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Linus Tech Tips Live Show Archive - December 7, 2012

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0:01 hey you guys can you guys tell me how the audio is is the audio working fine

0:05 everybody gotta make sure

0:10 yeah that seems like a good idea right about now were you even streaming

0:14 no no no that's just me

0:18 uh i don't know where it's working it shows zero viewers oh no it's working it

0:22 takes a while it's like the youtube viewer where no one's used oh here we go

0:26 yeah yeah it just takes a little bit so i don't know where i copied that too

0:29 let's go ahead and move this here hold on guys i'm just trying to find the

0:33 uh the right file for

0:36 okay guys we have yep there we go that's the one i copied the wrong one before so

0:41 let's go ahead and paste that there and we're back yay

0:46 and yes slick shaved he doesn't look like a homeless person anymore

0:51 it's amazing that was disgusting man

0:55 it's just terrible it it definitely decreased your sex

0:59 appeal by at least 18 notches

1:03 i mean did you notice that no one on the live streams was even saying you were

1:06 hot anymore

1:10 i mean that should be all you need to know

1:14 okay hold on let me just make sure the focus is right so that we're not totally out of focus tonight are the scenes

1:19 working that looks about right right everyone says that's good is that good

1:23 oh no i'm done i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding no more technical

1:27 difficulties tonight we're all done with that all done with that

1:31 yeah all done with that how's that how's that should be pretty good

1:34 that's all right we still look pretty washed out i think but you look devilishly handsome but there's nothing

1:38 i can do about the lighting right now it's done

1:41 and i'm like super the white okay fine there's something i will do about the

1:45 landing because it's me but if it's a problem with you then i think you'll just have to live with it

1:50 yeah there we go all right so

1:53 welcome to the live stream you guys i'm at linustech on twitter he's at

1:57 somethingslickpc on twitter so you guys uh do feel free to

2:02 someone's asking us to remove all the moderators from your twitch chat and

2:06 reassign mods based on a screening process i'm tired of 12 year old mods

2:10 you know what that's probably not a bad idea um what do you think first order of

2:14 business once we get the forum up and running is get sort of forum contributors as

2:19 twitch mods as well as uh as being four mods because honestly i haven't even

2:23 been paying that close attention to what they've been doing have you i no no i

2:28 have no i have no idea no idea whatsoever i do have something really

2:31 cool so just before before we actually before we actually get started with

2:35 anything this is something that i've been incredibly excited about if you

2:40 guys follow me on twitter then you'll ow

2:44 i'm breaking everything if you guys follow me on twitter then you'll already

2:47 know about this but check this out this is a Thunderbolt enclosure

2:51 see there's Thunderbolt interface at the back there you guys can't really see it it's not in focus it's okay don't worry

2:55 about it there's three pci express slots in there so this is the magma 3t which

3:01 is a pci express Thunderbolt expansion box that i was hoping i could use to run

3:08 external graphics on a notebook or on oh here hold on yeah it's okay i got it

3:13 that's just a displayport cable i've been i've been trying things and trying

3:17 other things seeing if i can get a graphics card going with it so it's been suggested to

3:22 me that perhaps the

3:25 sort of camera should be not pointed at the back of that monitor there we go just move over a bit um

3:30 that if i try certain video cards or other video cards uh quadro 4000 was the

3:35 one where i was eventually told that i should uh i should be able to get it

3:40 working drivers in os 10 and there should be no

3:44 issues but i tried it obviously i don't have os 10

3:47 so i what

3:51 echo oh yeah the small echo was my headphones that i was using to make sure that the

3:55 sound was actually working this time because i don't actually have

3:59 speakers on this computer that i used to stream

4:04 because if i had speakers playing back everything then

4:08 you'd get an echo it works yay so why did i not notice the audio issue because

4:12 i didn't notice the audio issue because i have no idea i guess the real question

4:16 is why don't i ever notice the audio issue what's your theory

4:21 well the like incredible amount of times that you've left a stream open is kind of bad a

4:25 stream a stream in the background your own stream oh my own stream yeah

4:30 but but like that one i'm there because i'm trying to open the

4:33 twitch chat and then while i'm going there to open the twitch chat the

4:37 stream's not on so it doesn't occur to me and again because i don't have

4:41 any audio speakers on it like i don't i don't really

4:44 maybe the trick is getting like some closed headphones and then using those

4:48 to something or something we could have just something set up at the beginning

4:53 of any stream yeah like we could oh we could document

4:56 processes check this out check this out i created a video publication guide

5:00 here you can read through and you can actually do all those things now slick's

5:04 just as bad as me just so you guys know most of our editing mistakes are

5:07 actually made by him not by me and see look at no this has good stuff in it so

5:12 we're not gonna read it now or on a live stream i'll read it later

5:16 see this is the this is the kind of attitude i have to deal with

5:20 people who are supposed to be like helping me bring you guys the best tech

5:23 content on the interwebs and he's all like yeah i'll read it later but you

5:27 can't just ignore the current goal which is producing a live

5:31 stream which we're not really doing right now i'm producing a live stream

5:36 at the start it wasn't a very good one mind you

5:40 um so yeah i mean honestly i'm sorry guys i'm sorry for all the audio issues

5:44 uh right now part of the problem is that i'm either using the shotgun mic on

5:50 the one on the xa10 or i'm using the lapel mic on the xa10

5:55 it actually bewilders me how many people tell me to use a lapel mic in videos

6:00 where i am clearly wearing a lapel mic

6:03 have you seen that before yeah like and like and it wasn't even subtle

6:07 like i'm wearing like not a black t-shirt and it's like clipped in the

6:11 middle of a t-shirt and people are like what is you should really invest in a good lap i have a 700 lapel mic

6:17 the problem is that it's wireless and particularly in the old tech tips room a

6:22 little bit in the new tech tips room and not pretty much at all in this room

6:26 um there's some random interference and i've tried changing channels um but

6:32 every once in a while like i i've started putting some bloopers into some

6:35 of the videos that i've been editing because slick apparently can't be asked

6:39 to edit videos these days um and you see some of the horrible like

6:46 like noises that we get and they'll just destroy shots

6:49 like we've had to stop shooting because of it

6:52 so many times yeah it's ridiculous so the ones that you guys hear are a not as

6:57 bad as what we're usually dealing with and b i've also gone in in the video

7:02 editing process and i've taken that like frame or two frames and dialed the

7:06 volume down to like one-tenth so that

7:10 they're a lot less obnoxious and like you're

7:13 like yeah piercing that's the word i was

7:17 looking for um so yes i'm sorry for the audio issues

7:22 we're gonna figure out how to resolve it at some point part of the problem is

7:25 edsel's figuring out all of his finals right now and we don't have um we don't

7:30 have any help whatsoever and uh yeah things are things are bad

7:35 things are just sort of generally bad so

7:39 greg what's our first discussion

7:43 uh let me topic sorry well Intel

7:47 yeah okay well do we want to start that one before the youtubers

7:51 sort of tune in let me just see if we uh let me see if the announcement video is

7:54 live because i'm sure a lot of them saw the original announcement video and they

7:58 were like um yeah i guess

8:05 are we talking about ac rotors or i guess

8:08 oh that's not a bad one yeah yeah you know what let's give them a

8:12 couple minutes because i think the first comment on that is a minute ago

8:16 and so obviously you know did you guys know that every person who posts first

8:19 on one of my videos i personally email them and i send them a video card

8:26 that's why people keep doing it i can't think of another reason

8:30 what about the time you commented first well i sent myself you sent yourself a

8:34 video i don't know you got your 590. yeah i find a video card once in a while

8:37 and because i'm me i can game the system i can be like when's the really baller

8:42 video card coming and then i'll just be like oh it's night first nice you don't

8:46 even have to like make a fake account you just comb it first on your own account yeah on your own video and get

8:51 this i save on the shipping too right because then it's free yeah these

8:54 people live all over the place i mean i can just like this is how i ship myself

8:58 a video card i'm just like hey Linus you want a video card i'm like yeah why yes

9:02 okay it's okay it's only a uh what is this i

9:06 don't even know it's a 650 power edition it's okay all is well

9:12 don't worry about it it would be even better if you went to

9:15 the post office and then shipped it to yourself so you could like get a present

9:18 for the door i do love receiving parcels that is one

9:22 of the most satisfying things it's actually so awesome

9:26 remember you're you're okay this looks younger than me but i mean do you remember

9:30 getting letters no well okay i get letters from like my

9:35 grandma but i don't remember getting like a i don't just get letters from

9:39 friends well like it wasn't often but like when when you're like 10 and like

9:43 even when i got like a bank statement or something yeah like just when your

9:46 parents are like going through the mail and they're like oh this is for you yeah

9:50 yeah it's exciting yeah it's way better than email i hate email now

9:54 they just get like 30 a day email should just die in a fire

9:58 speaking of email that should die in a fire okay

10:05 do you know anyone who uses their isp's

10:09 email account like do you know anyone who actually

10:13 like my aunt for example not super tech savvy it's her name at shaw.ca

10:20 and i'm just like now what are you gonna do

10:24 i know someone who's super tech savvy that uses it because i was thinking

10:28 about this today like i don't know if you guys know this but your google

10:31 account is tied permanently to your youtube account

10:35 unless you have a much older account and you get grandfathered in in fact i

10:39 changed the youtube or the google account associated with ncix tech tips

10:44 at one point and i changed the one associated with minus tech tips at one

10:47 point because i was trying to get it integrated with adsense and something

10:51 something something but now i think they're locked in and the Techquickie

10:55 channel that i recently acquired i had to acquire the gmail account as well

11:01 and uh so so that got me thinking because i was thinking about this and i

11:04 was like um i actually recently bought a domain and i've set up an email for

11:09 myself under that domain more about that later by the way fascinating email i

11:13 just got from google um yeah like awesome so so i set that up

11:17 and i was like what if i forget to pay for this domain like i'll be stuck and

11:20 i'm like horrible it's not as bad as those guys are using their internet

11:25 service for fire i mean what if you actually used aol for

11:29 dial up back in the day or like my family we used sprint

11:34 my family actually used the email address sea lion one at sprint dot ca

11:40 and i'm like i mean at the time i didn't know that that was such a terrible idea but

11:45 i mean what does it say about you

11:48 i've never used an isp z motorist not once even when i was a kid i mean is

11:53 there my family didn't do this uh i bet they did i bet you

11:58 i bet your parents shared it yes they did way back you know what here's our

12:02 discussion topic and i'd love to take this to twitter you guys email best

12:05 practices things that just irk you like why is it that old people don't

12:10 understand that you don't forward chain chain letters well there's that uh oh

12:15 what is his name he makes comics

12:18 oh my goodness the oatmeal the oatmeal yes the oatmeal is amazing and i

12:23 go to the oatmeal.com right now yeah i promise it is not bikini clad women

12:27 fighting an oatmeal although that would be fine too

12:33 i mean it's the internet there's probably there's probably a sight for it

12:38 but um but he goes and talks about how like there's there's like pretty much

12:42 whatever email you have and you're in like the crap list and then there's the

12:46 people that have gmail and then there's the people that have their own domain

12:49 right okay so i i don't think i've seen that one it's pretty good i i do love

12:54 him although i still have a hotmail account right

12:58 but there's a legitimate reason for that i used msn a lot yeah back in the day

13:02 yeah um i like it's tied into like forum accounts

13:08 that are like eight years old yeah for really legacy stuff but usually you can

13:11 change the email that's attached to it you can but it's like just too much work

13:15 what am i gonna do i'm gonna go in and like change i moved everything to my new

13:18 gmail but i have a hotmail and i have a hotmail.com uk and i have a outlook i

13:23 have a hotmail.ca i have Linus sebastian hotmail.ca fca as well basically uh so

13:28 you're just domain squatting basically like yeah yeah i want my naming convention okay so

13:32 email best practices things that things that hurt you old people who don't

13:35 understand chain letters chain leaders in general health advice oh

13:40 like you know what i got from my aunt once

13:44 i'm sorry i know my aunt comes up a lot but she's probably one of the least tech

13:47 savvy people i know she actually sent me i swear i swear to

13:51 god this email had a 25 megabyte attachment it was a powerpoint

13:56 presentation of like pictures of adorable animals and

13:59 i'm just like this is the least

14:03 efficient possible distribution medium for this

14:07 why are you emailing this to me and she was just like i hope it made you and the

14:11 worst part is she'll actually call me like and like ask me if i read these

14:15 emails i'm just like no i did not read that email

14:21 because it's horrible my grandpa sends out a lot of chain

14:24 mails but then he doesn't send them to like my brother my dad or myself they'll

14:29 send them to my mom and then my mom will like filter through them and then just

14:32 pass forward the okay ones and that's actually okay but that's having like a

14:37 human filter on part of it right and human filter is not a bad thing i mean i

14:41 don't mind being someone's human filter like again my aunt oh man

14:46 i have a feeling i'm gonna be picking on her a lot here but from time to

14:49 time she'll get one of those ones that's like virus alert holy crap your entire

14:54 internet could be downloaded into the the hard drive of the mainframe and you

14:58 need to back up your data now and like that kind of stuff she'll forward it to

15:02 me she'll be like is this legit and invariably i'm like no and stop

15:06 using the internet please um

15:10 she figured out text messaging on her own at one point anyway let's let's go

15:13 to let's go to twitter and let's have a look at what you guys think are some

15:18 pretty irritating email best practices ah that's a good one okay yes will

15:23 miracle here squeeze over so we can both share the spotlight i don't think i'm

15:28 going to make um my ARM

15:31 yeah why are you so wide why are you so aware well it's because i have to move

15:34 closer to the camera the more i move over here but i'm obviously not okay

15:37 like that just well okay whatever just i don't think it's a big deal okay i'll do

15:42 q a or i'll do i'll do this okay so will says i hate when people have goofy email

15:47 addresses that they give up during a job email interview as someone who knows the

15:51 hr manager at ncis let me tell you if your email address on your resume is

15:57 like cutiepie69 at hotmail.com or something

16:00 you are not getting a job like call it discrimination call it whatever you want

16:05 you're they're not going to email you they're not going to type that into a

16:08 browser and send an email to that address not going to happen great one

16:12 will uh isaac says five pages with absolutely

16:16 no punctuation you know what that goes beyond email etiquette that is

16:20 internet etiquette i actually okay

16:23 that's etiquette no punctuation that's just life that's just rude yeah that's

16:28 just like rude and horrible and speaking of things that are rude and horrible

16:32 yay i got my remote control now um i mean i try not to tweet like

16:38 phenomenally stupid pms that people send me but did you did you get the one i

16:41 tweeted the other day oh it was awesome it was like there was

16:45 no punctuation it was about this long and the guy basically bought some core 2

16:50 duo or something and he was asking me if i could do an overclocking guide and

16:54 like a tutorial for like how to use like this motherboard and the CPU i'm just

16:58 like and then he wanted me to send email him the video once i was done making it and

17:03 i was just like oh dude okay for one thing subscribe i'm not emailing you

17:08 when i'm finished making a video like what am i going to do email 230 000

17:12 people every time i make a video i've never made videos

17:16 and then number two there was no punctuation and like it's like this old

17:20 stuff and i'm just like oh come on like come on man what am i what am i

17:24 supposed to do to help you with this to help you to on twitter sometimes i can

17:28 excuse little things like punctuation if you're hitting your character count if

17:32 like you need that one character where the period could be or the comma like

17:36 yes but if you're if it's a short one there are some that are still

17:39 inexcusable i will never accept da as a

17:42 shortened form of the yeah i agree no no i i actually ignore those tweets i won't

17:47 read them i'd rather squeeze words together and just capitalize the second

17:51 word yeah like i don't mind you for you i don't mind like uh you know bc for

17:56 because like there's there's ones that it's just like that's okay

17:59 but don't pretend to be a thug on the internet

18:02 because you aren't you're not a thug

18:06 and if you're a thug then please don't come for me

18:10 but i'd slick to defend me he's very large he played football once

18:15 for like eight years that's a long time to play football you

18:20 must have gotten really tired

18:23 um okay there's some general q a there i

18:26 hate when people get long emails free ah yes

18:29 we're getting really good ones tonight dylan says i hate when people receive a

18:34 page long email from you and they respond with okay or lol

18:39 that's rude and that you know what actually email i don't run into that as

18:42 much but i am like when you're having a long conversation with like your

18:46 girlfriend or your boyfriend or something is a perfect example where you

18:49 can tell like you'll be like having a conversation and then all of a sudden

18:54 you send them like this long drawn out thing and they're like lol and you're like you're watching a video on your

18:58 computer right now and they're like yeah one thing um i was

19:02 called out for that at one point in time um for just saying k way too much

19:07 even though like and uh one thing i did to actually make

19:11 it better was just i say right that's not better but a lot of people

19:15 don't pull that with me i do do you

19:20 it just you automatically perceive it's longer so you automatically is that why

19:23 you do kk instead of k kkk yeah you know what that one i noticed

19:28 of course that one's not really trying but like so that means it wasn't even worth

19:32 the effort to type five characters

19:35 because you were only willing to go for two of the same well no i say right when

19:39 i'm typing on a keyboard if i'm typing on my phone i say kk

19:43 because i usually type on my phone with one hand

19:47 is it twice today yeah twice twice today you've been fired

19:52 no that's a good one oh this is a great topic i love this

19:55 um my parents use isp i told them to stop

20:01 yeah i know i play way too many

20:04 why do we have so many emails combine them all into one you know what that's

20:07 actually something i'm guilty of i do that though kind of because okay i have

20:11 like a huge list of emails but they all port towards one my gmail and then

20:15 whenever i respond i respond as that email and everything so it's i use one

20:19 email so i don't do that because i don't know how and i could figure it out if i

20:23 took like 10 minutes but i just have it it takes no time i know i know i know so

20:28 so to be perfectly honest like for years now i've just been using my ncix email

20:32 as my primary email for everything oh but then which is which is same problem

20:36 which is which is way worse than an isp-based one

20:40 like way worse because with an isp at

20:43 least you could be like oh yeah i'm gonna cancel my service in six months and they'll you know figure everything

20:48 out or is it like if it's a job they can just turn off your

20:53 wow not only that but because ncix uses

20:57 google apps i have like google docs that have like

21:01 all my game cd keys and stuff that are tied to my hands

21:04 way to be a hypocrite i know no no i fixed it all recently

21:09 but i was doing that for the longest time and so people wouldn't know where

21:12 to email me because my personal email address is with my personal email

21:16 address but i never check it like by the time i cleaned it up like a few months

21:20 ago i had something like 7 000 unread emails

21:23 most of them were like newsletters from motorcycle gear shops and stuff like

21:27 nothing relevant and then i have ones that i've just opened and then used once

21:31 and then never looked at again and then i've got all of the actually no i legit

21:35 need a lot of email accounts because i have all of my gmail accounts that are

21:38 tied to youtube accounts right so how many people does that apply i have like

21:41 eight of them but like

21:45 not that many people have that many youtube accounts right

21:49 so uh so yeah that's that's a really good one people have too many email

21:52 accounts and you never know how to reach them all right i guess i'm screwed as mine as

21:57 i play way too many video games people who fanboy with things because their product is mainstream and his picture is

22:01 a character from league of legends and you're saying i don't think league

22:05 of legends is mainstream it's the most played game in history that doesn't make

22:09 it mainstream necessarily actually no no see this is no this is a good topic i

22:14 would if you need a jacket it's right there i'm fine i would make the argument

22:17 that mainstream is something like internet explorer

22:22 whereas internet explorer actually is not the number one in terms of market

22:25 share okay so i would say that again but the

22:29 default mobile if someone's gonna play at moba they're gonna okay

22:32 nhl 2012 is mainstream

22:36 but league of legends i would say is more of like a hardcore style game that

22:39 lots of people play okay but if you if you play pc games

22:45 because you're basically pulling out just console games right now okay hold on let me find a pc game for you

22:50 um

23:05 is nearly as mainstream as legal agents

23:08 okay hold on let me think of a mainstream piece of crap this is terrible i mean that's the state of pc

23:12 gaming you can't even come up with a mainstream pc game if you try

23:16 that's like just a pc game yeah

23:20 wow okay you're fine good thank you

23:24 completely different genre it doesn't matter we're talking we're talking yeah

23:28 but you can have a genre of movie that's like you can have like like you

23:32 can have an obscure action movie that lots of people watched like i would

23:36 argue blade runner is relatively is not mainstream even though lots of people

23:41 watch but pretty much everyone's heard of it so does that make it mainstream

23:44 no not necessarily i would say because okay here example of a mainstream movie

23:49 would be some something like dumb and dumber that is a mainstream movie so

23:53 tons of people have watched it so i guess it's like not necessarily but you but you but it's

23:58 like it's everyone's heard of legos it's not like jim carrey in it everyone's heard of league of legends

24:03 i guarantee you my wife hasn't heard of league of legends

24:07 not mainstream but she'll have heard of an nhl game

24:11 well it's freaking nhl game right but that's what she's heard of world of

24:14 warcraft

24:18 i wouldn't be too surprised if she has her legal legends is freaking nude you know

24:21 what we're for doing that

24:26 hey vaughn are you feeding the baby can you come here for a minute

24:31 thanks time you're gonna bring on camera uh she

24:34 doesn't have to go on camera okay just stand at the door if you don't

24:37 want to go on camera it can kind of see the door

24:42 no no it's okay if she doesn't come through the door that it should be fine i'll just stand here

24:46 i hope the audio still picks up okay from here are you scrolling through no no no no no

24:50 no no no no no no no no yeah we were getting good ones those are all the ones about the email thing okay uh here okay

24:55 so we have to settle a dispute okay uh have you heard of the game world of

24:59 warcraft can you talk loud so they can hear you

25:03 yes okay have you heard of the game league of legends yes

25:09 thanks for that why i lost

25:13 it's so ridiculously well known wait what hold on what

25:17 how could you possibly have heard of league of legends

25:22 no she heard slick talk about it that does not count that totally counts no it

25:26 doesn't that totally counts you're a total gamer nerd it doesn't matter so

25:30 the fact that you talk everyone knows a total gamer nerd oh no they don't do

25:34 they do no they don't do

25:37 i'm eating my mangoes okay let's find let's find some more uh oh yes when

25:42 people type every word with a capital letter that's the worst thing ever

25:46 yeah that's just wrong my grandpa does that oh at the beginning of

25:50 he means the beginning of every word yeah my grandpa just caps locks

25:55 absolutely everything no cap's luck is like it feels like he's yelling at me

25:59 that's terrible you know what's another one that irks me when people share emails

26:04 old people oh and facebook's oh my goodness like i don't care that

26:07 you just got married you're i don't care just keep yourself freaking

26:12 facebooks yes i know it's like

26:15 it's like combining email is like it's like the new like getting a joint bank

26:19 account yeah it's like no actually i sent an email to

26:25 like my guy friend part of this couple because that's who i

26:29 want to talk to that's who this email is relevant to that's what email is and

26:33 then i mean think of think of remember email

26:36 electronic mail when was the last time you addressed a letter to two people

26:40 that's anything other than a christmas card that's just a card or like an invitation it's called cc

26:46 oh that one drives me crazy okay i love

26:49 this topic of conversation and hopefully everyone else likes it as much as i do

26:53 but they seem to it's quite possible that they don't so

26:56 you know what you want to check the twitch chat really quick quick and just make sure they don't hate it it's one of

26:59 the uh

27:04 yeah yeah seems like it's all good can you make it go away now

27:08 thank you all right what else we got stuff people

27:12 hate about emails putting stupid email addresses on business cards yes you

27:15 should never that's that's right up there with resume have you seen it

27:18 though i have you get way more business cards than i did yes yeah oh i've seen

27:22 it particularly like uh like at ces there's always like

27:26 some weird guy running around who does like game casting or like um

27:32 you know like some weird media thing where it's like one guy or two guys and

27:37 they think it's like they think it's hip to have like an email address that's

27:40 like you know i don't care about authority at like theirdomain.com or like something

27:45 like that it's like it's a business card it's like professional yeah

27:49 although diesel had a mock-up business card that he created for our client that

27:53 was really cool that was really funny yeah what did what did it say on it i

27:56 don't remember what it all said but it was really good

27:59 it's i think it said on the first date i think it said like sometimes i don't eat people or

28:04 something like that it was it was just ridiculous but it was funny

28:08 and he wasn't being serious he wasn't handing me his business card like he was

28:11 like yeah i think this is funny

28:15 yeah yeah um okay so

28:20 what push pull can okay no we're not talking about that right now i got a new

28:23 email every five minutes p.m with in-law phone rings it's her

28:29 yeah yeah that's a good one

28:33 yeah funny pictures that were posted like a billion years ago

28:40 john paul's with me about his aunt

28:43 okay hey patrick call out shout out to you

28:46 for tuning in on your birthday awesome

28:49 and these aren't candies they're dried mangoes they're absolutely amazing but they're like 13 this is the first time i

28:54 bought them in like two years

28:59 um you know what i don't have any comments on the 8970 or the 89.90 we'll comment

29:04 when the embargo lifts once we've actually got the card in hand and we've

29:07 like tested it oh my goodness uh GeForce experience we

29:13 didn't talk about this uh last week did we have you heard of the GeForce experience

29:17 no oh i've been in like school zone for a

29:20 while uh you know the uh the internal code name for it at NVIDIA was the gf

29:25 experience wait for it

29:33 but anyway the GeForce experience or the gf experience is really cool so what it

29:39 does is it's basically like a driver download that babysits your entire

29:44 computer for you so think of it in terms of like an optional setting so it's not

29:49 the same conversation we had last week about like soldered cpus where it takes

29:53 the choice away it's an optional thing you don't have to install it

29:56 that will configure your system according to what CPU and what GPU you

30:01 have for every game and it will optimize the settings so

30:05 that you don't end up playing at a rubbish frame rate or with crap details

30:10 and 200 FPS because you don't know any better it automatically keeps your

30:14 drivers updated and it just makes all these changes

30:17 completely in the background without you knowing i remember going over to my little brother's house yeah exactly

30:21 that's what i was gonna bring up he has a gtx 275 and he was running some crap

30:26 call of duty game at 1680 by 1050 low

30:29 details because he didn't know any better i turned it all up for him he was

30:32 like whoa this looks way better now and that's what happens i think people

30:38 not configuring games properly is killing pc gaming is one of the things

30:41 that's killing pc gaming disagree or agree i could totally be

30:45 because a lot of people are worried about their FPS so they just crank it to the bottom and let it rip and people who

30:50 don't think the graphics on pc are better than the graphics on a console

30:54 just completely wrong which is completely wrong i mean even cod games

30:57 look better on a pc okay you gotta see i'll show you like after the live stream

31:01 or something some guy posted i'm not gonna necessarily say where but whatever

31:05 um skyrim after 100 mods and you download a hundred mods that

31:10 changed just like little tiny tweaks of how the graphics work

31:14 it's incredible like it's like hard to

31:17 reference that it's the same game just because the details are so freaking

31:20 amazing really and like he's like oh yeah i'm just for xbox right no pc but

31:26 he's got like he's like three i'm just kidding

31:30 he's got like a pretty sick rig and it pushes it pretty hard but it looks

31:34 incredible best looking game i've ever seen after skyrim after 100 mods which

31:39 is like that's a crazy amount of mods but still you can do it and that's the

31:42 other thing too is GeForce experience should be able to predict with a

31:45 reasonable degree of accuracy remember NVIDIA has like some kind of super

31:49 computer thing going on where it's capable of simulating any graphics card

31:54 any configuration do you know about this yeah i've heard of it yeah so

31:58 for those of you who don't know they have like this uber configuration that can just

32:03 emulate any computer ever and that's how they do their validation for graphics

32:07 drivers and for for testing things like GeForce experience to find out they can

32:11 run any game on this on any configuration and then they can just

32:15 create their own internal what makes it look best

32:19 and they actually do they have people hands-on tweaking it as well

32:23 which is really really cool um so they can they can predict with a

32:27 reasonable degree of accuracy how it's going to run and then what i'd love to

32:30 see for something like this in the future because remember out of everyone

32:34 who has more inves invested in the pc as a hardcore gaming platform than NVIDIA

32:38 yeah yeah for sure they don't even have a CPU

32:41 business to fall back on nope they have tegra now

32:45 but unlike AMD they've got gamers i mean they have

32:49 things like tesla but gamers are still what drives that

32:52 development of GeForce graphics cards of GeForce processors so

32:58 you look at them you go so what next generation maybe they figure out oh

33:02 you've got graphics horsepower to spare let's um you know let's

33:06 suggest some mods for you and then all of a sudden you could turn

33:09 this into a platform that not only optimizes your driver setting for a game

33:13 but actually optimizes the pc gaming experience so you don't so you never

33:18 have to deal with ever again something like launching a game

33:22 which then launches at 800 by 600 and you have to go manually like it doesn't

33:26 like properly detect it would be nice too because like not even for we're

33:30 talking about our own use but realistically you and me are probably

33:33 going to want to configure it ourselves i'll probably change it anyway because i yeah

33:38 i have a pretty crap tolerance for frame dips yeah so i won't be looking at

33:42 what's my FPS right now while i'm doing nothing i'll be like did i see it dip

33:46 crank everything back down and that'll be slightly different for me because in

33:50 in single player games i don't actually care quite as much i i want it to look

33:54 amazing still drives me crazy and then in like FPS games or multiplayer games i

33:58 usually drop quite a bit just so i never see a frame rate loss or anything like

34:01 that but then this is going to be awesome for like oh i just built the

34:05 computer for my buddy who wants to start playing

34:09 freaking whatever star citizen with me but is going to start playing everything

34:12 yep um i want to just load this piece of software and just forget about it and

34:16 he's going to be good like that'll be cool and this is the kind of thing that

34:20 really is going to be the future of how guys like NVIDIA and AMD are going to

34:23 differentiate themselves from each other because you look at what AMD's doing right now with never settle where you're

34:27 getting far cry 3 hitman absolution and

34:31 sleeping dogs with a high-end card plus

34:34 20 off the upcoming medal of honor game which is insane like seriously guys

34:40 if you don't have a high-end graphics card go buy a 7950 right now because it

34:44 comes with three games that are worth over a hundred dollars

34:47 in total like you could agree that's a hundred dollars they're both they're both 60 they're

34:51 all three of them no sleeping dogs i think is now 49. yeah the other two were

34:55 59. yeah so like crazy value and i think that the entire internet agrees that far

34:59 cry 3 is just outstanding it's amazing oh my goodness so that alone

35:04 if you're a gamer you should be playing that game right it's so much fun

35:07 yeah i don't know it's really good so so basically yeah go buy a 7950 right

35:12 now but on the other hand you look at what NVIDIA is doing where i think

35:15 they're bundling assassin's creed 3 and borderlands 2 which are both

35:19 legit enough titles um some cards okay yeah some cards and it

35:23 depends on the retailer like ncix i know has some cards that come with both

35:27 um so so they're doing that and then they're driving things like stereo 3d

35:31 which whether you like it or not stereo 3d is not going away i mean the

35:36 form of it might change but it's not going away and they have way

35:39 better support than AMD uh things like GeForce experience things like physx so

35:44 they're pushing like the technology and it'll be interesting to see which one

35:47 works out better in the long run

35:50 um but i don't have a clear answer for that so yeah GeForce experience i haven't

35:55 tried the beta yet and i've heard there are still some issues but

35:58 it's in beta and based on where NVIDIA like NVIDIA doesn't always do everything

36:03 perfect the first time i mean look at how long it's taken phys x to

36:07 have a serious impact on a game like like it does in borderlands 2 or in our

36:11 community well borderlands 2's kind of

36:15 it makes a difference yeah but they're whether you like how they're doing it or not

36:19 but the technology making a difference and then going through and manually

36:23 removing things for certain people okay so that's a whole other debate but the

36:27 i guess okay but something like GeForce experience i don't mind yeah because

36:31 it's not like an AMD card user is going to install GeForce experience which will

36:35 dial down all their settings although

36:40 they'll be hilarious they'll be so hilarious if they just like set all your

36:44 settings to minimum again and every NVIDIA fanboy on the entire

36:50 internet found a way to take every like

36:53 AMD card user's computer and secretly install the g4 experience on it

36:58 so the game just crashes and then like a legit looking error message comes up and

37:03 it's like it looks like you're not running a GeForce graphics card

37:07 and then there's like a link to buy one

37:13 not good not right

37:17 not how it needs to work

37:20 hey this is a really good point from jared i work for our country's largest

37:24 isp and i hate supporting isp mail it's

37:27 useless leave it to the pros and i think the problem with supporting isp mail is

37:32 the people who are using it more than anything else it's like how do

37:36 i integrate this into outlook express and they'll like call you right it's

37:41 like leave me alone

37:44 why are you using outlook express

37:50 my mom used to use outlook express okay i think we're down to uh we're down

37:54 to where we left off so does this have a page up oh it does no way

37:59 so cool oh my goodness look at all these emails this thing has a mouse on it

38:03 emails

38:06 you know what screw you you use that all the time well no i don't i only ever

38:11 used it as like a remote remember i opened the package for this right the

38:15 first day we recorded it on the thing

38:22 and that one's like an air mouse so you just go like this oh okay that stuff

38:25 okay okay uh you know what okay let's do some

38:28 more twitter q a for a little bit and then you get started with twitter q a

38:32 and then i'm going to go find i had a couple other topics i really wanted to

38:35 talk we still have to do the Intel one and Intel oh and ac and the new youtube

38:40 okay no we got lots of topics okay okay don't worry guys lots of topics now you

38:43 do twitter q a for a bit i'm hungry anyway go take my seat

38:48 i'll be back how do you even you guys have to tweet

38:53 me if he says anything rude or disrespectful about me while i'm gone

38:59 you can't read from there no i've really bad eggs

39:02 do you need your glasses i don't have them here i'll make do

39:08 sorry best onboard audio i've ever heard on a

39:11 laptop was probably the MSI ice powers called ice power uh dynaudio

39:17 dynaudio who's got ice power way better i don't know what ice power i don't

39:20 remember who has ice power but uh the MSI dynaudio one is like super legit way

39:25 better than anything else encountered i've never heard beats audio though

39:30 um i've got a friend at school that has one it isn't one of the high-end laptops

39:34 it's one of the more business-oriented laptops and i didn't really notice the

39:37 difference but it has like

39:41 bass on the bottom but like a sub yeah

39:47 but if i'm on my laptop i'm probably listening to headphones anyway so it

39:51 doesn't really help what do you mean it doesn't help

39:54 i'm having a subwoofer on the bottom oh oh okay well no but i mean it would help

39:58 if the audio chipset was better yeah no that's what i'm saying but i didn't

40:02 notice the difference but there's a cat

40:05 look at the camera ah this is not why i haven't actually

40:09 left yet right into the garage okay let's see no i do not think the

40:14 world will end i'm surprised that was actually a

40:18 question can you post skyrim thing video description

40:23 um i don't think i don't think we'll post it on youtube um but if people spam me on twitter so i

40:28 don't forget i will post a link to the guy's

40:32 blog or whatever it is that has the 100 mods because it's pretty epic i'm

40:35 planning that as a project over uh christmas break i want to set up my

40:39 skyrim with a hundred mods and just look at how ridiculously fantastic it is

40:45 um

40:50 getting get an ASUS zoner stx alex at

40:53 chickenwin that card is amazing i have 595's which

40:57 are pretty damn close to five nine eighths

41:00 and um we did some sound card testing and i

41:04 could tell a difference moving up to the zoner stx with most lower end headphones

41:08 i couldn't really tell the difference moving up to that high end of a sound card but

41:12 with something like five nine eights or five nine fives uh you can really tell

41:16 the difference uh when are you going to do promise

41:20 response time uh that response time video will happen

41:24 uh we're just really busy right now i'm in finals i've got

41:28 tons of finals next week um once that's over with we'll probably look into more

41:32 of the that style of content videos that we've

41:35 been talking about for a long time move into a lot of those

41:45 console and pc gamer rant i don't know um

41:50 there's reason for both and like the thing is it's pointless because

41:54 everyone likes their medium more because of x or y reason so there's no really

42:00 point in arguing with that person because they like it for whatever preference it is so just i don't know

42:05 let them enjoy it it's a video game we should all be happy gamers anyways

42:09 but oh

42:13 da da

42:18 downloaded GeForce experience today it actually worked pretty good with my games i can tell a different difference

42:22 that's pretty good to hear um i'm definitely going to look into

42:26 grabbing it and trying it out at least so that i can tell people my opinion on

42:29 it but again i'm going to final scenes so probably after that i'm 100 sure we'll

42:35 do a video on it when it's actually released we might even do a video on it while it's in beta not entirely sure

42:41 um

42:47 not entirely sure what you're talking about kearns knoll

42:51 mind doing a video about Windows 8 and steam shortcuts

42:57 i don't know new youtube later was horrible

43:01 oh my goodness i don't usually like the youtube layout changes um facebook

43:05 changes are usually all right but youtube layout changes i've never really

43:08 liked talking about youtube layout changes how'd you get on a topic without me

43:13 someone asked someone asked yep just because someone asked something now all

43:17 of a sudden we're gonna talk about it what do you think this is some kind of q a session yeah oh it's weird i'm on your

43:22 side it's like it's like now you look so

43:25 small

43:28 okay good

43:32 okay not to get into sort of too much while we look the same

43:36 you're so large not to get into too much detail but like

43:39 have you ever switched sides in the bed

43:42 oh yeah yeah it's weird right

43:46 no when Yvonne was pregnant she couldn't lay on one side or something because of

43:51 like the baby or something like it makes it so it can't breathe or like it's hard

43:54 sometimes like it blocks an artery or something like you have to sleep a certain way

43:58 during certain parts of the pregnancy i'm sorry if this is too much detail for you guys but um

44:03 like we had to switch sides and i was just like

44:07 sitting there in bed and i'm like whoa i don't understand how this works

44:11 okay here's another one have you ever you ever drink from the faucet like just

44:14 turn it on and just drink from it yeah okay pretend this is a faucet go ahead

44:18 drink from it okay try this tonight put your head the other

44:22 way i already know it's gonna be weird oh no

44:27 it's like you know how it's weird when you fold your hands the wrong way it's

44:30 ten times weirder than that because you like you'll be like

44:33 you're like you won't know how to i swear

44:37 go ahead you guys those of you watching the live stream

44:40 maybe after we have the youtube layout changes topic discussion but don't try

44:44 this go find a sink and put your head the wrong way because it's ridiculous

44:49 okay let's how far have you gotten into youtube layout changes i just started

44:54 okay just started youtube layout changes are the most ridiculous thing ever and

44:58 i'm gonna show you why yeah i'm sorry for that you guys uh oh

45:03 right no that's not what to do i understand why this isn't working

45:08 there we go all right so

45:11 number one your name is sending oh i'm not signed in you gotta be signed in for

45:15 it to be as horrible as it is well it's still horrible oh i know i i love how my

45:18 24 inch monitor has all this blank space here which is flipping brilliant

45:24 and uh oh what what account am i going to be able to sign into yeah they

45:27 justified left they just like shove everything lay off into the left uh i

45:32 don't think um i think i have two step on this

45:38 i don't care if they email me here i'm just gonna ignore it you guys just so you know i will not read your email i

45:43 don't even check this email actually going back to our multiple emails thing

45:47 yeah i use this email once for like contest submissions and he doesn't even

45:51 push emails to a different email so you will legitimately not get them yeah

45:55 legit won't get it you know it's actually really cool if

45:59 you want to throw away email address that actually will work like you can register on websites with it and stuff

46:03 um not go to not sharing my dot info it's

46:07 an actual website and you can sign up for email accounts that are

46:11 some random username at not sharing my dot info and their legitimate email

46:16 account so you can use them for like we might have a problem

46:19 oh never mind it's okay because i was thinking maybe that was

46:23 why this wasn't working because i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure

46:27 i'm entering the right password here

46:34 what the heck oh i entered the wrong username

46:39 here

46:44 there we go if you're tuning in now we'll be talking

46:47 about youtube ui very soon yeah very soon as soon as uh

46:52 here let me let me go get that code in the meantime you entertain do a dance or

46:56 something no

46:59 sing no

47:03 twitter one second guys sorry

47:08 i'm drinking both sides depending on where i oh i should probably move

47:13 hello you're back already yeah i'm good yeah i'm good why do you keep taking my chair

47:18 because it's like you're some kind of homeless person and all i have to do is

47:22 move away from my house for like two seconds and you like take it

47:25 imagine people just stole houses that would actually

47:30 that's the smartest thing ever why do we even make youtube videos let's just do

47:33 these houses yeah just flip houses that we do yeah

47:37 sounds legit uh okay

47:41 switch again cause this is weird it feels like i just switched sides in the bed with you

47:45 okay back to uh back to why the youtube is horrible now

47:52 all right sweet there we go let me just

47:55 check on twitch make sure we got our uh on x all right so what's horrible about

48:00 this number of things so now that i'm signed in you can see there's actually more blank space here which is amazing

48:05 i love the what to watch i actually went through this earlier today so it's got

48:09 my other channel it's got something from logan which is fine i got no problem

48:13 with that has some old video from logan which is like this is a couple months

48:17 old at this point i'm like okay how is this at the very top of my feed

48:20 um there was some other stupid stuff check this out my own video

48:26 recommended for me my own

48:30 video i mean you were in it like

48:35 guys that's actually hilarious i turned to them guys my own video recommended for me

48:40 brilliant right it's sort of your video too you were in

48:44 it but ridiculous okay so let's keep going like

48:47 i actually spent a fair bit of time playing with this today prepping this topic because it's just ridiculous so

48:53 you know channels that i have as like my recommended channels so it's kind of

48:57 like yeah i'm aware of this channel already like like i know about Linus cat

49:01 tips but thank you um wait what wrong thing there i hope oh

49:06 shoot see i can't uh i can't monitor

49:09 i can't monitor xsplit when we're there we go we should give you a second i know

49:13 i know we totally need one okay so there's some badminton videos that's fine but i'm subscribed to that and

49:18 check this out 10 months ago this video is from whoa

49:22 this is in the top of my what i should watch feed like is it paying attention

49:26 at all some ncis tech tips it's got stuff i've

49:30 watched already it knows i've watched it

49:33 and it's from two days ago and it's apparently way down here and

49:37 something um so yeah i think the worst part is

49:41 recommending me to watch my own video okay my least favorite thing okay look

49:46 on the left here my subscriptions yes if you go there and then you check where is

49:51 it uploads only okay it's already two full loads that i

49:55 have to go through and then if not now because audio issues and whatnot if you

50:00 click on a video and then go back it loses this preference and you have to

50:05 click on my subscribe here let's do it okay so we go back

50:09 unless i already fixed it unless they already fixed that hold on

50:12 my subscriptions uploads only so they must have already fixed it i did that

50:15 like immediately on rollout

50:18 okay okay hold on i've got i've got some good ones i've got some good ones okay

50:22 so when you go to the home page

50:25 where's the where where's the viral videos oh there you go so this is my home page

50:30 there you go if you go to the home page where

50:33 so you have to go like i don't know okay so where

50:37 where where are my viral videos you guys like where's the ray william johnson

50:40 video that's hot today where's the you know video about some world event that's

50:45 going on that's that's hot today that's true because the default menu is not my

50:49 subscriptions and the default menu is not even

50:52 even if it was my subscriptions that's terrible too because what if it's a

50:55 channel i'm not subscribed to what if i just want to see what's hot on youtube

50:59 right now oh oh and recommended channels is great so my top recommended channel

51:03 is gay penis which i clicked on just because i was

51:07 curious why is this recommended for me he has one video called ear rape and

51:12 it's just like a horrible noise and i'm like

51:15 doesn't he only have 674 yes

51:19 so how did that possibly be okay then there's my own channel

51:23 then there's something i don't know what this is tim mentioned i've watched a

51:26 bunch of his videos so that one's the one legit one check of tomorrow okay

51:31 legit i'm a tech guy so and then kerbal space program which it's like

51:35 irrelevant it's that stupid game that like you make yeah

51:39 yeah um so okay okay okay so there's that

51:42 there's that now get this so then there's my subscriptions which seems to

51:45 be broken too because it's not all the latest ones like i'm pretty sure

51:50 newegg tv has had more stuff in the last two days than that

51:53 um okay so fine

51:58 social get this so this is the most blatant horrible integration of google

52:03 plus that i've yet seen like gmail doesn't have anything like this

52:07 what the heck is this

52:11 like what is this i haven't looked at it no it's terrible basically it's just

52:15 random like google plus crap that if i really wanted to know if someone on my

52:20 google plus liked something on google plus on

52:24 youtube i would go to google plus and i would look at that like this is just just

52:29 blatant just blatant integration of

52:32 something nobody wants into something that everyone wants

52:36 and i mean i understand why they're doing it but well it's it's buried in a

52:39 sub menu though yes so at least it doesn't bug you meanwhile there's

52:43 fundamental stuff that's still broken this kills me this is what guys this is

52:47 why i hate youtube pms so check this out this is how many pms i get this is going

52:52 back to the fifth so in the last two days i've gotten this many pms

52:56 which is worse when i'm replying to them like when i reply to them they come in really

53:00 fast we're all the way back to the fourth now so 100 p.m in the last sort

53:04 of four or five days um that plus twitter plus email plus

53:10 everything just adds up so this is what i hate about this remember this is the

53:14 company that brought you gmail the conversation based email thread thing

53:19 okay why is it that here i'm gonna find

53:22 something that's a reply here why does this not have any other

53:26 information in it you can't expand you can't view other messages or anything so

53:32 guys don't message me on youtube

53:36 do not do it because what happens is i might reply to you and you'll say

53:40 something like hey Linus here's my configuration what video card should i

53:44 get to which i will reply 7770 for example and then you'll reply

53:49 back to me a few days later remember i've read another 80 youtube messages

53:53 alone by then let alone with something right and twitter messages and whatever

53:58 else but is my power supply enough for that and i'll be like guy i have no idea

54:02 what you're asking me i have no idea what power supply you have me so then i

54:06 have to send back another message typing out explaining that i'm not going

54:10 to be able to help you and then you have to send me another message and all of a sudden it turns

54:15 this is why we need a forum like then i'm just going to send like uh like a

54:19 copy paste reply to everyone who messages me join the form join the forum

54:22 join the forum because i can't manage this like it's

54:25 totally impossible uh and i think i just messed up but nope there we go okay by

54:30 the way forum's coming i need to at least like finish finals first

54:34 which are coming up soon once i finish finals work on the forum we'll start up

54:38 again okay so meanwhile they're not even fixing fundamental stuff like how broken

54:43 private messaging is oh yeah here's another good one this this is this is

54:47 freaking awesome so i think i have to go back to messages

54:51 uh yes contact notifications i have 1500 of

54:54 them watch what happens if i actually try to accept them

54:59 it only has that little bit yeah it adds like two or three or something and it's

55:03 like great thanks for that so that's broken comments shows me only a small

55:07 fraction of the actual comments that get posted on my video which is fine i guess

55:10 because it's unmanageable anyway

55:14 uh shared with you i totally ignore those um yeah so so ridiculous okay so back to

55:20 the homepage back to other things that are wrong uh watch later watch history right so i

55:25 can't find anything viral social i would have thought would have been like viral

55:28 stuff managed subscriptions is fine browse channels this is the kicker and

55:32 this is where it went from being annoyed to being mad

55:36 like okay here i cannot emphasize enough how mad i am

55:40 about what's about what you guys are about to see so get this so we've got a

55:44 whole bunch of different topics it's always been sorted by topic and it i

55:47 mean do you remember when there used to be awards like there was like top ten in canada or two that was really cool those

55:52 were really cool i liked those because i always wanted them but they were never accurate so i don't

55:56 know if i ever lived it actually won them like i was number one most viewed in canada

56:00 once and there's no way like there's just no way um

56:05 okay so we got recommended for you we got animation automotive beauty and

56:08 fashion oh really no way this is in alphabetical order

56:12 that is the worst way of sorting things ever oh i didn't even notice that before

56:17 that's terrible oh okay so top gear motor trend car and

56:22 driver these are all these all make sense beauty and fashion i have no idea which ones are the good ones

56:27 celebrities and gossip okay so we got ray william johnson there

56:30 film and entertainment we got ray william johnson there

56:33 lols and interwebs we got from william johnson

56:37 what category is he not in okay so there's that now get this

56:42 uh comedy doesn't have ray william johnson for some reason but does have

56:45 epic meal time which i would argue is not really very funny but is definitely

56:49 cooking and definitely not health okay so there's that

56:53 um there were some glaring omissions that i

56:57 noticed from tv gaming where is pewdiepie

57:02 isn't he the most like biggest person on youtube he is number 10 for most

57:07 subscribed on youtube he is number two for the gaming category behind only

57:11 machinima at this point okay he is the fastest grow i mean okay like

57:16 i can't watch his videos let me make that clear i'm not a bro oh okay not a

57:20 bro however

57:23 you can argue with results he is the fastest growing channel on youtube even

57:27 bigger than uh what's her name jenna marbles who is number two right now

57:32 and somehow youtube has overlooked him in

57:35 the gaming category where is he exactly there are channels here that have

57:39 literally one quarter to one eighth as many

57:43 subscribers as he does daily views for him is in the millions

57:48 like four or five million views per day and he somehow he's not a top featured

57:53 gaming channel let's say it's like okay that makes a lot of sense

57:57 um music okay you can say whatever you want about justin bieber and

58:03 where he should be there but he should be there he's the number one music

58:07 channel behind universal music like i actually pay attention to this stuff

58:11 where is justin bieber here not there

58:14 um okay now this is the part that okay here here here get this okay so it

58:19 should be noted that i'm on location canada and the results change a little

58:22 bit if i go to worldwide here's another glaring admission where's the usa

58:27 what you cannot manually select usa as a

58:31 location no it's not there trust me it is not

58:36 there okay so let's go worldwide just for

58:39 lulls actually oh no no no hold on oh shoot no

58:44 no let's go back i want to i want to stay i want to stay canada for now sorry

58:48 guys trust me i'm going somewhere with this i'm going i'm getting to the part that made me mad soon

58:52 okay canada uh here so back to canada all right so so

58:58 we've established that there seemed to be some omissions in terms of the

59:01 rankings of things so let's go back to ah tech

59:04 so i'm not here i can swallow that i guess

59:08 although this creators project thing with 43 000 subscribers seems kind of

59:12 sort of like it doesn't need to be there okay so i'm location canada where am i

59:20 where am i slick i just i'm not there i didn't know texila was

59:25 canada i don't think any of these things are canada i noticed all of google's

59:28 channels are here ijustine is very definitely not canada very definitely

59:32 not canada very soldier knows best is not very definitely not canada indeed um

59:37 you know what else is missing so they've got htc where's samsung mobile

59:42 we've got newegg.com which is clearly not canada so you could make the

59:46 argument okay so one of the things that was suggested to me was well Linus

59:50 you're logged in as yourself obviously it's not there and i went okay

59:55 where's mci xcom where's the other channel

60:00 but i am clearly not logged in as

60:04 and like you can say oh you're just complaining about your own thing but

60:07 there's a billion people here okay there's guys with like subscribers 39

60:11 000 subscribers here 39 000 41 000 i mean there was one that i was looking at

60:15 i forget which one it was um shoot i don't even remember but it was

60:20 one that's getting like like a thousand views a day like we're talking a channel

60:23 that is 100th the size of what i'm doing on one of my channels alone so well

60:27 about 1 200th of what they're doing together so i'm like okay where am i so

60:31 i kind of went okay well they've clearly got the regions all mixed up so let's go

60:35 ahead and change to location worldwide shall we

60:38 so this is how broken this is where's justin bieber where is

60:43 like where's pewdiepie they're in there by the way so now where am i

60:48 oh still not there we have stuff in here with 5 000 subscribers

60:54 there's a channel called samsung galaxy s2 with 5 000 subscribers that's in here

61:00 7 000 yes there are incredibly small channels

61:03 neither Linus tech tips nor nci xcom are

61:06 in here that's crazy isn't it

61:11 so i actually sent an email to partner support today i was just like oh guys i

61:15 couldn't help noticing that i'm i've been a youtube partner for like

61:19 you know three and a half four years now and my channel is not a recommended

61:23 channel under tech which is sort of clearly the category that i'm in

61:28 so yeah that's sort of that's that that was a shot through the heart because i'm

61:32 very sure that people use this to find channels so yeah so they've totally

61:36 screwed up the regionality they've totally screwed up as far as i can tell

61:41 the channels that are actually showing up here because like some of these i see

61:45 samsung mobile is here now now that we're here

61:48 apple's here google's here and i mean that's the thing about samsung too is

61:51 it's like i guess i guess i shouldn't necessarily be that butthurt about it

61:55 because if they left out samsung who's one of google's key partners like key

62:00 strategic partners for the future of Android

62:04 then it's it's probably not something where they were like oh yeah well that

62:07 line is techtube's guy i think we'll just pull him out but i think it's just that's how broken the algorithm is

62:14 i mean ray william johnson's in three different categories and i'm not in the

62:18 tech category that's like well what are you guys doing over there like well ray should

62:22 definitely be in a at least one but still but but only one

62:26 you don't get to be in like six different categories like so if i make

62:29 one video about makeup and i have 200 000 subscribers should i demand to be

62:33 under makeup because i have a bunch of subscribers like

62:36 i know it's ambiguous sometimes but jeez

62:39 i mean there's stuff in here that isn't tech the slo-mo guys is not a tech

62:42 channel and here it is it's listed under tech i don't understand how that makes any

62:47 sense whatsoever so there i hope that wasn't too boring for you

62:52 guys i hope you guys found it interesting that is my take on how

62:56 friggin broken youtube

62:59 new horrible horrible horrible layout is

63:03 here let's go to actually oh this is no this is another one oh

63:06 okay so we'll go look at an actual video now

63:10 pause thank you good work

63:13 um so we'll go look at an actual video

63:16 maximize there we go so we got all this blank space over here that's not that

63:19 bad i read the comments on my videos i really do i think a lot of youtubers

63:23 don't and i think they're missing out because i read them too yep it's a great

63:27 way to find out what the audience actually thinks of your content when i

63:31 click all comments do you like how much of my screen i'm

63:34 using now we're down to like a third

63:38 and on the monitor that i have that i usually read comments on it's 2560x1440

63:44 which means i'm using a quarter of the monitor because it just mashes

63:47 everything over to that corner and it's absolutely ridiculous

63:52 so yeah how much do i like the new youtube layout not not a whole huggy

63:57 huggy lot here sorry let's go ahead and kill that sorry

64:01 that ended up being like my tirade and not so much uh

64:05 not so much sort of a conversation between us but i'm sorry for that no no

64:10 that's fine but yeah i hadn't checked it out way too much so i was i'm i'm super

64:14 super mad ah

64:19 no okay is slick attacking i didn't know

64:22 what that meant until i had to ask one of my friends at school

64:26 um i'm not like i'm still not entirely

64:30 in full understanding of it but it means like huge fan of anime oh okay i watch

64:35 one i need to eat so go ahead you're gonna get a chair we'll switch sides in the

64:39 bed again i watched my warmed it for you which oh

64:43 god which as some people figured out from

64:46 some of the videos my background on my laptop um it's sword art online one of

64:50 my friends drew that picture that's why it's the background of my laptop but

64:54 anyways um so any constellation you came up first

64:59 page if it's any constellation you come up on

65:02 first page when you search for tech

65:05 search for tech okay so that i i don't know i didn't see

65:09 all i saw was the uh the recommended channels anyway i'm eating now so go

65:12 ahead you

65:15 gotta pay google to be there i've heard about search ranking stuff where you

65:19 have to pay them but i don't suspect that that guy with 5000 subscribers

65:24 got there because of that um unbox therapy was there

65:29 on international i don't think it was there in canada no not on international

65:34 yes international no canada even though he's based out of toronto right okay

65:42 what is the final platform for the forum uh v bulletin

65:48 yeah paid for it already when you guys were sending your recommendations so

65:52 we're not changing it now and v-bulletin's good we're going with

65:55 revolting um please talk about Intel already only

66:00 30 minutes left okay get started so i'll just bring it

66:03 up okay Intel released a statement saying that they will oh well i'm still

66:07 eating but whatever until released a statement saying that they're committed to lga

66:11 um although it was fairly kind of

66:16 airy it wasn't like down to the point like oh 1155

66:21 tier and 2011 tier will always be lga blah blah blah blah as we were all kind

66:25 of hoping it was more just there will always be a socket

66:28 so that could easily mean that exactly what we were saying before where

66:33 they're getting rid of the 1155 tier could happen

66:36 although i'd yeah explain tears

66:40 so there's we used to have one socket guys remember we used to have lga 775

66:45 lga 771 which was server only

66:48 now it's just like a workstation and really really high-end enthusiast which

66:52 is 2011 tier and then like average consumer average gamer not even average

66:57 gamer pretty much every gamer which is 1155 tier

67:02 and you know what they've done that very gracefully because when they first introduced the

67:06 dual socket system

67:10 they launched the new processors on 1366 and for quite a while

67:14 if you didn't want to buy 1366 enthusiast class platform you were still

67:18 stuck with 775. then finally

67:21 1156 rolled out and kind of caught up to the point where

67:25 they were very close and then over the last almost what four

67:28 or five years now Intel has slowly

67:32 de-emphasized having the gamers and enthusiasts on that higher end platform

67:36 to the point where when's the last time you saw a gaming rig

67:39 that's not like just sort of a because i can rig with like a

67:43 six core but like a properly optimized gaming rig that's got a 2011 motherboard

67:47 in it uh no one really because everyone that i

67:50 know if they're building a 2011 system and they're a gamer it's also because

67:54 they're like a programmer or a systems guy or something where they want to run

67:59 vms that's the main reason why i actually see people running 2011 boards

68:03 is because they want to run vms uh because all the RAM all the

68:07 additional processing power threads everything is really really helpful for vms

68:12 but yeah pretty much anyone i know that's like yeah i'm a gamer it's just a

68:15 155 which means that that really common

68:18 socket is still under threat realistically because Intel

68:23 hasn't completely cleared it AMD was like sockets all the way and they

68:27 released this huge press thing about how uh all the rumors surrounding Intel and

68:31 all that kind of stuff they just didn't care and we're always going to support the do-it-yourself enthusiast which is

68:35 awesome that's really cool um but Intel is still even though they released a

68:40 statement saying that they're dedicated to sockets i think

68:43 they were dedicated sockets anyways because if you move away from sockets

68:46 the big server guys are not really going to be okay with that well

68:50 like at all so they're still definitely gonna when

68:54 you look at super computer projects like um crap what's that one that just rolled

68:58 out all those teslas and then tech did an article about it

69:01 i don't know the name i don't remember but they didn't constantly swap them they upgraded all their cpus at the same

69:06 time yeah they have like guys whose job it is to just like

69:10 mass socket swap cpus so like

69:13 they weren't gonna just ditch it and they're basically just saying yeah we're

69:17 not gonna just completely ditch it but no total promises on the whole

69:21 idea so they could still roll out the 1155 tier and go with vga

69:27 but i would argue AMD didn't have any choice but to say that

69:31 i mean you look at how they behaved like yes they could kind of go like

69:35 rah-rah-rah we support overclockers we have unlocked

69:38 cpus we have this we have that but

69:41 okay look it back when they were riding high they had one unlocked CPU it cost a

69:47 thousand dollars okay um

69:51 you look at how long it took them to roll out that unlocking all the way down

69:55 i think what was the original i think it was a phenom x4 we finally

70:00 got a black edition yeah or wasn't it an original phantom what were the original

70:03 phantoms was there a 940 black i'm not sure

70:08 i think there might have been a night for i can't remember i i'm sorry i can't

70:11 remember but it took quite a while until we got to

70:15 the point where anything other than the flagship whatever price that was coming

70:18 in at was unlocked to where now every fx is

70:22 unlocked down all the way down to like 100 and whatever dollars yeah but that's

70:25 also a bit of theme yeah but it's a theme that they had to

70:29 implement yeah they didn't have a choice so i mean it's all fine and good for

70:32 them to say you know rob we're supporting the socket we're supporting overclocking and

70:37 modding and all that but what else can they say at this point

70:40 well oh discussion topic though and this

70:44 was something that i tweeted about already uh do you know what an athlon mp is

70:49 no oh okay can i take my last bite first yeah okay

70:53 should i ask them probably guys can i can i just do this they they said no

71:01 my hair is like hovering blue that's kind of gross actually

71:04 no no no no no

71:08 no that's disgusting we're gonna eat

71:13 move oh my goodness i need toilet paper that's actually how did you even find my

71:18 hands no but how did you manage to get all of

71:21 that all over your hand as i put the wrap down in the plate that

71:25 already had the drippings from the last wrap i ate so the outside of it was covered in

71:29 grease you know like you just after you make it you flip it over and then it doesn't

71:33 drip out i have no idea what you're talking about

71:38 don't worry about it okay

71:41 so yeah we all know AMD's sort of you know

71:45 hard times right now and all that and like okay jumping back a little bit you

71:49 can say yeah they had to say that but they still said it you can't just

71:52 completely devalue something because you see that

71:56 it was necessary yes i can if i have like that axe to your throat and i say

72:00 tell me you think i'm like hot and sexy and awesome and funny

72:04 and you say that do i believe you um

72:08 no i would argue AMD has an axe to their throat right now

72:11 have you seen their stock price no i'm sure it's horrible they're going to

72:15 be a penny stock in no time so yeah

72:19 they're come on still they've been taking that angle before it isn't

72:24 exactly new and like you're saying that unlock processor thing but that was a

72:27 whole market slow movement

72:30 until it was pretty slow with that too yeah they were slow about it but they

72:34 were selling plenty of cpus at the time like they when Intel rolled out k series

72:39 they didn't have to right whereas when AMD was doing it they

72:43 had to so who do i trust more inherently here right but it's also been a really

72:47 really long time yeah it took a long time okay right

72:51 so the artificial locking of multipliers goes right way back to the barton days

72:55 that was when AMD started doing it in fact early 2500 pluses were unlocked and

72:59 later 2500 pluses weren't when i resold my original my first diy computer i

73:04 built for myself had a 2500 plus and when i sold it i actually got more than

73:08 i paid for it because it was an older unlocked one and AMD had started locking

73:13 multipliers so guys in case you don't know this locking the multiplier is an

73:16 artificial thing that's done it is a it is a product differentiation strategy

73:21 that is allows them to sell something for more when the product actually isn't

73:26 any different so they're both they both do it and there's a lot of stuff that's

73:29 like that things like cash your 3930k

73:33 has just as much cash on it as a 3970x

73:36 but they've turned off some of it or it was defective or whatever else

73:40 okay so so multiplier unlocking

73:44 here's another artificial limitation so any CPU these days whether it's from

73:48 Intel or AMD has um has all of the the key communication bus

73:54 built right into the CPU whether it's you know a front side bus or a hyper

73:57 transport or a qpi or whatever else so

74:01 what they've been doing since before my

74:04 day so a little bit before athlon xp

74:08 is they've been artificially limiting the ability for two sockets and a

74:12 motherboard to communicate with each other so great examples of this are

74:16 things like skull trail things like evga

74:19 sr2 and srx where the only cpus that

74:24 work in these configurations are xeons

74:28 or the only cpus that work in a dual CPU configuration are opterons

74:32 and you know what i think it's time for us all to just call bs on that because

74:36 there's so many applications that scale well with cores now and i'm not talking

74:40 games no gaming here but 3d rendering

74:43 video editing after effects all this kind of stuff scales incredibly

74:47 well of course we can build awesome multi-core cpus these days that

74:51 have great single threaded performance and

74:55 we've got both AMD and Intel basically giving us the old

74:59 you know it's the wrong finger but you get the point um if we actually want to

75:03 just take two cpus on the cheap throw them in a machine and go okay i

75:07 don't care about single thread performance that much i want two lower

75:10 clock cpus and i want them to just be like

75:14 wicked fast for some kind of maybe i want to run a bunch of virtual machines

75:18 yeah i was especially just saying dedicating an entire CPU to like two

75:21 virtual machines would be amazing we have desktop platforms now that are

75:25 capable of 64 gigs of RAM i was running that in the one behind you if i could

75:28 throw two cpus in there for a total of 12 cores or even two cheap quad cores

75:33 for a total of eight cores like freaking awesome right that's like

75:38 what's that like eight gigs of RAM per core that you could run virtual machines

75:42 on that would bring back a like

75:45 weird performance scramble that we haven't really seen in

75:49 in like custom computers in a really long time right okay so the athlon mp

75:54 was a cheapo athlon CPU not a server

75:57 grade CPU that would actually had like a cheapo dual socket platform remember

76:02 this is socket a that was capable of running two cpus i

76:06 remember seeing one in london drugs before i was into diy when i thought

76:11 shopping at london drugs was a good idea for computer stuff

76:14 and it was just it occurred to me the other day it's like

76:18 okay well tdps are going down so in terms of board design limitations

76:24 it shouldn't really be anything that complicated because we don't have to

76:27 deal with these hot hot cpus anymore um

76:31 core counts and single threaded performance continue to go up

76:35 why not enable this if AMD like okay AMD needs to sell cpus

76:40 to enthusiasts which they can't do right now they need to sell more cpus which

76:45 they can't do right now they need to gain back some mind share with something

76:49 other than an empty press release about you know something that they had to say

76:53 anyway because realistically what were they gonna do it's like oh we're

76:57 committed to the socket because that's on their road map probably because they

77:00 didn't think of it first and and wait AMD actually only said until 2014.

77:06 so there you go and 2014 is i think when that's when

77:10 piledriver is supposed to last hope so they haven't even committed an am4

77:14 socket or anything like that until do the same thing yeah so if they

77:19 wanted to basically go look we care about this again

77:23 give us a multi-processor capable desktop platform why

77:28 not i don't know because a phenom 2 or

77:32 an fx rather an fx8 series is good

77:35 enough for gaming and from a single core perspective

77:38 whereas like any affordable xeon is clocked at like two 2.3 gigahertz like

77:43 it's slow whereas you could overclock these things

77:46 because they're f x's i mean they tried to do this with four by four or whatever

77:50 that ended up getting called yeah i don't remember

77:53 um it was four by four at first that dual fx dual core thing yeah um

78:00 but in in that case they made the platform so expensive and like the cpus

78:04 were so power hungry and blah blah blah blah blah like make it a cheap chipset

78:08 cheap chipset let guys like ASUS Gigabyte MSI come to market with cheapo

78:12 motherboards that can take two sockets it's fast enough for gaming and you

78:16 would just have like horsepower to just

78:19 throw at whatever you could you could never slow down that system you throw a

78:23 couple ssds in there and raid you throw a couple like wicked graphics cards in

78:27 there there is nothing that system couldn't do it would be a folding monster

78:31 i think i think the the reason why they don't is uh

78:35 maybe you get a rush in sales right away well it might hurt optron in the long

78:38 run but that's what i mean but then you've got that system that can do everything and you've got the problem

78:43 which we have right now we're already there oh i know but like we're already

78:46 there you would just make it worse though but at least they could sell two

78:49 cpus to every person who upgrades their computer instead of one right

78:54 we've got the problem where everyone is running a 260 or everyone is running an

78:58 8800 and they just don't care because it still runs everything like some guy

79:02 asked me i don't remember exactly what games he listed but he's like what

79:05 graphics card will run this this is this all fine i'm like

79:10 take your pick yeah whatever you want man i was like uh 260

79:14 because i know from personal experience because i used to run a 260. uh some guy

79:17 that comments on a lot of my stuff was named his graphics card and he's like

79:20 i've been running this forever and it runs everything and i'm like

79:24 yup like yeah good job but like

79:28 at the same time like okay cry engine three

79:32 ah i'm so excited for crying but the specs have been released i know what

79:35 about hardware sucks they do but everyone's like oh look at the minimum requirement it's not that high yeah but

79:39 realistically it's going to be trash okay absolutely

79:43 i mean have you run crisis one at minimum details it's horrible it looks

79:47 like halo one it's terrible and you still lag like crazy it doesn't

79:51 even matter like minimum spec

79:54 does not equate what you should actually be running at that's one thing i think

79:59 people don't really care about and what i love about that too this is the best

80:03 part is that the like the baller recommended spec

80:07 is maximum stuff which basically means

80:10 it doesn't exist because if there was something better they'd probably go with

80:14 that i think when crisis was released

80:17 it was uh and cryengine 3 is supposed to scale too right yes so if you throw in

80:22 like they're they're high-end performance ones they're like oh 680 or equivalent

80:26 um if you throw two in it's going to scale up so here guys this is what um this is

80:31 what crisis called for back when it was released so it asked for

80:37 ah minimum system requirements like a 6800

80:42 gt or greater 9800 pro it was asking for

80:46 which is like was not that great of a card back then and then recommended it

80:51 was asking for an 8 800 dts

80:55 640 which that would cry running that

80:58 game yes i had to get crushed i had 9800

81:02 gts running i had a Gigabyte 800 gts and i tried to run crisis and just

81:07 medium settings maybe not even anyway even on media and i was running 1080p so

81:12 on medium settings it like just boiled itself crashed so i am super hopeful no

81:18 crisis is free i mean people who are tweeting you they're like oh we saw the

81:21 crisis three specs and oh it doesn't look like it's gonna be oh yeah it's gonna be demanding

81:26 i'm super excited i can't wait until i need to upgrade that 480. and i love how

81:31 they have four different tiers it's like minimum something something like maximum

81:35 or and you're like even once you start getting into recommended it starts

81:39 asking for pretty good hardware so and

81:42 not to mention like there's going to be guys there's going to be mods for it in all likelihood if they're sticking to

81:47 what they said where it's going to be a proper pc title so yeah people are going

81:50 to find ways to amp up the textures and everything else well star citizen star

81:54 citizen so other servers modded all servers other games running the engine

81:58 could even bring more i mean remember this is just an FPS with some jungle or

82:02 something you want like a friggin universe running the engine you're

82:05 probably going to need some more horsepower well eve isn't that hard to run out of universe well yeah but it's

82:09 also not running cryengine 3. i agree

82:12 so and and i think the the action bits

82:16 i think the action bits of star citizen are going to be a little bit more intense than he played eve for years

82:22 yeah i believe we should all just yell at him he's good

82:26 he was good just because you can't handle it

82:33 rule you want he was good whatever man i've been thinking about

82:36 getting back into it oh no don't do it don't do it don't do it

82:40 no don't do it don't do it it's not worth it man you know you know

82:44 it's not worth it i know but i just you're gonna have a you're gonna have a

82:48 full-time job soon so

82:51 yeah okay we talked about Intel we talked

82:54 about the youtube layout um there was uh

82:58 ac ah wireless ac

83:01 so we were playing around with our first wireless ac

83:05 router and client in the tech tips lab today

83:09 and um well

83:12 how'd it go it's kind of terribly

83:16 yeah we tested a one Gigabyte file transfer

83:21 and it took uh

83:24 about thirty percent longer twenty percent longer took n plus a minute and

83:27 a half fourth and four fifty and four fifty

83:31 yeah okay yeah and four fifty it took a minute and a half on the same router on

83:34 the ac router yeah and then on ac it

83:37 took two minutes

83:41 it was like 158 or 159 or something like that so

83:45 this was an ac router that was 1200 ac 450n yeah

83:50 so in theory it should have been three times faster but we were using

83:55 what was our actual dongle 1200 or something right

83:58 so in theory 1200 so it should have been on three times faster almost oh yeah

84:04 almost almost two and a half times faster yeah um so that was not our

84:08 experience with it um so i guess the real question is is now

84:12 the time to upgrade to an ac router because bearing in mind that ac router

84:17 with maybe better clients are coming that will support like more clients are

84:21 coming because right now you almost can't buy anything with ac there's like some media bridges there's this one usb

84:27 adapter and that's another funny thing is like

84:30 pop quiz what is the maximum throughput of usb 2.

84:38 uh you don't remember do you is it 480 yeah 480 megabit per second so if i'm

84:43 going to be like yeah wireless ac i didn't realize you were asking me yeah

84:47 then you doesn't matter yeah ac 1200 megabit per second on a usb adapter

84:54 because it came with usb 2 which was just flabbergasting like

84:59 so so okay so like real clients i mean that might have been the problem i don't

85:03 know i don't think it was but i usually don't i don't it was slower it doesn't really

85:08 make any sense but there's a lot of overhead still yeah slower by 30 seconds on a scale of

85:13 two minutes okay that's pretty bad

85:16 okay um so so right better clients are probably

85:21 coming more clients are probably coming the router's obviously not crap because

85:24 those are pretty good end speeds if i recall correctly

85:27 um but

85:31 is right is now the time to upgrade because you can still get an ac router

85:35 that is a good an access point so if you're buying a new router today

85:41 do you buy ac personally no okay why

85:44 ea 4500. i know i know i know i know you

85:48 love the ea for i love the ef 4500. everyone should love the a45 it's like

85:51 200 so my black friday sale it was like

85:55 140. was it really i was really tempted that's a really good deal i know you

85:59 already have a 35 i know

86:04 don't just buy extra routers i didn't how many times

86:10 he wanted to buy a new keyboard just to have one that's loud and one that's

86:13 quiet i'm probably still going to ah you're killing me here um

86:19 okay well what if your phone supported ac which it doesn't i mean hopefully

86:23 phones are coming soon but then what um i'd want to see the actual effect of

86:28 throughput because if it's kind of like what we saw in the office then no

86:32 i had an interesting conversation with linksys where they basically said that

86:37 uh there was one out of a big box chain i'm not gonna say who it was but it was

86:41 like future shop best buy staples like it was one of those guys out of one out of a big box chain there was one store

86:46 that had their their return rate for tablets was like one-third of all the

86:50 other stores and when asked how the heck are you

86:54 getting people to keep their tablets because it's big box people just buy

86:58 this stuff and they're like oh Android i can't figure it out they take it back right um they were like oh well when

87:02 people come back we just ask them when's the last time you updated your router

87:06 and when they upgrade to an m router they have a way better experience with

87:09 it they don't find it so slow and they end up keeping them and um

87:14 my response to that was my iphone 4 has wireless n

87:20 and when i actually just do like oh my battery ran out because you people

87:23 tweeted me too much when i actually do just like a raw file transfer it peaks

87:27 around one megabyte 1.2 megabytes per second have you tested your galaxy s3 uh

87:33 if i'm transferring to my computer i do it through a cable to through because

87:36 it's better for your battery to charge your phone through your computer not a wall plug so i always charge it to my

87:41 computer anyways okay okay then

87:44 so would you say okay well fine so so right so one

87:48 megabyte per second what's that translate to in

87:51 sort of mega bit yeah so that's about eight megabits

87:55 which means even after all the overhead there's really no reason why wireless g

87:59 shouldn't be fast enough for that and i mean we're

88:03 the tablets back the tablets that i'm talking about is from like a year and a

88:06 half ago two years ago or like whenever whenever uh tegra 2 launched yeah so

88:11 whenever that was a year ago whatever so something something ago

88:15 and um i would make the argument a couple of

88:18 things so number one is that wireless g should have been plenty fast number two

88:22 is that there shouldn't have really been any processor in any tablet at that time that was that much faster than what's in

88:27 here well okay um to add to this argument maybe that's why

88:31 uh maybe that's a huge part of the reason why wrt 54g lasted so long with

88:36 better firmware right with tomato because people could make it good enough

88:40 right that's fine and g has really really good range too i know g has

88:45 amazing range that's another thing about ac ac relies on five gigahertz which

88:49 means less interference but actually less range as well yeah yeah and i

88:52 already drop wireless in my house using wireless n all the time if uh if you can

88:57 get in range though then five gigahertz is like

89:01 primo absolutely primo but you can get five gigahertz in

89:05 yeah which is what i'm running at home right now right so so that's not a strong argument for ac

89:10 either um so anyway i would make the argument that if i can only do one megabyte per

89:15 second sustained throughput on this guy over wireless and this is like at a

89:19 reasonable distance from my access point like i'm not right next to it but i'm

89:22 also not eight rooms over either i don't think there's anything yet in a

89:27 mobile hand held that's more what three times faster than this

89:31 so that would give us maximum like three megabytes per second

89:35 throughput and if you're getting three megs per second on your phone and we're

89:38 not talking artificial speed test i'm talking i'm actually downloading a file

89:42 from my server to my phone on wi-fi i wish i wish i had

89:46 more because i can't even really say anything because i haven't done like

89:50 actual legit file transfers right and i haven't timed any downloads over lte but

89:55 i've had stuff come down pretty freaking fast let's have let's have people on uh

89:59 let's have people on twitter see if they just totally disagree with me

90:02 no one's talking about it oh we can this is a good this is a good

90:05 q a question but we'll cover that one after so okay i would make the argument

90:09 that wireless ac will do absolutely nothing for phones because wireless n

90:14 like like wireless n one one antenna is

90:17 already 150 megabit so even if your phone is three times faster than this

90:22 one that means still you're talking 25

90:25 megabit or so real world is all you really need wait were you doing a file

90:29 transfer from your own pc yeah okay from my home server i just not the bottleneck

90:33 i wanna i wanna actually try this maybe we should do a video on it sometimes

90:36 because i haven't tried it at all with my phone so i don't really wanna comment

90:39 so i don't know i don't know what's gonna drive ac adoption because what

90:43 seems to me that people complain about for wireless is mostly range

90:47 um reliability so ac will address some reliability but you could just as easily

90:51 do that with the five gigabytes wireless n oh yeah

90:54 um and range is not going to be helped by ac

90:58 um speed would be another one but based on

91:02 our experience it's not there yet in terms of like the hardware we're also in

91:06 like draft pre-draft range yes so

91:10 and i mean the chipsets run so hot and consume so much power it's gonna be a

91:13 while before we see it properly implemented on like ultrabooks and and

91:17 phones which are the most wi-fi reliant platforms yeah um i would argue that the

91:22 processor in your phone and sometime in the next it'll take what

91:26 maybe another three four five years before it even remotely requires ac

91:30 speeds um

91:33 i mean it's not usually my thing minus tech tips to be like yeah you really

91:37 don't need this yeah um but when it comes to but at the same

91:41 time okay yeah we have to be realistic about it yeah um ac maybe not but at the

91:46 same time i think it is realistic for people to look into options like ea 4500

91:50 instead of their like random green stripe

91:54 kind of trashy rotor that they just buy because they think it's going to do the job like there is legitimately way

92:00 better experiences than you're having right now right because i'm sure most of people watching

92:05 do not have something like an ea 4500 and slick's coming from a very heavy

92:08 usage household i mean if it's like two people then you know what

92:13 use the stupid wireless router that came with your with your modem because who cares yeah

92:17 but i mean how many people are in your house right now we've got four people all of which are gamers uh there's a lot

92:23 of file transfers that happen a lot of watching streams a lot of gaming a lot

92:27 of and on a residential just normal internet connection your router actually

92:31 makes a huge huge difference yeah so any multi multi-person household i could see

92:36 it making a big difference yeah you know what let's wrap up with a little q a i

92:39 actually didn't realize it's almost 11 o'clock so oh well like wow

92:44 um so great question from fade why is it better to charge your battery over you

92:48 well okay they're they're all over usb but why is it better to charge your battery from your computer versus from

92:52 the ac wall outlet when when you plug your phone into the

92:56 wall compared to when you plug it into a computer you might notice that charge is slower that's actually a good thing

93:01 because when you trickle charge something it keeps its total capacity

93:04 for a longer period of time so over a year your total capacity of your battery

93:08 is going to go down but if you trickle charge it say through a computer which

93:12 isn't exactly trickle charging but it's more trickle charging than plugging it into a wall slower yeah it'll hold that

93:17 total capacity at least better than when you plug it into a wall if you're

93:20 playing into a wall all the time it's just throwing so much power at it at all

93:24 points in time that your total capacity actually there's grass for it online you

93:27 can look this up will kind of be okay for a little while but then we'll tank

93:31 really really hard now modern batteries handle it better yep than older

93:35 batteries but it's still a factor and something else this is just my sort of

93:39 common sense alarm going off i don't know if there's any validity to this but

93:43 um okay think about think about the power

93:46 that's being delivered over this medium so for usb you've got it going through

93:51 so you've got your ac power which is going into hopefully a ups

93:55 but probably not but into a computer power supply which has very strict

93:59 regulations in terms of the uh the voltage fluctuations and all of that

94:03 which is then going through your motherboard which is regulating again

94:07 you're getting five volts come hell or high water

94:10 to that device which charges off five volts now whether you bought an iphone

94:14 or a cheapo phone or a samsung phone the reality of it is that little power brick

94:18 you have they optimized it for two things space savings and cost someone in

94:23 xinjiang china or somewhere is making that adapter

94:27 at a spec of space and cost and not necessarily at a spec of exactly the

94:32 right output voltage or no fluctuation whatsoever a power supply

94:36 is an incredibly complex piece of electronics and think about it why is it

94:42 that your power supply for your computer costs a hundred dollars and this thing

94:45 costs like you know 30 cents to make which one is giving you

94:50 cleaner power to your sensitive electronic device i would argue probably

94:53 the computer yeah so i don't know if there's any truth to that but it's just

94:57 sort of it's just probably

95:01 uh okay i have the apple aluminum keyboard

95:06 oh people buying multiple keyboards for their acoustics

95:11 ashley craddick is there any good aftermarket air

95:14 coolers for the 7970 core edition um

95:18 you know what i really just don't recommend aftermarket graphics card

95:21 coolers anymore i really i would just block it yeah get a water block or get a

95:26 good graphics card in the first place

95:29 um you should use your own router the extreme computing that's a decent writer

95:34 i hate that it's not possible to just a page and post something just by typing

95:38 something and it will automatically find the box

95:41 what what i hate that is not possible to just

95:47 um okay moving along yeah angel if you could only use one os would you stay

95:51 with Windows 7 or Windows 8. you know what we did an episode today that's going to be up hopefully soon where we

95:55 added the start menu to Windows 8 and i thought i didn't miss it and then i was

96:00 sure i missed it and then i thought maybe i could get used to not having it and then we put it in and i was like

96:04 yeah this helps Windows 8 is snappier it has more

96:09 up-to-date functionality like storage spaces it's quick it's just better

96:14 and then you add start menu to it and the the one on nine night.com you can

96:18 add the xp the vista or the classic

96:21 start menu to it and you can change all the options it's very customizable you

96:24 can go to like what is it what's a little button called view all options or something yes and you get like two

96:29 complete rows of tabs that are full of

96:32 like customization it's kind of amazing it's really good yeah it's awesome

96:36 um people who played crisis 3 alpha must

96:40 not tell you anything about it but if they were allowed 7970 ultra 27 but if

96:45 they are interesting interesting point xavier

96:50 he's saying he can't tell us anything about the FPS but if he could

96:54 then that would be very surprising right um zone rdx for 20 bucks

97:00 about a one millimeter gap from the graphics card fan i would recommend finding another slot if you can

97:05 i've been thinking about getting back into eve as well

97:08 guys don't do it yeah cds barlow don't do it don't do it

97:13 uh gaelic gelled wings are awesome i use those on my front radiator in my system

97:19 and they undervolt really well yes zach okay

97:23 fine last last conversation topic fan specs that matter okay so cfm and

97:28 static pressure these are both important things um noise these are important things but

97:34 for me those take a secondary role to how

97:38 gracefully they undervolt remember there's a lot more to a fan's noise

97:42 signature it's noise characteristics than just how much noise it makes on a

97:46 decibel meter okay

97:50 think about that for a minute because if there's like an ee

97:53 versus a which one's more annoying if there's

97:56 like a very obnoxious whereas if it's just a

98:00 low hum those can both read exactly the same on a sound meter

98:05 but in actuality some of them are much more annoying than others that's why i'm

98:10 kind of a really big fan of chisel typhoons air

98:14 penetrators are good too i'm not yeah did you ever try your penetration no i did i did i really like them um

98:19 f series knocked up they're also very good yellowed wings i

98:22 cannot stand the beige and brown i love Noctua and like

98:28 nhd14s i put them in so many systems but then they're just

98:32 ah why are you beijing brown like they look okay in c70s because they give it

98:36 like a weird military camo kind of look and it's kind of cool

98:39 but other than that it's just like oh this is their old color scheme it

98:44 actually wasn't quite as bad that's not nearly as big this is uh this is from

98:48 back when their first heatsink launched before they even had a pressure fan so

98:52 it's more of a white and it's a darker brown whereas now it's kind of a ready

98:56 brown yeah and it's like it's like a kind of weirder beige too yeah yeah

99:00 they've actually done quite a few revisions on the colors i've seen them over the years they've changed a fair

99:04 bit but like air penetrators gentle typhoons all these like the sound that

99:08 you get from them even if it's even if it's a little bit loud like if you're

99:12 running some fast ones and you're not downvolting them or anything um

99:17 it's just like a whooshy air sound yeah like you

99:20 just kind of hear the airflow you don't necessarily hear a ticking or a buzz or

99:23 anything like that which is great and a lot of people ask me about like oh

99:27 what's a good fan to buy this one's got really good pressure or whatever it is

99:30 Linus i see you never recommend this fan but it's got really good specs it performs really good usually um you know

99:36 i take sort of if i don't have anything nice to say i don't really say anything

99:39 at all approach about products um so if you see me recommending gelid wings

99:44 gentle typhoons air penetrators and what

99:48 was the last one i like oh right Noctua f series

99:51 if you see me recommending those just buy them

99:55 don't ask me if this other one is good because i'm going to be like it's okay

99:59 because it is it's probably fine it's a fan i mean it's a motor and like blades

100:03 and it moves air i mean it's not like rocket science

100:06 but there's usually a reason that i'm recommending a specific fan over

100:11 something else and i'm not okay i need to like make sure i'm not trashing on

100:15 noctu at all i love their fans i'm just not a huge fan of the uh

100:23 i'm not a huge fan of the color scheme that's all other than that they're absolutely amazing i mean some fans

100:28 really good specs really good noise um you know really good pressure

100:33 don't undervolt gracefully so what that means is they'll have some ticking or

100:37 some buzzing or some pwm noise ah that's

100:41 one sometimes fans if you control them with pwm they just

100:45 crap the bed and they hate it and they'll make whining noises like coil

100:49 wine so guys the fans i recommend

100:53 just buy them and be happy don't ask me about other ones

100:57 i think that's pretty much it thank you for the live tuning in tonight

101:01 look at that we i think we had 2 200 people at the peak tonight yes that's

101:05 very good i think that's is that a best i think that's a tie for the first time

101:08 i came on so what you're gonna just give all the credit to yourself now

101:12 no do i need to remind you this is called the Linus tech channel i was

101:16 using that as like a point in time how else am i supposed to suppose you're

101:20 fired that's three times he's so fired i think

101:23 that's four i don't know there's one one on the stairway yeah and then there's

101:27 one when we first started live stream and then no i fired you twice in the

101:30 last like 30 seconds oh yeah i don't remember they were separate they were

101:33 discreet firings okay so yeah four times all right actually

101:38 there's one more twitter question that i liked here i do have a 480

101:41 that was the one christopher really yes lick has a 480 yeah i have a 40. okay

101:45 c70 or half that go half xp uh max payne 3 also has top products as

101:51 recommended okay older generation can still why would you even ask a question

101:55 like that which older generation graphics card can still run modern games

101:58 like battlefield 3 good ones

102:02 my uh my 260 before i got rid of it in battlefield 3 but

102:06 would kind of get upset at certain points in time

102:09 if i mailed you a 2600 pro and a 6600 gt

102:14 would you send me a random card in return i wouldn't be random but it'd be

102:17 something crappier than those for sure let's do that trade

102:21 i love that i don't even have to commit to what i'm gonna send him could AMD go

102:26 bankrupt uh they'd get bought yeah

102:31 uh well we went over quite a bit tonight what we want AMD to do yeah we talked a

102:35 lot about Intel last week so i want to upgrade from 1156 and i can't decide

102:39 between 1155 or fm2 get 11.55

102:44 if one person yawns you at all yeah i know i do that so much i

102:47 built my first machine when i was 12 around my age then okay oh no okay well

102:53 here we're gonna we're gonna wrap up with this careful

102:58 just get ready to close it

103:04 okay that's not too bad it's not too inappropriate all right

103:08 good night everybody bye guys