all right guys welcome to the WAN Show not the most organized one that we've
ever started i didn't even do my hair or change my shirt and you're like wearing
a firefighter shirt which is of course the the best Linus TechTip shirt of all
you're wearing it i know i know i I we we both failed we're both bad people
okay and this is a bad show as long as we're equally terrible i actually think
it's a fantastic show it's a great show we have tons of stuff you guys this week
we actually I we say that every week but we do have a ton of stuff this week he
was just at E3 which is the
uh adult Adult Entertainment Expo adult
adult no oh oh adult i pretended to
misunderstand and also not know how adult was spelled which is funny because
Wow oh how was the trip it was It was uh Am
I going through everything it's a long story yeah no I don't care it was It was
actually pretty good the most surprising thing was that E3 is like not a presson
event like nope not at all they have
signs all over the place like "Oh presson event blah blah blah blah blah."
And then the lineup for will call for people that bought their tickets was the
longest one you know it's funny because it's like CES where it's industry blah
blah blah only and you walk around and like most of the people there are just
off the street yeah but there was actually a considerable amount of people that just bought their ticket you know
how at like CES you had to like at least be friends with someone it's like no you
could just straight up buy your ticket and a lot of people did it like there was some mom and her like 12-year-old
kid that were just walking around like probably like a prodigy game dev
yeah that was it was Yeah that that was
weird and like at at PAX East when we
went to Oculus I was able to walk up and be like "Hey we're press can we get a
can we get something and they were like "Well we don't have any interview um
like time slots open but we can sit you down and run you through all the
different demos and have a guy talk to you but he just can't be on camera."
We're like "Okay cool e3 walk up and they're like "No press stuff wait wait
in line." It's like "This is a supposed to be a presson event and you have no
press stuff." So I had to wait in line multiple times because I couldn't even
like hop systems to try all the different games and stuff but then it
ended up being awesome because I was able to like find Palmer in the booth
and be like "Hey can we get an interview?" So we ended up getting like one of the best interviews at E3 that's
fantastic for Oculus just randomly which was great you guys have fun overall it
was good there was there was stuff that we don't have time to talk about which Are you releasing the blog video of the
hotel i don't know it's It's We're We're
not sure but I have footage and I might show it off on the afterparty i I get a
kick out of all the people being like there's no video because I actually have
a preview of the stream running on my computer right now so
if if there is no video then that's Yeah I think it's on your side uh all right
so why don't we jump right into our our hot topics of the day so I've got two
hot topics for you that are sort of related gta 5 is coming to the
PC and um Dead Rising 3 is coming to the
PC
i mean that's it's good that that an exclusive franchise is moving to PC but
we well we have more to tell you later about why this is just the completest
epic fail that um it Well okay it could have been worth I don't know how much
worse it could be okay you go you go ahead you give some topics that we're going to talk about today uh next next
generation consoles are probably coming faster than we expected and that's not
surprising cuz the current ones are really not that strong or good at all
instead of calling them next gen can we be like shampoo and call them new and
improved gen next new nextG console like
the the like the the Nintendo thing and then the next one can be new and
improved nextG and then after that it can be like redesigned packaging which
they already do you know where they have like a Modern Warfare skin on the
console or whatever like they should just completely rip off shampoo and just
do it that way new an enhanced formula uh and then we
have the mag lev keyboard because magnets yo magnets dog all right so
without further ado here is the uh the
Okay I'll just press it
this is great someone's like "Now with 30% more
gen." Yes oh I love
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wow I'm blanking thank you and Corsair
for sending Luke there see he's the one who's been saying that all week yep
whereas I've been focused on Highlander and the fact that there's some overlap
between them oh yeah that's a good point it's
like what am I doing yeah yeah no that
was awesome we actually have a Nintendo recap video of like all of the games
that are coming out in terms of Wii U uh is Nintendo getting their mojo back why
don't we make that our first topic let's go
nintendo's year like 100% you walk into
one of the halls you see a gigantic Nintendo banner you see completely
vacant booths and then you see no walking space at all around the Nintendo
area because it's full the press area was completely full there was lineup
cues to try every single like little station and the non- press area was even
more full uh the the invitational stream
was insane there was 100,000 people watching the Smash Bros invitational
before they started playing like people care they had they
had Best Buys around the world had Smash Bros and people were able to go play and
there was pictures of Best Buys where there was a lineup all the way around
the Best Buy and then down the street just to be able to play so for all the
doom and gloom around Nintendo and they are still losing money yep are they at
least recapturing their mojo i think they're recapturing their mojo they have
they have stuff like Smash Bros coming which should have been here already they got Zelda coming they have that new
Zelda announcement which looks amazing and that should have been here already
there's a lot of stuff that should have been here already let's just make this the Nintendo the Nintendo uh segment so
let's go through all of our Nintendo stuff so so go ahead tell give us your
thoughts then we'll jump into that uh Nintendo has already apparently actually
no we'll move on okay whatever talk about Nintendo and then I'll jump in with other stuff they they have I in in
the video that's coming in like 18 minutes they have I think 11 different
games like really big very important very well polished games that they could
probably release today because they're all playable there right and totally
smooth no problems fully playable um that were just amazing and stuff stuff
from Yoshi Toad uh Mario like main Mario
sequence games the Mario Maker game looks amazing and I got to play with it there and it was really good um Hyrule
Warriors is polished and really fun uh the Zelda game looks amazing all of
these big titles that probably should have come earlier um but I think it's
going to be okay i The hype around Nintendo at E3 was insane like the
PlayStation and Xbox stuff was fairly populated and stuff that you would
expect to be populated like Borderlands and like Far Cry there was a fairly
large lineup but the lineup to play and get like hands-on interaction with Far
Cry and Assassin's Creed and like Borderlands these big titles were not as
big and not as engaged as anything at Nintendo including like I I can't even
remember what it's called right now but some Squid Game where you like run
around and paint things but it was tons of fun it's It looked super stupid but
it's it's called Turf War yeah and you just run around with these paint guns
and you have to like cover all the ground in paint and it's an FPS at the
same time so you're covering the ground in paint to gain points and whoever has the most ground covered in their color
of paint at the end wins but you can kill the other guys and then they get a
respawn timer and they respond in the back of their base that sounds like a lot of fun it was actually It was really
competitive despite how like kind of casual filthy casual yeah totally filthy
casual but it was super competitive and there was that was one of the most lined up for games splatoon that's what it was
called thanks Nick yeah thanks Nick it's called Splatoon but that was that was
actually so much fun and that I had never even heard of that before and that
was that was awesome so there's I don't know i'm scared okay what's your what's
your highlight from Nintendo oh Smash Bros smash Bros was amazing and that's
super boring but it was amazing neither of the people in this room gives any
cares about this because neither of us ever owned a game cube did we no but I
got to play with both and I got to talk to multiple people that were in the
Smash Bros invitational about Smash Bros um so I have feedback on Smash Bros and
the Gamecube controller and stuff i asked the guy who won the invitational
who was playing with me which was super cool um what yeah I I won shut up yeah
can we let you win a nice guy there was No there was two guys from the
invitational and a like fairly high-end on the competitive side employee of
Nintendo for Smash Bros and then me and we were all playing and the employee of
Nintendo picked a super overpowered character and the two invitational guys
were trying to fight him off because he had a super overpowered character and I
was Kirby so I did that like you turn into a rock and smash thing and I got
multiple kills that way and then ended up winning they weren't trying to focus
me but because they were focusing someone else I took advantage of it and
won which is fantastic nice um but yeah
the the Gamecube controller and I got to talk okay you haven't actually told anyone what we're talking about so
Nintendo is releasing a GameCube controller adapter for the Wii U that
will allow you to plug in four Gamecube controllers I think okay couple of
things number one is why the hell hasn't
everyone been doing this all along why can't I use an Xbox 360 controller on
the Xbox One if I like it better microsoft what's your problem like what
is the problem with carrying forward and back compatibility on controllers it's
an artificially imposed limitation a lot of the time and it just doesn't make any
sense and you know what even though Nintendo legitimately justifiably can't
use GameCube controllers on the Wii U they are allowing it to happen they are
facilitating it and they're making it reasonable 20ucks 20 bucks 20 bucks
20ucks not even that bad i mean we're talking about the price delta between a
current gen controller and a last gen controller and you're getting the
adapter to use as many lastg controllers as you want i mean that is such a
customerfriendly thing to do just go look yeah okay you don't like classic
controller you don't like pro controller you want to use what you're familiar
with what you like yes let's give it to you why isn't everyone doing this yeah
and you can you can even use like the old GameCube Waveird wireless
controllers that's compatible with the adapter so like they're just like yeah
know it works which is fantastic i talked to the competitive guys and I
tried the GameCube controller again i never had a GameCube and that controller
always felt weird but playing Smash Bros with it felt right and people are
pointing out the original Wii had it built in by default yeah yeah you just
down you just pull down the flap and you can get it but I mean you can't you
can't have it built in forever so I understand why they're doing it the way
they're doing i just think that Microsoft and Sony could take a page out
of this book where it's giving your customers the choice i mean Nintendo's
actually done a good job of that even on the original Wii so you've got your Wii
remote you got your classic controller you got your nunchuck and Wii remote
combo you've got your Gamecube controller you can basically do things the way that you want and I think that's
fantastic yeah but my my main question for them was why not the Pro Controller
versus the Gamecube controller and the feedback from You mean for the players
for the players yes the feedback from the I'm helping you i'm keeping you on track here the feedback from the very
competitive guys was the layout of the Gamecube controller is faster and more
efficient and also the analog stick placement like this is still layout but
analog stick placement is a lot better for comboing buttons mhm and all of that
totally makes sense and I kind of felt it while I was there because especially
that little yellow stick you can flick that and press a button really easily
right so I totally understand why you would want a GameCube controller and
then they have they if you don't have old GameCube controllers and you're
worried about like local stores running out they're going to be releasing what like a $30 Smash Bros gamecube
controller nice i believe that's what it is so you'll be able to buy new ones if
that's the case or if you want to make sure your old ones are still fine you can just buy a new one so for 150 bucks
you will be able to completely kit out your Wii U and Gamecube controllers
that's not bad that's That's really And if you're willing to buy controllers
used you can do it a lot cheaper than that yep yep definitely you can get
GameCube controllers pretty cheap although I would probably do that quickly yeah really before everyone
catches on to this yeah before before Gamecube controllers just start flying
off shelves everywhere um but yeah that was that was a ton of fun uh what else
was there i got to play Hyrule Warriors
um and it it was smooth i I was never a huge fan of what is it called dynasty
Warriors never a Well okay i was never a
huge fan because I never had it right but like it it was fun it was fun to
play it's an interesting new IP for them but it does seem even with very rarely
playing Dynasty Warriors I I was like "Yeah I'm I'm playing Dynasty Warriors
but as Link or Zelda right which is I
don't know it was kind of fun." All right let's talk about Mario Maker um so
this was originally posted on the forum by Top War Gamer so thank you for that
but uh your your thoughts on it you played around with it a little bit right yeah uh really really smooth and very
fast extremely fast my my concern with
something like this is is the same as my concern with any any game that kind of
goes "Hey we're giving you guys the reins." Um I like games that are
designed by professional game designers um did were they allowing people to
create their own levels while while you were there and were you able to play
other people's levels or how was the whole experience i got to play levels of
two again two of the competitive guys i was kind of going around with them for a little while um and that was kind of fun
because they were making absolutely ridiculous levels right like n
impossible levels because they're competitive guys um and that was kind of
fun but even if something's ridiculous you can you can jump into the editor at
any point in time of any level even levels that come stock with the game and
move your character so if you're like "This part's dumb," you can just be like "I'm now here." And keep going which is
actually kind of nice because one of the competitive guys accidentally made part
of it impossible he he didn't realize one of the things was going to jump onto
a certain thing that it did right so he was like "Oh okay whatever." And just
edit his character up onto the next point and then kept going which was
actually kind of nice um and you can also liveit anything so if you play one
of the stock maps you can live edit it so you can like add things to make it
more difficult and change things um and
my biggest worry was actually something that you just brought up other people's
levels right now they don't have it set up so that you can actually download off
of a community but they were like yeah every single
person pretty much who's played has suggested that right so not saying
anything's going to happen but yeah and one thing that was fairly interesting
about Nintendo is they had a slight indie feel the whole time where when you
go to aaa place it's just like game stations where you can play and PR
people yeah they had the developers for a lot of the games walking the floor
talking to people that's really cool it was really cool like the the the main
guy behind Splatoon every single time was going around to every single person
that was playing and asking them what their thoughts were after the game and like with a notepad legitimately writing
things down that's fantastic i mean that's something that really I I I find
differentiates one company from another one i mean we see the same thing at CES
where there's certain companies you go to their booth and it's like the
president or like VP of worldwide marketing or or whatever and typically
it's smaller companies but seeing big ones behave like that is really and you
see it sometimes it's not only Nintendo but it was it was very nice to see it at
No you do see it from time to time i mean even at CES we've met people like I
I met uh some senior director level i
actually met the CEO of WD at a party last year like you do run into these
people but it's usually really difficult and the fact that they were just there
in the booth was actually really cool and you you'd never really know like
they weren't wearing shirts that were like dev team like they had Nintendo
shirts but they just kind of looked like average employees right but if you
recognized them you could tell and a lot of people didn't so it was actually fine
they could kind of move around freely but it was really cool to see them picking up all that feedback and even
other employees they were using as like proxies essentially so those other
employees would ask questions and then I saw them like they'd meet up and exchange notes and then keep going like
they were really hardcore about getting feedback from people which is cool and
apparently that's where the Gamecube controller thing came from right so many
fans demanded a different input solution for Smash Bros when it came out but they
were like "Hey we'll just make this $20 little device it solves all the
problems." That's great what a great attitude yeah
that was like I said this was Nintendo's year they rocked E3 100% i got some
really cool I don't know if I was supposed to take these but um I the
voting cards from the Nintendo Invitational yes did you see how that
worked when they they held up the cards no they were like this big and you voted
for which character should win or whatever and it was like this book of
voting cards you are such an embarrassment sometimes he has no shame
when it comes to swag like I I've been in the industry a long time and
companies will be like "Here do you want the swag bag at our booth?" And I'm like
"No it's okay i really I don't even have anywhere to put this stuff at this point." And he's like he's going to be
like "Oh uh yeah I'll take it." Also I'll have Linuses do you have any other
stuff do you have any stuff that's just a part of your actual booth fixture that
I can just take it i've tried that before it's worked before you know
what's funny though um and let's move on to uh let's move on to our Did you have
anything else particularly for Nintendo cuz I've got a great segment uh the other stuff would just be in the video
which is up in like 7 minutes so be sure to check that out all right so let's
move on to speaking of booth swag the designed by Razer licensing program this
was officially posted or originally posted by Lafere on the Linus Tech Tips
forum thank you very much for that i'm going to switch over to my screen here
and oh there it goes that was interesting so this is the Razer Special
Edition H440 it is basically an NZXT H440 but
with what are they calling it a special edition H440 for gamers by gamers
designed by Razer H440
oh it's probably this adapter yes it is technostream
oh now stop well I'm holding it now um anyway so
this is it's got like a designed by Razer badge um right here and that's
pretty cool um but truthfully that that
this case isn't the big news to me the big news here is more collaboration
between brands like this i think that's a very positive thing i mean aesthetics
are definitely a factor for me when I'm
building a rig and I think they're a factor for a lot of people although it's hard to tell with you but aesthetics are
definitely a thing i mean as much as you
know what we don't owe the big corporations anything we don't have to
put their logos all over our chests and all over our stuff but if you really
like what someone and if that is a company is doing that and you really are
driven to put their their branding on stuff and that makes you feel cool then
I think stuff like this is great um they haven't changed anything really no like
let's be truthful about this they put a logo on the front they changed the color
scheme they put some lighting effects in it but that's about it it's still an H440 but what I like about this is the
H440 is a great case so now it's available in black and
green that's cool yeah I'm down with that anyway so on to stealing things
from booths um one of the ones that was in NZXT's booth that's like an early
mockup they're sending it here oh oh I thought it got stolen i was like I
didn't take this don't look at me no no
they're uh they're going to tear it down after the show and then they're going to send it to us so that we can our next
build guide that we film not the one that's coming out this weekend by the
way there's a build guide coming out this weekend the next one that we film
is going to be uh a green and black themed rig in this case cool that'll be
good we're going to have a pre-production it does look nice and because the green LEDs are very dark and
there's like the kind of blackout tint on the window a little bit it's this like deep kind of moody green which
actually looks pretty good i'm working on sourcing a bunch of like cool green
themed stuff to put in it that that sniper with the I don't know what it's
called but not red line cuz it's green line gigabytes new boards aren't green
what and this is going to be a Devil's Canyon system so I'd rather use a Z97
board if I can yeah bummer so I'm planning to use a
saber-tooth just because at least it's just black yep and then I'm going to get
some green memory we're probably going to paint memory anyway I'm giving away
I'm giving away too much the next build guide in that case is going to be freaking awesome um speaking of Devil's
Canyon I think that leads pretty well into the Pentium
KG3258 cryptically named um but the
results are looking pretty impressive this was originally posted by the
magical maniac on the Linus Tech Tips forum original article here is from
BitTech and this processor looks like
the spiritual successor to the Pentium D85 which basically means we are looking
at some pretty kick-ass stuff going on here the D85 was a dual core processor
it consumed a bunch of power whereas this one won't um it was very very low
clocked out of the box which this one is but what kicked butt about the Pendium
V85 was it overclocked like nuts that
thing was cheap and it was a fantastic
value and at the time that was Intel's response to a very competitive AMD where
Intel was basically like hm okay we have
to do something because our chips are
just not worth that much right now so
they came up with the Pennium G85 they removed some features like it didn't
have all the same stuff that something like a 930 well what did they call them
yeah I think it was a 930 or something like that anyway it didn't have all the same features but it overclocked like a
bat out of hell and it was a chip of choice for gamers this looks like it's
going to be pretty much the same thing so we've seen people reporting
overclocks from 3.2 to 4.5 GHz like I
said before it is only a dual core but in games that are not dependent on heavy
uh on on heavily threaded processors with you know hyperthreading and four or
six or eight cores this thing is going to absolutely kick butt so they're
showing what kind of performance increases you can see uh with it it
shows what kind of performance it has i'm seeing some reports although it's
not in this particular article that we could be looking at similar to 4770K
performance with this chip especially in games where we're not bound by how many
processing cores that we have so looks pretty good pretty good pretty
good that is actually really interesting but I've had people And it does have hyperthreading by the way two cores two
threads so just like a Core i3 but unlocked and overclockable yeah
yeah okay
what else we got there's like everything this week uh should we talk about GTA 5
and that other game sure sure that shall remain nameless let's do GTA 5 first all
right so this was originally posted on the Linus Tech Tips forum by a skew
thank you for that you're awesome yay shout outs for all the people who post
news on the Linus Tech Tips forum you guys are
awesome anyway um original article was
from eurogamer.net gta 5 is coming to
the PC PS4 and Xbox One and at least two of those three I think we kind of saw
coming but yeah
uh yeah you're going to be able to transfer your online saves which will be interesting but I haven't heard anything
on campaign transfer uh this is actually kind of the reason why I quit playing
back when I had a roommate we had it for Xbox 360 and uh I stopped like pretty
early in because I was like "This is an awesome game." But I'm gonna wait
because I hope it'll come to PC eventually i'm surprised it took them a
year i hope that's because they're optimizing it because on launch GTA 4
was like completely poo that's basically
all I have to say about it it performed terribly um but they've again they've
taken a year and I think the platform architecture is going to be a lot more similar than last time so hopefully that
helps them as well um apparently there will be existing
like the the existing add-on content for GTA V will be kind of bundled in it
there's going to be upgraded AI for the PC version even compared to Xbox One and
PS4 which will be really cool they're going to have improved things like draw
distances textures denser traffic wildlife uh upgraded weather upgraded
damage effects and tons of other crap which is absolutely fantastic i hope it
is extremely moddable they're going to have a movie maker but mods are
something I am pretty interested in because you saw like Icy
Enhance if he comes back and does GTA 5
like please it's amazing you did an
incredibly good job with GTA 4 but we need you again sir or Madame but I'm
assuming sir um yeah that would be that
would be great i don't really know what else to say that would be great that
would be great if you could just come back and do all that work that would be great
yeah because like you can you can look at GTA 4 screenshots from that guy that
look better than like any game that's released now which is ridiculous but
yeah that would be great and then there's the Dead Rising 3 super cool
announcement that turned out to be not super cool at all okay so hold on so
let's start with the good things about this so number one is that consumers and
I encourage people to do this all the time if you're unhappy about something
if you're all buttth hurt don't give people your money if you don't like what
people are doing don't give them your money so I don't know why Dead Rising 3
is coming to PC um it wasn't supposed to
it might have something yeah well I know it wasn't supposed to do we have the
link to It's not coming to PC and then the link way down way down yeah hold on
f Dead Rising no no that's control
bookmark stop it control bookmark
screw you hippie okay so uh
find it yeah it's not there whatever anyway so the original the original
story was I mean with GTA 5 the rumors have kind of been out there for a long
time um and they've never officially denied it they've never said "No it's
not coming to PC." With Dead Rising 3 it was not supposed to come to PC so
whether it's because Xbox One isn't selling that well um which would be you
know a definite sort of good job guys for not buying things that you're not
happy with uh so whether it's that or whether it's something else whether it's
you know um you know Microsoft kind of going hey well we want more Xbox One
content on PC because we really are committed to that um although I really
doubt it's the second one it's a great thing to see more exclusive uh console
franchises coming to the PC but then they went and they just wrecked it uh
one thing before we get into how they wrecked it there's a quote saying definitely not a timed exclusive it's an
Xbox One game we see a lot of this online it's not coming to PS4 or PC yeah
that was like months ago lol
well uh but yeah so they've they've they've frame capped it to 30 FPS and
they have a warning on it so that if you can take that cap off which is nice i I
guess I don't think you've put enough emphasis on it they frame capped it at
30 FPS on the PC
yeah and like I said you can take it off but there's a giant warning saying like
"We're not responsible for what happens if you do this." and they fully expect the game's just going to completely
break if you do that so the physics is act it actually works based on the frame
rate so it's what what Need for Speed game I don't remember which one but I
was just going to say you could double how fast your car was going by making
your FPS go from 30 to 60 and like we're going to have these problems with Dead
Rising and that's super stupid how lazy is that incredibly lazy there's there's
a quote in the Oculus video where I have an interview with Palmer where I'm
talking to him about 30 FPS versus other higher frame rates because for VR you're
going to need way higher frame rates than 30 FPS um where he says 30 FPS
isn't a design choice it's a failure
yay like yeah no but just how lazy is it
to tie your in-game physics to I know a dev on the team frame rate which is like
oh
god I'm sorry but it's terrible
um I don't Yeah that's really
lazy like I get it but it's lazy i mean
we're talking we're talking stuff that we solved like you know back in the 90s
like problems that on the PC we were
like "Oh yeah in Goose when I press the
turbo button on my like 386 it goes too
fast oh I guess we better address this." Yeah like we This was This was a problem
for a little while with older games where they had no ability to really
foresee this well they could but didn't really think about it and then it went
away for a long time and now it's back it's like why are you back should not be
a thing why are you back shouldn't be a thing at all i hope we see more ports i
hope we see ports that come over to the PC correctly i hope uh Dante or whatever
his or however you pronounce his name fixes this because that would be
fantastic there's so many things in the announcements of like stuff coming to PC
where I'm like I hope this one super well-known modder guy comes back and
fixes everything for
us i really hope so ah that would be
fantastic i mean I the thing I like
about this generation of PCs is that the way that they're built is so much more
similar did I say PCs cuz I meant consoles sorry consoles is that the way
that they're built is so much more similar to a PC that porting should be
easier and uh well mostly that porting
should be easier and but there are a lot
of issues with it too and I think that that's something
that the console makers are very well aware of so the original post poster for
this on the forum was Joners and the original article is from Techraar but
that is the the headline here is the next generation of consoles could come
much sooner than expected so and this is from AMD so remember these are the guys
that are making the CPU and the GPU in both the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One
and the Wii U i said both because I forgot there are three i'm sorry
Nintendo you're still cool really you Well Nintendo we just said you won E3
i'm sorry they don't really get dropped under the next console thing because
they came out way before that 30% less improved 30% less the next gen except
their games are coming out 1080p 60 FPS i know right so like owned and you know
what correct i I think getting wrapped
up in in having to deliver okay this
this is kind of funny because we did a fastest possible on um what was it
refresh rates nope not that one frame uh on
um resolution while you were gone so we did a fastest possible on resolution and
I was getting sample footage of Far Cry 3 running at 720p maximum like
everything on ultra and 1080p with everything on minimum to go okay here's
an extreme example of how level of
detail versus resolution affects how a
game looks and in between switching from
720p uh right 720p maximum to 1080p not I
increased the resolution first and then I turned all the details off and I was
like you know if I pixel peep I can tell
but if I'm not looking that close like I just got a lot of performance and
it really doesn't look that different
so I'm kind of sitting here going like if you if you tailor your art style
correctly there isn't really a good reason why you can't turn off some of
the goofy effects and get a better frame rate and deliver what is in my mind a
much more playable experience i mean playing something like Mario Kart at
30fps 900p like the first thing I would tell
Nintendo is like come on man how are we supposed to play like that and yet
competitive gamers accept this on other consoles anyway this is it's actually to
throw back again to the Nintendo video that just came out 9 minutes ago in part
of that I bring up about how like Wii U is really not the most powerful platform
no it's really not but they know that and they design the games and tailor the
games for that and the art style of the games and everything still looks great
like have you have you seen the Zelda stuff no I haven't oh my god it looks
really good but then it's because it's their style yeah it's like the whole
Blizzard thing yeah Warcraft 3 is a very
visually pleasing game i mean it's got polygons that have like you know six
sides it's like this is a sword don't look too close
but it looks good because it's a style and they're pulling off a specific style
and it works really well but it Yes and I'm okay with that um and and with that
said I do I do like that you know we're
pushing the envelope graphics wise definitely but I'm I'm more okay with
that on the PC end where where we can actually have the performance to do it
anyway we're actually good i wonder what the backstory here is but AMD is hinting
that the console developers are even further along than Wii the end users
might expect um Nintendo has apparently already clearly confirmed that they have
a clear idea they did this a few months ago of what the Wii U successor will
look like and I gotta wonder like did AMD tell these guys yo dog you know it's
maybe another 20 30 bucks in bomb cost
but you really need to put a better chip in these things you need to you need
better graphics hardware in these things please let us build something better for
you like I wonder if they're just kind of sitting there laughing going "Okay
well I guess we
um but it really does feel like they just screwed it up graphics hardware
wise." And like I said we've got a really interesting video coming probably in a couple of weeks u where we're going
to take a look at how much more power it really takes to go from one resolution
to another resolution and deliver the same graphical fidelity yeah or from uh
certain frame rate to another frame rate yeah so so stay tuned for that that's
actually going to be pretty cool um what
else we got should we get into one of our like rapid fire stuff uh sure yeah
this is kind of cool okay so this is and it was originally posted on the forum
by D forum nope not a forum not a forum
thread i think I saw it on the forum actually but whatever um this
370in TV costs 1.6 million
US1 million pounds um it's
actually it's the Titan Zeus and you can
see you can see the in the picture here
like these are trees you know
uh there's there's no word on the actual image quality it's a 4K TV um so 370 in
works out to about 8 m wide by 5 m tall
and there's only been one sold to a private owner who wants to remain
anonymous that we know of so far although some people have seen it at uh
at the the at a at film festivals or and
apparently they will also be showing oh they'll be showing World Cup matches on
it so they are you can find them in
certain places but other than that this just looks like uh a because we can type
of thing at at even at 4K what is the
PPI of this thing i know at 8 m x 5 m
okay just for you personally let's say they cost the same let's say both
solutions are $1,000 okay would you want a TV or a projector
bearing in mind a projector is not going to perform that well in in a bright
environment probably a projector but it's not in the way like you can mount
it somewhere else that's what I mean like cuz like this thing is just I'd be
so worried about it getting destroyed all the time right
moving that anywhere is going to be terrible like they're saying they they've been to different shows and
stuff the first thing that popped in my mind is like how intricate the shipping
process must have been right yeah because holy crap and then it's a
projector you just throw it in a box it's like okay cool at that size I would
probably go for a projector and because I don't know like you can even see there
it's kind of black around the TV you're probably if where are you going to put
this in a house and if it's outside you're it's probably going to be at night 8 mters by 5 meters i'm just
trying to think where would you put this in a house like that's Although if you're buying a million dollar TV maybe
you can put this in a house right yeah
that's that's really big i mean 8 m that's like 25 ft
i I guess you could like you would have to build a room for it yeah but then
again at a million dollars you could even like a baller house where there's
like you know a basketball court we're talking like you're converting your
basketball court
it's kind of a big deal actually but then at a million dollars you're kind of
probably a big deal so I don't know yeah I Or the son of a big deal either way uh
oh Ghost is Ghost says it's 11.91 pixels
per inch which is sort of terrible
that's really not good i mean you're going to have to sit like like drive in
theater distance away from the So that that makes that room a lot more
difficult to set up i mean at a certain point and I I I think that this point
really is 55 in at a certain point does
a bigger TV even make any sense or are you better off just sitting closer to a
smaller TV you have to you have to wonder about room design like in in some
houses it's going to be pretty far throw distance what's what's the proper throw
distance for 55 in TV i can't remember
uh is this retina.com has sort of a measurement of of what pixel densities
will look like what will look like retina from certain distances but 55 is
pretty big for a reasonable size room whereas I think you could probably go
you could push 60 70 for something like more like a home theater like media room
but even then like you'd probably want to go projector because you're going to build a proper media room at that point
anyway and then you can throw like a nice 100 inch or whatever else and you
can do it on the cheap you can do it for a few And if you're building a media
room you can probably control the lighting yes so it's probably fine and I
would spend I would spend my million dollars on like the most badass seating
instead like with like poop holes built into each seat so you never have to move
and like Well no okay look so the way it would work is you'd have a constant
you'd have a constant suction from somewhere outside of the room so that
the smell of the poo would never actually reach the other people and then
what you could do is you could turn the suction off so that your butt doesn't get cold the entire time that you're
sitting there you have heated seats genius right the best idea ever no
but So was that like a you're a loser
did you have you seen the Rockat video that I released i haven't watched it yet
i'm familiar with the keyboard though yeah it is actually pretty interesting and I I've seen quite because my the mo
the main reason why I want to see that video is so many people ask about wireless keyboards and as it's not
technically just a wireless keyboard sorry someone just posted in Twitch chat
he put thought into this no that was off
the top of my head thank you though sorry go ahead
wow johnny says "Why are we watching this?"
Little do we know go back to Linus' house is this like in a dark room
there's this blue schematic up on the wall
i have like all these whiteboards yeah yeah yeah what if this would work we
could apply suction in exactly this way if we if we wire the pipes together we
can just have one big vacuum that's terrible sorry tell me about the rocket
thing it's wireless it's mechanical it's It's pretty cool my My biggest worry was
that like it it has a built-in mouse pad and built-in wrist rest and those are
just going to get insta destroyed yes um but it's supposed to be modular you're
supposed to be put be able to replace them i hope that it's not like this
crazy proprietary insanely expensive solution in terms of modularity yeah it
probably is probably is um but yeah so I mean it looks pretty cool it's like it's
like a desk keyboard mouse pad thing that's designed to bring gaming to the
couch better than most other desk keyboard mouse pad things that I've seen before other than potentially the couch
master but then that's like a The couch master's bulky yeah um the couch master
is multiple pieces so it's really not that elegant it's It's a very different
solution though from this one yeah so it's good in certain situations but it's
giant so I don't know it's up to you all right h Oh I was I was just thinking I
was like "Oh we should we should game tonight for after party." But the uh the
wife and kid my my wife gets off early so and then I didn't see the baby
yesterday so I guess speaking of the baby I got to feed him somehow so here
come our sponsors oh that's the wrong thing sorry i didn't mean to do that
okay so first up that's that's packs what am I What am
I doing oh like yay
we got there all right I'm let I'm going to let you thank the E3 sponsors thank
you to HyperX they brought us down to their whole HyperX offices and we got to
do an office tour and that was actually that was Did you Did you see that one part yeah I don't watch your videos uh
there was they have a 5v5 gaming land room set up okay I saw that part of it
ridiculous yeah that man those chairs man oh my Oh and they're they're really
really comfortable chairs i got to sit in one for a little while um that was
really cool uh right off camera in the gaming land room they have a constantly
stocked Monster fridge full of Monster Energy drinks hold on i have a
correction by the way back to that Pentium K anniversary edition it is two
cores two threads no hyperthreading sorry okay go ahead okay just saw that
um yeah that was pretty cool that helped me because I hadn't slept when I was
filming those Kingston videos all three of the Kingston videos i changed shirts
so it looked like different days but it was all all within the same little bit
of but it was in a range of like 30 to 34 hours that I'd been awake for filming
those videos so we walk into the land room and there's a monster fridge and
I'm like you know what's hilarious is I actually
got a message from Kingston that specifically said uh yeah it's amazing
how your team was great they were super awesome they were really professional
especially considering how little sleep they had
so thanks to Kingston for sending us down there also huge thanks to Corsair
and NCIX for sending us down there Corsair specifically wants us to
highlight the heck out of their new RGB keyboards which of course they don't
have to tell us to do no we've done that a lot cuz we we we heart we heart the
RGB keyboards all the way and then NCIX asked us to specifically call out what a
great value we think that buying a gaming rig from NCIX is and I think we
can both get on board that because compared to 50ucksucks compared to
buying a boutique rig or compared to building it yourself there's a
compelling value here because you get all the parts for the same price as it would cost to buy them off the shelf or
online from some other retailer they do price match so you literally can get
them for the same price as another retailer then they assemble it for you
for 50 bucks and that 50 bucks includes a one-year return to depot warranty that
includes troubleshooting and North American tech
support for your system so yeah yeah i
personally know people that are actually really good at building computers that are just way too lazy and have paid the
50 bucks yep and they straight up and they do a pretty good job you know it's
not it's not like old school voodoo PC
origami cabling it it isn't and they're not individually sle every wire that's
not what you're getting what you're getting is a professionally installed computer that is 50 bucks so like it's
Yeah it's actually not that bad when when I was first told I used to build
computers for people for like I think it was like 75 and I heard NX was doing it
for 50 and I was like "Oh I I really hope this doesn't get
out." All right so our next sponsor call
out and this one is a huge deal this time next week I will be getting ready
to get on a plane and go climb the uh
second highest mountain in the uh in the lower 48 wait are we having a win show
uh yeah there will be a land show he said this time next week I'll be getting ready a win show well readyish are we
streaming oh just calm down anyway there's there's W show next week so
we're going to be uh we're going to be preparing to hike Mount Elbert with a
huge group uh hopefully huge people just
they got to confirm and get their tickets booked but Austin Evans has his
ticket booked he's coming logan from Tech Syndicate is co-hosting the event
with us so this is a 100% collaborative project between Linus Tech Tips and Tech
Syndicate so they're going to have Kane there from their team they're going to
have How many times should we ask Kane about his glasses on camera zero
all right so the tech syndicate team's going to be there paul and Kyle from Newegg might be there and then TLD today
and tech of tomorrow so Jonathan and Elrich are like pretty much 100% going
to be there so it's going to be an all-star cast of guys going up and
having a land at the top of the mountain peak it's going to be freaking awesome
and ASUS is making this possible with their I don't want to say too much about
it because I don't know how much information is out there but with a really cool gaming notebook some people
know PE uh I'm not Yeah let's just leave
it for now because I'm I'm not 100% sure so really cool gaming notebook Intel is
in on the action as well so these will be Core i7 powered gaming notebooks and
finally Corsair is making us hike to the top of a mountain carrying RGB keyboards
we're very thankful to Corsair for being involved in making this event possible
but I really wish I didn't have to carry a mechanical keyboard with an aluminum
back plate up a mountain but it's going to be awesome guys there's going to be
some great content coming out of this some collabs some vlogs so be excited
for that and a huge thanks to those guys someone in the chat just said "Hey
guys." Hey guys welcome to the world's highest land party
when I I This is the first time I would have like formally met Lou or Austin oh
yeah e3 yeah and I was like semi-
disappointed that right when I walked a walked up Austin wasn't like "Hey guys."
I was really hoping that was going to happen oh I love trolling him about that
it's so fun so fun the the the video that he posted on his channel from CES
with him uh Dimmitri Dmitri from Hardware Connects I think it was me and
MKBHD um he's he like wanted everyone to
introduce themselves and I'm like "Hey guys it's me Lionus from Lionus Tech
Tips." And Austin's just like "No."
That's great oh he's a good guy i'm really looking forward to this trip it's
gonna be a lot of fun that was awesome did you Did you know that we posted a
video on L's channel no nick myself Brandon Austin were all in a video on
L's channel oh that's cool it's uh we got to check out the possibly a
prototype like they're using it for case manufacturing iPhone 6 oo yeah and he
like he dropped it on the table while already filming and we're all just like
what what is this and he like told us what it was on film and then we have all
first impressions and everything lou is such a badass i how how does he get this
stuff he is a badass that's all there is to say about it that's all there is to
say he's a badass uh I really I really
wanted him to come to the Highlander event and he really wanted to come but
it just didn't work out this time but uh you know guys don't be surprised to see
some kind of collaborative effort between Linus Tech Tips and Unbox
Therapy sometime sometime to to kind of make up for that to each other because
we we owe each other to to hang out i I and I think Lou was pretty disappointed
when he messaged me he was like "Hey do you want to get together?" Blah blah blah you guys are at E3 i'm like "Yeah
I'm not actually there my guys are there but I'm not." He's just
like "Okay
okay." And then we ended up going to a
dinner and a lunch with him so Brandon
Nick and I have met Lou more times than you have i think I have
had I I the I don't know if I've had
more meals with him than you actually cuz I bailed on him at CES cuz I had to
go to like AMD's party and they were
they like paid our way for that two days they covered our hotel and everything
and if I didn't show up at that party I was going to be like a really bad person
and I bailed on I bailed on Lou and Lamar Wilson and uh who else was there
for that i got to meet Lamar Wilson as well yeah
i suck i'm a bad person speaking of things that suck this product really
doesn't make a lot of sense to me i wouldn't say it sucks i think it's a
it's a cool idea the original articles on Hexus and this is Philips's um
virtually seamless twoin- one monitor so they showed this off at Comp Computex
and what they've basically done is they've put two ultra thin bezel 19in
display panels on a single stand and
they allow them to be rotated up to 22 1/2° this won um a Computex Gold Award
for outstanding innovation which was a little bit confusing to me because
Samsung had their MDX series which allowed you to have three or six panels
off of a single stand um quite a while back and I'm pretty sure that you know
monitor stands have been doing this for a while but the innovation here is the
virtual seamlessness between the monitors the one thing that I really
question about it and sort of why I segueed into this with speaking of sucks
is the one thing I question here is what is the value here compared to a 21 by9
monitor which has are these individually able to
be rotated yes the if if you can flip one completely over I might understand
it for office situations flip it over no not like that like you can you can move
them a bit oh not that yeah so compared to just a completely flat monitor I
guess it's nice to have them angled in at you a little bit but for this product
to be a success I would have to see it be very inexpensive i would have to see
it be targeted at business users who are
typically buying you know whatever uh that Acer one that we really like with
the slim bezel who are typically buying something like that and putting them next to each other if you're going to
save me a few millimeters of bezel space um I don't expect to pay a massive
premium for it so that's my sort of take on that
i' I've seen cuz when I first saw this which was very not that long ago I
assumed that you could take one of them and flip it over because I've seen that be pretty interesting in office
situations because if someone's sitting on the other side of the desk right and you want to show them put me on that
monitor flip it over it'll auto correct when it gets to the other side and they can see it and that's actually kind of
cool but then yeah I guess not all right so moving on to Daron's Magv keyboard
you want to cover this you're the keyboard dork um I'm just ah see but I'm
not really that interested i know I cover things I'm not interested in all
the time i don't think this is a good idea every time I talk well then say
it's not a good idea that's what this show is idea because Okay so it's the
it's the weekly analysis and news show
analyze can't spell analyze without anal
okay so it's blah blah blah blah blah you can you can this will hopefully be
able to get uh reduction in thickness in notebooks because you don't need as much
space for the keys yeah for like the plastic junk that goes in there yeah
yeah yeah and they're using magnetic levitation to keep the keys in a raised
position which already sounds potentially not good um it's I I don't
That's about it i'm worried about the magnetic levitation thing because you can throw off magnets with uh minor
impacts and it's in a laptop that's true so if
it bumps around too much and stuff like a lot of people are throwing SSDs in laptops now and then not treating them
as carefully as they did when they used to have hard drives in them right because a big problem with tossing your
notebook around used to be the hard drive if you throw magnets in there
impacts could be an issue um another thing is the depth is not very high
which is the whole point they're trying to slim it down more but the whole point
is that that's going to suck because if you've ever tried typing on a completely
flat surface that's terrible speaking of surface I see this being very applicable
for something like Microsoft Surface yeah I could see that something like a
type cover could benefit from this where thinness is the priority not um you know
the the tactile feedback yeah um but it looks like initial impressions of this
are that the travel distance isn't long enough and then I don't really see there
being any benefit on something like a going over just a straight up touch like
a more normal size notebook like that this is this is fairly large where you
have room for a larger design or this one this this is Yeah yeah yeah yeah
there you go um I don't know it's just it's it's
going to be a bad typing experience and if you just went for like a capacitive
touch which is going to feel worse but if if thickness is the priority I've t
you did you ever type on the touch cover from the original it was terrible but it
was really thin and I mean yeah
like this i don't think this is going to be a great experience is it going to be enough to be because it's probably going
to be thicker than a capacitive type oh yeah for sure it'll be thicker than that
so So you're going thicker you're sacrificing that thinness for a slightly
better experience which is still not a good experience well you haven't tried
it yet yeah but I I I can I'm making
assumptions to be 100% honest but I don't think it's going to be a very good
typing experience i don't know i'm It's It's interesting because it's new
technology although I don't I don't really think it's going to be a huge
thing personally all right so let's move on to something that I'm extremely buttthurt about this isn't the kind of
thing stupid this isn't the kind of thing that we normally cover on this
show like oh Google changed one feature or Apple added one thing to their You
know what this is so ridiculous google
is doing away with the ability to add a
calendar invitation to an email i use this every single day we use this a lot
it is so handy so in the old
days and like okay I'll any in the old
days all you had to do was within an email click add calendar invitation it
pops up a little box and anyone else who gets that email can say yes no maybe and
it automatically adds that event to your own calendar so that you don't have to
go over to your calendar set it up find
a sharable link to it go back to your email and send it to someone and the
reason they're doing away with it is because spammers are using it to send
calendar invitations to
people okay why do we care so So what
we're gonna we're gonna cancel email because spammers are using it to send
unwanted messages to you don't have to accept the invitation
super dumb super not impressed we actually do use this a lot and the thing
is it's not just internally we do use a lot internally but I'll get messages
from people that we're working with with calendar invites this is going to get
super annoying like why take it out it's
It's like they don't want me to use Gmail google's been doing a lot of weird
crap lately so mad and it's one of those things where it's like you know what
we're business users like if you're
going to take it away fine take it away from the free accounts or something and
then even though if if we're talking paid accounts then I don't think you're
going to have an issue with people abusing it because you there's not going to be that many to filter through and
find out who's abusing it right whereas business users need this kind of
thing anything that saves a little bit of time is enough to convince me to
change platforms and like taking integration away rather
than building it up is infuriating so
I'm mad i'm making sure you guys all know that I'm mad and I guess that's all
I really have to say about it yeah i don't know there's there's really not
that much else to say about it happy topic swiftkey yeah Swift Key is free
now dog that's awesome i posted this on Facebook and it was basically like Swift
Key is free go get it please uh this was posted originally on the forum by Top
War Gamer thank you very much for posting that um basically don't feel bad
if you paid though you get 10 free skins
so you get like a 10 pack of cool looking skins for your keyboard so I
went and cashed that in right away in fact you know it's funny cuz normally I
don't really give a crap about skins or
free perks or whatever for software that I have but Swift Key I was like I was on
that yeah and everyone at NCIX today because we've all got Swift Key I was
like "Did you get your packs?" They're like "Yeah
that's pretty cool that's pretty cool." And like when I first heard about this I
didn't know about the the theme packs and all that kind of stuff and I was like "Damn I bought that not that long
ago." And I was semi- disappointed and then I talked to this guy and he's like
"Free theme packs?" And I'm like "Awesome they handled it really well."
And I mean you know what even if I did pay for it and and now it's free I still
don't feel bad about it i got my money i like Swift Key i I it tells me it tells
me how many hundreds of thousands of keystrokes I've saved you know there's
still something I really wish they would address and that's when it auto corrects
something and you don't like it when you backspace it really needs to revert
like please someone at Swift Key feels awkward can you please just go fix that
um that's something that that's the one thing that the Google keyboard does way
better than Swift Key when I got Moto X again I was on Google Keyboard for a
little while and there are a few things like that that I like about it but
overall after using it for like a week or so you're like "Yeah I just need
Swift Key again." Every time Every time I do a phone review like I'm working on
the G3 right now yeah every time I do a phone review I try to use that vendor
stock keyboard for a bit and it's like a fiasco every time i'm just like "No no
no forget it." Can you leak some thoughts i'm interested i actually I
really like the vis it's off right now sorry um the camera's great i really
like the visual style of their uh of their latest skin uh some of the
navigation of their skin definitely needs some work um I I really liked
Sony's skin i really like HTC's i'm um
not a huge fan of Samsung's and so far I
would say this falls on the not a fan of it side of being a fan um but I haven't
spent much time with it and you can turn some things off that's what I noticed with the G2 i've only been switched to
it for like a day and a half oh actually
and there's definitely some cool stuff already like uh HTC copied the whole
double touch to turn the screen on thing yeah that's so nice hardcore copied it
well LG upped the ante this time because now you can do you can do a code so
instead of cuz double double tapping I find I accidentally activate it all the
time whereas now you can you can knock a code into the phone and it'll only
unlock if you do it a specific way i think that's really cool pretty cool i'm
down with that yeah so there's little stuff that I really like so far um but
guys stay tuned for the full review also I've got a I'm going to be working on
the Pad phone soon oh interesting pad phone X so that's that phone tablet
hybrid thing you can pull that out of the box what are your thoughts because
I'm a huge fan of the back buttons but what are your thoughts on the back buttons back buttons i like them so far
it's still very disconcerting cuz I've only been switched to it for a little while yeah yeah but this is the coolest
thing about it check this out i was going to say is is that a North American
blast from the past guys
antennas well is that a North American phone no it's not this is a Korean phone
it's for TV but uh I I got a kick out of it you know it's funny because I don't
understand why they don't just put it on the North American model because sometimes your reception is a little bit
borderline and I can't imagine it would hurt to have an external antenna nope
like I don't know why they're afraid to put it on people don't have to take it
out just have it on there and it's so small and light anyway this is the uh
this is the Padphone Phone X not that impressed with the bulkiness of it so
far um am that impressed with the
seamlessness of turning it into a tablet and it's not powered on right now but
yeah with the seamlessness of turning it into a tablet and with the fact that
it's going to be priced similarly to what would normally just be a standard
phone so stay tuned for that review as well this one between the fact that it
has wireless charging and the fact that it converts to a tablet may win me over
from the 1M8 so we'll see it's not
annoying when you hold it this way to have a phone cuz you can actually use the bottom of the phone thing to like
hold on to the tablet and it's got a solid hardware spec so it it may win me
over we'll see interesting no guarantees on that one um all right oh speaking of
Nintendo this was originally posted on the forum by Rafi and uh it's not
actually related to Nintendo but it's Microsoft trying to take feedback from
their users unfortunately and I'm not going to generalize about Xbox users but
unfortunately um some of the top voted
ideas are just stupid but basically the
site xbox.uservoice.com uservoice.com allows you to go and suggest things to
the Xbox team vote on other people's suggestions and just generally Microsoft
I guess they've just kind of given up they're like "We don't know what to do
so help us help you." And I'm glad
that's the right way to do it good job Microsoft so I just want to give them a
big thumbs up because I think we were beating them up a little bit what are some of the highrated terrible comments
oh this one with like 5,000 thumbs up is
um um oh can we get we want Xbox 360
game backwards compatibility and that's like the top
upvoted suggestion with like 5,000 thumbs up and I'm just kind of sitting
here going like are you are are you stupid like do you really think
Microsoft didn't think of that if that was a possibility like do you think they
didn't think of that we're we're talking emulating a console that is emulating a
console on a completely different architecture that's not you know two or
three generations ago it is it's a
stupid suggestion like the games would have to
be ported straight up and then you could make them available in the arcade or
something and is Microsoft really going to run around and and you know ask every
game developer to port all their games and put them in the market no it's like
yeah I I get that that's what you want but you have to focus on things that are
real i mean backwards compatibility for gaming consoles was never really a thing
it happened what once with the PS2 being backwards
compatible with the PS1 the PS3 had it initially but then it went away can you
play Xbox games on Xbox 360
some it was It was very It was a lot it was It was a scattershot thing though
yeah it was so you go back before it's
not like the SNES could play NES games
until like way later and you got this weird cartridge thing sorry the adapter
cartridge thing so you could get like weird adapter cartridges but even then
not all the games worked like it was like it's never really been a like yes
this is a thing we're 100% on board this you're going to be able to to to play
all your old games on your new consoles you can play Wii games on Wii U as well
yes you can but I'm just saying it's not
something that is all over the place people are saying GameCube games on Wii
i've I didn't know you could do that i don't
know how you do that yeah it's uh the small discs you just load them in the
the same way yeah you just you just aim yep like it happens i'm just saying it's
No I hear you yeah i'm just trying to give examples cuz people are freaking out in the chat it it's something where
it's not if it's not fundamentally built into it or the architecture isn't
somehow similar it's just not going to happen i mean the Wii was a lot more
powerful than the Gamecube which helps a lot the uh something like the Super
Nintendo was so much more powerful than the NES that we're we're talking about
using all that extra power to emulate something or however it needs to be
implemented with the Xbox One versus the Xbox 360 they're not similar enough and
the power difference is not enough i mean even PCs are having trouble
emulating Xbox 360 games that's very
difficult just emulation's weird that's why emulation's weird and the the the
truth of the matter is that even someone like Microsoft has to ultimately emulate
an older console unless they do what you
know Sony did with the early PS3s where they're just putting an emotion chip in
it and we saw how much that cost and how
they bailed on that like what was it months later yeah yeah those early
PlayStation 3s though are worth a lot of money because you can install Linux on
them and you can run them as like servers and stuff and you can emulate
old games and like yeah they're they're actually legitimately valuable people
are like backwards compatibility is just a number and I've got people in the
Twitch chat pointing out that the PC back has excellent backwards
compatibility yes it does it's amazing
whereas consoles it's just like random it's like
try putting a Nest cartridge into a Wii U um another thing uh Microsoft
announcement that I don't know if is in the dock is the Halo Master Chief
Edition did you hear about that at all
halo Master i don't think it's in the dock oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i heard
about that so we're getting a re-released what halos one two three
four three and four the numbered ones with Master Chief in it not the offshoots like ODST or Reach right um
it's it's it's interesting they're doing some cool things with it like the
remastered screenshots actually look really good right they're not changing
the mechanics and Halo 2 multiplayer is coming back which Halo 2 mi is coming
back halo 2 one Halo 1 multiplayer will exist on consoles we have to specify on
consoles because we were playing that like last week on PC um but it will
exist on consoles yay pc backwards compatibility
it actually runs better yeah it really
does and they're not going to like quote unquote fix things so like the pistol in
Halo 1 is still going to be massively overpowered which is great they'll have
an interesting They'll have a few interesting matchmaking modes like one where it's just all random so it'll just
cue you and you'll it'll like put your lobby and be like "Okay you're going to
play Halo 2 on this map." Nice and it'll
just launch that game and it can it can bounce around in between the games really well apparently it's supposed to
have seamless loading between games if you're going through campaign so like if
you finish Halo one it'll just be like you're now on First Mission Halo 2 nice
it just flows right through nice there's some interesting things so just like
when Arrested Development uh relaunched with all the all the episodes at once
and nobody slept it's going to be about like that I guess yeah yeah yeah i think
it would be interesting to play through all the campaigns and stuff back toback but like I don't see this selling Xbox
ones either i do 100% yeah i wouldn't buy an Xbox
One for it personally because if I had all these games I could just go back and
play them and the remastered thing is cool
ah being able to play online you've bought remastered games before yeah but
I haven't bought a console to buy the remastered games you know what I mean i
have definitely bought remastered games i actually do like remastered games i have no I actually really like that they
remastered Halo 1 and 2 i've bought remastered games
the the only thing that I could actually see them selling a console for is like Halo 2 multiplayer because remember how
big of a deal that was when they closed that down yep the guys that were like
refusing to shut down their consoles and people were like shipping them fans and
stuff to keep their consoles running like yeah shutting down the Halo 2
multiplayer servers was not a very cleancut decision so I think people are
going to be stoked that those are back i'd love to see them do this bundle on
the PC if they ask for if they ask for 60 bucks 75 bucks for it on the PC I'll
I'll pay for it i don't care 100% yeah that would be awesome preferably on
Steam that would be great yep no games for Windows Live
woo gets better and better all the time yeah yeah yeah someone Yeah someone just
said "Luke underestimates the nostalgia of Halo 2 multiplayer." Yeah i just had
that realization it'll it'll probably sell a console halo 2 multiplayer was a
really I played Halo 2 multiplayer so much ridiculous so yeah yeah it's a good
point speaking of uh speaking of new gen consoles let's talk old gen consoles for
a second uh I don't even know if this is really news but apparently uh Titanfall
runs at 600p at 46 FPS on the Xbox 360
so someone uh used uh capture device in
order to find out how many frames it was actually rendering so I thought that was
kind of interesting i was I was wondering it would it would be kind of
an interesting setup but it it'd be kind of fun to like benchmark consoles every
once in a while yeah because you can feel them chug you can feel them not run
at 30 or 60 FPS because they make these claims and I'm like well it's not going
to be a constant FPS anyways so when you're claiming this like craptastic
resolution and craptastic FPS is that
like when you're staring at the floor cuz who knows no in theory that's the
lowest dip right but it's there's no way
all right so this was originally posted on the forum by Dazed Cobra 42 and uh
this is something that some people think is no big deal other people think is a
huge deal and that is that Comcast is converting 50,000 home routers in
Houston into public Wi-Fi hotspots so
basically it'll only work if you're using your Comcast
uh wireless router modem combo unit and
whoever's accessing your router will not
be able to use up your data plan or see your home network but the idea is they
want to turn it into citywide Wi-Fi hotspots for their
customers apparently this is already a thing in other
countries and I' I've seen posts in the
thread on our forum where people are pretty positive about the idea and how
it works but one drawback that I can see is that
unless they're somehow managing the connection with
magic to ensure that my ping times in my
game don't get increased because someone is walking by you know u torrenting on
the sidewalk outside of my house if they can find a way that that doesn't happen
and they can't access my network and they can't uh utilize any of my monthly
bandwidth limitation then I guess I don't care i don't think any of those
things are going to happen and you can opt out okay you can opt out a lot of
people aren't going to know this is a thing but most people won't notice
at all so um this is super
dumb because like Yeah okay it's not going to affect your your your bill
but it's going to affect your availability but think about this okay
so as a Shaw customer or Telus customer or whatever you have at your place um
you want to tell us right okay so as a Telus customer if you
could you know let's okay here great example let's say E3 wasn't in um let's
say it wasn't in LA let's say it was in Toronto and or Okay I guess Toronto's a
bad example they don't have to tell us there okay whatever but point is what if E3 was in Vancouver so you're out of
your house you want to upload a video and public Wi-Fi is crap so it was what
i'm sorry it was public Wi-Fi was 100% so let's say public Wi-Fi was crap let's
say you're a Telus customer and all you have to do is walk down the street wait
to find another house that has a Teles customer in it beep beep boop and you've
got a solid internet connection where I can upload videos and destroy their
connection okay i didn't destroy it hold on i said "How would you feel about
being the person who has access to Wi-Fi hotspots everywhere?" I would feel good
and I would destroy that kid's internet who's just trying to play a video game
cuz that's why the public Wi-Fi there was terrible everyone was just trying to
upload stuff the whole time and it was bad i have a screenshot on Twitter of
our like estimated upload time 20,000 minutes from our hotel because the the
internet was just like nope so yeah your
your your your your bill isn't going to be worse the integrity of your data is
probably not going to be harmed the availability of things online is
probably going to have an issue and that's not okay in my opinion so Steph
says "The Comcast thing has been around in Belgium for almost a decade it has a
four user limitation and shaped traffic." Okay well those are things I
didn't know about okay but this is this is in Belgium this is not Comcast
comcast might implement it however they implement it but there's a precedent for
this oh and apparently it's nationwide
currently available for business class customers now it's going to residential so there you go interesting i mean as
long as it doesn't affect it I am pretty happy about it if I'm on one of these
things and it's available to me and I'm ever near someone's house I'm just going
to wreck their connection unless they unless it's unless it's shaped or
throttled so that you can't destroy it it's not going to be that helpful
unless all you need to do is like you know find a But then you should be using
your cell phone if you're just looking up a map or whatever okay well let's say
your cell phone's out of battery but you happen to have your laptop and no USB
cables and no USB ca No uh yes and no USB cables and no battery banks whatever
screw you um let's do a Twitter blitz let's do a
Twitter blitz let's let you guys tell us what you think of this are you okay with
your ISP allowing other people to use your connection as long as and this is I
guess they should use their quabillions of dollars and just set up proper public
Wi-Fi okay this is another thing that really bothers me remember when that story broke about the back doors that
were built into all these routers so if you're saying the integrity thing oh
they're not going to see your network someone's going to figure it out so if if it was
bulletproof then it's fine like if we were if we were talking like like two
separate you know firmware firmwares
running on the on like two separate storage devices on the router like and
they're like sharing two in sharing physical resources but otherwise a
completely different set of software then I'm like yeah okay whatever fine go
for it if we're talking about somehow
this can be exploited I'm I'm sure and there's got to be something in terms of
data sniffing because you're going on the same line i don't know i don't know
enough about that but when you're when you're on a different network because I
have to I don't I'm not sure how they're splitting it which is part of the
problem so Stefan says oops uh Stefan
says um connection is entirely separated from yours uh data plan wise also
bandwidth it's not necessarily like I don't know if they
can necessarily do that not not probably enough right because
like they're shaping it or whatever but is it giving 100% priority to the person
in the house 100% because we we utilize
our data connection here at Lis Media Group a lot so if this happened to our
router and we somehow didn't turn off the option thing if we didn't opt out we
instantly opt out but if we didn't we
would be we would possibly have issues if they had any percentage of the
connection right because we like we're in Canada we don't have that great of
internet and we we really utilize our internet connection that's another thing
if you have like a crazy pipe going to that house maybe it's not as big of a
deal um Alakan is saying that on Tech
Syndicate they were talking about Comcast using your electricity for this
yeah I get it but you're you're H it seems pretty negligible I mean yeah
they are it's not right and it's not it's not it's not right but it's not the
kind of thing that I would probably lodge a complaint with my you know local
representative about
um okay wow i got 36 responses now but
they should just have public router yeah exactly they they should be doing this
infrastructure on their own they shouldn't be utilizing other customers right nothing is bulletproof when it
comes to networking again I don't know how you're going to do it someone's
going to figure out some way wait where'd you where'd you get that up a little bit oh yeah nothing is
bulletproof when it comes to networking that's a very important point uh Sam
says "ISPs need to become less intrusive give us a good service and shut up we
don't get the water company calling us offering better water." You know what
Sam that is a retweet right there that
is the first time we have ever taken something on the WAN Show and it has
been so bang on that we have to tweet it immediately that was really good um they
need to ask and his last name is really close to
fluoride good no I don't care i'm not looking at
it fine that's not that close it's not close at
all i thought it was closer
anyways
you should test your XPS12 for image burn-in issue uh the image burn-in issue
is terrible on my XPS12 like like super
bad like I can see my desktop and I am in I am in metro mode so yes I'm aware
of the issue it's terrible it doesn't
really affect me using the computer and I still do like it comcast may be able
to increase your bandwidth if you're sharing a connection but I'm against this security breach imminent security
breach imminent no it's mine if you're giving me a
monthly discount to offer up my connection to others now we're talking
that's a good point Nathaniel and I could see but they're going to be like you get 50 cents or nothing or or lower
yeah nothing um they have their own hotspot infrastructure yep which is what
they should be doing tom asks "How's your experience with the Pebble Steel going?" Really like the ID it is It is
much nicer looking in my opinion than the old Pebble that I had you did order
one in bright orange yeah but it was
more about the bulk and the and the plastickiness this has a glass front
panel which makes a big difference to readability especially now that I've scratched the heck out of a plastic one
um and I think it just looks way more professional way more stylish i I'm very
pleased so far using the hotspot to download torrent and not using my
monthly cap yay you know what i got to wonder because Shaw has Shaw has public
hotspots and I wonder if it counts towards your
cap because you have to log into them and dodging uh touring stuff if you
pirateed on the public network using a Wi-Fi connection but if they are if they
ask you to log in with your customer ID the way that Shaw does then it'll Good
call that's even more trackable yeah yeah there's there isn't even any
plausible deniability like "Oh I didn't have my Wi-Fi network secured it with
someone outside my house um if anyone is using my internet I'll go completely mad
don't want people making me No no you don't pay for the other people to use your internet it doesn't work that way
it doesn't count towards your bandwidth limit i've been here for years in the
UK allow you to opt in oh so you have to
opt in to use other people's hotspots
okay that's kind of all right if it starts but you were talking you can opt
out this is a you would have to opt in like I like this system that's cool yeah
I like that swallox is not okay
hell no especially not considering Comcast's reputation yeah it's kind of a
That's like Yeah you have to assume anything coming out of there is going to
be terrible to find why it's terrible
it's usually not that hard though let's play the find why it's terrible game
featuring Comcast and EA
ea hasn't done anything that evil lately have they they probably I haven't been
paying a ton of attention there's probably been some all right well I
think that's pretty much it for the WAN Show guys oh right okay i'll let you
talk about Oculus again for a second this was originally posted on the forum by Top War Gamer and Facebook boss Mark
Zuckerberg sees Oculus as a chance to get the device into as many hands as
possible price be damned and he says uh
oh uh there's there's that quote saying the Oculus Rift will sell at the lowest
cost possible there's also Palmer saying that it will sell at cost what Palmer
actually meant by selling at cost was including things like bomb cost shipping
distribution all that stuff so like they're not looking to gain money off of
sales of individual Oculus they just don't want to lose they're not losing
money though mark Zuckerberg doesn't seem to give any cares no yeah lose all
the money put Oculuses in the hands of everyone um there's been a ton of stuff
coming out there was the interview that I had um where he was talking about how
um tons of people are working on input
stuff that's even not announced right and then there was another interview
where he actually like semi admitted to
Oculus working on other hardware that isn't the Rift interesting they're
working on their own input solutions they're working on all that kind of stuff they're also working on firstparty
games so developing their own games under Oculus and with recent hires like
one of the co-founders of Naughty Dog some people are expecting some like
pretty legit stuff so interesting things
coming out of there i would highly recommend to shill for myself and tell
everyone to go watch the Oculus video where I talked to Palmer about how 30
FPS gaming is pathetic yeah how cool was that for you that was really
cool that was awesome um highlight of
the trip yeah probably before that the highlight of the trip was control VR
which no one is watching um but then but then I got to talk to Palmer which was
actually really really cool speaking of things um people should people should
watch the show's the show's kind of over at this point oh yeah yeah yeah um ASUS
North America so we just had uh we had a
video that we created for ASUS that they just launched on their channel so you
guys should definitely go check it out oh put it all the sound hold on where is
it here we go here we go here we go i'm posting it in the Twitch chat right now
a couple people are saying that they watched it thanks guys i appreciate it
it's getting less views than our like totally unknown game indie content which
is like oh no that's not the one that Oh people are saying they watched your video okay the one that I'm posting is
um me and Luke having a night battle over the opportunity to uh to to like
win a notebook so it's like it's kind of it's kind of funny which is funny
because we both ended up with them yeah I know i never realized that part of the
story line that's awesome what is this all right
thanks for watching guys you know okay oh okay we should we should like end the
stream do do our intro thing end the stream and then start up an afterparty
afterwards because that's what we did last time and I know they probably didn't but I heard Taran plotting we
don't have any water this week
we need to We have moldy Twinkies oh my god
okay we definitely have moldy Twinkies Twinkies and Minecraft weapons
this could legitimately hurt someone yeah okay we're prepared you're more
prepared than me this could like actually damage them all right guys
thanks for watching we'll see you again next week byebye