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Livestream VOD – October 25, 2025 @ 24:30 – Amazon (AWS) Broke The Internet - WAN Show October 24, 2025

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2025-10-25 · 41,836 words · ~209 min read

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0:00 ah Live to pre-show Hello, everybody.

6:02 Linus sets off the gay dart.

9:42 Okay All right, let's uh ready when you are yeah, let's go I am resuming the selected now Yeah, that's not going on t...

10:30 What is up everybody and welcome to the wanshow coming to you live from behind the great To firewall we've got a fant...

12:23 Oh do odd pieces desi delta hub Much dbrand rap partner del laptop partner secret live chair partner Wait, he's not h...

43:25 It's still topic to let's talk about this one because it's just it's interesting

49:17 What are you smoking pieces trust me bro guy I mean Even if we were to go back t

55:00 Okay, we're we have 10 minutes to do another topic.

60:06 There's that whole thing about how like civilization basically progresses by its ability to harness more and more pow...

62:06 I'm sorry I can't I can't help myself Okay, um Oh my god you guys No, okay, anyw

65:43 In the meantime brice 21 13 says my brother works for one of leading providers of data center and hospital generators...

67:21 What no what what you wanted something in chat here Dan?

68:05 That's pretty sick I I'm sure it's right, but it looks so wrong.

69:24 So marine turbine turbine turbine, she's dude.

80:09 Okay, let's talk about travel You are researching flights On your screen whether that screen is attached to your eye ...

90:56 All right, uh Should we do the cw announcement?

100:29 What is he's just we've we've seen it like so many times He didn't need to go I want to show people my travel loadout.

103:18 Oh, oh, oh, okay.

104:08 I will ask no questions.

105:06 Okay, I'm sorry, uh, Dan you were saying uh, you're doing any long-term goals Uh, oh, right.

124:20 Speaking of monetizing my death Um Oh go ahead you go first So the thing the reason why I'll just say it, uh, I don't...

145:58 Anyway, all right, we can moving on Uh Open ai unveils its chromium-based chat g

154:11 Now I understand what they're trying to see what they're trying to do it's a typo thing the next time I did it The ne...

176:17 One battle speaking of automation that I had to have with high sense was uh show

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184:42 Okay, protester protester Protester at rally To save our communities badminton courts get support from mark cuban I w...

193:32 Okay, sorry.

196:39 Yeah, dude even my second page only has me on it twice and in both cases I am with you In one case I have my head on ...

207:55 Speaking of liking things Sure.

208:29 Okay, which one is it I can't tell do you like doritos or guns?

220:48 I might have to deal with this because what I'm saying is there might still be lines But they might be pretty far out...

222:38 Iki Yeah Definitely icky definitely legal um There's apparently no romance in the game Okay helps a little bit It's n...

229:18 Speaking of tethered are the new cables going to be cat resistant and when's the messenger bag coming?

236:49 It's either his just like stupid take on the backpack warranty stuff or it's the forum response to steve Ah It's one ...

245:23 I feel like it's like an animated short For some reason I just watched that'll happen.

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0:00 ah Live to pre-show

0:04 Hello, everybody. How's it going? Not how's your Friday?

0:10 I hope you're having a wonderful time. Do you have your water bottle?

0:14 Do you want a drink much energy? Do you want to look like?

0:19 I know I'm thirsty for a good wancho

0:24 Dan I don't think I've ever had this on you

0:30 We have new products. I'm wearing a shirt. I

0:36 Wish I had my I wish I had my bleep buttons so bad right now

0:45 I would say so many things to you

0:49 There's the you there's the sexy music playing right now. Let me just stop that. Oh, I can't hear it. No

0:57 Whoops All right

1:00 Positive wancho if you just say everything in a really positive announcement voice, then it just is positive, right?

1:06 That's exactly how it works like that and and we've tried that before and

1:12 Literally ended up with reddit threads about how could line is possibly support this terrible thing

1:19 I don't even remember that but I fully believe it

1:25 I don't want to restart

1:29 Oh, I missed it because our meeting got into it didn't show up until now

1:35 What is it I have to restart my compooper

1:39 Oh got him Yep Self-owned that's why that's why every time infra gets around to installing all the stuff on my computer

1:48 I just grab a new computer that doesn't have any of our infra stuff on it

1:54 He's figured out the hack You can't do that

1:58 Don't tell people that you know how to do that

2:03 I don't even want to say what I did to my laptop

2:06 Do you know what I did to my laptop Dan? That one weekend that I just like

2:11 freaked out Yeah, I think he ran into bit locker probably. Yeah, and now it's gone

2:20 What did you lock your laptop not not anymore

2:29 Oh boy can't be encrypted if it's empty

2:37 We do have the keys for those Yeah, I didn't know where they were

2:42 That was a whole other fiasco because they were stored in multiple places

2:47 Uh, that's not cool. They should be I don't I'm fairly certain. That's not a thing anymore. I'm just like crashed out about it, but

2:54 maybe Oh, hey, this is probably not for the main show, but I had a super weird experience last night. Oh

3:04 I was standing around waiting for

3:07 There's so many jokes in a convenience store. I had already gotten my freeze-dried mangoes

3:13 and So I was just like waiting in the square

3:17 and this guy comes up to me and he like approaches me kind of sheepishly

3:24 and I'm

3:27 Just he's like hi and I'm like

3:31 Hi, like I assume he wants a selfie or something, right? Sure. Um

3:36 and he's just like

3:39 I just think you're really good-looking. Can I get a picture with you and I'm like

3:44 What? Has that ever happened before?

3:50 No, that is no no that has never happened before but

3:54 I think I think it's a

4:00 I think it's a this country thing and foreigners

4:05 Yeah, I might as well just say I'm in China

4:08 Um, yeah, yeah, but like

4:12 Dude, it was the weirdest thing and then like I thought it was like I thought it was like a hustle or something

4:17 And I was like well my boys are right there. They're like five steps away. I'll just get I'll put my hand on my wallet

4:23 Like sure You know, but no, he just he just like leans in takes a selfie

4:29 and like he's like

4:32 Thanks, and then he just leaves. I'm like

4:36 Was I just propositioned or like what what just happened? What just what the fuck just happened?

4:42 Linus, it's a tribute

4:47 So weird, I'm not gonna explain all that

4:53 Um, oh right. I forgot that I don't have my bleep button. Okay. I'm gonna have to just relax

5:00 Um, anyway, we should do this thing

5:05 It was really weird we got we got a we got a Dan you could make a

5:11 Can you yeah, you could make a remote bleep button. I think

5:15 Oh, dude Bjorn was getting Bjorn was getting macked on so hard though

5:19 Oh, yeah, I just don't understand why it's always dudes with me always

5:28 Maybe we don't need to expand on this I'm gonna say it makes so many jokes and I just I just won't

5:38 It's always dudes

5:44 All right, why don't we uh, why don't we resume the selected?

5:49 Check in

5:53 Ready to go

6:02 Linus sets off the gay dart. No, I I have heard that I uh

6:07 One of the one of the funniest experiences that I had in high school was when I accidentally went on a date with a gay classmate

6:14 I mean I told me that Yeah, I didn't I didn't know it was a date. Um

6:21 Like I knew he was gay, but I just

6:24 You know, I didn't I didn't know that it was like that it was like that and I always remember

6:30 You know afterward me explaining that I'm definitely

6:34 Like not gay uh and that like we're still cool like I don't care, right like being gay is not a crime

6:41 Um And and like honestly I like I had a good time tonight as friends

6:47 Uh, but I'm like definitely not gay and he basically was like

6:51 He gave me like this spiel about how someday you're gonna realize and you know

6:56 I hope you don't get too far into like, you know having a heterosexual marriage and kids before you figure it out

7:02 kind of thing and it's just like bro Damn no

7:08 He just wanted some ARM candy for the night

7:11 Yeah, um

7:15 But yeah, he was he basically told me like my gaydar is like never wrong and I'm like well

7:20 It is today

7:26 Is it really the earrings like is it that simple I just removed the earrings and then I look straight

7:33 See I I can't give you a hint because I feel like my gaydar is not that bad

7:39 And you've never pinged me in the slightest

7:43 I don't know I don't think and I mean genuinely no offense. I don't think just like being small

7:51 Should should do that It doesn't like that doesn't seem fair to me at all like I don't yeah

8:00 I don't I don't get it No

8:06 The earrings don't help but the hips don't lie. Okay, you know what I think we're gonna move off of this conversation now

8:13 Okay, let's get the show started

8:16 Yeah, uh, all right

8:22 Don't lie you've definitely both pinged each other. No like

8:27 No, see one of the one of the things is like

8:31 Making incredibly

8:36 Erotic jokes with your boys is like a thing that definitely straight dudes do

8:47 So like The fact that they're usually like so over the top

8:53 Makes it almost the opposite

8:56 Does that make sense? I think it's one of those. No, I think it's one of those things

9:00 That's a flat circle luke like I think making

9:03 Jokes with your boys is very straight and then making even more explicit jokes with your boys is very gay

9:10 And then going even further is really straight I think going even further than that is really gay until you get to the point where everyone's clothes are off

9:21 Kissing the homies. Good night is not a joke

9:27 Unless you need it to be Ah

9:32 Say psych right now

9:42 Okay

9:45 All right, let's uh ready when you are yeah, let's go

9:50 I am resuming the selected now

9:54 Yeah, that's not going on the main show. All right

10:00 Okay

10:30 What is up everybody and welcome to the wanshow coming to you live from behind the great

10:42 To firewall we've got a fantastic show lined up for you guys today. What do we want to talk about?

10:49 Oh, I don't know. How about the fact that an amazon snafu

10:54 broke the flip in internet Um affecting it in ways that I don't think pretty much anyone could have seen coming like

11:03 Seriously major services, uh banks

11:07 Heated beds. We're not operating correctly and we're gonna we're gonna get into get it get get into the impact

11:14 We're also going to be talking about Oh, I don't know. How about the cs2?

11:21 Skins market losing a casual two

11:25 billion dollars in value because of a change that valve made

11:30 But here's the thing guys valve can't rug pull if they never told you guys to buy this stuff

11:36 We'll get into that. What else we got this week. They're using jet engines to supplement power for growing ai data centers

11:43 That's cool and not a problem. Also

11:47 Actually kind of cool youtube's likeness detection tech has officially launched

11:52 What does that mean? It means good things as far as I can tell we'll talk about that later

11:59 Oh, I can't do it. I can I can't do the button. I can I can't do the button. I did it

12:08 Are you gonna do the things I can do the things

12:16 Oh

12:23 Oh do odd pieces desi delta hub

12:27 Much dbrand rap partner del laptop partner secret live chair partner

12:31 Wait, he's not here What you're gonna you're messing with my stuff. Oh

12:38 You can't no you can't do that. That's illegal yours was actually right side up, which was weird

12:44 I did that before the show someone was messing with me already mine was upside down. So I fixed mine

12:50 All right, why don't we jump right into our big headline topic this week a major outage of amazon web services rendered large parts of the internet

12:59 Unusable earlier this week breaking hundreds of apps websites and games that rely on the service

13:06 Brace yourselves guys because here's a non comprehensive list of not even close to pretty small

13:13 Pretty small web services. You might have heard of that were impacted

13:18 Alexa ring. Okay, that all makes sense. That's those those are amazon services

13:24 Reddit snapchat wordl roblox amazon. Okay, that one many major banks ring robin hood hbo max venmo epic games

13:31 McDonald's fortnight lift hulu disney plus roku signal stream reddit zoom pokemon go playstation network

13:37 AI services such as perplexity and services from 18t Verizon and t-mobile

13:41 along with many others Around the world as much as a third of internet sites and services rely in some way on

13:51 Amazon web services better known as a Ws now luke can we take a moment? Yes

13:57 to just kind of pause from this and talk about

14:01 How bat crap crazy that is not because we are giving

14:07 An american mega corporation So much power and putting them in a position where they can where they are the

14:15 The the the the keystone of the entire freaking online lives lives that we live

14:21 Well combine it with conflagration. It's like even crazier

14:26 But because amazon is really expensive

14:29 yeah How is a third of the internet using aws? It's so expensive as much as it's really expensive

14:36 Nobody got fired for using aws. Also aws is really expensive for

14:42 Mostly specifically the use case that we had

14:45 And it's it's less expensive for that now. It's still really expensive though. If you're doing

14:51 Small transactiony kind of things on it and you're doing it efficiently. It can be it can be kind of all right

14:59 It's also expensive to have engineers on staff managing your own servers

15:03 Um Like like how things are expensive is is questionable. Someone said amazon is a new ibm. It's like

15:11 kind of um a lot of places just

15:15 Do that by default A lot of these services as well like one part of it would work on aws. It wouldn't be like their entire thing is on aws

15:26 Like we actually technically this stream for Floatplane is coming through aws

15:32 Heavens no, yeah So like it but but the vast majority of our service is not literally only that portion

15:39 Because ivs their their whole like twitch thing

15:44 Is is pretty easy to use So

15:48 Yeah, so in a nutshell aws does provide a legitimately good service that can be affordable

15:54 And I mean honestly, I still I still remember when we were first starting up Floatplane and even in the years proceeding that

16:01 What a big deal it was to be aws certified, which basically as far as you know

16:08 From my conversations with you basically meant that people went to

16:13 a amazon was pretty much making it so affordable and so easy to develop services with aws

16:21 um that being aws certified pretty much meant that you know, you could you could

16:28 Color in a coloring book compared to you know, the old way

16:32 and uh, you I remember you not really caring very much about that when people were applying

16:38 um, it was just so much easier to get than than many other things and like it's there's a big gap between someone who can

16:45 Build things in aws and someone who can build things in aws efficiently and that is like incredibly important

16:53 Right and then and then I remember you saying like this is basically

16:58 Amazon's power play to have everybody certified in spending money at amazon. Yeah

17:05 And it's going to kill like the and and and there's there's certainly something to be said for standards

17:11 You know standards are good, but it's going to it's going to kill the just like boutique

17:17 website boutique hosting and and and data service data serving

17:23 businesses and skills it's going to kill those skills and we're going to be left with this world where

17:28 everything just runs on aws because it was so

17:32 Even then it wasn't affordable in all cases, but in many cases it was very affordable and um

17:38 The people getting certified and the people implementing these services weren't the ones spending the money

17:43 So for the things that were expensive or once they ramped up the pricing

17:47 There'd be no incentive for the people who maintain these services to move off of aws

17:52 Especially if it's the only thing that they know and it feels like this outage is pretty much

17:58 the doomsday scenario Or at least a hint of what a doomsday scenario like you imagined might look like is that is that kind of fair to say?

18:07 I mean this is a like literally 10 year old conversation at this point, but yeah, I mean this is this is pretty much exactly it

18:14 I actually thought it was going to be even more

18:18 I think like more recently over the last few years some places have been going back

18:24 to their own managed stuff

18:28 Uh, which I I I don't know if I

18:33 So it's hard to remember back then, but I I I think I would have expected that to not be happening

18:38 Um, I don't think we did talk about that. We both wanted it. We both didn't understand

18:44 why on-prem was not it wasn't just not really used as much

18:50 It was like Looked down upon. Oh, yeah, it was it was shunned. Yeah, like I got crapped on why are you doing it the stupid old way

18:58 Archival storage. Yeah, exactly. Are you a caveman? Yeah, you know, and so I think we both

19:04 Wanted on-prem. I definitely wanted either of us have hope

19:08 No, no, I don't think so at all And I'm happy that it is kind of coming back and I don't think this outage is like why it's coming back to be clear

19:16 Um, no a very I think it's to do with money rare case outage is not. Yeah, it's not what people are running away from

19:23 Um, I think it's money. I think it's control

19:27 Exactly privacy stuff like that

19:31 It's Yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, this outage was was crazy

19:40 Yeah, it's one one interesting loop is if I remember correctly

19:44 when Pokemon go first week because that was one of the things mentioned in this list when pokemon go first went live their server struggled

19:52 and aws like Tweeted or something

19:56 And was like, hey, we can like help you with that Um, yep, so I guess they figured something out there because I didn't actually know they started working with them

20:05 NCI X's weekly specials Uh during major events like boxing day, which uh for those of you not in canada or the uk or australia

20:15 Is was kind of canada's black friday until black friday kind of made its way into

20:21 the international space um

20:25 like every Boxing day our site would just be completely unusable like sometimes for for a very long period of time

20:34 And oh, yeah I wasn't I wasn't saying it for you. I know you know, I just I found some packed like, you know

20:41 We've been my house has been we've been moving stuff around constantly to get out of the way of certain types of work and whatnot

20:46 And I found a few boxes that had NCX, uh barcode labels on them and I was like hell. Yeah

20:52 We're we're back. Anyway, so

20:56 we We like one year like magically solved it and when I found out that our solution was to use aws

21:04 I was like losing my mind because I was sitting here going like if this

21:10 is not A sign of the end times. I don't know what is we are literally

21:19 Hiring like paying large amounts of money because this is during, you know peak hours and and uh, we were using

21:27 More than just, you know hosting I think we were using like DDoS protection services from them and stuff like that

21:32 Like basically it was a whole aws package that we were buying to

21:36 to in a desperate attempt to keep our website up and I was like

21:41 we are cooked because

21:45 Like yes, obviously part of being a retailer

21:48 Is having the right the right stock, right? Having the right pricing having the relationship with the customer, you know, the email

21:56 Newsletter list, you know all those things that that make you a retailer

22:00 But part of being an online retailer is having a modern

22:05 tech Deployment that allows you to to be competitive in the modern space and you know at this time, you know

22:13 Not only am I sitting reading about, you know, amazon's super advanced

22:18 Mega warehouses and and prime and whatever, right? Remember, this is relatively early days

22:22 They were just kind of moving into canada, but now i'm sitting here going our infrastructure our web infrastructure, which is

22:29 Our whole thing nobody can access us without it

22:34 Is so bad it's so outdated so broken that we're literally hiring

22:39 The competitor that is going to move in and eat our lunch

22:43 To desperately keep our website alive for just a little bit longer. I just it was

22:49 It was such a moment for me

22:52 Is it's like like what could I do? What could I what could I compare that to?

22:57 It would be like freaking You know sam's club

23:02 um Having to having to lease

23:06 Floor spacing costco in order to sell bulk pianos or whatever, you know, but trying to i'm trying to you get what i mean though

23:14 No, for sure. It's i mean, it's the it's one of the weirdest things with kick for me, right?

23:19 Is it's like it would be like lo is buying their inventory from home depot

23:26 Effectively their entire site from amazon

23:30 Yeah, it's it's so it's so interesting to me because they're the same business model basically like it's not exactly, but it's so similar

23:38 um Yeah, and then and then you know that twitch is basically not making money. So it's like what's happening

23:46 I can guarantee you ivs is making money which is which is amazon's like

23:52 Livestreaming thing and then i believe they're also getting other services from amazon as well

23:56 So like you know, they're definitely making money off of like i have i have speculated

24:01 I don't i used to have a bunch of friends at twitch and they all retired now because they made that amazon stock money

24:05 But um if i had someone to talk to i would i would ask them this but at a certain point the whole twitch doesn't make money

24:12 I almost wonder if it like doesn't really matter because that's what they're using to keep the tech stack

24:19 nice and fresh to sell to other people anyways, so like

24:24 Whatever it's their own internal test vehicle. Yeah

24:27 And every once in a while there's a random scandal over a hot tub nip slip or uh, sure, you know

24:35 a little bit of you know Messaging people in discord that probably shouldn't have been done and we can just other kind of blinders on ignore this thing and

24:48 Yeah, test our technology and if it ultimately doesn't work out then I guess whatever

24:52 I yeah, because like I don't think it's a terrible hypothesis

24:56 They still need a thing to hold up and go like look

25:00 We can do a lot of this and really well And them having that yeah in their own control is like the best advertisement they could have

25:08 And then when people talk about twitch they still talk about twitch as its

25:13 Own island it's very rare for like the news cycle to be like amazon's twitch

25:19 Oh, yeah has this so-and-so scandal they just say twitch So they're they're still pretty insulated from the scandals and it's an incredible advertisement for a very expensive service

25:28 Like here hear me out on this would

25:32 william osman Have done sauce plus with us if we didn't have Floatplane

25:38 Yeah, no, and I think yeah, you got the answer is obvious

25:42 I don't think so, but yeah I owed I don't think so. I would have been really weird

25:48 I wouldn't have believed that we had the credibility to do it if we didn't have our own test vehicle. Yeah

25:57 Yeah, it makes makes sense We got about 20 of the way through the notes on this topic. So I'm gonna keep going

26:07 Amazon's subsequent investigation into the out

26:11 Outage determined that it impacted customer applications over three distinct periods

26:17 So starting just before midnight

26:20 Pacific time sunday amazon web services began experiencing

26:25 Increased dynamo db API error rates in the u.s. East one region

26:30 Dynamo db is a serverless fully managed no sequel database that powers many high traffic amazon properties

26:36 Including alexa amazon.com and all amazon fulfillment centers

26:41 It also serves aws customers and when it's functional routinely handles more than one

26:46 Million requests per hour

26:50 Yeah, the root cause was found to be a latent defect in the services automatic dns management

26:56 I was about to say exactly what jordan wrote in the notes

27:00 It's always dns like I can I can practically picture

27:05 Seinfeld being like like Newman dns, you know

27:09 my arch rival dns issues

27:14 Sometimes it can even be intentional dns issues. Um, I okay, we're going on another sidetrack here

27:20 Going on the side quest. So I have this issue when I fly

27:26 Where I don't I like to use multiple devices on the internet

27:30 You know sometimes I have my laptop up and I want to play a game with my controller and my bigger screen

27:36 And I just I need to be able to validate that steams online because I forgot to launch it before I took off

27:41 Whatever the that doesn't matter the point is I might also want to have my phone texting on whatsapp with my wife

27:47 Um at the same time But what I don't like to do

27:51 Is pay for two separate internet connections on the same flight

27:55 It's like bro, you already got my 18 dollars or whatever for like four hours of internet that is

28:04 That is not something i'm going to do two times

28:07 Doesn't matter how much I could afford it. It doesn't matter

28:11 If I was literally a billionaire, I would not pay for internet twice on one flight. I simply won't

28:17 It's it's the principle of the thing so Windows actually has uh, and I don't know when they when they added this or at least when it got so convenient

28:27 But Windows has a feature to use your laptop as a mobile hotspot

28:32 And what's really cool about it is my understanding is there is a way to do this on Android as well

28:37 Because I've talked about this before and someone pointed out you can do it on Android as well

28:41 But I certainly haven't found a very convenient way to do it. Um

28:46 Um Where you can share a wi-fi connection over wi-fi

28:52 So on Windows you can have Your wi-fi internet connection shared over wi-fi like internet connection sharing has been a thing like five ever

29:02 If you had a wired connection, you could share it over wi-fi

29:05 Or if you had a wireless connection, you could share it over I think you could do like bluetooth and even like infrared back in the day. There's there's there's all kinds of stuff

29:12 But anyway, the point is I've been using this for years

29:16 So I would like plug my laptop when I didn't even want to use my laptop at all

29:20 Because I would buy internet for my laptop I would like turn off sleep when closing the lid

29:25 Plug it into the power outlet by my seat and just like put it on the floor

29:29 And then keep using the internet off of my laptop hotspot then pull it up when I want to use my laptop

29:34 So I could use it to have a whole hotspot for me and my homies on the plane. It's been great

29:41 But but over the last

29:44 I don't know and and it depends on the airline some of them caught on to it pretty quick

29:49 And some of them seem to have caught on to it a little slower over the last couple of years. Maybe they have started to

29:56 Wise up and They they they've been doing something

30:02 Something to make it so that the and I'm going to get the terminology wrong here because I only had to look this up

30:08 Because I was trying to solve this problem on a on a stupid flight

30:11 But basically, you know the little internet status indicator in the in the system tray on Windows

30:18 Okay, yeah Like the little the little, you know globe or the little the little like wi-fi thing. Okay

30:29 There they were doing something to make that status indicator

30:33 Not detect that you have an internet connection And

30:38 When they do that a whole bunch of stuff doesn't work

30:43 So whatsapp The like the the Windows whatsapp client doesn't work

30:49 Windows update obviously doesn't work. I can totally understand why they wouldn't want anybody, you know performing Windows updates on a plane

30:55 And and maybe that was a big part of their motivation for implementing this

30:59 But any service that requires

31:02 That requires your computer to know that it is online doesn't work a web browser works

31:08 You can be online all you want

31:12 But if the computer doesn't know it, there's certain services that won't work and mobile hotspot is one of them. So

31:19 I spent probably And this is this is really dumb

31:24 But one of the a previous flight that I was on I spent probably an hour

31:29 Of my like three hour flight pass just trying to overcome this obstacle because it just had become kind of an interesting challenge

31:36 Sure, and I didn't manage to do it because my google foo simply wasn't strong enough, but on this last flight

31:43 I managed to do it with a little bit of help from some old friends, uh, david pankratz who hasn't appeared on camera too much

31:51 He was in the um the forte

31:54 Uh vr headset video recently, but uh, yeah, he's super cool guy very technical

32:03 Oh, yeah, right, obviously he was uh, he was on my team in scrapyard wars. Anyway, david super cool and uh,

32:09 He pinged me. He sent me in the right direction. He's like, can you get here by any chance?

32:15 www.msftnci.com slash ncsi.txt so

32:21 I had already found this weird github that I had linked in my reddit post asking people to kind of help me with this

32:28 That claimed to bypass this issue by setting up like a like a local a local server essentially that runs on your own machine

32:39 And Tricks Windows into pinging that to check for connectivity. So it'll just always think it's connected because you get you're always you can always be connected to yourself

32:48 Uh, but but david sort of linked me up with the with the terminology and

32:54 As soon as I tried to go to that url it redirected to the airlines captive portal sign in page and I was like, ah

33:03 dns so basically they're doing some funky stuff with

33:08 dns that makes it so that you can't access

33:12 the the nc ncsi network connection, you know, whatever whatever the whatever the service is called and long story short

33:22 I finally managed to fix it and if you guys ever run into this what you have to do is you have to switch over to

33:30 a passive mode so

33:34 Normally the default for Windows is to actively ping that specific url and I don't

33:41 I'm sure there's a really good technical reason why you would want to ping a specific

33:48 url in order to determine if your internet is on versus just more broadly

33:54 sort of Recognizing that the internet is on by just, you know, seeing if there's internet traffic coming in like I remember back in the day

34:04 Like you probably remember this too, luke You'd run into situations all the time where the indicator looks great

34:11 Right, it's like you're connected to the internet, but you just totally wouldn't have an internet connection. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

34:17 but I but I was reminded but I but I was reminded of this topic because

34:23 I was thinking like dude, what would happen

34:27 If that service went down

34:30 If microsoft ncsi went down

34:33 like And everyone's computers just were connected to the internet, but didn't know they were connected to the internet, dude

34:44 That would be that would be wild. Okay, so hold on. I found my post on reddit where I explained the fix

34:51 So, yeah, you need to disable active probing which

34:56 And it's always a registry hack is just a single registry value

35:01 That you switch off for active probing and it switches on passive probing

35:06 Which does exactly what I would have Intuited is the better way to do this where it just kind of monitors for internet traffic

35:15 Once in a while and if it detects it it goes. Yep, you're connected to the internet

35:19 And then turns on the little icon that says you're connected to the internet and allows you to use whatever services you want

35:25 So that was a really It's very early and i'm in another time zone and my brain's not really functioning correctly meandering way of telling the story of

35:35 I can now use my mobile hotspot on the plane and also

35:38 If that service from microsoft ever goes down

35:42 i'm good Yeah

35:46 Yeah You can hit it with a cool story, bro. I think I deserve it. It's a little bit of a cool story, bro

35:52 Uh, that is interesting though. Like it is it is This is like one of the twigs at the bottom of the pile of things that's keeping the internet

36:03 Alive right now and we saw one of the twigs break for a small period of time

36:08 And the impact of that there are other ones. I mentioned cloud flare earlier. This sounds like kind of

36:15 In a different vein, but one of them, um, but it's it's it's just it's interesting how

36:21 Fragile this thing that like an enormous percentage of a lot of people's lives

36:27 Realize on it's it's pretty wild

36:33 Yeah, um people have some comments on the whole

36:40 Uh probing thing penda says they're doing something similar with cruise lines too

36:45 Yep That totally makes sense. Uh addo says some apps don't use the Windows API and do their own check

36:52 But many do use the microsoft method. Yep. So a lot of things work a lot of things

36:58 Flipping don't uh, oh man steam had a bug for a little while

37:02 Um, I think they fixed it maybe about a month ago for me

37:05 But it was driving me absolutely crazy where steam wouldn't know that it was connected to the internet unless I was in desktop mode

37:12 Like it wouldn't know in big picture. So I went a span of like at least a month without

37:19 Not being in big picture on my on my ally And so I didn't get an update to a new version of the tape to tape like pre beta

37:28 Like the the the feedback build that I was on and so I kept giving them feedback that was like based on an old build

37:35 and I had no idea because my steam just like wasn't connected to the internet for over a month and

37:42 What the heck? I didn't know there were any updates to the game and then the second I flipped out into desktop mode

37:47 It updated now. I was like, oh crap this it's an

37:52 Sorry guys, this is embarrassing, but I've been running an ancient build while I've been like sending all of these

37:57 These feedback that would have turned me nuts dude

38:00 Dude, I know I know I I felt so bad. I felt so bad, but I just I didn't know

38:07 I had no idea. I can't reproduce this problem

38:12 And then I looked it up and it was a thing like people

38:16 People just they're like, oh, yeah the fix is just to switch to desktop mode. I'm like that that is

38:21 That is so dumb. Why would being in big picture mode make it so that steam doesn't know that it's connected to the internet?

38:27 That is weird wild. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah

38:30 If anyone has any insight into why that would have been that

38:34 wow Would love to would love to hear about it

38:39 I I just immediately jumped to like was that the easiest way for them to just make it so that you don't download the background

38:49 It shouldn't be they have other ways to handle that

38:54 That you mean? Yeah

38:58 Ah There's no way. Oh off brand law says I work with an engineer who worked on big picture. I'll get back to you next week

39:04 Cool. Okay. Yeah, like I would I would love I'd love to know why I'd love to know why

39:12 But I like seriously I looked it up. This was not just me. This was a thing

39:19 Sorry, I shall continue and we shall actually get through this topic at some point

39:24 The dynamo db issue also impacted ec2 amazon's on-demand computing service

39:29 Resulting in increased API averse increased latency and failure to launch new instances in the us east one region

39:37 um The problems with ec2 impacted the network load balancer and all services that use network load balancer

39:43 Due to failing node health checks all these issues, of course caused problems for other dependent amazon services with operations only returning to fully normal by about 4 a.m

39:53 Tuesday Tuesday

39:56 If you enjoy massive walls of tiny text, you can check out amazon's post event summary again

40:01 If you want to throw that in the chat, that'd be that'd be kind of cool

40:05 CNN business reported that the financial impact of this outage could be in the hundreds of billions

40:10 Okay, that yeah I don't know about that that seems like it might just be one of those like and ai could

40:19 Gain sentience and take over the world like yeah, maybe but also like we're never going to be able to measure this

40:25 You know it could have been more than a hundred million dollars

40:31 Yeah, it could have been it could have been

40:35 Some of the less serious impacts owners of eight sleep smart beds were unable to change position or temperature of their beds

40:44 Which is Ridiculous and something that luke and i have talked about on the WAN Show before

40:49 There is no reason whatsoever that two devices on the same wi-fi should have to

40:58 Relay through a cloud server To talk to each other when they are both just devices you flipping own the only possible reason is an excess of control

41:09 From the company that you bought it from

41:13 Don't forget about an excess of data collection luke you've forgotten the other possible reason. Yeah

41:18 True maybe both. I think in this case it's both

41:21 Anyway in response eight sleep has added an outage mode to their beds, which

41:28 Should just be the default operating mode But whatever I guess this is progress

41:34 Some slack users found themselves unable to leave audio conversations

41:39 that's Potentially really awkward but also pretty funny

41:44 I had that problem. It was actually totally fine because everyone else was able to leave

41:48 um but yeah

41:51 So you just uh does slack does slack give you that forever alone message like discord does

41:56 Hey, it appears you're in this voice chat by yourself. Um, that's pretty sad. Also. We're gonna turn off our

42:03 Our servers now. We're gonna disconnect. No, but it plays it plays like lobby music

42:08 Um, and it's like actually pretty great lobby music

42:12 So it was it was pretty chill to be honest

42:17 Cool cool, um premiere league soccer officials were forced to manually confirm offside calls when their aws based

42:24 semi-automated offside technology was unavailable. Oh, that's funny

42:28 Starbucks users were forced to talk to a human to order their drinks. That's probably the worst outage out of all of them

42:36 And uh wordle and duolingo lost their minds about broken streaks

42:40 It looks like the streaks were maintained by the respective devs though

42:43 Um, or it looks yeah, uh, so yeah

42:48 Cool. Oh the discussion question is the the first thing I said basically

42:53 Yeah, so we can move on sure Yes, we are dependent on a small handful of services and yes

42:59 It's a terrible terrible terrible thing and and to to to give the discussion questions some some credit the

43:07 The aws plus cloudflare combo is a particularly devastating

43:14 You know to support beams to just chop right at the knees if you wanted to hurt the internet

43:21 All right, you want to pick a next topic for us. I can't see there's messages, so I don't know

43:25 It's still topic to let's talk about this one because it's just it's interesting to me

43:30 The counter strike to market cap for skins dropped by almost two

43:35 Billion dollars

43:39 Oh my god Counter strike push an update this week that affected the way certain items can now be combined

43:46 To create rarer ones often much harder to achieve through the game's loot box mechanics

43:51 If I remember correctly this combining of things to get a new one was a mechanic back in tf2

43:58 At a certain point. I could be wrong. You're forgetting the full history here. Okay. You're forgetting the full history here

44:04 Okay. Okay. This combining mechanic

44:07 Okay was first implemented by carneys

44:12 At carnivals You walk up you see the shiny big bear

44:18 You play the game You get a tiny plastic trinket. You're totally right. You trade up plastic

44:26 To be clear I actually do think that overall in the long run

44:31 This is probably a healthier thing for making cs2 gambling

44:37 On skins less of a thing maybe hopefully oh, yeah, hopefully

44:42 But it's still It still has its roots in grift games. Okay. Okay. I've got a theory. I've got a theory here

44:52 This hurts the market, but the market is

44:58 A lot of it is gray market, right?

45:01 People are trading off platform trading cash off platform and then trading the items in game

45:06 That's a lot of the movement this in my opinion

45:09 Will not reduce The amount of activity that valve sees

45:16 Oh, if anything I suspect I exactly I suspect this will increase valves

45:22 Like touch points because you might be more incentivized by a loot box if you're like I can just trade up

45:29 I'm not I'm not I'm losing any value because I can just trade up and get something better later

45:34 but the The unobtainium of things might have actually scared people off a little bit very interesting very interesting also more

45:43 Lower value items. I think Increases the chance that people are going to trade through the valve marketplace

45:50 Instead of these off platform marketplaces. So yeah, if anything, I think this is valves just being like we're going to

45:56 Change the playing field a little bit and make a lot more money

45:59 One knife was sold for about $14,000 just before this update

46:04 And it is now valued at about half of that the person who sold that is

46:08 stoked while some of the more common items known as

46:12 reds Which are used to create these rare items saw an increase in as much as 10 times of the market value that makes sense

46:23 This brought the estimated six billion dollar market

46:29 what Down to just under

46:32 4.3 billion So oh nameless and Floatplane chat says china

46:38 Uses it as kind of a pseudo pseudo

46:42 financial market investment vehicle because of government limitations on

46:48 What they can invest in And they're all running away at the moment because valve disrupted it and that's why it's crashing way harder than it should

46:58 Ah, which I thought is an interesting perspective. I don't know much about cs2 skins in china

47:05 But it kind of makes sense

47:10 Yeah Some people got lucky one reddit user apparently had their worthless inventory skyrocket to about 4.4 million

47:24 us dollars

47:27 Yeah, and the real winners are valve

47:30 Since they get a five percent steam transactions fee and a 10 percent counter strike two fee

47:35 Which basically means valve gets a 15 percent cut on any panic buying

47:41 and selling

47:45 Except from it's done off platform, but yeah, still crazy

47:48 Do you think this counts as market manipulation? Uh, no

47:53 Seeing as how at any moment valve or or other game companies can profit off from these changes

47:58 Yeah, which is why you probably shouldn't use it as a store value

48:02 Yeah, these I mean, that's the whole that's the whole thing. That's it's not market manipulation

48:09 If it's not a market, it's not supposed to be a market people like if

48:15 Like this is like saying this is like calling the lego company a market manipulator if they decide to

48:22 reprint a bunch of minifigures like

48:26 That's totally within their rights to do you can't

48:30 That that's the reason why actual financial markets are regulated or supposed to be

48:37 regulated Properly because it it prevents this kind of thing, but like

48:44 Yeah, lol inverse says ah, yes magic the gathering exactly like you can't rely on a corporation whose interests are

48:54 Completely opposed to your own to behave as some sort of like

49:00 weird benevolent Protector of the of the of your little sort of pseudo financial market like that's not that's not how they work

49:17 What are you smoking pieces trust me bro guy

49:21 I mean Even if we were to go back to the backpack warranty thing it was a completely separate argument

49:28 My my argument was That it would be devastating for my brand if I didn't

49:35 Take care of things which which it is in my best interest

49:38 To take care of things we our interests are aligned while true wasn't wasn't a great argument, but

49:45 No, but it's a very true one. Look what happened. Sure. Sure

49:48 The negative the negative result of me pointing out

49:52 like Literally proved my point luke. That's really funny. Uh euro blue said

49:59 Euro blue tagged me and said, what are you smoking if the market shrinks in value?

50:02 Uh valve also makes less money. They made it to make knives more accessible

50:08 If if transactions ramp like crazy because people think knives are more accessible

50:14 Valve will make a bunch of money a lot of these extremely high value transactions were happening off platform

50:20 Meaning valve was not getting a cut from it They want more smaller stuff to happen because there's a higher chance that happens on platform

50:29 And then they do get a cut from it. Um, also everything i'm saying is speculation

50:35 But I think that's what's going on. I I have a pretty strong assumption. That's what's going on

50:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah hobbs is saying that uh valve gets 100 on keep purchases to open crates

50:47 And if you're more willing to open a crate now because you can see

50:51 Value in it because you can just roll upwards Um, then they're they're getting money from the key and as you if you trade skins on platform

51:00 They're getting money from that as well. They want to sell keys and they want

51:04 Transactions between players to stay on platform as much as possible because then they're pulling 15%

51:10 They win when you try to throw your ball and jennifer loves you its mouth they win again

51:15 If you Do happen to you know win a few little, you know crappy plastic keychains

51:21 They win again if you trade those crappy plastic keychains up for terence and philip dolls

51:26 They win again if you sell your terence and philip doll like it's

51:31 It's shenanigans, man. It's pure shenanigans. Yeah

51:37 Couple people got the reference Maybe but I never had it nice

51:43 And now I have one and I'm happy. Thanks valve. Cool, dude

51:48 That's totally fine

51:52 All right Can I just suggest can I just suggest that if you really want a knife?

51:59 Okay, if you want a knife that badly

52:02 Okay, you can just head over to kickstarter. Okay. I'm gonna post this link in the chat for you

52:07 Okay, you can head over to kickstarter where the hacksmith is selling his incredible 21 and 1 titanium multi tool

52:16 Okay um You can you can get it for hold on. Okay. What's what's the lowest pledge that is actually still available?

52:26 Uh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Well, no, I don't think they're I don't think they're I don't think they're shipping yet

52:32 The point is I don't think you can do any of these Oh

52:37 Man, is he Is it because I'm not signed in or is it over?

52:43 Whatever the point is find some way to give a real person

52:47 Real actual money for a real actual knife. Okay there

52:52 That's it. I thought you were gonna troll me with the

52:56 With the uh the hammer Then start saving up because it's an expensive knife

53:02 You can save up and then when it's available you can buy it. Don't buy it. Don't buy a digital knife

53:07 Because this is what happens someday

53:10 cs2 might not exist Someday, you know gay men

53:16 Or the stewards of valve that he apparently has like kind of worked out so that valve will still be chill as he passes or

53:23 Whatever apparently apparently um, but someday

53:27 This might not be the way that it is right now

53:30 And this is not This is not a good

53:34 Sustainable forever thing. Okay

53:38 Cool Good chat

53:42 Not financial advice Yeah, some people have made incredible amounts of money like a wild amount of money on on cs skins

53:50 I find I find anytime it's like tangential stuff like this. Um, I know people that have made

53:56 Uh multiple generational fortunes on coins. I know

54:02 Uh, not directly, but I know of people

54:05 who have made Similar amounts of money on cs skins. Uh, I I saw somebody post like if you invested

54:14 I don't know like a thousand dollars in cs skins when they first started being a thing compared to now

54:19 You would have like absolutely destroyed the stock market. Um, which is hilarious

54:24 Uh, like I don't know, but if you're gonna do those things you need to know what you're doing

54:28 You need to be paying a lot of attention. You need to live it and breathe it

54:33 You might still get ripped Yep, it's actually more likely that you'll still get ripped, but some people will make it. I don't know

54:41 It is what it is. The world is crazy I ain't judging but it's be ready. It's gambling. It's gambling. Yeah

54:48 It do be gambling

54:54 all right Luke you're sort of in charge because I don't have the schedule

55:00 Okay, we're we have 10 minutes to do another topic. We can do

55:04 A short one want to do this jet engines used to supplement power for growing ai data centers

55:11 Uh, while some us data center operators have been having troubles getting increased grid power allotted

55:17 They've turned to Aero derivative gas turbines effectively retired commercial aircraft engines

55:24 Bolted into trailers for supplemental power

55:28 There are facilities pause. Can we pause for a second?

55:32 Aero turbine What a day I saw this satellite that is that is the most ridiculous euphemism

55:40 That I think I have ever heard aero derivative

55:45 gas turbines They're not aero derivative. You insincere

55:51 pieces They are literally they are

55:56 Literally Based on the g e cf 6 80c 2 and lm 6000

56:02 Literally the turbines used on bowing 767s and airbus 310s. These are

56:10 They're they're jet engines From actual jets

56:15 They're What are we

56:18 What our what timeline are we on now? I have completely lost all ability to follow what is going on in the world

56:26 How does this make any sense?

56:30 Okay, luke My favorite part is that this might mean

56:36 That when when probably a ton of people in the audience asked their version of chat gpt if there was a seahorse emoji

56:45 That was powered by jet engines

56:50 It literally went burr luke. Yeah

56:53 Yeah, exactly It's just at a certain point you just have to laugh man

56:58 Like some of the some of this stuff like you're looking at meta and and uh open ai and all these companies releasing these like slop scrolling apps

57:06 And those are powered by jet engines like

57:10 whoa What are we doing?

57:15 What's wrong with us, man It's like everyone's mad at my girl taylor swift for flying around in her private plane

57:22 But everybody's basically flying jets all the time

57:26 At least she's bringing music to the people

57:29 Oh my goodness. Yeah, you're your chat gpt thing just just output

57:34 wrong seahorse emojis at least she's like

57:38 Uh doing a task and then flying home and then doing a task and then flying home. But anyways, um

57:43 The those turbine cores that that lioness mentioned can deliver up to 48 megawatts of power

57:51 a piece Okay, we need to make pk7's comment and Floatplane chat a thing

57:57 I I need The official new mascot. I'm sorry luke your budgies are out

58:04 The WAN Show has a new bird mascot the ability to can

58:08 Hey, we're gonna make a bird. We're gonna make a bird and and sometimes so so the bird's gonna be like our it's gonna be our canary

58:18 Okay, and whenever something just too ridiculous happens our bird goes away

58:23 And I've lost my ability to can I just can't anymore

58:28 I like it. I'm serious right now. I want I want this to be a thing. I want the ability to can I think it's pretty

58:33 So we need a emoji for that then Because then people can spam it in jet

58:38 All right, we're we're gonna need it. We're gonna need it. Yeah

58:42 Um, I was okay. Were you surprised at how much power a jet turbine generates like I

58:52 Yeah, but I thought I thought by just strapping it to a trailer

58:56 Um that there would be a just a wild amount of waste and I'm sure there still is but 48 megawatts is a lot

59:03 Uh, yeah Yeah

59:07 Yeah They really gotta bolt that thing down. I'm gonna go back to this when you see the supports

59:15 Okay, hold on. I haven't I haven't actually looked at the pictures yet. I need to see the pictures

59:20 It's pretty nice. I hit me with this hit me with this

59:24 Oh my god I don't know if he's reacting to that or oh, okay. Yeah, Luke a real actual engineer was given the task

59:35 Okay to build a rig

59:40 That prevents a jet engine from doing the one literal thing that it's supposed to do move

59:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah all also that I can generate you're doing with your life

59:52 Also that I can generate an ai video of s-fan pouring milk into a cargo shorts pocket

60:06 There's that whole thing about how like civilization basically progresses by its ability to harness more and more power

60:12 um Maybe we needed this

60:17 Dyson sphere, baby. Yeah, maybe this is maybe this is one continual step towards a Dyson sphere

60:26 Fantastic, I just man. Do you know how much it costs like to run one of these engines? Let's see lm 6000

60:36 um Like I can I can tell you right now one of those planes would cost potentially, you know 20 grand an hour

60:45 in the air I don't know how much of that is the engines and how much of that is other stuff

60:50 But like easily the fuel costs like a of an lm 6000 is

60:56 2905 us dollars per hour or at least that's what the ai summary overview powered by the jet engine told me

61:03 I thought I thought it would make sense If if I use the jet engine powered output

61:09 To say what the jet engine took in regards to fuel normally I would skip over that section

61:15 The not so bright says imagine the cost of fuel how is this cost effective compared to to diesel engines?

61:23 Yeah, like like what how why are we using jet fuel?

61:26 Is jet fuel not more expensive than actually? I mean diesel's like diesel's gotten expensive like it was in my lifetime that diesel was cheaper because it's like lower

61:34 Great or whatever steel beams to attach it to the trailer and jet fuel can't melt steel beams

61:40 So they so they thought it would be structurally sound. Do I dig a 9-11 joke?

61:48 I'm gonna do it

61:53 A second ding has hit the joke

62:06 I'm sorry I can't I can't help myself

62:10 Okay, um

62:14 Oh my god you guys

62:18 No, okay, anyway, apparently jet a is basically kerosene says someone in chat

62:23 Um, and it doesn't look that expensive according to the ai overview

62:28 The power by judges Is about five dollars and 63 cents a gallon. Oh, what's what's diesel? How much is diesel? I haven't bought diesel in forever

62:38 Okay way cheaper

62:42 But then I have no idea what the energy density of of diesel and and jet ar and I have no idea what the efficiency of it

62:49 I would think a diesel a diesel engine would be the most efficient

62:53 Right, but maybe there's a long lead time on large diesel generators

62:59 I think there is Like like data center scale ones. I think there is

63:05 Yabal rid says jet fuel is not taxed the same and is surprisingly cheap for what it is

63:11 Yeah, see that's the whole thing like I like I was I alluded to earlier in my lifetime

63:17 Diesel has gone from being like kind of a cheap

63:20 byproduct fuel of the gasoline that drives the petroleum the petroleum industry to being

63:27 the more to being having the price driven up by demand from

63:32 Like like cargo ships and industrial vehicles to the point where even though the diesel is like the lower grade like crappier product

63:41 it's It's the it's the more expensive is is race fuel more expensive than jet fuel

63:50 I don't know. I don't even know what race fuel is wait people in chat are telling me that jet a is diesel

63:56 You got to be kidding me. Yeah, race fuel is apparently significantly more expensive than jet fuel

64:01 that's that's Well, race fuel is super pure or something, right? I'm not I'm not a fuel expert guys at all. I just find it kind of interesting that

64:11 Uh, race fuel is lead. Oh, wow

64:16 Yeah, no, it's just super super high octane

64:19 Oh interesting. Casper Explorer says diesel is not crappy

64:24 And Dan likes says it contains more energy than gasoline

64:28 I've thought that about diesel to be honest. I thought it contained more energy than gasoline diesel needs to be compressed

64:34 not ignited And yeah, jet a needs something volatile because it's got the the burnery things that

64:42 ignite it And I would expect a power out of AI overview. Here we go. We're only using AI for the rest of this topic

64:49 Turn the jet engines. We have to power the jet fuel and diesel are both kerosene based distillates, but

64:55 Differ in additives sulfur content and performance characteristics

64:59 Jet fuel has less lubricity and higher sulfur content making it unsuitable for modern diesel engines

65:05 Which require lubricity additives and have low sulfur requirements

65:09 Conversely, diesel fuel is oilier has a higher freezing point than some jet fuels and is not ideal for jet engines

65:18 Okay nice

65:21 Good to we should find ways to

65:24 Work them harder. We should just we should just keep AI searching things the whole show

65:30 Oh my god I love this so much. Oh my god. I'm posting this in chat Dan if you want to switch this over

65:43 In the meantime brice 21 13 says my brother works for one of leading providers of data center and hospital generators

65:50 They're diesel and they take at least a year to get the major players get priority

65:54 And they're shipped to them by the dozens But human labor can only go so fast and there's limited skilled talent these days also keep in mind

66:00 They're usually sold as entire enclosures transit is difficult too since they're massive. Yeah, we saw these

66:05 when we did the the tour at

66:09 Equinix they had their whole diesel generator room and they they they're just

66:16 Huge and yes a jet engine is huge, but these diesel generators are absolutely enormous

66:21 So it makes sense that if you're just desperate for power right now and you're in this this AI development arms race

66:29 That is just a money a money printing and money burning machine at the same time

66:35 um A circular money jerk of sorts then it makes sense that you would just be looking for whatever is the fastest

66:43 Way to get more power and what could be faster than a jet engine? Yeah

66:48 All right Dan, do you want to throw that on screen?

66:56 Building sevens fall rate, um explain cw announced it explained two merge messages

67:05 Oh, what no, I want to see the thing first. I'm just saying that's what's next. You don't have to do it this second

67:10 Oh, I see I see I see I think we were supposed to buy them time though. Aren't we Dan? Have you heard from them?

67:21 What no what what you wanted something in chat here Dan?

67:24 I I yeah, yeah, I posted a link in chat

67:27 Oh, you wanted me to show that Yeah

67:31 The aviation thing Yeah, oh, okay. I just shared it in the other chats my bad

67:36 One moment. Yeah Yeah, throw it throw it out throw it out. It's funny. It's hilarious

67:42 Um, don't even know if I can do it be I can share it. I got it. I don't know. Can you here we go? I'm done

67:48 There it is very funny. This is awesome

67:55 Getting it done you'll love to see it

68:05 That's pretty sick

68:08 I I'm sure it's right, but it looks so wrong. Oh, yeah. Yeah

68:13 Raiden 428 in chat says hey Linus. Maybe go visit marine turbo dot com

68:19 Luke do you want to fire that up? Sure on a special super interesting

68:23 something As a biker you might like their 273 mile per hour helicopter turbine powered bike

68:30 There's a whole industry around timed out aviation engines

68:35 Marine turbo dot com maybe dot us

68:39 No dot com. I don't think is a thing

68:45 Power generation airbo airboats and special

68:49 Projects I'm on the site right now It was linked by raiden 428

69:01 MTT commissions its latest monster airboat configuration

69:07 Do you mean dot code are you k?

69:11 I mean exactly what I'm saying marine turbo dot com

69:16 Raiden 428 has it in the chat

69:24 So marine turbine turbine turbine, she's dude. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry my bad. My bad. Okay. I will share it now

69:33 Nice Sorry guys

69:37 Listen, I am very many time zones off and it is very early in the morning

69:42 Which means that it is the evening and my brain should be functioning correctly

69:46 And yet it's not I was like, bro. This is definitely not a website. I don't know what you're talking about

69:56 I don't even understand. I don't know what we're looking at. I'm looking at what are we looking at so

70:01 Go to uh go to okay Yeah, I

70:05 What? An adrenaline rush like none other on the planet

70:10 turbine motorcycles if you go to um

70:13 Fifi airboats and special projects and click on airboats and workboats

70:18 There's what looks like a giant hovercraft to carry excavators

70:26 What that's sick, I don't know cool

70:30 Imagine this being your business basically red neck and red neck engineering for a living

70:38 If you're gonna embed it like that just link it on youtube or something that sucks that these are gone. Oh, this one's here

70:49 I mean sure

70:53 Yeah, I mean those aren't those aren't jet engines or anything but still

70:57 Big old turbines those aren't jet engines or anything but dude that thing's big old turbines

71:07 All right, well anyway, uh, we can move on didn't expect we'd be pulling that up today

71:18 Okay, uh cws Dan are they ready or should we buy them time?

71:23 Or have they messaged you seems to be updated nice. All right cw announced. Uh, no it doesn't what are you talking about?

71:33 All right, you got rid of the line Uh, oh, but weren't we supposed to buy them time so they could put it back?

71:40 And didn't they remove it just in case Can you check on that? Can you message the guy and we can do a topic real quick? Okay nice, um

71:48 Sam song launched the first Android xr headset

71:53 After nearly a year since google initially revealed their operating system for headsets samsung's samsung's

72:00 Galaxy xr is the first mixed reality headset powered by Android xr for 1800

72:06 U. S dollars half of the apple vision pro that's terrifying

72:10 The galaxy xr sports the new snapdragon xr2 plus gen 2 chip micro OLED display

72:16 Full hand and eye tracking 256 gs of storage and camera enabled a. I

72:23 The goal of galaxy xr's integration with a i is to be more proactive in situations that require awareness of our apps

72:30 And what we're seeing in the real world simultaneously

72:34 Uh, google's samir samat did mention that you can choose which apps are visible to a i

72:41 Which is relatively important unless it decides to look at other ones

72:45 And also for now like Linus said Uh, the ui ux reportedly looks very similar to both the apple vision pro and the meta quest which makes complete sense to be honest

72:53 cnet, uh, there's an image of the

72:57 ui on a demo kate that is very generic and normal and kind of boring and

73:04 Bubbly, okay sounds good Um

73:08 While you can access would you want something super No, not not for that screen not particularly. It just is what it is. Uh while you can access a chrome browser

73:19 Yeah, everything's going to the bubbliness now that I don't know how I feel about like youtube controls are all bubbly now

73:26 Oh, dude, right? I feel like we're doing the equal but opposite move of the Windows 8

73:33 Everything no matter what has to be a square Now it's like everything no matter what has to be a bubble and it's like

73:39 We didn't need either of these. We could have just chilled out in the middle and that would have been totally fine forever

73:45 Thank you very much. Anyways That's not how trendiness works. Unfortunately. You are very correct

73:52 While you can access any app from google play out of the box google reworked apps like maps youtube and more specifically for xr

74:00 For example, but not their own For

74:05 For example google photos you can turn your existing library of 2d photos into 3d. So you can step into your memories

74:13 Uh sounds like a black mirror. There is the comment left and I don't entirely disagree

74:20 Uh, but not quite yet sounds kind of cool though. It does sound pretty neat. I would definitely try that with a couple

74:26 Uh google also ensured support for open xr web xr and unity. So there will be uh

74:32 More new apps and experiences to come in the future samsung coo

74:36 Won ju choy did mention that they aren't aiming to replace smartphones with the release of new xr tech

74:44 But he believes they will complement and provide experiences people wouldn't have gotten with smartphones

74:51 Well, i'm really glad he wasn't intending to replace smartphones because that was never going to happen

74:58 well, okay With this release that was never going to happen

75:03 Um in the very long term. Do you think smart glasses have a shot? Sure. I've been wearing

75:09 Um meta the clear the clear metaglasses. Which one is i super do? I don't think these ones do

75:19 Well, that's not gonna happen Yeah, so yeah, the he's been wearing the oakley. Um transparent ones. Yeah on this trip and

75:29 He commented last night that

75:33 He's like really impressed with them so far and I was like, oh, yeah, how come and he goes

75:38 I've been using them all day. I've been wearing them all day and uh, I got back to the hotel room just now

75:45 They were at like 30 battery. I popped them on the charger and in just like a few minutes

75:50 They were charged back up and now my battery life's great

75:54 And this is like right before we went out for dinner and I was like, okay

75:58 But like other than Being powered

76:02 Yeah What have you done with them and he's like, oh man, like I can use them

76:08 I can ask meta to do currency conversion for me

76:11 And I was like, I've been with you all day. You did that one time and it would have been just as fast

76:17 You literally keep your phone in your chest pocket. Like it would have been just as fast to use your phone. He's like, ah, but

76:25 This is cooler But he's he's a trendy guy though

76:30 He is no, no, I need to be clear to be clear. No, but what I'm saying is if he likes them

76:37 They might take off to be clear He's also taken the piss a little bit, but he also pointed out that he used them to listen to music

76:43 um When we were on the when we were in a shuttle

76:48 And I was like, yes, I noticed that arty's in chat going they're great as discrete headphones lull

76:53 Arty I can I'm sad to be the one who has to inform you that they're not that discreet

76:58 I was able to clearly hear everything that charade was listening to

77:02 Um, so make of that what you will if you're comfortable with people hearing what you're listening to that's totally fine

77:09 It wasn't super obnoxious. It wasn't any worse than like an open back headphone or anything like that, but no very much

77:16 very much listenable So yeah, he used them as headphones and as

77:23 um and as uh

77:27 A currency conversion one time And and to check a currency conversion

77:34 um He also did discreetly take a picture when people didn't realize he was taking a picture

77:41 So he took a picture of us having a group picture taken of us and it was funny because

77:47 One of the brands that we worked with while we were here had

77:51 They asked us if they could do like a behind the scenes

77:55 Of our video shoot for their own their own channels and we were like, oh, yeah, that

78:01 Kind of sounds okay

78:05 Like it's going to be pretty small right they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah They had a crew of I kid you not it was felt like 10 people

78:11 Falling following us around the whole day. So this like picture that they're taking

78:16 Sherrod has a picture of the giant crew that was taking the picture. So it's just it's so it's pretty funny

78:21 That's kind of cool. Actually. Okay, already. I know you love your metaglasses. I'm not saying they're completely useless

78:28 He points out they're amazing for recording roller coaster POVs

78:33 I'm not saying they don't have any use. I'm just saying

78:37 Clearly we are very very far away from replacing a smartphone and honestly luke. I don't know if ever

78:44 It is just Not more efficient to use natural language instruction compared to tapping on a screen for a lot of things

78:53 Like this is kind of like that. I can't say ever though recently where ever is going to be incorrect for sure

78:58 You're definitely wrong. I can I can't say ever. Hold on and I'm I'm gonna say ever

79:03 I'm Give me a second. Okay, because we we recently had this conversation yet again when some

79:09 Microsoft executive said that the keyboard and mouse was going away and we're like, no, it's not

79:14 Because it's just always going to be faster to move something this far. Wait

79:21 To move something this far And have that translated to something this far on a screen

79:27 Then moving your whole hand that far literally by definition

79:32 That will always be faster. That's not the argument in the same

79:36 And it so it well the argument is that you won't need the other thing anymore

79:41 Right. Yeah, and there is always going to be okay. Tell tell me this. Tell me this

79:47 Let's use let's use a use case That tech companies love to use because the people who work on their use case

79:57 Examples and the people who work on these presentations have money to travel

80:01 So they're always talking about travel even though most people don't travel and certainly don't travel regularly

80:09 Okay, let's talk about travel You are researching flights

80:14 On your screen whether that screen is attached to your eye holes or attached to your pocket computer or attached to your laptop or desktop

80:22 There are some flight options What will always be the fastest way to select the one

80:31 that you want Are you talking with what device?

80:37 Or physically how I would do it Clicking on it. I don't know

80:42 eye tracking could Get us there

80:46 But we're always going to have to have a way to indicate that that because we can't just have things randomly click on when we look at

80:54 Yes, you need to select so there's always there's always going to have to be a gesture

80:59 Or an eye blink or a or a neural

81:03 Thing that we're going to have to train ourselves to do like there's going to have there's going to have to be

81:08 Something and in that time it will always have been faster

81:13 to move my finger And go like this always

81:17 I don't think so. So that's that's the point. Well, how will it be faster? That's that's my question neural links like you were mentioning

81:24 not eye tracking Because like you said the the confirmation of input is the issue with eye tracking

81:30 I mean you confirmation of input is yeah, the nea was from freaking ocz and like 20 years ago

81:39 I get it and you're saying ever so if we're talking

81:43 A hundred years in the future. You think we're still going to be using computer mice

81:50 Yeah, I actually yeah, I think so a hundred years

81:53 Dude, Japan still Japan is phasing out floppy disks. We're not talking about Japan

81:59 No, we're not talking about Japan. Japan will absolutely still be using computer mice

82:04 Okay, that was a very bad Japan might be using fax machines a hundred years from now

82:10 That was a bad faith argument

82:13 But I think I know and and we technically you're saying forever

82:16 So it could be 700 years from now if uh if the earth still exists

82:21 And we haven't nuked humanity into nonexistence. Um, I I think at some point in time

82:28 the Computing as a whole will dramatically change and I think it's going to be because

82:35 Neural input and output is going to be a very wild thing. I do not think we are even sort of close

82:42 I don't I don't know if we're going to see that in our lifetimes But saying forever is crazy. I think there's there's no way we see that in our lifetime

82:51 man, like I'm like I'm trying to think of what the like what would be the infrastructure

82:57 involved in

83:01 Neural interfaces that are so ubiquitous that you could

83:06 You could make a good faith argument that we have moved on from from tapping on things from from using our hands

83:12 from using these

83:16 Multi-million-year evolutionary marvels

83:24 Oh, it's gonna get weird. Maybe this is maybe this is my lack of imagination, right?

83:28 But I'm having a hard time imagining a technology that would allow us to non-invasively

83:35 read the mind So it'll be invasively for sure

83:40 So if it's going to be invasive I'm having a hard time imagining with people aren't going to do it

83:46 No, no, I'm not saying people won't do it. I'm just saying that we are we're squishy

83:50 and imperfect And messy and we're all a little different

83:56 And I'm having a hard time imagining something that is

84:00 commodity enough to invasively be

84:05 Implanted in the mind that will work that will stay functional over the span of like like aging and and injury and sickness and all the things

84:14 That happen in our messy messy messy bodies

84:17 I um

84:21 Yeah, I don't know man. It's gonna be it's gonna be pretty wild

84:24 When bingo says uh eye tracking and then training everybody to wiggle their ears from a young age

84:31 Ear wiggle it could be a great click method for smart glasses

84:36 Ear wiggles Yeah

84:40 Dragon tamer says the neuro link input guy has talked about not missing in games. He doesn't miss. I mean look

84:46 I I I'd be I'd be excited for neural inputs to get super good and super affordable. I just

84:56 I don't know dude It's gonna be

85:03 I have a hard time imagine it being relaxing maybe that's maybe that's what i'm getting kind of hung up on

85:08 So give us so give us uh Just a little bit. Just give us a little bit. Give us like uh

85:15 600-ish years We'll figure it out

85:22 The printing press was like pretty cool today mindblowing like like you wouldn't have conceived of the printing press as like a person who wasn't

85:30 Trying to invent it

85:34 Maybe part of my problem is i'm just a little pessimistic right now

85:38 I think it's easy to be like I'm glad you brought up the printing press because I don't know if you know this but like western literacy rates are falling at an alarming rate

85:47 Oh, yeah, right now. Yeah And so like i'm sitting here going

85:52 Okay, let's say we do figure this out a device that

85:56 we put on in the morning and it has like a

86:00 Like a wireless it has a wireless charging interface on one side and just uses our body heat for power

86:05 So we don't have to worry about batteries and then it has like a

86:08 Um like a close proximity high-speed data link on the other side that interfaces with like a brain

86:16 Wiring thing that's you know set up inside our mind or whatever. Yeah, so we so we put on this thing or let's go even

86:21 Let's go even further to the to the hypothetical future and let's say they're they're contact lenses or or whatever

86:27 I'll talk about that Yeah, so

86:31 I Do what?

86:37 I scroll Generated slot videos. This is are literally created by tapping into

86:44 My own subconscious mind to give me a drip feed of whatever it is that I most want to see and experience in the entire world

86:53 and I just Sit there in my chair. Is this really?

86:57 Am I am I getting have I reached old man yells at cloud this future doesn't look like the future. Can we stop now?

87:07 That doesn't mean you're right about keyboards

87:13 Dude, I don't know like I don't think you're wrong, but you can definitely scroll with a neural interface

87:20 Oh, yeah, no, no This is what people want

87:25 Yeah, with the yeah, oh god. Yeah, I mean

87:29 Oh lordy the yeah

87:36 Oh, my brain hurts, um

87:43 Yeah, I man can you imagine when they figure out how to tap into the part of your brain that lucid dreams

87:51 And you can just press you can just open up the lucid dream app on your frickin neural interface thing and you can just like

88:00 Start lucid dreaming

88:03 You can uh dream about holodeck dream about but that's gonna be the way to do it

88:08 Arby's yeah, I know I do it with brain drugs new new burger on available stores coming soon

88:14 From I don't even think they'll need to just inject advertisements right into your lucid dreams. Oh, yeah. Yeah

88:24 Like have you ever dreamt of a phone Linus? Have you ever had a phone in one of your dreams?

88:29 Have you heard about this? We could just have Have I ever had a phone in a dream? Have you heard about this idea? Yeah, I have yeah

88:37 I don't think I have you have is really interesting. You're the first person I've ever asked that to that has said yes

88:42 Yeah, I had I had a dream once that um that the office was like invaded

88:48 And so I was using my phone to type like security code words and stuff

88:54 interesting Yeah

88:59 I just needed it So it's it's like it's it's very much the same reason that I have a phone in real life

89:05 That I have a phone in my dream because I need to do stuff with it Yeah

89:13 Yeah, sorry, I wish it was a more interesting answer. Um

89:17 It's interesting that it's as a tool though So that that might make a little bit more sense. I would I never I was not using it. I wasn't like like recreation

89:26 Using it. I don't think I've ever dreamed Of recreationally playing a video game. I don't think I've ever dreamed of recreationally

89:34 Recreationally using my phone For sure. No

89:40 Dude, I can't wait until the apps on your freaking smart glasses are just things like

89:45 Lucid dream now and just like dopamine hit now

89:49 Because it's all just gonna be it's all just gonna be wired up and it's gonna give you like an electrical impulse in your brain

89:55 and you can just be like It's freaking it's gonna be like opioid addiction

90:00 On steroids and on opium. You'll just be like dopamine. Dope into dope into dope into like faster than you

90:06 Can think it you'll be able to just like hit the dopamine button

90:10 Dude, this is gonna be wild and then they're gonna monetize it

90:15 Yep Yep

90:21 Every WAN Show it's amazing how we reach a new level of this is all just gonna be dystopia

90:28 Blundetto says just press the nut button

90:37 They're gonna make special underwear Yeah, for sure. Definitely. We're gonna we're gonna have man pads

90:45 I think it'll just auto evacuate

90:56 All right, uh Should we do the cw announcement?

91:02 Do you want me to do it I can do it uh Yeah, just introducing I can do it if you want to put up the screen cap sure

91:10 Or the screen I got you. Sorry. I'm I'm sad right now. You're good. I still don't see it in the collection Dan

91:17 Oh god, I thought you said it's there What do you mean?

91:21 the thing good I have no idea what they're talking about right now. So I'm just gonna

91:29 Sit here and

91:33 Um stall for time

91:36 I checked the global one and it's there. I checked the us one and it's not there. That's what it says in the note

91:41 I think you guys are talking about the desk pad. I didn't check the note. I didn't know it was only in one of them

91:45 Okay, I found it. We're good Introducing the glitch collection. We've got three new items launching on LTT Store today including

91:55 The glitch t-shirt featuring a unique hem pattern at the bottom of the shirt

92:00 I That's an

92:03 That's that's a very boring description for basically lisa did a cool design that was

92:08 sort of inspired by like a like a smashed broken lcd panel with the

92:14 Oh, like with the yeah, that is really cool

92:18 yeah so

92:21 It's supposed to be a little bit of smash broken panel a little bit of like GPU memory artifacting

92:27 um, and it's it's just meant to to kind of

92:31 You know inspire memories of push that overclock too hard or uh dropped my laptop, you know

92:39 I think it's awesome. I think it's the like The me saying this is gonna immediately make it not that so i'm sorry, but I think it's like kind of the swaggiest shirt we've

92:48 released I think it's like actually just raw cool. It just looks cool

92:54 And like so many of our designs over the years

92:58 It's meant to be like if you know, you know

93:01 tech inspired Yeah, just genuinely cool and you can actually wear it. There is no logo, is there?

93:09 Uh, I there's one inside the

93:12 Inside the back of the nape of the neck. Yeah, I mean like uh

93:16 Visible on the outside of the shirt Yeah, I mean we've we've taken a pretty light branding approach for

93:23 Many years now. I think I can say multiple multiple years now

93:27 And it's it's always baffling to me when people say I love the LTT Store stuff

93:31 But there's just too much branding on it's like bro. You got no idea what branding looks like

93:36 We're pretty we take a pretty light touch when it comes to branding. I don't think this one has a logo on it

93:41 I don't think so. I think it looks really cool though We also have a lenticular pin that changes depending on where you view it from as part of the glitch collection

93:50 And we've got this design on a brand new desk pad. The desk pad is on the global site now

93:56 So that's canada plus worldwide and will be available on the us site shortly

94:01 They just haven't arrived at our us warehouse yet So if you're from the us and you want to purchase a glitch desk pad

94:07 Maybe hold off on your purchase until they are available shop now at LMG.gg

94:13 Slash glitch

94:18 I actually kind of wonder if this is one of those cases where we should have just set up back orders

94:21 I didn't I haven't been in town. So I didn't really have a chance to talk to the team about it in general

94:26 I'm very opposed to pre-orders and back orders, but if it's something where it's just like, yeah, the truck is like

94:33 10 blocks away Then maybe I don't know. Yeah, the trade situation with us did literally just change. So

94:44 Is there another one

94:49 What is it now within the last I think 24 hours, uh, trump said trade talks are off with canada

94:56 Why uh, he's he's a fentanyl again

95:00 No, he's saying it's because an advertisement that was being ran inside of canada by

95:05 Some level of government saying that tariffs are bad

95:08 But a lot of the speculation that I'm seeing is that it's actually because

95:13 Canada's and trade talks with china right now about strengthening our trade relations

95:18 Oh, we should keep doing that Yeah, uh

95:22 Merch messages you want to explain it and I'll try to be the guide

95:27 Um Or I can't I just thought it would be funny to do it this way

95:31 If you guys, uh

95:34 If you guys want to, uh Interact with the show

95:38 We don't want you to just throw money at the screen because we think that when you throw money at your screen

95:44 You should get quality merchandise in return instead of just an acknowledgement from a streamer or whatever. I actually thought

95:51 Oh crap. I'm gonna get it wrong. It was it was one of the it was one of the like

95:58 Like no life reaction to everything streamers. I can't remember which one but someone someone recently

96:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was one of them. I'm I'm so what did he do? What did they do?

96:11 Basically, they were like, hey, yeah, don't donate to me. I'm rich enough and I thought that was super cool. Was that was that moist?

96:19 Uh, didn't that happen a while ago?

96:23 I think he's done it multiple times. Yeah, apparently it was moist critical. Yeah, cool

96:28 It was recently regarding the whole youtube members only content thing when we turned off our members only content

96:34 um Anyway, the point is uh, yeah, he was he was like, yeah, don't don't donate to me

96:41 You shouldn't be donating to me. We have felt that way

96:44 For a very very very long time, which is why we created merch messages

96:50 So instead of instead of donating, um, you should just like get high quality merchandise

96:56 If you want to support the show obviously that's not as profitable for us as just

97:00 Taking your money But we take pride in what the creator warehouse team creates like the glitch desk pad that you guys are looking at right there

97:08 And we think that we make quality products that last a long time

97:12 And we think it's just a way cooler healthier way for us to to to grow and to support our team

97:18 And also for you guys to get great high quality products

97:22 So all you got to do to send a merch message To interact with the show is add something to your cart on lttstore.com when we're live

97:29 You're going to see a little box that's going to give you an opportunity to fill out your merch message

97:34 That'll go to producer Dan Hey, there he is

97:38 You can pick your color for your merch message You can anonymize your name or you can have your name show up and then Dan will either

97:44 Pop it up on the screen with like a little acknowledgement. You could be like, hey, what's up mom? How you doing jerry?

97:50 Or you can Ask a question and if your question

97:54 Is something that Dan can answer or even if it's something that he can't he might just you know?

97:59 Reply to you and say something irrelevant or he might answer it

98:03 Or he might forward it to someone who can get back to you or he might curate it

98:06 And then it'll go to me and luke and we will talk about your merch message

98:14 That's right, we've got a few in already

98:17 We've got a couple here. Oh, also if you allow your email to be shared

98:22 Then I can also send you over to support if you have something that might be relevant for our team to follow up with

98:27 Um got one here from jonathan. Hey dlo love. No, it is not luke and I sorry. Hold on

98:32 We're having an argument about grammar. Oh, I love semantics

98:36 The way to tell if it's luke and I or me and luke is which one of those words would have applied properly to you

98:45 So if you remove the other party for the sentence because I went to the store

98:51 Dan Is really mean to me and luke because Dan is really mean to me

98:58 It's that easy and nobody knows that which is like crazy because

99:05 Like when I was in school, nobody ever explained that to me. I had to figure that out on my own

99:11 I was like, how do I figure out these rules? And I like I kind of like came up with that and then I looked it up and it was like that's totally a thing

99:17 But no teacher ever explained that to me which drove me crazy

99:22 So knowing how easy it is It drives me even more nuts when people do it wrong because it's actually that easy

99:33 Isn't that crazy Anyway, sorry Dan go ahead hit chat trying to

99:38 Grammar nazi the grammar nazi is is a is a battle to behold me fail english. That's impossible

99:47 Um, hey deal. I love the show question for Linus. How is the LTT bitcase coming along?

99:54 Oh good. Yeah, I've got one with me right now

99:58 uh, oh, I am tethered

100:02 But I mean they've seen it on the show before you have showed it off a couple times. Yeah, but not everyone has

100:06 You assume everyone watches every video. They do every single person does every way show viewer comes back every week

100:13 Because the ones that I interact with are full-plate chat and a lot of them actually do

100:17 I mean to tell me people don't watch every week Okay

100:29 What is he's just we've we've seen it like so many times

100:34 He didn't need to go I want to show people my travel loadout. Oh cool. Okay. That's kind of neat

100:39 All right, that adds a spin to it. Yeah, he's okay with it. This is my this is my way of carrying

100:45 Everything that I need when I'm traveling without having anything that looks too suspicious

100:51 So in my in one bag because I'll usually have my my roller bag

100:55 Like my carry-on size roller bag and then I'll have a personal item. I'll have a backpack. So in one bag

101:00 I will keep um, my stubby screwdriver

101:03 So this is well under the limit of every

101:07 Customs and security authority that I have ever encountered

101:12 I think I figured out what you're going with this In there. Okay, then I'll carry my my LTT bitcase. I lost one. So, uh, cw made me a new one that

101:23 Has my name printed on it. Thank you cw. Appreciate you. I think it was probably tying in

101:29 And then I've got all the bits that I will generally need in there that are not part of like the standard bit set

101:35 So I got my torques. I've got my imperial hex my metric hex and then I have a couple specialty ones

101:39 This is kind of my my loadout for this

101:42 So I keep those together and then separately in my other bag. I will keep a shaft extension. So then I can

101:51 Convert my stubby screwdriver into

101:55 So you could still use the knurling and everything and then I've got my bit set because I could see getting a precision set

102:03 Taken just because it's so obviously extremely sharp and pointy and like

102:08 It just looks really weird in the scanner But this and this alone without the shaft extension is just like yeah, it's a little it's a short tool

102:17 Which you're allowed to have and then the shaft extension on its own

102:21 Is nothing. It's just a metal It's a metal second. You were like I put the stubby in this bag. I was like, I know exactly what he's doing

102:29 Yeah, so this is this is my travel kit. That's fantastic that I can

102:33 Uh, yeah, it it's in derastric says I had an iFixit screwdriver taken in sydney that doesn't surprise me at all

102:40 whereas This and to be clear. This is not advice. I'm not this is not advice

102:46 If you take your stubby screwdriver and all if all your stuff gets taken. I'm not liable. I'm not responsible

102:52 It's always kind of up to them So I have not had trouble with this in the past

102:56 But you never know when you're going to run into a tsa agent who's having a bad day or whatever

103:01 And at the end of the day, it's it's their judgment call. So

103:05 um I've had good luck with it, but

103:10 Your mileage may vary I forget what the question was. Did I answer it bit when when when arriving big case?

103:18 Oh, oh, oh, okay. Why don't you move on to the next one while I look that up then

103:21 Okay, sure. How are you gentlemen?

103:25 Uh, it's not a question. It's just got exclamation points. Don't answer. I lost your base are belong to us

103:30 Ever I lost a bunch. No way to survive make your time

103:36 I can't handle this man. You have no chance to survive damn

103:40 Nearly I lost a bunch of weight this year and I'm reloading on newer smaller shirts

103:45 Are any of you working on any long-term personal goals right now? And if so, how are those going?

103:51 My house not BMS. That's the only thing. Sorry Dan. Nope. Nope. We're not able to talk about that yet

103:56 I didn't think so. That is not that is not nearly as important as this Dan. You need to show this to the stream

104:08 I will ask no questions. This is tremendously important. Give me one second

104:14 Come on. Come on. There we go. Uh, okay. Is everybody ready?

104:19 Look, are you ready? So I look so I don't know Luke

104:22 Surability to Ken has already been created by the illustrious sarabot. Oh, he's so cute

104:31 Apparently she was watching. Oh my god. How is this possible?

104:37 It's so adorable whoop Her her message to me simply says

104:44 Uh, hold on. Let me see if I can find this. Yeah, here we go. Uh

104:48 He lives here. I don't know why but he feels like he needs a top hat

104:57 That's awesome. There we go. It could be our friend for the show

105:06 Okay, I'm sorry, uh, Dan you were saying uh, you're doing any long-term goals

105:13 Uh, oh, right. Sorry. Yes, Luke. I'd love to hear your long-term goals

105:16 No, just my house not being screwed up. I I haven't been doing like anything else. I've been going to work and working on that

105:22 so I don't know and then once I don't know it for the first half of november

105:28 I'm just gone again So like I've been out of the gym for a long time, but I've been doing physical things

105:32 So I've been working on the house. So like I don't know I feel mostly okay

105:36 But I'll get back on the wagon when my house is not completely screwed and I am in the country those things are

105:43 decently important sometimes I do work out on the road, but it's kind of hard to find

105:48 some gyms are really expensive for drop-in and

105:51 Usually I'm really busy with whatever reason I'm on the road for so

105:57 Yeah I can't remember if Linus answered. Sorry. I'm he did not

106:02 I haven't I actually have a dock. This is my this is my like

106:08 Everything from my ADD brain dump dock

106:11 It's like 17 pages of just wall of text of like random business ideas

106:17 I've had over the years sometimes. It's just like like a line that I'm like

106:24 That'd be funny. That would be funny like I uh, oh man

106:29 Do I still? Uh, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I have a section called script ideas that I never really like ended up

106:37 using it using but I had these I have these two funny things that I never remember because I never really use it

106:43 I only remember it when I'm not actually writing, but I had these I have these two ideas in here

106:48 Um, so I have this one trying to do something by scowling at it

106:53 and then scowling at it harder with like

106:57 With like a hat on or something. I don't know but it'd be funny like uh, like basically okay. Look, it's a it's a it's a

107:04 It's only partially baked. Okay. The point is that like

107:07 It sounds like a funny Yeah, right like I was trying to I was trying to get my I was trying to get my my iphone

107:14 Uh transfer wizard to work properly. Uh, apple wasn't helpful. So I tried like scowling at it

107:22 That didn't work. So I scowled at it harder and unfortunately that didn't work either

107:26 So all my messages are still on my Android phone. Like that's how I would kind of

107:30 What is he called how I would integrate what's what's the two cans name Linus?

107:36 Yeah, yeah ability to can ability to but I think with his distinguished top hat

107:41 He needs to be sir ability to can sir ability to can yeah, and whenever I can't anymore

107:47 I lose him now. He's on the hand. He's yeah, he's pretty sure in your hand. I like that

107:51 Yeah, sir ability to can Um, do you have any other examples from your doc?

107:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

108:02 Okay, so oldest video idea hold on. Hold on. I got another I got another joke. I got another joke idea

108:07 I need to joke about how

108:11 Um, like some color Like it like it's like an RGB joke

108:16 Like a joke about how this this color needs more r and more b to be the right color

108:22 Like I'm playing around with like a slider and then like r and b music starts playing

108:28 Oh, that's excellent. Or like I take away all the g and then just like music turns on like just

108:35 Oh, if you take away if it's rap music, can you take a while to g and it stops being rap music?

108:44 I actually kind of like that Oh, so I don't know man like this. It's just like it's my doc

108:51 I already dinged it. I think oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, he dinged it. He dinged it

108:56 Um, so I do I do oh, so you want an old video idea? Okay. No the video idea doc is a different doc

109:01 I think oh, I might have purged it. Oh, no. No, I still have it. Oh dude. I still have it

109:06 Um, oh my god. This is a terrible idea entire here's the luke

109:11 Here's the luke section of video ideas. I knew I had seen this doc

109:16 No Oh, no, this is old

109:20 Yeah, pizza warmer pc part two is in here. So I can delete that we've done that now. Nice

109:25 Uh, let's get rid of that and then I've got

109:30 771 to 775 sticker conversion So that idea is obviously old enough that wanting to use an lga 775 processor was valid

109:40 Uh, ultimate gamer pc with a ps4 xbox one in a we you inside. We've done it now. I can delete that

109:46 Yeah, dude. Wow. We've actually like done some of this stuff. Um, here's one that is a terrible idea

109:52 fireplace mod put a tv

109:56 In an old fireplace with speakers and play the LTT yule log video

110:04 Why would we do that? Why would I even write that down?

110:09 That's an entire video that sounds like a me yeah, that's the whole video idea. Yeah, it sounds cool. I like that

110:14 It sounds like it'd be easy to shoot too. Yeah

110:17 What computer out of one inch blocks?

110:21 What does that even mean? Is that the whole title one inch blocks?

110:25 Yeah, I don't know what that means one inch. I have one that says ready for vr

110:30 I have like six r's is bull spit

110:34 Uh, remember that vr ready badge? Yeah, okay. So that was a very timely thing as well. That's gone now

110:40 I Mac mod this just says I mac mod. Okay. No, that makes sense. It says balls to the wall web server

110:51 That I bet you that was probably we were trying to get something for flow plane. That's my guess. Oh probably. Yeah

110:58 It's a link to my inbox. So I'm clicking and I think it's pulling this off of tape

111:02 Um

111:06 Balls to the wall web server. I don't know what I don't know what any of this is. Okay, forget it. This is garbage

111:13 Uh Some of this we could still do full screen versus borderless window input legs slash FPS

111:21 That was from a that's still not a bad idea

111:25 That's still not a bad idea. Yeah Because you know what we could do fan filters affect airflow. That's another good one from alex 91 underscore cy

111:33 Do you know about the latency introducer box thing the Labs has I do I do what if we

111:40 Figure it out. I don't think we've talked about that input leg gap between windowed and borderless

111:46 And then forced the windowed one

111:50 Sorry forced the yeah windowed mode on borderless

111:54 Uh figured out that gap and then forced it with the input box and then tried to see if people could tell

112:01 Can you tell the difference between windowed mode and borderless?

112:05 Uh, I think I can tell you the answer to that already. I don't think people will be a lot of people think they can though

112:13 Interesting well, okay, but but part of why a lot of people think they can might be because

112:19 The implementation on some games was really bad. Like I think it was csgo that if you were in

112:26 Borderless and then you alt tabbed and went back in the game It was trash and we found this out because we were doing something and it was a problem for us

112:36 Um, because normally you wouldn't alt tab out of your full screen video game and then go back into it

112:41 But like that's fixed now. So I don't know

112:47 There might be some games where it's still a problem, but I sincerely doubt that it's most of them

112:55 Okay, keep going what else we got uh, oh

112:59 No, oh, yeah more more video ideas from him not topics for you Dan

113:07 Sure, um Oh, dude the usbc versus micro b durability test is under james

113:14 We made that video that was one of the first videos he worked on

113:18 So the last time I used my to-do list for your guys's video ideas was probably when I did

113:23 That wave of hiring when we hired emily james and alex that makes sense

113:27 We actually did some of the alex ones too ultimate air cooled pc giant industrial fan thing. We did it

113:34 Actual single slot mod with hacked off stock cooler and remounted 120 millimeter fan. We did that too

113:40 That's crazy. That is crazy

113:43 Make a heat sink for like ten dollars with a hacksaw on a chunk of metal bench against a stock cooler. We did that too

113:50 Yeah, so unlike luke alex actually like did all the work that was assigned to him before

113:55 He wasn't working here anymore. I guess he's still got time though

113:59 I did a ton of it There's things we removed off the dock because they were done

114:04 my goodness because I Someone else did it jordan did your pizza warming pc

114:11 I could have done that if you wanted I'll do version three

114:15 And I'll make it worse Yeah, I was gonna say

114:19 I dx12 and vulcan was on that dock. I'm pretty sure and it just got done. So it was removed off

114:25 Oh, no, that was on a different dock. We had a we I created a different dock later. This one's older

114:31 Um Oh, okay. So right right, right. I remember how we got on this subject

114:35 I was supposed to talk about goals. So this is where I put goals

114:39 So one of my goals is to fix my calendars

114:43 Um, my calendars are a mess. I have like a billion calendars. And then do you remember that sponsored video we did on that?

114:50 Um, that like conference room booking tablet thing. Yes, actually anyone remember this? Yes, I do. Yeah

114:57 So some of as part of that video one of my calendars got

115:02 Exposed publicly and so for years I had just like spam events that would pop up on my phone because the calendar was like

115:12 Bound to a work account that was shared to my other account and then my personal account was that I could I

115:18 It took me a while to figure out like how they were all intertwined

115:22 Um, and they're still kind of messed up my calendar my calendars are kind of a mess. So I need to fix my calendars

115:27 Why don't you just you have a person for this? Um

115:34 Yeah, I am probably you're the worst at using an

115:39 assistant Yes

115:43 That is exactly what I was about to say

115:46 Because if it's really easy I might as well do it and if it's hard I need to do it

115:53 So I just end up in a my flow chart is like no matter what screw it. I'll just do it

116:00 Oh, man To be clear. I this is not a knock against vance. Vance is awesome. Um

116:08 He he actually does a lot for me, but just not that

116:14 Like like travel for instance like vance checks me into all my flights dude. He's getting fast. So like

116:19 Not the check is so he has Oh like bookings and stuff. Yeah

116:24 We worked through something this week and it was zooming

116:28 That might be why Um, but but yeah, like like he he he definitely like helps me with with very useful stuff

116:36 Or just like if I'm if I'm like, oh crap. I need to follow up on that

116:41 I'll be like vance. Can you follow up on that? He'll he'll get it. He'll get it. He'll get it going for me

116:47 Um, so yeah, like it's great, but no, I'm I'm not good at

116:52 Delegating. Oh, I have fixed my kid's password managers

116:56 I need to do that. My kids still don't have password managers and they're like

116:59 Making their way into their teens at this point and it is becoming a problem, especially because

117:05 Um, one of my kids has a password manager So we've been really inconsistent about where the other kids passwords go

117:12 Sometimes they're in my password manager. Sometimes there are any bonds and sometimes they're in my eldests and

117:17 There's no consistency there. So we need to kind of deal with all that and we're not even all using the same password manager

117:24 So just sharing folders is not Straightforward either. You have the thing now though, right? I know I know but it's that's what I'm telling you

117:31 It's on my list to to deal with

117:34 Vance could do that too For my goals, I have right counting computers. That's at the top of my goals

117:42 So that's supposed to be the follow-up to the abc's of gaming

117:46 Which came out Five years ago

117:52 So I haven't done that nice, um, not jesus says you're truly the

117:58 Perfect example of a dude with adhd desperately in need of an assistant, but utterly incapable of utilizing one

118:07 Yes, yeah pretty much, um

118:12 Yeah Oh, I have have my eldest daughter drill something

118:17 We were at a family event and using a drill came up and she was like, I don't like drills. So that's something we need to get over

118:23 um I decided very early on in parenting that no daughter of mine will not be able to throw a ball properly or

118:32 Be able to drill a hole in a wall properly and use basic tools. That's just not acceptable

118:38 We I thought this might happen. We apparently used to just email each other

118:42 Like I found an email thread from 2014 where we're just

118:49 You're just like spamming emails like you you emailed me just the word free nas

118:56 The the thread is the thread is just called tasks and then you just emailed me free nas

119:02 So the first email is voiceover guide for diyAA

119:07 node 804 case

119:12 To the pf sense router guide overclocking guide preparation fix up our cabling situation here

119:18 um By extension cords wall mount power bars, etc

119:23 And then you responded to that one just saying free nas and then you responded to that one just saying when show set

119:30 And then you started to that one saying calendar spot for ball pit

119:35 And then I responded saying notes for myself find new ad partner for the forum

119:40 And no, I have no idea what calendar spot for ball pit means

119:45 So this explains why I got an email from Linus with just a picture and for when show on it

119:51 Oh, yeah, how you guys operate. Yeah, all right. That makes so much more sense. Everybody gets a pass

119:58 I mean email is just text messaging pretty much

120:03 Except it's less likely to get lost Oh

120:07 shoot Osiris in the chat says when is the big case coming out Linus?

120:13 Yeah, I searched for cw in my in my inbox and then I meant to

120:20 Actually click on any of the things that come up. Okay. This is from the weekly cw huddle october 21st

120:27 meeting NPIs or new product introductions

120:31 Let's see on 10 24. We will be introducing

120:36 The glitch t-shirt glitch desk pad and glitch pins

120:40 I guess you guys knew that already available now lttstore.com. Okay. What else we got here?

120:46 Thermochromic jacket something something

120:51 npi december

120:54 Uh is apparently going to be the bit case

120:58 so It is it is uh, it is green in the finalized launch date thing

121:04 So i'm pretty sure yeah, i'm pretty sure it should come in december sometime

121:10 But nothing is launched until it is actually launched as we know very well from our mod mat

121:20 Okay, what are we supposed to be doing?

121:23 I just I found uh

121:26 That was really random. I found my will Which was apparently in my work email

121:32 I was trying to find tasks And uh, yeah, that was uh, that was an interesting read. That's pretty old. Um, surprisingly still relevant

121:42 No, why would I give you? How'd I give you things?

121:46 You don't need anything. Let me see just in case. Well, it's not just about stuff. Isn't it?

121:52 It's about sharing bird and minus

121:55 What is it?

121:59 Pugboy says okay, but do the birds get anything? Oh wait actually

122:06 You are in it, but it's not about stuff

122:10 But is it is it mean? No, tell him I always hated him. No, it's not it's not mean

122:17 Tell me oh my god

122:22 Honestly, I would laugh I would actually think it's pretty funny

122:29 I My whole life I was

122:37 Oh my god the whole relationship was toxic and I hated every moment of it

122:42 It's like already been almost half my life. That would be intense. Oh my god

122:48 I would a dude I would I there's no way that even for a second I would believe it

122:54 So I would think it's pretty damn funny I had a conversation with someone the other day

122:59 um they

123:03 I'm not gonna get into the reasons why we were talking about

123:07 Like if I

123:10 Yeah, I can't I won't talk about why but I was like if I got diagnosed with cancer. I would tell Linus on wancho

123:18 That's so based. Oh, that's amazing. I don't this is not me doing that by the way, but surprise Linus

123:27 I was like we we've had this like thing forever that like if you died we would monetize

123:34 Your like death and if you know it was supposed to be a joke

123:37 But I was like, yeah, I mean I gotta tell him somehow

123:40 Linus would probably be like no no no save that for the show anyway if you try not to

123:45 I feel really important till you save it for the show save it for the show

123:49 You just you just send your email to him that just says

123:52 Death And nothing else

123:58 Subject death

124:01 Tasks Casket

124:10 Oh man, um, okay

124:17 Anywho, um, oh dude. Oh my god

124:20 Speaking of monetizing my death Um

124:24 Oh go ahead you go first So the thing the reason why I'll just say it, uh, I don't know if people are gonna like this or not

124:29 They might dislike it, but you know what? I am who I am in my will and the person who wrote it for me

124:36 Made it very clear that there was no expectation that this could happen that they were not entirely comfortable with writing it in

124:42 Um, but in my will is there's a certain amount of funds that should be put aside

124:49 To to to rent a boat and small and buy a smaller boat

124:54 And go it into international waters and then put me in a wooden boat

124:57 And push me away and then shoot it with a flaming arrow And that's how I want my probably the one person that you could imagine would

125:05 Even have any means the means and the will to do it. Thanks, man

125:11 Yeah Okay, I understand why I'm in the now see that's what I'm saying. It's not just material stuff in the will

125:20 That's my point exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that that is actually legitimately in my

125:26 I don't think that's legal International waters this this is an important part. It has to be international waters

125:32 Yeah, but I would still have to I would still have to obtain your human remains in Canada

125:37 There is issues getting my Yeah, it remains offshore. That's why I was you're gonna have to pay a captain a lot. I think is the situation or

125:47 You just have to I think I know a guy. Yeah, or or you just have to buy the boat yourself

125:53 I think I know. I think I could find a guy I got I got I got some

125:58 Yeah, okay Where there's a will there's a way

126:03 Oh, yeah Yeah, I wrote this like you don't have to be dead if you want this would have been I think this would have been like 20

126:10 Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to get him out there if he's not dead yet

126:15 Well, he would be afterwards, but you know, yeah, but that's that's later

126:21 Yeah, yeah unique user name wrote you're gonna be a pain in the ass even when you're dead

126:25 The the lawyer person literally said effectively that they're like you can't really expect people to like do this much work

126:33 Like even if we figure out the legality problems like this is a lot of like

126:37 Hoops to jump what we could do. I think we could honor the spirit of the request

126:42 I think that we could get your ashes And then we could get like I think what we could do and I think I think you'd approve of this

126:49 I think you'd approve of this. I think we could get you remember slender man

126:52 That like weird cloth dummy that we obtained many years ago

126:57 Or like yeah Or we could use uh, you know our skeleton like steve like we could use an iconic piece of LMG

127:05 Or something right and then we could like put your ashes like in its heart or something like that

127:11 You know, we get them all like this on the thing We get a little robot. No, I think you're picking up what i'm throwing down

127:16 I think you're picking up what i'm throwing down So we put the ashes that are legally obtained we get like we get some some iconic

127:23 We we get some like man if we could obtain like an xbox 360 or

127:28 og xbox it has to be an og xbox We get an og xbox. We get your pc. We get some like

127:35 We get some Some relics of luke's life

127:39 Okay, kind of like egyptian egyptian farrow style. This is part of the plan. This is part of the plan

127:44 Yeah, but not maybe your wives or whatever, you know

127:48 And and then we put them we put them all on the boat And then we do the arrow. Okay, it

127:54 Realistically, none of us are archers. It might take a few shots the plant

127:57 I don't have the whole thing in here because it's my notes for it But the plan is that if I remember correctly it was supposed to be all of the let's go like

128:05 If my if say my dad and my brother are still your brother

128:08 It's like online of it's a line of yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

128:14 Yeah, and I imagine we'd have to bring a lot of arrows because like I don't think any of us are archery whizzes

128:19 And and like realistically we can't just shoot right at it. That's not the way. No, you have to arch you have to arc

128:25 Yeah, so we'd have to we have to arc it. Yeah So this could like take a while and then I would imagine that you'd want it to like as much as possible

128:34 Like be an event. Oh, yeah, so it would have to be

128:37 Like the like the boat there'd have to be like music like we'd need like kind of Nordic

128:42 Music kind of thing and like there there should be food

128:46 And it should kind of culminate in this moment when we put you out to sea and we like

128:50 And we we arc the flaming arrows onto the boat and we watch it burn

128:53 Yeah, hell yeah, like am I kind of am I kind of picking up the right vibe here?

128:57 That wasn't exactly what I was imagining, but it sounds fantastic. So hell yeah, okay

129:02 Yeah, that's all I think the like side details weren't honestly a lot of what I was trying to get across. No, it's the spirit

129:08 Yes, it's the spirit of the request. I think we could handle it. Yeah. Yeah, I think we could handle it

129:16 Yeah, but I realistically you're younger than me. So I'd ideally like for that to not happen so far. I'm doing all right, but that is

129:24 That is in there. Yeah, I insisted that it was important. They really didn't want to keep it in there and I insisted that it was important

129:32 You're such a pain in the neck

129:38 Oh And the fact that I'm thinking about this now is good

129:43 This is why it's important to talk about this stuff, right?

129:47 Thinking about this now when I can bounce ideas off of him and I can kind of read the body language

129:52 And we can have a back and forth conversation. It's not an easy conversation

129:55 But it's good because if if I was blindsided with this dude

129:59 Dude, I I do think you're right at the same time though. I think between like you and my brother and whoever else

130:05 I think you guys would have got it Yeah, I think so too. I just I do I do agree with what you're saying though. I do agree with what you said

130:13 Have you heard of daughter from california syndrome?

130:16 What? I learned I was yesterday years old when I learned about daughter from california syndrome

130:26 What I think that's what it's called. Let me double check Yeah, daughter from california california syndrome. It has a it has a wikipedia page and everything

130:34 And it's a phrase used in the american medical profession I'm just reading this off of wikipedia

130:39 To describe a hitherto disengaged relative who challenges the care of a dying elderly patient

130:47 And assists and insists that the medical team pursue aggressive measures to prolong the patient's life

130:54 So basically it's like how

130:58 It's the behavior of someone who's been uninvolved

131:02 With suddenly wants to be involved, but there's no real chance now

131:07 And and this is the way that their brain just like

131:10 This is a switch that flips in their brain that they have to keep this person alive

131:14 And that's the way that they can show that they care and we need to spend a ton of money

131:17 And we need to be really aggressive with the medical professionals who are

131:22 Doing their best and kind of trying to tell you look palliative care is the way now

131:26 um and yeah daughter from california syndrome and so you know i've gone through a couple of

131:32 family losses you know in my life and

131:36 It's it's such a thing it's

131:40 So much of a thing man Yeah, ksu wildcat in in Floatplane chat says literally my sister when my mom had been in hospice for over 18 months

131:50 Yeah, exactly. And so it's it and to be clear

131:53 I'm not like attacking these people for their behavior because it's probably part of their grieving process. Yeah

131:59 It sucks for everyone else and we need to not do that also, but like I understand that they're not in a great headspace, right?

132:07 um But like you never know who's going to show up and who's going to be

132:15 In a not great headspace at the time of someone's passing and when these instructions are not explicit

132:23 And when they're not discussed ahead of time Then there's a lot more room for ambiguity and and it can it can be really stressful

132:31 Um, like it was it was really It was really stressful

132:36 Going through some of this stuff when my sister passed Um, my family is not the least fragmented family of all time

132:43 I mean, I think I've been pretty open that my parents split when I was I don't even know if I was one yet

132:48 um and There's been that that was the beginning not the end of that story and so

132:57 um There was a lot of you know

133:03 There was a lot of disagreement about you know, what should be done and it was it was tough man. It was really tough

133:11 I feel like I've been Relatively fortunate in that regard

133:17 um Both with my brother because I don't imagine it will be even sort of an issue between the two of us and also

133:26 um The the relatives that were closer to me

133:30 That passed there was no real none of those complications

133:34 There were there were some that I know of but they weren't yeah, you told me about some

133:40 Yeah, yeah, they were they're involved like creating a lot of work for especially your dad. Yeah, that was not cool

133:46 Yeah, I yeah, I know the thing you're I know the thing. Yeah, my dad is surprisingly good at tanking stuff

133:53 So he was able to handle that he's a deescalator. Yes. So yeah, so he was able to handle that which was which was good

133:59 That shouldn't have happened. No, I agree And I think I think something people who are grieving forget is everyone else is grieving too

134:08 It's like really not the time for fights And I can understand like if time to make it about yourself if you you know

134:15 You you might be genuinely getting screwed over by someone who is just being a huge jerk and like

134:20 You might need to kind of defend yourself to a certain degree, but like

134:25 Man, it's crazy that this is like kind of a default in most scenarios

134:29 Like most most conversations have had with people about someone passing

134:34 There is a lot of disagreements and a lot of fights. It's just kind of sad

134:39 Yeah And I think that's I don't remember because it's been quite a while since I wrote it

134:43 But I think that was one of my motivations for my thing because it's so like crazy and grandiose

134:48 That either you do it or I don't care man. Just do whatever

134:54 And if you do it then like sick and whatever interpretation you have of that sick, um

135:00 Yeah, memorable. Yeah, exactly

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140:13 Luke, what do you want to talk about? Two more topics. I mean, maybe we should get through the the Floatplane thing too

140:21 No, no, we should do some more topics Android box manufacturer softlocks devices sold below official minimum price

140:30 Scummy actions Android box manufacturers super box is locking consumer devices to get back at retailers

140:37 If a retailer is delinquent in their debts Really or sells a device below the official minimum price set by us

140:46 Super box will softlock consumers devices and instructs end users to contact the retailer

140:53 as the fastest way to resolve the issue Dude, this is what mafia level stuff here

141:02 Super box advertising around this the set tops. I'm

141:06 So I'm super box. Okay. I sell you 10 super boxes

141:12 You're a retailer. You are having a hard time moving them. So you discount them

141:17 You sell your 10 super boxes. Okay a bunch of our WAN Show viewers

141:22 Let's say Here, I'm going to name some currently pooping annem white pwn crackers pk7

141:30 crystal pc master raze

141:33 unique username david k booger flinger and

141:38 nipple is cage

141:41 These are actual Floatplane users all of them

141:45 You guys truly are the float goats So

141:48 They all buy these boxes, right?

141:51 at a discount I found out that you sold them at a discount

141:57 I softlock their devices so they stop working and I tell them

142:02 They've got to go back to you so you can compensate me for selling them at a discount

142:08 How flipping? Wild is that imagine?

142:12 Imagine living in the brain of the person who is a big enough a hole to do this

142:19 crazy Super box advertises

142:23 So what is the super box tops as ip tv boxes?

142:27 The brand doesn't appear to sell direct to consumer or advertise its msrp's

142:32 Even or even authorized resellers. Yeah rough. So customers would be hard pressed to avoid suspiciously low prices as superbox advises

142:42 Were they even aware it was a possibility? unfortunately the practice of setting a

142:48 Minimum advertised price or map or minimum resales price mrp

142:53 of a price maintenance and

142:56 end of price maintenance Are all legal in the u.s. And canada

143:03 What is price maintenance wild? I've actually never heard of price maintenance. I have heard of map. I've heard the other ones. I haven't heard of price maintenance

143:13 Yeah, I'm gonna have to click on this our link is from the Price maintenance may occur when a supplier prevents a customer from selling a product below a minimum price. Okay

143:23 It may also occur when a supplier refuses to supply a customer or otherwise discriminates against them because of their low pricing policy

143:30 Okay, it's illegal only in certain circumstances However, the part where you brick the consumers box almost certainly has to be illegal

143:39 However, these are essentially pirate streaming boxes as far as I can tell

143:45 So they're already operating in

143:48 a completely Nebulous

143:52 legal area And it shouldn't surprise you that people who run sort of

143:59 Morally ambiguous businesses participate in morally ambiguous business practices

144:06 This just felt like the single most egregious case of

144:13 You no longer own the products that you buy that I had yet seen it went kind of viral on the subreddit

144:20 And I just couldn't believe it. I wanted to flag this if you guys know anyone in your life who is

144:27 Considering a super box make sure they know not to buy this. This is

144:34 Mind-blowing to to use

144:38 My ability to use my device as leverage against

144:43 The seller who sold it to me

144:47 What?

144:50 Yeah, lol inverse says the worst you've seen so far

144:59 I mean I get honestly, I don't even know it would this be illegal

145:02 Hold on a second because if it's legal to just turn off the service of a device that you ordered for no reason whatsoever

145:10 Like is this any worse Like yeah, it's it's it's more insidious like it's like worse in a sense

145:16 I guess but the outcome is the same the device you paid for doesn't work anymore

145:23 Too far gone says put them in the flaming with I think this makes me more uncomfortable if the box

145:30 Wouldn't normally rely on a service if that makes sense

145:35 I think it does though because they're they're probably running their own pirate streaming

145:38 Which is probably a big part of why they don't have a reseller list and they don't have an msrp

145:43 Right because they're just trying to stay as as under the radar as this was a really good idea if you want to stay under the radar

145:52 I know right stupid

145:58 Anyway, all right, we can moving on Uh

146:02 Open ai unveils its chromium-based chat gpt web browser atlas as a tool for

146:08 Vibe-living the same week microsoft launches copilot mode in edge and introduces

146:14 Mico the new clippy I would have been actually totally down for them to just bring clippy back not whatever mico is

146:22 atlas chat gpt's thing looks and functions like a traditional web browser

146:26 But it adds chat gpt functions and features throughout opening a new tab

146:30 Let's you either enter a url or ask chat gpt a question, uh, which is just googling things these days

146:38 browser memory is an optional Tool that tracks the pages and topics you've explored so atlas can suggest related content

146:47 Help you revisit past research and automate repetitive tasks

146:52 Hey, it's recall And now you're asking for it. Hey, let's go vibe-living

147:00 Uh, we believe we can start in the long run to have an amazing tool for vibe-living

147:07 Will Ellsworth the research lead for agent mode in atlas said during the live stream

147:13 So delegating all kinds of tasks both in your personal and professional life to the agent and atlas is apparently vibe-living

147:22 Okay Uh microsoft's edge co-pilot mode does really similar stuff to atlas with co-pilot actions performing similar

147:31 Simple tasks for you and the journeys feature remembering your password. Okay, so it's the same thing

147:36 Both browsers claim to and they're both chromium. Uh, hooray

147:39 Both browsers claim to care about your privacy cough cough

147:42 They definitely don't and they need permissions to take actions on sensitive sites such as financial institutions

147:48 Um They probably actually don't want to do that because the liability so they might actually care about that microsoft introduced

147:54 Mico or microsoft co-pilot mico. Yeah, okay. Maybe it is mico if it's microsoft co-pilot

148:02 Yeah, okay. I don't know anymore. Who knows. I think it's probably whatever you want it to be

148:07 Uh, a new visual presence slash mascot

148:10 It listens reacts and even changes colors to reflect your interactions. Well, it's a mood sensing ring

148:17 Everybody's just comparing it to clippy although. I can't show you because they don't have access to the dock where apparently everybody's doing that

148:24 Um, remember when cortana was supposed to be this? Yeah

148:29 At least that was cool because it was like xbox and halo and like

148:34 If cortana just didn't just like royally suck

148:38 It would have been all right. Yeah, I didn't mind the general implementation of cortana. I actually thought the idea was cool

148:45 It was just terrible at everything that it tried to do

148:50 Charge nuclei 8d 300 says it was never cool

148:55 You take that back The branding was cool. The branding was awesome. It was cool that they paid the actual cortana voice actress

149:04 That was cool. Yeah, the the like functionality of cortana was not as

149:10 Interesting the functionality was the entire problem And it's not the functionality like they they decided it would do the the wrong things

149:18 And I wanted to do other things the things that it could theoretically do were often actually kind of neat

149:22 It just couldn't do them very well. That was the problem

149:28 Clippy comes up if you click on my go too much from satya

149:33 Really, what do you mean clippy? Imagine being aware enough that it's just clippy and that people are kind of nostalgic for clippy to do that

149:42 But not being aware enough to just make the mascot clippy

149:46 Oh, my go is so generic and boring too. Oh, no

149:52 Oh, that sucks. You should just be able to I mean, I'm sure eventually you'll be able to buy skins

149:58 Yeah, wow, this is such a okay. What am I supposed to click on here clicky comparisons? Okay

150:05 Uh

150:08 It's just could be okay. This is it

150:16 That's that's my go I like our toucan better. Yeah, my go's just a blob

150:25 You can't offend anybody if it's not anything

150:28 I guess I don't know. I don't know those colors seem yeah, that's true

150:33 Um distinctly

150:36 Like they could be too human or maybe they'd seem like they're not human enough. That's true. That one looks like a sour peach

150:43 Yeah

150:47 But yeah, apparently if you uh

150:53 I didn't see who's doing thing I missed out

150:56 Make it him spin along with him. Someone linked it. Uh

151:00 Man, somebody linked it turning into clippy. Here we go. Here we go. Hold on

151:05 If you tap on it a bunch of times and

151:10 Come on there clippy Which immediately looks so much cooler. Can we just have clippy? Can I just say that?

151:16 Just instantaneously looks so much cooler

151:21 Unique username says oh, I've seen this rolled out to me definitely designed by committee zero character

151:26 Oh, I'm sure that's been that's been really

151:30 um I shouldn't say eye-opening because I've noticed it before

151:36 But being in japan and china recently like mascots are so much more of a thing here still

151:42 Remember when mascots were everywhere. Remember when mr. Clean was like

151:47 More than just a a picture on the the bottle actually they might still use mr. Clean

151:52 Mr. Steel your girl man. They probably do do the chat

151:57 Dude everything has an ascot here and I kind of love it. I love it

152:05 All right, um, I did like that in japan too I would say that's very cool

152:12 Apparently mr. Clean is still in the commercials and his CGI now. I just haven't seen a tv commercial in

152:17 Yeah, I'm not surprised. All right. What's this Linus?

152:22 Search picture from Linus for wanshield last week. I I think this is this is

152:30 Probably safe to just

152:33 Screen oh hold on hold on. I'm gonna double check and sanitize for you

152:38 No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. I need to see the Uh

152:47 Okay, uh, yeah, let can you just cut out the um the the the start menu part

152:55 Because this is this is notes from the fab tour that I was that I was recently on so I've got some cool content

153:03 Yes, there you go. Nice. What I'm doing what I'm doing overseas. Wait, what the heck?

153:11 Don't don't don't don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. There you go. Just don't uncrop it. I guess

153:15 That looks safe to me. Don't uncrop it. I'm gonna share screen. It looks it looks like it's uh been solved

153:20 Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll tell the people what I'm doing here later

153:26 What? Okay, anyway, there you go

153:32 Virus replace replace the paint logo with the

153:37 Last week remember I was talking about Windows search being a giant piece of garbage

153:44 And then I couldn't I couldn't replicate it

153:47 On stream and this time you typed in pin and it came up with paint

153:52 Dude was there something changing my pin For five six seven eight changing my pin. Which is what I was trying to do is the eighth

154:03 result The eighth result luke

154:11 Now I understand what they're trying to see what they're trying to do it's a typo thing the next time I did it

154:16 The next time I did it after I clicked pin and like after I clicked that eighth result

154:23 And then I tried to replicate this again

154:26 It searched for pin. Yeah, so it's using user behavior

154:31 but This shouldn't be the default. This is almost a brand new Windows install

154:37 Because that's why I was trying to set up the pin because I I inherited this machine from someone who was working on like

154:42 Labs testing for it or something like that so like Like this is not based on user behavior because they wouldn't have been using paint or pin

154:51 P i n And it didn't just like go here for a second and then and then like flip over

154:56 You know how it'll do that sometimes where it's like it just hasn't caught up and it's changing

155:00 No, I typed p i n in search and it's like do you mean paint?

155:06 Do you mean Pinterest do you mean?

155:10 Lots of slots casino games

155:14 Even command props. What are you talking about?

155:18 cash frenzy I

155:27 What is that why are cash frenzy and lots of slots casino games?

155:35 Above set up a pin

155:38 Why is anything from the store Above a relatively close match from your apps or settings or files

155:46 Just saying it's crazy

155:50 And like look at all the wasted space on the right this gigantic

155:58 Paint icon in just a void of emptiness if you want to have a bunch of ads put it there

156:07 Don't put it anywhere It's actually unacceptable anywhere

156:12 And that's fine. That's a completely valid take and I agree

156:16 But if you're going to have them, which they clearly are

156:21 Don't put them in the search results

156:25 Put cash frenzy somewhere else

156:28 And yes guys, I am aware of open shell. I'm aware but I

156:33 I genuinely Like to use Windows in its in its stock form. Yeah, we're trying to correct the stock experience

156:40 Which is the experience that the incredibly vast majority will have which is the problem

156:45 That thing he said And we need to experience it in order to feel the righteous fury that we do right now. Yes

156:55 It's important to experience it in that way It's also important that you as a power user don't have to that is cool. I appreciate that that is awesome

157:04 Um, but we need to not so that yeah

157:07 Everything that he said

157:10 Okay The bionic eye we're kind of getting there. We could maybe do the full plane announcements now

157:17 I think that'd be fine. Sure. Whatever you want All right. Oh wait. Was I going to tease what I'm doing here?

157:23 What are you doing there? What am I doing here?

157:27 Do you know What oh like in the country. Yeah, I do. Yeah, go for it. Tease it. Yeah, do it. That isn't the full plane announcements

157:36 But just do it I I oh it's in Floatplane announcements. It is is is

157:42 Not Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Uh, so I was in japan

157:47 For three days doing one of the coolest factory tours that I have ever done

157:54 This has been in the works for many months. I'm pretty jelly. And it will

157:58 It will probably be in the works for more months yet. Um, I there's certain things that we shot that I am

158:07 Hoping are gonna make their way through the approvals process

158:10 It it got all the way to the c-o-o apparently some of the stuff that we wanted to see

158:16 um But we were in kyoksia's

158:22 cutting edge fab

158:25 and We saw some stuff

158:28 We filmed some stuff We are working on a video. They actually they actually sponsored the video. So it is very much they are

158:37 This is actually a little bit of like 4d chess here

158:42 Doing these factory tours in a sponsored capacity is actually a powerful motivator for the brands to

158:50 Open up more and find a way when it comes to

158:55 disclosing all the stuff I operate in exactly the same way that I would for a normal facility tour

159:04 Except that I will have like like I do. I'll have my chunks where we kind of

159:09 You know suck off the brand a little bit to make sure we get some talking points in there

159:14 But in terms of the actual like body of the content

159:17 Um, like I'll include stuff that I wouldn't normally care about, you know, like found it in this year

159:24 But you guys don't care. You want to see a cutting edge fab, you know what I'm saying?

159:27 But I I got but I worked that in I go found it in this year. Whatever, right?

159:32 because That's how you get that's how you get into these places

159:36 um You just got it. You got to get on your knees a little bit. That's all I'm saying and

159:44 Guys It was absolutely flipping incredible like

159:50 Have you ever seen luke? Like I think fundamentally you understand the concept of like die stacking, right?

159:59 Okay, but have you ever actually seen them? No stacked

160:04 And wired together. No, did you even know

160:09 that they use Wire no because the second you said wired together. I was like

160:16 I see I assume that it'd be like some kind of through silicon something

160:21 Um, but no no the the dies are manufactured and then they're stacked

160:27 In a staircase structure So that one edge is exposed on all of them and then they are wired down to the substrate individually

160:36 It blew my flipping mind luke. That's pretty wild

160:41 It blew my flipping mind. Yeah, like I just yeah wire bonding. Thank you

160:45 Bachelor gun. I had just never thought about it

160:50 Fundamentally understood the concept of die stacking. Yeah

160:54 But I just never really like Never looked at a at a microscope picture of it never looked at the machinery that does it

161:02 The the the gold wire was so thin that you could barely see it hanging down

161:08 Dude wire bonding is flipping wild

161:11 um Anyway, so so making these sponsored is a great way to get the brand

161:18 Just as invested as I am in getting the video over the line

161:23 um Like we went through this with uh with Intel back in the day where there there was like what a three month two month

161:30 Three month gap between me doing the tour

161:33 And us releasing the video Yeah As it made its way through all the approvals and all the the challenges that go on with showing some of the most

161:39 Secretive and secure facilities on earth, right? And so um

161:44 I have no doubt and it's nothing against Intel. It's nothing against kiyoksia. These are these are big secrets

161:51 And these are very important You know details that need to be worked out. So I have no doubt that it's going to take some time

161:57 But I also have no doubt that we are going to get this video out there for you guys and you're going to absolutely have your minds

162:04 Flipping blown. I'm so excited um

162:07 And and yeah, this is this is the best system that we've kind of found

162:12 For doing these facility tours and getting everyone aligned on our goal of making the best possible most comprehensive

162:19 Possible video because I'll like I'll turn it around on the brand when

162:24 Probably being too open right now because if anyone watches this they're going to recognize my strats, right?

162:29 But I'll like I'll turn it around on the brand when we're working on the approval to see something

162:33 I actually pulled this move yesterday with a different brand

162:36 Um, where they basically go. Well, we can't show that and I go. Well, why am I here then?

162:41 What did you pay me for? To to show they're like, well, that's too cutting edge. That's too. That's too secret and I'm basically like

162:51 Right, but the whole point of this like let's go back to the brief, right?

162:55 The whole point of this was you guys wanted to show off your cutting edge technology

163:00 So why are you taking the cuttingest edgest of it and you're telling me?

163:04 I can't shoot it in the I can't put it in the video. This doesn't make any sense. We need to escalate this right now like

163:11 Help me help you tell the story the best that that you can see you're you're smiling because you've probably heard me do it

163:18 I've done it myself too But I I distinctly remember because the the first experiences of this for me

163:24 Which they might have been for you. I'm not sure

163:27 um Was cherry and then sennheiser

163:31 Uh-huh, and I remember kind of the same man. Yeah, I remember learning that there and then having to reapply it over and over again

163:38 Um, because it's always the same and like I get where they're coming from, but they're wrong

163:44 Yes, like I remember sennheiser specifically didn't want us to show

163:48 The failed bins for their drivers

163:51 We were like no this shows that like You care that the product is going to be good

163:57 And work so it's going to show up appropriately that matters and is going to resonate with the audience

164:02 They're like no, but it looks bad because we like didn't do it perfectly every time. We're like that. No, that's

164:08 Come on. That's not the point. I actually told that story yesterday. Yeah, I'm no surprise

164:13 No, I told that story a few days ago. I told that story a few days ago

164:17 Um, I had to I had to tell a different story yesterday

164:20 But it is their real stories based on our very real experiences

164:24 And and the thing that I always remind these brands is

164:28 you guys Booked us you guys booked us based on the factory tours you saw

164:36 You wanted us to tell your story the way we tell the story

164:41 Where we go in and we get into the grit and we talk about the real processes

164:46 That are involved in building your products We help people appreciate the challenges that go into building these things that go into creating the technology that we all love

164:56 Your you brought me here. You paid good money for me to be here because you saw that

165:02 Well, guess what when I made those videos I went through all the same

165:07 Stuff that we're talking about right now That video wouldn't get made if I wasn't having the same battles then that I'm having it with you right now

165:16 I need to film this step. It's it's literally every time too. Like it's it's it's quite literally every single time

165:23 Yeah, and so i'm not singling anybody out because I totally understand it. It's everyone. I mean this is uh

165:29 uh, this is uh

165:34 It makes sense Like this is your business. This is your livelihood. Yeah

165:39 This is that's what you're protecting right like the stakes are huge

165:44 I get it

165:47 It's like it's like a factory tour watching someone jump off a diving board and do a really cool dive

165:52 You're like, I want to do that and then you get up to the diving board and you're like

165:56 And then Linus has to convince you to jump and then it's fine

165:59 Yeah, and then you do it and then you know the viewers love it

166:03 Yeah, and and at the end of the day I mean and this is one of the ones that I kind of I have to go through this one every time too, right

166:09 It's like uh, especially when it comes to like, um

166:12 Like blurring logos on machinery is always a funny one to me because i'm like

166:17 Brother, you know, that's uh, that's uh, that's a widget metron, right?

166:23 the the people on earth who even

166:26 Know what a widget metron who have even heard of the company whose brand you're covering up

166:32 Can recognize that machine from its profile and the positioning of the dials anyway

166:36 And the people who don't know what that brand is are not going to build a competing semiconductor fab

166:42 So what are we even talking about here?

166:46 Yep And that's that wouldn't be necessarily applicable to like a to like a semiconductor machine because there's a high level of like

166:53 Customized customization that goes on in them, but for certain things

166:56 Um, I I did have to have this conversation very recently

167:00 Around something that was more of like a piece of scientific equipment where it is an off-the-shelf thing

167:06 And it's just like well, it's a trade secret who makes that i'm like bro

167:10 In the scientific community where they know what these things are

167:14 they're How many people even make those things for one thing and then

167:20 How hard would it be to go? Okay? Yeah, it's that one from the product catalog. You're not you're not hiding anything from anybody

167:28 um from anybody who

167:32 Would be able to do anything with the knowledge You're hiding it from people who wouldn't be able

167:37 To do anything with the knowledge that you would be arming them with by telling them the manufacturer of this of this piece of

167:43 scientific equipment And and and like another funny one is like, you know guys

167:52 People talk And and it's not me. It's not me talking the industry is so

167:59 Inbred people move around between companies all the time

168:02 Like if you imagine for a second and i'm going to use an example that like isn't a real one

168:06 So i'm not calling anybody out here, but like if you imagine for a second your special

168:12 You know idea for a bracket to cable manage a tube

168:15 Is like not in everybody else's fab that they're also keeping super secret from you. You got to be kidding yourself

168:22 Like it's i'm sorry It like it's it's the basic stuff like that like the actual the actual details

168:28 You know the proprietary chemical mixtures and stuff like that totally understand. Yeah, don't tell me that

168:33 I don't even want to know that I don't want to be armed with knowledge that could be so damaging to your business. Yeah

168:40 But some of the some of the little details like the way we position that warning label. It's like bro

168:47 Come on, man. You got to be kidding me right now And and the funny thing is a lot of the time it's it's not even on them

168:55 Like it's not kiyoksia's fault some of the things that you know, they need to get legal approval for sometimes

169:00 It's their partners. Yeah, it's their partners being totally irrational

169:04 It's like you're you're not allowed to disclose that we use a you know a hex head on our bolts to secure this piece of equipment

169:10 To the floor there were details and i'm not throwing them under the bus like genuinely

169:14 Uh, I think they were just doing exactly what they needed to do On the Intel tour. There was details that we were not allowed to share about the tour that we did

169:24 Because of the brand partners that they were working with

169:28 And then lucas found videos from those brand partners on youtube that had those details in them

169:36 And we're just like wait what? Like what are you talking about?

169:42 Oh man, oh well And and it's just you know, I don't know PR people are gonna PR

169:49 Yeah, and and it's easier to say no Yep, so I totally get that it's it's lower friction internally. Nobody ever got fired for saying no, you can't disclose that

170:01 Right, yeah, but you know, we don't achieve anything that way right and so

170:07 And and I'm just and and so I just I want to take a moment here after my ranting, right?

170:13 To appreciate the companies that try

170:17 That that try to open up

170:20 The doors and and and give us this insight into into what they're doing like I I was I'm hugely respectful even though

170:28 it's pulling teeth every time I

170:31 I have enormous respect for companies like kiyoksia and Intel and cherry and anyone else that we kind of

170:38 Named and didn't shame. We're not shaming them here

170:42 For trying to do this in the best way that they possibly can it's super cool

170:47 And it's something that otherwise just small hands full of people on earth would ever get a chance to see and experience and

170:56 You know as someone who just believes in the sharing of knowledge and education

171:02 I appreciate that they are they're trying to to do better

171:06 So I it's super cool, and I'm really excited for you guys to see that facility tour

171:12 I was I was blown away by yesterday. So yesterday was high since

171:20 When I When we got the invite

171:25 And I was like, okay, but like is it like a panel fab? Do you guys do your own like panel technology?

171:31 And they're like, no, it's not panels. It's just like the the tv

171:36 itself I was like, uh, is that going to be that interesting?

171:41 Luke Don't miss this video

171:45 High sense factory tour. There were a couple things that unfortunately

171:49 No matter how hard I pushed I wasn't able to get them to show you and one of them is not going to sound that cool

171:58 Um, it basically it's like in real time

172:02 A computer Animation with like kind of transparency and stuff of the entire production line

172:08 I'm allowed to describe it, but I I wasn't allowed to shoot it

172:12 um That shows all the machines all the automations

172:18 on This over 70 automated

172:22 Factory line that takes the tv from constituent parts just from the screws and in cables

172:28 And panel and back housing and glue like all of all of the constituent parts and assembles them had them all operating in real time

172:36 With various efficiencies and and operational telemetry telemetric data

172:41 Um, so that they can proactively perform maintenance

172:46 So cool and that that kind of like factory automation

172:49 Yeah That's really cool kit stuff is is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily expect

172:54 Some of these more just like nuts and bolts hardware to care about

172:57 But it was like mind blowing a lot of the stuff that's it's incredibly important to them because I have to keep margins down, right?

173:05 Up but yes Yeah that one and and

173:10 And efficiency was such a major story

173:13 They had this machine that automated like a glue application step that they were boasting saved them 9% on glue

173:21 And I was like

173:25 Right That's gonna be a lot you guys are operating. Yeah at the volume you guys are operating at even if it's a dollar worth of glue

173:33 That's nine cents a unit just like that boom that machine pays for itself

173:39 Dude the level The level of automation on this thing. Oh pc master raze says

173:45 How the heck is An automated line profitable for a specific model of display

173:51 You're gonna love this video dude. It really puts in perspective

173:55 The volume of consumer electronics

173:59 That are being shipped because yes the entire line that we are watching

174:04 Running the way that it is Is one model of tv that's being produced right now

174:09 um And and the automation of it is absolutely

174:14 Incredible like it wasn't that long ago that I was here in china

174:19 Touring the one plus factory and them telling me yes screws are still too hard

174:25 Dude almost nothing is too hard now like it's 70 percent now 71 percent now

174:31 And there were multiple steps that still had humans working on them that they were like yeah, and we are in active development

174:39 automating this as well and

174:44 Not only does it save cost, but they're like yeah, the quality is dramatically better

174:49 um Like like markedly better. It's it's gonna be it's gonna be a pretty it's gonna be a pretty cool video

174:58 Whatever something else I was gonna say, but oh, yeah, right, right, right. Yeah. Mew. Mew actually nailed it

175:04 So we finally find out how tv's are getting cheaper

175:07 Yeah Like we're you're gonna get to see

175:11 How deep a company like high sense is digging to find the savings

175:17 To make tv's like the one of the only categories of consumer product right now

175:24 That is seemingly inflation proof somehow

175:27 You guys will get to see it and it will blow your flipping mind

175:35 That's I'm I'm genuinely quite excited. I love the like man

175:41 I wish how it's made was still a thing and I know there's like some

175:45 Sort of derivatives, but there was there was something pure about how it's made that was just so great

175:50 But I I love seeing that type of stuff. I'm very into it. Oh, I was using a um led factory

175:56 Kind of how it's made type thing. No music. No talking

176:00 Um as as test audio for the today's show. Oh really? There's like so much cool stuff on youtube

176:05 That's like even better than how it's made and a lot of it comes out of these hyper automated factories. It's super awesome

176:12 Maybe I just need to go find those Yeah, it's a different algorithm

176:17 One battle speaking of automation that I had to have with high sense was uh showing the human steps

176:23 They didn't want to show the human steps and I was like bra

176:27 No, we're showing the human steps because this video is

176:31 It's not how it's made the the tm, but it's it's how it's made we want to

176:36 We can't I can't walk into I can't do the intro of this video say it's 71% automated and then not show a single human

176:42 I'm so much more interested if I see the human steps too because I

176:46 I know that the people there are heavily incentivized to automate things

176:50 So then then I'm trying to think and go okay

176:54 How would they automate this still remaining step? And why is it so difficult because if they're making a whole thing to save 9% of glue

177:02 Then they they clearly would love to but it's it's so difficult. So like it's it's that makes it so much more interesting

177:09 Yeah, pc master raze says didn't turn up for 71% of a tv and that's exactly like that's exactly the line that

177:17 That I'll that I'll pull with these guys. It's like I wouldn't have flown here

177:21 If you weren't going to show me the whole thing you got to understand we're we're doing the whole thing

177:26 And you just you got to be you got to be firm because at the end of the day

177:30 It's it's for their own good. But but I understand, you know, I understand why it's so tough

177:35 And it's just it's part of the content creation process, man. It's just part of uh

177:41 It's part of learning how to work together learning how to move forward and again massive

177:45 Massive credit to everyone we're working with on this trip. So we hit kiyoksia already

177:50 We hit high sense already yesterday, and then we're going to huawei in a couple of days

177:55 And um, actually luke you might be kind of into the lab that we're going to there

178:01 I was not a hundred percent sold on it because I know that like health tech is not always what resonates the most with our audience

178:09 But dude the health tech lab they have

178:12 I don't even care if it gets like 300 000 views or whatever. I just wanted to see it

178:17 Um, they have like in like a like an they have like an in-place swimming pool

178:22 They have a bike track apparently that like goes around their facility like they they have to do the test

178:31 I haven't gone yet, but i'm gonna oh that's so cool

178:34 Yeah, so i'm gonna actually like get hooked up

178:38 Dude benchmarking Linus Yeah, use the health lab that they use to like create the sensors for like smart wearables and stuff like it's gonna be

178:47 I'm really excited I'm so excited dude. It's gonna be awesome in

178:53 I was gonna make an insolviate russia joke, but

178:57 Yeah, in in somewhere, uh benchmark benchmarks you or something. Yeah, anyways, exactly

179:05 Um, okay Can't wait. Okay, what were we supposed to be doing?

179:10 Uh, hey, whoa, uh, if you want if you don't want spoilers because you're you're tivoing the game or whatever then don't um

179:17 Don't listen to me for the next uh five seconds, but um, hey jay's win

179:23 Game one. Let's go. Oh, hey Nice. Yeah, I've actually got a merch message about that. Maybe we

179:30 Do that now Sure, uh, hello dll game one of the world series just started any baseball fans here

179:37 Also, this new t-shirt design is incredible. Please continue with designs like this

179:43 Um

179:47 I

179:51 The last time I followed baseball for real john olerude played for the blue jays

179:57 Um, and ken griffy jr. Was like the league superstar

180:02 um I have a peripheral interest in

180:06 most major sports enough to kind of know who

180:10 You know, the people are I know the rules of baseball pretty well. I played baseball as a kid

180:15 But I haven't really like followed followed

180:18 Since the last time the jays were contenders. They're only team. Yeah, canada is big bandwagoning right now most

180:26 I know almost no canadians that watch or care about baseball pretty much at all

180:31 Some people like like Linus said

180:35 Might know some of the players names and like we'll we'll watch the game here or there if there's nothing else really on

180:40 And I'm sure people from like the local city care

180:43 Uh, but most of canada is not that tuned in except for

180:47 For sure right now Like everybody is in

180:52 Which is fun. Whatever sometimes it's neat to jump on a bandwagon. It is what it is

180:56 You know what and I think it's I think it's good. I think it's good for I think it's good for the sport too because probably like think about it

181:03 They've been calling this the world series for all this time

181:07 And there's only one team that's not from that's not from america

181:11 So I think it makes sense that you have to have a team from another country when it every once in a while

181:16 Otherwise, you're just gonna have to change the name Yeah

181:19 Well, no, they're just they would just need to compete. They wouldn't have to win. They just need to compete

181:24 I guess that's true. Well for a long time. They didn't compete and now they are

181:27 So I know I'm no it looks like fun. I gotta say baseball is probably my favorite sport to watch

181:33 I'm maybe not favorite, but among it's like very high. I don't like watching. I can't watch a baseball game

181:38 It's too long and there's too much downtime for me to

181:42 To like be focused on it But highlights. I love baseball highlights. It's like one of my favorite sports to just binge highlights of because

181:53 Some of them are great. It feels like The athleticism like they're they are some because of the the pay in baseball like, uh, oh man

182:00 What's his name? Shohei got like a 700 million dollar contract or whatever it was. That's wild

182:05 By the way, that guy just looks like if you genetically engineered like Chad human

182:12 Yeah wild anyway, the point is

182:15 These are some of the best athletes in the world because

182:18 The the money's there, right? So if you are if you are literally a world-class athlete that could play any game you want baseball would be a super

182:27 high candidate But they spend most of the time

182:31 standing or like Sitting in a dugout. So when they do move, man

182:39 Wow, everything. My god, it's it's easy to look at a baseball game in progress

182:44 Where 95 of the players are literally not doing anything and go like, you know, this is boring

182:50 You know any any fat white dude could do this, you know, why why don't why why can't my uncle just my uncle could have

182:56 thrown a better pitch than that, you know, it's easy to to couch

183:00 You know What what what what what what are they called? Just like couch warrior or whatever, right? But then

183:07 The things they do

183:11 Damn Incredible love it

183:14 Love it. Okay. Speaking of loving the things that they do. Let's do armchair quarterback. That's the one

183:20 Let's do the full point announcement. Dan. Do you have the dock? I do. I don't understand this at all

183:25 I've read it like four times and I think Either ai did this or sammy just derped but I believe you have to guess the prompt

183:34 Not me though Linus made right, but then how is it a competition? I don't know

183:41 If I can guess it I win and if I can't guess it you win, but there's like points and stuff

183:49 I don't know. I don't know what we're doing Whatever anyways, riley and I as in me directly tried out the new sora 2 app and discovered just ai content

183:59 And discovered just ai content affecting social media on tuesday

184:04 The video is now out, but I thought we'd play a fun game with Linus

184:09 You're going to watch the video and guess the prompt Dan will decide if you're close enough for the point the winner bragging rights as in every competition

184:18 Dan, please play video one. Okay. It's just a second. I'm trying to keep these lanes clear. Thank you

184:23 Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic, but it's for a reason our neighborhoods only public badminton courts are about to get turned into a parking lot

184:29 These games build What do you think the prompt was supposed to guess the prompt? Yeah, I mean, okay

184:42 Okay, protester protester

184:48 Protester at rally To save our communities badminton courts get support from mark cuban

184:56 I will say I mean pretty pretty close actually. Yeah. I mean, I would give that to him

185:01 I would also give that to him if you'll give him a ding I will I will I will also say I think like pretty much every time the person is named

185:10 I would still give that to you, but pretty much every time we tried to name the person

185:15 Oh This time I will say it gave us a like we can't recreate them

185:21 Uh, so I just Reference like effectively who they were so it could guess it pretty easily

185:25 But the the person is supposed to be specific. You knew mark cuban

185:29 That one was made. Oh, who was the okay. Can I see the other one? I didn't notice the other one was a person

185:33 Was it sample it again? Mm-hmm Just a second. I'm trying to think you'll get this. Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic

185:40 But it's for a reason our neighborhood's only public badminton courts. No, I don't know who that is

185:44 I didn't think you would because that was supposed to be you Um, I originally typed oh line of Sebastian and then it was like we can't do that

185:52 We can't recreate that person. So I said the main host from Linus media group

185:56 Um And it it spat out that

186:00 Okay, so question for you And we're gonna go off topic a little bit here. I think sure but it's sort of on topic. Yeah

186:07 Because you have to opt in as an influencer. Yeah to have your your yourself should I opt in? No

186:14 I don't know. I want to I want to be clear. I I haven't opted in

186:18 Do you want the argument? Is that what you said? I want to have the conversation

186:22 Because some people are right. Yeah, we have some of them in here. We

186:26 I won't name them. I almost just did. I mean mark cuban is one though

186:30 Um, and and you kind of like get something like if you notice Dan if you go to the end of that clip

186:35 Uh, if you can bring it back up and go to the go to like the very end. Yeah

186:39 He got that included. So there's like a little url

186:43 I I I don't know if it's If it's a condition or or what I played again. I couldn't pause it on it. Sure

186:53 Thank you. Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic, but it's for a reason our neighborhoods only

186:57 public badminton courts It's pretty quick

187:02 Right there. Yeah, right there. Got it. So that's part of his thing

187:07 And as far as my understanding goes you can get like a thing that comes along with your likeness and that's his thing

187:14 Um, other people have other things you could do like LTT Store

187:18 Maybe right, but I mean we just got him protesting for badminton courts. So you might you people could make you do things

187:25 So you don't necessarily want to do Do you want to promote people doing that because like when we were doing this

187:30 I didn't actually intend for him to be in that at all. I accidentally fat fingered mark Cuban

187:35 Yeah, I accidentally fat fingered his there's like tags above the input field

187:40 And I was trying to do something else and I accidentally bumped it and then when we watched the video and he was in it

187:44 We were like what and then we looked back at the prompt and we saw that he was tagged in it

187:47 Um, so it's like it promotes you using

187:52 These people that have given their likeness over to the app Um, that's pretty wild. I just I think especially right now

187:59 Until we get better things figured out over like the laws around likeness and stuff. It's better to just

188:06 Hold on to it for now. Uh, well see me. I feel like this is quite

188:12 Short-sighted. I mean, I'm not gonna claim to have a better long-term vision than mark Cuban. He's obviously been very successful

188:19 um Let's let's hear. Let's finish watching some of these before you, uh, keep commenting. Let's let me let me just finish with this one

188:27 But but I feel like I feel like right now the strongest argument that I could come up with

188:35 For allowing it would be it's pretty obvious that it's still fake. So it doesn't really matter

188:42 I don't think anyone's hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna get there. Like I I don't think it

188:46 I don't think anyone would actually think that you know, Linus is promoting

188:53 Cat and dog breeding, you know, let's let's let's go with like an you know, an end times thing

188:58 The cats are mating with the dogs, you know, like I no one would actually think that so

189:03 So maybe maybe it doesn't matter and all publicity is good publicity publicity

189:07 that's The best argument that I could think of and then that coupled with well

189:14 People are gonna make it anyway. So I might as well. I might as well

189:20 Huh, I might as well have a hand in controlling

189:24 My destiny that people are gonna do this anyway store out there or whatever

189:29 Not even that I just mean like

189:34 Like I might as well it's better to be complicit in your own

189:38 Being used then see then fighting it and no, no, no, no, I'm not saying these are good arguments

189:44 I'm saying these are probably the best. I hear you devil's advocate arguments that I could come up with

189:50 Um, but the problem is that both of them are kind of easy to I think it's just a counter, right?

189:55 I think it's just relevance. I think you just cultural relevance is the biggest argument. I think you want your

190:02 likeness To be on that scrollable thing

190:07 Right on top of the prompt all the time being relevant to everyone

190:11 um, and like the One of the paul brothers or maybe both of them were on there

190:17 um, clearly Mr. Cuban some other people like there's

190:22 I think they're trying to stay in the zeitgeist that being said in my opinion

190:25 I don't it doesn't really feel like that many people using the app. I noticed sam altman has 60 000 followers

190:31 and a Video a sora video that went omega viral on twitter and ended up making someone over a grand in like twitter prime money or whatever that is

190:42 um, yeah Had like a few hundred likes on sora. I don't think people actually care

190:49 It's just a garbage slop app that no one really uses. It's just morbid curiosity and then they go away

190:53 But anyways, should we do number two?

190:57 um PC master rays here says yeah, but like imagine your brand being associated with some fdap ai video and

191:06 I I feel like we're headed into

191:10 I feel like we're headed into a level of

191:14 Like disconnection from what we're seeing

191:18 And assumption of things not being real

191:21 Absolutely, I don't know if like brand association is even going to be a thing anymore. I don't think if I don't know if it's going to matter

191:27 I think if everyone just assumes that everything's fake. Japan will care. Yeah, it's gonna go the way the keyboards

191:35 It'll go a lot faster than keyboards. All right. All right. Let's do the second one. I'm sorry

191:38 I'm just I just thought this was it. I thought this was an interesting conversation. All right. So my hilarious Dan killed

191:44 Dan killed sir um right here

191:49 No, I mean but I can't anymore so he might have to go Oh, okay

191:54 a dead Ability to can is uh is no more. Yeah, you can stay right there. Okay. Uh the next one so

192:02 Yeah, apparently he said so people can volunteer their likeness Uh, and there are some creators on here if you want to look but I fat fingered mark cuban, which is a fun accident

192:10 That's my little prompt there and this one says lioness if you get this right that'd be amazing because it's not what you think

192:18 Okay Sammy are you are you ready?

192:22 Yeah, play it. Let's see

192:27 Mmm, that's so good perfect amount of sauce cheers to whoever made this

192:34 I will say I was pretty impressed at how

192:37 Good that one was actually not not at doing what the prompt said but just the the video itself was like surprisingly good

192:44 I think they've really trained on will smith. Yeah, they've really trained on spaghetti. No, no, that was my guess. Oh, no

192:52 Okay, because like a kind of nerdy white guy compared to like a cool less white guy

192:59 Seems like the opposite of will smith. Who do you think that the nerdy white guy is?

193:04 Oh, can I see do you want to play it again? Sure? Yeah, that slurp was unsettling if you can mute the audio that'd be great

193:09 Otherwise, it's turn it up

193:13 Why would you do that? Why would you why would you do that?

193:16 It's not a real slur. It looks like a cross it looks like a cross between me and austin evans

193:21 Watch it again. Watch it again. Play it again. Okay, play it again

193:32 Okay, sorry. I okay. I actually need him to listen to it, but not the slurp. So can you crank just when he's talking?

193:37 Yeah, I can try. Okay. Just just play the slip. I don't care. I'm over it

193:43 Mmm, that's so good perfect amount of sauce cheers to whoever made this

193:47 Oh Okay, so it's supposed to be my voice. I guess

193:52 Okay What if I told you it's not supposed to be your voice but everyone immediately flagged it is supposed to be your voice and just

194:00 Kind of done poorly, but it's not it's also not supposed to be you

194:05 Who do you think it is?

194:08 I don't know someone's name was put in and your voice came out of it

194:14 Because I thought this one's kind of fascinating This blew my mind. It's another dude. I have I have no way of guessing this

194:23 So the prompt was do I go for it? Yeah, go for it. Do you think he got it? I don't

194:30 The prompt was luke lafrenier eating spaghetti

194:35 And my voice came out your voice came out

194:38 So I'll read the prompt because this was this was my theory, but I'll read the prompt the theory of why it sounded like Linus is every time

194:45 Uh, every time I'm googling you appear

194:48 Sammy what what did you write every time?

194:51 Sammy googles luke If you google me you show up. There you go

194:59 I'm gonna do this right now

195:06 Clafrenier I mean sort of the first four hits are your twitter profile your linkedin

195:13 Your youtube and your instagram people also search for you're always number one

195:18 um The like second photo that I see is you and me

195:22 Failfist bumping from forever ago. What okay. My search does not find I switched over to images

195:30 and it is literally I got

195:34 shoot okay, this is This is

195:39 Is this joel? Yeah It's it's my twitter, but it's joel

195:44 Yeah, I know what picture you're talking about. I have joel before I have you my entire friend

195:50 Not only does not contain any pictures of me, but it doesn't even contain any pictures of you and me

195:56 What the heck that's weird not one. I'm gonna send I'm gonna send this to you

196:01 I'm gonna send this to you right now because I feel like that's strange I feel like I'm saying a thing that people are okay

196:05 Well, I've had this experience before where when I when I google myself for whatever reason

196:11 It's pretty common that that you or you know

196:15 Linus media group or LTT or something like that comes up, right?

196:19 So I think it it tried to grab Whatever estimation it could have my voice

196:24 But it had so much more training of your voice

196:28 That it just made your voice and it doesn't have very good training of what I look like

196:32 So it's just generic white dude with a beard

196:39 Yeah, dude even my second page only has me on it twice and in both cases I am with you

196:47 In one case I have my head on your butt. Oh, no, that's what I mean. That's what I mean

196:51 Like we we would be together. I don't I don't mean it just comes up with just you

196:56 So this is the first one you sent Where is it yeah, yeah that Joel one comes up all the time for me

197:05 That's a clean result. That is actually

197:08 And mine was the same. I've done it before where where you definitely came up weird

197:12 Maybe something was going on at that time and then this is the second one

197:18 Oh, wow, like we've got you and me. I think that's the

197:22 Scrapyard Wars fist bump or something over on the right there. I forget the context of that

197:27 I forget I remember that photo, but I don't I I don't remember why

197:32 I think it was specifically something to do with way and show, but I don't remember what for

197:39 It's a that's I mean that's that's a decade ago. So who knows

197:42 Um, okay prompt number three. Are you ready?

197:47 The Sammy's writing says final prompt winner takes all so focus up which is true

197:52 He had no idea of knowing he had no way of knowing that would be true

197:55 But that is true because it's it's tied so far, I guess

197:59 So yeah Dan play it Hey, that's my homework. You just ate it. So that's why I don't have the paper my laptop literally ate it last night

198:07 Your laptop ate it. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I filmed it teeth and everything. That's the first

198:13 Okay, so I justine is involved. Yeah

198:17 So, yeah, uh, you have to try to guess the yeah, there you go. Why is the pig there?

198:22 Okay, I want to see it one more time. Okay I think I can preemptively explain that's my homework. You just ate it. So that's why I don't have the paper

198:29 My laptop literally ate it last night. Your laptop ate it. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I filmed it teeth and everything

198:35 Actually, no, I won't explain the pig

198:39 Okay, so obviously Um, the the prompt is going to involve involve the student

198:46 Um Explaining to their teacher that their laptop ate their homework

198:51 Their teacher is I justine. So, okay. Okay student

198:58 Students

199:03 Students laptop eats their homework

199:07 They

199:10 I don't know. I don't care

199:13 You got it. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the dopamine for that one. Yeah. I mean, I think you got it

199:19 Make a realistic depiction of a computer eating a students and then in brackets carter pc's homework

199:26 The student then needs to explain to their teacher. I justine

199:31 I think there was more text than that, but it just ends there That's carter pc's a shorts creator. You don't watch short stuff all good

199:37 And then I justine which you guessed makes sense They both have their likeness in the app and it recreated both of them

199:44 Quite well just like it recreated mark Cuban quite well

199:48 Um, how did the pig figure into it? We're pretty sure that that is I justine's

199:55 Inclusion thing Ah, you know how mark Cuban had the the link we're pretty sure it's it's her inclusion thing

200:03 I don't know what to call that. Um

200:06 But I I think she she has one of those she does have a pig. Yeah, she has a pig

200:11 Um, and it's it and it only shows up when she's on screen

200:14 It doesn't show up when carter's on screen. So it like it it's it's probably that that's what that's what our speculation is

200:20 um Yeah, we did more prompts

200:24 Some of them are hilarious In my opinion my favorite one isn't even in these three weeks ago

200:31 Uh, I made all my I made all my videos have a pig in them. Ha ha two weeks ago. Yeah, there you go

200:36 Uh, so that makes sense. I didn't I didn't know that that was like officially true. I just it made made a lot of sense

200:42 But yeah, we did a bunch of stuff. It was with Riley. I was hanging with Riley We had a fun time. There's a 40 minute video of that on LMG.gg slash flow plane. Go check that out

200:49 It's fun. We make some fun videos. We crash out about the the doom and gloom of the future. It's good stuff

200:55 Um And yeah, thoughts if I'd like vibe coded. Yeah, I mentioned that the the app felt vibe coded because the app was just so junk

201:05 There's a lot of really bad user experience flows and other

201:09 Weird stuff that happened when you try to use it. It's it's not a very good app

201:13 Um, how about some good ai news? Sure. Yeah, youtube's likeness detection tech. Yeah

201:22 launched They're rolling this out to eligible creators in the youtube partner program and the technology is designed to prevent people

201:30 From having their likeness misused by identifying and managing ai generated content

201:36 Featuring the likeness of creators such as their face and their voice

201:40 This process does require providing a photo id and a brief selfie video

201:46 But with the tool creators can view all detected videos and submit a removal request

201:52 Or they can make a copyright request and they can opt out of using the technology at any time

201:57 And youtube will stop scanning for videos 24 hours after they do so

202:02 um It's not perfect Obviously, but I've got to give google credit here for doing

202:12 Something what is the agreement it's taken too long. It's taken too long

202:16 Like mr. Beast hawking, you know Penis enlargement pills has been happening for far too long with just ai generated slop videos of jimmy and stuff like that

202:28 but this is I okay, this is something

202:33 Yeah, I um Oh, I was a big fan of this and then hearing you say it out loud raised some warning flags

202:42 You mentioned the the process requires providing a photo id and a brief

202:47 Selfie video I don't really understand why they need that. Why partner program unless this is also giving them permission to use it

202:57 well I don't know if I don't know if youtube specifically has given me reason to go that tinfoil hat

203:05 They haven't for me either, but again, why would they need it?

203:11 um

203:16 It might be easier to train off of it might be a standard duration thing or something

203:20 Yeah, I mean we're working on a deep fake thing right now for a video

203:25 That um, they the Labs team asked me like even though there's obviously lots of training data for me

203:32 Uh, the Labs team asked me to like do this and do this and like it does make it easier. Yeah

203:40 Um, are you gonna do it youtuber is like me? Oh, I'm gonna do it a hundred percent. Yeah

203:45 Yeah, no question. I mean it's it's

203:48 Something The sora thing is like a hard obvious no in my opinion this is a pretty obvious

203:54 Yes, as long as there isn't anything super freaky in the in the transit service or whatever

204:02 Um Okay, cool. Thank you youtube

204:08 Coffee table book of iconic phones, huh?

204:12 Yeah You got to carry it from there. There are no notes

204:18 Oh, okay

204:21 Hold on. Let me just bring up my notes

204:24 Okay, there you go phone arena reached out

204:29 Good lord, uh a minute ago

204:32 When when when was this uh back in

204:38 March no it must have been earlier than that hold on

204:42 Phone arena check my emails But but but but but but but but wow was it really only that long ago?

204:50 Okay, well, uh, apparently it was only

204:54 In march. Wow, they turned this around really fast. Anyway phone arena reached out because they wanted to do uh like a table book

205:01 Of like iconic phone designs. Uh, they didn't really ask for much. They just asked like, you know, hey

205:09 Oh an october of 2024 so a year ago um

205:13 They they were like, hey, here's a brief outline of what we want to do

205:17 We want to tell the story of some of the most iconic phones kind of recreate their impact

205:23 Um, we have some amazing other creators on board. Do you have some time to chat?

205:28 Um I basically said, yeah, I'm not like a huge design nerd

205:32 but I did use some of the phones that they had identified as like

205:36 I iconic and I'd love to I'd love to help, you know in some way if I can and they basically said

205:44 Yeah, if you could kind of tell us the story of the phones you selected

205:48 Um, they asked for just like short little quotes. It took me a really really embarrassingly long time to get back to them

205:55 I feel really bad about that. Sorry Yavor, um, my bad, but uh, they reached out

206:03 Earlier this month to say hey pre-orders for the book are supposed to be going live soon

206:09 and um If you want like a commission link or anything like that, then we can do that. I basically said I don't really

206:16 Uh, I don't really need the money that badly. So you guys can do you can just kind of

206:22 Do your thing. Um But I will but I'll be happy to promote it anyway

206:27 And so that's that's what we're doing. Uh there. Let me just see if I can find the link

206:33 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da, where where do I go?

206:36 Sorry, I'm trying to figure it out because I want to actually I want to actually find the link

206:40 Maybe it's just on the phone arena website here. Let's have a look

206:47 Uh iconic phones book news, maybe I'm gonna try news

206:52 Uh, I really hope oh here it is here it is here it is

206:56 Sign up to get updates and an early bird discount. Uh, I'll link it

206:59 I

207:03 Have no idea how much it costs. I don't know what all else is in it. It says it ships fall 2025

207:10 and uh, I It involves quotes and stories and insights from austin evans brandon butch

207:18 John retiger Linus tech tips max tech mr. Who's the boss super saff and jerry rig everything

207:26 Which I think I don't know. It's a pretty cool little project. I just thought it was neat. So I wanted to

207:31 Provide what little contribution I could again if you don't mind copying the link into the other spots. Um, that's it

207:37 That's pretty much all I have to say about that Hopefully it's uh, hopefully it's cool and you guys appreciate the kind of the photography and the little quotes and stuff and it's uh

207:47 Table book for people who like table books and also like phones

207:51 Uh

207:55 Speaking of liking things

207:59 Sure. Yeah, good segue. Love it. Okay. Nice. I wasn't sure if you're trying to say something or not. There's a massive delay

208:06 Yeah, the what if do you like doritos Linus?

208:10 Do I like doritos? Are you into doritos?

208:14 Probably more than I should be Do you like guns? I try not to eat them. I try not to

208:21 Oh

208:29 Okay, which one is it I can't tell do you like doritos or guns?

208:36 You clearly like one of them

208:39 That's wild dude. I mean

208:42 Ah, wow, man What a terrifying experience that would be to have because it's effectively getting swatted so there's a chance that you

208:52 Get unalived because ai mistakes your favorite snack as a firearm

209:00 Fun fact, yeah, I mean you never know when and like you never know when a trigger happy

209:06 responding agent is gonna

209:09 Somebody's gonna figure out how to visually hijack ai's

209:14 Visually trick them into thinking something's happening and make this happen as a

209:20 Form of attack. I can pretty much guarantee it

209:23 Hasn't happened yet, but it will I promise you we don't have a lot of notes here. It's just rough

209:30 Pugboy 1321 asks the real question here in Floatplane chat

209:35 Would nobody check the footage first before going in?

209:40 armed like How much time do you have? Is this a school shooting? Do you want to spend time rewinding the tape and looking for stuff?

209:52 Uh willing spy says apparently it was more on the principal pal

209:57 Um, it was flagged by ai turned away by the person in charge the principal said. Oh, no call the cops

210:05 Oh man

210:09 Cops from the wild

210:13 Oh

210:19 There's a discussion question here with no sources no topics no, uh talking points, etc. Should lg become an ad agency

210:29 Oh, uh, let's save that for later. All right not talking about that

210:33 Uh xbox wants okay fine. We can just we can just do it now Colton Colton has discussed on multiple occasions

210:41 Farming out our biz team essentially To other creators. Do you think there's a like a value in that? Yes

210:49 I know multiple that would want to join

210:54 Turns out most people don't start making youtube videos about things that they're

211:00 Extremely interested in often artistically interested in

211:03 Because they want to do business things

211:06 And they would prefer those things are just handled for them

211:11 I don't know maybe we just should then because yeah, I don't know going through processes like like factory tours for instance

211:18 It's a perfect example of something that No conventional agency

211:23 Could possibly understand but we have experience with those kind of stuff. You mentioned

211:27 not even that long ago that a uh

211:30 A different form of agency than the agency we would be making

211:34 Mentioned that we are really nice to work with because we like get it and have been doing it forever

211:38 There is a certain level of experience and expertise that we can bring to the table that some people need. Does everyone need it? No, that's fine

211:46 But there are people out there that would that would love to work with us on this and

211:51 Why deny them? It's not like we have to force anything. So here's a question for you

211:55 Here's a question for you and it's one that I don't know if it has a cut and dried answer

212:01 We have a pretty hard stance for instance on um, uh gambling ads

212:07 Right So what if we're working with a creator that doesn't have a hard stance on gambling ads and that's their that's their personal compass, right? Like I'm

212:18 I'm I'm I'm not I'm not generally

212:21 going to give people a hard time if they

212:25 Need to need to make money and You know, that's uh

212:30 That's within their sort of Bounds or whatever. I don't I don't like it

212:35 um But you know in general I'm not going to just like go on stream blasting other creators for working with that or help or working with

212:44 You know gambling or or or alcohol

212:47 Or whatever, right tobacco and alcohol like all the stuff that we kind of have our lines on, right?

212:51 um so

212:55 If that creator If if a brand reaches out to work with a creator that we represent

213:02 And they're a brand that works in a vertical that we choose not to be involved in

213:08 uh, let's go with something more I shouldn't say more socially acceptable because gambling is perfectly socially acceptable at this point these days

213:15 alcohol Like function functionally every adult that I know consumes alcohol in some form or another so

213:22 um Long range high five

213:25 Yeah, we yeah, sorry. That's I didn't mean we don't like you and me

213:29 I wasn't I wasn't going for like a thing. I just meant like Um, but we don't generally advertise that. Yeah. Yeah, we don't work with alcohol companies not not generally like we just don't and

213:40 Uh, but like I don't I don't have like a moral

213:43 objection To alcohol like I don't care other people can drink alcohol. It's just not interesting to me

213:51 and so um You know

213:54 Where's the line? Because we've made a decision as LMG

213:59 Not to profit from You know alcohol, right

214:05 But if this agency if we start up this agency

214:09 I don't think we'd be a very good agency if we started inserting our own values

214:17 um If we put our own values in between a legal transaction between two other parties, I mean, this is something we've talked about

214:25 Extensively. Yeah with like Mastercard and Visa and all those guys in my opinion and I've said this on on uh

214:32 Wanshoe like a bajillion times to be honest is

214:36 You know, there's that whole there's no ethical consumption under capitalism thing. There's also there are too many things to fight for

214:43 um and

214:46 Like I have my things that I will and won't do

214:50 Which I think makes the world better or I vote with my wallet in certain ways

214:55 But I don't necessarily expect other people to do the same And I generally assume that they have their own versions of that which might be a little bit different than mine

215:03 So you say no to gambling someone else might say no to animal products

215:09 um, yeah Yeah, I I admit I love animals and I use

215:15 Animal products and eat animals without relief and thinking about it. Yeah, so like

215:19 Say dude, I was I was at the mall last night and they had

215:24 Dog they had puppies in cages and I was like my heart was breaking

215:27 So I have my animal lines too. I I'm so glad that that's illegal in canada now. Um

215:33 Yeah, anyway, sorry, uh, but like what I'm saying is it's it's

215:39 I don't think in in I deeply respect that we set our own lines

215:44 And I expect that they would set their own lines and in this case

215:48 I don't think it's our place really to decide where their lines are for them

215:53 um That's that's how I would personally try to approach it

215:59 Um, there are potentially certain things that could be just hard nose

216:05 um

216:08 I don't know that I even want to discuss those right now But there there might be certain things where it's just like that's just actually deplorable for

216:17 Anyone at any point anytime Um, I mean we've talked about uh, we've talked about like on Floatplane for instance

216:25 You know if they're if we ever were approached by like an adult creator for instance

216:30 We have firearms creators on Floatplane and that's something that I know can be a very polarizing. Yeah, uh topic

216:38 And but it's because we're trying to be a platform, right? Like it's uh, it's a yeah

216:43 It's a different thing, but I is it like hold on a second because if we are not saying it's a different thing than the business thing

216:50 I I'm saying it's kind of the same thing as business thing. I'm saying it's a it's a different thing than us doing it ourselves

216:56 um yeah

217:00 Yeah, like it's uh, and we you and I when when when we talked about it what we basically settled on is

217:05 If it is legal in the jurisdictions of everyone involved, it's not our place to

217:12 Um to make a moral judgment on the the content of another content creator and I I think this is something that

217:21 um You know any normal company would never talk about this

217:26 On a live stream like that's the thing that I think a lot of people in the chat right now

217:31 And we're gonna get crap for it. We will get crap for this

217:35 is that If we if we decide

217:39 You know to go forward with this with you know, this sort of agency work or whatever else

217:44 Um, if we didn't talk about it today, you would never have noticed like name a single

217:50 Advertising agency that Linus media group has ever worked with

217:54 You can't because you don't know you have no way of knowing, you know that we've worked with max Borges

218:00 For instance, you just would have no way of knowing that the agency has nothing to do with the the finished product

218:08 Um that you're ultimately going to see on your screen on, you know, some other creators

218:13 Uh video right like it just it doesn't work like that

218:16 um, I just thought it was a very interesting conversation and it's something that um

218:24 You know, I was chatting with Colton about it's something that I've talked to Taryn about

218:28 It's something that I wanted to talk to you about and this kind of gives me an opportunity

218:33 in a forum like this where People can kind of see the thought process and they can they can get some insight into

218:40 How, you know, how we operate as a business and how businesses and creators operate more broadly

218:47 um

218:50 So the agency would work with us and we would have our own lines and it sounds like what you're saying is basically

218:57 um You know at the end of the day what's legal is not up to the platform to decide

219:05 Which is a position that we've advocated for

219:08 publicly, yeah multiple times and and I really do see that put your money where your mouth is to a certain degree

219:14 I see the I see the game platform um credit card processing

219:20 arguments Very similarly, but I will say that like

219:26 Here's a here's a the reason it yeah, can I be edgy for a sec?

219:30 You can be as edgy as you want. I mean, it's your uh, uh funeral, right?

219:35 What if it's biking funeral specifically what you have you have children?

219:41 What if it's uh What if you know, you know how there was like, uh

219:46 Man, what's that game? Is it weird that I'd want to be the one that hits the boat?

219:50 That guy would be trying really hard. I suspect you all would be

219:54 Which is like part of why it's so sick

219:59 Oh, anyways Sorry, sorry, I got off topic a little bit

220:03 Like it's nothing personal man. Like I don't you know, that's dope. That's like the whole point. I don't even take that negatively

220:10 That's freaking sick. I don't even think of taking that negatively to be honest until you said it's nothing personal

220:15 um Okay, so it remember raid shadow legends was like an ad for freaking everyone all the time everywhere for years

220:24 Yeah, it might even still be um What if there was like a loli game?

220:34 Are they a thousand years old? Yeah, yeah

220:37 Yeah, for sure. They're like 10,000 year old space goddesses or something

220:48 I might have to deal with this because what I'm saying is there might still be lines

220:55 But they might be pretty far out there

221:00 And like where the hell do you draw this line?

221:04 Like the first thing people started talking about in Floatplane chat is genshin

221:08 Like no, yeah, I would take an ad for genshin impact. Like but are there absolutely scantily clad?

221:15 Ladies that

221:18 You have to justify as being a thousand years old probably. I actually don't know. I've not I've not played

221:24 Genshin impact. I didn't it's the first thing people said heard of it as I haven't played it either

221:28 But I haven't heard of it as one of those types of games um

221:33 The scantily cladness. Yeah, but the them being

221:37 Looking like young ins Oh, uh, well that one's not scantily clad though

221:43 In the cover art, I'm gonna bring up the cover art in the cover art there are scantily clad ones

221:49 But this one's not scantily clad. Yeah, hold on here. Here's a reddit thread Dan. Do you want to throw this up?

221:58 Not scantily clad Fortunately, which is the only reason that I'm willing to put this on stream

222:05 Uh, but definitely young

222:10 Yeah, but if they're like who cares if they're not scantily clad, right? I think

222:18 Maybe I mean, I don't know what you do in the game. There's all kinds of ways to sexualize romance in the game

222:25 I don't know. I've literally I've never played Oh

222:38 Iki Yeah

222:41 Definitely icky definitely legal

222:45 um There's apparently no romance in the game

222:51 Okay helps a little bit It's not a negative. Here's the question though. Here's the question though because as soon as we start to make a judgment on genshin

223:02 Then we've drawn our line. Uh-huh But as a platform, it's not about our line. It's with legal's legal lines

223:10 Yeah, because as soon as you take a stance now, it's a conversation every single time. Yep

223:18 So I think you kind of have to say like we are

223:22 We don't think this, you know, it

223:25 Let's assume the thing we're forget genshin forget whatever else. Let's assume the thing that we're talking about

223:30 is something that we strongly oppose

223:35 We we could say let's go with gambling Sure, let's go with gambling and we do that, right?

223:39 So we we could say on our platforms and do often that we don't like gambling and we don't think it should be able to be

223:47 Promoted in the way that it is at the very least. Yeah, I mean time and place for everything

223:51 Yeah, you and the boys want to have a poker night or whatever far be it for me to be involved in that

223:56 The fact that that used to be illegal is wild I agree and I've said before that I actually I really respect

224:02 Uh, john martin's form of gambling because he knew that he had the potential to go too far

224:08 So it would bring a fixed amount of money and he would bring a fixed amount of money that could afford him

224:12 It would be equivalent of going to like dinner in a show, right?

224:16 Movie and dinner and he'd get dinner there probably the the healthiest relationship with gambling

224:21 I've been any person I've ever I saw literally zero issue with it

224:24 And I'm traditionally a person who dislikes gambling because when I worked at the bread factory

224:29 Dudes would get their checks go blow the entire check and not be able to make rent and be

224:34 Be homeless when they made enough money to not be homeless because they'd blow it all at the casino, which was

224:39 Terrific moderation. Yeah But but there's a lot of people that can't moderate themselves when it comes to gambling

224:45 So that's where the problems are and then my main issues with it is how it's advertised and yada yada yada yada

224:50 But we can talk about that on here and we can talk about how we don't like these other things

224:56 But when you are the

225:02 When we're making these decisions for other people we are effectively deciding law for them

225:08 And I don't think that's our place

225:11 Okay, well, I'll take that perspective. Um, I'll take the

225:20 I'll take the perspective chat there were some really good comments from chat

225:24 I think some of them don't take this the wrong way guys. I think some of them weren't a little unrealistic

225:30 This is in this world is it's it's going to be pretty difficult for you to survive without interacting with any companies

225:37 That does things you disagree with Um, yeah

225:41 And is that just sort of a defeatist crappy attitude? Sure

225:45 I would bet hard cash that you are doing that right now and I don't even mean by talking to us

225:52 I mean the fact that this stream if you're watching on twitch

225:56 Uh is part of amazon The stream if you're watching on youtube is part of google

226:02 every both of those companies are partnered with like

226:07 Thousands and thousands of other companies like you you can't you can't necessarily get away from this stuff

226:12 It is it is deeply intertwined. Do you have literally anything in your house from nestly likely?

226:18 Um, do you even know because there's all the like sub companies and all that kind of stuff

226:23 I got caught with cat food I didn't even know they made cat food. I would have had no idea nestly really. Yeah. Yeah, you've told me about that

226:31 Yep bonkers DJ spark had a good had a good comment though, you know, so long as it isn't illegal

226:38 We're willing to talk, but we won't force our staff to to to work with a company

226:43 For you. So if no one on staff wants to touch it, you might have to look elsewhere for that particular production

226:48 I think that's a fair a fair stance, you know, that sounds pretty good. I kind of like that. You know, I dig that

226:53 Like I think Yeah, that is cool. I think there's ways that

226:56 I think there's ways that we can be be more cool about it We have precedents for that when we were talking we at one point in time

227:02 We were talking to an adult creator about joining Floatplane And they were they were pretty close to joining and I had to talk with all my staff at the time

227:09 And I was like if you don't want to Interact or deal with their content at all

227:14 We'll find a way to make sure that you don't have to how do we sequester that how do we place her this away? Yeah

227:20 Um, and it was it was like interesting news figured out. Oh go ahead

227:25 that's it basically I My pickup is in 15 minutes. Okay. Um, whoops

227:32 Should we blast merge messages? Uh, we should probably get through well, okay

227:39 The prima rice-sized bionic. I am plant looks really cool. Um, roughly

227:47 200 roughly 22 million people in the united states have

227:50 uh age-related macular degeneration which can affect your vision the device is two millimeters square

227:55 And it can be placed beneath the retina during a two hour procedure after a month of healing

227:59 It can be activated and wirelessly connects to a video camera

228:02 Mounted on augmented reality glasses that sends visual data to a tiny processor that uses ai to convert images to infrared patterns

228:09 And can apparently significantly restore vision in more than 80 percent of 38 trial participants

228:15 Um, that sounds really cool. Incredibly cool. Wanted to highlight that. Absolutely. That's there's some good news tech

228:20 And in other news xbox wants all your money. This is a follow-up on the recent LTT video

228:25 Um, microsoft execs apparently have demanded 30 margin from the xbox department. So that's uh,

228:31 2x the industry average apparently dev kits just got a 33 price increase

228:35 The rog xbox ally x apparently runs better with Linux or I don't know if it's the x or the non x but whatever

228:41 And halo is apparently coming to ps5. Uh, good luck xbox. Um, wish you the best

228:47 It's been a great one. Let's try it. Do you want to hit me with a couple merge messages before I have to go?

228:53 I wonder if there's a way for me to like I wonder if there's a way for me to like carry this around with me or something while I pack because I have not packed like

229:01 I intentionally tilted this up um

229:05 So like this place is kind of a disaster area right now

229:09 You can't really see like my mess over there. You can one hand it. I believe in you. You can one hand it

229:14 Let's just uh, let's just blast through some of these then I'm a little tethered to things, you know

229:18 Speaking of tethered are the new cables going to be cat resistant and when's the messenger bag coming?

229:25 Uh, they will not be braided and from my experience. That's the main issue. Um, that's going to be a huge thing cables

229:31 Are you planning to use the gpd win five? Oh, yeah messenger bag. Is that coming?

229:37 Uh messenger bag. Uh, are we working on a messenger bag right now?

229:40 Oh, that's a good question for matthew Do you mind do you want to forward that to matthew or is it too is it too late to forward it?

229:46 If if you've already curated it. Uh, yeah, it's probably a bit too late. No

229:49 I know there's people internally that are pushing hard for a messenger style bag 9 30

229:54 I will make sure that they're aware of that. Um, are you planning to use the gpd win five the new game console thing?

230:01 Um, uh, we have one Oh, we have one. I'm still I'm still traveling with my ally actually got my og ally right there with the upgraded battery

230:10 I haven't actually moved to the x I I'm man. I'm really 50 50 on the ergo. It's really great for certain situations, but it's really

230:20 Not what I'm used to And I'm very comfortable on the ally and I don't need the extra performance right now

230:25 I'm playing final fantasy tactics. So like whatever good lead in how is final fantasy tactics and uh

230:33 Are luke and Dan gonna play it? Wait, hold on win five. Yes. I'm gonna I'm gonna get it and yes luke should play it. Ah, maybe not. I don't know

230:40 It's not for everyone. I suspect I would like it actually, but it's very expensive right now. I'm waiting for a discount

230:46 Oh, yeah, I have a lot of cued games in front of it. So I'm in I'm in no need of a game right now

230:51 I can't even play I haven't been able to play games in like two months. So

230:54 Like literally at all Literally wrecked. Yeah, I'm a proud father of a

231:02 End for this I'm a proud father of a one-month-old girl. What's the first video game you played with your firstborn Linus?

231:11 And uh, have you heard of the Edison motor? Now doing a hybrid big rig

231:16 Oh, yeah, that was my face. That's super awesome

231:21 That's a good idea. Are they local? They're yeah, they're in bc. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah

231:26 I still want to do a video with them. We got to get that going. Yeah. Um

231:31 First game I played with my kids, uh

231:35 Do a maternal

231:38 Yeah, definitely not that The first one I remember playing with my firstborn

231:43 Like not just him sitting in my lap while I played the first one. I remember playing with him was uh towerfall

231:50 That's funny because that's the first one. I remember playing with him

231:54 Yeah, that was fun. Like that was uh, that was a lot of fun playing with you guys. Yeah

231:59 What's up? Linus, you talked to ages ago about making more tools for the LTT brand even if they're not innovative as we want LTT branded tools any updates?

232:09 We're working on it. We're we're we're building a supplier network

232:12 We're building better processes for bringing products to market in a more timely fashion

232:17 um, the engineering team is hard at work on many many projects and um

232:23 I see no reason why we couldn't become

232:26 actually, hold on I see no reason why we couldn't become a tool brand. Um, I think they

232:34 I think we're learning a lot. We've made some we've made some mistakes the um

232:42 I think we're but yeah, no, I think we've learned a lot and I think that we can apply what we've learned to

232:48 um A lot of different categories of tool and make something that's just like really really great and not

232:54 Outlandishly priced with great support. I think the support is a really key part of it the trust me bro guarantee

233:00 And I think over time as people's memories of how mad they were about me saying that fade because we've put our money

233:06 Where our mouth is that may be branding that we even lean into more and more over time is I told you guys to trust me bro and

233:15 The ones who did are feeling pretty good about it at this point and let's keep that train going

233:20 Are we for time? I like really need to go if there's any more that specifically addressed me then great probably

233:28 Nothing directly. I was trying to um, yeah, I was probably not gonna

233:34 Get through these we should be good

233:37 Okay, I might have to go so uh, wait, are we cutting or is that the end of the show then?

233:42 Uh, I don't know how you want to handle that There's some for luke if a luke if a luke buys in the forest and I don't hear it

233:48 Does the wend show end? Yes. He is the one that ends the show

233:53 I had to end it fair enough before the show started because he said bye to somebody

233:58 Oh, what luke why would you do this?

234:01 Hey I'm sorry. Okay

234:05 Okay, we'll see you again next week then Same bad time same bad channel. Don't do it. See uh

234:12 Wait, oh or is it not over? Oh, okay. Well, I'm assuming I'm finishing merch messages, right?

234:17 Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Bye. Yeah, we can't leave him hanging. But yeah, see you. Okay

234:22 He almost said it. I almost did. I almost I feel like he baited me, but he did he did he did

234:27 Yeah, now I gotta like cut him out as well and I also didn't set it to went after dark. It's also frantic

234:34 Uh, we're fine button. We'll be our luke cam doesn't have Linus in it, but your chairs

234:41 Whoa You know this frame right here, which is Linus is a plus certification has like three spiders living behind it

234:52 I needed new vacuum. There's rat stuff everywhere here too. I'm surrounded by traps

234:58 I was I was stuck. I I had to take a meeting and I was I couldn't get over to the Labs

235:02 Which is where my desk is uh desks, I guess it was weird

235:06 But anyways, um, I couldn't get over there in time. So I just ran over to the windset and took it here

235:11 Because I was like, this would probably be free. Um

235:15 I ran into so many spiders and two different mice

235:19 That's great. I was like, it's very lively here when we're not around

235:23 I feel like they know like fridays to just like just leave. Yeah. Yeah. Don't disgusting don't come out

235:29 All right. Your question is for luke. Yes How is the new build of the store coming building a custom theme or based off horizon?

235:37 We'd love to see the behind some scenes of that process

235:40 After it goes live It's still a little bit up in the air horizon

235:45 uh The is that a specific theme?

235:50 Sounds about right I don't think we're currently planning on horizon

235:57 There are A few different ones we're looking at we're working with an agency things are kind of I don't know

236:03 We're a big company now doing big company stuff. Uh, but yeah, things are not currently set in stone

236:11 Yeah, but it's coming Question for the two ls. Well, there's only one now in your opinion. What is the dumbest thing the other has ever done?

236:18 Uh, Linus doesn't get to defend himself now

236:21 Yeah As an arbiter of the talent, which is the dumbest of all Linus would

236:29 Top of mind for Linus, I think he would say

236:33 The the pizza heater, but I think there's probably something deeper than that that he'd he'd rip me for

236:40 Uh For him

236:49 It's either his just like stupid take on the backpack warranty stuff or it's the forum response to steve

236:56 Ah It's one of those two

237:03 Yeah, and I think I win this one so

237:08 Yeah, you do Luke thoughts on the community effort to run the big screen beyond two on Linux

237:14 Really glad to not have to dual boot also. Thanks for bringing undies back

237:18 Of course mere days after I bought some from ludwig

237:22 I had no idea about the big screen beyond two on Linux thing. That sounds amazing

237:26 I would be really happy if they got that going. Um, I have still not been able to use it because my house is

237:33 Uh broken effectively still waiting for you to use it so that I know if I should spend the oh, you can borrow it

237:39 Effort borrow it Oh, yeah, okay. Do it. Yeah. I literally can't use it. You I mean sure you might as well

237:46 I'd have to bring my sim rig out again, but like sure

237:50 I mean you could hook it up here Yeah, yeah, I guess that's true. You really want it

237:54 I think that I mean we have one here that I could play with as well

237:57 Fair enough, but it's just like yeah, you can like actually take mine home for it

238:00 If you want like it's it's not going to be super soon that I'd be able to use it

238:03 So I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, but I mean you might as well profit

238:08 Or not if I like it that's the major concern loss. Yeah. Yeah. I mean is it really I'm really excited

238:15 I think it's really cool. I was so excited for the first one to come out and then I procrastinated because I'm like that

238:21 Yeah, and now there's a second one. So I think I'll probably just get that one I saw the first one and was like pretty confident that they were going to survive to make a second one

238:28 And I was like I feel like the second one's gonna be kind of a banger and I waited and I'm happy with my planning on that

238:34 Hello first time merch messenger long time viewer. I was wanting to know if luke has read the storm light archive

238:40 I think you would really enjoy it. Uh, I'm pretty sure let me look this up really quick

238:45 Storm light archive. I'm pretty sure this is on. Oh, brandon sanderson

238:52 No, but this is on my list of things to read brandon sanderson is awesome. Um

239:00 I have a massive backlog of

239:05 Uh, nerd forge has a video on this. What?

239:11 What we made massive versions of the storm light archive by brandon sanderson

239:15 That's so cool. That's really cool

239:19 They're so cool nerd forge is cool. Anyways, yeah, I will read those at some point that will actually happen

239:25 My like reading list is not something that just lasts forever and never ever moves forward

239:30 Um, it moves forward slowly because I read slowly, but uh, it does move it does move

239:36 So I am certain I will read it eventually One of them reached out to maybe do a game jam one of these days, which I think would be a lot of fun

239:43 Huh? One of the nerd forge. Oh, yeah

239:47 Yeah, that'd be incredible. I didn't even know they did that me neither. That's so cool. But yeah

239:52 Terrified. Hi. Do though. Yeah, I know

239:55 Hell yeah, that sounds amazing. Hi Linus tuk and tan

239:58 uh, given the upcoming tectadopamine

240:04 Disrect pipeline direct pipeline. Sorry the words are split. Um, what steps do you think we can take as a society to prevent?

240:12 More phone addiction more antisocial behavior

240:18 It's tough it's tough because it's so easy, which is the problem promote within your friend group and your relationships uninstalling certain apps

240:27 um promote Having like timers on your stuff

240:33 um Oh

240:38 Try to yeah and try to like

240:42 Build habits where you aren't on your phone. Like I had um some really good old buddies of mine

240:50 We had a game night not that long ago Uh, where we played the slay the spire board game, which is incredibly good by the way like

240:57 Masterful board game one of the best board games ever played and it's four player co-op and it was fantastic and no one was ever on their phones

241:04 the whole time And it just like felt cool everyone was very present

241:09 So if you build this like this like culture within your group of the people that you're spending time with are not just on their phones all the time

241:16 It's good and I have found myself Being not good at this before

241:21 Pretty often to be clear. Um, and it's something that I'm currently actively working on

241:26 um But yeah support others in working on it and work on it yourself and just try to be the

241:33 The brightness you want to see in the world

241:37 That isn't your phone screen Have you heard of arc raiders? Yeah

241:42 That sounds positive Yeah, I played the beta and it was freaking sick the okay the the problem that I have the mechanics feel great

241:51 The the droid things. I don't know what they're actually called the robots in the in the game people want them to be nerfed

241:57 I strongly disagree. I think those need to be terrifying and

242:01 This is wild the way they are. Yeah, I saw some early builds of this. It looked amazing. I was like

242:08 new But then third person and like it looks super fun

242:12 It it what I had a black semi pve, right?

242:16 Semi it's still it's still definitely pvp, but you can

242:23 Play a good match Without interacting with people, but that's also true with tarkov

242:29 Yeah, of course So if you consider tarkov semi pvp, which I don't think people would I think they'll just consider pvp

242:37 Um, then it's effectively the same my one issue with it and I have not played since their last beta. Well, I guess it's

242:44 Just coming out Thursday. Do they mean next Thursday? Whatever. I don't have a computer right now that like works

242:51 So, uh, I have not been in the loop, but uh

242:54 Uh, yeah single paired karkov. Okay, fine fair enough. Um

243:00 But I I don't suspect I'm gonna be able to play this on launch. I haven't been able to play battlefield 6

243:03 I'm a little behind right now But the problem that I had in the beta was that the loop didn't feel great when you were in the game

243:11 Things that mechanically felt fantastic the movement felt really good. A lot of the guns felt really good

243:17 um the the combat both with with droid things and and clankers and humans

243:24 Was with was quite good. The balance of things seemed pretty good. Um, but the looting kind of sucked

243:33 and the Why do I care was pretty extremely lacking. Um

243:40 What is the point in tarkov? It's pretty obvious. Um

243:44 Why you're doing what you're doing the storyline is there the storyline of tarkov despite being

243:48 No one ever reads any of the tasks and all that kind of stuff the storyline is very straightforward

243:56 You're stuck in this like quarantine zone Um

244:00 You're fighting to survive and you need to try to get out

244:03 So you're gathering survival supplies which include like all these little tiny micro gun bits and attachments and stuff in arc raiders

244:11 It's like I got the the blue hand grip

244:15 That's awesome. I'm excited. I can't wait till I get the purple hand grip, which is better

244:21 And it's just it's very boring and feels empty in regards to the looting and the progression

244:27 um So I hope they figure that out and I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way so

244:33 uh Yeah, but the feel and stuff is like fantastic and I do suspect that they can figure out the story stuff

244:41 So hopefully they do Hi Dan luke and blindness well just us two I guess you've spoken previously about contacting wendel for help with complex technical

244:50 Topics. Yeah, he's our tech support. What's the most obscure technical knowledge? Wendel has provided that impressed you

244:58 Who does wendel go to? Steve bair himself

245:02 Just go to his conscious asks himself questions

245:05 And he answers it Blindness, I'm sorry Linus. How do how do Linux work?

245:12 Yeah, he's just shrugs says oh, let me call wendel and then pauses and looks at his phone and then has a little cry

245:23 I feel like it's like an animated short

245:27 For some reason I just watched that'll happen. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Yes. That was beautiful. That was fantastic

245:34 Uh most obscure technical knowledge dude. I don't know it's just constant with him one of the

245:41 Just I'm just gonna glaze the crap out of wendel one of the

245:45 One of the coolest things about hanging out with wendel is that

245:50 You like Feel dumb because he's so smart, but then he doesn't make you feel dumb. Does that make any sense?

245:57 I've sound dumb just saying that It's it's less. I don't think talking to wendel you feel dumb

246:03 I think when you talk to wendel, it's like hey, I don't have this knowledge. Yeah, and then he's like

246:09 Yeah, that's a good way saying here's the knowledge and you're like, thanks wendel come along this interesting journey

246:15 I have learned Yeah, and he wants to

246:19 And he's also interested in learning things himself. Yeah, and he's just I don't know. He's just such a wholesome

246:25 Amazing positive dude a source of reason in the world where there are few

246:30 um Wendel's great

246:33 And last one I've got um this one's I think mostly for you

246:38 How would you like to see a tape-to-tape and shorzy crossover?

246:43 Certainly think it would be a fruitful fruitful collab. I think it would be fantastic

246:46 I've mentioned this on wancho before my the reason why I mentioned is because shorzy has their own hockey game

246:53 And while it is in early access, I did not enjoy it so much that I played for like

246:59 I think 15 20 minutes and then all that forward and never looked back

247:04 And we'll wait for the full release release and then try again for sure

247:08 But I really wish they just collaborated with tape-to-tape

247:12 And made like a team and tape-to-tape or something or like an alternate campaign that was like shorzy based that would be sick

247:21 um I I I think two incredibly small indie games both being

247:30 Hockey games is a lot to ask especially with them both being early access at the same time guys

247:37 Come on

247:42 But hey if it's good sick sounds good I bought it because I wanted to support shorzy because I I freaking love that show. It's fantastic

247:49 um But yeah, it wasn't uh my happiest game purchase ever again. It's early access. I can't judge it too hard, but

247:58 Yeah And that's all I got and that's it

248:03 Same bedtime same bad channel. Bye

248:27 Oh