The WAN Show : Win 8 banned on HWBot, and SPACE GLASSES with GUEST Chris Pirillo - August 23, 2013
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2014-05-07
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welcome to the W show guys we are in
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HD woo 2013 I know right it's like we've
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caught up to the entire rest of the internet and uh actually here I should
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be monitoring here I don't oh what only one of them is plugged in because we
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have relocated the entire setup of all
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the gear and everything and we're sorry we're a little bit late but we did end
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up sort of having some technical difficulties we only forgot one small
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adapter which for anyone who's ever relocated a bunch of tech crap one small
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adapter is not too bad it's not bad and unfortunately I have no tech gear at my
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house anymore it's all at lus Media Group headquarters so we don't have
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anything but what we do have is a fantastic show for you guys today so if
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you've been sitting on the twitch Channel then you'll have probably seen
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this already in the video introduction that we upload to Youtube that I
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normally record locally locally and then upload but at any rate Windows Live
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sorry do it live do it live ah Windows 8
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is no longer permitted on hardware bot you can't Benchmark competitively on
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Windows 8 so we're going to tell you more about that later uh space glasses
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space glasses they're crazy you they can simulate things that you touch in midair
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are you the only one calling them space glasses no the link is to space glasses
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look space glasses website I didn't even notice like I was looking at the company
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name I was watching the videos about it I was like where did he get Space
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glasses from space glasses although what's funny about their company logo
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and it okay okay this is okay okay no let's get to our topics first and then
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we'll talk about that later but remind me Maxwell is is rumored to release in
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quarter 1 of 2014 which might make NVIDIA look a little bit scared at the
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whole volcanic islands thing coming out because remember guys the way that AMD
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and NVIDIA control information if there's a leak they wanted there to be a
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leak pretty much they're so tight about that stuff so if they're leaking hey we
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got stuff coming it might be because they
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want to talk about how you should probably not quite run out and buy an
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AMD graphics card just yet please uh so that's that could be very interesting
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the graphics war is heating up again it's exciting um speaking of exciting
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things if you are Microsoft you are either excited or not excited Steve
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Balmer is retiring he's giving an awful
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long lead time so he's saying sometime
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in the next 12 months he will be retiring um but I mean that's
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appropriate given that they haven't picked a successor yet and you know it's
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uh you got to respect the guy for being willing to stick it out as much as an
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entire year more y uh before just sort of leaving them defend for themselves so
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we're going to have more on that soon but before we do that let's kick things
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up a notch with the intro which I will have to lean over
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here to do
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so guys uh last week was a bit of a fiasco with our whole Squarespace thing
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lot less time than the older WordPress based ones so uh guys you're going to
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want to check that out so without further Ado let's get into it hardware
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bot banss Windows 8 benchmarks due to RTC issue so basically if you decrease
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the base clock and increase your multiplier we should start with some
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background because not everyone's going to know what a hardware bot is okay okay
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so hardware bot guys is sort of the governing Authority on competitive
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computer benchmarking if you haven't heard of it before go check it out hardware.com and what they do is they
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catalog and give Awards to the people who are really at the top of their game
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it's kind of like the um the uh the feal
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standards and measurements whatever those guys are in that South Park
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episode with the giant turd so they oversee all this stuff uh even if only
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the kinds of people who you know are really into computers just like kinds of
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people who are really into turd size might actually care about it they
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dedicate a an unbelievable amount of effort into making sure that
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everything's fair and everything's on the up and up which ain't easy with
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anything digital because all these
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overclocker guys so easy to spoof things they're tuners and Tweakers and Geeks
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and hackers and you got to be sort of
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fighting that while helping them to anyway okay so that's hardware bot so
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what's an RTC the RTC is the clock in Windows so
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it's it's keeping track of time and if that isn't properly running things can
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get really really messed up so there's a lot of things that rely on RTC backups
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rely on RTC benchmarks some benchmarks not all benchmarks rely on RTC um
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anything scheduled applications can rely on RTC so if you play um like if you
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ever played older Windows 3.1 games like I had this one game called Goose where
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you were like a little like tank and you were like andway it was good I liked it
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um what happened was my family upgraded our computer and all of a sudden the
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tank went so fast I couldn't do anything because that application was not taking
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time from the systems r TC it was actually just running as fast as the
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processor could possibly run it and okay
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thing so RTC is good yeah we like it okay so the problem has to do with
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certain Intel platforms and Windows 8 so
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the base clock is how the clock speed of your CPU which should not be confused
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with the system clock that's running
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because that's what was happening in that old Goose thing whereas the time for the application was derived from the
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clock speed of the CPU which is totally wrong now crazy it's insane it should
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have never worked that way but a lot of them did so the clock speed of your CPU
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is derived from the multiplier times the base clock so when you're increasing or
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decreasing the base clock what are we seeing here so what's happening is
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they're they're allowing for a bigger time window by decreasing their base
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clock but then not making their CPU Faster by increasing their multiplier M
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so the CPU has instead of say 5 minutes
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It'll have 5 minutes and 18 seconds to complete the Benchmark and in that
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amount of time a lot of benchmarks are like okay how much can you do in this amount of time yes so they give
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themselves 18 more seconds but they're at the same speed they were before right
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so they decrease their base clock increase their multiplier give themselves a bigger window and then
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achieve a better score now to be clear Hardware bought doesn't necessarily um
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think that this was being intentionally exploited at least that's the official
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word who knows what they know or don't know but they have found the error and
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the here's I mean here's the funny thing is you talk to even super knowledgeable
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people like uh you know I was talking to
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um Andre Yang and JJ from ASUS where my whole thing to them was well changing
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Bas clock doesn't really change performance and they were like well it
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can in certain cases so for all we know
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Bas clock can change performance in certain cases this is true but for all
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we know some of the perceived improvements in performance we were
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getting from base clock tuning might have been because we didn't have a
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second stopwatch running next to this
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other system and it's as much as a 7%
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difference 7% difference if you uh like
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you can get it higher 6% but yeah 6% you you can depending on how you adjust it
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and stuff you can you can adjust that difference a little bit so depending how
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much you're underclocking the base clock and compensating with multiplier you can move around how much of a difference it
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makes so what you could do is if you were intentionally exploiting it you could actually tune it so that you beat
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someone else by like half a percent so
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that it's believable looks reasonable
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but yeah very very fascinating and you
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know you look at an issue like this and you get to kind of Wonder well who's I mean whose problem is it to fix this
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exactly yeah yeah like apparently the changes were made so that Windows 8
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could be put on much lower power devices um it's it's it's a lot easier
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to run the new RTC than it used to be so
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different processors and all that kind of stuff can do it much better and the thing there is that how easy is it going
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to be for Microsoft to patch this when they still have to
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enable you know whatever other devices
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whether it's you know um super low power Intel has Wheel based chips or they're
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probably using the same technology in RT so they're going to have to probably adapt it for ARM or they're going to
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have to run two separate clocks it just gets really awkward right I mean the
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idea of RT and Windows 8 is that aside
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from x86 compatibility they're supposed to be and then how much do you expect
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Microsoft to really invest estim this too that's that's one thing that came up to my mind right away was like okay it's
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a whole bunch of Niche overclockers which I love but does Microsoft care
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that much like they've obviously been moving away from game but we don't know
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what else this affects I mean for all we know this could affect um simulations of
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oil pipeline drilling y or something like that so if something like that
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comes in they'll get I think more pressure than they will from the overclocking Community yeah definitely
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the overclocking Community is uh you know awesome but not that big we we love
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them yeah what can but what can we say so um our scheduled guest for today is
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Locker gnome or Chris pillo as uh depending on at what point in history
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youve followed him or how closely you'll have probably heard of him though he's
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one of the pioneers of tech videos to to
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put it to put it mildly so I'm I'm just tweeting him right now and finding out
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where we're at on that because I don't think we managed to get a uh a test call
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going today so hopefully we're going to get that going pretty quick just wanted
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to bring that up and our next topic should we jump right into EA might as
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well I yeah might as well EA moment we need like an intro
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thing for this so that we can like really do it
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properly I mean they didn't do anything bad this week they didn't do anything
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bad so our source for this one is Escapist magazine and like you know they
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don't they don't know what to make of it we don't know what to make of it EA
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offers full re funds for unsatisfied
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origin customers now my first reaction
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to this was I was like okay it's
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Escapist so they're probably trolling EA because EA is offering refunds on Origin
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which is free or something like I mean that's the level of stupidity we've come
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to expect from these guys but
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no that is not what they did so it's supposed to be a benefit over like
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physical retail so with physical retail you buy a game you try and return it no
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no not not a PC game because it has a license attached to it but I mean a big
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part of that is because that digital license is is cuz I mean you used to be
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able to return games back when it didn't have a serial number attached to it that
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was like you know a one-time use battl net account that now all of a sudden the
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serial number means nothing yeah back before that you could return them so
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it's actually the the digital rights that are making it so
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that retailers can't take games back and from my perspective I'm looking at a
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digital piece of merchandise going well
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hold on a minute why can't steam give you a
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refund I totally could because they can remove it from your account and that's
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the only way you have to use this thing
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so if they remove it from your account they can take the key back and resell that key and I understand the you know
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you don't want someone buying a game to do a speedrun of it and returning it but
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I think EA has found a very nice balance
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here so they're calling it the great game guarantee it's only running on EA
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titles irony just weird no I understand it
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because how would you get a third party developer to to take a game back well
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what I was thinking is is you could you could you buy batches of keys I think
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this is how it works I'm not entirely sure but you buy batch because steam will run out of keys for certain games
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sometimes so I think they buy batches I don't know don't quote me on that but
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you have this batch of keys if you get returned you just put that back into
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inventory and resell it unless the
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license terms you have with the developer don't allow you to do that
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that's true yeah which could very well be the case so they're doing EA games
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only um they are allowing either 24
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hours after you first launch the game or
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7 days after you buy the title so they're giving you whichever comes first
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um and they're giving you that long to just say no I actually don't like this
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game at all you know because this I mean it's not the kind of thing where it's
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like oh you know I'm 12 hour into the campaign and maybe it's not the greatest
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thing ever if you're 12 hours into the campaign the idea is you buy it this is
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to protect you from oh it's not compatible with my graphics card or like
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you know Crossfire stutters all over the balls and you know crisis 2 or you or
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it's a Bad sequel or something you don't like it and you know right away you know
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instantly the idea is you're not stuck with it you can get a full refund I mean
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if it was like a launch day bug you could even return it and go you know
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what I still want to play this game but buy it later maybe I'll buy it when they
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fix the bug and I think this puts the right kind of pressure on the game
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developers too to stop releasing you
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know day one or day two or day three patches because now the pressure is
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going to be on the EA teams to deliver a working title at launch because
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otherwise they're going to take returns this is going to I mean this is going to
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indirectly make EA potentially a better
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game company because they're not going to be able to just be like oh well we'll
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just release it and then they're stuck with it hopefully it does that hopefully
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it does that it has potential to do that one thing that I will see it doing is Al
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the you know like I'm not a huge fan of origin origin in itself is I guess okay
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the main reason why I don't like it is cuz it's another freaking application that I have to run yeah origin plus
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Battle Log Battle Log oh Battle Log okay
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sorry I hate battle don't give me yeah um but like this makes it look pretty
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enticing because steam you have no ability to do this steam has summer
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sales you can buy things for $2 but steam doesn't have any ability and officially origin has one selling point
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that steam doesn't know one but it still has one but that's one that's one and
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are we getting I mean are we getting closer to digital I mean this is crazy
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where digital retail is behind physical
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retail for customer satisfaction policies isn't that insane where Amazon
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has a better return policy than steam yeah come on yeah I mean Amazon has to a
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lot of the times you know a lot for particularly items where there's some
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actual margin built into them they'll even ship a return label for you to ship
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it back to not only are they not getting your money for the transaction they're
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going to eat shipping back on it they're losing money on it whereas steam there
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is no shipping no they could even make it an automated system apply for refund
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within even if they gave you 6 hours you know if they gave me honestly I'd be
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happy with that I can usually figure out if I'm going to like a game in six hours yeah 6 hours after launch I think would
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even be fair but EA's gone above and beyond that they've said 24 hours if
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you're not going to get more than a full day's enjoyment out of our game then
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we're going to give it back if you wait till the weekend play it on Saturday and just go for gold you can beat a lot of
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games in 24 hours well I I mean I don't want to encourage people to do that not
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saying it's it's ballsy on EA's half on behalf to allow a 24-hour window because
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of that I agree it's not fair and if I like a game I'm going to pay for it but
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it's it's pretty ballsy and they're going to get a lot of people doing that not that I think it's right but they're
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going to get a lot of people doing that and that's frustrating I wish it I wish it didn't have to be like that I mean I
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I am I I'm like I'm like gushing about
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how greedy a is right now but like okay at the same time like steam's great I
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love steam compare them to valve and Blizzard at this point though yeah I
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mean look at blizzard who could be more Draconian than blizzard about no you pay
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you own I mean look at how broken some of
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the stuff they've done over the last while is and no you pay you own that's
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it so I uh I I I love this Diablo 3
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launch imagine how many returns they would have gotten for Diablo 3 launch I
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know it's crazy so like the pressure is going to be on EA to like no no that
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sports game is like you know going to have the right stats for you know
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whoever anyway moving into Diablo I
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Diablo II Reaper of Souls expansion is
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coming we don't know when no but it's
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but it's coming so this was an article uh on joystick so I'm just going to go
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ahead and flip over there right now I'm going to zoom in on that there for you
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guys so it was revealed at Gamescom and
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there's actually quite a lot of information given about it the let's
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start with the less important stuff I guess so there's a new
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class um that is going to be called the
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Crusader so it's going to be kind of like a paladin which it's like who
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didn't see that one coming
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I I yeah I was kind of surprised it wasn't like in already I I thought they
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were going to have more CL anyways well they were saving it for yeah expansions
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I guess I mean but like really yeah I
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don't know it had very few classes at launch what was it four uh Warrior Demon
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Hunter Wizard and Rogue basically or
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whatever they call it now I don't remember anyway okay so they had a few
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so now it's like Yay one more class and so there's new endgame content there's a
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higher level cap uh there's new monsters there's a new story act but this is what
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I want to talk about the new loot system loot
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2.0 they've actually taken I mean look
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at this I'm going to say something positive about blizzard today too
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positivity day I know it's like the good news
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show uh so the new loot system is going
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to adapt the drops to be fewer so your
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inventory isn't just going to be full of stupid like you know leg of WS all the
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time I don't even know if that's a thing anymore but see I'm showing my old
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school Miss oh I forgot to change back to us so uh yeah not so full of you know
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stupid stuff anymore but it's going to be a fewer better drops more tailored
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more and in addition to that something
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to do with that you might actually want to use them because right up till now it
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looked like okay you were just kind of farming gold so you could buy things in
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the auction house which is just like oh
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which is like okay yes blizzard we know you get a cut out of the auction house
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sales and that's great for you but it shouldn't you shouldn't just be buying
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all the gear that takes the satisfaction out of a Dungeon Crawler what's fun
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about grinding unless there's like the thrill
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of getting the drop which is much lower when you fully expect to just be farming
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gold to bite out of an auction and how disappointing is it to get a drop that's
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like so legit and not anything to do with anything you
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can use so now you get to go and like sell it it's like it's like uh it's like
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you know Diablo I accounting Edition yeah instead of the actual excitement of
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crawling around and finding that thing that's that's that's that's so cool I
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mean if I just wanted to grind and buy something I could go do odd jobs for
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people in their yards I could get a tan I could work on my muscles and then I
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could go buy whatever sword I want CU that's basically what it was so I
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think it's really exciting that uh there's that oh oh and the new mystic so
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there's a new Artisan that allows you to reroll Stats on regular
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items which is interesting that's cool it's very interesting it's it's like you
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buy something or you you you get something and it's like oh this is like
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really good but it's like if I if only it would sort of slightly be different
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slightly be more different then that would be uh then that would be even better so so that's uh you know blizzard
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doing something right just a really weird combination
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um how's that coming uh talking talking to Chris on
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Twitter he's like uh yep yeah we got oh I don't have Windows readily available
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so he's uh throwing he's throwing coms on his Surface Pro and is definitely
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working on it now so uh uh add lonus
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Tech to uh
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uh so don't worry don't worry Locker Nome will be joining us it's just a
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matter of getting the uh the technical the technical things sort of worked out
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here so let's move into our next topic you want to pick our next topic we got
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Ben Affleck is Batman come on although as long as he
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doesn't do the like I'm Ben Affleck and I have throat
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cancer also I'm a superhero like thing I do that annoyed
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me so much yeah it actually made the movies like aside from that they were
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amazing and he Ledger is basically
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like the best thing to ever happen to Batman or basically my childhood ever uh
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oh I can I can be a Manchild I was like
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wait what I mean uh that movie par I
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loved Dark Knight because okay so dark knight one thing you just mentioned we
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should just talk about how great eath Ledger is for the next 10 minutes and just completely gloss over Ben Affleck I
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actually I saw this on Reddit this is like one of the only times I've actually
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been able to get a newsworthy item from Reddit uh cuz our forum is just too good
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at the moment but uh Heath fleder when
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he was casted as the Joker got a whole bunch of
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flak because of previous movies that he had done 10 Things I Hate About You was
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an awesome movie so whatever he he didn't look like he would
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be able to fit the role very well because of a lot of the previous roles that he had done so he got a ton of flak
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now that being said I don't think he's gotten as much flak as Ben Affleck but
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so there's B Affleck I mean I understand that Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a
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pretty boy and got the he's got the chin dimple yeah he's he's got the chin
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diple so we give him full marks for a
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chin I just that matters a lot on Batman I know but I don't see him as an
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Unstoppable badass and that and you're going to put him next to
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Superman so like Batman's already the redheaded stepchild of of that
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particular superhero team up and uh
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speaking of speaking of superhero team ups and redheaded stepchilds and Batman
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versus Superman um this out so this was
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a Vsauce video that I don't know if you guys have had a chance to check out but
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I I quite enjoyed it so there's an ad running here right now but uh oh wait
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I'm not monitoring at all am I think it's
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working I have no idea what the audio level is like but anyway the point is
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check it out it's on Vsauce 3 and it's what if Superman punched you and this
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came up um in no small part because of the upcoming Batman Superman crossover
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is like how helpless is is Batman let's go Batman versus Superman
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he loses cuz the stupid arguments have been like oh well Batman can afford
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Kryptonite if he has like Kryptonite that star things that he can throw at
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him how do you hit Superman with a star yeah it's not going to
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happen like he's super I mean honestly that's one of the things that's bothered
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me about Superman a lot how does he how well no it's that
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well he's too imba and then he he's like defeated by his own just it's not even
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like defeated by his hubris or his tragic flaw or anything like that it's
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like defeated by sheer utter stupidity but yeah that's the argument as to why
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Batman could possibly win is Batman's the opposite he always wins by his
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intelligence and planning and cunning you can be as cunning as you want but if
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someone like punches so hard that they
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could like hit the Earth on the opposite side of the world as you and the shock
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wave that hit you would like you know bust you up then I mean he's got laser
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eyes but what if he what if he never gets a chance why does Superman never
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get why does he ever get close to anything he should just laser eye
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everything I mean he's Superman so it's not like oh well his laser eyes might
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hurt an innocent bystander well then he should like lasery the tire of the car
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so perfectly that like right like there
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should never Superman's an idiot he always gets in terrible
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terrible situations Superman's a dumb jock yeah and and and Batman is the very
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intelligent cunning planning person so Superman just runs
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around and that's actually Indiana Jones that you were going for there you know
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what Indiana Jones versus either of them
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go what oh man see Batman always sets up
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situations if you set up a situation with all his blinging amounts of money
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and bought all the Kryptonite ever he might actually be able to win but if you
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put in a small closed room and had a fist fight which is apparently your
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description of it then yeah Superman's obviously going to
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win okay now if Batman is Ben
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Affleck I don't know then we're maybe giving Batman too
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much is what you're trying to say I I like Ben Affleck but I don't know if he
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fits this role now he can surprise me like Heath Ledger that would be awesome
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man Heath Ledger's awesome I I wish Heath Ledger wasn't dead me too it's not
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often that I kind of sit around going I wish someone wasn't dead but I I wish
26:33
Heath Ledger wasn't dead oh man I I I I
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have confidence in Ben Affleck I think he can do something I do like him but I
26:42
don't know it's not exactly his style of
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role yeah all right you introduce our next topic I got a thing going on here
26:51
all right one second so Oculus is looking to
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solve simulator sickness simulator sickness is not like motion sickness
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motion sickness is when um there's all this motion but you can't visually
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perceive things moving stimulator sickness is when you visually perceive
27:09
things moving and there's not all this motion so it has been giving people a
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lot of dizzy spells a lot of headaches people have thrown up stuff like that so
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they're trying to solve the problem um they haven't yet but they are working on
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it and they do think that they can grow towards the goal of at least reducing it
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to an incredible degree where it won't be that big of a problem because right
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now it is fairly common for people to get simulator sickness did you get it
27:33
when we tried out the Omni and the Oculus I did not but you didn't e no one
27:37
did right uh I of our group I felt a little bit motion sick but I don't know
27:43
if like it was it was at the beginning and then it kind of went away so I don't
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think it another thing for us though is that that wasn't fair we were
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moving oh okay cuz I thought about this
27:54
we were we were not sitting planted in a chair we were moving around
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and one thing that people have talked about is one of the things people have been doing with oculus rift is put out
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interesting experiments while they'll have people lay down and then have them
28:07
like fall in the game I see and then they feel like they're falling and kind
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of freak out a little bit um and that is going to be interesting
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cuz you're not moving at all but you're falling so your mind is going to freak
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out especially fast movement so if you whip around or if you're on a roller
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coaster and you go down and your body isn't moving your head is supposed to
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mess up so so we don't actually have the proper what I was thinking about with
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this is that I would join the chat too and then you can monitor through
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there uh that works okay sure okay um so okay
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on the other hand this could be great for guys like virtuix with the Omni
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which is the uh for those of you who don't aren't familiar with the virtuix Omni it's the omnidirectional treadmill
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that is intended to allow you to move around and walk around and run around
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sort of like running and gunning with oculus rift um so if it ends up being
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that you kind of have to move to use Oculus this is going to be great for the
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physical condition of Gamers everywhere and great for companies that want to
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make accessories for for products like Oculus so and not that Omni wasn't
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already legit but this just makes it so much more legit because if if you are
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someone who is afflicted by simulator sickness you can get an omni and solve
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that problem hopefully very very cool
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okay let's do one more topic before we uh we break for our sponsor break for
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Squarespace and then we're going to bring Chris pillo in after the break so
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uh go for it I've just got one more quick thing to do here this is another fairly short one so we'll try and keep
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it to that I can I don't remember exactly what it stands for it's like uh
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I'll try and find it but um I can has
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banned dotless domains Google was trying
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to get HTTP search no www.n.com
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and it hasn't happened yet there aren't any yet but they have preemptively
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banned them um this is apparently a
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really big deal I personally don't really care that much because browsers have this really good ability to auto
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Correct things so it's actually really not that big of a deal if you just type
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in search it'll find it anyways and that's dotless so I'm not too worried
30:18
about the exact domain personally um but
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apparently a lot of people are Google kind of seems to think it's a big deal
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but I can't and I can talks so I can
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does they are the internet Corporation for assigned names and numbers which is
30:35
kind of the driest thing I've ever heard in my life I remember that it was
30:39
ridiculous but I didn't remember exactly what it was assign names and numbers
30:42
isn't that big of a deal but internet Corporation I find hilarious um yeah
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okay you know what I've got uh I've got Chris calling in right now so we're
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going to go ahead and move to that and we'll do our sponsor break afterwards so
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uh yep I'm going to add slick to the conversation as well here so here we go
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yep and wherever he is there we go add
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friend and in theory we should be able to monitor things
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so here we go slick
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pickup hey y Chris can you hear us I can
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hear you hey hey that's fantastic so uh
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say hello to the W show I guess and if you could do a brief introduction of
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yourself for those who have been living under a rock and have never heard of you
31:31
that would be fantastic as well hello world I'm Chris pillo AKA Locker Nome on
31:38
YouTube although I guess formerly known as Locker Nome on YouTube since they've
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recently switched me over to my real name I am officially Chris Perillo and
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if anything I create videos on a daily basis revolving around geek culture not
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just technology but well beyond it if I
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did nothing but talk about technology I don't think I would be married and uh
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you know that's that's a good thing I think I'm happily married and turning my
32:08
wife into a geek we just recently started watching Doctor Who I I got her
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to watch Star Wars for the first time uh a few weeks back and we've documented
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the entire experience so for me it's about living a geek lifestyle and uh you
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know loving geek culture and so the videos that I produce tend to revolve
32:28
around that I'm just going to start out by saying that I'm very impressed
32:32
because um I have managed to get my wife
32:35
to watch Star Wars with me but she fell asleep during each movie so she's
32:40
actually only seen about the first third of each movie from the original trilogy
32:44
meaning she's only probably seen one Star Wars movie sort
32:48
of ouch yeah I I uh I had explained over
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and over again that she would understand so much more about me and of course the
32:58
jokes that I would make uh if she watched the movies and that was enough
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motivation to get her through it and she enjoyed them a
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lot that is uh that is fantastic and
33:08
that's very cool so for those of you guys who don't know how to follow Chris
33:13
he's available on Twitter he's available on YouTube I think he's probably one of
33:17
the easiest guys in the world to get in touch with because if you just Google
33:21
his name there's all kinds of great results speaking of which Chris on
33:24
Twitter the other day I saw a fantastic twe tweet of a picture of you on the
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front of a VHS cassette can you tell us a little about that yeah that was uh
33:34
during a brief run of hosting a a television show that on a network that
33:38
no longer exists and uh during a part of
33:41
that stint we this is of course back in the day when VHS was
33:46
state-of-the-art we recorded a in an afternoon's time how to how to use your
33:51
computer and this is right before Windows XP had been released and someone
33:56
found this VHS tape at a garage sale and took a picture of it I got a kick out of
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it it's it's kind of cute I've got a couple of them left I guess they're
34:03
antiques I mean I I I have VHS tapes but
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no VCR in the house or maybe I do somewhere I don't know it it could be I
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mean if you're if you're anything like me there's probably a VCR but it would
34:16
take you years to find it so now that's the thing about technology is it's fun
34:21
and it's interesting but it's outdated so quickly and it's one of the reasons
34:24
why like with my YouTube channel I've evolved to addressing more of geek
34:29
culture so like Star Wars is not going out of style anytime soon nor is Doctor
34:33
Who or or Lego bricks in fact Lego sets
34:37
appreciate in value compared to technology which usually loses value
34:41
over time so it's it's speaks very much
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to you know one of the reasons why I've taken the approach of of tapping into my
34:48
inner geek and letting my geek flag fly
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in social media and you know what's funny is I've not only is technology
34:58
more relevant moving forward from a uh from a dollar amount value perspective
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but I've also observed that it's more relevant um or sorry technology becomes
35:08
less relevant from a value perspective but geek culture it doesn't do that same
35:12
thing and what I've noticed is if you check out my YouTube channel three of my
35:16
four top videos ever in terms of views are unboxings and overviews of a remote
35:22
control fir Tru a remote control excavator and the parrot AR drone even
35:28
though I'm a strictly computer channel so to speak yeah you know I I had the
35:32
same Revelation uh some of my better traffic videos had to do with uh my Lego
35:38
sets my the Lego Death Star Lego
35:42
atat uh you Star Wars Lego geekiness you
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know and I'm like okay uh I need to be more of
35:51
myself one of the things that surprised me the most uh I went down to Science
35:54
World and they had a huge Lego exhibit and I started looking around and then I
35:57
noticed that everyone else looking around was about as old as me which was
36:02
interesting and like there was some kids there but the adults were the most
36:05
interested and then you go down to the Lego store in Vancouver and it's a whole
36:09
bunch of adults and a whole bunch of kids so it's it's one of those things that you can still enjoy when you're
36:13
older too y'all got to come down for Brick con it happens in October in
36:17
Seattle and it is amazing it is a Lego a
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festival really but it's done more for a Falls or adult fans of Lego and the the
36:25
structures that people make are just so fantastic like a scale model to Min
36:30
figures to of the Hogwarts Castle or a
36:33
full tower orth uh from The Lord of the Rings not the official set but like a my
36:38
own creation build I mean it's just it is so incredible to see the creativity
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that comes out of of people you know when you when you give them the right
36:46
tools and and that's the beauty of technology today is you know we're
36:49
evolving like with arduinos and you know really uh raspberry pies lowc cost easy
36:57
to use configurable moldable you know
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you can make anything that your mind can
37:03
handle right and you're not limited by the tool set in front of you and I I
37:07
look at I guess I look at Lego bricks for as non- Tech as they are in much the
37:11
same way as I do arduinos and in in raspberry pies they're building blocks
37:16
right can make something yeah where things are it's it's almost like we're coming full circle because in the early
37:20
days of electronics and Computing everything was DIY and then things got
37:25
kind of too complicated and the tools didn't really catch up to the point
37:29
where nothing it felt like nothing was DIY for a while there and then now we're
37:34
getting back into it with highly programmable things like Arduino and
37:38
with some I mean some of the cool DIY type projects that I've seen turned into
37:43
real products like I had um uh it's called The O2 amplifier and basically
37:48
these are DIY headphone amps that are just built by like a dude who designed
37:54
it and was like oh well I see a bunch of problems with the commercially ailable
37:57
products so I'm going to fix it outstanding I love it and then now
38:02
we're getting into 3D printers and stuff just being able to make your own things and mess around with your own things we
38:07
could be this could be the Golden Age of DIY because even when you were able to
38:10
build your own Electronics 30 years ago 40 years ago and it would be you know
38:14
similar to what you could buy off a shelf now all of a sudden what's always
38:18
been difficult is housings and tooling
38:21
hous and tooling can be 3D printing programming and all that kind of stuff arduinos and raspberry pies blah blah
38:26
blah blah blah you can build out of Les lesbo Lego and 3D
38:32
printing well you look at the the Microsoft talking about uh enabling 3D
38:38
printing by default in future versions of Windows that's pretty powerful stuff
38:43
but pretty Forward Thinking for them yeah but the problem is is that it's got
38:47
to be a lot more consumer friendly and it's just not there yet I've seen a a
38:51
few really amazing Kickstarter projects that would work in theory but the issue
38:56
I have with a lot of Kickstarter projects that have to do with technology is that usually the teams that have
39:01
great ideas suck on execution I mean you
39:05
look at you know potentially amazing things like the auntu phone which is may
39:11
go somewhere but didn't really make its Mark in terms of community backing um
39:17
you know there's there's sometimes a disconnect between the value of
39:21
technology and the consumer adoption of technology and whether or not they
39:24
actually see the value in something absolutely I mean I know we haven't even
39:28
managed to talk about any of our of our topics on the dock yet but I know you're
39:33
a star no no it's as much us as you and I'm about to derail us again so as much
39:38
of a Star Wars geek as you are
39:42
Disney you know initially I had a knee-jerk reaction and gagged but uh you
39:47
know I really have appreciated the way they've handled uh some superhero movies
39:53
um and and and certainly appreciated the
39:56
bringing on J.J Abrams appreciated the work that he's done Disney can Market
40:02
they can franchise and the they've come out and said they understand that fans
40:08
want them to go back to the basics think about the fans at the center of this
40:11
universe not necessarily the technology that empowers movies and special effects
40:16
and so I I think their heart is definitely in the right place they realize it's their game to lose and you
40:21
really can't screw up much more than the prequels although the more I watch the
40:25
prequels the happier I am with them so I'm I'm very very um I'm very positive
40:31
that Disney will treat the Star Wars franchise better than I think Lucas
40:35
could okay but look at what happened I mean okay I'm going to play Devil's
40:38
Advocate because I don't necessarily disagree with you but look at even
40:42
something that's an original Ip that they have like Pirates of the Caribbean
40:46
first film I I have no idea how many times I've watched that movie I've
40:50
completely lost count it got progressively so much worse because it
40:55
seems like oh come on oh at you're not going to tell me movies
41:01
three and four shouldn't have been one movie are you I well yeah I guess no I
41:06
enjoyed four I mean it was it was different but I I didn't not enjoy it
41:11
I've enjoyed every single Pirates of the Caribbean movie I enjoyed them but I
41:15
didn't rewatch them the way that I rewatched one and the way that I've
41:18
rewatched original trilogy Star Wars really that's I'm on the same level as
41:23
him actually I did really enjoy them they're really good movies but the first one was epic and the other ones were
41:28
just very enjoyable and for me it really felt go I found the third one more epic
41:32
than the first one I guess for Pirates of the Caribbean I I I liked the scale of the
41:38
third one like the epicness was there yes I'll give you that but it felt like
41:42
to me the problem was they they broke their own rules for the sake of epicness
41:47
in the first movie we exist in sort of a
41:50
pretty normal world except for this cursed ship and then it seems like it
41:54
just goes so to speak off the deep end
41:58
in the movies that come later and it's something that you know you look at the
42:01
really great franchises like Harry Potter Harry Potter for the most part
42:06
never breaks its own rules that it established right at the beginning it it
42:11
allows it to okay so here go ahead go ahead but but they're with Harry Potter
42:16
they were going from a script they were going from an overall Arc and I don't
42:20
know if they expected to do the same thing with Pirates of the Caribbean until it was found to be a commercial
42:24
success okay so Star Wars are we going to give them the benefit of
42:29
the doubt and go okay if they're going to say yearly releases and big
42:33
Productions every two years are they going to be working 20 years out on a
42:37
story arc I'm guessing that well maybe not story arc but they if if they are
42:44
faithful to at least adhering to the notion of not breaking Cannon then I
42:49
think they'll be fine but the moment you step outside that boundary like Star
42:53
Wars was okay A New Hope Was Meant To Be
42:56
A Standalone right in the middle of this 12 story monolith that Lucas had in his
43:02
head in fact recently at at a Star Wars celebration in Europe Mark Hamill had
43:07
suggested that originally Lucas was going to have the Death Star around
43:11
forever but he blew it up in a new hope uh and then of course brought it back in
43:15
return to the Jedi but originally it was just supposed to be one one Death Star
43:19
he had to make ches because he wasn't sure it was going to be successful so
43:23
you know I think he violated canon in
43:26
and of itself by going back and establishing a prequel or trying to give
43:30
you a backstory of Anakin Skywalker and who he was but I mean I wouldn't have
43:34
minded An Origin story for Anakin Skywalker if once again they hadn't
43:39
broken their own rules the force is it
43:43
surrounds us it binds the Galaxy together it does all these things it's
43:47
mysterious it's not medoran right right
43:50
okay so like I said Luc that's Lucas's problem Lucas he broke his own rules
43:55
okay but Lucas is not Disney
43:58
too what Lucas wants I think they'll
44:01
succeed so should we be more scared that he's a creative consultant or more
44:06
comforted here here's a movie to watch the people versus George Lucas watch it
44:11
on Netflix if you're finished watching battl Star Galactica in Doctor
44:15
Who okay I you know what I'm even gonna I'm even G to put that in my document
44:20
here so the people versus George Lucas I
44:23
haven't watched it although I do have a Netflix account I got it with my chomecast so my my dogs actually make it
44:28
brief Cameo at the beginning of the uh the video I dressed him up as Darth
44:31
Vader and Princess Leia but it was a a video that went viral a while ago has
44:36
nothing to do with technology that's what's popular again
44:40
again nothing to do with technology again nothing to do with technology okay
44:43
so did you have a chance to check out some of the uh things in the dock that we labeled Locker Nome uh I saw the
44:49
entire document and actually was it was intrigued greatly all right so why don't
44:55
we get into space glasses I want to hear what you think of this um the space
45:00
glasses.com versus Google Glass do they
45:03
have a chance um do you mind if I actually play this video for the viewers
45:07
so that they have a really good idea what we're talking about here you should
45:11
all right let's play this video cuz if you guys haven't seen this you are going
45:14
to have your socks rocked right off right
45:22
now boom oh yeah
45:29
I don't even know if the uh viewers have audio right now but I I don't think it
45:33
matters that
45:43
much unreal
46:02
I mean you got to be geeking out over that right there hey Chris you know it's interesting but yeah
46:07
let me see the final product cuz this is all Pie in the Sky to
46:12
me it's all shut up and take my money until you actually use it and then it's
46:16
a different story you know that's I think you know
46:20
okay I'm going to I'm going to just I'm going to pause this now I'm going to switch back to let's let's discuss what
46:24
we've seen so far because I think that's something that you and I are very much
46:28
on the same page about is that a lot of the viewers don't understand that it's
46:33
actually not all fun in games doing what we do and playing with the latest
46:36
technology you know I'd say a good three times out of four it just doesn't work
46:41
even well three times out of four yeah that's probably G that's probably being
46:45
pretty generous that's very generous I mean it looks great but dude that's
46:49
that's total marketing video that's like wow amazing total marketing video
46:54
they're also huge that was one of the first things I noticed is they're very
46:58
very large and really unsightly so I don't actually see that many people
47:02
wearing them especially they showed the professional environment where he shaking hands with all the different
47:05
people and they were basically introducing themselves uh verbally and
47:10
through the images that the uh what do they called space glasses were putting
47:13
up but in a professional environment do you really expect your boss to show up
47:16
with this giant headgear so let's talk about the culture of these wearable
47:20
glasses um first and then let's jump into meta's product versus and I think
47:26
their logo looks like meth it looks like meth it looks like meth anyway um so
47:30
let's talk about meta versus Google Glass and how that's all going to shake down so so
47:34
Chris do you expect it to be acceptable
47:37
to walk into a business meeting even in 5 years from now wearing a wearable
47:43
glasses technology where other people are not necessarily wearing them I mean
47:47
you know how stodgy people can be um are they going to be feel uncomfortable
47:51
because they feel like you're looking them up on Facebook while they're
47:54
sitting there talking to you and is that going to continue to be a stigma even
47:58
five years from now well you know i'
48:01
I've been pretty public in terms of my you know belief in as far as technology
48:07
goes it's going to be in personal wearable technology like Google Glass
48:12
technolog is becoming increasingly pervasive and I think it's a matter of
48:16
time before a good headup display or heads up display is integrated within
48:21
eyewear the challenge I think you have
48:24
even even Google has in fact um Russell
48:27
Holly who writes for geek.com uh
48:31
recently attended the I think it was a Moto X event it was a Google's own event
48:36
and he was told to remove Google Glass
48:39
so Google didn't even want Google Glass at a Google event and if Google can't
48:44
handle that I don't know how the hell they expect the average person to handle
48:48
that they have stated sorry no go ahead
48:52
uh they have stated though in the past that they they don't expect Google Glass
48:55
to be able to be worn every uh people were wondering like uh how
48:59
hackable it would be and all this kind of stuff I call [ __ ] come on whoa
49:03
whoa whoa whoa hang on so let me get this straight Google charges beta
49:08
testers out the yin-yang to have this
49:11
product and then says well we don't expect you're going to wear it anywhere
49:15
everywhere really that's the whole IDE
49:19
where's not okay and you know what if Google the only okay to me the entire
49:24
value of a wearable tech like Google Glass is that I do wear it everywhere
49:29
and that it actually becomes part of my life if my smartphone was my tablet then
49:33
I would use it occasionally the same way I do with my tablet the whole point of a
49:37
smartphone to me is it's always in my pocket I can rely on having it if I need
49:42
to use it as a remote control for my TV right now because I always have it and
49:46
it's always charged it's like priority number one when I go to bed isn't even
49:50
brush my teeth it's plug in my smartphone and make sure it's charged
49:53
for tomorrow if I am not wearing Google Glass all the time for a similar product
49:58
then it's it's lost the entire value to me one thing I found that was
50:01
interesting that Chris said was the the charge for beta testers that's hilarious
50:05
the the the price of the product is going to be so much less than what they
50:08
charged to beta testers and here's the thing I see someone wearing Google Glass
50:13
and like okay you have money and you kind of look pretentious I mean I have
50:19
yeah you know it's it's it's a social stigma right now because it people are
50:24
living on the bleeding edge and and I get it and it's kind of neat and I tried
50:28
it I I'm very I'm very happy to have tried it I was invited to the Explorer
50:33
program but it was just a little cost prohibitive I thought really am I am I
50:36
going to get my money out of this other than bragging rights for having Google
50:41
Glass and I just couldn't get past that I couldn't figure out how's this fit and
50:47
eventually costs will come down technology will become more usable uh
50:52
you know having it built into prescription lenses I wear glasses
50:55
happily wear glasses I think it will become socially
50:59
acceptable but the Norms today dictate that permission is not
51:05
implicit when you hold a camera up to someone's face they get uncomfortable
51:11
and by you have the right to be filming them at that time they don't like it and
51:16
I don't see people's desire for privacy necessarily actually changing in fact
51:22
the more it's been studied that the more connected people are or the closer that
51:27
you jam them in together actually the more they tend to try to isolate
51:31
themselves in fact it is less common to have a nosy neighbor in an apartment
51:35
building than it is to have one in Suburbia because people get so close to
51:40
the point where they're actually trying to separate themselves from each other
51:43
as opposed to trying to get closer and Snoop yeah I I just think that people
51:48
aren't ready for technology as much much as technology may be ready for people
51:52
there are still social boundaries that I would a great majority of the pop are
51:57
not ready to have violated if if they take the camera out and like Chris said
52:02
are able to integrate it into prescription glasses that look like
52:06
prescription glasses that's where I'm sold I don't want a camera in them at
52:09
all because that's just creepy and weird I want no camera I want them to look
52:13
just like prescription glasses but you just want augmented reality exactly yeah
52:17
you could probably sell me that I mean I've said to you quite a few times I am
52:21
in no way interested in the beta thousand stupid thing but I am totally
52:26
interested in Gen 5 gen 10 and person I
52:31
don't want to AR is definitely going to
52:34
work really well but it's not the idea
52:38
it's the execution and Google has a
52:41
chance but they're they're already Sid stepping a lot of those mores and
52:46
expecting society's going to keep up and there's one thing that you cannot change
52:50
with ease and that is culture yes so
52:54
let's go to actually that's a great segue back to space glasses and let's
52:58
talk about seg no I don't have a segue I I never got a segue
53:03
either very funny
53:06
man so let's um let's go back to let's
53:10
go back to MAA here um you mentioned
53:13
just now Google has a chance sorry
53:17
Google has a chance to make it happen do these guys even have a chance because to
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me the advantage of Google is nothing to
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do with the glasses themselves or even to do with the Android operating system
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or to do with a camera or processors or
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anything like that it's all about the ecosystem which is something that quite
53:35
frankly is there anyone other than Google or Apple who could replicate the
53:40
ecosystem that Google has yes young d404
53:44
in your chat rooms he I think he can pull it off because he just said Chris
53:48
pillo is the best guest on the W show ever with three three purple hearts
53:53
three purple hearts he put in there or she I don't know
53:57
point that out I think he or she has the chance of pulling it
54:00
off okay how about space glasses.com
54:04
this guy's Gonna Keep derailing
54:08
me so anyway I just wanted to say I'm W I watched the chat I didn't mean to De
54:12
derail you no I I think you're right and I think Google if anything Google's got
54:16
a lot of data and that's its biggest advantage over Apple Google is a a
54:20
horizontal player versus Apple who's a vertical player which is why I have a
54:24
big problem with anybody uh who dares try to walk into the Android versus iOS
54:29
argument because unfortunately that argument is it's outmoded it doesn't it
54:35
can't exist because I'm For Better or For Worse there are two completely
54:39
different Market strategies to the marketplace just like a Windows to OS 10
54:43
to Linux I mean you could talk about operating systems and compare for
54:46
Feature Feature for feature but's in so
54:50
depends on who you are Google has got the biggest advantage in terms of its
54:53
ability to collect data uh and and use that data to their advantage and and
54:59
unfortunately if you're not paying for a product and sometimes if you are paying
55:02
for the product you're the product yourself and that's what Google has it's
55:05
one of the reasons why Google created the inorganic social network or I'm
55:09
sorry social layer Google Plus which I
55:12
do happen to use on a regular basis um
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it was looking to get more data you know Facebook wasn't giving them the data
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Twitter wasn't giving them the data and Apple has almost zero data that it's
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willing to give out yep yeah true I actually have
55:27
nothing to really add to all of that because I agree 100% And it honestly it
55:31
kind of irks me I was a longtime iOS user because for me iOS was the answer
55:37
and honestly I still use my iPhone 4 almost every day just as an MP3 player
55:42
and to use a few apps and try some of the new stuff that's coming out so that
55:45
I don't get completely to the point where I don't even know how it works
55:48
anymore um and they're so different and
55:51
they're both so good that they're
55:55
different they're different approaches to the same Marketplace Y and and that's
55:59
really it's so difficult to talk about because for better for worse and hey I'm
56:04
a geek I'm just a different kind of geek I'm sure but people treat technology and
56:09
their choices for technology as if it was a religion what like your life really
56:15
revolves around this piece of technology
56:18
like let's talk about Intel versus AMD yeah come on really are we still it's
56:24
just it doesn't make any sense Protestant versus Catholic I mean go you
56:29
know Big Mac versus Whopper go you're okay well hold on a second I have
56:34
to defend the Whopper here because at least one day of the week is Holy in the
56:40
Whopper religion yes Wednesday when the Whopper gives back to you every
56:45
Wednesday oh by the way D PC Gamer asked
56:48
how old this kid was and this kid is
56:54
40 oh man and he loves both Big Macs and Whoppers
56:59
and you know what that's okay he loves both Android and iOS actually likes
57:03
Windows phone too you know what you guys
57:06
I got to step in here and I need to do a Twitter Blitz for Chris so we're going
57:10
to hit one more topic and I want you guys to hit us at linch on Twitter go
57:15
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57:27
questions for Chris we're going to have him Blitz through some questions for you
57:30
guys because uh as you said he is definitely one of the more fantastic
57:35
guests we've had I don't want to I don't want to you know diss any of our other guests but Chris you're awesome one
57:39
question I saw I didn't catch who who asked it but Christianity versus i7 I'm
57:44
gonna have to give this one I'm gonna have to give this one to the core i7
57:49
honestly done a lot for me
57:54
sorry I don't want to go into just now
57:57
that I've totally usurped the uh show I apologize I I bring you back to your
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regularly scheduled programming you know what no I'm going to we're going to keep
58:05
the religious debate going because if you can't see it does it exist LG has a
58:12
new display it's what it is it's a religious debate it's it's like no it's
58:18
Android all the way and anybody who doesn't believe is going to burn in hell
58:21
like really like are you serious so wait
58:25
you're telling me that I have to live by your choices okay I'm fine with that I'm
58:30
fine with living by your choices the moment you start paying my bills that's
58:37
right okay so if you can't see it does
58:40
it exist the LG display that they are
58:44
showing off is a 2560 by 1440 5.5 in
58:50
smartphone screen although we'll probably kind of have to call it a fablet at that point um Chris how do you
58:56
feel as someone who wears glasses no less about the race to higher
59:02
resolutions is this just a dick measuring contest from the manufacturers
59:06
is it just a fanboyism thing from the consumers that keep pushing for higher
59:11
and higher resolutions
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go oh hold on Chris you're breaking up give us a second let's just
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uh yeah give me give me a second here I'm just going to restart the voice chat
59:28
ons here okay okay sorry give me a sec don't
59:33
worry guys we'll be back to uh your uh our scheduled programming very very
59:37
shortly reg regularly scheduled entertainment yeah which I hope is very
59:41
entertaining for you guys cuz I am definitely having an absolute blast
59:46
anyone who joined late is like what religious debate what I know right what
59:51
what's happening okay so hold on a second there there it goes there it goes
59:56
okay we uh almost have liftoff here guys
59:59
so uh Chris will be back in just a moment as long as we're not uh as long
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as we're not dropping frames we're still on right like we're still live maybe we
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got hit by the the the wrath of LG
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screens we're still live okay so it's not our connection this time fortunately
60:14
for those of you who are tuning in late we're streaming from my house again
60:18
because we haven't had a chance to get um to diagnose with Shaw yet or have a
60:23
new ISP come in and uh get things going for us so chat with uh chat with friend
60:29
uh no no no I'll add you you're adding me yep think I can do that cuz you're
60:34
still in right yeah okay so go ahead and invite me maybe I can't do that oh hold
60:40
on I'm still in okay boom yay yay so
60:45
you're back first of all let me address
60:48
the person who accused me of being a sylon in the chat I am not a frack and
60:52
toaster get that through thick skull okay and if you disagree you and me are
60:57
going to have words uh second of all I think you know we increase screen
61:03
resolution it's a law of diminishing returns quite honestly and anybody who
61:08
can see the differences uh I I would
61:11
they've got very very finely attuned eyes because I can't and unfortunately
61:16
they're pushing pushing these resolutions very high and that's great I
61:21
love Sharp Images sharp text sharp screens the problem is the video
61:28
processor or just the CPU just can't keep up and so you end up with a subpar
61:33
experience and to me technology in a
61:36
device in my hand or in front of my face it's all about the experience forget the
61:40
specs 100% absolutely forget the specs I'm I'm someone who I I know I'm an
61:46
outlier but I I believe in specs to a certain degree but without proper
61:50
execution what's the point I've had great Hardware in crappy software and
61:55
this to me is exactly why the guys like
61:58
LG who are releasing this oh there's the problem so I need to boost this one
62:02
right very good all right to me the problem is guys like LG who were sort of
62:09
I mean look how much earlier was LG in phones than Apple or Google if they got
62:14
it if they understood that it's not about the next 5 1/2 in 1080P screen and
62:21
it's actually about the experience there would have been no room for guys like
62:25
Apple or Google to bust in and Caron in
62:29
this market if Samsung had understood if Sony had understood and and that to me
62:34
is why Google is allowed to exist and that is why Google and Motorola may be
62:39
the one to look out for as opposed to even Samsung in the long run on the
62:44
Android platform I I wouldn't count Samsung out yet uh with teas or taisen
62:50
how do you say it is it teasing or tysen I have no idea well you know what I'm
62:55
talking about though right yes okay this is the open source platform being
62:59
codeveloped by both Samsung and Intel just to give context for those who who
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may not be aware I think Samsung has
63:07
done more to help Android than Google believe it or not and with Samsung
63:13
potentially dropping I gotta cut you off here do you mean in terms of market share and
63:17
acceptance and marketing then yes
63:21
absolutely y because Google was seem to be content to let it be for nerds don't
63:25
don't wrong I think they're spraying and praying uh with Samsung producing as
63:30
many devices as it does it doesn't surprise me that it has the the market
63:33
share that it that it does command uh you know but they're they're going to be
63:37
dropping Android and and Android is just a means to an end for Samsung and to a
63:42
certain degree Android is just a means to an end for Google uh open is great
63:47
when it's a marketing term uh but Google is you know not I don't think they they
63:53
haven't been as open as they claim to be or been we discussed this last week
63:57
actually in fact uh the whole Fiasco with Microsoft and Google and the
64:01
YouTube app is really a window into some
64:04
of the things that are changing at Google right now we feel and well it's
64:08
true and Google is and I think Danny Sullivan put put it best he called
64:13
Google clopen which is I guess
64:16
a so they're horses
64:19
CL yeah you can say that no more like the words Clos and open put together I
64:24
know what he meant this this guy's giving me this look right now well how
64:28
how do you get to horses I had horses as
64:31
a kid oh my goodness okay sorry keep
64:35
going uh is my volume okay by the way
64:38
let me tweak you yeah I love being tweaked that's not exactly like a twerk
64:43
right sounds hot right I wasn't sure I'm I'm still not hit with the kids lingo
64:47
these
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days all right I turned you up yay
64:57
so so okay I think basically we've come to the conclusion that okay I agree with
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you 100% the race to resolution inpcs is
65:04
not the be all and end all I'm interested to see what Samsung and Intel
65:08
come up with however the thing that I
65:11
still am not necessarily convinced that they understand is the experience on the
65:17
software side Intel is not a software
65:20
company and Samsung is not a software company and you look at their entire
65:25
history of products I don't think either of them has produced anything worth a
65:29
lick when it comes to software no offense I I no I completely agree I do
65:34
not like the TouchWiz experience on Android devices at all uh I think it's
65:39
completely unoptimized much talk about Intel Vive if we all want to be old
65:44
about things for a bit here well I didn't want to trip too far
65:48
down memory lane oh and speaking of I someone just
65:54
said well I don't know what it was exactly but they keep bringing up a
65:57
Nintendo 3DS XL um it was released uh you know just
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recently that uh the Google Play Store
66:06
and iOS app store are cleaning the clock of mobile console gaming I think it's
66:10
just a matter of time before Nintendo has to give up and start licensing their
66:14
titles to uh uh various platforms I get
66:18
a lot of black I get a lot of flack for this opinion I think NVIDIA Shield is
66:22
potentially the future you know I I don't disagree I I think it's uh you
66:27
know I bought the Ouya and was impressed
66:30
with the idea of the Ouya I think NVIDIA
66:34
captured exactly what needed to be captured now whether or not it's going
66:38
to evolve that way uh I I think I I I
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would I would be inclined to agree I think NVIDIA did a good job with The
66:45
Shield or as good as could be expected um but it's it's got to be uh you know
66:52
something that users are going to think of and grab first and I don't know if
66:56
they're there yet I really don't and that's not to say that a console gamer
66:59
is better than a PC Gamer is better than a mobile gamer they're all Gamers period
67:03
the lon share of the marketplace however are people like me casual gamers Plant
67:09
versus Zombies players well no I don't play I honestly the game video game I
67:13
play Tetris I freaking love Tetris uh
67:16
you know I I I play casual games I pting monsters I pick them up put it down and
67:21
that is most of the market I mean you have extreme Gamers and that's certainly
67:25
a great part of the market it's great entertainment but you know in terms of
67:30
who's spending the money a bigger piece
67:33
of that pie is not being spent on any kind of console gaming that's true and
67:38
new models have developed to take advantage of Hardcore I mean in the old
67:41
model you got to sell them the cartridge and then that was it whereas in new
67:45
models like free to play you can continue to milk those hardcore guys so
67:50
at least it's not a total write off but I think the hardcore guys really
67:54
overestimate um how important they are in the grand scheme of things when it
67:58
comes to companies and balance sheets and
68:02
profitability you know it's it's really
68:05
it's interesting to be at this time uh with technology and where it sits
68:10
specifically in the consumer Marketplace and even we're there with with computers
68:14
in in traditional PCS and I I've caught Flack for my opinion on on PCS as well
68:20
saying you know that they're really kind of being marginalized you know the idea
68:25
of a personal computer uh in a PC in
68:28
general is just going to an extreme part of the market much like you could build
68:31
your own car but are you going to do it most people won't and I've taken Flack
68:36
for that same thing from him you just
68:39
okay if you don't believe me go to Google Trends and search for the word
68:43
computer and see how it's trending downward people are not searching
68:48
consumers 99% of the marketplace are not
68:51
searching for the word computer because their definition and need for a computer
68:56
is changed that eliminates the PC as a
69:00
viable tool to be used and sold in the marketplace which is why Microsoft is
69:04
getting its clock clean and I'm sorry as
69:07
much as I think it would help now that Steve Balmer is announced his retirement
69:12
from Microsoft I don't think Microsoft's going to change its ways if only because
69:17
the CEO or even an interim CEO is going to be appointed by the board and be
69:22
signed off on by Bill Gates Steve Balmer and the board so Microsoft's not going
69:26
to bring in someone radically different and unfortunately this is It's A Hard
69:31
truth but you have to accept that the
69:34
world doesn't need Windows as much as Windows needs the world and Microsoft's
69:39
been operating from a completely different perspective which is exactly
69:42
why we have this monstrosity this Frankenstein's monster that's known as
69:47
Windows 8 or even worse Windows
69:50
RT I I I agree with a lot hold on I
69:54
would make the argument that we don't really have Windows RT because no one
69:57
owns a device that has it on it okay you said it not me um I I agree
70:03
with a lot of that but not quite all of it with the new consoles coming out PC gaming is getting bigger now PCS as a
70:08
consumer device I think might kind of float away but they might become more of
70:12
a dedicated gaming machine exactly like said we don't need Windows for that it's
70:16
like building your own car except building your own car if it was easy
70:20
yeah so it it should still have more penetration than custombuilt handmade
70:24
cars but you know the the we might be looking
70:28
at the end of the HP Desktop and Best Buy being relevant I have no issue with
70:32
it all and and I think that uh you know Microsoft's they're they're hedging
70:36
their bets uh and I think they're taking the wrong their heart's in the right
70:41
place but unfortunately they're going to price themselves out of the market uh
70:45
the Xbox one they position it in such a way that it's an entertainment console
70:49
which is great the problem is I think the PS4 could very easily take the Xbox
70:56
360s place in the family room if only based on price and just completely eat
71:01
its lunch I I really honestly because
71:04
look at it unless I'm mistaken unless they've changed their tune like
71:08
Microsoft has done in recent weeks with just about everything in relation to the
71:11
Xbox one uh it won't be backwards compatible with older Xbox games you
71:16
know certainly Games available on disk the problem with that is that gives the
71:21
consumer who was an Xbox 360 you know owner more ability to shift platforms
71:27
yes it does why would they give themselves that open and let Microsoft
71:32
honestly they're potentially shooting themselves in the foot by pricing it
71:35
$100 more even if it's $100 greater they
71:39
by pricing it so high in respect to
71:43
their core audience of who's going to buy it and that's going to be the the
71:46
13-year-old kid who's begging mommy and daddy to buy them a game console let's
71:52
and that 13-year-old kid if you were like me um actually okay you were
71:56
probably looking at different consoles than I was but I was asking for a Super
71:59
Nintendo or a Genesis I got whichever ones my parents bought and if they're
72:05
saying I want a PS4 or an Xbox One the
72:08
parents are going to make the decision exactly and if they're going to
72:14
base that their decision on price nothing else ain't going to be about
72:19
enhancing the family room ain't going to be enhancing the TV or that the the
72:22
media experience Microsoft has the right
72:26
idea they have the wrong approach yeah and you know what they really had an
72:30
opportunity with Xbox to uh and it seems like they're kind of taking baby steps
72:34
in the direction of unifying the Xbox experience and the Windows experience
72:39
but it should have been that way from day one Xbox One well okay Xbox first
72:43
gen was a PC why were they not able to do
72:49
something okay and I'm not saying this would have been easy but why was it not
72:52
possible for them to treat it more like a PC and not even be sitting around
72:56
worrying about backwards compatibil compatibility at this point because they
73:00
could just say oh well you know don't worry about your back library of Xbox uh
73:04
360 games because they're all going to run on your PC we're going to open up
73:08
the license now so you don't need a console or or whatever else they could have done to bring those two devices
73:13
together and actually converge them to the point where what they're trying to
73:16
do now is they're trying to make the Xbox One the media PC because Microsoft
73:21
and Intel and you name it has been trying to do this since I mean Google's
73:27
trying to do it Apple's trying to do it everyone's trying to make a media PC
73:31
essentially yeah but but people don't need it and not at that price exactly
73:36
not at that price that's the problem people will take it at it's really it's
73:39
sad because I think the Xbox 3 I'm sorry
73:43
the Xbox one yeah is a better media
73:47
center console than a PS4 it's it's not so much a gaming
73:51
machine as an everything to everybody and I would have expected Microsoft to
73:56
learn its lesson to not do that again I mean Windows 8 they talk about no
73:59
compromises I think the whole thing is a compromise uh and for for whatever it's
74:04
worth by the way I'm you know in chat with you guys right now on my Surface
74:10
PC it's uh it's the only way to to to run the utility you know and I'm I'm
74:14
running right now in classic desktop mode but it's uh it's something where
74:20
Microsoft's trying but unfortunately they they are not addressing the need at
74:24
a price where the consumer is going to buy into it yeah so you know what I
74:29
don't want to keep Chris for too long here guys and I promised we'd do a
74:32
Twitter blitz so we're gonna oh that's completely not the right thing so let's
74:36
go over to the actual Twitter feed here so Chris I don't know if uh you're
74:40
familiar with it it's pretty self-explanatory Twitter Blitz is I ask
74:44
people to ask questions for you and you basically answer them as fast as
74:47
possible and move on to the next one great I'm sure a lot of the people who
74:51
want me out of this chat would be very happy with me being quick all all right
74:55
favorite piece of technology you've ever owned go oh uh
75:00
Theon I'm sorry the toron it was a
75:04
musical instrument the MIDI controller that Yamaha made it's actually an app
75:09
available for iOS too what brands of products do you use most every day and
75:14
why or maybe even just pick like kind of a favorite product you use a lot right
75:17
now uh God I go back and forth between
75:20
my Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 today all right fair enough and totally
75:25
agree with that approach y on Google Trends the term computer has gone down
75:31
while PC gaming has gone up and this I'm
75:34
going to just interject here this to me was a huge missed opportunity for
75:37
Microsoft where they abandoned the PC as a gaming platform to focus on Xbox
75:41
versus allowing them to be convergent so go ahead Chris hit it yeah I think it's
75:46
great I I think the the the idea of a PC
75:50
type of uh piece of Hardware perfect for
75:53
gaming but it doesn't need to be on Windows it could be uh Linux it could be
75:57
OS 10 it could be anything and that shows with steam moving towards
76:01
Ubuntu uh okay here's just a comment that uh sort of a comment on the the
76:06
dynamic we've got here which is great news because I actually already pinged
76:10
Chris about this and we're going to be down in Seattle for PA's Prime Chris
76:13
isn't attending the show but what's cool about us being in the same city at the
76:18
same time for more than like 3 hours this time which we were a little while
76:22
ago but we didn't have time to meet up I am uh going to shoehorn myself into a
76:27
pillo vlog at some point somehow so we are G to hang out while I'm down there
76:31
now we can't back out oh boy oh by the way someone in chat said
76:36
type three for boobies I I've been I've been pressing three but nothing's
76:42
happening uh tell me what you're excited
76:46
about boobies I I was told by the chat
76:50
room there would be boobies if I pressed three and I'm so disappointed
76:55
um you know sorry to be serious for a
76:58
minute no I am married and my wife is hotter than any other woman on the
77:02
planet you know it's amazing what makeup can do because like there was a there
77:07
was a porn actress that was at a hockey game not that long ago and the camera
77:11
was panning past and caught like the breasts right and you could tell the
77:16
cameraman was like and and her face oh
77:20
man when she's just like out and about and not made up and you know on the set
77:25
wow that you could sort of you could grape cheese with it you know in terms
77:30
of what I'm excited about you I I just I I I can't wait for the next Star Wars
77:34
movies I can't wait uh to uh to you know
77:39
just just experience just live in live in the now and enjoy life every single
77:44
day that there's very little that I could say that what I'm looking forward
77:48
to more than anything else um I don't know I just uh I enjoy a lot this
77:54
question is is 5 in or 4.7 in 1080P
77:57
smartphone form factor a limit now I'm not sure exactly what this viewer means
78:01
but what I'll do is I'll interpret that the way that I want to is for you how do
78:06
you feel about fablet and are we moving in sort of a stupid Direction where it
78:10
comes to smartphones just other than Apple where it comes to these Android
78:15
smartphone makers which again comes back to that bigger must be better because we
78:18
don't understand the experience thing do they need to be any bigger no I I think
78:23
they're they're nice but they just it they don't some people love them some
78:28
people don't I think they're interesting um I think they're interesting that that
78:33
my friend is a term that means I don't
78:37
want to say what I'm actually thinking right now yeah it's interesting I I'll
78:41
leave it it's interesting all right we've never been
78:46
into it very much yeah not really uh do you consider the Moto X a
78:52
better Android phone than the Nexus 4 based on what you've seen so far uh I
78:56
wouldn't go that far I think in terms of consumer adoption it has a possibility
79:00
although I guess Motorola had a pull back on a lot of customization options
79:04
because they were having quality control issues with the engraving the other day
79:10
um I think it's a step in the right direction making it more consumer
79:13
friendly but I got to tell you my Nexus 4 is still my go-to Android
79:19
device all right I think let's see if we've got a couple more here that
79:25
asking me about my size preference is a very personal
79:30
question at least we didn't ask you about your size out right I appreciate
79:34
that even though I do have a 31inch Darth biter in my
79:40
office all right well you know what Chris I don't want to keep you forever
79:43
and uh we've already given the teaser that uh I have I've invited myself to
79:48
your show at some point in the near future so guys if you enjoyed Chris let
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80:05
that hopefully we can uh gravel hands and knees to maybe bring him back at
80:09
some point because this was a total blast man thank you very much here's the
80:13
thing I've probably lost subscribers Now by by doing I'm not to say that you you
80:18
trust me you have far more power than I ever could uh but I wouldn't be
80:22
surprised if if I offended anybody and I did not offend you as a listener if you
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hate me let me just say I just want to talk to your haters of me right now if I
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can uh I just want to say one thing you haters I'm on this show and you're not
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okay that's really all I wanted to say yeah we were actually you know what is
80:43
funny is I PMD you on YouTube years ago
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when I was Tiny and you were like a huge
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deal to me to be perfectly honest and I never got a reply from you and so I half
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expected when I messaged you this time that I wasn't even going to get a reply
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because you're still a big deal to me man you were a huge Pioneer and you were
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one of the guys that I was following you
81:08
and Tiger Direct TV were the ones where I was looking at you from more of a of
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an edutainment perspective and I was looking at them from a what a retailer
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can do to build a YouTube channel perspective when I started ncx Tech tips
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four years ago so for those who are going to hate on you on this show
81:26
they're not allowed to do that you guys it's not permitted it's okay but I just
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wanted to let you know I ignore every YouTube message that's the worst way to
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get a hold of me I didn't know better at the time I did not ignore you on purpose
81:38
I just want to throw that out there YouTube is the work because it's it's impossible to manage I I I don't really
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reply to them either I I I understand now but at the time I didn't get it
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because I was still replying to every message because I got like one every week right thanks I we'll talk to you
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soon and uh we'll see you when we're down in Seattle this has been a total
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blast absolutely happy to do it all right take care see you
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later all right let's just uh well there
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you guys have it that was Chris pillo or Locker Nome as the for the artist
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formerly known as Locker Nome let's go let's go with that and I really hope
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that uh that you guys enjoyed having him on as a guest based on how many people
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are tuned into the stream right now I think you guys enjoyed us having him as
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a guest so I will make make sure this is my personal commitment to you now we are
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going to try to bring back Chris at least I guarantee personal commitment we
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will try I shut up man you're killing me
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here let's get back down to business so I was trying to load this page before
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and it wasn't working there we go posted by John Lamb on the Forum uh Steve
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Balmer about to retire he wrote a letter that talked about sort of all the you
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know great things that have happened at Microsoft how they went from I think he
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said 7.5 million do company to a s 7
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billion billion dollar whatever somewhere around some ridiculous metric
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that thousand de growth in the time that he's been with the company I I did the
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math 7.5 mil to 78 billion which is just
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unbelievable he says Senior Management is still committed to devices and
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services as a strategy so For Better or For Worse they're still going down that
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path and um you know what let's just
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move on to the next one this is an interesting talk also related to I'll
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let you uh I'll let you cover this one here go check it out okay so this is our
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article posted by snow comet on the Linus Tech tips Forum it's the original
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article is from VR Zone and AMD says P4
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performance advantage over Xbox one may be greater than many expect due to Huma
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which is their homogen or homogeneous unified something AR microarchitecture
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something like that Bas it allows the GPU and the CPU to grab references that
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are in RAM on at the exact same time so before they could both grab it off the
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same chip but it would have to be two separate instances of the same
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information now the graphics card and CPU can both grab it which is a huge
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benefit part of the problem though is if it's not a console exclusive title
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they're going to be developing it not with that feature in mind so we're not
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going to see a huge benefit from this unless we do because of apus on the
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desktop unless we do because of that and we will maybe later on okay okay well
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later on they're not expecting titles to be able to get that much Advantage from
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this but it's it's more of a long-term look at this awesome thing that if
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utilized properly could give a lot more performance so it's a hardware feature
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now but I mean I expect a Next Generation or even two generations from
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now Apu from AMD to potentially take advantage of this which would mean we
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could be looking at a situation where the game gets released for console and
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then gets I mean okay it gets released for PS4 and Xbox One let's say so it is
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able to run with Huma or Huma or whatever you want to call it or is able
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to run without it gets ported to PC where if you have an APU all of a sudden
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you can take advantage of that code path that already exists so that's what we
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could be looking at every everything coming out all the information coming
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out for consoles right now is just every single time it's like oh wait this is
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information for consoles but this is so good for PC so good for PC probably even
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better than it is for consoles like this is such a big deal awes yeah we are
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color us pretty excited about uh about that particular development right there
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so big thanks to everyone who posts news on the lonus tech tips Forum we
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appreciate you guys and we're going to actually burn through a few of these news topics here because the camera is
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running on battery today and I actually have no idea how much battery life we
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have left so uh yeah Wacom has a new
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tablet like actual tablet not like a drawing tablet well it can it can be
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both if you plug it into a PC or a Mac it becomes a drawing tablet if you run
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it solo it's either depending on which one you buy an Android tablet or a
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Windows based tablet and they're saying that for professional use you can plug it into a computer but then while you're
86:00
on the road or while you're doing whatever you can still get design work done uh using apps inside of Android or
86:06
window Facebook or yeah or whatever you want it's an Android tablet or Windows
86:10
tablet they're not cheap no they have a demo demo video that you can check out
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in the thread this was posted by Pixie pay on the uh lus Tech tips Forum so uh
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the Android version is $1,600 for a 32 gig model and the
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Windows version is $2500 for a 512 gig
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model however when we want to talk about convergent devices uh the so the
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original uh oh source was just wacom's website so when we talk about convergent
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devices how flexible is this thing because it's not much bigger than a regular tablet but it's got a
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248 uh different um oh yeah sorry I'll
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sign out of there uh so it's got 248 different pressure
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settings and it is not much thicker than a regular tablet which is just
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unbelievable um it's it's awesome because like and another thing is I saw
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a whole bunch of people go oh my God the price is so high and I would normally
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jump on that too but it's a walkom tablet yeah still a walkom tablet the
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price is going to be crazy high it's a walkom tablet it has that quality in it
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and it can be used in that way people are going to be spending around that
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much money well maybe not around that much money but a lot of money on a
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walking tablet anyway so if they could just spend a little bit more and get this increased functionality that's
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awesome I mean so $2,500 let's say you bought the biggest iPad available so 128
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gig iPad and you bought yourself a Wacom tablet I mean you're already spending a
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whack ton of money anyway maybe go for a Windows tablet that also has a Wacom
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tablet built into it I don't know I like that one because then you can get full desktop applications to use with it
87:37
right that's so cool it's really expensive but it's so cool and the the
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the storage space on that is insane to me the Android device doesn't make a
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whole lot of sense and I had this conversation with diesel and he
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basically said the same thing is like he paid the extra $900 to have a Windows tablet even not
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from a creative person I'm not a artistically creative person at all you
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know that neither of us are um if I was in that position I would probably Fork
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it out for the Windows one because you just get so much more flexibility and
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the the storage space on it is so much bigger isn't it like I think it's like
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500 gigs versus 32 or something 512 versus 32 I mean that uh that that's a
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really big deal to me and we're
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back we think so we have a
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theory that we're testing right now to
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see if we are going to indeed stay back
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but we uh we think that uh you know baby
88:31
got back or something like that it's a song about babies maybe
88:37
you're not a parent you wouldn't understand there is probably a remix of
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that isn't there oh probably some some
88:45
actual baby one that is so classic anyway so without further Ado
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folks Let's uh jump into our next topic here I know this is sort of random that
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we're uh that we're jumping back into things here I know that's pretty unusual
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and I have no idea how many people are even watching but uh you know it's worth
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worth a shot giving things another go we
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are live again I'm going to tweet that out right now so AMD has just announced
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massive price drops on their new
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9590 processor so this was the CPU
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with the 500 watt
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TDP which did I say 500 cuz I meant 220
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wat TDP sorry but it was the CPU that now costs
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uh oh well see this is what happens when
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my flow gets interrupted they dropped it by $500 it has a 220 watt TDP making it
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pretty much about as hot running as anything could possibly be it consumes a
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ton of power and the performance while looking okay
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well what was like like just ridiculous
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for $900 I mean it's a it's a lot more
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feasible now but if you bought one already I feel bad for you and my kind
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of theory about this is what they're trying to do is make it so that people can spend their excess money on water
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cooling so they don't blow up the chip
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yeah maybe I mean I I don't I don't I
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don't know exactly what the uh the logic behind actually asking that much for the
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product in the first place was and I don't know what the logic behind
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slashing it by that much is unless they were literally selling none of them like
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zero so maybe there weren't even cuz honestly okay working at NC if there was
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like um if there was like an issue like
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okay like we've got like 500 of these and we're selling like 10 a week and
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it's at this price we we might look at it and go okay well how many have we
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sold have we sold like two can we just
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like reach out to those two guys and like deal with them and then you know
90:54
not worry about all the people who are going to be upset when we drop the price by $100 or something like in this Casa
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in that case it's only on products where there's like a ton of margin like it was
91:03
like a weird closeout deal or something like that where you just you're
91:07
experimenting with the pricing trying to find what the market will bear maybe
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what AMD did was they tried to find out if the market will bear this discovered
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that they've sold none of them and then they were like okay well we're not going to be upsetting anyone if we drop the
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price now that was another thing I was thinking is yes it's a huge price drop
91:22
and yes my first reaction was holy holy crap if I bought one of those I'd be pissed then my second reaction was did
91:27
anyone buy any of those is it is there going to be anyone to be pissed I have
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no idea I mean I know NC opened one to build a demo
91:35
system other than that have they sold any so like retailers and system
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integrators yeah it's like it and then
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like crazy benchmarkers that are getting them for free yeah I don't know I had a
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great question uh the other day on Twitter someone was asking if they
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released the 9590 does that mean fx8350
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is which are basically the same chip but bin not quite as well does that mean
91:59
that some of the best overclocking fx8350 is are essentially not going to
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exist anymore and the answer is yes they skimming it yeah yeah because if they're
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skim the only way to get what you know is for sure going to be the best
92:10
overclocking chips is to buy the highest Bend part typically now there are other
92:15
factors such as what Intel or AMD or NVIDIA whoever else are selecting for if
92:20
they're selecting for power consumption versus if they're selecting for um heat
92:25
output or or whatever those factors are
92:28
um that can affect it too but in general going for the highest end one gives you
92:33
the best chance of overclocking this has always been the case but even then we
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might be talking about differences of a couple hundred mehz or we might be talking about differences where they run
92:40
at the same speed but this one the lower end one outputs a lot more heat or something along those lines so um
92:46
someone says uh on Twitch chat uh lonus I love how I search for FX 9000 Series
92:51
chip and you're like the first two results
92:54
sweet great work and I don't think we ever even made a video about it which is
92:58
sort of the most ridiculous thing there all right so let's uh you know what
93:03
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typo yeah I'm sure there is it's in progress you guys diesel did the whole
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WordPress with a custom theme it was way more work to set up it's um very
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particular theme but they also it's not as TurnKey so uh didn't look as good we
96:14
spent a lot more time on it kind of wasted the time because we never really
96:18
sent anyone to that website or finished it yeah I mean that's the problem with
96:21
these projects is when you don't finish then they are not finished we were
96:26
trying to make an artsy good-look site so not me and then it's WordPress so not
96:33
diesel yeah so was not a really good situation don't
96:39
get me wrong like custom coding if you're going to do all of your HTML and
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all of your CSS and just custom build your entire website you can make something better than you can make on
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Squarespace but it takes so much time and it takes so much resources if you
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want to do it faster and honestly better than what most people are going to be
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able to do they have advaned mode now so you can dink around with the HTML and
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CSS I asked uh bet or something about
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that yeah really can you can you edit everything I have no idea I if you can
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edit everything that's actually potentially really cool it's kind of
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speaking of things that you can pay for
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monthly should you so desire
97:44
it the Elder Scrolls Online is asking
97:48
for a monthly fee should I just shut up
97:52
for like 10 minutes so we can go to the next topic um no no I want you to I want
97:57
you to cover this one so that was submitted by top war gamer on the lonus
98:00
tech tips forum and uh slick go for it
98:03
if uh if you want a reference back to a previous live stream that we've
98:11
had um sorry if you want to reference
98:14
back to a previous live stream that we've had uh when wow I can't remember
98:19
his name they have too many different names for all their different stuff but
98:22
Logan I I was thinking Tech Syndicate and then I was thinking raise the world
98:26
thinking uh when Logan was on we talked about free to-play games and the the
98:31
payment mode that most people are calling out Elders girls should have
98:34
been is a free-to-play game now one thing Logan brought up that I believe
98:39
both of us agreed with is free-to-play games putting no barrier to entry brings
98:43
in a not strong Community every 9-year-old every single person that you
98:48
don't want playing that game will be playing that game and the communities in
98:52
payto playay games have been higher now
98:55
is in my opinion a subscription model the best not necessarily they could have
98:59
done something like Guild Wars they could have done something like something else but the angle pay for the game and
99:04
then no monthly fee I mean that to me isn't a bad one either yeah but then
99:08
okay okay but but where they're coming from is if they did any other model so
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say they did The Guild Wars model Guild Wars released his expansions fairly
99:17
often that's where they get their recurring income from now you don't have
99:20
to buy the expansions but if you don't buy the expansion you're not able to do
99:24
everything the other Scrolls team is saying well with this IP you've always
99:29
been able to do everything it's a free roam very do
99:33
whatever you want IP now and IP like
99:37
intellectual property not like Internet Protocol yeah sorry um now where I'm
99:41
coming from with that is there's always been expansions and stuff but I guess from a single player's perspective it's
99:45
not like you're locked off compared to other players cuz it's single player so you're free to do everything that is
99:50
currently in the game for you so in a multiplayer situation they're saying
99:54
you can't not do something that someone else can do so you'll always be able to
99:58
do everything if it's subscription based that was interesting and I was sold I
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was okay with it now if you looked at my notes that I added on there they're also
100:07
adding a cash shop so that that's where things start
100:11
to get a little bit dicey to me because if you're going to charge everyone to
100:14
play at all then how can you have free to play stuff implemented as well like
100:20
paying so so I mean what is this like I think so quote from uh vg247.com
100:26
is it's probably safe to speculate that these will include a large range of
100:29
largely cosmetic items then if they're not going to have a pay to- win model so
100:34
horse armor anyone yeah like are they I mean would it get them a lot of
100:37
publicity if they like if the first viable item that would be huge one thing
100:43
though is that the only thing they have confirmed is in the cash off is a name
100:47
change which is no problem but there's obviously going to be more stuff we just
100:51
don't know what it is for