and like that's not really doing all right so those of you who are just
joining us now uh we're live those of
you who were here before well we're live but the show is kind of starting over so
just bear with us for a couple minutes here while we go through our headline
topics for the day and all of that other good stuff so Yahoo is allegedly making
their own YouTube something that we kind of talked about mostly already so we're
not going to get into too much depth with it the
R9295 allegedly rumored has been leaked
that is AMD's upcoming dual GPU graphics card allegedly allegedly allegedly uh
we've also got some other interesting stuff this week so Mozilla CEO has
resigned over an anti-gay marriage
controversy something that I would like for us to try to take a balanced
approach to rather than take one side or the other it's definitely something
that's a hot topic right now there's about a 13page thread on the Linus Tech
Tips forum about it and then something I really wanted to talk about it's just
that's an observation of mine is whether or not the gaming laptop is dead as a
product category so without further ado let's go ahead and get a quick you know
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as well so let's jump into our first topic and we're going to blitz through
this one pretty quick since some of you have probably already seen it and that
is that Yahoo is rumored to be working on their own YouTube i don't think
they're going to call it Yahoo Tube yat yat yat
yat is kind of like it's like even more casual than YouTube yeah yeah y i'm just
gonna go watch on Y yeah y okay anyway
um I I think either the Nordics or the
uh you know who else would like it maybe the Jamaicans would like it it's like
targeted at these particular regions
it's like we're going to go after the Jamaican and Nordic market it's
brilliant genius absolutely genius um so
the rumor the word on the street and the original article that oh this was posted
on the forum by no tech and um so the
article that we were looking at from Guardian LV is says that Yahoo's CEO
Marissa Mayor allegedly has been contacting YouTube content providers
star talents and network channels with the promise of more money if they switch
to the Yahoo service mind you to me the
big challenge is of course the chicken and egg you can't have an audience
without content creators you can't incentivize content creators unless you
have a ginormous audience that you can drive traffic to their content with and
I don't know if their approach of going after the premium content creators is
necessarily right because that's part of what made YouTube so big and so hard to
beat by competing well I mean Vimeo doesn't even really try to compete with them but that's what makes them so hard
to surpass in terms of size by other
video sharing services is the fact that they have this enormous mainstream
appeal so you could take all the music videos all the Vivos of the world and
move them over to Yahoo but then you've just basically turned yourself into a
video streaming service unless you also have that community and if you create a
community interaction model then it might go all Google+ on you and blow up
in your face anyway and like if they if they try to buy people out and make it
so they can't post on YouTube that would bring content over that you'd want to watch there but then that's really
aggressive and is going to create some really awkward situations and if you
don't do that people are just probably going to want to watch it on YouTube
instead of YouTube anyways so I mean from my perspective actually this is
something I didn't cover before so as a content creator what does Yahoo have to
overcome to appeal to me just going to move the mic a little bit closer here i
see a couple people saying the audio is a bit low it's not adjustable that probably
sounded great whatever okay so what do they have to overcome number
one is that even though YouTube takes
45% right off the top of the advertising
revenue that's generated by something like a True View instream ad before a
video plays what YouTube is able to do
is probably about I'd say double to triple my
overall viewership by driving new
viewers to old videos so when you look
at a new video that we upload within the first let's say week that's probably
unless it's something that really has legs in the long term something like our
Xbox 3 or Xbox One versus PS4 image
quality comparison unless it's something people are really going to be looking
for in the longer term that's about 90%
of what that video is ever going to get in terms of views yeah what YouTube does
is it takes that video and drives people
to it in the background compared to you
know just us blasting it out to our subscribers now YouTube makes a lot of
mistakes they don't send our videos to all of our subscribers there's a lot of
stuff with the YouTube model but they
kind of make up for it by
keeping our content as prolific as possible and spreading it out so that
even older content that we're not focused on anymore is still maybe making
us two cents that day from the 40 people
who watched it which adds up when you have 2,000 videos uploaded to the
platform so if Yahoo's approach is going to be trying to get exclusivity deals
with premium content creators without
necessarily a plan for having that huge mass of viewers like on YouTube I I'm
going to I'm going to go find something that's like like an ancient motherboard
unboxing or something youtube has so
much reach that even super old videos So
motherboard unboxing let's try to find that even super old videos can generate
revenue for you um so I I guess you know what's
interesting is the I've I've been subscribed to our own channel on my
private YouTube just so I know what we're releasing because a lot of the
times I just don't film or work on something and then
finish it and then it's like oh all right we'll see when that comes out I
guess um so I subscribe to our own channel so I know what's even going on
because people will talk to me about things that have released and I'll
they'll be like in your most recent video blah blah blah and I'll be like I
have no idea what you're talking about uh so yeah subscribe to our own channel
the only thing that I get in my subscription feed is the WAN Show right
i don't get anything else i have to go to the channel directly to get anything
else in my subscription so on the flip side here's a motherboard unboxing from
August 2011 here actually I can screen share here from August 2011 that has got
a couple views you know let's say one view per day over the last month like
how how is that even possible does anyone care about the Sniper 2Z68 board
so without having that mainstream appeal
you uh Yahoo Tube may suffer y Y if they
call it Yub we want to cut we want to cut 10% cut that's the Linus Media Group
cut that's the Linus Media Group cut 10% cut that's all we ask it's actually very
reasonable it is y y
terrible i love it all right let's move into our next headline topic we're going
to try and compress the show a little bit because we started so late we're really sorry for that guys uh we are on
a brand new dedicated line for the show
so there you go all right uh over to my
screen boom leaked this is allegedly and I can
neither confirm nor deny a picture of the R9295X2
AMD's rumored upcoming rumored to be
dual GPU graphics card with what is rumored to be 8 gigs of GDDDR5 memory is
rumored to have a radiator attached to
it rumored rumored allegedly now we've seen implementations like this before
with lowprofile like um you know guys
like Coolit or Asetch make these things lowprofile pump block combo units on
each GPU and then a fan to take care of
cooling the rest of the components the memory the VRM and all of that good
stuff but this would be the first time that we've seen a I mean it's going to
be pretty niche but this would be the first time that we've seen a mass-
prodduced product implement something like this right out of the box i mean
it's happened yeah guys like Sapphire have done this kind of stuff was like
here's a liquid cooled graphics card out of the box and Yeah yeah but this is the
first time we've seen a reference design that's what I was Yeah I was going to
say there's actually been like a few but not reference ones all right and when
you say massproduced like I don't know how many of these are actually going to make either i have no idea i mean I do I
could definitely see it being limited i do know that some of the I'm just going
to move this again i do know that some of the dual GPU cards in the past have
actually been fairly limited production run and they have intentionally kept the
supply constrained because they know that if they just flooded the market
with them there's no way they could sell them all anyway and uh so that may be
AMD's strategy here keep it as a niche appeal item so the rumored suggested
retail price is over
$1,500 and when did this happen
cuz it was always like a grand wasn't it yes and then it was like Titan Z nope
well no no what started this actually I
think we have NVIDIA to blame for this well we do titan but not Titan Z because
Titan how much was Titan $1,000 for a
single GPU card so they came in and they
went "Okay we've got the 690 which is a dual GPU card we're going to put another
card at that price point Titan at $1,000
and that is our thousand tier card now that's a single GPU card
if you want two of those which by the way is a miracle of engineering
depending on the clock speeds that NVIDIA and AMD like both of them
miraculous engineering but if you want two of these things on a card you got to
pay more than a grand now like what happened
i don't know cuz like it wasn't that long ago like personally who cares just
buy two of the other one it's going to be so much better anyways and cheaper
well we don't have a clear idea of what the clock speeds will be on this card
but what is rumored allegedly is that it will have a total of
5,632 stream processors making it two fullyfledged Hawaii XT cores boom did
you say boo or boom boom boom boom like like boom as in like Yeah
we should have sound effects on this show like on radio you probably haven't seen this but the Battlefield 4 Easter
egg if you happen to make that water thing
if you look close enough right when he hits the water there's like a fire
explosion then it instantly switches to water if you look close enough it's
there and if you follow the people's camera when they're in the water it's
like it blows up but like only for a second it's how they're simulating the
Yeah that's fascinating
that is a cheap hack and I love it yeah
taking advantage of the excellent water physics they already have in the game
and a mechanic they've already built y
if go look at that footage again pay attention and look for the the the like
yellowy fire explosion that would happen from like a bomb in Battlefield 4 and
watch it just disappear like right away touche dice touche yep i don't know how
many people have actually noticed that but I love it i I had to segue to that
because I was like "This somehow connects." And there we go done speaking
of Connect lots lots of great Microsoft news this
week although very little of it is to do with Connect if at all nothing's to do
with Connect all right well hold on you could make the argument that Cortana
could potentially be connected at some point yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah because
I I don't see Microsoft putting a bunch of resources into an excellent voice
control mechanism and then not putting it on the Xbox One which desperately
needs it all right so Windows 8 will be free on
devices under 9 in this is amazing and
it pretty much makes me forgive Microsoft but not Google for that whole
thing with not allowing tablets that run both OSS so our original source here is
the Verge and the idea is that with
phones and tablets this has been a huge
roadblock for Microsoft gaining any market share because let me tell you
from talking to guys like HTC about the
kinds of constraints that they are under
when building a cell phone they basically are at the mercy of the
providers who say "Look we're going to sell it for this much under contract
so whatever it costs you we don't care figure it out
that is how that business works so for
Microsoft to take some of the burden off of the handset makers to where they have
to pay for the OS compared to Android which is free and iOS which Apple is
obviously subsidizing in enough ways that they can just say okay well you
know we don't have to charge ourselves for the OS because we're going to make
money on the 30% cut we take on the app store we're going to make money on any
kinds of purchases off of iTunes that
this ecosystem builds they don't have to worry about the cost of the OS where now
Microsoft is making Windows free on devices with screens under 9 in i love
it it's very cool uh I saw a lot of people in the comments celebrating
saying that they were going to install it i don't know yeah it's not that
simple no I think this is more awesome because you're going to see it on more
devices hopefully at a cheaper price point and stuff not necessarily because you're going to be able to like hack
hack and doze your phone although that would be cool that would be pretty cool
that would be really cool and like maybe that becomes a thing i don't know but right now it's like not so because I
mean that's one of the big problems with Windows Phone it's the very limited
hardware that's available that's another thing actually to segue into another
topic which I don't even know where it is um but they're encouraging people to
make cross-platform apps now so they're making it so if you make an app for the
Windows Store on a Windows 8.1 PC it
should hopefully also work on the phone right yeah no they're they're they're
pushing much tighter integration across the platforms overall in fact I've got a
YouTube video here that we can just go ahead and have a quick quick boo at this
video is awesome yeah the video's super No it's not that one it's a different
one uh the video is super short Windows
and Windows Phone together and basically um Joe Belior just talks about how they
want them to be better integrated and he shows a quick example okay he talks for
a bit
bloop bloop okay so he shows an example
bloop come on bloop
where he changes the background desktop
wallpaper color so the theme on his
phone and a few seconds later although they've edited the video so I have no
idea how many seconds it actually took a few seconds later the the Windows
desktop changes color as well and then
of course they're going to work with um what do they call it now one drive the
rebranding of Sky Drive so their cloud storage is going to be tightly
integrated they want the apps to be tightly integrated so that you're having
more of an ecosystem experience and that is ultimately how they're going to make
this strategy work microsoft is making a big bet here because this is such a huge
departure from their traditional business of selling you the OS upfront
whereas now you look at the new strategy they're going to go "Okay
well we still want you to buy Windows." Mind you they're slashing prices on
Windows on Windows 8.1 for desktops as well by 70% for makers for device makers
not for standalone so they're basically going "Okay look we're going to sell you
much cheaper Windows for your desktop machine we're going to give it to you
for your phone and your tablet and then
we need to find other ways to make up that revenue." But I'm looking at some
of the ways that they're doing it going "Wow this is really smart." So let's
talk about Office for iPad for a moment here yep definitely office for iPad
downloads reached 12 million
collectively massive that is a big number i mean the number of iPads out
there I think is estimated to be somewhere in the 150 million to 250
million sort of range so if you look at that and go okay let's say even you know
the higher number is more accurate that means that like 5% of iPad users are so
tired of the other productivity solutions that they want Microsoft
Office which let's face it is probably the only reason that a Surface RT ever
sold a single unit two two quick questions before we keep going forward
how long do you think until they rename it Office One instead of Office 365 and
two what do you think the next word is going to be because right now everyone is naming everything something one well
hopefully not Word one i I want word no
I I don't mean word as in Oh that's confusing i don't mean word as in the program i mean word is in how everyone's
using the word one like everyone's going to switch at some point
they I hope I want I want word up
it's worth a shot word up is the subscription one because it just constantly gets better yes okay tim Tim
from Microsoft man I hope you're watching please like
like send some emails okay it needs to be called Word Up like the step up model
okay so anyway the free version of
Office for iPad actually only supports a
very limited set of features and the way that Microsoft wants you to give them
money is by going for an Office 365
subscription so it's $99 or more for a
year and let's talk frankly about this for a moment does Office 365 make sense
to you um I think we were we were
talking earlier did my whole computer just lock up why do I have so many problems with laptops no it's all good
um called about about No it's not it's
called my previous laptop is really really old now and has problems and this
one and do you like this laptop no
anyway um uh was I going to say yeah we were
talking about doing it for the business but it's really expensive because of how
many subs we'd have to get y um for But it allows five devices and collaborative
tools i mean but is it five different users no five devices per user so as a
as a company that's a lot of subscriptions okay but if I want people
to be able to work out of office more easily if I want them to be able to
definitely do if I want them to like Okay no I mean great example of this is
if I want to share um like a B-roll shot
list with someone really easily that I
kind of created but I need to finish up if I could edit that on my phone share
it with the group and send a push notification how great does that make
that would be really nice or if you can if you have your laptop and you want to
be able to uh you know do a PowerPoint presentation on some other machine just
being able to grab it the advantages are tangible and the cost compared to
something like Creative Cloud which we already subscribed to for how much is
Creative Cloud $80 a month per user I think excuse me not sure something like
that and the cost is actually not that high if you look at it from a monthly
perspective uh yeah Office 365 is five
computers and five devices there you go so that's from someone in Twitch chat
here and like that's cool and I can definitely see it for university kids
because cuz I'm just so tired of other solutions although at the same time if
you just bought whatever release version of Word was released at the beginning of
your university life you could probably use it the entire time through but then
it doesn't have all the integration and the live editing and collaboration
honestly I see this being more of a feature for people that are going to have to like maybe business kids they're
going to have to do a lot of collaborative work on big documents and
and offices i don't know if it necessarily makes as much sense for us
because we're going to spend a lot more of our time NVIDIA editing software i
don't think any I don't think everyone here needs it no I think you need it and
I need it probably but I think that Okay
like how tired are you of Dropbox and
like I've gotten to the point where because sometimes it doesn't sync
correctly with Dropbox and you resave it and then it doesn't go elsewhere and
like it's and even though I save on the server my massive massive Excel sheet
which like I understand why it's crashing because it's massive because I
keep everything in there but it can still crash and then that's catastrophic
and it just doesn't work that well whereas if I can have something that
just syncs correctly all the time I would pay money for that the problem and
but again this is where Microsoft is still needs to get your money from you
somehow is that it is only going to work with one drive so right now the iPad app
has no integration with other services like Google Drive or Dropbox so they
want to sell you cloud storage they want to sell you a subscription to their
software but they're going to give you the OS for free
it sounds crazy because it's Microsoft but is it really any different from what
other guys are doing i just saw someone type in Twitch chat it It's not free
because it's a subscription you idiots i have no idea what that guy means Windows
will be free that's not a subscription oh is that what he interpreted from what
we were saying yeah cuz we know we know Office 365 isn't free we I just spent
like a while talking about how it might be too expensive for the company to
adopt to it um but yeah I just like h I
don't know all right so let's move on to Oh actually no there was more good
Microsoft news I wanted to Ah yes the Windows 8.1 update so I think you're a
big fan of everything that's going on here so maybe I'll play the video for
them and you can kind of kind of talk while Joe talks or doesn't talk because
he's muted so okay so go hard so I saw I
saw a leak on The Verge i saw a leak on a bunch of other things new York Times
which I was really scared of going to because of what they've done to me lately i feel like an abused child when
it comes to the New York Times um some people will get that not everyone but
this is a leak about different well not really a leak it's official uh about
different things that are coming to Windows 8.1 update 1 they should have
just called it Windows 8.2 but or Service Pack one or Service Pack one or
something that they've done before but whatever everyone sucks at naming
nowadays i know right so we'll just take it I guess um but they're stepping back
and doing some things that they should have done for a long time and they're doing some of them in very interesting
ways so they're doing stuff like you can boot and resume directly to your desktop
yay super cool but then at the same time
this is very easy to hack in yourself and why wasn't that a feature before anyway why wasn't that a feature before
straight to desktop no modern UI seriously uh Windows Store apps can now
open as Windows and can be pinned to the taskbar that is very cool because it's
super frustrating when I open something and like the default program which I
know I can change but still is a Windows app and then it's like how do I even get
out of this how do I get back to what I was doing why is it my full screen all
this other junk so now it can open as as as Windows on your desktop which is nice
i mean I think the most offensive one there had to be the picture viewing app
the default one oh my god it is the giantest steamingiest pile of garbage
ever like it really is so I'm going to go ahead i'm just going to open up like
one of my thumbnails and I'm going to intentionally open it with this terrible
terrible application why you photos who knows why you would ever want to use it
i have no idea okay so photos so I open
it in this thing and it's like okay what can I do oh okay it's
actually managing to switch between I've rarely even seen it be able to do that
before i know so half the time it doesn't even do that how do I How do I
make it full screen okay and then but then one thing is you're doing all this
with a touchcreen as well and I'm doing this with a touchcreen it's it's a lot
worse without a touch screen like I hate that thing a lot a lot worse it's the
first thing that I that makes me realize that I'm on Windows 8 is see and then
you're trying to press the escape button cuz you're like I want to out because it's a full screen application escape
should make it not full screen cuz you're supposed to escape the application but anyways uh yeah now a
thing going to be in Windows that's very nice they're also going to have minimize
and close buttons in the top right hand corner which is going to be nice so if
you're in full screen you can actually minimize it now it'll minimize it now
although we're we just barely cut off so they can't see it awesome anyway that's
great but yeah that that's there now which is awesome and again should have
been there for a really really long time um they added media control to store
apps in the taskbar although this was definitely already a thing in Windows 7
but like they added it to the store apps which is like K well okay i don't that
definitely should have just been like an automatic knee-jerk we need this to be a
thing not a added feature but you can shut down the computer without dragging
your mouse to the bottom corner carefully moving it up so you don't go
outside of the little the little band there and then yeah so that's good happy
that's back happy the search is there as well and then there's also now a tile
icon for PC settings so there's like almost no reason to swipe in from the
right anymore because that was super dumb so luckily that's no longer a thing
um there's now right-click context menu for things in the modern UI junk which
hopefully will never be in there anyways um and you can like move groups of
things around because you can now multi select by holding control again hopefully it'll just never be in there
anyways one thing about that though is that's not intuitive at all for people
who are like touchscreen computer operators it's like yeah you can
rearrange like that to me holding control to multi select is a power user
thing that's not something my mom does
so like even implementing features like that in modern UI it's like why are you
even spending the time yeah in modern UI yeah yeah definitely agree in in the
rest of the computer it's like okay that makes sense but that's already a thing yeah it's already a thing um so yeah I
hear you on that but then again hopefully you're just never going to use it anyways so who cares let them
innovate as much as they want um in the all apps section things are now
highlighted as you guys can probably see on screen nope he's not showing it
anyways um now if you go to all apps newly installed applications will be
highlighted so you can find them easily which is like all right cool I guess and
then what everyone actually cares about which we are still can't see is the new
start menu which I'm not very good at this it's just if you now click on the
start menu it shows a more classic styled start menu and then it has
Metroled um things on the right which is I
actually think is pretty cool um and the only place in here where I wasn't like
okay well I either hate modern UI and don't use it so don't care about any of
these changes or um I just installed
classic start or some other form of start button and got all these things
like directly to desktop anyways so why does any of this matter the start menu
looks really good um it has the old style can you share that if you click
there oh my god I hate Windows 8 nope
doesn't work really you have it set up like that you don't have a start menu
set up i use touch okay i guess it makes sense you have touch um and I don't use
the start menu i pin everything i haven't touched the start menu on my
desktop in month you just pin everything yeah that's true but now you can pin I
can show you guys my setup yeah I could pin modern apps if I wanted to why you
even would want to no one knows but now you can do it now we can do it my thing
is now you not pinning them but now they open in Windows so they don't disrupt
you as much at least if you accidentally happen to open a modern app you can just
close it i mean you know what the funny thing is is when they tried to simplify
um when they try okay when when Microsoft realized that most people are
only running probably a couple dozen apps on a daily basis on their computers
and they went okay well let's create this modern UI where there's like nice big clickable buttons for them all or
touchable or whatever they are um what
they screwed up was probably just the
fact that you that it completely took over your screen and stuff like that
because I actually agree with the approach which is why I like the new
start menu which if you have showed it yet i can't find it in the video okay
anyways uh maybe Google image search
because I can plug into you okay
um but but I realized at that time that
I'm already like that anyway i only have I mean now that I don't need a separate
launcher for every one of my games and I
can just launch everything through Steam i I only use like maybe 20 programs yep
so there you go and like the nice thing about the new start menu which I think I
finally found don't plug it in yet it won't switch to it anyway and close that
okay it Whoa yeah don't worry about it i know okay so can we show this now yep
should be fine but you can't see that
here hold on hold on hold on there's the thing
wow this thing is so poopy i hate this laptop i know i don't like it either
we've been through this we've been through so very many things all right
just just Google image search this just
Windows 8.1 update one start menu that's all you need to do wow you make my life
anyways it's it's has the more classicy style start menu with this I it has an
all apps thing but I believe that's essentially the search button then on
the right it has Metro style buttons i'm don't even know why I'm describing this
one you're just going to pull it up that's not it
where is it this one no what did you even type in this one that must be it i
don't think so oh no well why didn't you
just link me to horrible you're horrible update one what oh all right
i don't even know what you're talking about that's one I think is this it are
you sure that's not the one I have on my screen but that's one of them no
no no no
there there there there there okay we
finally all right so this is from ours Technica oh you guys have been watching
this whole thing i was screen sharing the whole time okay there we go so so
you can see it has a more classic style start menu on the left side and it has
more um I almost said metro tiles that makes so much more sense to me modern UI
tiles on the right which is actually totally fine because you can even see
here there's a feed and I like that a lot cuz you can have feed style all I'm
going to put in there really is feed style stuff y so that I can just like
click there figure out what's going on right now youtube and stuff like that i want to
put all my feed style things in there just so I can if I'm going for apps I
can see all these other things happening which I think this is actually great and
that's why I'm super stoked about this because I think this is actually the
direction they should have gone in the first place i think they figured it out
this is so much better in my opinion than any of the ones that at least I
have tried maybe there's one out there because I haven't tried anything on Windows 8.1 in a very long time because
I'm just using Windows 7 because I'm more used to it and I like it um but
that's the direction I'm hoping for so I'm excited for Windows 9 because I hope
they keep doing stuff like this or Windows whatever it's going to be but
don't worry gamers you will not have to update to Windows 8.1 or Windows 9
because DirectX12 has been confirmed for
Windows 7 and up the only version that
is that is not getting DirectX12 is starter edition which let's face it you
weren't running DirectX12 ready hardware anyway no this is like netbooks and
stuff so don't worry about it so that's great news love it thank you for Undead
Mike 18 for posting that on the forum and this tying in with like all of the
other Microsoft news ties into the death of the strategy tax conversation um
which is where Microsoft had an internal thing where you couldn't do anything
that was competitive with anything else in Microsoft's ecosystem within your own
ecosystem so if you were developing for some sort of platform if you wanted to
do something if it conflicted with anything else you couldn't do it which I
think you should probably give an example or two i was just going to you
okay that's good so like if you were trying to release DirectX 12 it should
be on new operating systems to drive
people to adopt new operating systems not Windows 7 because then you're not
you're you're actually creating a competing platform essentially because you're you're making an older something
better which they're not trying to sell anymore they're now trying to sell
Windows 8.1 and possibly Windows 9 in the future so if they were like coming
to Windows 8.1 that would drive their new goal not Windows 7 another example
would be um you know if the Internet Explorer team was trying to uh
dramatically update or fix the way that web-based word processors that aren't
made by Microsoft work within the browser that might get the old "Hey hold
on what are you doing you're you're not helping us sell Word you're you're
you're you're just doing your own thing i was gonna try and come up with some example that wasn't in the article yeah
whatever um it's a good example it is a
pretty good example but and like that's they're they're both examples of that's
not good for the users that might be good for sales numbers maybe in the
short term but that's not good for the users and it's really frustrating
because you're like well I have Windows 7 i like Windows 7 i want to be able to
use DirectX12 well I have this browser i like this browser i want to be able to
do basic word editing stuff in this browser i don't want to have to use Word
right and that it makes your products just inferior and then no one wants any
of them exactly so in the long term it makes things everything bad instead of
one or two things bad so hopefully we're done with that at least for the time
being and DirectX12 yay i can play Star
Citizen in all its DirectX12 glory assuming they support Direct i'm sure
they will um and I don't have to upgrade
sweet yeah that's actually a really interesting thing because everyone's talking about how they have to upgrade
so much for Star C and stuff maybe it won't be as big of a deal at least not
the OS okay so without further ado let's get
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I both got into the Star Citizen show on Thursday night um although I don't know
what the terms are for that because our team didn't get into the meeting with
Chris Roberts so we don't know if we like try to take a camera in if they're
just going to be like no or if they're going to let us film stuff there like we
have no idea but we're going to try and gorilla film as much as we can while
we're there i emailed Mr roberts personally and got no reply about our
lack of invitation i know he's arguably
probably very busy yeah but Oh my god and imagine his inbox i Oh
god I don't even want to think about that like mine actually scares me
imagine speaking of things that are scary
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it's good stuff you guys should try it too in fact Squarespace out of all of
our sponsors is I think the one that I got the most positive feedback about
last time I asked people to tell us about their positive experiences with
our sponsors during the show my biggest problem now legitimately is people will
like a buddy of mine I'm not going to drop names but a buddy of mine is
starting a tax service so you can do your taxes for you what not what should
I be leaving my Squarespace lower third are you still talking about I'm still talking about Squarespace yeah a buddy
of mine started doing a tax service thing and he's like hey can I get you to help me with my website I was like sure
yeah then like look into it he's hosting on GoDaddy I was like oh okay well we
can move your domain over oh no you have a WordPress site and you bought a year
of hosting from GoDaddy and Like I'm like "Well it looks pretty good can you
use the template?" And then like things just start breaking all over the place
and I'm just like "Uh um I guess I guess we can revisit this in a year when when
your current subscription dies then we'll move to Squarespace." And at that
time it's such an obvious solution it really is because and like it's easier
for me that's my thing cuz like it's so much easier for me to set up a
Squarespace site than it is a WordPress site i know because you set up our
WordPress site and it was a total nightmare in itself because I'm not a designer it worked when I was messing
with it it just there was nothing on it
so that's one of the things that's easier about Squarespace as well you
don't have to be a designer to make it look good all right so moving into our
next topic here guys i think that was our longest Squarespace integration ever
hopefully we made up for it with quantity over quality
it's all about that over here um ah yes
apple patents what appears to be a mount
for swappable phone lenses this is
legitimately exciting because one of the biggest challenges to making an awesome
phone on a camera is the sheer physics
an awesome camera on a phone whatever or phone on a camera i don't care i'm okay
with something like a Galaxy camera that it says a phone on a camera so just calm
your boobs boobs is a much nicer word for web
streaming than tits unappealing word well so that it didn't
actually say anything you backed me into a corner no I didn't by laughing at my
use of the word boobs anyway one of the problems with creating an excellent
camera on a phone is the fact that consumers demand thinner and thinner
devices and but do they i don't actually
really think so i kind of like it but like have you seen an iPad Air but is it
really driving stuff that much that's an iPad not a phone it's like sexy but the
but the upcoming iPhone 6 is rumored to be air thin and like I think it might
get to the point where it's it's like too thin and becomes awkward i think
that when we reach that point I will not
reach that point yet and you will because you have sausage fingers it's
I'm already at that point anyway one of
the biggest challenges is that there simply isn't enough thickness to
properly create a lens system that can do all the things they want it to do
optical image stabilization putting a big sensor behind it so you can get
really nice depth of field effects when you're taking pictures and if Apple can
get around this by going okay look we're going to have the stock lens on there
and that'll do what it does and we can do all the software processing in the
world and ultimately there will be a limit to what can be done but we're
going to build in a standard so you could actually put much larger or much
more complicated or more specialized lenses because that's a big part of the
problem too is that it's one sizefits-all and you could put specialized lenses on your phone i mean
the iPhone is already according to a
crap what site was it i think it's in I think it's in our notes i think it's in
our notes talking about the camera yeah flicker's data shows that the iPhone is
already a more popular camera than anything that Canon or Nikon makes so if
you could take better pictures with it a lot of people would be pretty darn
interested makes a lot of sense though because then just more uploads are going to come from a phone it's easier yeah oh
I know like I get it yeah I'm just saying if what is obviously a popular
photo taking device gets a significant upgrade in image quality and I know a
lot of people buy these lenses and you could charge a lot for them and they
would still buy them because like it's just going to be so much easier well it's the same shutter bugs that are
spending a lot on other lenses no exactly yeah and even even people that
aren't necessarily getting really high-end nice cameras because maybe they
can't afford the whole package but take a lot of photos and enjoy taking their
photos could buy a lens for their phone which isn't buying into a whole
different ecosystem and probably a lot cheaper in the end even if that one lens
is really expensive mhm i could definitely see quite a few people that
I'm friends with like the Instagram nuts um Yep getting this super smart move and
I super love it all right so this has
caused waves this week posted originally on the forum by Colonel Mortis mosilla
CEO resigns over anti-gay marriage
controversy so what happened was he made
a $1,000 donation to an anti-gay marriage ballot proposal in California
proposition 8 yes so this was a personal
contribution not like he was using Mosilla's resources in order to to
contribute to a political cause that
however you may feel about it is legal
right now it's technically Yeah it is well it's not even technically legal
it's legal whatever you might think about it you're allowed to contribute to
Oh I thought you were saying Okay never mind i thought I'm talking about something else give me No no no no
you're so you're you're allowed to contribute to causes that that you
believe in whatever other people might think about you doing that um that's a
free speech thing yes so we all know what resigned means i
mean three other board members resigned
around the time that he was appointed CEO we already know this before before
this whole thing went down so we we know
that we know that there's no official word that those resignations were
directly related to this or his views or
him being before he even was Yeah it was before he was publicly announced as CEO
was right around that time yeah
um so I would like to hear from you
guys if we you know hired a new employee
for example and we were to discover that that employee uh participated in an
anti-gay marriage protest or even a
pro-gay marriage protest can we put pressure on them to
resign is that the right thing to do so I'm going to create a straw poll here i
think these are going to be two different situations because there
there's two there's two different arguments I can think of let's go with they participate in an anti-gay marriage
protest so let's go with the one scenario so you could have different
options let's just go with one let's go with one to start on the employee to
leave the company okay so one answer one
is yes answer two is
um no I guess i mean is that about all there is
to it i was trying to find something in between come up with something else too
yeah it's like uh no
okay so I'm going to post this a few times you know what guys there's two
things that come in conflict with this already hold on hold on hold on i'm going to go ahead i'm going to put the
chat in slow mode temporarily that's probably just so that my uh my links
don't get lost or covered in the floods of other links that aren't related to it
um right okay guys remind me like tweet me or something remind me to uh to go
ahead and take it out of slow mode after yeah that's a good point we might
definitely forget so there's two two slight problems with this already one
he's not going to be in like a CEO position that's true so that's that's a
big difference especially when you're looking at a company because if he's not running the company his personal views
probably wouldn't uh influence the company as strongly yeah so you've got
that situation no matter this is these these sides that I'm trying to bring in
are completely not related to the opinion it's just like differences in
the situation um and the other one is still ties into how publicly available
that person is if you become the CEO of Mozilla everyone knows who you are
everyone's going to look into who you are uh it's it's like when the new guy
took over Microsoft y there was a massive thing of everyone like tearing
apart his entire history exactly and that's going to happen when you take
over a company that's not going to happen when you become an employee of a
company unless you're someone like Carmarmac who joins Oculus and then
everyone's like yeah but even then I mean he's CTO if I recall correctly or
science officer something like he's in an executive position yes he's extremely
high up so it's it's very different again what even is this oh okay that's
annoying um yeah so there's there's just
some differences to what we're looking at now okay well this is interesting
because on our forum a lot of the discussion has been around um sort of
where one person's rights end and another person's begin and that that
that to me is a very important part of
this issue because a lot of the arguments being made are well okay what
if he was um progay marriage then is it
is it okay to persecute someone for that if that's not something that the other
people within the company believe like should we allow something that is
effectively still whether we agree with it or not still a religious freedom of
freedom of religion freedom of free speech issue whether it should be or not
um still happens to be that should we allow that to affect someone's
employability any more than we should allow someone being gay for example to
affect someone's employability it's it's interesting one thing that I want to
bring up before I even go into this which I'll get into that in a second is that I was very proud of the forum i
didn't have to take this thread down 13 pages and we didn't have to take it down
and there was there was each side of the debate and neither side of the debate
pulled out nuclear bombs which is good which is very good then we have to take
it away yeah and that happens sometimes but every everyone was really good in
this thread so thank you everybody for having a very civil discussion that was
awesome um but I don't I don't know i I like the
free speech angle i think we should stay out every everyone's thing and one thing
that I couldn't find anywhere but this was in support of Proposition 8 I guess
so wasn't that a long time ago i think so yeah I think it was so
someone had to like dig back and find something that this guy did a long time
ago and pressure him for it like that's
I don't know you'd think that acquiring a new
position your actions would now be based on what you do now
but is it ever really as simple as being judged by our work no of course not
i get messages all the time where people say they love to watch our content
because they appreciate like what down to earth guys we are about whatever it
is that we're doing whether it's you know a CPU or whether it's even some of
the commercial productions that we've done they say they watch it because they want to support us and they like us is
Mosilla handicapping themselves by
putting someone who is as far as internet culture goes very unlike
likable in a leadership position so hold
on so hold that thought i want you to I want you to have that thought but I just
need a moment here so I created a new straw poll guys and this one is what if
the employee was in a leadership position and I'd like to see how the
answers compare here we go to if they were just
an employee okay so my point was another
thing that has to be taken into account here is that Mozilla is an extremely
public company y they talk about everything they're doing and we don't
mean public like publicly traded no like like open yeah and like they try to
bring in the community as much as possible and they they take donations
which is another big part of it so I've seen people I don't I didn't necessarily
see this on the forum but I've seen people saying like is my donation part
of that amount of money that was donated to that because even if it's his
personal funds if he's being paid by Mosilla that you could make the argument
that if you don't support what the individuals
do yeah so that became an interesting thing
uh that got fairly shot down because a way bigger part of Mozilla's income is
like from Google because of Google search being the default not from
donations they don't make nearly as much on donations as a lot of people I think
think they do make a lot more off of that Google search um and like there's a
lot going back and forth because of that but when you're in a company like this
every single move you have is scrutinized and like he probably should
have known that but then again he wasn't CEO then so he probably didn't care all
right let's go ahead and uh I can't find
it there it is let's go ahead and have a look at the results for that one okay so
we can see that you guys are giving us very very different answers this time so
if the employees in a leadership position so just an employee so you know
like if we were to hire someone that does something that I don't think is a
good idea like say for example um I don't think smoking is a great idea as
an employer I'm not convened by allowing
someone to take smoke breaks which I am legally obligated to allow them to do we
don't even have anyone that does i don't think we have one person who smokes
occasionally occasionally but not that often i'm just saying so so I as as as
someone who's in a leadership position it seems like most of you agree that I
should not be allowed to discriminate based on something that I don't agree
with and I agree with you guys yeah I was just going to say but it looks like
the a huge number more of you about another 25% of you or more say that if
that person is in a leadership position whatever leadership means to you whether
that is the effect it has on the culture of the office or the company or whether
that is the external visibility of what they're doing that yes it matters and
that person should be pressured to leave to be completely honest I back that a
little bit mhm i don't know if I back it 100% but I back it a little bit because
like in this position you're now jeopardizing the entire company
something that you've done you know I mean we've had conversations i mean you
guys don't see this on W show because we're not gonna have it out about things
like the direction of Linus Media Group in front of you guys but we've had
conversations where there's something you don't like or there's something you
don't agree with and or you or anyone else or anyone else like I like to feel
like I'm very approachable here and if someone doesn't like something they can
say "Linus that is a bloody stupid idea." you do and you do exercise that
that privilege not a right that privilege does get used and I think
that's important and I think that me being in a position where I can be
questioned and I want people to be on
the same page as me creates a culture here where we agree and we work together
as opposed to feeling like if we're working with this person we are
furthering something that we don't believe And I think that if we were to hire
someone who doesn't fit with our culture
that is a big problem whatever it happens to be i actually think that
that's one of the reason why we can be so productive is even if there's been
certain things that we've done that I don't agree with i think there's been certain things that we've done that everyone in the company hasn't agreed
with on some level um but we always find good compromises yep and we always find
something that works really well but the problem is that to me the only
compromise on the gay marriage issue Yeah is that's not that's not a Yeah
ignore it yeah but that's not a problem
that we really then that's not a solution at all and neither party will
be happy at all and that's not that's not a compromise to me but then as a as
a company your standing is probably going to have to be ignoring it right
but if you rely on donations then you're
in a different But then they don't Oh oh I see what you mean by ignoring it but
then uh but then uh like it ties in
because they're not ignoring it at that point like maybe the I've sort of what I
meant more was the solution to the problem at all i now figured like if we
just let people do whatever they want and ignore what they're doing yeah i I I
thought you meant more like the company ignoring it externally um because I
think as a company you need to kind of back off of these things because it's very personal opinion and your company
is made up of a large group of people and speaking outward unless that's the
whole goal of your company then that makes a lot more sense in my
opinion it comes down to how you want to run everything like isn't it Chick-fil-A
is really religious or whatever y but then you're going into that knowing that
that's what you're getting a part of this problem too is uh Firefox is very
always been very very open and accepting of everything and then that position is
not open and accepting so then it goes against the companies more like what
people envision the company as not necessarily what the company has said
they are but what people envision the company as and what some like everyone
views these big companies as people yep
i think we even get viewed that way a lot and you know what honestly yeah i
might create another straw pull for this because we don't take a public stance on
almost anything no I don't I don't know
that we've ever taken a public stance on really anything unless it has to do with
computer hardware yeah unless it has to do with computer hardware but my
response to people when they've asked me you know what do you think about you
know abortion or what do you think about this or what do you think about that is
look I'm a tech personality my personal life is my personal life and then when
I'm at work I talk about tech and it is my job to be opinionated about tech but
it is not my job to be opinionated about all this stuff and the response um when
people press me is look I'm not an expert I actually don't know the ins and
outs of a lot of these things and not
enough don't know enough about any of them including me and I'm not uh you
know I'm not personally acquainted with every person who's ever been afflicted
with any of these um with any of these terrible situations that can occur on
either side of the fence so and and I'm
not talking specifically about gay marriage i just mean in general we don't really take a stance on things that
aren't technology so would you like us to is the is the
question no I'm gonna go vote on this you can
vote on the straw poll you can vote on the straw pull this is an interesting
discussion topic yep
i'm definitely clicking no though because that's just scary oh my god it's
not in slow mode i'm turning slow mode back on i'm turning slow mode back on no
okay so guys here's the link slow mode is back on i'm spamming the link so that
y'all can y'all can see it there and for those of you replying in the Twitch chat
guys I'm not looking at that it doesn't count you have to reply to the straw
pole how is it how are we supposed like at all how are we supposed to do things
here all right so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic while we wait
for the replies to roll in on that one which happens to be technology
i forgot to update this with all the
points NVIDIA Shield temporarily wait did we talk about this last week i
thought we talked about this last week i'm sure we did i was something else oh
I was going to talk about it ah so game stream working remotely i was going to
try it i This happens with some of your topics sometimes you're just like "What
i don't know what this is about." I know i know i know i know okay so I meant to
try remote game stream i haven't had a chance yet okay i've been too busy
playing uh Bravely Default i'll try this weekend my problem is finding places
that like cuz my parents have a crappy internet connection cuz we're like
borderline Farmville all right so speaking of me taking a stance on
technology junk boom stance being taken
i didn't even know I was clicking on this link because it was mislabeled
this is a stupid solution okay this is
USB 3.1 type-C and I will give them
this like this is this is not finalized
but it's final enough that they're willing to show renders now and I will
give them this USB 3.1 type-C is very
beautiful it's very elegant it is even
smaller than MicroB and is going to give
you up to 10 Gbit per second connectivity wait wait for
Congratulations everything he's doing right now is when you're like walking up
to the guy in a dining hall and you're hiding the knife and you're trying to like shake his hand so you can stab him
in the ribs that go right so you can get to the heart that's what he's he's
carefully walking to the person right now now he's going to stab them what the
hell were you thinking it still doesn't lock it's still tiny and fragile i mean
I don't like the lightning connector it's not perfect it's still USB 2 i mean
come on really Apple it's still USB 2 but at least it managed to be less
fragile than the probably the worst
connector on anything any modern piece of electronics which is micro USB we're
talking about something that goes beyond
just you know plugging it in on your nightstand every night because cell
phones they don't last all day so a lot
of the time if you look at it and you go okay this connector is rated for I
forget how many it is i think it's like 3,000 or 5,000 or something like that i
think it's 10,000 no I don't know about the new one but micro USB micro USB 2 is
rated for 3,000 or 5,000 or 8,000 or something like that something on the
order of like not tens of thousands so
we're talking like a perfect scenario where
like this happens and then you like put
it down okay that's not how these things get used you carry this every day you're
carrying portable battery banks how popular are those these days you carry
portable battery banks around and you kind of go "Oh crap I'm down to 5%
battery." And you jam the thing in there and you're like "Oh what am I going to do with this i have to be on a call." So
you put like a portable battery in your shirt pocket and you got your phone here
and the connectors hanging off of it that is why small connectors are
terrible and that is why we needed something more robust not just something
that is reversible and there's a there's a render of it on a laptop or something
like that and I hope that wireless charging is going to save me from these
broken connectors that are stupid but there you go there's a render of what it
looks like next to a USB3 connector maybe I'm wrong maybe it's the smartest
thing ever and it's amazing but every
tiny connector with a ton of pins that's super thin that I've seen so far looking
at you mini HDMI is a gigantic piece of
garbage that weighs out weighs out wears
out extremely easily so reversible great not that big of a
deal on a micro connector what am I going to Are we going to Are we going to
replace all the connectors on the back of my computer with these with these
micro connectors is that going to be better having tiny tiny plugs okay like
at least I could find it with my finger how hard is it
to how hard is it to memorize which way
the micro USB connector in your phone goes on and put a dot with a marker on
the one that goes up or something like that like this this is not that big of a
deal reversible i I think reversible is great i think that is one of the cooler
innovations of the lightning connector but I think that having reversible at
the cost of durability which is another assumption I can't quite judge it until
it arrives until I hold it in my hands and break one because I will in all
likelihood look at it um I'm done here
let's talk about my next We should do a video when they first release we should do like Lionus kills
all the time and have like a like a like a deep dark torture scene where you just
kill a cable that's kind of creepy actually it would
be kind of awesome probably cuz you could make it like deep dark torture
scene but then also funny so that it loses the edge now I wouldn't actually
care that much about micro USB if
um you know if wireless charging were more ubiquitous and this this is what
kind of blew me away did Did you find some of the comments i was I did I ended
up searching okay i don't remember where they are but if wireless charging was
more widespread I actually wouldn't care because if I only had to plug it in once
every I don't know couple of months when
I'm trying to load a custom ROM on the phone or something like if that was the
only time I ever had to use the connector fine make it as tiny and
fragile as possible i don't care because I'm going to be offloading all of my
pictures automatically with Bit Torrent sync anyway i'm gonna be syncing all of
my songs with some other solution well probably Bit Torrent bit Torrent syncs
awesome yeah so I'm gonna be doing all of this wirelessly anyway give me
wireless charging so I don't have to worry about it and and this is this is
what blew me away because I've already had a conversation i already told HTC
that I will be slamming the fact that the M8 doesn't have wireless charging in
my review because it can it's not the metal backing it's not really anything
they might have to make it a hair thicker or whatever else but it could
have had wireless charging maybe it would have been more expensive to make all all that stuff but I already told
them I'm going to be slamming it and their response was "Does it really
matter?" And I was like "Well yeah of course it matters." And he kind of went
"Well I I don't know does it i mean lots of other major players don't have it
yet." And I'm like "Well yeah but if you're going to call it a Cadillac
ultimate you wonderful device phone and it really is it's a fantastic phone then
it shouldn't be missing something that phones that cost half as much have." And
then I read the comments on this USB article and I've got people just being
like "Well isn't wireless charging slow?" I'm like "Wireless charging will
not replace a cable connection." I'm like "Okay that has for someone in this
office already." Yeah I know that for a fact um where where are some of the
other ones it's it's really long comment section look how look where your scroll
bar is that's why I couldn't find stuff very quickly the issue is not the speed
but that it creates more heat loss and that's bad for this or that and I had no
idea that there was so much negative sentiment towards wireless charging and
I understand HTC's PR guys or it does
social media for them I think so not PR technically but I understand his
perspective now because here I am thinking it's obvious that wireless
charging is fantastic and many people are opposed to
I don't get the people being like "Oh but cables are so much better." It's
like "Yeah well you can use both." Like Ethernet is amazingly better than
wireless but you like both of them because they both are better in
different situations obviously that's not exactly the same because for wireless charging you have to put it on
a block or whatever but if you can just like toss your phone somewhere and have
it charging immediately instead of fighting with a cable all the time is
that not a good thing we have someone in the office that I don't think has
plugged in his phone since he got it because why would he he just has these
wireless charging pads everywhere like $25 on eBay so he just puts them all
over the place and then he's like "Oh click
whatever." Puts it puts wherever he has one down in the shoot this is Brandon he
has one down in the shooting area one at his desk and one at home and it's like
whenever he sits down at his desk boop whenever he's filming boop his phone's
never even close to being dead but I just had no idea that people
thought it was bad and to the people saying you know what about the heat what
about that it's slow it's not like it doesn't have a connector on it still
don't use it
or or I love our compressor i didn't even peek it's fantastic you like peaked
in real life yeah I know i was like shrieking and I'm sorry for that yeah
whatever all right let's go back to our uh let's go back to our straw poll this
is interesting so I always had a feeling this was the case only less than 30% of
you want us to take a public stance on anything that isn't technology and you
know what that sounds about right to me and that's that's I don't want us to take a public stance on anything that
isn't technology that's the reason that I've always just completely avoided
engaging in any type of conversation on that stuff because the way that I see it
we should form opinions about the things that we are experts on and and not not
even that but in that kind of stuff it's a lot more personal opinion based stuff
and we can give them information and then they can come up with their own
opinion and that's how it should work anyways and I guess if someone you know
dug up my thousand contribution to the
you know End Kittens Foundation or something like that and was unhappy
about it then I see you picked like the the most opposite thing as to what you
would ever do i love kittens and that's but this is an
example of me avoiding giving really I don't think it's really funny because I
don't think anyone has any idea what I think about much of anything um I like
I've I've seen people I've I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how
religious I am and I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how
anti-religious I am so that's to me the
indication that people just have no idea i've never heard you say a religious
comment on a show at any point in time ever so how would someone come up with
that i don't talk about it at all um so I think this this reinforces Oh I'm not
even showing them the poll results okay well this reinforces what I thought and
that's that we just shouldn't get involved in things so oh right so if someone digs up like a contribution then
I guess I would have to deal with the fallout and I guess if we lost viewers
over it or you know lost people wanting
to support what we're doing over it then that would be that but ultimately I
think that what we do should be about the work that we do and if you guys want
to support what we're doing in terms of reviewing notebooks or I actually have
Oh I have a really cool topic coming up soon that I don't want to talk about
because I'm sure someone else would make a video about it people were like "It's
going to be a short show." I know right nope no no short um anyway I think we're
done with that the the people have spoken they don't want to know what I think and that's fine by me i completely
agree um we weren't going to start doing it
anyway even if you didn't matter just so you know
oh uh Amazon Dash do you know anything
about this cuz I think this was added like during the show by by Dominic so
yeah uh I think that was added by me and
then I did none of the notes because I didn't have any time so he did all All right let's talk about Amazon Fire TV
then so this is Amazon's entry into the
very Oh Fire TV i thought you were talking about Dash no I thought you just
said Dash yeah I don't know anything about Dash though i I didn't look into it i I hadn't seen the topic so okay I'm
gonna talk about Fire TV since I know something about that so Fire TV is their
$99 set top box available now and the
reviews are pretty much already in it is
a streaming device so it supports uh you know Hulu Netflix Amazon's video
streaming service of course it is a relatively powerful device so it has a
quad-core processor and 2 gigs of RAM at $99.99 no less mind you I would make the
argument that something like an NVIDIA Shield makes a ton of sense for twice
the price given that it is also portable yep just throwing that out there it has
wireless N it has support for Oh yeah in addition to what I already said it has
support for Vimeo MLB.tv and NBA um it
is probably according to user reviews it looks like it is pretty much the best
solution hands down for Amazon's own instant video streaming service i would
hope so but much like every other
streaming device on the market and holy cow are there a lot of them it lacks a
certain level of polish at launch and a certain level of integration with
popular apps that people are using so one of the big features that they're
talking about here is the voice control that you can use to search for content
and play it back voice control that only works within Amazon's library
but the word on the street is that it's
actually at Netflix's own request that
their voice control is not searching Netflix's own library and that's kind of
weird to me um one of the other things that Amazon So so right now whatever the
reason is that feature is not necessarily it's kind of halfbaked and
then the other thing that's supposed to be really cool about it is it's supposed to help you do all of your comparative
shopping without you having to actually look up each of the individual services
so if you want to watch something then you search for it and it should tell you
where you can watch it for cheapest you know what's getting frustrating i I
don't see this on the supported list here and as far as I know there could
have been an update or something but as far as I know it doesn't work on uh
Chcast either but Twitch where's Twitch
twitch is not on the radar for like
executives who don't understand streaming twitch needs to push and get
themselves on the radar do they i want
them to be on the radar i mean okay because right now it's like the only
thing I really watch on my TV is they have an iOS app they have an Android app
okay so they made those themselves yes so anything running on a platform
like iOS or Android which let's face it is lots of stuff
with the exception of things like Apple TV which it still baffles me can't
install apps anyway
um doesn't that take care of most people
yes and no because a lot of the people that are going to be buying chcasts are
going to be fairly technical but they could just push from their Android or
their browser it's not as good though yeah I know it's not like nearly as good
you need to be able to actually work with the chcast screen streaming is not
nearly as strong as just pushing through the app i don't like Come on i want this to
work someone someone might be proving me wrong maybe there's an update for chcast
as of now twitch works with XBMC yeah
okay that's not XBMC is kind of a big deal though xbmc runs on some of these
other devices within their own operating systems like for example Pivos's uh
streamers you can run XBMC either natively right on the device or you can
run it as an app within Android personally the only one I really care about this might even sound kind of bad
but the only one I really care about is Chcast though because I'm not interested in really playing Android games on my TV
and if I am I'm just going to use my Shield um because that makes sense and
the Chcast is 35 bucks it's so hard to compete with it's
$35 like it's super cheap and you get free shipping from Amazon so it's like
it's actually just 35 bucks so back to
back to Amazon speaking of Amazon um
they are they are touting it as a gaming platform as well and you can get a game
pad for $39.99 although and I haven't verified this one of the reviews seems
to indicate that you can't use third party game pads with it which is a
disaster it should just work with any Bluetooth game pad because by the time I
buy this for $99.99 plus a $40 game pad
I could pick up a Shield for $200 use any old Bluetooth controller and I've
paid maybe a hundred bucks for something that is runs on batteries is much more
flexible and as in like console mode is
actually pretty usable with a powered USB hub which you can get on Amazon for
like eight bucks and an onthe-go connector I was able to set it up so
that my Shield can be perpetually powered and perpetually have all my
peripherals plugged into it yay fantastic like it just kind of works
i know I pimp Shield a lot but it really is a fantastic device i'm excited for
the second one i'm super excited for whatever Shield 2 ends up being i'm
still not sold on the way you hold it
okay fair enough your hands are not the same as my hands yeah and like but and
like that could change and number two or it can't and I'll just get used to it i
don't know it's fine and one thing that's uh that I'm not super sold on as
well is a lot of games for Android this is not on the game streaming front but
the Android gaming front are not designed to be able to control with the
controller no but they do have the remapping yeah but a lot of them like you have to
tap on the screen really quickly you need the screen tapping ability i don't
care because I haven't really found any
Android games that light my light my fire so to speak i' Yeah yeah I found a
few but like I ended up playing through one and I found myself holding the shield in the weirdest way possible
because I had to hold the screen of the shield like a phone yeah I know to be
able to So I was like this is really weird that's really awkward and I made
it work but it was like okay this is weird i mean for me it's one of those
things where 95% of what I do on Shield is watching videos or using Gamestream
yeah and then and then and it's a great device for that but then that brings
back the point that I was talking about where I I don't really understand or
agree with the fact that it has all this Android Android in it and then all of
the stuff that has to be in there like the hardware to support Android they
could have made a way cheaper device that just supports Gamestream but
then who cares it's now only 200 bucks anyways yeah 200 bucks is very
reasonable for it okay so let's get into
um not game stream but uh game streaming
technologies in general um laptop conversation yeah yeah whether the game
or is there anything else that we're missing that we There's just Dash but I
don't know if anyone really cares yeah whatever okay so is the gaming laptop
dead i did a review this week of the MSI GS60 and gaming laptops have come so far
contrasting that with my GX 660 I think
is the model um MSI gaming laptop so I I
was able to look like snapshot MSI three years ago gaming laptop MSI today gaming
laptop the old one ran hotter way hotter
was much slower was like twice the overall thickness looked stupid as all
hell and the new one is this slim sexy
cool running design with better battery life um and just is better display is
better in every possible way and I ran a
game on it to test NVIDIA's new battery saving feature for mobile GPUs that what
it does is it limits your frame rate so
if your notebook is on battery and it's still powerful enough to run a game at a
you 60 frames per second and you kind of go "Well no hold on a second i'd rather
have longer battery life and turn down my GPU and I'm okay with 30 frames per
second to get more battery life sorry blasphemous blasph i know right but if
you did okay well okay how I'll give you a different example if it runs at 120
frames per second and your display is only 60 hertz then whatever you might as
well turn it down so you can you can save that extra battery life and NVIDIA
is claiming up to 2x improvements in battery life by using this feature so I
set to work trying out the feature and I ran with it on and then I ran without it
on and not only did I only get about 2 minutes of extra battery life which is
within margin of error at that point pretty much um but I only got less than
an hour of battery life out of both of them so I kind of looked at it and I
went well hold on a second i mean what is a gaming laptop a gaming laptop to me
is a portable machine that is capable of
gaming but suffers from battery life
that is just abysmal when you're actually trying to use it for gaming
could they make a gaming laptop that has the power the hardware of the GS60 and
like doubles the size and just fills it with battery i guess so but the battery
technology hasn't gotten to the point yet where we'd be able to charge that
laptop in a reasonable amount of time even battery technology is lagging
behind like everything by a lot and it's holding things back and then I realized
something do I need a powerful GPU in my
laptop anymore because with game stream
you can use a hardwarebased decoder that's already in your onboard graphics
and when you're at home you can stream that game to
yourself with low enough latency that
with my last experience with it although I haven't gone wireless yet I actually
just bought Where is it don't want to step on that again i actually just
bought an AC wireless card for my for my Ultrabook so that I can um try Steam in
home streaming with AC um but if I can
stream the games to myself at home do I
need it that badly when I'm on the go and if I'm on the go what are the odds
I'll be somewhere where I can get a hardline connection and I can stream it
to myself remotely because I know we haven't tried remote streaming for
Shield yet neither of us have no but I've tried Grid Beta yeah which is far
enough away that
it's
surprising down when you're doing that they're saying you want five megabit up
and down both ways there's a lot of situations maybe not you so maybe you
don't need one but I think there's a lot of situations where now personally I've
never bought a gaming laptop yeah exactly but I like But I've never been
interested in gaming laptops that's not because I could replace it before for
it's cuz I just was I hated that experience and was just like nope uh but
everyone that I know that would buy a gaming laptop or has bought a gaming
laptop would still buy one because they're a lot of the places that they're
using it they're not able to get that 5 megabit connection fair enough maybe in
certain city hubs and stuff like that you're able to get it a lot of times but I noticed a lot of school connections
they're going to throttle individual connections totally fuar you're not
going to be able to get it when you're at school um a lot of the time you're not going to be able to get it when
you're at the coffee shop um all these kind of things so you still want So you
want to be able to game when you only
have power because ultimately it's not like you can game on the thing when you
don't have a power outlet i mean 40 minutes is that you can't even play a round of League of Legends necessarily
in 40 minutes no and I've actually seen people have problems with that um but it
it's I find it easier to get a power connection than it is to get internet
connection and like say you're in a car and you're going on a road trip this is not as common as the other scenarios I
was giving you but if you're chilling in the back of the car on a road trip it is potential that you could trickle off of
the car yeah you can yeah absolutely and you're not going to be able to get get a
couple hours out of it or whatever yeah and you're going to be moving too quickly that you're probably going to
get a craptastic mobile connection if one at all terrible yeah so like there I
think there's still situations for it but then everything that I just laid out
is things that are going to be again not me and and probably not you and things
that are going to probably very soon no
longer be problems right um whether it's the the school scenarios that I was
talking about where those connections are probably just going to get faster as they have been and then that's not going
to matter or if it comes down to the the car scenario that I talked about where
Korea is already working on that creating that insane mobile wireless
standard which will make it so you could be moving as fast as a bullet train and
it won't even matter so at one point in time in the hopefully not super long
future all of my holdbacks are not going to matter but as of right now I I can
still see the merits i never see myself gaming on the go and when I'm at home
like even if I'm at home like I'm on the couch or whatever I don't feel like going and getting my charger no would I
use Steam in Home Streaming or would I play natively on the device the heat
output when you're playing on it and the additional battery life that you can get
by streaming using this instead of a GPU
is tangible in your house definitely for sure i I definitely agree with that and
like honestly you said um on the run
like even if you're going to game and all that kind of stuff and even in your house uh
2DS it's cheap as all crap i can play it
anywhere um Austin Evans is video
calling me should I just like Should I just take it sure is there
like 10 billion people apparently it was
probably a misclick man i'll be like "Sup."
It was probably a misclick he probably just tried to video call like everyone
on his contacts because that's a lot of people kind of is anyway I think we're
pretty much done with the show for today um this was fantastic for me anyway i
hope it was as good for you
but um that awkward moment after
on that disturbing note peace out guys thank you for tuning in we're sorry we
were late once again we will have the for those of you who didn't catch the
entire show we will have the archive up fairly shortly and I think that's pretty
much it bye guys bye everyone
apparently miss
i love how you know that you're talking and the mic is on and you still do it
you do it too well I'm quiet