Welcome to the WAN Show, guys. The show where our professionalism is your
biggest concern because it certainly isn't ours. Sorry, I'm eating again on
the show. I know this is something that you guys prefer that I don't do, but quite frankly, I've had nothing but like
a cup of oatmeal since early this morning. So, I had that one tquito.
These are disgusting, by the way. I know. Thank you for giving it to me, though. The best part is they're not
super bad if you cook them in the oven, but then it takes half an hour and we
had five minutes. I'd rather be disgusted than dead, I suppose. I
appreciate that. Yeah. So guys, we've got a lot of great topics for you today.
First of all, our special guest is Kyle from Awesome Sauce News, or New Egg, I
guess, is the other place he is from. Um, we've also got some pretty
interesting crowdfunding news. Star Citizen just keeps on trucking. So, they
hit $31 million of funding on the 25th
and then $32 million of funding on the
26th of November. So, it's uh still
rolling over there. We've also got some exciting new developments with respect
to up Qualcomm's upcoming Snapdragon 805
CPU. Um they're making some improvements to the CPU itself, but much of the
improvement looks like it's going to be coming on the graphics side of things. I
think I already said Kyle from Newegg will join us, so I'm going a little out of order here, but what are your topics
to introduce? We have 24in 4K panels on
the way from Dell, which are an IPS variant. We don't personally, but if
anyone from Dell's watching, then we we should we should have some I really want
one of those mon cuz we're super professional. So, you should have us have a look. Exactly. Yeah. He can eat
by the monitor while reviewing it if that's something if that's something
that you guys want. I can demonstrate the um taquito juiciness
um resistance in it. Yes, exactly. Just like I did with the Xperia Z1 where I
went in the bath with it on camera. We won't go in the bath with your monitor.
We won't go in the bath with the monitor. No. U there's also news that
the US military is the biggest pirate of all of them which is absolutely
ridiculous but not that surprising
unfortunately. And then I guess it's like really this is headline news like
large organizations also pirate software. My favorite thing is the scale
at which they pirated because they're Hold on. We'll go into more depth later.
First let's roll the intro. Yeah.
Gross.
All right. So, we're not powered by Razer coms anymore. So, I'm just going to cut that off right there.
But I guess that's like pretty much it.
Thanks for watching, guys. No, let's get right into let's get right
into the Snapdragon 805 here. So, the original articles is from Anont. So,
we're going to go ahead and really the mouse is too far. I can't reach it. The
original article is from Anont. So, they've got a little cool picture of an
adorable dragon as well as a Qualcomm Snapdragon looking chip. I want a pet
dragon. And the main details here is that this
is not so much a revolutionary change. It's more of an evolutionary change. So,
we're going to be getting higher clock speeds up to 2.5 GHz, which is just like
doesn't seem right. It doesn't seem like it should be right. It's like, yeah, we're going to have 2.5 GHz quad cores
in your phone. To be clear, guys, these are not the same kinds of quad cores
that you're going to find in a PlayStation 4 or in a PC or anything
along those lines, but it is definitely a multi-threading monster. They're kind
of adding more more of more of everything.
So, more clock speed, a couple small improvements here and there, but the
main improvements are really going to be on the GPU. So, we're going from Adreno
300 series to Adreno 400 series. there.
It's called going to be called the 420 cuz um cuz no research went into that
name. No, this I'm really in the mood for this snack right now. It's kind of
disgusting though. But anyways, uh some of the other things that you gain is It
was a joke.
Oh wow. That didn't clue in at all. I know. I get it. Mhm. It's And wow, our
start time is 10 minutes after that, too. I know, right? That's kind of
brutal. It's almost like all the stars are aligning. Anyways, you get uh 2.5
Gbits like you already said, 128 bit memory interface, direct 3D 11 class
graphics, and freaking Open CL 1.2 full
profile, which is amazing because as much as guys like AMD are talking about,
okay, we're going to have like Open CL acceleration and you're going to be able
to like batch process Photoshop files because everyone does that, right? Um
you can use OpenCL to accelerate that on something like a phone.
All of a sudden, Open CL is going to make a ton of sense because think of
everything from Instagram filters to you're much more likely to be batch
processing things. Exactly. Way more likely. And you're going to have like
these specific tasks that you perform that are going to be able to take
advantage not only of the improved
performance that Open CL that that GPU compute can provide, but also the fact
that it's going to be lower power consumption. And for something that plugs into my wall, I kind of sit there
and I go, "Yeah, I mean, that's cool. Thank you." You know, it's it's great to
have better power consumption, but at the end of the day, that extra, you
know, couple of watts doesn't make the same difference to me that it does when
my phone's running out of battery, you know, halfway through the day all the
time. Actually, you know what? For all the complaints about Nexus 5, you and
Brandon have not been having problems with battery life, but like all of the
internet has been having problems with battery life. It has not. You know what I think it comes down to? Sorry, I'm
changing gears here. So, I guess that was pretty Oh, okay. No, let's cover the
last thing that's really exciting about Snapdragon 805, and that is the fact
that is going to have not only hardware accelerated H.264 encode and decode, but
also H.265 decode. So, that means again lower
power consumption and the ability to enjoy some truly next generation web
content because H.265 is a much more efficient compression algorithm.
However, it does require more processing
power to decode it. So, if you have hardware that is designed just for that,
we're going to be looking at things like 2 and a halfK or 4K streams that can be
decoded on your phone without a significant power consumption increase.
So, like thumbs up Qualcomm, you guys have gone from zero to absolute hero
just because, you know, a couple other guys were like, "Hey, yeah, we'd also
like a chunk of this this mobile processor market."
No. Bad. They kind of did though. That's
exactly what they did because they weren't moving that fast. No, they weren't. And then all of a sudden, it's
just like they were content to just kind of hang. And nowadays, you look at any
smartphone, it's like, what processors are inside? No, no. What Qualcomm
processor is inside it? Because it's like, oh, well, it could be the Snapdragon 600 or the 800. It could be
clocked at 1.8 G. Oh, no. Maybe 1.9 GHz. HTC1 versus Samsung Galaxy S4. Which one
has the same processor clocked slightly higher? Which one throttles less? Yes,
it's true though. No, it's totally true. There's even like I was reading an
article, this we're going to talk about this later on, but I was reading an article on the Galaxy S5. Mhm. And it
was literally in the thing like, oh, which Qualcomm processor? Yeah, why
don't we get into that? Actually, we might as well. And then maybe we'll bring our special guest on right after
that. So, this is a rumor, guys. So, the
appropriate disclaimers, we are not saying that this is absolute news, but it was posted by you better not on the
forum. And there's going to be apparent like as
if Samsung doesn't already have a
fragmented enough approach to their I mean even their I think their Galaxy
lineup of phones probably contains more phones than anyone else's whole lineup.
The best thing about this one too is there's the premium and the normal one which you're going to get into in a
second and then there's like four different colors I think of each. So, I
couldn't get a confirmation on the colors, but I know there's like a red one and a white one and I think a black
one and I think a blue one. So, the
there's so many. So, the rumors are that the average sort of the the consumer I
mean, remember when the S4 was a flagship device or the S series was
flagship? Now, the S series is like, well, there's a mini one that's like
it's like that but smaller and also much crappier. And then there's going to be a
normal plastic one with an OLED display.
And then there's going to be a premium version sporting a metal case and a
flexible OLED display. And all of these rumors combined together are
interesting. But then there's also the the bombshell rumor. The possibility of
2560x440p, which is like what?
Okay. And a 5.3 in display. As someone who is
getting pretty used to 1080p, I can tell
the difference between the Moto X and the HTC1.
I can, but barely. If we're talking about
significantly, dramatically increasing
that resolution, again, we're going to be talking about making battery life
worse for no apparent reason other than to, you know, have, you know, a
measuring contest. An ARM measuring contest. Third ARM measuring contest.
Wow. You almost made it. I know. I almost made it. So close. You know
what's funny is I was even talking to uh I was talking to Ed today about how you
know oh I've seen a couple of complaints lately about the amount of innuendo on
the show and like apparently someone was upset when I put that Bluetooth speaker
in my pants and talked it to you and I was like hey you're in my pants I read
the thing. Yeah. So um I I I was I
almost made it through that. So I've almost changed
almost almost. Um, so there's the rumor
is there's going to be a 64-bit Exynos, I don't even know how to pronounce that.
Exynos, Xanos, whatever. Anyway, or Snapdragon processor, three or 4 gigs of
RAM, 4,000 mAh battery that's going to be either awesome for battery life or
it's just going to be necessary to drive that display. And there's even some vague
rumors about a retina scanner. So, none of this is confirmed, but big thanks to
you better not for posting news on the Linus Tech Tips forum. Honestly, it's
where I get 90% of my news from these days from the tech world. It's extremely
active. So, you guys should check it out if you That combined with the new hot deal section is actually Hot Deals has
been pretty active so far. It's actually kind of cool. I'm happy it's been working out. We probably should have
done it before. Honestly, guys, we were a little bit afraid that um people were
going to spam it or there was going to be a lot of, hey, I'm, you know,
selling, you know, tickets to my friends
play that you should probably go to. Please. Yeah, there's been a little bit
of that, but we've been working on it. I would like to talk about battery life on
the Nexus 5 cuz my I'm going to film my Nexus 5 review next week. I'm feeling
really comfortable with the device now. I've spent quite a lot of time with it
and I think that the that the issues
some people are having with battery life are being mitigated somewhat by the way
that I use it. So, number one is I I'm
not a super hardcore power user in some ways, but I do get a lot of incoming and
outgoing messages. So, because I have a Pebble and because I've actually just
started using Google Glass, although speaking of battery life, the battery is dead on that, so it's sitting sitting
over there on the charger. Um, because I am able to do a lot of my reading here,
even though I'm hitting it a little bit harder on the Bluetooth side of things.
What I've noticed about the Nexus 5 is that Bluetooth doesn't affect seem to
affect it nearly as much as other devices that I've used. So, this could
be a Kit Kat optimization. I I'm going to look into it a little bit further
before I do my review, but um Bluetooth doesn't seem to hurt it that much.
Number two is I'm not turning my screen on constantly because I'm looking and
reading a lot of my messages on my smartwatch instead of on the device
itself. Number three is that tethering is something that really kills battery
life a lot for me and it doesn't seem to get hit as hard when I'm tethering
either. Like the one just burns through the battery when I'm tethering. But then
that one has problems tethering, does it not? Um, no. It doesn't have problems.
It just burns through the battery and runs really hot. We've had problems connecting to it. You're thinking of the
uh the old one. You're thinking of the iPhone 4. That was the one that never
worked. The one saved us that day at the studio. The X. Oh, okay. I was thinking
of Motor X. Yeah. So, so there's all of those things going for it so far. And
then there's also the fact that it has some pretty smart power saving features.
So, I don't spend maybe a lot I don't
spend much of my time
um how do I explain this? Okay, Wi-Fi
networks whenever you're not in range of them, it can just turn the Wi-Fi off.
So, your GPS will pick up. It'll go, "Okay, you're here. I'm turning my Wi-Fi back on." This is a smart power saving
feature that some previous Android phones had, like the Xperia Z1 had it,
and I was really impressed with the battery life there. But, I feel like that's been saving me a lot of battery
life as well. So, I'm getting through the day very consistently with the Nexus
5. And I think the last thing is that it depends what you're coming from. If I
was coming from the Xperia Z1, which I did use for a while, but it wasn't my
daily driver really. I used it for about 2 and 1 half 3 weeks. Um, coming from
the HTC1, battery life feels okay cuz the one doesn't have fantastic battery
life by any stretch. So, Nexus 5, the complaints about your battery life seem
to be uh a little bit exaggerated in my mind, but I do have plenty of complaints
about the Nexus 5. So stay tuned for my upcoming video. Why don't we bring Kyle
on? Are we ready to rock? Sure. Uh it's a little bit early. A little bit early.
I think we were trying to do a quick show today anyway. So I think he said
he'd be back by now. So we'll see if he's back. We have a a very secret thing
to do after work today and then once we're done, we are going to be uh
telling you guys about it. Sounds like he's under attack by aliens. Yeah. From
1980. Yeah. Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. Sorry.
Hey. How are you? I'm good. How are you? We are just
fantastic. That is a great picture of you that you gave us for your lower
third. Unless that was Edel that picked that out for you. That That might have
been Edel. I got to commend him. Are you on speaker, sir? Yes, I am. Let me
change that for you right now. I didn't realize I was up right now. Thank you.
Sorry, we brought you in a little bit early because we uh we missed the sound
of your voice from the pre-show. How about now? How do I sound? You sound
amazing. Some would say awesome. Some would say that you're Oh, come on. I was
making my way there laboriously.
So, why don't you give a brief introduction of who the devil you are
and what the devil you do and why the devil anyone should care before we go
any further into the show here for those of our audience who haven't heard of
you. Sure. Uh, first of all, you probably shouldn't care too much.
A he's playing the sympathy card.
It it does it does really well. You know, I've checked the metrics on it.
Um, but uh I I am essentially a YouTube
host for Newegg, which channel for
Newegg.com. Great company. I also have my own Yeah, I know. I know. They're NCX
also. Much respect for for them as well. Got to respect your roots. Um, I'm also
a uh a YouTuber on the side. Uh, personally, I have my own channel,
Awesome Sauce News, and I can hear myself right now. Hold on. Why
not? All right. I'm just gonna roll with it. All right. Sweet. Uh, yeah, that's
what I do. I do I do tech unboxings. I do reviews. I do what you do, but on a
much smaller scale with a much smaller army. More of a militia. A militia. All
right. So, why don't we go ahead and move into our first guest topic here.
So, the Oh, okay. So, you work at Newegg. Do you see any
of the sales numbers at all or you are you guessing as much as the rest of us
are? Uh, yes, the latter. They refuse to
let me see anything important. That That is awesome. Okay. Well, have you heard
any scuttlebutt about 290 sales versus 290x sales? No, actually, not at all. I
haven't really looked into it. I haven't really heard too much. I'm kind of in my bubble. Scuttlebutt's a word.
Scuttlebutt. That is a word. I like it.
It means rumors. I know, but you just said scuttlebutt. I know, but it's a
word. I know. It's already up on Urban Dictionary by now. Yeah, it's been 5
seconds. It was already a word. I know it is. I know. I know it's a word. Well,
you know what? It's just hilarious. We're going to go to my screen where uh
Chris Chris XLX Cross posted that the
Radeon R9290 can no longer be flashed.
Now, there was a thing going on for a little while here where folks were able
to buy Radeon R9290s and with a simple
BIOS flash, turn them into R9290X's. It turns out that this was
only from specific batches and only
worked with XFX and power color cards.
So, that was that was all that was going on. So, now 290s can no longer be
unlocked. But what does this tell you guys about the difference between an R9
290 and a 290X?
Um, I'm assuming he cannot hear us now.
Did he me? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. I I thought you said guys. I thought you
were asking the audience now. Oh, no. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you and Luke. Oh, right. Uh, honestly, I I
think it says they're very similar. And for some reason, AMD doesn't want the
290 to be unlocked. um for for monetary reasons, I'm assuming. But I feel like
that kind of defeats the whole purpose of PC building. That's one of the
reasons I love it so much is because we're not forced to deal with a an
all-in-one built console. Uh we like to
tweak and tune our hardware and I feel like that kind of limits that ability.
So, tell me something. Have you bought one of the nextG consoles? No. No, I
have not. Are you planning to? No. No, I'm not. Okay. Give me give me your PC
master race. uh opinion here. Then if you had to buy a console, if someone
took away your PC from you, held a gun to your head, and says you can only have
an Xbox One or a PlayStation 4, that's all you can have. What about a Wii U?
What about a Wii U? I would go with a Wii U. I'd go with a 3DS and play
Pokemon X and Y. Boom. Okay. Kyle's a
man. All right. You know what? I guess I can't actually Men by Wii. Wii are so
underrated. You know what? My My first
allnighter was playing Pokemon. Boom.
back on Game Boy Color. There you go. You can still buy Pokemon. That was my
very first All Nighter. But still, we use Epic. There's a there's some really
good games. I don't know. I agree. All right, fair enough. Honestly, if I had
to pick if I had to pick between the two consoles, I would probably go with the
PS4. Uh just because I was a PS3 guy back in the day and I always had a good
experience with them. My Xbox 360 got the red ring and obviously that's not an
issue anymore, but uh I don't know. I feel like the community on the
PlayStation Network was a bit more mature, a little bit on the same page as
me, as opposed to the Xbox 360 kids that were always yelling at me for being a
noob, calling me names.
So, basically, you're saying that the noobs are are more friendly to each
other on the play. So, are you calling PS4 a noob console? No, I'm calling it a
a more downto-earth console. I see.
Okay. So, a little bit less rabid in terms of the fanboyism. Exactly. All
right, let's move on to our next topic here. You actually brought this up with
us. A very a very unfortunate man by the
name of James Howells has lost 4 million
Great Britain pounds worth of bitcoins that were stored on an old hard drive.
Um Kyle, have you invested any money into Bitcoin? No, but I'm really
starting to think I should be. Is it? And yeah, sorry about that. I had uh I
had my stream running. Sorry about that. So, okay. At this point, do you feel
like it's a little bit too late? Um, you know, I think it's never too
late. I think it's later than I would have liked to have, you know, uh, been
interested in the whole thing, but, uh, you never know how much higher it can go
from here, you know. So, um, I I'm
thinking about doing like a Bitcoin mining build, right? You know, maybe for
my channel or something like that. The problem with Bitcoin mining is that it's
gotten to the point where the hardware has stopped getting so much more
powerful so fast and bitcoins have become so difficult to find that unless
you're buying I mean I don't know if you know this but they actually have dedicated boxes maybe you know you know
a little bit more about Yeah. They have dedicated boxes that are just for
Bitcoin mining. That's all they do. It's an appliance. You plug it into a wall and it Bitcoin miners. They're built
specifically for it though and they'll really outpower what else whatever else
you can do pretty much. I feel like I feel like your electricity would
electric sorry the electricity bill would outweigh the money that you'd be
getting from Bitcoin mining because isn't it pretty taxing on your system and just consumes a crap ton of power
from what I've heard. Well, that is the problem that a lot of people had even at
the beginning of Bitcoin was that it wasn't really worth that much. And I I
think the most of the calculations that I saw people doing were okay, here's how
much Bitcoin is worth, here's how much my electricity costs. And they weren't
necessarily factoring in what if Bitcoin is worth a hundred times what it is
today, not that long from now. And so that was the thing that kept a lot of
people from getting into Bitcoin mining. That's honestly the reason that I I
actually set up a mining box and then I was like, "Okay, forget it." One,
there's a few things you can do. You can join a pool because solo mining, it can
take like a year for you to get your own bitcoin block. Um, if you join a pool,
your whole group is calculating towards bitcoins. Then you can get a cut, which
is a good idea. And then for two, you can go to I think it's like bitcoin
calculator.com or just Google bitcoin calculator and you can figure out like
your cost versus your gains and it helps you figure out whether or not it'll be
worth it for you because power around the world is different. So there's two different things to think about. Guys,
we'd love to do a Twitter blip. So, if you have any questions or anything you want to ask Kyle, maybe like what's it
like working with Paul, you know, anything like that, guys, hit us up at
Linus Tech on Twitter and uh let us know if you have any questions for the one
and only Kyle. So, my Google Docs just
randomly signed out for no apparent
reason. So, I have apparently lost my ability to find our next topic here. And
this 680 Ti 6 GB edition. Yeah. Ah, did
you hear about this? You know what? I This is the first time I've heard about
it from that list. What? Actually pretty cool. My favorite part is no TDP unlock
voltages. Mhm. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Holy crap. Cuz 680 Ti is like a
beast card and it has overclocking headroom sitting there. It does. Oh
yeah, it it won't break even if you set
it higher. There's like a few things. Now, do you guys know if this is a new
model that NVIDIA's put out or if this is just a like a barebones 780 Ti that
EVJ has kind of tweaked? Well, what I think has happened here is two things.
Number one is this has got to be EVGA pressing really hard on NVIDIA to give
them the flexibility to deliver the cards that they want to build to their
customers. I I know a couple guys at EVGA and I know how they feel about
stuff like Project Greenlight, which was NVIDIA's program that they put in place
to restrict the board partners' ability to RMA dead cards back to NVIDIA if they
did anything that goes outside of the uh the guidelines with respect to uh power
consumption, voltage, and clock speeds, particularly voltage increases on the
GPU that would cause them to die. So NVIDIA put this green light thing in place that basically went, "Look, do
whatever you want, but don't come crying to us when it dies." And this is both
unreasonable and a little bit just kind of kneecapping in terms of what the
board partners can do because AMD doesn't put the same restrictions in place or at least not ones that are
nearly as restrictive. I mean, they're still like, "Hey, you know, don't do anything phenomenally stupid, but you
have a little bit more flexibility." So for 780 Ti 6 gig here, it looks like
EVGA has pushed NVIDIA to get the green
light on a card that is just going to be
completely balls to the walls unlocked.
The first thing I did when I saw this is I was like, EVGA, I am so sorry that I
haven't finished that Hadron Air unboxing yet. Um, I will do it right
away. I need one of these cards. And they're like, "Yeah, dude.
We'll put you on the list." I'm like, "Yes,
I don't think you knew that." That's all this has been. They're holding the card hostage until you do that video. What
graphics card do you run at home these days? Uh, you know what? Honestly, I
haven't been doing a a huge amount of gaming lately just because I've been so busy, but uh I still have a GTX 670 in
my rig. It's a ASUS Direct CU2. And um
honestly, I I do have like a 770 lying around that I just I don't know why I
haven't installed yet, but um I I probably should. Is it air? Yeah, it's
air. You have no excuse, sir. Yeah, right. Air cooled graphics card upgrade
not happening. No time at all. I know. It's It's It's really just because I
haven't done much gaming at all. Cry yourself to sleep every night. We're
going to go to our Twitter boards here.
All right, guys. So, first up, uh,
what's your main rig? Okay. You know what? Here, why don't you answer Ricardo
here? What is your main rig? So, aside from the graphics card. Okay. Right now,
I'm still a couple generations behind. I've got a Core i7 2600 K. It's
overclocked to 4,400 MHz, which is still about as good as it gets. So, yes. Yeah,
exactly. So, I mean, it's it's doing everything I needed to right now. I'm
just doing a lot of editing and it's handling it beautifully. Render times
could be a bit faster, but uh I am planning on upgrading to an X79 platform
pretty soon. Um, have you have you heard of the Intel? It's like the retail edge
program. Yeah. So, uh, I think they're having a
ridiculous deal on the fourth where you can get a 4930K for what is it like 190
bucks. You know what else I heard about the retail edge program? I heard that I
heard that technically you're not eligible for it. Oh, really? Yeah. I
already I already did my time. I already got 10,000 points, so I got the voucher
for the for the deal. I'm going to call Intel and I'm going to tell them that you don't work at a retail store. How
dare you? I had it for like six years after I worked at one. Yeah, Retail
Edge. I uh Well, did you ever try to claim any any of the deals? Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay. That's unusual cuz I had to when I There's ways to do it. When I
first submitted, I had to submit like Oh, well, I guess you could fake
pasteubs. Yeah. Yeah, I did that a few times. Photoshop is a thing. Yeah, Photoshop. So, I what I used to do Not
that I actually did that. Okay. Wink wink. The second The first time I did
Retail Edge, I did everything legit. I actually went to a live event, so I was
able to bring a payub and like show it to them. Well, okay. It was sort of
legit cuz I also brought my wife and photoshopped one of my old payubs with
her name on it so that I could get two of them.
So she did use Photoshop. So she actually went to the sh Well, I used MS
Paint to be clear. Oh. So she actually went to the event with me and got
validated at the same time. Oh god. Then the second time I wanted something from
Retail Edge, this was back when I wanted like I before I built my current rig, I
always wanted like a RAID card and
multi- SSD setup because I looked at SSD and I went, "Okay, this is perfect
except it's not enough space." So, I was like, "Okay, I'm willing to just drop
all the money." So, I found four co-workers and this was back when each
of them was like $300 or something stupid like that or like 200. Even on
retail edge, it was like $200 or $300. And I got four
X25M 80 gigs, I think, or 160s, I don't
remember. But it was like my second retail edge deal. And so that was the
the illegitimate thing there was I got a bunch of co-workers to sign me over
their accounts so I could do all the quizzes.
Nice. And then uh I don't remember. I
think eventually I just got tired of it because Retail Edge used to be really easy. You could challenge all of the
tests. So, if you knew the answers already, which I usually did because I
had read the Anantech article four months earlier because it's not like
they're showing off the latest stuff on there, then I could just answer all the questions and I was good to go. But now
now they make you like sit and watch stuff, right? Uh, you know what? That's
that's true for some of them. But I noticed that maybe three out of five I
could just go straight to the quiz and get it over with. Maybe they've maybe
they've refined it a little bit. I think like the one or two um quizzes that I
actually had to uh wait to watch that ridiculous tutorial, it was like a
twominute long TV like soap opera type
thing and it was just the cheesiest thing I've ever seen and they made me watch it and I and I failed the test
afterwards cuz I was distracted so I had to watch it again. Oh, it was bad. I got
to go to so many free movies cuz those guys So many free movies. Oh yeah. Nice.
because they'd come by and be like, "Yeah, free Dark Knight screening."
Awesome. Like, all right, I'll go to that. Sounds good. I have no extra
money. I want to see this movie. Awesome. Sweet. I'm still amazed how how
good your MS Paint skills are. I just can't get Yeah, that's actually pretty impressive. No, I couldn't do it. My
wife did it. Not that I did it, but even more impressive.
Someone I I Not that I Yeah, whatever. Um, I had
automatic scripting things that would rewrite the date and I could just uh
snipping tool and pull it in. So, every
single time that I had to change a date, I was just like, done. Took me like 10
seconds. I mean, Intel should have some more security behind that site knowing
that everybody that's applying for it is in the tech industry and is more or less
techsavvy. I know. Easy to hack into that. You would think that. You know,
the funny thing about Retail Edge is I'm not convinced that anywhere near like
probably 20% of the people buying those things are actually putting them in
their own reselling it. All of them. If you check eBay immediately after retail
edge thing is just like swamped with all of it. Mhm. The flipfest. Yeah. It's
ridiculous. Guys, it's going to be a real good time to buy a six core ivy
bridgy real soon here. And it's always like extreme
editions and stuff. So, like people get these theoretically $1,000 process or it
used to be extreme editions all the time. So, people would get like 980X's
and stuff like that and then they'd be like, "Oh, yeah, it's $1,000 processor." And then everyone would like list them
on red flag deals and I'm like, "Uh, you know, overclock.net and they'd be like,
"Ah, $875." People be like, "Yeah, no. That
that and there's like a hundred of you selling that exact chip right now. We we
Yeah, no. See what you're up to. It's pretty
epic. All right. So, how are you guys' uh Thanksgiving? Um, we have Thanksgiving a
month before you. Oh, you're right. Oh
my gosh. I'm such an out of touch American. I know. I know. We're We're
basically We're just your hat to you, aren't we? Yes. Yes, indeed. I wish we
could not mine. I saw this meme and I wish it was true where we could just
have like second Thanksgiving like the hobbits. That would be awesome. Yeah, we
should just inherit the American Thanksgiving. You know what's funny is it only took Okay, Black Friday only
started happening in Canada about 5 years ago. It only took 5 years and now
it's a thing. Yeah. So, if we just started this
second Thanksgiving. Second Thanksgiving. We're thankful that
America Pilgrims Turkey hasn't blown us up yet.
Yeah. Hasn't decided to invade us for a second time. Yeah. I'm really happy
about that. We're glad that we're America's hat and
not America's cup. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, you're not going to last long around here on this here show.
I love you guys. No, I was just in Toronto last weekend to cover an expo
there and everyone was very friendly and I ate a lot of poutine and ketchup
chips. We're from Vancouver, so we're not particularly fond of Toronto either.
Leave some. Oh, wow. You guys know that civil wars within Canada. That's that's
harsh. Yeah. If there was a Canadian Civil War, it would be between like the
Vancouver Conucks and like the Toronto Maple Leafs. Yeah. And there would just
be this like huge walk in between. Yeah. There'd be like there'd be there would
be like an enormous ice rink and then there would be no We wouldn't even We'd
do away with the hockey sticks and the hockey pucks entirely and everyone would
just throw off their gloves and charge at each other. Yeah. That would be like the Canadian Civil War. Then afterwards,
everyone would shake hands and go out for drinks and then it'd be fun. Yeah.
There'd be lots of beer. You all just compliment each other on your fighting skills. Yeah. The the beer would both
enhance the uh the violence and enhance the camaraderie after the violence. Yep,
that's right. Welcome to Canada.
Oh, that's a great place. All right, so Oh, you know what? I guess we didn't actually do much Twitter blitzing here,
so of course I requested, will there ever be a GTX 790? We don't know.
Um, okay. What do you think? Ah, hey
Kyle. I don't know if you've been paying much attention to New Eggs Black Friday deals, but it's gonna be pretty
embarrassing if you hadn't. What do you think was the best New Egg Black Friday
deal so far? Oh. Oh, boy. Yep. Time to
be embarrassing. There's some pretty good stuff. I I looked through the deals
and um I saw like a bunch of little things. Like I wasn't really looking for
straight up PC hardware because I I recently built a system and I I don't
need to spend any more money on that for the next few days. Uh, but I did see a
kilowatt on sale for like 17 bucks. That's not a bad deal. Yeah. And I
totally bought one because they're usually $30, $40 and um there were some
other things like a few tool kits that were just dirt cheap. Not sure. I It
remains to be seen the quality of them, how easily they'll break. Yeah, I bought
the iFixit one and considering the price, I was pretty disappointed with
how it's just a rebranded Chinese tool kit. Right. So, you was afraid of. But I
did see a we we did have a pretty nice TV. Um well actually I've heard mixed
things about it. It's like a Chang Hong TV. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that brand. It's like a Chinese
No, we really haven't. I thought you surprised. Yeah, I thought you were I
thought you were joking. I thought he was making fun of Siki. Yeah, I thought you were I'm not being racist at all. I
thought you were making fun of every Asian brand cuz you can kind of get away with that, right? Um I only only half
the time cuz I'm only half Asian. Ah, okay. The other half I'm I'm being
racist. Is it like a dice roll? Is it like actual 50% random or is it like
specific things? It's It's like 50% Well, okay. I'm a quarter Chinese and a
quarter Thai. Okay. And then and then half like just white. Just obscure
whiteness. I love how that's a thing. Obscure whiteness. You're a white
person. Yeah. What's your heritage? I don't know. Europe
probably. I'm white. I don't have a heritage.
You know what's funny though is in Europe it's totally different and it is a thing. Yeah. Whereas it's just North
America cuz we're this weird like melting pot of whatever culture it all
came from. So we just we make our own culture and we have monster trucks and
you know poutine trucks poutine and maple leaves.
Yeah. Exactly. It's like yeah that's a culture something something like it's
like what are you? I'm Canadian. What's that mean? I don't know. I don't know.
Half Union and half Confederate. I don't know.
So you might say that you have frequent internal conflicts then.
Yes, all the time. But only 100 plus years ago.
I'm an old soul that way.
All right. Um, minus I haven't heard much about DDR4 for a while. It's coming
coming later. I wouldn't hold out on a system upgrade, though. No. And at the
beginning, it's not going to be very good anyways. So, this is a topic. Um,
Kyle, I'm not sure if you'll have much to say about this, but I certainly do.
OCZ filing for bankruptcy. Have you heard about this? Did you see this? No,
I heard about that. It's very sad. It's very sad. I actually have two Vertex 4s
in my system right now and I'm I'm sad that I'm never going to see a Vertex 5.
Are you going to create like a shrine to them? I should. Or maybe I'll sell them
on eBay when they're like really rare and extinct. I doubt that will be I
doubt that'll be a thing. Computer hardware doesn't really that much. Yeah.
Yeah. Unless it's like Apple apparently. Yeah, you're probably right. We even saw
old um Apple iPhone first going on eBay
for like thousands of dollars. Wow. Yeah. kind. Well, no, I don't know if
they were selling, but they were listed.
So, that's that's a thing. So, I'm going to weigh in on the whole OCZ filing for
bankruptcy thing a little bit here. And um guys, I worked with OCZ for a long
time. This time, I'm guys the audience, not guys, you and the other one. See,
that's why that's confusing. I know. I know. So, I worked with OCZ for a long
time. I um I used to be the product manager for OCZ. That's going back
almost about four years now, I think. And there were a lot of warning signs
here. There were a lot of warning signs. I mean, there was stuff going on like
I'd buy inventory at this price and then
by the time, you know, I would work through all that inventory. Not to say
that they weren't selling well, you know, they were selling extremely well for a long time, but like but they
they'd want you to take so much so that they could hit their quarter end and
year-end goals and all that that you take it in and by the time you're selling it, they're giving you instant
rebates and stuff like that that are so high that you know that they lost money
on just the cost of the flash chips alone. Never mind manufacturing and
customer service and shipping. I mean, they would cover the shipping and and
management and all of these commissions for the sales people. I mean, it all adds up to the point where the only way
to keep it going was to keep selling more and more and more and more and more
more volume. And um that was something that with the profit margins that they
were promising to their shareholders, they couldn't do because as long as it
was fine to take investor money and sell every drive at a loss to hit higher and
higher volume targets, it was going to work. But when investors kind of went,
"Hey, you know, you're um burning through all this cash really fast. What
exactly are you doing over there?" Well, they were buying market share and that
uh that wasn't going to fly in the long term. So, when it came time to to try to
make money on the drives, I think what they discovered was that their brand name and their brand strength really
wasn't as strong as they had hoped that it would be. And that by that time, SSD
had gone from being an enthusiast type product to being a commodity type
product. It happened very quickly. Um, in fact, I'd say in the time between
Vertex 2 and onward, SSD went full
commodity. And so trying to release a Vertex 4 and a Vector and trying to to
dress it up and gussy it up and put, you know, maybe they should have put gold heat spreaders on it. They were the
pioneers of putting gold heat spreaders on things to make them sell for more.
Me, too. But you you just weren't able
to do it anymore. And that, I think, ultimately caused their downfall. So
Toshiba is looking at buying the assets which is interesting. I had a lot of
people comment on um something must have been Twitter. Really? Toshiba? They're
really small. No, they're not. No, they're not at all. Toshiba is a flash
manufacturer. In fact, you know what's funny is I had someone make the same
comment about SanDisk and Adata about
their oh well they're really small SSD players. No, they're not. They are
manufacturers which means they're huge which means that they actually make the
drives that smaller companies rebrand. So don't worry, they're okay. Um, so
Toshiba is a step above drive manufacturer. They actually manufacture
nan flash. So they're going to be all right if they do they make SSDs yet? I
don't think they do. But if they acquired OCZ, then that would be very
interesting because Indelinks's controller technology is not bad. It's
good. And Toshiba toggle Nand is among the best out there. So this could be a
match made in heaven.
I like it. Looks like it on Newegg.
Apparently they do have them on Newegg. Oh, out of out of stock though, so I
don't know. They I don't think they've been doing anything for a while. I'm
kind of assuming. Yeah. Like is this SEATA 2 or SATA 3 or what? No, this is
SATA 3. So yeah, they've got one the HDTS. You They could use some branding
on this. HDTS225XZ STA. Yeah. Oh god. Yeah. Yeah.
So they need some help. Sounds like a Lean Lee product. Yeah. You know, Lee
and Lee's that this company that I just I love their products and the quality is
fantastic, but even I can't figure out their product line. I agree. I think
they'd do so much better if they just had some better branding, marketing, and
whatnot. Yeah. Some some co even some coherency to like the positioning of the
products. Like you go on their site and it's just like which case would you
like? Here are all the cases. Yeah. And I'm like well I don't know the
like the one. The gaming one. Like the train one. the train one. This is the
best. I even requested a train a train set. I tried to get one, but I couldn't.
Well, more like you couldn't at a reasonable price. Yeah, cuz they Man,
they were expensive. Yeah, they were. You know what? I actually had a while
back. Um it was a swag item. It was a Lean Lee um dinosaur. So, it was like a
sheet of aluminum and then it had all the pieces and then you assembled it
like you know those dinosaurs that you like put the ribs on the back of the spine and like like you made a little
Lee and Lee aluminum dinosaurs. Awesome. So cool. Yeah, that's fun. I I don't
know what happened to it, but that was one of my favorite swag things that I ever got. Did they Did they call it like
a 95608? You're like, "Dude, it's a Tyrannosaurus
Rex." No, but I'm sure they were I'm sure they
were tempted. All right, what do we got next? Um,
okay. There's a 4K Ultrabook apparently that costs less than $1,400. I think
more than anything that's revealing of how inexpensive 4K displays actually
are. and how manufacturers need to just screw off and just give us our displays
now. I wonder how well that Ultrabook's pushing that display, though. Yeah,
exactly. Kyle, how awesome is your sauce?
Uh, incredibly excellent. Incredulously.
Incredulously awesome. Uh, Jeremy asks, "How to work at Linus Techch or NCIX?"
Um, well, at Linus Techch, we're not hiring, but at NCIX, you could start
with going to ncx.com/careers. I think it is something
like that. Something like that. If not, it's on the if you scroll down to the
bottom of their website, it should be there. I'll find it. Just spam their YouTube channel and pine for a job. They
love that. It's a really good idea. Yeah, that works really well.
How how uh how tempting is it to have all that crazy hardware around you
working at Newegg? Uh it's it's it's really tempting and I feel like I get to
purge some of that anxiety that I feel because I uh because I have my own
YouTube channel. And so sometimes if we're backed up and we don't have time
to look at a product at Newegg, I can take it home and research it by myself
and and shoot a video of it and whatnot. And uh it's also pretty cool because it
lets me look at products more honestly. Um whereas New Egg, you know, we kind of
sell everybody. Uh we have to be fair to all the vendors and we can't really do
reviews um because if if we give a bad
review then no one will buy the product, right? It's a company. So that's that's
the cool thing about having my own channel is that I get to do what you guys do is be really honest with the
product and let them know how you feel about it so that people can actually make a more valid purchasing decision.
Mango juice asks, um, what is it like
working with Paul? Working with Paul is pretty awesome. Um,
he's just like he's exactly how you see him in the videos. I mean, he's not
dressed up at all. He has no hyperextended personality. Um, he's just
a really guy. What's that? I said, "What are you implying exactly?"
That that he's really laid-back and and
relaxed. That some people do have fake personalities on camera perhaps. Well, I
mean, yeah, sometimes sometimes you do, you know, sometimes you you see somebody
on camera and you meet them in person and they're totally different. Uh my old
roommate was like that. But, um Paul
Paul is kind of like a no frrills type guy. He just says it how it is and you
know he's he's not trying to be in the spotlight or trying to be the face of
Newegg. He really just wants to share information with people. Can we go back
and he's like he's a really good teacher. Can we go back to that old roommate for a second? So you said your
roommate kind of put on airs when um over video. So did you actually meet
this roommate over like a like a webcam chat or No, no, this is this is a
roommate that I had in college actually and he had in college. You know the
stories about you know what happens between roommates in college. Please go on. Oh. Uh, you're not okay. I don't
know who that was. But speaking of
college roommates, no, but he he actually was the one that
sparked my interest in YouTube, I guess, and like what a YouTube partner could
be, cuz he was a YouTuber and, you know, he made all these wacky um I guess they
were kind of like tech videos, but he did more like consumer electronic stuff
and uh movies and TV shows, reviews of
that nature. But um he would be just completely wacky all the time and then
you'd talk to him and he's like a really chill, mellow guy and you put a camera on him and he just puts on this whole
act. And uh Paul's like the inverse of that. And I'm I'm probably like
somewhere in between being completely exaggerated and exactly the same as I am
because I'm not interesting enough to just be myself on camera. No one would watch me spice things up. So Paul's
chill enough on on camera and he's so he's the inverse of the other guy. So
basically he it's like he got hit with a horse tranquilizer when he's not on
camera. I mean he he gets excited, you know, a
new product comes in and and like his eyebrows go up like a normal human
being. But uh for the most part he's just a really down to earth guy and he's
super nice. He's lovable. He's like a big teddy bear. He's like the office teddy bear. A if only gave bear hugs.
Let's move into our last topic. Now, I know you haven't had much time for
gaming lately, but how have you been have you been following much of the news
about Steam OS and Steam boxes? Uh, here
and there, but um not I'm not completely versed in it yet. All right, so check
this out. Top War Gamer posted on the forum. Here is I by Power Steam Machine
prototype. Now, they the funny thing about this is they sent an email to me
earlier this week that was like, hush hush, top secret, blah blah blah. we'll
be showing off a Steam Machine prototype at CES. And I'm like, okay. So, I didn't
say anything about it. And then like the next day, it's everywhere and there's
like pictures of it and it's like on end gadget and the Verge. I'm just like, is
it a secret? Is it not a secret? I don't get anyway. To me, it looks like a Wii.
You know what? It kind of look Are you talking about the white one, right, with the different colors? Yeah. Well, the
white it looks like a PlayStation 4 and an Xbox One had a baby. It does not look
like a PS4. It looks like a PS4 got squished up straight. No, it's not. It's
Xbox One. Oh, what? The color is so easy to change. Colors easy to change. Tell
Michael Jackson that.
Good one. I think it is a PS4. They just
put better components in
it. They bought a whole bunch of PS4s. They're just like, "Yeah, no, don't
worry about it." Yeah, whatever. That GPU sucks. You can take out the hard drive, remember? No, we got this. Yeah,
we're going to we're going to put a better one in. Don't worry about it. It's all good. You can you I hear you
can actually flash your PS4 to turn into a Steam box. That would be so epic. That
would be awesome. All right, so we have some known specs. It's going to have a
multi-core AMD CPU. It looks like AMD is just firing on all freaking cylinders
when it comes to design wins lately. That timing. Yeah. It'll have an R9270
GPU, 500 gig hard drive, built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, an integrated power
supply. That'll be a little bit bigger than a PS4, but still smaller than an Xbox One. And comes with Valve's Steam
Controller. And all this is looking to come in around $500. It's cool that I by
Power knows that the X versions are not worth anything. Yeah, I know, right? X
versions. Why do you exist? Why do you exist? You're not as good. All right, so
why don't we do a little a couple more Twitter blitz questions and then I guess we'll have to let you go. We've had you
actually more than half an hour. Sorry about that, Kyle. Oh, it's gone by so
fast. You guys are great. Thank you. A you're you're like he's so nice to us
and then he's self-deprecating. I know. How do you how do you hate this guy? Cuz
I certainly do hate him. I mean Oh yeah, absolutely. He works for the enemy. I'll
kill you. And you're not okay. You don't work there anymore. That's been so
confusing about this stream. Why are you so ra They are a competing YouTube
channel too. And we still do work with the NCX YouTube team very closely. But
you don't work with them. You work with them. And he called me out on
overclocking our graphics card benchmarks. He did it as well. Oh, no he
didn't. No, he did not. It was It was a friendly poke. A friendly poke. That is
That is what I tell my wife. This was not a friendly Sorry. I I can't hold
that together. Dear God. Are we still live? Yes, we
are. Yes, we're still live. So, why don't we move on? Um Kyle, do you have
any thoughts on the ASUS Mars 760, their dual GTX 760 card? Oh god, that's pretty
awesome. I haven't even heard much about it, but I think it's going to be cool
and probably a little overpriced, but that doesn't mean it's any less badass.
You know what? That ASUS should hire you to do their ROG marketing because that
was pretty much it. Yeah, it's going to be cool. Demographic. It's going to be
expensive, but like it's going to be awesome, but it's going to be badass.
It's like, yeah, there you go. There you go. I would Yeah, whatever. They owe me
money.
Uh, I don't know. What what are your thoughts on it? I would rather get two
separate cards or one freaking card. That's what I would rather do. You know,
if they're going to allow um SLI, yes,
quad SLI will be enabled. So, that's that's a little bit unique. Yeah, that's
really cool. I would still rather buy one 780 Ti or two 780 Ti though. Sure.
All right. So, we've got Is it gonna Oh, sorry. Last question. Do you know I'm
just curious myself. Is it going to be on air or they have like a integrated
water cooler? It is air. It's not like the last generation Aries card that had
that builtin uh that builtin liquid cooler. All right, so we got some troll
asking us a question on Twitter here. Which of new eggs elf commercials do you
like the best? Oh god. Wait, are those
are those live yet? Are those already up? I don't know, man. You tell me cuz I
I think this this this guy's kind of trolling us pretty hard here. He's like
sort of a sort of a jackass. I know him. Oh, is it is it
Paul? I guarantee it's Paul. Yeah, it's Paul. Honestly, I haven't even seen all
the elf commercials. I've only seen two of them. One of which all of our voices
are altered. So, me, Jenny, and Paul were all in a a national commercial
that's supposed to be broadcasted on TV like today. Really? Allegedly. Yes.
That's awesome. I mean, they were so ambitious about it. This was last week
and I think our CMO was like, "Hey, I want three national commercials." And
we're like, "Oh, yeah, that sounds great." He's like, "Buy next week."
Like, what? But but we did it. It happened.
And um they they kind of like autotuned our voices to sound like elves. It's
it's pretty awful. But uh I think that was only one of the versions. They might
actually turn around and and if they listen to our requests, they'll they'll
use our real voices cuz they're much sexier.
Wow. I'm actually going to get a kick out of it. I am really excited to see
this because honestly and as much as Okay, I hope no one tells Logan this,
but my favorite video of his that I've ever seen is his Tiger Direct commercial
spot from their from the Have you seen it? Yeah. They're great. I'm I'm going
to see if I can dig this up because it
is so amazing. Like the level of sellout
going on here is just so far beyond like
the real Logan that we that we know and love. Okay, I I don't know if you guys
are going to have audio for this or not, but I'm going to go ahead and screen share with you here. So, here we go.
Here we go. Oh. Oh, hold on. Hold on.
Okay, let's try
again. Oh, this is classic.
You know what? You know what it reminds me of is like those crazy commercials that you see late at night at like 2:00
in the morning. It's like, "Come down to Crazy Girls Television sets. We got the
hottest deals around town." Oh, I love
that. I love that. Oh, Logan. Apparently, there was no sound. I'm
sorry, you guys. There's nothing I can do about it right now. But the point is
it's it's ridiculous. If you search for current Tiger TV commercial spot or
something like that, it comes up. But like that is got to be the most
embarrassing video on the entire internet of uh of our of our favorite of
our favorite buddy Logan there. And you can see the pain behind his eyes the
whole time. Like he knows what kind of commercial he's in. You can see the act
of defiance. He's wearing his Raise the World shirt under his sport coat to like
be like, "Look, I I I I didn't want to
do this. I didn't want to do this, but they made me I had to, but I didn't want
to." It's like Superman like worked there. Worked. But isn't that recent?
No. No, that's old. Yeah, that's old. That's old. I thought that was new.
Yeah. No, that was uh that was amazing. All right, so I think that's pretty much
it. Thank you, Kyle, for joining us. We really appreciate having you on the
show. Thanks for having me on, guys. All right, take care. You, too. Let's jump
directly into these two confusing topics. All right. Yeah, this is uh this
is this is kind of a whackload of weirdness. Yeah. All right. So, this is
actually from the NCIX forums of all places. I'm going to go ahead and screen
share with you guys here. Was posted by Bloody Lunatic and the original article
is from Tech PowerUp. And the rumor is that NVIDIA is working on a GTX Titan
refresh, but like it totally looks like someone
just painted a And I have some reasons for it. Don't those look like silver
fins? No, those look like those look like dark aluminum fins to do. They look
like dark aluminum or shaded. No, I think they look like dark aluminum. I
think you'd have a hard time um changing the texture of the shroud here to make
it like more more dark than it than it
already was. Like I don't know, man. You should see some of the pictures of
people painted Titans. That's some pretty easy stuff to paint. Okay, fair
enough. Like real easy stuff to paint. Okay, hold on. Let's go. But they Okay.
Okay. Okay. When we've seen photoshopped cards in the past though, no
one no one really seems to bother with
uh doing like two chops of it. It's usually like one good Photoshop or
something like that. And they've done two different images of it. No, I mean people have actually painted Titan,
right? Oh, okay. So, you think that this is just a painted Titan? I just I don't
understand why the hell they would release this. I mean, okay, here's It
has a few more CUDA corores. I I guess if we weren't if we didn't have 780 Ti 6
gig cards coming, then this might make sense. Yeah, because then Titan could
still be positioned as the multi-way SLI
6 gig monster. But with EVGA releasing
that Kingpin edition 780 Ti, um it's
like why does this exist? We can tell you guys like okay well it would have
slightly better performance with you know it's full double precision floating
point enabledness but like but I it's
very weird. Yeah, but it doesn't seem like I I kind of I get it. Okay, so if
we had to gamble are you and I going to gamble not a real thing? Probably. But
like it could be. I'm not saying it's not. But I just like I still don't
recommend buying one. No. So, that's a thing because it's going to be so much
money. Yeah, 780 Ti is like right there.
Yeah, I've had quite a few people asking me, should I get a 700 series now or
should I wait until Maxwell? And the answer is unfortunately the same as it
always is, guys, because we don't know.
No idea. I mean, the thing about Maxwell is it should be on a new a new process
node. Um, it should be at least a a
strong step forward in terms of performance. But with what NVIDIA has
done in terms of pricing of new generation cards with the exception of
680 Ti, they've just taken whatever is
out there now and they've taken their cards and they've gone, "Okay, well, this one performs about in between those
two, so here's the pricing." So, it would this one performs better, so
here's the pricing. Yeah. So, it wouldn't it's not like actually I don't
know. It doesn't We can't really say. We could be wrong. They could 8800 GT the
market again. Yeah, they probably won't. I I I kind of doubt it. I think that uh
I think that their their strength right now in terms of graphics card market
share and graphics card perception is such that they don't need to to do that.
So AMD is doing real good though, especially with R9290s, not 290X's, but
290s. 290 is a strong looking card. I got to wonder how profitable it is for them though. That is a bigger die than
7970 and it's selling at pricing that is
pretty near what they were doing 79 what they were doing with 7950 back when that
launched. And then you factor in the fact that it is a more expensive board
to produce because it consumes more power and it is a more expensive cooling
solution because it kicks out more heat like and it and it's a newer it's a
newer design so the yields aren't going to be as high. Like I really got to wonder if if what they're doing right
now isn't just totally crazy town. Yeah. I mean, R9290, big thumbs up. In fact,
we've got something exciting coming, you guys. Our water block for our R9290
arrived. So, we're going to be doing water cooled R9290 versus GTX 780 cuz
those are the closest priced cards that make the most sense. And we're going to
get them both to the point where throttling goes away and we find out
what they're both truly capable of. So, stay tuned for that on Linus Tech Tips.
Actually pretty stoked. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited about that because up
till now I haven't even people It's funny. I get called an NVIDIA fanboy a
lot and I get called an AMD fanboy sometimes, too. It's fine. On our on our
recent video, the uh Can I just rotate depending on what card is released?
Yeah, of course. If there's an AMD release, we're NVIDIA fanboys. And if I
mean, if there's an AMD release, we're AMD fanboys. If there's an NVIDIA release, we're NVIDIA fanboys. So, on
our holiday buyers guide, I had someone asking why I hated on NVIDIA or on AMD
so hard. And I was like, okay, well, two things. Number one is that one out of
our three systems had an AMD CPU in it. Number two is that two out of our three
systems had AMD graphics cards in them. So out of a six possible spots that I
could have assigned to AMD, they got three.
So yeah, in like the three most logical
spots cuz I looked over everything. Yes. So we both agreed on those parts lists.
So if I'm an NVIDIA fanboy, then so is he and so is anyone who looks at things
objectively, I guess. All right, so moving on to our next topic that is like
what the heck was this one even about? I can't even find it right now. The black
uh Titan. No, no, the other one. We already talked about that. Power color releases crazy fan design. It's right
under the Black Titan. Yeah, there it is. Okay, so this thing is ridiculous.
What the heck are they doing? So, it was posted by Brown Ninja on the forum and
it looks perfectly normal. Okay, until you like There's a box. Hold on. Hold
on. Hold on. There's a box. That's normal. Yep. It supports 4K, which is
normal. It's got two fans, which are normal. Oh,
what the heck? What the heck is going on
here? So, we got five big Okay, so first
of all, it looks like instead of being a downdraft cooler towards the heat sink,
it is sucking air from the heat sink. Okay, so there's a couple of advantages
and disadvantages to this. So, advantage number one is that this implementation
can be quieter is my understanding. Although you're gonna have to have a
reasonable shroud on it and stuff like that, blah blah blah. Less turbulence.
But disadvantage. Um, whatever. I think
that's about the only advantage I can come up with. I guess another advantage would that be that it doesn't exhaust
air down towards the PCI Express slot on the motherboard. So, your motherboard
might not run as hot. So, it's going to be pulling air from around it and then
blowing it down towards your other addin cards or something like like Okay. None
of this that's not necessarily an advantage. Okay. Well, why don't I just
say this? Imagine your raid card was there. I'm not overheat. Okay.
So, okay. The other weird thing about it, aside from the fact that it pulls
air through the fins. Oh, right. The So, the disadvantage of pulling air through
the fins is that you can't control the
directionality of the air flow as much. It's going to come in from around the edges where it doesn't actually have to
come through the fins unless they've sealed it extremely well. In which case,
they might as well just turn the fan around because it's the same thing. So then number two weird thing about it is
look at these little baby baby blades right here. I thought they were like
reflections at first and then I was like nope no those are things. Nope. Those
are those are definitely things. So I will be interested. I don't think we
have a power color contact. But this is funny. This is what the OP is like.
Yeah. It kind of reminds me of like of like Nemo Finding Nemo little fins on
like clownfish. So yeah, I guess we'll reserve judgment
on this one for now. There is also some feature that makes it
spin at like basically max fan speed when you turn your computer off. I am so
tired of seeing that feature. It doesn't do anything. It's going to cool down. I
had I had an unboxing I did that someone complained I didn't mention that feature
because it keeps the fan spinning after your system powers down. Blah blah blah.
Increases longevity. Actually, it's been proven that it does nothing for
longevity. It's it's proven. It's done. It's put to rest. We've taken that book,
closed it, and put it away on the shelf and then burned the shelf. It's done. It
doesn't do anything. No. All it does is make your system loud when you turn it
off. Yep. Hooray. Cuz 100% fan speed is like real
loud. Real loud. It doesn't usually go that fast. I can
tell you that much. All right. So, um, we actually had a couple Razer things
this week. So, number one was we had uh the Razer Kraken Forged headphones that
we just released our unboxing of. And number two is that Razer did a press
release about their Evil Genius branded
esports gaming products.
I'm going to let you take this one cuz if you saw my notes on this, I have no
idea why this is a big deal. Me neither. Why are people Okay, good. Thank you.
Why are people freaking out? Well, color schemes are a thing. But like
people are freaking out in like negative ways though. They're freaking Well, they
shouldn't because it doesn't matter. It's just another boxing so much. I mean
for everything here. I probably have Steel. Yeah, there's a Steel Series 7H
fanatic edition. That's my point. Steel Series has been doing it forever. Team
Team Na'vi uh headset up there. They're
yellow. Well, no, there's a blue one. There's also a blue one. There's a blue
one for No, no, that's just a special edition. It's not an esports team. like
this this whole sponsored thing is like are you going to are you going to like phone up Nike and be like yo Air Jordan
shoes that's not cool man don't do like sponsored sho I don't know I mean I
don't think it's a big deal in terms of like I don't care they look good though
if an esports team you know puts their branding on a peripheral I don't I'm not
going to buy it I'm also not going to be upset about it yeah I just I mean
something to something to understand about this guys is that sports teams
rely on sponsorship esports team sports teams they rely on sponsorship. And
while frankly a lot of the time I mean it's no secret that there are esports
players out there that wear the branded headset that their sponsor put on their
head and then have like IM running underneath them and like just like put
the cables kind of down their shirts like it is what it is. If you want to
buy real gear don't buy things based on
what someone uses on camera. buy things
based on, you know, what they use off camera or buy things based on what you
can actually try and you can actually find out works really well for yourself.
You shouldn't make purchase decisions based on just well, you know, Joe from
whatever said that it was great. Now, there are exceptions to this. Um, TTERS
has a couple of mice that I actually feel pretty strongly are are quite cool.
I forget what they're called now, but there's one there's the white raw one.
Does that actually have a lot of input on it? Yeah, because I put my hand on the mouse and I went, "Oh, it's made for
a big Russian dude." I was like, "I can't use this because I'm not a big
Russian dude." Where that made a lot of sense to me. But rebranding existing
products, if you don't feel strongly about the color scheme or You were
thinking white raw. Yeah. Did I say white raw? Sapphira. Yeah. Safhira is
the mouse. Okay. Okay. Yeah, the white raw Safhira mouse. Um, so I mean, if
you're just rebranding an existing product, if you think the color scheme is great, then go for it. If you think
Team Evil Genius is great and you want them to get a small commission on the
sponsorship, go for it. It's a great way to support someone that you, you know,
feel strongly deserves the support. That's I think all there really is to
it. It's uncomplicated. Yeah, they look really nice. Yeah, they look really
good. The color scheme is really sharp. Like, it looks really good. I actually
really like the color scheme on that keyboard. Yep. The keyboard looks amazing. Too bad it's uh uh too bad it's
not Cherry MX sort of something. Yeah. I'm not into the keyboard, but I like
the It looks good. Yeah, looks great. And if you if you like the switches that
happen to be on it, then that's like great. You know, the design of the mouse
pad looks nice. And most my mouse pads are one of those things where it's just
like, okay, whatever. It's a mouse pad. Um, there's differences. There are
differences. I personally really prefer QCK's. I won't use anything else. So, I
guess I shouldn't say it's just a mouse pad, but if you don't already have a
specific It's just a mouse pad. I will only use this one. If you if you if you
have a specific mouse if you don't already have a specific mouse pad that you really really like, then it's worth
a shot because I don't think it comes at a huge premium. Um I' I'd rather Okay,
here. How about this? I would rather buy a peripheral that's branded around You
know what, guys? Hit us up on Twitter. Tell us what you think about about
sponsored branded peripherals. We'd love to hear it because there's tons. There's
ones for like Modern Warfare 3. Logitech did a Modern Warfare 3 thing. Um,
there's ones for actual gamers. There's ones for I think that's about it, but I
was going to try and come up with at least Well, there's there's gaming groups and there's individual gamers.
That's true. Yeah. So, whole teams. I mean, the thing about particularly the
whole team branded ones is I kind of look at those and I raise an eyebrow because there's no such thing as two
gamers. Even on the same team, they're going to be like, "Yeah, I want exactly like that one." You know what? And
another thing to actually along the lines of gamers who wear IM under their
their sponsored headphones, um there are the rumors are abundant that Yonx, so if
you don't follow badminton, you might not have any idea what Yanx is, but that
Yanx actually makes special rackets for
their sponsored players that have the the paint job of whatever the current
high-end thing they're pushing is, but are actually the racket that that player
likes.
That's pretty funny. It makes sense. So, it makes sense. You're not gonna you're
not going to like your professional players that you sponsor by giving them something that they don't
like, even if it's a great product. There are great products that I just
don't like. So, it's perfect. And I'm not even going
to be as picky as a pro gamer. The the one thing that kind of ticks me off all
the time is stuff like this. Giving the formidable pro gamers at Evil Geniuses
the fastest, smoothest glide to get the last hit on enemies effectively. It's
like, shut up. The last hit on enemies
effectively. Yeah. cuz the smoothest possible glab in your mouse pad is going
to give you an actual noticeable advantage over some dude with a
cardboard. No. Like come on. Your last
hitting things in League like or Dota, whatever. Like geez. But you got to look
at who it's marketed to. I mean I really feel like there's this divide between
gamers and hardware enthusiasts where
gamers I I feel like get lied to a lot
and I feel like they're they're vulnerable to that. Yeah. Whereas
hardware enthusiasts spend all their like this is what I used to do. I spent
all my freaking time reading up about you know the bloody sensors in the mice
and the you know micro you know laser reflections on the various surfaces to
the point where I actually have no time for gaming. And that's really where I feel like there is there is room for
someone to bridge the gap there a little bit. Maybe we should probably try a
little bit harder to do that where we take some of these products and try and
talk about sort of reading between the lines of the product marketing because
quite frankly that mouse and that mouse pad probably provides an excellent
gaming experience. I haven't used them yet, but I don't think there's going to
be anything wrong with them. I can't find it, but someone in the chat can
probably um say the quote, but there's
one of the JDong is one of the guys on EG and he has a review of I think it was
their mouse mat and if someone No, I don't want to click on something during
the stream, but um and like the one guy's like, "Oh yeah, it makes my
performance better and this gaming thing like stupid regurgitated crap." And then
there's Jaydong's review and it's like, well, it wasn't as soft and supple as
10,000 fan girls, but I think it was acceptable. And I was like, yes, there
you go. See, that's cool. And it was funny. And he's like, yeah, I'm
sponsored to say this, but here's something funny. Yeah. And then the
other dude's like, here's something actually realistic that
I don't mind saying. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Mark says, "I don't care
where and if it's sponsored, I'll if I won't want to buy it, I'm going to try
it. I don't care for them. Less stupid logos is better. It's funny you
mentioned that because it's it's not like it's not going to have a logo on
it. It just might have an Evil Genius logo instead of a Razor logo. Just food
for thought. I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily. Usually they're not
that good and just cost more for the sake of costing more. Um a lot of the
times they're rebrands of other products. So it's it's whether or not you think that product's good. Although
sometimes they do like add in five or 10 bucks because I was talking to a
manufacturer about potentially doing a co-branded line of tech tips product and
they figured by the time there's you know packaging and uh color changes and
whatever whatever whatever if I even said I wanted a dollar commission on
each one that would add about $4 to the end user
price because the retailer is going to want additional markup there blah blah
blah this and that. And I was like, "Oh, all right then. That's good to
know." Sponsorship related products are useful sometimes for different color
schemes. However, don't like the price premium. I think sponsor branded
peripherals are cool. I like them, but they're pointless. Buy what you want.
And that's where I stand. Companies can't sell their product with actual quality. I'm not going to buy it. That's
interesting. So, you prefer a company to focus on their own brand and sell it
that. But, but a lot of times they do because it's just the like that 7H. It's
a 7H. It's just the fanatic edition which has yellow accents. It's still a
7H though. Yeah, but they're selling you a 7H. Yes, you're buying a different
version which is like colorized. So, they're still selling you the quality of
the brand. Lots of love for the idea of better color schemes and supporting your
favorite teams. Someone says, "Please lick Slick's ear for me, not on
camera. I buy keyboards for feel and look. Looks good and goes to a team I
like, then that's great. I have the Fanatic 7H, but I hate Fanatic." All
right, then. But the color scheme on that headset is outstanding, isn't it,
Tyler? I think it's a good way to support your favorite teams, even
though, okay, Matio feels that the quality isn't as good as other products.
And that is an interesting point because it's going to be difficult with again
that that cost adder that a sponsorship
adds to the spending more. Yeah. So, so it's going to be hard to take a top tier
product like a $160 keyboard and then work in a reasonable amount of the
margin to give to the esports team and have it not become a $200 keyboard all
of a sudden. And then it's like, okay, well, now who's going to buy it? But
then at the same time, like, okay, if if I was going out and buying a if I was
buying, say, a keyboard and I knew exactly what keyboard I wanted and there
was a 5 or $10 more variant that had say
um EG on it and it was colorized like that, I'd probably go for it. One, I
like Team EG. We have over 6,000 viewers. I think that's a new record. That is actually really cool. One, I
really like Team EG. I like a lot of the guys on the team. In Control is really
cool. Um, Jaydong's really cool. Huck's
really cool. Like I I like a lot of the guys on the team and it looked so cool.
Yep. I would play I would pay enough for just the recolorization in itself. So,
Christian says, "The way I see it, if a big notorious company like Audio
Technica started sponsoring themselves, then I'd be more skeptical." I'm afraid
I don't quite understand. Uh, John Port says he bought an OCZ Fatality Series
power supply, but I think it's the same as the original except with a sticker. Yes. And a red LED light. That's the
point, though. Yeah. Yeah. The red LED is cool. Doesn't it also come with
sleeving? Does a normal one? That's the Fatality 1000. Only the 1000 does
individual sleeving. That was the first one to do individual sleeving. Speaking of OCZ going out of business, I always
thought pro gamers wearing earphones under their headset was purely for isolation. Um, you can get headphones
that isolate pretty well.
That's a thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's like Bose Quiet Comfort 35. Hey, Brandon,
what? Those are really good. What headphones do you have?
QC15s rather. Sorry. Like you put them on and you're just like, "Oh, where'd
everybody go?" Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I'll like yell at him from the door and
he can't hear me. Well, that's probably him just ignoring you. No, he doesn't
ignore me. He ignores me. I don't mind that. I Hey, all the Every Fanatic
Edition 7 Oh, I think that's the same guy. I thought everyone who owned a 7H
fanatic in the world was watching our stream. Hey, I like Fanatic, too.
They're really cool. Yeah, Tiger Woods use Counter Strike for the win. I don't mind them personally, but I won't buy
them at full price. Actually, that's funny you should mention that because Logitech always clears out the Modern
Warfare branded peripherals for super cheap. You could get G9Xs for like 29
bucks if they're Modern Warfare. Great mouse. I wish I bought like a half a
dozen of them. You can uh wrap them, too. Vinyl wrap them. I've seen people
vinyl wrap G9Xs. Looks really cool. Awesome. So, if you like don't like
Modern Warfare, you can still buy a cheap Modern Warfare peripheral and then vinyl wrap it and it's it's fine. All
right, I'm going to let you take this one. Star Citizen cracks 32 million is
the uh so is the name of the thread and
then it was $31 million the day before
and the original poster a skew is saying
I don't understand why this game has raised so much cash it's ship reselling
it it's ship reselling 100% so for so for a while there and why this burst
happened I I'll get into why the burst happened because if you look at the
trending it's already trending down um in a second but why they're actually
making so money is they're selling large components in the game already. And the
problem I have with this is that we cannot fly in the game yet. We cannot
feel flight mechanics in any way of all these different ships. Yet, they're
selling tons of them and they're hyping it like crazy. And one thing that bugs
me, too, is they're hitting milestones and these multi-million dollar
milestones are like, "Look, more ships that you can buy right now." So, they're
getting more money, which is kind of bugging me. And they shut down the LTI
system, which is lifetime insurance system, which a lot of the Kickstarter
backers got. And I think if you backed early enough after the Kickstarter
thing, I think you might have been able to get it, too. I'm not sure. Probably explain what lifetime insurance is.
Lifetime Well, you can't lose your ship. You can't lose the hull. Yeah, you can
lose like the weapons and cargo and whatnot. Yeah, but you can't lose the
hull, so you can like fix it back up again, which is really nice. So, they
got rid of that, but they got rid of that before you're able to fly the ships
yet. Yeah, you're not able to fly the ships or try them out yet, which I'm
okay with. I don't want everyone having insurance. I want there to be like when I'm like one of the Kickstarter back get
it anymore. You can't buy in to be able to have it anymore. But um but no,
that's been like that for a while. Old accounts have been able to buy ships that have If people want to like if
people want to, you know, buy a bunch of ships or whatever and I can blow them up
later, then whatever. But then they'll be on LTI, so it doesn't really matter.
No, no, the ones that are buying now won't. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's that's what my point is though. That is why
there was the surge. They took it away. So, right before they took it away,
everyone went but buy all the stuff. So, there was this like oh my god milestone.
Oh my god, another milestone immediately afterwards because of that. I'm still
excited about the game. Me, too. Although we're getting pretty close to
we should have uh combat soon and we'll see if it I wish I wish they dropped LTI
like even a week after dog fighting because I've been I poured a little bit
of money in and I've been really careful since then because it's always like
there's such a draw like oh my god that ship looks so cool and there's all this cool stuff but then it's like my ship
might already be good enough for me once I make some modifications to it and
since I'm just going to be parking it in the back of Linus' ship anyway while we
fly around together, you know, exploring the universe.
Yeah, basically. So, like I I just It's going to be awesome. Uh I I wish I could
fly the ship. Yeah, that's it. I'm I'm really waiting for dog fighting. I think
Star C is still like 32 million sounds like a lot. GTA 5 cost what? Like $500
million to make. I don't I think it was 50 or not 500.
50. GTA 5 budget. Maybe it was 500. Hold
on. Budget. Budget. Budget. biggest budget ever, etc., etc., etc. Someone
says cost more than an American city. Here we go. Uh, 265 million. Okay. So,
yeah, GTA V cost 265 million. They have 32. Yeah. And this game is supposed to
be way bigger in scale. So, so it's a lot of money, but it's still not an
insane amount of money. So, when you consider when you consider other things.
So, I'm a little bit worried, but I think dog fighting can either completely
make or break it in. And Chris seems like a cool guy. Well, he's so
dedicated. Yeah, that's why I'm not that worried. I had the opportunity to meet
him personally, which is kind of cool because mo Yeah, I know.
Because most uh most Kickstarter projects you find just like it's a it's
a guess. You don't know the integrity of the person that you're like I'm pretty
sure Star is going to be fine, but I'm still I'm still kind of staying away from it a little bit until I can fly
around and then I know that the second I can fly around and it's awesome, I'm going to be like, "Oh my god, I'm so
excited. I'm so stoked." But I've just I've been trying to stay away from it a
little Speaking of Kickstarter and flying around, oh, brilliant segueing.
MGS Star posted on the forum this amazing video about a Kickstarter
campaign that I had to fund. Look at this thing. It is a smartphone
controlled paper airplane. So, it's a battery and propeller that goes onto the
back of a paper airplane that allows you to fly it around with a Bluetooth smart
enabled smartphone or tablet. So, right now, or actually not right now because
they have they have busted the Android
uh stretch goal. So, at the beginning it was iPhone only, but I just kind of went
for it. I was like, "Yeah, whatever. This is going to destroy the stretch target." So, I'll be I'll be flying this
around on my Android phone, no problem. But, we just got an iPad Mini anyway.
So, you'll be able to fly it or we'll be able to fly it and try it out. But, uh I
hope they show it a little bit uh later. Uh on the Kickstarter page, it shows it.
No, they they show it later in the video, I think. Hold on. We'll just we'll let it keep flying. But, it goes
for about 10 minutes apparently, and they're going to be shipping them, I think, in March or April next year. It's
not that expensive when you consider what an RC aircraft costs. It's just a
30. Like, it's really not that bad. And there's not much to break about it, which is really cool. So, the propeller
is actually at the back of the plane, which means that if you go down nose
first into something, it's a lot less likely to cause serious problems for
you. Although, it's not crash proof. No. As they claim Oh, look at it go. So
awesome. It's cool how he slows it down when it comes close and he just takes off. I know. I love it. So the original
article was from uh Tech PowerUp or Tweet Town rather. Tweet Town. Tweet
Town. Got to make sure we give credit where credit's due. So there it is. So you guys can see there's the uh the
receiver. So the transmitter will obviously be your phone or tablet. Here
are the electronics. And then there's just a simple
um piece, whatever this is called that goes back to a motor and a rudder and a
propeller. Looks pretty simple. Looks balling. I
love it. 4,400 backers with 56 days to go. It
just went up. Amazing. I love how they like crushed their goal. I I I backed
that so fast. I I actually had no idea
you backed it. That's kind of cool. Yeah. As soon as I saw it, I was like, "Oh, yeah." Well, I know. I'm pretty
stoked to try. I love RC crap. Yeah, I know. So, cheap RC crap that's difficult
to break. It's cool because a lot of the times what's going to get damaged is
like the wings and stuff. It's like, dude, it's a paper airplane. Let's make
another one. Exactly. Who cares? It's like you show up at the park with like a
bunch of spare batteries and like a bunch of paper. No way. Oh, come on. I
don't know if that really counts.
They could have been. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Okay, so guys, Black Friday
deals are cool, but it's not worth people dying over or getting hurt. So,
there's actually a site called Black Friday Death Count, and uh it's actually
it's being updated for for Black Friday right now, and it seems to be getting
worse. Yeah. So, they record all of the injuries and deaths. So, there was that
I actually remember the Toys R Us shooting. I remember hearing about that back in 2008. Um Target shoppers step
over Walter Vance as he collapses and dies. I remember that. 20 people injured
in I think it was um no no it was 10 people injured in a stampede back or
four people rather 10 10 in the so I remember this one too that was back
before we really had Black Friday in Canada I was like what what's a black
Friday it's like I thought it meant that people died
it wasn't until I worked for a retailer that I that I understood that it's
supposed to be the first day of the year that retailers are in the black not in
the red in terms of profitability which it isn't because everyone loses money on
Black Friday. All right, so injuries and
deaths this year looks like the longest list yet. So someone shot carrying a TV
home from Target. There's a brawl sends one police officer to hospital. Virginia
man stabbed over a parking
space and you can see the links. So apparently there's been a death now. A
teen returning home from Black Friday shopping falls asleep at the wheel is killed in the wreck. That one I think
you could debate whether that's it's a little bit. Yeah, I I would if if he
camped out like crazy or something. I kind of get it. But like
Yeah, just buy things online. Hey, like please just go buy things online. Yeah.
I mean, okay, you saved $40 or even if you saved
$400, is it really worth it? But
comparing to online, you're probably not going to save $400. That's true. A lot
of people have like straight up equivalent Black Friday sales. a lot of great deals online. Like check out
Amazon. There's some really good sales, you know. I didn't find anything that
appealing. I saw the um I saw the Audio Technica M50s. Yeah, those were at
$99.99, I think. Uh Brandon, did you buy those M50? Sold out. They sold out. Did
you buy those M50s? Yeah. Yeah, Brandon got them. I think they sold out. Ran out
of stock. I was thinking about it, but um Have you seen Have you heard of um uh
what is it called? Uh Outlet Amazon. No. If you
Google Amazon outlets, uh, let me see if I can find it real quick. Amazon
outlets. And be sure to use our
affiliate code. Yeah. Linus TechTips-20. So, yeah, if you Google Amazon outlets,
there's an outlet on Amazon where they're kind of getting rid of stuff and
they have crazy sales all the time. Really? I haven't even heard of this
before. Yeah. Well, you go. Apparently, it's a thing. So, there's like men's
cuff links, for example.
Yeah. So it's like H. All righty then.
So moving on to our next topic. Dell is
teasing. I know. I know. Dell is teasing
a 4K 24 in monitor. Now you and I have
had this conversation before. How do you feel about the 24 in size? What? Like
why why the hell do we not have 2560 by440 or 2560
x600? Why the hell do we not have that? Because like I went out and I love 24
in. 24 in is like bam, I'm there with 16x10 24 in like yes like it. But it's
always been like the best I could get was 1920 x 1200 because it's like yeah
there's there's no higher resolution that size. Oh wow. I didn't even know it
was wide gamut. Yeah. 99% Adobe RGB
coverage. Check my notes, bro. That's like that's equivalent to Okay, so
that's equivalent in terms of RGB coverage to they're advertising a claim
delta E of less than two. So this is basically with 1 billion colors. Yeah.
So this is a 10- bit panel. Yeah. Holy
crap. Read my notes, dude. Oh, three-year
warranty. You can get a premium pixel guarantee. Details are unknown for this
resolution screen, but if it's like the 32 inch of the same res, it'll be a zero
bright pixel guarantee. Yeah, it's on there. No, it's it's they have one. Holy
crap. You know, Dell used to be
such a driver of the LCD industry.
Remember when Dell was, you know, Dell and Apple were the only ones that had
the coahones to release a 30-inch monitor? Dell was the only one driving
things. The 2405 FPW is legendary because it was a great monitor and at a
fair price. Yeah. No pricing yet. No pricing yet for this one on their
website officially. I I looked elsewhere. I I did all I did everything
I could. No pricing. Well, basically I felt like they were asleep at the wheel
for the last few years. It's like, yeah, here's kind of that one we did and it's
like kind of different, but like whatever. We made the ID slightly uglier
looking. Um, sorry about that. But, you know, here's some QC issues with
revision A1 or A2 or B2 or whatever. Um, this is an opportunity that has been
waiting for someone to grab it by the horns and place a bloody order for
panels. Commit and bring it to market and we will show you how much we want
it. I am really excited about this because it's one thing to talk about
stupid things like that 50-in or 55 in
4K TV. You know what? Who cares? It's 30 Hz input and on top of that, the image
quality, the contrast ratio is apparently terrible. Like just terrible.
You might as well buy a 1080p. And isn't it like 30 Hz? Yeah. Yeah. 30 Hz only
because it's HDMI in who cares. So this
on the other hand, yeah, it's it's made by Dell, so I
inherently trust it. Yep. Oh, I've I've
never had a Dell monitor that I've been like, "Oh, wow. That was built poorly."
My wife's still using our 2405 FTW. I was sitting with you the other day when
we found the buy, sell, trade thread that I bought by 2405 FPW off of. I left
the guy feedback in his thread on Red Flag deals. That was what, 2006? I
thought it was five somewhere around there. Yeah, whatever. Anyway, um so I I
so I was like, "Oh, wow. That monitor's still working. It's still on my wife's
desk." Like eight years later, it's starting to fade. I have I have LG
monitors that have been lasting like I have an LG monitor that got booted in
the screen really hard while someone was running through my house and it fell
flat on its back and like got nailed and there's just a little crack thing. The
rest of the screen has lost no quality and it still works and it's like 10
years old or something. Did I tell you Rumble knocked over her 2405?
He jumped on it and knocked it over flat onto the desk just the way he did with
my 30 in. I'll kill him. I'll kill him if he breaks. If he breaks my 279 Q,
I'll kill him. Mark my words. I think that's illegal. I'll skin him.
Wow. I was so mad. That's like not okay. You
should just lock him out of that room. I'm I'm I'm kidding. I know you're kidding. I mean, if I if I haven't
killed Rocket yet, I'm not going to kill He's been peeing on the couch again. Not
just on the couch. All over the window and the blinds. And like, it is such a
mess to clean up. My mom my mom tried to train my dog to like go to the washroom
inside on this like mat thing and that was a terrible idea. And it like kind of
worked but then stopped working and then it was Yeah, it was a mess. She she got
it a diaper but it won't it won't go in
the diaper. So she puts the diaper on it
when it comes inside so it won't go and but then it'll like complain when it
needs to go. So my mom will take it off and put it outside and then it goes.
So she can just use one all the time. It's fantastic. I love Chloe. That's
fantastic. I love Chloe. She's awesome. She's pretty awesome. She's awesome. We
should totally do a video about your dog.
Your dog's awesome. His mom is like a
genius dog trainer. Like genius dog trainer. My dog can'ting. If you lean
forward, she'll come up and scratch your back. Yeah, I'll do that, too. Thank you. Thank you. That's fantastic. Uh she
can play the drums on Tupperware. She can put herself in Tupperware. If you
drop money, she'll grab it and take it to his mom.
I think my favorite though is when you're like she falls over and she's
like and even if I do it like she doesn't
even have to listen to me. I don't have any treats or anything. Yeah. All right. So, moving on to our next topic. And
she's a Chihuahua. The US government caught pirating military software. It's
like who else were they going to sell it to if not you? Do you realize what
you're doing? Well, they didn't catch them because of
like too many installs. They caught them because they just like talked about how
many they had installed and they were like, "Wait, what?" They're like, "Yeah." Like, "But you only but you only
bought. That's not a thing."
So they So they pirated around
$250 million worth of software. They
were sued for the total amount and managed to settle at 50 million because
we're in the US military and we don't have any money because our government
shuts down. No, sorry. Sorry. I shouldn't be taking cracks at Americans.
I love you guys. Um I was more saying like they're just so big and powerful
that they could probably just be like, "Yeah, this is how much we're paying you." Yeah. And if you don't like it,
then we'll never buy anything from you again and you won't exist because we're the US military. And that was the thing
like the a statement came up from the guys that made the software and they're like, "Yep, yep, yep. No, we're still
working with them in the future. So they they purchased licenses for five
servers and 150 standalone devices. They ended up installing it on 93 servers and
over 9,000 standalone devices. Over 9,000.
Just insane. I absolutely insane.
Completely offthe-wall. I love it. And it's like, you know, the funny thing is
the RAIAA and the MPAA are going to run around trying to put people in jail for
pirate. Like who goes to jail for this? No one. Yeah. No. So,
and I love how sometimes you get sued for this and you get sued for like way
more than percentage of worth. No, no, no, no, no. We'll settle for one. Yeah,
it's okay. Don't worry about it. It's like it's not right. Okay. So, instead
of us buying uh how many licenses of Creative Cloud do we have? Three, right?
Brandon, Edel, and then you. So, instead
of buying three licenses, we should just buy one. And then if Adobe sues us for
like pirating the rest of our stuff, think, oh, we'll just pay you for one. Yeah, we'll just don't worry about it.
We paid you for one, so that one fifth, right? That's Yeah, we're paying a
little bit over one. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. It's all good. We got this. You know, be cool.
So, speaking of being cool, this is ridiculous. Um, the city of Vancouver,
that's where we live proudly. Oh, amazing. Van's doorork knobs, which I
thought was a joke. Like I really did think it was a honestly this this was I
can't say this on the air but I accidentally scrolled through it. Um so
the city of Vancouver has amended its building code to outlaw the use of those
wrist twisting devices in all new construction including private homes.
Door knobs had already been uh a non a
non thing in large buildings but the new ruling effective in March will affect
private homes and large buildings. Uh, however, it will not affect existing
homes. So, it looks like I will not have to retrofit my house to remove doorork
knobs. Why do we really? And this is
from the star the star.com. I kind of get it for public buildings. I don't
really understand banning it for private
housing. I mean, I and the funny thing
is like people praising it like there's a quote from a professor professor
specializing in universal design. That's very progressive of Vancouver. Levers
make access easier. Levers. I'm sorry.
No, never mind. Yeah, levers. So, so I mean, we're not banning having things on
doors. Like, levers are still okay. And I will say that yes, I do indeed think
that levers are easier to use. However,
why ban them? It just seems excessive. I I do get it
for public buildings. Yeah, okay. I get that accessibility, what not? What? But
like if someone's like, "I really want to have doorork knobs on my own house,"
they should be able to probably put doorork knobs. So yeah, I just I just
you Why are we wasting energy on this? The doororknob. Okay, so there's people
saying, "I say good riddance. It never functioned well," explains Jerry. I
don't view it as a good piece of design. Okay. And then someone else is like,
"Uh, blah blah blah. I I have a strong feeling about the hardware. Doorork
knobs are lovely. They're the jewelry of the door." Like, you know what? everyone
just it doesn't matter so much that the
the reason why I'm surprised by it and kind of like what the hell is why anyone
bothered to do anything about it. I'm not necessarily that mad that it changed
if I bought a new house and it's like oh there aren't doorork knobs. That's okay.
Probably my house doesn't have have doorork knobs. I had to think about it.
Oh, good point. I don't know if my parents does. There is one. The external
garage uses a doorork knob. Okay. So, I would have to I would have to not have
that there. Yes, we have at least one. Yes. I don't know if our front door does
at my parents house, but the garage door does, just like yours. Does it matter?
No. People freaking out over Google Glass again. Speaking of which, I just
got mine. If you watched Net Daily today, then you'll have seen that. Have
you had anyone? No one's even noticed. I
went to a movie theater with them. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of No one gave any
cares. So, it was the same guy as last time,
but he's banned it from his diner. He's asked people to remove the $1,500
headset or leave.
Um, so it's the same guy. You remember
the like bar or whatever? The pub. The same owner owns this place. Yep. So like
it's not that surprising. I mean, okay. Blah blah blah. It's about how much the
guy freaked out is hilarious. Oh my god, if he doesn't want
to lose my continued revenue, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's like,
settle down. Go somewhere else. Yeah, I think it's off. It's going to get more
interesting when prescription Google Glass is a thing. Um, you know, it's
like, "Yeah, I need you to take off your prescription glasses or you can't come in here." You can't see if I take them
off. Yeah, they're so uncomfortable.
They're like super uncomfortable. Detachable. That would be kind of cool.
But then maybe that would add um build quality problems. Yeah.
I don't know, man. Well, I think that's pretty much it for
this week. Thank Oh, do you have uh build bugs? I do not. You do not build
bugs. Okay, thank you guys very much for watching the WAN Show today. Big thanks
to our special guest, Kyle from New Egg TV. And thank you guys for watching. I
think I already said that once. It's a good thing we're not keeping on going because we're going to have a repeat of
last week and I don't think anyone wants to see that. Peace out guys and we'll
see you again next week. If you tuned in late guys, we will have the archive up
in a timely manner today because we didn't have any technical difficulties.
I I want to take a moment to explain why the archive takes so long to put up
sometimes. It has to do with um any
technical issues during the stream that cause us to have to take the footage and
convert it from variable frame rate footage to non-variable frame rate
footage, then cut it back together, re-export it, then re-upload it in order
to not lose an enormous amount of quality in that process. We have to
output extremely large files. And because the show is so long, it's really
a timeconuming both for the export and for the upload. So by the time it's
actually up, it's like midday Saturday and we like have things to do. Yeah. And
then I can't really make the time stamps below it because I'm out doing stuff or
whatever. It's just it becomes a massive but when it can go up right away then
we'll get it up right away. Thanks guys. Speaking of one thing before we leave,
actually speaking of the variable frame rate problem, a lot of people have been
talking about Shadow Play lately and been trying to use it and having problems editing videos like we did. Oh,
it's that. Is it variable frame rate recording? It's variable frame rate
recording. I think I've read a bunch of stuff on it and apparently one of the ways you can fix it is by converting it
in programs like Handbreak. Okay. But then I have people that have found that
that's not really helping and stuff because if you pull Shadow Play, if you
watch Shadow Play footage in something like Windows Media Player, it's perfect. But then if you try to edit it in
something like Premiere, the audio and video become unaligned. If you watch my
Battlefield 4 graphics cards comparison,
that's exactly what used to happen with Wancho. Yeah. If and if you watch the
Yeah, exactly. So, like I wonder if that's it. You know what, guys? Um, for
anyone who's been struggling with this with Shadow Play, I'm gonna go ahead.
I'm gonna find out if there's a way to uh you know, maybe I'll just tweet this
out, but I'll I'll tweet out the uh the video that I use as my guide every time,
embarrassingly enough. I can never remember how to do it, but I use as my
guide for how to how to fix that problem. It actually only takes um a
couple minutes to reync things. So, I think it's in my favorite my favorite
videos, but it's awesome. Here it is. It only has 10,000 views, which means not
enough people are watching it. Or here, actually, I can just show you guys what
it's called. There. So, it's tutorial convert LV to MP4, no re-encode, and
fixed XSplit sync problems. So, guys,
watch that. It's everything you need to know, and it's completely free. All
right, peace out guys. See you next week. Thanks, guys. See you.