Oh, you all right well like no, I'm sick, but I'll be fine
I'll be fine
Such a long streak of not being sick dude
You were doing great, and you're doing good. Yeah
Now you're wrecked. There was two people sick at Christmas. It just
Was what it was. They got you. Yeah I
My whole family got sick over the holiday except me so if you get me then you're better than my family
I'm a better spreading Plague so like whatever
No, I care about this nothing to be proud of no, I know I care about this now. I have to be the best
That's a lot of razor wears razor comms I
Don't think the whanshow is sponsored entirely by razor. I see some some stuff going on down here
You
Razor
Now it's more razor the skin oh my goodness
Your water bottle wedges, oh wow
Oh Razor colors minus the gold aren't even
What do you mean it's green and black? It's the wrong green Yeah, and there's gold which is wrong. Yeah, but there's black which is good. Oh my god
Hey look razor colors stop it. They're actually a little closer than mine to be honest if you ignore the pink
If you ignore the primary color oh my god
I Yeah, that regime is also, you know pretty good if you ignore the genocide, you know, oh, you know that one that's a lot of them. I
Wish it was clear who I was talking
If only we lived in a world where that genocidal regime meant one
Genocidal regime and everyone knew who we were talking about. Yeah, even current one
I think avengers says you have no idea how little that narrows it down. No, that's just it. I do
And it's sad. That's the joke
It's amazing how that's the joke our community is like I love you guys, but like damn
That might be pretty much every community I wonder if Linus realizes
I
Change isn't I don't know what it is. I can't do this. I
Can't like it looks like you're doing it. No, that's that what no that looks like it the shape of an actual heart not a
Woman's butt from behind, you know You're worse. Wow. I can't do it. You're trash. I can't even hold on. Maybe it'll help if I
Oh How is it supposed to be much better than this? It's fine. It's still misshapen
Feel like mine looks like a like a terrible a fruit from like Stardew Valley or something the like little icon for it
Absolutely, people just do this easy one. No, no, they do this. No, they do this. No, this is newer
I don't think it's like half a heart on your cheek. Yeah, but I think this is where really I
Guess you have girls so you'd probably know
And that's not where I picked it up from it was from the recent gamer leg collab. Oh, yeah
Yeah, that guy would probably know
This is not a heart we're actually getting mooned no 100% that's the heart is it's it's a buttocks
It's it's not the heart. That's a thing
Really, yeah, that's that's that my understanding is that's the origin of that shape
Hmm It's a bent over, but yeah, I know it makes sense. Yeah
Love or something. We should probably start the show
Yeah, let's do it
Okay, yeah, did you guys kill me?
What you guys
We didn't kill you. You guys did was their choice
Don't don't put this on me they would dude they would all right. I'm resuming the selected here we go
You'll have to tell me down it on the thing open
You
What is up everybody and welcome to
The very last WAN Show of its type
Actually last week was the last WAN Show before some major
Well, that's a bit of a changes that we'll be talking about sure
I mean, do you agree that it's a very big change? It's sure, but I think
Framing that way makes it like less concerning
You just ruined all the No, I think it's pretty concerning. Okay
WAN Show will never be the same. We'll be talking about that. We'll also be talking about all the tech news from this week
including really
GPUs are supposed to go up in price. Yeah
No We already lived through this one
multiple times This is double jeopardy. You can't get charged for the same crime twice. You can't yeah, you you can't
Be a witness for your spouse's crime. You can't live through a GPU apocalypse twice
These are fundamental laws. This is this is we're beyond twice though
What else we got? Grock completely ruined my morning Grock is being used to generate non-consensual sexual images of both adults and children
And it's like actually as bad as it sounds. We'll talk about that later
And apparently oh, I was gonna go for bad news. No, no good news. Please please balance it out
So far we've got bad news bad news bad news. Okay, this is gonna sound like bad news
But I think it's kind of fun unlucky RTX 5080 buyer who received rocks did their own
Investigation and they got their replacement from Best Buy they want. Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. All right. Yeah
And it's kind of sick how they did it. Let's go with that
There's nothing like hacking into the files of the principal office
What's this an
energy vortex Organic life forms. Oh, I'll quit I
Seem to have a portal into a parallel universe
extraordinary savages
I'll show you Yo
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Notice and you put it If you hit the correct that way that would have been so funny
Almost it almost happened. I was so close. All right. Why don't we just intro was amazing? Who made that?
I actually don't know I would assume it was no key
I assumed that as well, but I didn't see like a thing or anything
So why don't we explain what the heck it was not on it was not who was it? I don't know
It was the team themselves. So really really that's so cool. Okay
We should explain it. Yeah reboot was a Canadian animated television series that was produced by Vancouver based mainframe
Entertainment alongside Alliance distribution and BLT productions, and it originally aired on YTV from 1994 until 2001
That's right reboot was my childhood. That's what computer animation looked like when I was a kid
Yeah, me too And it's notable for being the first made for television CGI series with full half hour episodes
Reboot rewind is an eight-part documentary series about the show that came out in 2024 and now
The documentarians are collaborating with mainframe to remaster the series from its original D1 tapes
Okay, this says last Friday because we put off this topic for a couple weeks
But recently the reboot rewind team put out an update video on the progress of the D1 tapes being recorded and Sven
Gave me the TLDR Every episode has been captured off the D1 tapes, which was non-trivial
BTS machines are being used to capture the footage at the original 576p and
LTT has actually been helping with this project for like two years now
Supplying Kyoksia drives for storing the footage as well as helping pay for some of the machines and parts of the machine
See there was a big challenge getting even a single functioning working machine to read these tapes because
Media production it moves so fast that no one's really thinking about
How we're going to preserve all of this stuff and in the early days of computer animation and digital production
The standards were hardly even standards
Yeah, and they didn't last very long and they weren't interoperable
So this and when the when the like manufacturing pipeline for making these things goes away
It's actually extremely difficult in some cases to like make bespoke parts for these things
So needing to source stuff was rather difficult. So we should have a video coming out in
2026 on LTT about this project
It's been literally years in the making now and then at the end of the video the reboot rewind host mentions
They happen to also have the D1 tapes for
Transformers Beast Wars aka Beasties as it was known in Canada along with other
Cool old CGI shows that mainframe studios worked on and they're trying to get in touch with people about remastering that stuff as well
Shout out to Brian. He's the one doing a lot of the hard work to restore each episode
Which is being meticulously checked for transfer errors and mastering glitches. Awesome. They also did the fun intro for today's episode
There you go. That was sick. That was very cool Also, Sven told me that the reboot rewind folks shared some restored cutscenes from a reboot PS1 game
Which is linked above? People will go nuts for these animated cutscenes because they've never been seen in better than PlayStation 1 FMV quality seriously
Okay, that's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Oh my god, that looks
That looks clean, dude
Holy crap
You
Now now it's let's not be petty accidents can happen
Oh Oh
This is the town
Oh
Damn dude doing this stuff back then was so crazy. I know, right? Oh
That is so cool. Anyway, um discussion question
Talk about, you know, the value of media preservation. What do we do to protect and preserve our work? Not enough?
I mean realistically, man, I feel like everyone probably feels like this in the moment. I was about to say realistically
I don't think it matters that much but then like
someone's gonna want some reference for even something as simple as
How well received was this GPU at that time?
And if we don't keep the media from that time, then we don't have it. Yeah, that's simple
And I think that's how a lot of things get forgotten, but I got to tell you like when you're in the thick of it
It's hard to it's hard to think about these things
Why don't we move on to our next big topic which is of course, oh
Sorry, I'm looking for good news We had we started with good news
We didn't sell us good news. We could do bad. You know what? No. No, let's do a little bit more
Moderate news. Okay. There is a potential workaround for expensive hardware
older hardware The Ryzen 7
5800x an AMD CPU from like five years ago has just hit the number one spot as the top selling
CPU on Amazon in the UK and Even older CPUs or even older GPUs like the 5800 XT are sitting at fourth place for GPUs on Amazon in the US
eBay is currently flooded with people selling older hardware
CPUs GPUs motherboards and yes, of course older DDR4 and even DDR3 memory and I want to shout out tech spot here
for doing a little article that Luke has actually been bugging us to do something about which we are actually working on in the background as
Well, although a slightly different angle, but doing a little article talking about
the usability of slightly older hardware they showed that if you compare CPUs they actually tested 44 CPUs and
Going as far back as the Ryzen 5
2600 in modern games like battlefield 6 you can still achieve a more than playable experience at 1080p high and I think this is a
really important thing for people to
Consider right now. It's like this is not really our discussion questions not really a question
It's more of a statement. You don't need to buy new expensive hardware, dude
My what are my buddies from from high school his son
Is currently running. I might get some of the specs wrong. Sorry, but I think it's
Like eight gigs of RAM Maybe 16, but I think it's eight a GTX 1080 and a 7000 series Intel processor and he plays
Whatever that riot game shooter is valorant and
Arc Raiders and he was saying in Arc Raiders. He was getting over 80 FPS
It's like dude, these are these are ancient pieces of hardware at this point
The 1080 doesn't even have like official continual driver support
But like I don't know whatever if it plays the game that you want to play at at like 80 something FPS
Why not? And like do I love 100 bucks spending a hundred dollars on an old
GPU no, I don't love that, but it's also a hundred bucks, but it's also a hundred bucks and there might be a better
I'm not this isn't a suggestion. That's just a a rig that I know of that's running
Yeah, no 100% and here's the thing too is like I can totally understand people not wanting, you know
Like being frustrated to hear like are you basically just you know telling me that you know two dolls ought to be enough for
For a child. They don't need 10 dolls or 20 dolls or whatever that ridiculous thing was. No, I'm not saying that at all
I'm saying that Channeling your inner scrapyard warrior is a great way to ride out times like this like I guarantee you
I don't think I've actually ever asked to loop this, but I guarantee you
That at some point he built a stopgap system
Sure something to tide you over while you waited for something else to be more affordable or something else to release or
when you were in between selling your last-generation GPU and
Waiting for a deal on a new generation one or whatever
I mean, I had like I think I've told you about this before where I was able to buy a
Platform upgrade through the Intel retail Edge program
But I couldn't afford the rest of the upgrade for like I think it was like half a year or something
And one of the ways that I was able to afford it was I sold my old platform and my old case
But that meant that I didn't have a case I got the new platform didn't have a case so I got this like hand-me-down case, but the power button didn't work
So I set up like a rubber band bow Basically and a pencil nice that was so I could reach under my monitor and poke the pencil and it would press the
On motherboard power button nice to turn the system on and I had that for at least half a year
Nice, whatever who cares and that's totally I think stuff like that's cool, and that's totally fine making stuff work is
is cool When did that not I thought it was fun. When did that not be cool? I almost always for a long time there I
Apparently don't build my own computers anymore because the last two that I've had either you or your kids have built but
Actually last three because there was a revision in that one case so last three
I mean I had a little bit to deal with the one in the middle, but still
But before then I would always include one thing that was just like a
Weird solution because I thought it was fun like there was one time I mounted my pump on a cutout piece of the mudflap of my old car to use as like sound deadening
So it was on this like rubber panel instead of a plastic panel in the case because it made it was just quieter
And it worked and it was awesome, and I like that part So don't don't like feel bad about doing things like that
I've always thought that's super cool and something that's really important to note about stopgapping is that it can even it can even
It can it can help It might feel like well
I'm buying something that is gonna like go down in value and
Effectively like waste a bunch of my money instead of the thing. I actually wanted so I might be better off just getting the thing
I wanted, but let me let me show you guys just some interesting math here, right?
So at 1080 you can acquire pretty easily for about a hundred dollars, and if you don't feel like paying shipping on it
Don't pay 200 bucks. Yeah, do not pay $200 if you don't feel like paying shipping on it
Or you worry that something that you buy on eBay might not be working Luke, and I have both
Tested GPUs that we've purchased on local marketplaces live like test it make sure that it actually works
Yeah, and the thing about an older GPU like this is that it's already
Gotten very low on its depreciation Someone in full-point chat earlier said 1080s have been around a hundred dollars for years now if we go back to like a GTX
780 Okay
Here we go. Those are still
Like 45 bucks, you know 25 bucks 70 dollars, whatever there
That and that's a two generation older card, right like wrap your brain around that
You could stop gap with this 1080 for three or four years, and it might lose another
50 to 75 dollars in value Whereas if you could wait a year or you could wait a year and a half on a current generation card
The second that gets replaced by something I guarantee you that you will gain more
By just delaying that purchase then you lost by acquiring that stopgap card and then just reselling it
Like it's I don't know man. I don't know what to tell you It's it's kind of a frustrating thing because you know how we often have that conversation where
It feels like there's this pressure from certain corners of the community for us to be more outraged for us to like
Demand that NVIDIA lower their prices as if they're gonna listen to us
And I mean I wish they would obviously prices are too high and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
But and and that's and that's all true, but at the end of the day
I mean we did that video recently explaining that it's not just NVIDIA
I mean NVIDIA has is videos a very profitable company
But so is TSMC who has a monopoly on the manufacturer of the chips NVIDIA cells and for that matter
So is a SML who has a monopoly on the machines that TSMC uses to manufacture the chips that NVIDIA sells and
Monopoly is a bound and you're talking about the entire supply chain companies that are holding up nations
Yeah, when you get to that scale and so it's one of those things where it's like yeah
I could I could like demand that NVIDIA lower their pricing, but I don't have that influence
It's it's it's so ironic right because influencer is right in my job title and yet well
I can't influence companies to change their pricing and our discussion question here is
Is it frustrating that it seems to go the other way too because for over a decade you and I have been going
Yeah, but did you have a D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yabba D yab Murder
audience that is what we sound like going hey guys you don't be heads you don't have to buy a brand new one
the second hand market exists making do with something scrappier is
Is honorable and based scrappier wars and it doesn't it doesn't even seem to mean anything
Some people get it though some people do get it every once in a while you'll see a post on the on the subreddit where someone's like I did my own
Scrapyard Wars and I came up with this or whatever. Those are your big moments for me
I Genuinely love that. This was one that was you're never gonna hit everybody. I know I know okay
This was one that was frustrating for me
This this video Bombed out of the gate like it sucked. It's done. Okay in the longer term, which is which is heartening
It's whatever the opposite of disheartening remember this having issues out the gate though
I do remember but you know what in spite of it having issues out of the gate this video about you know
Scrapyard warring like a Facebook marketplace home theater set up for a fraction of the cost of even a crappy soundbar
Did inspire? Multiple yeah see that's on the subreddit of people being like I had no idea
This is so cool. I love my setup now. Thanks for inspiring this. That's awesome. That's why we do it
That's why we play the game. I I I loved it. I'm glad when people get the point
I also find that you learn a lot more about your craft
Okay, I guess I'll concede that building computers is not quite as easy as adult Lego
but When it's all brand new out of the box stuff, it is a lot more simple and
You're often dealing with like configurators on websites that are telling you compatibility things off the hop
When you're on the use market, you're trying to
Price min max and that often means mixing things together from different sellers in different areas and
Trying to make sure that everything's gonna work and and trying to learn how to diagnose like on the spot
If you can go visit somebody and be like, hey, can I bring a test bench to test this thing?
I've done that a bunch and Learning what program you should run to try to verify if it's legit on the spot all those different types of things
You're learning stuff about your craft, which is kind of like fun and cool
I Have that old board by the way
If you want to do I don't know if you want to do a video on that or what but the JQ with the wire repair
It's at my place right now. Okay. Yeah, that's that's probably an interesting from scryer boards
Scrap yard Wars season four. There was a repair that I mean it goes above my head
I don't understand might understand, but I don't
There's a a single wire that runs from one fan header to another fan header on a very specific pin on each probably power
But if that wire isn't bridging those two fan headers
It doesn't work And if it is then it works perfectly fine and has worked perfectly fine for years like in some cases
Acting as like a 24-7 server for like months at a time and stuff like had no issues just as long as this
This wire is bridging these two fan headers and this motherboard made magic smoke at some point
Yeah, so I I don't quite I can't quite fathom it who knows
But stuff like that's awesome like I that gets me way more jazzed up than like some random new mother. What's up?
I can tell oh
Anyways off that topic
What are we supposed to be doing Dan? How's it going over there? Oh, he's chill. He's chilly
Five it out Christmas energy strong
Headline topic is technically the thing. Yeah, probably that
It's not ominous, how do you want to approach this? I mean, you're the one that keeps trying to let the cat out of the bag
I'm not about cats getting out of bags. I keep cats in bags
I'm like a cat bag kind of guy. I don't think so you leak a lot of stuff on Lancia. I mean, I don't know if you can
Yeah, but I can use the proportional argument. I thought you many things to leak. I thought you meant literal
I thought yeah, no, okay. Sure figuratively. Yes. I let a lot of cats out of bag
All of my actual cats are in a bag right now. Oh, all together. Yeah
No Um, I braced for the clarification. It's sad that it had to happen, but it didn't have to have it
the WAN Show is officially as of
yesterday under new management
What Well, not really under new management actually the management is the same but the ownership is different
This is a pretty major change going forward, but I have
I don't know. I don't know what you would call it, but I I have
abdicated half of my ownership stake of the WAN Show
People are saying sold out to
Mr. Luke. Mr. Luke Lafrenier sold out to me
It's official The WAN Show is a 50-50 partnership between me and Luke
We have We have what's it called up? We've incorporated a new media holding company
adequate media Inc. which owns the WAN Show so technically
My half of it is actually owned by me and Yvonne because we are one person
From a legal standpoint, so we own half of the WAN Show and then Luke
officially owns the other half of the WAN Show it
We've had a lot of questions over the years about you know
What is what is Luke's equity stake and and this and that and the answer has always been Linus Media Group was
founded and seed seeded by
me and Yvonne and we've owned it a hundred percent, but
the WAN Show clearly has two people in its soul and one of them is
this guy, I think that I think that for the WAN Show to
Continue to be the WAN Show forever
the only right way to safeguard its future was to
Have it be a
Linus Luke Equal partnership So the change then the big change is that
the WAN Show is is safe and
That the WAN Show will not change that's the big change well, it is a big change the WAN Show was unsafe
Well, no, I mean it then it's not a change you and I have talked about it right that you know
If you took a position somewhere else or that if I
Retired from making daily tech tips videos or whatever we'd still want to do that. We wanted to continue to do the WAN Show
But that agreement right it's verbal. It's handshake. It's you know
We're we're friends But it's not codified
It's not in black and white. Yeah, there's no actual
There's no guarantee that we'll be able to put together the correct financial incentives
to ensure that Whereas now
It's very clear
Yeah, and I mean there's still like some people are saying like oh it shouldn't be 5050 because
Someone should always be able to make decisions and stuff. I'm like, yeah, I mean
It's still kind of in Linus's hands if we're being real about things
He still owns Linus Media Group
The people who basically like run WAN Show operations wise are LTT people LMG people etc
This is not like yeah
However, it's very cool symbolically that's today. I
Don't know what I don't know what our however many years because when we've been talking about WAN Show futures
We've been talking about like That we want to keep doing this in like 20 years. Yeah plus
So this is this is a step towards it being reasonable to do this in 20 years
Exactly. I thought for today You know what will what will probably happen is there will be an agreement between
Adequate Media Inc. and Linus Media Group that Adequate Media Inc. will promote products and services like
Floatplane or creator warehouse or it or whatever and then Linus Media Group will find
Sponsorships and Realistically Luke is still employed as a as an employee of Floatplane and Linus Media Group and and all that stuff
So for today, there's no change
But for a potential future where who knows what happens
This ensures that there is a there's a strong
Incentive that's not I mean, it's not just financial to right like Luke called it symbolic
But I think it's more than just symbolic, I think it's I
think it's Well, those there's the there's the non financial part of it, right? Yeah, do we talk about that?
I mean sure. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to so go for it
Though like the the agreement that you're just talking about of like the services and whatnot are supposed to balance things out
so this isn't like a
I'm not like looting LMG. No
No, and and the idea behind it is that that would never happen and the only time that
The only time that any of this would matter would be if there was a major change to the status quo
We're just trying to get out ahead of it and make sure that everyone's on the same page that we want to make sure that
Wanshoe can continue for
Indefinitely basically however long yeah, yep keep the streak alive
Yeah, so like effectively nothing is really changing honestly internally or externally
However starting soon We will start streaming the Wanshoe on a different channel and and on the LTT channel and then over time
We will eventually some point
Stop streaming the Wanshoe on the LTT channel and it will move to a dedicated channel either
We will take over the LMG clips channel or we will create a new channel
So you guys will have to go subscribe to a new channel in order to get your notification for the Wanshoe live stream and and find the
VODs and all that Stay the path asks. What about on Floatplane? Don't worry Floatplane streaming is not going anywhere for better for worse
We were close no, yeah, we'll keep going here. Yeah
Yeah Okay, does there any is there anything else did people have any kinds of like questions a
Lot of people asking how this works for Dan Dan still works for Linus media group
he is a Incredible incredibly valued member of the team
but from like a You know there at the beginning standpoint
That that that was Luke
At this time, but I you know what I really appreciate the community's
Love of 10 Floatplane chat is
Dan they what can I say they they love you?
They love you Yeah, I'm here, too
All right, should we should we move on to our next topic?
We've done this is three topics we've done now, but yeah Dan doesn't listen to the show. So what does he care?
Topics don't care topics don't care about your feelings
Drones US the US blacklist new foreign made drones from entering marketplace
No, no, the the oh, yeah the market like basically you can't sell it on yeah new non US made drones
Cannot be sold. I guess not saying the marketplace makes it sound like Facebook. Yeah, yeah
No, it's just the marketplace in general The FCC has announced a ban on new foreign made drones and critical drone components citing national security concerns
Which as an aside kind of makes sense a move that will heavily impact DJI
Rather specifically which dominates the US drone market the ruling blocks companies like DJI and out-held robotics from
Introducing new drones in the US through existing model though though existing models are not affected for now
The FCC says foreign made drones could enable surveillance
Data exfiltration and disruptive attacks arguing that all future UAS which is just
Basically UAV but its system instead of vehicle
all future UAS hardware should be manufactured domestically to reduce risk and
These are not entirely ridiculous Honestly, no drone pilots and commercial operators have pushed back hard warning
There are no real alternatives to DJI's affordability and capability industry groups say many businesses could shut down without access to DJI
Hardware while DJI itself calls the ban anti competitive and claims multiple reviews have found its products secure
It's I mean, it's definitely anti competitive and there are downsides major downsides for that
There's that whole thing where like China encouraged Tesla to come into their market to push their own
Players to be more competitive Basically like invite the big dog in to get your people to act up
Clearly DJI is already in the States and people are saying there is no alternative. So that's not exactly working stateside
So I had a chat with my brother-in-law. I've talked about him before
This is the company that he works for it's pretty cool. By the way, they're
Basically they're they're building a platform that is designed for
individual drone operators To be incentivized you can actually kind of see it in this visual here be incentivized to capture high-resolution
drone imagery for global mapping
and not just like mapping like like like Google Maps, but more like
the kinds of high-detail models of our cities and the world that could be used for things like
Mineral exploration or for
One of the ones that he brought up for me was like firefighting
There's all kinds of cool stuff that you cannot do without a a high high-resolution
Map and there currently is not a practical way to capture that that isn't just
flying drones with high-resolution cameras over every square inch of the globe and then
Ingesting all of that data and making it accessible. So that's the that's the challenge that they're working on solving and
Yeah, yeah, Eleanor Eleanor says
Spexy is crowdsourced GIS, which is honestly so cool except like except like even better
It's really really cool tech Anyway, the point is that you know when this announcement hit
He and I were actually on a beach in Cabo and his phone
just like Started exploding because
Because like their entire industry is sitting there going. What do we do now? Yeah, okay
So we're supposed to use a domestic drone. What fucking domestic drone? What are you even talking about? Yeah, okay? Well, guess what?
Just like it always is There's a there's a political there's a political angle to it. Oh, is there like some company?
Is there some company? Oh
My god, I'm trying to use your website. This is terrible
Second new board blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah advisory board blah blah etc drone company
Yeah, of course there of course it is super cool. That makes sense. Yeah
Yeah, I definitely if we completely ignore that part because obviously
The what is it that doesn't trump? It doesn't seem obvious to everyone
It doesn't seem obvious to everyone fair enough, but even if we ignore the clear corruption issues
I Understand why they would want to do something like this. Yeah future warfare
Like even if you look just within the confines of the Ukraine war. Oh, yeah future warfare has completely changed
And it is extremely drone based at this point
And if you don't have domestic drones and if you're like, yeah our entire domestic drone industries
Actually just DJI I can totally understand why that would be very concerning. I think there are other ways to solve this
I think there are ways to incentivize
You know like stateside drone companies race I don't drone manufacturing without just banning competition
But I can understand why from a defense perspective
You would want to make sure that you're protecting not necessarily banning competition, but protecting your own drone manufacturing
I think there's a variety of ways to do that that aren't banning it The only thing I'm saying is that I understand why they're doing this not that I necessarily agree with it
Yeah, I think the you know subsidizing promoting doing something to push local drone manufacturing and research would be a good idea instead of
You know banning competition and then setting up your your family member for an elliope
I
Nepotism is pretty cool, though. I guess Anyways next topic
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like I might have had a no
I guess I don't really have any more anything more to say about that. We'll
We'll see how it goes. It's gonna drive up the price of existing models for sure
it's going to it's
going to cause a delay in
The in the quality of available drones in the US compared to other markets where DJI will continue to export and continue to innovate
Yeah, the mass manufacturing will be the problem people have been able to
Make drones at home for a long time. I do kind of wonder what this will look like for parts
Did it mention parts in here?
Okay, yeah, so critical parts it doesn't just include parts so the FPV community is like losing their minds to
It's not full drones. It is drones and parts is what you're saying and critical parts. Yeah
Yeah, so it's like where you're gonna get like a your US made processors and motors and everything
Yeah, that's That's like yours out. I think
At the least yeah, we'll see how it goes if kind of ever
That'll be interesting. We'll see how it goes man
Actually, this is a this is a good question Is this gonna be is this gonna be as good as the is the is the Trump backed drone company gonna be as good as the
Trump phone did that thing ever get did that thing ever get delivered?
Let's have a look here. Oh, yeah, it exists today. What is this?
Okay, yeah, first ever smartphone is delayed and and the government shutdown is to blame. Oh, okay. Oh nice
That's good. That makes sense. Why does that make sense?
What would that have had to do with anything?
Same coverage as the as the whatever. Okay. Yeah, so they're still pretending that this is gonna be a thing
Is there still anything on here about it being like made in the USA or is that is that gone now?
Because at the beginning it really was
Built for people who expect more. Okay, it seems like they have removed
They've removed anything about it being American made
So it looks like there are some Designed with American values in mind
So they have a refurbished s20. Oh, they have additional phones now. They have refurbished
phones and then
Okay, proudly American. What does that mean?
designed with American values in mind with American hands behind every device
It is amazing how much you can pretend to say something and
Not say it. It's brought to life here in the USA
That doesn't American proud design
None of that says or means made in the USA none of it
That oh man I don't even know why they care. I don't even know why they bother to pretend
Because it's not like anyone's enforcing anything anyway, so they might as well just say it's made in America at this point
Someone linked to this list. Yeah, the blue list. It's a cleared list of drones, but it says specifically
It's a cleared list for drones approved for DOW, which I think is Department of War because they renamed Department of Defense
sure and there's like there are
Skydio drones and and Other various things on here, but I don't I don't know if this is consumer cleared or if this is just
Department of War cleared. I'm unsure. It's great kitty kitty says don't try to understand the grift. It's just a grift
It's like closely inspecting a brown paper bag when you doorstep. You already know what it is
Yeah, that's fair
Comical sort of
Well, we could do a tech house update. Yeah, I was there today
We took possession Three days ago, and I didn't get a chance to go there until we did our shoot today
So if you haven't been keeping up there was a video on the LTT channel
Where we went shopping for a tech house and the idea behind it was pretty straightforward
We've done a lot of kind of upgrades in in my house
to the point where my house is fine and We don't we don't oh, yeah, are your auto lights fine?
No, well, no, but that will that will fix actually
Invelli's shipment of new lights with millimeter wave detection
That are gonna be way better and I'm really excited about have lots of fixes compared to the ones
I'm using now is like in customs clearance right now like I am
Stoked to finally have the lighting experience that I promised my family years ago. Anyway, that's besides the point right now
The point is we don't need to make another video of Linus upgrades is living room TV every other month
my my living room TV is fine and
So this tech house is gonna give us kind of like a it's almost like a test bench
it's it's like at the computer test bench of like
not just smart home stuff because I think there's there's kind of a limited audience for people who are interested in home automation, but also just
practical deployments of technology whether it's computers or TVs or
Audio equipment or I mean Okay, do you remember that video that you did years ago on using a projector for like tabletop gaming? Oh
Whoa, okay. Yeah Okay, bit of a
Bit of a deep what would what what I wasn't trying to cut anybody no no deep cut means like an old reference
I don't think it does. I Think it does. No, I think it means like like a wound. What am I trying to think of that? I don't know
Bit of a deep cut refers to a significant wound that might need medical attention
No, like the whole chat is saying that I'm right Luke does know this one really. Yeah, it's just slang. Oh
Okay, I thought I thought it's like I thought it was like a like a like a stab don't twist like that's a bit of a deep
That's a bit of a deep cut. I'm sure it is also used for that
Okay, a bit of a deep cut slang meaning
On the record a deep cut is a song judged to be less commercial or radio friendly I
Like genuinely the entire chat if there's got to be something to it
Urban dictionary a song by an artist boomer dictionary at this point only true fans of set artist will enjoy or no
Okay Song obscure work. Okay. Well, that's clearly closer to your definition than it is to mine. So sure. Yeah. Yeah
Let's go on boomer dictionary
Anyway, it's just it's just I don't think that video like did well and it's super old. Oh, yeah
So it's just a surprise. I don't even know what I would type in to search for it. Yeah, don't worry about it
The point is that like we we want to we want to
Use this place as an opportunity to talk about building a sick tabletop gaming space sweet or building a super cool
Really cool stuff you can do these days. Oh, I know projector game thing has been like very leveled up
There's there's some really awesome stuff you can do. Yeah, and so so pretty much what we were looking for was a place with really good bones and
with
Reasonable ease of use for upgrading them
Because okay. Yeah, it might have been more realistic for us to find a place that didn't have a crawl space for instance
Right that we were gonna be ripping off drywall for absolutely every single wire
We were gonna run stuff like that, right, but that's not
We're not a home renovation channel. This is our first kind of kick at this can we wanted something that we could
We wanted something to cut our teeth on so we got a place that not only has a really nice crawl space under the entire main floor
Which is Sick, that'll be sick for doing this type of stuff. Yeah, it's it's not tall like in order for me to get down there
I have to be
Completely almost like like butt down to the ground and that's like here. So you're pretty much crawling
It's a literal crawl space good name But it also has a it has a little like I think it's called a dormer like it has one room
That's on the second story in in the front and we're gonna we're thinking we're gonna convert that to like a media room
And then it has a couple little Crawl pathways along the side of that as well
So it's got really really good access to getting fishing wiring down or up into wall spaces
and it's actually This video is gonna be really fun because in the first one
We just kind of do a high-level overview because we're just touring it because we were shopping
Whereas in this one we really start digging into some of the really weird stuff the previous owner did
Like he was obviously In a different way a pretty techie guy. Okay, one of the bedrooms has I kid you not three RJ 11 jacks in it
There's all like like like a phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's also an RJ 11 jack next to the toilet
No, okay, that that that was a thing very odd, but yeah, that was I've always thought that's weird
Yeah, to have a like what happened to my you just unplugged my head. Oh, sorry
Man, no to have a like a a phone in your bathroom. Oh
Man What happened?
It's fine don't worry, but oh that we're good the Wanshoe quality is not going to get
Yeah, yeah toilet phones were were a thing for sure I I always thought it's kind of
Pretty unsanitary personally sure yeah putting it on your face. I get it there. I can see both ways. Yeah, sure, but it's
The three in the bedroom That's interesting. Yeah, I couldn't quite wrap my brain around it. He had a CD player in his kitchen, which I thought was pretty cool. Nice
Man, there's oh my god, I swear
Wasn't there like I think I saw in the video you could like play music
Throughout the house on like the on that CD player. I think so. Yeah one out of every three like like duplex receptacles
Like power outlets had one of those six gang ones like bolted on to it
He was a major fan of power strips and extension cords like
He had that he had an interesting System where you could only run either the dryer the clothes dryer or you could run this extension cord
240 volt outlet that he had just like coiled up using in-wall wire and just like
Into an octagonal box like thing that he had in his garage
So you had like a 240 volt extension cord in his garage that you could not run at the same time as the dryer
And he had a kind of sick a sign above the dryer in German not to run it at the same time as the one in the garage
Kind of sick. Yeah, like it's honestly like
People are saying it sounds bad. I don't know enough about that being like dangerous or not, but it sounds pretty great. Oh, it's it's
that Let me put it this way. I
Think this guy's idea of safety first was the four fire extinguishers that he had in his garage
I
Rather than just I don't know not starting a fire in the first one
Like he would just he'd be like, yeah, I'd love to have a cable outside the house
So I'm gonna just take a big long drill bit
And go through the wall like that was his way and
He's got like a shed in the back. He he had a bit of an infestation
So we found that in the inspection report which Colton did not share with me until after we
I mean a lot of the place around here bought it and took possession. So anyway, this ain't Alberta
Yeah, infestation major infestation. His solution was these little
Noisemakers that you plug into. Yeah, they were like everywhere
Yeah, I didn't didn't help obviously. Yeah, so I'm kind of thinking tech house cat
We just get a pet nice and keep it there and then that'll take care of it
Colton doesn't want to do that though. He wants to like hire an exterminator. I think that's so dumb. I
Think a cat would take care of any rodent issues around this house like quick styles
Dude, I don't I don't see. Oh, I shouldn't say that I have seen mice in my house
They were dead or in a fish tank thing. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those were pets. It was complicated
They're temporary pets and eventually they were dead. So
The system clearly works. It did it worked exceptionally well in that case
Yeah, Linus just wants another cat. I mean
Yeah, another cat's not a bad thing
I'm not trying to think what what else is there to say about it Oh, there were some other things that were found in the inspection report that I found out about today
Yeah, are you saying those? Yeah, sure. Apparently there's particularly bad. Yeah, you know about the foundation issue. Yeah
Foundation and drainage issues. So oh, I didn't know about the drainage one, too
Yeah, usually they as far as my understanding goes they often go hand-in-hand, but yikes
So I guess we're gonna have to I guess we're gonna have to figure that out
But dude, I'm I'm excited. This does sound like
Bought a house in Vancouver
Vibes Not Vancouver, but I'm saying that for the greater Vancouver area public audience, but
Sort of how it goes a lot of them have infestations a lot of them are old and have foundational problems
A lot of them have previous owners who just kind of you'll load stuff. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that
Yeah, unlike Australia where it's like apparently illegal to make improvements to your own house if you're not certified
You know about this. You don't know about this thing. That sounds annoying. Well, yeah
But the flip side is that I bet they probably don't have stuff like we saw in this house
I mean their housing market is just wrecked. So I
Mean, so I really yeah, so yeah, there's that. Yeah
Maybe I misunderstood that anyone anyone from upside down land can can verify for me
Anybody anybody beller? Dylan K. A says I have an illegal back deck in Oz didn't get council approval
Apparently electrical is a no-no. Yeah says old Tom. There you go
100% true in some ways. Okay. Yeah, there you go
Me Gors says would you trust a criminal to fix their own home?
They're not all criminals. They're just descended from them
Total different totally different ballgame. Okay, I think that's a good one
Totally different ballgame. Okay, I don't believe in the sins of the father. Okay, that's not how this works
So dude this place is like downright scary some of it
Like I found this bought this like rotten box in the backyard that just had an outlet in it
That there's no way that it was like watertight and that outlet had one of those freaking six
This in the yard like why you didn't even have more than one thing plugged into it
So why he just he just put them everywhere just put them on everything. Oh god
No, please stop. He just really liked his power. I think James said that he had two built-in Vax
One that ran to like a couple spots and then one that was running somewhere else
I didn't actually verify that I didn't I didn't double-check that because it didn't make any sense to me
But maybe he's right Maybe he's right. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. It's gonna be cool though
It's gonna be I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I
As I was walking around half of me was really excited about all the cool projects that we can do and then the other half of me was like
Oh God have we bit off more than we can chew like it's obvious that there's a couple little things that they did
Just to prep the place for sale. They they like they just
Obviously redid the the main bedroom on sweet bathroom like like all modern it has a sliding barn door
Like they're so that they don't lock any sound they don't lock any smell
It feels like you're declaring that this door will always be open and then it has the case like just have it be a pocket door
And then we can ignore it or just have it not be a door I guess. Yeah, that's an option too. Yeah, you could just be like all those hotel rooms that just
Don't have a bathroom door because apparently, you know, every couple in the world wants to watch each other shit
Yeah, which I don't I don't fully understand
Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna yuck your yum or whatever, but like I
Just don't need it Yum
So
Yeah, what was I gonna say about it? Yeah, right, so they redid the main on sweet bathroom and it looks
So out of place like just completely out of place
They did like a like a like a granite or marble countertop and then like this new shower of that
David Pankratz was there today. He was like, oh, that's a Costco shower
Okay, yeah, and then and so they did that they put in a bunch of new like vinyl plank flooring in some places
And then they just left the like pink carpet or whatever it is. It was 90s. It was the 90s
It was a different time. They just left that other places pink carpet was a thing and then they but then apparently the
inspection report found that It was either the on sweet or it was the the main floor bathtub is just draining directly into the crawl space. Oh
Yeah So like, huh? They could be it's completely cosmetic. I found a can of paint in one of the closets that just says all walls
So like classic throw a coat of paint on it redo the main on sweet bathroom
Put some vinyl plank down Slap some lipstick on this pig and get this thing sold and
We bought it nice. Yeah, to be fair. I think that was going to be the situation
For all of the places that you're looking at at that price point
Yeah, more or less. I mean, no, we did find stuff that was not that much more that was
Pretty moving ready, but we also didn't want something moving ready. You wanted to work on stuff
Yeah, we didn't want to go into a place that was perfectly nice. How much was it? Is that disclose throw away a bunch of stuff?
I mean, I think people could find it easily enough
So it was actually I don't know what the final I don't know what we paid
Okay, because I know that we did negotiate because of like, oh, yeah, your foundation has problems and like that can be a pretty big one
and your and your Like drainage has issues and there's all this stuff. That's not up to code like I think there was a bit of negotiation
But I think the list price was 1.3
Okay, yeah, so there's definitely ones there. There's very there's very move-in ready stuff
Yeah, but this I thought it was like pretty lower than that, but this place has a yard
Which is not a given around here No, and it's a it's like a reasonable sized house
You think with the amount of space Canada has that we would make that a thing but nope
Well, you know, here's the thing right like are you gonna show the map of BC?
Yeah, I'm gonna show I'm gonna show the map of BC to educate the masses. Yeah, so Canada is really big
But also the Mercator projector
Projection makes it seem a lot bigger than it is if you actually look at like like on a round globe
Okay, it's still really big. It's still really big, but it's also like it's not
That big like remember remember the news cycle recently those like hey
Does anyone actually know that Africa is like enormous enormous and that Europe is like not
Cuz like, you know like Africa is like not that much smaller than like frickin Asia like it's frickin huge
Like did anyone did anyone realize, you know any of this?
Do anyone know that Brazil is like frickin the size of the US pretty much?
Not not quite, but like on a Mercator projection map. They these things do not look right
Anyway, the point is that while Canada is very large indeed
I'm just gonna go ahead and put the old
Mountain rain terrain on here that the top of the top of my
ography so yeah, here's a big part of our problem
There is like One that like this little thing tiny flat part of British Columbia
And and it's just all it's all just
There's like there's like a little there's a little valley here
There's another one here The this one's kind of part of the same one and then up here is just here be ice dragons
Basically for all of this And then yeah, we have some we have some planes that also are full of ice dragons for half of the year and
then you can kind of you go south enough that it's livable again for a bit and
Then here be mountains again And more ice dragons
Yeah, whereas like in America they do they do have mountains
You know they have a lot of the same problem as us sort of through this area here
But then they also have just like oh wow look at all this like perfectly flat not infested with ice dragons
Land that is really useful a lot of wind dragons
That's true. Definitely wind and and rain dragons. Yeah, they got their own kinds of dragons down there. Yeah
Oh, yeah, I guess we could do that so yeah excited for tech house it's gonna be great I
Am not gonna think about it too much right now because I got CES next week, but I'm gonna get back and it's gonna be fun
How'd you get out of CES anyway? I?
Was kind of looking at the year and going like okay There's two like CES like shows that are in heavy-contention basically you just want to go to Computex. Yeah
I'm gonna bring Nick and Lucas
And we're gonna try to go see
I'm trying to talk to some brands There's a couple brands that are that are interested in doing this right now, but we want to go see
You know how we've been doing this like kind of tour of testing and validation and performance testing Labs
We want to go do that, but also in Taiwan. We want to see how they design and test power supplies like at
Their actual location. Oh, that's cool do different things like that
It's Proven a little difficult to get through to companies, but I think it's because we're not super close to Computex
And everybody's focused on CES right now So hopefully after CES the the conversations will kind of prop up, but I was looking at like
You know with no sponsor anything for the Labs side bringing down either myself or
Myself and two others which were the two potential plans and then paying for a flight accommodations
All that kind of stuff for a week. What am I going to get out of this event?
Hmm, and it was like nah, I don't know right can maybe swing one event for the year
Right, and if I can tie on these like potential brand tours of like seeing how these things are performance tested
He's seeing how these things are designed and whatnot to the Computex one that sounds a lot more valuable
So I'm going that angle also you just would rather go to Taiwan
We don't need to discuss that part sure we don't need to discuss it
Because you know and I know that all of that
Whatever that I'm hardly listening to not like Vegas, and I might really love Taiwan
But I think that's irrelevant really really I think my other I might have I might have
Constructed a scenario where one makes a lot more sense than the other one. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was what
It might also be very reasonable. Yeah, it might be a plausible even structure plausible you might say
It might be almost entirely designed to get Nick and Lucas there because I already had mechanisms to get myself
That's it your justification can be whatever it wants to be. I'm not gonna
crash out
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We mean that we are remaining true to the spec So there are technically products that exist within the USB ecosystem that are not to spec
Extensions for instance exist, but from chatting with Tynan about it
They are not spec like there there is no accounting for the connector losses and
And the and the losses from the length that we're adding to these cables when you plug a cable into an extension
You just got to like pray to Thor that it's gonna work because that's about your best shot of ensuring that it's going to and that
Doesn't mean that it won't work. It just means that it might not so we are sticking with whatever the
We're sticking with whatever the maximum
official specced power and data transfer is
Within the USB specification for any given length
So what you might notice is that our longer cables
Even using the same connectors at the ends might be rated for a slower data speed
That doesn't mean that you might not get a better data speed if you happen to have, you know
really tolerant Devices at either end, but we aren't gonna guarantee it. We're all about true spec on these
I really like the name personally. Yeah
Yeah, I think it makes a tiny. I think it makes a ton of sense
Frosty keogre says the markings nice. I had to sharp your label onto my only 10 gigabit per second capable cable
Yeah, right like it's so annoying So that was a big part of where this came from is like in my life
I have a thousand USB cables, but never the one I actually need in a given moment and
Whether it's that they're not rated for a particularly high speed and I'm doing a big transfer and I'm like
Oh god, is it faster to go get another cable and restart it or is it faster to just wait for this to finish?
I don't know or whether you get one of those ones that only has the conductors for charging in it and you like
You to plug it into your phone and you're like, is it is it my phone being weird?
Like it's not in data transfer mode or is or okay. I'll go get another device or is it this cable? I don't I
Just want to eliminate uncertainty from my life. So with the LTT cables I
Know that whatever I'm holding a type C to type C at this length is whatever the best cable could be for that
And I'm G to G. So this is this is a longer one. So this is a 20 gigabit per second
240 watt is trying to show how long I see. Oh, yeah, sure. Why not? I mean, it's gonna go
So I think this is what a six footer or something like that Looks like it. Oh, it might be a little longer. Yeah
Anyway, this is the one that I carry around for for charging my laptop and it is worth noting that we are not doing
Thunderbolt cables at this time. So these are all at most
USB for VGA
VGA you don't mean like actual VGA. You mean like display cables, right? Yeah VGA. Yeah, so we're
So we are not doing display cables at this time
See how well these go I guess we're gonna see how we got a we're this is something
I think people often a new segment dude. Uh, speaking of people often forgetting. This is 16 skews
We are a pretty small company and this is 16 skews. No, this is 16 lengths for each connector type double it
This is 32 skews Oh, that doesn't that isn't what it sounds like
Oh, I understand for each connection. Yeah, all right. Wow. So so what a lot of people forget
Is that in the grand scheme of things? We are actually still a pretty small company. So we need to we're dipping our toes in
We're gonna start with USB and then we're gonna make sure that people actually
You know care and are willing to pay for, you know, a silicone jacketed
Um, I'm gonna be properly shielded high quality cable
And if people care about that then we would love to explore
Doing htmi DisplayPort. Um, I was carrying one of these that I stole from tine in
Um On a bunch of my trips and I'd show it off all the time and people
Who liked it? It's very nice. Yeah, but just because people like it and just because it's very nice
Doesn't mean it will be necessarily sell commercially successful So we've really just got to wait and we got to see how it goes and that's how you
That's how you kind of build. That's how you build a business. That's how you build momentum. What?
Actually got a merch message asking about display cables. Maybe we want to have a look at that one, too
Which ones? Uh, asking about display cables. That's what we were talking about this whole time Dan
No, I mean this has more Specifics if you know what I mean
Oh, uh, sure. Yeah, why don't we do that merch message then if you guys are oh, right
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Curate it for me and luke to talk about so we'll show you how that works
Yeah, so I did get one asking about the
Display cables. Hey there you talked about your cables a few shows back and I was wondering
What might or would come earlier a DisplayPort cable with a chip or an HDMI cable with the fees and development costs and all of that
That is such a good question. That is a good question What I suspect is that we'd probably get into HDMI with the fees before we would get into a
usb cable with a chip
Although this could come down to what our manufacturing partner has more ready to go because even though this exact
Design does not exist elsewhere that we are aware of because no one would be crazy enough to build a cable like this
You're still working with uh, we are still obviously working with a factory that makes cables and they have certain capabilities
And so if they already have a lot of expertise on the Thunderbolt chip side of things then yeah doing a Thunderbolt chipped
Cable might make a ton of sense Or if they have a ton of experience on the HDMI side that might make more sense
Tynan's actually been working with them a little bit. Oh, actually kato s is right
Um, we they do have a chip, but it's it's not an active cable. So that's the clarification here
Yeah, pd does require it to communicate with devices. What his capabilities are
I do appreciate that kato s was like these are true spec. They say they have a thing that means they have a chip
So When I say chip, I mean a Thunderbolt chip, uh, which we do not have at this time. Why is wrong again headline? Yeah, I know, right
So it's going to depend on what their capabilities are and it's also going to depend on what the demand is, right?
Like if every other message coming in is like, hey love true spec cables. I love the ones that I have
I want HDMI cables. Then yeah, maybe maybe that'll be something that we'll explore
I would say that The reason that we tackled usb a to c and c to c first is because that's where we see
The most value for the true spec product philosophy
In Thunderbolt cables. I haven't had the same
Problems, um, I haven't had quite the same experience with cables not being what I expect them to be because generally speaking Thunderbolt cables are
quite max spec cables
And same goes for HDMI there's
It's kind of confusing labeling because you know
4k generally means HDMI 1.4 if I recall correctly
And then like 4k 60 I think means 2.0 4k 120 and then like or no 8k means 2.0
I look the point is they have labeling. It's just like kind of stupid
um And a lot of the time you don't even necessarily need the better one
Because if it's a short enough run, it doesn't really matter a lot of the time the the older cables will still like totally work
Other times they won't though and you'll get like weird cutouts and stuff like that
Like they are digital signals. So um, I would never
snake oil market these and say like You connect this between your mp3 player
Or you're you connect between your DAC and your computer and you'll you'll hear the digital bits better or whatever that is
Bullshit. No, but I've heard like
I think this was in Floatplane chat or something somebody mentioned that like connecting their laptop and their deck when doing
DJing sets with like a good quality cable that they can feel like they can rely on more sounds great
It's not that it's going to be a better quality connection No, but knowing that it will work
Is and it's going to be thrown in bags and taken back out a bunch of different times
And they they feel like they can if they can trust it more that has a value to them
Like that's cool That's a a like fairly mission critical connection that I might
Understand someone investing more and to be clear. They're not magic, right? Like this is still
A two-spec usbc connector at the end
Like if it if it plugged into something and you and you don't put any strain relief and you let like
Four feet of this cable dangle off of it. Like it's yeah, it's gonna eventually bend
It'll it'll it'll wear out. Don't be an idiot with your stuff
right But we've built it to be as robust as we can possibly
Make it as as mission as bulletproof as we can practically they're still gonna be something that'll fail and yada yada yada
It's like any product
I know they feel nice And I have been told that there are cases where a digital cable can be used for analog purposes
And there was someone who is super into ham radio at that event that we were at
Do you remember the the LAN at the LAN at the gaming house? Yeah. Yeah
So there was someone there that was really into ham radio and basically when oh, yeah
I remember this. Yeah, we use usb cables because of convenience or something
But we're actually transferring analog
Um, yeah, I didn't understand that at all But they seemed like they knew what they were talking about and so I basically was like, okay
And he was like, yeah, I will be the first one in line to buy a bunch of these because those sound awesome
Yeah, uh, as soon as I was talking about the uh, the high speed lines being individually shielded in there
So that's why she's that's why she's such a thick boy
Right Like that's that's a thick cable. We're not selling this as some kind of like convenient
Lightweight, you know, it no it is I I've used it for like charging my phone in my pocket with a battery bank
That is a questionable use case for this cable to be honest. Yeah, she's heavy, you know at the time
It was just what I had but like it's not the best for that you kind of want
Somewhat of a junky cable to do that job to be honest because you want something
Little small and light and twistable and then you'll throw it away in a month or a couple months because it will wear out
And be a piece of junk or you'll just lose it because you don't really care if that's usually my problem
Yeah, yeah, that's another one Uh, okay, so
Mystery man 321 in Floatplane chat says my dad does ham radio
And he transmits a lot of his ham frequencies over VoIP. He would have loved these
Okay So, yeah, I don't know how that oh, okay. No that I mean that makes sense
I don't I don't know how you send an analog single signal over usb. That sounds really cool
Well, I mean usb is just it's just you know conductors touching other conductors. I mean technically could send anything over it
I understand it's possible clapped k24cord says
Talking about probably using them as antenna of some description with better shielding
It is a problem with cheaper ham antennas
using for antennas This is an entire realm of things that I know practically nothing about
Yeah Okay
Interesting Uh, yeah, me neither
me neither Uh Elinor is asking about
like old 40 pin iPod cables
Oh, yeah, that is not in the plan. Yeah. No, not in the plan
um Yeah, golden sound says you say you're not marketing it for sound quality purposes
But as someone deep in the audio hobby, I'd gladly play for a cable that just works
Uh, I spend a lot of time testing measuring audio gear and crappy usb cables are a plague
Is that the golden sound? Oh, I don't know am I?
Uh, oh, did I just did I just do that thing where I get into an elevator with a celebrity and I don't realize who they are
I mean, I think so Oh crap. Whoops
Yeah, I'm assuming this is the the golden sound
Whoopsie doodles. That's cool. I mean that's super cool. That's that's good to hear
Is this a dcc squad represent
Yeah, that's that's the main thing I've heard from audio people so far like that the the dj thing I referenced, right?
Yeah Is like it's not
It's not going to make it sound better But if these are high importance cables, you might want a good one
I don't know. I don't personally often have usb cables fail. Um, oh, I don't
I have it happen pretty regularly, but okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not I mean, I'm not saying that they don't
It's also hard to tell when they do sometimes. That's a good point. Oh, I mean the whole it's oh man
It's been interesting. Wendell has a video on Floatplane. I don't think it's out on youtube yet on what is going on with
dr5 and he doesn't mean in terms of pricing
He means in terms of like overheating and like having weird problems and stuff like that very interesting very cool video
Is this uh, is this what's going on with like the Threadripper pro platform and stuff?
I think it's related to that. Yeah, I don't see it on youtube yet. Okay. Yeah, kelp from falcon northwest was
Talking to me about that as well. So then it's got to be that because he mentions kelp in the video
It's a fantastic video watch it on Floatplane. If you had if you're not a float, basically
Eventually to solve one of the problems that kelp was running into on one of his workstations
He had to he had to reinvent the dominator airflow. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is this is that for sure
So like this this stupid thing is uh,
Hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna find it. It's super cool now because I think it's level one tech
Maybe it was this stupid thing is coming back. Yeah
Yeah, buddy, but it's 3d printed now Well, okay. Yeah, sure, which is awesome
But like it's cringe that we need this stuff But there were several generations of dominator airflow
I don't want to spoil the video because it's Windows work But it's a fantastic video and it explains why we might need this stuff coming back
And like how this could even potentially happen and like the design philosophy and the steps of it and all
amazing video, but um It is it's interesting because it reminded me of Linus torvolds
In the video with you Talking about how like oh, you know, maybe a lot of problems that Windows is blamed for is actually just people having bad RAM
Um, so I don't know. Yeah, maybe there's something going on with usb cables
I'm not going to step in and and pretend that I know a lot about
um usb cables my primary use case for them is charging my phone so
I don't know I see a lot of people in chat just talking about everything from dj-ing to uh, like capturing, um to
What else the people what else are people talking about? Yeah, this is so this isn't them in your truck
Oh, that was a truck one is a big one That was a big part of the reason that we went with silicone
Because I don't know about you guys, but my Android auto cables
This is exactly I talked to my brother about this and my brother does a lot of mods to his truck
And I was talking about like yeah, I don't think you're going to be like replacing all your cables with this
But if you were like replacing your infotainment system and you needed a cable that was going to be in the back
And you just never wanted to have to go replace it
This might be a use case especially if it's going to get any sunlight
And again, it's not magic. We didn't make magic here
You know, if you if you freaking, you know, close your door on it or something and it gets kinged like it, you know
It can break But we did want it to be very resistant to uh to UV
Yeah, and yeah, someone responded
It's not often a cable fails when deejaying, but you need a solid cable because well if it fails the show is temporarily over in your f
Not worth risking it over a five dollar cable. Um, well, hey good news. This won't be a five dollar cable
I don't know if we have uh, I don't know if we have pricing
It won't be that yet, but it won't be five dollars. I can five pound. I guess I technically said I can guarantee it
True spec XLR when Um, see XLR is one of those spaces where again, and maybe this is ignorance on my part
But I just didn't really feel like we were needed as much as we were in
I suspect there are probably more available
Higher quality cables in that space already than the usb space. I mean, I would guess I have no idea
I mean, maybe but I've also think there's been like a heavy
heavy sort of commoditization commodification of
Even like professional cables over the last little while like people are also saying they build their own XLR
Which I do believe is a thing. Oh, I think Dan built a bunch of the XLR cables around our studio. It's even there
Oh, he's not even there Okay, yeah, so I'm sure that if we ever did do a true spec XLR cable
Dan would be happy to tell us what we need to do to do it, right?
Mogami gold dual twisted pair. There you go. That's apparently the one he likes
But that's That's uh, that's a completely separate conversation for the future. Yeah jam mesh says very hard to find quality usb cables on amazon these days
Yeah, the enshrification of amazon has become like kind of a problem
because other places to buy things have been just decimated by amazon's dominance and
amazon hiking up their seller fees storage fees
fulfillment fees and Advertising fees, which you have to pay if you want any exposure for your product whatsoever
Has basically created an environment where the only products that can survive on amazon that have enough margin on amazon are
Super super high margin products, which is just another way of saying super low cost and high price
B
Sure, we could do more topics You want to pick a topic?
You wanted you wanted a new topic you pick it. Oh, should we do sponsors? I feel like oh wait. No
That was I for sometimes I forget that what we're talking about is promoting LTT Store and it's not like a topic
Was that an LTT Store? It was. Yeah, it was and uh merch messages went on for so long
We just ended up talking about cables Yeah, sorry. Oh, wait. No, we're still supposed to do another merch message, Dan
I think we'll probably do another topic now. Oh, sure. Okay. Sure. You want to pick one? Sure
What's apple got for us? Oh, this is cool. Luke. I thought you would like this. You've been thinking of switching over to iphone
What you have Uh, I mean, that's technically true. I guess. Yeah, I have considered it
I don't think it's gonna happen, but I have considered it. I need to prove my humanity pretty quick
Hey, did you see those weird captures that people were posting for our websites? Yes
Okay, I guess that's all the information we're getting about that. I don't know. I'm assuming that's the Shopify thing
Oh, okay, interesting. It wasn't our websites. It was LTT Store got it
So this is cool reminders on iOS in in iOS 26.2 is getting a new feature for urgent reminders
This was posted on reddit by alex aguero lion
You can mark a reminder as urgent and get an alarm when it's due
You can snooze it if you can't get it to it right away. This feels like such a low lift. Why isn't this on Android?
Everything should have this. In fact, this should be the default behavior. Why would I say?
Why would I set a reminder that I don't care about that? I don't care
Like it drives me insane Why would I set it at a specific time if it doesn't need to be done at that time?
And if it needs to be done at that time, why would it go away before I have acknowledged that I have seen it?
And you can literally put labels on alarms in your clock app
So you can name alarm events in your clock app, but it doesn't connect with your calendar
Why would that not be a thing? Because then if I if I name an event in my clock app
Then it's not on my calendar So I don't see it coming, but I do get the alarm for it
And then you're just making me do it in two different spots, which is silly
Anyway, shout out apple for doing it. That's actually really cool. Yeah, I thought this was like gonna be a
A meme topic. We're making fun of it, but no, I never looked into it
Never looked into it Bean man says isn't that already how it works on Android? No. No
Cool. All right. Uh next topic. I want to talk about this one because I have thoughts actually we'll see how this goes
Apparently samsung reminders can do it, which I haven't played around with I will have to do that
I'm a pixel bro. So I have no idea. I'm on samsung right now. Actually. I'm really enjoying the fold seven
Cool 20% of videos shown to new
Oh, it's new youtube interesting to new youtube users is a islop apparently there's a study that that found this
It suggests that we try it in an incognito tab
I thought why don't we do a fun little casual experiment? Would this make us a new user a non scientific experiment?
I mean it seems to think we are a new user. Is this seriously what this is how it goes
This is on ironically how it goes. This is the first time accessing youtube experience. Yep
Try I have experienced this recently. This is how it goes try searching to get started. No, I won't
No, you uh, you will I I bet you can go on shorts. I bet you shorts will work
Yeah Okay
All right, is it a islop or not? I don't want to do all shorts. Uh, this does not seem like a islop
Um, I would technically have no way of knowing for sure
um I
Mean it doesn't have to be a i to be slob. Yeah, what?
Oh my god, who cares um shorts suck dude
Okay, what is this is this a new shorts format the square
Like is this and is this thing on the left just like subway surfers like yeah, it must be
Okay, no this is an ad
Sick dude, this is line dancing. I don't know but it's pretty good
Um This has so many filters on it that it's hard to tell the difference between this and a i
Uh, I like literally can't really tell the difference
That looks real that's clogging. Okay. Sure. It's this thing again these big ones. It's this thing. So there's just like
That's interesting. It's just like kind of oddly satisfying stuff on the left and there's a blur between it
Yeah, and they've they've all had blurs between it
So the idea is just that you
Okay
My my brain just kind of hurts right now
You know what I got to say I it doesn't seem like
I'm not seeing a ton of AI. I'm not This could be obvious not obvious AI slot
I I mean, there's definitely AI power filters filter garbage. Oh, this is sponsored. Okay, so that's an ad
This is not gonna be
AI sloppy there. Okay. All right So
So we didn't get much but we only looked at shorts. Yeah, we only looked at shorts
Okay, if I go back. Oh, hey, look at this If I go back to home now, you've looked at shorts. So now you can see it. Yeah, okay
So That's not slop. Nope. Well, it's not AI
Brian trehan is I actually don't know are his videos good. I have no idea. Okay. Cool
I opened a fake mcdonald's drive-through Slop
I mean that logo looks like AI. Okay, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay ad
Um, we didn't get any in the shorts, but as far as my understanding goes there's an incredible amount in shorts
Yeah, is that outdoor boys again?
What's outdoor boys? Let's go Oh this okay, let's go. Okay. So that's real not a I slop ad confirmed not a I slop
So is this really not getting 20% So here's a question
I mean, okay
This is this is AI I've seen these before
Uh, this just like crap hits a window
Uh, garbage got it. Okay. So that's one
That thing on the end with the boba tea thing Definitely might be but I don't think we should click on it to check. Really? I don't know. I think we should click on it to check
Um
I don't know dude
It looks like probably to me. Yeah, I think this is probably. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yep that last one. Yep. Okay
Okay, so in this one We're at 40% AI slop right here
Short shorts in in my interpretation, which I have a thing that blocks shorts now
But shorts were a lot of it especially I started getting into
Some uh, some warhammer lore stuff while I was working on things just listening to it
Yeah, and there is an incredible amount of AI voiced AI art warhammer stuff, which is
unfortunate So I was actually about to say I do wonder if
Part of the reason that new users are getting shown such a high percentage of AI slop
Is that and this is going to break your brains
That's what they click on and enjoy
Because we can see here that while there is clearly AI slop that's just going to be shown to you immediately on the platform
I'm also wondering when this study happened because if it was around christmas time
I don't know when the study captured its data Um, I know it came out sort of around christmas time. Yeah, saturday 27th of december
A lot of the like ulog videos were very clearly AI slop
Like one that we saw had it was snowing in the fireplace
Because it was snowing outside out the window and it was also snowing snowing in the fireplace
The really frustrating part about that is that the greatest ulog video
Already exists. So it's not necessary for any new ulog videos to be made. We were talking about this before the show
I think there are I think there is one critical error and one minor error with this video
This is the only ulog video that you'll ever need the actual video itself
I think there is yeah one critical error one minor error because it is available in 8k
Meaning that it is ready for any future tv you may ever own
Quality quality ulog video the the
Oh, my sick brain can't think of it right now. Good because this is the denison Linus things the stockings the stockings are very out of place
No, they're exactly where they belong. No, they're weird. They're in the perfect place
And if you criticize this ulog video, you're basically
No, they're weird. You're you're basically saying that the slot videos need to exist. Nope. Yep. No, that's basically it
No, so there's no christmas music on it. There's just crackling fire, which is pretty sick
But for people that want christmas music, that means you need another thing playing the music
Which might be okay. We worked around that We did we bluetooth pucked the receiver
And played christmas music and then had that on the tv
But every single time I've put it on someone has commented that the stockings are weird
Every single time I put it on I'll tell you what here's what we could do
And every place that I've gone that has had a ulog video playing and I'm like, hey, there's this better one
I can put it on they go. Oh, but it doesn't have the music and I'm like
And then that was worth fixing at my parents place with the bluetooth puck blah blah blah, but it's not necessarily even really possible elsewhere
These are my concerns
All right, I'll tell you what I'll tell you what okay, we get ai to generate us an eight hour christmas
And we get ai to generate us a new stocking And then you'll be happy like I understand the music licensing is like a huge problem
Which is why isn't there and personally I actually really just like the firecracking. Yeah, this is quality
I think it's great. This is this is as nature intended
But the people have spoken and they want music and this has been a problem for me
I feel like I'm gonna have to start having like a default kit that I go to christmas events with that has bluetooth pucks in it
No, it's the children that are wrong
I I couldn't be the one who's out of touch the stockings though. I get it the stockings are pretty weird
The stockings are a little weird. I think stockings are pretty weird. Yeah, well and you could technically solve that
With ai you I mean you could also solve it with not ai because you could just like basically
Sticker on a stocking on top of it. We could we could do that. Yeah, we could do we could do different stockings
We could put some music on it or or hear me out
We already spent enough money on this stupid weird project
I shouldn't say stupid. It's actually pretty sick because the pitch the pitch was kind of brilliant
At the time youtube was heavily rewarding watch time
Both in terms of ad sense and in terms of like channel promotion
So it was this was a james initiative. He was like
We should do a tech you'll love. I think it's awesome. I'm very happy that we have one
We'll do the highest resolution you'll log ever and I was like
Fantastic, let it never be said that I don't
You know provide the support that's needed for out of the box projects
Go for it. And so we made it. I think it was him and brandon that basically like camped out there for eight hours
Stoking the fire and recording this making sure that like an awesome that the camera media kept getting changed and stuff
Partway through the video a log falls out of the fire. Oh, yeah, there's there's some stuff that happens
There's that you can see some like spikes in the video timeline because people clearly
Scrubbed through it to find it. So I went to the biggest one which I think is
Is when it happens The video is so long that like trying to snipe the right timestamp is going to be tough. Oh, yeah 100%
I don't know. I don't know when it happened
And this is probably sort on you know tape somewhere for most of the year
And then makes its way to the to the edge servers. Uh, oh, you know what there's probably someone in the comments has it
Pretty much guarantee that. Yep. Oh, okay. Hold on back to your laptop. Oh, well, okay. We missed it luke
It's okay Wait
Okay, just wait. I'm waiting. Just wait. I'm waiting. Wait. You need to have patience. I have patience holiday season
There it goes. Oh, yikes Bang and it starts smoking like crazy
And then our hero Enteres left, I believe. Yeah, I think that's where he was sitting
And this is why we needed to make sure we were supervising this
Yeah, oh my god that took a while to figure out what to do
Just in case you thought this wasn't a real
An actual fireplace real you log video. Yep
Um, but one of the logs fell out. So yes, it is And if you never see a you'll log video where another log falls out, I pretty much guarantee you as ai trained on us
Yeah Um, there's all like there's a dog that wanders around every once in a while stuff
Wow, he really takes his time. They really burnt in there
I Assumed he was just off camera like reading a book or something, but
I've never actually I'm skipping forward seen this to see how long it takes to
Are you a full minute? Oh, yeah further in
Whoa Is he even like the kitchen or the bathroom or something?
I've brought up where he picks up the log, but I always scrubbed to find it
I didn't check the comments because I'm dumb. So did he just wait for it to go out?
Yeah
Wow, I am getting Quite far into it being down there. Yeah. Yes. That is an evga card on the left
Wait, are you just queuing up the skip? Has it actually skipped?
Oh, no, okay. It usually skips instantly. Yeah. Okay. All right. Wow. I'm I'm mesmerized
I want to know what's going to happen. You can actually see the skipping in the fireplace
Yeah, you can if you're good. I guess I'm just not. Whoa, dude
I need to get good. Whoa, dude. Come on
How many minutes into this are we? I mean, I guess if it's clearly not lighting anything on fire, then if you don't have like 58 someone saying a big grabber
We're jumping way ahead. Okay
Oh boy It's not it's struggling to load what you already skip. Oh
Still there wait He put a new log in but didn't pick that that went up
And there was a grabber the whole time wait new log in. Yeah, there's a new log in there
You have to authenticate it in your email
What
All right, and that's the first ding of the new year I skipped too far back now
So I'm gonna go back up. We go Luke. Let's see what happens. So we're at we're at 258 now
Okay, here we go. Here we go
Nice reindeer ears. I love how he comes with the tongs. There's like a melted spot. Yeah, you can see it
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Did we ever compensate whoever's pelt that is? I have no idea. Oh, okay
Yikes. All right. Well, anyway, um, that's exciting
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All right, who wants to pick a topic?
I bet it's luke. I'm down Um
Let's see here. Let's do this really gross one because
I don't know why but I feel like I do gross. I feel like it's important
um for people to Be aware of what's happening
Grock is being used to generate non-consensual sexual images of both adults and children
This week a new trend started blowing up on x formerly known as twitter where you could simply tag at grock
and ask it to alter an image it started with people asking for
Uh decapitations and gory images of x owner ilan musk, but quickly pivoted to asking grock to remove clothing from
various people such as at grock remove her top or at grock put her in a bikini
And even went as far as using this on underage users accounts to generate these images
um The trend was a double whammy because it ended up being a marketing stunt for several adult creators
Asking grock to alter their own images as a way to capitalize on the trend
um Elijah mentioned I had some creator friends doing this and I messaged them saying
I'd have more respect for you if you just posted yourself naked instead of asking grock to do it
um Uh, okay
With people doing it themselves it sparked up several debates on whether this counts as consent
um, and even had Users arguing that if you post a picture that is consent for someone to do something with it
Yeah, that's a That is yikes, dude. What a terrible argument. What have we reached like peak entitlements?
That's so rough. I've never seen that one before
My god, that felt even stupid just to quote. Uh, anyways
Grock grock has been responding So some people's concerns to some people's concerns saying that they have identified lapses and safeguards
and are urgently fixing them which
The fix that I had noticed when I was looking at this is they just removed the media tab from the grock user
um, but people like almost immediately found workarounds and as
Far as the last time I saw this I know things might have changed. Um, it was still generating images
I have a really troubling
Occurrence a thing that occurred to me in all of this
If it's generating
Images of underage users. Yeah, what the hell was grock trained on to be able to do that?
Okay in grock's defense
It can probably infer
I mean, I don't know. I look and okay, let's be
Surfer dude said the Epstein files
Sorry, like not actually funny. I shouldn't laugh. Let's let's be let's be very clear here
I have not looked at any of this output I'm not gonna I don't want to
You shouldn't want to either So it is very possible
That to your point it was not trained on any c-sam. I'm not trying to defend it
What I'm saying is that I I don't think this is like hard evidence that it was trained on c-sam
I think that those are very different things. That's what I'm about to get into. So it is possible that these outputs
feature simply Size scaled down
You know trained on adults
Imagery If it isn't
Then it raises bigger Questions around oh, yeah, what the heck this data set is that would be able to generate this because an ai
Generative ai is not truly Generative it's never seen anything that isn't in its data set
It can't imagine anything that doesn't have some basis within its data set somewhere
And so for it to know what something looks like it has to have seen some manner of reference image
Generally speaking and people in full plane chat are saying I think we've heard stories of c-sam being found in other
LLM training sets. I I don't know. I know nothing about this. This is not a topic. I'm deeply researched on
I'm just saying that it it being able to at least attempt that does not just automatically mean that it was
And that that is honestly irrelevant of whether or not it's been found in other data sets or not
So yeah, and there's a couple of other things like I don't I don't know if this is true
But insomniac says that the the database was apparently the twitter media database
Which to their knowledge was never purged after elon bought it and could contain
I mean whether it was purged lord only knows what after or not it could potentially contain that
Um, I'm not saying it doesn't I'm the only thing I'm saying is it doesn't guarantee that it does
That is it This is not that deep of a statement laws earth says I have a little knowledge in the medical space
And there's medical imagery of humans of all types
I Mean that does make sense. Yeah, but not what it was for no
Is it trained is grok trained on medical imagery almost certainly
I don't know. I mean, yeah, you ask an ai like what's this rash? How how the f*** would it know if it doesn't have medical imagery in it?
That makes sense
Yeah, rough, uh Yeah, the person who broke this news to me
um Is rather against
Generative image and video I don't know if they want to be named or not. So i'm chilling. Maybe if they're watching they'll ping me and let me know
Um, but the the person who broke this to me
For I know they're extremely against this. I don't think they're exactly searching for fun
Uh, but their concern which after reading a couple articles on this
I share their concern pretty strongly is the articles are too
Very valid reason scared to show the stuff
And through text Really doesn't get across how bad it is
And this was one of the problems that they had so they had some examples of things. Um
Not quite what you think. There's a lot of those had been removed
So it was like links to a thread where it very obviously happened because you could see the person's request still there
And then you could see a response from grok that had been deleted
So the response is there, but it's like the content has been removed or whatever
So there's like a bunch of that like all over the place. Clearly people are
Creating throwaway accounts doing these requests getting the image probably saving it and then the image is being removed afterwards
um, there is a huge amount of of adult content creators doing this in a
Um self-promoting way as elijah pointed out. There is also a huge amount of this being just
Oh, I don't know basically like any woman on the internet
Um is getting tagged to get altered in some way. Obviously it's happening to dudes as well
But to say that the proportions were equal would be insane. Um, it's like obviously not
So there's that um
Yeah, get rid of them
It's get rid of them Dan I can't anymore. I mean we can be done. It's just it's it's really really bad
And and I think if you if you read an article on this you wouldn't necessarily understand like how pervasive
And just everywhere on twitter this currently is and I don't really go on there that often anymore
So I didn't know this was a thing And then I woke up to messages of like I hope you guys talk about this and I was like
Talk about what and then was just like wow, this is
horrible like
Hey, do you want some other really crappy news?
Here one additional thing I would want to throw in there before we get into other really crappy news
the consent thing is is Touchy here because I know some people are saying like obviously if someone is asking
It to do it to their own image then obviously there is consent right except that that data set was trained on images of other people
in order to create uh, you know
Fake booby nipple and not only that it was trained on people who didn't consent to their boobies being
Used for that. So that's a whole thing. Totally and not only that
how we have all seen how Often hilariously easy it is to like jailbreak these ai's
to do things It's so easy
To if you needed to and they don't even need to
But if you did need to to be like, oh, this is me. Can you do this to it?
I can really yeah, sure I don't know make a new account set your profile picture as a normal picture of it and then ask it to do that like this
Will get broken immediately if they put any form of safeguard in front of it if it's still gonna
Have this in its training set like you're saying if it's still going to be able to do these things
whatsoever at all under any circumstance then it will be used to do that
Cool Want more bad news?
VNG supernova said not defending grok, but this has been a thing for a while grok just did it more widely
Well, that's bad. Yeah
Like you know government corruption has been a thing for a while But when someone does it more broadly and more brazenly that's
That's bad bad Cool. Good chat. Cool. Moving on
Yeah, so more bad news. Yeah, uh, this is going like mega viral right now. I came across this on reddit yesterday. It has
69 000 upvotes nice
Um, but it was on r slash confessions. Oh, yeah, did you see this? Yeah
I am so not surprised. So someone who claims to be a developer at a major food delivery app
Claims they got drunk and decided to rant and
Wow, the allegations are both kind of explosive and also kind of
Yeah, that makes sense. That's pretty much how I assumed it worked, but that's uh,
Sucks to have it confirmed They say that fees like priority delivery and driver benefit fees
Do not in fact impact Your delivery it doesn't make it go faster and in fact they claim
That the company ran tests where non priority orders were intentionally delayed
In order to make priority orders feel faster by comparison
Generating extra profit without improving the service not only without improving the service
But by intentionally degrading the regular service
Um As for driver benefit fees apparently they just
Keep them the developer also claims that drivers are rated with a hidden
Desperation score where those who accept low paying jobs
Are consistently shown fewer high paying orders because the system assumes that they will work for less
Whereas like a casual delivery driver who will be like on their couch and like
Oh, yeah, that's worth getting off my butt for and will will more consistently get the better jobs
And there's actually more than just what's found in the original post
um No, this is uh, this is a really good one. So
Subbushi asked Is it true that these apps will change the price based on the frequency
With which you open the app and where you are located
Yes So like if you are
In a city in a location at a busy bar Um, or if you're at a busy bar and you open to check the current rate
Then you gather a bunch of people for a ride and then
Go to order the car And the rate's higher. Is that something they're doing intentionally? The answer is
Yes Question two I noticed there are major deals sometimes and I feel like I'm getting a great price
But then suddenly there's like a charge at the end for like a weight fee or something
Um, and I feel like those charges are higher on orders that I have discounts on
Yes to both Yes to both things. That's a thing
Yeah, well, let me have a look regarding tips. We're essentially doing tip theft 2.0
We don't steal them anymore because we got sued instead. We use predictive modeling to dynamically lower the base pay
So if the algorithm predicts that you're a high tipper and you'll likely drop like 10 bucks
It will offer the driver like two dollars in base pay Okay
Why is everything so predictably cartoon villain evil luke?
Yeah, like how how hard would it be to build a system that's just sustainable for everyone?
Is it Is it that hard?
For food delivery apps. Yeah Is it just it could it not be done?
Yeah, I don't think so I don't think it can personally I can explain why
um No, I'm saying that I I think I do know actually and that I don't think it can be done. Um, my argument is that if
For what I've heard of the economies of scale of these companies. It's actually surprisingly expensive to run
I don't understand why necessarily uber apparently became profitable for the first time
in 2023. This is my point. Yeah, okay carry on and they did so
From my understanding largely through these like very abusive
mechanisms So if they're going to be profitable also known as worth anyone's time working on it at all
um Then they're either going to need to charge a bunch more
Or they'll have to screw over their drivers and if they charge a bunch more
They won't be competitive on the market and we know as consumers
That this is actually a lot less important to people than
burrito taxi three dollars cheaper
Right, so so I guess what you're saying is that there is no there is no magic burrito ferry
And so if you want someone to drive like half an hour to go get a burrito
And you don't expect to pay them a living wage, which um, I actually I I was looking up with the current vancouver
living wages for 2025
so according to living wage bc
Which is the resource that we use to determine our internal minimum wage
So we don't use like the bc minimum wage. We use the the living wage for metro vancouver
Um, so that is 27 dollars and 85 cents, which means that before any profit whatsoever
before any vehicle expense before any
tipping before
Anything you would have to pay. What does this work out to about?
Uh, $14 you would have to pay $14 for your burrito delivery
Assuming that the parent company made nothing and there was before those things why before those because they're going to drive for half an hour
So before you even account for any of that stuff just the labor alone you would have to pay $14
Then separately you will have to also be able to cover like any depreciation of the vehicle fuel expense
So that's going to drive it up even more And then if the company running the service wants to make anything then it will be even more than that
And I think we all know That no it's not 20 dollars for a burrito delivery. So somehow they have to do it
Or somehow they have to make it an amount that you're willing to pay
There's definitely more to this like kato s is saying you can you can do more than one food delivery per drive
Yeah, but also there's overhead like you got to drive you got to drive back somewhere at the end of the day
Yeah, no for sure. I I think your point is prudent. Um
It's rough food delivery apps are brutal
Kind of for everyone involved. I think you could argue even the person receiving
Yeah I mean, it's just it's like it's a bad model, right? It's almost like
We figured out grocery stores Like a really long time ago, which I very smart very efficient
Yeah, and then we were like, you know what you know what fuck grocery stores
Yeah No, I think they're pretty good still actually. No, I I genuinely generally think they're pretty good too. Yeah
Oh Undercutting the stores. I don't even know what that necessarily means. I know they've been caught cranking like setting prices for stores
Which is crazy. Oh, yeah, I don't know. So they um, no, I think by undercutting they mean they're like demanding
Uh better pricing from the stores or they like won't list them on the app and stuff like that
So they want to absorb margin from the stores absorb margin from the drivers
and um Absorb margin from tips apparently
Yeah That's crazy
That's crazy, dude
Yeah, Mavs guy says I almost always prefer to go get it myself. I gotta admit
I There's people who are not gonna like this
but For especially certain things. I would rather go to the drive-through myself
And like eat food while I drive than have it delivered to me
Wait, why wouldn't people like that? I don't understand. Well, a lot of people don't like people eating while they drive
Oh You're hilarious
It's also technically illegal. Why don't tell anybody that
Actually, it is distracted driving that is illegal
I could make the argument that I am not distracted by that. What if you had a hands-free burger? Yeah, right?
They'll piece of rope who drives with their hands. Yeah
What year is it?
It's also just good to get out I think
Yeah, I like it Honestly, I don't there's been a there's been a rough amount of food delivery usage in in our place over the last little while
No available kitchen often very focused on work
Trying to get the house unscrewed up But that's like
That's a habit that we're going to be cutting pretty hard I also have vance get lunch for me more than I'd like
It's not because I want to vance is not a uber driver. No, I know
Vance is paid appropriately. Yeah, he's compensated for it. I just I just mean like I'd like to get out more
Is he driving the company car too? People get mad at me if I go out that also helps
You're that tier of person Sorry
You're that tier of person. That's got to be so annoying
Stop wrapping cables you're costing us money
It's legitimately kind of annoying
Like I'd like to I'd like to just you know go to a and w and get a teen burger, you know
Double teen lettuce wrapped. It's like actually pretty all right
In the whole mix of things a and w canada, man. It's great
You don't feel sick afterwards the macros considering you're getting a burger at a fast food restaurant are pretty good. Yeah
Love me some a and w canada. Yeah, that's my that is my s tier fast food
I'm always down for a teen that was my that was my lifeline at the beginning of the house teen burger
I'm not that kind of influencer
I feel it is necessary to clarify in in on this timeline
So just because you don't know A and w burgers are named after like members of a family basically
It's a mama burger and a papa burger and a baby burger and a baby burger. Yep
And a chubby chicken Yeah, I don't know where that came from. Yeah, well, I mean from the egg
Obviously, which came from the chicken which came from the egg
Which came from the chicken? Oh my god, reality's a lie
Which came first
All right, what are we supposed to be doing here? Oh egg
Egg came first let's do a short update on the December 26 when show discussion regarding youtube views
Remember when I was talking about those paid views on that video and I wanted clarification on what counts as a view
Like if somebody just watches five seconds of it and skips it is that a view? So I did
Get a response from my youtube rep and apparently
YouTube no longer hides the sauce
Um, they gave me a straightforward answer. Heck. Yeah, and said that the da da da da da
What is this what is this summary this has to be ai who did this
Where is this? Oh, this is a this is a trash
Summary, why would it be like this the email was so much simpler. I'm just going to read off the email
Okay, where's my where's my email from We shouldn't use output. Maybe we're gonna have to get more explicit about rules around ai internally
Yeah, we might have to do that
Somebody wrote that. Oh, okay. Well good on them then
Okay, so april said it qualifies as a view when the following is met
For skippable in stream ad views a viewer has to watch 30 seconds or until the end of the video
Whichever comes first. Okay. So if they like skip around in it
But they reach the end of the video because they only cared about the conclusion or something. Okay that counts
Okay It counts when a viewer clicks on an element of your video ad such as a call to action
card banner thumbnail or logo when this occurs a click will also be counted
For bumper and non skippable in stream ad views
True view views are not counted for these ad formats because viewers can't skip the ad so their intent isn't clear
For in feed video ad views a viewer clicks on the thumbnail and is taken to the video watch page
Or a viewer watches the video autoplay in line for at least 10 seconds
There is no scenario. We're simply watching with no engagement
A long form video ad for just a few seconds would count as a view on a long form video
So we did get clarification. So what that means to me then is for that number of
Views to have gone up. They must have bought it
A ton of impressions against that thing. I think it was one of those cases where the
Like we're we're cool with high sense and high sense is cool with us
But I think the agency had their own internal kpi's around how many views it was supposed to have
Worth it to them to just create that reality, I guess
Yeah, when like I don't personally see a ton of value in that because I see zero
It's it's organic content. Just let it let it do its thing. It's a great factory tour
You guys should check out the high sense factory tour. We did if you haven't already. It's a really cool production line
and Yeah, however many views it gets is is is fine and forcing people to like watch 30 seconds of it or whatever
Doesn't seem like it. Yeah, which creates it creates a ton of value. Dan. Can you see my screen?
That thing
So maybe a little column a column b
Hmm
Uh, okay new topic, I guess
Yeah hit me Oh
Should we do Short new topic and then those things. Yeah, let's do topics micron highlights. Just how grim the DRAM demands
are micron reported a record revenue of 13.6
A billion dollars in their first fiscal quarter. Yeah, that's one quarter revenue
My god, which is up 57 percent year over year
Even with this increase and migrating resources away from crucial microns in-house consumer brand of memory
It was still only able to achieve roughly 50 to 65 percent of the demand that some of their top customers have
Whoa Can you see micron coming back after the AI surge is done? Honestly, I don't know about that
They just they don't really have to you mean crucial coming back, right? Yeah, I think that's well
I think that's what the discussion question means. It was written as micron, but they don't really have to because
Micron can make their money. Yeah other people label it just selling it to kingston. Yeah or Corsair
Yeah, or g skill or a data or team group or patriot or
Okay, I'm I'm running out of them But the point is that there's a bazillion in one
module manufacturers that you can buy
micron dies on and so I just don't think that the
That the crucial brand I think it would be like cool
Matter to them more competition in that space, I guess, but when they're all just colluding on everything anyways
Um in which space in the DRAM space
In the RAM space. Well, no, I just mean because like we don't need more competition
We don't need more competition in the module manufacturing space. Yeah, that's probably fair
And then I mean more competition is always good, but sort of I mean, I really
It's pretty good. I really think there's enough in the DRAM module space. I mean here hear me out
I'm not saying there isn't necessarily enough. I just always think competition is good. Yeah, okay. Agreed
Agreed, however, there is a lot. I do think that there can be
enough at a certain point where you just
Have enough. I don't think it appreciably
Uh impacts pricing and so I think this is enough
Yeah, I just do there's a lot that don't necessarily matter
Um, well, it's regional, right? That's probably fair like my first computex
I hardly recognized I could I could probably have found like two dozen DRAM module manufacturers
I'd never heard of but crucial was pretty global in that regard crucial was great
And honestly, I will miss crucial more on the SSD side than I will on the DRAM side because
I could trust that they were using Good NAND and I could trust that they were using decent controllers and firmware
And I could trust that if there was a problem they had my back
Whereas I don't necessarily have the same degree of trust with every random storage manufacturer and
Storage is one of those things where unlike DRAM where if it's working it is probably going to work for a very long time
Storage not only degrades and so therefore is quite reliant on using a high-quality product that will last a long time
but also Holds my freaking data
Anything that carries my data is way more important to me than something that makes my
Game FPS go boom boom clicky faster like it's it's it's priorities, right?
Like I just I don't I don't need more FPS that badly, but I definitely do need something to not lose my data that badly
Yeah
All right, Dan what do you want us to do Floatplane announcements we can do that
If you are big into insider knowledge
Floatplane is the place to be this week. Do you want to bring it up? Yeah? Oh
That's the video we're highlighting I
Did a little workshop with my son
Um, and didn't link it didn't link
Well, that's here. We go got it. He's got it. I did a little workshop with my son
Oh exciting and if you have ever thought to yourself
Gee, you know I like watching Linus host a video, but I wonder why that is
I gave a about I think it's about 30 minutes long. I gave my son a crash course on
You know what it takes to get better at hosting in as little as
Half an hour just a bunch of little tips and tricks that I have picked up over the years
and so far their The reception has been really positive actually from the community
And it was the kind of thing that wasn't intended to be a an exclusive over on Floatplane
but We just we were we were having him help host that kindle review video
And I realized I kind of went oh, hey
This would be kind of neat We did this before with uh, tom peterson and ryan trout when they came up here from Intel
And I needed them to say something on the video and I was like, uh, you guys need to improve or like our retention
It's gonna suck and people really liked that exclusive. So this is kind of a longer
I'm excited for this longer version of that with an even greener host who has functionally zero experience
So if you've never hosted a video before it's a I won't call it a master class, but it's an adequate class
Um an adequate video class. Yeah adequate class. Exactly. Thank you
Because I'm not I'm not trained. I'm not the best video host I've ever met not even by a long shot
But I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty darn. Okay, and um, I think that I
Have a pretty good style of sort of identifying things and and explaining them. So yeah, it's a it's a good little good little exclusive
There was definitely more like I watching I haven't watched this yet, but having watched the the main video
There was definitely more learning to be done, but for a first video it did really really really well
Yeah, it was awesome. It was cool to watch if you're more into, you know merch
In this week's why is when late?
Oh, it says I work with kyle, which I assumed meant sammy, but no he means I worked with kyle
He writes these in your voice on choosing which
version Of the non-infringing purple screwdriver. We ultimately chose for mass production
I'm just going to mute this Basically kyle brought me five different versions of it
And I had to pick Which one to my eye and he also checked with other people. This is not a monarchy
But I had to pick which one to my eye Was the one to go to mass production
And turn into the kind of I and desk candy that so many members of the LTT community have been enjoying
The heck out of Someone actually posted an incredible
Collection of LTT screwdrivers over on the forum
This is nuts
Whoa, wow
Black shaft silver shaft orange and black
black staff black shaft silver shaft black and black
They've got the all black stuff that match and the orange and black stubby
Several shaft extensions both knocked to a colorways the non-infringing
Retro screwdriver, and they've even got a bunch of ones that were only available as like mystery
Um, so I think this is all of the end cap color ones and even one of the
Full color mystery ones along with
all Of the transparent and new retro transparent drivers
um Yeah, so people have been posting the heck out of their new screwdrivers and uh
Really enjoying the look of them
I actually have seen there's uh, there's quite a few really good ones of people posting the new uh, oh, yeah
Here, this is the very this is the top post on the subreddit right now like damn
How freaking awesome is that?
Wow, that looks great, right
And it's like it's there. There's a there's a bunch of people posting this stuff. Let's see if I can find it
Blah blah blah. Oh, hold on a second. It has I'm not oh wait. I am logged in
I don't know What I don't know who's the countdown on right now. So I don't know how it's sorting anything
uh Okay, neat. Let's not worry too much about that because there's like
Weak old posts that are coming up, but lately there's been a bunch
Good stuff. Why is this logged into someone's reddit account? I'm gonna log it out. Cool. Good chat
Is it just the the email that's I don't know
Oh Okay, yep. Let's let's not worry too much about that. Yeah, that's cool. Good chat
Uh, oh, this is an interesting one
From we were actually, uh, we meant to talk about this last week, but
Speaking of, you know insiders spilling the beans
A an alleged former amazon developer for amazon go
Reached out to me to correct the record interesting on the ai in these stores just being remote humans. So you remember when
um What what is it? What is that thing where ai stands for?
Uh, actually indians. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so
It broke a little while ago that the amazon go store was allegedly just
humans um mechanical turk. Yeah mechanical turking the the
Cashier list checkout and the machine vision. Mechanical turk is an amazon product
So in this case, it probably would have literally been mechanical turk
um, however a programmer who Says that they worked on the amazon go technology reached out to me to say, um, hey
Um, that's not actually really true. In fact
They claim that the reporting on that mechanical turk story was basically akin to journalistic malpractice because 80 percent of the actions observed in store
Were high confidence and were actually handled entirely by the machine learning models
While only 20 percent ish were mid or low confidence and were sent to be reviewed by mechanical turk for accuracy
The emailer also wanted to make it clear that they are not an amazon bootlicker
And were recently fired and i'm gonna not share the last part of their anecdote
But it's really funny really, but it would make it really easy to identify them
That's probably fair, but it's very funny. Um, it makes me if if real makes me really for sure believe this person
Yeah, i'm sorry. I would love to tell you guys, but I think I do not want to I do not want to out them
Yeah, and this would probably I guarantee you they're the only person who did this thing that they
Say they did um To sort of demonstrate that they're not an amazon bootlicker
So they just wanted us to know that the way that the story presented it was
Not really fair and mechanical turk was used for quality control
It doesn't really change that clearly they ran into a lot of the same challenges that
Self-driving vehicles have been running into where the first 80 percent
Is you know doable without the you know the heaviest lift and then it's that it's that last little bit
It's the edge cases that you have to solve for that are the hardest part that make a project like this potentially
No longer cost-effective And so ultimately they're obviously not working on that anymore amazon did can the program as far as i'm aware
uh, but No, it also wasn't just a bunch of people watching security camera feeds and you know entering your your checkout data
Yeah
Okay team viewer
Uh team viewer. Oh, yeah, sure. But did we do sponsors?
We have one more but we can talk about team viewer first. I'm so irritated
It's not news. What do we do? But i'm just really annoyed. I feel like something's gotta be done. The team viewer community is really upset about this
Hey, my perpetual license was deactivated for remote access. So only land mode works like
What? I'm not asking for updates or new features
I'm simply asking for my original remote access functionality, which existed at the time of purchase to not be taken away
Disabling the main feature of a perpetual license is effect effectively a termination or downgrade of the license
I want you to fix this Yeah, we're on the same ship. I hope they change heart. Yeah, they're not they're not going to
They are not taking enough flak for this
So let's help with that and uh, hey
Don't use team viewer Cool
Oh, no, karashi says we were hit by this at work
Ended up being strong armed into paying for a discounted subscription license. Why would you give them your business?
Use something else. There are other problems. There are other programs
guys No
Do we make like a video guide on?
Getting yourself out of team viewer. That's a pretty good idea
Because we still have stuff we use it for internally and we're gonna have to get rid of it
So like we need to get rid of it like now because i'm thinking like we got to do something
They have to they deserve to be struck. I'm down. Is that something that like Labs wants to work on potentially?
I mean in prep we could probably uh
It seems a little out of use case, but does it?
Yeah, I think so. Are we are we testing? I have no idea. I mean latency would matter
Adequate remote viewer service. I'm just you know, I'm gonna add it. I'll add it to the I'll add it to the pile
Okay All right. Yeah, let's work on alternatives
The team viewer Because yeah, just like I don't know team viewer basically. Yeah big time
I'm very sorry to hear um
That your company is still giving the money Because if you cancel perpetual licenses, you should just
You should just not be allowed to continue to exist. Yeah
Big time. Yeah, a lot of people are talking about rust desk. Apparently it's free and open source and can be self-hosted
Which is not the sales pitch that you think it is for a lot of organizations
Uh, maybe it can also here. I'm going to your screen
Okay, it does not have to be self-hosted. Okay, that's good. That's cool. It's really cool that they have a self-hosted option
There are a bunch of places that will not want that
People are talking about ninja rmm. I mean if you're looking to avoid a subscription that sure as heck is not going to be
The way that you're going to want to go Uh, what else we got? Apparently pancreas knows a bunch of options float viewer confirmed. No
um Noah de boss asks how about parsec to my knowledge parsec doesn't do mobile
That's that that was a big one for us as we needed something that worked mobile to desktop and desktop to mobile without
This is not a prepped topic without knowing
Competitors or anything parsec has been really nice for video editing stuff internally. Yeah, evan benjamin says parsec is only on Android
Not on iOS based up
I mean, no, that's not that's not a competitive advantage for the mook
Maybe they'll figure it out eventually. All right. Well, yeah, maybe this is something that we'll we'll look into on the writing side
And then we'll go from there I mean where Labs would be happy to like test something if you want me to test it here. I just
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fair enough
Yeah, Labs is lazy. I get it No, I'm just all right. We'll do the whole video
It'll be like We'll just rebrand the channel Labs tech tips. Forget that Linus guy. Who needs him? I'm gonna make a Labs channel
I'll just do WAN Show. It's gonna happen. I'll do half of WAN Show actually. Yeah. Yeah, I get it right
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Oh, here's a good one An unlucky rtx 5080 buyer received rocks
in their box in socks
eating locks Posted it to tick tock
It doesn't matter the point is they got rocks in their box and best buy after I think about a six minute
Determined that they weren't going to do anything for them. So they went and did their own darn investigation
finding that
After placing constant calls to filing a better business bureau complaint filing a police report
and Finding evidence that the package gained weight in transit
The user which is like so pathetic. They didn't even Indiana Jones it properly
I know right criminals man. Yeah, I know a joke. I know
Um, so basically found in their own investigation that the package gained weight in transit
And got best buy to finally agree to refund and to best buys credit even price match the original deal
The buyer and this is hilarious apparently got
a commemorative tattoo from their girlfriend
to uh Well, I guess if it's a commemorative tattoo then it's to commemorate
The ordeal, but I'm actually I'm not finding that image. I do. It's the very last one. I've got it blink
nice So it was it was a tough gaming GPU. So that's the ASUS tough gaming logo on a rock
Which is pretty funny. That's actually pretty good. It does look like the logo is glowing and everything
This is one of those ones where it's like I can see I can definitely see
Both sides of the story. I mean best buy must get see that's the thing about fraudsters
Is they will find any opportunity to fraud and so best buy probably does get a lot of fraudulent
Her dear I got bricks in my GPU box. Dude. I yeah, I worked there. This happened all the time
Actually all the time so I can understand why they're just like people would buy her dear forget it xbox 360s and return them without the hard drives
I'm obvious what's going on there customer service person wouldn't notice because they don't necessarily
They're not necessarily familiar with xbox 360s or whatever
They'd be yeah, they'd be missing stuff all the time Why buy an accessory when you can just like steal it. Yeah, right. Yeah
So I can understand that But also like this stuff does happen stuff does get stolen
In transit and so I this user was
Rightfully outraged and the fact that it was so easy to investigate and find out that yeah when this package was weighed
It stopped weighing the same It just feels like best buy didn't even want to solve it. I don't like that
And the dumbest part is that because of the way that this happened
Best buy should actually be entitled to compensation from the courier. This is the courier's problem. This is not best buys liability
So that uh That shopper was one
Tough customer
I feel like Dan was prepped for that It's like loaded and ready. It was overhanding it. Yeah, yeah, you know like that old movie from probably
I'm assuming when we were relatively young Uh of that kid who played baseball and his ARM would like you'd hear like
And then he'd let go and it would fire off and he ended up playing and like
Professional leagues. Do you have anyone? Does anyone know I'm talking rookie of the year rookie of the year
Rookie of the year. Okay. Yeah. No, I've never seen this is it. Wow. The pankrats had that on deck
Um, but yeah that that uh, that was Dan right there
Okay, 1993 Ready to hit the bell
Okay, I probably should have uh, I probably should have seen that one. I'm on the right
It's a 40 on rotten tomato. So maybe not oh yikes. I mean I pulled out airbud, which probably isn't rated much better
Yeah, but airbud is legendary I mean rookie of the year is legendary for me, but it might not be for
For other people. Dude. I don't know. There's some pretty good movies that are rated pretty bad
Yeah, airbud's a 50 percent and a 40 percent from the audience. So
Not so much, but this is going to blow your mind
The boondock saints is rated 26 percent by critics. I had no idea wait by critics. Okay. Yeah
Who cares about that? No, seriously though, but like wait with den with that clock
I was going to say that would definitely go on the list would work for your thing 100 percent
That is a movie to watch how
And like okay, listen, I haven't watched that movie since I was in my late teens early 20s
so Maybe maybe stylistically
artistically It's a crap movie. Maybe it has a bad plot or it's full of cliches and tropes or you know, whatever maybe maybe
but like I remember enjoying it a lot. I thought it was cool
It's been forever since I've seen it, but I thought it was cool
Critics consensus a juvenile ugly movie that represents the worst tendencies of directors channeling Tarantino
Well, I thought it was awesome. Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. But again, I haven't seen it since I was quite young
Who did direct this? Troy Duffy. What else have you directed?
Oh, okay Not much the sequel to the boondock saints, which nobody liked and no whatever the heck guest house is
a zero percenter Wow, this guy looks like he just watched the guest house. Yeah, really. I don't know if I've ever seen a zero
Uh, yeah, that one that I was almost in but got cut out of was a zero for a while
That makes I think it's one percent now. Oh
Oh, it's up to four percent probably Uh, yeah, it only takes two people to give it some amazon reviews came in. Yeah
The plot is ludicrous
It's a true desktop disaster. I hope that person knew what they were doing. I hope so too. They didn't spell it right though
Oh, maybe they didn't then
Luda All right, um, what else we got for today
Apple find a hundred and sixteen million dollars over app. Actually, no, let's let's go to this one because people keep posting about it
Where is it? We don't have notes for this Um, Corsair cancels orders and increases prices
This was mentioned in the pre-show just from some people in chat. Yeah, this is not a prepared topic
Um, but we have a link over to I guess our subreddit that is talking about
Corsair's subreddit and some of what's going on again because this is not a prepared topic
We don't have a lot of notes for this but um, apparently theoretically what's happening is
Corsair is cancelling orders and yeah, then
Hiking prices. I think I read No, yeah in this one
If I scroll down here and this is still on the line of detective subreddit
So I haven't actually gone to Corsair subreddit yet, but this person shared this photo
Um, yeah, I had my RAM order cancelled by them to be fair
It was definitely pricing error on their part 48 gigabytes of DDR5 or 200 bucks
But still very disappointing the prices for the same ran is now double now and you can see this screenshot
That basically says it was a system error So they cancelled it on you and they tried to offer a gesture of goodwill of 15 off your next order
Okay, people are saying in in chat. I read this earlier that in some areas of the world
Maybe not where this is happening. Maybe this is only happening in the states. I don't know but in some areas in the world
This is Illegal apparently
But I don't know if it's illegal where they're doing it. I don't know where they're doing it
Again, this is a fairly unprepared topic. Um, but pretty
crazy, um, especially while
Tensions are rather high over RAM and most of the posts that I'm seeing about this is
Um, RAM stuff Yeah
Okay, yeah, I don't know there's a lot of these posts
There's actually quite a few of them it's going through the course they're subreddit
Okay, but I don't necessarily have a ton to say about it. Yeah, I don't know if it's actually a pricing error
um Then it is what it is and it's actually kind of nice of them to offer a 15 discount
Uh, if it's not A pricing error and it's just pricing going up and them not accounting for it and updating things quickly enough
That is a pricing error of sorts But it's not a pricing error like a like a data input error in the way that we would typically think of a pricing error
And the fact that this is happening on complete systems
Kind of leads me to believe that it could be the latter in which case it's not very cool
Um, either way, it's again not a prepared topic. We don't really know what's going on
Yeah, it's going to be down to sort of following this up with your local consumer protection bureau assuming that you have one
and uh Otherwise or just or just ordering RAM from another apparently they've cranked up the discount
Here's an updated message that I found on a thread. Oh, uh, we are not on a thread. This is a a post itself
Sorry, I don't read it enough. Um Truly understand, but uh 40 off a single DRAM product of your choice
Okay, was the other one for a full system though because I could see 10 off a full system being
I'm not sure but what I do see here at the bottom says the original 15 cube on remains valid for other components on our
Web store got it. So that was probably for a system. Oh
Okay, interesting sounds more like DRAM to me So what this tells me then is Corsair has some stock probably of DRAM that they are
That is at old contract pricing and they're able to use some of the margin that they have
On their DRAM that they have at the old pricing as pricing is going up to offer a discount and I mean that's something at least
Yeah, all right, again, don't know all the details blah blah blah insert various caveats. Oh speaking of the LTT subreddit
Um before anyone notices it and goes. Sorry what?
Um, oh shoot. I can't I can't see a list of moderators without being logged in
But I am officially a moderator on the subreddit now
This is not because our plan is to you know be meanies and censor people
um, but Can I make a new account and you flag me as me then?
Yeah, I can do that because I can't recover my old reddit account. Oh, okay
Unless someone watching like knows people at reddit and can help me
Oh, I mean that's probably true too. That would be awesome because I can't recover my old reddit account. Cool
It seems like when we migrated from last pass to keeper
Maybe that password didn't come along and I never attached it to an email because you at least used to be able to do that on reddit
So there seems to be no way for me to recover the account I can log into it. I just have to boot up my old computer which still has an active session
For whatever reason it's been like You know, I I'm pretty sure the time gap in which I tried it was like over six months
And then it just it worked no problem, but even being logged into the account
I can't do anything to recover it or set a new password. So I have been locked out
cool So, yeah, the goal is not to you know
Be mean or anything like that
But I'm also not going to claim that if I see someone who's a complete bad faith
Dumb dumb that they will continue to have posting privileges. So make of that
what you will so for instance, there's a thread about the new true spec cables and
You know, these are going to be the new monster cable and they're going to be have absurd pricing and
You can just I don't know post on other subreddits I guess because you don't actually have evidence for the claim that you're making
Um, I think if the community counters that person significantly enough, it might even be good to leave it up
Um, why? Uh, so that people can see that an argument for that was made and immediately discounted
But I mean, that's all your call. Yeah
All right, duly noted It's just an just an idea
I think there will be cases where that makes sense and there will be plenty of cases where that does not make sense
Yeah, I don't know. I think uh, I think buddy here who says I've always wanted to buy
Expensive overpriced usb cables, but didn't feel like going to Best Buy. I think they can just take a vacation though
Like do they what why why do they need to be here?
I mean the hate watchers need somewhere to post but they could post somewhere else
There are other places. There are other places where people can post
That is an option. It's a hundred percent an option. I'll think about it so far
I have not I have not banned anyone, but uh, I don't know. That's not necessarily a guarantee is all I'm saying
And to be clear this is not down to So people in chat are saying dissenting opinions are okay. So here's the problem
This is not a product that they have seen
It's not a product that they know anything about If we reviewed things site unseen you'd be pissed. Yeah, you'd hate it
You'd say that we've completely lost all credibility and any right to offer up an opinion on things
If we just said stuff completely without any precedent for it or any evidence
It's just completely bad faith engagement and there's
Really no need for it. Now if someone wants to review the cables, that's totally different. Go for it. That's totally different
We've even highlighted reviews of our products that contain negative sentiments here on the windshow. Yep
We're open to that But if you're just
Trashing on something that you don't know anything about you don't know the pricing
You don't know the quality and you're just saying it's bad. You have outed yourself. You've outed yourself as
A non credible non serious person. No, that's not that's not the same thing guys
You don't get to have an opinion about something that you don't
Actually know literally anything about
Demonstrably you don't know anything about it just kind of doesn't really work like that
Unique username asks will you delete comments that assume the product is great without them having seen it or having evidenced otherwise
I don't think I saw any
Sorry say that again. I wasn't listening Well, you also delete someone who assumes that the product is great
Without them having seen it or having it be evidenced otherwise I will say that I banned someone on the youtube channel who was who was spamming
Um an inaccurate defense of some scandal that we had
so they they were like Ra ra ra super pro LTT also not hopeful about something
And there was misinformation in their defense. So I shadow banned them
So no, I'm not interested in people white knighting inaccurately
However
That one requires a think that one definitely requires a think
All right, king jarra says you get to have an opinion on anything. It's an opinion
Yeah, but it's also not a it's not a government public forum. Yeah, you can go have that opinion anywhere
You can do it somewhere else. I don't I don't personally like I think there are so I used to be really ra ra about
Moderation standards on on in certain ways and blah blah blah blah, but I think the internet is so huge now
You and I were like militantly. Nothing should be deleted. Yeah for a very long time
The the only like primary rule on the forum was that you can attack us too
But no personal tax against other people Um and that like that's even that's like really really open
But now there's just there's just
It's so easy to mass generate accounts. It's so easy to ai spam with things
um there's so much like
group think hatred for Everything you could possibly ever imagine. I'm not even just talking about us
Um at all to be clear. Um, and it's so easy to hijack a community
with Surprisingly little effort to just make it a terrible place
And it's so common now that I just I just don't really care anymore
Um, there are 10 million other places on the internet more than that that you can go
It's not like we're like taking your house from you
like It's literally reddit. There's probably more of subreddits than that
Oh, there are also other subreddits that will talk about us and our stuff
Binky draws says i'm a moderator on a medium-sized discord server and there's a huge problem with bot accounts
Yeah, like it's it's uh, it's actually unreasonable to
Do in my opinion, what would be considered as like old style of moderation anymore? Um
Yeah And there's a big difference between saying that you feel
That the cables might be overpriced and low quality versus saying definitively that it is. Yeah, sure huge difference
All right, what else we got going on here Oh NVIDIA and AMD rumored to be preparing GPU price hikes in q1 of 2026 and
Adding some weight to this an ASUS letter has allegedly leaked announcing price hikes starting january 5th
Which means that it could be our um
It could be our last positive
How much is the Intel arc b580?
investigation check
Is the b580 still msr? Oh god, what is this?
Are you kidding me? Wait, wait, wait. Oh out of stock
No, is that another stock to you? No. Yeah, i'm down into i'm down into all the out of stock stuff
No Was last week the last one
Dan don't tell people to panic Why would you tell people to panic?
It's all going wrong. Why would you why would you spray? Why would you spread panic literally?
Literally spreading panic burn down your village
Okay, hold on hold on wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, it's an open box. That's an open box
Wait, but hold on Is this a shift in usd cad?
No, it's more of a gap than that. This is us. What is there msr? Oh, no, this you have this. I'm on the us site, dude
So what is it supposed to be again 249 for the b580?
And the lowest one is 299
It hit the holiday bundle is still there, but it's over
b580 at msrp party is over
Oh boy No
No
Oh, that is such a downer Cell cell cell dump it Dan stop it
You are not you are the definition of not helping
All right, what about canada? Okay b580 can computers are you gonna let me down here?
Okay Online sold out online available for 400. That's way over 250
No No
No, it's 300 us now
Oh, this is probably not the end of it either. All right
359 from new egg reports out of korea say no, there was one for 299
Reports out of korea say that in no cad
Sorry, what cad? Oh where on new egg? Yeah
Is it in stock? I don't see a thing that says stock to be honest
Yeah, I took heart. I think you're good
Boom Okay, so you can still get them at new egg canada
For about 249 us actually it's a touch higher, but it's a little bit higher. It's not too bad
That is often how that goes. All right. Do I get to finish the sentence now? Yes. I'm having a very luke experience
Reports out of korea say I have to do it again that NVIDIA and AMD are planning to jack up GPU prices throughout the show
in early 2026 and the top end gforce rtx 5090 could end up around five
Thousand dollars, which is more than double what it first launched for
Memory costs and broader GPU supply issues are squeezing component prices and makers are said to be shifting
More of their production towards ai and data centers, which will boost prices across the board
The hikes are expected to happen in steps throughout q1 2026 affecting not only flagship cards, but a range of consumer gpus
Meanwhile, ASUS sent partners a notice that starting january 5th of 2026
It will raise prices on some of its products right before ces gets going
Roughly translated ASUS's letter doesn't list exact models. It just says they're doing strategic price
adjustments on certain product combinations
Discussion question in your time as a tech enthusiast
Can you remember a worst start to the new year for the tech industry price hikes and shortages seems like a pretty bad way to kick off
2026
um I don't know it's this is a tough one because on the one hand there's a lot of bad news
This is all bad news WAN Show has kind of become bad news show
yeah, but And this is part of remember that that conversation we had over the kind of the last couple of weeks about sort of the bright side
bright side of tech and gaming This is one of the things that made its way into the full LTT video on this
Okay, you can go to pc part picker right now
And you can select Magnificent AMD gaming and streaming build
And this thing really is magnificent It has a 9800 x3d the fastest gaming processor known to mankind
It has a sick thermal right Giant dual tower cooler. It has a b580 pro a
Motherboard or whatever you could get some other motherboard if you really want actually apparently this one's out of stock. Let's see
Everything else is either Uh-oh
Hold on. We might be in trouble Okay, when I looked earlier this week this particular GPU was in stock
Oh No at time of filming
At time of filming. Hold on. Let's try and find another one. I'm gonna find one. I'm gonna find one
Just a sec. Just a second. I'm gonna recover this. There's two different magnificent builds. Hold on. Hold on. There's an Intel on an AMD
Oh, what am I doing? Getting distracted
Rtx 5080. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Okay, so for 11 11 99. Okay, so that's a little more. That's a little more
It is 17 16 dollars more. Okay, so that's fine my point stands
So you just got to go find a motherboard which is fine. Okay. Well, so we'll pay at most maybe another like 30 40 bucks
Okay, everything else here is in stock. Cool. Okay, so this is a sick system
32 gigs of DDR5 6000 cl 30 memory. It's a nice little memory kit two terabytes
This is samsung 980 pro. There's a nice SSD
Okay, rtx 5080 argb quick case from Corsair. You could save a few bucks by not going Corsair
Uh thousand watt 80 plus gold modular power supply. This is a sick build
for let's call it 2650 us dollars
is If we're looking at the guides page of pc park bigger, which ones?
Is maybe top two. Do you think people are actually building that hold on hold on that's not quite the point
Yeah, okay. I think it matters, but all right. The point is that we did a 4k gaming system build guide 11 years ago
Putting together a top spec gaming machine
was four thousand dollars At that time the 4k build was 4k. I actually remember joking about that at the time
So Is it bad?
Well, yeah, it's definitely bad that this RAM is more expensive than it was
It's definitely bad that GPU prices are going up
But Gaming and tech have still kind of been there for us in a pretty big way
The fact that I can buy an absolute monster of a machine
For 2,500 bucks compared to the way that everything else in our lives is going up
It's pretty cool
It could be better. Yeah, I'd love it if it was better. Yeah, I also think like the the disproportional hit is not on people
Buying the magnificent build and that's true and that's true
It's rough. Yeah It was like even if you're going for the great and like I I did scroll down here
I noticed there's the entry and modest are like way below the fold
Hold on have a have a click on the entry level one though Because like I remember building an entry level system for myself back in the
Sort of mid to late 2000s and it didn't even have a dedicated GPU. I'm willing to bet this has a dedicated GPU
Yeah, b580. Yeah So like it's showing an msrp b580. Oh, yeah, there you go bnh apparently has stock
What out of stock. Oh in stock in stock. Oh, okay. That looked that didn't look green
It looked gray. It looked like a gray circle with a slash through it from here
I think it is gray. It's just a check mark, but it's okay. That's really stupid a little odd bnh
You should probably use the color green for that I just just convention
That's my opinion which i'm entitled to have
Yeah You know you could get banned. I could and they're allowed to ban me from their site. They are allowed to they're actually allowed to do that. Yeah
um The the the 32 gigs ran for 179 is
surprising so Yes, you know
It could be it could be It could be better
But I also do feel like some of this is people just kind of piling on to an issue
And Rage baiting and I don't think it's rage baiting
I think I think you're uh, you don't think people posting like a $2,000 RAM kid is rage baiting a little bit
Nobody was buying that anyway. Okay, maybe a little bit even if it was a thousand. I'm sure there's I'm sure there's some of that
This does still definitely suck for people that it does especially on the lower end where like a
because if I remember correctly the magnificent bill that RAM cost was about was
Like a little bit more than 10 percent Yeah
Yeah, it was on some of these entry ones. I'm assuming this is like a really significant punch
Like when we're looking at great AMD gaming build. Yeah, I haven't even clicked on this one yet. Let's see
Yeah, like the ramping 314 dollars on a system that is where is it?
1387 yeah is going to push past people's limits to the point where they might have to step down
Um, hold on. Can you go back to that one though? Sure
But let's again, let's look at the bigger picture here
So this is a really nice six core processor
Uh, what kind of GPU do we have in here? We have a 50. Ooh, we have a 50 60 ti a game stop SSD
Okay, no this build sucks. What is a game stop? I didn't know game stop had I might just generally have kind of issues with this
Build though because what on earth are you doing using and is this?
Oh, this is a thing. Yeah, this is a thing. That's wild. Sorry. I had no idea at this budget
You should be using a stock cooler though. You should not be using an x chip which just saved you probably about 40 bucks
What else do we have here? Oh that 50 60 ti is not the choice
So you should just be using an arc b580 which just saved you another hundred plus
Dollars no not a hundred plus. Oh, yeah, which just saved you like another hundred fifty dollars
Also, if I'm spending 70 dollars on a case, I'm sure as heck not getting a mon tech
And I do not need a 750 watt power supply. That's a crappy build
This is where I think in this price range you're going to benefit from at least doing a
At the very least a bit of a hybrid approach try to get your case used or something. I would for sure get one on facebook marketplace
Yeah, this is this is not uh I haven't priced out a rig in a long time. I'm not going to comment but
Yeah, that's that's not a good. That's not a well configured build
um Is it possible that it was at one point and then pricing changes made it worse?
That is possible But also it's just like got too big of a power supply which is great if you're trying to future proof
but if you're targeting like around a thousand to eleven hundred dollars then
you're In my opinion better off getting what you need
um 750 watt Yeah, you'd want to spec down from that dude if i'm if i'm running an rtx 40 60
Like what does an rtx 40 60 even use like 200 watts or something 50 60 ti?
I'm not sure. Sorry. What was it 50 60 ti? Okay. Let me check what a 50 60 ti is because I don't think it uses a ton of power
Yeah, it's it's a 180 watt card
I just found it's and then you have a 95 You have a 95 watt CPU
What are you doing buying a 750 watt power supply for that? I don't know how much money you're going to save going down to
650 or 550 or something it adds up though
Yeah, because you could save 20 bucks on your case you could save
Uh 30 what what I say about 40 bucks on your CPU and cooler
You can save what another 15 20 bucks on your power supply. You could save 100 150 bucks on your GPU
Okay, now we're talking about an appreciable difference and how much you're paying for this computer like
It's This is what I spent years of my life doing on the ncix forums
Is saving three dollars on this and ten dollars on that
And 15 bucks on this and four dollars on that and all of a sudden you saved some more fans
You saved a hundred dollars on your system. That's a free copy of Windows back when people bought that what no one ever did
Uh, oh, yeah, that's a lie. Dude. Do you have any idea how many system invoices I have looked at in my life?
People buy Windows. This is going to be mind-blowing for for many many members of our audience
many members of our audience People definitely definitely buy Windows
And just scrolling through some of the power supplies. You're not going to save a ton, but you might save 10 bucks
Yeah, which is hey 10 bucks is 10 bucks
Especially if you don't need modular like oh wait, hold on. Was that one modular?
Uh, okay the one in the build. Yeah
Well, I mean it's like 10 trillion different ones. I think yeah, it's modular
So that's part of the filters you do not need a modular power supply in a thousand dollar build
That's that's silly. You should not be doing that So people are just they're making unwise decisions in the configuration and going how long a lot of the power supplies
I've had have lasted I might want to get a a bit higher wattage modular one knowing that I can carry it into my next build
Sure, but then you're going to be making Compromises that I personally would consider to be unacceptable at that budget
At that budget i'm $10 more on a power supply
If I think I can carry it into my next build it all adds up I mean, but that's how you end up
Spending a little more on every component because you could I could make the same justification across the board
You don't need 32 gigs of RAM today
Yeah I don't know if that's valid you like it
I don't know if it's saying you can do that for every component is valid though
There are power supplies that have lasted a what he ought to minute. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying
I'm saying that that that rationale that
That while This could last a little longer if I get a better one you could say the same thing for the case for sure
Yeah, like I'll get a slightly better case. I think the case and then you could say the better thing
You could say the better same thing for your CPU cooler I'll get a better CPU cooler and I'll carry it forward with me to the next build
Especially if you can get new mounting brackets or or make your own and so my point is and now all of a sudden
You're you're kind of buying a different class of machine
And when I'm configuring disagree when I'm configuring a thousand dollar build
I'm focused on performance I don't think I'm getting to a different class machine by spending 10 more dollars on my power supply
But you are you're using a different rationale for how you're choosing your components sure
I am choosing my components at that price point based on what this gets me today
If I can get some degree of future proofness out of it, then that's great
But I don't think that a 650 or even a 550 watt power supply is going to meaningfully impact my upgrade path
Because at the end of the day if I'm someone that's shopping for a 50 60 ti today
I am not someone that's shopping for a 70 80 in a couple of years
That's a completely different class of product And if I am that might be totally legit depending on life stage
And but if I am and my life stage has changed that much you might also get a higher quality power supply
That's it would take some research, but sure But if you're looking at you know 10 or 20 dollars cheaper, you're still getting a quality unit
You're just getting one that's rated a little lower And the same way that if my life stage has changed such that I go from shopping for an arc b580 to shopping for
a 70 80 Or something like that. I'm all of a sudden I can afford a 1500 dollar GPU
My life stage has probably changed to the point where I could offload my old system and I could buy a new power supply
Like that's the thing working at the computer store, man
I thought everybody upgrades their computers
People don't upgrade their computers. I do though. I know you do which is why your perspective is very interesting
but As someone who worked at the store
Yeah, but we're talking to people in the community that might actually upgrade their stuff
Of course, there are some ancient power supplies that are not well priced on phaser marketplace. This is rough
Well, look at how old this xfx power supply is
I mean, it's also 60 bucks. It's also 40 about 45 us dollars
I mean, I'd trust that in my system It is old
Yeah Is that 80 plus gold or bronze?
Oh, that's one of their weaker ones. Um
xfx's power supplies from that era were quality though, and I believe this is this is the
All wattage available on the 12 volt rail era. You can you can double check that by just zooming in really close
Yeah, 744 of this 755 watts is on the 12 volt rail
Um, I would probably check real quick and just make sure that it doesn't have like a virtual multi rail thing
That's going to cause ocp to trip, but I believe this is post that as well
So I would I would probably trust that xfx. It's not going to be the most efficient thing in the world
But it should be reliable. It's just so old
Yeah, but like so Like three minutes ago. You were like, well power supply part of the justification for spending more is I can use it a long time
Buying one without a significant discount that is already ancient. How is it not a significant discount?
What's a 750 watt power supply today? I don't know in Canada
Well, I mean we can it doesn't feel like a significant if only I mean
We we can't just go on vibes and feelings Right, but I'm acknowledging that because we're having a discussion about something that I don't have up-to-date numbers on this are very reasonable
Okay, okay. It is a very significant discount. Okay. Yeah
I'd be interested to see from like lucas or something like grabbing a bunch of
Old power supplies like that I ah, you know what I wanted to do years ago
Do you remember the video that we did where we got a brand new evga?
580 gtx and we compared it against one that had been used for like 10 years
To find out if Like because people people imagine that their their silicon devices go slower over time
And we basically had been trying to debunk that for a long time like
I'm not a memory of this. I do have some memory if it runs at
megahertz x Then it is running at megahertz x like
modern silicon that you know has that can that that dynamically
Changes its clock speeds right that turbo boosts
might turbo less aggressively over time or your thermal interface material might degrade
Right and that could impact performance, but megahertz is megahertz. I don't make the rules
it runs at the speed it runs at and If you are imagining that there is some kind of slowdown
It is probably because your demands have increased or the software that you're using is
um Well, I guess that's basically just another way of saying your demands have increased
and um, which is almost certainly happening which is almost certainly happening
And you imagined it or or you imagined it Those are those are basically the two options and you'd have people swearing up and down that
Running exactly the same software exactly the same way it gets slower over time. So we we debunked it once and for all
We took a brand new sealed in box that evga found for us
And tested it against an old one that had been on the bench for years and also in someone's system for years
And we ran them through the exact same suite and lo and behold they performed
Exactly the same because that's how it works. Did you tim replace the heavily used one?
I don't even think well, we didn't because it didn't matter because there was no dynamic clock speed adjustments on the 580
So the point was if it's running at clock speed x then its performance will be x
It's that simple And I had wanted to do the same thing for a power supply
I wanted to get my hands on a brand new
Old model power supply And compare it against one that had been deployed for 10 years or something like that in someone's
You know server closet or something and I was just I was never able to get it together because
Everyone talks about how you should budget like 10 for a capacitor aging
but My understanding is that's actually
Super ancient outdated device outdated advice from like the electrolytic
Capacitor era like solid state caps from my understanding of them may decay a little bit
But not to nearly the same degree that those older power supplies did
But I just I haven't really I haven't pursued it recently
But I when I like looked into it and wanted to do it. I wasn't able to find anyone who was able to
To get me an old one Um
And and an untouched oh and pock nor 47 and Floatplane chat for crying out loud
Context matters They're saying I understand the point but megahertz is a terrible metric
I had a pentium 4 that ran at 3 gigahertz and my 5800 x3 runs at 3.4 not what I was saying
We're talking two of an identical product over time
Context matters not ipc improvements and stuff
Sheesh all right
Anywho
Um What topic are we even on?
Oh, okay. We got now we were done that new one modders are slapping 32 gigs of um on NVIDIA's rtx 50 80s
but Spoiler that's not good news for gamers
The modded variants are for AI workstations and servers
cool I guess there's really
Not much to say about it other than that what tier of modders is doing this like is this could people do this at home
Oh heavens now. Yeah, I didn't think so. Yeah
I knew there was some like, you know back in the langley house. There was
um Some power mods you could do to cards that were like
consumer level doable. I think it was uh, I think it was
Yeah, this already. Yeah, I think it was kingpin. Yeah
Who uh cut the back end off of a GPU and like took the like the back end vrm of another GPU and just like
Soldered them together and ran it. I might be remembering this incorrectly. I don't know but I didn't even think he cut one off
I thought he just like it came out in an angle. He's probably done both if we're being realistic
Yeah, what am I looking at here? Whatever i'm looking at. Um is not something that regular people will be doing
No, so it's pretty sick though. I love that their test platform
Just is a hunk of copper on the GPU
So that it will run long enough for them to verify post
It's just it is literally a heat sink That's awesome. The GPU is sinking heat into this copper slug
With no actual active cooling on it whatsoever because it's not worth reassembling just to find out if it will
post That is amazing. I'm saying this to the public not to you, but you ever seen the palm method
I've used it. Yeah, me too You just put your hand on the chip and you use human water cooling to keep it from frying itself while you just see if it works
You gotta go relatively fast. That'll get hot real fast
um, but oh man Mc mcbane says Linus has not been watching north ridge fix. Okay. I don't know if this was from north ridge fix
But I did see a motherboard repair that went viral recently that was
Mind-blowing like multi-layer pcb. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I saw something about that
unreal Unreal at that point. You're just flexing. I think by the way
Um, do as we say not as we do putting your hand on the chip. Uh, people in people in chat are all like
Yeah, I burned myself doing that lost a couple fingerprints. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're not recommending that
That's a terrible terrible idea. It's bad for your body. It's bad for the the electronic device
Cool. Good chat. Uh, apple don't do it again apple has been
Apple has been fined 116 million over app privacy prompts
This is wild italy's antitrust authority has fined apple 98.6 million euro
saying that one of the company's privacy features
unfairly restricted competition in the app store
Hold on a second though regulators were focused on app tracking transparency
apple's system that requires apps to ask users for permission before tracking them for targeted ads
italy says apple forces third-party apps to ask for user consent twice
Creating extra friction that hurts developers and advertisers who rely on ad revenue
But that sounds okay
I'm with apple on this one. Yeah a hundred percent apple argues the ruling prioritizes ad tech companies over user privacy
Yeah, uh, yeah And says a t t
App tracking transparency gives users clear control over dragon, which is great applies equal
Equally to all developers, which is great. Well, hold on. Does it apply equally to apple? That's the one thing
That's what I thought this was gonna talk about And does it does it actually not?
Apply to apple. Yeah, I mean I don't use I don't know man the first time you log into an iphone
It's pretty full of ads to use apple services like iCloud and stuff like that. I don't know that necessarily
Qualifies as a targeted ad, but I would say that an iCloud subscription to someone who owns an iphone
Yeah, I'd call that a targeted ad Interesting anyway interesting line carry on not saying I disagree but interesting line. I don't think it's quite the same
No, I understand what you're saying. It also isn't
Not a targeted ad totally. Yeah, if they know i'm out of storage
for my photos And they give me the second it becomes storage-based it feels like it's a little bit more so
Ah, it's still it's still like they are still technically different things and they sure as hell aren't offering me
A cloud storage option from anyone else. Yeah, does apple do anti-competitive things? Oh, yeah
Yeah, one drive for your iphone, but is app tracking transparency?
Uh requiring apps to ask users for permission before tracking them one of them
Yeah, that one I'm more with apple on
And someone asks is this analogous to one drive in microsoft
Uh, absolutely. Yeah, and it's just as f***ing ridiculous. Yeah, see that's the whole thing, right?
Is I often get told i'm hating on apple
But I hate it exactly the same if microsoft does it
So maybe Possibly what I hate is the behavior and the attitude
And there's a lot of that on microsoft. Oh
The the decision follows a similar ruling in france earlier this year where apple was fined 150 million
euros over the same feature
I like this feature though. Yeah
I I really don't care about anything that apple does that is a big middle finger to the targeted ad industry man back with
I I don't I think this comparison makes sense back when tell us was cool
They would call you when your contract was about up and be like look we can go kind of two different paths here
We can get you more performance for the same price or same performance for less price
Choose your path and it was always like what a great phone call to receive and then they stopped doing that because they're dumb
Um, I don't have a I got an email from them like talking about a few things because I called them out for a practice
That I was going to like actually go after them for and then they fix it so things are good. Um
But I also called that out because I was like this was such an amazing phone call
I would get a call every like two years. It would be from tell us I would see tell us on the caller id and be excited because I was like nice. I'm either getting faster internet or
Less money being taken away. There was a great call every time
blah blah blah their argument was that like people hated the calls
I'm like there is no way that people hated those calls more than their bill going up without them knowing that it's happening
Or their neighbor getting a better deal than they are just because they didn't know
Yeah, so like there's actually that's just a bs excuse
And they could have also done it as an email if people don't like the calls
Definitely figured out that this just like they could have applied it automatically cost you money. Yeah. Yeah
There were many other there were many other paths to take so like don't tell me the the thing
Tim 000x3 says the do not track button on iphone is the reason that I use iphone
Yeah, there are apps that I desperately need on Android, but I can't justify it
I could use a hardened version of Android But the best one to do that with is for the pixel graphing os shout out and I don't want to give money to google tim
I have an idea for you buy a secondhand pixel
You can have a pixel you can run graphing os you can give google zero dollars
Just just an idea just a thought pretty good wgd 118 says Linus
Do you have more knowledge about the targeted ad industry now that you're buying ads for LTT Store for the backpack and screwdrivers?
I'll be honest with you. I am not buying those ads I don't know anything more about it other than
You know what I know from like the news and you know learning about it and stuff
Yeah, the the other part of what I was going to say is whenever my phone mentions like
Hey, we noticed that these apps have
Privacy features on them or whatever and you don't use these apps very much. Do you want to remove their privacy features?
That's such a like Thanks, bro. It's such a bro notification. Thanks for sending me that. I wanted to see that. Thank you very much
Even if I'm like, no, those are fine Very happy to receive that notification. Just like that. Tell us call. There are certain things this app
Tracking transparency. I want that pop-up. That's a great pop-up. Thanks for giving me that pop-up
Heck, yeah anyways Moving on
Is that it for topics? Yeah, it's after dark. You have a thing up here playing expedition 33. Oh, yeah, I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, good
I'm playing on the gpd win five, which is
Oh, that's the big chonker one, right? No. Oh, it's the
reasonable sized one That apple vision pro style
has a tether to a battery that like you could put in your pocket
Except This is pretty funny. He just played in bed. I put it in my pocket
Um, when I was sitting at the at the kitchen nook table eating my bedtime cereal
That I'm back on because I lost a bunch of weight. So what's the downside?
I made that Not really how that works, but hey, whatever
Well, what am I going to do gain back my weight like I'm still exercising. So whatever which honestly, I was clearly calorie calorie deficit
So if I'm just going to like consume some more calories and keep working out
I was I was playing badminton with a former Canadian Olympian. Uh, is this yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. Uh, she's she's super chill
Wrong one That would be impressive. There we go. Yeah, so uh, she came by smash. Yeah, she came by smash champs and was hanging with us
And uh, her thank you the facilities her and her husband bobby millroy who is also um
Back in the day Pretty pretty hardcore. He was a little younger here
um, but yeah, absolutely like They're older than me and Yvonne, but they were pros
Right, and it's just it shows. It's a completely different
level like they can just They can hit the straight shot
And and straight shot doesn't mean straight. It just means the um, the highest probability shot from that position
You kind of get what I mean by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, so they can hit the straight shot and they can like keep a rally going with us or they can just like
Do like a double like a double pump or like uh, like a weird
Sort of like, you know slice shot or whatever and then just
We call it an ankle breaker And they can just have you moving completely the wrong direction and like it goes the other way
And they can just like end the rally kind of anytime they want Um, anyway, what was I talking about?
Uh, expedition 33 and then oh, yeah expedition 33. So anyway, the point is I've been exercising
I don't care about my bedtime cereal deal with this. Um, oh, I however, that's fine. However, it can lead to problems
See, I was sitting there playing expedition 33 with the battery in my pocket
And I was actually done eating my cereal, which is good
Because I had the bowl with just like a little bit of milk and and my spoon and I went to get up and grab something
And I dragged the I dragged the gpd win five off the table which hit the bowl which
Fortunately, it didn't break went onto the floor like splashed milk everywhere and everything lived and it goes to show
How Changeable our habits can be because there was a time in my life when I was constantly attached to a discman
when I would have been sure to gather up all my things before I
Got up from a table But I am no longer that man
Bluetooth headphones. I was just gonna say have changed my habits. I I've been uh, you know working around the house
Things are getting extremely close to being done
Uh, but I've been wearing some bluetooth headphones while I'll like maybe I'll sit and do something for a little bit
And then go do something else whatever. Yeah, and I'll do I'll do this
To move the cable that isn't there And it like I'll like I'll go to get up and I'll move the cable out of the way so that I'm not gonna like step on it
Or whatever is such a drug dude, and it's uh, I just feel so weird every time I do it
And I don't contact anything and I'm like, oh, where's the cable? Then I have to remember that I'm wearing bluetooth headphones. Oh, this is so strange. That's hilarious. Yeah
Oh lordy Ew people are talking about pouring the milk first and then putting cereal in it's so incorrect
It bothers me. Have you banned people on the full plane jet? Yeah, we should
Oh, that's that's a good good. That is literally a wrong opinion. Have you heard about this true nas stitching smart tests? Yvonne does it
Oh, she's a milk first then cereal person. So here's her justification. Hold on
She doesn't like soggy cereal and she doesn't like
Rapid top-upper, so she'll top it up. Yeah
However, I think that's acceptable. I that is like one of the few times
If you're pouring milk into a bowl and you bring the cereal with you. Yeah, she'll have the cereal at hand on the table
She gets a pass. That's that's allowed. Yeah So she gets a pass. Yep. Yep. Yep
I still don't like it I still don't like it either, but she gets a pass but in the same way just like I don't like it when the toilet paper roll
goes goes uh
Under instead of over I understand why and cat owners will understand why
That's right. Yeah, they go like this and it doesn't unravel. Yeah
There can be good reasons to do bad things
Speaking of anything about that I don't we have no notes on this. I don't think it's a topic
But true nas is ditching smart tests Do you have thoughts? Yeah. Oh wait, I haven't talked about expedition 33 yet. Okay. Yeah, we'll come back
I like it and I especially like playing it on the wing five that thing is a monster
It's Strix halo. Oh, okay. Yeah
Yeah, this is like an over 2000 us dollar handheld
What a sick name with a with a frickin like umbilical cord on it like it's it's the least sensible
Like most out-of-touch device that I've probably used since the vision pro
Which conveniently also had the same tether problem. Not conveniently inconveniently
And conveniently enough that I don't think they're making anymore Apparently they're cutting production back, which to me is a big surprise because
I Wouldn't have thought they were making them at all at this point. I would have thought they would have plenty of
Inventory from their first I think there are some professional use cases that are like pretty stoked on it. Cool. Good, but not very many. Yeah
That that's good. I have you have you played expedition 33. No, is your computer back up and running?
It was and it is no longer nice because now we're solid
My dad was putting baseboards in when I left the house today
And they're being painted over the weekend and then things will be getting put back in place next week
Okay, cool Anyway, not that you need me to endorse it given that it practically swept the game awards
But I am enjoying the crap out of it and I am
I'm doing something kind of different and and fun with it. I am playing it in french, which
I That's cool. I'm way I need subbed. I need subtitles. Sure, but that's cool. But what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to understand
The dialogue Oh, that's pretty sick And then I'm and I'm checking and what's funny is the reason that I started doing it was completely not for that
It was not to practice my french comprehension. It was because I like playing jrp or rpgs. Sorry. I like playing rpgs
Um, sorry Well, I'll call it a jrpg. It's not developed by it. Yeah. Yeah
But I like playing rpgs not with english dialogue. Isn't it japanese style not japanese developer?
It is But I don't know. There's a lot of western influence in this one too. I wouldn't okay. There's a lot of japanese influence
but yeah, no, I just Yeah, I
F RPG what it definitely is is an rpg. Sure. Yeah, so let's go with that got it
And so I don't like english dialogue because I come from the rpg era where everything was text and there was no voice acting
And when they added voice acting that actually really like slowed down my
That's such a lightest ruffle my ability to play the game
And I find it a lot less
If they're going to If I'm gonna skip through something
Oh, that totally makes sense I actually find it way less distracting if the dialogue is in I so I'll usually set it to japanese because
Usually japanese is an option. So if I want to so I played final fantasy tactics like this
I get to enjoy the original japanese intonation. Yeah with my
English Comprehension and I can skip it in the middle of a sentence. It's not really an effect
And I'll never know the difference. So that was what I actually was setting out to do
I went to switch it to japanese because I didn't know or care which
Other options there were because I was like, that's what I always do. I always just switch it to japanese
And then the first option was actually french and I was like, oh, yeah
That makes sense. Why don't I try that and I'll see if it like bothers me
Because I have a little bit of comprehension of it I'll I'll see if it works the same way and I find french no offense to japanese
No offense whatsoever. I find french to be a very beautiful language to just hear
More so than japanese. Sorry. Sorry my personal opinion. You can ban me for it
And I switched it over and I understood more than I thought I would and I was like, okay
Well, this is a fun little exercise. Why don't I why don't I try to like pick up my french comprehension a little bit?
It's really tough with like Thickly accented characters. Oh, yeah and stuff. I can imagine but with all of the playable characters so far
um, there's a lot of like vocab that I'm missing but
It's been yeah, it's been good. It's been fun. I I think I've told you about this before but the first time
We went to germany for like the sennheiser thing. I think that was the first time I went to germany for work
um It was really interesting because I had taken a little bit of german in high school
I was definitely not fluent, but I knew some stuff and I could have like extremely basic conversations
Um, and then it had been many years. So I had lost most of that and there was there's no
I don't know anywhere around here that I could converse with so it was just loss for years
You could try to speak german to me and I sure. Yeah, I can give you one of those. I can't anymore
Which is part of the story But the the first time we went it was very interesting because I could I could pick up on a lot
I could kind of understand the point of a conversation even though I might not necessarily understand all the details and right
I could maybe order things at certain like restaurants and stuff like that
Um, ask for the receipt do basic transactional stuff like that one worst, please. Yeah, you're best stuff like that
Yeah, I could understand numbers things like that
And then big gap in time I went there again. I was going to say this year, but I guess last year
Um, but but like not that long ago last year
And I had lost a bunch of it Again Make sense make sense
But there was still definitely thing like he said v gates
There there are still definitely things where I can like pick up
the general idea of what's happening and it's it's very like mentally stimulating german probably has a word for that like the
The idea schlagen vinzer
Yeah, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. Um, okay, apparently I will not be banned
Um for enjoying french as long as I don't watch anime in french
Okay, seems fair enough. That that does seem that does seem like you have an situation
Yeah, I think that gets a pass. That seems fair enough. That makes sense
Uh, okay. What did you want to talk about next? Uh, the smart test true nas. They're ditching smart tests. Oh, yeah
I don't like it And this is this is they say they're not reliable yet another reason that I backed hexos is that I just
So true nas's position is that you can just use a third party tool for it
And that's cool But that's one of the reasons that true nas which is great and I'm so glad that it underpins hexos
investment disclosure But that's one of the reasons that for general consumers. It's an even prosumers
It's just not something that I can recommend with a straight face because unless you're
You do this for fun Or you know, you already have to do it at work anyway, so you know how it all works
It's just not practical to administer for the average enthusiast even
And if you are one of the people out there who considers yourself an average enthusiast and you totally administer true nas and you love it
Then congratulations. You're not an average enthusiast and that's fine
You're you're like really into it. And that's that's super cool. And that's really great. And here's a gold star for you
But most of even the LTT community is not going to want to dig through some of the arcane
crap that True nas forces you to jump through sometimes to do very very seemingly simple things
Which you know, again, like you said, you might do it for fun. That might be part of the entertainment. Absolutely. It might also not be
Okay, I think we're done topics Dan
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Question for Linus about his hands on with the steam frame. How well did the frame accommodate a large
nose speaking of someone with a big ol schnoz myself pretty good actually
Uh, I definitely need to spend some more time with it. I need to play longer sessions
Where I'm moving my head around like I want to I want to yeah, you had like no time
Yeah, and I look I'm not I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist or whatever
But I think valve did not want me
To make as deep a video as they know that I will and that I did because that might be true. I mean
Yeah, that wouldn't even necessarily be that unreasonable. No
But also then don't tell us everything. This was completely within your control to
Like they didn't have to have a transparent version of it that we could like see into
Like you know, like if you want to control the scope of the coverage
There's a lot of other ways to do it. I'll be so sick if they sold that one other than forcing me to
Other than forcing me to have like not enough time to do a good job. Anyway, I
Not the point. The point is that before I made a definitive statement on that. I would really want to
um Play for longer sessions, especially in games where I'm moving around quite a lot because
Sometimes it's not obvious immediately, but little movements and jiggles can kind of
They can wear away, especially if they like really, you know hit on the the hard parts right here
Or or here's an alternate answer
My opinion is that it's
Which is not It's not well, okay
It could be more valid than anyone else's because I've actually tried it
But I was trying to I was trying to demonstrate a point if you don't know
Then you should just say you don't know you shouldn't make definitive statements. Yeah
Wait, I think I figured out a way to ban Linus
From where
Nice See I was imagining that he had some kind of like low color depth filter and I was going to be banned or something
Oh I thought he was going to replace your side with a frame with you not sitting there
Oh, that'd be pretty good too, which I still thought was happening when he slid in the
I don't have any plates. I moved the camera today a mirror I know a new laptops too. I mean a mirror of luke's side would actually be pretty funny, too
Can I even do that? I bet you could figure that out
That'd be kind of you could be kind of hard to watch though. I know it uncomfortable. I know how I could do that in obs
You throwing shade on remix. No, I'm gonna have to ban you now
I just have never used remix. I don't know anything about it
Next up gearing up for the first plane trip 13 hours with our three month old
Because of a family emergency double
I wonder if you had some memorable difficult things with the used to be newborns
Oh, man. Yeah, we did uh, we did a trip to asia to see von's family when my second was I think one
or like one and change and
I wouldn't wish traveling with an infant or even a toddler honestly on anyone
Not on long-haul flights Like if you're just doing a little one and you can just like zonk them out on the ipad for a couple of hours
That's probably fine, but as soon as you're getting over like
Four hours on the plane they get and see they get cranky
they don't They don't know how to sleep. They don't let you sleep. Like it's just
a recipe for misery, man. I
I'm I'm sorry for whatever you're going through in your family emergency and I'm double sorry now that you are
Having to take a three month old traveling with you and I think that
Like I had someone like profusely apologizing to me for their kid crying on a flight recently because they were like right in front of me
I was like Bro
Why do you think I brought these you're good I get it it's part of the experience you just have to
You don't want to be here either. I know you don't want to be here 10 times as much as I don't want you here
so like You know if I don't want to deal with that
It used to bother me a bunch and then eventually I just accepted we're all cattle in a tube
dealing with their own problems and you just gotta you gotta
Just own the confines of your little seat area that you have make it the best experience you can given all the variables around you
And get through to the other end. That's really not that deep Do they just like not want to pay the check bag fee or what?
You know All right, next up a little crate
Cats or the parrots or whatever um, all right, let's see
Is it is it is a natural monopoly in a high barrier of entry industry like a bad thing in the case of asml
It seems more of a reward for technological innovation which incentivizes innovation
So when luke and I say monopoly bad competition good
Our perspective is as consumer aligned
representatives from the media
Does that kind of make sense and in general? I think that we have benefited more in our lives from competition than from
um successful
Companies monopolizing their industries
um I would also say that even if that disproportionate or maybe even not even disproportionate
Even if that high reward could incentivize others to try to compete
during that time of One ring ruling them all and others attempting but failing to compete
Is a bad time for consumers
That just didn't need to exist if there was always competition
the whole way through so Yes, I can see your argument that it is good to have a really big reward for
Really big investment and ingenuity and perseverance
But from a consumer standpoint, that is not the ideal
situation we would rather have More than one competitor in any given space
Yeah
That's it. What was the what was the core question?
um Can you not see the merit in a in a in a monopoly like asml because
The huge reward for winning the entire market should incentivize others to chase that huge reward
That's okay. I think you already answered it. I wasn't fully paying attention, but I mean
That's literally an argument for competition, but anyways
Had a great white shark show up on a dive two weeks ago
Video is amazing. Are you all keeping up with your diving and what animals or locations are still on the bucket list?
I have not Used it like practically at all. I think the last time I went was diving with denis
On mexico work occasion. Oh Whoa That was i was going to say i'm pretty sure i'm more up to date than you
I might be further asserted than you at this point
I think i'm only open water. Okay. Yeah
Yeah, I honestly don't know if I really care about that because even with open water
You can do a wreck dive as long as your dive master is asserted to guide open water divers on a wreck dive
You can do a deep dive even if the
As long as they're asserted to take you on it like I don't I could be wrong about this. Do not take this as a quote
I think there are still slightly different
Uh Limitations I guess oh and actually now that I think about it when we did that we were taking our advanced open water
So maybe that was the context of it. We Yvonne and I like passed our advanced open water
But we were like you didn't teach us anything
Oh, we just went on a bunch. We did it in mexico So we did our our open water here in vancouver and then we did our advanced open water in mexico
And they just like took us on a bunch of advanced dives We were like we're supposed to know all this like underwater navigation stuff like you didn't show us any of this
We just followed you around and they were like don't worry about that. I'm like no, I am worried about that
I don't want a certificate a certificate that I didn't earn I was concerned about this but did my advanced open water in greece
And uh, it was actually awesome. The dude was like pretty hardcore about like you're gonna do this, right?
Um, when we were doing the knot tying stuff. He had me do it, uh, blind
That's cool because he was like you might get you might not have a mask on yeah
There might be a problem. You might still have to tie that knot. So you need to be able to do it with your eyes
You might be on a night dive You might be really deep
So there might be a variety of variables. You need to be able to do it with your eyes closed and he also made me do underwater nav
um With no references other than kicks
Oh Interesting. I had to track. So there was one like pair of yeezys
Uh
Basically I had to be able to get back He we'd like swim up to a certain point and then I had to be able to go in like
Uh, a square and basically any direction and end up back where I started
Oh, that's cool And I wasn't allowed to have like a little navigation computer or whatever. I had to do it all just with kicks
Um, and it was not he purposely brought us to unclear water, right? And was there a current too?
Uh, I think we did that at one point. Yeah
um And he I don't remember the the deal behind it
But he taught me how to like try to do that a little bit better and he was like, you know
It's not going to be perfect, but if you're trying to get back to a boat
You can kind of use this information to help you get back to a boat
Which but yeah, he was awesome actually
Yeah Hi all
You've taught a lot of people some have started their own businesses with confidence
What do you try to do as a mentor and boss to help people grow? What was your favorite teachable moment?
Oh, man, this is a heavy question. I mean, I don't you might not be able to say I don't think that I'm
Uh, I'm a business mentor necessarily. I'm I'm just
I'm fumbling my way through this School of hard knocks
I didn't go to business school. I um
I don't know man. And a lot of the stuff that we do is not best practice
I mean, that's gonna be true for every business. Sure. I laugh, but that is true for every business
I just I just mean we do not like optimize
a lot of the time We need to do a bit more optimizing
We do need to do a bit more optimizing. I mean, we do need to be doing some some optimization
I mean, look, I I wrote how does LMG spend money this week? Um
And It definitely
Was that your feeling for you? Like did you learn things in that process 100%?
It hardcore flagged for me things that are going to need to be optimized. Um
Actually, uh here, let me see there was, um
Chewie put together some
Why can I never find people when I'm looking for them there it is
Yeah, Chewie put together some stuff like basically
Uh, we've made a lot of decisions as we've been rapidly growing that like made sense in isolation
Yeah, um, but now that we're not no longer do rapidly growing
Do not necessarily make sense anymore. Um, we've accumulated a lot of process debt
um We've accumulated a lot of sort of band-aid
solutions that Again made sense at the time, but probably don't make sense now. Um
Lots of those we Something that I don't really talk about in detail in the how does LMG spend money because it's meant to be sort of a snapshot of a
particular moment in time rather than a look at trends is that
As we've expanded our payroll and we'll talk about this part in more detail in the uh
In the video, but as we've as we've looked at
improving our compensation overall We have
scaled comp In a way that is not
In line with our revenue scaling And that's been going on for a fairly extended period of time now like on the order of years
Um View counts have been getting better
You know, we've been we're we're kind of we're back to a more sustainable
Sort of overall viewership, but with that said the youtube game is getting more cutthroat
You can upload it used to be that if you uploaded a banger video
You might get two million views on it and if you uploaded a total downer video, you might get one million views
Now your banger video might hit three million
Four million, but your downer video might get 400 000. So you don't have that same right predictable
Yeah, a little bit more floor. It's down in the basement now
And that's that's harder to that's harder to sell to sponsors. That's harder to
Capitalize on for yourself like when we're promoting a big deal on lttstore.com or something like that
And the video that we have that goes up promoting it like we can see the difference in performance when
It's a half a million view video versus if it's like a two three million view banger, right?
This was a fun one capital expenditures They get the most attention right like when we buy a fire truck
Or we buy a big led wall or we buy like uh, uh, a huge
Sound chamber or a thermal chamber. Yeah, or a three-stage chiller. Yeah fugger or whatever
Capital expenditures are under one percent of our spend
under one So, you know, that's a weird bucket to define though. I guess almost everything's going to be a weird bucket
Well, yeah, it's in how you define it. So we define A lot of what some companies might call cap X
Would be we have under sort of an umbrella that we call overhead
Okay, and so so for us we defined our capital expenditures as
Sort of outlier purchases particularly for content or for or for product testing
So, you know looking at it like Those are all videos that performed well or series of videos that
Will will perform well over time, right? Um, and it's just it's a lot of little things that you only really notice
When you write it down and when you like graph it
And start to really look at it and go like okay now hold on a second like
Does this make sense for how much it contributes to the business?
Up or down in any case. So
It's the kind of thing that when you're just wait. Yeah, when you're when you're building the plane as you're flying it
You don't really look at it that closely, but we've had
um A couple years now of lower
Production targets like I don't know if people have like noticed this
But I think they have I think they just stopped commenting on it because it was so long We used to have like a hundred ish people. We are now up to like 120 people
and um, we used to do six LTT's a week plus wanshow plus two tech quickies
Plus three tech links plus two game links plus two to four short circuits plus
um Shoot there's one i'm missing. I don't think channel super. Oh, yeah. No Channel Super Fun did overlap with that schedule for a while
Plus a Channel Super Fun Shoot i'm sure i'm missing something
What am I missing? Oh, yeah, plus Mac Address whenever that got uploaded
um And our head count Has not appreciably changed
In this time that we've been doing anywhere from Realistically about three and a half LTT's a week is what we've been averaging
We completely hiatus to Techquickie Completely hiatus GameLinked completely hiatus to Mac Address
Um, did I already say Techquickie? I think I already said Techquickie sure. Um
And people Feel very like overworked and I don't think that they're necessarily
Just like lying about that So that then leans back to what we were kind of previously talking about of like what are we doing? Yeah
Process overhead. Where's where's the loss? What are we spending our time on this engine has a lot of
energy waste In in potentially variety of areas
So I think that's um, I think that's something that we're going to be reflecting on
Heavily over the next little while. Yeah
Anyway, you guys can expect that video probably a little bit after ceas. I think elijah. I saw him turning through the guidance for it
um That's kind of that's kind of getting to be a bit of a like
Superpower of his like he did the guidance for the the RAM crisis video that we uploaded earlier this week
I thought he just uh him and uh, who was who was the editor for that guidance makes sense in my brain
um Hold on. I'm trying to remember. I think it might have been kendrick
I'm gonna double check though because I don't want to give credit to the wrong people
So this video a really cool video Special thanks to the ecc squad seriously though. Shout out the ecc squad. You guys rock
Uh, hold on. Here's the regular credits
Where's my editor? Yeah, Kendrick. Kendrick was the editor. Um, so yeah between him and um,
And andrew and Kendrick. I thought they just did a really good job of maintaining really cohesive
Visuals throughout it that made it really engaging. I thought they yeah, just an outstanding job
I technically I don't know this because I am actually, you know, not the one who determines once and for all if a video is good
um You guys get to decide that I haven't actually looked at the retention for it
But to me it felt like a very
Pleasant short watch relative to its runtime and that's usually a pretty solid indicator
I've been doing this for a while and I usually
Have a decent sense but I don't always get it right though, right?
Not even not not at all could not claim that
I could try to claim that but then I'd be a big liar. Yeah retention is really strong. It's like well above average. Nice. Yeah
Yeah, so good job guys
Hey lld got the wife interested in the tech house series
What ideas do you have for a spouse approved slash hidden tech going to be following and upgrading along the way?
Thanks for the amazing content. I mean a big one is um
I think we're going to be getting a lot better at
wiring and cable management because I'm a big fan of
Eliminating batteries and wireless technology from my life
And I'd like to find ways to do things as wired as possible while maintaining really strong
spouse approval factor So this is a bit of a derail
But part of the my place will be kind of fresh plan
Is that I want to have some self-hosted iot things going on and some other stuff happening
Uh for once and one of the problems that I've ran into that
You know, I'm probably gonna try to solve it before the tech house. I guess but where our computers are going to be now
There's a cat 5e through the wall That cable in the wall. I still haven't done the testing because again, I've been focused on
Other grander stuff, but it could be yeah that too. It could be
um The the short cable going from router to patch instead of the cable through the wall
But I think it's a cable through the wall Uh that cable might be messed up
The second a significant load happens my computer like it's blinking Ethernet cable and I lose all networking
Hopefully it's just the termination hopefully
Hopefully but I don't know so I might have to figure out how to gonna learn to fish that cable nice solid
Everything with this place just turns into like oh, here's a new project that I've never had to try to figure out how to do before
And you're finally going to finish it and then you're going to go. You know what?
Maybe it's time to Yeah, I've been
I've been uh rather aware of that
Yeah, no comment. That's uh, that's your thing to figure out in terms of your timing. Yeah, but uh, yeah cool
Good luck with that Yeah, that's the both ends. You can just pull a new. Yeah, I know
My problem is how it fishes through depends on if it's like stapled to the studs and stuff too. I don't know that
um, and it's it's Very far from reasonable angles and stuff and seeing how this place was put together
It'll either be just draped there and easy to do because no one cared to do it properly or it'll be like
Oh, I don't know 17 staples in one spot for no apparent reason. Um, so we'll see. Oh, here's a quick one
Uh, the pebble round two Was apparently just announced
That looks good. Yeah, it looks actually pretty
Sick. Wow. I get it though. That's very funny
Round two. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right
That's pretty good. All right. That's all As a former kiyoksia employee
I was amazed to see the fab tour you got Surprising they let you see more than I could working there
What's your take on how the audience liked it and what's next hopefully more is next I love doing that kind of thing
And yeah, I was I was very impressed and pleased with the amount of access that we were able to get
Uh, it was a battle to get as much access as we did. I can tell you that
um, we had a meeting with
As many as I think it was like 20 people in the room and another 20 on the call
um, sort of talking through the plan for the next day after our first day of shooting and like
To be to be clear. I don't mean this in like a disrespectful way or like a an antagonistic way
These sorts of things are always kind of a battle
Yeah, because these are closely guarded corporate secrets that have never been
Talked about or seen before like like to your point you could work there and not see things that we saw
And so I understand why they're a little cagey about
Us walking around in there with like people aren't allowed to like bring their phone in
And because they might snap a picture here in there and we're walking around with a full kit, right?
Um and
It was incredible and I'd love to do more of it if there's other companies that you know want to
Want to chop through all the red tape that's involved in getting us that kind of access so that we can
Bring people along for the ride and help them really appreciate
What it is that you guys are doing over there then we're we're super down. I love it
Oh, I haven't seen it yet, but apparently veritasium did a really cool video this week on asml's um
Incredible this I've not seen it. Oh good. That's cool. What is it? Does he like go there? Yeah
Oh, that's it and they go into some really technical details and it's just awesome. He's a phenomenal job
Uh, last one I've got for you today. Hey luke heard that getting tips from wendell on
Building an llm server. Would there be a chance to follow along with your home lab journey?
I don't know. Maybe I I'm starting to question its feasibility
Based on GPU pricing I've got a couple you can borrow if you want. Yeah, we'll see. I definitely I so I've got a variety of goals
um But yeah, we'll we'll see how this stuff
gets Sorted out over time. There's like um
I've been preaching local llm for a long time So I really want to actually do it because I don't want to be like telling people that they should look into it and not
Look into it myself. That seems lame. I don't know
No, where you're coming where you're getting at with this. You have a variety of what and that has to do with the local
AI server Gulls
Gulls goals goals. I know. I'm just playing these you said goals
Okay Um, there's only got one sinus leave alone. Yeah, I really
Um, sorry, but yeah, I've been having a bunch of fun watching. Yeah, jeff geerling and wendell and other people's stuff
I've wanted to do homelabby things for a long time
um So this is going to be my my dive into that both on the networking and the server side of things
I want to do In a lot of cases self-developed in some cases just self-hosted iot things
I want to do some self-hosted services. I want to have my own
Um home video distribution Um instead of just borrowing others
Um, I there's a lot of different goals. I'm easy
You'd be crazy not to buy it
But uh, I mean my family does like this holiday valheim server
We've this is the second year in a row that we've done it. Um
But it's like the the thing the solution that we've had is like kind of unstable and lags a lot and
There's issues with it. So like if I could just host that myself. Yeah, that would be sweet
Like there's just a lot of things where I'm like, this is honestly very overdue
um, so I'm trying to start figuring it out but
Going from zero to the point that I want to be at is like a lot
So I'm trying to research and learn things and figure out how I want to step into this realm
Old tom asks how often do you think of the roman empire?
These days for reasons that I don't really feel like I need to get into
Kind of a lot
We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel
Bye
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