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welcome to the W show guys we are in

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HD woo 2013 I know right it's like we've

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caught up to the entire rest of the internet and uh actually here I should

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be monitoring here I don't oh what only one of them is plugged in because we

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have relocated the entire setup of all

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the gear and everything and we're sorry we're a little bit late but we did end

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up sort of having some technical difficulties we only forgot one small

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adapter which for anyone who's ever relocated a bunch of tech crap one small

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adapter is not too bad it's not bad and unfortunately I have no tech gear at my

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house anymore it's all at lus Media Group headquarters so we don't have

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anything but what we do have is a fantastic show for you guys today so if

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you've been sitting on the twitch Channel then you'll have probably seen

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this already in the video introduction that we upload to Youtube that I

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normally record locally locally and then upload but at any rate Windows Live

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sorry do it live do it live ah Windows 8

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is no longer permitted on hardware bot you can't Benchmark competitively on

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Windows 8 so we're going to tell you more about that later uh space glasses

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space glasses they're crazy you they can simulate things that you touch in midair

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are you the only one calling them space glasses no the link is to space glasses

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look space glasses website I didn't even notice like I was looking at the company

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name I was watching the videos about it I was like where did he get Space

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glasses from space glasses although what's funny about their company logo

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and it okay okay this is okay okay no let's get to our topics first and then

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we'll talk about that later but remind me Maxwell is is rumored to release in

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quarter 1 of 2014 which might make NVIDIA look a little bit scared at the

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whole volcanic islands thing coming out because remember guys the way that AMD

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and NVIDIA control information if there's a leak they wanted there to be a

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leak pretty much they're so tight about that stuff so if they're leaking hey we

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got stuff coming it might be because they

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want to talk about how you should probably not quite run out and buy an

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AMD graphics card just yet please uh so that's that could be very interesting

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the graphics war is heating up again it's exciting um speaking of exciting

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things if you are Microsoft you are either excited or not excited Steve

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Balmer is retiring he's giving an awful

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long lead time so he's saying sometime

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in the next 12 months he will be retiring um but I mean that's

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appropriate given that they haven't picked a successor yet and you know it's

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uh you got to respect the guy for being willing to stick it out as much as an

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entire year more y uh before just sort of leaving them defend for themselves so

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we're going to have more on that soon but before we do that let's kick things

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up a notch with the intro which I will have to lean over

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here to do

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so guys uh last week was a bit of a fiasco with our whole Squarespace thing

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really cool to show you guys later on that I have had diesel the intern

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working on throughout this week using Squarespace so we have a bit of an

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updated Linus Media Group website which I think looks pretty good and uh took a

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lot less time than the older WordPress based ones so uh guys you're going to

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want to check that out so without further Ado let's get into it hardware

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bot banss Windows 8 benchmarks due to RTC issue so basically if you decrease

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the base clock and increase your multiplier we should start with some

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background because not everyone's going to know what a hardware bot is okay okay

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so hardware bot guys is sort of the governing Authority on competitive

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computer benchmarking if you haven't heard of it before go check it out hardware.com and what they do is they

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catalog and give Awards to the people who are really at the top of their game

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it's kind of like the um the uh the feal

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standards and measurements whatever those guys are in that South Park

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episode with the giant turd so they oversee all this stuff uh even if only

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the kinds of people who you know are really into computers just like kinds of

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people who are really into turd size might actually care about it they

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dedicate a an unbelievable amount of effort into making sure that

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everything's fair and everything's on the up and up which ain't easy with

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anything digital because all these

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overclocker guys so easy to spoof things they're tuners and Tweakers and Geeks

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and hackers and you got to be sort of

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fighting that while helping them to anyway okay so that's hardware bot so

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what's an RTC the RTC is the clock in Windows so

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it's it's keeping track of time and if that isn't properly running things can

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get really really messed up so there's a lot of things that rely on RTC backups

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rely on RTC benchmarks some benchmarks not all benchmarks rely on RTC um

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anything scheduled applications can rely on RTC so if you play um like if you

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ever played older Windows 3.1 games like I had this one game called Goose where

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you were like a little like tank and you were like andway it was good I liked it

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um what happened was my family upgraded our computer and all of a sudden the

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tank went so fast I couldn't do anything because that application was not taking

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time from the systems r TC it was actually just running as fast as the

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processor could possibly run it and okay

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thing so RTC is good yeah we like it okay so the problem has to do with

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certain Intel platforms and Windows 8 so

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the base clock is how the clock speed of your CPU which should not be confused

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with the system clock that's running

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because that's what was happening in that old Goose thing whereas the time for the application was derived from the

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clock speed of the CPU which is totally wrong now crazy it's insane it should

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have never worked that way but a lot of them did so the clock speed of your CPU

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is derived from the multiplier times the base clock so when you're increasing or

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decreasing the base clock what are we seeing here so what's happening is

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they're they're allowing for a bigger time window by decreasing their base

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clock but then not making their CPU Faster by increasing their multiplier M

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so the CPU has instead of say 5 minutes

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It'll have 5 minutes and 18 seconds to complete the Benchmark and in that

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amount of time a lot of benchmarks are like okay how much can you do in this amount of time yes so they give

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themselves 18 more seconds but they're at the same speed they were before right

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so they decrease their base clock increase their multiplier give themselves a bigger window and then

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achieve a better score now to be clear Hardware bought doesn't necessarily um

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think that this was being intentionally exploited at least that's the official

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word who knows what they know or don't know but they have found the error and

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the here's I mean here's the funny thing is you talk to even super knowledgeable

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people like uh you know I was talking to

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um Andre Yang and JJ from ASUS where my whole thing to them was well changing

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Bas clock doesn't really change performance and they were like well it

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can in certain cases so for all we know

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Bas clock can change performance in certain cases this is true but for all

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we know some of the perceived improvements in performance we were

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getting from base clock tuning might have been because we didn't have a

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second stopwatch running next to this

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other system and it's as much as a 7%

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difference 7% difference if you uh like

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you can get it higher 6% but yeah 6% you you can depending on how you adjust it

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and stuff you can you can adjust that difference a little bit so depending how

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much you're underclocking the base clock and compensating with multiplier you can move around how much of a difference it

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makes so what you could do is if you were intentionally exploiting it you could actually tune it so that you beat

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someone else by like half a percent so

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that it's believable looks reasonable

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but yeah very very fascinating and you

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know you look at an issue like this and you get to kind of Wonder well who's I mean whose problem is it to fix this

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exactly yeah yeah like apparently the changes were made so that Windows 8

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could be put on much lower power devices um it's it's it's a lot easier

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to run the new RTC than it used to be so

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different processors and all that kind of stuff can do it much better and the thing there is that how easy is it going

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to be for Microsoft to patch this when they still have to

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enable you know whatever other devices

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whether it's you know um super low power Intel has Wheel based chips or they're

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probably using the same technology in RT so they're going to have to probably adapt it for ARM or they're going to

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have to run two separate clocks it just gets really awkward right I mean the

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idea of RT and Windows 8 is that aside

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from x86 compatibility they're supposed to be and then how much do you expect

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Microsoft to really invest estim this too that's that's one thing that came up to my mind right away was like okay it's

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a whole bunch of Niche overclockers which I love but does Microsoft care

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that much like they've obviously been moving away from game but we don't know

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what else this affects I mean for all we know this could affect um simulations of

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oil pipeline drilling y or something like that so if something like that

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comes in they'll get I think more pressure than they will from the overclocking Community yeah definitely

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the overclocking Community is uh you know awesome but not that big we we love

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them yeah what can but what can we say so um our scheduled guest for today is

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Locker gnome or Chris pillo as uh depending on at what point in history

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youve followed him or how closely you'll have probably heard of him though he's

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one of the pioneers of tech videos to to

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put it to put it mildly so I'm I'm just tweeting him right now and finding out

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where we're at on that because I don't think we managed to get a uh a test call

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going today so hopefully we're going to get that going pretty quick just wanted

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to bring that up and our next topic should we jump right into EA might as

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well I yeah might as well EA moment we need like an intro

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thing for this so that we can like really do it

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properly I mean they didn't do anything bad this week they didn't do anything

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bad so our source for this one is Escapist magazine and like you know they

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don't they don't know what to make of it we don't know what to make of it EA

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offers full re funds for unsatisfied

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origin customers now my first reaction

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to this was I was like okay it's

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Escapist so they're probably trolling EA because EA is offering refunds on Origin

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which is free or something like I mean that's the level of stupidity we've come

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to expect from these guys but

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no that is not what they did so it's supposed to be a benefit over like

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physical retail so with physical retail you buy a game you try and return it no

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no not not a PC game because it has a license attached to it but I mean a big

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part of that is because that digital license is is cuz I mean you used to be

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able to return games back when it didn't have a serial number attached to it that

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was like you know a one-time use battl net account that now all of a sudden the

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serial number means nothing yeah back before that you could return them so

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it's actually the the digital rights that are making it so

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that retailers can't take games back and from my perspective I'm looking at a

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digital piece of merchandise going well

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hold on a minute why can't steam give you a

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refund I totally could because they can remove it from your account and that's

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the only way you have to use this thing

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so if they remove it from your account they can take the key back and resell that key and I understand the you know

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you don't want someone buying a game to do a speedrun of it and returning it but

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I think EA has found a very nice balance

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here so they're calling it the great game guarantee it's only running on EA

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titles irony just weird no I understand it

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because how would you get a third party developer to to take a game back well

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what I was thinking is is you could you could you buy batches of keys I think

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this is how it works I'm not entirely sure but you buy batch because steam will run out of keys for certain games

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sometimes so I think they buy batches I don't know don't quote me on that but

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you have this batch of keys if you get returned you just put that back into

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inventory and resell it unless the

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license terms you have with the developer don't allow you to do that

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that's true yeah which could very well be the case so they're doing EA games

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only um they are allowing either 24

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hours after you first launch the game or

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7 days after you buy the title so they're giving you whichever comes first

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um and they're giving you that long to just say no I actually don't like this

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game at all you know because this I mean it's not the kind of thing where it's

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like oh you know I'm 12 hour into the campaign and maybe it's not the greatest

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thing ever if you're 12 hours into the campaign the idea is you buy it this is

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to protect you from oh it's not compatible with my graphics card or like

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you know Crossfire stutters all over the balls and you know crisis 2 or you or

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it's a Bad sequel or something you don't like it and you know right away you know

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instantly the idea is you're not stuck with it you can get a full refund I mean

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if it was like a launch day bug you could even return it and go you know

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what I still want to play this game but buy it later maybe I'll buy it when they

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fix the bug and I think this puts the right kind of pressure on the game

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developers too to stop releasing you

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know day one or day two or day three patches because now the pressure is

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going to be on the EA teams to deliver a working title at launch because

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otherwise they're going to take returns this is going to I mean this is going to

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indirectly make EA potentially a better

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game company because they're not going to be able to just be like oh well we'll

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just release it and then they're stuck with it hopefully it does that hopefully

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it does that it has potential to do that one thing that I will see it doing is Al

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the you know like I'm not a huge fan of origin origin in itself is I guess okay

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the main reason why I don't like it is cuz it's another freaking application that I have to run yeah origin plus

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Battle Log Battle Log oh Battle Log okay

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sorry I hate battle don't give me yeah um but like this makes it look pretty

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enticing because steam you have no ability to do this steam has summer

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sales you can buy things for $2 but steam doesn't have any ability and officially origin has one selling point

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that steam doesn't know one but it still has one but that's one that's one and

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are we getting I mean are we getting closer to digital I mean this is crazy

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where digital retail is behind physical

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retail for customer satisfaction policies isn't that insane where Amazon

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has a better return policy than steam yeah come on yeah I mean Amazon has to a

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lot of the times you know a lot for particularly items where there's some

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actual margin built into them they'll even ship a return label for you to ship

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it back to not only are they not getting your money for the transaction they're

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going to eat shipping back on it they're losing money on it whereas steam there

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is no shipping no they could even make it an automated system apply for refund

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within even if they gave you 6 hours you know if they gave me honestly I'd be

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happy with that I can usually figure out if I'm going to like a game in six hours yeah 6 hours after launch I think would

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even be fair but EA's gone above and beyond that they've said 24 hours if

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you're not going to get more than a full day's enjoyment out of our game then

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we're going to give it back if you wait till the weekend play it on Saturday and just go for gold you can beat a lot of

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games in 24 hours well I I mean I don't want to encourage people to do that not

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saying it's it's ballsy on EA's half on behalf to allow a 24-hour window because

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of that I agree it's not fair and if I like a game I'm going to pay for it but

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it's it's pretty ballsy and they're going to get a lot of people doing that not that I think it's right but they're

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going to get a lot of people doing that and that's frustrating I wish it I wish it didn't have to be like that I mean I

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I am I I'm like I'm like gushing about

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how greedy a is right now but like okay at the same time like steam's great I

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love steam compare them to valve and Blizzard at this point though yeah I

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mean look at blizzard who could be more Draconian than blizzard about no you pay

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you own I mean look at how broken some of

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the stuff they've done over the last while is and no you pay you own that's

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it so I uh I I I love this Diablo 3

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launch imagine how many returns they would have gotten for Diablo 3 launch I

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know it's crazy so like the pressure is going to be on EA to like no no that

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sports game is like you know going to have the right stats for you know

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whoever anyway moving into Diablo I

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Diablo II Reaper of Souls expansion is

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coming we don't know when no but it's

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but it's coming so this was an article uh on joystick so I'm just going to go

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ahead and flip over there right now I'm going to zoom in on that there for you

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guys so it was revealed at Gamescom and

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there's actually quite a lot of information given about it the let's

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start with the less important stuff I guess so there's a new

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class um that is going to be called the

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Crusader so it's going to be kind of like a paladin which it's like who

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didn't see that one coming

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I I yeah I was kind of surprised it wasn't like in already I I thought they

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were going to have more CL anyways well they were saving it for yeah expansions

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I guess I mean but like really yeah I

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don't know it had very few classes at launch what was it four uh Warrior Demon

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Hunter Wizard and Rogue basically or

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whatever they call it now I don't remember anyway okay so they had a few

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so now it's like Yay one more class and so there's new endgame content there's a

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higher level cap uh there's new monsters there's a new story act but this is what

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I want to talk about the new loot system loot

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2.0 they've actually taken I mean look

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at this I'm going to say something positive about blizzard today too

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positivity day I know it's like the good news

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show uh so the new loot system is going

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to adapt the drops to be fewer so your

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inventory isn't just going to be full of stupid like you know leg of WS all the

00:19:01.080 --> 00:19:06.600
time I don't even know if that's a thing anymore but see I'm showing my old

00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:12.720
school Miss oh I forgot to change back to us so uh yeah not so full of you know

00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:19.520
stupid stuff anymore but it's going to be a fewer better drops more tailored

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more and in addition to that something

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to do with that you might actually want to use them because right up till now it

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looked like okay you were just kind of farming gold so you could buy things in

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the auction house which is just like oh

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which is like okay yes blizzard we know you get a cut out of the auction house

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sales and that's great for you but it shouldn't you shouldn't just be buying

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all the gear that takes the satisfaction out of a Dungeon Crawler what's fun

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about grinding unless there's like the thrill

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of getting the drop which is much lower when you fully expect to just be farming

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gold to bite out of an auction and how disappointing is it to get a drop that's

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like so legit and not anything to do with anything you

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can use so now you get to go and like sell it it's like it's like uh it's like

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you know Diablo I accounting Edition yeah instead of the actual excitement of

00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:18.159
crawling around and finding that thing that's that's that's that's so cool I

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mean if I just wanted to grind and buy something I could go do odd jobs for

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people in their yards I could get a tan I could work on my muscles and then I

00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:33.640
could go buy whatever sword I want CU that's basically what it was so I

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think it's really exciting that uh there's that oh oh and the new mystic so

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there's a new Artisan that allows you to reroll Stats on regular

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items which is interesting that's cool it's very interesting it's it's like you

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buy something or you you you get something and it's like oh this is like

00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:53.080
really good but it's like if I if only it would sort of slightly be different

00:20:51.760 --> 00:21:01.080
slightly be more different then that would be uh then that would be even better so so that's uh you know blizzard

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doing something right just a really weird combination

00:21:04.320 --> 00:21:10.880
um how's that coming uh talking talking to Chris on

00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:15.080
Twitter he's like uh yep yeah we got oh I don't have Windows readily available

00:21:12.919 --> 00:21:21.120
so he's uh throwing he's throwing coms on his Surface Pro and is definitely

00:21:17.600 --> 00:21:23.520
working on it now so uh uh add lonus

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Tech to uh

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uh so don't worry don't worry Locker Nome will be joining us it's just a

00:21:29.360 --> 00:21:34.360
matter of getting the uh the technical the technical things sort of worked out

00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:37.360
here so let's move into our next topic you want to pick our next topic we got

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Ben Affleck is Batman come on although as long as he

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doesn't do the like I'm Ben Affleck and I have throat

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cancer also I'm a superhero like thing I do that annoyed

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me so much yeah it actually made the movies like aside from that they were

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amazing and he Ledger is basically

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like the best thing to ever happen to Batman or basically my childhood ever uh

00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:14.360
oh I can I can be a Manchild I was like

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wait what I mean uh that movie par I

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loved Dark Knight because okay so dark knight one thing you just mentioned we

00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:24.960
should just talk about how great eath Ledger is for the next 10 minutes and just completely gloss over Ben Affleck I

00:22:22.760 --> 00:22:27.960
actually I saw this on Reddit this is like one of the only times I've actually

00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:33.640
been able to get a newsworthy item from Reddit uh cuz our forum is just too good

00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:35.840
at the moment but uh Heath fleder when

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he was casted as the Joker got a whole bunch of

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flak because of previous movies that he had done 10 Things I Hate About You was

00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:46.320
an awesome movie so whatever he he didn't look like he would

00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:51.080
be able to fit the role very well because of a lot of the previous roles that he had done so he got a ton of flak

00:22:49.760 --> 00:22:56.039
now that being said I don't think he's gotten as much flak as Ben Affleck but

00:22:53.600 --> 00:22:59.480
so there's B Affleck I mean I understand that Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a

00:22:57.520 --> 00:23:05.279
pretty boy and got the he's got the chin dimple yeah he's he's got the chin

00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:08.240
diple so we give him full marks for a

00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:12.440
chin I just that matters a lot on Batman I know but I don't see him as an

00:23:09.919 --> 00:23:17.200
Unstoppable badass and that and you're going to put him next to

00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:22.600
Superman so like Batman's already the redheaded stepchild of of that

00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:24.360
particular superhero team up and uh

00:23:22.600 --> 00:23:29.720
speaking of speaking of superhero team ups and redheaded stepchilds and Batman

00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:31.840
versus Superman um this out so this was

00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:36.480
a Vsauce video that I don't know if you guys have had a chance to check out but

00:23:33.919 --> 00:23:42.360
I I quite enjoyed it so there's an ad running here right now but uh oh wait

00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.880
I'm not monitoring at all am I think it's

00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:50.159
working I have no idea what the audio level is like but anyway the point is

00:23:47.679 --> 00:23:55.360
check it out it's on Vsauce 3 and it's what if Superman punched you and this

00:23:52.919 --> 00:23:59.559
came up um in no small part because of the upcoming Batman Superman crossover

00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:05.039
is like how helpless is is Batman let's go Batman versus Superman

00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:10.360
he loses cuz the stupid arguments have been like oh well Batman can afford

00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:14.480
Kryptonite if he has like Kryptonite that star things that he can throw at

00:24:12.320 --> 00:24:19.159
him how do you hit Superman with a star yeah it's not going to

00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:23.120
happen like he's super I mean honestly that's one of the things that's bothered

00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:28.440
me about Superman a lot how does he how well no it's that

00:24:25.919 --> 00:24:33.000
well he's too imba and then he he's like defeated by his own just it's not even

00:24:30.360 --> 00:24:38.039
like defeated by his hubris or his tragic flaw or anything like that it's

00:24:35.360 --> 00:24:42.039
like defeated by sheer utter stupidity but yeah that's the argument as to why

00:24:40.320 --> 00:24:47.080
Batman could possibly win is Batman's the opposite he always wins by his

00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:52.480
intelligence and planning and cunning you can be as cunning as you want but if

00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:54.159
someone like punches so hard that they

00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:58.440
could like hit the Earth on the opposite side of the world as you and the shock

00:24:56.120 --> 00:25:03.840
wave that hit you would like you know bust you up then I mean he's got laser

00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:07.399
eyes but what if he what if he never gets a chance why does Superman never

00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:12.120
get why does he ever get close to anything he should just laser eye

00:25:09.320 --> 00:25:16.200
everything I mean he's Superman so it's not like oh well his laser eyes might

00:25:14.159 --> 00:25:22.480
hurt an innocent bystander well then he should like lasery the tire of the car

00:25:19.120 --> 00:25:24.600
so perfectly that like right like there

00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:29.200
should never Superman's an idiot he always gets in terrible

00:25:27.399 --> 00:25:34.799
terrible situations Superman's a dumb jock yeah and and and Batman is the very

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:38.960
intelligent cunning planning person so Superman just runs

00:25:36.399 --> 00:25:44.159
around and that's actually Indiana Jones that you were going for there you know

00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:46.840
what Indiana Jones versus either of them

00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:52.799
go what oh man see Batman always sets up

00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:55.760
situations if you set up a situation with all his blinging amounts of money

00:25:54.200 --> 00:26:00.120
and bought all the Kryptonite ever he might actually be able to win but if you

00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:04.200
put in a small closed room and had a fist fight which is apparently your

00:26:01.919 --> 00:26:06.720
description of it then yeah Superman's obviously going to

00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:13.320
win okay now if Batman is Ben

00:26:10.919 --> 00:26:18.279
Affleck I don't know then we're maybe giving Batman too

00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:23.279
much is what you're trying to say I I like Ben Affleck but I don't know if he

00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:27.440
fits this role now he can surprise me like Heath Ledger that would be awesome

00:26:25.679 --> 00:26:31.559
man Heath Ledger's awesome I I wish Heath Ledger wasn't dead me too it's not

00:26:29.760 --> 00:26:37.960
often that I kind of sit around going I wish someone wasn't dead but I I wish

00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:39.480
Heath Ledger wasn't dead oh man I I I I

00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:47.520
have confidence in Ben Affleck I think he can do something I do like him but I

00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:49.799
don't know it's not exactly his style of

00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:54.159
role yeah all right you introduce our next topic I got a thing going on here

00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:59.200
all right one second so Oculus is looking to

00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:03.919
solve simulator sickness simulator sickness is not like motion sickness

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:07.840
motion sickness is when um there's all this motion but you can't visually

00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:11.279
perceive things moving stimulator sickness is when you visually perceive

00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:15.480
things moving and there's not all this motion so it has been giving people a

00:27:14.080 --> 00:27:19.679
lot of dizzy spells a lot of headaches people have thrown up stuff like that so

00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:23.279
they're trying to solve the problem um they haven't yet but they are working on

00:27:21.679 --> 00:27:27.039
it and they do think that they can grow towards the goal of at least reducing it

00:27:25.159 --> 00:27:30.840
to an incredible degree where it won't be that big of a problem because right

00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:35.440
now it is fairly common for people to get simulator sickness did you get it

00:27:33.600 --> 00:27:40.360
when we tried out the Omni and the Oculus I did not but you didn't e no one

00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:45.080
did right uh I of our group I felt a little bit motion sick but I don't know

00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:48.720
if like it was it was at the beginning and then it kind of went away so I don't

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:54.840
think it another thing for us though is that that wasn't fair we were

00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:56.960
moving oh okay cuz I thought about this

00:27:54.840 --> 00:28:00.000
we were we were not sitting planted in a chair we were moving around

00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:04.960
and one thing that people have talked about is one of the things people have been doing with oculus rift is put out

00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:10.120
interesting experiments while they'll have people lay down and then have them

00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:14.120
like fall in the game I see and then they feel like they're falling and kind

00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:19.039
of freak out a little bit um and that is going to be interesting

00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:24.080
cuz you're not moving at all but you're falling so your mind is going to freak

00:28:21.679 --> 00:28:28.240
out especially fast movement so if you whip around or if you're on a roller

00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:32.279
coaster and you go down and your body isn't moving your head is supposed to

00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.960
mess up so so we don't actually have the proper what I was thinking about with

00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.840
this is that I would join the chat too and then you can monitor through

00:28:37.120 --> 00:28:46.679
there uh that works okay sure okay um so okay

00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:50.600
on the other hand this could be great for guys like virtuix with the Omni

00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:56.159
which is the uh for those of you who don't aren't familiar with the virtuix Omni it's the omnidirectional treadmill

00:28:53.960 --> 00:29:00.279
that is intended to allow you to move around and walk around and run around

00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:05.120
sort of like running and gunning with oculus rift um so if it ends up being

00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:09.640
that you kind of have to move to use Oculus this is going to be great for the

00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:13.080
physical condition of Gamers everywhere and great for companies that want to

00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:16.960
make accessories for for products like Oculus so and not that Omni wasn't

00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:21.559
already legit but this just makes it so much more legit because if if you are

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:26.840
someone who is afflicted by simulator sickness you can get an omni and solve

00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:29.000
that problem hopefully very very cool

00:29:26.840 --> 00:29:32.440
okay let's do one more topic before we uh we break for our sponsor break for

00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:37.399
Squarespace and then we're going to bring Chris pillo in after the break so

00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:43.039
uh go for it I've just got one more quick thing to do here this is another fairly short one so we'll try and keep

00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:49.919
it to that I can I don't remember exactly what it stands for it's like uh

00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:53.080
I'll try and find it but um I can has

00:29:49.919 --> 00:29:54.279
banned dotless domains Google was trying

00:29:53.080 --> 00:30:01.000
to get HTTP search no www.n.com

00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:06.279
and it hasn't happened yet there aren't any yet but they have preemptively

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.640
banned them um this is apparently a

00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:12.840
really big deal I personally don't really care that much because browsers have this really good ability to auto

00:30:10.760 --> 00:30:16.120
Correct things so it's actually really not that big of a deal if you just type

00:30:14.320 --> 00:30:22.559
in search it'll find it anyways and that's dotless so I'm not too worried

00:30:18.760 --> 00:30:24.960
about the exact domain personally um but

00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:30.279
apparently a lot of people are Google kind of seems to think it's a big deal

00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:32.320
but I can't and I can talks so I can

00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:37.519
does they are the internet Corporation for assigned names and numbers which is

00:30:35.360 --> 00:30:40.720
kind of the driest thing I've ever heard in my life I remember that it was

00:30:39.159 --> 00:30:44.399
ridiculous but I didn't remember exactly what it was assign names and numbers

00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:51.559
isn't that big of a deal but internet Corporation I find hilarious um yeah

00:30:49.159 --> 00:30:54.600
okay you know what I've got uh I've got Chris calling in right now so we're

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:59.840
going to go ahead and move to that and we'll do our sponsor break afterwards so

00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:08.240
uh yep I'm going to add slick to the conversation as well here so here we go

00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:10.799
yep and wherever he is there we go add

00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:16.320
friend and in theory we should be able to monitor things

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:20.320
so here we go slick

00:31:16.320 --> 00:31:24.000
pickup hey y Chris can you hear us I can

00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:26.240
hear you hey hey that's fantastic so uh

00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:29.320
say hello to the W show I guess and if you could do a brief introduction of

00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:34.679
yourself for those who have been living under a rock and have never heard of you

00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:41.320
that would be fantastic as well hello world I'm Chris pillo AKA Locker Nome on

00:31:38.840 --> 00:31:45.399
YouTube although I guess formerly known as Locker Nome on YouTube since they've

00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:51.760
recently switched me over to my real name I am officially Chris Perillo and

00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:59.679
if anything I create videos on a daily basis revolving around geek culture not

00:31:56.679 --> 00:32:02.120
just technology but well beyond it if I

00:31:59.679 --> 00:32:06.279
did nothing but talk about technology I don't think I would be married and uh

00:32:04.840 --> 00:32:10.480
you know that's that's a good thing I think I'm happily married and turning my

00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:16.440
wife into a geek we just recently started watching Doctor Who I I got her

00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:20.960
to watch Star Wars for the first time uh a few weeks back and we've documented

00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:26.399
the entire experience so for me it's about living a geek lifestyle and uh you

00:32:24.159 --> 00:32:30.840
know loving geek culture and so the videos that I produce tend to revolve

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:35.919
around that I'm just going to start out by saying that I'm very impressed

00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:38.080
because um I have managed to get my wife

00:32:35.919 --> 00:32:42.559
to watch Star Wars with me but she fell asleep during each movie so she's

00:32:40.679 --> 00:32:46.360
actually only seen about the first third of each movie from the original trilogy

00:32:44.679 --> 00:32:50.360
meaning she's only probably seen one Star Wars movie sort

00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:55.320
of ouch yeah I I uh I had explained over

00:32:53.399 --> 00:33:00.559
and over again that she would understand so much more about me and of course the

00:32:58.600 --> 00:33:03.399
jokes that I would make uh if she watched the movies and that was enough

00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:08.200
motivation to get her through it and she enjoyed them a

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.279
lot that is uh that is fantastic and

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:15.559
that's very cool so for those of you guys who don't know how to follow Chris

00:33:13.399 --> 00:33:18.919
he's available on Twitter he's available on YouTube I think he's probably one of

00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.760
the easiest guys in the world to get in touch with because if you just Google

00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:27.519
his name there's all kinds of great results speaking of which Chris on

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:31.679
Twitter the other day I saw a fantastic twe tweet of a picture of you on the

00:33:29.639 --> 00:33:37.080
front of a VHS cassette can you tell us a little about that yeah that was uh

00:33:34.399 --> 00:33:41.840
during a brief run of hosting a a television show that on a network that

00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.799
no longer exists and uh during a part of

00:33:41.840 --> 00:33:49.159
that stint we this is of course back in the day when VHS was

00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:53.440
state-of-the-art we recorded a in an afternoon's time how to how to use your

00:33:51.399 --> 00:33:58.639
computer and this is right before Windows XP had been released and someone

00:33:56.159 --> 00:34:02.559
found this VHS tape at a garage sale and took a picture of it I got a kick out of

00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:08.079
it it's it's kind of cute I've got a couple of them left I guess they're

00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:10.679
antiques I mean I I I have VHS tapes but

00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:14.399
no VCR in the house or maybe I do somewhere I don't know it it could be I

00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:18.879
mean if you're if you're anything like me there's probably a VCR but it would

00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:23.119
take you years to find it so now that's the thing about technology is it's fun

00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:27.240
and it's interesting but it's outdated so quickly and it's one of the reasons

00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:31.159
why like with my YouTube channel I've evolved to addressing more of geek

00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:37.440
culture so like Star Wars is not going out of style anytime soon nor is Doctor

00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:39.440
Who or or Lego bricks in fact Lego sets

00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:44.560
appreciate in value compared to technology which usually loses value

00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:46.079
over time so it's it's speaks very much

00:34:44.560 --> 00:34:52.240
to you know one of the reasons why I've taken the approach of of tapping into my

00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:54.720
inner geek and letting my geek flag fly

00:34:52.240 --> 00:35:00.640
in social media and you know what's funny is I've not only is technology

00:34:58.359 --> 00:35:05.119
more relevant moving forward from a uh from a dollar amount value perspective

00:35:03.359 --> 00:35:09.760
but I've also observed that it's more relevant um or sorry technology becomes

00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:13.560
less relevant from a value perspective but geek culture it doesn't do that same

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:19.680
thing and what I've noticed is if you check out my YouTube channel three of my

00:35:16.720 --> 00:35:25.000
four top videos ever in terms of views are unboxings and overviews of a remote

00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:30.000
control fir Tru a remote control excavator and the parrot AR drone even

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:35.320
though I'm a strictly computer channel so to speak yeah you know I I had the

00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:42.200
same Revelation uh some of my better traffic videos had to do with uh my Lego

00:35:38.839 --> 00:35:45.760
sets my the Lego Death Star Lego

00:35:42.200 --> 00:35:48.560
atat uh you Star Wars Lego geekiness you

00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:53.079
know and I'm like okay uh I need to be more of

00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:56.680
myself one of the things that surprised me the most uh I went down to Science

00:35:54.720 --> 00:35:58.920
World and they had a huge Lego exhibit and I started looking around and then I

00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:03.480
noticed that everyone else looking around was about as old as me which was

00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.200
interesting and like there was some kids there but the adults were the most

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:10.480
interested and then you go down to the Lego store in Vancouver and it's a whole

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:15.480
bunch of adults and a whole bunch of kids so it's it's one of those things that you can still enjoy when you're

00:36:13.160 --> 00:36:20.480
older too y'all got to come down for Brick con it happens in October in

00:36:17.319 --> 00:36:22.440
Seattle and it is amazing it is a Lego a

00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:27.760
festival really but it's done more for a Falls or adult fans of Lego and the the

00:36:25.839 --> 00:36:33.680
structures that people make are just so fantastic like a scale model to Min

00:36:30.359 --> 00:36:36.200
figures to of the Hogwarts Castle or a

00:36:33.680 --> 00:36:40.040
full tower orth uh from The Lord of the Rings not the official set but like a my

00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.119
own creation build I mean it's just it is so incredible to see the creativity

00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:47.720
that comes out of of people you know when you when you give them the right

00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:52.680
tools and and that's the beauty of technology today is you know we're

00:36:49.880 --> 00:37:00.440
evolving like with arduinos and you know really uh raspberry pies lowc cost easy

00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:03.839
to use configurable moldable you know

00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:06.119
you can make anything that your mind can

00:37:03.839 --> 00:37:09.599
handle right and you're not limited by the tool set in front of you and I I

00:37:07.680 --> 00:37:14.160
look at I guess I look at Lego bricks for as non- Tech as they are in much the

00:37:11.720 --> 00:37:17.920
same way as I do arduinos and in in raspberry pies they're building blocks

00:37:16.319 --> 00:37:22.880
right can make something yeah where things are it's it's almost like we're coming full circle because in the early

00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:27.680
days of electronics and Computing everything was DIY and then things got

00:37:25.720 --> 00:37:31.160
kind of too complicated and the tools didn't really catch up to the point

00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:36.359
where nothing it felt like nothing was DIY for a while there and then now we're

00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:41.000
getting back into it with highly programmable things like Arduino and

00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:45.720
with some I mean some of the cool DIY type projects that I've seen turned into

00:37:43.240 --> 00:37:51.680
real products like I had um uh it's called The O2 amplifier and basically

00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:56.160
these are DIY headphone amps that are just built by like a dude who designed

00:37:54.599 --> 00:38:00.119
it and was like oh well I see a bunch of problems with the commercially ailable

00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:04.240
products so I'm going to fix it outstanding I love it and then now

00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:08.480
we're getting into 3D printers and stuff just being able to make your own things and mess around with your own things we

00:38:07.200 --> 00:38:12.760
could be this could be the Golden Age of DIY because even when you were able to

00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:16.000
build your own Electronics 30 years ago 40 years ago and it would be you know

00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:21.800
similar to what you could buy off a shelf now all of a sudden what's always

00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:23.440
been difficult is housings and tooling

00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:28.680
hous and tooling can be 3D printing programming and all that kind of stuff arduinos and raspberry pies blah blah

00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:34.680
blah blah blah you can build out of Les lesbo Lego and 3D

00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:40.440
printing well you look at the the Microsoft talking about uh enabling 3D

00:38:38.640 --> 00:38:45.640
printing by default in future versions of Windows that's pretty powerful stuff

00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:49.880
but pretty Forward Thinking for them yeah but the problem is is that it's got

00:38:47.319 --> 00:38:54.079
to be a lot more consumer friendly and it's just not there yet I've seen a a

00:38:51.720 --> 00:38:57.880
few really amazing Kickstarter projects that would work in theory but the issue

00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:05.240
I have with a lot of Kickstarter projects that have to do with technology is that usually the teams that have

00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:07.599
great ideas suck on execution I mean you

00:39:05.240 --> 00:39:14.520
look at you know potentially amazing things like the auntu phone which is may

00:39:11.720 --> 00:39:19.160
go somewhere but didn't really make its Mark in terms of community backing um

00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:23.319
you know there's there's sometimes a disconnect between the value of

00:39:21.160 --> 00:39:26.480
technology and the consumer adoption of technology and whether or not they

00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:31.040
actually see the value in something absolutely I mean I know we haven't even

00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:35.960
managed to talk about any of our of our topics on the dock yet but I know you're

00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:42.200
a star no no it's as much us as you and I'm about to derail us again so as much

00:39:38.680 --> 00:39:44.880
of a Star Wars geek as you are

00:39:42.200 --> 00:39:49.480
Disney you know initially I had a knee-jerk reaction and gagged but uh you

00:39:47.839 --> 00:39:56.760
know I really have appreciated the way they've handled uh some superhero movies

00:39:53.160 --> 00:39:59.440
um and and and certainly appreciated the

00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:04.480
bringing on J.J Abrams appreciated the work that he's done Disney can Market

00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:10.520
they can franchise and the they've come out and said they understand that fans

00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:14.000
want them to go back to the basics think about the fans at the center of this

00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:18.160
universe not necessarily the technology that empowers movies and special effects

00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:23.000
and so I I think their heart is definitely in the right place they realize it's their game to lose and you

00:40:21.200 --> 00:40:27.560
really can't screw up much more than the prequels although the more I watch the

00:40:25.520 --> 00:40:33.280
prequels the happier I am with them so I'm I'm very very um I'm very positive

00:40:31.640 --> 00:40:37.480
that Disney will treat the Star Wars franchise better than I think Lucas

00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:40.040
could okay but look at what happened I mean okay I'm going to play Devil's

00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:44.599
Advocate because I don't necessarily disagree with you but look at even

00:40:42.319 --> 00:40:49.560
something that's an original Ip that they have like Pirates of the Caribbean

00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:52.680
first film I I have no idea how many times I've watched that movie I've

00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:58.319
completely lost count it got progressively so much worse because it

00:40:55.680 --> 00:41:02.839
seems like oh come on oh at you're not going to tell me movies

00:41:01.319 --> 00:41:08.319
three and four shouldn't have been one movie are you I well yeah I guess no I

00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:12.880
enjoyed four I mean it was it was different but I I didn't not enjoy it

00:41:11.040 --> 00:41:16.880
I've enjoyed every single Pirates of the Caribbean movie I enjoyed them but I

00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:21.680
didn't rewatch them the way that I rewatched one and the way that I've

00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:25.160
rewatched original trilogy Star Wars really that's I'm on the same level as

00:41:23.839 --> 00:41:30.240
him actually I did really enjoy them they're really good movies but the first one was epic and the other ones were

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:34.040
just very enjoyable and for me it really felt go I found the third one more epic

00:41:32.680 --> 00:41:40.520
than the first one I guess for Pirates of the Caribbean I I I liked the scale of the

00:41:38.200 --> 00:41:44.920
third one like the epicness was there yes I'll give you that but it felt like

00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:50.359
to me the problem was they they broke their own rules for the sake of epicness

00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.560
in the first movie we exist in sort of a

00:41:50.359 --> 00:41:58.040
pretty normal world except for this cursed ship and then it seems like it

00:41:54.720 --> 00:42:00.000
just goes so to speak off the deep end

00:41:58.040 --> 00:42:04.359
in the movies that come later and it's something that you know you look at the

00:42:01.640 --> 00:42:08.839
really great franchises like Harry Potter Harry Potter for the most part

00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:13.880
never breaks its own rules that it established right at the beginning it it

00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:17.800
allows it to okay so here go ahead go ahead but but they're with Harry Potter

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:21.359
they were going from a script they were going from an overall Arc and I don't

00:42:20.040 --> 00:42:27.680
know if they expected to do the same thing with Pirates of the Caribbean until it was found to be a commercial

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.720
success okay so Star Wars are we going to give them the benefit of

00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:35.079
the doubt and go okay if they're going to say yearly releases and big

00:42:33.160 --> 00:42:40.200
Productions every two years are they going to be working 20 years out on a

00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:47.160
story arc I'm guessing that well maybe not story arc but they if if they are

00:42:44.200 --> 00:42:51.520
faithful to at least adhering to the notion of not breaking Cannon then I

00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:56.880
think they'll be fine but the moment you step outside that boundary like Star

00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:59.119
Wars was okay A New Hope Was Meant To Be

00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:05.440
A Standalone right in the middle of this 12 story monolith that Lucas had in his

00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:10.359
head in fact recently at at a Star Wars celebration in Europe Mark Hamill had

00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:14.200
suggested that originally Lucas was going to have the Death Star around

00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:16.800
forever but he blew it up in a new hope uh and then of course brought it back in

00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:20.520
return to the Jedi but originally it was just supposed to be one one Death Star

00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:26.440
he had to make ches because he wasn't sure it was going to be successful so

00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.319
you know I think he violated canon in

00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:32.000
and of itself by going back and establishing a prequel or trying to give

00:43:30.040 --> 00:43:36.559
you a backstory of Anakin Skywalker and who he was but I mean I wouldn't have

00:43:34.640 --> 00:43:43.400
minded An Origin story for Anakin Skywalker if once again they hadn't

00:43:39.160 --> 00:43:45.440
broken their own rules the force is it

00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:50.359
surrounds us it binds the Galaxy together it does all these things it's

00:43:47.359 --> 00:43:52.960
mysterious it's not medoran right right

00:43:50.359 --> 00:43:58.400
okay so like I said Luc that's Lucas's problem Lucas he broke his own rules

00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:01.760
okay but Lucas is not Disney

00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:04.359
too what Lucas wants I think they'll

00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:09.079
succeed so should we be more scared that he's a creative consultant or more

00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:13.319
comforted here here's a movie to watch the people versus George Lucas watch it

00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:18.200
on Netflix if you're finished watching battl Star Galactica in Doctor

00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:23.280
Who okay I you know what I'm even gonna I'm even G to put that in my document

00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.599
here so the people versus George Lucas I

00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:30.720
haven't watched it although I do have a Netflix account I got it with my chomecast so my my dogs actually make it

00:44:28.680 --> 00:44:34.040
brief Cameo at the beginning of the uh the video I dressed him up as Darth

00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:38.400
Vader and Princess Leia but it was a a video that went viral a while ago has

00:44:36.680 --> 00:44:42.400
nothing to do with technology that's what's popular again

00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.359
again nothing to do with technology again nothing to do with technology okay

00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:52.119
so did you have a chance to check out some of the uh things in the dock that we labeled Locker Nome uh I saw the

00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:57.599
entire document and actually was it was intrigued greatly all right so why don't

00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:03.880
we get into space glasses I want to hear what you think of this um the space

00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:05.839
glasses.com versus Google Glass do they

00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:08.960
have a chance um do you mind if I actually play this video for the viewers

00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.760
so that they have a really good idea what we're talking about here you should

00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:16.920
all right let's play this video cuz if you guys haven't seen this you are going

00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:19.119
to have your socks rocked right off right

00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:29.920
now boom oh yeah

00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:35.800
I don't even know if the uh viewers have audio right now but I I don't think it

00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:35.800
matters that

00:45:43.839 --> 00:45:47.839
much unreal

00:46:02.319 --> 00:46:09.640
I mean you got to be geeking out over that right there hey Chris you know it's interesting but yeah

00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:15.040
let me see the final product cuz this is all Pie in the Sky to

00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:17.920
me it's all shut up and take my money until you actually use it and then it's

00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.359
a different story you know that's I think you know

00:46:20.200 --> 00:46:26.440
okay I'm going to I'm going to just I'm going to pause this now I'm going to switch back to let's let's discuss what

00:46:24.359 --> 00:46:30.680
we've seen so far because I think that's something that you and I are very much

00:46:28.160 --> 00:46:35.319
on the same page about is that a lot of the viewers don't understand that it's

00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:39.200
actually not all fun in games doing what we do and playing with the latest

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:44.319
technology you know I'd say a good three times out of four it just doesn't work

00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:47.680
even well three times out of four yeah that's probably G that's probably being

00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:52.240
pretty generous that's very generous I mean it looks great but dude that's

00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:56.640
that's total marketing video that's like wow amazing total marketing video

00:46:54.520 --> 00:47:00.920
they're also huge that was one of the first things I noticed is they're very

00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:03.520
very large and really unsightly so I don't actually see that many people

00:47:02.319 --> 00:47:06.559
wearing them especially they showed the professional environment where he shaking hands with all the different

00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:12.160
people and they were basically introducing themselves uh verbally and

00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.920
through the images that the uh what do they called space glasses were putting

00:47:13.319 --> 00:47:18.640
up but in a professional environment do you really expect your boss to show up

00:47:16.359 --> 00:47:23.480
with this giant headgear so let's talk about the culture of these wearable

00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:27.920
glasses um first and then let's jump into meta's product versus and I think

00:47:26.359 --> 00:47:31.640
their logo looks like meth it looks like meth it looks like meth anyway um so

00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:37.920
let's talk about meta versus Google Glass and how that's all going to shake down so so

00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:40.400
Chris do you expect it to be acceptable

00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:45.480
to walk into a business meeting even in 5 years from now wearing a wearable

00:47:43.160 --> 00:47:50.160
glasses technology where other people are not necessarily wearing them I mean

00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:53.720
you know how stodgy people can be um are they going to be feel uncomfortable

00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:56.599
because they feel like you're looking them up on Facebook while they're

00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:01.720
sitting there talking to you and is that going to continue to be a stigma even

00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:04.599
five years from now well you know i'

00:48:01.720 --> 00:48:09.520
I've been pretty public in terms of my you know belief in as far as technology

00:48:07.319 --> 00:48:14.400
goes it's going to be in personal wearable technology like Google Glass

00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:19.440
technolog is becoming increasingly pervasive and I think it's a matter of

00:48:16.520 --> 00:48:24.480
time before a good headup display or heads up display is integrated within

00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:27.599
eyewear the challenge I think you have

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:31.280
even even Google has in fact um Russell

00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:33.160
Holly who writes for geek.com uh

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:39.680
recently attended the I think it was a Moto X event it was a Google's own event

00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:42.240
and he was told to remove Google Glass

00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:46.520
so Google didn't even want Google Glass at a Google event and if Google can't

00:48:44.680 --> 00:48:52.240
handle that I don't know how the hell they expect the average person to handle

00:48:48.839 --> 00:48:53.760
that they have stated sorry no go ahead

00:48:52.240 --> 00:48:57.599
uh they have stated though in the past that they they don't expect Google Glass

00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.799
to be able to be worn every uh people were wondering like uh how

00:48:59.799 --> 00:49:05.319
hackable it would be and all this kind of stuff I call [ __ ] come on whoa

00:49:03.319 --> 00:49:11.040
whoa whoa whoa hang on so let me get this straight Google charges beta

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:13.799
testers out the yin-yang to have this

00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:19.079
product and then says well we don't expect you're going to wear it anywhere

00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:21.480
everywhere really that's the whole IDE

00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:26.240
where's not okay and you know what if Google the only okay to me the entire

00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.839
value of a wearable tech like Google Glass is that I do wear it everywhere

00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:35.640
and that it actually becomes part of my life if my smartphone was my tablet then

00:49:33.720 --> 00:49:39.760
I would use it occasionally the same way I do with my tablet the whole point of a

00:49:37.359 --> 00:49:44.680
smartphone to me is it's always in my pocket I can rely on having it if I need

00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:47.920
to use it as a remote control for my TV right now because I always have it and

00:49:46.319 --> 00:49:52.040
it's always charged it's like priority number one when I go to bed isn't even

00:49:50.240 --> 00:49:55.520
brush my teeth it's plug in my smartphone and make sure it's charged

00:49:53.359 --> 00:50:00.440
for tomorrow if I am not wearing Google Glass all the time for a similar product

00:49:58.240 --> 00:50:03.119
then it's it's lost the entire value to me one thing I found that was

00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:07.079
interesting that Chris said was the the charge for beta testers that's hilarious

00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:10.960
the the the price of the product is going to be so much less than what they

00:50:08.799 --> 00:50:15.599
charged to beta testers and here's the thing I see someone wearing Google Glass

00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:21.720
and like okay you have money and you kind of look pretentious I mean I have

00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:26.160
yeah you know it's it's it's a social stigma right now because it people are

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:30.520
living on the bleeding edge and and I get it and it's kind of neat and I tried

00:50:28.520 --> 00:50:34.599
it I I'm very I'm very happy to have tried it I was invited to the Explorer

00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:38.799
program but it was just a little cost prohibitive I thought really am I am I

00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:43.599
going to get my money out of this other than bragging rights for having Google

00:50:41.359 --> 00:50:49.640
Glass and I just couldn't get past that I couldn't figure out how's this fit and

00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:53.440
eventually costs will come down technology will become more usable uh

00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:57.359
you know having it built into prescription lenses I wear glasses

00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:01.839
happily wear glasses I think it will become socially

00:50:59.160 --> 00:51:08.040
acceptable but the Norms today dictate that permission is not

00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:14.040
implicit when you hold a camera up to someone's face they get uncomfortable

00:51:11.160 --> 00:51:19.720
and by you have the right to be filming them at that time they don't like it and

00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:24.920
I don't see people's desire for privacy necessarily actually changing in fact

00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:29.359
the more it's been studied that the more connected people are or the closer that

00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:33.480
you jam them in together actually the more they tend to try to isolate

00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:37.359
themselves in fact it is less common to have a nosy neighbor in an apartment

00:51:35.240 --> 00:51:41.160
building than it is to have one in Suburbia because people get so close to

00:51:40.040 --> 00:51:45.720
the point where they're actually trying to separate themselves from each other

00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:50.599
as opposed to trying to get closer and Snoop yeah I I just think that people

00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:54.920
aren't ready for technology as much much as technology may be ready for people

00:51:52.520 --> 00:51:59.960
there are still social boundaries that I would a great majority of the pop are

00:51:57.160 --> 00:52:04.440
not ready to have violated if if they take the camera out and like Chris said

00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.880
are able to integrate it into prescription glasses that look like

00:52:06.040 --> 00:52:12.160
prescription glasses that's where I'm sold I don't want a camera in them at

00:52:09.640 --> 00:52:15.599
all because that's just creepy and weird I want no camera I want them to look

00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:19.160
just like prescription glasses but you just want augmented reality exactly yeah

00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:23.960
you could probably sell me that I mean I've said to you quite a few times I am

00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:31.160
in no way interested in the beta thousand stupid thing but I am totally

00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:34.880
interested in Gen 5 gen 10 and person I

00:52:31.160 --> 00:52:38.359
don't want to AR is definitely going to

00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:41.400
work really well but it's not the idea

00:52:38.359 --> 00:52:44.160
it's the execution and Google has a

00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:48.240
chance but they're they're already Sid stepping a lot of those mores and

00:52:46.359 --> 00:52:54.160
expecting society's going to keep up and there's one thing that you cannot change

00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:55.920
with ease and that is culture yes so

00:52:54.160 --> 00:53:00.440
let's go to actually that's a great segue back to space glasses and let's

00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:06.880
talk about seg no I don't have a segue I I never got a segue

00:53:03.359 --> 00:53:10.319
either very funny

00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:13.599
man so let's um let's go back to let's

00:53:10.319 --> 00:53:17.160
go back to MAA here um you mentioned

00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:19.559
just now Google has a chance sorry

00:53:17.160 --> 00:53:24.520
Google has a chance to make it happen do these guys even have a chance because to

00:53:21.520 --> 00:53:26.720
me the advantage of Google is nothing to

00:53:24.520 --> 00:53:31.920
do with the glasses themselves or even to do with the Android operating system

00:53:28.839 --> 00:53:33.680
or to do with a camera or processors or

00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:37.839
anything like that it's all about the ecosystem which is something that quite

00:53:35.720 --> 00:53:44.920
frankly is there anyone other than Google or Apple who could replicate the

00:53:40.160 --> 00:53:46.960
ecosystem that Google has yes young d404

00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:50.760
in your chat rooms he I think he can pull it off because he just said Chris

00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:55.359
pillo is the best guest on the W show ever with three three purple hearts

00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:58.839
three purple hearts he put in there or she I don't know

00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:04.240
point that out I think he or she has the chance of pulling it

00:54:00.680 --> 00:54:08.119
off okay how about space glasses.com

00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:10.839
this guy's Gonna Keep derailing

00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:14.240
me so anyway I just wanted to say I'm W I watched the chat I didn't mean to De

00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:18.160
derail you no I I think you're right and I think Google if anything Google's got

00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:22.960
a lot of data and that's its biggest advantage over Apple Google is a a

00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:26.920
horizontal player versus Apple who's a vertical player which is why I have a

00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:31.520
big problem with anybody uh who dares try to walk into the Android versus iOS

00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:37.359
argument because unfortunately that argument is it's outmoded it doesn't it

00:54:35.319 --> 00:54:40.440
can't exist because I'm For Better or For Worse there are two completely

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:45.480
different Market strategies to the marketplace just like a Windows to OS 10

00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:50.839
to Linux I mean you could talk about operating systems and compare for

00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:52.240
Feature Feature for feature but's in so

00:54:50.839 --> 00:54:56.720
depends on who you are Google has got the biggest advantage in terms of its

00:54:53.880 --> 00:55:00.799
ability to collect data uh and and use that data to their advantage and and

00:54:59.040 --> 00:55:03.559
unfortunately if you're not paying for a product and sometimes if you are paying

00:55:02.359 --> 00:55:06.960
for the product you're the product yourself and that's what Google has it's

00:55:05.640 --> 00:55:12.200
one of the reasons why Google created the inorganic social network or I'm

00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:15.200
sorry social layer Google Plus which I

00:55:12.200 --> 00:55:17.520
do happen to use on a regular basis um

00:55:15.200 --> 00:55:20.359
it was looking to get more data you know Facebook wasn't giving them the data

00:55:18.839 --> 00:55:24.000
Twitter wasn't giving them the data and Apple has almost zero data that it's

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:28.960
willing to give out yep yeah true I actually have

00:55:27.319 --> 00:55:33.720
nothing to really add to all of that because I agree 100% And it honestly it

00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:39.240
kind of irks me I was a longtime iOS user because for me iOS was the answer

00:55:37.200 --> 00:55:43.920
and honestly I still use my iPhone 4 almost every day just as an MP3 player

00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:47.240
and to use a few apps and try some of the new stuff that's coming out so that

00:55:45.240 --> 00:55:51.720
I don't get completely to the point where I don't even know how it works

00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:55.240
anymore um and they're so different and

00:55:51.720 --> 00:55:56.599
they're both so good that they're

00:55:55.240 --> 00:56:02.319
different they're different approaches to the same Marketplace Y and and that's

00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:06.839
really it's so difficult to talk about because for better for worse and hey I'm

00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:10.920
a geek I'm just a different kind of geek I'm sure but people treat technology and

00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:18.319
their choices for technology as if it was a religion what like your life really

00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:21.280
revolves around this piece of technology

00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:27.119
like let's talk about Intel versus AMD yeah come on really are we still it's

00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:32.440
just it doesn't make any sense Protestant versus Catholic I mean go you

00:56:29.720 --> 00:56:36.839
know Big Mac versus Whopper go you're okay well hold on a second I have

00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:42.680
to defend the Whopper here because at least one day of the week is Holy in the

00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:48.520
Whopper religion yes Wednesday when the Whopper gives back to you every

00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:51.440
Wednesday oh by the way D PC Gamer asked

00:56:48.520 --> 00:56:54.520
how old this kid was and this kid is

00:56:54.520 --> 00:57:01.119
40 oh man and he loves both Big Macs and Whoppers

00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:06.720
and you know what that's okay he loves both Android and iOS actually likes

00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:08.960
Windows phone too you know what you guys

00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:12.760
I got to step in here and I need to do a Twitter Blitz for Chris so we're going

00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:17.599
to hit one more topic and I want you guys to hit us at linch on Twitter go

00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:21.559
there right now and uh oh yeah just a reminder I forgot to mention this before

00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:25.559
all of our call-in guests are powered by Razer commoms downloaded at the bit.ly

00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:28.960
link here please do it helps us out a whole lot hit me on Twitter with your

00:57:27.319 --> 00:57:32.839
questions for Chris we're going to have him Blitz through some questions for you

00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:36.400
guys because uh as you said he is definitely one of the more fantastic

00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:41.079
guests we've had I don't want to I don't want to you know diss any of our other guests but Chris you're awesome one

00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:46.039
question I saw I didn't catch who who asked it but Christianity versus i7 I'm

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:53.799
gonna have to give this one I'm gonna have to give this one to the core i7

00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:53.799
honestly done a lot for me

00:57:54.200 --> 00:57:59.880
sorry I don't want to go into just now

00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:04.039
that I've totally usurped the uh show I apologize I I bring you back to your

00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:07.880
regularly scheduled programming you know what no I'm going to we're going to keep

00:58:05.680 --> 00:58:15.319
the religious debate going because if you can't see it does it exist LG has a

00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:19.640
new display it's what it is it's a religious debate it's it's like no it's

00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:25.559
Android all the way and anybody who doesn't believe is going to burn in hell

00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:28.160
like really like are you serious so wait

00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:32.839
you're telling me that I have to live by your choices okay I'm fine with that I'm

00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:40.640
fine with living by your choices the moment you start paying my bills that's

00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:44.599
right okay so if you can't see it does

00:58:40.640 --> 00:58:50.839
it exist the LG display that they are

00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:52.319
showing off is a 2560 by 1440 5.5 in

00:58:50.839 --> 00:58:58.720
smartphone screen although we'll probably kind of have to call it a fablet at that point um Chris how do you

00:58:56.520 --> 00:59:04.359
feel as someone who wears glasses no less about the race to higher

00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:09.760
resolutions is this just a dick measuring contest from the manufacturers

00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:15.920
is it just a fanboyism thing from the consumers that keep pushing for higher

00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.920
and higher resolutions

00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:26.680
go oh hold on Chris you're breaking up give us a second let's just

00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:31.039
uh yeah give me give me a second here I'm just going to restart the voice chat

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:35.680
ons here okay okay sorry give me a sec don't

00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:38.960
worry guys we'll be back to uh your uh our scheduled programming very very

00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:43.520
shortly reg regularly scheduled entertainment yeah which I hope is very

00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:47.960
entertaining for you guys cuz I am definitely having an absolute blast

00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:53.880
anyone who joined late is like what religious debate what I know right what

00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:59.799
what's happening okay so hold on a second there there it goes there it goes

00:59:56.359 --> 01:00:01.880
okay we uh almost have liftoff here guys

00:59:59.799 --> 01:00:05.839
so uh Chris will be back in just a moment as long as we're not uh as long

01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:11.319
as we're not dropping frames we're still on right like we're still live maybe we

01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:13.119
got hit by the the the wrath of LG

01:00:11.319 --> 01:00:16.559
screens we're still live okay so it's not our connection this time fortunately

01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:20.240
for those of you who are tuning in late we're streaming from my house again

01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:26.039
because we haven't had a chance to get um to diagnose with Shaw yet or have a

01:00:23.200 --> 01:00:32.240
new ISP come in and uh get things going for us so chat with uh chat with friend

01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:37.480
uh no no no I'll add you you're adding me yep think I can do that cuz you're

01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:45.160
still in right yeah okay so go ahead and invite me maybe I can't do that oh hold

01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:48.520
on I'm still in okay boom yay yay so

01:00:45.160 --> 01:00:50.039
you're back first of all let me address

01:00:48.520 --> 01:00:55.319
the person who accused me of being a sylon in the chat I am not a frack and

01:00:52.760 --> 01:01:00.359
toaster get that through thick skull okay and if you disagree you and me are

01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:05.760
going to have words uh second of all I think you know we increase screen

01:01:03.640 --> 01:01:11.400
resolution it's a law of diminishing returns quite honestly and anybody who

01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:13.680
can see the differences uh I I would

01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:19.200
they've got very very finely attuned eyes because I can't and unfortunately

01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:24.400
they're pushing pushing these resolutions very high and that's great I

01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:30.160
love Sharp Images sharp text sharp screens the problem is the video

01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:36.480
processor or just the CPU just can't keep up and so you end up with a subpar

01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:39.000
experience and to me technology in a

01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:43.599
device in my hand or in front of my face it's all about the experience forget the

01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:48.599
specs 100% absolutely forget the specs I'm I'm someone who I I know I'm an

01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:52.640
outlier but I I believe in specs to a certain degree but without proper

01:01:50.640 --> 01:01:58.559
execution what's the point I've had great Hardware in crappy software and

01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:01.400
this to me is exactly why the guys like

01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:05.520
LG who are releasing this oh there's the problem so I need to boost this one

01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:11.880
right very good all right to me the problem is guys like LG who were sort of

01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:17.200
I mean look how much earlier was LG in phones than Apple or Google if they got

01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:23.559
it if they understood that it's not about the next 5 1/2 in 1080P screen and

01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:29.039
it's actually about the experience there would have been no room for guys like

01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:30.960
Apple or Google to bust in and Caron in

01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:37.279
this market if Samsung had understood if Sony had understood and and that to me

01:02:34.520 --> 01:02:42.119
is why Google is allowed to exist and that is why Google and Motorola may be

01:02:39.720 --> 01:02:46.000
the one to look out for as opposed to even Samsung in the long run on the

01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:52.319
Android platform I I wouldn't count Samsung out yet uh with teas or taisen

01:02:50.160 --> 01:02:57.039
how do you say it is it teasing or tysen I have no idea well you know what I'm

01:02:55.039 --> 01:03:02.039
talking about though right yes okay this is the open source platform being

01:02:59.319 --> 01:03:07.480
codeveloped by both Samsung and Intel just to give context for those who who

01:03:03.520 --> 01:03:10.319
may not be aware I think Samsung has

01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:14.119
done more to help Android than Google believe it or not and with Samsung

01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:21.119
potentially dropping I gotta cut you off here do you mean in terms of market share and

01:03:17.720 --> 01:03:23.400
acceptance and marketing then yes

01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:27.559
absolutely y because Google was seem to be content to let it be for nerds don't

01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:31.839
don't wrong I think they're spraying and praying uh with Samsung producing as

01:03:30.240 --> 01:03:36.359
many devices as it does it doesn't surprise me that it has the the market

01:03:33.520 --> 01:03:40.079
share that it that it does command uh you know but they're they're going to be

01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:44.559
dropping Android and and Android is just a means to an end for Samsung and to a

01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:50.359
certain degree Android is just a means to an end for Google uh open is great

01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:55.359
when it's a marketing term uh but Google is you know not I don't think they they

01:03:53.400 --> 01:04:00.279
haven't been as open as they claim to be or been we discussed this last week

01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:04.839
actually in fact uh the whole Fiasco with Microsoft and Google and the

01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.079
YouTube app is really a window into some

01:04:04.839 --> 01:04:10.920
of the things that are changing at Google right now we feel and well it's

01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:16.880
true and Google is and I think Danny Sullivan put put it best he called

01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:19.880
Google clopen which is I guess

01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:22.520
a so they're horses

01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:26.440
CL yeah you can say that no more like the words Clos and open put together I

01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:31.400
know what he meant this this guy's giving me this look right now well how

01:04:28.359 --> 01:04:35.520
how do you get to horses I had horses as

01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:38.520
a kid oh my goodness okay sorry keep

01:04:35.520 --> 01:04:41.319
going uh is my volume okay by the way

01:04:38.520 --> 01:04:45.799
let me tweak you yeah I love being tweaked that's not exactly like a twerk

01:04:43.240 --> 01:04:48.300
right sounds hot right I wasn't sure I'm I'm still not hit with the kids lingo

01:04:47.640 --> 01:04:51.520
these

01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:59.400
days all right I turned you up yay

01:04:57.200 --> 01:05:04.440
so so okay I think basically we've come to the conclusion that okay I agree with

01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:06.319
you 100% the race to resolution inpcs is

01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:11.039
not the be all and end all I'm interested to see what Samsung and Intel

01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:13.240
come up with however the thing that I

01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:20.960
still am not necessarily convinced that they understand is the experience on the

01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:22.839
software side Intel is not a software

01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:27.880
company and Samsung is not a software company and you look at their entire

01:05:25.799 --> 01:05:31.599
history of products I don't think either of them has produced anything worth a

01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:37.240
lick when it comes to software no offense I I no I completely agree I do

01:05:34.839 --> 01:05:42.079
not like the TouchWiz experience on Android devices at all uh I think it's

01:05:39.799 --> 01:05:45.960
completely unoptimized much talk about Intel Vive if we all want to be old

01:05:44.160 --> 01:05:50.400
about things for a bit here well I didn't want to trip too far

01:05:48.200 --> 01:05:56.000
down memory lane oh and speaking of I someone just

01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:59.359
said well I don't know what it was exactly but they keep bringing up a

01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:06.079
Nintendo 3DS XL um it was released uh you know just

01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:08.720
recently that uh the Google Play Store

01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:12.799
and iOS app store are cleaning the clock of mobile console gaming I think it's

01:06:10.720 --> 01:06:18.400
just a matter of time before Nintendo has to give up and start licensing their

01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:20.799
titles to uh uh various platforms I get

01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:25.240
a lot of black I get a lot of flack for this opinion I think NVIDIA Shield is

01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:30.680
potentially the future you know I I don't disagree I I think it's uh you

01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:34.480
know I bought the Ouya and was impressed

01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:36.480
with the idea of the Ouya I think NVIDIA

01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:41.920
captured exactly what needed to be captured now whether or not it's going

01:06:38.640 --> 01:06:43.400
to evolve that way uh I I think I I I

01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:47.920
would I would be inclined to agree I think NVIDIA did a good job with The

01:06:45.240 --> 01:06:54.640
Shield or as good as could be expected um but it's it's got to be uh you know

01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:58.119
something that users are going to think of and grab first and I don't know if

01:06:56.520 --> 01:07:01.160
they're there yet I really don't and that's not to say that a console gamer

01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:06.039
is better than a PC Gamer is better than a mobile gamer they're all Gamers period

01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:11.640
the lon share of the marketplace however are people like me casual gamers Plant

01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:16.599
versus Zombies players well no I don't play I honestly the game video game I

01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:19.000
play Tetris I freaking love Tetris uh

01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:23.160
you know I I I play casual games I pting monsters I pick them up put it down and

01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:27.079
that is most of the market I mean you have extreme Gamers and that's certainly

01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:33.680
a great part of the market it's great entertainment but you know in terms of

01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:35.920
who's spending the money a bigger piece

01:07:33.680 --> 01:07:39.960
of that pie is not being spent on any kind of console gaming that's true and

01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:44.039
new models have developed to take advantage of Hardcore I mean in the old

01:07:41.720 --> 01:07:47.720
model you got to sell them the cartridge and then that was it whereas in new

01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:51.839
models like free to play you can continue to milk those hardcore guys so

01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:56.160
at least it's not a total write off but I think the hardcore guys really

01:07:54.119 --> 01:08:00.880
overestimate um how important they are in the grand scheme of things when it

01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:05.480
comes to companies and balance sheets and

01:08:02.240 --> 01:08:08.319
profitability you know it's it's really

01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:12.720
it's interesting to be at this time uh with technology and where it sits

01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:17.359
specifically in the consumer Marketplace and even we're there with with computers

01:08:14.799 --> 01:08:22.239
in in traditional PCS and I I've caught Flack for my opinion on on PCS as well

01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:28.159
saying you know that they're really kind of being marginalized you know the idea

01:08:25.080 --> 01:08:29.920
of a personal computer uh in a PC in

01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:34.319
general is just going to an extreme part of the market much like you could build

01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:39.560
your own car but are you going to do it most people won't and I've taken Flack

01:08:36.480 --> 01:08:41.560
for that same thing from him you just

01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:45.440
okay if you don't believe me go to Google Trends and search for the word

01:08:43.679 --> 01:08:51.319
computer and see how it's trending downward people are not searching

01:08:48.120 --> 01:08:53.520
consumers 99% of the marketplace are not

01:08:51.319 --> 01:09:00.400
searching for the word computer because their definition and need for a computer

01:08:56.319 --> 01:09:02.799
is changed that eliminates the PC as a

01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:07.920
viable tool to be used and sold in the marketplace which is why Microsoft is

01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:10.520
getting its clock clean and I'm sorry as

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:14.960
much as I think it would help now that Steve Balmer is announced his retirement

01:09:12.440 --> 01:09:20.120
from Microsoft I don't think Microsoft's going to change its ways if only because

01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:24.440
the CEO or even an interim CEO is going to be appointed by the board and be

01:09:22.120 --> 01:09:28.520
signed off on by Bill Gates Steve Balmer and the board so Microsoft's not going

01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:34.759
to bring in someone radically different and unfortunately this is It's A Hard

01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:36.880
truth but you have to accept that the

01:09:34.759 --> 01:09:40.920
world doesn't need Windows as much as Windows needs the world and Microsoft's

01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:45.279
been operating from a completely different perspective which is exactly

01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:50.839
why we have this monstrosity this Frankenstein's monster that's known as

01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:54.040
Windows 8 or even worse Windows

01:09:50.839 --> 01:09:55.480
RT I I I agree with a lot hold on I

01:09:54.040 --> 01:09:58.920
would make the argument that we don't really have Windows RT because no one

01:09:57.120 --> 01:10:04.600
owns a device that has it on it okay you said it not me um I I agree

01:10:03.080 --> 01:10:10.679
with a lot of that but not quite all of it with the new consoles coming out PC gaming is getting bigger now PCS as a

01:10:08.679 --> 01:10:14.600
consumer device I think might kind of float away but they might become more of

01:10:12.440 --> 01:10:18.360
a dedicated gaming machine exactly like said we don't need Windows for that it's

01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:22.719
like building your own car except building your own car if it was easy

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.960
yeah so it it should still have more penetration than custombuilt handmade

01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:30.600
cars but you know the the we might be looking

01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:35.120
at the end of the HP Desktop and Best Buy being relevant I have no issue with

01:10:32.679 --> 01:10:38.640
it all and and I think that uh you know Microsoft's they're they're hedging

01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:43.239
their bets uh and I think they're taking the wrong their heart's in the right

01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:47.360
place but unfortunately they're going to price themselves out of the market uh

01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:51.520
the Xbox one they position it in such a way that it's an entertainment console

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:59.560
which is great the problem is I think the PS4 could very easily take the Xbox

01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:04.960
360s place in the family room if only based on price and just completely eat

01:11:01.679 --> 01:11:06.960
its lunch I I really honestly because

01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:10.040
look at it unless I'm mistaken unless they've changed their tune like

01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:14.120
Microsoft has done in recent weeks with just about everything in relation to the

01:11:11.480 --> 01:11:18.920
Xbox one uh it won't be backwards compatible with older Xbox games you

01:11:16.400 --> 01:11:23.600
know certainly Games available on disk the problem with that is that gives the

01:11:21.280 --> 01:11:29.679
consumer who was an Xbox 360 you know owner more ability to shift platforms

01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:34.640
yes it does why would they give themselves that open and let Microsoft

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:39.520
honestly they're potentially shooting themselves in the foot by pricing it

01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:43.040
$100 more even if it's $100 greater they

01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:44.760
by pricing it so high in respect to

01:11:43.040 --> 01:11:49.040
their core audience of who's going to buy it and that's going to be the the

01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:54.199
13-year-old kid who's begging mommy and daddy to buy them a game console let's

01:11:52.120 --> 01:11:57.880
and that 13-year-old kid if you were like me um actually okay you were

01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:02.520
probably looking at different consoles than I was but I was asking for a Super

01:11:59.960 --> 01:12:08.840
Nintendo or a Genesis I got whichever ones my parents bought and if they're

01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:11.159
saying I want a PS4 or an Xbox One the

01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:17.239
parents are going to make the decision exactly and if they're going to

01:12:14.280 --> 01:12:20.800
base that their decision on price nothing else ain't going to be about

01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:26.080
enhancing the family room ain't going to be enhancing the TV or that the the

01:12:22.679 --> 01:12:28.920
media experience Microsoft has the right

01:12:26.080 --> 01:12:33.040
idea they have the wrong approach yeah and you know what they really had an

01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:37.159
opportunity with Xbox to uh and it seems like they're kind of taking baby steps

01:12:34.679 --> 01:12:40.800
in the direction of unifying the Xbox experience and the Windows experience

01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:45.639
but it should have been that way from day one Xbox One well okay Xbox first

01:12:43.639 --> 01:12:50.679
gen was a PC why were they not able to do

01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:54.360
something okay and I'm not saying this would have been easy but why was it not

01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:58.639
possible for them to treat it more like a PC and not even be sitting around

01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:02.080
worrying about backwards compatibil compatibility at this point because they

01:13:00.400 --> 01:13:06.080
could just say oh well you know don't worry about your back library of Xbox uh

01:13:04.400 --> 01:13:09.239
360 games because they're all going to run on your PC we're going to open up

01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:15.760
the license now so you don't need a console or or whatever else they could have done to bring those two devices

01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:18.440
together and actually converge them to the point where what they're trying to

01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:24.000
do now is they're trying to make the Xbox One the media PC because Microsoft

01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:28.679
and Intel and you name it has been trying to do this since I mean Google's

01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:33.080
trying to do it Apple's trying to do it everyone's trying to make a media PC

01:13:31.120 --> 01:13:38.239
essentially yeah but but people don't need it and not at that price exactly

01:13:36.120 --> 01:13:43.480
not at that price that's the problem people will take it at it's really it's

01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:47.080
sad because I think the Xbox 3 I'm sorry

01:13:43.480 --> 01:13:49.080
the Xbox one yeah is a better media

01:13:47.080 --> 01:13:53.920
center console than a PS4 it's it's not so much a gaming

01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:58.440
machine as an everything to everybody and I would have expected Microsoft to

01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:02.040
learn its lesson to not do that again I mean Windows 8 they talk about no

01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:07.719
compromises I think the whole thing is a compromise uh and for for whatever it's

01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:12.880
worth by the way I'm you know in chat with you guys right now on my Surface

01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:16.639
PC it's uh it's the only way to to to run the utility you know and I'm I'm

01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:23.080
running right now in classic desktop mode but it's uh it's something where

01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:26.320
Microsoft's trying but unfortunately they they are not addressing the need at

01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:30.960
a price where the consumer is going to buy into it yeah so you know what I

01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:35.120
don't want to keep Chris for too long here guys and I promised we'd do a

01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:38.480
Twitter blitz so we're gonna oh that's completely not the right thing so let's

01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:41.440
go over to the actual Twitter feed here so Chris I don't know if uh you're

01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:46.400
familiar with it it's pretty self-explanatory Twitter Blitz is I ask

01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:49.960
people to ask questions for you and you basically answer them as fast as

01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:53.199
possible and move on to the next one great I'm sure a lot of the people who

01:14:51.639 --> 01:14:56.800
want me out of this chat would be very happy with me being quick all all right

01:14:55.360 --> 01:15:04.760
favorite piece of technology you've ever owned go oh uh

01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:06.520
Theon I'm sorry the toron it was a

01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:12.080
musical instrument the MIDI controller that Yamaha made it's actually an app

01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:15.920
available for iOS too what brands of products do you use most every day and

01:15:14.040 --> 01:15:20.440
why or maybe even just pick like kind of a favorite product you use a lot right

01:15:17.400 --> 01:15:22.760
now uh God I go back and forth between

01:15:20.440 --> 01:15:28.520
my Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 today all right fair enough and totally

01:15:25.639 --> 01:15:34.000
agree with that approach y on Google Trends the term computer has gone down

01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:35.600
while PC gaming has gone up and this I'm

01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:39.360
going to just interject here this to me was a huge missed opportunity for

01:15:37.040 --> 01:15:44.159
Microsoft where they abandoned the PC as a gaming platform to focus on Xbox

01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:50.080
versus allowing them to be convergent so go ahead Chris hit it yeah I think it's

01:15:46.719 --> 01:15:53.320
great I I think the the the idea of a PC

01:15:50.080 --> 01:15:55.000
type of uh piece of Hardware perfect for

01:15:53.320 --> 01:15:59.199
gaming but it doesn't need to be on Windows it could be uh Linux it could be

01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:04.280
OS 10 it could be anything and that shows with steam moving towards

01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:08.280
Ubuntu uh okay here's just a comment that uh sort of a comment on the the

01:16:06.360 --> 01:16:11.800
dynamic we've got here which is great news because I actually already pinged

01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:16.520
Chris about this and we're going to be down in Seattle for PA's Prime Chris

01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:20.760
isn't attending the show but what's cool about us being in the same city at the

01:16:18.120 --> 01:16:24.480
same time for more than like 3 hours this time which we were a little while

01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:29.560
ago but we didn't have time to meet up I am uh going to shoehorn myself into a

01:16:27.040 --> 01:16:34.199
pillo vlog at some point somehow so we are G to hang out while I'm down there

01:16:31.360 --> 01:16:38.920
now we can't back out oh boy oh by the way someone in chat said

01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:42.159
type three for boobies I I've been I've been pressing three but nothing's

01:16:42.679 --> 01:16:50.159
happening uh tell me what you're excited

01:16:46.080 --> 01:16:51.880
about boobies I I was told by the chat

01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:58.840
room there would be boobies if I pressed three and I'm so disappointed

01:16:55.719 --> 01:17:00.560
um you know sorry to be serious for a

01:16:58.840 --> 01:17:04.719
minute no I am married and my wife is hotter than any other woman on the

01:17:02.719 --> 01:17:09.280
planet you know it's amazing what makeup can do because like there was a there

01:17:07.320 --> 01:17:14.000
was a porn actress that was at a hockey game not that long ago and the camera

01:17:11.320 --> 01:17:20.840
was panning past and caught like the breasts right and you could tell the

01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:22.520
cameraman was like and and her face oh

01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:27.760
man when she's just like out and about and not made up and you know on the set

01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:32.800
wow that you could sort of you could grape cheese with it you know in terms

01:17:30.040 --> 01:17:39.880
of what I'm excited about you I I just I I I can't wait for the next Star Wars

01:17:34.280 --> 01:17:41.880
movies I can't wait uh to uh to you know

01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:46.920
just just experience just live in live in the now and enjoy life every single

01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:51.679
day that there's very little that I could say that what I'm looking forward

01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:57.560
to more than anything else um I don't know I just uh I enjoy a lot this

01:17:54.440 --> 01:17:59.679
question is is 5 in or 4.7 in 1080P

01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:03.000
smartphone form factor a limit now I'm not sure exactly what this viewer means

01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:09.120
but what I'll do is I'll interpret that the way that I want to is for you how do

01:18:06.440 --> 01:18:13.040
you feel about fablet and are we moving in sort of a stupid Direction where it

01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:16.960
comes to smartphones just other than Apple where it comes to these Android

01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:20.840
smartphone makers which again comes back to that bigger must be better because we

01:18:18.639 --> 01:18:26.159
don't understand the experience thing do they need to be any bigger no I I think

01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:31.040
they're they're nice but they just it they don't some people love them some

01:18:28.719 --> 01:18:37.040
people don't I think they're interesting um I think they're interesting that that

01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:38.639
my friend is a term that means I don't

01:18:37.040 --> 01:18:44.199
want to say what I'm actually thinking right now yeah it's interesting I I'll

01:18:41.639 --> 01:18:49.040
leave it it's interesting all right we've never been

01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:54.239
into it very much yeah not really uh do you consider the Moto X a

01:18:52.440 --> 01:18:58.600
better Android phone than the Nexus 4 based on what you've seen so far uh I

01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:03.000
wouldn't go that far I think in terms of consumer adoption it has a possibility

01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:07.000
although I guess Motorola had a pull back on a lot of customization options

01:19:04.719 --> 01:19:12.400
because they were having quality control issues with the engraving the other day

01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:15.800
um I think it's a step in the right direction making it more consumer

01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:19.280
friendly but I got to tell you my Nexus 4 is still my go-to Android

01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:28.199
device all right I think let's see if we've got a couple more here that

01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:32.480
asking me about my size preference is a very personal

01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:36.800
question at least we didn't ask you about your size out right I appreciate

01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:39.960
that even though I do have a 31inch Darth biter in my

01:19:40.040 --> 01:19:46.080
office all right well you know what Chris I don't want to keep you forever

01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:49.679
and uh we've already given the teaser that uh I have I've invited myself to

01:19:48.400 --> 01:19:55.080
your show at some point in the near future so guys if you enjoyed Chris let

01:19:52.639 --> 01:19:59.880
them know by making sure you subscribe youtube.com/ Locker Nome make sure you

01:19:57.679 --> 01:20:03.199
let him know by following him on Twitter make sure that you let him know by

01:20:01.360 --> 01:20:08.080
letting him know and make sure you let us know how much you enjoyed Chris so

01:20:05.440 --> 01:20:11.440
that hopefully we can uh gravel hands and knees to maybe bring him back at

01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:16.400
some point because this was a total blast man thank you very much here's the

01:20:13.679 --> 01:20:20.400
thing I've probably lost subscribers Now by by doing I'm not to say that you you

01:20:18.719 --> 01:20:24.920
trust me you have far more power than I ever could uh but I wouldn't be

01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:30.159
surprised if if I offended anybody and I did not offend you as a listener if you

01:20:27.360 --> 01:20:35.199
hate me let me just say I just want to talk to your haters of me right now if I

01:20:32.679 --> 01:20:41.280
can uh I just want to say one thing you haters I'm on this show and you're not

01:20:38.480 --> 01:20:47.960
okay that's really all I wanted to say yeah we were actually you know what is

01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:51.520
funny is I PMD you on YouTube years ago

01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:54.040
when I was Tiny and you were like a huge

01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:59.320
deal to me to be perfectly honest and I never got a reply from you and so I half

01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:02.400
expected when I messaged you this time that I wasn't even going to get a reply

01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:08.400
because you're still a big deal to me man you were a huge Pioneer and you were

01:21:04.679 --> 01:21:11.159
one of the guys that I was following you

01:21:08.400 --> 01:21:16.320
and Tiger Direct TV were the ones where I was looking at you from more of a of

01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:19.960
an edutainment perspective and I was looking at them from a what a retailer

01:21:18.440 --> 01:21:25.360
can do to build a YouTube channel perspective when I started ncx Tech tips

01:21:23.080 --> 01:21:28.040
four years ago so for those who are going to hate on you on this show

01:21:26.639 --> 01:21:32.120
they're not allowed to do that you guys it's not permitted it's okay but I just

01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:36.239
wanted to let you know I ignore every YouTube message that's the worst way to

01:21:34.040 --> 01:21:39.920
get a hold of me I didn't know better at the time I did not ignore you on purpose

01:21:38.719 --> 01:21:46.440
I just want to throw that out there YouTube is the work because it's it's impossible to manage I I I don't really

01:21:44.040 --> 01:21:49.920
reply to them either I I I understand now but at the time I didn't get it

01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:57.080
because I was still replying to every message because I got like one every week right thanks I we'll talk to you

01:21:55.600 --> 01:22:01.440
soon and uh we'll see you when we're down in Seattle this has been a total

01:21:58.719 --> 01:22:06.320
blast absolutely happy to do it all right take care see you

01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:09.000
later all right let's just uh well there

01:22:06.320 --> 01:22:13.600
you guys have it that was Chris pillo or Locker Nome as the for the artist

01:22:11.480 --> 01:22:17.520
formerly known as Locker Nome let's go let's go with that and I really hope

01:22:15.639 --> 01:22:21.760
that uh that you guys enjoyed having him on as a guest based on how many people

01:22:19.679 --> 01:22:25.120
are tuned into the stream right now I think you guys enjoyed us having him as

01:22:23.480 --> 01:22:29.880
a guest so I will make make sure this is my personal commitment to you now we are

01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:35.639
going to try to bring back Chris at least I guarantee personal commitment we

01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:38.120
will try I shut up man you're killing me

01:22:35.639 --> 01:22:42.040
here let's get back down to business so I was trying to load this page before

01:22:40.120 --> 01:22:46.440
and it wasn't working there we go posted by John Lamb on the Forum uh Steve

01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:49.840
Balmer about to retire he wrote a letter that talked about sort of all the you

01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:55.880
know great things that have happened at Microsoft how they went from I think he

01:22:51.639 --> 01:22:57.560
said 7.5 million do company to a s 7

01:22:55.880 --> 01:23:01.320
billion billion dollar whatever somewhere around some ridiculous metric

01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:06.320
that thousand de growth in the time that he's been with the company I I did the

01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:08.520
math 7.5 mil to 78 billion which is just

01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:13.239
unbelievable he says Senior Management is still committed to devices and

01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:18.360
services as a strategy so For Better or For Worse they're still going down that

01:23:15.360 --> 01:23:19.960
path and um you know what let's just

01:23:18.360 --> 01:23:23.560
move on to the next one this is an interesting talk also related to I'll

01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:28.880
let you uh I'll let you cover this one here go check it out okay so this is our

01:23:26.320 --> 01:23:34.760
article posted by snow comet on the Linus Tech tips Forum it's the original

01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:37.400
article is from VR Zone and AMD says P4

01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:43.080
performance advantage over Xbox one may be greater than many expect due to Huma

01:23:40.679 --> 01:23:46.920
which is their homogen or homogeneous unified something AR microarchitecture

01:23:45.480 --> 01:23:52.199
something like that Bas it allows the GPU and the CPU to grab references that

01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:55.960
are in RAM on at the exact same time so before they could both grab it off the

01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:59.080
same chip but it would have to be two separate instances of the same

01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:05.000
information now the graphics card and CPU can both grab it which is a huge

01:24:03.080 --> 01:24:09.639
benefit part of the problem though is if it's not a console exclusive title

01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:14.800
they're going to be developing it not with that feature in mind so we're not

01:24:12.360 --> 01:24:20.199
going to see a huge benefit from this unless we do because of apus on the

01:24:17.440 --> 01:24:24.880
desktop unless we do because of that and we will maybe later on okay okay well

01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:28.880
later on they're not expecting titles to be able to get that much Advantage from

01:24:26.400 --> 01:24:32.960
this but it's it's more of a long-term look at this awesome thing that if

01:24:30.719 --> 01:24:37.120
utilized properly could give a lot more performance so it's a hardware feature

01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:41.199
now but I mean I expect a Next Generation or even two generations from

01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:44.600
now Apu from AMD to potentially take advantage of this which would mean we

01:24:43.080 --> 01:24:49.000
could be looking at a situation where the game gets released for console and

01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:53.400
then gets I mean okay it gets released for PS4 and Xbox One let's say so it is

01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:57.600
able to run with Huma or Huma or whatever you want to call it or is able

01:24:54.800 --> 01:25:02.400
to run without it gets ported to PC where if you have an APU all of a sudden

01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:06.600
you can take advantage of that code path that already exists so that's what we

01:25:04.679 --> 01:25:09.360
could be looking at every everything coming out all the information coming

01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:13.000
out for consoles right now is just every single time it's like oh wait this is

01:25:11.080 --> 01:25:18.440
information for consoles but this is so good for PC so good for PC probably even

01:25:16.280 --> 01:25:24.000
better than it is for consoles like this is such a big deal awes yeah we are

01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:28.600
color us pretty excited about uh about that particular development right there

01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:32.040
so big thanks to everyone who posts news on the lonus tech tips Forum we

01:25:30.440 --> 01:25:36.600
appreciate you guys and we're going to actually burn through a few of these news topics here because the camera is

01:25:35.080 --> 01:25:44.080
running on battery today and I actually have no idea how much battery life we

01:25:38.639 --> 01:25:46.400
have left so uh yeah Wacom has a new

01:25:44.080 --> 01:25:50.199
tablet like actual tablet not like a drawing tablet well it can it can be

01:25:48.080 --> 01:25:53.840
both if you plug it into a PC or a Mac it becomes a drawing tablet if you run

01:25:52.080 --> 01:25:57.320
it solo it's either depending on which one you buy an Android tablet or a

01:25:55.960 --> 01:26:01.760
Windows based tablet and they're saying that for professional use you can plug it into a computer but then while you're

01:26:00.679 --> 01:26:08.960
on the road or while you're doing whatever you can still get design work done uh using apps inside of Android or

01:26:06.360 --> 01:26:13.119
window Facebook or yeah or whatever you want it's an Android tablet or Windows

01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:16.920
tablet they're not cheap no they have a demo demo video that you can check out

01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:21.800
in the thread this was posted by Pixie pay on the uh lus Tech tips Forum so uh

01:26:20.440 --> 01:26:27.920
the Android version is $1,600 for a 32 gig model and the

01:26:24.480 --> 01:26:30.639
Windows version is $2500 for a 512 gig

01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:35.239
model however when we want to talk about convergent devices uh the so the

01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:38.840
original uh oh source was just wacom's website so when we talk about convergent

01:26:37.080 --> 01:26:44.840
devices how flexible is this thing because it's not much bigger than a regular tablet but it's got a

01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:47.199
248 uh different um oh yeah sorry I'll

01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:51.480
sign out of there uh so it's got 248 different pressure

01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:56.560
settings and it is not much thicker than a regular tablet which is just

01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:59.960
unbelievable um it's it's awesome because like and another thing is I saw

01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:03.199
a whole bunch of people go oh my God the price is so high and I would normally

01:27:01.679 --> 01:27:07.000
jump on that too but it's a walkom tablet yeah still a walkom tablet the

01:27:05.040 --> 01:27:11.199
price is going to be crazy high it's a walkom tablet it has that quality in it

01:27:09.080 --> 01:27:14.239
and it can be used in that way people are going to be spending around that

01:27:12.679 --> 01:27:17.679
much money well maybe not around that much money but a lot of money on a

01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:22.520
walking tablet anyway so if they could just spend a little bit more and get this increased functionality that's

01:27:20.280 --> 01:27:27.400
awesome I mean so $2,500 let's say you bought the biggest iPad available so 128

01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:31.239
gig iPad and you bought yourself a Wacom tablet I mean you're already spending a

01:27:29.480 --> 01:27:34.360
whack ton of money anyway maybe go for a Windows tablet that also has a Wacom

01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:38.760
tablet built into it I don't know I like that one because then you can get full desktop applications to use with it

01:27:37.360 --> 01:27:42.159
right that's so cool it's really expensive but it's so cool and the the

01:27:40.440 --> 01:27:45.000
the storage space on that is insane to me the Android device doesn't make a

01:27:43.480 --> 01:27:48.679
whole lot of sense and I had this conversation with diesel and he

01:27:47.280 --> 01:27:54.440
basically said the same thing is like he paid the extra $900 to have a Windows tablet even not

01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:59.280
from a creative person I'm not a artistically creative person at all you

01:27:56.400 --> 01:28:02.360
know that neither of us are um if I was in that position I would probably Fork

01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.000
it out for the Windows one because you just get so much more flexibility and

01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:09.719
the the storage space on it is so much bigger isn't it like I think it's like

01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:16.960
500 gigs versus 32 or something 512 versus 32 I mean that uh that that's a

01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:19.239
really big deal to me and we're

01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:24.679
back we think so we have a

01:28:21.679 --> 01:28:28.800
theory that we're testing right now to

01:28:24.679 --> 01:28:31.960
see if we are going to indeed stay back

01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:34.280
but we uh we think that uh you know baby

01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:39.600
got back or something like that it's a song about babies maybe

01:28:37.199 --> 01:28:45.119
you're not a parent you wouldn't understand there is probably a remix of

01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:48.000
that isn't there oh probably some some

01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:54.360
actual baby one that is so classic anyway so without further Ado

01:28:51.719 --> 01:28:58.159
folks Let's uh jump into our next topic here I know this is sort of random that

01:28:56.199 --> 01:29:01.760
we're uh that we're jumping back into things here I know that's pretty unusual

01:29:00.280 --> 01:29:07.920
and I have no idea how many people are even watching but uh you know it's worth

01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:10.719
worth a shot giving things another go we

01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:20.679
are live again I'm going to tweet that out right now so AMD has just announced

01:29:15.719 --> 01:29:24.719
massive price drops on their new

01:29:20.679 --> 01:29:28.199
9590 processor so this was the CPU

01:29:24.719 --> 01:29:32.119
with the 500 watt

01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:35.040
TDP which did I say 500 cuz I meant 220

01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:41.000
wat TDP sorry but it was the CPU that now costs

01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:42.639
uh oh well see this is what happens when

01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:48.400
my flow gets interrupted they dropped it by $500 it has a 220 watt TDP making it

01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:52.600
pretty much about as hot running as anything could possibly be it consumes a

01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:58.040
ton of power and the performance while looking okay

01:29:54.639 --> 01:30:01.080
well what was like like just ridiculous

01:29:58.040 --> 01:30:02.560
for $900 I mean it's a it's a lot more

01:30:01.080 --> 01:30:05.679
feasible now but if you bought one already I feel bad for you and my kind

01:30:04.520 --> 01:30:12.159
of theory about this is what they're trying to do is make it so that people can spend their excess money on water

01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:15.639
cooling so they don't blow up the chip

01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:18.119
yeah maybe I mean I I don't I don't I

01:30:15.639 --> 01:30:22.280
don't know exactly what the uh the logic behind actually asking that much for the

01:30:20.360 --> 01:30:25.960
product in the first place was and I don't know what the logic behind

01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:31.000
slashing it by that much is unless they were literally selling none of them like

01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:37.520
zero so maybe there weren't even cuz honestly okay working at NC if there was

01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:39.199
like um if there was like an issue like

01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:44.840
okay like we've got like 500 of these and we're selling like 10 a week and

01:30:42.440 --> 01:30:49.320
it's at this price we we might look at it and go okay well how many have we

01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:51.159
sold have we sold like two can we just

01:30:49.320 --> 01:30:55.880
like reach out to those two guys and like deal with them and then you know

01:30:54.520 --> 01:31:02.080
not worry about all the people who are going to be upset when we drop the price by $100 or something like in this Casa

01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:06.560
in that case it's only on products where there's like a ton of margin like it was

01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:09.400
like a weird closeout deal or something like that where you just you're

01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:13.320
experimenting with the pricing trying to find what the market will bear maybe

01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:16.639
what AMD did was they tried to find out if the market will bear this discovered

01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:20.679
that they've sold none of them and then they were like okay well we're not going to be upsetting anyone if we drop the

01:31:19.360 --> 01:31:24.040
price now that was another thing I was thinking is yes it's a huge price drop

01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:29.320
and yes my first reaction was holy holy crap if I bought one of those I'd be pissed then my second reaction was did

01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:33.520
anyone buy any of those is it is there going to be anyone to be pissed I have

01:31:31.320 --> 01:31:37.880
no idea I mean I know NC opened one to build a demo

01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:43.080
system other than that have they sold any so like retailers and system

01:31:40.040 --> 01:31:44.520
integrators yeah it's like it and then

01:31:43.080 --> 01:31:49.960
like crazy benchmarkers that are getting them for free yeah I don't know I had a

01:31:48.320 --> 01:31:55.280
great question uh the other day on Twitter someone was asking if they

01:31:51.639 --> 01:31:57.080
released the 9590 does that mean fx8350

01:31:55.280 --> 01:32:00.800
is which are basically the same chip but bin not quite as well does that mean

01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:05.400
that some of the best overclocking fx8350 is are essentially not going to

01:32:03.320 --> 01:32:09.400
exist anymore and the answer is yes they skimming it yeah yeah because if they're

01:32:07.280 --> 01:32:13.000
skim the only way to get what you know is for sure going to be the best

01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:17.880
overclocking chips is to buy the highest Bend part typically now there are other

01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:22.600
factors such as what Intel or AMD or NVIDIA whoever else are selecting for if

01:32:20.080 --> 01:32:28.719
they're selecting for power consumption versus if they're selecting for um heat

01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:31.159
output or or whatever those factors are

01:32:28.719 --> 01:32:35.080
um that can affect it too but in general going for the highest end one gives you

01:32:33.280 --> 01:32:38.159
the best chance of overclocking this has always been the case but even then we

01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:42.320
might be talking about differences of a couple hundred mehz or we might be talking about differences where they run

01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:49.239
at the same speed but this one the lower end one outputs a lot more heat or something along those lines so um

01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:52.639
someone says uh on Twitch chat uh lonus I love how I search for FX 9000 Series

01:32:51.320 --> 01:32:57.000
chip and you're like the first two results

01:32:54.560 --> 01:33:00.840
sweet great work and I don't think we ever even made a video about it which is

01:32:58.480 --> 01:33:05.800
sort of the most ridiculous thing there all right so let's uh you know what

01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:10.159
be uh because we had some issues with the stream before I'm going to do my uh

01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:14.800
Squarespace thing right now so if you guys are actually oh I hope I have it

01:33:12.480 --> 01:33:19.719
yeah there it is so if you haven't seen it already then that's uh that's great

01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:24.400
if you have seen it already then that's great too so we've actually

01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:29.920
redone and I'm just going to head over to Linus Medi group.com or Linus medag

01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:34.880
group. squarespace.com we have redone the Linus Medi Group website with

01:33:31.360 --> 01:33:36.639
Squarespace so we have uh partnered up

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with them as an official sponsor of the W show now so you can head over

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01:33:54.440 --> 01:34:00.639
they'll take care of making sure that your domain's pointed in the right place they have e-commerce built in it's great

01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:05.639
for things like portfolios um probably the the the only

01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:11.000
reason that we can't use it for everything is because they don't have integrated like for they it's not a

01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:15.040
forum so Linus Tech tips.com won't be switching over to Squarespace but Linus

01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:20.080
Medi group.com is so I want to give you guys a chance to check this out and here

01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:23.760
we go so it's Linus medag group. squarespace.com and a lot of this right

01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:27.159
now is just placeholders so over here here on the right next to the picture

01:34:25.280 --> 01:34:31.480
you can see there's just a little like blurb of text but we can make it so that

01:34:29.040 --> 01:34:34.639
as people cycle through these um there's like some useful information about the

01:34:33.080 --> 01:34:39.280
different things that lus Media Group does it's touch capable without any sort

01:34:37.320 --> 01:34:43.040
of difficulty so you can see I can move that around with my finger or I can use

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a mouse doesn't really matter or you can actually press the buttons it also

01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:49.119
scales down to different sizes so if you

01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:55.840
want to access it on your phone or tablet or whatever else they have over 20 themes that are all highly scal

01:34:54.199 --> 01:35:01.239
and their plans are also scalable as well so if you end up with a lot more traffic on your site than you were

01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:05.400
initially expecting then it can scale up and give you more bandwidth as needed so

01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:11.199
over here is the end of our portfolio shows all the partners we've worked with in the past which of course now includes

01:35:09.280 --> 01:35:14.920
Squarespace so there they are right there all right so you can also check

01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:18.400
out some information about our team we have four people at lus Media Group so

01:35:16.639 --> 01:35:22.520
you can learn about those guys if you happen to be interested in that you can

01:35:20.040 --> 01:35:28.159
get in touch with us although uh for the most part that info medag group.com

01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:29.800
email is strictly like business related

01:35:28.159 --> 01:35:33.960
stuff anything else will not get replied to or even looked at because I'm not even the one who monitors it uh

01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:39.520
different ways to watch you probably already know about the WAN Show so there you have it guys speaking of the WAN

01:35:37.679 --> 01:35:45.360
show Squarespace is now a proud sponsor of the W show and um diesel actually

01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:50.199
spent probably about six hours on this website compared to the old Linus Media

01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:54.280
Group website which was a uh shoot what were we using someone already found a

01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:59.440
typo yeah I'm sure there is it's in progress you guys diesel did the whole

01:35:56.719 --> 01:36:03.760
thing in like 6 hours um but what were we using before WordPress WordPress

01:36:02.080 --> 01:36:08.760
WordPress with a custom theme it was way more work to set up it's um very

01:36:07.080 --> 01:36:12.400
customizable which is cool about WordPress you're not locked into a

01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:16.320
particular theme but they also it's not as TurnKey so uh didn't look as good we

01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:20.000
spent a lot more time on it kind of wasted the time because we never really

01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:23.760
sent anyone to that website or finished it yeah I mean that's the problem with

01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:29.320
these projects is when you don't finish then they are not finished we were

01:36:26.400 --> 01:36:35.600
trying to make an artsy good-look site so not me and then it's WordPress so not

01:36:33.719 --> 01:36:40.840
diesel yeah so was not a really good situation don't

01:36:39.320 --> 01:36:43.920
get me wrong like custom coding if you're going to do all of your HTML and

01:36:42.320 --> 01:36:49.560
all of your CSS and just custom build your entire website you can make something better than you can make on

01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:54.199
Squarespace but it takes so much time and it takes so much resources if you

01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:56.800
want to do it faster and honestly better than what most people are going to be

01:36:55.199 --> 01:37:02.440
able to do they have advaned mode now so you can dink around with the HTML and

01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:04.360
CSS I asked uh bet or something about

01:37:02.440 --> 01:37:08.639
that yeah really can you can you edit everything I have no idea I if you can

01:37:06.320 --> 01:37:12.119
edit everything that's actually potentially really cool it's kind of

01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:15.280
neat anyway so one way one way or the other guys uh we're going to turn into

01:37:13.679 --> 01:37:19.040
paying customers cuz I don't want to be endorsing something that we're not

01:37:16.719 --> 01:37:21.880
actually paying for as a service so right now we're on a trial account you

01:37:20.400 --> 01:37:28.880
can sign up for a trial with no credit card but if you do decide to buy it please do do use offer code Linus 8 and

01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:32.199
that concludes that let's move into our

01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:33.840
next topic here guys so again big big

01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:39.360
thanks to Squarespace for sponsoring the W show we really appreciate it um

01:37:36.119 --> 01:37:43.679
speaking of things that you can pay for

01:37:39.360 --> 01:37:43.679
monthly should you so desire

01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:52.239
it the Elder Scrolls Online is asking

01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:53.800
for a monthly fee should I just shut up

01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:58.360
for like 10 minutes so we can go to the next topic um no no I want you to I want

01:37:57.159 --> 01:38:03.599
you to cover this one so that was submitted by top war gamer on the lonus

01:38:00.320 --> 01:38:06.239
tech tips forum and uh slick go for it

01:38:03.599 --> 01:38:11.040
if uh if you want a reference back to a previous live stream that we've

01:38:11.040 --> 01:38:15.360
had um sorry if you want to reference

01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:20.360
back to a previous live stream that we've had uh when wow I can't remember

01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:24.320
his name they have too many different names for all their different stuff but

01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:29.199
Logan I I was thinking Tech Syndicate and then I was thinking raise the world

01:38:26.599 --> 01:38:33.440
thinking uh when Logan was on we talked about free to-play games and the the

01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:37.639
payment mode that most people are calling out Elders girls should have

01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:40.800
been is a free-to-play game now one thing Logan brought up that I believe

01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:45.880
both of us agreed with is free-to-play games putting no barrier to entry brings

01:38:43.480 --> 01:38:49.159
in a not strong Community every 9-year-old every single person that you

01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:55.480
don't want playing that game will be playing that game and the communities in

01:38:52.119 --> 01:38:57.480
payto playay games have been higher now

01:38:55.480 --> 01:39:00.400
is in my opinion a subscription model the best not necessarily they could have

01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:06.320
done something like Guild Wars they could have done something like something else but the angle pay for the game and

01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:10.719
then no monthly fee I mean that to me isn't a bad one either yeah but then

01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:15.840
okay okay but but where they're coming from is if they did any other model so

01:39:13.400 --> 01:39:19.080
say they did The Guild Wars model Guild Wars released his expansions fairly

01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:22.800
often that's where they get their recurring income from now you don't have

01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:26.440
to buy the expansions but if you don't buy the expansion you're not able to do

01:39:24.440 --> 01:39:31.000
everything the other Scrolls team is saying well with this IP you've always

01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:37.159
been able to do everything it's a free roam very do

01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:39.360
whatever you want IP now and IP like

01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:42.599
intellectual property not like Internet Protocol yeah sorry um now where I'm

01:39:41.360 --> 01:39:47.360
coming from with that is there's always been expansions and stuff but I guess from a single player's perspective it's

01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:51.920
not like you're locked off compared to other players cuz it's single player so you're free to do everything that is

01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:56.440
currently in the game for you so in a multiplayer situation they're saying

01:39:54.159 --> 01:40:00.760
you can't not do something that someone else can do so you'll always be able to

01:39:58.280 --> 01:40:05.080
do everything if it's subscription based that was interesting and I was sold I

01:40:03.080 --> 01:40:08.360
was okay with it now if you looked at my notes that I added on there they're also

01:40:07.080 --> 01:40:12.760
adding a cash shop so that that's where things start

01:40:11.040 --> 01:40:17.159
to get a little bit dicey to me because if you're going to charge everyone to

01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:22.239
play at all then how can you have free to play stuff implemented as well like

01:40:20.040 --> 01:40:28.560
paying so so I mean what is this like I think so quote from uh vg247.com

01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:31.679
is it's probably safe to speculate that these will include a large range of

01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:36.520
largely cosmetic items then if they're not going to have a pay to- win model so

01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:40.280
horse armor anyone yeah like are they I mean would it get them a lot of

01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:44.840
publicity if they like if the first viable item that would be huge one thing

01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:50.199
though is that the only thing they have confirmed is in the cash off is a name

01:40:47.360 --> 01:40:56.280
change which is no problem but there's obviously going to be more stuff we just

01:40:51.679 --> 01:40:56.280
don't know what it is for
