Okay no I mean great example of this is 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:28.640 if I want to share um like a B-roll shot 00:20:25.520 --> 00:20:30.640 list with someone really easily that I 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:34.400 kind of created but I need to finish up if I could edit that on my phone share 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:38.880 it with the group and send a push notification how great does that make 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:43.360 that would be really nice or if you can if you have your laptop and you want to 00:20:41.120 --> 00:20:47.760 be able to uh you know do a PowerPoint presentation on some other machine just 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:51.600 being able to grab it the advantages are tangible and the cost compared to 00:20:49.760 --> 00:20:56.480 something like Creative Cloud which we already subscribed to for how much is 00:20:54.320 --> 00:21:00.320 Creative Cloud $80 a month per user I think excuse me not sure something like 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:05.760 that and the cost is actually not that high if you look at it from a monthly 00:21:02.679 --> 00:21:08.159 perspective uh yeah Office 365 is five 00:21:05.760 --> 00:21:11.440 computers and five devices there you go so that's from someone in Twitch chat 00:21:09.760 --> 00:21:16.559 here and like that's cool and I can definitely see it for university kids 00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:19.840 because cuz I'm just so tired of other solutions although at the same time if 00:21:18.320 --> 00:21:24.400 you just bought whatever release version of Word was released at the beginning of 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:29.679 your university life you could probably use it the entire time through but then 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:33.360 it doesn't have all the integration and the live editing and collaboration 00:21:31.520 --> 00:21:37.200 honestly I see this being more of a feature for people that are going to have to like maybe business kids they're 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:41.520 going to have to do a lot of collaborative work on big documents and 00:21:39.600 --> 00:21:44.080 and offices i don't know if it necessarily makes as much sense for us 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:48.320 because we're going to spend a lot more of our time NVIDIA editing software i 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:53.919 don't think any I don't think everyone here needs it no I think you need it and 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:57.679 I need it probably but I think that Okay 00:21:53.919 --> 00:21:59.200 like how tired are you of Dropbox and 00:21:57.679 --> 00:22:04.000 like I've gotten to the point where because sometimes it doesn't sync 00:22:02.159 --> 00:22:07.840 correctly with Dropbox and you resave it and then it doesn't go elsewhere and 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:13.280 like it's and even though I save on the server my massive massive Excel sheet 00:22:11.919 --> 00:22:17.679 which like I understand why it's crashing because it's massive because I 00:22:15.760 --> 00:22:22.000 keep everything in there but it can still crash and then that's catastrophic 00:22:20.159 --> 00:22:25.200 and it just doesn't work that well whereas if I can have something that 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:29.919 just syncs correctly all the time I would pay money for that the problem and 00:22:27.520 --> 00:22:33.679 but again this is where Microsoft is still needs to get your money from you 00:22:31.520 --> 00:22:38.720 somehow is that it is only going to work with one drive so right now the iPad app 00:22:36.159 --> 00:22:42.960 has no integration with other services like Google Drive or Dropbox so they 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:46.159 want to sell you cloud storage they want to sell you a subscription to their 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:50.799 software but they're going to give you the OS for free 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:54.960 it sounds crazy because it's Microsoft but is it really any different from what 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:59.760 other guys are doing i just saw someone type in Twitch chat it It's not free 00:22:57.360 --> 00:23:04.559 because it's a subscription you idiots i have no idea what that guy means Windows 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:08.240 will be free that's not a subscription oh is that what he interpreted from what 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:11.919 we were saying yeah cuz we know we know Office 365 isn't free we I just spent 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:17.760 like a while talking about how it might be too expensive for the company to 00:23:13.840 --> 00:23:20.640 adopt to it um but yeah I just like h I 00:23:17.760 --> 00:23:24.640 don't know all right so let's move on to Oh actually no there was more good 00:23:22.080 --> 00:23:29.919 Microsoft news I wanted to Ah yes the Windows 8.1 update so I think you're a 00:23:28.159 --> 00:23:34.000 big fan of everything that's going on here so maybe I'll play the video for 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:40.880 them and you can kind of kind of talk while Joe talks or doesn't talk because 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:43.039 he's muted so okay so go hard so I saw I 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:46.000 saw a leak on The Verge i saw a leak on a bunch of other things new York Times 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:51.679 which I was really scared of going to because of what they've done to me lately i feel like an abused child when 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:55.679 it comes to the New York Times um some people will get that not everyone but 00:23:53.840 --> 00:23:58.320 this is a leak about different well not really a leak it's official uh about 00:23:57.360 --> 00:24:03.280 different things that are coming to Windows 8.1 update 1 they should have 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:07.120 just called it Windows 8.2 but or Service Pack one or Service Pack one or 00:24:05.280 --> 00:24:11.120 something that they've done before but whatever everyone sucks at naming 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:15.679 nowadays i know right so we'll just take it I guess um but they're stepping back 00:24:14.320 --> 00:24:19.600 and doing some things that they should have done for a long time and they're doing some of them in very interesting 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.600 ways so they're doing stuff like you can boot and resume directly to your desktop 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:26.720 yay super cool but then at the same time 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:32.159 this is very easy to hack in yourself and why wasn't that a feature before anyway why wasn't that a feature before 00:24:29.760 --> 00:24:35.919 straight to desktop no modern UI seriously uh Windows Store apps can now 00:24:34.080 --> 00:24:40.720 open as Windows and can be pinned to the taskbar that is very cool because it's 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:44.320 super frustrating when I open something and like the default program which I 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:48.080 know I can change but still is a Windows app and then it's like how do I even get 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:52.640 out of this how do I get back to what I was doing why is it my full screen all 00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:57.279 this other junk so now it can open as as as Windows on your desktop which is nice 00:24:55.279 --> 00:25:02.400 i mean I think the most offensive one there had to be the picture viewing app 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:08.240 the default one oh my god it is the giantest steamingiest pile of garbage 00:25:05.520 --> 00:25:11.600 ever like it really is so I'm going to go ahead i'm just going to open up like 00:25:09.679 --> 00:25:16.400 one of my thumbnails and I'm going to intentionally open it with this terrible 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:21.760 terrible application why you photos who knows why you would ever want to use it 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:23.799 i have no idea okay so photos so I open 00:25:21.760 --> 00:25:29.840 it in this thing and it's like okay what can I do oh okay it's 00:25:27.760 --> 00:25:33.360 actually managing to switch between I've rarely even seen it be able to do that 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:38.320 before i know so half the time it doesn't even do that how do I How do I 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:41.440 make it full screen okay and then but then one thing is you're doing all this 00:25:39.679 --> 00:25:44.640 with a touchcreen as well and I'm doing this with a touchcreen it's it's a lot 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:48.400 worse without a touch screen like I hate that thing a lot a lot worse it's the 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:51.919 first thing that I that makes me realize that I'm on Windows 8 is see and then 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:56.559 you're trying to press the escape button cuz you're like I want to out because it's a full screen application escape 00:25:54.960 --> 00:26:02.080 should make it not full screen cuz you're supposed to escape the application but anyways uh yeah now a 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:06.480 thing going to be in Windows that's very nice they're also going to have minimize 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:09.440 and close buttons in the top right hand corner which is going to be nice so if 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:13.919 you're in full screen you can actually minimize it now it'll minimize it now 00:26:11.679 --> 00:26:18.240 although we're we just barely cut off so they can't see it awesome anyway that's 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:22.080 great but yeah that that's there now which is awesome and again should have 00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:25.679 been there for a really really long time um they added media control to store 00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:30.400 apps in the taskbar although this was definitely already a thing in Windows 7 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:35.440 but like they added it to the store apps which is like K well okay i don't that 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:40.080 definitely should have just been like an automatic knee-jerk we need this to be a 00:26:37.520 --> 00:26:43.360 thing not a added feature but you can shut down the computer without dragging 00:26:41.520 --> 00:26:48.080 your mouse to the bottom corner carefully moving it up so you don't go 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:52.480 outside of the little the little band there and then yeah so that's good happy 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:55.840 that's back happy the search is there as well and then there's also now a tile 00:26:54.320 --> 00:26:59.039 icon for PC settings so there's like almost no reason to swipe in from the 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:04.559 right anymore because that was super dumb so luckily that's no longer a thing 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:09.520 um there's now right-click context menu for things in the modern UI junk which 00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:13.279 hopefully will never be in there anyways um and you can like move groups of 00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:18.400 things around because you can now multi select by holding control again hopefully it'll just never be in there 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:23.039 anyways one thing about that though is that's not intuitive at all for people 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:26.880 who are like touchscreen computer operators it's like yeah you can 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:32.240 rearrange like that to me holding control to multi select is a power user 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:34.240 thing that's not something my mom does 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:38.240 so like even implementing features like that in modern UI it's like why are you 00:27:35.760 --> 00:27:41.200 even spending the time yeah in modern UI yeah yeah definitely agree in in the 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:46.159 rest of the computer it's like okay that makes sense but that's already a thing yeah it's already a thing um so yeah I 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:50.480 hear you on that but then again hopefully you're just never going to use it anyways so who cares let them 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.679 innovate as much as they want um in the all apps section things are now 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.360 highlighted as you guys can probably see on screen nope he's not showing it 00:27:55.120 --> 00:28:00.159 anyways um now if you go to all apps newly installed applications will be 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:04.399 highlighted so you can find them easily which is like all right cool I guess and 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:08.880 then what everyone actually cares about which we are still can't see is the new 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:13.440 start menu which I'm not very good at this it's just if you now click on the 00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:16.960 start menu it shows a more classic styled start menu and then it has 00:28:15.120 --> 00:28:21.840 Metroled um things on the right which is I 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:26.720 actually think is pretty cool um and the only place in here where I wasn't like 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:32.159 okay well I either hate modern UI and don't use it so don't care about any of 00:28:28.320 --> 00:28:34.720 these changes or um I just installed 00:28:32.159 --> 00:28:38.960 classic start or some other form of start button and got all these things 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:43.440 like directly to desktop anyways so why does any of this matter the start menu 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:50.399 looks really good um it has the old style can you share that if you click 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:52.240 there oh my god I hate Windows 8 nope 00:28:50.399 --> 00:28:56.799 doesn't work really you have it set up like that you don't have a start menu 00:28:53.840 --> 00:29:01.279 set up i use touch okay i guess it makes sense you have touch um and I don't use 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:04.399 the start menu i pin everything i haven't touched the start menu on my 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:09.120 desktop in month you just pin everything yeah that's true but now you can pin I 00:29:07.679 --> 00:29:12.799 can show you guys my setup yeah I could pin modern apps if I wanted to why you 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:17.200 even would want to no one knows but now you can do it now we can do it my thing 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:20.720 is now you not pinning them but now they open in Windows so they don't disrupt 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:24.240 you as much at least if you accidentally happen to open a modern app you can just 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:29.200 close it i mean you know what the funny thing is is when they tried to simplify 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:33.520 um when they try okay when when Microsoft realized that most people are 00:29:31.600 --> 00:29:37.760 only running probably a couple dozen apps on a daily basis on their computers 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:45.159 and they went okay well let's create this modern UI where there's like nice big clickable buttons for them all or 00:29:41.520 --> 00:29:48.320 touchable or whatever they are um what 00:29:45.159 --> 00:29:50.080 they screwed up was probably just the 00:29:48.320 --> 00:29:54.000 fact that you that it completely took over your screen and stuff like that 00:29:51.360 --> 00:29:57.840 because I actually agree with the approach which is why I like the new 00:29:55.679 --> 00:30:03.200 start menu which if you have showed it yet i can't find it in the video okay 00:30:00.159 --> 00:30:06.240 anyways uh maybe Google image search 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:09.600 because I can plug into you okay 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:12.159 um but but I realized at that time that 00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:17.840 I'm already like that anyway i only have I mean now that I don't need a separate 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:20.320 launcher for every one of my games and I 00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:26.399 can just launch everything through Steam i I only use like maybe 20 programs yep 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:30.399 so there you go and like the nice thing about the new start menu which I think I 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:35.440 finally found don't plug it in yet it won't switch to it anyway and close that 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:41.360 okay it Whoa yeah don't worry about it i know okay so can we show this now yep 00:30:37.840 --> 00:30:43.600 should be fine but you can't see that 00:30:41.360 --> 00:30:47.919 here hold on hold on hold on there's the thing 00:30:45.600 --> 00:30:53.039 wow this thing is so poopy i hate this laptop i know i don't like it either 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:57.600 we've been through this we've been through so very many things all right 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:59.679 just just Google image search this just 00:30:57.600 --> 00:31:03.679 Windows 8.1 update one start menu that's all you need to do wow you make my life 00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:08.159 anyways it's it's has the more classicy style start menu with this I it has an 00:31:06.399 --> 00:31:11.919 all apps thing but I believe that's essentially the search button then on 00:31:09.679 --> 00:31:14.720 the right it has Metro style buttons i'm don't even know why I'm describing this 00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:19.120 one you're just going to pull it up that's not it 00:31:19.120 --> 00:31:29.120 where is it this one no what did you even type in this one that must be it i 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:31.679 don't think so oh no well why didn't you 00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:37.240 just link me to horrible you're horrible update one what oh all right 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:44.960 i don't even know what you're talking about that's one I think is this it are 00:31:43.360 --> 00:31:50.960 you sure that's not the one I have on my screen but that's one of them no 00:31:47.919 --> 00:31:54.840 no no no 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:57.200 there there there there there okay we 00:31:54.840 --> 00:32:01.279 finally all right so this is from ours Technica oh you guys have been watching 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:05.760 this whole thing i was screen sharing the whole time okay there we go so so 00:32:03.919 --> 00:32:10.320 you can see it has a more classic style start menu on the left side and it has 00:32:07.760 --> 00:32:14.000 more um I almost said metro tiles that makes so much more sense to me modern UI 00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:17.200 tiles on the right which is actually totally fine because you can even see 00:32:15.360 --> 00:32:21.120 here there's a feed and I like that a lot cuz you can have feed style all I'm 00:32:19.679 --> 00:32:24.720 going to put in there really is feed style stuff y so that I can just like 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:29.519 click there figure out what's going on right now youtube and stuff like that i want to 00:32:27.600 --> 00:32:32.559 put all my feed style things in there just so I can if I'm going for apps I 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:36.240 can see all these other things happening which I think this is actually great and 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:39.200 that's why I'm super stoked about this because I think this is actually the 00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:42.720 direction they should have gone in the first place i think they figured it out 00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:45.440 this is so much better in my opinion than any of the ones that at least I 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:51.200 have tried maybe there's one out there because I haven't tried anything on Windows 8.1 in a very long time because 00:32:49.120 --> 00:32:54.880 I'm just using Windows 7 because I'm more used to it and I like it um but 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:58.799 that's the direction I'm hoping for so I'm excited for Windows 9 because I hope 00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:02.320 they keep doing stuff like this or Windows whatever it's going to be but 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:08.559 don't worry gamers you will not have to update to Windows 8.1 or Windows 9 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:12.320 because DirectX12 has been confirmed for 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:14.880 Windows 7 and up the only version that 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:19.600 is that is not getting DirectX12 is starter edition which let's face it you 00:33:17.760 --> 00:33:23.919 weren't running DirectX12 ready hardware anyway no this is like netbooks and 00:33:21.600 --> 00:33:28.320 stuff so don't worry about it so that's great news love it thank you for Undead 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:33.039 Mike 18 for posting that on the forum and this tying in with like all of the 00:33:30.399 --> 00:33:38.240 other Microsoft news ties into the death of the strategy tax conversation um 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:42.159 which is where Microsoft had an internal thing where you couldn't do anything 00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:46.080 that was competitive with anything else in Microsoft's ecosystem within your own 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:49.760 ecosystem so if you were developing for some sort of platform if you wanted to 00:33:48.080 --> 00:33:54.320 do something if it conflicted with anything else you couldn't do it which I 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:59.760 think you should probably give an example or two i was just going to you 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:05.919 okay that's good so like if you were trying to release DirectX 12 it should 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:08.399 be on new operating systems to drive 00:34:05.919 --> 00:34:12.399 people to adopt new operating systems not Windows 7 because then you're not 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:16.960 you're you're actually creating a competing platform essentially because you're you're making an older something 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:21.760 better which they're not trying to sell anymore they're now trying to sell 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:25.200 Windows 8.1 and possibly Windows 9 in the future so if they were like coming 00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:30.800 to Windows 8.1 that would drive their new goal not Windows 7 another example 00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:35.839 would be um you know if the Internet Explorer team was trying to uh 00:34:33.359 --> 00:34:39.919 dramatically update or fix the way that web-based word processors that aren't 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:44.560 made by Microsoft work within the browser that might get the old "Hey hold 00:34:42.879 --> 00:34:48.639 on what are you doing you're you're not helping us sell Word you're you're 00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:55.520 you're you're just doing your own thing i was gonna try and come up with some example that wasn't in the article yeah 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.119 whatever um it's a good example it is a 00:34:55.520 --> 00:35:00.640 pretty good example but and like that's they're they're both examples of that's 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:04.160 not good for the users that might be good for sales numbers maybe in the 00:35:02.560 --> 00:35:07.440 short term but that's not good for the users and it's really frustrating 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:12.000 because you're like well I have Windows 7 i like Windows 7 i want to be able to 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.119 use DirectX12 well I have this browser i like this browser i want to be able to 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:19.920 do basic word editing stuff in this browser i don't want to have to use Word 00:35:17.839 --> 00:35:24.160 right and that it makes your products just inferior and then no one wants any 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:27.839 of them exactly so in the long term it makes things everything bad instead of 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:32.960 one or two things bad so hopefully we're done with that at least for the time 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:35.040 being and DirectX12 yay i can play Star 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:39.680 Citizen in all its DirectX12 glory assuming they support Direct i'm sure 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.200 they will um and I don't have to upgrade 00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:45.040 sweet yeah that's actually a really interesting thing because everyone's talking about how they have to upgrade 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:47.079 so much for Star C and stuff maybe it won't be as big of a deal at least not 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:53.839 the OS okay so without further ado let's get 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.839 into our sponsor 00:35:53.960 --> 00:36:01.640 messages what on earth will you be doing at PAX East brought to you of course by 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:07.040 Intel and Corsair without Intel and Corsair he wouldn't be going because I'm 00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:10.880 not going to pay for it nope 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00:36:51.359 --> 00:36:57.359 around the Intel booth and I'm probably going to be focusing on stuff like the 00:36:54.640 --> 00:37:02.920 indie mega booth um because indie games are awesome really you're going to talk 00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:02.920 about indie games 00:37:03.359 --> 00:37:10.000 uh because indie games are awesome and there's going to be 10 billion other publications that talk about all the AAA 00:37:07.520 --> 00:37:13.680 games that are there so we're just going to cover indie games and maybe a few 00:37:11.680 --> 00:37:18.000 other ones but probably mainly just I actually don't care what he does no nope 00:37:17.040 --> 00:37:24.400 he doesn't even know what's going to be there probably nope i have no idea so 00:37:22.160 --> 00:37:28.480 basically from my perspective I've asked him we have to do a few things for our 00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:31.839 sponsors so we have to make sure that we got we're bringing you the very best 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.800 coverage of what Intel's got going on there which is some pretty cool stuff 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.680 which helps a lot we're also going to have a pretty sweet giveaway that we're 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:42.160 supporting that's going to involve some kind of ASUS tablet i don't know exactly 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:46.000 what yet so that's going to be pretty possibly another thing pretty freaking 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:49.520 Smurf possibly other things as well um so we're going to have that going on so 00:37:47.839 --> 00:37:54.640 we're going to be promoting that but other than that I basically went "Okay 00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:58.240 uh Luke Brandon it's B team all the way you guys decide what kind of coverage 00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:01.920 you want to create and there's no pressure to make like a billion videos 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:06.960 so I just want them to bring you guys the best like summarized tight content 00:38:05.520 --> 00:38:12.160 that they can from the show so it should be really great well also uh Brandon and 00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:17.760 I both got into the Star Citizen show on Thursday night um although I don't know 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.720 what the terms are for that because our team didn't get into the meeting with 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:24.880 Chris Roberts so we don't know if we like try to take a camera in if they're 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.640 just going to be like no or if they're going to let us film stuff there like we 00:38:26.720 --> 00:38:32.560 have no idea but we're going to try and gorilla film as much as we can while 00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:40.000 we're there i emailed Mr roberts personally and got no reply about our 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:42.880 lack of invitation i know he's arguably 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:50.000 probably very busy yeah but Oh my god and imagine his inbox i Oh 00:38:47.720 --> 00:38:55.200 god I don't even want to think about that like mine actually scares me 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:59.839 imagine speaking of things that are scary 00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:03.040 websites that look good and are easy wouldn't you say websites that look bad 00:39:01.359 --> 00:39:07.000 and are hard and you can get away from that by joining Squarespace yeah that's 00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:11.880 a way better segway i should get you to do all the 00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:17.599 integrations from now on no so squarespace.com the fast easy scalable 00:39:14.720 --> 00:39:22.720 inexpensive and all those good words way to build your own beautiful functional 00:39:19.839 --> 00:39:27.680 website they have a wide variety of fantastic templates to choose from you 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:33.839 can use their logo creator to make your own simple and yet effective logo and 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:39.440 you can get online in a matter of well okay let's put it this way they give you 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:41.280 a two-eek trial of access to everything 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:45.520 after which time you should basically have your website completely up and 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:51.680 running whether it's a blog or a uh you know like a news feed or a portfolio or 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:54.160 even a web store in fact I heard a rumor 00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:58.560 that another popular tech YouTuber who does a long format news show similar to 00:39:56.720 --> 00:40:05.040 what we're doing but we weren't copy him i swear um did I say copying him i we 00:40:01.839 --> 00:40:06.800 weren't copying him i swear uh I heard 00:40:05.040 --> 00:40:10.720 that you know there might be a web store powered by Squarespace in the future for 00:40:08.720 --> 00:40:14.880 an individual like that it really is a great platform we use it for 00:40:12.359 --> 00:40:19.359 linusmedi.com it really isn't expensive and it really does scale with you if all 00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:24.400 of a sudden things take off and you get a ton more traffic no big deal 00:40:21.839 --> 00:40:27.599 squarespace just goes "Okay hey he needs more bandwidth and more resources now 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:31.440 let's make this happen." So they have a wide variety of different plans for 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:35.200 anyone from just a simple you know blogger with a camera who wants to do it 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:39.119 as a hobby all the way up to people who are trying to run legitimate e-commerce 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:43.520 stores and trying to support their business with a squarespace.com website 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:49.680 so guys highly recommended and if you want 10% off I'm going to say this just 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.680 in case they can't read visit 00:40:50.200 --> 00:41:00.160 squarespace.com/lus typewriter style for a free trial and 10% off use offer code 00:40:57.319 --> 00:41:06.560 Linus that's the stupidest integration we've ever done i'm sorry i'm 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:10.079 sorry but I think we got the point across we like Squarespace we use it 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:14.560 it's good stuff you guys should try it too in fact Squarespace out of all of 00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:18.640 our sponsors is I think the one that I got the most positive feedback about 00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:21.920 last time I asked people to tell us about their positive experiences with 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:26.000 our sponsors during the show my biggest problem now legitimately is people will 00:41:24.560 --> 00:41:29.280 like a buddy of mine I'm not going to drop names but a buddy of mine is 00:41:27.680 --> 00:41:32.800 starting a tax service so you can do your taxes for you what not what should 00:41:31.040 --> 00:41:36.720 I be leaving my Squarespace lower third are you still talking about I'm still talking about Squarespace yeah a buddy 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:42.640 of mine started doing a tax service thing and he's like hey can I get you to help me with my website I was like sure 00:41:40.040 --> 00:41:47.280 yeah then like look into it he's hosting on GoDaddy I was like oh okay well we 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:51.440 can move your domain over oh no you have a WordPress site and you bought a year 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:54.400 of hosting from GoDaddy and Like I'm like "Well it looks pretty good can you 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:59.440 use the template?" And then like things just start breaking all over the place 00:41:56.560 --> 00:42:03.760 and I'm just like "Uh um I guess I guess we can revisit this in a year when when 00:42:02.160 --> 00:42:07.520 your current subscription dies then we'll move to Squarespace." And at that 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:12.000 time it's such an obvious solution it really is because and like it's easier 00:42:09.359 --> 00:42:16.160 for me that's my thing cuz like it's so much easier for me to set up a 00:42:13.839 --> 00:42:19.200 Squarespace site than it is a WordPress site i know because you set up our 00:42:17.839 --> 00:42:26.560 WordPress site and it was a total nightmare in itself because I'm not a designer it worked when I was messing 00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:27.680 with it it just there was nothing on it 00:42:26.560 --> 00:42:31.680 so that's one of the things that's easier about Squarespace as well you 00:42:29.839 --> 00:42:37.040 don't have to be a designer to make it look good all right so moving into our 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:40.240 next topic here guys i think that was our longest Squarespace integration ever 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:46.480 hopefully we made up for it with quantity over quality 00:42:42.640 --> 00:42:49.839 it's all about that over here um ah yes 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:53.920 apple patents what appears to be a mount 00:42:49.839 --> 00:42:56.480 for swappable phone lenses this is 00:42:53.920 --> 00:43:02.800 legitimately exciting because one of the biggest challenges to making an awesome 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:05.520 phone on a camera is the sheer physics 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:10.560 an awesome camera on a phone whatever or phone on a camera i don't care i'm okay 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:14.800 with something like a Galaxy camera that it says a phone on a camera so just calm 00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:19.359 your boobs boobs is a much nicer word for web 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:22.560 streaming than tits unappealing word well so that it didn't 00:43:21.040 --> 00:43:26.079 actually say anything you backed me into a corner no I didn't by laughing at my 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.640 use of the word boobs anyway one of the problems with creating an excellent 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:35.839 camera on a phone is the fact that consumers demand thinner and thinner 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:38.640 devices and but do they i don't actually 00:43:35.839 --> 00:43:42.960 really think so i kind of like it but like have you seen an iPad Air but is it 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:47.119 really driving stuff that much that's an iPad not a phone it's like sexy but the 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:51.040 but the upcoming iPhone 6 is rumored to be air thin and like I think it might 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:57.520 get to the point where it's it's like too thin and becomes awkward i think 00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:59.200 that when we reach that point I will not 00:43:57.520 --> 00:44:04.319 reach that point yet and you will because you have sausage fingers it's 00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:05.839 I'm already at that point anyway one of 00:44:04.319 --> 00:44:11.520 the biggest challenges is that there simply isn't enough thickness to 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:15.440 properly create a lens system that can do all the things they want it to do 00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:18.880 optical image stabilization putting a big sensor behind it so you can get 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:23.440 really nice depth of field effects when you're taking pictures and if Apple can 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:27.359 get around this by going okay look we're going to have the stock lens on there 00:44:25.359 --> 00:44:30.400 and that'll do what it does and we can do all the software processing in the 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:35.440 world and ultimately there will be a limit to what can be done but we're 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:39.839 going to build in a standard so you could actually put much larger or much 00:44:37.839 --> 00:44:42.720 more complicated or more specialized lenses because that's a big part of the 00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:50.079 problem too is that it's one sizefits-all and you could put specialized lenses on your phone i mean 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:52.160 the iPhone is already according to a 00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:54.880 crap what site was it i think it's in I think it's in our notes i think it's in 00:44:53.359 --> 00:44:59.280 our notes talking about the camera yeah flicker's data shows that the iPhone is 00:44:57.200 --> 00:45:04.480 already a more popular camera than anything that Canon or Nikon makes so if 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.359 you could take better pictures with it a lot of people would be pretty darn 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:12.960 interested makes a lot of sense though because then just more uploads are going to come from a phone it's easier yeah oh 00:45:11.040 --> 00:45:17.920 I know like I get it yeah I'm just saying if what is obviously a popular 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.960 photo taking device gets a significant upgrade in image quality and I know a 00:45:19.200 --> 00:45:24.160 lot of people buy these lenses and you could charge a lot for them and they 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:28.800 would still buy them because like it's just going to be so much easier well it's the same shutter bugs that are 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:32.640 spending a lot on other lenses no exactly yeah and even even people that 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:37.200 aren't necessarily getting really high-end nice cameras because maybe they 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:40.800 can't afford the whole package but take a lot of photos and enjoy taking their 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:43.920 photos could buy a lens for their phone which isn't buying into a whole 00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:47.680 different ecosystem and probably a lot cheaper in the end even if that one lens 00:45:45.520 --> 00:45:51.440 is really expensive mhm i could definitely see quite a few people that 00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:59.280 I'm friends with like the Instagram nuts um Yep getting this super smart move and 00:45:54.319 --> 00:46:02.000 I super love it all right so this has 00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:09.000 caused waves this week posted originally on the forum by Colonel Mortis mosilla 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:14.480 CEO resigns over anti-gay marriage 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:17.440 controversy so what happened was he made 00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:25.560 a $1,000 donation to an anti-gay marriage ballot proposal in California 00:46:20.319 --> 00:46:27.839 proposition 8 yes so this was a personal 00:46:25.560 --> 00:46:33.920 contribution not like he was using Mosilla's resources in order to to 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:38.079 contribute to a political cause that 00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:40.560 however you may feel about it is legal 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:44.079 right now it's technically Yeah it is well it's not even technically legal 00:46:42.160 --> 00:46:47.680 it's legal whatever you might think about it you're allowed to contribute to 00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:52.160 Oh I thought you were saying Okay never mind i thought I'm talking about something else give me No no no no 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:56.480 you're so you're you're allowed to contribute to causes that that you 00:46:54.079 --> 00:47:01.800 believe in whatever other people might think about you doing that um that's a 00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:10.000 free speech thing yes so we all know what resigned means i 00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:12.000 mean three other board members resigned 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:19.119 around the time that he was appointed CEO we already know this before before 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:22.079 this whole thing went down so we we know 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:28.480 that we know that there's no official word that those resignations were 00:47:24.720 --> 00:47:30.960 directly related to this or his views or 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:36.680 him being before he even was Yeah it was before he was publicly announced as CEO 00:47:33.560 --> 00:47:41.560 was right around that time yeah 00:47:36.680 --> 00:47:47.200 um so I would like to hear from you 00:47:41.560 --> 00:47:49.920 guys if we you know hired a new employee 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:57.200 for example and we were to discover that that employee uh participated in an 00:47:53.680 --> 00:47:59.960 anti-gay marriage protest or even a 00:47:57.200 --> 00:48:05.599 pro-gay marriage protest can we put pressure on them to 00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:08.400 resign is that the right thing to do so I'm going to create a straw poll here i 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.319 think these are going to be two different situations because there 00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:18.960 there's two there's two different arguments I can think of let's go with they participate in an anti-gay marriage 00:48:16.720 --> 00:48:22.640 protest so let's go with the one scenario so you could have different 00:48:20.240 --> 00:48:30.400 options let's just go with one let's go with one to start on the employee to 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:36.119 leave the company okay so one answer one 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:39.000 is yes answer two is 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:43.920 um no I guess i mean is that about all there is 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:50.000 to it i was trying to find something in between come up with something else too 00:48:46.040 --> 00:48:51.520 yeah it's like uh no 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.160 okay so I'm going to post this a few times you know what guys there's two 00:48:53.040 --> 00:48:58.319 things that come in conflict with this already hold on hold on hold on i'm going to go ahead i'm going to put the 00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:02.400 chat in slow mode temporarily that's probably just so that my uh my links 00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:07.040 don't get lost or covered in the floods of other links that aren't related to it 00:49:04.319 --> 00:49:10.800 um right okay guys remind me like tweet me or something remind me to uh to go 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:14.079 ahead and take it out of slow mode after yeah that's a good point we might 00:49:12.160 --> 00:49:18.000 definitely forget so there's two two slight problems with this already one 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:22.800 he's not going to be in like a CEO position that's true so that's that's a 00:49:21.520 --> 00:49:28.319 big difference especially when you're looking at a company because if he's not running the company his personal views 00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:32.640 probably wouldn't uh influence the company as strongly yeah so you've got 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:36.640 that situation no matter this is these these sides that I'm trying to bring in 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:41.200 are completely not related to the opinion it's just like differences in 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:46.240 the situation um and the other one is still ties into how publicly available 00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:49.760 that person is if you become the CEO of Mozilla everyone knows who you are 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:54.000 everyone's going to look into who you are uh it's it's like when the new guy 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:57.680 took over Microsoft y there was a massive thing of everyone like tearing 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.920 apart his entire history exactly and that's going to happen when you take 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:04.160 over a company that's not going to happen when you become an employee of a 00:50:02.640 --> 00:50:08.800 company unless you're someone like Carmarmac who joins Oculus and then 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:14.000 everyone's like yeah but even then I mean he's CTO if I recall correctly or 00:50:11.839 --> 00:50:18.559 science officer something like he's in an executive position yes he's extremely 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:25.040 high up so it's it's very different again what even is this oh okay that's 00:50:22.040 --> 00:50:26.880 annoying um yeah so there's there's just 00:50:25.040 --> 00:50:32.559 some differences to what we're looking at now okay well this is interesting 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:38.480 because on our forum a lot of the discussion has been around um sort of 00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:44.960 where one person's rights end and another person's begin and that that 00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:47.280 that to me is a very important part of 00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:54.880 this issue because a lot of the arguments being made are well okay what 00:50:50.160 --> 00:50:57.599 if he was um progay marriage then is it 00:50:54.880 --> 00:51:00.800 is it okay to persecute someone for that if that's not something that the other 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:06.400 people within the company believe like should we allow something that is 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:11.440 effectively still whether we agree with it or not still a religious freedom of 00:51:09.839 --> 00:51:17.280 freedom of religion freedom of free speech issue whether it should be or not 00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:20.720 um still happens to be that should we allow that to affect someone's 00:51:19.040 --> 00:51:25.760 employability any more than we should allow someone being gay for example to 00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:28.240 affect someone's employability it's it's interesting one thing that I want to 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:34.640 bring up before I even go into this which I'll get into that in a second is that I was very proud of the forum i 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:38.160 didn't have to take this thread down 13 pages and we didn't have to take it down 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:41.760 and there was there was each side of the debate and neither side of the debate 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:45.440 pulled out nuclear bombs which is good which is very good then we have to take 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:49.359 it away yeah and that happens sometimes but every everyone was really good in 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.599 this thread so thank you everybody for having a very civil discussion that was 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:58.559 awesome um but I don't I don't know i I like the 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.760 free speech angle i think we should stay out every everyone's thing and one thing 00:52:00.319 --> 00:52:07.040 that I couldn't find anywhere but this was in support of Proposition 8 I guess 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:11.119 so wasn't that a long time ago i think so yeah I think it was so 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:16.079 someone had to like dig back and find something that this guy did a long time 00:52:12.720 --> 00:52:18.160 ago and pressure him for it like that's 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:21.839 I don't know you'd think that acquiring a new 00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:27.200 position your actions would now be based on what you do now 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:33.599 but is it ever really as simple as being judged by our work no of course not 00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:38.800 i get messages all the time where people say they love to watch our content 00:52:36.160 --> 00:52:43.760 because they appreciate like what down to earth guys we are about whatever it 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:48.000 is that we're doing whether it's you know a CPU or whether it's even some of 00:52:46.640 --> 00:52:56.079 the commercial productions that we've done they say they watch it because they want to support us and they like us is 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:58.160 Mosilla handicapping themselves by 00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:03.440 putting someone who is as far as internet culture goes very unlike 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.599 likable in a leadership position so hold 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:09.040 on so hold that thought i want you to I want you to have that thought but I just 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:14.800 need a moment here so I created a new straw poll guys and this one is what if 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:18.119 the employee was in a leadership position and I'd like to see how the 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:24.800 answers compare here we go to if they were just 00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:26.400 an employee okay so my point was another 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:31.040 thing that has to be taken into account here is that Mozilla is an extremely 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:34.559 public company y they talk about everything they're doing and we don't 00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:37.760 mean public like publicly traded no like like open yeah and like they try to 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:42.640 bring in the community as much as possible and they they take donations 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.760 which is another big part of it so I've seen people I don't I didn't necessarily 00:53:44.319 --> 00:53:50.880 see this on the forum but I've seen people saying like is my donation part 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:54.079 of that amount of money that was donated to that because even if it's his 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:59.119 personal funds if he's being paid by Mosilla that you could make the argument 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:02.720 that if you don't support what the individuals 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:07.119 do yeah so that became an interesting thing 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:12.559 uh that got fairly shot down because a way bigger part of Mozilla's income is 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:16.880 like from Google because of Google search being the default not from 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:20.319 donations they don't make nearly as much on donations as a lot of people I think 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:24.559 think they do make a lot more off of that Google search um and like there's a 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:28.079 lot going back and forth because of that but when you're in a company like this 00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:32.079 every single move you have is scrutinized and like he probably should 00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:38.640 have known that but then again he wasn't CEO then so he probably didn't care all 00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:40.160 right let's go ahead and uh I can't find 00:54:38.640 --> 00:54:45.280 it there it is let's go ahead and have a look at the results for that one okay so 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:50.079 we can see that you guys are giving us very very different answers this time so 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:56.319 if the employees in a leadership position so just an employee so you know 00:54:53.440 --> 00:55:00.559 like if we were to hire someone that does something that I don't think is a 00:54:57.839 --> 00:55:06.640 good idea like say for example um I don't think smoking is a great idea as 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:08.240 an employer I'm not convened by allowing 00:55:06.640 --> 00:55:12.480 someone to take smoke breaks which I am legally obligated to allow them to do we 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.680 don't even have anyone that does i don't think we have one person who smokes 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:21.760 occasionally occasionally but not that often i'm just saying so so I as as as 00:55:19.839 --> 00:55:26.160 someone who's in a leadership position it seems like most of you agree that I 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:30.400 should not be allowed to discriminate based on something that I don't agree 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:34.480 with and I agree with you guys yeah I was just going to say but it looks like 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:40.400 the a huge number more of you about another 25% of you or more say that if 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:44.960 that person is in a leadership position whatever leadership means to you whether 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:49.680 that is the effect it has on the culture of the office or the company or whether 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:55.119 that is the external visibility of what they're doing that yes it matters and 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:58.720 that person should be pressured to leave to be completely honest I back that a 00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:02.160 little bit mhm i don't know if I back it 100% but I back it a little bit because 00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:06.160 like in this position you're now jeopardizing the entire company 00:56:04.720 --> 00:56:10.240 something that you've done you know I mean we've had conversations i mean you 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:14.640 guys don't see this on W show because we're not gonna have it out about things 00:56:12.799 --> 00:56:18.000 like the direction of Linus Media Group in front of you guys but we've had 00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:22.480 conversations where there's something you don't like or there's something you 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:27.040 don't agree with and or you or anyone else or anyone else like I like to feel 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:30.640 like I'm very approachable here and if someone doesn't like something they can 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:37.799 say "Linus that is a bloody stupid idea." you do and you do exercise that 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:43.040 that privilege not a right that privilege does get used and I think 00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:49.280 that's important and I think that me being in a position where I can be 00:56:45.640 --> 00:56:51.599 questioned and I want people to be on 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:57.680 the same page as me creates a culture here where we agree and we work together 00:56:54.880 --> 00:57:00.720 as opposed to feeling like if we're working with this person we are 00:56:59.359 --> 00:57:09.359 furthering something that we don't believe And I think that if we were to hire 00:57:05.520 --> 00:57:11.520 someone who doesn't fit with our culture 00:57:09.359 --> 00:57:14.400 that is a big problem whatever it happens to be i actually think that 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:17.119 that's one of the reason why we can be so productive is even if there's been 00:57:16.160 --> 00:57:22.880 certain things that we've done that I don't agree with i think there's been certain things that we've done that everyone in the company hasn't agreed 00:57:20.319 --> 00:57:27.839 with on some level um but we always find good compromises yep and we always find 00:57:25.040 --> 00:57:33.440 something that works really well but the problem is that to me the only 00:57:30.640 --> 00:57:40.000 compromise on the gay marriage issue Yeah is that's not that's not a Yeah 00:57:36.720 --> 00:57:41.280 ignore it yeah but that's not a problem 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:45.839 that we really then that's not a solution at all and neither party will 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:50.880 be happy at all and that's not that's not a compromise to me but then as a as 00:57:48.640 --> 00:57:56.000 a company your standing is probably going to have to be ignoring it right 00:57:52.640 --> 00:57:57.680 but if you rely on donations then you're 00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:02.400 in a different But then they don't Oh oh I see what you mean by ignoring it but 00:57:59.040 --> 00:58:03.920 then uh but then uh like it ties in 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:07.839 because they're not ignoring it at that point like maybe the I've sort of what I 00:58:06.319 --> 00:58:10.880 meant more was the solution to the problem at all i now figured like if we 00:58:09.680 --> 00:58:14.240 just let people do whatever they want and ignore what they're doing yeah i I I 00:58:12.720 --> 00:58:18.079 thought you meant more like the company ignoring it externally um because I 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:23.839 think as a company you need to kind of back off of these things because it's very personal opinion and your company 00:58:21.359 --> 00:58:28.240 is made up of a large group of people and speaking outward unless that's the 00:58:25.839 --> 00:58:32.640 whole goal of your company then that makes a lot more sense in my 00:58:30.359 --> 00:58:37.280 opinion it comes down to how you want to run everything like isn't it Chick-fil-A 00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:40.319 is really religious or whatever y but then you're going into that knowing that 00:58:38.799 --> 00:58:45.520 that's what you're getting a part of this problem too is uh Firefox is very 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:50.720 always been very very open and accepting of everything and then that position is 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:55.200 not open and accepting so then it goes against the companies more like what 00:58:52.720 --> 00:58:58.319 people envision the company as not necessarily what the company has said 00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:03.119 they are but what people envision the company as and what some like everyone 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.720 views these big companies as people yep 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:10.000 i think we even get viewed that way a lot and you know what honestly yeah i 00:59:07.680 --> 00:59:16.000 might create another straw pull for this because we don't take a public stance on 00:59:12.640 --> 00:59:18.079 almost anything no I don't I don't know 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:21.119 that we've ever taken a public stance on really anything unless it has to do with 00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:25.119 computer hardware yeah unless it has to do with computer hardware but my 00:59:23.040 --> 00:59:28.960 response to people when they've asked me you know what do you think about you 00:59:27.200 --> 00:59:33.680 know abortion or what do you think about this or what do you think about that is 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:38.720 look I'm a tech personality my personal life is my personal life and then when 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:43.839 I'm at work I talk about tech and it is my job to be opinionated about tech but 00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:49.520 it is not my job to be opinionated about all this stuff and the response um when 00:59:47.040 --> 00:59:55.119 people press me is look I'm not an expert I actually don't know the ins and 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:56.799 outs of a lot of these things and not 00:59:55.119 --> 01:00:01.200 enough don't know enough about any of them including me and I'm not uh you 00:59:59.200 --> 01:00:06.079 know I'm not personally acquainted with every person who's ever been afflicted 01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:12.160 with any of these um with any of these terrible situations that can occur on 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:13.680 either side of the fence so and and I'm 01:00:12.160 --> 01:00:18.680 not talking specifically about gay marriage i just mean in general we don't really take a stance on things that 01:00:16.240 --> 01:00:24.920 aren't technology so would you like us to is the is the 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:30.079 question no I'm gonna go vote on this you can 01:00:27.680 --> 01:00:35.559 vote on the straw poll you can vote on the straw pull this is an interesting 01:00:31.359 --> 01:00:35.559 discussion topic yep 01:00:36.240 --> 01:00:40.799 i'm definitely clicking no though because that's just scary oh my god it's 01:00:39.359 --> 01:00:45.040 not in slow mode i'm turning slow mode back on i'm turning slow mode back on no 01:00:42.799 --> 01:00:49.440 okay so guys here's the link slow mode is back on i'm spamming the link so that 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:53.520 y'all can y'all can see it there and for those of you replying in the Twitch chat 01:00:51.200 --> 01:00:57.200 guys I'm not looking at that it doesn't count you have to reply to the straw 01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:01.359 pole how is it how are we supposed like at all how are we supposed to do things 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:04.960 here all right so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic while we wait 01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:12.400 for the replies to roll in on that one which happens to be technology 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:15.280 i forgot to update this with all the 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:18.400 points NVIDIA Shield temporarily wait did we talk about this last week i 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:23.680 thought we talked about this last week i'm sure we did i was something else oh 01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:26.960 I was going to talk about it ah so game stream working remotely i was going to 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:31.440 try it i This happens with some of your topics sometimes you're just like "What 01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:35.839 i don't know what this is about." I know i know i know i know okay so I meant to 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:39.200 try remote game stream i haven't had a chance yet okay i've been too busy 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:42.880 playing uh Bravely Default i'll try this weekend my problem is finding places 01:01:40.720 --> 01:01:46.880 that like cuz my parents have a crappy internet connection cuz we're like 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:53.599 borderline Farmville all right so speaking of me taking a stance on 01:01:50.319 --> 01:01:55.119 technology junk boom stance being taken 01:01:53.599 --> 01:02:03.359 i didn't even know I was clicking on this link because it was mislabeled 01:01:57.720 --> 01:02:07.640 this is a stupid solution okay this is 01:02:03.359 --> 01:02:11.200 USB 3.1 type-C and I will give them 01:02:07.640 --> 01:02:12.880 this like this is this is not finalized 01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:18.720 but it's final enough that they're willing to show renders now and I will 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:22.559 give them this USB 3.1 type-C is very 01:02:18.720 --> 01:02:25.839 beautiful it's very elegant it is even 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:28.079 smaller than MicroB and is going to give 01:02:25.839 --> 01:02:32.000 you up to 10 Gbit per second connectivity wait wait for 01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:35.119 Congratulations everything he's doing right now is when you're like walking up 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:40.319 to the guy in a dining hall and you're hiding the knife and you're trying to like shake his hand so you can stab him 01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:43.599 in the ribs that go right so you can get to the heart that's what he's he's 01:02:41.839 --> 01:02:49.359 carefully walking to the person right now now he's going to stab them what the 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:57.680 hell were you thinking it still doesn't lock it's still tiny and fragile i mean 01:02:55.359 --> 01:03:03.040 I don't like the lightning connector it's not perfect it's still USB 2 i mean 01:03:00.240 --> 01:03:09.040 come on really Apple it's still USB 2 but at least it managed to be less 01:03:06.040 --> 01:03:11.839 fragile than the probably the worst 01:03:09.040 --> 01:03:18.319 connector on anything any modern piece of electronics which is micro USB we're 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:20.480 talking about something that goes beyond 01:03:18.319 --> 01:03:26.079 just you know plugging it in on your nightstand every night because cell 01:03:22.359 --> 01:03:27.680 phones they don't last all day so a lot 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:31.440 of the time if you look at it and you go okay this connector is rated for I 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:35.039 forget how many it is i think it's like 3,000 or 5,000 or something like that i 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:39.920 think it's 10,000 no I don't know about the new one but micro USB micro USB 2 is 01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:44.559 rated for 3,000 or 5,000 or 8,000 or something like that something on the 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:47.280 order of like not tens of thousands so 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:52.400 we're talking like a perfect scenario where 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:55.359 like this happens and then you like put 01:03:52.400 --> 01:04:01.280 it down okay that's not how these things get used you carry this every day you're 01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:05.440 carrying portable battery banks how popular are those these days you carry 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:08.960 portable battery banks around and you kind of go "Oh crap I'm down to 5% 01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:13.280 battery." And you jam the thing in there and you're like "Oh what am I going to do with this i have to be on a call." So 01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:16.960 you put like a portable battery in your shirt pocket and you got your phone here 01:04:14.799 --> 01:04:21.039 and the connectors hanging off of it that is why small connectors are 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:26.480 terrible and that is why we needed something more robust not just something 01:04:23.680 --> 01:04:31.280 that is reversible and there's a there's a render of it on a laptop or something 01:04:28.319 --> 01:04:36.640 like that and I hope that wireless charging is going to save me from these 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:39.920 broken connectors that are stupid but there you go there's a render of what it 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:46.480 looks like next to a USB3 connector maybe I'm wrong maybe it's the smartest 01:04:43.359 --> 01:04:49.280 thing ever and it's amazing but every 01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:54.799 tiny connector with a ton of pins that's super thin that I've seen so far looking 01:04:51.200 --> 01:04:57.839 at you mini HDMI is a gigantic piece of 01:04:54.799 --> 01:05:00.440 garbage that weighs out weighs out wears 01:04:57.839 --> 01:05:08.000 out extremely easily so reversible great not that big of a 01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:11.359 deal on a micro connector what am I going to Are we going to Are we going to 01:05:09.520 --> 01:05:14.960 replace all the connectors on the back of my computer with these with these 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:19.760 micro connectors is that going to be better having tiny tiny plugs okay like 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:24.559 at least I could find it with my finger how hard is it 01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:26.480 to how hard is it to memorize which way 01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:30.160 the micro USB connector in your phone goes on and put a dot with a marker on 01:05:28.799 --> 01:05:34.160 the one that goes up or something like that like this this is not that big of a 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:38.079 deal reversible i I think reversible is great i think that is one of the cooler 01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:42.640 innovations of the lightning connector but I think that having reversible at 01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:46.640 the cost of durability which is another assumption I can't quite judge it until 01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:52.640 it arrives until I hold it in my hands and break one because I will in all 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:54.079 likelihood look at it um I'm done here 01:05:52.640 --> 01:06:00.960 let's talk about my next We should do a video when they first release we should do like Lionus kills 01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:06.880 all the time and have like a like a like a deep dark torture scene where you just 01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:10.400 kill a cable that's kind of creepy actually it would 01:06:08.799 --> 01:06:13.839 be kind of awesome probably cuz you could make it like deep dark torture 01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:21.559 scene but then also funny so that it loses the edge now I wouldn't actually 01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:24.400 care that much about micro USB if 01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:29.680 um you know if wireless charging were more ubiquitous and this this is what 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:33.039 kind of blew me away did Did you find some of the comments i was I did I ended 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:39.200 up searching okay i don't remember where they are but if wireless charging was 01:06:36.319 --> 01:06:45.440 more widespread I actually wouldn't care because if I only had to plug it in once 01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:47.280 every I don't know couple of months when 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:50.319 I'm trying to load a custom ROM on the phone or something like if that was the 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:54.559 only time I ever had to use the connector fine make it as tiny and 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:57.839 fragile as possible i don't care because I'm going to be offloading all of my 01:06:56.079 --> 01:07:02.400 pictures automatically with Bit Torrent sync anyway i'm gonna be syncing all of 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:05.760 my songs with some other solution well probably Bit Torrent bit Torrent syncs 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:09.039 awesome yeah so I'm gonna be doing all of this wirelessly anyway give me 01:07:07.359 --> 01:07:12.880 wireless charging so I don't have to worry about it and and this is this is 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:17.119 what blew me away because I've already had a conversation i already told HTC 01:07:15.200 --> 01:07:21.119 that I will be slamming the fact that the M8 doesn't have wireless charging in 01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:24.480 my review because it can it's not the metal backing it's not really anything 01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:27.760 they might have to make it a hair thicker or whatever else but it could 01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:32.319 have had wireless charging maybe it would have been more expensive to make all all that stuff but I already told 01:07:30.799 --> 01:07:37.359 them I'm going to be slamming it and their response was "Does it really 01:07:34.839 --> 01:07:41.119 matter?" And I was like "Well yeah of course it matters." And he kind of went 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:44.799 "Well I I don't know does it i mean lots of other major players don't have it 01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:49.760 yet." And I'm like "Well yeah but if you're going to call it a Cadillac 01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:53.920 ultimate you wonderful device phone and it really is it's a fantastic phone then 01:07:52.319 --> 01:07:59.039 it shouldn't be missing something that phones that cost half as much have." And 01:07:56.400 --> 01:08:03.640 then I read the comments on this USB article and I've got people just being 01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:10.160 like "Well isn't wireless charging slow?" I'm like "Wireless charging will 01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:13.520 not replace a cable connection." I'm like "Okay that has for someone in this 01:08:11.839 --> 01:08:17.279 office already." Yeah I know that for a fact um where where are some of the 01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:21.120 other ones it's it's really long comment section look how look where your scroll 01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:25.279 bar is that's why I couldn't find stuff very quickly the issue is not the speed 01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:32.159 but that it creates more heat loss and that's bad for this or that and I had no 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:38.319 idea that there was so much negative sentiment towards wireless charging and 01:08:34.080 --> 01:08:39.920 I understand HTC's PR guys or it does 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:44.000 social media for them I think so not PR technically but I understand his 01:08:41.679 --> 01:08:47.799 perspective now because here I am thinking it's obvious that wireless 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:52.239 charging is fantastic and many people are opposed to 01:08:50.799 --> 01:08:56.880 I don't get the people being like "Oh but cables are so much better." It's 01:08:54.400 --> 01:09:02.480 like "Yeah well you can use both." Like Ethernet is amazingly better than 01:08:59.799 --> 01:09:05.440 wireless but you like both of them because they both are better in 01:09:03.839 --> 01:09:10.000 different situations obviously that's not exactly the same because for wireless charging you have to put it on 01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:13.040 a block or whatever but if you can just like toss your phone somewhere and have 01:09:11.679 --> 01:09:16.560 it charging immediately instead of fighting with a cable all the time is 01:09:14.799 --> 01:09:20.400 that not a good thing we have someone in the office that I don't think has 01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:23.920 plugged in his phone since he got it because why would he he just has these 01:09:22.400 --> 01:09:27.600 wireless charging pads everywhere like $25 on eBay so he just puts them all 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:31.040 over the place and then he's like "Oh click 01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:34.400 whatever." Puts it puts wherever he has one down in the shoot this is Brandon he 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:39.520 has one down in the shooting area one at his desk and one at home and it's like 01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:44.239 whenever he sits down at his desk boop whenever he's filming boop his phone's 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:48.400 never even close to being dead but I just had no idea that people 01:09:46.480 --> 01:09:52.239 thought it was bad and to the people saying you know what about the heat what 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:58.360 about that it's slow it's not like it doesn't have a connector on it still 01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.360 don't use it 01:09:58.719 --> 01:10:06.640 or or I love our compressor i didn't even peek it's fantastic you like peaked 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:10.320 in real life yeah I know i was like shrieking and I'm sorry for that yeah 01:10:08.320 --> 01:10:14.400 whatever all right let's go back to our uh let's go back to our straw poll this 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:21.440 is interesting so I always had a feeling this was the case only less than 30% of 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:24.880 you want us to take a public stance on anything that isn't technology and you 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:29.600 know what that sounds about right to me and that's that's I don't want us to take a public stance on anything that 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:34.400 isn't technology that's the reason that I've always just completely avoided 01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:38.800 engaging in any type of conversation on that stuff because the way that I see it 01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:43.120 we should form opinions about the things that we are experts on and and not not 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:47.600 even that but in that kind of stuff it's a lot more personal opinion based stuff 01:10:45.280 --> 01:10:50.560 and we can give them information and then they can come up with their own 01:10:49.120 --> 01:10:55.840 opinion and that's how it should work anyways and I guess if someone you know 01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:58.000 dug up my thousand contribution to the 01:10:55.840 --> 01:11:01.360 you know End Kittens Foundation or something like that and was unhappy 01:10:59.280 --> 01:11:06.040 about it then I see you picked like the the most opposite thing as to what you 01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:10.640 would ever do i love kittens and that's but this is an 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:14.960 example of me avoiding giving really I don't think it's really funny because I 01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:21.120 don't think anyone has any idea what I think about much of anything um I like 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:25.280 I've I've seen people I've I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how 01:11:23.360 --> 01:11:30.159 religious I am and I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:32.640 anti-religious I am so that's to me the 01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:36.719 indication that people just have no idea i've never heard you say a religious 01:11:34.080 --> 01:11:40.719 comment on a show at any point in time ever so how would someone come up with 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:44.480 that i don't talk about it at all um so I think this this reinforces Oh I'm not 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:47.760 even showing them the poll results okay well this reinforces what I thought and 01:11:46.719 --> 01:11:52.640 that's that we just shouldn't get involved in things so oh right so if someone digs up like a contribution then 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:58.239 I guess I would have to deal with the fallout and I guess if we lost viewers 01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:59.920 over it or you know lost people wanting 01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:03.760 to support what we're doing over it then that would be that but ultimately I 01:12:02.080 --> 01:12:07.440 think that what we do should be about the work that we do and if you guys want 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:12.159 to support what we're doing in terms of reviewing notebooks or I actually have 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:14.960 Oh I have a really cool topic coming up soon that I don't want to talk about 01:12:13.280 --> 01:12:18.320 because I'm sure someone else would make a video about it people were like "It's 01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:23.440 going to be a short show." I know right nope no no short um anyway I think we're 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:29.280 done with that the the people have spoken they don't want to know what I think and that's fine by me i completely 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:33.440 agree um we weren't going to start doing it 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:38.320 anyway even if you didn't matter just so you know 01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:40.560 oh uh Amazon Dash do you know anything 01:12:38.320 --> 01:12:46.880 about this cuz I think this was added like during the show by by Dominic so 01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:48.320 yeah uh I think that was added by me and 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:56.480 then I did none of the notes because I didn't have any time so he did all All right let's talk about Amazon Fire TV 01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:58.320 then so this is Amazon's entry into the 01:12:56.480 --> 01:13:01.040 very Oh Fire TV i thought you were talking about Dash no I thought you just 01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:07.040 said Dash yeah I don't know anything about Dash though i I didn't look into it i I hadn't seen the topic so okay I'm 01:13:05.360 --> 01:13:13.199 gonna talk about Fire TV since I know something about that so Fire TV is their 01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:17.040 $99 set top box available now and the 01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:19.360 reviews are pretty much already in it is 01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:25.840 a streaming device so it supports uh you know Hulu Netflix Amazon's video 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:31.000 streaming service of course it is a relatively powerful device so it has a 01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:35.920 quad-core processor and 2 gigs of RAM at $99.99 no less mind you I would make the 01:13:34.480 --> 01:13:40.080 argument that something like an NVIDIA Shield makes a ton of sense for twice 01:13:37.679 --> 01:13:45.199 the price given that it is also portable yep just throwing that out there it has 01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:51.120 wireless N it has support for Oh yeah in addition to what I already said it has 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:53.679 support for Vimeo MLB.tv and NBA um it 01:13:51.120 --> 01:13:58.239 is probably according to user reviews it looks like it is pretty much the best 01:13:55.679 --> 01:14:03.520 solution hands down for Amazon's own instant video streaming service i would 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:06.480 hope so but much like every other 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:11.840 streaming device on the market and holy cow are there a lot of them it lacks a 01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:15.280 certain level of polish at launch and a certain level of integration with 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:19.199 popular apps that people are using so one of the big features that they're 01:14:16.719 --> 01:14:23.679 talking about here is the voice control that you can use to search for content 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:29.920 and play it back voice control that only works within Amazon's library 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:33.280 but the word on the street is that it's 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:35.120 actually at Netflix's own request that 01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:40.239 their voice control is not searching Netflix's own library and that's kind of 01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:45.360 weird to me um one of the other things that Amazon So so right now whatever the 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:48.719 reason is that feature is not necessarily it's kind of halfbaked and 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:54.719 then the other thing that's supposed to be really cool about it is it's supposed to help you do all of your comparative 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:59.040 shopping without you having to actually look up each of the individual services 01:14:56.719 --> 01:15:02.800 so if you want to watch something then you search for it and it should tell you 01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:05.840 where you can watch it for cheapest you know what's getting frustrating i I 01:15:04.400 --> 01:15:08.800 don't see this on the supported list here and as far as I know there could 01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:15.440 have been an update or something but as far as I know it doesn't work on uh 01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:19.520 Chcast either but Twitch where's Twitch 01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:21.360 twitch is not on the radar for like 01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:26.960 executives who don't understand streaming twitch needs to push and get 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:29.679 themselves on the radar do they i want 01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:34.480 them to be on the radar i mean okay because right now it's like the only 01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:40.040 thing I really watch on my TV is they have an iOS app they have an Android app 01:15:37.440 --> 01:15:45.600 okay so they made those themselves yes so anything running on a platform 01:15:43.440 --> 01:15:50.320 like iOS or Android which let's face it is lots of stuff 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.000 with the exception of things like Apple TV which it still baffles me can't 01:15:51.840 --> 01:16:00.640 install apps anyway 01:15:55.640 --> 01:16:02.400 um doesn't that take care of most people 01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:06.880 yes and no because a lot of the people that are going to be buying chcasts are 01:16:04.719 --> 01:16:11.199 going to be fairly technical but they could just push from their Android or 01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:14.400 their browser it's not as good though yeah I know it's not like nearly as good 01:16:13.280 --> 01:16:18.640 you need to be able to actually work with the chcast screen streaming is not 01:16:16.719 --> 01:16:24.560 nearly as strong as just pushing through the app i don't like Come on i want this to 01:16:22.719 --> 01:16:29.840 work someone someone might be proving me wrong maybe there's an update for chcast 01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:32.800 as of now twitch works with XBMC yeah 01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:37.040 okay that's not XBMC is kind of a big deal though xbmc runs on some of these 01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:41.920 other devices within their own operating systems like for example Pivos's uh 01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:45.440 streamers you can run XBMC either natively right on the device or you can 01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:49.600 run it as an app within Android personally the only one I really care about this might even sound kind of bad 01:16:48.320 --> 01:16:54.520 but the only one I really care about is Chcast though because I'm not interested in really playing Android games on my TV 01:16:53.040 --> 01:17:01.040 and if I am I'm just going to use my Shield um because that makes sense and 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:05.520 the Chcast is 35 bucks it's so hard to compete with it's 01:17:02.679 --> 01:17:10.560 $35 like it's super cheap and you get free shipping from Amazon so it's like 01:17:07.280 --> 01:17:13.760 it's actually just 35 bucks so back to 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:16.000 back to Amazon speaking of Amazon um 01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:20.640 they are they are touting it as a gaming platform as well and you can get a game 01:17:18.320 --> 01:17:24.080 pad for $39.99 although and I haven't verified this one of the reviews seems 01:17:22.719 --> 01:17:28.880 to indicate that you can't use third party game pads with it which is a 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:34.960 disaster it should just work with any Bluetooth game pad because by the time I 01:17:31.120 --> 01:17:37.360 buy this for $99.99 plus a $40 game pad 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:40.640 I could pick up a Shield for $200 use any old Bluetooth controller and I've 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:46.719 paid maybe a hundred bucks for something that is runs on batteries is much more 01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:48.800 flexible and as in like console mode is 01:17:46.719 --> 01:17:53.120 actually pretty usable with a powered USB hub which you can get on Amazon for 01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:58.000 like eight bucks and an onthe-go connector I was able to set it up so 01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:01.880 that my Shield can be perpetually powered and perpetually have all my 01:17:59.679 --> 01:18:06.719 peripherals plugged into it yay fantastic like it just kind of works 01:18:04.719 --> 01:18:10.880 i know I pimp Shield a lot but it really is a fantastic device i'm excited for 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:16.320 the second one i'm super excited for whatever Shield 2 ends up being i'm 01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:18.159 still not sold on the way you hold it 01:18:16.320 --> 01:18:21.920 okay fair enough your hands are not the same as my hands yeah and like but and 01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:26.239 like that could change and number two or it can't and I'll just get used to it i 01:18:24.719 --> 01:18:31.199 don't know it's fine and one thing that's uh that I'm not super sold on as 01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:34.480 well is a lot of games for Android this is not on the game streaming front but 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:37.120 the Android gaming front are not designed to be able to control with the 01:18:36.080 --> 01:18:42.800 controller no but they do have the remapping yeah but a lot of them like you have to 01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:47.600 tap on the screen really quickly you need the screen tapping ability i don't 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.760 care because I haven't really found any 01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:54.320 Android games that light my light my fire so to speak i' Yeah yeah I found a 01:18:53.040 --> 01:18:59.600 few but like I ended up playing through one and I found myself holding the shield in the weirdest way possible 01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:04.719 because I had to hold the screen of the shield like a phone yeah I know to be 01:19:02.400 --> 01:19:08.480 able to So I was like this is really weird that's really awkward and I made 01:19:06.480 --> 01:19:12.560 it work but it was like okay this is weird i mean for me it's one of those 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:17.600 things where 95% of what I do on Shield is watching videos or using Gamestream 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:20.719 yeah and then and then and it's a great device for that but then that brings 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:24.480 back the point that I was talking about where I I don't really understand or 01:19:22.719 --> 01:19:28.960 agree with the fact that it has all this Android Android in it and then all of 01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:32.159 the stuff that has to be in there like the hardware to support Android they 01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:37.040 could have made a way cheaper device that just supports Gamestream but 01:19:34.120 --> 01:19:42.640 then who cares it's now only 200 bucks anyways yeah 200 bucks is very 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:46.000 reasonable for it okay so let's get into 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:48.800 um not game stream but uh game streaming 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:52.159 technologies in general um laptop conversation yeah yeah whether the game 01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:55.679 or is there anything else that we're missing that we There's just Dash but I 01:19:54.400 --> 01:20:01.199 don't know if anyone really cares yeah whatever okay so is the gaming laptop 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:09.040 dead i did a review this week of the MSI GS60 and gaming laptops have come so far 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:12.080 contrasting that with my GX 660 I think 01:20:09.040 --> 01:20:14.719 is the model um MSI gaming laptop so I I 01:20:12.080 --> 01:20:20.320 was able to look like snapshot MSI three years ago gaming laptop MSI today gaming 01:20:17.120 --> 01:20:22.800 laptop the old one ran hotter way hotter 01:20:20.320 --> 01:20:28.640 was much slower was like twice the overall thickness looked stupid as all 01:20:25.040 --> 01:20:31.360 hell and the new one is this slim sexy 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:38.880 cool running design with better battery life um and just is better display is 01:20:35.120 --> 01:20:41.679 better in every possible way and I ran a 01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:47.120 game on it to test NVIDIA's new battery saving feature for mobile GPUs that what 01:20:44.080 --> 01:20:50.080 it does is it limits your frame rate so 01:20:47.120 --> 01:20:54.159 if your notebook is on battery and it's still powerful enough to run a game at a 01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:58.239 you 60 frames per second and you kind of go "Well no hold on a second i'd rather 01:20:55.840 --> 01:21:03.840 have longer battery life and turn down my GPU and I'm okay with 30 frames per 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:08.480 second to get more battery life sorry blasphemous blasph i know right but if 01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:12.560 you did okay well okay how I'll give you a different example if it runs at 120 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:17.360 frames per second and your display is only 60 hertz then whatever you might as 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:21.520 well turn it down so you can you can save that extra battery life and NVIDIA 01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:27.040 is claiming up to 2x improvements in battery life by using this feature so I 01:21:24.320 --> 01:21:31.679 set to work trying out the feature and I ran with it on and then I ran without it 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:34.480 on and not only did I only get about 2 minutes of extra battery life which is 01:21:33.040 --> 01:21:40.400 within margin of error at that point pretty much um but I only got less than 01:21:38.320 --> 01:21:43.520 an hour of battery life out of both of them so I kind of looked at it and I 01:21:42.080 --> 01:21:49.679 went well hold on a second i mean what is a gaming laptop a gaming laptop to me 01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:52.960 is a portable machine that is capable of 01:21:49.679 --> 01:21:55.280 gaming but suffers from battery life 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:59.280 that is just abysmal when you're actually trying to use it for gaming 01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:04.800 could they make a gaming laptop that has the power the hardware of the GS60 and 01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:09.520 like doubles the size and just fills it with battery i guess so but the battery 01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:14.239 technology hasn't gotten to the point yet where we'd be able to charge that 01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:18.320 laptop in a reasonable amount of time even battery technology is lagging 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:25.040 behind like everything by a lot and it's holding things back and then I realized 01:22:21.320 --> 01:22:28.560 something do I need a powerful GPU in my 01:22:25.040 --> 01:22:31.040 laptop anymore because with game stream 01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:36.400 you can use a hardwarebased decoder that's already in your onboard graphics 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:40.880 and when you're at home you can stream that game to 01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:42.480 yourself with low enough latency that 01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:46.239 with my last experience with it although I haven't gone wireless yet I actually 01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:50.800 just bought Where is it don't want to step on that again i actually just 01:22:48.400 --> 01:22:57.600 bought an AC wireless card for my for my Ultrabook so that I can um try Steam in 01:22:54.000 --> 01:23:00.960 home streaming with AC um but if I can 01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:02.960 stream the games to myself at home do I 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:07.920 need it that badly when I'm on the go and if I'm on the go what are the odds 01:23:05.120 --> 01:23:11.760 I'll be somewhere where I can get a hardline connection and I can stream it 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:16.239 to myself remotely because I know we haven't tried remote streaming for 01:23:13.440 --> 01:23:22.199 Shield yet neither of us have no but I've tried Grid Beta yeah which is far 01:23:18.480 --> 01:23:25.199 enough away that 01:23:22.199 --> 01:23:25.199 it's 01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:33.360 surprising down when you're doing that they're saying you want five megabit up 01:23:30.719 --> 01:23:38.400 and down both ways there's a lot of situations maybe not you so maybe you 01:23:36.639 --> 01:23:41.920 don't need one but I think there's a lot of situations where now personally I've 01:23:40.320 --> 01:23:45.440 never bought a gaming laptop yeah exactly but I like But I've never been 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:49.040 interested in gaming laptops that's not because I could replace it before for 01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:52.239 it's cuz I just was I hated that experience and was just like nope uh but 01:23:51.120 --> 01:23:56.000 everyone that I know that would buy a gaming laptop or has bought a gaming 01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:59.280 laptop would still buy one because they're a lot of the places that they're 01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:03.280 using it they're not able to get that 5 megabit connection fair enough maybe in 01:24:01.679 --> 01:24:08.360 certain city hubs and stuff like that you're able to get it a lot of times but I noticed a lot of school connections 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:11.040 they're going to throttle individual connections totally fuar you're not 01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:16.320 going to be able to get it when you're at school um a lot of the time you're not going to be able to get it when 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:22.480 you're at the coffee shop um all these kind of things so you still want So you 01:24:19.440 --> 01:24:24.880 want to be able to game when you only 01:24:22.480 --> 01:24:27.760 have power because ultimately it's not like you can game on the thing when you 01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:32.560 don't have a power outlet i mean 40 minutes is that you can't even play a round of League of Legends necessarily 01:24:30.639 --> 01:24:36.960 in 40 minutes no and I've actually seen people have problems with that um but it 01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:40.000 it's I find it easier to get a power connection than it is to get internet 01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:45.280 connection and like say you're in a car and you're going on a road trip this is not as common as the other scenarios I 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:51.040 was giving you but if you're chilling in the back of the car on a road trip it is potential that you could trickle off of 01:24:48.320 --> 01:24:54.000 the car yeah you can yeah absolutely and you're not going to be able to get get a 01:24:52.639 --> 01:24:58.159 couple hours out of it or whatever yeah and you're going to be moving too quickly that you're probably going to 01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:02.080 get a craptastic mobile connection if one at all terrible yeah so like there I 01:25:00.719 --> 01:25:07.199 think there's still situations for it but then everything that I just laid out 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:13.600 is things that are going to be again not me and and probably not you and things 01:25:10.080 --> 01:25:16.239 that are going to probably very soon no 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:18.639 longer be problems right um whether it's the the school scenarios that I was 01:25:17.679 --> 01:25:23.600 talking about where those connections are probably just going to get faster as they have been and then that's not going 01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:26.719 to matter or if it comes down to the the car scenario that I talked about where 01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:30.719 Korea is already working on that creating that insane mobile wireless 01:25:29.280 --> 01:25:34.639 standard which will make it so you could be moving as fast as a bullet train and 01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:39.520 it won't even matter so at one point in time in the hopefully not super long 01:25:37.120 --> 01:25:43.040 future all of my holdbacks are not going to matter but as of right now I I can 01:25:41.280 --> 01:25:47.760 still see the merits i never see myself gaming on the go and when I'm at home 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:53.280 like even if I'm at home like I'm on the couch or whatever I don't feel like going and getting my charger no would I 01:25:51.280 --> 01:25:58.400 use Steam in Home Streaming or would I play natively on the device the heat 01:25:55.440 --> 01:26:04.480 output when you're playing on it and the additional battery life that you can get 01:26:00.080 --> 01:26:06.719 by streaming using this instead of a GPU 01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:11.199 is tangible in your house definitely for sure i I definitely agree with that and 01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:12.560 like honestly you said um on the run 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:19.639 like even if you're going to game and all that kind of stuff and even in your house uh 01:26:16.120 --> 01:26:22.800 2DS it's cheap as all crap i can play it 01:26:19.639 --> 01:26:24.440 anywhere um Austin Evans is video 01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:31.440 calling me should I just like Should I just take it sure is there 01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:34.320 like 10 billion people apparently it was 01:26:31.440 --> 01:26:37.920 probably a misclick man i'll be like "Sup." 01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:41.440 It was probably a misclick he probably just tried to video call like everyone 01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:46.800 on his contacts because that's a lot of people kind of is anyway I think we're 01:26:44.639 --> 01:26:53.520 pretty much done with the show for today um this was fantastic for me anyway i 01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:56.000 hope it was as good for you 01:26:53.520 --> 01:27:00.960 but um that awkward moment after 01:26:58.639 --> 01:27:04.400 on that disturbing note peace out guys thank you for tuning in we're sorry we 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:07.760 were late once again we will have the for those of you who didn't catch the 01:27:05.679 --> 01:27:14.340 entire show we will have the archive up fairly shortly and I think that's pretty 01:27:10.400 --> 01:27:20.239 much it bye guys bye everyone 01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:43.639 apparently miss 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:54.440 i love how you know that you're talking and the mic is on and you still do it 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:54.440 you do it too well I'm quiet