The WAN Show - Intel No Longer Focusing on PCs...?? - Jan 22, 2016

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0:01 all right guys welcome to the W show
0:05 it's going to be a great show for you guys today um we are mostly set up uh
0:10 except there are definitely at least two things that I forgot I didn't log into
0:15 twitch uh to monitor twitch chat and I only have one computer to do that on so
0:22 I'm going to be like trying to are you browsing the dock on that computer that
0:26 yeah yeah I'm also using this for the dock there's like the mount for our pop
0:30 filter is completely in the way of the keyboard and the touchpad but it's okay
0:34 I can work around that we have a very special special W show for you guys
0:37 today we've got a lot of great topics as usual um what are what are our topics
0:42 well first Palmer lucky founder of oculus getting sued for Stuff talk about
0:47 that more later and then Intel is rebuilding itself rebuilding the pillars
0:51 of its foundation shut upch PC is not one of them yeah uh there's some other
0:56 good stuff California wants to ban encrypted smartphon and the US military
1:01 apparently wants to build cyborgs by combining Hans with computers which the
1:08 last time I checked is literally the definition of building a cyborg pretty
1:11 much yes how how that actually works so uh we're going to roll the intro while I
1:16 figure out a couple of things quietly behind the scenes here and uh
1:24 booah good job peanuts gallery
1:30 what is
1:42 that all right we have some sponsors including book
1:48 Linda what comic Bento comic Bento what is
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1:57 about that later on yes um sorry I have
2:03 freshly freshly last passed the crap let
2:06 put some twitch up in it out of a lot of my accounts not to mention all the two
2:11 Factor authentication so it is it is very slow and very difficult for me to
2:16 get into any of my accounts right now and I'm not streaming from the usual
2:19 computer so all of this is making everything take much longer than I'd
2:23 like do you want to jump into our first topic here uh do you want the first
2:26 topic to be the first one on the thing I don't care well the first topic is the
2:30 US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers which we
2:34 made a joke about a little bit early on if you're connecting now the joke was
2:39 that's literally the definition of building a cyborg so like we get it bro
2:43 anyways I haven't read this one at all but unsurprisingly it's DARPA it's DARPA
2:47 they do crazy stuff if you look in like if you look at old military movies and
2:51 they're like whoa we're trying this like crazy revolutionary thing we're going to
2:55 do some crazy bull crap which probably won't work it was probably DARPA it's I
2:59 don't know they're the ones that have that like crazy robotic dog thing that
3:04 carries stuff around that people kick every single time it's in videos so that
3:07 they can like it corrects itself have you seen that it is really cool it is
3:11 cool I'm not saying it's not cool I mean it's just I think that's DARPA as well
3:14 isn't it it's it's pretty it's like pretty the bomb yeah like it's pretty
3:18 sweet cuz you can like people walk up to it and drop kick it really hard and it
3:22 corrects itself even on ice and then is able to keep walking and it can carry a
3:26 very large amount of weight I don't remember what it's called it's called something
3:30 but anyways yeah so pretty much uh they
3:33 want to develop high bandwidth implantable neural interfaces to open
3:38 the channel between the human brain and modern Electronics obviously I can think
3:43 of a lot of really beneficial uses for
3:47 this that are not necessarily blowing up other dudes um but I mean with that like
3:54 I'm not gonna I'm not going to rag on the US military too hard either right
3:57 now because frankly a lot of stuff that is developed by the US military for US
4:02 military purposes does eventually does
4:05 eventually end up getting used for something that's a little bit nicer um
4:09 or a form of it will yeah um it's not a new research topic by any stretch of the
4:14 imagination but most of the projects have been hampered by slow uh limited
4:19 control so nesd manager for DARPA says
4:22 today's brain computer interface systems are like two supercomputers trying to
4:26 talk to each other using an old 300 bod modem
4:30 which is actually kind of kind of a clever way of clever way of putting that
4:35 I mean computers are fast and the human brain is amazing but right now the
4:40 interfaces we have between them I mean the best we can do at the moment is a
4:43 keyboard and mouse which if you want to be if you wanted to break that down into
4:47 like data rate really really really
4:51 really really slow like painfully painfully slow so the aim then is to
4:54 connect individual neurons and establish much finer control with less noise so
4:59 that you can speed up the communication this will require breakthroughs in the
5:03 following Neuroscience synthetic biology
5:06 low power Electronics photonics medical
5:09 device engineering and packaging and all that is according to the agency no big
5:14 deal yeah so whatever so it's like I might as well say that I'm planning to
5:18 build a flying fish we can figure it out by Friday which will require
5:21 advancements in aerodynamics it is Friday you know oxy fish uh interface
5:28 material St Tois
5:31 and that's a word I wish them luck
5:35 basically it's DARPA so if someone's going to be like we're going to do this thing it's going to require all this
5:38 crazy crap they're the right people to say that I don't know yeah I suppose I
5:42 suppose just being honest that's that's pretty true oh oh oh that's basically
5:47 the beginning of Black Ops 3 oh yeah okay some people keep on
5:52 saying free geek yes we are here if people didn't see the tweet that we sent
5:56 out we are currently at free geek actually like we're right at the
6:00 receiving Bay yeah no there's like there's like some cool stuff going down
6:04 here I'm actually don't me to like pivot no I'm gonna hope this works wish me
6:08 luck I'm turning on the Bison cam okay
6:12 yes the Bison cam is here why did you turn that on turned on the Bison cam Hey
6:17 look it's look it's Brandon standing on a
6:20 thing hi Brandon hi Brandon what good
6:24 job Brandon OHA there goes everything oh wow
6:29 no we're we're still good no no it's okay we're still good we're still good
6:33 stay the course stay the course hi
6:37 Burl hi Dennis hi Ed hi hi John hi Taran
6:42 I can't see you guys because Dennis is in the way
6:48 phart um so yeah okay we destroy
6:52 everything we're back we're back I didn't destroy everything only the things you
6:56 created it's funny cuz it's true so uh
6:59 so there whoa whoa oh no no we might be okay we
7:03 might be okay come on baby pull together yeah woo okay uh excellent work I'll
7:10 keep working on this you you host the show that's fine no no I won't touch it
7:13 again I promise no it's it's the this cable shouldn't be wrapped around the
7:17 way it is don't make that face it worries me so much okay it's it's
7:21 supposed to go this way I got it everything is so fragile
7:27 Everything is Awesome all right so basic basically we spent the day at free geek
7:31 uh volunteering uh well actually okay technically are people who I pay which
7:37 includes me are we volunteers yes cuz
7:40 theid to be here the company is well we're not paid by them right the company
7:45 is volunteering the company's time so the lonus Media Group Company uh
7:48 volunteered the time of almost all of its employees except for Colton and Nick
7:52 who the business team yeah the business team money yeah they're just about money
7:57 yeah that's right uh no seriously though Nick was traveling for a family thing
8:00 and and Colton was actually preparing this show yeah so so he kind of had
8:04 important work to do so everyone's here we worked on dismantling computers we
8:08 worked on refurbishing computers uh we worked on tearing down old stuff that's
8:12 not worth dismantling or refurbishing we didn't get to work on some cool things
8:16 just honestly because I think we didn't have enough time uh but there was like
8:19 testing RAM uh wiping hard drives with deband and then installing free open
8:24 source stuff on them right now they're doing a buntu hopefully minut later uh
8:27 the laptop area was pretty crazy is a very very cool operation they've got
8:31 going on here I think it's fantastic we've actually got not one but two
8:35 videos coming up so we're going to have one where we show you guys around free
8:38 geek and the point of that video is not necessarily free geek Vancouver free
8:43 geek Vancouver free geek Vancouver it's not it's not that it's more just to talk
8:47 about these kinds of operations how cool they are and point out that you may have
8:51 something similar in your area and it uh it might be worth it it might straight
8:56 up be like from a dollar and cents like
9:00 and it perspective it might beend some
9:04 volunteering because this is something we didn't knowgeek they will actually
9:08 give anyone who volunteers here for I think it's 20 24 hours or 48 Hours 24
9:13 hours you get either a computer which is estimated value somewhere around $50 or
9:18 a $50 store credit and after you volunteer for I think 12 hours they give
9:23 you another 12 hours is it another 12 hours or just 12 hours in general I
9:27 don't know you get a 40% discount in the store other than on laptops which is a
9:31 20% discount and that makes the already really cheap stuff that they sell
9:35 actually ridiculously Dirt Cheap yeah totally true hi can I help you can I
9:39 help you Taran hi not disruptive at all that boy ain't
9:45 right anyways yeah so like it's actually pretty sick and one thing that I
9:48 observed too is if I could have came
9:51 here when I was a kid if I knew that these places existed I would have been
9:55 able to accelerate the learning of building computers and go into a
9:59 computer and how to diagnose things so
10:03 much the experience that you guys sorry
10:06 guys there the game's not really that high the issue is that those guys are
10:11 that loud so yeah anyway um what was I
10:16 going to say right yeah I think that even okay even for me I learned multiple
10:21 things today I learned more than one new
10:24 thing about computers uh for me particularly the most enlightening part
10:28 was working on some really old stuff so I tore apart an old quad socket uh Intel
10:34 Pentium Pro computer so cool that was so
10:37 cool it had like 14 expansion slots it
10:40 was like if you guys have seen a mountain mods case um like those double
10:45 wide super big tower cases it came in one of those uh but like obviously All
10:50 Steel and beige and old and all that kind of stuff like and I was like I was
10:54 tearing this thing apart I was going holy crap modular power supplies um not
10:59 a new thing at all those computers had
11:02 these ginormous like we're talking a 120 mm fan on the back doesn't even take up
11:07 the whole back of the power supply ginormous redundant modular power
11:12 supplies in it I was like what so cool
11:15 and this thing is so old that it had a Y2K compliancy sticker on the back there
11:21 was also one my favorite one was the other one that said Y2K uh not risk or
11:26 like uhk vulnerable yeah
11:30 why 2K vulnerable system so guys we have
11:33 two videos coming up the first one the video is just a tour of free geek and
11:38 what they do here and all the different stations they have should be really fun
11:42 and then the second one is just kind of like a moving Vlog style look at uh what
11:48 our crew did while we were volunteering here today being hopefully mostly
11:52 helpful with the exception of Taran and uh should just be kind of kind of a fun
11:56 little video so make sure you don't miss all at one station right now I I'm not
12:01 sure I think they're they're winding down I think they're heading out pretty quick anyway but um all right let's move
12:06 on shall we move on to our next uh wow topic here yes yes this is uh this is
12:11 kind of this is kind of a this is a thing California wants to ban encrypted
12:16 smartphones the idea isn't like oh terrorism we need to ban the encryptions
12:21 cuz the terrorists will encrypt the the ideas for the bombs no it's apparently
12:27 for a human trafficking thing did you like my yes I did I quite liked
12:32 it it was apparently for human trafficking so the idea is that a a a
12:37 smartphone manufacturer that is trying to sell stuff in California would be
12:40 able to uh would have to set in the ability for a device to be decrypted and
12:45 unlocked by its manufacturer or by its operating system provider so iOS or uh
12:51 Android whatever yeah yeah I mean you know what
12:55 there's a lot of the encryption argument
12:59 is not as simple and not as cut and
13:04 dried as a lot of people would make it out to be with that said I cannot get
13:10 behind legislative movements that would
13:14 make encryption illegal um I do
13:18 understand the argument that you know the the the purchase and sale of human
13:23 people something an industry that is very much alive and well you know as
13:27 much as as much as we'd all love to pretend that you know the um the issue
13:33 with black slavery in the United States was the end of it uh it was not by any
13:39 stretch of the imagination the end it was a travesty then it's a travesty now
13:43 um and it's absolutely disgusting in any in any shape or form um and is not good
13:51 and to look at it and go you know well the fact that there's these
13:57 encrypted Communications and these encrypted devices that these people are
14:02 utilizing to circumvent the law and keep these people from from regaining their
14:08 freedom is disgusting but um again I
14:12 really don't think the answer is to Outlaw encryption and to put and to put
14:17 the decryption of said device in the hands of the manufacturer where quite
14:22 frankly what is the regulation yeah basically none and like the the idea of
14:27 sacrificing Liberty for other things is maybe something that's a little bit too
14:30 advanced for our show and we probably shouldn't even be talking about that but
14:35 yeah I don't know so um yeah I was expecting those
14:40 comments were going to come up yeah okay
14:43 I I said I said black the same way that
14:46 I will say white or brown because it's short it's a single syllable it has
14:51 nothing to do with political correctness or nonpolitical correctness it's out of convenience
14:56 Samsung has taken to has been taken into court by a Dutch consumer Watchdog over
15:01 failing to update its phones there's an official statement
15:06 from Samsung it's pretty long so give me a sec at Samsung we understand that our
15:10 success depends on customer or consumer's trust in us and the products
15:15 and services that we provide that is why we have made a number of commitments in
15:18 recent months to better inform consumers about the status of security issues and
15:23 the measures we are taking to address those issues data security is a top
15:26 priority and we work hard every day to ensure that the devices we sell and the
15:30 information contained on those devices is safeguarded so so what I don't think
15:36 they said anything a really long blur they said
15:40 nothing they committed nothing all they said is data security is a top priority
15:46 and we work hard every day we try really hard hopefully that's
15:52 good enough um well it isn't just
15:57 throwing that out there and also that whole statistic that we covered on the W
16:00 show not that long ago where it's like wow Android phones suck for security Yep
16:05 they're like actually the bomb like like they explode in your face no they don't
16:10 they don't explode in your face but but they figuratively explode in your pants
16:15 which is a different explosion that's I
16:19 don't think twitch actually allows they have security problems they have
16:22 security problems so basically all I
16:25 have to really say about this article is
16:28 good on on you I would like to see every
16:31 consumer Watch Dog organization run around and nailing these cell phone
16:38 companies for not providing updates for their phones because quite
16:42 frankly even on Flagship class devices
16:46 we're talking devices with a bomb cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to
16:51 40% of the price that the consumer is actually paying for it where they're
16:55 literally bringing in hundreds of dollars of profit per device even on
16:59 Flagship devices it is rare to see an Android smartphone maker support it for
17:03 longer than about a year if you are a
17:07 year to two years if you're lucky past the EOL date and then that's a huge
17:12 problem because you know what if you don't buy it immediately on launch yeah
17:16 that's that's it's so yes because a lot
17:21 of the time it actually the support seems to have more to do with the launch
17:24 date that is a very good point than to do with the EOL date uh whereas the way
17:28 and I I know I always pointed apple as and they're not a perfect shining
17:32 example in fact I watched a great just
17:35 fantastic video on YouTube by all I wish
17:39 hold one second one second if you guys are just going to hang around and chat
17:42 please do it over there it's probably too loud for the twitch
17:45 chat I know oh they're working okay yeah that's fine well not everyone was I
17:49 wasn't addressing everyone um so I watched this great video by a guy who
17:53 works in um like in an Apple repair like Apple products repair shop he's got this
17:57 microscope and he kind of he kind of walks you through it's about an hourong
18:01 video but I sat and watched Jam near the whole thing which is very unusual for me
18:05 and he walks you through this you watch like 30% of my Oculus video yeah I I
18:10 will finish it um I don't watch much YouTube sorry anyway he does a
18:15 motherboard repair on a MacBook while spending the entire time talking about
18:19 the way that Apple has made and continues to make difficult the lives of
18:23 the people who repair and refurbish their products oh I've seen this
18:27 intentionally yeah was it was excellent wasn't it and he basically goes well
18:31 they could provide me with this fantastic diagram that tells me exactly
18:35 what all these components are and what they do and how I can repair them but
18:38 they don't they give it to the Apple Store who uses it to do nothing who uses
18:43 it to just plug into a a a console and
18:47 say replace whereas he's like I could
18:51 take that information and I could solder a new wire over your precious black
18:55 clean PCB that you don't want a bunch of wires running around on and I could fix
18:59 that computer and he brought up some really interesting points things that I
19:02 didn't realize like for example and you can pardon my ignorance here please I
19:07 didn't know that the iPhone 5S if you replace the phone button or the the
19:11 phone button the home button well it is kind of the only button on an iPhone if
19:14 you replace the home button on it touch ID goes away I did not know that the
19:19 home button is one of the most common things that needs to be repaired on an
19:23 iPhone the bloody things break all the time and it's like only Apple
19:29 if they repair your home button can keep Touch ID functionality
19:34 working and I was like really why
19:38 because the encryption is on a chip in the phone there is no reason there is
19:44 nothing that is anything to do with that button that would make it so you
19:48 couldn't do that and so okay so so
19:51 coming back to my point the point is not that apple is some kind of shining
19:55 example for you know being pro consumer
19:58 consumer rights and there's a lot of arguments being made that they
20:01 intentionally slow down their phones something I don't necessarily actually
20:06 buy because something a lot of people don't really consider in all of that is
20:11 that there's a lot more to faster phones than just a faster processor and more
20:16 RAM there's the fact that storage mobile
20:19 storage has improved by Leaps and Bounds
20:23 drives in their new phones that's right by Leaps and Bounds over the last few
20:28 Generations what do you want Apple to just not build in any new functionality
20:32 that takes advantage of the new phones no I don't necessarily expect that
20:36 um but compared to apple and the Android
20:40 ecosystem is just a complete mess with some phones coming out with a given
20:46 Android operating system that might not even be the most recent one and then
20:50 never ever even being updated
20:53 so headphones like that yeah so I've got a couple of uh yeah I've got a couple
20:58 couple of more notes on this so it's the
21:02 consum bond whatever okay that's I'm sure that's Bond yeah I'm sure that's a
21:07 Dutch word that I just butchered just now uh so it's a nonprofit that looks
21:10 after the interests of consumers in the Netherlands so they're taking Samsung to
21:14 court over failure to provide updates in a timely manner they reached out to
21:17 Samsung on December the 2nd in an absence of a proper response they issued
21:21 injunctive relief proceedings against Samsung so they say that 82% of Samsung
21:26 phones it checked were not updated within 2 years of their
21:31 introduction yeah not surprising Samsung's a huge part of that uh Android
21:36 ecosystem and probably a huge part of that percentage that we found of
21:40 unsecured phones a lot of people that I talk to think that it's an apple or a
21:45 Galaxy actually like like when we were at CES a lot of people were saying uh
21:51 Apple or Samsung yeah yeah y do you have a Samsung oh yeah yeah when I was at
21:55 when I was at a booth for a battery that was heat that would heat up I don't even
22:00 know if it ended up being one of our top five like a hand warmer yeah like I was
22:03 like do you have a Samsung I was like No And then I like pull up my phone he's
22:07 like oh you have a Samsung I'm like no it's a Sony like but it's a Samsung I'm
22:12 like and that's no it's not like oh you're a you're an idiot because you
22:17 don't realize that you know an Android phone doesn't have to be a Samsung the
22:22 reality of it is is that's probably all that most normal consumers have really
22:27 seen I mean Samsung owns a huge chunk of
22:30 the Android market so yeah basically what the the
22:34 Dutch Watchdog is asking is for Samsung to support every device it sells for 2
22:39 years regardless of how old it
22:43 is very very interesting so that would
22:46 mean they would have to support starting at the EOL date rather than the
22:49 introduction date and it would mean that they can't just provide like one or two
22:55 updates on a flagship if you guys are going to release a model then you better
22:59 actually support it something that could be a big problem for Samsung because we've seen this they take that you know
23:05 throw the pot of spaghetti at the wall and then figure out which noodles stick
23:09 and kind of you know support that those ones approach and that's not going to
23:14 fly if you have to actually properly support your devices you're going to
23:17 have to actually oh I don't know figure out what people want and build that
23:22 instead of just building you know do you remember that weird phone that they did
23:26 for old people the like the Galaxy um a
23:30 the Galaxy it was like didn't have the custom operating system and stuff and it
23:33 was really large it was huge and it was like right around the time they introduced easy mode yeah easy mode and
23:39 it had like a 720p screen I I can't remember what it was program I should
23:42 have said yeah I'm sure that twitch chat is telling me all about it right now but
23:47 it was just it was just like hilarious and they were like yeah it's like the
23:50 smartphone for people who don't see very well I'm like really how many of those
23:55 are you going to sell like like did you did you actually survey like senior
23:59 citizens and ask them if they want this cuz I'm willing to bet they don't I'm
24:03 willing to bet they don't want it don't improve your glasses buy a special smartphone the
24:08 Galaxy Mega that's the one thank you to uh I can't read your name it's in lime
24:12 green and it's on a white background so Galaxy Mega were Don yeah the G it's
24:16 like a small tablet barely a small tablet I think it was like a 6 and 1/2
24:21 in device or something ridiculous like
24:25 that all right um this next is
24:28 interesting so uh the Apple to Widow and
24:34 this isn't exactly how they said it at all but this is the title I guess Apple
24:37 to Widow want your dead husband's password get a court order um a Canadian
24:42 Widow is locked in a battle with apple over her dead husband's password for
24:46 their iPad um she is stated saying where is it
24:51 she just want she used to play games on it or something and now she can't which
24:56 sounds a little weird cuz she would have probably needed the password for that um
25:01 well yes and no I mean like again like
25:04 we take for granted as tech savvy people
25:07 that you want to figure out how to do things yourself not everyone's like that
25:12 some people would just be like hey hubby unlock this for me I'm going to do a
25:15 thing or like who knows like maybe like I'm just guessing but I'm just I'm
25:19 coming up with plausible reasons why she might not why she might not care maybe
25:23 she's not that mobile maybe he brought it to her every
25:26 time right like there's a lot of reasons
25:30 why you know and people take care of each other like that's fair you know my
25:33 my wife doesn't really know how to turn on our entertainment system it's really
25:38 complicated she says it's complicated which is of course a load of nonsense
25:42 but um okay doesn't necessarily work all the time that is a valid observation
25:47 about our entertainment setup it's funny cuz the more it's probably a valid
25:51 observation about like everything that they have at their house but that's a perfect example you got to remember for
25:55 some people unlocking an iPad is about as foreign as you know firing up her
26:01 receiver and selecting the right input for the is a technological system well
26:05 lonus is probably changed it seven times in the last four months so who knows
26:09 what's going on right now am I wrong look at the
26:14 servers I knew he was I knew he was heading for this I knew he was going to
26:18 go after the server you know what that's it I Quit nope that's cool you do the
26:23 show yourself I'm not really too sure about this personally I think there's
26:26 some issues there like some people will stay together even if their relationship
26:30 isn't good and there could be private information on that iPad so I don't
26:34 actually really support the idea of just randomly getting access to all of the
26:38 things for the person that used to be your spouse that's actually kind of a
26:42 little odd in my opinion even in Apple's
26:46 terms and services Apple tnc's it says agree that your account is
26:49 non-transferable and that any rights to your Apple ID or content within your
26:53 account terminate upon your death upon receiving uh a copy of your death
26:58 certificate your account may be terminated and all content within your
27:03 account deleted I actually kind of agree with that because while yes she might
27:08 have been immobile and her husband may have brought her her things and let her
27:12 play the games on the tablet there could also be another story and I know I
27:16 probably sound like an saying that I agree with that I came back at
27:19 just the right moment you're an
27:23 wow I'm back though you're so rude I'm back I I I maybe I maybe I en
27:28 is that one of NC's professional LCDs
27:32 like an older one look how thick it is sorry sorry I'll let you finish your
27:35 story all of these are like that maybe it's just really
27:39 old okay go go ahead probably going with that one I was mostly done what I was
27:43 saying was in Apple's teas and C's if you die your account is closed y your
27:48 account isn't given to someone it is closed and I actually totally agree with
27:51 that while there is the possibility where it's like oh honey here play games
27:55 on the iPad I'm sorry that you are
27:58 having a not perfect day um it could also be something nefarious not not
28:03 every couple is doing super great when one of them passes and that's true um
28:07 but I mean the other thing that I kind of object to here is that with Apple
28:10 devices if they're locked to an Apple ID you can't even reset it so we're talking
28:13 about a physical device that gets bricked by that's a little Annoying yeah
28:18 yeah we're talking a physical device that is effectively bricked because
28:21 reset it I I would think they should be all the DAT should be wiped and apple
28:25 should help them reset it she should be able to play the games on the iPad Apple believes in privacy and encryption
28:29 totally get that totally respect that um but that doesn't mean that Hardware
28:33 should just be rendered worthless by um
28:36 someone passing away so yeah they in a
28:40 freaking storage room basically yeah yeah pretty much no it's uh it's it's
28:44 really cool we have videos coming about what exactly it is we're doing here and
28:47 they are going to be worthwhile speaking of Apple you know I
28:52 was actually going to say we should burn through our topics and then I was going
28:55 to say we should take turns going and finding cool stuff to talk about in the
28:58 in the warehouse here yeah so that was what I thought of while I was standing over there cool um so let's uh let's
29:04 let's move right along thank you I had a thought that was that was good I felt
29:08 pretty I felt pretty good wow we have a lot of topics this week rap fire are not
29:12 rapid Colton's uh Colton's actually gotten to the point where he's doing a
29:16 surprisingly good job of the wow
29:19 document well no it's surprising given how crappy they were
29:24 before which I guess doesn't make what I said fail not unveiled at all
29:29 insults they were really bad and youve made them not as bad no they're really
29:34 good now that's why I said it's surprising how do you go from like
29:38 really terrible to quite excellent so let's do St trying to compliment
29:43 let's oh no if I wanted to compliment people you'd
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30:54 cool um and then there's one like big
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31:10 mean it's got a price right right on the back cover this one's worth 10 bucks um
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35:00 one thing okay I've always been confused about this you say especially if you're
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35:07 because it's relative ease if you're a wicked numbers person the relative ease
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35:16 yes not actually easier it's how much yeah it doesn't make it easier if you
35:20 are not a numbers person being a numbers person will still help you use fresh
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35:31 time I was like but but no no no I yeah no I I get
35:37 it I get where they're going I get where they're going with that yeah um Oh I
35:41 thought that was your comment no no no no that's that's fresh books' pitch um
35:46 so our our topic people posted in the
35:49 Forum so far are do sjr Aries creger um
35:53 Z mule and we've got oh yeah wkd Paul
35:57 and we've got Mr troll Mr troll Mr troll
36:03 no wait no we have Z mu again um so apparently Google paid apple one
36:09 billion one billion us to keep their
36:13 search bar on the iPhone holy actual crap hopefully Google
36:19 can play Firefox more so that Firefox stops telling me that if everyone
36:24 reading this donated $3 they wouldn't need to ask anymore well no that that
36:28 that deal is dead right Firefox is with Yahoo now for the long time no I know oh
36:34 yeah but like I think but wish that hadn't been a thing I think Yahoo isn't
36:37 paying them as much money probably because everyone's manually switching
36:40 their search back to Google anyways um so like the the aggressiveness of
36:46 Firefox asking for money is pretty intense and like I've I've actually
36:49 donated a relatively okay amount of money to Firefox and they're still like
36:53 actually that's probably why that's probably the reason cuz as soon as I donated to Wikipedia they harass me all
36:58 the time yeah uh same thing with BC Children's Hospital like I get letters
37:02 all the time I'm like uh Canadian Red
37:05 Cross actually they were really making me mad cuz I actually have a monthly
37:09 donation to them monthly every month and
37:12 all of a sudden they were calling me all the time they were like yo can you reup can you double up I'm like come on you
37:18 know why don't you go keep doing what you were doing going door to door like
37:21 someone came to my door and was like yo do you want to donate to the Canadian rad cross I'm like sure so go do more of
37:26 that find new donors like don't harass
37:30 the people who are already like yeah I think what you're doing is great because
37:34 you're going to lose my support I think I think there's like
37:37 there's a nice way to to to do that kind of stuff yeah um anyway so Apple
37:43 apparently received a billion from Google in 2014 to keep the search bar uh
37:47 according to the transcript of the Court proceedings from Oracle corpse lawsuit
37:50 against Google so Google has an agreement that gives Apple a percentage
37:54 of Revenue that Google generates through Apple devices at one time that share was
37:58 apparently 34% although we don't know like who got
38:02 the 34 yeah
38:05 the uh the attorney for Google tried to get the judge to strike the mention from
38:10 the record which did not work
38:14 obviously John is here is that just crazy what's that if someone had an
38:18 agreement where there was like we're sharing 34% of this profit thing and
38:22 someone was like can you just strike that from the agreement in court that's just never going to work right um not
38:28 unless there some sort of like exceptional circumstance or maybe
38:31 evidence that like that was just slipped in without the other party's knowledge
38:34 just something crazy yeah okay joh John assures us that would have been very
38:38 unlikely he's our he's our resident used
38:41 to know a thing or two about law before he became a Canadian um disclaimer not
38:46 liced to practice law yeah disclaimer not licensed to practice law in Canada
38:50 that's or California oh really well that we were talking about California oh we
38:54 were talking about California who cares okay you do I know because that's yeah
38:59 I'm sad
39:03 now we love you
39:06 John um Intel is rebuilding itself on
39:09 three pillars and the PC is apparently
39:14 not one of them so their three pillars are like Internet of Things server and
39:19 memory uh so yeah see so their CEO Brian
39:22 kranich said that the PC business provides a foundation of intellectual
39:26 property and a source of cash flow but it is not the sole driver of our growth
39:33 I actually read this article okay this is one where Colton's notes could have
39:37 been a little bit better uh because it was something along the lines of that
39:41 the PC is here I'm going to get B the
39:45 okay so already those three businesses
39:48 generated nearly 40% of Intel's revenue
39:52 and 60% of their operating
39:55 profits very very very interesting so
39:59 that's how Intel continues to grow lately in spite of the ever shrinking
40:03 demand for desktop PCS now I suspect
40:08 there's some chicken and egg going on here where if Intel was building
40:11 dramatically faster computers that enable dramatically uh different user
40:16 experiences there might be more demand for them but Intel also is not in
40:20 control of the the pace of the rest of
40:23 the industry so Intel can build as many 8 core CPUs as it wants but if no one is
40:29 building software that actually leverages all those threads then they're
40:32 basically just more cor sitting in your computer consuming power and doing
40:36 pretty much not a whole lot of anything which is a thing which I totally get uh
40:41 AMD's news is um they lost a lot of
40:44 money but like not as much but actually
40:47 more depending on how you want to compare it yeah yay
40:52 AMD um it is just kind of a miracle to
40:56 me that they enabling today inspiring tomorrow losing today losing money today
41:01 losing money tomorrow hopefully not losing money
41:05 anymore 3 days after tomorrow that's that's the goal so so you guys can check
41:09 out the numbers if you want as usual we're going to have all that stuff
41:12 linked but the long the long and the short of it is that um on a revenue of
41:18 just shy of 4 billion they were down 28%
41:22 year-over-year Revenue wise primarily due due to lower client processor sales
41:27 they had a gross margin of 27% down 6 percentage points year-over-year and due
41:32 to lower unit volumes this is due to lower unit volumes and product mix and
41:36 they had a net loss of 660 million on that $4 billion of
41:42 Revenue um which is yeah uh
41:47 okay
41:51 yep hopefully their processors and new gpus do well in the future yep I think
41:56 that we're all hoping for their upcoming gpus to absolutely rock the house that
42:01 would be really good and for their Zen processors to rock even more houses even
42:06 harder I yeah I agree with that statement too because of exactly what
42:09 Intel just did so that article was posted by Z the next one we have up here
42:13 also Z mule Z mu is like on fire this week I'm going to post all the Articles
42:18 cuz my name is z mu yeah that's what he sounds like yeah all right you hit this
42:22 he types that fast he's like okay so this is actually not that interesting
42:26 sorry crazy mule um it is in Rapid and
42:30 Colton it is in Rapid Fire on the thing
42:33 uh Oculus is founder so Palmer lucky is being sued for Stuff apparently he
42:38 worked for some company in 2011 who had
42:41 him produce some stuff and then now maybe that stuff is part of an Oculus or
42:46 maybe it's not we don't know all we know
42:50 at all is that a judge said like okay this can become something in court
42:57 lucky calls the lawsuit a Brazen attempt to secure for themselves a stake in
43:02 Oculus vr's recent multi-billion dollar acquisition by Facebook um so basically
43:07 doesn't seem to think a whole lot of it
43:12 yeah yep uh we've got another rapid fire topic w z mule again z z mu I am Z mule
43:19 I carry Al Z news things uh so here the
43:24 original article is from the J deck website these are the um presumably
43:28 super um cool at a party Engineers who
43:31 develop memory standards actually to be completely honest if I was at a party
43:35 and there was a jck engineer I would definitely probably hang out with them the entire time so I was actually okay
43:39 I'm going to I'm going to tangent just putting that out there and I know you've done that kind of stuff before too yep I
43:43 was at an ocz party where like some famous person like some rapper or
43:48 something I can't remember like actually a big deal was performing and I managed
43:54 to find um a guy who worked on the
43:57 original SATA specification um for then he like worked
44:01 at Marvel like during those years and like we he we were he like talked my ear
44:06 off about SATA the entire time we like found a quiet corner and and I was just
44:11 like so like tell me about this and tell me about that and like you know what
44:15 what makes it better than P how do we make it faster how do we keep making it
44:18 faster what's the future of Drive interfaces and and like like the okay
44:23 whatever Taran it was cool um so yes yes
44:27 as much as literally is wearing a shirt that says Talk Nerdy to Me and tries to
44:31 mock you with some guy talking nerdy to you yeah so anyway jck publishes gddr5x
44:39 Graphics memory standard so they're targeting data rates in the 10 to 14 GB
44:42 per second range which would be about a 2X increase over gddr5 now to be clear
44:47 this is not a replacement for hbm or hbm2 which is what you're going to see
44:51 on high-end graphics cards like AMD's current Fiji cards but rather um a
44:56 replace placement for the mid-range cards where you can't necessarily afford
45:01 the additional cost of Cutting Edge hbm memory nor would you necessarily see a
45:05 benefit from it because it's no secret that modern high-end cards are doing
45:11 just fine with gddr5 so it usually takes a few
45:16 generations for a mid-range or a low-end card to catch up to the performance of
45:19 an old high-end card so in theory we'd be good with slower memory for quite
45:23 some time well this is a way to address
45:26 that yeah um all right what else we got here
45:32 I think I'm just going to kind of um do you want to do the thing yeah yeah let's
45:36 do it why why don't why don't you go first while I do a little mini news
45:39 thing here so this was posted by that Norwegian guy the original article here
45:43 is wccf Tech and uh let me just put up my screen
45:48 capture here the GTX 970 now the most
45:54 popular graphics card on the steam survey
45:57 which I actually had a number of people in The Forum Thread about this say was
46:02 not interesting and not remarkable that is incredibly interesting and Incredibly
46:07 remarkable I don't remember the last time actually no I think probably the
46:12 last time we would have seen a current gen card like high-end card as a top
46:19 card on the steam survey would have been in the 8800 GT days and what you guys
46:24 need to also realize is the 8800 GT
46:27 was I think it was like it was $299 or
46:32 or something $249 I think it launched then it got jacked up to 299 and then
46:36 for like superclock or whatever it was up to like 349 don't don't quote me on
46:39 the exact numbers but it was a very very
46:42 reasonable price and delivered pretty much the same performance as the 8800
46:47 GTX that had come before it so that was
46:50 an extremely disruptive card the GTX
46:55 970 not not that disruptive compared to
46:58 NVIDIA's own lineup so the fact that it has sold so incredibly well no go ahead
47:03 I'm going to run and get one the fact that it has sold so incredibly well over
47:06 time really points to uh what a success
47:10 uh NVIDIA has been in creating and
47:13 marketing that card all right well you talk about what you found I'm going to
47:16 go find something cool if you guys want to find cool things then so I don't even
47:19 know like what entirely this is it has
47:24 little ARM things which seem to be able to operate so this one is like a clampy
47:29 ARM the other one is also a clampy ARM but it has like you could put something
47:34 in it and it would sit there I don't know how it operate like the ARM can
47:38 move it can reach out and grab things
47:41 and do whatever but realistically like
47:45 there's a huge thing in the back there's DC in I'm assuming the head turns
47:50 internally within the Dome the Dome doesn't turn itself but it's it's a tape
47:55 player so right now there is currently
47:59 um a depesh mode tape construction Time
48:03 Again by depesh mode so it's a tape player and a
48:09 robot I don't I don't know I don't I
48:12 don't know it's not for sale it's up in the store it's not for sale this is what
48:16 was actually right beside it so I'm going to take this away you're up all right okay so I found two things first
48:22 of all this awesome Coca-Cola phone that's not really that big of a deal put
48:26 replacement plates on phones was was a thing no no what I'm into right here is
48:32 this tashiba t1200 yes my
48:37 friends mechanical keyboard yeah that's
48:40 right LCD display with brightness
48:44 brightness knob wheel right here latching fold down
48:49 display LCD contrast wheel over here on
48:53 the left as well as ab and disc and reset whatever the devil all that is
48:58 we've got our 12vt input our power on and off switch as well as there's a hard
49:02 drive on and off switch which I think is fantastic the battery release button
49:06 here it's got a o printer port external floppy disc drive port a composite Port
49:12 uh key bad keypad Port o RGB I think did
49:17 they used to call V oh look at that that 3 and 1 12 inch floppy drive with 3 and
49:21 1/2 in expansion Bay below it this thing
49:25 is about as freaking vintage as it gets
49:29 made by the Toshiba Corporation and I
49:32 think John's got something John Sub in here man go for it tell them all about
49:36 what you found so I just found what
49:39 appears to be okay can you guys see me great I think this is the original Sound
49:44 Blaster it has oh hi Luke Luke is back
49:48 so it has a joystick Port okay it has an
49:51 old it has an old school joystick Port it has some sort of dial it has some
49:56 sort of like weird dial thing sticking out I guess that's for volume and
49:59 something called the talking parrot I'm get this mischievous parrot mimics your
50:04 speech talks back passes outrageous remark and screams when you tickle it so
50:09 it kind of sounds like the predecessor to bonsy Buddy except it won't install
50:13 like horrible malware on your system system that you can't get rid of uh yeah
50:19 system requirements dos 2.0 or higher
50:23 coming to a um coming to an egb or
50:27 excuse me an EG based Graphics system near you um so yeah you need 512 K
50:34 kilobytes of RAM minimum hold on there Luke make sure you have at least 512
50:38 kilobytes of RAM who has 512 kilobytes
50:41 of RAM I don't I heard that's all you'll ever need no Bill Gat said what it was
50:45 like 64 he never said that oh okay okay then
50:49 today I learned they have giant Stacks I only bought brought part of the giant
50:52 Stacks I don't even know if these are written yet probably not but they have giant stacks of all the Linux you could
50:57 need they have Ubuntu and I believe mint you can come here and get a free disc
51:01 and then one thing that I like is going to be kind of hard to show but I'll get
51:05 it up there giant bin of CPU yeah you
51:08 can you you can see it show them the Pentium Pro show them the Pentium Pro
51:12 and they can't hear you remember cuz the mic's over here check out that Pentium
51:16 Pro yeah boy yeah
51:19 boy okay okay I've got I've got two I
51:23 cheated I brought two things I brought two things oh you brought two things too
51:26 okay okay mine right here this my friends is the 3D mouse 3D mouse it had
51:34 it's made by A4 teex since 1987 feel the
51:38 noiseless Comfort it's actually got like a a thing through the package so you can
51:42 spin the scroll wheel check this out DPI 520 which is 30% faster than 400 DPI wow
51:50 wow amazing enjoy quiet scrolling
51:53 without distracting noises 3D mouse
51:57 wow also does it go in the Z Direction and also X no it does not it doesn't do
52:02 Z it just does X and Y how is it a 3D here show show show them the close-up of
52:06 the package the package is so amazing FOC yeah it's it's fine it's fine yeah
52:10 uh shift it down a little bit it's got a reflection there uh the other way there
52:15 you go okay check that out DPI 520 is
52:19 30% faster than 400 DPI my friends yes
52:23 my friends wow indeed okay okay check this out check this up this is okay
52:29 you're my van and white right now I think this is higher there you go this
52:34 is before the AOL the AOL CD became a
52:39 thing okay that is an AOL 3 and 1/2 in
52:43 floppy disette yes my friends that is a
52:47 great value right there I can let that go for as little as
52:51 99.95 yes that can be done in seven easy
52:54 payments of2 $100 going once going twice gone my
53:00 sanity is gone thank you thank you for that did you find something John get in
53:04 there all right go go go so I also this is another fantastic
53:11 thing I found you guys remember this it's one of those old slot style Pentium
53:15 2os and thank you Taran and if I recall
53:18 correctly I think this is the only the
53:21 only ever the only slot style um consumer CPU that Intel ever produced
53:26 and a hey lonus um correct me if I'm
53:30 wrong on this but wasn't this basically just a Pentium 3 without some like
53:35 instruction set extension like I don't
53:38 remember actually that is you're going back so far that before my time the
53:42 performance isn't too far off from a Pentium 3 but it comes in this really
53:46 cool slot that has a shiny thing on it and they just don't make him like that
53:50 anymore unfortunately the penum
53:54 2 can you sit down I I can sit down okay
53:59 they can't he I'm talking for Luke can they see it on the screen uh yeah you
54:02 hold it higher up yeah right there that's a whole bunch of RAM 2 gab
54:07 minimum capacity 2 gab minimum capacity
54:11 ECC memory you're just going to have to talk louder I can't I'll do it all right
54:16 so that is a bucket of two gig sticks of
54:20 ddr2 ECC RAM server RAM right there a
54:23 lot of those look like fully buffered dims if uh if have those heat sinks on
54:27 them yes my friends that is a very very
54:31 small fraction of the random RAM that they have around here they got
54:35 everything check this out new sealed Microsoft Windows Server 2003
54:41 Enterprise Edition brand new sealed
54:45 Adobe Photoshop
54:48 CS4 what else you got over there oh that
54:52 is a doozy of a that is a doozy of a keyboard this my friends Commodore 64
54:57 keyboard it's got the green sticker on it so that means it
55:02 works I mean look at this this has keys that run stop like I are you kidding me
55:09 control Port one control Port two this is this is pre my days like my family
55:14 had a Commodore but that was when I was at an age where I would not I would not
55:18 remember such a thing I mean commodor they counted like Microsoft F1 F3 F5 F7
55:24 it's like Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox one it's
55:29 did no one knows how to count in the computer industry it's absolutely
55:33 amazing so I think uh I think we're going to get kicked out of here pretty
55:37 soon so we're not going to we're not going to carry on too much longer but if
55:41 Luke and John find one more thing each we can uh we can show you guys some
55:44 other cool relics here but don't miss oh wow oh wow Taran brought yeah okay well
55:50 this is worth waiting around for
55:54 guys this am I holding it up correctly
55:58 can they hear you yeah yeah it's good it's good they can see it okay so this
56:03 is this was actually donated as is except for probably the free geek
56:06 sticker that's sitting in there it's FedEx shipping boxes that someone made
56:10 rotated around y that someone made into a computer case that's still holding
56:13 together it was properly water cooled at one point it's been slightly taken apart
56:17 so it's not exactly functional this moment but it could work if you just
56:21 kind of hook some things up and probably replace the fluid so yeah people can get
56:25 creative I don't know that's pretty crazy so
56:30 someone ran this as their computer is it a fire hazard maybe to a certain degree
56:35 but uh it worked that's this is the best thing ever it worked taking a picture it
56:40 did work this is another one of those like actually not for sale things and if
56:46 Taran dropped it it would be very
56:49 bad oh I was just going to go on the other side yeah that's
56:54 fine okay so uh thank you guys very much
56:57 all 8600 of you for tuning in to the W
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57:17 the time here to help these guys you know refurb computers and help out
57:21 people who otherwise can't afford to get one and um I would like to announce
57:25 actually at this time that in addition to us just kind of being here chilling
57:30 with these guys and spending some time uh some labor time we have also
57:33 committed to make a donation to help them to keep their operation going uh
57:37 you know keep the lights on businesses even if they're not for profit
57:41 businesses have real expenses that they actually legitimately have to pay I
57:46 don't remember how much money I said do you you said $1,000 I said $1,000 we
57:49 have not done it yet we won't be doing it yet we're waiting for some accounting
57:52 stuff on their side that they actually need to sort out but uh we're also
57:56 committing $1,000 donation to free geek because we think what they're doing is absolutely fantastic so uh again thanks
58:02 to them for allowing us to be here thanks to you guys for for tuning in and
58:05 uh we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel totally
58:09 different bat place I think we're we're speaking of bats we're batting about you
58:13 know 20 20 200 batting 200 I remember
58:17 how that works we're batting 200 for actually broadcasting the W show
58:20 together from the normal location twice
58:23 that no that means uh 20%
58:27 for the last five shows we've only 500 is like
58:31 perfect is even 5050 Yeah so basically
58:35 they moved the decimal over two places for no apparent reason yeah that's
58:38 really weird yeah so that's weird go baseball why' you do that America all
58:43 right thanks for tuning in guys no after no after party today
58:48 unfortunately we have to pack up and go no I will be doing a thing but no after
58:53 party today we have to pack up and go so you go ahead and say I will doing a
58:56 thing Afterparty thing on my twitch Channel but not for like a while cuz
59:00 we're in Vancouver really far away from home so yay don't wait for
59:16 it
59:21 get looks cool
59:33 oh that's the desktop backround yeah it's the background oh oh that's easy
59:37 that is easy oh whoops I should turn off the show camera