The WAN Show: Snapdragon 805, US Military Pirating and GUEST Kyle Hansen - Nov 22, 2013
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·2014-05-07
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Welcome to the WAN Show, guys. The show where our professionalism is your
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biggest concern because it certainly isn't ours. Sorry, I'm eating again on
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the show. I know this is something that you guys prefer that I don't do, but quite frankly, I've had nothing but like
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a cup of oatmeal since early this morning. So, I had that one tquito.
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These are disgusting, by the way. I know. Thank you for giving it to me, though. The best part is they're not
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super bad if you cook them in the oven, but then it takes half an hour and we
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had five minutes. I'd rather be disgusted than dead, I suppose. I
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appreciate that. Yeah. So guys, we've got a lot of great topics for you today.
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First of all, our special guest is Kyle from Awesome Sauce News, or New Egg, I
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guess, is the other place he is from. Um, we've also got some pretty
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interesting crowdfunding news. Star Citizen just keeps on trucking. So, they
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hit $31 million of funding on the 25th
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and then $32 million of funding on the
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26th of November. So, it's uh still
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rolling over there. We've also got some exciting new developments with respect
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to up Qualcomm's upcoming Snapdragon 805
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CPU. Um they're making some improvements to the CPU itself, but much of the
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improvement looks like it's going to be coming on the graphics side of things. I
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think I already said Kyle from Newegg will join us, so I'm going a little out of order here, but what are your topics
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to introduce? We have 24in 4K panels on
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the way from Dell, which are an IPS variant. We don't personally, but if
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anyone from Dell's watching, then we we should we should have some I really want
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one of those mon cuz we're super professional. So, you should have us have a look. Exactly. Yeah. He can eat
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by the monitor while reviewing it if that's something if that's something
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that you guys want. I can demonstrate the um taquito juiciness
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um resistance in it. Yes, exactly. Just like I did with the Xperia Z1 where I
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went in the bath with it on camera. We won't go in the bath with your monitor.
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We won't go in the bath with the monitor. No. U there's also news that
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the US military is the biggest pirate of all of them which is absolutely
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ridiculous but not that surprising
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unfortunately. And then I guess it's like really this is headline news like
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large organizations also pirate software. My favorite thing is the scale
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at which they pirated because they're Hold on. We'll go into more depth later.
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First let's roll the intro. Yeah.
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Gross.
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All right. So, we're not powered by Razer coms anymore. So, I'm just going to cut that off right there.
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But I guess that's like pretty much it.
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Thanks for watching, guys. No, let's get right into let's get right
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into the Snapdragon 805 here. So, the original articles is from Anont. So,
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we're going to go ahead and really the mouse is too far. I can't reach it. The
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original article is from Anont. So, they've got a little cool picture of an
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adorable dragon as well as a Qualcomm Snapdragon looking chip. I want a pet
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dragon. And the main details here is that this
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is not so much a revolutionary change. It's more of an evolutionary change. So,
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we're going to be getting higher clock speeds up to 2.5 GHz, which is just like
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doesn't seem right. It doesn't seem like it should be right. It's like, yeah, we're going to have 2.5 GHz quad cores
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in your phone. To be clear, guys, these are not the same kinds of quad cores
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that you're going to find in a PlayStation 4 or in a PC or anything
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along those lines, but it is definitely a multi-threading monster. They're kind
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of adding more more of more of everything.
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So, more clock speed, a couple small improvements here and there, but the
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main improvements are really going to be on the GPU. So, we're going from Adreno
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300 series to Adreno 400 series. there.
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It's called going to be called the 420 cuz um cuz no research went into that
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name. No, this I'm really in the mood for this snack right now. It's kind of
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disgusting though. But anyways, uh some of the other things that you gain is It
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was a joke.
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Oh wow. That didn't clue in at all. I know. I get it. Mhm. It's And wow, our
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start time is 10 minutes after that, too. I know, right? That's kind of
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brutal. It's almost like all the stars are aligning. Anyways, you get uh 2.5
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Gbits like you already said, 128 bit memory interface, direct 3D 11 class
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graphics, and freaking Open CL 1.2 full
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profile, which is amazing because as much as guys like AMD are talking about,
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okay, we're going to have like Open CL acceleration and you're going to be able
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to like batch process Photoshop files because everyone does that, right? Um
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you can use OpenCL to accelerate that on something like a phone.
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All of a sudden, Open CL is going to make a ton of sense because think of
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everything from Instagram filters to you're much more likely to be batch
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processing things. Exactly. Way more likely. And you're going to have like
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these specific tasks that you perform that are going to be able to take
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advantage not only of the improved
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performance that Open CL that that GPU compute can provide, but also the fact
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that it's going to be lower power consumption. And for something that plugs into my wall, I kind of sit there
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and I go, "Yeah, I mean, that's cool. Thank you." You know, it's it's great to
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have better power consumption, but at the end of the day, that extra, you
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know, couple of watts doesn't make the same difference to me that it does when
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my phone's running out of battery, you know, halfway through the day all the
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time. Actually, you know what? For all the complaints about Nexus 5, you and
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Brandon have not been having problems with battery life, but like all of the
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internet has been having problems with battery life. It has not. You know what I think it comes down to? Sorry, I'm
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changing gears here. So, I guess that was pretty Oh, okay. No, let's cover the
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last thing that's really exciting about Snapdragon 805, and that is the fact
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that is going to have not only hardware accelerated H.264 encode and decode, but
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also H.265 decode. So, that means again lower
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power consumption and the ability to enjoy some truly next generation web
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content because H.265 is a much more efficient compression algorithm.
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However, it does require more processing
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power to decode it. So, if you have hardware that is designed just for that,
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we're going to be looking at things like 2 and a halfK or 4K streams that can be
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decoded on your phone without a significant power consumption increase.
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So, like thumbs up Qualcomm, you guys have gone from zero to absolute hero
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just because, you know, a couple other guys were like, "Hey, yeah, we'd also
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like a chunk of this this mobile processor market."
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No. Bad. They kind of did though. That's
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exactly what they did because they weren't moving that fast. No, they weren't. And then all of a sudden, it's
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just like they were content to just kind of hang. And nowadays, you look at any
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smartphone, it's like, what processors are inside? No, no. What Qualcomm
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processor is inside it? Because it's like, oh, well, it could be the Snapdragon 600 or the 800. It could be
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clocked at 1.8 G. Oh, no. Maybe 1.9 GHz. HTC1 versus Samsung Galaxy S4. Which one
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has the same processor clocked slightly higher? Which one throttles less? Yes,
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it's true though. No, it's totally true. There's even like I was reading an
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article, this we're going to talk about this later on, but I was reading an article on the Galaxy S5. Mhm. And it
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was literally in the thing like, oh, which Qualcomm processor? Yeah, why
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don't we get into that? Actually, we might as well. And then maybe we'll bring our special guest on right after
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that. So, this is a rumor, guys. So, the
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appropriate disclaimers, we are not saying that this is absolute news, but it was posted by you better not on the
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forum. And there's going to be apparent like as
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if Samsung doesn't already have a
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fragmented enough approach to their I mean even their I think their Galaxy
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lineup of phones probably contains more phones than anyone else's whole lineup.
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The best thing about this one too is there's the premium and the normal one which you're going to get into in a
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second and then there's like four different colors I think of each. So, I
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couldn't get a confirmation on the colors, but I know there's like a red one and a white one and I think a black
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one and I think a blue one. So, the
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there's so many. So, the rumors are that the average sort of the the consumer I
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mean, remember when the S4 was a flagship device or the S series was
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flagship? Now, the S series is like, well, there's a mini one that's like
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it's like that but smaller and also much crappier. And then there's going to be a
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normal plastic one with an OLED display.
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And then there's going to be a premium version sporting a metal case and a
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flexible OLED display. And all of these rumors combined together are
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interesting. But then there's also the the bombshell rumor. The possibility of
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2560x440p, which is like what?
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Okay. And a 5.3 in display. As someone who is
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getting pretty used to 1080p, I can tell
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the difference between the Moto X and the HTC1.
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I can, but barely. If we're talking about
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significantly, dramatically increasing
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that resolution, again, we're going to be talking about making battery life
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worse for no apparent reason other than to, you know, have, you know, a
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measuring contest. An ARM measuring contest. Third ARM measuring contest.
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Wow. You almost made it. I know. I almost made it. So close. You know
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what's funny is I was even talking to uh I was talking to Ed today about how you
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know oh I've seen a couple of complaints lately about the amount of innuendo on
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the show and like apparently someone was upset when I put that Bluetooth speaker
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in my pants and talked it to you and I was like hey you're in my pants I read
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the thing. Yeah. So um I I I was I
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almost made it through that. So I've almost changed
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almost almost. Um, so there's the rumor
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is there's going to be a 64-bit Exynos, I don't even know how to pronounce that.
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Exynos, Xanos, whatever. Anyway, or Snapdragon processor, three or 4 gigs of
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RAM, 4,000 mAh battery that's going to be either awesome for battery life or
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it's just going to be necessary to drive that display. And there's even some vague
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rumors about a retina scanner. So, none of this is confirmed, but big thanks to
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you better not for posting news on the Linus Tech Tips forum. Honestly, it's
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where I get 90% of my news from these days from the tech world. It's extremely
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active. So, you guys should check it out if you That combined with the new hot deal section is actually Hot Deals has
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been pretty active so far. It's actually kind of cool. I'm happy it's been working out. We probably should have
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done it before. Honestly, guys, we were a little bit afraid that um people were
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going to spam it or there was going to be a lot of, hey, I'm, you know,
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selling, you know, tickets to my friends
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play that you should probably go to. Please. Yeah, there's been a little bit
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of that, but we've been working on it. I would like to talk about battery life on
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the Nexus 5 cuz my I'm going to film my Nexus 5 review next week. I'm feeling
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really comfortable with the device now. I've spent quite a lot of time with it
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and I think that the that the issues
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some people are having with battery life are being mitigated somewhat by the way
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that I use it. So, number one is I I'm
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not a super hardcore power user in some ways, but I do get a lot of incoming and
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outgoing messages. So, because I have a Pebble and because I've actually just
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started using Google Glass, although speaking of battery life, the battery is dead on that, so it's sitting sitting
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over there on the charger. Um, because I am able to do a lot of my reading here,
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even though I'm hitting it a little bit harder on the Bluetooth side of things.
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What I've noticed about the Nexus 5 is that Bluetooth doesn't affect seem to
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affect it nearly as much as other devices that I've used. So, this could
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be a Kit Kat optimization. I I'm going to look into it a little bit further
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before I do my review, but um Bluetooth doesn't seem to hurt it that much.
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Number two is I'm not turning my screen on constantly because I'm looking and
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reading a lot of my messages on my smartwatch instead of on the device
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itself. Number three is that tethering is something that really kills battery
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life a lot for me and it doesn't seem to get hit as hard when I'm tethering
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either. Like the one just burns through the battery when I'm tethering. But then
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that one has problems tethering, does it not? Um, no. It doesn't have problems.
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It just burns through the battery and runs really hot. We've had problems connecting to it. You're thinking of the
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uh the old one. You're thinking of the iPhone 4. That was the one that never
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worked. The one saved us that day at the studio. The X. Oh, okay. I was thinking
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of Motor X. Yeah. So, so there's all of those things going for it so far. And
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then there's also the fact that it has some pretty smart power saving features.
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So, I don't spend maybe a lot I don't
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spend much of my time
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um how do I explain this? Okay, Wi-Fi
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networks whenever you're not in range of them, it can just turn the Wi-Fi off.
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So, your GPS will pick up. It'll go, "Okay, you're here. I'm turning my Wi-Fi back on." This is a smart power saving
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feature that some previous Android phones had, like the Xperia Z1 had it,
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and I was really impressed with the battery life there. But, I feel like that's been saving me a lot of battery
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life as well. So, I'm getting through the day very consistently with the Nexus
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5. And I think the last thing is that it depends what you're coming from. If I
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was coming from the Xperia Z1, which I did use for a while, but it wasn't my
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daily driver really. I used it for about 2 and 1 half 3 weeks. Um, coming from
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the HTC1, battery life feels okay cuz the one doesn't have fantastic battery
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life by any stretch. So, Nexus 5, the complaints about your battery life seem
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to be uh a little bit exaggerated in my mind, but I do have plenty of complaints
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about the Nexus 5. So stay tuned for my upcoming video. Why don't we bring Kyle
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on? Are we ready to rock? Sure. Uh it's a little bit early. A little bit early.
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I think we were trying to do a quick show today anyway. So I think he said
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he'd be back by now. So we'll see if he's back. We have a a very secret thing
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to do after work today and then once we're done, we are going to be uh
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telling you guys about it. Sounds like he's under attack by aliens. Yeah. From
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1980. Yeah. Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. Sorry.
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Hey. How are you? I'm good. How are you? We are just
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fantastic. That is a great picture of you that you gave us for your lower
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third. Unless that was Edel that picked that out for you. That That might have
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been Edel. I got to commend him. Are you on speaker, sir? Yes, I am. Let me
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change that for you right now. I didn't realize I was up right now. Thank you.
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Sorry, we brought you in a little bit early because we uh we missed the sound
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of your voice from the pre-show. How about now? How do I sound? You sound
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amazing. Some would say awesome. Some would say that you're Oh, come on. I was
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making my way there laboriously.
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So, why don't you give a brief introduction of who the devil you are
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and what the devil you do and why the devil anyone should care before we go
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any further into the show here for those of our audience who haven't heard of
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you. Sure. Uh, first of all, you probably shouldn't care too much.
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A he's playing the sympathy card.
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It it does it does really well. You know, I've checked the metrics on it.
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Um, but uh I I am essentially a YouTube
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host for Newegg, which channel for
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Newegg.com. Great company. I also have my own Yeah, I know. I know. They're NCX
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also. Much respect for for them as well. Got to respect your roots. Um, I'm also
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a uh a YouTuber on the side. Uh, personally, I have my own channel,
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Awesome Sauce News, and I can hear myself right now. Hold on. Why
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not? All right. I'm just gonna roll with it. All right. Sweet. Uh, yeah, that's
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what I do. I do I do tech unboxings. I do reviews. I do what you do, but on a
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much smaller scale with a much smaller army. More of a militia. A militia. All
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right. So, why don't we go ahead and move into our first guest topic here.
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So, the Oh, okay. So, you work at Newegg. Do you see any
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of the sales numbers at all or you are you guessing as much as the rest of us
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are? Uh, yes, the latter. They refuse to
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let me see anything important. That That is awesome. Okay. Well, have you heard
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any scuttlebutt about 290 sales versus 290x sales? No, actually, not at all. I
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haven't really looked into it. I haven't really heard too much. I'm kind of in my bubble. Scuttlebutt's a word.
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Scuttlebutt. That is a word. I like it.
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It means rumors. I know, but you just said scuttlebutt. I know, but it's a
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word. I know. It's already up on Urban Dictionary by now. Yeah, it's been 5
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seconds. It was already a word. I know it is. I know. I know it's a word. Well,
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you know what? It's just hilarious. We're going to go to my screen where uh
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Chris Chris XLX Cross posted that the
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Radeon R9290 can no longer be flashed.
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Now, there was a thing going on for a little while here where folks were able
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to buy Radeon R9290s and with a simple
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BIOS flash, turn them into R9290X's. It turns out that this was
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only from specific batches and only
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worked with XFX and power color cards.
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So, that was that was all that was going on. So, now 290s can no longer be
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unlocked. But what does this tell you guys about the difference between an R9
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290 and a 290X?
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Um, I'm assuming he cannot hear us now.
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Did he me? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. I I thought you said guys. I thought you
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were asking the audience now. Oh, no. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you and Luke. Oh, right. Uh, honestly, I I
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think it says they're very similar. And for some reason, AMD doesn't want the
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290 to be unlocked. um for for monetary reasons, I'm assuming. But I feel like
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that kind of defeats the whole purpose of PC building. That's one of the
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reasons I love it so much is because we're not forced to deal with a an
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all-in-one built console. Uh we like to
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tweak and tune our hardware and I feel like that kind of limits that ability.
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So, tell me something. Have you bought one of the nextG consoles? No. No, I
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have not. Are you planning to? No. No, I'm not. Okay. Give me give me your PC
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master race. uh opinion here. Then if you had to buy a console, if someone
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took away your PC from you, held a gun to your head, and says you can only have
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an Xbox One or a PlayStation 4, that's all you can have. What about a Wii U?
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What about a Wii U? I would go with a Wii U. I'd go with a 3DS and play
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Pokemon X and Y. Boom. Okay. Kyle's a
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man. All right. You know what? I guess I can't actually Men by Wii. Wii are so
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underrated. You know what? My My first
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allnighter was playing Pokemon. Boom.
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back on Game Boy Color. There you go. You can still buy Pokemon. That was my
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very first All Nighter. But still, we use Epic. There's a there's some really
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good games. I don't know. I agree. All right, fair enough. Honestly, if I had
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to pick if I had to pick between the two consoles, I would probably go with the
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PS4. Uh just because I was a PS3 guy back in the day and I always had a good
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experience with them. My Xbox 360 got the red ring and obviously that's not an
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issue anymore, but uh I don't know. I feel like the community on the
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PlayStation Network was a bit more mature, a little bit on the same page as
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me, as opposed to the Xbox 360 kids that were always yelling at me for being a
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noob, calling me names.
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So, basically, you're saying that the noobs are are more friendly to each
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other on the play. So, are you calling PS4 a noob console? No, I'm calling it a
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a more downto-earth console. I see.
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Okay. So, a little bit less rabid in terms of the fanboyism. Exactly. All
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right, let's move on to our next topic here. You actually brought this up with
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us. A very a very unfortunate man by the
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name of James Howells has lost 4 million
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Great Britain pounds worth of bitcoins that were stored on an old hard drive.
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Um Kyle, have you invested any money into Bitcoin? No, but I'm really
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starting to think I should be. Is it? And yeah, sorry about that. I had uh I
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had my stream running. Sorry about that. So, okay. At this point, do you feel
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like it's a little bit too late? Um, you know, I think it's never too
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late. I think it's later than I would have liked to have, you know, uh, been
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interested in the whole thing, but, uh, you never know how much higher it can go
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from here, you know. So, um, I I'm
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thinking about doing like a Bitcoin mining build, right? You know, maybe for
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my channel or something like that. The problem with Bitcoin mining is that it's
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gotten to the point where the hardware has stopped getting so much more
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powerful so fast and bitcoins have become so difficult to find that unless
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you're buying I mean I don't know if you know this but they actually have dedicated boxes maybe you know you know
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a little bit more about Yeah. They have dedicated boxes that are just for
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Bitcoin mining. That's all they do. It's an appliance. You plug it into a wall and it Bitcoin miners. They're built
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specifically for it though and they'll really outpower what else whatever else
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you can do pretty much. I feel like I feel like your electricity would
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electric sorry the electricity bill would outweigh the money that you'd be
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getting from Bitcoin mining because isn't it pretty taxing on your system and just consumes a crap ton of power
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from what I've heard. Well, that is the problem that a lot of people had even at
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the beginning of Bitcoin was that it wasn't really worth that much. And I I
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think the most of the calculations that I saw people doing were okay, here's how
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much Bitcoin is worth, here's how much my electricity costs. And they weren't
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necessarily factoring in what if Bitcoin is worth a hundred times what it is
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today, not that long from now. And so that was the thing that kept a lot of
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people from getting into Bitcoin mining. That's honestly the reason that I I
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actually set up a mining box and then I was like, "Okay, forget it." One,
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there's a few things you can do. You can join a pool because solo mining, it can
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take like a year for you to get your own bitcoin block. Um, if you join a pool,
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your whole group is calculating towards bitcoins. Then you can get a cut, which
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is a good idea. And then for two, you can go to I think it's like bitcoin
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calculator.com or just Google bitcoin calculator and you can figure out like
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your cost versus your gains and it helps you figure out whether or not it'll be
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worth it for you because power around the world is different. So there's two different things to think about. Guys,
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we'd love to do a Twitter blip. So, if you have any questions or anything you want to ask Kyle, maybe like what's it
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like working with Paul, you know, anything like that, guys, hit us up at
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Linus Tech on Twitter and uh let us know if you have any questions for the one
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and only Kyle. So, my Google Docs just
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randomly signed out for no apparent
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reason. So, I have apparently lost my ability to find our next topic here. And
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this 680 Ti 6 GB edition. Yeah. Ah, did
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you hear about this? You know what? I This is the first time I've heard about
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it from that list. What? Actually pretty cool. My favorite part is no TDP unlock
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voltages. Mhm. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Holy crap. Cuz 680 Ti is like a
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beast card and it has overclocking headroom sitting there. It does. Oh
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yeah, it it won't break even if you set
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it higher. There's like a few things. Now, do you guys know if this is a new
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model that NVIDIA's put out or if this is just a like a barebones 780 Ti that
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EVJ has kind of tweaked? Well, what I think has happened here is two things.
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Number one is this has got to be EVGA pressing really hard on NVIDIA to give
23:21
them the flexibility to deliver the cards that they want to build to their
23:24
customers. I I know a couple guys at EVGA and I know how they feel about
23:28
stuff like Project Greenlight, which was NVIDIA's program that they put in place
23:33
to restrict the board partners' ability to RMA dead cards back to NVIDIA if they
23:39
did anything that goes outside of the uh the guidelines with respect to uh power
23:44
consumption, voltage, and clock speeds, particularly voltage increases on the
23:48
GPU that would cause them to die. So NVIDIA put this green light thing in place that basically went, "Look, do
23:52
whatever you want, but don't come crying to us when it dies." And this is both
23:57
unreasonable and a little bit just kind of kneecapping in terms of what the
24:01
board partners can do because AMD doesn't put the same restrictions in place or at least not ones that are
24:06
nearly as restrictive. I mean, they're still like, "Hey, you know, don't do anything phenomenally stupid, but you
24:12
have a little bit more flexibility." So for 780 Ti 6 gig here, it looks like
24:17
EVGA has pushed NVIDIA to get the green
24:21
light on a card that is just going to be
24:24
completely balls to the walls unlocked.
24:27
The first thing I did when I saw this is I was like, EVGA, I am so sorry that I
24:33
haven't finished that Hadron Air unboxing yet. Um, I will do it right
24:37
away. I need one of these cards. And they're like, "Yeah, dude.
24:41
We'll put you on the list." I'm like, "Yes,
24:44
I don't think you knew that." That's all this has been. They're holding the card hostage until you do that video. What
24:49
graphics card do you run at home these days? Uh, you know what? Honestly, I
24:53
haven't been doing a a huge amount of gaming lately just because I've been so busy, but uh I still have a GTX 670 in
24:58
my rig. It's a ASUS Direct CU2. And um
25:02
honestly, I I do have like a 770 lying around that I just I don't know why I
25:06
haven't installed yet, but um I I probably should. Is it air? Yeah, it's
25:11
air. You have no excuse, sir. Yeah, right. Air cooled graphics card upgrade
25:16
not happening. No time at all. I know. It's It's It's really just because I
25:20
haven't done much gaming at all. Cry yourself to sleep every night. We're
25:24
going to go to our Twitter boards here.
25:27
All right, guys. So, first up, uh,
25:30
what's your main rig? Okay. You know what? Here, why don't you answer Ricardo
25:34
here? What is your main rig? So, aside from the graphics card. Okay. Right now,
25:40
I'm still a couple generations behind. I've got a Core i7 2600 K. It's
25:44
overclocked to 4,400 MHz, which is still about as good as it gets. So, yes. Yeah,
25:49
exactly. So, I mean, it's it's doing everything I needed to right now. I'm
25:52
just doing a lot of editing and it's handling it beautifully. Render times
25:56
could be a bit faster, but uh I am planning on upgrading to an X79 platform
25:59
pretty soon. Um, have you have you heard of the Intel? It's like the retail edge
26:04
program. Yeah. So, uh, I think they're having a
26:07
ridiculous deal on the fourth where you can get a 4930K for what is it like 190
26:12
bucks. You know what else I heard about the retail edge program? I heard that I
26:16
heard that technically you're not eligible for it. Oh, really? Yeah. I
26:20
already I already did my time. I already got 10,000 points, so I got the voucher
26:24
for the for the deal. I'm going to call Intel and I'm going to tell them that you don't work at a retail store. How
26:28
dare you? I had it for like six years after I worked at one. Yeah, Retail
26:33
Edge. I uh Well, did you ever try to claim any any of the deals? Oh, yeah.
26:36
Oh, okay. That's unusual cuz I had to when I There's ways to do it. When I
26:39
first submitted, I had to submit like Oh, well, I guess you could fake
26:43
pasteubs. Yeah. Yeah, I did that a few times. Photoshop is a thing. Yeah, Photoshop. So, I what I used to do Not
26:48
that I actually did that. Okay. Wink wink. The second The first time I did
26:52
Retail Edge, I did everything legit. I actually went to a live event, so I was
26:56
able to bring a payub and like show it to them. Well, okay. It was sort of
27:00
legit cuz I also brought my wife and photoshopped one of my old payubs with
27:04
her name on it so that I could get two of them.
27:07
So she did use Photoshop. So she actually went to the sh Well, I used MS
27:11
Paint to be clear. Oh. So she actually went to the event with me and got
27:16
validated at the same time. Oh god. Then the second time I wanted something from
27:19
Retail Edge, this was back when I wanted like I before I built my current rig, I
27:25
always wanted like a RAID card and
27:28
multi- SSD setup because I looked at SSD and I went, "Okay, this is perfect
27:33
except it's not enough space." So, I was like, "Okay, I'm willing to just drop
27:36
all the money." So, I found four co-workers and this was back when each
27:41
of them was like $300 or something stupid like that or like 200. Even on
27:45
retail edge, it was like $200 or $300. And I got four
27:49
X25M 80 gigs, I think, or 160s, I don't
27:52
remember. But it was like my second retail edge deal. And so that was the
27:56
the illegitimate thing there was I got a bunch of co-workers to sign me over
28:00
their accounts so I could do all the quizzes.
28:03
Nice. And then uh I don't remember. I
28:07
think eventually I just got tired of it because Retail Edge used to be really easy. You could challenge all of the
28:11
tests. So, if you knew the answers already, which I usually did because I
28:14
had read the Anantech article four months earlier because it's not like
28:18
they're showing off the latest stuff on there, then I could just answer all the questions and I was good to go. But now
28:23
now they make you like sit and watch stuff, right? Uh, you know what? That's
28:27
that's true for some of them. But I noticed that maybe three out of five I
28:30
could just go straight to the quiz and get it over with. Maybe they've maybe
28:34
they've refined it a little bit. I think like the one or two um quizzes that I
28:39
actually had to uh wait to watch that ridiculous tutorial, it was like a
28:44
twominute long TV like soap opera type
28:47
thing and it was just the cheesiest thing I've ever seen and they made me watch it and I and I failed the test
28:53
afterwards cuz I was distracted so I had to watch it again. Oh, it was bad. I got
28:58
to go to so many free movies cuz those guys So many free movies. Oh yeah. Nice.
29:02
because they'd come by and be like, "Yeah, free Dark Knight screening."
29:05
Awesome. Like, all right, I'll go to that. Sounds good. I have no extra
29:09
money. I want to see this movie. Awesome. Sweet. I'm still amazed how how
29:13
good your MS Paint skills are. I just can't get Yeah, that's actually pretty impressive. No, I couldn't do it. My
29:18
wife did it. Not that I did it, but even more impressive.
29:22
Someone I I Not that I Yeah, whatever. Um, I had
29:27
automatic scripting things that would rewrite the date and I could just uh
29:31
snipping tool and pull it in. So, every
29:34
single time that I had to change a date, I was just like, done. Took me like 10
29:38
seconds. I mean, Intel should have some more security behind that site knowing
29:42
that everybody that's applying for it is in the tech industry and is more or less
29:45
techsavvy. I know. Easy to hack into that. You would think that. You know,
29:50
the funny thing about Retail Edge is I'm not convinced that anywhere near like
29:54
probably 20% of the people buying those things are actually putting them in
29:58
their own reselling it. All of them. If you check eBay immediately after retail
30:02
edge thing is just like swamped with all of it. Mhm. The flipfest. Yeah. It's
30:08
ridiculous. Guys, it's going to be a real good time to buy a six core ivy
30:12
bridgy real soon here. And it's always like extreme
30:16
editions and stuff. So, like people get these theoretically $1,000 process or it
30:21
used to be extreme editions all the time. So, people would get like 980X's
30:25
and stuff like that and then they'd be like, "Oh, yeah, it's $1,000 processor." And then everyone would like list them
30:29
on red flag deals and I'm like, "Uh, you know, overclock.net and they'd be like,
30:33
"Ah, $875." People be like, "Yeah, no. That
30:37
that and there's like a hundred of you selling that exact chip right now. We we
30:41
Yeah, no. See what you're up to. It's pretty
30:45
epic. All right. So, how are you guys' uh Thanksgiving? Um, we have Thanksgiving a
30:50
month before you. Oh, you're right. Oh
30:53
my gosh. I'm such an out of touch American. I know. I know. We're We're
30:57
basically We're just your hat to you, aren't we? Yes. Yes, indeed. I wish we
31:02
could not mine. I saw this meme and I wish it was true where we could just
31:06
have like second Thanksgiving like the hobbits. That would be awesome. Yeah, we
31:10
should just inherit the American Thanksgiving. You know what's funny is it only took Okay, Black Friday only
31:16
started happening in Canada about 5 years ago. It only took 5 years and now
31:20
it's a thing. Yeah. So, if we just started this
31:25
second Thanksgiving. Second Thanksgiving. We're thankful that
31:28
America Pilgrims Turkey hasn't blown us up yet.
31:33
Yeah. Hasn't decided to invade us for a second time. Yeah. I'm really happy
31:36
about that. We're glad that we're America's hat and
31:41
not America's cup. Yeah. Yeah.
31:46
You know, you're not going to last long around here on this here show.
31:51
I love you guys. No, I was just in Toronto last weekend to cover an expo
31:55
there and everyone was very friendly and I ate a lot of poutine and ketchup
31:59
chips. We're from Vancouver, so we're not particularly fond of Toronto either.
32:03
Leave some. Oh, wow. You guys know that civil wars within Canada. That's that's
32:06
harsh. Yeah. If there was a Canadian Civil War, it would be between like the
32:11
Vancouver Conucks and like the Toronto Maple Leafs. Yeah. And there would just
32:14
be this like huge walk in between. Yeah. There'd be like there'd be there would
32:18
be like an enormous ice rink and then there would be no We wouldn't even We'd
32:21
do away with the hockey sticks and the hockey pucks entirely and everyone would
32:25
just throw off their gloves and charge at each other. Yeah. That would be like the Canadian Civil War. Then afterwards,
32:29
everyone would shake hands and go out for drinks and then it'd be fun. Yeah.
32:32
There'd be lots of beer. You all just compliment each other on your fighting skills. Yeah. The the beer would both
32:37
enhance the uh the violence and enhance the camaraderie after the violence. Yep,
32:43
that's right. Welcome to Canada.
32:47
Oh, that's a great place. All right, so Oh, you know what? I guess we didn't actually do much Twitter blitzing here,
32:51
so of course I requested, will there ever be a GTX 790? We don't know.
32:57
Um, okay. What do you think? Ah, hey
33:02
Kyle. I don't know if you've been paying much attention to New Eggs Black Friday deals, but it's gonna be pretty
33:06
embarrassing if you hadn't. What do you think was the best New Egg Black Friday
33:09
deal so far? Oh. Oh, boy. Yep. Time to
33:14
be embarrassing. There's some pretty good stuff. I I looked through the deals
33:18
and um I saw like a bunch of little things. Like I wasn't really looking for
33:23
straight up PC hardware because I I recently built a system and I I don't
33:26
need to spend any more money on that for the next few days. Uh, but I did see a
33:30
kilowatt on sale for like 17 bucks. That's not a bad deal. Yeah. And I
33:35
totally bought one because they're usually $30, $40 and um there were some
33:39
other things like a few tool kits that were just dirt cheap. Not sure. I It
33:43
remains to be seen the quality of them, how easily they'll break. Yeah, I bought
33:48
the iFixit one and considering the price, I was pretty disappointed with
33:52
how it's just a rebranded Chinese tool kit. Right. So, you was afraid of. But I
33:58
did see a we we did have a pretty nice TV. Um well actually I've heard mixed
34:02
things about it. It's like a Chang Hong TV. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that brand. It's like a Chinese
34:06
No, we really haven't. I thought you surprised. Yeah, I thought you were I
34:09
thought you were joking. I thought he was making fun of Siki. Yeah, I thought you were I'm not being racist at all. I
34:14
thought you were making fun of every Asian brand cuz you can kind of get away with that, right? Um I only only half
34:19
the time cuz I'm only half Asian. Ah, okay. The other half I'm I'm being
34:23
racist. Is it like a dice roll? Is it like actual 50% random or is it like
34:28
specific things? It's It's like 50% Well, okay. I'm a quarter Chinese and a
34:33
quarter Thai. Okay. And then and then half like just white. Just obscure
34:38
whiteness. I love how that's a thing. Obscure whiteness. You're a white
34:42
person. Yeah. What's your heritage? I don't know. Europe
34:46
probably. I'm white. I don't have a heritage.
34:50
You know what's funny though is in Europe it's totally different and it is a thing. Yeah. Whereas it's just North
34:54
America cuz we're this weird like melting pot of whatever culture it all
34:59
came from. So we just we make our own culture and we have monster trucks and
35:02
you know poutine trucks poutine and maple leaves.
35:07
Yeah. Exactly. It's like yeah that's a culture something something like it's
35:10
like what are you? I'm Canadian. What's that mean? I don't know. I don't know.
35:14
Half Union and half Confederate. I don't know.
35:18
So you might say that you have frequent internal conflicts then.
35:23
Yes, all the time. But only 100 plus years ago.
35:28
I'm an old soul that way.
35:32
All right. Um, minus I haven't heard much about DDR4 for a while. It's coming
35:36
coming later. I wouldn't hold out on a system upgrade, though. No. And at the
35:40
beginning, it's not going to be very good anyways. So, this is a topic. Um,
35:44
Kyle, I'm not sure if you'll have much to say about this, but I certainly do.
35:47
OCZ filing for bankruptcy. Have you heard about this? Did you see this? No,
35:51
I heard about that. It's very sad. It's very sad. I actually have two Vertex 4s
35:54
in my system right now and I'm I'm sad that I'm never going to see a Vertex 5.
35:59
Are you going to create like a shrine to them? I should. Or maybe I'll sell them
36:04
on eBay when they're like really rare and extinct. I doubt that will be I
36:07
doubt that'll be a thing. Computer hardware doesn't really that much. Yeah.
36:10
Yeah. Unless it's like Apple apparently. Yeah, you're probably right. We even saw
36:15
old um Apple iPhone first going on eBay
36:18
for like thousands of dollars. Wow. Yeah. kind. Well, no, I don't know if
36:22
they were selling, but they were listed.
36:25
So, that's that's a thing. So, I'm going to weigh in on the whole OCZ filing for
36:30
bankruptcy thing a little bit here. And um guys, I worked with OCZ for a long
36:34
time. This time, I'm guys the audience, not guys, you and the other one. See,
36:38
that's why that's confusing. I know. I know. So, I worked with OCZ for a long
36:41
time. I um I used to be the product manager for OCZ. That's going back
36:45
almost about four years now, I think. And there were a lot of warning signs
36:50
here. There were a lot of warning signs. I mean, there was stuff going on like
36:54
I'd buy inventory at this price and then
36:57
by the time, you know, I would work through all that inventory. Not to say
37:02
that they weren't selling well, you know, they were selling extremely well for a long time, but like but they
37:07
they'd want you to take so much so that they could hit their quarter end and
37:10
year-end goals and all that that you take it in and by the time you're selling it, they're giving you instant
37:15
rebates and stuff like that that are so high that you know that they lost money
37:20
on just the cost of the flash chips alone. Never mind manufacturing and
37:25
customer service and shipping. I mean, they would cover the shipping and and
37:29
management and all of these commissions for the sales people. I mean, it all adds up to the point where the only way
37:34
to keep it going was to keep selling more and more and more and more and more
37:38
more volume. And um that was something that with the profit margins that they
37:44
were promising to their shareholders, they couldn't do because as long as it
37:47
was fine to take investor money and sell every drive at a loss to hit higher and
37:51
higher volume targets, it was going to work. But when investors kind of went,
37:55
"Hey, you know, you're um burning through all this cash really fast. What
37:59
exactly are you doing over there?" Well, they were buying market share and that
38:03
uh that wasn't going to fly in the long term. So, when it came time to to try to
38:07
make money on the drives, I think what they discovered was that their brand name and their brand strength really
38:12
wasn't as strong as they had hoped that it would be. And that by that time, SSD
38:16
had gone from being an enthusiast type product to being a commodity type
38:20
product. It happened very quickly. Um, in fact, I'd say in the time between
38:24
Vertex 2 and onward, SSD went full
38:30
commodity. And so trying to release a Vertex 4 and a Vector and trying to to
38:34
dress it up and gussy it up and put, you know, maybe they should have put gold heat spreaders on it. They were the
38:38
pioneers of putting gold heat spreaders on things to make them sell for more.
38:42
Me, too. But you you just weren't able
38:45
to do it anymore. And that, I think, ultimately caused their downfall. So
38:49
Toshiba is looking at buying the assets which is interesting. I had a lot of
38:52
people comment on um something must have been Twitter. Really? Toshiba? They're
38:57
really small. No, they're not. No, they're not at all. Toshiba is a flash
39:00
manufacturer. In fact, you know what's funny is I had someone make the same
39:03
comment about SanDisk and Adata about
39:07
their oh well they're really small SSD players. No, they're not. They are
39:12
manufacturers which means they're huge which means that they actually make the
39:16
drives that smaller companies rebrand. So don't worry, they're okay. Um, so
39:20
Toshiba is a step above drive manufacturer. They actually manufacture
39:24
nan flash. So they're going to be all right if they do they make SSDs yet? I
39:29
don't think they do. But if they acquired OCZ, then that would be very
39:33
interesting because Indelinks's controller technology is not bad. It's
39:37
good. And Toshiba toggle Nand is among the best out there. So this could be a
39:43
match made in heaven.
39:47
I like it. Looks like it on Newegg.
39:50
Apparently they do have them on Newegg. Oh, out of out of stock though, so I
39:54
don't know. They I don't think they've been doing anything for a while. I'm
39:58
kind of assuming. Yeah. Like is this SEATA 2 or SATA 3 or what? No, this is
40:01
SATA 3. So yeah, they've got one the HDTS. You They could use some branding
40:06
on this. HDTS225XZ STA. Yeah. Oh god. Yeah. Yeah.
40:12
So they need some help. Sounds like a Lean Lee product. Yeah. You know, Lee
40:16
and Lee's that this company that I just I love their products and the quality is
40:20
fantastic, but even I can't figure out their product line. I agree. I think
40:24
they'd do so much better if they just had some better branding, marketing, and
40:29
whatnot. Yeah. Some some co even some coherency to like the positioning of the
40:33
products. Like you go on their site and it's just like which case would you
40:36
like? Here are all the cases. Yeah. And I'm like well I don't know the
40:41
like the one. The gaming one. Like the train one. the train one. This is the
40:45
best. I even requested a train a train set. I tried to get one, but I couldn't.
40:50
Well, more like you couldn't at a reasonable price. Yeah, cuz they Man,
40:53
they were expensive. Yeah, they were. You know what? I actually had a while
40:57
back. Um it was a swag item. It was a Lean Lee um dinosaur. So, it was like a
41:03
sheet of aluminum and then it had all the pieces and then you assembled it
41:06
like you know those dinosaurs that you like put the ribs on the back of the spine and like like you made a little
41:11
Lee and Lee aluminum dinosaurs. Awesome. So cool. Yeah, that's fun. I I don't
41:15
know what happened to it, but that was one of my favorite swag things that I ever got. Did they Did they call it like
41:19
a 95608? You're like, "Dude, it's a Tyrannosaurus
41:24
Rex." No, but I'm sure they were I'm sure they
41:27
were tempted. All right, what do we got next? Um,
41:33
okay. There's a 4K Ultrabook apparently that costs less than $1,400. I think
41:38
more than anything that's revealing of how inexpensive 4K displays actually
41:42
are. and how manufacturers need to just screw off and just give us our displays
41:46
now. I wonder how well that Ultrabook's pushing that display, though. Yeah,
41:49
exactly. Kyle, how awesome is your sauce?
41:53
Uh, incredibly excellent. Incredulously.
41:56
Incredulously awesome. Uh, Jeremy asks, "How to work at Linus Techch or NCIX?"
42:01
Um, well, at Linus Techch, we're not hiring, but at NCIX, you could start
42:05
with going to ncx.com/careers. I think it is something
42:09
like that. Something like that. If not, it's on the if you scroll down to the
42:12
bottom of their website, it should be there. I'll find it. Just spam their YouTube channel and pine for a job. They
42:17
love that. It's a really good idea. Yeah, that works really well.
42:23
How how uh how tempting is it to have all that crazy hardware around you
42:27
working at Newegg? Uh it's it's it's really tempting and I feel like I get to
42:31
purge some of that anxiety that I feel because I uh because I have my own
42:36
YouTube channel. And so sometimes if we're backed up and we don't have time
42:40
to look at a product at Newegg, I can take it home and research it by myself
42:43
and and shoot a video of it and whatnot. And uh it's also pretty cool because it
42:48
lets me look at products more honestly. Um whereas New Egg, you know, we kind of
42:52
sell everybody. Uh we have to be fair to all the vendors and we can't really do
42:55
reviews um because if if we give a bad
42:58
review then no one will buy the product, right? It's a company. So that's that's
43:01
the cool thing about having my own channel is that I get to do what you guys do is be really honest with the
43:06
product and let them know how you feel about it so that people can actually make a more valid purchasing decision.
43:12
Mango juice asks, um, what is it like
43:16
working with Paul? Working with Paul is pretty awesome. Um,
43:20
he's just like he's exactly how you see him in the videos. I mean, he's not
43:24
dressed up at all. He has no hyperextended personality. Um, he's just
43:28
a really guy. What's that? I said, "What are you implying exactly?"
43:33
That that he's really laid-back and and
43:37
relaxed. That some people do have fake personalities on camera perhaps. Well, I
43:42
mean, yeah, sometimes sometimes you do, you know, sometimes you you see somebody
43:46
on camera and you meet them in person and they're totally different. Uh my old
43:49
roommate was like that. But, um Paul
43:53
Paul is kind of like a no frrills type guy. He just says it how it is and you
43:57
know he's he's not trying to be in the spotlight or trying to be the face of
44:00
Newegg. He really just wants to share information with people. Can we go back
44:04
and he's like he's a really good teacher. Can we go back to that old roommate for a second? So you said your
44:07
roommate kind of put on airs when um over video. So did you actually meet
44:11
this roommate over like a like a webcam chat or No, no, this is this is a
44:16
roommate that I had in college actually and he had in college. You know the
44:20
stories about you know what happens between roommates in college. Please go on. Oh. Uh, you're not okay. I don't
44:26
know who that was. But speaking of
44:29
college roommates, no, but he he actually was the one that
44:34
sparked my interest in YouTube, I guess, and like what a YouTube partner could
44:38
be, cuz he was a YouTuber and, you know, he made all these wacky um I guess they
44:44
were kind of like tech videos, but he did more like consumer electronic stuff
44:47
and uh movies and TV shows, reviews of
44:50
that nature. But um he would be just completely wacky all the time and then
44:54
you'd talk to him and he's like a really chill, mellow guy and you put a camera on him and he just puts on this whole
44:59
act. And uh Paul's like the inverse of that. And I'm I'm probably like
45:04
somewhere in between being completely exaggerated and exactly the same as I am
45:09
because I'm not interesting enough to just be myself on camera. No one would watch me spice things up. So Paul's
45:14
chill enough on on camera and he's so he's the inverse of the other guy. So
45:18
basically he it's like he got hit with a horse tranquilizer when he's not on
45:21
camera. I mean he he gets excited, you know, a
45:26
new product comes in and and like his eyebrows go up like a normal human
45:30
being. But uh for the most part he's just a really down to earth guy and he's
45:34
super nice. He's lovable. He's like a big teddy bear. He's like the office teddy bear. A if only gave bear hugs.
45:42
Let's move into our last topic. Now, I know you haven't had much time for
45:45
gaming lately, but how have you been have you been following much of the news
45:49
about Steam OS and Steam boxes? Uh, here
45:52
and there, but um not I'm not completely versed in it yet. All right, so check
45:57
this out. Top War Gamer posted on the forum. Here is I by Power Steam Machine
46:02
prototype. Now, they the funny thing about this is they sent an email to me
46:05
earlier this week that was like, hush hush, top secret, blah blah blah. we'll
46:10
be showing off a Steam Machine prototype at CES. And I'm like, okay. So, I didn't
46:15
say anything about it. And then like the next day, it's everywhere and there's
46:19
like pictures of it and it's like on end gadget and the Verge. I'm just like, is
46:23
it a secret? Is it not a secret? I don't get anyway. To me, it looks like a Wii.
46:28
You know what? It kind of look Are you talking about the white one, right, with the different colors? Yeah. Well, the
46:32
white it looks like a PlayStation 4 and an Xbox One had a baby. It does not look
46:36
like a PS4. It looks like a PS4 got squished up straight. No, it's not. It's
46:41
Xbox One. Oh, what? The color is so easy to change. Colors easy to change. Tell
46:47
Michael Jackson that.
46:51
Good one. I think it is a PS4. They just
46:54
put better components in
46:58
it. They bought a whole bunch of PS4s. They're just like, "Yeah, no, don't
47:02
worry about it." Yeah, whatever. That GPU sucks. You can take out the hard drive, remember? No, we got this. Yeah,
47:06
we're going to we're going to put a better one in. Don't worry about it. It's all good. You can you I hear you
47:10
can actually flash your PS4 to turn into a Steam box. That would be so epic. That
47:15
would be awesome. All right, so we have some known specs. It's going to have a
47:19
multi-core AMD CPU. It looks like AMD is just firing on all freaking cylinders
47:24
when it comes to design wins lately. That timing. Yeah. It'll have an R9270
47:29
GPU, 500 gig hard drive, built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, an integrated power
47:32
supply. That'll be a little bit bigger than a PS4, but still smaller than an Xbox One. And comes with Valve's Steam
47:37
Controller. And all this is looking to come in around $500. It's cool that I by
47:42
Power knows that the X versions are not worth anything. Yeah, I know, right? X
47:47
versions. Why do you exist? Why do you exist? You're not as good. All right, so
47:52
why don't we do a little a couple more Twitter blitz questions and then I guess we'll have to let you go. We've had you
47:56
actually more than half an hour. Sorry about that, Kyle. Oh, it's gone by so
47:59
fast. You guys are great. Thank you. A you're you're like he's so nice to us
48:03
and then he's self-deprecating. I know. How do you how do you hate this guy? Cuz
48:07
I certainly do hate him. I mean Oh yeah, absolutely. He works for the enemy. I'll
48:10
kill you. And you're not okay. You don't work there anymore. That's been so
48:14
confusing about this stream. Why are you so ra They are a competing YouTube
48:18
channel too. And we still do work with the NCX YouTube team very closely. But
48:23
you don't work with them. You work with them. And he called me out on
48:27
overclocking our graphics card benchmarks. He did it as well. Oh, no he
48:31
didn't. No, he did not. It was It was a friendly poke. A friendly poke. That is
48:37
That is what I tell my wife. This was not a friendly Sorry. I I can't hold
48:42
that together. Dear God. Are we still live? Yes, we
48:47
are. Yes, we're still live. So, why don't we move on? Um Kyle, do you have
48:51
any thoughts on the ASUS Mars 760, their dual GTX 760 card? Oh god, that's pretty
48:58
awesome. I haven't even heard much about it, but I think it's going to be cool
49:01
and probably a little overpriced, but that doesn't mean it's any less badass.
49:06
You know what? That ASUS should hire you to do their ROG marketing because that
49:10
was pretty much it. Yeah, it's going to be cool. Demographic. It's going to be
49:13
expensive, but like it's going to be awesome, but it's going to be badass.
49:17
It's like, yeah, there you go. There you go. I would Yeah, whatever. They owe me
49:22
money.
49:25
Uh, I don't know. What what are your thoughts on it? I would rather get two
49:29
separate cards or one freaking card. That's what I would rather do. You know,
49:34
if they're going to allow um SLI, yes,
49:38
quad SLI will be enabled. So, that's that's a little bit unique. Yeah, that's
49:42
really cool. I would still rather buy one 780 Ti or two 780 Ti though. Sure.
49:47
All right. So, we've got Is it gonna Oh, sorry. Last question. Do you know I'm
49:51
just curious myself. Is it going to be on air or they have like a integrated
49:54
water cooler? It is air. It's not like the last generation Aries card that had
49:58
that builtin uh that builtin liquid cooler. All right, so we got some troll
50:03
asking us a question on Twitter here. Which of new eggs elf commercials do you
50:07
like the best? Oh god. Wait, are those
50:11
are those live yet? Are those already up? I don't know, man. You tell me cuz I
50:15
I think this this this guy's kind of trolling us pretty hard here. He's like
50:18
sort of a sort of a jackass. I know him. Oh, is it is it
50:23
Paul? I guarantee it's Paul. Yeah, it's Paul. Honestly, I haven't even seen all
50:27
the elf commercials. I've only seen two of them. One of which all of our voices
50:30
are altered. So, me, Jenny, and Paul were all in a a national commercial
50:35
that's supposed to be broadcasted on TV like today. Really? Allegedly. Yes.
50:40
That's awesome. I mean, they were so ambitious about it. This was last week
50:44
and I think our CMO was like, "Hey, I want three national commercials." And
50:47
we're like, "Oh, yeah, that sounds great." He's like, "Buy next week."
50:51
Like, what? But but we did it. It happened.
50:55
And um they they kind of like autotuned our voices to sound like elves. It's
50:59
it's pretty awful. But uh I think that was only one of the versions. They might
51:02
actually turn around and and if they listen to our requests, they'll they'll
51:05
use our real voices cuz they're much sexier.
51:10
Wow. I'm actually going to get a kick out of it. I am really excited to see
51:13
this because honestly and as much as Okay, I hope no one tells Logan this,
51:18
but my favorite video of his that I've ever seen is his Tiger Direct commercial
51:23
spot from their from the Have you seen it? Yeah. They're great. I'm I'm going
51:29
to see if I can dig this up because it
51:32
is so amazing. Like the level of sellout
51:36
going on here is just so far beyond like
51:40
the real Logan that we that we know and love. Okay, I I don't know if you guys
51:43
are going to have audio for this or not, but I'm going to go ahead and screen share with you here. So, here we go.
51:48
Here we go. Oh. Oh, hold on. Hold on.
51:52
Okay, let's try
51:56
again. Oh, this is classic.
52:23
You know what? You know what it reminds me of is like those crazy commercials that you see late at night at like 2:00
52:28
in the morning. It's like, "Come down to Crazy Girls Television sets. We got the
52:31
hottest deals around town." Oh, I love
52:34
that. I love that. Oh, Logan. Apparently, there was no sound. I'm
52:38
sorry, you guys. There's nothing I can do about it right now. But the point is
52:43
it's it's ridiculous. If you search for current Tiger TV commercial spot or
52:47
something like that, it comes up. But like that is got to be the most
52:51
embarrassing video on the entire internet of uh of our of our favorite of
52:56
our favorite buddy Logan there. And you can see the pain behind his eyes the
53:00
whole time. Like he knows what kind of commercial he's in. You can see the act
53:04
of defiance. He's wearing his Raise the World shirt under his sport coat to like
53:10
be like, "Look, I I I I didn't want to
53:13
do this. I didn't want to do this, but they made me I had to, but I didn't want
53:17
to." It's like Superman like worked there. Worked. But isn't that recent?
53:20
No. No, that's old. Yeah, that's old. That's old. I thought that was new.
53:25
Yeah. No, that was uh that was amazing. All right, so I think that's pretty much
53:29
it. Thank you, Kyle, for joining us. We really appreciate having you on the
53:33
show. Thanks for having me on, guys. All right, take care. You, too. Let's jump
53:39
directly into these two confusing topics. All right. Yeah, this is uh this
53:45
is this is kind of a whackload of weirdness. Yeah. All right. So, this is
53:50
actually from the NCIX forums of all places. I'm going to go ahead and screen
53:53
share with you guys here. Was posted by Bloody Lunatic and the original article
53:58
is from Tech PowerUp. And the rumor is that NVIDIA is working on a GTX Titan
54:03
refresh, but like it totally looks like someone
54:09
just painted a And I have some reasons for it. Don't those look like silver
54:12
fins? No, those look like those look like dark aluminum fins to do. They look
54:16
like dark aluminum or shaded. No, I think they look like dark aluminum. I
54:20
think you'd have a hard time um changing the texture of the shroud here to make
54:26
it like more more dark than it than it
54:30
already was. Like I don't know, man. You should see some of the pictures of
54:33
people painted Titans. That's some pretty easy stuff to paint. Okay, fair
54:38
enough. Like real easy stuff to paint. Okay, hold on. Let's go. But they Okay.
54:42
Okay. Okay. When we've seen photoshopped cards in the past though, no
54:47
one no one really seems to bother with
54:50
uh doing like two chops of it. It's usually like one good Photoshop or
54:54
something like that. And they've done two different images of it. No, I mean people have actually painted Titan,
54:59
right? Oh, okay. So, you think that this is just a painted Titan? I just I don't
55:03
understand why the hell they would release this. I mean, okay, here's It
55:08
has a few more CUDA corores. I I guess if we weren't if we didn't have 780 Ti 6
55:14
gig cards coming, then this might make sense. Yeah, because then Titan could
55:19
still be positioned as the multi-way SLI
55:23
6 gig monster. But with EVGA releasing
55:26
that Kingpin edition 780 Ti, um it's
55:29
like why does this exist? We can tell you guys like okay well it would have
55:33
slightly better performance with you know it's full double precision floating
55:38
point enabledness but like but I it's
55:42
very weird. Yeah, but it doesn't seem like I I kind of I get it. Okay, so if
55:48
we had to gamble are you and I going to gamble not a real thing? Probably. But
55:53
like it could be. I'm not saying it's not. But I just like I still don't
55:56
recommend buying one. No. So, that's a thing because it's going to be so much
56:01
money. Yeah, 780 Ti is like right there.
56:04
Yeah, I've had quite a few people asking me, should I get a 700 series now or
56:09
should I wait until Maxwell? And the answer is unfortunately the same as it
56:13
always is, guys, because we don't know.
56:17
No idea. I mean, the thing about Maxwell is it should be on a new a new process
56:21
node. Um, it should be at least a a
56:25
strong step forward in terms of performance. But with what NVIDIA has
56:29
done in terms of pricing of new generation cards with the exception of
56:33
680 Ti, they've just taken whatever is
56:36
out there now and they've taken their cards and they've gone, "Okay, well, this one performs about in between those
56:40
two, so here's the pricing." So, it would this one performs better, so
56:44
here's the pricing. Yeah. So, it wouldn't it's not like actually I don't
56:48
know. It doesn't We can't really say. We could be wrong. They could 8800 GT the
56:51
market again. Yeah, they probably won't. I I I kind of doubt it. I think that uh
56:56
I think that their their strength right now in terms of graphics card market
57:00
share and graphics card perception is such that they don't need to to do that.
57:04
So AMD is doing real good though, especially with R9290s, not 290X's, but
57:09
290s. 290 is a strong looking card. I got to wonder how profitable it is for them though. That is a bigger die than
57:15
7970 and it's selling at pricing that is
57:19
pretty near what they were doing 79 what they were doing with 7950 back when that
57:23
launched. And then you factor in the fact that it is a more expensive board
57:26
to produce because it consumes more power and it is a more expensive cooling
57:30
solution because it kicks out more heat like and it and it's a newer it's a
57:34
newer design so the yields aren't going to be as high. Like I really got to wonder if if what they're doing right
57:39
now isn't just totally crazy town. Yeah. I mean, R9290, big thumbs up. In fact,
57:44
we've got something exciting coming, you guys. Our water block for our R9290
57:48
arrived. So, we're going to be doing water cooled R9290 versus GTX 780 cuz
57:53
those are the closest priced cards that make the most sense. And we're going to
57:56
get them both to the point where throttling goes away and we find out
58:00
what they're both truly capable of. So, stay tuned for that on Linus Tech Tips.
58:04
Actually pretty stoked. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited about that because up
58:07
till now I haven't even people It's funny. I get called an NVIDIA fanboy a
58:11
lot and I get called an AMD fanboy sometimes, too. It's fine. On our on our
58:15
recent video, the uh Can I just rotate depending on what card is released?
58:19
Yeah, of course. If there's an AMD release, we're NVIDIA fanboys. And if I
58:22
mean, if there's an AMD release, we're AMD fanboys. If there's an NVIDIA release, we're NVIDIA fanboys. So, on
58:26
our holiday buyers guide, I had someone asking why I hated on NVIDIA or on AMD
58:31
so hard. And I was like, okay, well, two things. Number one is that one out of
58:35
our three systems had an AMD CPU in it. Number two is that two out of our three
58:40
systems had AMD graphics cards in them. So out of a six possible spots that I
58:44
could have assigned to AMD, they got three.
58:49
So yeah, in like the three most logical
58:52
spots cuz I looked over everything. Yes. So we both agreed on those parts lists.
58:57
So if I'm an NVIDIA fanboy, then so is he and so is anyone who looks at things
59:03
objectively, I guess. All right, so moving on to our next topic that is like
59:09
what the heck was this one even about? I can't even find it right now. The black
59:14
uh Titan. No, no, the other one. We already talked about that. Power color releases crazy fan design. It's right
59:18
under the Black Titan. Yeah, there it is. Okay, so this thing is ridiculous.
59:22
What the heck are they doing? So, it was posted by Brown Ninja on the forum and
59:28
it looks perfectly normal. Okay, until you like There's a box. Hold on. Hold
59:32
on. Hold on. There's a box. That's normal. Yep. It supports 4K, which is
59:35
normal. It's got two fans, which are normal. Oh,
59:40
what the heck? What the heck is going on
59:43
here? So, we got five big Okay, so first
59:46
of all, it looks like instead of being a downdraft cooler towards the heat sink,
59:52
it is sucking air from the heat sink. Okay, so there's a couple of advantages
59:56
and disadvantages to this. So, advantage number one is that this implementation
60:00
can be quieter is my understanding. Although you're gonna have to have a
60:04
reasonable shroud on it and stuff like that, blah blah blah. Less turbulence.
60:08
But disadvantage. Um, whatever. I think
60:12
that's about the only advantage I can come up with. I guess another advantage would that be that it doesn't exhaust
60:16
air down towards the PCI Express slot on the motherboard. So, your motherboard
60:19
might not run as hot. So, it's going to be pulling air from around it and then
60:23
blowing it down towards your other addin cards or something like like Okay. None
60:27
of this that's not necessarily an advantage. Okay. Well, why don't I just
60:30
say this? Imagine your raid card was there. I'm not overheat. Okay.
60:36
So, okay. The other weird thing about it, aside from the fact that it pulls
60:40
air through the fins. Oh, right. The So, the disadvantage of pulling air through
60:43
the fins is that you can't control the
60:46
directionality of the air flow as much. It's going to come in from around the edges where it doesn't actually have to
60:50
come through the fins unless they've sealed it extremely well. In which case,
60:53
they might as well just turn the fan around because it's the same thing. So then number two weird thing about it is
60:58
look at these little baby baby blades right here. I thought they were like
61:02
reflections at first and then I was like nope no those are things. Nope. Those
61:06
are those are definitely things. So I will be interested. I don't think we
61:10
have a power color contact. But this is funny. This is what the OP is like.
61:14
Yeah. It kind of reminds me of like of like Nemo Finding Nemo little fins on
61:19
like clownfish. So yeah, I guess we'll reserve judgment
61:24
on this one for now. There is also some feature that makes it
61:28
spin at like basically max fan speed when you turn your computer off. I am so
61:33
tired of seeing that feature. It doesn't do anything. It's going to cool down. I
61:38
had I had an unboxing I did that someone complained I didn't mention that feature
61:42
because it keeps the fan spinning after your system powers down. Blah blah blah.
61:46
Increases longevity. Actually, it's been proven that it does nothing for
61:50
longevity. It's it's proven. It's done. It's put to rest. We've taken that book,
61:55
closed it, and put it away on the shelf and then burned the shelf. It's done. It
61:59
doesn't do anything. No. All it does is make your system loud when you turn it
62:03
off. Yep. Hooray. Cuz 100% fan speed is like real
62:09
loud. Real loud. It doesn't usually go that fast. I can
62:13
tell you that much. All right. So, um, we actually had a couple Razer things
62:17
this week. So, number one was we had uh the Razer Kraken Forged headphones that
62:23
we just released our unboxing of. And number two is that Razer did a press
62:27
release about their Evil Genius branded
62:30
esports gaming products.
62:35
I'm going to let you take this one cuz if you saw my notes on this, I have no
62:38
idea why this is a big deal. Me neither. Why are people Okay, good. Thank you.
62:43
Why are people freaking out? Well, color schemes are a thing. But like
62:49
people are freaking out in like negative ways though. They're freaking Well, they
62:52
shouldn't because it doesn't matter. It's just another boxing so much. I mean
62:56
for everything here. I probably have Steel. Yeah, there's a Steel Series 7H
63:00
fanatic edition. That's my point. Steel Series has been doing it forever. Team
63:04
Team Na'vi uh headset up there. They're
63:07
yellow. Well, no, there's a blue one. There's also a blue one. There's a blue
63:10
one for No, no, that's just a special edition. It's not an esports team. like
63:14
this this whole sponsored thing is like are you going to are you going to like phone up Nike and be like yo Air Jordan
63:19
shoes that's not cool man don't do like sponsored sho I don't know I mean I
63:24
don't think it's a big deal in terms of like I don't care they look good though
63:29
if an esports team you know puts their branding on a peripheral I don't I'm not
63:32
going to buy it I'm also not going to be upset about it yeah I just I mean
63:36
something to something to understand about this guys is that sports teams
63:40
rely on sponsorship esports team sports teams they rely on sponsorship. And
63:45
while frankly a lot of the time I mean it's no secret that there are esports
63:50
players out there that wear the branded headset that their sponsor put on their
63:54
head and then have like IM running underneath them and like just like put
63:59
the cables kind of down their shirts like it is what it is. If you want to
64:04
buy real gear don't buy things based on
64:08
what someone uses on camera. buy things
64:11
based on, you know, what they use off camera or buy things based on what you
64:16
can actually try and you can actually find out works really well for yourself.
64:20
You shouldn't make purchase decisions based on just well, you know, Joe from
64:25
whatever said that it was great. Now, there are exceptions to this. Um, TTERS
64:29
has a couple of mice that I actually feel pretty strongly are are quite cool.
64:33
I forget what they're called now, but there's one there's the white raw one.
64:37
Does that actually have a lot of input on it? Yeah, because I put my hand on the mouse and I went, "Oh, it's made for
64:41
a big Russian dude." I was like, "I can't use this because I'm not a big
64:45
Russian dude." Where that made a lot of sense to me. But rebranding existing
64:49
products, if you don't feel strongly about the color scheme or You were
64:52
thinking white raw. Yeah. Did I say white raw? Sapphira. Yeah. Safhira is
64:55
the mouse. Okay. Okay. Yeah, the white raw Safhira mouse. Um, so I mean, if
65:00
you're just rebranding an existing product, if you think the color scheme is great, then go for it. If you think
65:04
Team Evil Genius is great and you want them to get a small commission on the
65:08
sponsorship, go for it. It's a great way to support someone that you, you know,
65:14
feel strongly deserves the support. That's I think all there really is to
65:17
it. It's uncomplicated. Yeah, they look really nice. Yeah, they look really
65:20
good. The color scheme is really sharp. Like, it looks really good. I actually
65:25
really like the color scheme on that keyboard. Yep. The keyboard looks amazing. Too bad it's uh uh too bad it's
65:30
not Cherry MX sort of something. Yeah. I'm not into the keyboard, but I like
65:34
the It looks good. Yeah, looks great. And if you if you like the switches that
65:38
happen to be on it, then that's like great. You know, the design of the mouse
65:42
pad looks nice. And most my mouse pads are one of those things where it's just
65:45
like, okay, whatever. It's a mouse pad. Um, there's differences. There are
65:48
differences. I personally really prefer QCK's. I won't use anything else. So, I
65:52
guess I shouldn't say it's just a mouse pad, but if you don't already have a
65:56
specific It's just a mouse pad. I will only use this one. If you if you if you
66:01
have a specific mouse if you don't already have a specific mouse pad that you really really like, then it's worth
66:06
a shot because I don't think it comes at a huge premium. Um I' I'd rather Okay,
66:10
here. How about this? I would rather buy a peripheral that's branded around You
66:14
know what, guys? Hit us up on Twitter. Tell us what you think about about
66:18
sponsored branded peripherals. We'd love to hear it because there's tons. There's
66:22
ones for like Modern Warfare 3. Logitech did a Modern Warfare 3 thing. Um,
66:27
there's ones for actual gamers. There's ones for I think that's about it, but I
66:32
was going to try and come up with at least Well, there's there's gaming groups and there's individual gamers.
66:36
That's true. Yeah. So, whole teams. I mean, the thing about particularly the
66:40
whole team branded ones is I kind of look at those and I raise an eyebrow because there's no such thing as two
66:44
gamers. Even on the same team, they're going to be like, "Yeah, I want exactly like that one." You know what? And
66:48
another thing to actually along the lines of gamers who wear IM under their
66:52
their sponsored headphones, um there are the rumors are abundant that Yonx, so if
66:57
you don't follow badminton, you might not have any idea what Yanx is, but that
67:00
Yanx actually makes special rackets for
67:04
their sponsored players that have the the paint job of whatever the current
67:09
high-end thing they're pushing is, but are actually the racket that that player
67:12
likes.
67:16
That's pretty funny. It makes sense. So, it makes sense. You're not gonna you're
67:19
not going to like your professional players that you sponsor by giving them something that they don't
67:23
like, even if it's a great product. There are great products that I just
67:27
don't like. So, it's perfect. And I'm not even going
67:31
to be as picky as a pro gamer. The the one thing that kind of ticks me off all
67:34
the time is stuff like this. Giving the formidable pro gamers at Evil Geniuses
67:38
the fastest, smoothest glide to get the last hit on enemies effectively. It's
67:42
like, shut up. The last hit on enemies
67:45
effectively. Yeah. cuz the smoothest possible glab in your mouse pad is going
67:49
to give you an actual noticeable advantage over some dude with a
67:52
cardboard. No. Like come on. Your last
67:55
hitting things in League like or Dota, whatever. Like geez. But you got to look
68:02
at who it's marketed to. I mean I really feel like there's this divide between
68:06
gamers and hardware enthusiasts where
68:10
gamers I I feel like get lied to a lot
68:13
and I feel like they're they're vulnerable to that. Yeah. Whereas
68:16
hardware enthusiasts spend all their like this is what I used to do. I spent
68:19
all my freaking time reading up about you know the bloody sensors in the mice
68:24
and the you know micro you know laser reflections on the various surfaces to
68:29
the point where I actually have no time for gaming. And that's really where I feel like there is there is room for
68:34
someone to bridge the gap there a little bit. Maybe we should probably try a
68:37
little bit harder to do that where we take some of these products and try and
68:40
talk about sort of reading between the lines of the product marketing because
68:44
quite frankly that mouse and that mouse pad probably provides an excellent
68:48
gaming experience. I haven't used them yet, but I don't think there's going to
68:53
be anything wrong with them. I can't find it, but someone in the chat can
68:57
probably um say the quote, but there's
69:00
one of the JDong is one of the guys on EG and he has a review of I think it was
69:06
their mouse mat and if someone No, I don't want to click on something during
69:09
the stream, but um and like the one guy's like, "Oh yeah, it makes my
69:14
performance better and this gaming thing like stupid regurgitated crap." And then
69:20
there's Jaydong's review and it's like, well, it wasn't as soft and supple as
69:24
10,000 fan girls, but I think it was acceptable. And I was like, yes, there
69:29
you go. See, that's cool. And it was funny. And he's like, yeah, I'm
69:32
sponsored to say this, but here's something funny. Yeah. And then the
69:36
other dude's like, here's something actually realistic that
69:39
I don't mind saying. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Mark says, "I don't care
69:43
where and if it's sponsored, I'll if I won't want to buy it, I'm going to try
69:47
it. I don't care for them. Less stupid logos is better. It's funny you
69:51
mentioned that because it's it's not like it's not going to have a logo on
69:55
it. It just might have an Evil Genius logo instead of a Razor logo. Just food
69:59
for thought. I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily. Usually they're not
70:02
that good and just cost more for the sake of costing more. Um a lot of the
70:05
times they're rebrands of other products. So it's it's whether or not you think that product's good. Although
70:09
sometimes they do like add in five or 10 bucks because I was talking to a
70:14
manufacturer about potentially doing a co-branded line of tech tips product and
70:18
they figured by the time there's you know packaging and uh color changes and
70:24
whatever whatever whatever if I even said I wanted a dollar commission on
70:29
each one that would add about $4 to the end user
70:32
price because the retailer is going to want additional markup there blah blah
70:36
blah this and that. And I was like, "Oh, all right then. That's good to
70:42
know." Sponsorship related products are useful sometimes for different color
70:45
schemes. However, don't like the price premium. I think sponsor branded
70:48
peripherals are cool. I like them, but they're pointless. Buy what you want.
70:52
And that's where I stand. Companies can't sell their product with actual quality. I'm not going to buy it. That's
70:56
interesting. So, you prefer a company to focus on their own brand and sell it
71:01
that. But, but a lot of times they do because it's just the like that 7H. It's
71:06
a 7H. It's just the fanatic edition which has yellow accents. It's still a
71:10
7H though. Yeah, but they're selling you a 7H. Yes, you're buying a different
71:15
version which is like colorized. So, they're still selling you the quality of
71:18
the brand. Lots of love for the idea of better color schemes and supporting your
71:22
favorite teams. Someone says, "Please lick Slick's ear for me, not on
71:27
camera. I buy keyboards for feel and look. Looks good and goes to a team I
71:31
like, then that's great. I have the Fanatic 7H, but I hate Fanatic." All
71:34
right, then. But the color scheme on that headset is outstanding, isn't it,
71:37
Tyler? I think it's a good way to support your favorite teams, even
71:41
though, okay, Matio feels that the quality isn't as good as other products.
71:44
And that is an interesting point because it's going to be difficult with again
71:48
that that cost adder that a sponsorship
71:51
adds to the spending more. Yeah. So, so it's going to be hard to take a top tier
71:55
product like a $160 keyboard and then work in a reasonable amount of the
72:00
margin to give to the esports team and have it not become a $200 keyboard all
72:03
of a sudden. And then it's like, okay, well, now who's going to buy it? But
72:06
then at the same time, like, okay, if if I was going out and buying a if I was
72:11
buying, say, a keyboard and I knew exactly what keyboard I wanted and there
72:15
was a 5 or $10 more variant that had say
72:19
um EG on it and it was colorized like that, I'd probably go for it. One, I
72:24
like Team EG. We have over 6,000 viewers. I think that's a new record. That is actually really cool. One, I
72:28
really like Team EG. I like a lot of the guys on the team. In Control is really
72:32
cool. Um, Jaydong's really cool. Huck's
72:35
really cool. Like I I like a lot of the guys on the team and it looked so cool.
72:38
Yep. I would play I would pay enough for just the recolorization in itself. So,
72:43
Christian says, "The way I see it, if a big notorious company like Audio
72:46
Technica started sponsoring themselves, then I'd be more skeptical." I'm afraid
72:50
I don't quite understand. Uh, John Port says he bought an OCZ Fatality Series
72:54
power supply, but I think it's the same as the original except with a sticker. Yes. And a red LED light. That's the
72:59
point, though. Yeah. Yeah. The red LED is cool. Doesn't it also come with
73:03
sleeving? Does a normal one? That's the Fatality 1000. Only the 1000 does
73:06
individual sleeving. That was the first one to do individual sleeving. Speaking of OCZ going out of business, I always
73:12
thought pro gamers wearing earphones under their headset was purely for isolation. Um, you can get headphones
73:17
that isolate pretty well.
73:20
That's a thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's like Bose Quiet Comfort 35. Hey, Brandon,
73:26
what? Those are really good. What headphones do you have?
73:30
QC15s rather. Sorry. Like you put them on and you're just like, "Oh, where'd
73:34
everybody go?" Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I'll like yell at him from the door and
73:38
he can't hear me. Well, that's probably him just ignoring you. No, he doesn't
73:41
ignore me. He ignores me. I don't mind that. I Hey, all the Every Fanatic
73:46
Edition 7 Oh, I think that's the same guy. I thought everyone who owned a 7H
73:51
fanatic in the world was watching our stream. Hey, I like Fanatic, too.
73:54
They're really cool. Yeah, Tiger Woods use Counter Strike for the win. I don't mind them personally, but I won't buy
73:58
them at full price. Actually, that's funny you should mention that because Logitech always clears out the Modern
74:03
Warfare branded peripherals for super cheap. You could get G9Xs for like 29
74:07
bucks if they're Modern Warfare. Great mouse. I wish I bought like a half a
74:11
dozen of them. You can uh wrap them, too. Vinyl wrap them. I've seen people
74:15
vinyl wrap G9Xs. Looks really cool. Awesome. So, if you like don't like
74:19
Modern Warfare, you can still buy a cheap Modern Warfare peripheral and then vinyl wrap it and it's it's fine. All
74:24
right, I'm going to let you take this one. Star Citizen cracks 32 million is
74:28
the uh so is the name of the thread and
74:31
then it was $31 million the day before
74:35
and the original poster a skew is saying
74:38
I don't understand why this game has raised so much cash it's ship reselling
74:42
it it's ship reselling 100% so for so for a while there and why this burst
74:46
happened I I'll get into why the burst happened because if you look at the
74:49
trending it's already trending down um in a second but why they're actually
74:54
making so money is they're selling large components in the game already. And the
74:59
problem I have with this is that we cannot fly in the game yet. We cannot
75:03
feel flight mechanics in any way of all these different ships. Yet, they're
75:06
selling tons of them and they're hyping it like crazy. And one thing that bugs
75:09
me, too, is they're hitting milestones and these multi-million dollar
75:13
milestones are like, "Look, more ships that you can buy right now." So, they're
75:18
getting more money, which is kind of bugging me. And they shut down the LTI
75:22
system, which is lifetime insurance system, which a lot of the Kickstarter
75:25
backers got. And I think if you backed early enough after the Kickstarter
75:29
thing, I think you might have been able to get it, too. I'm not sure. Probably explain what lifetime insurance is.
75:33
Lifetime Well, you can't lose your ship. You can't lose the hull. Yeah, you can
75:37
lose like the weapons and cargo and whatnot. Yeah, but you can't lose the
75:41
hull, so you can like fix it back up again, which is really nice. So, they
75:44
got rid of that, but they got rid of that before you're able to fly the ships
75:47
yet. Yeah, you're not able to fly the ships or try them out yet, which I'm
75:50
okay with. I don't want everyone having insurance. I want there to be like when I'm like one of the Kickstarter back get
75:56
it anymore. You can't buy in to be able to have it anymore. But um but no,
76:01
that's been like that for a while. Old accounts have been able to buy ships that have If people want to like if
76:05
people want to, you know, buy a bunch of ships or whatever and I can blow them up
76:10
later, then whatever. But then they'll be on LTI, so it doesn't really matter.
76:14
No, no, the ones that are buying now won't. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's that's what my point is though. That is why
76:18
there was the surge. They took it away. So, right before they took it away,
76:22
everyone went but buy all the stuff. So, there was this like oh my god milestone.
76:26
Oh my god, another milestone immediately afterwards because of that. I'm still
76:30
excited about the game. Me, too. Although we're getting pretty close to
76:33
we should have uh combat soon and we'll see if it I wish I wish they dropped LTI
76:39
like even a week after dog fighting because I've been I poured a little bit
76:43
of money in and I've been really careful since then because it's always like
76:46
there's such a draw like oh my god that ship looks so cool and there's all this cool stuff but then it's like my ship
76:52
might already be good enough for me once I make some modifications to it and
76:56
since I'm just going to be parking it in the back of Linus' ship anyway while we
77:00
fly around together, you know, exploring the universe.
77:04
Yeah, basically. So, like I I just It's going to be awesome. Uh I I wish I could
77:09
fly the ship. Yeah, that's it. I'm I'm really waiting for dog fighting. I think
77:14
Star C is still like 32 million sounds like a lot. GTA 5 cost what? Like $500
77:19
million to make. I don't I think it was 50 or not 500.
77:24
50. GTA 5 budget. Maybe it was 500. Hold
77:28
on. Budget. Budget. Budget. biggest budget ever, etc., etc., etc. Someone
77:32
says cost more than an American city. Here we go. Uh, 265 million. Okay. So,
77:38
yeah, GTA V cost 265 million. They have 32. Yeah. And this game is supposed to
77:43
be way bigger in scale. So, so it's a lot of money, but it's still not an
77:46
insane amount of money. So, when you consider when you consider other things.
77:50
So, I'm a little bit worried, but I think dog fighting can either completely
77:54
make or break it in. And Chris seems like a cool guy. Well, he's so
77:57
dedicated. Yeah, that's why I'm not that worried. I had the opportunity to meet
78:00
him personally, which is kind of cool because mo Yeah, I know.
78:04
Because most uh most Kickstarter projects you find just like it's a it's
78:10
a guess. You don't know the integrity of the person that you're like I'm pretty
78:13
sure Star is going to be fine, but I'm still I'm still kind of staying away from it a little bit until I can fly
78:17
around and then I know that the second I can fly around and it's awesome, I'm going to be like, "Oh my god, I'm so
78:23
excited. I'm so stoked." But I've just I've been trying to stay away from it a
78:26
little Speaking of Kickstarter and flying around, oh, brilliant segueing.
78:30
MGS Star posted on the forum this amazing video about a Kickstarter
78:35
campaign that I had to fund. Look at this thing. It is a smartphone
78:40
controlled paper airplane. So, it's a battery and propeller that goes onto the
78:44
back of a paper airplane that allows you to fly it around with a Bluetooth smart
78:48
enabled smartphone or tablet. So, right now, or actually not right now because
78:51
they have they have busted the Android
78:54
uh stretch goal. So, at the beginning it was iPhone only, but I just kind of went
78:59
for it. I was like, "Yeah, whatever. This is going to destroy the stretch target." So, I'll be I'll be flying this
79:03
around on my Android phone, no problem. But, we just got an iPad Mini anyway.
79:07
So, you'll be able to fly it or we'll be able to fly it and try it out. But, uh I
79:11
hope they show it a little bit uh later. Uh on the Kickstarter page, it shows it.
79:15
No, they they show it later in the video, I think. Hold on. We'll just we'll let it keep flying. But, it goes
79:19
for about 10 minutes apparently, and they're going to be shipping them, I think, in March or April next year. It's
79:23
not that expensive when you consider what an RC aircraft costs. It's just a
79:26
30. Like, it's really not that bad. And there's not much to break about it, which is really cool. So, the propeller
79:31
is actually at the back of the plane, which means that if you go down nose
79:34
first into something, it's a lot less likely to cause serious problems for
79:38
you. Although, it's not crash proof. No. As they claim Oh, look at it go. So
79:44
awesome. It's cool how he slows it down when it comes close and he just takes off. I know. I love it. So the original
79:50
article was from uh Tech PowerUp or Tweet Town rather. Tweet Town. Tweet
79:53
Town. Got to make sure we give credit where credit's due. So there it is. So you guys can see there's the uh the
79:58
receiver. So the transmitter will obviously be your phone or tablet. Here
80:01
are the electronics. And then there's just a simple
80:05
um piece, whatever this is called that goes back to a motor and a rudder and a
80:13
propeller. Looks pretty simple. Looks balling. I
80:16
love it. 4,400 backers with 56 days to go. It
80:21
just went up. Amazing. I love how they like crushed their goal. I I I backed
80:28
that so fast. I I actually had no idea
80:31
you backed it. That's kind of cool. Yeah. As soon as I saw it, I was like, "Oh, yeah." Well, I know. I'm pretty
80:34
stoked to try. I love RC crap. Yeah, I know. So, cheap RC crap that's difficult
80:39
to break. It's cool because a lot of the times what's going to get damaged is
80:42
like the wings and stuff. It's like, dude, it's a paper airplane. Let's make
80:45
another one. Exactly. Who cares? It's like you show up at the park with like a
80:49
bunch of spare batteries and like a bunch of paper. No way. Oh, come on. I
80:55
don't know if that really counts.
80:58
They could have been. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Okay, so guys, Black Friday
81:02
deals are cool, but it's not worth people dying over or getting hurt. So,
81:07
there's actually a site called Black Friday Death Count, and uh it's actually
81:12
it's being updated for for Black Friday right now, and it seems to be getting
81:17
worse. Yeah. So, they record all of the injuries and deaths. So, there was that
81:22
I actually remember the Toys R Us shooting. I remember hearing about that back in 2008. Um Target shoppers step
81:27
over Walter Vance as he collapses and dies. I remember that. 20 people injured
81:32
in I think it was um no no it was 10 people injured in a stampede back or
81:36
four people rather 10 10 in the so I remember this one too that was back
81:41
before we really had Black Friday in Canada I was like what what's a black
81:44
Friday it's like I thought it meant that people died
81:49
it wasn't until I worked for a retailer that I that I understood that it's
81:53
supposed to be the first day of the year that retailers are in the black not in
81:56
the red in terms of profitability which it isn't because everyone loses money on
81:59
Black Friday. All right, so injuries and
82:02
deaths this year looks like the longest list yet. So someone shot carrying a TV
82:07
home from Target. There's a brawl sends one police officer to hospital. Virginia
82:12
man stabbed over a parking
82:15
space and you can see the links. So apparently there's been a death now. A
82:19
teen returning home from Black Friday shopping falls asleep at the wheel is killed in the wreck. That one I think
82:24
you could debate whether that's it's a little bit. Yeah, I I would if if he
82:28
camped out like crazy or something. I kind of get it. But like
82:33
Yeah, just buy things online. Hey, like please just go buy things online. Yeah.
82:38
I mean, okay, you saved $40 or even if you saved
82:42
$400, is it really worth it? But
82:46
comparing to online, you're probably not going to save $400. That's true. A lot
82:49
of people have like straight up equivalent Black Friday sales. a lot of great deals online. Like check out
82:53
Amazon. There's some really good sales, you know. I didn't find anything that
82:56
appealing. I saw the um I saw the Audio Technica M50s. Yeah, those were at
83:01
$99.99, I think. Uh Brandon, did you buy those M50? Sold out. They sold out. Did
83:05
you buy those M50s? Yeah. Yeah, Brandon got them. I think they sold out. Ran out
83:10
of stock. I was thinking about it, but um Have you seen Have you heard of um uh
83:15
what is it called? Uh Outlet Amazon. No. If you
83:21
Google Amazon outlets, uh, let me see if I can find it real quick. Amazon
83:27
outlets. And be sure to use our
83:30
affiliate code. Yeah. Linus TechTips-20. So, yeah, if you Google Amazon outlets,
83:34
there's an outlet on Amazon where they're kind of getting rid of stuff and
83:38
they have crazy sales all the time. Really? I haven't even heard of this
83:41
before. Yeah. Well, you go. Apparently, it's a thing. So, there's like men's
83:45
cuff links, for example.
83:49
Yeah. So it's like H. All righty then.
83:52
So moving on to our next topic. Dell is
83:56
teasing. I know. I know. Dell is teasing
84:01
a 4K 24 in monitor. Now you and I have
84:04
had this conversation before. How do you feel about the 24 in size? What? Like
84:09
why why the hell do we not have 2560 by440 or 2560
84:14
x600? Why the hell do we not have that? Because like I went out and I love 24
84:19
in. 24 in is like bam, I'm there with 16x10 24 in like yes like it. But it's
84:26
always been like the best I could get was 1920 x 1200 because it's like yeah
84:30
there's there's no higher resolution that size. Oh wow. I didn't even know it
84:34
was wide gamut. Yeah. 99% Adobe RGB
84:39
coverage. Check my notes, bro. That's like that's equivalent to Okay, so
84:43
that's equivalent in terms of RGB coverage to they're advertising a claim
84:49
delta E of less than two. So this is basically with 1 billion colors. Yeah.
84:54
So this is a 10- bit panel. Yeah. Holy
84:58
crap. Read my notes, dude. Oh, three-year
85:04
warranty. You can get a premium pixel guarantee. Details are unknown for this
85:09
resolution screen, but if it's like the 32 inch of the same res, it'll be a zero
85:13
bright pixel guarantee. Yeah, it's on there. No, it's it's they have one. Holy
85:19
crap. You know, Dell used to be
85:24
such a driver of the LCD industry.
85:28
Remember when Dell was, you know, Dell and Apple were the only ones that had
85:32
the coahones to release a 30-inch monitor? Dell was the only one driving
85:37
things. The 2405 FPW is legendary because it was a great monitor and at a
85:42
fair price. Yeah. No pricing yet. No pricing yet for this one on their
85:46
website officially. I I looked elsewhere. I I did all I did everything
85:50
I could. No pricing. Well, basically I felt like they were asleep at the wheel
85:54
for the last few years. It's like, yeah, here's kind of that one we did and it's
85:57
like kind of different, but like whatever. We made the ID slightly uglier
86:01
looking. Um, sorry about that. But, you know, here's some QC issues with
86:05
revision A1 or A2 or B2 or whatever. Um, this is an opportunity that has been
86:11
waiting for someone to grab it by the horns and place a bloody order for
86:17
panels. Commit and bring it to market and we will show you how much we want
86:22
it. I am really excited about this because it's one thing to talk about
86:25
stupid things like that 50-in or 55 in
86:28
4K TV. You know what? Who cares? It's 30 Hz input and on top of that, the image
86:33
quality, the contrast ratio is apparently terrible. Like just terrible.
86:37
You might as well buy a 1080p. And isn't it like 30 Hz? Yeah. Yeah. 30 Hz only
86:41
because it's HDMI in who cares. So this
86:45
on the other hand, yeah, it's it's made by Dell, so I
86:50
inherently trust it. Yep. Oh, I've I've
86:54
never had a Dell monitor that I've been like, "Oh, wow. That was built poorly."
86:57
My wife's still using our 2405 FTW. I was sitting with you the other day when
87:01
we found the buy, sell, trade thread that I bought by 2405 FPW off of. I left
87:06
the guy feedback in his thread on Red Flag deals. That was what, 2006? I
87:10
thought it was five somewhere around there. Yeah, whatever. Anyway, um so I I
87:17
so I was like, "Oh, wow. That monitor's still working. It's still on my wife's
87:20
desk." Like eight years later, it's starting to fade. I have I have LG
87:25
monitors that have been lasting like I have an LG monitor that got booted in
87:30
the screen really hard while someone was running through my house and it fell
87:34
flat on its back and like got nailed and there's just a little crack thing. The
87:38
rest of the screen has lost no quality and it still works and it's like 10
87:42
years old or something. Did I tell you Rumble knocked over her 2405?
87:46
He jumped on it and knocked it over flat onto the desk just the way he did with
87:50
my 30 in. I'll kill him. I'll kill him if he breaks. If he breaks my 279 Q,
87:55
I'll kill him. Mark my words. I think that's illegal. I'll skin him.
88:00
Wow. I was so mad. That's like not okay. You
88:05
should just lock him out of that room. I'm I'm I'm kidding. I know you're kidding. I mean, if I if I haven't
88:10
killed Rocket yet, I'm not going to kill He's been peeing on the couch again. Not
88:14
just on the couch. All over the window and the blinds. And like, it is such a
88:19
mess to clean up. My mom my mom tried to train my dog to like go to the washroom
88:25
inside on this like mat thing and that was a terrible idea. And it like kind of
88:30
worked but then stopped working and then it was Yeah, it was a mess. She she got
88:34
it a diaper but it won't it won't go in
88:37
the diaper. So she puts the diaper on it
88:41
when it comes inside so it won't go and but then it'll like complain when it
88:44
needs to go. So my mom will take it off and put it outside and then it goes.
88:48
So she can just use one all the time. It's fantastic. I love Chloe. That's
88:52
fantastic. I love Chloe. She's awesome. She's pretty awesome. She's awesome. We
88:56
should totally do a video about your dog.
89:00
Your dog's awesome. His mom is like a
89:03
genius dog trainer. Like genius dog trainer. My dog can'ting. If you lean
89:08
forward, she'll come up and scratch your back. Yeah, I'll do that, too. Thank you. Thank you. That's fantastic. Uh she
89:12
can play the drums on Tupperware. She can put herself in Tupperware. If you
89:16
drop money, she'll grab it and take it to his mom.
89:20
I think my favorite though is when you're like she falls over and she's
89:24
like and even if I do it like she doesn't
89:27
even have to listen to me. I don't have any treats or anything. Yeah. All right. So, moving on to our next topic. And
89:32
she's a Chihuahua. The US government caught pirating military software. It's
89:37
like who else were they going to sell it to if not you? Do you realize what
89:41
you're doing? Well, they didn't catch them because of
89:44
like too many installs. They caught them because they just like talked about how
89:48
many they had installed and they were like, "Wait, what?" They're like, "Yeah." Like, "But you only but you only
89:53
bought. That's not a thing."
89:57
So they So they pirated around
90:02
$250 million worth of software. They
90:06
were sued for the total amount and managed to settle at 50 million because
90:10
we're in the US military and we don't have any money because our government
90:14
shuts down. No, sorry. Sorry. I shouldn't be taking cracks at Americans.
90:18
I love you guys. Um I was more saying like they're just so big and powerful
90:21
that they could probably just be like, "Yeah, this is how much we're paying you." Yeah. And if you don't like it,
90:25
then we'll never buy anything from you again and you won't exist because we're the US military. And that was the thing
90:29
like the a statement came up from the guys that made the software and they're like, "Yep, yep, yep. No, we're still
90:33
working with them in the future. So they they purchased licenses for five
90:38
servers and 150 standalone devices. They ended up installing it on 93 servers and
90:44
over 9,000 standalone devices. Over 9,000.
90:49
Just insane. I absolutely insane.
90:53
Completely offthe-wall. I love it. And it's like, you know, the funny thing is
90:57
the RAIAA and the MPAA are going to run around trying to put people in jail for
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pirate. Like who goes to jail for this? No one. Yeah. No. So,
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and I love how sometimes you get sued for this and you get sued for like way
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more than percentage of worth. No, no, no, no, no. We'll settle for one. Yeah,
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it's okay. Don't worry about it. It's like it's not right. Okay. So, instead
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of us buying uh how many licenses of Creative Cloud do we have? Three, right?
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Brandon, Edel, and then you. So, instead
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of buying three licenses, we should just buy one. And then if Adobe sues us for
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like pirating the rest of our stuff, think, oh, we'll just pay you for one. Yeah, we'll just don't worry about it.
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We paid you for one, so that one fifth, right? That's Yeah, we're paying a
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little bit over one. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. It's all good. We got this. You know, be cool.
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So, speaking of being cool, this is ridiculous. Um, the city of Vancouver,
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that's where we live proudly. Oh, amazing. Van's doorork knobs, which I
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thought was a joke. Like I really did think it was a honestly this this was I
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can't say this on the air but I accidentally scrolled through it. Um so
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the city of Vancouver has amended its building code to outlaw the use of those
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wrist twisting devices in all new construction including private homes.
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Door knobs had already been uh a non a
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non thing in large buildings but the new ruling effective in March will affect
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private homes and large buildings. Uh, however, it will not affect existing
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homes. So, it looks like I will not have to retrofit my house to remove doorork
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knobs. Why do we really? And this is
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from the star the star.com. I kind of get it for public buildings. I don't
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really understand banning it for private
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housing. I mean, I and the funny thing
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is like people praising it like there's a quote from a professor professor
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specializing in universal design. That's very progressive of Vancouver. Levers
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make access easier. Levers. I'm sorry.
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No, never mind. Yeah, levers. So, so I mean, we're not banning having things on
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doors. Like, levers are still okay. And I will say that yes, I do indeed think
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that levers are easier to use. However,
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why ban them? It just seems excessive. I I do get it
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for public buildings. Yeah, okay. I get that accessibility, what not? What? But
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like if someone's like, "I really want to have doorork knobs on my own house,"
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they should be able to probably put doorork knobs. So yeah, I just I just
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you Why are we wasting energy on this? The doororknob. Okay, so there's people
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saying, "I say good riddance. It never functioned well," explains Jerry. I
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don't view it as a good piece of design. Okay. And then someone else is like,
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"Uh, blah blah blah. I I have a strong feeling about the hardware. Doorork
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knobs are lovely. They're the jewelry of the door." Like, you know what? everyone
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just it doesn't matter so much that the
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the reason why I'm surprised by it and kind of like what the hell is why anyone
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bothered to do anything about it. I'm not necessarily that mad that it changed
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if I bought a new house and it's like oh there aren't doorork knobs. That's okay.
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Probably my house doesn't have have doorork knobs. I had to think about it.
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Oh, good point. I don't know if my parents does. There is one. The external
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garage uses a doorork knob. Okay. So, I would have to I would have to not have
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that there. Yes, we have at least one. Yes. I don't know if our front door does
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at my parents house, but the garage door does, just like yours. Does it matter?
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No. People freaking out over Google Glass again. Speaking of which, I just
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got mine. If you watched Net Daily today, then you'll have seen that. Have
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you had anyone? No one's even noticed. I
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went to a movie theater with them. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of No one gave any
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cares. So, it was the same guy as last time,
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but he's banned it from his diner. He's asked people to remove the $1,500
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headset or leave.
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Um, so it's the same guy. You remember
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the like bar or whatever? The pub. The same owner owns this place. Yep. So like
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it's not that surprising. I mean, okay. Blah blah blah. It's about how much the
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guy freaked out is hilarious. Oh my god, if he doesn't want
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to lose my continued revenue, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's like,
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settle down. Go somewhere else. Yeah, I think it's off. It's going to get more
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interesting when prescription Google Glass is a thing. Um, you know, it's
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like, "Yeah, I need you to take off your prescription glasses or you can't come in here." You can't see if I take them
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off. Yeah, they're so uncomfortable.
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They're like super uncomfortable. Detachable. That would be kind of cool.
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But then maybe that would add um build quality problems. Yeah.
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I don't know, man. Well, I think that's pretty much it for
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this week. Thank Oh, do you have uh build bugs? I do not. You do not build
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bugs. Okay, thank you guys very much for watching the WAN Show today. Big thanks
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to our special guest, Kyle from New Egg TV. And thank you guys for watching. I
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think I already said that once. It's a good thing we're not keeping on going because we're going to have a repeat of
95:55
last week and I don't think anyone wants to see that. Peace out guys and we'll
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see you again next week. If you tuned in late guys, we will have the archive up
96:02
in a timely manner today because we didn't have any technical difficulties.
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I I want to take a moment to explain why the archive takes so long to put up
96:10
sometimes. It has to do with um any
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technical issues during the stream that cause us to have to take the footage and
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convert it from variable frame rate footage to non-variable frame rate
96:22
footage, then cut it back together, re-export it, then re-upload it in order
96:26
to not lose an enormous amount of quality in that process. We have to
96:30
output extremely large files. And because the show is so long, it's really
96:34
a timeconuming both for the export and for the upload. So by the time it's
96:38
actually up, it's like midday Saturday and we like have things to do. Yeah. And
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then I can't really make the time stamps below it because I'm out doing stuff or
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whatever. It's just it becomes a massive but when it can go up right away then
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we'll get it up right away. Thanks guys. Speaking of one thing before we leave,
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actually speaking of the variable frame rate problem, a lot of people have been
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talking about Shadow Play lately and been trying to use it and having problems editing videos like we did. Oh,
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it's that. Is it variable frame rate recording? It's variable frame rate
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recording. I think I've read a bunch of stuff on it and apparently one of the ways you can fix it is by converting it
97:11
in programs like Handbreak. Okay. But then I have people that have found that
97:15
that's not really helping and stuff because if you pull Shadow Play, if you
97:19
watch Shadow Play footage in something like Windows Media Player, it's perfect. But then if you try to edit it in
97:24
something like Premiere, the audio and video become unaligned. If you watch my
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Battlefield 4 graphics cards comparison,
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that's exactly what used to happen with Wancho. Yeah. If and if you watch the
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Yeah, exactly. So, like I wonder if that's it. You know what, guys? Um, for
97:39
anyone who's been struggling with this with Shadow Play, I'm gonna go ahead.
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I'm gonna find out if there's a way to uh you know, maybe I'll just tweet this
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out, but I'll I'll tweet out the uh the video that I use as my guide every time,
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embarrassingly enough. I can never remember how to do it, but I use as my
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guide for how to how to fix that problem. It actually only takes um a
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couple minutes to reync things. So, I think it's in my favorite my favorite
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videos, but it's awesome. Here it is. It only has 10,000 views, which means not
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enough people are watching it. Or here, actually, I can just show you guys what
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it's called. There. So, it's tutorial convert LV to MP4, no re-encode, and
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fixed XSplit sync problems. So, guys,
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watch that. It's everything you need to know, and it's completely free. All
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right, peace out guys. See you next week. Thanks, guys. See you.