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Livestream VOD – May 1, 2026 @ 20:16 – Microsoft Has Promised to Fix Windows - WAN Show May 1, 2026

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2026-05-02 · 34,834 words · ~174 min read
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0:13 Really What you acknowledged twitch chat I did that's crazy.
0:55 I think we might just have to go live with the show today.
2:31 Yeah, I'd love to Threat locker will live watch updates install and scan them as they come in that's actually kind of...
3:33 You Hello world and oh welcome to the way and show happy Friday everybody We've
5:48 The show is brought to you by messy Oh, dude, Squarespace and Ninja one along with our rap partner D brand and our la...
61:17 Yeah Speaking of the Linus vibe coding challenge the project is officially dead.
86:10 Yeah, let's talk about that instead.
93:58 modern problem Just does a note for anyone watching.
99:58 All right, let's pick another topic Oh, this is cool.
103:15 Man Dang 3d printing you crazy one.
106:24 First of all just flat line used no brain power Had a thought Sounds terrible.
109:35 um All right, moving on to our next topic I'm gonna pick one Maryland video has
111:03 I think you're more intimately familiar than me No Listen I Colorado California
136:22 Uh Hey speaking of things that are there and might not annoy you toyota's limited edition $3,500 crown gaming chair.
147:54 Right, okay calm down next topic Android developers are revolting against google
157:21 Okay, so 2026 and beyond is these Oh, okay.
182:38 The Marcus the Ikea Marcus That's it nice solid It's cheap.
198:06 Chain decos was my answer Dan.

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0:00 What's up flow plane and technically twitch chat
0:13 Really What you acknowledged twitch chat I did that's crazy. No one's irredeemable
0:23 Whoa, I mean they're on twitch
0:26 Okay, we're just we're just we're just kidding you guys we just we're just kidding you guys
0:30 We don't actually hate twitch if that's an old enough meme though that like I feel like a lot of current people might not yeah
0:37 We always used to meme on twitch chat
0:40 Because they were kind of toxic awful. Yeah, they deserved it. Yeah, everything that we ditched. Yeah
0:55 I think we might just have to go live with the show today. Sorry. I don't have a ton of time
1:00 No, no, you're good
1:05 By the way fan
1:09 Sorry, is it yours or mine or both? Oh
1:13 Man, what is my computer doing?
1:17 What the crap Running Windows 31% running Windows 31% what is the threat locker? Oh
1:28 Hold on. No. No Windows modules installer
1:35 Classic they both hit at the same time
1:40 So I'm sitting at like okay, it didn't stay at 30 is that about 20% CPU utilization
1:46 Okay, that's what actually it's actually chilling out a little bit now. Yeah. All right. All right. All right
1:54 I saw your game links video and it's awesome, but why is your on-screen voice different than your when voice?
2:07 Different Mike on when I'm probably mostly like chilling and
2:11 On that video, I'm like very presentary and also very different Mike's
2:31 Yeah, I'd love to Threat locker will live watch updates install and scan them as they come in that's actually kind of sick
2:40 I Make sense why you'd have a brutal spike, but it's kind of cool. Yeah, I'm ready whenever dude
2:47 I actually support this behavior. Yeah, it's kind of based
2:55 Okay, all right, are you gonna are you gonna signal us when you have your heart out?
3:01 My hard what is no
3:04 Ah, it's it's less it's less of a hard out and more of a beat traffic out got it
3:10 Oh, so the sooner the better. Okay, you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
3:19 Yeah, do it
3:33 You
3:38 Hello world and oh welcome to the way and show happy Friday everybody
3:43 We've got a great show lined up for you It is the first day of the second month of good news when show that's right
3:52 Oh the ratio of good news to bad news has to be I forget what we settled on
3:58 But it's pretty much mostly good news this week starting with something that is like a blast from my childhood past
4:05 The one and only Zs night original developer of Zs and ES is
4:12 back Z-SNES is back completely rewritten from scratch. I actually haven't tried it yet, but I intend to this weekend
4:20 I'm super excited to talk about that. Also. We've got to be talking about. Oh, no, I don't want to talk about that
4:28 Oh, this one's good Microsoft has committed in something that they are codenaming
4:35 K2 seemingly as an acknowledgement of the mountain they have to climb a
4:41 concerted effort to fix Windows very excited to talk about that. What else we got. Yeah, I took mine
4:49 You know, I tried baby Toyota did what people have thought about for a really long time
4:54 Which is they took a chair from a car and they put it on a stand with some wheels on it
4:58 And they called it a computer chair toy was limited edition thirty five hundred dollar crown gaming chair has heating cooling in USB-C
5:05 Seat seat Pelt Buckle Didn't even know that part. It's so expensive
5:12 Cheaper than a real Toyota That's true
5:16 Maybe not much more than a used one And I don't know we've got stuff. There's other stuff we sponsored a drift car
5:25 Really you went with that. I don't know sure
5:30 It's all better one right under it
5:48 The show is brought to you by messy Oh, dude, Squarespace and Ninja one along with our rap partner D brand and our laptop partner razor and our chair partner
5:58 Also, razor if you were a famous musician, what genre would you?
6:04 What's the most annoying genre? No, I think it's called noise
6:08 No, I think it's called noise that a thing Dan
6:12 Tell me something. What do you think I would that knows way more infinitely more about this than either of us
6:16 I'm going with sure. I would definitely be
6:19 Cringy cringy agree. Yeah, okay. I'd be cringy pop style music for like moms at this point
6:27 I think I think that would be that would be my best shot. I don't know Taylor Swift
6:34 If I could if I had half the talent that Taylor Swift has in one thigh then I could hope to be
6:40 You know more like Taylor Swift, but no, no, I'm afraid I might have thighs, but they're not talented
6:45 Let's jump right Noise music or simply noise is a subgenre of experimental music that is characterized by its use of
6:54 Unwanted noise as a primary musical element
6:59 So that's that's I think that's probably the most annoying one
7:03 It's just terrible often featuring little or no melody rhythm or harmony
7:08 That just sounds like someone was taking the piss just terrible and then it just
7:15 Accidentally a whole genre
7:19 No, no, we're not Everyone knows about noise. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, Microsoft has created an internal initiative called to K2 to fix
7:29 Windows 11 probably something for a while though
7:32 They have finally admitted to themselves that Windows 11 is a giant boatload of suck and
7:39 According to sources inside Microsoft is using the K2 initiative to fix the operating systems biggest pain points and win
7:48 Unintended back user trust the company is also reportedly
7:53 intentionally pivoting away from shipping new features as fast as possible and
7:59 Refocusing on quality, you know, it's kind of amazing
8:03 how every time a company is
8:07 Like having big big problems. The idea is hey
8:12 Why don't we stop intentionally sucking?
8:17 Actually, I wish that was often the solution. I went on a rant about this recently but not on camera. So here you go
8:24 Ready for it. Here comes the Tim Hortons when show rant
8:28 Oh, yeah, this made me so angry. I was talking to an American or something and they were basically like well
8:35 Yeah, yeah, right, you know, right like bud like Tim Hortons, right?
8:38 Y'all Canadians y'all like the Tim Hortons, right bud and I'm like triggered and I was basically like only triggered
8:44 okay Let me clarify because yes, I
8:49 Do like Tim Hortons, but there's a bit of a temporal issue with that statement because while it was once true
8:57 For me and every proud Canadian it is no longer true Tim Hortons is now owned by
9:04 Restaurant brands which seriously did they go to that to that LTT Store school of naming?
9:12 We're gonna have a company that owns restaurant. What should we call it? Let's call it fucking restaurant brands
9:19 That aside, okay restaurant brands is owned by like black rock and some
9:26 Brazilian conglomerate like a bunch of private equity. There is nothing
9:31 Canadian about Tim Hortons anymore anymore. Yeah, and after all of that happened Tim Hortons went at least here on the west coast
9:39 I've been told that on the east and the eastern side some of them do still bake the doughnuts fresh in store
9:45 Oh, really here on the west coast they went from baking the doughnuts fresh in store every day
9:50 Their slogan used to be always fresh always Tim Hortons that was their slogan now
9:57 They're still always Tim Hortons, but they're a gross messed up not fresh version of it
10:03 Like you you could get a brand new like the freshest donut in Tim Hortons
10:07 It'll taste like it's three days old these days. It's so it's so bad. It's it's absolutely
10:14 Disgusting how did I get on the subject of Tim Hortons? I literally to be honest
10:20 Oh, right when companies start sucking right? Okay, so this was a while back
10:25 This must have been like a year ago at this point But it like it made its way into my news feed that Tim Hortons was experiencing less than stellar growth and
10:34 Customer engagement and on a shareholder call. Okay on a shareholder call. They're literally acknowledging soft sales and they go
10:43 Yeah, so here's what our plan. We're gonna really like double down on the
10:49 Canadiana in our marketing and like, you know little kids skating on outdoor hockey rinks and maple leaves and beavers and all those
10:58 Very Canadian things in order to connect more to our Canadian cut. Here's an idea
11:03 Why don't you make fucking edible food? Yeah as a way to connect with your Canadian customers?
11:09 I used to when I would travel abroad
11:12 So when I'm at airports basically I had a routine where every single time I would go to Tim Hortons
11:18 So like the last thing I did in Canada was like one of the most Canadian things you could do
11:22 We just go to Tim Hortons. Go to Tim Hortons get some chili. I haven't done it. Yep. Get a sandwich get get a donut
11:30 They all suck now haven't done it in years. They even fucked up the chili. How do you fuck up chili?
11:36 It's literally just like meat and tomato paste and beans and then you just put it over heat
11:43 Okay, the chili is fine, but the problem is the bun sucks though
11:47 The chili has gotten worse as well. Has it really okay? I think so. I haven't had it in a while
11:50 It feels like it I might just be like dude annoyed the bun taste. I also use the bun as a spoon
11:56 Well, yeah, that's the whole point being way worse may have impacted my opinion of the chili
12:01 Okay, because I used to go and get Tim Hortons chili for my lunch like seriously
12:07 This is embarrassing, but like two to three times a week when I was working at NCIX. I'd get my chili
12:13 I'd get my bun. I'd get usually when they had them. I'd get the blueberry fritter
12:17 Oh the blueberry fritter the only problem with the blueberry fritter was how often they ended up undercooking them
12:23 Which looking back on it is maybe why they stopped baking them in store. The point is that doesn't matter
12:26 I would get my blueberry fritter I'd get my lemon iced tea and that was it the lunch of champions that lunch took
12:34 OCC as a product line from like
12:37 $3,000 a month to $100,000 a month. Okay, that's what Tim Hortons chili did in his prime
12:45 now I Wouldn't feed my dog that bun. I don't even have a dog
12:56 Anyway, so yeah, I wish that every company came up with the idea of how about making the product suck less
13:04 But restaurant brands couldn't do it
13:07 Anyway, I genuinely think Tim Hortons was so important to Canada's national identity that that sale should have been blocked
13:15 I actually Strongly agree it like actually was
13:20 Like our Prime Minister would talk about it globally like this was this was it was not a
13:26 This was not just some random like restaurant Yeah, like like going to Tim Hortons in the morning for breakfast is like
13:33 Was might as well be the canteen of Canada. Yeah, it's just yeah, and it's ruined now
13:39 Like I'm trying to think of like what would be any like I don't know of a single example
13:42 It would be like Ford Like not be it would be like Ford selling to like
13:47 Company, yeah, or to Geely or something like imagine as an American if you're watching this right now
13:53 If like fucking Ford did not I don't think I don't think Ford is as tied into the American ideas as Tim Hortons was
14:01 Depends, you know like like built for tough like dude
14:05 Is there a country on earth that loves the f-150 the way that America does like let's let's be real
14:11 No, but still let's be real here. I still think I
14:15 Still think it's more like what would be what would be like what would be like like at like a German equivalent
14:21 Like what would what would be so if so offensive
14:25 So like Guys guys hit me hit me with it. You know what? No, we can move on we can move on
14:30 Okay, so coming back to Windows on the performance side the start menu is being completely
14:37 Rewritten in Microsoft's own when UI 3 framework, which is supposed to make it 60% faster and more responsive
14:43 That is such a see that's such a baffling one to me is like when I open the start. What are you even doing?
14:50 Like there's there's there's there's things that I do on computers that just
14:56 Completely bewilder me how they can take as long as they do a perfect example of this
15:00 We were running a benchmark on set yesterday. We were
15:03 Performance testing. Oh, we ran SLI. We grabbed some 30 90 ti's
15:08 Okay, and we like ran like modern games that would still run. It's not really SLI
15:14 It's more of like the direct X 12 multi GPU thing But hey, we ran them and in the best case scenario it was actually pretty competitive with a 50 90 and like 3d mark
15:24 It's pretty pretty crazy. Anyway, the point is when we were running 3d mark. I was just like I was
15:29 Losing my mind because it's just always bothered me. You know how it does that thing where it's like
15:36 detecting system configuration
15:39 And it takes like a minute
15:43 To do what yeah, like how long does steam hardware survey take how long does it take to get a string of characters for
15:50 For the identifier of a piece of heart like we run we run at billions of operations per second on modern computing device
15:57 You've got to be kidding me or like when a Wi-Fi access point takes like forever to authenticate the password
16:03 It's like it's literally eight bits. Oh, I know it isn't okay. I know it isn't
16:12 But but it seems so trivial and in the same way the start menu is like what are you even actually doing like all of this
16:21 Has got to be pre-cached What are you doing? You're not doing
16:26 anything why why is there like a
16:29 Delay well, I don't know enough of the the difference between like what is it when you are or whatever?
16:37 And react native as far as my standing goes react native was calling when you I so they're the
16:44 The start menu right now is a react native app as far as my understanding goes
16:48 Yeah, and if they're just removing that layer and stepping down one and going to win UI
16:54 I don't know how this stack works. I read quickly that apparently at least sometimes it is calling when you I
17:00 So I'm assuming they're just stepping down a layer like maybe you gains a bunch of performance there
17:04 The fact that any part of Windows native UI is react native is wild to me
17:10 Oh, this is great. G freak has another good one
17:13 I hate it when Windows takes forever to tell me my passwords wrong. I accidentally press enter instead of you know enter anything like
17:20 Just immediately when you when you do it like six or seven times or whatever that could be a that can be a security feature
17:26 Where it's like delaying you being able to put in again for us and whatnot, but when it just like
17:30 Takes a while it's dude. It's like a handful of characters that either the hash matches or it doesn't for the crying out loud
17:37 Anyway, Microsoft is also reportedly removing ads from its start menu
17:42 Again like a bold move bold move. This is like restaurant sales falling. They come up with the bold idea of making food fresh
17:50 And then for gaming Microsoft is treating this is
17:56 Crazy, this is probably the best that's marketing for steam. Oh, yeah
18:02 That valve could have never afforded with all their billions and billions of dollars of I'm Gabe Newell
18:09 Rather than buying a yacht I will literally buy the company that makes the yachts all of the money that they have could never have purchased
18:17 Microsoft is treating valves steam OS as a performance benchmark
18:22 They want those gaming performance to be comparable to steam OS on identical hardware
18:28 Which they say is critical because the next Xbox is reportedly going to run Windows
18:35 11 oh Man, they were doing really good up until this is this have they hard confirmed that there was gonna be another Xbox
18:43 Yeah, project Scorpio. I think it's called like the new CEO
18:47 Healy healy helix helio Helio something helix helix. Thank you like next to chat
18:55 File Explorer is also getting major performance fixes with a third-party app called file pilot being used as the performance benchmark
19:02 They're shooting for this is like embarrassing. Who makes file pilot like no offense
19:07 No offense. You're probably no, it's it's I mean, it's the opposite. It's a huge
19:12 Brag if you're file pilot
19:15 That's amazing, but I don't even know who you are and the fact that Microsoft a multi-trillion dollar company is looking at this
19:24 Going yeah These guys are crushing us. We need to do we need to do better. Okay. Who are you?
19:32 Manifesto fast dude a system commands. This is actually sick. Hold on. We're getting is file pilot dope file pilot is one guy
19:41 dude Catholic Croatian husband father of five one
19:48 Extremely busy guy Donking on Windows. Look at that. That's awesome
19:54 Hey, what am I looking at here? Oh, this is file pilot. Yeah, he's selected a bunch of things and select a system
20:00 He can search. Yeah, I never even like thought about that. That's awesome
20:04 Finally Windows update is being reworked to with the goal of making Windows 11 reliable enough that you only need to restart once a month
20:13 You Dude file pilots cool, you might if we're doing that thing you should maybe include Microsoft Microsoft setting the bar
20:23 Okay, we want to we want to beat the performance of an operating system that the games literally don't even run natively on
20:31 We want to beat this one dude in
20:35 Explorer like the most critical thing in Windows that literally is like Windows 3.1
20:42 Okay, and we want to only have to restart your computer once a month. They put the bar
20:48 Here come on you guys
20:52 Also, the task bar is getting back. At least they put the bar somewhere moved and resized
20:57 K2 is reportedly not going to be a single release
21:01 But an ongoing initiative that started in the second half of 2025 with most changes rolling out through the end of 2026 and into
21:09 2027
21:12 Discussion question and for this I need you to put away the chat
21:18 close your eyes and Search deep inside your feelings search your feelings Luke. Okay
21:26 Channeling the force right? Do you think Windows can win back its users and you're searching your feelings because
21:35 You know you at least used to be a Windows user
21:39 Or is it too little too late search your feelings Luke?
21:42 I
21:47 Mean I think I think so and the reason why I think so is I think most of them haven't left yet
21:53 Yeah, I think most of them are very vocally angry as honestly
21:56 They should be and this is why you should be because we're seeing action come of the rage that the community has had
22:04 I think some people have left I've left
22:08 I'm not stopping using Linux when the Linux challenge is over. There's a spoiler. I'm going to continue using it
22:15 But it isn't it isn't completely too late the approach that I'm taking right now is
22:21 What is the most appropriate tool for me to use to have the least frustration?
22:26 the the most good time
22:29 Whatever you want to call it. Yep, and be able to operate and get stuff done without significant
22:36 Like inability to do the thing that I want to do. Yeah, and
22:40 right now that is almost always pushing me to
22:44 Linux either meant on my laptop cash use on my desktop. I
22:48 do Plan on ending with a dual boot setup on my desktop
22:53 But it's honestly completely unnecessary on my laptop and I will be continuing to run mint
22:57 If this bar shifts and it makes more sense for me to use Windows
23:03 I'd probably just use Windows But that is not currently true and like I'm trying to be honestly like pretty
23:14 Would I say about that objective? Yeah. Yeah, and like I I
23:20 Whipped I went over to my Windows drive
23:24 Because I still have my Windows drive in my desktop. It's just been sitting there untouched for like two months
23:28 I jumped over my Windows drive just to like Okay, like is it going to function? I haven't even booted into it for two months
23:34 I don't know it like did I corrupt it in that time? Maybe I thought I know where this is going
23:38 I've ran Windows update for a while got annoyed by a few things booted back into cashy and was like nice
23:46 It took dude it took and I know I haven't updated in a while. Okay. Okay. All right. It took
23:55 Forever to update it was so long
23:59 Super super long time I it felt so stupid that like the control panel seems like it wants to fight me
24:08 Like there's just there's just like I'm trying to do multiple things at once and it's like no
24:12 No, I'm just gonna like redirect. I guess you just have one of me open. It's like, what do you what are you talking about?
24:19 Search was just annoying again. Just like everything. It was just like
24:23 Felt gross so I went back All right, let's jump into Windows insiders actually, sorry
24:29 There's an interesting question from chat at at zm said have you tried macOS recently? If not, would you give it a try? I?
24:36 More open to trying other operating systems now. I recently learned mint and cashy. Do you want to borrow my neo?
24:41 I'm not using it right now. It's on my desk. I don't necessarily think so
24:46 But what I was gonna add is that I was using my mom's neo for a bit. Mm-hmm. It was totally fine. I
24:53 Do find macOS a little weird. I don't know if I would fully get used to it
24:58 There's still don't think it's for me really There's some stuff that I find just completely unnecessary and irritating about macOS the fact that you have to click on a window first to
25:09 Make it the focus window before you can interact with a thing
25:13 Huh, I see it both ways like on Windows sometimes you can like if a window like pops up and you're like about to click something
25:21 You can like accidentally interact with something that you didn't mean to and I can see how the macOS way
25:28 Kind of prevents that But also it's just it just creates a second click like anytime
25:35 I'm switching between things and I do not find that to be
25:39 Great, there's a couple. Yeah, there's a couple little things like that There's a couple things that feel a little clunky to me just because it I don't know. It's just not really my style
25:47 I do think however at this point in time
25:51 If there was a killer app on macOS, I wouldn't flinch using it
25:55 Yeah, which I think is not true as of a year ago
25:58 So like if I was an editor and it was like, oh boy, I'm gonna have to use final cut. It's like, okay
26:04 I mean if I have a Mac, yeah, sounds good more Windows news though
26:08 Windows insiders can now pause updates indefinitely in 35-day increments
26:13 Windows insiders can oh and there's no cap on renewals. This is a Windows in
26:18 Crying out loud. Okay, we need to do a thing where the the the title and the first line are not the same
26:26 Yeah, no, I completely agree. Yeah, also indefinitely for 35 days. Yeah
26:31 So so for as long as you want you can keep saying 35 days later
26:36 35 days later Okay, you can also restart or shut down without being forced into an update and restart
26:44 Previously you got five weeks max before Windows would force these updates
26:49 This is only available in the experimental channel, which replaced the old dev and canary channels
26:54 Microsoft's own description Features here may change get delayed or not ship at all
26:58 So the people testing this are the ones who opted into the most bleeding edge
27:02 Pre-release builds because they want updates as early as possible
27:06 Regular Windows users who've been getting forced restarted mid-meeting for a decade don't have this yet
27:10 And there's no timeline or confirmation for a general rollout. Now
27:15 Our discussion question is how did it take Microsoft over a decade to let people decide when their own computer updates and
27:22 My crazy hot take responses. I actually don't like this
27:28 Crazy people should probably update their computers. I when I did my first
27:33 macOS challenge. So the first time I switched to macOS. I think it was on the 5k iMac
27:39 Was the first time I like used nothing but I nothing but macOS for 30 days or 60 days or however long it was
27:45 The thing that was most life-changing about it for me in a positive way
27:50 Was the way that macOS handled updates at that time and it still does actually and that is that it would say
27:58 Hey, there's an update like a little you know little thing and then you'd be like
28:03 K and Then you would come in the next day in the morning and everything would be exactly where you left it and your computer would have
28:11 Installed all the updates and then opened everything back up right where you left it
28:16 Pausing updates is not the solution better handling of
28:21 Saving all of my work saving my state and then restoring my state and just doing the update when I'm not using my computer is
28:30 in my opinion a Way more elegant solution like I I get I get like I get agitated
28:39 When you know someone hands me their phone or their computer to use and I see that they're running like a year-old build of
28:47 Whatever Something I've really started to enjoy is I actually system update way more often on Linux than I did on Windows
28:55 But I really like that it just updates everything
28:59 Like that's awesome like I'll get discord updates. I'll get any other software that I have it'll just update my entire system all at once
29:07 I'm not individually updating programs Are you asking for the mic? I mean the Microsoft Store is the thing that exists and Windows can manage your updates for you
29:14 But I think most of us just make it not terrible though
29:17 Like I that but honestly I think that's really the solution like games for Windows would have been fine if it wasn't dog crap
29:26 Microsoft Store would be totally fine people like package managers on Linux. They just don't always
29:34 Suck complete, but and a lot of them Microsoft
29:38 So yeah, the first one that I had on on Kashi sucked and then I went with KDE and now I actually really like it
29:43 but And then the one that comes packages with mint is like fantastic to be honest
29:49 But it's it's very up and down but the Microsoft Store in my opinion is like the the problem
29:54 Yeah, and the fact that Windows update and the Microsoft Store are not integrated. Yeah, like crazy
30:02 Like if the best way to install stuff on Windows was Microsoft Store because Microsoft Store wasn't an annoying piece of crap and
30:08 Also, because that way it would just auto update along with Windows update
30:12 I just made everything really smooth and like why do I have to go digging for a driver update?
30:16 And I know that Microsoft has actually done a lot of really good work around like automatic driver management
30:23 but the fact that some of it is
30:26 Over here and some of it is like it'll never update unless I like go and get it and some of it is handled by like
30:34 Armory crate and some of it is in Windows update and like the fact that it's everywhere is
30:41 It's one of those things where The first thing that someone would would tell me from Microsoft or even you know a viewer would tell me is well, that's not
30:51 X's fault, you know, or that's because of
30:55 You know this and that might be true It can still be solved and and you know what those things are super super true
31:04 But you know what as as a user from a user perspective, I don't give a flying who's fault it is
31:10 Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what matters is that it's a terrible user experience and
31:17 Somebody needs to fix it like the way that
31:22 This is while you think of that This is what I'm talking about like all the time when I talk about how it's actually it's not even here right now
31:29 So I keep just trying it but my my laptop when I talk about how it's actually easier and like
31:34 Less annoyance and more productivity to use it. This is what I'm talking about
31:39 I don't have to go around and update all these individual apps I'm not like part way through working on something and then I need to open another app to do something and oh my god
31:46 Now that needs an update whatever. No, I just update once and it does everything and it's fine and it works
31:53 It's great. Everyone Freaks you out when you go to any arch based distro because they're like oh, it's rolling you're gonna update
32:01 It's gonna break everything When I go to update on Kashi, it checks arch news. Oh
32:08 No, it and it'll be like oh no this one might require manual intervention
32:13 You might not want to solve this right now and it's like okay, and I just close it and then I wait until it doesn't
32:18 Just do it that way like it's Harry G made a good point the driver nightmares because of third parties
32:24 They don't want to ship their drivers view Windows update because they can't bundle their bloatware with it
32:28 So then Microsoft should just straight up stop Wickel certifying anything that
32:33 Requires bloatware to be shipped with it like these are things that Microsoft flex your muscle man does like they're they flex their muscle to do
32:40 the wrong things Like they're flexing their muscle to put stupid candy crush in my stupid operating system
32:47 No flex your muscle to do things that enhance the user experience and make Windows more secure and
32:55 Faster and more powerful and more usable
32:59 All right, let's jump into
33:03 Okay, this is one of our bad news is for this week
33:08 Intel has reportedly canceled discreet gaming GPUs in the upcoming XE 3p arc
33:16 Celestial family according to Intel leaker Jake Hain
33:20 Intel canceled their discreet GPUs So these are the add-in cards for Celestial long ago. That means that the arc B580
33:29 So this is their battle mage generation will remain Intel's latest gaming GPU with no clear successor in sight
33:38 XE 3p will show up in data center and workstation products. Just not gaming cards
33:44 The next gen XE 4 druid architecture is expected late 2027
33:49 but whether it gets a gaming GPU in
33:53 Jake Hinn's words is up in the air Intel has not confirmed or denied any of this
33:59 Our discussion question here is if Intel quietly walks away from gaming GPUs. What happens to GPU pricing?
34:08 The answer is it goes up
34:12 However, however, the answer is nothing however, unfortunately, I
34:18 I really want to keep the faith. This is something that me to former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger
34:25 allowed to continue Intel's discreet GPU
34:30 Ambitions and I really hope that liputan
34:34 Does not kill. I know that there's a lot of like issues with the consumer cards that you know, like being low-margin and
34:44 Catering to a super noisy high maintenance customer base. Let's face it gamers are not the easiest customers to deal with
34:54 but I really do believe and
34:57 If they're the strongest argument that I can make for this is so does Jensen Huang who is the CEO of
35:05 From time to time the world's most valuable company I really do believe that the innovation on the gaming side
35:12 makes the enterprise and professional
35:16 sides better and stronger for all the work that they do and
35:21 Also gives you a volume market that you can dump silicon into to help fund all the development that you need to do like you
35:28 I don't think it makes sense to build a GPU business that doesn't have a consumer ARM
35:34 If you've all like you've already done so much of the work for alchemist and battle mage
35:41 To fix the backwards compatibility and to refine the architecture
35:46 Please please just give us a bigger desktop version of
35:52 You know what you're already shipping like amazing
35:57 Technology on on like laptop like please don't let it die and if you have to skip celestial
36:05 Fine don't skip druid. Don't skip druid
36:10 We need more options and gamers. It's like the Windows thing like gamers are
36:15 They're mad at Microsoft. They're mad at NVIDIA But you've got to give them a better option or they're just gonna begrudgingly stay there forever and like oh man
36:24 Like Intel continues to put in the work on the software side. You've got to give us hardware to run it on
36:32 Let's go yeah, you know yeah
36:37 Thank you for coming to my TED talk
36:42 Dan what are we supposed to be doing? You can keep doing topics or we can do the CW announcement. Oh, I feel like I should probably talk about the CW announcements
36:50 Do you want to do you want to fire up the site? Sure this week? It's a huge
36:55 Week for a creator warehouse. Is shipstorms still running?
37:01 Yes, looks like it I believe so so the shipstorm sale is
37:06 Still running so now is an amazing time to pick up
37:10 I mean basically anything at LTT Store
37:13 So we've got buy more save more on our blank t-shirts. We've got deals running on our scribe driver bolt action
37:20 Pen and pencil as well as our long sleeve t-shirts and then hold on hold on
37:26 Let me see if I can find the details and we have some super cool new items
37:29 So shipstorm a free shipping across Canada on orders over 150 and worldwide on over orders over 225
37:36 And then on the US site. Oh, no, I wish I had these details ready. I'm so sorry you guys
37:41 That that and then on the US site shipstorm is yeah
37:46 Free US wide shipping on orders over 150 and then Floatplane supporter plus
37:51 So if you're on Floatplane at the supporter plus tier, it actually goes down to just a hundred US dollars
37:56 So it's a great time to join Floatplane. Also. We have some new arrivals
38:02 So yeah, we'll put that Luke's laptop. We have some new prints for our party shirts
38:08 Yeah, these are flipping amazing want to give us want to give us a close-up of that
38:15 Are you serious right now laptop zoom this touchpad is a little weird. It's not the site. It's the touchpad cursors. Yeah
38:22 Some of them are our our glasses. How cute is that hands some of them are pointers, right? That's fun
38:29 Yeah, and then we've also got okay. This one's this one's sick
38:34 Let's are you okay? That works. It's there we go
38:37 Yeah, so this is like a very kind of 90s and like 90s screensaver and computing and also
38:45 I don't know work from home. It's got a whole bunch of different like vibes like work from the beach
38:51 Kind of yeah, like the palm trees and stuff just like
38:55 Don't mind me here chilling on my like CRT laptop or whatever
38:59 And then this one's meant to just be like a very wearable
39:03 Lollipop Lollipop print totally not inspired by anything else that looks like that. It's lollipops. It's
39:12 It's it's it's candies. It's umbrellas. It definitely is not a beach ball
39:20 100% not a beach ball. We've also got the spinning wheel of death pin set. Okay. Well now we've
39:28 Really gotten rid of any plausible deniability that we could have had around where that design inspiration came from
39:35 So here's our pin set that is yeah, definitely not a beach ball except for the one that definitely is a beach ball
39:41 So we've got candy umbrella as well as a lollipop in there
39:45 What else do we got? Yo, yeah, so you can get yours at LMG GG slash party shirt and LMG GG slash
39:52 wheel of death If you're looking for something that's a little bit more low-key, we've also got two new polo colors plus a restock on
40:02 Black so soft cotton blend with a bit of stretch so it's comfortable without feeling sloppy clean simple look that works
40:08 Whether you dress it up or keep it casual These are just easy to put on pieces that go with pretty much anything and that you can wear it pretty much
40:14 Anywhere and you can shop at LMG GG slash polos
40:19 We also do this kind of fun thing where we have like a little kind of splash of accent color down there
40:24 There you go polo shirts dress blues brilliant white and black
40:31 Look a bunch of happier pluff looks come on Reese would kill you to spot
40:35 Love that guy. We we did an upgrade for him yesterday
40:38 We're bringing back setup doctor and his setup
40:42 Needed some doctoring. He streams he games. He does like unboxings of fancy shoes
40:48 He had so many shoes So we helped a little bit with the organization of that. We got him like a new desk set up and he tufts
40:57 That's like carpet tufting and so we got like a like a much more ergonomic space efficient setup in his little room
41:05 He does all those things. So that was a that was a fun shoot guys. Don't miss that one lots of good vibes
41:11 Also, okay. Yeah, that's pretty much it. So yeah now's a great time to get an order in also
41:16 I think that a lot of people probably missed it, but
41:23 Hold on where are they? Yeah cables so we did have a small restock hit our us distribution hub today for true spec cables
41:33 Okay, yeah, many of the sizes are already out of stock again
41:39 The only way that you're gonna have a shot of getting these guys is to make sure
41:45 That you get the notify me because when they hit
41:50 they're gone so There's nothing I can do about that. It's in priority sequence. You guys got a you got to get in there
41:59 So yeah, we had an order hit today and then you can actually you can actually see in the dashboard where it hits
42:07 Here check this out. This is hilarious Uh
42:13 Gee Luke Can you tell me where the cable restock was?
42:19 Yeah, I mean, maybe we're there. Maybe we're the snake ate the deer. Yeah
42:24 Yeah, so yeah
42:28 So make sure you do that All right, two comms. Oh, right. So if you're placing an order now
42:34 It's a perfect time because we have what we call check out messages
42:39 We when we stream, we don't want you guys to just throw money at us for nothing. We want to work for it
42:45 That's right me Luke and Dan. We all want to work for it. So
42:51 Instead of having people just send like twitch bits or super chats or whatever
42:55 We created what are called check out messages or comms
42:58 All you got to do to send one is head on over to lttstore.com add something like our new flex pants to your cart and
43:05 Go to the checkout There it is you can choose to have it displayed as a checkout message
43:11 You can make your name anonymous or you can show your name You can send a little message and then you can choose your color and whether or not you want to opt into email
43:19 Communication about your message. This will help us follow things up with you if you want
43:22 All right, then you go ahead and place your order and it will go to producer Dan
43:26 I already waved. I don't know what to do now You'll have to come up with something with the other hand. Nice
43:33 It looks weird. I'm not used to doing that. It hurts Anyway, it'll go to producer Dan who will reply to your checkout message or will pop it up down here or up there
43:42 Or who will curate it for me and Luke and I'm often Dan to respond to Dan
43:48 Do you want to do a couple for us? Yeah, sure. Hey, Daniel. I'm currently visiting Vancouver with my wife and kids
43:53 I had no idea. It was so beautiful. Capilino Park is awesome
43:58 Yeah, do any of you guys go hiking or anything like that? Not as much as I should
44:05 Literally we were like flying over
44:10 the the like outer Vancouver region and
44:14 I was like Luke did you have any idea that there were this many hiking trails in this area a lot
44:21 But it looked like a wherever we particularly were at the time I think it was over like Chilliwack or whatever. That's very likely. Yeah, it looks like a video game map
44:29 It was like there was just so many trails
44:33 And they weren't they didn't seem to be like dried riverbeds like they seemed to be
44:38 Hiking trails. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the entire area was just littered with them and I was like
44:44 How have I never been on any of these some of them are pretty great. Absolutely ridiculous. Sheen is pretty legendary
44:51 Um, so yeah, we should have you ever done the grind. No, I've always gone the other way
44:58 Gone the other way. Yeah What's the other way? Isn't the grind north van? Yeah. Yeah, I've always gone like oh, oh, I thought you might you've always like gone down it
45:08 I take that. Yeah, I take that going to look up
45:12 You're literally not even allowed like it's that'd be that'd also be the one way that would be really bad for my knees
45:18 Yeah Okay, well if you ever want to do the grind I'll do the grind it's called the gross grind
45:24 It's on gross mountain. You can like hike up the mountain. It's yeah, it's pretty savage
45:29 Yeah, wait till your knees. It's more of like a workout. Yeah, what you might expect from a traditional hike. This is fair
45:36 It's just like an incredible amount of stairs Which is awesome. There's people that do it like literally every day
45:42 Like it's it's great. It's just it's a quite a bit of a different experience from what I've heard
45:47 my brother Shot up there recently I
45:52 Wanda DLL first off San update when I'm a storage and backup engineer and that is my daily bread and butter
46:00 Second did you consider any centralized backup solution? Also? Why no why so few tall sure now?
46:07 I can see why you curated this one Dan It's a really good question. We are Linus. We are expanding slowly our selection of tall
46:16 merchandise We just we have to be we have to go slow and steady sure
46:22 This may be a surprise to you and all of you, but physical goods are an extremely
46:28 cash-flow sensitive business They every new product requires a brand new upfront investment that may or may not pay off
46:38 And we just have to be careful. We have to go slow. We have to be careful. We don't we're not taking private equity
46:44 We don't have outside investors. So every time we launch a new product. That's the product team
46:53 Working with me and working with our other leadership and going okay. Here's all the chips. These are our chips here
46:59 We are betting them Let's hope it pays off
47:03 It doesn't always we've got to be careful. It's it really is that simple and also complicated
47:08 I think I think the new the new war is gonna have to be over pants
47:14 Tall pants. I know when when we're not even necessarily tall pants just
47:19 When you guys launch the flex pants, I was really surprised the inseam length was 29 and then on on on an internet forum
47:27 Somebody posted like wow LTT Store really makes me feel really tall
47:32 And it was in relation to those pants cuz they're like wait inseam 29 is is all the yeah
47:40 Yeah Pants are tough man. There's yeah, you have to have all the waist sizes
47:47 Ideally you would have all the inseam sizes. We've done as much as two inseam sizes for a pair of pants
47:53 I believe the cargo pants we have two inseams for yeah, and it literally double like you got it
48:00 You got to think about it in terms of skew count you literally double your skew count
48:04 And if we still had everything consolidated at a single distribution center, that would be a little bit easier
48:10 But every additional layer of complexity you add it's a multiplier. Yeah, it's not additive. It's
48:18 multiplicative so was that like I'm just genuinely curious you've sold pants before so was that like did we have was most of our orders 29 or like
48:27 How did we land on 29? We landed on that as sort of a like a best middle ground for most people really. Yeah
48:40 Okay, yep, and What we would have probably done if we had another skew is we would have gone longer. Yeah
48:49 But that was one of those ones where the tech pants are 30 and 32
48:54 Hey, people also got a kick out of you guys calling tall 32
49:02 There's degrees of tall I'm a 32
49:07 So yeah, yeah, it's tall dance pretty tall. What do we call it? Stumpy legs Jonathan and Conrad and Lucas and those guys
49:14 I mean Lucas towers. Yeah, like
49:19 Okay, San update I am still not convinced that San is the right solution for us. I've
49:28 Every time I've asked someone who's very pro storage area network
49:32 Why we should have one? They have not given me a satisfactory answer
49:39 Naz seems like the way to go for us. I we don't have the same kind of like
49:46 Resiliency and like like cross org access complications that
49:52 That you might have if you're like I I don't know flipping like multinational or if you're or if you're like, you know
50:00 You're running a data center that has you know CPU compute over here and GPU compute over here
50:04 So you need to have like a storage network that they all access like we don't have any of those use cases
50:09 We just have individual users
50:12 accessing file level resources
50:15 That are centrally stored. Can someone explain to me why we need San?
50:24 Like Floatplane has San. Yeah Floatplane does but
50:28 Do we have no safe right? Yeah. Do we have no safe locally? I don't think so. I don't think there was a reason to
50:36 It was a pitch at one point. Yeah, and then we didn't go there
50:40 It's all of redundancy. Yeah, but we don't need that much redundancy
50:46 We have the one share that is like the current projects
50:51 actually redundant and replicated places share and then everything else we made a conscious decision and it's been it, you know, it
51:02 It's it's funny for me seeing people sort of go. Oh, remember that time they lost date. Yes. Yes. Yes
51:08 We we've Other than okay when we lost Wanik that was bad
51:13 But the time that our vault had some data loss We had made a conscious decision that this was non essential
51:19 Archived data and that if we lost it we had decided that it was not worth the additional expense of replicating that storage
51:27 And that's especially true today man storage has gotten so expensive
51:32 And so we've made the decision That we only really need the projects we're working on and every other like random snippet of footage if we lost it
51:40 We lost it. It doesn't really matter and so
51:43 Going for something more complicated More expensive that requires more administration
51:51 I just I don't
51:55 Um, I don't see the point
51:59 Or are you talking are you literally talking to aj and chat right now and jonathan they're both in here
52:03 We do have seph on prem It's just in the lab and it's just an mvp right now
52:07 Sure, and there's only a few things kind of running into it But the thing is when you take aj and jonathan
52:13 And you throw them in the pool of it people that do stuff for LMG
52:18 They come from seph and kubernetes land. Yep. So like it
52:24 Why not it becomes I think a lot more reasonable
52:28 It's it's a right tool for the right job for the right person type of situation
52:32 We have aj and jonathan. We might as well do this thing. It doesn't really mean that it's a recommendation for everybody
52:40 um Like tcl 987 says I would think you'd want san for running vm's so that a storage node going down doesn't take down the vm's too
52:51 In terms of like like critical on the media group side
52:56 And the creator warehouse side which make up the majority of our revenue
53:03 I can think of like a couple of vm's we run
53:08 Like sure on the Floatplane side Yeah, yeah, sure you're a hundred percent right like you want that redundancy built into that storage network that everything else is using but yeah
53:18 for video editing
53:22 We don't we don't have nodes of storage
53:26 We just have a storage server that every periodically
53:30 Backs up to another one
53:34 So if Floatplane was on prem you need it Floatplane has it anyways. Yeah, I just I just said that
53:39 Yeah, yeah um, oh faint lock it asks can you explain what san is
53:46 so Basically the idea is that instead of having your storage
53:52 In each machine right like this and this and then like allocating
53:57 You know like instead of putting like a drive into your computer and going okay here virtual machine
54:03 This is like your drive san is an entire
54:08 An entire separate network of machines whose entire job is to provide storage
54:15 For all the other machines on the network big pools. Yeah, so whether whether their job is to
54:21 run vm's or whether their job is to
54:25 Serve media or whether their job is for the editors to access it
54:29 All of these compute resources will just instead of having local storage
54:35 Over the network. They will access this this storage network
54:39 Which is entirely separate boxes that maybe don't need a ton of compute
54:43 But do need like a but ton of storage and then this this storage network is going to be built with redundancies and and
54:51 safeties that make it so that if one of these machines goes down
54:56 All the other machines that are doing all of your web serving and all of your
55:00 Your compute or all of your research or whatever it is They're doing are still able to access their storage as if nothing happened
55:07 So it's a way of of distributing your storage to make it so that a failure will
55:14 Not impact your operation at all rather than taking down one of your nodes
55:19 But we have so few nodes outside of the Floatplane side
55:25 And so little critical critical infrastructure that I just I just not convinced that it is relevant for us
55:32 um Yeah, torpedo bench describes it as kind of like raid but at a much bigger scale and and that's kind of a way of
55:40 Thinking about it instead of your one machine having multiple drives one of which could fail
55:46 all of your machines Have like a bunch of machines that have a bunch of drives in them and an entire machine could fail
55:53 And then they'd be able to still access it It's that's it's kind of a it's kind of a neat way of thinking about it
55:59 And then nas is more like
56:02 Like it's like a storage area network that only that's not really a network
56:06 It's just it's just a a standalone resource that all of those things can access
56:11 Over the network that might have some redundancy in the form of in the form of raid for instance
56:16 But it doesn't have like multi machine level redundancy. That's about the kind of simplest way that I can
56:24 Summarize it
56:29 Okay, yeah time to do more topics
56:34 Uh, no Legendary z-snash nintendo emulator
56:40 Has been rewritten from scratch with GPU acceleration the original developers of z-snash or zsnes or zsnes
56:49 Whatever you want to call it zsnite and demo
56:53 Are back together for the first time in nearly two decades with super
56:58 zsnes a complete ground-up rewrite of the legendary snes emulator that dates back to the dos era
57:06 And the first nintendo super nintendo emulator that I ever used I have personally played through
57:13 Final fantasy six on this emulator chrono trigger on this emulator like man
57:19 I have very fond memories of using this
57:22 oftentimes uncooperative but Quite quite treasured piece of software. It was what yeah, it was what everybody used for a long time
57:30 The last major release was almost 20 years ago though
57:35 So big change here is a GPU powered ppu core that enables high res mode seven
57:41 widescreen support in support of games
57:44 Overclocking for games that were notorious for slowdown
57:48 uncompressed audio and per game visual enhancements that the devs are calling
57:52 Super enhancement engine. It also keeps the classic falling snow ui
57:59 It's available now on Windows mac Linux and Android with iOS coming soon
58:03 And the devs made a point of listing no vibe coding as an official feature
58:08 Everything was handwritten the classic way
58:12 Now with that said I have heard that it's a little buggy
58:17 It is an early build special chips like chips like the super effects are not supported yet
58:22 But in a world where vibe coding is everywhere
58:25 Is no vibe coding a selling point for this for you? Would you want to try it? I want to try it. I'm spoiler. I want to try it
58:31 Uh I don't know if like
58:37 No vibe coding is particularly a selling point, but I'm gonna try anyways. I want to I want to I want to hear you talk about that
58:46 If stuff is Properly like I I know people that use vibe coding stuff
58:53 In a way that I would consider properly and I know people that use vibe coding in a way that I would
58:59 Hyper aggressively not consider properly
59:02 um, if these two guys
59:06 Said that they Used ai-assisted tools
59:09 I don't think I'd be too concerned about it interesting so
59:13 to you it's more about Having who's wielding the tool having the skills and having the street cred
59:21 to take shortcuts and
59:24 no To like review it and make sure that bad stuff doesn't get through still
59:29 um Because it also is what also depends like did they say no, okay, so no vibe coding specifically
59:36 so okay, maybe yeah, maybe that is particularly a good thing but like
59:40 ai-assisted so here's the quote the quote no vibe coding classic development style
59:46 But that's pretty ambiguous. Yeah, what's classic well to them 20 years ago might be just no assistance
59:53 I don't think it's that they haven't been doing work. They just haven't been working on z-ness. No. Yeah, that's fair
59:57 um
60:03 Yeah, peter said this and I I mean I've said this on wancho like a billion times and I just still agree with it
60:08 The buck stops with the one who commits the code
60:11 100 it goes back to that ibm thing that I've also shown on wancho before
60:15 um Quote a computer cannot be held responsible
60:22 Um, let's find the slide here
60:28 A computer cannot be held accountable Therefore a computer must never make a management decision and a management decision is to commit code. So like uh
60:37 From the vibe that I get from this team these two people
60:41 um, yeah, I mean I wouldn't particularly be too
60:46 concerned about it But there there will be people that will vibe code something
60:51 And they'll tell me that excitedly and I know who it is and I know how much work and development they've done and I'll be like
60:57 Oh boy I'm excited to see how many different ways this breaks. Um
61:03 I wonder how many security keys are like hard coded and publicly readable
61:09 Like things like that. I have to call me out like that
61:12 No, no, that never happened. Oh, no, no Um security key for your google sheet
61:17 Yeah Speaking of the Linus vibe coding challenge the project is officially dead. Unfortunately. Yeah in the form of a video
61:26 But I'm still trying to uh, I'm still trying to turn it into at least if it can be
61:32 If it can be cobbled together relatively easily a Floatplane video or something
61:37 So the problem is not that I was not able to vibe code a solution
61:42 I was and it's actually been In production since I vibe coded it, which is like six months ago now or something
61:50 Which is the problem By the time we would be releasing this video
61:55 Everything that I did is so far removed from the current state of AI and vibe coding
62:03 That it just doesn't make any sense to talk about it the entire thing
62:07 Like yeah, which I could probably do in fact
62:11 I could probably do way faster with better tools and now that I've done it
62:14 But the entire premise of the video for me was as someone who's never done this
62:20 What does that look like and We would no longer be answering that question
62:25 The other thing that it wasn't killed because of is our real developer our real developer was able to create a solution
62:33 But because of scheduling and stuff and people being busy, I still haven't seen it
62:42 So what I was hoping that we could still do is
62:47 have um Like have me sit down and like have it shown to me and then
62:56 Like yeah, Dan could just kind of walk me through it Yeah, and then we just do that on camera sure and then we can do that as and then I could do like a short little summary
63:05 He already walked me through it on camera. Okay, perfect
63:08 And then we and then we can just throw that up on flow plane or something like that. Yeah. Um, I know another
63:13 Sorry, are you done? No, I just and then I probably I probably need a little bit more of his time though
63:20 Because I need it to work for mixed doubles and singles as well Also, ultimately, I mean you you you pay his jack. So well, I know but
63:28 But then why did we have to do this whole vibe coding? So the vibe coding challenge started because I needed some development resources for something that didn't really matter
63:35 Um, but then then it mattered because it was a video, but then now it's not a video
63:39 I feel like it would have been better for us to just say hey, can I have some of Dan Siegel's time?
63:44 It's it's easier now and more appropriate now. I think so if you want so this time it makes sense
63:49 Uh, I wanted to say one more thing on the super zed schnitz thing. Um
63:54 Um I think there's also a like
63:59 Can I classify this as a cry wolf problem? I don't know. I watched a short clip last night before completely tearing down my entire computer setup
64:06 um of Shroud going back to counter strike
64:11 Because I was interested because what I've heard is that counter strike is covered in cheaters
64:16 And the title didn't say anything about cheaters. It just said shroud goes back to counter strike in the first time years or whatever
64:21 So I watched it in the first two games. He was in there was two blatant cheaters
64:25 Um, and it's it's it's this thing where like modern, especially FPS games, but modern
64:31 every game Uh, basically don't kid yourself if people like to cheat and like rocket league and mmo's and everything you can imagine
64:39 Um with with cheaters freaking everywhere
64:42 Something that has ruined
64:46 Something that has ruined It's a weird sentence whatever um is
64:53 defeat Because it it often feels like there's a built-in excuse for everything. Yes
65:01 So if you don't think that people are cheating or if it's they're probably not then it's like, oh, man
65:07 That guy's really good. I want to watch this replay and try to learn from them, right?
65:11 But if it's like, I don't know there's usually at least one cheater per lobby
65:15 Then it's like that guy's just cheating screw that guy and it like it it loses a lot of the like
65:22 The interesting nature of losing if that makes yeah, how do you how do you how do you get motivation from loss?
65:28 if The how do you get like the competition was never fair. How do you get like a rival?
65:34 Yeah, like you know back back when there was dedicated servers and you jump on a server and there was always that
65:38 Freaking guy who just yeah, who'd get you like every time Yeah, and then and then you you train and you get better and you beat that guy and then it feels good
65:46 Like that that type of stuff is just kind of gone from cheating
65:49 And I think something that they're dodging here to bring it back to super SNES super zed SNES
65:54 um Is there saying no vibe coding? So if it comes out and it has a bug
66:01 You don't get to go. Ah, it's probably just
66:04 Modern ai junk spaghetti code, right? They're saying no
66:08 No, if there's a bug it's because we did that part. I think we haven't fixed that yet that part
66:12 I think is kind of cool. I think that's super cool. Yeah
66:16 Yeah, yeah, want to pick a topic sure
66:20 Uh, what do we got here? Sony finally responds to playstation drm panic says only a one-time license check is needed
66:27 No 30 day requirement This was confusing if you weren't on top of this news because you're a pc person
66:32 There was a mysterious 30 day license timer showing up on playstation digital games purchased after march 2026's firmware update
66:40 Some people were freaking out. What is this 30 day thing modders on twitter spotted at first but things spiraled when playstation's own
66:47 ai support chatbots told users that they'd lose access every 30 days
66:53 Unless they were online, which is just not true to be clear. That's just what the chatbot said
66:58 With nobody sure what was real players started just testing stuff trying to see what was going on
67:03 YouTuber spawn wave pulled his ps5 cmos battery to simulate a timer expiring and watched his brand new digital purchases just
67:11 Refused to load with a license error Nice what actually happens if you miss the window
67:17 Is that the game stops working until you connect back to the internet? It doesn't delete it or get revoked permanently or anything like that once you're back online access is restored
67:25 And I believe once it does that actual check in you do get a permanent token
67:30 Sony says that if you launch the game once while connected a one-time check kicks in and the 30 day timer won't apply at all
67:36 Ever again, it's fine. Okay, but oh
67:40 Testing from reset era user and shrew found it's not quite that simple
67:45 There appears to be around a 15 day delay before the console actually converts your temporary license into a permanent one
67:53 A permanent offline one Until that conversion happens going offline for 30 days will lock you out that 15 day window lines up
68:02 Suspiciously close to playstation's 14 day refund period suggesting
68:07 That this might have been an anti fraud measure because apparently some people were buying games
68:14 Going offline having their offline version refunding the game
68:18 Right Yeah, uh, sony hasn't confirmed that part, but apparently that has been happening. So
68:26 Yeah, makes sense Sony has now officially responded to game spot saying a one-time check is required to confirm the game's license after which no further check
68:33 Is required the drm is real, but it's not the always online nightmare that people feared that said
68:40 Sony rolled this out silently and let the panic build for a freaking week before saying a single thing
68:46 Ah as a company That's kind of annoying that sometimes
68:53 Is Has things
68:57 Fester in the community I understand it both ways
69:03 I can understand why it seems crazy that sony didn't say anything for a week
69:09 And then I can equally understand All the like mechanisms and checks that external comms need to go through
69:18 Especially in the midst of a crisis and why it can take a while
69:23 I I mean, I'm gonna firmly stand on both sides
69:30 Going going wide yes
69:34 Strong firm stands
69:41 I don't love this. I understand they're whole trying to dodge the fraud thing
69:46 Honestly, it seems better than steam and we we hold steam up on this like this pillar
69:52 This this pedestal better. How's it better than steam steam checks like all the time
69:57 Yeah, but if you go offline, yeah, then it works, which is fine single player games
70:01 Yeah, not always they'll they'll make you check once in a while
70:05 Oh, yeah, I guess I've never been offline long enough to notice as someone who uh, actually it seems like it's
70:11 Been a little better lately, but there was definitely a period where they had cracked down on it quite a bit
70:16 And we would really run into it like on set. Can you just run the executables out of the folder?
70:20 No, no, because it'll still launch steam and it'll still do a DRM check
70:24 So so we'd run into this on set when we only had like one copy of a game
70:28 And we'd try to like pull the Ethernet cord and then launch it on the next computer And then pull the Ethernet cord and then launch it on the next one and pull the Ethernet cord
70:33 So obviously this is like not a You know classic use case
70:38 But I have definitely run up against this
70:42 Um, I I haven't ran into I haven't done this often
70:46 But I have not ran into it opening steam when you try to just run the executable for the game
70:50 I've had it just launched the game Okay, people in chat are saying they definitely do does it depend on the game because from my understanding
70:57 I definitely see it depending on it's not like gog where part of the deal is that there's no online DRM
71:03 Like with steam there there's online DRM. It's like a feature not a bug
71:07 I bet you it depends on you. It depends on whether the game uses steamworks, which is steams DRM
71:12 That also makes sense Uh cus cus captain says can you keep your steam deck in offline mode for just a limited amount of time?
71:17 Yeah, from my understanding it'll eventually need to phone home But I correct me if I'm wrong. Like I said, this is something that I ran into more before
71:25 And lately when we've been doing the Ethernet unplug thing now that I'm thinking about it. It's been a little more successful
71:32 um tcl 987 says steamworks and steam DRM are independent
71:38 Blah blah blah a lot of games use steam library stuff for networking voice chat, etc
71:42 Yeah, so it's probably gonna be dependent on the game somewhat
71:46 um Man one thing that I find really annoying as somebody who has to set up a system
71:52 For travel probably more often than most people because when I'm traveling is often when I'll have time to like oh, yeah
71:58 I'm gonna try out the steam controller So I need like to load a bunch of games onto a system before I go
72:04 I really really wish there was a way to with one button like do the pre-launch crap
72:11 For every game on my system because if I'm like
72:15 If I have no internet or I'm or I'm somewhere remote with very slow internet or whatever like okay like installing stuff
72:23 Not shaders you mean no like get the dot net whatever get the redistributable whatever install all dependencies
72:30 Do your DRM check? Yeah, like to Install all dependencies because like it's it's it's become it's become more and more of an annoyance over time
72:40 How many steam games have other launchers or have random dependencies?
72:45 Especially on Linux, uh, which I've been using more lately
72:50 Where they'll have to grab like proton crap ahead of time
72:53 So if I so if installing the game Installed the game
72:59 So that I just click go and it goes I would actually I would love that
73:02 So if valve is taking suggestions right now, uh, that's something that I'd love to see steam
73:08 Level up on ever so slightly when I install a game do all of it
73:12 Assume that my intention when I install a game is to play the game
73:17 Um, not just not just enjoy it being in my ready to play filter
73:23 Um
73:27 Okay, uh Ignacy
73:30 Says as a game dev requiring steam is a toggle in the stk API
73:35 Yeah, okay game either confirm steam is open and connected on steamworks initialization or it doesn't so that explains why
73:41 So we've just tried to open different games. We both would have had completely different experiences because both are both are true
73:46 That makes sense. Um It's not like a thing I do all the time. So I wasn't super confident
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76:08 Linus we have a guest We have a guest
76:12 For the Floatplane announcements for the Floatplane. You just don't trust us to do it, right? Yeah
76:17 Okay, well come on on
76:21 Do the announcements first what what what's happening right now
76:25 You want us to do the read Dan point at him show how he's being weird
76:29 Wait, what wait? What? Yeah, he's like holding a monitor. Look at that guy. What's up with that? Look at that guy
76:34 I don't understand what's happening right now. What's he doing if you read the document? You'll know he's up to something
76:38 All right. I'm gonna read the document. I'm reading the document
76:41 You know what the l in Linus stands for?
76:47 Oh, there's a lot of Floatplane exclusives about me this week
76:51 In the first video sammy gave me such a wonderful welcome back gift to welcome me back to the office
76:59 He will be fired for this injunction. Okay, so first of all sammy. That's not really what injunction means. Is it not? No
77:05 Um, it's about vibe and second of all you're not fired allegedly
77:09 Um, okay Anyway, this is the video. Uh, people really loved this video on Floatplane
77:16 I came back to work and my entire office had been gift wrapped
77:20 Um To this day, this is still how I feel about it
77:28 Anywho Um, and if pc building is more your style
77:34 I went head to head against elijah jordan and pankrats to see who can build a pc the fastest
77:40 At Linus media group. Wow. Did any of you wear a horse head? Dude, you filmed that
77:46 Ages ago. That video is just coming out. It should forever to we should do
77:50 Yeah, we should do a video on who's the fastest to edit a video at Linus media group because I think
77:55 I think you would not be in good shape for hours and eight povs. I had to edit
78:00 And then I got I because you understand what kind of videos you editing with the povs sick
78:06 You disgust me get your mind out of the gutter
78:09 Anyway, so that exclusive went up very recently. Oh, yeah, you guys are you guys are loving this one too
78:16 Okay, I'm not going to scroll down to the comments because
78:19 I feel like it's going to be somewhat debatable who won
78:22 So it's probably going to come down to commenters to decide who uh, who did it best
78:27 What else is going on on Floatplane? To wrap it up. We've uploaded the full interview with the creator of popos carl rachel
78:35 That's pretty cool tech quicky has been doing a ton of interviews with interesting people lately
78:38 So if you want to hear more from our special guests, we'll be uploading them to Floatplane very cool
78:42 Check out the c of exclusives at LMG.gg Slash fp when and don't forget guys that now is a better time than ever
78:51 To subscribe to Floatplane because at the supporter plus tier
78:55 You'll be getting a lower threshold for shipstorm free shipping now
78:59 Sammy has a special show and tell for us. What do you want sammy?
79:06 Oh, you're telling me I can't I can't get mad at you
79:12 Yeah, you can stand anywhere you want touch the foils So, you know, uh, we you don't have a mic here though. How did we?
79:19 No, this this was last minute. I forgot you're not here next to me. That's why okay
79:22 So, you know, you know the the the chair you bought with uh, david, um, oh you mean the the gun chair, uh, yeah, hold on
79:31 Yes, I'll bring I'll bring this up to people commission machine gun chair
79:35 Yes, that one. So I so here this was uh, this was yesterday's video
79:40 Uh, it has actually one of my favorite intros that we've done in quite a while
79:49 Okay, that that wasn't
79:52 What are you watching? What are you? There we go. No, no, we're good. We're good
79:58 But this is a gaming chair Um, so you can yeah, so we had
80:04 I love david crawling so But uh, anyway solid effort david. I'm not gonna take too much time today
80:10 Okay, so I promised I would daily drive that thing for 30 days. I did not approve that
80:16 The ergonomics are like not safe in my opinion. Is this a good monitor you think?
80:21 Yeah
80:25 Yes, you like that monitor. Um, so uh, the the lumbar I agree is bad. So I was trying to adjust it
80:32 Yeah, did you know that thing has no limiters?
80:39 Sammy You can see my hand here when I visually tried to physically try to stop it
80:44 It did not stop. There's no limiter on that chair. Yes, I know I didn't know that
80:50 So then it broke
80:54 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I felt so bad. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
81:01 Uh, yeah, but I record for full plane Uh, so you'll see my reaction on there where you see my my the horror in my face as I try to
81:08 Save this monitor. Oh, it's it's mangled. That's deep. I didn't actually realize like you know like the uh, the keyboard like
81:16 Play it went through it. Did it occur to you to stop it not with your hand like by pressing the button
81:21 So the button wasn't responsive. It wasn't oh the no the one remote doesn't like work
81:26 Yeah, I didn't you have to use the other Did you think to watch the video before I watched like I watched mostly through I'm like, I know enough and then
81:34 I didn't know I didn't know this you are the problem. I know I'm the problem
81:40 Okay, Linus would have just read the comments. I'm sorry Yeah, and through reading the comments, I would have known all the critical information that he didn't have
81:49 You I will die on this hill You are better off reading all the comments on a video than like watching the first 30 of it
81:56 I watched 50 I You know, I still maintain you're better off reading the comments on a video than watching only half of it
82:03 Well, I I am sorry But I had my reaction on on full plane next week
82:09 So we had some content. Okay. All right. You know that crazy expensive computer you built for him
82:13 I feel like you have to take the value of this monitor out of that computer somehow
82:17 They took away my GPU already. Oh really? I I stood up for you. I know you did. I appreciate it
82:22 You saw me stand up for you. I said they shouldn't take it away. You know why they took it your department
82:27 Oh, get on that beak with you. Get on. Let's get Linus get owned. Yeah, I don't think the two of us could take him
82:33 With this broken monitor I just might it's very durable. All right. Thank you sammy. It's very very sorry. I'm very sorry. I feel so bad
82:41 I'm sorry. Oh man. That's a really nice monitor. I know. I'm sorry. What's the what's the model? That's not the 4k one
82:47 Is it like
82:50 Sorry, it wasn't intentional. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I feel so bad. What monitor is it?
82:56 Uh, it's a it's an alien wear or something You know that you're the one holding it who can see the model number, right? That's
83:04 Yeah, it's always on there. It's gonna drop it see
83:08 I mean, that's fine at this point sammy's one of those guys that we make a video with him and then half the comments are like
83:13 Why does this guy even work there? You're getting glass on the ground. I promise he's he's really good at other things
83:18 Where's the model? He is. Oh alien wear 2725 q
83:24 October 2025 Here, I think that's the 1440. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry
83:31 But how much does it cost? It's it's 500 us, right?
83:34 Oh
83:39 That's the first one I saw this is a 240 hertz 4k. Yeah, this is like top of the line
83:46 Cudio led like one of the best monitors on the market. Wow
83:52 I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I honestly had no idea when you showed me. I thought it was just like some random junk monitor
83:59 I had no idea. I had no no we got like really nice monitors and we had that like sick alien wear
84:06 That like sick alien wear gaming pc on it. It was like
84:09 That was like peak gaming other than the lumbar support in the headrest
84:13 But are you glad i'm okay? I didn't get hurt
84:17 Actually, yes, that would have been worse. Did you get blood on the monitor?
84:20 You got my hand on it. See see this this this this hand sign shows war
84:25 I went or it shows that you were like banging in the depths of a steamship. Yeah, that's another possibility
84:32 That's not the kind of banging I meant but sure. Yeah, what do you mean?
84:36 He's never seen titanic. This is the problem with the kids today. I watched like no, I'm sorry. Anyways, I don't think too much time
84:42 All right, thanks sammy. Sorry. Hasn't seen tinnit. Sorry tinnit. Hasn't seen pov
84:48 Who is this guy? That's that's more expensive than any monitor I've ever owned
84:55 It's a random random fun fact that might be worth more than every multi monitor setup you've ever owned
85:03 1300 cat Probably and I run three pretty good monitors. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it is actually I think so that's uh
85:12 Wow, I like I I honestly had no idea he showed me in the lab
85:17 And I was like, okay I mean losing a monitor like sucks because we just always need monitors
85:21 But I'm sure it's just like some random generic monitor. I had no idea it was an alien wear
85:25 I had no idea it was high end at all
85:28 No, it's the highest of end It's it's like full downward dog high end
85:36 It's downward dog the one where your butt's in the air
85:39 I sounds like it. Yeah Yes
85:44 I was thinking child It doesn't get much more high end than that
85:51 Um, all right. Well subscribe to Floatplane so sammy can
85:58 Continue to do the things he does. No, he does really good stuff too. I promise
86:03 dude, that's All right, let's pick an let's move on let's pick another topic. Hey really cool LTT Labs article this week
86:10 Yeah, let's talk about that instead. We know it can be daunting to take your first steps into the world of Linux
86:16 We know this because we've been doing it recently But LTT Labs is here for you this article
86:23 From nick tested by shawn and steven is we tried popular Linux gaming distros
86:31 It's I have not read this one yet because it just went up, but I am very excited to this went up like two days ago
86:38 So we can maybe summarize for us. We had some well. Yeah, it's I mean we're kind of benchmarking
86:43 A bunch of gaming distros and there's there's tests if you go down
86:48 Um, there's there's standard, you know Labs charts with different games and how the different distros did and as you might expect
86:55 They're pretty similar Because it kind of goes that way every time
87:00 But we still looked at stuff cash. You did pretty good. Let's go cashy
87:04 Um, hey, look at that. Look at that. I managed to pick the one
87:09 The one that's bad Specifically for doom the dark ages the other games it was uh, if we if we do another Linux iSwitch challenge in the future
87:17 You should just have to use whatever
87:21 No, that's less interesting. No, I I like I
87:25 I think it's really important to have the conversation around what information a normie is likely to be exposed to
87:34 That to me is a whether I end up making the right choice for the wrong choice
87:39 is is actually a fundamentally important part of the Linux challenge and
87:47 I intentionally will not just ask people
87:51 I could have we even said this in the first episode. I could literally call Linus torvolds
87:55 Yeah, literally have his digits and ask him what distro to use but i'm not doing that
88:00 The one the only thing that really surprised me and this would have led you to a distro that I didn't even recommend
88:06 But yeah, I had a gut feeling that you were going to go with
88:10 What he said he used. Oh, yeah. Yeah in the video you guys did together. That's what I thought you were gonna do
88:15 No, no So my part of my method is that I am I'm looking at the entire switching experience
88:24 And part of the switching experience is going out there and fact finding. Yeah, and so, you know when the community kind of comes
88:32 and goes like He did the fact finding
88:36 Wrong because He found the wrong conclusion
88:41 What we need to do is we need to look at okay. What are all of these resources and why are they recommending this thing if quote-unquote?
88:47 Everyone knows that it's like not good And honestly, we've already seen some positive change
88:55 Every time yeah already. Yeah, and so it's one of those things where maybe I just accept my role
89:01 as the bearer of bad news And the reality check for people who are so knowledgeable that they don't realize what they don't
89:10 What they know, I guess is probably the best way that I could describe it It's like a curse of knowledge thing to a lot of Linux community members
89:17 They don't realize how easy it is to make the wrong choice
89:22 Because to them it's so obvious They have they know the right people to ask they know the right resources to look at
89:30 But to someone who to whom it's not obvious who's coming into it the for the first time
89:35 It's very easy to end up on a different path and and
89:39 Honestly, I do find this pretty interesting because I I didn't initially use chat
89:43 I've used chat gpd to try to figure out things that are going on with my system
89:47 But I didn't use it to pick my distro at all But you did and it spat out popos and then I did to see if mine would as well and I don't it was one of the options
89:56 I don't remember if it was number one, but it was one of the I don't think it was number one But it was there. I thought number one was cashew for you. I don't remember
90:03 I thought it was like open sushi or something
90:07 I'm sorry. I don't remember it was a while ago. Yeah, but this time I just did this sitting here right now not logged in so it's not tailored on me and best overall experience popos
90:17 So like we can say we can say whatever we want, but a ton of people
90:23 We'll use this. Yes. Yeah, and people can be like upset about that
90:28 Right. You can be upset about that. You can think they shouldn't use it
90:32 But and I said this I said this in episode one
90:36 If I am trying to be representative of joe gamer
90:40 Who's doing my own research today? And I didn't ask a chat bot. I'd be doing a complete disservice
90:47 That would be a completely unrealistic
90:51 Assumption that they would not use a chat bot because so many people are using them
90:56 And we know this this is just a fact that we don't have to like
91:00 But we do have to deal with we've got to deal with the fact that when luke typed in what Linux distro
91:06 Should I use and then closed his tab right as I was about to switch back to his screen?
91:12 It's out popo has
91:15 Yeah, and you know what's funny is um, I know borrow and a couple of things
91:18 But I said best overall was popo. I never actually switched off a popo s on my desktop
91:22 I don't know if I ever actually acknowledged that on wancho. I don't I don't feel like I realized that
91:27 I I kept it because I I did the vast majority of my Linux sing on my other machines
91:33 Which were not running popo s. I was running steam os on
91:38 On the media pc and then I was running kubuntu on my laptop, which I actually ended up mostly really happy with
91:43 They're Worst in issues, you know, we'll talk about those
91:47 But uh, yeah, I didn't actually end up using my desktop that much and for the limited amount that I did use it popo
91:53 s not only was usable, but it actually got better
91:56 Over the entire course of the challenge
92:03 Someone in chat said I asked the llm search and ubuntu admit was number one. I was like, oh, that's an interesting idea
92:08 I should just ask search which I'd never do. Yeah, but I should just do that and
92:14 It's the exact same output um
92:19 No bar project. I am specifying. I'm switching the Linux from Windows
92:23 And that's where a lot so so a big part of why it recommended popo s for me was that I laid out what my requirements were
92:29 Yeah, I want and and a huge part of the of the residual
92:34 Sort of branding for popo s is that it's really good for people with NVIDIA GPU's
92:40 Who want a turnkey gaming experience and are coming from Windows? That's like that's the identity
92:47 Of popo s and also that it's not just for gaming
92:50 like that was That's that's the kind of like branding in a nutshell for popo s. I think I think
92:58 First of all, I think a lot of people have labeled me as like the Linux guy here, which I think is just not
93:03 It's not true, but you're definitely You definitely had more familiarity going into it than either. Oh, no
93:08 I'm just trying to qualify my next statement as like I probably don't know as much about this as some of you seem to think that I do
93:15 um But in my experience the whole
93:19 better NVIDIA driver native stuff is like
93:25 Yeah, no, I know that hasn't been a thing for me in like a long time
93:29 I think that's uh, I think that's an old and it's it's everywhere
93:33 So like it was talked about a lot in the past, but I think we're kind of past that problem
93:38 um At least in in like everything I've used like mint is much more casual
93:45 And has no problem with NVIDIA drivers mint for me can switch between Intel and and NVIDIA
93:51 Graphics for like performance or battery saving setups and stuff and just has no problem with it like I don't think that's a
93:58 modern problem Just does a note for anyone watching. I wouldn't get too scared about the NVIDIA on the next thing
94:04 It's it's really not as big of a deal as it was before tim 000x3 says, okay
94:09 Here's my counterpoint Linus. Joe gamer is actually going to also watch LTT
94:13 So they're going to say Linus has a lot of problems with popo s and probably not use popo s now
94:18 Are you taking that into account? Well, I can't at the time
94:21 There's a bit of a like temporal issue with your argument because at the time that I selected popo s
94:26 I have not yet made a video finding out that popo s was problematic for me now
94:31 so it's Yeah, and also the chat gpt user base versus Linus tech tips viewers
94:38 So the chat gpt user base is this big And the Linus tech tips user base our viewer base is this big. Yeah, like we
94:46 I've talked about this a fair bit, but I think our regular viewers
94:51 Especially our WAN Show viewers
94:54 Overestimate the importance of us and I'm flattered. You know, I I appreciate that
95:02 If if people that I game with figure out what I do the most common question I get is what pre-build should I buy?
95:08 Because I'm not into this stuff Yeah
95:13 Yep, it was astonishing to me. I think much less so you but it was astonishing to me to figure out how
95:20 Massive the pre-built market was I thought some of these companies were just kind of small
95:24 I've existed forever some people will build computers or whatever
95:28 No, they're big. They're very big. Yeah, they're huge. I didn't realize how much like sway
95:35 System integrators had as well because they're so massive. Yep
95:39 I had really no clue and because of how important they are not even necessarily computers because I'm dumb even from a sales
95:47 Perspective but from a marketing perspective. Yeah, like when people are shopping for us for a gaming system
95:55 Having your brand In everyone's configurator is in some ways like way more powerful than any reviewer that you could ever see
96:04 Product to because that's where people with a very high purchase intent
96:09 Are going to be seeing your brand and are going to be exposed to your product
96:12 And it's it's funny because I um, I in a lot of for a lot of my career
96:18 I sort of took for granted my experience as a product manager and working in sales and marketing
96:24 As just like well. Yeah, but like everyone knows that the enthusiast side of things is just this like, you know, tiny little cute
96:31 Niche and and and understands that there's actually a much larger machine here. Yeah, that doesn't really care about us
96:38 yeah, but then The longer I've gone the more I've been like no actually that perspective was really important
96:46 in trying to in trying to frame products in a way that
96:50 Because I'm one of you because I am an enthusiast. I I can see the things that are important to us
96:57 but also share the perspective that
97:03 Guides product decisions that we don't like. Yeah, and that is that
97:09 99 out of the 100 people that are purchasing it are not us
97:14 And don't care like okay here. Here's something that I know is a bugbear for you
97:21 boring modern graphics card packaging. Yeah
97:25 But look at it from NVIDIA's perspective. Okay GPU box. Here we go. Dude. They were so cool. Oh my god packaging
97:34 It's so boring. Okay, that boring box. So this is what they used to look like
97:40 That's so sick. This is what they used to look like so much better, dude. Here's what they look like
97:46 Here's what they look like now So NVIDIA mandates that you have to have you know this and on the side
97:54 Let me see if I can find a shot from the side Uh, you've got to have so you've got to have certain
97:59 Yeah, I know I know relax over clocks. Okay, here you go
98:04 So you've got to have this on the side so that no matter how it's faced on the shelf
98:08 Everyone can see the g-force and the model number and you know whatever and you know what in fairness to NVIDIA
98:15 I'm not that against that I think that's okay. This was pretty hard to read. Yes, you know about this, right?
98:21 This is like, uh, it's like a table book. Did you did you order it? No
98:26 Um, oh remember this thing. Yeah, I know I didn't I should yeah, did that ever
98:33 Uh, noteworthy find from the did that ever like come to life?
98:37 publisher's website for stock alerts overclocked an archive of graphics card box art can be
98:45 Let's go All right. Uh, this is your birthday present sick. Thank you. All right
98:52 um Yeah, I I think having some amount of standard labeling so that you can tell what
98:58 Thing you're buying is fine. But then beyond that I would like it if it was if NVIDIA would screw off
99:06 Um, and just let people do fun stuff outside of like, you know, have your we we talked about it with thumbnails where there's like the
99:13 The safety zones or whatever. Mm-hmm where like, okay This isn't this isn't going to conflict with youtube putting a timestamp or or a hover over or something like that
99:22 Have those areas just be where NVIDIA has their mandatory branding cool. No problem. And then beyond that have some fun with it
99:30 It's a graphics card. It's supposed to do fun things
99:34 Somehow we ended up here. We were talking about this article on the Labs website. Check it out at lttlabs.com
99:41 Um, it's just up here in the in the feed right here before you ask. Yes
99:45 We do have an rss feed So that you can make sure that you see all these all these really all these really cool
99:51 Articles that are actually coming out on a very regular basis these days. Yeah, go check it out. Yeah
99:58 All right, let's pick another topic Oh, this is cool. Uh here do you want to bring up the visuals for?
100:05 Wave overhangs is a new open source slicer forked from orca slicer that can print
100:13 And this is wild Fully horizontal 90 degree overhangs without support material
100:22 That's what I looked like that's confusing
100:26 I don't I'm not a big 3d printer omega brain, but this that's confusing. Okay. You've got the visuals up now
100:32 I think so. Okay. So here. Let's throw out. Okay. This is cool. Yeah. Can you like zoom zoom zoom? Yeah, there we go
100:38 So instead of laying plastic into thin air and then just hoping for the best
100:44 Okay, it generates concentric rings of material
100:47 That each grab onto the cooled ring that was laid down before them in the same layer
100:53 Propagating outward from the supporting from the supported edge like a wave
100:57 So we're looking at the one on the right over there
101:01 So you can see that it it kind of it kind of goes
101:06 A little farther a little farther each time
101:11 In order to in order for that overhang to have something to grab on to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
101:16 This concept isn't brand new arc overhangs first appeared back in 2022 as a proof of concept that using overlapping circular
101:24 toolpaths could achieve the same basic idea The difference is arc overhangs were never integrated into a real slicer and required manually extracting
101:33 Coordinates running a separate script and then pasting the gcode back into your sliced model
101:37 Wave paths do look a lot more simple Not exactly that kind of thing that most people are going to want to bother with
101:43 Wave overhangs then is the first time the technique has been built directly into a usable slicer with a gooey toggle
101:48 With tunable settings and two different algorithms to choose from it is still very experimental
101:53 There are around 20 tunable parameters and no presets yet and warping on larger spans is a no limitation
102:00 But the developers are asking users to be part of its development and upload test prints to a community gallery at wave overhangs.com
102:08 To help figure out what settings work best across different printers and materials
102:15 So be be part of the change that you want to see in the world. Let's have a look at some stuff from the gallery like
102:22 Oh Oh, how cool is that?
102:26 Wow, right That's pretty sweet
102:32 Oh, I like it Less supports should be less wasted plastic more warping observed. It's always hold on a second. No, wait a second. Oh wait
102:42 What am I looking at here? This looks like a uh
102:47 No, forget this one Hold on. Hold on. Let's find what yeah, here we go. Here we go. Here we go
102:53 Okay, that isn't that isn't that's an overhang and a half
102:58 That's wild Being able to print that like yeah, not perfect, but like
103:05 That's crazy. There's the print bed right there
103:15 Man Dang 3d printing you crazy one. Look at this
103:23 Best print so far on this very challenging test print pattern zigzag
103:29 Wow, there's definitely some warping. Oh, yeah
103:34 But like this is how this is how these things get to the point where it's like click and forget
103:40 Am I wrong that this would even just be a good idea to do even if you did have some supports to help stop the warping?
103:46 Because wouldn't it be stronger once you remove the supports as well?
103:49 Or am I just totally tripping possibly because what I'm seeing in the in the demo imagery
103:55 The the thing that was most interesting to me. I'm going to jump over to mine. Look at that
103:58 Oh, wait, we can look at that. Look at that. Look. Look at this. Look, man. Look at this. It is cool. No supports. Luke
104:04 That's pretty wild. That's crazy. This is the base guys for context. This is what was stuck to the base of the print bed
104:10 Yeah, so this gives us a look at what it looks like from the bottom like oh
104:16 Man, that's what I'm seeing here is like in these example images the detached lines here
104:21 Just removing those and making it so that your
104:24 your like Your your path is all the way from back here. So you have all the strength from back here on these like
104:32 These parts here which seem like they might be more breakable. I don't know. I'm not 3d printer brain guy
104:37 But it seems like potentially using wave paths in combination with supports if you can't afford to have
104:44 any deformation Could be a cool option for strength. I don't know
104:50 James unknown says I've been 3d printing for years now my own business now and this is huge
104:55 Not just saving material, but also what Luke is saying. I can see that being way stronger. Cool. Okay
105:01 Sweet very I mean that that seems awesome to me because you might even end up with a combination of both
105:06 You might not need as much support If it's not going to be as much of a as big of a problem
105:12 So you can save some material and it can be stronger like what a win
105:15 All right. I got a funny one Qualcomm's stock surges
105:20 In response to a report that it could make chips for an open ai smartphone
105:26 And then it lost much of those gains on subsequent trading days
105:31 According to a report from well-known tech analyst, uh, Ming-Chi Kuo
105:35 Open ai is working on its own smartphone in an effort to compete with the iphone with mass production targeted for 2028
105:42 Kuo. Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. This is sec. This is sec. Hold on. Hold on. Relax. Relax
105:46 Kuo says that open ai has partnered with chip makers qualcomm and media tech to develop the smartphone's processors with luxe share handling system
105:53 Codesign and manufacturing the phone will reportedly have no apps and be a completely agentic workflow. Whatever that means
106:00 This is another in a handful of hardware products. Hold on. Hold on. Contain yourself
106:05 This is another in a handful of hardware products that open ai has announced but not yet released
106:10 Including earbuds and that home pod style smart speaker that johnny i've is reportedly working on
106:16 Okay, go
106:24 First of all just flat line used no brain power
106:28 Had a thought Sounds terrible. I would never want to buy this
106:34 Oh my god Okay, diving a little bit more into things. It uses no apps. Dang that sucks a lot
106:43 So much of what i'm gonna need to do is using apps on my phone
106:49 Uh, hopefully i'm not just like, you know that old guy that gets clipped in the future when people are like, well, obviously
106:55 We didn't need whatever but at least right now. This seems genuinely bad
106:59 Um, also, isn't it called apps when you add like functions to agentic?
107:06 systems Like when when what does that even mean when a jet this is to be short for application
107:13 This is kind of what i mean now it's developed. It's kind of its own meaning I don't know what to tell you when they added wolfram alpha as a thing to
107:20 Open ai's agentic mode. Yeah, was that was it not an app?
107:25 It could be called skills to skills and tools sure whatever
107:29 Um Sounds sounds good. Uh other than the product the product sounds terrible
107:35 Um Remember that time that facebook wanted to make a phone? Yeah, remember how nobody
107:43 Wants or needs a phone that is not
107:46 at least At least a walled garden ecosystem that is that is
107:53 Accepting of you know, pretty much everything else running on it as a platform
107:58 Can you think of? any reason
108:01 to want this Over a phone from someone with decades of experience building hardware like apple
108:09 The western world is still going to want iPhones and the rest of the world
108:14 Is still going to want Open systems that they can extend and modify and and keep going long term
108:21 And this is neither And I don't think it's going to breach the market basically anywhere. Maybe it'll be popular for sales in san francisco
108:31 Uh and that's probably about it So it's the it's the smartphone for tech bros and tech bros only
108:40 Whoa Okay, do you want to hear something kind of wild?
108:44 There's more viewers on there's more viewers on the WAN Show channel than there are on the Linus tech tips channel
108:49 I think it's going to be time to cut it off pretty soon guys if you're watching on Linus tech tips right now
108:53 You got to go switch over to the WAN Show channel. We got to figure out that collaborative thing
108:58 Yeah, I think that's probably the way to go like moving forward
109:01 Yeah, like a collab stream. Yeah, we stream on the WAN Show and then we just collab with LTT collab for a while
109:07 I don't think we should do it forever because I don't want to be sending
109:11 Notifications on both forever. I think we should move to wan shows sooner rather than I don't think it will if you're subscribed to both
109:17 I think youtube is smart About that. I also I also don't want to let people get complacent about it
109:24 They should subscribe to the WAN Show in order to continue to follow the WAN Show
109:29 So get get get on for streams get on over there. Really sammy?
109:35 um All right, moving on to our next topic
109:41 I'm gonna pick one Maryland video has become the first american state to ban surveillance pricing in grocery stores
109:51 Critics do say that the law has too many loopholes, but
109:54 Look, let's Let's start with let's start with the good news side of it
109:59 The law was signed by governor west moor on tuesday and bans grocers and third party delivery services from using personal data
110:07 To set higher prices if you're not familiar
110:11 Surveillance pricing is a practice that uses some
110:16 characteristic of yourself like your zip code for instance or your ethnicity or
110:22 um Just any personal personally identifiable personal information about you and uses it to adjust the pricing upward
110:34 Because of what you can presumably afford there's some camera thing and it's like all white people like broccoli
110:39 Let's increase the price of broccoli pretty much. It doesn't have to be a racial thing, but it could be let's face it
110:46 It could be whether we want it to go to a race place or not it often ends
110:51 They'll put it behind some machine learning thing and call it a black box and say they have no control over what kind of box
111:03 I think you're more intimately familiar than me
111:09 No
111:14 Listen I
111:21 Colorado California
111:26 Massachusetts illinois and new jersey are all considering similar bills
111:30 But while this is a win consumer advocates are saying that maryland's law is full of loopholes
111:35 The biggest one is that it bans raising prices based on personal data
111:39 But doesn't stop companies from raising prices for everyone then offering personalized discounts
111:45 That ultimately arrive at the exact same outcome There are also exemptions for loyalty programs and promotional offers
111:52 Which are some of the main vehicles that companies already use to do this
111:57 And there's no private right of action meaning that regular consumers can't actually sue if they get caught up in surveillance pricing
112:03 Only the state attorney general can enforce it which critics say guts any real deterrent so
112:09 It's a little bit of progress in that we're finally talking about the issue
112:12 We're acknowledging the issue But it's very clear that there is a lot more that needs to be done
112:19 And I mean personally I would just love to see this happen across the board
112:22 You know, why are airline why are airline operators allowed to do this?
112:27 Actually crazy. They're like the entire vacation industry seems to operate based on this
112:33 However, however, I I would caution that we don't want to go too far
112:40 Regional pricing on services like steam, for example, I
112:45 Fundamentally support so this shouldn't be able to be done within a country. Is that fair enough?
112:49 I think that's a fair line to draw. Let's use the those arbitrary lines on the map
112:54 And let's let's make those the boundaries. Would you go as far as like
113:01 A province Or a city would I allow
113:07 How Different pricing because I'm pretty sure somebody had Alberta plates on
113:13 Oh, right because it has to be dynamic. No, it has to be dynamic. Yeah. No, I don't I
113:18 Because my mind is like, I mean, there is different pricing for like say milk in Alberta versus here
113:23 Yeah, but it shouldn't be because of where you're from or because of who you are. It shouldn't be. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's f***ed up
113:29 Especially because it incentivizes these organizations to then collect the data on everybody. Yeah
113:35 And then whether or not they actually use it. I mean a lot of the tech could use it anyway
113:39 You can set your pricing there might be market factors It might be more expensive to get trucks to wherever you are. Maybe you're way north in Canada or something
113:45 It's just a fact Um, but you can't you can't change it based on who's in the store
113:52 Yeah, obviously that seems like it should just happen
113:57 Um fools and horses says Linus, do you collect any trends or data from LTT Store?
114:03 Where does the line get drawn? You know what? This was actually something that you don't use that to
114:10 Target pricing for specific users though. No, we don't but Colton that actually messaged us about
114:16 um Like what we do and don't collect on LTT Store and like where we think the right line would be
114:23 I don't know if we ever actually Talked about that on wandshow. I can't actually I can't find the email
114:29 From him right now, but do you remember the one that i'm talking about they're trying to figure out like what would be
114:34 what would be You know an LMG friendly
114:38 level of like cookies and data collection
114:42 To determine whether some of the marketing efforts that his team is doing are actually working because right now
114:48 We do some limited data collection, but there are pieces of it that would be very helpful to them that right now they don't
114:57 They don't have enough to get it to get a clear picture for instance like
115:01 um, one of the things they were looking at was like conversion of
115:05 um of people on Floatplane
115:09 For subscriptions and stuff like that Uh, what what is what's the right amount?
115:16 The Floatplane one was a pretty big line because we don't have a banner for stuff like that because we don't do like any of it
115:22 So we were like, uh, we'd have to do oh like a gdpr
115:26 Like i'm like a cookie banner and like all that kind of stuff
115:30 um So i we just didn't do it at zeem says i avoid ads at a very high cost. Yeah, we're not we're not talking about ads
115:39 Though we're talking about like forms of tracking. Yeah
115:42 Because like you it's it's there are also other ways to do it though and that that was the counter pitch from Floatplane
115:49 So how do we do it? You can have like
115:53 You can have it so that it's a link
115:57 And like the where did the url come from?
116:00 Yeah, so we can't we can't track it on like an individual user basis, but we can see like this many people clicked this link
116:07 and This many people that clicked on that link did follow through and purchase a description
116:12 Now someone could screw that up Because the for us because they could click on the link and then like navigate somewhere else manually
116:19 And that manual navigation might get rid of the the uh the url
116:24 Like there's there's yeah, there are other ways to do it. They're not perfect, but neither is
116:30 aggressive cookies that you're also feeding to
116:34 Facebook or whoever else because you're running it through their systems. It's another thing to keep in mind
116:38 Yeah
116:44 All right, well, let's leave it alone for now and then we'll go from there, I guess
116:52 I don't know man. I I understand why his team wants to do this stuff, but I also understand the hesitation
116:59 Yeah, but like I said, there are other options. It's it's not like we're we're saying
117:02 I mean we might we might have said no at the time because we're such a small team
117:06 We can't just do everything all the time, but um
117:10 There's ways that you can track how well that campaign is working without being able to tie it down to it specific user
117:16 Okay, like it is possible. You can you can have flags in the url
117:20 that follow the process and if if
117:24 One of those like url flagged people that goes through does a purchase. Yeah, it's just holding tallies
117:31 Okay, so you like the advertising platform side should know how many people you served that ad to
117:39 Our side should know how many people came to the site with that in the url
117:44 And then our side should know how many people checked out with that in the url
117:48 And then you have your three data points I'm like ideally that's enough and then we're not feeding it through
117:54 Metta or whoever else Amica asks are you just putting yourself at a commercial disadvantage by trying to be ethical about this? Yes
118:02 But like we often do
118:06 and That's something we've decided to do
118:10 And I think I think that should almost potentially uh reflect
118:18 I'm just gonna skip
118:21 All right in some other cool news you guys can come up with your own morality
118:26 The first tesla semi truck from their gigafactory nevada high volume production line has
118:32 officially rolled off the line the semi is
118:36 A little late. It was first unveiled in 2017 with an original promised production date of 2019
118:44 Okay, a little late But it's here. It is worth noting. This is not the first semi to be produced a handful were delivered to pepsico in late 2022
118:53 But those were essentially like hand built on a pilot line
118:57 This time we're talking mass produced units with an expected annual production capacity of 50
119:03 Thousand trucks although it is worth noting that that will have to ramp up over the next few years
119:08 Doesn't mean anything and it doesn't mean anything because tesla lies constantly
119:12 But but but this is as far as we can tell truthfully the mass production line
119:17 These trucks have a range of 325 miles or 500 miles depending on whether they are the standard or long range model
119:25 And that is apparently fully loaded though. It's not clear in our notes. What exactly
119:31 Fully loaded Means there's definitely degrees of loaded for semi trucks. They support teslas mega charger, which is 1.2
119:41 megawatt charger
119:45 Could they not have done 1.21?
119:48 They were so close 1.21 megawatts
119:53 Yeah, that would be pretty sick And does it round up that'll restore 60 percent of the trucks range in 30 minutes
120:00 Cost on the long range model and this is what makes this good news WAN Show cost on the long range model is expected to be
120:08 290 000 us dollars
120:11 That do we have a reference point for other semi trucks? Oh, they're really expensive
120:15 I know they're so expensive That was my grandpa's job and like the maintenance and the dealer network and just the like old boys club of everything the financing crazy loans
120:27 290 000 us dollars for something that
120:31 Is going to have sure all the disadvantages of an electric vehicle, right?
120:37 Like these batteries will eventually wear out and you have to charge and blah blah blah blah
120:42 But that will also have the advantages
120:45 Of an electric vehicle and that you're using simple electric motors
120:51 That's okay. Sorry not simple, but relatively low maintenance electric motors. Dude, this thing looks freaking
120:58 awesome I am uh, I am like kind of stoked on it to be clear. I don't think that the teslas semi is going to be taking over long haul trucking anytime
121:11 In the foreseeable future. There is a ton of trucking that isn't long haul trucking. Yes, and that's okay
121:17 And and what's kind of cool about this is for semis
121:21 I can actually see the range being less of an issue
121:25 Especially for companies that are somewhat integrated where they can build in charging infrastructure
121:30 At the various docks that they're going to be visiting because it said 60 in half an hour, right?
121:35 If you're doing an unload or load Well, that wouldn't get a lot of you wouldn't have a mega charger at like your warehouse
121:43 But if every time you docked You would be able because I mean you'd like your transformer for your for your warehouse building like simply will not have that level of
121:53 Unless you went out of your way like you're not going to have a mega charger. Sorry. Sorry specifically mega charger
121:58 Yeah, so I guess I won't do that rate, but still you could plug into something
122:01 Yes, but but the way that I see it is as long as this thing is charged in the morning
122:06 As you're going around to you know, you're bottling Let's use Pepsi as an example just because they were one of the first customers for the tesla semi
122:14 So you're going around to your various ports of call. You're going to like the bottling depot here
122:18 You're dropping off some you're making some drop offs at a distribution hub here You're going back to the bottling depot
122:22 If at every one of those are at or at some of those at the ones that you own
122:26 You're able to plug in while things are are loading and and being unloaded a little bit more
122:31 You can you can juice yourself up a little bit over the course of the day
122:35 And if you're mostly doing local distribution runs
122:38 This is just going to be so huge for everything from noise to urban smog to
122:45 Just convenience for operators like driving a big rig like like uh like man, do you know that some of them have like two stick shifts?
122:53 I didn't know what the two. Yeah, I didn't know you can like slip gears on purpose and there's all this like
122:58 Like driving a truck is non-simple
123:02 If it could be if it could be one One pedal driving semis like if we could lower the barrier to entry for for operating these vehicles
123:12 Lower the mental load of operating them so you can be more focused on the road right the barrier entry thinks spooks me because of the amount of
123:19 Opened tin cans we've had in in bc of people hitting bridges when I say okay when I say lower the barrier to entry
123:24 I don't mean that we need people who are less cognitively capable of operating them
123:29 What I mean is that fewer just fewer distractions. Sure. Um, I just I see this as an absolute
123:36 I see this as an absolute win. Yeah, it seems cool. I always have like a little bit of skepticism
123:41 um Because of their track record on being able to hit their targets and stuff like that
123:46 But sure these things just rolling off the line sounds great to me
123:51 Uh, tim asks, how about maintenance? I mean look a diesel engine is a super reliable
123:59 Engine, you know, like a like a Cummins diesel that you might find in a large truck
124:03 It's gonna be pretty flippin reliable like those Volvo trucks. They'll do a million miles, you know
124:10 And that's not even like that's not even like Whoa, you should get a free truck because it did a million miles, you know, like remember that first car
124:18 That that like traveling salesman or whatever who put a million miles on his car and the company gave him a new one
124:22 Like that's not that's not even like that remarkable but
124:26 Uh, actually, okay. Hayago ego says diesels used to be super reliable, but now they are not as good
124:32 interesting Okay, classic. Yeah, no many such cases. No comment on that. I I was not aware of that from my understanding
124:40 Big rigs do tend to be pretty reliable
124:43 um Edison Loaders hold on a second. Um, but yeah from a maintenance standpoint
124:50 I know that my experience with electric vehicles has been that it's relatively low and I would imagine that especially on braking
124:56 these would just be So much better breaking on one of these must be insane, right?
125:04 Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm missing something here. Feel free to tell me if I'm missing something
125:08 But regenerative braking would be amazing for trucks and they spend so much time idling and stuff. It's just relative
125:15 What if it takes so much energy to get them going that it's it's relative. I'm not sure
125:20 Um Okay, hold on Either way neat cool to be clear. Let's see it when it happens. Tesla's not the only player in the game
125:29 We actually I really I still need to go these guys shipping check out these guys. Uh, can you buy a semi truck from them?
125:35 Uh
125:39 Okay, so hybrid so Diesel and battery so hybrid trucks could be a better approach to a cool idea to long range trucking and Edison motors is a company that
125:51 They they they're doing like an investment drive right now Like I don't know what kind of shape they're in right now
125:58 So this is not like an endorsement of the company or anything like that
126:02 I I don't know enough to say one way or the other But I do I do love the idea of what they're doing
126:10 Um
126:16 VNG supernova says I thought semis used pneumatic braking so regen braking wouldn't be that useful
126:20 Does the tesla semi not use regen braking?
126:25 And they're braking
126:28 Uses powerful regenerative braking across all three electric motors is yeah
126:32 Um Yeah, no, no, no, yeah regular semis do use pneumatic a lot of them use air brakes
126:38 But no the tesla should be uh
126:42 Should be using regenerative braking. Yeah, yeah uses regenerative braking
126:45 So that's kind of like the whole point of the tesla semis is that it is doing things differently to bring advantages that traditional semis do not
126:54 Uh kitsune sensei says most of your wishes for trucks are already reality outside of north america. This is this is true
127:00 uh electric trucks in um
127:04 Like I I remember seeing like a crazy number apparently in the last year
127:08 There were more electric trucks produced in china than the entire total addressable market
127:14 Like the entire annual market for um
127:18 Fossil fuel and electric trucks in north america. Um, so yes electric trucks are definitely a thing
127:24 But guys it's good news wancho. Can we just let a win be a win?
127:29 Okay, there's more electric trucks on the road
127:35 All right Uh, what else we got you want to pick one? Sure. Let's jump through here
127:43 I think I know what you might pick. I'm gonna be ready for it. Is it just the next one?
127:49 Right to repair repeal repelled What a what a title colorados consumer rights continue kick rocks corpos colorados consumer rights right to repair digital
127:58 electronics equipment law took effect in january 2026 providing access to documentation and tools to repair or modify electronics
128:06 however A new bill was proposed that would create an exception for critical infrastructure a term that advocates
128:13 uh That advocates feel is too loosely defined
128:19 The bill was supported by lobbyists for sisco and ibm and passed unanimously through the colorados senate
128:26 Really? But was shot down in a seven to four vote by the colorado houses state civic military and veteran affairs committee
128:35 The core arguments from sisco representatives claims that there was potential cyber security risks
128:42 To what uh, what's the stop bad actors from using those tools to reverse engineer internet routers?
128:48 I mean lots. Okay carry on The cyber security experts pointed out it doesn't really work like that
128:55 The vast majority of hacks are carried out remotely and it is more likely the victims of hacks
129:00 Um that that need to make changes on the fly without acquiring permission from manufacturers
129:05 Yes Yeah
129:09 Cool. Oh man our discussion question here is
129:13 Is there is there? Oh, okay. No, I misread it. I thought it was wanting us to get into
129:18 Whether lobbying should be a thing or not. Oh, no, we're definitely not approaching that on the WAN Show today. No
129:25 I thought you were going to do this one Oh
129:28 Where is that one? Up a little higher. I see it. Yeah. Yeah
129:33 This week Noctua announced that they now offer public 3d CAD models for all their fans
129:38 You can find the files directly from their product download section just like any fan
129:43 Sorry, just find any fans such as the classic nff 12 pwm. Oh once I go away
129:52 If you want to download a step file to check it out sammy might have a 3d printed one for you to check out
129:58 Which is here Yeah, it is worth noting that this is not going to allow you to make your own Noctua fan
130:07 This fan that luke is holding is not really a fan so much as it is a
130:12 There's no motor model of a fan. Yeah, there's no motor in it and
130:18 Noctua says that they intentionally adjusted the geometry a little bit so that cosmetically it looks like their fans
130:26 But if you were to 3d print your own fan and actually put a motor in it, it would not achieve the same performance characteristics
130:33 You know, obviously that wouldn't prevent anyone from
130:37 You just buying a real Noctua fan and scanning it or whatever a sophisticated enough counterfeiter
130:43 Would be able to make it without this anyway But this is more for community members to
130:49 Have realistic looking Noctua products in their, you know, their renderings or whatever else. Sure
130:54 Yeah, I think I don't know. I just I just I just thought it was pretty cool. Sweet
130:59 Exactly in other sweet news
131:03 Libre pods no longer requires root for some features
131:08 So Libre pods if you're not familiar is a way to use air pods on Android and have some of the
131:15 Apple exclusive features accessible the app now works without root privileges on google pixels
131:24 Running Android 16 march update or later with the latest play system update
131:28 Google pixels running Android 17 beta 3 or above. Okay, hold on. I'm a little confused by those two
131:35 Are my do I have a problem with my notes?
131:39 Control f pixel
131:43 Okay, well Milage may vary on those two one plus devices that are running oxygen os 16 and above opo devices on color os 16 and above
131:53 and real me devices on real me ui 7.0
131:57 And above you can now get the following features without root
132:02 noise control modes ear detection
132:05 battery status head gestures And conversational awareness
132:10 There are a few more features that Libre pods supports but still require root and that's hearing aid mode
132:16 customized transparency mode and multi device connectivity. Honestly, they've nailed down
132:21 Most of the stuff that I would think I would need the app is free on the play store
132:27 But does require an in-app purchase of five euro in order to unlock all functionality
132:32 I think I actually bought it a while ago. I just need to check. Um, it's
132:37 My uh, my galaxy phone is still not on the list, but I am
132:42 Very very ready to have more
132:46 More Libre pods goodness Man, it's amazing how many updates like modern
132:54 Platforms make to make them supposedly faster and yet they are so slow
132:59 Like I remember when it's a lot of updates are not for speed youtube updated their dashboard
133:03 They claimed it was all about speed. It is still slower than it ever was like the creator dashboard and like graphs and everything
133:10 Like hello, can we can look can I search for something?
133:14 Anyway, not right now apparently. Uh, what else we got today?
133:18 Um, let's see
133:22 Boink pentathlon the LTT boink team will be competing in the seventh boink pentathlon running from 17th that makes more sense
133:32 Uh, running from may 5th to 19th in this event will go up against other tech communities
133:37 Contributing computing power through boink to support scientific research and progress
133:42 Last year LTT placed in second overall our goal this year is to take home the gold
133:48 If you want to join the competition and support science, you can find the details and sign up on the thread on the forum
133:54 Oh, I finally have a use for my computer. I'll compete this year with you guys
133:59 Here's all the details. There will be prizes Oh, wow, there's community donated prizes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah steam keys. Uh, yeah. Well, we're providing some pricing too, right?
134:09 We better be we better be well, but we're on it. We'll find some prizes. Don't worry about it
134:15 Uh, let me uh, I didn't see us in there, but we usually do. Yeah, I don't know. We'll we'll get it done
134:20 Heck yeah all right cool
134:23 Heck yeah LTT forum and
134:27 Xbox mode begins rolling out to players on Windows 11 pc's
134:32 scroll Today microsoft is expanding what used to be called the full screen experience on handhelds like the rog xbox ally
134:41 To all Windows 11 pc's laptops desktops tablets
134:45 Etc xbox mode is a full screen controller optimized interface that puts your game library front and center while minimizing background distractions
134:54 Rolling out gradually in select markets via Windows update
134:58 You can toggle it in settings then enter it with Windows and f11 from the game bar
135:05 Or by pressing the xbox button on a paired controller. Yeah, so three different ways to activate it
135:11 Discussion question is xbox mode what Windows gaming should have been all along?
135:17 Yeah Probably yeah, I mean it's it's basically the game folder from Windows vista, but like way better
135:25 Um overall, I like it ish
135:29 um
135:32 In some ways it feels like it can be a little unnecessary
135:36 Because my entire game library is in steam pretty much
135:41 Uh, but if I was someone who had a game library that spanned multiple launchers to a greater degree then
135:48 Yeah, having the the xbox mode experience consolidate them all would have more of a value to me
135:56 I definitely have multiple launchers Yeah, uh, I mean, you might like it with yeah, I might especially with um new assassin's creed
136:04 Not new assassin's creed the new assassin's creed remaster coming and stuff. It's definitely a little bit
136:10 You know full of game pass and stuff
136:13 But you don't have to click those buttons so
136:17 As they're there they'll probably annoy me. Well, let's see. Let's see
136:22 Uh Hey speaking of things that are there and might not annoy you toyota's limited edition
136:28 $3,500 crown gaming chair. I mean is here. You know what does annoy me about this is I've
136:35 I don't know man. I don't fit a lot of chairs
136:39 Just being honest. Mm-hmm. I don't so I saw this and was like no way
136:45 Let's go. I want the purchase page right now and then I saw the price
136:50 And I was like well someone will have fun with that
136:54 It looks pretty fancy
137:00 USBC I didn't notice that when I first looked at it. That is actually so funny
137:05 um Sorry, my uh, my zoom. Wait. Wait. Wait. My zoom is being a little funky. Uh here. Hold on. I'm 100 percent
137:14 Yeah, why is it $3,500 though? It's like the crown collection like the price of two monitors
137:24 That's so painful heating the cooling sounds pretty cool cooling sounds incredible the cooling sounds amazing
137:32 um I don't know what I would do with this
137:37 You know what my chair at home is right now charging I guess because it wouldn't be data like it wouldn't be connected to my computer
137:43 Don't answer that luke. We got a merge message for later. Wait. Oh, okay. Oh wait for some reason. What's in the caboose?
137:52 Uh, is that all the like is that the like
137:55 Oh, does it stuff for the heating and cooling the junk wait?
137:59 Like this needs to be like plugged in. Oh, I'm sure right which makes sense. Yeah heating and cooling
138:04 Wow, you know, I I want to try it. Is it japan only though?
138:08 I think it's japan only you just just you know, there's only about 70 units being made
138:14 Oh, why man? ah
138:20 Okay My question is if you're gonna put the work into creating it
138:26 Why so few you know, there's more than 70 people who'd be like
138:32 Toyota gaming chair and just do it 3,500 more than 70 for sure. Come on
138:40 Toyota fanboys With money and the toyota crown. You know, they didn't spend that much on their car
138:46 So the toyota crown is one of those like super fancy cars, right?
138:50 Uh, I actually I'm pretty sure it is. Don't know. What's a toyota crown?
138:55 I thought they were really nice Yeah
139:00 Yeah, it according to ai the toyota crown hybrid sedan starts at around 55,000 canadian dollars
139:09 So no not even like I said they bought a toyota So they clearly didn't overpay for their car so they can afford so they can afford a fancy chair. I guess I don't know
139:20 Is this a plug-in hybrid Is it what the chair? No the car. Oh, oh, I'm a hybrid system
139:29 If it doesn't say plug-in hybrid, then it's just a regular hybrid
139:34 powertrains limited models blah blah hybrid system
139:37 Sure, but charge hybrid max. Yeah. No, no, they're hybrid not plug-in. Ah, damn. Sorry luke
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141:04 um And what I assume this is backup
141:11 I Must be from a single console. Okay. They do that. So that must be it just says back in my notes
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141:54 We've got a couple more topics still too Do we a bank robber is trying to get out of his conviction
142:00 By claiming that geofence warrants are a violation of his constitutional rights
142:05 This is down in the states the supreme court is hearing this case
142:09 On whether a geofence warrant violates the fourth amendment's protection against unreasonable searches
142:14 What is that the case uh, well here we'll get to it the case stems from a 2019 bank robbery in richmond virginia
142:21 Where a man made off with a hundred ninety five thousand dollars
142:25 Police had no leads until they served a geofence warrant on google
142:30 Which handed over location data for every device that was in the area around the time of the robbery
142:36 Which eventually led to the man's arrest when they found a bunch of cash with them
142:43 So context of geofence warrants if you need it is police draw a virtual circle around a crime scene
142:48 Pick a time window and then ask a tech company like google to hand over data on every device that was inside that circle during that time
142:56 Practical usage tends to follow these stages
142:59 Initial sweep gives police anonymized location pings and timestamps for every device within the circle identified only by numerical IDs
143:06 Police then flag any devices that look suspicious based on movement patterns and go back to the tech company with a follow-up request
143:12 To unmask those specific accounts getting the email address's phone numbers and user names that are tied to them
143:18 In the case of google this data comes from google's location history feature
143:22 Which technically requires you to opt in but most people who use google maps or other google services are already sharing this information
143:29 So the plaintiff's lawyer argued that even anonymized location data acts like a type of fingerprint
143:35 Since your specific moving pattern movement patterns can be used to identify you
143:39 The doj countered that location data just represents public movements that anyone could observe
143:44 So the fourth amendment defense shouldn't apply
143:47 The discussion question here is that the justices seem split and generally reluctant to wait into how the fourth amendment operates in today's world
143:57 This one is complicated
144:02 Yeah, why do criminals keep bringing Identifiable phones to crime scenes. Yeah, but that's a very complicated question that I really will never understand
144:11 But then also also
144:15 Why am I able to be tracked?
144:19 in a personal I personally identifiable way by something that supposedly cares about my privacy
144:28 Yeah, I don't like that, but then counter counterpoint
144:32 If you're a narrow-do-well taking money that ultimately, you know, we all pay for like I'm not an american and I don't bank at that bank
144:39 So I have nothing to do with like that specific case, but at the end of the day
144:43 We all pay for a crime like societally
144:46 um Do I do I mind if never do well everyone there got their information flagged and taken by the government
144:54 But then counter counter counterpoint Yes, to luke's point. That's exactly what the lawyer's arguing and who's defining how big the circle is
145:03 So what if they're like, um, there was a bank robbery in north vancouver. What if
145:08 What if we circled the entire greater vancouver area and just grabbed
145:13 Everything and use this data for multiple other things going on and also so I can track
145:19 My wife's phone to see if she's going somewhere that I don't like or I'm not going to tell anyone that I just did that
145:25 What if there was no bank robbery? What if there was a protest?
145:29 Yeah, now all of a sudden it can become a tool for
145:32 government crackdown
145:38 I actually Do not
145:43 Envy the supreme court justices as they navigate this one
145:48 To be clear I have No pity for buddy who got busted stealing a bunch of money from a bank
145:56 Just desserts However
146:00 The methods do matter If you want to even maintain the branding of having a free society
146:09 And this one is Complicated they're just exercising their freedom to all of your information and data and knowing where you are all the time
146:16 Oh, that's what you think freedom is. It's just it's just freedom
146:21 I don't know what you're talking about Yeah, man freedom is uh, it's she's a complicated. She's a complicated concept. I read a really interesting essay recently on the
146:31 um, the ways that the word and the concept of freedom have been kind of perverted
146:38 From the way that a lot of people kind of
146:42 Intended them in the in the in the in the creation of sort of the the western model of free society
146:48 sure and how They've become kind of divorced from the responsibilities that accompany that freedom
146:56 And how we're not sure if that freedom will survive
147:00 um an unwillingness to also
147:05 Exercise the freedom responsibly and be a part of
147:09 Be a part of that functioning free society. Is it really interesting essay? I wish I could find the link for you guys
147:15 But um, yeah fascinating It doesn't come to a conclusion
147:19 Because it's because it's complicated archangel of death said as the saying goes your freedom ends when the freedom of the big
147:25 Corporation and government starts or something like that
147:28 Yeah, sir
147:32 Just so that everyone's clear Archangel of death meant that with a big fat slash s. Okay relax sometimes
147:42 Well, yeah, but your freedom to have your ip not ripped off just got obliterated by every single ai company on the planet. Well, yes
147:51 Luke It's good news wancho
147:54 Right, okay calm down next topic Android developers are revolting against google's 2026
148:01 Sideloading registration mandate starting september 2026 google is fundamentally changing how sideloading works on Android
148:08 Right now installing an app from outside the play store is as simple as downloading an apk and tapping install
148:14 Sort of you have to enable unknown developers whatever whatever whatever but sort of
148:18 Under the new rules every developer even hobbyists and open source contributors who never touch the play store
148:23 Must register with google verify their identity with government issued id register their app signing keys agree to google's terms and pay $25
148:30 fee If they don't their app gets silently blocked from installing on any certified Android device
148:37 google says that power users Can still install unverified apps
148:42 But the new advanced flow requires enabling developer mode by tapping the build number seven times
148:47 Navigating through multiple setting screens and waiting out a mandatory 24 hour cooling off period
148:53 Over 37 organizations including the eff
148:56 Eftroid proton next cloud and the tour project have signed an open letter demanding the google reverse course
149:03 Eftroid calls the mandate existential since its entire model relies on volunteer and
149:09 pseudonymous developers who have no reason or desire to register with google
149:13 The rollout starts in brazil indonesia singapore and thailand with a global expansion plan for 2027
149:19 custom ROMs like graphing os and linage us
149:23 Are unaffected Discussion question if installing an app on your own phone now requires a 24 hour waiting period in developer mode
149:31 Can google still call Android an open platform?
149:35 I mean, I think they can still call it whatever they want, but is it one?
149:38 Um, I don't know. I think this is something that would kind of push me to do the same thing
149:43 I'm doing with Linux right now on my phone, which is just try alternative options
149:46 Let me pitch you some food for thought
149:50 With this change, would you be more comfortable recommending an Android phone for your grandpa or grandma?
149:57 No, really I would
150:00 straight up 24 hour waiting period for it random apks the way that scams work
150:08 Zero question Now does that mean that I support the move?
150:14 Not necessarily. I see lots of problems with it
150:18 but I also can see
150:22 a good faith argument For why google wants to unmask developers on the platform and they are still offering a way that you can install anything
150:33 You know what I would like a 24 hour waiting period would functionally kill
150:38 The like, oh, yeah, grandpa. Just go here and install this and click through this and click through this
150:43 I'll wait on the phone with you while you dump all of your life savings. A lot of those scams are multi-day long
150:49 Okay, not all That's totally fair. That's what makes it so much more work. Yes, it definitely would I um
150:57 I would like to see this as a
151:01 Feature That is like family management controllable interesting. So like a fleet management feature, but okay, so here's my question though because
151:15 Who is the administrator of that though? Like as as a as a head of family like techie dude
151:21 I hear that and I go. Oh, yeah, that totally makes sense That's how I would manage it through family link and I would do this and I would do that
151:27 But most people's structure is not necessarily like that
151:34 Like I can this is one of those ones where on the surface
151:39 I can see this feels like sacrificing freedom for security in a way that I do not like
151:44 It does but I I think if you put that in the power of users
151:48 Yeah, you'll still lose some people because they're not going to have that type person in their family or whatever
151:52 But in my experience of my my grandpa living far away in a retirement village effectively
152:00 Yep, there was like an it person
152:03 Thing I don't even know what I would call it It was like the person that everyone in that town because it was it was a pretty sprawling area
152:10 But it was and everyone had their own homes and stuff, but it was a retirement focused area. I don't even know
152:15 I'm sure it has a name. I don't know what it is Um retirement community sure
152:20 And I don't know if this person's shop was like on site in that community or not
152:24 But like just everybody knew who he was Um
152:28 and He had a particular way of dealing with everyone
152:32 Which was actually like kind of neat Because it was like the only person everybody really used word of mouth was everywhere
152:39 That like if you were have like if your laptop was screwed up You just exchange you and then fix yours and like sell it to somebody else or whatever
152:45 Like he was pretty good about just like keeping people going Okay, and he had basically like team viewer on everyone's systems
152:52 Which I know But he could tap in if he like needed to help you with something because there would often be like
152:58 Oh, there's something going on with whatever that's what our change of death says 24 hours is enough time for my elderly family members
153:03 To call me just to check if they're doing the right thing I'm still fundamentally against it for other reasons and I think that actually summarizes
153:10 sort of Where I am at right now. I haven't had a lot of time to think about it. My reason for this very long story
153:17 Oh, sorry. Okay, whoever that dude was. Yeah, could maybe enable this thing for these people
153:22 That he was a good actor. What if he wasn't? Yeah, then disaster
153:28 And this is a not a good actor and you're in that dude's position this 24 hour window will not stop you
153:34 This is true fools and horses has a really good point and asks asks the question
153:39 Has Android gotten so large That the risk of being called negligent for allowing these things and for not putting obstacles in the way
153:48 Is greater than the risk of their disgruntled customers over the loss of freedom loss of
153:54 openness How much of the market would they really lose?
153:58 And I think that's got to be the question that google is asking themselves as they navigate this decision
154:04 And I I suspect the answer for how many people they're going to lose is
154:09 Extremely small. Yeah um
154:13 And then that's not like that's not me saying that I support the decision
154:18 I'm just saying that that's The reality is that most people are not even watching the wanshow
154:25 Not even aware of this would have never side-loaded an apk. Anyway, unless some rando told them to do it in which case
154:33 This was probably a thing um
154:38 So g freak asks why is this?
154:41 Also, oh, okay. Sorry. They're responding to someone else. Yeah, never mind. Um, yeah, ann m white says it won't be zero
154:47 But yeah, it will be small Leaving one's most experienced os and just like switching is like kind of a pain like honestly
154:54 That's why Yvonne's still on iOS not because she prefers it
154:58 But just after she did the iphone challenge. She's just like oh switching phone phones
155:03 Pain in the butt. It really is and just I I do think it's going to be pretty negligible
155:08 Our comey and says leave to what iOS. I mean graffin os is an option
155:14 iOS um I saw I saw cool. Uh, this was cool. This was not really good news enough to be good news wanshow, but um
155:23 Windows phone Android launcher someone's uh, someone is working on or
155:28 um Made oh no, apparently this is old
155:33 Just uh an Android launcher that like looks a lot like Windows phone tried that was pretty cool
155:38 Anyway, that's it. That was a little highlight for that I I don't think we're going to reach a conclusion on this one because I don't think that it's it's cut and dried
155:45 It's not simple. I do I do appreciate google's um
155:52 Position that they are still allowing side loading
155:56 With these caveats and for me for my use of Android the handful of times that i've needed to sideload
156:03 This would have been good enough. This would have been a minor inconvenience. Where does the slope end?
156:09 Are we on the slipper so so and I can't tell I don't know that we are i'm not trying to claim necessarily where we are
156:15 I don't either. There are there are times where I have been like this is a slope
156:19 I don't know that this one is but it it smells like one. It well, okay
156:24 In a vacuum, I would push back If this was the only change that google had made to Android over the last five years
156:31 Then I'd be like luke come on. Yeah, they've been good stewards. They've done this. They've done that
156:37 In the context of everything that google has done though with chrome and with Android
156:42 um But their products in general over
156:45 I mean the last while It's a lot harder for me to do that. I've they've lost my trust. Yeah
156:52 And I think that's a big part of it. It's like they've There was a time when google might have done this and said trust me bro. I got you and I said, okay, I would have
157:02 I still have a little bit of that with them, but not as much as before I feel like they uh
157:07 Let's check in on killed by google I feel like they've been slowing down, but I'm not sure
157:21 Okay, so 2026 and beyond is these
157:26 Oh, okay. Yeah, that's actually not that much compared to I mean
157:31 2024 being like
157:35 What all of this the post covet time was a big
157:39 Was a time of a lot of consolidation for the big tech companies
157:45 Team sizes shrank projects were abandoned. It wasn't just google at that time
157:51 Wow That's me. Yeah, the google is like the the corporate
157:58 Uh embodiment of throw things at the wall and see what sticks man
158:02 Yeah And this next uh after dark segment is the embodiment of throw questions at
158:12 Us and producer Dan. He's a rubber made bin shelf now. There he is
158:17 Uh throw questions at us and see what sticks
158:21 I have become square Let me get us changed over uh after dark
158:28 And I have to push this button to Sorry that came out of nowhere. It was unprepared
158:35 You good Hey lld
158:39 I've been thinking about this lately badminton is super popular around the world
158:42 But most pluriplayers aside from the very top don't seem to make nearly as much as athletes in other big sports
158:51 I think about this a lot. So
158:55 Take this for the semi-informed
158:58 Um Rant that it kind of is
159:02 Um, I think it's a number of problems and I think that
159:07 bwf So badminton world federation is doing some things right to address it
159:13 For for instance, they actually just recently changed the scoring format. So
159:18 In the in the olden days. So I guess this ended ended in the 90s or early 2000s. I think badminton was done with service point
159:26 So that is that you can only score a point when you begin the rally with the serve. Okay, so it was service point
159:34 Sets of 15 and then best of three sets
159:37 The problem with service point is that the games would sometimes drag on forever
159:42 It was an enormous burden on the athletes and when you consider that oftentimes during tournaments, they're playing back to back to back
159:50 Across subsequent days It could put you at a major disadvantage if one of your
159:56 If one of your sets dragged on for a really long time because you have to win by two
160:00 So a service point win by two means that you could
160:04 just defensively carry things forever and it really
160:08 Rewarded endurance and less aggressive play. So it was changed to rally point
160:14 So you can win a point on any service, whether it's yours or the other players
160:18 Um, so I believe in the I believe in the 2000s don't quote me on that
160:22 But I believe it was the 2000s to encourage a more aggressive style of play
160:27 But to make sure the matches weren't crazy short. It was changed to 21 points per set
160:33 I think the 21 point service point or excuse me 21 point rally point format still best of three
160:41 Was horrible for the game Not for the players the players like it and they actually from my understanding still mostly like it
160:49 And there's a lot of resistance to the new scoring format, which is 15 points rally point
160:57 But why I think it's so detrimental to the sport is it's really boring to watch
161:04 A 21 point match I mean, tell me how important in hockey
161:09 How important is the first goal to you as a player right? Yeah, extremely extremely important from the opening faceoff from that moment
161:19 The entire game could be riding on the line It's also a significant amount of like fear at any point in time that something might happen
161:24 Which could result in a goal Okay, like if you see if you're if you're you know if the
161:29 If the enemy team is in your team zone and you're a fan
161:33 You're shaking in your boots At most stages of the game. Yes. Okay
161:38 So counterpoint what if a hockey game was played to 21 goals?
161:43 Yeah, you don't care that much the first goal are you
161:47 Almost doesn't matter So what's happened and especially you got to set the tone especially in a format that
161:55 Is is like a seeded bracketed tournament where your top seeds are playing against your bottom seeds
162:02 Up until you reach realistically like the the round of 16 or quarter finals
162:08 You end up with a lot of boring play
162:11 That no one cares about Because the first like a little bit of the game is everyone just kind of like settling in
162:20 And then after that you've got like a very obvious who's going to win and who's not going to win
162:25 And there's very little upset in the rally point system because
162:30 A better player will just win more points
162:33 And there's less like oh, but hold on he could defend
162:37 He could defend their service regain the serve
162:41 And like like like scrape his way back into the game
162:45 You don't really get as many momentum swings and you get don't get as many upsets
162:49 And you get a lot of the game that's just kind of like people are the players themselves are kind of tuned out
162:54 They're not going as hard And I think it's really boring to watch
162:59 The other thing that contributes to badminton being boring to watch is the camera is is the broadcast the camera angles
163:07 suck They do such a poor job
163:10 I remember showing someone like a really high level badminton match at one point and i'm going well
163:15 Why are they just like lobbing it to each other and i'm like
163:18 Bro, if I hit those shots to you on a court
163:23 And you like properly understood from the actual movement how far they're going they travel
163:29 Way farther in way less time than top level tennis players, but you don't know that from watching it. You can't tell
163:36 Like the sheer athleticism of the game is not apparent from farther. I don't think that's true way farther
163:41 It's not even close. You cannot think it's true, but it's in the amount of time. I think you're totally right
163:45 But no it's it's not even close. I promise you
163:49 Men so it's a men singles to men singles like top level olympic match comparison someone did the math total distance move
163:55 Total distance okay, I think yeah, I think we're talking about different things Total distance moved is higher
164:00 And it's in less time Both of those things it's crazy like what they're doing out there and the explosiveness of the movement. It's a great game
164:08 It's a wonderful game You can't tell the the the the angles do it no service whatsoever and especially the english-speaking commentators
164:18 They might as well be commentating golf
164:22 So i'm coming around to my point finally you should commentate a game
164:26 It'd be fun. I'd not experienced. I'm not like I it would still be very amateur and like crappy and boring bring one
164:34 This is how game casting does it bring one person
164:37 On who bring one of the people from badminton insights
164:42 And you And then you have like you're the energy right and they're the facts person
164:48 Okay, you know what that's kind of an interesting idea. It's kind of an interesting idea. I kind of I kind of like the idea
164:54 Um Anyway, I'm coming around to my point here So you ask why the players aren't paid as much and it's because
165:02 In my humble opinion I see a lot of resistance from the players
165:07 To rule changes that would make the game more entertaining to watch
165:12 Where does money come from? Interesting. It doesn't
165:15 Necessarily come from people playing the game in their backyards. They'll go and they'll buy a racket from yonix or victor or whatever
165:21 So there's revenue coming into the companies that are that are sponsoring these events
165:26 But it's not necessarily attributable to the players
165:29 It's not attributable necessarily to the broadcast except like you said to those very top players
165:34 Where the matches are interesting where anyone could win So I would actually like to see them go even farther in the reduction of points per set
165:42 I'd like to see something that's closer to like a tennis scoring system
165:46 Uh, so for badminton because the rallies are generally shorter
165:49 What I'd like to see is maybe like best of five sets
165:53 But playing service point to like five points or seven points. So very very very short sets
166:02 But that have service point in order to give an opportunity for upset victories because
166:07 Realistically even if I'm a much better badminton player than you I could make three mistakes
166:12 If you know, yeah, I'm kidding. Yeah, but but I could make three mistakes. Sure. Sure. Now the pressure's on
166:18 Yeah, yeah, right you create tension. I want tension and I want excitement
166:23 The whole time I'm watching think about sports that are fun to watch that keep you on the edge of your seat
166:28 The whole time you're watching anything could happen. Yeah, it's a yeah, it's always tension badminton doesn't achieve that
166:34 All the ideas your idea is very interesting all the ideas. I've been trying to think of while sitting here
166:38 I don't think work for the players at all. I had one where like if your rally gets
166:43 Far enough in It starts it becomes like worth more or something
166:49 But like that now you have no players like counting on
166:53 Course it doesn't work. Yeah, it would be kind of fun as like a video game, but it doesn't work as like a sport
166:58 Yeah, like and then and then if you get enough multiplier bonus you could have you could nuke your opponent from orbit
167:04 With the geo positioning laser if you if you go six six rally back and forth you can like double jump
167:11 You could do a special a special combo move
167:18 Um helicopter hit. Yeah, so there. Sorry. That's my extremely long answer to what I think is wrong with badminton is it's not
167:24 It's not fun enough to watch a lot of sports have that problem. Yeah, it also has the problem of like
167:30 being very very multinational and therefore
167:35 um It being hard to get like good common language interviews
167:41 For your various geographies of audience. Yeah, um
167:46 Ah It's tough It like it's it's a funny thing because in general
167:52 I I find myself Not liking the corporatization of sports
167:58 Like it it kind of sucks that Macklin Celebrini doesn't play for the f***ing vancouver canucks given he's from here
168:06 He's like the most exciting player in hockey right now pretty freaking cool. Yeah, I don't think I would mind that. That'll be awesome
168:17 Um And like the fact that connor mcdavid doesn't play for the toronto maple Leafs is like
168:24 You know kind of ridiculous Uh, where where's where sid from he's from he's from uh, novus kosher. I think right
168:30 So the fact that the hartford whalers don't get to still exist and sid plays for them like come on, man
168:35 That was like, okay, so Yeah, this is very true with hockey where like americans will be like, oh, well, we beat you and it's like
168:42 Yeah, you do has a lot of canadiens on it, but then baseball in stella cup you look at the Toronto Raptors
168:48 It's like all the canadiens finally made it was like kind of where they're like two canadiens on a team or something
168:53 Yeah, it's kind of a lot of americans So so as much as I so as much as I don't love the corporatization of of sport where like the vancouver canucks is just a brand
169:03 It has no meaning like there was at one point. There was more swedes than canadiens on the team
169:08 Which I don't mind. I have nothing against swedes. I just Historically been a big thing for vancouver to have a like disproportionate amount of just like basically the canucks were team sweden at one point
169:16 Yeah, um, and and so I don't like that
169:21 But what that does a really good job of
169:24 Is like getting people excited about, you know, like their team
169:30 Whereas when it's like the national team If you don't happen to have a star player, especially in a more individual sport like badminton
169:37 There's like nothing kind of nothing to cheer for whereas if you just you know had the you know, the malaysia aces
169:44 and you know the The the the the canadian geese or you know, like you had you you did more branding around it
169:52 Then yeah, I think there's uh, and I think there's a chance
169:55 To to there's also a build long-term fandom. Yeah, like people will identify like they'll wear the hat
170:02 You know, like i'm a i'm a chargers fan You know, i'm a raptors guy sure nobody nobody very few people do that except like on the court
170:12 Like they'll they'll wear like, you know a jersey or whatever for their favorite player
170:15 But there's not that that team branding and it works
170:19 It works. I don't make the rules it works
170:22 This is an ignorance thing is most of the world as interested in sports at all as north america is oh, dude. Yeah
170:30 Like as a viewer as a fan dude like cricket in india, right crazy
170:36 Is that them having a massive population? It's just crazy. Okay, and like dude at soccer
170:43 Soccer or south america. Yes spectator hundred percent hundo pee the brits hundo pee. Yeah, so that's pretty huge
170:50 Yeah, huge
170:54 Oh, yeah, yeah agent renzo's japan loves baseball dude the way that japan just kind of was like
170:59 Oh this american thing. Nope. It's a japanese thing now by the way the greatest player on the face of the earth is japanese
171:06 He's an absolute god at absolutely everything like japan just exploded into the baseball scene
171:12 That's been that's been wild to watch over my lifetime. I just like whenever i'm traveling
171:17 Literally anywhere that i've gone i've never been to india, but anywhere that i've gone. Yeah, you don't see it
171:23 Hmm interesting. That's what i mean
171:28 Like if like in canada you go basically anywhere and you're gonna see somebody wearing something to do with some sports team
171:36 In america same deal. Would you necessarily recognize their sports attire? Not necessarily, but usually sports attire has kind of a vibe it does
171:45 A solid color big logo, but i wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily there are definitely i there i've
171:52 Guarantee you there are cricket teams i would have no idea. Yeah
171:57 Yeah, all right hit us Dan and sometimes some soccer jerseys just look like an advertisement. This is true
172:05 Hey dll loving the cables. Do we have any news on DisplayPort or HDMI?
172:11 The news is that we're working on development But realistically even if we got our golden samples and signed off and said go
172:18 There's no production capacity for them until we can somewhat catch up on usbc and usba
172:26 So we're working on it. We're gonna do it They're not gonna be the same so they're gonna be a little bit more rigid just because the conductors are so thick
172:36 So they're gonna have like a bit more like memory to them But they're still gonna have the same outer sheath so there's be super uv resistant
172:42 And they'll have that kind of that nice feel to them And obviously the signal quality will be a top priority, but they won't have quite the same flexibility
172:51 So that's something to watch out for
172:54 Hello dll steam frame height. Oh, I know if it ever comes out
172:59 Any opinion on the way valve has handled the release so far has luke tried the controller. I have not. Oh, yeah
173:05 You should you should borrow one just to try it out. It's it's different It's
173:09 Definitely better for people with big hands than for people with my size mitts when I saw the imagery of it
173:14 I thought that'd probably be true. She's a thick boy the big pads man. Yeah. Yeah
173:19 um As for how valves handled the release so far, I don't think valve had a choice
173:25 Obviously valve would have loved to have the steam controller and the steam machine and the steam frame come out at the same time
173:31 I'm like no question, but It's already in the warehouse for the controllers. You gotta start moving them. Yeah
173:38 Um, I I saw in your review that the thumb collision thing
173:42 I suspect I'll have an issue with that. Right. You don't love the symmetrical thumb sticks. Neither do I really hate it
173:47 Neither do I really hate it
173:51 Read bad man A yep dll
173:55 It's great to watch live from the uk from your limited experience with it
173:58 Would you say that the steam machine will be worth the wait or bite the bullet and upgrade my i7
174:04 7700k at today's prices There are some deals to be had on DRAM right now. I don't know how long they're gonna last
174:11 It's fun. It's funny looking at them be like, oh, it's whatever percentage off. It's like, yeah
174:16 Yeah, don't ignore that. Just look at the price
174:20 If you can snag a deal, I would snag the deal you can snag and I wouldn't wait much longer
174:25 I7 7700k is old enough that um
174:29 There are modern games that are going to benefit from a from a big upgrade for you
174:35 I would go for it Hi, Linus and team. Are you still running an lg tv OLED as your work monitor?
174:43 Any annoyances you've come across and how did you fix them?
174:46 um I'm not anymore the biggest annoyance
174:51 It has got to be the auto brightness control as you go from from windowed applications to full screen applications
174:57 There's not a ton that can really be done about that
175:01 The monitor that i'm using for work right now is the one that we did a sponsored LTT for
175:07 This thing is absolutely knucking futs
175:11 Whoa, it's 52 inches 6k and the way del markets it is as like a 4k
175:18 um, what's the size of the 4k they
175:22 They compare it to I don't remember but basically it's like
175:26 61 44 by 25 60 at 120 hertz this thing is
175:31 Wild so it's like having a 4k display and then like 210 80s flanking it
175:36 Um, and it's 52 inches across it's curved. It's got a built-in Thunderbolt hub. So I just roll up with my laptop
175:43 Plug in And all my peripherals are ready to rock my webcam my mic everything's good to go
175:49 It's IPS. So there's no tom foolery around like auto brightness and dimming and anything like that
175:56 It's like four thousand canadian dollars. So it's like three grand us
176:00 I was gonna say I think I'll keep my uh, my three monitors. It's the nicest monitor that I use but could never recommend
176:06 You know what i'm saying? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's fair enough and hopefully, you know that
176:11 You're seeing prices like of
176:16 Standard class monitors. I don't 1080 1440p monitors right now
176:20 Constantly coming down. Yeah stuff like that'll come down eventually and for the for the price. I would
176:25 solidly recommend the 42 inch tv instead
176:28 that's uh Even with the distractions and annoyances
176:32 I remember we did a video a while back on how you can get like a service remote for the lg and you there's more stuff
176:37 You can adjust. I don't know that that's true of the newer ones though. I think I was on like a c2 at the time
176:42 Yeah, I've got a c2 is my main monitor and 52 inches nice and they're pretty damn cheap
176:48 Uh, let's see what else is next. Hey, look, how are you liking tarkov 1.0?
176:54 Uh, I was having a pretty okay time with it
176:57 And then you sound so enthusiastic. We and then we Linux challenged
177:01 I do want to escape from tarkov. I want to like complete the game which is possible now
177:05 Okay, hit me up. Hit me up. I'll join. Yeah, I'll I'll be your boat anchor
177:09 You think I'll have fun Um, we'll see how that goes, especially because like I was playing
177:15 decently close to launch and doing okay
177:18 But if I jumped in now, everyone's gonna have like crazy gear So it might make sense for me to wait for a wipe again and then try to beat it then but
177:26 We'll see Hello dll from the netherlands question one. My company is looking to give none techie users
177:34 Uh to vibe code in house apps
177:38 Users think will help them With their work. What's your thoughts?
177:43 Um, also when's the LTT vibe code video coming out? I talked about that earlier. Oh, you did. Okay. So yeah, it's it's dead
177:49 It'll maybe be a Floatplane exclusive with like sort of roughly cut together
177:53 But it's just it's been so long since I did the challenge that it just doesn't seem that relevant today
177:59 um So i'm gonna hear your question and take in a slightly different angle, but
178:05 An interesting application for vibe coding that i've thought of recently that i've kind of pitched to somebody internally who was
178:12 Trying to vibe code their own thing, but something that would be pretty sketchy to vibe code
178:16 um Was how about you try to vibe code it on your own?
178:21 and use that as the request
178:25 Yeah, so like Make this but not crap. Yeah, basically because one of the most difficult parts is actually getting out of someone's brain
178:34 What they actually want and you'd think that wouldn't
178:38 Be that hard, but it's really really difficult sometimes
178:43 That was what I expected to be the conclusion of the vibe coding challenge
178:47 Yeah Was that the best use of it for someone like me was to make a proof of concept that I could then hand to a developer and go
178:54 This is what I needed to do now It does everything I needed to do make it not suck and i'm not gonna lie
178:58 If you handed your version to Dan and he got to start with that instead of your notes
179:03 I bet you would have done a better job and your notes weren't even like that bad
179:06 Like compared to most people pitching things your notes were pretty good. Some people will
179:11 Give you just nothing and it's like I tried to put a lot of thought into it
179:17 Like I what I tried to do was I tried to provide Dan
179:20 With the same prompting. Yeah that I would give to an llm. Yeah
179:24 because if You know if the llm can't do it then he can't do it for sure or like if he can't do it then the llm can't do it
179:31 That's that's what I was going for so he would have to have all the information
179:35 So I tried to actually try like tried to be extra super serial like thorough. Yeah
179:40 um So like I I think that can be kind of neat like let this person brainstorm with themselves effectively and come up with like a
179:49 Yeah, I mean this thing doesn't necessarily work or maybe it's like a
179:53 Just absolute nightmare for security reasons or whatever else
179:56 But this is kind of what I wanted to do you can poke around and see the intention
180:00 And then take that and actually make a thing out of it sounds pretty cool
180:04 Um a company really encouraging their employees to do that. I mean, yeah, sounds like security problems depending on what your
180:11 company works on
180:15 I've also seen people do some really cool stuff with vibe coding. I I'm pretty sure
180:20 What's his name? Hank green? Uh, Hank green youtube
180:25 Let's go to his channel He has a video
180:29 The Artemis photos you didn't see yet And then in here he vibe coded a website called Artemis timeline
180:37 And you can go through and see the the photos that were taken
180:42 And the like time of day and which camera took it and what they were supposed to be doing at the time
180:49 And all that kind of stuff and he
180:53 Put this together with some vibe coding and it didn't perfectly work and he had to step in and
180:59 Make some changes to it and improve things and fix data and whatnot
181:02 But like he got part of the way there with vibe coding
181:06 And if it if you're not Hank green and you can't take it the rest of the way there
181:10 Um, maybe within your company you can hand it off to somebody who can yeah
181:14 It's funny you bring up like creators using vibe coding. I was at creator summit recently and I spoke to at least one
181:20 I'll just put it that way creator who uses vibe coding very regularly in their projects and just doesn't disclose it
181:27 Yeah, because they just don't feel like dealing with the hate because at the end of the day
181:31 All the viewers care about is like the end result of the product. They're never gonna audit the code
181:37 It doesn't matter because they're never going to ship it to anyone and they just love it
181:42 I know multiple creators personally that that use it and don't disclose it
181:48 But they're also not like shipping. Yeah, these are tools for themselves. Yeah, yeah
181:54 Like and and hank green did but he disclosed it
181:58 I think like multiple times in one video like he wasn't uh, that's a hank green thing to do. Yeah
182:05 Sure is And it's a cool site. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Cool. What's up boys? Luke?
182:09 What specific charity use at home when sitting at your computer and gaming?
182:14 Uh I
182:20 Had the name on my head earlier and I don't remember Uh, let me see one second. I took that from you. I can I can find it pretty easily
182:28 Do do do Computer oh my god
182:38 The Marcus the Ikea Marcus
182:42 That's it nice solid It's cheap. It's not that good
182:50 Nice Hello, legendary lords of devices. This question mostly goes to luke. Wow three in a row
182:56 But Linus is free to answer as well. I've heard you mentioned playing balder's gate three before
183:02 What's your favorite class to play? Oh, dude
183:05 I don't think Linus is gonna have one of these. I don't think you've played it. I always play mage chicks
183:10 Okay Mage chicks I think are world of warcraft or dragon
183:14 Dragon age or like whatever. I'm just I'm just I go straight for the mage chick
183:18 I personally think those are cooler in divinity because the the interaction of all the spells with each other
183:22 We don't do that kind of stuff. Um fighter
183:27 Classic So second balder's gate. They're crazy, dude
183:32 They're nuts attacking like six times in one turn is just crazy
183:38 Jumping all over the place. Yeah They're nuts
183:42 I like one of the designers for balder's gate must have looked at d&d and been like fighters are boring
183:47 What if we just gave them crack?
183:50 Just like what happens worked for the germans
183:53 basically Yeah, um, so I don't know those are fun. Um
183:59 I like tons of stuff that I've played. I've played a bunch of different classes, but yeah, just just
184:05 Senate just full sending laser down fighter is is sick
184:10 All right DLL if LTT could pivot to a completely channel unrelated topic for one week. What would you cover?
184:17 Also, thanks for the new shipping perk. I upgraded to Floatplane plus because I did the math and I would actually save money
184:24 Uh, yeah, if you order a fair bit from LTT Store, it's uh, it's kind of a no-brainer. Um, the Floatplane perk includes, um
184:33 Always free shipping. I have clarified with the team that is apparently forever
184:37 So free shipping over a threshold, but during shipstorm the threshold is even lower
184:43 Oh, okay. Yeah, okay um
184:47 It would probably be okay. This is gonna sound crazy, but I think it would be like going to garage sales
184:54 If it was just for a week just like a throwaway thing
184:58 I would I would probably I would I would probably like thrift or like go to garage this I love hunting for deals
185:03 Garage yard wars and it'd be kind of fun to like not have to bother with computer deals for a change
185:09 I'd like I think that would be a blast Linus and Luke just go to garage sales. I would watch I would watch the crap out of that
185:17 I was thinking I don't feel like this is My personal vote which I think everyone's going to get pissed about but my personal vote is that we maybe don't even do a
185:24 Scrapyard Wars this year. Oh, we're not doing money. Yeah, okay. Everything's just kind of a mess
185:28 But I was thinking next time we bring it back. I think you and I should be teamed up
185:34 Oh, I don't know you just want a trophy. Maybe
185:42 I don't know what the challenge is. I don't know why it makes sense But I think it would be fun. It's just gonna be two adults beating up toddlers at that point
185:49 No, we've done it before. Yeah, we we lost ones when we were teamed up. I think really nope
185:54 Did we not we did and then figured out that they cheated. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Yeah
185:58 But they did they did super well, and I think they only really cheated because their part like died, which was
186:05 unfortunate, but we still win
186:08 Hello Linus Luke and Dan what has been the biggest tech interruption caused by pets once I had our dog rip a DSL cable
186:15 Which took down internet and television for a few hours And I was a kid. We had a pet rabbit and they chewed through all of the cables behind the TV
186:23 Nice and then my brother and I didn't think quite as highly of the rabbit
186:31 Yeah, I can imagine you two not being into that Not a pet, but I had rats
186:36 Destroy both our minivan and Yvonne's SUV recently
186:41 Making nests in them and chewing through wires They both had they both had to go in for work over the last like few months
186:47 Yikes pretty not impressed by that. So I have to like I have to like rodent proof my garage now
186:52 Which is just you know the kind of thing I love doing on a weekend
186:57 I had that problem ages ago that in an effort to be green they made the wires out of cellulose
187:03 Let's just make wait really yeah, it was some derivative or something Let's just make all the wires in the car out of rat food a great choice
187:10 okay as much as As much as it's like a champagne problem. I was talking to my uncle about
187:19 sort of green initiatives in manufacturing and how they sometimes have unintended consequences
187:25 And he was saying that in some ways an older airframe is actually more desirable than a newer one
187:33 And the reason is that the EPA mandates the use of more ecologically friendly primers
187:40 On the frames now that just crack and fail after
187:46 Not that many years compared to the old ones like crazy expensive because I don't know it flies
187:52 And so the one from 1990 he was telling me it's actually
187:56 more economical to carefully remove only the paint
188:02 And then just touch up the primer With the because you can't use the old stuff anymore
188:07 So you just like touch up the spots where you like accidentally went through it
188:11 Then it is to like strip it and reprim it because of how often you'll have to completely strip it and reprim it now
188:18 and everyone knows this and just Keeps doing it and it sort of raises the question
188:24 How much eco-friendly paint? Do you need to use before it would have been better to just paint it once with the not eco-friendly paint?
188:32 And I I don't know the answer to that. I also wonder what about it is not eco-friendly and and how not eco-friendly it is
188:38 Because it could be that that original primer is just like really brutal
188:41 It could be as bad as painting it six times Right, but unless we unless we know for sure that math which maybe someone has done but I just
188:50 I just doubt it like how many times do they have to manufacture the cable harness and mine and Dan's car
188:55 Before it would have been better to just use the less eco-friendly cable harness. Yeah, what if it's rat food?
188:59 You know what I mean? I mean the potential the manufacturing of the product could also be super super brutal
189:06 Like maybe not so much for for wire, you know installation, but
189:11 Sometimes these have unintended consequences bro. Mm-hmm a bro. What I just got some good news. What I just got a tracking number
189:24 Uh-oh no or here here. I'll bring I'll bring it up here. I'll bring it up here
189:30 I told these guys at CES. I guess it was
189:36 Did we even make a video?
189:39 Caddo s stop tracking people
189:42 Uh Uh
189:49 I don't think I made a video Did I do a short bro? What are you talking about? You gotta tell me what you're talking about. Okay, okay
189:56 Okay, do you remember four systems the guys who did that like air jet thing? Yeah, okay at CES
190:05 They showed off something called liquid jet
190:10 so Traditional cold plates, right like water blocks are made by taking a plate of copper
190:16 And then you either you like mill a design in it. So, you know like little pins or whatever
190:22 Or or like a lot of modern ones use what's called skived copper
190:27 Where you take a blade and so you take that flat piece of copper and you like
190:31 Shave a sliver of copper and then like fold it up and then make another fin and make another video of making heat
190:37 Skive copper so cool. Anyway That's a traditional way
190:41 Your geometries are pretty limited because it's subtractive or like like using the malleability of the copper to reshape it
190:49 So Roar is using more like
190:54 um More like uh, like like silicon
190:58 Manufacturing so they're using like metal deposition
191:03 Like you would like you would make microchips
191:06 so By using copper deposition
191:09 They can make geometries that are like
191:14 Like out of this world More firmly efficient than even skived copper
191:20 Um, this is not a good that's not what i'm getting. That's not what i'm getting
191:25 I'm getting just oh no, no, you can keep that up though. I'm getting just the like cooling engines at the top right
191:30 I'm getting two So we're gonna try putting one on a gaming GPU cool and just like
191:37 Seeing how fast she go this this stuff's so cool. So I was I've been working on this since january
191:44 um And I was like, yeah, I don't see the point of me making. Yeah, I remember now
191:49 I was like, I don't see the point of me making a video about like here's a demo on a GPU
191:53 No one will ever own but i'm really excited about this and I really want to work with you guys
191:57 But I want one and it's taken until now to kind of give them all the reassurances that like
192:04 you know We're not going to judge them based on that the you know the the vrms are going to be hotter
192:10 Because it's not a full coverage solution and just like no no no guys is yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're good. We're good. We're good
192:16 I'm dude. I'm stoked. I'm so stoked to check it out. Yeah, nice. That's sweet
192:22 Yeah, howdy from texas mechanical slash manufacturing engineer here
192:26 What manufacturing methods do y'all use in the production of your products or any product in general that still fascinates you today?
192:36 Injection molding I was going to say it's all kind of fascinating casting
192:41 um three little printing
192:44 uh I mean lots of different things laser engraving
192:50 Um, I mean we have a lot of like small scale stuff in house, but realistically, you know, we're
192:56 We're we're using industrial scale manufacturers for for a lot of the stuff that makes it to LTT Store
193:03 Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to produce in any meaningful volume. So I i'm very fascinated by manufacturing technology
193:10 but Unless you asked me a specific product, then I I wouldn't really be able to I wouldn't really be able to narrow it down too much
193:19 I'm afraid
193:24 Sorry Linus and luke about to quit my job to be an executive at a startup post huge step mall business focused on home services
193:33 After seeing many businesses rise and fall. What are the biggest indicators of success tips culture?
193:40 You have to have a culture that's hungry and wants to win
193:44 At times we've had a very hungry winning oriented culture and at times we've had a very complacent
193:52 um, collect a paycheck culture and and at times we've had mixed and at times we've had a mix that has been at various
194:01 levels of health And I would say that if there's anything that I could tell you to focus on it's have a culture that is laser focused on
194:10 Just winning and being hungry and and six failure is not an option
194:18 Hey lip-lap dap You mentioned a while ago that you were going to hold a smash tournament as a middle finger to nintendo's crazy guidelines
194:27 Any updates to that for the future of whale land? We got yelled at of the el coin by our own people
194:34 Yeah, we basically I'm not going to tell you my wife said no
194:42 But my wife said no
194:45 And she was right she usually is sometimes she's not
194:51 Hypothetically I I imagine sometimes she's not but usually she's usually she's right
194:58 Sometimes she can be very very conservative
195:02 Um in terms of like like cya, you know covering our butts, but that has you know
195:09 And and there are times when it's very annoying to navigate that
195:12 But then we'll get audited and we like pass our audits
195:16 And I'm like Right good Good job, you know
195:23 Do you have any recommendations on what I should use on my px 13 for the memory modules?
195:28 I plan on repasting my
195:32 CPU to get the to get rid of the liquid metal before I kill my unit
195:37 I plan to use btm 7 950 for processing
195:41 Oh It's less a matter of what you should use and it's more a matter of what thickness you should use
195:49 Uh, you may want to try checking with ASUS. They may be willing to tell you if they're not willing to tell you
195:56 Then uh, man Your best bet might be to just take it off and measure the thickness of those thermal pads
196:02 And then make sure that you're not putting in something that is thinner or thicker than what's already in there
196:06 Or you could just keep using the thermal pads that are in there I mean realistically are those going to be a real problem for you? Is your memory overheating?
196:15 There's no liquid metal on the memory so I if I if it was me
196:19 The convenient way would be to just reuse my thermal pads there. That's going to be that's going to be my my low friction
196:25 recommendation What's your opinion on the online belief that the steam machine will include a controller on launch?
196:32 I'm interested, but the price worries me. Also. What's the status on the physical Linus corn shipping?
196:38 Uh status on the physical coins is they are in manufacturing and if you check your order confirmation
196:43 It should tell you like when they're expected to be
196:46 being minted Um as for the steam machine including a controller from my understanding it should include a controller
196:52 That was what valve pretty sure told me when I went down there for the announcement or the unveiling
196:58 Um if if something changed due to the way the market is right now
197:03 I wouldn't actually like hold valve to the coals over it
197:08 Like it's a tough situation that they're in. Um, but for my understanding that is the intent
197:16 Hello from toronto I just finished see stars and i'm looking for my next fix got any recommendations for more retro vibe fun times
197:25 Already finished crosscode from your WAN Show recommendation
197:29 ooh
197:33 Is it retro or is it jrpg because you could you recommend exposition 33?
197:38 Oh exposition 33 is so good. Not retro looking
197:42 but jrpg Not technically it's not retro vibe fun time french rpg. Oh, they want a retro vibe fun time
197:52 Uh chain chain decos chain decos is another one. I played and really enjoyed the story gets a little sort of weird
197:58 But that's kind of typical of the genre. Um toward the end
198:06 Chain decos was my answer Dan. Oh, there you go. Sorry and last one I got for you today is hey
198:13 DLL is there any plan to make a windbreaker coat love from labelle province?
198:19 um I think so
198:24 I actually don't know i'm so sorry you might have to message support
198:28 and I think I'm gonna Message support that it's time for the end of the show
198:34 We'll see you again next week same bad time different channel
198:39 You want to head over to the WAN Show channel? We're gonna we're gonna have to transition over there pretty quick because this whole streaming on both is not working
198:46 We might have to figure out the collab feature. I don't know apparently that isn't a thing
198:49 Maybe but you could collab launch the vaude
198:53 Okay, I don't know See you later
198:59 Bye I have to fly yeah
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