Linux’s Biggest Win Yet - WAN Show April 24, 2026
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topics. Good news show. This is going to be the best Good news show yet because
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everything's freaking awesome. >> The EU requires phone makers to fit
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readily removable batteries for from from next year. Uh but there may be a
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notable exception. >> We'll see what that is. Also, YouTube
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opens up AI deep fake detection tool to all of Hollywood.
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>> I knew. Wait. Oh, that one. I thought you were going to pick the other one. I
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thought you were going to pick the like local Gemini one >> because that was more proof that Luke
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was right. >> Oh, yeah. >> That one's crazy. That one's crazy.
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Okay, we're >> just AI topics people. Yeah, we'll talk about that.
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headline topic, which is of course Oh, man. It wasn't even one of the ones we
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highlighted. There's so many good ones. >> Yeah, that's funny, isn't it?
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>> Framework CEO and absolute bro Narav
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Patel tweeted earlier this week that um
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>> is it? >> Hm. >> Oh, that top. Okay. >> Yeah, that topic. tweeted earlier this
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week that the Framework 13 Pro launch,
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investment disclosure, has been an overwhelming success. Nice. Batch 7,
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which is shipping in July, is sold out already.
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>> Wow. >> Yeah, people are really vibing with the better chassis, the new better
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touchscreen display that has just Did you watch the video? >> Yes, it looks great.
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>> Phenomenal. Phenomenal like direct sunlight
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performance. Do you guys just walk outside and test it? Was cool.
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>> I've never seen anything I have seen anything quite like it. I've seen those
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like retroreflective displays that are quite like it, but I've never seen one
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with a backlight that's quite like that. Very, very cool. Better battery life.
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Freaking Panther Lake. This thing is resonating with people. But that is not
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what I'm excited about right now. What I'm excited about right now is the fact
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that Narav posted that over 50% of their
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sales of the Framework 13 Pro are wait
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for it
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>> Ubuntu. >> Yeah. >> Not Windows.
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>> Yeah. >> Now we have talked extensively on the WAN Show about the year of the Linux
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desktop. We have even talked like like
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personally between you and me about a video that I was working on called the
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year of Windows humiliation. Yeah. Because even if it's not the year of the
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Linux desktop, >> I I think there's an argument to be made
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that it is the year of Windows humiliation. That video actually goes
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live sometime this weekend. And I had to go do a quick voice pickup when I saw
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this tweet and be like, >> I don't know, editor, put this
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somewhere, but like this is crazy.
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However, however, >> I hope it's just a screenshot of the tweet and you going and no no other
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context. I wish it was now. Sorry, keep going. Now, I completely wish it was.
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However, there is a bit of a catch. And
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Luke, do you want to be the one to give the bad news? >> Yeah. So, honestly, as as much as I
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would love this to be true, >> and you know, maybe it is. And you know,
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I I'm not saying it's not true. I do think that that many people are ordering
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Ubuntu configurations for these laptops and not Windows ones. I am not
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personally convinced that those people are going to keep Linux I'll say not
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even just Ubuntu but Linux on their laptops. I I suspect people are doing
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this so that they can not pay for Windows
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and then they can install Windows and then just through the command line tell
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it that it should totally just activate itself and then go on their merry way.
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Um dawning dawning the hat I possible. I
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don't think over 50% of framework sales
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are people who are going to long-term Linux. I think they should give it a
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shot because I've been doing that and it's actually been awesome.
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>> Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Think about this. Think about this. The last
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thing you just said was what? >> It's been awesome.
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>> Okay. Okay. Now, now think back to the second last thing you said.
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>> Don't worry. I'm not going to go >> shot. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. >> The third last thing.
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>> No. No. We're not going to go any further than that. Then you wouldn't have a shot. You'd have no chance.
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Neither would I. Do you think that there could be a
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significant number of people who order this machine? Oh,
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>> and just get a taste and they're just like, huh?
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You know what? The water's warm.
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Why were all those penguins in it? >> You know what I'm saying?
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>> Aren't they usually in cold water? >> Yeah, >> right. Not always, it turns out.
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>> I know. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm >> Which is great. which is great to know
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because then if you don't like the cold water that doesn't mean you can't join them.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Just join the penguins. >> So I I mean I look I'm obviously like
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literally have a vested interest in in frameworks success. What I do not have a
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vested interest in is Yes. Thank you for that Luke. Uh what I do not have a
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vested interest in is like Linux's success. I got no I got no dog in that
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fight. >> Yeah. It doesn't benefit us. >> No. But what it does do is it's it's
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it's freaking >> it does. >> It's freaking exciting and that benefits
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me >> cuz the more people that use Linux ideally the better it'll get and then
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that benefits me. >> Okay. Yes. But not in like a
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>> not in a monetary way was sort of was sort of my
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>> No, I know. I know. That's why I said it didn't. Uh >> yeah, I honestly I I do suspect some
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people might try it and like it. I haven't used Ubuntu in
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uh I don't know genuinely like 15 20
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years. So, I have no idea, but um I I I
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do suspect some people might actually Yeah, let me let me poke around with
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this thing. I've heard some people talking about it and then might actually
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stick with it, which would be really cool. Um I also would say
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>> that I think a dramatically higher
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percentage of these are real or at least
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people who are going to install a different dro but not Windows um
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compared to even this time last year. I just thought of something else.
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>> I think it's been a massive jump. >> I just thought of something else. Okay,
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hear me out. If you're techy enough to
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install your own operating system, >> Mhm. >> What are the odds that you're also techy
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enough to be by storage drive and
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probably save a buck on the thing?
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>> You hear? You see where I'm going with this, right? Cuz this is people who
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selected a storage drive. >> This is this is the right. it would have to be because it comes with an operating
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system >> and selected a pre-installed operating system. But if you're the kind of person
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that really was just going to rip Ubuntu off of it, put Windows on, pirate
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Windows, like you you you have the knowhow that don't tell me you don't
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know how to open up of all things a framework laptop
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>> framework laptop >> and put an SSD in it. >> It's sort of the point.
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>> Don't even tell me that. I still don't
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fully believe the numbers, but that does, I think, up the percentage that it
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could be. >> I think we're going to get less than 100% of those Ubuntu people moving over
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to Windows. >> And it's just it's an exciting time to
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be interested in open- source software right now. It's an exciting time to be
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interested in alternatives to the the
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tech giants who Dude, did I tell talk to you already about the first time I fired
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my Windows laptop back up >> and it was like it it was like it didn't
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want me. >> It was like it didn't want me to come back.
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>> No. >> Did I have Did I not talk about this on W show? >> I don't think so. I put my Windows drive
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back in my uh PX13 uh that I've been
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using lately, my my Stricks Halo machine, and immediately it did it did
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the [ __ ] thing. Immediately it did the thing. It asked
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me, "Hey, it's been a while. Do you want
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Edge? Do you like One Drive? Have you
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ever thought about Xbox?
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off like I I I almost I was so The only
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reason it pushes you away. It like is literally repulsive.
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>> The only reason that I didn't swap the drives again are because this thing has
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like chassis intrusion detection that I can't figure out which one which screw
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is like the one that I have to tighten all the way to get it to even like turn
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back on. Like one of the screws like grounds a thing or something. Um, so I
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had already buttoned it completely back up and the the main reason that I had
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switched back over to Windows was because I wanted to try out that Logitech Super Strike mouse that I've
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been like supposed to try out for us to do the video
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>> not work on Linux. >> Uh, well the Logitech software I wanted
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to have the full suite of Logitech software if I'm evaluating a product.
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>> There is a a like third party standin Logitech software thing but yeah no that
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makes sense as a review. You should have the whole thing. >> Yeah, I should be I should be using it as the manufacturer intends.
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>> That makes sense. But if it wasn't for those two things, I I
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scouts honor. I would have put the other drive back in. I just it it was so
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offens It was offensive. It was like disrespectful.
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>> This is This is why I am I am using my
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computer right now >> and and move. I think the biggest thing
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for me is I feel like I've replaced the
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time that I spent on Windows being annoyed about that kind of stuff,
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learning more about my computer and doing cool things with my operating
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system, which is what I'd rather do. Anyways, I've had fun using an operating
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system for the first time since
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probably Windows 9. >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. Windows 9 was pretty
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cool. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And that's We're not memeing. We know there's no Windows 9. There was like a
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modded Windows 8.1 that had like the Croft stripped out of it and was like
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like super responsive that was nicknamed Windows 9.
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>> Yeah. And it's it you know it's not all perfect, but one thing that's been
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really awesome is every time I've ran
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into a problem, it is solvable.
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Every time. And it for me has never been
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a major issue. Like I replaced a drive
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and cuz my both my hard drives
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just worst timing in the freaking world. Both my hard drives I could hear timing
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so far. Yeah. I could hear that something was kind of
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off. They were like making more noise than normal. So I did a smart check and
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they both came up with like a pretty significant amount of bad sectors. And I
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was like, well, I tried to think back to like how old are these drives? I thought
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they were mine. When I finally pulled one out to actually replace it, I saw an
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inventory sticker on it. And when I saw the inventory sticker, I was like, "Oh,
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yeah. These are from uh Geodude V1."
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>> Okay. So, these are old. >> So, there was the Geodude and then there was Geodude Revision and then there was
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Bulbasaur. >> I might have personally put that inventory sticker on is what you're
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saying. >> Maybe. Yeah. >> Like these are old drives. So, I was
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like, "Oh, okay." And I I I looked up like the upload date for Geodude V1 and
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I was like, "Okay, it might be about time." Uh, so it's it's fine that they
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that they died. It's a huge deal, but like it it sucks because of the pricing.
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Uh, but yeah, I'm replacing those drives. And when I when I replaced it,
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uh, my my computer didn't want to boot. It booted into emergency mode,
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>> but I was like, "Okay, I know the series of events that just happened. I could
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reverse this, but instead I'm going to pull my laptop out and just look up like
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what could this mean? And I there was a very simple explanation of what to do.
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It did require a little bit of command line stuff, but I'm running CentOS. I
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expected this. That's fine. I'm looking into Oh, okay. What caused this? And
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it's just certain drives can be set up in a way where
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>> Sorry, did you say CentOS? >> Why did I say CentOS? Cashachio OS.
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Cool. >> Um, yeah. No, definitely not. >> You're talking about like an old How did
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that jump into my head? >> Lab machine. >> That's really weird. Anyway, anyways, my
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bad. Um, yeah, I was just like, "Oh, okay. I have to go into FSAB and just
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add no fail to the drive." And then it just booted perfectly. And I was like,
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"Oh, that's kind of neat." Now I like And then I sat there looking up like,
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"What are all the different flags for drives?" And then I'm just like learning
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stuff as I go on. Um, it's cool.
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>> Coming back to the topic we're supposed to be discussing. um our discussion
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question for the framework announcement this week cuz they also had their
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oculink connection for the back of the framework 16.
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>> Yeah. >> Uh they also had their new keyboard which is a pretty exciting alternative
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to the K400. Um but our question is
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forget all the stuff that they just announced just now. If they were to make
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a net new product, what would you want
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them to make? Narav already talked about the potential. He talked about how
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they've looked at he didn't commit anything but he talked about how they've
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looked at printers. The printer one I see as a little less necessary. Brother
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does exist. They tend to be kind of bros overall for the most part.
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>> Printers are kind of fine >> there. They seem kind of fine and it
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doesn't look like there's a lot of as far as I can tell like margin in the
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printer business unless you're willing to fleece people on the ink.
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>> Yeah. So, >> I'm sure there's things they could do
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that could help the world in regards to like those massive office printer
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things, but like I think focusing on consumer would be a good idea.
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>> TVs is one that's really interesting to
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me, >> especially if they're doing their own panels. >> Uh, well, okay. I don't think they would
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do their own panel for a TV. >> Sorry, I don't mean uh I more mean that
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they might have the expertise to like know things about TVs and make a good
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TV. when they did their own panel for the laptop, I doubt it was as much that
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they built the internal expertise and more that they they were able to afford
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to get the glass cut in the shape they wanted. Okay, pretty much. Yeah, but
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even that is is a big it's a monetary investment. I doubt it was as much of a
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technical investment. >> Rest assured said monitor first. I actually don't agree.
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>> Oh, strong disagree. Monitors. >> Monitors. So, the reason Oh, okay. I
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should explain why >> monitor space is pretty good. Yeah,
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monitors, they don't have the same
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increation problem that TVs do. >> They're not forcing ads down your
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throat. >> I was chatting with Brad, who's the uh the ShortCircuit channel manager now,
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and um he was saying that they they did a video on the LG G something. I think
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it was the G5 a little while ago. And like the first time setup process for it
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was like painful. like all the
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agreements that you're signing and like you finally get to the home screen and
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it's just freaking it's wallto-wall. It's just covered in ads.
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>> Yeah. >> If someone were to tell you, "Okay,
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here's the framework TV. It's the same
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TV because at the end of the day, it's not like they're going to go and
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reinvent better quantum dots, you know? They're they're they're not going to
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they're not going to suddenly have the R&D muscle of someone like a like a Sony
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or a TCL or a Samsung. It's that's not that's not happening. That's not what
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we're talking about here. >> It's going to cost more. >> It'll cost more. But if it just got the
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out of your way, >> I'd pay I'd pay for it >> and looked like solid, like if it was a
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B+ in terms of the image quality and just when you turned it on, it did not
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take screenshots of the content you're watching and send it back to some server
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somewhere. it just opened up to whatever
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source input you sent to it and just worked. I think that had that would have
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an incredible value to people. I think it would
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>> I think we're reaching the breaking point. I I think you know how
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>> on a variety of things, >> you know, I've talked a lot about how
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people seem to have just kind of given up on on like the whole privacy ad
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invasiveness thing and how I think just the the horse has has bolted from the
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from the barn at this point. Maybe I'm
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getting hope again. >> Oh yeah, me too.
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>> Because I'm starting to see people mad again.
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>> I think it's because the alternatives are becoming a lot more viable.
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>> You think so? >> I think so. Personally,
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I think self-hosting certain apps is like dramatically better than it's ever
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been. >> Mhm. >> Um I think I think having your own NAS
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for your family is as expensive as hardware is right now.
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>> It's getting trendy, dude. >> It's It's in a geeky way.
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>> It's getting trendy, but it's also getting trendy because it's pretty good.
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>> Oh, yeah. >> And like it's there is still upkeep time and you still have to do things for it.
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Um, but I think the upkeep and the things you have to do are kind of fun.
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Now, >> [ __ ] makes a really good point. People
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never gave up. They just never cared enough because convenience always wins.
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But that's the thing is the the encraptification
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is crossing that threshold where it's
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not convenient. >> Windows for me is less convenient than
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running Mint on my laptop. Windows gets in my way more, slows me down, and stops
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me from doing my job more than Mint does. So, like at this point in time,
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the convenient option is to run Linux.
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And that's not even a Linux nerd. I have
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never once opened the command line. I don't know why I looked down here. Uh my
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lap my laptop's not with me right now, but um >> I'm sorry to hear that.
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>> Um I have never once opened the command line on Mint on my laptop. I've never
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done anything fancy. All the software I've ever installed is just from the
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package manager which is effectively an app store on your phone. Like I I've
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done nothing special with that laptop
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and it is perfect. >> Like this is not uh this is not a a
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weird or special thing and I'm just genuinely more productive on it because
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it doesn't pester me about stuff. >> All right, let's pick another category.
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>> Sure. What would
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then What would you want to see them jump
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into? >> Sir, you're doing ship storm right now.
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What are you talking about? >> Oh, for
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Thank you. >> Thank you for your survey. Dan, >> I have no idea what's going on.
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>> Cool. Good chat, >> Luke. Then, uh, I'll I'll settle for
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talking to Luke. Good plan.
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What a what an appropriate response.
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>> I already think I have one in mind for me, but do you want me to go first then
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or do you want to go first just in case it's you know the best one and you uh
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think of it before I do? >> No, I I before you ever mentioned I mean
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I'm certain you already had the thought. But before you ever mentioned it really
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the TV thing I had already thought TV has been very frustrating for me for a
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long time. Well, you've had to shop for one, unfortunately. Rip Luke's TV a
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couple times recently. >> Yeah. And but even like someone will ask
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me for a recommendation, I'm just like gh like I don't feel good about any of
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the recommendations. >> Like, well, Samsung has these really great looking, you know, QD OLEDs. Um,
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too bad Tyson OS. >> Yep. >> LG has some pretty good-look W OLEDs.
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Too bad WebOS has taken a sharp right
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turn into Crapsville. >> Yeah. So, just none of it feels good.
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So, definitely TVs. Outside of that, I
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might need some thinking. >> All right, I'm going to I'm going to go with mine. I'm going to see if this kind
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of like I'm going to see if this kind of vibes with people, but I would actually
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love to see framework get into SBC's
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like single board computers.
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It's a it's a space where the the cost
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has crept up on people in a way that was
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never really the like >> the idea, you know, like the the kind of
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the Raspberry Pi contract. >> It wasn't the original sales pitch.
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>> The original sales pitch was these things are hyper affordable. They're
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bare bones. Um, and they've just kind of
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um they they've just kind of gotten bloated both in terms of the the feature
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set and in terms of price. And there are still like very basic ones, but it has
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felt like for some time that the availability of the ones that are like,
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you know, supposed to be affordable has been not great. And some of the
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alternatives are not necessarily getting the TLC in terms of of of compatibility
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that the the name brand, you know, Raspberry Pies have. I would be I'd be
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very interested in something like a framework Pi if they were able to work
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with their manufacturing partners that they obviously have for things like the
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um like the the laptop, right? They obviously can can make a circuit board,
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right? Uh, I'd be I'd be interested to see if they could if they could make
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if they could somehow bring their like upgradeable repable ethos to single
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board computers. And I I I don't know, maybe maybe it's not realistic and maybe
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it'd be a stupid business for them to go into because who wants an ASP of like
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$15 or 20 bucks or whatever, but it's
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somewhere that I I feel like potentially they could make they could make a
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difference. >> Speaking of uh stupid business for them
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to go into. Yeah. Um, with the EU's
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thing, which I don't think we've talked about it yet, but it's one of the topics on this show, I believe. Sometimes the
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WAN shows really blur into each other for me, but um, is uh, phones. The EU is
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pushing replaceable battery phones. >> Mhm. >> Now could be the time.
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>> Framework has said publicly that they'll never do it.
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>> That's probably wise. >> And Fairphone already exists.
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>> Yeah. And I think, you know, for me,
23:51
for Framework to have a reason to come in and like compete with Fairphone, take
23:57
that tiny tiny market share of people who care more about like the
24:02
sustainability and and repairability aspect than they do about like, you
24:06
know, a phone being a more cohesive,
24:10
high performance product. And then cut that down the middle. It would it feels
24:14
like it would be a disservice to both of them to to to wedge themselves in there
24:18
unless they were really bringing up like a powerful value to it.
24:22
>> At this point people aren't just buying I I know this isn't what you were
24:26
saying. I'm not saying oh so you hate hot dogs. I'm just talking. Uh but I I
24:30
think at this point people are just buying some people are just buying
24:34
frameworks cuz they're cool. >> Oh dude, frameworks are trendy.
24:38
>> Yeah, they're like just kind of sweet. Seeing how excited people are to have no
24:41
investment in >> cheer for this company has been very cool. And you know what? Speaking of
24:46
speaking of cool, >> how much better is Narav on camera than
24:49
he used? >> He's he's a lot better. I I was I was
24:53
like this is improved quite >> very noticeable.
24:57
>> I saw a couple comments about it too. >> He's like he used to be just awkward and
25:01
now he's like kind of cool awkward like trendy awkward. I I I'm I'm sure it
25:05
helps doing our videos, but I suspect in general he's just been doing a lot more
25:08
of those types. >> Yeah. And he's Well, he has to talk to people. He's a CEO. He has to motivate.
25:12
He has to like give speeches and stuff, I assume. Right. >> Yeah. >> So, you just you you get practiced at
25:16
public speaking. You don't really have a choice. But yeah, no, I thought uh I
25:20
thought he did a great job in the video. >> Um why don't we do a great job of
25:24
finding another awesome topic to talk about? There's so much this week.
25:29
>> Yeah. Um this that was not shouted out.
25:32
Maybe we should get through the ones we mentioned at the beginning. Um,
25:36
Ashley Psych, I'm going to pull an audible and do the topic line I said
25:41
that I should have brought up at the beginning. Uh, or that he expected I was
25:44
going to bring up the >> Okay, let's do it. >> Gemini has escaped from the cloud. Uh,
25:48
Sircale, I've never heard this verbally said, so I'm going to call it Sircale.
25:52
Uh, Seroscale Cloud Services announced an an expanded partnership with Google
25:56
Cloud on Wednesday that will allow them to offer the full Google Gemini model to
26:02
be used completely offline on airgapped
26:07
unfortunately Google certified hardware appliances built by Dell and featuring
26:12
eight NVIDIA GPUs. So, this isn't >> Hold on. Can we get a Can we get a Luke
26:18
[ __ ] called it? Yeah. Can I get one of those, Dan? Can I
26:22
Can I get one of those? >> This is >> Yeah, don't worry about it. >> This is probably the most like direct
26:28
version of what I was talking about that has been announced so far cuz this is
26:32
like an appliance that you buy that runs the the premium cloud only version of a
26:38
model and locally for big businesses. This is that like, oh hey, there's going
26:43
to be mainframes again type conversation that I had uh in in the past. I don't
26:47
remember exactly how I worded it, but something like that. Um th this will
26:51
back to the notes. This will allow sectors with serious privacy concerns,
26:55
healthcare, government, defense, finance,
26:58
etc., etc., etc., uh to avoid risking exposure of sensitive data on third
27:03
party infrastructure. All the customers data, inputs, outputs, etc. It's it's
27:08
secure because of this. uh updating your local Gemini will will require a private
27:13
uh sorry a temporary private connection to Google servers or physically shipping
27:17
your appliance to Google and being sent the new version. That's
27:21
>> so this is for this is for big boys. >> Yeah.
27:25
>> But while this isn't, you know, quite the way that I think, you know, Luke
27:29
would want to do it if he was rolling his own infra. >> Yeah. Not at all. What it is is a clear
27:34
acknowledgement that the cloud it didn't
27:37
fail, but it wasn't the perfect solution
27:41
for everyone that it was hailed as.
27:45
>> Well, and like whether or not you believe the stuff with mythos and
27:48
whatnot going on right now. Um, I think
27:51
honestly the various wars more than anything else
27:56
have been showing us that just a lot of software is just pretty vulnerable the
28:01
stuff if people are willing to spend the time and often the money to work hard
28:07
enough to poke at it. >> And the more connected it is,
28:10
>> the more places there are to poke at it. >> Yeah. So, if it can just be not
28:15
connected, then there you go. Um, yeah, Google IP is protected by confidential
28:20
computing protection, whatever the heck that is. And Serale CEO Dave Driggers
28:26
explained that the Gemini model resides entirely in volatile memory. As soon as
28:31
the power is off, the model is gone. If the system detects any form of
28:36
tampering, it shuts itself down to wipe the model.
28:40
That's in a weird way. That's kind of cool.
28:43
>> Yeah, >> that sucks for me. It's like Dr. Dofen Schmmer's made it.
28:47
It just It has to have a self-destruct button no matter No matter how
28:50
superfluous it is. >> That's That's wild. I I don't mean cool in like a like That's great.
28:55
>> But it's cool technology. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You got to you got to respect it.
29:00
>> Yeah. Um I I guess you know with the
29:03
description of the types of places that might get one of these. And assuming the
29:06
cost considering it features eight NVIDIA GPUs and all this other kind of
29:10
stuff, um you got some backup power
29:13
options. I think I think it's not a huge problem. Um JB leaves a note. It's not
29:18
clear from the article, but I'm assuming model in this case might be um talking
29:23
specifically about model weights. Otherwise, Google physically shipping you a new version doesn't make any
29:28
sense. Yeah, I mean it literally did say or I
29:33
was kind of wondering about that too, but it did say earlier like you would literally ship the unit back, didn't it?
29:38
>> You could you could ship it back to get updates. >> You could ship the whole unit back.
29:42
>> That's crazy. So, like
29:46
they might be serious about that. I'm not sure. Uh, but yeah, wild. Kind of
29:50
cool. I I I understand that like you can
29:54
if you pay out the freaking nose, you can get a lot better like performing uh
30:00
models online right now. But self-hosting models is really cool. And
30:05
there's some really crazy stuff. There's a there's a MacOSS specific thing. This
30:09
isn't in the notes, so I I'm not going to have details on it, but there's a macOS specific
30:14
model of some kind, uh, whatever. I don't know. I don't remember the name of
30:17
it, but it like basically lives on your cursor, your like mouse cursor. So, as
30:24
you're going around and doing things, it'll have like the context of what
30:28
you're looking at, and it runs locally, and it can try to help you with things.
30:31
And somebody was talking about how they were learning how to use Da Vinci Resolve and as they were kind of poking
30:36
around it would just like I haven't used it and I don't have notes on this so
30:40
whatever. Uh I saw that via XDA. Yeah, maybe I can find it. XDA cursor
30:46
>> cursor peep. >> Cursor peep. >> Is that what it's called? I don't know. That's what Hamnetics said. I I haven't
30:50
heard of this so I'm >> It sounds a little creepy,
30:55
>> not going to lie, but it runs locally. >> Theoretically it runs locally.
30:59
Of course people not No. So, that's not the name of it, man. I can't remember
31:03
the name of it. Um, yeah. Anyways, it sounded kind of neat.
31:08
Uh, there's there's a and I and I'm fairly certain it it runs locally. Um,
31:14
this >> Yeah,
31:17
my Google Fu is still strong. >> It's a relatively small model
31:21
>> and it's running locally, but it's helpful theoretically. I mean, I haven't
31:26
used it. This is the vibe I got from looking through the article. >> Very cool. But there's there's like
31:30
there's cool stuff you can do with with local hosting. And honestly, for a lot
31:35
of the use cases people have, you don't need the massive super powerful models.
31:39
You can just run some stuff locally and it can still be helpful.
31:44
>> In try it out. >> In other um sort of AI adjacent news, I
31:50
don't know if this counts as good news except that it means that I was right,
31:54
which I never mind. >> It's good for you. Elon Musk confirmed
31:58
on Tesla's Q1 2026 earnings call what he
32:02
had hedged about on a previous earning call in January 2025. Um he has
32:08
confirmed now that every Tesla sold between 2019 and 2023 that had their
32:12
hardware 3 hardware cannot achieve
32:16
unsupervised full self-driving and never
32:19
will. This time there was no hedging. This is a quote. Hardware 3 simply does
32:24
not have the capability. This is not a quote. Owners would need
32:28
both a new computer and new cameras if
32:32
they were to upgrade to hardware 4. Uh, as recently, this is interesting. As
32:36
recently as October 2025, Tesla's own CFO was still telling investors, "We
32:42
have not completely given up on hardware 3."
32:46
I'm going to go off notes for a little bit here. Um,
32:51
duh.
32:58
That was off notes. We just need to make sure. >> Do you remember me telling you?
33:02
>> Nobody typed that. Do you remember me telling you a year ago that I got in
33:06
that argument with that guy at at someone's birthday party where I was
33:09
like, "Yeah, hey, I know you're like a finance bro or whatever and you're like
33:14
really good at being a finance bro, but don't you think at some point the
33:18
liability of selling millions of cars
33:21
based on that they have a feature that they like completely [ __ ] don't have
33:25
and will never ever have is going to be a problem that might affect the like
33:30
finance bro care out sphere of finance.
33:34
Uh I realize that everything I'm saying is very very complicated but like this
33:40
computer no dewy thing you say doy maybe
33:45
bad timy. Um
33:49
>> what are they going to do about it? Do they say >> they haven't um we can hold on let me
33:53
get back to the notes for a second here. The core problem is memory bandwidth. Hardware 3 has 1/8 of what hardware 4
33:58
offers. uh which Musk says makes it physically impossible to run the AI
34:02
models needed for true autonomy. Many of these owners paid up to $15,000
34:07
for full self-driving based on the promise that it was just a software update away. Uh multiple class action
34:12
lawsuits have already been filed. Now, I
34:16
want to make something clear. I obviously seem a little, let's call it,
34:22
validated right now. That's not because I'm rooting against autonomous vehicles.
34:28
It's not because I'm even rooting against Tesla. It's because I like
34:32
seeing liars get their comeuppants. And
34:35
he was obviously lying. Hardware 3, I remember talking
34:41
about this way back then. Hardware 3, even if it was years and years ahead of
34:47
its competition, was a small chip compared to what other leaders in the
34:52
space were building like NVIDIA at the time. And they were like, not close. It
34:57
just obviously was not powerful enough.
35:02
Obviously. And there's no way that Tesla hasn't known this for years. Because if
35:09
it was good enough to do full self-driving, do you really think that
35:13
they would go to all the work to make a new chip?
35:17
Why? That's not how the automotive industry works. when they have something
35:21
that performs the function they want it to perform, they keep making the same
35:25
one because that's way cheaper. Or they
35:28
do what like a console manufacturer might do where midlife they will move it
35:33
to a new process mode in order to take advantage of better power efficiency uh
35:37
and better um better uh uh thermal
35:40
management. >> They don't just build something that has
35:44
eight times the memory bandwidth for
35:48
fun.
35:51
Um Musk says that Tesla will offer
35:55
discounted tradeins towards hardware for cars or direct retrofits but admits the
36:01
volume is so massive that service centers can't handle it.
36:04
>> His solution is building microactories in major cities to run the upgrades like
36:08
production lines though no timeline, no
36:12
cost and no concrete details were given.
36:15
Uh there's a Lionus note on this one. This is actually the second time he's
36:19
admitted that hardware 3 is not going to be able to do it. The last time was a
36:22
tweet though. Uh this time was in an earnings call where, you know, maybe it
36:27
matters, but probably doesn't. It's It's been very remarkable for me to watch how
36:33
many times obvious lies have been told
36:37
in context where like legally you're not
36:40
allowed to lie like that. Um and this
36:44
company just has not been called on it. And I just I find the whole thing very
36:50
very baffling. I often get asked, you know, why do you hate Elon? I don't hate
36:53
Elon, but I don't respect people who
36:57
don't respect me enough to look me in the eye and tell me the truth. If you
37:02
can look me in the eye and lie to me over and over and over and over again,
37:07
why should I respect you in return? You're just a liar.
37:12
And to me, it's it's one of the worst things you can be to have no integrity
37:16
and to just to just brazenly lie. I
37:20
don't respect it.
37:27
Do you think there's any room for him
37:30
having hope that they could make it somehow
37:34
wildly more efficient and adapted or something? >> So, here's my thing.
37:38
>> Because why would he's going to have to announce it eventually. Why would he wait? He's I
37:42
>> What's the benefit in doing it now instead of a few years ago? >> Um the benefit of doing it now is
37:46
they've kind of pivoted to new shiny with Optimus, >> the robots and stuff.
37:50
>> Um >> like it's it's about it's about managing
37:55
the mood as much as it is about even
37:59
more than it is about, you know, financial results or actual product development or or anything like that.
38:03
It's it's about it's about keeping people chill with the vibe. Um, so this
38:09
is this is right in the leadup to the SpaceX IPO, which is going to have him
38:13
in the news for for positive reasons again. So, a quiet uh yeah, that's not
38:18
going to work. But like we've got all these ideas for a plan. By the way, by
38:21
the way, SpaceX SpaceX SpaceX um it's
38:25
it's just it's part of the grift, right? It's part of the it's part of the game
38:28
>> to to just kind of keep things going. And you know, as for do I think that
38:34
there's a world where he really believed that it was one quarter away, well, I
38:38
would it would have to be one of two things. Either he's a liar or he's stupid.
38:46
And I don't know. I'll let him pick which one he wants to be because there's
38:50
no way that someone with all the experience running tech companies that
38:55
he has would have any way of thinking
38:58
possibly like when it's so obvious to a you know pathetic YouTuber like me.
39:03
There's no way that he didn't have people internally telling him, hey, this
39:08
isn't going to happen. Um so he's either a liar or he's an idiot. And so I don't
39:13
know. You guys can pick which one it is, but those are the only two options. If
39:18
he actually believed that it was coming next quarter, then he's a fool. And if
39:23
he didn't believe it, then he's clearly a liar. So those are those are our only
39:27
two choices here.
39:30
David needs to speak to me. Okay. Uh Luke, do you want to do you want to pick
39:34
a topic? >> Probably something I can grab. >> David apologizes in advance. He doesn't
39:38
mean it. Yeah.
39:43
>> Uh, what should we talk about? Uh, I'm
39:47
going to steal this topic. Uh, ex Xbox drops Game Pass prices as Call of Duty
39:53
officially exits services day one launch
39:57
uh, slate strategy. Now, this is a thing
40:00
where it doesn't mean That was really fast. Um, it does. Are you back? Good.
40:06
You're back for good. Yes. Okay, got it. Um,
40:10
>> I didn't even have f time to finish crunching that chip outside of the
40:13
microphone range. Um, no, I do actually have a quick update for you guys.
40:19
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Dan can handle it. >> Okay, carry on. Uh, so we were talking
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about how Xbox uh drops its price as Call of Duty is exiting the day one
40:42
launch strategy thing. So, Xbox has officially dropped the price of Game
40:45
Pass Ultimate from $30 to $23 a month.
40:48
That's actually >> huge. What the heck?
40:52
Immediately with PC Game Pass also falling from 1650 to $14. Uh, but
40:58
there's a big catch. New Call of Duty titles will no longer be uh launched day
41:03
one on the service. Uh, instead they'll show up about a year later.
41:08
>> That's kind of a yikes. >> During the following holiday season with
41:11
the COD release schedule, that basically means it's not on there.
41:16
>> You can play the single player, I guess. >> Or you can play like you can play COD
41:20
with your friends or you can play like poor poor people COD and be ostracized.
41:24
Like when you think about the social pressure of having like the one that
41:28
everyone's playing, that's basically that's basically the divide that they're
41:32
creating here. That's a really interesting line cuz like is it
41:37
so they're saying $7 less per user
41:42
>> is worth it if people are still going to buy full fat COD outside of that.
41:46
>> Yeah. This this gives us insight that we would not have any other way of getting
41:52
>> how much of the like the cost of game pass is
41:59
just Call of Duty. Is that wild or what?
42:03
>> Well, at least what they think it is. Yeah. >> Yeah. At least at least what they're projecting. And it's not like they
42:06
haven't had a Call of Duty launch on Game Pass. So, it's >> Yeah, it's got some pretty good
42:10
information. >> I'm sure it's based on something. >> Mhm.
42:13
>> That's That's pretty crazy. >> And I I know uh the new Microsoft gaming
42:18
CEO, Xbox CEO uh person said like, "Oh,
42:22
Game Pass is too expensive." But I don't think this is just altruistic. I think
42:26
it's going to be a business move. Um, >> yeah, she she's actually been seemingly
42:30
doing some pretty based stuff so far. >> I like the moves she's at least saying
42:34
that she's making so far. >> Yeah, >> I know. I was I was pretty tentative on
42:37
her because she came from AI background. >> Um, but yeah, the statements I've seen
42:42
so far are good. The like we are Xbox, we should drop the whole Microsoft
42:45
gaming thing. Was dope. >> Did you see the new Xbox logo?
42:49
>> No, >> dude. It's badass.
42:53
>> Yo, >> so the uh it's back. Yeah, the like this
42:57
thing is gone >> good >> and this is back.
43:00
>> That's so good. >> That's sick. So, I don't know.
43:03
>> Keep making good moves and and maybe one singular thing out of Microsoft lately
43:07
will be good. I'm I'm willing to be uh I'm willing to
43:12
be open-minded on that, you know. Uh but yeah, I mean game game pass price drop
43:17
is is sweet. Um the the new logo looks
43:20
fantastic. Like the whole idea of really centralizing around Xbox instead of
43:23
Microsoft gaming is is great. >> She made a statement. She made a
43:27
statement about like, you know, games being human crafted,
43:31
>> which I thought was pretty pretty chill. >> Cool. Sweet. >> Yep. Did you finish all of this reading
43:36
through all of it? >> No. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. Carry on. >> Uh, this comes just days after the new
43:41
Microsoft CEO, Ash Chararma, uh, leaked
43:44
Asha, sorry, Asha Chararma leaked memo
43:47
called Game Pass too expensive. The price hike to $30 only happened in
43:52
October 2025, one month before Black Black Ops 7 launched. Okay, so it was
43:58
raised for that. So, I just lowered it back down. That's fine. Um, for context,
44:01
Bloomberg reports day one COD access
44:04
cost Microsoft over $300 million in loss
44:08
sales last year with Black Ops 7 launch sales down over 60% in some uh markets.
44:14
Wild. Microsoft spent $69 billion dollars to buy Call of Duty, put it on
44:19
Game Pass, hiked the price to cover it, and is now pulling it back out. Was the
44:22
whole thing worth it? I mean, if they're
44:27
I mean, it could be. >> Dude, we're at the point now where like
44:30
the the the the billions of dollars for
44:34
company acquisitions have gotten just crazy. Like, remember when Twitch sold
44:38
for $1 billion and everyone went, "Whoa."
44:43
Okay, like for context, Twitch, while not a money maker,
44:48
is a strong brand with like strong
44:52
recognizability for younger people with countless users.
44:58
like it's it's a it's a hyper powerful
45:02
social media video platform and it sold for a billion dollars and then it was
45:06
just like what what what was it like 10 years later or whatever else that
45:10
Twitter sold for 44 billion and you know
45:15
I I just it's it's Yeah. Are you talking
45:19
about this uh 1.75 trillion or whatever? Yeah. Okay. So, so SpaceX acquires
45:24
Cursor for60 billion.
45:28
>> They have they have the right to. They haven't actually done it yet, but Cursor
45:33
has been like, "You can buy us for $60 billion."
45:36
>> But are we just are we just reaching a point where these numbers are just kind
45:41
of pure silliness with absolutely no attachment whatsoever to business
45:45
reality or or is that or is that point well in the rearview mirror behind us?
45:50
Like I just >> I think it's I think it's behind us to be completely honest.
45:53
>> Like I I I would sell Linus Media Group for for $60 billion or I'd sell the
45:59
right to acquire Linus Media Group for $60 billion. No problem. It's like
46:02
what's what's I bet I'm more profitable than them. >> It's just as legitimately on paper as
46:07
the uh the the memory purchases from Sam Alman.
46:10
>> Yeah, exactly. >> Amir in full chat said, "As a British Indian, I can confirm it's pronounced
46:15
more like Asha." >> Thank you. >> Sounds good. Um,
46:22
>> was it worth it? >> Wild. >> I mean, technically they did get more
46:26
than just Call of Duty. There was Candy Crush Saga,
46:32
>> World of Warcraft, >> whatever stuff Blizzard is pissing away.
46:36
Um,
46:39
I've heard people are happy with the the new stuff.
46:43
>> Oh, yeah. >> I I don't even remember what it's called. >> Latest candies. No, the WoW stuff.
46:49
>> Oh, really? >> Uh, midnight. Midnight.
46:52
>> Okay. Well, that's cool. Yeah. Oh, okay. Ollie cool says, "Yeah, new WoW good."
46:58
>> Overwatch is apparently also like
47:01
I think since they just gave up on the whole two stuff,
47:05
>> it's been getting more traction again, which is interesting. >> Wow. Rob Phil says, "Starcraft tabletop
47:10
game coming." >> What? >> What?
47:14
>> Interesting. Please don't tell me it's just risk. >> You have my attention.
47:20
>> You know, game inspired tabletop games have been doing pretty well lately.
47:24
Actually, >> starcraftm.com.
47:29
Maybe the page will load. About our
47:33
>> Oh, I'm on it. My page loaded. >> Nice. Okay. What am I What am I What am
47:37
I looking at here? What am I looking at? >> Tabletop miniatures game. So, is it Warhammer?
47:43
These are very concept arty. 60 to 120
47:47
minutes. >> It's Warhammer. >> Oh, okay. I mean, sure.
47:53
>> Oh, it sure is Warhammer.
47:56
>> Oh, >> okay. So, they're just chasing that
47:59
Warhammer money. >> Yeah, >> it's cheaper than Warhammer.
48:02
>> Apparently, them Warhammer gamers got them monies.
48:06
>> All right. >> My god. >> I mean, they don't call it Warhammer
48:09
401k for a reason.
48:12
That's pretty good. I've never heard that before. >> I haven't either. That is pretty good.
48:16
>> That's good. That's good. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Okay.
48:20
>> Are you going to load a price, please? >> I don't think it's going to happen.
48:23
>> All right. Well, anyway, good luck with that, Blizzard.
48:26
>> Yeah. Um, >> yeah, let's uh let let's do let's do a
48:31
thing. Let's >> All right.
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that's over at LMG.gg/flatlane, you'll get an even lower threshold. So
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this is a perfect time to sign up for Floatplane. Uh, all you have to do is
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sign up for, I believe it's the $13 a month tier, and that will push your
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minimums down to $100 US or $175
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sweet deals for you. We have buy more, save more on blank TE's, uh, scribe
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Uh, what else am I supposed to be doing, Dan? >> Couple comms if you want.
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>> Oh, right. Okay. Right. And if you if you send uh if you place your order now,
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then it's a perfect time to uh send a comm a checkout message. We don't
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believe in sort of throwing money at your screen just, you know, in hopes
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that maybe your favorite streamer senpai will notice you. We think that it it's
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great for us to be able to interact with you guys, but we also want you to get
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quality merchandise in the mail. So, we created checkout messages, which are the
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best way to interact with the WAN Show. All you got to do is head over to
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>> Shameless plug. Shameless plug. >> Nice. Nice. >> New site, by the way.
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>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The new site is live. Now is a great time to go just
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like browse the site and check out all the cool stuff. The the team worked super hard on this.
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>> Um, by the way, by the way, the multi-pocket leggings, dude. Smash.
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>> Oh yeah. >> Do you remember me talking about like, hey, we really need this to be a success
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or like women's apparel might not be a thing, dude. But they're gone. >> Classic LT store fashion. Tried to get
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some for for friends and family. They're gone.
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>> So many sizes are sold out. So if you want to have a shot at them, now is a
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great time to go check it out. Anyway, I don't know. for a scribe driver in the cart. So, all you got to do is throw
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something in your cart and you will see
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>> the checkout message interface. You can leave a message that'll go to producer
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Dan who will reply to it or he will uh
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just pop it up like that one that's up at the top right now or he will curate
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it for me and Luke to respond to. By the
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way, there's a new dashboard where you can see your checkout messages. How do
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people access that? >> Uh where is it exactly?
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>> So just in case you missed the little, you know, the little popup like this. Um
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>> I think it's at the bottom here. >> There's a spot somewhere.
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>> Yeah. So if we go to my screen, check out message portal right here.
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>> Yeah. So if you're signed in, there you go.
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>> Nice. That is That is like the geekiest 1990s
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how many page visits my Geio City site has received thing that I have seen in
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forever. I actually kind of like it. >> Oh yeah, >> that's pretty cool. That's very cool.
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>> All right. Anyway, uh Dan, do you want to show us how it works by u curating a
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couple of checkout messages for us? Uh before hold on before you do that
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though, uh David Gochier's neighbor Joseph is apparently a huge LTT fan and
52:30
it's his birthday this week. Oh, >> happy birthday, Joseph.
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>> Happy birthday, Joseph. >> David never asked for anything like that. So, when he was like, "Hey, it
52:38
would mean a lot to me if you could shout out Joseph." I was like, "Yes, you
52:42
know, sure thing, sir." All right, Dan. Hit me.
52:46
Sure thing. Happy storm sale, DLL. Can you please tell the story of what
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happened to the Moto shirt? I was going to buy one as a gift for my employee.
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Only one. It's all that was deserving.
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>> No, I can't. Okay. Sorry. What What was the question?
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>> The Moto shirt is no longer on the site.
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>> Oh, yeah. Up next,
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>> I at some point I may or may not know
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what I may or may not be able to say about it,
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>> but it is not this day. How has the process for vetting sponsors
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evolved over time? any learnings you care to share?
53:31
>> Yeah, actually I mean I think in the very early days we didn't really have a
53:36
lot of choice. It was it was pretty much whoever was in my Rolodex from my time
53:40
at NCIX and you know was willing to go
53:43
to bat for me and and try to try to allocate some of the budget that at the
53:48
time would have been predominantly allocated to like written media for this
53:52
like new fangled YouTube sponsorships
53:55
thing. Um it it's it's it's still wild
53:58
to me how long the transition took and even now as has continued to take given
54:05
how how data heavy uh video is and how
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sort of like obviously more trustworthy those metrics are compared to more
54:13
traditional mediums like magazines like I've talked about this on the land show
54:17
before but did you know that the way that magazines calculate how much you're
54:21
paying for ads assumes that that magazine gets read cover to cover like
54:26
like six times or something like that. Like at newspapers too, like they would
54:30
calculate that every newspaper passed through multiple people's hands and that
54:34
every person who looked at it looked at every single ad like like it's like it
54:38
was crazy. Uh whereas with video, we had, you know, the world's biggest
54:43
advertising company with the most sort
54:46
of, as far as I could tell, trustworthy
54:50
analytics saying, "Hey, you got this many views." and people just like they
54:54
weren't into it. They weren't interested in it. So for a long time it was whoever
54:58
would go to bat for me and and would you know get us the support to to to sponsor
55:03
the videos. And then from there there was a a big transition
55:08
to uh like radio advertisers were moving
55:11
into podcasting and then from podcasting
55:14
it's a pretty natural transition into like video podcasts and then from there
55:19
a lot of those folks like the Squarespaces of the world uh the like
55:23
Dollar Shave Clubs of the world made their way into into YouTube. Um, from
55:28
there that model proved so successful for companies like Dollar Shave Club
55:33
that uh in in growing their business that I think over time it just became
55:38
sort of part of the playbook. And so nowadays um like I was I was at a
55:43
conference recently for YouTubers and YouTube executives. It's it's over now
55:48
so I can I can disclose that it existed.
55:51
And uh one of the big things that that YouTube was talking about that other
55:55
creators are talking about is like major major brand partnerships. You know, one
55:59
talked about working with McDonald's um they showed this example of like a like
56:04
a collaboration between State Farm and like a more athletic oriented YouTuber
56:08
who tried to kick like a whole bunch of field goals or something like that. Um
56:12
so nowadays you have kind of
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>> did a State Farm thing. So you got a ton of choice these days. And so back to
56:21
your question about vetting, I guess what I'll say is in the early days we
56:24
didn't really have to because it was all brands that we like already were
56:29
intimately familiar with the product or the people and so we like we knew or
56:33
later on it was super established brands who if they had a bunch of really awful
56:37
skeletons in their closet they would uh it would have come up at some point in
56:41
the podcasting world which is like kind of a more sort of professional old
56:45
school media space. And then now that
56:48
your inbox at any given time, if you're a a midsized or up creator, is just
56:52
going to be full of sponsorship opportunities.
56:56
It's a it's a ton of work. So, I got to give a ton of credit to both our
57:00
business team and our uh our community.
57:03
So, we actually uh I I think the team
57:07
does a quite good job of just sort of doing background checks on sponsors that
57:11
we work with. And I also think our community does a really good job of of
57:15
highlighting things that arise with the brands that
57:19
we're working with that don't align with our values and with our expectations
57:23
which I think in turn elevates the perception of the brands that do meet
57:28
the bar and that do work with you know Linus Media Group. So, um, you know, for
57:33
us, our our brand selection really comes down to that they operate with
57:37
integrity. Um, that they take care of
57:41
our viewers. Like, if one of our viewers comes to us and basically goes like,
57:44
"Yeah, this this brand screwed me over.
57:47
Like, I got scammed. Um, and I have receipts, you know, that's something
57:51
that we want to know." And we have feedback. We have a feedback forum for
57:54
that at least techtips.com on the forum.
57:58
Um, and that's that's a that's a huge part of it, just maintaining that that
58:02
accountability and that integrity all the way uh all the way up and down.
58:07
>> This is super off topic, but you were talking about Dollar Shave Club and I I
58:10
realized that I haven't heard about them
58:13
in freaking forever. So, I just looked
58:16
it up and like they do still exist, but I was like genuinely somewhat surprised
58:21
by that. I find it really interesting certain companies
58:27
uh maybe even certain products I looked it up apparently uh Dollar Shave Club is
58:31
under capital management now so like okay whatever. Um but certain companies
58:36
they just sort of stop eventually.
58:40
I find this especially in like you know like >> well they run out of VC capital
58:44
>> snacks and certain like grocery stores. >> Yeah. Like just was like spending money
58:48
like there was no tomorrow and then suddenly there was no tomorrow. >> Yeah. But but even like even like uh I
58:54
>> Savage Jerky. Is that another example? >> No, I I'm I'm talking even big brand
58:58
stuff. >> Oh, sure. I mean, >> like even even if you're like under the
59:02
Coke umbrella or something. >> Oh my god. >> Madras not only still exist, but they
59:06
have a Dave the Diver like
59:10
>> what what what is this? Is it like an energy powder thing? That's hilarious.
59:14
All right. >> Squid flavor. >> Sure. Sure. Why not? Um, but there will
59:20
be like some think of some like snack that would have been advertised on TV
59:24
like crazy when we were kids and then you never hear about it on any form of
59:28
advertisement ever in many years at the store.
59:32
>> I literally haven't seen Dunkaroo. >> There was Dunkaroo ads like every
59:36
channel. Dunkaroos get as much frosting
59:40
as you. >> I'm sure they still exist.
59:44
>> But like it's Yeah, they for sure. It's It's weird to me though that they'll
59:49
just they'll just stop at some point. They will just completely turn off the
59:55
the advertising pipeline.
59:58
>> But this you can't call it a nostalgic snack
60:01
>> and then shake the cookie like that. >> It was a foot.
60:06
>> Gh. >> Terrible. Literally literally inedible.
60:10
>> I don't know if I had dunkaroos, but yeah, there was ads for them everywhere and then they just stopped. There's
60:14
there's a ton of things like that, too. When you walk through the grocery store,
60:17
it's like almost a weird if you go through like mostly the boxed goods
60:21
area, obviously. Um it's kind of a weird
60:24
experience of like, oh yeah, I remember ads for that thing like 20 years ago.
60:30
I've never heard of it ever since other than it just being on the shelf. Um,
60:34
it's it's just interesting to me like how these if it's Coke, I kind of
60:38
understand cuz you probably have an R&D group that's for just like all of your
60:44
different product lines and you'll just release some stuff kind of whatever. But
60:48
if you're a relatively smaller company like
60:53
what you just like fire everyone and stop, but you just keep making your
60:57
product, I guess. >> I literally don't know. Apparently, there were lots of different shapes of
61:00
dunk. >> Interesting. I'm I'm finding other shapes of donarus.
61:03
>> Coke also has murder squads to help. Yeah. I'm not endorsing them.
61:07
>> That's a whole separate thing. >> Yeah. To be clear, >> happened in a whole separate country.
61:11
Completely out of your jurisdiction. So, what are you going to do about it? >> Throw it out of court. It's a wild story
61:16
if you want to go down a rabbit hole. >> Yeah, it really it really is. >> Um, okay.
61:21
>> Oh, speaking of uh, you know, brands sort of doing things that are not always
61:26
totally predictable. Uh, or wait, are do you still owe us another com? Oh, no.
61:29
We're moving into topics now. I mean, we could do another one. I would probably prefer that. We have quite a few.
61:33
>> Okay. All right. Let's do one more. >> I am looking at possibly getting a new
61:38
handheld. I know Lionus has a large variety of them. I have the OG Steam
61:42
Deck. Is it worth it to upgrade to something different? Money is not in
61:46
consideration. >> Oh, I mean, yeah, sure. If money is not
61:50
in consideration, buy one of each. >> Okay. I know people don't hate it when
61:54
they say that. >> People never really mean that money is
61:57
not a consideration. Money is always a
62:00
consideration. You could literally be shopping for a private jet and money
62:05
would still be a consideration because there's there's degrees of copious
62:09
amount of money. But okay, I'm going to I'm going to assume that what you meant
62:13
is that you could fit into your budget
62:17
any one handheld. And if that's the
62:20
case, I got to tell you that I haven't
62:24
yet seen my perfect Steam Deck upgrade.
62:30
There are handhelds that are bigger.
62:34
There are handhelds that are better. There are or faster rather. There are
62:39
ones that are that have features that
62:43
the Steam Deck doesn't have. Um, you
62:46
know, like if you wanted an OLED screen, you could get this one. Or if you wanted
62:51
>> Steam Deck OLED >> better compatibility. Uh, yeah, but they have a they have an original Steam Deck,
62:55
though. >> Uh, if if you wanted more compatibility, there's ones that run Windows. If you
63:00
wanted one with detachable like Joy-Con things that have like mice in them.
63:04
Lenovo has one that does that. Like there's you name a gimmick, somebody has
63:08
it. If you want one that has like erggo grips, there's the Xbox Ally Series X
63:12
Ally thing. um you know some something like that, right? But Valve keeps
63:19
saying, "Hey, we need like like next
63:23
generation level hardware in order to rev the Steam
63:28
Deck in order to do a Steam Deck 2."
63:31
And Valve keeps holding off
63:34
and I I kind of it's hard for me to disagree with them.
63:39
Now, with that said, I do daily a more powerful handheld. I have an ROG Ally
63:45
that's actually my daily driver, which is crazy because I actually have an Xbox
63:49
ROG Alli X, whatever it's called thing in my house that I don't use because,
63:54
and this is going to be crazy sounding, when I'm playing handheld, I actually
63:58
prefer the flat deck compared to the
64:01
like the like erggo grip thing. Or at least I don't prefer the grips enough to
64:08
be worth how much extra space it takes up in my backpack. Do you think it's uh
64:11
Okay, that's a pretty interesting argument. Do you think it's hand size?
64:14
>> I think that's part of it, but I think it's also just like
64:18
>> that the erggo grip thing is like perfect for playing like this. And I
64:24
don't always play like this. >> Okay. >> Sometimes I'm lying on my tummy,
64:28
sometimes I roll over onto my back and and the flat deck just works a little
64:33
better for me. So that ally that I upgraded on ShortCircuit with the JO
64:36
upgraded battery and then the new back on it. So, it's a little bit heavier. Is
64:41
is actually still my preferred handheld
64:44
out of out of all of them. Even though it's like an like an older it's an older
64:48
handheld, sir, but it checks out. You know, >> my f I I I never played it laying down
64:53
looking up. Um, but my my favorite for
64:57
ergonomics handheld, if you can even call it that, was that the the Wii U
65:01
controller. >> Oh, yeah. >> I really liked >> Oh, yeah.
65:04
>> the the like feel. That's one of the reasons why I was like a little
65:07
frustrated with the Switch when it first came out was I was like,
65:12
I get it. The Wii U controller is really bulky cuz it was set up for a home
65:15
console, but >> the Switch like practically pocketable by comparison like
65:19
>> but it just it didn't feel like my my hands were very cramped on the original
65:23
Switch. >> Yeah. >> I mean, my hands were cramped on the original Switch.
65:26
>> Okay. Okay. With that said, there is there is a handheld that uh you know it
65:32
is is next generation in terms of performance, but you would be spending
65:37
>> Yeah. >> Here, hold on. What is a Win Five go for
65:40
right now? Here it is. gpdstore.net. Okay, nine reviews. Okay, people
65:46
mostly are pretty into it. Okay, that's
65:49
good to know. This guy's a little disappointed, but still gave it three stars.
65:54
All right, what's a win five worth right now?
65:58
two grand. That's not even the top configuration. That is the base
66:04
configuration. One terabte of storage.
66:08
That's actually the one that's the most painful to me. Like, okay, I want two terabytes of exc Sorry, excuse me.
66:13
Another $400. >> Storage is so ridiculous right now.
66:17
>> Um, that's rough. I want to go to a Ryzen Max 395. Oh. Oh, that'll be Sorry.
66:23
That'll be $2,800, sir. Also, oh, okay. You also get I mean, honest. Oh, wow.
66:28
Okay. Well, I would take I would certainly take the 64 gigs of RAM, 2 TB
66:33
storage, and the better CPU over the uh
66:36
4 TB, 32, and then lower CPU because uh
66:40
these ones, it's not just the CPU that's that's worse for this one. It's also the
66:43
GPU. So, this is the more powerful GPU. So, yeah. Yeah, you're spending uh
66:48
$2,800 US >> for a handheld
66:52
>> and and it's barely handheld, dude. It
66:55
has like this like battery pack thing that weighs a flipping ton that clips
67:00
onto the back of it or how I usually ended up using it was with the weird
67:04
tether. Yeah, the te especially the tether. If you're like commuting on a
67:08
train or something with a lot of your time, which I suspect a lot of handheld
67:12
bros are >> commuting on trains or buses or
67:15
whatever, I could see that being fine to be honest. >> Yeah. So, here's the tether. It's
67:21
>> Oh, >> it's pretty >> That's weirder than I expected to be.
67:24
>> Because it's just the battery. >> It looks like it was for like a platform
67:28
or something. Am I seeing that wrong in the picture? So, this is the clip
67:31
interface here that sticks onto
67:34
the battery interface that is on the back of this battery and is on the back
67:38
of the machine and then it just like goes to an umbilical cord to the back of
67:42
the thing. So, it can be like this or it can be like this. And so, yeah, is there
67:46
something better than the Steam Deck? Like, yeah, there's lots of things that are better than the Steam Deck in some
67:50
way, but there is, in my opinion, nothing
67:55
that is better than the Steam Deck in every way.
68:00
And that's that's tough. That makes it tough for me to recommend something. And
68:05
it without like knowing you and knowing exactly what you're after. And I can see
68:10
why it makes it tough for Valve to go, "Okay, here's Steam Deck 2."
68:16
>> Yeah. and especially now amidst the apocalypse.
68:19
>> Yeah, I don't blame Valve for waiting at all. I think it makes sense. I think it makes sense.
68:22
>> Um >> I think my time I I'm like I've already
68:26
kind of convinced myself I'm going to buy a Steam Deck 2 when they get
68:30
announced like right off the hop. Um
68:35
>> I I feel like it's too late to get one now. Yet out of all of them, that's the
68:40
one that I want right now, if that makes sense. So I have I have my Switch 2. I'm
68:45
just going to hang on to that. I was contemplating selling it, but no, I'm
68:48
just going to hang on to that. And then uh when the when the Steam Deck 2
68:52
finally comes out, I'm assuming it's going to be another like two years. Um
68:58
hopefully not much more than that. >> I think two years sounds about right.
69:01
>> Yeah, >> cuz by then we'll be like well into Steam Machine and Steam Frame life
69:06
cycle. So, they'll have had some time because realistically,
69:10
ain't no way that the Steam Machine,
69:13
Steam Frame team is not pivoting to
69:16
Steam Deck 2 once they're done. So, give them a year to get everything kind of
69:22
going with those. >> Yeah. >> And then there's no way that they don't
69:25
get some resources for Steam Deck 2 and then make that happen. >> Oh, hi Josh posted, "Uh, do you play
69:30
games that are too much for Steam Deck? It might still be worth it." That is
69:35
a super interesting question that I've I've had some conversations with
69:39
actually some people in the Labs about of like >> that's a super fair point. If you want
69:42
to play Batro, >> if it's a Battro machine anyways,
69:46
>> do it >> then who cares? What does it matter? >> Um it could be a fun video for for you
69:51
guys to make is like the Steam Deck however many years later. 95% No, not
69:56
95, but like 85% of my hours on my Ally
69:59
or Steam Deck over the years are tape to tape.
70:03
>> I al I also Yeah, >> I could have played that on anything. >> Yeah. Another angle, and this was not my
70:08
idea. I don't remember who said it, but um maybe it was even you. I I have
70:12
genuinely no memory of who said this, but um
70:16
somehow get like the original or close to the original version of Steam OS on
70:21
it and compare the performance then to
70:25
now. I don't know if we benchmarked it at the time.
70:29
>> I don't really think so. Uh there'd be >> someone might have
70:32
>> there'd be so many variables. I think someone might have actually done this.
70:38
>> Oh, maybe. I don't know. Um, wasn't it NVIDIA only though? And like I think
70:43
maybe you could like hack in Radeon support. I I I don't remember the
70:46
details well enough. I'd have to they they should >> for the Steam Deck.
70:50
>> For the Steam No, no. I'm talking original Steam OS.
70:53
>> No, I'm not. >> Oh, you mean Steam OS 3, but like the
70:57
first version of Steam OS 3? >> I meant Yeah, the first version for the
71:01
Steam Deck. >> Got it. I thought you meant like >> I didn't say that. That's my bad. Sorry.
71:05
the one from like 14 years ago no or 10
71:08
years ago. That would be a little I I more mean like what performance changes
71:12
have hap like deep diving. >> What is it like to own a Steam Deck this
71:16
many years in? I think would be kind of fun. So like how much performance gain
71:20
have you had from updates or lack thereof? Who knows? Uh but I think it
71:23
would be gain. Um how is your like hey let's look at like
71:27
the the top 10 games that are compatible with Steam Deck in terms of players
71:32
right now. How well is it performing um
71:36
on the Steam Deck? Like, is this still a highly viable device for most people?
71:39
Stuff like that. I think it'd be kind of fun, a little interesting. >> I I think it's a cool idea. We have so
71:44
many video ideas on the doc. The >> issue is BIOS updates would be difficult to downgrade. Yeah, we'd have to try to
71:48
find like an unboxed one or something. It wouldn't be an easy thing to do.
71:53
>> Yeah. >> Uh but it could be kind of fun. I feel like that's the kind of thing that
71:57
Valve, if they weren't so flipping busy right now, might even be interested in
72:02
helping us with. >> Like, hey, could you guys we just can we
72:05
ship you a Steam Deck and can you please put it back in? Like, there's no way they don't have it somewhere.
72:10
>> My my expectation is that there's actually been some pretty massive jumps
72:13
in performance looking at like the things that have happened gaming ever
72:17
since the original launch. So, that could be like honestly a really good
72:21
>> thing for them to have. Something that'd
72:24
be a good thing for us to have is a more coherent strategy for how we're
72:29
transitioning to the WAN Show channel.
72:32
I think we may have to just
72:37
pull the plug on streaming WN show to LTT because right now it's causing a lot
72:42
of confusion for people. we go live and we have a separate VOD on the Linus Tech
72:47
Tips channel and on the WAN Show channel. And I got to say, I'm actually
72:50
surprised and impressed with how much of the community has flipped over to Wan
72:54
Show channel. It's almost >> it's not quite 50/50, but it's like
72:58
getting there a lot faster than I thought. So, W show Channel
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>> 5 uh views. >> That's views. Okay.
73:07
>> The live one is the far left one. >> Yep. Okay. >> Yeah. So, I think we we might just have
73:11
to like we might just have to do it sometime soon here. Um
73:16
>> I didn't foresee this, but it totally
73:19
makes sense. The second someone told me like, "Oh, there's there's two in my
73:23
feed. This sucks." I was like, "Oh, right." >> Yeah. I'm I'm really sorry. We we do
73:27
need to co stream for a little while. But guys, uh if you are watching on
73:31
Linus Tech Tips channel right now, please sooner rather than later, get
73:35
subscribed over on the WAN Show. So go go go look for the channel. It used to
73:40
be the LMG clips channel. We rebranded it. Go subscribe over on the WAN Show.
73:44
We got to get everybody moved over there sooner rather than later or you will not
73:48
see WAN Show anymore. And the reason for it is it's a business reason. Uh Luke
73:53
and I are now 50% co-owners of the WAN Show, which means it's got to get off of
73:57
the LT channel in order to secure its long-term future. Thank you, WAN Show,
74:02
for your service. Um, all right. Let's jump right into our next topic here,
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which is >> Oh, lord.
74:12
Should we do it? Let's talk about it.
74:16
AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X3D2
74:20
dual edition launch. If you were wondering how the chip performs, uh,
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it's virtually identical to a 9800 X3D
74:28
or 9950 X3D in gaming. It got a four to
74:31
5% improvement in productivity workloads, like kind of creator focused
74:34
stuff. And in some science workloads, it did even better than that. But for most
74:39
people, it doesn't really make sense unless you see it as maybe kind of like
74:43
a like a budget workstation CPU for
74:46
folks who can't afford the a Threadripper um and also don't need the PCIe
74:50
lanes and also don't need the, you know, insane memory bandwidth of Threadripper
74:54
and don't need the upgrade path to many many many more cores.
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don't need, you know, registered dims. They just can use ECCU dims. There's a
75:04
lot of compromises using it as a budget workstation. But there is an argument to
75:07
be made there. Of course, with such a um
75:14
sorry, excuse me, uh interesting launch. Naturally, the more um exciting
75:21
component of it in the community has been the discourse around AMD's sampling
75:28
strategy, which >> you can tell the CPU was not super
75:32
interesting. >> Well, can you because some reviewers
75:36
felt that they were uh left out. You
75:41
know what? I'm just going to read the thing. Um,
75:46
in our communications with AMD, we were told that they had limited units and
75:51
wanted to focus on developers before sending units to reviewers. That seems
75:56
to be that a message that did not quite
75:59
line up with their strategy because some very gaming focused channels like hardware unboxed were provided with
76:03
samples. This confusion has led some to assume that AMD was preferentially
76:08
seeding to friendly reviewers or even blacklisting certain publications. Uh
76:13
Tech PowerUp noted that even retail partners had received instructions specifically to not provide any units to
76:19
publications for review. Um sourcing review units from retailers is a pretty
76:23
common practice and has at times been approved by AMD uh in the past. Igor's
76:29
lab criticized how this sort of selective sampling hurts consumers because they don't have access to the
76:33
broad amount of data they usually would to make an informed decision. Um, one of
76:39
our fellow channels in the industry released a video stating they believe
76:43
they've been blacklisted by AMD. Uh,
76:46
this came from GN who said AMD excluded us not only from sampling but from
76:51
information about the announcement. Um
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they also noted that they have been moved to a third-party PR agency rather
76:59
than communicating with AMD directly. So
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as for our side uh we also are communicating with AMD through a third
77:07
party agency. The agency did get in touch uh and they did answer some
77:11
technical questions before launch. They were not timely about it and they did
77:15
not provide us with a chip. Um
77:18
I have been I have in my notes how we got our chip. that apparently fell off
77:23
the back of a truck just outside of Smash Champs, um our our affiliated
77:28
badminton club. So, that's really fortunate actually. Um and in summary,
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no, AMD did not blacklist anybody
77:39
because we didn't get a chip. Basically, this comes down to their sampling
77:43
strategy was different for >> sampling strategy was some reason >> weird.
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>> What it looks like to me is regional. So outside of the North America region,
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YouTubers seem to have gotten samples
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and then within the North America region, it looks like they went for more
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written media for reasons that are AMDs
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and AMDs alone. I have not seen any
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evidence that AMD is selectively seeding to publications that are more likely to
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be favorable. >> Big company problems to you. >> Oh, 100%. So, so one region's office had
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a strategy and it didn't necessarily match other regions.
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>> That's what it kind of looks like to me because obviously we are not blacklisted
78:26
by AMD. I mean, we partner with AMD on a very
78:30
>> regular basis. They literally buy $5,000
78:33
tech upgrades for, you know, our employees homes. Like, we're we're in
78:37
constant communication with AMD, but we were told, "Yeah, we're not we're not
78:42
seating this CPU to you." Um,
78:47
so I don't know, man. There other than just, hey, big companies do big company
78:53
things sometimes, I don't think there's there's too much to read into this one.
78:57
>> Seems like a weird move. I I'm not like crazy surprised just because I suspect
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they probably kind of knew how this news would go. Um, but in general, I would
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still, you know, I would still like to
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see all of the CPUs go to CPU reviewers.
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>> Yes. And I mean, but it's all, it's never even been a thing.
79:20
>> Like, think back to like how Intel has done their seating for a lot of their
79:23
like series launches where they sent like this chip and this chip and
79:27
sometimes it really seems like like self-owning. Like remember when they
79:30
launched Core Ultra on the desktop and they sent us like the the worst ones? I
79:35
sure do. >> And we're just like, "Hey, do you want to sell these or not?" Because these
79:39
ones are clearly the cool ones. And we literally can't put them on our
79:43
benchmark charts because y'all didn't seed them to us. >> That was super weird.
79:46
>> Like, man, I don't know, man. Big companies do big company like dumb stuff
79:51
all the time. And um
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maybe I'm just Maybe I'm just used to it.
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Maybe it it's this this does seem like
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I don't know. X3D specifically.
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>> Yeah. >> Has like a very
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alluring pull to the to the tech enthusiast crowd. I feel like not
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including it to video or written reviewers
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is a little bit odd. And again, I understand that this chip is also a
80:25
little bit odd. >> Yeah. >> So, like maybe it's fine, but just with
80:29
the naming it. Yeah. If I was AMD, I'll be honest with you, knowing what I know
80:33
about this chip, I might have seated it to like >> I might have just done it.
80:38
>> Wendle and Feronics and then just like not bothered outside of that. Yeah,
80:44
>> cuz I because I I I might be I might be interested in the perspective of someone
80:48
who's, you know, more attuned to the to the the enterprise space and then
80:53
someone who's like hyper attuned to like the Linux and and like scientific space
80:59
and then realistically, yeah, it's X3D
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and you're going to you're going to you're going to throw that in the
81:05
marketing because marketers got to market and they're going to want to sell it to gamers because that's how big
81:09
company do things. But in terms of like caring about gaming outlets making a
81:14
review of it, I'd probably have like zero zero cares.
81:19
>> Yeah. I mean, based on the benchmarking
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that happened, it's like Yeah, I would probably agree with you if
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they knew what was going on there. >> Yeah. And I mean, obviously a company
81:29
like AMD knows what their chip is before they release it, which actually I
81:33
shouldn't even say. Sometimes you do. Sometimes you really do have brands tell
81:38
you they're like, "Oh, hey, so do you love it?" and you're kind of like, "No,
81:42
it's slow and expensive." And they're like, "What?"
81:45
>> It's it's fascinating to me. That's just marketing
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PR teams being disconnected from technical.
81:54
>> It's got to be >> that's usually the the understanding for me cuz like you remember the whole uh
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backplate thing. Was it gigabyte? I think it was gigabyte. >> Gigabyte with that GPU
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>> and the and the the board was like, "How could you?" And then the technical people were like, "Yeah, we knew." Yeah,
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>> we didn't tell them that. They just put that in the marketing.
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>> Yeah. When they had like some kind of misleading marketing on their product
82:16
page. >> Yeah. They said their copper back plate cooled the GPU by 3°. And it turns out
82:22
that just having no back plate also cooled it by 3°. It was just their old
82:26
back plate warmed the card by 3° because
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it was so bad. Um, so it was it was
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Yeah. Anyways, whatever.
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>> You know what's not bad, though? LTT tools casually getting reviews on
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like PC Gamer. What the heck? This came out of nowhere for me.
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>> What? >> Right. >> PC Gamer. Do they have they reviewed any
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other tools? >> I don't know. LTD ratcheting screwdriver
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and precision pro multi-bit screwdriver review. Serious tools by Jacob Ridley
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published not on April 1st, but actually on April the 8th. So, this was pretty
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sweet. Yeah, this was a little while ago, but I just thought this was pretty
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cool. And it actually included an
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anecdote about an experience. I don't remember meeting Jacob, but uh
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apparently we've we've at least crossed paths at some point because um
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apparently this was this was his his
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expectation from me. I wasn't sure what
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to expect upon opening the YouTuber branded boxes. Having once upon a time
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been at the same booth at a show as Lionus, as he was loudly disagreeing
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with someone about quality control, I had a pretty good feeling about the
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quality of the screwdrivers before they arrived. That was a good assumption,
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too, as now they're in front of me. They feel sturdy and well put together.
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>> That's funny. That's pretty good. It was it's an interesting paragraph that
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really highlights I think why sometimes
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we do take what feels like a disproportionate amount of flak
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sometimes when we make a mistake because
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>> that's what we do is we we point out things that are not good enough and when
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our job is to point out things that are not good enough for a living then people
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expect us to do the same bloody thing internally and it's uh it's funny
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because sometimes it would be easy to think about
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something like that and go, you know, oh, that's that's too much
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pressure. I wouldn't want to work somewhere like that. But you know what's
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cool is I think our team actually embraces it
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in like a big way. Sorry, I'm not laughing at you. Um, yeah. No, I think
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so. I think they do. Sometimes our
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product development timelines are also really long, but this is probably part
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of why. Yeah, >> at least part of why. >> Oh, dude. Dude,
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dude, there's a product coming.
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>> The battery bank. >> No. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah.
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>> Say you you put it in a video. You don't have to be >> I tried the prototype.
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>> I have no idea what he's talking about. >> Yeah, you do.
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>> I do. >> It's the one.
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>> Really? >> Come on, man. >> Really? >> I tried the prototype. It [ __ ] slaps,
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dude. It's crazy. >> Oh, that one.
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>> Oh, yeah. >> You're that hyped about it, >> dude.
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>> Okay. >> It's nuts. >> Hell yeah. >> I want to quadruple the order. Like,
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dude, that really, dude, >> I don't even know what the quantity was.
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I want >> That's really exciting for me. Just cuz I I I I feel like I can't spoil it, but
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there's there's >> Oh, we can't say it. It's >> for the same reasons that he's really
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excited. I'm really excited. >> Have Did you try it? Did you try it?
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>> No, I >> No, no. I'm talking to him. I I don't know what he thinks.
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>> No comment. >> No, but did you try it? >> I don't know if I have one or not.
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>> No, you don't have one. You might be thinking of something else.
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>> There's only one. So, nobody has one except someone
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>> then. No. >> Okay. Okay. No, don't worry. Forget forget about Dan. Forget about Dan.
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>> I have not. >> We'll never forget about Dan. We love Dan, but just >> in this context.
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>> In this Yeah. For for now. For now.
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>> It's um >> Dude, >> I'm I'm very happy to hear that for a
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huge variety of reasons. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I'll leave it there.
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>> Anyway, the point is we have a really passionate team and we and we kind of we
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embrace those challenges. Anyway, >> the timeline for that is like
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>> it's tight. >> Yeah. >> It's going to be crazy. >> Yeah. >> Knock on wood. Knock on wood. Yeah.
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>> Um anyway, the PC gamer review. I I thought it was pretty fair. Um
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>> Cool. >> I think there were Yeah, I think there was like one thing that I I was like,
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"Oh, I think you might have kind of overlooked that, but it was like super
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super minor." Um and I thought they Yeah, I thought they did a pretty good
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job. They compared it to sort of, you know, obvious things like the iFixit
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Protect Toolkit. Um, anyway, thanks Jacob for taking the
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time. >> Sweet. >> Appreciate you.
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>> Uh, what do we want to talk about next? We're supposed to do another topic.
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>> It is not the cobbar hammer. And guys, that is a >> never happening.
87:05
>> That is a never happening situation. >> Oh yeah, never happening.
87:11
Uh, every SKH Highix employee could
87:17
I think that's a bold could, but could receive it might happen. Uh, could
87:21
receive $477,000 bonuses this year.
87:27
Almost 900,000 next year. Apparently 35,000
87:31
workers are set out to benefit from a share of
87:35
169 billion in projected operating
87:39
profit for the year. SK Hanx agreed last September to remove its previous bonus
87:43
caps. hilarious timing and allocate 10% of annual operating profit directly to
87:48
employees as performance bonuses with analysts forecasting around 250 trillion
87:54
one or 169 billion I'm assuming US
87:58
dollars in operating profit for 2026.
88:01
That works out to roughly the previously mentioned 477,000 per employee across
88:07
its 35,000 person workforce on top of
88:10
the $95,000 in profit sharing already paid out in February. If profits keep
88:16
climbing, bonuses could hit nearly $900,000 per person next year.
88:24
The AI boom The AI boom is driving all this. Demand for HBM memory chips used
88:29
in AI accelerators has sent memory prices through record highs and SKHENX
88:33
is the dominant supplier. The company's transparent bonus formula has become a
88:38
recruiting weapon against Samsung which is now facing its own crisis with over
88:43
so this is the thing that I thought we were originally talking about for some reason which I which is why I said
88:47
maybe. I guess the previous stuff is pretty locked in. The maybe stuff is is
88:51
is this. So sorry I I I had the wrong
88:54
reaction there. Samsung's union uh
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>> over 30,000 Samsung Union members are demanding a similar deal
89:03
>> with a strike a strike date set for May 21st. That's
89:08
crazy. A strike right now could seriously hurt earning potential. This
89:14
is this is very interesting to watch. Samsung's union is pushing for 15% of
89:19
operating profit, pointing out that their bonuses currently amount to less
89:23
than 30% of what uh comparable SKH
89:27
workers receive. Samsung management countered with 10% which the union
89:31
rejected. >> Dude, this is this is crazy to watch.
89:35
This is like this is some peak tier nut
89:38
>> negotiating. Like remember when we were talking about everything that was going
89:41
on with like SAG AFRA and and like and
89:44
in in Hollywood you know down south and I was talking about like kind of you
89:49
know bold strategy cotton let's see how it works out for them because they were
89:52
striking at a time when >> a lot of studios were actually pairing
89:57
back their productions and losing money on a lot of big tentpole projects and
90:02
like >> this is the hard opposite of that scenario.
90:06
>> This is the timing you want. Yeah, >> you're a specialized worker
90:11
in something that is absolutely
90:15
banging. >> There is a place making record profits
90:19
that could definitely hire you in uh
90:24
>> Yeah, they could could very easily definitely hire you and and I think they
90:27
are. >> Yeah. No, they've been apparently taking
90:30
advantage of this of this situation
90:34
right now because from an SKH heck standpoint,
90:38
>> I can see why why not because you're
90:41
going to allocate 10% of your annual operating profit. So what do you care as
90:47
like at the management level? >> A couple of pops. >> No, I just mean what do you care at the
90:51
management level if that 10% is allocated across another thousand
90:56
people? You don't you don't give a [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, >> right. Because no one's going to be
91:00
complaining because as long as the profits go up, their next bonus check will be bigger anyway.
91:04
>> It's going to be so freaking monstrous. >> So if they said that if they spread it
91:07
across more people, they could basically just bleed Samsung dry.
91:12
>> Yeah, that's wild. >> Wild.
91:18
It's this this is going to be this is
91:21
going to be an interesting one.
91:25
>> Yeah. Um, and you know to to your point
91:28
that I think you were getting into again SKH Heinix has nothing to lose here
91:32
because if the bonus quantity is derived from operating profit then when the bust
91:37
inevitably happens >> on the other end of this it just autoscales down.
91:41
>> It autoscales down >> because it's still 10% of annual
91:44
operating profit but if they're just not profiting as much then it just goes down. So like realistically
91:50
the employees are winning super hard when the company's winning super hard and then when the company isn't super
91:54
winning super hard it'll just it'll automatically kind of correct itself.
91:57
You don't have to have rough conversations with people about how
92:00
their wages are going to go down. It's just >> well we sold less RAM so
92:06
>> there you go. Dude it's it's crazy the kind of scale that these companies work
92:10
on. Yeah. Like the fact that they allocate only 10% of their annual
92:15
operating profit to to like performance
92:19
bonuses. That's like that's crazy. Like
92:22
ratio-wise, we are way above that for
92:27
overall like how much we allocate of our operating profit to to compensation. And
92:31
yet >> this isn't to compensation though. No, it is. It's just performance bonuses.
92:35
>> I know. Oh, but the performance bonuses are like the bulk of their comp now.
92:39
It's it like it's it's crazy. I was looking at the numbers. >> Oh yeah.
92:42
>> So like the fact that the fact that they have
92:47
>> relatively only that amount allocated to
92:51
employee compensation >> that's not true though. That's what I'm
92:54
saying. >> It's a little more basically is is what it amounts to. So like that and a little
92:59
more allocated and they're able to pay
93:03
out base salary plus $477,000
93:08
per employee. Like the amount of money
93:12
that memory manufacturing is making right now >> crazy
93:16
>> is flipping insane. >> Yeah. Yeah.
93:20
>> Flipping insane. >> And sorry that last number was slightly
93:25
wrong. It's actually over 500,000 because that 477,000 was on top of
93:30
95,000 already. Like
93:36
it's the these wafers, right? If you if
93:40
you got the bad license to print money, Luke. >> Yeah. Imagine getting a like you're
93:44
you're just out of school and you get a job at one of these companies right now.
93:50
>> That's it. I'm moving to Seoul. >> See you later.
93:54
>> Hey guys, I can do something. I swear. >> Yeah, I I I could I could I could do PR.
94:00
I could do PR for SKHEX. I could be I could be their video guy.
94:04
>> Uh oh, okay. Sure. >> Yeah. >> I don't know about PR.
94:09
>> Yeah. No, >> you could do media.
94:13
>> We could change our company. Hey. Hey, we could do what that shoe company did.
94:17
We raise a bunch of money and we do uh we do uh Rod's idea, Linus Memory Group.
94:22
>> There you go. >> Yeah. >> There you go. >> We'll we'll build a fab. Just give me a small loan of a billion dollars and then
94:27
we'll we'll we'll go we'll build a memory fab. We got this. >> Well, isn't their whole thing? They're
94:31
not even building the fab. They're just like acquiring the hardware for you. So,
94:34
if you're building a fab and you need a bunch of GPUs, they will like get it for
94:37
you. >> The shoe company. >> Yeah, I think that was >> I think I think they're building I think
94:41
they want to build data centers and then like just lease access to them like
94:44
everyone in the Have they Have they crashed yet? Is that over?
94:49
>> Who knows? >> Was it? >> Hold on. Birds.
94:53
>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Okay.
94:56
>> So, here was the thing. NO.
95:01
>> SO, YEAH, they spiked to uh $17 and
95:04
they're all the way down to seven now. Um, that's going to keep going. That
95:08
this is not financial advice, but that's
95:12
going to that's going to keep going in that direction in case anyone was wondering.
95:16
>> So, there's like one stock that makes any amount of sense on the stock market.
95:21
Yeah, I'm going for that's going to be the one that actually performs according
95:26
to its its basic fundamentals. >> I believe you.
95:30
>> Not financial advice. Not financial advice. >> Financial advice. Thank you very much,
95:34
>> Dan. Don't think I don't see what you type in chat.
95:37
>> What? Apart from a bull >> goes, Lionus is a bear confirmed.
95:40
>> Well, you're you're saying that it's going down. >> Yeah. Don't think I don't know what that
95:43
means, though. >> Just because I use a double undonder
95:47
doesn't mean that it's not true financially.
95:51
Not not financial advice. Not employment
95:54
advice either. Call your boss a bear.
96:00
>> You're too skinny.
96:06
>> Dude, I weigh now. >> God. >> No. I definitely don't have the hair,
96:10
>> but I I I like weigh a lot now. I'm 174
96:14
lbs now. >> Take creatine way more. >> Take more. I don't want to weigh more
96:18
than this. >> Way more. >> Way more. >> No. Oh, I don't want to way more than
96:21
this. >> Mass maxing Lionus. >> No, I don't. We don't need that.
96:26
>> Thighs as thick as anything. >> Yeah. >> Tree trunk.
96:30
>> Thighs bigger than her or not. >> Bigger than Taylor Swift.
96:33
>> No, I don't think of >> you want to win this or No, >> I don't. It's not a competition.
96:37
>> Honestly, I Twitter. It's not a competition. Twitter energy.
96:41
>> Lionus watermelon crushing tips. Yeah,
96:45
>> that should be next year's April Fools as you relaunch the only fans and it's
96:49
just videos of you crushing watermelons >> leggings for men.
96:56
>> Leggings that have like padded >> they're like 5 foot areas.
97:00
>> They they're like for normal people like they would not fit around the waist.
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>> We'd have to create like a low friction space age material between the thighs so
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that they don't wear out from all the like >> That's what Yeah. Yeah. All right, I'm
97:13
into it. Oh, I thought you meant padding. Just so that when you're crushing watermelons, like you know,
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it's it doesn't hurt. You know, it wouldn't hurt. Oh, sorry. I Okay, we
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were I understand what you're saying now. We were not talking about the same thing. >> Yeah. You know, on like elementary
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school, you had those planners with the cover that went like when you ran your
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nails over it. Put one of those on in the inside of each thigh so that when
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you walk it's like >> Dude, that would be the like most ' 90s
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parachute pants like put little 3Ds on them too. Just your
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face going back and forth. That'd be great. >> Write that down. Write that down.
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>> No, we're not writing any of this. >> You won't gain that much though. And then in in a lot of cases, you you lose
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it afterwards. >> All right. >> You should take it anyways. >> All right. All right. You should take
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it. >> You'll do better at Babmon. >> Might also help your brain.
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>> Not medical advice. >> What are you saying? >> Not medical advice. >> Yeah,
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All right, Luke, you want to pick one? >> Sure. Uh,
100:24
let's see here. >> Pick the rap. Pick the rap. >> Oh, yeah, sure. Uh, LTT rap. A month
100:30
ago, we posted a video about Tik Tok hacks, and one of the hacks was uh that
100:35
we looked at was from user rap tech 269
100:39
nice 4, uh, who made a rap about how to use, uh, utilman to, uh, log into a
100:47
locked Windows user account. Well, he's back and this time he has one about our
100:51
merch. >> Okay. I'm not gonna play the whole thing just because like I want you guys to
100:55
watch the whole thing. >> Y >> So, I'm only going to play a little bit
100:59
of it. Have you seen this? >> No, I haven't. >> Oh, but I'm giving them a view right now
101:04
anyways. >> Oh my god. Okay, here we go. You ready?
101:07
>> Yeah. See if this works. >> Yes. >> Tech PCs. You know what? I love the
101:11
style. Guilty of too much charisma. >> Hey, L said I got too much charisma on
101:17
site. So he sent me all the gear. Now we going to do it right.
101:22
Build another level. No stripping, no slipping. Every bit.
101:36
>> Is that amazing or what? It's up on YouTube shorts. Yeah, no keys posting it
101:40
in the chat. Like how?
101:44
Luke, do you think even with his help I could
101:48
ever be cool?
101:53
>> What? Dan, say it. >> Somebody posted something funny in chat
101:56
is >> sure they did. >> He might have enough aura that while you
102:02
were with him and with his help,
102:05
>> you might be able to pull it off. But I feel like once he's removed from the
102:09
scenario, you are yet again not cool. Even if he received your help,
102:12
>> so basically I'm received his help. >> With training, I could be posy grade
102:16
cool. >> I think so. >> Okay. >> I think so.
102:21
>> Well, that's fine. I'm just glad that he likes the product. And um I I am I I am
102:29
My life is richer for having watched this video earlier today.
102:35
You guys got You guys got to hear the rest of it. It It doesn't go downhill
102:40
from there. That's That's what I'll say. Uh go go go check it out. Raptech 2694.
102:48
>> Speaking of hopefully not going downhill, Apple names new chief
102:51
executive to replace Tim Cook. >> Apple has announced that Tim Cook will
102:55
step down as CEO on September 1st, 2026.
102:58
and John Turnis, the company's senior
103:01
vice president of hardware engineering since 2021, will be taking over. Cook
103:05
will move to executive chairman. The transition was unanimously approved by
103:10
the board and follows that uh what Apple describes as a long-term succession
103:16
plan. Uh Turnis has been at Apple since 2001, working under both Steve Jobs and
103:22
Cook. He's been the guy behind the hardware side of iPad, AirPods, and
103:27
recent iPhones. Uh, and has taken on an
103:30
increasingly visible role at Apple events in recent years. At 50, he's
103:36
roughly the same age Cook was when he took over in 2021 and roughly onetenth
103:42
of the age of an average world leader. Uh, under Cook's 15-year run, Apple went
103:46
from a $350 billion company to a $4 trillion one. Launched Apple Watch,
103:52
AirPods, Apple Silicon Vision Pro, and built out the services business. The
103:57
biggest challenge waiting for Turnis is widely seen as fixing Apple's struggling
104:01
AI strategy. Uh, which is lag behind competitors.
104:07
>> Interesting. >> I don't agree with that at all. Yeah,
104:10
>> they're going to be fine. I think they're actually probably doing like the
104:14
smartest move in the room, but we'll see how it goes. I I know a bunch of people
104:19
have been saying like, "Oh, oh, but if it like if if someone figures it out,
104:22
they're going to be so far behind." And it's like, >> I don't even think so. With with the
104:26
rate at which models are being open sourced and honestly Apple's hardware is
104:32
for running that >> that too. And the rate at which people
104:35
seem to be very happy to just jump companies constantly, like the the uh
104:41
the the relationship with AI companies and their employees is very very
104:45
tenuous. They're just kind of bouncing around all over the place. If Apple wants to turn it on, I think they
104:50
absolutely can right now. Um and I don't
104:54
think they will right now, and I don't think they should right now. I think
104:57
they are wisely waiting out this insane
105:00
storm of spending, keeping their insane amounts of cash that they have um
105:06
instead of just blowing it all and then when the timing is right, maybe they'll
105:10
step in or maybe they'll have a different solution. Who knows? Maybe they'll get paid money to to use someone
105:16
else's model as like an advertising thing. >> Kind of like when they lost the, you
105:20
know, search engine war or browser war or whatever. Like
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>> Yeah. like maybe they'll find some way to make it work out in their favor
105:27
anyways. >> That does tend to be the Apple way. >> Yeah. >> Don't be first. Just be Apple.
105:33
>> Yeah. So I It doesn't feel like an error to me. It also like it would feel like
105:38
an error if Google wasn't doing it. >> Yeah. >> But it does not feel like an error that
105:43
Apple isn't doing it. >> Yeah. I with that. >> Yeah. Um, we actually, um, this was one
105:49
of those ones where, you know, how we've talked about needing to be more agile as
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a company in our in our video production. Uh, this is one that, um, I
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I sent, uh, this Okay, hold on. We're going to have to we're going to have to
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back up a little bit. Um, >> over on Flow Plane, I was reading
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through one of the reading through the comments on one of the exclusives that
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we did. So there's a video where uh we have this kind of series I guess now
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because I've done it a couple times where I interview uh other executives or
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other leaders here at the company and you know sort of have a business meeting
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on camera just like Luke and I do on WAN Show every week for you guys but with
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different people. And it was actually uh a commenter who was talking about how
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um >> oh I like this comment. I know what one you're talking about actually. You know,
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James and I talked about being kind of a big ship these days and and that being a
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real challenge for us because we've lost some of the agility that we had in the
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past. And Biohazard 4524 says to keep
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James' analogy of them being a big ship that turns slowly, um, what I think they
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would love is to be more like an aircraft carrier. Yes, the massive ship
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107:03
turns slowly, but you can launch fast craft and helicopters to go try that new
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thing to be a platform to make quick things doable without going under. And I
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actually immediately screenshotted this and posted this in the executive chat
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and basically went, >> "This is what we need to do. We can't
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stop being a bigger ship than YouTube channels that are literally one person
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or two people or even five people. We were more agile when when we were, you
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know, a dozen people. And that's just inherent. There's more
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>> makes sense. >> There's there's more people who need to know. Um there's more people who need to
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who need to, you know, approve things. It's >> I have had some conversations recently
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>> where we'll we'll talk about like, okay, we could do X, Y, or Z thing. And the
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response will be like, yeah, but then we're gonna have to do this and that and
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this and that and this and that. And I' I've been trying out a response of just
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like what if we just didn't.
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And it's it's kind of fun watching people's brain explode. >> And so, um, so basically I was like,
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okay, but we have to find a way to be
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more agile to get things done quickly
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and and circumvent the process when it's necessary. And uh this Tim Cook
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retirement announcement is actually something that we we went aircraft
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carrier mode on. So we we kept the ship
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108:26
going in the direction that it's going and a small team of one of the
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relatively new writers uh on the team. His name is Sean and he put together
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like sort of some key milestones from Cook's career and like kind of a draft
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of what a script might look like. And then I I sat on the plane on the way
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back from the event earlier this week and I banged out a script. We shot it
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108:50
the morning I got back in. It was edited today. It's I'm going to review it
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108:54
tonight and it goes up I think this weekend. Um and so we're we need to
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start doing a better job of that. And
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the only way to start doing a better job of it is to start doing a better job of
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it. Just [ __ ] do it. And so we're um
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we're putting it in action already. And uh just this was just such a great
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example. I don't remember how we got on this topic even, but this was such a great example of the importance of
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109:20
community feedback in what we're doing and how dialed in. It's not just me
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109:24
who's who's reading this stuff and who's engaging with you guys. Um it's it's
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lots of people here at the company who just care and just want to make a better
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product. Whether that product is a shirt or whether that product is a video or
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whether it's a streaming platform or whether it's Hey, why don't we
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transition into another topic here and let's have a look at some of the sick
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content that's been posted on ltdabs.com.
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>> Yes, >> check this out, dude. >> Yeah, >> Nick and Steven working on some pretty
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sick freaking content. This is I bought
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this is such an interesting question that when Intel announced this I was
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like oh yeah I wonder how much this helps. I wish someone would like look
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into that. And then little did I know >> and you didn't ask us.
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>> Little did I know somebody was doing it and that somebody was apparently me.
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Thank you Labs team. Um, so the the long
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and short of it is that Intel has some some tools that can that can help their
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especially their new Core Ultra um 200
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series processors perform apparently
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quite a bit better. And so there's there's actually a few different optimizations. Intel Extreme Tuning
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Utility, RXTU, Intel Application Optimizer, and then the new Intel binary
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optimization tool or IBOT. And pretty
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much you um go in here, you tweak all
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your stuff, they show you like how to enable it, and then boom, here is the
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improvement in performance that you can get with a 200 S series processor. So
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these are the the newer ones um with boost off and with boost on. Uh what
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exact chip did we use in the test bench? Uh test bench, where is it?
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>> Yeah, I can't remember off the top of my head either. uh changes the PL1
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profiles. Which chip is it? Okay. Well, this is something we might have uh
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overlooked a little bit. Oh, no, no, no. Here it is. Here it is. So, with the 285K Oh, no. Sorry. This is uh not the
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new Plus one. So, this is the older um
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285K, which gets a pretty substantial
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boost actually across a pretty wide variety of games. Anywhere from like 2
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1/2% to over 4%.
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And that's in 1% lows. So that's pretty
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cool. And then with the new plus, the new 270K Plus, we actually got way less.
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>> Yeah, >> that is pretty fascinating. So yeah,
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guys, go check out that article. And and that's just one of the uh of the cool
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things that went up this week. All right. Did this Did the CMF 2026 one go
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up? Not this week. >> Is >> Oh, they must have just I must have just
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112:08
come across it. No, no, that was that one was two weeks ago.
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112:11
>> Oh, I thought you were talking about the uh the phone brightness one. No, no, no.
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That one we talked about last week, but this one this one uh slipped my notice.
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So, this is talking about like color on Apple's new displays. Really, really,
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112:22
really cool article as well. I didn't see it until this week. So, I'm I'm
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112:26
getting to the point, man, where I just like and like like chilling and waiting
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112:30
for LT Labs to release a new article and I'm like you're that you've been
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releasing them without
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>> No one will ever go to the damn website by itself. That's >> No, they will. They will. Be optimistic,
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Luke. Hey, hey, you got to have >> We still Okay, we still I have to I have
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to point this out. You have to understand we still have people asking
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us like, "When are you guys going to have an RSS feed?" It's It's right here.
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It's It's right here. It's also It's
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also It's also right here.
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It's also just Hold on just in case. Just in case. Hold on. I got to go to
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the bottom. It's It's also right here.
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And if you click on here, it's everywhere. It's I we can't we can't put
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it in more play. We get people go out of
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their way to email us asking when we're
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going to have these things and they're
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Please use them. >> Yeah. Yeah, use them. It's good. It's good stuff.
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>> Come on. >> Heck yeah. Way to go, LTT Labs. Love to
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113:36
see it. All right, what else we got? Oh,
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this is cool. Uh I I actually
113:44
man I'm on the fence now because I knew you'd be excited about that whole
113:47
bringing bringing uh cutting edge models
113:51
on prem uh with like the Gemini hardware
113:54
appliance. Um but I can also see why you
113:57
picked this one for one of your headlines. YouTube is opening up its AI
114:02
powered likeness detection tool to all of Hollywood. Actors, musicians,
114:06
athletes, and the talent agencies and management companies that represent them
114:11
will be able to use this tool that works kind of like content ID except for faces
114:17
scanning the platform for AI generated deep fakes of enrolled individuals and
114:21
then letting them review and request removal. It is free, optin, and works
114:26
even if the person doesn't have a YouTube channel. The tool's been in a
114:30
phased roll out since actually late 2024, starting with CAA clients and then
114:35
expanding to about 5,000 creators last fall, then to politicians and
114:38
journalists in March. The entertainment industry is the biggest expansion yet
114:42
with CAA, UTA, WME, and uh untitled
114:46
management already on board. YouTube says that enrollment data is only used
114:50
for detection and is not used to train Google's AI models. Flag videos are
114:56
reviewed individually and content that falls under parody, satire or commentary
115:00
may stay up. The expansion comes after sor after the Sora launch last fall
115:04
flooded the internet with deep fakes of celebrities and dead public figures
115:08
making the need for this kind of tool kind of hard to argue against.
115:12
>> It's cool that YouTube's doing it. That's that's sweet. And for free.
115:16
That's awesome. >> YouTube is not perfect. I call them out
115:20
in public and in private on a pretty
115:23
regular basis. However, however, however,
115:29
let's look at all the other large video
115:33
platforms. >> This is I I know I've said it on W show before, but this is what I keep going
115:37
back to. >> Tik Tok meta,
115:40
dude. Relatively speaking,
115:44
>> they're awesome. They've >> for a company to be on top as well for
115:49
as long as not not only around but as
115:53
big and on top for as long as they have
115:56
been. I am very surprised they don't
116:00
seem way worse and way more corrupt than
116:03
they are. Think about how Think about
116:07
how often big tech changes the deal. Pray I don't
116:13
alter it any further. Yeah. >> And with users, with users, I think
116:17
there's there's a pretty strong argument to be made that they they have changed
116:21
the deal in pretty substantial ways.
116:24
>> Some of those changes, in my opinion, uh come with the reality of just not being
116:28
like VC funded anymore and needing to run a profitable business model. I can't
116:33
I can't blame them for that. You got you got to eat. Um, but in terms of the way
116:39
that they've engaged with the creators on their platform, the ones who give it
116:43
the value, the way that they have consistently stuck with that profit
116:47
share model is nuts.
116:51
>> Yeah. literally even seeing even seeing
116:55
how the model works whether we're talking Vine whether we're talking Tik
116:59
Tok or Meta no matter who it is even
117:03
seeing that obvious playbook that has worked so well uh YouTube calls it they
117:08
call it a flywheel right the flywheel spins creators create amazing content
117:13
which benefits YouTube which makes money which goes to creators who spend it on
117:16
content who make better content that flywheel that YouTube relies on to
117:20
continue elevating the level of content on it and attracting creators to it.
117:27
It's in public. It's plain for everyone to see and nobody else
117:33
can just they can't do it. They can't
117:36
take out their wallet and just share the revenue. kind of funny because by by by
117:43
many accounts it's like actually cheaper and easier than doing something like
117:48
Netflix where you have to make the content yourself. Uh but just no one
117:52
else will do it. But I I I I still maintain like YouTube is really cool
117:58
considering what it could be and there's some stuff that sucks. I'm still salty
118:02
about the dislike button and and shorts have been very frustrating for me.
118:07
Although I do have an interesting update. I heard on the open source
118:10
creator Discord a few people got access to the app update and it does what we
118:17
were hoping it would do. When you set your shorts limit to 0 minutes, it
118:22
removes shorts entirely from your like
118:25
main page, but if you go to a creator, you can still find the shorts. And that
118:29
that is completely fine in my mind. Um,
118:33
I still don't like that if you do manually go find some shorts, uh, it's
118:37
incredibly easy to bypass your zero
118:40
minute limit. Um, but the fact that it
118:44
kind of removes it from there is cool. And no, >> I got it.
118:47
>> The Oh, nice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let's check it out. >> Uh, okay. So, I have it now. Short speed
118:52
limit 0 minutes. >> So, I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to
118:57
close the app. >> Yeah. And then I'm going to I'll I'll
119:01
log into uh I'll log into my account. Actually, no. I'll I'll stay on the LT
119:05
account. I guess >> I saw shorts. >> Okay. Shorts.
119:09
>> Yeah, I see shorts immediately. >> No, they're gone. >> They're they're gone.
119:12
>> Wait, scroll down. >> No, that's play play. Oh, wait. YouTube playables. Oh, for crying out loud. Can
119:17
I get rid of these? Not interested. Okay.
119:25
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No shorts. >> Holy bananas.
119:28
>> Sweet. Top news.
119:33
Holy bananas, dude.
119:37
That's crazy. >> No shorts. >> Also, this is a this is a quality
119:41
recommendation. >> You're going to get uh
119:52
>> How is that? How is that in my recommendations right now?
119:55
>> Fantastic. Um, >> those Yeah,
119:59
>> that's a that's a throwback. >> Was that the work account?
120:02
>> Uh, >> someone's looking up the the dash boot beer song.
120:05
>> Amazing. Amazing. vat9.com.
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Uh, >> is VT9 still around? >> I have no idea.
120:15
Now I want to know. >> Yes.
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>> All right, let's let's see what's on bat 19. Oh, okay. >> It feels like the same stuff, though.
120:24
This is literally like I I think they made the video about this 5B gummy bear
120:29
over 10 years ago. >> Yeah. Honestly, I saw the gummy bear and
120:33
then I saw the micromagnets and I was like nothing has changed,
120:37
>> dude. I mean, look,
120:40
>> why would you >> hold on a second? Hold on. Get Get out of here. Look listen listen, sir. I
120:45
ain't a mathematician, but let me tell you let me tell you this. Times
120:52
>> How much is it? $579.
120:56
>> 57. Woo! In gummy bears, dude. Let's go.
121:00
>> $5.7 million of gummy. We're in the
121:03
wrong business, sir. >> You should be making gummy bears. Make some creatine gummy bears. Do it that
121:09
way. >> That is That is wild.
121:14
It's interesting that they they put like a like a purchase counter on it. Seems
121:19
like every product. It's not It's not just key ones.
121:23
Rubber chicken pen. That seems like dancing. Okay. Well, yeah, that's that's
121:31
definitely a site that still exists. The superersized playground ball with
121:36
unmatched durability. >> No discount on this one.
121:40
>> It can handle a little Oh, this is new. This is in their their new uh tab.
121:45
>> I see. >> Okay.
121:49
catching a ball with the world's largest glove.
121:53
All right, man. Internet, you have really you've really gotten to be a
121:58
thing, haven't you? >> Uh, let's go
122:03
talk about let's talk about who Dims
122:06
Him. >> Have you seen this? >> Yep. >> I'm not quite sure if this qualifies as
122:10
good news, but it's certainly >> it's news. >> Fascinating news.
122:14
>> It might be good for like I don't know. No, I don't think it's I I I don't
122:18
>> I think it could be. >> I think it's just dumb. >> Super cost effective computers where you
122:23
just need something. >> I guess >> you need a RAM stick in the computer so
122:27
it can turn on. >> Intel, ASRock, and Team Group have
122:32
unveiled who DIM half unbuffered DIM, a
122:36
new DDR5 spec that uses one 32-bit sub
122:39
channel rather than the usual two. Um,
122:42
fewer memory chips per stick means that it can be cheaper to produce as long as
122:48
you don't need the extra capacity anyway. Uh, with that said, early
122:53
benchmarks confirm the trade-off is pretty brutal. You get a little over 50%
122:58
as much bandwidth across the board, which makes sense because if you had, uh, a single 32-bit sub channel instead
123:03
of two 32-bit sub channels, then you would have half as many 32-bit sub
123:07
channels. Um then in order to get the
123:11
performance that you might expect from DDR5, you would actually need two HUD
123:16
dims in dual channel and that would be the same as like one conventional uh
123:20
DDR5 stick. The whole thing exists because of the DDR5 shortage that has
123:26
been driving prices through the roof. It's aimed at entry-le desktops and
123:29
office machines that don't need peak memory performance. But hear me out,
123:33
DDR4 for those. Okay, that doesn't help office machines. and like, oh man, it
123:37
just feels like a lot of manufactured e-waste. Um,
123:41
one interesting thing though is that you can apparently start with a HUDM today
123:46
and then add a regular DDR5 stick for an
123:49
asymmetric setup. So, we've seen asymmetric memory before. I remember
123:55
back um AMD socket A. So, this will be
123:59
this will be a a deep cut. Did I use it right?
124:02
>> Socket A. Yes. >> Had three sticks. had three memory
124:06
sticks. And the way that it worked was even though it did support dual channel,
124:11
you had two or three memory sticks, three slots. So you would install two
124:15
sticks in dual channel and then you could install a third memory stick in
124:19
the last slot that would operate in single channel mode. And the idea behind
124:23
it was that you'd use the dual channel memory that was running in dual channel
124:27
faster speed until you had too much in memory and then it would overflow into
124:31
the single channel one that was slower. Um, NVIDIA also famously pulled this a
124:37
similar move on the um, GTX 970 which
124:41
had 3 and a half gigs of RAM at full speed and then it had the other half a
124:45
gig of RAM at a lower speed due to the way that the uh, memory bus was
124:50
configured. Um,
124:55
it wasn't that big of a deal in either of those cases. It worked pretty good, but
124:58
>> I don't think this will be a huge deal either. I still think hudims are maybe
125:01
just like not maybe amazing. Um >> I don't think they're cool. Maybe it'll
125:07
help again office computer situations,
125:10
but
125:13
yeah. Neat.
125:18
>> Hopefully they're relatively cheaper enough that it'll be helpful.
125:22
>> The thing I actually found most interesting about it was how uh they
125:26
apparently tested it. So, um, let's see.
125:30
Let me see if I can find a picture. Uh, Tom's Hardware doesn't have a picture of
125:34
it. So, let me have a look. Maybe, uh, Tech PowerUp also has an article.
125:39
Do they have a picture? Show me the picture. I don't know. I saw a picture
125:43
of how they tested it somewhere. And basically, they just took a regular not
125:46
who and put some Capton tape or some like packing tape over the contacts for
125:54
like the other 32-bit sub channel. I was like, "Oh, yeah. Okay. I guess that
125:57
would work as long as long as you have bio support for just activating the one
126:03
side. I was like, "Oh, okay. I would have never thought of it. What if I just
126:07
taped over half of the half of the the fingers on my memory stick before I put
126:12
it in?" Yeah. No, I wouldn't I I I would not I would not think of that. It
126:17
wouldn't occur to me. Um,
126:21
no, we'll do that after. The EU
126:24
is starting February 2027
126:27
going to require batteries and portable devices to be, and this is a quote,
126:31
readily removable and replaceable. Huzzah. And this is key, that has to be
126:37
by end users using commercially available tools. No proprietary screws,
126:41
no heat guns, no solvents. Replaceable batteries must also stay available for
126:46
at least 5 years after a product leaves the market.
126:50
>> This is super interesting. This is super cool. But there is a notable exception.
126:54
Devices that manage to hit IP67
126:57
waterproofing and that can maintain 80%
127:01
of their battery capacity after a thousand full charge cycles are exempt.
127:05
Apple already meets this threshold on every iPhone since the 15, and most
127:09
flagship Android phones likely do as well. Meaning that the phones that many
127:14
enthusiasts actually care about um may
127:17
not be impacted by this. And many of the
127:21
phones that people may not find to be worthwhile to bother repairing because
127:25
of the costs involved in, you know, upgrading or repairing a device um
127:31
may be the only ones that are actually impacted. Some outlets though are
127:35
reporting that this could still push manufacturers toward easier battery
127:38
access across the board since budget and mid-range devices that don't hit the
127:42
exemption thresholds would need to comply. But the regulation may end up
127:47
changing very little about how flagship phones are built.
127:53
Our discussion question is, if every flagship phone qualifies for the
127:56
exemption, does this regulation actually change anything or did the EU just write
128:01
a right to repair rule with a loophole big enough to drive a phone through it?
128:06
um given that not everybody buys flagship phones, which seems to be kind
128:10
of a a carrier subsidy sort of market um
128:14
assumption that everybody just like has a flagship phone. It just might be a few
128:18
years old or it might be a current one. Um no, I I think this could actually
128:22
make a substantial difference because those those more uh valueoriented
128:27
mid-range phones where either they didn't pay for the IP certification or
128:32
they um are not built for it. could end up being
128:36
built in a way that makes the batteries easier to replace, which is never a bad
128:40
thing. I do worry a little bit that again, the devices most impacted by this
128:45
might be the ones that also aren't getting software updates after that
128:48
time. >> Yeah. >> And therefore might have security concerns around using them, but I
128:55
consider this still progress. Um,
128:58
>> I was going to say steps >> and phones are just a small part of the
129:02
portable electronics picture. Like I got
129:05
I man I got super offended by my stupid old toothbrush that had a battery that
129:10
was clearly intentionally designed to be impossible to replace. Not impossible
129:15
but very difficult. I was just like this
129:18
is offensive because the only reason that this doesn't work anymore is
129:22
because you made sure it wouldn't. It sucked and I resolved never to buy a
129:26
toothbrush from that company again. I wonder how it how did they do that? Um,
129:30
basically just like the way that to when when it was closed up, the way that it
129:35
closes kind of like break it >> latches and things like conceal the
129:38
access cover and and I can understand a
129:42
little bit of that it might have been done like kind of maybe for water
129:45
resistance like it used a like a magnetic charger so it was like quite
129:48
sealed up but I I think they it seemed
129:52
intentional and when I looked up a guide it seemed even more intentional. I did
129:56
not like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Very upset. Yeah, I think it was Oral B. Fire Panda
130:01
Sasquatch says, "Uh, yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure it was Oral B. So, I will
130:04
never buy an OralB toothbrush again unless they fix their fix their biz."
130:09
Um, so yeah, I could see this making a much
130:13
bigger difference in spaces like other personal electronic devices, maybe not
130:18
as much in in phones. >> Speaking about fixing their biz, I don't
130:22
know if this is positive, may maybe it is. Uh Nintendo is getting tariff
130:27
refunds apparently. Uh but their customers should probably get those
130:31
considering they raised their prices. Two US gamers have filed a class action
130:35
lawsuit against Nintendo arguing that the company is about to double dip on
130:39
tariff costs. When Trump's tariffs hit last year, Nintendo raised prices on
130:44
Switch consoles, Switch 2 accessories, and controllers by $5 to $50 across the
130:50
board, explicitly citing tariffs as the reason. CEO uh Shantaro Furukawa uh told
130:56
investors in May 2025 that tariffs would be incorporated into the price. After
131:01
the Supreme Court ruled the tariffs unconstitutional in February, Nintendo
131:06
sued the US government to get its tariff payments back. And the government is now
131:10
processing roughly $166
131:14
billion in refunds to over three Oh,
131:18
this isn't just a Nintendo. Okay. well to over 330,000 importers. The
131:24
plaintiffs argue that since Nintendo already already passed the tariff costs
131:28
on to customers through price hikes, getting a government refund on top of
131:32
that means Nintendo collects the same money twice. Nintendo isn't the only
131:36
company facing this. FedEx, UPS, Costco,
131:39
and eyeglass importer Esler Lotica have all been hit with similar lawsuits.
131:44
FedEx actually promised to pass refunds back to customers and got sued anyways.
131:50
>> Go America. >> Hilarious. When asked back in March
131:53
whether it planned to share refunds with customers, Nintendo said they uh
131:57
Nintendo would only say, "We have nothing else to share on this topic,"
132:01
which is akin to saying nothing. Uh
132:04
discussion question. Nintendo passed the tariff cost to customers and is now
132:08
collecting a refund from the government. Should companies that raise prices be
132:11
required to pass refunds back? All right. Alon
132:15
asks, "Linus, if you get a tariff refund for ltstore.com sales, would you return
132:20
them to customers?" So,
132:23
>> did you raise prices for tariff stuff? >> For us, it was not black and white. We
132:28
did not simply increase our prices and
132:31
then adjust our new retail price
132:35
according to our new cost >> or walk to Mordor. >> Or walk to Mordor. you said one does not
132:41
one does not simply um and what I suspect is that for a lot
132:47
of other companies it probably wasn't that black and white either. So let me
132:53
let me explain you know what we did when
132:56
um a certain someone had a little fit about whatever and decided to go to
133:03
trade war with the whole world for some reason. Um
133:07
basically we went to our suppliers and
133:10
we said hey you know it could
133:14
significantly impact our volumes through you if you are not able to do anything
133:19
to help us help our customers weather
133:23
this storm. So some of it was absorbed
133:26
by our by the manufacturer and supplier
133:30
partners that we engage with uh both
133:33
onshore and overseas. All right. Some of it was absorbed by
133:39
our customers. We did raise prices on some items.
133:43
>> Okay. >> However, some of it was also absorbed by
133:47
us in multiple forms. So, for some
133:51
things, for example, you might have noticed that t-shirts are substantially
133:55
more expensive on LT store US compared to LTT Store global. That is not because
134:02
we are making more money on the US store. Uh back when this whole thing
134:06
first happened, uh I made the call for
134:11
us to in spite of the extremely high
134:14
tariffs on those t-shirts, basically eat
134:17
the margin on them. >> Yeah, cuz I I think that's the last I heard of it. We, as far as I know,
134:22
unless anything has changed, um, our
134:25
pricing for t-shirts on ltstore.com is
134:28
higher, but it is only higher
134:32
reflective of our increased costs. If,
134:35
uh, if I recall correctly, we are either not making money or barely making money
134:39
on t-shirts on the US site. Um, ever
134:43
since this whole thing went down, also
134:46
there were other costs that were incurred by us that were not directly
134:50
related to >> that's one I was going to bring up. >> Product cost. Uh, we spent an
134:56
inordinate, no, I'm not going to say spent. We wasted aing inordinate amount
135:03
of time and money dealing with [ __ ] that
135:06
was completely unnecessary. Uh, none of this had to be done. We literally had to
135:11
roll out a US warehouse in order to
135:14
soften the blow of these price increases, these import taxes
135:19
>> and store >> for our American customers. We had to
135:22
develop a split store that has a now a
135:25
global store and a US store. >> That also created more friction which
135:29
reduced sales. Um it also uh like
135:33
increasing your price because of tariffs will reduce your sales as well. there
135:38
was an impact on our sales volumes. So we took an impact to our profits. We
135:43
took an impact to our sales volumes. We took an impact to our overhead.
135:48
None of which is directly
135:52
um actually one only one of which is
135:55
easily sort of directly measurable. The rest of them it's hard to say exactly
135:59
how much of it was born by us versus borne by someone else.
136:02
>> That being said, I'd love to see consumer relief as well. Um,
136:06
>> yeah. And and I think we did we talk about this on WAN Show or what I was
136:10
saying is that there's it's very multifaceted in how this impacted
136:14
sellers, but I don't know if we did or not. >> Did we talk about this on WAN Show or
136:17
off WAN Show? Cuz I think I did talk to you about how how it Yeah, it does seem
136:22
kind of up that at the end of the day, you know,
136:25
>> just businesses are getting helped >> always rolls down a hill, right? And so
136:32
the end user the end user I mean I talked about this and it's it's so weird
136:36
because the math is just math right math math is math and so at the end of the
136:42
day if there's an increase in price somewhere in the supply chain at some
136:48
point the customer will pay for it because that's the only way that someone
136:52
has to pay for it and it's always going to be the customer. Um and it's it sucks
136:58
that ultimately the customer you know bore a lot of these costs but
137:04
and then right and then it's not the customer who is I mean I don't even see
137:08
how you would administer a program. >> I've been trying to think about that I >> where every customer would go back and
137:13
and what how what would they claim against? >> I don't think you could do it
137:16
accurately. I think you'd have to do it for like I think you'd have to ignore
137:22
H I think my way would be below a certain income threshold
137:27
you just get like a certain amount of tax break or something
137:33
have to do it below a certain income threshold. >> Yeah. I mean it's based on like direct
137:37
consumption. So how would you do that? >> Impossible to measure.
137:40
>> Yeah cuz >> I think it would just have to be the same amount for everybody.
137:43
>> Yeah. It's it's it's definitely very >> technically impossible to measure, but
137:47
like oh my god.
137:51
>> Yeah. >> So, in summary, I haven't seen how much
137:56
we're owed yet. Actually, I think that um I think that Tony said that sometime
138:00
either last week or early this week, he'd have measure. There you go.
138:04
>> He'd have a rough idea. I'm actually I'm going to I'm going to ping him now.
138:08
Um, any idea on what we are owed for
138:13
tariff stuff? Uh, yeah. Let me see if I can I'll see if I can find that out.
138:17
But, um, what I suspect is that it's
138:21
nowhere near what we spent reworking
138:26
like our company. >> There's no way because it's deal with this crap. >> It's Yeah, it's it's not measuring the
138:31
um the intangible stuff. all the insane meetings, the the massive amount of
138:37
opportunity cost, >> like the time that people like me and
138:41
Taran and other senior leaders at the company spent talking about this instead
138:47
of how do we make more videos or make more products or
138:51
>> um serve our serve our audience and serve our customers in ways that are
138:55
positive and constructive instead of just undoing completely unnecessary
139:00
negative impacts. is it it would be pretty tough for us to measure after the
139:04
fact to be honest with you. And so yeah, the bottom line is I really don't um
139:11
mannetic said the tariff income balances out to
139:15
about 450 US per resident.
139:19
>> 450. Was it that much? >> That's wild.
139:22
>> That's That's insane. I mean, yeah. I mean, it makes sense cuz
139:26
it was on so many imports. >> Yeah. Um, man, what a the you know,
139:35
this is going to this is going to come across like crazy,
139:39
but a small part of me actually wishes
139:43
that at least, you know, they had stayed in effect then.
139:49
At least then the whole thing would have been for something.
139:52
>> Oh, yeah. cuz now it's for nothing.
139:58
Basically, a whole bunch of global companies had their time wasted. A whole
140:03
bunch of consumers had their money wasted. And there's no extra money to
140:08
put theoretically into public services. There it's just the whole thing is just
140:12
and and now there's the additional overhead of having to administer this program and refunds.
140:16
>> Ultimately, what ended up happening >> for nothing. The US government made life
140:22
super hell for a lot of companies and is now going to have to pay them a ton of
140:26
money. >> I think there's interest in >> from consumers. >> I think there's interest.
140:30
>> And consumers are going to get hyper hosed cuz they're not going to get
140:33
jacked.
140:37
>> Like >> so government just shoveled money towards companies which is effectively
140:40
just shoveling money towards rich people. >> Yeah. But shoveled money towards
140:45
companies after after costing them a bunch of money. >> Yeah. So, not even like not even just
140:49
giving a hand out to the rich. You're like, "Hey, do a bunch of unnecessary
140:54
work and have a bunch of unnecessary expense." >> Yeah.
140:57
>> And then >> we'll pay you back with interest later.
141:01
Thanks. You're still going to be at a loss on this, but thanks.
141:04
>> I'm at a loss. >> Yeah. >> Um, hey, but we've got some good news
141:07
because it's good news. Wow. Apple has fixed a flaw that allowed the
141:12
FBI to access historical push notifications. >> Yeah, that news sucked. I didn't like
141:16
that. Oh, I'm sorry. >> I'm happy we're back to good news.
141:20
>> Which one? >> I don't know. >> Oh, the Nintendo getting tariff refunds. I mean, it's good news for Nintendo.
141:25
>> Yeah, technically. >> Um, in Apple's update notes for 26.4.2,
141:30
it includes a logging issue was addressed with improved data redaction
141:36
to resol to resolve an issue where notifications marked for deletion could
141:40
be unexpectedly retained on the device. Before the fix, cleared or deleted
141:45
notifications were sometimes stored in a notification database which had been
141:49
recoverable using forensic extraction tools. I believe it was Signal who
141:54
flagged this. And our discussion question is good job Apple because
141:58
apparently they got it taken care of relatively
142:03
uh quickly. So I think that's pretty cool. That's Apple putting their money
142:07
where their mouth is, putting their development efforts and towards
142:11
something that really benefits the privacy of their users. And I'm always going to support that.
142:17
Oh, I might have accidentally
142:20
uh minimized a couple of just like uh impromptu topics. I still have one of
142:26
them here. Um this is this is pretty good news.
142:32
>> Yeah. If there if there's another one, uh Hexos has gone v 1.0. Oh, nice.
142:36
>> Yeah. The remember the whole controversy when they first announced around uh
142:40
local dashboard access? >> Yeah. >> It is now live,
142:43
>> which is good. >> Which is good and should have always been a thing. But hey, look, uh John,
142:48
their CEO, is is one of the nicest, most
142:52
humble people that I've ever met. You know, when the community told him, "Hey,
142:55
you're wrong about this. Even though there are, you know, you've got all your technical reasons why it made sense to
143:00
do it the way you did it. This is really important to us. You're wrong." He said,
143:03
"Okay." by the time we go 1.0, we'll have it. He made the commitment. It's
143:09
done. Great. And you gota, you don't
143:12
have to, you know, you don't have to like the thought process. You don't have to like how long something takes, but
143:17
you got to you got to respect the follow through. So, uh, Hexos, for those of you
143:21
who are not familiar, is the NAS software that I invested in a while ago.
143:27
And, um, man, I was at Creator Summit
143:31
and, um,
143:35
three creators spontaneously came up to
143:38
me asking me about like what would be the ideal thing for keeping their data
143:43
safe, like 321. Um, one of them even
143:46
described the concept of buddy backup to me.
143:49
and asked if if there was something on the market that existed like that. And I
143:53
was like, >> it's coming. Buddy backup's not implemented yet. The local dashboard is
143:58
there, but buddy backup is still coming soon. Uh, and the idea behind it is that
144:02
Luke could I could give Luke a couple hard drives for him to put in his NAS.
144:06
He gives me a couple hard drives for me to put in my NAS, and then we're just
144:09
buddies and we just use a secure tunnel to store encrypted versions of essential
144:14
data on each other's NAS. We don't pay any subscription fee to any cloud
144:18
provider. It's just buddies backing up buddies. And I'm like, I'm so excited.
144:24
Just things Windows definitely could have solved.
144:27
>> I know. Okay. Why are you bringing things
144:31
negative now? You're sad about Windows. I get it.
144:35
>> You know what? >> Sorry. My bad. >> You know what? I get it. >> The last topic just threw me off, man.
144:40
>> No, no, no. We're not going to let the vibe be wrecked. Hey, that was the other
144:43
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All right, shoot. I forgot what it was.
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Balls, right, good news, Wan. Should we just continue it?
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>> Uh, yeah. >> Oh, okay. Well, that was a shorter
147:03
conversation than I expected. I when we were leading up to it and even maybe
147:08
after the first one a little bit, >> I I saw rumblings saw rumblings in the
147:14
chats and in the in the forums and Reddits and >> never watch again
147:17
>> out there in the comments. Um, you know, oh, I expect more, you know, 360°ree
147:23
coverage and and you know what, that's totally fair. That's totally fair.
147:26
>> I I think we can compromise it a little bit. I think particularly important
147:31
negative topics can be included. >> But in general,
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>> I think we should aim for general positivity. I um I think with the state
147:40
of the world right now, I think to a certain degree it is our duty to
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>> He said duty
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>> to and and I think this is true for like a lot of uh creators to try to,
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you know, do the song and dance be a
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place that doesn't have to be as dark as where a lot of other places are right
148:04
now. >> Sorry, what did you say?
148:08
I'm like super tired. I woke up at 3:00 in the morning. So, >> okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that that
148:12
was not coherent, but I I understand what you're saying. >> Was it actually not? It seemed fine to
148:15
me. Be a place that is not as dark as everyone else. >> You say something about other creators,
148:19
are they? Cuz I don't >> No, I'm saying it's it's the job OF US COLLECTIVELY.
148:23
>> OH, OKAY. Now I understand. >> Not necessarily genuinely everyone, but
148:26
like >> Okay, cool. That makes more sense. >> Okay. According to Tim, it was perfectly
148:30
coherent. It must be me. Sorry. I've been traveling a lot. also did. Yeah,
148:35
I'm genuinely wicked tired, so like >> Okay,
148:39
>> it makes sense to me if it was not super coherent. >> Luke said, "Let's get pizza." Yeah,
148:43
nice. Um, >> yeah. I I'm just I'm just I'm just after
148:48
the first couple, I started to see the the rumblings go away and the rumblings
148:53
started to go the other way and I felt the same way.
148:56
>> Also, dude, like we would finish Wanchcho and I'd like feel all right.
149:01
And a lot of the W shows over the last like while before we were doing this.
149:05
I'd finish W show and I'd just be kind of down. >> Yeah. Like not I was more than down
149:10
sometimes. I was like done. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah.
149:13
>> Like I even I even have a a character
149:16
for like when I can't anymore, you know? And that's like that's not a state you
149:20
want to reach every Friday. >> Hasn't been kicked off in a while. And I I think a big part too is like I think
149:25
this is universally true for all of us. We're all getting the negative news.
149:30
Yeah. >> I don't think they also need it here.
149:33
>> Yeah. >> Like I And again, if it is particularly
149:37
important, >> Yeah. >> or a particularly big deal for whatever
149:41
reason, sure, we can include it. >> But if it's like a Okay, you have to
149:45
pick one. >> If Lena Khan passed away, we would have to cover that. That would be bad news.
149:49
>> That would be bad news. That would be cataclysmic bad news. >> Yeah. Uh but if if you're trying to
149:54
compare like which one of these two topics should we include and they're
149:58
pretty similar in importance level but one of them is good news and one of them
150:01
is bad news, ditch the bad news one. >> Yeah. How about this? How about how
150:07
about >> if it's an important security thing or
150:10
something? We can still flag it. >> I'm going to say 90% ratio.
150:16
>> Yeah, I think that's reasonable to be honest. >> So you can pick. So we'll tell the like
150:20
the news team which and actually I'm usually the one who goes through and
150:23
picks the topics for the show but whatever. So but basically when you
150:26
bring the menu if you're bringing 20 topics only two to three of them
150:32
>> should be >> should be should be negative topics. So pick the ones that are important.
150:36
>> Stay the path set. Exactly. Algorithms make sure you get the bad news. And I
150:40
think that's kind of an interesting way of approaching it is we should try to be
150:43
the opposite. >> Yeah. And I'm so here for it. be a
150:47
positivity skewed algorithm of news. >> We've been live for
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almost 3 hours now and if I compare how I feel right now,
150:59
like how how how just tired and drained I feel right now cuz it's a little bit
151:03
like we've been, you know, we've been on for for 3 hours, right? It's a long
151:07
time. Um like I don't I don't actually envy like game streamers who are live
151:11
for like 10 hours a day. Like some of them like 12 hours a day. Those guys are
151:15
crazy. It's it's it's it can be draining. Um other than being awake for
151:20
so long at this point, I don't feel the like
151:23
social exhaustion I often feel from Wancho because it is such a like
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>> Yeah. I don't feel like that. >> That topic was heavy and gross. Time to
151:34
go into the next heavy and gross topic. >> Yeah. Ready to feel down again.
151:38
>> Yeah. Exactly. >> And is look, it's not like we don't know these things. We literally like have to
151:43
review them in order to, you know, get the topics together for the show. And
151:46
it's not like it's not like I didn't notice Google that your news feed
151:51
scrolls infinitely now and never says you're done. Okay. Well, unless you're
151:54
having like an issue with, you know, loading on your data or whatever, right?
151:58
Like I like I'm getting it all and I know you guys are getting it all.
152:02
>> I I want to move forward with Good News Wow. Maybe
152:06
>> maybe that's just it. Maybe the L show channel is is an oasis of of positivity
152:12
and optimism about technology amidst
152:15
just a sea of of diarrhea about
152:19
technology, you know.
152:22
>> Yeah, >> let's do it. >> Yeah. >> And now let's do some uh check out
152:26
messages. Dan, what do you >> I also I also think there there was a I
152:30
don't know if I addressed this on the show or not, but there was one of the
152:33
first Good News W shows. Someone pointed out that we like got off topic for a
152:36
second. We got really negative about something. I don't even remember what it
152:39
was. And we got kind of like called out for it on Reddit and I agree with them
152:47
cuz whatever it was we were talking about, I don't remember what it was, but
152:50
it just wasn't very important.
152:53
It didn't matter. And we still talked about it on a good
152:57
news show and I was like, you know, that was unnecessary.
153:03
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cool. If it's necessary, let's talk
153:06
about it. If it's not, let's keep it positive. I think that's cool.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Let's do it. >> Yeah.
153:20
Okay. Yeah, we've got quite a few today.
153:23
Luke, every site wants me to make a pass key these days. How is it possible that
153:28
pass key is more secure than a strong password? I have 2FA and still get asked
153:32
to make a pass key for those sites.
153:35
I wish I could answer this for you better. I honestly haven't done enough
153:39
research on pass keys because they're so infrequently available.
153:43
>> I feel like the pass key utopia that we
153:47
were promised >> it failed. >> Did not happen. And I'm I'm
153:51
>> Well, you can't say it failed. >> Well, it didn't happen. I didn't say it
153:54
failed. I said I said it hasn't happened. And this hybrid of like
153:59
sometimes using a password and sometimes a password and sometimes a 2FA token or
154:05
a notification on my phone is actually just worse than any one of those things.
154:10
And I I I I it is starting to get like
154:13
almost like like a like a like a like a
154:17
triggering thing when I need to log into something. Like I tried to I had to get
154:21
into the Labs building today and I'd been logged out of UniFi
154:24
>> and I was just like >> dude you got to get a fob.
154:28
>> It's the way to go. >> Well, see I carry the actual like master
154:32
key to the building. So it was only because I was going in the side door
154:35
that it mattered. So it's like whatever. >> Uh Sty 2002 said pass key is basically
154:41
asymmetric encryption. It's something you have takes the knowledge and
154:44
fishability completely out of the equation. This is where this is why I
154:48
haven't even bothered to look into it because no, it doesn't in my opinion.
154:53
>> And then why do I even need it? Because my phone is already a thing I have which
154:57
I already just biometrically authenticated for. So your pass key is
155:00
already redundant. Like I just >> The reason why I'm saying no, it doesn't
155:05
is because
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most services that I know of that have pass keys
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>> also allow you to just have like, oh, we'll we'll just text your phone, bro.
155:17
>> Yeah, >> you you want another option for signing? Yeah, we can just text your phone, dude.
155:22
>> Do you remember that time remember that time I showed you how many
155:25
authentication methods I had on one of my accounts
155:28
>> for Google or something? Yeah, it was like terrifying because they half of
155:32
them didn't even like work anymore, but they were they had just all been set up at some point.
155:36
>> Yeah. And then and then Sty said that's the implementation. It's horribly
155:40
implemented like horribly worst ever. Blah blah blah. And yeah, no, I totally
155:44
agree. I wasn't saying saying technically what you said was wrong. What I'm saying is that right now as
155:50
they are, they're kind of irrelevant in
155:53
my experience. Uh, I have autofill
155:57
already, so they don't really make it so that I log in any faster. They It's also
156:02
not doing biometric stuff like you're talking about. So, it doesn't really
156:05
skip a step on mobile either.
156:09
So, it just like I don't know. And then you can just bypass it by using a
156:14
different method. And you can say like, oh well, you know, I won't do that. But
156:18
for us, personal security is like a
156:21
little bit less important than org security. Um, and any user can just be
156:27
like, "Well, I'm going to include being able to text my phone." So,
156:33
uh, yeah, Basis can require biometric
156:36
authentication. It's the site's choice.
156:41
This is like almost my whole point that
156:44
they don't they're not doing that. The they are also allowing you to in many
156:50
actually like high important account situations bypass it entirely by texting
156:55
your phone which is like the worst possible thing. It's it's the the the
156:59
problem is like the the tech can be as cool as the tech wants. If it's not used
157:06
fully and
157:09
uniquely then it just doesn't matter cuz
157:13
it can it can be as secure as you want. If you're still receiving text messages,
157:19
it's all out the window.
157:24
There we go.
157:27
Hey la, can you talk about an event where the
157:32
outcome still boggles you?
157:35
Sure. Actually, I was thinking about this just earlier this week because of
157:40
the whole supposed um blacklisting of
157:43
certain YouTube media by AMD. Um like I
157:48
I basically I was I was kind of asked to give an example of a time when a brand,
157:53
you know, had a seating strategy that didn't really make any sense to me. And
157:58
there's one kind of favorite story that I have and it was a it was a large
158:04
multinational display manufacturer who had like the
158:10
hottest display on the market like this like it was so cool. It's like this like
158:15
giant curved like freaking amazing.
158:18
Nobody else would have had the stones to make something like this. and we reached
158:23
out to them trying to get uh trying to get a sample, trying to get a review
158:27
unit early because we were like very excited about it and wanted to make a
158:30
video and pretty much just like wanted to game on it and talk about how
158:34
freaking huge and immersive and cool it was and they turned us down and we were
158:40
pretty bummed, right? Because obviously we like to make videos about cool tech
158:44
that people want to see and that that gets us views. It gets, you know, you
158:49
guys informed on this cool new product and it gets eyeballs on the product for
158:53
the brand. It's, you know, stacking W's. I love stacking W's. And this seemed
158:56
like an obvious W stacker. And they were like, nah. And I was like, okay, well,
159:02
that's a bummer. Fast forward, I kid you not, I think it
159:07
was one week later, it might have been two weeks later. It was like almost
159:10
immediately in our business leads inbox
159:16
an offer from that same company to do
159:20
the exact video that we pitched editorially. This time from an agency.
159:26
So this is like classic right hand has
159:29
no idea what the left hand is doing.
159:32
an offer to do that same video on that same monitor for I kid you not, it was
159:37
like tens of thousands of dollars for a
159:40
video that I wanted to do for free and was told nah.
159:46
That is an event where the outcome still
159:50
boggles me. Hi, can I do something for you for free? No, but what you can do is
159:55
do it for tens of thousands of dollars. >> Just got to wait a little while, I
159:59
guess. >> Bizarre. I will never understand it. Um,
160:05
Gilpur says, "Did you take the money?" Yeah,
160:10
of course. I would have I wanted to do the video anyway. I just I I did at the
160:16
time. I don't even >> Did you tell them when you got there? >> Uh,
160:19
>> that would have been funny. >> No, no, they they shipped it here. >> So, there there was no one there was no
160:23
one to tell. It was just like >> I don't know how big this screen was. >> Yeah, dude. No, I was Dude, it was
160:28
hilarious. It's It was just so funny. I was like, "This is the stupidest thing
160:31
I've ever seen." And and what's crazy is is it is it's not even um like we've
160:36
seen
160:41
brands are just made up of people
160:46
and people sometimes got up really early
160:50
that day,
160:53
you know? Yeah.
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Uh, do you have something where the outcome still boggles you?
161:07
>> Some Yeah, not really that I want to go into details of some of the contracts
161:12
for services and stuff. Uh,
161:16
>> he is uh like the best negotiator ever. By the way, if you want like a contract
161:20
negotiating like just a bulldog, you know,
161:24
>> some >> contact Luke Leier, Inc.
161:30
>> I don't know. >> And your strategy is so simple. You just say no. Is that right?
161:34
>> For the most part. >> No, that doesn't work for me. >> There was also one where they had two
161:38
different associates trying to do sales
161:41
with me at the same time. >> Snag that commission. And I ended up uh
161:45
doing basically the like walk across the street to the other car dealership
161:48
thing, >> but to the same company with their
161:51
different associates. >> So the one would say like, "Oh, well, I
161:55
can give you this deal." And I'd go to the other guy and be like, "Well, I'm
162:00
getting like this other deal from this
162:03
other sales associate." And then both like work each other down, which was
162:07
just incredible. Uh, there's been some pretty wild stuff, but um, oh man, I
162:13
just had one in mind.
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Crap. I'll try to keep thinking about if it
162:20
comes to me. I maybe I'll maybe I'll chime up
162:24
>> more then. All right. Yeah, hit me down. >> Yeah. >> Hey, LLDD. I recently went from working
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in my given field to working for a pretty big media company in my industry
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and I'm suddenly on camera making
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technical videos. Any tips for a newbie? >> I actually have lots of tips for you.
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>> Nice. >> And um I mean where is it? What's it
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>> Um, this one's pretty good. And then
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Intel A770 GPU extras. Uh both of those
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head on over there. Hey Luke, as a user of Catchy OS, have
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you had a chance to ex Cashy OS, have
163:41
you had a chance to explore the recent GPU patches for low RAM cards or even
163:46
the AMD GPU HDMI 2.0 VRR changes they
163:50
include? Any thoughts? >> No, I was I was spoiled and was given a
163:56
4080 Noctua, so I I don't have a low RAM
163:59
card situation. >> Where'd that come from?
164:03
>> You >> Oh, yeah. Right.
164:07
>> Yeah. What do you think? >> I I forgot it was a Noctua edition. >> Yeah. It's It's hard to You can't really
164:12
tell. >> That's sick. You're welcome. >> Yeah. It's covered in moss. Uh
164:16
>> Right. Right. >> But yeah, it's not super applicable to me. >> I was like, damn, a Noctua edition. No,
164:20
what that could we couldn't that wouldn't have been us. We we would have
164:23
gone with like a like a duel or something, you know, like
164:27
>> No edition. Come on. >> I don't necessarily know why you guys did that. >> No, I'm not I'm not
164:31
>> not made a Noctua fans here, you know. >> At least I'm pretty sure it's a knock to edition.
164:34
>> Yeah, it might be. I think it is. I I'll check. I'll check. Could have just painted it brown.
164:39
>> Uh yeah. So, I it's not super applicable to me. I did do the like relatively big
164:45
recent Cashy update. I haven't had a chance to really like play with it much
164:50
other than just knowing that my system is totally fine. Um,
164:56
yeah. Yeah, seems good. I was I was
165:00
excited to see those updates, but I they're just not like super applicable
165:04
to me right now, which is great. >> I love that this chapter is called Luke's Confidence Lowers.
165:10
Um, oh, hello. Okay, what are we what
165:13
are we looking at here? motherboard. Mhm. Mhm. Oh, GPU time. Here we go. It's
165:19
So, it is. >> Yeah. >> Yep. That's a knock to a fan if I've ever seen one.
165:22
>> And you can't see any of that anymore cuz it's all mossed.
165:28
>> Running my first marathon on Sunday. And the WAN Show has gotten me through all
165:32
my long runs. Wow. Hoping for a 4hour show.
165:36
>> Nice. >> Would you ever run a marathon? And what is your biggest physical accomplishment?
165:42
I >> think my knees would explode. Mine too.
165:45
Um >> I think we're not made for that. >> I I think not. Uh yeah, marathon. That's
165:51
very cool though. That's so cool. And like like massive massive respect.
165:56
>> If you could do the whole thing on soft surfaces somehow.
166:01
>> That'd be pretty sweet. >> Tape carpet to your shoes.
166:05
>> Yeah. Not really.
166:08
>> How long was the foam run 2025? Foam run.
166:12
>> Okay. That was >> Oh, this like spray stuff. >> Yeah, that was 5K. I I did this with
166:17
Ivonne because my son wanted to do it
166:20
and then she agreed to do it with him and then he caught sick and had to bail.
166:27
So, we had two tickets. So, after me
166:30
saying, "No, I have zero interest in this."
166:34
um I ended up being the one who had to do it. Anyway, so how long how long's a
166:37
marathon? How many kilometers marathon? So I did that and it was a standard
166:44
marathon is 42.195
166:47
km. So could I do the foam fest eight
166:50
times? The answer is >> no. Probably never.
166:56
>> I think it's very cool though. >> Greatest physical feat for me um is
167:01
probably just like a cool like shot on the badminton court. I have kind of a
167:05
signature move where if my opponent plays a uh uh plays a forehand side like
167:11
really tight net or drop shot uh I get I
167:15
I just I I I love to dive and so I'll
167:18
get like full body extension in the air and I will sometimes I've actually done
167:22
it before catch it just below the court and manage to pop it back up and I've
167:27
actually net rolled it a couple times back over and every time it's like like
167:31
people go people go nuts. Uh, so it would be like some some shot I made in
167:35
badminton sometime in terms of I had not had a lot of physical accomplishments
167:39
like more of a pale techie guy. I I am
167:44
these days. I All of mine will be very old. I I think one of my one of my
167:49
favorite ones to think back on is um
167:53
playing football. Left defensive end. I
167:56
I got a sack but was able to punch the the ball out and the right defensive end
168:03
uh recovered the fumble and scored a goal. So, we got a we got a defensive
168:07
touchdown which was sick. Uh there's another time where there was a field
168:11
goal being shot and I jumped up and and actually blocked it but didn't realize
168:15
that that doesn't stop the play. So, my dad was screaming at me but I was still
168:19
I was still proud and my arm hurt but that's I still got it. Um,
168:27
>> Conrad from Flowplane says, "I can bench press my wife."
168:30
>> Sick. >> Nice. >> Sick. >> Nice.
168:35
>> White wife lifting is is based. >> Oh, no. Xfin 724 in Floatplane chat
168:41
says, "I was so bad at volleyball in high school gym class that when I
168:44
finally hit one over the net, both teams clapped."
168:49
Mortifying. >> That's pretty epic. Amazing.
168:55
>> Uh yeah, >> my favorite my favorite like memory is
168:58
probably there's a there's a video clip of me hitting some dude in hockey and
169:01
then my GRANDPA GOES, "LET'S GO, LUKER." And it's you can hear him cheering on
169:05
the clip and it's fantastic. >> Cphilus says, "I can bench press two of
169:10
my wives. >> How many do you have?"
169:14
>> Okay, carry on. All right, Dan. >> He did pluralize wives.
169:18
>> What's up, boys? Are there any plans to make regular cargo shorts? Not the
169:22
zip-off pants. Thanks. >> Um, probably, but I don't have a
169:26
timeline on that. Sorry.
169:30
When. Lon, I noticed that you've been talking about
169:34
your RC cars lately. If you were to make content for the dozens of us RC nerds
169:40
out there, what would it be? Reviews, weird, and crazy builds? Track days?
169:44
Definitely not track days. I suck.
169:48
Uh, if I was going to do anything, it would be just like casual hangout
169:52
streams, like put a camera up in the corner of like my my little workshop
169:56
corner at home and while I, you know, fill shock fluid or whatever it is,
170:01
>> like an Adam the Savage kind of thing. >> Um, >> just hang out with me in my shop.
170:04
>> Yeah, just like throw the chat up and just kind of chill.
170:09
>> Howdy, Mumu, Slick, and Dan de Man out
170:12
of the recent AMD. >> Mumu.
170:15
>> Oh, my old email address. Mumu the cow. Oh, right. Okay. The one you used
170:19
professionally. >> That's a deep cut. >> There you go. I'm using it right.
170:22
>> He's learning the slang. >> Very pog.
170:26
>> How do you do, fellow kids? >> Out of the recent AMD tech upgrades,
170:30
have there been any purchases that someone made that surprised you?
170:34
>> Yes. >> Something you didn't expect that they would be interested in?
170:38
>> All of the like unnecessarily expensive
170:41
collectible stuff just boggles my mind. And like
170:46
I know that there is like a subset of
170:51
the viewers that feel like I'm being
170:55
like I'm putting on a performance or I'm being disingenuous when I like lose my
171:00
mind over somebody spending like, you know, $500 on a Lego minifigure or
171:05
something like that. I promise you
171:09
>> that it is not performative in the slightest. If there was no camera
171:13
pointed at me, I would do the exact same thing. I promise you that no matter how
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much money I had, no matter how many jets I could buy, I would never spend
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$500 on a Lego minifigure. >> Ever.
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>> You've spent some money on some collectible Xbox controllers. At least
171:32
one. Two. At least. >> This is true. So, okay. Okay. You know
171:37
what? I have uh the one no the the one
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expensive one that I have is that one that the developers got.
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>> You also have a gold one. It's only kind of a technicality, but
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>> that one's that one. >> So the one I'm really talking about is the developer one.
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>> Yeah, the developer one. Um,
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it I I use it though, >> which I which I know is like crazy for
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something that's like a one of like >> very few, but I like have spent hours
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gaming on it. >> That's sweet. >> So to me there and and look, everyone
172:10
draws their own line, right? Like slightly before their own behavior.
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That's that's human nature, baby.
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But to me, the fact that I game on it
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means that to me, it's a controller.
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>> It's not a shelf piece. >> Ah, okay.
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>> There are exceptions. I purchased a copy
172:32
of Final Fantasy 6 for Super Nintendo
172:36
that I never intended to put into a slot. But again, for me, that was more
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about restoring >> Yeah. a thing that I owned that I lost
172:45
at a time in my life when I lost a lot of things moving between my families.
172:49
Um, I also purchased a copy of Final
172:53
Fantasy Tactics that I never intended to put into a PlayStation 1, but that one
172:58
was more about I have played this game
173:01
cover to cover three times and I have never purchased
173:06
it. Not good. So, I own a copy of the
173:10
original and I paid for Chronicles. I
173:14
consider my sins washed clean at that point. So, like
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>> like I I mean I definitely I definitely
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buy stuff that's unnecessary sometimes. Okay. Like here here's a perfect
173:24
example. Uh Evan and Caitlyn
173:27
Evan and Caitlyn make this really cool knife. Uh or like they partnered with a
173:32
local where where is it? Uh, where do you find
173:37
their where do you find their Oh, here here. shop evanaitlyn.com. They have
173:41
this they have this really cool box cutter. This thing is so cool. It's also
173:45
$120 Canadian for a box cutter, which is
173:48
like madness, but it's replaceable. You
173:52
can put a new utility blade in it whenever you want. And it is like one of
173:56
the most satisfying fidgets that I have ever encountered in my life. Oh,
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actually, I have it. Um,
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but again, I use it. So, I don't know if
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you can if you can think of something that's like a dumb thing that like I
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don't even use, then I'm open to it. >> I guess I have my my katana. People
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always comment on that on my mantle. That was impulsive. I was young.
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>> We've used it. >> Oh, and we have used it actually. That's true.
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>> And I and I specifically wanted one that was an actual sword that was not purely
174:27
decorative. I think it's 2/3 tang. So, like you could like you could do some
174:31
stuff with it if you really wanted to. And it's sharp. >> Yeah.
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>> Here it is. This thing is This thing is like so cool.
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It's just It's Oh, dude. It's so satisfying. Hey. Oh, speaking of cool
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knives, I didn't pay for this one because he's a bro. >> Yeah. You got to give him the sound. You
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have to give him the sound, >> dude. I got the Hacksmith blade. I ran
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into him at Creator Summit. He's he's my Canadian bro. He brought one for me. Um,
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so it's like a it's a multi-function knife. If you guys somehow managed to
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not see the Kickstarter for this thing. Uh, it has a built-in uh it has like
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little built-in uh screwdriver bit storage here. So, you slide these out
175:20
and then they just uh go into the tip.
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They're magnetic. You can also put it in this way if there's like a tight space
175:26
you're trying to reach into and you want to do that. Uh there's tweezers built
175:30
into them. Um
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there's a level. There you go. There's a little uh there's a little uh ruler on
175:39
it. Uh the clip is adjustable so you can put it on either side, whichever kind of
175:43
works better for you. And oh man, what else is Oh yeah, bottle opener. It has
175:48
whatever this like pokey spiky thing is. I actually don't don't remember what
175:51
that one does. Sorry. Um, uh, maybe. I
175:54
don't know. So, probably does something. I mean, knowing knowing James, it definitely does something. But this
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Okay, hold on. I'm just gonna just just check this out. It has these like Okay,
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hold on.
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Just >> doesn't quite capture it. >> Yeah, it doesn't quite capture it, but
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it's >> way better in person.
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>> Yeah, it will.
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It is so flipping satisfying, man. And I
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don't think that I have ever encountered a folding knife that check it. Check it
176:42
out. Like, feel the feel the um feel how little slop, how little play there is in
176:47
the blade. I don't think I've ever encountered a
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folding knife that feels as much like a
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fixed knife. >> I I mean I have, but it's really good.
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>> I think I might have loosened it a little already.
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I've just dude, ever since he hand it to me, I've just been like I was I was on
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set today and I forgot like how sharp
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this thing is and I was just like playing and there was some uh there was
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some you know that like closed cell like like really squishy like dense foam.
177:20
>> Sure. >> I I just was like, you know, I I'll like stab it into it.
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I went probably about this deep on the blade
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through. So like about probably this far, right? cuz it was at like a corner
177:35
and it just passed right through it.
177:38
Even though the blade is so uh Whoops. Uh even though the blade is so Oh my
177:43
gosh. What are you doing? There we go. I'm doing something. Even though it's so thick, right? It's so sharp out of the
177:50
box that it just was like and I'm like oo cuz I was like flipping
177:55
it to myself like make the sound effect
177:58
right then. >> That was amazing. >> Solid. So, I'm pretty sure I heard Dan
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do it, too. >> Anyway, um, did he give you the torque
178:06
flag? Just tighten up. Yes, Roman, he did give me the torque flag. It comes
178:09
with a little thing to, uh, properly torque this screw to make sure that you
178:13
get exactly the right feel on it.
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So, yeah, super super impressed. Um,
178:21
way to go, James. Now you just got to manufacture them all. In case you're
178:24
wondering why I have one before all the customers have gotten one, uh, this one
178:29
had some kind of issue with it that was cosmetic and didn't matter and it's like
178:34
not worth it to disassemble it and fix it and reassemble it compared to just
178:39
making another one. So, he had a few of those at Creator Summit. So, mine's not
178:43
a perfect one. >> I finally realized why I didn't have the
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Kickstarter for it. >> Did you miss it classically? No, I I was
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going to buy it for for
178:54
>> myself, my brother, and my dad as like a Christmas gift, and then I logged into
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Kickstarter and got flashbacks of the coal bar and was like, I'll just wait
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until they're like ready to ship, purchasable.
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>> Got it. >> And then I'll just get them then. >> Yeah. Yeah. You might have ended up cursing him if you had bought one for
179:10
your dad for Christmas. We know what happened the last time. probably better
179:13
for everyone that I just did it cuz I was trying to remember like I definitely
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wanted to get one. Um
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and I Yeah, I'm fairly certain that's what happened.
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But yeah, they're they're pretty wicked cool.
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Yeah, got to use this Linus coin somehow. Thank you for fueling my tech
179:33
skills from virus downloading noob to self-hosting noob.
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>> Nice. >> What was the first application that you self-hosted? How long ago was it?
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Oh. Uh,
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>> games or applications? Counterstrike. >> Mumble.
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>> Counterstrike. Yeah, Counter-Strike.
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>> Yeah, Mumble's Mumble's kind of goated. >> I don't think
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would that count. I set up uh slightly slightly later I
180:06
set up an FTP server that I could access from offsite just because it was more
180:09
convenient than um carrying around files. I'd say those are those are my
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two like earliest ones. >> I hosted a lot of game stuff before I did FTP server, but I did do that at
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some point.
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>> Hi, LLD. Question for Luke. Do you think that open source software can find a way
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to self-fund without relying on exclusive donations?
180:30
>> Correction. Uh, I did a bunch of
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research, but I think no, my friend actually ended up hosting the Mumble.
180:36
So, the an FTP server for myself was my first one. I don't want to leave that
180:40
out there if it's not quite right. Sorry. Carry on.
180:43
>> Question was, do you think open source software can self-fund without
180:46
exclusively relying on donations? >> Yeah, totally. Corporate sponsors and
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corporate service. >> This was a question for me. Oh,
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>> although that's exactly what I was saying. So, so you're fine. Uh,
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>> well, you were the one who asked it, so I just naturally answered it. I was
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echoing. I just had to say it again. Yeah. No, it's fine. I was just razing you. Uh yeah, basically that though I
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think the main way to do it is through support effectively. Um
181:12
technically Mozilla, yeah, kind of that's a bit of a one-off where you're
181:16
going to get crazy amounts of money from Google, but um
181:20
yeah, usually the like the standard path
181:24
is is uh
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>> is is support. So you release it out there. Hopefully it's useful for someone
181:32
and hopefully those people want uh either like a custom fork or just uh
181:38
more general uh support contract uh free
181:41
tier paid tier stuff. Yeah. Um generally
181:45
I think the normal play is to make that more focused to enterprise customers.
181:50
Um, there are
181:54
ones that are just everybody basically, but but normally I I see that being
181:59
enterprise customers. >> I I told Hacksmith Luke asked if he can
182:02
have one too. Got any more of the scrapped ones? He says, "Haha, I'll
182:05
see." Nice. >> That's pretty non-committal. >> I mean, if not, I'm buying them. So,
182:09
doesn't really matter. Um, EJC said,
182:12
"Speaking of that Mozilla thing, are you using something different now?" Um,
182:19
I'm trying to think across all devices. I was using Zen for a bit which is like
182:23
a Mozilla fork and I was enjoying it. I'm not currently using it right now
182:27
because I think I tried to like Pac-Man install it and it didn't immediately
182:31
work so I just kept using Firefox. I I didn't like look into it. But uh I might
182:37
eventually try to get it back on my desktop again. I liked Zen. the Zen had
182:41
like all your tabs are vertical and on
182:45
the left side instead of across the top. And I liked that because I generally use
182:50
Chrome for work or a Chromium browser
182:54
for work. Um, and Firefox for personal.
182:57
And one of the reasons why I do that is just keep separation. And using Zen with
183:02
the vertical tabs made it like super
183:06
obvious which browser I was in. because sometimes
183:10
uh when they're too similar and my current setup for Firefox and my current
183:14
setup for Chromium on my desktop, I get caught sometimes cuz they're kind of too
183:18
similar and I'll load a YouTube video in my like work browser
183:22
>> and then oh >> terrible >> time to watch 10 million years of ads.
183:27
So then I have to bring it over to my personal one. Um and that's like pretty
183:31
annoying. But yeah, Luke Meta, Mint,
183:34
Cinnamon, and Zen. I mean,
183:38
yeah, man. >> Uh, Noki asks, "Hey, did you not do the Floatplane announcements?" Uh, we
183:42
didn't, but we also kind of accidentally did cuz apparently the one I was supposed to highlight this week was
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Lionus interviews the LTT head of writing about LMG content. U, so the
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only thing I have to change is that he asked me to show the timestamps, uh,
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showing what we what we talked through. So, um, techjet, firet truck, uh, what
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we use the jet for, tech house, uh, first upgrade for the tech house, when
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we're ready to sell, investing in support, uh, Riley, um, elephants in the
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room, family vlog, departures of notable talent, uh, talking through nostalgia
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isn't a viable strategy, uh, Mr. Carney's line from uh from his speech
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recently becoming more agile. Uh how do we avoid being full corporate future of
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LMG? What about the other channels? And how do we 10x our media side? How are we
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10xing CW? So that's the uh that's the
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topics. And Sammy asked if you guys uh leave a comment on that video if you
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want to give a suggestion for other leaders at the company that you would
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like to see. We've already done Taran um
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James obviously and Luke to an extent.
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Um, which he might not remember. Sammy predicted that. Oh, yeah. That's that's
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the one. >> Well, >> so Sammy says, "Luke,
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>> it's not really the same." >> Luke will probably go, "What video?" And
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then you're like, "Bam." And he'll be like, "Oh." And then he'll be like, "I
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was so out of it during this shoot." >> I Okay. The The reason why I reacted
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that way is cuz you interviewed James on this one. You didn't interview Nick,
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Lucas, and >> No, someone did. Uh, watch the exclusives either on YouTube members or
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at a lower price at LMG.gg/fp1.
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>> By the way, there's a bunch of people trying to tell me how to install Zen. That wasn't my point.
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>> I can I can figure it out. I actually for the Linux, man.
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>> I have super >> You think he needs to install Zen?
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>> Yeah, >> he dodged the hard R incident.
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>> He has full Zen.
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>> That's my pre-installed Zen. No, I I've been actually very specific. I I'm okay
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with friends giving me input or advice.
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Um, but I'm I've been hard ignoring any
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comments I see because that seems unfair
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in regards to the Linux challenge. >> So, like I've got a buddy that I've
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known since I was like 15
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who is like a Linux head and will talk to me about Linux stuff sometimes. I'm
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like, "Okay, name a secret. Can I guess? >> I don't think you know this person.
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>> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Um, you can guess, but I don't
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think you do. >> Okay. >> Um, so like I I'll talk to them about
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it, but like I I'm not going to go out of my way to seek unfair potential input
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and just like let me figure it out, dude. >> Yeah,
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>> it's part of the fun. >> Yep.
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>> Hey, LLD, you guys have talked about how you liked visiting Taiwan. I will be
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visiting later this year. Is there a place you visited several times or would
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like to visit because it's so great? I just play badminton.
186:48
So, I just I work all day and then I
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shuttle [ __ ] all night and then I sleep.
186:54
>> He sure does. >> Sometimes I go out for late night noodles. I like spicy noodles.
187:00
>> Yeah. Uh, >> sometimes I call Luke and I'm like,
187:04
"Hey, >> it's really late, but I need spicy
187:07
noodles." Luke's like,
187:10
"Yeah, I'm down." >> Almost every time. Not technically all,
187:14
but almost every time. Uh, there's a fun restaurant, if I'm assuming you're
187:19
talking mostly in Taipei. There's a fun restaurant called Pay My Tuition. I went
187:23
there because I thought their name was funny and then I actually really liked their food and their vibe was really
187:27
awesome. Uh, the highest rated Indian food restaurant I've ever seen in the
187:31
entire world is in Taipei. It has 8,248
187:36
reviews and is 5.0 stars on Google Maps. >> Wow.
187:39
>> Which is wild. Uh, Wendell showed me this place. I'm going to butcher the
187:43
pronunciation. Oi, Oay Punjabi Ethnic
187:47
Indian Restaurant. >> Mhm. >> Uh, good food.
187:50
>> Nice. >> Um, 2J Cafe is like one of the vibiest
187:55
places I've ever been in my life. Um, Dawn Park is a cool place to go.
188:01
Most of my things that I have flagged in Taipei are restaurants because I'm
188:04
usually trying to go there with people. Um, but the coolest individual thing
188:09
I've done in Taiwan, if you want to somehow get yourself out there, um, I
188:13
don't know how to say this, so I don't know how to help you find it.
188:16
>> Nice. Solid, >> but it's just called 11. It's at 605
188:20
Taiwan Chi County, Alishan Township.
188:24
Good luck. Have fun. It's uh you stay up there for 24 hours
188:29
and uh you live on a native reservation
188:32
in the mountains and you pick tea and
188:36
you chop down bamboo and use a section of the bamboo to make rice and then you
188:40
incorporate the rice into making mochi and your dinner and all these other
188:44
kinds of things and it's fun. It's good.
188:49
Hey. Hey. How has the issues at the tech
188:52
house been going? Any big projects coming soon? Apparently, we're going on
188:56
Tuesday with an excavator and we're just going to go ham on the backyard because
189:01
there's like a stop work thing while we apply for some permit stuff, but it
189:06
doesn't apply to the outside. >> Okay. >> So, we're just uh Jordan's organizing it
189:10
and there's a signup sheet with like what tools you have and can bring.
189:15
>> He seems reasonable enough. I'm sure he called before he's digging.
189:18
>> Uh yes, yes, yes. BC1 call was informed.
189:21
So, we're So, we're just going for it, apparently. Uh, the thumbnail will
189:25
involve me in an excavator. I'll see you there.
189:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck, everyone.
189:35
How do you suggest I deal with a vendor whose entire software seems vibe coded
189:40
and doesn't do good QA work? It's hard being between admin, who wrote the
189:45
contract without teeth, and supporting poor software.
189:49
>> I think you're boned. Yeah, get out of there. Uh, >> they can't. Admin signed up for it, so
189:56
they're just stuck with it. >> We've never experienced that.
190:00
>> Really? Why? What did I What did I sign up for? >> This wasn't you.
190:04
>> What did Oh. Oh, okay.
190:09
>> I I seek people's input on decisions when I know that I'm over my head,
190:15
>> especially when signing a contract. I don't sign contracts lightly.
190:19
>> Yeah. Um, >> I've learned
190:23
I think >> I don't know. Seek see Oh, man. Seek it
190:27
out if you can. Um, there is very often
190:30
early termination >> stuff, but it might be better to deal
190:35
with an early termination fee than to deal with something that's just completely unusable. Um,
190:43
yeah. >> Cool. get in contact with someone who might be able to make some change and
190:47
and raise some stink. Flag all the ways that they've just been really really
190:51
terrible basically and be like, "Yeah, we can't work with you guys. Let us out
190:55
and see what happens." Hey, DLL, I loved the recent video about
191:01
comparing the MacBook Neo with other Windows laptops. But is that video
191:05
intended to be the full review of the Neo?
191:08
>> No. Um, the Neo launched while I was away for a fairly extended period of
191:13
time. So, they did a ShortCircuit while I was gone. And then the question was, okay, well, like what kind of MacBook
191:18
Neo content can we do that would be additive. And so, I died it for actually
191:22
a few weeks now, now that I think about it, it's been out for a while. Um, and
191:26
basically from when I got back to like a couple days ago, I've been dailying the
191:30
Neo. I really like it overall. I definitely ran into some some weird
191:34
issues, but overall really liked it. And
191:37
um one of the ideas was MacBook Neo
191:41
30-day challenge. But honestly, it wasn't even enough of like a challenge
191:44
for me to have that much to say. And so it ended up getting rolled into
191:49
one of the other ideas we had, which is comparing the Neo to other similarly
191:53
priced Windows machines. And um so what
191:56
I ended up doing was just using some of the insight that I gained dailying the
192:00
Neo to make a better comparison video
192:03
that was just more informed by my own personal experiences. So, I think I
192:07
don't know if you're going to get a full review of the Neo on Linus Tech Tips.
192:10
Uh, I think that was probably it. In terms of additional context that I
192:14
would, you know, add at this time. Not much. Uh, if you're really reliant on,
192:19
you know, a high-speed external dock, I would say the Neo can be a bit of a
192:22
downer, but other than that, I just really liked it. I if I was buying one
192:27
again, I'd spring for the Touch ID model just cuz like going back to Windows
192:32
Hello and going back to a MacBook with Touch ID is just plain better
192:38
and you also get more storage. But really, I when I think it's going to be
192:42
killer is like Neo2. I want the 12 gigs of RAM that supposedly will be supported
192:47
with like an A19 Pro and uh just a
192:50
little bit more speed. It's going to be like
192:53
Neo2 is going to be if Apple can keep the price the sameish, it's just going
192:57
to slay. It's just going to be no competition left to fight.
193:02
>> Neo is eating Valve's lunch right now. Gaming is growing. I'm so confused by
193:07
that. >> No, it's not.
193:11
>> What? What? What? >> Don't worry about it. That's not a
193:14
thing. >> What? What? >> No.
193:18
>> What? >> No. >> Huh? >> No. What?
193:21
>> No. >> All right, Dan. What's next? >> What?
193:24
>> I'm going to need a couple couple weeks to get over that. Um, will we ever see
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the return of techtrivia answered in the form of a question? Missed that show.
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Also, why does LTLS.com have more GPU data on it? For example,
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there's a review of the 9060 but no data
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or why doesn't they're asking. Uh, that's something they're working on.
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They're working on getting all the GPUs
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on the site, but it, you know, just takes time. Um, and especially when
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there's no video demand for that data, then it has to fit in with the articles
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and videos and short circuits and everything that they're supporting behind the scenes. As for Tech Trivia
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answered in the form of a question, never. Uh, I felt so bad for everyone
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who participated in that, all the creators. The questions were so hard
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because I was intended to be a participant. I never got to review them.
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And I was just basically, if you go back
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and watch it through this lens, you can see me desperately
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trying to make it not seem like horrible
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that nobody knows the answer to anything. And like because the questions
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were so hard and I didn't actually know that normally
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um like on Jeopardy you're supposed to like they're primed on what the
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questions will be about. It's not random. >> Oh, they know like the topics.
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>> Yeah. So they can like study ahead of time and stuff. >> Interesting.
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>> Cuz like Yeah. Otherwise, why would anyone know the exact year of that stupid thing? Of course, that makes
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sense now in retrospect, but I didn't know that when we were setting up this
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thing. And apparently neither did any of our >> coordinators for this project. So like
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>> I mean there's some people that we worked with on that that I don't think
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ever worked with us again. >> And like I was too embarrassed to ask
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even people that are like I would say you know relatively like friends. Um
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like I just didn't even ask them for a long time because it was just like kind
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of embarrassing across the board. Um
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yeah it was that was that did not go well.
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the the second half of the Oh. >> Oh, sorry.
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>> Uh, it was about uh GPUs on the Labs
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website. >> Um,
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sure. I mean, I'm just going to talk generally about GPUs on the lab's
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website, so it's probably okay. Um, the lab's website is is interesting. Uh,
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people will read the articles. Lucas will post them on Reddit and then people
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will see them there and then come read the articles and that's all that's all
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cool and stuff. Um, nobody looks at the the product pages.
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Um, the the product pages get we've we've tried a bunch of different things
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to make them interesting, but realistically I think just like print
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reviews these days like hey I wonder if
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there's a reason why all the written review sites are dying. Uh, who knows?
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Uh, I think we we, you know, might have found out. So, we're we're figuring out
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what we actually want to do with this stuff. The articles have been doing
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well, like I said. Um, and we we think
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there's a future in tools, like the the whole versus mode thing, um, where you
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can like look at two different products uh, side by side and and see the
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comparison. Um, this is a a particularly cool part of
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it. Um, being able to I guess we don't
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have the size data for one of them, but uh being able to look at them side by
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side. Um, GPUs in particular is
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something that we weren't uploading for a while uh for long boring reasons. Um,
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and as some people have noticed, we have started again uh putting some GPUs up
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there, but like uh keeping the product
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reviews populated on the site is not a
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highlevel high priority goal for the lab
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because I think just in 2026
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that's not uh a like lowhanging fruit or
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a particularly valuable fruit for pretty much anyone. We are seeing again
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traction with the articles. So, we've been pursuing that more. Um, that's
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that's been kind of fun and and and interesting for us, more fun and
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interesting than just farting out more um like just stream of consciousness
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product reviews. Um, and also you guys
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are resonating with it more as well. So, we're kind of reacting to
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honestly what what you guys want. We do think some of this is because of search
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engine stuff with AI, but yeah, >> apparently no, you do not get
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information of any sort ahead of time on Jeopardy. So, I was misinformed.
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>> Oh, all right.
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>> Stealing your thunder. >> There's some people saying like, is this
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a uh I lost it, but somebody somebody
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basically mentioned, is it Yeah. Is it a discovery problem? Um,
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>> well, we happened to start publishing written articles right around the same
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time that written started getting killed by AI.
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>> Yeah. Uh, they also said wire cutters profitable. Yeah. Wire cutters. Like
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when I go to their front page, um, we
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took hundreds of walks to find five dog leashes we love.
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>> Get that affiliate revenue from that mainstream content.
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>> Yeah, that's it's not it's not power supplies. Um, and also
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this isn't even a profit play. The lab's website doesn't have any ads on it. I
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don't know. I don't know if like so many of you run ad blocker that you never realized, but but like there there is
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this is non ad blocker. There's no ads on the lab site anywhere. It's no part
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of this is a is a profit play. We we made a there's there's information out
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there and through usage statistics, we
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kind of figured out that people uh don't really want to read text reviews in
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2026. So that's okay. Uh we also figured
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out that people are fairly interested in
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like the the articles we've been writing. So great. Uh it's just fairly
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natural like reacting to what people
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want. That's it. Cool.
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To Lionus, also an adult with braces.
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Nice. I'm happy with how straight my teeth are progressing, but I'm bummed
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about the things I no longer eat for fear of breaking a bracket. Are there
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foods you now avoid? Nope. I was always
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a completely non-compliant client. I
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would eat popcorn. I' I've chewed chewing gum with these because I'm
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crazy. Uh I eat apples. I um for me the
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only real obstacle is like pain because
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these brackets sit super proud. These stupid ceramic braces that I hate. Um
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but in terms of like going easy, man, I'll eat corn on the cob. It just it's
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it's like creamed corn at that point cuz you're just you're kind of mashing it
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from both sides, you know?
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Double chew. Hey LLD, I am the head of engineering at
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a drone show company that did a 1000 drone show for the YouTube creator
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conference last week. Are you >> heard you were there and wanted to know
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your thoughts here? Why have my thoughts when you can have my video that I
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recorded of it? Um here. Where is it?
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I think I think this will do. Oh yeah.
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Here we go, bud. Here. I'll send this over to you. Okay. Done. >> Uh sure. Cool. In the meantime, let's do
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another one while we wait for file downloads and such.
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Hi, Lionus and Luke. What's your favorite board game to play on a game
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night? You should check out the Pac-Man board game corridor. Such a great such a
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great time. Anyway, thanks for the free shipping. >> Fun.
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>> And it's not close. >> Sorry, board game.
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>> Yep. >> They have a board game. >> Yeah. >> Oh, cool. >> It's so good, actually.
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8.7 on board game geek which is unbiased
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take because he you know would normally hate anything slay the spire.
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>> Oh it definitely definitely uh one one
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to four players. It's co-op. It's really good. Um it it gets each player
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involved. Um that's cool. >> I'm not surprised it's it's pretty
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highly rated. Um, everyone that I know
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that has played it, including people that have never played the video game,
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including people that don't even like video games, every single person has
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liked it. >> That's cool.
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>> Uh, I play whatever my kids like. They've been really into Munchkin lately. Um, it's pretty basic, you know,
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as far as like being into cool board
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games go, but uh, yeah, they they enjoy the heck out of it. Um, uh, we like, uh,
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we like Clank as a family as well. That one's fun. Um,
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cards. The thing that, uh, that I get the most
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requests for from my kids is Let's Play Hearts. Um, I got them into it a little
202:36
while ago, and it's it's such a good game. It's, uh, just that the things can
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get heated sometimes around the Queen of Spades, though. People who play will
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know.
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ready for that video if you guys are. >> Yeah, you can throw up the video. >> Let's see. What do I do? I think it's go
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now. >> Recorded horizontally because I'm not an animal
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and I don't have audio on. >> That's fine. That's good. >> What is this?
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>> Uh, it's a drone show.
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You may want to Oh, is there a way to >> play it back faster?
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>> I can I can take it through. >> Oh, okay. Uh, so yeah, this was cool.
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I was amazed at how stable they were.
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Look how flipping stable these are.
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>> Yeah, >> pretty cool. So, yeah, they did uh they
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did a drone show and it basically probably the coolest one was the globe,
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but I don't think I caught that one. Here they are reconfiguring. They did a
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nanat. This one's pretty cool. Maybe let it play for a second.
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>> Yeah, it it just looks really bad. >> Yeah, when you don't let it play.
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh it I I had never seen one
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before. This was my first time. Uh it was it was cooler than I expected
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and I really liked the way that they kind of
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had you watch the transitions between the different things, but you would have
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like you'd have to be clairvoyant to, you know, realize exactly what they were
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going to be going for on the next one. Yeah, it was uh it was very cool. They
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had a they had a couple different things. They had someone um on one of
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those like like with a a jet thing on
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their hands and then one on their back like in a like a jet suit. So he kind of
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flew around a little bit and then they had sky divers that um
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dropped out of a plane. They had like sparklers behind them as they like came
204:29
down through the sky and then they deployed their parachutes and then they like ripped like right over our heads
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and landed in the field there. So it was Yeah, it was a pretty it was a pretty cool show.
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>> Wow. Hey Elinus, time to finally use my gift
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cards. They also brought out Oprah. What? >> To do a talk. Yeah. I mean, she's the OG
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content creator. Think about it.
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She started just in like local news and
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made her built her built her empire into her own show, her own network, and she
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recently joined YouTube. So, it's pretty on topic. >> So, we have Oprah to blame for shorts.
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>> I would say I would say >> that domino meme. I would say not so
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much. >> Sounds like it to me. >> Oh, Oprah goes on TV. Dominoes fall
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down. Now we are talking about disabling shorts with a timer.
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>> Are you looking up Oprah's channel? Yes, >> I did. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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>> Did you mog Oprah? You have more subscribers than Oprah.
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>> Well, yeah, for now. >> Plus ratio.
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>> Her view counts are all over the place.
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>> Wow. Oh, yeah. You got 1 million. >> 5,000. 1 million 2.8,000
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>> 2.3 million.
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>> Yeah. Like all over the place. I' I don't think I've ever seen a channel
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with a spread like that. And not like to be clear, I've seen channels that have
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one video with 5 million views and like a bunch with 500 views, like where they
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had like one viral hit. But the fact that she goes between like functionally
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zero views and millions of views from
206:04
one upload to the next. >> I was thinking like, okay, did this did
206:08
go gentle or whatever did they like buy a bunch of views on that? But then this
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one >> Yep. >> 2.5 for there. >> Yep. It's just all over the place, man.
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>> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. This is This doesn't
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matter, but Oh, it's just a little bit weird that it's always the third video
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in >> Oh,
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okay. Okay. Not always. >> Oh, no. Once it broke off.
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>> Yep. Okay. >> But it has like the same cadence for
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when it'll just pop off. >> Just pops once in a while.
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>> But it's like roughly every four videos they go from
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single digit thousands. It's clips.
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Oh, is it interesting?
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So, the mainline. Yeah, the main It's the long videos. Okay. So,
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yeah, 46 minutes and it gets 2.3 million views and then these little cuts of that
207:08
video get only a few views. >> So, this is LMG clips, but Oprah
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>> basically. God, >> it's just not super obvious without
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looking at the length or the view count which one is the primary video. So, this
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one's an hour, 2.5 million views. >> Do you think it's set up as a podcast
207:25
and they're not actually listening to YouTube? Maybe
207:29
>> they're listening to the podcast. >> Maybe. >> I don't know cuz our W show playlist on
207:33
the LT channel is a podcast, >> but there's a separate podcast tab.
207:37
Would that have podcasts in So, go to the Oprah podcast, 74 episodes, and
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those should be the same videos because
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a podcast is just a type of playlist.
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>> Yeah, they totally are. >> So, this is going out to RSS feeds.
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>> So, heard podcast is >> Her podcast is very popular. Got it.
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>> That makes sense.
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>> Oh, okay. >> Sorry to hear that, Wy Giraffe.
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They have to go be social instead of hanging and watching my >> disgusting. Sorry. Sorry. Just gonna
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>> Sorry for your loss. >> Don't come back. Okay. Hey, L. It's time
208:15
to finally use my gift cards. Is there something that you know your team could
208:19
improve, but it's never going to be profitable or marketable for it being
208:23
just too niche or too specialized?
208:28
>> Um, I don't know. Our posture.
208:32
I think I think they meant like products
208:36
>> like Oh, oh, like the CW team.
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>> Yeah. >> Uh oh. >> So, so a chair then.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. Sandals.
208:46
>> I think that we could improve the desk pads and um and no one would care. You
208:54
can ever so slightly because it stretches in one direction but not the
208:58
other direction. you can ever so slightly detect if you like kind of
209:01
press hard and move a thing that it's like a little bit oval tracking, like a
209:05
little bit. Um, and literally after all
209:08
these years of us selling hundreds of thousands of desk pads, no one's ever
209:11
noticed or cared. Um, so yeah, we could
209:15
do it and no one will care. So we we had we had talked about in the early days,
209:19
>> you're going to get complaints now. >> Yeah, whatever. Get >> I knew the whole time I knew something
209:23
was off. Uh, DOUG. YEP. YEP. YEP.
209:28
IN the early days of Kyle being here, we had talked about doing like a pro cloth
209:31
desk pad that uh was uh either the same
209:35
stretch in both axis or no stretch and just kind of never got to it.
209:42
>> Lus, how is the team liking the the new
209:45
Ubiquiti EV chargers? I just got a Toyota BZ and am in the market for
209:51
getting level two chargers. I mean the I think the team likes any charger they
209:55
get to use at the office because they don't pay for it.
209:59
They seem fine so far.
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Is there any new screen tech to replace
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OLED? If not, what options exist for
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iPhone 11 users? Me sensitive to PWM
210:14
flicker who prefer Apple's ecosystem. iPhone 17 is a no-go. OLED causes
210:19
headaches/nausea. Wow, that's uh that's rough, dude,
210:23
because on mobile everything's going OLED. >> I have heard of this.
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>> Um
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yikes. Like micro LED. I know Apple was putting a bunch of investment into that
210:35
supposedly maybe for the Apple Watch at some point. >> Have you seen these? Um,
210:44
I have seen things that do that not from
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that company like like a like a like a
210:51
no, you know. >> Yeah, >> I have seen displays
210:56
>> super modern being shown just to developers right now. I wasn't sure if
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you'd seen or heard of it. >> Um, yeah, it's definitely a thing from
211:04
other brands. I haven't seen theirs though. >> Okay. Okay. Um,
211:09
>> the reason why I asked you in that way was I didn't know if it was public or not.
211:12
>> Yeah, I'm not sure. >> Yeah. So, >> man, and even microledd, like I wonder
211:16
if you'd have the same kind of PWM control flicker. I I feel for you, man.
211:22
>> I I'm sorry. I wish I had an answer for you.
211:25
The last one I have today, Edge DLL, the
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hoodies I got the past few years have really come in handy during my first
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winter here in northern Sweden. I think it's pronounced hey
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>> nice. >> Any new designs coming with the same
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hoodie as the circuit tree one? I love that.
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>> Oh, >> yeah. The funny one that was a tree that was a circuit. The circuit tree. Um
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>> I thought they just didn't know how to spell it and they meant the framework one.
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>> No. Yeah, not that one. >> But but I got you. >> Just because they're foreign.
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>> Yeah. So cancelled
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>> just because they spelled hey wrong. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Isn't this one just our blank? >> I think so. Pretty sure.
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>> Yeah. I'm I'm pretty sure that um
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any colored blank hoodie should be this
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one. It's funny that that's the one you like
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so much because I' I'd say it's one of the less unique ones that we have. Uh
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oh. Is our site down?
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>> Oh, okay. >> We've been having some minor Wi-Fi issues. >> Oh, brilliant. Okay, Tops.
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So, man, I'm afraid to say something wrong.
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Message support just in case, but I'm pretty sure this is literally it. This
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is the circuitry hoodie but without the circuitry.
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Um, so it's just our our blank hoodie for 60 CAD. And I believe the same one
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should be obtainable. Oh yeah, I guess we just never did any other prints on
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it. So yeah, pick up the blank hoodie.
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Neat. Good chat. >> That's all I got. >> That's all you got? Well, that means
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that's all I got. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad
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