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uh okay so have we actually been

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streaming anything because we've been uh we've

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been here the entire time live stream's

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not on what the [ __ ]

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um and I really don't know what's going

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on because twitch is telling us we're streaming okay online online online to

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be live back online how long were we gone

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for okay so we're looking at the twitch chat right now like um how how long were

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we how long were we gone for half an

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what 26 minutes no way no way we just started

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yeah I just saw Harrison he's watching he said you just

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started we've been talking for like 25 minutes thinking we were live um uh here

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is exactly what xplit looked like we

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were we were streaming very much streaming and

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apparently that was not U that was not a

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thing that was working for us

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so okay yeah apparently we were never

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live but I thought I I thought I read someone saying something about something

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that explains why when we were started already someone said we were one minute

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late cuz I didn't think we were yeah

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that's hilarious we were on time this week I know we were actually on time

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this week so looking at um here sort by

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sort by date where's our 2

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one so we only have a five Meg file for

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our initial attempt to stream I

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think so we were live for oh no this is this is now that we're

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back already so okay sorry guys um

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you're on a weird scene there you yeah

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we're here what have we talked about so far we talked about SSD update that we

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filmed at work today okay well why don't we start with that because

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like oh okay it's okay so here guys we're

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sorry we're late we had no idea we were late we turned on streaming and then we

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were like we were going so we weren't doing any Twitter questions or anything

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like that we had absolutely no idea that

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we were not live at any point in time during the last uh during the last 25

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minutes so really really sorry about that uh let's go ahead and put Twitter

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back up there minus the stream is not

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streaming finally live uh okay so we'll start that explains why when I checked

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um when you went to go get your boots I went up to check Twitter and there was

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two tweets and I was like why aren't you guys tweeting lus everybody tweet lonus

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and then no tweets came in right yeah

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you know it's funny because I thought we had no technical difficulties tonight we

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had audio working we had video working I'm actually getting kind of sick of

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xplit xplit says it's streaming and just

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isn't that's what pisses me off I mean

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okay yeah we have 1,700 viewers now if I'd looked and seen that we had zero

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viewers still 25 minutes into a live stream but sometimes it takes a really

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long time to update right I mean I wasn't watching it and it sucks to be like oh is everything okay he oh yeah

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it's okay and then keep talking like it should just

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work the crazy thing is when I was doing that one little random streaming test

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yeah um I had to start xplit and then

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stop it and then start xplit and then it would work it would never work on we've

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never had this problem before no I know but upstairs I see that's okay so those

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of you who are wondering why we always have problems it's always a different

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problem that's the issue every time we have a problem and we fix it then we're

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like yeah we know for next time and then we're all like fist bump don't worry we

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got this next time and then it's like something different like one of the days

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um one of the one of the XLR uh what's one of the XLR inputs on the XA 10

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camera is dead so one of the days that happened while we were trying to film a

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live stream so we're like everyone's like no audio no audio the port died how

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are we supposed to know we always use that Port the port died what do you want

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me to do for reference it's the port that's closest to the back of the camera

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by default you just shove it in that Port all the time because this makes most sense and it wasn't a software

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thing we even had diesel look at it after the fact I mean that's part of the

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problem too is it's usually me and Slick doing this not diesel so okay we had a

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long day of shooting NC Tech tips today so we got a bunch of cool episodes done

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one of them was we did a new SSD update so this time we're talking about the

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Samsung 840 and the Samsung 840 Pro so

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if you guys don't know already basically these ssds are balling um or less

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balling but like a good value um so the

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840 Pro is pretty much as fast as it gets it's got a fiveyear warranty um it

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sat a top our performance charts y if I recall correctly uh and I mean it's just

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it's Samsung everything about it is Samsung so there's an inherent sort of

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trust level there I think that comes along with that and it just straight up

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looks good oh yeah Samsung's really good at making good looking stuff and their

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ssds are just beautiful yeah it's just like got a nice uh sort of metal finish

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on it and then it's got one orange spot and and black and orange is like pretty

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that's sort of pretty boss yeah it just looks good yeah and then the 840 what's

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special about that is not so much the performance Crown it still performs

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really well but it's the first consumer SSD to use TLC flash now TLC flash was

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traditionally USB drive territory because it wasn't reliable enough to use

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in a performance application so while it does suffer a bit in terms of right

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speeds are you just checking the uh twitch chat uh yeah oh crap we don't

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have an echo do we it doesn't look like

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it okay are you sure doesn't look like

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it okay because I see a thing here that

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AIO oh nothing we can do about audio pops right now I don't think hello

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everyone um so it's the first one to use TLC flash which means that higher higher

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densities um lower prices in the longer run as well as Samsung's claim that what

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they've done with this drive is they validated TLC flash to the point where

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it's usable in a performance application so read speeds are still outstanding but

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WR speeds are a little bit slower however the thing to be aware of is that

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if you're a gamer or a general desktop user the odds that even 20% of the

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operations that you do on an SSD are rights it's like that and most of your

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rights are going to be big ones like games or programs yeah where it's like

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okay um so okay a disc a long discuss we

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had before we realized absolutely nobody was watching it was uh Slick's challenge

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to me that I should tell him my favorite

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piece of what okay software well we were talking about random stuff and I kind of

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we were talking about ssds so whenever I talk about SSS I'm thinking about new

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computer builds so what one I would want to put in different price computers and

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whatnot whatnot so then I started thinking about Nite and Nite is my

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favorite program so I asked him what his favorite program was well hold on what you said before was piece of software

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yeah I M n night is not really a piece of software it's a script would you call

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a a piece of software would you call a script

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software oh come on that's like me saying that I had a really cool uh you

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know washing machine because it has like a programmable cycle and so that's my

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favorite piece of software is the software on the washing machine okay

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that's completely different how is it completely different All Nite does it's

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not just a script also how is it not just a script they program in specific

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stuff for each one that's why they don't just have a bajillion you could have a

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script that programs in specific of course it has script but there's also

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core software to it a UI is not a script

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okay but an installer is not necessarily A UI there's still a UI to

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it I think the I think the I think the washing machine example holds because

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that software someone coded it it's not

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just peer scripts it has a UI okay so is your favorite program your washing

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machine my clothes wouldn't be clean without it is your favorite program your

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washing machine no but that's my point is your favorite program can't be Nite

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any more than my favorite program can be my washing machine that's ridiculous

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it's not ridiculous come up with a real program it's a program why don't you

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think about one that's like a legitimate program you

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programista okay cuz you asked piece of

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software yeah I would not consider like

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the uh you know the macro functionality on a mouse to be a piece of software

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okay whatever piece of software the connotation of it is I'm holding n night

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I'll show my other one that I showed when we weren't streaming to anyone

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but and that's just a function that's

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like a feature of another piece of softw then I like you know what fine my

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favorite piece of software is Windows Home Server because unlike pretty much

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anything else it actually legitimately made my life better it allowed me to

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take sort of random hard drives like really random I think I even had 120 gig

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drives in it before I knew you really yeah like really old stuff that's pretty

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legit yeah like I had yes I did I had two maxart Diamond max NES that's the

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only drive I've ever killed was a maxart that was the one that slipped out of my hand oh nice okay well these were these

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were old drives these were SATA 1 back when instead of it being a native SATA

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controller SATA drives were just IDE drives with a SATA Bridge chip so so the

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actual performance bottleneck that didn't exist even then I mean at 133 is

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still almost fast enough for any modern Drive something like a wd green 3 tbte I

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I think Peaks at 125 megabytes per second reads and writes ATA 133 is you

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and the ridiculous thing is that we replace it with SATA and then now SATA is almost done but it's because of ssds

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I mean uh ATA would have been held back big time by SD course but it's just

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funny how fast that would yeah st's hilarious it's like SATA

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150 ATA 100 33 yay same thing uh so

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anyway I had those in there so what Windows Home Server was was it was a way

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you could mix and match drives and have safe redundant storage so I and I tested

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it time and time again because I kept using like random old crappy drives and

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refurb drives in it and I kept failing but I kept not losing any data because

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of the way that the drive pool worked um it was an easy way to manage all of your

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computers remotely so you could just have one port open UPnP sets it up for

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you you don't have to think about it versus the amount of dinking around in

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your router and in your os's or

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installing you know different applications on the computers for remote

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access don't have to worry about any of that it's just all Native remote desktop

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connection and it just splits everything out from the one computer and the web

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portal for accessing your files from anywhere so much better than most nases

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any Nas pretty much that in my opinion was the coolest part just the fact that

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it worked just like browsing a folder in Windows and then you transfer files and

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I mean the only thing I didn't like is if you had a really really big transfer it just

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said like transferring files and gave you no bar so you had no idea how long

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far along it was part of the problem was that at the time slick was using the

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Windows Home Server to upload completed Tech tips episodes off of my horrible AR

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52 kilobit up 50 five 50 kilobit

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50 that was the really really old one we had we've had two step UPS since then

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are you sure that's when we were on Tellis we've had two step UPS since then

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that's oh that's awful then we moved to Shaw we got to whatever and then we yeah

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so not having a progress bar would have been a problem yeah cuz it would take

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like the entire night right to upload one video like literally it would take the entire night to upload one video or

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an entire day I mean on the topic of nases especially back then even a

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gigabit Nas was going to do 20 30 megabytes per second file copies whereas

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a Windows Home Server it's a freaking computer it's fast so it yeah takes

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takes care of that stuff all right you can show them what you think passes for

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this is cool software anyone who does um any web development stuff will probably

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appreciate this um if you just go into web developer on Firefox go down to

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their inspect tool this will be a little bit more I'll go to yeah go to The Forum

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yeah me one

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second something that has actually more things on the

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page it's going slow why are you going

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slow right now haha someone's saying e Firefox in the twitch chat you just got

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burned whatever you got burned like fire

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whatever but you're pretty foxy all right so if you go into inspect

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view most people if you work with web stuff will know what inspect view is so

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you can see all the different elements then if you click on 3D

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view you can see all the different elements instead of just highlighting

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them you can actually see how they stack on each other and you can click on each

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individual WAN Show them that module where you figured out that it was was

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just like a huge problem because it was like a bajillion dependen that's changed

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has it changed yeah okay see it's not ridiculous anymore okay so you can see

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if a module like if if it's going to be easy to repair something because you can

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see how many dependencies each of the things on the page actually has well

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it's it's just easier because you can see like what inheritance and you can

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see exactly which element it is and you can like jump into this and that's okay

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that's span. Ma so I can go and find that super easily now and change things

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and do whatever I want that's just kind of f it looks kind of cool that's really

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the main reason why it's awesome I'm not even going to try and hide that it just

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looks really cool it's like look I can do this it's really not like yeah I

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don't know it's not exactly needed why don't we do a little bit of Twitter

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questions since apparently that was a big problem for us last time if we'd

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been doing freaking Twitter questions we would have known that the stream wasn't

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working at all uh so someone says you're

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sexy I'm with Thomas on this one

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um what do you think about the rumors of NVIDIA not allowing non-reference boards

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for gk10 why does NVIDIA hate overclocks NVIDIA doesn't hate overclocks NVIDIA

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hates dead chips because people overdo it that's what NVIDIA hates which I

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don't like I don't like dead chips either that's not what I meant I don't

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like that they're stopping progress okay new gpus are progress yeah

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but limiting people's overvolting capabilities is not progress in my

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opinion I want want to have fun with my stuff I don't want to just buy it and be

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like yeah my system how much fun is your stuff if NVIDIA knows that as the

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processes keep shrinking overvolting is going to be more okay remember a GPU is

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not like a CPU where you can do this to

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it you can just be like oh yeah CPUs

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lots more leakage with the new smaller process so we'll just put this on it and

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then it's okay gpus you're limited to

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this stupid horrible inefficient cooling

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form factor where I mean putting a fan sideways on

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something who who came up with this this is the worst thing ever and guys I know

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that that's because this slot in type

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form factor is not designed for video cards I know they didn't come up with

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this because they thought it was brilliant they came up with this because it was a means to an end they had to

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cool the cards somehow but I mean here

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this is this is kind of a funny thing is people think that graphics cards output

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output like shed loads of heat because they run really hot they don't if you

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actually take a like if you take a cooling Loop like in the swifttech suite

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where uh where Gabe from swifttech had a CPU what was it two gpus I think so two

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gpus didn't he do must cooling no no that was a different build a different

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system yeah okay I think he had a CPU and two gpus in the one at the end of

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the table yeah he had two crazy ones I just always get them mixed up so he had a CPU and two gpus and the actual

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coolant temperatures were only like 4° higher and that speaks to the efficiency

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of the h 220 liquid cooler for one thing but it also speaks to the fact that even

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though gpus run hot that is not the same thing as outputting a lot of heat if you

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guys sort of understand like if you were able to put a cooler like this on a GTX

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680 I guarantee you it would run cooler than a 3570k so part of the problem is

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the form factor that they're stuck in um where it's yeah they can't just throw

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more cooling at the problem so I understand their perspective there bam

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care fine be like I mean I don't I don't

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want to see us stuck with reference boards which like if those rumors are

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true that's what we're getting to and while I would

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prefer uh an NVIDIA reference board to an AMD reference board from what I've

00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:24.000
seen in the past three generations I would still like to give guys like ASUS

00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:29.480
the ability to release you know balling Republic of Gamers stuff and I'd like to

00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:35.120
see guys like MSI releasing lightning cards and uh I mean that yeah that that

00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:42.160
particular reference board is not my cup of tea the 670 reference board actually

00:17:38.280 --> 00:17:44.000
has more coil wine and just sort of is

00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:49.039
generally like really pathetic looking compared to the

00:17:45.360 --> 00:17:50.320
681 um yeah it it does make more noise

00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:56.240
not going to be too stoked if they keep going in that direction but um yeah

00:17:53.520 --> 00:18:00.440
Slick's hair explain now I got it cut that's horrible what hey slick are you

00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:05.840
into Linux I think he means lonus and yeah he's super into

00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:08.600
me it's a typo I'm not super good with

00:18:05.840 --> 00:18:12.760
it but I try and it's really cool and it's fun and come

00:18:10.320 --> 00:18:17.200
closer why just the framing is weird Okay I'm going to move over too I'm not

00:18:14.280 --> 00:18:21.640
I don't just want to be close I was like what um yeah Linux is really cool I just

00:18:19.919 --> 00:18:26.960
wish I was better with it uh OBS stream software yeah I've

00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:31.840
heard of it I can turn down the mic a little um we can you know what

00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:36.159
I can just not yell much that should be fine uh shout out to the lus tech tips

00:18:34.360 --> 00:18:42.000
for a mod team yaych speaking of the Forum we actually

00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.000
haven't had any downtime this

00:18:42.760 --> 00:18:46.240
week that I knew

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about when did we have downtime it just

00:18:49.760 --> 00:18:59.080
kind of flickered out for a little bit I don't know if very many people actually noticed at

00:18:53.919 --> 00:19:01.159
all no big deal it came back it's okay

00:18:59.080 --> 00:19:05.480
okay well the forum's been way more stable we've stopped rolling out every

00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:10.720
Beta release of V bulletin 5 that sort of comes across our inboxes that wasn't

00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:15.280
why the form went down I know but it couldn't have it was probably stable you

00:19:12.840 --> 00:19:21.159
know what I uh don't want to talk about it but when the when the when the

00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:23.679
release that fixes the uh the pages comes out we're going to go pretty hard

00:19:22.760 --> 00:19:27.640
for that one we're going to test that one in development and then we're going to hopefully release that one most of

00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:34.320
the other ones were kind of ignoring because a lot of the fixes while they would help are not that

00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:37.840
substantial and bringing down the Forum to put it live and then running into

00:19:36.679 --> 00:19:42.400
problems while we're trying to update because everyone runs into problems while they're trying to update V bolon 5

00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:46.640
right now and then finally getting it live and then running into XY and Z

00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:50.120
errors that we haven't seen before and all these people freaking out because

00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:54.880
yeah something doesn't work like that's not really worth it right now where we

00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:58.200
feel that most of our users on the Forum are at least getting used to the bugs

00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:01.960
that are happening and people are finding own kind of workarounds and we

00:19:59.919 --> 00:20:06.880
posted a work around for one and like it's

00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:08.440
becoming there we go that's more like it

00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:14.919
doesn't matter don't worry about it oh my goodness I'm still taller than

00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:16.799
you there you're sitting up all straight

00:20:14.919 --> 00:20:20.919
I can sit up straight too I'll just move closer to the camera there we go this is

00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:25.799
how they filmed The Hobbit apparently they just had a bunch of people standing closer to the camera see we could make

00:20:24.159 --> 00:20:30.200
me look like a giant and Slick look like a [ __ ] that's kind the lighting's all

00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:33.120
weird when you face it they can tell and they also can tell that you just put my

00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:36.919
chair all the way to the bottom and the bottom of my chair the top of the like

00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:41.400
seat part of my chair they can't see that is at the bottom of his that's

00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:44.760
that's the smoking mirror like that much further down than

00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:48.559
his uh what were you what were you talking about sorry something about how

00:20:46.360 --> 00:20:53.919
the Forum went down and it's all your fault you're fired uh mods have been

00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:57.440
great thanks literally everyone on The Mod team that's been awesome we might

00:20:55.760 --> 00:21:01.080
actually have some cool new stuff to talk to the mod team about yeah at some

00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:04.559
point we're not going to talk about that now though top secret for now yeah but

00:21:03.280 --> 00:21:09.039
that could be really fun but I'm not going to say what it is that could be like actually kind of the best thing

00:21:07.080 --> 00:21:12.799
ever that was a good idea at first I didn't think it was it's

00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:17.520
a great idea everyone's just wondering what the heck we're talking about now um Everyone by the way if you see stuff

00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:21.320
like that's in the wrong form if you see stuff that's bad there is the flag tool

00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:24.600
at the bottom of the posts that is one of the things that works yes right now

00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:29.279
unfortunately there's only two people that see it only the admins can see the

00:21:26.919 --> 00:21:33.360
flags so not the whole team gets to see the flags so it will possibly take us a

00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:37.679
bit because we're working on other stuff whatnot but I will I do get to all the

00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:44.240
flags that get posted so if you post the flag I will get to it uh just found out

00:21:40.840 --> 00:21:48.720
my WD green external can copy uh

00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:50.880
7 okay where the heck is the thing oh oh

00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:54.919
yeah USB 2 that's that's about the max it can do is 35 megabytes per second so

00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:57.640
I'm pretty sure that's what you meant uh what's the difference between SASS and

00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:04.039
SATA that's one of those if you don't know you don't really need to know kinds of things U SAS has some more Enterprise

00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:08.520
level error correction built into it um it plays nicely more nicely with things

00:22:06.159 --> 00:22:12.799
like back planes that'll split it out yeah yeah like SATA supports simple Port

00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:17.720
multipliers but some of the more advanced functionality is um you have

00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:21.840
one of SAS actually yeah I've got I've got a

00:22:18.520 --> 00:22:24.279
SAS he's got some nice SAS Splitters so

00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:27.039
we'll get one of those that'll show one of the things that you can actually do

00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:32.480
with it which is actually really cool yeah SAS is uh SAS supports not only

00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:37.520
sort of splitting out to individual what appear to be SATA connectors uh from

00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:43.600
something like an sff 887 which is what this connector is but it also supports

00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:45.240
direct 887 connections to like an 887

00:22:43.600 --> 00:22:50.080
compatible back plane and things like that so SAS is uh is more server

00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:54.320
professional Enterprise level technology whereas SATA is more for Consumer level

00:22:52.600 --> 00:22:58.760
um they not actually any difference in terms of the speed so don't worry about

00:22:56.760 --> 00:23:03.919
it Is WD ever going to enter the SSD Market

00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:08.080
um I would expect them well they already have like two years ago or whenever it

00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:15.640
was when they released um I don't remember what it was called it wasn't very successful weren't they wasn't

00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:17.520
there t hold on um that whole uh

00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:20.880
presentation that we attended was n not talking about that oh okay go ahead uh

00:23:19.360 --> 00:23:25.120
weren't there like a ton of rumors that they were going to acquire ocz there for

00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:29.320
a while or was that Seagate no that was Seagate oh okay yeah because like is it

00:23:27.760 --> 00:23:33.600
Seagate that's actually like thinking about getting into the SSD game or is

00:23:31.159 --> 00:23:37.679
that WD seate I had a call with them but my entire call is under NDA so I can't

00:23:35.760 --> 00:23:40.840
actually talk about this topic but he doesn't know so he can talk about it as

00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:44.919
much as he wants but he doesn't know so there's nothing to say yeah yes there

00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:48.000
was tons of rumors when ocz was kind of in the dumps there for a bit that Cate

00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:51.440
was going to acquire them Ted says nice Bieber haircut Bieber I don't even know

00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:55.200
what my hair looks like no Bieber has hair like that now like this you

00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:58.600
basically look like Justin Bieber that's unfortunate too bad you don't sound like

00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:01.120
he's like half my size and sounds like a girl he's so

00:24:01.520 --> 00:24:07.039
dreamy you disgust me trade-offs between multi and single rail power supplies I

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:12.760
think we've covered this before so I'm going to leave that one um okay okay

00:24:10.159 --> 00:24:15.919
okay we're risking it we're risking it oh yeah that I do look dodgy and you do

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:20.799
look like you're thinking really hard about something thinking long and hard you

00:24:19.159 --> 00:24:26.640
know what was really creepy I showed lonus this the face swap post on the

00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:30.279
Forum oh that is oh God that is just

00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:35.960
awful here what I'm going to go find it

00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:36.960
Tech just unsettling just face swap it's

00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:42.760
just weird Okay so yeah here it is guys this

00:24:39.320 --> 00:24:44.279
is the Linus and Slick face swap thread

00:24:42.760 --> 00:24:50.200
yeah yeah I'm working on it so this is just like I I don't know

00:24:47.760 --> 00:24:53.960
why it's so creepy but it really really is seems really slow right now yeah I

00:24:52.360 --> 00:24:57.880
know why is the farm so slow slick way to go maybe you could get me actual

00:24:55.559 --> 00:25:01.240
hosting maybe you could be not running me on B a

00:24:59.360 --> 00:25:06.799
software uh maybe you can give me an actual server you know what that server

00:25:03.600 --> 00:25:09.720
is not bad yeah that's true that's like

00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:15.080
it's a 980x it's not a bad server by any stretch of the imagination and it has

00:25:11.159 --> 00:25:19.200
like baller 40 48 gigs of RAM yeah what

00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:21.279
48 gigs of non ECC RAM but speaking of

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:27.000
things that are optimized for server and professional applications and and not

00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:31.039
that not optimal for not the like what are they they're rip jws right

00:25:28.840 --> 00:25:36.720
uh yeah they're G skill rip Jaws okay so the Forum is just apparently not working

00:25:33.520 --> 00:25:39.679
at all no no wait there go oh no wait

00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.679
yes wait

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:44.640
slow is everyone hammering the form because we're talking about it in the

00:25:43.760 --> 00:25:49.799
live stream oh God is it just down yeah

00:25:48.320 --> 00:25:52.679
weren't we just talking about how it's not down

00:25:53.080 --> 00:25:59.480
yeah is it down or timing out it's timed

00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:03.440
out uh check the twitch chat is anyone on

00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:08.120
the Forum like was it up recently A lot of

00:26:06.399 --> 00:26:13.559
people are saying it's down was it up recently

00:26:09.399 --> 00:26:14.360
guys ah you got to be kidding me well

00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:18.200
that's depressing okay well I guess you guys

00:26:16.600 --> 00:26:25.039
will have to just trust me when I say that it's creepy and uh you'll have to sort of

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:30.919
look into that so I guess we'll move right along in terms of our discussion

00:26:26.679 --> 00:26:32.880
topics ah yes my personal rig is finally

00:26:30.919 --> 00:26:37.520
going to be having some progress made on it so I got a confirmation from Mountain

00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:42.120
mods that I am going to be getting my case back next week so I sent it down

00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:45.799
there for Powder Coating it actually was a little bit trickier to do the powder

00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:51.720
coating than they initially thought so they had to um okay the first time I

00:26:48.399 --> 00:26:54.960
sent my tj07 to them I had the

00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:56.880
anodization left on the side panels and

00:26:54.960 --> 00:27:00.760
on the unibody frame because it was beautiful it was immaculate it was brand

00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:04.880
new so I only sent them the internals to powder coat with their black wrinkle

00:27:02.919 --> 00:27:07.960
however this time around because I've had my case for a long time now and it's

00:27:06.600 --> 00:27:13.640
gotten kind of beat up and scuffed and scratched and the side panels have that

00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:19.320
that hairline brushed aluminum finish that I love but is extremely susceptible

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:22.399
to staining like if you just touch it and you don't wipe it off immediately

00:27:21.159 --> 00:27:25.720
then it'll just leave a stain of a fingerprint that etches itself into the

00:27:24.399 --> 00:27:29.480
aluminum and you can't get rid of afterwards so I had that all over it so

00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:33.720
I was like okay screw it I'm just going to powder coat the whole thing this time

00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:39.840
so I sent them the entire case and I'm actually uh what's going

00:27:36.120 --> 00:27:42.640
on okay slick just like barreled out of

00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:48.080
here so uh I have no idea what's going on but whatever it is is sort of a big

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:49.440
deal apparently so anyway my case um was

00:27:48.080 --> 00:27:53.320
stained to crap so I sent them the whole thing I'm actually replacing so not only

00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.399
the finish on the entire thing it's going to be black wrinkle um but I'm

00:27:55.440 --> 00:28:01.399
also replacing the side panel window so instead of using a piece of acrylic

00:27:59.159 --> 00:28:06.000
which is just horrible like acrylic scratches by the time you actually peel

00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:10.159
the plastic cover off of it most of the time and because it's such a static

00:28:07.760 --> 00:28:13.480
magnet it's always got dust on it and it always kind of looks cloudy no matter no

00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.200
matter what you try to do so I'm replacing that with glass as well but uh

00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:24.120
anyway so Mountain mods found it was kind of tricky because they had to strip off the anodization and then the logos

00:28:21.679 --> 00:28:28.519
on the on that case are actually done with a special epoxy like it's an opaque

00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:31.399
epoxy there's a Silverstone logo at the top and then there's like a power

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:36.519
indicator at the bottom so they had to get that stripped off as well they had to I think they ended up sanding it off

00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:39.519
just to get rid of it um there's a special remover for it and I know that

00:28:38.159 --> 00:28:44.480
it's kind of out there in the forums but they're just painting the thing anyway so so they just scratched it then they

00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:48.840
had to actually paint it and then once it gets back I'm going to find out if I

00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:52.799
can even put the thing together because I remember having a conversation with uh

00:28:50.919 --> 00:28:58.279
Charles from Murder mod back this must have been like four years ago four or

00:28:55.480 --> 00:29:01.320
five years ago wow I've been doing this a long time anyway I had a conversation

00:28:59.840 --> 00:29:05.880
with Charles from Murder mod back when he first started up where he said that

00:29:03.120 --> 00:29:10.919
the issue with powder coating tj07 is that the um the tolerances can sometimes

00:29:08.399 --> 00:29:14.360
be so tight on the side panels that once you add that extra bit of thickness to

00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:19.080
the unibody in the side panel you actually can't Mount the thing on

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:24.600
anymore so I'm uh I'm a little bit worried that that's what's going to

00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:29.799
happen to mine but if it does I have a tj11 sort of on standby and I'll go

00:29:27.760 --> 00:29:34.840
ahead and just kind of use that and I won't be too sad about it um

00:29:32.760 --> 00:29:38.039
speaking of speaking of my personal rig actually this is really cool I wanted to

00:29:36.600 --> 00:29:43.279
show you guys this uh we did an unboxing of this

00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:47.799
Reservoir earlier this week so this will be coming soon but if you guys remember

00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:54.960
I'm using one of the limited edition swifttech apple G HD goldplated blocks

00:29:51.320 --> 00:29:58.320
they only made 2 200 um so ncx ordered I

00:29:54.960 --> 00:30:01.519
think NCI placed the second order so NCI

00:29:58.320 --> 00:30:04.880
got numbers UH 60 to

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:09.320
120 or something like that or like 60 60

00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:12.640
to 100 or I don't know yeah 62 120 so I

00:30:09.320 --> 00:30:15.760
got number 69 and

00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.799
um I wanted to do kind of like a gold

00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:26.200
themed build so I saw this and it kind of caught my eye it is a goldplated uh

00:30:21.399 --> 00:30:28.200
cylinder reservoir from uh phobia phobia

00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:32.720
so it's actually got goldplated Plus that come with it so I was thinking with

00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:38.360
bits power goldplated compressions this thing would look absolutely amazing but

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:42.120
um I just uh I'm not sure is it something like this it actually like

00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:48.720
it's heavy too so the end caps are brass unlike on the t- virus Reservoir where

00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:50.120
they're made of acetal or delin or um

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:53.960
yeah acetal and delin are the most common names for it so it actually has

00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:58.000
some heft to it which I kind of like comes with really really nice mounts so

00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:04.039
most of these cylinder reses come with sort of cheesy Plexi mounts is it up

00:31:00.840 --> 00:31:05.440
it's like bogged to all hell what's

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:11.639
wrong with it I think it might be running a timed backup oh because they

00:31:09.399 --> 00:31:16.480
run on hour based Cycles not like this time every day because we wanted to have

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:20.600
more backups because of last time that we lost post so I think we hit a really

00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:24.559
bad time because we started talking about stuff in the Forum so everyone hit

00:31:22.600 --> 00:31:29.519
it so it's backing up the database and people are hitting the database so it's

00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:31.799
just like so if the database ran on like

00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:36.679
SSD then would it just well one of the things that we're thinking about doing

00:31:33.320 --> 00:31:38.639
is making a dedicated MySQL computer

00:31:36.679 --> 00:31:42.399
right okay this would kind of help with that kind of stuff okay yeah CU see I've

00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:48.639
just been killing time here I started talking about a reservoir I had nothing I was like I was

00:31:46.399 --> 00:31:53.960
like whatever he's doing it looks really urgent well I started pinging uh i p i

00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:57.240
pinged other boxes that thought I thought maybe the Chinese guy was back

00:31:55.320 --> 00:32:02.080
or something oh God did we ever talk about that I don't I think so we got

00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:06.320
attacked by a Chinese guy a Chinese hacker yeah he's a ninja that was nuts

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:10.240
and then the well you haven't even talked about why it's nuts because

00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.760
anyone can sort of be a script Kitty but this guy was like serious business this

00:32:11.639 --> 00:32:18.240
guy knew what he was talking about what happened uh we just got absolutely

00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:20.080
hammered like harder than we've like

00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:24.399
we've had a few different dos attacks before we got the nice firewall and then

00:32:22.320 --> 00:32:28.080
this guy just crushed us like it was ridiculous and we weren't really getting

00:32:26.399 --> 00:32:31.880
touched by him at all like those was going fine it was just like in other

00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.720
cases it kind of like sped up I think people were using uh like ly and stuff

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:40.200
which doesn't seem to all hit all at once but this guy was like prepared and

00:32:38.760 --> 00:32:45.519
angry I mean what kind of gear do you figure he had a lot I don't know exactly

00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:52.000
what he had but a lot so how far did he get he was he was sshing into our Linux

00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:56.399
box which means he was trying he was like getting yeah trying to remote

00:32:54.639 --> 00:33:00.799
connected into our box which is like not cool and what's the point there's no

00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:05.159
data on it that's like helpful yeah I guess anyway the point is we have a

00:33:02.639 --> 00:33:11.159
baller firewall now and he's tried again since then failed and the firewall

00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:15.799
basically gave him the old nope no thank

00:33:11.159 --> 00:33:17.519
you please sir thank you bye so get out

00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:23.320
see you later alligator that was cool actually yeah that's kind of neat um so

00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:27.519
where were we ah yes okay I wanted to do a model numbers rant um that's not

00:33:26.159 --> 00:33:33.039
really related to anything so bring up those ssds again uh okay I'm going to go get

00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:37.000
another SSD that's somewhat related to this red why am I bringing these up

00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:43.600
particularly okay here here's another one

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:45.240
okay so product naming consistency this

00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:51.240
drives me crazy this is a Samsung

00:33:48.080 --> 00:33:54.639
830 this is a topof the range

00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:57.000
performance drive that is as As Good As

00:33:54.639 --> 00:34:02.960
It Gets from its generation I know where you're going with this this is a Samsung

00:33:58.919 --> 00:34:02.960
840 this is a Mainstream

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:09.960
Drive okay this is a Samsung 840 Pro

00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:16.399
this is a topof the range performance Drive why isn't an 840 a continuation of

00:34:15.200 --> 00:34:23.159
an 8:30 why isn't this called the

00:34:20.399 --> 00:34:26.679
740 I mean that's okay here this is this is what makes me crazy and it's not just

00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:32.320
them the graphics cards guys do it everyone does it if you have a number

00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:35.200
based naming scheme scale as you go to

00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:39.599
the right why not just change the number and make it different like okay out of

00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:44.520
all the numbers out of all the numbers between zero and a th Samsung has used a

00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:49.720
grand total of I think four of them why not just call it an 840 and an

00:34:49.919 --> 00:34:57.320
835 or like a 720 or u i mean they can't

00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:01.599
use 520 because Intel used that yeah and then there's Intel's numbers which are

00:34:58.720 --> 00:35:07.720
just random who cares like the five it's a 520 it's a 330 and then a 335 I think

00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:12.760
is just a 330 with like a die shrink or something like

00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:14.599
that and isn't faster yeah like at all

00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:19.119
and actually you know what no NVIDIA has been sometimes really good and sometimes

00:35:17.520 --> 00:35:23.839
super inconsistent like I don't know if you remember when they pull okay this

00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:28.800
wasn't as bad as what they skipped 300 yes which just like still blows people's

00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.520
minds skip 300 outright like I always I

00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:35.839
actually make mistakes when I'm talking about how many generations apart

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:38.200
graphics cards what what happened there

00:35:35.839 --> 00:35:43.040
they skipped they completely skipped 300 and then 200 to 400 was a huge

00:35:40.200 --> 00:35:46.480
generational leap that could have I mean do you think they had a product and then

00:35:45.040 --> 00:35:51.319
just didn't release it but then why wouldn't you just name the new one 300

00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:55.920
and like okay and what's up with NVIDIA and sometimes releasing a flagship

00:35:53.160 --> 00:36:01.160
product that is an ultra and sometimes releasing a flagship product that is is

00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:02.400
a that one five H and then like what

00:36:01.160 --> 00:36:09.119
happened to all the differentiation between GTX and GTS and GT what happened

00:36:04.520 --> 00:36:11.240
to gx2 yeah now that's just a 90 yeah

00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:14.720
right so it just floated all around they're just and although I think AMD

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:20.160
was probably the worst one when they went from a

00:36:16.319 --> 00:36:21.400
6970 being a topof the range single GPU

00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:29.200
to a 6990 being a dual card to a set no wait

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:32.359
which one when 5870 right 5970 was a

00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:35.359
dual GPU card right

00:36:32.359 --> 00:36:36.720
6970 was a top-of the range single GPU

00:36:35.359 --> 00:36:42.200
card actually never really even thought about that and then it was a 6990 it's

00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:45.560
like so there's a 20 digit like like 20

00:36:42.200 --> 00:36:50.040
number separation between a 6970 and a

00:36:45.560 --> 00:36:55.000
6990 when a 6990 is actually two

00:36:50.040 --> 00:36:58.280
6970 before that it was 5850 5870 same

00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:03.440
kind of thing and then it was a

00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:06.200
um 5850 was it hold on

00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:09.800
5970 wasn't it oh crap now I don't remember Microsoft's really bad for it

00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.520
too operating systems I'm just confused see but this is the kind of confusion

00:37:11.520 --> 00:37:17.920
that comes around operating systems go back and

00:37:14.640 --> 00:37:22.200
forth in between letters and XP and

00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:23.560
years and then digits and it's like what

00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:29.160
and instead of having two digits we're going to have one digit yeah and you go

00:37:25.640 --> 00:37:31.520
from like like years to like random

00:37:29.160 --> 00:37:37.640
small letter combinations to Vista which is a word and then number it's like nope

00:37:35.720 --> 00:37:40.560
back down to single number it's like what what are you doing like why can't

00:37:39.200 --> 00:37:46.560
they just make it simple for the consumer it's like this is the you know

00:37:43.560 --> 00:37:49.240
ballist thing you know

00:37:46.560 --> 00:37:52.680
250 and that's better than the ballist thing

00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:58.400
200 I don't know even though I don't like them Apple does pretty okay they

00:37:54.240 --> 00:38:01.720
just don't care Oh iPad

00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:03.319
no no iPad you know it kind of drives me

00:38:01.720 --> 00:38:08.119
crazy cuz I was listening to the radio and they were doing a giveaway for um

00:38:05.560 --> 00:38:12.760
for an iPad with retina display I was like which

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:16.800
one which iPad with retina display that's fantastic I love how they just

00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:20.720
don't care no it doesn't have a name and like the worst thing about iPad 3 versus

00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:26.480
iPad 4 is that the differentiation between these two products is so small

00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:33.440
and so insignificant that like and and like the general consumer so doesn't

00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:35.839
care about an A6 or an A8 or an a25 or

00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:38.839
whatever chip happens to be in it that it's just like they're like iPad with

00:38:37.200 --> 00:38:48.680
retina like it used to be that you could go iPad iPad 2 okay iPad with retina now

00:38:45.240 --> 00:38:50.760
it's like iPad with retina like there's

00:38:48.680 --> 00:38:55.119
there's no killer feature where you can go yeah this is like the one and then

00:38:52.359 --> 00:38:59.640
but on iPhone they number them except when they put an S on it so anyway

00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:04.599
naming schemes if anyone out there is listening everyone who comes up with

00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.960
naming schemes that make no sense is uh

00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:11.599
is just like needs to not do that

00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:13.400
anymore um speaking of naming schemes

00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:17.400
that make no sense in Windows operating systems Windows Phone 8 actually that

00:39:15.520 --> 00:39:24.040
makes perfect sense total sense yeah I know don't worry about it so I now have

00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:26.520
not only the HTC 8X but I've also got my

00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:30.599
hands on an 8s and I just want to say for those of you who have been enjoying

00:39:28.319 --> 00:39:36.040
my I switched series of videos where I'm logging my Impressions not necessarily

00:39:33.520 --> 00:39:39.359
as a total expert cuz people have been like hardcore criticizing the videos

00:39:38.160 --> 00:39:43.680
going he doesn't know what he's doing yeah that's the point I don't know what

00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:49.680
I'm doing I'm not a phone guy I'm giving you my experience I personally did not

00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:56.200
find it intuitive to go into my contact list like this and okay I find scrolling

00:39:53.560 --> 00:39:59.960
intuitive I find scrolling on the right hand side like it's done in iOS and

00:39:57.839 --> 00:40:05.800
Android intuitive I do not find it intuitive to click this number sign here

00:40:02.560 --> 00:40:07.560
and have that bring up a menu of numbers

00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:12.720
that I can SK or letters that I can skip to I haven't seen this yeah this is a

00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:16.440
button how was I supposed to know that I asked you what that was I was like you

00:40:13.720 --> 00:40:20.800
have a contact that doesn't have a name well yeah but it's just their headers so

00:40:18.359 --> 00:40:22.760
you can click any one of them I but I when we first started looking at your

00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:26.920
phone I was like why do you have a contact that doesn't have a name right so anyway I didn't figure that out

00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:30.760
that's so Rand another thing that I didn't but to me that okay yes you could

00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:34.960
go lus you didn't do enough research on the phone I go well yeah but who does if

00:40:33.520 --> 00:40:38.400
I'm approaching it as not a phone Enthusiast as just a general consumer

00:40:37.160 --> 00:40:44.520
the other one was I complained that notifications that come down from the top don't go away you can't just click

00:40:41.720 --> 00:40:48.359
out of them and so for me as a Windows user if something pops up my first

00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.880
reaction is just click somewhere else and it'll go away and it doesn't work

00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:57.359
that way because what you're supposed to do is swipe them away to the right that

00:40:54.200 --> 00:40:59.079
to me was not a natural Windows response

00:40:57.359 --> 00:41:04.119
you're an Android User that makes sense but I'm an iOS user didn't know that so

00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:09.119
anyway the point is most of the issues that I had have been resolved in a big

00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:10.960
way and the 8S fixes my last problem

00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:16.880
with the Windows 8 platform because it is significantly smaller so the issue I

00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:18.720
have with the 8X is that I can't really

00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:23.119
I can't really it's a little bit more slippery than the 8S and I can't quite

00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:28.960
reach the far left side while holding on to the phone so the 8S is a 4-in screen

00:41:26.839 --> 00:41:32.359
versus a 4.3 in screen so you can see it's quite a bit smaller and is much

00:41:30.839 --> 00:41:36.079
more comfortable it also has a soft touch grip to the back and I can reach

00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:40.000
all the way across of it across it so typing is much easier the one issue I

00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:44.760
have with the 8S is that it's only a 4 gig phone so I'm going to see if all of

00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:47.960
my apps fit on the 8S and then I might actually switch to it it's expandable

00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.480
but you can't install apps on the SD card oh yeah it has a Micro SD whereas

00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:56.000
the 8X doesn't have a micro SD expansion slot so there's sort of give and takes

00:41:54.359 --> 00:42:00.640
to both of them and for those of you who are asking why I didn't get a Lumia 920

00:41:58.319 --> 00:42:04.760
it's because I don't have a Lumia 920 HTC sent me these Windows phones in

00:42:02.720 --> 00:42:08.160
order to do my Impressions so that I could so that I could make these videos

00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:11.960
and I mean they knew that it wasn't necessarily going to be all roses about

00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:17.480
the phones because I'd never used Windows Phone 8 before and self admitt

00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:20.280
self admittedly not a phone guy I even told them I'm like I'm not a phone guy

00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:25.520
why do you even want me to do this that part of the reason why they're like it's because you're not a phone guy we want

00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:29.359
to find out from a non-phone guy how this whole experience goes and so uh so

00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:33.240
yeah I thought that was pretty cool and I think as I get closer to the end of

00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:36.599
the 30 days I'm going to be a lot more comfortable with it tell them what you

00:42:34.720 --> 00:42:40.920
said today uh what did I say today when we were walking downstairs and you're like I think I might actually I may

00:42:39.240 --> 00:42:45.119
actually switch Yeah so I'm getting to the point where I'm I may actually I may

00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:50.800
actually stick with Windows phone and I'm not going Android this comes from

00:42:47.319 --> 00:42:54.040
like a pretty hardcore Apple phone guy

00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:56.240
yeah pretty I like iOS a lot yeah iOS is

00:42:54.040 --> 00:43:00.119
good I still like iOS but you know what's funny is when I pick up my iPhone

00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:06.599
4 it feels like a brick now because the 8X is so much bigger and so much lighter

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:09.680
and just like it's sexier and just kind

00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:11.040
of better in uh in every way but yeah

00:43:09.680 --> 00:43:16.520
I'm not going Android I know there's a lot of features that Android has but I

00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:17.839
don't like the user experience sorry

00:43:16.520 --> 00:43:22.920
part of that could be I've said this before but part of it could be because I'm more used to Android on tablet

00:43:21.359 --> 00:43:28.280
that's where I've used it mostly and I've spent a fair bit of time on Android

00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.400
in a tablet environment but I I just

00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:33.200
don't want that for my phone for my phone experience we all know it's

00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:38.000
totally different but he's just he's just a hater you know what entire

00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:42.960
conversation is missing now we didn't talk about the Logan thing oh my God I

00:43:41.240 --> 00:43:48.200
know we talked about this for like 10 minutes so Logan made a pretty bold

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:52.480
claim uh Logan from Tech Syndicate if you're not subscribed to Tech Syndicate

00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:58.079
make sure you are uh it's youtube.com/ ra theor where the O in world is a zero

00:43:55.520 --> 00:44:03.240
yeah um so he made a pretty bold claim that the 80

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:05.760
fx8350 uh pile driver core AMD processor

00:44:03.240 --> 00:44:10.520
is just as good if not better for gaming in a lot of cases than the

00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:14.839
3570k and the conventional wisdom on the internets has been if you're gaming get

00:44:12.520 --> 00:44:19.440
a 3570k shut up about it and just go enjoy your processor so when you guys

00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:23.680
brought it up on the live stream last week I had initially kind of went H poo

00:44:21.359 --> 00:44:27.800
poo no it's not right and that wasn't because I was just being dismissive of

00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:32.520
someone else's results we have tested those chips before um the last time we

00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:36.680
did a head-to-head was with the 2500k and the

00:44:33.319 --> 00:44:38.839
8150 but both of those are about 10%

00:44:36.680 --> 00:44:44.520
slower than the processors that replaced them the 3570 and the

00:44:40.640 --> 00:44:47.280
8350 and we did not have his experience

00:44:44.520 --> 00:44:50.960
between those two chips at all and like we didn't run the same benchmarks that's

00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:56.640
true we didn't run the same benchmarks the only one that we ran that was the same was Crisis and we had a very

00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.760
similar output okay so that could be part of it

00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:04.599
another part of it is that it came to my attention that Logan was using a

00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:10.359
released and then retracted Windows 7 patch that looks like it optimizes the

00:45:07.680 --> 00:45:14.720
uh scheduling of of processes across multiple cores better which would

00:45:12.359 --> 00:45:19.599
obviously be an advantage for the 8350 versus 3570k which not only has half as

00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:23.839
many cores well sort of half as many cores bulldozer modules are not quite

00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:27.119
two Coes they're like one and a half course so it has fewer cores and it

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:31.839
doesn't even have the benefit of H threading like the 3770k does but the

00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:37.920
3770k is in a different price bracket from an 8350 so we can't make that

00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:40.400
comparison so we kind of went okay let's

00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:44.240
take all this and let's put the Linus Tech tip spin on it so we're not going

00:45:41.720 --> 00:45:49.160
to quite run the exact same thing as him the exact same way we took like I I sat

00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:53.160
down and watched all his videos and took immense immense immense amounts of

00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:57.800
notes I have like four or five pages worth of notes we paid attention and we're going to try and do our own thing

00:45:56.200 --> 00:46:01.400
not copy but do own thing so we're going to do our own thing and we're going to take a slightly different angle so

00:46:00.040 --> 00:46:07.839
number one our test platforms we're going to keep them as similar as possible we're going to run a 660 Ti

00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:12.440
power Edition we are going to run did we decide on the amount of RAM what eight

00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:19.400
gigs oh what RAM are we running oh okay we're running 16 gigs of uh of DDR3 1600

00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:21.280
cl9 RAM so just like normal memory we're

00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:26.960
running a Crosshair 5 formula and a Maximus 5 formula so the most upto-date

00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:28.480
highest performance Rog boards for each

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:33.319
each of those platforms okay I guess there's technically a Maximus 5 extreme

00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:37.920
but but like pretty bleeding edge full formula level boards um and we're going

00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:42.280
to stick with 1080p because that's sort of our tradition most people still

00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:46.200
aren't really running 1440p particularly Gamers if you're buying fast TN panels

00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:49.960
or whatever else um those aren't really out there in 1440 I'm not trying to be

00:46:48.160 --> 00:46:54.440
rude I'm talking to Mr Wizard about bringing the Forum up and stuff is it

00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:58.839
still down it's it's kind of shaky okay so we're I'm I'm not trying to be rude

00:46:59.240 --> 00:47:03.040
keep going keep going

00:47:03.359 --> 00:47:11.040
no uh where was I right we're going to stick with 1080p one video card we're

00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:14.680
going to run a variety of games and and our benchmarking settings for those

00:47:12.319 --> 00:47:17.920
games will be very similar to tests we've done on those games previously

00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:21.640
we're keeping our kind of style we're going to do our style so I think one of

00:47:19.720 --> 00:47:25.559
the things Logan did was he maxed he cranked all the settings because he was

00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:30.440
looking at it from a well okay if you've got all the processing power whether

00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:32.760
it's an 8350 or 3570k we can all agree

00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.960
that they're both beast that's fine if you have a high-end video card you're

00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:38.880
probably going to crank up your settings however something that we've observed in

00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.440
the past is that if you crank the settings completely to the max some

00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:47.960
games just break so we've seen games where performance just falls off a cliff

00:47:46.040 --> 00:47:52.640
disproportionately I've seen games where turning on anti-aliasing past a certain

00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:56.200
point increases the input leg of the game engine itself to the point where

00:47:54.240 --> 00:48:00.160
it's just totally unplayable so we're going to go for for that that sort of

00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:04.440
that realistic yeah we'd actually play like this so if they if one wins over

00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:09.640
the other it's probably going to be the difference between 45 FPS and 38 FPS so

00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:13.599
we're going for that that playable range rather than just kind of tanking it as

00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:17.760
hard as we can and uh and seeing what happens we are also going to shake up

00:48:16.040 --> 00:48:21.920
one thing that Logan didn't do and we're going to change the OS up so we're going

00:48:19.720 --> 00:48:25.839
to do Windows 7 without the patch that you have to get by specifically

00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:29.280
requesting it because it was retracted we're going to do it with the patch on

00:48:27.680 --> 00:48:35.280
Windows 7 and then we're going to do Windows 8 because Windows 8 should have

00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.760
that that logic already built into it so

00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:40.760
and we've been being I mean people have asked us how many times to do many

00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:44.000
gaming on Windows 7 performance versus gaming on Windows 8 performance with the

00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:48.960
same platform so in this case we're going to do that on Intel and on AMD

00:48:46.839 --> 00:48:52.799
separately to say sort of once and for all does the OS impact the gaming

00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:56.319
performance I can tell you guys right now it doesn't very much but we're going

00:48:55.160 --> 00:49:01.079
to do a video about it anyway we're going to prove it there is some areas where it's better or

00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:05.839
worse I've seen some other people's benchmarks not a lot you're right not hug no it's not huge but it's the kind

00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:11.960
of thing you'd never notice unless you're testing side by side still interesting though okay interesting yes

00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:15.119
so I I'll give it that it is interesting and I think you closed up the notebook

00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:19.880
which is where I had my notes for what I wanted to talk about um okay is the

00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:24.920
Forum up enough that we can show them the scary creepy thread now uh it's it's

00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:28.640
kind of fluttering in a note we can try let's see if that one thread manages to

00:49:26.520 --> 00:49:34.280
look load so everybody cross your fingers is the

00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.920
form going to load and you know of course every time we talk about it

00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:43.000
they're all going to let's just let it sit in the back okay here I have to go to the washroom so why don't you preview

00:49:40.200 --> 00:49:45.960
this surprise you have for me show know what it is okay

00:49:46.319 --> 00:49:53.720
okay so oh it's not loading at all is it

00:49:50.319 --> 00:49:54.839
no it just totally failed okay so I

00:49:53.720 --> 00:50:02.200
can't really show it too much cuz I don't want to take it out the box I ordered some stuff from China some

00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:04.680
keyboard stuff um I got a ducky wrist

00:50:02.200 --> 00:50:08.200
rest it's all leather and I'm not really usually a fan of wrist rest because I

00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:13.760
don't really like the really jelly stuff but this one's very kind of hard but

00:50:11.160 --> 00:50:16.880
then still comfortable so pretty stable about that I do not like rist rest but

00:50:15.839 --> 00:50:21.680
I've been using this over the last little while and this is the only one I've had that I actually really like but

00:50:20.040 --> 00:50:27.319
I've never had a really solid wrist rest before so not hitting on any other wrist

00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:32.400
rest and then I'm a fan of keyboards and I wanted to get another one and I was

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:34.440
going to buy a filco Magis touch the the

00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:38.200
uh you can find out it's on ntx it's a special edition one but it has yellow

00:50:35.640 --> 00:50:41.440
key caps um and then I decided that I wanted to get a 10 keyless one and I was

00:50:40.319 --> 00:50:47.720
looking around at different keyboards and decided that I might as well get a year the Dragon one from ducky you see

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:52.640
right there I'm not going to open it because I'm going to get him to do it um

00:50:51.040 --> 00:50:57.760
so that's pretty cool I I kind of want to get a year of the dragon one because

00:50:55.040 --> 00:51:02.839
uh they make year of the keyboards kind of Fairly consistently um and they're

00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.480
always pretty cool and like this one's got a lot of cool features and it looks

00:51:04.200 --> 00:51:10.200
really cool and they do their own little thing with it it's pretty awesome holy

00:51:08.040 --> 00:51:13.680
crap I bought I brought some of the cool stuff that we're going to be checking

00:51:11.319 --> 00:51:18.640
out soon on the channel so uh all of this arrived today which is kind of

00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:22.720
sweet so we have a razor orb weaver on

00:51:18.640 --> 00:51:24.880
hand we saw this at CES tell me slick

00:51:22.720 --> 00:51:27.799
okay as someone who hasn't typically found I mean have you ever owned a ra

00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:33.200
peripheral that you've used for an extended period of time technically yes

00:51:29.799 --> 00:51:35.400
one one okay okay but in general not

00:51:33.200 --> 00:51:39.839
really much of a razor guy tell me about this and my one razor thing I kind of

00:51:37.839 --> 00:51:45.240
hate it okay and it's broken tell me about this um I hate these things not

00:51:43.680 --> 00:51:50.240
like this one in particular but like these little game pads Gamepad things

00:51:47.680 --> 00:51:53.839
I've never really okay seen the Intrigue about it but if I had to get one this

00:51:52.240 --> 00:52:02.040
one just crushes all the other ones it comes with uh the word Crush like like

00:51:57.839 --> 00:52:06.839
no competition oh um Cherry MX Blue key

00:52:02.040 --> 00:52:08.880
switches all fully mechanical Gamepad

00:52:06.839 --> 00:52:13.559
which I I mean makes it how much better than everything else just crushes I

00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:17.040
don't like it's not even funny and like I still am not a fan of the platform I

00:52:15.520 --> 00:52:21.559
don't like the idea I want my full keyboard but if if that is the solution

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:24.960
that you want that one is the one you should get I I'm like so excited about

00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:28.799
this I mean we only got we didn't even get to play a game with it at CE yes

00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:35.880
because it was just like on here if you want to hold it up that's probably helpful uh because it was just like now

00:52:33.040 --> 00:52:39.920
I can't see it okay well whatever this thing um so we didn't get to play any

00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:45.799
games because they just had it on demo like not actually running any games so

00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:47.640
what could we do but um we I I got to be

00:52:45.799 --> 00:52:52.400
Hands-On with it what was neat about it was it's adjustable enough like some

00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.559
things like I would go as far as to say the rat is a little bit over adjustable

00:52:54.680 --> 00:53:00.680
to the point where no one actually needs to do that well whatever I still think

00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:04.359
it's cool okay fine it's no it's cool agree it's cool I don't want one

00:53:02.839 --> 00:53:08.359
personally but I still think it's cool okay but this is adjustable enough to

00:53:06.520 --> 00:53:13.480
the point where I can put my hands on it and it works slick put his hands on it

00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:16.680
and it still works it's still usable no matter no matter how you're using it

00:53:15.040 --> 00:53:20.680
it's fully programmable which is a requirement for something like this and

00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:24.079
it actually has a lot of keys I mean you can complain all you want about how you

00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:29.079
want your full keyboard but this thing has 20 Keys you have really big though

00:53:27.040 --> 00:53:32.960
like I can't reach more than this many keys for sure like the size of this

00:53:31.160 --> 00:53:37.240
thing I can't get any further over than that in all likelihood and the d-pad is

00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:41.280
another big deal as well so I'm super excited to check this out and synapse

00:53:39.319 --> 00:53:46.520
has been fixed now to the point where it works offline so yeah that that was done

00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:50.359
pretty quick I hated on that pretty hard but they fixed that pretty quick so I

00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:57.640
don't know okay so we've got an Acer notebook that just arrived uh so this is

00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:59.720
an Aspire M touch which I hope is uh

00:53:57.640 --> 00:54:03.839
something that we can talk about uh okay if if it's not then

00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:11.920
hopefully no one from Acer is watching cuz I don't want to get in trouble and then this one is oh this I'm really

00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:14.040
excited about this is an Aspire S7 13in

00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:18.240
so I've checked out the 11in before that's the one with the aluminum top

00:54:15.680 --> 00:54:21.960
that's got like a crosshatch uh brushed aluminum pattern on it and is super

00:54:20.160 --> 00:54:27.960
light this one's a little bit heavier it's a 13 in but what's special about

00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:30.160
this guy is the fact that it has um a

00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:36.400
gorilla glass top and looks just absolutely beautiful like the Acer of

00:54:33.319 --> 00:54:38.880
sort of you know thin plastic shells and

00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:44.440
screens that Flex like this seems to have just been sort of dropped down a

00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:48.000
hole and buried with uh with a notebook like this so I'm really really excited

00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:52.440
to check it out I have not been Hands-On with the Aspire S7 13in yet oh I know

00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:55.520
what these are and this I have a pretty good idea of what it is but we actually

00:54:54.119 --> 00:55:02.240
haven't opened it yet this is from Corsair so let's uh go ahead and pull

00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:04.960
out the old knifey but I'm hoping that

00:55:02.240 --> 00:55:12.799
this is Corsair's uh this is Corsair shot across the bow of NZXT cuz NZXT

00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:17.559
actually beat them to Market on a 140 mm

00:55:12.799 --> 00:55:20.280
and 280 mm liquid cooler and it

00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:26.520
is this is the Corsair h110 which is a large and I mean large

00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:32.319
liquid cooler from Corsair it's it's got a 2X 140 mm fan cooling configuration it

00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:36.400
uses quair link which I personally consider to be an advantage over the

00:55:34.319 --> 00:55:40.200
Kraken software it's very comprehensive compared to what other guys have and it

00:55:38.359 --> 00:55:44.799
integrates you know with all your other components which is part of what the

00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:46.920
whole link messaging is about so uh I am

00:55:44.799 --> 00:55:50.319
very very excited to put this on our standardized test bench which you can't

00:55:48.839 --> 00:55:54.440
see but I'm touching right now I sure you it's right there and uh see how the

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:57.680
performance how the performance shakes down so that's some of the cool stuff

00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:01.640
that we're going to have coming in the next little bit here and why don't you

00:55:59.839 --> 00:56:04.720
go ahead and Blindside me with the surprise I actually legit have no idea

00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:10.680
what's going on here it's probably stupid s thought it

00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:14.039
was a good idea okay what is this what

00:56:10.680 --> 00:56:16.319
is this well just this is separate okay

00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:19.520
so this is a wrist rest yeah okay but I don't I'm not a huge fan of wrist rest

00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:23.000
because I don't like really soft wrist rests this really hard though this is

00:56:21.319 --> 00:56:27.119
like and then I don't like really crappy stupid plasticky wrist RS that usually

00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:31.079
come with keyboards so this a very solid but very good wrist I wish the back was

00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:34.280
grippier I do too and I think I might do some type of mod to change that the

00:56:32.520 --> 00:56:37.599
first thing you have to do is I saw it in a picture and I was like oh that's

00:56:35.680 --> 00:56:41.000
going to be grippy cuz it looks grippy cuz it looks super grippy but it's not

00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.760
at all yeah okay there you go that's a better angle like it has like a texture

00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:48.000
to it but it's it's more like plastic

00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:50.839
yeah and I like I read I read up online and knew it wasn't going to be grippy

00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:57.280
but that's okay I I'm sure I can do something about that you know what I have some um I have some neoprene yeah

00:56:55.200 --> 00:57:00.359
if you if you like take that and then glue it on or something like that I

00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:04.880
think I have some Thin neoprene by the way after the stream that would probably be perfect cuz like I knew I'd just do

00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:08.880
something to that so this is a ducky dk98 did you actually order a new

00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:12.079
keyboard when did you do this how do you have money for

00:57:10.359 --> 00:57:19.079
this no offense just wait it's pretty cool okay

00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:21.240
cuz I'm I'm not it's pulled out a sleeve

00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:24.359
I pulled out let it like there's a black sleeve there's a black sleeve okay so I

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.359
have to enjoy the full unboxing experience cuz I'm not really a ducky

00:57:26.520 --> 00:57:31.880
guide so I legit have no idea what this keyboard is but there's the there's

00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:37.200
their branding on the front of it wow they actually do a really nice job with the packaging this is it's not a

00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:40.400
standard one this is not a standard one it's a limited edition so ducky

00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:45.640
channel.com dot okay how do you have money for this okay I can already tell

00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:49.640
from like the way the box is uh is shaping up here that this thing's going

00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:53.280
to be Baller in some way or another so here can you hold this so that they can

00:57:51.200 --> 00:57:57.760
see and so that I can uh so that I can work on it here okay is this something

00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:01.960
that I'm like legit going to have to try and Jack that is foam the foam doesn't

00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.520
come out so you can take the individual things so there's a key removal tool

00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:08.720
that comes with it okay so we the best kind you want we should have done an

00:58:06.799 --> 00:58:13.200
unboxing of this but you can't really get them oh remember you can't how did

00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:17.359
you get it uh you can't buy them from standard stores anymore if you go on

00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:24.880
geek hack there's one dude that has a few left okay so there's a red WD keys

00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:27.280
that are included as well as this the FH

00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:31.440
like these Keys here here are because on the middle this is a year of the dragon

00:58:29.319 --> 00:58:37.359
keyboard so 2012 so on the middle there's special keys that say 2012 so if

00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:42.079
you want it to go fhdj you can replace it oh it's heavy I love duckies they're

00:58:39.160 --> 00:58:45.640
so well built ducky and filco and uh Cooler Master and Cooler Master CM Storm

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:51.119
for that matter it's like awesome awesome wellb built stuff all right so

00:58:48.240 --> 00:58:56.119
here it is the ducky year of the J Dragon Cherry MX Blue keyboard on the

00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.160
back there's a uh there's a Mark that shows you which one it is out of however

00:58:58.680 --> 00:59:06.359
many were produced it looks like so this is number 18 this is number 186 which is

00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:12.240
obviously like meant to be for me because that's the year I was born

00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:15.160
86 but uh okay so here's the uh here's

00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:18.520
the 2012 sort of Year of the Dragon thing there so they've actually changed

00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:22.880
the text here is this back lit this is backlit what color blue I guess we ohue

00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:26.400
back blue backlit okay so we got it's got a whole bunch of different lighting

00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:29.000
modes uh one of them is marquee is more just like you put it on a shelf and

00:59:27.520 --> 00:59:33.920
people can see it CU it just looks really cool so you ordered this because

00:59:31.319 --> 00:59:37.000
you didn't actually want so this is why you didn't even care if your old one

00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:43.440
worked anymore no actually this is actually for um like I live at one place

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:48.680
and then I have my parents place right so when I go home on the weekends I use

00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:53.079
this old gel cap keyboard that I used when I used to play

00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:56.319
EverQuest so I go from my awesome ducky

00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:58.760
where I live and then I have to use use

00:59:56.319 --> 01:00:01.680
this old gelc keyboard when I go home so I wanted a smaller more portable

01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.960
keyboard that I can have at home and that I can kind of haul around with me

01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:11.760
there we go sorry that computer I plugged it into wasn't uh wasn't powered

01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:14.119
on so oh looks like it's DOA oh wow that

01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:18.280
is a nice color yeah and you can change the brightness levels up here and you

01:00:15.839 --> 01:00:21.559
can change the modes so function key here's brightness

01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:25.359
levels okay so it's got a number of different brightness

01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:29.160
levels wow at its brightest that's really nice yeah really vibrant and then

01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:32.160
there's your 2012 yeah and then they've got the dragon key right here which is

01:00:30.799 --> 01:00:36.520
your function key they've got a custom key up here like is that like a fire

01:00:35.160 --> 01:00:40.319
from the dragon or something I'm not even entirely sure but it kind of looks

01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:43.960
like it it's not uh it's not consistent with anything that's on here that's the

01:00:41.839 --> 01:00:46.680
dragon right there and then there's uh I don't actually know what this says but

01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:51.599
it's Chinese writing I'm assuming it says you're the dragon sweet I don't know it wasn't

01:00:50.359 --> 01:00:58.200
always really look at that back and forward oh these are media back and forward yes media back and forward this

01:00:54.240 --> 01:01:01.680
is all media y and you get into

01:00:58.200 --> 01:01:03.359
cm1 there oh cool because you can have

01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:06.680
this is like or I don't remember actually how to do it you have to like hold something down for a certain amount

01:01:05.359 --> 01:01:11.520
of time but it's just like the one we saw at CES with Corsair where you can

01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:17.480
like tell it which ones you want lit up okay right uh the k95 from Corsair

01:01:15.359 --> 01:01:22.160
allows you to just hold down a button and go yeah I want these ones lit and

01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.839
these ones not lit so these are custom lighting patterns that you can have on

01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:33.359
it that's why you can tell it's like striped here except for the 2012 which is solid so it's just supposed to kind

01:01:27.839 --> 01:01:35.720
of look cool and then if we go uh here

01:01:33.359 --> 01:01:39.960
off that zone like this is all just different lighting types oh that's cool

01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:43.160
I these are just presets oh yeah so it's breathing right now breathing is pretty

01:01:41.680 --> 01:01:47.960
cool hopefully they can see that I don't think they can see it but it's h it's a

01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:52.359
pretty good effect and then uh I think

01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:54.880
this is possibly the Marquee one okay no

01:01:52.359 --> 01:01:59.920
here we go there we go that's Marquee so Marquee just kind of like shows it off

01:01:56.680 --> 01:02:02.319
just wait a sec that's very cool it's

01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:05.240
supposed to do like all the striping is it it might take a little while because

01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:12.400
if it's meant to sit on a r it's meant to sit on a retail shelf when you're running it in Marquee mode right so okay

01:02:09.200 --> 01:02:14.440
um there's one more I got to get it to

01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:19.119
work sorry it's DOA why isn't it for what it's worth

01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:23.480
guys his old ducky is still working as well uh it's plugged into a USB 3 Port

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:28.000
so that might be part of the flakiness the computer might have fully booted and now it's all acting up

01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:34.279
um but the the mode that I'm actually most excited for is reactive type so as

01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:37.599
you press down a key that key lights up oh really it's pretty cool that's kind

01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:43.200
of ridiculous that's pretty cool and then on the bottom um there's actually

01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:48.200
switches and this is how you set like you can disable your Windows key you can

01:02:44.799 --> 01:02:51.319
swap your control and caps lock you can

01:02:48.200 --> 01:02:52.440
disable uh something else I don't

01:02:51.319 --> 01:02:56.359
remember where them on right now I'm on the spot so the old the old ducky is

01:02:54.920 --> 01:03:00.240
going to go back to your parents house then probably cuz I'm pretty excited for

01:02:58.240 --> 01:03:02.960
this guy and then this you can decide whether or not you want to put it on I'm

01:03:01.720 --> 01:03:07.279
obviously going to put it on but it's a shield over top of this okay so I don't

01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:13.200
even know why it comes off I don't know there we go that's Marquee so why 10

01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:16.400
keyless um I already have a fullsize keyboard and then I have my Cooler

01:03:14.359 --> 01:03:19.839
Master that's 10 keyless and remember when I thought my ducky was dead I used

01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:22.960
my Cooler Master for a while yeah I kind of warmed up to it at that point I

01:03:21.359 --> 01:03:25.880
realized that I I got a lot better at typing numbers up here I never used to

01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:30.160
type numbers up there if I ever had to type a number I Dart over to the number pad and keep going okay so I got a lot

01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:34.839
better at typing numbers up here and then this will be more like I go to the

01:03:32.319 --> 01:03:39.520
island a lot okay whenever I shove my keyboard in my bag it sticks out the top

01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:42.599
right and someone could just go and it freaks me out the whole time so this is

01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:48.839
way easier for transportation how much did this cost I'm not going into that

01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:52.119
this must have been at least 200 bones not going into that come on come on come

01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:59.799
come on I could figure it out if I really needed to no I bet you can't find it

01:03:56.720 --> 01:04:01.319
okay you might be able to find it in

01:03:59.799 --> 01:04:04.440
this is one of those things like the MCB T balancer where I just don't want to

01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:08.359
talk about how much it costs because it's embarrassing because it's just like

01:04:06.359 --> 01:04:13.079
just stupid it's just stupid to spend this much money on it I got it

01:04:10.839 --> 01:04:18.599
okay I want to show the reactive typing mode that's obviously not it that's not

01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:21.000
it that's that might be it there we go

01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:26.319
okay so it looks the keys light up there you go you can kind of see it now as you

01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:28.559
touch them which is very very very cool

01:04:26.319 --> 01:04:33.880
so compared to the electronics that go into most keyboards um this is some

01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:37.440
pretty serious business PR stuff that uh that went on in this one so and it's

01:04:35.359 --> 01:04:42.400
cool cuz it's limited edition and stuff that's always nice that's very cool okay

01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:46.160
okay there's not many there's not many computer hardware swags that that I'll

01:04:44.279 --> 01:04:49.680
get pretty jelly about but that's uh that's that's pretty cool and this is

01:04:48.200 --> 01:04:53.359
the first rist rest that I've ever liked in my entire life I've actually been using this over the last have you tried

01:04:52.160 --> 01:04:59.000
the 7g one yeah it just still feels plasti

01:04:56.279 --> 01:05:02.400
really well it is plasticky but I find the shape is actually like really I do

01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:07.640
kind of like the shape but I really really don't like the plasticky feel I like how this one has the leathery

01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:12.520
texture to it because it's real leather um you know what I think I had

01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:18.799
some I think I had some topics that I did want to discuss but

01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:22.599
um I mean I can't even I can't even really remember what some of them were

01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:27.799
because we didn't manage to launch the uh launch the live stream

01:05:25.839 --> 01:05:32.599
until we I think we even talked about one of them already but uh I'm trying to

01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:38.160
find my post that ient any good Twitter questions uh patent troll New Egg

01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:41.599
shopping cart thing oh yeah right that was that was awesome okay I can also

01:05:40.200 --> 01:05:46.920
check yeah why don't you why don't you uh prep why don't you start talking

01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:48.440
about that one okay one sec all right so

01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:52.200
I don't know everything behind the story so I'm sorry if I screw something up but

01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:55.920
if everyone knows what patent trolls are basically they either have some

01:05:54.520 --> 01:06:00.039
ridiculous patent that's it's just stupid or they buy something up and then

01:05:58.240 --> 01:06:03.760
just try to sue everyone they can and make as much money as they can from

01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:07.160
suing people because of a patent it's not like oh I actually invented this

01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:12.119
thing and you're actually screwing me over I want compensation for this it's

01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:14.839
more like let's just gouge everyone we possibly can for as much money as we

01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:19.160
possibly can I bought the guy who actually invented it so now like so now

01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:24.079
I'm just going to sue everyone going to hoard all of the like awesomeness for

01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:26.160
myself yeah so someone claimed to have a

01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:30.599
shopping cart patent now like I said I don't know everything behind the story

01:06:27.720 --> 01:06:37.279
but shopping cart for online carts so just like okay let's attack everyone

01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:39.520
like everyone and then New Egg just

01:06:37.279 --> 01:06:44.599
steps up with lawyer power and just goes no and just stops some before he

01:06:42.520 --> 01:06:49.559
actually got a was able to do pretty much anything Newegg kind of St stood up

01:06:47.319 --> 01:06:53.400
took the charge and just demolished which is pretty cool because I'm pretty

01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:57.960
tired of patent trolls yeah I mean one of the one of the important things to

01:06:55.039 --> 01:07:02.200
note about patent trolls is that they generally have no intention of actually

01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:06.039
doing anything with the patent so a great example of that would be someone

01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:09.240
like rambus where they invented a bunch of cool stuff to do with memory and

01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:13.400
that's cool I mean that's fine but the reality of it is that was a long time

01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:17.640
ago and at this point everyone's using the technology and everyone's pretty

01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:24.160
familiar with how it all works and you weren't going to build any of this stuff

01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:26.279
anyway so sort of you know pee or get

01:07:24.160 --> 01:07:31.599
off the pot so to speak um you know Cal calm down calm down so

01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:35.839
don't don't worry about it um so actually another topic that I wanted to

01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:41.359
talk about was the German court that ruled internet and essential

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:47.799
service so there was uh there was sort of a shenanigans that went down where um

01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:54.799
a German Court actually ruled that the internet is essential enough to your

01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:56.279
life that if an ISP so an internet

01:07:54.799 --> 01:08:01.279
service provider um causes any downtime in your internet

01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:07.680
service that you should be compensated for it does okay your thoughts I think

01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:12.000
this is actually kind of cool um but come on that's insane but then I worry

01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:16.640
well there can be seriously critical stuff you can not get a job okay you can

01:08:14.839 --> 01:08:21.480
not you can fail an assignment you can like a lot of seriously big- time things

01:08:18.719 --> 01:08:24.199
can happen and once you uh bring this to your employer and go oh my internet was

01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:29.679
down even if you have evidence they're just like whatever I don't care okay but

01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:33.120
it has to be like if there's a scheduled downtime then I don't think that should

01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:38.080
count okay so the flip side of that argument is there are reliable internet

01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:41.279
connections they're called business internet connections they cost three

01:08:39.759 --> 01:08:49.400
times as much if your internet's that essential to you then you don't mind spending some money on it honestly no

01:08:45.719 --> 01:08:51.719
like really consumer grade basically if

01:08:49.400 --> 01:08:56.239
you buy a consumer grade okay here you buy a semi- truck where it's a

01:08:53.759 --> 01:09:01.279
commercial vehicle the expect is that thing runs for a million damn miles they

01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:05.640
put lots of maintenance on it they put lots of Maintenance in it but the

01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:09.000
maintenance is scheduled maintenance that is like it's spec for that

01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:14.400
maintenance right it's intended to do that M if if that truck broke down in

01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:17.040
300,000 kilm or 300,000 miles or whatever but you know let's use

01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:22.120
kilometers because that's easier for me if it broke down in 300,000 km how mad

01:09:19.839 --> 01:09:27.560
are you pretty freaking madad are expensive whereas if you buy a Toyota

01:09:24.040 --> 01:09:29.640
Corolla and it runs for 300,000 clicks

01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:35.199
they're like yeah I got my I got my life cycle out of that if it breaks down and

01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:37.040
you have like okay here if a semi breaks

01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:41.759
down because of a shoddy piece of electronics that makes sh the window not

01:09:39.799 --> 01:09:47.319
open or like the door locked stop working like my parents SUV the uh the

01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:50.560
uh the trunk you can't open it because the electronic door doohickey doesn't

01:09:49.400 --> 01:10:00.400
work and they had to take it back to the dealership and get it serviced a couple times um if that happened on a prograde

01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:02.360
vehicle I says pardon yes but at the

01:10:00.400 --> 01:10:06.960
same time like hey not to bring up me being on Tellis again and have a 50

01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:12.640
kilobits a second upload but we would lose Internet like not like once or

01:10:10.280 --> 01:10:18.199
twice a month like possibly more than once a day you're on tell us that's what

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:19.880
you get what the heck why but as a

01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:23.760
consumer you have the right to change it guess how far away the Hub is the Telles

01:10:21.480 --> 01:10:28.159
Hub I don't even know I could throw something and hit it from my house

01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:32.199
you're pretty buff though but that's not the point like it's literally right

01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:36.560
there like it's a it's across the street and a little bit down this is consumer

01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:38.800
grade technology T us has tell us tell

01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:41.560
us has professional grade uh professional grade service that they

01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:45.880
provide that is more reliable probably still sucks okay you don't there's no

01:10:44.480 --> 01:10:49.560
point hating on T us you don't even you're not even a customer of theirs

01:10:47.480 --> 01:10:54.640
anymore so there you go I know I'm just like okay here another thing anything

01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:58.560
prograde costs more and people understand that in well they used to

01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:02.199
understand that consumer grade stuff doesn't entitle you to the same level of

01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:07.640
reliability that prograde stuff does I mean a zon with a super micro

01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:10.320
motherboard with ECC RAM that's error

01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:15.640
cheing all the time and like a raid array of of boot drives with redundant

01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:19.719
power supplies that thing better not ever turn off unexpectedly but this is

01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:23.520
all at the same time even with the semi-truck this is stuff where it's all

01:11:21.679 --> 01:11:26.920
on your end you could perform maintenance not necessarily you could

01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:32.800
monitor things you could perform you perform maintenance all you want on that consumer grade car it's not going to go

01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:38.679
a million kilometers it doesn't matter it's just not designed to do that and

01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:40.480
things like a water pump will fail we

01:11:38.679 --> 01:11:45.199
understand this we accept this in a consumer grade motherboard in consumer

01:11:43.040 --> 01:11:49.920
grade memory that's not doing any error correction and checking um you know what

01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:55.239
you can have a random you can have a random solar flare that blasts it with

01:11:52.800 --> 01:12:00.080
something flips a bit the thing BL screens it turns off we accept this in

01:11:57.440 --> 01:12:04.719
server grade it's going to find that fli bit it's going to say no it's going to

01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:08.760
flip it back and that computer is not going to turn off most of the time okay

01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:12.639
I'm Happ you at it most of the time most of the time but that's what we're

01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:17.480
talking about professional grade versus consumer grade so an internet connection

01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:20.120
that is consumer grade should be like any other consumer grade thing I can't

01:12:18.639 --> 01:12:23.679
even play Devil's Advocate this much because I kind of I don't think the

01:12:22.400 --> 01:12:28.400
internet certifier should actually get in trouble because there's so many things can happen but it would just be

01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:34.679
kind of like if if internet goes down for a

01:12:31.400 --> 01:12:36.520
day and there's no like natural disaster

01:12:34.679 --> 01:12:40.560
and it's just like all their fault maybe you should get a free day I mean the

01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:46.280
thing that I'd like to see is more competition with isps yeah especially

01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:48.159
Canada so while I don't agree that we

01:12:46.280 --> 01:12:54.560
should be penalizing an internet service Prov it's like um there's a there's a um

01:12:51.440 --> 01:12:56.520
there's like a social what do you call

01:12:54.560 --> 01:13:01.199
when a group tries to bring change to different institutions and stuff social

01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:06.159
social social movement okay there's a social movement called open media in BC

01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:10.520
that's all about like holy crap internet service providers and cell phone

01:13:07.480 --> 01:13:11.800
providers are just killing everyone and

01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:17.520
they're like trying to bring reform because we're all just getting decimated with pretty crappy service for

01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:23.840
incredible prices and there's like when there's a social movement being like hey

01:13:20.719 --> 01:13:26.199
guys what the heck and it's similar in a

01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:30.880
lot of places so while I don't think that we should be able to penalize an

01:13:28.080 --> 01:13:35.080
internet provider for not having service we should be able to switch to someone

01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:40.440
else that I believe we should have the right to choose if they suck and if they

01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:44.040
annoy enough customers then we should have the right to tell them to go shove

01:13:42.639 --> 01:13:49.360
it somewhere and we should be able to go to someone else unfortunately when there's two cuz if we have like a

01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:52.360
restaurant analogy restaurants probably like the perfect way to look at it is

01:13:50.719 --> 01:13:57.760
you have a million choices for restaurants if they serve you like

01:13:55.120 --> 01:14:02.520
poison food like if an internet provider somehow like serves you a virus serves

01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:05.520
you a virus then they owe you something but if a restaurant if you go to a

01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:11.960
restaurant and they're like we're out of chicken McNuggets and what do you say you say oh

01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:16.400
you owe me money for the gas that I spent to come here to buy chicken

01:14:14.679 --> 01:14:19.520
McNuggets and you didn't have no they don't which is why I said I can't even

01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:24.840
really play Devils have I mean that's just bad luck I like yeah I think like

01:14:23.120 --> 01:14:28.760
but again like and you can go to a different

01:14:26.639 --> 01:14:32.320
restaurant yeah but you can't just flip isps every day you can't just be like oh

01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:36.480
I don't have internet today I'm going to flip to tell us for today like and then

01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:40.960
but the flip side of that is if it's so important to you to have internet on

01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:44.000
that day then you should have a prograde connection or what you should do is you

01:14:42.719 --> 01:14:47.080
should get a low balancing router they're only about 150 bucks and get two

01:14:46.120 --> 01:14:51.080
different and you should have two different isps honestly like it's not

01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:55.320
okay you looked at me like I was crazy for saying it it's expensive and a lot

01:14:52.719 --> 01:14:59.159
of people can't afford that no but a lot of people can't afford semi- trucks so

01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:05.280
they're going to have to figure out how to live without a sem like I said I don't actually really disagree with you

01:15:02.320 --> 01:15:10.480
I don't think a ISP should get in like big financial trouble for having an

01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:11.960
outage like and when you consider if

01:15:10.480 --> 01:15:17.719
they have to compensate I don't know 100,000

01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:22.080
customers for a day or half a day day or half a day actually that adds up pretty

01:15:19.679 --> 01:15:26.000
quickly and it's not like that and okay like again I'm not like a bleeding heart

01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:29.679
oh the poor internet service providers they're they're pretty balling I mean

01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:34.920
they're pretty balling but the reality of it is they had all their staff on

01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:37.280
that day yeah it that it's not like

01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:42.120
their operation shut down be and if if anything their staff were working harder

01:15:39.040 --> 01:15:44.400
that day because things were getting

01:15:42.120 --> 01:15:48.960
real but then wow does it and wow doesn't make it super popular I know a

01:15:46.679 --> 01:15:53.800
couple different MMOs do it if if it's down for a day you get a day that kind

01:15:51.120 --> 01:15:58.600
of is a thing with some games not all of them with some MMO games right I know

01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:03.800
wow did it I know back when I played EQ this is all old knowledge I don't know

01:16:01.120 --> 01:16:06.600
but like I know EQ way back in the day kind of thought about it I don't

01:16:05.080 --> 01:16:10.440
remember if they actually ever did but I mean look at it even something like okay

01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:13.719
like I would go as far as to say when it comes to isps there's almost things that

01:16:12.320 --> 01:16:19.280
they can't control but that's what I said if it's something like a natural disaster or something along those lines

01:16:17.080 --> 01:16:25.000
okay okay what if there's just like a power outage because you know someone

01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:30.239
screwed up there isn't usually just random power it is it can be for for

01:16:28.280 --> 01:16:34.960
what is it is it their fault is it BC Hydro or is it sh you'll never know like

01:16:33.040 --> 01:16:39.040
if there's a power outage is BC Hydro going to yeah not really CU I would

01:16:37.360 --> 01:16:42.920
argue that electricity is a much more essential service than in fact I would

01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:47.960
even argue that electricity is not an essential service if it's down for a few

01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:49.679
hours or even a day depends who you are

01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:54.440
why what if you're living off life support okay if you're on life support

01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:55.400
but again hospitals are PR grade they

01:16:54.440 --> 01:17:03.239
have but not everyone that's running off that like stuff that requires electricity to

01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:04.480
live is at a hospital okay that's true

01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:10.320
but then at that point what are you going to do give them 50 bucks because they died don't like I don't know I'm

01:17:08.639 --> 01:17:14.280
just and they're I can tell you right now they're using equipment that is

01:17:12.080 --> 01:17:18.080
prograde any medical equipment is prograde not consumer grade and is and

01:17:16.639 --> 01:17:22.360
they've probably got battery backups of some sort or generator or something

01:17:20.280 --> 01:17:25.440
something but I'm just I'm just but I would say that for the general The

01:17:24.040 --> 01:17:30.440
General I'm trying to keep it interesting by fighting for the other side but I don't fully agree with it

01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:34.400
okay well I don't actually think ISP should get in trouble just for that does

01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:39.880
anyone dare me to take the legendary axe to his keyboard just to

01:17:37.639 --> 01:17:46.239
to I think that would be the point where I get fired yeah out of a

01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:51.360
cannon that wouldn't that would be Beyond not

01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:52.719
cool um okay well we're pretty close to

01:17:51.360 --> 01:18:00.199
wrapping up cuz I don't know about you but I'm getting tired oh sorry I just

01:17:55.800 --> 01:18:03.000
um so Intel has MSA 525 ssds which are

01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:07.880
basically a tweaked 520 so it's a high performance sand Force Drive which means

01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:14.159
that you can get up to a 240 gig very high performance SSD in almost any form

01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:17.080
factor now um and along those same lines

01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:24.199
of shrinking storage tashiba now has an external 2 and 1 12 inch 2 tbte

01:18:20.040 --> 01:18:26.120
drive USB 3 pretty standard that's

01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:30.400
pretty Beast holy crap right that's pretty Beast how long ago was it that

01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:35.320
you could only get 2 terab of capacity in a 3 and in fact 3 and 1/2 in drives

01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:39.560
are still maxed out at 4 terabytes yeah yeah I was just going to say that's

01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:44.440
crazy and like the the average one is two I think right now storage is just

01:18:41.480 --> 01:18:49.440
getting so much smaller like it hasn't it's been it wasn't since we went from 5

01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:53.520
and a/4 in being the standard for hard drives down to 3 and 1/2 in being the

01:18:51.480 --> 01:18:58.480
standard for hard drives that we've seen a miniaturization of storage devices

01:18:56.120 --> 01:19:04.600
like this so not only is the performance going like this uh well on SSD it's more

01:19:01.080 --> 01:19:06.360
like going like this yeah um but we're

01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:10.679
actually seeing newer and smaller form factors so ssds brought huge performance

01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:14.080
in small capacities into these two and a half inch form factors now they've taken

01:19:12.679 --> 01:19:19.280
that same performance and they've moved it down to MSA which is absolutely tiny

01:19:16.679 --> 01:19:25.760
I mean mushkin has a 480 gig M just what Madness right do they sell

01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:28.880
that much no of course cuz I see I know but I see a lot of guys that are just

01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:33.040
like oh yeah we released this new baller MSA thing and I'm like I don't see MSA

01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:40.000
move that much like I never see it on forums stuff it does but it moves uh MSA

01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:42.880
sells to a different consumer MSA is not

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:45.400
for uh a desktop Hardware Enthusiast because what are you going to do with it

01:19:44.080 --> 01:19:50.199
but there's so many desktop boards that built in not that many there's like

01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:52.400
three that's a pretty good amount what do you mean that's a pretty good amount

01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:58.000
that's a pretty good amount for something that I've never seen anyone

01:19:54.239 --> 01:20:00.080
buy ever okay no MSA is not for the

01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:04.560
Enthusiast desktop guys because why bother you have an Enthusiast desktop

01:20:02.120 --> 01:20:07.679
know get a 2 and a half inch like velcro it to something don't worry about it but

01:20:06.320 --> 01:20:13.280
then server why don't they just put it in SSD no no not for Server then what

01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:19.040
for notebooks general consumers the guy who

01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:24.280
buys a Macbook or some Ultra Book and is like oh the only way to expand my

01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:29.920
storage is probably to get a bigger SSD my device only supports MSA so they buy

01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:34.159
one and these are people who okay so enthusiasts are more likely to sort of

01:20:32.080 --> 01:20:39.040
have a fast upgrade cycle or whatever else but a general consumer who's not

01:20:36.360 --> 01:20:44.000
necessarily as educated is more likely to see a need find a solution and just

01:20:42.280 --> 01:20:48.960
act on it because they don't want to do all the research that would be involved

01:20:46.280 --> 01:20:52.320
in setting up a Nas so that they can back up their data there or use a cloud

01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:55.600
service to I they don't want to deal with that they just they want a laptop

01:20:54.360 --> 01:21:00.120
with the hard drive and they want it to be bigger that's it and if you look at

01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:04.560
it from a dollar per Gigabyte perspective which is how an Enthusiast

01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:10.360
looks at it you can go oh that's $500 for only 500 gigs instead I could buy

01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:14.320
this drive which is18 gigs for only $99 a better value yeah whereas if you're a

01:21:12.440 --> 01:21:20.159
general consumer you're going I spent $1,500 on this notebook that has a 128

01:21:18.360 --> 01:21:24.719
gig storage device or I can spend spend it by that much more $2,000 to have four

01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:30.000
times as much storage device so I'm spending 30% more to 4X my storage and

01:21:28.360 --> 01:21:33.360
when when that's one of the main specs in the computer you care about I have a

01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:37.719
better notebook now I spent this much more yeah that's another way of looking

01:21:35.320 --> 01:21:42.600
at it and that might be if you bought an equivalent expense notebook you might be

01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:45.679
happier and get more value out of the one that you upgraded because what you

01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:52.120
actually needed more of was storage space instead of just throwing more money at a computer and getting maybe

01:21:49.360 --> 01:21:56.239
only 50 gigs more did I do my Windows Phone 8 talk before or after we thought

01:21:54.280 --> 01:22:00.280
we were streaming oh I don't remember anymore I

01:21:59.040 --> 01:22:03.480
have no idea we also have to do a giveaway oh yeah we have to do a Windows

01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:07.719
8 givea away

01:22:05.480 --> 01:22:12.800
oh I don't have any questions I don't have any questions what should we do

01:22:11.120 --> 01:22:17.239
let's go with like a Linus Tech tips related

01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:20.360
question what OS did you wait wait wait

01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:20.360
hold on hold on tell me

01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:27.880
first well that's lame I don't I don't even remember what it is I just remember

01:22:26.440 --> 01:22:33.679
there was that thing like what else do we do operating system St uh let's

01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:40.560
do you know what um let's let twitch

01:22:37.719 --> 01:22:44.719
chat tell us um twitch chat no no no no no they're not picking the question

01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:50.639
let's let twitch chat tell us if I ever did the Windows Phone 8

01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:52.120
thing um okay I talked about it already

01:22:50.639 --> 01:22:56.920
Okay they say I talked about it already oh okay okay so I'll pick a question

01:22:54.560 --> 01:23:01.880
question while you juggle or something I I can't juggle you can't juggle oh well

01:22:58.679 --> 01:23:04.159
that's a shame well everyone's going to

01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:07.360
be ridiculously bored now no they won't be bored I don't know what you're talk

01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:11.639
about let's go twitch chat what's up how's it going how are you guys you guys

01:23:09.480 --> 01:23:17.120
are saying yeah you're not even putting the twitch chat up on the thing so a

01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:25.080
press two two don't press two over there whatever hey guys how's it going how's

01:23:21.320 --> 01:23:27.159
life I'm good hey

01:23:25.080 --> 01:23:30.679
you're so lame no one's saying anything interesting say stuff that's interesting

01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:35.719
they're gonna say stuff that's inappropriate yeah I've seen some inappropriate stuff already hey there's

01:23:34.040 --> 01:23:40.280
a dog I don't know how that guy did that that was actually pretty cool hello from

01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:44.760
England hi how's it going I don't know what to say you guys saw my

01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:49.239
keyboard that was kind of all I had up on my sleeve someone has a dog another

01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:53.400
person has a person I'm good someone asked me how I am Destiny's question I

01:23:51.719 --> 01:23:57.639
didn't see Destiny's question read Twitter okay

01:23:55.239 --> 01:24:02.040
we will switch where's the browser there we

01:23:58.679 --> 01:24:05.639
go oh oh oh it's broken if you don't

01:24:02.040 --> 01:24:05.639
entertain them better you're fired

01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:12.520
oh interactions Crisis 3 Bet has been

01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:17.239
fantastic that's cool I want to play Crisis 3 beta needs weapons balancing

01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:22.560
that's not surprising though I'm going to go with like a really stupid piece of

01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:26.760
lonus trivia so I'm actually going to I'm going to be narcissistic enough to

01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:31.600
ask question about myself yeah does it have anything to do

01:24:29.480 --> 01:24:36.840
with Windows no what that's the point is it not yeah so

01:24:35.679 --> 01:24:44.800
then you're just completely avoiding the point yeah we're deviating from the

01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:46.639
point okay okay um how many inches

01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:52.520
taller than me is

01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:56.800
slick and you win a copy of Windows 8 I don't even know that answer

01:24:55.719 --> 01:25:02.560
okay so we're going to Twitter we're going to Twitter let's see who gets it right

01:24:59.080 --> 01:25:05.960
first you can only submit one guess each

01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:07.520
18 new interactions uh oh okay so let's

01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:11.320
go down I don't I don't know how tall slick is anymore okay hold on hold on how tall are

01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:19.400
you can't do

01:25:17.080 --> 01:25:28.600
math Okay so we've got some guesses rolling in okay we got someone saying 5

01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:33.520
in uh 6 in 5 in 3 in 4 in 5 in 7 in 5

01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:35.679
five 2 in 6 17 in come on Brian how

01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:44.480
short do you really think that I am that's not fair 4 in seven in taller

01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:47.280
okay moving down down down okay here we

01:25:44.480 --> 01:25:55.840
go eight six five 2 fo4 in thanks a lot

01:25:53.040 --> 01:25:58.880
man oh over 9,000 in I don't know what the answer is so I have no idea if we've

01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:05.920
seen it or not cuz I don't know how tall you are 6' 3 3 in 4 in 9 in 8 in 3 in 7

01:26:03.719 --> 01:26:10.000
in half an inch 20 new interactions no one's got it so far which is kind of

01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:14.000
funny is it uh what are your thoughts on the

01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:18.719
fx8350 yeah we're having a slightly different conversation right now which

01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:25.400
is uh very related to everything 9 in 4

01:26:18.719 --> 01:26:27.639
and 1 12 in 8 in 9 no one's C it yet

01:26:25.400 --> 01:26:33.440
this is fun this is like the stupidest game

01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:35.080
ever nope nobody's caught it yet I like

01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:39.960
that guy's comment I use a metric system I have no idea stes you know what

01:26:37.639 --> 01:26:46.760
tenaces you know thumbs up to you because you're awesome man you're a

01:26:42.639 --> 01:26:48.360
boss yeah you are definitely a boss

01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:53.639
Christian moly is the big

01:26:50.639 --> 01:26:56.400
winner so uh Christian I'm gonna go

01:26:53.639 --> 01:27:00.320
ahead and follow you on Twitter please send me a direct message on Twitter to

01:26:58.719 --> 01:27:05.600
claim your prize and I'll get you in touch with as always our Windows 8

01:27:03.040 --> 01:27:08.840
giveaway is sponsored by Timmy techtv so you can visit

01:27:07.280 --> 01:27:15.000
youtube.com/ Timmy TV and uh he has generously

01:27:12.400 --> 01:27:18.719
donated uh I think a total of five copies of Windows 8 for us to give away

01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:25.400
on these live streams thank you so much Timmy that's awesome and we've done how

01:27:21.400 --> 01:27:27.600
many so far we've done three

01:27:25.400 --> 01:27:31.440
four I have no idea we're going to keep giving them away until he tells us to

01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:41.080
stop making him broke and giving away his copies of Windows Eight um so I am 5

01:27:36.400 --> 01:27:43.480
foot 6 in and Slick is 64 64 so slick is

01:27:41.080 --> 01:27:48.360
10 inches taller than me that's why it always uh that's why it always hardcore

01:27:45.719 --> 01:27:54.199
breaks the uh the framing of any shot that we're both in like when he's been

01:27:50.480 --> 01:27:57.719
on um netlink weekly for example uh IP

01:27:54.199 --> 01:28:00.480
charger says he said 10 in first I I

01:27:57.719 --> 01:28:05.119
didn't see it so that's sort of a problem uh I'll follow you wait we can

01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:10.560
we can check the log that's the great thing about Twitter um so send me a message and

01:28:09.320 --> 01:28:18.199
we'll see if we can we'll see if we can sort it out if he's the winner then he's the winner and I apologize for uh for

01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:22.800
for ruining it for whatever else um speaking of Twitter unbox therapy is up

01:28:20.080 --> 01:28:25.600
here so uh unbox therapy is the one that I did the gaming peral giveaway away

01:28:24.320 --> 01:28:32.639
with I haven't actually talked to him about doing the prize announcement so we'll have to do that very very

01:28:29.440 --> 01:28:34.360
soon uh will we ever utilize 8way

01:28:32.639 --> 01:28:40.320
probably no time soon the drivers would just be a nightmare um I didn't know you

01:28:37.400 --> 01:28:44.840
were so small or slick so tall not that tall 64 is pretty tall it's like I'm not

01:28:43.400 --> 01:28:49.560
even the second tallest person in my group of friends

01:28:47.080 --> 01:28:53.199
mutant one of my best friends is 6'5 and then one of my good buddies is like 67

01:28:51.960 --> 01:29:00.400
when you don't shave you look like a Sasquatch that's not even that bad you just don't

01:28:57.040 --> 01:29:01.719
really grow facial hair well no wow or

01:29:00.400 --> 01:29:08.119
you mean like why you going to take a cheap drop I'm not

01:29:04.280 --> 01:29:09.800
even you're fired damn it that's tce you

01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.920
guys see why I have to fire this guy all the

01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:19.560
time let's do a little bit more Twitter Q&A how about The Unofficial Tech tips

01:29:17.400 --> 01:29:23.360
Game servers how do I feel about them have you even heard about them no

01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:27.520
they're pretty cool and like I think he's actually the one it up and it goes

01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:33.000
like L Tech tips.com star all capitals unofficial

01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:36.679
star so they're not trying to like be sleazy about it they're very official

01:29:34.480 --> 01:29:41.119
very cool as officially unofficial as long as they're unofficial and it's just

01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:43.800
you know lineus Tech tips.com Forum members and they are getting together

01:29:42.400 --> 01:29:47.600
and playing some games that's great I mean that's I it got it got brought up

01:29:46.080 --> 01:29:51.760
by a mod just to make sure that I knew about it he wasn't like I think this is a bad idea or whatever just so that I

01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:55.960
knew about it and then I checked it out and I was like okay well he put the big

01:29:53.639 --> 01:29:59.320
star unofficial star thing so we don't have to moderate it or anything it's

01:29:57.480 --> 01:30:04.000
just free roaming and I think it's cool that's cool um Logan said he sent the

01:30:02.080 --> 01:30:08.239
Skyrim mods yes he did so we have the full list of Skyrim mods so we can PC

01:30:06.280 --> 01:30:13.040
ify it the same way that he did uh okay there's a whole lot of uh oh

01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:20.440
there's a lot of people who are saying they said 10 inches first well it didn't show up on Twitter so I don't know we'll

01:30:16.360 --> 01:30:22.239
have to just go back and check it out um

01:30:20.440 --> 01:30:27.199
okay so I think that's pretty much it for tonight

01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:31.239
good night everyone and thank you for thank you for bearing with us when we

01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:35.440
had again more technical difficulties we really thought that we finally had made

01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:39.440
it so that we started on time yeah and we're really bummed out that we were

01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:44.239
like half an hour of late yeah we we started on time today we were we were

01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:48.040
filming and like talking and going through stuff for like half an hour yeah

01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:51.600
for late for people that just we even fist bumped at one point during that

01:30:49.719 --> 01:30:55.080
half an hour yeah like that's how that's how good of a com you guys missed it I

01:30:53.239 --> 01:31:00.760
mean we enjoy it it was actually it was pretty all right I enjoy your conversation sir it was good I'm not

01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:04.920
trying to make it awkward no I know and like it it was I do enjoy

01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:10.800
your oh God it was the first time we talked about a lot of the things we

01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:17.440
talked about on the stream so I don't know oh well

01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:17.440
okay bye everyone
