AMD Borrows Intel’s Business Plan – Ryzen 2 Review

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2018-05-06 · 1,078 words · ~5 min read
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0:00 over the last five years it seems like pretty much
0:03 everyone has uh let's say noticed Intel's consumer
0:08 divisions tick tick tick tick eventually talk
0:14 approach to generational performance improvements including folks at AMD
0:20 but then on the surface AMD seems to have pulled a page
0:27 right out of Intel's playbook with their second generation AMD ryzen desktop
0:32 processors but is there more to these than meets
0:36 the eye well i'm going to let you know after
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1:03 so what's the deal here is AMD replacing ryzen 3 ryzen 5 and ryzen 7
1:09 with ryzen 2. not quite
1:14 while these are second generation the ryzen 7 2700x
1:20 and the ryzen 5 2600x clocking in at 8
1:23 and 6 cores respectively are not technically zen two
1:28 that's not going to come until later so what we're getting now are higher boost
1:33 clocks with xfr applying to all cores
1:37 and this one's pretty exciting up to a 34
1:42 improvement to cash latency with AMD claiming a theoretical three percent
1:48 performance bump from that second point alone
1:55 we're also getting up to dual channel ddr4 2933 support on the brand new
2:02 x470 chipset motherboards which from
2:06 even our early testing translates into much better compatibility with
2:10 high-speed memory kits so
2:14 all of this adds up to something that AMD is calling
2:18 zen plus based on a tweaked 12 nanometer
2:22 process that's been fined tuned to push rated clock speeds higher without
2:27 increasing the rated power consumption now of course we're gonna have to test
2:32 all these claims so while we wait for this to uh
2:38 rise ah
2:41 it's a yeast joke let's go over our test setup
2:46 we'll be using both Intel's latest and AMD's previous gen consumer processors
2:52 which ah it's done already
2:55 go ahead and cut oh my god this joke is so i'm sorry that whole thing with the
2:59 oven was just a lead into a joke about
3:02 delicious rison crust why don't we just get into the benchmarks
3:07 starting with our gaming stuff
3:10 and yes more terrible puns how surprising
3:16 ryzen's second gen is ever so slightly
3:19 faster than ryzen first gen deus ex mankind divided barely cared far cry 5
3:25 actually got 5 to 7 more FPS and cs go
3:28 actually this one was a standout very nice
3:32 the differences though are less noticeable in 3d mark and unigine
3:36 superposition putting second gen close enough that we technically observed
3:41 higher numbers on our first gen chips
3:44 and of course when it comes to gaming Intel still steals the show
3:50 now let's move on to productivity
3:53 here things take a more dramatic swing so our 2700x
3:59 absolutely creams the last gen 1800 x
4:03 and r testing with significantly higher scores in cinebench and ASUS real bench
4:07 and shaving a cool 1 minute 11 seconds
4:10 off the classroom render time in blender the 1800x already beat out the core i7
4:17 8700k in most of these so the gap then
4:20 is that much wider this time around impressive
4:24 and it looks like at least some of this is due to the improvements to cache
4:29 latency with our testing in ida 64 showing a pretty significant improvement
4:33 of around 25 with higher bandwidth and improved
4:37 memory latency to boot of course what would a review of a new
4:41 CPU be without overclocking results
4:45 let's go to level three bam
4:49 so our 2600x still didn't want to play ball with our
4:53 pre-release firmware but our 2700x with
4:57 the auto tweak feature gave us predictably better results although
5:02 these gains are mainly limited to highly threaded workloads
5:06 lightly threaded or gaming workloads understandably actually suffer slightly
5:10 compared to the 100 megahertz faster stock xfr clocks
5:16 power consumption is still higher than coffee lake but that's not really a
5:20 surprise what is interesting is that under load our new chips are more power
5:27 hungry we think because precision boosts 2 is keeping the CPU at higher speeds
5:33 more often this also translates into higher
5:36 temperatures which means we wouldn't really recommend doing a ton of
5:41 overclocking with your stock cooler as cool as the new wraith max RGB coolers
5:47 might be so then at 329 for the high-end ryzen 7 2700x
5:53 and 229 for the six-core ryzen 5 2600x
5:58 both of them 30 dollars more than their non-x counterparts AMD has managed to
6:04 claw back a bit of the bang for the buck proposition that they enjoyed with
6:08 ryzen's first generation release and perhaps more importantly
6:12 even though this is a new CPU and chipset the obvious stability issues
6:18 with high speed memory in particular that prevented us from making a clear
6:22 recommendation last time around are gone
6:26 so let's not kid ourselves this is every bit as incremental as Intel's move from
6:31 sky lake to kaby lake and we are disappointed that it's not zen 2 yet
6:37 but second generation ryzen is a bit more
6:41 worth your money than last time which is a good thing
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