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Linus Tech Tips Live Show Archive - February 1, 2013

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0:03 uh okay so have we actually been

0:06 streaming anything because we've been uh we've

0:10 been here the entire time live stream's

0:13 not on what the [ __ ]

0:17 um and I really don't know what's going

0:20 on because twitch is telling us we're streaming okay online online online to

0:26 be live back online how long were we gone

0:32 for okay so we're looking at the twitch chat right now like um how how long were

0:37 we how long were we gone for half an

0:44 what 26 minutes no way no way we just started

0:51 yeah I just saw Harrison he's watching he said you just

0:55 started we've been talking for like 25 minutes thinking we were live um uh here

1:01 is exactly what xplit looked like we

1:04 were we were streaming very much streaming and

1:08 apparently that was not U that was not a

1:12 thing that was working for us

1:15 so okay yeah apparently we were never

1:18 live but I thought I I thought I read someone saying something about something

1:23 that explains why when we were started already someone said we were one minute

1:26 late cuz I didn't think we were yeah

1:29 that's hilarious we were on time this week I know we were actually on time

1:34 this week so looking at um here sort by

1:39 sort by date where's our 2

1:42 one so we only have a five Meg file for

1:46 our initial attempt to stream I

1:49 think so we were live for oh no this is this is now that we're

1:55 back already so okay sorry guys um

2:00 you're on a weird scene there you yeah

2:04 we're here what have we talked about so far we talked about SSD update that we

2:09 filmed at work today okay well why don't we start with that because

2:14 like oh okay it's okay so here guys we're

2:19 sorry we're late we had no idea we were late we turned on streaming and then we

2:24 were like we were going so we weren't doing any Twitter questions or anything

2:29 like that we had absolutely no idea that

2:33 we were not live at any point in time during the last uh during the last 25

2:38 minutes so really really sorry about that uh let's go ahead and put Twitter

2:44 back up there minus the stream is not

2:47 streaming finally live uh okay so we'll start that explains why when I checked

2:52 um when you went to go get your boots I went up to check Twitter and there was

2:56 two tweets and I was like why aren't you guys tweeting lus everybody tweet lonus

2:59 and then no tweets came in right yeah

3:02 you know it's funny because I thought we had no technical difficulties tonight we

3:06 had audio working we had video working I'm actually getting kind of sick of

3:10 xplit xplit says it's streaming and just

3:13 isn't that's what pisses me off I mean

3:17 okay yeah we have 1,700 viewers now if I'd looked and seen that we had zero

3:22 viewers still 25 minutes into a live stream but sometimes it takes a really

3:25 long time to update right I mean I wasn't watching it and it sucks to be like oh is everything okay he oh yeah

3:30 it's okay and then keep talking like it should just

3:34 work the crazy thing is when I was doing that one little random streaming test

3:39 yeah um I had to start xplit and then

3:43 stop it and then start xplit and then it would work it would never work on we've

3:47 never had this problem before no I know but upstairs I see that's okay so those

3:50 of you who are wondering why we always have problems it's always a different

3:54 problem that's the issue every time we have a problem and we fix it then we're

3:59 like yeah we know for next time and then we're all like fist bump don't worry we

4:04 got this next time and then it's like something different like one of the days

4:08 um one of the one of the XLR uh what's one of the XLR inputs on the XA 10

4:13 camera is dead so one of the days that happened while we were trying to film a

4:17 live stream so we're like everyone's like no audio no audio the port died how

4:22 are we supposed to know we always use that Port the port died what do you want

4:26 me to do for reference it's the port that's closest to the back of the camera

4:30 by default you just shove it in that Port all the time because this makes most sense and it wasn't a software

4:34 thing we even had diesel look at it after the fact I mean that's part of the

4:38 problem too is it's usually me and Slick doing this not diesel so okay we had a

4:42 long day of shooting NC Tech tips today so we got a bunch of cool episodes done

4:46 one of them was we did a new SSD update so this time we're talking about the

4:50 Samsung 840 and the Samsung 840 Pro so

4:54 if you guys don't know already basically these ssds are balling um or less

5:00 balling but like a good value um so the

5:03 840 Pro is pretty much as fast as it gets it's got a fiveyear warranty um it

5:07 sat a top our performance charts y if I recall correctly uh and I mean it's just

5:12 it's Samsung everything about it is Samsung so there's an inherent sort of

5:16 trust level there I think that comes along with that and it just straight up

5:19 looks good oh yeah Samsung's really good at making good looking stuff and their

5:23 ssds are just beautiful yeah it's just like got a nice uh sort of metal finish

5:27 on it and then it's got one orange spot and and black and orange is like pretty

5:33 that's sort of pretty boss yeah it just looks good yeah and then the 840 what's

5:38 special about that is not so much the performance Crown it still performs

5:41 really well but it's the first consumer SSD to use TLC flash now TLC flash was

5:48 traditionally USB drive territory because it wasn't reliable enough to use

5:53 in a performance application so while it does suffer a bit in terms of right

5:58 speeds are you just checking the uh twitch chat uh yeah oh crap we don't

6:02 have an echo do we it doesn't look like

6:07 it okay are you sure doesn't look like

6:10 it okay because I see a thing here that

6:14 AIO oh nothing we can do about audio pops right now I don't think hello

6:18 everyone um so it's the first one to use TLC flash which means that higher higher

6:22 densities um lower prices in the longer run as well as Samsung's claim that what

6:28 they've done with this drive is they validated TLC flash to the point where

6:32 it's usable in a performance application so read speeds are still outstanding but

6:36 WR speeds are a little bit slower however the thing to be aware of is that

6:39 if you're a gamer or a general desktop user the odds that even 20% of the

6:47 operations that you do on an SSD are rights it's like that and most of your

6:52 rights are going to be big ones like games or programs yeah where it's like

6:56 okay um so okay a disc a long discuss we

7:00 had before we realized absolutely nobody was watching it was uh Slick's challenge

7:05 to me that I should tell him my favorite

7:09 piece of what okay software well we were talking about random stuff and I kind of

7:13 we were talking about ssds so whenever I talk about SSS I'm thinking about new

7:17 computer builds so what one I would want to put in different price computers and

7:20 whatnot whatnot so then I started thinking about Nite and Nite is my

7:23 favorite program so I asked him what his favorite program was well hold on what you said before was piece of software

7:28 yeah I M n night is not really a piece of software it's a script would you call

7:32 a a piece of software would you call a script

7:36 software oh come on that's like me saying that I had a really cool uh you

7:41 know washing machine because it has like a programmable cycle and so that's my

7:46 favorite piece of software is the software on the washing machine okay

7:49 that's completely different how is it completely different All Nite does it's

7:53 not just a script also how is it not just a script they program in specific

7:57 stuff for each one that's why they don't just have a bajillion you could have a

8:01 script that programs in specific of course it has script but there's also

8:06 core software to it a UI is not a script

8:09 okay but an installer is not necessarily A UI there's still a UI to

8:15 it I think the I think the I think the washing machine example holds because

8:19 that software someone coded it it's not

8:23 just peer scripts it has a UI okay so is your favorite program your washing

8:27 machine my clothes wouldn't be clean without it is your favorite program your

8:30 washing machine no but that's my point is your favorite program can't be Nite

8:34 any more than my favorite program can be my washing machine that's ridiculous

8:37 it's not ridiculous come up with a real program it's a program why don't you

8:40 think about one that's like a legitimate program you

8:49 programista okay cuz you asked piece of

8:53 software yeah I would not consider like

8:56 the uh you know the macro functionality on a mouse to be a piece of software

9:02 okay whatever piece of software the connotation of it is I'm holding n night

9:05 I'll show my other one that I showed when we weren't streaming to anyone

9:09 but and that's just a function that's

9:12 like a feature of another piece of softw then I like you know what fine my

9:16 favorite piece of software is Windows Home Server because unlike pretty much

9:21 anything else it actually legitimately made my life better it allowed me to

9:24 take sort of random hard drives like really random I think I even had 120 gig

9:30 drives in it before I knew you really yeah like really old stuff that's pretty

9:34 legit yeah like I had yes I did I had two maxart Diamond max NES that's the

9:39 only drive I've ever killed was a maxart that was the one that slipped out of my hand oh nice okay well these were these

9:45 were old drives these were SATA 1 back when instead of it being a native SATA

9:49 controller SATA drives were just IDE drives with a SATA Bridge chip so so the

9:54 actual performance bottleneck that didn't exist even then I mean at 133 is

10:01 still almost fast enough for any modern Drive something like a wd green 3 tbte I

10:07 I think Peaks at 125 megabytes per second reads and writes ATA 133 is you

10:13 and the ridiculous thing is that we replace it with SATA and then now SATA is almost done but it's because of ssds

10:18 I mean uh ATA would have been held back big time by SD course but it's just

10:22 funny how fast that would yeah st's hilarious it's like SATA

10:26 150 ATA 100 33 yay same thing uh so

10:32 anyway I had those in there so what Windows Home Server was was it was a way

10:36 you could mix and match drives and have safe redundant storage so I and I tested

10:41 it time and time again because I kept using like random old crappy drives and

10:45 refurb drives in it and I kept failing but I kept not losing any data because

10:49 of the way that the drive pool worked um it was an easy way to manage all of your

10:54 computers remotely so you could just have one port open UPnP sets it up for

10:58 you you don't have to think about it versus the amount of dinking around in

11:02 your router and in your os's or

11:05 installing you know different applications on the computers for remote

11:08 access don't have to worry about any of that it's just all Native remote desktop

11:12 connection and it just splits everything out from the one computer and the web

11:16 portal for accessing your files from anywhere so much better than most nases

11:19 any Nas pretty much that in my opinion was the coolest part just the fact that

11:23 it worked just like browsing a folder in Windows and then you transfer files and

11:29 I mean the only thing I didn't like is if you had a really really big transfer it just

11:32 said like transferring files and gave you no bar so you had no idea how long

11:38 far along it was part of the problem was that at the time slick was using the

11:42 Windows Home Server to upload completed Tech tips episodes off of my horrible AR

11:47 52 kilobit up 50 five 50 kilobit

11:51 50 that was the really really old one we had we've had two step UPS since then

11:56 are you sure that's when we were on Tellis we've had two step UPS since then

11:59 that's oh that's awful then we moved to Shaw we got to whatever and then we yeah

12:04 so not having a progress bar would have been a problem yeah cuz it would take

12:07 like the entire night right to upload one video like literally it would take the entire night to upload one video or

12:11 an entire day I mean on the topic of nases especially back then even a

12:15 gigabit Nas was going to do 20 30 megabytes per second file copies whereas

12:20 a Windows Home Server it's a freaking computer it's fast so it yeah takes

12:25 takes care of that stuff all right you can show them what you think passes for

12:29 this is cool software anyone who does um any web development stuff will probably

12:34 appreciate this um if you just go into web developer on Firefox go down to

12:40 their inspect tool this will be a little bit more I'll go to yeah go to The Forum

12:45 yeah me one

12:49 second something that has actually more things on the

12:54 page it's going slow why are you going

12:57 slow right now haha someone's saying e Firefox in the twitch chat you just got

13:02 burned whatever you got burned like fire

13:05 whatever but you're pretty foxy all right so if you go into inspect

13:10 view most people if you work with web stuff will know what inspect view is so

13:14 you can see all the different elements then if you click on 3D

13:17 view you can see all the different elements instead of just highlighting

13:22 them you can actually see how they stack on each other and you can click on each

13:25 individual WAN Show them that module where you figured out that it was was

13:29 just like a huge problem because it was like a bajillion dependen that's changed

13:34 has it changed yeah okay see it's not ridiculous anymore okay so you can see

13:38 if a module like if if it's going to be easy to repair something because you can

13:42 see how many dependencies each of the things on the page actually has well

13:45 it's it's just easier because you can see like what inheritance and you can

13:49 see exactly which element it is and you can like jump into this and that's okay

13:52 that's span. Ma so I can go and find that super easily now and change things

13:57 and do whatever I want that's just kind of f it looks kind of cool that's really

14:02 the main reason why it's awesome I'm not even going to try and hide that it just

14:07 looks really cool it's like look I can do this it's really not like yeah I

14:12 don't know it's not exactly needed why don't we do a little bit of Twitter

14:15 questions since apparently that was a big problem for us last time if we'd

14:19 been doing freaking Twitter questions we would have known that the stream wasn't

14:23 working at all uh so someone says you're

14:26 sexy I'm with Thomas on this one

14:30 um what do you think about the rumors of NVIDIA not allowing non-reference boards

14:34 for gk10 why does NVIDIA hate overclocks NVIDIA doesn't hate overclocks NVIDIA

14:38 hates dead chips because people overdo it that's what NVIDIA hates which I

14:43 don't like I don't like dead chips either that's not what I meant I don't

14:48 like that they're stopping progress okay new gpus are progress yeah

14:54 but limiting people's overvolting capabilities is not progress in my

14:58 opinion I want want to have fun with my stuff I don't want to just buy it and be

15:01 like yeah my system how much fun is your stuff if NVIDIA knows that as the

15:05 processes keep shrinking overvolting is going to be more okay remember a GPU is

15:10 not like a CPU where you can do this to

15:14 it you can just be like oh yeah CPUs

15:17 lots more leakage with the new smaller process so we'll just put this on it and

15:21 then it's okay gpus you're limited to

15:25 this stupid horrible inefficient cooling

15:28 form factor where I mean putting a fan sideways on

15:31 something who who came up with this this is the worst thing ever and guys I know

15:37 that that's because this slot in type

15:40 form factor is not designed for video cards I know they didn't come up with

15:44 this because they thought it was brilliant they came up with this because it was a means to an end they had to

15:48 cool the cards somehow but I mean here

15:51 this is this is kind of a funny thing is people think that graphics cards output

15:56 output like shed loads of heat because they run really hot they don't if you

16:02 actually take a like if you take a cooling Loop like in the swifttech suite

16:06 where uh where Gabe from swifttech had a CPU what was it two gpus I think so two

16:12 gpus didn't he do must cooling no no that was a different build a different

16:16 system yeah okay I think he had a CPU and two gpus in the one at the end of

16:19 the table yeah he had two crazy ones I just always get them mixed up so he had a CPU and two gpus and the actual

16:24 coolant temperatures were only like 4° higher and that speaks to the efficiency

16:28 of the h 220 liquid cooler for one thing but it also speaks to the fact that even

16:33 though gpus run hot that is not the same thing as outputting a lot of heat if you

16:38 guys sort of understand like if you were able to put a cooler like this on a GTX

16:43 680 I guarantee you it would run cooler than a 3570k so part of the problem is

16:48 the form factor that they're stuck in um where it's yeah they can't just throw

16:52 more cooling at the problem so I understand their perspective there bam

16:59 care fine be like I mean I don't I don't

17:03 want to see us stuck with reference boards which like if those rumors are

17:07 true that's what we're getting to and while I would

17:11 prefer uh an NVIDIA reference board to an AMD reference board from what I've

17:15 seen in the past three generations I would still like to give guys like ASUS

17:21 the ability to release you know balling Republic of Gamers stuff and I'd like to

17:27 see guys like MSI releasing lightning cards and uh I mean that yeah that that

17:33 particular reference board is not my cup of tea the 670 reference board actually

17:38 has more coil wine and just sort of is

17:42 generally like really pathetic looking compared to the

17:45 681 um yeah it it does make more noise

17:49 not going to be too stoked if they keep going in that direction but um yeah

17:53 Slick's hair explain now I got it cut that's horrible what hey slick are you

17:58 into Linux I think he means lonus and yeah he's super into

18:02 me it's a typo I'm not super good with

18:05 it but I try and it's really cool and it's fun and come

18:10 closer why just the framing is weird Okay I'm going to move over too I'm not

18:14 I don't just want to be close I was like what um yeah Linux is really cool I just

18:19 wish I was better with it uh OBS stream software yeah I've

18:25 heard of it I can turn down the mic a little um we can you know what

18:30 I can just not yell much that should be fine uh shout out to the lus tech tips

18:34 for a mod team yaych speaking of the Forum we actually

18:38 haven't had any downtime this

18:42 week that I knew

18:46 about when did we have downtime it just

18:49 kind of flickered out for a little bit I don't know if very many people actually noticed at

18:53 all no big deal it came back it's okay

18:59 okay well the forum's been way more stable we've stopped rolling out every

19:03 Beta release of V bulletin 5 that sort of comes across our inboxes that wasn't

19:08 why the form went down I know but it couldn't have it was probably stable you

19:12 know what I uh don't want to talk about it but when the when the when the

19:18 release that fixes the uh the pages comes out we're going to go pretty hard

19:22 for that one we're going to test that one in development and then we're going to hopefully release that one most of

19:26 the other ones were kind of ignoring because a lot of the fixes while they would help are not that

19:32 substantial and bringing down the Forum to put it live and then running into

19:36 problems while we're trying to update because everyone runs into problems while they're trying to update V bolon 5

19:40 right now and then finally getting it live and then running into XY and Z

19:45 errors that we haven't seen before and all these people freaking out because

19:48 yeah something doesn't work like that's not really worth it right now where we

19:52 feel that most of our users on the Forum are at least getting used to the bugs

19:56 that are happening and people are finding own kind of workarounds and we

19:59 posted a work around for one and like it's

20:03 becoming there we go that's more like it

20:06 doesn't matter don't worry about it oh my goodness I'm still taller than

20:11 you there you're sitting up all straight

20:14 I can sit up straight too I'll just move closer to the camera there we go this is

20:19 how they filmed The Hobbit apparently they just had a bunch of people standing closer to the camera see we could make

20:24 me look like a giant and Slick look like a [ __ ] that's kind the lighting's all

20:27 weird when you face it they can tell and they also can tell that you just put my

20:31 chair all the way to the bottom and the bottom of my chair the top of the like

20:35 seat part of my chair they can't see that is at the bottom of his that's

20:39 that's the smoking mirror like that much further down than

20:42 his uh what were you what were you talking about sorry something about how

20:46 the Forum went down and it's all your fault you're fired uh mods have been

20:52 great thanks literally everyone on The Mod team that's been awesome we might

20:55 actually have some cool new stuff to talk to the mod team about yeah at some

20:59 point we're not going to talk about that now though top secret for now yeah but

21:03 that could be really fun but I'm not going to say what it is that could be like actually kind of the best thing

21:07 ever that was a good idea at first I didn't think it was it's

21:11 a great idea everyone's just wondering what the heck we're talking about now um Everyone by the way if you see stuff

21:16 like that's in the wrong form if you see stuff that's bad there is the flag tool

21:19 at the bottom of the posts that is one of the things that works yes right now

21:23 unfortunately there's only two people that see it only the admins can see the

21:26 flags so not the whole team gets to see the flags so it will possibly take us a

21:31 bit because we're working on other stuff whatnot but I will I do get to all the

21:35 flags that get posted so if you post the flag I will get to it uh just found out

21:40 my WD green external can copy uh

21:44 7 okay where the heck is the thing oh oh

21:48 yeah USB 2 that's that's about the max it can do is 35 megabytes per second so

21:53 I'm pretty sure that's what you meant uh what's the difference between SASS and

21:56 SATA that's one of those if you don't know you don't really need to know kinds of things U SAS has some more Enterprise

22:01 level error correction built into it um it plays nicely more nicely with things

22:06 like back planes that'll split it out yeah yeah like SATA supports simple Port

22:10 multipliers but some of the more advanced functionality is um you have

22:15 one of SAS actually yeah I've got I've got a

22:18 SAS he's got some nice SAS Splitters so

22:21 we'll get one of those that'll show one of the things that you can actually do

22:25 with it which is actually really cool yeah SAS is uh SAS supports not only

22:30 sort of splitting out to individual what appear to be SATA connectors uh from

22:34 something like an sff 887 which is what this connector is but it also supports

22:39 direct 887 connections to like an 887

22:43 compatible back plane and things like that so SAS is uh is more server

22:48 professional Enterprise level technology whereas SATA is more for Consumer level

22:52 um they not actually any difference in terms of the speed so don't worry about

22:56 it Is WD ever going to enter the SSD Market

23:01 um I would expect them well they already have like two years ago or whenever it

23:06 was when they released um I don't remember what it was called it wasn't very successful weren't they wasn't

23:12 there t hold on um that whole uh

23:15 presentation that we attended was n not talking about that oh okay go ahead uh

23:19 weren't there like a ton of rumors that they were going to acquire ocz there for

23:23 a while or was that Seagate no that was Seagate oh okay yeah because like is it

23:27 Seagate that's actually like thinking about getting into the SSD game or is

23:31 that WD seate I had a call with them but my entire call is under NDA so I can't

23:35 actually talk about this topic but he doesn't know so he can talk about it as

23:39 much as he wants but he doesn't know so there's nothing to say yeah yes there

23:43 was tons of rumors when ocz was kind of in the dumps there for a bit that Cate

23:46 was going to acquire them Ted says nice Bieber haircut Bieber I don't even know

23:50 what my hair looks like no Bieber has hair like that now like this you

23:53 basically look like Justin Bieber that's unfortunate too bad you don't sound like

23:56 he's like half my size and sounds like a girl he's so

24:01 dreamy you disgust me trade-offs between multi and single rail power supplies I

24:05 think we've covered this before so I'm going to leave that one um okay okay

24:10 okay we're risking it we're risking it oh yeah that I do look dodgy and you do

24:14 look like you're thinking really hard about something thinking long and hard you

24:19 know what was really creepy I showed lonus this the face swap post on the

24:23 Forum oh that is oh God that is just

24:26 awful here what I'm going to go find it

24:30 Tech just unsettling just face swap it's

24:35 just weird Okay so yeah here it is guys this

24:39 is the Linus and Slick face swap thread

24:42 yeah yeah I'm working on it so this is just like I I don't know

24:47 why it's so creepy but it really really is seems really slow right now yeah I

24:52 know why is the farm so slow slick way to go maybe you could get me actual

24:55 hosting maybe you could be not running me on B a

24:59 software uh maybe you can give me an actual server you know what that server

25:03 is not bad yeah that's true that's like

25:06 it's a 980x it's not a bad server by any stretch of the imagination and it has

25:11 like baller 40 48 gigs of RAM yeah what

25:15 48 gigs of non ECC RAM but speaking of

25:19 things that are optimized for server and professional applications and and not

25:24 that not optimal for not the like what are they they're rip jws right

25:28 uh yeah they're G skill rip Jaws okay so the Forum is just apparently not working

25:33 at all no no wait there go oh no wait

25:36 yes wait

25:40 slow is everyone hammering the form because we're talking about it in the

25:43 live stream oh God is it just down yeah

25:48 weren't we just talking about how it's not down

25:53 yeah is it down or timing out it's timed

25:57 out uh check the twitch chat is anyone on

26:01 the Forum like was it up recently A lot of

26:06 people are saying it's down was it up recently

26:09 guys ah you got to be kidding me well

26:13 that's depressing okay well I guess you guys

26:16 will have to just trust me when I say that it's creepy and uh you'll have to sort of

26:23 look into that so I guess we'll move right along in terms of our discussion

26:26 topics ah yes my personal rig is finally

26:30 going to be having some progress made on it so I got a confirmation from Mountain

26:34 mods that I am going to be getting my case back next week so I sent it down

26:40 there for Powder Coating it actually was a little bit trickier to do the powder

26:43 coating than they initially thought so they had to um okay the first time I

26:48 sent my tj07 to them I had the

26:51 anodization left on the side panels and

26:54 on the unibody frame because it was beautiful it was immaculate it was brand

26:58 new so I only sent them the internals to powder coat with their black wrinkle

27:02 however this time around because I've had my case for a long time now and it's

27:06 gotten kind of beat up and scuffed and scratched and the side panels have that

27:10 that hairline brushed aluminum finish that I love but is extremely susceptible

27:17 to staining like if you just touch it and you don't wipe it off immediately

27:21 then it'll just leave a stain of a fingerprint that etches itself into the

27:24 aluminum and you can't get rid of afterwards so I had that all over it so

27:27 I was like okay screw it I'm just going to powder coat the whole thing this time

27:31 so I sent them the entire case and I'm actually uh what's going

27:36 on okay slick just like barreled out of

27:39 here so uh I have no idea what's going on but whatever it is is sort of a big

27:44 deal apparently so anyway my case um was

27:48 stained to crap so I sent them the whole thing I'm actually replacing so not only

27:52 the finish on the entire thing it's going to be black wrinkle um but I'm

27:55 also replacing the side panel window so instead of using a piece of acrylic

27:59 which is just horrible like acrylic scratches by the time you actually peel

28:03 the plastic cover off of it most of the time and because it's such a static

28:07 magnet it's always got dust on it and it always kind of looks cloudy no matter no

28:11 matter what you try to do so I'm replacing that with glass as well but uh

28:15 anyway so Mountain mods found it was kind of tricky because they had to strip off the anodization and then the logos

28:21 on the on that case are actually done with a special epoxy like it's an opaque

28:26 epoxy there's a Silverstone logo at the top and then there's like a power

28:29 indicator at the bottom so they had to get that stripped off as well they had to I think they ended up sanding it off

28:34 just to get rid of it um there's a special remover for it and I know that

28:38 it's kind of out there in the forums but they're just painting the thing anyway so so they just scratched it then they

28:43 had to actually paint it and then once it gets back I'm going to find out if I

28:46 can even put the thing together because I remember having a conversation with uh

28:50 Charles from Murder mod back this must have been like four years ago four or

28:55 five years ago wow I've been doing this a long time anyway I had a conversation

28:59 with Charles from Murder mod back when he first started up where he said that

29:03 the issue with powder coating tj07 is that the um the tolerances can sometimes

29:08 be so tight on the side panels that once you add that extra bit of thickness to

29:12 the unibody in the side panel you actually can't Mount the thing on

29:16 anymore so I'm uh I'm a little bit worried that that's what's going to

29:22 happen to mine but if it does I have a tj11 sort of on standby and I'll go

29:27 ahead and just kind of use that and I won't be too sad about it um

29:32 speaking of speaking of my personal rig actually this is really cool I wanted to

29:36 show you guys this uh we did an unboxing of this

29:41 Reservoir earlier this week so this will be coming soon but if you guys remember

29:45 I'm using one of the limited edition swifttech apple G HD goldplated blocks

29:51 they only made 2 200 um so ncx ordered I

29:54 think NCI placed the second order so NCI

29:58 got numbers UH 60 to

30:01 120 or something like that or like 60 60

30:04 to 100 or I don't know yeah 62 120 so I

30:09 got number 69 and

30:12 um I wanted to do kind of like a gold

30:15 themed build so I saw this and it kind of caught my eye it is a goldplated uh

30:21 cylinder reservoir from uh phobia phobia

30:26 so it's actually got goldplated Plus that come with it so I was thinking with

30:30 bits power goldplated compressions this thing would look absolutely amazing but

30:35 um I just uh I'm not sure is it something like this it actually like

30:39 it's heavy too so the end caps are brass unlike on the t- virus Reservoir where

30:44 they're made of acetal or delin or um

30:48 yeah acetal and delin are the most common names for it so it actually has

30:51 some heft to it which I kind of like comes with really really nice mounts so

30:56 most of these cylinder reses come with sort of cheesy Plexi mounts is it up

31:00 it's like bogged to all hell what's

31:04 wrong with it I think it might be running a timed backup oh because they

31:09 run on hour based Cycles not like this time every day because we wanted to have

31:14 more backups because of last time that we lost post so I think we hit a really

31:19 bad time because we started talking about stuff in the Forum so everyone hit

31:22 it so it's backing up the database and people are hitting the database so it's

31:26 just like so if the database ran on like

31:29 SSD then would it just well one of the things that we're thinking about doing

31:33 is making a dedicated MySQL computer

31:36 right okay this would kind of help with that kind of stuff okay yeah CU see I've

31:41 just been killing time here I started talking about a reservoir I had nothing I was like I was

31:46 like whatever he's doing it looks really urgent well I started pinging uh i p i

31:52 pinged other boxes that thought I thought maybe the Chinese guy was back

31:55 or something oh God did we ever talk about that I don't I think so we got

31:59 attacked by a Chinese guy a Chinese hacker yeah he's a ninja that was nuts

32:04 and then the well you haven't even talked about why it's nuts because

32:08 anyone can sort of be a script Kitty but this guy was like serious business this

32:11 guy knew what he was talking about what happened uh we just got absolutely

32:14 hammered like harder than we've like

32:18 we've had a few different dos attacks before we got the nice firewall and then

32:22 this guy just crushed us like it was ridiculous and we weren't really getting

32:26 touched by him at all like those was going fine it was just like in other

32:30 cases it kind of like sped up I think people were using uh like ly and stuff

32:34 which doesn't seem to all hit all at once but this guy was like prepared and

32:38 angry I mean what kind of gear do you figure he had a lot I don't know exactly

32:43 what he had but a lot so how far did he get he was he was sshing into our Linux

32:49 box which means he was trying he was like getting yeah trying to remote

32:54 connected into our box which is like not cool and what's the point there's no

32:58 data on it that's like helpful yeah I guess anyway the point is we have a

33:02 baller firewall now and he's tried again since then failed and the firewall

33:07 basically gave him the old nope no thank

33:11 you please sir thank you bye so get out

33:15 see you later alligator that was cool actually yeah that's kind of neat um so

33:21 where were we ah yes okay I wanted to do a model numbers rant um that's not

33:26 really related to anything so bring up those ssds again uh okay I'm going to go get

33:31 another SSD that's somewhat related to this red why am I bringing these up

33:35 particularly okay here here's another one

33:39 okay so product naming consistency this

33:43 drives me crazy this is a Samsung

33:48 830 this is a topof the range

33:51 performance drive that is as As Good As

33:54 It Gets from its generation I know where you're going with this this is a Samsung

33:58 840 this is a Mainstream

34:03 Drive okay this is a Samsung 840 Pro

34:08 this is a topof the range performance Drive why isn't an 840 a continuation of

34:15 an 8:30 why isn't this called the

34:20 740 I mean that's okay here this is this is what makes me crazy and it's not just

34:24 them the graphics cards guys do it everyone does it if you have a number

34:29 based naming scheme scale as you go to

34:32 the right why not just change the number and make it different like okay out of

34:37 all the numbers out of all the numbers between zero and a th Samsung has used a

34:42 grand total of I think four of them why not just call it an 840 and an

34:49 835 or like a 720 or u i mean they can't

34:54 use 520 because Intel used that yeah and then there's Intel's numbers which are

34:58 just random who cares like the five it's a 520 it's a 330 and then a 335 I think

35:05 is just a 330 with like a die shrink or something like

35:08 that and isn't faster yeah like at all

35:12 and actually you know what no NVIDIA has been sometimes really good and sometimes

35:17 super inconsistent like I don't know if you remember when they pull okay this

35:21 wasn't as bad as what they skipped 300 yes which just like still blows people's

35:25 minds skip 300 outright like I always I

35:28 actually make mistakes when I'm talking about how many generations apart

35:32 graphics cards what what happened there

35:35 they skipped they completely skipped 300 and then 200 to 400 was a huge

35:40 generational leap that could have I mean do you think they had a product and then

35:45 just didn't release it but then why wouldn't you just name the new one 300

35:49 and like okay and what's up with NVIDIA and sometimes releasing a flagship

35:53 product that is an ultra and sometimes releasing a flagship product that is is

35:58 a that one five H and then like what

36:01 happened to all the differentiation between GTX and GTS and GT what happened

36:04 to gx2 yeah now that's just a 90 yeah

36:09 right so it just floated all around they're just and although I think AMD

36:12 was probably the worst one when they went from a

36:16 6970 being a topof the range single GPU

36:20 to a 6990 being a dual card to a set no wait

36:25 which one when 5870 right 5970 was a

36:29 dual GPU card right

36:32 6970 was a top-of the range single GPU

36:35 card actually never really even thought about that and then it was a 6990 it's

36:39 like so there's a 20 digit like like 20

36:42 number separation between a 6970 and a

36:45 6990 when a 6990 is actually two

36:50 6970 before that it was 5850 5870 same

36:55 kind of thing and then it was a

36:58 um 5850 was it hold on

37:03 5970 wasn't it oh crap now I don't remember Microsoft's really bad for it

37:07 too operating systems I'm just confused see but this is the kind of confusion

37:11 that comes around operating systems go back and

37:14 forth in between letters and XP and

37:17 years and then digits and it's like what

37:22 and instead of having two digits we're going to have one digit yeah and you go

37:25 from like like years to like random

37:29 small letter combinations to Vista which is a word and then number it's like nope

37:35 back down to single number it's like what what are you doing like why can't

37:39 they just make it simple for the consumer it's like this is the you know

37:43 ballist thing you know

37:46 250 and that's better than the ballist thing

37:50 200 I don't know even though I don't like them Apple does pretty okay they

37:54 just don't care Oh iPad

37:58 no no iPad you know it kind of drives me

38:01 crazy cuz I was listening to the radio and they were doing a giveaway for um

38:05 for an iPad with retina display I was like which

38:10 one which iPad with retina display that's fantastic I love how they just

38:14 don't care no it doesn't have a name and like the worst thing about iPad 3 versus

38:18 iPad 4 is that the differentiation between these two products is so small

38:23 and so insignificant that like and and like the general consumer so doesn't

38:29 care about an A6 or an A8 or an a25 or

38:33 whatever chip happens to be in it that it's just like they're like iPad with

38:37 retina like it used to be that you could go iPad iPad 2 okay iPad with retina now

38:45 it's like iPad with retina like there's

38:48 there's no killer feature where you can go yeah this is like the one and then

38:52 but on iPhone they number them except when they put an S on it so anyway

38:57 naming schemes if anyone out there is listening everyone who comes up with

39:01 naming schemes that make no sense is uh

39:04 is just like needs to not do that

39:07 anymore um speaking of naming schemes

39:11 that make no sense in Windows operating systems Windows Phone 8 actually that

39:15 makes perfect sense total sense yeah I know don't worry about it so I now have

39:21 not only the HTC 8X but I've also got my

39:24 hands on an 8s and I just want to say for those of you who have been enjoying

39:28 my I switched series of videos where I'm logging my Impressions not necessarily

39:33 as a total expert cuz people have been like hardcore criticizing the videos

39:38 going he doesn't know what he's doing yeah that's the point I don't know what

39:41 I'm doing I'm not a phone guy I'm giving you my experience I personally did not

39:47 find it intuitive to go into my contact list like this and okay I find scrolling

39:53 intuitive I find scrolling on the right hand side like it's done in iOS and

39:57 Android intuitive I do not find it intuitive to click this number sign here

40:02 and have that bring up a menu of numbers

40:05 that I can SK or letters that I can skip to I haven't seen this yeah this is a

40:09 button how was I supposed to know that I asked you what that was I was like you

40:13 have a contact that doesn't have a name well yeah but it's just their headers so

40:18 you can click any one of them I but I when we first started looking at your

40:21 phone I was like why do you have a contact that doesn't have a name right so anyway I didn't figure that out

40:25 that's so Rand another thing that I didn't but to me that okay yes you could

40:29 go lus you didn't do enough research on the phone I go well yeah but who does if

40:33 I'm approaching it as not a phone Enthusiast as just a general consumer

40:37 the other one was I complained that notifications that come down from the top don't go away you can't just click

40:41 out of them and so for me as a Windows user if something pops up my first

40:46 reaction is just click somewhere else and it'll go away and it doesn't work

40:50 that way because what you're supposed to do is swipe them away to the right that

40:54 to me was not a natural Windows response

40:57 you're an Android User that makes sense but I'm an iOS user didn't know that so

41:01 anyway the point is most of the issues that I had have been resolved in a big

41:06 way and the 8S fixes my last problem

41:09 with the Windows 8 platform because it is significantly smaller so the issue I

41:13 have with the 8X is that I can't really

41:16 I can't really it's a little bit more slippery than the 8S and I can't quite

41:20 reach the far left side while holding on to the phone so the 8S is a 4-in screen

41:26 versus a 4.3 in screen so you can see it's quite a bit smaller and is much

41:30 more comfortable it also has a soft touch grip to the back and I can reach

41:34 all the way across of it across it so typing is much easier the one issue I

41:38 have with the 8S is that it's only a 4 gig phone so I'm going to see if all of

41:42 my apps fit on the 8S and then I might actually switch to it it's expandable

41:46 but you can't install apps on the SD card oh yeah it has a Micro SD whereas

41:50 the 8X doesn't have a micro SD expansion slot so there's sort of give and takes

41:54 to both of them and for those of you who are asking why I didn't get a Lumia 920

41:58 it's because I don't have a Lumia 920 HTC sent me these Windows phones in

42:02 order to do my Impressions so that I could so that I could make these videos

42:06 and I mean they knew that it wasn't necessarily going to be all roses about

42:10 the phones because I'd never used Windows Phone 8 before and self admitt

42:15 self admittedly not a phone guy I even told them I'm like I'm not a phone guy

42:18 why do you even want me to do this that part of the reason why they're like it's because you're not a phone guy we want

42:23 to find out from a non-phone guy how this whole experience goes and so uh so

42:28 yeah I thought that was pretty cool and I think as I get closer to the end of

42:31 the 30 days I'm going to be a lot more comfortable with it tell them what you

42:34 said today uh what did I say today when we were walking downstairs and you're like I think I might actually I may

42:39 actually switch Yeah so I'm getting to the point where I'm I may actually I may

42:43 actually stick with Windows phone and I'm not going Android this comes from

42:47 like a pretty hardcore Apple phone guy

42:50 yeah pretty I like iOS a lot yeah iOS is

42:54 good I still like iOS but you know what's funny is when I pick up my iPhone

42:57 4 it feels like a brick now because the 8X is so much bigger and so much lighter

43:03 and just like it's sexier and just kind

43:06 of better in uh in every way but yeah

43:09 I'm not going Android I know there's a lot of features that Android has but I

43:13 don't like the user experience sorry

43:16 part of that could be I've said this before but part of it could be because I'm more used to Android on tablet

43:21 that's where I've used it mostly and I've spent a fair bit of time on Android

43:24 in a tablet environment but I I just

43:28 don't want that for my phone for my phone experience we all know it's

43:31 totally different but he's just he's just a hater you know what entire

43:35 conversation is missing now we didn't talk about the Logan thing oh my God I

43:41 know we talked about this for like 10 minutes so Logan made a pretty bold

43:46 claim uh Logan from Tech Syndicate if you're not subscribed to Tech Syndicate

43:49 make sure you are uh it's youtube.com/ ra theor where the O in world is a zero

43:55 yeah um so he made a pretty bold claim that the 80

43:59 fx8350 uh pile driver core AMD processor

44:03 is just as good if not better for gaming in a lot of cases than the

44:07 3570k and the conventional wisdom on the internets has been if you're gaming get

44:12 a 3570k shut up about it and just go enjoy your processor so when you guys

44:17 brought it up on the live stream last week I had initially kind of went H poo

44:21 poo no it's not right and that wasn't because I was just being dismissive of

44:25 someone else's results we have tested those chips before um the last time we

44:29 did a head-to-head was with the 2500k and the

44:33 8150 but both of those are about 10%

44:36 slower than the processors that replaced them the 3570 and the

44:40 8350 and we did not have his experience

44:44 between those two chips at all and like we didn't run the same benchmarks that's

44:49 true we didn't run the same benchmarks the only one that we ran that was the same was Crisis and we had a very

44:53 similar output okay so that could be part of it

44:58 another part of it is that it came to my attention that Logan was using a

45:02 released and then retracted Windows 7 patch that looks like it optimizes the

45:07 uh scheduling of of processes across multiple cores better which would

45:12 obviously be an advantage for the 8350 versus 3570k which not only has half as

45:17 many cores well sort of half as many cores bulldozer modules are not quite

45:21 two Coes they're like one and a half course so it has fewer cores and it

45:25 doesn't even have the benefit of H threading like the 3770k does but the

45:29 3770k is in a different price bracket from an 8350 so we can't make that

45:34 comparison so we kind of went okay let's

45:37 take all this and let's put the Linus Tech tip spin on it so we're not going

45:41 to quite run the exact same thing as him the exact same way we took like I I sat

45:47 down and watched all his videos and took immense immense immense amounts of

45:51 notes I have like four or five pages worth of notes we paid attention and we're going to try and do our own thing

45:56 not copy but do own thing so we're going to do our own thing and we're going to take a slightly different angle so

46:00 number one our test platforms we're going to keep them as similar as possible we're going to run a 660 Ti

46:05 power Edition we are going to run did we decide on the amount of RAM what eight

46:09 gigs oh what RAM are we running oh okay we're running 16 gigs of uh of DDR3 1600

46:15 cl9 RAM so just like normal memory we're

46:19 running a Crosshair 5 formula and a Maximus 5 formula so the most upto-date

46:23 highest performance Rog boards for each

46:26 each of those platforms okay I guess there's technically a Maximus 5 extreme

46:30 but but like pretty bleeding edge full formula level boards um and we're going

46:36 to stick with 1080p because that's sort of our tradition most people still

46:40 aren't really running 1440p particularly Gamers if you're buying fast TN panels

46:44 or whatever else um those aren't really out there in 1440 I'm not trying to be

46:48 rude I'm talking to Mr Wizard about bringing the Forum up and stuff is it

46:51 still down it's it's kind of shaky okay so we're I'm I'm not trying to be rude

46:59 keep going keep going

47:03 no uh where was I right we're going to stick with 1080p one video card we're

47:08 going to run a variety of games and and our benchmarking settings for those

47:12 games will be very similar to tests we've done on those games previously

47:16 we're keeping our kind of style we're going to do our style so I think one of

47:19 the things Logan did was he maxed he cranked all the settings because he was

47:23 looking at it from a well okay if you've got all the processing power whether

47:27 it's an 8350 or 3570k we can all agree

47:30 that they're both beast that's fine if you have a high-end video card you're

47:34 probably going to crank up your settings however something that we've observed in

47:37 the past is that if you crank the settings completely to the max some

47:40 games just break so we've seen games where performance just falls off a cliff

47:46 disproportionately I've seen games where turning on anti-aliasing past a certain

47:49 point increases the input leg of the game engine itself to the point where

47:54 it's just totally unplayable so we're going to go for for that that sort of

47:57 that realistic yeah we'd actually play like this so if they if one wins over

48:03 the other it's probably going to be the difference between 45 FPS and 38 FPS so

48:07 we're going for that that playable range rather than just kind of tanking it as

48:11 hard as we can and uh and seeing what happens we are also going to shake up

48:16 one thing that Logan didn't do and we're going to change the OS up so we're going

48:19 to do Windows 7 without the patch that you have to get by specifically

48:23 requesting it because it was retracted we're going to do it with the patch on

48:27 Windows 7 and then we're going to do Windows 8 because Windows 8 should have

48:31 that that logic already built into it so

48:35 and we've been being I mean people have asked us how many times to do many

48:38 gaming on Windows 7 performance versus gaming on Windows 8 performance with the

48:42 same platform so in this case we're going to do that on Intel and on AMD

48:46 separately to say sort of once and for all does the OS impact the gaming

48:51 performance I can tell you guys right now it doesn't very much but we're going

48:55 to do a video about it anyway we're going to prove it there is some areas where it's better or

48:59 worse I've seen some other people's benchmarks not a lot you're right not hug no it's not huge but it's the kind

49:04 of thing you'd never notice unless you're testing side by side still interesting though okay interesting yes

49:09 so I I'll give it that it is interesting and I think you closed up the notebook

49:13 which is where I had my notes for what I wanted to talk about um okay is the

49:18 Forum up enough that we can show them the scary creepy thread now uh it's it's

49:22 kind of fluttering in a note we can try let's see if that one thread manages to

49:26 look load so everybody cross your fingers is the

49:31 form going to load and you know of course every time we talk about it

49:35 they're all going to let's just let it sit in the back okay here I have to go to the washroom so why don't you preview

49:40 this surprise you have for me show know what it is okay

49:46 okay so oh it's not loading at all is it

49:50 no it just totally failed okay so I

49:53 can't really show it too much cuz I don't want to take it out the box I ordered some stuff from China some

49:58 keyboard stuff um I got a ducky wrist

50:02 rest it's all leather and I'm not really usually a fan of wrist rest because I

50:06 don't really like the really jelly stuff but this one's very kind of hard but

50:11 then still comfortable so pretty stable about that I do not like rist rest but

50:15 I've been using this over the last little while and this is the only one I've had that I actually really like but

50:20 I've never had a really solid wrist rest before so not hitting on any other wrist

50:24 rest and then I'm a fan of keyboards and I wanted to get another one and I was

50:28 going to buy a filco Magis touch the the

50:32 uh you can find out it's on ntx it's a special edition one but it has yellow

50:35 key caps um and then I decided that I wanted to get a 10 keyless one and I was

50:40 looking around at different keyboards and decided that I might as well get a year the Dragon one from ducky you see

50:46 right there I'm not going to open it because I'm going to get him to do it um

50:51 so that's pretty cool I I kind of want to get a year of the dragon one because

50:55 uh they make year of the keyboards kind of Fairly consistently um and they're

51:01 always pretty cool and like this one's got a lot of cool features and it looks

51:04 really cool and they do their own little thing with it it's pretty awesome holy

51:08 crap I bought I brought some of the cool stuff that we're going to be checking

51:11 out soon on the channel so uh all of this arrived today which is kind of

51:15 sweet so we have a razor orb weaver on

51:18 hand we saw this at CES tell me slick

51:22 okay as someone who hasn't typically found I mean have you ever owned a ra

51:26 peripheral that you've used for an extended period of time technically yes

51:29 one one okay okay but in general not

51:33 really much of a razor guy tell me about this and my one razor thing I kind of

51:37 hate it okay and it's broken tell me about this um I hate these things not

51:43 like this one in particular but like these little game pads Gamepad things

51:47 I've never really okay seen the Intrigue about it but if I had to get one this

51:52 one just crushes all the other ones it comes with uh the word Crush like like

51:57 no competition oh um Cherry MX Blue key

52:02 switches all fully mechanical Gamepad

52:06 which I I mean makes it how much better than everything else just crushes I

52:11 don't like it's not even funny and like I still am not a fan of the platform I

52:15 don't like the idea I want my full keyboard but if if that is the solution

52:19 that you want that one is the one you should get I I'm like so excited about

52:23 this I mean we only got we didn't even get to play a game with it at CE yes

52:26 because it was just like on here if you want to hold it up that's probably helpful uh because it was just like now

52:33 I can't see it okay well whatever this thing um so we didn't get to play any

52:38 games because they just had it on demo like not actually running any games so

52:42 what could we do but um we I I got to be

52:45 Hands-On with it what was neat about it was it's adjustable enough like some

52:50 things like I would go as far as to say the rat is a little bit over adjustable

52:54 to the point where no one actually needs to do that well whatever I still think

52:58 it's cool okay fine it's no it's cool agree it's cool I don't want one

53:02 personally but I still think it's cool okay but this is adjustable enough to

53:06 the point where I can put my hands on it and it works slick put his hands on it

53:10 and it still works it's still usable no matter no matter how you're using it

53:15 it's fully programmable which is a requirement for something like this and

53:18 it actually has a lot of keys I mean you can complain all you want about how you

53:22 want your full keyboard but this thing has 20 Keys you have really big though

53:27 like I can't reach more than this many keys for sure like the size of this

53:31 thing I can't get any further over than that in all likelihood and the d-pad is

53:34 another big deal as well so I'm super excited to check this out and synapse

53:39 has been fixed now to the point where it works offline so yeah that that was done

53:44 pretty quick I hated on that pretty hard but they fixed that pretty quick so I

53:48 don't know okay so we've got an Acer notebook that just arrived uh so this is

53:53 an Aspire M touch which I hope is uh

53:57 something that we can talk about uh okay if if it's not then

54:02 hopefully no one from Acer is watching cuz I don't want to get in trouble and then this one is oh this I'm really

54:07 excited about this is an Aspire S7 13in

54:11 so I've checked out the 11in before that's the one with the aluminum top

54:15 that's got like a crosshatch uh brushed aluminum pattern on it and is super

54:20 light this one's a little bit heavier it's a 13 in but what's special about

54:24 this guy is the fact that it has um a

54:27 gorilla glass top and looks just absolutely beautiful like the Acer of

54:33 sort of you know thin plastic shells and

54:36 screens that Flex like this seems to have just been sort of dropped down a

54:42 hole and buried with uh with a notebook like this so I'm really really excited

54:45 to check it out I have not been Hands-On with the Aspire S7 13in yet oh I know

54:51 what these are and this I have a pretty good idea of what it is but we actually

54:54 haven't opened it yet this is from Corsair so let's uh go ahead and pull

54:58 out the old knifey but I'm hoping that

55:02 this is Corsair's uh this is Corsair shot across the bow of NZXT cuz NZXT

55:09 actually beat them to Market on a 140 mm

55:12 and 280 mm liquid cooler and it

55:17 is this is the Corsair h110 which is a large and I mean large

55:24 liquid cooler from Corsair it's it's got a 2X 140 mm fan cooling configuration it

55:30 uses quair link which I personally consider to be an advantage over the

55:34 Kraken software it's very comprehensive compared to what other guys have and it

55:38 integrates you know with all your other components which is part of what the

55:41 whole link messaging is about so uh I am

55:44 very very excited to put this on our standardized test bench which you can't

55:48 see but I'm touching right now I sure you it's right there and uh see how the

55:52 performance how the performance shakes down so that's some of the cool stuff

55:56 that we're going to have coming in the next little bit here and why don't you

55:59 go ahead and Blindside me with the surprise I actually legit have no idea

56:03 what's going on here it's probably stupid s thought it

56:07 was a good idea okay what is this what

56:10 is this well just this is separate okay

56:14 so this is a wrist rest yeah okay but I don't I'm not a huge fan of wrist rest

56:17 because I don't like really soft wrist rests this really hard though this is

56:21 like and then I don't like really crappy stupid plasticky wrist RS that usually

56:24 come with keyboards so this a very solid but very good wrist I wish the back was

56:28 grippier I do too and I think I might do some type of mod to change that the

56:32 first thing you have to do is I saw it in a picture and I was like oh that's

56:35 going to be grippy cuz it looks grippy cuz it looks super grippy but it's not

56:39 at all yeah okay there you go that's a better angle like it has like a texture

56:42 to it but it's it's more like plastic

56:45 yeah and I like I read I read up online and knew it wasn't going to be grippy

56:49 but that's okay I I'm sure I can do something about that you know what I have some um I have some neoprene yeah

56:55 if you if you like take that and then glue it on or something like that I

56:58 think I have some Thin neoprene by the way after the stream that would probably be perfect cuz like I knew I'd just do

57:03 something to that so this is a ducky dk98 did you actually order a new

57:06 keyboard when did you do this how do you have money for

57:10 this no offense just wait it's pretty cool okay

57:15 cuz I'm I'm not it's pulled out a sleeve

57:19 I pulled out let it like there's a black sleeve there's a black sleeve okay so I

57:22 have to enjoy the full unboxing experience cuz I'm not really a ducky

57:26 guide so I legit have no idea what this keyboard is but there's the there's

57:30 their branding on the front of it wow they actually do a really nice job with the packaging this is it's not a

57:35 standard one this is not a standard one it's a limited edition so ducky

57:38 channel.com dot okay how do you have money for this okay I can already tell

57:43 from like the way the box is uh is shaping up here that this thing's going

57:47 to be Baller in some way or another so here can you hold this so that they can

57:51 see and so that I can uh so that I can work on it here okay is this something

57:56 that I'm like legit going to have to try and Jack that is foam the foam doesn't

58:00 come out so you can take the individual things so there's a key removal tool

58:03 that comes with it okay so we the best kind you want we should have done an

58:06 unboxing of this but you can't really get them oh remember you can't how did

58:11 you get it uh you can't buy them from standard stores anymore if you go on

58:15 geek hack there's one dude that has a few left okay so there's a red WD keys

58:20 that are included as well as this the FH

58:24 like these Keys here here are because on the middle this is a year of the dragon

58:29 keyboard so 2012 so on the middle there's special keys that say 2012 so if

58:34 you want it to go fhdj you can replace it oh it's heavy I love duckies they're

58:39 so well built ducky and filco and uh Cooler Master and Cooler Master CM Storm

58:44 for that matter it's like awesome awesome wellb built stuff all right so

58:48 here it is the ducky year of the J Dragon Cherry MX Blue keyboard on the

58:54 back there's a uh there's a Mark that shows you which one it is out of however

58:58 many were produced it looks like so this is number 18 this is number 186 which is

59:04 obviously like meant to be for me because that's the year I was born

59:08 86 but uh okay so here's the uh here's

59:12 the 2012 sort of Year of the Dragon thing there so they've actually changed

59:16 the text here is this back lit this is backlit what color blue I guess we ohue

59:20 back blue backlit okay so we got it's got a whole bunch of different lighting

59:24 modes uh one of them is marquee is more just like you put it on a shelf and

59:27 people can see it CU it just looks really cool so you ordered this because

59:31 you didn't actually want so this is why you didn't even care if your old one

59:35 worked anymore no actually this is actually for um like I live at one place

59:41 and then I have my parents place right so when I go home on the weekends I use

59:46 this old gel cap keyboard that I used when I used to play

59:49 EverQuest so I go from my awesome ducky

59:53 where I live and then I have to use use

59:56 this old gelc keyboard when I go home so I wanted a smaller more portable

60:00 keyboard that I can have at home and that I can kind of haul around with me

60:03 there we go sorry that computer I plugged it into wasn't uh wasn't powered

60:07 on so oh looks like it's DOA oh wow that

60:11 is a nice color yeah and you can change the brightness levels up here and you

60:15 can change the modes so function key here's brightness

60:19 levels okay so it's got a number of different brightness

60:22 levels wow at its brightest that's really nice yeah really vibrant and then

60:26 there's your 2012 yeah and then they've got the dragon key right here which is

60:30 your function key they've got a custom key up here like is that like a fire

60:35 from the dragon or something I'm not even entirely sure but it kind of looks

60:38 like it it's not uh it's not consistent with anything that's on here that's the

60:41 dragon right there and then there's uh I don't actually know what this says but

60:45 it's Chinese writing I'm assuming it says you're the dragon sweet I don't know it wasn't

60:50 always really look at that back and forward oh these are media back and forward yes media back and forward this

60:54 is all media y and you get into

60:58 cm1 there oh cool because you can have

61:01 this is like or I don't remember actually how to do it you have to like hold something down for a certain amount

61:05 of time but it's just like the one we saw at CES with Corsair where you can

61:08 like tell it which ones you want lit up okay right uh the k95 from Corsair

61:15 allows you to just hold down a button and go yeah I want these ones lit and

61:20 these ones not lit so these are custom lighting patterns that you can have on

61:23 it that's why you can tell it's like striped here except for the 2012 which is solid so it's just supposed to kind

61:27 of look cool and then if we go uh here

61:33 off that zone like this is all just different lighting types oh that's cool

61:37 I these are just presets oh yeah so it's breathing right now breathing is pretty

61:41 cool hopefully they can see that I don't think they can see it but it's h it's a

61:44 pretty good effect and then uh I think

61:47 this is possibly the Marquee one okay no

61:52 here we go there we go that's Marquee so Marquee just kind of like shows it off

61:56 just wait a sec that's very cool it's

61:59 supposed to do like all the striping is it it might take a little while because

62:03 if it's meant to sit on a r it's meant to sit on a retail shelf when you're running it in Marquee mode right so okay

62:09 um there's one more I got to get it to

62:12 work sorry it's DOA why isn't it for what it's worth

62:17 guys his old ducky is still working as well uh it's plugged into a USB 3 Port

62:22 so that might be part of the flakiness the computer might have fully booted and now it's all acting up

62:26 um but the the mode that I'm actually most excited for is reactive type so as

62:31 you press down a key that key lights up oh really it's pretty cool that's kind

62:35 of ridiculous that's pretty cool and then on the bottom um there's actually

62:40 switches and this is how you set like you can disable your Windows key you can

62:44 swap your control and caps lock you can

62:48 disable uh something else I don't

62:51 remember where them on right now I'm on the spot so the old the old ducky is

62:54 going to go back to your parents house then probably cuz I'm pretty excited for

62:58 this guy and then this you can decide whether or not you want to put it on I'm

63:01 obviously going to put it on but it's a shield over top of this okay so I don't

63:05 even know why it comes off I don't know there we go that's Marquee so why 10

63:11 keyless um I already have a fullsize keyboard and then I have my Cooler

63:14 Master that's 10 keyless and remember when I thought my ducky was dead I used

63:17 my Cooler Master for a while yeah I kind of warmed up to it at that point I

63:21 realized that I I got a lot better at typing numbers up here I never used to

63:24 type numbers up there if I ever had to type a number I Dart over to the number pad and keep going okay so I got a lot

63:28 better at typing numbers up here and then this will be more like I go to the

63:32 island a lot okay whenever I shove my keyboard in my bag it sticks out the top

63:36 right and someone could just go and it freaks me out the whole time so this is

63:41 way easier for transportation how much did this cost I'm not going into that

63:46 this must have been at least 200 bones not going into that come on come on come

63:51 come on I could figure it out if I really needed to no I bet you can't find it

63:56 okay you might be able to find it in

63:59 this is one of those things like the MCB T balancer where I just don't want to

64:03 talk about how much it costs because it's embarrassing because it's just like

64:06 just stupid it's just stupid to spend this much money on it I got it

64:10 okay I want to show the reactive typing mode that's obviously not it that's not

64:14 it that's that might be it there we go

64:18 okay so it looks the keys light up there you go you can kind of see it now as you

64:23 touch them which is very very very cool

64:26 so compared to the electronics that go into most keyboards um this is some

64:31 pretty serious business PR stuff that uh that went on in this one so and it's

64:35 cool cuz it's limited edition and stuff that's always nice that's very cool okay

64:40 okay there's not many there's not many computer hardware swags that that I'll

64:44 get pretty jelly about but that's uh that's that's pretty cool and this is

64:48 the first rist rest that I've ever liked in my entire life I've actually been using this over the last have you tried

64:52 the 7g one yeah it just still feels plasti

64:56 really well it is plasticky but I find the shape is actually like really I do

65:00 kind of like the shape but I really really don't like the plasticky feel I like how this one has the leathery

65:05 texture to it because it's real leather um you know what I think I had

65:10 some I think I had some topics that I did want to discuss but

65:16 um I mean I can't even I can't even really remember what some of them were

65:20 because we didn't manage to launch the uh launch the live stream

65:25 until we I think we even talked about one of them already but uh I'm trying to

65:29 find my post that ient any good Twitter questions uh patent troll New Egg

65:35 shopping cart thing oh yeah right that was that was awesome okay I can also

65:40 check yeah why don't you why don't you uh prep why don't you start talking

65:43 about that one okay one sec all right so

65:46 I don't know everything behind the story so I'm sorry if I screw something up but

65:50 if everyone knows what patent trolls are basically they either have some

65:54 ridiculous patent that's it's just stupid or they buy something up and then

65:58 just try to sue everyone they can and make as much money as they can from

66:01 suing people because of a patent it's not like oh I actually invented this

66:05 thing and you're actually screwing me over I want compensation for this it's

66:09 more like let's just gouge everyone we possibly can for as much money as we

66:13 possibly can I bought the guy who actually invented it so now like so now

66:18 I'm just going to sue everyone going to hoard all of the like awesomeness for

66:21 myself yeah so someone claimed to have a

66:24 shopping cart patent now like I said I don't know everything behind the story

66:27 but shopping cart for online carts so just like okay let's attack everyone

66:34 like everyone and then New Egg just

66:37 steps up with lawyer power and just goes no and just stops some before he

66:42 actually got a was able to do pretty much anything Newegg kind of St stood up

66:47 took the charge and just demolished which is pretty cool because I'm pretty

66:51 tired of patent trolls yeah I mean one of the one of the important things to

66:55 note about patent trolls is that they generally have no intention of actually

67:00 doing anything with the patent so a great example of that would be someone

67:03 like rambus where they invented a bunch of cool stuff to do with memory and

67:07 that's cool I mean that's fine but the reality of it is that was a long time

67:10 ago and at this point everyone's using the technology and everyone's pretty

67:15 familiar with how it all works and you weren't going to build any of this stuff

67:20 anyway so sort of you know pee or get

67:24 off the pot so to speak um you know Cal calm down calm down so

67:28 don't don't worry about it um so actually another topic that I wanted to

67:33 talk about was the German court that ruled internet and essential

67:38 service so there was uh there was sort of a shenanigans that went down where um

67:45 a German Court actually ruled that the internet is essential enough to your

67:51 life that if an ISP so an internet

67:54 service provider um causes any downtime in your internet

67:59 service that you should be compensated for it does okay your thoughts I think

68:04 this is actually kind of cool um but come on that's insane but then I worry

68:10 well there can be seriously critical stuff you can not get a job okay you can

68:14 not you can fail an assignment you can like a lot of seriously big- time things

68:18 can happen and once you uh bring this to your employer and go oh my internet was

68:22 down even if you have evidence they're just like whatever I don't care okay but

68:27 it has to be like if there's a scheduled downtime then I don't think that should

68:31 count okay so the flip side of that argument is there are reliable internet

68:36 connections they're called business internet connections they cost three

68:39 times as much if your internet's that essential to you then you don't mind spending some money on it honestly no

68:45 like really consumer grade basically if

68:49 you buy a consumer grade okay here you buy a semi- truck where it's a

68:53 commercial vehicle the expect is that thing runs for a million damn miles they

68:59 put lots of maintenance on it they put lots of Maintenance in it but the

69:03 maintenance is scheduled maintenance that is like it's spec for that

69:07 maintenance right it's intended to do that M if if that truck broke down in

69:11 300,000 kilm or 300,000 miles or whatever but you know let's use

69:15 kilometers because that's easier for me if it broke down in 300,000 km how mad

69:19 are you pretty freaking madad are expensive whereas if you buy a Toyota

69:24 Corolla and it runs for 300,000 clicks

69:27 they're like yeah I got my I got my life cycle out of that if it breaks down and

69:31 you have like okay here if a semi breaks

69:35 down because of a shoddy piece of electronics that makes sh the window not

69:39 open or like the door locked stop working like my parents SUV the uh the

69:45 uh the trunk you can't open it because the electronic door doohickey doesn't

69:49 work and they had to take it back to the dealership and get it serviced a couple times um if that happened on a prograde

69:56 vehicle I says pardon yes but at the

70:00 same time like hey not to bring up me being on Tellis again and have a 50

70:04 kilobits a second upload but we would lose Internet like not like once or

70:10 twice a month like possibly more than once a day you're on tell us that's what

70:14 you get what the heck why but as a

70:18 consumer you have the right to change it guess how far away the Hub is the Telles

70:21 Hub I don't even know I could throw something and hit it from my house

70:25 you're pretty buff though but that's not the point like it's literally right

70:30 there like it's a it's across the street and a little bit down this is consumer

70:33 grade technology T us has tell us tell

70:36 us has professional grade uh professional grade service that they

70:40 provide that is more reliable probably still sucks okay you don't there's no

70:44 point hating on T us you don't even you're not even a customer of theirs

70:47 anymore so there you go I know I'm just like okay here another thing anything

70:51 prograde costs more and people understand that in well they used to

70:56 understand that consumer grade stuff doesn't entitle you to the same level of

71:00 reliability that prograde stuff does I mean a zon with a super micro

71:04 motherboard with ECC RAM that's error

71:07 cheing all the time and like a raid array of of boot drives with redundant

71:13 power supplies that thing better not ever turn off unexpectedly but this is

71:17 all at the same time even with the semi-truck this is stuff where it's all

71:21 on your end you could perform maintenance not necessarily you could

71:25 monitor things you could perform you perform maintenance all you want on that consumer grade car it's not going to go

71:30 a million kilometers it doesn't matter it's just not designed to do that and

71:35 things like a water pump will fail we

71:38 understand this we accept this in a consumer grade motherboard in consumer

71:43 grade memory that's not doing any error correction and checking um you know what

71:47 you can have a random you can have a random solar flare that blasts it with

71:52 something flips a bit the thing BL screens it turns off we accept this in

71:57 server grade it's going to find that fli bit it's going to say no it's going to

72:02 flip it back and that computer is not going to turn off most of the time okay

72:07 I'm Happ you at it most of the time most of the time but that's what we're

72:10 talking about professional grade versus consumer grade so an internet connection

72:15 that is consumer grade should be like any other consumer grade thing I can't

72:18 even play Devil's Advocate this much because I kind of I don't think the

72:22 internet certifier should actually get in trouble because there's so many things can happen but it would just be

72:26 kind of like if if internet goes down for a

72:31 day and there's no like natural disaster

72:34 and it's just like all their fault maybe you should get a free day I mean the

72:38 thing that I'd like to see is more competition with isps yeah especially

72:43 Canada so while I don't agree that we

72:46 should be penalizing an internet service Prov it's like um there's a there's a um

72:51 there's like a social what do you call

72:54 when a group tries to bring change to different institutions and stuff social

72:59 social social movement okay there's a social movement called open media in BC

73:04 that's all about like holy crap internet service providers and cell phone

73:07 providers are just killing everyone and

73:10 they're like trying to bring reform because we're all just getting decimated with pretty crappy service for

73:14 incredible prices and there's like when there's a social movement being like hey

73:20 guys what the heck and it's similar in a

73:23 lot of places so while I don't think that we should be able to penalize an

73:28 internet provider for not having service we should be able to switch to someone

73:32 else that I believe we should have the right to choose if they suck and if they

73:38 annoy enough customers then we should have the right to tell them to go shove

73:42 it somewhere and we should be able to go to someone else unfortunately when there's two cuz if we have like a

73:47 restaurant analogy restaurants probably like the perfect way to look at it is

73:50 you have a million choices for restaurants if they serve you like

73:55 poison food like if an internet provider somehow like serves you a virus serves

73:59 you a virus then they owe you something but if a restaurant if you go to a

74:04 restaurant and they're like we're out of chicken McNuggets and what do you say you say oh

74:10 you owe me money for the gas that I spent to come here to buy chicken

74:14 McNuggets and you didn't have no they don't which is why I said I can't even

74:17 really play Devils have I mean that's just bad luck I like yeah I think like

74:23 but again like and you can go to a different

74:26 restaurant yeah but you can't just flip isps every day you can't just be like oh

74:30 I don't have internet today I'm going to flip to tell us for today like and then

74:34 but the flip side of that is if it's so important to you to have internet on

74:38 that day then you should have a prograde connection or what you should do is you

74:42 should get a low balancing router they're only about 150 bucks and get two

74:46 different and you should have two different isps honestly like it's not

74:49 okay you looked at me like I was crazy for saying it it's expensive and a lot

74:52 of people can't afford that no but a lot of people can't afford semi- trucks so

74:57 they're going to have to figure out how to live without a sem like I said I don't actually really disagree with you

75:02 I don't think a ISP should get in like big financial trouble for having an

75:07 outage like and when you consider if

75:10 they have to compensate I don't know 100,000

75:14 customers for a day or half a day day or half a day actually that adds up pretty

75:19 quickly and it's not like that and okay like again I'm not like a bleeding heart

75:23 oh the poor internet service providers they're they're pretty balling I mean

75:27 they're pretty balling but the reality of it is they had all their staff on

75:31 that day yeah it that it's not like

75:34 their operation shut down be and if if anything their staff were working harder

75:39 that day because things were getting

75:42 real but then wow does it and wow doesn't make it super popular I know a

75:46 couple different MMOs do it if if it's down for a day you get a day that kind

75:51 of is a thing with some games not all of them with some MMO games right I know

75:56 wow did it I know back when I played EQ this is all old knowledge I don't know

76:01 but like I know EQ way back in the day kind of thought about it I don't

76:05 remember if they actually ever did but I mean look at it even something like okay

76:08 like I would go as far as to say when it comes to isps there's almost things that

76:12 they can't control but that's what I said if it's something like a natural disaster or something along those lines

76:17 okay okay what if there's just like a power outage because you know someone

76:22 screwed up there isn't usually just random power it is it can be for for

76:28 what is it is it their fault is it BC Hydro or is it sh you'll never know like

76:33 if there's a power outage is BC Hydro going to yeah not really CU I would

76:37 argue that electricity is a much more essential service than in fact I would

76:41 even argue that electricity is not an essential service if it's down for a few

76:44 hours or even a day depends who you are

76:47 why what if you're living off life support okay if you're on life support

76:51 but again hospitals are PR grade they

76:54 have but not everyone that's running off that like stuff that requires electricity to

76:59 live is at a hospital okay that's true

77:03 but then at that point what are you going to do give them 50 bucks because they died don't like I don't know I'm

77:08 just and they're I can tell you right now they're using equipment that is

77:12 prograde any medical equipment is prograde not consumer grade and is and

77:16 they've probably got battery backups of some sort or generator or something

77:20 something but I'm just I'm just but I would say that for the general The

77:24 General I'm trying to keep it interesting by fighting for the other side but I don't fully agree with it

77:28 okay well I don't actually think ISP should get in trouble just for that does

77:32 anyone dare me to take the legendary axe to his keyboard just to

77:37 to I think that would be the point where I get fired yeah out of a

77:44 cannon that wouldn't that would be Beyond not

77:48 cool um okay well we're pretty close to

77:51 wrapping up cuz I don't know about you but I'm getting tired oh sorry I just

77:55 um so Intel has MSA 525 ssds which are

78:00 basically a tweaked 520 so it's a high performance sand Force Drive which means

78:05 that you can get up to a 240 gig very high performance SSD in almost any form

78:10 factor now um and along those same lines

78:14 of shrinking storage tashiba now has an external 2 and 1 12 inch 2 tbte

78:20 drive USB 3 pretty standard that's

78:24 pretty Beast holy crap right that's pretty Beast how long ago was it that

78:28 you could only get 2 terab of capacity in a 3 and in fact 3 and 1/2 in drives

78:32 are still maxed out at 4 terabytes yeah yeah I was just going to say that's

78:37 crazy and like the the average one is two I think right now storage is just

78:41 getting so much smaller like it hasn't it's been it wasn't since we went from 5

78:46 and a/4 in being the standard for hard drives down to 3 and 1/2 in being the

78:51 standard for hard drives that we've seen a miniaturization of storage devices

78:56 like this so not only is the performance going like this uh well on SSD it's more

79:01 like going like this yeah um but we're

79:04 actually seeing newer and smaller form factors so ssds brought huge performance

79:08 in small capacities into these two and a half inch form factors now they've taken

79:12 that same performance and they've moved it down to MSA which is absolutely tiny

79:16 I mean mushkin has a 480 gig M just what Madness right do they sell

79:23 that much no of course cuz I see I know but I see a lot of guys that are just

79:27 like oh yeah we released this new baller MSA thing and I'm like I don't see MSA

79:31 move that much like I never see it on forums stuff it does but it moves uh MSA

79:36 sells to a different consumer MSA is not

79:40 for uh a desktop Hardware Enthusiast because what are you going to do with it

79:44 but there's so many desktop boards that built in not that many there's like

79:48 three that's a pretty good amount what do you mean that's a pretty good amount

79:51 that's a pretty good amount for something that I've never seen anyone

79:54 buy ever okay no MSA is not for the

79:58 Enthusiast desktop guys because why bother you have an Enthusiast desktop

80:02 know get a 2 and a half inch like velcro it to something don't worry about it but

80:06 then server why don't they just put it in SSD no no not for Server then what

80:11 for notebooks general consumers the guy who

80:16 buys a Macbook or some Ultra Book and is like oh the only way to expand my

80:21 storage is probably to get a bigger SSD my device only supports MSA so they buy

80:26 one and these are people who okay so enthusiasts are more likely to sort of

80:32 have a fast upgrade cycle or whatever else but a general consumer who's not

80:36 necessarily as educated is more likely to see a need find a solution and just

80:42 act on it because they don't want to do all the research that would be involved

80:46 in setting up a Nas so that they can back up their data there or use a cloud

80:50 service to I they don't want to deal with that they just they want a laptop

80:54 with the hard drive and they want it to be bigger that's it and if you look at

80:58 it from a dollar per Gigabyte perspective which is how an Enthusiast

81:01 looks at it you can go oh that's $500 for only 500 gigs instead I could buy

81:07 this drive which is18 gigs for only $99 a better value yeah whereas if you're a

81:12 general consumer you're going I spent $1,500 on this notebook that has a 128

81:18 gig storage device or I can spend spend it by that much more $2,000 to have four

81:23 times as much storage device so I'm spending 30% more to 4X my storage and

81:28 when when that's one of the main specs in the computer you care about I have a

81:31 better notebook now I spent this much more yeah that's another way of looking

81:35 at it and that might be if you bought an equivalent expense notebook you might be

81:40 happier and get more value out of the one that you upgraded because what you

81:44 actually needed more of was storage space instead of just throwing more money at a computer and getting maybe

81:49 only 50 gigs more did I do my Windows Phone 8 talk before or after we thought

81:54 we were streaming oh I don't remember anymore I

81:59 have no idea we also have to do a giveaway oh yeah we have to do a Windows

82:02 8 givea away

82:05 oh I don't have any questions I don't have any questions what should we do

82:11 let's go with like a Linus Tech tips related

82:14 question what OS did you wait wait wait

82:17 hold on hold on tell me

82:21 first well that's lame I don't I don't even remember what it is I just remember

82:26 there was that thing like what else do we do operating system St uh let's

82:33 do you know what um let's let twitch

82:37 chat tell us um twitch chat no no no no no they're not picking the question

82:42 let's let twitch chat tell us if I ever did the Windows Phone 8

82:47 thing um okay I talked about it already

82:50 Okay they say I talked about it already oh okay okay so I'll pick a question

82:54 question while you juggle or something I I can't juggle you can't juggle oh well

82:58 that's a shame well everyone's going to

83:01 be ridiculously bored now no they won't be bored I don't know what you're talk

83:05 about let's go twitch chat what's up how's it going how are you guys you guys

83:09 are saying yeah you're not even putting the twitch chat up on the thing so a

83:14 press two two don't press two over there whatever hey guys how's it going how's

83:21 life I'm good hey

83:25 you're so lame no one's saying anything interesting say stuff that's interesting

83:29 they're gonna say stuff that's inappropriate yeah I've seen some inappropriate stuff already hey there's

83:34 a dog I don't know how that guy did that that was actually pretty cool hello from

83:38 England hi how's it going I don't know what to say you guys saw my

83:42 keyboard that was kind of all I had up on my sleeve someone has a dog another

83:47 person has a person I'm good someone asked me how I am Destiny's question I

83:51 didn't see Destiny's question read Twitter okay

83:55 we will switch where's the browser there we

83:58 go oh oh oh it's broken if you don't

84:02 entertain them better you're fired

84:05 oh interactions Crisis 3 Bet has been

84:09 fantastic that's cool I want to play Crisis 3 beta needs weapons balancing

84:15 that's not surprising though I'm going to go with like a really stupid piece of

84:20 lonus trivia so I'm actually going to I'm going to be narcissistic enough to

84:24 ask question about myself yeah does it have anything to do

84:29 with Windows no what that's the point is it not yeah so

84:35 then you're just completely avoiding the point yeah we're deviating from the

84:39 point okay okay um how many inches

84:44 taller than me is

84:49 slick and you win a copy of Windows 8 I don't even know that answer

84:55 okay so we're going to Twitter we're going to Twitter let's see who gets it right

84:59 first you can only submit one guess each

85:02 18 new interactions uh oh okay so let's

85:05 go down I don't I don't know how tall slick is anymore okay hold on hold on how tall are

85:13 you can't do

85:17 math Okay so we've got some guesses rolling in okay we got someone saying 5

85:21 in uh 6 in 5 in 3 in 4 in 5 in 7 in 5

85:28 five 2 in 6 17 in come on Brian how

85:33 short do you really think that I am that's not fair 4 in seven in taller

85:39 okay moving down down down okay here we

85:44 go eight six five 2 fo4 in thanks a lot

85:53 man oh over 9,000 in I don't know what the answer is so I have no idea if we've

85:57 seen it or not cuz I don't know how tall you are 6' 3 3 in 4 in 9 in 8 in 3 in 7

86:03 in half an inch 20 new interactions no one's got it so far which is kind of

86:08 funny is it uh what are your thoughts on the

86:12 fx8350 yeah we're having a slightly different conversation right now which

86:15 is uh very related to everything 9 in 4

86:18 and 1 12 in 8 in 9 no one's C it yet

86:25 this is fun this is like the stupidest game

86:29 ever nope nobody's caught it yet I like

86:33 that guy's comment I use a metric system I have no idea stes you know what

86:37 tenaces you know thumbs up to you because you're awesome man you're a

86:42 boss yeah you are definitely a boss

86:46 Christian moly is the big

86:50 winner so uh Christian I'm gonna go

86:53 ahead and follow you on Twitter please send me a direct message on Twitter to

86:58 claim your prize and I'll get you in touch with as always our Windows 8

87:03 giveaway is sponsored by Timmy techtv so you can visit

87:07 youtube.com/ Timmy TV and uh he has generously

87:12 donated uh I think a total of five copies of Windows 8 for us to give away

87:17 on these live streams thank you so much Timmy that's awesome and we've done how

87:21 many so far we've done three

87:25 four I have no idea we're going to keep giving them away until he tells us to

87:29 stop making him broke and giving away his copies of Windows Eight um so I am 5

87:36 foot 6 in and Slick is 64 64 so slick is

87:41 10 inches taller than me that's why it always uh that's why it always hardcore

87:45 breaks the uh the framing of any shot that we're both in like when he's been

87:50 on um netlink weekly for example uh IP

87:54 charger says he said 10 in first I I

87:57 didn't see it so that's sort of a problem uh I'll follow you wait we can

88:03 we can check the log that's the great thing about Twitter um so send me a message and

88:09 we'll see if we can we'll see if we can sort it out if he's the winner then he's the winner and I apologize for uh for

88:15 for ruining it for whatever else um speaking of Twitter unbox therapy is up

88:20 here so uh unbox therapy is the one that I did the gaming peral giveaway away

88:24 with I haven't actually talked to him about doing the prize announcement so we'll have to do that very very

88:29 soon uh will we ever utilize 8way

88:32 probably no time soon the drivers would just be a nightmare um I didn't know you

88:37 were so small or slick so tall not that tall 64 is pretty tall it's like I'm not

88:43 even the second tallest person in my group of friends

88:47 mutant one of my best friends is 6'5 and then one of my good buddies is like 67

88:51 when you don't shave you look like a Sasquatch that's not even that bad you just don't

88:57 really grow facial hair well no wow or

89:00 you mean like why you going to take a cheap drop I'm not

89:04 even you're fired damn it that's tce you

89:08 guys see why I have to fire this guy all the

89:13 time let's do a little bit more Twitter Q&A how about The Unofficial Tech tips

89:17 Game servers how do I feel about them have you even heard about them no

89:21 they're pretty cool and like I think he's actually the one it up and it goes

89:25 like L Tech tips.com star all capitals unofficial

89:31 star so they're not trying to like be sleazy about it they're very official

89:34 very cool as officially unofficial as long as they're unofficial and it's just

89:38 you know lineus Tech tips.com Forum members and they are getting together

89:42 and playing some games that's great I mean that's I it got it got brought up

89:46 by a mod just to make sure that I knew about it he wasn't like I think this is a bad idea or whatever just so that I

89:50 knew about it and then I checked it out and I was like okay well he put the big

89:53 star unofficial star thing so we don't have to moderate it or anything it's

89:57 just free roaming and I think it's cool that's cool um Logan said he sent the

90:02 Skyrim mods yes he did so we have the full list of Skyrim mods so we can PC

90:06 ify it the same way that he did uh okay there's a whole lot of uh oh

90:11 there's a lot of people who are saying they said 10 inches first well it didn't show up on Twitter so I don't know we'll

90:16 have to just go back and check it out um

90:20 okay so I think that's pretty much it for tonight

90:24 good night everyone and thank you for thank you for bearing with us when we

90:28 had again more technical difficulties we really thought that we finally had made

90:33 it so that we started on time yeah and we're really bummed out that we were

90:37 like half an hour of late yeah we we started on time today we were we were

90:41 filming and like talking and going through stuff for like half an hour yeah

90:46 for late for people that just we even fist bumped at one point during that

90:49 half an hour yeah like that's how that's how good of a com you guys missed it I

90:53 mean we enjoy it it was actually it was pretty all right I enjoy your conversation sir it was good I'm not

90:58 trying to make it awkward no I know and like it it was I do enjoy

91:04 your oh God it was the first time we talked about a lot of the things we

91:08 talked about on the stream so I don't know oh well

91:13 okay bye everyone