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The WAN Show - R9 390X UNBOXED! Also I guess Apple WWDC - June 12, 2015

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2016-05-06 · 16,840 words · ~84 min read

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0:00 I think we're live welcome to the W show I um have my guest co-host here telling

0:06 me that he thinks this is probably the least prepared that the WAN Show has

0:11 ever been to which I replied um that was

0:15 like 40 seconds ago I actually don't remember what I said but the point is

0:19 he's wrong there have probably been less prepared ones uh LC is going to be back

0:24 next week he is on vacation in Taiwan

0:27 which must be super duper nice for him I wish I was on vacation not in Taiwan in

0:31 particular it's very hot there but uh

0:34 actually you know Vancouver is a good place to be this time of year okay I don't I wish I was on vacation at my

0:38 house that would be perfect it's good weather these days yeah I wish I didn't

0:42 have to be at work today but I do have to be at work today just for you guys so

0:47 we've got a bunch of great topics today the first unboxing of the R9 390x leaked

0:54 uh Sony announced their A7 R2 I'm going

0:57 to refrain from calling it The Mark 2 like all the people in our office here

1:01 son doesn't call it Mark 2 that's Canon they're the only ones that do that also

1:05 anyone else who calls something the whatever Mark I it's fairly common so

1:09 don't worry too much about that WWDC happened this week and apple

1:14 announced actually not a not a lot

1:17 compared to you know last year when they

1:20 actually had like Hardware to show off uh no this time it is all about software

1:26 changes but some of them are pretty important so we'll talk about that and

1:29 OCC did a keynote as well the launch time

1:33 frame is now confirmed hopefully it's kind of

1:37 confirmed it was very vague still yeah okay so the launch time frame is

1:43 confirmed and they showed off a new controller so uh uh you know I'll

1:48 introduce our special guest after the intro

2:00 uh no us they can hear

2:09 us like who is that

2:13 guy oh sorry I forgot Squarespace today

2:18 also linda.com and

2:22 freshbooks fresh you know what I'm going to do I am going to proactively move the

2:27 right part of the scene to why have I never done that before I don't know so

2:32 when I roll it again for the outro it'll play it might I forgot to do my hair

2:36 today also this color doesn't translate to the camera very well it's just like

2:41 straight up either the monitor can't display it or the camera cannot capture

2:44 it it's very it's much brighter in person much much brighter it's an

2:48 eyesore in person that's what I'm going for all right so I've got people asking

2:52 who is that in Luke's Place don't worry he has not taken Luke's Place although

2:56 there is a funny story about this guy and Luke's Place this is is the the

3:00 artist formerly known as wheels from NC

3:03 Tech tips is no longer with them and you know how he came to be involved in the

3:08 NC Tech tips team was actually he was

3:12 the okay I'm trying to think of a way to say this without it being rude uh he was

3:16 my second choice back when I hired Luke uh they

3:21 were the two that I actually had it narrowed down to and it ended up being

3:25 Luke who got the job and because I only had room for one benchmarking monkey at

3:29 the time and it wasn't until years later when he got far too expensive that I

3:34 actually had a place for another one that Chris became available so um what

3:39 do you do now exactly I do uh chemical marketing I basically it's a lot of

3:44 paper pushing right now it sounds like the most boring thing ever well

3:48 eventually it's going to be digital paper pushing and then wow I know you're

3:53 like bringing it into the 21st century I know we're just going to get 365

4:00 Office 365 nice we're just building our

4:03 servers now and everything all right so guys we got a great show for you this

4:07 week I did cover some of the topics uh that's pretty much all I have so uh we

4:11 might do some Twitter blitzes and stuff like that I've got a lot of people in

4:15 twitch chat asking when is the next scrapyard Wars coming so they are

4:18 scheduled so we actually have a plan every Saturday night hour time at

4:23 midnight so technically Sunday morning a new part of scrapyard Wars 2 will be

4:28 released so it'll be one week ahead on vessel and then it'll be whatever people

4:33 on vessel saw last week on YouTube until we're done we are committed to the

4:38 weekly Cadence so we're not going to do that thing with multi-part stuff anymore

4:42 where we actually don't have most of it filmed until we start releasing it and

4:47 then we get busy with other things and then it's a month between Parts no we're

4:51 not doing that anymore the new policy at Linus Media Group is we film the

4:56 entire thing and then at least it's only

4:59 editing that has to be done as we go and

5:02 I've got a lot of people that are concerned about you know multi-part

5:06 stuff but the reality of it is I've talked about it on the show before it is

5:10 what it is it takes one of my guys a week to edit it we maintain all the

5:14 other nine videos per week that we do on

5:18 Linus Tech tips Channel Super Fun and on

5:21 Techquickie and so the rest of my staff has to work on that so I can only tie up

5:25 one guy as a dedicated editor for scrapyard Wars so why don't we jum into

5:30 our first topic here have you seen this unboxing I have I did see this earlier

5:35 today it's been pulled down really y so the unboxing is gone and then when I saw

5:40 in the lonus tech tips thread that the 390x unboxing was gone I actually went

5:47 over to double check CU you can't believe anything you read on the internet so I went over on the um on

5:53 YouTube to check and the video was gone

5:57 and there was a video that had been posted like 10 minutes

6:01 prior okay that had also been pulled

6:05 down oh but you can read the first snippet of the description so I'm going

6:09 to I'm going to find that for you so all we know about the 390x from these

6:14 unboxings hold on so we can still see them in the search results I'm going to

6:18 screen share with you guys here we go is

6:22 uh here r9390x unboxing is it is it

6:26 pulled already oh it looks gone where is

6:30 where did his video go red gaming Tech

6:33 no it wasn't it was like super unprofessional like just like some dude

6:37 he he looked like he didn't sound like he knew like he wasn't up on everything

6:42 he was wondering where the missing Crossfire fingers were right and then he

6:45 was which if he know a 290x those don't

6:49 exist on that GPU anymore the Hawaii

6:52 yeah so and then he was calling the back plate a heat SN which it technically is

6:57 a heat sink by the way so people were hating on him pretty hard for that and I

7:01 was like come on you guys are just you guys are just being jerks about it but

7:05 you know what I can't even find it I can't even find it in the search results

7:09 anymore why don't I take out R9 maybe just 390x unboxing is going to bring

7:14 this puppy up for prob G it probably just took a while for it to propagate

7:18 through all the servers including search look at that but I did see it and it was y yely

7:24 okay so basically what the card looks like and I don't actually have any specs

7:30 or information for the 390x so I guess I can speculate what it looks like is an

7:35 R9 290x with 8 gigs of RAM which is one

7:40 of the prevailing rumors about the R9

7:43 390x much to the disappointment I think

7:47 of everyone while it's mostly the AMD

7:50 fans that I see posting that they're really upset that we could be looking at

7:54 round two of Rebrand the thing um the

7:58 NVIDIA fans should be equally upset because even though AMD's market share

8:03 in discreet Graphics is what like 30% I think less than 30% right now L than

8:07 yeah when they do something when AMD makes a move or even threatens to make a

8:11 move Look boom we got seven excuse me we got 980 TI because NVIDIA wants to like

8:17 proactively stomp on whatever AMD is trying to do on the radon side that is

8:22 how we get NVIDIA to not be asleep at the wheel and concerned about putting

8:27 tegas into cars if AMD does stuff we will get better

8:32 graphics cards and better pricing from NVIDIA so we should we should all be

8:35 happy if 390x is is freaking awesome but

8:38 it doesn't really look that way the prevailing rumor now is that Fiji XT and

8:43 Fiji which will be possibly available in water and air cooled versions and like a

8:48 little tiny card with a radiator there's lots of lots of pictures leaking all the

8:51 time are going to be the only allnew

8:57 gpus maybe maybe maybe the rumor is they

9:01 have enhanced the 29x they the Hawaii is

9:05 now an enhanced version but we don't

9:08 know what enhanced means could just mean a higher claw could mean there was one

9:13 article with very little credibility that R9 290x was not a fully featured

9:20 Hawaii chip in the first place really I don't know if I buy that because I can't

9:26 imagine a world where AMD thought that

9:29 that power hungry of a chip was GNA have

9:33 more functional units enabled on it that'd be really hot

9:37 so yeah I'm I'm really not sure I mean we we I don't think we ever got die

9:43 shots from them so it's it's it's possible it's theoretically possible um

9:47 the same thing looks like it did happen with Tonga where we got a 256bit card

9:54 and then oh all of a sudden oh hold on

9:57 maybe it's 384 bit Which Scott Watson from Tech report has been saying since

10:00 it launched so it looks like some of the

10:04 rebranding might actually be unlocking

10:07 or a slight retooling but uh Fiji and

10:11 Fiji XT which are not going to be cheap in all likelihood are probably going to

10:15 be the the only ones that are actually

10:18 new uh one cool thing that did come from the 390x unboxing is that pricing was

10:24 effectively revealed yes um I can't remember there was a Best Buy listing

10:28 too I I think wasn't there stock at Best Buy yep yep there

10:33 was a there was a Best Buy uh leak yesterday I believe Source uh Source

10:39 here is Reddit I'm just going to hold on I got to sign out of the Forum so that

10:43 I'm not uh doing

10:47 that R9

10:50 39x oh please work you searchbox

10:55 you um there we go all right I'll screen share with you guys here

11:00 r9390x unboxing

11:03 r9390x uh Best Buy there we go in stock at Best Buy so

11:09 it's XFX is all over all of these leaks

11:13 um this image is visible when you're when you're logged in haha anyway it's

11:18 an XFX card and pricing is I believe uh

11:21 shoot I want to say is it $3.99 or is it

11:24 450 can't remember for the right now the Reddit thread say y okay so the Reddit

11:29 says 450 I believe that was what the gentleman who posted the unboxing video

11:34 had also said that he paid so that is a

11:37 little bit scary especially when we consider that the r9290 and the R9 290x

11:43 and this is something I think a lot of people have forgotten perform pretty

11:46 damn well near the same because R9 or R9

11:50 290x used to be priced so much higher

11:54 that r9290 was the one that everyone was buying and then R9 290x got a lot more

11:59 reasonable in price thanks to the fact that it basically performed the same and

12:03 you can pick up R9 290 x's on New Egg

12:07 for uh 360 bucks or as low as oh is that

12:12 $299.99 that's a good value that's with a mail and rebate however so $30 of that

12:16 discount is an Mir but still if you're going to tell me that for another two

12:21 excuse me another four gigs of RAM for eight gigs of RAM I'm going to be paying

12:25 another $150 you better have something else

12:28 under the hood not only that but if you actually the

12:31 listing under this that 360 bucks for an 8 gig r928 uh 290x oh yeah that's 8 gigs

12:37 already it wouldn't be the first time this happened I mean back when uh r92

12:42 adx launched 7970 GHz Edition was a lot

12:46 cheaper and 7950 back when we first started lonus Media Group 7950 were the

12:52 card to buy and that continued well into the 280 and 280X life cycle because

12:59 they were just cheaper because they had an older model name so if you were Savvy

13:03 you were getting exactly the same card in that case yep and AMD even allows you

13:08 to Crossfire them so I'll be that's right show the same I mean is that the

13:11 ultimate admission of we didn't change anything if people are allowed to Crossfire 390x and three and 290 XS that

13:18 being said AMD has always been more flexible about allowing you to Crossfire

13:22 that's true different things where NVIDIA is just like it has to be exactly

13:25 the same nothing but exactly the same I find that really frustrating I mean they

13:30 they did ease up on it a little bit different clock speeds and different

13:33 vendors you can mismatch those yes um

13:37 but they used to allow mismatched memory amounts and they stopped actually in

13:43 fact there was uh I found some ancient guide when I was looking into it again

13:47 that referenced the cool bits tweak which used to be awesome cool bits was

13:52 freaking amazing until it completely disappeared off the face of the planet

13:56 um and and anyway so you could somehow blah blah blah mix and match uh video

14:01 memory and I believe that was on the NVIDIA site I sent them a memo about it

14:04 I was like Yo cool bits is so not a thing anymore and also you can't do that

14:09 anymore and I don't think it was ever even super official but no yeah now I me

14:14 there is no reason that you shouldn't have been able to SLI a GTX 680 and a

14:18 GTX 770 well even more recently Ed tried to SLI a 770s but they had different

14:24 memory and he's like yep nope nope tried

14:27 everything not work yep will not work they do not they do not allow it so

14:32 let's move on to our next topic here this was oh oh so that unboxing was

14:35 posted by inor in imor in IM

14:40 Igor maybe it's Ln Igor like liquid nitrogen I don't know what I don't know

14:44 what he's going for there the next one is Shan Angelo is the original poster

14:49 here and the original article is from n

14:52 gadet let's go ahead and pop that baby up on the screen this is looking like

14:58 one freak freaking heck of a camera if you are into that sort of thing this is

15:04 the A7 R2 Sony's fullframe mirrorless

15:09 DSLR sort ofish camera I mean yes it is

15:13 an SLR it's like it's a 42.4 megapixel

15:16 still camera like just absolutely

15:20 whooping the butt of its predecessor at

15:23 36.4 megapixels and even more

15:27 impressively this one shoots 4K video now so it looks like it's going up

15:31 straight against something like the Panasonic GH4 I'll be it at a higher

15:34 price but Sony is it's the one thing we

15:38 can really say this about Sony is the

15:42 Imaging sensor Master right now yep Sony

15:47 is at the top of their game and I think that and uh and what is it like um Sony

15:53 Financial I have no idea yeah I think those are that was that was it for

15:58 profit man and there might have been something

16:02 else and I apologize to any of the Sony fans who I missed something that

16:05 something else that Sony does well but um I mean we're fans of Sony I mean you

16:09 you use Sony for the fs y uh Tech tips uses ncx Tech tips uses the vg900 which

16:15 is the fullframe camcorder yep and uh

16:19 yeah so okay so it has the world's first

16:23 back illuminated sensor giving it a sensitivity of up to 102,000

16:29 400 ISO now sounds insane to be clear

16:33 that's it's not usable like you can't use that but that is still it like it

16:40 works you can turn it up that high you can get an image there's actually uh

16:45 shoot what was that previous uh Sony

16:49 seas in the Dark YouTube wasn't it the a7s that can see basically in a dark

16:54 room uh yeah I believe so so yeah yeah

16:57 hold on I had looked at a video uh earlier today and it was it just blew my

17:03 mind yeah here it is Sony a7s uh low

17:06 light test in complete darkness oh sorry

17:11 sorry sorry pick optic for more speed

17:15 with blazing fast internet this video is pretty Inc so

17:20 6400 ISO 12,800 ISO now even the fs700

17:24 the one we have I think goes up to 32,000 or something like that but this

17:28 is a whole other level so this is 50,000

17:32 I so a7s is bananas this room has no

17:35 lights on so they they Crank It Up even further

17:40 I think to yeah there it is I mean it gets grainy yeah I mean that's the

17:44 that's what happens when you crank up there it is that's 400,000 ISO and you

17:47 can see if I zoom in um that is some

17:51 super super duper grainy footage but the

17:55 fact that it can see anything is pretty darn impressive yeah uh what else do we

18:01 have to say about

18:04 this ount camera that's okay because um

18:08 you know hopefully we will get an adapter from our friends over Aton yeah

18:14 metabones thank you we'll get a speed booster can you imagine this thing with

18:17 a speed booster that's pretty impressive I must say it's going to be ridiculous

18:22 um five access image stabilization is another thing now it's not cheap um they

18:27 are targeting $3,200 so for people who are kind of

18:31 like GH4 A7 R2 wow $1,200 is an awful lot of

18:39 money not to mention that Panasonic has that new uh there's that newer cheaper

18:44 4K like Panasonic G7 I believe they have

18:47 a launch event in Vancouver in not that

18:50 long from now that one's only $1,000 also does 4K video recording but

18:57 unlike the GH4 does not have uh the most

19:00 modern sensor right so you know take

19:04 that for what it is I haven't seen any results from that one yet so hopefully

19:09 we'll learn a little bit more about that soon I'm sure the Vimeo crowd will upload all sorts of videos from it the

19:14 Vimeo crowd is is is pretty good about that aren't they y all right next topic

19:19 here guys posted by Sam Needham on the Forum I can't believe people were giving

19:23 poor Sam crap over this the first reply to the post which Sam entitled

19:29 Apple WWDC 2015 official thread was like

19:33 something along the lines of who died and made you the king of making an official thread for

19:38 wwc come on it's a nice thing to do Sam did a

19:43 great job of posting he curated it it

19:46 was nice it was good he did what to expect bunch of Stu OS 10

19:51 10.11 iOS 9 new streaming music service

19:54 which is all pretty much bang on uh there were a couple things that were

19:58 Miss missing particularly Apple watch things that we missing in the what to

20:02 expect but I think we still got to give Sam credit here he did a good job he did

20:07 a good job um so here's a bunch of pictures from the keynote but I've got

20:11 uh I I'll try and cover what I thought was the most interesting stuff they went

20:16 with os10 L capan I thought that was really weird I like it's a mountain

20:21 inside y so is this a sub

20:27 version they didn't change much so maybe

20:30 true maybe maybe that's what the the reason he was but it also sounds

20:35 ridiculous it's like what OS are you running El

20:39 Capitan yeah it doesn't sound very Apple

20:42 likee no it's you know lion cheetah you

20:46 can get behind those even even yose was kind of like okay well that's you know

20:50 the the first thing I thought of and and maybe this is just cuz I'm you know an

20:55 idiot but I went y Sam yep I kind of

20:59 went okay like if they'd gone with Everest I don't know

21:04 Kilimanjaro or something some of the some of the more famous natural

21:08 landmarks I think would have been more appropriate yeah anyway all right so

21:12 what have we got here and I know not all of you guys are necessarily the hugest

21:16 fans of Apple but I'm going to talk about what they did in the context of

21:21 why it's important for us even if we aren't particularly fans of Apple um I

21:26 so we'll start with uh actually you know what I told toally forgot to put you I'm

21:29 going to start with iOS 9 because uh there's something I forgot to put in my

21:33 notes and I remember just now so uh Force touch is coming to iOS 9 which

21:37 presumably means that an upcoming iPhone will also support Force touch force

21:41 touch is really cool I really hope that

21:46 either Apple's patent web around Force

21:49 touch is not strong enough or everyone will just blatantly copy them anyway

21:53 because I would love to see Force touch on more devices as soon as possible it's

21:58 really cool it's like really good haptic feedback like done properly yeah and and

22:05 it the funny thing about it was I actually got confused when I was working

22:10 on my review of the MacBook 2015 because

22:13 I was like I thought they said the touchpad doesn't move I thought I got to

22:17 use it like last weekend for the first time and people are all saying like oh

22:20 it's it's like as if you're using a touchpad that clicks I'm like how could

22:25 it be like really you're you're going to fool my fingers with vibrations

22:29 I was like I was doubtful but it works it really does work and even though I it

22:34 didn't work in Windows I forced myself to use OS 10 for a little bit of my time

22:38 with the device being able to have that second layer of functionality fixes the

22:44 lack of right click for me like if I could go press for left click press hard

22:49 for right click all of a sudden I never need to take my finger off the trackpad

22:54 anymore how cool is that I don't have to

22:57 worry about these these buttons that I always want and I want to be nice and

23:02 nice and you know tactile so that I can twoand it don't need that anymore very

23:07 very cool and if it also you know makes it thinner and gives you extra room for

23:11 these thin and lights to give more space for whatever else always better I mean

23:15 not that Apple necessarily crams anything that useful in them you razor

23:19 managed to that that's the thing people say like I see a lot of comparisons

23:23 between the blade and the MacBook Pro and I kind of go there is no comparison

23:27 razor managed to cram a GTX 970m in here

23:31 what did Apple do yep I mean I guess they put a bigger battery in okay that

23:35 has value to some people all right so let's talk other iOS stuff here um this

23:39 is really cool how did this take so long when someone calls you from an unknown

23:43 number it checks your like emails and and crap and tries to find it in an

23:48 email signature or something and is like hey this might be this

23:52 person yep that's awesome that's that's

23:56 smart that's freaking awesome I hope someone someone else copies it because I

24:00 don't always add people to my contacts like pretty much never unless I'm like

24:04 sure that this person is going to be contacting me for a while cuz it's it

24:07 takes extra time and effort and if it just can be like hey this is probably

24:11 Jane that called you about that thing you asked about you know that's way

24:15 better freaking awesome um Safari pinned

24:19 sites I can't believe they even showed this off I can't believe this was even a

24:23 highlight feature oh no sorry I'm back on out sorry I'm no I'm doing iOS first

24:27 sorry sorry sorry What's happen improved improved search with suggested people

24:32 apps nearby locations and news really cool they've also added an API for

24:37 search that's the big one obviously it's the developer conference the reason

24:41 that's important is now all of a sudden app developers can allow search to

24:45 search their app and they can actually deep link within their app so if I have

24:50 let's say um an app that I transcode videos from a server and then can load

24:55 them onto my device I could search for that and I could deep link and Play that

25:00 video directly and when I press back it'll go back to my search results Ah

25:05 that's pretty freaking cool yeah um they've added some proactive features

25:09 well that was a word they really wanted to use a lot here uh so for example when

25:13 you plug in a headphone jack a little music icon shows up in the bottom left

25:17 you know you can swipe up from the bottom right for the camera well now you can swipe get out of

25:22 here who's moving in the background that's burkel and I saw him with a

25:27 rubber band hand gun I think they have ruined their element of surprise and I

25:33 have I have a half empty container of orange juice that I'm going to throw at

25:37 you if you come in during the show yeah that's right it's been on

25:42 Nick's desk for God knows how long so it's probably rotten orange juice be

25:48 prepared um okay where are we going

25:51 right so that's not really that's not groundbreaking I mean Yahoo's aviate

25:55 launcher has been a lot more contextually aware than that for a long

25:59 time yes um but that's that's cool the

26:03 one thing they showed off that impressed me a little bit more was he's like oh

26:07 well I usually meditate in the morning so now there's a meditation app there

26:11 and obviously I don't give two craps about that but if it knows because the

26:15 first thing I do when I roll over in my bed in the morning is I check my email

26:18 like what do you do yep I check my email first thing so if I don't even have to

26:23 in my blur eyed State figure out like where my email app is which I'm not an

26:27 idiot I can find my email app I know if I can just do it with one touch hey

26:32 great little things like that make the device more natural to use yep um Apple

26:37 pay just got support from Square which is really cool that interesting

26:41 partnership yeah that should really Drive adoption for the the little guys

26:46 who can barely accept credit card at all and now can take Apple pay yep but the

26:51 bigger one for me actually is the Loyalty program integration so being

26:56 able to store all of your loyalty cards and Apple pay means I mean how many okay

26:59 here let's do it you got your wallet yep

27:04 okay and I'm going to straw pull you guys I want you guys to tell me tell me

27:08 tell me about this straw pole

27:12 okay how many loyalty SL rewards cards

27:17 are in your wallet or purse right now so

27:21 let's go with zero uh let's go with sort

27:24 of one to three I'd say as a light user uh four to eight would be actually no

27:30 let's go 1 to two is a light user and then let's say 3 to five is a medium

27:33 user and then 6 Plus is a heavy user and

27:38 I want I want to hear from you guys all right I'm going to post this in

27:42 the chat give me just a second here guys oh where's my chat link I don't have

27:47 Luke to help me you're not as good as Luke that's why I didn't hire you oh

27:51 well that's that's a cheap that's a cheap shot it's a cheap shot okay so I'm

27:56 going to throw the I'm sorry I really am a terrible person

28:01 um there's no excuse all right so hold on let me let me okay you you really no

28:07 way that's how many I've got so it's it's a stack what is all this crap do

28:11 you mind yeah here let me insult you and then dig through your some of them are

28:15 gift cards to be fa so Timmy H but still

28:18 yep Timmy H um the glow ball connection

28:22 gift card yep Home Depot okay Air Miles

28:26 and bigger smiles Scene Card these are

28:29 cool these are handy Scene Card so movie movie rewards Costco okay Great West

28:36 Life okay I don't think that counts okay that's fair uh BCAA okay you don't have

28:41 to pay for that but if you could I mean if Apple pay could be expanded to

28:45 include hey any card I can get out of my wallet really cabs yep huh and this is

28:52 like uh like it's a corporate like like

28:56 membership card and then uh Bubblicious Tea House VIP card yeah that counts you

29:02 know I actually have a membership card for like a party supplies store oh yeah

29:06 cuz we get props and crap there um I don't think I have that in my wallet I

29:10 think I have that one in my car but I'm going to count it if they can make it

29:13 easy enough for little guys to implement it I mean they don't have to print cards

29:16 they don't have to worry about all that stuff if they can just get apple that they this is still hypothetical but like

29:21 um Recreation Center membership cards I don't see any reason why you couldn't

29:26 use something like an apple e wallet type thing for that I also have a BCAA

29:30 membership but I'm a pretty light user most of mine are debit and credit cards

29:35 um so I want to but I want to I want to hear from the viewers like how many of

29:39 you guys would see a significant Improvement wow wow 35% of you have zero

29:44 loyalty or rewards cards mind you I guess I technically don't have any

29:48 either I don't have any loyalty or rewards cards in my wallet I do keep a

29:52 couple in my car though and another 29%

29:56 of you are one to two so that's 50

30:00 excuse me 65% of you have between zero

30:03 and two Loyalty Rewards cards you guys are really the wrong audience for this

30:08 particular Apple pay feature I mean 16% of you have a turnup in your wallet

30:12 apparently that's a thick wallet yeah that takes the George castanza wallet to

30:17 a whole new level yeah interesting well

30:21 I thought that was a big deal so apparently I was wrong maps maps now

30:24 supports Transit which is like Google

30:28 feature from a long time ago from like a bazillion years ago okay it is cool that

30:32 they've actually mapped out the subway stations and then accounted for not like

30:37 arriving there but also arriving there and like traversing through it to the

30:41 correct platform that's fair that's very cool um but I think they're only

30:47 supporting something like I think it was I want to say 12 or

30:52 16 like major Global around the so like

30:56 there's one city in Canada and we can all guess which one that is not here not

31:02 Vancouver so uh yeah and then there's like I think London New York there's

31:08 like there's a couple cities and then surprisingly a bunch of places in China

31:12 and they skip they went through that slide like really fast they were like

31:16 Global roll out it's like a handful of cities plus I think it was it was like

31:20 30 or 300 or something cities in China yeah I was a shocking amount really

31:26 aggressive aggressive L pushing this feature in China where I guess public

31:30 transit is maybe not more of a thing but maybe

31:35 more maybe more confusing or maybe less routine well I don't have any numbers

31:40 solid numbers but everyone I know that is a relative that lives in China has an

31:44 iPhone like everybody like I asked them

31:47 they you have Android they're just like what I

31:52 iPhone there you go e um the app okay

31:55 app switcher and multitasking finally coming and it's really funny because we

32:00 can look at something like okay Samsung has had like multi- window view stuff

32:06 for for a while two years now I mean it hasn't always been great but they've had

32:10 it no it's always sucked that's the problem so Samsung has had two years to

32:16 iterate on this stuff and

32:19 then we've apparently got line of tech tips viewers rolling by on their on

32:23 their bikes um so Samsung's had a couple years to iterate on this and comes out

32:28 the gate and has an implementation that just looks way better like just way

32:32 better have you seen the videos I have not yet okay bunch of functionality so

32:36 you swipe in from the side you can bring in a thing and then you do another thing

32:40 I think you click it or double click it or something can't remember um but it it

32:43 looked really intuitive to use and then that brings up a bunch of other compatible side view apps that you can

32:48 scroll through then all you do is you touch the divider and you can move it

32:51 over to make it not just like like Microsoft's done this Samsung's done

32:56 this this this is this stuff that's been done but it's done really well here

33:01 Microsoft's implementation on Windows RT when it first launched was not very good

33:06 on the surface um this looks really

33:10 really good and the apps can run side by side they're fully interactive they

33:13 showed off the demo where they're actually touching both apps at the same time not that I can think of too many

33:18 situations where that would come in handy uh much like the keyboard we

33:21 reviewed this week that supports 256 key

33:25 presses simultaneously all of them so

33:29 you could actually have like in an alternate universe another one of the

33:34 same keyboard and you could press all the buttons on that too and the

33:37 processor wouldn't B down okay steel series you did good um

33:44 they finally and this is more of a finally for Apple they finally

33:47 dramatically improved cursor and highlighting finally and copy paste

33:53 functionality is now built into the quick type keyboard and this is

33:56 something that I believe Sony and LG

34:00 have both done reasonably well in the past but picture and picture uh video

34:04 watching while you're doing other things oh I like that a lot freaking awesome

34:09 really glad to see it uh the integration looks really good so now with search you

34:14 can search it'll search for YouTube videos or even videos within your apps

34:18 once they uh once they use the search API to make themselves searchable you

34:22 can be like Play you can move it around this is a cool feature and this is

34:26 something that surprisingly uh surprisingly sort of out of the box

34:30 actually is you can drag the video so just a sliver of it is showing you

34:33 actually put most of it off screen and

34:36 like I'm like oh yeah that's a really good idea yep you would never want to do

34:41 that on a desktop because why you have so much screen real estate but on a

34:45 tablet I could actually see that being very useful if you just want to listen

34:49 for a bit very cool yep I want it on

34:53 Android like like just like that yeah

34:56 and the good news is it'll probably happen eventually yep let's talk os10 l

35:02 capy 10 uh this is cool new gestures uh

35:06 okay okay this is this is one of those ones where I'm kind of going you really

35:11 are catering to kind of a like I don't

35:15 want to say a a simpler audience but they've got a new gesture

35:21 where when you get to your computer you kind of move your mouse around to see where it is it gets huge for a second so

35:27 you can find it oh I suspect that that feature will

35:33 mostly only be useful to the people who need jumbo Mouse cursors in the first

35:37 place but well to be fair I run four

35:41 monitors and sometimes I'm like which

35:44 one is it on cuz I've got a 1440p and

35:47 then like three 1080s as an optional feature to enable all right all right

35:52 all right I'll I'll give you this apple some people will use it they've also got

35:55 touchpad gestures now for marking emails on red or deleting them something that

35:59 we've had on Android forever go go

36:02 figure way to go Samsung you were you were light years ahead of the game on

36:06 this particular one yep um Safari pinned

36:10 sights how is this a feature this is laughable the fact that you can have

36:14 pinned sites in Safari I mean like here

36:17 here's my Chrome they're like yeah so

36:20 like your PIN sites so the pin sites actually stack up next to your tabs in

36:25 Safari which I guess is efficient CU you don't actually have to use up two

36:29 separate rows for them so you just take them and you kind of go okay now it's a

36:34 now it's pinned and I'm kind of sitting here going okay but I could

36:38 just oh actually technically apparently I cannot do that okay well I thought you

36:42 could do whatever I don't have difficulty creating pinning things

36:45 anyway there pin right click pin this is why right click is good that's just as

36:49 fast um so

36:53 I yeah I I I really don't see how this is a feature they're like yeah

36:58 so you can like you can like open it check this out you can like open it

37:03 and then your like pin thing is still there and I'm like yeah Okay so we've

37:09 had that so again the the functionality that the many button Mouse affords us

37:15 middle click on a pinned bookmark open a

37:19 new tab wow so revolutionary very amazed

37:23 much wow um Spotlight can be re they

37:26 actually joked about this this cuz I I think a lot of these updates they know

37:30 that they're pretty trivial um Spotlight on OS 10 can now be resized and even

37:35 moved around but that's because it has a lot more functionality so you can um you

37:41 can search with natural terms you can be like documents I just worked on um

37:45 emails from this person that I haven't read yet I like that that's very cool um

37:50 and it can search for like more stuff now can't remember the details and I

37:54 didn't make very good notes Apple search has always been better here's another

37:57 catch up and overtake Microsoft thing and yes Apple search is way ahead of

38:02 Microsoft search um but Microsoft was

38:06 still ahead of the game for window management it blew me away when I did my

38:10 OS 10 I switched and I realized that

38:14 when you switch to a new a new active window it would just like go on your

38:20 screen like wherever the crap you left it and the only way to resize stuff

38:26 other than you know their horrible like theater mode full screen which is so

38:31 obnoxious I hate it it's it's awful it's

38:35 horrendous please don't take away all my buttons you got a 5k

38:41 display don't do that anyway um it blew

38:46 me away that there was no way to just you know snap stuff or throw it into

38:50 quadrants or I mean even even stupid stuff like oh I'm going to put it kind

38:54 of here and this is like the one Improvement that they've made to Aeros snap SN since they launched it now I can

38:58 make it full height well finally Apple

39:02 does AOS snap so you can go sides and

39:05 sides and they actually blew Microsoft

39:09 away on this one when you Aeros snap something to the left you get an expose

39:12 on the right and you can pick what you want your right side to be which makes a

39:16 ton of sense that is faster than snapping something going in hunting for

39:20 CU I don't snap something to one side unless I want something else on the

39:24 other side yep thinking outside the box I mean we got Arrow snap with

39:28 Vista yes how has it not I me and yes

39:32 they've added things I know they've added things not enough things at all

39:38 and you know what's really funny to me about Vista is remember the horrible

39:42 multitasking interface from Vista the Windows tab yeah that that horrendous

39:47 Windows tab like slideshow thing yes

39:50 that's apparently where we're going back to lollipop has it yeah iOS has it now

39:58 how did that come back into fashion it was horrible then it's horrible now like

40:03 anytime you have to animate when I'm multitasking you know multitasking is a

40:07 power user feature in in itself so what

40:10 power user wants to go Windows Tab and wait for the the Windows to shuffle in

40:15 and then animate to the front of your screen now in iOS's defense um the it

40:20 looked pretty smooth when they were doing it m but the stupid thing about it

40:25 and they pitch this as a feature is your multi M tasking things that you swipe

40:28 through are like full screen they're big so you can see them I don't need to read

40:34 it I just need to know what app it is

40:37 show me more stuff anyway that that that made me sad uh

40:43 let's see how hard twitch is hating on the fact that I'm talking about

40:47 WWDC um people are like Windows 10 did

40:50 they bring it back in Windows 10 because I don't I don't particularly like I

40:56 haven't actually play with Windows 10 I don't particularly like the Windows Tab and Windows 8 either um and this isn't

41:02 great either unless you have a touchcreen this is actually great with the touchcreen because bip Bop you can

41:07 be like yeah alt tab that thank you this

41:10 is fast but the whole like slid show

41:13 thing I think is horrendous um what I'd

41:16 like to see is the closest we can get to HTC's I'm not sure if they actually do

41:21 it anymore but the sense multitasking where it just is expose style yeah my M8

41:25 is oh I think people are telling me that Windows 10 does the expose style

41:29 thing really yeah hold on let me have a look let me

41:34 have a look let me have a look Windows yeah I have my a lot of people have

41:38 asked me um if I'm covering Windows 10 and I generally don't even touch a

41:44 Windows OS until it's released because I'm going to go and I'm going to the

41:47 first thing I'm going to do in order to actually use it is I'm going to put it on a production machine

41:53 so there you go uh so I generally don't

41:56 really feel feel like I don't really feel like

41:59 using pre-release software so okay so

42:03 snap Assist 2 by2 snapping and vertical snap features da da da okay snap assist

42:11 yeah there you go okay thank you you guys totally wrecked me on that one I

42:16 appreciate that because at least we managed to not get through the entire

42:19 show without it being corrected this is why I love you guys twitch chat like you

42:25 know what that's where the twitch chat is best used when it takes 4,000 people

42:31 saying the same thing to get something done that is Twitch chat 4,000 people

42:36 saying the same thing over and over again I love you

42:39 guys um automatic straw hole did someone

42:43 reupload the 390x unboxing I see someone posting something a bunch of them yeah

42:47 so that's that's interesting it's really terrible so we really don't need to watch it but there's really not much

42:52 it's got the double de cooler with the

42:56 fast assets on it just and he flips it

43:00 over it's like back blate uh that's it

43:03 all right so more Apple crap and this is really important not because it's Apple

43:06 but because it's uh a huge industry shift so they've done some performance

43:12 optimization in L capan uh they're quoting things like 4X PDF opening

43:17 performance uh 2x app switching performance um 1.4x app launch

43:22 performance something along those lines don't quote me on those numbers they're not they're not the important part

43:26 necessarily what's important is that

43:30 these performance optimizations look like a big part of

43:34 what they're spending time on and why would they be doing that well corm not

43:40 corm I think they're going to do their own CPU probably in the next two years

43:45 so I think I think because the thing about it and and I've had people go oh

43:49 lonus you're an idiot because you know it would break x86 application

43:53 compatibility it would do this do that it's not like Apple's never done that before

43:57 yep in fact they don't care yeah they don't they don't give a crap they're

44:02 going to go with whatever they think is the best long-term user experience and

44:07 they're going to they're going to rock that out and they're going to get

44:10 developer support in a way that no one else really seems to um because they

44:18 make it so profitable for developers that's why developers are so excited

44:21 about WWDC uh I've got a bunch of messages

44:25 from uh from people oh yeah okay oh okay

44:30 both Ed and uh and Nick are messaging me

44:34 with uh with crap about the um the the

44:38 390x unboxing that is that is back apparently and for some reason they also

44:44 want to know what your favorite band is what are you guys doing

45:04 all right so that was the that coming that was that was the fully that was the

45:08 fully auto um rubber band well one of

45:11 the fully automatic rubber band guns that's going to be on an upcoming

45:14 Channel Super Fun um right okay so where are we going with this okay so there's

45:18 all those optimizations and then the Metal Graphics API which is pretty much

45:23 the Apple answer to a mantle or a dx12

45:27 in terms of the what we're trying to achieve here so better performance out

45:31 of the same Graphics hardware and then

45:35 um actually this is really cool so they're claiming up to eight times

45:39 better after effects performance better than opencl and openg uh with their

45:44 partner Adobe using the metal API so

45:48 that would be very impressive better power consumption better

45:51 performance um wow looking very looking

45:55 very very cool so

45:58 yeah I will be I will be surprised if they don't do if they don't have like I

46:03 don't think it necessarily has to be a desktop you know running Apple's own CPU

46:08 I don't think that's the point I think it would be more like a Macbook 3 like a

46:12 Macbook 2015 gen 3 or something like that like a hyper mobile device running

46:17 you know OS 10 some Mount St Helens or

46:20 whatever stupid completely tasteless Mountain they decide to use Crater Lake

46:26 um I'll skim to through the rest of it pretty quickly cuz that was the stuff that I thought was interesting uh watch

46:30 OS 2 is coming it allows native apps now that was fast um it allows uh new more

46:36 informative watch faces with like Dynamic backgrounds that you can have be

46:41 time lapse video that they took of something or something and um it has

46:46 this is cool so you can have information displayed dynamically so like your next

46:50 appointment and weather and then you can kind of use the crown and be like oh well what about my appointment after

46:54 that and the weather later and like what about even ler than that so they're

46:57 calling that Time time travel or something time travel feature yeah yeah

47:03 apple man they just all they have to do is use the word magic and and then it's

47:09 and other Associated things it's like yeah it's time travel like now I feel

47:13 really cool while I do this yeah I'm time traveling into the future I've got

47:17 a dentist appointment it's

47:21 exciting um they've improved contact sorting on the watch they've added email

47:25 replies basically it's just feature

47:28 creep so they're they're adding more features to get it up closer to feature

47:32 parody with um with uh uh Android Wear

47:37 thank you why couldn't I remember what it was called I where the hell is my

47:42 charger for the gatch R I ordered it like two weeks ago I haven't used the

47:45 gatr since the latest wear update

47:49 well going to like attack something I'm

47:52 just excited for the native apps so that they don't have to stream everything

47:55 also the Apple music announcement was the biggest load of fluff nonsense that

48:00 I think that I've ever seen it was basically just a bunch of touchy F BS

48:06 it's coming in at a similar price to other streaming services you're going to

48:09 be able to listen to music just like other streaming services they're adding

48:13 a 247 radio station that's broadcasting

48:16 from La New York and London because those are like trendy cities so I should

48:21 care where a radio station I'm listening to is broadcasting from why do I care I

48:27 I have no idea it's the radio it could be broadcasting from the Moon well that

48:31 would be cool that' be pretty cool yeah or Mars station yeah starring Elon Musk

48:36 yeah okay that would be cool if it's a city on earth I don't give a

48:40 crap broadcast from underground okay that would be cool it just seemed like

48:43 it was a me too feature I can't even come up with something stupid enough to

48:47 be as stupid as caring anyway so 24/7

48:51 radio which I guess there's a lot of radio stations so whatever and this is

48:57 this is sort of cool but I also kind of look at it as potentially just tedious

49:02 um so they have their connect feature where artists and their fans can

49:06 interact so an artist could like upload

49:09 exclusive content or they could just put that on Twitter or something it seems

49:13 like an odd thing that they wouldn't that they would do yeah you can upload

49:17 music videos and photos to fans so I guess Apple wants to be a social network

49:21 now I guess which I I don't really understand I guess I don't really

49:25 understand the benefit because Apple has made it very clear that they are not in

49:29 the business of farming your social network data so what's in it for them I

49:34 don't know maybe they're just artsy fartsy and they want you know more ways

49:38 for it almost seems like a reaction to tidle they're like oh title's got all

49:42 these artist and they're signed up and they're going to be like that's their hub for their music and they're like

49:47 Apple's like yeah we can do that too you can you can post stuff to your

49:51 fans with apple music yeah I I I don't

49:55 really I don't really care I mean they're going to convert a ton of people

49:58 regardless just because it's apple and

50:01 it's going to be like gee what music subscription service should I get for my

50:06 iPhone I guess I'll get apple music um

50:09 but I just I'll need to see them do something a little bit more interesting with it before I can get super excited

50:14 tighter integration is always always nice especially when we're talking about

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55:59 was going to grow up and go to university and just be a

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56:38 uh can you imagine a world where to start up a business you had to have an

56:43 accountant yep or learn how to do bookkeeping straight up or you had to

56:48 you had to pay someone and remember in the early days of website creation how

56:53 expensive it was to get you someone to make something anything more complicated

56:56 than a geoc city site would cost a fortune because it was really

57:00 complicated there was no there was no interface it was a guy coding it line by

57:05 line to have the proper alignment to have tables and everything it's

57:09 complicated to make a website from scratch like from scratch coming from

57:13 someone that has a development background it's not easy and nowadays

57:17 it's just like yep here's my website I'm going to like drag and drop I mean it's

57:21 not quite that easy but I'm going to like drag and drop some nice pictures it's pretty close to a Squarespace like

57:26 you click on something it's like hey I'd like an image here with a caption and a

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57:39 that's probably pretty important given that you know uh you you've heard about

57:43 the McDonald's fully automated restaurant I love bringing it up because

57:46 it's the scariest thing ever because that is

57:51 going to kill so many entrylevel jobs

57:55 you're to be a kid in high school with no way to put gas in your car because

58:00 there is nothing to do for like a summer

58:03 or weekend job seriously automation is

58:06 going to kill a lot of low paying jobs so kids are going to have to get off

58:10 their butts make a website come up with

58:13 like something cool to sell on the Internet or or or whatever or whatever

58:18 it is they're going to have to be entrepreneurial that's going to be a big

58:23 change I mean it's no secret that the corporation ations man have been trying

58:27 to cut back the amount they pay and the

58:31 numbers that they need of the little

58:34 workers going to have to find something else to do yeah this video is the one I

58:39 always refer appeal to the humans need not apply it's really good video it's

58:43 really well done but it's just like there are a lot of jobs that machines

58:47 can do more consistently they can work without sleep and all you need is a

58:51 mechanic just to make sure you know when things break down they're like oh here

58:54 let me swap it apart and then the whole machine keeps running yep and

58:59 you know what it's funny I uh I had a I had a conversation with um with my

59:04 sister's boyfriend yesterday um he's going into helicopter pilot training

59:09 which it turns out is a $60,000 4month program holy SM yeah and

59:16 you're like not going to get a job at that point you have to do like

59:19 apprenticeship stuff like you're paid but like you're not paid paid like a

59:23 like a pilot paid yet um and I was like not to men paying off the school that

59:28 you just spent money on exactly so I was

59:31 like okay so hey like what's the plan he's like well you know it pays really

59:36 well it's always been a dream of mine I kind of go yeah yeah yeah that's cool

59:39 I'm with you so far and I kind of went well what about what about automation of

59:43 jobs and I I brought up the McDonald's because I love talking about it I think it's fascinating and he kind of goes

59:47 well you know in Flight a lot of unpredictable things are going to happen

59:52 and humans are way better at that than machines and that's

59:57 true but I kind of went well you know 10

60:00 years ago uh how smart was a machine now

60:05 we have consumer grade drones that you can literally draw on your tablet here's

60:10 some way points yes and come back when you're done that's 10 years think about

60:16 what another 10 years is going to do to automation not to mention that I think

60:21 within 10 years maybe 20 uh even if we

60:24 need a real live pod they're going to be flying remotely there's no way you're

60:29 going to put a pilot in that you know uh firefighting helicopter if you don't

60:34 have to nope you could just carry uh more firefighting material instead of a

60:39 chair and a person you get a VR headset

60:42 you get a cockpit and it's like and you have a 360 camera it's like you're

60:47 you're sitting there cuz you can look around to see you know your pereral because that's one of the main things

60:51 that's hard about driving remotely is that you've got like this one fixed

60:55 camera you've got your screen it's like you've got no peripheral or anything

60:59 else but if you can get like a a rig where you can basically pilot a drone

61:04 remotely that's that's the dream that's

61:07 freaking freaking incredible speaking of drones I got I I tell you I got one of

61:11 the uh the Phantom 3s no but I saw your post on uh on Twitter or Instagram or

61:16 something it's super fun yeah cuz it's

61:19 they Incorporated the light Bridge technology so you get a full 720p view

61:25 as you're flying in which is like light years ahead of the Phantom 2 which is

61:30 where you get like this 480p 15 frames per second and it was like really really

61:35 bad resolution it's

61:39 fun yeah very cool stuff um the the Bop

61:43 is not that sophisticated it's still using Wi-Fi but um that's the closest

61:48 thing I have the good thing about the Bop is it's got that redonkulous antenna

61:52 module that you can attach to it yes with that you've got got a pretty good

61:56 live view still very grainy mhm it's not going to be like full quality 720p right

62:01 but a lot better and you know what actually drones tie really well into

62:05 this next topic uh Oculus finally sort

62:08 of has a launch date this was posted on the Forum by Lord Sparkle bottom and uh

62:14 is some pretty uh pretty vague stuff

62:17 actually okay they didn't they didn't give us like a whole ton of detail um

62:22 the design the design looks much more uh

62:26 consumer friendly than some of the earlier designs that really were kind of

62:31 square and looked very developer Kitty uh let me see if I can uh I almost

62:35 thought that was a disadvantage cuz I was like it just looks so like it just

62:40 looks so smooth now really cuz I was

62:43 like well it doesn't look it doesn't have that like oh you're clearly wearing something that's different now it just

62:48 seems something that's just kind of like it's very smooth cuz it's got that

62:52 fabric on the outside on the outside that's really

62:55 unexpected I mean I'm going to get so much Dorito cheese stained into that

63:00 cloth I think that might have M to obstruct the the LEDs right cuz the LEDs

63:06 are sitting right below that mhm and so now you don't have exposed LEDs on the

63:10 other side like Crystal Cove you've just got this single black meshed covering

63:16 yeah I uh I really I really like the look of it and I'm trying to find a good

63:20 picture right now well here's a here's a render so this might be this might be

63:24 the best we can do for the moment uh but you can see you can see a couple of

63:27 things here so we've got what they're calling what is it VR sound or something

63:32 like that yeah so the head the the headband comes straight around and then

63:35 they've got these two kind of things that just sit on the headband looks kind

63:38 of like upside down like bug antenna yeah yeah um fortunately thank goodness

63:44 for this you can remove the crap out of those and put your own headphones on so

63:49 that's like super nice uh there we go there's a there's a better look at um

63:54 how incredibly uncom those are going to be I mean if you're the kind of person

63:58 where superal headphones work for you

64:01 then great they do not work for me I don't think they mentioned if there's a

64:05 headphone jack on Oculus is there I

64:08 don't think we don't have much in terms of specs y all they're saying is custom

64:12 low persistence display they give they gave a resolution did they yes I saw a

64:18 resolution here somewhere I missed higher than 1080p okay but I mean we

64:22 already had 1440p so I mean for for them to reduce

64:26 it would be would be pretty pretty stupid

64:35 uh yeah I oh oh 2160 by 1200 at 90 Herz

64:41 split over the Dual displays yeah okay

64:45 was this you get 1080 by 1200 per eye

64:49 okay okay and then um oh that yeah okay that should be okay

64:56 I mean it's not 4K and hopefully that's coming soon the other big deal is uh

65:00 what are they calling this uh Oculus touch or something like that yes can you

65:06 double check I have I have it in there Oculus touch so this was the other big

65:09 one so the the rift consumer version will ship sometime in q1 2016 so we have

65:14 some idea when it's coming now at least and it will come with an Xbox One

65:18 controller so that's a partnership that they've entered with Microsoft however

65:22 sometime in the first half of 2016 the Oculus touch is going to become

65:27 available this is a wireless although we've got uh weote flinging prevention

65:32 wrist straps on it thank goodness cuz that that gripping that thing is going

65:36 to be yeah you know dangerous this is going to be so it's a wireless

65:41 lightweight and both hand tracking and

65:46 gesture capable controller so you've actually got some traditional controls

65:50 on here you've got buttons and joysticks but you'll also be able to do things

65:54 like give a thumbs up up or or point at

65:58 something yeah there's there's grip handles underneath that have a button so

66:03 that you can like make gestures with it and there's sensors on the inside of

66:06 that ring the the ring on the inside has sensors so you can detect your fingers

66:11 so presumably you could flip someone off if you really wanted to if you were into

66:15 that sort of thing I can think of a lot of reasons in game I might want to flip someone off I can see that a lot of

66:19 people are probably going to do that yep very very cool obviously is going to

66:24 rely on developer support and terms of amazing games for the

66:29 Oculus EV Valkyrie is kind of looking like the one right now I honestly think

66:34 that VR games the one where it excels is anything that has a cockpit you got a

66:39 car you got a ship you got a I guess boat anything that has like a vehicle

66:43 because that's going to be your natural experience cuz you're sitting in a seat

66:47 yeah and you're going to be looking around so that basically the Pilot's view is going to be here because if

66:52 you're if you're trying to do an FPS like how you turn 180 the rail shooter

66:58 yes right the not rail shooter oo and

67:02 the and the thing about a rail shooter is that they're going to have to figure out like my actually actually my first

67:07 VR experience was at plaum remember plaum yes okay so town so so plaum was a

67:15 big arcade at a mall uh near here and I was playing a VR game and I was holding

67:19 the gun and I was like looking around I was like wow this is the shiz this is so

67:24 cool and I was like like shooting at stuff and then I wanted to look over

67:28 there and like and I realized oh cuz I I

67:31 naturally was going like this at first but the Crosshair was just tied to the

67:35 VR headset right so motion control on

67:39 things like our our weapons on things like our peripherals is going to have to

67:43 be light years ahead of of where we're

67:48 at now um then again you know these

67:51 controllers could help with that but I would prefer a peripheral

67:56 no matter how accurate it's going to be if you're talking about Competitive

67:59 Gaming I don't think these are ever going to be VR is never going to be the

68:03 solution ever is a strong word I don't think so oh well okay competitive no no

68:06 no Competitive Gaming yeah a mouse and keyboard is going to be faster yes

68:10 straight up faster but you could easily have peripherals that are accurate

68:15 enough for competitive VR Gaming yes but

68:18 they have to be tied just to VR Gaming

68:21 yes yeah it would and you know what's really funny is uh like PC gamers are so

68:27 fond of talking about the superiority of the mouse and keyboard compared to a

68:31 controller and yet PC gamers are going to be the ones glomming on to VR and the

68:36 props that go with them in spite of their inferiority sometimes it is about

68:40 the experience which isn't to say that I personally have a better experience with a controller in most games I'm just

68:44 saying that just because you can frag someone a little faster with a keyboard

68:48 and mouse doesn't necessarily mean that's the be all and end all well going back to the Xbox One the reason why they

68:53 wanted it bundled was that they have a a base control mechanism so that basically

68:59 everyone that's going to get an Oculus is all going to get the Xbox One controller and little sneaky anouncement

69:03 that they announced was oh it's comes with an adapter which also was like oh

69:08 the XBox has an adapter now y finally so

69:11 that's finally coming which was like why did it take this long why did it why was

69:15 it not available at launch Microsoft keeps doing this they did it again

69:18 recently and I I missed talking about it on wow that week but they were like yeah

69:22 we haven't done a good enough job we're recommitting to PC gamers no again I'll

69:26 see if I can find it um Microsoft

69:30 recommits to PC Gamers this was like

69:34 fairly recent yeah J June the 4th oh wow

69:38 uh here we go uh oh no no okay see the second this is so funny this is so funny

69:42 check this out you guys so the first link is from June the 4th and the second

69:48 hit is from October 9th because oh and

69:51 the third one is February 11th 2014

69:56 so the first three hits are like three different times they've done this so uh

70:01 recommitting blah blah blah blah something something also be shifting its

70:06 focus back upon PC Gamers we weren't fully committed as a company and I've

70:10 said that before we made commitments blah blah blah Etc one thing that's cool

70:15 this is really cool Oculus is getting native support in Windows 10 so that was

70:19 another part of the announcement yes which is certainly a better experience than the DK2 that we

70:24 have downstairs collecting cuz it's a pain in the butt to use it takes a long

70:27 time to get those things set up and working um they also had the the little

70:33 control mechanism little camera sensor oh yeah yeah so the the the head

70:37 tracking um and I guess presumably hand tracking sensor it looks like one of

70:42 those um one of those little film canister style webcams yeah the odd

70:46 thing though it seems like it's it almost seemed like still a prototype

70:50 because they've got like the camera and then it's got the cable running down the

70:53 stem and then in like with like a zap

70:57 strap on it you know what's really funny I actually have a comment about this um

71:03 let me just see if I can find ah let me see if I can find a

71:07 picture of the of the new Oculus

71:10 camera be calling it the sensor sensor

71:13 sure whatever whatever they're whatever they're calling it it's a camera cameras

71:17 have sensors in them Bam um wow

71:22 Oculus E3 because it just seems like it it like cuz if it was an actual final

71:27 product I would expect you know the cable to come out the base and it you

71:31 know to look more final but it just looks oddly like they just had the

71:35 camera and they're like oh no the cable all right let's just round it down the

71:38 stem and just yeah whatever they had a great render of it in their in their

71:43 presentation that made it look like really elegant and it's like yeah that's

71:48 the only thing on my desk and if it's like the world's most amazing cable that

71:53 like comes out smoothly and that's it's that no you guys it's going to be like

71:57 another like stupid thing on my desk and it's going to look really stupid I

72:01 actually really like the valve HTC implementation where you where you put

72:05 the lighthouse in the corner of the room yep and that'll work better for a lot of

72:10 stuff I'm I'm really interested to see the VR Wars over the next little bit um

72:15 this is huge posted by booo on the Forum original article here is from polygon

72:20 I've been doing a terrible job of linking original articles today just

72:23 been a little bit uh all over the

72:26 place there we go um YouTube is gonna

72:31 have a new gaming site going straight

72:35 for twitch Yep this is um original article here is from polygon an obvious

72:40 response to Twitch TV

72:45 um you know what okay why don't we go through the features first okay and then

72:49 and then we'll talk about sort of what this what this all means so number one

72:56 is YouTube is real good at archiving

72:59 video twitch used to let you archive

73:02 pretty much whatever you wanted for as long as you wanted and they backpedal on

73:06 that twitch wasn't interested in becoming like the world's largest

73:10 repository of stupidly High bit rate

73:13 videos that are super intensive to store

73:17 and to stream to everyone to be fair I feel like twitch users don't go into the

73:21 archives as much as a YouTube user would

73:24 so okay so YouTube comes at this with

73:27 very different traditional strengths and they were very complimentary to each

73:31 other in that way but the funny thing is

73:34 and this was always kind of unintuitive to me until I um well until it clicked

73:40 like at the beginning I I didn't really understand I was like well anyone who

73:43 live streams on Twitch they should have a pretty big YouTube following all they

73:46 would have to do is just upload their streams to YouTube and then they should be like pretty big some people are huge

73:52 on Twitch and actually have very little YouTube presence because it's a very

73:55 different format I mean twitch is more like radio and YouTube is more like a

73:59 show yeah and that's how it is um so so

74:03 they seemed very complimentary for a long time but YouTube wants a piece of

74:07 that pie because twitch has gotten very big and very fat on the enormous amounts

74:12 of money that advertisers are willing to spend on live broadcast and that's

74:16 that's something we've discovered I didn't understand why Wow with its I

74:21 mean thank you very much for watching you guys are awesome mere 5,000 viewers

74:26 compared to a YouTube video we could do that would have 200,000 people watch it

74:30 live is apparently worth way more to advertised and I was like um okay sure I

74:37 I guess we'll make it live yeah well no it was live already y I mean w show

74:42 wasn't monetized for a long time actually really yeah the original live

74:45 stream didn't have any like it had YouTube monetization and I uploaded it

74:49 to YouTube right I wasn't making any money um but I like I discovered this I

74:54 was like why does it matter apparently it does um so it'll have dedic so

74:59 they're going to have a dedicated they're going to have dedicated pages per game to see live and archived

75:04 content and the commitment from YouTube is that gaming will no longer be lost in

75:09 the sea of other content so an example

75:12 they gave is if you enter call it's not going to pre-populate call me maybe

75:17 it'll pre-populate Call of Duty like it'll be smarter about bringing you

75:21 gaming content if that's what you're looking for yeah it's not clear exactly

75:27 how live interaction will be tweaked um Hangouts broadcasts already have

75:31 something that's about as feature Rich As twitch chat at least they have said

75:35 that moderation tools will be better um

75:39 and this is cool they are promising very

75:43 little latency between a stream going

75:46 live and you guys getting a notification as well as very little latency between

75:50 the stream and the chat which is something that

75:55 uh H well twitch tried they they had

76:00 that check box yeah they made it better and so they made it better but even

76:04 right now when we when I've done Hangouts Live on YouTube it it's much

76:09 much faster yep so uh yeah those are

76:13 some those are some pretty big advantages right there but okay you know

76:18 what okay so here can can YouTube take

76:21 it back from twitch and Amazon nope wow wow that was decisive okay why

76:26 I think Google does a really good job of making things that are really featur

76:30 rich and very good for power users but what they lack is the ability to build

76:34 communities like their Community Building skills if Google+ has shown us

76:39 anything I just faure I just don't

76:42 see YouTube taking it but I mean at the

76:46 same time I really like watching live streams on YouTube because I get to

76:51 pause it yeah that's another one DVR functionality will be present I love

76:56 that feature because if I can like if I'm watching a live stream and I got to do something I got to take a call I want

77:00 to pause it thought you were going to say take a crap well I mean or that too

77:04 that too you can just take your phone with you but then it gets all like poo

77:07 particles all over it when you flush and stuff any we carry on but I just don't

77:11 see that I I don't want I want that

77:14 functionality and twitch so far has seemed like they have the player and

77:17 they're just like that's our player it

77:21 works and I mean YouTube also has down L

77:25 for everybody so you don't have to watch it at source mhm so cuz that's what Josh

77:31 grapples with when he does his live streams he's like yeah I'm going to stream at like half 720p so that

77:36 everyone can see it yep and that's that's incredibly frustrating so but

77:41 with that said it's not like twitch doesn't have Amazon money behind it at

77:45 this point it's not like if Amazon decides to go toe-to-toe with Google on

77:48 something they can't at least put up a pretty good fight so technology wise if

77:53 Amazon throws you know their Cloud servers at the at the problem and kind

77:57 of go okay yeah we'll just store everything then and we'll allow dving

78:01 and we'll do this and we'll do that and we'll we'll scale the video in real time

78:04 for everyone the big problem that I foresee for YouTube because

78:08 technologically it's going to make a lot of sense the big problem is relationship

78:12 management and this is on two fronts number one is with the pro gaming

78:18 leagues and the pro Gamers because that

78:21 is what twitch has done a great job of they've made them eles the orts network

78:27 and naturally the orts network becomes

78:30 the hangout for people who are into watching Competitive Gaming and when

78:35 you've got that Competitive Gaming audience you've got the hardc and if

78:39 you've got the hardc the streamers are going to want to be on that platform

78:43 streaming for the hardcore viewers huge

78:46 advantage and number two again where YouTube hasn't been great at

78:50 relationships in the past is with the content makers I've only recently really

78:56 gotten engaged with YouTube and started having conversations with them where

79:00 they like want to talk to me about the things that I that I need for the

79:03 platform and stuff like that um for

79:07 years I hadn't heard anything from anyone and YouTube is going to have to

79:11 figure that out if they want to entice the live streaming Gamers versus the

79:15 YouTuber Gamers they're going to have to do a good job of that and it's it's hard

79:21 bringing someone over from another platform now I will say this from

79:26 personal experience is extremely

79:30 expensive because what that person has

79:33 invested in terms of time and money into

79:37 building an audience on the platform that they're on has a huge value like

79:41 it's not easy to get everyone to follow you you're saying hey y' I'm going to

79:45 switch over to YouTube live now I'm going to you know deprecate my Twitch

79:49 account it's as if life was that easy

79:52 that doesn't happen and so I mean I mean okay okay look at the um look at when we

79:57 moved our videos to vessel we didn't we didn't even switch we just said okay

80:02 we're going to upload to both and vessel's getting them a week early now

80:05 MH and I can tell you guys the conversion rate even though it was free

80:09 and that's what this will be it'll be free streaming on YouTube versus free

80:13 streaming on Twitch even though it was

80:17 free it was really hard to get people to move over and then and now that it's

80:20 paid it's obviously much harder I don't really talk about it that much because I

80:24 understand you know people can just wait and they'll just watch the content for

80:27 free and that's fine and people have a a tendency to stick where it's we've seen

80:32 this from the music streaming services as well they'll put all their eggs in

80:35 one basket where their friends are at where the rest of the community are at

80:39 that's going to have a lot of value as a viewer as well not just as a content

80:42 creator so you're going to want to make sure that wherever you're moving to you

80:47 know you don't want to like move to YouTube and there's like two of your favorite streamers there yep cuz you

80:51 want to go to one website you want to see what's live at right now people want

80:55 a One-Stop shop absolutely and you know what is really funny is I hadn't thought

81:00 about this until we'd already started the show but I realized

81:06 that I stream on Twitch but my main

81:10 audience is actually on YouTube and I'm not really sure what to do because even

81:15 something as simple as if we miss a w

81:19 show or have a a a w show not at the

81:22 correctly scheduled time or if like uh

81:25 Luke or I miss a w show viewership falls

81:29 into the toilet MH the the following week people are just like H what the get

81:34 out of the Habit people are all about habit why do you guys tune in to W show

81:39 I I would Twitter Blitz the crap out of this one at linch on Twitter why do you

81:44 tune into W show is it just a habit is

81:48 it um for entertainment is it background

81:51 noise do you genuinely enjoy it do you not even really care but you just kind

81:55 of do it anyway do you watch with friends I would love to know because

82:00 like I said I didn't really understand the value of wow to advertisers in the

82:05 same way that I'm not much of a long format video Watcher so I just kind of

82:10 stumbled into this I was like yeah live seems to be taking off I should probably

82:14 do a live stream no really that was the entire thought process so that was why I

82:19 called it the live stream at the beginning and I was like oh this is kind

82:22 of like molded into something that people like let's brand it and then we

82:26 called it the land show which everyone hated and then now I'm sure if we tried to change it they'd hate that too they

82:30 would be up in arms I'm not changing it it's called The L show Forever Until I

82:34 change it I know the reason why I watch it is I like to have long form content

82:38 playing as background stuff while I'm doing other stuff so I have a bunch of

82:43 podcasts that I'll listen to and W show I necessarily don't watch the video I'll

82:47 just put it on audio and then I'll just have it while I'm doing stuff in the

82:50 house or whatever so oh wrong one

82:55 Twitter Twitter uh luren says my phone

82:58 reminds me so I just tune in um just do

83:01 it actually love the show I watch when show to tell your servers down okay

83:06 background noise of Friday evening and sometimes listening sometimes background

83:10 noise sometimes entertainment mostly just nothing to do oh

83:15 Jacob oh that's sad um I tune in because

83:20 you guys are enjoyable we know thank you Gorski it's

83:25 a regular Tech show that has entertainment value

83:28 simple yep for the background noise and it's a habit I'm actually seeing a fair

83:32 bit of background noise and fair bit of well it's my Friday night routine so

83:37 that's what I do watch it when I code

83:40 huge nerd good to get the news look at that because we're all drunk sorry are

83:45 you leaving see you tomorrow

83:50 morning RP headphone users I'm very sorry about that got a good send off I

83:55 just got bombarded again um background

83:58 noise to be honest which is really funny because there's a whole lot of people so

84:02 newest information background noise became a habit because I get a

84:07 notification telling me you're live L love it um so and none of this kind of

84:13 adds up to me in some ways because it's like okay so live is somehow worth more

84:17 to advertise there's lots of you are just using it as background noise anyway

84:20 I I I don't get it but there you there you go so so I'm kind of looking at it

84:25 going well if I change up my routine am I am I hurting myself and my viewers I

84:32 don't know I don't anyway thanks for the thanks for the Twitter comments guys I'm

84:36 almost done the stream today actually yeah um it's not much left the do

84:41 Microsoft oh just a couple rapid fire topics um this was posted by Mr M heads

84:45 on the Forum and uh the original article here is from slash dot I don't remember

84:50 the last time I was linked to slash dot

84:53 wow they exist

84:57 um let's here we go I'll go ahead and post this so they updated their their

85:02 their like malware definition to include

85:05 programs that hijack your search uh

85:09 functionality in your browser Without You explicitly telling them to so this

85:13 would actually classify the ask toolbar as malware in most

85:18 cases that is hilarious and should have happened 10 years ago yep thank you

85:23 Microsoft for treating that stuff like the garbage that it is appreciate that

85:28 also this is cool so original article here is from hexus these are pretty cool

85:33 these are freaking Smurf so uh yeah stay tuned for that

85:40 everyone's like rip headphones I'm sorry I'm sorry BL ber why did I wait what oh

85:47 sorry sorry sorry here it is all right so Samsung unveils it's

85:54 first mirror and transparent OLED

85:58 displays so I can't wait transparent is

86:01 is a pretty strong word they've achieved 40% light

86:05 transmission that's enough though that's translucent oh well they yes well well

86:12 okay you can clearly see the image on the other side pixels are off yeah it's

86:16 not scattering anything so yeah anyway

86:20 so they're saying that this is I think they're saying uh four times what anyone

86:24 else has done but I LG showed off 30%

86:27 transparency like earlier this year or something like that but with a much

86:32 smaller low res panel and LG was projecting 40% in

86:37 2017 so looks like Samsung's doing okay

86:41 so can I have these in my car uh okay so

86:44 that's one proposed sort of use for them another one is things like virtual

86:48 fitting rooms for the mirrors so the mirror I think is 75% reflectance not

86:55 too shabby I mean just to be just so you guys know 75% doesn't actually sound

87:00 that reflective but a mirror that you go

87:03 buy at like the store is not going to be

87:07 actually as reflective as you might think you have to get like pretty super special mirrors for things like um if

87:13 you don't have enough this was more of a concern in the old days before short

87:16 short throw projectors but uh people with home theater systems would have to

87:19 rear fire their projector have like a super expensive amazing balls mirror and

87:25 then have it reflect back forward in order to get the the picture big enough

87:29 um a standard commodity mirror is not

87:32 that reflective and if you mount it inside a wall or right up against the

87:37 wall you're not going to need it super duper crazy reflective yeah let me just

87:41 see if I can uh let me just see if I can find wire mirrors made of glass

87:45 something something something yeah I can't find it but I remember being

87:49 floored that this that this mirror was like hundreds and hundreds of dollars

87:53 that one of my co-workers bought at the time uh for his

87:58 projector early adopter taxs yeah all right well I don't know I

88:03 guess I guess that's about it um thanks to you guys for participating thanks to

88:07 Chris for joining us in Luke dead today thanks guys for having me and I guess

88:13 that's it that's all we'll see you guys again next week same bat Time same bat

88:18 channel for now bye guys

88:24 oh right I can roll the outro oh