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Welcome to the WAN Show, guys. The show where our professionalism is your

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biggest concern because it certainly isn't ours. Sorry, I'm eating again on

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the show. I know this is something that you guys prefer that I don't do, but quite frankly, I've had nothing but like

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a cup of oatmeal since early this morning. So, I had that one tquito.

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These are disgusting, by the way. I know. Thank you for giving it to me, though. The best part is they're not

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super bad if you cook them in the oven, but then it takes half an hour and we

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had five minutes. I'd rather be disgusted than dead, I suppose. I

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appreciate that. Yeah. So guys, we've got a lot of great topics for you today.

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First of all, our special guest is Kyle from Awesome Sauce News, or New Egg, I

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guess, is the other place he is from. Um, we've also got some pretty

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interesting crowdfunding news. Star Citizen just keeps on trucking. So, they

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hit $31 million of funding on the 25th

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and then $32 million of funding on the

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26th of November. So, it's uh still

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rolling over there. We've also got some exciting new developments with respect

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to up Qualcomm's upcoming Snapdragon 805

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CPU. Um they're making some improvements to the CPU itself, but much of the

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improvement looks like it's going to be coming on the graphics side of things. I

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think I already said Kyle from Newegg will join us, so I'm going a little out of order here, but what are your topics

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to introduce? We have 24in 4K panels on

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the way from Dell, which are an IPS variant. We don't personally, but if

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anyone from Dell's watching, then we we should we should have some I really want

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one of those mon cuz we're super professional. So, you should have us have a look. Exactly. Yeah. He can eat

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by the monitor while reviewing it if that's something if that's something

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that you guys want. I can demonstrate the um taquito juiciness

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um resistance in it. Yes, exactly. Just like I did with the Xperia Z1 where I

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went in the bath with it on camera. We won't go in the bath with your monitor.

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We won't go in the bath with the monitor. No. U there's also news that

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the US military is the biggest pirate of all of them which is absolutely

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ridiculous but not that surprising

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unfortunately. And then I guess it's like really this is headline news like

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large organizations also pirate software. My favorite thing is the scale

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at which they pirated because they're Hold on. We'll go into more depth later.

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First let's roll the intro. Yeah.

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Gross.

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All right. So, we're not powered by Razer coms anymore. So, I'm just going to cut that off right there.

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But I guess that's like pretty much it.

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Thanks for watching, guys. No, let's get right into let's get right

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into the Snapdragon 805 here. So, the original articles is from Anont. So,

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we're going to go ahead and really the mouse is too far. I can't reach it. The

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original article is from Anont. So, they've got a little cool picture of an

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adorable dragon as well as a Qualcomm Snapdragon looking chip. I want a pet

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dragon. And the main details here is that this

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is not so much a revolutionary change. It's more of an evolutionary change. So,

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we're going to be getting higher clock speeds up to 2.5 GHz, which is just like

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doesn't seem right. It doesn't seem like it should be right. It's like, yeah, we're going to have 2.5 GHz quad cores

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in your phone. To be clear, guys, these are not the same kinds of quad cores

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that you're going to find in a PlayStation 4 or in a PC or anything

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along those lines, but it is definitely a multi-threading monster. They're kind

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of adding more more of more of everything.

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So, more clock speed, a couple small improvements here and there, but the

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main improvements are really going to be on the GPU. So, we're going from Adreno

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300 series to Adreno 400 series. there.

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It's called going to be called the 420 cuz um cuz no research went into that

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name. No, this I'm really in the mood for this snack right now. It's kind of

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disgusting though. But anyways, uh some of the other things that you gain is It

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was a joke.

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Oh wow. That didn't clue in at all. I know. I get it. Mhm. It's And wow, our

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start time is 10 minutes after that, too. I know, right? That's kind of

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brutal. It's almost like all the stars are aligning. Anyways, you get uh 2.5

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Gbits like you already said, 128 bit memory interface, direct 3D 11 class

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graphics, and freaking Open CL 1.2 full

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profile, which is amazing because as much as guys like AMD are talking about,

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okay, we're going to have like Open CL acceleration and you're going to be able

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to like batch process Photoshop files because everyone does that, right? Um

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you can use OpenCL to accelerate that on something like a phone.

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All of a sudden, Open CL is going to make a ton of sense because think of

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everything from Instagram filters to you're much more likely to be batch

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processing things. Exactly. Way more likely. And you're going to have like

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these specific tasks that you perform that are going to be able to take

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advantage not only of the improved

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performance that Open CL that that GPU compute can provide, but also the fact

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that it's going to be lower power consumption. And for something that plugs into my wall, I kind of sit there

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and I go, "Yeah, I mean, that's cool. Thank you." You know, it's it's great to

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have better power consumption, but at the end of the day, that extra, you

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know, couple of watts doesn't make the same difference to me that it does when

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my phone's running out of battery, you know, halfway through the day all the

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time. Actually, you know what? For all the complaints about Nexus 5, you and

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Brandon have not been having problems with battery life, but like all of the

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internet has been having problems with battery life. It has not. You know what I think it comes down to? Sorry, I'm

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changing gears here. So, I guess that was pretty Oh, okay. No, let's cover the

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last thing that's really exciting about Snapdragon 805, and that is the fact

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that is going to have not only hardware accelerated H.264 encode and decode, but

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also H.265 decode. So, that means again lower

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power consumption and the ability to enjoy some truly next generation web

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content because H.265 is a much more efficient compression algorithm.

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However, it does require more processing

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power to decode it. So, if you have hardware that is designed just for that,

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we're going to be looking at things like 2 and a halfK or 4K streams that can be

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decoded on your phone without a significant power consumption increase.

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So, like thumbs up Qualcomm, you guys have gone from zero to absolute hero

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just because, you know, a couple other guys were like, "Hey, yeah, we'd also

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like a chunk of this this mobile processor market."

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No. Bad. They kind of did though. That's

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exactly what they did because they weren't moving that fast. No, they weren't. And then all of a sudden, it's

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just like they were content to just kind of hang. And nowadays, you look at any

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smartphone, it's like, what processors are inside? No, no. What Qualcomm

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processor is inside it? Because it's like, oh, well, it could be the Snapdragon 600 or the 800. It could be

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clocked at 1.8 G. Oh, no. Maybe 1.9 GHz. HTC1 versus Samsung Galaxy S4. Which one

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has the same processor clocked slightly higher? Which one throttles less? Yes,

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it's true though. No, it's totally true. There's even like I was reading an

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article, this we're going to talk about this later on, but I was reading an article on the Galaxy S5. Mhm. And it

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was literally in the thing like, oh, which Qualcomm processor? Yeah, why

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don't we get into that? Actually, we might as well. And then maybe we'll bring our special guest on right after

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that. So, this is a rumor, guys. So, the

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appropriate disclaimers, we are not saying that this is absolute news, but it was posted by you better not on the

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forum. And there's going to be apparent like as

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if Samsung doesn't already have a

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fragmented enough approach to their I mean even their I think their Galaxy

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lineup of phones probably contains more phones than anyone else's whole lineup.

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The best thing about this one too is there's the premium and the normal one which you're going to get into in a

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second and then there's like four different colors I think of each. So, I

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couldn't get a confirmation on the colors, but I know there's like a red one and a white one and I think a black

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one and I think a blue one. So, the

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there's so many. So, the rumors are that the average sort of the the consumer I

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mean, remember when the S4 was a flagship device or the S series was

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flagship? Now, the S series is like, well, there's a mini one that's like

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it's like that but smaller and also much crappier. And then there's going to be a

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normal plastic one with an OLED display.

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And then there's going to be a premium version sporting a metal case and a

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flexible OLED display. And all of these rumors combined together are

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interesting. But then there's also the the bombshell rumor. The possibility of

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2560x440p, which is like what?

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Okay. And a 5.3 in display. As someone who is

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getting pretty used to 1080p, I can tell

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the difference between the Moto X and the HTC1.

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I can, but barely. If we're talking about

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significantly, dramatically increasing

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that resolution, again, we're going to be talking about making battery life

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worse for no apparent reason other than to, you know, have, you know, a

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measuring contest. An ARM measuring contest. Third ARM measuring contest.

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Wow. You almost made it. I know. I almost made it. So close. You know

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what's funny is I was even talking to uh I was talking to Ed today about how you

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know oh I've seen a couple of complaints lately about the amount of innuendo on

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the show and like apparently someone was upset when I put that Bluetooth speaker

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in my pants and talked it to you and I was like hey you're in my pants I read

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the thing. Yeah. So um I I I was I

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almost made it through that. So I've almost changed

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almost almost. Um, so there's the rumor

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is there's going to be a 64-bit Exynos, I don't even know how to pronounce that.

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Exynos, Xanos, whatever. Anyway, or Snapdragon processor, three or 4 gigs of

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RAM, 4,000 mAh battery that's going to be either awesome for battery life or

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it's just going to be necessary to drive that display. And there's even some vague

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rumors about a retina scanner. So, none of this is confirmed, but big thanks to

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you better not for posting news on the Linus Tech Tips forum. Honestly, it's

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where I get 90% of my news from these days from the tech world. It's extremely

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active. So, you guys should check it out if you That combined with the new hot deal section is actually Hot Deals has

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been pretty active so far. It's actually kind of cool. I'm happy it's been working out. We probably should have

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done it before. Honestly, guys, we were a little bit afraid that um people were

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going to spam it or there was going to be a lot of, hey, I'm, you know,

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selling, you know, tickets to my friends

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play that you should probably go to. Please. Yeah, there's been a little bit

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of that, but we've been working on it. I would like to talk about battery life on

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the Nexus 5 cuz my I'm going to film my Nexus 5 review next week. I'm feeling

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really comfortable with the device now. I've spent quite a lot of time with it

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and I think that the that the issues

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some people are having with battery life are being mitigated somewhat by the way

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that I use it. So, number one is I I'm

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not a super hardcore power user in some ways, but I do get a lot of incoming and

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outgoing messages. So, because I have a Pebble and because I've actually just

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started using Google Glass, although speaking of battery life, the battery is dead on that, so it's sitting sitting

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over there on the charger. Um, because I am able to do a lot of my reading here,

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even though I'm hitting it a little bit harder on the Bluetooth side of things.

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What I've noticed about the Nexus 5 is that Bluetooth doesn't affect seem to

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affect it nearly as much as other devices that I've used. So, this could

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be a Kit Kat optimization. I I'm going to look into it a little bit further

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before I do my review, but um Bluetooth doesn't seem to hurt it that much.

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Number two is I'm not turning my screen on constantly because I'm looking and

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reading a lot of my messages on my smartwatch instead of on the device

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itself. Number three is that tethering is something that really kills battery

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life a lot for me and it doesn't seem to get hit as hard when I'm tethering

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either. Like the one just burns through the battery when I'm tethering. But then

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that one has problems tethering, does it not? Um, no. It doesn't have problems.

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It just burns through the battery and runs really hot. We've had problems connecting to it. You're thinking of the

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uh the old one. You're thinking of the iPhone 4. That was the one that never

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worked. The one saved us that day at the studio. The X. Oh, okay. I was thinking

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of Motor X. Yeah. So, so there's all of those things going for it so far. And

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then there's also the fact that it has some pretty smart power saving features.

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So, I don't spend maybe a lot I don't

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spend much of my time

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um how do I explain this? Okay, Wi-Fi

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networks whenever you're not in range of them, it can just turn the Wi-Fi off.

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So, your GPS will pick up. It'll go, "Okay, you're here. I'm turning my Wi-Fi back on." This is a smart power saving

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feature that some previous Android phones had, like the Xperia Z1 had it,

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and I was really impressed with the battery life there. But, I feel like that's been saving me a lot of battery

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life as well. So, I'm getting through the day very consistently with the Nexus

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5. And I think the last thing is that it depends what you're coming from. If I

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was coming from the Xperia Z1, which I did use for a while, but it wasn't my

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daily driver really. I used it for about 2 and 1 half 3 weeks. Um, coming from

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the HTC1, battery life feels okay cuz the one doesn't have fantastic battery

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life by any stretch. So, Nexus 5, the complaints about your battery life seem

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to be uh a little bit exaggerated in my mind, but I do have plenty of complaints

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about the Nexus 5. So stay tuned for my upcoming video. Why don't we bring Kyle

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on? Are we ready to rock? Sure. Uh it's a little bit early. A little bit early.

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I think we were trying to do a quick show today anyway. So I think he said

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he'd be back by now. So we'll see if he's back. We have a a very secret thing

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to do after work today and then once we're done, we are going to be uh

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telling you guys about it. Sounds like he's under attack by aliens. Yeah. From

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1980. Yeah. Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. Sorry.

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Hey. How are you? I'm good. How are you? We are just

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fantastic. That is a great picture of you that you gave us for your lower

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third. Unless that was Edel that picked that out for you. That That might have

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been Edel. I got to commend him. Are you on speaker, sir? Yes, I am. Let me

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change that for you right now. I didn't realize I was up right now. Thank you.

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Sorry, we brought you in a little bit early because we uh we missed the sound

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of your voice from the pre-show. How about now? How do I sound? You sound

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amazing. Some would say awesome. Some would say that you're Oh, come on. I was

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making my way there laboriously.

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So, why don't you give a brief introduction of who the devil you are

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and what the devil you do and why the devil anyone should care before we go

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any further into the show here for those of our audience who haven't heard of

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you. Sure. Uh, first of all, you probably shouldn't care too much.

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A he's playing the sympathy card.

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It it does it does really well. You know, I've checked the metrics on it.

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Um, but uh I I am essentially a YouTube

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host for Newegg, which channel for

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Newegg.com. Great company. I also have my own Yeah, I know. I know. They're NCX

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also. Much respect for for them as well. Got to respect your roots. Um, I'm also

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a uh a YouTuber on the side. Uh, personally, I have my own channel,

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Awesome Sauce News, and I can hear myself right now. Hold on. Why

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not? All right. I'm just gonna roll with it. All right. Sweet. Uh, yeah, that's

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what I do. I do I do tech unboxings. I do reviews. I do what you do, but on a

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much smaller scale with a much smaller army. More of a militia. A militia. All

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right. So, why don't we go ahead and move into our first guest topic here.

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So, the Oh, okay. So, you work at Newegg. Do you see any

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of the sales numbers at all or you are you guessing as much as the rest of us

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are? Uh, yes, the latter. They refuse to

00:16:07.680 --> 00:16:14.720
let me see anything important. That That is awesome. Okay. Well, have you heard

00:16:12.079 --> 00:16:19.759
any scuttlebutt about 290 sales versus 290x sales? No, actually, not at all. I

00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:27.600
haven't really looked into it. I haven't really heard too much. I'm kind of in my bubble. Scuttlebutt's a word.

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Scuttlebutt. That is a word. I like it.

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It means rumors. I know, but you just said scuttlebutt. I know, but it's a

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word. I know. It's already up on Urban Dictionary by now. Yeah, it's been 5

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seconds. It was already a word. I know it is. I know. I know it's a word. Well,

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you know what? It's just hilarious. We're going to go to my screen where uh

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Chris Chris XLX Cross posted that the

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Radeon R9290 can no longer be flashed.

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Now, there was a thing going on for a little while here where folks were able

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to buy Radeon R9290s and with a simple

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BIOS flash, turn them into R9290X's. It turns out that this was

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only from specific batches and only

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worked with XFX and power color cards.

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So, that was that was all that was going on. So, now 290s can no longer be

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unlocked. But what does this tell you guys about the difference between an R9

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290 and a 290X?

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Um, I'm assuming he cannot hear us now.

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Did he me? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. I I thought you said guys. I thought you

00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:43.200
were asking the audience now. Oh, no. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you and Luke. Oh, right. Uh, honestly, I I

00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:48.320
think it says they're very similar. And for some reason, AMD doesn't want the

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290 to be unlocked. um for for monetary reasons, I'm assuming. But I feel like

00:17:50.320 --> 00:17:55.919
that kind of defeats the whole purpose of PC building. That's one of the

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reasons I love it so much is because we're not forced to deal with a an

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all-in-one built console. Uh we like to

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tweak and tune our hardware and I feel like that kind of limits that ability.

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So, tell me something. Have you bought one of the nextG consoles? No. No, I

00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:18.400
have not. Are you planning to? No. No, I'm not. Okay. Give me give me your PC

00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:22.080
master race. uh opinion here. Then if you had to buy a console, if someone

00:18:20.080 --> 00:18:25.760
took away your PC from you, held a gun to your head, and says you can only have

00:18:23.840 --> 00:18:29.520
an Xbox One or a PlayStation 4, that's all you can have. What about a Wii U?

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What about a Wii U? I would go with a Wii U. I'd go with a 3DS and play

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Pokemon X and Y. Boom. Okay. Kyle's a

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man. All right. You know what? I guess I can't actually Men by Wii. Wii are so

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underrated. You know what? My My first

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allnighter was playing Pokemon. Boom.

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back on Game Boy Color. There you go. You can still buy Pokemon. That was my

00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:56.960
very first All Nighter. But still, we use Epic. There's a there's some really

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good games. I don't know. I agree. All right, fair enough. Honestly, if I had

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to pick if I had to pick between the two consoles, I would probably go with the

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PS4. Uh just because I was a PS3 guy back in the day and I always had a good

00:19:05.919 --> 00:19:11.520
experience with them. My Xbox 360 got the red ring and obviously that's not an

00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:14.559
issue anymore, but uh I don't know. I feel like the community on the

00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.880
PlayStation Network was a bit more mature, a little bit on the same page as

00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:23.840
me, as opposed to the Xbox 360 kids that were always yelling at me for being a

00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:25.520
noob, calling me names.

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So, basically, you're saying that the noobs are are more friendly to each

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other on the play. So, are you calling PS4 a noob console? No, I'm calling it a

00:19:31.760 --> 00:19:36.640
a more downto-earth console. I see.

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Okay. So, a little bit less rabid in terms of the fanboyism. Exactly. All

00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:44.000
right, let's move on to our next topic here. You actually brought this up with

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us. A very a very unfortunate man by the

00:19:48.320 --> 00:19:54.960
name of James Howells has lost 4 million

00:19:52.160 --> 00:20:00.000
Great Britain pounds worth of bitcoins that were stored on an old hard drive.

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Um Kyle, have you invested any money into Bitcoin? No, but I'm really

00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:10.720
starting to think I should be. Is it? And yeah, sorry about that. I had uh I

00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:16.400
had my stream running. Sorry about that. So, okay. At this point, do you feel

00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:20.080
like it's a little bit too late? Um, you know, I think it's never too

00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:24.240
late. I think it's later than I would have liked to have, you know, uh, been

00:20:22.320 --> 00:20:29.520
interested in the whole thing, but, uh, you never know how much higher it can go

00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.799
from here, you know. So, um, I I'm

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thinking about doing like a Bitcoin mining build, right? You know, maybe for

00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:39.120
my channel or something like that. The problem with Bitcoin mining is that it's

00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:42.960
gotten to the point where the hardware has stopped getting so much more

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powerful so fast and bitcoins have become so difficult to find that unless

00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:50.799
you're buying I mean I don't know if you know this but they actually have dedicated boxes maybe you know you know

00:20:49.360 --> 00:20:54.640
a little bit more about Yeah. They have dedicated boxes that are just for

00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:58.960
Bitcoin mining. That's all they do. It's an appliance. You plug it into a wall and it Bitcoin miners. They're built

00:20:57.600 --> 00:21:03.840
specifically for it though and they'll really outpower what else whatever else

00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:08.080
you can do pretty much. I feel like I feel like your electricity would

00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:11.280
electric sorry the electricity bill would outweigh the money that you'd be

00:21:09.919 --> 00:21:16.159
getting from Bitcoin mining because isn't it pretty taxing on your system and just consumes a crap ton of power

00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:19.600
from what I've heard. Well, that is the problem that a lot of people had even at

00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:23.600
the beginning of Bitcoin was that it wasn't really worth that much. And I I

00:21:21.360 --> 00:21:27.440
think the most of the calculations that I saw people doing were okay, here's how

00:21:25.679 --> 00:21:32.240
much Bitcoin is worth, here's how much my electricity costs. And they weren't

00:21:29.679 --> 00:21:36.480
necessarily factoring in what if Bitcoin is worth a hundred times what it is

00:21:33.919 --> 00:21:39.200
today, not that long from now. And so that was the thing that kept a lot of

00:21:37.760 --> 00:21:43.520
people from getting into Bitcoin mining. That's honestly the reason that I I

00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:46.880
actually set up a mining box and then I was like, "Okay, forget it." One,

00:21:45.360 --> 00:21:51.159
there's a few things you can do. You can join a pool because solo mining, it can

00:21:49.360 --> 00:21:56.240
take like a year for you to get your own bitcoin block. Um, if you join a pool,

00:21:54.400 --> 00:22:00.000
your whole group is calculating towards bitcoins. Then you can get a cut, which

00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:03.679
is a good idea. And then for two, you can go to I think it's like bitcoin

00:22:01.760 --> 00:22:07.200
calculator.com or just Google bitcoin calculator and you can figure out like

00:22:05.360 --> 00:22:09.840
your cost versus your gains and it helps you figure out whether or not it'll be

00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:14.720
worth it for you because power around the world is different. So there's two different things to think about. Guys,

00:22:13.280 --> 00:22:19.919
we'd love to do a Twitter blip. So, if you have any questions or anything you want to ask Kyle, maybe like what's it

00:22:17.600 --> 00:22:24.720
like working with Paul, you know, anything like that, guys, hit us up at

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:31.159
Linus Tech on Twitter and uh let us know if you have any questions for the one

00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:34.240
and only Kyle. So, my Google Docs just

00:22:31.159 --> 00:22:37.039
randomly signed out for no apparent

00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:43.120
reason. So, I have apparently lost my ability to find our next topic here. And

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this 680 Ti 6 GB edition. Yeah. Ah, did

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you hear about this? You know what? I This is the first time I've heard about

00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:53.360
it from that list. What? Actually pretty cool. My favorite part is no TDP unlock

00:22:51.600 --> 00:22:56.960
voltages. Mhm. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Holy crap. Cuz 680 Ti is like a

00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:02.240
beast card and it has overclocking headroom sitting there. It does. Oh

00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:04.559
yeah, it it won't break even if you set

00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:08.640
it higher. There's like a few things. Now, do you guys know if this is a new

00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:14.000
model that NVIDIA's put out or if this is just a like a barebones 780 Ti that

00:23:11.600 --> 00:23:18.559
EVJ has kind of tweaked? Well, what I think has happened here is two things.

00:23:15.760 --> 00:23:22.960
Number one is this has got to be EVGA pressing really hard on NVIDIA to give

00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:26.200
them the flexibility to deliver the cards that they want to build to their

00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:31.039
customers. I I know a couple guys at EVGA and I know how they feel about

00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:35.919
stuff like Project Greenlight, which was NVIDIA's program that they put in place

00:23:33.360 --> 00:23:41.840
to restrict the board partners' ability to RMA dead cards back to NVIDIA if they

00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:46.720
did anything that goes outside of the uh the guidelines with respect to uh power

00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:50.400
consumption, voltage, and clock speeds, particularly voltage increases on the

00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:54.799
GPU that would cause them to die. So NVIDIA put this green light thing in place that basically went, "Look, do

00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:59.919
whatever you want, but don't come crying to us when it dies." And this is both

00:23:57.320 --> 00:24:03.360
unreasonable and a little bit just kind of kneecapping in terms of what the

00:24:01.919 --> 00:24:08.240
board partners can do because AMD doesn't put the same restrictions in place or at least not ones that are

00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:14.000
nearly as restrictive. I mean, they're still like, "Hey, you know, don't do anything phenomenally stupid, but you

00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:21.039
have a little bit more flexibility." So for 780 Ti 6 gig here, it looks like

00:24:17.840 --> 00:24:24.279
EVGA has pushed NVIDIA to get the green

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light on a card that is just going to be

00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:29.679
completely balls to the walls unlocked.

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The first thing I did when I saw this is I was like, EVGA, I am so sorry that I

00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:39.960
haven't finished that Hadron Air unboxing yet. Um, I will do it right

00:24:37.520 --> 00:24:42.960
away. I need one of these cards. And they're like, "Yeah, dude.

00:24:41.919 --> 00:24:46.080
We'll put you on the list." I'm like, "Yes,

00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:50.799
I don't think you knew that." That's all this has been. They're holding the card hostage until you do that video. What

00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:54.720
graphics card do you run at home these days? Uh, you know what? Honestly, I

00:24:53.039 --> 00:25:02.240
haven't been doing a a huge amount of gaming lately just because I've been so busy, but uh I still have a GTX 670 in

00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:04.799
my rig. It's a ASUS Direct CU2. And um

00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:08.559
honestly, I I do have like a 770 lying around that I just I don't know why I

00:25:06.080 --> 00:25:14.240
haven't installed yet, but um I I probably should. Is it air? Yeah, it's

00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:19.039
air. You have no excuse, sir. Yeah, right. Air cooled graphics card upgrade

00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:22.799
not happening. No time at all. I know. It's It's It's really just because I

00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:27.600
haven't done much gaming at all. Cry yourself to sleep every night. We're

00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:30.640
going to go to our Twitter boards here.

00:25:27.600 --> 00:25:32.960
All right, guys. So, first up, uh,

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:37.039
what's your main rig? Okay. You know what? Here, why don't you answer Ricardo

00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:42.159
here? What is your main rig? So, aside from the graphics card. Okay. Right now,

00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:46.720
I'm still a couple generations behind. I've got a Core i7 2600 K. It's

00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:51.279
overclocked to 4,400 MHz, which is still about as good as it gets. So, yes. Yeah,

00:25:49.600 --> 00:25:54.000
exactly. So, I mean, it's it's doing everything I needed to right now. I'm

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:57.600
just doing a lot of editing and it's handling it beautifully. Render times

00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:01.919
could be a bit faster, but uh I am planning on upgrading to an X79 platform

00:25:59.679 --> 00:26:05.840
pretty soon. Um, have you have you heard of the Intel? It's like the retail edge

00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:09.120
program. Yeah. So, uh, I think they're having a

00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:14.240
ridiculous deal on the fourth where you can get a 4930K for what is it like 190

00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:17.360
bucks. You know what else I heard about the retail edge program? I heard that I

00:26:16.080 --> 00:26:22.240
heard that technically you're not eligible for it. Oh, really? Yeah. I

00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:25.600
already I already did my time. I already got 10,000 points, so I got the voucher

00:26:24.159 --> 00:26:31.440
for the for the deal. I'm going to call Intel and I'm going to tell them that you don't work at a retail store. How

00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:34.720
dare you? I had it for like six years after I worked at one. Yeah, Retail

00:26:33.120 --> 00:26:38.159
Edge. I uh Well, did you ever try to claim any any of the deals? Oh, yeah.

00:26:36.320 --> 00:26:41.679
Oh, okay. That's unusual cuz I had to when I There's ways to do it. When I

00:26:39.840 --> 00:26:44.720
first submitted, I had to submit like Oh, well, I guess you could fake

00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:50.720
pasteubs. Yeah. Yeah, I did that a few times. Photoshop is a thing. Yeah, Photoshop. So, I what I used to do Not

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:54.880
that I actually did that. Okay. Wink wink. The second The first time I did

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:59.120
Retail Edge, I did everything legit. I actually went to a live event, so I was

00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:02.640
able to bring a payub and like show it to them. Well, okay. It was sort of

00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:05.760
legit cuz I also brought my wife and photoshopped one of my old payubs with

00:27:04.320 --> 00:27:09.200
her name on it so that I could get two of them.

00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:14.159
So she did use Photoshop. So she actually went to the sh Well, I used MS

00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:18.240
Paint to be clear. Oh. So she actually went to the event with me and got

00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:21.760
validated at the same time. Oh god. Then the second time I wanted something from

00:27:19.679 --> 00:27:28.960
Retail Edge, this was back when I wanted like I before I built my current rig, I

00:27:25.360 --> 00:27:31.279
always wanted like a RAID card and

00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:35.200
multi- SSD setup because I looked at SSD and I went, "Okay, this is perfect

00:27:33.360 --> 00:27:39.080
except it's not enough space." So, I was like, "Okay, I'm willing to just drop

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:43.679
all the money." So, I found four co-workers and this was back when each

00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:47.440
of them was like $300 or something stupid like that or like 200. Even on

00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:52.960
retail edge, it was like $200 or $300. And I got four

00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:54.480
X25M 80 gigs, I think, or 160s, I don't

00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:58.720
remember. But it was like my second retail edge deal. And so that was the

00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.320
the illegitimate thing there was I got a bunch of co-workers to sign me over

00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:07.200
their accounts so I could do all the quizzes.

00:28:03.919 --> 00:28:08.559
Nice. And then uh I don't remember. I

00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:13.200
think eventually I just got tired of it because Retail Edge used to be really easy. You could challenge all of the

00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:16.960
tests. So, if you knew the answers already, which I usually did because I

00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:19.760
had read the Anantech article four months earlier because it's not like

00:28:18.399 --> 00:28:24.880
they're showing off the latest stuff on there, then I could just answer all the questions and I was good to go. But now

00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:28.640
now they make you like sit and watch stuff, right? Uh, you know what? That's

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.080
that's true for some of them. But I noticed that maybe three out of five I

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:36.480
could just go straight to the quiz and get it over with. Maybe they've maybe

00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:41.840
they've refined it a little bit. I think like the one or two um quizzes that I

00:28:39.360 --> 00:28:47.679
actually had to uh wait to watch that ridiculous tutorial, it was like a

00:28:44.159 --> 00:28:48.960
twominute long TV like soap opera type

00:28:47.679 --> 00:28:55.200
thing and it was just the cheesiest thing I've ever seen and they made me watch it and I and I failed the test

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:59.880
afterwards cuz I was distracted so I had to watch it again. Oh, it was bad. I got

00:28:58.159 --> 00:29:03.600
to go to so many free movies cuz those guys So many free movies. Oh yeah. Nice.

00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:07.200
because they'd come by and be like, "Yeah, free Dark Knight screening."

00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:10.799
Awesome. Like, all right, I'll go to that. Sounds good. I have no extra

00:29:09.120 --> 00:29:15.600
money. I want to see this movie. Awesome. Sweet. I'm still amazed how how

00:29:13.840 --> 00:29:20.559
good your MS Paint skills are. I just can't get Yeah, that's actually pretty impressive. No, I couldn't do it. My

00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:24.360
wife did it. Not that I did it, but even more impressive.

00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:29.360
Someone I I Not that I Yeah, whatever. Um, I had

00:29:27.679 --> 00:29:34.880
automatic scripting things that would rewrite the date and I could just uh

00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:36.240
snipping tool and pull it in. So, every

00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:40.880
single time that I had to change a date, I was just like, done. Took me like 10

00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:44.320
seconds. I mean, Intel should have some more security behind that site knowing

00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:48.399
that everybody that's applying for it is in the tech industry and is more or less

00:29:45.919 --> 00:29:52.159
techsavvy. I know. Easy to hack into that. You would think that. You know,

00:29:50.320 --> 00:29:57.039
the funny thing about Retail Edge is I'm not convinced that anywhere near like

00:29:54.720 --> 00:30:01.200
probably 20% of the people buying those things are actually putting them in

00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:05.360
their own reselling it. All of them. If you check eBay immediately after retail

00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:10.159
edge thing is just like swamped with all of it. Mhm. The flipfest. Yeah. It's

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:13.799
ridiculous. Guys, it's going to be a real good time to buy a six core ivy

00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:18.320
bridgy real soon here. And it's always like extreme

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:22.640
editions and stuff. So, like people get these theoretically $1,000 process or it

00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.320
used to be extreme editions all the time. So, people would get like 980X's

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:31.679
and stuff like that and then they'd be like, "Oh, yeah, it's $1,000 processor." And then everyone would like list them

00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.440
on red flag deals and I'm like, "Uh, you know, overclock.net and they'd be like,

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:39.520
"Ah, $875." People be like, "Yeah, no. That

00:30:37.760 --> 00:30:42.919
that and there's like a hundred of you selling that exact chip right now. We we

00:30:41.919 --> 00:30:46.720
Yeah, no. See what you're up to. It's pretty

00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:53.919
epic. All right. So, how are you guys' uh Thanksgiving? Um, we have Thanksgiving a

00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:55.760
month before you. Oh, you're right. Oh

00:30:53.919 --> 00:30:59.120
my gosh. I'm such an out of touch American. I know. I know. We're We're

00:30:57.679 --> 00:31:04.880
basically We're just your hat to you, aren't we? Yes. Yes, indeed. I wish we

00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:08.159
could not mine. I saw this meme and I wish it was true where we could just

00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:12.399
have like second Thanksgiving like the hobbits. That would be awesome. Yeah, we

00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:17.760
should just inherit the American Thanksgiving. You know what's funny is it only took Okay, Black Friday only

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:23.039
started happening in Canada about 5 years ago. It only took 5 years and now

00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:26.240
it's a thing. Yeah. So, if we just started this

00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:30.399
second Thanksgiving. Second Thanksgiving. We're thankful that

00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:35.200
America Pilgrims Turkey hasn't blown us up yet.

00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:38.720
Yeah. Hasn't decided to invade us for a second time. Yeah. I'm really happy

00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:46.399
about that. We're glad that we're America's hat and

00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:48.000
not America's cup. Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:46.399 --> 00:31:52.720
You know, you're not going to last long around here on this here show.

00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:57.679
I love you guys. No, I was just in Toronto last weekend to cover an expo

00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:01.279
there and everyone was very friendly and I ate a lot of poutine and ketchup

00:31:59.360 --> 00:32:04.880
chips. We're from Vancouver, so we're not particularly fond of Toronto either.

00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:08.880
Leave some. Oh, wow. You guys know that civil wars within Canada. That's that's

00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:13.039
harsh. Yeah. If there was a Canadian Civil War, it would be between like the

00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.919
Vancouver Conucks and like the Toronto Maple Leafs. Yeah. And there would just

00:32:14.320 --> 00:32:20.399
be this like huge walk in between. Yeah. There'd be like there'd be there would

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:23.519
be like an enormous ice rink and then there would be no We wouldn't even We'd

00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:26.240
do away with the hockey sticks and the hockey pucks entirely and everyone would

00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:31.039
just throw off their gloves and charge at each other. Yeah. That would be like the Canadian Civil War. Then afterwards,

00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:34.000
everyone would shake hands and go out for drinks and then it'd be fun. Yeah.

00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:40.799
There'd be lots of beer. You all just compliment each other on your fighting skills. Yeah. The the beer would both

00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:47.200
enhance the uh the violence and enhance the camaraderie after the violence. Yep,

00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:48.799
that's right. Welcome to Canada.

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:53.840
Oh, that's a great place. All right, so Oh, you know what? I guess we didn't actually do much Twitter blitzing here,

00:32:51.679 --> 00:33:02.399
so of course I requested, will there ever be a GTX 790? We don't know.

00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:03.840
Um, okay. What do you think? Ah, hey

00:33:02.399 --> 00:33:07.600
Kyle. I don't know if you've been paying much attention to New Eggs Black Friday deals, but it's gonna be pretty

00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:14.240
embarrassing if you hadn't. What do you think was the best New Egg Black Friday

00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:15.600
deal so far? Oh. Oh, boy. Yep. Time to

00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:20.640
be embarrassing. There's some pretty good stuff. I I looked through the deals

00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:25.200
and um I saw like a bunch of little things. Like I wasn't really looking for

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:28.640
straight up PC hardware because I I recently built a system and I I don't

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:33.600
need to spend any more money on that for the next few days. Uh, but I did see a

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:37.039
kilowatt on sale for like 17 bucks. That's not a bad deal. Yeah. And I

00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:41.279
totally bought one because they're usually $30, $40 and um there were some

00:33:39.760 --> 00:33:45.840
other things like a few tool kits that were just dirt cheap. Not sure. I It

00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:50.559
remains to be seen the quality of them, how easily they'll break. Yeah, I bought

00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:54.640
the iFixit one and considering the price, I was pretty disappointed with

00:33:52.399 --> 00:34:00.480
how it's just a rebranded Chinese tool kit. Right. So, you was afraid of. But I

00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:04.320
did see a we we did have a pretty nice TV. Um well actually I've heard mixed

00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:08.560
things about it. It's like a Chang Hong TV. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that brand. It's like a Chinese

00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.040
No, we really haven't. I thought you surprised. Yeah, I thought you were I

00:34:09.839 --> 00:34:15.359
thought you were joking. I thought he was making fun of Siki. Yeah, I thought you were I'm not being racist at all. I

00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:21.599
thought you were making fun of every Asian brand cuz you can kind of get away with that, right? Um I only only half

00:34:19.839 --> 00:34:26.079
the time cuz I'm only half Asian. Ah, okay. The other half I'm I'm being

00:34:23.359 --> 00:34:31.440
racist. Is it like a dice roll? Is it like actual 50% random or is it like

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:35.599
specific things? It's It's like 50% Well, okay. I'm a quarter Chinese and a

00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:40.800
quarter Thai. Okay. And then and then half like just white. Just obscure

00:34:38.399 --> 00:34:44.000
whiteness. I love how that's a thing. Obscure whiteness. You're a white

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:47.679
person. Yeah. What's your heritage? I don't know. Europe

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.280
probably. I'm white. I don't have a heritage.

00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:56.480
You know what's funny though is in Europe it's totally different and it is a thing. Yeah. Whereas it's just North

00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.880
America cuz we're this weird like melting pot of whatever culture it all

00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:04.520
came from. So we just we make our own culture and we have monster trucks and

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:08.960
you know poutine trucks poutine and maple leaves.

00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:11.839
Yeah. Exactly. It's like yeah that's a culture something something like it's

00:35:10.640 --> 00:35:16.800
like what are you? I'm Canadian. What's that mean? I don't know. I don't know.

00:35:14.720 --> 00:35:21.119
Half Union and half Confederate. I don't know.

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:26.160
So you might say that you have frequent internal conflicts then.

00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:32.160
Yes, all the time. But only 100 plus years ago.

00:35:28.720 --> 00:35:34.640
I'm an old soul that way.

00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:38.240
All right. Um, minus I haven't heard much about DDR4 for a while. It's coming

00:35:36.640 --> 00:35:41.920
coming later. I wouldn't hold out on a system upgrade, though. No. And at the

00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.520
beginning, it's not going to be very good anyways. So, this is a topic. Um,

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:50.000
Kyle, I'm not sure if you'll have much to say about this, but I certainly do.

00:35:47.359 --> 00:35:53.119
OCZ filing for bankruptcy. Have you heard about this? Did you see this? No,

00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:56.880
I heard about that. It's very sad. It's very sad. I actually have two Vertex 4s

00:35:54.720 --> 00:36:01.440
in my system right now and I'm I'm sad that I'm never going to see a Vertex 5.

00:35:59.839 --> 00:36:05.520
Are you going to create like a shrine to them? I should. Or maybe I'll sell them

00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:08.720
on eBay when they're like really rare and extinct. I doubt that will be I

00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:13.359
doubt that'll be a thing. Computer hardware doesn't really that much. Yeah.

00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:18.640
Yeah. Unless it's like Apple apparently. Yeah, you're probably right. We even saw

00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:21.119
old um Apple iPhone first going on eBay

00:36:18.640 --> 00:36:25.680
for like thousands of dollars. Wow. Yeah. kind. Well, no, I don't know if

00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:28.160
they were selling, but they were listed.

00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:32.320
So, that's that's a thing. So, I'm going to weigh in on the whole OCZ filing for

00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.480
bankruptcy thing a little bit here. And um guys, I worked with OCZ for a long

00:36:34.640 --> 00:36:39.680
time. This time, I'm guys the audience, not guys, you and the other one. See,

00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:44.000
that's why that's confusing. I know. I know. So, I worked with OCZ for a long

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:48.160
time. I um I used to be the product manager for OCZ. That's going back

00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:52.480
almost about four years now, I think. And there were a lot of warning signs

00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:57.920
here. There were a lot of warning signs. I mean, there was stuff going on like

00:36:54.720 --> 00:37:00.240
I'd buy inventory at this price and then

00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:03.520
by the time, you know, I would work through all that inventory. Not to say

00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:09.359
that they weren't selling well, you know, they were selling extremely well for a long time, but like but they

00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:12.240
they'd want you to take so much so that they could hit their quarter end and

00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:17.280
year-end goals and all that that you take it in and by the time you're selling it, they're giving you instant

00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:22.920
rebates and stuff like that that are so high that you know that they lost money

00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:27.119
on just the cost of the flash chips alone. Never mind manufacturing and

00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:30.640
customer service and shipping. I mean, they would cover the shipping and and

00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:36.560
management and all of these commissions for the sales people. I mean, it all adds up to the point where the only way

00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:41.760
to keep it going was to keep selling more and more and more and more and more

00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.760
more volume. And um that was something that with the profit margins that they

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:49.760
were promising to their shareholders, they couldn't do because as long as it

00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:54.000
was fine to take investor money and sell every drive at a loss to hit higher and

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:57.839
higher volume targets, it was going to work. But when investors kind of went,

00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:02.160
"Hey, you know, you're um burning through all this cash really fast. What

00:37:59.839 --> 00:38:05.200
exactly are you doing over there?" Well, they were buying market share and that

00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:09.200
uh that wasn't going to fly in the long term. So, when it came time to to try to

00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:14.240
make money on the drives, I think what they discovered was that their brand name and their brand strength really

00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:18.800
wasn't as strong as they had hoped that it would be. And that by that time, SSD

00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:22.960
had gone from being an enthusiast type product to being a commodity type

00:38:20.720 --> 00:38:30.160
product. It happened very quickly. Um, in fact, I'd say in the time between

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:32.320
Vertex 2 and onward, SSD went full

00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:36.720
commodity. And so trying to release a Vertex 4 and a Vector and trying to to

00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:40.640
dress it up and gussy it up and put, you know, maybe they should have put gold heat spreaders on it. They were the

00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:45.359
pioneers of putting gold heat spreaders on things to make them sell for more.

00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:47.920
Me, too. But you you just weren't able

00:38:45.359 --> 00:38:51.440
to do it anymore. And that, I think, ultimately caused their downfall. So

00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:55.359
Toshiba is looking at buying the assets which is interesting. I had a lot of

00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.480
people comment on um something must have been Twitter. Really? Toshiba? They're

00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:02.240
really small. No, they're not. No, they're not at all. Toshiba is a flash

00:39:00.720 --> 00:39:07.760
manufacturer. In fact, you know what's funny is I had someone make the same

00:39:03.839 --> 00:39:09.599
comment about SanDisk and Adata about

00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:14.640
their oh well they're really small SSD players. No, they're not. They are

00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:18.480
manufacturers which means they're huge which means that they actually make the

00:39:16.160 --> 00:39:22.640
drives that smaller companies rebrand. So don't worry, they're okay. Um, so

00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:26.960
Toshiba is a step above drive manufacturer. They actually manufacture

00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.960
nan flash. So they're going to be all right if they do they make SSDs yet? I

00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:35.040
don't think they do. But if they acquired OCZ, then that would be very

00:39:33.680 --> 00:39:40.400
interesting because Indelinks's controller technology is not bad. It's

00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:46.520
good. And Toshiba toggle Nand is among the best out there. So this could be a

00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:46.520
match made in heaven.

00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:53.280
I like it. Looks like it on Newegg.

00:39:50.720 --> 00:39:56.079
Apparently they do have them on Newegg. Oh, out of out of stock though, so I

00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.839
don't know. They I don't think they've been doing anything for a while. I'm

00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.920
kind of assuming. Yeah. Like is this SEATA 2 or SATA 3 or what? No, this is

00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:08.200
SATA 3. So yeah, they've got one the HDTS. You They could use some branding

00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:13.760
on this. HDTS225XZ STA. Yeah. Oh god. Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:12.640 --> 00:40:18.400
So they need some help. Sounds like a Lean Lee product. Yeah. You know, Lee

00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.320
and Lee's that this company that I just I love their products and the quality is

00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:26.560
fantastic, but even I can't figure out their product line. I agree. I think

00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.800
they'd do so much better if they just had some better branding, marketing, and

00:40:29.040 --> 00:40:34.640
whatnot. Yeah. Some some co even some coherency to like the positioning of the

00:40:33.359 --> 00:40:38.800
products. Like you go on their site and it's just like which case would you

00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:44.079
like? Here are all the cases. Yeah. And I'm like well I don't know the

00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:47.440
like the one. The gaming one. Like the train one. the train one. This is the

00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:51.920
best. I even requested a train a train set. I tried to get one, but I couldn't.

00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.520
Well, more like you couldn't at a reasonable price. Yeah, cuz they Man,

00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:59.760
they were expensive. Yeah, they were. You know what? I actually had a while

00:40:57.040 --> 00:41:05.119
back. Um it was a swag item. It was a Lean Lee um dinosaur. So, it was like a

00:41:03.359 --> 00:41:07.920
sheet of aluminum and then it had all the pieces and then you assembled it

00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:13.040
like you know those dinosaurs that you like put the ribs on the back of the spine and like like you made a little

00:41:11.200 --> 00:41:16.720
Lee and Lee aluminum dinosaurs. Awesome. So cool. Yeah, that's fun. I I don't

00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:22.560
know what happened to it, but that was one of my favorite swag things that I ever got. Did they Did they call it like

00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:26.079
a 95608? You're like, "Dude, it's a Tyrannosaurus

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:30.400
Rex." No, but I'm sure they were I'm sure they

00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:35.839
were tempted. All right, what do we got next? Um,

00:41:33.680 --> 00:41:40.560
okay. There's a 4K Ultrabook apparently that costs less than $1,400. I think

00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:44.640
more than anything that's revealing of how inexpensive 4K displays actually

00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.920
are. and how manufacturers need to just screw off and just give us our displays

00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:51.680
now. I wonder how well that Ultrabook's pushing that display, though. Yeah,

00:41:49.680 --> 00:41:56.720
exactly. Kyle, how awesome is your sauce?

00:41:53.359 --> 00:41:59.599
Uh, incredibly excellent. Incredulously.

00:41:56.720 --> 00:42:03.920
Incredulously awesome. Uh, Jeremy asks, "How to work at Linus Techch or NCIX?"

00:42:01.680 --> 00:42:07.560
Um, well, at Linus Techch, we're not hiring, but at NCIX, you could start

00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:11.119
with going to ncx.com/careers. I think it is something

00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.599
like that. Something like that. If not, it's on the if you scroll down to the

00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:19.200
bottom of their website, it should be there. I'll find it. Just spam their YouTube channel and pine for a job. They

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:25.760
love that. It's a really good idea. Yeah, that works really well.

00:42:23.200 --> 00:42:30.319
How how uh how tempting is it to have all that crazy hardware around you

00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:34.319
working at Newegg? Uh it's it's it's really tempting and I feel like I get to

00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:38.480
purge some of that anxiety that I feel because I uh because I have my own

00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:41.760
YouTube channel. And so sometimes if we're backed up and we don't have time

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:46.240
to look at a product at Newegg, I can take it home and research it by myself

00:42:43.839 --> 00:42:50.319
and and shoot a video of it and whatnot. And uh it's also pretty cool because it

00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.920
lets me look at products more honestly. Um whereas New Egg, you know, we kind of

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:58.240
sell everybody. Uh we have to be fair to all the vendors and we can't really do

00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:59.760
reviews um because if if we give a bad

00:42:58.240 --> 00:43:02.560
review then no one will buy the product, right? It's a company. So that's that's

00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.599
the cool thing about having my own channel is that I get to do what you guys do is be really honest with the

00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:16.079
product and let them know how you feel about it so that people can actually make a more valid purchasing decision.

00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:18.160
Mango juice asks, um, what is it like

00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:22.880
working with Paul? Working with Paul is pretty awesome. Um,

00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:26.160
he's just like he's exactly how you see him in the videos. I mean, he's not

00:43:24.640 --> 00:43:31.440
dressed up at all. He has no hyperextended personality. Um, he's just

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:37.359
a really guy. What's that? I said, "What are you implying exactly?"

00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:39.920
That that he's really laid-back and and

00:43:37.359 --> 00:43:44.640
relaxed. That some people do have fake personalities on camera perhaps. Well, I

00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:47.599
mean, yeah, sometimes sometimes you do, you know, sometimes you you see somebody

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:53.040
on camera and you meet them in person and they're totally different. Uh my old

00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.640
roommate was like that. But, um Paul

00:43:53.040 --> 00:43:59.119
Paul is kind of like a no frrills type guy. He just says it how it is and you

00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:02.880
know he's he's not trying to be in the spotlight or trying to be the face of

00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.119
Newegg. He really just wants to share information with people. Can we go back

00:44:04.319 --> 00:44:10.000
and he's like he's a really good teacher. Can we go back to that old roommate for a second? So you said your

00:44:07.839 --> 00:44:13.839
roommate kind of put on airs when um over video. So did you actually meet

00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:19.280
this roommate over like a like a webcam chat or No, no, this is this is a

00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.160
roommate that I had in college actually and he had in college. You know the

00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:29.599
stories about you know what happens between roommates in college. Please go on. Oh. Uh, you're not okay. I don't

00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:32.079
know who that was. But speaking of

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:36.960
college roommates, no, but he he actually was the one that

00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:41.440
sparked my interest in YouTube, I guess, and like what a YouTube partner could

00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:45.599
be, cuz he was a YouTuber and, you know, he made all these wacky um I guess they

00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:50.640
were kind of like tech videos, but he did more like consumer electronic stuff

00:44:47.359 --> 00:44:53.119
and uh movies and TV shows, reviews of

00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:55.920
that nature. But um he would be just completely wacky all the time and then

00:44:54.640 --> 00:45:01.680
you'd talk to him and he's like a really chill, mellow guy and you put a camera on him and he just puts on this whole

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:06.800
act. And uh Paul's like the inverse of that. And I'm I'm probably like

00:45:04.160 --> 00:45:10.640
somewhere in between being completely exaggerated and exactly the same as I am

00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:17.119
because I'm not interesting enough to just be myself on camera. No one would watch me spice things up. So Paul's

00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:20.319
chill enough on on camera and he's so he's the inverse of the other guy. So

00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:23.760
basically he it's like he got hit with a horse tranquilizer when he's not on

00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:28.319
camera. I mean he he gets excited, you know, a

00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:32.880
new product comes in and and like his eyebrows go up like a normal human

00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:36.319
being. But uh for the most part he's just a really down to earth guy and he's

00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:44.079
super nice. He's lovable. He's like a big teddy bear. He's like the office teddy bear. A if only gave bear hugs.

00:45:42.160 --> 00:45:47.680
Let's move into our last topic. Now, I know you haven't had much time for

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:52.960
gaming lately, but how have you been have you been following much of the news

00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:55.440
about Steam OS and Steam boxes? Uh, here

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:59.280
and there, but um not I'm not completely versed in it yet. All right, so check

00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:03.680
this out. Top War Gamer posted on the forum. Here is I by Power Steam Machine

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.760
prototype. Now, they the funny thing about this is they sent an email to me

00:46:05.359 --> 00:46:12.160
earlier this week that was like, hush hush, top secret, blah blah blah. we'll

00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:17.119
be showing off a Steam Machine prototype at CES. And I'm like, okay. So, I didn't

00:46:15.520 --> 00:46:21.280
say anything about it. And then like the next day, it's everywhere and there's

00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:25.200
like pictures of it and it's like on end gadget and the Verge. I'm just like, is

00:46:23.680 --> 00:46:29.760
it a secret? Is it not a secret? I don't get anyway. To me, it looks like a Wii.

00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:34.079
You know what? It kind of look Are you talking about the white one, right, with the different colors? Yeah. Well, the

00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:38.960
white it looks like a PlayStation 4 and an Xbox One had a baby. It does not look

00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:44.880
like a PS4. It looks like a PS4 got squished up straight. No, it's not. It's

00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:50.839
Xbox One. Oh, what? The color is so easy to change. Colors easy to change. Tell

00:46:47.200 --> 00:46:50.839
Michael Jackson that.

00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:58.160
Good one. I think it is a PS4. They just

00:46:54.640 --> 00:46:58.160
put better components in

00:46:58.680 --> 00:47:03.520
it. They bought a whole bunch of PS4s. They're just like, "Yeah, no, don't

00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.119
worry about it." Yeah, whatever. That GPU sucks. You can take out the hard drive, remember? No, we got this. Yeah,

00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:12.480
we're going to we're going to put a better one in. Don't worry about it. It's all good. You can you I hear you

00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:17.760
can actually flash your PS4 to turn into a Steam box. That would be so epic. That

00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:21.599
would be awesome. All right, so we have some known specs. It's going to have a

00:47:19.040 --> 00:47:27.040
multi-core AMD CPU. It looks like AMD is just firing on all freaking cylinders

00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:31.440
when it comes to design wins lately. That timing. Yeah. It'll have an R9270

00:47:29.359 --> 00:47:33.599
GPU, 500 gig hard drive, built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, an integrated power

00:47:32.640 --> 00:47:39.680
supply. That'll be a little bit bigger than a PS4, but still smaller than an Xbox One. And comes with Valve's Steam

00:47:37.520 --> 00:47:44.720
Controller. And all this is looking to come in around $500. It's cool that I by

00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:50.400
Power knows that the X versions are not worth anything. Yeah, I know, right? X

00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:53.599
versions. Why do you exist? Why do you exist? You're not as good. All right, so

00:47:52.319 --> 00:47:57.520
why don't we do a little a couple more Twitter blitz questions and then I guess we'll have to let you go. We've had you

00:47:56.240 --> 00:48:01.839
actually more than half an hour. Sorry about that, Kyle. Oh, it's gone by so

00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:05.520
fast. You guys are great. Thank you. A you're you're like he's so nice to us

00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:09.520
and then he's self-deprecating. I know. How do you how do you hate this guy? Cuz

00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.800
I certainly do hate him. I mean Oh yeah, absolutely. He works for the enemy. I'll

00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:16.000
kill you. And you're not okay. You don't work there anymore. That's been so

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:21.040
confusing about this stream. Why are you so ra They are a competing YouTube

00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:25.119
channel too. And we still do work with the NCX YouTube team very closely. But

00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:29.520
you don't work with them. You work with them. And he called me out on

00:48:27.839 --> 00:48:34.319
overclocking our graphics card benchmarks. He did it as well. Oh, no he

00:48:31.839 --> 00:48:39.359
didn't. No, he did not. It was It was a friendly poke. A friendly poke. That is

00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:45.200
That is what I tell my wife. This was not a friendly Sorry. I I can't hold

00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:49.280
that together. Dear God. Are we still live? Yes, we

00:48:47.839 --> 00:48:54.000
are. Yes, we're still live. So, why don't we move on? Um Kyle, do you have

00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:59.680
any thoughts on the ASUS Mars 760, their dual GTX 760 card? Oh god, that's pretty

00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:03.359
awesome. I haven't even heard much about it, but I think it's going to be cool

00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:08.160
and probably a little overpriced, but that doesn't mean it's any less badass.

00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:12.400
You know what? That ASUS should hire you to do their ROG marketing because that

00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:16.240
was pretty much it. Yeah, it's going to be cool. Demographic. It's going to be

00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:19.319
expensive, but like it's going to be awesome, but it's going to be badass.

00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:25.319
It's like, yeah, there you go. There you go. I would Yeah, whatever. They owe me

00:49:22.319 --> 00:49:25.319
money.

00:49:25.839 --> 00:49:32.559
Uh, I don't know. What what are your thoughts on it? I would rather get two

00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:38.000
separate cards or one freaking card. That's what I would rather do. You know,

00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:40.160
if they're going to allow um SLI, yes,

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:44.160
quad SLI will be enabled. So, that's that's a little bit unique. Yeah, that's

00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:49.839
really cool. I would still rather buy one 780 Ti or two 780 Ti though. Sure.

00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:52.800
All right. So, we've got Is it gonna Oh, sorry. Last question. Do you know I'm

00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:56.240
just curious myself. Is it going to be on air or they have like a integrated

00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:00.880
water cooler? It is air. It's not like the last generation Aries card that had

00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:05.680
that builtin uh that builtin liquid cooler. All right, so we got some troll

00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:11.040
asking us a question on Twitter here. Which of new eggs elf commercials do you

00:50:07.680 --> 00:50:12.559
like the best? Oh god. Wait, are those

00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:17.280
are those live yet? Are those already up? I don't know, man. You tell me cuz I

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:21.520
I think this this this guy's kind of trolling us pretty hard here. He's like

00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:26.000
sort of a sort of a jackass. I know him. Oh, is it is it

00:50:23.160 --> 00:50:29.119
Paul? I guarantee it's Paul. Yeah, it's Paul. Honestly, I haven't even seen all

00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:33.680
the elf commercials. I've only seen two of them. One of which all of our voices

00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:37.599
are altered. So, me, Jenny, and Paul were all in a a national commercial

00:50:35.839 --> 00:50:42.480
that's supposed to be broadcasted on TV like today. Really? Allegedly. Yes.

00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:46.400
That's awesome. I mean, they were so ambitious about it. This was last week

00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:48.800
and I think our CMO was like, "Hey, I want three national commercials." And

00:50:47.839 --> 00:50:52.280
we're like, "Oh, yeah, that sounds great." He's like, "Buy next week."

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:57.359
Like, what? But but we did it. It happened.

00:50:55.200 --> 00:51:00.720
And um they they kind of like autotuned our voices to sound like elves. It's

00:50:59.040 --> 00:51:04.240
it's pretty awful. But uh I think that was only one of the versions. They might

00:51:02.720 --> 00:51:07.440
actually turn around and and if they listen to our requests, they'll they'll

00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:10.440
use our real voices cuz they're much sexier.

00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:16.240
Wow. I'm actually going to get a kick out of it. I am really excited to see

00:51:13.680 --> 00:51:21.200
this because honestly and as much as Okay, I hope no one tells Logan this,

00:51:18.640 --> 00:51:25.359
but my favorite video of his that I've ever seen is his Tiger Direct commercial

00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:32.079
spot from their from the Have you seen it? Yeah. They're great. I'm I'm going

00:51:29.040 --> 00:51:36.319
to see if I can dig this up because it

00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:40.880
is so amazing. Like the level of sellout

00:51:36.319 --> 00:51:42.559
going on here is just so far beyond like

00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:45.119
the real Logan that we that we know and love. Okay, I I don't know if you guys

00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:52.640
are going to have audio for this or not, but I'm going to go ahead and screen share with you here. So, here we go.

00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:55.280
Here we go. Oh. Oh, hold on. Hold on.

00:51:52.640 --> 00:51:55.280
Okay, let's try

00:51:56.520 --> 00:52:01.079
again. Oh, this is classic.

00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:29.760
You know what? You know what it reminds me of is like those crazy commercials that you see late at night at like 2:00

00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:34.720
in the morning. It's like, "Come down to Crazy Girls Television sets. We got the

00:52:31.680 --> 00:52:37.280
hottest deals around town." Oh, I love

00:52:34.720 --> 00:52:40.240
that. I love that. Oh, Logan. Apparently, there was no sound. I'm

00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:45.280
sorry, you guys. There's nothing I can do about it right now. But the point is

00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:49.520
it's it's ridiculous. If you search for current Tiger TV commercial spot or

00:52:47.839 --> 00:52:53.119
something like that, it comes up. But like that is got to be the most

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:58.559
embarrassing video on the entire internet of uh of our of our favorite of

00:52:56.160 --> 00:53:02.000
our favorite buddy Logan there. And you can see the pain behind his eyes the

00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:06.559
whole time. Like he knows what kind of commercial he's in. You can see the act

00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:13.920
of defiance. He's wearing his Raise the World shirt under his sport coat to like

00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.520
be like, "Look, I I I I didn't want to

00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.640
do this. I didn't want to do this, but they made me I had to, but I didn't want

00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.960
to." It's like Superman like worked there. Worked. But isn't that recent?

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:27.920
No. No, that's old. Yeah, that's old. That's old. I thought that was new.

00:53:25.839 --> 00:53:31.760
Yeah. No, that was uh that was amazing. All right, so I think that's pretty much

00:53:29.520 --> 00:53:35.680
it. Thank you, Kyle, for joining us. We really appreciate having you on the

00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:41.920
show. Thanks for having me on, guys. All right, take care. You, too. Let's jump

00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:47.359
directly into these two confusing topics. All right. Yeah, this is uh this

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:52.559
is this is kind of a whackload of weirdness. Yeah. All right. So, this is

00:53:50.160 --> 00:53:55.520
actually from the NCIX forums of all places. I'm going to go ahead and screen

00:53:53.760 --> 00:54:00.800
share with you guys here. Was posted by Bloody Lunatic and the original article

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:05.599
is from Tech PowerUp. And the rumor is that NVIDIA is working on a GTX Titan

00:54:03.680 --> 00:54:10.960
refresh, but like it totally looks like someone

00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:14.880
just painted a And I have some reasons for it. Don't those look like silver

00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:18.720
fins? No, those look like those look like dark aluminum fins to do. They look

00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:23.200
like dark aluminum or shaded. No, I think they look like dark aluminum. I

00:54:20.240 --> 00:54:30.480
think you'd have a hard time um changing the texture of the shroud here to make

00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:32.880
it like more more dark than it than it

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.920
already was. Like I don't know, man. You should see some of the pictures of

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:40.400
people painted Titans. That's some pretty easy stuff to paint. Okay, fair

00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:44.319
enough. Like real easy stuff to paint. Okay, hold on. Let's go. But they Okay.

00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:50.559
Okay. Okay. When we've seen photoshopped cards in the past though, no

00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:52.559
one no one really seems to bother with

00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:56.319
uh doing like two chops of it. It's usually like one good Photoshop or

00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:01.520
something like that. And they've done two different images of it. No, I mean people have actually painted Titan,

00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:05.760
right? Oh, okay. So, you think that this is just a painted Titan? I just I don't

00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:11.200
understand why the hell they would release this. I mean, okay, here's It

00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:17.599
has a few more CUDA corores. I I guess if we weren't if we didn't have 780 Ti 6

00:55:14.640 --> 00:55:23.119
gig cards coming, then this might make sense. Yeah, because then Titan could

00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:26.400
still be positioned as the multi-way SLI

00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:29.760
6 gig monster. But with EVGA releasing

00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:31.680
that Kingpin edition 780 Ti, um it's

00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:35.359
like why does this exist? We can tell you guys like okay well it would have

00:55:33.359 --> 00:55:42.400
slightly better performance with you know it's full double precision floating

00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:44.960
point enabledness but like but I it's

00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:49.920
very weird. Yeah, but it doesn't seem like I I kind of I get it. Okay, so if

00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:54.640
we had to gamble are you and I going to gamble not a real thing? Probably. But

00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:59.359
like it could be. I'm not saying it's not. But I just like I still don't

00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:04.880
recommend buying one. No. So, that's a thing because it's going to be so much

00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:07.040
money. Yeah, 780 Ti is like right there.

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:11.599
Yeah, I've had quite a few people asking me, should I get a 700 series now or

00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:17.119
should I wait until Maxwell? And the answer is unfortunately the same as it

00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:19.200
always is, guys, because we don't know.

00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:25.200
No idea. I mean, the thing about Maxwell is it should be on a new a new process

00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:27.200
node. Um, it should be at least a a

00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:30.960
strong step forward in terms of performance. But with what NVIDIA has

00:56:29.359 --> 00:56:36.240
done in terms of pricing of new generation cards with the exception of

00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:38.160
680 Ti, they've just taken whatever is

00:56:36.240 --> 00:56:42.960
out there now and they've taken their cards and they've gone, "Okay, well, this one performs about in between those

00:56:40.640 --> 00:56:45.599
two, so here's the pricing." So, it would this one performs better, so

00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:49.839
here's the pricing. Yeah. So, it wouldn't it's not like actually I don't

00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:53.920
know. It doesn't We can't really say. We could be wrong. They could 8800 GT the

00:56:51.680 --> 00:56:58.559
market again. Yeah, they probably won't. I I I kind of doubt it. I think that uh

00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:01.839
I think that their their strength right now in terms of graphics card market

00:57:00.319 --> 00:57:06.720
share and graphics card perception is such that they don't need to to do that.

00:57:04.799 --> 00:57:11.200
So AMD is doing real good though, especially with R9290s, not 290X's, but

00:57:09.520 --> 00:57:19.359
290s. 290 is a strong looking card. I got to wonder how profitable it is for them though. That is a bigger die than

00:57:15.200 --> 00:57:21.599
7970 and it's selling at pricing that is

00:57:19.359 --> 00:57:25.280
pretty near what they were doing 79 what they were doing with 7950 back when that

00:57:23.680 --> 00:57:28.400
launched. And then you factor in the fact that it is a more expensive board

00:57:26.799 --> 00:57:32.240
to produce because it consumes more power and it is a more expensive cooling

00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:36.400
solution because it kicks out more heat like and it and it's a newer it's a

00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:41.920
newer design so the yields aren't going to be as high. Like I really got to wonder if if what they're doing right

00:57:39.359 --> 00:57:46.400
now isn't just totally crazy town. Yeah. I mean, R9290, big thumbs up. In fact,

00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:49.920
we've got something exciting coming, you guys. Our water block for our R9290

00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:55.040
arrived. So, we're going to be doing water cooled R9290 versus GTX 780 cuz

00:57:53.359 --> 00:57:58.400
those are the closest priced cards that make the most sense. And we're going to

00:57:56.640 --> 00:58:02.480
get them both to the point where throttling goes away and we find out

00:58:00.720 --> 00:58:06.000
what they're both truly capable of. So, stay tuned for that on Linus Tech Tips.

00:58:04.160 --> 00:58:10.000
Actually pretty stoked. Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited about that because up

00:58:07.359 --> 00:58:13.520
till now I haven't even people It's funny. I get called an NVIDIA fanboy a

00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:18.079
lot and I get called an AMD fanboy sometimes, too. It's fine. On our on our

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:21.119
recent video, the uh Can I just rotate depending on what card is released?

00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:24.079
Yeah, of course. If there's an AMD release, we're NVIDIA fanboys. And if I

00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:29.200
mean, if there's an AMD release, we're AMD fanboys. If there's an NVIDIA release, we're NVIDIA fanboys. So, on

00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:33.920
our holiday buyers guide, I had someone asking why I hated on NVIDIA or on AMD

00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.839
so hard. And I was like, okay, well, two things. Number one is that one out of

00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:42.079
our three systems had an AMD CPU in it. Number two is that two out of our three

00:58:40.160 --> 00:58:46.880
systems had AMD graphics cards in them. So out of a six possible spots that I

00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:52.160
could have assigned to AMD, they got three.

00:58:49.040 --> 00:58:55.040
So yeah, in like the three most logical

00:58:52.160 --> 00:59:00.480
spots cuz I looked over everything. Yes. So we both agreed on those parts lists.

00:58:57.839 --> 00:59:06.480
So if I'm an NVIDIA fanboy, then so is he and so is anyone who looks at things

00:59:03.680 --> 00:59:11.440
objectively, I guess. All right, so moving on to our next topic that is like

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:15.839
what the heck was this one even about? I can't even find it right now. The black

00:59:14.160 --> 00:59:19.760
uh Titan. No, no, the other one. We already talked about that. Power color releases crazy fan design. It's right

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:24.880
under the Black Titan. Yeah, there it is. Okay, so this thing is ridiculous.

00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:30.559
What the heck are they doing? So, it was posted by Brown Ninja on the forum and

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:33.760
it looks perfectly normal. Okay, until you like There's a box. Hold on. Hold

00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:38.000
on. Hold on. There's a box. That's normal. Yep. It supports 4K, which is

00:59:35.839 --> 00:59:43.480
normal. It's got two fans, which are normal. Oh,

00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:46.559
what the heck? What the heck is going on

00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:49.440
here? So, we got five big Okay, so first

00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:54.880
of all, it looks like instead of being a downdraft cooler towards the heat sink,

00:59:52.319 --> 00:59:58.640
it is sucking air from the heat sink. Okay, so there's a couple of advantages

00:59:56.799 --> 01:00:02.720
and disadvantages to this. So, advantage number one is that this implementation

01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.520
can be quieter is my understanding. Although you're gonna have to have a

01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:12.079
reasonable shroud on it and stuff like that, blah blah blah. Less turbulence.

01:00:08.240 --> 01:00:13.280
But disadvantage. Um, whatever. I think

01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:18.480
that's about the only advantage I can come up with. I guess another advantage would that be that it doesn't exhaust

01:00:16.319 --> 01:00:21.280
air down towards the PCI Express slot on the motherboard. So, your motherboard

01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:25.359
might not run as hot. So, it's going to be pulling air from around it and then

01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.559
blowing it down towards your other addin cards or something like like Okay. None

01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:32.000
of this that's not necessarily an advantage. Okay. Well, why don't I just

01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:38.559
say this? Imagine your raid card was there. I'm not overheat. Okay.

01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:41.760
So, okay. The other weird thing about it, aside from the fact that it pulls

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.440
air through the fins. Oh, right. The So, the disadvantage of pulling air through

01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:47.760
the fins is that you can't control the

01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:51.839
directionality of the air flow as much. It's going to come in from around the edges where it doesn't actually have to

01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:55.040
come through the fins unless they've sealed it extremely well. In which case,

01:00:53.839 --> 01:01:00.880
they might as well just turn the fan around because it's the same thing. So then number two weird thing about it is

01:00:58.720 --> 01:01:04.000
look at these little baby baby blades right here. I thought they were like

01:01:02.319 --> 01:01:09.119
reflections at first and then I was like nope no those are things. Nope. Those

01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:12.400
are those are definitely things. So I will be interested. I don't think we

01:01:10.640 --> 01:01:16.480
have a power color contact. But this is funny. This is what the OP is like.

01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:19.960
Yeah. It kind of reminds me of like of like Nemo Finding Nemo little fins on

01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:26.319
like clownfish. So yeah, I guess we'll reserve judgment

01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:30.640
on this one for now. There is also some feature that makes it

01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:35.359
spin at like basically max fan speed when you turn your computer off. I am so

01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:40.720
tired of seeing that feature. It doesn't do anything. It's going to cool down. I

01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:44.799
had I had an unboxing I did that someone complained I didn't mention that feature

01:01:42.720 --> 01:01:48.559
because it keeps the fan spinning after your system powers down. Blah blah blah.

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:52.960
Increases longevity. Actually, it's been proven that it does nothing for

01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:56.960
longevity. It's it's proven. It's done. It's put to rest. We've taken that book,

01:01:55.200 --> 01:02:01.599
closed it, and put it away on the shelf and then burned the shelf. It's done. It

01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:05.680
doesn't do anything. No. All it does is make your system loud when you turn it

01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:11.839
off. Yep. Hooray. Cuz 100% fan speed is like real

01:02:09.200 --> 01:02:15.440
loud. Real loud. It doesn't usually go that fast. I can

01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:20.160
tell you that much. All right. So, um, we actually had a couple Razer things

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:25.280
this week. So, number one was we had uh the Razer Kraken Forged headphones that

01:02:23.200 --> 01:02:30.559
we just released our unboxing of. And number two is that Razer did a press

01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:34.920
release about their Evil Genius branded

01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.920
esports gaming products.

01:02:35.359 --> 01:02:41.359
I'm going to let you take this one cuz if you saw my notes on this, I have no

01:02:38.640 --> 01:02:46.240
idea why this is a big deal. Me neither. Why are people Okay, good. Thank you.

01:02:43.680 --> 01:02:51.040
Why are people freaking out? Well, color schemes are a thing. But like

01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:53.760
people are freaking out in like negative ways though. They're freaking Well, they

01:02:52.640 --> 01:02:58.799
shouldn't because it doesn't matter. It's just another boxing so much. I mean

01:02:56.640 --> 01:03:02.559
for everything here. I probably have Steel. Yeah, there's a Steel Series 7H

01:03:00.640 --> 01:03:07.599
fanatic edition. That's my point. Steel Series has been doing it forever. Team

01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:09.440
Team Na'vi uh headset up there. They're

01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:12.319
yellow. Well, no, there's a blue one. There's also a blue one. There's a blue

01:03:10.720 --> 01:03:16.480
one for No, no, that's just a special edition. It's not an esports team. like

01:03:14.640 --> 01:03:21.760
this this whole sponsored thing is like are you going to are you going to like phone up Nike and be like yo Air Jordan

01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:26.720
shoes that's not cool man don't do like sponsored sho I don't know I mean I

01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:31.200
don't think it's a big deal in terms of like I don't care they look good though

01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:34.240
if an esports team you know puts their branding on a peripheral I don't I'm not

01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:37.760
going to buy it I'm also not going to be upset about it yeah I just I mean

01:03:36.160 --> 01:03:43.119
something to something to understand about this guys is that sports teams

01:03:40.799 --> 01:03:47.760
rely on sponsorship esports team sports teams they rely on sponsorship. And

01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:52.480
while frankly a lot of the time I mean it's no secret that there are esports

01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:57.359
players out there that wear the branded headset that their sponsor put on their

01:03:54.480 --> 01:04:02.039
head and then have like IM running underneath them and like just like put

01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:08.319
the cables kind of down their shirts like it is what it is. If you want to

01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:11.760
buy real gear don't buy things based on

01:04:08.319 --> 01:04:14.000
what someone uses on camera. buy things

01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:18.079
based on, you know, what they use off camera or buy things based on what you

01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:22.160
can actually try and you can actually find out works really well for yourself.

01:04:20.240 --> 01:04:26.960
You shouldn't make purchase decisions based on just well, you know, Joe from

01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:31.520
whatever said that it was great. Now, there are exceptions to this. Um, TTERS

01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:34.960
has a couple of mice that I actually feel pretty strongly are are quite cool.

01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:38.559
I forget what they're called now, but there's one there's the white raw one.

01:04:37.359 --> 01:04:43.920
Does that actually have a lot of input on it? Yeah, because I put my hand on the mouse and I went, "Oh, it's made for

01:04:41.680 --> 01:04:48.079
a big Russian dude." I was like, "I can't use this because I'm not a big

01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:50.799
Russian dude." Where that made a lot of sense to me. But rebranding existing

01:04:49.520 --> 01:04:53.920
products, if you don't feel strongly about the color scheme or You were

01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:57.200
thinking white raw. Yeah. Did I say white raw? Sapphira. Yeah. Safhira is

01:04:55.599 --> 01:05:01.280
the mouse. Okay. Okay. Yeah, the white raw Safhira mouse. Um, so I mean, if

01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:06.720
you're just rebranding an existing product, if you think the color scheme is great, then go for it. If you think

01:05:04.799 --> 01:05:10.960
Team Evil Genius is great and you want them to get a small commission on the

01:05:08.319 --> 01:05:15.760
sponsorship, go for it. It's a great way to support someone that you, you know,

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:19.440
feel strongly deserves the support. That's I think all there really is to

01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:22.960
it. It's uncomplicated. Yeah, they look really nice. Yeah, they look really

01:05:20.799 --> 01:05:26.559
good. The color scheme is really sharp. Like, it looks really good. I actually

01:05:25.200 --> 01:05:32.799
really like the color scheme on that keyboard. Yep. The keyboard looks amazing. Too bad it's uh uh too bad it's

01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:36.480
not Cherry MX sort of something. Yeah. I'm not into the keyboard, but I like

01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:40.000
the It looks good. Yeah, looks great. And if you if you like the switches that

01:05:38.319 --> 01:05:44.000
happen to be on it, then that's like great. You know, the design of the mouse

01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.960
pad looks nice. And most my mouse pads are one of those things where it's just

01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:50.799
like, okay, whatever. It's a mouse pad. Um, there's differences. There are

01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:54.319
differences. I personally really prefer QCK's. I won't use anything else. So, I

01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:58.319
guess I shouldn't say it's just a mouse pad, but if you don't already have a

01:05:56.640 --> 01:06:03.200
specific It's just a mouse pad. I will only use this one. If you if you if you

01:06:01.839 --> 01:06:07.599
have a specific mouse if you don't already have a specific mouse pad that you really really like, then it's worth

01:06:06.160 --> 01:06:13.039
a shot because I don't think it comes at a huge premium. Um I' I'd rather Okay,

01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:16.480
here. How about this? I would rather buy a peripheral that's branded around You

01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:20.559
know what, guys? Hit us up on Twitter. Tell us what you think about about

01:06:18.640 --> 01:06:25.200
sponsored branded peripherals. We'd love to hear it because there's tons. There's

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:30.240
ones for like Modern Warfare 3. Logitech did a Modern Warfare 3 thing. Um,

01:06:27.359 --> 01:06:33.119
there's ones for actual gamers. There's ones for I think that's about it, but I

01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:38.799
was going to try and come up with at least Well, there's there's gaming groups and there's individual gamers.

01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:42.079
That's true. Yeah. So, whole teams. I mean, the thing about particularly the

01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:46.000
whole team branded ones is I kind of look at those and I raise an eyebrow because there's no such thing as two

01:06:44.720 --> 01:06:50.000
gamers. Even on the same team, they're going to be like, "Yeah, I want exactly like that one." You know what? And

01:06:48.720 --> 01:06:55.200
another thing to actually along the lines of gamers who wear IM under their

01:06:52.319 --> 01:06:58.960
their sponsored headphones, um there are the rumors are abundant that Yonx, so if

01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:04.240
you don't follow badminton, you might not have any idea what Yanx is, but that

01:07:00.799 --> 01:07:06.720
Yanx actually makes special rackets for

01:07:04.240 --> 01:07:10.720
their sponsored players that have the the paint job of whatever the current

01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:15.319
high-end thing they're pushing is, but are actually the racket that that player

01:07:12.319 --> 01:07:15.319
likes.

01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:21.119
That's pretty funny. It makes sense. So, it makes sense. You're not gonna you're

01:07:19.839 --> 01:07:25.359
not going to like your professional players that you sponsor by giving them something that they don't

01:07:23.680 --> 01:07:29.359
like, even if it's a great product. There are great products that I just

01:07:27.200 --> 01:07:33.119
don't like. So, it's perfect. And I'm not even going

01:07:31.359 --> 01:07:36.720
to be as picky as a pro gamer. The the one thing that kind of ticks me off all

01:07:34.799 --> 01:07:40.720
the time is stuff like this. Giving the formidable pro gamers at Evil Geniuses

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:45.839
the fastest, smoothest glide to get the last hit on enemies effectively. It's

01:07:42.640 --> 01:07:47.680
like, shut up. The last hit on enemies

01:07:45.839 --> 01:07:50.799
effectively. Yeah. cuz the smoothest possible glab in your mouse pad is going

01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:55.520
to give you an actual noticeable advantage over some dude with a

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:58.160
cardboard. No. Like come on. Your last

01:07:55.520 --> 01:08:04.400
hitting things in League like or Dota, whatever. Like geez. But you got to look

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:10.000
at who it's marketed to. I mean I really feel like there's this divide between

01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:13.280
gamers and hardware enthusiasts where

01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.640
gamers I I feel like get lied to a lot

01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:18.480
and I feel like they're they're vulnerable to that. Yeah. Whereas

01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:22.000
hardware enthusiasts spend all their like this is what I used to do. I spent

01:08:19.839 --> 01:08:26.799
all my freaking time reading up about you know the bloody sensors in the mice

01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:30.239
and the you know micro you know laser reflections on the various surfaces to

01:08:29.120 --> 01:08:36.239
the point where I actually have no time for gaming. And that's really where I feel like there is there is room for

01:08:34.400 --> 01:08:39.440
someone to bridge the gap there a little bit. Maybe we should probably try a

01:08:37.679 --> 01:08:43.359
little bit harder to do that where we take some of these products and try and

01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:46.719
talk about sort of reading between the lines of the product marketing because

01:08:44.799 --> 01:08:50.719
quite frankly that mouse and that mouse pad probably provides an excellent

01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:56.080
gaming experience. I haven't used them yet, but I don't think there's going to

01:08:53.679 --> 01:09:00.880
be anything wrong with them. I can't find it, but someone in the chat can

01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:02.880
probably um say the quote, but there's

01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:08.880
one of the JDong is one of the guys on EG and he has a review of I think it was

01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:12.560
their mouse mat and if someone No, I don't want to click on something during

01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:17.040
the stream, but um and like the one guy's like, "Oh yeah, it makes my

01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:22.159
performance better and this gaming thing like stupid regurgitated crap." And then

01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:27.120
there's Jaydong's review and it's like, well, it wasn't as soft and supple as

01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:31.279
10,000 fan girls, but I think it was acceptable. And I was like, yes, there

01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:34.239
you go. See, that's cool. And it was funny. And he's like, yeah, I'm

01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:38.080
sponsored to say this, but here's something funny. Yeah. And then the

01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:42.080
other dude's like, here's something actually realistic that

01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:45.679
I don't mind saying. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Mark says, "I don't care

01:09:43.759 --> 01:09:49.679
where and if it's sponsored, I'll if I won't want to buy it, I'm going to try

01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:53.440
it. I don't care for them. Less stupid logos is better. It's funny you

01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:57.040
mentioned that because it's it's not like it's not going to have a logo on

01:09:55.440 --> 01:10:00.239
it. It just might have an Evil Genius logo instead of a Razor logo. Just food

01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:03.920
for thought. I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily. Usually they're not

01:10:02.400 --> 01:10:06.880
that good and just cost more for the sake of costing more. Um a lot of the

01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:11.840
times they're rebrands of other products. So it's it's whether or not you think that product's good. Although

01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:16.080
sometimes they do like add in five or 10 bucks because I was talking to a

01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:21.120
manufacturer about potentially doing a co-branded line of tech tips product and

01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:26.880
they figured by the time there's you know packaging and uh color changes and

01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:31.520
whatever whatever whatever if I even said I wanted a dollar commission on

01:10:29.120 --> 01:10:35.040
each one that would add about $4 to the end user

01:10:32.679 --> 01:10:38.800
price because the retailer is going to want additional markup there blah blah

01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:44.320
blah this and that. And I was like, "Oh, all right then. That's good to

01:10:42.040 --> 01:10:47.120
know." Sponsorship related products are useful sometimes for different color

01:10:45.679 --> 01:10:50.080
schemes. However, don't like the price premium. I think sponsor branded

01:10:48.719 --> 01:10:53.920
peripherals are cool. I like them, but they're pointless. Buy what you want.

01:10:52.320 --> 01:10:58.960
And that's where I stand. Companies can't sell their product with actual quality. I'm not going to buy it. That's

01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:03.199
interesting. So, you prefer a company to focus on their own brand and sell it

01:11:01.679 --> 01:11:09.040
that. But, but a lot of times they do because it's just the like that 7H. It's

01:11:06.480 --> 01:11:12.960
a 7H. It's just the fanatic edition which has yellow accents. It's still a

01:11:10.719 --> 01:11:17.600
7H though. Yeah, but they're selling you a 7H. Yes, you're buying a different

01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:21.040
version which is like colorized. So, they're still selling you the quality of

01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:25.040
the brand. Lots of love for the idea of better color schemes and supporting your

01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:29.679
favorite teams. Someone says, "Please lick Slick's ear for me, not on

01:11:27.320 --> 01:11:33.040
camera. I buy keyboards for feel and look. Looks good and goes to a team I

01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:36.480
like, then that's great. I have the Fanatic 7H, but I hate Fanatic." All

01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:39.600
right, then. But the color scheme on that headset is outstanding, isn't it,

01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:43.120
Tyler? I think it's a good way to support your favorite teams, even

01:11:41.360 --> 01:11:45.920
though, okay, Matio feels that the quality isn't as good as other products.

01:11:44.400 --> 01:11:51.120
And that is an interesting point because it's going to be difficult with again

01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:53.920
that that cost adder that a sponsorship

01:11:51.120 --> 01:11:58.480
adds to the spending more. Yeah. So, so it's going to be hard to take a top tier

01:11:55.600 --> 01:12:01.920
product like a $160 keyboard and then work in a reasonable amount of the

01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:05.360
margin to give to the esports team and have it not become a $200 keyboard all

01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:08.560
of a sudden. And then it's like, okay, well, now who's going to buy it? But

01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:13.360
then at the same time, like, okay, if if I was going out and buying a if I was

01:12:11.280 --> 01:12:19.360
buying, say, a keyboard and I knew exactly what keyboard I wanted and there

01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:21.840
was a 5 or $10 more variant that had say

01:12:19.360 --> 01:12:25.840
um EG on it and it was colorized like that, I'd probably go for it. One, I

01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:30.640
like Team EG. We have over 6,000 viewers. I think that's a new record. That is actually really cool. One, I

01:12:28.719 --> 01:12:35.199
really like Team EG. I like a lot of the guys on the team. In Control is really

01:12:32.080 --> 01:12:36.719
cool. Um, Jaydong's really cool. Huck's

01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:41.040
really cool. Like I I like a lot of the guys on the team and it looked so cool.

01:12:38.719 --> 01:12:45.120
Yep. I would play I would pay enough for just the recolorization in itself. So,

01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:48.080
Christian says, "The way I see it, if a big notorious company like Audio

01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:52.719
Technica started sponsoring themselves, then I'd be more skeptical." I'm afraid

01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:56.080
I don't quite understand. Uh, John Port says he bought an OCZ Fatality Series

01:12:54.960 --> 01:13:02.000
power supply, but I think it's the same as the original except with a sticker. Yes. And a red LED light. That's the

01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:04.480
point, though. Yeah. Yeah. The red LED is cool. Doesn't it also come with

01:13:03.360 --> 01:13:08.239
sleeving? Does a normal one? That's the Fatality 1000. Only the 1000 does

01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:13.679
individual sleeving. That was the first one to do individual sleeving. Speaking of OCZ going out of business, I always

01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:20.800
thought pro gamers wearing earphones under their headset was purely for isolation. Um, you can get headphones

01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:22.800
that isolate pretty well.

01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:27.920
That's a thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's like Bose Quiet Comfort 35. Hey, Brandon,

01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:33.280
what? Those are really good. What headphones do you have?

01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:36.640
QC15s rather. Sorry. Like you put them on and you're just like, "Oh, where'd

01:13:34.400 --> 01:13:39.679
everybody go?" Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I'll like yell at him from the door and

01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:44.159
he can't hear me. Well, that's probably him just ignoring you. No, he doesn't

01:13:41.679 --> 01:13:48.600
ignore me. He ignores me. I don't mind that. I Hey, all the Every Fanatic

01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:52.880
Edition 7 Oh, I think that's the same guy. I thought everyone who owned a 7H

01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:56.000
fanatic in the world was watching our stream. Hey, I like Fanatic, too.

01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:00.400
They're really cool. Yeah, Tiger Woods use Counter Strike for the win. I don't mind them personally, but I won't buy

01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:04.800
them at full price. Actually, that's funny you should mention that because Logitech always clears out the Modern

01:14:03.120 --> 01:14:10.159
Warfare branded peripherals for super cheap. You could get G9Xs for like 29

01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:13.760
bucks if they're Modern Warfare. Great mouse. I wish I bought like a half a

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:17.920
dozen of them. You can uh wrap them, too. Vinyl wrap them. I've seen people

01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:21.120
vinyl wrap G9Xs. Looks really cool. Awesome. So, if you like don't like

01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:25.120
Modern Warfare, you can still buy a cheap Modern Warfare peripheral and then vinyl wrap it and it's it's fine. All

01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:31.440
right, I'm going to let you take this one. Star Citizen cracks 32 million is

01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:35.199
the uh so is the name of the thread and

01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:38.480
then it was $31 million the day before

01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:40.080
and the original poster a skew is saying

01:14:38.480 --> 01:14:44.960
I don't understand why this game has raised so much cash it's ship reselling

01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:48.480
it it's ship reselling 100% so for so for a while there and why this burst

01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:52.400
happened I I'll get into why the burst happened because if you look at the

01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:56.640
trending it's already trending down um in a second but why they're actually

01:14:54.480 --> 01:15:00.960
making so money is they're selling large components in the game already. And the

01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:05.120
problem I have with this is that we cannot fly in the game yet. We cannot

01:15:03.040 --> 01:15:08.080
feel flight mechanics in any way of all these different ships. Yet, they're

01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:11.920
selling tons of them and they're hyping it like crazy. And one thing that bugs

01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:15.199
me, too, is they're hitting milestones and these multi-million dollar

01:15:13.679 --> 01:15:19.840
milestones are like, "Look, more ships that you can buy right now." So, they're

01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:23.440
getting more money, which is kind of bugging me. And they shut down the LTI

01:15:22.080 --> 01:15:27.440
system, which is lifetime insurance system, which a lot of the Kickstarter

01:15:25.120 --> 01:15:30.560
backers got. And I think if you backed early enough after the Kickstarter

01:15:29.280 --> 01:15:35.679
thing, I think you might have been able to get it, too. I'm not sure. Probably explain what lifetime insurance is.

01:15:33.280 --> 01:15:39.600
Lifetime Well, you can't lose your ship. You can't lose the hull. Yeah, you can

01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:42.800
lose like the weapons and cargo and whatnot. Yeah, but you can't lose the

01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:45.840
hull, so you can like fix it back up again, which is really nice. So, they

01:15:44.480 --> 01:15:49.600
got rid of that, but they got rid of that before you're able to fly the ships

01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:52.239
yet. Yeah, you're not able to fly the ships or try them out yet, which I'm

01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:58.640
okay with. I don't want everyone having insurance. I want there to be like when I'm like one of the Kickstarter back get

01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:02.880
it anymore. You can't buy in to be able to have it anymore. But um but no,

01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:08.400
that's been like that for a while. Old accounts have been able to buy ships that have If people want to like if

01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:13.040
people want to, you know, buy a bunch of ships or whatever and I can blow them up

01:16:10.480 --> 01:16:16.159
later, then whatever. But then they'll be on LTI, so it doesn't really matter.

01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:21.040
No, no, the ones that are buying now won't. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's that's what my point is though. That is why

01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:25.199
there was the surge. They took it away. So, right before they took it away,

01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:28.719
everyone went but buy all the stuff. So, there was this like oh my god milestone.

01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:32.000
Oh my god, another milestone immediately afterwards because of that. I'm still

01:16:30.320 --> 01:16:36.080
excited about the game. Me, too. Although we're getting pretty close to

01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:41.920
we should have uh combat soon and we'll see if it I wish I wish they dropped LTI

01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:45.120
like even a week after dog fighting because I've been I poured a little bit

01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:48.640
of money in and I've been really careful since then because it's always like

01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:54.800
there's such a draw like oh my god that ship looks so cool and there's all this cool stuff but then it's like my ship

01:16:52.400 --> 01:16:58.000
might already be good enough for me once I make some modifications to it and

01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:02.640
since I'm just going to be parking it in the back of Linus' ship anyway while we

01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:07.760
fly around together, you know, exploring the universe.

01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:11.440
Yeah, basically. So, like I I just It's going to be awesome. Uh I I wish I could

01:17:09.440 --> 01:17:16.239
fly the ship. Yeah, that's it. I'm I'm really waiting for dog fighting. I think

01:17:14.080 --> 01:17:21.679
Star C is still like 32 million sounds like a lot. GTA 5 cost what? Like $500

01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:28.560
million to make. I don't I think it was 50 or not 500.

01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:30.400
50. GTA 5 budget. Maybe it was 500. Hold

01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:35.360
on. Budget. Budget. Budget. biggest budget ever, etc., etc., etc. Someone

01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:41.040
says cost more than an American city. Here we go. Uh, 265 million. Okay. So,

01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:44.960
yeah, GTA V cost 265 million. They have 32. Yeah. And this game is supposed to

01:17:43.040 --> 01:17:48.159
be way bigger in scale. So, so it's a lot of money, but it's still not an

01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:52.239
insane amount of money. So, when you consider when you consider other things.

01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:55.360
So, I'm a little bit worried, but I think dog fighting can either completely

01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:58.880
make or break it in. And Chris seems like a cool guy. Well, he's so

01:17:57.120 --> 01:18:01.920
dedicated. Yeah, that's why I'm not that worried. I had the opportunity to meet

01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:07.120
him personally, which is kind of cool because mo Yeah, I know.

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:11.600
Because most uh most Kickstarter projects you find just like it's a it's

01:18:10.080 --> 01:18:14.719
a guess. You don't know the integrity of the person that you're like I'm pretty

01:18:13.120 --> 01:18:19.360
sure Star is going to be fine, but I'm still I'm still kind of staying away from it a little bit until I can fly

01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:25.199
around and then I know that the second I can fly around and it's awesome, I'm going to be like, "Oh my god, I'm so

01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:28.239
excited. I'm so stoked." But I've just I've been trying to stay away from it a

01:18:26.719 --> 01:18:33.040
little Speaking of Kickstarter and flying around, oh, brilliant segueing.

01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:37.600
MGS Star posted on the forum this amazing video about a Kickstarter

01:18:35.120 --> 01:18:42.159
campaign that I had to fund. Look at this thing. It is a smartphone

01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:46.080
controlled paper airplane. So, it's a battery and propeller that goes onto the

01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.679
back of a paper airplane that allows you to fly it around with a Bluetooth smart

01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:54.640
enabled smartphone or tablet. So, right now, or actually not right now because

01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:57.199
they have they have busted the Android

01:18:54.640 --> 01:19:00.400
uh stretch goal. So, at the beginning it was iPhone only, but I just kind of went

01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:05.760
for it. I was like, "Yeah, whatever. This is going to destroy the stretch target." So, I'll be I'll be flying this

01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:08.800
around on my Android phone, no problem. But, we just got an iPad Mini anyway.

01:19:07.280 --> 01:19:13.199
So, you'll be able to fly it or we'll be able to fly it and try it out. But, uh I

01:19:11.040 --> 01:19:16.719
hope they show it a little bit uh later. Uh on the Kickstarter page, it shows it.

01:19:15.280 --> 01:19:20.719
No, they they show it later in the video, I think. Hold on. We'll just we'll let it keep flying. But, it goes

01:19:19.280 --> 01:19:25.040
for about 10 minutes apparently, and they're going to be shipping them, I think, in March or April next year. It's

01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:28.400
not that expensive when you consider what an RC aircraft costs. It's just a

01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:32.960
30. Like, it's really not that bad. And there's not much to break about it, which is really cool. So, the propeller

01:19:31.120 --> 01:19:36.560
is actually at the back of the plane, which means that if you go down nose

01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:41.520
first into something, it's a lot less likely to cause serious problems for

01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:45.520
you. Although, it's not crash proof. No. As they claim Oh, look at it go. So

01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:52.480
awesome. It's cool how he slows it down when it comes close and he just takes off. I know. I love it. So the original

01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:54.800
article was from uh Tech PowerUp or Tweet Town rather. Tweet Town. Tweet

01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:59.920
Town. Got to make sure we give credit where credit's due. So there it is. So you guys can see there's the uh the

01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:03.679
receiver. So the transmitter will obviously be your phone or tablet. Here

01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:08.719
are the electronics. And then there's just a simple

01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:14.640
um piece, whatever this is called that goes back to a motor and a rudder and a

01:20:13.120 --> 01:20:18.760
propeller. Looks pretty simple. Looks balling. I

01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:24.719
love it. 4,400 backers with 56 days to go. It

01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:31.440
just went up. Amazing. I love how they like crushed their goal. I I I backed

01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:32.560
that so fast. I I actually had no idea

01:20:31.440 --> 01:20:36.719
you backed it. That's kind of cool. Yeah. As soon as I saw it, I was like, "Oh, yeah." Well, I know. I'm pretty

01:20:34.719 --> 01:20:41.679
stoked to try. I love RC crap. Yeah, I know. So, cheap RC crap that's difficult

01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:43.920
to break. It's cool because a lot of the times what's going to get damaged is

01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:48.320
like the wings and stuff. It's like, dude, it's a paper airplane. Let's make

01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:51.520
another one. Exactly. Who cares? It's like you show up at the park with like a

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:58.640
bunch of spare batteries and like a bunch of paper. No way. Oh, come on. I

01:20:55.199 --> 01:21:00.239
don't know if that really counts.

01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:05.199
They could have been. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Okay, so guys, Black Friday

01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:09.360
deals are cool, but it's not worth people dying over or getting hurt. So,

01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:15.120
there's actually a site called Black Friday Death Count, and uh it's actually

01:21:12.400 --> 01:21:20.320
it's being updated for for Black Friday right now, and it seems to be getting

01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:23.440
worse. Yeah. So, they record all of the injuries and deaths. So, there was that

01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:29.440
I actually remember the Toys R Us shooting. I remember hearing about that back in 2008. Um Target shoppers step

01:21:27.440 --> 01:21:34.719
over Walter Vance as he collapses and dies. I remember that. 20 people injured

01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:39.360
in I think it was um no no it was 10 people injured in a stampede back or

01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:42.880
four people rather 10 10 in the so I remember this one too that was back

01:21:41.360 --> 01:21:47.120
before we really had Black Friday in Canada I was like what what's a black

01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:51.280
Friday it's like I thought it meant that people died

01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:54.480
it wasn't until I worked for a retailer that I that I understood that it's

01:21:53.040 --> 01:21:57.840
supposed to be the first day of the year that retailers are in the black not in

01:21:56.320 --> 01:22:00.520
the red in terms of profitability which it isn't because everyone loses money on

01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:04.400
Black Friday. All right, so injuries and

01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:10.159
deaths this year looks like the longest list yet. So someone shot carrying a TV

01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:15.400
home from Target. There's a brawl sends one police officer to hospital. Virginia

01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:17.920
man stabbed over a parking

01:22:15.400 --> 01:22:20.880
space and you can see the links. So apparently there's been a death now. A

01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:25.840
teen returning home from Black Friday shopping falls asleep at the wheel is killed in the wreck. That one I think

01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:30.480
you could debate whether that's it's a little bit. Yeah, I I would if if he

01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:36.000
camped out like crazy or something. I kind of get it. But like

01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:41.120
Yeah, just buy things online. Hey, like please just go buy things online. Yeah.

01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:46.080
I mean, okay, you saved $40 or even if you saved

01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:47.360
$400, is it really worth it? But

01:22:46.080 --> 01:22:50.320
comparing to online, you're probably not going to save $400. That's true. A lot

01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:55.679
of people have like straight up equivalent Black Friday sales. a lot of great deals online. Like check out

01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:59.280
Amazon. There's some really good sales, you know. I didn't find anything that

01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:03.199
appealing. I saw the um I saw the Audio Technica M50s. Yeah, those were at

01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:08.400
$99.99, I think. Uh Brandon, did you buy those M50? Sold out. They sold out. Did

01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:13.120
you buy those M50s? Yeah. Yeah, Brandon got them. I think they sold out. Ran out

01:23:10.719 --> 01:23:17.080
of stock. I was thinking about it, but um Have you seen Have you heard of um uh

01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:24.239
what is it called? Uh Outlet Amazon. No. If you

01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:30.400
Google Amazon outlets, uh, let me see if I can find it real quick. Amazon

01:23:27.320 --> 01:23:32.719
outlets. And be sure to use our

01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:36.320
affiliate code. Yeah. Linus TechTips-20. So, yeah, if you Google Amazon outlets,

01:23:34.400 --> 01:23:40.560
there's an outlet on Amazon where they're kind of getting rid of stuff and

01:23:38.480 --> 01:23:43.840
they have crazy sales all the time. Really? I haven't even heard of this

01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:49.199
before. Yeah. Well, you go. Apparently, it's a thing. So, there's like men's

01:23:45.679 --> 01:23:52.400
cuff links, for example.

01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:56.480
Yeah. So it's like H. All righty then.

01:23:52.400 --> 01:24:01.280
So moving on to our next topic. Dell is

01:23:56.480 --> 01:24:04.960
teasing. I know. I know. Dell is teasing

01:24:01.280 --> 01:24:06.400
a 4K 24 in monitor. Now you and I have

01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:11.520
had this conversation before. How do you feel about the 24 in size? What? Like

01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:17.120
why why the hell do we not have 2560 by440 or 2560

01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:21.920
x600? Why the hell do we not have that? Because like I went out and I love 24

01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:28.400
in. 24 in is like bam, I'm there with 16x10 24 in like yes like it. But it's

01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:32.239
always been like the best I could get was 1920 x 1200 because it's like yeah

01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:39.360
there's there's no higher resolution that size. Oh wow. I didn't even know it

01:24:34.719 --> 01:24:41.440
was wide gamut. Yeah. 99% Adobe RGB

01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:46.560
coverage. Check my notes, bro. That's like that's equivalent to Okay, so

01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:51.760
that's equivalent in terms of RGB coverage to they're advertising a claim

01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:58.159
delta E of less than two. So this is basically with 1 billion colors. Yeah.

01:24:54.560 --> 01:25:00.719
So this is a 10- bit panel. Yeah. Holy

01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:06.480
crap. Read my notes, dude. Oh, three-year

01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:11.120
warranty. You can get a premium pixel guarantee. Details are unknown for this

01:25:09.360 --> 01:25:15.440
resolution screen, but if it's like the 32 inch of the same res, it'll be a zero

01:25:13.440 --> 01:25:20.920
bright pixel guarantee. Yeah, it's on there. No, it's it's they have one. Holy

01:25:19.080 --> 01:25:28.480
crap. You know, Dell used to be

01:25:24.440 --> 01:25:30.800
such a driver of the LCD industry.

01:25:28.480 --> 01:25:34.719
Remember when Dell was, you know, Dell and Apple were the only ones that had

01:25:32.480 --> 01:25:40.080
the coahones to release a 30-inch monitor? Dell was the only one driving

01:25:37.120 --> 01:25:45.040
things. The 2405 FPW is legendary because it was a great monitor and at a

01:25:42.480 --> 01:25:47.920
fair price. Yeah. No pricing yet. No pricing yet for this one on their

01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:52.239
website officially. I I looked elsewhere. I I did all I did everything

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:56.000
I could. No pricing. Well, basically I felt like they were asleep at the wheel

01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:58.719
for the last few years. It's like, yeah, here's kind of that one we did and it's

01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:04.159
like kind of different, but like whatever. We made the ID slightly uglier

01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:08.880
looking. Um, sorry about that. But, you know, here's some QC issues with

01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:14.080
revision A1 or A2 or B2 or whatever. Um, this is an opportunity that has been

01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:20.159
waiting for someone to grab it by the horns and place a bloody order for

01:26:17.280 --> 01:26:23.679
panels. Commit and bring it to market and we will show you how much we want

01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:28.960
it. I am really excited about this because it's one thing to talk about

01:26:25.679 --> 01:26:31.280
stupid things like that 50-in or 55 in

01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:35.199
4K TV. You know what? Who cares? It's 30 Hz input and on top of that, the image

01:26:33.679 --> 01:26:39.120
quality, the contrast ratio is apparently terrible. Like just terrible.

01:26:37.360 --> 01:26:45.360
You might as well buy a 1080p. And isn't it like 30 Hz? Yeah. Yeah. 30 Hz only

01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:47.679
because it's HDMI in who cares. So this

01:26:45.360 --> 01:26:54.239
on the other hand, yeah, it's it's made by Dell, so I

01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:55.520
inherently trust it. Yep. Oh, I've I've

01:26:54.239 --> 01:27:00.000
never had a Dell monitor that I've been like, "Oh, wow. That was built poorly."

01:26:57.440 --> 01:27:04.000
My wife's still using our 2405 FTW. I was sitting with you the other day when

01:27:01.679 --> 01:27:08.960
we found the buy, sell, trade thread that I bought by 2405 FPW off of. I left

01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:13.600
the guy feedback in his thread on Red Flag deals. That was what, 2006? I

01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:19.360
thought it was five somewhere around there. Yeah, whatever. Anyway, um so I I

01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:22.719
so I was like, "Oh, wow. That monitor's still working. It's still on my wife's

01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:27.280
desk." Like eight years later, it's starting to fade. I have I have LG

01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:32.719
monitors that have been lasting like I have an LG monitor that got booted in

01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:37.280
the screen really hard while someone was running through my house and it fell

01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:40.560
flat on its back and like got nailed and there's just a little crack thing. The

01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:43.679
rest of the screen has lost no quality and it still works and it's like 10

01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:48.480
years old or something. Did I tell you Rumble knocked over her 2405?

01:27:46.320 --> 01:27:52.800
He jumped on it and knocked it over flat onto the desk just the way he did with

01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:57.040
my 30 in. I'll kill him. I'll kill him if he breaks. If he breaks my 279 Q,

01:27:55.199 --> 01:28:02.000
I'll kill him. Mark my words. I think that's illegal. I'll skin him.

01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:06.639
Wow. I was so mad. That's like not okay. You

01:28:05.440 --> 01:28:12.880
should just lock him out of that room. I'm I'm I'm kidding. I know you're kidding. I mean, if I if I haven't

01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:17.120
killed Rocket yet, I'm not going to kill He's been peeing on the couch again. Not

01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:22.239
just on the couch. All over the window and the blinds. And like, it is such a

01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:27.760
mess to clean up. My mom my mom tried to train my dog to like go to the washroom

01:28:25.280 --> 01:28:31.679
inside on this like mat thing and that was a terrible idea. And it like kind of

01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:37.920
worked but then stopped working and then it was Yeah, it was a mess. She she got

01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:39.000
it a diaper but it won't it won't go in

01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:43.120
the diaper. So she puts the diaper on it

01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:45.760
when it comes inside so it won't go and but then it'll like complain when it

01:28:44.639 --> 01:28:50.560
needs to go. So my mom will take it off and put it outside and then it goes.

01:28:48.960 --> 01:28:55.040
So she can just use one all the time. It's fantastic. I love Chloe. That's

01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:58.480
fantastic. I love Chloe. She's awesome. She's pretty awesome. She's awesome. We

01:28:56.960 --> 01:29:03.520
should totally do a video about your dog.

01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:06.080
Your dog's awesome. His mom is like a

01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:09.360
genius dog trainer. Like genius dog trainer. My dog can'ting. If you lean

01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:14.719
forward, she'll come up and scratch your back. Yeah, I'll do that, too. Thank you. Thank you. That's fantastic. Uh she

01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:17.600
can play the drums on Tupperware. She can put herself in Tupperware. If you

01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:20.239
drop money, she'll grab it and take it to his mom.

01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:26.400
I think my favorite though is when you're like she falls over and she's

01:29:24.080 --> 01:29:29.120
like and even if I do it like she doesn't

01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:34.480
even have to listen to me. I don't have any treats or anything. Yeah. All right. So, moving on to our next topic. And

01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:39.120
she's a Chihuahua. The US government caught pirating military software. It's

01:29:37.360 --> 01:29:43.280
like who else were they going to sell it to if not you? Do you realize what

01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:46.400
you're doing? Well, they didn't catch them because of

01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:49.440
like too many installs. They caught them because they just like talked about how

01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:57.639
many they had installed and they were like, "Wait, what?" They're like, "Yeah." Like, "But you only but you only

01:29:53.639 --> 01:29:59.159
bought. That's not a thing."

01:29:57.639 --> 01:30:06.239
So they So they pirated around

01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:08.000
$250 million worth of software. They

01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:13.199
were sued for the total amount and managed to settle at 50 million because

01:30:10.320 --> 01:30:16.960
we're in the US military and we don't have any money because our government

01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:20.159
shuts down. No, sorry. Sorry. I shouldn't be taking cracks at Americans.

01:30:18.320 --> 01:30:23.040
I love you guys. Um I was more saying like they're just so big and powerful

01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:26.639
that they could probably just be like, "Yeah, this is how much we're paying you." Yeah. And if you don't like it,

01:30:25.440 --> 01:30:31.440
then we'll never buy anything from you again and you won't exist because we're the US military. And that was the thing

01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:36.320
like the a statement came up from the guys that made the software and they're like, "Yep, yep, yep. No, we're still

01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:41.360
working with them in the future. So they they purchased licenses for five

01:30:38.719 --> 01:30:46.800
servers and 150 standalone devices. They ended up installing it on 93 servers and

01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:53.440
over 9,000 standalone devices. Over 9,000.

01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:55.360
Just insane. I absolutely insane.

01:30:53.440 --> 01:30:59.520
Completely offthe-wall. I love it. And it's like, you know, the funny thing is

01:30:57.040 --> 01:31:02.960
the RAIAA and the MPAA are going to run around trying to put people in jail for

01:31:01.040 --> 01:31:08.960
pirate. Like who goes to jail for this? No one. Yeah. No. So,

01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:13.600
and I love how sometimes you get sued for this and you get sued for like way

01:31:11.360 --> 01:31:18.080
more than percentage of worth. No, no, no, no, no. We'll settle for one. Yeah,

01:31:15.679 --> 01:31:22.480
it's okay. Don't worry about it. It's like it's not right. Okay. So, instead

01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:28.880
of us buying uh how many licenses of Creative Cloud do we have? Three, right?

01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:30.560
Brandon, Edel, and then you. So, instead

01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:34.320
of buying three licenses, we should just buy one. And then if Adobe sues us for

01:31:32.639 --> 01:31:38.719
like pirating the rest of our stuff, think, oh, we'll just pay you for one. Yeah, we'll just don't worry about it.

01:31:36.719 --> 01:31:42.080
We paid you for one, so that one fifth, right? That's Yeah, we're paying a

01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:49.520
little bit over one. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. It's all good. We got this. You know, be cool.

01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:54.080
So, speaking of being cool, this is ridiculous. Um, the city of Vancouver,

01:31:52.080 --> 01:31:58.000
that's where we live proudly. Oh, amazing. Van's doorork knobs, which I

01:31:56.239 --> 01:32:02.080
thought was a joke. Like I really did think it was a honestly this this was I

01:32:00.480 --> 01:32:06.400
can't say this on the air but I accidentally scrolled through it. Um so

01:32:04.400 --> 01:32:11.920
the city of Vancouver has amended its building code to outlaw the use of those

01:32:09.120 --> 01:32:18.159
wrist twisting devices in all new construction including private homes.

01:32:14.639 --> 01:32:20.400
Door knobs had already been uh a non a

01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:24.480
non thing in large buildings but the new ruling effective in March will affect

01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:28.560
private homes and large buildings. Uh, however, it will not affect existing

01:32:26.639 --> 01:32:35.040
homes. So, it looks like I will not have to retrofit my house to remove doorork

01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:36.880
knobs. Why do we really? And this is

01:32:35.040 --> 01:32:42.800
from the star the star.com. I kind of get it for public buildings. I don't

01:32:39.679 --> 01:32:46.159
really understand banning it for private

01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:47.840
housing. I mean, I and the funny thing

01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:52.560
is like people praising it like there's a quote from a professor professor

01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:59.440
specializing in universal design. That's very progressive of Vancouver. Levers

01:32:55.040 --> 01:33:01.440
make access easier. Levers. I'm sorry.

01:32:59.440 --> 01:33:05.120
No, never mind. Yeah, levers. So, so I mean, we're not banning having things on

01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:10.960
doors. Like, levers are still okay. And I will say that yes, I do indeed think

01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:13.280
that levers are easier to use. However,

01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:18.080
why ban them? It just seems excessive. I I do get it

01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:22.000
for public buildings. Yeah, okay. I get that accessibility, what not? What? But

01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:26.480
like if someone's like, "I really want to have doorork knobs on my own house,"

01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:32.400
they should be able to probably put doorork knobs. So yeah, I just I just

01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:35.679
you Why are we wasting energy on this? The doororknob. Okay, so there's people

01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:39.120
saying, "I say good riddance. It never functioned well," explains Jerry. I

01:33:37.280 --> 01:33:43.040
don't view it as a good piece of design. Okay. And then someone else is like,

01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:45.920
"Uh, blah blah blah. I I have a strong feeling about the hardware. Doorork

01:33:44.400 --> 01:33:52.159
knobs are lovely. They're the jewelry of the door." Like, you know what? everyone

01:33:49.120 --> 01:33:54.400
just it doesn't matter so much that the

01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:58.320
the reason why I'm surprised by it and kind of like what the hell is why anyone

01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:02.080
bothered to do anything about it. I'm not necessarily that mad that it changed

01:34:00.080 --> 01:34:06.239
if I bought a new house and it's like oh there aren't doorork knobs. That's okay.

01:34:04.639 --> 01:34:09.840
Probably my house doesn't have have doorork knobs. I had to think about it.

01:34:08.080 --> 01:34:13.280
Oh, good point. I don't know if my parents does. There is one. The external

01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:16.960
garage uses a doorork knob. Okay. So, I would have to I would have to not have

01:34:14.639 --> 01:34:21.920
that there. Yes, we have at least one. Yes. I don't know if our front door does

01:34:19.040 --> 01:34:26.960
at my parents house, but the garage door does, just like yours. Does it matter?

01:34:24.639 --> 01:34:30.320
No. People freaking out over Google Glass again. Speaking of which, I just

01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:34.960
got mine. If you watched Net Daily today, then you'll have seen that. Have

01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:37.280
you had anyone? No one's even noticed. I

01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:42.159
went to a movie theater with them. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of No one gave any

01:34:39.440 --> 01:34:45.679
cares. So, it was the same guy as last time,

01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:50.920
but he's banned it from his diner. He's asked people to remove the $1,500

01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:54.000
headset or leave.

01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:56.320
Um, so it's the same guy. You remember

01:34:54.000 --> 01:35:00.560
the like bar or whatever? The pub. The same owner owns this place. Yep. So like

01:34:58.480 --> 01:35:04.840
it's not that surprising. I mean, okay. Blah blah blah. It's about how much the

01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:09.840
guy freaked out is hilarious. Oh my god, if he doesn't want

01:35:07.440 --> 01:35:13.520
to lose my continued revenue, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's like,

01:35:11.120 --> 01:35:16.960
settle down. Go somewhere else. Yeah, I think it's off. It's going to get more

01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:20.000
interesting when prescription Google Glass is a thing. Um, you know, it's

01:35:18.719 --> 01:35:26.560
like, "Yeah, I need you to take off your prescription glasses or you can't come in here." You can't see if I take them

01:35:23.360 --> 01:35:28.360
off. Yeah, they're so uncomfortable.

01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:32.960
They're like super uncomfortable. Detachable. That would be kind of cool.

01:35:30.400 --> 01:35:38.800
But then maybe that would add um build quality problems. Yeah.

01:35:36.480 --> 01:35:41.600
I don't know, man. Well, I think that's pretty much it for

01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:45.120
this week. Thank Oh, do you have uh build bugs? I do not. You do not build

01:35:43.440 --> 01:35:48.880
bugs. Okay, thank you guys very much for watching the WAN Show today. Big thanks

01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:52.960
to our special guest, Kyle from New Egg TV. And thank you guys for watching. I

01:35:51.360 --> 01:35:57.040
think I already said that once. It's a good thing we're not keeping on going because we're going to have a repeat of

01:35:55.280 --> 01:36:00.960
last week and I don't think anyone wants to see that. Peace out guys and we'll

01:35:59.120 --> 01:36:04.719
see you again next week. If you tuned in late guys, we will have the archive up

01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:08.560
in a timely manner today because we didn't have any technical difficulties.

01:36:06.400 --> 01:36:14.080
I I want to take a moment to explain why the archive takes so long to put up

01:36:10.480 --> 01:36:16.400
sometimes. It has to do with um any

01:36:14.080 --> 01:36:20.719
technical issues during the stream that cause us to have to take the footage and

01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:24.080
convert it from variable frame rate footage to non-variable frame rate

01:36:22.480 --> 01:36:27.840
footage, then cut it back together, re-export it, then re-upload it in order

01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:31.920
to not lose an enormous amount of quality in that process. We have to

01:36:30.080 --> 01:36:36.159
output extremely large files. And because the show is so long, it's really

01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:41.360
a timeconuming both for the export and for the upload. So by the time it's

01:36:38.400 --> 01:36:46.400
actually up, it's like midday Saturday and we like have things to do. Yeah. And

01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:50.639
then I can't really make the time stamps below it because I'm out doing stuff or

01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:53.840
whatever. It's just it becomes a massive but when it can go up right away then

01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:56.719
we'll get it up right away. Thanks guys. Speaking of one thing before we leave,

01:36:55.360 --> 01:37:00.159
actually speaking of the variable frame rate problem, a lot of people have been

01:36:58.719 --> 01:37:06.480
talking about Shadow Play lately and been trying to use it and having problems editing videos like we did. Oh,

01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:09.280
it's that. Is it variable frame rate recording? It's variable frame rate

01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:14.480
recording. I think I've read a bunch of stuff on it and apparently one of the ways you can fix it is by converting it

01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:17.520
in programs like Handbreak. Okay. But then I have people that have found that

01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:20.560
that's not really helping and stuff because if you pull Shadow Play, if you

01:37:19.360 --> 01:37:26.560
watch Shadow Play footage in something like Windows Media Player, it's perfect. But then if you try to edit it in

01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:31.760
something like Premiere, the audio and video become unaligned. If you watch my

01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:33.280
Battlefield 4 graphics cards comparison,

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:37.920
that's exactly what used to happen with Wancho. Yeah. If and if you watch the

01:37:35.440 --> 01:37:41.440
Yeah, exactly. So, like I wonder if that's it. You know what, guys? Um, for

01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:45.440
anyone who's been struggling with this with Shadow Play, I'm gonna go ahead.

01:37:43.360 --> 01:37:50.159
I'm gonna find out if there's a way to uh you know, maybe I'll just tweet this

01:37:47.400 --> 01:37:53.920
out, but I'll I'll tweet out the uh the video that I use as my guide every time,

01:37:52.639 --> 01:37:57.840
embarrassingly enough. I can never remember how to do it, but I use as my

01:37:55.920 --> 01:38:04.159
guide for how to how to fix that problem. It actually only takes um a

01:38:01.280 --> 01:38:08.560
couple minutes to reync things. So, I think it's in my favorite my favorite

01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:13.040
videos, but it's awesome. Here it is. It only has 10,000 views, which means not

01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:16.880
enough people are watching it. Or here, actually, I can just show you guys what

01:38:14.080 --> 01:38:24.000
it's called. There. So, it's tutorial convert LV to MP4, no re-encode, and

01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:25.760
fixed XSplit sync problems. So, guys,

01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:28.480
watch that. It's everything you need to know, and it's completely free. All

01:38:27.040 --> 01:38:32.239
right, peace out guys. See you next week. Thanks, guys. See you.