all right guys welcome to the live stream sorry for the late start uh
honestly excuses aside this is my excuse
it has been the craziest week ever
at Linus media group it has actually been
10 minutes yeah like i i've i think i've slept about
five hours the last two nights combined you probably haven't done that much
better not much better a little bit but not much better so for those of you who
haven't been paying attention to the videos lately in the last two weeks
we've had gtx 780 launch gtx 770 launch
um in the next week there's a major
launch coming from Intel
i mean well is there any point even okay haswell
launching it computex AMD's richland apu's are launching
sometime in the next week uh something else is going oh right well
we've been packing to go to computex we're moving we're moving so
there's a video up on the channel right now showing our new digs
uh so so we've we've partially moved
it's amazing we're still alive never mind that we're streaming
this could be a recording and we're actually dead right now or we are in the very process of dying
and this is the last footage this could be like because you know there's always
like the last picture yeah or like like like the album of like the scraps
that they recorded and weren't good enough but then they can like yeah cash
money yeah or like uh tolkien's like scribblings that they apparently turned
into a movie at some point
no come on some of the stuff in the hobbit
is unacceptable a pretty good movie though i still liked the movie spoiler alert
no there's dumb stuff okay yeah that was it
look at what he's doing i know he's like playing with the backpack
i don't even have the uh i don't even have the live stream sheet up here but
oh you know what it's okay is my word is keyboard working i don't think so i
don't know if it's from oh there's a light on it there's a light on it that's usually a good sign
yeah not working all right
okay so we'll just have to lean forward and operate the computer there but uh
let's get into it so topic number one is Linus media group at computex and yeah
we're gonna do the build logs from last week don't worry we know it cut out uh
salinas media group at computex um if you saw any of our ces coverage then
you'll probably have some idea what's coming a lot is coming however there are
going to be some changes this time around so number uno
is that oh crap
i don't know if our wi-fi is working hopefully it is i'm on wi-fi okay have
you noticed that i'm streaming that's good that's a good strategy okay
um cool so that's right so there's going to
be a couple changes number one is we're taking a larger group this time so it's
going to be me slick diesel
and b-roll so we're going to have four people so
instead of having one team of four people that's responsible for running
around and doing meetings and running around to suites and going to the show
floor and like doing all this crazy stuff we're gonna be mostly focused on
covering the show we're going to do a little bit of more like uh travel
blogging while we're there this is going to be the first time either i or slick
have ever been to asia so evidently they have food there
and that's something that you should try or
shouldn't try either way it'll be hilarious yeah blind taste testing of food is
probably gonna be i don't know if i'm comfortable with that really i don't
know if i trust diesel we won't we should probably get b-roll to do it
yeah because i think b-roll would actually try to not harm us
yeah i don't know if i could trust these will not actually hurt us yeah
like he it might be just like maybe it's like 20 minutes of intense pain
but like i think he'd be okay without dying yeah yeah i don't think he tried
to kill us but like if we were uncomfortable i think he
would that would that would float his boat a little bit fine yeah um
so we'll we'll see on that one but we're going to do that we're also going to be doing
some crazy giveaways so
along with sort of the the okay so there's a 4770k giveaway right now and
that one you have to sign up sometime and i think you've got like two days to
retweet this tweet and then post your link in the forum and show us that you
did it and then you have a chance to win a 4770k uh there's four htc phones we're
giving away over the next month htc was just phenomenally generous with that one
i mean four phones they were like oh do you want to do a giveaway i'm like yeah
that'd be kind of cool they're like how's four phones i'm like
uh yeah let's get this going because the forums growing really fast they want to
support the community and then timmytechtv so youtube.com timmytechtv
go subscribe any subscriber of timmytechtv who is also a member of the
Linus tech tips forum can have a chance to win of course their 900d canada and
us only for that one though um okay so we've got all those giveaways in
addition to that i have a video that i'll be releasing later tonight
that has over ten thousand dollars in prizes that western
digital is helping us source and and
give away through the Linus tech tips forum um in a dish in in exchange for
hitting certain view targets so you guys gotta all work with me here and share
the content that we make from the wd booth and computex because the more
views we get the more amazing crazy stuff that we get to give away in the
few weeks after we get back from computex so
guys watch the video tonight make sure that you uh make sure you check that out
also it's like just a ridiculous video it's the stupidest thing we've ever made
by far superman helmet dress axe yeah
all these words they don't make any sense right now and they won't make any sense later
like at all yeah just
uh so computex show coverage you guys also said that you liked some of the
coverage that slick did at ces so slick
covered uh sony's big tv thing or samsung's big tv thing rather than
the uh the tv that was like going to redefine
redefine the like the aspect ratio of your tv but it's actually a display
thing just on it's like it was like virtual art was digital signage and it
was just rotated i was like really it's like oh
people have already done this rain hurts um like i remember back when
i got my 9600 all in wonder built into the driver you could right
click and rotate your display 20 degrees
and i was like oh that's kind of cool and then i never used it because why would you well digital science digital
signage yes and like there's some i know sometimes
um like like programmers and stuff and
people that read read it a lot those are the only two people i know that do this but you just like if you're a hardcore
enough redditor that your monitor is right now
like in one internet for you people do that
oh i believe it i believe it um and like i've seen where someone will have like
monitor like this and then monitor like this on each side
so they can have like their main viewing monitor for games or whatever and then
like reddit code or whatever reddit like certain
things that go very well vertically awesome like people do it okay so the
thing we're doing differently you guys said you liked slick's content so we are
gonna be splitting into two teams team a is gonna be me and diesel and we
are gonna go around and do all the really cool stuff and then
i mean i mean well come on no it's true probably i just didn't have to say it
you're just gonna shotgun everything but i wanted to say it yeah so so we're
gonna have an a team and a b team so diesel and i are gonna do our own thing
covering the show and then slick and b-roll are gonna be the b team and let
me tell you there is going to be some heavy competition between a team and b
team for who gets like the coolest content to bring to you guys and who's
driving you know the most engagement from the viewers and the most excitement
and sort of covering the show best for you guys i
expect now we did 56 videos at ces if i
recall correctly i will be floored if we don't bring you guys another 50 or 60
videos from computex giving you the most complete coverage that we possibly can
so many of you just really inspired us with your comments on the ces coverage
so i really wanted to do it again considering knowing you it's going to be
a competition there's probably going to be more than that
yeah yeah probably yeah yeah and i i mean just one more thing that i want to
say is in addition to the prices that wd is providing us to give away wd is our
gold sponsor our main sponsor for our trip to computex they've been phenomenal
they are the reason that we are able to go we do have a couple other sponsors so
corsairs vengeance peripherals are well okay Corsair but uh we're going to be
talking mostly about their vengeance gaming peripherals they are contributing
in a big way to having us there as well and we're actually going to be doing some coverage of their overclocking
event while we're over there and then our third sponsor is none other than
ncix.com a store that if you follow me you have probably heard of
probably mostly they're in canada i'm in canada which makes sense also they have
computer stuff that's yeah they kind of have all the computer
stuff yeah and they ship worldwide now so there
these are all good things so so it's going to be western digital Corsair and
ncix powering our trip to computex in fact we're even going to be producing
some ncix tech tips videos that we're going to send back to those guys so they
can put it on the nci xcom channel if you're not subscribed to ncix tech tips
make sure you do that because some of our content is going to go over there
for ncix so that they have some awesome coverage of the show as well
i think that was pretty much all i wanted to say look you can see rumble moving behind you just over your
shoulder in the camera yeah right here yeah yeah it's like it's like rumble
what's your problem honey you wanna come visit
yeah you want to visit come on come here he's having trouble finding a
path come on come on so okay our next topic is going to be
build logs of the week but for last week we may do a bit of a shorter live stream
this week guys just because we are supposed to be at the airport in six
hours um and we i don't know about you but i haven't really packed
uh i've packed a little bit yeah not nearly enough i
packed all the super obvious stuff yeah so like the actual hard part of packing
still has to be done yeah like the part where it's like did i remember my
toothbrush because that would be bad
those kinds of things like i have a list down there on the floor that's all the things that i need to
pack and i like have none of them so yeah so we have to we have to actually
pack um and i mean we have to try to pack things that neither
hi sweetie you want kisses
you want to come visit he's like where are you going yeah i know oh he was so
cute last night um my wife had my
suitcase open on the floor and every time he sees that suitcase i i think he
knows that i'm going somewhere because it's never her who goes anywhere and he
goes and he sits himself in the suitcase until it gets so full to the point where
you have to physically remove him from it to put more stuff in it and then he
goes and sits on the stuff in it until you close it
it's so cute it's like please i i can has come with you please
oh poor baby he's gonna be so lonely
oh sweetheart okay i know anyone who thinks cats don't care
about their owners has not met this particular cat because
valid comparison against dogs though he loves he loves very deeply
come on rumble's also kind of different i haven't met very many rumble special
tacular yeah okay so right build log all right let's
switch to scene whatever it is nope wow what is this for a limited time
and then you did that last week too what is this because your tactical rifle
totally needed an iphone stretch oh i know what it is it's because we oh oh
rumble please don't walk on that keyboard nope nope
it's because we disconnect this monitor in between streams that's the problem
so so the thing that happens is uh don't
mess up the nice pro art uh okay well i can't figure out how this
is gonna work so whatever let's talk about we just open it yeah build logs
that's going to give really crappy pictures yep oh wow
well i guess you guys will have to uh you guys will have to sort of get the
point here so this is silent cure by jim
star87 now we are using a bit of a different
method for showing build logs of the week these days because it was very very
sort of brutal and time consuming to show them the way that they were before
and we've had problems with them just crashing the stream out right due to
i don't know just complete and utter stupidity that we
can't figure out so uh slick you want to cover this one
all right so basically this one's just absolutely insane if you pay attention
to the color of the liquid you could tell that he actually has two loops
going on you're pointing with your finger at the screen again
he has two loops going on so you see all the blue tubing and then there's green
here there's another reservoir that's off the screen over here in the front of
his case and there's pump pump SSD
there's just one of the reasons why i like this build so much is just just so
much stuff usually when we get build logs of the week that we pick um there's
just a graphics card that's when he's got a graphics card a sound card three
reservoirs two pumps ssds all over the place if you go check his actual build
log there's even more he's got tracers because more lights
might as well do it he's got just tracer memory yeah yeah that's what you
meant he's got all the different colored everything and
i believe those are uv lights i don't remember it's a very very low res image
yeah awesome awesome awesome rig though guys go check it out and make sure that
you're following the build log section of the forum and then our next one here
neon splash by crab creations and google
drive completely butchered the colors on this one oh did it really yeah that's
actually really unfortunate okay hold on let's see if we can figure this out guys
we've never really tried this before if you if you download it
how do you how do you download it file right here
yeah okay open so
oh you made it a powerpoint yeah why'd you make it a powerful we talked about
this and we decided to make it a powerpoint well i didn't decide that you
did oh for crying out loud the slideshow is playing on our other monitor because
it's the primary monitor it's probably bigger you're going to be freaking kidding me oh there you go wow that's
gorgeous yeah so it's crazy he's sticking up look at the stickers on the
side he's sticking up his graphics card but
uv lights all over the place his power supply has freaking like orange and
green uv sleeving on it it's
nuts both the builds this week were just like tripping balls yeah just completely
tripping balls so another very cool build he has stuff
that doesn't appear in the picture just like the previous guy so please go to
the forum check out the build logs of the week thread that windspeed created
and view these guys actual builds because like this guy changed the led of
his power button to yellow and like changed the window and changed
the stripping on the window and like he did a bunch of other stuff just because
it wasn't ridiculous enough yet might as well add more craziness and the previous
one had a whole bunch of other things as well so please actually check those both
out now i've seen some complaints that we're not doing enough twitter q a so
someone's suggestion was that we do like uh like like twitter blitz where we
answer as many questions as we can for five minutes so guys
send your questions we promise not to get sidetracked we're gonna do one topic
then we're going to go to twitter and we're going to burn our way through as many of them as we can
now we're going to have people trying to side track us with like huge topics we're going to
ignore huge topics because we're not going to be able to tell we'll give super short very annoying answers yeah
we'll be like no pasta pasta you just copied me
that was my idea pasta lasagna that is
i haven't fired you in a while but
you're getting close i liked that answer it was good
it was good yeah but it's my answer
in a slightly different way okay so let's do let's do a short news item
while we uh while we wait to move on to that so we're going to close this uh
this thing no remove the files i've saved the files i need all right so
google has basically come out and said
if governments want google to pay more taxes they should change their tax laws
he has a good point well hold on you should explain the context of the article so this is an article from
bgr.com and go because you brief
yourself on this one more than me uh google facebook whole bunch of other
companies have different ways of
legal tax evasion and they've got a bit of a reputation like you know the
general sort of person kind of looks at and goes well i have to pay taxes why
don't these massive corporations with their buckets and buckets of money have
to pay taxes well because they know legal ways to not
pay taxes they're not actually breaking the law they're just doing a whole bunch
of shady things that you wouldn't think are legal
and you wouldn't think you should be able to do them but they are able to do
them so basically google is saying why should we
like just pay random money when we're following the law already
why shouldn't you change your laws so it actually makes us do this but i mean i
think there's a fear that changing the laws will drive that business out of the
countries but on the other hand i mean you look at and you go well what is you know google
going to pack up and like move their hq to nigeria i don't think so
um like there's countries in the world that don't have taxes i mean what so
they basically said if the british system changes the tax laws then we will
comply this doesn't only apply to great britain though i mean this is uh this is
just in general there's a lot of ways to okay so here for example i know that if
you're a homeowner and you can re-configure
your down payment for another place and you can sort of tinker around with the
system there's a way that you can pay off your mortgage using pre-tax income
rather than using after-tax income which here in canada is about we we get
anywhere between about 27 and about 40 percent personal income tax before any
sales tax so just like right off the top so being able to do that would allow you
to pay down your mortgage much faster and the problem is just that
most people don't know these tricks but when you're a huge company and it
actually costs less to hire a team of lawyers for several millions of dollars
per month than it would to pay those taxes which would be potentially tens or
even hundreds of million dollars or whatever whatever it would work out to
then that's the way you go and at the end of the day the only ones
getting rich in the world as far as i can tell are couriers and lawyers yeah
and they're in like cahoots oh yeah you know how you still have to courier
around legal documents
i'm on to you guys
oh man um okay so let's do our let's do
our twitter did you have anything to add to that one at all
uh no not really okay well we agree actually i don't think we ever said that
yeah no yeah we we kind of agree he has a point if the laws are wrong and the
laws are antiquated and there are loopholes it's
it it is what it is it's like if a restaurant says all you can eat and
someone comes in and eats all they can eat and then the restaurant's like well we
didn't want you to take that much food it brings up the same like if if you
could apply the logic where it's like oh they should just do it or whatever then
unlimited data how unlimited data isn't actually unlimited i hate that yeah
unlimited anything where it's like unlimited yeah it's actually 2 000. i'm
like well that's not actually unlimited
so there you go uh okay so
twitter q a time
let's go ahead and i think my phone battery just died
all right so okay Corsair k60 or question mark um neither
of us are really cherry mx red guys so i think we would probably go question mark
however the k60 does have some cool things about it um
i've really liked the build quality for example i think that metal backplate
that's absolutely gorgeous you should but if i was going to do it i'd go k70
you should yeah you should go to a store you should try
and get them to find keyboard boxes that don't have stickers or anything or or
wrapping so that you can open them and you should try all the different switches before making a decision yeah
because just because we don't prefer reds doesn't mean that a lot of people
don't prefer reds because a lot of people do yep okay why don't we do these
uh why don't we do these sort of one one after the other so you do the next one
thoughts on use thoughts on ufc favorite fighters
uh georgetown pierre capture the news
what's richland they exist yeah they're slightly better than the
old ones yeah but not by a ton well they're technically still under embargo
i think but whatever
okay any plans for budget builds on ncix linguine um
yeah i don't know what to tell you about that because i don't really understand
what you mean okay he doesn't do those i'm up next yeah i think he's talking
about the pre-done oh yeah no i don't configure those anymore um
okay which is better for gaming and color repli production tft panel or ips panel
tft is just another way of saying lcd and an ips is a type of lcd so
he's probably talking about ta tn tn there we go yeah he probably means
tn so tn is technically better for gaming because of faster pixel response
times but ips is way better for color reproduction and you can get some ips
panels that have really really good response time okay uh you're up
can i get a shirt uh happy birthday kadeem something terrick asks why are
you setting up your business in another house and not leasing a commercial space
um well for investment reasons so in the
in the longer term i can't afford to actually buy a commercial space that's
big enough for what we'd need but not so small that
it's just kind of stupid and has no sort of exit strategy
whereas a home is pretty easy to deal
with particularly here in the lower mainland where
for all the talk about the bubble bursting it it still hasn't
so they've been talking about bubble bursting for years and it hasn't come to it i mean it might at some point but the
reality of it is i can absorb it anyway so see how it goes
here you go how much did you budget for your overall build if you want to include a 70 780 go
you can variable it quite a bit what i would do is go to any website and add it
to the cart add the applicable processor so depending on if you're gaming or not
you're getting an i5 or an i7 and then build around it and just
try to figure it out okay what would you what would you tell someone
eighteen hundred two grand eighteen hundred two grand i'd say you could probably do it for and 50. probably but
you're sacrificing quite a few you're probably sacrificing but if you were willing to put it in like a cardboard
box yeah and honestly you could build a build around a 780 and like ignore a
case with a little bit build it on top of your motherboard and then like you
can get a few things at the end like get your case get some more fans like you can finish the build later because 780
is pretty freaking awesome uh sheldon says slick is a hologram and your wall
needs an isotropic filtering i think it stops slick is actually fired that's why
he's a hologram oh what uh
quick go go should i have to go okay why don't i read out the questions because
you can't read them from here can you no not very well i kind of can but it's
just should i upgrade to a 780 or buy another 680
uh with all the things going with the sli although sli is not having as many
problems as crossfire not nearly as many yeah and with how absolutely insanely
beast mode 780 has been i would probably go for 780 and sell the 680 so get some
of your return on that i don't know much about sound cards what
do i need to look for when buying one buy an ASUS zonar get the best one that
you can afford in your price range good to go
if you can get sorry read it flashing your router with custom firmware do it
or not if you can get ddwrt or tomato it's freaking awesome do it okay
why does slick shirt look all funny on the stream we don't know
when are you getting your hands on the gtx 790 uh we can't comment on
unreleased products thoughts on alps key switches i saw this
one so i was saving this one for you and i haven't actually used any but from
what i've heard they're pretty good but most people seem to prefer a certain
type of cherry as far as i have seen but again no personal usage speaking of
which i asked cooler master we can get cherry mx greens as soon as they stop
selling every single one that hits their warehouse i've heard about that so there
you go um joshua what will you name your new
place Linus media group hq is boring call it something like Linus's awesome
unboxing cave um
uh i i don't know um someone asks favorite thread on the
forum uh i think i like the memes thread gotta be the meme side also
slick take off your shirt expose your nips
no will you get an easy 87 MSI motherboards um should at some point we
don't have any yet we're mostly focused on ASUS for this launch
um alexa 780. oh i didn't read it yet what
do you like about the new NVIDIA 700 series graphics card slick 780 is an
absolute beast if you check out benchmarks it basically ties or comes
slightly below titan many times and the price delta between those two makes it a
very very good choice other than that we haven't had a ton of experience with
them okay should i wait for 800 series to arrive or go with 700 series choice
is yours no one knows how the 800 series will perform so and no one knows when
it's coming so yeah no one knows
esther and crazy russian at an AMD event when are you gonna visit markham ontario
i'll take this one um no idea the google tax law thing was because
they want a level playing field yeah good yes
how often should you upgrade your system to stay competitive in modern games go
uh usually i find around two and a half three years however that's changing
yeah which will lead us into our next real topic so
um okay do you want me to cover how that's changing sure okay so that's changing
because it used to be that things were altering the landscape
was altering so fast that by the time
you know two years had rolled around we'd seen a couple major major
improvements in either CPU performance or GPU performance and sometimes both to
the point where game developers who are working on their games in order to have
them run well on future hardware at least they used to um
what they were designing their games for was hardware that you couldn't get yet
so you were upgrading really often to even keep up and be able to play the games the way that they were meant to be
played not to say that you were necessarily playing them on NVIDIA hardware but the way that the game
developer intended that's changing um slick's running
a sandy bridge CPU slick's dad is running a bloomfield CPU
which is like five generations ago at this point and there is no game that the
CPU can't handle even graphics cards to a much lesser
extent we used to expect a 50 plus
improvement in performance when we went up a generation in graphics card notable
exceptions included things like fx 5800 to 5900 okay that that was that was oh
man that was terrible um but going from something like 5900 to
6800 or 6800 to 7800 7800 to 7 900 was a
small one but 7 800 up to gtx 280. these
were huge huge improvements in performance since
280 we haven't seen that again we've seen sort of
30 here in there particularly since fermi fermi was probably the last big
huge leap because 480 to 580 was very incremental 580 to 680 was incremental
but still very strong especially given the price point it was coming in at and
68 to 780 is very strong given the price point blah blah blah blah but it's not
like it's not a complete game changer like the games that you couldn't even
run before on that last flagship card
ran great on the new one it's not it's not really like that anymore so to ask
how often to upgrade to stay competitive i mean the answer is what do you need to
be competitive i've encountered people who were playing at like 640 by 480 on
an onboard GPU who can destroy me in counter-strike in spite of the fact that
at the time i was running at sixteen hundred by twelve hundred crt a nineteen
inch which was like awesome and i had uh you know an athlon
64 x2 actually hold on i don't think
no wrong timing for that so i had an athlon 64. you know 3200 plus with like
you know it was claw hammer and t-rex's whatever i had like a beast
machine great monitor yeah i was totally useless against them so whether you can
be competitive or not is actually up to you but it's it can still help you're
running a sandy bridge three years later are you even tempted to upgrade it no
so that time is uh is stretching
um which leads us to our discussion topic was that five minutes
i think it was about five minutes cool all right so oh is that is that actually
in here
that was just me putting it in there go down
i don't think it's in here it's somewhere it is somewhere wait wait down
that down up slow down
what that's not it it's not here i'm sure it's no it's not here right there
wait what oh oh well okay then fine
ah so moving right along um okay so we
encountered a couple of different articles uh when we were doing our news
items for net linked weekly which is on the ncix channel one of which was that
the forecast for pc sales which has
already been adjusted down once at least once and has already been shown to be
declining and this is disastrous and everyone's really worried has been
adjusted down again so pc sales are
seriously slowing also tablets are going oh well that was sort
of okay well this is in line with another one of our articles as well so
tablets are going to be out selling
yeah that's i know i know but okay so the other trend is that tablets
are going to outsell pcs for the first time i think in what was it 2016
yes uh no wait what
what what where is it that one that um that b-roll
gave us what one table's gonna be able selling pcs yeah in some article that's what
that's this article oh tablet shipments to outpace laptops in 2013. 2013
right so here's the article from ign wow i'm honestly i am so tired
yeah like i am just beyond tired okay so i'm just gonna let this do the
talking for me so blah blah blah tablet market growing so it's tablets will lead
the entire pc market by 2015. granted the traditional pc isn't going anywhere
yet but it's just another sign of an inevitable mobile dominated future uh
idc continues to believe that pcs will have an important role in this new era
of computing especially among business newers units users
tablet shipments are expected blah blah blah 22 229.3
million units in 2013. so all of this is
looking sort of uh peachy keen for tablets but then vr zone had an article
where they were saying out of uh over a thousand americans surveyed were given
the option to give up for a year their pc
or their mobile phone tv
and was the third one tablet uh mobile phone
tv tablet yeah or or other variations of that so what
one could you go if you had to have only one which one would you have would you
have just your pc or would you have all that other stuff and the majority of
them said if they had to go without for a year they need their pc
more than they need their smartphone and their
uh and their tv and all these other things and that to me was really
interesting because we've talked about this before where the problem isn't the
utility of the pc keyboard and mouse like
beast represent because it's still the best
way to interact with the device and there will be leap motions and there
will be you know uh oculuses and there
will be all of these things there will be more possibly um more entertaining ways yes
and there will be more ways to interact with your pc but when it comes to pure
efficiency i mean that article that says oh well
the pc will continue to be relevant for business users you know what regular
people need to be efficient too we have lives we have other things to do
we don't want to be like xbox turn on then change to channel 46
you know how much faster i can be like power on 46
talking is not fast direct input is kind of
a winner so it's not going away and the reality
of it is it's more to do with
that lengthening upgrade cycle because your pc from three years ago is fast
enough so many jokes hold that thought
so many jokes about my personal rig taking over a year for me to build it'll
be obsolete by the time you finish this no it isn't a 3960x is still with the exception of
the 3970x which is just a slight speed bump it's
this same thing a 3960x is still the fastest
desktop CPU you can buy i started that rig over a year ago
we have a new CPU coming i can tell you right now probably that i won't be
upgrading anytime soon so that's all i said i am not planning to
upgrade my personal rig and for all they know it could be laziness
um so so
okay so that thought you had okay so basically everyone's just running their
family pc that they bought five years ago because your mom and your dad who
don't play video games don't care yeah because it's probably just as fast as it
was to go on facebook and gmail and do
whatever they were probably doing now this is a mass generalization personally
my mom and dad play video games on their machines so they need more peace
machines but most won't so most people are just running
four or five-year-old pcs and have no intention of upgrading my family just downsized from their big house to an
apartment and so it used to be there were lots of pcs in the house so they
had a media pc my little brother had a pc in his room they had a family pc and
the hallway nook all those things so they wanted to consolidate they wanted
one desktop machine in the house they still want a desktop it's not going away
they all got laptops but they still want a desktop because it's just more
comfortable so okay and so it's not
going away but between all those old pcs
they had no complaints about their athlon x3 720 black edition which
happens to be the one that i resurrected when the pin came off and i stuffed the
pin into the socket and put the CPU on it it's still running to this day that
is still my parents daily driver machine um they're perfectly happy with it the
reality of it is there's not that much particularly from AMD that's that much
faster unless you have something that takes advantage of more than three threads
then my little brother asked me to take his gtx 275
and throw that in the machine so that he could play games once in a while but doesn't have to have his own dedicated
desktop computer yeah i can still do it i was playing bf3 on a 260. and he
didn't even care about the fact that he had an 8120 in his machine a faster chip
six core didn't matter to him at all because nothing he does even takes advantage of
that i still want more cores because i'm video editing i'm a heavy multitasker as
you know like i'm one of the few people who actually can benefit from RAM who
doesn't do like you know 3d rendering and it's all
browser tabs his laptop sits at like
85 89 RAM usage you close chrome alone
and it goes to 45. and i run five browsers
there's a method to the madness i know ask me to find a tab but i could barely
use your computer but it i don't care it's my computer i had to prep netlink
weekly i had to make the powerpoint for netflix weekly and like opening a new
tab would like lag out the laptop i'm like okay
i understand you have every tab open you could possibly need but i have to
actually do something else it's impossible
man uh so like anyways um next topic i got
wow i was very confused about that whole that whole topic you know what let's
move into this gaming one i like this topic
uh ceo resigns
square enix blah blah blah
so basically while this loads square enix lost 130 it's 138 million yep yeah
138 million dollars last year this is a wired.com article their ceo has resigned
a lot of their games aren't making the amount of money they needed
or needed to yeah really needed to um they're blaming it on a few different
things one of them is that they're apparently their us marketing is not as strong as they had hoped because games
are selling 50 more in the eu um eu just seems hungrier these days in
general though there's lots of stuff that sells better in the eu that i kind
of look at and i go well you know what people in the eu have smaller houses
so they don't need as many couches to fill their rooms with um i mean i think
i think when it comes to things like consumer electronics the eu is more
progressive and more willing to spend now that everything's small
this brings back the thing we were talking about before in the 90s if something weighed a lot you're like oh
that's quality yeah like big if something weighs a lot
and it's big yeah and it was big now if something weighs a lot and it's big
you're like wow that's cheap and not very good
not always but often so mentality changing so the actual products seem to
have caught up to the eu sort of ethos a little bit um so yeah they can blame it
on that all they want but i personally call bs on that so carry on
yeah yeah exactly um i don't know it spells a bad thing for
video games because a lot of well depending on how you want to look at it
but a lot of different publishers are on this routine where you spend a whole
bunch of money you dedicate a whole bunch of people a whole bunch of resources you spend four years making a
game yeah yeah like a long time a really
big game and you hope it sells like crazy but right now in the ecosystem
we're currently in especially with consoles you're looking at indie games
selling a lot because they're dirt cheap and hopefully don't take that long to
make and just the core like very small
unit of super aaa titles like skyrim
call of duty stuff like that that's taking up all the rest of the pie so
these games that should come in the medium to high range
are just not making it because it costs way too much to develop the game honestly i
think part of it is to do with the fact that people are just fed up they're not
gonna buy that sequel anymore i mean some of the examples that were given for
games that didn't do as well as they needed them to were tomb raider and sleeping dogs
and i'm just kind of sitting here going well okay um for one thing you gave away
an awful lot of copies with Radeon graphics cards
for both of those i mean if you guys think that you know AMD's paying 60 each
for those games they're not not at all uh they are
paying for them i know this for a fact but they're not paying that much for
them um there's the fact that i mean like you
know how sick are people of tomb raider games not being that great even though
it was good though yeah but it doesn't even matter at a certain point you're
right that's like that's like okay so our local hockey team vancouver canucks
every year well no we've got a really good team this year blah blah blah please come
watch us i'm tired of it i'm not going to watch anymore i don't care it's like
okay yeah there's a great team like call call me and let me know when you win a stanley cup and
so you know when when tomb raider wins game of the year at every possible
publication you know maybe a year after that and it's like 19.99 on steam yeah i'll grab
it that's the mentality that's part of it too on the computer side especially is
steam and origin and you play just going like ah it's been out for two weeks 50
off yep and you're just like i love it because i
can get so many games but on the developer side
yeah when you're spending millions upon millions upon millions of dollars and
your your expected asking price is 60
and the funny thing about game pricing is people complain about the 60 game
games haven't gone up in price for like 10 20 years it's been a really long time
one thing is some games that are coming out on uh ps4 and xbox one have shown up
on amazon at a hundred dollars really for ps4 and xbox one only and every
other platform way cheaper people are speculating that this is just because
they don't they haven't updated the ps1 or
too many numbers ps4 and xbox one pricing yet and they've only updated the
other pricing but who knows if it's a hundred bucks a game for new platforms
would you pay a hundred dollars for a video game it depends which one because
lots of people have paid 100 many times over for wow for example yep in certain
cases i would pay 100 for a video game not for everything though but and this
uh this is in line with sort of one of the points that the article on wired made but if it's only certain cases
we're going to be limiting the number of developers who can afford to make these
massive massive undertakings of a project um
down to a few that are going to be left standing i mean how long do you think square enix is going to stick around if
they're losing 130 million a year the answer is not very long especially in a
business model where it's not like they're going to run around and say oh no yeah this is the next big thing is
what we've been doing for all these years all this time that isn't working it's not like they're going to get a
bunch of investment to come in and revitalize them it's not how it actually
works i i mean i would i would say that part of it is complacency i mean when
you have franchises like final fantasy where you like you know squeeze out a
gigantic turd and a bunch of people buy it i i think that teaches you a terrible
lesson about what you have to do to succeed because it's been shown time and
time again blizzard can survive based on this mentality
yes and no blizzard has the
tenacity to just destroy something if they don't think it's good enough they
just did with titan well yeah but that's all that's a topic we haven't gone on to
yet yeah i was going to say like what is ghost for example
that's another applicable currently applicable um another thing is the like
zerg rush insane current mentality of the internet where it's like oh new
games out everyone play it so fast because you'll get hit by spoilers and
then forget about it because there's something on the other end
so a whole bunch of people are buying it really quickly yeah that's what india's
kind of done is it's increased the number of games something else something else
something else there's always something new so wide dwindle and you can't get
like 30 i guess it wasn't dlc back then but
expansions right you can't get 30 expansion sales on your game that's been
out for a year and a half because no one cares that's another thing that brings in day
one dlc is sometimes now i'm not defending day one dlc yeah you better
not do that mentality of the developer is is anyone gonna care in a while
right so we should probably release it sooner now i don't agree with day one
because you should probably be developing this after you release your
freaking game but you gotta release it fast or else no
one's gonna care right you know i i mean i noticed this
um i mean this has been the thing i guess for a while now actually because even
games like supreme commander i played and then it was just kind of gone
so unless it's like unless it's like a huge
triple a title you're not going to get much of a shelf
life on the multiplayer experience because that used to be how you sold a game like remember when everyone looked
at counter-strike as like oh we have to have a multiplayer component in our game
so people will keep playing it and keep buying people still buy counter-strike
so that people will keep playing it and keep buying it for so long but then what
happened is everyone did it and i don't think anyone's ever going to replicate
the longevity of a game like counter-strike ever again and a lot of
multiplayer games have no one on their servers and there's no one on the
servers so it doesn't actually improve anything about the experience and um and
i think we're just going to see that trend even continue and it's going to get worse because you look at aaa
franchises like what is it uh i can't even remember if it's cod or battlefield
or medal of honor it's one of those stupid games it's all the same where
they have a yearly release cycle now yeah and assassin's creed there's
another one yearly release cycle so they have to they're perpetuating this thing
that has them dumping all these resources into making something that
they were used to spending years crafting and then releasing and selling
a bajillion of them to the point where they're trying to mass produce something
and sell a bajillion of them because it's not like it costs less to make assassin's creed if you make it in a
year versus if you make it in three years yes i know a little less i think i think
part of it is going to come into i think releases for games are going to less be
before when a new one came out it was often like new engine
massive new storyline like new new new new everything was new huge platform
change and then call of duty got away with just releasing the same game on the
same engine overnight same engine and when you're when you're just changing
maps well they do have a new dog though
when you're just changing maps and just changing locations and stuff
yeah there's a lot of work that goes into it you're gonna add a few new guns you're gonna add maybe one more core
game mechanic but it's not nearly as much as building a game from the ground up yeah okay that's true so i think that
is gonna be a style that we're gonna see a lot more of so the Linus media group game will have cats in it
cats yeah and axes and helmets and dresses and yeah with tessellation
all the tessellations yeah and realistic cat sound effects
let's see if he starts talking to us hey rumble no
now now
you come visit now he's so unsure right here
there you go
there he goes okay all right so uh do you want should we do like another
twitter five minutes sure uh
should we go up and refresh yeah yeah let's go up and refresh so we're doing
another blast of of twitter here guys
i highly disagree with cod and medal of honor oh can you change it to the
twitter thing scene two
okay okay uh next
why isn't it i i agree they're not
they they're the same as each other no what do you mean no
battlefield 3 is dramatically different from battlefield 2
oh oh oh yes but not each other as in battlefield
is not the same as cod oh okay sure there's a huge difference there sure
but they're very similar yeah there's a vehicle or whatever halo had a vehicle
yeah banshees are awesome you don't play
modern FPS games that much i've played battlefield 3 for like 10
minutes yeah no i played longer than that actually i
did play battlefield 3 probably i have like four or five hours oh okay like i
played it i just don't care i thought it was pretty fun
there are guns you point them at the other guys hardcore mode was neat this guy liked a video so that's pretty
important okay first time catching live stream hi justin hello
your pricing hasn't changed but people's mentality has people see that if you
wait two weeks you get yeah exactly yep exactly
um okay so sometimes you can still grab people with pre-order incentives and
other than that people are just waiting until the 50 off because it's coming
quick because it's coming uh sheldon says you'll pay a hundred and fifty
bucks for the next elder scrolls would you pay a hundred and fifty dollars for that i think i paid more than 150 for
the last one oh yeah okay
so yeah because i got the big one with the dragon and everything right of course
you did and the player's guide and okay next next one next one sorry i know you
love elder scrolls geez uh tornadoes suck that's unfortunate uh should i get
a gtx 780 or another we already answered that question from someone else final
final fantasy hopefully some other games
uh you know what i think that square enix
is best hope at this point because they don't seem to be able to figure out how
to make final fantasy anymore would be to just keep re-releasing old ones we
release old ones with like awesome graphics not just like oh yeah we we
tried to hd the textures a little bit like completely rebuild it make awesome
graphics yeah i bet a rebuilt uh final fantasy vii would sell like hot cakes oh
yeah i'm sure
you want to read it no it's okay moving right along okay
flats apartments people are willing to pay more for something it takes less space yes these aren't really questions
let's let's skip to the questions okay well that's a question
go well okay do you want me to read it yeah hello Linus and also slick i have two
questions first what water cooling should i get for my i5 3570k i'm stumped
that's one question go i don't
i'm is xox works or is that is he trying to freeze that as a question no that's
like kisses and hugs yeah okay h220 go go go go go h220 go pcs are
declining in sales because everyone is building their own with parts no that's actually not it gta 5 i thought it was
already confirmed a really long time ago okay oh pc confirmed yeah i'm pretty
sure it was confirmed a while ago okay not a question
chrome using so much RAM because okay not a question are there any good cherry
green keyboards out at the moment or coming soon go the cm storm trigger is
it's just a trigger i think it's a trigger same storm trigger with greens although it's very hard to get so good
luck yeah not much stock uh i have a 2600k sorry though um thanks
for the good luck i believe they put when are you gonna
finish the home computer build it's actually done i just haven't made a video about it
well you still have to do the yeah so it's like as close to done as you
could possibly be without being done yeah uh i7 930 is beast so yep okay let's go
back up to the top let's see if we got any new questions because none of these are questions
44 new interactions okay speed twitter uh did you like darkest of days never
played it never played it okay i really like the new forum okay nope not a question
not a question favorite energy drink go i don't uh talon i don't drink them okay
next how can i have four titan gpus with a
sound and raid card two and one build you can't don't
yeah just don't don't yeah will dlc be on the
be the only future of video games
will dlc be the only future um downloadable games is possibly the only
future of video games getting hard copies of games will very possibly go
the way of lps where you can still do it but it's a very high premium there won't
be very many of them and it's going to be special order yeah like i wonder if it would almost be like you know someone
would get a license to like you know download it and print it and
like you know make a box for it it would very possibly
so there'll be like niche like web stores yeah um the global legacy are you
going to do videos on the new AMD apos yes sebastian asks nothing to do but my
country a 680 okay good for you uh summer pc completely new build maxing
out actual games budget go
1300 1400 that's always a very good price range to
play around with especially if it's a summer pc where you're just saving up
i'm taking that in the context of you're saving up money over the summer you're
working for the summer going back to school 1300 1400 is a very good budget
for that when can we expect the 716 how much will
it cost do i look like a magician don't no don't know okay
i've would you recommend hybrid physics uh
seven no no i wouldn't recommend running a 640 as a dedicated physx card at all
i'm building an matx computer can you recommend a motherboard
um 1155 go yeah the ASUS one the
that's m-a-t-x sorry m-a-t-x i don't know a board yeah
i don't usually worry about my board too much with matx board builds
i usually just like focus on CPU and GPU and then just kind of z77 chipset
can't go wrong yeah okay i have a Windows home server running on an ASUS
z77 itx deluxe i'm having trouble installing drivers help
simran i i can't help you with that right now download them on a different
machine like a laptop or something you speed them over go to linustechtips.com
post it in the troubleshooting forum yeah there we go and market best answer
if someone gives you a good answer yeah do you know if we're going to be seeing any reference 770s in the near future i
like it better than the other coolers actually i have no idea
because like no one is doing reference 770s with this week no everyone's doing
like winforce or direct cue or whatever it's a sweet cooler
cooler it's freaking awesome i know but it's a lower price point card until
someone comes in and is able to somehow utilize the light bar that's an
incredibly expensive cooler like i can understand but someone couldn't someone
utilize that lighting bar and evga's led technology
led software on an aftermarket cooler that'd be kind of cool that would be
cool that's what i'm waiting for someone to do that somehow what do you think of gtx 770 over 680 do you think
performance is too close to justify the 770
uh personally yes okay i say wrong question because they are not caught
they don't cost the same cost the same they're not even in the same direct tier
it's it's slightly awkward so yeah 770 is not an upgrade for someone with a
680. it's not even positioned that way yeah you're going off to your yeah like
a 680 is replaced by a 780 yeah a 780 is
an upgrade and a good upgrade yes
uh what do you think about the surface pro it's it's cool but not that many people
have the proper use case for it in my opinion uh if you're if you're something
like a programming student i could see it uh
other than that i actually don't know way too many if you need to run a
desktop application but it's not super super heavy
kind of cool but the amount of use cases for that like i just said not very high
hi from ireland guys any suggestion for a good keyboard or mouse for around 100
that would be a good for a first-time pc gamer
um you're in ireland so i don't know your prices
100 euros is basically like yeah but then i don't know how much stuff costs
there because i find oh that's right yeah i don't know Linus tech tips.com
forum go yeah keyboard and mouse section
the word feature proof sucks we don't know things can change a lot but you'll
probably be fine okay um my cat was meowing with you guys
sweet awesome okay let's see if we've got any more topics that we need to
finish up exposed
oh uh you can i'm gonna see if we have
another topic xbox home i wonder how many people just got
disconnected probably none because none of them have xboxes because they're pc gamers
i hope someone is watching on their xbox members of the pc gaming i really hope i
just disconnected someone i'm kind of not that sorry if i just disconnected
you but that would be hilarious i hope someone
is oh let's talk about the uh
where is it oh i can't find anything what are you looking for back to the
drawing board blizzard unannounced mmo go go okay so titan blizzard's been
working on it for a while this article said they had 100 people on it and last
week we talked about how they moved 150 people to their team yeah so it seems
like there's some mixed messages going on with uh with titan but basically uh
the first kind of news about it came out around what was it 2011
i think i think they kind of announced like the name that's about it i don't
think they ever announced the name i believe that was leaked oh so so
basically they've been working on it for a while it was
um you know they they were talking about how we're putting our best developers on
it we're gonna blow everyone's socks off um blizzard has delayed the unannounced
mmo actually the article here is a little bit sensationless in some ways
it's on venturebeat.com it says delays unannounced mmo until 2016. i
i didn't see a quote from anyone from blizzard that said it's going to come
out in 2016. so there isn't one this is a 100 speculation about date yeah they
actually there is and that's their headline like come on guys there's a quote saying that there is not a date
yes so so yeah there's no date but what
has been confirmed is that much of the titan team has been reallocated to other
projects um
the core team is still there yes core teams still there they're gonna work on
redesign they're gonna change it they weren't happy with it yeah they're blowing it up and they're redoing it i
would way way rather than they did this that they
did this then release something that wasn't up to par i like it when people
take the time to release a good i mean it's nice to have the luxury to have
that constant stream of revenue from wow a game that you made like a 000 years
ago yeah a lot of people couldn't do this but it's it's cool that they are
like square enix doesn't even have this option like if tomb raider was you know
80 percent done being built and it wasn't good enough they'd still have to
release it and and that i mean has
i mean the the brutal industry that is game development has killed the brutal
industry that is game development and in the long run run i mean blizzard valve
these are gonna be the only ones left and i'm not even convinced valve's a game dev anymore
when's the last time they made a game yeah it's been a while it's like it
feels like it yeah yeah yeah it's like it's a side project
like hey gabe if you're watching they're amazing i'm still waiting for episode
three honestly though when we were playing with the uh with the oculus and the omni
and like playing half-life 2 a little bit there i was like oh yeah this is a
good game i wish there was another one like this
yeah i know so so yeah uh what's going to be left
valve yeah sports games um holy cow cat your cat um
yeah i don't know probably some crazy mobile developer
yeah so that's sad one thing i want to call it before we go into something else is
we've been having some email issues uh we're getting capped on the amount of
emails we can see with the forum you've got to give context for stories we've been having email issues
i'm tired man we've been having email issues with the forum we're getting capped on the amount we can properly
send so with all the massive amount of giveaways
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okay well i think we're gonna we're gonna probably cut the live stream now
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and um peace out
because i'm leaving on a jet plane i don't know when i'll be
back again actually i'll be back on the ninth and i don't know the rest of that
song