May 31, 2013 Live Stream Archive
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2014-05-07
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12,345 words · ~61 min read
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all right guys welcome to the live stream sorry for the late start uh
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honestly excuses aside this is my excuse
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it has been the craziest week ever
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at Linus media group it has actually been
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10 minutes yeah like i i've i think i've slept about
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five hours the last two nights combined you probably haven't done that much
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better not much better a little bit but not much better so for those of you who
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haven't been paying attention to the videos lately in the last two weeks
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we've had gtx 780 launch gtx 770 launch
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um in the next week there's a major
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launch coming from Intel
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i mean well is there any point even okay haswell
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launching it computex AMD's richland apu's are launching
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sometime in the next week uh something else is going oh right well
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we've been packing to go to computex we're moving we're moving so
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there's a video up on the channel right now showing our new digs
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uh so so we've we've partially moved
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it's amazing we're still alive never mind that we're streaming
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this could be a recording and we're actually dead right now or we are in the very process of dying
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and this is the last footage this could be like because you know there's always
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like the last picture yeah or like like like the album of like the scraps
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that they recorded and weren't good enough but then they can like yeah cash
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money yeah or like uh tolkien's like scribblings that they apparently turned
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into a movie at some point
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no come on some of the stuff in the hobbit
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is unacceptable a pretty good movie though i still liked the movie spoiler alert
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no there's dumb stuff okay yeah that was it
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look at what he's doing i know he's like playing with the backpack
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i don't even have the uh i don't even have the live stream sheet up here but
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oh you know what it's okay is my word is keyboard working i don't think so i
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don't know if it's from oh there's a light on it there's a light on it that's usually a good sign
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yeah not working all right
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okay so we'll just have to lean forward and operate the computer there but uh
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let's get into it so topic number one is Linus media group at computex and yeah
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we're gonna do the build logs from last week don't worry we know it cut out uh
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salinas media group at computex um if you saw any of our ces coverage then
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you'll probably have some idea what's coming a lot is coming however there are
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going to be some changes this time around so number uno
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is that oh crap
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i don't know if our wi-fi is working hopefully it is i'm on wi-fi okay have
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you noticed that i'm streaming that's good that's a good strategy okay
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um cool so that's right so there's going to
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be a couple changes number one is we're taking a larger group this time so it's
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going to be me slick diesel
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and b-roll so we're going to have four people so
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instead of having one team of four people that's responsible for running
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around and doing meetings and running around to suites and going to the show
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floor and like doing all this crazy stuff we're gonna be mostly focused on
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covering the show we're going to do a little bit of more like uh travel
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blogging while we're there this is going to be the first time either i or slick
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have ever been to asia so evidently they have food there
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and that's something that you should try or
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shouldn't try either way it'll be hilarious yeah blind taste testing of food is
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probably gonna be i don't know if i'm comfortable with that really i don't
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know if i trust diesel we won't we should probably get b-roll to do it
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yeah because i think b-roll would actually try to not harm us
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yeah i don't know if i could trust these will not actually hurt us yeah
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like he it might be just like maybe it's like 20 minutes of intense pain
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but like i think he'd be okay without dying yeah yeah i don't think he tried
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to kill us but like if we were uncomfortable i think he
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would that would that would float his boat a little bit fine yeah um
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so we'll we'll see on that one but we're going to do that we're also going to be doing
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some crazy giveaways so
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along with sort of the the okay so there's a 4770k giveaway right now and
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that one you have to sign up sometime and i think you've got like two days to
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retweet this tweet and then post your link in the forum and show us that you
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did it and then you have a chance to win a 4770k uh there's four htc phones we're
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giving away over the next month htc was just phenomenally generous with that one
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i mean four phones they were like oh do you want to do a giveaway i'm like yeah
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that'd be kind of cool they're like how's four phones i'm like
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uh yeah let's get this going because the forums growing really fast they want to
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support the community and then timmytechtv so youtube.com timmytechtv
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go subscribe any subscriber of timmytechtv who is also a member of the
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Linus tech tips forum can have a chance to win of course their 900d canada and
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us only for that one though um okay so we've got all those giveaways in
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addition to that i have a video that i'll be releasing later tonight
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that has over ten thousand dollars in prizes that western
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digital is helping us source and and
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give away through the Linus tech tips forum um in a dish in in exchange for
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hitting certain view targets so you guys gotta all work with me here and share
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the content that we make from the wd booth and computex because the more
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views we get the more amazing crazy stuff that we get to give away in the
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few weeks after we get back from computex so
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guys watch the video tonight make sure that you uh make sure you check that out
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also it's like just a ridiculous video it's the stupidest thing we've ever made
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by far superman helmet dress axe yeah
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all these words they don't make any sense right now and they won't make any sense later
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like at all yeah just
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uh so computex show coverage you guys also said that you liked some of the
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coverage that slick did at ces so slick
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covered uh sony's big tv thing or samsung's big tv thing rather than
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the uh the tv that was like going to redefine
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redefine the like the aspect ratio of your tv but it's actually a display
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thing just on it's like it was like virtual art was digital signage and it
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was just rotated i was like really it's like oh
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people have already done this rain hurts um like i remember back when
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i got my 9600 all in wonder built into the driver you could right
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click and rotate your display 20 degrees
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and i was like oh that's kind of cool and then i never used it because why would you well digital science digital
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signage yes and like there's some i know sometimes
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um like like programmers and stuff and
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people that read read it a lot those are the only two people i know that do this but you just like if you're a hardcore
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enough redditor that your monitor is right now
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like in one internet for you people do that
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oh i believe it i believe it um and like i've seen where someone will have like
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monitor like this and then monitor like this on each side
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so they can have like their main viewing monitor for games or whatever and then
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like reddit code or whatever reddit like certain
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things that go very well vertically awesome like people do it okay so the
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thing we're doing differently you guys said you liked slick's content so we are
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gonna be splitting into two teams team a is gonna be me and diesel and we
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are gonna go around and do all the really cool stuff and then
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i mean i mean well come on no it's true probably i just didn't have to say it
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you're just gonna shotgun everything but i wanted to say it yeah so so we're
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gonna have an a team and a b team so diesel and i are gonna do our own thing
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covering the show and then slick and b-roll are gonna be the b team and let
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me tell you there is going to be some heavy competition between a team and b
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team for who gets like the coolest content to bring to you guys and who's
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driving you know the most engagement from the viewers and the most excitement
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and sort of covering the show best for you guys i
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expect now we did 56 videos at ces if i
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recall correctly i will be floored if we don't bring you guys another 50 or 60
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videos from computex giving you the most complete coverage that we possibly can
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so many of you just really inspired us with your comments on the ces coverage
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so i really wanted to do it again considering knowing you it's going to be
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a competition there's probably going to be more than that
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yeah yeah probably yeah yeah and i i mean just one more thing that i want to
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say is in addition to the prices that wd is providing us to give away wd is our
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gold sponsor our main sponsor for our trip to computex they've been phenomenal
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they are the reason that we are able to go we do have a couple other sponsors so
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corsairs vengeance peripherals are well okay Corsair but uh we're going to be
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talking mostly about their vengeance gaming peripherals they are contributing
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in a big way to having us there as well and we're actually going to be doing some coverage of their overclocking
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event while we're over there and then our third sponsor is none other than
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ncix.com a store that if you follow me you have probably heard of
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probably mostly they're in canada i'm in canada which makes sense also they have
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computer stuff that's yeah they kind of have all the computer
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stuff yeah and they ship worldwide now so there
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these are all good things so so it's going to be western digital Corsair and
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ncix powering our trip to computex in fact we're even going to be producing
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some ncix tech tips videos that we're going to send back to those guys so they
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can put it on the nci xcom channel if you're not subscribed to ncix tech tips
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make sure you do that because some of our content is going to go over there
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for ncix so that they have some awesome coverage of the show as well
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i think that was pretty much all i wanted to say look you can see rumble moving behind you just over your
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shoulder in the camera yeah right here yeah yeah it's like it's like rumble
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what's your problem honey you wanna come visit
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yeah you want to visit come on come here he's having trouble finding a
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path come on come on so okay our next topic is going to be
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build logs of the week but for last week we may do a bit of a shorter live stream
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this week guys just because we are supposed to be at the airport in six
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hours um and we i don't know about you but i haven't really packed
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uh i've packed a little bit yeah not nearly enough i
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packed all the super obvious stuff yeah so like the actual hard part of packing
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still has to be done yeah like the part where it's like did i remember my
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toothbrush because that would be bad
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those kinds of things like i have a list down there on the floor that's all the things that i need to
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pack and i like have none of them so yeah so we have to we have to actually
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pack um and i mean we have to try to pack things that neither
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hi sweetie you want kisses
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you want to come visit he's like where are you going yeah i know oh he was so
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cute last night um my wife had my
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suitcase open on the floor and every time he sees that suitcase i i think he
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knows that i'm going somewhere because it's never her who goes anywhere and he
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goes and he sits himself in the suitcase until it gets so full to the point where
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you have to physically remove him from it to put more stuff in it and then he
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goes and sits on the stuff in it until you close it
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it's so cute it's like please i i can has come with you please
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oh poor baby he's gonna be so lonely
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oh sweetheart okay i know anyone who thinks cats don't care
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about their owners has not met this particular cat because
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valid comparison against dogs though he loves he loves very deeply
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come on rumble's also kind of different i haven't met very many rumble special
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tacular yeah okay so right build log all right let's
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switch to scene whatever it is nope wow what is this for a limited time
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and then you did that last week too what is this because your tactical rifle
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totally needed an iphone stretch oh i know what it is it's because we oh oh
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rumble please don't walk on that keyboard nope nope
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it's because we disconnect this monitor in between streams that's the problem
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so so the thing that happens is uh don't
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mess up the nice pro art uh okay well i can't figure out how this
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is gonna work so whatever let's talk about we just open it yeah build logs
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that's going to give really crappy pictures yep oh wow
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well i guess you guys will have to uh you guys will have to sort of get the
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point here so this is silent cure by jim
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star87 now we are using a bit of a different
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method for showing build logs of the week these days because it was very very
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sort of brutal and time consuming to show them the way that they were before
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and we've had problems with them just crashing the stream out right due to
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i don't know just complete and utter stupidity that we
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can't figure out so uh slick you want to cover this one
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all right so basically this one's just absolutely insane if you pay attention
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to the color of the liquid you could tell that he actually has two loops
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going on you're pointing with your finger at the screen again
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he has two loops going on so you see all the blue tubing and then there's green
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here there's another reservoir that's off the screen over here in the front of
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his case and there's pump pump SSD
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there's just one of the reasons why i like this build so much is just just so
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much stuff usually when we get build logs of the week that we pick um there's
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just a graphics card that's when he's got a graphics card a sound card three
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reservoirs two pumps ssds all over the place if you go check his actual build
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log there's even more he's got tracers because more lights
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might as well do it he's got just tracer memory yeah yeah that's what you
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meant he's got all the different colored everything and
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i believe those are uv lights i don't remember it's a very very low res image
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yeah awesome awesome awesome rig though guys go check it out and make sure that
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you're following the build log section of the forum and then our next one here
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neon splash by crab creations and google
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drive completely butchered the colors on this one oh did it really yeah that's
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actually really unfortunate okay hold on let's see if we can figure this out guys
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we've never really tried this before if you if you download it
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how do you how do you download it file right here
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yeah okay open so
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oh you made it a powerpoint yeah why'd you make it a powerful we talked about
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this and we decided to make it a powerpoint well i didn't decide that you
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did oh for crying out loud the slideshow is playing on our other monitor because
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it's the primary monitor it's probably bigger you're going to be freaking kidding me oh there you go wow that's
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gorgeous yeah so it's crazy he's sticking up look at the stickers on the
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side he's sticking up his graphics card but
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uv lights all over the place his power supply has freaking like orange and
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green uv sleeving on it it's
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nuts both the builds this week were just like tripping balls yeah just completely
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tripping balls so another very cool build he has stuff
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that doesn't appear in the picture just like the previous guy so please go to
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the forum check out the build logs of the week thread that windspeed created
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and view these guys actual builds because like this guy changed the led of
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his power button to yellow and like changed the window and changed
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the stripping on the window and like he did a bunch of other stuff just because
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it wasn't ridiculous enough yet might as well add more craziness and the previous
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one had a whole bunch of other things as well so please actually check those both
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out now i've seen some complaints that we're not doing enough twitter q a so
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someone's suggestion was that we do like uh like like twitter blitz where we
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answer as many questions as we can for five minutes so guys
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send your questions we promise not to get sidetracked we're gonna do one topic
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then we're going to go to twitter and we're going to burn our way through as many of them as we can
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now we're going to have people trying to side track us with like huge topics we're going to
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ignore huge topics because we're not going to be able to tell we'll give super short very annoying answers yeah
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we'll be like no pasta pasta you just copied me
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that was my idea pasta lasagna that is
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i haven't fired you in a while but
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you're getting close i liked that answer it was good
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it was good yeah but it's my answer
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in a slightly different way okay so let's do let's do a short news item
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while we uh while we wait to move on to that so we're going to close this uh
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this thing no remove the files i've saved the files i need all right so
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google has basically come out and said
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if governments want google to pay more taxes they should change their tax laws
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he has a good point well hold on you should explain the context of the article so this is an article from
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bgr.com and go because you brief
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yourself on this one more than me uh google facebook whole bunch of other
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companies have different ways of
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legal tax evasion and they've got a bit of a reputation like you know the
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general sort of person kind of looks at and goes well i have to pay taxes why
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don't these massive corporations with their buckets and buckets of money have
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to pay taxes well because they know legal ways to not
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pay taxes they're not actually breaking the law they're just doing a whole bunch
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of shady things that you wouldn't think are legal
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and you wouldn't think you should be able to do them but they are able to do
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them so basically google is saying why should we
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like just pay random money when we're following the law already
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why shouldn't you change your laws so it actually makes us do this but i mean i
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think there's a fear that changing the laws will drive that business out of the
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countries but on the other hand i mean you look at and you go well what is you know google
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going to pack up and like move their hq to nigeria i don't think so
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um like there's countries in the world that don't have taxes i mean what so
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they basically said if the british system changes the tax laws then we will
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comply this doesn't only apply to great britain though i mean this is uh this is
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just in general there's a lot of ways to okay so here for example i know that if
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you're a homeowner and you can re-configure
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your down payment for another place and you can sort of tinker around with the
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system there's a way that you can pay off your mortgage using pre-tax income
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rather than using after-tax income which here in canada is about we we get
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anywhere between about 27 and about 40 percent personal income tax before any
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sales tax so just like right off the top so being able to do that would allow you
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to pay down your mortgage much faster and the problem is just that
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most people don't know these tricks but when you're a huge company and it
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actually costs less to hire a team of lawyers for several millions of dollars
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per month than it would to pay those taxes which would be potentially tens or
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even hundreds of million dollars or whatever whatever it would work out to
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then that's the way you go and at the end of the day the only ones
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getting rich in the world as far as i can tell are couriers and lawyers yeah
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and they're in like cahoots oh yeah you know how you still have to courier
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around legal documents
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i'm on to you guys
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oh man um okay so let's do our let's do
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our twitter did you have anything to add to that one at all
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uh no not really okay well we agree actually i don't think we ever said that
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yeah no yeah we we kind of agree he has a point if the laws are wrong and the
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laws are antiquated and there are loopholes it's
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it it is what it is it's like if a restaurant says all you can eat and
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someone comes in and eats all they can eat and then the restaurant's like well we
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didn't want you to take that much food it brings up the same like if if you
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could apply the logic where it's like oh they should just do it or whatever then
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unlimited data how unlimited data isn't actually unlimited i hate that yeah
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unlimited anything where it's like unlimited yeah it's actually 2 000. i'm
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like well that's not actually unlimited
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so there you go uh okay so
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twitter q a time
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let's go ahead and i think my phone battery just died
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all right so okay Corsair k60 or question mark um neither
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of us are really cherry mx red guys so i think we would probably go question mark
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however the k60 does have some cool things about it um
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i've really liked the build quality for example i think that metal backplate
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that's absolutely gorgeous you should but if i was going to do it i'd go k70
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you should yeah you should go to a store you should try
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and get them to find keyboard boxes that don't have stickers or anything or or
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wrapping so that you can open them and you should try all the different switches before making a decision yeah
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because just because we don't prefer reds doesn't mean that a lot of people
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don't prefer reds because a lot of people do yep okay why don't we do these
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uh why don't we do these sort of one one after the other so you do the next one
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thoughts on use thoughts on ufc favorite fighters
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uh georgetown pierre capture the news
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what's richland they exist yeah they're slightly better than the
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old ones yeah but not by a ton well they're technically still under embargo
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i think but whatever
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okay any plans for budget builds on ncix linguine um
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yeah i don't know what to tell you about that because i don't really understand
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what you mean okay he doesn't do those i'm up next yeah i think he's talking
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about the pre-done oh yeah no i don't configure those anymore um
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okay which is better for gaming and color repli production tft panel or ips panel
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tft is just another way of saying lcd and an ips is a type of lcd so
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he's probably talking about ta tn tn there we go yeah he probably means
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tn so tn is technically better for gaming because of faster pixel response
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times but ips is way better for color reproduction and you can get some ips
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panels that have really really good response time okay uh you're up
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can i get a shirt uh happy birthday kadeem something terrick asks why are
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you setting up your business in another house and not leasing a commercial space
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um well for investment reasons so in the
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in the longer term i can't afford to actually buy a commercial space that's
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big enough for what we'd need but not so small that
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it's just kind of stupid and has no sort of exit strategy
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whereas a home is pretty easy to deal
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with particularly here in the lower mainland where
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for all the talk about the bubble bursting it it still hasn't
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so they've been talking about bubble bursting for years and it hasn't come to it i mean it might at some point but the
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reality of it is i can absorb it anyway so see how it goes
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here you go how much did you budget for your overall build if you want to include a 70 780 go
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you can variable it quite a bit what i would do is go to any website and add it
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to the cart add the applicable processor so depending on if you're gaming or not
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you're getting an i5 or an i7 and then build around it and just
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try to figure it out okay what would you what would you tell someone
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eighteen hundred two grand eighteen hundred two grand i'd say you could probably do it for and 50. probably but
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you're sacrificing quite a few you're probably sacrificing but if you were willing to put it in like a cardboard
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box yeah and honestly you could build a build around a 780 and like ignore a
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case with a little bit build it on top of your motherboard and then like you
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can get a few things at the end like get your case get some more fans like you can finish the build later because 780
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is pretty freaking awesome uh sheldon says slick is a hologram and your wall
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needs an isotropic filtering i think it stops slick is actually fired that's why
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he's a hologram oh what uh
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quick go go should i have to go okay why don't i read out the questions because
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you can't read them from here can you no not very well i kind of can but it's
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just should i upgrade to a 780 or buy another 680
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uh with all the things going with the sli although sli is not having as many
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problems as crossfire not nearly as many yeah and with how absolutely insanely
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beast mode 780 has been i would probably go for 780 and sell the 680 so get some
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of your return on that i don't know much about sound cards what
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do i need to look for when buying one buy an ASUS zonar get the best one that
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you can afford in your price range good to go
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if you can get sorry read it flashing your router with custom firmware do it
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or not if you can get ddwrt or tomato it's freaking awesome do it okay
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why does slick shirt look all funny on the stream we don't know
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when are you getting your hands on the gtx 790 uh we can't comment on
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unreleased products thoughts on alps key switches i saw this
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one so i was saving this one for you and i haven't actually used any but from
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what i've heard they're pretty good but most people seem to prefer a certain
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type of cherry as far as i have seen but again no personal usage speaking of
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which i asked cooler master we can get cherry mx greens as soon as they stop
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selling every single one that hits their warehouse i've heard about that so there
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you go um joshua what will you name your new
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place Linus media group hq is boring call it something like Linus's awesome
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unboxing cave um
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uh i i don't know um someone asks favorite thread on the
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forum uh i think i like the memes thread gotta be the meme side also
26:17
slick take off your shirt expose your nips
26:23
no will you get an easy 87 MSI motherboards um should at some point we
26:28
don't have any yet we're mostly focused on ASUS for this launch
26:33
um alexa 780. oh i didn't read it yet what
26:37
do you like about the new NVIDIA 700 series graphics card slick 780 is an
26:42
absolute beast if you check out benchmarks it basically ties or comes
26:46
slightly below titan many times and the price delta between those two makes it a
26:50
very very good choice other than that we haven't had a ton of experience with
26:53
them okay should i wait for 800 series to arrive or go with 700 series choice
26:57
is yours no one knows how the 800 series will perform so and no one knows when
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it's coming so yeah no one knows
27:05
esther and crazy russian at an AMD event when are you gonna visit markham ontario
27:08
i'll take this one um no idea the google tax law thing was because
27:12
they want a level playing field yeah good yes
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how often should you upgrade your system to stay competitive in modern games go
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uh usually i find around two and a half three years however that's changing
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yeah which will lead us into our next real topic so
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um okay do you want me to cover how that's changing sure okay so that's changing
27:34
because it used to be that things were altering the landscape
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was altering so fast that by the time
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you know two years had rolled around we'd seen a couple major major
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improvements in either CPU performance or GPU performance and sometimes both to
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the point where game developers who are working on their games in order to have
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them run well on future hardware at least they used to um
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what they were designing their games for was hardware that you couldn't get yet
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so you were upgrading really often to even keep up and be able to play the games the way that they were meant to be
28:12
played not to say that you were necessarily playing them on NVIDIA hardware but the way that the game
28:15
developer intended that's changing um slick's running
28:21
a sandy bridge CPU slick's dad is running a bloomfield CPU
28:26
which is like five generations ago at this point and there is no game that the
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CPU can't handle even graphics cards to a much lesser
28:34
extent we used to expect a 50 plus
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improvement in performance when we went up a generation in graphics card notable
28:42
exceptions included things like fx 5800 to 5900 okay that that was that was oh
28:48
man that was terrible um but going from something like 5900 to
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6800 or 6800 to 7800 7800 to 7 900 was a
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small one but 7 800 up to gtx 280. these
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were huge huge improvements in performance since
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280 we haven't seen that again we've seen sort of
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30 here in there particularly since fermi fermi was probably the last big
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huge leap because 480 to 580 was very incremental 580 to 680 was incremental
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but still very strong especially given the price point it was coming in at and
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68 to 780 is very strong given the price point blah blah blah blah but it's not
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like it's not a complete game changer like the games that you couldn't even
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run before on that last flagship card
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ran great on the new one it's not it's not really like that anymore so to ask
29:38
how often to upgrade to stay competitive i mean the answer is what do you need to
29:42
be competitive i've encountered people who were playing at like 640 by 480 on
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an onboard GPU who can destroy me in counter-strike in spite of the fact that
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at the time i was running at sixteen hundred by twelve hundred crt a nineteen
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inch which was like awesome and i had uh you know an athlon
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64 x2 actually hold on i don't think
30:04
no wrong timing for that so i had an athlon 64. you know 3200 plus with like
30:09
you know it was claw hammer and t-rex's whatever i had like a beast
30:14
machine great monitor yeah i was totally useless against them so whether you can
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be competitive or not is actually up to you but it's it can still help you're
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running a sandy bridge three years later are you even tempted to upgrade it no
30:28
so that time is uh is stretching
30:32
um which leads us to our discussion topic was that five minutes
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i think it was about five minutes cool all right so oh is that is that actually
30:42
in here
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that was just me putting it in there go down
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i don't think it's in here it's somewhere it is somewhere wait wait down
30:54
that down up slow down
30:57
what that's not it it's not here i'm sure it's no it's not here right there
31:01
wait what oh oh well okay then fine
31:05
ah so moving right along um okay so we
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encountered a couple of different articles uh when we were doing our news
31:13
items for net linked weekly which is on the ncix channel one of which was that
31:18
the forecast for pc sales which has
31:21
already been adjusted down once at least once and has already been shown to be
31:25
declining and this is disastrous and everyone's really worried has been
31:28
adjusted down again so pc sales are
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seriously slowing also tablets are going oh well that was sort
31:36
of okay well this is in line with another one of our articles as well so
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tablets are going to be out selling
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yeah that's i know i know but okay so the other trend is that tablets
31:47
are going to outsell pcs for the first time i think in what was it 2016
31:53
yes uh no wait what
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what what where is it that one that um that b-roll
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gave us what one table's gonna be able selling pcs yeah in some article that's what
32:09
that's this article oh tablet shipments to outpace laptops in 2013. 2013
32:13
right so here's the article from ign wow i'm honestly i am so tired
32:19
yeah like i am just beyond tired okay so i'm just gonna let this do the
32:24
talking for me so blah blah blah tablet market growing so it's tablets will lead
32:29
the entire pc market by 2015. granted the traditional pc isn't going anywhere
32:33
yet but it's just another sign of an inevitable mobile dominated future uh
32:38
idc continues to believe that pcs will have an important role in this new era
32:42
of computing especially among business newers units users
32:47
tablet shipments are expected blah blah blah 22 229.3
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million units in 2013. so all of this is
32:54
looking sort of uh peachy keen for tablets but then vr zone had an article
33:01
where they were saying out of uh over a thousand americans surveyed were given
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the option to give up for a year their pc
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or their mobile phone tv
33:16
and was the third one tablet uh mobile phone
33:19
tv tablet yeah or or other variations of that so what
33:24
one could you go if you had to have only one which one would you have would you
33:28
have just your pc or would you have all that other stuff and the majority of
33:32
them said if they had to go without for a year they need their pc
33:36
more than they need their smartphone and their
33:40
uh and their tv and all these other things and that to me was really
33:44
interesting because we've talked about this before where the problem isn't the
33:47
utility of the pc keyboard and mouse like
33:50
beast represent because it's still the best
33:53
way to interact with the device and there will be leap motions and there
33:58
will be you know uh oculuses and there
34:02
will be all of these things there will be more possibly um more entertaining ways yes
34:08
and there will be more ways to interact with your pc but when it comes to pure
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efficiency i mean that article that says oh well
34:14
the pc will continue to be relevant for business users you know what regular
34:18
people need to be efficient too we have lives we have other things to do
34:23
we don't want to be like xbox turn on then change to channel 46
34:29
you know how much faster i can be like power on 46
34:33
talking is not fast direct input is kind of
34:36
a winner so it's not going away and the reality
34:40
of it is it's more to do with
34:43
that lengthening upgrade cycle because your pc from three years ago is fast
34:48
enough so many jokes hold that thought
34:51
so many jokes about my personal rig taking over a year for me to build it'll
34:55
be obsolete by the time you finish this no it isn't a 3960x is still with the exception of
35:02
the 3970x which is just a slight speed bump it's
35:05
this same thing a 3960x is still the fastest
35:09
desktop CPU you can buy i started that rig over a year ago
35:16
we have a new CPU coming i can tell you right now probably that i won't be
35:20
upgrading anytime soon so that's all i said i am not planning to
35:25
upgrade my personal rig and for all they know it could be laziness
35:29
um so so
35:32
okay so that thought you had okay so basically everyone's just running their
35:36
family pc that they bought five years ago because your mom and your dad who
35:40
don't play video games don't care yeah because it's probably just as fast as it
35:45
was to go on facebook and gmail and do
35:48
whatever they were probably doing now this is a mass generalization personally
35:52
my mom and dad play video games on their machines so they need more peace
35:55
machines but most won't so most people are just running
36:01
four or five-year-old pcs and have no intention of upgrading my family just downsized from their big house to an
36:06
apartment and so it used to be there were lots of pcs in the house so they
36:10
had a media pc my little brother had a pc in his room they had a family pc and
36:14
the hallway nook all those things so they wanted to consolidate they wanted
36:18
one desktop machine in the house they still want a desktop it's not going away
36:22
they all got laptops but they still want a desktop because it's just more
36:25
comfortable so okay and so it's not
36:28
going away but between all those old pcs
36:33
they had no complaints about their athlon x3 720 black edition which
36:38
happens to be the one that i resurrected when the pin came off and i stuffed the
36:42
pin into the socket and put the CPU on it it's still running to this day that
36:46
is still my parents daily driver machine um they're perfectly happy with it the
36:50
reality of it is there's not that much particularly from AMD that's that much
36:54
faster unless you have something that takes advantage of more than three threads
36:57
then my little brother asked me to take his gtx 275
37:01
and throw that in the machine so that he could play games once in a while but doesn't have to have his own dedicated
37:06
desktop computer yeah i can still do it i was playing bf3 on a 260. and he
37:10
didn't even care about the fact that he had an 8120 in his machine a faster chip
37:17
six core didn't matter to him at all because nothing he does even takes advantage of
37:21
that i still want more cores because i'm video editing i'm a heavy multitasker as
37:26
you know like i'm one of the few people who actually can benefit from RAM who
37:30
doesn't do like you know 3d rendering and it's all
37:34
browser tabs his laptop sits at like
37:38
85 89 RAM usage you close chrome alone
37:43
and it goes to 45. and i run five browsers
37:48
there's a method to the madness i know ask me to find a tab but i could barely
37:52
use your computer but it i don't care it's my computer i had to prep netlink
37:57
weekly i had to make the powerpoint for netflix weekly and like opening a new
38:02
tab would like lag out the laptop i'm like okay
38:06
i understand you have every tab open you could possibly need but i have to
38:10
actually do something else it's impossible
38:16
man uh so like anyways um next topic i got
38:21
wow i was very confused about that whole that whole topic you know what let's
38:25
move into this gaming one i like this topic
38:28
uh ceo resigns
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square enix blah blah blah
38:35
so basically while this loads square enix lost 130 it's 138 million yep yeah
38:40
138 million dollars last year this is a wired.com article their ceo has resigned
38:46
a lot of their games aren't making the amount of money they needed
38:50
or needed to yeah really needed to um they're blaming it on a few different
38:53
things one of them is that they're apparently their us marketing is not as strong as they had hoped because games
38:58
are selling 50 more in the eu um eu just seems hungrier these days in
39:03
general though there's lots of stuff that sells better in the eu that i kind
39:06
of look at and i go well you know what people in the eu have smaller houses
39:10
so they don't need as many couches to fill their rooms with um i mean i think
39:15
i think when it comes to things like consumer electronics the eu is more
39:18
progressive and more willing to spend now that everything's small
39:23
this brings back the thing we were talking about before in the 90s if something weighed a lot you're like oh
39:27
that's quality yeah like big if something weighs a lot
39:30
and it's big yeah and it was big now if something weighs a lot and it's big
39:34
you're like wow that's cheap and not very good
39:38
not always but often so mentality changing so the actual products seem to
39:42
have caught up to the eu sort of ethos a little bit um so yeah they can blame it
39:47
on that all they want but i personally call bs on that so carry on
39:51
yeah yeah exactly um i don't know it spells a bad thing for
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video games because a lot of well depending on how you want to look at it
39:58
but a lot of different publishers are on this routine where you spend a whole
40:03
bunch of money you dedicate a whole bunch of people a whole bunch of resources you spend four years making a
40:07
game yeah yeah like a long time a really
40:10
big game and you hope it sells like crazy but right now in the ecosystem
40:15
we're currently in especially with consoles you're looking at indie games
40:18
selling a lot because they're dirt cheap and hopefully don't take that long to
40:21
make and just the core like very small
40:25
unit of super aaa titles like skyrim
40:28
call of duty stuff like that that's taking up all the rest of the pie so
40:32
these games that should come in the medium to high range
40:36
are just not making it because it costs way too much to develop the game honestly i
40:41
think part of it is to do with the fact that people are just fed up they're not
40:44
gonna buy that sequel anymore i mean some of the examples that were given for
40:48
games that didn't do as well as they needed them to were tomb raider and sleeping dogs
40:53
and i'm just kind of sitting here going well okay um for one thing you gave away
40:58
an awful lot of copies with Radeon graphics cards
41:01
for both of those i mean if you guys think that you know AMD's paying 60 each
41:06
for those games they're not not at all uh they are
41:09
paying for them i know this for a fact but they're not paying that much for
41:13
them um there's the fact that i mean like you
41:17
know how sick are people of tomb raider games not being that great even though
41:22
it was good though yeah but it doesn't even matter at a certain point you're
41:25
right that's like that's like okay so our local hockey team vancouver canucks
41:29
every year well no we've got a really good team this year blah blah blah please come
41:33
watch us i'm tired of it i'm not going to watch anymore i don't care it's like
41:37
okay yeah there's a great team like call call me and let me know when you win a stanley cup and
41:41
so you know when when tomb raider wins game of the year at every possible
41:44
publication you know maybe a year after that and it's like 19.99 on steam yeah i'll grab
41:50
it that's the mentality that's part of it too on the computer side especially is
41:56
steam and origin and you play just going like ah it's been out for two weeks 50
42:00
off yep and you're just like i love it because i
42:03
can get so many games but on the developer side
42:06
yeah when you're spending millions upon millions upon millions of dollars and
42:10
your your expected asking price is 60
42:13
and the funny thing about game pricing is people complain about the 60 game
42:19
games haven't gone up in price for like 10 20 years it's been a really long time
42:25
one thing is some games that are coming out on uh ps4 and xbox one have shown up
42:30
on amazon at a hundred dollars really for ps4 and xbox one only and every
42:35
other platform way cheaper people are speculating that this is just because
42:39
they don't they haven't updated the ps1 or
42:42
too many numbers ps4 and xbox one pricing yet and they've only updated the
42:47
other pricing but who knows if it's a hundred bucks a game for new platforms
42:52
would you pay a hundred dollars for a video game it depends which one because
42:56
lots of people have paid 100 many times over for wow for example yep in certain
43:01
cases i would pay 100 for a video game not for everything though but and this
43:05
uh this is in line with sort of one of the points that the article on wired made but if it's only certain cases
43:11
we're going to be limiting the number of developers who can afford to make these
43:15
massive massive undertakings of a project um
43:19
down to a few that are going to be left standing i mean how long do you think square enix is going to stick around if
43:23
they're losing 130 million a year the answer is not very long especially in a
43:28
business model where it's not like they're going to run around and say oh no yeah this is the next big thing is
43:33
what we've been doing for all these years all this time that isn't working it's not like they're going to get a
43:36
bunch of investment to come in and revitalize them it's not how it actually
43:40
works i i mean i would i would say that part of it is complacency i mean when
43:45
you have franchises like final fantasy where you like you know squeeze out a
43:49
gigantic turd and a bunch of people buy it i i think that teaches you a terrible
43:53
lesson about what you have to do to succeed because it's been shown time and
43:58
time again blizzard can survive based on this mentality
44:01
yes and no blizzard has the
44:05
tenacity to just destroy something if they don't think it's good enough they
44:08
just did with titan well yeah but that's all that's a topic we haven't gone on to
44:11
yet yeah i was going to say like what is ghost for example
44:16
that's another applicable currently applicable um another thing is the like
44:20
zerg rush insane current mentality of the internet where it's like oh new
44:25
games out everyone play it so fast because you'll get hit by spoilers and
44:30
then forget about it because there's something on the other end
44:33
so a whole bunch of people are buying it really quickly yeah that's what india's
44:37
kind of done is it's increased the number of games something else something else
44:42
something else there's always something new so wide dwindle and you can't get
44:46
like 30 i guess it wasn't dlc back then but
44:50
expansions right you can't get 30 expansion sales on your game that's been
44:54
out for a year and a half because no one cares that's another thing that brings in day
44:58
one dlc is sometimes now i'm not defending day one dlc yeah you better
45:02
not do that mentality of the developer is is anyone gonna care in a while
45:07
right so we should probably release it sooner now i don't agree with day one
45:11
because you should probably be developing this after you release your
45:14
freaking game but you gotta release it fast or else no
45:17
one's gonna care right you know i i mean i noticed this
45:21
um i mean this has been the thing i guess for a while now actually because even
45:25
games like supreme commander i played and then it was just kind of gone
45:29
so unless it's like unless it's like a huge
45:32
triple a title you're not going to get much of a shelf
45:36
life on the multiplayer experience because that used to be how you sold a game like remember when everyone looked
45:40
at counter-strike as like oh we have to have a multiplayer component in our game
45:44
so people will keep playing it and keep buying people still buy counter-strike
45:48
so that people will keep playing it and keep buying it for so long but then what
45:52
happened is everyone did it and i don't think anyone's ever going to replicate
45:56
the longevity of a game like counter-strike ever again and a lot of
46:00
multiplayer games have no one on their servers and there's no one on the
46:04
servers so it doesn't actually improve anything about the experience and um and
46:09
i think we're just going to see that trend even continue and it's going to get worse because you look at aaa
46:14
franchises like what is it uh i can't even remember if it's cod or battlefield
46:18
or medal of honor it's one of those stupid games it's all the same where
46:21
they have a yearly release cycle now yeah and assassin's creed there's
46:25
another one yearly release cycle so they have to they're perpetuating this thing
46:32
that has them dumping all these resources into making something that
46:35
they were used to spending years crafting and then releasing and selling
46:38
a bajillion of them to the point where they're trying to mass produce something
46:42
and sell a bajillion of them because it's not like it costs less to make assassin's creed if you make it in a
46:46
year versus if you make it in three years yes i know a little less i think i think
46:51
part of it is going to come into i think releases for games are going to less be
46:55
before when a new one came out it was often like new engine
47:00
massive new storyline like new new new new everything was new huge platform
47:05
change and then call of duty got away with just releasing the same game on the
47:08
same engine overnight same engine and when you're when you're just changing
47:11
maps well they do have a new dog though
47:15
when you're just changing maps and just changing locations and stuff
47:19
yeah there's a lot of work that goes into it you're gonna add a few new guns you're gonna add maybe one more core
47:24
game mechanic but it's not nearly as much as building a game from the ground up yeah okay that's true so i think that
47:29
is gonna be a style that we're gonna see a lot more of so the Linus media group game will have cats in it
47:34
cats yeah and axes and helmets and dresses and yeah with tessellation
47:39
all the tessellations yeah and realistic cat sound effects
47:47
let's see if he starts talking to us hey rumble no
47:52
now now
47:56
you come visit now he's so unsure right here
48:00
there you go
48:09
there he goes okay all right so uh do you want should we do like another
48:12
twitter five minutes sure uh
48:17
should we go up and refresh yeah yeah let's go up and refresh so we're doing
48:21
another blast of of twitter here guys
48:24
i highly disagree with cod and medal of honor oh can you change it to the
48:27
twitter thing scene two
48:32
okay okay uh next
48:35
why isn't it i i agree they're not
48:41
they they're the same as each other no what do you mean no
48:45
battlefield 3 is dramatically different from battlefield 2
48:48
oh oh oh yes but not each other as in battlefield
48:52
is not the same as cod oh okay sure there's a huge difference there sure
48:56
but they're very similar yeah there's a vehicle or whatever halo had a vehicle
49:00
yeah banshees are awesome you don't play
49:03
modern FPS games that much i've played battlefield 3 for like 10
49:08
minutes yeah no i played longer than that actually i
49:12
did play battlefield 3 probably i have like four or five hours oh okay like i
49:16
played it i just don't care i thought it was pretty fun
49:19
there are guns you point them at the other guys hardcore mode was neat this guy liked a video so that's pretty
49:23
important okay first time catching live stream hi justin hello
49:29
your pricing hasn't changed but people's mentality has people see that if you
49:32
wait two weeks you get yeah exactly yep exactly
49:36
um okay so sometimes you can still grab people with pre-order incentives and
49:41
other than that people are just waiting until the 50 off because it's coming
49:44
quick because it's coming uh sheldon says you'll pay a hundred and fifty
49:48
bucks for the next elder scrolls would you pay a hundred and fifty dollars for that i think i paid more than 150 for
49:52
the last one oh yeah okay
49:55
so yeah because i got the big one with the dragon and everything right of course
50:00
you did and the player's guide and okay next next one next one sorry i know you
50:04
love elder scrolls geez uh tornadoes suck that's unfortunate uh should i get
50:07
a gtx 780 or another we already answered that question from someone else final
50:12
final fantasy hopefully some other games
50:15
uh you know what i think that square enix
50:18
is best hope at this point because they don't seem to be able to figure out how
50:21
to make final fantasy anymore would be to just keep re-releasing old ones we
50:25
release old ones with like awesome graphics not just like oh yeah we we
50:29
tried to hd the textures a little bit like completely rebuild it make awesome
50:32
graphics yeah i bet a rebuilt uh final fantasy vii would sell like hot cakes oh
50:37
yeah i'm sure
50:41
you want to read it no it's okay moving right along okay
50:47
flats apartments people are willing to pay more for something it takes less space yes these aren't really questions
50:51
let's let's skip to the questions okay well that's a question
50:56
go well okay do you want me to read it yeah hello Linus and also slick i have two
51:01
questions first what water cooling should i get for my i5 3570k i'm stumped
51:06
that's one question go i don't
51:10
i'm is xox works or is that is he trying to freeze that as a question no that's
51:14
like kisses and hugs yeah okay h220 go go go go go h220 go pcs are
51:20
declining in sales because everyone is building their own with parts no that's actually not it gta 5 i thought it was
51:25
already confirmed a really long time ago okay oh pc confirmed yeah i'm pretty
51:29
sure it was confirmed a while ago okay not a question
51:32
chrome using so much RAM because okay not a question are there any good cherry
51:36
green keyboards out at the moment or coming soon go the cm storm trigger is
51:39
it's just a trigger i think it's a trigger same storm trigger with greens although it's very hard to get so good
51:44
luck yeah not much stock uh i have a 2600k sorry though um thanks
51:50
for the good luck i believe they put when are you gonna
51:53
finish the home computer build it's actually done i just haven't made a video about it
51:57
well you still have to do the yeah so it's like as close to done as you
52:01
could possibly be without being done yeah uh i7 930 is beast so yep okay let's go
52:07
back up to the top let's see if we got any new questions because none of these are questions
52:12
44 new interactions okay speed twitter uh did you like darkest of days never
52:16
played it never played it okay i really like the new forum okay nope not a question
52:21
not a question favorite energy drink go i don't uh talon i don't drink them okay
52:26
next how can i have four titan gpus with a
52:29
sound and raid card two and one build you can't don't
52:33
yeah just don't don't yeah will dlc be on the
52:37
be the only future of video games
52:40
will dlc be the only future um downloadable games is possibly the only
52:45
future of video games getting hard copies of games will very possibly go
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the way of lps where you can still do it but it's a very high premium there won't
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be very many of them and it's going to be special order yeah like i wonder if it would almost be like you know someone
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would get a license to like you know download it and print it and
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like you know make a box for it it would very possibly
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so there'll be like niche like web stores yeah um the global legacy are you
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going to do videos on the new AMD apos yes sebastian asks nothing to do but my
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country a 680 okay good for you uh summer pc completely new build maxing
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out actual games budget go
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1300 1400 that's always a very good price range to
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play around with especially if it's a summer pc where you're just saving up
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i'm taking that in the context of you're saving up money over the summer you're
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working for the summer going back to school 1300 1400 is a very good budget
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for that when can we expect the 716 how much will
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it cost do i look like a magician don't no don't know okay
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i've would you recommend hybrid physics uh
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seven no no i wouldn't recommend running a 640 as a dedicated physx card at all
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i'm building an matx computer can you recommend a motherboard
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um 1155 go yeah the ASUS one the
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that's m-a-t-x sorry m-a-t-x i don't know a board yeah
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i don't usually worry about my board too much with matx board builds
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i usually just like focus on CPU and GPU and then just kind of z77 chipset
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can't go wrong yeah okay i have a Windows home server running on an ASUS
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z77 itx deluxe i'm having trouble installing drivers help
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simran i i can't help you with that right now download them on a different
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machine like a laptop or something you speed them over go to linustechtips.com
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post it in the troubleshooting forum yeah there we go and market best answer
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if someone gives you a good answer yeah do you know if we're going to be seeing any reference 770s in the near future i
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like it better than the other coolers actually i have no idea
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because like no one is doing reference 770s with this week no everyone's doing
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like winforce or direct cue or whatever it's a sweet cooler
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cooler it's freaking awesome i know but it's a lower price point card until
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someone comes in and is able to somehow utilize the light bar that's an
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incredibly expensive cooler like i can understand but someone couldn't someone
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utilize that lighting bar and evga's led technology
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led software on an aftermarket cooler that'd be kind of cool that would be
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cool that's what i'm waiting for someone to do that somehow what do you think of gtx 770 over 680 do you think
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performance is too close to justify the 770
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uh personally yes okay i say wrong question because they are not caught
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they don't cost the same cost the same they're not even in the same direct tier
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it's it's slightly awkward so yeah 770 is not an upgrade for someone with a
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680. it's not even positioned that way yeah you're going off to your yeah like
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a 680 is replaced by a 780 yeah a 780 is
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an upgrade and a good upgrade yes
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uh what do you think about the surface pro it's it's cool but not that many people
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have the proper use case for it in my opinion uh if you're if you're something
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like a programming student i could see it uh
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other than that i actually don't know way too many if you need to run a
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desktop application but it's not super super heavy
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kind of cool but the amount of use cases for that like i just said not very high
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hi from ireland guys any suggestion for a good keyboard or mouse for around 100
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that would be a good for a first-time pc gamer
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um you're in ireland so i don't know your prices
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100 euros is basically like yeah but then i don't know how much stuff costs
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there because i find oh that's right yeah i don't know Linus tech tips.com
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forum go yeah keyboard and mouse section
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the word feature proof sucks we don't know things can change a lot but you'll
56:43
probably be fine okay um my cat was meowing with you guys
56:47
sweet awesome okay let's see if we've got any more topics that we need to
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finish up exposed
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oh uh you can i'm gonna see if we have
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another topic xbox home i wonder how many people just got
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disconnected probably none because none of them have xboxes because they're pc gamers
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i hope someone is watching on their xbox members of the pc gaming i really hope i
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just disconnected someone i'm kind of not that sorry if i just disconnected
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you but that would be hilarious i hope someone
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is oh let's talk about the uh
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where is it oh i can't find anything what are you looking for back to the
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drawing board blizzard unannounced mmo go go okay so titan blizzard's been
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working on it for a while this article said they had 100 people on it and last
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week we talked about how they moved 150 people to their team yeah so it seems
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like there's some mixed messages going on with uh with titan but basically uh
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the first kind of news about it came out around what was it 2011
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i think i think they kind of announced like the name that's about it i don't
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think they ever announced the name i believe that was leaked oh so so
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basically they've been working on it for a while it was
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um you know they they were talking about how we're putting our best developers on
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it we're gonna blow everyone's socks off um blizzard has delayed the unannounced
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mmo actually the article here is a little bit sensationless in some ways
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it's on venturebeat.com it says delays unannounced mmo until 2016. i
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i didn't see a quote from anyone from blizzard that said it's going to come
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out in 2016. so there isn't one this is a 100 speculation about date yeah they
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actually there is and that's their headline like come on guys there's a quote saying that there is not a date
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yes so so yeah there's no date but what
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has been confirmed is that much of the titan team has been reallocated to other
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projects um
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the core team is still there yes core teams still there they're gonna work on
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redesign they're gonna change it they weren't happy with it yeah they're blowing it up and they're redoing it i
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would way way rather than they did this that they
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did this then release something that wasn't up to par i like it when people
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take the time to release a good i mean it's nice to have the luxury to have
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that constant stream of revenue from wow a game that you made like a 000 years
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ago yeah a lot of people couldn't do this but it's it's cool that they are
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like square enix doesn't even have this option like if tomb raider was you know
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80 percent done being built and it wasn't good enough they'd still have to
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release it and and that i mean has
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i mean the the brutal industry that is game development has killed the brutal
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industry that is game development and in the long run run i mean blizzard valve
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these are gonna be the only ones left and i'm not even convinced valve's a game dev anymore
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when's the last time they made a game yeah it's been a while it's like it
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feels like it yeah yeah yeah it's like it's a side project
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like hey gabe if you're watching they're amazing i'm still waiting for episode
59:43
three honestly though when we were playing with the uh with the oculus and the omni
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and like playing half-life 2 a little bit there i was like oh yeah this is a
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good game i wish there was another one like this
59:56
yeah i know so so yeah uh what's going to be left
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valve yeah sports games um holy cow cat your cat um
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yeah i don't know probably some crazy mobile developer
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yeah so that's sad one thing i want to call it before we go into something else is
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we've been having some email issues uh we're getting capped on the amount of
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emails we can see with the forum you've got to give context for stories we've been having email issues
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i'm tired man we've been having email issues with the forum we're getting capped on the amount we can properly
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send so with all the massive amount of giveaways
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that just went out we hit our cap for
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yeah we just destroyed our cap so server's not exactly going to be happy
60:46
with sending out emails right now so if you do have a problem please send an
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email to info linusmediagroup.com and ask for say say
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your your account you're not able to log in for whatever reason send an email
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there whatever we will try to fix that sorry about the email issues
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and yeah happy to say that we're quite stable lately
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okay well i think we're gonna we're gonna probably cut the live stream now
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so thank you guys very much for tuning in all 3 500 of you which is actually
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phenomenal um there will not be an after party today because we will be packing
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up for our trip to computex stay tuned on the youtube channel for the video
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that's coming up which is ridiculous announcing all the cool prizes that
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we're going to be giving away courtesy of western digital who's powering our
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trip to computex in addition to Corsair as well as ncix
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and um peace out
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because i'm leaving on a jet plane i don't know when i'll be
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back again actually i'll be back on the ninth and i don't know the rest of that
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song