hey you guys can you guys tell me how the audio is is the audio working fine
everybody gotta make sure
yeah that seems like a good idea right about now were you even streaming
no no no that's just me
uh i don't know where it's working it shows zero viewers oh no it's working it
takes a while it's like the youtube viewer where no one's used oh here we go
yeah yeah it just takes a little bit so i don't know where i copied that too
let's go ahead and move this here hold on guys i'm just trying to find the
uh the right file for
okay guys we have yep there we go that's the one i copied the wrong one before so
let's go ahead and paste that there and we're back yay
and yes slick shaved he doesn't look like a homeless person anymore
it's amazing that was disgusting man
it's just terrible it it definitely decreased your sex
appeal by at least 18 notches
i mean did you notice that no one on the live streams was even saying you were
hot anymore
i mean that should be all you need to know
okay hold on let me just make sure the focus is right so that we're not totally out of focus tonight are the scenes
working that looks about right right everyone says that's good is that good
oh no i'm done i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding no more technical
difficulties tonight we're all done with that all done with that
yeah all done with that how's that how's that should be pretty good
that's all right we still look pretty washed out i think but you look devilishly handsome but there's nothing
i can do about the lighting right now it's done
and i'm like super the white okay fine there's something i will do about the
landing because it's me but if it's a problem with you then i think you'll just have to live with it
yeah there we go all right so
welcome to the live stream you guys i'm at linustech on twitter he's at
somethingslickpc on twitter so you guys uh do feel free to
someone's asking us to remove all the moderators from your twitch chat and
reassign mods based on a screening process i'm tired of 12 year old mods
you know what that's probably not a bad idea um what do you think first order of
business once we get the forum up and running is get sort of forum contributors as
twitch mods as well as uh as being four mods because honestly i haven't even
been paying that close attention to what they've been doing have you i no no i
have no i have no idea no idea whatsoever i do have something really
cool so just before before we actually before we actually get started with
anything this is something that i've been incredibly excited about if you
guys follow me on twitter then you'll ow
i'm breaking everything if you guys follow me on twitter then you'll already
know about this but check this out this is a Thunderbolt enclosure
see there's Thunderbolt interface at the back there you guys can't really see it it's not in focus it's okay don't worry
about it there's three pci express slots in there so this is the magma 3t which
is a pci express Thunderbolt expansion box that i was hoping i could use to run
external graphics on a notebook or on oh here hold on yeah it's okay i got it
that's just a displayport cable i've been i've been trying things and trying
other things seeing if i can get a graphics card going with it so it's been suggested to
me that perhaps the
sort of camera should be not pointed at the back of that monitor there we go just move over a bit um
that if i try certain video cards or other video cards uh quadro 4000 was the
one where i was eventually told that i should uh i should be able to get it
working drivers in os 10 and there should be no
issues but i tried it obviously i don't have os 10
so i what
echo oh yeah the small echo was my headphones that i was using to make sure that the
sound was actually working this time because i don't actually have
speakers on this computer that i used to stream
because if i had speakers playing back everything then
you'd get an echo it works yay so why did i not notice the audio issue because
i didn't notice the audio issue because i have no idea i guess the real question
is why don't i ever notice the audio issue what's your theory
well the like incredible amount of times that you've left a stream open is kind of bad a
stream a stream in the background your own stream oh my own stream yeah
but but like that one i'm there because i'm trying to open the
twitch chat and then while i'm going there to open the twitch chat the
stream's not on so it doesn't occur to me and again because i don't have
any audio speakers on it like i don't i don't really
maybe the trick is getting like some closed headphones and then using those
to something or something we could have just something set up at the beginning
of any stream yeah like we could oh we could document
processes check this out check this out i created a video publication guide
here you can read through and you can actually do all those things now slick's
just as bad as me just so you guys know most of our editing mistakes are
actually made by him not by me and see look at no this has good stuff in it so
we're not gonna read it now or on a live stream i'll read it later
see this is the this is the kind of attitude i have to deal with
people who are supposed to be like helping me bring you guys the best tech
content on the interwebs and he's all like yeah i'll read it later but you
can't just ignore the current goal which is producing a live
stream which we're not really doing right now i'm producing a live stream
at the start it wasn't a very good one mind you
um so yeah i mean honestly i'm sorry guys i'm sorry for all the audio issues
uh right now part of the problem is that i'm either using the shotgun mic on
the one on the xa10 or i'm using the lapel mic on the xa10
it actually bewilders me how many people tell me to use a lapel mic in videos
where i am clearly wearing a lapel mic
have you seen that before yeah like and like and it wasn't even subtle
like i'm wearing like not a black t-shirt and it's like clipped in the
middle of a t-shirt and people are like what is you should really invest in a good lap i have a 700 lapel mic
the problem is that it's wireless and particularly in the old tech tips room a
little bit in the new tech tips room and not pretty much at all in this room
um there's some random interference and i've tried changing channels um but
every once in a while like i i've started putting some bloopers into some
of the videos that i've been editing because slick apparently can't be asked
to edit videos these days um and you see some of the horrible like
like noises that we get and they'll just destroy shots
like we've had to stop shooting because of it
so many times yeah it's ridiculous so the ones that you guys hear are a not as
bad as what we're usually dealing with and b i've also gone in in the video
editing process and i've taken that like frame or two frames and dialed the
volume down to like one-tenth so that
they're a lot less obnoxious and like you're
like yeah piercing that's the word i was
looking for um so yes i'm sorry for the audio issues
we're gonna figure out how to resolve it at some point part of the problem is
edsel's figuring out all of his finals right now and we don't have um we don't
have any help whatsoever and uh yeah things are things are bad
things are just sort of generally bad so
greg what's our first discussion
uh let me topic sorry well Intel
yeah okay well do we want to start that one before the youtubers
sort of tune in let me just see if we uh let me see if the announcement video is
live because i'm sure a lot of them saw the original announcement video and they
were like um yeah i guess
are we talking about ac rotors or i guess
oh that's not a bad one yeah yeah you know what let's give them a
couple minutes because i think the first comment on that is a minute ago
and so obviously you know did you guys know that every person who posts first
on one of my videos i personally email them and i send them a video card
that's why people keep doing it i can't think of another reason
what about the time you commented first well i sent myself you sent yourself a
video i don't know you got your 590. yeah i find a video card once in a while
and because i'm me i can game the system i can be like when's the really baller
video card coming and then i'll just be like oh it's night first nice you don't
even have to like make a fake account you just comb it first on your own account yeah on your own video and get
this i save on the shipping too right because then it's free yeah these
people live all over the place i mean i can just like this is how i ship myself
a video card i'm just like hey Linus you want a video card i'm like yeah why yes
okay it's okay it's only a uh what is this i
don't even know it's a 650 power edition it's okay all is well
don't worry about it it would be even better if you went to
the post office and then shipped it to yourself so you could like get a present
for the door i do love receiving parcels that is one
of the most satisfying things it's actually so awesome
remember you're you're okay this looks younger than me but i mean do you remember
getting letters no well okay i get letters from like my
grandma but i don't remember getting like a i don't just get letters from
friends well like it wasn't often but like when when you're like 10 and like
even when i got like a bank statement or something yeah like just when your
parents are like going through the mail and they're like oh this is for you yeah
yeah it's exciting yeah it's way better than email i hate email now
they just get like 30 a day email should just die in a fire
speaking of email that should die in a fire okay
do you know anyone who uses their isp's
email account like do you know anyone who actually
like my aunt for example not super tech savvy it's her name at shaw.ca
and i'm just like now what are you gonna do
i know someone who's super tech savvy that uses it because i was thinking
about this today like i don't know if you guys know this but your google
account is tied permanently to your youtube account
unless you have a much older account and you get grandfathered in in fact i
changed the youtube or the google account associated with ncix tech tips
at one point and i changed the one associated with minus tech tips at one
point because i was trying to get it integrated with adsense and something
something something but now i think they're locked in and the Techquickie
channel that i recently acquired i had to acquire the gmail account as well
and uh so so that got me thinking because i was thinking about this and i
was like um i actually recently bought a domain and i've set up an email for
myself under that domain more about that later by the way fascinating email i
just got from google um yeah like awesome so so i set that up
and i was like what if i forget to pay for this domain like i'll be stuck and
i'm like horrible it's not as bad as those guys are using their internet
service for fire i mean what if you actually used aol for
dial up back in the day or like my family we used sprint
my family actually used the email address sea lion one at sprint dot ca
and i'm like i mean at the time i didn't know that that was such a terrible idea but
i mean what does it say about you
i've never used an isp z motorist not once even when i was a kid i mean is
there my family didn't do this uh i bet they did i bet you
i bet your parents shared it yes they did way back you know what here's our
discussion topic and i'd love to take this to twitter you guys email best
practices things that just irk you like why is it that old people don't
understand that you don't forward chain chain letters well there's that uh oh
what is his name he makes comics
oh my goodness the oatmeal the oatmeal yes the oatmeal is amazing and i
go to the oatmeal.com right now yeah i promise it is not bikini clad women
fighting an oatmeal although that would be fine too
i mean it's the internet there's probably there's probably a sight for it
but um but he goes and talks about how like there's there's like pretty much
whatever email you have and you're in like the crap list and then there's the
people that have gmail and then there's the people that have their own domain
right okay so i i don't think i've seen that one it's pretty good i i do love
him although i still have a hotmail account right
but there's a legitimate reason for that i used msn a lot yeah back in the day
yeah um i like it's tied into like forum accounts
that are like eight years old yeah for really legacy stuff but usually you can
change the email that's attached to it you can but it's like just too much work
what am i gonna do i'm gonna go in and like change i moved everything to my new
gmail but i have a hotmail and i have a hotmail.com uk and i have a outlook i
have a hotmail.ca i have Linus sebastian hotmail.ca fca as well basically uh so
you're just domain squatting basically like yeah yeah i want my naming convention okay so
email best practices things that things that hurt you old people who don't
understand chain letters chain leaders in general health advice oh
like you know what i got from my aunt once
i'm sorry i know my aunt comes up a lot but she's probably one of the least tech
savvy people i know she actually sent me i swear i swear to
god this email had a 25 megabyte attachment it was a powerpoint
presentation of like pictures of adorable animals and
i'm just like this is the least
efficient possible distribution medium for this
why are you emailing this to me and she was just like i hope it made you and the
worst part is she'll actually call me like and like ask me if i read these
emails i'm just like no i did not read that email
because it's horrible my grandpa sends out a lot of chain
mails but then he doesn't send them to like my brother my dad or myself they'll
send them to my mom and then my mom will like filter through them and then just
pass forward the okay ones and that's actually okay but that's having like a
human filter on part of it right and human filter is not a bad thing i mean i
don't mind being someone's human filter like again my aunt oh man
i have a feeling i'm gonna be picking on her a lot here but from time to
time she'll get one of those ones that's like virus alert holy crap your entire
internet could be downloaded into the the hard drive of the mainframe and you
need to back up your data now and like that kind of stuff she'll forward it to
me she'll be like is this legit and invariably i'm like no and stop
using the internet please um
she figured out text messaging on her own at one point anyway let's let's go
to let's go to twitter and let's have a look at what you guys think are some
pretty irritating email best practices ah that's a good one okay yes will
miracle here squeeze over so we can both share the spotlight i don't think i'm
going to make um my ARM
yeah why are you so wide why are you so aware well it's because i have to move
closer to the camera the more i move over here but i'm obviously not okay
like that just well okay whatever just i don't think it's a big deal okay i'll do
q a or i'll do i'll do this okay so will says i hate when people have goofy email
addresses that they give up during a job email interview as someone who knows the
hr manager at ncis let me tell you if your email address on your resume is
like cutiepie69 at hotmail.com or something
you are not getting a job like call it discrimination call it whatever you want
you're they're not going to email you they're not going to type that into a
browser and send an email to that address not going to happen great one
will uh isaac says five pages with absolutely
no punctuation you know what that goes beyond email etiquette that is
internet etiquette i actually okay
that's etiquette no punctuation that's just life that's just rude yeah that's
just like rude and horrible and speaking of things that are rude and horrible
yay i got my remote control now um i mean i try not to tweet like
phenomenally stupid pms that people send me but did you did you get the one i
tweeted the other day oh it was awesome it was like there was
no punctuation it was about this long and the guy basically bought some core 2
duo or something and he was asking me if i could do an overclocking guide and
like a tutorial for like how to use like this motherboard and the CPU i'm just
like and then he wanted me to send email him the video once i was done making it and
i was just like oh dude okay for one thing subscribe i'm not emailing you
when i'm finished making a video like what am i going to do email 230 000
people every time i make a video i've never made videos
and then number two there was no punctuation and like it's like this old
stuff and i'm just like oh come on like come on man what am i what am i
supposed to do to help you with this to help you to on twitter sometimes i can
excuse little things like punctuation if you're hitting your character count if
like you need that one character where the period could be or the comma like
yes but if you're if it's a short one there are some that are still
inexcusable i will never accept da as a
shortened form of the yeah i agree no no i i actually ignore those tweets i won't
read them i'd rather squeeze words together and just capitalize the second
word yeah like i don't mind you for you i don't mind like uh you know bc for
because like there's there's ones that it's just like that's okay
but don't pretend to be a thug on the internet
because you aren't you're not a thug
and if you're a thug then please don't come for me
but i'd slick to defend me he's very large he played football once
for like eight years that's a long time to play football you
must have gotten really tired
um okay there's some general q a there i
hate when people get long emails free ah yes
we're getting really good ones tonight dylan says i hate when people receive a
page long email from you and they respond with okay or lol
that's rude and that you know what actually email i don't run into that as
much but i am like when you're having a long conversation with like your
girlfriend or your boyfriend or something is a perfect example where you
can tell like you'll be like having a conversation and then all of a sudden
you send them like this long drawn out thing and they're like lol and you're like you're watching a video on your
computer right now and they're like yeah one thing um i was
called out for that at one point in time um for just saying k way too much
even though like and uh one thing i did to actually make
it better was just i say right that's not better but a lot of people
don't pull that with me i do do you
it just you automatically perceive it's longer so you automatically is that why
you do kk instead of k kkk yeah you know what that one i noticed
of course that one's not really trying but like so that means it wasn't even worth
the effort to type five characters
because you were only willing to go for two of the same well no i say right when
i'm typing on a keyboard if i'm typing on my phone i say kk
because i usually type on my phone with one hand
is it twice today yeah twice twice today you've been fired
no that's a good one oh this is a great topic i love this
um my parents use isp i told them to stop
yeah i know i play way too many
why do we have so many emails combine them all into one you know what that's
actually something i'm guilty of i do that though kind of because okay i have
like a huge list of emails but they all port towards one my gmail and then
whenever i respond i respond as that email and everything so it's i use one
email so i don't do that because i don't know how and i could figure it out if i
took like 10 minutes but i just have it it takes no time i know i know i know so
so to be perfectly honest like for years now i've just been using my ncix email
as my primary email for everything oh but then which is which is same problem
which is which is way worse than an isp-based one
like way worse because with an isp at
least you could be like oh yeah i'm gonna cancel my service in six months and they'll you know figure everything
out or is it like if it's a job they can just turn off your
wow not only that but because ncix uses
google apps i have like google docs that have like
all my game cd keys and stuff that are tied to my hands
way to be a hypocrite i know no no i fixed it all recently
but i was doing that for the longest time and so people wouldn't know where
to email me because my personal email address is with my personal email
address but i never check it like by the time i cleaned it up like a few months
ago i had something like 7 000 unread emails
most of them were like newsletters from motorcycle gear shops and stuff like
nothing relevant and then i have ones that i've just opened and then used once
and then never looked at again and then i've got all of the actually no i legit
need a lot of email accounts because i have all of my gmail accounts that are
tied to youtube accounts right so how many people does that apply i have like
eight of them but like
not that many people have that many youtube accounts right
so uh so yeah that's that's a really good one people have too many email
accounts and you never know how to reach them all right i guess i'm screwed as mine as
i play way too many video games people who fanboy with things because their product is mainstream and his picture is
a character from league of legends and you're saying i don't think league
of legends is mainstream it's the most played game in history that doesn't make
it mainstream necessarily actually no no see this is no this is a good topic i
would if you need a jacket it's right there i'm fine i would make the argument
that mainstream is something like internet explorer
whereas internet explorer actually is not the number one in terms of market
share okay so i would say that again but the
default mobile if someone's gonna play at moba they're gonna okay
nhl 2012 is mainstream
but league of legends i would say is more of like a hardcore style game that
lots of people play okay but if you if you play pc games
because you're basically pulling out just console games right now okay hold on let me find a pc game for you
um
is nearly as mainstream as legal agents
okay hold on let me think of a mainstream piece of crap this is terrible i mean that's the state of pc
gaming you can't even come up with a mainstream pc game if you try
that's like just a pc game yeah
wow okay you're fine good thank you
completely different genre it doesn't matter we're talking we're talking yeah
but you can have a genre of movie that's like you can have like like you
can have an obscure action movie that lots of people watched like i would
argue blade runner is relatively is not mainstream even though lots of people
watch but pretty much everyone's heard of it so does that make it mainstream
no not necessarily i would say because okay here example of a mainstream movie
would be some something like dumb and dumber that is a mainstream movie so
tons of people have watched it so i guess it's like not necessarily but you but you but it's
like it's everyone's heard of legos it's not like jim carrey in it everyone's heard of league of legends
i guarantee you my wife hasn't heard of league of legends
not mainstream but she'll have heard of an nhl game
well it's freaking nhl game right but that's what she's heard of world of
warcraft
i wouldn't be too surprised if she has her legal legends is freaking nude you know
what we're for doing that
hey vaughn are you feeding the baby can you come here for a minute
thanks time you're gonna bring on camera uh she
doesn't have to go on camera okay just stand at the door if you don't
want to go on camera it can kind of see the door
no no it's okay if she doesn't come through the door that it should be fine i'll just stand here
i hope the audio still picks up okay from here are you scrolling through no no no no no
no no no no no no no no yeah we were getting good ones those are all the ones about the email thing okay uh here okay
so we have to settle a dispute okay uh have you heard of the game world of
warcraft can you talk loud so they can hear you
yes okay have you heard of the game league of legends yes
thanks for that why i lost
it's so ridiculously well known wait what hold on what
how could you possibly have heard of league of legends
no she heard slick talk about it that does not count that totally counts no it
doesn't that totally counts you're a total gamer nerd it doesn't matter so
the fact that you talk everyone knows a total gamer nerd oh no they don't do
they do no they don't do
i'm eating my mangoes okay let's find let's find some more uh oh yes when
people type every word with a capital letter that's the worst thing ever
yeah that's just wrong my grandpa does that oh at the beginning of
he means the beginning of every word yeah my grandpa just caps locks
absolutely everything no cap's luck is like it feels like he's yelling at me
that's terrible you know what's another one that irks me when people share emails
old people oh and facebook's oh my goodness like i don't care that
you just got married you're i don't care just keep yourself freaking
facebooks yes i know it's like
it's like combining email is like it's like the new like getting a joint bank
account yeah it's like no actually i sent an email to
like my guy friend part of this couple because that's who i
want to talk to that's who this email is relevant to that's what email is and
then i mean think of think of remember email
electronic mail when was the last time you addressed a letter to two people
that's anything other than a christmas card that's just a card or like an invitation it's called cc
oh that one drives me crazy okay i love
this topic of conversation and hopefully everyone else likes it as much as i do
but they seem to it's quite possible that they don't so
you know what you want to check the twitch chat really quick quick and just make sure they don't hate it it's one of
the uh
yeah yeah seems like it's all good can you make it go away now
thank you all right what else we got stuff people
hate about emails putting stupid email addresses on business cards yes you
should never that's that's right up there with resume have you seen it
though i have you get way more business cards than i did yes yeah oh i've seen
it particularly like uh like at ces there's always like
some weird guy running around who does like game casting or like um
you know like some weird media thing where it's like one guy or two guys and
they think it's like they think it's hip to have like an email address that's
like you know i don't care about authority at like theirdomain.com or like something
like that it's like it's a business card it's like professional yeah
although diesel had a mock-up business card that he created for our client that
was really cool that was really funny yeah what did what did it say on it i
don't remember what it all said but it was really good
it's i think it said on the first date i think it said like sometimes i don't eat people or
something like that it was it was just ridiculous but it was funny
and he wasn't being serious he wasn't handing me his business card like he was
like yeah i think this is funny
yeah yeah um okay so
what push pull can okay no we're not talking about that right now i got a new
email every five minutes p.m with in-law phone rings it's her
yeah yeah that's a good one
yeah funny pictures that were posted like a billion years ago
john paul's with me about his aunt
okay hey patrick call out shout out to you
for tuning in on your birthday awesome
and these aren't candies they're dried mangoes they're absolutely amazing but they're like 13 this is the first time i
bought them in like two years
um you know what i don't have any comments on the 8970 or the 89.90 we'll comment
when the embargo lifts once we've actually got the card in hand and we've
like tested it oh my goodness uh GeForce experience we
didn't talk about this uh last week did we have you heard of the GeForce experience
no oh i've been in like school zone for a
while uh you know the uh the internal code name for it at NVIDIA was the gf
experience wait for it
but anyway the GeForce experience or the gf experience is really cool so what it
does is it's basically like a driver download that babysits your entire
computer for you so think of it in terms of like an optional setting so it's not
the same conversation we had last week about like soldered cpus where it takes
the choice away it's an optional thing you don't have to install it
that will configure your system according to what CPU and what GPU you
have for every game and it will optimize the settings so
that you don't end up playing at a rubbish frame rate or with crap details
and 200 FPS because you don't know any better it automatically keeps your
drivers updated and it just makes all these changes
completely in the background without you knowing i remember going over to my little brother's house yeah exactly
that's what i was gonna bring up he has a gtx 275 and he was running some crap
call of duty game at 1680 by 1050 low
details because he didn't know any better i turned it all up for him he was
like whoa this looks way better now and that's what happens i think people
not configuring games properly is killing pc gaming is one of the things
that's killing pc gaming disagree or agree i could totally be
because a lot of people are worried about their FPS so they just crank it to the bottom and let it rip and people who
don't think the graphics on pc are better than the graphics on a console
just completely wrong which is completely wrong i mean even cod games
look better on a pc okay you gotta see i'll show you like after the live stream
or something some guy posted i'm not gonna necessarily say where but whatever
um skyrim after 100 mods and you download a hundred mods that
changed just like little tiny tweaks of how the graphics work
it's incredible like it's like hard to
reference that it's the same game just because the details are so freaking
amazing really and like he's like oh yeah i'm just for xbox right no pc but
he's got like he's like three i'm just kidding
he's got like a pretty sick rig and it pushes it pretty hard but it looks
incredible best looking game i've ever seen after skyrim after 100 mods which
is like that's a crazy amount of mods but still you can do it and that's the
other thing too is GeForce experience should be able to predict with a
reasonable degree of accuracy remember NVIDIA has like some kind of super
computer thing going on where it's capable of simulating any graphics card
any configuration do you know about this yeah i've heard of it yeah so
for those of you who don't know they have like this uber configuration that can just
emulate any computer ever and that's how they do their validation for graphics
drivers and for for testing things like GeForce experience to find out they can
run any game on this on any configuration and then they can just
create their own internal what makes it look best
and they actually do they have people hands-on tweaking it as well
which is really really cool um so they can they can predict with a
reasonable degree of accuracy how it's going to run and then what i'd love to
see for something like this in the future because remember out of everyone
who has more inves invested in the pc as a hardcore gaming platform than NVIDIA
yeah yeah for sure they don't even have a CPU
business to fall back on nope they have tegra now
but unlike AMD they've got gamers i mean they have
things like tesla but gamers are still what drives that
development of GeForce graphics cards of GeForce processors so
you look at them you go so what next generation maybe they figure out oh
you've got graphics horsepower to spare let's um you know let's
suggest some mods for you and then all of a sudden you could turn
this into a platform that not only optimizes your driver setting for a game
but actually optimizes the pc gaming experience so you don't so you never
have to deal with ever again something like launching a game
which then launches at 800 by 600 and you have to go manually like it doesn't
like properly detect it would be nice too because like not even for we're
talking about our own use but realistically you and me are probably
going to want to configure it ourselves i'll probably change it anyway because i yeah
i have a pretty crap tolerance for frame dips yeah so i won't be looking at
what's my FPS right now while i'm doing nothing i'll be like did i see it dip
crank everything back down and that'll be slightly different for me because in
in single player games i don't actually care quite as much i i want it to look
amazing still drives me crazy and then in like FPS games or multiplayer games i
usually drop quite a bit just so i never see a frame rate loss or anything like
that but then this is going to be awesome for like oh i just built the
computer for my buddy who wants to start playing
freaking whatever star citizen with me but is going to start playing everything
yep um i want to just load this piece of software and just forget about it and
he's going to be good like that'll be cool and this is the kind of thing that
really is going to be the future of how guys like NVIDIA and AMD are going to
differentiate themselves from each other because you look at what AMD's doing right now with never settle where you're
getting far cry 3 hitman absolution and
sleeping dogs with a high-end card plus
20 off the upcoming medal of honor game which is insane like seriously guys
if you don't have a high-end graphics card go buy a 7950 right now because it
comes with three games that are worth over a hundred dollars
in total like you could agree that's a hundred dollars they're both they're both 60 they're
all three of them no sleeping dogs i think is now 49. yeah the other two were
59. yeah so like crazy value and i think that the entire internet agrees that far
cry 3 is just outstanding it's amazing oh my goodness so that alone
if you're a gamer you should be playing that game right it's so much fun
yeah i don't know it's really good so so basically yeah go buy a 7950 right
now but on the other hand you look at what NVIDIA is doing where i think
they're bundling assassin's creed 3 and borderlands 2 which are both
legit enough titles um some cards okay yeah some cards and it
depends on the retailer like ncix i know has some cards that come with both
um so so they're doing that and then they're driving things like stereo 3d
which whether you like it or not stereo 3d is not going away i mean the
form of it might change but it's not going away and they have way
better support than AMD uh things like GeForce experience things like physx so
they're pushing like the technology and it'll be interesting to see which one
works out better in the long run
um but i don't have a clear answer for that so yeah GeForce experience i haven't
tried the beta yet and i've heard there are still some issues but
it's in beta and based on where NVIDIA like NVIDIA doesn't always do everything
perfect the first time i mean look at how long it's taken phys x to
have a serious impact on a game like like it does in borderlands 2 or in our
community well borderlands 2's kind of
it makes a difference yeah but they're whether you like how they're doing it or not
but the technology making a difference and then going through and manually
removing things for certain people okay so that's a whole other debate but the
i guess okay but something like GeForce experience i don't mind yeah because
it's not like an AMD card user is going to install GeForce experience which will
dial down all their settings although
they'll be hilarious they'll be so hilarious if they just like set all your
settings to minimum again and every NVIDIA fanboy on the entire
internet found a way to take every like
AMD card user's computer and secretly install the g4 experience on it
so the game just crashes and then like a legit looking error message comes up and
it's like it looks like you're not running a GeForce graphics card
and then there's like a link to buy one
not good not right
not how it needs to work
hey this is a really good point from jared i work for our country's largest
isp and i hate supporting isp mail it's
useless leave it to the pros and i think the problem with supporting isp mail is
the people who are using it more than anything else it's like how do
i integrate this into outlook express and they'll like call you right it's
like leave me alone
why are you using outlook express
my mom used to use outlook express okay i think we're down to uh we're down
to where we left off so does this have a page up oh it does no way
so cool oh my goodness look at all these emails this thing has a mouse on it
emails
you know what screw you you use that all the time well no i don't i only ever
used it as like a remote remember i opened the package for this right the
first day we recorded it on the thing
and that one's like an air mouse so you just go like this oh okay that stuff
okay okay uh you know what okay let's do some
more twitter q a for a little bit and then you get started with twitter q a
and then i'm going to go find i had a couple other topics i really wanted to
talk we still have to do the Intel one and Intel oh and ac and the new youtube
okay no we got lots of topics okay okay don't worry guys lots of topics now you
do twitter q a for a bit i'm hungry anyway go take my seat
i'll be back how do you even you guys have to tweet
me if he says anything rude or disrespectful about me while i'm gone
you can't read from there no i've really bad eggs
do you need your glasses i don't have them here i'll make do
sorry best onboard audio i've ever heard on a
laptop was probably the MSI ice powers called ice power uh dynaudio
dynaudio who's got ice power way better i don't know what ice power i don't
remember who has ice power but uh the MSI dynaudio one is like super legit way
better than anything else encountered i've never heard beats audio though
um i've got a friend at school that has one it isn't one of the high-end laptops
it's one of the more business-oriented laptops and i didn't really notice the
difference but it has like
bass on the bottom but like a sub yeah
but if i'm on my laptop i'm probably listening to headphones anyway so it
doesn't really help what do you mean it doesn't help
i'm having a subwoofer on the bottom oh oh okay well no but i mean it would help
if the audio chipset was better yeah no that's what i'm saying but i didn't
notice the difference but there's a cat
look at the camera ah this is not why i haven't actually
left yet right into the garage okay let's see no i do not think the
world will end i'm surprised that was actually a
question can you post skyrim thing video description
um i don't think i don't think we'll post it on youtube um but if people spam me on twitter so i
don't forget i will post a link to the guy's
blog or whatever it is that has the 100 mods because it's pretty epic i'm
planning that as a project over uh christmas break i want to set up my
skyrim with a hundred mods and just look at how ridiculously fantastic it is
um
getting get an ASUS zoner stx alex at
chickenwin that card is amazing i have 595's which
are pretty damn close to five nine eighths
and um we did some sound card testing and i
could tell a difference moving up to the zoner stx with most lower end headphones
i couldn't really tell the difference moving up to that high end of a sound card but
with something like five nine eights or five nine fives uh you can really tell
the difference uh when are you going to do promise
response time uh that response time video will happen
uh we're just really busy right now i'm in finals i've got
tons of finals next week um once that's over with we'll probably look into more
of the that style of content videos that we've
been talking about for a long time move into a lot of those
console and pc gamer rant i don't know um
there's reason for both and like the thing is it's pointless because
everyone likes their medium more because of x or y reason so there's no really
point in arguing with that person because they like it for whatever preference it is so just i don't know
let them enjoy it it's a video game we should all be happy gamers anyways
but oh
da da
downloaded GeForce experience today it actually worked pretty good with my games i can tell a different difference
that's pretty good to hear um i'm definitely going to look into
grabbing it and trying it out at least so that i can tell people my opinion on
it but again i'm going to final scenes so probably after that i'm 100 sure we'll
do a video on it when it's actually released we might even do a video on it while it's in beta not entirely sure
um
not entirely sure what you're talking about kearns knoll
mind doing a video about Windows 8 and steam shortcuts
i don't know new youtube later was horrible
oh my goodness i don't usually like the youtube layout changes um facebook
changes are usually all right but youtube layout changes i've never really
liked talking about youtube layout changes how'd you get on a topic without me
someone asked someone asked yep just because someone asked something now all
of a sudden we're gonna talk about it what do you think this is some kind of q a session yeah oh it's weird i'm on your
side it's like it's like now you look so
small
okay good
okay not to get into sort of too much while we look the same
you're so large not to get into too much detail but like
have you ever switched sides in the bed
oh yeah yeah it's weird right
no when Yvonne was pregnant she couldn't lay on one side or something because of
like the baby or something like it makes it so it can't breathe or like it's hard
sometimes like it blocks an artery or something like you have to sleep a certain way
during certain parts of the pregnancy i'm sorry if this is too much detail for you guys but um
like we had to switch sides and i was just like
sitting there in bed and i'm like whoa i don't understand how this works
okay here's another one have you ever you ever drink from the faucet like just
turn it on and just drink from it yeah okay pretend this is a faucet go ahead
drink from it okay try this tonight put your head the other
way i already know it's gonna be weird oh no
it's like you know how it's weird when you fold your hands the wrong way it's
ten times weirder than that because you like you'll be like
you're like you won't know how to i swear
go ahead you guys those of you watching the live stream
maybe after we have the youtube layout changes topic discussion but don't try
this go find a sink and put your head the wrong way because it's ridiculous
okay let's how far have you gotten into youtube layout changes i just started
okay just started youtube layout changes are the most ridiculous thing ever and
i'm gonna show you why yeah i'm sorry for that you guys uh oh
right no that's not what to do i understand why this isn't working
there we go all right so
number one your name is sending oh i'm not signed in you gotta be signed in for
it to be as horrible as it is well it's still horrible oh i know i i love how my
24 inch monitor has all this blank space here which is flipping brilliant
and uh oh what what account am i going to be able to sign into yeah they
justified left they just like shove everything lay off into the left uh i
don't think um i think i have two step on this
i don't care if they email me here i'm just gonna ignore it you guys just so you know i will not read your email i
don't even check this email actually going back to our multiple emails thing
yeah i use this email once for like contest submissions and he doesn't even
push emails to a different email so you will legitimately not get them yeah
legit won't get it you know it's actually really cool if
you want to throw away email address that actually will work like you can register on websites with it and stuff
um not go to not sharing my dot info it's
an actual website and you can sign up for email accounts that are
some random username at not sharing my dot info and their legitimate email
account so you can use them for like we might have a problem
oh never mind it's okay because i was thinking maybe that was
why this wasn't working because i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure
i'm entering the right password here
what the heck oh i entered the wrong username
here
there we go if you're tuning in now we'll be talking
about youtube ui very soon yeah very soon as soon as uh
here let me let me go get that code in the meantime you entertain do a dance or
something no
sing no
twitter one second guys sorry
i'm drinking both sides depending on where i oh i should probably move
hello you're back already yeah i'm good yeah i'm good why do you keep taking my chair
because it's like you're some kind of homeless person and all i have to do is
move away from my house for like two seconds and you like take it
imagine people just stole houses that would actually
that's the smartest thing ever why do we even make youtube videos let's just do
these houses yeah just flip houses that we do yeah
sounds legit uh okay
switch again cause this is weird it feels like i just switched sides in the bed with you
okay back to uh back to why the youtube is horrible now
all right sweet there we go let me just
check on twitch make sure we got our uh on x all right so what's horrible about
this number of things so now that i'm signed in you can see there's actually more blank space here which is amazing
i love the what to watch i actually went through this earlier today so it's got
my other channel it's got something from logan which is fine i got no problem
with that has some old video from logan which is like this is a couple months
old at this point i'm like okay how is this at the very top of my feed
um there was some other stupid stuff check this out my own video
recommended for me my own
video i mean you were in it like
guys that's actually hilarious i turned to them guys my own video recommended for me
brilliant right it's sort of your video too you were in
it but ridiculous okay so let's keep going like
i actually spent a fair bit of time playing with this today prepping this topic because it's just ridiculous so
you know channels that i have as like my recommended channels so it's kind of
like yeah i'm aware of this channel already like like i know about Linus cat
tips but thank you um wait what wrong thing there i hope oh
shoot see i can't uh i can't monitor
i can't monitor xsplit when we're there we go we should give you a second i know
i know we totally need one okay so there's some badminton videos that's fine but i'm subscribed to that and
check this out 10 months ago this video is from whoa
this is in the top of my what i should watch feed like is it paying attention
at all some ncis tech tips it's got stuff i've
watched already it knows i've watched it
and it's from two days ago and it's apparently way down here and
something um so yeah i think the worst part is
recommending me to watch my own video okay my least favorite thing okay look
on the left here my subscriptions yes if you go there and then you check where is
it uploads only okay it's already two full loads that i
have to go through and then if not now because audio issues and whatnot if you
click on a video and then go back it loses this preference and you have to
click on my subscribe here let's do it okay so we go back
unless i already fixed it unless they already fixed that hold on
my subscriptions uploads only so they must have already fixed it i did that
like immediately on rollout
okay okay hold on i've got i've got some good ones i've got some good ones okay
so when you go to the home page
where's the where where's the viral videos oh there you go so this is my home page
there you go if you go to the home page where
so you have to go like i don't know okay so where
where where are my viral videos you guys like where's the ray william johnson
video that's hot today where's the you know video about some world event that's
going on that's that's hot today that's true because the default menu is not my
subscriptions and the default menu is not even
even if it was my subscriptions that's terrible too because what if it's a
channel i'm not subscribed to what if i just want to see what's hot on youtube
right now oh oh and recommended channels is great so my top recommended channel
is gay penis which i clicked on just because i was
curious why is this recommended for me he has one video called ear rape and
it's just like a horrible noise and i'm like
doesn't he only have 674 yes
so how did that possibly be okay then there's my own channel
then there's something i don't know what this is tim mentioned i've watched a
bunch of his videos so that one's the one legit one check of tomorrow okay
legit i'm a tech guy so and then kerbal space program which it's like
irrelevant it's that stupid game that like you make yeah
yeah um so okay okay okay so there's that
there's that now get this so then there's my subscriptions which seems to
be broken too because it's not all the latest ones like i'm pretty sure
newegg tv has had more stuff in the last two days than that
um okay so fine
social get this so this is the most blatant horrible integration of google
plus that i've yet seen like gmail doesn't have anything like this
what the heck is this
like what is this i haven't looked at it no it's terrible basically it's just
random like google plus crap that if i really wanted to know if someone on my
google plus liked something on google plus on
youtube i would go to google plus and i would look at that like this is just just
blatant just blatant integration of
something nobody wants into something that everyone wants
and i mean i understand why they're doing it but well it's it's buried in a
sub menu though yes so at least it doesn't bug you meanwhile there's
fundamental stuff that's still broken this kills me this is what guys this is
why i hate youtube pms so check this out this is how many pms i get this is going
back to the fifth so in the last two days i've gotten this many pms
which is worse when i'm replying to them like when i reply to them they come in really
fast we're all the way back to the fourth now so 100 p.m in the last sort
of four or five days um that plus twitter plus email plus
everything just adds up so this is what i hate about this remember this is the
company that brought you gmail the conversation based email thread thing
okay why is it that here i'm gonna find
something that's a reply here why does this not have any other
information in it you can't expand you can't view other messages or anything so
guys don't message me on youtube
do not do it because what happens is i might reply to you and you'll say
something like hey Linus here's my configuration what video card should i
get to which i will reply 7770 for example and then you'll reply
back to me a few days later remember i've read another 80 youtube messages
alone by then let alone with something right and twitter messages and whatever
else but is my power supply enough for that and i'll be like guy i have no idea
what you're asking me i have no idea what power supply you have me so then i
have to send back another message typing out explaining that i'm not going
to be able to help you and then you have to send me another message and all of a sudden it turns
this is why we need a forum like then i'm just going to send like uh like a
copy paste reply to everyone who messages me join the form join the forum
join the forum because i can't manage this like it's
totally impossible uh and i think i just messed up but nope there we go okay by
the way forum's coming i need to at least like finish finals first
which are coming up soon once i finish finals work on the forum we'll start up
again okay so meanwhile they're not even fixing fundamental stuff like how broken
private messaging is oh yeah here's another good one this this is this is
freaking awesome so i think i have to go back to messages
uh yes contact notifications i have 1500 of
them watch what happens if i actually try to accept them
it only has that little bit yeah it adds like two or three or something and it's
like great thanks for that so that's broken comments shows me only a small
fraction of the actual comments that get posted on my video which is fine i guess
because it's unmanageable anyway
uh shared with you i totally ignore those um yeah so so ridiculous okay so back to
the homepage back to other things that are wrong uh watch later watch history right so i
can't find anything viral social i would have thought would have been like viral
stuff managed subscriptions is fine browse channels this is the kicker and
this is where it went from being annoyed to being mad
like okay here i cannot emphasize enough how mad i am
about what's about what you guys are about to see so get this so we've got a
whole bunch of different topics it's always been sorted by topic and it i
mean do you remember when there used to be awards like there was like top ten in canada or two that was really cool those
were really cool i liked those because i always wanted them but they were never accurate so i don't
know if i ever lived it actually won them like i was number one most viewed in canada
once and there's no way like there's just no way um
okay so we got recommended for you we got animation automotive beauty and
fashion oh really no way this is in alphabetical order
that is the worst way of sorting things ever oh i didn't even notice that before
that's terrible oh okay so top gear motor trend car and
driver these are all these all make sense beauty and fashion i have no idea which ones are the good ones
celebrities and gossip okay so we got ray william johnson there
film and entertainment we got ray william johnson there
lols and interwebs we got from william johnson
what category is he not in okay so there's that now get this
uh comedy doesn't have ray william johnson for some reason but does have
epic meal time which i would argue is not really very funny but is definitely
cooking and definitely not health okay so there's that
um there were some glaring omissions that i
noticed from tv gaming where is pewdiepie
isn't he the most like biggest person on youtube he is number 10 for most
subscribed on youtube he is number two for the gaming category behind only
machinima at this point okay he is the fastest grow i mean okay like
i can't watch his videos let me make that clear i'm not a bro oh okay not a
bro however
you can argue with results he is the fastest growing channel on youtube even
bigger than uh what's her name jenna marbles who is number two right now
and somehow youtube has overlooked him in
the gaming category where is he exactly there are channels here that have
literally one quarter to one eighth as many
subscribers as he does daily views for him is in the millions
like four or five million views per day and he somehow he's not a top featured
gaming channel let's say it's like okay that makes a lot of sense
um music okay you can say whatever you want about justin bieber and
where he should be there but he should be there he's the number one music
channel behind universal music like i actually pay attention to this stuff
where is justin bieber here not there
um okay now this is the part that okay here here here get this okay so it
should be noted that i'm on location canada and the results change a little
bit if i go to worldwide here's another glaring admission where's the usa
what you cannot manually select usa as a
location no it's not there trust me it is not
there okay so let's go worldwide just for
lulls actually oh no no no hold on oh shoot no
no let's go back i want to i want to stay i want to stay canada for now sorry
guys trust me i'm going somewhere with this i'm going i'm getting to the part that made me mad soon
okay canada uh here so back to canada all right so so
we've established that there seemed to be some omissions in terms of the
rankings of things so let's go back to ah tech
so i'm not here i can swallow that i guess
although this creators project thing with 43 000 subscribers seems kind of
sort of like it doesn't need to be there okay so i'm location canada where am i
where am i slick i just i'm not there i didn't know texila was
canada i don't think any of these things are canada i noticed all of google's
channels are here ijustine is very definitely not canada very definitely
not canada very soldier knows best is not very definitely not canada indeed um
you know what else is missing so they've got htc where's samsung mobile
we've got newegg.com which is clearly not canada so you could make the
argument okay so one of the things that was suggested to me was well Linus
you're logged in as yourself obviously it's not there and i went okay
where's mci xcom where's the other channel
but i am clearly not logged in as
and like you can say oh you're just complaining about your own thing but
there's a billion people here okay there's guys with like subscribers 39
000 subscribers here 39 000 41 000 i mean there was one that i was looking at
i forget which one it was um shoot i don't even remember but it was
one that's getting like like a thousand views a day like we're talking a channel
that is 100th the size of what i'm doing on one of my channels alone so well
about 1 200th of what they're doing together so i'm like okay where am i so
i kind of went okay well they've clearly got the regions all mixed up so let's go
ahead and change to location worldwide shall we
so this is how broken this is where's justin bieber where is
like where's pewdiepie they're in there by the way so now where am i
oh still not there we have stuff in here with 5 000 subscribers
there's a channel called samsung galaxy s2 with 5 000 subscribers that's in here
7 000 yes there are incredibly small channels
neither Linus tech tips nor nci xcom are
in here that's crazy isn't it
so i actually sent an email to partner support today i was just like oh guys i
couldn't help noticing that i'm i've been a youtube partner for like
you know three and a half four years now and my channel is not a recommended
channel under tech which is sort of clearly the category that i'm in
so yeah that's sort of that's that that was a shot through the heart because i'm
very sure that people use this to find channels so yeah so they've totally
screwed up the regionality they've totally screwed up as far as i can tell
the channels that are actually showing up here because like some of these i see
samsung mobile is here now now that we're here
apple's here google's here and i mean that's the thing about samsung too is
it's like i guess i guess i shouldn't necessarily be that butthurt about it
because if they left out samsung who's one of google's key partners like key
strategic partners for the future of Android
then it's it's probably not something where they were like oh yeah well that
line is techtube's guy i think we'll just pull him out but i think it's just that's how broken the algorithm is
i mean ray william johnson's in three different categories and i'm not in the
tech category that's like well what are you guys doing over there like well ray should
definitely be in a at least one but still but but only one
you don't get to be in like six different categories like so if i make
one video about makeup and i have 200 000 subscribers should i demand to be
under makeup because i have a bunch of subscribers like
i know it's ambiguous sometimes but jeez
i mean there's stuff in here that isn't tech the slo-mo guys is not a tech
channel and here it is it's listed under tech i don't understand how that makes any
sense whatsoever so there i hope that wasn't too boring for you
guys i hope you guys found it interesting that is my take on how
friggin broken youtube
new horrible horrible horrible layout is
here let's go to actually oh this is no this is another one oh
okay so we'll go look at an actual video now
pause thank you good work
um so we'll go look at an actual video
maximize there we go so we got all this blank space over here that's not that
bad i read the comments on my videos i really do i think a lot of youtubers
don't and i think they're missing out because i read them too yep it's a great
way to find out what the audience actually thinks of your content when i
click all comments do you like how much of my screen i'm
using now we're down to like a third
and on the monitor that i have that i usually read comments on it's 2560x1440
which means i'm using a quarter of the monitor because it just mashes
everything over to that corner and it's absolutely ridiculous
so yeah how much do i like the new youtube layout not not a whole huggy
huggy lot here sorry let's go ahead and kill that sorry
that ended up being like my tirade and not so much uh
not so much sort of a conversation between us but i'm sorry for that no no
that's fine but yeah i hadn't checked it out way too much so i was i'm i'm super
super mad ah
no okay is slick attacking i didn't know
what that meant until i had to ask one of my friends at school
um i'm not like i'm still not entirely
in full understanding of it but it means like huge fan of anime oh okay i watch
one i need to eat so go ahead you're gonna get a chair we'll switch sides in the
bed again i watched my warmed it for you which oh
god which as some people figured out from
some of the videos my background on my laptop um it's sword art online one of
my friends drew that picture that's why it's the background of my laptop but
anyways um so any constellation you came up first
page if it's any constellation you come up on
first page when you search for tech
search for tech okay so that i i don't know i didn't see
all i saw was the uh the recommended channels anyway i'm eating now so go
ahead you
gotta pay google to be there i've heard about search ranking stuff where you
have to pay them but i don't suspect that that guy with 5000 subscribers
got there because of that um unbox therapy was there
on international i don't think it was there in canada no not on international
yes international no canada even though he's based out of toronto right okay
what is the final platform for the forum uh v bulletin
yeah paid for it already when you guys were sending your recommendations so
we're not changing it now and v-bulletin's good we're going with
revolting um please talk about Intel already only
30 minutes left okay get started so i'll just bring it
up okay Intel released a statement saying that they will oh well i'm still
eating but whatever until released a statement saying that they're committed to lga
um although it was fairly kind of
airy it wasn't like down to the point like oh 1155
tier and 2011 tier will always be lga blah blah blah blah as we were all kind
of hoping it was more just there will always be a socket
so that could easily mean that exactly what we were saying before where
they're getting rid of the 1155 tier could happen
although i'd yeah explain tears
so there's we used to have one socket guys remember we used to have lga 775
lga 771 which was server only
now it's just like a workstation and really really high-end enthusiast which
is 2011 tier and then like average consumer average gamer not even average
gamer pretty much every gamer which is 1155 tier
and you know what they've done that very gracefully because when they first introduced the
dual socket system
they launched the new processors on 1366 and for quite a while
if you didn't want to buy 1366 enthusiast class platform you were still
stuck with 775. then finally
1156 rolled out and kind of caught up to the point where
they were very close and then over the last almost what four
or five years now Intel has slowly
de-emphasized having the gamers and enthusiasts on that higher end platform
to the point where when's the last time you saw a gaming rig
that's not like just sort of a because i can rig with like a
six core but like a properly optimized gaming rig that's got a 2011 motherboard
in it uh no one really because everyone that i
know if they're building a 2011 system and they're a gamer it's also because
they're like a programmer or a systems guy or something where they want to run
vms that's the main reason why i actually see people running 2011 boards
is because they want to run vms uh because all the RAM all the
additional processing power threads everything is really really helpful for vms
but yeah pretty much anyone i know that's like yeah i'm a gamer it's just a
155 which means that that really common
socket is still under threat realistically because Intel
hasn't completely cleared it AMD was like sockets all the way and they
released this huge press thing about how uh all the rumors surrounding Intel and
all that kind of stuff they just didn't care and we're always going to support the do-it-yourself enthusiast which is
awesome that's really cool um but Intel is still even though they released a
statement saying that they're dedicated to sockets i think
they were dedicated sockets anyways because if you move away from sockets
the big server guys are not really going to be okay with that well
like at all so they're still definitely gonna when
you look at super computer projects like um crap what's that one that just rolled
out all those teslas and then tech did an article about it
i don't know the name i don't remember but they didn't constantly swap them they upgraded all their cpus at the same
time yeah they have like guys whose job it is to just like
mass socket swap cpus so like
they weren't gonna just ditch it and they're basically just saying yeah we're
not gonna just completely ditch it but no total promises on the whole
idea so they could still roll out the 1155 tier and go with vga
but i would argue AMD didn't have any choice but to say that
i mean you look at how they behaved like yes they could kind of go like
rah-rah-rah we support overclockers we have unlocked
cpus we have this we have that but
okay look it back when they were riding high they had one unlocked CPU it cost a
thousand dollars okay um
you look at how long it took them to roll out that unlocking all the way down
i think what was the original i think it was a phenom x4 we finally
got a black edition yeah or wasn't it an original phantom what were the original
phantoms was there a 940 black i'm not sure
i think there might have been a night for i can't remember i i'm sorry i can't
remember but it took quite a while until we got to
the point where anything other than the flagship whatever price that was coming
in at was unlocked to where now every fx is
unlocked down all the way down to like 100 and whatever dollars yeah but that's
also a bit of theme yeah but it's a theme that they had to
implement yeah they didn't have a choice so i mean it's all fine and good for
them to say you know rob we're supporting the socket we're supporting overclocking and
modding and all that but what else can they say at this point
well oh discussion topic though and this
was something that i tweeted about already uh do you know what an athlon mp is
no oh okay can i take my last bite first yeah okay
should i ask them probably guys can i can i just do this they they said no
my hair is like hovering blue that's kind of gross actually
no no no no no
no that's disgusting we're gonna eat
move oh my goodness i need toilet paper that's actually how did you even find my
hands no but how did you manage to get all of
that all over your hand as i put the wrap down in the plate that
already had the drippings from the last wrap i ate so the outside of it was covered in
grease you know like you just after you make it you flip it over and then it doesn't
drip out i have no idea what you're talking about
don't worry about it okay
so yeah we all know AMD's sort of you know
hard times right now and all that and like okay jumping back a little bit you
can say yeah they had to say that but they still said it you can't just
completely devalue something because you see that
it was necessary yes i can if i have like that axe to your throat and i say
tell me you think i'm like hot and sexy and awesome and funny
and you say that do i believe you um
no i would argue AMD has an axe to their throat right now
have you seen their stock price no i'm sure it's horrible they're going to
be a penny stock in no time so yeah
they're come on still they've been taking that angle before it isn't
exactly new and like you're saying that unlock processor thing but that was a
whole market slow movement
until it was pretty slow with that too yeah they were slow about it but they
were selling plenty of cpus at the time like they when Intel rolled out k series
they didn't have to right whereas when AMD was doing it they
had to so who do i trust more inherently here right but it's also been a really
really long time yeah it took a long time okay right
so the artificial locking of multipliers goes right way back to the barton days
that was when AMD started doing it in fact early 2500 pluses were unlocked and
later 2500 pluses weren't when i resold my original my first diy computer i
built for myself had a 2500 plus and when i sold it i actually got more than
i paid for it because it was an older unlocked one and AMD had started locking
multipliers so guys in case you don't know this locking the multiplier is an
artificial thing that's done it is a it is a product differentiation strategy
that is allows them to sell something for more when the product actually isn't
any different so they're both they both do it and there's a lot of stuff that's
like that things like cash your 3930k
has just as much cash on it as a 3970x
but they've turned off some of it or it was defective or whatever else
okay so so multiplier unlocking
here's another artificial limitation so any CPU these days whether it's from
Intel or AMD has um has all of the the key communication bus
built right into the CPU whether it's you know a front side bus or a hyper
transport or a qpi or whatever else so
what they've been doing since before my
day so a little bit before athlon xp
is they've been artificially limiting the ability for two sockets and a
motherboard to communicate with each other so great examples of this are
things like skull trail things like evga
sr2 and srx where the only cpus that
work in these configurations are xeons
or the only cpus that work in a dual CPU configuration are opterons
and you know what i think it's time for us all to just call bs on that because
there's so many applications that scale well with cores now and i'm not talking
games no gaming here but 3d rendering
video editing after effects all this kind of stuff scales incredibly
well of course we can build awesome multi-core cpus these days that
have great single threaded performance and
we've got both AMD and Intel basically giving us the old
you know it's the wrong finger but you get the point um if we actually want to
just take two cpus on the cheap throw them in a machine and go okay i
don't care about single thread performance that much i want two lower
clock cpus and i want them to just be like
wicked fast for some kind of maybe i want to run a bunch of virtual machines
yeah i was especially just saying dedicating an entire CPU to like two
virtual machines would be amazing we have desktop platforms now that are
capable of 64 gigs of RAM i was running that in the one behind you if i could
throw two cpus in there for a total of 12 cores or even two cheap quad cores
for a total of eight cores like freaking awesome right that's like
what's that like eight gigs of RAM per core that you could run virtual machines
on that would bring back a like
weird performance scramble that we haven't really seen in
in like custom computers in a really long time right okay so the athlon mp
was a cheapo athlon CPU not a server
grade CPU that would actually had like a cheapo dual socket platform remember
this is socket a that was capable of running two cpus i
remember seeing one in london drugs before i was into diy when i thought
shopping at london drugs was a good idea for computer stuff
and it was just it occurred to me the other day it's like
okay well tdps are going down so in terms of board design limitations
it shouldn't really be anything that complicated because we don't have to
deal with these hot hot cpus anymore um
core counts and single threaded performance continue to go up
why not enable this if AMD like okay AMD needs to sell cpus
to enthusiasts which they can't do right now they need to sell more cpus which
they can't do right now they need to gain back some mind share with something
other than an empty press release about you know something that they had to say
anyway because realistically what were they gonna do it's like oh we're
committed to the socket because that's on their road map probably because they
didn't think of it first and and wait AMD actually only said until 2014.
so there you go and 2014 is i think when that's when
piledriver is supposed to last hope so they haven't even committed an am4
socket or anything like that until do the same thing yeah so if they
wanted to basically go look we care about this again
give us a multi-processor capable desktop platform why
not i don't know because a phenom 2 or
an fx rather an fx8 series is good
enough for gaming and from a single core perspective
whereas like any affordable xeon is clocked at like two 2.3 gigahertz like
it's slow whereas you could overclock these things
because they're f x's i mean they tried to do this with four by four or whatever
that ended up getting called yeah i don't remember
um it was four by four at first that dual fx dual core thing yeah um
but in in that case they made the platform so expensive and like the cpus
were so power hungry and blah blah blah blah blah like make it a cheap chipset
cheap chipset let guys like ASUS Gigabyte MSI come to market with cheapo
motherboards that can take two sockets it's fast enough for gaming and you
would just have like horsepower to just
throw at whatever you could you could never slow down that system you throw a
couple ssds in there and raid you throw a couple like wicked graphics cards in
there there is nothing that system couldn't do it would be a folding monster
i think i think the the reason why they don't is uh
maybe you get a rush in sales right away well it might hurt optron in the long
run but that's what i mean but then you've got that system that can do everything and you've got the problem
which we have right now we're already there oh i know but like we're already
there you would just make it worse though but at least they could sell two
cpus to every person who upgrades their computer instead of one right
we've got the problem where everyone is running a 260 or everyone is running an
8800 and they just don't care because it still runs everything like some guy
asked me i don't remember exactly what games he listed but he's like what
graphics card will run this this is this all fine i'm like
take your pick yeah whatever you want man i was like uh 260
because i know from personal experience because i used to run a 260. uh some guy
that comments on a lot of my stuff was named his graphics card and he's like
i've been running this forever and it runs everything and i'm like
yup like yeah good job but like
at the same time like okay cry engine three
ah i'm so excited for crying but the specs have been released i know what
about hardware sucks they do but everyone's like oh look at the minimum requirement it's not that high yeah but
realistically it's going to be trash okay absolutely
i mean have you run crisis one at minimum details it's horrible it looks
like halo one it's terrible and you still lag like crazy it doesn't
even matter like minimum spec
does not equate what you should actually be running at that's one thing i think
people don't really care about and what i love about that too this is the best
part is that the like the baller recommended spec
is maximum stuff which basically means
it doesn't exist because if there was something better they'd probably go with
that i think when crisis was released
it was uh and cryengine 3 is supposed to scale too right yes so if you throw in
like they're they're high-end performance ones they're like oh 680 or equivalent
um if you throw two in it's going to scale up so here guys this is what um this is
what crisis called for back when it was released so it asked for
ah minimum system requirements like a 6800
gt or greater 9800 pro it was asking for
which is like was not that great of a card back then and then recommended it
was asking for an 8 800 dts
640 which that would cry running that
game yes i had to get crushed i had 9800
gts running i had a Gigabyte 800 gts and i tried to run crisis and just
medium settings maybe not even anyway even on media and i was running 1080p so
on medium settings it like just boiled itself crashed so i am super hopeful no
crisis is free i mean people who are tweeting you they're like oh we saw the
crisis three specs and oh it doesn't look like it's gonna be oh yeah it's gonna be demanding
i'm super excited i can't wait until i need to upgrade that 480. and i love how
they have four different tiers it's like minimum something something like maximum
or and you're like even once you start getting into recommended it starts
asking for pretty good hardware so and
not to mention like there's going to be guys there's going to be mods for it in all likelihood if they're sticking to
what they said where it's going to be a proper pc title so yeah people are going
to find ways to amp up the textures and everything else well star citizen star
citizen so other servers modded all servers other games running the engine
could even bring more i mean remember this is just an FPS with some jungle or
something you want like a friggin universe running the engine you're
probably going to need some more horsepower well eve isn't that hard to run out of universe well yeah but it's
also not running cryengine 3. i agree
so and and i think the the action bits
i think the action bits of star citizen are going to be a little bit more intense than he played eve for years
yeah i believe we should all just yell at him he's good
he was good just because you can't handle it
rule you want he was good whatever man i've been thinking about
getting back into it oh no don't do it don't do it don't do it
no don't do it don't do it it's not worth it man you know you know
it's not worth it i know but i just you're gonna have a you're gonna have a
full-time job soon so
yeah okay we talked about Intel we talked
about the youtube layout um there was uh
ac ah wireless ac
so we were playing around with our first wireless ac
router and client in the tech tips lab today
and um well
how'd it go it's kind of terribly
yeah we tested a one Gigabyte file transfer
and it took uh
about thirty percent longer twenty percent longer took n plus a minute and
a half fourth and four fifty and four fifty
yeah okay yeah and four fifty it took a minute and a half on the same router on
the ac router yeah and then on ac it
took two minutes
it was like 158 or 159 or something like that so
this was an ac router that was 1200 ac 450n yeah
so in theory it should have been three times faster but we were using
what was our actual dongle 1200 or something right
so in theory 1200 so it should have been on three times faster almost oh yeah
almost almost two and a half times faster yeah um so that was not our
experience with it um so i guess the real question is is now
the time to upgrade to an ac router because bearing in mind that ac router
with maybe better clients are coming that will support like more clients are
coming because right now you almost can't buy anything with ac there's like some media bridges there's this one usb
adapter and that's another funny thing is like
pop quiz what is the maximum throughput of usb 2.
uh you don't remember do you is it 480 yeah 480 megabit per second so if i'm
going to be like yeah wireless ac i didn't realize you were asking me yeah
then you doesn't matter yeah ac 1200 megabit per second on a usb adapter
because it came with usb 2 which was just flabbergasting like
so so okay so like real clients i mean that might have been the problem i don't
know i don't think it was but i usually don't i don't it was slower it doesn't really
make any sense but there's a lot of overhead still yeah slower by 30 seconds on a scale of
two minutes okay that's pretty bad
okay um so so right better clients are probably
coming more clients are probably coming the router's obviously not crap because
those are pretty good end speeds if i recall correctly
um but
is right is now the time to upgrade because you can still get an ac router
that is a good an access point so if you're buying a new router today
do you buy ac personally no okay why
ea 4500. i know i know i know i know you
love the ea for i love the ef 4500. everyone should love the a45 it's like
200 so my black friday sale it was like
140. was it really i was really tempted that's a really good deal i know you
already have a 35 i know
don't just buy extra routers i didn't how many times
he wanted to buy a new keyboard just to have one that's loud and one that's
quiet i'm probably still going to ah you're killing me here um
okay well what if your phone supported ac which it doesn't i mean hopefully
phones are coming soon but then what um i'd want to see the actual effect of
throughput because if it's kind of like what we saw in the office then no
i had an interesting conversation with linksys where they basically said that
uh there was one out of a big box chain i'm not gonna say who it was but it was
like future shop best buy staples like it was one of those guys out of one out of a big box chain there was one store
that had their their return rate for tablets was like one-third of all the
other stores and when asked how the heck are you
getting people to keep their tablets because it's big box people just buy
this stuff and they're like oh Android i can't figure it out they take it back right um they were like oh well when
people come back we just ask them when's the last time you updated your router
and when they upgrade to an m router they have a way better experience with
it they don't find it so slow and they end up keeping them and um
my response to that was my iphone 4 has wireless n
and when i actually just do like oh my battery ran out because you people
tweeted me too much when i actually do just like a raw file transfer it peaks
around one megabyte 1.2 megabytes per second have you tested your galaxy s3 uh
if i'm transferring to my computer i do it through a cable to through because
it's better for your battery to charge your phone through your computer not a wall plug so i always charge it to my
computer anyways okay okay then
so would you say okay well fine so so right so one
megabyte per second what's that translate to in
sort of mega bit yeah so that's about eight megabits
which means even after all the overhead there's really no reason why wireless g
shouldn't be fast enough for that and i mean we're
the tablets back the tablets that i'm talking about is from like a year and a
half ago two years ago or like whenever whenever uh tegra 2 launched yeah so
whenever that was a year ago whatever so something something ago
and um i would make the argument a couple of
things so number one is that wireless g should have been plenty fast number two
is that there shouldn't have really been any processor in any tablet at that time that was that much faster than what's in
here well okay um to add to this argument maybe that's why
uh maybe that's a huge part of the reason why wrt 54g lasted so long with
better firmware right with tomato because people could make it good enough
right that's fine and g has really really good range too i know g has
amazing range that's another thing about ac ac relies on five gigahertz which
means less interference but actually less range as well yeah yeah and i
already drop wireless in my house using wireless n all the time if uh if you can
get in range though then five gigahertz is like
primo absolutely primo but you can get five gigahertz in
yeah which is what i'm running at home right now right so so that's not a strong argument for ac
either um so anyway i would make the argument that if i can only do one megabyte per
second sustained throughput on this guy over wireless and this is like at a
reasonable distance from my access point like i'm not right next to it but i'm
also not eight rooms over either i don't think there's anything yet in a
mobile hand held that's more what three times faster than this
so that would give us maximum like three megabytes per second
throughput and if you're getting three megs per second on your phone and we're
not talking artificial speed test i'm talking i'm actually downloading a file
from my server to my phone on wi-fi i wish i wish i had
more because i can't even really say anything because i haven't done like
actual legit file transfers right and i haven't timed any downloads over lte but
i've had stuff come down pretty freaking fast let's have let's have people on uh
let's have people on twitter see if they just totally disagree with me
no one's talking about it oh we can this is a good this is a good
q a question but we'll cover that one after so okay i would make the argument
that wireless ac will do absolutely nothing for phones because wireless n
like like wireless n one one antenna is
already 150 megabit so even if your phone is three times faster than this
one that means still you're talking 25
megabit or so real world is all you really need wait were you doing a file
transfer from your own pc yeah okay from my home server i just not the bottleneck
i wanna i wanna actually try this maybe we should do a video on it sometimes
because i haven't tried it at all with my phone so i don't really wanna comment
so i don't know i don't know what's gonna drive ac adoption because what
seems to me that people complain about for wireless is mostly range
um reliability so ac will address some reliability but you could just as easily
do that with the five gigabytes wireless n oh yeah
um and range is not going to be helped by ac
um speed would be another one but based on
our experience it's not there yet in terms of like the hardware we're also in
like draft pre-draft range yes so
and i mean the chipsets run so hot and consume so much power it's gonna be a
while before we see it properly implemented on like ultrabooks and and
phones which are the most wi-fi reliant platforms yeah um i would argue that the
processor in your phone and sometime in the next it'll take what
maybe another three four five years before it even remotely requires ac
speeds um
i mean it's not usually my thing minus tech tips to be like yeah you really
don't need this yeah um but when it comes to but at the same
time okay yeah we have to be realistic about it yeah um ac maybe not but at the
same time i think it is realistic for people to look into options like ea 4500
instead of their like random green stripe
kind of trashy rotor that they just buy because they think it's going to do the job like there is legitimately way
better experiences than you're having right now right because i'm sure most of people watching
do not have something like an ea 4500 and slick's coming from a very heavy
usage household i mean if it's like two people then you know what
use the stupid wireless router that came with your with your modem because who cares yeah
but i mean how many people are in your house right now we've got four people all of which are gamers uh there's a lot
of file transfers that happen a lot of watching streams a lot of gaming a lot
of and on a residential just normal internet connection your router actually
makes a huge huge difference yeah so any multi multi-person household i could see
it making a big difference yeah you know what let's wrap up with a little q a i
actually didn't realize it's almost 11 o'clock so oh well like wow
um so great question from fade why is it better to charge your battery over you
well okay they're they're all over usb but why is it better to charge your battery from your computer versus from
the ac wall outlet when when you plug your phone into the
wall compared to when you plug it into a computer you might notice that charge is slower that's actually a good thing
because when you trickle charge something it keeps its total capacity
for a longer period of time so over a year your total capacity of your battery
is going to go down but if you trickle charge it say through a computer which
isn't exactly trickle charging but it's more trickle charging than plugging it into a wall slower yeah it'll hold that
total capacity at least better than when you plug it into a wall if you're
playing into a wall all the time it's just throwing so much power at it at all
points in time that your total capacity actually there's grass for it online you
can look this up will kind of be okay for a little while but then we'll tank
really really hard now modern batteries handle it better yep than older
batteries but it's still a factor and something else this is just my sort of
common sense alarm going off i don't know if there's any validity to this but
um okay think about think about the power
that's being delivered over this medium so for usb you've got it going through
so you've got your ac power which is going into hopefully a ups
but probably not but into a computer power supply which has very strict
regulations in terms of the uh the voltage fluctuations and all of that
which is then going through your motherboard which is regulating again
you're getting five volts come hell or high water
to that device which charges off five volts now whether you bought an iphone
or a cheapo phone or a samsung phone the reality of it is that little power brick
you have they optimized it for two things space savings and cost someone in
xinjiang china or somewhere is making that adapter
at a spec of space and cost and not necessarily at a spec of exactly the
right output voltage or no fluctuation whatsoever a power supply
is an incredibly complex piece of electronics and think about it why is it
that your power supply for your computer costs a hundred dollars and this thing
costs like you know 30 cents to make which one is giving you
cleaner power to your sensitive electronic device i would argue probably
the computer yeah so i don't know if there's any truth to that but it's just
sort of it's just probably
uh okay i have the apple aluminum keyboard
oh people buying multiple keyboards for their acoustics
ashley craddick is there any good aftermarket air
coolers for the 7970 core edition um
you know what i really just don't recommend aftermarket graphics card
coolers anymore i really i would just block it yeah get a water block or get a
good graphics card in the first place
um you should use your own router the extreme computing that's a decent writer
i hate that it's not possible to just a page and post something just by typing
something and it will automatically find the box
what what i hate that is not possible to just
um okay moving along yeah angel if you could only use one os would you stay
with Windows 7 or Windows 8. you know what we did an episode today that's going to be up hopefully soon where we
added the start menu to Windows 8 and i thought i didn't miss it and then i was
sure i missed it and then i thought maybe i could get used to not having it and then we put it in and i was like
yeah this helps Windows 8 is snappier it has more
up-to-date functionality like storage spaces it's quick it's just better
and then you add start menu to it and the the one on nine night.com you can
add the xp the vista or the classic
start menu to it and you can change all the options it's very customizable you
can go to like what is it what's a little button called view all options or something yes and you get like two
complete rows of tabs that are full of
like customization it's kind of amazing it's really good yeah it's awesome
um people who played crisis 3 alpha must
not tell you anything about it but if they were allowed 7970 ultra 27 but if
they are interesting interesting point xavier
he's saying he can't tell us anything about the FPS but if he could
then that would be very surprising right um zone rdx for 20 bucks
about a one millimeter gap from the graphics card fan i would recommend finding another slot if you can
i've been thinking about getting back into eve as well
guys don't do it yeah cds barlow don't do it don't do it
uh gaelic gelled wings are awesome i use those on my front radiator in my system
and they undervolt really well yes zach okay
fine last last conversation topic fan specs that matter okay so cfm and
static pressure these are both important things um noise these are important things but
for me those take a secondary role to how
gracefully they undervolt remember there's a lot more to a fan's noise
signature it's noise characteristics than just how much noise it makes on a
decibel meter okay
think about that for a minute because if there's like an ee
versus a which one's more annoying if there's
like a very obnoxious whereas if it's just a
low hum those can both read exactly the same on a sound meter
but in actuality some of them are much more annoying than others that's why i'm
kind of a really big fan of chisel typhoons air
penetrators are good too i'm not yeah did you ever try your penetration no i did i did i really like them um
f series knocked up they're also very good yellowed wings i
cannot stand the beige and brown i love Noctua and like
nhd14s i put them in so many systems but then they're just
ah why are you beijing brown like they look okay in c70s because they give it
like a weird military camo kind of look and it's kind of cool
but other than that it's just like oh this is their old color scheme it
actually wasn't quite as bad that's not nearly as big this is uh this is from
back when their first heatsink launched before they even had a pressure fan so
it's more of a white and it's a darker brown whereas now it's kind of a ready
brown yeah and it's like it's like a kind of weirder beige too yeah yeah
they've actually done quite a few revisions on the colors i've seen them over the years they've changed a fair
bit but like air penetrators gentle typhoons all these like the sound that
you get from them even if it's even if it's a little bit loud like if you're
running some fast ones and you're not downvolting them or anything um
it's just like a whooshy air sound yeah like you
just kind of hear the airflow you don't necessarily hear a ticking or a buzz or
anything like that which is great and a lot of people ask me about like oh
what's a good fan to buy this one's got really good pressure or whatever it is
Linus i see you never recommend this fan but it's got really good specs it performs really good usually um you know
i take sort of if i don't have anything nice to say i don't really say anything
at all approach about products um so if you see me recommending gelid wings
gentle typhoons air penetrators and what
was the last one i like oh right Noctua f series
if you see me recommending those just buy them
don't ask me if this other one is good because i'm going to be like it's okay
because it is it's probably fine it's a fan i mean it's a motor and like blades
and it moves air i mean it's not like rocket science
but there's usually a reason that i'm recommending a specific fan over
something else and i'm not okay i need to like make sure i'm not trashing on
noctu at all i love their fans i'm just not a huge fan of the uh
i'm not a huge fan of the color scheme that's all other than that they're absolutely amazing i mean some fans
really good specs really good noise um you know really good pressure
don't undervolt gracefully so what that means is they'll have some ticking or
some buzzing or some pwm noise ah that's
one sometimes fans if you control them with pwm they just
crap the bed and they hate it and they'll make whining noises like coil
wine so guys the fans i recommend
just buy them and be happy don't ask me about other ones
i think that's pretty much it thank you for the live tuning in tonight
look at that we i think we had 2 200 people at the peak tonight yes that's
very good i think that's is that a best i think that's a tie for the first time
i came on so what you're gonna just give all the credit to yourself now
no do i need to remind you this is called the Linus tech channel i was
using that as like a point in time how else am i supposed to suppose you're
fired that's three times he's so fired i think
that's four i don't know there's one one on the stairway yeah and then there's
one when we first started live stream and then no i fired you twice in the
last like 30 seconds oh yeah i don't remember they were separate they were
discreet firings okay so yeah four times all right actually
there's one more twitter question that i liked here i do have a 480
that was the one christopher really yes lick has a 480 yeah i have a 40. okay
c70 or half that go half xp uh max payne 3 also has top products as
recommended okay older generation can still why would you even ask a question
like that which older generation graphics card can still run modern games
like battlefield 3 good ones
my uh my 260 before i got rid of it in battlefield 3 but
would kind of get upset at certain points in time
if i mailed you a 2600 pro and a 6600 gt
would you send me a random card in return i wouldn't be random but it'd be
something crappier than those for sure let's do that trade
i love that i don't even have to commit to what i'm gonna send him could AMD go
bankrupt uh they'd get bought yeah
uh well we went over quite a bit tonight what we want AMD to do yeah we talked a
lot about Intel last week so i want to upgrade from 1156 and i can't decide
between 1155 or fm2 get 11.55
if one person yawns you at all yeah i know i do that so much i
built my first machine when i was 12 around my age then okay oh no okay well
here we're gonna we're gonna wrap up with this careful
just get ready to close it
okay that's not too bad it's not too inappropriate all right
good night everybody bye guys