The WAN Show: New Windows 9 DRM Rumours & Potato Salad - July 11th, 2014
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2015-05-07
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19,063 words · ~95 min read
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and welcome to the WAN Show everyone the
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show where we talk about stuff that's going on in tech as well as whatever
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tickles our fancy and let me tell you when it comes to tickling
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things can get pretty fancy around here
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we've got some great topics for you this week uh Windows 9 is rumored to be
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getting a revamped drm scheme that
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a is kind of brutal and b kind of makes a lot more sense but more on that later
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also Windows 7 is going to be losing support a lot sooner than i think most
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people would like the uh you know just split support the just shy of 50 of
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people out there that are running Windows 7 right now
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might not be thrilled about this and then what else we got ad block plus is
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getting sued and not for necessarily what you'd think don't you dare tell
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them something else a real topic he was gonna say potato salad that is a real
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talk it's not funny it's it's stupid and
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it exploits the system i want to talk about what you just it doesn't exploit
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the system it exploits humanity i don't know what it exploits
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humans desire to be a part of something larger
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is that exploitation or is that just giving them what they what they need to
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be happy is giving people what they need exploitation
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why don't we just just you're getting something from them at the same time cue
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the intro we didn't even he said that as if they had it's like i didn't even save
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potato salad i had to do nothing for that you enjoyed the whole potato salad
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topic dude
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it's my vitamix i forgot to take it at lunch today
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he's very protective of his cables all right we've got a great show for you today guys uh you know it's kind of like
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it's kind of like we're in the driver's seat of what's going on here we've got a
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great chauffeur chauffeur
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not good no one should put us in the driver's seat
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no especially if that driver is driving
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to a comedy club to a comedy club because we would do really bad on stage
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it's not even a pun
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but get it see that's the point of the joke no
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the point of a joke can never be that the joke isn't funny but that was the
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whole that's the whole thing so we weren't funny so we couldn't go to
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the comments my jokes are funny i just i
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just laugh about pretending that they're not
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because um i don't think your jokes are that
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funny some of them are funny thank you
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i'm not sure i think inherently puns can't actually be that funny oh puns are
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a very high form of humor this is why you're not funny
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so anyway um why don't you pick my first time i like puns i'm i'm firing up the
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old twitch chat here so that i can like talk i already fired the twitch chat
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that's what shouts on myself you can't fire the twitch chat i love the twitch
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chat i defended you guys now tell me let's
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draw a poll now who whose side are you on twitch chat
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Linus is putting words in my mouth oh it's not the only thing i'm gonna put in
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your mouth
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speaking about putting things in people's mouths Windows 9 revamped activation drm they're getting rid of cd
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keys those like giant 16 character alphanumerical things that you used to
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have to use back in the old days before like steam and stuff i hate those things
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they're stupid have you noticed how many how a few
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times you actually have to use them now i had to enter one to install started i
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had to enter two because i had to install the game and then the uh star
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system uh uh supreme commander sorry oh supreme
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commander so i had to enter two like in a row i'm just like well i was like i
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don't want to do this i feel like the 90s
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i have these discs and these strings
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what is this anyway sorry carry on tell them about the rumored drms rumored drm schemes
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we're not even sure but basically what's gonna happen is you're gonna have to have a microsoft store account that's
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not the same as your microsoft account so i can't continue to actually just use
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my hotmail account that i've had since the dawn of time thanks for that anyway
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microsoft store account um and the images are gonna be served to you
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through the microsoft store so it's gonna be attached to your account very
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similar to how all these like gaming platforms are doing their stuff now your
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machine's detailed usually just your motherboard details are gonna be logged
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with microsoft and the software is still activated on your
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machine but if you're freaked out right now just
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like i did when i first read that it's not actually that big of a deal because
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if you go to install the os on another machine it'll just deactivate your old machine
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re-log your new motherboard details and you're good to go so it's not actually
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they thought about that which is surprising and cool
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um that's that's honestly basically it one
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of the big things that can be pushing for Windows 9 which we already knew is that they're going to be trying to make
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it for people that really liked Windows 7. this is going to be their big push
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they're bringing back the start menu supposed to be an extremely functional start menu uh they're gonna be talking
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about it in fall with early public and semi-public pre-retail versions of the
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os being released and circulated at that point in time so especially if you're
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like going to school for something in in the way of like
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something that's related to computer science at all you'll probably be
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getting versions of this really early or if you're in the industry at all you'll
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probably be getting a version of this early and then um
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yeah i don't know Windows is like one of the most pirated
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things and i guess like i i
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i get that they need to not be pirated as much and i can understand that they
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have to do something and as far as uh drm approaches go
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i mean as long as i don't know like i
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i used to really hate the subscription
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model but now that i'm on it for adobe
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creative cloud um now that i'm on it for office why is this mic so quiet
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having some trouble here sorry guys um now that i'm on it for office as well um
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i'm starting to kind of like it and the thing that i don't like now is being
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stuck with a single license of a piece of software
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that's completely non-transferable now i find that actually a lot more
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effective oh you mean like steam i mean like the i
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mean the more traditional Windows approach where particularly the oem licenses it's
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just it's like this it's stuck it you had to buy it once and then it's just
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but this kind of solves that problem because if you activate it on another
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machine it just deactivates the other machine automatically because it saves your which is actually kind of now with
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retail copies of Windows that was always the case but those were also very
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expensive but then i like what they've done with office having things like
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three packs for families for example because my whole
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they've talked apparently the concept can be adapted for three to five user
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family packages so that makes more sense to me like the big problem for me with
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Windows is that it's very difficult for
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me to swallow the you know 500 to 600 to
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however many hundred dollars upgrade every however long like i mean
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they're releasing a new os every couple of years now so for me to absorb that
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every couple of years to keep my entire house up to date is absurd be completely
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honest you can probably skip every second one because they're terrible well okay so let's say even every four years
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you should ignore eight you can ignore 10. don't worry about it
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it's fine but yeah i hear you
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so that's that's i guess that's i guess what makes me both um i i do things a
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little bit differently though i i usually a lot an amount of money that i can spend on semi-frivolous things right
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every like month you consider Windows to be a frivolous thing well because i must
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have a really exciting life oh yeah but i already have
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i'm kicking back this weekend i'm gonna go buy some Windows licenses you know
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what though if i did i would probably spend that weekend just kind of tinkering with it i'm picking up a six
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pack
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go to my house we can have an install party anyone who's been to an install party oh
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yeah probably probably not that many people in the audience but those those
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were a thing at one point in time uh ncix did a Windows 8
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launch party remember we had that thing yeah yeah yeah that was weird but no
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like straight up install parties they used to be really popular for Linux early in the day when it was really hard
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to figure out things you'd have like developers and stuff come down and
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everyone would help each other install on all their machines and like create custom drivers if they're having issues
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and stuff like that install parties they used to be able to install parties man
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all right anyway what were we even talking about so i guess okay what's
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your thought yay or nay if it okay let's let's put up let's put out a
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hypothetical the way that it's implemented and then i'll let you know
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if there's no issues and this is how it's implemented yes
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so basically it's your online account i mean i'd love for them to just do it
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through steam yeah if there's a way to do that like they won't but let's say it basically
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works exactly like steam so you log into your account you download your iso and
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then you assign the license according to whatever the serial number of your motherboard or whatever else and then
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basically the way it works is you buy a license and then you can upgrade your
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license to like a three pack or a five pack or something like that and you can
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manage all of your machines within this one account if they do it really well
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it's really streamlined and there's no with me switching between machines because my motherboard and
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whatever the prick that i was scared about at the beginning which yes apparently in this they've dealt with
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that yeah if there's none of that then i'm cool with it okay because honestly
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Windows has pirated way too much and if it is very streamlined and very
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easy for me i'm okay with it okay but it has to not
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be because the biggest problem right now is i i honestly know people that pirate
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Windows only because it's extremely hard
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to maintain your Windows copy if you do a lot of pc upgrades i mean that's the
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reason that i mean a lot of people ask why on our test bench machines it always
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says this copy is not genuine in the bottom corner it's not because they're
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pirated in fact if they were pirated they wouldn't say that yeah
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the reason that most of the test bench machines say that is because as soon as
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you swap hardware that message starts popping up unless it's like my GPU test
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bench because it won't freak out when you change gpus and that test bench has been the same for a really long time so
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like certain test benches won't say that but if you see that sometimes that's why and sometimes it's like they'll look for
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okay you can swap the GPU as many times as you want but as soon as you change the RAM and the GPU
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now it's going to freak out or something i i don't think anyone quite knows
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exactly how the system works but the point is that when it's a bench that
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we're swapping things in and out of all the time they inevitably
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do that and it doesn't affect any of the benchmark results anyway so what are we
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going to do call them up every time no that's ridiculous sometimes but just
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like yeah no so if it actually worked really
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streamlined like if every time i changed something it would just be like oh you have too
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many machines activated and i could just be like deactivate this one and it was
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like okay perfect done that would be sweet so as much as this is somewhat
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good news i still have to wonder if paid os has a place in the modern world with
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apple giving it away uh google giving it away if it becomes extremely difficult
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to actually pirate Windows that could help Linux a lot
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yeah all right so we have the results from
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the straw poll oh at least we would if my capture was
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working that's gonna be inconvenient today i can't believe i didn't check
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this before we started streaming that is extremely unfortunate get it extremely
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unfortunate i'm just going to go check and make sure that yeah she don't get
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that at all at all but every once in a while it comes out and then that's bad
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why is extremely unfortunate funny and i don't have wait what
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stream because we're streaming oh see it's funny it's a pun
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you wouldn't understand apparently all right so um
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i wanted to show them the results of that but
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you know what but i'm going to let you do the next topic and i'm just going to go get the live gamer portable because
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it actually works unlike these black magic cards do you want to hear about something that's probably going to suck
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uh really you think so yeah
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oh come on okay so this was originally posted on the forum by uh blood with ice
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and connect for Windows i i see it i see
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it i i know connect for Windows v2 is
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finally coming now i remember how laughable it was um back when they were
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showing off connect for for pc and they
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were showing off some of the you know medical applications for example were
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you there at the microsoft booth at computex i mean
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i saw some stuff about it i wasn't there though okay like it was it was super
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cool so the kind you that you could just make uh you could make a 3d model of
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something just by putting it on a rotating platform in front of a kinect
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but obviously the the resolution is just not good enough because it's a connect
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v1 and it's and it's stupid so the amount of disappoint that i had when
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xbox one launched and microsoft was like
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no connect on pc don't worry about it
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yay because i like that to me that was the only good thing that could possibly
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come out of connect v2 was putting it on the pc and letting developers usb cable
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and it should have just worked yes it should have there is no reason why connect shouldn't just connect with a
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usb cable not at all there's a lot of things like that actually yeah
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but okay so it's gonna be it's gonna be 200 bucks most likely full 1080p
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released july 15th uh the problem that i see with it is that it's not shipping
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with um its Windows sdk two and they have no price for that right
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now so if it's not coming with that bundled in you're not gonna see massive
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adoption for it and i don't see a lot of really big games building in support for
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connect sorry
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i don't know i don't really it doesn't make a ton of
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sense in my opinion i can see some people doing it the 200 bucks isn't
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too bad but something to think about is that the leap motion which has way more
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support right now and is cheaper also exists and not all that many people
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are kind of jumping all over the leap motion and the connect one when it worked on pc
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didn't exactly get a huge amount of adoption most of stuff you're seeing
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with connect one was hacker type people making their own little applications
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that they didn't even necessarily share and then that was almost it
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so i don't know i don't know if the adoption for this is gonna be super huge
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we see tons of stuff coming out right now which is gonna take a lot of custom
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work to work into people's games and stuff and i i don't see people being able to
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cater to all of them there's there's that toby thing that steel series is
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working on for eye tracking there's oculus there's control vr there's
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connect there's leap motion there's so many different things
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and it's way too saturated and as a game developer sitting down are you actually
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going to pick connect as one of the things that you're going to really work on i guess for me the thing is that i
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don't even really see it as as necessarily a gaming play i think it's
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interesting in in much more interesting in things outside of gaming yeah to be
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honest i see it much more interesting in terms of uh like what you're talking
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about 3d scanning yeah yeah 3d printers are a huge deal 3d scanning and 3d
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printing with something higher res than connect one that's like i think that
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could be really cool freaking i don't see this being a huge thing in terms of
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gaming that's why i was yeah and i mean things like i mean for even if the
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software development kit is somewhat expensive um if you can with 200
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hardware if all of a sudden you can do really great uh motion capture for
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example that's that's awesome that's really cool so that's the kind of thing
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like again i don't expect this to make a huge difference to
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you know the average joe immediately but i still i'm glad they're finally doing
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it i wish they would have done it right away and that's sort of what i have to say about that so whose side are you on
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potato salad is the big winner didn't we agree with each other on this on what on
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this no i didn't agree that they should be on
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your side and potato salad above me why would i agree on that but no weren't we
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on the same side about what this wasn't this them no i just asked them whose
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side they were on but in general no it was nothing to do with microsoft it was
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just in general so basically in the popularity contest of me versus you
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direct potato salad is more popular than either but i wanted to bring up the
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potato salad topic so that just gets added to my score
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all right yeah that's how it works that's so weird do you even know
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anything about math
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all right so adblock plus
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adblock is being sued by some germans or
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something the point is they're being sued the original poster on the forum
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was victorious secret and the original source is over at neowind.net so we're
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going to go ahead and there's the original article so we all know what ad
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block does adblock lets you block those
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pesky ads oh my god it's in the name heaven forbid a content creator actually
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get paid for doing the work that they did talking to people today about how
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five gallon buckets makes more money than line detectives yeah that kind of
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blew their brain five gallon buckets calm more profitable than lightest tips
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anyway the point is that that's how content creators get paid and blocking
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ads is basically a scummy thing to do in the first place so
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should it surprise us that this company that exists for the so that that's sole
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product is all about avoiding other having other having people
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avoid having someone else get paid um
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turns out that they're just potentially allegedly kind of scummy so the word on
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the street right now and the reason that they're being sued is not necessarily
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just because some company is butt hurt that they're not getting paid because
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adblock is allowing users to circumvent their ads no what they're actually being
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accused of is that as having an illegal
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business model so it was recently reported that google has been paying
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money in order to allow its ads to pass
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through adblock plus so that is that is some dirty
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dirty stuff that is that is that is super gross
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people are like yeah that block isn't illegal as far as i know you know it's
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not no it's not the but what but what is like some scary mafia tactics
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is protection money man letting google play through and that is basically what
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we're talking about that we're talking ad block turning their business model if
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this is true into basically a way of
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double dipping charging add creators double in order to
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get people to actually see the ads i mean
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wow it's kind of awesome but awesome in a
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terrible way like horrible
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and i can't wait till this becomes if it if the german guys don't win if this
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becomes a much bigger thing you can just go to adblock site and be like yeah i
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want you to unblock this whole website like if we could like pay to get line
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detectives unblocked that would be hilarious
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because that would become really widespread and then adblock would be useless
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you know what it's a lot of the time it's the you know internet liberation
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whatever blah blah blah the internet should be free everything should be free
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that are that are that are trumpeting the merits of adblock and then you look
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at what ad lock's doing and this is no less dirty than trying to circumvent
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something like net neutrality it is equally dirty creating tiered
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delivery systems on the internet is wrong period so guys then you're gonna
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have to be able to afford to make money on the internet you're gonna have to be
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able to afford to pay the content
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creator to to advertise and you're going to have to afford to pay the ad block
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mafia to allow your ad through someone just said on the twitch chat ad
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block is great i'd never internet again without it and
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as an ad block user you should hold them
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accountable for this in some way so if you guys are going to go and be
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crusaders about whatever it is you be crusaders about this is one of them you
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got to also attack adblock for what they're doing i'm not even i'm not even
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saying right now do i personally want people to use adblock no i'm a content creator my
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survival is uh ads so i like people to
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watch ads it's good i appreciate when they watch and listen to our sponsors
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and all that but am i telling you guys right now go and uninstall your ad block
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because they're bad people no i'm saying do something because
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this voice your opinion is a bad people thing to do at least let them know that
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you that that's not okay and you're not gonna like if you if you attack adblock
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for this they're not gonna shut down and it's it's one thing if adblock is
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completely blocking ads and it's another thing if they're not
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these are both legal but the accusation right now is that
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allowing the ones that they get paid to allow is not legal
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because that's not what the end user signed up
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for that's certainly not what the ad server or the content creator had in
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mind they're basically just playing around with it on in their own little
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sandbox over there speaking of sandboxes potato salad
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kickstarter we're flying through topics really is
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just the ultimate playground right now isn't it one thing i got to drop first
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is that we're at about forty seven thousand dollars now we were at seventy
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thousand dollars before so a lot of people have pulled back i shouldn't say we because it wasn't us this is not our
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idea either of us nope so everyone's pretty much heard about it at
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this point it's some guy posted on kickstarter he's making potato salad the
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perks are just stuff like getting better mayonnaise from the natural food section
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calling a chef to get a better recipe just
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stuff like that and it's
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i i don't even know what else i have super stupid there's a whole bunch of
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different stretch goals too like he was just talking about like at three
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thousand dollars which he's massively passed and he's not putting any more
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stretch goals who's being exploited here because i feel like someone must be
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i don't know i mean if people voluntarily give their money because
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they think it's funny i mean
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my favorite thing too is like the hat and the t-shirt which they're like yeah
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you get a hat or a t-shirt but there's no graphics though so you have no idea what it's going to be
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yeah yeah you literally just take a salad themed hat helvetica
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letters that say potato salad yeah yeah and i mean you know what if i was a
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backer of this that would probably be what i would want it would be whatever
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goofy thing that the internet thinks is funny and
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and that would be it i mean so i get a salad with like a cat wrapped around the
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bowl and rainbows you know i
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i don't know an ea logo on the back i want to make a comparison to gambling
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here because gambling when you talk to
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gamblers like there's the addicts and then there's the people who gamble for
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fun and they'll tell you look it's not about winning it's about i paid 200
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and i had 200 worth of entertainment
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and if they win then great and if they lose then they paid for entertainment
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and that's what it is so is this is it wrong and is it stupid if people
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are genuinely ten dollars worth of entertainmented
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by giving ten dollars to this and did they get their money's worth
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then some of the stuff i really like is and like i'm gonna tie into what you
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just said in a moment but some of the stuff i really just like is the the
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three dollar tier where you get a bite of potato salad
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he sold that to a thousand people
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he's gotta make a lot of potato salad yeah a thousand bites of potatoes but i
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guess that does kind of tie in so if you if you donated three dollars
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is it worth it so that one day you'll get potato salad in the mail
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and you can instagram it or tweet it to your friends or post it on facebook or
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whatever and be like oh well look i just got potato salad in the mail
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because this kickstarter thing that i backed is that worth the three dollars maybe i mean it's funny because we we
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have such different standards for different entertainment media
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and in terms of how much we're willing to pay like for some reason we're okay
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paying you know but i mean by the time you take a lady friend with you buy a
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popcorn buy a drink 20 well i was gonna say like 25 30 bucks
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i don't know what kind of popcorn you're buying but dudes two popcorns and two
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drinks is like 25. you bought her popcorn
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and you didn't bring your own drink i thought you're gonna say youtube i
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thought you're gonna say and you didn't bring me
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maybe that was where i was going with it next actually me i always make sure that
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we eat before we go because i'm never buying that stupid crap it's way too
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expensive okay well let's say you only buy tickets let's say you're a complete
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cheapskate like the two men in this room
26:17
and you still paid like 25 bucks to go and be entertained for an hour and a
26:21
half and then you get people upset over
26:25
a play time of six hours for a triple a game
26:28
that they paid 60 for it's like well hold on a second and i'm not saying some
26:33
people are upset when it's like 10 15 hours and i'm not saying you're wrong i
26:37
i was i was pretty upset about uh episode five of wolf among us i was like
26:42
yeah that was an hour of play time and like a third of it spoiler alert
26:48
and like a third of it is stupid fight scenes that aren't even as good as the
26:52
ones in the previous games and this like weird chase and then the rest of it is
26:57
the most predictable dialogue
27:00
crap ever i was so disappointed like
27:04
episodes one and two awesome and then
27:07
it's like they got the game of thrones franchise and they're like okay we need
27:11
to like pinch out this wolf among us thing as fast as we can so that we can
27:16
make all the money making game of thrones games which is probably i'm not
27:21
not accusing anyone of anything but there you go anyways well another thing
27:24
i want to bring up is what are we even talking about anymore potato salad but
27:27
another thing i want to bring up is that the amount of tears where he has to say
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thank you during making the potato salad
27:34
he has to say thank you to like 4 000 something people
27:38
like the first tier you get it for a dollar so 1745 people back that the
27:42
second tier you get it 1058 people back that the third tier you get it 1020
27:47
people back that i think it's probably gonna go through the whole thing do you
27:51
think he's bitten off more than he can chew
27:56
do you bite off a piece of potato salad
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you have to make like a potato salad bar you could
28:03
you know what's funny fancy restaurants man i swear the less prepared the food
28:08
is the more expensive the less prepared and the more stacked
28:12
think about it the less fancy the restaurant is the more flat your plate is that when you go to a fancy
28:16
restaurant they just put everything in a pile here like these are these are these are
28:20
basically just the stupidest thing ever i went to a restaurant once and like it
28:25
was someone else's treat i never eat at places like this
28:29
and uh i was just like how do i eat this
28:33
this is called a wedge salad i was like what the hell is this that's so stupid
28:37
basically they just quarter a thing of iceberg lettuce it's not even expensive
28:41
lettuce iceberg lettuce like they're like what 60 cents ahead and then they
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put like bacon and stuff on it and it's like yeah we prepared this and the the
28:51
guy's like oh yeah you use a fork and a knife i'm like what so i and it was like
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25 for the salad or something like that and i'm like so what i pay more and they
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prepare it less so in my mind
29:04
if he made the fanciest potato salad ever it would actually be whole potatoes
29:12
a potato that you like mashed an egg into
29:16
it's like it should be drizzled over the top how to it's like how to basic potato
29:19
salad edition just like put a whole bunch of potatoes throw a whole bunch of
29:23
potatoes into a bowl and then take a whole thing of eggs and just throw it
29:26
into the bowl and be like there here's your freaking potato salad
29:30
green onions are extra how too basic the restaurant
29:35
would be a scary place to eat but there's so many people that would go
29:39
to it no problem i'd almost want to go i uh did i tell
29:44
you about my restaurant concept that i had a little while ago no okay i had an
29:49
idea that i actually think is amazing so um theme kind of themed fun restaurants
29:54
are a bit of a thing sorry i'm gonna introduce you real quick he quite literally has to say thank you to all
29:59
580 people every single tier has that included and given how many people have
30:03
names that are impossible to pronounce that's going to be a challenge it is anyway there's uh there's one called
30:07
what is it called dark table yes dark table where the the the entire
30:11
restaurant is completely blacked out the unfortunate thing about dark table in
30:15
vancouver is that the entry door doesn't
30:18
have like a spacing at the beginning like a spaceship so when you open up the
30:23
door you get light and the bathroom is the same way and dark tables in other
30:27
cities there's usually some torque some type of like dark room in between the
30:31
dining area and a dark room in between the bathroom okay so anyway so dark
30:34
table it's completely blacked out inside and it's supposed to be kind of like
30:38
having the experience of being blind all the waiters and waitresses are blind the
30:42
cooks are not okay so so like dark table
30:45
is kind of cool and i was like okay so if people are into this whole like
30:49
interesting dining experience thing i was i was thinking
30:53
of having there should be a restaurant where all the food is incredibly awkward and
30:58
difficult to eat so i thought that should be hilarious it
31:02
would be the ultimate icebreaker first date or like double date place to go so
31:08
you could have you could have dishes like single noodle spaghetti
31:12
where the entire thing is one noodle and you don't give them a spoon or a knife
31:16
so basically you just have to like
31:21
do it like the chop it off with your teeth yeah so the idea is just that if
31:24
everyone looks like an idiot then no one has to worry about oh i spilled a little
31:29
bit or i have something dripping down my elbows like like you could have
31:32
sandwiches with just like basically you know disgusting amounts of of sauce
31:38
intentionally on one side oh yeah from this so it will go out and then it will
31:41
so it'll just drip down your elbows just stuff like that where you want things to
31:45
still be delicious but they would be intentionally socially awkward to eat
31:50
and like the rules would be whatever utensils we
31:53
bring you that's all you can use to eat it they only they only give you uh like
31:57
no utensils at all so they don't give you any and it's sushi that's way too big to fit in your mouth yeah like stuff
32:02
like that right yeah yeah so you'd have to like destroy it or mash it in your
32:05
mouth yes see that kind of thing i think that would be a lot of fun that would
32:09
actually probably be someone needs to someone needs to have that restaurant
32:13
maybe this potato salad guy should start that restaurant with his like
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forty seven thousand dollars that's not even uh yeah i guess that's a lot of
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money not enough to start a restaurant that's what i meant i meant that in the
32:24
context of not enough to start a restaurant not like i am so i am so
32:28
loaded that forty thousand dollars is not a lot of money it is going to be interesting though because with that
32:32
forty seven thousand dollars he has to he has to make a recipe book for potato
32:36
salad he has to ship out thousands and thousands of bites of
32:40
potato salad like a lot of them um he
32:44
has to all the t-shirts video all the t-shirts
32:48
all the hats i think there might even be more stuff there's a lot of shipping that's gonna be in here he's shipping
32:52
out thousands and thousands of things so he's probably not gonna be able to do it by himself he's probably gonna have to
32:57
get people to help him like he's gonna come out with a ton of money
33:01
probably maybe not even that much but it's not gonna be forty seven thousand dollars
33:05
i could easily see him spending at least 20 grand
33:09
doing all this stuff i don't know i just don't see the appeal
33:17
i think it's funny but i don't think it's technically funny i don't know
33:21
there's no such thing as technically funny humor is not technical
33:25
but you can have a terrible sense of humor
33:28
um okay so speaking of not a lot of money uh samsung's factory was robbed at
33:33
gunpoint 36 million in smartphones tablets and
33:39
laptops stolen so it was a group of about 20 armed men uh this happened
33:44
earlier this week the speculation right now is that there
33:48
was probably someone on the inside involved in pulling off this heist but
33:54
basically they had some of the employees subdued at gunpoint they had others just
33:59
kind of going about their days working not even aware of what was going on favorite part while some employees were
34:03
held hostage during the site the report claims that the majority of others just
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continued working
34:09
it's just like what
34:13
you're like i can't run away because they'll shoot me
34:16
and if i stop working who knows my job could be in jeopardy
34:22
so i just might as well keep on working so um
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yeah i mean i would i have you know the funny like i i don't mean for this to
34:30
come across the wrong way but i just don't get it what would you even do with
34:35
that many smartphones how would you even unload that many smartphones without
34:39
getting caught if you know people that own stores or whatever
34:43
right but i mean we're talking smartphones we're talking things with
34:47
with digital serial numbers that are going to be reported to
34:51
a carrier at some point like these are things that are pretty difficult
34:55
to cover up they're very trackable i mean it's one of those things where i don't
34:59
know you guys ever watched numbers you know you go and you on a map you kind of
35:04
go okay well here's where they're being activated
35:08
they're probably coming from somewhere in here like this is this is legitimately a way that you could track
35:12
something like this so unless they have an extremely diverse distribution
35:17
network all full of people who aren't going to breathe a word
35:20
how do you not get caught doing something like this move i guess
35:26
like you might be able to find the store but then maybe the store doesn't know
35:31
maybe you go to a distributor but the issue is that someone knows someone
35:35
knows and i don't know what the laws are like in brazil but here
35:39
selling stolen goods even if i didn't know is still illegal it's still a big
35:43
deal yeah so i don't know i have no idea what the
35:47
laws are like in brazil but i can't imagine this would be the hardest thing
35:50
to track especially if they sold that much money worth of stuff they must have
35:54
been in there for so long oh yeah they were loading trucks and trucks yeah yeah
35:58
exactly so the amount of chance that you left some type of dna evidence behind
36:03
the amount of chance that some camera got you at some point in time well the
36:06
good news is they didn't kill or hurt anyone because if they had then it
36:10
becomes i mean it's still whatever is
36:13
bigger than grand theft but all of a sudden it becomes it becomes murder yeah
36:18
um yeah geez i don't know people are saying
36:21
there's a lot of gold and smartphones i really think that there are there are
36:25
better ways to get that much gold with 20 armed people than breaking into a
36:30
smartphone factory and taking forward probably not what
36:35
they're going for i mean i i gave i give you guys props like thank
36:40
you for the good idea but i really don't think that's it like if i was gonna
36:44
coordinate a heist like this and i wanted gold i would probably rob a
36:50
jewelry distribution hub not an electronics one and those exist just
36:55
throwing that out there probably hard to find probably harder to
36:59
find than like samsung's distribution hub but if you
37:02
are bringing along 20 people armed with
37:05
truck drivers and everything i don't know you could probably find it
37:09
you could probably figure it out yeah all right so speaking of smartphones the
37:13
original poster for this on the forum was adam isaac lang and the original
37:19
article is from venturebeat and it's all about a vast recovering data off of cell
37:25
phones that they bought on ebay this is something that i guess we should have
37:30
seen coming um
37:34
but i had expected to be a little bit more difficult and a little bit less
37:39
effective than it turns out that it was because the thing about flash based
37:43
storage is that unlike magnetic based
37:46
storage it's actually reshuffling itself in the background quite a bit so
37:50
magnetic-based storage the way that file recovery works is when you delete
37:54
something it only deletes the references to where the files are it doesn't
37:58
actually delete the entire file because that's very time consuming and magnetic
38:01
storage is slow with an SSD particularly
38:04
a trim enabled one it actually does a bit more of a thorough job it does it's
38:10
going to have to delete the references the pointers to where the files are but
38:14
then between sort of cleaning up the drive in order to optimize it for better
38:19
performance and in both in terms of trim
38:22
and in terms of idle garbage collection um a lot of data should in theory be
38:27
lost and scrambled around because unlike a hard drive where you're gonna write a
38:32
file as continuously as possible with an SSD things get scattered around all over
38:37
the place so even though you might only actually delete let's say five percent
38:42
of a file as you are reshuffling things around there's still a good chance that
38:47
you would corrupt especially certain file types that aren't as resilient to
38:51
uh to to partial losses of their data so
38:55
i didn't expect this to work as well as it did but according to the report from
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avast um they were able to get 40 000 photos
39:04
750 emails 250 names and addresses and
39:07
one loan application why do you have your loan application on
39:12
your phone don't do that
39:15
but in in general i mean part of the the whole thing there is they're like okay
39:19
look you should probably use our software and do a proper secure wipe
39:22
where you're actually overwriting things so it's it's a bit of a publicity stunt
39:26
more than anything else but the fact that
39:30
um what was it i forget what the numbers were it's not
39:34
it's not in our notes but only a very small fraction of the phones had any
39:38
security software oh yeah previously installed on them whatsoever so avast's
39:43
point and their app is free so it's not like they're actually trying to sell you
39:47
something for five bucks or whatever a vast's point is yo guys
39:51
please be aware of this your phone is like the least secure thing ever uh oh
39:57
apparently it was to boost sales of its secure wipe antivirus program for thirty
40:00
dollars a year uh okay when i was
40:04
reading the article earlier i i think they have one security app that is free
40:08
okay there you go anyway there are free apps though that can do a proper secure
40:13
race of your phone so just something to be aware of even if you don't want to
40:16
give a vast your money for it okay a little bit confused there
40:22
my bad the security prices packages range with the most costing about 30
40:26
dollars while avas is free thank you i've asked this free i knew it
40:31
all right so uh here here was kind of a scandal
40:35
this week this was interesting so the ftc is oh yeah suing t-mobile or finding
40:42
them or whatever it is they're doing to them basically they want money from them
40:45
for knowingly adding bogus charges to
40:48
the bills of their customers uh this was originally posted on the forum by rayu
40:53
kun and there have actually been so quite a
40:57
few updates his post was really good by the way as it's gone as it's gone along
41:02
here so pretty much t-mobile fired back almost
41:07
immediately saying you know hey well
41:10
look we don't engage in this it was an industry
41:14
problem um we don't understand why we're being
41:17
gone after because we're about the most consumer-friendly
41:21
mobile carrier ever
41:25
their ceo called the claims unfounded and without merit and we believe that
41:30
customers should pay only for what they want and what they sign up for
41:34
and uh yeah so ft the ftc says that the services that
41:39
they were charging for in question had refund request rates of up to 40 percent
41:44
in a single month and t-mobile is allegedly collecting as much as 40
41:48
percent of the revenue generated from these services so so i'm interested to
41:52
see how this pla plays out services being like flirting tips and horoscope
41:57
and celebrity crap and stupid things like that which no one should ever yeah
42:02
so so basically it's it these are premium sms services
42:06
that they are that they're commonly charging for so i didn't even know this still existed
42:10
i didn't know that either in fact i don't even know why i still get sms
42:14
messages from my carrier with the new legislation in canada that
42:18
forbids spam even mailing lists that i'm signed up
42:22
for have told me they can't continue to email me unless i specifically authorize
42:27
them to do it is is sms not covered by this i actually
42:31
haven't seen it that's more annoying than email because i got a uh i got an
42:35
upgrade to the galaxy s4 mini for only this much text the other day and it
42:40
carries something like a 10 million dollar fine 1 million or 10 million or
42:43
something stupid annoying tell us text messages yeah well the the issue is that
42:47
i'm close to the end of my contract so my contract is ended so they just spam
42:52
me constantly it's like wow i'm at a time in my in my bi in my cycle here
42:58
when i can leave you at any time seems like a good opportunity to piss me off
43:02
doesn't it yeah it's what goes through carriers heads but you know what the
43:05
scary thing is is if it didn't work they wouldn't do it yep i'm sure it works
43:10
because you're not even i know a lot of people that don't even realize their
43:14
contract actually ends they're like oh i can get this phone for this much sure
43:17
they going to get that phone and they're contracted again
43:21
well there you go if you don't even really think about when your period ends you don't really think about all those
43:25
different things that did not come out right
43:30
i'm in your contract period oh
43:33
no okay anyways
43:37
i guess that's a thing i saw the picture i'm going to go with
43:42
in terms of carriers
43:45
can we move on now nano pixels so this was originally
43:50
posted on the forum by dll and the original article is on
43:55
extreme tech so we're talking resolutions 150
44:00
times higher nano pixels so uh blah blah et cetera et
44:06
cetera researchers angle created nanopixels that measure just 300 by 300
44:10
nanometers so comparing this to a modern smartphone with a 400 pixel per inch
44:15
display we're talking yes 150 times more
44:20
now obviously uh we could create extremely
44:24
high resolution displays with this technology but there um there are some
44:29
other complications so for example we'd have to figure out you know what kind of
44:34
a display interface is going to be able to handle uh you know 1000
44:40
uh or 198 000 by 1200
44:44
or by 120 000 is that the resolution
44:47
that it does or can you do much lower it can just do up to that because i'm
44:51
pretty sure it can just do up to that yeah no it would be it would be up to
44:54
that depending on you don't have to push it that hard no i think they're just
44:58
they're taking like probably a five inch phone screen size and going well if we
45:02
can do by 1920x1200 then we could do this this potential
45:06
density we can do this yeah because i don't i don't actually see anyone really
45:09
actually pushing that resolution because it's ridiculous so so we'd have to
45:13
figure out how to even drive resolutions like that with we'd have to catch up in
45:18
terms of processing power we'd have to catch up in terms of display interfaces i mean maybe light based interfaces
45:22
could take us you know the next step forward but i guess my whole thing here
45:28
is for most stuff it's probably a moot
45:33
point for tvs irrelevant for
45:37
computers irrelevant and even for smartphones i would say irrelevant i i
45:43
have a really hard time telling the difference between the 2560 by 1440
45:47
display on the g3 versus the 1080p display on the one m8 one thing just not
45:52
that different one thing i was thinking about is sometimes it becomes actually more expensive to manufacture older
45:57
technology so if just everything starts moving towards this maybe it becomes
46:00
cheaper and they're not even aiming for that resolution they just aim for a way
46:04
lower resolution but just use this technology so maybe it comes to tvs they
46:07
don't need it but maybe it just i mean if the if the tech gets used for other
46:11
things like if it gets used for better passive 3d if it gets used for things
46:16
like adding pixels with more colors so
46:19
that we can like you look at um oh shoot who is it who does the the
46:24
fourth yellow pixel in their tvs is it sharp i think so i think it's sharp
46:28
anyway you you look at you look at stuff like that and what that kind of tech can
46:32
do to push things forward i can see it being used there but in larger larger
46:37
form factor devices i don't think it's that relevant the place that i really
46:40
see this being used though is um head
46:43
mounted displays wearables and then things like micro projectors so we've
46:48
seen some interesting stuff done with holograms so what's that what is it like
46:52
miku or what's that what's that japanese pop star character with the green hair
46:56
yeah i don't i don't i don't know the name but i know what you're talking about yeah yeah anyway uh you know i
46:59
feel like i feel like we should probably they've also done hologram for tupac though yeah yeah exactly so um miku
47:05
singer miku virtual virtual singer here we go
47:09
uh hatsune miku there we go the world's virtual diva anyway the point is they've
47:14
done concerts with her as uh as a
47:17
hologram much like they did that thing with tupac and i would see very very
47:22
tiny displays like this as an interesting way to
47:27
push that technology forward so if you wanted something like a wrist mounted
47:30
holographic projector thing we'd be talking extremely small
47:35
we'd be talking extremely small optics and we'd be looking for ways to miniaturize things as much as we
47:38
possibly could so that's where that's where i'm really excited to see this
47:43
technology going but i see a lot of the comments on this article they're like oh
47:47
we could have a 4k smartwatch i'm just like yeah we don't
47:50
need that who gives a crap at all
47:57
i mean if they could if they can make them transparent and we could have really neat stackable displays yes so
48:02
that we had a transparent watch that had display elements at every level and
48:08
like just i don't know there's like the thing i was talking about with the real watch yes with the digital
48:13
watch screen on top which can fade so you can see the real watch under it
48:17
cause i know a lot of people that are just like i want a mechanical watch because i like mechanical watches
48:22
i'm like yeah well there's other things that could be helpful so maybe if the screen illuminates when you get a
48:27
notification and then when there's no notifications it fades away and you have your nice mechanical watch that could be
48:31
pretty cool i got my wife going on the pebble did you yeah don't you like it uh
48:35
she she really likes it and she's um so
48:38
so a couple things number one is at her work they can't carry their phones with
48:42
them um she's in a pharmacy it's unprofessional
48:46
so what it's kind of cheating what having
48:49
your pebble if you can't get your phone with you at work it's just a watch man
48:53
so the point is she can leave her phone in her bag and she's not breaking any
48:58
rules but if something urgent comes through like i'm like where's the
49:02
where's the child i need to go retrieve him
49:06
and i don't know where to go because these kinds of things happen i don't
49:09
have to call i don't have to call and interrupt the entire pharmacy
49:13
i can just text and then
49:16
she can go slip off the screen she has a moment or whatever and then the other
49:20
time it's going to be really useful is she's going on maternity leave um
49:24
actually starting today she's on uh short-term disability because of she's
49:28
got like the these shooting pains and she can't stand all day so she's on
49:33
short-term disability until her maternity leave starts and a lot of the
49:36
time when you're taking care of a baby so once she's on her mat leave um
49:41
you're just kind of all over the place dealing with the baby you're not
49:44
necessarily keeping track of your phone so she has a watch on her strap
49:47
something to yourself it's a waiter then it's uh it's easier
49:50
for me to get in touch with her because i had a really hard time getting in touch with her last time she was on
49:54
maternity leave for those of you who don't know um my babies do
49:58
uh in about three weeks so that's that's what's up as far as all
50:03
that is concerned someone said i'm gonna break this laptop
50:06
i have no idea what they're talking about and another person said that once the 4k watch shows up you're going to be
50:10
super excited and i think you're wrong you're totally wrong how many cares did
50:15
i give about the g3 and it's high resolution screen go ahead
50:19
watch the review that's how many cares i will give about
50:23
the 4k watch boom i've had a few more people watch my 792
50:26
thing oh yeah everyone likes it so far
50:29
speaking of which you know what let's let's let's go let's go hate on
50:33
microsoft for a little sure so let's start with microsoft pulling Windows 7
50:36
support in six months this was originally posted by dietrich w on the
50:40
forum and the article here is from business insider it's not it's uh yeah well
50:46
okay it's not really pulling support i still call it i still call on
50:51
this because we're not gonna get directx 12. no which is yes
50:56
so i'm not disagreeing with you on that point at all okay it's just not so we're on the same page yes you just you can't
51:01
properly say that they're pulling support because they're not
51:04
not supporting directx 12 is especially if they're out of one side of
51:09
their mouth they're going to say yeah we care about the pieces
51:13
yeah we do this except we're going to like okay
51:18
it's been shown time and time again the way to support gaming is to have a large
51:24
platform of installed users for a game developer to target
51:29
that is how you support gaming you do not support gaming by forcing people to
51:34
buy a new os on hardware that would otherwise be fully capable of it in
51:39
order to take advantage of a new feature that is how you get absolutely no one to
51:43
give a about your new feature that's what you achieve by doing that
51:47
so that's why i'm mad about this from a gaming perspective but anyway they are
51:51
continuing to provide security updates until 2020 january 14 2020 or something
51:56
like that so yay for business also business customers who pay for extended
52:01
support can continue to get general updates which to me is like i get it
52:07
i understand why the business model works that way but i'm still upset that
52:12
you're developing all this stuff and then you're just not giving it to us not
52:15
giving it i wouldn't be surprised at all if someone creates some sort of module
52:19
where you can get those updates
52:22
i don't know anyway not that that would even be legal or right or anything i'm
52:26
just saying it might exist uh i think timing for different things is fairly
52:30
interesting because we just read something about Windows 9 which is where they said first half of 2015 probably
52:35
not as soon as january 13th
52:38
yeah so they're going to drop performance support for it and let you
52:41
squirm for a little while and then release Windows
52:44
9. i bet you that's what's gonna happen because they're trying to be like yeah
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we're trying to capture Windows 7 users so they're trying to chop you off and
52:51
then give you an alternative that you actually like instead of Windows 8 which
52:54
is trash so there's that well let's not be fair
52:58
let's not call it trash let's call it
53:02
refined garbage not well that's
53:05
that's not better compact waste it's not
53:08
waste i mean there are good things about it you know there are good things final
53:11
transfer and the the
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nothing else there must be something else it's good
53:18
at performing it performs well i hate that arrow's gone yeah i hate that flat
53:23
i think it's ugly i think it's Windows 7 is beautiful yeah it really is um even
53:28
the start button is like dude why is the whole thing white
53:31
yeah because it's not really a start button that's why the whole thing's white
53:35
yeah okay so let's okay i i'd like to say that we're gonna
53:38
go easy on microsoft for a little bit here it's funny i got called like the
53:42
ultimate microsoft fanboy by someone on like my surface 3 review
53:46
and i was like really your service 3 i know right what it's like people can
53:51
decide that i've sold out no matter what i say
53:54
didn't you rip it apart i could be i'd be like
53:57
you know what's garbage minecraft and people would be like yeah i'm oj
54:01
why do you like minecraft so much yeah i bet notch gave him five thousand dollars
54:05
to say that anyway so this is a big problem this is
54:10
just unbelievable uh original article here on forbes we're getting more and
54:14
more of our gaming news from forbes we were even talking about this a little
54:18
while ago where i was like what is forbes doing card reviews i know and no
54:21
it's like okay article in this article he goes like yeah i
54:27
think games are fine at 30fps and i'm just like yeah why is form why does
54:31
forbes say even have news well i thought other than that the
54:35
articles right right here personally i can tell the difference between 1080p
54:38
and 7720p as well as 30fps and 60fps but
54:42
i don't really care in the past i've raised the ire of the internet by
54:45
suggesting that 30fps was better for some games and opinion that i stand by
54:49
well i don't care about you yeah so anyway the point is uh blah blah blah
54:54
resolution gate or whatever everyone wants to call everything something gay
54:58
it's very goofy um so
55:01
anyway xbox marketing chief harvey eagle and that should be your first clue
55:06
marketing chief if you had to market the xbox what would
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you do other than downplay resolution and graphical horsepower
55:15
marketing chief didn't deny the spec differences but argued that it is really
55:19
hard to tell the difference if you put third-party games side by side that are
55:23
running at slightly different resolutions or frame rates now
55:26
to be clear um 1080p and 792p or even 900p and 792p
55:32
are not slightly different frame rates also there are resolutions or
55:36
resolutions rather also there are other issues here the fact that you're not
55:41
running at a native resolution means that the image is not as crisp
55:45
it means that you have to interpolate which is bad it's terrible anyway if you
55:50
put the blah blah side by side unless you're using a screen that's more than
55:54
60 inches big i defy you to really see the difference i personally struggle to
55:59
see the difference
56:05
i had a debate about this with someone and one of the points that i brought up
56:08
was that we seem to be going backwards and people are talking about how on ps2
56:12
they're playing games at 60fps i'm like yeah that should be a standard
56:17
now that should we should not have to be having this debate at this point funny
56:21
because Android games are like yeah g3
56:25
let's run it at 1440p
56:30
no wonder you know what you know how NVIDIA has talked so much about how how
56:36
their their tegra chips and mobile gaming and the console experience and
56:40
all and all that with the mobile chips and they're they're making such a big deal out of that i mean you gotta you
56:45
gotta imagine how aware a company like
56:49
that is of the kind of crap that was going on with watchdogs and how
56:52
frustrated they are by the fact that they rely on these partners to create
56:57
great pc games no wonder
57:00
they want to just throw development resources at mobile Android guys that
57:04
are like like you just said yeah 1440p where they're actually trying to
57:09
push the envelope and where the technology is actually improving i hate
57:13
Android games though they just all suck
57:16
like i i was looking through okay i haven't looked at like any of the actual
57:20
ones on the store so that might help me a little bit right but i was looking
57:23
through my humble bundle Android games which i have a ton of the other day
57:26
because i was just bored and it's waiting somewhere i was like wow i don't
57:30
want to play any of these i know i like it all
57:34
we we need we need more developers to
57:37
figure out a way to make Android games much more profitable i mean square's
57:41
done it what do they charge 14.99 for their final fantasy remakes on Android
57:45
like like we've seen we've seen 15 20
57:48
Android games before but it's not until that becomes more commonplace and sales
57:53
of games like that become more mainstream that we're gonna see developers really invest properly in the
57:58
stuff that matters like storyline like i had a lot of fun playing uh reaper did
58:03
you ever try it no it's great on shield with a controller it's it's a total
58:07
blast it's kind of like a side scrolling level-based fighting game but there's
58:11
there's no depth to it at all it's the kind of thing that you play in bed while
58:14
you're drifting off to sleep and then like the last fight you you die because
58:18
you actually fell asleep yeah yeah it's that kind of game and until they cost
58:22
more we're just it's just the rules
58:26
you until you pay for something no one's gonna make it and the other way around
58:30
and um one thing i find to be a problem too is there's a lot of people developing things that actually look
58:34
like genuinely interesting games and then you start playing it and you're
58:38
like this shouldn't be on a phone don't you have a shield right now i do
58:43
yeah okay but like i'm talking more if i'm like waiting at a bus stop right
58:48
you know it's funny i have almost no games installed on my phone anymore i
58:52
used to have like at least 10 games installed on my phone at any given time
58:56
like but you play enough fruit ninja and you get to the point where it's just not
59:00
entertaining anymore yeah for me anyway one of my problems right now is that i
59:03
am using a moto x when i had my g2 i had a lot more games installed screen's a
59:07
lot bigger right i felt like it's it's so look at my thumbs
59:12
yeah i played jetpack joyride a lot more on when i back when i was using the ipad
59:16
2. jetpack joyride was pretty all right i and but the problem for me is that for
59:21
whatever reason my account didn't sync all my items and stuff so i had like the
59:24
gold cuddles and the gold like everything and i had like every jet pack
59:28
so for me whenever they were releasing updates because i refused to pay for
59:31
stuff like that yeah so i had actually earned through coins every single item
59:35
in the game that's what i was working on too i didn't pay for anything and then as they were rolling out new stuff i
59:40
would always have kind of new stuff to buy so it was my can game right yeah and
59:43
then my account didn't sync i upgraded to iOS 7 and all my stuff was gone i'm
59:47
like yeah i'm not going to do that again i switched phones i'm not going again
59:51
you take away my coin magnet you might as well cut off my balls
59:55
okay gtx titan two this was posted like
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at like 4 10 or something an hour ago
60:05
someone linked this to us and i was just like oh god get it in the dark here is
60:10
the rumor an NVIDIA product going by the description of gm 200 a1 graphics
60:15
processor has been spotted this is kind of a new thing hey
60:19
what couriers yeah seeing the uh the documents because they legally they have
60:23
to say what's in a package in order to ship it somewhere so the couriers that
60:28
sit between NVIDIA's production facility
60:31
for their engineering samples and their testing facility are apparently picking
60:35
up on graphics card shipments so it's going to be called so it's called gm 200
60:40
a1 graphics processor um the a1 stepping signifies the
60:44
pre-production status of the chip and it will be upgraded to an a2 step stepping
60:48
before being pushed into mass production for the consumer market it is rumored to
60:51
feature over 4 000 cuda cores and a widened memory bus of 512 bits i find
60:56
that very hard to believe NVIDIA has avoided at every turn
61:03
going to 512 bit as often as they can
61:06
every time they can they've gone as wide as 384 and seem to be okay with it but
61:11
it is much more expensive to put a wider memory bus on a chip you have to do more
61:15
contact points you have to do more internal routing the design is much more difficult and if they don't have to do
61:20
it then they don't have to and with ddr4 coming so soon and a derivative of GDDR
61:27
based on ddr4 presumably in the works i don't know that they would need to
61:32
widen the bus that much more i mean it's not like we're limited on the current
61:37
generation kepler products by the memory bus that much memory overclocking
61:41
doesn't do a whole lot for performance so we'll see anyway so it's rumored to have
61:46
a 512-bit bus given the size of the 28 nanometer process this new GPU will be
61:51
very very large that's another thing is NVIDIA doesn't give up margin easily
61:56
so telling NVIDIA hey just for there's no there's no
62:00
competition that has a faster card than you but you should price this card at
62:05
9.99 just like the old titan and you should make the chip bigger
62:11
like they're gonna be like okay why
62:14
maybe we'll just do a black edition instead
62:17
like they did where it's the same chip and they can still sell it for the same
62:21
price so i don't know i'll be interested to see how that how that how that shakes
62:25
down ghost and i were kind of screwing out the dock a little bit i deleted a
62:28
lot of it but apparently not all of it we had four or five of that article and
62:33
we just titled it like gtx titan 3 gtx titan 4 gtx titan 5. we just changed
62:38
every single article to like gk310 gk410
62:41
gk510 1999 999 989 999 so it's expected
62:46
to launch uh in uh in the first half of 2015 which is
62:51
probably a pretty safe bet so we'll see how that goes i haven't heard anything about it uh
62:55
what i can say is that and i really okay
62:58
to be clear i do not think it's related
63:02
to titan ii i mean the fact that they're shipping a1 silicon allegedly between
63:07
testing facilities means it's nowhere even close to hitting the market but i
63:13
actually have a meeting with NVIDIA on monday i'll be flying down to san fran
63:16
so there's been it'll be interesting to find out what that's about there's been a lot of rumor mill stuff going around
63:20
about NVIDIA lately they're being really cagey about this so not only am i am i
63:25
um like they wouldn't even tell me what the meeting's about at all they're just like
63:31
get on a plane i'm like okay
63:35
you have a meeting and i'm like okay may i know what it's about my wife has an
63:40
ultrasound that day and i'd rather not miss it and they're like i'm like can
63:44
you can you brief me over the phone they're like no
63:47
i'm like okay can we do a different day
63:52
yes oh so it was it was going to be on the tuesday and i moved it to the monday
63:56
oh so i can go to the ultrasound on tuesday but uh but anyway they won't tell me
64:01
what it's about at all and everything they tell me is embargoed until a date
64:06
that presumably is also embargoed so don't expect to hear anything about this
64:09
from me other than that i have a meeting with them and i don't know what it's
64:12
about they didn't even respond to my question
64:16
of like what's it about just just that's the best that's
64:20
definitely the best i love a video well i mean my contact there has been at
64:23
NVIDIA for like 10 or 12 years or something like that so he knows what's
64:27
up at NVIDIA you do not leak information it's like apple like if it's something
64:32
where he's allowed to tell me he will like he and i have a pretty good rapport
64:35
but if it's something where he can't he's told not to tell anyone nobody will
64:39
know and that will be how it is they are they are like they're they're
64:44
pretty crazy at apple sometimes even the engineers
64:47
don't really know what's going on it's pretty insane or at least that's
64:51
how it was when jobs was around all right so this
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this is a controversial topic uh actually speaking of controversial
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at least you said like some words i guess cool all right
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fantastic oh so okay so let's move on to this
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topic that actually hits pretty close to home for me so lg's new wearable is a
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child tracker okay one it's butt ugly and they need to get smaller
70:56
yeah it's absurd you can't put that kind of thing how big it is on the girl's wrist mainly i know this is ridiculous
71:01
these need to be barrettes or they need to be like they need to be
71:05
something the kid feels cool wearing um that's the kind of thing that they
71:08
need to be they need to be they need to have at least a two to three day battery
71:12
life i mean we're talking if a child's missing but potentially being moved
71:16
around very quickly or there's something interfering with the signal you need to
71:19
have a few days to potentially get a lock on it um so there's this technology
71:24
needs to advance before it's actually that useful and before it's the kind of
71:28
thing that i would buy but as someone who has lost a cat as someone who has a
71:32
child and would worry about losing them has not lost child though i have not
71:36
lost him yet um i would buy this and i would put it on
71:40
my kids i see a lot of people freaking out over this and this is the kind of
71:43
thing that i would go no this is not okay blah blah normally
71:47
but it's a very obvious device your kid knows what it's freaking for and look
71:51
how old the kids are okay but i'm talking about giving them barrettes and
71:54
stuff so that's what i would buy that's fine i'm
71:59
my main point is look how old the kids are in this i'm not targeting this at
72:02
like 17 year olds well yeah no that's ridiculous that's that's what i'm saying
72:06
a lot of people think are like oh you shouldn't be able to listen to your kids conversation i was like the kid's like
72:10
seven yeah so the way it works is the kid can press a direct call button to
72:14
contact a pre-configured number and if the kid doesn't pick up an incoming call
72:18
from the parent's number within 10 seconds the device just puts the call
72:21
through and then lets the parent listen to what's going on and people who are
72:25
upset about that again they don't seem to understand who this is targeted
72:30
there's nothing my six-year-old should be discussing that i can't hear
72:35
it gets different once we're talking you know 9 10 pre-adolescent type age where
72:40
yeah where they have privacy but if they're
72:43
at the age where they're still you're still you know sitting supervising them
72:47
bathing in the tub with all of their siblings
72:50
i mean what's and like
72:54
i don't know and like the tracking thing yeah maybe at a certain age they need to be
72:59
able to kind of just take off not at six
73:03
yeah not at that age they they shouldn't be on their own and i mean this is the
73:07
kind of thing that 100 i would buy someone's like oh my god
73:11
what if the kid is asleep have you ever heard of a baby monitor
73:14
it's like so much more intrusive than a baby monitor i mean so much less intrusive than a baby motor would you oh
73:19
yes or no because it's like strapped to the kid yeah but the baby monitor has a
73:22
camera on it not always i have just an audio baby baby monitor oh okay yeah
73:26
yeah mine's actually awesome i don't know i don't even want a baby so i don't know
73:33
i actually um oh i forget what it's called i think it's called like the memo
73:37
or something baby i don't know i fully understand and
73:41
would be agree with and totally be on the side of the people that are freaking
73:44
out if it was targeted in a very stealthy manner at an older age group
73:50
but is it a totally different totally different
73:54
conversation that's like very young that's like the boyfriend tracker that's
73:57
that gotta pull off the google play store i'm not okay with that not okay
74:00
with boyfriend tracker not okay with girlfriend tracker not okay with like my
74:04
son is 17 years old tracker all that stuff is stupid but when it's like a
74:08
six-year-old kid or this this is cool so
74:11
this is uh this is the memo i actually pre-ordered this and basically what it
74:16
is is this their marketing is just just just horrendous though i'm sorry i'm
74:20
going to interject for a quick second we were talking about text messages from
74:23
crying out loud 500 prepaid cards to take a quick survey about your call with
74:28
a telus customer service rep unbelievable i haven't even had one ah
74:33
like this is ridiculous i haven't had a call with them in forever uh tell us my
74:37
isp just randomly sent me a text message we were talking about how that's bull crap i've been saying about how i get
74:42
them all the time now his isp and his phone provider yes sorry yeah both um
74:47
anyway so you are a great parent for buying our product i hate this kind of
74:50
crap but it it it is actually really cool so it lets you monitor their their
74:54
breathing temperature and stuff like that and it's just uh
74:58
it's just a onesie that they wear yeah we saw this at um ces right and it had
75:02
what was it galileo or something i don't i don't remember it was one of the Intel
75:06
little microchips in it which is pretty cool so uh i i plan to do like a review
75:10
of it or something when the new baby lands that's cool i should follow up on
75:13
my order because the baby's coming soon and i remember doing the math and it was
75:16
supposed to arrive in time so i love when you check your smart watch because you do it so officially
75:21
oh well the the issue is that okay here this is my one complaint about the
75:25
pebble steel is that it tends to sit here on my wrist
75:30
with this buckle in the middle and it like not in the middle off to the
75:34
side even though i've shortened this side as much as i possibly can so i
75:37
often have to kind of give it a little shake so the whip does two things
75:42
because that illuminates the back light on the pebble yeah and it puts it in a
75:45
better position for me to read it that makes sense it just looks so official every time and the reason i look at my
75:49
watch so often is because i don't just want to know what time it is i also
75:53
check to find out what the date and month is because i often forget these
75:57
things we're having a conversation that day when you work so much
76:01
sometimes you just focus too much on the thing at hand and you have no short-term memory anymore what was that video i
76:06
just filmed i'm not sure oh one of the uh one of the ncix higher ups uh came
76:11
into the studio today when we were filming and he was like Linus what do
76:14
you think of the lenovo x1 carbon and i'm like i don't know
76:19
what is it and he's like well you did a video of it i'm like really
76:25
did i oh if you see the video then you'll remember and you'll be able to talk
76:29
about it but like probably not no no no i don't remember i'm thinking about it i
76:34
i won't remember but if someone's like look you did the video i'll be like oh
76:37
yeah here's a bunch of extra stuff i can say but yeah i don't know all right so
76:41
let's play hot or not
76:45
and i am i'm putting a bit of a different spin on it than you might be
76:49
expecting um so hold on a second what's that site
76:53
called speaking of no memory straw poll there we go
76:56
hot or not and we are gonna have three options
77:00
hot not slick
77:04
okay so here we go
77:08
but you guys have to look at it first don't vote yet
77:13
because everyone's just gonna vote for you and i do legitimately want an answer
77:17
here the new in-win s frame so it's a limited
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edition for sale mind you they said that stupid pipe one was limited edition
77:27
first it was limited edition then it's like limited edition of each color and
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we're gonna do a bunch of colors and then now they just kind of still seem to be around anyway i don't know how
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limited any of this stuff is but limited edition up for sale basically this is a
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new case construction concept that has a single piece of aluminum
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folded over and over again so bent bent
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bent bent something that i personally have an appreciation for so my tj07 i
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love that it's a single unibody piece of aluminum for the top front and bottom um
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although this one is a little out there looking for me i prefer more classical
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style design so basically they fold it fold it fold it and then add two slices
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of tempered glass i love that glass
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needs to be a more prominent design
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material or like a more frequently used design material for computer cases
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versus acrylic because acrylic is poopy and then there are carbon fiber areas
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for cable routing this is a good view of it right here so you can see how this
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piece is folded folded folded folded folded the motherboard tray mounts right
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here and then there's also a demo build here that was on display that you guys
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can check out with with liquid cooling so here's what i want to know twitch
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hot or not here is the link the official
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straw poll link i'm just gonna paste these a few times here so you guys can
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get your votes in
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so what do you think um i'm watching votes come in
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what do i think about the case you're just watching your ego come in is what
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you're watching pretty much actually so what do i think about the case is
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that your question yeah oh god or not
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i think it's very cool that it's a solid piece of aluminum i think so wait hold on hold on hold on
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so cool would be not then
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i think it's very something that's cool is by definition not hot i think it very
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i think it's very hot that it has a solid piece of balloon okay sorry sorry
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um i think it's very cool it has a solid piece of aluminum i really appreciate that they actually use glass
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um what i don't like is that it's if you
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take the one piece of glass off it's like a glorified test bench because of
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how open air it is right
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the guy that posted the thread brought up the idea that like you can't look at
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this like a performance box right look at it like an art installation i don't
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that's not his exact words but that's essentially what he was saying um and
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that's an interesting idea but the thing is just gonna like it's not gonna be an
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artist installation for that long because it's just gonna be a dust hammer and if i was gonna have something really
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that i thought was beautiful and and and an artsy i would probably go for a desk
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computer i'd go for a nice tempered glass top a desk computer
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and it's filtered intakes and it's pretty aggressive
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to be a fancy artsy you know what i mean and then my other
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issue is that there's nothing that really matches it yeah so the tower
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looks like what it looks like and then the only way to have something kind of similar looking i mean i guess you could
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go Corsair mechanical keyboard
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the black and white yeah with a black aluminum backing you could go uh you
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could go i don't know thermaltake bmw mouse
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um it's totally uncomfortable and way too heavy but like if you wanted
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something that looked kind of but this is very but the bmw must have circles cut into
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it that's true this is very strange it's very edgy almost again actually the
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Corsair mouse yeah you could go with like an m65 or whatever which is a laser
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mouse unfortunately i'm but it's more cut i'm pushing them to do an optical
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like RGB mouse that's what i'd like to see like a lower end
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sensor optical sensor but with high-end
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features like RGB and all that kind of crap all right so most of you are saying
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although it's actually very close between slick and hot so most of you
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which obviously means that those go together nah not no it means that those are
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bitter enemies because they're competing against each other no see we're grouping
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up in one and two we're beating up on not
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that's really not how voting works actually um so anyway um
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most of you are no uh so most of you are saying slick with the rest of you saying
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either hot or not and about it's about a two to one ratio between hot and not for
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the in-win case one thing that's going to be a problem is it's going to be
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expensive yeah it's going to be extremely expensive really expensive the site that's estimated how expensive it's
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going to be is known for being totally not right but it's still going to be
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really expensive all right so we've got a few more rapid
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fire topics here so there's a police dog that was trained to sniff out hard
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drives and memory cards this was originally posted by johnners on the
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forum and it's a hexis article i got kind of a kick out of this
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so this is thoreau
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and uh the idea is to find technological
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jackets gadgets which could contain child
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pornography so they want to find uh child porn traffickers is there a
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specific smell to child pornography no but there's a specific smell apparently
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to these electronics and i think that's pretty darn cool
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you know dogs continue to be amazing although i'm not stoked for like every
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single piece of electronics i have being individually searched through every
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single file when i go through the airport well okay yeah
82:40
desktop sales are apparently no longer in decline this was bound to happen
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eventually because the desktop is not dead
82:46
and it's just not mouse keyboard monitor usage experience is not dead it's just
82:52
they're not getting as fast anymore and what he just said
82:55
they are so much more reliable now than they used to be i mean
82:59
it used to be you didn't even get solid state caps on a server grade motherboard
83:03
yeah you were still getting electrolytic capacitors look at how many successful first boots you have now compared to
83:08
before the huge very important rule used to be make sure that you um don't put
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the side panel on your computer bad luck to screw in the side panel and now it's
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like you see it doesn't matter everything is gonna
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yeah so anyway they are no longer declining according to gartner and i
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believe there was one other analyst firm that was saying that uh they aren't
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declining although they didn't quite agree on exactly how much how much it's not
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declining but it's like a very very very very very minor decline yeah i mean i i
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i hope that this is good news for the pc industry in general not just for the the
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desktop pc because i don't think it was going any i never thought it was going
83:47
anywhere anyway but i i hope this is good news for the health of the pc
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industry now once things have leveled out and it's not this market share grab
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and race to zero i hope we see more expensive products and hold on a second
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i'm not asking for gouging but what i'm asking for is higher quality
84:05
from your products yes i'm i'm asking for i'm asking for companies to see the
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opportunity that someone like apple has seen to deliver premium products that
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are just legitimately better than the other ones that are out there i think
84:17
the blade 14 is a fantastic example of this um
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funny funny thing as much as i appreciate you guys posting all over
84:25
razer's like twitter and facebook and everything i don't legitimately need
84:29
razer to give me a blade 14. it's fine i would love to have one but razer's
84:34
policy with systems is that they don't give out review units and that's fine um
84:40
so it is what it is and it's i i don't i don't need it that badly if i did
84:45
i could probably save my pennies it would be for quite a while and i could
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probably buy one but it's just outside of my price range and that's okay i have
84:54
an excellent laptop that i'm very happy with and i'll continue to use this until
84:58
it dies which it might be dying since the water incident i've been getting
85:02
some blue screens so
85:06
it works for now though and something can sit blue screening for a long time
85:10
before it actually decides to die well yeah but i don't like losing work
85:13
because i do a lot of work on this laptop like auto saving through word
85:17
that shouldn't be that big yeah it but it's a pain in the butt because like you
85:20
know how i manage my browser tabs and sometimes it doesn't remember my session
85:23
and so you're super annoying sorry to interject here but in terms of
85:27
remembering session when you when you close your browser and then like
85:32
something updates and forces a a browser open like flash it'll be like thank you
85:36
for installing whatever and then your your restore session is now that
85:40
freaking page oh my god
85:44
screw off i've lost so many important
85:47
things that way just like damn it i can't go into history for this because i
85:50
opened it like four days ago my god
85:54
yeah you only keep a couple days of history
85:58
no it's just like i don't remember exactly what it's called like i don't remember exactly what was
86:02
important i just remember there was important things and going through all
86:05
that history would be ridiculous all right we've got a couple more rapid fire
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topics here so uber hamburger has posted
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this vr room technology that you guys should probably check out the video for
86:16
it's pretty freaking cool this is definitely one of those things where it's like yeah version much higher than
86:21
this yeah needs to be a thing yeah but they've got
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a great preview here at the very beginning where the guy's walking around
86:28
in a room like a projected room so you can see the flickering that the camera
86:32
is picking up but it's it's 3d so he's wearing 3d glasses and then he's got
86:35
tracking points on this device he's holding as well as the glasses that
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allow him to walk around the virtual room and like look under things and walk
86:45
around things sort of i mean if you walk into the wall with the projections yeah
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on it then that that's a problem he's yeah he's seeing through the
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glasses so he can actually see if he's gonna walk into the wall or not he's
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saying that it's so immersive that they've actually had problems with
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people coming into the room walking around in it for a few minutes
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and then not being able to figure out where the exit is
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so their system for this is that when you touch each of the walls the one with
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the exit door makes a noise so that you can go find the door because otherwise
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people just get completely disoriented it's pretty cool and uh they're
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completely immersed in it that's cool and then the last topic that i have
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today is there's a watchdogs mod
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i'm worried you're gonna go to this one oh actually i guess there's one verizon
87:34
claims netflix is the one causing internet congestion um apparently they
87:38
actually have like really solid data yeah so where they're legitimately
87:42
trying to make the isps look bad by choosing crappy roots yeah
87:47
that's not good that's that's sort of terrible like verizon sucks but that's
87:50
still not good yeah so there you go
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too too hot for tv you're gonna not want that to go yeah i know i know i know so
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so basically there you go that's uh that's aiden pierce
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with this particular watch dogs mod
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that makes sense and he paused it at the exact right second
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good work yep that was about to get a lot a lot less uh safer work
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than it than it was right there so
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that's pretty much it oh no i have one more thing so you guys
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still have a little bit more time um but i'm amazed at what the response has been
88:31
to this uh we have a campaign going on teespring
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right now to get your commemorative highlander shirts and 130 of you so far
88:41
have uh have bought highlander commemorative either american apparel
88:45
crew neck shirts uh gildan heavy blend hoodies or gildan long sleeves so these
88:51
are the three different options available i'm personally
88:55
maybe gonna get a hoodie i already have a shirt because i actually attended so i
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already have this exact shirt but uh yeah if you guys want one check that out
89:03
also tech syndicate has their own commemorative highlander shirts so those
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are a little bit different they're monochrome and then they have the logos
89:09
and the names of the youtube channels on the back and i think i saw a tweet from
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jimmy a little while ago um i don't know exactly what's going on with that but i
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think it's available soon if it isn't already so
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it doesn't really matter who you buy it from the point is just i think they
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wanted some tweaks made to the design so they wanted to put some stuff on the
89:29
back and then we wanted to offer not just t-shirts but a couple of different
89:32
styles so we kind of did our own thing with it and you can buy whatever you
89:36
think is cool and or not or just don't at all that's fine too also okay yeah
89:42
also okay i'm gonna get one for like my whole family and probably buy a sweater
89:45
for myself so that's me but you know oh yeah it's
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teespring.com highlanderland yeah and if if you just
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go to teespring.com you can click search custom apparel and if you type in highlander it just comes up cool so that
89:58
also works totally fine teespring's actually kind of cool it's different we normally use district lines and the way
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teespring works is you don't actually have to pre-buy your inventory like we
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do with district lines where we pre-print shirts and then we put them on a shelf whereas with teespring you do
90:11
campaigns like this where it's like okay we need a goal of 150 and then our
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pricing from teespring is based on achieving that goal and then they print
90:20
them all at once and then ship them all once and saw one campaign i'll tell you
90:23
guys now the margin is a lot lower for us um
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like these are costing multiple dollars more than the ones that
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we have on um on district lines
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but it gives us a little bit more flexibility in certain ways like we can
90:40
embed teespring links within our videos um i don't know like it's i don't know
90:45
it's american imperial instead of next level no america we're doing american
90:49
apparel on district lines as well um so i don't know i it doesn't allow us to
90:54
offer shirts on an ongoing basis as easily like on district lines it's
90:58
really easy for us to just keep when show stealth in stock because that one
91:01
just consistently sells like one a day or two a day and people just like it um
91:07
whereas this is very campaign based it's like hey we did this event here's a commemorative shirt we're never going to
91:11
print this again i don't know we just used both
91:15
yeah i think so i mean we don't have no exclusivity deal with anyone i'm just i'm just talking about why we do things
91:20
the way we do them in case people who watch our show are
91:23
interested in this could make sense for stuff like when we did resolution as a
91:26
number yeah and different events like highland i think resolution as a number
91:30
has staying power i think people will still think that's a funny shirt down the road
91:34
or maybe not i don't know
91:38
i always think i'm funny though so maybe i'm just maybe i'm biased you didn't
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even make that joke which one resolution is just numbered i know i just think my
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shirt about it is funny oh yeah okay
91:50
that makes sense i think we still have to do now with 30
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more gen
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if you make it look like a retro ad yeah yeah because that's legitimate joke
92:01
anyway i think we're done here gaming pcs um i am going to do a garage sale
92:04
today so if you guys want to stick around there's going to be potentially some cool stuff i don't know what
92:08
happened to it all so i'll probably have to go get it but uh it probably got
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cleaned up yeah thanks thanks for watching the wine show guys peace out
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see you next week yay bye
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oh it's broken oh no there we go yay
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we should just have an outro one um yeah but then i use up a scene i only
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have 12 next split
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they should have more scenes
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i don't know now with 30 more scenes
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we should do this
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