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The WAN Show: Nintendo Won E3 & 30FPS is Dumb - June 13th, 2014

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0:01 all right guys welcome to the WAN Show not the most organized one that we've

0:05 ever started i didn't even do my hair or change my shirt and you're like wearing

0:09 a firefighter shirt which is of course the the best Linus TechTip shirt of all

0:13 you're wearing it i know i know i I we we both failed we're both bad people

0:18 okay and this is a bad show as long as we're equally terrible i actually think

0:22 it's a fantastic show it's a great show we have tons of stuff you guys this week

0:26 we actually I we say that every week but we do have a ton of stuff this week he

0:30 was just at E3 which is the

0:33 uh adult Adult Entertainment Expo adult

0:37 adult no oh oh adult i pretended to

0:41 misunderstand and also not know how adult was spelled which is funny because

0:48 Wow oh how was the trip it was It was uh Am

0:53 I going through everything it's a long story yeah no I don't care it was It was

0:58 actually pretty good the most surprising thing was that E3 is like not a presson

1:03 event like nope not at all they have

1:06 signs all over the place like "Oh presson event blah blah blah blah blah."

1:09 And then the lineup for will call for people that bought their tickets was the

1:13 longest one you know it's funny because it's like CES where it's industry blah

1:18 blah blah only and you walk around and like most of the people there are just

1:21 off the street yeah but there was actually a considerable amount of people that just bought their ticket you know

1:26 how at like CES you had to like at least be friends with someone it's like no you

1:30 could just straight up buy your ticket and a lot of people did it like there was some mom and her like 12-year-old

1:35 kid that were just walking around like probably like a prodigy game dev

1:40 yeah that was it was Yeah that that was

1:43 weird and like at at PAX East when we

1:47 went to Oculus I was able to walk up and be like "Hey we're press can we get a

1:51 can we get something and they were like "Well we don't have any interview um

1:55 like time slots open but we can sit you down and run you through all the

1:59 different demos and have a guy talk to you but he just can't be on camera."

2:03 We're like "Okay cool e3 walk up and they're like "No press stuff wait wait

2:08 in line." It's like "This is a supposed to be a presson event and you have no

2:13 press stuff." So I had to wait in line multiple times because I couldn't even

2:17 like hop systems to try all the different games and stuff but then it

2:20 ended up being awesome because I was able to like find Palmer in the booth

2:24 and be like "Hey can we get an interview?" So we ended up getting like one of the best interviews at E3 that's

2:29 fantastic for Oculus just randomly which was great you guys have fun overall it

2:34 was good there was there was stuff that we don't have time to talk about which Are you releasing the blog video of the

2:38 hotel i don't know it's It's We're We're

2:42 not sure but I have footage and I might show it off on the afterparty i I get a

2:45 kick out of all the people being like there's no video because I actually have

2:49 a preview of the stream running on my computer right now so

2:53 if if there is no video then that's Yeah I think it's on your side uh all right

2:57 so why don't we jump right into our our hot topics of the day so I've got two

3:02 hot topics for you that are sort of related gta 5 is coming to the

3:07 PC and um Dead Rising 3 is coming to the

3:11 PC

3:15 i mean that's it's good that that an exclusive franchise is moving to PC but

3:21 we well we have more to tell you later about why this is just the completest

3:26 epic fail that um it Well okay it could have been worth I don't know how much

3:30 worse it could be okay you go you go ahead you give some topics that we're going to talk about today uh next next

3:36 generation consoles are probably coming faster than we expected and that's not

3:41 surprising cuz the current ones are really not that strong or good at all

3:45 instead of calling them next gen can we be like shampoo and call them new and

3:49 improved gen next new nextG console like

3:53 the the like the the Nintendo thing and then the next one can be new and

3:57 improved nextG and then after that it can be like redesigned packaging which

4:02 they already do you know where they have like a Modern Warfare skin on the

4:05 console or whatever like they should just completely rip off shampoo and just

4:10 do it that way new an enhanced formula uh and then we

4:15 have the mag lev keyboard because magnets yo magnets dog all right so

4:20 without further ado here is the uh the

4:25 Okay I'll just press it

4:36 this is great someone's like "Now with 30% more

4:41 gen." Yes oh I love

4:47 it all right so our sponsors for the

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5:08 know 100% coming paul and Kyle from Newegg might be coming that's mostly

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5:39 going to be a lot of a lot of fun also we uh we owe our E3 sponsors one more uh

5:44 one more sponsor spot here so um actually I mean this is the timing is

5:48 not bad the next week thing isn't that great because it's not next week it was

5:52 actually this week but we're gonna be doing a ton of E3 recap and I just want

5:56 to thank our sponsors HyperX NCIX and H

6:01 wow I'm blanking thank you and Corsair

6:04 for sending Luke there see he's the one who's been saying that all week yep

6:08 whereas I've been focused on Highlander and the fact that there's some overlap

6:12 between them oh yeah that's a good point it's

6:16 like what am I doing yeah yeah no that

6:19 was awesome we actually have a Nintendo recap video of like all of the games

6:23 that are coming out in terms of Wii U uh is Nintendo getting their mojo back why

6:28 don't we make that our first topic let's go

6:32 nintendo's year like 100% you walk into

6:35 one of the halls you see a gigantic Nintendo banner you see completely

6:39 vacant booths and then you see no walking space at all around the Nintendo

6:43 area because it's full the press area was completely full there was lineup

6:47 cues to try every single like little station and the non- press area was even

6:51 more full uh the the invitational stream

6:55 was insane there was 100,000 people watching the Smash Bros invitational

6:59 before they started playing like people care they had they

7:04 had Best Buys around the world had Smash Bros and people were able to go play and

7:08 there was pictures of Best Buys where there was a lineup all the way around

7:11 the Best Buy and then down the street just to be able to play so for all the

7:17 doom and gloom around Nintendo and they are still losing money yep are they at

7:21 least recapturing their mojo i think they're recapturing their mojo they have

7:24 they have stuff like Smash Bros coming which should have been here already they got Zelda coming they have that new

7:28 Zelda announcement which looks amazing and that should have been here already

7:31 there's a lot of stuff that should have been here already let's just make this the Nintendo the Nintendo uh segment so

7:36 let's go through all of our Nintendo stuff so so go ahead tell give us your

7:40 thoughts then we'll jump into that uh Nintendo has already apparently actually

7:45 no we'll move on okay whatever talk about Nintendo and then I'll jump in with other stuff they they have I in in

7:50 the video that's coming in like 18 minutes they have I think 11 different

7:53 games like really big very important very well polished games that they could

7:58 probably release today because they're all playable there right and totally

8:02 smooth no problems fully playable um that were just amazing and stuff stuff

8:07 from Yoshi Toad uh Mario like main Mario

8:10 sequence games the Mario Maker game looks amazing and I got to play with it there and it was really good um Hyrule

8:15 Warriors is polished and really fun uh the Zelda game looks amazing all of

8:20 these big titles that probably should have come earlier um but I think it's

8:24 going to be okay i The hype around Nintendo at E3 was insane like the

8:28 PlayStation and Xbox stuff was fairly populated and stuff that you would

8:32 expect to be populated like Borderlands and like Far Cry there was a fairly

8:36 large lineup but the lineup to play and get like hands-on interaction with Far

8:42 Cry and Assassin's Creed and like Borderlands these big titles were not as

8:47 big and not as engaged as anything at Nintendo including like I I can't even

8:52 remember what it's called right now but some Squid Game where you like run

8:56 around and paint things but it was tons of fun it's It looked super stupid but

9:00 it's it's called Turf War yeah and you just run around with these paint guns

9:04 and you have to like cover all the ground in paint and it's an FPS at the

9:07 same time so you're covering the ground in paint to gain points and whoever has the most ground covered in their color

9:12 of paint at the end wins but you can kill the other guys and then they get a

9:15 respawn timer and they respond in the back of their base that sounds like a lot of fun it was actually It was really

9:20 competitive despite how like kind of casual filthy casual yeah totally filthy

9:25 casual but it was super competitive and there was that was one of the most lined up for games splatoon that's what it was

9:31 called thanks Nick yeah thanks Nick it's called Splatoon but that was that was

9:35 actually so much fun and that I had never even heard of that before and that

9:39 was that was awesome so there's I don't know i'm scared okay what's your what's

9:43 your highlight from Nintendo oh Smash Bros smash Bros was amazing and that's

9:48 super boring but it was amazing neither of the people in this room gives any

9:52 cares about this because neither of us ever owned a game cube did we no but I

9:58 got to play with both and I got to talk to multiple people that were in the

10:01 Smash Bros invitational about Smash Bros um so I have feedback on Smash Bros and

10:06 the Gamecube controller and stuff i asked the guy who won the invitational

10:09 who was playing with me which was super cool um what yeah I I won shut up yeah

10:15 can we let you win a nice guy there was No there was two guys from the

10:18 invitational and a like fairly high-end on the competitive side employee of

10:23 Nintendo for Smash Bros and then me and we were all playing and the employee of

10:28 Nintendo picked a super overpowered character and the two invitational guys

10:32 were trying to fight him off because he had a super overpowered character and I

10:35 was Kirby so I did that like you turn into a rock and smash thing and I got

10:40 multiple kills that way and then ended up winning they weren't trying to focus

10:44 me but because they were focusing someone else I took advantage of it and

10:47 won which is fantastic nice um but yeah

10:51 the the Gamecube controller and I got to talk okay you haven't actually told anyone what we're talking about so

10:55 Nintendo is releasing a GameCube controller adapter for the Wii U that

10:59 will allow you to plug in four Gamecube controllers I think okay couple of

11:04 things number one is why the hell hasn't

11:07 everyone been doing this all along why can't I use an Xbox 360 controller on

11:11 the Xbox One if I like it better microsoft what's your problem like what

11:16 is the problem with carrying forward and back compatibility on controllers it's

11:20 an artificially imposed limitation a lot of the time and it just doesn't make any

11:24 sense and you know what even though Nintendo legitimately justifiably can't

11:30 use GameCube controllers on the Wii U they are allowing it to happen they are

11:36 facilitating it and they're making it reasonable 20ucks 20 bucks 20 bucks

11:42 20ucks not even that bad i mean we're talking about the price delta between a

11:47 current gen controller and a last gen controller and you're getting the

11:51 adapter to use as many lastg controllers as you want i mean that is such a

11:55 customerfriendly thing to do just go look yeah okay you don't like classic

11:59 controller you don't like pro controller you want to use what you're familiar

12:03 with what you like yes let's give it to you why isn't everyone doing this yeah

12:08 and you can you can even use like the old GameCube Waveird wireless

12:12 controllers that's compatible with the adapter so like they're just like yeah

12:15 know it works which is fantastic i talked to the competitive guys and I

12:19 tried the GameCube controller again i never had a GameCube and that controller

12:22 always felt weird but playing Smash Bros with it felt right and people are

12:26 pointing out the original Wii had it built in by default yeah yeah you just

12:30 down you just pull down the flap and you can get it but I mean you can't you

12:34 can't have it built in forever so I understand why they're doing it the way

12:38 they're doing i just think that Microsoft and Sony could take a page out

12:43 of this book where it's giving your customers the choice i mean Nintendo's

12:46 actually done a good job of that even on the original Wii so you've got your Wii

12:50 remote you got your classic controller you got your nunchuck and Wii remote

12:53 combo you've got your Gamecube controller you can basically do things the way that you want and I think that's

12:57 fantastic yeah but my my main question for them was why not the Pro Controller

13:02 versus the Gamecube controller and the feedback from You mean for the players

13:06 for the players yes the feedback from the I'm helping you i'm keeping you on track here the feedback from the very

13:11 competitive guys was the layout of the Gamecube controller is faster and more

13:16 efficient and also the analog stick placement like this is still layout but

13:20 analog stick placement is a lot better for comboing buttons mhm and all of that

13:24 totally makes sense and I kind of felt it while I was there because especially

13:28 that little yellow stick you can flick that and press a button really easily

13:32 right so I totally understand why you would want a GameCube controller and

13:35 then they have they if you don't have old GameCube controllers and you're

13:39 worried about like local stores running out they're going to be releasing what like a $30 Smash Bros gamecube

13:44 controller nice i believe that's what it is so you'll be able to buy new ones if

13:48 that's the case or if you want to make sure your old ones are still fine you can just buy a new one so for 150 bucks

13:51 you will be able to completely kit out your Wii U and Gamecube controllers

13:56 that's not bad that's That's really And if you're willing to buy controllers

13:59 used you can do it a lot cheaper than that yep yep definitely you can get

14:02 GameCube controllers pretty cheap although I would probably do that quickly yeah really before everyone

14:07 catches on to this yeah before before Gamecube controllers just start flying

14:11 off shelves everywhere um but yeah that was that was a ton of fun uh what else

14:16 was there i got to play Hyrule Warriors

14:19 um and it it was smooth i I was never a huge fan of what is it called dynasty

14:23 Warriors never a Well okay i was never a

14:26 huge fan because I never had it right but like it it was fun it was fun to

14:30 play it's an interesting new IP for them but it does seem even with very rarely

14:35 playing Dynasty Warriors I I was like "Yeah I'm I'm playing Dynasty Warriors

14:39 but as Link or Zelda right which is I

14:42 don't know it was kind of fun." All right let's talk about Mario Maker um so

14:46 this was originally posted on the forum by Top War Gamer so thank you for that

14:52 but uh your your thoughts on it you played around with it a little bit right yeah uh really really smooth and very

14:56 fast extremely fast my my concern with

15:00 something like this is is the same as my concern with any any game that kind of

15:06 goes "Hey we're giving you guys the reins." Um I like games that are

15:10 designed by professional game designers um did were they allowing people to

15:16 create their own levels while while you were there and were you able to play

15:19 other people's levels or how was the whole experience i got to play levels of

15:23 two again two of the competitive guys i was kind of going around with them for a little while um and that was kind of fun

15:27 because they were making absolutely ridiculous levels right like n

15:32 impossible levels because they're competitive guys um and that was kind of

15:36 fun but even if something's ridiculous you can you can jump into the editor at

15:40 any point in time of any level even levels that come stock with the game and

15:44 move your character so if you're like "This part's dumb," you can just be like "I'm now here." And keep going which is

15:49 actually kind of nice because one of the competitive guys accidentally made part

15:53 of it impossible he he didn't realize one of the things was going to jump onto

15:57 a certain thing that it did right so he was like "Oh okay whatever." And just

16:00 edit his character up onto the next point and then kept going which was

16:03 actually kind of nice um and you can also liveit anything so if you play one

16:07 of the stock maps you can live edit it so you can like add things to make it

16:11 more difficult and change things um and

16:14 my biggest worry was actually something that you just brought up other people's

16:17 levels right now they don't have it set up so that you can actually download off

16:22 of a community but they were like yeah every single

16:26 person pretty much who's played has suggested that right so not saying

16:31 anything's going to happen but yeah and one thing that was fairly interesting

16:35 about Nintendo is they had a slight indie feel the whole time where when you

16:39 go to aaa place it's just like game stations where you can play and PR

16:43 people yeah they had the developers for a lot of the games walking the floor

16:46 talking to people that's really cool it was really cool like the the the main

16:50 guy behind Splatoon every single time was going around to every single person

16:54 that was playing and asking them what their thoughts were after the game and like with a notepad legitimately writing

16:59 things down that's fantastic i mean that's something that really I I I find

17:04 differentiates one company from another one i mean we see the same thing at CES

17:08 where there's certain companies you go to their booth and it's like the

17:13 president or like VP of worldwide marketing or or whatever and typically

17:18 it's smaller companies but seeing big ones behave like that is really and you

17:22 see it sometimes it's not only Nintendo but it was it was very nice to see it at

17:26 No you do see it from time to time i mean even at CES we've met people like I

17:29 I met uh some senior director level i

17:33 actually met the CEO of WD at a party last year like you do run into these

17:38 people but it's usually really difficult and the fact that they were just there

17:42 in the booth was actually really cool and you you'd never really know like

17:45 they weren't wearing shirts that were like dev team like they had Nintendo

17:49 shirts but they just kind of looked like average employees right but if you

17:52 recognized them you could tell and a lot of people didn't so it was actually fine

17:56 they could kind of move around freely but it was really cool to see them picking up all that feedback and even

18:01 other employees they were using as like proxies essentially so those other

18:04 employees would ask questions and then I saw them like they'd meet up and exchange notes and then keep going like

18:09 they were really hardcore about getting feedback from people which is cool and

18:12 apparently that's where the Gamecube controller thing came from right so many

18:16 fans demanded a different input solution for Smash Bros when it came out but they

18:20 were like "Hey we'll just make this $20 little device it solves all the

18:23 problems." That's great what a great attitude yeah

18:28 that was like I said this was Nintendo's year they rocked E3 100% i got some

18:33 really cool I don't know if I was supposed to take these but um I the

18:37 voting cards from the Nintendo Invitational yes did you see how that

18:40 worked when they they held up the cards no they were like this big and you voted

18:44 for which character should win or whatever and it was like this book of

18:49 voting cards you are such an embarrassment sometimes he has no shame

18:53 when it comes to swag like I I've been in the industry a long time and

18:57 companies will be like "Here do you want the swag bag at our booth?" And I'm like

19:01 "No it's okay i really I don't even have anywhere to put this stuff at this point." And he's like he's going to be

19:06 like "Oh uh yeah I'll take it." Also I'll have Linuses do you have any other

19:10 stuff do you have any stuff that's just a part of your actual booth fixture that

19:14 I can just take it i've tried that before it's worked before you know

19:18 what's funny though um and let's move on to uh let's move on to our Did you have

19:22 anything else particularly for Nintendo cuz I've got a great segment uh the other stuff would just be in the video

19:27 which is up in like 7 minutes so be sure to check that out all right so let's

19:30 move on to speaking of booth swag the designed by Razer licensing program this

19:35 was officially posted or originally posted by Lafere on the Linus Tech Tips

19:40 forum thank you very much for that i'm going to switch over to my screen here

19:43 and oh there it goes that was interesting so this is the Razer Special

19:49 Edition H440 it is basically an NZXT H440 but

19:55 with what are they calling it a special edition H440 for gamers by gamers

20:00 designed by Razer H440

20:04 oh it's probably this adapter yes it is technostream

20:11 oh now stop well I'm holding it now um anyway so

20:16 this is it's got like a designed by Razer badge um right here and that's

20:21 pretty cool um but truthfully that that

20:24 this case isn't the big news to me the big news here is more collaboration

20:30 between brands like this i think that's a very positive thing i mean aesthetics

20:33 are definitely a factor for me when I'm

20:36 building a rig and I think they're a factor for a lot of people although it's hard to tell with you but aesthetics are

20:41 definitely a thing i mean as much as you

20:45 know what we don't owe the big corporations anything we don't have to

20:48 put their logos all over our chests and all over our stuff but if you really

20:52 like what someone and if that is a company is doing that and you really are

20:57 driven to put their their branding on stuff and that makes you feel cool then

21:01 I think stuff like this is great um they haven't changed anything really no like

21:06 let's be truthful about this they put a logo on the front they changed the color

21:09 scheme they put some lighting effects in it but that's about it it's still an H440 but what I like about this is the

21:14 H440 is a great case so now it's available in black and

21:19 green that's cool yeah I'm down with that anyway so on to stealing things

21:24 from booths um one of the ones that was in NZXT's booth that's like an early

21:29 mockup they're sending it here oh oh I thought it got stolen i was like I

21:33 didn't take this don't look at me no no

21:36 they're uh they're going to tear it down after the show and then they're going to send it to us so that we can our next

21:41 build guide that we film not the one that's coming out this weekend by the

21:44 way there's a build guide coming out this weekend the next one that we film

21:47 is going to be uh a green and black themed rig in this case cool that'll be

21:51 good we're going to have a pre-production it does look nice and because the green LEDs are very dark and

21:56 there's like the kind of blackout tint on the window a little bit it's this like deep kind of moody green which

22:01 actually looks pretty good i'm working on sourcing a bunch of like cool green

22:05 themed stuff to put in it that that sniper with the I don't know what it's

22:08 called but not red line cuz it's green line gigabytes new boards aren't green

22:13 what and this is going to be a Devil's Canyon system so I'd rather use a Z97

22:18 board if I can yeah bummer so I'm planning to use a

22:21 saber-tooth just because at least it's just black yep and then I'm going to get

22:25 some green memory we're probably going to paint memory anyway I'm giving away

22:28 I'm giving away too much the next build guide in that case is going to be freaking awesome um speaking of Devil's

22:33 Canyon I think that leads pretty well into the Pentium

22:38 KG3258 cryptically named um but the

22:42 results are looking pretty impressive this was originally posted by the

22:46 magical maniac on the Linus Tech Tips forum original article here is from

22:50 BitTech and this processor looks like

22:53 the spiritual successor to the Pentium D85 which basically means we are looking

22:59 at some pretty kick-ass stuff going on here the D85 was a dual core processor

23:05 it consumed a bunch of power whereas this one won't um it was very very low

23:11 clocked out of the box which this one is but what kicked butt about the Pendium

23:15 V85 was it overclocked like nuts that

23:20 thing was cheap and it was a fantastic

23:23 value and at the time that was Intel's response to a very competitive AMD where

23:29 Intel was basically like hm okay we have

23:32 to do something because our chips are

23:35 just not worth that much right now so

23:38 they came up with the Pennium G85 they removed some features like it didn't

23:43 have all the same stuff that something like a 930 well what did they call them

23:46 yeah I think it was a 930 or something like that anyway it didn't have all the same features but it overclocked like a

23:51 bat out of hell and it was a chip of choice for gamers this looks like it's

23:56 going to be pretty much the same thing so we've seen people reporting

24:00 overclocks from 3.2 to 4.5 GHz like I

24:04 said before it is only a dual core but in games that are not dependent on heavy

24:10 uh on on heavily threaded processors with you know hyperthreading and four or

24:14 six or eight cores this thing is going to absolutely kick butt so they're

24:19 showing what kind of performance increases you can see uh with it it

24:23 shows what kind of performance it has i'm seeing some reports although it's

24:26 not in this particular article that we could be looking at similar to 4770K

24:32 performance with this chip especially in games where we're not bound by how many

24:37 processing cores that we have so looks pretty good pretty good pretty

24:42 good that is actually really interesting but I've had people And it does have hyperthreading by the way two cores two

24:46 threads so just like a Core i3 but unlocked and overclockable yeah

24:51 yeah okay

24:54 what else we got there's like everything this week uh should we talk about GTA 5

24:59 and that other game sure sure that shall remain nameless let's do GTA 5 first all

25:03 right so this was originally posted on the Linus Tech Tips forum by a skew

25:07 thank you for that you're awesome yay shout outs for all the people who post

25:11 news on the Linus Tech Tips forum you guys are

25:14 awesome anyway um original article was

25:17 from eurogamer.net gta 5 is coming to

25:20 the PC PS4 and Xbox One and at least two of those three I think we kind of saw

25:25 coming but yeah

25:30 uh yeah you're going to be able to transfer your online saves which will be interesting but I haven't heard anything

25:34 on campaign transfer uh this is actually kind of the reason why I quit playing

25:39 back when I had a roommate we had it for Xbox 360 and uh I stopped like pretty

25:45 early in because I was like "This is an awesome game." But I'm gonna wait

25:49 because I hope it'll come to PC eventually i'm surprised it took them a

25:52 year i hope that's because they're optimizing it because on launch GTA 4

25:56 was like completely poo that's basically

26:00 all I have to say about it it performed terribly um but they've again they've

26:05 taken a year and I think the platform architecture is going to be a lot more similar than last time so hopefully that

26:10 helps them as well um apparently there will be existing

26:14 like the the existing add-on content for GTA V will be kind of bundled in it

26:19 there's going to be upgraded AI for the PC version even compared to Xbox One and

26:23 PS4 which will be really cool they're going to have improved things like draw

26:27 distances textures denser traffic wildlife uh upgraded weather upgraded

26:31 damage effects and tons of other crap which is absolutely fantastic i hope it

26:36 is extremely moddable they're going to have a movie maker but mods are

26:40 something I am pretty interested in because you saw like Icy

26:44 Enhance if he comes back and does GTA 5

26:49 like please it's amazing you did an

26:52 incredibly good job with GTA 4 but we need you again sir or Madame but I'm

26:57 assuming sir um yeah that would be that

27:00 would be great i don't really know what else to say that would be great that

27:04 would be great if you could just come back and do all that work that would be great

27:08 yeah because like you can you can look at GTA 4 screenshots from that guy that

27:12 look better than like any game that's released now which is ridiculous but

27:16 yeah that would be great and then there's the Dead Rising 3 super cool

27:22 announcement that turned out to be not super cool at all okay so hold on so

27:25 let's start with the good things about this so number one is that consumers and

27:29 I encourage people to do this all the time if you're unhappy about something

27:33 if you're all buttth hurt don't give people your money if you don't like what

27:38 people are doing don't give them your money so I don't know why Dead Rising 3

27:44 is coming to PC um it wasn't supposed to

27:48 it might have something yeah well I know it wasn't supposed to do we have the

27:51 link to It's not coming to PC and then the link way down way down yeah hold on

27:55 f Dead Rising no no that's control

27:59 bookmark stop it control bookmark

28:04 screw you hippie okay so uh

28:08 find it yeah it's not there whatever anyway so the original the original

28:12 story was I mean with GTA 5 the rumors have kind of been out there for a long

28:17 time um and they've never officially denied it they've never said "No it's

28:21 not coming to PC." With Dead Rising 3 it was not supposed to come to PC so

28:24 whether it's because Xbox One isn't selling that well um which would be you

28:29 know a definite sort of good job guys for not buying things that you're not

28:34 happy with uh so whether it's that or whether it's something else whether it's

28:37 you know um you know Microsoft kind of going hey well we want more Xbox One

28:43 content on PC because we really are committed to that um although I really

28:47 doubt it's the second one it's a great thing to see more exclusive uh console

28:52 franchises coming to the PC but then they went and they just wrecked it uh

28:59 one thing before we get into how they wrecked it there's a quote saying definitely not a timed exclusive it's an

29:04 Xbox One game we see a lot of this online it's not coming to PS4 or PC yeah

29:09 that was like months ago lol

29:13 well uh but yeah so they've they've they've frame capped it to 30 FPS and

29:18 they have a warning on it so that if you can take that cap off which is nice i I

29:23 guess I don't think you've put enough emphasis on it they frame capped it at

29:27 30 FPS on the PC

29:33 yeah and like I said you can take it off but there's a giant warning saying like

29:37 "We're not responsible for what happens if you do this." and they fully expect the game's just going to completely

29:42 break if you do that so the physics is act it actually works based on the frame

29:47 rate so it's what what Need for Speed game I don't remember which one but I

29:51 was just going to say you could double how fast your car was going by making

29:55 your FPS go from 30 to 60 and like we're going to have these problems with Dead

29:59 Rising and that's super stupid how lazy is that incredibly lazy there's there's

30:03 a quote in the Oculus video where I have an interview with Palmer where I'm

30:07 talking to him about 30 FPS versus other higher frame rates because for VR you're

30:11 going to need way higher frame rates than 30 FPS um where he says 30 FPS

30:15 isn't a design choice it's a failure

30:20 yay like yeah no but just how lazy is it

30:24 to tie your in-game physics to I know a dev on the team frame rate which is like

30:29 oh

30:32 god I'm sorry but it's terrible

30:38 um I don't Yeah that's really

30:41 lazy like I get it but it's lazy i mean

30:46 we're talking we're talking stuff that we solved like you know back in the 90s

30:52 like problems that on the PC we were

30:55 like "Oh yeah in Goose when I press the

30:58 turbo button on my like 386 it goes too

31:01 fast oh I guess we better address this." Yeah like we This was This was a problem

31:06 for a little while with older games where they had no ability to really

31:09 foresee this well they could but didn't really think about it and then it went

31:12 away for a long time and now it's back it's like why are you back should not be

31:16 a thing why are you back shouldn't be a thing at all i hope we see more ports i

31:20 hope we see ports that come over to the PC correctly i hope uh Dante or whatever

31:26 his or however you pronounce his name fixes this because that would be

31:29 fantastic there's so many things in the announcements of like stuff coming to PC

31:32 where I'm like I hope this one super well-known modder guy comes back and

31:36 fixes everything for

31:40 us i really hope so ah that would be

31:43 fantastic i mean I the thing I like

31:46 about this generation of PCs is that the way that they're built is so much more

31:50 similar did I say PCs cuz I meant consoles sorry consoles is that the way

31:54 that they're built is so much more similar to a PC that porting should be

31:59 easier and uh well mostly that porting

32:02 should be easier and but there are a lot

32:06 of issues with it too and I think that that's something

32:10 that the console makers are very well aware of so the original post poster for

32:15 this on the forum was Joners and the original article is from Techraar but

32:20 that is the the headline here is the next generation of consoles could come

32:25 much sooner than expected so and this is from AMD so remember these are the guys

32:30 that are making the CPU and the GPU in both the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One

32:35 and the Wii U i said both because I forgot there are three i'm sorry

32:38 Nintendo you're still cool really you Well Nintendo we just said you won E3

32:42 i'm sorry they don't really get dropped under the next console thing because

32:46 they came out way before that 30% less improved 30% less the next gen except

32:52 their games are coming out 1080p 60 FPS i know right so like owned and you know

32:57 what correct i I think getting wrapped

33:00 up in in having to deliver okay this

33:04 this is kind of funny because we did a fastest possible on um what was it

33:09 refresh rates nope not that one frame uh on

33:13 um resolution while you were gone so we did a fastest possible on resolution and

33:18 I was getting sample footage of Far Cry 3 running at 720p maximum like

33:25 everything on ultra and 1080p with everything on minimum to go okay here's

33:29 an extreme example of how level of

33:32 detail versus resolution affects how a

33:35 game looks and in between switching from

33:39 720p uh right 720p maximum to 1080p not I

33:44 increased the resolution first and then I turned all the details off and I was

33:49 like you know if I pixel peep I can tell

33:54 but if I'm not looking that close like I just got a lot of performance and

34:00 it really doesn't look that different

34:04 so I'm kind of sitting here going like if you if you tailor your art style

34:08 correctly there isn't really a good reason why you can't turn off some of

34:12 the goofy effects and get a better frame rate and deliver what is in my mind a

34:16 much more playable experience i mean playing something like Mario Kart at

34:20 30fps 900p like the first thing I would tell

34:25 Nintendo is like come on man how are we supposed to play like that and yet

34:29 competitive gamers accept this on other consoles anyway this is it's actually to

34:34 throw back again to the Nintendo video that just came out 9 minutes ago in part

34:38 of that I bring up about how like Wii U is really not the most powerful platform

34:42 no it's really not but they know that and they design the games and tailor the

34:46 games for that and the art style of the games and everything still looks great

34:50 like have you have you seen the Zelda stuff no I haven't oh my god it looks

34:54 really good but then it's because it's their style yeah it's like the whole

34:59 Blizzard thing yeah Warcraft 3 is a very

35:02 visually pleasing game i mean it's got polygons that have like you know six

35:07 sides it's like this is a sword don't look too close

35:12 but it looks good because it's a style and they're pulling off a specific style

35:16 and it works really well but it Yes and I'm okay with that um and and with that

35:21 said I do I do like that you know we're

35:24 pushing the envelope graphics wise definitely but I'm I'm more okay with

35:27 that on the PC end where where we can actually have the performance to do it

35:31 anyway we're actually good i wonder what the backstory here is but AMD is hinting

35:35 that the console developers are even further along than Wii the end users

35:40 might expect um Nintendo has apparently already clearly confirmed that they have

35:46 a clear idea they did this a few months ago of what the Wii U successor will

35:50 look like and I gotta wonder like did AMD tell these guys yo dog you know it's

35:57 maybe another 20 30 bucks in bomb cost

36:00 but you really need to put a better chip in these things you need to you need

36:04 better graphics hardware in these things please let us build something better for

36:07 you like I wonder if they're just kind of sitting there laughing going "Okay

36:10 well I guess we

36:13 um but it really does feel like they just screwed it up graphics hardware

36:18 wise." And like I said we've got a really interesting video coming probably in a couple of weeks u where we're going

36:23 to take a look at how much more power it really takes to go from one resolution

36:28 to another resolution and deliver the same graphical fidelity yeah or from uh

36:33 certain frame rate to another frame rate yeah so so stay tuned for that that's

36:36 actually going to be pretty cool um what

36:39 else we got should we get into one of our like rapid fire stuff uh sure yeah

36:44 this is kind of cool okay so this is and it was originally posted on the forum

36:49 by D forum nope not a forum not a forum

36:53 thread i think I saw it on the forum actually but whatever um this

36:58 370in TV costs 1.6 million

37:04 US1 million pounds um it's

37:08 actually it's the Titan Zeus and you can

37:12 see you can see the in the picture here

37:15 like these are trees you know

37:21 uh there's there's no word on the actual image quality it's a 4K TV um so 370 in

37:28 works out to about 8 m wide by 5 m tall

37:31 and there's only been one sold to a private owner who wants to remain

37:35 anonymous that we know of so far although some people have seen it at uh

37:41 at the the at a at film festivals or and

37:45 apparently they will also be showing oh they'll be showing World Cup matches on

37:48 it so they are you can find them in

37:52 certain places but other than that this just looks like uh a because we can type

37:56 of thing at at even at 4K what is the

37:59 PPI of this thing i know at 8 m x 5 m

38:03 okay just for you personally let's say they cost the same let's say both

38:08 solutions are $1,000 okay would you want a TV or a projector

38:15 bearing in mind a projector is not going to perform that well in in a bright

38:18 environment probably a projector but it's not in the way like you can mount

38:23 it somewhere else that's what I mean like cuz like this thing is just I'd be

38:26 so worried about it getting destroyed all the time right

38:31 moving that anywhere is going to be terrible like they're saying they they've been to different shows and

38:35 stuff the first thing that popped in my mind is like how intricate the shipping

38:39 process must have been right yeah because holy crap and then it's a

38:42 projector you just throw it in a box it's like okay cool at that size I would

38:47 probably go for a projector and because I don't know like you can even see there

38:50 it's kind of black around the TV you're probably if where are you going to put

38:55 this in a house and if it's outside you're it's probably going to be at night 8 mters by 5 meters i'm just

38:59 trying to think where would you put this in a house like that's Although if you're buying a million dollar TV maybe

39:04 you can put this in a house right yeah

39:07 that's that's really big i mean 8 m that's like 25 ft

39:14 i I guess you could like you would have to build a room for it yeah but then

39:19 again at a million dollars you could even like a baller house where there's

39:23 like you know a basketball court we're talking like you're converting your

39:27 basketball court

39:30 it's kind of a big deal actually but then at a million dollars you're kind of

39:35 probably a big deal so I don't know yeah I Or the son of a big deal either way uh

39:41 oh Ghost is Ghost says it's 11.91 pixels

39:45 per inch which is sort of terrible

39:50 that's really not good i mean you're going to have to sit like like drive in

39:54 theater distance away from the So that that makes that room a lot more

39:57 difficult to set up i mean at a certain point and I I I think that this point

40:02 really is 55 in at a certain point does

40:06 a bigger TV even make any sense or are you better off just sitting closer to a

40:10 smaller TV you have to you have to wonder about room design like in in some

40:14 houses it's going to be pretty far throw distance what's what's the proper throw

40:19 distance for 55 in TV i can't remember

40:23 uh is this retina.com has sort of a measurement of of what pixel densities

40:28 will look like what will look like retina from certain distances but 55 is

40:33 pretty big for a reasonable size room whereas I think you could probably go

40:37 you could push 60 70 for something like more like a home theater like media room

40:44 but even then like you'd probably want to go projector because you're going to build a proper media room at that point

40:48 anyway and then you can throw like a nice 100 inch or whatever else and you

40:51 can do it on the cheap you can do it for a few And if you're building a media

40:55 room you can probably control the lighting yes so it's probably fine and I

41:00 would spend I would spend my million dollars on like the most badass seating

41:06 instead like with like poop holes built into each seat so you never have to move

41:11 and like Well no okay look so the way it would work is you'd have a constant

41:16 you'd have a constant suction from somewhere outside of the room so that

41:20 the smell of the poo would never actually reach the other people and then

41:25 what you could do is you could turn the suction off so that your butt doesn't get cold the entire time that you're

41:29 sitting there you have heated seats genius right the best idea ever no

41:35 but So was that like a you're a loser

41:39 did you have you seen the Rockat video that I released i haven't watched it yet

41:43 i'm familiar with the keyboard though yeah it is actually pretty interesting and I I've seen quite because my the mo

41:48 the main reason why I want to see that video is so many people ask about wireless keyboards and as it's not

41:52 technically just a wireless keyboard sorry someone just posted in Twitch chat

41:57 he put thought into this no that was off

42:00 the top of my head thank you though sorry go ahead

42:05 wow johnny says "Why are we watching this?"

42:08 Little do we know go back to Linus' house is this like in a dark room

42:12 there's this blue schematic up on the wall

42:15 i have like all these whiteboards yeah yeah yeah what if this would work we

42:21 could apply suction in exactly this way if we if we wire the pipes together we

42:25 can just have one big vacuum that's terrible sorry tell me about the rocket

42:29 thing it's wireless it's mechanical it's It's pretty cool my My biggest worry was

42:34 that like it it has a built-in mouse pad and built-in wrist rest and those are

42:38 just going to get insta destroyed yes um but it's supposed to be modular you're

42:42 supposed to be put be able to replace them i hope that it's not like this

42:46 crazy proprietary insanely expensive solution in terms of modularity yeah it

42:52 probably is probably is um but yeah so I mean it looks pretty cool it's like it's

42:56 like a desk keyboard mouse pad thing that's designed to bring gaming to the

43:00 couch better than most other desk keyboard mouse pad things that I've seen before other than potentially the couch

43:05 master but then that's like a The couch master's bulky yeah um the couch master

43:10 is multiple pieces so it's really not that elegant it's It's a very different

43:13 solution though from this one yeah so it's good in certain situations but it's

43:16 giant so I don't know it's up to you all right h Oh I was I was just thinking I

43:23 was like "Oh we should we should game tonight for after party." But the uh the

43:27 wife and kid my my wife gets off early so and then I didn't see the baby

43:31 yesterday so I guess speaking of the baby I got to feed him somehow so here

43:35 come our sponsors oh that's the wrong thing sorry i didn't mean to do that

43:39 okay so first up that's that's packs what am I What am

43:44 I doing oh like yay

43:49 we got there all right I'm let I'm going to let you thank the E3 sponsors thank

43:53 you to HyperX they brought us down to their whole HyperX offices and we got to

43:57 do an office tour and that was actually that was Did you Did you see that one part yeah I don't watch your videos uh

44:01 there was they have a 5v5 gaming land room set up okay I saw that part of it

44:06 ridiculous yeah that man those chairs man oh my Oh and they're they're really

44:12 really comfortable chairs i got to sit in one for a little while um that was

44:15 really cool uh right off camera in the gaming land room they have a constantly

44:19 stocked Monster fridge full of Monster Energy drinks hold on i have a

44:22 correction by the way back to that Pentium K anniversary edition it is two

44:26 cores two threads no hyperthreading sorry okay go ahead okay just saw that

44:31 um yeah that was pretty cool that helped me because I hadn't slept when I was

44:35 filming those Kingston videos all three of the Kingston videos i changed shirts

44:38 so it looked like different days but it was all all within the same little bit

44:42 of but it was in a range of like 30 to 34 hours that I'd been awake for filming

44:47 those videos so we walk into the land room and there's a monster fridge and

44:50 I'm like you know what's hilarious is I actually

44:54 got a message from Kingston that specifically said uh yeah it's amazing

44:59 how your team was great they were super awesome they were really professional

45:02 especially considering how little sleep they had

45:06 so thanks to Kingston for sending us down there also huge thanks to Corsair

45:10 and NCIX for sending us down there Corsair specifically wants us to

45:15 highlight the heck out of their new RGB keyboards which of course they don't

45:19 have to tell us to do no we've done that a lot cuz we we we heart we heart the

45:23 RGB keyboards all the way and then NCIX asked us to specifically call out what a

45:28 great value we think that buying a gaming rig from NCIX is and I think we

45:32 can both get on board that because compared to 50ucksucks compared to

45:35 buying a boutique rig or compared to building it yourself there's a

45:38 compelling value here because you get all the parts for the same price as it would cost to buy them off the shelf or

45:43 online from some other retailer they do price match so you literally can get

45:47 them for the same price as another retailer then they assemble it for you

45:50 for 50 bucks and that 50 bucks includes a one-year return to depot warranty that

45:55 includes troubleshooting and North American tech

45:59 support for your system so yeah yeah i

46:02 personally know people that are actually really good at building computers that are just way too lazy and have paid the

46:06 50 bucks yep and they straight up and they do a pretty good job you know it's

46:11 not it's not like old school voodoo PC

46:14 origami cabling it it isn't and they're not individually sle every wire that's

46:18 not what you're getting what you're getting is a professionally installed computer that is 50 bucks so like it's

46:25 Yeah it's actually not that bad when when I was first told I used to build

46:28 computers for people for like I think it was like 75 and I heard NX was doing it

46:32 for 50 and I was like "Oh I I really hope this doesn't get

46:36 out." All right so our next sponsor call

46:39 out and this one is a huge deal this time next week I will be getting ready

46:44 to get on a plane and go climb the uh

46:49 second highest mountain in the uh in the lower 48 wait are we having a win show

46:54 uh yeah there will be a land show he said this time next week I'll be getting ready a win show well readyish are we

47:00 streaming oh just calm down anyway there's there's W show next week so

47:04 we're going to be uh we're going to be preparing to hike Mount Elbert with a

47:09 huge group uh hopefully huge people just

47:12 they got to confirm and get their tickets booked but Austin Evans has his

47:15 ticket booked he's coming logan from Tech Syndicate is co-hosting the event

47:20 with us so this is a 100% collaborative project between Linus Tech Tips and Tech

47:26 Syndicate so they're going to have Kane there from their team they're going to

47:29 have How many times should we ask Kane about his glasses on camera zero

47:35 all right so the tech syndicate team's going to be there paul and Kyle from Newegg might be there and then TLD today

47:41 and tech of tomorrow so Jonathan and Elrich are like pretty much 100% going

47:46 to be there so it's going to be an all-star cast of guys going up and

47:49 having a land at the top of the mountain peak it's going to be freaking awesome

47:54 and ASUS is making this possible with their I don't want to say too much about

47:58 it because I don't know how much information is out there but with a really cool gaming notebook some people

48:03 know PE uh I'm not Yeah let's just leave

48:06 it for now because I'm I'm not 100% sure so really cool gaming notebook Intel is

48:10 in on the action as well so these will be Core i7 powered gaming notebooks and

48:14 finally Corsair is making us hike to the top of a mountain carrying RGB keyboards

48:19 we're very thankful to Corsair for being involved in making this event possible

48:23 but I really wish I didn't have to carry a mechanical keyboard with an aluminum

48:26 back plate up a mountain but it's going to be awesome guys there's going to be

48:30 some great content coming out of this some collabs some vlogs so be excited

48:34 for that and a huge thanks to those guys someone in the chat just said "Hey

48:38 guys." Hey guys welcome to the world's highest land party

48:43 when I I This is the first time I would have like formally met Lou or Austin oh

48:47 yeah e3 yeah and I was like semi-

48:50 disappointed that right when I walked a walked up Austin wasn't like "Hey guys."

48:55 I was really hoping that was going to happen oh I love trolling him about that

48:58 it's so fun so fun the the the video that he posted on his channel from CES

49:03 with him uh Dimmitri Dmitri from Hardware Connects I think it was me and

49:09 MKBHD um he's he like wanted everyone to

49:12 introduce themselves and I'm like "Hey guys it's me Lionus from Lionus Tech

49:17 Tips." And Austin's just like "No."

49:22 That's great oh he's a good guy i'm really looking forward to this trip it's

49:25 gonna be a lot of fun that was awesome did you Did you know that we posted a

49:29 video on L's channel no nick myself Brandon Austin were all in a video on

49:34 L's channel oh that's cool it's uh we got to check out the possibly a

49:39 prototype like they're using it for case manufacturing iPhone 6 oo yeah and he

49:45 like he dropped it on the table while already filming and we're all just like

49:49 what what is this and he like told us what it was on film and then we have all

49:53 first impressions and everything lou is such a badass i how how does he get this

49:58 stuff he is a badass that's all there is to say about it that's all there is to

50:02 say he's a badass uh I really I really

50:06 wanted him to come to the Highlander event and he really wanted to come but

50:09 it just didn't work out this time but uh you know guys don't be surprised to see

50:14 some kind of collaborative effort between Linus Tech Tips and Unbox

50:17 Therapy sometime sometime to to kind of make up for that to each other because

50:21 we we owe each other to to hang out i I and I think Lou was pretty disappointed

50:25 when he messaged me he was like "Hey do you want to get together?" Blah blah blah you guys are at E3 i'm like "Yeah

50:30 I'm not actually there my guys are there but I'm not." He's just

50:33 like "Okay

50:37 okay." And then we ended up going to a

50:40 dinner and a lunch with him so Brandon

50:43 Nick and I have met Lou more times than you have i think I have

50:48 had I I the I don't know if I've had

50:52 more meals with him than you actually cuz I bailed on him at CES cuz I had to

50:56 go to like AMD's party and they were

51:00 they like paid our way for that two days they covered our hotel and everything

51:04 and if I didn't show up at that party I was going to be like a really bad person

51:08 and I bailed on I bailed on Lou and Lamar Wilson and uh who else was there

51:12 for that i got to meet Lamar Wilson as well yeah

51:15 i suck i'm a bad person speaking of things that suck this product really

51:20 doesn't make a lot of sense to me i wouldn't say it sucks i think it's a

51:23 it's a cool idea the original articles on Hexus and this is Philips's um

51:28 virtually seamless twoin- one monitor so they showed this off at Comp Computex

51:32 and what they've basically done is they've put two ultra thin bezel 19in

51:38 display panels on a single stand and

51:41 they allow them to be rotated up to 22 1/2° this won um a Computex Gold Award

51:49 for outstanding innovation which was a little bit confusing to me because

51:52 Samsung had their MDX series which allowed you to have three or six panels

51:57 off of a single stand um quite a while back and I'm pretty sure that you know

52:03 monitor stands have been doing this for a while but the innovation here is the

52:08 virtual seamlessness between the monitors the one thing that I really

52:13 question about it and sort of why I segueed into this with speaking of sucks

52:17 is the one thing I question here is what is the value here compared to a 21 by9

52:23 monitor which has are these individually able to

52:27 be rotated yes the if if you can flip one completely over I might understand

52:32 it for office situations flip it over no not like that like you can you can move

52:36 them a bit oh not that yeah so compared to just a completely flat monitor I

52:40 guess it's nice to have them angled in at you a little bit but for this product

52:44 to be a success I would have to see it be very inexpensive i would have to see

52:48 it be targeted at business users who are

52:52 typically buying you know whatever uh that Acer one that we really like with

52:56 the slim bezel who are typically buying something like that and putting them next to each other if you're going to

53:00 save me a few millimeters of bezel space um I don't expect to pay a massive

53:04 premium for it so that's my sort of take on that

53:08 i' I've seen cuz when I first saw this which was very not that long ago I

53:13 assumed that you could take one of them and flip it over because I've seen that be pretty interesting in office

53:17 situations because if someone's sitting on the other side of the desk right and you want to show them put me on that

53:21 monitor flip it over it'll auto correct when it gets to the other side and they can see it and that's actually kind of

53:25 cool but then yeah I guess not all right so moving on to Daron's Magv keyboard

53:32 you want to cover this you're the keyboard dork um I'm just ah see but I'm

53:37 not really that interested i know I cover things I'm not interested in all

53:41 the time i don't think this is a good idea every time I talk well then say

53:44 it's not a good idea that's what this show is idea because Okay so it's the

53:47 it's the weekly analysis and news show

53:51 analyze can't spell analyze without anal

53:55 okay so it's blah blah blah blah blah you can you can this will hopefully be

53:59 able to get uh reduction in thickness in notebooks because you don't need as much

54:02 space for the keys yeah for like the plastic junk that goes in there yeah

54:05 yeah yeah and they're using magnetic levitation to keep the keys in a raised

54:09 position which already sounds potentially not good um it's I I don't

54:15 That's about it i'm worried about the magnetic levitation thing because you can throw off magnets with uh minor

54:21 impacts and it's in a laptop that's true so if

54:25 it bumps around too much and stuff like a lot of people are throwing SSDs in laptops now and then not treating them

54:30 as carefully as they did when they used to have hard drives in them right because a big problem with tossing your

54:33 notebook around used to be the hard drive if you throw magnets in there

54:37 impacts could be an issue um another thing is the depth is not very high

54:43 which is the whole point they're trying to slim it down more but the whole point

54:48 is that that's going to suck because if you've ever tried typing on a completely

54:53 flat surface that's terrible speaking of surface I see this being very applicable

54:57 for something like Microsoft Surface yeah I could see that something like a

55:01 type cover could benefit from this where thinness is the priority not um you know

55:06 the the tactile feedback yeah um but it looks like initial impressions of this

55:11 are that the travel distance isn't long enough and then I don't really see there

55:15 being any benefit on something like a going over just a straight up touch like

55:19 a more normal size notebook like that this is this is fairly large where you

55:23 have room for a larger design or this one this this is Yeah yeah yeah yeah

55:28 there you go um I don't know it's just it's it's

55:32 going to be a bad typing experience and if you just went for like a capacitive

55:36 touch which is going to feel worse but if if thickness is the priority I've t

55:42 you did you ever type on the touch cover from the original it was terrible but it

55:47 was really thin and I mean yeah

55:51 like this i don't think this is going to be a great experience is it going to be enough to be because it's probably going

55:55 to be thicker than a capacitive type oh yeah for sure it'll be thicker than that

56:00 so So you're going thicker you're sacrificing that thinness for a slightly

56:03 better experience which is still not a good experience well you haven't tried

56:07 it yet yeah but I I I can I'm making

56:10 assumptions to be 100% honest but I don't think it's going to be a very good

56:13 typing experience i don't know i'm It's It's interesting because it's new

56:17 technology although I don't I don't really think it's going to be a huge

56:20 thing personally all right so let's move on to something that I'm extremely buttthurt about this isn't the kind of

56:25 thing stupid this isn't the kind of thing that we normally cover on this

56:28 show like oh Google changed one feature or Apple added one thing to their You

56:34 know what this is so ridiculous google

56:38 is doing away with the ability to add a

56:41 calendar invitation to an email i use this every single day we use this a lot

56:47 it is so handy so in the old

56:51 days and like okay I'll any in the old

56:56 days all you had to do was within an email click add calendar invitation it

57:02 pops up a little box and anyone else who gets that email can say yes no maybe and

57:08 it automatically adds that event to your own calendar so that you don't have to

57:12 go over to your calendar set it up find

57:16 a sharable link to it go back to your email and send it to someone and the

57:19 reason they're doing away with it is because spammers are using it to send

57:23 calendar invitations to

57:27 people okay why do we care so So what

57:31 we're gonna we're gonna cancel email because spammers are using it to send

57:35 unwanted messages to you don't have to accept the invitation

57:40 super dumb super not impressed we actually do use this a lot and the thing

57:44 is it's not just internally we do use a lot internally but I'll get messages

57:48 from people that we're working with with calendar invites this is going to get

57:51 super annoying like why take it out it's

57:55 It's like they don't want me to use Gmail google's been doing a lot of weird

57:59 crap lately so mad and it's one of those things where it's like you know what

58:03 we're business users like if you're

58:06 going to take it away fine take it away from the free accounts or something and

58:11 then even though if if we're talking paid accounts then I don't think you're

58:15 going to have an issue with people abusing it because you there's not going to be that many to filter through and

58:19 find out who's abusing it right whereas business users need this kind of

58:25 thing anything that saves a little bit of time is enough to convince me to

58:28 change platforms and like taking integration away rather

58:34 than building it up is infuriating so

58:38 I'm mad i'm making sure you guys all know that I'm mad and I guess that's all

58:42 I really have to say about it yeah i don't know there's there's really not

58:46 that much else to say about it happy topic swiftkey yeah Swift Key is free

58:50 now dog that's awesome i posted this on Facebook and it was basically like Swift

58:55 Key is free go get it please uh this was posted originally on the forum by Top

58:59 War Gamer thank you very much for posting that um basically don't feel bad

59:03 if you paid though you get 10 free skins

59:06 so you get like a 10 pack of cool looking skins for your keyboard so I

59:10 went and cashed that in right away in fact you know it's funny cuz normally I

59:13 don't really give a crap about skins or

59:16 free perks or whatever for software that I have but Swift Key I was like I was on

59:21 that yeah and everyone at NCIX today because we've all got Swift Key I was

59:25 like "Did you get your packs?" They're like "Yeah

59:28 that's pretty cool that's pretty cool." And like when I first heard about this I

59:32 didn't know about the the theme packs and all that kind of stuff and I was like "Damn I bought that not that long

59:36 ago." And I was semi- disappointed and then I talked to this guy and he's like

59:39 "Free theme packs?" And I'm like "Awesome they handled it really well."

59:43 And I mean you know what even if I did pay for it and and now it's free I still

59:48 don't feel bad about it i got my money i like Swift Key i I it tells me it tells

59:52 me how many hundreds of thousands of keystrokes I've saved you know there's

59:55 still something I really wish they would address and that's when it auto corrects

59:59 something and you don't like it when you backspace it really needs to revert

60:04 like please someone at Swift Key feels awkward can you please just go fix that

60:09 um that's something that that's the one thing that the Google keyboard does way

60:13 better than Swift Key when I got Moto X again I was on Google Keyboard for a

60:18 little while and there are a few things like that that I like about it but

60:21 overall after using it for like a week or so you're like "Yeah I just need

60:25 Swift Key again." Every time Every time I do a phone review like I'm working on

60:29 the G3 right now yeah every time I do a phone review I try to use that vendor

60:32 stock keyboard for a bit and it's like a fiasco every time i'm just like "No no

60:37 no forget it." Can you leak some thoughts i'm interested i actually I

60:44 really like the vis it's off right now sorry um the camera's great i really

60:48 like the visual style of their uh of their latest skin uh some of the

60:52 navigation of their skin definitely needs some work um I I really liked

60:57 Sony's skin i really like HTC's i'm um

61:01 not a huge fan of Samsung's and so far I

61:04 would say this falls on the not a fan of it side of being a fan um but I haven't

61:10 spent much time with it and you can turn some things off that's what I noticed with the G2 i've only been switched to

61:14 it for like a day and a half oh actually

61:17 and there's definitely some cool stuff already like uh HTC copied the whole

61:21 double touch to turn the screen on thing yeah that's so nice hardcore copied it

61:25 well LG upped the ante this time because now you can do you can do a code so

61:31 instead of cuz double double tapping I find I accidentally activate it all the

61:35 time whereas now you can you can knock a code into the phone and it'll only

61:39 unlock if you do it a specific way i think that's really cool pretty cool i'm

61:42 down with that yeah so there's little stuff that I really like so far um but

61:47 guys stay tuned for the full review also I've got a I'm going to be working on

61:51 the Pad phone soon oh interesting pad phone X so that's that phone tablet

61:54 hybrid thing you can pull that out of the box what are your thoughts because

61:58 I'm a huge fan of the back buttons but what are your thoughts on the back buttons back buttons i like them so far

62:03 it's still very disconcerting cuz I've only been switched to it for a little while yeah yeah but this is the coolest

62:07 thing about it check this out i was going to say is is that a North American

62:11 blast from the past guys

62:14 antennas well is that a North American phone no it's not this is a Korean phone

62:18 it's for TV but uh I I got a kick out of it you know it's funny because I don't

62:24 understand why they don't just put it on the North American model because sometimes your reception is a little bit

62:29 borderline and I can't imagine it would hurt to have an external antenna nope

62:34 like I don't know why they're afraid to put it on people don't have to take it

62:37 out just have it on there and it's so small and light anyway this is the uh

62:42 this is the Padphone Phone X not that impressed with the bulkiness of it so

62:47 far um am that impressed with the

62:52 seamlessness of turning it into a tablet and it's not powered on right now but

62:56 yeah with the seamlessness of turning it into a tablet and with the fact that

62:59 it's going to be priced similarly to what would normally just be a standard

63:03 phone so stay tuned for that review as well this one between the fact that it

63:07 has wireless charging and the fact that it converts to a tablet may win me over

63:12 from the 1M8 so we'll see it's not

63:15 annoying when you hold it this way to have a phone cuz you can actually use the bottom of the phone thing to like

63:20 hold on to the tablet and it's got a solid hardware spec so it it may win me

63:25 over we'll see interesting no guarantees on that one um all right oh speaking of

63:30 Nintendo this was originally posted on the forum by Rafi and uh it's not

63:35 actually related to Nintendo but it's Microsoft trying to take feedback from

63:38 their users unfortunately and I'm not going to generalize about Xbox users but

63:44 unfortunately um some of the top voted

63:47 ideas are just stupid but basically the

63:50 site xbox.uservoice.com uservoice.com allows you to go and suggest things to

63:54 the Xbox team vote on other people's suggestions and just generally Microsoft

64:01 I guess they've just kind of given up they're like "We don't know what to do

64:04 so help us help you." And I'm glad

64:07 that's the right way to do it good job Microsoft so I just want to give them a

64:12 big thumbs up because I think we were beating them up a little bit what are some of the highrated terrible comments

64:16 oh this one with like 5,000 thumbs up is

64:20 um um oh can we get we want Xbox 360

64:25 game backwards compatibility and that's like the top

64:28 upvoted suggestion with like 5,000 thumbs up and I'm just kind of sitting

64:32 here going like are you are are you stupid like do you really think

64:36 Microsoft didn't think of that if that was a possibility like do you think they

64:40 didn't think of that we're we're talking emulating a console that is emulating a

64:46 console on a completely different architecture that's not you know two or

64:51 three generations ago it is it's a

64:55 stupid suggestion like the games would have to

65:00 be ported straight up and then you could make them available in the arcade or

65:04 something and is Microsoft really going to run around and and you know ask every

65:10 game developer to port all their games and put them in the market no it's like

65:15 yeah I I get that that's what you want but you have to focus on things that are

65:19 real i mean backwards compatibility for gaming consoles was never really a thing

65:26 it happened what once with the PS2 being backwards

65:30 compatible with the PS1 the PS3 had it initially but then it went away can you

65:34 play Xbox games on Xbox 360

65:38 some it was It was very It was a lot it was It was a scattershot thing though

65:42 yeah it was so you go back before it's

65:45 not like the SNES could play NES games

65:48 until like way later and you got this weird cartridge thing sorry the adapter

65:53 cartridge thing so you could get like weird adapter cartridges but even then

65:56 not all the games worked like it was like it's never really been a like yes

66:02 this is a thing we're 100% on board this you're going to be able to to to play

66:06 all your old games on your new consoles you can play Wii games on Wii U as well

66:10 yes you can but I'm just saying it's not

66:13 something that is all over the place people are saying GameCube games on Wii

66:18 i've I didn't know you could do that i don't

66:21 know how you do that yeah it's uh the small discs you just load them in the

66:25 the same way yeah you just you just aim yep like it happens i'm just saying it's

66:30 No I hear you yeah i'm just trying to give examples cuz people are freaking out in the chat it it's something where

66:34 it's not if it's not fundamentally built into it or the architecture isn't

66:38 somehow similar it's just not going to happen i mean the Wii was a lot more

66:41 powerful than the Gamecube which helps a lot the uh something like the Super

66:45 Nintendo was so much more powerful than the NES that we're we're talking about

66:50 using all that extra power to emulate something or however it needs to be

66:54 implemented with the Xbox One versus the Xbox 360 they're not similar enough and

66:58 the power difference is not enough i mean even PCs are having trouble

67:02 emulating Xbox 360 games that's very

67:05 difficult just emulation's weird that's why emulation's weird and the the the

67:10 truth of the matter is that even someone like Microsoft has to ultimately emulate

67:15 an older console unless they do what you

67:18 know Sony did with the early PS3s where they're just putting an emotion chip in

67:22 it and we saw how much that cost and how

67:25 they bailed on that like what was it months later yeah yeah those early

67:29 PlayStation 3s though are worth a lot of money because you can install Linux on

67:32 them and you can run them as like servers and stuff and you can emulate

67:36 old games and like yeah they're they're actually legitimately valuable people

67:39 are like backwards compatibility is just a number and I've got people in the

67:42 Twitch chat pointing out that the PC back has excellent backwards

67:46 compatibility yes it does it's amazing

67:49 whereas consoles it's just like random it's like

67:55 try putting a Nest cartridge into a Wii U um another thing uh Microsoft

67:59 announcement that I don't know if is in the dock is the Halo Master Chief

68:03 Edition did you hear about that at all

68:06 halo Master i don't think it's in the dock oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i heard

68:09 about that so we're getting a re-released what halos one two three

68:13 four three and four the numbered ones with Master Chief in it not the offshoots like ODST or Reach right um

68:19 it's it's it's interesting they're doing some cool things with it like the

68:23 remastered screenshots actually look really good right they're not changing

68:26 the mechanics and Halo 2 multiplayer is coming back which Halo 2 mi is coming

68:30 back halo 2 one Halo 1 multiplayer will exist on consoles we have to specify on

68:35 consoles because we were playing that like last week on PC um but it will

68:39 exist on consoles yay pc backwards compatibility

68:43 it actually runs better yeah it really

68:46 does and they're not going to like quote unquote fix things so like the pistol in

68:50 Halo 1 is still going to be massively overpowered which is great they'll have

68:53 an interesting They'll have a few interesting matchmaking modes like one where it's just all random so it'll just

68:58 cue you and you'll it'll like put your lobby and be like "Okay you're going to

69:01 play Halo 2 on this map." Nice and it'll

69:06 just launch that game and it can it can bounce around in between the games really well apparently it's supposed to

69:10 have seamless loading between games if you're going through campaign so like if

69:14 you finish Halo one it'll just be like you're now on First Mission Halo 2 nice

69:17 it just flows right through nice there's some interesting things so just like

69:21 when Arrested Development uh relaunched with all the all the episodes at once

69:26 and nobody slept it's going to be about like that I guess yeah yeah yeah i think

69:31 it would be interesting to play through all the campaigns and stuff back toback but like I don't see this selling Xbox

69:35 ones either i do 100% yeah i wouldn't buy an Xbox

69:41 One for it personally because if I had all these games I could just go back and

69:46 play them and the remastered thing is cool

69:49 ah being able to play online you've bought remastered games before yeah but

69:52 I haven't bought a console to buy the remastered games you know what I mean i

69:56 have definitely bought remastered games i actually do like remastered games i have no I actually really like that they

70:01 remastered Halo 1 and 2 i've bought remastered games

70:04 the the only thing that I could actually see them selling a console for is like Halo 2 multiplayer because remember how

70:09 big of a deal that was when they closed that down yep the guys that were like

70:12 refusing to shut down their consoles and people were like shipping them fans and

70:16 stuff to keep their consoles running like yeah shutting down the Halo 2

70:20 multiplayer servers was not a very cleancut decision so I think people are

70:24 going to be stoked that those are back i'd love to see them do this bundle on

70:28 the PC if they ask for if they ask for 60 bucks 75 bucks for it on the PC I'll

70:32 I'll pay for it i don't care 100% yeah that would be awesome preferably on

70:36 Steam that would be great yep no games for Windows Live

70:41 woo gets better and better all the time yeah yeah yeah someone Yeah someone just

70:45 said "Luke underestimates the nostalgia of Halo 2 multiplayer." Yeah i just had

70:48 that realization it'll it'll probably sell a console halo 2 multiplayer was a

70:53 really I played Halo 2 multiplayer so much ridiculous so yeah yeah it's a good

70:59 point speaking of uh speaking of new gen consoles let's talk old gen consoles for

71:03 a second uh I don't even know if this is really news but apparently uh Titanfall

71:08 runs at 600p at 46 FPS on the Xbox 360

71:13 so someone uh used uh capture device in

71:16 order to find out how many frames it was actually rendering so I thought that was

71:19 kind of interesting i was I was wondering it would it would be kind of

71:22 an interesting setup but it it'd be kind of fun to like benchmark consoles every

71:26 once in a while yeah because you can feel them chug you can feel them not run

71:30 at 30 or 60 FPS because they make these claims and I'm like well it's not going

71:33 to be a constant FPS anyways so when you're claiming this like craptastic

71:37 resolution and craptastic FPS is that

71:40 like when you're staring at the floor cuz who knows no in theory that's the

71:45 lowest dip right but it's there's no way

71:49 all right so this was originally posted on the forum by Dazed Cobra 42 and uh

71:54 this is something that some people think is no big deal other people think is a

71:59 huge deal and that is that Comcast is converting 50,000 home routers in

72:04 Houston into public Wi-Fi hotspots so

72:08 basically it'll only work if you're using your Comcast

72:13 uh wireless router modem combo unit and

72:17 whoever's accessing your router will not

72:20 be able to use up your data plan or see your home network but the idea is they

72:25 want to turn it into citywide Wi-Fi hotspots for their

72:30 customers apparently this is already a thing in other

72:34 countries and I' I've seen posts in the

72:37 thread on our forum where people are pretty positive about the idea and how

72:40 it works but one drawback that I can see is that

72:46 unless they're somehow managing the connection with

72:51 magic to ensure that my ping times in my

72:54 game don't get increased because someone is walking by you know u torrenting on

73:00 the sidewalk outside of my house if they can find a way that that doesn't happen

73:04 and they can't access my network and they can't uh utilize any of my monthly

73:10 bandwidth limitation then I guess I don't care i don't think any of those

73:14 things are going to happen and you can opt out okay you can opt out a lot of

73:18 people aren't going to know this is a thing but most people won't notice

73:23 at all so um this is super

73:27 dumb because like Yeah okay it's not going to affect your your your bill

73:32 but it's going to affect your availability but think about this okay

73:35 so as a Shaw customer or Telus customer or whatever you have at your place um

73:39 you want to tell us right okay so as a Telus customer if you

73:45 could you know let's okay here great example let's say E3 wasn't in um let's

73:51 say it wasn't in LA let's say it was in Toronto and or Okay I guess Toronto's a

73:56 bad example they don't have to tell us there okay whatever but point is what if E3 was in Vancouver so you're out of

74:00 your house you want to upload a video and public Wi-Fi is crap so it was what

74:06 i'm sorry it was public Wi-Fi was 100% so let's say public Wi-Fi was crap let's

74:09 say you're a Telus customer and all you have to do is walk down the street wait

74:14 to find another house that has a Teles customer in it beep beep boop and you've

74:17 got a solid internet connection where I can upload videos and destroy their

74:21 connection okay i didn't destroy it hold on i said "How would you feel about

74:27 being the person who has access to Wi-Fi hotspots everywhere?" I would feel good

74:31 and I would destroy that kid's internet who's just trying to play a video game

74:35 cuz that's why the public Wi-Fi there was terrible everyone was just trying to

74:39 upload stuff the whole time and it was bad i have a screenshot on Twitter of

74:43 our like estimated upload time 20,000 minutes from our hotel because the the

74:48 internet was just like nope so yeah your

74:51 your your your your bill isn't going to be worse the integrity of your data is

74:56 probably not going to be harmed the availability of things online is

75:00 probably going to have an issue and that's not okay in my opinion so Steph

75:04 says "The Comcast thing has been around in Belgium for almost a decade it has a

75:08 four user limitation and shaped traffic." Okay well those are things I

75:12 didn't know about okay but this is this is in Belgium this is not Comcast

75:15 comcast might implement it however they implement it but there's a precedent for

75:19 this oh and apparently it's nationwide

75:22 currently available for business class customers now it's going to residential so there you go interesting i mean as

75:28 long as it doesn't affect it I am pretty happy about it if I'm on one of these

75:33 things and it's available to me and I'm ever near someone's house I'm just going

75:36 to wreck their connection unless they unless it's unless it's shaped or

75:39 throttled so that you can't destroy it it's not going to be that helpful

75:44 unless all you need to do is like you know find a But then you should be using

75:48 your cell phone if you're just looking up a map or whatever okay well let's say

75:52 your cell phone's out of battery but you happen to have your laptop and no USB

75:58 cables and no USB ca No uh yes and no USB cables and no battery banks whatever

76:03 screw you um let's do a Twitter blitz let's do a

76:08 Twitter blitz let's let you guys tell us what you think of this are you okay with

76:12 your ISP allowing other people to use your connection as long as and this is I

76:16 guess they should use their quabillions of dollars and just set up proper public

76:21 Wi-Fi okay this is another thing that really bothers me remember when that story broke about the back doors that

76:26 were built into all these routers so if you're saying the integrity thing oh

76:29 they're not going to see your network someone's going to figure it out so if if it was

76:33 bulletproof then it's fine like if we were if we were talking like like two

76:39 separate you know firmware firmwares

76:42 running on the on like two separate storage devices on the router like and

76:47 they're like sharing two in sharing physical resources but otherwise a

76:52 completely different set of software then I'm like yeah okay whatever fine go

76:55 for it if we're talking about somehow

76:59 this can be exploited I'm I'm sure and there's got to be something in terms of

77:02 data sniffing because you're going on the same line i don't know i don't know

77:07 enough about that but when you're when you're on a different network because I

77:11 have to I don't I'm not sure how they're splitting it which is part of the

77:15 problem so Stefan says oops uh Stefan

77:18 says um connection is entirely separated from yours uh data plan wise also

77:23 bandwidth it's not necessarily like I don't know if they

77:28 can necessarily do that not not probably enough right because

77:34 like they're shaping it or whatever but is it giving 100% priority to the person

77:39 in the house 100% because we we utilize

77:44 our data connection here at Lis Media Group a lot so if this happened to our

77:47 router and we somehow didn't turn off the option thing if we didn't opt out we

77:52 instantly opt out but if we didn't we

77:55 would be we would possibly have issues if they had any percentage of the

77:59 connection right because we like we're in Canada we don't have that great of

78:02 internet and we we really utilize our internet connection that's another thing

78:06 if you have like a crazy pipe going to that house maybe it's not as big of a

78:11 deal um Alakan is saying that on Tech

78:15 Syndicate they were talking about Comcast using your electricity for this

78:19 yeah I get it but you're you're H it seems pretty negligible I mean yeah

78:26 they are it's not right and it's not it's not it's not right but it's not the

78:30 kind of thing that I would probably lodge a complaint with my you know local

78:34 representative about

78:37 um okay wow i got 36 responses now but

78:42 they should just have public router yeah exactly they they should be doing this

78:46 infrastructure on their own they shouldn't be utilizing other customers right nothing is bulletproof when it

78:51 comes to networking again I don't know how you're going to do it someone's

78:54 going to figure out some way wait where'd you where'd you get that up a little bit oh yeah nothing is

78:57 bulletproof when it comes to networking that's a very important point uh Sam

79:00 says "ISPs need to become less intrusive give us a good service and shut up we

79:05 don't get the water company calling us offering better water." You know what

79:08 Sam that is a retweet right there that

79:11 is the first time we have ever taken something on the WAN Show and it has

79:15 been so bang on that we have to tweet it immediately that was really good um they

79:21 need to ask and his last name is really close to

79:24 fluoride good no I don't care i'm not looking at

79:29 it fine that's not that close it's not close at

79:34 all i thought it was closer

79:38 anyways

79:41 you should test your XPS12 for image burn-in issue uh the image burn-in issue

79:45 is terrible on my XPS12 like like super

79:49 bad like I can see my desktop and I am in I am in metro mode so yes I'm aware

79:54 of the issue it's terrible it doesn't

79:58 really affect me using the computer and I still do like it comcast may be able

80:02 to increase your bandwidth if you're sharing a connection but I'm against this security breach imminent security

80:06 breach imminent no it's mine if you're giving me a

80:10 monthly discount to offer up my connection to others now we're talking

80:14 that's a good point Nathaniel and I could see but they're going to be like you get 50 cents or nothing or or lower

80:20 yeah nothing um they have their own hotspot infrastructure yep which is what

80:25 they should be doing tom asks "How's your experience with the Pebble Steel going?" Really like the ID it is It is

80:31 much nicer looking in my opinion than the old Pebble that I had you did order

80:35 one in bright orange yeah but it was

80:39 more about the bulk and the and the plastickiness this has a glass front

80:43 panel which makes a big difference to readability especially now that I've scratched the heck out of a plastic one

80:48 um and I think it just looks way more professional way more stylish i I'm very

80:52 pleased so far using the hotspot to download torrent and not using my

80:56 monthly cap yay you know what i got to wonder because Shaw has Shaw has public

81:01 hotspots and I wonder if it counts towards your

81:04 cap because you have to log into them and dodging uh touring stuff if you

81:10 pirateed on the public network using a Wi-Fi connection but if they are if they

81:16 ask you to log in with your customer ID the way that Shaw does then it'll Good

81:20 call that's even more trackable yeah yeah there's there isn't even any

81:24 plausible deniability like "Oh I didn't have my Wi-Fi network secured it with

81:27 someone outside my house um if anyone is using my internet I'll go completely mad

81:31 don't want people making me No no you don't pay for the other people to use your internet it doesn't work that way

81:36 it doesn't count towards your bandwidth limit i've been here for years in the

81:40 UK allow you to opt in oh so you have to

81:45 opt in to use other people's hotspots

81:48 okay that's kind of all right if it starts but you were talking you can opt

81:53 out this is a you would have to opt in like I like this system that's cool yeah

81:57 I like that swallox is not okay

82:02 hell no especially not considering Comcast's reputation yeah it's kind of a

82:06 That's like Yeah you have to assume anything coming out of there is going to

82:09 be terrible to find why it's terrible

82:12 it's usually not that hard though let's play the find why it's terrible game

82:18 featuring Comcast and EA

82:23 ea hasn't done anything that evil lately have they they probably I haven't been

82:27 paying a ton of attention there's probably been some all right well I

82:30 think that's pretty much it for the WAN Show guys oh right okay i'll let you

82:36 talk about Oculus again for a second this was originally posted on the forum by Top War Gamer and Facebook boss Mark

82:41 Zuckerberg sees Oculus as a chance to get the device into as many hands as

82:45 possible price be damned and he says uh

82:49 oh uh there's there's that quote saying the Oculus Rift will sell at the lowest

82:53 cost possible there's also Palmer saying that it will sell at cost what Palmer

82:57 actually meant by selling at cost was including things like bomb cost shipping

83:04 distribution all that stuff so like they're not looking to gain money off of

83:10 sales of individual Oculus they just don't want to lose they're not losing

83:14 money though mark Zuckerberg doesn't seem to give any cares no yeah lose all

83:18 the money put Oculuses in the hands of everyone um there's been a ton of stuff

83:22 coming out there was the interview that I had um where he was talking about how

83:27 um tons of people are working on input

83:30 stuff that's even not announced right and then there was another interview

83:35 where he actually like semi admitted to

83:38 Oculus working on other hardware that isn't the Rift interesting they're

83:44 working on their own input solutions they're working on all that kind of stuff they're also working on firstparty

83:48 games so developing their own games under Oculus and with recent hires like

83:53 one of the co-founders of Naughty Dog some people are expecting some like

83:58 pretty legit stuff so interesting things

84:01 coming out of there i would highly recommend to shill for myself and tell

84:05 everyone to go watch the Oculus video where I talked to Palmer about how 30

84:08 FPS gaming is pathetic yeah how cool was that for you that was really

84:12 cool that was awesome um highlight of

84:15 the trip yeah probably before that the highlight of the trip was control VR

84:19 which no one is watching um but then but then I got to talk to Palmer which was

84:24 actually really really cool speaking of things um people should people should

84:28 watch the show's the show's kind of over at this point oh yeah yeah yeah um ASUS

84:33 North America so we just had uh we had a

84:37 video that we created for ASUS that they just launched on their channel so you

84:42 guys should definitely go check it out oh put it all the sound hold on where is

84:47 it here we go here we go here we go i'm posting it in the Twitch chat right now

84:51 a couple people are saying that they watched it thanks guys i appreciate it

84:55 it's getting less views than our like totally unknown game indie content which

84:59 is like oh no that's not the one that Oh people are saying they watched your video okay the one that I'm posting is

85:04 um me and Luke having a night battle over the opportunity to uh to to like

85:10 win a notebook so it's like it's kind of it's kind of funny which is funny

85:13 because we both ended up with them yeah I know i never realized that part of the

85:16 story line that's awesome what is this all right

85:23 thanks for watching guys you know okay oh okay we should we should like end the

85:28 stream do do our intro thing end the stream and then start up an afterparty

85:31 afterwards because that's what we did last time and I know they probably didn't but I heard Taran plotting we

85:37 don't have any water this week

85:41 we need to We have moldy Twinkies oh my god

85:45 okay we definitely have moldy Twinkies Twinkies and Minecraft weapons

85:53 this could legitimately hurt someone yeah okay we're prepared you're more

85:58 prepared than me this could like actually damage them all right guys

86:02 thanks for watching we'll see you again next week byebye