all right guys welcome to the W show
it's going to be a great show for you guys today um we are mostly set up uh
except there are definitely at least two things that I forgot I didn't log into
twitch uh to monitor twitch chat and I only have one computer to do that on so
I'm going to be like trying to are you browsing the dock on that computer that
yeah yeah I'm also using this for the dock there's like the mount for our pop
filter is completely in the way of the keyboard and the touchpad but it's okay
I can work around that we have a very special special W show for you guys
today we've got a lot of great topics as usual um what are what are our topics
well first Palmer lucky founder of oculus getting sued for Stuff talk about
that more later and then Intel is rebuilding itself rebuilding the pillars
of its foundation shut upch PC is not one of them yeah uh there's some other
good stuff California wants to ban encrypted smartphon and the US military
apparently wants to build cyborgs by combining Hans with computers which the
last time I checked is literally the definition of building a cyborg pretty
much yes how how that actually works so uh we're going to roll the intro while I
figure out a couple of things quietly behind the scenes here and uh
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put some twitch up in it out of a lot of my accounts not to mention all the two
Factor authentication so it is it is very slow and very difficult for me to
get into any of my accounts right now and I'm not streaming from the usual
computer so all of this is making everything take much longer than I'd
like do you want to jump into our first topic here uh do you want the first
topic to be the first one on the thing I don't care well the first topic is the
US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers which we
made a joke about a little bit early on if you're connecting now the joke was
that's literally the definition of building a cyborg so like we get it bro
anyways I haven't read this one at all but unsurprisingly it's DARPA it's DARPA
they do crazy stuff if you look in like if you look at old military movies and
they're like whoa we're trying this like crazy revolutionary thing we're going to
do some crazy bull crap which probably won't work it was probably DARPA it's I
don't know they're the ones that have that like crazy robotic dog thing that
carries stuff around that people kick every single time it's in videos so that
they can like it corrects itself have you seen that it is really cool it is
cool I'm not saying it's not cool I mean it's just I think that's DARPA as well
isn't it it's it's pretty it's like pretty the bomb yeah like it's pretty
sweet cuz you can like people walk up to it and drop kick it really hard and it
corrects itself even on ice and then is able to keep walking and it can carry a
very large amount of weight I don't remember what it's called it's called something
but anyways yeah so pretty much uh they
want to develop high bandwidth implantable neural interfaces to open
the channel between the human brain and modern Electronics obviously I can think
of a lot of really beneficial uses for
this that are not necessarily blowing up other dudes um but I mean with that like
I'm not gonna I'm not going to rag on the US military too hard either right
now because frankly a lot of stuff that is developed by the US military for US
military purposes does eventually does
eventually end up getting used for something that's a little bit nicer um
or a form of it will yeah um it's not a new research topic by any stretch of the
imagination but most of the projects have been hampered by slow uh limited
control so nesd manager for DARPA says
today's brain computer interface systems are like two supercomputers trying to
talk to each other using an old 300 bod modem
which is actually kind of kind of a clever way of clever way of putting that
I mean computers are fast and the human brain is amazing but right now the
interfaces we have between them I mean the best we can do at the moment is a
keyboard and mouse which if you want to be if you wanted to break that down into
like data rate really really really
really really slow like painfully painfully slow so the aim then is to
connect individual neurons and establish much finer control with less noise so
that you can speed up the communication this will require breakthroughs in the
following Neuroscience synthetic biology
low power Electronics photonics medical
device engineering and packaging and all that is according to the agency no big
deal yeah so whatever so it's like I might as well say that I'm planning to
build a flying fish we can figure it out by Friday which will require
advancements in aerodynamics it is Friday you know oxy fish uh interface
material St Tois
and that's a word I wish them luck
basically it's DARPA so if someone's going to be like we're going to do this thing it's going to require all this
crazy crap they're the right people to say that I don't know yeah I suppose I
suppose just being honest that's that's pretty true oh oh oh that's basically
the beginning of Black Ops 3 oh yeah okay some people keep on
saying free geek yes we are here if people didn't see the tweet that we sent
out we are currently at free geek actually like we're right at the
receiving Bay yeah no there's like there's like some cool stuff going down
here I'm actually don't me to like pivot no I'm gonna hope this works wish me
luck I'm turning on the Bison cam okay
yes the Bison cam is here why did you turn that on turned on the Bison cam Hey
look it's look it's Brandon standing on a
thing hi Brandon hi Brandon what good
job Brandon OHA there goes everything oh wow
no we're we're still good no no it's okay we're still good we're still good
stay the course stay the course hi
Burl hi Dennis hi Ed hi hi John hi Taran
I can't see you guys because Dennis is in the way
phart um so yeah okay we destroy
everything we're back we're back I didn't destroy everything only the things you
created it's funny cuz it's true so uh
so there whoa whoa oh no no we might be okay we
might be okay come on baby pull together yeah woo okay uh excellent work I'll
keep working on this you you host the show that's fine no no I won't touch it
again I promise no it's it's the this cable shouldn't be wrapped around the
way it is don't make that face it worries me so much okay it's it's
supposed to go this way I got it everything is so fragile
Everything is Awesome all right so basic basically we spent the day at free geek
uh volunteering uh well actually okay technically are people who I pay which
includes me are we volunteers yes cuz
theid to be here the company is well we're not paid by them right the company
is volunteering the company's time so the lonus Media Group Company uh
volunteered the time of almost all of its employees except for Colton and Nick
who the business team yeah the business team money yeah they're just about money
yeah that's right uh no seriously though Nick was traveling for a family thing
and and Colton was actually preparing this show yeah so so he kind of had
important work to do so everyone's here we worked on dismantling computers we
worked on refurbishing computers uh we worked on tearing down old stuff that's
not worth dismantling or refurbishing we didn't get to work on some cool things
just honestly because I think we didn't have enough time uh but there was like
testing RAM uh wiping hard drives with deband and then installing free open
source stuff on them right now they're doing a buntu hopefully minut later uh
the laptop area was pretty crazy is a very very cool operation they've got
going on here I think it's fantastic we've actually got not one but two
videos coming up so we're going to have one where we show you guys around free
geek and the point of that video is not necessarily free geek Vancouver free
geek Vancouver free geek Vancouver it's not it's not that it's more just to talk
about these kinds of operations how cool they are and point out that you may have
something similar in your area and it uh it might be worth it it might straight
up be like from a dollar and cents like
and it perspective it might beend some
volunteering because this is something we didn't knowgeek they will actually
give anyone who volunteers here for I think it's 20 24 hours or 48 Hours 24
hours you get either a computer which is estimated value somewhere around $50 or
a $50 store credit and after you volunteer for I think 12 hours they give
you another 12 hours is it another 12 hours or just 12 hours in general I
don't know you get a 40% discount in the store other than on laptops which is a
20% discount and that makes the already really cheap stuff that they sell
actually ridiculously Dirt Cheap yeah totally true hi can I help you can I
help you Taran hi not disruptive at all that boy ain't
right anyways yeah so like it's actually pretty sick and one thing that I
observed too is if I could have came
here when I was a kid if I knew that these places existed I would have been
able to accelerate the learning of building computers and go into a
computer and how to diagnose things so
much the experience that you guys sorry
guys there the game's not really that high the issue is that those guys are
that loud so yeah anyway um what was I
going to say right yeah I think that even okay even for me I learned multiple
things today I learned more than one new
thing about computers uh for me particularly the most enlightening part
was working on some really old stuff so I tore apart an old quad socket uh Intel
Pentium Pro computer so cool that was so
cool it had like 14 expansion slots it
was like if you guys have seen a mountain mods case um like those double
wide super big tower cases it came in one of those uh but like obviously All
Steel and beige and old and all that kind of stuff like and I was like I was
tearing this thing apart I was going holy crap modular power supplies um not
a new thing at all those computers had
these ginormous like we're talking a 120 mm fan on the back doesn't even take up
the whole back of the power supply ginormous redundant modular power
supplies in it I was like what so cool
and this thing is so old that it had a Y2K compliancy sticker on the back there
was also one my favorite one was the other one that said Y2K uh not risk or
like uhk vulnerable yeah
why 2K vulnerable system so guys we have
two videos coming up the first one the video is just a tour of free geek and
what they do here and all the different stations they have should be really fun
and then the second one is just kind of like a moving Vlog style look at uh what
our crew did while we were volunteering here today being hopefully mostly
helpful with the exception of Taran and uh should just be kind of kind of a fun
little video so make sure you don't miss all at one station right now I I'm not
sure I think they're they're winding down I think they're heading out pretty quick anyway but um all right let's move
on shall we move on to our next uh wow topic here yes yes this is uh this is
kind of this is kind of a this is a thing California wants to ban encrypted
smartphones the idea isn't like oh terrorism we need to ban the encryptions
cuz the terrorists will encrypt the the ideas for the bombs no it's apparently
for a human trafficking thing did you like my yes I did I quite liked
it it was apparently for human trafficking so the idea is that a a a
smartphone manufacturer that is trying to sell stuff in California would be
able to uh would have to set in the ability for a device to be decrypted and
unlocked by its manufacturer or by its operating system provider so iOS or uh
Android whatever yeah yeah I mean you know what
there's a lot of the encryption argument
is not as simple and not as cut and
dried as a lot of people would make it out to be with that said I cannot get
behind legislative movements that would
make encryption illegal um I do
understand the argument that you know the the the purchase and sale of human
people something an industry that is very much alive and well you know as
much as as much as we'd all love to pretend that you know the um the issue
with black slavery in the United States was the end of it uh it was not by any
stretch of the imagination the end it was a travesty then it's a travesty now
um and it's absolutely disgusting in any in any shape or form um and is not good
and to look at it and go you know well the fact that there's these
encrypted Communications and these encrypted devices that these people are
utilizing to circumvent the law and keep these people from from regaining their
freedom is disgusting but um again I
really don't think the answer is to Outlaw encryption and to put and to put
the decryption of said device in the hands of the manufacturer where quite
frankly what is the regulation yeah basically none and like the the idea of
sacrificing Liberty for other things is maybe something that's a little bit too
advanced for our show and we probably shouldn't even be talking about that but
yeah I don't know so um yeah I was expecting those
comments were going to come up yeah okay
I I said I said black the same way that
I will say white or brown because it's short it's a single syllable it has
nothing to do with political correctness or nonpolitical correctness it's out of convenience
Samsung has taken to has been taken into court by a Dutch consumer Watchdog over
failing to update its phones there's an official statement
from Samsung it's pretty long so give me a sec at Samsung we understand that our
success depends on customer or consumer's trust in us and the products
and services that we provide that is why we have made a number of commitments in
recent months to better inform consumers about the status of security issues and
the measures we are taking to address those issues data security is a top
priority and we work hard every day to ensure that the devices we sell and the
information contained on those devices is safeguarded so so what I don't think
they said anything a really long blur they said
nothing they committed nothing all they said is data security is a top priority
and we work hard every day we try really hard hopefully that's
good enough um well it isn't just
throwing that out there and also that whole statistic that we covered on the W
show not that long ago where it's like wow Android phones suck for security Yep
they're like actually the bomb like like they explode in your face no they don't
they don't explode in your face but but they figuratively explode in your pants
which is a different explosion that's I
don't think twitch actually allows they have security problems they have
security problems so basically all I
have to really say about this article is
good on on you I would like to see every
consumer Watch Dog organization run around and nailing these cell phone
companies for not providing updates for their phones because quite
frankly even on Flagship class devices
we're talking devices with a bomb cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to
40% of the price that the consumer is actually paying for it where they're
literally bringing in hundreds of dollars of profit per device even on
Flagship devices it is rare to see an Android smartphone maker support it for
longer than about a year if you are a
year to two years if you're lucky past the EOL date and then that's a huge
problem because you know what if you don't buy it immediately on launch yeah
that's that's it's so yes because a lot
of the time it actually the support seems to have more to do with the launch
date that is a very good point than to do with the EOL date uh whereas the way
and I I know I always pointed apple as and they're not a perfect shining
example in fact I watched a great just
fantastic video on YouTube by all I wish
hold one second one second if you guys are just going to hang around and chat
please do it over there it's probably too loud for the twitch
chat I know oh they're working okay yeah that's fine well not everyone was I
wasn't addressing everyone um so I watched this great video by a guy who
works in um like in an Apple repair like Apple products repair shop he's got this
microscope and he kind of he kind of walks you through it's about an hourong
video but I sat and watched Jam near the whole thing which is very unusual for me
and he walks you through this you watch like 30% of my Oculus video yeah I I
will finish it um I don't watch much YouTube sorry anyway he does a
motherboard repair on a MacBook while spending the entire time talking about
the way that Apple has made and continues to make difficult the lives of
the people who repair and refurbish their products oh I've seen this
intentionally yeah was it was excellent wasn't it and he basically goes well
they could provide me with this fantastic diagram that tells me exactly
what all these components are and what they do and how I can repair them but
they don't they give it to the Apple Store who uses it to do nothing who uses
it to just plug into a a a console and
say replace whereas he's like I could
take that information and I could solder a new wire over your precious black
clean PCB that you don't want a bunch of wires running around on and I could fix
that computer and he brought up some really interesting points things that I
didn't realize like for example and you can pardon my ignorance here please I
didn't know that the iPhone 5S if you replace the phone button or the the
phone button the home button well it is kind of the only button on an iPhone if
you replace the home button on it touch ID goes away I did not know that the
home button is one of the most common things that needs to be repaired on an
iPhone the bloody things break all the time and it's like only Apple
if they repair your home button can keep Touch ID functionality
working and I was like really why
because the encryption is on a chip in the phone there is no reason there is
nothing that is anything to do with that button that would make it so you
couldn't do that and so okay so so
coming back to my point the point is not that apple is some kind of shining
example for you know being pro consumer
consumer rights and there's a lot of arguments being made that they
intentionally slow down their phones something I don't necessarily actually
buy because something a lot of people don't really consider in all of that is
that there's a lot more to faster phones than just a faster processor and more
RAM there's the fact that storage mobile
storage has improved by Leaps and Bounds
drives in their new phones that's right by Leaps and Bounds over the last few
Generations what do you want Apple to just not build in any new functionality
that takes advantage of the new phones no I don't necessarily expect that
um but compared to apple and the Android
ecosystem is just a complete mess with some phones coming out with a given
Android operating system that might not even be the most recent one and then
never ever even being updated
so headphones like that yeah so I've got a couple of uh yeah I've got a couple
couple of more notes on this so it's the
consum bond whatever okay that's I'm sure that's Bond yeah I'm sure that's a
Dutch word that I just butchered just now uh so it's a nonprofit that looks
after the interests of consumers in the Netherlands so they're taking Samsung to
court over failure to provide updates in a timely manner they reached out to
Samsung on December the 2nd in an absence of a proper response they issued
injunctive relief proceedings against Samsung so they say that 82% of Samsung
phones it checked were not updated within 2 years of their
introduction yeah not surprising Samsung's a huge part of that uh Android
ecosystem and probably a huge part of that percentage that we found of
unsecured phones a lot of people that I talk to think that it's an apple or a
Galaxy actually like like when we were at CES a lot of people were saying uh
Apple or Samsung yeah yeah y do you have a Samsung oh yeah yeah when I was at
when I was at a booth for a battery that was heat that would heat up I don't even
know if it ended up being one of our top five like a hand warmer yeah like I was
like do you have a Samsung I was like No And then I like pull up my phone he's
like oh you have a Samsung I'm like no it's a Sony like but it's a Samsung I'm
like and that's no it's not like oh you're a you're an idiot because you
don't realize that you know an Android phone doesn't have to be a Samsung the
reality of it is is that's probably all that most normal consumers have really
seen I mean Samsung owns a huge chunk of
the Android market so yeah basically what the the
Dutch Watchdog is asking is for Samsung to support every device it sells for 2
years regardless of how old it
is very very interesting so that would
mean they would have to support starting at the EOL date rather than the
introduction date and it would mean that they can't just provide like one or two
updates on a flagship if you guys are going to release a model then you better
actually support it something that could be a big problem for Samsung because we've seen this they take that you know
throw the pot of spaghetti at the wall and then figure out which noodles stick
and kind of you know support that those ones approach and that's not going to
fly if you have to actually properly support your devices you're going to
have to actually oh I don't know figure out what people want and build that
instead of just building you know do you remember that weird phone that they did
for old people the like the Galaxy um a
the Galaxy it was like didn't have the custom operating system and stuff and it
was really large it was huge and it was like right around the time they introduced easy mode yeah easy mode and
it had like a 720p screen I I can't remember what it was program I should
have said yeah I'm sure that twitch chat is telling me all about it right now but
it was just it was just like hilarious and they were like yeah it's like the
smartphone for people who don't see very well I'm like really how many of those
are you going to sell like like did you did you actually survey like senior
citizens and ask them if they want this cuz I'm willing to bet they don't I'm
willing to bet they don't want it don't improve your glasses buy a special smartphone the
Galaxy Mega that's the one thank you to uh I can't read your name it's in lime
green and it's on a white background so Galaxy Mega were Don yeah the G it's
like a small tablet barely a small tablet I think it was like a 6 and 1/2
in device or something ridiculous like
that all right um this next is
interesting so uh the Apple to Widow and
this isn't exactly how they said it at all but this is the title I guess Apple
to Widow want your dead husband's password get a court order um a Canadian
Widow is locked in a battle with apple over her dead husband's password for
their iPad um she is stated saying where is it
she just want she used to play games on it or something and now she can't which
sounds a little weird cuz she would have probably needed the password for that um
well yes and no I mean like again like
we take for granted as tech savvy people
that you want to figure out how to do things yourself not everyone's like that
some people would just be like hey hubby unlock this for me I'm going to do a
thing or like who knows like maybe like I'm just guessing but I'm just I'm
coming up with plausible reasons why she might not why she might not care maybe
she's not that mobile maybe he brought it to her every
time right like there's a lot of reasons
why you know and people take care of each other like that's fair you know my
my wife doesn't really know how to turn on our entertainment system it's really
complicated she says it's complicated which is of course a load of nonsense
but um okay doesn't necessarily work all the time that is a valid observation
about our entertainment setup it's funny cuz the more it's probably a valid
observation about like everything that they have at their house but that's a perfect example you got to remember for
some people unlocking an iPad is about as foreign as you know firing up her
receiver and selecting the right input for the is a technological system well
lonus is probably changed it seven times in the last four months so who knows
what's going on right now am I wrong look at the
servers I knew he was I knew he was heading for this I knew he was going to
go after the server you know what that's it I Quit nope that's cool you do the
show yourself I'm not really too sure about this personally I think there's
some issues there like some people will stay together even if their relationship
isn't good and there could be private information on that iPad so I don't
actually really support the idea of just randomly getting access to all of the
things for the person that used to be your spouse that's actually kind of a
little odd in my opinion even in Apple's
terms and services Apple tnc's it says agree that your account is
non-transferable and that any rights to your Apple ID or content within your
account terminate upon your death upon receiving uh a copy of your death
certificate your account may be terminated and all content within your
account deleted I actually kind of agree with that because while yes she might
have been immobile and her husband may have brought her her things and let her
play the games on the tablet there could also be another story and I know I
probably sound like an saying that I agree with that I came back at
just the right moment you're an
wow I'm back though you're so rude I'm back I I I maybe I maybe I en
is that one of NC's professional LCDs
like an older one look how thick it is sorry sorry I'll let you finish your
story all of these are like that maybe it's just really
old okay go go ahead probably going with that one I was mostly done what I was
saying was in Apple's teas and C's if you die your account is closed y your
account isn't given to someone it is closed and I actually totally agree with
that while there is the possibility where it's like oh honey here play games
on the iPad I'm sorry that you are
having a not perfect day um it could also be something nefarious not not
every couple is doing super great when one of them passes and that's true um
but I mean the other thing that I kind of object to here is that with Apple
devices if they're locked to an Apple ID you can't even reset it so we're talking
about a physical device that gets bricked by that's a little Annoying yeah
yeah we're talking a physical device that is effectively bricked because
reset it I I would think they should be all the DAT should be wiped and apple
should help them reset it she should be able to play the games on the iPad Apple believes in privacy and encryption
totally get that totally respect that um but that doesn't mean that Hardware
should just be rendered worthless by um
someone passing away so yeah they in a
freaking storage room basically yeah yeah pretty much no it's uh it's it's
really cool we have videos coming about what exactly it is we're doing here and
they are going to be worthwhile speaking of Apple you know I
was actually going to say we should burn through our topics and then I was going
to say we should take turns going and finding cool stuff to talk about in the
in the warehouse here yeah so that was what I thought of while I was standing over there cool um so let's uh let's
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not a numbers person yes why is it easier if you're not a numbers person
because it's relative ease if you're a wicked numbers person the relative ease
with which you could whip through this stuff in a spreadsh relatively easier
yes not actually easier it's how much yeah it doesn't make it easier if you
are not a numbers person being a numbers person will still help you use fresh
books okay it's how much of an improvement you can expect yeah no I got
that it's just it's not fundamentally easy that's why I I read it the first
time I was like but but no no no I yeah no I I get
it I get where they're going I get where they're going with that yeah um Oh I
thought that was your comment no no no no that's that's fresh books' pitch um
so our our topic people posted in the
Forum so far are do sjr Aries creger um
Z mule and we've got oh yeah wkd Paul
and we've got Mr troll Mr troll Mr troll
no wait no we have Z mu again um so apparently Google paid apple one
billion one billion us to keep their
search bar on the iPhone holy actual crap hopefully Google
can play Firefox more so that Firefox stops telling me that if everyone
reading this donated $3 they wouldn't need to ask anymore well no that that
that deal is dead right Firefox is with Yahoo now for the long time no I know oh
yeah but like I think but wish that hadn't been a thing I think Yahoo isn't
paying them as much money probably because everyone's manually switching
their search back to Google anyways um so like the the aggressiveness of
Firefox asking for money is pretty intense and like I've I've actually
donated a relatively okay amount of money to Firefox and they're still like
actually that's probably why that's probably the reason cuz as soon as I donated to Wikipedia they harass me all
the time yeah uh same thing with BC Children's Hospital like I get letters
all the time I'm like uh Canadian Red
Cross actually they were really making me mad cuz I actually have a monthly
donation to them monthly every month and
all of a sudden they were calling me all the time they were like yo can you reup can you double up I'm like come on you
know why don't you go keep doing what you were doing going door to door like
someone came to my door and was like yo do you want to donate to the Canadian rad cross I'm like sure so go do more of
that find new donors like don't harass
the people who are already like yeah I think what you're doing is great because
you're going to lose my support I think I think there's like
there's a nice way to to to do that kind of stuff yeah um anyway so Apple
apparently received a billion from Google in 2014 to keep the search bar uh
according to the transcript of the Court proceedings from Oracle corpse lawsuit
against Google so Google has an agreement that gives Apple a percentage
of Revenue that Google generates through Apple devices at one time that share was
apparently 34% although we don't know like who got
the 34 yeah
the uh the attorney for Google tried to get the judge to strike the mention from
the record which did not work
obviously John is here is that just crazy what's that if someone had an
agreement where there was like we're sharing 34% of this profit thing and
someone was like can you just strike that from the agreement in court that's just never going to work right um not
unless there some sort of like exceptional circumstance or maybe
evidence that like that was just slipped in without the other party's knowledge
just something crazy yeah okay joh John assures us that would have been very
unlikely he's our he's our resident used
to know a thing or two about law before he became a Canadian um disclaimer not
liced to practice law yeah disclaimer not licensed to practice law in Canada
that's or California oh really well that we were talking about California oh we
were talking about California who cares okay you do I know because that's yeah
I'm sad
now we love you
John um Intel is rebuilding itself on
three pillars and the PC is apparently
not one of them so their three pillars are like Internet of Things server and
memory uh so yeah see so their CEO Brian
kranich said that the PC business provides a foundation of intellectual
property and a source of cash flow but it is not the sole driver of our growth
I actually read this article okay this is one where Colton's notes could have
been a little bit better uh because it was something along the lines of that
the PC is here I'm going to get B the
okay so already those three businesses
generated nearly 40% of Intel's revenue
and 60% of their operating
profits very very very interesting so
that's how Intel continues to grow lately in spite of the ever shrinking
demand for desktop PCS now I suspect
there's some chicken and egg going on here where if Intel was building
dramatically faster computers that enable dramatically uh different user
experiences there might be more demand for them but Intel also is not in
control of the the pace of the rest of
the industry so Intel can build as many 8 core CPUs as it wants but if no one is
building software that actually leverages all those threads then they're
basically just more cor sitting in your computer consuming power and doing
pretty much not a whole lot of anything which is a thing which I totally get uh
AMD's news is um they lost a lot of
money but like not as much but actually
more depending on how you want to compare it yeah yay
AMD um it is just kind of a miracle to
me that they enabling today inspiring tomorrow losing today losing money today
losing money tomorrow hopefully not losing money
anymore 3 days after tomorrow that's that's the goal so so you guys can check
out the numbers if you want as usual we're going to have all that stuff
linked but the long the long and the short of it is that um on a revenue of
just shy of 4 billion they were down 28%
year-over-year Revenue wise primarily due due to lower client processor sales
they had a gross margin of 27% down 6 percentage points year-over-year and due
to lower unit volumes this is due to lower unit volumes and product mix and
they had a net loss of 660 million on that $4 billion of
Revenue um which is yeah uh
okay
yep hopefully their processors and new gpus do well in the future yep I think
that we're all hoping for their upcoming gpus to absolutely rock the house that
would be really good and for their Zen processors to rock even more houses even
harder I yeah I agree with that statement too because of exactly what
Intel just did so that article was posted by Z the next one we have up here
also Z mule Z mu is like on fire this week I'm going to post all the Articles
cuz my name is z mu yeah that's what he sounds like yeah all right you hit this
he types that fast he's like okay so this is actually not that interesting
sorry crazy mule um it is in Rapid and
Colton it is in Rapid Fire on the thing
uh Oculus is founder so Palmer lucky is being sued for Stuff apparently he
worked for some company in 2011 who had
him produce some stuff and then now maybe that stuff is part of an Oculus or
maybe it's not we don't know all we know
at all is that a judge said like okay this can become something in court
lucky calls the lawsuit a Brazen attempt to secure for themselves a stake in
Oculus vr's recent multi-billion dollar acquisition by Facebook um so basically
doesn't seem to think a whole lot of it
yeah yep uh we've got another rapid fire topic w z mule again z z mu I am Z mule
I carry Al Z news things uh so here the
original article is from the J deck website these are the um presumably
super um cool at a party Engineers who
develop memory standards actually to be completely honest if I was at a party
and there was a jck engineer I would definitely probably hang out with them the entire time so I was actually okay
I'm going to I'm going to tangent just putting that out there and I know you've done that kind of stuff before too yep I
was at an ocz party where like some famous person like some rapper or
something I can't remember like actually a big deal was performing and I managed
to find um a guy who worked on the
original SATA specification um for then he like worked
at Marvel like during those years and like we he we were he like talked my ear
off about SATA the entire time we like found a quiet corner and and I was just
like so like tell me about this and tell me about that and like you know what
what makes it better than P how do we make it faster how do we keep making it
faster what's the future of Drive interfaces and and like like the okay
whatever Taran it was cool um so yes yes
as much as literally is wearing a shirt that says Talk Nerdy to Me and tries to
mock you with some guy talking nerdy to you yeah so anyway jck publishes gddr5x
Graphics memory standard so they're targeting data rates in the 10 to 14 GB
per second range which would be about a 2X increase over gddr5 now to be clear
this is not a replacement for hbm or hbm2 which is what you're going to see
on high-end graphics cards like AMD's current Fiji cards but rather um a
replace placement for the mid-range cards where you can't necessarily afford
the additional cost of Cutting Edge hbm memory nor would you necessarily see a
benefit from it because it's no secret that modern high-end cards are doing
just fine with gddr5 so it usually takes a few
generations for a mid-range or a low-end card to catch up to the performance of
an old high-end card so in theory we'd be good with slower memory for quite
some time well this is a way to address
that yeah um all right what else we got here
I think I'm just going to kind of um do you want to do the thing yeah yeah let's
do it why why don't why don't you go first while I do a little mini news
thing here so this was posted by that Norwegian guy the original article here
is wccf Tech and uh let me just put up my screen
capture here the GTX 970 now the most
popular graphics card on the steam survey
which I actually had a number of people in The Forum Thread about this say was
not interesting and not remarkable that is incredibly interesting and Incredibly
remarkable I don't remember the last time actually no I think probably the
last time we would have seen a current gen card like high-end card as a top
card on the steam survey would have been in the 8800 GT days and what you guys
need to also realize is the 8800 GT
was I think it was like it was $299 or
or something $249 I think it launched then it got jacked up to 299 and then
for like superclock or whatever it was up to like 349 don't don't quote me on
the exact numbers but it was a very very
reasonable price and delivered pretty much the same performance as the 8800
GTX that had come before it so that was
an extremely disruptive card the GTX
970 not not that disruptive compared to
NVIDIA's own lineup so the fact that it has sold so incredibly well no go ahead
I'm going to run and get one the fact that it has sold so incredibly well over
time really points to uh what a success
uh NVIDIA has been in creating and
marketing that card all right well you talk about what you found I'm going to
go find something cool if you guys want to find cool things then so I don't even
know like what entirely this is it has
little ARM things which seem to be able to operate so this one is like a clampy
ARM the other one is also a clampy ARM but it has like you could put something
in it and it would sit there I don't know how it operate like the ARM can
move it can reach out and grab things
and do whatever but realistically like
there's a huge thing in the back there's DC in I'm assuming the head turns
internally within the Dome the Dome doesn't turn itself but it's it's a tape
player so right now there is currently
um a depesh mode tape construction Time
Again by depesh mode so it's a tape player and a
robot I don't I don't know I don't I
don't know it's not for sale it's up in the store it's not for sale this is what
was actually right beside it so I'm going to take this away you're up all right okay so I found two things first
of all this awesome Coca-Cola phone that's not really that big of a deal put
replacement plates on phones was was a thing no no what I'm into right here is
this tashiba t1200 yes my
friends mechanical keyboard yeah that's
right LCD display with brightness
brightness knob wheel right here latching fold down
display LCD contrast wheel over here on
the left as well as ab and disc and reset whatever the devil all that is
we've got our 12vt input our power on and off switch as well as there's a hard
drive on and off switch which I think is fantastic the battery release button
here it's got a o printer port external floppy disc drive port a composite Port
uh key bad keypad Port o RGB I think did
they used to call V oh look at that that 3 and 1 12 inch floppy drive with 3 and
1/2 in expansion Bay below it this thing
is about as freaking vintage as it gets
made by the Toshiba Corporation and I
think John's got something John Sub in here man go for it tell them all about
what you found so I just found what
appears to be okay can you guys see me great I think this is the original Sound
Blaster it has oh hi Luke Luke is back
so it has a joystick Port okay it has an
old it has an old school joystick Port it has some sort of dial it has some
sort of like weird dial thing sticking out I guess that's for volume and
something called the talking parrot I'm get this mischievous parrot mimics your
speech talks back passes outrageous remark and screams when you tickle it so
it kind of sounds like the predecessor to bonsy Buddy except it won't install
like horrible malware on your system system that you can't get rid of uh yeah
system requirements dos 2.0 or higher
coming to a um coming to an egb or
excuse me an EG based Graphics system near you um so yeah you need 512 K
kilobytes of RAM minimum hold on there Luke make sure you have at least 512
kilobytes of RAM who has 512 kilobytes
of RAM I don't I heard that's all you'll ever need no Bill Gat said what it was
like 64 he never said that oh okay okay then
today I learned they have giant Stacks I only bought brought part of the giant
Stacks I don't even know if these are written yet probably not but they have giant stacks of all the Linux you could
need they have Ubuntu and I believe mint you can come here and get a free disc
and then one thing that I like is going to be kind of hard to show but I'll get
it up there giant bin of CPU yeah you
can you you can see it show them the Pentium Pro show them the Pentium Pro
and they can't hear you remember cuz the mic's over here check out that Pentium
Pro yeah boy yeah
boy okay okay I've got I've got two I
cheated I brought two things I brought two things oh you brought two things too
okay okay mine right here this my friends is the 3D mouse 3D mouse it had
it's made by A4 teex since 1987 feel the
noiseless Comfort it's actually got like a a thing through the package so you can
spin the scroll wheel check this out DPI 520 which is 30% faster than 400 DPI wow
wow amazing enjoy quiet scrolling
without distracting noises 3D mouse
wow also does it go in the Z Direction and also X no it does not it doesn't do
Z it just does X and Y how is it a 3D here show show show them the close-up of
the package the package is so amazing FOC yeah it's it's fine it's fine yeah
uh shift it down a little bit it's got a reflection there uh the other way there
you go okay check that out DPI 520 is
30% faster than 400 DPI my friends yes
my friends wow indeed okay okay check this out check this up this is okay
you're my van and white right now I think this is higher there you go this
is before the AOL the AOL CD became a
thing okay that is an AOL 3 and 1/2 in
floppy disette yes my friends that is a
great value right there I can let that go for as little as
99.95 yes that can be done in seven easy
payments of2 $100 going once going twice gone my
sanity is gone thank you thank you for that did you find something John get in
there all right go go go so I also this is another fantastic
thing I found you guys remember this it's one of those old slot style Pentium
2os and thank you Taran and if I recall
correctly I think this is the only the
only ever the only slot style um consumer CPU that Intel ever produced
and a hey lonus um correct me if I'm
wrong on this but wasn't this basically just a Pentium 3 without some like
instruction set extension like I don't
remember actually that is you're going back so far that before my time the
performance isn't too far off from a Pentium 3 but it comes in this really
cool slot that has a shiny thing on it and they just don't make him like that
anymore unfortunately the penum
2 can you sit down I I can sit down okay
they can't he I'm talking for Luke can they see it on the screen uh yeah you
hold it higher up yeah right there that's a whole bunch of RAM 2 gab
minimum capacity 2 gab minimum capacity
ECC memory you're just going to have to talk louder I can't I'll do it all right
so that is a bucket of two gig sticks of
ddr2 ECC RAM server RAM right there a
lot of those look like fully buffered dims if uh if have those heat sinks on
them yes my friends that is a very very
small fraction of the random RAM that they have around here they got
everything check this out new sealed Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Enterprise Edition brand new sealed
Adobe Photoshop
CS4 what else you got over there oh that
is a doozy of a that is a doozy of a keyboard this my friends Commodore 64
keyboard it's got the green sticker on it so that means it
works I mean look at this this has keys that run stop like I are you kidding me
control Port one control Port two this is this is pre my days like my family
had a Commodore but that was when I was at an age where I would not I would not
remember such a thing I mean commodor they counted like Microsoft F1 F3 F5 F7
it's like Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox one it's
did no one knows how to count in the computer industry it's absolutely
amazing so I think uh I think we're going to get kicked out of here pretty
soon so we're not going to we're not going to carry on too much longer but if
Luke and John find one more thing each we can uh we can show you guys some
other cool relics here but don't miss oh wow oh wow Taran brought yeah okay well
this is worth waiting around for
guys this am I holding it up correctly
can they hear you yeah yeah it's good it's good they can see it okay so this
is this was actually donated as is except for probably the free geek
sticker that's sitting in there it's FedEx shipping boxes that someone made
rotated around y that someone made into a computer case that's still holding
together it was properly water cooled at one point it's been slightly taken apart
so it's not exactly functional this moment but it could work if you just
kind of hook some things up and probably replace the fluid so yeah people can get
creative I don't know that's pretty crazy so
someone ran this as their computer is it a fire hazard maybe to a certain degree
but uh it worked that's this is the best thing ever it worked taking a picture it
did work this is another one of those like actually not for sale things and if
Taran dropped it it would be very
bad oh I was just going to go on the other side yeah that's
fine okay so uh thank you guys very much
all 8600 of you for tuning in to the W
Show broadcast to you live here at
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the time here to help these guys you know refurb computers and help out
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with these guys and spending some time uh some labor time we have also
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businesses have real expenses that they actually legitimately have to pay I
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have not done it yet we won't be doing it yet we're waiting for some accounting
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know 20 20 200 batting 200 I remember
how that works we're batting 200 for actually broadcasting the W show
together from the normal location twice
that no that means uh 20%
for the last five shows we've only 500 is like
perfect is even 5050 Yeah so basically
they moved the decimal over two places for no apparent reason yeah that's
really weird yeah so that's weird go baseball why' you do that America all
right thanks for tuning in guys no after no after party today
unfortunately we have to pack up and go no I will be doing a thing but no after
party today we have to pack up and go so you go ahead and say I will doing a
thing Afterparty thing on my twitch Channel but not for like a while cuz
we're in Vancouver really far away from home so yay don't wait for
it
get looks cool
oh that's the desktop backround yeah it's the background oh oh that's easy
that is easy oh whoops I should turn off the show camera