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Livestream VOD – January 3, 2026 @ 01:06 – The Future Of Wan Show - WAN Show January 2, 2026

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2026-01-03 · 42,882 words · ~214 min read
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0:00 Oh, you all right well like no, I'm sick, but I'll be fine I'll be fine Such a long streak of not being sick dude You...
1:55 Your water bottle wedges, oh wow Oh Razor colors minus the gold aren't even What do you mean it's green and black?
5:03 Yeah, let's do it Okay, yeah, did you guys kill me?
5:35 You'll have to tell me down it on the thing open You What is up everybody and we
8:54 There it's perfect Notice and you put it If you hit the correct that way that would have been so funny Almost it almo...
14:18 Damn dude doing this stuff back then was so crazy.
36:16 All right, should we should we move on to our next topic?
42:47 Nepotism is pretty cool, though.
60:04 Like they're so that they don't lock any sound they don't lock any smell It feels like you're declaring that this doo...
60:47 Yeah, what was I gonna say about it?
65:26 Yeah, whereas like in America they do they do have mountains You know they have a lot of the same problem as us sort ...
75:08 I think people often a new segment dude.
77:49 Anyway, just go ahead add something to your cart maybe our new crash out t-shirt and Instead of yeah throwing money a...
93:04 I think we'll probably do another topic now.
95:18 Cool.
97:12 Okay, what is this is this a new shorts format the square Like is this and is this thing on the left just like subway...
98:30 Okay My my brain just kind of hurts right now You know what I got to say I it doesn't seem like I'm not seeing a ton ...
100:33 I don't know dude It looks like probably to me.
109:19 What All right, and that's the first ding of the new year I skipped too far back now So I'm gonna go back up.
122:26 That's bad bad Cool.
125:36 Yeah, well, let me have a look regarding tips.
131:48 It's also just good to get out I think Yeah, I like it Honestly, I don't there's
133:30 I feel it is necessary to clarify in in on this timeline So just because you don't know A and w burgers are named aft...
137:44 Hmm Uh, okay new topic, I guess Yeah hit me Oh Should we do Short new topic and then those things.
147:21 Speaking of, you know insiders spilling the beans A an alleged former amazon developer for amazon go Reached out to m...
161:51 I feel like Dan was prepped for that It's like loaded and ready.
167:22 Okay, but I don't necessarily have a ton to say about it.
169:08 Yeah, all right, again, don't know all the details blah blah blah insert various caveats.
173:44 Unique username asks will you delete comments that assume the product is great without them having seen it or having ...
174:42 That one requires a think that one definitely requires a think All right, king jarra says you get to have an opinion ...
177:49 Are you kidding me?
209:33 Heck, yeah anyways Moving on Is that it for topics?
215:20 Speaking of anything about that I don't we have no notes on this.
223:58 nose speaking of someone with a big ol schnoz myself pretty good actually Uh, I definitely need to spend some more ti...
226:49 Next up gearing up for the first plane trip 13 hours with our three month old Because of a family emergency double I ...
228:54 You know All right, next up a little crate Cats or the parrots or whatever um, a
250:34 But uh, I mean my family does like this holiday valheim server We've this is the second year in a row that we've done...

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0:00 Oh, you all right well like no, I'm sick, but I'll be fine
0:08 I'll be fine
0:14 Such a long streak of not being sick dude
0:18 You were doing great, and you're doing good. Yeah
0:21 Now you're wrecked. There was two people sick at Christmas. It just
0:27 Was what it was. They got you. Yeah I
0:34 My whole family got sick over the holiday except me so if you get me then you're better than my family
0:42 I'm a better spreading Plague so like whatever
0:47 No, I care about this nothing to be proud of no, I know I care about this now. I have to be the best
1:00 That's a lot of razor wears razor comms I
1:17 Don't think the whanshow is sponsored entirely by razor. I see some some stuff going on down here
1:30 You
1:40 Razor
1:44 Now it's more razor the skin oh my goodness
1:55 Your water bottle wedges, oh wow
2:00 Oh Razor colors minus the gold aren't even
2:07 What do you mean it's green and black? It's the wrong green Yeah, and there's gold which is wrong. Yeah, but there's black which is good. Oh my god
2:17 Hey look razor colors stop it. They're actually a little closer than mine to be honest if you ignore the pink
2:25 If you ignore the primary color oh my god
2:30 I Yeah, that regime is also, you know pretty good if you ignore the genocide, you know, oh, you know that one that's a lot of them. I
2:42 Wish it was clear who I was talking
2:47 If only we lived in a world where that genocidal regime meant one
2:53 Genocidal regime and everyone knew who we were talking about. Yeah, even current one
3:01 I think avengers says you have no idea how little that narrows it down. No, that's just it. I do
3:07 And it's sad. That's the joke
3:11 It's amazing how that's the joke our community is like I love you guys, but like damn
3:18 That might be pretty much every community I wonder if Linus realizes
3:23 I
3:28 Change isn't I don't know what it is. I can't do this. I
3:31 Can't like it looks like you're doing it. No, that's that what no that looks like it the shape of an actual heart not a
3:39 Woman's butt from behind, you know You're worse. Wow. I can't do it. You're trash. I can't even hold on. Maybe it'll help if I
3:48 Oh How is it supposed to be much better than this? It's fine. It's still misshapen
3:57 Feel like mine looks like a like a terrible a fruit from like Stardew Valley or something the like little icon for it
4:05 Absolutely, people just do this easy one. No, no, they do this. No, they do this. No, this is newer
4:09 I don't think it's like half a heart on your cheek. Yeah, but I think this is where really I
4:15 Guess you have girls so you'd probably know
4:19 And that's not where I picked it up from it was from the recent gamer leg collab. Oh, yeah
4:27 Yeah, that guy would probably know
4:32 This is not a heart we're actually getting mooned no 100% that's the heart is it's it's a buttocks
4:37 It's it's not the heart. That's a thing
4:42 Really, yeah, that's that's that my understanding is that's the origin of that shape
4:47 Hmm It's a bent over, but yeah, I know it makes sense. Yeah
4:53 Love or something. We should probably start the show
5:03 Yeah, let's do it
5:09 Okay, yeah, did you guys kill me?
5:13 What you guys
5:16 We didn't kill you. You guys did was their choice
5:22 Don't don't put this on me they would dude they would all right. I'm resuming the selected here we go
5:35 You'll have to tell me down it on the thing open
5:42 You
5:46 What is up everybody and welcome to
5:50 The very last WAN Show of its type
5:54 Actually last week was the last WAN Show before some major
5:59 Well, that's a bit of a changes that we'll be talking about sure
6:03 I mean, do you agree that it's a very big change? It's sure, but I think
6:09 Framing that way makes it like less concerning
6:12 You just ruined all the No, I think it's pretty concerning. Okay
6:18 WAN Show will never be the same. We'll be talking about that. We'll also be talking about all the tech news from this week
6:24 including really
6:28 GPUs are supposed to go up in price. Yeah
6:31 No We already lived through this one
6:36 multiple times This is double jeopardy. You can't get charged for the same crime twice. You can't yeah, you you can't
6:44 Be a witness for your spouse's crime. You can't live through a GPU apocalypse twice
6:50 These are fundamental laws. This is this is we're beyond twice though
6:55 What else we got? Grock completely ruined my morning Grock is being used to generate non-consensual sexual images of both adults and children
7:06 And it's like actually as bad as it sounds. We'll talk about that later
7:13 And apparently oh, I was gonna go for bad news. No, no good news. Please please balance it out
7:19 So far we've got bad news bad news bad news. Okay, this is gonna sound like bad news
7:23 But I think it's kind of fun unlucky RTX 5080 buyer who received rocks did their own
7:29 Investigation and they got their replacement from Best Buy they want. Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. All right. Yeah
7:34 And it's kind of sick how they did it. Let's go with that
7:38 There's nothing like hacking into the files of the principal office
7:44 What's this an
7:47 energy vortex Organic life forms. Oh, I'll quit I
7:54 Seem to have a portal into a parallel universe
7:59 extraordinary savages
8:05 I'll show you Yo
8:29 The Wancho is brought to you today by Vessie Delta hub
8:33 X-split and motion gray Alongside of course our rap partner D brand our laptop partner razor and our chair partner
8:42 Razor who if they thought they were gonna be treated more respectfully than our previous wait, was it already upside down?
8:54 There it's perfect
8:57 Notice and you put it If you hit the correct that way that would have been so funny
9:05 Almost it almost happened. I was so close. All right. Why don't we just intro was amazing? Who made that?
9:11 I actually don't know I would assume it was no key
9:15 I assumed that as well, but I didn't see like a thing or anything
9:18 So why don't we explain what the heck it was not on it was not who was it? I don't know
9:25 It was the team themselves. So really really that's so cool. Okay
9:29 We should explain it. Yeah reboot was a Canadian animated television series that was produced by Vancouver based mainframe
9:38 Entertainment alongside Alliance distribution and BLT productions, and it originally aired on YTV from 1994 until 2001
9:47 That's right reboot was my childhood. That's what computer animation looked like when I was a kid
9:53 Yeah, me too And it's notable for being the first made for television CGI series with full half hour episodes
10:01 Reboot rewind is an eight-part documentary series about the show that came out in 2024 and now
10:09 The documentarians are collaborating with mainframe to remaster the series from its original D1 tapes
10:18 Okay, this says last Friday because we put off this topic for a couple weeks
10:22 But recently the reboot rewind team put out an update video on the progress of the D1 tapes being recorded and Sven
10:30 Gave me the TLDR Every episode has been captured off the D1 tapes, which was non-trivial
10:37 BTS machines are being used to capture the footage at the original 576p and
10:43 LTT has actually been helping with this project for like two years now
10:47 Supplying Kyoksia drives for storing the footage as well as helping pay for some of the machines and parts of the machine
10:54 See there was a big challenge getting even a single functioning working machine to read these tapes because
11:03 Media production it moves so fast that no one's really thinking about
11:08 How we're going to preserve all of this stuff and in the early days of computer animation and digital production
11:16 The standards were hardly even standards
11:19 Yeah, and they didn't last very long and they weren't interoperable
11:23 So this and when the when the like manufacturing pipeline for making these things goes away
11:29 It's actually extremely difficult in some cases to like make bespoke parts for these things
11:33 So needing to source stuff was rather difficult. So we should have a video coming out in
11:39 2026 on LTT about this project
11:42 It's been literally years in the making now and then at the end of the video the reboot rewind host mentions
11:48 They happen to also have the D1 tapes for
11:51 Transformers Beast Wars aka Beasties as it was known in Canada along with other
11:57 Cool old CGI shows that mainframe studios worked on and they're trying to get in touch with people about remastering that stuff as well
12:05 Shout out to Brian. He's the one doing a lot of the hard work to restore each episode
12:09 Which is being meticulously checked for transfer errors and mastering glitches. Awesome. They also did the fun intro for today's episode
12:16 There you go. That was sick. That was very cool Also, Sven told me that the reboot rewind folks shared some restored cutscenes from a reboot PS1 game
12:25 Which is linked above? People will go nuts for these animated cutscenes because they've never been seen in better than PlayStation 1 FMV quality seriously
12:34 Okay, that's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Oh my god, that looks
12:42 That looks clean, dude
12:46 Holy crap
13:05 You
13:29 Now now it's let's not be petty accidents can happen
13:34 Oh Oh
14:01 This is the town
14:06 Oh
14:18 Damn dude doing this stuff back then was so crazy. I know, right? Oh
14:25 That is so cool. Anyway, um discussion question
14:29 Talk about, you know, the value of media preservation. What do we do to protect and preserve our work? Not enough?
14:34 I mean realistically, man, I feel like everyone probably feels like this in the moment. I was about to say realistically
14:40 I don't think it matters that much but then like
14:44 someone's gonna want some reference for even something as simple as
14:48 How well received was this GPU at that time?
14:53 And if we don't keep the media from that time, then we don't have it. Yeah, that's simple
15:00 And I think that's how a lot of things get forgotten, but I got to tell you like when you're in the thick of it
15:05 It's hard to it's hard to think about these things
15:10 Why don't we move on to our next big topic which is of course, oh
15:17 Sorry, I'm looking for good news We had we started with good news
15:22 We didn't sell us good news. We could do bad. You know what? No. No, let's do a little bit more
15:29 Moderate news. Okay. There is a potential workaround for expensive hardware
15:36 older hardware The Ryzen 7
15:39 5800x an AMD CPU from like five years ago has just hit the number one spot as the top selling
15:48 CPU on Amazon in the UK and Even older CPUs or even older GPUs like the 5800 XT are sitting at fourth place for GPUs on Amazon in the US
16:02 eBay is currently flooded with people selling older hardware
16:07 CPUs GPUs motherboards and yes, of course older DDR4 and even DDR3 memory and I want to shout out tech spot here
16:16 for doing a little article that Luke has actually been bugging us to do something about which we are actually working on in the background as
16:23 Well, although a slightly different angle, but doing a little article talking about
16:29 the usability of slightly older hardware they showed that if you compare CPUs they actually tested 44 CPUs and
16:40 Going as far back as the Ryzen 5
16:43 2600 in modern games like battlefield 6 you can still achieve a more than playable experience at 1080p high and I think this is a
16:53 really important thing for people to
16:57 Consider right now. It's like this is not really our discussion questions not really a question
17:02 It's more of a statement. You don't need to buy new expensive hardware, dude
17:06 My what are my buddies from from high school his son
17:11 Is currently running. I might get some of the specs wrong. Sorry, but I think it's
17:17 Like eight gigs of RAM Maybe 16, but I think it's eight a GTX 1080 and a 7000 series Intel processor and he plays
17:30 Whatever that riot game shooter is valorant and
17:33 Arc Raiders and he was saying in Arc Raiders. He was getting over 80 FPS
17:37 It's like dude, these are these are ancient pieces of hardware at this point
17:41 The 1080 doesn't even have like official continual driver support
17:44 But like I don't know whatever if it plays the game that you want to play at at like 80 something FPS
17:51 Why not? And like do I love 100 bucks spending a hundred dollars on an old
17:59 GPU no, I don't love that, but it's also a hundred bucks, but it's also a hundred bucks and there might be a better
18:04 I'm not this isn't a suggestion. That's just a a rig that I know of that's running
18:09 Yeah, no 100% and here's the thing too is like I can totally understand people not wanting, you know
18:16 Like being frustrated to hear like are you basically just you know telling me that you know two dolls ought to be enough for
18:23 For a child. They don't need 10 dolls or 20 dolls or whatever that ridiculous thing was. No, I'm not saying that at all
18:30 I'm saying that Channeling your inner scrapyard warrior is a great way to ride out times like this like I guarantee you
18:38 I don't think I've actually ever asked to loop this, but I guarantee you
18:43 That at some point he built a stopgap system
18:49 Sure something to tide you over while you waited for something else to be more affordable or something else to release or
18:56 when you were in between selling your last-generation GPU and
19:01 Waiting for a deal on a new generation one or whatever
19:04 I mean, I had like I think I've told you about this before where I was able to buy a
19:10 Platform upgrade through the Intel retail Edge program
19:14 But I couldn't afford the rest of the upgrade for like I think it was like half a year or something
19:19 And one of the ways that I was able to afford it was I sold my old platform and my old case
19:25 But that meant that I didn't have a case I got the new platform didn't have a case so I got this like hand-me-down case, but the power button didn't work
19:32 So I set up like a rubber band bow Basically and a pencil nice that was so I could reach under my monitor and poke the pencil and it would press the
19:40 On motherboard power button nice to turn the system on and I had that for at least half a year
19:46 Nice, whatever who cares and that's totally I think stuff like that's cool, and that's totally fine making stuff work is
19:54 is cool When did that not I thought it was fun. When did that not be cool? I almost always for a long time there I
20:02 Apparently don't build my own computers anymore because the last two that I've had either you or your kids have built but
20:09 Actually last three because there was a revision in that one case so last three
20:12 I mean I had a little bit to deal with the one in the middle, but still
20:16 But before then I would always include one thing that was just like a
20:21 Weird solution because I thought it was fun like there was one time I mounted my pump on a cutout piece of the mudflap of my old car to use as like sound deadening
20:31 So it was on this like rubber panel instead of a plastic panel in the case because it made it was just quieter
20:37 And it worked and it was awesome, and I like that part So don't don't like feel bad about doing things like that
20:43 I've always thought that's super cool and something that's really important to note about stopgapping is that it can even it can even
20:51 It can it can help It might feel like well
20:55 I'm buying something that is gonna like go down in value and
20:59 Effectively like waste a bunch of my money instead of the thing. I actually wanted so I might be better off just getting the thing
21:05 I wanted, but let me let me show you guys just some interesting math here, right?
21:10 So at 1080 you can acquire pretty easily for about a hundred dollars, and if you don't feel like paying shipping on it
21:17 Don't pay 200 bucks. Yeah, do not pay $200 if you don't feel like paying shipping on it
21:22 Or you worry that something that you buy on eBay might not be working Luke, and I have both
21:27 Tested GPUs that we've purchased on local marketplaces live like test it make sure that it actually works
21:33 Yeah, and the thing about an older GPU like this is that it's already
21:38 Gotten very low on its depreciation Someone in full-point chat earlier said 1080s have been around a hundred dollars for years now if we go back to like a GTX
21:47 780 Okay
21:50 Here we go. Those are still
21:53 Like 45 bucks, you know 25 bucks 70 dollars, whatever there
22:00 That and that's a two generation older card, right like wrap your brain around that
22:06 You could stop gap with this 1080 for three or four years, and it might lose another
22:12 50 to 75 dollars in value Whereas if you could wait a year or you could wait a year and a half on a current generation card
22:21 The second that gets replaced by something I guarantee you that you will gain more
22:27 By just delaying that purchase then you lost by acquiring that stopgap card and then just reselling it
22:33 Like it's I don't know man. I don't know what to tell you It's it's kind of a frustrating thing because you know how we often have that conversation where
22:43 It feels like there's this pressure from certain corners of the community for us to be more outraged for us to like
22:50 Demand that NVIDIA lower their prices as if they're gonna listen to us
22:53 And I mean I wish they would obviously prices are too high and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
22:58 But and and that's and that's all true, but at the end of the day
23:01 I mean we did that video recently explaining that it's not just NVIDIA
23:04 I mean NVIDIA has is videos a very profitable company
23:07 But so is TSMC who has a monopoly on the manufacturer of the chips NVIDIA cells and for that matter
23:15 So is a SML who has a monopoly on the machines that TSMC uses to manufacture the chips that NVIDIA sells and
23:23 Monopoly is a bound and you're talking about the entire supply chain companies that are holding up nations
23:28 Yeah, when you get to that scale and so it's one of those things where it's like yeah
23:31 I could I could like demand that NVIDIA lower their pricing, but I don't have that influence
23:35 It's it's it's so ironic right because influencer is right in my job title and yet well
23:41 I can't influence companies to change their pricing and our discussion question here is
23:45 Is it frustrating that it seems to go the other way too because for over a decade you and I have been going
23:53 Yeah, but did you have a D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yab Murder
23:56 audience that is what we sound like going hey guys you don't be heads you don't have to buy a brand new one
24:02 the second hand market exists making do with something scrappier is
24:08 Is honorable and based scrappier wars and it doesn't it doesn't even seem to mean anything
24:16 Some people get it though some people do get it every once in a while you'll see a post on the on the subreddit where someone's like I did my own
24:21 Scrapyard Wars and I came up with this or whatever. Those are your big moments for me
24:25 I Genuinely love that. This was one that was you're never gonna hit everybody. I know I know okay
24:33 This was one that was frustrating for me
24:37 This this video Bombed out of the gate like it sucked. It's done. Okay in the longer term, which is which is heartening
24:45 It's whatever the opposite of disheartening remember this having issues out the gate though
24:49 I do remember but you know what in spite of it having issues out of the gate this video about you know
24:55 Scrapyard warring like a Facebook marketplace home theater set up for a fraction of the cost of even a crappy soundbar
25:04 Did inspire? Multiple yeah see that's on the subreddit of people being like I had no idea
25:11 This is so cool. I love my setup now. Thanks for inspiring this. That's awesome. That's why we do it
25:17 That's why we play the game. I I I loved it. I'm glad when people get the point
25:23 I also find that you learn a lot more about your craft
25:27 Okay, I guess I'll concede that building computers is not quite as easy as adult Lego
25:32 but When it's all brand new out of the box stuff, it is a lot more simple and
25:39 You're often dealing with like configurators on websites that are telling you compatibility things off the hop
25:45 When you're on the use market, you're trying to
25:49 Price min max and that often means mixing things together from different sellers in different areas and
25:56 Trying to make sure that everything's gonna work and and trying to learn how to diagnose like on the spot
26:00 If you can go visit somebody and be like, hey, can I bring a test bench to test this thing?
26:05 I've done that a bunch and Learning what program you should run to try to verify if it's legit on the spot all those different types of things
26:12 You're learning stuff about your craft, which is kind of like fun and cool
26:16 I Have that old board by the way
26:19 If you want to do I don't know if you want to do a video on that or what but the JQ with the wire repair
26:24 It's at my place right now. Okay. Yeah, that's that's probably an interesting from scryer boards
26:29 Scrap yard Wars season four. There was a repair that I mean it goes above my head
26:34 I don't understand might understand, but I don't
26:37 There's a a single wire that runs from one fan header to another fan header on a very specific pin on each probably power
26:46 But if that wire isn't bridging those two fan headers
26:50 It doesn't work And if it is then it works perfectly fine and has worked perfectly fine for years like in some cases
26:58 Acting as like a 24-7 server for like months at a time and stuff like had no issues just as long as this
27:06 This wire is bridging these two fan headers and this motherboard made magic smoke at some point
27:10 Yeah, so I I don't quite I can't quite fathom it who knows
27:14 But stuff like that's awesome like I that gets me way more jazzed up than like some random new mother. What's up?
27:21 I can tell oh
27:27 Anyways off that topic
27:30 What are we supposed to be doing Dan? How's it going over there? Oh, he's chill. He's chilly
27:36 Five it out Christmas energy strong
27:43 Headline topic is technically the thing. Yeah, probably that
27:49 It's not ominous, how do you want to approach this? I mean, you're the one that keeps trying to let the cat out of the bag
27:56 I'm not about cats getting out of bags. I keep cats in bags
28:00 I'm like a cat bag kind of guy. I don't think so you leak a lot of stuff on Lancia. I mean, I don't know if you can
28:09 Yeah, but I can use the proportional argument. I thought you many things to leak. I thought you meant literal
28:15 I thought yeah, no, okay. Sure figuratively. Yes. I let a lot of cats out of bag
28:20 All of my actual cats are in a bag right now. Oh, all together. Yeah
28:25 No Um, I braced for the clarification. It's sad that it had to happen, but it didn't have to have it
28:33 the WAN Show is officially as of
28:38 yesterday under new management
28:44 What Well, not really under new management actually the management is the same but the ownership is different
28:53 This is a pretty major change going forward, but I have
29:02 I don't know. I don't know what you would call it, but I I have
29:07 abdicated half of my ownership stake of the WAN Show
29:14 People are saying sold out to
29:18 Mr. Luke. Mr. Luke Lafrenier sold out to me
29:22 It's official The WAN Show is a 50-50 partnership between me and Luke
29:30 We have We have what's it called up? We've incorporated a new media holding company
29:38 adequate media Inc. which owns the WAN Show so technically
29:44 My half of it is actually owned by me and Yvonne because we are one person
29:50 From a legal standpoint, so we own half of the WAN Show and then Luke
29:56 officially owns the other half of the WAN Show it
29:59 We've had a lot of questions over the years about you know
30:02 What is what is Luke's equity stake and and this and that and the answer has always been Linus Media Group was
30:10 founded and seed seeded by
30:13 me and Yvonne and we've owned it a hundred percent, but
30:17 the WAN Show clearly has two people in its soul and one of them is
30:25 this guy, I think that I think that for the WAN Show to
30:31 Continue to be the WAN Show forever
30:34 the only right way to safeguard its future was to
30:39 Have it be a
30:42 Linus Luke Equal partnership So the change then the big change is that
30:49 the WAN Show is is safe and
30:54 That the WAN Show will not change that's the big change well, it is a big change the WAN Show was unsafe
30:59 Well, no, I mean it then it's not a change you and I have talked about it right that you know
31:05 If you took a position somewhere else or that if I
31:08 Retired from making daily tech tips videos or whatever we'd still want to do that. We wanted to continue to do the WAN Show
31:15 But that agreement right it's verbal. It's handshake. It's you know
31:21 We're we're friends But it's not codified
31:27 It's not in black and white. Yeah, there's no actual
31:31 There's no guarantee that we'll be able to put together the correct financial incentives
31:38 to ensure that Whereas now
31:43 It's very clear
31:47 Yeah, and I mean there's still like some people are saying like oh it shouldn't be 5050 because
31:52 Someone should always be able to make decisions and stuff. I'm like, yeah, I mean
31:58 It's still kind of in Linus's hands if we're being real about things
32:04 He still owns Linus Media Group
32:08 The people who basically like run WAN Show operations wise are LTT people LMG people etc
32:18 This is not like yeah
32:21 However, it's very cool symbolically that's today. I
32:26 Don't know what I don't know what our however many years because when we've been talking about WAN Show futures
32:33 We've been talking about like That we want to keep doing this in like 20 years. Yeah plus
32:40 So this is this is a step towards it being reasonable to do this in 20 years
32:46 Exactly. I thought for today You know what will what will probably happen is there will be an agreement between
32:54 Adequate Media Inc. and Linus Media Group that Adequate Media Inc. will promote products and services like
33:02 Floatplane or creator warehouse or it or whatever and then Linus Media Group will find
33:11 Sponsorships and Realistically Luke is still employed as a as an employee of Floatplane and Linus Media Group and and all that stuff
33:19 So for today, there's no change
33:23 But for a potential future where who knows what happens
33:29 This ensures that there is a there's a strong
33:33 Incentive that's not I mean, it's not just financial to right like Luke called it symbolic
33:38 But I think it's more than just symbolic, I think it's I
33:42 think it's Well, those there's the there's the non financial part of it, right? Yeah, do we talk about that?
33:49 I mean sure. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to so go for it
33:53 Though like the the agreement that you're just talking about of like the services and whatnot are supposed to balance things out
33:59 so this isn't like a
34:02 I'm not like looting LMG. No
34:05 No, and and the idea behind it is that that would never happen and the only time that
34:12 The only time that any of this would matter would be if there was a major change to the status quo
34:17 We're just trying to get out ahead of it and make sure that everyone's on the same page that we want to make sure that
34:22 Wanshoe can continue for
34:26 Indefinitely basically however long yeah, yep keep the streak alive
34:29 Yeah, so like effectively nothing is really changing honestly internally or externally
34:36 However starting soon We will start streaming the Wanshoe on a different channel and and on the LTT channel and then over time
34:48 We will eventually some point
34:51 Stop streaming the Wanshoe on the LTT channel and it will move to a dedicated channel either
34:57 We will take over the LMG clips channel or we will create a new channel
35:02 So you guys will have to go subscribe to a new channel in order to get your notification for the Wanshoe live stream and and find the
35:08 VODs and all that Stay the path asks. What about on Floatplane? Don't worry Floatplane streaming is not going anywhere for better for worse
35:19 We were close no, yeah, we'll keep going here. Yeah
35:24 Yeah Okay, does there any is there anything else did people have any kinds of like questions a
35:36 Lot of people asking how this works for Dan Dan still works for Linus media group
35:41 he is a Incredible incredibly valued member of the team
35:47 but from like a You know there at the beginning standpoint
35:52 That that that was Luke
35:56 At this time, but I you know what I really appreciate the community's
36:01 Love of 10 Floatplane chat is
36:06 Dan they what can I say they they love you?
36:10 They love you Yeah, I'm here, too
36:16 All right, should we should we move on to our next topic?
36:22 We've done this is three topics we've done now, but yeah Dan doesn't listen to the show. So what does he care?
36:30 Topics don't care topics don't care about your feelings
36:34 Drones US the US blacklist new foreign made drones from entering marketplace
36:42 No, no, the the oh, yeah the market like basically you can't sell it on yeah new non US made drones
36:50 Cannot be sold. I guess not saying the marketplace makes it sound like Facebook. Yeah, yeah
36:54 No, it's just the marketplace in general The FCC has announced a ban on new foreign made drones and critical drone components citing national security concerns
37:02 Which as an aside kind of makes sense a move that will heavily impact DJI
37:08 Rather specifically which dominates the US drone market the ruling blocks companies like DJI and out-held robotics from
37:16 Introducing new drones in the US through existing model though though existing models are not affected for now
37:22 The FCC says foreign made drones could enable surveillance
37:25 Data exfiltration and disruptive attacks arguing that all future UAS which is just
37:33 Basically UAV but its system instead of vehicle
37:37 all future UAS hardware should be manufactured domestically to reduce risk and
37:43 These are not entirely ridiculous Honestly, no drone pilots and commercial operators have pushed back hard warning
37:50 There are no real alternatives to DJI's affordability and capability industry groups say many businesses could shut down without access to DJI
37:58 Hardware while DJI itself calls the ban anti competitive and claims multiple reviews have found its products secure
38:06 It's I mean, it's definitely anti competitive and there are downsides major downsides for that
38:11 There's that whole thing where like China encouraged Tesla to come into their market to push their own
38:20 Players to be more competitive Basically like invite the big dog in to get your people to act up
38:29 Clearly DJI is already in the States and people are saying there is no alternative. So that's not exactly working stateside
38:36 So I had a chat with my brother-in-law. I've talked about him before
38:41 This is the company that he works for it's pretty cool. By the way, they're
38:47 Basically they're they're building a platform that is designed for
38:52 individual drone operators To be incentivized you can actually kind of see it in this visual here be incentivized to capture high-resolution
39:01 drone imagery for global mapping
39:05 and not just like mapping like like like Google Maps, but more like
39:11 the kinds of high-detail models of our cities and the world that could be used for things like
39:20 Mineral exploration or for
39:23 One of the ones that he brought up for me was like firefighting
39:27 There's all kinds of cool stuff that you cannot do without a a high high-resolution
39:35 Map and there currently is not a practical way to capture that that isn't just
39:42 flying drones with high-resolution cameras over every square inch of the globe and then
39:48 Ingesting all of that data and making it accessible. So that's the that's the challenge that they're working on solving and
39:56 Yeah, yeah, Eleanor Eleanor says
39:59 Spexy is crowdsourced GIS, which is honestly so cool except like except like even better
40:06 It's really really cool tech Anyway, the point is that you know when this announcement hit
40:14 He and I were actually on a beach in Cabo and his phone
40:20 just like Started exploding because
40:24 Because like their entire industry is sitting there going. What do we do now? Yeah, okay
40:32 So we're supposed to use a domestic drone. What fucking domestic drone? What are you even talking about? Yeah, okay? Well, guess what?
40:41 Just like it always is There's a there's a political there's a political angle to it. Oh, is there like some company?
40:50 Is there some company? Oh
40:55 My god, I'm trying to use your website. This is terrible
40:59 Second new board blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah advisory board blah blah etc drone company
41:07 Yeah, of course there of course it is super cool. That makes sense. Yeah
41:10 Yeah, I definitely if we completely ignore that part because obviously
41:16 The what is it that doesn't trump? It doesn't seem obvious to everyone
41:21 It doesn't seem obvious to everyone fair enough, but even if we ignore the clear corruption issues
41:28 I Understand why they would want to do something like this. Yeah future warfare
41:33 Like even if you look just within the confines of the Ukraine war. Oh, yeah future warfare has completely changed
41:40 And it is extremely drone based at this point
41:43 And if you don't have domestic drones and if you're like, yeah our entire domestic drone industries
41:49 Actually just DJI I can totally understand why that would be very concerning. I think there are other ways to solve this
41:56 I think there are ways to incentivize
41:59 You know like stateside drone companies race I don't drone manufacturing without just banning competition
42:06 But I can understand why from a defense perspective
42:09 You would want to make sure that you're protecting not necessarily banning competition, but protecting your own drone manufacturing
42:16 I think there's a variety of ways to do that that aren't banning it The only thing I'm saying is that I understand why they're doing this not that I necessarily agree with it
42:27 Yeah, I think the you know subsidizing promoting doing something to push local drone manufacturing and research would be a good idea instead of
42:37 You know banning competition and then setting up your your family member for an elliope
42:43 I
42:47 Nepotism is pretty cool, though. I guess Anyways next topic
42:51 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like I might have had a no
42:56 I guess I don't really have any more anything more to say about that. We'll
43:00 We'll see how it goes. It's gonna drive up the price of existing models for sure
43:06 it's going to it's
43:09 going to cause a delay in
43:12 The in the quality of available drones in the US compared to other markets where DJI will continue to export and continue to innovate
43:20 Yeah, the mass manufacturing will be the problem people have been able to
43:24 Make drones at home for a long time. I do kind of wonder what this will look like for parts
43:30 Did it mention parts in here?
43:34 Okay, yeah, so critical parts it doesn't just include parts so the FPV community is like losing their minds to
43:42 It's not full drones. It is drones and parts is what you're saying and critical parts. Yeah
43:46 Yeah, so it's like where you're gonna get like a your US made processors and motors and everything
43:53 Yeah, that's That's like yours out. I think
43:57 At the least yeah, we'll see how it goes if kind of ever
44:01 That'll be interesting. We'll see how it goes man
44:04 Actually, this is a this is a good question Is this gonna be is this gonna be as good as the is the is the Trump backed drone company gonna be as good as the
44:14 Trump phone did that thing ever get did that thing ever get delivered?
44:18 Let's have a look here. Oh, yeah, it exists today. What is this?
44:23 Okay, yeah, first ever smartphone is delayed and and the government shutdown is to blame. Oh, okay. Oh nice
44:29 That's good. That makes sense. Why does that make sense?
44:32 What would that have had to do with anything?
44:35 Same coverage as the as the whatever. Okay. Yeah, so they're still pretending that this is gonna be a thing
44:43 Is there still anything on here about it being like made in the USA or is that is that gone now?
44:48 Because at the beginning it really was
44:51 Built for people who expect more. Okay, it seems like they have removed
44:56 They've removed anything about it being American made
45:00 So it looks like there are some Designed with American values in mind
45:07 So they have a refurbished s20. Oh, they have additional phones now. They have refurbished
45:13 phones and then
45:17 Okay, proudly American. What does that mean?
45:21 designed with American values in mind with American hands behind every device
45:28 It is amazing how much you can pretend to say something and
45:34 Not say it. It's brought to life here in the USA
45:39 That doesn't American proud design
45:44 None of that says or means made in the USA none of it
45:50 That oh man I don't even know why they care. I don't even know why they bother to pretend
45:57 Because it's not like anyone's enforcing anything anyway, so they might as well just say it's made in America at this point
46:05 Someone linked to this list. Yeah, the blue list. It's a cleared list of drones, but it says specifically
46:13 It's a cleared list for drones approved for DOW, which I think is Department of War because they renamed Department of Defense
46:20 sure and there's like there are
46:24 Skydio drones and and Other various things on here, but I don't I don't know if this is consumer cleared or if this is just
46:32 Department of War cleared. I'm unsure. It's great kitty kitty says don't try to understand the grift. It's just a grift
46:38 It's like closely inspecting a brown paper bag when you doorstep. You already know what it is
46:45 Yeah, that's fair
46:50 Comical sort of
46:54 Well, we could do a tech house update. Yeah, I was there today
46:58 We took possession Three days ago, and I didn't get a chance to go there until we did our shoot today
47:05 So if you haven't been keeping up there was a video on the LTT channel
47:10 Where we went shopping for a tech house and the idea behind it was pretty straightforward
47:15 We've done a lot of kind of upgrades in in my house
47:20 to the point where my house is fine and We don't we don't oh, yeah, are your auto lights fine?
47:26 No, well, no, but that will that will fix actually
47:30 Invelli's shipment of new lights with millimeter wave detection
47:34 That are gonna be way better and I'm really excited about have lots of fixes compared to the ones
47:38 I'm using now is like in customs clearance right now like I am
47:43 Stoked to finally have the lighting experience that I promised my family years ago. Anyway, that's besides the point right now
47:52 The point is we don't need to make another video of Linus upgrades is living room TV every other month
47:59 my my living room TV is fine and
48:02 So this tech house is gonna give us kind of like a it's almost like a test bench
48:07 it's it's like at the computer test bench of like
48:11 not just smart home stuff because I think there's there's kind of a limited audience for people who are interested in home automation, but also just
48:21 practical deployments of technology whether it's computers or TVs or
48:27 Audio equipment or I mean Okay, do you remember that video that you did years ago on using a projector for like tabletop gaming? Oh
48:37 Whoa, okay. Yeah Okay, bit of a
48:41 Bit of a deep what would what what I wasn't trying to cut anybody no no deep cut means like an old reference
48:49 I don't think it does. I Think it does. No, I think it means like like a wound. What am I trying to think of that? I don't know
48:58 Bit of a deep cut refers to a significant wound that might need medical attention
49:03 No, like the whole chat is saying that I'm right Luke does know this one really. Yeah, it's just slang. Oh
49:10 Okay, I thought I thought it's like I thought it was like a like a like a stab don't twist like that's a bit of a deep
49:16 That's a bit of a deep cut. I'm sure it is also used for that
49:21 Okay, a bit of a deep cut slang meaning
49:26 On the record a deep cut is a song judged to be less commercial or radio friendly I
49:32 Like genuinely the entire chat if there's got to be something to it
49:37 Urban dictionary a song by an artist boomer dictionary at this point only true fans of set artist will enjoy or no
49:47 Okay Song obscure work. Okay. Well, that's clearly closer to your definition than it is to mine. So sure. Yeah. Yeah
49:57 Let's go on boomer dictionary
50:01 Anyway, it's just it's just I don't think that video like did well and it's super old. Oh, yeah
50:06 So it's just a surprise. I don't even know what I would type in to search for it. Yeah, don't worry about it
50:11 The point is that like we we want to we want to
50:16 Use this place as an opportunity to talk about building a sick tabletop gaming space sweet or building a super cool
50:24 Really cool stuff you can do these days. Oh, I know projector game thing has been like very leveled up
50:31 There's there's some really awesome stuff you can do. Yeah, and so so pretty much what we were looking for was a place with really good bones and
50:41 with
50:44 Reasonable ease of use for upgrading them
50:48 Because okay. Yeah, it might have been more realistic for us to find a place that didn't have a crawl space for instance
50:54 Right that we were gonna be ripping off drywall for absolutely every single wire
50:59 We were gonna run stuff like that, right, but that's not
51:03 We're not a home renovation channel. This is our first kind of kick at this can we wanted something that we could
51:14 We wanted something to cut our teeth on so we got a place that not only has a really nice crawl space under the entire main floor
51:23 Which is Sick, that'll be sick for doing this type of stuff. Yeah, it's it's not tall like in order for me to get down there
51:31 I have to be
51:34 Completely almost like like butt down to the ground and that's like here. So you're pretty much crawling
51:40 It's a literal crawl space good name But it also has a it has a little like I think it's called a dormer like it has one room
51:48 That's on the second story in in the front and we're gonna we're thinking we're gonna convert that to like a media room
51:54 And then it has a couple little Crawl pathways along the side of that as well
51:59 So it's got really really good access to getting fishing wiring down or up into wall spaces
52:07 and it's actually This video is gonna be really fun because in the first one
52:11 We just kind of do a high-level overview because we're just touring it because we were shopping
52:15 Whereas in this one we really start digging into some of the really weird stuff the previous owner did
52:22 Like he was obviously In a different way a pretty techie guy. Okay, one of the bedrooms has I kid you not three RJ 11 jacks in it
52:34 There's all like like like a phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's also an RJ 11 jack next to the toilet
52:42 No, okay, that that that was a thing very odd, but yeah, that was I've always thought that's weird
52:48 Yeah, to have a like what happened to my you just unplugged my head. Oh, sorry
52:52 Man, no to have a like a a phone in your bathroom. Oh
52:58 Man What happened?
53:04 It's fine don't worry, but oh that we're good the Wanshoe quality is not going to get
53:13 Yeah, yeah toilet phones were were a thing for sure I I always thought it's kind of
53:19 Pretty unsanitary personally sure yeah putting it on your face. I get it there. I can see both ways. Yeah, sure, but it's
53:28 The three in the bedroom That's interesting. Yeah, I couldn't quite wrap my brain around it. He had a CD player in his kitchen, which I thought was pretty cool. Nice
53:38 Man, there's oh my god, I swear
53:41 Wasn't there like I think I saw in the video you could like play music
53:44 Throughout the house on like the on that CD player. I think so. Yeah one out of every three like like duplex receptacles
53:52 Like power outlets had one of those six gang ones like bolted on to it
53:57 He was a major fan of power strips and extension cords like
54:03 He had that he had an interesting System where you could only run either the dryer the clothes dryer or you could run this extension cord
54:13 240 volt outlet that he had just like coiled up using in-wall wire and just like
54:19 Into an octagonal box like thing that he had in his garage
54:24 So you had like a 240 volt extension cord in his garage that you could not run at the same time as the dryer
54:29 And he had a kind of sick a sign above the dryer in German not to run it at the same time as the one in the garage
54:35 Kind of sick. Yeah, like it's honestly like
54:39 People are saying it sounds bad. I don't know enough about that being like dangerous or not, but it sounds pretty great. Oh, it's it's
54:45 that Let me put it this way. I
54:48 Think this guy's idea of safety first was the four fire extinguishers that he had in his garage
54:54 I
54:59 Rather than just I don't know not starting a fire in the first one
55:04 Like he would just he'd be like, yeah, I'd love to have a cable outside the house
55:09 So I'm gonna just take a big long drill bit
55:13 And go through the wall like that was his way and
55:17 He's got like a shed in the back. He he had a bit of an infestation
55:22 So we found that in the inspection report which Colton did not share with me until after we
55:28 I mean a lot of the place around here bought it and took possession. So anyway, this ain't Alberta
55:33 Yeah, infestation major infestation. His solution was these little
55:38 Noisemakers that you plug into. Yeah, they were like everywhere
55:42 Yeah, I didn't didn't help obviously. Yeah, so I'm kind of thinking tech house cat
55:47 We just get a pet nice and keep it there and then that'll take care of it
55:51 Colton doesn't want to do that though. He wants to like hire an exterminator. I think that's so dumb. I
55:55 Think a cat would take care of any rodent issues around this house like quick styles
56:02 Dude, I don't I don't see. Oh, I shouldn't say that I have seen mice in my house
56:09 They were dead or in a fish tank thing. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those were pets. It was complicated
56:17 They're temporary pets and eventually they were dead. So
56:22 The system clearly works. It did it worked exceptionally well in that case
56:28 Yeah, Linus just wants another cat. I mean
56:34 Yeah, another cat's not a bad thing
56:38 I'm not trying to think what what else is there to say about it Oh, there were some other things that were found in the inspection report that I found out about today
56:45 Yeah, are you saying those? Yeah, sure. Apparently there's particularly bad. Yeah, you know about the foundation issue. Yeah
56:51 Foundation and drainage issues. So oh, I didn't know about the drainage one, too
56:55 Yeah, usually they as far as my understanding goes they often go hand-in-hand, but yikes
57:00 So I guess we're gonna have to I guess we're gonna have to figure that out
57:04 But dude, I'm I'm excited. This does sound like
57:08 Bought a house in Vancouver
57:12 Vibes Not Vancouver, but I'm saying that for the greater Vancouver area public audience, but
57:19 Sort of how it goes a lot of them have infestations a lot of them are old and have foundational problems
57:24 A lot of them have previous owners who just kind of you'll load stuff. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that
57:29 Yeah, unlike Australia where it's like apparently illegal to make improvements to your own house if you're not certified
57:35 You know about this. You don't know about this thing. That sounds annoying. Well, yeah
57:40 But the flip side is that I bet they probably don't have stuff like we saw in this house
57:44 I mean their housing market is just wrecked. So I
57:48 Mean, so I really yeah, so yeah, there's that. Yeah
57:53 Maybe I misunderstood that anyone anyone from upside down land can can verify for me
58:00 Anybody anybody beller? Dylan K. A says I have an illegal back deck in Oz didn't get council approval
58:07 Apparently electrical is a no-no. Yeah says old Tom. There you go
58:12 100% true in some ways. Okay. Yeah, there you go
58:15 Me Gors says would you trust a criminal to fix their own home?
58:19 They're not all criminals. They're just descended from them
58:25 Total different totally different ballgame. Okay, I think that's a good one
58:30 Totally different ballgame. Okay, I don't believe in the sins of the father. Okay, that's not how this works
58:35 So dude this place is like downright scary some of it
58:39 Like I found this bought this like rotten box in the backyard that just had an outlet in it
58:45 That there's no way that it was like watertight and that outlet had one of those freaking six
58:53 This in the yard like why you didn't even have more than one thing plugged into it
58:58 So why he just he just put them everywhere just put them on everything. Oh god
59:04 No, please stop. He just really liked his power. I think James said that he had two built-in Vax
59:11 One that ran to like a couple spots and then one that was running somewhere else
59:14 I didn't actually verify that I didn't I didn't double-check that because it didn't make any sense to me
59:18 But maybe he's right Maybe he's right. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. It's gonna be cool though
59:25 It's gonna be I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I
59:29 As I was walking around half of me was really excited about all the cool projects that we can do and then the other half of me was like
59:36 Oh God have we bit off more than we can chew like it's obvious that there's a couple little things that they did
59:44 Just to prep the place for sale. They they like they just
59:49 Obviously redid the the main bedroom on sweet bathroom like like all modern it has a sliding barn door
60:04 Like they're so that they don't lock any sound they don't lock any smell
60:08 It feels like you're declaring that this door will always be open and then it has the case like just have it be a pocket door
60:14 And then we can ignore it or just have it not be a door I guess. Yeah, that's an option too. Yeah, you could just be like all those hotel rooms that just
60:21 Don't have a bathroom door because apparently, you know, every couple in the world wants to watch each other shit
60:26 Yeah, which I don't I don't fully understand
60:30 Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna yuck your yum or whatever, but like I
60:35 Just don't need it Yum
60:40 So
60:47 Yeah, what was I gonna say about it? Yeah, right, so they redid the main on sweet bathroom and it looks
60:53 So out of place like just completely out of place
60:57 They did like a like a like a granite or marble countertop and then like this new shower of that
61:02 David Pankratz was there today. He was like, oh, that's a Costco shower
61:06 Okay, yeah, and then and so they did that they put in a bunch of new like vinyl plank flooring in some places
61:13 And then they just left the like pink carpet or whatever it is. It was 90s. It was the 90s
61:17 It was a different time. They just left that other places pink carpet was a thing and then they but then apparently the
61:24 inspection report found that It was either the on sweet or it was the the main floor bathtub is just draining directly into the crawl space. Oh
61:35 Yeah So like, huh? They could be it's completely cosmetic. I found a can of paint in one of the closets that just says all walls
61:46 So like classic throw a coat of paint on it redo the main on sweet bathroom
61:54 Put some vinyl plank down Slap some lipstick on this pig and get this thing sold and
62:01 We bought it nice. Yeah, to be fair. I think that was going to be the situation
62:07 For all of the places that you're looking at at that price point
62:11 Yeah, more or less. I mean, no, we did find stuff that was not that much more that was
62:17 Pretty moving ready, but we also didn't want something moving ready. You wanted to work on stuff
62:22 Yeah, we didn't want to go into a place that was perfectly nice. How much was it? Is that disclose throw away a bunch of stuff?
62:28 I mean, I think people could find it easily enough
62:32 So it was actually I don't know what the final I don't know what we paid
62:36 Okay, because I know that we did negotiate because of like, oh, yeah, your foundation has problems and like that can be a pretty big one
62:44 and your and your Like drainage has issues and there's all this stuff. That's not up to code like I think there was a bit of negotiation
62:52 But I think the list price was 1.3
62:55 Okay, yeah, so there's definitely ones there. There's very there's very move-in ready stuff
63:01 Yeah, but this I thought it was like pretty lower than that, but this place has a yard
63:07 Which is not a given around here No, and it's a it's like a reasonable sized house
63:11 You think with the amount of space Canada has that we would make that a thing but nope
63:15 Well, you know, here's the thing right like are you gonna show the map of BC?
63:20 Yeah, I'm gonna show I'm gonna show the map of BC to educate the masses. Yeah, so Canada is really big
63:25 But also the Mercator projector
63:29 Projection makes it seem a lot bigger than it is if you actually look at like like on a round globe
63:34 Okay, it's still really big. It's still really big, but it's also like it's not
63:38 That big like remember remember the news cycle recently those like hey
63:43 Does anyone actually know that Africa is like enormous enormous and that Europe is like not
63:51 Cuz like, you know like Africa is like not that much smaller than like frickin Asia like it's frickin huge
63:58 Like did anyone did anyone realize, you know any of this?
64:01 Do anyone know that Brazil is like frickin the size of the US pretty much?
64:06 Not not quite, but like on a Mercator projection map. They these things do not look right
64:13 Anyway, the point is that while Canada is very large indeed
64:18 I'm just gonna go ahead and put the old
64:23 Mountain rain terrain on here that the top of the top of my
64:27 ography so yeah, here's a big part of our problem
64:31 There is like One that like this little thing tiny flat part of British Columbia
64:40 And and it's just all it's all just
64:44 There's like there's like a little there's a little valley here
64:49 There's another one here The this one's kind of part of the same one and then up here is just here be ice dragons
64:58 Basically for all of this And then yeah, we have some we have some planes that also are full of ice dragons for half of the year and
65:08 then you can kind of you go south enough that it's livable again for a bit and
65:13 Then here be mountains again And more ice dragons
65:26 Yeah, whereas like in America they do they do have mountains
65:33 You know they have a lot of the same problem as us sort of through this area here
65:37 But then they also have just like oh wow look at all this like perfectly flat not infested with ice dragons
65:44 Land that is really useful a lot of wind dragons
65:47 That's true. Definitely wind and and rain dragons. Yeah, they got their own kinds of dragons down there. Yeah
65:58 Oh, yeah, I guess we could do that so yeah excited for tech house it's gonna be great I
66:04 Am not gonna think about it too much right now because I got CES next week, but I'm gonna get back and it's gonna be fun
66:10 How'd you get out of CES anyway? I?
66:16 Was kind of looking at the year and going like okay There's two like CES like shows that are in heavy-contention basically you just want to go to Computex. Yeah
66:26 I'm gonna bring Nick and Lucas
66:29 And we're gonna try to go see
66:33 I'm trying to talk to some brands There's a couple brands that are that are interested in doing this right now, but we want to go see
66:41 You know how we've been doing this like kind of tour of testing and validation and performance testing Labs
66:47 We want to go do that, but also in Taiwan. We want to see how they design and test power supplies like at
66:53 Their actual location. Oh, that's cool do different things like that
66:57 It's Proven a little difficult to get through to companies, but I think it's because we're not super close to Computex
67:04 And everybody's focused on CES right now So hopefully after CES the the conversations will kind of prop up, but I was looking at like
67:13 You know with no sponsor anything for the Labs side bringing down either myself or
67:19 Myself and two others which were the two potential plans and then paying for a flight accommodations
67:25 All that kind of stuff for a week. What am I going to get out of this event?
67:29 Hmm, and it was like nah, I don't know right can maybe swing one event for the year
67:35 Right, and if I can tie on these like potential brand tours of like seeing how these things are performance tested
67:41 He's seeing how these things are designed and whatnot to the Computex one that sounds a lot more valuable
67:48 So I'm going that angle also you just would rather go to Taiwan
67:55 We don't need to discuss that part sure we don't need to discuss it
68:00 Because you know and I know that all of that
68:04 Whatever that I'm hardly listening to not like Vegas, and I might really love Taiwan
68:09 But I think that's irrelevant really really I think my other I might have I might have
68:15 Constructed a scenario where one makes a lot more sense than the other one. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was what
68:20 It might also be very reasonable. Yeah, it might be a plausible even structure plausible you might say
68:28 It might be almost entirely designed to get Nick and Lucas there because I already had mechanisms to get myself
68:33 That's it your justification can be whatever it wants to be. I'm not gonna
68:38 crash out
68:41 What a what a segue dude and what a first merch drop of the year the crash out t-shirt
68:49 Yeah, I guess I can also
68:54 There it is boys you ever have those moments where for like
68:59 Half a second Throwing your laptop across the room feels like a totally reasonable troubleshooting step
69:06 Me too and that's what this shirt is for when your patience is basically gone
69:11 And you're still pushing through it anyway. It comes in tall
69:14 It's printed on our super comfortable blank t-shirts and comes in both regular and tall
69:21 if this shirt feels uncomfortably relatable for you you can get yours at
69:28 LMG.gg Crash out
69:33 So here it is on the global store also available on the US store and it looks a little something like that
69:41 Get it in any size you want and any length you want as long as it's black
69:48 What else do we have for the store this week? Ah, yes
69:51 This is less of a this product is available and more of a this product is coming extremely soon
69:59 Be ready LTT true spec cables are coming these cables are crafted with care
70:08 Built with a strain relief that bends with the cable instead of against it reducing stress where breakage often happens
70:14 We have paired that strain relief with a supple silicone jacket that resists UV damage kinks and tangles and
70:22 the high-speed conductors are Actually here. Can I bring that up on your screen? Yep, and the high-speed conductors are
70:30 Individually shielded to reduce interference and keep your transfers running
70:36 every connection feels effortless and Every performance remains uncompromised whatever the second part of that sentence
70:44 uncompromised performance and We feel that the right cable should fit your setup not the other way around
70:51 So whether you need a short run for your desk or a longer reach that goes across the room
70:57 We will have an option that will work for you each connection type USB A to C and USB-C to C
71:04 comes in 16 thoughtfully chosen speed and length combinations and
71:10 Every cable is clearly marked You might want to give them a little zoom on that for speed and power
71:16 Giving you the confidence to know that the performance you expect is the performance you will get
71:23 You can sign up to be notified once these drop at LMG dot GG slash cable
71:29 Sign up now It is worth noting that you guys might look at that
71:34 15 watts on the one that was on the left and go well that seems pretty weak at a time when you can do up to
71:40 240 watts on a USB cable That's because that has a type A connector at one end and when we say true spec cables
71:48 We mean that we are remaining true to the spec So there are technically products that exist within the USB ecosystem that are not to spec
71:58 Extensions for instance exist, but from chatting with Tynan about it
72:04 They are not spec like there there is no accounting for the connector losses and
72:11 And the and the losses from the length that we're adding to these cables when you plug a cable into an extension
72:18 You just got to like pray to Thor that it's gonna work because that's about your best shot of ensuring that it's going to and that
72:25 Doesn't mean that it won't work. It just means that it might not so we are sticking with whatever the
72:33 We're sticking with whatever the maximum
72:36 official specced power and data transfer is
72:41 Within the USB specification for any given length
72:44 So what you might notice is that our longer cables
72:48 Even using the same connectors at the ends might be rated for a slower data speed
72:54 That doesn't mean that you might not get a better data speed if you happen to have, you know
73:00 really tolerant Devices at either end, but we aren't gonna guarantee it. We're all about true spec on these
73:09 I really like the name personally. Yeah
73:12 Yeah, I think it makes a tiny. I think it makes a ton of sense
73:17 Frosty keogre says the markings nice. I had to sharp your label onto my only 10 gigabit per second capable cable
73:22 Yeah, right like it's so annoying So that was a big part of where this came from is like in my life
73:28 I have a thousand USB cables, but never the one I actually need in a given moment and
73:34 Whether it's that they're not rated for a particularly high speed and I'm doing a big transfer and I'm like
73:39 Oh god, is it faster to go get another cable and restart it or is it faster to just wait for this to finish?
73:44 I don't know or whether you get one of those ones that only has the conductors for charging in it and you like
73:50 You to plug it into your phone and you're like, is it is it my phone being weird?
73:54 Like it's not in data transfer mode or is or okay. I'll go get another device or is it this cable? I don't I
74:01 Just want to eliminate uncertainty from my life. So with the LTT cables I
74:10 Know that whatever I'm holding a type C to type C at this length is whatever the best cable could be for that
74:18 And I'm G to G. So this is this is a longer one. So this is a 20 gigabit per second
74:25 240 watt is trying to show how long I see. Oh, yeah, sure. Why not? I mean, it's gonna go
74:29 So I think this is what a six footer or something like that Looks like it. Oh, it might be a little longer. Yeah
74:35 Anyway, this is the one that I carry around for for charging my laptop and it is worth noting that we are not doing
74:42 Thunderbolt cables at this time. So these are all at most
74:48 USB for VGA
74:52 VGA you don't mean like actual VGA. You mean like display cables, right? Yeah VGA. Yeah, so we're
74:59 So we are not doing display cables at this time
75:04 See how well these go I guess we're gonna see how we got a we're this is something
75:08 I think people often a new segment dude. Uh, speaking of people often forgetting. This is 16 skews
75:14 We are a pretty small company and this is 16 skews. No, this is 16 lengths for each connector type double it
75:20 This is 32 skews Oh, that doesn't that isn't what it sounds like
75:27 Oh, I understand for each connection. Yeah, all right. Wow. So so what a lot of people forget
75:33 Is that in the grand scheme of things? We are actually still a pretty small company. So we need to we're dipping our toes in
75:40 We're gonna start with USB and then we're gonna make sure that people actually
75:45 You know care and are willing to pay for, you know, a silicone jacketed
75:50 Um, I'm gonna be properly shielded high quality cable
75:54 And if people care about that then we would love to explore
75:59 Doing htmi DisplayPort. Um, I was carrying one of these that I stole from tine in
76:05 Um On a bunch of my trips and I'd show it off all the time and people
76:12 Who liked it? It's very nice. Yeah, but just because people like it and just because it's very nice
76:17 Doesn't mean it will be necessarily sell commercially successful So we've really just got to wait and we got to see how it goes and that's how you
76:24 That's how you kind of build. That's how you build a business. That's how you build momentum. What?
76:29 Actually got a merch message asking about display cables. Maybe we want to have a look at that one, too
76:34 Which ones? Uh, asking about display cables. That's what we were talking about this whole time Dan
76:40 No, I mean this has more Specifics if you know what I mean
76:44 Oh, uh, sure. Yeah, why don't we do that merch message then if you guys are oh, right
76:48 So if you want to get notified once these drop because I can tell you that our initial order quantity
76:54 We have no idea which lengths are going to be the big sellers
76:58 We went a little tentative on things So if you want to get what you want to get
77:03 Go to LMG.gg slash cable sign up
77:07 Make sure that you're on the newsletter and you will be notified as soon as these drop
77:11 We have taken our time with this. We have done it carefully
77:16 Done it thoughtfully and I'm actually really really proud of this product. I'm very very excited to launch this super cool
77:23 Okay, so yeah, why don't we why don't we do merch messages? If you're not familiar with the show
77:27 Merch messages are the way that you interact with it instead of just throwing money at your screen
77:32 You throw money at lttstore.com which luke is going to bring up on his laptop right now
77:37 Which is of course a razor laptop laptop partner. There you go. Yep. Yep. Look. This is what their logo looks like when it's upside down
77:49 Anyway, just go ahead add something to your cart maybe our new crash out t-shirt and
77:55 Instead of yeah throwing money at your screen You can throw money at lttstore.com get quality merchandise in return and you can leave a merch message
78:03 So you just add something to your cart go ahead leave a merch message You can color code it however you like you can keep it anonymous
78:09 You can show your first name and last initial and then you go ahead and check out it'll go through to
78:14 producer Dan who will Reply to it or who will just like put it up down here or who will
78:21 Curate it for me and luke to talk about so we'll show you how that works
78:25 Yeah, so I did get one asking about the
78:29 Display cables. Hey there you talked about your cables a few shows back and I was wondering
78:33 What might or would come earlier a DisplayPort cable with a chip or an HDMI cable with the fees and development costs and all of that
78:42 That is such a good question. That is a good question What I suspect is that we'd probably get into HDMI with the fees before we would get into a
78:52 usb cable with a chip
78:55 Although this could come down to what our manufacturing partner has more ready to go because even though this exact
79:05 Design does not exist elsewhere that we are aware of because no one would be crazy enough to build a cable like this
79:12 You're still working with uh, we are still obviously working with a factory that makes cables and they have certain capabilities
79:19 And so if they already have a lot of expertise on the Thunderbolt chip side of things then yeah doing a Thunderbolt chipped
79:27 Cable might make a ton of sense Or if they have a ton of experience on the HDMI side that might make more sense
79:33 Tynan's actually been working with them a little bit. Oh, actually kato s is right
79:39 Um, we they do have a chip, but it's it's not an active cable. So that's the clarification here
79:45 Yeah, pd does require it to communicate with devices. What his capabilities are
79:50 I do appreciate that kato s was like these are true spec. They say they have a thing that means they have a chip
79:55 So When I say chip, I mean a Thunderbolt chip, uh, which we do not have at this time. Why is wrong again headline? Yeah, I know, right
80:05 So it's going to depend on what their capabilities are and it's also going to depend on what the demand is, right?
80:10 Like if every other message coming in is like, hey love true spec cables. I love the ones that I have
80:16 I want HDMI cables. Then yeah, maybe maybe that'll be something that we'll explore
80:21 I would say that The reason that we tackled usb a to c and c to c first is because that's where we see
80:30 The most value for the true spec product philosophy
80:34 In Thunderbolt cables. I haven't had the same
80:39 Problems, um, I haven't had quite the same experience with cables not being what I expect them to be because generally speaking Thunderbolt cables are
80:48 quite max spec cables
80:51 And same goes for HDMI there's
80:55 It's kind of confusing labeling because you know
80:59 4k generally means HDMI 1.4 if I recall correctly
81:04 And then like 4k 60 I think means 2.0 4k 120 and then like or no 8k means 2.0
81:13 I look the point is they have labeling. It's just like kind of stupid
81:18 um And a lot of the time you don't even necessarily need the better one
81:24 Because if it's a short enough run, it doesn't really matter a lot of the time the the older cables will still like totally work
81:31 Other times they won't though and you'll get like weird cutouts and stuff like that
81:36 Like they are digital signals. So um, I would never
81:40 snake oil market these and say like You connect this between your mp3 player
81:45 Or you're you connect between your DAC and your computer and you'll you'll hear the digital bits better or whatever that is
81:52 Bullshit. No, but I've heard like
81:56 I think this was in Floatplane chat or something somebody mentioned that like connecting their laptop and their deck when doing
82:02 DJing sets with like a good quality cable that they can feel like they can rely on more sounds great
82:09 It's not that it's going to be a better quality connection No, but knowing that it will work
82:15 Is and it's going to be thrown in bags and taken back out a bunch of different times
82:19 And they they feel like they can if they can trust it more that has a value to them
82:22 Like that's cool That's a a like fairly mission critical connection that I might
82:28 Understand someone investing more and to be clear. They're not magic, right? Like this is still
82:34 A two-spec usbc connector at the end
82:37 Like if it if it plugged into something and you and you don't put any strain relief and you let like
82:43 Four feet of this cable dangle off of it. Like it's yeah, it's gonna eventually bend
82:47 It'll it'll it'll wear out. Don't be an idiot with your stuff
82:51 right But we've built it to be as robust as we can possibly
82:57 Make it as as mission as bulletproof as we can practically they're still gonna be something that'll fail and yada yada yada
83:02 It's like any product
83:06 I know they feel nice And I have been told that there are cases where a digital cable can be used for analog purposes
83:15 And there was someone who is super into ham radio at that event that we were at
83:20 Do you remember the the LAN at the LAN at the gaming house? Yeah. Yeah
83:25 So there was someone there that was really into ham radio and basically when oh, yeah
83:31 I remember this. Yeah, we use usb cables because of convenience or something
83:37 But we're actually transferring analog
83:40 Um, yeah, I didn't understand that at all But they seemed like they knew what they were talking about and so I basically was like, okay
83:47 And he was like, yeah, I will be the first one in line to buy a bunch of these because those sound awesome
83:54 Yeah, uh, as soon as I was talking about the uh, the high speed lines being individually shielded in there
84:00 So that's why she's that's why she's such a thick boy
84:03 Right Like that's that's a thick cable. We're not selling this as some kind of like convenient
84:10 Lightweight, you know, it no it is I I've used it for like charging my phone in my pocket with a battery bank
84:15 That is a questionable use case for this cable to be honest. Yeah, she's heavy, you know at the time
84:20 It was just what I had but like it's not the best for that you kind of want
84:24 Somewhat of a junky cable to do that job to be honest because you want something
84:28 Little small and light and twistable and then you'll throw it away in a month or a couple months because it will wear out
84:34 And be a piece of junk or you'll just lose it because you don't really care if that's usually my problem
84:39 Yeah, yeah, that's another one Uh, okay, so
84:43 Mystery man 321 in Floatplane chat says my dad does ham radio
84:47 And he transmits a lot of his ham frequencies over VoIP. He would have loved these
84:52 Okay So, yeah, I don't know how that oh, okay. No that I mean that makes sense
84:57 I don't I don't know how you send an analog single signal over usb. That sounds really cool
85:02 Well, I mean usb is just it's just you know conductors touching other conductors. I mean technically could send anything over it
85:09 I understand it's possible clapped k24cord says
85:13 Talking about probably using them as antenna of some description with better shielding
85:19 It is a problem with cheaper ham antennas
85:22 using for antennas This is an entire realm of things that I know practically nothing about
85:29 Yeah Okay
85:33 Interesting Uh, yeah, me neither
85:37 me neither Uh Elinor is asking about
85:42 like old 40 pin iPod cables
85:46 Oh, yeah, that is not in the plan. Yeah. No, not in the plan
85:52 um Yeah, golden sound says you say you're not marketing it for sound quality purposes
85:57 But as someone deep in the audio hobby, I'd gladly play for a cable that just works
86:03 Uh, I spend a lot of time testing measuring audio gear and crappy usb cables are a plague
86:08 Is that the golden sound? Oh, I don't know am I?
86:12 Uh, oh, did I just did I just do that thing where I get into an elevator with a celebrity and I don't realize who they are
86:17 I mean, I think so Oh crap. Whoops
86:22 Yeah, I'm assuming this is the the golden sound
86:26 Whoopsie doodles. That's cool. I mean that's super cool. That's that's good to hear
86:34 Is this a dcc squad represent
86:40 Yeah, that's that's the main thing I've heard from audio people so far like that the the dj thing I referenced, right?
86:47 Yeah Is like it's not
86:50 It's not going to make it sound better But if these are high importance cables, you might want a good one
86:58 I don't know. I don't personally often have usb cables fail. Um, oh, I don't
87:03 I have it happen pretty regularly, but okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not I mean, I'm not saying that they don't
87:08 It's also hard to tell when they do sometimes. That's a good point. Oh, I mean the whole it's oh man
87:13 It's been interesting. Wendell has a video on Floatplane. I don't think it's out on youtube yet on what is going on with
87:20 dr5 and he doesn't mean in terms of pricing
87:23 He means in terms of like overheating and like having weird problems and stuff like that very interesting very cool video
87:32 Is this uh, is this what's going on with like the Threadripper pro platform and stuff?
87:37 I think it's related to that. Yeah, I don't see it on youtube yet. Okay. Yeah, kelp from falcon northwest was
87:42 Talking to me about that as well. So then it's got to be that because he mentions kelp in the video
87:46 It's a fantastic video watch it on Floatplane. If you had if you're not a float, basically
87:50 Eventually to solve one of the problems that kelp was running into on one of his workstations
87:55 He had to he had to reinvent the dominator airflow. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is this is that for sure
88:02 So like this this stupid thing is uh,
88:07 Hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna find it. It's super cool now because I think it's level one tech
88:10 Maybe it was this stupid thing is coming back. Yeah
88:13 Yeah, buddy, but it's 3d printed now Well, okay. Yeah, sure, which is awesome
88:18 But like it's cringe that we need this stuff But there were several generations of dominator airflow
88:24 I don't want to spoil the video because it's Windows work But it's a fantastic video and it explains why we might need this stuff coming back
88:30 And like how this could even potentially happen and like the design philosophy and the steps of it and all
88:36 amazing video, but um It is it's interesting because it reminded me of Linus torvolds
88:43 In the video with you Talking about how like oh, you know, maybe a lot of problems that Windows is blamed for is actually just people having bad RAM
88:53 Um, so I don't know. Yeah, maybe there's something going on with usb cables
88:57 I'm not going to step in and and pretend that I know a lot about
89:00 um usb cables my primary use case for them is charging my phone so
89:07 I don't know I see a lot of people in chat just talking about everything from dj-ing to uh, like capturing, um to
89:19 What else the people what else are people talking about? Yeah, this is so this isn't them in your truck
89:23 Oh, that was a truck one is a big one That was a big part of the reason that we went with silicone
89:28 Because I don't know about you guys, but my Android auto cables
89:33 This is exactly I talked to my brother about this and my brother does a lot of mods to his truck
89:38 And I was talking about like yeah, I don't think you're going to be like replacing all your cables with this
89:43 But if you were like replacing your infotainment system and you needed a cable that was going to be in the back
89:48 And you just never wanted to have to go replace it
89:51 This might be a use case especially if it's going to get any sunlight
89:54 And again, it's not magic. We didn't make magic here
90:00 You know, if you if you freaking, you know, close your door on it or something and it gets kinged like it, you know
90:07 It can break But we did want it to be very resistant to uh to UV
90:15 Yeah, and yeah, someone responded
90:18 It's not often a cable fails when deejaying, but you need a solid cable because well if it fails the show is temporarily over in your f
90:26 Not worth risking it over a five dollar cable. Um, well, hey good news. This won't be a five dollar cable
90:33 I don't know if we have uh, I don't know if we have pricing
90:37 It won't be that yet, but it won't be five dollars. I can five pound. I guess I technically said I can guarantee it
90:45 True spec XLR when Um, see XLR is one of those spaces where again, and maybe this is ignorance on my part
90:53 But I just didn't really feel like we were needed as much as we were in
90:57 I suspect there are probably more available
91:01 Higher quality cables in that space already than the usb space. I mean, I would guess I have no idea
91:07 I mean, maybe but I've also think there's been like a heavy
91:12 heavy sort of commoditization commodification of
91:16 Even like professional cables over the last little while like people are also saying they build their own XLR
91:20 Which I do believe is a thing. Oh, I think Dan built a bunch of the XLR cables around our studio. It's even there
91:26 Oh, he's not even there Okay, yeah, so I'm sure that if we ever did do a true spec XLR cable
91:34 Dan would be happy to tell us what we need to do to do it, right?
91:37 Mogami gold dual twisted pair. There you go. That's apparently the one he likes
91:44 But that's That's uh, that's a completely separate conversation for the future. Yeah jam mesh says very hard to find quality usb cables on amazon these days
91:55 Yeah, the enshrification of amazon has become like kind of a problem
92:01 because other places to buy things have been just decimated by amazon's dominance and
92:08 amazon hiking up their seller fees storage fees
92:13 fulfillment fees and Advertising fees, which you have to pay if you want any exposure for your product whatsoever
92:20 Has basically created an environment where the only products that can survive on amazon that have enough margin on amazon are
92:29 Super super high margin products, which is just another way of saying super low cost and high price
92:35 B
92:39 Sure, we could do more topics You want to pick a topic?
92:43 You wanted you wanted a new topic you pick it. Oh, should we do sponsors? I feel like oh wait. No
92:48 That was I for sometimes I forget that what we're talking about is promoting LTT Store and it's not like a topic
92:54 Was that an LTT Store? It was. Yeah, it was and uh merch messages went on for so long
92:59 We just ended up talking about cables Yeah, sorry. Oh, wait. No, we're still supposed to do another merch message, Dan
93:04 I think we'll probably do another topic now. Oh, sure. Okay. Sure. You want to pick one? Sure
93:10 What's apple got for us? Oh, this is cool. Luke. I thought you would like this. You've been thinking of switching over to iphone
93:19 What you have Uh, I mean, that's technically true. I guess. Yeah, I have considered it
93:25 I don't think it's gonna happen, but I have considered it. I need to prove my humanity pretty quick
93:28 Hey, did you see those weird captures that people were posting for our websites? Yes
93:35 Okay, I guess that's all the information we're getting about that. I don't know. I'm assuming that's the Shopify thing
93:38 Oh, okay, interesting. It wasn't our websites. It was LTT Store got it
93:43 So this is cool reminders on iOS in in iOS 26.2 is getting a new feature for urgent reminders
93:51 This was posted on reddit by alex aguero lion
93:57 You can mark a reminder as urgent and get an alarm when it's due
94:05 You can snooze it if you can't get it to it right away. This feels like such a low lift. Why isn't this on Android?
94:11 Everything should have this. In fact, this should be the default behavior. Why would I say?
94:15 Why would I set a reminder that I don't care about that? I don't care
94:20 Like it drives me insane Why would I set it at a specific time if it doesn't need to be done at that time?
94:27 And if it needs to be done at that time, why would it go away before I have acknowledged that I have seen it?
94:33 And you can literally put labels on alarms in your clock app
94:38 So you can name alarm events in your clock app, but it doesn't connect with your calendar
94:42 Why would that not be a thing? Because then if I if I name an event in my clock app
94:49 Then it's not on my calendar So I don't see it coming, but I do get the alarm for it
94:54 And then you're just making me do it in two different spots, which is silly
95:01 Anyway, shout out apple for doing it. That's actually really cool. Yeah, I thought this was like gonna be a
95:07 A meme topic. We're making fun of it, but no, I never looked into it
95:12 Never looked into it Bean man says isn't that already how it works on Android? No. No
95:18 Cool. All right. Uh next topic. I want to talk about this one because I have thoughts actually we'll see how this goes
95:24 Apparently samsung reminders can do it, which I haven't played around with I will have to do that
95:28 I'm a pixel bro. So I have no idea. I'm on samsung right now. Actually. I'm really enjoying the fold seven
95:38 Cool 20% of videos shown to new
95:42 Oh, it's new youtube interesting to new youtube users is a islop apparently there's a study that that found this
95:50 It suggests that we try it in an incognito tab
95:53 I thought why don't we do a fun little casual experiment? Would this make us a new user a non scientific experiment?
96:02 I mean it seems to think we are a new user. Is this seriously what this is how it goes
96:09 This is on ironically how it goes. This is the first time accessing youtube experience. Yep
96:16 Try I have experienced this recently. This is how it goes try searching to get started. No, I won't
96:23 No, you uh, you will I I bet you can go on shorts. I bet you shorts will work
96:28 Yeah Okay
96:34 All right, is it a islop or not? I don't want to do all shorts. Uh, this does not seem like a islop
96:41 Um, I would technically have no way of knowing for sure
96:46 um I
96:54 Mean it doesn't have to be a i to be slob. Yeah, what?
97:01 Oh my god, who cares um shorts suck dude
97:12 Okay, what is this is this a new shorts format the square
97:17 Like is this and is this thing on the left just like subway surfers like yeah, it must be
97:26 Okay, no this is an ad
97:34 Sick dude, this is line dancing. I don't know but it's pretty good
97:41 Um This has so many filters on it that it's hard to tell the difference between this and a i
97:54 Uh, I like literally can't really tell the difference
98:02 That looks real that's clogging. Okay. Sure. It's this thing again these big ones. It's this thing. So there's just like
98:09 That's interesting. It's just like kind of oddly satisfying stuff on the left and there's a blur between it
98:15 Yeah, and they've they've all had blurs between it
98:21 So the idea is just that you
98:30 Okay
98:33 My my brain just kind of hurts right now
98:36 You know what I got to say I it doesn't seem like
98:40 I'm not seeing a ton of AI. I'm not This could be obvious not obvious AI slot
98:47 I I mean, there's definitely AI power filters filter garbage. Oh, this is sponsored. Okay, so that's an ad
98:56 This is not gonna be
99:00 AI sloppy there. Okay. All right So
99:05 So we didn't get much but we only looked at shorts. Yeah, we only looked at shorts
99:09 Okay, if I go back. Oh, hey, look at this If I go back to home now, you've looked at shorts. So now you can see it. Yeah, okay
99:16 So That's not slop. Nope. Well, it's not AI
99:21 Brian trehan is I actually don't know are his videos good. I have no idea. Okay. Cool
99:26 I opened a fake mcdonald's drive-through Slop
99:29 I mean that logo looks like AI. Okay, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay ad
99:35 Um, we didn't get any in the shorts, but as far as my understanding goes there's an incredible amount in shorts
99:41 Yeah, is that outdoor boys again?
99:44 What's outdoor boys? Let's go Oh this okay, let's go. Okay. So that's real not a I slop ad confirmed not a I slop
99:53 So is this really not getting 20% So here's a question
99:59 I mean, okay
100:03 This is this is AI I've seen these before
100:06 Uh, this just like crap hits a window
100:09 Uh, garbage got it. Okay. So that's one
100:14 That thing on the end with the boba tea thing Definitely might be but I don't think we should click on it to check. Really? I don't know. I think we should click on it to check
100:25 Um
100:33 I don't know dude
100:37 It looks like probably to me. Yeah, I think this is probably. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yep that last one. Yep. Okay
100:44 Okay, so in this one We're at 40% AI slop right here
100:49 Short shorts in in my interpretation, which I have a thing that blocks shorts now
100:53 But shorts were a lot of it especially I started getting into
100:57 Some uh, some warhammer lore stuff while I was working on things just listening to it
101:01 Yeah, and there is an incredible amount of AI voiced AI art warhammer stuff, which is
101:08 unfortunate So I was actually about to say I do wonder if
101:13 Part of the reason that new users are getting shown such a high percentage of AI slop
101:19 Is that and this is going to break your brains
101:23 That's what they click on and enjoy
101:29 Because we can see here that while there is clearly AI slop that's just going to be shown to you immediately on the platform
101:36 I'm also wondering when this study happened because if it was around christmas time
101:40 I don't know when the study captured its data Um, I know it came out sort of around christmas time. Yeah, saturday 27th of december
101:50 A lot of the like ulog videos were very clearly AI slop
101:55 Like one that we saw had it was snowing in the fireplace
102:01 Because it was snowing outside out the window and it was also snowing snowing in the fireplace
102:05 The really frustrating part about that is that the greatest ulog video
102:10 Already exists. So it's not necessary for any new ulog videos to be made. We were talking about this before the show
102:17 I think there are I think there is one critical error and one minor error with this video
102:25 This is the only ulog video that you'll ever need the actual video itself
102:29 I think there is yeah one critical error one minor error because it is available in 8k
102:36 Meaning that it is ready for any future tv you may ever own
102:41 Quality quality ulog video the the
102:46 Oh, my sick brain can't think of it right now. Good because this is the denison Linus things the stockings the stockings are very out of place
102:57 No, they're exactly where they belong. No, they're weird. They're in the perfect place
103:01 And if you criticize this ulog video, you're basically
103:05 No, they're weird. You're you're basically saying that the slot videos need to exist. Nope. Yep. No, that's basically it
103:12 No, so there's no christmas music on it. There's just crackling fire, which is pretty sick
103:16 But for people that want christmas music, that means you need another thing playing the music
103:21 Which might be okay. We worked around that We did we bluetooth pucked the receiver
103:27 And played christmas music and then had that on the tv
103:31 But every single time I've put it on someone has commented that the stockings are weird
103:37 Every single time I put it on I'll tell you what here's what we could do
103:41 And every place that I've gone that has had a ulog video playing and I'm like, hey, there's this better one
103:46 I can put it on they go. Oh, but it doesn't have the music and I'm like
103:50 And then that was worth fixing at my parents place with the bluetooth puck blah blah blah, but it's not necessarily even really possible elsewhere
103:56 These are my concerns
104:00 All right, I'll tell you what I'll tell you what okay, we get ai to generate us an eight hour christmas
104:07 And we get ai to generate us a new stocking And then you'll be happy like I understand the music licensing is like a huge problem
104:14 Which is why isn't there and personally I actually really just like the firecracking. Yeah, this is quality
104:19 I think it's great. This is this is as nature intended
104:23 But the people have spoken and they want music and this has been a problem for me
104:27 I feel like I'm gonna have to start having like a default kit that I go to christmas events with that has bluetooth pucks in it
104:33 No, it's the children that are wrong
104:37 I I couldn't be the one who's out of touch the stockings though. I get it the stockings are pretty weird
104:42 The stockings are a little weird. I think stockings are pretty weird. Yeah, well and you could technically solve that
104:47 With ai you I mean you could also solve it with not ai because you could just like basically
104:53 Sticker on a stocking on top of it. We could we could do that. Yeah, we could do we could do different stockings
104:58 We could put some music on it or or hear me out
105:02 We already spent enough money on this stupid weird project
105:06 I shouldn't say stupid. It's actually pretty sick because the pitch the pitch was kind of brilliant
105:13 At the time youtube was heavily rewarding watch time
105:16 Both in terms of ad sense and in terms of like channel promotion
105:20 So it was this was a james initiative. He was like
105:23 We should do a tech you'll love. I think it's awesome. I'm very happy that we have one
105:27 We'll do the highest resolution you'll log ever and I was like
105:31 Fantastic, let it never be said that I don't
105:35 You know provide the support that's needed for out of the box projects
105:39 Go for it. And so we made it. I think it was him and brandon that basically like camped out there for eight hours
105:45 Stoking the fire and recording this making sure that like an awesome that the camera media kept getting changed and stuff
105:51 Partway through the video a log falls out of the fire. Oh, yeah, there's there's some stuff that happens
105:56 There's that you can see some like spikes in the video timeline because people clearly
106:01 Scrubbed through it to find it. So I went to the biggest one which I think is
106:05 Is when it happens The video is so long that like trying to snipe the right timestamp is going to be tough. Oh, yeah 100%
106:12 I don't know. I don't know when it happened
106:19 And this is probably sort on you know tape somewhere for most of the year
106:23 And then makes its way to the to the edge servers. Uh, oh, you know what there's probably someone in the comments has it
106:31 Pretty much guarantee that. Yep. Oh, okay. Hold on back to your laptop. Oh, well, okay. We missed it luke
106:39 It's okay Wait
106:42 Okay, just wait. I'm waiting. Just wait. I'm waiting. Wait. You need to have patience. I have patience holiday season
106:49 There it goes. Oh, yikes Bang and it starts smoking like crazy
106:54 And then our hero Enteres left, I believe. Yeah, I think that's where he was sitting
107:02 And this is why we needed to make sure we were supervising this
107:07 Yeah, oh my god that took a while to figure out what to do
107:11 Just in case you thought this wasn't a real
107:14 An actual fireplace real you log video. Yep
107:18 Um, but one of the logs fell out. So yes, it is And if you never see a you'll log video where another log falls out, I pretty much guarantee you as ai trained on us
107:28 Yeah Um, there's all like there's a dog that wanders around every once in a while stuff
107:33 Wow, he really takes his time. They really burnt in there
107:36 I Assumed he was just off camera like reading a book or something, but
107:45 I've never actually I'm skipping forward seen this to see how long it takes to
107:50 Are you a full minute? Oh, yeah further in
107:55 Whoa Is he even like the kitchen or the bathroom or something?
107:59 I've brought up where he picks up the log, but I always scrubbed to find it
108:02 I didn't check the comments because I'm dumb. So did he just wait for it to go out?
108:06 Yeah
108:09 Wow, I am getting Quite far into it being down there. Yeah. Yes. That is an evga card on the left
108:16 Wait, are you just queuing up the skip? Has it actually skipped?
108:21 Oh, no, okay. It usually skips instantly. Yeah. Okay. All right. Wow. I'm I'm mesmerized
108:27 I want to know what's going to happen. You can actually see the skipping in the fireplace
108:31 Yeah, you can if you're good. I guess I'm just not. Whoa, dude
108:36 I need to get good. Whoa, dude. Come on
108:39 How many minutes into this are we? I mean, I guess if it's clearly not lighting anything on fire, then if you don't have like 58 someone saying a big grabber
108:50 We're jumping way ahead. Okay
108:54 Oh boy It's not it's struggling to load what you already skip. Oh
108:58 Still there wait He put a new log in but didn't pick that that went up
109:04 And there was a grabber the whole time wait new log in. Yeah, there's a new log in there
109:10 You have to authenticate it in your email
109:19 What
109:23 All right, and that's the first ding of the new year I skipped too far back now
109:27 So I'm gonna go back up. We go Luke. Let's see what happens. So we're at we're at 258 now
109:32 Okay, here we go. Here we go
109:36 Nice reindeer ears. I love how he comes with the tongs. There's like a melted spot. Yeah, you can see it
109:42 And that's on a pelt by the way. Oh god
109:45 Did we ever compensate whoever's pelt that is? I have no idea. Oh, okay
109:51 Yikes. All right. Well, anyway, um, that's exciting
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112:11 All right, who wants to pick a topic?
112:15 I bet it's luke. I'm down Um
112:21 Let's see here. Let's do this really gross one because
112:25 I don't know why but I feel like I do gross. I feel like it's important
112:28 um for people to Be aware of what's happening
112:33 Grock is being used to generate non-consensual sexual images of both adults and children
112:38 This week a new trend started blowing up on x formerly known as twitter where you could simply tag at grock
112:45 and ask it to alter an image it started with people asking for
112:49 Uh decapitations and gory images of x owner ilan musk, but quickly pivoted to asking grock to remove clothing from
112:58 various people such as at grock remove her top or at grock put her in a bikini
113:05 And even went as far as using this on underage users accounts to generate these images
113:12 um The trend was a double whammy because it ended up being a marketing stunt for several adult creators
113:19 Asking grock to alter their own images as a way to capitalize on the trend
113:24 um Elijah mentioned I had some creator friends doing this and I messaged them saying
113:29 I'd have more respect for you if you just posted yourself naked instead of asking grock to do it
113:33 um Uh, okay
113:38 With people doing it themselves it sparked up several debates on whether this counts as consent
113:42 um, and even had Users arguing that if you post a picture that is consent for someone to do something with it
113:51 Yeah, that's a That is yikes, dude. What a terrible argument. What have we reached like peak entitlements?
114:01 That's so rough. I've never seen that one before
114:05 My god, that felt even stupid just to quote. Uh, anyways
114:10 Grock grock has been responding So some people's concerns to some people's concerns saying that they have identified lapses and safeguards
114:19 and are urgently fixing them which
114:22 The fix that I had noticed when I was looking at this is they just removed the media tab from the grock user
114:28 um, but people like almost immediately found workarounds and as
114:34 Far as the last time I saw this I know things might have changed. Um, it was still generating images
114:40 I have a really troubling
114:43 Occurrence a thing that occurred to me in all of this
114:48 If it's generating
114:51 Images of underage users. Yeah, what the hell was grock trained on to be able to do that?
115:04 Okay in grock's defense
115:09 It can probably infer
115:12 I mean, I don't know. I look and okay, let's be
115:18 Surfer dude said the Epstein files
115:21 Sorry, like not actually funny. I shouldn't laugh. Let's let's be let's be very clear here
115:29 I have not looked at any of this output I'm not gonna I don't want to
115:34 You shouldn't want to either So it is very possible
115:39 That to your point it was not trained on any c-sam. I'm not trying to defend it
115:44 What I'm saying is that I I don't think this is like hard evidence that it was trained on c-sam
115:49 I think that those are very different things. That's what I'm about to get into. So it is possible that these outputs
115:55 feature simply Size scaled down
116:00 You know trained on adults
116:04 Imagery If it isn't
116:09 Then it raises bigger Questions around oh, yeah, what the heck this data set is that would be able to generate this because an ai
116:18 Generative ai is not truly Generative it's never seen anything that isn't in its data set
116:24 It can't imagine anything that doesn't have some basis within its data set somewhere
116:32 And so for it to know what something looks like it has to have seen some manner of reference image
116:40 Generally speaking and people in full plane chat are saying I think we've heard stories of c-sam being found in other
116:45 LLM training sets. I I don't know. I know nothing about this. This is not a topic. I'm deeply researched on
116:50 I'm just saying that it it being able to at least attempt that does not just automatically mean that it was
116:59 And that that is honestly irrelevant of whether or not it's been found in other data sets or not
117:06 So yeah, and there's a couple of other things like I don't I don't know if this is true
117:10 But insomniac says that the the database was apparently the twitter media database
117:16 Which to their knowledge was never purged after elon bought it and could contain
117:25 I mean whether it was purged lord only knows what after or not it could potentially contain that
117:31 Um, I'm not saying it doesn't I'm the only thing I'm saying is it doesn't guarantee that it does
117:36 That is it This is not that deep of a statement laws earth says I have a little knowledge in the medical space
117:43 And there's medical imagery of humans of all types
117:46 I Mean that does make sense. Yeah, but not what it was for no
117:53 Is it trained is grok trained on medical imagery almost certainly
117:57 I don't know. I mean, yeah, you ask an ai like what's this rash? How how the f*** would it know if it doesn't have medical imagery in it?
118:04 That makes sense
118:08 Yeah, rough, uh Yeah, the person who broke this news to me
118:15 um Is rather against
118:18 Generative image and video I don't know if they want to be named or not. So i'm chilling. Maybe if they're watching they'll ping me and let me know
118:25 Um, but the the person who broke this to me
118:32 For I know they're extremely against this. I don't think they're exactly searching for fun
118:38 Uh, but their concern which after reading a couple articles on this
118:42 I share their concern pretty strongly is the articles are too
118:47 Very valid reason scared to show the stuff
118:52 And through text Really doesn't get across how bad it is
118:56 And this was one of the problems that they had so they had some examples of things. Um
119:02 Not quite what you think. There's a lot of those had been removed
119:05 So it was like links to a thread where it very obviously happened because you could see the person's request still there
119:11 And then you could see a response from grok that had been deleted
119:14 So the response is there, but it's like the content has been removed or whatever
119:17 So there's like a bunch of that like all over the place. Clearly people are
119:23 Creating throwaway accounts doing these requests getting the image probably saving it and then the image is being removed afterwards
119:31 um, there is a huge amount of of adult content creators doing this in a
119:39 Um self-promoting way as elijah pointed out. There is also a huge amount of this being just
119:45 Oh, I don't know basically like any woman on the internet
119:49 Um is getting tagged to get altered in some way. Obviously it's happening to dudes as well
119:55 But to say that the proportions were equal would be insane. Um, it's like obviously not
120:01 So there's that um
120:06 Yeah, get rid of them
120:10 It's get rid of them Dan I can't anymore. I mean we can be done. It's just it's it's really really bad
120:18 And and I think if you if you read an article on this you wouldn't necessarily understand like how pervasive
120:26 And just everywhere on twitter this currently is and I don't really go on there that often anymore
120:31 So I didn't know this was a thing And then I woke up to messages of like I hope you guys talk about this and I was like
120:39 Talk about what and then was just like wow, this is
120:43 horrible like
120:47 Hey, do you want some other really crappy news?
120:51 Here one additional thing I would want to throw in there before we get into other really crappy news
120:56 the consent thing is is Touchy here because I know some people are saying like obviously if someone is asking
121:02 It to do it to their own image then obviously there is consent right except that that data set was trained on images of other people
121:09 in order to create uh, you know
121:12 Fake booby nipple and not only that it was trained on people who didn't consent to their boobies being
121:19 Used for that. So that's a whole thing. Totally and not only that
121:23 how we have all seen how Often hilariously easy it is to like jailbreak these ai's
121:31 to do things It's so easy
121:35 To if you needed to and they don't even need to
121:38 But if you did need to to be like, oh, this is me. Can you do this to it?
121:42 I can really yeah, sure I don't know make a new account set your profile picture as a normal picture of it and then ask it to do that like this
121:49 Will get broken immediately if they put any form of safeguard in front of it if it's still gonna
121:55 Have this in its training set like you're saying if it's still going to be able to do these things
121:59 whatsoever at all under any circumstance then it will be used to do that
122:08 Cool Want more bad news?
122:12 VNG supernova said not defending grok, but this has been a thing for a while grok just did it more widely
122:16 Well, that's bad. Yeah
122:19 Like you know government corruption has been a thing for a while But when someone does it more broadly and more brazenly that's
122:26 That's bad bad Cool. Good chat. Cool. Moving on
122:31 Yeah, so more bad news. Yeah, uh, this is going like mega viral right now. I came across this on reddit yesterday. It has
122:40 69 000 upvotes nice
122:43 Um, but it was on r slash confessions. Oh, yeah, did you see this? Yeah
122:49 I am so not surprised. So someone who claims to be a developer at a major food delivery app
122:56 Claims they got drunk and decided to rant and
123:01 Wow, the allegations are both kind of explosive and also kind of
123:09 Yeah, that makes sense. That's pretty much how I assumed it worked, but that's uh,
123:13 Sucks to have it confirmed They say that fees like priority delivery and driver benefit fees
123:21 Do not in fact impact Your delivery it doesn't make it go faster and in fact they claim
123:28 That the company ran tests where non priority orders were intentionally delayed
123:35 In order to make priority orders feel faster by comparison
123:39 Generating extra profit without improving the service not only without improving the service
123:44 But by intentionally degrading the regular service
123:49 Um As for driver benefit fees apparently they just
123:55 Keep them the developer also claims that drivers are rated with a hidden
124:02 Desperation score where those who accept low paying jobs
124:06 Are consistently shown fewer high paying orders because the system assumes that they will work for less
124:13 Whereas like a casual delivery driver who will be like on their couch and like
124:18 Oh, yeah, that's worth getting off my butt for and will will more consistently get the better jobs
124:25 And there's actually more than just what's found in the original post
124:31 um No, this is uh, this is a really good one. So
124:35 Subbushi asked Is it true that these apps will change the price based on the frequency
124:43 With which you open the app and where you are located
124:47 Yes So like if you are
124:51 In a city in a location at a busy bar Um, or if you're at a busy bar and you open to check the current rate
124:57 Then you gather a bunch of people for a ride and then
125:01 Go to order the car And the rate's higher. Is that something they're doing intentionally? The answer is
125:07 Yes Question two I noticed there are major deals sometimes and I feel like I'm getting a great price
125:14 But then suddenly there's like a charge at the end for like a weight fee or something
125:19 Um, and I feel like those charges are higher on orders that I have discounts on
125:25 Yes to both Yes to both things. That's a thing
125:36 Yeah, well, let me have a look regarding tips. We're essentially doing tip theft 2.0
125:43 We don't steal them anymore because we got sued instead. We use predictive modeling to dynamically lower the base pay
125:51 So if the algorithm predicts that you're a high tipper and you'll likely drop like 10 bucks
125:57 It will offer the driver like two dollars in base pay Okay
126:03 Why is everything so predictably cartoon villain evil luke?
126:11 Yeah, like how how hard would it be to build a system that's just sustainable for everyone?
126:21 Is it Is it that hard?
126:25 For food delivery apps. Yeah Is it just it could it not be done?
126:31 Yeah, I don't think so I don't think it can personally I can explain why
126:36 um No, I'm saying that I I think I do know actually and that I don't think it can be done. Um, my argument is that if
126:47 For what I've heard of the economies of scale of these companies. It's actually surprisingly expensive to run
126:52 I don't understand why necessarily uber apparently became profitable for the first time
126:57 in 2023. This is my point. Yeah, okay carry on and they did so
127:02 From my understanding largely through these like very abusive
127:06 mechanisms So if they're going to be profitable also known as worth anyone's time working on it at all
127:15 um Then they're either going to need to charge a bunch more
127:19 Or they'll have to screw over their drivers and if they charge a bunch more
127:23 They won't be competitive on the market and we know as consumers
127:28 That this is actually a lot less important to people than
127:33 burrito taxi three dollars cheaper
127:36 Right, so so I guess what you're saying is that there is no there is no magic burrito ferry
127:43 And so if you want someone to drive like half an hour to go get a burrito
127:49 And you don't expect to pay them a living wage, which um, I actually I I was looking up with the current vancouver
127:58 living wages for 2025
128:02 so according to living wage bc
128:05 Which is the resource that we use to determine our internal minimum wage
128:10 So we don't use like the bc minimum wage. We use the the living wage for metro vancouver
128:16 Um, so that is 27 dollars and 85 cents, which means that before any profit whatsoever
128:24 before any vehicle expense before any
128:29 tipping before
128:33 Anything you would have to pay. What does this work out to about?
128:37 Uh, $14 you would have to pay $14 for your burrito delivery
128:43 Assuming that the parent company made nothing and there was before those things why before those because they're going to drive for half an hour
128:51 So before you even account for any of that stuff just the labor alone you would have to pay $14
128:56 Then separately you will have to also be able to cover like any depreciation of the vehicle fuel expense
129:02 So that's going to drive it up even more And then if the company running the service wants to make anything then it will be even more than that
129:09 And I think we all know That no it's not 20 dollars for a burrito delivery. So somehow they have to do it
129:18 Or somehow they have to make it an amount that you're willing to pay
129:21 There's definitely more to this like kato s is saying you can you can do more than one food delivery per drive
129:26 Yeah, but also there's overhead like you got to drive you got to drive back somewhere at the end of the day
129:33 Yeah, no for sure. I I think your point is prudent. Um
129:38 It's rough food delivery apps are brutal
129:43 Kind of for everyone involved. I think you could argue even the person receiving
129:48 Yeah I mean, it's just it's like it's a bad model, right? It's almost like
129:54 We figured out grocery stores Like a really long time ago, which I very smart very efficient
130:01 Yeah, and then we were like, you know what you know what fuck grocery stores
130:06 Yeah No, I think they're pretty good still actually. No, I I genuinely generally think they're pretty good too. Yeah
130:15 Oh Undercutting the stores. I don't even know what that necessarily means. I know they've been caught cranking like setting prices for stores
130:23 Which is crazy. Oh, yeah, I don't know. So they um, no, I think by undercutting they mean they're like demanding
130:29 Uh better pricing from the stores or they like won't list them on the app and stuff like that
130:33 So they want to absorb margin from the stores absorb margin from the drivers
130:38 and um Absorb margin from tips apparently
130:42 Yeah That's crazy
130:47 That's crazy, dude
130:51 Yeah, Mavs guy says I almost always prefer to go get it myself. I gotta admit
130:58 I There's people who are not gonna like this
131:02 but For especially certain things. I would rather go to the drive-through myself
131:08 And like eat food while I drive than have it delivered to me
131:12 Wait, why wouldn't people like that? I don't understand. Well, a lot of people don't like people eating while they drive
131:17 Oh You're hilarious
131:23 It's also technically illegal. Why don't tell anybody that
131:27 Actually, it is distracted driving that is illegal
131:30 I could make the argument that I am not distracted by that. What if you had a hands-free burger? Yeah, right?
131:36 They'll piece of rope who drives with their hands. Yeah
131:40 What year is it?
131:48 It's also just good to get out I think
131:51 Yeah, I like it Honestly, I don't there's been a there's been a rough amount of food delivery usage in in our place over the last little while
131:59 No available kitchen often very focused on work
132:02 Trying to get the house unscrewed up But that's like
132:05 That's a habit that we're going to be cutting pretty hard I also have vance get lunch for me more than I'd like
132:11 It's not because I want to vance is not a uber driver. No, I know
132:16 Vance is paid appropriately. Yeah, he's compensated for it. I just I just mean like I'd like to get out more
132:22 Is he driving the company car too? People get mad at me if I go out that also helps
132:27 You're that tier of person Sorry
132:31 You're that tier of person. That's got to be so annoying
132:36 Stop wrapping cables you're costing us money
132:41 It's legitimately kind of annoying
132:48 Like I'd like to I'd like to just you know go to a and w and get a teen burger, you know
132:53 Double teen lettuce wrapped. It's like actually pretty all right
133:01 In the whole mix of things a and w canada, man. It's great
133:04 You don't feel sick afterwards the macros considering you're getting a burger at a fast food restaurant are pretty good. Yeah
133:11 Love me some a and w canada. Yeah, that's my that is my s tier fast food
133:17 I'm always down for a teen that was my that was my lifeline at the beginning of the house teen burger
133:22 I'm not that kind of influencer
133:30 I feel it is necessary to clarify in in on this timeline
133:37 So just because you don't know A and w burgers are named after like members of a family basically
133:43 It's a mama burger and a papa burger and a baby burger and a baby burger. Yep
133:48 And a chubby chicken Yeah, I don't know where that came from. Yeah, well, I mean from the egg
133:53 Obviously, which came from the chicken which came from the egg
133:57 Which came from the chicken? Oh my god, reality's a lie
134:03 Which came first
134:07 All right, what are we supposed to be doing here? Oh egg
134:11 Egg came first let's do a short update on the December 26 when show discussion regarding youtube views
134:21 Remember when I was talking about those paid views on that video and I wanted clarification on what counts as a view
134:27 Like if somebody just watches five seconds of it and skips it is that a view? So I did
134:33 Get a response from my youtube rep and apparently
134:36 YouTube no longer hides the sauce
134:39 Um, they gave me a straightforward answer. Heck. Yeah, and said that the da da da da da
134:49 What is this what is this summary this has to be ai who did this
134:54 Where is this? Oh, this is a this is a trash
134:58 Summary, why would it be like this the email was so much simpler. I'm just going to read off the email
135:04 Okay, where's my where's my email from We shouldn't use output. Maybe we're gonna have to get more explicit about rules around ai internally
135:13 Yeah, we might have to do that
135:16 Somebody wrote that. Oh, okay. Well good on them then
135:20 Okay, so april said it qualifies as a view when the following is met
135:26 For skippable in stream ad views a viewer has to watch 30 seconds or until the end of the video
135:32 Whichever comes first. Okay. So if they like skip around in it
135:35 But they reach the end of the video because they only cared about the conclusion or something. Okay that counts
135:42 Okay It counts when a viewer clicks on an element of your video ad such as a call to action
135:49 card banner thumbnail or logo when this occurs a click will also be counted
135:56 For bumper and non skippable in stream ad views
136:00 True view views are not counted for these ad formats because viewers can't skip the ad so their intent isn't clear
136:06 For in feed video ad views a viewer clicks on the thumbnail and is taken to the video watch page
136:12 Or a viewer watches the video autoplay in line for at least 10 seconds
136:17 There is no scenario. We're simply watching with no engagement
136:21 A long form video ad for just a few seconds would count as a view on a long form video
136:28 So we did get clarification. So what that means to me then is for that number of
136:34 Views to have gone up. They must have bought it
136:38 A ton of impressions against that thing. I think it was one of those cases where the
136:44 Like we're we're cool with high sense and high sense is cool with us
136:47 But I think the agency had their own internal kpi's around how many views it was supposed to have
136:52 Worth it to them to just create that reality, I guess
136:55 Yeah, when like I don't personally see a ton of value in that because I see zero
137:01 It's it's organic content. Just let it let it do its thing. It's a great factory tour
137:06 You guys should check out the high sense factory tour. We did if you haven't already. It's a really cool production line
137:11 and Yeah, however many views it gets is is is fine and forcing people to like watch 30 seconds of it or whatever
137:20 Doesn't seem like it. Yeah, which creates it creates a ton of value. Dan. Can you see my screen?
137:32 That thing
137:37 So maybe a little column a column b
137:44 Hmm
137:50 Uh, okay new topic, I guess
137:54 Yeah hit me Oh
137:57 Should we do Short new topic and then those things. Yeah, let's do topics micron highlights. Just how grim the DRAM demands
138:05 are micron reported a record revenue of 13.6
138:11 A billion dollars in their first fiscal quarter. Yeah, that's one quarter revenue
138:17 My god, which is up 57 percent year over year
138:22 Even with this increase and migrating resources away from crucial microns in-house consumer brand of memory
138:29 It was still only able to achieve roughly 50 to 65 percent of the demand that some of their top customers have
138:38 Whoa Can you see micron coming back after the AI surge is done? Honestly, I don't know about that
138:47 They just they don't really have to you mean crucial coming back, right? Yeah, I think that's well
138:51 I think that's what the discussion question means. It was written as micron, but they don't really have to because
138:56 Micron can make their money. Yeah other people label it just selling it to kingston. Yeah or Corsair
139:01 Yeah, or g skill or a data or team group or patriot or
139:08 Okay, I'm I'm running out of them But the point is that there's a bazillion in one
139:13 module manufacturers that you can buy
139:16 micron dies on and so I just don't think that the
139:21 That the crucial brand I think it would be like cool
139:24 Matter to them more competition in that space, I guess, but when they're all just colluding on everything anyways
139:30 Um in which space in the DRAM space
139:33 In the RAM space. Well, no, I just mean because like we don't need more competition
139:37 We don't need more competition in the module manufacturing space. Yeah, that's probably fair
139:41 And then I mean more competition is always good, but sort of I mean, I really
139:46 It's pretty good. I really think there's enough in the DRAM module space. I mean here hear me out
139:51 I'm not saying there isn't necessarily enough. I just always think competition is good. Yeah, okay. Agreed
139:57 Agreed, however, there is a lot. I do think that there can be
140:02 enough at a certain point where you just
140:06 Have enough. I don't think it appreciably
140:10 Uh impacts pricing and so I think this is enough
140:15 Yeah, I just do there's a lot that don't necessarily matter
140:18 Um, well, it's regional, right? That's probably fair like my first computex
140:23 I hardly recognized I could I could probably have found like two dozen DRAM module manufacturers
140:29 I'd never heard of but crucial was pretty global in that regard crucial was great
140:33 And honestly, I will miss crucial more on the SSD side than I will on the DRAM side because
140:39 I could trust that they were using Good NAND and I could trust that they were using decent controllers and firmware
140:47 And I could trust that if there was a problem they had my back
140:51 Whereas I don't necessarily have the same degree of trust with every random storage manufacturer and
140:57 Storage is one of those things where unlike DRAM where if it's working it is probably going to work for a very long time
141:05 Storage not only degrades and so therefore is quite reliant on using a high-quality product that will last a long time
141:12 but also Holds my freaking data
141:16 Anything that carries my data is way more important to me than something that makes my
141:21 Game FPS go boom boom clicky faster like it's it's it's priorities, right?
141:28 Like I just I don't I don't need more FPS that badly, but I definitely do need something to not lose my data that badly
141:35 Yeah
141:38 All right, Dan what do you want us to do Floatplane announcements we can do that
141:43 If you are big into insider knowledge
141:47 Floatplane is the place to be this week. Do you want to bring it up? Yeah? Oh
141:53 That's the video we're highlighting I
141:57 Did a little workshop with my son
142:01 Um, and didn't link it didn't link
142:05 Well, that's here. We go got it. He's got it. I did a little workshop with my son
142:11 Oh exciting and if you have ever thought to yourself
142:15 Gee, you know I like watching Linus host a video, but I wonder why that is
142:23 I gave a about I think it's about 30 minutes long. I gave my son a crash course on
142:31 You know what it takes to get better at hosting in as little as
142:36 Half an hour just a bunch of little tips and tricks that I have picked up over the years
142:41 and so far their The reception has been really positive actually from the community
142:47 And it was the kind of thing that wasn't intended to be a an exclusive over on Floatplane
142:52 but We just we were we were having him help host that kindle review video
142:58 And I realized I kind of went oh, hey
143:01 This would be kind of neat We did this before with uh, tom peterson and ryan trout when they came up here from Intel
143:07 And I needed them to say something on the video and I was like, uh, you guys need to improve or like our retention
143:12 It's gonna suck and people really liked that exclusive. So this is kind of a longer
143:17 I'm excited for this longer version of that with an even greener host who has functionally zero experience
143:23 So if you've never hosted a video before it's a I won't call it a master class, but it's an adequate class
143:30 Um an adequate video class. Yeah adequate class. Exactly. Thank you
143:34 Because I'm not I'm not trained. I'm not the best video host I've ever met not even by a long shot
143:40 But I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty darn. Okay, and um, I think that I
143:46 Have a pretty good style of sort of identifying things and and explaining them. So yeah, it's a it's a good little good little exclusive
143:53 There was definitely more like I watching I haven't watched this yet, but having watched the the main video
144:00 There was definitely more learning to be done, but for a first video it did really really really well
144:04 Yeah, it was awesome. It was cool to watch if you're more into, you know merch
144:10 In this week's why is when late?
144:13 Oh, it says I work with kyle, which I assumed meant sammy, but no he means I worked with kyle
144:18 He writes these in your voice on choosing which
144:22 version Of the non-infringing purple screwdriver. We ultimately chose for mass production
144:29 I'm just going to mute this Basically kyle brought me five different versions of it
144:35 And I had to pick Which one to my eye and he also checked with other people. This is not a monarchy
144:42 But I had to pick which one to my eye Was the one to go to mass production
144:49 And turn into the kind of I and desk candy that so many members of the LTT community have been enjoying
144:58 The heck out of Someone actually posted an incredible
145:04 Collection of LTT screwdrivers over on the forum
145:08 This is nuts
145:12 Whoa, wow
145:16 Black shaft silver shaft orange and black
145:21 black staff black shaft silver shaft black and black
145:25 They've got the all black stuff that match and the orange and black stubby
145:30 Several shaft extensions both knocked to a colorways the non-infringing
145:36 Retro screwdriver, and they've even got a bunch of ones that were only available as like mystery
145:43 Um, so I think this is all of the end cap color ones and even one of the
145:49 Full color mystery ones along with
145:53 all Of the transparent and new retro transparent drivers
145:58 um Yeah, so people have been posting the heck out of their new screwdrivers and uh
146:07 Really enjoying the look of them
146:10 I actually have seen there's uh, there's quite a few really good ones of people posting the new uh, oh, yeah
146:16 Here, this is the very this is the top post on the subreddit right now like damn
146:21 How freaking awesome is that?
146:25 Wow, that looks great, right
146:28 And it's like it's there. There's a there's a bunch of people posting this stuff. Let's see if I can find it
146:33 Blah blah blah. Oh, hold on a second. It has I'm not oh wait. I am logged in
146:39 I don't know What I don't know who's the countdown on right now. So I don't know how it's sorting anything
146:46 uh Okay, neat. Let's not worry too much about that because there's like
146:51 Weak old posts that are coming up, but lately there's been a bunch
146:56 Good stuff. Why is this logged into someone's reddit account? I'm gonna log it out. Cool. Good chat
147:02 Is it just the the email that's I don't know
147:07 Oh Okay, yep. Let's let's not worry too much about that. Yeah, that's cool. Good chat
147:13 Uh, oh, this is an interesting one
147:16 From we were actually, uh, we meant to talk about this last week, but
147:21 Speaking of, you know insiders spilling the beans
147:26 A an alleged former amazon developer for amazon go
147:31 Reached out to me to correct the record interesting on the ai in these stores just being remote humans. So you remember when
147:38 um What what is it? What is that thing where ai stands for?
147:44 Uh, actually indians. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so
147:49 It broke a little while ago that the amazon go store was allegedly just
147:55 humans um mechanical turk. Yeah mechanical turking the the
148:01 Cashier list checkout and the machine vision. Mechanical turk is an amazon product
148:05 So in this case, it probably would have literally been mechanical turk
148:09 um, however a programmer who Says that they worked on the amazon go technology reached out to me to say, um, hey
148:20 Um, that's not actually really true. In fact
148:24 They claim that the reporting on that mechanical turk story was basically akin to journalistic malpractice because 80 percent of the actions observed in store
148:34 Were high confidence and were actually handled entirely by the machine learning models
148:38 While only 20 percent ish were mid or low confidence and were sent to be reviewed by mechanical turk for accuracy
148:47 The emailer also wanted to make it clear that they are not an amazon bootlicker
148:54 And were recently fired and i'm gonna not share the last part of their anecdote
148:59 But it's really funny really, but it would make it really easy to identify them
149:05 That's probably fair, but it's very funny. Um, it makes me if if real makes me really for sure believe this person
149:14 Yeah, i'm sorry. I would love to tell you guys, but I think I do not want to I do not want to out them
149:20 Yeah, and this would probably I guarantee you they're the only person who did this thing that they
149:27 Say they did um To sort of demonstrate that they're not an amazon bootlicker
149:33 So they just wanted us to know that the way that the story presented it was
149:37 Not really fair and mechanical turk was used for quality control
149:41 It doesn't really change that clearly they ran into a lot of the same challenges that
149:47 Self-driving vehicles have been running into where the first 80 percent
149:51 Is you know doable without the you know the heaviest lift and then it's that it's that last little bit
149:58 It's the edge cases that you have to solve for that are the hardest part that make a project like this potentially
150:05 No longer cost-effective And so ultimately they're obviously not working on that anymore amazon did can the program as far as i'm aware
150:13 uh, but No, it also wasn't just a bunch of people watching security camera feeds and you know entering your your checkout data
150:24 Yeah
150:27 Okay team viewer
150:32 Uh team viewer. Oh, yeah, sure. But did we do sponsors?
150:36 We have one more but we can talk about team viewer first. I'm so irritated
150:41 It's not news. What do we do? But i'm just really annoyed. I feel like something's gotta be done. The team viewer community is really upset about this
150:50 Hey, my perpetual license was deactivated for remote access. So only land mode works like
150:57 What? I'm not asking for updates or new features
151:00 I'm simply asking for my original remote access functionality, which existed at the time of purchase to not be taken away
151:06 Disabling the main feature of a perpetual license is effect effectively a termination or downgrade of the license
151:13 I want you to fix this Yeah, we're on the same ship. I hope they change heart. Yeah, they're not they're not going to
151:21 They are not taking enough flak for this
151:24 So let's help with that and uh, hey
151:28 Don't use team viewer Cool
151:33 Oh, no, karashi says we were hit by this at work
151:36 Ended up being strong armed into paying for a discounted subscription license. Why would you give them your business?
151:42 Use something else. There are other problems. There are other programs
151:47 guys No
151:50 Do we make like a video guide on?
151:54 Getting yourself out of team viewer. That's a pretty good idea
151:57 Because we still have stuff we use it for internally and we're gonna have to get rid of it
152:02 So like we need to get rid of it like now because i'm thinking like we got to do something
152:06 They have to they deserve to be struck. I'm down. Is that something that like Labs wants to work on potentially?
152:12 I mean in prep we could probably uh
152:16 It seems a little out of use case, but does it?
152:19 Yeah, I think so. Are we are we testing? I have no idea. I mean latency would matter
152:25 Adequate remote viewer service. I'm just you know, I'm gonna add it. I'll add it to the I'll add it to the pile
152:31 Okay All right. Yeah, let's work on alternatives
152:35 The team viewer Because yeah, just like I don't know team viewer basically. Yeah big time
152:42 I'm very sorry to hear um
152:46 That your company is still giving the money Because if you cancel perpetual licenses, you should just
152:52 You should just not be allowed to continue to exist. Yeah
152:57 Big time. Yeah, a lot of people are talking about rust desk. Apparently it's free and open source and can be self-hosted
153:03 Which is not the sales pitch that you think it is for a lot of organizations
153:09 Uh, maybe it can also here. I'm going to your screen
153:15 Okay, it does not have to be self-hosted. Okay, that's good. That's cool. It's really cool that they have a self-hosted option
153:22 There are a bunch of places that will not want that
153:26 People are talking about ninja rmm. I mean if you're looking to avoid a subscription that sure as heck is not going to be
153:32 The way that you're going to want to go Uh, what else we got? Apparently pancreas knows a bunch of options float viewer confirmed. No
153:41 um Noah de boss asks how about parsec to my knowledge parsec doesn't do mobile
153:50 That's that that was a big one for us as we needed something that worked mobile to desktop and desktop to mobile without
153:56 This is not a prepped topic without knowing
154:01 Competitors or anything parsec has been really nice for video editing stuff internally. Yeah, evan benjamin says parsec is only on Android
154:09 Not on iOS based up
154:14 I mean, no, that's not that's not a competitive advantage for the mook
154:21 Maybe they'll figure it out eventually. All right. Well, yeah, maybe this is something that we'll we'll look into on the writing side
154:26 And then we'll go from there I mean where Labs would be happy to like test something if you want me to test it here. I just
154:33 Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fair enough
154:36 Yeah, Labs is lazy. I get it No, I'm just all right. We'll do the whole video
154:41 It'll be like We'll just rebrand the channel Labs tech tips. Forget that Linus guy. Who needs him? I'm gonna make a Labs channel
154:48 I'll just do WAN Show. It's gonna happen. I'll do half of WAN Show actually. Yeah. Yeah, I get it right
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156:15 At that it's a hot dog. It's a hot dog. You know for
156:18 Labs's last quarterly event we did
156:21 We did fine dining and curling. Oh, okay. That's cool. The fine dining was cosco
156:26 Nice. Nice. So we went to the cosco food court and piled up like a huge
156:31 We I borrowed one of the like, you know cardboard box things that you can get when you're at cosco
156:36 And we just filled it up mostly with hot dogs But there was other things in there as well get some pizza of the great the fries with the gravy pool
156:42 There was pizza there's everyone could like order basically whatever and then we got a few did anyone get a chicken
156:48 No, because we didn't go into cosco. I tell you my son pulled that move a little while ago
156:53 Just a whole rotisserie chicken. Yeah, he just like we were getting lunch at the at the deli
156:58 It wasn't actually at cosco But it was like at a grocery store that had rotisserie chickens
157:02 And everyone was like getting like a you know, like a meal thing and he just got an entire rotisserie chicken
157:07 Sick and I was like, are you going to eat all that and he's like i'm 13 protein goals accomplished. So anyway carry on
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158:33 Oh, here's a good one An unlucky rtx 5080 buyer received rocks
158:40 in their box in socks
158:44 eating locks Posted it to tick tock
158:48 It doesn't matter the point is they got rocks in their box and best buy after I think about a six minute
158:56 Determined that they weren't going to do anything for them. So they went and did their own darn investigation
159:02 finding that
159:06 After placing constant calls to filing a better business bureau complaint filing a police report
159:13 and Finding evidence that the package gained weight in transit
159:20 The user which is like so pathetic. They didn't even Indiana Jones it properly
159:25 I know right criminals man. Yeah, I know a joke. I know
159:29 Um, so basically found in their own investigation that the package gained weight in transit
159:34 And got best buy to finally agree to refund and to best buys credit even price match the original deal
159:42 The buyer and this is hilarious apparently got
159:47 a commemorative tattoo from their girlfriend
159:52 to uh Well, I guess if it's a commemorative tattoo then it's to commemorate
159:58 The ordeal, but I'm actually I'm not finding that image. I do. It's the very last one. I've got it blink
160:04 nice So it was it was a tough gaming GPU. So that's the ASUS tough gaming logo on a rock
160:11 Which is pretty funny. That's actually pretty good. It does look like the logo is glowing and everything
160:17 This is one of those ones where it's like I can see I can definitely see
160:21 Both sides of the story. I mean best buy must get see that's the thing about fraudsters
160:25 Is they will find any opportunity to fraud and so best buy probably does get a lot of fraudulent
160:31 Her dear I got bricks in my GPU box. Dude. I yeah, I worked there. This happened all the time
160:38 Actually all the time so I can understand why they're just like people would buy her dear forget it xbox 360s and return them without the hard drives
160:47 I'm obvious what's going on there customer service person wouldn't notice because they don't necessarily
160:52 They're not necessarily familiar with xbox 360s or whatever
160:55 They'd be yeah, they'd be missing stuff all the time Why buy an accessory when you can just like steal it. Yeah, right. Yeah
161:02 So I can understand that But also like this stuff does happen stuff does get stolen
161:09 In transit and so I this user was
161:12 Rightfully outraged and the fact that it was so easy to investigate and find out that yeah when this package was weighed
161:19 It stopped weighing the same It just feels like best buy didn't even want to solve it. I don't like that
161:27 And the dumbest part is that because of the way that this happened
161:30 Best buy should actually be entitled to compensation from the courier. This is the courier's problem. This is not best buys liability
161:39 So that uh That shopper was one
161:44 Tough customer
161:51 I feel like Dan was prepped for that It's like loaded and ready. It was overhanding it. Yeah, yeah, you know like that old movie from probably
161:59 I'm assuming when we were relatively young Uh of that kid who played baseball and his ARM would like you'd hear like
162:07 And then he'd let go and it would fire off and he ended up playing and like
162:11 Professional leagues. Do you have anyone? Does anyone know I'm talking rookie of the year rookie of the year
162:17 Rookie of the year. Okay. Yeah. No, I've never seen this is it. Wow. The pankrats had that on deck
162:24 Um, but yeah that that uh, that was Dan right there
162:28 Okay, 1993 Ready to hit the bell
162:32 Okay, I probably should have uh, I probably should have seen that one. I'm on the right
162:36 It's a 40 on rotten tomato. So maybe not oh yikes. I mean I pulled out airbud, which probably isn't rated much better
162:44 Yeah, but airbud is legendary I mean rookie of the year is legendary for me, but it might not be for
162:50 For other people. Dude. I don't know. There's some pretty good movies that are rated pretty bad
162:55 Yeah, airbud's a 50 percent and a 40 percent from the audience. So
163:00 Not so much, but this is going to blow your mind
163:03 The boondock saints is rated 26 percent by critics. I had no idea wait by critics. Okay. Yeah
163:12 Who cares about that? No, seriously though, but like wait with den with that clock
163:16 I was going to say that would definitely go on the list would work for your thing 100 percent
163:20 That is a movie to watch how
163:23 And like okay, listen, I haven't watched that movie since I was in my late teens early 20s
163:29 so Maybe maybe stylistically
163:33 artistically It's a crap movie. Maybe it has a bad plot or it's full of cliches and tropes or you know, whatever maybe maybe
163:42 but like I remember enjoying it a lot. I thought it was cool
163:49 It's been forever since I've seen it, but I thought it was cool
163:52 Critics consensus a juvenile ugly movie that represents the worst tendencies of directors channeling Tarantino
164:01 Well, I thought it was awesome. Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. But again, I haven't seen it since I was quite young
164:07 Who did direct this? Troy Duffy. What else have you directed?
164:12 Oh, okay Not much the sequel to the boondock saints, which nobody liked and no whatever the heck guest house is
164:21 a zero percenter Wow, this guy looks like he just watched the guest house. Yeah, really. I don't know if I've ever seen a zero
164:32 Uh, yeah, that one that I was almost in but got cut out of was a zero for a while
164:37 That makes I think it's one percent now. Oh
164:41 Oh, it's up to four percent probably Uh, yeah, it only takes two people to give it some amazon reviews came in. Yeah
164:49 The plot is ludicrous
164:53 It's a true desktop disaster. I hope that person knew what they were doing. I hope so too. They didn't spell it right though
164:59 Oh, maybe they didn't then
165:03 Luda All right, um, what else we got for today
165:08 Apple find a hundred and sixteen million dollars over app. Actually, no, let's let's go to this one because people keep posting about it
165:15 Where is it? We don't have notes for this Um, Corsair cancels orders and increases prices
165:20 This was mentioned in the pre-show just from some people in chat. Yeah, this is not a prepared topic
165:25 Um, but we have a link over to I guess our subreddit that is talking about
165:31 Corsair's subreddit and some of what's going on again because this is not a prepared topic
165:36 We don't have a lot of notes for this but um, apparently theoretically what's happening is
165:42 Corsair is cancelling orders and yeah, then
165:47 Hiking prices. I think I read No, yeah in this one
165:51 If I scroll down here and this is still on the line of detective subreddit
165:55 So I haven't actually gone to Corsair subreddit yet, but this person shared this photo
166:00 Um, yeah, I had my RAM order cancelled by them to be fair
166:04 It was definitely pricing error on their part 48 gigabytes of DDR5 or 200 bucks
166:08 But still very disappointing the prices for the same ran is now double now and you can see this screenshot
166:13 That basically says it was a system error So they cancelled it on you and they tried to offer a gesture of goodwill of 15 off your next order
166:21 Okay, people are saying in in chat. I read this earlier that in some areas of the world
166:28 Maybe not where this is happening. Maybe this is only happening in the states. I don't know but in some areas in the world
166:34 This is Illegal apparently
166:38 But I don't know if it's illegal where they're doing it. I don't know where they're doing it
166:42 Again, this is a fairly unprepared topic. Um, but pretty
166:47 crazy, um, especially while
166:50 Tensions are rather high over RAM and most of the posts that I'm seeing about this is
166:57 Um, RAM stuff Yeah
167:07 Okay, yeah, I don't know there's a lot of these posts
167:13 There's actually quite a few of them it's going through the course they're subreddit
167:22 Okay, but I don't necessarily have a ton to say about it. Yeah, I don't know if it's actually a pricing error
167:27 um Then it is what it is and it's actually kind of nice of them to offer a 15 discount
167:35 Uh, if it's not A pricing error and it's just pricing going up and them not accounting for it and updating things quickly enough
167:43 That is a pricing error of sorts But it's not a pricing error like a like a data input error in the way that we would typically think of a pricing error
167:53 And the fact that this is happening on complete systems
167:57 Kind of leads me to believe that it could be the latter in which case it's not very cool
168:02 Um, either way, it's again not a prepared topic. We don't really know what's going on
168:06 Yeah, it's going to be down to sort of following this up with your local consumer protection bureau assuming that you have one
168:12 and uh Otherwise or just or just ordering RAM from another apparently they've cranked up the discount
168:18 Here's an updated message that I found on a thread. Oh, uh, we are not on a thread. This is a a post itself
168:25 Sorry, I don't read it enough. Um Truly understand, but uh 40 off a single DRAM product of your choice
168:32 Okay, was the other one for a full system though because I could see 10 off a full system being
168:37 I'm not sure but what I do see here at the bottom says the original 15 cube on remains valid for other components on our
168:43 Web store got it. So that was probably for a system. Oh
168:47 Okay, interesting sounds more like DRAM to me So what this tells me then is Corsair has some stock probably of DRAM that they are
168:56 That is at old contract pricing and they're able to use some of the margin that they have
169:01 On their DRAM that they have at the old pricing as pricing is going up to offer a discount and I mean that's something at least
169:08 Yeah, all right, again, don't know all the details blah blah blah insert various caveats. Oh speaking of the LTT subreddit
169:16 Um before anyone notices it and goes. Sorry what?
169:21 Um, oh shoot. I can't I can't see a list of moderators without being logged in
169:25 But I am officially a moderator on the subreddit now
169:29 This is not because our plan is to you know be meanies and censor people
169:35 um, but Can I make a new account and you flag me as me then?
169:39 Yeah, I can do that because I can't recover my old reddit account. Oh, okay
169:43 Unless someone watching like knows people at reddit and can help me
169:47 Oh, I mean that's probably true too. That would be awesome because I can't recover my old reddit account. Cool
169:53 It seems like when we migrated from last pass to keeper
169:56 Maybe that password didn't come along and I never attached it to an email because you at least used to be able to do that on reddit
170:02 So there seems to be no way for me to recover the account I can log into it. I just have to boot up my old computer which still has an active session
170:10 For whatever reason it's been like You know, I I'm pretty sure the time gap in which I tried it was like over six months
170:19 And then it just it worked no problem, but even being logged into the account
170:22 I can't do anything to recover it or set a new password. So I have been locked out
170:27 cool So, yeah, the goal is not to you know
170:32 Be mean or anything like that
170:35 But I'm also not going to claim that if I see someone who's a complete bad faith
170:42 Dumb dumb that they will continue to have posting privileges. So make of that
170:48 what you will so for instance, there's a thread about the new true spec cables and
170:56 You know, these are going to be the new monster cable and they're going to be have absurd pricing and
171:04 You can just I don't know post on other subreddits I guess because you don't actually have evidence for the claim that you're making
171:13 Um, I think if the community counters that person significantly enough, it might even be good to leave it up
171:19 Um, why? Uh, so that people can see that an argument for that was made and immediately discounted
171:26 But I mean, that's all your call. Yeah
171:30 All right, duly noted It's just an just an idea
171:34 I think there will be cases where that makes sense and there will be plenty of cases where that does not make sense
171:40 Yeah, I don't know. I think uh, I think buddy here who says I've always wanted to buy
171:45 Expensive overpriced usb cables, but didn't feel like going to Best Buy. I think they can just take a vacation though
171:51 Like do they what why why do they need to be here?
171:55 I mean the hate watchers need somewhere to post but they could post somewhere else
171:59 There are other places. There are other places where people can post
172:02 That is an option. It's a hundred percent an option. I'll think about it so far
172:07 I have not I have not banned anyone, but uh, I don't know. That's not necessarily a guarantee is all I'm saying
172:16 And to be clear this is not down to So people in chat are saying dissenting opinions are okay. So here's the problem
172:24 This is not a product that they have seen
172:27 It's not a product that they know anything about If we reviewed things site unseen you'd be pissed. Yeah, you'd hate it
172:35 You'd say that we've completely lost all credibility and any right to offer up an opinion on things
172:41 If we just said stuff completely without any precedent for it or any evidence
172:46 It's just completely bad faith engagement and there's
172:50 Really no need for it. Now if someone wants to review the cables, that's totally different. Go for it. That's totally different
172:55 We've even highlighted reviews of our products that contain negative sentiments here on the windshow. Yep
173:02 We're open to that But if you're just
173:05 Trashing on something that you don't know anything about you don't know the pricing
173:09 You don't know the quality and you're just saying it's bad. You have outed yourself. You've outed yourself as
173:17 A non credible non serious person. No, that's not that's not the same thing guys
173:24 You don't get to have an opinion about something that you don't
173:28 Actually know literally anything about
173:31 Demonstrably you don't know anything about it just kind of doesn't really work like that
173:44 Unique username asks will you delete comments that assume the product is great without them having seen it or having evidenced otherwise
173:52 I don't think I saw any
173:56 Sorry say that again. I wasn't listening Well, you also delete someone who assumes that the product is great
174:02 Without them having seen it or having it be evidenced otherwise I will say that I banned someone on the youtube channel who was who was spamming
174:11 Um an inaccurate defense of some scandal that we had
174:16 so they they were like Ra ra ra super pro LTT also not hopeful about something
174:23 And there was misinformation in their defense. So I shadow banned them
174:28 So no, I'm not interested in people white knighting inaccurately
174:34 However
174:42 That one requires a think that one definitely requires a think
174:47 All right, king jarra says you get to have an opinion on anything. It's an opinion
174:52 Yeah, but it's also not a it's not a government public forum. Yeah, you can go have that opinion anywhere
174:57 You can do it somewhere else. I don't I don't personally like I think there are so I used to be really ra ra about
175:06 Moderation standards on on in certain ways and blah blah blah blah, but I think the internet is so huge now
175:12 You and I were like militantly. Nothing should be deleted. Yeah for a very long time
175:16 The the only like primary rule on the forum was that you can attack us too
175:22 But no personal tax against other people Um and that like that's even that's like really really open
175:29 But now there's just there's just
175:32 It's so easy to mass generate accounts. It's so easy to ai spam with things
175:39 um there's so much like
175:42 group think hatred for Everything you could possibly ever imagine. I'm not even just talking about us
175:48 Um at all to be clear. Um, and it's so easy to hijack a community
175:54 with Surprisingly little effort to just make it a terrible place
176:00 And it's so common now that I just I just don't really care anymore
176:05 Um, there are 10 million other places on the internet more than that that you can go
176:09 It's not like we're like taking your house from you
176:12 like It's literally reddit. There's probably more of subreddits than that
176:18 Oh, there are also other subreddits that will talk about us and our stuff
176:23 Binky draws says i'm a moderator on a medium-sized discord server and there's a huge problem with bot accounts
176:29 Yeah, like it's it's uh, it's actually unreasonable to
176:33 Do in my opinion, what would be considered as like old style of moderation anymore? Um
176:38 Yeah And there's a big difference between saying that you feel
176:48 That the cables might be overpriced and low quality versus saying definitively that it is. Yeah, sure huge difference
177:02 All right, what else we got going on here Oh NVIDIA and AMD rumored to be preparing GPU price hikes in q1 of 2026 and
177:14 Adding some weight to this an ASUS letter has allegedly leaked announcing price hikes starting january 5th
177:23 Which means that it could be our um
177:28 It could be our last positive
177:32 How much is the Intel arc b580?
177:37 investigation check
177:40 Is the b580 still msr? Oh god, what is this?
177:49 Are you kidding me? Wait, wait, wait. Oh out of stock
177:53 No, is that another stock to you? No. Yeah, i'm down into i'm down into all the out of stock stuff
178:00 No Was last week the last one
178:05 Dan don't tell people to panic Why would you tell people to panic?
178:11 It's all going wrong. Why would you why would you spray? Why would you spread panic literally?
178:16 Literally spreading panic burn down your village
178:20 Okay, hold on hold on wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, it's an open box. That's an open box
178:26 Wait, but hold on Is this a shift in usd cad?
178:31 No, it's more of a gap than that. This is us. What is there msr? Oh, no, this you have this. I'm on the us site, dude
178:37 So what is it supposed to be again 249 for the b580?
178:42 And the lowest one is 299
178:45 It hit the holiday bundle is still there, but it's over
178:50 b580 at msrp party is over
178:55 Oh boy No
179:02 No
179:07 Oh, that is such a downer Cell cell cell dump it Dan stop it
179:16 You are not you are the definition of not helping
179:20 All right, what about canada? Okay b580 can computers are you gonna let me down here?
179:33 Okay Online sold out online available for 400. That's way over 250
179:41 No No
179:45 No, it's 300 us now
179:49 Oh, this is probably not the end of it either. All right
179:53 359 from new egg reports out of korea say no, there was one for 299
179:58 Reports out of korea say that in no cad
180:01 Sorry, what cad? Oh where on new egg? Yeah
180:05 Is it in stock? I don't see a thing that says stock to be honest
180:08 Yeah, I took heart. I think you're good
180:12 Boom Okay, so you can still get them at new egg canada
180:17 For about 249 us actually it's a touch higher, but it's a little bit higher. It's not too bad
180:22 That is often how that goes. All right. Do I get to finish the sentence now? Yes. I'm having a very luke experience
180:28 Reports out of korea say I have to do it again that NVIDIA and AMD are planning to jack up GPU prices throughout the show
180:36 in early 2026 and the top end gforce rtx 5090 could end up around five
180:43 Thousand dollars, which is more than double what it first launched for
180:47 Memory costs and broader GPU supply issues are squeezing component prices and makers are said to be shifting
180:55 More of their production towards ai and data centers, which will boost prices across the board
181:01 The hikes are expected to happen in steps throughout q1 2026 affecting not only flagship cards, but a range of consumer gpus
181:10 Meanwhile, ASUS sent partners a notice that starting january 5th of 2026
181:15 It will raise prices on some of its products right before ces gets going
181:21 Roughly translated ASUS's letter doesn't list exact models. It just says they're doing strategic price
181:27 adjustments on certain product combinations
181:31 Discussion question in your time as a tech enthusiast
181:34 Can you remember a worst start to the new year for the tech industry price hikes and shortages seems like a pretty bad way to kick off
181:42 2026
181:45 um I don't know it's this is a tough one because on the one hand there's a lot of bad news
181:52 This is all bad news WAN Show has kind of become bad news show
181:56 yeah, but And this is part of remember that that conversation we had over the kind of the last couple of weeks about sort of the bright side
182:04 bright side of tech and gaming This is one of the things that made its way into the full LTT video on this
182:13 Okay, you can go to pc part picker right now
182:17 And you can select Magnificent AMD gaming and streaming build
182:22 And this thing really is magnificent It has a 9800 x3d the fastest gaming processor known to mankind
182:30 It has a sick thermal right Giant dual tower cooler. It has a b580 pro a
182:39 Motherboard or whatever you could get some other motherboard if you really want actually apparently this one's out of stock. Let's see
182:45 Everything else is either Uh-oh
182:50 Hold on. We might be in trouble Okay, when I looked earlier this week this particular GPU was in stock
182:57 Oh No at time of filming
183:00 At time of filming. Hold on. Let's try and find another one. I'm gonna find one. I'm gonna find one
183:05 Just a sec. Just a second. I'm gonna recover this. There's two different magnificent builds. Hold on. Hold on. There's an Intel on an AMD
183:12 Oh, what am I doing? Getting distracted
183:17 Rtx 5080. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Okay, so for 11 11 99. Okay, so that's a little more. That's a little more
183:24 It is 17 16 dollars more. Okay, so that's fine my point stands
183:30 So you just got to go find a motherboard which is fine. Okay. Well, so we'll pay at most maybe another like 30 40 bucks
183:36 Okay, everything else here is in stock. Cool. Okay, so this is a sick system
183:42 32 gigs of DDR5 6000 cl 30 memory. It's a nice little memory kit two terabytes
183:48 This is samsung 980 pro. There's a nice SSD
183:51 Okay, rtx 5080 argb quick case from Corsair. You could save a few bucks by not going Corsair
183:58 Uh thousand watt 80 plus gold modular power supply. This is a sick build
184:04 for let's call it 2650 us dollars
184:09 is If we're looking at the guides page of pc park bigger, which ones?
184:14 Is maybe top two. Do you think people are actually building that hold on hold on that's not quite the point
184:21 Yeah, okay. I think it matters, but all right. The point is that we did a 4k gaming system build guide 11 years ago
184:30 Putting together a top spec gaming machine
184:34 was four thousand dollars At that time the 4k build was 4k. I actually remember joking about that at the time
184:42 So Is it bad?
184:45 Well, yeah, it's definitely bad that this RAM is more expensive than it was
184:51 It's definitely bad that GPU prices are going up
184:58 But Gaming and tech have still kind of been there for us in a pretty big way
185:04 The fact that I can buy an absolute monster of a machine
185:09 For 2,500 bucks compared to the way that everything else in our lives is going up
185:19 It's pretty cool
185:23 It could be better. Yeah, I'd love it if it was better. Yeah, I also think like the the disproportional hit is not on people
185:31 Buying the magnificent build and that's true and that's true
185:35 It's rough. Yeah It was like even if you're going for the great and like I I did scroll down here
185:40 I noticed there's the entry and modest are like way below the fold
185:45 Hold on have a have a click on the entry level one though Because like I remember building an entry level system for myself back in the
185:52 Sort of mid to late 2000s and it didn't even have a dedicated GPU. I'm willing to bet this has a dedicated GPU
185:59 Yeah, b580. Yeah So like it's showing an msrp b580. Oh, yeah, there you go bnh apparently has stock
186:07 What out of stock. Oh in stock in stock. Oh, okay. That looked that didn't look green
186:12 It looked gray. It looked like a gray circle with a slash through it from here
186:17 I think it is gray. It's just a check mark, but it's okay. That's really stupid a little odd bnh
186:22 You should probably use the color green for that I just just convention
186:27 That's my opinion which i'm entitled to have
186:30 Yeah You know you could get banned. I could and they're allowed to ban me from their site. They are allowed to they're actually allowed to do that. Yeah
186:39 um The the the 32 gigs ran for 179 is
186:44 surprising so Yes, you know
186:49 It could be it could be It could be better
186:52 But I also do feel like some of this is people just kind of piling on to an issue
186:59 And Rage baiting and I don't think it's rage baiting
187:04 I think I think you're uh, you don't think people posting like a $2,000 RAM kid is rage baiting a little bit
187:09 Nobody was buying that anyway. Okay, maybe a little bit even if it was a thousand. I'm sure there's I'm sure there's some of that
187:14 This does still definitely suck for people that it does especially on the lower end where like a
187:20 because if I remember correctly the magnificent bill that RAM cost was about was
187:25 Like a little bit more than 10 percent Yeah
187:29 Yeah, it was on some of these entry ones. I'm assuming this is like a really significant punch
187:34 Like when we're looking at great AMD gaming build. Yeah, I haven't even clicked on this one yet. Let's see
187:40 Yeah, like the ramping 314 dollars on a system that is where is it?
187:46 1387 yeah is going to push past people's limits to the point where they might have to step down
187:53 Um, hold on. Can you go back to that one though? Sure
187:57 But let's again, let's look at the bigger picture here
188:00 So this is a really nice six core processor
188:05 Uh, what kind of GPU do we have in here? We have a 50. Ooh, we have a 50 60 ti a game stop SSD
188:11 Okay, no this build sucks. What is a game stop? I didn't know game stop had I might just generally have kind of issues with this
188:18 Build though because what on earth are you doing using and is this?
188:22 Oh, this is a thing. Yeah, this is a thing. That's wild. Sorry. I had no idea at this budget
188:27 You should be using a stock cooler though. You should not be using an x chip which just saved you probably about 40 bucks
188:34 What else do we have here? Oh that 50 60 ti is not the choice
188:40 So you should just be using an arc b580 which just saved you another hundred plus
188:45 Dollars no not a hundred plus. Oh, yeah, which just saved you like another hundred fifty dollars
188:52 Also, if I'm spending 70 dollars on a case, I'm sure as heck not getting a mon tech
188:58 And I do not need a 750 watt power supply. That's a crappy build
189:02 This is where I think in this price range you're going to benefit from at least doing a
189:06 At the very least a bit of a hybrid approach try to get your case used or something. I would for sure get one on facebook marketplace
189:14 Yeah, this is this is not uh I haven't priced out a rig in a long time. I'm not going to comment but
189:23 Yeah, that's that's not a good. That's not a well configured build
189:28 um Is it possible that it was at one point and then pricing changes made it worse?
189:33 That is possible But also it's just like got too big of a power supply which is great if you're trying to future proof
189:38 but if you're targeting like around a thousand to eleven hundred dollars then
189:44 you're In my opinion better off getting what you need
189:48 um 750 watt Yeah, you'd want to spec down from that dude if i'm if i'm running an rtx 40 60
189:56 Like what does an rtx 40 60 even use like 200 watts or something 50 60 ti?
190:02 I'm not sure. Sorry. What was it 50 60 ti? Okay. Let me check what a 50 60 ti is because I don't think it uses a ton of power
190:10 Yeah, it's it's a 180 watt card
190:13 I just found it's and then you have a 95 You have a 95 watt CPU
190:17 What are you doing buying a 750 watt power supply for that? I don't know how much money you're going to save going down to
190:23 650 or 550 or something it adds up though
190:27 Yeah, because you could save 20 bucks on your case you could save
190:30 Uh 30 what what I say about 40 bucks on your CPU and cooler
190:34 You can save what another 15 20 bucks on your power supply. You could save 100 150 bucks on your GPU
190:40 Okay, now we're talking about an appreciable difference and how much you're paying for this computer like
190:47 It's This is what I spent years of my life doing on the ncix forums
190:53 Is saving three dollars on this and ten dollars on that
190:57 And 15 bucks on this and four dollars on that and all of a sudden you saved some more fans
191:03 You saved a hundred dollars on your system. That's a free copy of Windows back when people bought that what no one ever did
191:09 Uh, oh, yeah, that's a lie. Dude. Do you have any idea how many system invoices I have looked at in my life?
191:17 People buy Windows. This is going to be mind-blowing for for many many members of our audience
191:24 many members of our audience People definitely definitely buy Windows
191:30 And just scrolling through some of the power supplies. You're not going to save a ton, but you might save 10 bucks
191:35 Yeah, which is hey 10 bucks is 10 bucks
191:38 Especially if you don't need modular like oh wait, hold on. Was that one modular?
191:42 Uh, okay the one in the build. Yeah
191:48 Well, I mean it's like 10 trillion different ones. I think yeah, it's modular
191:51 So that's part of the filters you do not need a modular power supply in a thousand dollar build
191:56 That's that's silly. You should not be doing that So people are just they're making unwise decisions in the configuration and going how long a lot of the power supplies
192:05 I've had have lasted I might want to get a a bit higher wattage modular one knowing that I can carry it into my next build
192:11 Sure, but then you're going to be making Compromises that I personally would consider to be unacceptable at that budget
192:19 At that budget i'm $10 more on a power supply
192:22 If I think I can carry it into my next build it all adds up I mean, but that's how you end up
192:27 Spending a little more on every component because you could I could make the same justification across the board
192:32 You don't need 32 gigs of RAM today
192:36 Yeah I don't know if that's valid you like it
192:40 I don't know if it's saying you can do that for every component is valid though
192:44 There are power supplies that have lasted a what he ought to minute. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying
192:49 I'm saying that that that rationale that
192:53 That while This could last a little longer if I get a better one you could say the same thing for the case for sure
192:59 Yeah, like I'll get a slightly better case. I think the case and then you could say the better thing
193:03 You could say the better same thing for your CPU cooler I'll get a better CPU cooler and I'll carry it forward with me to the next build
193:08 Especially if you can get new mounting brackets or or make your own and so my point is and now all of a sudden
193:14 You're you're kind of buying a different class of machine
193:17 And when I'm configuring disagree when I'm configuring a thousand dollar build
193:21 I'm focused on performance I don't think I'm getting to a different class machine by spending 10 more dollars on my power supply
193:26 But you are you're using a different rationale for how you're choosing your components sure
193:31 I am choosing my components at that price point based on what this gets me today
193:35 If I can get some degree of future proofness out of it, then that's great
193:39 But I don't think that a 650 or even a 550 watt power supply is going to meaningfully impact my upgrade path
193:48 Because at the end of the day if I'm someone that's shopping for a 50 60 ti today
193:53 I am not someone that's shopping for a 70 80 in a couple of years
193:58 That's a completely different class of product And if I am that might be totally legit depending on life stage
194:04 And but if I am and my life stage has changed that much you might also get a higher quality power supply
194:11 That's it would take some research, but sure But if you're looking at you know 10 or 20 dollars cheaper, you're still getting a quality unit
194:18 You're just getting one that's rated a little lower And the same way that if my life stage has changed such that I go from shopping for an arc b580 to shopping for
194:29 a 70 80 Or something like that. I'm all of a sudden I can afford a 1500 dollar GPU
194:35 My life stage has probably changed to the point where I could offload my old system and I could buy a new power supply
194:40 Like that's the thing working at the computer store, man
194:45 I thought everybody upgrades their computers
194:48 People don't upgrade their computers. I do though. I know you do which is why your perspective is very interesting
194:56 but As someone who worked at the store
195:00 Yeah, but we're talking to people in the community that might actually upgrade their stuff
195:04 Of course, there are some ancient power supplies that are not well priced on phaser marketplace. This is rough
195:10 Well, look at how old this xfx power supply is
195:14 I mean, it's also 60 bucks. It's also 40 about 45 us dollars
195:18 I mean, I'd trust that in my system It is old
195:24 Yeah Is that 80 plus gold or bronze?
195:28 Oh, that's one of their weaker ones. Um
195:31 xfx's power supplies from that era were quality though, and I believe this is this is the
195:38 All wattage available on the 12 volt rail era. You can you can double check that by just zooming in really close
195:45 Yeah, 744 of this 755 watts is on the 12 volt rail
195:50 Um, I would probably check real quick and just make sure that it doesn't have like a virtual multi rail thing
195:56 That's going to cause ocp to trip, but I believe this is post that as well
196:01 So I would I would probably trust that xfx. It's not going to be the most efficient thing in the world
196:05 But it should be reliable. It's just so old
196:08 Yeah, but like so Like three minutes ago. You were like, well power supply part of the justification for spending more is I can use it a long time
196:15 Buying one without a significant discount that is already ancient. How is it not a significant discount?
196:20 What's a 750 watt power supply today? I don't know in Canada
196:24 Well, I mean we can it doesn't feel like a significant if only I mean
196:29 We we can't just go on vibes and feelings Right, but I'm acknowledging that because we're having a discussion about something that I don't have up-to-date numbers on this are very reasonable
196:37 Okay, okay. It is a very significant discount. Okay. Yeah
196:41 I'd be interested to see from like lucas or something like grabbing a bunch of
196:46 Old power supplies like that I ah, you know what I wanted to do years ago
196:51 Do you remember the video that we did where we got a brand new evga?
196:57 580 gtx and we compared it against one that had been used for like 10 years
197:04 To find out if Like because people people imagine that their their silicon devices go slower over time
197:13 And we basically had been trying to debunk that for a long time like
197:18 I'm not a memory of this. I do have some memory if it runs at
197:22 megahertz x Then it is running at megahertz x like
197:28 modern silicon that you know has that can that that dynamically
197:34 Changes its clock speeds right that turbo boosts
197:38 might turbo less aggressively over time or your thermal interface material might degrade
197:44 Right and that could impact performance, but megahertz is megahertz. I don't make the rules
197:49 it runs at the speed it runs at and If you are imagining that there is some kind of slowdown
197:55 It is probably because your demands have increased or the software that you're using is
198:01 um Well, I guess that's basically just another way of saying your demands have increased
198:07 and um, which is almost certainly happening which is almost certainly happening
198:13 And you imagined it or or you imagined it Those are those are basically the two options and you'd have people swearing up and down that
198:21 Running exactly the same software exactly the same way it gets slower over time. So we we debunked it once and for all
198:27 We took a brand new sealed in box that evga found for us
198:32 And tested it against an old one that had been on the bench for years and also in someone's system for years
198:38 And we ran them through the exact same suite and lo and behold they performed
198:43 Exactly the same because that's how it works. Did you tim replace the heavily used one?
198:48 I don't even think well, we didn't because it didn't matter because there was no dynamic clock speed adjustments on the 580
198:53 So the point was if it's running at clock speed x then its performance will be x
199:00 It's that simple And I had wanted to do the same thing for a power supply
199:05 I wanted to get my hands on a brand new
199:09 Old model power supply And compare it against one that had been deployed for 10 years or something like that in someone's
199:15 You know server closet or something and I was just I was never able to get it together because
199:20 Everyone talks about how you should budget like 10 for a capacitor aging
199:25 but My understanding is that's actually
199:29 Super ancient outdated device outdated advice from like the electrolytic
199:35 Capacitor era like solid state caps from my understanding of them may decay a little bit
199:42 But not to nearly the same degree that those older power supplies did
199:47 But I just I haven't really I haven't pursued it recently
199:51 But I when I like looked into it and wanted to do it. I wasn't able to find anyone who was able to
199:56 To get me an old one Um
200:00 And and an untouched oh and pock nor 47 and Floatplane chat for crying out loud
200:05 Context matters They're saying I understand the point but megahertz is a terrible metric
200:11 I had a pentium 4 that ran at 3 gigahertz and my 5800 x3 runs at 3.4 not what I was saying
200:17 We're talking two of an identical product over time
200:21 Context matters not ipc improvements and stuff
200:25 Sheesh all right
200:28 Anywho
200:31 Um What topic are we even on?
200:36 Oh, okay. We got now we were done that new one modders are slapping 32 gigs of um on NVIDIA's rtx 50 80s
200:45 but Spoiler that's not good news for gamers
200:50 The modded variants are for AI workstations and servers
200:55 cool I guess there's really
201:00 Not much to say about it other than that what tier of modders is doing this like is this could people do this at home
201:06 Oh heavens now. Yeah, I didn't think so. Yeah
201:09 I knew there was some like, you know back in the langley house. There was
201:14 um Some power mods you could do to cards that were like
201:19 consumer level doable. I think it was uh, I think it was
201:23 Yeah, this already. Yeah, I think it was kingpin. Yeah
201:27 Who uh cut the back end off of a GPU and like took the like the back end vrm of another GPU and just like
201:34 Soldered them together and ran it. I might be remembering this incorrectly. I don't know but I didn't even think he cut one off
201:40 I thought he just like it came out in an angle. He's probably done both if we're being realistic
201:45 Yeah, what am I looking at here? Whatever i'm looking at. Um is not something that regular people will be doing
201:53 No, so it's pretty sick though. I love that their test platform
201:58 Just is a hunk of copper on the GPU
202:02 So that it will run long enough for them to verify post
202:06 It's just it is literally a heat sink That's awesome. The GPU is sinking heat into this copper slug
202:13 With no actual active cooling on it whatsoever because it's not worth reassembling just to find out if it will
202:21 post That is amazing. I'm saying this to the public not to you, but you ever seen the palm method
202:28 I've used it. Yeah, me too You just put your hand on the chip and you use human water cooling to keep it from frying itself while you just see if it works
202:37 You gotta go relatively fast. That'll get hot real fast
202:40 um, but oh man Mc mcbane says Linus has not been watching north ridge fix. Okay. I don't know if this was from north ridge fix
202:48 But I did see a motherboard repair that went viral recently that was
202:54 Mind-blowing like multi-layer pcb. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I saw something about that
203:00 unreal Unreal at that point. You're just flexing. I think by the way
203:06 Um, do as we say not as we do putting your hand on the chip. Uh, people in people in chat are all like
203:13 Yeah, I burned myself doing that lost a couple fingerprints. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're not recommending that
203:17 That's a terrible terrible idea. It's bad for your body. It's bad for the the electronic device
203:23 Cool. Good chat. Uh, apple don't do it again apple has been
203:30 Apple has been fined 116 million over app privacy prompts
203:36 This is wild italy's antitrust authority has fined apple 98.6 million euro
203:42 saying that one of the company's privacy features
203:46 unfairly restricted competition in the app store
203:51 Hold on a second though regulators were focused on app tracking transparency
203:58 apple's system that requires apps to ask users for permission before tracking them for targeted ads
204:05 italy says apple forces third-party apps to ask for user consent twice
204:11 Creating extra friction that hurts developers and advertisers who rely on ad revenue
204:20 But that sounds okay
204:23 I'm with apple on this one. Yeah a hundred percent apple argues the ruling prioritizes ad tech companies over user privacy
204:32 Yeah, uh, yeah And says a t t
204:37 App tracking transparency gives users clear control over dragon, which is great applies equal
204:42 Equally to all developers, which is great. Well, hold on. Does it apply equally to apple? That's the one thing
204:47 That's what I thought this was gonna talk about And does it does it actually not?
204:53 Apply to apple. Yeah, I mean I don't use I don't know man the first time you log into an iphone
204:58 It's pretty full of ads to use apple services like iCloud and stuff like that. I don't know that necessarily
205:06 Qualifies as a targeted ad, but I would say that an iCloud subscription to someone who owns an iphone
205:12 Yeah, I'd call that a targeted ad Interesting anyway interesting line carry on not saying I disagree but interesting line. I don't think it's quite the same
205:21 No, I understand what you're saying. It also isn't
205:25 Not a targeted ad totally. Yeah, if they know i'm out of storage
205:28 for my photos And they give me the second it becomes storage-based it feels like it's a little bit more so
205:36 Ah, it's still it's still like they are still technically different things and they sure as hell aren't offering me
205:40 A cloud storage option from anyone else. Yeah, does apple do anti-competitive things? Oh, yeah
205:46 Yeah, one drive for your iphone, but is app tracking transparency?
205:51 Uh requiring apps to ask users for permission before tracking them one of them
205:57 Yeah, that one I'm more with apple on
206:01 And someone asks is this analogous to one drive in microsoft
206:05 Uh, absolutely. Yeah, and it's just as f***ing ridiculous. Yeah, see that's the whole thing, right?
206:11 Is I often get told i'm hating on apple
206:14 But I hate it exactly the same if microsoft does it
206:19 So maybe Possibly what I hate is the behavior and the attitude
206:25 And there's a lot of that on microsoft. Oh
206:28 The the decision follows a similar ruling in france earlier this year where apple was fined 150 million
206:33 euros over the same feature
206:37 I like this feature though. Yeah
206:40 I I really don't care about anything that apple does that is a big middle finger to the targeted ad industry man back with
206:48 I I don't I think this comparison makes sense back when tell us was cool
206:51 They would call you when your contract was about up and be like look we can go kind of two different paths here
206:58 We can get you more performance for the same price or same performance for less price
207:03 Choose your path and it was always like what a great phone call to receive and then they stopped doing that because they're dumb
207:09 Um, I don't have a I got an email from them like talking about a few things because I called them out for a practice
207:15 That I was going to like actually go after them for and then they fix it so things are good. Um
207:21 But I also called that out because I was like this was such an amazing phone call
207:24 I would get a call every like two years. It would be from tell us I would see tell us on the caller id and be excited because I was like nice. I'm either getting faster internet or
207:33 Less money being taken away. There was a great call every time
207:37 blah blah blah their argument was that like people hated the calls
207:40 I'm like there is no way that people hated those calls more than their bill going up without them knowing that it's happening
207:47 Or their neighbor getting a better deal than they are just because they didn't know
207:51 Yeah, so like there's actually that's just a bs excuse
207:54 And they could have also done it as an email if people don't like the calls
207:57 Definitely figured out that this just like they could have applied it automatically cost you money. Yeah. Yeah
208:04 There were many other there were many other paths to take so like don't tell me the the thing
208:09 Tim 000x3 says the do not track button on iphone is the reason that I use iphone
208:15 Yeah, there are apps that I desperately need on Android, but I can't justify it
208:19 I could use a hardened version of Android But the best one to do that with is for the pixel graphing os shout out and I don't want to give money to google tim
208:28 I have an idea for you buy a secondhand pixel
208:32 You can have a pixel you can run graphing os you can give google zero dollars
208:37 Just just an idea just a thought pretty good wgd 118 says Linus
208:41 Do you have more knowledge about the targeted ad industry now that you're buying ads for LTT Store for the backpack and screwdrivers?
208:48 I'll be honest with you. I am not buying those ads I don't know anything more about it other than
208:54 You know what I know from like the news and you know learning about it and stuff
208:58 Yeah, the the other part of what I was going to say is whenever my phone mentions like
209:03 Hey, we noticed that these apps have
209:07 Privacy features on them or whatever and you don't use these apps very much. Do you want to remove their privacy features?
209:12 That's such a like Thanks, bro. It's such a bro notification. Thanks for sending me that. I wanted to see that. Thank you very much
209:19 Even if I'm like, no, those are fine Very happy to receive that notification. Just like that. Tell us call. There are certain things this app
209:27 Tracking transparency. I want that pop-up. That's a great pop-up. Thanks for giving me that pop-up
209:33 Heck, yeah anyways Moving on
209:38 Is that it for topics? Yeah, it's after dark. You have a thing up here playing expedition 33. Oh, yeah, I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, good
209:48 I'm playing on the gpd win five, which is
209:51 Oh, that's the big chonker one, right? No. Oh, it's the
209:56 reasonable sized one That apple vision pro style
210:00 has a tether to a battery that like you could put in your pocket
210:05 Except This is pretty funny. He just played in bed. I put it in my pocket
210:11 Um, when I was sitting at the at the kitchen nook table eating my bedtime cereal
210:18 That I'm back on because I lost a bunch of weight. So what's the downside?
210:23 I made that Not really how that works, but hey, whatever
210:27 Well, what am I going to do gain back my weight like I'm still exercising. So whatever which honestly, I was clearly calorie calorie deficit
210:39 So if I'm just going to like consume some more calories and keep working out
210:44 I was I was playing badminton with a former Canadian Olympian. Uh, is this yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. Uh, she's she's super chill
210:56 Wrong one That would be impressive. There we go. Yeah, so uh, she came by smash. Yeah, she came by smash champs and was hanging with us
211:06 And uh, her thank you the facilities her and her husband bobby millroy who is also um
211:12 Back in the day Pretty pretty hardcore. He was a little younger here
211:19 um, but yeah, absolutely like They're older than me and Yvonne, but they were pros
211:25 Right, and it's just it shows. It's a completely different
211:30 level like they can just They can hit the straight shot
211:35 And and straight shot doesn't mean straight. It just means the um, the highest probability shot from that position
211:42 You kind of get what I mean by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, so they can hit the straight shot and they can like keep a rally going with us or they can just like
211:50 Do like a double like a double pump or like uh, like a weird
211:53 Sort of like, you know slice shot or whatever and then just
211:57 We call it an ankle breaker And they can just have you moving completely the wrong direction and like it goes the other way
212:03 And they can just like end the rally kind of anytime they want Um, anyway, what was I talking about?
212:10 Uh, expedition 33 and then oh, yeah expedition 33. So anyway, the point is I've been exercising
212:16 I don't care about my bedtime cereal deal with this. Um, oh, I however, that's fine. However, it can lead to problems
212:23 See, I was sitting there playing expedition 33 with the battery in my pocket
212:28 And I was actually done eating my cereal, which is good
212:31 Because I had the bowl with just like a little bit of milk and and my spoon and I went to get up and grab something
212:37 And I dragged the I dragged the gpd win five off the table which hit the bowl which
212:45 Fortunately, it didn't break went onto the floor like splashed milk everywhere and everything lived and it goes to show
212:53 How Changeable our habits can be because there was a time in my life when I was constantly attached to a discman
213:03 when I would have been sure to gather up all my things before I
213:08 Got up from a table But I am no longer that man
213:13 Bluetooth headphones. I was just gonna say have changed my habits. I I've been uh, you know working around the house
213:20 Things are getting extremely close to being done
213:23 Uh, but I've been wearing some bluetooth headphones while I'll like maybe I'll sit and do something for a little bit
213:28 And then go do something else whatever. Yeah, and I'll do I'll do this
213:34 To move the cable that isn't there And it like I'll like I'll go to get up and I'll move the cable out of the way so that I'm not gonna like step on it
213:42 Or whatever is such a drug dude, and it's uh, I just feel so weird every time I do it
213:48 And I don't contact anything and I'm like, oh, where's the cable? Then I have to remember that I'm wearing bluetooth headphones. Oh, this is so strange. That's hilarious. Yeah
213:56 Oh lordy Ew people are talking about pouring the milk first and then putting cereal in it's so incorrect
214:04 It bothers me. Have you banned people on the full plane jet? Yeah, we should
214:08 Oh, that's that's a good good. That is literally a wrong opinion. Have you heard about this true nas stitching smart tests? Yvonne does it
214:16 Oh, she's a milk first then cereal person. So here's her justification. Hold on
214:24 She doesn't like soggy cereal and she doesn't like
214:29 Rapid top-upper, so she'll top it up. Yeah
214:32 However, I think that's acceptable. I that is like one of the few times
214:36 If you're pouring milk into a bowl and you bring the cereal with you. Yeah, she'll have the cereal at hand on the table
214:43 She gets a pass. That's that's allowed. Yeah So she gets a pass. Yep. Yep. Yep
214:50 I still don't like it I still don't like it either, but she gets a pass but in the same way just like I don't like it when the toilet paper roll
214:59 goes goes uh
215:03 Under instead of over I understand why and cat owners will understand why
215:10 That's right. Yeah, they go like this and it doesn't unravel. Yeah
215:14 There can be good reasons to do bad things
215:20 Speaking of anything about that I don't we have no notes on this. I don't think it's a topic
215:25 But true nas is ditching smart tests Do you have thoughts? Yeah. Oh wait, I haven't talked about expedition 33 yet. Okay. Yeah, we'll come back
215:32 I like it and I especially like playing it on the wing five that thing is a monster
215:38 It's Strix halo. Oh, okay. Yeah
215:41 Yeah, this is like an over 2000 us dollar handheld
215:45 What a sick name with a with a frickin like umbilical cord on it like it's it's the least sensible
215:53 Like most out-of-touch device that I've probably used since the vision pro
215:59 Which conveniently also had the same tether problem. Not conveniently inconveniently
216:04 And conveniently enough that I don't think they're making anymore Apparently they're cutting production back, which to me is a big surprise because
216:12 I Wouldn't have thought they were making them at all at this point. I would have thought they would have plenty of
216:16 Inventory from their first I think there are some professional use cases that are like pretty stoked on it. Cool. Good, but not very many. Yeah
216:24 That that's good. I have you have you played expedition 33. No, is your computer back up and running?
216:29 It was and it is no longer nice because now we're solid
216:34 My dad was putting baseboards in when I left the house today
216:38 And they're being painted over the weekend and then things will be getting put back in place next week
216:43 Okay, cool Anyway, not that you need me to endorse it given that it practically swept the game awards
216:50 But I am enjoying the crap out of it and I am
216:54 I'm doing something kind of different and and fun with it. I am playing it in french, which
216:59 I That's cool. I'm way I need subbed. I need subtitles. Sure, but that's cool. But what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to understand
217:08 The dialogue Oh, that's pretty sick And then I'm and I'm checking and what's funny is the reason that I started doing it was completely not for that
217:16 It was not to practice my french comprehension. It was because I like playing jrp or rpgs. Sorry. I like playing rpgs
217:25 Um, sorry Well, I'll call it a jrpg. It's not developed by it. Yeah. Yeah
217:31 But I like playing rpgs not with english dialogue. Isn't it japanese style not japanese developer?
217:38 It is But I don't know. There's a lot of western influence in this one too. I wouldn't okay. There's a lot of japanese influence
217:44 but yeah, no, I just Yeah, I
217:48 F RPG what it definitely is is an rpg. Sure. Yeah, so let's go with that got it
217:53 And so I don't like english dialogue because I come from the rpg era where everything was text and there was no voice acting
218:01 And when they added voice acting that actually really like slowed down my
218:08 That's such a lightest ruffle my ability to play the game
218:14 And I find it a lot less
218:18 If they're going to If I'm gonna skip through something
218:22 Oh, that totally makes sense I actually find it way less distracting if the dialogue is in I so I'll usually set it to japanese because
218:29 Usually japanese is an option. So if I want to so I played final fantasy tactics like this
218:34 I get to enjoy the original japanese intonation. Yeah with my
218:39 English Comprehension and I can skip it in the middle of a sentence. It's not really an effect
218:45 And I'll never know the difference. So that was what I actually was setting out to do
218:49 I went to switch it to japanese because I didn't know or care which
218:53 Other options there were because I was like, that's what I always do. I always just switch it to japanese
218:58 And then the first option was actually french and I was like, oh, yeah
219:01 That makes sense. Why don't I try that and I'll see if it like bothers me
219:06 Because I have a little bit of comprehension of it I'll I'll see if it works the same way and I find french no offense to japanese
219:13 No offense whatsoever. I find french to be a very beautiful language to just hear
219:20 More so than japanese. Sorry. Sorry my personal opinion. You can ban me for it
219:27 And I switched it over and I understood more than I thought I would and I was like, okay
219:31 Well, this is a fun little exercise. Why don't I why don't I try to like pick up my french comprehension a little bit?
219:37 It's really tough with like Thickly accented characters. Oh, yeah and stuff. I can imagine but with all of the playable characters so far
219:48 um, there's a lot of like vocab that I'm missing but
219:52 It's been yeah, it's been good. It's been fun. I I think I've told you about this before but the first time
219:57 We went to germany for like the sennheiser thing. I think that was the first time I went to germany for work
220:01 um It was really interesting because I had taken a little bit of german in high school
220:06 I was definitely not fluent, but I knew some stuff and I could have like extremely basic conversations
220:11 Um, and then it had been many years. So I had lost most of that and there was there's no
220:17 I don't know anywhere around here that I could converse with so it was just loss for years
220:21 You could try to speak german to me and I sure. Yeah, I can give you one of those. I can't anymore
220:26 Which is part of the story But the the first time we went it was very interesting because I could I could pick up on a lot
220:32 I could kind of understand the point of a conversation even though I might not necessarily understand all the details and right
220:37 I could maybe order things at certain like restaurants and stuff like that
220:42 Um, ask for the receipt do basic transactional stuff like that one worst, please. Yeah, you're best stuff like that
220:48 Yeah, I could understand numbers things like that
220:51 And then big gap in time I went there again. I was going to say this year, but I guess last year
220:57 Um, but but like not that long ago last year
221:01 And I had lost a bunch of it Again Make sense make sense
221:05 But there was still definitely thing like he said v gates
221:08 There there are still definitely things where I can like pick up
221:12 the general idea of what's happening and it's it's very like mentally stimulating german probably has a word for that like the
221:19 The idea schlagen vinzer
221:23 Yeah, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. Um, okay, apparently I will not be banned
221:28 Um for enjoying french as long as I don't watch anime in french
221:33 Okay, seems fair enough. That that does seem that does seem like you have an situation
221:39 Yeah, I think that gets a pass. That seems fair enough. That makes sense
221:42 Uh, okay. What did you want to talk about next? Uh, the smart test true nas. They're ditching smart tests. Oh, yeah
221:47 I don't like it And this is this is they say they're not reliable yet another reason that I backed hexos is that I just
221:56 So true nas's position is that you can just use a third party tool for it
222:01 And that's cool But that's one of the reasons that true nas which is great and I'm so glad that it underpins hexos
222:09 investment disclosure But that's one of the reasons that for general consumers. It's an even prosumers
222:15 It's just not something that I can recommend with a straight face because unless you're
222:21 You do this for fun Or you know, you already have to do it at work anyway, so you know how it all works
222:27 It's just not practical to administer for the average enthusiast even
222:33 And if you are one of the people out there who considers yourself an average enthusiast and you totally administer true nas and you love it
222:40 Then congratulations. You're not an average enthusiast and that's fine
222:44 You're you're like really into it. And that's that's super cool. And that's really great. And here's a gold star for you
222:52 But most of even the LTT community is not going to want to dig through some of the arcane
222:59 crap that True nas forces you to jump through sometimes to do very very seemingly simple things
223:06 Which you know, again, like you said, you might do it for fun. That might be part of the entertainment. Absolutely. It might also not be
223:17 Okay, I think we're done topics Dan
223:21 Yippie doopie
223:27 Nice Nice
223:31 What were people like him today? Were they picking up the new uh, the new shirt or like let's have a look
223:37 bit set crash out to shirt and uh, bit set. Oh big case. Oh nice nice quality
223:44 All right, I got some messages here for you guys. Nice. Greetings WAN.dll from the UK
223:50 Question for Linus about his hands on with the steam frame. How well did the frame accommodate a large
223:58 nose speaking of someone with a big ol schnoz myself pretty good actually
224:03 Uh, I definitely need to spend some more time with it. I need to play longer sessions
224:10 Where I'm moving my head around like I want to I want to yeah, you had like no time
224:15 Yeah, and I look I'm not I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist or whatever
224:20 But I think valve did not want me
224:23 To make as deep a video as they know that I will and that I did because that might be true. I mean
224:30 Yeah, that wouldn't even necessarily be that unreasonable. No
224:34 But also then don't tell us everything. This was completely within your control to
224:42 Like they didn't have to have a transparent version of it that we could like see into
224:47 Like you know, like if you want to control the scope of the coverage
224:51 There's a lot of other ways to do it. I'll be so sick if they sold that one other than forcing me to
224:56 Other than forcing me to have like not enough time to do a good job. Anyway, I
225:01 Not the point. The point is that before I made a definitive statement on that. I would really want to
225:07 um Play for longer sessions, especially in games where I'm moving around quite a lot because
225:15 Sometimes it's not obvious immediately, but little movements and jiggles can kind of
225:20 They can wear away, especially if they like really, you know hit on the the hard parts right here
225:25 Or or here's an alternate answer
225:28 My opinion is that it's
225:33 Which is not It's not well, okay
225:37 It could be more valid than anyone else's because I've actually tried it
225:40 But I was trying to I was trying to demonstrate a point if you don't know
225:44 Then you should just say you don't know you shouldn't make definitive statements. Yeah
225:50 Wait, I think I figured out a way to ban Linus
225:56 From where
226:03 Nice See I was imagining that he had some kind of like low color depth filter and I was going to be banned or something
226:11 Oh I thought he was going to replace your side with a frame with you not sitting there
226:17 Oh, that'd be pretty good too, which I still thought was happening when he slid in the
226:21 I don't have any plates. I moved the camera today a mirror I know a new laptops too. I mean a mirror of luke's side would actually be pretty funny, too
226:29 Can I even do that? I bet you could figure that out
226:33 That'd be kind of you could be kind of hard to watch though. I know it uncomfortable. I know how I could do that in obs
226:42 You throwing shade on remix. No, I'm gonna have to ban you now
226:46 I just have never used remix. I don't know anything about it
226:49 Next up gearing up for the first plane trip 13 hours with our three month old
226:55 Because of a family emergency double
226:59 I wonder if you had some memorable difficult things with the used to be newborns
227:05 Oh, man. Yeah, we did uh, we did a trip to asia to see von's family when my second was I think one
227:13 or like one and change and
227:17 I wouldn't wish traveling with an infant or even a toddler honestly on anyone
227:23 Not on long-haul flights Like if you're just doing a little one and you can just like zonk them out on the ipad for a couple of hours
227:30 That's probably fine, but as soon as you're getting over like
227:35 Four hours on the plane they get and see they get cranky
227:39 they don't They don't know how to sleep. They don't let you sleep. Like it's just
227:46 a recipe for misery, man. I
227:50 I'm I'm sorry for whatever you're going through in your family emergency and I'm double sorry now that you are
227:57 Having to take a three month old traveling with you and I think that
228:01 Like I had someone like profusely apologizing to me for their kid crying on a flight recently because they were like right in front of me
228:08 I was like Bro
228:14 Why do you think I brought these you're good I get it it's part of the experience you just have to
228:19 You don't want to be here either. I know you don't want to be here 10 times as much as I don't want you here
228:26 so like You know if I don't want to deal with that
228:31 It used to bother me a bunch and then eventually I just accepted we're all cattle in a tube
228:36 dealing with their own problems and you just gotta you gotta
228:40 Just own the confines of your little seat area that you have make it the best experience you can given all the variables around you
228:46 And get through to the other end. That's really not that deep Do they just like not want to pay the check bag fee or what?
228:54 You know All right, next up a little crate
228:59 Cats or the parrots or whatever um, all right, let's see
229:04 Is it is it is a natural monopoly in a high barrier of entry industry like a bad thing in the case of asml
229:13 It seems more of a reward for technological innovation which incentivizes innovation
229:21 So when luke and I say monopoly bad competition good
229:26 Our perspective is as consumer aligned
229:31 representatives from the media
229:36 Does that kind of make sense and in general? I think that we have benefited more in our lives from competition than from
229:45 um successful
229:49 Companies monopolizing their industries
229:53 um I would also say that even if that disproportionate or maybe even not even disproportionate
230:02 Even if that high reward could incentivize others to try to compete
230:09 during that time of One ring ruling them all and others attempting but failing to compete
230:17 Is a bad time for consumers
230:21 That just didn't need to exist if there was always competition
230:27 the whole way through so Yes, I can see your argument that it is good to have a really big reward for
230:37 Really big investment and ingenuity and perseverance
230:43 But from a consumer standpoint, that is not the ideal
230:48 situation we would rather have More than one competitor in any given space
230:53 Yeah
230:56 That's it. What was the what was the core question?
231:01 um Can you not see the merit in a in a in a monopoly like asml because
231:10 The huge reward for winning the entire market should incentivize others to chase that huge reward
231:17 That's okay. I think you already answered it. I wasn't fully paying attention, but I mean
231:25 That's literally an argument for competition, but anyways
231:32 Had a great white shark show up on a dive two weeks ago
231:37 Video is amazing. Are you all keeping up with your diving and what animals or locations are still on the bucket list?
231:44 I have not Used it like practically at all. I think the last time I went was diving with denis
231:51 On mexico work occasion. Oh Whoa That was i was going to say i'm pretty sure i'm more up to date than you
231:57 I might be further asserted than you at this point
232:00 I think i'm only open water. Okay. Yeah
232:04 Yeah, I honestly don't know if I really care about that because even with open water
232:08 You can do a wreck dive as long as your dive master is asserted to guide open water divers on a wreck dive
232:14 You can do a deep dive even if the
232:17 As long as they're asserted to take you on it like I don't I could be wrong about this. Do not take this as a quote
232:22 I think there are still slightly different
232:25 Uh Limitations I guess oh and actually now that I think about it when we did that we were taking our advanced open water
232:34 So maybe that was the context of it. We Yvonne and I like passed our advanced open water
232:39 But we were like you didn't teach us anything
232:44 Oh, we just went on a bunch. We did it in mexico So we did our our open water here in vancouver and then we did our advanced open water in mexico
232:51 And they just like took us on a bunch of advanced dives We were like we're supposed to know all this like underwater navigation stuff like you didn't show us any of this
232:58 We just followed you around and they were like don't worry about that. I'm like no, I am worried about that
233:02 I don't want a certificate a certificate that I didn't earn I was concerned about this but did my advanced open water in greece
233:09 And uh, it was actually awesome. The dude was like pretty hardcore about like you're gonna do this, right?
233:16 Um, when we were doing the knot tying stuff. He had me do it, uh, blind
233:21 That's cool because he was like you might get you might not have a mask on yeah
233:25 There might be a problem. You might still have to tie that knot. So you need to be able to do it with your eyes
233:29 You might be on a night dive You might be really deep
233:32 So there might be a variety of variables. You need to be able to do it with your eyes closed and he also made me do underwater nav
233:38 um With no references other than kicks
233:45 Oh Interesting. I had to track. So there was one like pair of yeezys
233:52 Uh
233:57 Basically I had to be able to get back He we'd like swim up to a certain point and then I had to be able to go in like
234:03 Uh, a square and basically any direction and end up back where I started
234:07 Oh, that's cool And I wasn't allowed to have like a little navigation computer or whatever. I had to do it all just with kicks
234:13 Um, and it was not he purposely brought us to unclear water, right? And was there a current too?
234:20 Uh, I think we did that at one point. Yeah
234:23 um And he I don't remember the the deal behind it
234:27 But he taught me how to like try to do that a little bit better and he was like, you know
234:30 It's not going to be perfect, but if you're trying to get back to a boat
234:33 You can kind of use this information to help you get back to a boat
234:38 Which but yeah, he was awesome actually
234:41 Yeah Hi all
234:46 You've taught a lot of people some have started their own businesses with confidence
234:51 What do you try to do as a mentor and boss to help people grow? What was your favorite teachable moment?
234:58 Oh, man, this is a heavy question. I mean, I don't you might not be able to say I don't think that I'm
235:05 Uh, I'm a business mentor necessarily. I'm I'm just
235:10 I'm fumbling my way through this School of hard knocks
235:15 I didn't go to business school. I um
235:19 I don't know man. And a lot of the stuff that we do is not best practice
235:26 I mean, that's gonna be true for every business. Sure. I laugh, but that is true for every business
235:30 I just I just mean we do not like optimize
235:34 a lot of the time We need to do a bit more optimizing
235:38 We do need to do a bit more optimizing. I mean, we do need to be doing some some optimization
235:41 I mean, look, I I wrote how does LMG spend money this week? Um
235:47 And It definitely
235:50 Was that your feeling for you? Like did you learn things in that process 100%?
235:55 It hardcore flagged for me things that are going to need to be optimized. Um
236:02 Actually, uh here, let me see there was, um
236:06 Chewie put together some
236:10 Why can I never find people when I'm looking for them there it is
236:14 Yeah, Chewie put together some stuff like basically
236:17 Uh, we've made a lot of decisions as we've been rapidly growing that like made sense in isolation
236:24 Yeah, um, but now that we're not no longer do rapidly growing
236:28 Do not necessarily make sense anymore. Um, we've accumulated a lot of process debt
236:34 um We've accumulated a lot of sort of band-aid
236:40 solutions that Again made sense at the time, but probably don't make sense now. Um
236:47 Lots of those we Something that I don't really talk about in detail in the how does LMG spend money because it's meant to be sort of a snapshot of a
236:56 particular moment in time rather than a look at trends is that
237:00 As we've expanded our payroll and we'll talk about this part in more detail in the uh
237:07 In the video, but as we've as we've looked at
237:10 improving our compensation overall We have
237:13 scaled comp In a way that is not
237:17 In line with our revenue scaling And that's been going on for a fairly extended period of time now like on the order of years
237:27 Um View counts have been getting better
237:31 You know, we've been we're we're kind of we're back to a more sustainable
237:35 Sort of overall viewership, but with that said the youtube game is getting more cutthroat
237:40 You can upload it used to be that if you uploaded a banger video
237:44 You might get two million views on it and if you uploaded a total downer video, you might get one million views
237:49 Now your banger video might hit three million
237:53 Four million, but your downer video might get 400 000. So you don't have that same right predictable
238:00 Yeah, a little bit more floor. It's down in the basement now
238:04 And that's that's harder to that's harder to sell to sponsors. That's harder to
238:08 Capitalize on for yourself like when we're promoting a big deal on lttstore.com or something like that
238:13 And the video that we have that goes up promoting it like we can see the difference in performance when
238:18 It's a half a million view video versus if it's like a two three million view banger, right?
238:26 This was a fun one capital expenditures They get the most attention right like when we buy a fire truck
238:30 Or we buy a big led wall or we buy like uh, uh, a huge
238:36 Sound chamber or a thermal chamber. Yeah, or a three-stage chiller. Yeah fugger or whatever
238:42 Capital expenditures are under one percent of our spend
238:45 under one So, you know, that's a weird bucket to define though. I guess almost everything's going to be a weird bucket
238:51 Well, yeah, it's in how you define it. So we define A lot of what some companies might call cap X
238:57 Would be we have under sort of an umbrella that we call overhead
239:00 Okay, and so so for us we defined our capital expenditures as
239:05 Sort of outlier purchases particularly for content or for or for product testing
239:11 So, you know looking at it like Those are all videos that performed well or series of videos that
239:19 Will will perform well over time, right? Um, and it's just it's a lot of little things that you only really notice
239:27 When you write it down and when you like graph it
239:31 And start to really look at it and go like okay now hold on a second like
239:36 Does this make sense for how much it contributes to the business?
239:41 Does this make sense for how much it contributes to the business?
239:45 Up or down in any case. So
239:48 It's the kind of thing that when you're just wait. Yeah, when you're when you're building the plane as you're flying it
239:52 You don't really look at it that closely, but we've had
239:56 um A couple years now of lower
240:00 Production targets like I don't know if people have like noticed this
240:05 But I think they have I think they just stopped commenting on it because it was so long We used to have like a hundred ish people. We are now up to like 120 people
240:15 and um, we used to do six LTT's a week plus wanshow plus two tech quickies
240:22 Plus three tech links plus two game links plus two to four short circuits plus
240:29 um Shoot there's one i'm missing. I don't think channel super. Oh, yeah. No Channel Super Fun did overlap with that schedule for a while
240:36 Plus a Channel Super Fun Shoot i'm sure i'm missing something
240:41 What am I missing? Oh, yeah, plus Mac Address whenever that got uploaded
240:46 um And our head count Has not appreciably changed
240:51 In this time that we've been doing anywhere from Realistically about three and a half LTT's a week is what we've been averaging
240:59 We completely hiatus to Techquickie Completely hiatus GameLinked completely hiatus to Mac Address
241:06 Um, did I already say Techquickie? I think I already said Techquickie sure. Um
241:12 And people Feel very like overworked and I don't think that they're necessarily
241:20 Just like lying about that So that then leans back to what we were kind of previously talking about of like what are we doing? Yeah
241:28 Process overhead. Where's where's the loss? What are we spending our time on this engine has a lot of
241:35 energy waste In in potentially variety of areas
241:40 So I think that's um, I think that's something that we're going to be reflecting on
241:46 Heavily over the next little while. Yeah
241:49 Anyway, you guys can expect that video probably a little bit after ceas. I think elijah. I saw him turning through the guidance for it
241:57 um That's kind of that's kind of getting to be a bit of a like
242:00 Superpower of his like he did the guidance for the the RAM crisis video that we uploaded earlier this week
242:06 I thought he just uh him and uh, who was who was the editor for that guidance makes sense in my brain
242:12 um Hold on. I'm trying to remember. I think it might have been kendrick
242:18 I'm gonna double check though because I don't want to give credit to the wrong people
242:23 So this video a really cool video Special thanks to the ecc squad seriously though. Shout out the ecc squad. You guys rock
242:31 Uh, hold on. Here's the regular credits
242:36 Where's my editor? Yeah, Kendrick. Kendrick was the editor. Um, so yeah between him and um,
242:42 And andrew and Kendrick. I thought they just did a really good job of maintaining really cohesive
242:49 Visuals throughout it that made it really engaging. I thought they yeah, just an outstanding job
242:52 I technically I don't know this because I am actually, you know, not the one who determines once and for all if a video is good
243:01 um You guys get to decide that I haven't actually looked at the retention for it
243:05 But to me it felt like a very
243:09 Pleasant short watch relative to its runtime and that's usually a pretty solid indicator
243:16 I've been doing this for a while and I usually
243:19 Have a decent sense but I don't always get it right though, right?
243:23 Not even not not at all could not claim that
243:27 I could try to claim that but then I'd be a big liar. Yeah retention is really strong. It's like well above average. Nice. Yeah
243:35 Yeah, so good job guys
243:38 Hey lld got the wife interested in the tech house series
243:43 What ideas do you have for a spouse approved slash hidden tech going to be following and upgrading along the way?
243:49 Thanks for the amazing content. I mean a big one is um
243:55 I think we're going to be getting a lot better at
243:59 wiring and cable management because I'm a big fan of
244:04 Eliminating batteries and wireless technology from my life
244:08 And I'd like to find ways to do things as wired as possible while maintaining really strong
244:15 spouse approval factor So this is a bit of a derail
244:19 But part of the my place will be kind of fresh plan
244:22 Is that I want to have some self-hosted iot things going on and some other stuff happening
244:28 Uh for once and one of the problems that I've ran into that
244:32 You know, I'm probably gonna try to solve it before the tech house. I guess but where our computers are going to be now
244:39 There's a cat 5e through the wall That cable in the wall. I still haven't done the testing because again, I've been focused on
244:47 Other grander stuff, but it could be yeah that too. It could be
244:51 um The the short cable going from router to patch instead of the cable through the wall
244:58 But I think it's a cable through the wall Uh that cable might be messed up
245:02 The second a significant load happens my computer like it's blinking Ethernet cable and I lose all networking
245:09 Hopefully it's just the termination hopefully
245:12 Hopefully but I don't know so I might have to figure out how to gonna learn to fish that cable nice solid
245:21 Everything with this place just turns into like oh, here's a new project that I've never had to try to figure out how to do before
245:26 And you're finally going to finish it and then you're going to go. You know what?
245:31 Maybe it's time to Yeah, I've been
245:36 I've been uh rather aware of that
245:39 Yeah, no comment. That's uh, that's your thing to figure out in terms of your timing. Yeah, but uh, yeah cool
245:47 Good luck with that Yeah, that's the both ends. You can just pull a new. Yeah, I know
245:52 My problem is how it fishes through depends on if it's like stapled to the studs and stuff too. I don't know that
245:59 um, and it's it's Very far from reasonable angles and stuff and seeing how this place was put together
246:08 It'll either be just draped there and easy to do because no one cared to do it properly or it'll be like
246:14 Oh, I don't know 17 staples in one spot for no apparent reason. Um, so we'll see. Oh, here's a quick one
246:21 Uh, the pebble round two Was apparently just announced
246:26 That looks good. Yeah, it looks actually pretty
246:29 Sick. Wow. I get it though. That's very funny
246:33 Round two. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right
246:38 That's pretty good. All right. That's all As a former kiyoksia employee
246:44 I was amazed to see the fab tour you got Surprising they let you see more than I could working there
246:51 What's your take on how the audience liked it and what's next hopefully more is next I love doing that kind of thing
246:57 And yeah, I was I was very impressed and pleased with the amount of access that we were able to get
247:03 Uh, it was a battle to get as much access as we did. I can tell you that
247:08 um, we had a meeting with
247:11 As many as I think it was like 20 people in the room and another 20 on the call
247:16 um, sort of talking through the plan for the next day after our first day of shooting and like
247:21 To be to be clear. I don't mean this in like a disrespectful way or like a an antagonistic way
247:28 These sorts of things are always kind of a battle
247:32 Yeah, because these are closely guarded corporate secrets that have never been
247:39 Talked about or seen before like like to your point you could work there and not see things that we saw
247:45 And so I understand why they're a little cagey about
247:48 Us walking around in there with like people aren't allowed to like bring their phone in
247:52 And because they might snap a picture here in there and we're walking around with a full kit, right?
247:58 Um and
248:01 It was incredible and I'd love to do more of it if there's other companies that you know want to
248:07 Want to chop through all the red tape that's involved in getting us that kind of access so that we can
248:13 Bring people along for the ride and help them really appreciate
248:16 What it is that you guys are doing over there then we're we're super down. I love it
248:22 Oh, I haven't seen it yet, but apparently veritasium did a really cool video this week on asml's um
248:28 Incredible this I've not seen it. Oh good. That's cool. What is it? Does he like go there? Yeah
248:34 Oh, that's it and they go into some really technical details and it's just awesome. He's a phenomenal job
248:40 Uh, last one I've got for you today. Hey luke heard that getting tips from wendell on
248:47 Building an llm server. Would there be a chance to follow along with your home lab journey?
248:53 I don't know. Maybe I I'm starting to question its feasibility
248:58 Based on GPU pricing I've got a couple you can borrow if you want. Yeah, we'll see. I definitely I so I've got a variety of goals
249:06 um But yeah, we'll we'll see how this stuff
249:11 gets Sorted out over time. There's like um
249:16 I've been preaching local llm for a long time So I really want to actually do it because I don't want to be like telling people that they should look into it and not
249:24 Look into it myself. That seems lame. I don't know
249:27 No, where you're coming where you're getting at with this. You have a variety of what and that has to do with the local
249:34 AI server Gulls
249:37 Gulls goals goals. I know. I'm just playing these you said goals
249:42 Okay Um, there's only got one sinus leave alone. Yeah, I really
249:49 Um, sorry, but yeah, I've been having a bunch of fun watching. Yeah, jeff geerling and wendell and other people's stuff
249:56 I've wanted to do homelabby things for a long time
249:59 um So this is going to be my my dive into that both on the networking and the server side of things
250:06 I want to do In a lot of cases self-developed in some cases just self-hosted iot things
250:13 I want to do some self-hosted services. I want to have my own
250:17 Um home video distribution Um instead of just borrowing others
250:21 Um, I there's a lot of different goals. I'm easy
250:26 You'd be crazy not to buy it
250:34 But uh, I mean my family does like this holiday valheim server
250:38 We've this is the second year in a row that we've done it. Um
250:41 But it's like the the thing the solution that we've had is like kind of unstable and lags a lot and
250:48 There's issues with it. So like if I could just host that myself. Yeah, that would be sweet
250:52 Like there's just a lot of things where I'm like, this is honestly very overdue
250:56 um, so I'm trying to start figuring it out but
251:00 Going from zero to the point that I want to be at is like a lot
251:03 So I'm trying to research and learn things and figure out how I want to step into this realm
251:09 Old tom asks how often do you think of the roman empire?
251:12 These days for reasons that I don't really feel like I need to get into
251:19 Kind of a lot
251:23 We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel
251:29 Bye
251:42 You
252:12 You