The WAN Show - More AMD Zen and Intel Kaby Lake News! - August 19th 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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Okay, welcome to the WAN Show. It is a
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beautiful Friday and I uh Well, it's hot. That's
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true. It's like super hot. Like look, I'm flush. I have done very little today
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and I am flush. That's cuz we're in like a warehouse. We don't really have
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ventilation. The most exercise that I got today actually was closely related
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to the most important news from today, which is that Malaysia's Lie Chong Way
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finally made it past China's Lindan in the So cheering was your most exercise.
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Yeah, that um Yep. So I was I was up
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early this morning watching uh watching watching that match. Oh man, absolutely
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epic. Absolutely epic. Lee Chongi finally passed Lindan. If you don't care
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about badminton, you'll have no idea who either of those people are, but trust me, they're great. I've never watched
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badminton. I know both of these people.
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Okay, that's not fair. I have watched Babon when you have showed me like a
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specific clip on your phone. Okay, well, I'll tell you what. I will show you. This is important because XYZ. I will
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show you another specific clip because it's very important. Very, very
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important. Lie Chongi's third match point. Okay. Yeah. Lindan makes probably
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the most epic save that I have seen at
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that level and it's it's incredible and uh then he goes on to win it. So it's
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great my man Lee Chong way all the way through. Anyway, sorry I will I will
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talk about technology now at some point. Do you want to do you want to go through topics? Okay, so basically we have AMD
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Zen and then we have oh my god AMD stock
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price in a good way this time which is
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good. Um, there was the IDF or Intel Developer Forum and even more Intel
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Developer Forum stuff. Basically, we're going to be talking about processing chips a lot. And we'll probably also
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talk about NVIDIA's launch of their 10 series notebook graphics
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cards. There's no M for mobile, but there could be an N for notebook. Wasn't
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that last
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week? I think
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it's Oh, no. That was this week. I just
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saw it last week. Okay.
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Oh, you're awful.
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You got to rub it in their face like that. I didn't even Oh, this like Aren't
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all these pre-released products that I'm always playing with just like old news
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and
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boring? Oh man. It's like, aren't you
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just like a total piece of crap to our loyal viewers? all like Yeah. See, this
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is your face. I got my head on the back of your neck and this is like the better
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position that I'm in all the time and this is like Yeah. Yeah. You like that?
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Oh man. Um All right. So, let's see. Wait, is did someone just tell me
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there's no couch in the intro? Oh, well, there's no Oh, he means there's no couch
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anymore. Wow. It took you just over a year to
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Yes, there it has. It has definitely
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been a long time since uh since that. All right, so why don't we jump right
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into our first topic here? The original article is from PC perspective. So this
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is a significantly more credible source
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than last week. Did you post this in the chat already? That's fine cuz I'm done.
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Oh, dang. Boom. You just got you just got schooled, son. Son.
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Yeah, son. That's what rappers do, right? I mean, sometimes. Yeah, sure.
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But like like this, right? I think you're like reversing the 8020 rule
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here. Oh, I don't know. You're putting in 80% of the effort and getting 20% of
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the results. Is that not how it works?
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All right. Speaking of 80% of the effort and 20% of the results, AMD. All right.
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So, no. Doing good things. Yes, they are
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doing good things. And when they do good things, we will notice that they do good
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things. And the good thing that they did this time is talking about actually
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doing a demo. So, this comes right on the heels of the WCCF tech leaked
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benchmarks from last week doing a demo where they showed off working Zen
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silicon running a benchmark. I mean, we're talking a benchmark. We are not
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talking many benchmarks across a you know variety of different use cases. um
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up against a Broadwell Echip, an unnamed
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Broadwell echip with eight cores and 16
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threads running at 3 gigahertz. It is
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speculated that this is a fixed clock 6TN00 K, though it wouldn't really
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matter if it was a Xeon at 3 GHz because
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they are the same thing. It's just easier to do it with a K chip because
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you can control the clock speed. Hooray
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processors. Uh, so they had identical speeds and claimed comparable
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configurations. Now, they didn't talk about like what motherboards were being ran. They didn't talk about what GPUs
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were being ran. They didn't talk about any of that kind of stuff. Just comparable configurations. 8 core 16
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threads for Zen, 8 core, 16 threads for Broadwell E. Both running at 3 GHz.
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That's all we know like boosts or turbo boosts or anything like that. Uh, it
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looks like has been left out of the picture. And then they only ran Blender
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and the Zen processor was faster than the Broadwell E chip in Blender by 1 to
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two secondsish and there was no official score screen shown.
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Okay. I'm assuming because there would be other information on the score screen that they don't want to show. Y so that
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actually makes sense. So there's I mean there's a number of reasons for that. They wouldn't want to show the Intel
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processor because then that constitutes like like a performance claim relative
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to a real competitor. There's going to be all kinds of like legal is going to
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want to look that up, down, and sideways. Make sure that they're not
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saying anything that they can later be sued for by Intel. In case you've ever
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wondered why, you know, car companies will be like competitor F and competitor
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B. It's really interesting, not to go on
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too much of a tangent, but like Hyundai right now is like attacking Honda super
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hardcore and being like, "Our car has this. this very specific car from Honda
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doesn't have this. And like it's weird because usually companies don't do that.
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Usually they shy away from that. Now my understanding is say competitors. Yeah.
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Competitors or or they would make it like like my my favorite is when they
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have like competitors and they put like the first letter and like the last
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letter and like asterisk the ones in between where it's obvious but it's kind
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of like the way that we censor on Linus Tech Tips where we're not we're not
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really trying to obscure the meaning. Yeah. We're just, you know, trying to
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make it so that I don't get angry from parents of kids who watch the show be
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like, "No, no, we we bleeped it. We just bleeped not even an entire letter."
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Yeah, we did our due diligence. Okay.
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Um like my understanding is it's actually pretty rare for that to turn
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into an actual like defamatory statement
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lawsuit. However, AMD is showing
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unreleased hardware and even internally at AMD. Okay. Dr. Sue, who is different
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from Dr. Seuss, by the way, uh, Lisa Sue, AMD Sue. Yeah. Uh, Dr. Sue probably
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doesn't know exactly what configuration
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Zen will ship in. So, let's say they discover at the last second that their
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yields will not allow them to hit a TDP
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that is competitive with Broadwelly at that clock speed. They have to lower the clock speed. Then if someone points back
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and says, "Hey, you showed official score screens that have like model
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numbers. You said you were faster. You're not faster in the shipping product." Now they got a problem. So I
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can understand their hesitance to be too upfront about any of this. Um, now Zen
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to jump back to the technology discussion being a hyperthreadingish
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thing. It's obviously not called hyperthreading. Intel TM TM.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, it's called simultaneous multi-threading,
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which which is the generic that's the tissue paper to the Kleenex sort of
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comparison. Yeah. SMT. SMT. It makes me
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think a lot of SMP. Anyways, don't worry about it. Um, it it utilizes high
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bandwidth and low latency caching systems and a 14 nanometer process from
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Global Foundaries. And they're claiming it has a 40% increase in IPC over
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excavator at equal energy per cycle consumption. Although
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We were We were both going there, weren't we? Yeah. It's a little old now.
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I mean, if Intel hadn't upgraded their processors in the last 5 years, they
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could claim they have a 40% improvement in Skylake performance. Yeah. Over the
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last thing that they they did because it's been so long. I would hope that
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there would be a very significant increase in IPC over excavator. So, I'm
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happy that there is. Yeah, a lot of this is coming down to I don't personally
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like AMD no pre-releas that's what our
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viewers seem to pre-release stuff and rumor stuff and I
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am very excited actually genuinely very excited to get this in office and like
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try it against things because if AMD if these things are true and especially on
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the slightly lower end or if this thing is considerably cheaper and can actually
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fight really well that is so good for markets in so many different ways. Wrap
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your brain around this. What? Okay,
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let's say you and I like got together. We We had a meeting, okay? And the
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meeting was like, "Okay, let's figure out what our next build blog is going to
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be." We're like, "Build guide. Okay, get this." We go, "Wow, AMD has a great
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value gaming chip that's really efficient and like has all the latest
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features. Let's do that."
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It hasn't happened in so long. I know, right? The reason why we haven't
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included AMD chips and things for so long is because where are they? There's it's
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where are they? And it's the 8350s were like super cool like a while ago. It's
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the sex appeal, too. like it's the fact that whether whether the whether the
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vocal minority likes it or not, if our goal over here is to be kind of like the
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top gear of PCs, then there's really there's really not
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many opportunities for us to feature AMD
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PCs. You'll see them on things like um value builds. So, we've done that in the
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last couple of years featuring AMD processors. Uh you'll see them in things
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like um let's see ah retro builds. So, I
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rebuilt my first gaming machine and I used an AMD processor for that. But the
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reality of it is is that if the idea is to be kind of like a Top Gear, you show
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off the best of the best. You show the Halo stuff, you show the jaw-dropping
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stuff that's like just straight cool factor, and you might show like a junker
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from time to time, which is exactly what we would do on something like a Scrapyard Wars where we take like really
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old hardware from AMD, NVIDIA, or Intel. We don't care. It's like it's old stuff
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and we kind of have fun with it. And then there's really not much room for
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that like that like yaris, you know.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the the economical, you know, hey, it's got the
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better onboard graphics than the competitor. Um but, you know, this is a
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this is a building that literally doesn't have a single machine in it that
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isn't a laptop that has onboard graphics. Um so it so it doesn't give us
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many opportunities. Even then, they're technically on board, but like they're
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usually separate. But this this is exciting because we as much as the Yarus
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doesn't excite me much. I could get pretty amped up about something like oh
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I'm gonna try and come up with something comparable and I'm not a car person so that makes it really tough. I I can get
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excited about a Prius. Okay, where we can go okay it's not like the cheapest
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possible thing to get you down the road but it's like fuel econ economical and
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it's got like some cool features and it's a good value. Yeah, I can get
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excited about that. So, I'm I am I am
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looking forward. I just like it even from raw a competition standpoint.
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Having good competition is a very good thing. And like Intel,
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I love you guys, but you're getting a little lazy. I wouldn't call it lazy. I
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would call it defocused. Yeah. Okay. Defocused on the desktop market. Yeah.
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Uh and I understand why. Not a lot of inspiration. There's basically nothing
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in it for them to keep innovating. What are they going to do? Go from 80
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whatever high percent market share or whatever it is that they're at right
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now. It's something ludicrous to are they going to get another 1%. Yeah. Like
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if they double their R&D, what are they going to get for it? Nothing. Whereas if
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AMD comes back, claws away some market
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share, and makes Intel fight for it to the point where it's like, okay, we're increasing our R&D spending by 60%. We
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need to improve the clock speed or IPC
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of the next generation or two generations away core processor by 30%
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in order to smack down this upstart. Like that's where innovation comes from
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because you have to understand that no one here is like is like just doing
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things out of love. Money turns the wheel. Any publicly traded company
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ultimately answers to its shareholders. And so if Intel doesn't have a single
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good reason on paper to really change
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much of anything other than making sure that they're leading the technology charge, which improves their uh which
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improves their margin, which improves their sales, like like they'll they'll
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keep refreshing the products. They'll keep improving, but they don't have a reason to like heavily invest and
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completely reinvent the wheel unless AMD gives them one. Yeah. So good
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competition is this looks hopeful. Yeah.
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And as much as we tease them, honestly, it's easier for me to tease them now in
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a situation where it really looks like it we the light is visible at the end of
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the tunnel. Totally. And it's not an oncoming train. Yeah. With that said,
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they've hurt me many times before and uh
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I don't With that said, at the same time, they've also done great things.
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They have. It's just been a long time. Yeah. So, one of my easily favorite
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computers that I've ever owned was a
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Athon X2. Like, have I made the battered wife analogy on Wow before where it's
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like AMD and I had the good times
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but then there's just they just kept
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they just kept beating me up. They they promised to bring you to uh Disneyland
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and then they didn't. And then they didn't. They promised me that Disneyland
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would be full of, you know, Phenom 2 overclocking and it wasn't. They They
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told you that the coolest thing ever was coming and that it was a rebranded SSD.
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That's right. There's been some disappointing times.
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This will hopefully not be one of them. Did we even make a video about that
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thing? I don't think so. Who was the actual Hold on. Who was the actual maker
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of of the AMD SD? I feel like it was Patriot or something. Patriot or OCZ or
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something? Uh AMD SSD. Wow. For a long
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time. Yeah. Hold on. Uh oh man. I I
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really wish I could remember what it was. I'm just going to Google it instead
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of checking. Someone in the chat is gonna tell us. Yeah, someone will tell
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us. OCZ. Okay. Yeah. Where without like
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It's really funny when companies do this. It's like this seems like a very first world problem, I'm sure. But from
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time to time, we'll have companies that instead of reaching out to us asking if
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we want to do a review, they'll just kind of put it in the mail and when it
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they'll time it so that like basically the moment that it's arriving, they'll
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like call and we'll be like, "Hi."
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They'll be like, "Yeah, so you've got the latest and greatest freaking
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unbelievable thing." We'll be like, "What? This?" And they're like, "Yeah,
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so for your review, are you going to do this?" that I'm like, I'm not reviewing
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this. This is this is the least exciting SSD on the face of the earth out of all
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the unexciting SSDs that have ever existed. This is probably the least
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exciting one. All you've done is put a sticker. You're AMD for crying out loud.
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You can't just put a sticker on things. You are a you design hardware. Don't
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don't put a sticker on something you didn't design. Especially an SSD. They
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didn't even rewrite the firmware. What? Like, it just the whole thing made
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absolutely no sense. I don't know if these do these still exist. Let's have a
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look. Maybe they do. Hold on. Let's Let's find out in real time. Look at that. They still do. And people buy
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them, which is which is great. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. That is
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really cheap. Wow. Then again, SSDs are just like
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cheap now. So, that's But um but the point was not that it was a bad product.
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It was just the world's least interesting product. And they and they
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resorted to pulling tricks like like us already having it and just being like,
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"Well, now you've already got it." hype train too. Yeah, it was it was a real
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hype train. That in the RAM, too. I think the RAM was preLMG. Um, so I was
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actually at NCIX when we got briefed on like AMD's exciting, bold strategy for
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rebranding Patriot. These two I remember getting these at the old studio. Here,
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hold on. I'll I'll share your screen. Okay. Were these Patriot? Yeah. Okay.
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So, that's where I got that confusion. Yeah. Yeah. Built by partner XYZ. Built
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by partner XYZ. So, in the case of the ones that I had anyway, it was uh it was
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Patriot Memory. I thought we might have even still had some of these lying around, but I went looking for them the
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other day and I couldn't find them. Oh, interesting. Anyway, so they were solid.
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We actually used them in like a fair amount of stuff. So, I'm approaching
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this tentatively, and I've said this before, but I feel like I'm going to be
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saying it on W show every week until Zen launches, so get used to it. I'm
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approaching it tentatively, but I feel like he might really take me to
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Disneyland this time. Maybe. It does kind of feel like it, right? does kind
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of feel and it really feels it's really different this time. He's going to take
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me to Disneyland. Oh, it's like what's that mark on your ARM? This is our last
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trip to Disneyland.
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Oh, I really hope it's true. And like the thing is this time instead of it
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being like mystery exciting product, it's like they're telling us what it
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They have some confidence and they're like telling us stuff about it instead of just being like, "It's great.
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Hooray." Chris 771 on Twitch chat says, "AMD soon to rebrand NVIDIA GPUs." Oh
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no, that was rude. Oh, that's not nice. Hey, their graphics cards are doing
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really good right now. 1 v1 Russ says, "Decide, is it Zed or is it
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Z?" It's both because we're Canadian,
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which means that we have no culture. Yep. We just borrow from the South and
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we borrow from the Brits and we don't know who we borrowed what from.
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It's kind of true. Sorry. It is what it is. I don't make the rules, my friends.
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My favorite thing was playing WoW because there was a raid in an instance
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and I called one of them ZG and I called
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the other one ZF and like but that made sense to me
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and that's that was their names and that's how it went. We just go with
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whatever sounds like like better, whatever sounds smoother. Yeah. Yeah.
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So, it's OCZ for me and it's WX, Y, and
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Z because it rhymes because now I know my ABCs. Fun fact, it's the same tune as
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Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star. Oh, it is. And there's something else,
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too. Um, can't remember what it is. Row, Row,
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Row Your Boat. No, no, not not that one. Uh, ABC, Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star.
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And there's like one other one other like like
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super Yeah, I can't remember, but it's actually not terribly
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important. Anyways, it sounds like other
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people have confident that confidence that we're actually going to Disneyland this time, too, because AMD's stock has
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just absolutely skyrocketed. So, I think
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in the last day it's gone up 11% and
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this year it's gone up 330%.
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Boom. Which is insane. That is so much. I remember when
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AMD was trading at like a buck or two. Yeah. I was actually even thinking about
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at the time I was like realistically it couldn't go any lower. Maybe I should
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just buy a bunch. But I mean OCZ became
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a penny stock before they went under. So, I was like, I don't know. Yeah.
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Yeah. Although OC whatever. Um, OCL is probably a
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little bit more of a volatile position than AMD is. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
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And I knew enough about the inner workings of OCZ to know that like that
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was well enough deserved at the time that that happened.
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Yeah. So, like that's also really cool because they need that really
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badly. They can't just have a really good product launch. They also need
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investor confidence and the fact that the investor confidence is coming before
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the really good product launch. Okay. Of Zen. I guess our graphics cards are
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doing super well as well. Yeah. They just don't really have that many of them
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right now and the ASPs are kind of low. And um sorry, I'll let you finish, but I
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have another comment on the graphics cards that
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you think you just butt into people's conversations because you're old now. It's not a conversation. You're sitting
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there talking out into the dark. No, cuz
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there's Twitch chat. They didn't ask you about this. That's not a conversation.
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Just saying things. That's it's not conversation. By that logic, I am an
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excellent conversationalist. So, wait, you can't have a conversation unless
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someone asks you about a topic. Well, there has to be a back and forth. That's
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a conversation. But they can they can respond. Yeah, but they won't. Yes, we
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did. Someone just said, "Yes, we did." "Yes, we did." You know what? You know what Nick says? "How does this show have
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sponsors?" says Nick Light. I don't know. It's his job to get them.
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I don't know how he does it. Um, see, look, the the the shocker says,
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"Luke, I asked you. Don't worry." See, he's got my back. All right. So, I want
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to move on to AMD's success uh with GPUs
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and into something that could have a significant impact on that reason
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success. So, you had you've tested the RX 480, you've tested the RX 470.
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Thoughts so far? We're giving it the thumbs up. Definitely. Definite thumbs
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up. Great. The the price differential between those two cards is a little
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weird. It does seem like a very crowded
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product stack, doesn't it? Yeah. But especially when you have partners that
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are trying to attack like it's the usual thing, right, where EVGA is the worst
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defender here. They've had I've seen them have up to like nine superc clocked
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for the win. K super super clock. Super super clock
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plus. It is freaking super clock ACX 2. It is
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freaking endless with those guys. Yeah. And when you have separate GPUs like
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architecturally different well not architecturally, okay, but like um
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actual like chip design different GPUs
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are the same 30 or 40 bucks of each other. There's not a lot of room for
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Sapphire to go like, "Yeah, it's the Nitro Plus RX 460 and it costs like as
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much as an RX 480 because then it's like, okay, well, I'm just going to buy
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the better one." Yes. So, like there's Yeah. Um any anyway, so other than that,
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looking pretty good. Looking pretty keen, you know, but NVIDIA went and
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dropped a bomb this week. If you want to actually post this one in the chat, I
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kind of skipped ahead to it. Yeah, I don't know where NVIDIA releases GeForce
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GTX 1060 3
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gig in a move that I personally find a
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little bit um misleading and confusing
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because the GTX 1060 while it is based on the same GPU or excuse me the GTX
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1060 3 gig Yeah, while it is based on the same GPU as the GTX 1060 you might
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want to drop that in chat which has six gigs of RAM but is called the GTX 1060.
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Yeah. Not the GTX 1066 gig. Yeah.
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Wait, I see now I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. It's not quite the same. It's not as fast.
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They've done more slightly slower. They yes they've done more than just take
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away some of the memory like we saw before with the 8800 GTS 320 and 8800
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GTS 640meg which were actually identical
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cards other than the difference in frame buffer. The reason presumably, this is
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just my guess, that they've done this is because otherwise there would be pretty
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much no reason for people to buy a GTX
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1060 brackets 6 GB. U then the reason
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for that being that the GTX 1060 is really not targeting 4K gaming or like
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ultrawide 1440p gaming or anything like that. And if you're gaming at 1080p or
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slightly above, 3 gigs of RAM is going
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to pretty much do you until it's time to upgrade to your next GPU. Something that
24:56
people who buy that bang for the buck 199 graphics card typically do. Which I
25:02
guess leads us pretty well into what makes the GTX 1063 gig somewhat scary
25:06
for AMD. It comes in at an MSRP of
25:09
$1.99. Yeah. So, it does have a VRAM
25:13
disadvantage, but it is based on the same architecture as a 1060. Now,
25:16
NVIDIA's not seing us a review sample. Um, but I don't know. Have we reached
25:21
out to anyone about getting one yet? Do we have a look at this? We have not.
25:24
I've been there's Okay, but at lower
25:28
before we go on for a little bit, what the hell GPU launches?
25:32
Yeah, I know. Stop. I mean, we've had viewers complain. We've had
25:37
conversations like like we sat down for like a monthly review meeting and we're
25:41
going like there are too many GPU videos and it's like well and like I get it but
25:47
then there's this and I need to do like VRAM testing to show that this thing's
25:52
okay and then there's a 460 that we like I think we have one and it's like oh my
25:57
god I have to make a review of that because then people are going to be like uh your name you're an NVIDIA fanboy cuz
26:01
you didn't make a 460 review and if you do it 3 months from now no one will care. No, but then like there's too many
26:07
videos. Oh, and then there's the X12 and Falcon
26:11
and I need to make that make sense, but those are confusing.
26:15
Actually, that's a pretty exciting video that should be coming pretty soon. We've been we actually had an entire hourlong
26:20
meeting on how to make an analogy to make the new PI new APIs kind of make
26:25
sense. And we never got there, but Luke says he has a new solution. So, yeah.
26:29
Yeah. Stay tuned. Anyway, if the 1060 in
26:34
spite of its slightly fewer functional units, so I'm going to go ahead and pull
26:37
up the anch article here. Again, thanks thanks Mr. Ryan Smith for compiling this
26:41
wonderful chart that I am outright taking from you so that I can show it to
26:45
my viewers, but it's okay. You can get more information from Mr. Smith's article, so you should go over there. I
26:49
did link it in the chat. H. So, aside from having fewer CUDA cores, fewer
26:54
texture units, um, it is clocked the
26:57
same, it has the same memory buds, bus width, uh, it has the same like I'm
27:03
interested in testing this. So, if this thing overclocks,
27:07
yeah, like a GTX 1066 gig, the 10%
27:10
performance advantage that NVIDIA quoted to us over RX 480 could stretch out
27:17
significantly. Dun. At the same time,
27:20
there's a pretty big flop difference. Yep. And like the more than 10% eight
27:25
fewer texture units is actually pretty large. And like the amount of CUDA core
27:30
difference is actually fairly substantial. So like it's going to be an
27:34
interesting test. I don't know. I really wish they had called it something else.
27:38
This is very frustrating for me. It and it really or that should have been the
27:42
1060 and then the 10 like okay.
27:46
Yeah. The 1066 gig should have been a 1060 Ti. So, what I was just going to
27:50
say was this smacks of one of two things. Intentional deception or
27:57
complete disorganization. And you know how you
28:00
and I were discussing our theory or your
28:03
theory. I won't take credit for your theory. your theory that the event in
28:07
London, the NVIDIA event in London was
28:10
intended to launch the uh 10 series
28:14
notebook uh GPUs as well as Titan X and
28:18
possibly this, but that they just jumped the gun. That was kind of the theory
28:22
that you had thrown at me because, okay, think about it. That that talk at
28:26
Stanford, like look at pictures of that room. That's a pretty random talk. Like
28:31
the people in there are important and the fact that that conversation happened
28:35
is good and important, but why launch a GPU there? It's really weird. And like I
28:40
got the email that Titan X launched like while I was driving to go get food and
28:45
the subject line was like
28:49
surprise. What? Where did this come from? So I have confirmation from NVIDIA
28:55
that is not the case. Okay. Uh the email
28:58
it was a one word email. Doesn't make it less weird. One word email. No,
29:02
actually, no. I think there was another line. It was like, no, that was never
29:06
the plan or something. Okay. It's like, okay, but but I still I still don't
29:11
really understand it. It still just feels kind of disjointed and dis
29:15
disorganized because I don't like I don't understand. And why are you
29:19
launching this now? You have everyone talking about the hype of all the the
29:24
mobile but without M awesome new GPUs and laptops thing that just happened.
29:30
And And I don't think NVIDIA is is
29:33
illinformed enough to be reacting to RX
29:37
480 with this. Like I think this this because it's actually okay. If this was
29:43
just a GTX 1060 card with less RAM on it
29:47
and a tweaked firmware to address less RAM, then I might go, "Oh, this is a
29:51
reaction move." But this is a different bin. This is a different bin of the GPU.
29:56
Yeah. So this was this was planned months ago. So if they're Well, we've
30:01
known because there's been rumors of a six gig for a while now versus a three
30:05
gig, you mean? Yeah, sorry. No, there's been rumors of a three gig. Sorry. Yeah.
30:09
Like it's this isn't a new concept. It's been floating around the internet for a
30:13
for a bit. So, it's just it's very frustrating um that that this is
30:19
confusing and I I feel like I'm turning into a broken record. But the it feels
30:24
like the more I criticize companies, whether it's uh Razer or whether it's um
30:30
actually I take a shot at HP in my upcoming Spectre video. Yeah. because
30:35
they actually have a product called the HP um ah shoot what was the HP Envy
30:42
Spectre from 2012 and I'm
30:47
like yes this is slightly different but it's really frustrating as just as just
30:52
a person who consumes technology like I was trying to look up an iFixit tearown
30:57
guide of the new Spectre so I searched for HP Spectre tearown or HP Spectre
31:02
disassembly HP Spectre internals And it's all the old one because that's
31:08
how SEO works. Like something that's been well established to be important
31:12
sits at the top of the search. Breaking Titan X. Just call it something else,
31:18
please. It is not a lot for me to ask.
31:22
And it feels like the more I I go drone
31:25
on and on about this, the worse it's getting. I actually was apparently, and
31:29
this is this is quite an honor, I'm very excited about it. I was apparently just
31:32
invited to join uh Razer CEO Minlang Tan
31:36
on stage at PAX. I actually have no idea
31:39
what it's about other than that I think it's something to do with Blade. Yeah,
31:43
which makes sense because Well, it's it's okay. Oh, do we know what it's
31:47
about? Like is it like Should we be talking about it though or is it a
31:50
surprise? I think we can. Let's just not
31:54
anyway. The point is I'm I'm joining him there because I love the product, but I
31:59
I I I'm saying it right now. I'm saying it right now. Heads up to the world. I
32:04
plan to criticize the Blade naming scheme while I'm on stage with him
32:08
because if I don't keep trumpeting this message, then no one will hear it. I
32:14
think he does it at this point just despite me personally.
32:18
Uh maybe knowing that guy. Yeah, that's
32:21
what I wasn't going to say that part, but that's exactly what I thought.
32:26
All right, let's do our first uh I'm so
32:30
shiny. It's really hot sweating right now. Uh let's do our first uh IDF
32:36
coverage here. So this is from or the original article here is from PC Purr.
32:40
I'm going to go ahead and drop this in the Twitch chat here. Boom. Let's pull
32:44
up the article. Our good buddy Ryan Shroud over there is talking about
32:48
Intel's Project Alloy that promises to
32:52
make my idea for how to make VR better
32:55
completely obsolete because apparently they're a bunch of
32:59
buttholes. Mean people they're they're taking my my whole idea and making it
33:04
completely irrelevant because their idea is better and designed by actual
33:09
engineers who know what they're doing. So, it's called Project Alloy, and it is
33:13
meant to enable a completely untethered
33:17
VR experience. It
33:20
utilizes, you guessed it, Intel processors and sensors, and it moves all
33:26
the necessary compute into the headset, including enough battery to power the
33:31
device for a typical session. The goal is to remove the need for a separate PC.
33:37
Now, this is not the first time that a chipmaker has demonstrated a working
33:41
prototype of something like this. And uh the first example was the AMD
33:47
Sulon. So, let's go ahead and pull that up. Uh okay, the article that we have
33:52
here is from RS
33:56
Technica. Come on, RS, you can do it.
33:59
There you go. That's the Sulon that had like an AMD. What was what was in that
34:04
thing? uh FX processor so bad FX APU
34:08
with R seven grade graphics so bad 8 gigs of DDR3 it was terrible why are
34:14
they doing this um well they're doing this because I guess the idea is that
34:20
while my idea of converting the three
34:23
wire tether into a single thin cable and moving some of the battery power for the
34:28
headset as well as the media converter for Thunderbolt to um for Thunderbolt to
34:32
HDMI and USB. Uh, while my idea is probably better for now, I don't know,
34:37
10 years from now, maybe. Sure. Assuming
34:42
Mo's law holds up. Yeah. But like I feel
34:46
like a wireless communication system while still talking to a separate
34:51
processing unit is going to be so much better because like, okay, I have used
34:55
the Sulong Q. It was actually, I didn't know you actually tried it. A
34:59
disgustingly horrible experience. Huh.
35:02
Like really bad. Remember Sulon's Cortex?
35:06
That's that company. Cortex. Remember when I went to went to CES? I think it
35:10
was in 2015. And I was all excited for this one company and I was going to go
35:13
see them first and I was super stoked cuz they were another competitor in the
35:17
VR scene. That's right. That was that seemed feels like it was forever ago. It
35:20
was This was an advancement. This was an advancement. Okay. But it was a horrible
35:25
experience to the point where they told me to come back because what I was
35:29
describing to them sounded like bugs. And then I came back and tried it again
35:33
and they're like, "Yeah, it's all fixed. Everything's good." And I'm like, "No, this is broken. This is such a terrible
35:38
experience." And the CEO is there being like, "Oh." And I'm like, "How are you
35:43
guys going to compete against Oculus and
35:46
Vive?" Well, Vive at the time was not really a thing. It was pretty crap. But
35:50
then came out and now it's the better one. So anyways, um, just to frame that,
35:55
the original Vive had a lot of problems. Yeah. Originally, he didn't talk to me
35:58
about Vive. No. At all. No, no. Yeah, that that took over that that came
36:03
later, but I'm I'm I'm following the horse that's running the race. So,
36:07
anyway, Intel demonstrated using your hands and other real world items to
36:11
interact with the world using real sense. So, the Sulon uses a a leap
36:16
sensor. Cool. And this is this is an
36:20
interesting this must be a comment from the article or something. Current implementation that was shown during the
36:24
keynote has promise but is currently this this is great. I I love this.
36:29
Shroud can be so tactful sometimes, but
36:32
is currently clunky and less than what PC per expected from the company.
36:38
Interesting. The current prototype headset looks, and this is another quote, pretty heavy, pretty
36:43
bulky. So, here's the problem, though. #
36:46
disappointed. Here's the problem, though. with trying to
36:51
move with trying to use wireless
36:54
communication to a base station the the the the gigabytes per
37:01
second there's a problem yeah of data unless you are using some kind of very
37:07
sophisticated compression which would be
37:10
highly visible very noticeable on a
37:14
screen that's supposed to be the size of your entire field of vision like until
37:19
the compression and decompression technology can be done instantly, which
37:24
right now we're not even close. Like even even GPU accelerated compression
37:28
like the best that NVIDIA and AMD and Intel can develop right now uh that
37:33
you're using for technologies like Steam and home streaming is not anywhere near
37:37
low latency enough for VR. So, we're talking uncompressed data streams, huge
37:43
amounts of data, and you have to somehow
37:47
beam it wirelessly without everyone in the house getting cancer. Yeah, that's
37:52
an important part. And I get all that, which is why I understand why they might
37:56
not be going that direction, at least now. And that's fine. Move the
37:59
processing onto your chest or your back
38:03
or your hips. I'd be interested to see
38:06
more like a suit. Yeah. like an entire wearable suit because you can make a
38:11
decently powerful computer that's like 8 lb. Yeah. H Okay, you heard it here
38:18
first. You heard it here first. Okay.
38:22
PCI Express bridge around the back to like the GPU that has direct open access
38:27
to to cooling and stuff. Motherboard mounted on the front with CPU power
38:32
supply like like battery packs around
38:35
the thighs. Yeah, cuz you could have like, you know, those stupid orange
38:39
pants I have that everyone comments on in every video that I watch. You could
38:42
have those kind of like lots of pockets and stuff on the side and have them
38:46
loaded with rechargeable batteries. This could be a very interesting project. You
38:51
know what's really funny is like I posted a picture on Twitter a little
38:56
while ago saying like, "Stay tuned for my VR backpack. This is unlike anything
39:00
you've ever seen." So many of the comments are like Carter
39:05
Digital did a video like that.
39:08
Okay, listen carefully. This is unlike
39:12
anything you've seen means that they
39:17
didn't. So there's a lot of different ways. There's a lot of different takes
39:22
on a VR backpack. Boom. Yeah. Yeah. And
39:27
I think this take the This is what I would prefer. This is what I've wanted
39:31
people to kind of work on because putting everything on your head is
39:36
so unnecessary. Yeah. And you get the sulong cortex where like okay the queue
39:41
is beyond that and whatever but it's the same concept and there's a lot of
39:44
weight. It's big in the front and it's big in the back and it doesn't work very
39:49
well. And like this is some pretty grade n physics lesson stuff here. But the
39:55
further the weight gets away from your body, the much much worse that weight
40:00
becomes on your neck. Whereas if you can take the weight and you can get it in
40:05
nice and tight like in a vest type form factor, I mean we could be looking at a
40:11
very very usable experience and like
40:15
Okay, so h with it on your Where was I
40:19
going with this? I had it for a second. uh with it on your head there's the
40:24
pain and it has to be a contained experience. So there's weight, pain, all
40:29
that kind of stuff. Contained experience. It doesn't feel very good. You're not going to be able to pack in
40:33
as much hardware for one cuz you could go like crazy like the left side of my
40:39
back has one graphics card, the other side of my back has another graphics card. Like ridiculousness. Or you could
40:44
just go with one. Doesn't matter. Like you could do either. Um, what you could
40:49
like What I'm saying is you're not that Why don't we water cool it while we're at it? Okay, why not? Let's do it. Uh,
40:54
what I'm saying is you're not that limited in the hardware that you
40:57
probably could, but you could you could put more stuff there, which is great
41:00
because you're dealing with like Atom processors or smaller stuff or whatever
41:04
when it's going on your head. That sucks and you're not going to get the performance that people actually want
41:08
right now in VR. Some people are concerned about heat, but I think with a
41:13
Skylake processor like a Core i5 6400 or
41:17
something like that, you whatever Intel might say about that, you've got enough
41:20
power to run VR games. It's just fine. Um, and that's like are you Oh, no. You
41:26
get something like a 6600T 35 watt TDP desktop chip and like
41:33
build a channeling thing. There's a different word for that. I screwed that
41:37
up. But build a channeling thing like 3D print something. A shroud. Shroud. There
41:40
we go. Uh to go over your CPU so it pushes all the air like down. Yep. Then
41:44
it won't be hot in front of you. It's not going to blow up into your face.
41:48
Um you can use uh Yeah. Oh man.
41:52
Lower style GPUs can shoot down your back. An ITX motherboard is actually not
41:57
that big. Yeah. No, it's not big at all. Like seriously, not that big. Like there
42:01
you go. Okay. Okay. Well, we are going to uh we're going to give this some more
42:05
thought offline. But there you have it, folks. You heard it here first. Um, but
42:10
anyway, sorry, one more thing before we move on. The thing that really sucks
42:14
about it is the coolest thing about Oculus right now is the headset is
42:18
really nice. Yep. And it's small and it's light and that's really good and
42:22
it's very noticeable between the two. Yep. Going to something where it's all
42:26
stored up there is so backwards. H. Anyways, sorry. All right.
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You you you get sucked into this show, you know, like the show sucks.
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We try to make it not suck. All right, next up, another WCCF tech article.
47:04
Intel KB Lake desktop lineup has been
47:09
leaked. Uh, i7 7700 K.
47:14
Yeah, that was that was difficult to predict. I sure as heck didn't see that.
47:18
You know what? Sometimes it is. That's true with things. That is true. I did
47:22
not see I did not see 6950X coming at
47:26
$1,700. You got me, Intel.
47:33
Good job. You pulled one over on me that
47:37
time. I didn't see that one coming. Oh,
47:40
and speaking of which, we do have a video for the people that asked for it,
47:44
which was a few, um, on a computer that's cheaper than a CPU, which is
47:50
really easy to do when the CPU is $1,700. That's right. We should have
47:53
done a computer cheaper than a CPU with my 22 core Zeon for the 44,000 40 $4,000
48:01
CPU. Yeah, not 40, but yeah, like you could have a computer and a laptop and a
48:05
new phone cheaper than a CPU. all your
48:08
electronics cheaper than a CPU. You know, people give us a lot of crap for
48:11
clickbait, but like trust me, if we wanted to clickbait,
48:16
we could clickbait. I actually have a great clickbait video coming very soon.
48:21
Oh my. Double, triple, or quadruple your internet speed. Oh yeah. No, that's
48:26
actually Except you actually can see. Yeah, that's we try to keep our
48:31
clickbait where like it's actually true usually and or where if there's a
48:37
question mark the answer isn't always no because there's that thing where like
48:41
when news articles do something with a question mark the answer is always no but we try to make it so that it's not
48:45
always no. So oh jeez what I will say
48:48
about this is that while the video most
48:52
assuredly contains a reference to Theojo, he's actually offered to provide
48:56
me with a custom video clip for it. Oh jeez. It is not a Fojo video. It is a
49:02
legitimate way. Well, isn't he doing actual tech stuff now? Like not troll
49:06
tech stuff? I think he has another channel which is like actual tech stuff.
49:11
Okay. I hadn't Theojo Tech. Theojo Tech. And I think this is like
49:16
actual legitimate stuff. Okay. Okay.
49:19
Yeah. Okay. Yep. It looks like these are real things and it's actually got
49:25
content. Xbox One S unboxing. like he's actually doing real things. But that
49:29
said, he definitely hasn't uh he definitely hasn't given up on the whole
49:34
complete nonsense seven hours ago. How to make money without working.
49:40
How to get an Xbox One S for free.
49:44
Uh probably my favorite my favorite one of his that I've ever looked at,
49:47
although I haven't looked at many, is this one. How to get free cable with all
49:51
the channels. It involves um taping
49:55
taping blank CDs to your coax cable,
49:58
being careful of the spacing because like science. Oh god.
50:05
So be sure to do it exactly like this. I mean
50:08
Oh jeez. What the hell? Yeah. Probably my
50:15
favorite thing about his videos is not his videos, but reading the comments
50:19
under his videos of people who are like, "Actually, I I have reason to believe
50:24
this wouldn't
50:27
work." No, really. Hey, are those the headphones
50:32
you're looking for? Uh, no. I found them. Brandon did have them, though. He
50:36
had two pairs. He had one pair signed out and he had the other pair on his
50:40
desk. He's like, "Oh, yeah. I noticed I had two." So, I put one on my desk. It's
50:45
just like how that one day when we were all going to like compete over that
50:48
mouse and then he just noticed that it happened to be plugged into his computer
50:51
already and just took it. Yeah. The MXM.
50:54
Yeah. I still have one on my desk cuz I
50:57
was going to review it. It has literally never been plugged in. Oh, what? Yeah. I
51:02
just I keep meaning to like review it, but I really like mo like I actually get
51:07
I I get the I get that really worrying
51:10
feels really cold but hot uh sensation
51:14
in my wrist if I use almost anything but
51:19
uh a Corsair um M40 or M45. Wow.
51:24
Even the additional weight of the M65,
51:27
even though it's the same shape, um it seems like it might be a combination of
51:31
the weight and the fact that I have to avoid the snipe button makes it less
51:35
comfortable for me. Like I haven't had wrist issues since I started using that
51:40
mouse. So, I'm just going to stick with it. I'm like I'm like Taran this way. I
51:45
actually have literally a pile that has a label next to it that says Linuses do
51:50
not touch of M45s on the shelf. Corsair was kind enough when I was like, "Yo, I
51:55
noticed the M45 is discontinued. This is
51:58
a big problem for me. Do you have any left?" They basically gathered up
52:04
everything that was in the office, put in a box, and sent it to me. I was like,
52:08
"Look, this is in your best interest because my mouse, whether on purpose or
52:13
by accident, appears on camera all the time. It is in your best interest for it
52:18
to be your mouse. But I can't have them. If they don't exist anymore, please send
52:23
me more. Yeah. So, they did it. All right. Let's talk about the uh let's
52:26
talk about the KB Lake rumors. There are 10 SKs detailed in the leak. Uh the
52:31
mainstream desktop chips will be slightly delayed to early 2017 with
52:35
mobile processors set to arrive as soon as possible. And the mainstream chips
52:39
will use LGA1 1151, the same soccer as
52:43
Skylake, which is actually kind of cool.
52:46
Um it is revealed that the mobile chips are already shipping to OEMs. Oh wow. Um
52:53
and it is revealed that KBL X so the
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HEDT high high wait HE high-end that's
53:00
right high-end desktop desktop. Yeah, high-end desktop will utilize LGA
53:06
2066 the same as Skylake
53:10
X. Um there's some like specific
53:13
processor spec stuff. There's a lot of it. So, chipset will change to 200
53:18
series. There will be no compatibility with older generation motherboards. Ah,
53:22
and the Core i7 sey700 K will be yet another quad core with a 95 watt TDP
53:28
compared to 91 watts. A higher base clock, so 4.2 versus 4.0 GHz with boost
53:33
to 4.5 versus 4.4. Plus the presumable
53:37
uh architectural improvements, though this is still not exactly like the
53:41
world's most doesn't seem like leaps and bounds exciting thing ever. Yeah. Um,
53:44
the Core i5 7600 K will be a quad core with no hyperthreading. Didn't see that
53:48
one coming. Um, the 7700 will actually
53:52
have a significantly lower base clock than the K variant this time around at
53:56
3.6 allegedly, although it'll have a much lower TDP. So, they're actually
54:00
going mainstream with the not K one. And they are giving enthusiasts a
54:04
significant performance bump for being enthusiasts and buying a K whether
54:08
they're overclocking or not. Although another way of looking at that is that
54:11
they are taking away how close the 6700
54:14
K was to the 6700 and making it not as
54:18
close anymore. Yeah. So that more people will buy the more expensive one. Yes. Um
54:23
because money the T chips are going to have 35 watt TDPs apparently. Uh I
54:28
actually just recently worked on a pretty cool what Intel CPU to buy uh
54:33
article. So that's coming up soon. And it looks like the T chips, while they're
54:36
all going to be within that same TDP range, um, are going to be significantly
54:40
higher clock speeds or are going to be available with significantly higher
54:44
clock speeds. Although I don't know anything about boost clocks right now.
54:47
It is speculated that we'll see the usual 5 to 10% per core performance
54:51
improvement over the previous generation with key features to include 30 Hz 5K
54:56
support on one display and 5K 60 Hz with
55:00
dual interface um with dual interfaces,
55:04
HEVC 10bit hardware decoding, um 4K blah
55:09
blah blah support for Thunderbolt 3, etc. So, not necessarily the most
55:14
exciting thing. Nope. But it'll be faster and it'll be like the same price
55:18
as the outgoing chips, so you'll buy it. And this is why we need Zen to do really
55:24
well. Yeah. All right. The Logitech Gro
55:28
gaming mouse designed with and for professional esports player. I always
55:32
get a kick out of this when this is like the headline from a gaming peripheral
55:38
company. Designed in collaboration with professional esports player. Designed
55:42
for professional gamers. But Logitech, I actually had a
55:46
conference call with them about this. I decided not to do a review because I am
55:49
just straight up not qualified to test it. Um, well, Ed's not doing it. Ed kind
55:56
of went, "Yeah, this is a legitimately
55:59
good product by the look of things, but
56:02
he doesn't think that it's uh that it that it gets a spot on the review
56:06
calendar right now cuz it's not like nothing fundamentally new. Basically
56:11
what they've done is they've taken a shape that professional gamers loved uh
56:17
which is the what is it the G
56:21
uh G303 or whatever it is or it's G100
56:25
something whatever they've taken a shape G100S there we go that's the one sorry I
56:29
was I was struggling because it's all just G's and numbers so they've taken a
56:33
shape that gamers love the G100S and
56:37
then they've put their uh PMW 33 366
56:41
sensor, the same one that's used in the G502 and the G900 inside it. They've
56:46
optimized the weight, making it basically a good shape, top-of-the-line
56:52
sensor, like final mouse competitor, ultra light mouse. 69 bucks. 69 bucks
56:58
for the top-of-the-line sensor. Hyper lightweight. I should make a video on
57:02
like all the best products at $69. Actually, it's a kind of because
57:06
actually Okay, there's the P400 immature buyer guide. Yeah. Can you build a
57:11
computer with all products that cost $69?
57:15
And how good is it? Could you? You probably could. RAM would be doable.
57:19
Drive doable. Motherboard case, mouse.
57:23
Intel has CPUs in that range. AMD does, too.
57:27
I mean, monitor would be tough. So would GPU. You could get a monitor, though.
57:30
You could get a video card for $69. It just wouldn't be very good. Well, same
57:34
with monitor. Yeah, you might actually be able to get a 1080p monitor for 69
57:37
bucks and you could enjoy all the 1080pness. Should I do this? Should I
57:41
actually do this? That's actually like not the worst idea we've ever had. This is a good W show. We're like coming up
57:46
with some pretty good video ideas here. Um, so basically this is the mouse. This
57:51
is like the mystery mouse that a handful of pro gamers have been actually using
57:55
to compete and on streams for quite some time, but haven't been able to talk
58:00
about. Um, looks like the bomb looks
58:03
like it's going to sell a metric butt ton. And uh, kudos to Logitech for
58:07
listening to their listening to their customers and listening to their pro gamers because as much as I'm mocking
58:12
them a little bit here for advertising it as like to help co-design by pro
58:16
gamer, Logitech actually does seem to take that seriously and they actually do
58:21
seem to do it. So you when I was when I was there checking out the G900, there
58:24
was a lot of like you know we wanted to do this thing
58:29
but then like so and so from the
58:33
sponsored team was like no it has to be this way and then like they pushed us to
58:37
do this thing or that thing and these were the engineers talking where
58:41
honestly usually when I go talk to different companies the way that I get
58:45
like the insider information that the PR guys don't want to talk about is just
58:48
talk to the engineers because they don't really have a the greatest
58:52
filter. Usually they just kind of say stuff which is great. That's perfect for
58:57
me. So like I don't know, they actually do seem to care which is
59:01
good. All right.
59:05
Um, Global Foundaries to skip 10
59:08
nanometer. We're getting into our rapidfire topics here. To skip 10
59:12
nanometer and jump straight to 7
59:15
nanometer. So they are I guess that's
59:18
pretty much all there is to say about it. They're currently operating on 14
59:22
nanometer finfet and they in 2015 they
59:27
acquired semiconductor manufacturing assets from IBM and is using them to
59:30
fasttrack their 7 nanometer progression.
59:34
$69 monitors possible. I should totally do that build guide. 1080p 19inch
59:38
widescreen from VSic. Ultimate 69 PC.
59:43
Yeah.
59:46
I have to spray paint like a blue six and a pink nine on the side of it.
59:50
Terrible. All right, speaking of terrible, uh, Indiegogo campaign the Oh,
59:58
oh, okay, that's probably it. Uh,
60:03
okay. Oh,
60:09
okay. You're welcome. All I did was
60:12
click a link. Okay.
60:17
All right. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to get one of these. Oh, really? Yeah.
60:22
V Live, the smart shorts that boost your
60:26
manhood. Well, we have actually covered
60:29
something very similar to this on the WAN Show before. That one was an
60:34
insertion device that was for female
60:37
Keele exercises. Well, pelvic floor exercises for males are pretty much the
60:43
same thing. I don't know if they're still called Keigull. I think they are,
60:46
but basically, yes, you squeeze, you know, the squeeze bear. And uh they're
60:51
trying to gify it to improve sexual performance and sexual health for men.
60:56
And you can back this if you want to
60:59
have one of these. Blood flow to the region is just good for your overall
61:03
health, even if it's not for sexual reasons. Just to clarify. Yep. I wonder
61:08
if it makes me look like this guy.
61:13
So, it comes with an instructional app, a wireless tracker, and sensor embedded
61:18
shorts. These shorts may actually improve your sex life, says the
61:22
Huffington Post. These smart shorts will make your soda bottle explode, says The
61:26
Verge. Great. Someone was having fun uh
61:30
someone was having fun writing those uh writing those those
61:34
quotes. So, there you go. Anytime, anywhere, Vive V helps you monitor your
61:40
pelvic fitness. part of their video when he's driving the beamer is
61:45
hilarious. I just have to say that they have a whole video and he's he has this
61:49
beamer and the the lights keep on doing this like super suggestive
61:55
thing. It's really funny. All right, so
61:58
there you go. I don't know what a review of that will look like or if it'll how
62:02
how safe for audience members under 13 it'll be, but it can't be any worse than
62:06
the how to hide your porn video. So, I greenlighted that. I guess I'm greenlighting this.
62:12
Hydrop porn video was literally your idea. I think I think so. But it was
62:16
like back to like the NCIX days. Very
62:19
long time ago, but I I think it was your idea. You know what? For all the hate on
62:24
that video, we were okay. We were talking about how I really like True Crypt back in the day. And then you
62:29
brought up the idea of actually For all the hate on that video, it's the second hit for how to hide your how to hide
62:33
your porn on Google and has over a million views now. has been like the and
62:39
like the like to dislike bar used to be horrible and now it's bad, but it's not
62:44
nearly as horrible. I just almost reported our video. That's not what I meant. Oh my. Don't pull a Colton. No, I
62:49
meant to uh I meant to look at the statistics.
62:52
Um yeah, look at that. Like it it it gets jumps in views. What? That must be
62:58
where it hit that search ranking. Okay,
63:01
that's probably it. I wonder if it coincides with like
63:05
seven years of time have been spent watching you basically fool around
63:09
suggestively on camera. Seven years of human life.
63:15
People really like porn. And on that note, thank you very much for tuning in
63:18
to this week's WAN Show. Uh we will see
63:22
you guys again next week. Same bat time, same bat channel. Have fun. What a show.
63:32
Have fun in your
63:37
box. I was up early. I've been waking up
63:45
since I
63:58
actually Yeah.
64:01
But you could do them in the morning, right? But I never trust myself and I
64:06
don't know when I'm actually going to be done. So like if it's, oh, I go to bed at 6:00 and then it's 3 hours before
64:10
work. Yeah. So theoretically, if I just don't do this tonight and I do it in the
64:14
morning, it's all good. But what if it takes more than three hours? Yeah.
64:17
Exactly. You can stay up all night. You can't stay up all morning. Yeah.