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all right guys welcome to the live stream sorry for the late start uh

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honestly excuses aside this is my excuse

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it has been the craziest week ever

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at Linus media group it has actually been

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10 minutes yeah like i i've i think i've slept about

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five hours the last two nights combined you probably haven't done that much

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better not much better a little bit but not much better so for those of you who

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haven't been paying attention to the videos lately in the last two weeks

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we've had gtx 780 launch gtx 770 launch

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um in the next week there's a major

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launch coming from Intel

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i mean well is there any point even okay haswell

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launching it computex AMD's richland apu's are launching

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sometime in the next week uh something else is going oh right well

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we've been packing to go to computex we're moving we're moving so

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there's a video up on the channel right now showing our new digs

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uh so so we've we've partially moved

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it's amazing we're still alive never mind that we're streaming

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this could be a recording and we're actually dead right now or we are in the very process of dying

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and this is the last footage this could be like because you know there's always

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like the last picture yeah or like like like the album of like the scraps

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that they recorded and weren't good enough but then they can like yeah cash

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money yeah or like uh tolkien's like scribblings that they apparently turned

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into a movie at some point

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no come on some of the stuff in the hobbit

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is unacceptable a pretty good movie though i still liked the movie spoiler alert

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no there's dumb stuff okay yeah that was it

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look at what he's doing i know he's like playing with the backpack

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i don't even have the uh i don't even have the live stream sheet up here but

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oh you know what it's okay is my word is keyboard working i don't think so i

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don't know if it's from oh there's a light on it there's a light on it that's usually a good sign

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yeah not working all right

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okay so we'll just have to lean forward and operate the computer there but uh

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let's get into it so topic number one is Linus media group at computex and yeah

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we're gonna do the build logs from last week don't worry we know it cut out uh

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salinas media group at computex um if you saw any of our ces coverage then

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you'll probably have some idea what's coming a lot is coming however there are

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going to be some changes this time around so number uno

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is that oh crap

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i don't know if our wi-fi is working hopefully it is i'm on wi-fi okay have

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you noticed that i'm streaming that's good that's a good strategy okay

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um cool so that's right so there's going to

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be a couple changes number one is we're taking a larger group this time so it's

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going to be me slick diesel

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and b-roll so we're going to have four people so

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instead of having one team of four people that's responsible for running

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around and doing meetings and running around to suites and going to the show

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floor and like doing all this crazy stuff we're gonna be mostly focused on

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covering the show we're going to do a little bit of more like uh travel

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blogging while we're there this is going to be the first time either i or slick

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have ever been to asia so evidently they have food there

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and that's something that you should try or

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shouldn't try either way it'll be hilarious yeah blind taste testing of food is

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probably gonna be i don't know if i'm comfortable with that really i don't

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know if i trust diesel we won't we should probably get b-roll to do it

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yeah because i think b-roll would actually try to not harm us

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yeah i don't know if i could trust these will not actually hurt us yeah

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like he it might be just like maybe it's like 20 minutes of intense pain

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but like i think he'd be okay without dying yeah yeah i don't think he tried

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to kill us but like if we were uncomfortable i think he

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would that would that would float his boat a little bit fine yeah um

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so we'll we'll see on that one but we're going to do that we're also going to be doing

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some crazy giveaways so

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along with sort of the the okay so there's a 4770k giveaway right now and

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that one you have to sign up sometime and i think you've got like two days to

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retweet this tweet and then post your link in the forum and show us that you

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did it and then you have a chance to win a 4770k uh there's four htc phones we're

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giving away over the next month htc was just phenomenally generous with that one

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i mean four phones they were like oh do you want to do a giveaway i'm like yeah

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that'd be kind of cool they're like how's four phones i'm like

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uh yeah let's get this going because the forums growing really fast they want to

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support the community and then timmytechtv so youtube.com timmytechtv

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go subscribe any subscriber of timmytechtv who is also a member of the

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Linus tech tips forum can have a chance to win of course their 900d canada and

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us only for that one though um okay so we've got all those giveaways in

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addition to that i have a video that i'll be releasing later tonight

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that has over ten thousand dollars in prizes that western

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digital is helping us source and and

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give away through the Linus tech tips forum um in a dish in in exchange for

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hitting certain view targets so you guys gotta all work with me here and share

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the content that we make from the wd booth and computex because the more

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views we get the more amazing crazy stuff that we get to give away in the

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few weeks after we get back from computex so

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guys watch the video tonight make sure that you uh make sure you check that out

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also it's like just a ridiculous video it's the stupidest thing we've ever made

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by far superman helmet dress axe yeah

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all these words they don't make any sense right now and they won't make any sense later

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like at all yeah just

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uh so computex show coverage you guys also said that you liked some of the

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coverage that slick did at ces so slick

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covered uh sony's big tv thing or samsung's big tv thing rather than

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the uh the tv that was like going to redefine

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redefine the like the aspect ratio of your tv but it's actually a display

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thing just on it's like it was like virtual art was digital signage and it

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was just rotated i was like really it's like oh

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people have already done this rain hurts um like i remember back when

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i got my 9600 all in wonder built into the driver you could right

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click and rotate your display 20 degrees

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and i was like oh that's kind of cool and then i never used it because why would you well digital science digital

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signage yes and like there's some i know sometimes

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um like like programmers and stuff and

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people that read read it a lot those are the only two people i know that do this but you just like if you're a hardcore

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enough redditor that your monitor is right now

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like in one internet for you people do that

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oh i believe it i believe it um and like i've seen where someone will have like

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monitor like this and then monitor like this on each side

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so they can have like their main viewing monitor for games or whatever and then

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like reddit code or whatever reddit like certain

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things that go very well vertically awesome like people do it okay so the

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thing we're doing differently you guys said you liked slick's content so we are

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gonna be splitting into two teams team a is gonna be me and diesel and we

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are gonna go around and do all the really cool stuff and then

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i mean i mean well come on no it's true probably i just didn't have to say it

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you're just gonna shotgun everything but i wanted to say it yeah so so we're

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gonna have an a team and a b team so diesel and i are gonna do our own thing

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covering the show and then slick and b-roll are gonna be the b team and let

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me tell you there is going to be some heavy competition between a team and b

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team for who gets like the coolest content to bring to you guys and who's

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driving you know the most engagement from the viewers and the most excitement

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and sort of covering the show best for you guys i

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expect now we did 56 videos at ces if i

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recall correctly i will be floored if we don't bring you guys another 50 or 60

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videos from computex giving you the most complete coverage that we possibly can

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so many of you just really inspired us with your comments on the ces coverage

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so i really wanted to do it again considering knowing you it's going to be

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a competition there's probably going to be more than that

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yeah yeah probably yeah yeah and i i mean just one more thing that i want to

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say is in addition to the prices that wd is providing us to give away wd is our

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gold sponsor our main sponsor for our trip to computex they've been phenomenal

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they are the reason that we are able to go we do have a couple other sponsors so

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corsairs vengeance peripherals are well okay Corsair but uh we're going to be

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talking mostly about their vengeance gaming peripherals they are contributing

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in a big way to having us there as well and we're actually going to be doing some coverage of their overclocking

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event while we're over there and then our third sponsor is none other than

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ncix.com a store that if you follow me you have probably heard of

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probably mostly they're in canada i'm in canada which makes sense also they have

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computer stuff that's yeah they kind of have all the computer

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stuff yeah and they ship worldwide now so there

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these are all good things so so it's going to be western digital Corsair and

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ncix powering our trip to computex in fact we're even going to be producing

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some ncix tech tips videos that we're going to send back to those guys so they

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can put it on the nci xcom channel if you're not subscribed to ncix tech tips

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make sure you do that because some of our content is going to go over there

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for ncix so that they have some awesome coverage of the show as well

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i think that was pretty much all i wanted to say look you can see rumble moving behind you just over your

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shoulder in the camera yeah right here yeah yeah it's like it's like rumble

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what's your problem honey you wanna come visit

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yeah you want to visit come on come here he's having trouble finding a

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path come on come on so okay our next topic is going to be

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build logs of the week but for last week we may do a bit of a shorter live stream

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this week guys just because we are supposed to be at the airport in six

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hours um and we i don't know about you but i haven't really packed

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uh i've packed a little bit yeah not nearly enough i

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packed all the super obvious stuff yeah so like the actual hard part of packing

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still has to be done yeah like the part where it's like did i remember my

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toothbrush because that would be bad

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those kinds of things like i have a list down there on the floor that's all the things that i need to

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pack and i like have none of them so yeah so we have to we have to actually

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pack um and i mean we have to try to pack things that neither

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hi sweetie you want kisses

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you want to come visit he's like where are you going yeah i know oh he was so

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cute last night um my wife had my

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suitcase open on the floor and every time he sees that suitcase i i think he

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knows that i'm going somewhere because it's never her who goes anywhere and he

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goes and he sits himself in the suitcase until it gets so full to the point where

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you have to physically remove him from it to put more stuff in it and then he

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goes and sits on the stuff in it until you close it

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it's so cute it's like please i i can has come with you please

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oh poor baby he's gonna be so lonely

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oh sweetheart okay i know anyone who thinks cats don't care

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about their owners has not met this particular cat because

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valid comparison against dogs though he loves he loves very deeply

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come on rumble's also kind of different i haven't met very many rumble special

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tacular yeah okay so right build log all right let's

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switch to scene whatever it is nope wow what is this for a limited time

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and then you did that last week too what is this because your tactical rifle

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totally needed an iphone stretch oh i know what it is it's because we oh oh

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rumble please don't walk on that keyboard nope nope

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it's because we disconnect this monitor in between streams that's the problem

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so so the thing that happens is uh don't

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mess up the nice pro art uh okay well i can't figure out how this

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is gonna work so whatever let's talk about we just open it yeah build logs

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that's going to give really crappy pictures yep oh wow

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well i guess you guys will have to uh you guys will have to sort of get the

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point here so this is silent cure by jim

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star87 now we are using a bit of a different

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method for showing build logs of the week these days because it was very very

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sort of brutal and time consuming to show them the way that they were before

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and we've had problems with them just crashing the stream out right due to

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i don't know just complete and utter stupidity that we

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can't figure out so uh slick you want to cover this one

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all right so basically this one's just absolutely insane if you pay attention

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to the color of the liquid you could tell that he actually has two loops

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going on you're pointing with your finger at the screen again

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he has two loops going on so you see all the blue tubing and then there's green

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here there's another reservoir that's off the screen over here in the front of

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his case and there's pump pump SSD

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there's just one of the reasons why i like this build so much is just just so

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much stuff usually when we get build logs of the week that we pick um there's

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just a graphics card that's when he's got a graphics card a sound card three

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reservoirs two pumps ssds all over the place if you go check his actual build

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log there's even more he's got tracers because more lights

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might as well do it he's got just tracer memory yeah yeah that's what you

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meant he's got all the different colored everything and

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i believe those are uv lights i don't remember it's a very very low res image

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yeah awesome awesome awesome rig though guys go check it out and make sure that

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you're following the build log section of the forum and then our next one here

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neon splash by crab creations and google

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drive completely butchered the colors on this one oh did it really yeah that's

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actually really unfortunate okay hold on let's see if we can figure this out guys

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we've never really tried this before if you if you download it

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how do you how do you download it file right here

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yeah okay open so

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oh you made it a powerpoint yeah why'd you make it a powerful we talked about

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this and we decided to make it a powerpoint well i didn't decide that you

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did oh for crying out loud the slideshow is playing on our other monitor because

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it's the primary monitor it's probably bigger you're going to be freaking kidding me oh there you go wow that's

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gorgeous yeah so it's crazy he's sticking up look at the stickers on the

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side he's sticking up his graphics card but

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uv lights all over the place his power supply has freaking like orange and

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green uv sleeving on it it's

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nuts both the builds this week were just like tripping balls yeah just completely

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tripping balls so another very cool build he has stuff

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that doesn't appear in the picture just like the previous guy so please go to

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the forum check out the build logs of the week thread that windspeed created

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and view these guys actual builds because like this guy changed the led of

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his power button to yellow and like changed the window and changed

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the stripping on the window and like he did a bunch of other stuff just because

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it wasn't ridiculous enough yet might as well add more craziness and the previous

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one had a whole bunch of other things as well so please actually check those both

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out now i've seen some complaints that we're not doing enough twitter q a so

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someone's suggestion was that we do like uh like like twitter blitz where we

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answer as many questions as we can for five minutes so guys

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send your questions we promise not to get sidetracked we're gonna do one topic

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then we're going to go to twitter and we're going to burn our way through as many of them as we can

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now we're going to have people trying to side track us with like huge topics we're going to

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ignore huge topics because we're not going to be able to tell we'll give super short very annoying answers yeah

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we'll be like no pasta pasta you just copied me

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that was my idea pasta lasagna that is

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i haven't fired you in a while but

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you're getting close i liked that answer it was good

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it was good yeah but it's my answer

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in a slightly different way okay so let's do let's do a short news item

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while we uh while we wait to move on to that so we're going to close this uh

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this thing no remove the files i've saved the files i need all right so

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google has basically come out and said

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if governments want google to pay more taxes they should change their tax laws

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he has a good point well hold on you should explain the context of the article so this is an article from

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bgr.com and go because you brief

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yourself on this one more than me uh google facebook whole bunch of other

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companies have different ways of

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legal tax evasion and they've got a bit of a reputation like you know the

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general sort of person kind of looks at and goes well i have to pay taxes why

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don't these massive corporations with their buckets and buckets of money have

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to pay taxes well because they know legal ways to not

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pay taxes they're not actually breaking the law they're just doing a whole bunch

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of shady things that you wouldn't think are legal

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and you wouldn't think you should be able to do them but they are able to do

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them so basically google is saying why should we

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like just pay random money when we're following the law already

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why shouldn't you change your laws so it actually makes us do this but i mean i

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think there's a fear that changing the laws will drive that business out of the

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countries but on the other hand i mean you look at and you go well what is you know google

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going to pack up and like move their hq to nigeria i don't think so

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um like there's countries in the world that don't have taxes i mean what so

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they basically said if the british system changes the tax laws then we will

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comply this doesn't only apply to great britain though i mean this is uh this is

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just in general there's a lot of ways to okay so here for example i know that if

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you're a homeowner and you can re-configure

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your down payment for another place and you can sort of tinker around with the

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system there's a way that you can pay off your mortgage using pre-tax income

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rather than using after-tax income which here in canada is about we we get

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anywhere between about 27 and about 40 percent personal income tax before any

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sales tax so just like right off the top so being able to do that would allow you

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to pay down your mortgage much faster and the problem is just that

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most people don't know these tricks but when you're a huge company and it

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actually costs less to hire a team of lawyers for several millions of dollars

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per month than it would to pay those taxes which would be potentially tens or

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even hundreds of million dollars or whatever whatever it would work out to

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then that's the way you go and at the end of the day the only ones

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getting rich in the world as far as i can tell are couriers and lawyers yeah

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and they're in like cahoots oh yeah you know how you still have to courier

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around legal documents

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i'm on to you guys

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oh man um okay so let's do our let's do

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our twitter did you have anything to add to that one at all

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uh no not really okay well we agree actually i don't think we ever said that

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yeah no yeah we we kind of agree he has a point if the laws are wrong and the

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laws are antiquated and there are loopholes it's

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it it is what it is it's like if a restaurant says all you can eat and

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someone comes in and eats all they can eat and then the restaurant's like well we

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didn't want you to take that much food it brings up the same like if if you

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could apply the logic where it's like oh they should just do it or whatever then

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unlimited data how unlimited data isn't actually unlimited i hate that yeah

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unlimited anything where it's like unlimited yeah it's actually 2 000. i'm

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like well that's not actually unlimited

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so there you go uh okay so

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twitter q a time

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let's go ahead and i think my phone battery just died

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all right so okay Corsair k60 or question mark um neither

00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:29.840
of us are really cherry mx red guys so i think we would probably go question mark

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however the k60 does have some cool things about it um

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i've really liked the build quality for example i think that metal backplate

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that's absolutely gorgeous you should but if i was going to do it i'd go k70

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you should yeah you should go to a store you should try

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and get them to find keyboard boxes that don't have stickers or anything or or

00:21:47.679 --> 00:21:54.240
wrapping so that you can open them and you should try all the different switches before making a decision yeah

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because just because we don't prefer reds doesn't mean that a lot of people

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don't prefer reds because a lot of people do yep okay why don't we do these

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uh why don't we do these sort of one one after the other so you do the next one

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thoughts on use thoughts on ufc favorite fighters

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uh georgetown pierre capture the news

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what's richland they exist yeah they're slightly better than the

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old ones yeah but not by a ton well they're technically still under embargo

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i think but whatever

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okay any plans for budget builds on ncix linguine um

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yeah i don't know what to tell you about that because i don't really understand

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what you mean okay he doesn't do those i'm up next yeah i think he's talking

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about the pre-done oh yeah no i don't configure those anymore um

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okay which is better for gaming and color repli production tft panel or ips panel

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tft is just another way of saying lcd and an ips is a type of lcd so

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he's probably talking about ta tn tn there we go yeah he probably means

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tn so tn is technically better for gaming because of faster pixel response

00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:05.520
times but ips is way better for color reproduction and you can get some ips

00:23:04.159 --> 00:23:11.840
panels that have really really good response time okay uh you're up

00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:15.360
can i get a shirt uh happy birthday kadeem something terrick asks why are

00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:20.960
you setting up your business in another house and not leasing a commercial space

00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:23.760
um well for investment reasons so in the

00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:26.559
in the longer term i can't afford to actually buy a commercial space that's

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big enough for what we'd need but not so small that

00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:37.360
it's just kind of stupid and has no sort of exit strategy

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whereas a home is pretty easy to deal

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with particularly here in the lower mainland where

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for all the talk about the bubble bursting it it still hasn't

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so they've been talking about bubble bursting for years and it hasn't come to it i mean it might at some point but the

00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:54.720
reality of it is i can absorb it anyway so see how it goes

00:23:53.039 --> 00:24:00.080
here you go how much did you budget for your overall build if you want to include a 70 780 go

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you can variable it quite a bit what i would do is go to any website and add it

00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:07.919
to the cart add the applicable processor so depending on if you're gaming or not

00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:11.440
you're getting an i5 or an i7 and then build around it and just

00:24:09.520 --> 00:24:14.799
try to figure it out okay what would you what would you tell someone

00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:19.760
eighteen hundred two grand eighteen hundred two grand i'd say you could probably do it for and 50. probably but

00:24:18.320 --> 00:24:25.520
you're sacrificing quite a few you're probably sacrificing but if you were willing to put it in like a cardboard

00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:29.120
box yeah and honestly you could build a build around a 780 and like ignore a

00:24:27.600 --> 00:24:32.400
case with a little bit build it on top of your motherboard and then like you

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:37.840
can get a few things at the end like get your case get some more fans like you can finish the build later because 780

00:24:35.919 --> 00:24:41.120
is pretty freaking awesome uh sheldon says slick is a hologram and your wall

00:24:39.360 --> 00:24:45.200
needs an isotropic filtering i think it stops slick is actually fired that's why

00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:48.720
he's a hologram oh what uh

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quick go go should i have to go okay why don't i read out the questions because

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you can't read them from here can you no not very well i kind of can but it's

00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:57.840
just should i upgrade to a 780 or buy another 680

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uh with all the things going with the sli although sli is not having as many

00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.440
problems as crossfire not nearly as many yeah and with how absolutely insanely

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:11.520
beast mode 780 has been i would probably go for 780 and sell the 680 so get some

00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:14.720
of your return on that i don't know much about sound cards what

00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:18.880
do i need to look for when buying one buy an ASUS zonar get the best one that

00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:22.559
you can afford in your price range good to go

00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:26.320
if you can get sorry read it flashing your router with custom firmware do it

00:25:24.159 --> 00:25:30.559
or not if you can get ddwrt or tomato it's freaking awesome do it okay

00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:33.279
why does slick shirt look all funny on the stream we don't know

00:25:32.080 --> 00:25:37.600
when are you getting your hands on the gtx 790 uh we can't comment on

00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:40.640
unreleased products thoughts on alps key switches i saw this

00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:44.159
one so i was saving this one for you and i haven't actually used any but from

00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:48.080
what i've heard they're pretty good but most people seem to prefer a certain

00:25:46.159 --> 00:25:51.760
type of cherry as far as i have seen but again no personal usage speaking of

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:55.360
which i asked cooler master we can get cherry mx greens as soon as they stop

00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:58.240
selling every single one that hits their warehouse i've heard about that so there

00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:02.320
you go um joshua what will you name your new

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:07.440
place Linus media group hq is boring call it something like Linus's awesome

00:26:03.919 --> 00:26:07.440
unboxing cave um

00:26:08.080 --> 00:26:13.600
uh i i don't know um someone asks favorite thread on the

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:18.880
forum uh i think i like the memes thread gotta be the meme side also

00:26:17.360 --> 00:26:23.440
slick take off your shirt expose your nips

00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:30.080
no will you get an easy 87 MSI motherboards um should at some point we

00:26:28.320 --> 00:26:33.279
don't have any yet we're mostly focused on ASUS for this launch

00:26:33.919 --> 00:26:39.760
um alexa 780. oh i didn't read it yet what

00:26:37.840 --> 00:26:43.919
do you like about the new NVIDIA 700 series graphics card slick 780 is an

00:26:42.159 --> 00:26:48.400
absolute beast if you check out benchmarks it basically ties or comes

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:52.720
slightly below titan many times and the price delta between those two makes it a

00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:55.600
very very good choice other than that we haven't had a ton of experience with

00:26:53.840 --> 00:26:59.520
them okay should i wait for 800 series to arrive or go with 700 series choice

00:26:57.360 --> 00:27:03.279
is yours no one knows how the 800 series will perform so and no one knows when

00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:07.039
it's coming so yeah no one knows

00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:11.039
esther and crazy russian at an AMD event when are you gonna visit markham ontario

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:15.200
i'll take this one um no idea the google tax law thing was because

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:18.159
they want a level playing field yeah good yes

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:23.120
how often should you upgrade your system to stay competitive in modern games go

00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:27.919
uh usually i find around two and a half three years however that's changing

00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:31.360
yeah which will lead us into our next real topic so

00:27:29.840 --> 00:27:37.039
um okay do you want me to cover how that's changing sure okay so that's changing

00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:44.159
because it used to be that things were altering the landscape

00:27:40.320 --> 00:27:46.080
was altering so fast that by the time

00:27:44.159 --> 00:27:51.039
you know two years had rolled around we'd seen a couple major major

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:56.799
improvements in either CPU performance or GPU performance and sometimes both to

00:27:54.159 --> 00:28:01.279
the point where game developers who are working on their games in order to have

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:05.919
them run well on future hardware at least they used to um

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:09.120
what they were designing their games for was hardware that you couldn't get yet

00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:13.279
so you were upgrading really often to even keep up and be able to play the games the way that they were meant to be

00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:17.919
played not to say that you were necessarily playing them on NVIDIA hardware but the way that the game

00:28:15.840 --> 00:28:23.360
developer intended that's changing um slick's running

00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:28.320
a sandy bridge CPU slick's dad is running a bloomfield CPU

00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:32.480
which is like five generations ago at this point and there is no game that the

00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:38.559
CPU can't handle even graphics cards to a much lesser

00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.559
extent we used to expect a 50 plus

00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:45.760
improvement in performance when we went up a generation in graphics card notable

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:51.600
exceptions included things like fx 5800 to 5900 okay that that was that was oh

00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:58.240
man that was terrible um but going from something like 5900 to

00:28:53.760 --> 00:29:02.240
6800 or 6800 to 7800 7800 to 7 900 was a

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:04.080
small one but 7 800 up to gtx 280. these

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:08.240
were huge huge improvements in performance since

00:29:06.159 --> 00:29:11.760
280 we haven't seen that again we've seen sort of

00:29:10.159 --> 00:29:17.039
30 here in there particularly since fermi fermi was probably the last big

00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:21.440
huge leap because 480 to 580 was very incremental 580 to 680 was incremental

00:29:19.600 --> 00:29:25.600
but still very strong especially given the price point it was coming in at and

00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:28.960
68 to 780 is very strong given the price point blah blah blah blah but it's not

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:34.000
like it's not a complete game changer like the games that you couldn't even

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:35.840
run before on that last flagship card

00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:40.720
ran great on the new one it's not it's not really like that anymore so to ask

00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:45.120
how often to upgrade to stay competitive i mean the answer is what do you need to

00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:50.159
be competitive i've encountered people who were playing at like 640 by 480 on

00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:54.000
an onboard GPU who can destroy me in counter-strike in spite of the fact that

00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:58.399
at the time i was running at sixteen hundred by twelve hundred crt a nineteen

00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:04.399
inch which was like awesome and i had uh you know an athlon

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.840
64 x2 actually hold on i don't think

00:30:04.399 --> 00:30:12.480
no wrong timing for that so i had an athlon 64. you know 3200 plus with like

00:30:09.919 --> 00:30:17.039
you know it was claw hammer and t-rex's whatever i had like a beast

00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:20.960
machine great monitor yeah i was totally useless against them so whether you can

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:25.200
be competitive or not is actually up to you but it's it can still help you're

00:30:23.520 --> 00:30:29.760
running a sandy bridge three years later are you even tempted to upgrade it no

00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:35.120
so that time is uh is stretching

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:40.000
um which leads us to our discussion topic was that five minutes

00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:45.279
i think it was about five minutes cool all right so oh is that is that actually

00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.279
in here

00:30:46.080 --> 00:30:50.840
that was just me putting it in there go down

00:30:51.120 --> 00:30:55.919
i don't think it's in here it's somewhere it is somewhere wait wait down

00:30:54.480 --> 00:31:00.080
that down up slow down

00:30:57.600 --> 00:31:03.200
what that's not it it's not here i'm sure it's no it's not here right there

00:31:01.760 --> 00:31:08.880
wait what oh oh well okay then fine

00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:10.720
ah so moving right along um okay so we

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:14.799
encountered a couple of different articles uh when we were doing our news

00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:21.120
items for net linked weekly which is on the ncix channel one of which was that

00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:23.760
the forecast for pc sales which has

00:31:21.120 --> 00:31:27.200
already been adjusted down once at least once and has already been shown to be

00:31:25.679 --> 00:31:32.000
declining and this is disastrous and everyone's really worried has been

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:34.320
adjusted down again so pc sales are

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:37.600
seriously slowing also tablets are going oh well that was sort

00:31:36.159 --> 00:31:43.600
of okay well this is in line with another one of our articles as well so

00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:45.440
tablets are going to be out selling

00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:50.559
yeah that's i know i know but okay so the other trend is that tablets

00:31:47.679 --> 00:31:54.880
are going to outsell pcs for the first time i think in what was it 2016

00:31:53.679 --> 00:31:58.640
yes uh no wait what

00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:04.799
what what where is it that one that um that b-roll

00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:11.440
gave us what one table's gonna be able selling pcs yeah in some article that's what

00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:16.799
that's this article oh tablet shipments to outpace laptops in 2013. 2013

00:32:13.919 --> 00:32:22.480
right so here's the article from ign wow i'm honestly i am so tired

00:32:19.679 --> 00:32:27.200
yeah like i am just beyond tired okay so i'm just gonna let this do the

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:32.480
talking for me so blah blah blah tablet market growing so it's tablets will lead

00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:35.279
the entire pc market by 2015. granted the traditional pc isn't going anywhere

00:32:33.919 --> 00:32:41.039
yet but it's just another sign of an inevitable mobile dominated future uh

00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:44.640
idc continues to believe that pcs will have an important role in this new era

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:48.640
of computing especially among business newers units users

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:54.960
tablet shipments are expected blah blah blah 22 229.3

00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:57.120
million units in 2013. so all of this is

00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:03.600
looking sort of uh peachy keen for tablets but then vr zone had an article

00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:08.000
where they were saying out of uh over a thousand americans surveyed were given

00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:13.519
the option to give up for a year their pc

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:18.640
or their mobile phone tv

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.279
and was the third one tablet uh mobile phone

00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:26.240
tv tablet yeah or or other variations of that so what

00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:30.000
one could you go if you had to have only one which one would you have would you

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:34.559
have just your pc or would you have all that other stuff and the majority of

00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:39.440
them said if they had to go without for a year they need their pc

00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:42.240
more than they need their smartphone and their

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:45.360
uh and their tv and all these other things and that to me was really

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:49.919
interesting because we've talked about this before where the problem isn't the

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.760
utility of the pc keyboard and mouse like

00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:56.080
beast represent because it's still the best

00:33:53.760 --> 00:34:02.000
way to interact with the device and there will be leap motions and there

00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:03.519
will be you know uh oculuses and there

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:09.599
will be all of these things there will be more possibly um more entertaining ways yes

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:13.040
and there will be more ways to interact with your pc but when it comes to pure

00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:16.800
efficiency i mean that article that says oh well

00:34:14.720 --> 00:34:20.800
the pc will continue to be relevant for business users you know what regular

00:34:18.720 --> 00:34:25.919
people need to be efficient too we have lives we have other things to do

00:34:23.200 --> 00:34:30.960
we don't want to be like xbox turn on then change to channel 46

00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:36.240
you know how much faster i can be like power on 46

00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:38.079
talking is not fast direct input is kind of

00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:43.839
a winner so it's not going away and the reality

00:34:40.399 --> 00:34:46.399
of it is it's more to do with

00:34:43.839 --> 00:34:51.440
that lengthening upgrade cycle because your pc from three years ago is fast

00:34:48.399 --> 00:34:53.760
enough so many jokes hold that thought

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:57.200
so many jokes about my personal rig taking over a year for me to build it'll

00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:03.920
be obsolete by the time you finish this no it isn't a 3960x is still with the exception of

00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.640
the 3970x which is just a slight speed bump it's

00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:11.440
this same thing a 3960x is still the fastest

00:35:09.359 --> 00:35:18.480
desktop CPU you can buy i started that rig over a year ago

00:35:16.560 --> 00:35:23.200
we have a new CPU coming i can tell you right now probably that i won't be

00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:27.040
upgrading anytime soon so that's all i said i am not planning to

00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:30.800
upgrade my personal rig and for all they know it could be laziness

00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:34.720
um so so

00:35:32.240 --> 00:35:38.240
okay so that thought you had okay so basically everyone's just running their

00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:42.880
family pc that they bought five years ago because your mom and your dad who

00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:48.320
don't play video games don't care yeah because it's probably just as fast as it

00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:49.839
was to go on facebook and gmail and do

00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:53.920
whatever they were probably doing now this is a mass generalization personally

00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.480
my mom and dad play video games on their machines so they need more peace

00:35:55.520 --> 00:36:02.560
machines but most won't so most people are just running

00:36:01.040 --> 00:36:08.160
four or five-year-old pcs and have no intention of upgrading my family just downsized from their big house to an

00:36:06.160 --> 00:36:12.320
apartment and so it used to be there were lots of pcs in the house so they

00:36:10.240 --> 00:36:16.640
had a media pc my little brother had a pc in his room they had a family pc and

00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:20.240
the hallway nook all those things so they wanted to consolidate they wanted

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:24.480
one desktop machine in the house they still want a desktop it's not going away

00:36:22.640 --> 00:36:28.880
they all got laptops but they still want a desktop because it's just more

00:36:25.839 --> 00:36:30.800
comfortable so okay and so it's not

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:35.200
going away but between all those old pcs

00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:40.640
they had no complaints about their athlon x3 720 black edition which

00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:44.240
happens to be the one that i resurrected when the pin came off and i stuffed the

00:36:42.560 --> 00:36:48.640
pin into the socket and put the CPU on it it's still running to this day that

00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:51.920
is still my parents daily driver machine um they're perfectly happy with it the

00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:55.599
reality of it is there's not that much particularly from AMD that's that much

00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:59.680
faster unless you have something that takes advantage of more than three threads

00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:03.280
then my little brother asked me to take his gtx 275

00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:08.079
and throw that in the machine so that he could play games once in a while but doesn't have to have his own dedicated

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:12.960
desktop computer yeah i can still do it i was playing bf3 on a 260. and he

00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:18.480
didn't even care about the fact that he had an 8120 in his machine a faster chip

00:37:17.359 --> 00:37:24.079
six core didn't matter to him at all because nothing he does even takes advantage of

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:27.359
that i still want more cores because i'm video editing i'm a heavy multitasker as

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:32.000
you know like i'm one of the few people who actually can benefit from RAM who

00:37:30.640 --> 00:37:34.839
doesn't do like you know 3d rendering and it's all

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:43.119
browser tabs his laptop sits at like

00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:46.079
85 89 RAM usage you close chrome alone

00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:50.560
and it goes to 45. and i run five browsers

00:37:48.160 --> 00:37:55.040
there's a method to the madness i know ask me to find a tab but i could barely

00:37:52.640 --> 00:37:58.960
use your computer but it i don't care it's my computer i had to prep netlink

00:37:57.680 --> 00:38:04.400
weekly i had to make the powerpoint for netflix weekly and like opening a new

00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:09.119
tab would like lag out the laptop i'm like okay

00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:12.480
i understand you have every tab open you could possibly need but i have to

00:38:10.560 --> 00:38:15.599
actually do something else it's impossible

00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:24.000
man uh so like anyways um next topic i got

00:38:21.359 --> 00:38:27.200
wow i was very confused about that whole that whole topic you know what let's

00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:30.240
move into this gaming one i like this topic

00:38:28.240 --> 00:38:33.520
uh ceo resigns

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:37.280
square enix blah blah blah

00:38:35.040 --> 00:38:43.359
so basically while this loads square enix lost 130 it's 138 million yep yeah

00:38:40.640 --> 00:38:47.520
138 million dollars last year this is a wired.com article their ceo has resigned

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:52.480
a lot of their games aren't making the amount of money they needed

00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:55.040
or needed to yeah really needed to um they're blaming it on a few different

00:38:53.680 --> 00:39:00.720
things one of them is that they're apparently their us marketing is not as strong as they had hoped because games

00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:04.480
are selling 50 more in the eu um eu just seems hungrier these days in

00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:07.760
general though there's lots of stuff that sells better in the eu that i kind

00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:12.240
of look at and i go well you know what people in the eu have smaller houses

00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:16.640
so they don't need as many couches to fill their rooms with um i mean i think

00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.040
i think when it comes to things like consumer electronics the eu is more

00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:24.400
progressive and more willing to spend now that everything's small

00:39:23.200 --> 00:39:28.880
this brings back the thing we were talking about before in the 90s if something weighed a lot you're like oh

00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:32.880
that's quality yeah like big if something weighs a lot

00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.240
and it's big yeah and it was big now if something weighs a lot and it's big

00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:40.800
you're like wow that's cheap and not very good

00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:44.800
not always but often so mentality changing so the actual products seem to

00:39:42.560 --> 00:39:48.800
have caught up to the eu sort of ethos a little bit um so yeah they can blame it

00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:53.440
on that all they want but i personally call bs on that so carry on

00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:57.359
yeah yeah exactly um i don't know it spells a bad thing for

00:39:55.520 --> 00:40:01.200
video games because a lot of well depending on how you want to look at it

00:39:58.720 --> 00:40:04.720
but a lot of different publishers are on this routine where you spend a whole

00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:10.960
bunch of money you dedicate a whole bunch of people a whole bunch of resources you spend four years making a

00:40:07.680 --> 00:40:12.880
game yeah yeah like a long time a really

00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:16.560
big game and you hope it sells like crazy but right now in the ecosystem

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.480
we're currently in especially with consoles you're looking at indie games

00:40:18.720 --> 00:40:25.680
selling a lot because they're dirt cheap and hopefully don't take that long to

00:40:21.839 --> 00:40:28.800
make and just the core like very small

00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:30.960
unit of super aaa titles like skyrim

00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:34.480
call of duty stuff like that that's taking up all the rest of the pie so

00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.520
these games that should come in the medium to high range

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:42.800
are just not making it because it costs way too much to develop the game honestly i

00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:46.720
think part of it is to do with the fact that people are just fed up they're not

00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.079
gonna buy that sequel anymore i mean some of the examples that were given for

00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:55.359
games that didn't do as well as they needed them to were tomb raider and sleeping dogs

00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:59.920
and i'm just kind of sitting here going well okay um for one thing you gave away

00:40:58.160 --> 00:41:03.119
an awful lot of copies with Radeon graphics cards

00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:07.760
for both of those i mean if you guys think that you know AMD's paying 60 each

00:41:06.319 --> 00:41:11.760
for those games they're not not at all uh they are

00:41:09.839 --> 00:41:15.760
paying for them i know this for a fact but they're not paying that much for

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:20.079
them um there's the fact that i mean like you

00:41:17.839 --> 00:41:23.920
know how sick are people of tomb raider games not being that great even though

00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:27.200
it was good though yeah but it doesn't even matter at a certain point you're

00:41:25.359 --> 00:41:30.480
right that's like that's like okay so our local hockey team vancouver canucks

00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:35.520
every year well no we've got a really good team this year blah blah blah please come

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:38.960
watch us i'm tired of it i'm not going to watch anymore i don't care it's like

00:41:37.359 --> 00:41:43.440
okay yeah there's a great team like call call me and let me know when you win a stanley cup and

00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:46.160
so you know when when tomb raider wins game of the year at every possible

00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:50.800
publication you know maybe a year after that and it's like 19.99 on steam yeah i'll grab

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:58.240
it that's the mentality that's part of it too on the computer side especially is

00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:01.680
steam and origin and you play just going like ah it's been out for two weeks 50

00:42:00.319 --> 00:42:04.960
off yep and you're just like i love it because i

00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:08.560
can get so many games but on the developer side

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:13.760
yeah when you're spending millions upon millions upon millions of dollars and

00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:16.000
your your expected asking price is 60

00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:21.680
and the funny thing about game pricing is people complain about the 60 game

00:42:19.839 --> 00:42:27.280
games haven't gone up in price for like 10 20 years it's been a really long time

00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:32.800
one thing is some games that are coming out on uh ps4 and xbox one have shown up

00:42:30.240 --> 00:42:37.839
on amazon at a hundred dollars really for ps4 and xbox one only and every

00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:41.599
other platform way cheaper people are speculating that this is just because

00:42:39.200 --> 00:42:44.960
they don't they haven't updated the ps1 or

00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:49.359
too many numbers ps4 and xbox one pricing yet and they've only updated the

00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:54.319
other pricing but who knows if it's a hundred bucks a game for new platforms

00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:59.040
would you pay a hundred dollars for a video game it depends which one because

00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:03.520
lots of people have paid 100 many times over for wow for example yep in certain

00:43:01.839 --> 00:43:06.800
cases i would pay 100 for a video game not for everything though but and this

00:43:05.359 --> 00:43:13.280
uh this is in line with sort of one of the points that the article on wired made but if it's only certain cases

00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:16.640
we're going to be limiting the number of developers who can afford to make these

00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.960
massive massive undertakings of a project um

00:43:19.520 --> 00:43:26.400
down to a few that are going to be left standing i mean how long do you think square enix is going to stick around if

00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:29.280
they're losing 130 million a year the answer is not very long especially in a

00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:34.480
business model where it's not like they're going to run around and say oh no yeah this is the next big thing is

00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:38.160
what we've been doing for all these years all this time that isn't working it's not like they're going to get a

00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:42.960
bunch of investment to come in and revitalize them it's not how it actually

00:43:40.319 --> 00:43:46.960
works i i mean i would i would say that part of it is complacency i mean when

00:43:45.040 --> 00:43:51.599
you have franchises like final fantasy where you like you know squeeze out a

00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:55.839
gigantic turd and a bunch of people buy it i i think that teaches you a terrible

00:43:53.680 --> 00:43:59.920
lesson about what you have to do to succeed because it's been shown time and

00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:05.280
time again blizzard can survive based on this mentality

00:44:01.839 --> 00:44:07.599
yes and no blizzard has the

00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:10.400
tenacity to just destroy something if they don't think it's good enough they

00:44:08.560 --> 00:44:14.400
just did with titan well yeah but that's all that's a topic we haven't gone on to

00:44:11.839 --> 00:44:17.760
yet yeah i was going to say like what is ghost for example

00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:23.839
that's another applicable currently applicable um another thing is the like

00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:28.400
zerg rush insane current mentality of the internet where it's like oh new

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:31.599
games out everyone play it so fast because you'll get hit by spoilers and

00:44:30.160 --> 00:44:35.760
then forget about it because there's something on the other end

00:44:33.680 --> 00:44:39.200
so a whole bunch of people are buying it really quickly yeah that's what india's

00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:43.440
kind of done is it's increased the number of games something else something else

00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:48.960
something else there's always something new so wide dwindle and you can't get

00:44:46.640 --> 00:44:52.960
like 30 i guess it wasn't dlc back then but

00:44:50.560 --> 00:44:56.319
expansions right you can't get 30 expansion sales on your game that's been

00:44:54.480 --> 00:45:00.880
out for a year and a half because no one cares that's another thing that brings in day

00:44:58.720 --> 00:45:04.800
one dlc is sometimes now i'm not defending day one dlc yeah you better

00:45:02.720 --> 00:45:09.200
not do that mentality of the developer is is anyone gonna care in a while

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:12.240
right so we should probably release it sooner now i don't agree with day one

00:45:11.040 --> 00:45:15.520
because you should probably be developing this after you release your

00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:19.119
freaking game but you gotta release it fast or else no

00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:22.000
one's gonna care right you know i i mean i noticed this

00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:27.280
um i mean this has been the thing i guess for a while now actually because even

00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:31.760
games like supreme commander i played and then it was just kind of gone

00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.800
so unless it's like unless it's like a huge

00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.200
triple a title you're not going to get much of a shelf

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:43.119
life on the multiplayer experience because that used to be how you sold a game like remember when everyone looked

00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:46.319
at counter-strike as like oh we have to have a multiplayer component in our game

00:45:44.640 --> 00:45:49.680
so people will keep playing it and keep buying people still buy counter-strike

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:54.400
so that people will keep playing it and keep buying it for so long but then what

00:45:52.240 --> 00:45:58.079
happened is everyone did it and i don't think anyone's ever going to replicate

00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:02.400
the longevity of a game like counter-strike ever again and a lot of

00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:06.720
multiplayer games have no one on their servers and there's no one on the

00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:10.720
servers so it doesn't actually improve anything about the experience and um and

00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:16.400
i think we're just going to see that trend even continue and it's going to get worse because you look at aaa

00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:19.680
franchises like what is it uh i can't even remember if it's cod or battlefield

00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:23.839
or medal of honor it's one of those stupid games it's all the same where

00:46:21.680 --> 00:46:28.720
they have a yearly release cycle now yeah and assassin's creed there's

00:46:25.839 --> 00:46:33.760
another one yearly release cycle so they have to they're perpetuating this thing

00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:36.800
that has them dumping all these resources into making something that

00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:40.720
they were used to spending years crafting and then releasing and selling

00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.599
a bajillion of them to the point where they're trying to mass produce something

00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:48.240
and sell a bajillion of them because it's not like it costs less to make assassin's creed if you make it in a

00:46:46.319 --> 00:46:53.440
year versus if you make it in three years yes i know a little less i think i think

00:46:51.359 --> 00:46:58.000
part of it is going to come into i think releases for games are going to less be

00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:02.880
before when a new one came out it was often like new engine

00:47:00.240 --> 00:47:06.720
massive new storyline like new new new new everything was new huge platform

00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:10.079
change and then call of duty got away with just releasing the same game on the

00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:15.599
same engine overnight same engine and when you're when you're just changing

00:47:11.839 --> 00:47:15.599
maps well they do have a new dog though

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:21.119
when you're just changing maps and just changing locations and stuff

00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:25.920
yeah there's a lot of work that goes into it you're gonna add a few new guns you're gonna add maybe one more core

00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:30.960
game mechanic but it's not nearly as much as building a game from the ground up yeah okay that's true so i think that

00:47:29.680 --> 00:47:36.800
is gonna be a style that we're gonna see a lot more of so the Linus media group game will have cats in it

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:41.760
cats yeah and axes and helmets and dresses and yeah with tessellation

00:47:39.359 --> 00:47:44.640
all the tessellations yeah and realistic cat sound effects

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:55.280
let's see if he starts talking to us hey rumble no

00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:59.119
now now

00:47:56.240 --> 00:48:03.560
you come visit now he's so unsure right here

00:48:00.240 --> 00:48:03.560
there you go

00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:15.440
there he goes okay all right so uh do you want should we do like another

00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:19.599
twitter five minutes sure uh

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:24.480
should we go up and refresh yeah yeah let's go up and refresh so we're doing

00:48:21.359 --> 00:48:26.559
another blast of of twitter here guys

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:31.280
i highly disagree with cod and medal of honor oh can you change it to the

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:31.280
twitter thing scene two

00:48:32.319 --> 00:48:38.079
okay okay uh next

00:48:35.520 --> 00:48:43.200
why isn't it i i agree they're not

00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:46.960
they they're the same as each other no what do you mean no

00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.680
battlefield 3 is dramatically different from battlefield 2

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:54.160
oh oh oh yes but not each other as in battlefield

00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:57.599
is not the same as cod oh okay sure there's a huge difference there sure

00:48:56.240 --> 00:49:02.400
but they're very similar yeah there's a vehicle or whatever halo had a vehicle

00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:05.839
yeah banshees are awesome you don't play

00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:09.359
modern FPS games that much i've played battlefield 3 for like 10

00:49:08.240 --> 00:49:14.000
minutes yeah no i played longer than that actually i

00:49:12.319 --> 00:49:17.680
did play battlefield 3 probably i have like four or five hours oh okay like i

00:49:16.319 --> 00:49:20.880
played it i just don't care i thought it was pretty fun

00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:25.680
there are guns you point them at the other guys hardcore mode was neat this guy liked a video so that's pretty

00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:28.880
important okay first time catching live stream hi justin hello

00:49:29.359 --> 00:49:35.440
your pricing hasn't changed but people's mentality has people see that if you

00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:39.200
wait two weeks you get yeah exactly yep exactly

00:49:36.640 --> 00:49:42.880
um okay so sometimes you can still grab people with pre-order incentives and

00:49:41.520 --> 00:49:46.640
other than that people are just waiting until the 50 off because it's coming

00:49:44.720 --> 00:49:49.440
quick because it's coming uh sheldon says you'll pay a hundred and fifty

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:54.000
bucks for the next elder scrolls would you pay a hundred and fifty dollars for that i think i paid more than 150 for

00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:56.960
the last one oh yeah okay

00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:01.920
so yeah because i got the big one with the dragon and everything right of course

00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.920
you did and the player's guide and okay next next one next one sorry i know you

00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:10.160
love elder scrolls geez uh tornadoes suck that's unfortunate uh should i get

00:50:07.839 --> 00:50:15.200
a gtx 780 or another we already answered that question from someone else final

00:50:12.160 --> 00:50:16.240
final fantasy hopefully some other games

00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:20.160
uh you know what i think that square enix

00:50:18.319 --> 00:50:23.200
is best hope at this point because they don't seem to be able to figure out how

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:26.880
to make final fantasy anymore would be to just keep re-releasing old ones we

00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:31.200
release old ones with like awesome graphics not just like oh yeah we we

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:35.200
tried to hd the textures a little bit like completely rebuild it make awesome

00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:39.839
graphics yeah i bet a rebuilt uh final fantasy vii would sell like hot cakes oh

00:50:37.040 --> 00:50:39.839
yeah i'm sure

00:50:41.680 --> 00:50:48.480
you want to read it no it's okay moving right along okay

00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:53.119
flats apartments people are willing to pay more for something it takes less space yes these aren't really questions

00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:56.480
let's let's skip to the questions okay well that's a question

00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:03.200
go well okay do you want me to read it yeah hello Linus and also slick i have two

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questions first what water cooling should i get for my i5 3570k i'm stumped

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that's one question go i don't

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i'm is xox works or is that is he trying to freeze that as a question no that's

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like kisses and hugs yeah okay h220 go go go go go h220 go pcs are

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declining in sales because everyone is building their own with parts no that's actually not it gta 5 i thought it was

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already confirmed a really long time ago okay oh pc confirmed yeah i'm pretty

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sure it was confirmed a while ago okay not a question

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chrome using so much RAM because okay not a question are there any good cherry

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green keyboards out at the moment or coming soon go the cm storm trigger is

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it's just a trigger i think it's a trigger same storm trigger with greens although it's very hard to get so good

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luck yeah not much stock uh i have a 2600k sorry though um thanks

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for the good luck i believe they put when are you gonna

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finish the home computer build it's actually done i just haven't made a video about it

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well you still have to do the yeah so it's like as close to done as you

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could possibly be without being done yeah uh i7 930 is beast so yep okay let's go

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back up to the top let's see if we got any new questions because none of these are questions

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44 new interactions okay speed twitter uh did you like darkest of days never

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played it never played it okay i really like the new forum okay nope not a question

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not a question favorite energy drink go i don't uh talon i don't drink them okay

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next how can i have four titan gpus with a

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sound and raid card two and one build you can't don't

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yeah just don't don't yeah will dlc be on the

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be the only future of video games

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will dlc be the only future um downloadable games is possibly the only

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future of video games getting hard copies of games will very possibly go

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the way of lps where you can still do it but it's a very high premium there won't

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be very many of them and it's going to be special order yeah like i wonder if it would almost be like you know someone

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would get a license to like you know download it and print it and

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like you know make a box for it it would very possibly

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so there'll be like niche like web stores yeah um the global legacy are you

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going to do videos on the new AMD apos yes sebastian asks nothing to do but my

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country a 680 okay good for you uh summer pc completely new build maxing

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out actual games budget go

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1300 1400 that's always a very good price range to

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play around with especially if it's a summer pc where you're just saving up

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i'm taking that in the context of you're saving up money over the summer you're

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working for the summer going back to school 1300 1400 is a very good budget

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for that when can we expect the 716 how much will

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it cost do i look like a magician don't no don't know okay

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i've would you recommend hybrid physics uh

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seven no no i wouldn't recommend running a 640 as a dedicated physx card at all

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i'm building an matx computer can you recommend a motherboard

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um 1155 go yeah the ASUS one the

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that's m-a-t-x sorry m-a-t-x i don't know a board yeah

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i don't usually worry about my board too much with matx board builds

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i usually just like focus on CPU and GPU and then just kind of z77 chipset

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can't go wrong yeah okay i have a Windows home server running on an ASUS

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z77 itx deluxe i'm having trouble installing drivers help

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simran i i can't help you with that right now download them on a different

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machine like a laptop or something you speed them over go to linustechtips.com

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post it in the troubleshooting forum yeah there we go and market best answer

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if someone gives you a good answer yeah do you know if we're going to be seeing any reference 770s in the near future i

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like it better than the other coolers actually i have no idea

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because like no one is doing reference 770s with this week no everyone's doing

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like winforce or direct cue or whatever it's a sweet cooler

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cooler it's freaking awesome i know but it's a lower price point card until

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someone comes in and is able to somehow utilize the light bar that's an

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incredibly expensive cooler like i can understand but someone couldn't someone

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utilize that lighting bar and evga's led technology

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led software on an aftermarket cooler that'd be kind of cool that would be

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cool that's what i'm waiting for someone to do that somehow what do you think of gtx 770 over 680 do you think

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performance is too close to justify the 770

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uh personally yes okay i say wrong question because they are not caught

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they don't cost the same cost the same they're not even in the same direct tier

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it's it's slightly awkward so yeah 770 is not an upgrade for someone with a

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680. it's not even positioned that way yeah you're going off to your yeah like

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a 680 is replaced by a 780 yeah a 780 is

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an upgrade and a good upgrade yes

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uh what do you think about the surface pro it's it's cool but not that many people

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have the proper use case for it in my opinion uh if you're if you're something

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like a programming student i could see it uh

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other than that i actually don't know way too many if you need to run a

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desktop application but it's not super super heavy

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kind of cool but the amount of use cases for that like i just said not very high

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hi from ireland guys any suggestion for a good keyboard or mouse for around 100

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that would be a good for a first-time pc gamer

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um you're in ireland so i don't know your prices

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100 euros is basically like yeah but then i don't know how much stuff costs

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there because i find oh that's right yeah i don't know Linus tech tips.com

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forum go yeah keyboard and mouse section

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the word feature proof sucks we don't know things can change a lot but you'll

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probably be fine okay um my cat was meowing with you guys

00:56:47.839 --> 00:56:54.319
sweet awesome okay let's see if we've got any more topics that we need to

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finish up exposed

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oh uh you can i'm gonna see if we have

00:56:58.160 --> 00:57:03.599
another topic xbox home i wonder how many people just got

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disconnected probably none because none of them have xboxes because they're pc gamers

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i hope someone is watching on their xbox members of the pc gaming i really hope i

00:57:12.160 --> 00:57:18.880
just disconnected someone i'm kind of not that sorry if i just disconnected

00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:21.920
you but that would be hilarious i hope someone

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is oh let's talk about the uh

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:31.440
where is it oh i can't find anything what are you looking for back to the

00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:34.960
drawing board blizzard unannounced mmo go go okay so titan blizzard's been

00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:38.559
working on it for a while this article said they had 100 people on it and last

00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:42.720
week we talked about how they moved 150 people to their team yeah so it seems

00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:47.440
like there's some mixed messages going on with uh with titan but basically uh

00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:51.040
the first kind of news about it came out around what was it 2011

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i think i think they kind of announced like the name that's about it i don't

00:57:52.799 --> 00:57:57.680
think they ever announced the name i believe that was leaked oh so so

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basically they've been working on it for a while it was

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um you know they they were talking about how we're putting our best developers on

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:10.319
it we're gonna blow everyone's socks off um blizzard has delayed the unannounced

00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:14.000
mmo actually the article here is a little bit sensationless in some ways

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it's on venturebeat.com it says delays unannounced mmo until 2016. i

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i didn't see a quote from anyone from blizzard that said it's going to come

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out in 2016. so there isn't one this is a 100 speculation about date yeah they

00:58:25.040 --> 00:58:33.359
actually there is and that's their headline like come on guys there's a quote saying that there is not a date

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yes so so yeah there's no date but what

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has been confirmed is that much of the titan team has been reallocated to other

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projects um

00:58:42.160 --> 00:58:46.400
the core team is still there yes core teams still there they're gonna work on

00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:50.400
redesign they're gonna change it they weren't happy with it yeah they're blowing it up and they're redoing it i

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:54.000
would way way rather than they did this that they

00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.839
did this then release something that wasn't up to par i like it when people

00:58:56.240 --> 00:59:01.520
take the time to release a good i mean it's nice to have the luxury to have

00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:05.200
that constant stream of revenue from wow a game that you made like a 000 years

00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:08.319
ago yeah a lot of people couldn't do this but it's it's cool that they are

00:59:06.640 --> 00:59:13.520
like square enix doesn't even have this option like if tomb raider was you know

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:16.400
80 percent done being built and it wasn't good enough they'd still have to

00:59:15.200 --> 00:59:20.720
release it and and that i mean has

00:59:18.720 --> 00:59:24.240
i mean the the brutal industry that is game development has killed the brutal

00:59:22.640 --> 00:59:27.760
industry that is game development and in the long run run i mean blizzard valve

00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:32.799
these are gonna be the only ones left and i'm not even convinced valve's a game dev anymore

00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:37.839
when's the last time they made a game yeah it's been a while it's like it

00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:41.599
feels like it yeah yeah yeah it's like it's a side project

00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:44.240
like hey gabe if you're watching they're amazing i'm still waiting for episode

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:49.839
three honestly though when we were playing with the uh with the oculus and the omni

00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:52.559
and like playing half-life 2 a little bit there i was like oh yeah this is a

00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:55.040
good game i wish there was another one like this

00:59:56.319 --> 01:00:02.720
yeah i know so so yeah uh what's going to be left

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valve yeah sports games um holy cow cat your cat um

01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:16.480
yeah i don't know probably some crazy mobile developer

01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:22.319
yeah so that's sad one thing i want to call it before we go into something else is

01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:24.799
we've been having some email issues uh we're getting capped on the amount of

01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:31.280
emails we can see with the forum you've got to give context for stories we've been having email issues

01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:35.680
i'm tired man we've been having email issues with the forum we're getting capped on the amount we can properly

01:00:34.240 --> 01:00:41.680
send so with all the massive amount of giveaways

01:00:38.240 --> 01:00:44.640
that just went out we hit our cap for

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yeah we just destroyed our cap so server's not exactly going to be happy

01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:51.520
with sending out emails right now so if you do have a problem please send an

01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:58.079
email to info linusmediagroup.com and ask for say say

01:00:56.079 --> 01:01:02.799
your your account you're not able to log in for whatever reason send an email

01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:06.160
there whatever we will try to fix that sorry about the email issues

01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:10.559
and yeah happy to say that we're quite stable lately

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okay well i think we're gonna we're gonna probably cut the live stream now

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so thank you guys very much for tuning in all 3 500 of you which is actually

01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:25.359
phenomenal um there will not be an after party today because we will be packing

01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:29.280
up for our trip to computex stay tuned on the youtube channel for the video

01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:32.640
that's coming up which is ridiculous announcing all the cool prizes that

01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:36.720
we're going to be giving away courtesy of western digital who's powering our

01:01:34.240 --> 01:01:40.240
trip to computex in addition to Corsair as well as ncix

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and um peace out

01:01:44.640 --> 01:01:52.559
because i'm leaving on a jet plane i don't know when i'll be

01:01:50.799 --> 01:01:56.480
back again actually i'll be back on the ninth and i don't know the rest of that

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song
