I think we're live welcome to the W show I um have my guest co-host here telling
me that he thinks this is probably the least prepared that the WAN Show has
ever been to which I replied um that was
like 40 seconds ago I actually don't remember what I said but the point is
he's wrong there have probably been less prepared ones uh LC is going to be back
next week he is on vacation in Taiwan
which must be super duper nice for him I wish I was on vacation not in Taiwan in
particular it's very hot there but uh
actually you know Vancouver is a good place to be this time of year okay I don't I wish I was on vacation at my
house that would be perfect it's good weather these days yeah I wish I didn't
have to be at work today but I do have to be at work today just for you guys so
we've got a bunch of great topics today the first unboxing of the R9 390x leaked
uh Sony announced their A7 R2 I'm going
to refrain from calling it The Mark 2 like all the people in our office here
son doesn't call it Mark 2 that's Canon they're the only ones that do that also
anyone else who calls something the whatever Mark I it's fairly common so
don't worry too much about that WWDC happened this week and apple
announced actually not a not a lot
compared to you know last year when they
actually had like Hardware to show off uh no this time it is all about software
changes but some of them are pretty important so we'll talk about that and
OCC did a keynote as well the launch time
frame is now confirmed hopefully it's kind of
confirmed it was very vague still yeah okay so the launch time frame is
confirmed and they showed off a new controller so uh uh you know I'll
introduce our special guest after the intro
uh no us they can hear
us like who is that
guy oh sorry I forgot Squarespace today
also linda.com and
freshbooks fresh you know what I'm going to do I am going to proactively move the
right part of the scene to why have I never done that before I don't know so
when I roll it again for the outro it'll play it might I forgot to do my hair
today also this color doesn't translate to the camera very well it's just like
straight up either the monitor can't display it or the camera cannot capture
it it's very it's much brighter in person much much brighter it's an
eyesore in person that's what I'm going for all right so I've got people asking
who is that in Luke's Place don't worry he has not taken Luke's Place although
there is a funny story about this guy and Luke's Place this is is the the
artist formerly known as wheels from NC
Tech tips is no longer with them and you know how he came to be involved in the
NC Tech tips team was actually he was
the okay I'm trying to think of a way to say this without it being rude uh he was
my second choice back when I hired Luke uh they
were the two that I actually had it narrowed down to and it ended up being
Luke who got the job and because I only had room for one benchmarking monkey at
the time and it wasn't until years later when he got far too expensive that I
actually had a place for another one that Chris became available so um what
do you do now exactly I do uh chemical marketing I basically it's a lot of
paper pushing right now it sounds like the most boring thing ever well
eventually it's going to be digital paper pushing and then wow I know you're
like bringing it into the 21st century I know we're just going to get 365
Office 365 nice we're just building our
servers now and everything all right so guys we got a great show for you this
week I did cover some of the topics uh that's pretty much all I have so uh we
might do some Twitter blitzes and stuff like that I've got a lot of people in
twitch chat asking when is the next scrapyard Wars coming so they are
scheduled so we actually have a plan every Saturday night hour time at
midnight so technically Sunday morning a new part of scrapyard Wars 2 will be
released so it'll be one week ahead on vessel and then it'll be whatever people
on vessel saw last week on YouTube until we're done we are committed to the
weekly Cadence so we're not going to do that thing with multi-part stuff anymore
where we actually don't have most of it filmed until we start releasing it and
then we get busy with other things and then it's a month between Parts no we're
not doing that anymore the new policy at Linus Media Group is we film the
entire thing and then at least it's only
editing that has to be done as we go and
I've got a lot of people that are concerned about you know multi-part
stuff but the reality of it is I've talked about it on the show before it is
what it is it takes one of my guys a week to edit it we maintain all the
other nine videos per week that we do on
Linus Tech tips Channel Super Fun and on
Techquickie and so the rest of my staff has to work on that so I can only tie up
one guy as a dedicated editor for scrapyard Wars so why don't we jum into
our first topic here have you seen this unboxing I have I did see this earlier
today it's been pulled down really y so the unboxing is gone and then when I saw
in the lonus tech tips thread that the 390x unboxing was gone I actually went
over to double check CU you can't believe anything you read on the internet so I went over on the um on
YouTube to check and the video was gone
and there was a video that had been posted like 10 minutes
prior okay that had also been pulled
down oh but you can read the first snippet of the description so I'm going
to I'm going to find that for you so all we know about the 390x from these
unboxings hold on so we can still see them in the search results I'm going to
screen share with you guys here we go is
uh here r9390x unboxing is it is it
pulled already oh it looks gone where is
where did his video go red gaming Tech
no it wasn't it was like super unprofessional like just like some dude
he he looked like he didn't sound like he knew like he wasn't up on everything
he was wondering where the missing Crossfire fingers were right and then he
was which if he know a 290x those don't
exist on that GPU anymore the Hawaii
yeah so and then he was calling the back plate a heat SN which it technically is
a heat sink by the way so people were hating on him pretty hard for that and I
was like come on you guys are just you guys are just being jerks about it but
you know what I can't even find it I can't even find it in the search results
anymore why don't I take out R9 maybe just 390x unboxing is going to bring
this puppy up for prob G it probably just took a while for it to propagate
through all the servers including search look at that but I did see it and it was y yely
okay so basically what the card looks like and I don't actually have any specs
or information for the 390x so I guess I can speculate what it looks like is an
R9 290x with 8 gigs of RAM which is one
of the prevailing rumors about the R9
390x much to the disappointment I think
of everyone while it's mostly the AMD
fans that I see posting that they're really upset that we could be looking at
round two of Rebrand the thing um the
NVIDIA fans should be equally upset because even though AMD's market share
in discreet Graphics is what like 30% I think less than 30% right now L than
yeah when they do something when AMD makes a move or even threatens to make a
move Look boom we got seven excuse me we got 980 TI because NVIDIA wants to like
proactively stomp on whatever AMD is trying to do on the radon side that is
how we get NVIDIA to not be asleep at the wheel and concerned about putting
tegas into cars if AMD does stuff we will get better
graphics cards and better pricing from NVIDIA so we should we should all be
happy if 390x is is freaking awesome but
it doesn't really look that way the prevailing rumor now is that Fiji XT and
Fiji which will be possibly available in water and air cooled versions and like a
little tiny card with a radiator there's lots of lots of pictures leaking all the
time are going to be the only allnew
gpus maybe maybe maybe the rumor is they
have enhanced the 29x they the Hawaii is
now an enhanced version but we don't
know what enhanced means could just mean a higher claw could mean there was one
article with very little credibility that R9 290x was not a fully featured
Hawaii chip in the first place really I don't know if I buy that because I can't
imagine a world where AMD thought that
that power hungry of a chip was GNA have
more functional units enabled on it that'd be really hot
so yeah I'm I'm really not sure I mean we we I don't think we ever got die
shots from them so it's it's it's possible it's theoretically possible um
the same thing looks like it did happen with Tonga where we got a 256bit card
and then oh all of a sudden oh hold on
maybe it's 384 bit Which Scott Watson from Tech report has been saying since
it launched so it looks like some of the
rebranding might actually be unlocking
or a slight retooling but uh Fiji and
Fiji XT which are not going to be cheap in all likelihood are probably going to
be the the only ones that are actually
new uh one cool thing that did come from the 390x unboxing is that pricing was
effectively revealed yes um I can't remember there was a Best Buy listing
too I I think wasn't there stock at Best Buy yep yep there
was a there was a Best Buy uh leak yesterday I believe Source uh Source
here is Reddit I'm just going to hold on I got to sign out of the Forum so that
I'm not uh doing
that R9
39x oh please work you searchbox
you um there we go all right I'll screen share with you guys here
r9390x unboxing
r9390x uh Best Buy there we go in stock at Best Buy so
it's XFX is all over all of these leaks
um this image is visible when you're when you're logged in haha anyway it's
an XFX card and pricing is I believe uh
shoot I want to say is it $3.99 or is it
450 can't remember for the right now the Reddit thread say y okay so the Reddit
says 450 I believe that was what the gentleman who posted the unboxing video
had also said that he paid so that is a
little bit scary especially when we consider that the r9290 and the R9 290x
and this is something I think a lot of people have forgotten perform pretty
damn well near the same because R9 or R9
290x used to be priced so much higher
that r9290 was the one that everyone was buying and then R9 290x got a lot more
reasonable in price thanks to the fact that it basically performed the same and
you can pick up R9 290 x's on New Egg
for uh 360 bucks or as low as oh is that
$299.99 that's a good value that's with a mail and rebate however so $30 of that
discount is an Mir but still if you're going to tell me that for another two
excuse me another four gigs of RAM for eight gigs of RAM I'm going to be paying
another $150 you better have something else
under the hood not only that but if you actually the
listing under this that 360 bucks for an 8 gig r928 uh 290x oh yeah that's 8 gigs
already it wouldn't be the first time this happened I mean back when uh r92
adx launched 7970 GHz Edition was a lot
cheaper and 7950 back when we first started lonus Media Group 7950 were the
card to buy and that continued well into the 280 and 280X life cycle because
they were just cheaper because they had an older model name so if you were Savvy
you were getting exactly the same card in that case yep and AMD even allows you
to Crossfire them so I'll be that's right show the same I mean is that the
ultimate admission of we didn't change anything if people are allowed to Crossfire 390x and three and 290 XS that
being said AMD has always been more flexible about allowing you to Crossfire
that's true different things where NVIDIA is just like it has to be exactly
the same nothing but exactly the same I find that really frustrating I mean they
they did ease up on it a little bit different clock speeds and different
vendors you can mismatch those yes um
but they used to allow mismatched memory amounts and they stopped actually in
fact there was uh I found some ancient guide when I was looking into it again
that referenced the cool bits tweak which used to be awesome cool bits was
freaking amazing until it completely disappeared off the face of the planet
um and and anyway so you could somehow blah blah blah mix and match uh video
memory and I believe that was on the NVIDIA site I sent them a memo about it
I was like Yo cool bits is so not a thing anymore and also you can't do that
anymore and I don't think it was ever even super official but no yeah now I me
there is no reason that you shouldn't have been able to SLI a GTX 680 and a
GTX 770 well even more recently Ed tried to SLI a 770s but they had different
memory and he's like yep nope nope tried
everything not work yep will not work they do not they do not allow it so
let's move on to our next topic here this was oh oh so that unboxing was
posted by inor in imor in IM
Igor maybe it's Ln Igor like liquid nitrogen I don't know what I don't know
what he's going for there the next one is Shan Angelo is the original poster
here and the original article is from n
gadet let's go ahead and pop that baby up on the screen this is looking like
one freak freaking heck of a camera if you are into that sort of thing this is
the A7 R2 Sony's fullframe mirrorless
DSLR sort ofish camera I mean yes it is
an SLR it's like it's a 42.4 megapixel
still camera like just absolutely
whooping the butt of its predecessor at
36.4 megapixels and even more
impressively this one shoots 4K video now so it looks like it's going up
straight against something like the Panasonic GH4 I'll be it at a higher
price but Sony is it's the one thing we
can really say this about Sony is the
Imaging sensor Master right now yep Sony
is at the top of their game and I think that and uh and what is it like um Sony
Financial I have no idea yeah I think those are that was that was it for
profit man and there might have been something
else and I apologize to any of the Sony fans who I missed something that
something else that Sony does well but um I mean we're fans of Sony I mean you
you use Sony for the fs y uh Tech tips uses ncx Tech tips uses the vg900 which
is the fullframe camcorder yep and uh
yeah so okay so it has the world's first
back illuminated sensor giving it a sensitivity of up to 102,000
400 ISO now sounds insane to be clear
that's it's not usable like you can't use that but that is still it like it
works you can turn it up that high you can get an image there's actually uh
shoot what was that previous uh Sony
seas in the Dark YouTube wasn't it the a7s that can see basically in a dark
room uh yeah I believe so so yeah yeah
hold on I had looked at a video uh earlier today and it was it just blew my
mind yeah here it is Sony a7s uh low
light test in complete darkness oh sorry
sorry sorry pick optic for more speed
with blazing fast internet this video is pretty Inc so
6400 ISO 12,800 ISO now even the fs700
the one we have I think goes up to 32,000 or something like that but this
is a whole other level so this is 50,000
I so a7s is bananas this room has no
lights on so they they Crank It Up even further
I think to yeah there it is I mean it gets grainy yeah I mean that's the
that's what happens when you crank up there it is that's 400,000 ISO and you
can see if I zoom in um that is some
super super duper grainy footage but the
fact that it can see anything is pretty darn impressive yeah uh what else do we
have to say about
this ount camera that's okay because um
you know hopefully we will get an adapter from our friends over Aton yeah
metabones thank you we'll get a speed booster can you imagine this thing with
a speed booster that's pretty impressive I must say it's going to be ridiculous
um five access image stabilization is another thing now it's not cheap um they
are targeting $3,200 so for people who are kind of
like GH4 A7 R2 wow $1,200 is an awful lot of
money not to mention that Panasonic has that new uh there's that newer cheaper
4K like Panasonic G7 I believe they have
a launch event in Vancouver in not that
long from now that one's only $1,000 also does 4K video recording but
unlike the GH4 does not have uh the most
modern sensor right so you know take
that for what it is I haven't seen any results from that one yet so hopefully
we'll learn a little bit more about that soon I'm sure the Vimeo crowd will upload all sorts of videos from it the
Vimeo crowd is is is pretty good about that aren't they y all right next topic
here guys posted by Sam Needham on the Forum I can't believe people were giving
poor Sam crap over this the first reply to the post which Sam entitled
Apple WWDC 2015 official thread was like
something along the lines of who died and made you the king of making an official thread for
wwc come on it's a nice thing to do Sam did a
great job of posting he curated it it
was nice it was good he did what to expect bunch of Stu OS 10
10.11 iOS 9 new streaming music service
which is all pretty much bang on uh there were a couple things that were
Miss missing particularly Apple watch things that we missing in the what to
expect but I think we still got to give Sam credit here he did a good job he did
a good job um so here's a bunch of pictures from the keynote but I've got
uh I I'll try and cover what I thought was the most interesting stuff they went
with os10 L capan I thought that was really weird I like it's a mountain
inside y so is this a sub
version they didn't change much so maybe
true maybe maybe that's what the the reason he was but it also sounds
ridiculous it's like what OS are you running El
Capitan yeah it doesn't sound very Apple
likee no it's you know lion cheetah you
can get behind those even even yose was kind of like okay well that's you know
the the first thing I thought of and and maybe this is just cuz I'm you know an
idiot but I went y Sam yep I kind of
went okay like if they'd gone with Everest I don't know
Kilimanjaro or something some of the some of the more famous natural
landmarks I think would have been more appropriate yeah anyway all right so
what have we got here and I know not all of you guys are necessarily the hugest
fans of Apple but I'm going to talk about what they did in the context of
why it's important for us even if we aren't particularly fans of Apple um I
so we'll start with uh actually you know what I told toally forgot to put you I'm
going to start with iOS 9 because uh there's something I forgot to put in my
notes and I remember just now so uh Force touch is coming to iOS 9 which
presumably means that an upcoming iPhone will also support Force touch force
touch is really cool I really hope that
either Apple's patent web around Force
touch is not strong enough or everyone will just blatantly copy them anyway
because I would love to see Force touch on more devices as soon as possible it's
really cool it's like really good haptic feedback like done properly yeah and and
it the funny thing about it was I actually got confused when I was working
on my review of the MacBook 2015 because
I was like I thought they said the touchpad doesn't move I thought I got to
use it like last weekend for the first time and people are all saying like oh
it's it's like as if you're using a touchpad that clicks I'm like how could
it be like really you're you're going to fool my fingers with vibrations
I was like I was doubtful but it works it really does work and even though I it
didn't work in Windows I forced myself to use OS 10 for a little bit of my time
with the device being able to have that second layer of functionality fixes the
lack of right click for me like if I could go press for left click press hard
for right click all of a sudden I never need to take my finger off the trackpad
anymore how cool is that I don't have to
worry about these these buttons that I always want and I want to be nice and
nice and you know tactile so that I can twoand it don't need that anymore very
very cool and if it also you know makes it thinner and gives you extra room for
these thin and lights to give more space for whatever else always better I mean
not that Apple necessarily crams anything that useful in them you razor
managed to that that's the thing people say like I see a lot of comparisons
between the blade and the MacBook Pro and I kind of go there is no comparison
razor managed to cram a GTX 970m in here
what did Apple do yep I mean I guess they put a bigger battery in okay that
has value to some people all right so let's talk other iOS stuff here um this
is really cool how did this take so long when someone calls you from an unknown
number it checks your like emails and and crap and tries to find it in an
email signature or something and is like hey this might be this
person yep that's awesome that's that's
smart that's freaking awesome I hope someone someone else copies it because I
don't always add people to my contacts like pretty much never unless I'm like
sure that this person is going to be contacting me for a while cuz it's it
takes extra time and effort and if it just can be like hey this is probably
Jane that called you about that thing you asked about you know that's way
better freaking awesome um Safari pinned
sites I can't believe they even showed this off I can't believe this was even a
highlight feature oh no sorry I'm back on out sorry I'm no I'm doing iOS first
sorry sorry sorry What's happen improved improved search with suggested people
apps nearby locations and news really cool they've also added an API for
search that's the big one obviously it's the developer conference the reason
that's important is now all of a sudden app developers can allow search to
search their app and they can actually deep link within their app so if I have
let's say um an app that I transcode videos from a server and then can load
them onto my device I could search for that and I could deep link and Play that
video directly and when I press back it'll go back to my search results Ah
that's pretty freaking cool yeah um they've added some proactive features
well that was a word they really wanted to use a lot here uh so for example when
you plug in a headphone jack a little music icon shows up in the bottom left
you know you can swipe up from the bottom right for the camera well now you can swipe get out of
here who's moving in the background that's burkel and I saw him with a
rubber band hand gun I think they have ruined their element of surprise and I
have I have a half empty container of orange juice that I'm going to throw at
you if you come in during the show yeah that's right it's been on
Nick's desk for God knows how long so it's probably rotten orange juice be
prepared um okay where are we going
right so that's not really that's not groundbreaking I mean Yahoo's aviate
launcher has been a lot more contextually aware than that for a long
time yes um but that's that's cool the
one thing they showed off that impressed me a little bit more was he's like oh
well I usually meditate in the morning so now there's a meditation app there
and obviously I don't give two craps about that but if it knows because the
first thing I do when I roll over in my bed in the morning is I check my email
like what do you do yep I check my email first thing so if I don't even have to
in my blur eyed State figure out like where my email app is which I'm not an
idiot I can find my email app I know if I can just do it with one touch hey
great little things like that make the device more natural to use yep um Apple
pay just got support from Square which is really cool that interesting
partnership yeah that should really Drive adoption for the the little guys
who can barely accept credit card at all and now can take Apple pay yep but the
bigger one for me actually is the Loyalty program integration so being
able to store all of your loyalty cards and Apple pay means I mean how many okay
here let's do it you got your wallet yep
okay and I'm going to straw pull you guys I want you guys to tell me tell me
tell me about this straw pole
okay how many loyalty SL rewards cards
are in your wallet or purse right now so
let's go with zero uh let's go with sort
of one to three I'd say as a light user uh four to eight would be actually no
let's go 1 to two is a light user and then let's say 3 to five is a medium
user and then 6 Plus is a heavy user and
I want I want to hear from you guys all right I'm going to post this in
the chat give me just a second here guys oh where's my chat link I don't have
Luke to help me you're not as good as Luke that's why I didn't hire you oh
well that's that's a cheap that's a cheap shot it's a cheap shot okay so I'm
going to throw the I'm sorry I really am a terrible person
um there's no excuse all right so hold on let me let me okay you you really no
way that's how many I've got so it's it's a stack what is all this crap do
you mind yeah here let me insult you and then dig through your some of them are
gift cards to be fa so Timmy H but still
yep Timmy H um the glow ball connection
gift card yep Home Depot okay Air Miles
and bigger smiles Scene Card these are
cool these are handy Scene Card so movie movie rewards Costco okay Great West
Life okay I don't think that counts okay that's fair uh BCAA okay you don't have
to pay for that but if you could I mean if Apple pay could be expanded to
include hey any card I can get out of my wallet really cabs yep huh and this is
like uh like it's a corporate like like
membership card and then uh Bubblicious Tea House VIP card yeah that counts you
know I actually have a membership card for like a party supplies store oh yeah
cuz we get props and crap there um I don't think I have that in my wallet I
think I have that one in my car but I'm going to count it if they can make it
easy enough for little guys to implement it I mean they don't have to print cards
they don't have to worry about all that stuff if they can just get apple that they this is still hypothetical but like
um Recreation Center membership cards I don't see any reason why you couldn't
use something like an apple e wallet type thing for that I also have a BCAA
membership but I'm a pretty light user most of mine are debit and credit cards
um so I want to but I want to I want to hear from the viewers like how many of
you guys would see a significant Improvement wow wow 35% of you have zero
loyalty or rewards cards mind you I guess I technically don't have any
either I don't have any loyalty or rewards cards in my wallet I do keep a
couple in my car though and another 29%
of you are one to two so that's 50
excuse me 65% of you have between zero
and two Loyalty Rewards cards you guys are really the wrong audience for this
particular Apple pay feature I mean 16% of you have a turnup in your wallet
apparently that's a thick wallet yeah that takes the George castanza wallet to
a whole new level yeah interesting well
I thought that was a big deal so apparently I was wrong maps maps now
supports Transit which is like Google
feature from a long time ago from like a bazillion years ago okay it is cool that
they've actually mapped out the subway stations and then accounted for not like
arriving there but also arriving there and like traversing through it to the
correct platform that's fair that's very cool um but I think they're only
supporting something like I think it was I want to say 12 or
16 like major Global around the so like
there's one city in Canada and we can all guess which one that is not here not
Vancouver so uh yeah and then there's like I think London New York there's
like there's a couple cities and then surprisingly a bunch of places in China
and they skip they went through that slide like really fast they were like
Global roll out it's like a handful of cities plus I think it was it was like
30 or 300 or something cities in China yeah I was a shocking amount really
aggressive aggressive L pushing this feature in China where I guess public
transit is maybe not more of a thing but maybe
more maybe more confusing or maybe less routine well I don't have any numbers
solid numbers but everyone I know that is a relative that lives in China has an
iPhone like everybody like I asked them
they you have Android they're just like what I
iPhone there you go e um the app okay
app switcher and multitasking finally coming and it's really funny because we
can look at something like okay Samsung has had like multi- window view stuff
for for a while two years now I mean it hasn't always been great but they've had
it no it's always sucked that's the problem so Samsung has had two years to
iterate on this stuff and
then we've apparently got line of tech tips viewers rolling by on their on
their bikes um so Samsung's had a couple years to iterate on this and comes out
the gate and has an implementation that just looks way better like just way
better have you seen the videos I have not yet okay bunch of functionality so
you swipe in from the side you can bring in a thing and then you do another thing
I think you click it or double click it or something can't remember um but it it
looked really intuitive to use and then that brings up a bunch of other compatible side view apps that you can
scroll through then all you do is you touch the divider and you can move it
over to make it not just like like Microsoft's done this Samsung's done
this this this is this stuff that's been done but it's done really well here
Microsoft's implementation on Windows RT when it first launched was not very good
on the surface um this looks really
really good and the apps can run side by side they're fully interactive they
showed off the demo where they're actually touching both apps at the same time not that I can think of too many
situations where that would come in handy uh much like the keyboard we
reviewed this week that supports 256 key
presses simultaneously all of them so
you could actually have like in an alternate universe another one of the
same keyboard and you could press all the buttons on that too and the
processor wouldn't B down okay steel series you did good um
they finally and this is more of a finally for Apple they finally
dramatically improved cursor and highlighting finally and copy paste
functionality is now built into the quick type keyboard and this is
something that I believe Sony and LG
have both done reasonably well in the past but picture and picture uh video
watching while you're doing other things oh I like that a lot freaking awesome
really glad to see it uh the integration looks really good so now with search you
can search it'll search for YouTube videos or even videos within your apps
once they uh once they use the search API to make themselves searchable you
can be like Play you can move it around this is a cool feature and this is
something that surprisingly uh surprisingly sort of out of the box
actually is you can drag the video so just a sliver of it is showing you
actually put most of it off screen and
like I'm like oh yeah that's a really good idea yep you would never want to do
that on a desktop because why you have so much screen real estate but on a
tablet I could actually see that being very useful if you just want to listen
for a bit very cool yep I want it on
Android like like just like that yeah
and the good news is it'll probably happen eventually yep let's talk os10 l
capy 10 uh this is cool new gestures uh
okay okay this is this is one of those ones where I'm kind of going you really
are catering to kind of a like I don't
want to say a a simpler audience but they've got a new gesture
where when you get to your computer you kind of move your mouse around to see where it is it gets huge for a second so
you can find it oh I suspect that that feature will
mostly only be useful to the people who need jumbo Mouse cursors in the first
place but well to be fair I run four
monitors and sometimes I'm like which
one is it on cuz I've got a 1440p and
then like three 1080s as an optional feature to enable all right all right
all right I'll I'll give you this apple some people will use it they've also got
touchpad gestures now for marking emails on red or deleting them something that
we've had on Android forever go go
figure way to go Samsung you were you were light years ahead of the game on
this particular one yep um Safari pinned
sights how is this a feature this is laughable the fact that you can have
pinned sites in Safari I mean like here
here's my Chrome they're like yeah so
like your PIN sites so the pin sites actually stack up next to your tabs in
Safari which I guess is efficient CU you don't actually have to use up two
separate rows for them so you just take them and you kind of go okay now it's a
now it's pinned and I'm kind of sitting here going okay but I could
just oh actually technically apparently I cannot do that okay well I thought you
could do whatever I don't have difficulty creating pinning things
anyway there pin right click pin this is why right click is good that's just as
fast um so
I yeah I I I really don't see how this is a feature they're like yeah
so you can like you can like open it check this out you can like open it
and then your like pin thing is still there and I'm like yeah Okay so we've
had that so again the the functionality that the many button Mouse affords us
middle click on a pinned bookmark open a
new tab wow so revolutionary very amazed
much wow um Spotlight can be re they
actually joked about this this cuz I I think a lot of these updates they know
that they're pretty trivial um Spotlight on OS 10 can now be resized and even
moved around but that's because it has a lot more functionality so you can um you
can search with natural terms you can be like documents I just worked on um
emails from this person that I haven't read yet I like that that's very cool um
and it can search for like more stuff now can't remember the details and I
didn't make very good notes Apple search has always been better here's another
catch up and overtake Microsoft thing and yes Apple search is way ahead of
Microsoft search um but Microsoft was
still ahead of the game for window management it blew me away when I did my
OS 10 I switched and I realized that
when you switch to a new a new active window it would just like go on your
screen like wherever the crap you left it and the only way to resize stuff
other than you know their horrible like theater mode full screen which is so
obnoxious I hate it it's it's awful it's
horrendous please don't take away all my buttons you got a 5k
display don't do that anyway um it blew
me away that there was no way to just you know snap stuff or throw it into
quadrants or I mean even even stupid stuff like oh I'm going to put it kind
of here and this is like the one Improvement that they've made to Aeros snap SN since they launched it now I can
make it full height well finally Apple
does AOS snap so you can go sides and
sides and they actually blew Microsoft
away on this one when you Aeros snap something to the left you get an expose
on the right and you can pick what you want your right side to be which makes a
ton of sense that is faster than snapping something going in hunting for
CU I don't snap something to one side unless I want something else on the
other side yep thinking outside the box I mean we got Arrow snap with
Vista yes how has it not I me and yes
they've added things I know they've added things not enough things at all
and you know what's really funny to me about Vista is remember the horrible
multitasking interface from Vista the Windows tab yeah that that horrendous
Windows tab like slideshow thing yes
that's apparently where we're going back to lollipop has it yeah iOS has it now
how did that come back into fashion it was horrible then it's horrible now like
anytime you have to animate when I'm multitasking you know multitasking is a
power user feature in in itself so what
power user wants to go Windows Tab and wait for the the Windows to shuffle in
and then animate to the front of your screen now in iOS's defense um the it
looked pretty smooth when they were doing it m but the stupid thing about it
and they pitch this as a feature is your multi M tasking things that you swipe
through are like full screen they're big so you can see them I don't need to read
it I just need to know what app it is
show me more stuff anyway that that that made me sad uh
let's see how hard twitch is hating on the fact that I'm talking about
WWDC um people are like Windows 10 did
they bring it back in Windows 10 because I don't I don't particularly like I
haven't actually play with Windows 10 I don't particularly like the Windows Tab and Windows 8 either um and this isn't
great either unless you have a touchcreen this is actually great with the touchcreen because bip Bop you can
be like yeah alt tab that thank you this
is fast but the whole like slid show
thing I think is horrendous um what I'd
like to see is the closest we can get to HTC's I'm not sure if they actually do
it anymore but the sense multitasking where it just is expose style yeah my M8
is oh I think people are telling me that Windows 10 does the expose style
thing really yeah hold on let me have a look let me
have a look let me have a look Windows yeah I have my a lot of people have
asked me um if I'm covering Windows 10 and I generally don't even touch a
Windows OS until it's released because I'm going to go and I'm going to the
first thing I'm going to do in order to actually use it is I'm going to put it on a production machine
so there you go uh so I generally don't
really feel feel like I don't really feel like
using pre-release software so okay so
snap Assist 2 by2 snapping and vertical snap features da da da okay snap assist
yeah there you go okay thank you you guys totally wrecked me on that one I
appreciate that because at least we managed to not get through the entire
show without it being corrected this is why I love you guys twitch chat like you
know what that's where the twitch chat is best used when it takes 4,000 people
saying the same thing to get something done that is Twitch chat 4,000 people
saying the same thing over and over again I love you
guys um automatic straw hole did someone
reupload the 390x unboxing I see someone posting something a bunch of them yeah
so that's that's interesting it's really terrible so we really don't need to watch it but there's really not much
it's got the double de cooler with the
fast assets on it just and he flips it
over it's like back blate uh that's it
all right so more Apple crap and this is really important not because it's Apple
but because it's uh a huge industry shift so they've done some performance
optimization in L capan uh they're quoting things like 4X PDF opening
performance uh 2x app switching performance um 1.4x app launch
performance something along those lines don't quote me on those numbers they're not they're not the important part
necessarily what's important is that
these performance optimizations look like a big part of
what they're spending time on and why would they be doing that well corm not
corm I think they're going to do their own CPU probably in the next two years
so I think I think because the thing about it and and I've had people go oh
lonus you're an idiot because you know it would break x86 application
compatibility it would do this do that it's not like Apple's never done that before
yep in fact they don't care yeah they don't they don't give a crap they're
going to go with whatever they think is the best long-term user experience and
they're going to they're going to rock that out and they're going to get
developer support in a way that no one else really seems to um because they
make it so profitable for developers that's why developers are so excited
about WWDC uh I've got a bunch of messages
from uh from people oh yeah okay oh okay
both Ed and uh and Nick are messaging me
with uh with crap about the um the the
390x unboxing that is that is back apparently and for some reason they also
want to know what your favorite band is what are you guys doing
all right so that was the that coming that was that was the fully that was the
fully auto um rubber band well one of
the fully automatic rubber band guns that's going to be on an upcoming
Channel Super Fun um right okay so where are we going with this okay so there's
all those optimizations and then the Metal Graphics API which is pretty much
the Apple answer to a mantle or a dx12
in terms of the what we're trying to achieve here so better performance out
of the same Graphics hardware and then
um actually this is really cool so they're claiming up to eight times
better after effects performance better than opencl and openg uh with their
partner Adobe using the metal API so
that would be very impressive better power consumption better
performance um wow looking very looking
very very cool so
yeah I will be I will be surprised if they don't do if they don't have like I
don't think it necessarily has to be a desktop you know running Apple's own CPU
I don't think that's the point I think it would be more like a Macbook 3 like a
Macbook 2015 gen 3 or something like that like a hyper mobile device running
you know OS 10 some Mount St Helens or
whatever stupid completely tasteless Mountain they decide to use Crater Lake
um I'll skim to through the rest of it pretty quickly cuz that was the stuff that I thought was interesting uh watch
OS 2 is coming it allows native apps now that was fast um it allows uh new more
informative watch faces with like Dynamic backgrounds that you can have be
time lapse video that they took of something or something and um it has
this is cool so you can have information displayed dynamically so like your next
appointment and weather and then you can kind of use the crown and be like oh well what about my appointment after
that and the weather later and like what about even ler than that so they're
calling that Time time travel or something time travel feature yeah yeah
apple man they just all they have to do is use the word magic and and then it's
and other Associated things it's like yeah it's time travel like now I feel
really cool while I do this yeah I'm time traveling into the future I've got
a dentist appointment it's
exciting um they've improved contact sorting on the watch they've added email
replies basically it's just feature
creep so they're they're adding more features to get it up closer to feature
parody with um with uh uh Android Wear
thank you why couldn't I remember what it was called I where the hell is my
charger for the gatch R I ordered it like two weeks ago I haven't used the
gatr since the latest wear update
well going to like attack something I'm
just excited for the native apps so that they don't have to stream everything
also the Apple music announcement was the biggest load of fluff nonsense that
I think that I've ever seen it was basically just a bunch of touchy F BS
it's coming in at a similar price to other streaming services you're going to
be able to listen to music just like other streaming services they're adding
a 247 radio station that's broadcasting
from La New York and London because those are like trendy cities so I should
care where a radio station I'm listening to is broadcasting from why do I care I
I have no idea it's the radio it could be broadcasting from the Moon well that
would be cool that' be pretty cool yeah or Mars station yeah starring Elon Musk
yeah okay that would be cool if it's a city on earth I don't give a
crap broadcast from underground okay that would be cool it just seemed like
it was a me too feature I can't even come up with something stupid enough to
be as stupid as caring anyway so 24/7
radio which I guess there's a lot of radio stations so whatever and this is
this is sort of cool but I also kind of look at it as potentially just tedious
um so they have their connect feature where artists and their fans can
interact so an artist could like upload
exclusive content or they could just put that on Twitter or something it seems
like an odd thing that they wouldn't that they would do yeah you can upload
music videos and photos to fans so I guess Apple wants to be a social network
now I guess which I I don't really understand I guess I don't really
understand the benefit because Apple has made it very clear that they are not in
the business of farming your social network data so what's in it for them I
don't know maybe they're just artsy fartsy and they want you know more ways
for it almost seems like a reaction to tidle they're like oh title's got all
these artist and they're signed up and they're going to be like that's their hub for their music and they're like
Apple's like yeah we can do that too you can you can post stuff to your
fans with apple music yeah I I I don't
really I don't really care I mean they're going to convert a ton of people
regardless just because it's apple and
it's going to be like gee what music subscription service should I get for my
iPhone I guess I'll get apple music um
but I just I'll need to see them do something a little bit more interesting with it before I can get super excited
tighter integration is always always nice especially when we're talking about
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directly to the link and I can copy it from my browser bar because I'm not that stupid or we just copy it automatically
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you can send bills to your clients you can see that they've read them which is
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you can get paid through it as well via credit card so it makes it the the
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my my parents were teachers right so like I always thought that I
was going to grow up and go to university and just be a
teacher I I I even thought outside the box that far I think it's a lot easier
now with the internet because now you can you know like you can use
Squarespace and set up your business and then you can you know use linda.com to
learn how to do something that's right linda.com to learn everything else and
then you know you charge people with fresh freshbooks but like honestly you
can start up businesses way easier you can get a reach you can get an audience
you can create a business with lot less
effort than it used to take and the really interesting thing is that those kinds of services play a huge part in
that I mean can you imagine a world and it's funny because I can I lived in it
uh can you imagine a world where to start up a business you had to have an
accountant yep or learn how to do bookkeeping straight up or you had to
you had to pay someone and remember in the early days of website creation how
expensive it was to get you someone to make something anything more complicated
than a geoc city site would cost a fortune because it was really
complicated there was no there was no interface it was a guy coding it line by
line to have the proper alignment to have tables and everything it's
complicated to make a website from scratch like from scratch coming from
someone that has a development background it's not easy and nowadays
it's just like yep here's my website I'm going to like drag and drop I mean it's
not quite that easy but I'm going to like drag and drop some nice pictures it's pretty close to a Squarespace like
you click on something it's like hey I'd like an image here with a caption and a
paragraph and it's like I want that on every page and it just does it it makes
a part of your template and makes it really nice so yeah it's and I guess
that's probably pretty important given that you know uh you you've heard about
the McDonald's fully automated restaurant I love bringing it up because
it's the scariest thing ever because that is
going to kill so many entrylevel jobs
you're to be a kid in high school with no way to put gas in your car because
there is nothing to do for like a summer
or weekend job seriously automation is
going to kill a lot of low paying jobs so kids are going to have to get off
their butts make a website come up with
like something cool to sell on the Internet or or or whatever or whatever
it is they're going to have to be entrepreneurial that's going to be a big
change I mean it's no secret that the corporation ations man have been trying
to cut back the amount they pay and the
numbers that they need of the little
workers going to have to find something else to do yeah this video is the one I
always refer appeal to the humans need not apply it's really good video it's
really well done but it's just like there are a lot of jobs that machines
can do more consistently they can work without sleep and all you need is a
mechanic just to make sure you know when things break down they're like oh here
let me swap it apart and then the whole machine keeps running yep and
you know what it's funny I uh I had a I had a conversation with um with my
sister's boyfriend yesterday um he's going into helicopter pilot training
which it turns out is a $60,000 4month program holy SM yeah and
you're like not going to get a job at that point you have to do like
apprenticeship stuff like you're paid but like you're not paid paid like a
like a pilot paid yet um and I was like not to men paying off the school that
you just spent money on exactly so I was
like okay so hey like what's the plan he's like well you know it pays really
well it's always been a dream of mine I kind of go yeah yeah yeah that's cool
I'm with you so far and I kind of went well what about what about automation of
jobs and I I brought up the McDonald's because I love talking about it I think it's fascinating and he kind of goes
well you know in Flight a lot of unpredictable things are going to happen
and humans are way better at that than machines and that's
true but I kind of went well you know 10
years ago uh how smart was a machine now
we have consumer grade drones that you can literally draw on your tablet here's
some way points yes and come back when you're done that's 10 years think about
what another 10 years is going to do to automation not to mention that I think
within 10 years maybe 20 uh even if we
need a real live pod they're going to be flying remotely there's no way you're
going to put a pilot in that you know uh firefighting helicopter if you don't
have to nope you could just carry uh more firefighting material instead of a
chair and a person you get a VR headset
you get a cockpit and it's like and you have a 360 camera it's like you're
you're sitting there cuz you can look around to see you know your pereral because that's one of the main things
that's hard about driving remotely is that you've got like this one fixed
camera you've got your screen it's like you've got no peripheral or anything
else but if you can get like a a rig where you can basically pilot a drone
remotely that's that's the dream that's
freaking freaking incredible speaking of drones I got I I tell you I got one of
the uh the Phantom 3s no but I saw your post on uh on Twitter or Instagram or
something it's super fun yeah cuz it's
they Incorporated the light Bridge technology so you get a full 720p view
as you're flying in which is like light years ahead of the Phantom 2 which is
where you get like this 480p 15 frames per second and it was like really really
bad resolution it's
fun yeah very cool stuff um the the Bop
is not that sophisticated it's still using Wi-Fi but um that's the closest
thing I have the good thing about the Bop is it's got that redonkulous antenna
module that you can attach to it yes with that you've got got a pretty good
live view still very grainy mhm it's not going to be like full quality 720p right
but a lot better and you know what actually drones tie really well into
this next topic uh Oculus finally sort
of has a launch date this was posted on the Forum by Lord Sparkle bottom and uh
is some pretty uh pretty vague stuff
actually okay they didn't they didn't give us like a whole ton of detail um
the design the design looks much more uh
consumer friendly than some of the earlier designs that really were kind of
square and looked very developer Kitty uh let me see if I can uh I almost
thought that was a disadvantage cuz I was like it just looks so like it just
looks so smooth now really cuz I was
like well it doesn't look it doesn't have that like oh you're clearly wearing something that's different now it just
seems something that's just kind of like it's very smooth cuz it's got that
fabric on the outside on the outside that's really
unexpected I mean I'm going to get so much Dorito cheese stained into that
cloth I think that might have M to obstruct the the LEDs right cuz the LEDs
are sitting right below that mhm and so now you don't have exposed LEDs on the
other side like Crystal Cove you've just got this single black meshed covering
yeah I uh I really I really like the look of it and I'm trying to find a good
picture right now well here's a here's a render so this might be this might be
the best we can do for the moment uh but you can see you can see a couple of
things here so we've got what they're calling what is it VR sound or something
like that yeah so the head the the headband comes straight around and then
they've got these two kind of things that just sit on the headband looks kind
of like upside down like bug antenna yeah yeah um fortunately thank goodness
for this you can remove the crap out of those and put your own headphones on so
that's like super nice uh there we go there's a there's a better look at um
how incredibly uncom those are going to be I mean if you're the kind of person
where superal headphones work for you
then great they do not work for me I don't think they mentioned if there's a
headphone jack on Oculus is there I
don't think we don't have much in terms of specs y all they're saying is custom
low persistence display they give they gave a resolution did they yes I saw a
resolution here somewhere I missed higher than 1080p okay but I mean we
already had 1440p so I mean for for them to reduce
it would be would be pretty pretty stupid
uh yeah I oh oh 2160 by 1200 at 90 Herz
split over the Dual displays yeah okay
was this you get 1080 by 1200 per eye
okay okay and then um oh that yeah okay that should be okay
I mean it's not 4K and hopefully that's coming soon the other big deal is uh
what are they calling this uh Oculus touch or something like that yes can you
double check I have I have it in there Oculus touch so this was the other big
one so the the rift consumer version will ship sometime in q1 2016 so we have
some idea when it's coming now at least and it will come with an Xbox One
controller so that's a partnership that they've entered with Microsoft however
sometime in the first half of 2016 the Oculus touch is going to become
available this is a wireless although we've got uh weote flinging prevention
wrist straps on it thank goodness cuz that that gripping that thing is going
to be yeah you know dangerous this is going to be so it's a wireless
lightweight and both hand tracking and
gesture capable controller so you've actually got some traditional controls
on here you've got buttons and joysticks but you'll also be able to do things
like give a thumbs up up or or point at
something yeah there's there's grip handles underneath that have a button so
that you can like make gestures with it and there's sensors on the inside of
that ring the the ring on the inside has sensors so you can detect your fingers
so presumably you could flip someone off if you really wanted to if you were into
that sort of thing I can think of a lot of reasons in game I might want to flip someone off I can see that a lot of
people are probably going to do that yep very very cool obviously is going to
rely on developer support and terms of amazing games for the
Oculus EV Valkyrie is kind of looking like the one right now I honestly think
that VR games the one where it excels is anything that has a cockpit you got a
car you got a ship you got a I guess boat anything that has like a vehicle
because that's going to be your natural experience cuz you're sitting in a seat
yeah and you're going to be looking around so that basically the Pilot's view is going to be here because if
you're if you're trying to do an FPS like how you turn 180 the rail shooter
yes right the not rail shooter oo and
the and the thing about a rail shooter is that they're going to have to figure out like my actually actually my first
VR experience was at plaum remember plaum yes okay so town so so plaum was a
big arcade at a mall uh near here and I was playing a VR game and I was holding
the gun and I was like looking around I was like wow this is the shiz this is so
cool and I was like like shooting at stuff and then I wanted to look over
there and like and I realized oh cuz I I
naturally was going like this at first but the Crosshair was just tied to the
VR headset right so motion control on
things like our our weapons on things like our peripherals is going to have to
be light years ahead of of where we're
at now um then again you know these
controllers could help with that but I would prefer a peripheral
no matter how accurate it's going to be if you're talking about Competitive
Gaming I don't think these are ever going to be VR is never going to be the
solution ever is a strong word I don't think so oh well okay competitive no no
no Competitive Gaming yeah a mouse and keyboard is going to be faster yes
straight up faster but you could easily have peripherals that are accurate
enough for competitive VR Gaming yes but
they have to be tied just to VR Gaming
yes yeah it would and you know what's really funny is uh like PC gamers are so
fond of talking about the superiority of the mouse and keyboard compared to a
controller and yet PC gamers are going to be the ones glomming on to VR and the
props that go with them in spite of their inferiority sometimes it is about
the experience which isn't to say that I personally have a better experience with a controller in most games I'm just
saying that just because you can frag someone a little faster with a keyboard
and mouse doesn't necessarily mean that's the be all and end all well going back to the Xbox One the reason why they
wanted it bundled was that they have a a base control mechanism so that basically
everyone that's going to get an Oculus is all going to get the Xbox One controller and little sneaky anouncement
that they announced was oh it's comes with an adapter which also was like oh
the XBox has an adapter now y finally so
that's finally coming which was like why did it take this long why did it why was
it not available at launch Microsoft keeps doing this they did it again
recently and I I missed talking about it on wow that week but they were like yeah
we haven't done a good enough job we're recommitting to PC gamers no again I'll
see if I can find it um Microsoft
recommits to PC Gamers this was like
fairly recent yeah J June the 4th oh wow
uh here we go uh oh no no okay see the second this is so funny this is so funny
check this out you guys so the first link is from June the 4th and the second
hit is from October 9th because oh and
the third one is February 11th 2014
so the first three hits are like three different times they've done this so uh
recommitting blah blah blah blah something something also be shifting its
focus back upon PC Gamers we weren't fully committed as a company and I've
said that before we made commitments blah blah blah Etc one thing that's cool
this is really cool Oculus is getting native support in Windows 10 so that was
another part of the announcement yes which is certainly a better experience than the DK2 that we
have downstairs collecting cuz it's a pain in the butt to use it takes a long
time to get those things set up and working um they also had the the little
control mechanism little camera sensor oh yeah yeah so the the the head
tracking um and I guess presumably hand tracking sensor it looks like one of
those um one of those little film canister style webcams yeah the odd
thing though it seems like it's it almost seemed like still a prototype
because they've got like the camera and then it's got the cable running down the
stem and then in like with like a zap
strap on it you know what's really funny I actually have a comment about this um
let me just see if I can find ah let me see if I can find a
picture of the of the new Oculus
camera be calling it the sensor sensor
sure whatever whatever they're whatever they're calling it it's a camera cameras
have sensors in them Bam um wow
Oculus E3 because it just seems like it it like cuz if it was an actual final
product I would expect you know the cable to come out the base and it you
know to look more final but it just looks oddly like they just had the
camera and they're like oh no the cable all right let's just round it down the
stem and just yeah whatever they had a great render of it in their in their
presentation that made it look like really elegant and it's like yeah that's
the only thing on my desk and if it's like the world's most amazing cable that
like comes out smoothly and that's it's that no you guys it's going to be like
another like stupid thing on my desk and it's going to look really stupid I
actually really like the valve HTC implementation where you where you put
the lighthouse in the corner of the room yep and that'll work better for a lot of
stuff I'm I'm really interested to see the VR Wars over the next little bit um
this is huge posted by booo on the Forum original article here is from polygon
I've been doing a terrible job of linking original articles today just
been a little bit uh all over the
place there we go um YouTube is gonna
have a new gaming site going straight
for twitch Yep this is um original article here is from polygon an obvious
response to Twitch TV
um you know what okay why don't we go through the features first okay and then
and then we'll talk about sort of what this what this all means so number one
is YouTube is real good at archiving
video twitch used to let you archive
pretty much whatever you wanted for as long as you wanted and they backpedal on
that twitch wasn't interested in becoming like the world's largest
repository of stupidly High bit rate
videos that are super intensive to store
and to stream to everyone to be fair I feel like twitch users don't go into the
archives as much as a YouTube user would
so okay so YouTube comes at this with
very different traditional strengths and they were very complimentary to each
other in that way but the funny thing is
and this was always kind of unintuitive to me until I um well until it clicked
like at the beginning I I didn't really understand I was like well anyone who
live streams on Twitch they should have a pretty big YouTube following all they
would have to do is just upload their streams to YouTube and then they should be like pretty big some people are huge
on Twitch and actually have very little YouTube presence because it's a very
different format I mean twitch is more like radio and YouTube is more like a
show yeah and that's how it is um so so
they seemed very complimentary for a long time but YouTube wants a piece of
that pie because twitch has gotten very big and very fat on the enormous amounts
of money that advertisers are willing to spend on live broadcast and that's
that's something we've discovered I didn't understand why Wow with its I
mean thank you very much for watching you guys are awesome mere 5,000 viewers
compared to a YouTube video we could do that would have 200,000 people watch it
live is apparently worth way more to advertised and I was like um okay sure I
I guess we'll make it live yeah well no it was live already y I mean w show
wasn't monetized for a long time actually really yeah the original live
stream didn't have any like it had YouTube monetization and I uploaded it
to YouTube right I wasn't making any money um but I like I discovered this I
was like why does it matter apparently it does um so it'll have dedic so
they're going to have a dedicated they're going to have dedicated pages per game to see live and archived
content and the commitment from YouTube is that gaming will no longer be lost in
the sea of other content so an example
they gave is if you enter call it's not going to pre-populate call me maybe
it'll pre-populate Call of Duty like it'll be smarter about bringing you
gaming content if that's what you're looking for yeah it's not clear exactly
how live interaction will be tweaked um Hangouts broadcasts already have
something that's about as feature Rich As twitch chat at least they have said
that moderation tools will be better um
and this is cool they are promising very
little latency between a stream going
live and you guys getting a notification as well as very little latency between
the stream and the chat which is something that
uh H well twitch tried they they had
that check box yeah they made it better and so they made it better but even
right now when we when I've done Hangouts Live on YouTube it it's much
much faster yep so uh yeah those are
some those are some pretty big advantages right there but okay you know
what okay so here can can YouTube take
it back from twitch and Amazon nope wow wow that was decisive okay why
I think Google does a really good job of making things that are really featur
rich and very good for power users but what they lack is the ability to build
communities like their Community Building skills if Google+ has shown us
anything I just faure I just don't
see YouTube taking it but I mean at the
same time I really like watching live streams on YouTube because I get to
pause it yeah that's another one DVR functionality will be present I love
that feature because if I can like if I'm watching a live stream and I got to do something I got to take a call I want
to pause it thought you were going to say take a crap well I mean or that too
that too you can just take your phone with you but then it gets all like poo
particles all over it when you flush and stuff any we carry on but I just don't
see that I I don't want I want that
functionality and twitch so far has seemed like they have the player and
they're just like that's our player it
works and I mean YouTube also has down L
for everybody so you don't have to watch it at source mhm so cuz that's what Josh
grapples with when he does his live streams he's like yeah I'm going to stream at like half 720p so that
everyone can see it yep and that's that's incredibly frustrating so but
with that said it's not like twitch doesn't have Amazon money behind it at
this point it's not like if Amazon decides to go toe-to-toe with Google on
something they can't at least put up a pretty good fight so technology wise if
Amazon throws you know their Cloud servers at the at the problem and kind
of go okay yeah we'll just store everything then and we'll allow dving
and we'll do this and we'll do that and we'll we'll scale the video in real time
for everyone the big problem that I foresee for YouTube because
technologically it's going to make a lot of sense the big problem is relationship
management and this is on two fronts number one is with the pro gaming
leagues and the pro Gamers because that
is what twitch has done a great job of they've made them eles the orts network
and naturally the orts network becomes
the hangout for people who are into watching Competitive Gaming and when
you've got that Competitive Gaming audience you've got the hardc and if
you've got the hardc the streamers are going to want to be on that platform
streaming for the hardcore viewers huge
advantage and number two again where YouTube hasn't been great at
relationships in the past is with the content makers I've only recently really
gotten engaged with YouTube and started having conversations with them where
they like want to talk to me about the things that I that I need for the
platform and stuff like that um for
years I hadn't heard anything from anyone and YouTube is going to have to
figure that out if they want to entice the live streaming Gamers versus the
YouTuber Gamers they're going to have to do a good job of that and it's it's hard
bringing someone over from another platform now I will say this from
personal experience is extremely
expensive because what that person has
invested in terms of time and money into
building an audience on the platform that they're on has a huge value like
it's not easy to get everyone to follow you you're saying hey y' I'm going to
switch over to YouTube live now I'm going to you know deprecate my Twitch
account it's as if life was that easy
that doesn't happen and so I mean I mean okay okay look at the um look at when we
moved our videos to vessel we didn't we didn't even switch we just said okay
we're going to upload to both and vessel's getting them a week early now
MH and I can tell you guys the conversion rate even though it was free
and that's what this will be it'll be free streaming on YouTube versus free
streaming on Twitch even though it was
free it was really hard to get people to move over and then and now that it's
paid it's obviously much harder I don't really talk about it that much because I
understand you know people can just wait and they'll just watch the content for
free and that's fine and people have a a tendency to stick where it's we've seen
this from the music streaming services as well they'll put all their eggs in
one basket where their friends are at where the rest of the community are at
that's going to have a lot of value as a viewer as well not just as a content
creator so you're going to want to make sure that wherever you're moving to you
know you don't want to like move to YouTube and there's like two of your favorite streamers there yep cuz you
want to go to one website you want to see what's live at right now people want
a One-Stop shop absolutely and you know what is really funny is I hadn't thought
about this until we'd already started the show but I realized
that I stream on Twitch but my main
audience is actually on YouTube and I'm not really sure what to do because even
something as simple as if we miss a w
show or have a a a w show not at the
correctly scheduled time or if like uh
Luke or I miss a w show viewership falls
into the toilet MH the the following week people are just like H what the get
out of the Habit people are all about habit why do you guys tune in to W show
I I would Twitter Blitz the crap out of this one at linch on Twitter why do you
tune into W show is it just a habit is
it um for entertainment is it background
noise do you genuinely enjoy it do you not even really care but you just kind
of do it anyway do you watch with friends I would love to know because
like I said I didn't really understand the value of wow to advertisers in the
same way that I'm not much of a long format video Watcher so I just kind of
stumbled into this I was like yeah live seems to be taking off I should probably
do a live stream no really that was the entire thought process so that was why I
called it the live stream at the beginning and I was like oh this is kind
of like molded into something that people like let's brand it and then we
called it the land show which everyone hated and then now I'm sure if we tried to change it they'd hate that too they
would be up in arms I'm not changing it it's called The L show Forever Until I
change it I know the reason why I watch it is I like to have long form content
playing as background stuff while I'm doing other stuff so I have a bunch of
podcasts that I'll listen to and W show I necessarily don't watch the video I'll
just put it on audio and then I'll just have it while I'm doing stuff in the
house or whatever so oh wrong one
Twitter Twitter uh luren says my phone
reminds me so I just tune in um just do
it actually love the show I watch when show to tell your servers down okay
background noise of Friday evening and sometimes listening sometimes background
noise sometimes entertainment mostly just nothing to do oh
Jacob oh that's sad um I tune in because
you guys are enjoyable we know thank you Gorski it's
a regular Tech show that has entertainment value
simple yep for the background noise and it's a habit I'm actually seeing a fair
bit of background noise and fair bit of well it's my Friday night routine so
that's what I do watch it when I code
huge nerd good to get the news look at that because we're all drunk sorry are
you leaving see you tomorrow
morning RP headphone users I'm very sorry about that got a good send off I
just got bombarded again um background
noise to be honest which is really funny because there's a whole lot of people so
newest information background noise became a habit because I get a
notification telling me you're live L love it um so and none of this kind of
adds up to me in some ways because it's like okay so live is somehow worth more
to advertise there's lots of you are just using it as background noise anyway
I I I don't get it but there you there you go so so I'm kind of looking at it
going well if I change up my routine am I am I hurting myself and my viewers I
don't know I don't anyway thanks for the thanks for the Twitter comments guys I'm
almost done the stream today actually yeah um it's not much left the do
Microsoft oh just a couple rapid fire topics um this was posted by Mr M heads
on the Forum and uh the original article here is from slash dot I don't remember
the last time I was linked to slash dot
wow they exist
um let's here we go I'll go ahead and post this so they updated their their
their like malware definition to include
programs that hijack your search uh
functionality in your browser Without You explicitly telling them to so this
would actually classify the ask toolbar as malware in most
cases that is hilarious and should have happened 10 years ago yep thank you
Microsoft for treating that stuff like the garbage that it is appreciate that
also this is cool so original article here is from hexus these are pretty cool
these are freaking Smurf so uh yeah stay tuned for that
everyone's like rip headphones I'm sorry I'm sorry BL ber why did I wait what oh
sorry sorry sorry here it is all right so Samsung unveils it's
first mirror and transparent OLED
displays so I can't wait transparent is
is a pretty strong word they've achieved 40% light
transmission that's enough though that's translucent oh well they yes well well
okay you can clearly see the image on the other side pixels are off yeah it's
not scattering anything so yeah anyway
so they're saying that this is I think they're saying uh four times what anyone
else has done but I LG showed off 30%
transparency like earlier this year or something like that but with a much
smaller low res panel and LG was projecting 40% in
2017 so looks like Samsung's doing okay
so can I have these in my car uh okay so
that's one proposed sort of use for them another one is things like virtual
fitting rooms for the mirrors so the mirror I think is 75% reflectance not
too shabby I mean just to be just so you guys know 75% doesn't actually sound
that reflective but a mirror that you go
buy at like the store is not going to be
actually as reflective as you might think you have to get like pretty super special mirrors for things like um if
you don't have enough this was more of a concern in the old days before short
short throw projectors but uh people with home theater systems would have to
rear fire their projector have like a super expensive amazing balls mirror and
then have it reflect back forward in order to get the the picture big enough
um a standard commodity mirror is not
that reflective and if you mount it inside a wall or right up against the
wall you're not going to need it super duper crazy reflective yeah let me just
see if I can uh let me just see if I can find wire mirrors made of glass
something something something yeah I can't find it but I remember being
floored that this that this mirror was like hundreds and hundreds of dollars
that one of my co-workers bought at the time uh for his
projector early adopter taxs yeah all right well I don't know I
guess I guess that's about it um thanks to you guys for participating thanks to
Chris for joining us in Luke dead today thanks guys for having me and I guess
that's it that's all we'll see you guys again next week same bat Time same bat
channel for now bye guys
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