What's up flow plane and technically twitch chat
Really What you acknowledged twitch chat I did that's crazy. No one's irredeemable
Whoa, I mean they're on twitch
Okay, we're just we're just we're just kidding you guys we just we're just kidding you guys
We don't actually hate twitch if that's an old enough meme though that like I feel like a lot of current people might not yeah
We always used to meme on twitch chat
Because they were kind of toxic awful. Yeah, they deserved it. Yeah, everything that we ditched. Yeah
I think we might just have to go live with the show today. Sorry. I don't have a ton of time
No, no, you're good
By the way fan
Sorry, is it yours or mine or both? Oh
Man, what is my computer doing?
What the crap Running Windows 31% running Windows 31% what is the threat locker? Oh
Hold on. No. No Windows modules installer
Classic they both hit at the same time
So I'm sitting at like okay, it didn't stay at 30 is that about 20% CPU utilization
Okay, that's what actually it's actually chilling out a little bit now. Yeah. All right. All right. All right
I saw your game links video and it's awesome, but why is your on-screen voice different than your when voice?
Different Mike on when I'm probably mostly like chilling and
On that video, I'm like very presentary and also very different Mike's
Yeah, I'd love to Threat locker will live watch updates install and scan them as they come in that's actually kind of sick
I Make sense why you'd have a brutal spike, but it's kind of cool. Yeah, I'm ready whenever dude
I actually support this behavior. Yeah, it's kind of based
Okay, all right, are you gonna are you gonna signal us when you have your heart out?
My hard what is no
Ah, it's it's less it's less of a hard out and more of a beat traffic out got it
Oh, so the sooner the better. Okay, you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, do it
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Hello world and oh welcome to the way and show happy Friday everybody
We've got a great show lined up for you It is the first day of the second month of good news when show that's right
Oh the ratio of good news to bad news has to be I forget what we settled on
But it's pretty much mostly good news this week starting with something that is like a blast from my childhood past
The one and only Zs night original developer of Zs and ES is
back Z-SNES is back completely rewritten from scratch. I actually haven't tried it yet, but I intend to this weekend
I'm super excited to talk about that. Also. We've got to be talking about. Oh, no, I don't want to talk about that
Oh, this one's good Microsoft has committed in something that they are codenaming
K2 seemingly as an acknowledgement of the mountain they have to climb a
concerted effort to fix Windows very excited to talk about that. What else we got. Yeah, I took mine
You know, I tried baby Toyota did what people have thought about for a really long time
Which is they took a chair from a car and they put it on a stand with some wheels on it
And they called it a computer chair toy was limited edition thirty five hundred dollar crown gaming chair has heating cooling in USB-C
Seat seat Pelt Buckle Didn't even know that part. It's so expensive
Cheaper than a real Toyota That's true
Maybe not much more than a used one And I don't know we've got stuff. There's other stuff we sponsored a drift car
Really you went with that. I don't know sure
It's all better one right under it
The show is brought to you by messy Oh, dude, Squarespace and Ninja one along with our rap partner D brand and our laptop partner razor and our chair partner
Also, razor if you were a famous musician, what genre would you?
What's the most annoying genre? No, I think it's called noise
No, I think it's called noise that a thing Dan
Tell me something. What do you think I would that knows way more infinitely more about this than either of us
I'm going with sure. I would definitely be
Cringy cringy agree. Yeah, okay. I'd be cringy pop style music for like moms at this point
I think I think that would be that would be my best shot. I don't know Taylor Swift
If I could if I had half the talent that Taylor Swift has in one thigh then I could hope to be
You know more like Taylor Swift, but no, no, I'm afraid I might have thighs, but they're not talented
Let's jump right Noise music or simply noise is a subgenre of experimental music that is characterized by its use of
Unwanted noise as a primary musical element
So that's that's I think that's probably the most annoying one
It's just terrible often featuring little or no melody rhythm or harmony
That just sounds like someone was taking the piss just terrible and then it just
Accidentally a whole genre
No, no, we're not Everyone knows about noise. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, Microsoft has created an internal initiative called to K2 to fix
Windows 11 probably something for a while though
They have finally admitted to themselves that Windows 11 is a giant boatload of suck and
According to sources inside Microsoft is using the K2 initiative to fix the operating systems biggest pain points and win
Unintended back user trust the company is also reportedly
intentionally pivoting away from shipping new features as fast as possible and
Refocusing on quality, you know, it's kind of amazing
how every time a company is
Like having big big problems. The idea is hey
Why don't we stop intentionally sucking?
Actually, I wish that was often the solution. I went on a rant about this recently but not on camera. So here you go
Ready for it. Here comes the Tim Hortons when show rant
Oh, yeah, this made me so angry. I was talking to an American or something and they were basically like well
Yeah, yeah, right, you know, right like bud like Tim Hortons, right?
Y'all Canadians y'all like the Tim Hortons, right bud and I'm like triggered and I was basically like only triggered
okay Let me clarify because yes, I
Do like Tim Hortons, but there's a bit of a temporal issue with that statement because while it was once true
For me and every proud Canadian it is no longer true Tim Hortons is now owned by
Restaurant brands which seriously did they go to that to that LTT Store school of naming?
We're gonna have a company that owns restaurant. What should we call it? Let's call it fucking restaurant brands
That aside, okay restaurant brands is owned by like black rock and some
Brazilian conglomerate like a bunch of private equity. There is nothing
Canadian about Tim Hortons anymore anymore. Yeah, and after all of that happened Tim Hortons went at least here on the west coast
I've been told that on the east and the eastern side some of them do still bake the doughnuts fresh in store
Oh, really here on the west coast they went from baking the doughnuts fresh in store every day
Their slogan used to be always fresh always Tim Hortons that was their slogan now
They're still always Tim Hortons, but they're a gross messed up not fresh version of it
Like you you could get a brand new like the freshest donut in Tim Hortons
It'll taste like it's three days old these days. It's so it's so bad. It's it's absolutely
Disgusting how did I get on the subject of Tim Hortons? I literally to be honest
Oh, right when companies start sucking right? Okay, so this was a while back
This must have been like a year ago at this point But it like it made its way into my news feed that Tim Hortons was experiencing less than stellar growth and
Customer engagement and on a shareholder call. Okay on a shareholder call. They're literally acknowledging soft sales and they go
Yeah, so here's what our plan. We're gonna really like double down on the
Canadiana in our marketing and like, you know little kids skating on outdoor hockey rinks and maple leaves and beavers and all those
Very Canadian things in order to connect more to our Canadian cut. Here's an idea
Why don't you make fucking edible food? Yeah as a way to connect with your Canadian customers?
I used to when I would travel abroad
So when I'm at airports basically I had a routine where every single time I would go to Tim Hortons
So like the last thing I did in Canada was like one of the most Canadian things you could do
We just go to Tim Hortons. Go to Tim Hortons get some chili. I haven't done it. Yep. Get a sandwich get get a donut
They all suck now haven't done it in years. They even fucked up the chili. How do you fuck up chili?
It's literally just like meat and tomato paste and beans and then you just put it over heat
Okay, the chili is fine, but the problem is the bun sucks though
The chili has gotten worse as well. Has it really okay? I think so. I haven't had it in a while
It feels like it I might just be like dude annoyed the bun taste. I also use the bun as a spoon
Well, yeah, that's the whole point being way worse may have impacted my opinion of the chili
Okay, because I used to go and get Tim Hortons chili for my lunch like seriously
This is embarrassing, but like two to three times a week when I was working at NCIX. I'd get my chili
I'd get my bun. I'd get usually when they had them. I'd get the blueberry fritter
Oh the blueberry fritter the only problem with the blueberry fritter was how often they ended up undercooking them
Which looking back on it is maybe why they stopped baking them in store. The point is that doesn't matter
I would get my blueberry fritter I'd get my lemon iced tea and that was it the lunch of champions that lunch took
OCC as a product line from like
$3,000 a month to $100,000 a month. Okay, that's what Tim Hortons chili did in his prime
now I Wouldn't feed my dog that bun. I don't even have a dog
Anyway, so yeah, I wish that every company came up with the idea of how about making the product suck less
But restaurant brands couldn't do it
Anyway, I genuinely think Tim Hortons was so important to Canada's national identity that that sale should have been blocked
I actually Strongly agree it like actually was
Like our Prime Minister would talk about it globally like this was this was it was not a
This was not just some random like restaurant Yeah, like like going to Tim Hortons in the morning for breakfast is like
Was might as well be the canteen of Canada. Yeah, it's just yeah, and it's ruined now
Like I'm trying to think of like what would be any like I don't know of a single example
It would be like Ford Like not be it would be like Ford selling to like
Company, yeah, or to Geely or something like imagine as an American if you're watching this right now
If like fucking Ford did not I don't think I don't think Ford is as tied into the American ideas as Tim Hortons was
Depends, you know like like built for tough like dude
Is there a country on earth that loves the f-150 the way that America does like let's let's be real
No, but still let's be real here. I still think I
Still think it's more like what would be what would be like what would be like like at like a German equivalent
Like what would what would be so if so offensive
So like Guys guys hit me hit me with it. You know what? No, we can move on we can move on
Okay, so coming back to Windows on the performance side the start menu is being completely
Rewritten in Microsoft's own when UI 3 framework, which is supposed to make it 60% faster and more responsive
That is such a see that's such a baffling one to me is like when I open the start. What are you even doing?
Like there's there's there's there's things that I do on computers that just
Completely bewilder me how they can take as long as they do a perfect example of this
We were running a benchmark on set yesterday. We were
Performance testing. Oh, we ran SLI. We grabbed some 30 90 ti's
Okay, and we like ran like modern games that would still run. It's not really SLI
It's more of like the direct X 12 multi GPU thing But hey, we ran them and in the best case scenario it was actually pretty competitive with a 50 90 and like 3d mark
It's pretty pretty crazy. Anyway, the point is when we were running 3d mark. I was just like I was
Losing my mind because it's just always bothered me. You know how it does that thing where it's like
detecting system configuration
And it takes like a minute
To do what yeah, like how long does steam hardware survey take how long does it take to get a string of characters for
For the identifier of a piece of heart like we run we run at billions of operations per second on modern computing device
You've got to be kidding me or like when a Wi-Fi access point takes like forever to authenticate the password
It's like it's literally eight bits. Oh, I know it isn't okay. I know it isn't
But but it seems so trivial and in the same way the start menu is like what are you even actually doing like all of this
Has got to be pre-cached What are you doing? You're not doing
anything why why is there like a
Delay well, I don't know enough of the the difference between like what is it when you are or whatever?
And react native as far as my standing goes react native was calling when you I so they're the
The start menu right now is a react native app as far as my understanding goes
Yeah, and if they're just removing that layer and stepping down one and going to win UI
I don't know how this stack works. I read quickly that apparently at least sometimes it is calling when you I
So I'm assuming they're just stepping down a layer like maybe you gains a bunch of performance there
The fact that any part of Windows native UI is react native is wild to me
Oh, this is great. G freak has another good one
I hate it when Windows takes forever to tell me my passwords wrong. I accidentally press enter instead of you know enter anything like
Just immediately when you when you do it like six or seven times or whatever that could be a that can be a security feature
Where it's like delaying you being able to put in again for us and whatnot, but when it just like
Takes a while it's dude. It's like a handful of characters that either the hash matches or it doesn't for the crying out loud
Anyway, Microsoft is also reportedly removing ads from its start menu
Again like a bold move bold move. This is like restaurant sales falling. They come up with the bold idea of making food fresh
And then for gaming Microsoft is treating this is
Crazy, this is probably the best that's marketing for steam. Oh, yeah
That valve could have never afforded with all their billions and billions of dollars of I'm Gabe Newell
Rather than buying a yacht I will literally buy the company that makes the yachts all of the money that they have could never have purchased
Microsoft is treating valves steam OS as a performance benchmark
They want those gaming performance to be comparable to steam OS on identical hardware
Which they say is critical because the next Xbox is reportedly going to run Windows
11 oh Man, they were doing really good up until this is this have they hard confirmed that there was gonna be another Xbox
Yeah, project Scorpio. I think it's called like the new CEO
Healy healy helix helio Helio something helix helix. Thank you like next to chat
File Explorer is also getting major performance fixes with a third-party app called file pilot being used as the performance benchmark
They're shooting for this is like embarrassing. Who makes file pilot like no offense
No offense. You're probably no, it's it's I mean, it's the opposite. It's a huge
Brag if you're file pilot
That's amazing, but I don't even know who you are and the fact that Microsoft a multi-trillion dollar company is looking at this
Going yeah These guys are crushing us. We need to do we need to do better. Okay. Who are you?
Manifesto fast dude a system commands. This is actually sick. Hold on. We're getting is file pilot dope file pilot is one guy
dude Catholic Croatian husband father of five one
Extremely busy guy Donking on Windows. Look at that. That's awesome
Hey, what am I looking at here? Oh, this is file pilot. Yeah, he's selected a bunch of things and select a system
He can search. Yeah, I never even like thought about that. That's awesome
Finally Windows update is being reworked to with the goal of making Windows 11 reliable enough that you only need to restart once a month
You Dude file pilots cool, you might if we're doing that thing you should maybe include Microsoft Microsoft setting the bar
Okay, we want to we want to beat the performance of an operating system that the games literally don't even run natively on
We want to beat this one dude in
Explorer like the most critical thing in Windows that literally is like Windows 3.1
Okay, and we want to only have to restart your computer once a month. They put the bar
Here come on you guys
Also, the task bar is getting back. At least they put the bar somewhere moved and resized
K2 is reportedly not going to be a single release
But an ongoing initiative that started in the second half of 2025 with most changes rolling out through the end of 2026 and into
2027
Discussion question and for this I need you to put away the chat
close your eyes and Search deep inside your feelings search your feelings Luke. Okay
Channeling the force right? Do you think Windows can win back its users and you're searching your feelings because
You know you at least used to be a Windows user
Or is it too little too late search your feelings Luke?
I
Mean I think I think so and the reason why I think so is I think most of them haven't left yet
Yeah, I think most of them are very vocally angry as honestly
They should be and this is why you should be because we're seeing action come of the rage that the community has had
I think some people have left I've left
I'm not stopping using Linux when the Linux challenge is over. There's a spoiler. I'm going to continue using it
But it isn't it isn't completely too late the approach that I'm taking right now is
What is the most appropriate tool for me to use to have the least frustration?
the the most good time
Whatever you want to call it. Yep, and be able to operate and get stuff done without significant
Like inability to do the thing that I want to do. Yeah, and
right now that is almost always pushing me to
Linux either meant on my laptop cash use on my desktop. I
do Plan on ending with a dual boot setup on my desktop
But it's honestly completely unnecessary on my laptop and I will be continuing to run mint
If this bar shifts and it makes more sense for me to use Windows
I'd probably just use Windows But that is not currently true and like I'm trying to be honestly like pretty
Would I say about that objective? Yeah. Yeah, and like I I
Whipped I went over to my Windows drive
Because I still have my Windows drive in my desktop. It's just been sitting there untouched for like two months
I jumped over my Windows drive just to like Okay, like is it going to function? I haven't even booted into it for two months
I don't know it like did I corrupt it in that time? Maybe I thought I know where this is going
I've ran Windows update for a while got annoyed by a few things booted back into cashy and was like nice
It took dude it took and I know I haven't updated in a while. Okay. Okay. All right. It took
Forever to update it was so long
Super super long time I it felt so stupid that like the control panel seems like it wants to fight me
Like there's just there's just like I'm trying to do multiple things at once and it's like no
No, I'm just gonna like redirect. I guess you just have one of me open. It's like, what do you what are you talking about?
Search was just annoying again. Just like everything. It was just like
Felt gross so I went back All right, let's jump into Windows insiders actually, sorry
There's an interesting question from chat at at zm said have you tried macOS recently? If not, would you give it a try? I?
More open to trying other operating systems now. I recently learned mint and cashy. Do you want to borrow my neo?
I'm not using it right now. It's on my desk. I don't necessarily think so
But what I was gonna add is that I was using my mom's neo for a bit. Mm-hmm. It was totally fine. I
Do find macOS a little weird. I don't know if I would fully get used to it
There's still don't think it's for me really There's some stuff that I find just completely unnecessary and irritating about macOS the fact that you have to click on a window first to
Make it the focus window before you can interact with a thing
Huh, I see it both ways like on Windows sometimes you can like if a window like pops up and you're like about to click something
You can like accidentally interact with something that you didn't mean to and I can see how the macOS way
Kind of prevents that But also it's just it just creates a second click like anytime
I'm switching between things and I do not find that to be
Great, there's a couple. Yeah, there's a couple little things like that There's a couple things that feel a little clunky to me just because it I don't know. It's just not really my style
I do think however at this point in time
If there was a killer app on macOS, I wouldn't flinch using it
Yeah, which I think is not true as of a year ago
So like if I was an editor and it was like, oh boy, I'm gonna have to use final cut. It's like, okay
I mean if I have a Mac, yeah, sounds good more Windows news though
Windows insiders can now pause updates indefinitely in 35-day increments
Windows insiders can oh and there's no cap on renewals. This is a Windows in
Crying out loud. Okay, we need to do a thing where the the the title and the first line are not the same
Yeah, no, I completely agree. Yeah, also indefinitely for 35 days. Yeah
So so for as long as you want you can keep saying 35 days later
35 days later Okay, you can also restart or shut down without being forced into an update and restart
Previously you got five weeks max before Windows would force these updates
This is only available in the experimental channel, which replaced the old dev and canary channels
Microsoft's own description Features here may change get delayed or not ship at all
So the people testing this are the ones who opted into the most bleeding edge
Pre-release builds because they want updates as early as possible
Regular Windows users who've been getting forced restarted mid-meeting for a decade don't have this yet
And there's no timeline or confirmation for a general rollout. Now
Our discussion question is how did it take Microsoft over a decade to let people decide when their own computer updates and
My crazy hot take responses. I actually don't like this
Crazy people should probably update their computers. I when I did my first
macOS challenge. So the first time I switched to macOS. I think it was on the 5k iMac
Was the first time I like used nothing but I nothing but macOS for 30 days or 60 days or however long it was
The thing that was most life-changing about it for me in a positive way
Was the way that macOS handled updates at that time and it still does actually and that is that it would say
Hey, there's an update like a little you know little thing and then you'd be like
K and Then you would come in the next day in the morning and everything would be exactly where you left it and your computer would have
Installed all the updates and then opened everything back up right where you left it
Pausing updates is not the solution better handling of
Saving all of my work saving my state and then restoring my state and just doing the update when I'm not using my computer is
in my opinion a Way more elegant solution like I I get I get like I get agitated
When you know someone hands me their phone or their computer to use and I see that they're running like a year-old build of
Whatever Something I've really started to enjoy is I actually system update way more often on Linux than I did on Windows
But I really like that it just updates everything
Like that's awesome like I'll get discord updates. I'll get any other software that I have it'll just update my entire system all at once
I'm not individually updating programs Are you asking for the mic? I mean the Microsoft Store is the thing that exists and Windows can manage your updates for you
But I think most of us just make it not terrible though
Like I that but honestly I think that's really the solution like games for Windows would have been fine if it wasn't dog crap
Microsoft Store would be totally fine people like package managers on Linux. They just don't always
Suck complete, but and a lot of them Microsoft
So yeah, the first one that I had on on Kashi sucked and then I went with KDE and now I actually really like it
but And then the one that comes packages with mint is like fantastic to be honest
But it's it's very up and down but the Microsoft Store in my opinion is like the the problem
Yeah, and the fact that Windows update and the Microsoft Store are not integrated. Yeah, like crazy
Like if the best way to install stuff on Windows was Microsoft Store because Microsoft Store wasn't an annoying piece of crap and
Also, because that way it would just auto update along with Windows update
I just made everything really smooth and like why do I have to go digging for a driver update?
And I know that Microsoft has actually done a lot of really good work around like automatic driver management
but the fact that some of it is
Over here and some of it is like it'll never update unless I like go and get it and some of it is handled by like
Armory crate and some of it is in Windows update and like the fact that it's everywhere is
It's one of those things where The first thing that someone would would tell me from Microsoft or even you know a viewer would tell me is well, that's not
X's fault, you know, or that's because of
You know this and that might be true It can still be solved and and you know what those things are super super true
But you know what as as a user from a user perspective, I don't give a flying who's fault it is
Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what matters is that it's a terrible user experience and
Somebody needs to fix it like the way that
This is while you think of that This is what I'm talking about like all the time when I talk about how it's actually it's not even here right now
So I keep just trying it but my my laptop when I talk about how it's actually easier and like
Less annoyance and more productivity to use it. This is what I'm talking about
I don't have to go around and update all these individual apps I'm not like part way through working on something and then I need to open another app to do something and oh my god
Now that needs an update whatever. No, I just update once and it does everything and it's fine and it works
It's great. Everyone Freaks you out when you go to any arch based distro because they're like oh, it's rolling you're gonna update
It's gonna break everything When I go to update on Kashi, it checks arch news. Oh
No, it and it'll be like oh no this one might require manual intervention
You might not want to solve this right now and it's like okay, and I just close it and then I wait until it doesn't
Just do it that way like it's Harry G made a good point the driver nightmares because of third parties
They don't want to ship their drivers view Windows update because they can't bundle their bloatware with it
So then Microsoft should just straight up stop Wickel certifying anything that
Requires bloatware to be shipped with it like these are things that Microsoft flex your muscle man does like they're they flex their muscle to do
the wrong things Like they're flexing their muscle to put stupid candy crush in my stupid operating system
No flex your muscle to do things that enhance the user experience and make Windows more secure and
Faster and more powerful and more usable
All right, let's jump into
Okay, this is one of our bad news is for this week
Intel has reportedly canceled discreet gaming GPUs in the upcoming XE 3p arc
Celestial family according to Intel leaker Jake Hain
Intel canceled their discreet GPUs So these are the add-in cards for Celestial long ago. That means that the arc B580
So this is their battle mage generation will remain Intel's latest gaming GPU with no clear successor in sight
XE 3p will show up in data center and workstation products. Just not gaming cards
The next gen XE 4 druid architecture is expected late 2027
but whether it gets a gaming GPU in
Jake Hinn's words is up in the air Intel has not confirmed or denied any of this
Our discussion question here is if Intel quietly walks away from gaming GPUs. What happens to GPU pricing?
The answer is it goes up
However, however, the answer is nothing however, unfortunately, I
I really want to keep the faith. This is something that me to former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger
allowed to continue Intel's discreet GPU
Ambitions and I really hope that liputan
Does not kill. I know that there's a lot of like issues with the consumer cards that you know, like being low-margin and
Catering to a super noisy high maintenance customer base. Let's face it gamers are not the easiest customers to deal with
but I really do believe and
If they're the strongest argument that I can make for this is so does Jensen Huang who is the CEO of
From time to time the world's most valuable company I really do believe that the innovation on the gaming side
makes the enterprise and professional
sides better and stronger for all the work that they do and
Also gives you a volume market that you can dump silicon into to help fund all the development that you need to do like you
I don't think it makes sense to build a GPU business that doesn't have a consumer ARM
If you've all like you've already done so much of the work for alchemist and battle mage
To fix the backwards compatibility and to refine the architecture
Please please just give us a bigger desktop version of
You know what you're already shipping like amazing
Technology on on like laptop like please don't let it die and if you have to skip celestial
Fine don't skip druid. Don't skip druid
We need more options and gamers. It's like the Windows thing like gamers are
They're mad at Microsoft. They're mad at NVIDIA But you've got to give them a better option or they're just gonna begrudgingly stay there forever and like oh man
Like Intel continues to put in the work on the software side. You've got to give us hardware to run it on
Let's go yeah, you know yeah
Thank you for coming to my TED talk
Dan what are we supposed to be doing? You can keep doing topics or we can do the CW announcement. Oh, I feel like I should probably talk about the CW announcements
Do you want to do you want to fire up the site? Sure this week? It's a huge
Week for a creator warehouse. Is shipstorms still running?
Yes, looks like it I believe so so the shipstorm sale is
Still running so now is an amazing time to pick up
I mean basically anything at LTT Store
So we've got buy more save more on our blank t-shirts. We've got deals running on our scribe driver bolt action
Pen and pencil as well as our long sleeve t-shirts and then hold on hold on
Let me see if I can find the details and we have some super cool new items
So shipstorm a free shipping across Canada on orders over 150 and worldwide on over orders over 225
And then on the US site. Oh, no, I wish I had these details ready. I'm so sorry you guys
That that and then on the US site shipstorm is yeah
Free US wide shipping on orders over 150 and then Floatplane supporter plus
So if you're on Floatplane at the supporter plus tier, it actually goes down to just a hundred US dollars
So it's a great time to join Floatplane. Also. We have some new arrivals
So yeah, we'll put that Luke's laptop. We have some new prints for our party shirts
Yeah, these are flipping amazing want to give us want to give us a close-up of that
Are you serious right now laptop zoom this touchpad is a little weird. It's not the site. It's the touchpad cursors. Yeah
Some of them are our our glasses. How cute is that hands some of them are pointers, right? That's fun
Yeah, and then we've also got okay. This one's this one's sick
Let's are you okay? That works. It's there we go
Yeah, so this is like a very kind of 90s and like 90s screensaver and computing and also
I don't know work from home. It's got a whole bunch of different like vibes like work from the beach
Kind of yeah, like the palm trees and stuff just like
Don't mind me here chilling on my like CRT laptop or whatever
And then this one's meant to just be like a very wearable
Lollipop Lollipop print totally not inspired by anything else that looks like that. It's lollipops. It's
It's it's it's candies. It's umbrellas. It definitely is not a beach ball
100% not a beach ball. We've also got the spinning wheel of death pin set. Okay. Well now we've
Really gotten rid of any plausible deniability that we could have had around where that design inspiration came from
So here's our pin set that is yeah, definitely not a beach ball except for the one that definitely is a beach ball
So we've got candy umbrella as well as a lollipop in there
What else do we got? Yo, yeah, so you can get yours at LMG GG slash party shirt and LMG GG slash
wheel of death If you're looking for something that's a little bit more low-key, we've also got two new polo colors plus a restock on
Black so soft cotton blend with a bit of stretch so it's comfortable without feeling sloppy clean simple look that works
Whether you dress it up or keep it casual These are just easy to put on pieces that go with pretty much anything and that you can wear it pretty much
Anywhere and you can shop at LMG GG slash polos
We also do this kind of fun thing where we have like a little kind of splash of accent color down there
There you go polo shirts dress blues brilliant white and black
Look a bunch of happier pluff looks come on Reese would kill you to spot
Love that guy. We we did an upgrade for him yesterday
We're bringing back setup doctor and his setup
Needed some doctoring. He streams he games. He does like unboxings of fancy shoes
He had so many shoes So we helped a little bit with the organization of that. We got him like a new desk set up and he tufts
That's like carpet tufting and so we got like a like a much more ergonomic space efficient setup in his little room
He does all those things. So that was a that was a fun shoot guys. Don't miss that one lots of good vibes
Also, okay. Yeah, that's pretty much it. So yeah now's a great time to get an order in also
I think that a lot of people probably missed it, but
Hold on where are they? Yeah cables so we did have a small restock hit our us distribution hub today for true spec cables
Okay, yeah, many of the sizes are already out of stock again
The only way that you're gonna have a shot of getting these guys is to make sure
That you get the notify me because when they hit
they're gone so There's nothing I can do about that. It's in priority sequence. You guys got a you got to get in there
So yeah, we had an order hit today and then you can actually you can actually see in the dashboard where it hits
Here check this out. This is hilarious Uh
Gee Luke Can you tell me where the cable restock was?
Yeah, I mean, maybe we're there. Maybe we're the snake ate the deer. Yeah
Yeah, so yeah
So make sure you do that All right, two comms. Oh, right. So if you're placing an order now
It's a perfect time because we have what we call check out messages
We when we stream, we don't want you guys to just throw money at us for nothing. We want to work for it
That's right me Luke and Dan. We all want to work for it. So
Instead of having people just send like twitch bits or super chats or whatever
We created what are called check out messages or comms
All you got to do to send one is head on over to lttstore.com add something like our new flex pants to your cart and
Go to the checkout There it is you can choose to have it displayed as a checkout message
You can make your name anonymous or you can show your name You can send a little message and then you can choose your color and whether or not you want to opt into email
Communication about your message. This will help us follow things up with you if you want
All right, then you go ahead and place your order and it will go to producer Dan
I already waved. I don't know what to do now You'll have to come up with something with the other hand. Nice
It looks weird. I'm not used to doing that. It hurts Anyway, it'll go to producer Dan who will reply to your checkout message or will pop it up down here or up there
Or who will curate it for me and Luke and I'm often Dan to respond to Dan
Do you want to do a couple for us? Yeah, sure. Hey, Daniel. I'm currently visiting Vancouver with my wife and kids
I had no idea. It was so beautiful. Capilino Park is awesome
Yeah, do any of you guys go hiking or anything like that? Not as much as I should
Literally we were like flying over
the the like outer Vancouver region and
I was like Luke did you have any idea that there were this many hiking trails in this area a lot
But it looked like a wherever we particularly were at the time I think it was over like Chilliwack or whatever. That's very likely. Yeah, it looks like a video game map
It was like there was just so many trails
And they weren't they didn't seem to be like dried riverbeds like they seemed to be
Hiking trails. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the entire area was just littered with them and I was like
How have I never been on any of these some of them are pretty great. Absolutely ridiculous. Sheen is pretty legendary
Um, so yeah, we should have you ever done the grind. No, I've always gone the other way
Gone the other way. Yeah What's the other way? Isn't the grind north van? Yeah. Yeah, I've always gone like oh, oh, I thought you might you've always like gone down it
I take that. Yeah, I take that going to look up
You're literally not even allowed like it's that'd be that'd also be the one way that would be really bad for my knees
Yeah Okay, well if you ever want to do the grind I'll do the grind it's called the gross grind
It's on gross mountain. You can like hike up the mountain. It's yeah, it's pretty savage
Yeah, wait till your knees. It's more of like a workout. Yeah, what you might expect from a traditional hike. This is fair
It's just like an incredible amount of stairs Which is awesome. There's people that do it like literally every day
Like it's it's great. It's just it's a quite a bit of a different experience from what I've heard
my brother Shot up there recently I
Wanda DLL first off San update when I'm a storage and backup engineer and that is my daily bread and butter
Second did you consider any centralized backup solution? Also? Why no why so few tall sure now?
I can see why you curated this one Dan It's a really good question. We are Linus. We are expanding slowly our selection of tall
merchandise We just we have to be we have to go slow and steady sure
This may be a surprise to you and all of you, but physical goods are an extremely
cash-flow sensitive business They every new product requires a brand new upfront investment that may or may not pay off
And we just have to be careful. We have to go slow. We have to be careful. We don't we're not taking private equity
We don't have outside investors. So every time we launch a new product. That's the product team
Working with me and working with our other leadership and going okay. Here's all the chips. These are our chips here
We are betting them Let's hope it pays off
It doesn't always we've got to be careful. It's it really is that simple and also complicated
I think I think the new the new war is gonna have to be over pants
Tall pants. I know when when we're not even necessarily tall pants just
When you guys launch the flex pants, I was really surprised the inseam length was 29 and then on on on an internet forum
Somebody posted like wow LTT Store really makes me feel really tall
And it was in relation to those pants cuz they're like wait inseam 29 is is all the yeah
Yeah Pants are tough man. There's yeah, you have to have all the waist sizes
Ideally you would have all the inseam sizes. We've done as much as two inseam sizes for a pair of pants
I believe the cargo pants we have two inseams for yeah, and it literally double like you got it
You got to think about it in terms of skew count you literally double your skew count
And if we still had everything consolidated at a single distribution center, that would be a little bit easier
But every additional layer of complexity you add it's a multiplier. Yeah, it's not additive. It's
multiplicative so was that like I'm just genuinely curious you've sold pants before so was that like did we have was most of our orders 29 or like
How did we land on 29? We landed on that as sort of a like a best middle ground for most people really. Yeah
Okay, yep, and What we would have probably done if we had another skew is we would have gone longer. Yeah
But that was one of those ones where the tech pants are 30 and 32
Hey, people also got a kick out of you guys calling tall 32
There's degrees of tall I'm a 32
So yeah, yeah, it's tall dance pretty tall. What do we call it? Stumpy legs Jonathan and Conrad and Lucas and those guys
I mean Lucas towers. Yeah, like
Okay, San update I am still not convinced that San is the right solution for us. I've
Every time I've asked someone who's very pro storage area network
Why we should have one? They have not given me a satisfactory answer
Naz seems like the way to go for us. I we don't have the same kind of like
Resiliency and like like cross org access complications that
That you might have if you're like I I don't know flipping like multinational or if you're or if you're like, you know
You're running a data center that has you know CPU compute over here and GPU compute over here
So you need to have like a storage network that they all access like we don't have any of those use cases
We just have individual users
accessing file level resources
That are centrally stored. Can someone explain to me why we need San?
Like Floatplane has San. Yeah Floatplane does but
Do we have no safe right? Yeah. Do we have no safe locally? I don't think so. I don't think there was a reason to
It was a pitch at one point. Yeah, and then we didn't go there
It's all of redundancy. Yeah, but we don't need that much redundancy
We have the one share that is like the current projects
actually redundant and replicated places share and then everything else we made a conscious decision and it's been it, you know, it
It's it's funny for me seeing people sort of go. Oh, remember that time they lost date. Yes. Yes. Yes
We we've Other than okay when we lost Wanik that was bad
But the time that our vault had some data loss We had made a conscious decision that this was non essential
Archived data and that if we lost it we had decided that it was not worth the additional expense of replicating that storage
And that's especially true today man storage has gotten so expensive
And so we've made the decision That we only really need the projects we're working on and every other like random snippet of footage if we lost it
We lost it. It doesn't really matter and so
Going for something more complicated More expensive that requires more administration
I just I don't
Um, I don't see the point
Or are you talking are you literally talking to aj and chat right now and jonathan they're both in here
We do have seph on prem It's just in the lab and it's just an mvp right now
Sure, and there's only a few things kind of running into it But the thing is when you take aj and jonathan
And you throw them in the pool of it people that do stuff for LMG
They come from seph and kubernetes land. Yep. So like it
Why not it becomes I think a lot more reasonable
It's it's a right tool for the right job for the right person type of situation
We have aj and jonathan. We might as well do this thing. It doesn't really mean that it's a recommendation for everybody
um Like tcl 987 says I would think you'd want san for running vm's so that a storage node going down doesn't take down the vm's too
In terms of like like critical on the media group side
And the creator warehouse side which make up the majority of our revenue
I can think of like a couple of vm's we run
Like sure on the Floatplane side Yeah, yeah, sure you're a hundred percent right like you want that redundancy built into that storage network that everything else is using but yeah
for video editing
We don't we don't have nodes of storage
We just have a storage server that every periodically
Backs up to another one
So if Floatplane was on prem you need it Floatplane has it anyways. Yeah, I just I just said that
Yeah, yeah um, oh faint lock it asks can you explain what san is
so Basically the idea is that instead of having your storage
In each machine right like this and this and then like allocating
You know like instead of putting like a drive into your computer and going okay here virtual machine
This is like your drive san is an entire
An entire separate network of machines whose entire job is to provide storage
For all the other machines on the network big pools. Yeah, so whether whether their job is to
run vm's or whether their job is to
Serve media or whether their job is for the editors to access it
All of these compute resources will just instead of having local storage
Over the network. They will access this this storage network
Which is entirely separate boxes that maybe don't need a ton of compute
But do need like a but ton of storage and then this this storage network is going to be built with redundancies and and
safeties that make it so that if one of these machines goes down
All the other machines that are doing all of your web serving and all of your
Your compute or all of your research or whatever it is They're doing are still able to access their storage as if nothing happened
So it's a way of of distributing your storage to make it so that a failure will
Not impact your operation at all rather than taking down one of your nodes
But we have so few nodes outside of the Floatplane side
And so little critical critical infrastructure that I just I just not convinced that it is relevant for us
um Yeah, torpedo bench describes it as kind of like raid but at a much bigger scale and and that's kind of a way of
Thinking about it instead of your one machine having multiple drives one of which could fail
all of your machines Have like a bunch of machines that have a bunch of drives in them and an entire machine could fail
And then they'd be able to still access it It's that's it's kind of a it's kind of a neat way of thinking about it
And then nas is more like
Like it's like a storage area network that only that's not really a network
It's just it's just a a standalone resource that all of those things can access
Over the network that might have some redundancy in the form of in the form of raid for instance
But it doesn't have like multi machine level redundancy. That's about the kind of simplest way that I can
Summarize it
Okay, yeah time to do more topics
Uh, no Legendary z-snash nintendo emulator
Has been rewritten from scratch with GPU acceleration the original developers of z-snash or zsnes or zsnes
Whatever you want to call it zsnite and demo
Are back together for the first time in nearly two decades with super
zsnes a complete ground-up rewrite of the legendary snes emulator that dates back to the dos era
And the first nintendo super nintendo emulator that I ever used I have personally played through
Final fantasy six on this emulator chrono trigger on this emulator like man
I have very fond memories of using this
oftentimes uncooperative but Quite quite treasured piece of software. It was what yeah, it was what everybody used for a long time
The last major release was almost 20 years ago though
So big change here is a GPU powered ppu core that enables high res mode seven
widescreen support in support of games
Overclocking for games that were notorious for slowdown
uncompressed audio and per game visual enhancements that the devs are calling
Super enhancement engine. It also keeps the classic falling snow ui
It's available now on Windows mac Linux and Android with iOS coming soon
And the devs made a point of listing no vibe coding as an official feature
Everything was handwritten the classic way
Now with that said I have heard that it's a little buggy
It is an early build special chips like chips like the super effects are not supported yet
But in a world where vibe coding is everywhere
Is no vibe coding a selling point for this for you? Would you want to try it? I want to try it. I'm spoiler. I want to try it
Uh I don't know if like
No vibe coding is particularly a selling point, but I'm gonna try anyways. I want to I want to I want to hear you talk about that
If stuff is Properly like I I know people that use vibe coding stuff
In a way that I would consider properly and I know people that use vibe coding in a way that I would
Hyper aggressively not consider properly
um, if these two guys
Said that they Used ai-assisted tools
I don't think I'd be too concerned about it interesting so
to you it's more about Having who's wielding the tool having the skills and having the street cred
to take shortcuts and
no To like review it and make sure that bad stuff doesn't get through still
um Because it also is what also depends like did they say no, okay, so no vibe coding specifically
so okay, maybe yeah, maybe that is particularly a good thing but like
ai-assisted so here's the quote the quote no vibe coding classic development style
But that's pretty ambiguous. Yeah, what's classic well to them 20 years ago might be just no assistance
I don't think it's that they haven't been doing work. They just haven't been working on z-ness. No. Yeah, that's fair
um
Yeah, peter said this and I I mean I've said this on wancho like a billion times and I just still agree with it
The buck stops with the one who commits the code
100 it goes back to that ibm thing that I've also shown on wancho before
um Quote a computer cannot be held responsible
Um, let's find the slide here
A computer cannot be held accountable Therefore a computer must never make a management decision and a management decision is to commit code. So like uh
From the vibe that I get from this team these two people
um, yeah, I mean I wouldn't particularly be too
concerned about it But there there will be people that will vibe code something
And they'll tell me that excitedly and I know who it is and I know how much work and development they've done and I'll be like
Oh boy I'm excited to see how many different ways this breaks. Um
I wonder how many security keys are like hard coded and publicly readable
Like things like that. I have to call me out like that
No, no, that never happened. Oh, no, no Um security key for your google sheet
Yeah Speaking of the Linus vibe coding challenge the project is officially dead. Unfortunately. Yeah in the form of a video
But I'm still trying to uh, I'm still trying to turn it into at least if it can be
If it can be cobbled together relatively easily a Floatplane video or something
So the problem is not that I was not able to vibe code a solution
I was and it's actually been In production since I vibe coded it, which is like six months ago now or something
Which is the problem By the time we would be releasing this video
Everything that I did is so far removed from the current state of AI and vibe coding
That it just doesn't make any sense to talk about it the entire thing
Like yeah, which I could probably do in fact
I could probably do way faster with better tools and now that I've done it
But the entire premise of the video for me was as someone who's never done this
What does that look like and We would no longer be answering that question
The other thing that it wasn't killed because of is our real developer our real developer was able to create a solution
But because of scheduling and stuff and people being busy, I still haven't seen it
So what I was hoping that we could still do is
have um Like have me sit down and like have it shown to me and then
Like yeah, Dan could just kind of walk me through it Yeah, and then we just do that on camera sure and then we can do that as and then I could do like a short little summary
He already walked me through it on camera. Okay, perfect
And then we and then we can just throw that up on flow plane or something like that. Yeah. Um, I know another
Sorry, are you done? No, I just and then I probably I probably need a little bit more of his time though
Because I need it to work for mixed doubles and singles as well Also, ultimately, I mean you you you pay his jack. So well, I know but
But then why did we have to do this whole vibe coding? So the vibe coding challenge started because I needed some development resources for something that didn't really matter
Um, but then then it mattered because it was a video, but then now it's not a video
I feel like it would have been better for us to just say hey, can I have some of Dan Siegel's time?
It's it's easier now and more appropriate now. I think so if you want so this time it makes sense
Uh, I wanted to say one more thing on the super zed schnitz thing. Um
Um I think there's also a like
Can I classify this as a cry wolf problem? I don't know. I watched a short clip last night before completely tearing down my entire computer setup
um of Shroud going back to counter strike
Because I was interested because what I've heard is that counter strike is covered in cheaters
And the title didn't say anything about cheaters. It just said shroud goes back to counter strike in the first time years or whatever
So I watched it in the first two games. He was in there was two blatant cheaters
Um, and it's it's it's this thing where like modern, especially FPS games, but modern
every game Uh, basically don't kid yourself if people like to cheat and like rocket league and mmo's and everything you can imagine
Um with with cheaters freaking everywhere
Something that has ruined
Something that has ruined It's a weird sentence whatever um is
defeat Because it it often feels like there's a built-in excuse for everything. Yes
So if you don't think that people are cheating or if it's they're probably not then it's like, oh, man
That guy's really good. I want to watch this replay and try to learn from them, right?
But if it's like, I don't know there's usually at least one cheater per lobby
Then it's like that guy's just cheating screw that guy and it like it it loses a lot of the like
The interesting nature of losing if that makes yeah, how do you how do you how do you get motivation from loss?
if The how do you get like the competition was never fair. How do you get like a rival?
Yeah, like you know back back when there was dedicated servers and you jump on a server and there was always that
Freaking guy who just yeah, who'd get you like every time Yeah, and then and then you you train and you get better and you beat that guy and then it feels good
Like that that type of stuff is just kind of gone from cheating
And I think something that they're dodging here to bring it back to super SNES super zed SNES
um Is there saying no vibe coding? So if it comes out and it has a bug
You don't get to go. Ah, it's probably just
Modern ai junk spaghetti code, right? They're saying no
No, if there's a bug it's because we did that part. I think we haven't fixed that yet that part
I think is kind of cool. I think that's super cool. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, want to pick a topic sure
Uh, what do we got here? Sony finally responds to playstation drm panic says only a one-time license check is needed
No 30 day requirement This was confusing if you weren't on top of this news because you're a pc person
There was a mysterious 30 day license timer showing up on playstation digital games purchased after march 2026's firmware update
Some people were freaking out. What is this 30 day thing modders on twitter spotted at first but things spiraled when playstation's own
ai support chatbots told users that they'd lose access every 30 days
Unless they were online, which is just not true to be clear. That's just what the chatbot said
With nobody sure what was real players started just testing stuff trying to see what was going on
YouTuber spawn wave pulled his ps5 cmos battery to simulate a timer expiring and watched his brand new digital purchases just
Refused to load with a license error Nice what actually happens if you miss the window
Is that the game stops working until you connect back to the internet? It doesn't delete it or get revoked permanently or anything like that once you're back online access is restored
And I believe once it does that actual check in you do get a permanent token
Sony says that if you launch the game once while connected a one-time check kicks in and the 30 day timer won't apply at all
Ever again, it's fine. Okay, but oh
Testing from reset era user and shrew found it's not quite that simple
There appears to be around a 15 day delay before the console actually converts your temporary license into a permanent one
A permanent offline one Until that conversion happens going offline for 30 days will lock you out that 15 day window lines up
Suspiciously close to playstation's 14 day refund period suggesting
That this might have been an anti fraud measure because apparently some people were buying games
Going offline having their offline version refunding the game
Right Yeah, uh, sony hasn't confirmed that part, but apparently that has been happening. So
Yeah, makes sense Sony has now officially responded to game spot saying a one-time check is required to confirm the game's license after which no further check
Is required the drm is real, but it's not the always online nightmare that people feared that said
Sony rolled this out silently and let the panic build for a freaking week before saying a single thing
Ah as a company That's kind of annoying that sometimes
Is Has things
Fester in the community I understand it both ways
I can understand why it seems crazy that sony didn't say anything for a week
And then I can equally understand All the like mechanisms and checks that external comms need to go through
Especially in the midst of a crisis and why it can take a while
I I mean, I'm gonna firmly stand on both sides
Going going wide yes
Strong firm stands
I don't love this. I understand they're whole trying to dodge the fraud thing
Honestly, it seems better than steam and we we hold steam up on this like this pillar
This this pedestal better. How's it better than steam steam checks like all the time
Yeah, but if you go offline, yeah, then it works, which is fine single player games
Yeah, not always they'll they'll make you check once in a while
Oh, yeah, I guess I've never been offline long enough to notice as someone who uh, actually it seems like it's
Been a little better lately, but there was definitely a period where they had cracked down on it quite a bit
And we would really run into it like on set. Can you just run the executables out of the folder?
No, no, because it'll still launch steam and it'll still do a DRM check
So so we'd run into this on set when we only had like one copy of a game
And we'd try to like pull the Ethernet cord and then launch it on the next computer And then pull the Ethernet cord and then launch it on the next one and pull the Ethernet cord
So obviously this is like not a You know classic use case
But I have definitely run up against this
Um, I I haven't ran into I haven't done this often
But I have not ran into it opening steam when you try to just run the executable for the game
I've had it just launched the game Okay, people in chat are saying they definitely do does it depend on the game because from my understanding
I definitely see it depending on it's not like gog where part of the deal is that there's no online DRM
Like with steam there there's online DRM. It's like a feature not a bug
I bet you it depends on you. It depends on whether the game uses steamworks, which is steams DRM
That also makes sense Uh cus cus captain says can you keep your steam deck in offline mode for just a limited amount of time?
Yeah, from my understanding it'll eventually need to phone home But I correct me if I'm wrong. Like I said, this is something that I ran into more before
And lately when we've been doing the Ethernet unplug thing now that I'm thinking about it. It's been a little more successful
um tcl 987 says steamworks and steam DRM are independent
Blah blah blah a lot of games use steam library stuff for networking voice chat, etc
Yeah, so it's probably gonna be dependent on the game somewhat
um Man one thing that I find really annoying as somebody who has to set up a system
For travel probably more often than most people because when I'm traveling is often when I'll have time to like oh, yeah
I'm gonna try out the steam controller So I need like to load a bunch of games onto a system before I go
I really really wish there was a way to with one button like do the pre-launch crap
For every game on my system because if I'm like
If I have no internet or I'm or I'm somewhere remote with very slow internet or whatever like okay like installing stuff
Not shaders you mean no like get the dot net whatever get the redistributable whatever install all dependencies
Do your DRM check? Yeah, like to Install all dependencies because like it's it's it's become it's become more and more of an annoyance over time
How many steam games have other launchers or have random dependencies?
Especially on Linux, uh, which I've been using more lately
Where they'll have to grab like proton crap ahead of time
So if I so if installing the game Installed the game
So that I just click go and it goes I would actually I would love that
So if valve is taking suggestions right now, uh, that's something that I'd love to see steam
Level up on ever so slightly when I install a game do all of it
Assume that my intention when I install a game is to play the game
Um, not just not just enjoy it being in my ready to play filter
Um
Okay, uh Ignacy
Says as a game dev requiring steam is a toggle in the stk API
Yeah, okay game either confirm steam is open and connected on steamworks initialization or it doesn't so that explains why
So we've just tried to open different games. We both would have had completely different experiences because both are both are true
That makes sense. Um It's not like a thing I do all the time. So I wasn't super confident
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Linus we have a guest We have a guest
For the Floatplane announcements for the Floatplane. You just don't trust us to do it, right? Yeah
Okay, well come on on
Do the announcements first what what what's happening right now
You want us to do the read Dan point at him show how he's being weird
Wait, what wait? What? Yeah, he's like holding a monitor. Look at that guy. What's up with that? Look at that guy
I don't understand what's happening right now. What's he doing if you read the document? You'll know he's up to something
All right. I'm gonna read the document. I'm reading the document
You know what the l in Linus stands for?
Oh, there's a lot of Floatplane exclusives about me this week
In the first video sammy gave me such a wonderful welcome back gift to welcome me back to the office
He will be fired for this injunction. Okay, so first of all sammy. That's not really what injunction means. Is it not? No
Um, it's about vibe and second of all you're not fired allegedly
Um, okay Anyway, this is the video. Uh, people really loved this video on Floatplane
I came back to work and my entire office had been gift wrapped
Um To this day, this is still how I feel about it
Anywho Um, and if pc building is more your style
I went head to head against elijah jordan and pankrats to see who can build a pc the fastest
At Linus media group. Wow. Did any of you wear a horse head? Dude, you filmed that
Ages ago. That video is just coming out. It should forever to we should do
Yeah, we should do a video on who's the fastest to edit a video at Linus media group because I think
I think you would not be in good shape for hours and eight povs. I had to edit
And then I got I because you understand what kind of videos you editing with the povs sick
You disgust me get your mind out of the gutter
Anyway, so that exclusive went up very recently. Oh, yeah, you guys are you guys are loving this one too
Okay, I'm not going to scroll down to the comments because
I feel like it's going to be somewhat debatable who won
So it's probably going to come down to commenters to decide who uh, who did it best
What else is going on on Floatplane? To wrap it up. We've uploaded the full interview with the creator of popos carl rachel
That's pretty cool tech quicky has been doing a ton of interviews with interesting people lately
So if you want to hear more from our special guests, we'll be uploading them to Floatplane very cool
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Sammy has a special show and tell for us. What do you want sammy?
Oh, you're telling me I can't I can't get mad at you
Yeah, you can stand anywhere you want touch the foils So, you know, uh, we you don't have a mic here though. How did we?
No, this this was last minute. I forgot you're not here next to me. That's why okay
So, you know, you know the the the chair you bought with uh, david, um, oh you mean the the gun chair, uh, yeah, hold on
Yes, I'll bring I'll bring this up to people commission machine gun chair
Yes, that one. So I so here this was uh, this was yesterday's video
Uh, it has actually one of my favorite intros that we've done in quite a while
Okay, that that wasn't
What are you watching? What are you? There we go. No, no, we're good. We're good
But this is a gaming chair Um, so you can yeah, so we had
I love david crawling so But uh, anyway solid effort david. I'm not gonna take too much time today
Okay, so I promised I would daily drive that thing for 30 days. I did not approve that
The ergonomics are like not safe in my opinion. Is this a good monitor you think?
Yeah
Yes, you like that monitor. Um, so uh, the the lumbar I agree is bad. So I was trying to adjust it
Yeah, did you know that thing has no limiters?
Sammy You can see my hand here when I visually tried to physically try to stop it
It did not stop. There's no limiter on that chair. Yes, I know I didn't know that
So then it broke
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I felt so bad. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
Uh, yeah, but I record for full plane Uh, so you'll see my reaction on there where you see my my the horror in my face as I try to
Save this monitor. Oh, it's it's mangled. That's deep. I didn't actually realize like you know like the uh, the keyboard like
Play it went through it. Did it occur to you to stop it not with your hand like by pressing the button
So the button wasn't responsive. It wasn't oh the no the one remote doesn't like work
Yeah, I didn't you have to use the other Did you think to watch the video before I watched like I watched mostly through I'm like, I know enough and then
I didn't know I didn't know this you are the problem. I know I'm the problem
Okay, Linus would have just read the comments. I'm sorry Yeah, and through reading the comments, I would have known all the critical information that he didn't have
You I will die on this hill You are better off reading all the comments on a video than like watching the first 30 of it
I watched 50 I You know, I still maintain you're better off reading the comments on a video than watching only half of it
Well, I I am sorry But I had my reaction on on full plane next week
So we had some content. Okay. All right. You know that crazy expensive computer you built for him
I feel like you have to take the value of this monitor out of that computer somehow
They took away my GPU already. Oh really? I I stood up for you. I know you did. I appreciate it
You saw me stand up for you. I said they shouldn't take it away. You know why they took it your department
Oh, get on that beak with you. Get on. Let's get Linus get owned. Yeah, I don't think the two of us could take him
With this broken monitor I just might it's very durable. All right. Thank you sammy. It's very very sorry. I'm very sorry. I feel so bad
I'm sorry. Oh man. That's a really nice monitor. I know. I'm sorry. What's the what's the model? That's not the 4k one
Is it like
Sorry, it wasn't intentional. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I feel so bad. What monitor is it?
Uh, it's a it's an alien wear or something You know that you're the one holding it who can see the model number, right? That's
Yeah, it's always on there. It's gonna drop it see
I mean, that's fine at this point sammy's one of those guys that we make a video with him and then half the comments are like
Why does this guy even work there? You're getting glass on the ground. I promise he's he's really good at other things
Where's the model? He is. Oh alien wear 2725 q
October 2025 Here, I think that's the 1440. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry
But how much does it cost? It's it's 500 us, right?
Oh
That's the first one I saw this is a 240 hertz 4k. Yeah, this is like top of the line
Cudio led like one of the best monitors on the market. Wow
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I honestly had no idea when you showed me. I thought it was just like some random junk monitor
I had no idea. I had no no we got like really nice monitors and we had that like sick alien wear
That like sick alien wear gaming pc on it. It was like
That was like peak gaming other than the lumbar support in the headrest
But are you glad i'm okay? I didn't get hurt
Actually, yes, that would have been worse. Did you get blood on the monitor?
You got my hand on it. See see this this this this hand sign shows war
I went or it shows that you were like banging in the depths of a steamship. Yeah, that's another possibility
That's not the kind of banging I meant but sure. Yeah, what do you mean?
He's never seen titanic. This is the problem with the kids today. I watched like no, I'm sorry. Anyways, I don't think too much time
All right, thanks sammy. Sorry. Hasn't seen tinnit. Sorry tinnit. Hasn't seen pov
Who is this guy? That's that's more expensive than any monitor I've ever owned
It's a random random fun fact that might be worth more than every multi monitor setup you've ever owned
1300 cat Probably and I run three pretty good monitors. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it is actually I think so that's uh
Wow, I like I I honestly had no idea he showed me in the lab
And I was like, okay I mean losing a monitor like sucks because we just always need monitors
But I'm sure it's just like some random generic monitor. I had no idea it was an alien wear
I had no idea it was high end at all
No, it's the highest of end It's it's like full downward dog high end
It's downward dog the one where your butt's in the air
I sounds like it. Yeah Yes
I was thinking child It doesn't get much more high end than that
Um, all right. Well subscribe to Floatplane so sammy can
Continue to do the things he does. No, he does really good stuff too. I promise
dude, that's All right, let's pick an let's move on let's pick another topic. Hey really cool LTT Labs article this week
Yeah, let's talk about that instead. We know it can be daunting to take your first steps into the world of Linux
We know this because we've been doing it recently But LTT Labs is here for you this article
From nick tested by shawn and steven is we tried popular Linux gaming distros
It's I have not read this one yet because it just went up, but I am very excited to this went up like two days ago
So we can maybe summarize for us. We had some well. Yeah, it's I mean we're kind of benchmarking
A bunch of gaming distros and there's there's tests if you go down
Um, there's there's standard, you know Labs charts with different games and how the different distros did and as you might expect
They're pretty similar Because it kind of goes that way every time
But we still looked at stuff cash. You did pretty good. Let's go cashy
Um, hey, look at that. Look at that. I managed to pick the one
The one that's bad Specifically for doom the dark ages the other games it was uh, if we if we do another Linux iSwitch challenge in the future
You should just have to use whatever
No, that's less interesting. No, I I like I
I think it's really important to have the conversation around what information a normie is likely to be exposed to
That to me is a whether I end up making the right choice for the wrong choice
is is actually a fundamentally important part of the Linux challenge and
I intentionally will not just ask people
I could have we even said this in the first episode. I could literally call Linus torvolds
Yeah, literally have his digits and ask him what distro to use but i'm not doing that
The one the only thing that really surprised me and this would have led you to a distro that I didn't even recommend
But yeah, I had a gut feeling that you were going to go with
What he said he used. Oh, yeah. Yeah in the video you guys did together. That's what I thought you were gonna do
No, no So my part of my method is that I am I'm looking at the entire switching experience
And part of the switching experience is going out there and fact finding. Yeah, and so, you know when the community kind of comes
and goes like He did the fact finding
Wrong because He found the wrong conclusion
What we need to do is we need to look at okay. What are all of these resources and why are they recommending this thing if quote-unquote?
Everyone knows that it's like not good And honestly, we've already seen some positive change
Every time yeah already. Yeah, and so it's one of those things where maybe I just accept my role
as the bearer of bad news And the reality check for people who are so knowledgeable that they don't realize what they don't
What they know, I guess is probably the best way that I could describe it It's like a curse of knowledge thing to a lot of Linux community members
They don't realize how easy it is to make the wrong choice
Because to them it's so obvious They have they know the right people to ask they know the right resources to look at
But to someone who to whom it's not obvious who's coming into it the for the first time
It's very easy to end up on a different path and and
Honestly, I do find this pretty interesting because I I didn't initially use chat
I've used chat gpd to try to figure out things that are going on with my system
But I didn't use it to pick my distro at all But you did and it spat out popos and then I did to see if mine would as well and I don't it was one of the options
I don't remember if it was number one, but it was one of the I don't think it was number one But it was there. I thought number one was cashew for you. I don't remember
I thought it was like open sushi or something
I'm sorry. I don't remember it was a while ago. Yeah, but this time I just did this sitting here right now not logged in so it's not tailored on me and best overall experience popos
So like we can say we can say whatever we want, but a ton of people
We'll use this. Yes. Yeah, and people can be like upset about that
Right. You can be upset about that. You can think they shouldn't use it
But and I said this I said this in episode one
If I am trying to be representative of joe gamer
Who's doing my own research today? And I didn't ask a chat bot. I'd be doing a complete disservice
That would be a completely unrealistic
Assumption that they would not use a chat bot because so many people are using them
And we know this this is just a fact that we don't have to like
But we do have to deal with we've got to deal with the fact that when luke typed in what Linux distro
Should I use and then closed his tab right as I was about to switch back to his screen?
It's out popo has
Yeah, and you know what's funny is um, I know borrow and a couple of things
But I said best overall was popo. I never actually switched off a popo s on my desktop
I don't know if I ever actually acknowledged that on wancho. I don't I don't feel like I realized that
I I kept it because I I did the vast majority of my Linux sing on my other machines
Which were not running popo s. I was running steam os on
On the media pc and then I was running kubuntu on my laptop, which I actually ended up mostly really happy with
They're Worst in issues, you know, we'll talk about those
But uh, yeah, I didn't actually end up using my desktop that much and for the limited amount that I did use it popo
s not only was usable, but it actually got better
Over the entire course of the challenge
Someone in chat said I asked the llm search and ubuntu admit was number one. I was like, oh, that's an interesting idea
I should just ask search which I'd never do. Yeah, but I should just do that and
It's the exact same output um
No bar project. I am specifying. I'm switching the Linux from Windows
And that's where a lot so so a big part of why it recommended popo s for me was that I laid out what my requirements were
Yeah, I want and and a huge part of the of the residual
Sort of branding for popo s is that it's really good for people with NVIDIA GPU's
Who want a turnkey gaming experience and are coming from Windows? That's like that's the identity
Of popo s and also that it's not just for gaming
like that was That's that's the kind of like branding in a nutshell for popo s. I think I think
First of all, I think a lot of people have labeled me as like the Linux guy here, which I think is just not
It's not true, but you're definitely You definitely had more familiarity going into it than either. Oh, no
I'm just trying to qualify my next statement as like I probably don't know as much about this as some of you seem to think that I do
um But in my experience the whole
better NVIDIA driver native stuff is like
Yeah, no, I know that hasn't been a thing for me in like a long time
I think that's uh, I think that's an old and it's it's everywhere
So like it was talked about a lot in the past, but I think we're kind of past that problem
um At least in in like everything I've used like mint is much more casual
And has no problem with NVIDIA drivers mint for me can switch between Intel and and NVIDIA
Graphics for like performance or battery saving setups and stuff and just has no problem with it like I don't think that's a
modern problem Just does a note for anyone watching. I wouldn't get too scared about the NVIDIA on the next thing
It's it's really not as big of a deal as it was before tim 000x3 says, okay
Here's my counterpoint Linus. Joe gamer is actually going to also watch LTT
So they're going to say Linus has a lot of problems with popo s and probably not use popo s now
Are you taking that into account? Well, I can't at the time
There's a bit of a like temporal issue with your argument because at the time that I selected popo s
I have not yet made a video finding out that popo s was problematic for me now
so it's Yeah, and also the chat gpt user base versus Linus tech tips viewers
So the chat gpt user base is this big And the Linus tech tips user base our viewer base is this big. Yeah, like we
I've talked about this a fair bit, but I think our regular viewers
Especially our WAN Show viewers
Overestimate the importance of us and I'm flattered. You know, I I appreciate that
If if people that I game with figure out what I do the most common question I get is what pre-build should I buy?
Because I'm not into this stuff Yeah
Yep, it was astonishing to me. I think much less so you but it was astonishing to me to figure out how
Massive the pre-built market was I thought some of these companies were just kind of small
I've existed forever some people will build computers or whatever
No, they're big. They're very big. Yeah, they're huge. I didn't realize how much like sway
System integrators had as well because they're so massive. Yep
I had really no clue and because of how important they are not even necessarily computers because I'm dumb even from a sales
Perspective but from a marketing perspective. Yeah, like when people are shopping for us for a gaming system
Having your brand In everyone's configurator is in some ways like way more powerful than any reviewer that you could ever see
Product to because that's where people with a very high purchase intent
Are going to be seeing your brand and are going to be exposed to your product
And it's it's funny because I um, I in a lot of for a lot of my career
I sort of took for granted my experience as a product manager and working in sales and marketing
As just like well. Yeah, but like everyone knows that the enthusiast side of things is just this like, you know, tiny little cute
Niche and and and understands that there's actually a much larger machine here. Yeah, that doesn't really care about us
yeah, but then The longer I've gone the more I've been like no actually that perspective was really important
in trying to in trying to frame products in a way that
Because I'm one of you because I am an enthusiast. I I can see the things that are important to us
but also share the perspective that
Guides product decisions that we don't like. Yeah, and that is that
99 out of the 100 people that are purchasing it are not us
And don't care like okay here. Here's something that I know is a bugbear for you
boring modern graphics card packaging. Yeah
But look at it from NVIDIA's perspective. Okay GPU box. Here we go. Dude. They were so cool. Oh my god packaging
It's so boring. Okay, that boring box. So this is what they used to look like
That's so sick. This is what they used to look like so much better, dude. Here's what they look like
Here's what they look like now So NVIDIA mandates that you have to have you know this and on the side
Let me see if I can find a shot from the side Uh, you've got to have so you've got to have certain
Yeah, I know I know relax over clocks. Okay, here you go
So you've got to have this on the side so that no matter how it's faced on the shelf
Everyone can see the g-force and the model number and you know whatever and you know what in fairness to NVIDIA
I'm not that against that I think that's okay. This was pretty hard to read. Yes, you know about this, right?
This is like, uh, it's like a table book. Did you did you order it? No
Um, oh remember this thing. Yeah, I know I didn't I should yeah, did that ever
Uh, noteworthy find from the did that ever like come to life?
publisher's website for stock alerts overclocked an archive of graphics card box art can be
Let's go All right. Uh, this is your birthday present sick. Thank you. All right
um Yeah, I I think having some amount of standard labeling so that you can tell what
Thing you're buying is fine. But then beyond that I would like it if it was if NVIDIA would screw off
Um, and just let people do fun stuff outside of like, you know, have your we we talked about it with thumbnails where there's like the
The safety zones or whatever. Mm-hmm where like, okay This isn't this isn't going to conflict with youtube putting a timestamp or or a hover over or something like that
Have those areas just be where NVIDIA has their mandatory branding cool. No problem. And then beyond that have some fun with it
It's a graphics card. It's supposed to do fun things
Somehow we ended up here. We were talking about this article on the Labs website. Check it out at lttlabs.com
Um, it's just up here in the in the feed right here before you ask. Yes
We do have an rss feed So that you can make sure that you see all these all these really all these really cool
Articles that are actually coming out on a very regular basis these days. Yeah, go check it out. Yeah
All right, let's pick another topic Oh, this is cool. Uh here do you want to bring up the visuals for?
Wave overhangs is a new open source slicer forked from orca slicer that can print
And this is wild Fully horizontal 90 degree overhangs without support material
That's what I looked like that's confusing
I don't I'm not a big 3d printer omega brain, but this that's confusing. Okay. You've got the visuals up now
I think so. Okay. So here. Let's throw out. Okay. This is cool. Yeah. Can you like zoom zoom zoom? Yeah, there we go
So instead of laying plastic into thin air and then just hoping for the best
Okay, it generates concentric rings of material
That each grab onto the cooled ring that was laid down before them in the same layer
Propagating outward from the supporting from the supported edge like a wave
So we're looking at the one on the right over there
So you can see that it it kind of it kind of goes
A little farther a little farther each time
In order to in order for that overhang to have something to grab on to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
This concept isn't brand new arc overhangs first appeared back in 2022 as a proof of concept that using overlapping circular
toolpaths could achieve the same basic idea The difference is arc overhangs were never integrated into a real slicer and required manually extracting
Coordinates running a separate script and then pasting the gcode back into your sliced model
Wave paths do look a lot more simple Not exactly that kind of thing that most people are going to want to bother with
Wave overhangs then is the first time the technique has been built directly into a usable slicer with a gooey toggle
With tunable settings and two different algorithms to choose from it is still very experimental
There are around 20 tunable parameters and no presets yet and warping on larger spans is a no limitation
But the developers are asking users to be part of its development and upload test prints to a community gallery at wave overhangs.com
To help figure out what settings work best across different printers and materials
So be be part of the change that you want to see in the world. Let's have a look at some stuff from the gallery like
Oh Oh, how cool is that?
Wow, right That's pretty sweet
Oh, I like it Less supports should be less wasted plastic more warping observed. It's always hold on a second. No, wait a second. Oh wait
What am I looking at here? This looks like a uh
No, forget this one Hold on. Hold on. Let's find what yeah, here we go. Here we go. Here we go
Okay, that isn't that isn't that's an overhang and a half
That's wild Being able to print that like yeah, not perfect, but like
That's crazy. There's the print bed right there
Man Dang 3d printing you crazy one. Look at this
Best print so far on this very challenging test print pattern zigzag
Wow, there's definitely some warping. Oh, yeah
But like this is how this is how these things get to the point where it's like click and forget
Am I wrong that this would even just be a good idea to do even if you did have some supports to help stop the warping?
Because wouldn't it be stronger once you remove the supports as well?
Or am I just totally tripping possibly because what I'm seeing in the in the demo imagery
The the thing that was most interesting to me. I'm going to jump over to mine. Look at that
Oh, wait, we can look at that. Look at that. Look. Look at this. Look, man. Look at this. It is cool. No supports. Luke
That's pretty wild. That's crazy. This is the base guys for context. This is what was stuck to the base of the print bed
Yeah, so this gives us a look at what it looks like from the bottom like oh
Man, that's what I'm seeing here is like in these example images the detached lines here
Just removing those and making it so that your
your like Your your path is all the way from back here. So you have all the strength from back here on these like
These parts here which seem like they might be more breakable. I don't know. I'm not 3d printer brain guy
But it seems like potentially using wave paths in combination with supports if you can't afford to have
any deformation Could be a cool option for strength. I don't know
James unknown says I've been 3d printing for years now my own business now and this is huge
Not just saving material, but also what Luke is saying. I can see that being way stronger. Cool. Okay
Sweet very I mean that that seems awesome to me because you might even end up with a combination of both
You might not need as much support If it's not going to be as much of a as big of a problem
So you can save some material and it can be stronger like what a win
All right. I got a funny one Qualcomm's stock surges
In response to a report that it could make chips for an open ai smartphone
And then it lost much of those gains on subsequent trading days
According to a report from well-known tech analyst, uh, Ming-Chi Kuo
Open ai is working on its own smartphone in an effort to compete with the iphone with mass production targeted for 2028
Kuo. Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. This is sec. This is sec. Hold on. Hold on. Relax. Relax
Kuo says that open ai has partnered with chip makers qualcomm and media tech to develop the smartphone's processors with luxe share handling system
Codesign and manufacturing the phone will reportedly have no apps and be a completely agentic workflow. Whatever that means
This is another in a handful of hardware products. Hold on. Hold on. Contain yourself
This is another in a handful of hardware products that open ai has announced but not yet released
Including earbuds and that home pod style smart speaker that johnny i've is reportedly working on
Okay, go
First of all just flat line used no brain power
Had a thought Sounds terrible. I would never want to buy this
Oh my god Okay, diving a little bit more into things. It uses no apps. Dang that sucks a lot
So much of what i'm gonna need to do is using apps on my phone
Uh, hopefully i'm not just like, you know that old guy that gets clipped in the future when people are like, well, obviously
We didn't need whatever but at least right now. This seems genuinely bad
Um, also, isn't it called apps when you add like functions to agentic?
systems Like when when what does that even mean when a jet this is to be short for application
This is kind of what i mean now it's developed. It's kind of its own meaning I don't know what to tell you when they added wolfram alpha as a thing to
Open ai's agentic mode. Yeah, was that was it not an app?
It could be called skills to skills and tools sure whatever
Um Sounds sounds good. Uh other than the product the product sounds terrible
Um Remember that time that facebook wanted to make a phone? Yeah, remember how nobody
Wants or needs a phone that is not
at least At least a walled garden ecosystem that is that is
Accepting of you know, pretty much everything else running on it as a platform
Can you think of? any reason
to want this Over a phone from someone with decades of experience building hardware like apple
The western world is still going to want iPhones and the rest of the world
Is still going to want Open systems that they can extend and modify and and keep going long term
And this is neither And I don't think it's going to breach the market basically anywhere. Maybe it'll be popular for sales in san francisco
Uh and that's probably about it So it's the it's the smartphone for tech bros and tech bros only
Whoa Okay, do you want to hear something kind of wild?
There's more viewers on there's more viewers on the WAN Show channel than there are on the Linus tech tips channel
I think it's going to be time to cut it off pretty soon guys if you're watching on Linus tech tips right now
You got to go switch over to the WAN Show channel. We got to figure out that collaborative thing
Yeah, I think that's probably the way to go like moving forward
Yeah, like a collab stream. Yeah, we stream on the WAN Show and then we just collab with LTT collab for a while
I don't think we should do it forever because I don't want to be sending
Notifications on both forever. I think we should move to wan shows sooner rather than I don't think it will if you're subscribed to both
I think youtube is smart About that. I also I also don't want to let people get complacent about it
They should subscribe to the WAN Show in order to continue to follow the WAN Show
So get get get on for streams get on over there. Really sammy?
um All right, moving on to our next topic
I'm gonna pick one Maryland video has become the first american state to ban surveillance pricing in grocery stores
Critics do say that the law has too many loopholes, but
Look, let's Let's start with let's start with the good news side of it
The law was signed by governor west moor on tuesday and bans grocers and third party delivery services from using personal data
To set higher prices if you're not familiar
Surveillance pricing is a practice that uses some
characteristic of yourself like your zip code for instance or your ethnicity or
um Just any personal personally identifiable personal information about you and uses it to adjust the pricing upward
Because of what you can presumably afford there's some camera thing and it's like all white people like broccoli
Let's increase the price of broccoli pretty much. It doesn't have to be a racial thing, but it could be let's face it
It could be whether we want it to go to a race place or not it often ends
They'll put it behind some machine learning thing and call it a black box and say they have no control over what kind of box
I think you're more intimately familiar than me
No
Listen I
Colorado California
Massachusetts illinois and new jersey are all considering similar bills
But while this is a win consumer advocates are saying that maryland's law is full of loopholes
The biggest one is that it bans raising prices based on personal data
But doesn't stop companies from raising prices for everyone then offering personalized discounts
That ultimately arrive at the exact same outcome There are also exemptions for loyalty programs and promotional offers
Which are some of the main vehicles that companies already use to do this
And there's no private right of action meaning that regular consumers can't actually sue if they get caught up in surveillance pricing
Only the state attorney general can enforce it which critics say guts any real deterrent so
It's a little bit of progress in that we're finally talking about the issue
We're acknowledging the issue But it's very clear that there is a lot more that needs to be done
And I mean personally I would just love to see this happen across the board
You know, why are airline why are airline operators allowed to do this?
Actually crazy. They're like the entire vacation industry seems to operate based on this
However, however, I I would caution that we don't want to go too far
Regional pricing on services like steam, for example, I
Fundamentally support so this shouldn't be able to be done within a country. Is that fair enough?
I think that's a fair line to draw. Let's use the those arbitrary lines on the map
And let's let's make those the boundaries. Would you go as far as like
A province Or a city would I allow
How Different pricing because I'm pretty sure somebody had Alberta plates on
Oh, right because it has to be dynamic. No, it has to be dynamic. Yeah. No, I don't I
Because my mind is like, I mean, there is different pricing for like say milk in Alberta versus here
Yeah, but it shouldn't be because of where you're from or because of who you are. It shouldn't be. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's f***ed up
Especially because it incentivizes these organizations to then collect the data on everybody. Yeah
And then whether or not they actually use it. I mean a lot of the tech could use it anyway
You can set your pricing there might be market factors It might be more expensive to get trucks to wherever you are. Maybe you're way north in Canada or something
It's just a fact Um, but you can't you can't change it based on who's in the store
Yeah, obviously that seems like it should just happen
Um fools and horses says Linus, do you collect any trends or data from LTT Store?
Where does the line get drawn? You know what? This was actually something that you don't use that to
Target pricing for specific users though. No, we don't but Colton that actually messaged us about
um Like what we do and don't collect on LTT Store and like where we think the right line would be
I don't know if we ever actually Talked about that on wandshow. I can't actually I can't find the email
From him right now, but do you remember the one that i'm talking about they're trying to figure out like what would be
what would be You know an LMG friendly
level of like cookies and data collection
To determine whether some of the marketing efforts that his team is doing are actually working because right now
We do some limited data collection, but there are pieces of it that would be very helpful to them that right now they don't
They don't have enough to get it to get a clear picture for instance like
um, one of the things they were looking at was like conversion of
um of people on Floatplane
For subscriptions and stuff like that Uh, what what is what's the right amount?
The Floatplane one was a pretty big line because we don't have a banner for stuff like that because we don't do like any of it
So we were like, uh, we'd have to do oh like a gdpr
Like i'm like a cookie banner and like all that kind of stuff
um So i we just didn't do it at zeem says i avoid ads at a very high cost. Yeah, we're not we're not talking about ads
Though we're talking about like forms of tracking. Yeah
Because like you it's it's there are also other ways to do it though and that that was the counter pitch from Floatplane
So how do we do it? You can have like
You can have it so that it's a link
And like the where did the url come from?
Yeah, so we can't we can't track it on like an individual user basis, but we can see like this many people clicked this link
and This many people that clicked on that link did follow through and purchase a description
Now someone could screw that up Because the for us because they could click on the link and then like navigate somewhere else manually
And that manual navigation might get rid of the the uh the url
Like there's there's yeah, there are other ways to do it. They're not perfect, but neither is
aggressive cookies that you're also feeding to
Facebook or whoever else because you're running it through their systems. It's another thing to keep in mind
Yeah
All right, well, let's leave it alone for now and then we'll go from there, I guess
I don't know man. I I understand why his team wants to do this stuff, but I also understand the hesitation
Yeah, but like I said, there are other options. It's it's not like we're we're saying
I mean we might we might have said no at the time because we're such a small team
We can't just do everything all the time, but um
There's ways that you can track how well that campaign is working without being able to tie it down to it specific user
Okay, like it is possible. You can you can have flags in the url
that follow the process and if if
One of those like url flagged people that goes through does a purchase. Yeah, it's just holding tallies
Okay, so you like the advertising platform side should know how many people you served that ad to
Our side should know how many people came to the site with that in the url
And then our side should know how many people checked out with that in the url
And then you have your three data points I'm like ideally that's enough and then we're not feeding it through
Metta or whoever else Amica asks are you just putting yourself at a commercial disadvantage by trying to be ethical about this? Yes
But like we often do
and That's something we've decided to do
And I think I think that should almost potentially uh reflect
I'm just gonna skip
All right in some other cool news you guys can come up with your own morality
The first tesla semi truck from their gigafactory nevada high volume production line has
officially rolled off the line the semi is
A little late. It was first unveiled in 2017 with an original promised production date of 2019
Okay, a little late But it's here. It is worth noting. This is not the first semi to be produced a handful were delivered to pepsico in late 2022
But those were essentially like hand built on a pilot line
This time we're talking mass produced units with an expected annual production capacity of 50
Thousand trucks although it is worth noting that that will have to ramp up over the next few years
Doesn't mean anything and it doesn't mean anything because tesla lies constantly
But but but this is as far as we can tell truthfully the mass production line
These trucks have a range of 325 miles or 500 miles depending on whether they are the standard or long range model
And that is apparently fully loaded though. It's not clear in our notes. What exactly
Fully loaded Means there's definitely degrees of loaded for semi trucks. They support teslas mega charger, which is 1.2
megawatt charger
Could they not have done 1.21?
They were so close 1.21 megawatts
Yeah, that would be pretty sick And does it round up that'll restore 60 percent of the trucks range in 30 minutes
Cost on the long range model and this is what makes this good news WAN Show cost on the long range model is expected to be
290 000 us dollars
That do we have a reference point for other semi trucks? Oh, they're really expensive
I know they're so expensive That was my grandpa's job and like the maintenance and the dealer network and just the like old boys club of everything the financing crazy loans
290 000 us dollars for something that
Is going to have sure all the disadvantages of an electric vehicle, right?
Like these batteries will eventually wear out and you have to charge and blah blah blah blah
But that will also have the advantages
Of an electric vehicle and that you're using simple electric motors
That's okay. Sorry not simple, but relatively low maintenance electric motors. Dude, this thing looks freaking
awesome I am uh, I am like kind of stoked on it to be clear. I don't think that the teslas semi is going to be taking over long haul trucking anytime
In the foreseeable future. There is a ton of trucking that isn't long haul trucking. Yes, and that's okay
And and what's kind of cool about this is for semis
I can actually see the range being less of an issue
Especially for companies that are somewhat integrated where they can build in charging infrastructure
At the various docks that they're going to be visiting because it said 60 in half an hour, right?
If you're doing an unload or load Well, that wouldn't get a lot of you wouldn't have a mega charger at like your warehouse
But if every time you docked You would be able because I mean you'd like your transformer for your for your warehouse building like simply will not have that level of
Unless you went out of your way like you're not going to have a mega charger. Sorry. Sorry specifically mega charger
Yeah, so I guess I won't do that rate, but still you could plug into something
Yes, but but the way that I see it is as long as this thing is charged in the morning
As you're going around to you know, you're bottling Let's use Pepsi as an example just because they were one of the first customers for the tesla semi
So you're going around to your various ports of call. You're going to like the bottling depot here
You're dropping off some you're making some drop offs at a distribution hub here You're going back to the bottling depot
If at every one of those are at or at some of those at the ones that you own
You're able to plug in while things are are loading and and being unloaded a little bit more
You can you can juice yourself up a little bit over the course of the day
And if you're mostly doing local distribution runs
This is just going to be so huge for everything from noise to urban smog to
Just convenience for operators like driving a big rig like like uh like man, do you know that some of them have like two stick shifts?
I didn't know what the two. Yeah, I didn't know you can like slip gears on purpose and there's all this like
Like driving a truck is non-simple
If it could be if it could be one One pedal driving semis like if we could lower the barrier to entry for for operating these vehicles
Lower the mental load of operating them so you can be more focused on the road right the barrier entry thinks spooks me because of the amount of
Opened tin cans we've had in in bc of people hitting bridges when I say okay when I say lower the barrier to entry
I don't mean that we need people who are less cognitively capable of operating them
What I mean is that fewer just fewer distractions. Sure. Um, I just I see this as an absolute
I see this as an absolute win. Yeah, it seems cool. I always have like a little bit of skepticism
um Because of their track record on being able to hit their targets and stuff like that
But sure these things just rolling off the line sounds great to me
Uh, tim asks, how about maintenance? I mean look a diesel engine is a super reliable
Engine, you know, like a like a Cummins diesel that you might find in a large truck
It's gonna be pretty flippin reliable like those Volvo trucks. They'll do a million miles, you know
And that's not even like that's not even like Whoa, you should get a free truck because it did a million miles, you know, like remember that first car
That that like traveling salesman or whatever who put a million miles on his car and the company gave him a new one
Like that's not that's not even like that remarkable but
Uh, actually, okay. Hayago ego says diesels used to be super reliable, but now they are not as good
interesting Okay, classic. Yeah, no many such cases. No comment on that. I I was not aware of that from my understanding
Big rigs do tend to be pretty reliable
um Edison Loaders hold on a second. Um, but yeah from a maintenance standpoint
I know that my experience with electric vehicles has been that it's relatively low and I would imagine that especially on braking
these would just be So much better breaking on one of these must be insane, right?
Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm missing something here. Feel free to tell me if I'm missing something
But regenerative braking would be amazing for trucks and they spend so much time idling and stuff. It's just relative
What if it takes so much energy to get them going that it's it's relative. I'm not sure
Um Okay, hold on Either way neat cool to be clear. Let's see it when it happens. Tesla's not the only player in the game
We actually I really I still need to go these guys shipping check out these guys. Uh, can you buy a semi truck from them?
Uh
Okay, so hybrid so Diesel and battery so hybrid trucks could be a better approach to a cool idea to long range trucking and Edison motors is a company that
They they they're doing like an investment drive right now Like I don't know what kind of shape they're in right now
So this is not like an endorsement of the company or anything like that
I I don't know enough to say one way or the other But I do I do love the idea of what they're doing
Um
VNG supernova says I thought semis used pneumatic braking so regen braking wouldn't be that useful
Does the tesla semi not use regen braking?
And they're braking
Uses powerful regenerative braking across all three electric motors is yeah
Um Yeah, no, no, no, yeah regular semis do use pneumatic a lot of them use air brakes
But no the tesla should be uh
Should be using regenerative braking. Yeah, yeah uses regenerative braking
So that's kind of like the whole point of the tesla semis is that it is doing things differently to bring advantages that traditional semis do not
Uh kitsune sensei says most of your wishes for trucks are already reality outside of north america. This is this is true
uh electric trucks in um
Like I I remember seeing like a crazy number apparently in the last year
There were more electric trucks produced in china than the entire total addressable market
Like the entire annual market for um
Fossil fuel and electric trucks in north america. Um, so yes electric trucks are definitely a thing
But guys it's good news wancho. Can we just let a win be a win?
Okay, there's more electric trucks on the road
All right Uh, what else we got you want to pick one? Sure. Let's jump through here
I think I know what you might pick. I'm gonna be ready for it. Is it just the next one?
Right to repair repeal repelled What a what a title colorados consumer rights continue kick rocks corpos colorados consumer rights right to repair digital
electronics equipment law took effect in january 2026 providing access to documentation and tools to repair or modify electronics
however A new bill was proposed that would create an exception for critical infrastructure a term that advocates
uh That advocates feel is too loosely defined
The bill was supported by lobbyists for sisco and ibm and passed unanimously through the colorados senate
Really? But was shot down in a seven to four vote by the colorado houses state civic military and veteran affairs committee
The core arguments from sisco representatives claims that there was potential cyber security risks
To what uh, what's the stop bad actors from using those tools to reverse engineer internet routers?
I mean lots. Okay carry on The cyber security experts pointed out it doesn't really work like that
The vast majority of hacks are carried out remotely and it is more likely the victims of hacks
Um that that need to make changes on the fly without acquiring permission from manufacturers
Yes Yeah
Cool. Oh man our discussion question here is
Is there is there? Oh, okay. No, I misread it. I thought it was wanting us to get into
Whether lobbying should be a thing or not. Oh, no, we're definitely not approaching that on the WAN Show today. No
I thought you were going to do this one Oh
Where is that one? Up a little higher. I see it. Yeah. Yeah
This week Noctua announced that they now offer public 3d CAD models for all their fans
You can find the files directly from their product download section just like any fan
Sorry, just find any fans such as the classic nff 12 pwm. Oh once I go away
If you want to download a step file to check it out sammy might have a 3d printed one for you to check out
Which is here Yeah, it is worth noting that this is not going to allow you to make your own Noctua fan
This fan that luke is holding is not really a fan so much as it is a
There's no motor model of a fan. Yeah, there's no motor in it and
Noctua says that they intentionally adjusted the geometry a little bit so that cosmetically it looks like their fans
But if you were to 3d print your own fan and actually put a motor in it, it would not achieve the same performance characteristics
You know, obviously that wouldn't prevent anyone from
You just buying a real Noctua fan and scanning it or whatever a sophisticated enough counterfeiter
Would be able to make it without this anyway But this is more for community members to
Have realistic looking Noctua products in their, you know, their renderings or whatever else. Sure
Yeah, I think I don't know. I just I just I just thought it was pretty cool. Sweet
Exactly in other sweet news
Libre pods no longer requires root for some features
So Libre pods if you're not familiar is a way to use air pods on Android and have some of the
Apple exclusive features accessible the app now works without root privileges on google pixels
Running Android 16 march update or later with the latest play system update
Google pixels running Android 17 beta 3 or above. Okay, hold on. I'm a little confused by those two
Are my do I have a problem with my notes?
Control f pixel
Okay, well Milage may vary on those two one plus devices that are running oxygen os 16 and above opo devices on color os 16 and above
and real me devices on real me ui 7.0
And above you can now get the following features without root
noise control modes ear detection
battery status head gestures And conversational awareness
There are a few more features that Libre pods supports but still require root and that's hearing aid mode
customized transparency mode and multi device connectivity. Honestly, they've nailed down
Most of the stuff that I would think I would need the app is free on the play store
But does require an in-app purchase of five euro in order to unlock all functionality
I think I actually bought it a while ago. I just need to check. Um, it's
My uh, my galaxy phone is still not on the list, but I am
Very very ready to have more
More Libre pods goodness Man, it's amazing how many updates like modern
Platforms make to make them supposedly faster and yet they are so slow
Like I remember when it's a lot of updates are not for speed youtube updated their dashboard
They claimed it was all about speed. It is still slower than it ever was like the creator dashboard and like graphs and everything
Like hello, can we can look can I search for something?
Anyway, not right now apparently. Uh, what else we got today?
Um, let's see
Boink pentathlon the LTT boink team will be competing in the seventh boink pentathlon running from 17th that makes more sense
Uh, running from may 5th to 19th in this event will go up against other tech communities
Contributing computing power through boink to support scientific research and progress
Last year LTT placed in second overall our goal this year is to take home the gold
If you want to join the competition and support science, you can find the details and sign up on the thread on the forum
Oh, I finally have a use for my computer. I'll compete this year with you guys
Here's all the details. There will be prizes Oh, wow, there's community donated prizes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah steam keys. Uh, yeah. Well, we're providing some pricing too, right?
We better be we better be well, but we're on it. We'll find some prizes. Don't worry about it
Uh, let me uh, I didn't see us in there, but we usually do. Yeah, I don't know. We'll we'll get it done
Heck yeah all right cool
Heck yeah LTT forum and
Xbox mode begins rolling out to players on Windows 11 pc's
scroll Today microsoft is expanding what used to be called the full screen experience on handhelds like the rog xbox ally
To all Windows 11 pc's laptops desktops tablets
Etc xbox mode is a full screen controller optimized interface that puts your game library front and center while minimizing background distractions
Rolling out gradually in select markets via Windows update
You can toggle it in settings then enter it with Windows and f11 from the game bar
Or by pressing the xbox button on a paired controller. Yeah, so three different ways to activate it
Discussion question is xbox mode what Windows gaming should have been all along?
Yeah Probably yeah, I mean it's it's basically the game folder from Windows vista, but like way better
Um overall, I like it ish
um
In some ways it feels like it can be a little unnecessary
Because my entire game library is in steam pretty much
Uh, but if I was someone who had a game library that spanned multiple launchers to a greater degree then
Yeah, having the the xbox mode experience consolidate them all would have more of a value to me
I definitely have multiple launchers Yeah, uh, I mean, you might like it with yeah, I might especially with um new assassin's creed
Not new assassin's creed the new assassin's creed remaster coming and stuff. It's definitely a little bit
You know full of game pass and stuff
But you don't have to click those buttons so
As they're there they'll probably annoy me. Well, let's see. Let's see
Uh Hey speaking of things that are there and might not annoy you toyota's limited edition
$3,500 crown gaming chair. I mean is here. You know what does annoy me about this is I've
I don't know man. I don't fit a lot of chairs
Just being honest. Mm-hmm. I don't so I saw this and was like no way
Let's go. I want the purchase page right now and then I saw the price
And I was like well someone will have fun with that
It looks pretty fancy
USBC I didn't notice that when I first looked at it. That is actually so funny
um Sorry, my uh, my zoom. Wait. Wait. Wait. My zoom is being a little funky. Uh here. Hold on. I'm 100 percent
Yeah, why is it $3,500 though? It's like the crown collection like the price of two monitors
That's so painful heating the cooling sounds pretty cool cooling sounds incredible the cooling sounds amazing
um I don't know what I would do with this
You know what my chair at home is right now charging I guess because it wouldn't be data like it wouldn't be connected to my computer
Don't answer that luke. We got a merge message for later. Wait. Oh, okay. Oh wait for some reason. What's in the caboose?
Uh, is that all the like is that the like
Oh, does it stuff for the heating and cooling the junk wait?
Like this needs to be like plugged in. Oh, I'm sure right which makes sense. Yeah heating and cooling
Wow, you know, I I want to try it. Is it japan only though?
I think it's japan only you just just you know, there's only about 70 units being made
Oh, why man? ah
Okay My question is if you're gonna put the work into creating it
Why so few you know, there's more than 70 people who'd be like
Toyota gaming chair and just do it 3,500 more than 70 for sure. Come on
Toyota fanboys With money and the toyota crown. You know, they didn't spend that much on their car
So the toyota crown is one of those like super fancy cars, right?
Uh, I actually I'm pretty sure it is. Don't know. What's a toyota crown?
I thought they were really nice Yeah
Yeah, it according to ai the toyota crown hybrid sedan starts at around 55,000 canadian dollars
So no not even like I said they bought a toyota So they clearly didn't overpay for their car so they can afford so they can afford a fancy chair. I guess I don't know
Is this a plug-in hybrid Is it what the chair? No the car. Oh, oh, I'm a hybrid system
If it doesn't say plug-in hybrid, then it's just a regular hybrid
powertrains limited models blah blah hybrid system
Sure, but charge hybrid max. Yeah. No, no, they're hybrid not plug-in. Ah, damn. Sorry luke
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We've got a couple more topics still too Do we a bank robber is trying to get out of his conviction
By claiming that geofence warrants are a violation of his constitutional rights
This is down in the states the supreme court is hearing this case
On whether a geofence warrant violates the fourth amendment's protection against unreasonable searches
What is that the case uh, well here we'll get to it the case stems from a 2019 bank robbery in richmond virginia
Where a man made off with a hundred ninety five thousand dollars
Police had no leads until they served a geofence warrant on google
Which handed over location data for every device that was in the area around the time of the robbery
Which eventually led to the man's arrest when they found a bunch of cash with them
So context of geofence warrants if you need it is police draw a virtual circle around a crime scene
Pick a time window and then ask a tech company like google to hand over data on every device that was inside that circle during that time
Practical usage tends to follow these stages
Initial sweep gives police anonymized location pings and timestamps for every device within the circle identified only by numerical IDs
Police then flag any devices that look suspicious based on movement patterns and go back to the tech company with a follow-up request
To unmask those specific accounts getting the email address's phone numbers and user names that are tied to them
In the case of google this data comes from google's location history feature
Which technically requires you to opt in but most people who use google maps or other google services are already sharing this information
So the plaintiff's lawyer argued that even anonymized location data acts like a type of fingerprint
Since your specific moving pattern movement patterns can be used to identify you
The doj countered that location data just represents public movements that anyone could observe
So the fourth amendment defense shouldn't apply
The discussion question here is that the justices seem split and generally reluctant to wait into how the fourth amendment operates in today's world
This one is complicated
Yeah, why do criminals keep bringing Identifiable phones to crime scenes. Yeah, but that's a very complicated question that I really will never understand
But then also also
Why am I able to be tracked?
in a personal I personally identifiable way by something that supposedly cares about my privacy
Yeah, I don't like that, but then counter counterpoint
If you're a narrow-do-well taking money that ultimately, you know, we all pay for like I'm not an american and I don't bank at that bank
So I have nothing to do with like that specific case, but at the end of the day
We all pay for a crime like societally
um Do I do I mind if never do well everyone there got their information flagged and taken by the government
But then counter counter counterpoint Yes, to luke's point. That's exactly what the lawyer's arguing and who's defining how big the circle is
So what if they're like, um, there was a bank robbery in north vancouver. What if
What if we circled the entire greater vancouver area and just grabbed
Everything and use this data for multiple other things going on and also so I can track
My wife's phone to see if she's going somewhere that I don't like or I'm not going to tell anyone that I just did that
What if there was no bank robbery? What if there was a protest?
Yeah, now all of a sudden it can become a tool for
government crackdown
I actually Do not
Envy the supreme court justices as they navigate this one
To be clear I have No pity for buddy who got busted stealing a bunch of money from a bank
Just desserts However
The methods do matter If you want to even maintain the branding of having a free society
And this one is Complicated they're just exercising their freedom to all of your information and data and knowing where you are all the time
Oh, that's what you think freedom is. It's just it's just freedom
I don't know what you're talking about Yeah, man freedom is uh, it's she's a complicated. She's a complicated concept. I read a really interesting essay recently on the
um, the ways that the word and the concept of freedom have been kind of perverted
From the way that a lot of people kind of
Intended them in the in the in the in the creation of sort of the the western model of free society
sure and how They've become kind of divorced from the responsibilities that accompany that freedom
And how we're not sure if that freedom will survive
um an unwillingness to also
Exercise the freedom responsibly and be a part of
Be a part of that functioning free society. Is it really interesting essay? I wish I could find the link for you guys
But um, yeah fascinating It doesn't come to a conclusion
Because it's because it's complicated archangel of death said as the saying goes your freedom ends when the freedom of the big
Corporation and government starts or something like that
Yeah, sir
Just so that everyone's clear Archangel of death meant that with a big fat slash s. Okay relax sometimes
Well, yeah, but your freedom to have your ip not ripped off just got obliterated by every single ai company on the planet. Well, yes
Luke It's good news wancho
Right, okay calm down next topic Android developers are revolting against google's 2026
Sideloading registration mandate starting september 2026 google is fundamentally changing how sideloading works on Android
Right now installing an app from outside the play store is as simple as downloading an apk and tapping install
Sort of you have to enable unknown developers whatever whatever whatever but sort of
Under the new rules every developer even hobbyists and open source contributors who never touch the play store
Must register with google verify their identity with government issued id register their app signing keys agree to google's terms and pay $25
fee If they don't their app gets silently blocked from installing on any certified Android device
google says that power users Can still install unverified apps
But the new advanced flow requires enabling developer mode by tapping the build number seven times
Navigating through multiple setting screens and waiting out a mandatory 24 hour cooling off period
Over 37 organizations including the eff
Eftroid proton next cloud and the tour project have signed an open letter demanding the google reverse course
Eftroid calls the mandate existential since its entire model relies on volunteer and
pseudonymous developers who have no reason or desire to register with google
The rollout starts in brazil indonesia singapore and thailand with a global expansion plan for 2027
custom ROMs like graphing os and linage us
Are unaffected Discussion question if installing an app on your own phone now requires a 24 hour waiting period in developer mode
Can google still call Android an open platform?
I mean, I think they can still call it whatever they want, but is it one?
Um, I don't know. I think this is something that would kind of push me to do the same thing
I'm doing with Linux right now on my phone, which is just try alternative options
Let me pitch you some food for thought
With this change, would you be more comfortable recommending an Android phone for your grandpa or grandma?
No, really I would
straight up 24 hour waiting period for it random apks the way that scams work
Zero question Now does that mean that I support the move?
Not necessarily. I see lots of problems with it
but I also can see
a good faith argument For why google wants to unmask developers on the platform and they are still offering a way that you can install anything
You know what I would like a 24 hour waiting period would functionally kill
The like, oh, yeah, grandpa. Just go here and install this and click through this and click through this
I'll wait on the phone with you while you dump all of your life savings. A lot of those scams are multi-day long
Okay, not all That's totally fair. That's what makes it so much more work. Yes, it definitely would I um
I would like to see this as a
Feature That is like family management controllable interesting. So like a fleet management feature, but okay, so here's my question though because
Who is the administrator of that though? Like as as a as a head of family like techie dude
I hear that and I go. Oh, yeah, that totally makes sense That's how I would manage it through family link and I would do this and I would do that
But most people's structure is not necessarily like that
Like I can this is one of those ones where on the surface
I can see this feels like sacrificing freedom for security in a way that I do not like
It does but I I think if you put that in the power of users
Yeah, you'll still lose some people because they're not going to have that type person in their family or whatever
But in my experience of my my grandpa living far away in a retirement village effectively
Yep, there was like an it person
Thing I don't even know what I would call it It was like the person that everyone in that town because it was it was a pretty sprawling area
But it was and everyone had their own homes and stuff, but it was a retirement focused area. I don't even know
I'm sure it has a name. I don't know what it is Um retirement community sure
And I don't know if this person's shop was like on site in that community or not
But like just everybody knew who he was Um
and He had a particular way of dealing with everyone
Which was actually like kind of neat Because it was like the only person everybody really used word of mouth was everywhere
That like if you were have like if your laptop was screwed up You just exchange you and then fix yours and like sell it to somebody else or whatever
Like he was pretty good about just like keeping people going Okay, and he had basically like team viewer on everyone's systems
Which I know But he could tap in if he like needed to help you with something because there would often be like
Oh, there's something going on with whatever that's what our change of death says 24 hours is enough time for my elderly family members
To call me just to check if they're doing the right thing I'm still fundamentally against it for other reasons and I think that actually summarizes
sort of Where I am at right now. I haven't had a lot of time to think about it. My reason for this very long story
Oh, sorry. Okay, whoever that dude was. Yeah, could maybe enable this thing for these people
That he was a good actor. What if he wasn't? Yeah, then disaster
And this is a not a good actor and you're in that dude's position this 24 hour window will not stop you
This is true fools and horses has a really good point and asks asks the question
Has Android gotten so large That the risk of being called negligent for allowing these things and for not putting obstacles in the way
Is greater than the risk of their disgruntled customers over the loss of freedom loss of
openness How much of the market would they really lose?
And I think that's got to be the question that google is asking themselves as they navigate this decision
And I I suspect the answer for how many people they're going to lose is
Extremely small. Yeah um
And then that's not like that's not me saying that I support the decision
I'm just saying that that's The reality is that most people are not even watching the wanshow
Not even aware of this would have never side-loaded an apk. Anyway, unless some rando told them to do it in which case
This was probably a thing um
So g freak asks why is this?
Also, oh, okay. Sorry. They're responding to someone else. Yeah, never mind. Um, yeah, ann m white says it won't be zero
But yeah, it will be small Leaving one's most experienced os and just like switching is like kind of a pain like honestly
That's why Yvonne's still on iOS not because she prefers it
But just after she did the iphone challenge. She's just like oh switching phone phones
Pain in the butt. It really is and just I I do think it's going to be pretty negligible
Our comey and says leave to what iOS. I mean graffin os is an option
iOS um I saw I saw cool. Uh, this was cool. This was not really good news enough to be good news wanshow, but um
Windows phone Android launcher someone's uh, someone is working on or
um Made oh no, apparently this is old
Just uh an Android launcher that like looks a lot like Windows phone tried that was pretty cool
Anyway, that's it. That was a little highlight for that I I don't think we're going to reach a conclusion on this one because I don't think that it's it's cut and dried
It's not simple. I do I do appreciate google's um
Position that they are still allowing side loading
With these caveats and for me for my use of Android the handful of times that i've needed to sideload
This would have been good enough. This would have been a minor inconvenience. Where does the slope end?
Are we on the slipper so so and I can't tell I don't know that we are i'm not trying to claim necessarily where we are
I don't either. There are there are times where I have been like this is a slope
I don't know that this one is but it it smells like one. It well, okay
In a vacuum, I would push back If this was the only change that google had made to Android over the last five years
Then I'd be like luke come on. Yeah, they've been good stewards. They've done this. They've done that
In the context of everything that google has done though with chrome and with Android
um But their products in general over
I mean the last while It's a lot harder for me to do that. I've they've lost my trust. Yeah
And I think that's a big part of it. It's like they've There was a time when google might have done this and said trust me bro. I got you and I said, okay, I would have
I still have a little bit of that with them, but not as much as before I feel like they uh
Let's check in on killed by google I feel like they've been slowing down, but I'm not sure
Okay, so 2026 and beyond is these
Oh, okay. Yeah, that's actually not that much compared to I mean
2024 being like
What all of this the post covet time was a big
Was a time of a lot of consolidation for the big tech companies
Team sizes shrank projects were abandoned. It wasn't just google at that time
Wow That's me. Yeah, the google is like the the corporate
Uh embodiment of throw things at the wall and see what sticks man
Yeah And this next uh after dark segment is the embodiment of throw questions at
Us and producer Dan. He's a rubber made bin shelf now. There he is
Uh throw questions at us and see what sticks
I have become square Let me get us changed over uh after dark
And I have to push this button to Sorry that came out of nowhere. It was unprepared
You good Hey lld
I've been thinking about this lately badminton is super popular around the world
But most pluriplayers aside from the very top don't seem to make nearly as much as athletes in other big sports
I think about this a lot. So
Take this for the semi-informed
Um Rant that it kind of is
Um, I think it's a number of problems and I think that
bwf So badminton world federation is doing some things right to address it
For for instance, they actually just recently changed the scoring format. So
In the in the olden days. So I guess this ended ended in the 90s or early 2000s. I think badminton was done with service point
So that is that you can only score a point when you begin the rally with the serve. Okay, so it was service point
Sets of 15 and then best of three sets
The problem with service point is that the games would sometimes drag on forever
It was an enormous burden on the athletes and when you consider that oftentimes during tournaments, they're playing back to back to back
Across subsequent days It could put you at a major disadvantage if one of your
If one of your sets dragged on for a really long time because you have to win by two
So a service point win by two means that you could
just defensively carry things forever and it really
Rewarded endurance and less aggressive play. So it was changed to rally point
So you can win a point on any service, whether it's yours or the other players
Um, so I believe in the I believe in the 2000s don't quote me on that
But I believe it was the 2000s to encourage a more aggressive style of play
But to make sure the matches weren't crazy short. It was changed to 21 points per set
I think the 21 point service point or excuse me 21 point rally point format still best of three
Was horrible for the game Not for the players the players like it and they actually from my understanding still mostly like it
And there's a lot of resistance to the new scoring format, which is 15 points rally point
But why I think it's so detrimental to the sport is it's really boring to watch
A 21 point match I mean, tell me how important in hockey
How important is the first goal to you as a player right? Yeah, extremely extremely important from the opening faceoff from that moment
The entire game could be riding on the line It's also a significant amount of like fear at any point in time that something might happen
Which could result in a goal Okay, like if you see if you're if you're you know if the
If the enemy team is in your team zone and you're a fan
You're shaking in your boots At most stages of the game. Yes. Okay
So counterpoint what if a hockey game was played to 21 goals?
Yeah, you don't care that much the first goal are you
Almost doesn't matter So what's happened and especially you got to set the tone especially in a format that
Is is like a seeded bracketed tournament where your top seeds are playing against your bottom seeds
Up until you reach realistically like the the round of 16 or quarter finals
You end up with a lot of boring play
That no one cares about Because the first like a little bit of the game is everyone just kind of like settling in
And then after that you've got like a very obvious who's going to win and who's not going to win
And there's very little upset in the rally point system because
A better player will just win more points
And there's less like oh, but hold on he could defend
He could defend their service regain the serve
And like like like scrape his way back into the game
You don't really get as many momentum swings and you get don't get as many upsets
And you get a lot of the game that's just kind of like people are the players themselves are kind of tuned out
They're not going as hard And I think it's really boring to watch
The other thing that contributes to badminton being boring to watch is the camera is is the broadcast the camera angles
suck They do such a poor job
I remember showing someone like a really high level badminton match at one point and i'm going well
Why are they just like lobbing it to each other and i'm like
Bro, if I hit those shots to you on a court
And you like properly understood from the actual movement how far they're going they travel
Way farther in way less time than top level tennis players, but you don't know that from watching it. You can't tell
Like the sheer athleticism of the game is not apparent from farther. I don't think that's true way farther
It's not even close. You cannot think it's true, but it's in the amount of time. I think you're totally right
But no it's it's not even close. I promise you
Men so it's a men singles to men singles like top level olympic match comparison someone did the math total distance move
Total distance okay, I think yeah, I think we're talking about different things Total distance moved is higher
And it's in less time Both of those things it's crazy like what they're doing out there and the explosiveness of the movement. It's a great game
It's a wonderful game You can't tell the the the the angles do it no service whatsoever and especially the english-speaking commentators
They might as well be commentating golf
So i'm coming around to my point finally you should commentate a game
It'd be fun. I'd not experienced. I'm not like I it would still be very amateur and like crappy and boring bring one
This is how game casting does it bring one person
On who bring one of the people from badminton insights
And you And then you have like you're the energy right and they're the facts person
Okay, you know what that's kind of an interesting idea. It's kind of an interesting idea. I kind of I kind of like the idea
Um Anyway, I'm coming around to my point here So you ask why the players aren't paid as much and it's because
In my humble opinion I see a lot of resistance from the players
To rule changes that would make the game more entertaining to watch
Where does money come from? Interesting. It doesn't
Necessarily come from people playing the game in their backyards. They'll go and they'll buy a racket from yonix or victor or whatever
So there's revenue coming into the companies that are that are sponsoring these events
But it's not necessarily attributable to the players
It's not attributable necessarily to the broadcast except like you said to those very top players
Where the matches are interesting where anyone could win So I would actually like to see them go even farther in the reduction of points per set
I'd like to see something that's closer to like a tennis scoring system
Uh, so for badminton because the rallies are generally shorter
What I'd like to see is maybe like best of five sets
But playing service point to like five points or seven points. So very very very short sets
But that have service point in order to give an opportunity for upset victories because
Realistically even if I'm a much better badminton player than you I could make three mistakes
If you know, yeah, I'm kidding. Yeah, but but I could make three mistakes. Sure. Sure. Now the pressure's on
Yeah, yeah, right you create tension. I want tension and I want excitement
The whole time I'm watching think about sports that are fun to watch that keep you on the edge of your seat
The whole time you're watching anything could happen. Yeah, it's a yeah, it's always tension badminton doesn't achieve that
All the ideas your idea is very interesting all the ideas. I've been trying to think of while sitting here
I don't think work for the players at all. I had one where like if your rally gets
Far enough in It starts it becomes like worth more or something
But like that now you have no players like counting on
Course it doesn't work. Yeah, it would be kind of fun as like a video game, but it doesn't work as like a sport
Yeah, like and then and then if you get enough multiplier bonus you could have you could nuke your opponent from orbit
With the geo positioning laser if you if you go six six rally back and forth you can like double jump
You could do a special a special combo move
Um helicopter hit. Yeah, so there. Sorry. That's my extremely long answer to what I think is wrong with badminton is it's not
It's not fun enough to watch a lot of sports have that problem. Yeah, it also has the problem of like
being very very multinational and therefore
um It being hard to get like good common language interviews
For your various geographies of audience. Yeah, um
Ah It's tough It like it's it's a funny thing because in general
I I find myself Not liking the corporatization of sports
Like it it kind of sucks that Macklin Celebrini doesn't play for the f***ing vancouver canucks given he's from here
He's like the most exciting player in hockey right now pretty freaking cool. Yeah, I don't think I would mind that. That'll be awesome
Um And like the fact that connor mcdavid doesn't play for the toronto maple Leafs is like
You know kind of ridiculous Uh, where where's where sid from he's from he's from uh, novus kosher. I think right
So the fact that the hartford whalers don't get to still exist and sid plays for them like come on, man
That was like, okay, so Yeah, this is very true with hockey where like americans will be like, oh, well, we beat you and it's like
Yeah, you do has a lot of canadiens on it, but then baseball in stella cup you look at the Toronto Raptors
It's like all the canadiens finally made it was like kind of where they're like two canadiens on a team or something
Yeah, it's kind of a lot of americans So so as much as I so as much as I don't love the corporatization of of sport where like the vancouver canucks is just a brand
It has no meaning like there was at one point. There was more swedes than canadiens on the team
Which I don't mind. I have nothing against swedes. I just Historically been a big thing for vancouver to have a like disproportionate amount of just like basically the canucks were team sweden at one point
Yeah, um, and and so I don't like that
But what that does a really good job of
Is like getting people excited about, you know, like their team
Whereas when it's like the national team If you don't happen to have a star player, especially in a more individual sport like badminton
There's like nothing kind of nothing to cheer for whereas if you just you know had the you know, the malaysia aces
and you know the The the the the canadian geese or you know, like you had you you did more branding around it
Then yeah, I think there's uh, and I think there's a chance
To to there's also a build long-term fandom. Yeah, like people will identify like they'll wear the hat
You know, like i'm a i'm a chargers fan You know, i'm a raptors guy sure nobody nobody very few people do that except like on the court
Like they'll they'll wear like, you know a jersey or whatever for their favorite player
But there's not that that team branding and it works
It works. I don't make the rules it works
This is an ignorance thing is most of the world as interested in sports at all as north america is oh, dude. Yeah
Like as a viewer as a fan dude like cricket in india, right crazy
Is that them having a massive population? It's just crazy. Okay, and like dude at soccer
Soccer or south america. Yes spectator hundred percent hundo pee the brits hundo pee. Yeah, so that's pretty huge
Yeah, huge
Oh, yeah, yeah agent renzo's japan loves baseball dude the way that japan just kind of was like
Oh this american thing. Nope. It's a japanese thing now by the way the greatest player on the face of the earth is japanese
He's an absolute god at absolutely everything like japan just exploded into the baseball scene
That's been that's been wild to watch over my lifetime. I just like whenever i'm traveling
Literally anywhere that i've gone i've never been to india, but anywhere that i've gone. Yeah, you don't see it
Hmm interesting. That's what i mean
Like if like in canada you go basically anywhere and you're gonna see somebody wearing something to do with some sports team
In america same deal. Would you necessarily recognize their sports attire? Not necessarily, but usually sports attire has kind of a vibe it does
A solid color big logo, but i wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily there are definitely i there i've
Guarantee you there are cricket teams i would have no idea. Yeah
Yeah, all right hit us Dan and sometimes some soccer jerseys just look like an advertisement. This is true
Hey dll loving the cables. Do we have any news on DisplayPort or HDMI?
The news is that we're working on development But realistically even if we got our golden samples and signed off and said go
There's no production capacity for them until we can somewhat catch up on usbc and usba
So we're working on it. We're gonna do it They're not gonna be the same so they're gonna be a little bit more rigid just because the conductors are so thick
So they're gonna have like a bit more like memory to them But they're still gonna have the same outer sheath so there's be super uv resistant
And they'll have that kind of that nice feel to them And obviously the signal quality will be a top priority, but they won't have quite the same flexibility
So that's something to watch out for
Hello dll steam frame height. Oh, I know if it ever comes out
Any opinion on the way valve has handled the release so far has luke tried the controller. I have not. Oh, yeah
You should you should borrow one just to try it out. It's it's different It's
Definitely better for people with big hands than for people with my size mitts when I saw the imagery of it
I thought that'd probably be true. She's a thick boy the big pads man. Yeah. Yeah
um As for how valves handled the release so far, I don't think valve had a choice
Obviously valve would have loved to have the steam controller and the steam machine and the steam frame come out at the same time
I'm like no question, but It's already in the warehouse for the controllers. You gotta start moving them. Yeah
Um, I I saw in your review that the thumb collision thing
I suspect I'll have an issue with that. Right. You don't love the symmetrical thumb sticks. Neither do I really hate it
Neither do I really hate it
Read bad man A yep dll
It's great to watch live from the uk from your limited experience with it
Would you say that the steam machine will be worth the wait or bite the bullet and upgrade my i7
7700k at today's prices There are some deals to be had on DRAM right now. I don't know how long they're gonna last
It's fun. It's funny looking at them be like, oh, it's whatever percentage off. It's like, yeah
Yeah, don't ignore that. Just look at the price
If you can snag a deal, I would snag the deal you can snag and I wouldn't wait much longer
I7 7700k is old enough that um
There are modern games that are going to benefit from a from a big upgrade for you
I would go for it Hi, Linus and team. Are you still running an lg tv OLED as your work monitor?
Any annoyances you've come across and how did you fix them?
um I'm not anymore the biggest annoyance
It has got to be the auto brightness control as you go from from windowed applications to full screen applications
There's not a ton that can really be done about that
The monitor that i'm using for work right now is the one that we did a sponsored LTT for
This thing is absolutely knucking futs
Whoa, it's 52 inches 6k and the way del markets it is as like a 4k
um, what's the size of the 4k they
They compare it to I don't remember but basically it's like
61 44 by 25 60 at 120 hertz this thing is
Wild so it's like having a 4k display and then like 210 80s flanking it
Um, and it's 52 inches across it's curved. It's got a built-in Thunderbolt hub. So I just roll up with my laptop
Plug in And all my peripherals are ready to rock my webcam my mic everything's good to go
It's IPS. So there's no tom foolery around like auto brightness and dimming and anything like that
It's like four thousand canadian dollars. So it's like three grand us
I was gonna say I think I'll keep my uh, my three monitors. It's the nicest monitor that I use but could never recommend
You know what i'm saying? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's fair enough and hopefully, you know that
You're seeing prices like of
Standard class monitors. I don't 1080 1440p monitors right now
Constantly coming down. Yeah stuff like that'll come down eventually and for the for the price. I would
solidly recommend the 42 inch tv instead
that's uh Even with the distractions and annoyances
I remember we did a video a while back on how you can get like a service remote for the lg and you there's more stuff
You can adjust. I don't know that that's true of the newer ones though. I think I was on like a c2 at the time
Yeah, I've got a c2 is my main monitor and 52 inches nice and they're pretty damn cheap
Uh, let's see what else is next. Hey, look, how are you liking tarkov 1.0?
Uh, I was having a pretty okay time with it
And then you sound so enthusiastic. We and then we Linux challenged
I do want to escape from tarkov. I want to like complete the game which is possible now
Okay, hit me up. Hit me up. I'll join. Yeah, I'll I'll be your boat anchor
You think I'll have fun Um, we'll see how that goes, especially because like I was playing
decently close to launch and doing okay
But if I jumped in now, everyone's gonna have like crazy gear So it might make sense for me to wait for a wipe again and then try to beat it then but
We'll see Hello dll from the netherlands question one. My company is looking to give none techie users
Uh to vibe code in house apps
Users think will help them With their work. What's your thoughts?
Um, also when's the LTT vibe code video coming out? I talked about that earlier. Oh, you did. Okay. So yeah, it's it's dead
It'll maybe be a Floatplane exclusive with like sort of roughly cut together
But it's just it's been so long since I did the challenge that it just doesn't seem that relevant today
um So i'm gonna hear your question and take in a slightly different angle, but
An interesting application for vibe coding that i've thought of recently that i've kind of pitched to somebody internally who was
Trying to vibe code their own thing, but something that would be pretty sketchy to vibe code
um Was how about you try to vibe code it on your own?
and use that as the request
Yeah, so like Make this but not crap. Yeah, basically because one of the most difficult parts is actually getting out of someone's brain
What they actually want and you'd think that wouldn't
Be that hard, but it's really really difficult sometimes
That was what I expected to be the conclusion of the vibe coding challenge
Yeah Was that the best use of it for someone like me was to make a proof of concept that I could then hand to a developer and go
This is what I needed to do now It does everything I needed to do make it not suck and i'm not gonna lie
If you handed your version to Dan and he got to start with that instead of your notes
I bet you would have done a better job and your notes weren't even like that bad
Like compared to most people pitching things your notes were pretty good. Some people will
Give you just nothing and it's like I tried to put a lot of thought into it
Like I what I tried to do was I tried to provide Dan
With the same prompting. Yeah that I would give to an llm. Yeah
because if You know if the llm can't do it then he can't do it for sure or like if he can't do it then the llm can't do it
That's that's what I was going for so he would have to have all the information
So I tried to actually try like tried to be extra super serial like thorough. Yeah
um So like I I think that can be kind of neat like let this person brainstorm with themselves effectively and come up with like a
Yeah, I mean this thing doesn't necessarily work or maybe it's like a
Just absolute nightmare for security reasons or whatever else
But this is kind of what I wanted to do you can poke around and see the intention
And then take that and actually make a thing out of it sounds pretty cool
Um a company really encouraging their employees to do that. I mean, yeah, sounds like security problems depending on what your
company works on
I've also seen people do some really cool stuff with vibe coding. I I'm pretty sure
What's his name? Hank green? Uh, Hank green youtube
Let's go to his channel He has a video
The Artemis photos you didn't see yet And then in here he vibe coded a website called Artemis timeline
And you can go through and see the the photos that were taken
And the like time of day and which camera took it and what they were supposed to be doing at the time
And all that kind of stuff and he
Put this together with some vibe coding and it didn't perfectly work and he had to step in and
Make some changes to it and improve things and fix data and whatnot
But like he got part of the way there with vibe coding
And if it if you're not Hank green and you can't take it the rest of the way there
Um, maybe within your company you can hand it off to somebody who can yeah
It's funny you bring up like creators using vibe coding. I was at creator summit recently and I spoke to at least one
I'll just put it that way creator who uses vibe coding very regularly in their projects and just doesn't disclose it
Yeah, because they just don't feel like dealing with the hate because at the end of the day
All the viewers care about is like the end result of the product. They're never gonna audit the code
It doesn't matter because they're never going to ship it to anyone and they just love it
I know multiple creators personally that that use it and don't disclose it
But they're also not like shipping. Yeah, these are tools for themselves. Yeah, yeah
Like and and hank green did but he disclosed it
I think like multiple times in one video like he wasn't uh, that's a hank green thing to do. Yeah
Sure is And it's a cool site. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Cool. What's up boys? Luke?
What specific charity use at home when sitting at your computer and gaming?
Uh I
Had the name on my head earlier and I don't remember Uh, let me see one second. I took that from you. I can I can find it pretty easily
Do do do Computer oh my god
The Marcus the Ikea Marcus
That's it nice solid It's cheap. It's not that good
Nice Hello, legendary lords of devices. This question mostly goes to luke. Wow three in a row
But Linus is free to answer as well. I've heard you mentioned playing balder's gate three before
What's your favorite class to play? Oh, dude
I don't think Linus is gonna have one of these. I don't think you've played it. I always play mage chicks
Okay Mage chicks I think are world of warcraft or dragon
Dragon age or like whatever. I'm just I'm just I go straight for the mage chick
I personally think those are cooler in divinity because the the interaction of all the spells with each other
We don't do that kind of stuff. Um fighter
Classic So second balder's gate. They're crazy, dude
They're nuts attacking like six times in one turn is just crazy
Jumping all over the place. Yeah They're nuts
I like one of the designers for balder's gate must have looked at d&d and been like fighters are boring
What if we just gave them crack?
Just like what happens worked for the germans
basically Yeah, um, so I don't know those are fun. Um
I like tons of stuff that I've played. I've played a bunch of different classes, but yeah, just just
Senate just full sending laser down fighter is is sick
All right DLL if LTT could pivot to a completely channel unrelated topic for one week. What would you cover?
Also, thanks for the new shipping perk. I upgraded to Floatplane plus because I did the math and I would actually save money
Uh, yeah, if you order a fair bit from LTT Store, it's uh, it's kind of a no-brainer. Um, the Floatplane perk includes, um
Always free shipping. I have clarified with the team that is apparently forever
So free shipping over a threshold, but during shipstorm the threshold is even lower
Oh, okay. Yeah, okay um
It would probably be okay. This is gonna sound crazy, but I think it would be like going to garage sales
If it was just for a week just like a throwaway thing
I would I would probably I would I would probably like thrift or like go to garage this I love hunting for deals
Garage yard wars and it'd be kind of fun to like not have to bother with computer deals for a change
I'd like I think that would be a blast Linus and Luke just go to garage sales. I would watch I would watch the crap out of that
I was thinking I don't feel like this is My personal vote which I think everyone's going to get pissed about but my personal vote is that we maybe don't even do a
Scrapyard Wars this year. Oh, we're not doing money. Yeah, okay. Everything's just kind of a mess
But I was thinking next time we bring it back. I think you and I should be teamed up
Oh, I don't know you just want a trophy. Maybe
I don't know what the challenge is. I don't know why it makes sense But I think it would be fun. It's just gonna be two adults beating up toddlers at that point
No, we've done it before. Yeah, we we lost ones when we were teamed up. I think really nope
Did we not we did and then figured out that they cheated. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Yeah
But they did they did super well, and I think they only really cheated because their part like died, which was
unfortunate, but we still win
Hello Linus Luke and Dan what has been the biggest tech interruption caused by pets once I had our dog rip a DSL cable
Which took down internet and television for a few hours And I was a kid. We had a pet rabbit and they chewed through all of the cables behind the TV
Nice and then my brother and I didn't think quite as highly of the rabbit
Yeah, I can imagine you two not being into that Not a pet, but I had rats
Destroy both our minivan and Yvonne's SUV recently
Making nests in them and chewing through wires They both had they both had to go in for work over the last like few months
Yikes pretty not impressed by that. So I have to like I have to like rodent proof my garage now
Which is just you know the kind of thing I love doing on a weekend
I had that problem ages ago that in an effort to be green they made the wires out of cellulose
Let's just make wait really yeah, it was some derivative or something Let's just make all the wires in the car out of rat food a great choice
okay as much as As much as it's like a champagne problem. I was talking to my uncle about
sort of green initiatives in manufacturing and how they sometimes have unintended consequences
And he was saying that in some ways an older airframe is actually more desirable than a newer one
And the reason is that the EPA mandates the use of more ecologically friendly primers
On the frames now that just crack and fail after
Not that many years compared to the old ones like crazy expensive because I don't know it flies
And so the one from 1990 he was telling me it's actually
more economical to carefully remove only the paint
And then just touch up the primer With the because you can't use the old stuff anymore
So you just like touch up the spots where you like accidentally went through it
Then it is to like strip it and reprim it because of how often you'll have to completely strip it and reprim it now
and everyone knows this and just Keeps doing it and it sort of raises the question
How much eco-friendly paint? Do you need to use before it would have been better to just paint it once with the not eco-friendly paint?
And I I don't know the answer to that. I also wonder what about it is not eco-friendly and and how not eco-friendly it is
Because it could be that that original primer is just like really brutal
It could be as bad as painting it six times Right, but unless we unless we know for sure that math which maybe someone has done but I just
I just doubt it like how many times do they have to manufacture the cable harness and mine and Dan's car
Before it would have been better to just use the less eco-friendly cable harness. Yeah, what if it's rat food?
You know what I mean? I mean the potential the manufacturing of the product could also be super super brutal
Like maybe not so much for for wire, you know installation, but
Sometimes these have unintended consequences bro. Mm-hmm a bro. What I just got some good news. What I just got a tracking number
Uh-oh no or here here. I'll bring I'll bring it up here. I'll bring it up here
I told these guys at CES. I guess it was
Did we even make a video?
Caddo s stop tracking people
Uh Uh
I don't think I made a video Did I do a short bro? What are you talking about? You gotta tell me what you're talking about. Okay, okay
Okay, do you remember four systems the guys who did that like air jet thing? Yeah, okay at CES
They showed off something called liquid jet
so Traditional cold plates, right like water blocks are made by taking a plate of copper
And then you either you like mill a design in it. So, you know like little pins or whatever
Or or like a lot of modern ones use what's called skived copper
Where you take a blade and so you take that flat piece of copper and you like
Shave a sliver of copper and then like fold it up and then make another fin and make another video of making heat
Skive copper so cool. Anyway That's a traditional way
Your geometries are pretty limited because it's subtractive or like like using the malleability of the copper to reshape it
So Roar is using more like
um More like uh, like like silicon
Manufacturing so they're using like metal deposition
Like you would like you would make microchips
so By using copper deposition
They can make geometries that are like
Like out of this world More firmly efficient than even skived copper
Um, this is not a good that's not what i'm getting. That's not what i'm getting
I'm getting just oh no, no, you can keep that up though. I'm getting just the like cooling engines at the top right
I'm getting two So we're gonna try putting one on a gaming GPU cool and just like
Seeing how fast she go this this stuff's so cool. So I was I've been working on this since january
um And I was like, yeah, I don't see the point of me making. Yeah, I remember now
I was like, I don't see the point of me making a video about like here's a demo on a GPU
No one will ever own but i'm really excited about this and I really want to work with you guys
But I want one and it's taken until now to kind of give them all the reassurances that like
you know We're not going to judge them based on that the you know the the vrms are going to be hotter
Because it's not a full coverage solution and just like no no no guys is yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're good. We're good. We're good
I'm dude. I'm stoked. I'm so stoked to check it out. Yeah, nice. That's sweet
Yeah, howdy from texas mechanical slash manufacturing engineer here
What manufacturing methods do y'all use in the production of your products or any product in general that still fascinates you today?
Injection molding I was going to say it's all kind of fascinating casting
um three little printing
uh I mean lots of different things laser engraving
Um, I mean we have a lot of like small scale stuff in house, but realistically, you know, we're
We're we're using industrial scale manufacturers for for a lot of the stuff that makes it to LTT Store
Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to produce in any meaningful volume. So I i'm very fascinated by manufacturing technology
but Unless you asked me a specific product, then I I wouldn't really be able to I wouldn't really be able to narrow it down too much
I'm afraid
Sorry Linus and luke about to quit my job to be an executive at a startup post huge step mall business focused on home services
After seeing many businesses rise and fall. What are the biggest indicators of success tips culture?
You have to have a culture that's hungry and wants to win
At times we've had a very hungry winning oriented culture and at times we've had a very complacent
um, collect a paycheck culture and and at times we've had mixed and at times we've had a mix that has been at various
levels of health And I would say that if there's anything that I could tell you to focus on it's have a culture that is laser focused on
Just winning and being hungry and and six failure is not an option
Hey lip-lap dap You mentioned a while ago that you were going to hold a smash tournament as a middle finger to nintendo's crazy guidelines
Any updates to that for the future of whale land? We got yelled at of the el coin by our own people
Yeah, we basically I'm not going to tell you my wife said no
But my wife said no
And she was right she usually is sometimes she's not
Hypothetically I I imagine sometimes she's not but usually she's usually she's right
Sometimes she can be very very conservative
Um in terms of like like cya, you know covering our butts, but that has you know
And and there are times when it's very annoying to navigate that
But then we'll get audited and we like pass our audits
And I'm like Right good Good job, you know
Do you have any recommendations on what I should use on my px 13 for the memory modules?
I plan on repasting my
CPU to get the to get rid of the liquid metal before I kill my unit
I plan to use btm 7 950 for processing
Oh It's less a matter of what you should use and it's more a matter of what thickness you should use
Uh, you may want to try checking with ASUS. They may be willing to tell you if they're not willing to tell you
Then uh, man Your best bet might be to just take it off and measure the thickness of those thermal pads
And then make sure that you're not putting in something that is thinner or thicker than what's already in there
Or you could just keep using the thermal pads that are in there I mean realistically are those going to be a real problem for you? Is your memory overheating?
There's no liquid metal on the memory so I if I if it was me
The convenient way would be to just reuse my thermal pads there. That's going to be that's going to be my my low friction
recommendation What's your opinion on the online belief that the steam machine will include a controller on launch?
I'm interested, but the price worries me. Also. What's the status on the physical Linus corn shipping?
Uh status on the physical coins is they are in manufacturing and if you check your order confirmation
It should tell you like when they're expected to be
being minted Um as for the steam machine including a controller from my understanding it should include a controller
That was what valve pretty sure told me when I went down there for the announcement or the unveiling
Um if if something changed due to the way the market is right now
I wouldn't actually like hold valve to the coals over it
Like it's a tough situation that they're in. Um, but for my understanding that is the intent
Hello from toronto I just finished see stars and i'm looking for my next fix got any recommendations for more retro vibe fun times
Already finished crosscode from your WAN Show recommendation
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Is it retro or is it jrpg because you could you recommend exposition 33?
Oh exposition 33 is so good. Not retro looking
but jrpg Not technically it's not retro vibe fun time french rpg. Oh, they want a retro vibe fun time
Uh chain chain decos chain decos is another one. I played and really enjoyed the story gets a little sort of weird
But that's kind of typical of the genre. Um toward the end
Chain decos was my answer Dan. Oh, there you go. Sorry and last one I got for you today is hey
DLL is there any plan to make a windbreaker coat love from labelle province?
um I think so
I actually don't know i'm so sorry you might have to message support
and I think I'm gonna Message support that it's time for the end of the show
We'll see you again next week same bad time different channel
You want to head over to the WAN Show channel? We're gonna we're gonna have to transition over there pretty quick because this whole streaming on both is not working
We might have to figure out the collab feature. I don't know apparently that isn't a thing
Maybe but you could collab launch the vaude
Okay, I don't know See you later
Bye I have to fly yeah
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