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I hope you're having a wonderful time. Do you have your water bottle?
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I know I'm thirsty for a good wancho
Dan I don't think I've ever had this on you
We have new products. I'm wearing a shirt. I
Wish I had my I wish I had my bleep buttons so bad right now
I would say so many things to you
There's the you there's the sexy music playing right now. Let me just stop that. Oh, I can't hear it. No
Whoops All right
Positive wancho if you just say everything in a really positive announcement voice, then it just is positive, right?
That's exactly how it works like that and and we've tried that before and
Literally ended up with reddit threads about how could line is possibly support this terrible thing
I don't even remember that but I fully believe it
I don't want to restart
Oh, I missed it because our meeting got into it didn't show up until now
What is it I have to restart my compooper
Oh got him Yep Self-owned that's why that's why every time infra gets around to installing all the stuff on my computer
I just grab a new computer that doesn't have any of our infra stuff on it
He's figured out the hack You can't do that
Don't tell people that you know how to do that
I don't even want to say what I did to my laptop
Do you know what I did to my laptop Dan? That one weekend that I just like
freaked out Yeah, I think he ran into bit locker probably. Yeah, and now it's gone
What did you lock your laptop not not anymore
Oh boy can't be encrypted if it's empty
We do have the keys for those Yeah, I didn't know where they were
That was a whole other fiasco because they were stored in multiple places
Uh, that's not cool. They should be I don't I'm fairly certain. That's not a thing anymore. I'm just like crashed out about it, but
maybe Oh, hey, this is probably not for the main show, but I had a super weird experience last night. Oh
I was standing around waiting for
There's so many jokes in a convenience store. I had already gotten my freeze-dried mangoes
and So I was just like waiting in the square
and this guy comes up to me and he like approaches me kind of sheepishly
and I'm
Just he's like hi and I'm like
Hi, like I assume he wants a selfie or something, right? Sure. Um
and he's just like
I just think you're really good-looking. Can I get a picture with you and I'm like
What? Has that ever happened before?
No, that is no no that has never happened before but
I think I think it's a
I think it's a this country thing and foreigners
Yeah, I might as well just say I'm in China
Um, yeah, yeah, but like
Dude, it was the weirdest thing and then like I thought it was like I thought it was like a hustle or something
And I was like well my boys are right there. They're like five steps away. I'll just get I'll put my hand on my wallet
Like sure You know, but no, he just he just like leans in takes a selfie
and like he's like
Thanks, and then he just leaves. I'm like
Was I just propositioned or like what what just happened? What just what the fuck just happened?
Linus, it's a tribute
So weird, I'm not gonna explain all that
Um, oh right. I forgot that I don't have my bleep button. Okay. I'm gonna have to just relax
Um, anyway, we should do this thing
It was really weird we got we got a we got a Dan you could make a
Can you yeah, you could make a remote bleep button. I think
Oh, dude Bjorn was getting Bjorn was getting macked on so hard though
Oh, yeah, I just don't understand why it's always dudes with me always
Maybe we don't need to expand on this I'm gonna say it makes so many jokes and I just I just won't
It's always dudes
All right, why don't we uh, why don't we resume the selected?
Check in
Ready to go
Linus sets off the gay dart. No, I I have heard that I uh
One of the one of the funniest experiences that I had in high school was when I accidentally went on a date with a gay classmate
I mean I told me that Yeah, I didn't I didn't know it was a date. Um
Like I knew he was gay, but I just
You know, I didn't I didn't know that it was like that it was like that and I always remember
You know afterward me explaining that I'm definitely
Like not gay uh and that like we're still cool like I don't care, right like being gay is not a crime
Um And and like honestly I like I had a good time tonight as friends
Uh, but I'm like definitely not gay and he basically was like
He gave me like this spiel about how someday you're gonna realize and you know
I hope you don't get too far into like, you know having a heterosexual marriage and kids before you figure it out
kind of thing and it's just like bro Damn no
He just wanted some ARM candy for the night
Yeah, um
But yeah, he was he basically told me like my gaydar is like never wrong and I'm like well
It is today
Is it really the earrings like is it that simple I just removed the earrings and then I look straight
See I I can't give you a hint because I feel like my gaydar is not that bad
And you've never pinged me in the slightest
I don't know I don't think and I mean genuinely no offense. I don't think just like being small
Should should do that It doesn't like that doesn't seem fair to me at all like I don't yeah
I don't I don't get it No
The earrings don't help but the hips don't lie. Okay, you know what I think we're gonna move off of this conversation now
Okay, let's get the show started
Yeah, uh, all right
Don't lie you've definitely both pinged each other. No like
No, see one of the one of the things is like
Making incredibly
Erotic jokes with your boys is like a thing that definitely straight dudes do
So like The fact that they're usually like so over the top
Makes it almost the opposite
Does that make sense? I think it's one of those. No, I think it's one of those things
That's a flat circle luke like I think making
Jokes with your boys is very straight and then making even more explicit jokes with your boys is very gay
And then going even further is really straight I think going even further than that is really gay until you get to the point where everyone's clothes are off
Kissing the homies. Good night is not a joke
Unless you need it to be Ah
Say psych right now
Okay
All right, let's uh ready when you are yeah, let's go
I am resuming the selected now
Yeah, that's not going on the main show. All right
Okay
What is up everybody and welcome to the wanshow coming to you live from behind the great
To firewall we've got a fantastic show lined up for you guys today. What do we want to talk about?
Oh, I don't know. How about the fact that an amazon snafu
broke the flip in internet Um affecting it in ways that I don't think pretty much anyone could have seen coming like
Seriously major services, uh banks
Heated beds. We're not operating correctly and we're gonna we're gonna get into get it get get into the impact
We're also going to be talking about Oh, I don't know. How about the cs2?
Skins market losing a casual two
billion dollars in value because of a change that valve made
But here's the thing guys valve can't rug pull if they never told you guys to buy this stuff
We'll get into that. What else we got this week. They're using jet engines to supplement power for growing ai data centers
That's cool and not a problem. Also
Actually kind of cool youtube's likeness detection tech has officially launched
What does that mean? It means good things as far as I can tell we'll talk about that later
Oh, I can't do it. I can I can't do the button. I can I can't do the button. I did it
Are you gonna do the things I can do the things
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Much dbrand rap partner del laptop partner secret live chair partner
Wait, he's not here What you're gonna you're messing with my stuff. Oh
You can't no you can't do that. That's illegal yours was actually right side up, which was weird
I did that before the show someone was messing with me already mine was upside down. So I fixed mine
All right, why don't we jump right into our big headline topic this week a major outage of amazon web services rendered large parts of the internet
Unusable earlier this week breaking hundreds of apps websites and games that rely on the service
Brace yourselves guys because here's a non comprehensive list of not even close to pretty small
Pretty small web services. You might have heard of that were impacted
Alexa ring. Okay, that all makes sense. That's those those are amazon services
Reddit snapchat wordl roblox amazon. Okay, that one many major banks ring robin hood hbo max venmo epic games
McDonald's fortnight lift hulu disney plus roku signal stream reddit zoom pokemon go playstation network
AI services such as perplexity and services from 18t Verizon and t-mobile
along with many others Around the world as much as a third of internet sites and services rely in some way on
Amazon web services better known as a Ws now luke can we take a moment? Yes
to just kind of pause from this and talk about
How bat crap crazy that is not because we are giving
An american mega corporation So much power and putting them in a position where they can where they are the
The the the the keystone of the entire freaking online lives lives that we live
Well combine it with conflagration. It's like even crazier
But because amazon is really expensive
yeah How is a third of the internet using aws? It's so expensive as much as it's really expensive
Nobody got fired for using aws. Also aws is really expensive for
Mostly specifically the use case that we had
And it's it's less expensive for that now. It's still really expensive though. If you're doing
Small transactiony kind of things on it and you're doing it efficiently. It can be it can be kind of all right
It's also expensive to have engineers on staff managing your own servers
Um Like like how things are expensive is is questionable. Someone said amazon is a new ibm. It's like
kind of um a lot of places just
Do that by default A lot of these services as well like one part of it would work on aws. It wouldn't be like their entire thing is on aws
Like we actually technically this stream for Floatplane is coming through aws
Heavens no, yeah So like it but but the vast majority of our service is not literally only that portion
Because ivs their their whole like twitch thing
Is is pretty easy to use So
Yeah, so in a nutshell aws does provide a legitimately good service that can be affordable
And I mean honestly, I still I still remember when we were first starting up Floatplane and even in the years proceeding that
What a big deal it was to be aws certified, which basically as far as you know
From my conversations with you basically meant that people went to
a amazon was pretty much making it so affordable and so easy to develop services with aws
um that being aws certified pretty much meant that you know, you could you could
Color in a coloring book compared to you know, the old way
and uh, you I remember you not really caring very much about that when people were applying
um, it was just so much easier to get than than many other things and like it's there's a big gap between someone who can
Build things in aws and someone who can build things in aws efficiently and that is like incredibly important
Right and then and then I remember you saying like this is basically
Amazon's power play to have everybody certified in spending money at amazon. Yeah
And it's going to kill like the and and and there's there's certainly something to be said for standards
You know standards are good, but it's going to it's going to kill the just like boutique
website boutique hosting and and and data service data serving
businesses and skills it's going to kill those skills and we're going to be left with this world where
everything just runs on aws because it was so
Even then it wasn't affordable in all cases, but in many cases it was very affordable and um
The people getting certified and the people implementing these services weren't the ones spending the money
So for the things that were expensive or once they ramped up the pricing
There'd be no incentive for the people who maintain these services to move off of aws
Especially if it's the only thing that they know and it feels like this outage is pretty much
the doomsday scenario Or at least a hint of what a doomsday scenario like you imagined might look like is that is that kind of fair to say?
I mean this is a like literally 10 year old conversation at this point, but yeah, I mean this is this is pretty much exactly it
I actually thought it was going to be even more
I think like more recently over the last few years some places have been going back
to their own managed stuff
Uh, which I I I don't know if I
So it's hard to remember back then, but I I I think I would have expected that to not be happening
Um, I don't think we did talk about that. We both wanted it. We both didn't understand
why on-prem was not it wasn't just not really used as much
It was like Looked down upon. Oh, yeah, it was it was shunned. Yeah, like I got crapped on why are you doing it the stupid old way
Archival storage. Yeah, exactly. Are you a caveman? Yeah, you know, and so I think we both
Wanted on-prem. I definitely wanted either of us have hope
No, no, I don't think so at all And I'm happy that it is kind of coming back and I don't think this outage is like why it's coming back to be clear
Um, no a very I think it's to do with money rare case outage is not. Yeah, it's not what people are running away from
Um, I think it's money. I think it's control
Exactly privacy stuff like that
It's Yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, this outage was was crazy
Yeah, it's one one interesting loop is if I remember correctly
when Pokemon go first week because that was one of the things mentioned in this list when pokemon go first went live their server struggled
and aws like Tweeted or something
And was like, hey, we can like help you with that Um, yep, so I guess they figured something out there because I didn't actually know they started working with them
NCI X's weekly specials Uh during major events like boxing day, which uh for those of you not in canada or the uk or australia
Is was kind of canada's black friday until black friday kind of made its way into
the international space um
like every Boxing day our site would just be completely unusable like sometimes for for a very long period of time
And oh, yeah I wasn't I wasn't saying it for you. I know you know, I just I found some packed like, you know
We've been my house has been we've been moving stuff around constantly to get out of the way of certain types of work and whatnot
And I found a few boxes that had NCX, uh barcode labels on them and I was like hell. Yeah
We're we're back. Anyway, so
we We like one year like magically solved it and when I found out that our solution was to use aws
I was like losing my mind because I was sitting here going like if this
is not A sign of the end times. I don't know what is we are literally
Hiring like paying large amounts of money because this is during, you know peak hours and and uh, we were using
More than just, you know hosting I think we were using like DDoS protection services from them and stuff like that
Like basically it was a whole aws package that we were buying to
to in a desperate attempt to keep our website up and I was like
we are cooked because
Like yes, obviously part of being a retailer
Is having the right the right stock, right? Having the right pricing having the relationship with the customer, you know, the email
Newsletter list, you know all those things that that make you a retailer
But part of being an online retailer is having a modern
tech Deployment that allows you to to be competitive in the modern space and you know at this time, you know
Not only am I sitting reading about, you know, amazon's super advanced
Mega warehouses and and prime and whatever, right? Remember, this is relatively early days
They were just kind of moving into canada, but now i'm sitting here going our infrastructure our web infrastructure, which is
Our whole thing nobody can access us without it
Is so bad it's so outdated so broken that we're literally hiring
The competitor that is going to move in and eat our lunch
To desperately keep our website alive for just a little bit longer. I just it was
It was such a moment for me
Is it's like like what could I do? What could I what could I compare that to?
It would be like freaking You know sam's club
um Having to having to lease
Floor spacing costco in order to sell bulk pianos or whatever, you know, but trying to i'm trying to you get what i mean though
No, for sure. It's i mean, it's the it's one of the weirdest things with kick for me, right?
Is it's like it would be like lo is buying their inventory from home depot
Effectively their entire site from amazon
Yeah, it's it's so it's so interesting to me because they're the same business model basically like it's not exactly, but it's so similar
um Yeah, and then and then you know that twitch is basically not making money. So it's like what's happening
I can guarantee you ivs is making money which is which is amazon's like
Livestreaming thing and then i believe they're also getting other services from amazon as well
So like you know, they're definitely making money off of like i have i have speculated
I don't i used to have a bunch of friends at twitch and they all retired now because they made that amazon stock money
But um if i had someone to talk to i would i would ask them this but at a certain point the whole twitch doesn't make money
I almost wonder if it like doesn't really matter because that's what they're using to keep the tech stack
nice and fresh to sell to other people anyways, so like
Whatever it's their own internal test vehicle. Yeah
And every once in a while there's a random scandal over a hot tub nip slip or uh, sure, you know
a little bit of you know Messaging people in discord that probably shouldn't have been done and we can just other kind of blinders on ignore this thing and
Yeah, test our technology and if it ultimately doesn't work out then I guess whatever
I yeah, because like I don't think it's a terrible hypothesis
They still need a thing to hold up and go like look
We can do a lot of this and really well And them having that yeah in their own control is like the best advertisement they could have
And then when people talk about twitch they still talk about twitch as its
Own island it's very rare for like the news cycle to be like amazon's twitch
Oh, yeah has this so-and-so scandal they just say twitch So they're they're still pretty insulated from the scandals and it's an incredible advertisement for a very expensive service
Like here hear me out on this would
william osman Have done sauce plus with us if we didn't have Floatplane
Yeah, no, and I think yeah, you got the answer is obvious
I don't think so, but yeah I owed I don't think so. I would have been really weird
I wouldn't have believed that we had the credibility to do it if we didn't have our own test vehicle. Yeah
Yeah, it makes makes sense We got about 20 of the way through the notes on this topic. So I'm gonna keep going
Amazon's subsequent investigation into the out
Outage determined that it impacted customer applications over three distinct periods
So starting just before midnight
Pacific time sunday amazon web services began experiencing
Increased dynamo db API error rates in the u.s. East one region
Dynamo db is a serverless fully managed no sequel database that powers many high traffic amazon properties
Including alexa amazon.com and all amazon fulfillment centers
It also serves aws customers and when it's functional routinely handles more than one
Million requests per hour
Yeah, the root cause was found to be a latent defect in the services automatic dns management
I was about to say exactly what jordan wrote in the notes
It's always dns like I can I can practically picture
Seinfeld being like like Newman dns, you know
my arch rival dns issues
Sometimes it can even be intentional dns issues. Um, I okay, we're going on another sidetrack here
Going on the side quest. So I have this issue when I fly
Where I don't I like to use multiple devices on the internet
You know sometimes I have my laptop up and I want to play a game with my controller and my bigger screen
And I just I need to be able to validate that steams online because I forgot to launch it before I took off
Whatever the that doesn't matter the point is I might also want to have my phone texting on whatsapp with my wife
Um at the same time But what I don't like to do
Is pay for two separate internet connections on the same flight
It's like bro, you already got my 18 dollars or whatever for like four hours of internet that is
That is not something i'm going to do two times
Doesn't matter how much I could afford it. It doesn't matter
If I was literally a billionaire, I would not pay for internet twice on one flight. I simply won't
It's it's the principle of the thing so Windows actually has uh, and I don't know when they when they added this or at least when it got so convenient
But Windows has a feature to use your laptop as a mobile hotspot
And what's really cool about it is my understanding is there is a way to do this on Android as well
Because I've talked about this before and someone pointed out you can do it on Android as well
But I certainly haven't found a very convenient way to do it. Um
Um Where you can share a wi-fi connection over wi-fi
So on Windows you can have Your wi-fi internet connection shared over wi-fi like internet connection sharing has been a thing like five ever
If you had a wired connection, you could share it over wi-fi
Or if you had a wireless connection, you could share it over I think you could do like bluetooth and even like infrared back in the day. There's there's there's all kinds of stuff
But anyway, the point is I've been using this for years
So I would like plug my laptop when I didn't even want to use my laptop at all
Because I would buy internet for my laptop I would like turn off sleep when closing the lid
Plug it into the power outlet by my seat and just like put it on the floor
And then keep using the internet off of my laptop hotspot then pull it up when I want to use my laptop
So I could use it to have a whole hotspot for me and my homies on the plane. It's been great
But but over the last
I don't know and and it depends on the airline some of them caught on to it pretty quick
And some of them seem to have caught on to it a little slower over the last couple of years. Maybe they have started to
Wise up and They they they've been doing something
Something to make it so that the and I'm going to get the terminology wrong here because I only had to look this up
Because I was trying to solve this problem on a on a stupid flight
But basically, you know the little internet status indicator in the in the system tray on Windows
Okay, yeah Like the little the little, you know globe or the little the little like wi-fi thing. Okay
There they were doing something to make that status indicator
Not detect that you have an internet connection And
When they do that a whole bunch of stuff doesn't work
So whatsapp The like the the Windows whatsapp client doesn't work
Windows update obviously doesn't work. I can totally understand why they wouldn't want anybody, you know performing Windows updates on a plane
And and maybe that was a big part of their motivation for implementing this
But any service that requires
That requires your computer to know that it is online doesn't work a web browser works
You can be online all you want
But if the computer doesn't know it, there's certain services that won't work and mobile hotspot is one of them. So
I spent probably And this is this is really dumb
But one of the a previous flight that I was on I spent probably an hour
Of my like three hour flight pass just trying to overcome this obstacle because it just had become kind of an interesting challenge
Sure, and I didn't manage to do it because my google foo simply wasn't strong enough, but on this last flight
I managed to do it with a little bit of help from some old friends, uh, david pankratz who hasn't appeared on camera too much
He was in the um the forte
Uh vr headset video recently, but uh, yeah, he's super cool guy very technical
Oh, yeah, right, obviously he was uh, he was on my team in scrapyard wars. Anyway, david super cool and uh,
He pinged me. He sent me in the right direction. He's like, can you get here by any chance?
www.msftnci.com slash ncsi.txt so
I had already found this weird github that I had linked in my reddit post asking people to kind of help me with this
That claimed to bypass this issue by setting up like a like a local a local server essentially that runs on your own machine
And Tricks Windows into pinging that to check for connectivity. So it'll just always think it's connected because you get you're always you can always be connected to yourself
Uh, but but david sort of linked me up with the with the terminology and
As soon as I tried to go to that url it redirected to the airlines captive portal sign in page and I was like, ah
dns so basically they're doing some funky stuff with
dns that makes it so that you can't access
the the nc ncsi network connection, you know, whatever whatever the whatever the service is called and long story short
I finally managed to fix it and if you guys ever run into this what you have to do is you have to switch over to
a passive mode so
Normally the default for Windows is to actively ping that specific url and I don't
I'm sure there's a really good technical reason why you would want to ping a specific
url in order to determine if your internet is on versus just more broadly
sort of Recognizing that the internet is on by just, you know, seeing if there's internet traffic coming in like I remember back in the day
Like you probably remember this too, luke You'd run into situations all the time where the indicator looks great
Right, it's like you're connected to the internet, but you just totally wouldn't have an internet connection. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
but I but I was reminded but I but I was reminded of this topic because
I was thinking like dude, what would happen
If that service went down
If microsoft ncsi went down
like And everyone's computers just were connected to the internet, but didn't know they were connected to the internet, dude
That would be that would be wild. Okay, so hold on. I found my post on reddit where I explained the fix
So, yeah, you need to disable active probing which
And it's always a registry hack is just a single registry value
That you switch off for active probing and it switches on passive probing
Which does exactly what I would have Intuited is the better way to do this where it just kind of monitors for internet traffic
Once in a while and if it detects it it goes. Yep, you're connected to the internet
And then turns on the little icon that says you're connected to the internet and allows you to use whatever services you want
So that was a really It's very early and i'm in another time zone and my brain's not really functioning correctly meandering way of telling the story of
I can now use my mobile hotspot on the plane and also
If that service from microsoft ever goes down
i'm good Yeah
Yeah You can hit it with a cool story, bro. I think I deserve it. It's a little bit of a cool story, bro
Uh, that is interesting though. Like it is it is This is like one of the twigs at the bottom of the pile of things that's keeping the internet
Alive right now and we saw one of the twigs break for a small period of time
And the impact of that there are other ones. I mentioned cloud flare earlier. This sounds like kind of
In a different vein, but one of them, um, but it's it's it's just it's interesting how
Fragile this thing that like an enormous percentage of a lot of people's lives
Realize on it's it's pretty wild
Yeah, um people have some comments on the whole
Uh probing thing penda says they're doing something similar with cruise lines too
Yep That totally makes sense. Uh addo says some apps don't use the Windows API and do their own check
But many do use the microsoft method. Yep. So a lot of things work a lot of things
Flipping don't uh, oh man steam had a bug for a little while
Um, I think they fixed it maybe about a month ago for me
But it was driving me absolutely crazy where steam wouldn't know that it was connected to the internet unless I was in desktop mode
Like it wouldn't know in big picture. So I went a span of like at least a month without
Not being in big picture on my on my ally And so I didn't get an update to a new version of the tape to tape like pre beta
Like the the the feedback build that I was on and so I kept giving them feedback that was like based on an old build
and I had no idea because my steam just like wasn't connected to the internet for over a month and
What the heck? I didn't know there were any updates to the game and then the second I flipped out into desktop mode
It updated now. I was like, oh crap this it's an
Sorry guys, this is embarrassing, but I've been running an ancient build while I've been like sending all of these
These feedback that would have turned me nuts dude
Dude, I know I know I I felt so bad. I felt so bad, but I just I didn't know
I had no idea. I can't reproduce this problem
And then I looked it up and it was a thing like people
People just they're like, oh, yeah the fix is just to switch to desktop mode. I'm like that that is
That is so dumb. Why would being in big picture mode make it so that steam doesn't know that it's connected to the internet?
That is weird wild. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah
If anyone has any insight into why that would have been that
wow Would love to would love to hear about it
I I just immediately jumped to like was that the easiest way for them to just make it so that you don't download the background
It shouldn't be they have other ways to handle that
That you mean? Yeah
Ah There's no way. Oh off brand law says I work with an engineer who worked on big picture. I'll get back to you next week
Cool. Okay. Yeah, like I would I would love I'd love to know why I'd love to know why
But I like seriously I looked it up. This was not just me. This was a thing
Sorry, I shall continue and we shall actually get through this topic at some point
The dynamo db issue also impacted ec2 amazon's on-demand computing service
Resulting in increased API averse increased latency and failure to launch new instances in the us east one region
um The problems with ec2 impacted the network load balancer and all services that use network load balancer
Due to failing node health checks all these issues, of course caused problems for other dependent amazon services with operations only returning to fully normal by about 4 a.m
Tuesday Tuesday
If you enjoy massive walls of tiny text, you can check out amazon's post event summary again
If you want to throw that in the chat, that'd be that'd be kind of cool
CNN business reported that the financial impact of this outage could be in the hundreds of billions
Okay, that yeah I don't know about that that seems like it might just be one of those like and ai could
Gain sentience and take over the world like yeah, maybe but also like we're never going to be able to measure this
You know it could have been more than a hundred million dollars
Yeah, it could have been it could have been
Some of the less serious impacts owners of eight sleep smart beds were unable to change position or temperature of their beds
Which is Ridiculous and something that luke and i have talked about on the WAN Show before
There is no reason whatsoever that two devices on the same wi-fi should have to
Relay through a cloud server To talk to each other when they are both just devices you flipping own the only possible reason is an excess of control
From the company that you bought it from
Don't forget about an excess of data collection luke you've forgotten the other possible reason. Yeah
True maybe both. I think in this case it's both
Anyway in response eight sleep has added an outage mode to their beds, which
Should just be the default operating mode But whatever I guess this is progress
Some slack users found themselves unable to leave audio conversations
that's Potentially really awkward but also pretty funny
I had that problem. It was actually totally fine because everyone else was able to leave
um but yeah
So you just uh does slack does slack give you that forever alone message like discord does
Hey, it appears you're in this voice chat by yourself. Um, that's pretty sad. Also. We're gonna turn off our
Our servers now. We're gonna disconnect. No, but it plays it plays like lobby music
Um, and it's like actually pretty great lobby music
So it was it was pretty chill to be honest
Cool cool, um premiere league soccer officials were forced to manually confirm offside calls when their aws based
semi-automated offside technology was unavailable. Oh, that's funny
Starbucks users were forced to talk to a human to order their drinks. That's probably the worst outage out of all of them
And uh wordle and duolingo lost their minds about broken streaks
It looks like the streaks were maintained by the respective devs though
Um, or it looks yeah, uh, so yeah
Cool. Oh the discussion question is the the first thing I said basically
Yeah, so we can move on sure Yes, we are dependent on a small handful of services and yes
It's a terrible terrible terrible thing and and to to to give the discussion questions some some credit the
The aws plus cloudflare combo is a particularly devastating
You know to support beams to just chop right at the knees if you wanted to hurt the internet
All right, you want to pick a next topic for us. I can't see there's messages, so I don't know
It's still topic to let's talk about this one because it's just it's interesting to me
The counter strike to market cap for skins dropped by almost two
Billion dollars
Oh my god Counter strike push an update this week that affected the way certain items can now be combined
To create rarer ones often much harder to achieve through the game's loot box mechanics
If I remember correctly this combining of things to get a new one was a mechanic back in tf2
At a certain point. I could be wrong. You're forgetting the full history here. Okay. You're forgetting the full history here
Okay. Okay. This combining mechanic
Okay was first implemented by carneys
At carnivals You walk up you see the shiny big bear
You play the game You get a tiny plastic trinket. You're totally right. You trade up plastic
To be clear I actually do think that overall in the long run
This is probably a healthier thing for making cs2 gambling
On skins less of a thing maybe hopefully oh, yeah, hopefully
But it's still It still has its roots in grift games. Okay. Okay. I've got a theory. I've got a theory here
This hurts the market, but the market is
A lot of it is gray market, right?
People are trading off platform trading cash off platform and then trading the items in game
That's a lot of the movement this in my opinion
Will not reduce The amount of activity that valve sees
Oh, if anything I suspect I exactly I suspect this will increase valves
Like touch points because you might be more incentivized by a loot box if you're like I can just trade up
I'm not I'm not I'm losing any value because I can just trade up and get something better later
but the The unobtainium of things might have actually scared people off a little bit very interesting very interesting also more
Lower value items. I think Increases the chance that people are going to trade through the valve marketplace
Instead of these off platform marketplaces. So yeah, if anything, I think this is valves just being like we're going to
Change the playing field a little bit and make a lot more money
One knife was sold for about $14,000 just before this update
And it is now valued at about half of that the person who sold that is
stoked while some of the more common items known as
reds Which are used to create these rare items saw an increase in as much as 10 times of the market value that makes sense
This brought the estimated six billion dollar market
what Down to just under
4.3 billion So oh nameless and Floatplane chat says china
Uses it as kind of a pseudo pseudo
financial market investment vehicle because of government limitations on
What they can invest in And they're all running away at the moment because valve disrupted it and that's why it's crashing way harder than it should
Ah, which I thought is an interesting perspective. I don't know much about cs2 skins in china
But it kind of makes sense
Yeah Some people got lucky one reddit user apparently had their worthless inventory skyrocket to about 4.4 million
us dollars
Yeah, and the real winners are valve
Since they get a five percent steam transactions fee and a 10 percent counter strike two fee
Which basically means valve gets a 15 percent cut on any panic buying
and selling
Except from it's done off platform, but yeah, still crazy
Do you think this counts as market manipulation? Uh, no
Seeing as how at any moment valve or or other game companies can profit off from these changes
Yeah, which is why you probably shouldn't use it as a store value
Yeah, these I mean, that's the whole that's the whole thing. That's it's not market manipulation
If it's not a market, it's not supposed to be a market people like if
Like this is like saying this is like calling the lego company a market manipulator if they decide to
reprint a bunch of minifigures like
That's totally within their rights to do you can't
That that's the reason why actual financial markets are regulated or supposed to be
regulated Properly because it it prevents this kind of thing, but like
Yeah, lol inverse says ah, yes magic the gathering exactly like you can't rely on a corporation whose interests are
Completely opposed to your own to behave as some sort of like
weird benevolent Protector of the of the of your little sort of pseudo financial market like that's not that's not how they work
What are you smoking pieces trust me bro guy
I mean Even if we were to go back to the backpack warranty thing it was a completely separate argument
My my argument was That it would be devastating for my brand if I didn't
Take care of things which which it is in my best interest
To take care of things we our interests are aligned while true wasn't wasn't a great argument, but
No, but it's a very true one. Look what happened. Sure. Sure
The negative the negative result of me pointing out
like Literally proved my point luke. That's really funny. Uh euro blue said
Euro blue tagged me and said, what are you smoking if the market shrinks in value?
Uh valve also makes less money. They made it to make knives more accessible
If if transactions ramp like crazy because people think knives are more accessible
Valve will make a bunch of money a lot of these extremely high value transactions were happening off platform
Meaning valve was not getting a cut from it They want more smaller stuff to happen because there's a higher chance that happens on platform
And then they do get a cut from it. Um, also everything i'm saying is speculation
But I think that's what's going on. I I have a pretty strong assumption. That's what's going on
Yeah, yeah, yeah hobbs is saying that uh valve gets 100 on keep purchases to open crates
And if you're more willing to open a crate now because you can see
Value in it because you can just roll upwards Um, then they're they're getting money from the key and as you if you trade skins on platform
They're getting money from that as well. They want to sell keys and they want
Transactions between players to stay on platform as much as possible because then they're pulling 15%
They win when you try to throw your ball and jennifer loves you its mouth they win again
If you Do happen to you know win a few little, you know crappy plastic keychains
They win again if you trade those crappy plastic keychains up for terence and philip dolls
They win again if you sell your terence and philip doll like it's
It's shenanigans, man. It's pure shenanigans. Yeah
Couple people got the reference Maybe but I never had it nice
And now I have one and I'm happy. Thanks valve. Cool, dude
That's totally fine
All right Can I just suggest can I just suggest that if you really want a knife?
Okay, if you want a knife that badly
Okay, you can just head over to kickstarter. Okay. I'm gonna post this link in the chat for you
Okay, you can head over to kickstarter where the hacksmith is selling his incredible 21 and 1 titanium multi tool
Okay um You can you can get it for hold on. Okay. What's what's the lowest pledge that is actually still available?
Uh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Well, no, I don't think they're I don't think they're I don't think they're shipping yet
The point is I don't think you can do any of these Oh
Man, is he Is it because I'm not signed in or is it over?
Whatever the point is find some way to give a real person
Real actual money for a real actual knife. Okay there
That's it. I thought you were gonna troll me with the
With the uh the hammer Then start saving up because it's an expensive knife
You can save up and then when it's available you can buy it. Don't buy it. Don't buy a digital knife
Because this is what happens someday
cs2 might not exist Someday, you know gay men
Or the stewards of valve that he apparently has like kind of worked out so that valve will still be chill as he passes or
Whatever apparently apparently um, but someday
This might not be the way that it is right now
And this is not This is not a good
Sustainable forever thing. Okay
Cool Good chat
Not financial advice Yeah, some people have made incredible amounts of money like a wild amount of money on on cs skins
I find I find anytime it's like tangential stuff like this. Um, I know people that have made
Uh multiple generational fortunes on coins. I know
Uh, not directly, but I know of people
who have made Similar amounts of money on cs skins. Uh, I I saw somebody post like if you invested
I don't know like a thousand dollars in cs skins when they first started being a thing compared to now
You would have like absolutely destroyed the stock market. Um, which is hilarious
Uh, like I don't know, but if you're gonna do those things you need to know what you're doing
You need to be paying a lot of attention. You need to live it and breathe it
You might still get ripped Yep, it's actually more likely that you'll still get ripped, but some people will make it. I don't know
It is what it is. The world is crazy I ain't judging but it's be ready. It's gambling. It's gambling. Yeah
It do be gambling
all right Luke you're sort of in charge because I don't have the schedule
Okay, we're we have 10 minutes to do another topic. We can do
A short one want to do this jet engines used to supplement power for growing ai data centers
Uh, while some us data center operators have been having troubles getting increased grid power allotted
They've turned to Aero derivative gas turbines effectively retired commercial aircraft engines
Bolted into trailers for supplemental power
There are facilities pause. Can we pause for a second?
Aero turbine What a day I saw this satellite that is that is the most ridiculous euphemism
That I think I have ever heard aero derivative
gas turbines They're not aero derivative. You insincere
pieces They are literally they are
Literally Based on the g e cf 6 80c 2 and lm 6000
Literally the turbines used on bowing 767s and airbus 310s. These are
They're they're jet engines From actual jets
They're What are we
What our what timeline are we on now? I have completely lost all ability to follow what is going on in the world
How does this make any sense?
Okay, luke My favorite part is that this might mean
That when when probably a ton of people in the audience asked their version of chat gpt if there was a seahorse emoji
That was powered by jet engines
It literally went burr luke. Yeah
Yeah, exactly It's just at a certain point you just have to laugh man
Like some of the some of this stuff like you're looking at meta and and uh open ai and all these companies releasing these like slop scrolling apps
And those are powered by jet engines like
whoa What are we doing?
What's wrong with us, man It's like everyone's mad at my girl taylor swift for flying around in her private plane
But everybody's basically flying jets all the time
At least she's bringing music to the people
Oh my goodness. Yeah, you're your chat gpt thing just just output
wrong seahorse emojis at least she's like
Uh doing a task and then flying home and then doing a task and then flying home. But anyways, um
The those turbine cores that that lioness mentioned can deliver up to 48 megawatts of power
a piece Okay, we need to make pk7's comment and Floatplane chat a thing
I I need The official new mascot. I'm sorry luke your budgies are out
The WAN Show has a new bird mascot the ability to can
Hey, we're gonna make a bird. We're gonna make a bird and and sometimes so so the bird's gonna be like our it's gonna be our canary
Okay, and whenever something just too ridiculous happens our bird goes away
And I've lost my ability to can I just can't anymore
I like it. I'm serious right now. I want I want this to be a thing. I want the ability to can I think it's pretty
So we need a emoji for that then Because then people can spam it in jet
All right, we're we're gonna need it. We're gonna need it. Yeah
Um, I was okay. Were you surprised at how much power a jet turbine generates like I
Yeah, but I thought I thought by just strapping it to a trailer
Um that there would be a just a wild amount of waste and I'm sure there still is but 48 megawatts is a lot
Uh, yeah Yeah
Yeah They really gotta bolt that thing down. I'm gonna go back to this when you see the supports
Okay, hold on. I haven't I haven't actually looked at the pictures yet. I need to see the pictures
It's pretty nice. I hit me with this hit me with this
Oh my god I don't know if he's reacting to that or oh, okay. Yeah, Luke a real actual engineer was given the task
Okay to build a rig
That prevents a jet engine from doing the one literal thing that it's supposed to do move
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah all also that I can generate you're doing with your life
Also that I can generate an ai video of s-fan pouring milk into a cargo shorts pocket
There's that whole thing about how like civilization basically progresses by its ability to harness more and more power
um Maybe we needed this
Dyson sphere, baby. Yeah, maybe this is maybe this is one continual step towards a Dyson sphere
Fantastic, I just man. Do you know how much it costs like to run one of these engines? Let's see lm 6000
um Like I can I can tell you right now one of those planes would cost potentially, you know 20 grand an hour
in the air I don't know how much of that is the engines and how much of that is other stuff
But like easily the fuel costs like a of an lm 6000 is
2905 us dollars per hour or at least that's what the ai summary overview powered by the jet engine told me
I thought I thought it would make sense If if I use the jet engine powered output
To say what the jet engine took in regards to fuel normally I would skip over that section
The not so bright says imagine the cost of fuel how is this cost effective compared to to diesel engines?
Yeah, like like what how why are we using jet fuel?
Is jet fuel not more expensive than actually? I mean diesel's like diesel's gotten expensive like it was in my lifetime that diesel was cheaper because it's like lower
Great or whatever steel beams to attach it to the trailer and jet fuel can't melt steel beams
So they so they thought it would be structurally sound. Do I dig a 9-11 joke?
I'm gonna do it
A second ding has hit the joke
I'm sorry I can't I can't help myself
Okay, um
Oh my god you guys
No, okay, anyway, apparently jet a is basically kerosene says someone in chat
Um, and it doesn't look that expensive according to the ai overview
The power by judges Is about five dollars and 63 cents a gallon. Oh, what's what's diesel? How much is diesel? I haven't bought diesel in forever
Okay way cheaper
But then I have no idea what the energy density of of diesel and and jet ar and I have no idea what the efficiency of it
I would think a diesel a diesel engine would be the most efficient
Right, but maybe there's a long lead time on large diesel generators
I think there is Like like data center scale ones. I think there is
Yabal rid says jet fuel is not taxed the same and is surprisingly cheap for what it is
Yeah, see that's the whole thing like I like I was I alluded to earlier in my lifetime
Diesel has gone from being like kind of a cheap
byproduct fuel of the gasoline that drives the petroleum the petroleum industry to being
the more to being having the price driven up by demand from
Like like cargo ships and industrial vehicles to the point where even though the diesel is like the lower grade like crappier product
it's It's the it's the more expensive is is race fuel more expensive than jet fuel
I don't know. I don't even know what race fuel is wait people in chat are telling me that jet a is diesel
You got to be kidding me. Yeah, race fuel is apparently significantly more expensive than jet fuel
that's that's Well, race fuel is super pure or something, right? I'm not I'm not a fuel expert guys at all. I just find it kind of interesting that
Uh, race fuel is lead. Oh, wow
Yeah, no, it's just super super high octane
Oh interesting. Casper Explorer says diesel is not crappy
And Dan likes says it contains more energy than gasoline
I've thought that about diesel to be honest. I thought it contained more energy than gasoline diesel needs to be compressed
not ignited And yeah, jet a needs something volatile because it's got the the burnery things that
ignite it And I would expect a power out of AI overview. Here we go. We're only using AI for the rest of this topic
Turn the jet engines. We have to power the jet fuel and diesel are both kerosene based distillates, but
Differ in additives sulfur content and performance characteristics
Jet fuel has less lubricity and higher sulfur content making it unsuitable for modern diesel engines
Which require lubricity additives and have low sulfur requirements
Conversely, diesel fuel is oilier has a higher freezing point than some jet fuels and is not ideal for jet engines
Okay nice
Good to we should find ways to
Work them harder. We should just we should just keep AI searching things the whole show
Oh my god I love this so much. Oh my god. I'm posting this in chat Dan if you want to switch this over
In the meantime brice 21 13 says my brother works for one of leading providers of data center and hospital generators
They're diesel and they take at least a year to get the major players get priority
And they're shipped to them by the dozens But human labor can only go so fast and there's limited skilled talent these days also keep in mind
They're usually sold as entire enclosures transit is difficult too since they're massive. Yeah, we saw these
when we did the the tour at
Equinix they had their whole diesel generator room and they they they're just
Huge and yes a jet engine is huge, but these diesel generators are absolutely enormous
So it makes sense that if you're just desperate for power right now and you're in this this AI development arms race
That is just a money a money printing and money burning machine at the same time
um A circular money jerk of sorts then it makes sense that you would just be looking for whatever is the fastest
Way to get more power and what could be faster than a jet engine? Yeah
All right Dan, do you want to throw that on screen?
Building sevens fall rate, um explain cw announced it explained two merge messages
Oh, what no, I want to see the thing first. I'm just saying that's what's next. You don't have to do it this second
Oh, I see I see I see I think we were supposed to buy them time though. Aren't we Dan? Have you heard from them?
What no what what you wanted something in chat here Dan?
I I yeah, yeah, I posted a link in chat
Oh, you wanted me to show that Yeah
The aviation thing Yeah, oh, okay. I just shared it in the other chats my bad
One moment. Yeah Yeah, throw it throw it out throw it out. It's funny. It's hilarious
Um, don't even know if I can do it be I can share it. I got it. I don't know. Can you here we go? I'm done
There it is very funny. This is awesome
Getting it done you'll love to see it
That's pretty sick
I I'm sure it's right, but it looks so wrong. Oh, yeah. Yeah
Raiden 428 in chat says hey Linus. Maybe go visit marine turbo dot com
Luke do you want to fire that up? Sure on a special super interesting
something As a biker you might like their 273 mile per hour helicopter turbine powered bike
There's a whole industry around timed out aviation engines
Marine turbo dot com maybe dot us
No dot com. I don't think is a thing
Power generation airbo airboats and special
Projects I'm on the site right now It was linked by raiden 428
MTT commissions its latest monster airboat configuration
Do you mean dot code are you k?
I mean exactly what I'm saying marine turbo dot com
Raiden 428 has it in the chat
So marine turbine turbine turbine, she's dude. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry my bad. My bad. Okay. I will share it now
Nice Sorry guys
Listen, I am very many time zones off and it is very early in the morning
Which means that it is the evening and my brain should be functioning correctly
And yet it's not I was like, bro. This is definitely not a website. I don't know what you're talking about
I don't even understand. I don't know what we're looking at. I'm looking at what are we looking at so
Go to uh go to okay Yeah, I
What? An adrenaline rush like none other on the planet
turbine motorcycles if you go to um
Fifi airboats and special projects and click on airboats and workboats
There's what looks like a giant hovercraft to carry excavators
What that's sick, I don't know cool
Imagine this being your business basically red neck and red neck engineering for a living
If you're gonna embed it like that just link it on youtube or something that sucks that these are gone. Oh, this one's here
I mean sure
Yeah, I mean those aren't those aren't jet engines or anything but still
Big old turbines those aren't jet engines or anything but dude that thing's big old turbines
All right, well anyway, uh, we can move on didn't expect we'd be pulling that up today
Okay, uh cws Dan are they ready or should we buy them time?
Or have they messaged you seems to be updated nice. All right cw announced. Uh, no it doesn't what are you talking about?
All right, you got rid of the line Uh, oh, but weren't we supposed to buy them time so they could put it back?
And didn't they remove it just in case Can you check on that? Can you message the guy and we can do a topic real quick? Okay nice, um
Sam song launched the first Android xr headset
After nearly a year since google initially revealed their operating system for headsets samsung's samsung's
Galaxy xr is the first mixed reality headset powered by Android xr for 1800
U. S dollars half of the apple vision pro that's terrifying
The galaxy xr sports the new snapdragon xr2 plus gen 2 chip micro OLED display
Full hand and eye tracking 256 gs of storage and camera enabled a. I
The goal of galaxy xr's integration with a i is to be more proactive in situations that require awareness of our apps
And what we're seeing in the real world simultaneously
Uh, google's samir samat did mention that you can choose which apps are visible to a i
Which is relatively important unless it decides to look at other ones
And also for now like Linus said Uh, the ui ux reportedly looks very similar to both the apple vision pro and the meta quest which makes complete sense to be honest
cnet, uh, there's an image of the
ui on a demo kate that is very generic and normal and kind of boring and
Bubbly, okay sounds good Um
While you can access would you want something super No, not not for that screen not particularly. It just is what it is. Uh while you can access a chrome browser
Yeah, everything's going to the bubbliness now that I don't know how I feel about like youtube controls are all bubbly now
Oh, dude, right? I feel like we're doing the equal but opposite move of the Windows 8
Everything no matter what has to be a square Now it's like everything no matter what has to be a bubble and it's like
We didn't need either of these. We could have just chilled out in the middle and that would have been totally fine forever
Thank you very much. Anyways That's not how trendiness works. Unfortunately. You are very correct
While you can access any app from google play out of the box google reworked apps like maps youtube and more specifically for xr
For example, but not their own For
For example google photos you can turn your existing library of 2d photos into 3d. So you can step into your memories
Uh sounds like a black mirror. There is the comment left and I don't entirely disagree
Uh, but not quite yet sounds kind of cool though. It does sound pretty neat. I would definitely try that with a couple
Uh google also ensured support for open xr web xr and unity. So there will be uh
More new apps and experiences to come in the future samsung coo
Won ju choy did mention that they aren't aiming to replace smartphones with the release of new xr tech
But he believes they will complement and provide experiences people wouldn't have gotten with smartphones
Well, i'm really glad he wasn't intending to replace smartphones because that was never going to happen
well, okay With this release that was never going to happen
Um in the very long term. Do you think smart glasses have a shot? Sure. I've been wearing
Um meta the clear the clear metaglasses. Which one is i super do? I don't think these ones do
Well, that's not gonna happen Yeah, so yeah, the he's been wearing the oakley. Um transparent ones. Yeah on this trip and
He commented last night that
He's like really impressed with them so far and I was like, oh, yeah, how come and he goes
I've been using them all day. I've been wearing them all day and uh, I got back to the hotel room just now
They were at like 30 battery. I popped them on the charger and in just like a few minutes
They were charged back up and now my battery life's great
And this is like right before we went out for dinner and I was like, okay
But like other than Being powered
Yeah What have you done with them and he's like, oh man, like I can use them
I can ask meta to do currency conversion for me
And I was like, I've been with you all day. You did that one time and it would have been just as fast
You literally keep your phone in your chest pocket. Like it would have been just as fast to use your phone. He's like, ah, but
This is cooler But he's he's a trendy guy though
He is no, no, I need to be clear to be clear. No, but what I'm saying is if he likes them
They might take off to be clear He's also taken the piss a little bit, but he also pointed out that he used them to listen to music
um When we were on the when we were in a shuttle
And I was like, yes, I noticed that arty's in chat going they're great as discrete headphones lull
Arty I can I'm sad to be the one who has to inform you that they're not that discreet
I was able to clearly hear everything that charade was listening to
Um, so make of that what you will if you're comfortable with people hearing what you're listening to that's totally fine
It wasn't super obnoxious. It wasn't any worse than like an open back headphone or anything like that, but no very much
very much listenable So yeah, he used them as headphones and as
um and as uh
A currency conversion one time And and to check a currency conversion
um He also did discreetly take a picture when people didn't realize he was taking a picture
So he took a picture of us having a group picture taken of us and it was funny because
One of the brands that we worked with while we were here had
They asked us if they could do like a behind the scenes
Of our video shoot for their own their own channels and we were like, oh, yeah, that
Kind of sounds okay
Like it's going to be pretty small right they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah They had a crew of I kid you not it was felt like 10 people
Falling following us around the whole day. So this like picture that they're taking
Sherrod has a picture of the giant crew that was taking the picture. So it's just it's so it's pretty funny
That's kind of cool. Actually. Okay, already. I know you love your metaglasses. I'm not saying they're completely useless
He points out they're amazing for recording roller coaster POVs
I'm not saying they don't have any use. I'm just saying
Clearly we are very very far away from replacing a smartphone and honestly luke. I don't know if ever
It is just Not more efficient to use natural language instruction compared to tapping on a screen for a lot of things
Like this is kind of like that. I can't say ever though recently where ever is going to be incorrect for sure
You're definitely wrong. I can I can't say ever. Hold on and I'm I'm gonna say ever
I'm Give me a second. Okay, because we we recently had this conversation yet again when some
Microsoft executive said that the keyboard and mouse was going away and we're like, no, it's not
Because it's just always going to be faster to move something this far. Wait
To move something this far And have that translated to something this far on a screen
Then moving your whole hand that far literally by definition
That will always be faster. That's not the argument in the same
And it so it well the argument is that you won't need the other thing anymore
Right. Yeah, and there is always going to be okay. Tell tell me this. Tell me this
Let's use let's use a use case That tech companies love to use because the people who work on their use case
Examples and the people who work on these presentations have money to travel
So they're always talking about travel even though most people don't travel and certainly don't travel regularly
Okay, let's talk about travel You are researching flights
On your screen whether that screen is attached to your eye holes or attached to your pocket computer or attached to your laptop or desktop
There are some flight options What will always be the fastest way to select the one
that you want Are you talking with what device?
Or physically how I would do it Clicking on it. I don't know
eye tracking could Get us there
But we're always going to have to have a way to indicate that that because we can't just have things randomly click on when we look at
Yes, you need to select so there's always there's always going to have to be a gesture
Or an eye blink or a or a neural
Thing that we're going to have to train ourselves to do like there's going to have there's going to have to be
Something and in that time it will always have been faster
to move my finger And go like this always
I don't think so. So that's that's the point. Well, how will it be faster? That's that's my question neural links like you were mentioning
not eye tracking Because like you said the the confirmation of input is the issue with eye tracking
I mean you confirmation of input is yeah, the nea was from freaking ocz and like 20 years ago
I get it and you're saying ever so if we're talking
A hundred years in the future. You think we're still going to be using computer mice
Yeah, I actually yeah, I think so a hundred years
Dude, Japan still Japan is phasing out floppy disks. We're not talking about Japan
No, we're not talking about Japan. Japan will absolutely still be using computer mice
Okay, that was a very bad Japan might be using fax machines a hundred years from now
That was a bad faith argument
But I think I know and and we technically you're saying forever
So it could be 700 years from now if uh if the earth still exists
And we haven't nuked humanity into nonexistence. Um, I I think at some point in time
the Computing as a whole will dramatically change and I think it's going to be because
Neural input and output is going to be a very wild thing. I do not think we are even sort of close
I don't I don't know if we're going to see that in our lifetimes But saying forever is crazy. I think there's there's no way we see that in our lifetime
man, like I'm like I'm trying to think of what the like what would be the infrastructure
involved in
Neural interfaces that are so ubiquitous that you could
You could make a good faith argument that we have moved on from from tapping on things from from using our hands
from using these
Multi-million-year evolutionary marvels
Oh, it's gonna get weird. Maybe this is maybe this is my lack of imagination, right?
But I'm having a hard time imagining a technology that would allow us to non-invasively
read the mind So it'll be invasively for sure
So if it's going to be invasive I'm having a hard time imagining with people aren't going to do it
No, no, I'm not saying people won't do it. I'm just saying that we are we're squishy
and imperfect And messy and we're all a little different
And I'm having a hard time imagining something that is
commodity enough to invasively be
Implanted in the mind that will work that will stay functional over the span of like like aging and and injury and sickness and all the things
That happen in our messy messy messy bodies
I um
Yeah, I don't know man. It's gonna be it's gonna be pretty wild
When bingo says uh eye tracking and then training everybody to wiggle their ears from a young age
Ear wiggle it could be a great click method for smart glasses
Ear wiggles Yeah
Dragon tamer says the neuro link input guy has talked about not missing in games. He doesn't miss. I mean look
I I I'd be I'd be excited for neural inputs to get super good and super affordable. I just
I don't know dude It's gonna be
I have a hard time imagine it being relaxing maybe that's maybe that's what i'm getting kind of hung up on
So give us so give us uh Just a little bit. Just give us a little bit. Give us like uh
600-ish years We'll figure it out
The printing press was like pretty cool today mindblowing like like you wouldn't have conceived of the printing press as like a person who wasn't
Trying to invent it
Maybe part of my problem is i'm just a little pessimistic right now
I think it's easy to be like I'm glad you brought up the printing press because I don't know if you know this but like western literacy rates are falling at an alarming rate
Oh, yeah, right now. Yeah And so like i'm sitting here going
Okay, let's say we do figure this out a device that
we put on in the morning and it has like a
Like a wireless it has a wireless charging interface on one side and just uses our body heat for power
So we don't have to worry about batteries and then it has like a
Um like a close proximity high-speed data link on the other side that interfaces with like a brain
Wiring thing that's you know set up inside our mind or whatever. Yeah, so we so we put on this thing or let's go even
Let's go even further to the to the hypothetical future and let's say they're they're contact lenses or or whatever
I'll talk about that Yeah, so
I Do what?
I scroll Generated slot videos. This is are literally created by tapping into
My own subconscious mind to give me a drip feed of whatever it is that I most want to see and experience in the entire world
and I just Sit there in my chair. Is this really?
Am I am I getting have I reached old man yells at cloud this future doesn't look like the future. Can we stop now?
That doesn't mean you're right about keyboards
Dude, I don't know like I don't think you're wrong, but you can definitely scroll with a neural interface
Oh, yeah, no, no This is what people want
Yeah, with the yeah, oh god. Yeah, I mean
Oh lordy the yeah
Oh, my brain hurts, um
Yeah, I man can you imagine when they figure out how to tap into the part of your brain that lucid dreams
And you can just press you can just open up the lucid dream app on your frickin neural interface thing and you can just like
Start lucid dreaming
You can uh dream about holodeck dream about but that's gonna be the way to do it
Arby's yeah, I know I do it with brain drugs new new burger on available stores coming soon
From I don't even think they'll need to just inject advertisements right into your lucid dreams. Oh, yeah. Yeah
Like have you ever dreamt of a phone Linus? Have you ever had a phone in one of your dreams?
Have you heard about this? We could just have Have I ever had a phone in a dream? Have you heard about this idea? Yeah, I have yeah
I don't think I have you have is really interesting. You're the first person I've ever asked that to that has said yes
Yeah, I had I had a dream once that um that the office was like invaded
And so I was using my phone to type like security code words and stuff
interesting Yeah
I just needed it So it's it's like it's it's very much the same reason that I have a phone in real life
That I have a phone in my dream because I need to do stuff with it Yeah
Yeah, sorry, I wish it was a more interesting answer. Um
It's interesting that it's as a tool though So that that might make a little bit more sense. I would I never I was not using it. I wasn't like like recreation
Using it. I don't think I've ever dreamed Of recreationally playing a video game. I don't think I've ever dreamed of recreationally
Recreationally using my phone For sure. No
Dude, I can't wait until the apps on your freaking smart glasses are just things like
Lucid dream now and just like dopamine hit now
Because it's all just gonna be it's all just gonna be wired up and it's gonna give you like an electrical impulse in your brain
and you can just be like It's freaking it's gonna be like opioid addiction
On steroids and on opium. You'll just be like dopamine. Dope into dope into dope into like faster than you
Can think it you'll be able to just like hit the dopamine button
Dude, this is gonna be wild and then they're gonna monetize it
Yep Yep
Every WAN Show it's amazing how we reach a new level of this is all just gonna be dystopia
Blundetto says just press the nut button
They're gonna make special underwear Yeah, for sure. Definitely. We're gonna we're gonna have man pads
I think it'll just auto evacuate
All right, uh Should we do the cw announcement?
Do you want me to do it I can do it uh Yeah, just introducing I can do it if you want to put up the screen cap sure
Or the screen I got you. Sorry. I'm I'm sad right now. You're good. I still don't see it in the collection Dan
Oh god, I thought you said it's there What do you mean?
the thing good I have no idea what they're talking about right now. So I'm just gonna
Sit here and
Um stall for time
I checked the global one and it's there. I checked the us one and it's not there. That's what it says in the note
I think you guys are talking about the desk pad. I didn't check the note. I didn't know it was only in one of them
Okay, I found it. We're good Introducing the glitch collection. We've got three new items launching on LTT Store today including
The glitch t-shirt featuring a unique hem pattern at the bottom of the shirt
I That's an
That's that's a very boring description for basically lisa did a cool design that was
sort of inspired by like a like a smashed broken lcd panel with the
Oh, like with the yeah, that is really cool
yeah so
It's supposed to be a little bit of smash broken panel a little bit of like GPU memory artifacting
um, and it's it's just meant to to kind of
You know inspire memories of push that overclock too hard or uh dropped my laptop, you know
I think it's awesome. I think it's the like The me saying this is gonna immediately make it not that so i'm sorry, but I think it's like kind of the swaggiest shirt we've
released I think it's like actually just raw cool. It just looks cool
And like so many of our designs over the years
It's meant to be like if you know, you know
tech inspired Yeah, just genuinely cool and you can actually wear it. There is no logo, is there?
Uh, I there's one inside the
Inside the back of the nape of the neck. Yeah, I mean like uh
Visible on the outside of the shirt Yeah, I mean we've we've taken a pretty light branding approach for
Many years now. I think I can say multiple multiple years now
And it's it's always baffling to me when people say I love the LTT Store stuff
But there's just too much branding on it's like bro. You got no idea what branding looks like
We're pretty we take a pretty light touch when it comes to branding. I don't think this one has a logo on it
I don't think so. I think it looks really cool though We also have a lenticular pin that changes depending on where you view it from as part of the glitch collection
And we've got this design on a brand new desk pad. The desk pad is on the global site now
So that's canada plus worldwide and will be available on the us site shortly
They just haven't arrived at our us warehouse yet So if you're from the us and you want to purchase a glitch desk pad
Maybe hold off on your purchase until they are available shop now at LMG.gg
Slash glitch
I actually kind of wonder if this is one of those cases where we should have just set up back orders
I didn't I haven't been in town. So I didn't really have a chance to talk to the team about it in general
I'm very opposed to pre-orders and back orders, but if it's something where it's just like, yeah, the truck is like
10 blocks away Then maybe I don't know. Yeah, the trade situation with us did literally just change. So
Is there another one
What is it now within the last I think 24 hours, uh, trump said trade talks are off with canada
Why uh, he's he's a fentanyl again
No, he's saying it's because an advertisement that was being ran inside of canada by
Some level of government saying that tariffs are bad
But a lot of the speculation that I'm seeing is that it's actually because
Canada's and trade talks with china right now about strengthening our trade relations
Oh, we should keep doing that Yeah, uh
Merch messages you want to explain it and I'll try to be the guide
Um Or I can't I just thought it would be funny to do it this way
If you guys, uh
If you guys want to, uh Interact with the show
We don't want you to just throw money at the screen because we think that when you throw money at your screen
You should get quality merchandise in return instead of just an acknowledgement from a streamer or whatever. I actually thought
Oh crap. I'm gonna get it wrong. It was it was one of the it was one of the like
Like no life reaction to everything streamers. I can't remember which one but someone someone recently
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was one of them. I'm I'm so what did he do? What did they do?
Basically, they were like, hey, yeah, don't donate to me. I'm rich enough and I thought that was super cool. Was that was that moist?
Uh, didn't that happen a while ago?
I think he's done it multiple times. Yeah, apparently it was moist critical. Yeah, cool
It was recently regarding the whole youtube members only content thing when we turned off our members only content
um Anyway, the point is uh, yeah, he was he was like, yeah, don't don't donate to me
You shouldn't be donating to me. We have felt that way
For a very very very long time, which is why we created merch messages
So instead of instead of donating, um, you should just like get high quality merchandise
If you want to support the show obviously that's not as profitable for us as just
Taking your money But we take pride in what the creator warehouse team creates like the glitch desk pad that you guys are looking at right there
And we think that we make quality products that last a long time
And we think it's just a way cooler healthier way for us to to to grow and to support our team
And also for you guys to get great high quality products
So all you got to do to send a merch message To interact with the show is add something to your cart on lttstore.com when we're live
You're going to see a little box that's going to give you an opportunity to fill out your merch message
That'll go to producer Dan Hey, there he is
You can pick your color for your merch message You can anonymize your name or you can have your name show up and then Dan will either
Pop it up on the screen with like a little acknowledgement. You could be like, hey, what's up mom? How you doing jerry?
Or you can Ask a question and if your question
Is something that Dan can answer or even if it's something that he can't he might just you know?
Reply to you and say something irrelevant or he might answer it
Or he might forward it to someone who can get back to you or he might curate it
And then it'll go to me and luke and we will talk about your merch message
That's right, we've got a few in already
We've got a couple here. Oh, also if you allow your email to be shared
Then I can also send you over to support if you have something that might be relevant for our team to follow up with
Um got one here from jonathan. Hey dlo love. No, it is not luke and I sorry. Hold on
We're having an argument about grammar. Oh, I love semantics
The way to tell if it's luke and I or me and luke is which one of those words would have applied properly to you
So if you remove the other party for the sentence because I went to the store
Dan Is really mean to me and luke because Dan is really mean to me
It's that easy and nobody knows that which is like crazy because
Like when I was in school, nobody ever explained that to me. I had to figure that out on my own
I was like, how do I figure out these rules? And I like I kind of like came up with that and then I looked it up and it was like that's totally a thing
But no teacher ever explained that to me which drove me crazy
So knowing how easy it is It drives me even more nuts when people do it wrong because it's actually that easy
Isn't that crazy Anyway, sorry Dan go ahead hit chat trying to
Grammar nazi the grammar nazi is is a is a battle to behold me fail english. That's impossible
Um, hey deal. I love the show question for Linus. How is the LTT bitcase coming along?
Oh good. Yeah, I've got one with me right now
uh, oh, I am tethered
But I mean they've seen it on the show before you have showed it off a couple times. Yeah, but not everyone has
You assume everyone watches every video. They do every single person does every way show viewer comes back every week
Because the ones that I interact with are full-plate chat and a lot of them actually do
I mean to tell me people don't watch every week Okay
What is he's just we've we've seen it like so many times
He didn't need to go I want to show people my travel loadout. Oh cool. Okay. That's kind of neat
All right, that adds a spin to it. Yeah, he's okay with it. This is my this is my way of carrying
Everything that I need when I'm traveling without having anything that looks too suspicious
So in my in one bag because I'll usually have my my roller bag
Like my carry-on size roller bag and then I'll have a personal item. I'll have a backpack. So in one bag
I will keep um, my stubby screwdriver
So this is well under the limit of every
Customs and security authority that I have ever encountered
I think I figured out what you're going with this In there. Okay, then I'll carry my my LTT bitcase. I lost one. So, uh, cw made me a new one that
Has my name printed on it. Thank you cw. Appreciate you. I think it was probably tying in
And then I've got all the bits that I will generally need in there that are not part of like the standard bit set
So I got my torques. I've got my imperial hex my metric hex and then I have a couple specialty ones
This is kind of my my loadout for this
So I keep those together and then separately in my other bag. I will keep a shaft extension. So then I can
Convert my stubby screwdriver into
So you could still use the knurling and everything and then I've got my bit set because I could see getting a precision set
Taken just because it's so obviously extremely sharp and pointy and like
It just looks really weird in the scanner But this and this alone without the shaft extension is just like yeah, it's a little it's a short tool
Which you're allowed to have and then the shaft extension on its own
Is nothing. It's just a metal It's a metal second. You were like I put the stubby in this bag. I was like, I know exactly what he's doing
Yeah, so this is this is my travel kit. That's fantastic that I can
Uh, yeah, it it's in derastric says I had an iFixit screwdriver taken in sydney that doesn't surprise me at all
whereas This and to be clear. This is not advice. I'm not this is not advice
If you take your stubby screwdriver and all if all your stuff gets taken. I'm not liable. I'm not responsible
It's always kind of up to them So I have not had trouble with this in the past
But you never know when you're going to run into a tsa agent who's having a bad day or whatever
And at the end of the day, it's it's their judgment call. So
um I've had good luck with it, but
Your mileage may vary I forget what the question was. Did I answer it bit when when when arriving big case?
Oh, oh, oh, okay. Why don't you move on to the next one while I look that up then
Okay, sure. How are you gentlemen?
Uh, it's not a question. It's just got exclamation points. Don't answer. I lost your base are belong to us
Ever I lost a bunch. No way to survive make your time
I can't handle this man. You have no chance to survive damn
Nearly I lost a bunch of weight this year and I'm reloading on newer smaller shirts
Are any of you working on any long-term personal goals right now? And if so, how are those going?
My house not BMS. That's the only thing. Sorry Dan. Nope. Nope. We're not able to talk about that yet
I didn't think so. That is not that is not nearly as important as this Dan. You need to show this to the stream
I will ask no questions. This is tremendously important. Give me one second
Come on. Come on. There we go. Uh, okay. Is everybody ready?
Look, are you ready? So I look so I don't know Luke
Surability to Ken has already been created by the illustrious sarabot. Oh, he's so cute
Apparently she was watching. Oh my god. How is this possible?
It's so adorable whoop Her her message to me simply says
Uh, hold on. Let me see if I can find this. Yeah, here we go. Uh
He lives here. I don't know why but he feels like he needs a top hat
That's awesome. There we go. It could be our friend for the show
Okay, I'm sorry, uh, Dan you were saying uh, you're doing any long-term goals
Uh, oh, right. Sorry. Yes, Luke. I'd love to hear your long-term goals
No, just my house not being screwed up. I I haven't been doing like anything else. I've been going to work and working on that
so I don't know and then once I don't know it for the first half of november
I'm just gone again So like I've been out of the gym for a long time, but I've been doing physical things
So I've been working on the house. So like I don't know I feel mostly okay
But I'll get back on the wagon when my house is not completely screwed and I am in the country those things are
decently important sometimes I do work out on the road, but it's kind of hard to find
some gyms are really expensive for drop-in and
Usually I'm really busy with whatever reason I'm on the road for so
Yeah I can't remember if Linus answered. Sorry. I'm he did not
I haven't I actually have a dock. This is my this is my like
Everything from my ADD brain dump dock
It's like 17 pages of just wall of text of like random business ideas
I've had over the years sometimes. It's just like like a line that I'm like
That'd be funny. That would be funny like I uh, oh man
Do I still? Uh, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I have a section called script ideas that I never really like ended up
using it using but I had these I have these two funny things that I never remember because I never really use it
I only remember it when I'm not actually writing, but I had these I have these two ideas in here
Um, so I have this one trying to do something by scowling at it
and then scowling at it harder with like
With like a hat on or something. I don't know but it'd be funny like uh, like basically okay. Look, it's a it's a it's a
It's only partially baked. Okay. The point is that like
It sounds like a funny Yeah, right like I was trying to I was trying to get my I was trying to get my my iphone
Uh transfer wizard to work properly. Uh, apple wasn't helpful. So I tried like scowling at it
That didn't work. So I scowled at it harder and unfortunately that didn't work either
So all my messages are still on my Android phone. Like that's how I would kind of
What is he called how I would integrate what's what's the two cans name Linus?
Yeah, yeah ability to can ability to but I think with his distinguished top hat
He needs to be sir ability to can sir ability to can yeah, and whenever I can't anymore
I lose him now. He's on the hand. He's yeah, he's pretty sure in your hand. I like that
Yeah, sir ability to can Um, do you have any other examples from your doc?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Okay, so oldest video idea hold on. Hold on. I got another I got another joke. I got another joke idea
I need to joke about how
Um, like some color Like it like it's like an RGB joke
Like a joke about how this this color needs more r and more b to be the right color
Like I'm playing around with like a slider and then like r and b music starts playing
Oh, that's excellent. Or like I take away all the g and then just like music turns on like just
Oh, if you take away if it's rap music, can you take a while to g and it stops being rap music?
I actually kind of like that Oh, so I don't know man like this. It's just like it's my doc
I already dinged it. I think oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, he dinged it. He dinged it
Um, so I do I do oh, so you want an old video idea? Okay. No the video idea doc is a different doc
I think oh, I might have purged it. Oh, no. No, I still have it. Oh dude. I still have it
Um, oh my god. This is a terrible idea entire here's the luke
Here's the luke section of video ideas. I knew I had seen this doc
No Oh, no, this is old
Yeah, pizza warmer pc part two is in here. So I can delete that we've done that now. Nice
Uh, let's get rid of that and then I've got
771 to 775 sticker conversion So that idea is obviously old enough that wanting to use an lga 775 processor was valid
Uh, ultimate gamer pc with a ps4 xbox one in a we you inside. We've done it now. I can delete that
Yeah, dude. Wow. We've actually like done some of this stuff. Um, here's one that is a terrible idea
fireplace mod put a tv
In an old fireplace with speakers and play the LTT yule log video
Why would we do that? Why would I even write that down?
That's an entire video that sounds like a me yeah, that's the whole video idea. Yeah, it sounds cool. I like that
It sounds like it'd be easy to shoot too. Yeah
What computer out of one inch blocks?
What does that even mean? Is that the whole title one inch blocks?
Yeah, I don't know what that means one inch. I have one that says ready for vr
I have like six r's is bull spit
Uh, remember that vr ready badge? Yeah, okay. So that was a very timely thing as well. That's gone now
I Mac mod this just says I mac mod. Okay. No, that makes sense. It says balls to the wall web server
That I bet you that was probably we were trying to get something for flow plane. That's my guess. Oh probably. Yeah
It's a link to my inbox. So I'm clicking and I think it's pulling this off of tape
Um
Balls to the wall web server. I don't know what I don't know what any of this is. Okay, forget it. This is garbage
Uh Some of this we could still do full screen versus borderless window input legs slash FPS
That was from a that's still not a bad idea
That's still not a bad idea. Yeah Because you know what we could do fan filters affect airflow. That's another good one from alex 91 underscore cy
Do you know about the latency introducer box thing the Labs has I do I do what if we
Figure it out. I don't think we've talked about that input leg gap between windowed and borderless
And then forced the windowed one
Sorry forced the yeah windowed mode on borderless
Uh figured out that gap and then forced it with the input box and then tried to see if people could tell
Can you tell the difference between windowed mode and borderless?
Uh, I think I can tell you the answer to that already. I don't think people will be a lot of people think they can though
Interesting well, okay, but but part of why a lot of people think they can might be because
The implementation on some games was really bad. Like I think it was csgo that if you were in
Borderless and then you alt tabbed and went back in the game It was trash and we found this out because we were doing something and it was a problem for us
Um, because normally you wouldn't alt tab out of your full screen video game and then go back into it
But like that's fixed now. So I don't know
There might be some games where it's still a problem, but I sincerely doubt that it's most of them
Okay, keep going what else we got uh, oh
No, oh, yeah more more video ideas from him not topics for you Dan
Sure, um Oh, dude the usbc versus micro b durability test is under james
We made that video that was one of the first videos he worked on
So the last time I used my to-do list for your guys's video ideas was probably when I did
That wave of hiring when we hired emily james and alex that makes sense
We actually did some of the alex ones too ultimate air cooled pc giant industrial fan thing. We did it
Actual single slot mod with hacked off stock cooler and remounted 120 millimeter fan. We did that too
That's crazy. That is crazy
Make a heat sink for like ten dollars with a hacksaw on a chunk of metal bench against a stock cooler. We did that too
Yeah, so unlike luke alex actually like did all the work that was assigned to him before
He wasn't working here anymore. I guess he's still got time though
I did a ton of it There's things we removed off the dock because they were done
my goodness because I Someone else did it jordan did your pizza warming pc
I could have done that if you wanted I'll do version three
And I'll make it worse Yeah, I was gonna say
I dx12 and vulcan was on that dock. I'm pretty sure and it just got done. So it was removed off
Oh, no, that was on a different dock. We had a we I created a different dock later. This one's older
Um Oh, okay. So right right, right. I remember how we got on this subject
I was supposed to talk about goals. So this is where I put goals
So one of my goals is to fix my calendars
Um, my calendars are a mess. I have like a billion calendars. And then do you remember that sponsored video we did on that?
Um, that like conference room booking tablet thing. Yes, actually anyone remember this? Yes, I do. Yeah
So some of as part of that video one of my calendars got
Exposed publicly and so for years I had just like spam events that would pop up on my phone because the calendar was like
Bound to a work account that was shared to my other account and then my personal account was that I could I
It took me a while to figure out like how they were all intertwined
Um, and they're still kind of messed up my calendar my calendars are kind of a mess. So I need to fix my calendars
Why don't you just you have a person for this? Um
Yeah, I am probably you're the worst at using an
assistant Yes
That is exactly what I was about to say
Because if it's really easy I might as well do it and if it's hard I need to do it
So I just end up in a my flow chart is like no matter what screw it. I'll just do it
Oh, man To be clear. I this is not a knock against vance. Vance is awesome. Um
He he actually does a lot for me, but just not that
Like like travel for instance like vance checks me into all my flights dude. He's getting fast. So like
Not the check is so he has Oh like bookings and stuff. Yeah
We worked through something this week and it was zooming
That might be why Um, but but yeah, like like he he he definitely like helps me with with very useful stuff
Or just like if I'm if I'm like, oh crap. I need to follow up on that
I'll be like vance. Can you follow up on that? He'll he'll get it. He'll get it. He'll get it going for me
Um, so yeah, like it's great, but no, I'm I'm not good at
Delegating. Oh, I have fixed my kid's password managers
I need to do that. My kids still don't have password managers and they're like
Making their way into their teens at this point and it is becoming a problem, especially because
Um, one of my kids has a password manager So we've been really inconsistent about where the other kids passwords go
Sometimes they're in my password manager. Sometimes there are any bonds and sometimes they're in my eldests and
There's no consistency there. So we need to kind of deal with all that and we're not even all using the same password manager
So just sharing folders is not Straightforward either. You have the thing now though, right? I know I know but it's that's what I'm telling you
It's on my list to to deal with
Vance could do that too For my goals, I have right counting computers. That's at the top of my goals
So that's supposed to be the follow-up to the abc's of gaming
Which came out Five years ago
So I haven't done that nice, um, not jesus says you're truly the
Perfect example of a dude with adhd desperately in need of an assistant, but utterly incapable of utilizing one
Yes, yeah pretty much, um
Yeah Oh, I have have my eldest daughter drill something
We were at a family event and using a drill came up and she was like, I don't like drills. So that's something we need to get over
um I decided very early on in parenting that no daughter of mine will not be able to throw a ball properly or
Be able to drill a hole in a wall properly and use basic tools. That's just not acceptable
We I thought this might happen. We apparently used to just email each other
Like I found an email thread from 2014 where we're just
You're just like spamming emails like you you emailed me just the word free nas
The the thread is the thread is just called tasks and then you just emailed me free nas
So the first email is voiceover guide for diyAA
node 804 case
To the pf sense router guide overclocking guide preparation fix up our cabling situation here
um By extension cords wall mount power bars, etc
And then you responded to that one just saying free nas and then you responded to that one just saying when show set
And then you started to that one saying calendar spot for ball pit
And then I responded saying notes for myself find new ad partner for the forum
And no, I have no idea what calendar spot for ball pit means
So this explains why I got an email from Linus with just a picture and for when show on it
Oh, yeah, how you guys operate. Yeah, all right. That makes so much more sense. Everybody gets a pass
I mean email is just text messaging pretty much
Except it's less likely to get lost Oh
shoot Osiris in the chat says when is the big case coming out Linus?
Yeah, I searched for cw in my in my inbox and then I meant to
Actually click on any of the things that come up. Okay. This is from the weekly cw huddle october 21st
meeting NPIs or new product introductions
Let's see on 10 24. We will be introducing
The glitch t-shirt glitch desk pad and glitch pins
I guess you guys knew that already available now lttstore.com. Okay. What else we got here?
Thermochromic jacket something something
npi december
Uh is apparently going to be the bit case
so It is it is uh, it is green in the finalized launch date thing
So i'm pretty sure yeah, i'm pretty sure it should come in december sometime
But nothing is launched until it is actually launched as we know very well from our mod mat
Okay, what are we supposed to be doing?
I just I found uh
That was really random. I found my will Which was apparently in my work email
I was trying to find tasks And uh, yeah, that was uh, that was an interesting read. That's pretty old. Um, surprisingly still relevant
No, why would I give you? How'd I give you things?
You don't need anything. Let me see just in case. Well, it's not just about stuff. Isn't it?
It's about sharing bird and minus
What is it?
Pugboy says okay, but do the birds get anything? Oh wait actually
You are in it, but it's not about stuff
But is it is it mean? No, tell him I always hated him. No, it's not it's not mean
Tell me oh my god
Honestly, I would laugh I would actually think it's pretty funny
I My whole life I was
Oh my god the whole relationship was toxic and I hated every moment of it
It's like already been almost half my life. That would be intense. Oh my god
I would a dude I would I there's no way that even for a second I would believe it
So I would think it's pretty damn funny I had a conversation with someone the other day
um they
I'm not gonna get into the reasons why we were talking about
Like if I
Yeah, I can't I won't talk about why but I was like if I got diagnosed with cancer. I would tell Linus on wancho
That's so based. Oh, that's amazing. I don't this is not me doing that by the way, but surprise Linus
I was like we we've had this like thing forever that like if you died we would monetize
Your like death and if you know it was supposed to be a joke
But I was like, yeah, I mean I gotta tell him somehow
Linus would probably be like no no no save that for the show anyway if you try not to
I feel really important till you save it for the show save it for the show
You just you just send your email to him that just says
Death And nothing else
Subject death
Tasks Casket
Oh man, um, okay
Anywho, um, oh dude. Oh my god
Speaking of monetizing my death Um
Oh go ahead you go first So the thing the reason why I'll just say it, uh, I don't know if people are gonna like this or not
They might dislike it, but you know what? I am who I am in my will and the person who wrote it for me
Made it very clear that there was no expectation that this could happen that they were not entirely comfortable with writing it in
Um, but in my will is there's a certain amount of funds that should be put aside
To to to rent a boat and small and buy a smaller boat
And go it into international waters and then put me in a wooden boat
And push me away and then shoot it with a flaming arrow And that's how I want my probably the one person that you could imagine would
Even have any means the means and the will to do it. Thanks, man
Yeah Okay, I understand why I'm in the now see that's what I'm saying. It's not just material stuff in the will
That's my point exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that that is actually legitimately in my
I don't think that's legal International waters this this is an important part. It has to be international waters
Yeah, but I would still have to I would still have to obtain your human remains in Canada
There is issues getting my Yeah, it remains offshore. That's why I was you're gonna have to pay a captain a lot. I think is the situation or
You just have to I think I know a guy. Yeah, or or you just have to buy the boat yourself
I think I know. I think I could find a guy I got I got I got some
Yeah, okay Where there's a will there's a way
Oh, yeah Yeah, I wrote this like you don't have to be dead if you want this would have been I think this would have been like 20
Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to get him out there if he's not dead yet
Well, he would be afterwards, but you know, yeah, but that's that's later
Yeah, yeah unique user name wrote you're gonna be a pain in the ass even when you're dead
The the lawyer person literally said effectively that they're like you can't really expect people to like do this much work
Like even if we figure out the legality problems like this is a lot of like
Hoops to jump what we could do. I think we could honor the spirit of the request
I think that we could get your ashes And then we could get like I think what we could do and I think I think you'd approve of this
I think you'd approve of this. I think we could get you remember slender man
That like weird cloth dummy that we obtained many years ago
Or like yeah Or we could use uh, you know our skeleton like steve like we could use an iconic piece of LMG
Or something right and then we could like put your ashes like in its heart or something like that
You know, we get them all like this on the thing We get a little robot. No, I think you're picking up what i'm throwing down
I think you're picking up what i'm throwing down So we put the ashes that are legally obtained we get like we get some some iconic
We we get some like man if we could obtain like an xbox 360 or
og xbox it has to be an og xbox We get an og xbox. We get your pc. We get some like
We get some Some relics of luke's life
Okay, kind of like egyptian egyptian farrow style. This is part of the plan. This is part of the plan
Yeah, but not maybe your wives or whatever, you know
And and then we put them we put them all on the boat And then we do the arrow. Okay, it
Realistically, none of us are archers. It might take a few shots the plant
I don't have the whole thing in here because it's my notes for it But the plan is that if I remember correctly it was supposed to be all of the let's go like
If my if say my dad and my brother are still your brother
It's like online of it's a line of yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, and I imagine we'd have to bring a lot of arrows because like I don't think any of us are archery whizzes
And and like realistically we can't just shoot right at it. That's not the way. No, you have to arch you have to arc
Yeah, so we'd have to we have to arc it. Yeah So this could like take a while and then I would imagine that you'd want it to like as much as possible
Like be an event. Oh, yeah, so it would have to be
Like the like the boat there'd have to be like music like we'd need like kind of Nordic
Music kind of thing and like there there should be food
And it should kind of culminate in this moment when we put you out to sea and we like
And we we arc the flaming arrows onto the boat and we watch it burn
Yeah, hell yeah, like am I kind of am I kind of picking up the right vibe here?
That wasn't exactly what I was imagining, but it sounds fantastic. So hell yeah, okay
Yeah, that's all I think the like side details weren't honestly a lot of what I was trying to get across. No, it's the spirit
Yes, it's the spirit of the request. I think we could handle it. Yeah. Yeah, I think we could handle it
Yeah, but I realistically you're younger than me. So I'd ideally like for that to not happen so far. I'm doing all right, but that is
That is in there. Yeah, I insisted that it was important. They really didn't want to keep it in there and I insisted that it was important
You're such a pain in the neck
Oh And the fact that I'm thinking about this now is good
This is why it's important to talk about this stuff, right?
Thinking about this now when I can bounce ideas off of him and I can kind of read the body language
And we can have a back and forth conversation. It's not an easy conversation
But it's good because if if I was blindsided with this dude
Dude, I I do think you're right at the same time though. I think between like you and my brother and whoever else
I think you guys would have got it Yeah, I think so too. I just I do I do agree with what you're saying though. I do agree with what you said
Have you heard of daughter from california syndrome?
What? I learned I was yesterday years old when I learned about daughter from california syndrome
What I think that's what it's called. Let me double check Yeah, daughter from california california syndrome. It has a it has a wikipedia page and everything
And it's a phrase used in the american medical profession I'm just reading this off of wikipedia
To describe a hitherto disengaged relative who challenges the care of a dying elderly patient
And assists and insists that the medical team pursue aggressive measures to prolong the patient's life
So basically it's like how
It's the behavior of someone who's been uninvolved
With suddenly wants to be involved, but there's no real chance now
And and this is the way that their brain just like
This is a switch that flips in their brain that they have to keep this person alive
And that's the way that they can show that they care and we need to spend a ton of money
And we need to be really aggressive with the medical professionals who are
Doing their best and kind of trying to tell you look palliative care is the way now
um and yeah daughter from california syndrome and so you know i've gone through a couple of
family losses you know in my life and
It's it's such a thing it's
So much of a thing man Yeah, ksu wildcat in in Floatplane chat says literally my sister when my mom had been in hospice for over 18 months
Yeah, exactly. And so it's it and to be clear
I'm not like attacking these people for their behavior because it's probably part of their grieving process. Yeah
It sucks for everyone else and we need to not do that also, but like I understand that they're not in a great headspace, right?
um But like you never know who's going to show up and who's going to be
In a not great headspace at the time of someone's passing and when these instructions are not explicit
And when they're not discussed ahead of time Then there's a lot more room for ambiguity and and it can it can be really stressful
Um, like it was it was really It was really stressful
Going through some of this stuff when my sister passed Um, my family is not the least fragmented family of all time
I mean, I think I've been pretty open that my parents split when I was I don't even know if I was one yet
um and There's been that that was the beginning not the end of that story and so
um There was a lot of you know
There was a lot of disagreement about you know, what should be done and it was it was tough man. It was really tough
I feel like I've been Relatively fortunate in that regard
um Both with my brother because I don't imagine it will be even sort of an issue between the two of us and also
um The the relatives that were closer to me
That passed there was no real none of those complications
There were there were some that I know of but they weren't yeah, you told me about some
Yeah, yeah, they were they're involved like creating a lot of work for especially your dad. Yeah, that was not cool
Yeah, I yeah, I know the thing you're I know the thing. Yeah, my dad is surprisingly good at tanking stuff
So he was able to handle that he's a deescalator. Yes. So yeah, so he was able to handle that which was which was good
That shouldn't have happened. No, I agree And I think I think something people who are grieving forget is everyone else is grieving too
It's like really not the time for fights And I can understand like if time to make it about yourself if you you know
You you might be genuinely getting screwed over by someone who is just being a huge jerk and like
You might need to kind of defend yourself to a certain degree, but like
Man, it's crazy that this is like kind of a default in most scenarios
Like most most conversations have had with people about someone passing
There is a lot of disagreements and a lot of fights. It's just kind of sad
Yeah And I think that's I don't remember because it's been quite a while since I wrote it
But I think that was one of my motivations for my thing because it's so like crazy and grandiose
That either you do it or I don't care man. Just do whatever
And if you do it then like sick and whatever interpretation you have of that sick, um
Yeah, memorable. Yeah, exactly
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Luke, what do you want to talk about? Two more topics. I mean, maybe we should get through the the Floatplane thing too
No, no, we should do some more topics Android box manufacturer softlocks devices sold below official minimum price
Scummy actions Android box manufacturers super box is locking consumer devices to get back at retailers
If a retailer is delinquent in their debts Really or sells a device below the official minimum price set by us
Super box will softlock consumers devices and instructs end users to contact the retailer
as the fastest way to resolve the issue Dude, this is what mafia level stuff here
Super box advertising around this the set tops. I'm
So I'm super box. Okay. I sell you 10 super boxes
You're a retailer. You are having a hard time moving them. So you discount them
You sell your 10 super boxes. Okay a bunch of our WAN Show viewers
Let's say Here, I'm going to name some currently pooping annem white pwn crackers pk7
crystal pc master raze
unique username david k booger flinger and
nipple is cage
These are actual Floatplane users all of them
You guys truly are the float goats So
They all buy these boxes, right?
at a discount I found out that you sold them at a discount
I softlock their devices so they stop working and I tell them
They've got to go back to you so you can compensate me for selling them at a discount
How flipping? Wild is that imagine?
Imagine living in the brain of the person who is a big enough a hole to do this
crazy Super box advertises
So what is the super box tops as ip tv boxes?
The brand doesn't appear to sell direct to consumer or advertise its msrp's
Even or even authorized resellers. Yeah rough. So customers would be hard pressed to avoid suspiciously low prices as superbox advises
Were they even aware it was a possibility? unfortunately the practice of setting a
Minimum advertised price or map or minimum resales price mrp
of a price maintenance and
end of price maintenance Are all legal in the u.s. And canada
What is price maintenance wild? I've actually never heard of price maintenance. I have heard of map. I've heard the other ones. I haven't heard of price maintenance
Yeah, I'm gonna have to click on this our link is from the Price maintenance may occur when a supplier prevents a customer from selling a product below a minimum price. Okay
It may also occur when a supplier refuses to supply a customer or otherwise discriminates against them because of their low pricing policy
Okay, it's illegal only in certain circumstances However, the part where you brick the consumers box almost certainly has to be illegal
However, these are essentially pirate streaming boxes as far as I can tell
So they're already operating in
a completely Nebulous
legal area And it shouldn't surprise you that people who run sort of
Morally ambiguous businesses participate in morally ambiguous business practices
This just felt like the single most egregious case of
You no longer own the products that you buy that I had yet seen it went kind of viral on the subreddit
And I just couldn't believe it. I wanted to flag this if you guys know anyone in your life who is
Considering a super box make sure they know not to buy this. This is
Mind-blowing to to use
My ability to use my device as leverage against
The seller who sold it to me
What?
Yeah, lol inverse says the worst you've seen so far
I mean I get honestly, I don't even know it would this be illegal
Hold on a second because if it's legal to just turn off the service of a device that you ordered for no reason whatsoever
Like is this any worse Like yeah, it's it's it's more insidious like it's like worse in a sense
I guess but the outcome is the same the device you paid for doesn't work anymore
Too far gone says put them in the flaming with I think this makes me more uncomfortable if the box
Wouldn't normally rely on a service if that makes sense
I think it does though because they're they're probably running their own pirate streaming
Which is probably a big part of why they don't have a reseller list and they don't have an msrp
Right because they're just trying to stay as as under the radar as this was a really good idea if you want to stay under the radar
I know right stupid
Anyway, all right, we can moving on Uh
Open ai unveils its chromium-based chat gpt web browser atlas as a tool for
Vibe-living the same week microsoft launches copilot mode in edge and introduces
Mico the new clippy I would have been actually totally down for them to just bring clippy back not whatever mico is
atlas chat gpt's thing looks and functions like a traditional web browser
But it adds chat gpt functions and features throughout opening a new tab
Let's you either enter a url or ask chat gpt a question, uh, which is just googling things these days
browser memory is an optional Tool that tracks the pages and topics you've explored so atlas can suggest related content
Help you revisit past research and automate repetitive tasks
Hey, it's recall And now you're asking for it. Hey, let's go vibe-living
Uh, we believe we can start in the long run to have an amazing tool for vibe-living
Will Ellsworth the research lead for agent mode in atlas said during the live stream
So delegating all kinds of tasks both in your personal and professional life to the agent and atlas is apparently vibe-living
Okay Uh microsoft's edge co-pilot mode does really similar stuff to atlas with co-pilot actions performing similar
Simple tasks for you and the journeys feature remembering your password. Okay, so it's the same thing
Both browsers claim to and they're both chromium. Uh, hooray
Both browsers claim to care about your privacy cough cough
They definitely don't and they need permissions to take actions on sensitive sites such as financial institutions
Um They probably actually don't want to do that because the liability so they might actually care about that microsoft introduced
Mico or microsoft co-pilot mico. Yeah, okay. Maybe it is mico if it's microsoft co-pilot
Yeah, okay. I don't know anymore. Who knows. I think it's probably whatever you want it to be
Uh, a new visual presence slash mascot
It listens reacts and even changes colors to reflect your interactions. Well, it's a mood sensing ring
Everybody's just comparing it to clippy although. I can't show you because they don't have access to the dock where apparently everybody's doing that
Um, remember when cortana was supposed to be this? Yeah
At least that was cool because it was like xbox and halo and like
If cortana just didn't just like royally suck
It would have been all right. Yeah, I didn't mind the general implementation of cortana. I actually thought the idea was cool
It was just terrible at everything that it tried to do
Charge nuclei 8d 300 says it was never cool
You take that back The branding was cool. The branding was awesome. It was cool that they paid the actual cortana voice actress
That was cool. Yeah, the the like functionality of cortana was not as
Interesting the functionality was the entire problem And it's not the functionality like they they decided it would do the the wrong things
And I wanted to do other things the things that it could theoretically do were often actually kind of neat
It just couldn't do them very well. That was the problem
Clippy comes up if you click on my go too much from satya
Really, what do you mean clippy? Imagine being aware enough that it's just clippy and that people are kind of nostalgic for clippy to do that
But not being aware enough to just make the mascot clippy
Oh, my go is so generic and boring too. Oh, no
Oh, that sucks. You should just be able to I mean, I'm sure eventually you'll be able to buy skins
Yeah, wow, this is such a okay. What am I supposed to click on here clicky comparisons? Okay
Uh
It's just could be okay. This is it
That's that's my go I like our toucan better. Yeah, my go's just a blob
You can't offend anybody if it's not anything
I guess I don't know. I don't know those colors seem yeah, that's true
Um distinctly
Like they could be too human or maybe they'd seem like they're not human enough. That's true. That one looks like a sour peach
Yeah
But yeah, apparently if you uh
I didn't see who's doing thing I missed out
Make it him spin along with him. Someone linked it. Uh
Man, somebody linked it turning into clippy. Here we go. Here we go. Hold on
If you tap on it a bunch of times and
Come on there clippy Which immediately looks so much cooler. Can we just have clippy? Can I just say that?
Just instantaneously looks so much cooler
Unique username says oh, I've seen this rolled out to me definitely designed by committee zero character
Oh, I'm sure that's been that's been really
um I shouldn't say eye-opening because I've noticed it before
But being in japan and china recently like mascots are so much more of a thing here still
Remember when mascots were everywhere. Remember when mr. Clean was like
More than just a a picture on the the bottle actually they might still use mr. Clean
Mr. Steel your girl man. They probably do do the chat
Dude everything has an ascot here and I kind of love it. I love it
All right, um, I did like that in japan too I would say that's very cool
Apparently mr. Clean is still in the commercials and his CGI now. I just haven't seen a tv commercial in
Yeah, I'm not surprised. All right. What's this Linus?
Search picture from Linus for wanshield last week. I I think this is this is
Probably safe to just
Screen oh hold on hold on. I'm gonna double check and sanitize for you
No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. I need to see the Uh
Okay, uh, yeah, let can you just cut out the um the the the start menu part
Because this is this is notes from the fab tour that I was that I was recently on so I've got some cool content
Yes, there you go. Nice. What I'm doing what I'm doing overseas. Wait, what the heck?
Don't don't don't don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. There you go. Just don't uncrop it. I guess
That looks safe to me. Don't uncrop it. I'm gonna share screen. It looks it looks like it's uh been solved
Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll tell the people what I'm doing here later
What? Okay, anyway, there you go
Virus replace replace the paint logo with the
Last week remember I was talking about Windows search being a giant piece of garbage
And then I couldn't I couldn't replicate it
On stream and this time you typed in pin and it came up with paint
Dude was there something changing my pin For five six seven eight changing my pin. Which is what I was trying to do is the eighth
result The eighth result luke
Now I understand what they're trying to see what they're trying to do it's a typo thing the next time I did it
The next time I did it after I clicked pin and like after I clicked that eighth result
And then I tried to replicate this again
It searched for pin. Yeah, so it's using user behavior
but This shouldn't be the default. This is almost a brand new Windows install
Because that's why I was trying to set up the pin because I I inherited this machine from someone who was working on like
Labs testing for it or something like that so like Like this is not based on user behavior because they wouldn't have been using paint or pin
P i n And it didn't just like go here for a second and then and then like flip over
You know how it'll do that sometimes where it's like it just hasn't caught up and it's changing
No, I typed p i n in search and it's like do you mean paint?
Do you mean Pinterest do you mean?
Lots of slots casino games
Even command props. What are you talking about?
cash frenzy I
What is that why are cash frenzy and lots of slots casino games?
Above set up a pin
Why is anything from the store Above a relatively close match from your apps or settings or files
Just saying it's crazy
And like look at all the wasted space on the right this gigantic
Paint icon in just a void of emptiness if you want to have a bunch of ads put it there
Don't put it anywhere It's actually unacceptable anywhere
And that's fine. That's a completely valid take and I agree
But if you're going to have them, which they clearly are
Don't put them in the search results
Put cash frenzy somewhere else
And yes guys, I am aware of open shell. I'm aware but I
I genuinely Like to use Windows in its in its stock form. Yeah, we're trying to correct the stock experience
Which is the experience that the incredibly vast majority will have which is the problem
That thing he said And we need to experience it in order to feel the righteous fury that we do right now. Yes
It's important to experience it in that way It's also important that you as a power user don't have to that is cool. I appreciate that that is awesome
Um, but we need to not so that yeah
Everything that he said
Okay The bionic eye we're kind of getting there. We could maybe do the full plane announcements now
I think that'd be fine. Sure. Whatever you want All right. Oh wait. Was I going to tease what I'm doing here?
What are you doing there? What am I doing here?
Do you know What oh like in the country. Yeah, I do. Yeah, go for it. Tease it. Yeah, do it. That isn't the full plane announcements
But just do it I I oh it's in Floatplane announcements. It is is is
Not Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Uh, so I was in japan
For three days doing one of the coolest factory tours that I have ever done
This has been in the works for many months. I'm pretty jelly. And it will
It will probably be in the works for more months yet. Um, I there's certain things that we shot that I am
Hoping are gonna make their way through the approvals process
It it got all the way to the c-o-o apparently some of the stuff that we wanted to see
um But we were in kyoksia's
cutting edge fab
and We saw some stuff
We filmed some stuff We are working on a video. They actually they actually sponsored the video. So it is very much they are
This is actually a little bit of like 4d chess here
Doing these factory tours in a sponsored capacity is actually a powerful motivator for the brands to
Open up more and find a way when it comes to
disclosing all the stuff I operate in exactly the same way that I would for a normal facility tour
Except that I will have like like I do. I'll have my chunks where we kind of
You know suck off the brand a little bit to make sure we get some talking points in there
But in terms of the actual like body of the content
Um, like I'll include stuff that I wouldn't normally care about, you know, like found it in this year
But you guys don't care. You want to see a cutting edge fab, you know what I'm saying?
But I I got but I worked that in I go found it in this year. Whatever, right?
because That's how you get that's how you get into these places
um You just got it. You got to get on your knees a little bit. That's all I'm saying and
Guys It was absolutely flipping incredible like
Have you ever seen luke? Like I think fundamentally you understand the concept of like die stacking, right?
Okay, but have you ever actually seen them? No stacked
And wired together. No, did you even know
that they use Wire no because the second you said wired together. I was like
I see I assume that it'd be like some kind of through silicon something
Um, but no no the the dies are manufactured and then they're stacked
In a staircase structure So that one edge is exposed on all of them and then they are wired down to the substrate individually
It blew my flipping mind luke. That's pretty wild
It blew my flipping mind. Yeah, like I just yeah wire bonding. Thank you
Bachelor gun. I had just never thought about it
Fundamentally understood the concept of die stacking. Yeah
But I just never really like Never looked at a at a microscope picture of it never looked at the machinery that does it
The the the gold wire was so thin that you could barely see it hanging down
Dude wire bonding is flipping wild
um Anyway, so so making these sponsored is a great way to get the brand
Just as invested as I am in getting the video over the line
um Like we went through this with uh with Intel back in the day where there there was like what a three month two month
Three month gap between me doing the tour
And us releasing the video Yeah As it made its way through all the approvals and all the the challenges that go on with showing some of the most
Secretive and secure facilities on earth, right? And so um
I have no doubt and it's nothing against Intel. It's nothing against kiyoksia. These are these are big secrets
And these are very important You know details that need to be worked out. So I have no doubt that it's going to take some time
But I also have no doubt that we are going to get this video out there for you guys and you're going to absolutely have your minds
Flipping blown. I'm so excited um
And and yeah, this is this is the best system that we've kind of found
For doing these facility tours and getting everyone aligned on our goal of making the best possible most comprehensive
Possible video because I'll like I'll turn it around on the brand when
Probably being too open right now because if anyone watches this they're going to recognize my strats, right?
But I'll like I'll turn it around on the brand when we're working on the approval to see something
I actually pulled this move yesterday with a different brand
Um, where they basically go. Well, we can't show that and I go. Well, why am I here then?
What did you pay me for? To to show they're like, well, that's too cutting edge. That's too. That's too secret and I'm basically like
Right, but the whole point of this like let's go back to the brief, right?
The whole point of this was you guys wanted to show off your cutting edge technology
So why are you taking the cuttingest edgest of it and you're telling me?
I can't shoot it in the I can't put it in the video. This doesn't make any sense. We need to escalate this right now like
Help me help you tell the story the best that that you can see you're you're smiling because you've probably heard me do it
I've done it myself too But I I distinctly remember because the the first experiences of this for me
Which they might have been for you. I'm not sure
um Was cherry and then sennheiser
Uh-huh, and I remember kind of the same man. Yeah, I remember learning that there and then having to reapply it over and over again
Um, because it's always the same and like I get where they're coming from, but they're wrong
Yes, like I remember sennheiser specifically didn't want us to show
The failed bins for their drivers
We were like no this shows that like You care that the product is going to be good
And work so it's going to show up appropriately that matters and is going to resonate with the audience
They're like no, but it looks bad because we like didn't do it perfectly every time. We're like that. No, that's
Come on. That's not the point. I actually told that story yesterday. Yeah, I'm no surprise
No, I told that story a few days ago. I told that story a few days ago
Um, I had to I had to tell a different story yesterday
But it is their real stories based on our very real experiences
And and the thing that I always remind these brands is
you guys Booked us you guys booked us based on the factory tours you saw
You wanted us to tell your story the way we tell the story
Where we go in and we get into the grit and we talk about the real processes
That are involved in building your products We help people appreciate the challenges that go into building these things that go into creating the technology that we all love
Your you brought me here. You paid good money for me to be here because you saw that
Well, guess what when I made those videos I went through all the same
Stuff that we're talking about right now That video wouldn't get made if I wasn't having the same battles then that I'm having it with you right now
I need to film this step. It's it's literally every time too. Like it's it's it's quite literally every single time
Yeah, and so i'm not singling anybody out because I totally understand it. It's everyone. I mean this is uh
uh, this is uh
It makes sense Like this is your business. This is your livelihood. Yeah
This is that's what you're protecting right like the stakes are huge
I get it
It's like it's like a factory tour watching someone jump off a diving board and do a really cool dive
You're like, I want to do that and then you get up to the diving board and you're like
And then Linus has to convince you to jump and then it's fine
Yeah, and then you do it and then you know the viewers love it
Yeah, and and at the end of the day I mean and this is one of the ones that I kind of I have to go through this one every time too, right
It's like uh, especially when it comes to like, um
Like blurring logos on machinery is always a funny one to me because i'm like
Brother, you know, that's uh, that's uh, that's a widget metron, right?
the the people on earth who even
Know what a widget metron who have even heard of the company whose brand you're covering up
Can recognize that machine from its profile and the positioning of the dials anyway
And the people who don't know what that brand is are not going to build a competing semiconductor fab
So what are we even talking about here?
Yep And that's that wouldn't be necessarily applicable to like a to like a semiconductor machine because there's a high level of like
Customized customization that goes on in them, but for certain things
Um, I I did have to have this conversation very recently
Around something that was more of like a piece of scientific equipment where it is an off-the-shelf thing
And it's just like well, it's a trade secret who makes that i'm like bro
In the scientific community where they know what these things are
they're How many people even make those things for one thing and then
How hard would it be to go? Okay? Yeah, it's that one from the product catalog. You're not you're not hiding anything from anybody
um from anybody who
Would be able to do anything with the knowledge You're hiding it from people who wouldn't be able
To do anything with the knowledge that you would be arming them with by telling them the manufacturer of this of this piece of
scientific equipment And and and like another funny one is like, you know guys
People talk And and it's not me. It's not me talking the industry is so
Inbred people move around between companies all the time
Like if you imagine for a second and i'm going to use an example that like isn't a real one
So i'm not calling anybody out here, but like if you imagine for a second your special
You know idea for a bracket to cable manage a tube
Is like not in everybody else's fab that they're also keeping super secret from you. You got to be kidding yourself
Like it's i'm sorry It like it's it's the basic stuff like that like the actual the actual details
You know the proprietary chemical mixtures and stuff like that totally understand. Yeah, don't tell me that
I don't even want to know that I don't want to be armed with knowledge that could be so damaging to your business. Yeah
But some of the some of the little details like the way we position that warning label. It's like bro
Come on, man. You got to be kidding me right now And and the funny thing is a lot of the time it's it's not even on them
Like it's not kiyoksia's fault some of the things that you know, they need to get legal approval for sometimes
It's their partners. Yeah, it's their partners being totally irrational
It's like you're you're not allowed to disclose that we use a you know a hex head on our bolts to secure this piece of equipment
To the floor there were details and i'm not throwing them under the bus like genuinely
Uh, I think they were just doing exactly what they needed to do On the Intel tour. There was details that we were not allowed to share about the tour that we did
Because of the brand partners that they were working with
And then lucas found videos from those brand partners on youtube that had those details in them
And we're just like wait what? Like what are you talking about?
Oh man, oh well And and it's just you know, I don't know PR people are gonna PR
Yeah, and and it's easier to say no Yep, so I totally get that it's it's lower friction internally. Nobody ever got fired for saying no, you can't disclose that
Right, yeah, but you know, we don't achieve anything that way right and so
And and I'm just and and so I just I want to take a moment here after my ranting, right?
To appreciate the companies that try
That that try to open up
The doors and and and give us this insight into into what they're doing like I I was I'm hugely respectful even though
it's pulling teeth every time I
I have enormous respect for companies like kiyoksia and Intel and cherry and anyone else that we kind of
Named and didn't shame. We're not shaming them here
For trying to do this in the best way that they possibly can it's super cool
And it's something that otherwise just small hands full of people on earth would ever get a chance to see and experience and
You know as someone who just believes in the sharing of knowledge and education
I appreciate that they are they're trying to to do better
So I it's super cool, and I'm really excited for you guys to see that facility tour
I was I was blown away by yesterday. So yesterday was high since
When I When we got the invite
And I was like, okay, but like is it like a panel fab? Do you guys do your own like panel technology?
And they're like, no, it's not panels. It's just like the the tv
itself I was like, uh, is that going to be that interesting?
Luke Don't miss this video
High sense factory tour. There were a couple things that unfortunately
No matter how hard I pushed I wasn't able to get them to show you and one of them is not going to sound that cool
Um, it basically it's like in real time
A computer Animation with like kind of transparency and stuff of the entire production line
I'm allowed to describe it, but I I wasn't allowed to shoot it
um That shows all the machines all the automations
on This over 70 automated
Factory line that takes the tv from constituent parts just from the screws and in cables
And panel and back housing and glue like all of all of the constituent parts and assembles them had them all operating in real time
With various efficiencies and and operational telemetry telemetric data
Um, so that they can proactively perform maintenance
So cool and that that kind of like factory automation
Yeah That's really cool kit stuff is is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily expect
Some of these more just like nuts and bolts hardware to care about
But it was like mind blowing a lot of the stuff that's it's incredibly important to them because I have to keep margins down, right?
Up but yes Yeah that one and and
And efficiency was such a major story
They had this machine that automated like a glue application step that they were boasting saved them 9% on glue
And I was like
Right That's gonna be a lot you guys are operating. Yeah at the volume you guys are operating at even if it's a dollar worth of glue
That's nine cents a unit just like that boom that machine pays for itself
Dude the level The level of automation on this thing. Oh pc master raze says
How the heck is An automated line profitable for a specific model of display
You're gonna love this video dude. It really puts in perspective
The volume of consumer electronics
That are being shipped because yes the entire line that we are watching
Running the way that it is Is one model of tv that's being produced right now
um And and the automation of it is absolutely
Incredible like it wasn't that long ago that I was here in china
Touring the one plus factory and them telling me yes screws are still too hard
Dude almost nothing is too hard now like it's 70 percent now 71 percent now
And there were multiple steps that still had humans working on them that they were like yeah, and we are in active development
automating this as well and
Not only does it save cost, but they're like yeah, the quality is dramatically better
um Like like markedly better. It's it's gonna be it's gonna be a pretty it's gonna be a pretty cool video
Whatever something else I was gonna say, but oh, yeah, right, right, right. Yeah. Mew. Mew actually nailed it
So we finally find out how tv's are getting cheaper
Yeah Like we're you're gonna get to see
How deep a company like high sense is digging to find the savings
To make tv's like the one of the only categories of consumer product right now
That is seemingly inflation proof somehow
You guys will get to see it and it will blow your flipping mind
That's I'm I'm genuinely quite excited. I love the like man
I wish how it's made was still a thing and I know there's like some
Sort of derivatives, but there was there was something pure about how it's made that was just so great
But I I love seeing that type of stuff. I'm very into it. Oh, I was using a um led factory
Kind of how it's made type thing. No music. No talking
Um as as test audio for the today's show. Oh really? There's like so much cool stuff on youtube
That's like even better than how it's made and a lot of it comes out of these hyper automated factories. It's super awesome
Maybe I just need to go find those Yeah, it's a different algorithm
One battle speaking of automation that I had to have with high sense was uh showing the human steps
They didn't want to show the human steps and I was like bra
No, we're showing the human steps because this video is
It's not how it's made the the tm, but it's it's how it's made we want to
We can't I can't walk into I can't do the intro of this video say it's 71% automated and then not show a single human
I'm so much more interested if I see the human steps too because I
I know that the people there are heavily incentivized to automate things
So then then I'm trying to think and go okay
How would they automate this still remaining step? And why is it so difficult because if they're making a whole thing to save 9% of glue
Then they they clearly would love to but it's it's so difficult. So like it's it's that makes it so much more interesting
Yeah, pc master raze says didn't turn up for 71% of a tv and that's exactly like that's exactly the line that
That I'll that I'll pull with these guys. It's like I wouldn't have flown here
If you weren't going to show me the whole thing you got to understand we're we're doing the whole thing
And you just you got to be you got to be firm because at the end of the day
It's it's for their own good. But but I understand, you know, I understand why it's so tough
And it's just it's part of the content creation process, man. It's just part of uh
It's part of learning how to work together learning how to move forward and again massive
Massive credit to everyone we're working with on this trip. So we hit kiyoksia already
We hit high sense already yesterday, and then we're going to huawei in a couple of days
And um, actually luke you might be kind of into the lab that we're going to there
I was not a hundred percent sold on it because I know that like health tech is not always what resonates the most with our audience
But dude the health tech lab they have
I don't even care if it gets like 300 000 views or whatever. I just wanted to see it
Um, they have like in like a like an they have like an in-place swimming pool
They have a bike track apparently that like goes around their facility like they they have to do the test
I haven't gone yet, but i'm gonna oh that's so cool
Yeah, so i'm gonna actually like get hooked up
Dude benchmarking Linus Yeah, use the health lab that they use to like create the sensors for like smart wearables and stuff like it's gonna be
I'm really excited I'm so excited dude. It's gonna be awesome in
I was gonna make an insolviate russia joke, but
Yeah, in in somewhere, uh benchmark benchmarks you or something. Yeah, anyways, exactly
Um, okay Can't wait. Okay, what were we supposed to be doing?
Uh, hey, whoa, uh, if you want if you don't want spoilers because you're you're tivoing the game or whatever then don't um
Don't listen to me for the next uh five seconds, but um, hey jay's win
Game one. Let's go. Oh, hey Nice. Yeah, I've actually got a merch message about that. Maybe we
Do that now Sure, uh, hello dll game one of the world series just started any baseball fans here
Also, this new t-shirt design is incredible. Please continue with designs like this
Um
I
The last time I followed baseball for real john olerude played for the blue jays
Um, and ken griffy jr. Was like the league superstar
um I have a peripheral interest in
most major sports enough to kind of know who
You know, the people are I know the rules of baseball pretty well. I played baseball as a kid
But I haven't really like followed followed
Since the last time the jays were contenders. They're only team. Yeah, canada is big bandwagoning right now most
I know almost no canadians that watch or care about baseball pretty much at all
Some people like like Linus said
Might know some of the players names and like we'll we'll watch the game here or there if there's nothing else really on
And I'm sure people from like the local city care
Uh, but most of canada is not that tuned in except for
For sure right now Like everybody is in
Which is fun. Whatever sometimes it's neat to jump on a bandwagon. It is what it is
You know what and I think it's I think it's good. I think it's good for I think it's good for the sport too because probably like think about it
They've been calling this the world series for all this time
And there's only one team that's not from that's not from america
So I think it makes sense that you have to have a team from another country when it every once in a while
Otherwise, you're just gonna have to change the name Yeah
Well, no, they're just they would just need to compete. They wouldn't have to win. They just need to compete
I guess that's true. Well for a long time. They didn't compete and now they are
So I know I'm no it looks like fun. I gotta say baseball is probably my favorite sport to watch
I'm maybe not favorite, but among it's like very high. I don't like watching. I can't watch a baseball game
It's too long and there's too much downtime for me to
To like be focused on it But highlights. I love baseball highlights. It's like one of my favorite sports to just binge highlights of because
Some of them are great. It feels like The athleticism like they're they are some because of the the pay in baseball like, uh, oh man
What's his name? Shohei got like a 700 million dollar contract or whatever it was. That's wild
By the way, that guy just looks like if you genetically engineered like Chad human
Yeah wild anyway, the point is
These are some of the best athletes in the world because
The the money's there, right? So if you are if you are literally a world-class athlete that could play any game you want baseball would be a super
high candidate But they spend most of the time
standing or like Sitting in a dugout. So when they do move, man
Wow, everything. My god, it's it's easy to look at a baseball game in progress
Where 95 of the players are literally not doing anything and go like, you know, this is boring
You know any any fat white dude could do this, you know, why why don't why why can't my uncle just my uncle could have
thrown a better pitch than that, you know, it's easy to to couch
You know What what what what what what are they called? Just like couch warrior or whatever, right? But then
The things they do
Damn Incredible love it
Love it. Okay. Speaking of loving the things that they do. Let's do armchair quarterback. That's the one
Let's do the full point announcement. Dan. Do you have the dock? I do. I don't understand this at all
I've read it like four times and I think Either ai did this or sammy just derped but I believe you have to guess the prompt
Not me though Linus made right, but then how is it a competition? I don't know
If I can guess it I win and if I can't guess it you win, but there's like points and stuff
I don't know. I don't know what we're doing Whatever anyways, riley and I as in me directly tried out the new sora 2 app and discovered just ai content
And discovered just ai content affecting social media on tuesday
The video is now out, but I thought we'd play a fun game with Linus
You're going to watch the video and guess the prompt Dan will decide if you're close enough for the point the winner bragging rights as in every competition
Dan, please play video one. Okay. It's just a second. I'm trying to keep these lanes clear. Thank you
Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic, but it's for a reason our neighborhoods only public badminton courts are about to get turned into a parking lot
These games build What do you think the prompt was supposed to guess the prompt? Yeah, I mean, okay
Okay, protester protester
Protester at rally To save our communities badminton courts get support from mark cuban
I will say I mean pretty pretty close actually. Yeah. I mean, I would give that to him
I would also give that to him if you'll give him a ding I will I will I will also say I think like pretty much every time the person is named
I would still give that to you, but pretty much every time we tried to name the person
Oh This time I will say it gave us a like we can't recreate them
Uh, so I just Reference like effectively who they were so it could guess it pretty easily
But the the person is supposed to be specific. You knew mark cuban
That one was made. Oh, who was the okay. Can I see the other one? I didn't notice the other one was a person
Was it sample it again? Mm-hmm Just a second. I'm trying to think you'll get this. Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic
But it's for a reason our neighborhood's only public badminton courts. No, I don't know who that is
I didn't think you would because that was supposed to be you Um, I originally typed oh line of Sebastian and then it was like we can't do that
We can't recreate that person. So I said the main host from Linus media group
Um And it it spat out that
Okay, so question for you And we're gonna go off topic a little bit here. I think sure but it's sort of on topic. Yeah
Because you have to opt in as an influencer. Yeah to have your your yourself should I opt in? No
I don't know. I want to I want to be clear. I I haven't opted in
Do you want the argument? Is that what you said? I want to have the conversation
Because some people are right. Yeah, we have some of them in here. We
I won't name them. I almost just did. I mean mark cuban is one though
Um, and and you kind of like get something like if you notice Dan if you go to the end of that clip
Uh, if you can bring it back up and go to the go to like the very end. Yeah
He got that included. So there's like a little url
I I I don't know if it's If it's a condition or or what I played again. I couldn't pause it on it. Sure
Thank you. Yeah, I'm that guy stopping traffic, but it's for a reason our neighborhoods only
public badminton courts It's pretty quick
Right there. Yeah, right there. Got it. So that's part of his thing
And as far as my understanding goes you can get like a thing that comes along with your likeness and that's his thing
Um, other people have other things you could do like LTT Store
Maybe right, but I mean we just got him protesting for badminton courts. So you might you people could make you do things
So you don't necessarily want to do Do you want to promote people doing that because like when we were doing this
I didn't actually intend for him to be in that at all. I accidentally fat fingered mark Cuban
Yeah, I accidentally fat fingered his there's like tags above the input field
And I was trying to do something else and I accidentally bumped it and then when we watched the video and he was in it
We were like what and then we looked back at the prompt and we saw that he was tagged in it
Um, so it's like it promotes you using
These people that have given their likeness over to the app Um, that's pretty wild. I just I think especially right now
Until we get better things figured out over like the laws around likeness and stuff. It's better to just
Hold on to it for now. Uh, well see me. I feel like this is quite
Short-sighted. I mean, I'm not gonna claim to have a better long-term vision than mark Cuban. He's obviously been very successful
um Let's let's hear. Let's finish watching some of these before you, uh, keep commenting. Let's let me let me just finish with this one
But but I feel like I feel like right now the strongest argument that I could come up with
For allowing it would be it's pretty obvious that it's still fake. So it doesn't really matter
I don't think anyone's hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna get there. Like I I don't think it
I don't think anyone would actually think that you know, Linus is promoting
Cat and dog breeding, you know, let's let's let's go with like an you know, an end times thing
The cats are mating with the dogs, you know, like I no one would actually think that so
So maybe maybe it doesn't matter and all publicity is good publicity publicity
that's The best argument that I could think of and then that coupled with well
People are gonna make it anyway. So I might as well. I might as well
Huh, I might as well have a hand in controlling
My destiny that people are gonna do this anyway store out there or whatever
Not even that I just mean like
Like I might as well it's better to be complicit in your own
Being used then see then fighting it and no, no, no, no, I'm not saying these are good arguments
I'm saying these are probably the best. I hear you devil's advocate arguments that I could come up with
Um, but the problem is that both of them are kind of easy to I think it's just a counter, right?
I think it's just relevance. I think you just cultural relevance is the biggest argument. I think you want your
likeness To be on that scrollable thing
Right on top of the prompt all the time being relevant to everyone
um, and like the One of the paul brothers or maybe both of them were on there
um, clearly Mr. Cuban some other people like there's
I think they're trying to stay in the zeitgeist that being said in my opinion
I don't it doesn't really feel like that many people using the app. I noticed sam altman has 60 000 followers
and a Video a sora video that went omega viral on twitter and ended up making someone over a grand in like twitter prime money or whatever that is
um, yeah Had like a few hundred likes on sora. I don't think people actually care
It's just a garbage slop app that no one really uses. It's just morbid curiosity and then they go away
But anyways, should we do number two?
um PC master rays here says yeah, but like imagine your brand being associated with some fdap ai video and
I I feel like we're headed into
I feel like we're headed into a level of
Like disconnection from what we're seeing
And assumption of things not being real
Absolutely, I don't know if like brand association is even going to be a thing anymore. I don't think if I don't know if it's going to matter
I think if everyone just assumes that everything's fake. Japan will care. Yeah, it's gonna go the way the keyboards
It'll go a lot faster than keyboards. All right. All right. Let's do the second one. I'm sorry
I'm just I just thought this was it. I thought this was an interesting conversation. All right. So my hilarious Dan killed
Dan killed sir um right here
No, I mean but I can't anymore so he might have to go Oh, okay
a dead Ability to can is uh is no more. Yeah, you can stay right there. Okay. Uh the next one so
Yeah, apparently he said so people can volunteer their likeness Uh, and there are some creators on here if you want to look but I fat fingered mark cuban, which is a fun accident
That's my little prompt there and this one says lioness if you get this right that'd be amazing because it's not what you think
Okay Sammy are you are you ready?
Yeah, play it. Let's see
Mmm, that's so good perfect amount of sauce cheers to whoever made this
I will say I was pretty impressed at how
Good that one was actually not not at doing what the prompt said but just the the video itself was like surprisingly good
I think they've really trained on will smith. Yeah, they've really trained on spaghetti. No, no, that was my guess. Oh, no
Okay, because like a kind of nerdy white guy compared to like a cool less white guy
Seems like the opposite of will smith. Who do you think that the nerdy white guy is?
Oh, can I see do you want to play it again? Sure? Yeah, that slurp was unsettling if you can mute the audio that'd be great
Otherwise, it's turn it up
Why would you do that? Why would you why would you do that?
It's not a real slur. It looks like a cross it looks like a cross between me and austin evans
Watch it again. Watch it again. Play it again. Okay, play it again
Okay, sorry. I okay. I actually need him to listen to it, but not the slurp. So can you crank just when he's talking?
Yeah, I can try. Okay. Just just play the slip. I don't care. I'm over it
Mmm, that's so good perfect amount of sauce cheers to whoever made this
Oh Okay, so it's supposed to be my voice. I guess
Okay What if I told you it's not supposed to be your voice but everyone immediately flagged it is supposed to be your voice and just
Kind of done poorly, but it's not it's also not supposed to be you
Who do you think it is?
I don't know someone's name was put in and your voice came out of it
Because I thought this one's kind of fascinating This blew my mind. It's another dude. I have I have no way of guessing this
So the prompt was do I go for it? Yeah, go for it. Do you think he got it? I don't
The prompt was luke lafrenier eating spaghetti
And my voice came out your voice came out
So I'll read the prompt because this was this was my theory, but I'll read the prompt the theory of why it sounded like Linus is every time
Uh, every time I'm googling you appear
Sammy what what did you write every time?
Sammy googles luke If you google me you show up. There you go
I'm gonna do this right now
Clafrenier I mean sort of the first four hits are your twitter profile your linkedin
Your youtube and your instagram people also search for you're always number one
um The like second photo that I see is you and me
Failfist bumping from forever ago. What okay. My search does not find I switched over to images
and it is literally I got
shoot okay, this is This is
Is this joel? Yeah It's it's my twitter, but it's joel
Yeah, I know what picture you're talking about. I have joel before I have you my entire friend
Not only does not contain any pictures of me, but it doesn't even contain any pictures of you and me
What the heck that's weird not one. I'm gonna send I'm gonna send this to you
I'm gonna send this to you right now because I feel like that's strange I feel like I'm saying a thing that people are okay
Well, I've had this experience before where when I when I google myself for whatever reason
It's pretty common that that you or you know
Linus media group or LTT or something like that comes up, right?
So I think it it tried to grab Whatever estimation it could have my voice
But it had so much more training of your voice
That it just made your voice and it doesn't have very good training of what I look like
So it's just generic white dude with a beard
Yeah, dude even my second page only has me on it twice and in both cases I am with you
In one case I have my head on your butt. Oh, no, that's what I mean. That's what I mean
Like we we would be together. I don't I don't mean it just comes up with just you
So this is the first one you sent Where is it yeah, yeah that Joel one comes up all the time for me
That's a clean result. That is actually
And mine was the same. I've done it before where where you definitely came up weird
Maybe something was going on at that time and then this is the second one
Oh, wow, like we've got you and me. I think that's the
Scrapyard Wars fist bump or something over on the right there. I forget the context of that
I forget I remember that photo, but I don't I I don't remember why
I think it was specifically something to do with way and show, but I don't remember what for
It's a that's I mean that's that's a decade ago. So who knows
Um, okay prompt number three. Are you ready?
The Sammy's writing says final prompt winner takes all so focus up which is true
He had no idea of knowing he had no way of knowing that would be true
But that is true because it's it's tied so far, I guess
So yeah Dan play it Hey, that's my homework. You just ate it. So that's why I don't have the paper my laptop literally ate it last night
Your laptop ate it. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I filmed it teeth and everything. That's the first
Okay, so I justine is involved. Yeah
So, yeah, uh, you have to try to guess the yeah, there you go. Why is the pig there?
Okay, I want to see it one more time. Okay I think I can preemptively explain that's my homework. You just ate it. So that's why I don't have the paper
My laptop literally ate it last night. Your laptop ate it. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I filmed it teeth and everything
Actually, no, I won't explain the pig
Okay, so obviously Um, the the prompt is going to involve involve the student
Um Explaining to their teacher that their laptop ate their homework
Their teacher is I justine. So, okay. Okay student
Students
Students laptop eats their homework
They
I don't know. I don't care
You got it. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the dopamine for that one. Yeah. I mean, I think you got it
Make a realistic depiction of a computer eating a students and then in brackets carter pc's homework
The student then needs to explain to their teacher. I justine
I think there was more text than that, but it just ends there That's carter pc's a shorts creator. You don't watch short stuff all good
And then I justine which you guessed makes sense They both have their likeness in the app and it recreated both of them
Quite well just like it recreated mark Cuban quite well
Um, how did the pig figure into it? We're pretty sure that that is I justine's
Inclusion thing Ah, you know how mark Cuban had the the link we're pretty sure it's it's her inclusion thing
I don't know what to call that. Um
But I I think she she has one of those she does have a pig. Yeah, she has a pig
Um, and it's it and it only shows up when she's on screen
It doesn't show up when carter's on screen. So it like it it's it's probably that that's what that's what our speculation is
um Yeah, we did more prompts
Some of them are hilarious In my opinion my favorite one isn't even in these three weeks ago
Uh, I made all my I made all my videos have a pig in them. Ha ha two weeks ago. Yeah, there you go
Uh, so that makes sense. I didn't I didn't know that that was like officially true. I just it made made a lot of sense
But yeah, we did a bunch of stuff. It was with Riley. I was hanging with Riley We had a fun time. There's a 40 minute video of that on LMG.gg slash flow plane. Go check that out
It's fun. We make some fun videos. We crash out about the the doom and gloom of the future. It's good stuff
Um And yeah, thoughts if I'd like vibe coded. Yeah, I mentioned that the the app felt vibe coded because the app was just so junk
There's a lot of really bad user experience flows and other
Weird stuff that happened when you try to use it. It's it's not a very good app
Um, how about some good ai news? Sure. Yeah, youtube's likeness detection tech. Yeah
launched They're rolling this out to eligible creators in the youtube partner program and the technology is designed to prevent people
From having their likeness misused by identifying and managing ai generated content
Featuring the likeness of creators such as their face and their voice
This process does require providing a photo id and a brief selfie video
But with the tool creators can view all detected videos and submit a removal request
Or they can make a copyright request and they can opt out of using the technology at any time
And youtube will stop scanning for videos 24 hours after they do so
um It's not perfect Obviously, but I've got to give google credit here for doing
Something what is the agreement it's taken too long. It's taken too long
Like mr. Beast hawking, you know Penis enlargement pills has been happening for far too long with just ai generated slop videos of jimmy and stuff like that
but this is I okay, this is something
Yeah, I um Oh, I was a big fan of this and then hearing you say it out loud raised some warning flags
You mentioned the the process requires providing a photo id and a brief
Selfie video I don't really understand why they need that. Why partner program unless this is also giving them permission to use it
well I don't know if I don't know if youtube specifically has given me reason to go that tinfoil hat
They haven't for me either, but again, why would they need it?
um
It might be easier to train off of it might be a standard duration thing or something
Yeah, I mean we're working on a deep fake thing right now for a video
That um, they the Labs team asked me like even though there's obviously lots of training data for me
Uh, the Labs team asked me to like do this and do this and like it does make it easier. Yeah
Um, are you gonna do it youtuber is like me? Oh, I'm gonna do it a hundred percent. Yeah
Yeah, no question. I mean it's it's
Something The sora thing is like a hard obvious no in my opinion this is a pretty obvious
Yes, as long as there isn't anything super freaky in the in the transit service or whatever
Um Okay, cool. Thank you youtube
Coffee table book of iconic phones, huh?
Yeah You got to carry it from there. There are no notes
Oh, okay
Hold on. Let me just bring up my notes
Okay, there you go phone arena reached out
Good lord, uh a minute ago
When when when was this uh back in
March no it must have been earlier than that hold on
Phone arena check my emails But but but but but but but but wow was it really only that long ago?
Okay, well, uh, apparently it was only
In march. Wow, they turned this around really fast. Anyway phone arena reached out because they wanted to do uh like a table book
Of like iconic phone designs. Uh, they didn't really ask for much. They just asked like, you know, hey
Oh an october of 2024 so a year ago um
They they were like, hey, here's a brief outline of what we want to do
We want to tell the story of some of the most iconic phones kind of recreate their impact
Um, we have some amazing other creators on board. Do you have some time to chat?
Um I basically said, yeah, I'm not like a huge design nerd
but I did use some of the phones that they had identified as like
I iconic and I'd love to I'd love to help, you know in some way if I can and they basically said
Yeah, if you could kind of tell us the story of the phones you selected
Um, they asked for just like short little quotes. It took me a really really embarrassingly long time to get back to them
I feel really bad about that. Sorry Yavor, um, my bad, but uh, they reached out
Earlier this month to say hey pre-orders for the book are supposed to be going live soon
and um If you want like a commission link or anything like that, then we can do that. I basically said I don't really
Uh, I don't really need the money that badly. So you guys can do you can just kind of
Do your thing. Um But I will but I'll be happy to promote it anyway
And so that's that's what we're doing. Uh there. Let me just see if I can find the link
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da, where where do I go?
Sorry, I'm trying to figure it out because I want to actually I want to actually find the link
Maybe it's just on the phone arena website here. Let's have a look
Uh iconic phones book news, maybe I'm gonna try news
Uh, I really hope oh here it is here it is here it is
Sign up to get updates and an early bird discount. Uh, I'll link it
I
Have no idea how much it costs. I don't know what all else is in it. It says it ships fall 2025
and uh, I It involves quotes and stories and insights from austin evans brandon butch
John retiger Linus tech tips max tech mr. Who's the boss super saff and jerry rig everything
Which I think I don't know. It's a pretty cool little project. I just thought it was neat. So I wanted to
Provide what little contribution I could again if you don't mind copying the link into the other spots. Um, that's it
That's pretty much all I have to say about that Hopefully it's uh, hopefully it's cool and you guys appreciate the kind of the photography and the little quotes and stuff and it's uh
Table book for people who like table books and also like phones
Uh
Speaking of liking things
Sure. Yeah, good segue. Love it. Okay. Nice. I wasn't sure if you're trying to say something or not. There's a massive delay
Yeah, the what if do you like doritos Linus?
Do I like doritos? Are you into doritos?
Probably more than I should be Do you like guns? I try not to eat them. I try not to
Oh
Okay, which one is it I can't tell do you like doritos or guns?
You clearly like one of them
That's wild dude. I mean
Ah, wow, man What a terrifying experience that would be to have because it's effectively getting swatted so there's a chance that you
Get unalived because ai mistakes your favorite snack as a firearm
Fun fact, yeah, I mean you never know when and like you never know when a trigger happy
responding agent is gonna
Somebody's gonna figure out how to visually hijack ai's
Visually trick them into thinking something's happening and make this happen as a
Form of attack. I can pretty much guarantee it
Hasn't happened yet, but it will I promise you we don't have a lot of notes here. It's just rough
Pugboy 1321 asks the real question here in Floatplane chat
Would nobody check the footage first before going in?
armed like How much time do you have? Is this a school shooting? Do you want to spend time rewinding the tape and looking for stuff?
Uh willing spy says apparently it was more on the principal pal
Um, it was flagged by ai turned away by the person in charge the principal said. Oh, no call the cops
Oh man
Cops from the wild
Oh
There's a discussion question here with no sources no topics no, uh talking points, etc. Should lg become an ad agency
Oh, uh, let's save that for later. All right not talking about that
Uh xbox wants okay fine. We can just we can just do it now Colton Colton has discussed on multiple occasions
Farming out our biz team essentially To other creators. Do you think there's a like a value in that? Yes
I know multiple that would want to join
Turns out most people don't start making youtube videos about things that they're
Extremely interested in often artistically interested in
Because they want to do business things
And they would prefer those things are just handled for them
I don't know maybe we just should then because yeah, I don't know going through processes like like factory tours for instance
It's a perfect example of something that No conventional agency
Could possibly understand but we have experience with those kind of stuff. You mentioned
not even that long ago that a uh
A different form of agency than the agency we would be making
Mentioned that we are really nice to work with because we like get it and have been doing it forever
There is a certain level of experience and expertise that we can bring to the table that some people need. Does everyone need it? No, that's fine
But there are people out there that would that would love to work with us on this and
Why deny them? It's not like we have to force anything. So here's a question for you
Here's a question for you and it's one that I don't know if it has a cut and dried answer
We have a pretty hard stance for instance on um, uh gambling ads
Right So what if we're working with a creator that doesn't have a hard stance on gambling ads and that's their that's their personal compass, right? Like I'm
I'm I'm I'm not I'm not generally
going to give people a hard time if they
Need to need to make money and You know, that's uh
That's within their sort of Bounds or whatever. I don't I don't like it
um But you know in general I'm not going to just like go on stream blasting other creators for working with that or help or working with
You know gambling or or or alcohol
Or whatever, right tobacco and alcohol like all the stuff that we kind of have our lines on, right?
um so
If that creator If if a brand reaches out to work with a creator that we represent
And they're a brand that works in a vertical that we choose not to be involved in
uh, let's go with something more I shouldn't say more socially acceptable because gambling is perfectly socially acceptable at this point these days
alcohol Like function functionally every adult that I know consumes alcohol in some form or another so
um Long range high five
Yeah, we yeah, sorry. That's I didn't mean we don't like you and me
I wasn't I wasn't going for like a thing. I just meant like Um, but we don't generally advertise that. Yeah. Yeah, we don't work with alcohol companies not not generally like we just don't and
Uh, but like I don't I don't have like a moral
objection To alcohol like I don't care other people can drink alcohol. It's just not interesting to me
and so um You know
Where's the line? Because we've made a decision as LMG
Not to profit from You know alcohol, right
But if this agency if we start up this agency
I don't think we'd be a very good agency if we started inserting our own values
um If we put our own values in between a legal transaction between two other parties, I mean, this is something we've talked about
Extensively. Yeah with like Mastercard and Visa and all those guys in my opinion and I've said this on on uh
Wanshoe like a bajillion times to be honest is
You know, there's that whole there's no ethical consumption under capitalism thing. There's also there are too many things to fight for
um and
Like I have my things that I will and won't do
Which I think makes the world better or I vote with my wallet in certain ways
But I don't necessarily expect other people to do the same And I generally assume that they have their own versions of that which might be a little bit different than mine
So you say no to gambling someone else might say no to animal products
um, yeah Yeah, I I admit I love animals and I use
Animal products and eat animals without relief and thinking about it. Yeah, so like
Say dude, I was I was at the mall last night and they had
Dog they had puppies in cages and I was like my heart was breaking
So I have my animal lines too. I I'm so glad that that's illegal in canada now. Um
Yeah, anyway, sorry, uh, but like what I'm saying is it's it's
I don't think in in I deeply respect that we set our own lines
And I expect that they would set their own lines and in this case
I don't think it's our place really to decide where their lines are for them
um That's that's how I would personally try to approach it
Um, there are potentially certain things that could be just hard nose
um
I don't know that I even want to discuss those right now But there there might be certain things where it's just like that's just actually deplorable for
Anyone at any point anytime Um, I mean we've talked about uh, we've talked about like on Floatplane for instance
You know if they're if we ever were approached by like an adult creator for instance
We have firearms creators on Floatplane and that's something that I know can be a very polarizing. Yeah, uh topic
And but it's because we're trying to be a platform, right? Like it's uh, it's a yeah
It's a different thing, but I is it like hold on a second because if we are not saying it's a different thing than the business thing
I I'm saying it's kind of the same thing as business thing. I'm saying it's a it's a different thing than us doing it ourselves
um yeah
Yeah, like it's uh, and we you and I when when when we talked about it what we basically settled on is
If it is legal in the jurisdictions of everyone involved, it's not our place to
Um to make a moral judgment on the the content of another content creator and I I think this is something that
um You know any normal company would never talk about this
On a live stream like that's the thing that I think a lot of people in the chat right now
And we're gonna get crap for it. We will get crap for this
is that If we if we decide
You know to go forward with this with you know, this sort of agency work or whatever else
Um, if we didn't talk about it today, you would never have noticed like name a single
Advertising agency that Linus media group has ever worked with
You can't because you don't know you have no way of knowing, you know that we've worked with max Borges
For instance, you just would have no way of knowing that the agency has nothing to do with the the finished product
Um that you're ultimately going to see on your screen on, you know, some other creators
Uh video right like it just it doesn't work like that
um, I just thought it was a very interesting conversation and it's something that um
You know, I was chatting with Colton about it's something that I've talked to Taryn about
It's something that I wanted to talk to you about and this kind of gives me an opportunity
in a forum like this where People can kind of see the thought process and they can they can get some insight into
How, you know, how we operate as a business and how businesses and creators operate more broadly
um
So the agency would work with us and we would have our own lines and it sounds like what you're saying is basically
um You know at the end of the day what's legal is not up to the platform to decide
Which is a position that we've advocated for
publicly, yeah multiple times and and I really do see that put your money where your mouth is to a certain degree
I see the I see the game platform um credit card processing
arguments Very similarly, but I will say that like
Here's a here's a the reason it yeah, can I be edgy for a sec?
You can be as edgy as you want. I mean, it's your uh, uh funeral, right?
What if it's biking funeral specifically what you have you have children?
What if it's uh What if you know, you know how there was like, uh
Man, what's that game? Is it weird that I'd want to be the one that hits the boat?
That guy would be trying really hard. I suspect you all would be
Which is like part of why it's so sick
Oh, anyways Sorry, sorry, I got off topic a little bit
Like it's nothing personal man. Like I don't you know, that's dope. That's like the whole point. I don't even take that negatively
That's freaking sick. I don't even think of taking that negatively to be honest until you said it's nothing personal
um Okay, so it remember raid shadow legends was like an ad for freaking everyone all the time everywhere for years
Yeah, it might even still be um What if there was like a loli game?
Are they a thousand years old? Yeah, yeah
Yeah, for sure. They're like 10,000 year old space goddesses or something
I might have to deal with this because what I'm saying is there might still be lines
But they might be pretty far out there
And like where the hell do you draw this line?
Like the first thing people started talking about in Floatplane chat is genshin
Like no, yeah, I would take an ad for genshin impact. Like but are there absolutely scantily clad?
Ladies that
You have to justify as being a thousand years old probably. I actually don't know. I've not I've not played
Genshin impact. I didn't it's the first thing people said heard of it as I haven't played it either
But I haven't heard of it as one of those types of games um
The scantily cladness. Yeah, but the them being
Looking like young ins Oh, uh, well that one's not scantily clad though
In the cover art, I'm gonna bring up the cover art in the cover art there are scantily clad ones
But this one's not scantily clad. Yeah, hold on here. Here's a reddit thread Dan. Do you want to throw this up?
Not scantily clad Fortunately, which is the only reason that I'm willing to put this on stream
Uh, but definitely young
Yeah, but if they're like who cares if they're not scantily clad, right? I think
Maybe I mean, I don't know what you do in the game. There's all kinds of ways to sexualize romance in the game
I don't know. I've literally I've never played Oh
Iki Yeah
Definitely icky definitely legal
um There's apparently no romance in the game
Okay helps a little bit It's not a negative. Here's the question though. Here's the question though because as soon as we start to make a judgment on genshin
Then we've drawn our line. Uh-huh But as a platform, it's not about our line. It's with legal's legal lines
Yeah, because as soon as you take a stance now, it's a conversation every single time. Yep
So I think you kind of have to say like we are
We don't think this, you know, it
Let's assume the thing we're forget genshin forget whatever else. Let's assume the thing that we're talking about
is something that we strongly oppose
We we could say let's go with gambling Sure, let's go with gambling and we do that, right?
So we we could say on our platforms and do often that we don't like gambling and we don't think it should be able to be
Promoted in the way that it is at the very least. Yeah, I mean time and place for everything
Yeah, you and the boys want to have a poker night or whatever far be it for me to be involved in that
The fact that that used to be illegal is wild I agree and I've said before that I actually I really respect
Uh, john martin's form of gambling because he knew that he had the potential to go too far
So it would bring a fixed amount of money and he would bring a fixed amount of money that could afford him
It would be equivalent of going to like dinner in a show, right?
Movie and dinner and he'd get dinner there probably the the healthiest relationship with gambling
I've been any person I've ever I saw literally zero issue with it
And I'm traditionally a person who dislikes gambling because when I worked at the bread factory
Dudes would get their checks go blow the entire check and not be able to make rent and be
Be homeless when they made enough money to not be homeless because they'd blow it all at the casino, which was
Terrific moderation. Yeah But but there's a lot of people that can't moderate themselves when it comes to gambling
So that's where the problems are and then my main issues with it is how it's advertised and yada yada yada yada
But we can talk about that on here and we can talk about how we don't like these other things
But when you are the
When we're making these decisions for other people we are effectively deciding law for them
And I don't think that's our place
Okay, well, I'll take that perspective. Um, I'll take the
I'll take the perspective chat there were some really good comments from chat
I think some of them don't take this the wrong way guys. I think some of them weren't a little unrealistic
This is in this world is it's it's going to be pretty difficult for you to survive without interacting with any companies
That does things you disagree with Um, yeah
And is that just sort of a defeatist crappy attitude? Sure
I would bet hard cash that you are doing that right now and I don't even mean by talking to us
I mean the fact that this stream if you're watching on twitch
Uh is part of amazon The stream if you're watching on youtube is part of google
every both of those companies are partnered with like
Thousands and thousands of other companies like you you can't you can't necessarily get away from this stuff
It is it is deeply intertwined. Do you have literally anything in your house from nestly likely?
Um, do you even know because there's all the like sub companies and all that kind of stuff
I got caught with cat food I didn't even know they made cat food. I would have had no idea nestly really. Yeah. Yeah, you've told me about that
Yep bonkers DJ spark had a good had a good comment though, you know, so long as it isn't illegal
We're willing to talk, but we won't force our staff to to to work with a company
For you. So if no one on staff wants to touch it, you might have to look elsewhere for that particular production
I think that's a fair a fair stance, you know, that sounds pretty good. I kind of like that. You know, I dig that
Like I think Yeah, that is cool. I think there's ways that
I think there's ways that we can be be more cool about it We have precedents for that when we were talking we at one point in time
We were talking to an adult creator about joining Floatplane And they were they were pretty close to joining and I had to talk with all my staff at the time
And I was like if you don't want to Interact or deal with their content at all
We'll find a way to make sure that you don't have to how do we sequester that how do we place her this away? Yeah
Um, and it was it was like interesting news figured out. Oh go ahead
that's it basically I My pickup is in 15 minutes. Okay. Um, whoops
Should we blast merge messages? Uh, we should probably get through well, okay
The prima rice-sized bionic. I am plant looks really cool. Um, roughly
200 roughly 22 million people in the united states have
uh age-related macular degeneration which can affect your vision the device is two millimeters square
And it can be placed beneath the retina during a two hour procedure after a month of healing
It can be activated and wirelessly connects to a video camera
Mounted on augmented reality glasses that sends visual data to a tiny processor that uses ai to convert images to infrared patterns
And can apparently significantly restore vision in more than 80 percent of 38 trial participants
Um, that sounds really cool. Incredibly cool. Wanted to highlight that. Absolutely. That's there's some good news tech
And in other news xbox wants all your money. This is a follow-up on the recent LTT video
Um, microsoft execs apparently have demanded 30 margin from the xbox department. So that's uh,
2x the industry average apparently dev kits just got a 33 price increase
The rog xbox ally x apparently runs better with Linux or I don't know if it's the x or the non x but whatever
And halo is apparently coming to ps5. Uh, good luck xbox. Um, wish you the best
It's been a great one. Let's try it. Do you want to hit me with a couple merge messages before I have to go?
I wonder if there's a way for me to like I wonder if there's a way for me to like carry this around with me or something while I pack because I have not packed like
I intentionally tilted this up um
So like this place is kind of a disaster area right now
You can't really see like my mess over there. You can one hand it. I believe in you. You can one hand it
Let's just uh, let's just blast through some of these then I'm a little tethered to things, you know
Speaking of tethered are the new cables going to be cat resistant and when's the messenger bag coming?
Uh, they will not be braided and from my experience. That's the main issue. Um, that's going to be a huge thing cables
Are you planning to use the gpd win five? Oh, yeah messenger bag. Is that coming?
Uh messenger bag. Uh, are we working on a messenger bag right now?
Oh, that's a good question for matthew Do you mind do you want to forward that to matthew or is it too is it too late to forward it?
If if you've already curated it. Uh, yeah, it's probably a bit too late. No
I know there's people internally that are pushing hard for a messenger style bag 9 30
I will make sure that they're aware of that. Um, are you planning to use the gpd win five the new game console thing?
Um, uh, we have one Oh, we have one. I'm still I'm still traveling with my ally actually got my og ally right there with the upgraded battery
I haven't actually moved to the x I I'm man. I'm really 50 50 on the ergo. It's really great for certain situations, but it's really
Not what I'm used to And I'm very comfortable on the ally and I don't need the extra performance right now
I'm playing final fantasy tactics. So like whatever good lead in how is final fantasy tactics and uh
Are luke and Dan gonna play it? Wait, hold on win five. Yes. I'm gonna I'm gonna get it and yes luke should play it. Ah, maybe not. I don't know
It's not for everyone. I suspect I would like it actually, but it's very expensive right now. I'm waiting for a discount
Oh, yeah, I have a lot of cued games in front of it. So I'm in I'm in no need of a game right now
I can't even play I haven't been able to play games in like two months. So
Like literally at all Literally wrecked. Yeah, I'm a proud father of a
End for this I'm a proud father of a one-month-old girl. What's the first video game you played with your firstborn Linus?
And uh, have you heard of the Edison motor? Now doing a hybrid big rig
Oh, yeah, that was my face. That's super awesome
That's a good idea. Are they local? They're yeah, they're in bc. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah
I still want to do a video with them. We got to get that going. Yeah. Um
First game I played with my kids, uh
Do a maternal
Yeah, definitely not that The first one I remember playing with my firstborn
Like not just him sitting in my lap while I played the first one. I remember playing with him was uh towerfall
That's funny because that's the first one. I remember playing with him
Yeah, that was fun. Like that was uh, that was a lot of fun playing with you guys. Yeah
What's up? Linus, you talked to ages ago about making more tools for the LTT brand even if they're not innovative as we want LTT branded tools any updates?
We're working on it. We're we're we're building a supplier network
We're building better processes for bringing products to market in a more timely fashion
um, the engineering team is hard at work on many many projects and um
I see no reason why we couldn't become
actually, hold on I see no reason why we couldn't become a tool brand. Um, I think they
I think we're learning a lot. We've made some we've made some mistakes the um
I think we're but yeah, no, I think we've learned a lot and I think that we can apply what we've learned to
um A lot of different categories of tool and make something that's just like really really great and not
Outlandishly priced with great support. I think the support is a really key part of it the trust me bro guarantee
And I think over time as people's memories of how mad they were about me saying that fade because we've put our money
Where our mouth is that may be branding that we even lean into more and more over time is I told you guys to trust me bro and
The ones who did are feeling pretty good about it at this point and let's keep that train going
Are we for time? I like really need to go if there's any more that specifically addressed me then great probably
Nothing directly. I was trying to um, yeah, I was probably not gonna
Get through these we should be good
Okay, I might have to go so uh, wait, are we cutting or is that the end of the show then?
Uh, I don't know how you want to handle that There's some for luke if a luke if a luke buys in the forest and I don't hear it
Does the wend show end? Yes. He is the one that ends the show
I had to end it fair enough before the show started because he said bye to somebody
Oh, what luke why would you do this?
Hey I'm sorry. Okay
Okay, we'll see you again next week then Same bad time same bad channel. Don't do it. See uh
Wait, oh or is it not over? Oh, okay. Well, I'm assuming I'm finishing merch messages, right?
Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Bye. Yeah, we can't leave him hanging. But yeah, see you. Okay
He almost said it. I almost did. I almost I feel like he baited me, but he did he did he did
Yeah, now I gotta like cut him out as well and I also didn't set it to went after dark. It's also frantic
Uh, we're fine button. We'll be our luke cam doesn't have Linus in it, but your chairs
Whoa You know this frame right here, which is Linus is a plus certification has like three spiders living behind it
I needed new vacuum. There's rat stuff everywhere here too. I'm surrounded by traps
I was I was stuck. I I had to take a meeting and I was I couldn't get over to the Labs
Which is where my desk is uh desks, I guess it was weird
But anyways, um, I couldn't get over there in time. So I just ran over to the windset and took it here
Because I was like, this would probably be free. Um
I ran into so many spiders and two different mice
That's great. I was like, it's very lively here when we're not around
I feel like they know like fridays to just like just leave. Yeah. Yeah. Don't disgusting don't come out
All right. Your question is for luke. Yes How is the new build of the store coming building a custom theme or based off horizon?
We'd love to see the behind some scenes of that process
After it goes live It's still a little bit up in the air horizon
uh The is that a specific theme?
Sounds about right I don't think we're currently planning on horizon
There are A few different ones we're looking at we're working with an agency things are kind of I don't know
We're a big company now doing big company stuff. Uh, but yeah, things are not currently set in stone
Yeah, but it's coming Question for the two ls. Well, there's only one now in your opinion. What is the dumbest thing the other has ever done?
Uh, Linus doesn't get to defend himself now
Yeah As an arbiter of the talent, which is the dumbest of all Linus would
Top of mind for Linus, I think he would say
The the pizza heater, but I think there's probably something deeper than that that he'd he'd rip me for
Uh For him
It's either his just like stupid take on the backpack warranty stuff or it's the forum response to steve
Ah It's one of those two
Yeah, and I think I win this one so
Yeah, you do Luke thoughts on the community effort to run the big screen beyond two on Linux
Really glad to not have to dual boot also. Thanks for bringing undies back
Of course mere days after I bought some from ludwig
I had no idea about the big screen beyond two on Linux thing. That sounds amazing
I would be really happy if they got that going. Um, I have still not been able to use it because my house is
Uh broken effectively still waiting for you to use it so that I know if I should spend the oh, you can borrow it
Effort borrow it Oh, yeah, okay. Do it. Yeah. I literally can't use it. You I mean sure you might as well
I'd have to bring my sim rig out again, but like sure
I mean you could hook it up here Yeah, yeah, I guess that's true. You really want it
I think that I mean we have one here that I could play with as well
Fair enough, but it's just like yeah, you can like actually take mine home for it
If you want like it's it's not going to be super soon that I'd be able to use it
So I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, but I mean you might as well profit
Or not if I like it that's the major concern loss. Yeah. Yeah. I mean is it really I'm really excited
I think it's really cool. I was so excited for the first one to come out and then I procrastinated because I'm like that
Yeah, and now there's a second one. So I think I'll probably just get that one I saw the first one and was like pretty confident that they were going to survive to make a second one
And I was like I feel like the second one's gonna be kind of a banger and I waited and I'm happy with my planning on that
Hello first time merch messenger long time viewer. I was wanting to know if luke has read the storm light archive
I think you would really enjoy it. Uh, I'm pretty sure let me look this up really quick
Storm light archive. I'm pretty sure this is on. Oh, brandon sanderson
No, but this is on my list of things to read brandon sanderson is awesome. Um
I have a massive backlog of
Uh, nerd forge has a video on this. What?
What we made massive versions of the storm light archive by brandon sanderson
That's so cool. That's really cool
They're so cool nerd forge is cool. Anyways, yeah, I will read those at some point that will actually happen
My like reading list is not something that just lasts forever and never ever moves forward
Um, it moves forward slowly because I read slowly, but uh, it does move it does move
So I am certain I will read it eventually One of them reached out to maybe do a game jam one of these days, which I think would be a lot of fun
Huh? One of the nerd forge. Oh, yeah
Yeah, that'd be incredible. I didn't even know they did that me neither. That's so cool. But yeah
Terrified. Hi. Do though. Yeah, I know
Hell yeah, that sounds amazing. Hi Linus tuk and tan
uh, given the upcoming tectadopamine
Disrect pipeline direct pipeline. Sorry the words are split. Um, what steps do you think we can take as a society to prevent?
More phone addiction more antisocial behavior
It's tough it's tough because it's so easy, which is the problem promote within your friend group and your relationships uninstalling certain apps
um promote Having like timers on your stuff
um Oh
Try to yeah and try to like
Build habits where you aren't on your phone. Like I had um some really good old buddies of mine
We had a game night not that long ago Uh, where we played the slay the spire board game, which is incredibly good by the way like
Masterful board game one of the best board games ever played and it's four player co-op and it was fantastic and no one was ever on their phones
the whole time And it just like felt cool everyone was very present
So if you build this like this like culture within your group of the people that you're spending time with are not just on their phones all the time
It's good and I have found myself Being not good at this before
Pretty often to be clear. Um, and it's something that I'm currently actively working on
um But yeah support others in working on it and work on it yourself and just try to be the
The brightness you want to see in the world
That isn't your phone screen Have you heard of arc raiders? Yeah
That sounds positive Yeah, I played the beta and it was freaking sick the okay the the problem that I have the mechanics feel great
The the droid things. I don't know what they're actually called the robots in the in the game people want them to be nerfed
I strongly disagree. I think those need to be terrifying and
This is wild the way they are. Yeah, I saw some early builds of this. It looked amazing. I was like
new But then third person and like it looks super fun
It it what I had a black semi pve, right?
Semi it's still it's still definitely pvp, but you can
Play a good match Without interacting with people, but that's also true with tarkov
Yeah, of course So if you consider tarkov semi pvp, which I don't think people would I think they'll just consider pvp
Um, then it's effectively the same my one issue with it and I have not played since their last beta. Well, I guess it's
Just coming out Thursday. Do they mean next Thursday? Whatever. I don't have a computer right now that like works
So, uh, I have not been in the loop, but uh
Uh, yeah single paired karkov. Okay, fine fair enough. Um
But I I don't suspect I'm gonna be able to play this on launch. I haven't been able to play battlefield 6
I'm a little behind right now But the problem that I had in the beta was that the loop didn't feel great when you were in the game
Things that mechanically felt fantastic the movement felt really good. A lot of the guns felt really good
um the the combat both with with droid things and and clankers and humans
Was with was quite good. The balance of things seemed pretty good. Um, but the looting kind of sucked
and the Why do I care was pretty extremely lacking. Um
What is the point in tarkov? It's pretty obvious. Um
Why you're doing what you're doing the storyline is there the storyline of tarkov despite being
No one ever reads any of the tasks and all that kind of stuff the storyline is very straightforward
You're stuck in this like quarantine zone Um
You're fighting to survive and you need to try to get out
So you're gathering survival supplies which include like all these little tiny micro gun bits and attachments and stuff in arc raiders
It's like I got the the blue hand grip
That's awesome. I'm excited. I can't wait till I get the purple hand grip, which is better
And it's just it's very boring and feels empty in regards to the looting and the progression
um So I hope they figure that out and I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way so
uh Yeah, but the feel and stuff is like fantastic and I do suspect that they can figure out the story stuff
So hopefully they do Hi Dan luke and blindness well just us two I guess you've spoken previously about contacting wendel for help with complex technical
Topics. Yeah, he's our tech support. What's the most obscure technical knowledge? Wendel has provided that impressed you
Who does wendel go to? Steve bair himself
Just go to his conscious asks himself questions
And he answers it Blindness, I'm sorry Linus. How do how do Linux work?
Yeah, he's just shrugs says oh, let me call wendel and then pauses and looks at his phone and then has a little cry
I feel like it's like an animated short
For some reason I just watched that'll happen. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Yes. That was beautiful. That was fantastic
Uh most obscure technical knowledge dude. I don't know it's just constant with him one of the
Just I'm just gonna glaze the crap out of wendel one of the
One of the coolest things about hanging out with wendel is that
You like Feel dumb because he's so smart, but then he doesn't make you feel dumb. Does that make any sense?
I've sound dumb just saying that It's it's less. I don't think talking to wendel you feel dumb
I think when you talk to wendel, it's like hey, I don't have this knowledge. Yeah, and then he's like
Yeah, that's a good way saying here's the knowledge and you're like, thanks wendel come along this interesting journey
I have learned Yeah, and he wants to
And he's also interested in learning things himself. Yeah, and he's just I don't know. He's just such a wholesome
Amazing positive dude a source of reason in the world where there are few
um Wendel's great
And last one I've got um this one's I think mostly for you
How would you like to see a tape-to-tape and shorzy crossover?
Certainly think it would be a fruitful fruitful collab. I think it would be fantastic
I've mentioned this on wancho before my the reason why I mentioned is because shorzy has their own hockey game
And while it is in early access, I did not enjoy it so much that I played for like
I think 15 20 minutes and then all that forward and never looked back
And we'll wait for the full release release and then try again for sure
But I really wish they just collaborated with tape-to-tape
And made like a team and tape-to-tape or something or like an alternate campaign that was like shorzy based that would be sick
um I I I think two incredibly small indie games both being
Hockey games is a lot to ask especially with them both being early access at the same time guys
Come on
But hey if it's good sick sounds good I bought it because I wanted to support shorzy because I I freaking love that show. It's fantastic
um But yeah, it wasn't uh my happiest game purchase ever again. It's early access. I can't judge it too hard, but
Yeah And that's all I got and that's it
Same bedtime same bad channel. Bye
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