and welcome to the WAN Show everyone the
show where we talk about stuff that's going on in tech as well as whatever
tickles our fancy and let me tell you when it comes to tickling
things can get pretty fancy around here
we've got some great topics for you this week uh Windows 9 is rumored to be
getting a revamped drm scheme that
a is kind of brutal and b kind of makes a lot more sense but more on that later
also Windows 7 is going to be losing support a lot sooner than i think most
people would like the uh you know just split support the just shy of 50 of
people out there that are running Windows 7 right now
might not be thrilled about this and then what else we got ad block plus is
getting sued and not for necessarily what you'd think don't you dare tell
them something else a real topic he was gonna say potato salad that is a real
talk it's not funny it's it's stupid and
it exploits the system i want to talk about what you just it doesn't exploit
the system it exploits humanity i don't know what it exploits
humans desire to be a part of something larger
is that exploitation or is that just giving them what they what they need to
be happy is giving people what they need exploitation
why don't we just just you're getting something from them at the same time cue
the intro we didn't even he said that as if they had it's like i didn't even save
potato salad i had to do nothing for that you enjoyed the whole potato salad
topic dude
it's my vitamix i forgot to take it at lunch today
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he's very protective of his cables all right we've got a great show for you today guys uh you know it's kind of like
it's kind of like we're in the driver's seat of what's going on here we've got a
great chauffeur chauffeur
not good no one should put us in the driver's seat
no especially if that driver is driving
to a comedy club to a comedy club because we would do really bad on stage
it's not even a pun
but get it see that's the point of the joke no
the point of a joke can never be that the joke isn't funny but that was the
whole that's the whole thing so we weren't funny so we couldn't go to
the comments my jokes are funny i just i
just laugh about pretending that they're not
because um i don't think your jokes are that
funny some of them are funny thank you
i'm not sure i think inherently puns can't actually be that funny oh puns are
a very high form of humor this is why you're not funny
so anyway um why don't you pick my first time i like puns i'm i'm firing up the
old twitch chat here so that i can like talk i already fired the twitch chat
that's what shouts on myself you can't fire the twitch chat i love the twitch
chat i defended you guys now tell me let's
draw a poll now who whose side are you on twitch chat
Linus is putting words in my mouth oh it's not the only thing i'm gonna put in
your mouth
speaking about putting things in people's mouths Windows 9 revamped activation drm they're getting rid of cd
keys those like giant 16 character alphanumerical things that you used to
have to use back in the old days before like steam and stuff i hate those things
they're stupid have you noticed how many how a few
times you actually have to use them now i had to enter one to install started i
had to enter two because i had to install the game and then the uh star
system uh uh supreme commander sorry oh supreme
commander so i had to enter two like in a row i'm just like well i was like i
don't want to do this i feel like the 90s
i have these discs and these strings
what is this anyway sorry carry on tell them about the rumored drms rumored drm schemes
we're not even sure but basically what's gonna happen is you're gonna have to have a microsoft store account that's
not the same as your microsoft account so i can't continue to actually just use
my hotmail account that i've had since the dawn of time thanks for that anyway
microsoft store account um and the images are gonna be served to you
through the microsoft store so it's gonna be attached to your account very
similar to how all these like gaming platforms are doing their stuff now your
machine's detailed usually just your motherboard details are gonna be logged
with microsoft and the software is still activated on your
machine but if you're freaked out right now just
like i did when i first read that it's not actually that big of a deal because
if you go to install the os on another machine it'll just deactivate your old machine
re-log your new motherboard details and you're good to go so it's not actually
they thought about that which is surprising and cool
um that's that's honestly basically it one
of the big things that can be pushing for Windows 9 which we already knew is that they're going to be trying to make
it for people that really liked Windows 7. this is going to be their big push
they're bringing back the start menu supposed to be an extremely functional start menu uh they're gonna be talking
about it in fall with early public and semi-public pre-retail versions of the
os being released and circulated at that point in time so especially if you're
like going to school for something in in the way of like
something that's related to computer science at all you'll probably be
getting versions of this really early or if you're in the industry at all you'll
probably be getting a version of this early and then um
yeah i don't know Windows is like one of the most pirated
things and i guess like i i
i get that they need to not be pirated as much and i can understand that they
have to do something and as far as uh drm approaches go
i mean as long as i don't know like i
i used to really hate the subscription
model but now that i'm on it for adobe
creative cloud um now that i'm on it for office why is this mic so quiet
having some trouble here sorry guys um now that i'm on it for office as well um
i'm starting to kind of like it and the thing that i don't like now is being
stuck with a single license of a piece of software
that's completely non-transferable now i find that actually a lot more
effective oh you mean like steam i mean like the i
mean the more traditional Windows approach where particularly the oem licenses it's
just it's like this it's stuck it you had to buy it once and then it's just
but this kind of solves that problem because if you activate it on another
machine it just deactivates the other machine automatically because it saves your which is actually kind of now with
retail copies of Windows that was always the case but those were also very
expensive but then i like what they've done with office having things like
three packs for families for example because my whole
they've talked apparently the concept can be adapted for three to five user
family packages so that makes more sense to me like the big problem for me with
Windows is that it's very difficult for
me to swallow the you know 500 to 600 to
however many hundred dollars upgrade every however long like i mean
they're releasing a new os every couple of years now so for me to absorb that
every couple of years to keep my entire house up to date is absurd be completely
honest you can probably skip every second one because they're terrible well okay so let's say even every four years
you should ignore eight you can ignore 10. don't worry about it
it's fine but yeah i hear you
so that's that's i guess that's i guess what makes me both um i i do things a
little bit differently though i i usually a lot an amount of money that i can spend on semi-frivolous things right
every like month you consider Windows to be a frivolous thing well because i must
have a really exciting life oh yeah but i already have
i'm kicking back this weekend i'm gonna go buy some Windows licenses you know
what though if i did i would probably spend that weekend just kind of tinkering with it i'm picking up a six
pack
go to my house we can have an install party anyone who's been to an install party oh
yeah probably probably not that many people in the audience but those those
were a thing at one point in time uh ncix did a Windows 8
launch party remember we had that thing yeah yeah yeah that was weird but no
like straight up install parties they used to be really popular for Linux early in the day when it was really hard
to figure out things you'd have like developers and stuff come down and
everyone would help each other install on all their machines and like create custom drivers if they're having issues
and stuff like that install parties they used to be able to install parties man
all right anyway what were we even talking about so i guess okay what's
your thought yay or nay if it okay let's let's put up let's put out a
hypothetical the way that it's implemented and then i'll let you know
if there's no issues and this is how it's implemented yes
so basically it's your online account i mean i'd love for them to just do it
through steam yeah if there's a way to do that like they won't but let's say it basically
works exactly like steam so you log into your account you download your iso and
then you assign the license according to whatever the serial number of your motherboard or whatever else and then
basically the way it works is you buy a license and then you can upgrade your
license to like a three pack or a five pack or something like that and you can
manage all of your machines within this one account if they do it really well
it's really streamlined and there's no with me switching between machines because my motherboard and
whatever the prick that i was scared about at the beginning which yes apparently in this they've dealt with
that yeah if there's none of that then i'm cool with it okay because honestly
Windows has pirated way too much and if it is very streamlined and very
easy for me i'm okay with it okay but it has to not
be because the biggest problem right now is i i honestly know people that pirate
Windows only because it's extremely hard
to maintain your Windows copy if you do a lot of pc upgrades i mean that's the
reason that i mean a lot of people ask why on our test bench machines it always
says this copy is not genuine in the bottom corner it's not because they're
pirated in fact if they were pirated they wouldn't say that yeah
the reason that most of the test bench machines say that is because as soon as
you swap hardware that message starts popping up unless it's like my GPU test
bench because it won't freak out when you change gpus and that test bench has been the same for a really long time so
like certain test benches won't say that but if you see that sometimes that's why and sometimes it's like they'll look for
okay you can swap the GPU as many times as you want but as soon as you change the RAM and the GPU
now it's going to freak out or something i i don't think anyone quite knows
exactly how the system works but the point is that when it's a bench that
we're swapping things in and out of all the time they inevitably
do that and it doesn't affect any of the benchmark results anyway so what are we
going to do call them up every time no that's ridiculous sometimes but just
like yeah no so if it actually worked really
streamlined like if every time i changed something it would just be like oh you have too
many machines activated and i could just be like deactivate this one and it was
like okay perfect done that would be sweet so as much as this is somewhat
good news i still have to wonder if paid os has a place in the modern world with
apple giving it away uh google giving it away if it becomes extremely difficult
to actually pirate Windows that could help Linux a lot
yeah all right so we have the results from
the straw poll oh at least we would if my capture was
working that's gonna be inconvenient today i can't believe i didn't check
this before we started streaming that is extremely unfortunate get it extremely
unfortunate i'm just going to go check and make sure that yeah she don't get
that at all at all but every once in a while it comes out and then that's bad
why is extremely unfortunate funny and i don't have wait what
stream because we're streaming oh see it's funny it's a pun
you wouldn't understand apparently all right so um
i wanted to show them the results of that but
you know what but i'm going to let you do the next topic and i'm just going to go get the live gamer portable because
it actually works unlike these black magic cards do you want to hear about something that's probably going to suck
uh really you think so yeah
oh come on okay so this was originally posted on the forum by uh blood with ice
and connect for Windows i i see it i see
it i i know connect for Windows v2 is
finally coming now i remember how laughable it was um back when they were
showing off connect for for pc and they
were showing off some of the you know medical applications for example were
you there at the microsoft booth at computex i mean
i saw some stuff about it i wasn't there though okay like it was it was super
cool so the kind you that you could just make uh you could make a 3d model of
something just by putting it on a rotating platform in front of a kinect
but obviously the the resolution is just not good enough because it's a connect
v1 and it's and it's stupid so the amount of disappoint that i had when
xbox one launched and microsoft was like
no connect on pc don't worry about it
yay because i like that to me that was the only good thing that could possibly
come out of connect v2 was putting it on the pc and letting developers usb cable
and it should have just worked yes it should have there is no reason why connect shouldn't just connect with a
usb cable not at all there's a lot of things like that actually yeah
but okay so it's gonna be it's gonna be 200 bucks most likely full 1080p
released july 15th uh the problem that i see with it is that it's not shipping
with um its Windows sdk two and they have no price for that right
now so if it's not coming with that bundled in you're not gonna see massive
adoption for it and i don't see a lot of really big games building in support for
connect sorry
i don't know i don't really it doesn't make a ton of
sense in my opinion i can see some people doing it the 200 bucks isn't
too bad but something to think about is that the leap motion which has way more
support right now and is cheaper also exists and not all that many people
are kind of jumping all over the leap motion and the connect one when it worked on pc
didn't exactly get a huge amount of adoption most of stuff you're seeing
with connect one was hacker type people making their own little applications
that they didn't even necessarily share and then that was almost it
so i don't know i don't know if the adoption for this is gonna be super huge
we see tons of stuff coming out right now which is gonna take a lot of custom
work to work into people's games and stuff and i i don't see people being able to
cater to all of them there's there's that toby thing that steel series is
working on for eye tracking there's oculus there's control vr there's
connect there's leap motion there's so many different things
and it's way too saturated and as a game developer sitting down are you actually
going to pick connect as one of the things that you're going to really work on i guess for me the thing is that i
don't even really see it as as necessarily a gaming play i think it's
interesting in in much more interesting in things outside of gaming yeah to be
honest i see it much more interesting in terms of uh like what you're talking
about 3d scanning yeah yeah 3d printers are a huge deal 3d scanning and 3d
printing with something higher res than connect one that's like i think that
could be really cool freaking i don't see this being a huge thing in terms of
gaming that's why i was yeah and i mean things like i mean for even if the
software development kit is somewhat expensive um if you can with 200
hardware if all of a sudden you can do really great uh motion capture for
example that's that's awesome that's really cool so that's the kind of thing
like again i don't expect this to make a huge difference to
you know the average joe immediately but i still i'm glad they're finally doing
it i wish they would have done it right away and that's sort of what i have to say about that so whose side are you on
potato salad is the big winner didn't we agree with each other on this on what on
this no i didn't agree that they should be on
your side and potato salad above me why would i agree on that but no weren't we
on the same side about what this wasn't this them no i just asked them whose
side they were on but in general no it was nothing to do with microsoft it was
just in general so basically in the popularity contest of me versus you
direct potato salad is more popular than either but i wanted to bring up the
potato salad topic so that just gets added to my score
all right yeah that's how it works that's so weird do you even know
anything about math
all right so adblock plus
adblock is being sued by some germans or
something the point is they're being sued the original poster on the forum
was victorious secret and the original source is over at neowind.net so we're
going to go ahead and there's the original article so we all know what ad
block does adblock lets you block those
pesky ads oh my god it's in the name heaven forbid a content creator actually
get paid for doing the work that they did talking to people today about how
five gallon buckets makes more money than line detectives yeah that kind of
blew their brain five gallon buckets calm more profitable than lightest tips
anyway the point is that that's how content creators get paid and blocking
ads is basically a scummy thing to do in the first place so
should it surprise us that this company that exists for the so that that's sole
product is all about avoiding other having other having people
avoid having someone else get paid um
turns out that they're just potentially allegedly kind of scummy so the word on
the street right now and the reason that they're being sued is not necessarily
just because some company is butt hurt that they're not getting paid because
adblock is allowing users to circumvent their ads no what they're actually being
accused of is that as having an illegal
business model so it was recently reported that google has been paying
money in order to allow its ads to pass
through adblock plus so that is that is some dirty
dirty stuff that is that is that is super gross
people are like yeah that block isn't illegal as far as i know you know it's
not no it's not the but what but what is like some scary mafia tactics
is protection money man letting google play through and that is basically what
we're talking about that we're talking ad block turning their business model if
this is true into basically a way of
double dipping charging add creators double in order to
get people to actually see the ads i mean
wow it's kind of awesome but awesome in a
terrible way like horrible
and i can't wait till this becomes if it if the german guys don't win if this
becomes a much bigger thing you can just go to adblock site and be like yeah i
want you to unblock this whole website like if we could like pay to get line
detectives unblocked that would be hilarious
because that would become really widespread and then adblock would be useless
you know what it's a lot of the time it's the you know internet liberation
whatever blah blah blah the internet should be free everything should be free
that are that are that are trumpeting the merits of adblock and then you look
at what ad lock's doing and this is no less dirty than trying to circumvent
something like net neutrality it is equally dirty creating tiered
delivery systems on the internet is wrong period so guys then you're gonna
have to be able to afford to make money on the internet you're gonna have to be
able to afford to pay the content
creator to to advertise and you're going to have to afford to pay the ad block
mafia to allow your ad through someone just said on the twitch chat ad
block is great i'd never internet again without it and
as an ad block user you should hold them
accountable for this in some way so if you guys are going to go and be
crusaders about whatever it is you be crusaders about this is one of them you
got to also attack adblock for what they're doing i'm not even i'm not even
saying right now do i personally want people to use adblock no i'm a content creator my
survival is uh ads so i like people to
watch ads it's good i appreciate when they watch and listen to our sponsors
and all that but am i telling you guys right now go and uninstall your ad block
because they're bad people no i'm saying do something because
this voice your opinion is a bad people thing to do at least let them know that
you that that's not okay and you're not gonna like if you if you attack adblock
for this they're not gonna shut down and it's it's one thing if adblock is
completely blocking ads and it's another thing if they're not
these are both legal but the accusation right now is that
allowing the ones that they get paid to allow is not legal
because that's not what the end user signed up
for that's certainly not what the ad server or the content creator had in
mind they're basically just playing around with it on in their own little
sandbox over there speaking of sandboxes potato salad
kickstarter we're flying through topics really is
just the ultimate playground right now isn't it one thing i got to drop first
is that we're at about forty seven thousand dollars now we were at seventy
thousand dollars before so a lot of people have pulled back i shouldn't say we because it wasn't us this is not our
idea either of us nope so everyone's pretty much heard about it at
this point it's some guy posted on kickstarter he's making potato salad the
perks are just stuff like getting better mayonnaise from the natural food section
calling a chef to get a better recipe just
stuff like that and it's
i i don't even know what else i have super stupid there's a whole bunch of
different stretch goals too like he was just talking about like at three
thousand dollars which he's massively passed and he's not putting any more
stretch goals who's being exploited here because i feel like someone must be
i don't know i mean if people voluntarily give their money because
they think it's funny i mean
my favorite thing too is like the hat and the t-shirt which they're like yeah
you get a hat or a t-shirt but there's no graphics though so you have no idea what it's going to be
yeah yeah you literally just take a salad themed hat helvetica
letters that say potato salad yeah yeah and i mean you know what if i was a
backer of this that would probably be what i would want it would be whatever
goofy thing that the internet thinks is funny and
and that would be it i mean so i get a salad with like a cat wrapped around the
bowl and rainbows you know i
i don't know an ea logo on the back i want to make a comparison to gambling
here because gambling when you talk to
gamblers like there's the addicts and then there's the people who gamble for
fun and they'll tell you look it's not about winning it's about i paid 200
and i had 200 worth of entertainment
and if they win then great and if they lose then they paid for entertainment
and that's what it is so is this is it wrong and is it stupid if people
are genuinely ten dollars worth of entertainmented
by giving ten dollars to this and did they get their money's worth
then some of the stuff i really like is and like i'm gonna tie into what you
just said in a moment but some of the stuff i really just like is the the
three dollar tier where you get a bite of potato salad
he sold that to a thousand people
he's gotta make a lot of potato salad yeah a thousand bites of potatoes but i
guess that does kind of tie in so if you if you donated three dollars
is it worth it so that one day you'll get potato salad in the mail
and you can instagram it or tweet it to your friends or post it on facebook or
whatever and be like oh well look i just got potato salad in the mail
because this kickstarter thing that i backed is that worth the three dollars maybe i mean it's funny because we we
have such different standards for different entertainment media
and in terms of how much we're willing to pay like for some reason we're okay
paying you know but i mean by the time you take a lady friend with you buy a
popcorn buy a drink 20 well i was gonna say like 25 30 bucks
i don't know what kind of popcorn you're buying but dudes two popcorns and two
drinks is like 25. you bought her popcorn
and you didn't bring your own drink i thought you're gonna say youtube i
thought you're gonna say and you didn't bring me
maybe that was where i was going with it next actually me i always make sure that
we eat before we go because i'm never buying that stupid crap it's way too
expensive okay well let's say you only buy tickets let's say you're a complete
cheapskate like the two men in this room
and you still paid like 25 bucks to go and be entertained for an hour and a
half and then you get people upset over
a play time of six hours for a triple a game
that they paid 60 for it's like well hold on a second and i'm not saying some
people are upset when it's like 10 15 hours and i'm not saying you're wrong i
i was i was pretty upset about uh episode five of wolf among us i was like
yeah that was an hour of play time and like a third of it spoiler alert
and like a third of it is stupid fight scenes that aren't even as good as the
ones in the previous games and this like weird chase and then the rest of it is
the most predictable dialogue
crap ever i was so disappointed like
episodes one and two awesome and then
it's like they got the game of thrones franchise and they're like okay we need
to like pinch out this wolf among us thing as fast as we can so that we can
make all the money making game of thrones games which is probably i'm not
not accusing anyone of anything but there you go anyways well another thing
i want to bring up is what are we even talking about anymore potato salad but
another thing i want to bring up is that the amount of tears where he has to say
thank you during making the potato salad
he has to say thank you to like 4 000 something people
like the first tier you get it for a dollar so 1745 people back that the
second tier you get it 1058 people back that the third tier you get it 1020
people back that i think it's probably gonna go through the whole thing do you
think he's bitten off more than he can chew
do you bite off a piece of potato salad
you have to make like a potato salad bar you could
you know what's funny fancy restaurants man i swear the less prepared the food
is the more expensive the less prepared and the more stacked
think about it the less fancy the restaurant is the more flat your plate is that when you go to a fancy
restaurant they just put everything in a pile here like these are these are these are
basically just the stupidest thing ever i went to a restaurant once and like it
was someone else's treat i never eat at places like this
and uh i was just like how do i eat this
this is called a wedge salad i was like what the hell is this that's so stupid
basically they just quarter a thing of iceberg lettuce it's not even expensive
lettuce iceberg lettuce like they're like what 60 cents ahead and then they
put like bacon and stuff on it and it's like yeah we prepared this and the the
guy's like oh yeah you use a fork and a knife i'm like what so i and it was like
25 for the salad or something like that and i'm like so what i pay more and they
prepare it less so in my mind
if he made the fanciest potato salad ever it would actually be whole potatoes
a potato that you like mashed an egg into
it's like it should be drizzled over the top how to it's like how to basic potato
salad edition just like put a whole bunch of potatoes throw a whole bunch of
potatoes into a bowl and then take a whole thing of eggs and just throw it
into the bowl and be like there here's your freaking potato salad
green onions are extra how too basic the restaurant
would be a scary place to eat but there's so many people that would go
to it no problem i'd almost want to go i uh did i tell
you about my restaurant concept that i had a little while ago no okay i had an
idea that i actually think is amazing so um theme kind of themed fun restaurants
are a bit of a thing sorry i'm gonna introduce you real quick he quite literally has to say thank you to all
580 people every single tier has that included and given how many people have
names that are impossible to pronounce that's going to be a challenge it is anyway there's uh there's one called
what is it called dark table yes dark table where the the the entire
restaurant is completely blacked out the unfortunate thing about dark table in
vancouver is that the entry door doesn't
have like a spacing at the beginning like a spaceship so when you open up the
door you get light and the bathroom is the same way and dark tables in other
cities there's usually some torque some type of like dark room in between the
dining area and a dark room in between the bathroom okay so anyway so dark
table it's completely blacked out inside and it's supposed to be kind of like
having the experience of being blind all the waiters and waitresses are blind the
cooks are not okay so so like dark table
is kind of cool and i was like okay so if people are into this whole like
interesting dining experience thing i was i was thinking
of having there should be a restaurant where all the food is incredibly awkward and
difficult to eat so i thought that should be hilarious it
would be the ultimate icebreaker first date or like double date place to go so
you could have you could have dishes like single noodle spaghetti
where the entire thing is one noodle and you don't give them a spoon or a knife
so basically you just have to like
do it like the chop it off with your teeth yeah so the idea is just that if
everyone looks like an idiot then no one has to worry about oh i spilled a little
bit or i have something dripping down my elbows like like you could have
sandwiches with just like basically you know disgusting amounts of of sauce
intentionally on one side oh yeah from this so it will go out and then it will
so it'll just drip down your elbows just stuff like that where you want things to
still be delicious but they would be intentionally socially awkward to eat
and like the rules would be whatever utensils we
bring you that's all you can use to eat it they only they only give you uh like
no utensils at all so they don't give you any and it's sushi that's way too big to fit in your mouth yeah like stuff
like that right yeah yeah so you'd have to like destroy it or mash it in your
mouth yes see that kind of thing i think that would be a lot of fun that would
actually probably be someone needs to someone needs to have that restaurant
maybe this potato salad guy should start that restaurant with his like
forty seven thousand dollars that's not even uh yeah i guess that's a lot of
money not enough to start a restaurant that's what i meant i meant that in the
context of not enough to start a restaurant not like i am so i am so
loaded that forty thousand dollars is not a lot of money it is going to be interesting though because with that
forty seven thousand dollars he has to he has to make a recipe book for potato
salad he has to ship out thousands and thousands of bites of
potato salad like a lot of them um he
has to all the t-shirts video all the t-shirts
all the hats i think there might even be more stuff there's a lot of shipping that's gonna be in here he's shipping
out thousands and thousands of things so he's probably not gonna be able to do it by himself he's probably gonna have to
get people to help him like he's gonna come out with a ton of money
probably maybe not even that much but it's not gonna be forty seven thousand dollars
i could easily see him spending at least 20 grand
doing all this stuff i don't know i just don't see the appeal
i think it's funny but i don't think it's technically funny i don't know
there's no such thing as technically funny humor is not technical
but you can have a terrible sense of humor
um okay so speaking of not a lot of money uh samsung's factory was robbed at
gunpoint 36 million in smartphones tablets and
laptops stolen so it was a group of about 20 armed men uh this happened
earlier this week the speculation right now is that there
was probably someone on the inside involved in pulling off this heist but
basically they had some of the employees subdued at gunpoint they had others just
kind of going about their days working not even aware of what was going on favorite part while some employees were
held hostage during the site the report claims that the majority of others just
continued working
it's just like what
you're like i can't run away because they'll shoot me
and if i stop working who knows my job could be in jeopardy
so i just might as well keep on working so um
yeah i mean i would i have you know the funny like i i don't mean for this to
come across the wrong way but i just don't get it what would you even do with
that many smartphones how would you even unload that many smartphones without
getting caught if you know people that own stores or whatever
right but i mean we're talking smartphones we're talking things with
with digital serial numbers that are going to be reported to
a carrier at some point like these are things that are pretty difficult
to cover up they're very trackable i mean it's one of those things where i don't
know you guys ever watched numbers you know you go and you on a map you kind of
go okay well here's where they're being activated
they're probably coming from somewhere in here like this is this is legitimately a way that you could track
something like this so unless they have an extremely diverse distribution
network all full of people who aren't going to breathe a word
how do you not get caught doing something like this move i guess
like you might be able to find the store but then maybe the store doesn't know
maybe you go to a distributor but the issue is that someone knows someone
knows and i don't know what the laws are like in brazil but here
selling stolen goods even if i didn't know is still illegal it's still a big
deal yeah so i don't know i have no idea what the
laws are like in brazil but i can't imagine this would be the hardest thing
to track especially if they sold that much money worth of stuff they must have
been in there for so long oh yeah they were loading trucks and trucks yeah yeah
exactly so the amount of chance that you left some type of dna evidence behind
the amount of chance that some camera got you at some point in time well the
good news is they didn't kill or hurt anyone because if they had then it
becomes i mean it's still whatever is
bigger than grand theft but all of a sudden it becomes it becomes murder yeah
um yeah geez i don't know people are saying
there's a lot of gold and smartphones i really think that there are there are
better ways to get that much gold with 20 armed people than breaking into a
smartphone factory and taking forward probably not what
they're going for i mean i i gave i give you guys props like thank
you for the good idea but i really don't think that's it like if i was gonna
coordinate a heist like this and i wanted gold i would probably rob a
jewelry distribution hub not an electronics one and those exist just
throwing that out there probably hard to find probably harder to
find than like samsung's distribution hub but if you
are bringing along 20 people armed with
truck drivers and everything i don't know you could probably find it
you could probably figure it out yeah all right so speaking of smartphones the
original poster for this on the forum was adam isaac lang and the original
article is from venturebeat and it's all about a vast recovering data off of cell
phones that they bought on ebay this is something that i guess we should have
seen coming um
but i had expected to be a little bit more difficult and a little bit less
effective than it turns out that it was because the thing about flash based
storage is that unlike magnetic based
storage it's actually reshuffling itself in the background quite a bit so
magnetic-based storage the way that file recovery works is when you delete
something it only deletes the references to where the files are it doesn't
actually delete the entire file because that's very time consuming and magnetic
storage is slow with an SSD particularly
a trim enabled one it actually does a bit more of a thorough job it does it's
going to have to delete the references the pointers to where the files are but
then between sort of cleaning up the drive in order to optimize it for better
performance and in both in terms of trim
and in terms of idle garbage collection um a lot of data should in theory be
lost and scrambled around because unlike a hard drive where you're gonna write a
file as continuously as possible with an SSD things get scattered around all over
the place so even though you might only actually delete let's say five percent
of a file as you are reshuffling things around there's still a good chance that
you would corrupt especially certain file types that aren't as resilient to
uh to to partial losses of their data so
i didn't expect this to work as well as it did but according to the report from
avast um they were able to get 40 000 photos
750 emails 250 names and addresses and
one loan application why do you have your loan application on
your phone don't do that
but in in general i mean part of the the whole thing there is they're like okay
look you should probably use our software and do a proper secure wipe
where you're actually overwriting things so it's it's a bit of a publicity stunt
more than anything else but the fact that
um what was it i forget what the numbers were it's not
it's not in our notes but only a very small fraction of the phones had any
security software oh yeah previously installed on them whatsoever so avast's
point and their app is free so it's not like they're actually trying to sell you
something for five bucks or whatever a vast's point is yo guys
please be aware of this your phone is like the least secure thing ever uh oh
apparently it was to boost sales of its secure wipe antivirus program for thirty
dollars a year uh okay when i was
reading the article earlier i i think they have one security app that is free
okay there you go anyway there are free apps though that can do a proper secure
race of your phone so just something to be aware of even if you don't want to
give a vast your money for it okay a little bit confused there
my bad the security prices packages range with the most costing about 30
dollars while avas is free thank you i've asked this free i knew it
all right so uh here here was kind of a scandal
this week this was interesting so the ftc is oh yeah suing t-mobile or finding
them or whatever it is they're doing to them basically they want money from them
for knowingly adding bogus charges to
the bills of their customers uh this was originally posted on the forum by rayu
kun and there have actually been so quite a
few updates his post was really good by the way as it's gone as it's gone along
here so pretty much t-mobile fired back almost
immediately saying you know hey well
look we don't engage in this it was an industry
problem um we don't understand why we're being
gone after because we're about the most consumer-friendly
mobile carrier ever
their ceo called the claims unfounded and without merit and we believe that
customers should pay only for what they want and what they sign up for
and uh yeah so ft the ftc says that the services that
they were charging for in question had refund request rates of up to 40 percent
in a single month and t-mobile is allegedly collecting as much as 40
percent of the revenue generated from these services so so i'm interested to
see how this pla plays out services being like flirting tips and horoscope
and celebrity crap and stupid things like that which no one should ever yeah
so so basically it's it these are premium sms services
that they are that they're commonly charging for so i didn't even know this still existed
i didn't know that either in fact i don't even know why i still get sms
messages from my carrier with the new legislation in canada that
forbids spam even mailing lists that i'm signed up
for have told me they can't continue to email me unless i specifically authorize
them to do it is is sms not covered by this i actually
haven't seen it that's more annoying than email because i got a uh i got an
upgrade to the galaxy s4 mini for only this much text the other day and it
carries something like a 10 million dollar fine 1 million or 10 million or
something stupid annoying tell us text messages yeah well the the issue is that
i'm close to the end of my contract so my contract is ended so they just spam
me constantly it's like wow i'm at a time in my in my bi in my cycle here
when i can leave you at any time seems like a good opportunity to piss me off
doesn't it yeah it's what goes through carriers heads but you know what the
scary thing is is if it didn't work they wouldn't do it yep i'm sure it works
because you're not even i know a lot of people that don't even realize their
contract actually ends they're like oh i can get this phone for this much sure
they going to get that phone and they're contracted again
well there you go if you don't even really think about when your period ends you don't really think about all those
different things that did not come out right
i'm in your contract period oh
no okay anyways
i guess that's a thing i saw the picture i'm going to go with
in terms of carriers
can we move on now nano pixels so this was originally
posted on the forum by dll and the original article is on
extreme tech so we're talking resolutions 150
times higher nano pixels so uh blah blah et cetera et
cetera researchers angle created nanopixels that measure just 300 by 300
nanometers so comparing this to a modern smartphone with a 400 pixel per inch
display we're talking yes 150 times more
now obviously uh we could create extremely
high resolution displays with this technology but there um there are some
other complications so for example we'd have to figure out you know what kind of
a display interface is going to be able to handle uh you know 1000
uh or 198 000 by 1200
or by 120 000 is that the resolution
that it does or can you do much lower it can just do up to that because i'm
pretty sure it can just do up to that yeah no it would be it would be up to
that depending on you don't have to push it that hard no i think they're just
they're taking like probably a five inch phone screen size and going well if we
can do by 1920x1200 then we could do this this potential
density we can do this yeah because i don't i don't actually see anyone really
actually pushing that resolution because it's ridiculous so so we'd have to
figure out how to even drive resolutions like that with we'd have to catch up in
terms of processing power we'd have to catch up in terms of display interfaces i mean maybe light based interfaces
could take us you know the next step forward but i guess my whole thing here
is for most stuff it's probably a moot
point for tvs irrelevant for
computers irrelevant and even for smartphones i would say irrelevant i i
have a really hard time telling the difference between the 2560 by 1440
display on the g3 versus the 1080p display on the one m8 one thing just not
that different one thing i was thinking about is sometimes it becomes actually more expensive to manufacture older
technology so if just everything starts moving towards this maybe it becomes
cheaper and they're not even aiming for that resolution they just aim for a way
lower resolution but just use this technology so maybe it comes to tvs they
don't need it but maybe it just i mean if the if the tech gets used for other
things like if it gets used for better passive 3d if it gets used for things
like adding pixels with more colors so
that we can like you look at um oh shoot who is it who does the the
fourth yellow pixel in their tvs is it sharp i think so i think it's sharp
anyway you you look at you look at stuff like that and what that kind of tech can
do to push things forward i can see it being used there but in larger larger
form factor devices i don't think it's that relevant the place that i really
see this being used though is um head
mounted displays wearables and then things like micro projectors so we've
seen some interesting stuff done with holograms so what's that what is it like
miku or what's that what's that japanese pop star character with the green hair
yeah i don't i don't i don't know the name but i know what you're talking about yeah yeah anyway uh you know i
feel like i feel like we should probably they've also done hologram for tupac though yeah yeah exactly so um miku
singer miku virtual virtual singer here we go
uh hatsune miku there we go the world's virtual diva anyway the point is they've
done concerts with her as uh as a
hologram much like they did that thing with tupac and i would see very very
tiny displays like this as an interesting way to
push that technology forward so if you wanted something like a wrist mounted
holographic projector thing we'd be talking extremely small
we'd be talking extremely small optics and we'd be looking for ways to miniaturize things as much as we
possibly could so that's where that's where i'm really excited to see this
technology going but i see a lot of the comments on this article they're like oh
we could have a 4k smartwatch i'm just like yeah we don't
need that who gives a crap at all
i mean if they could if they can make them transparent and we could have really neat stackable displays yes so
that we had a transparent watch that had display elements at every level and
like just i don't know there's like the thing i was talking about with the real watch yes with the digital
watch screen on top which can fade so you can see the real watch under it
cause i know a lot of people that are just like i want a mechanical watch because i like mechanical watches
i'm like yeah well there's other things that could be helpful so maybe if the screen illuminates when you get a
notification and then when there's no notifications it fades away and you have your nice mechanical watch that could be
pretty cool i got my wife going on the pebble did you yeah don't you like it uh
she she really likes it and she's um so
so a couple things number one is at her work they can't carry their phones with
them um she's in a pharmacy it's unprofessional
so what it's kind of cheating what having
your pebble if you can't get your phone with you at work it's just a watch man
so the point is she can leave her phone in her bag and she's not breaking any
rules but if something urgent comes through like i'm like where's the
where's the child i need to go retrieve him
and i don't know where to go because these kinds of things happen i don't
have to call i don't have to call and interrupt the entire pharmacy
i can just text and then
she can go slip off the screen she has a moment or whatever and then the other
time it's going to be really useful is she's going on maternity leave um
actually starting today she's on uh short-term disability because of she's
got like the these shooting pains and she can't stand all day so she's on
short-term disability until her maternity leave starts and a lot of the
time when you're taking care of a baby so once she's on her mat leave um
you're just kind of all over the place dealing with the baby you're not
necessarily keeping track of your phone so she has a watch on her strap
something to yourself it's a waiter then it's uh it's easier
for me to get in touch with her because i had a really hard time getting in touch with her last time she was on
maternity leave for those of you who don't know um my babies do
uh in about three weeks so that's that's what's up as far as all
that is concerned someone said i'm gonna break this laptop
i have no idea what they're talking about and another person said that once the 4k watch shows up you're going to be
super excited and i think you're wrong you're totally wrong how many cares did
i give about the g3 and it's high resolution screen go ahead
watch the review that's how many cares i will give about
the 4k watch boom i've had a few more people watch my 792
thing oh yeah everyone likes it so far
speaking of which you know what let's let's let's go let's go hate on
microsoft for a little sure so let's start with microsoft pulling Windows 7
support in six months this was originally posted by dietrich w on the
forum and the article here is from business insider it's not it's uh yeah well
okay it's not really pulling support i still call it i still call on
this because we're not gonna get directx 12. no which is yes
so i'm not disagreeing with you on that point at all okay it's just not so we're on the same page yes you just you can't
properly say that they're pulling support because they're not
not supporting directx 12 is especially if they're out of one side of
their mouth they're going to say yeah we care about the pieces
yeah we do this except we're going to like okay
it's been shown time and time again the way to support gaming is to have a large
platform of installed users for a game developer to target
that is how you support gaming you do not support gaming by forcing people to
buy a new os on hardware that would otherwise be fully capable of it in
order to take advantage of a new feature that is how you get absolutely no one to
give a about your new feature that's what you achieve by doing that
so that's why i'm mad about this from a gaming perspective but anyway they are
continuing to provide security updates until 2020 january 14 2020 or something
like that so yay for business also business customers who pay for extended
support can continue to get general updates which to me is like i get it
i understand why the business model works that way but i'm still upset that
you're developing all this stuff and then you're just not giving it to us not
giving it i wouldn't be surprised at all if someone creates some sort of module
where you can get those updates
i don't know anyway not that that would even be legal or right or anything i'm
just saying it might exist uh i think timing for different things is fairly
interesting because we just read something about Windows 9 which is where they said first half of 2015 probably
not as soon as january 13th
yeah so they're going to drop performance support for it and let you
squirm for a little while and then release Windows
9. i bet you that's what's gonna happen because they're trying to be like yeah
we're trying to capture Windows 7 users so they're trying to chop you off and
then give you an alternative that you actually like instead of Windows 8 which
is trash so there's that well let's not be fair
let's not call it trash let's call it
refined garbage not well that's
that's not better compact waste it's not
waste i mean there are good things about it you know there are good things final
transfer and the the
nothing else there must be something else it's good
at performing it performs well i hate that arrow's gone yeah i hate that flat
i think it's ugly i think it's Windows 7 is beautiful yeah it really is um even
the start button is like dude why is the whole thing white
yeah because it's not really a start button that's why the whole thing's white
yeah okay so let's okay i i'd like to say that we're gonna
go easy on microsoft for a little bit here it's funny i got called like the
ultimate microsoft fanboy by someone on like my surface 3 review
and i was like really your service 3 i know right what it's like people can
decide that i've sold out no matter what i say
didn't you rip it apart i could be i'd be like
you know what's garbage minecraft and people would be like yeah i'm oj
why do you like minecraft so much yeah i bet notch gave him five thousand dollars
to say that anyway so this is a big problem this is
just unbelievable uh original article here on forbes we're getting more and
more of our gaming news from forbes we were even talking about this a little
while ago where i was like what is forbes doing card reviews i know and no
it's like okay article in this article he goes like yeah i
think games are fine at 30fps and i'm just like yeah why is form why does
forbes say even have news well i thought other than that the
articles right right here personally i can tell the difference between 1080p
and 7720p as well as 30fps and 60fps but
i don't really care in the past i've raised the ire of the internet by
suggesting that 30fps was better for some games and opinion that i stand by
well i don't care about you yeah so anyway the point is uh blah blah blah
resolution gate or whatever everyone wants to call everything something gay
it's very goofy um so
anyway xbox marketing chief harvey eagle and that should be your first clue
marketing chief if you had to market the xbox what would
you do other than downplay resolution and graphical horsepower
marketing chief didn't deny the spec differences but argued that it is really
hard to tell the difference if you put third-party games side by side that are
running at slightly different resolutions or frame rates now
to be clear um 1080p and 792p or even 900p and 792p
are not slightly different frame rates also there are resolutions or
resolutions rather also there are other issues here the fact that you're not
running at a native resolution means that the image is not as crisp
it means that you have to interpolate which is bad it's terrible anyway if you
put the blah blah side by side unless you're using a screen that's more than
60 inches big i defy you to really see the difference i personally struggle to
see the difference
i had a debate about this with someone and one of the points that i brought up
was that we seem to be going backwards and people are talking about how on ps2
they're playing games at 60fps i'm like yeah that should be a standard
now that should we should not have to be having this debate at this point funny
because Android games are like yeah g3
let's run it at 1440p
no wonder you know what you know how NVIDIA has talked so much about how how
their their tegra chips and mobile gaming and the console experience and
all and all that with the mobile chips and they're they're making such a big deal out of that i mean you gotta you
gotta imagine how aware a company like
that is of the kind of crap that was going on with watchdogs and how
frustrated they are by the fact that they rely on these partners to create
great pc games no wonder
they want to just throw development resources at mobile Android guys that
are like like you just said yeah 1440p where they're actually trying to
push the envelope and where the technology is actually improving i hate
Android games though they just all suck
like i i was looking through okay i haven't looked at like any of the actual
ones on the store so that might help me a little bit right but i was looking
through my humble bundle Android games which i have a ton of the other day
because i was just bored and it's waiting somewhere i was like wow i don't
want to play any of these i know i like it all
we we need we need more developers to
figure out a way to make Android games much more profitable i mean square's
done it what do they charge 14.99 for their final fantasy remakes on Android
like like we've seen we've seen 15 20
Android games before but it's not until that becomes more commonplace and sales
of games like that become more mainstream that we're gonna see developers really invest properly in the
stuff that matters like storyline like i had a lot of fun playing uh reaper did
you ever try it no it's great on shield with a controller it's it's a total
blast it's kind of like a side scrolling level-based fighting game but there's
there's no depth to it at all it's the kind of thing that you play in bed while
you're drifting off to sleep and then like the last fight you you die because
you actually fell asleep yeah yeah it's that kind of game and until they cost
more we're just it's just the rules
you until you pay for something no one's gonna make it and the other way around
and um one thing i find to be a problem too is there's a lot of people developing things that actually look
like genuinely interesting games and then you start playing it and you're
like this shouldn't be on a phone don't you have a shield right now i do
yeah okay but like i'm talking more if i'm like waiting at a bus stop right
you know it's funny i have almost no games installed on my phone anymore i
used to have like at least 10 games installed on my phone at any given time
like but you play enough fruit ninja and you get to the point where it's just not
entertaining anymore yeah for me anyway one of my problems right now is that i
am using a moto x when i had my g2 i had a lot more games installed screen's a
lot bigger right i felt like it's it's so look at my thumbs
yeah i played jetpack joyride a lot more on when i back when i was using the ipad
2. jetpack joyride was pretty all right i and but the problem for me is that for
whatever reason my account didn't sync all my items and stuff so i had like the
gold cuddles and the gold like everything and i had like every jet pack
so for me whenever they were releasing updates because i refused to pay for
stuff like that yeah so i had actually earned through coins every single item
in the game that's what i was working on too i didn't pay for anything and then as they were rolling out new stuff i
would always have kind of new stuff to buy so it was my can game right yeah and
then my account didn't sync i upgraded to iOS 7 and all my stuff was gone i'm
like yeah i'm not going to do that again i switched phones i'm not going again
you take away my coin magnet you might as well cut off my balls
okay gtx titan two this was posted like
at like 4 10 or something an hour ago
someone linked this to us and i was just like oh god get it in the dark here is
the rumor an NVIDIA product going by the description of gm 200 a1 graphics
processor has been spotted this is kind of a new thing hey
what couriers yeah seeing the uh the documents because they legally they have
to say what's in a package in order to ship it somewhere so the couriers that
sit between NVIDIA's production facility
for their engineering samples and their testing facility are apparently picking
up on graphics card shipments so it's going to be called so it's called gm 200
a1 graphics processor um the a1 stepping signifies the
pre-production status of the chip and it will be upgraded to an a2 step stepping
before being pushed into mass production for the consumer market it is rumored to
feature over 4 000 cuda cores and a widened memory bus of 512 bits i find
that very hard to believe NVIDIA has avoided at every turn
going to 512 bit as often as they can
every time they can they've gone as wide as 384 and seem to be okay with it but
it is much more expensive to put a wider memory bus on a chip you have to do more
contact points you have to do more internal routing the design is much more difficult and if they don't have to do
it then they don't have to and with ddr4 coming so soon and a derivative of GDDR
based on ddr4 presumably in the works i don't know that they would need to
widen the bus that much more i mean it's not like we're limited on the current
generation kepler products by the memory bus that much memory overclocking
doesn't do a whole lot for performance so we'll see anyway so it's rumored to have
a 512-bit bus given the size of the 28 nanometer process this new GPU will be
very very large that's another thing is NVIDIA doesn't give up margin easily
so telling NVIDIA hey just for there's no there's no
competition that has a faster card than you but you should price this card at
9.99 just like the old titan and you should make the chip bigger
like they're gonna be like okay why
maybe we'll just do a black edition instead
like they did where it's the same chip and they can still sell it for the same
price so i don't know i'll be interested to see how that how that how that shakes
down ghost and i were kind of screwing out the dock a little bit i deleted a
lot of it but apparently not all of it we had four or five of that article and
we just titled it like gtx titan 3 gtx titan 4 gtx titan 5. we just changed
every single article to like gk310 gk410
gk510 1999 999 989 999 so it's expected
to launch uh in uh in the first half of 2015 which is
probably a pretty safe bet so we'll see how that goes i haven't heard anything about it uh
what i can say is that and i really okay
to be clear i do not think it's related
to titan ii i mean the fact that they're shipping a1 silicon allegedly between
testing facilities means it's nowhere even close to hitting the market but i
actually have a meeting with NVIDIA on monday i'll be flying down to san fran
so there's been it'll be interesting to find out what that's about there's been a lot of rumor mill stuff going around
about NVIDIA lately they're being really cagey about this so not only am i am i
um like they wouldn't even tell me what the meeting's about at all they're just like
get on a plane i'm like okay
you have a meeting and i'm like okay may i know what it's about my wife has an
ultrasound that day and i'd rather not miss it and they're like i'm like can
you can you brief me over the phone they're like no
i'm like okay can we do a different day
yes oh so it was it was going to be on the tuesday and i moved it to the monday
oh so i can go to the ultrasound on tuesday but uh but anyway they won't tell me
what it's about at all and everything they tell me is embargoed until a date
that presumably is also embargoed so don't expect to hear anything about this
from me other than that i have a meeting with them and i don't know what it's
about they didn't even respond to my question
of like what's it about just just that's the best that's
definitely the best i love a video well i mean my contact there has been at
NVIDIA for like 10 or 12 years or something like that so he knows what's
up at NVIDIA you do not leak information it's like apple like if it's something
where he's allowed to tell me he will like he and i have a pretty good rapport
but if it's something where he can't he's told not to tell anyone nobody will
know and that will be how it is they are they are like they're they're
pretty crazy at apple sometimes even the engineers
don't really know what's going on it's pretty insane or at least that's
how it was when jobs was around all right so this
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non-memorized totally not memorized like
100 inaccuracy i'm the one who memorizes the talking points they're very precise
i'm the one who looks into you know like sort of are these guys legit are they
something like audible where it's really easy for us to endorse them because they
just got a great service and and normally i'm the one who kind of has to
do that stuff whereas with lynda.com taren was like
ooh i want to do the fastest possibles with the lynda.com integrations i love
them i've been using them for years so lynda.com allows you to learn all kinds
of cool skills you can learn programming skills you could learn photoshop adobe
premiere you could work on your dslr skills and it's just video tutorials by
industry experts that allow you to learn at your own pace and just study at your
computer and pick up new and interesting hobbies or even practical skills that
you can use and work so taran is a great example that i love to bring up because
his adobe experience has actually
ultimately that he started gaining from lynda.com has ultimately turned into a
full-time job for him and uh in my mind
hopefully hopefully a career because i think he does a great job of producing
youtube content and internet content and uh that's the kind of power that
something like lynda.com has and what's good about it is if you go to
lynda.comwancho you can get a free seven-day trial and check it out and
speaking of full-time jobs and stuff i know tons of people on the forum and tons of people in the community in
general are interested in jobs and computers particularly programming if
you're thinking about going to programming and you're in high school the co the courses you're taking are
probably not hard enough jump on linda and start learning some actual languages
it'll help a lot you'll have a huge leg up once you get to university and you'll
be able to work on stuff in your own time which is more interesting will
teach you more than your courses probably will be teaching you because your courses are probably out of date
but linda is not going to be out of date so there you go two strong endorsements
around here for lynda.com from people who have legit used it to do things that
they legit have jobs doing right now yep so there you go linda's kind of
fantastic pretty darn recommend it all right oh the last thing that i
should probably say not related to our sponsors for this week but actually 5'4
from last week um they weren't mad
surprisingly so for those of you who weren't watching last week uh 5'4 club clothing we had a
sponsor thing for them and i butchered it i got the pricing wrong i got i think
i got the i think i got the uh the uh the offer code wrong i got the value of
the clothing that they send you wrong i got the special offer for that
like i got everything wrong but apparently apparently so many of you
were like oh yeah this looks kind of cool and signed up that they're just
like yeah no it's cool dude fine
at least you said like some words i guess cool all right
yeah at least at least you had like our logo at the bottom of the screen
fantastic oh so okay so let's move on to this
topic that actually hits pretty close to home for me so lg's new wearable is a
child tracker okay one it's butt ugly and they need to get smaller
yeah it's absurd you can't put that kind of thing how big it is on the girl's wrist mainly i know this is ridiculous
these need to be barrettes or they need to be like they need to be
something the kid feels cool wearing um that's the kind of thing that they
need to be they need to be they need to have at least a two to three day battery
life i mean we're talking if a child's missing but potentially being moved
around very quickly or there's something interfering with the signal you need to
have a few days to potentially get a lock on it um so there's this technology
needs to advance before it's actually that useful and before it's the kind of
thing that i would buy but as someone who has lost a cat as someone who has a
child and would worry about losing them has not lost child though i have not
lost him yet um i would buy this and i would put it on
my kids i see a lot of people freaking out over this and this is the kind of
thing that i would go no this is not okay blah blah normally
but it's a very obvious device your kid knows what it's freaking for and look
how old the kids are okay but i'm talking about giving them barrettes and
stuff so that's what i would buy that's fine i'm
my main point is look how old the kids are in this i'm not targeting this at
like 17 year olds well yeah no that's ridiculous that's that's what i'm saying
a lot of people think are like oh you shouldn't be able to listen to your kids conversation i was like the kid's like
seven yeah so the way it works is the kid can press a direct call button to
contact a pre-configured number and if the kid doesn't pick up an incoming call
from the parent's number within 10 seconds the device just puts the call
through and then lets the parent listen to what's going on and people who are
upset about that again they don't seem to understand who this is targeted
there's nothing my six-year-old should be discussing that i can't hear
it gets different once we're talking you know 9 10 pre-adolescent type age where
yeah where they have privacy but if they're
at the age where they're still you're still you know sitting supervising them
bathing in the tub with all of their siblings
i mean what's and like
i don't know and like the tracking thing yeah maybe at a certain age they need to be
able to kind of just take off not at six
yeah not at that age they they shouldn't be on their own and i mean this is the
kind of thing that 100 i would buy someone's like oh my god
what if the kid is asleep have you ever heard of a baby monitor
it's like so much more intrusive than a baby monitor i mean so much less intrusive than a baby motor would you oh
yes or no because it's like strapped to the kid yeah but the baby monitor has a
camera on it not always i have just an audio baby baby monitor oh okay yeah
yeah mine's actually awesome i don't know i don't even want a baby so i don't know
i actually um oh i forget what it's called i think it's called like the memo
or something baby i don't know i fully understand and
would be agree with and totally be on the side of the people that are freaking
out if it was targeted in a very stealthy manner at an older age group
but is it a totally different totally different
conversation that's like very young that's like the boyfriend tracker that's
that gotta pull off the google play store i'm not okay with that not okay
with boyfriend tracker not okay with girlfriend tracker not okay with like my
son is 17 years old tracker all that stuff is stupid but when it's like a
six-year-old kid or this this is cool so
this is uh this is the memo i actually pre-ordered this and basically what it
is is this their marketing is just just just horrendous though i'm sorry i'm
going to interject for a quick second we were talking about text messages from
crying out loud 500 prepaid cards to take a quick survey about your call with
a telus customer service rep unbelievable i haven't even had one ah
like this is ridiculous i haven't had a call with them in forever uh tell us my
isp just randomly sent me a text message we were talking about how that's bull crap i've been saying about how i get
them all the time now his isp and his phone provider yes sorry yeah both um
anyway so you are a great parent for buying our product i hate this kind of
crap but it it it is actually really cool so it lets you monitor their their
breathing temperature and stuff like that and it's just uh
it's just a onesie that they wear yeah we saw this at um ces right and it had
what was it galileo or something i don't i don't remember it was one of the Intel
little microchips in it which is pretty cool so uh i i plan to do like a review
of it or something when the new baby lands that's cool i should follow up on
my order because the baby's coming soon and i remember doing the math and it was
supposed to arrive in time so i love when you check your smart watch because you do it so officially
oh well the the issue is that okay here this is my one complaint about the
pebble steel is that it tends to sit here on my wrist
with this buckle in the middle and it like not in the middle off to the
side even though i've shortened this side as much as i possibly can so i
often have to kind of give it a little shake so the whip does two things
because that illuminates the back light on the pebble yeah and it puts it in a
better position for me to read it that makes sense it just looks so official every time and the reason i look at my
watch so often is because i don't just want to know what time it is i also
check to find out what the date and month is because i often forget these
things we're having a conversation that day when you work so much
sometimes you just focus too much on the thing at hand and you have no short-term memory anymore what was that video i
just filmed i'm not sure oh one of the uh one of the ncix higher ups uh came
into the studio today when we were filming and he was like Linus what do
you think of the lenovo x1 carbon and i'm like i don't know
what is it and he's like well you did a video of it i'm like really
did i oh if you see the video then you'll remember and you'll be able to talk
about it but like probably not no no no i don't remember i'm thinking about it i
i won't remember but if someone's like look you did the video i'll be like oh
yeah here's a bunch of extra stuff i can say but yeah i don't know all right so
let's play hot or not
and i am i'm putting a bit of a different spin on it than you might be
expecting um so hold on a second what's that site
called speaking of no memory straw poll there we go
hot or not and we are gonna have three options
hot not slick
okay so here we go
but you guys have to look at it first don't vote yet
because everyone's just gonna vote for you and i do legitimately want an answer
here the new in-win s frame so it's a limited
edition for sale mind you they said that stupid pipe one was limited edition
first it was limited edition then it's like limited edition of each color and
we're gonna do a bunch of colors and then now they just kind of still seem to be around anyway i don't know how
limited any of this stuff is but limited edition up for sale basically this is a
new case construction concept that has a single piece of aluminum
folded over and over again so bent bent
bent bent something that i personally have an appreciation for so my tj07 i
love that it's a single unibody piece of aluminum for the top front and bottom um
although this one is a little out there looking for me i prefer more classical
style design so basically they fold it fold it fold it and then add two slices
of tempered glass i love that glass
needs to be a more prominent design
material or like a more frequently used design material for computer cases
versus acrylic because acrylic is poopy and then there are carbon fiber areas
for cable routing this is a good view of it right here so you can see how this
piece is folded folded folded folded folded the motherboard tray mounts right
here and then there's also a demo build here that was on display that you guys
can check out with with liquid cooling so here's what i want to know twitch
hot or not here is the link the official
straw poll link i'm just gonna paste these a few times here so you guys can
get your votes in
so what do you think um i'm watching votes come in
what do i think about the case you're just watching your ego come in is what
you're watching pretty much actually so what do i think about the case is
that your question yeah oh god or not
i think it's very cool that it's a solid piece of aluminum i think so wait hold on hold on hold on
so cool would be not then
i think it's very something that's cool is by definition not hot i think it very
i think it's very hot that it has a solid piece of balloon okay sorry sorry
um i think it's very cool it has a solid piece of aluminum i really appreciate that they actually use glass
um what i don't like is that it's if you
take the one piece of glass off it's like a glorified test bench because of
how open air it is right
the guy that posted the thread brought up the idea that like you can't look at
this like a performance box right look at it like an art installation i don't
that's not his exact words but that's essentially what he was saying um and
that's an interesting idea but the thing is just gonna like it's not gonna be an
artist installation for that long because it's just gonna be a dust hammer and if i was gonna have something really
that i thought was beautiful and and and an artsy i would probably go for a desk
computer i'd go for a nice tempered glass top a desk computer
and it's filtered intakes and it's pretty aggressive
to be a fancy artsy you know what i mean and then my other
issue is that there's nothing that really matches it yeah so the tower
looks like what it looks like and then the only way to have something kind of similar looking i mean i guess you could
go Corsair mechanical keyboard
the black and white yeah with a black aluminum backing you could go uh you
could go i don't know thermaltake bmw mouse
um it's totally uncomfortable and way too heavy but like if you wanted
something that looked kind of but this is very but the bmw must have circles cut into
it that's true this is very strange it's very edgy almost again actually the
Corsair mouse yeah you could go with like an m65 or whatever which is a laser
mouse unfortunately i'm but it's more cut i'm pushing them to do an optical
like RGB mouse that's what i'd like to see like a lower end
sensor optical sensor but with high-end
features like RGB and all that kind of crap all right so most of you are saying
although it's actually very close between slick and hot so most of you
which obviously means that those go together nah not no it means that those are
bitter enemies because they're competing against each other no see we're grouping
up in one and two we're beating up on not
that's really not how voting works actually um so anyway um
most of you are no uh so most of you are saying slick with the rest of you saying
either hot or not and about it's about a two to one ratio between hot and not for
the in-win case one thing that's going to be a problem is it's going to be
expensive yeah it's going to be extremely expensive really expensive the site that's estimated how expensive it's
going to be is known for being totally not right but it's still going to be
really expensive all right so we've got a few more rapid
fire topics here so there's a police dog that was trained to sniff out hard
drives and memory cards this was originally posted by johnners on the
forum and it's a hexis article i got kind of a kick out of this
so this is thoreau
and uh the idea is to find technological
jackets gadgets which could contain child
pornography so they want to find uh child porn traffickers is there a
specific smell to child pornography no but there's a specific smell apparently
to these electronics and i think that's pretty darn cool
you know dogs continue to be amazing although i'm not stoked for like every
single piece of electronics i have being individually searched through every
single file when i go through the airport well okay yeah
desktop sales are apparently no longer in decline this was bound to happen
eventually because the desktop is not dead
and it's just not mouse keyboard monitor usage experience is not dead it's just
they're not getting as fast anymore and what he just said
they are so much more reliable now than they used to be i mean
it used to be you didn't even get solid state caps on a server grade motherboard
yeah you were still getting electrolytic capacitors look at how many successful first boots you have now compared to
before the huge very important rule used to be make sure that you um don't put
the side panel on your computer bad luck to screw in the side panel and now it's
like you see it doesn't matter everything is gonna
yeah so anyway they are no longer declining according to gartner and i
believe there was one other analyst firm that was saying that uh they aren't
declining although they didn't quite agree on exactly how much how much it's not
declining but it's like a very very very very very minor decline yeah i mean i i
i hope that this is good news for the pc industry in general not just for the the
desktop pc because i don't think it was going any i never thought it was going
anywhere anyway but i i hope this is good news for the health of the pc
industry now once things have leveled out and it's not this market share grab
and race to zero i hope we see more expensive products and hold on a second
i'm not asking for gouging but what i'm asking for is higher quality
from your products yes i'm i'm asking for i'm asking for companies to see the
opportunity that someone like apple has seen to deliver premium products that
are just legitimately better than the other ones that are out there i think
the blade 14 is a fantastic example of this um
funny funny thing as much as i appreciate you guys posting all over
razer's like twitter and facebook and everything i don't legitimately need
razer to give me a blade 14. it's fine i would love to have one but razer's
policy with systems is that they don't give out review units and that's fine um
so it is what it is and it's i i don't i don't need it that badly if i did
i could probably save my pennies it would be for quite a while and i could
probably buy one but it's just outside of my price range and that's okay i have
an excellent laptop that i'm very happy with and i'll continue to use this until
it dies which it might be dying since the water incident i've been getting
some blue screens so
it works for now though and something can sit blue screening for a long time
before it actually decides to die well yeah but i don't like losing work
because i do a lot of work on this laptop like auto saving through word
that shouldn't be that big yeah it but it's a pain in the butt because like you
know how i manage my browser tabs and sometimes it doesn't remember my session
and so you're super annoying sorry to interject here but in terms of
remembering session when you when you close your browser and then like
something updates and forces a a browser open like flash it'll be like thank you
for installing whatever and then your your restore session is now that
freaking page oh my god
screw off i've lost so many important
things that way just like damn it i can't go into history for this because i
opened it like four days ago my god
yeah you only keep a couple days of history
no it's just like i don't remember exactly what it's called like i don't remember exactly what was
important i just remember there was important things and going through all
that history would be ridiculous all right we've got a couple more rapid fire
topics here so uber hamburger has posted
this vr room technology that you guys should probably check out the video for
it's pretty freaking cool this is definitely one of those things where it's like yeah version much higher than
this yeah needs to be a thing yeah but they've got
a great preview here at the very beginning where the guy's walking around
in a room like a projected room so you can see the flickering that the camera
is picking up but it's it's 3d so he's wearing 3d glasses and then he's got
tracking points on this device he's holding as well as the glasses that
allow him to walk around the virtual room and like look under things and walk
around things sort of i mean if you walk into the wall with the projections yeah
on it then that that's a problem he's yeah he's seeing through the
glasses so he can actually see if he's gonna walk into the wall or not he's
saying that it's so immersive that they've actually had problems with
people coming into the room walking around in it for a few minutes
and then not being able to figure out where the exit is
so their system for this is that when you touch each of the walls the one with
the exit door makes a noise so that you can go find the door because otherwise
people just get completely disoriented it's pretty cool and uh they're
completely immersed in it that's cool and then the last topic that i have
today is there's a watchdogs mod
i'm worried you're gonna go to this one oh actually i guess there's one verizon
claims netflix is the one causing internet congestion um apparently they
actually have like really solid data yeah so where they're legitimately
trying to make the isps look bad by choosing crappy roots yeah
that's not good that's that's sort of terrible like verizon sucks but that's
still not good yeah so there you go
too too hot for tv you're gonna not want that to go yeah i know i know i know so
so basically there you go that's uh that's aiden pierce
with this particular watch dogs mod
that makes sense and he paused it at the exact right second
good work yep that was about to get a lot a lot less uh safer work
than it than it was right there so
that's pretty much it oh no i have one more thing so you guys
still have a little bit more time um but i'm amazed at what the response has been
to this uh we have a campaign going on teespring
right now to get your commemorative highlander shirts and 130 of you so far
have uh have bought highlander commemorative either american apparel
crew neck shirts uh gildan heavy blend hoodies or gildan long sleeves so these
are the three different options available i'm personally
maybe gonna get a hoodie i already have a shirt because i actually attended so i
already have this exact shirt but uh yeah if you guys want one check that out
also tech syndicate has their own commemorative highlander shirts so those
are a little bit different they're monochrome and then they have the logos
and the names of the youtube channels on the back and i think i saw a tweet from
jimmy a little while ago um i don't know exactly what's going on with that but i
think it's available soon if it isn't already so
it doesn't really matter who you buy it from the point is just i think they
wanted some tweaks made to the design so they wanted to put some stuff on the
back and then we wanted to offer not just t-shirts but a couple of different
styles so we kind of did our own thing with it and you can buy whatever you
think is cool and or not or just don't at all that's fine too also okay yeah
also okay i'm gonna get one for like my whole family and probably buy a sweater
for myself so that's me but you know oh yeah it's
teespring.com highlanderland yeah and if if you just
go to teespring.com you can click search custom apparel and if you type in highlander it just comes up cool so that
also works totally fine teespring's actually kind of cool it's different we normally use district lines and the way
teespring works is you don't actually have to pre-buy your inventory like we
do with district lines where we pre-print shirts and then we put them on a shelf whereas with teespring you do
campaigns like this where it's like okay we need a goal of 150 and then our
pricing from teespring is based on achieving that goal and then they print
them all at once and then ship them all once and saw one campaign i'll tell you
guys now the margin is a lot lower for us um
like these are costing multiple dollars more than the ones that
we have on um on district lines
but it gives us a little bit more flexibility in certain ways like we can
embed teespring links within our videos um i don't know like it's i don't know
it's american imperial instead of next level no america we're doing american
apparel on district lines as well um so i don't know i it doesn't allow us to
offer shirts on an ongoing basis as easily like on district lines it's
really easy for us to just keep when show stealth in stock because that one
just consistently sells like one a day or two a day and people just like it um
whereas this is very campaign based it's like hey we did this event here's a commemorative shirt we're never going to
print this again i don't know we just used both
yeah i think so i mean we don't have no exclusivity deal with anyone i'm just i'm just talking about why we do things
the way we do them in case people who watch our show are
interested in this could make sense for stuff like when we did resolution as a
number yeah and different events like highland i think resolution as a number
has staying power i think people will still think that's a funny shirt down the road
or maybe not i don't know
i always think i'm funny though so maybe i'm just maybe i'm biased you didn't
even make that joke which one resolution is just numbered i know i just think my
shirt about it is funny oh yeah okay
that makes sense i think we still have to do now with 30
more gen
if you make it look like a retro ad yeah yeah because that's legitimate joke
anyway i think we're done here gaming pcs um i am going to do a garage sale
today so if you guys want to stick around there's going to be potentially some cool stuff i don't know what
happened to it all so i'll probably have to go get it but uh it probably got
cleaned up yeah thanks thanks for watching the wine show guys peace out
see you next week yay bye
oh it's broken oh no there we go yay
we should just have an outro one um yeah but then i use up a scene i only
have 12 next split
they should have more scenes
i don't know now with 30 more scenes
we should do this
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